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So far, you've made a couple of incorrect edits...

  • (1.) The USP in Collateral is a .45. It has been confirmed by various sources, not the least of whom is armorer Steve Karnes, who is an administrator on this very site. 9x19mm pistols may be preferred in Hollywood, but that was not the case here.
  • (2.) The Desert Eagles in The Matrix are indeed the .50 AE version. This has been confirmed by John Bowring, who was the movie's armorer, and it can be confirmed by looking at the bore in the screencaps provided. The .357 bore is MUCH smaller than the .50 bore.

-MT2008

I may be wrong, but it looks to me as though the USP in Collateral actually does have the magazine "shoe". Look at this screencap (make sure you click on it twice to blow it up to its maximum size):
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But even so, isn't the mag shoe not such a good way to tell the USP-45 from the 9mm or .40 S&W variants? I've seen plenty of pictures of USP-45s (on HKPRO, no less) with magazines inserted that had no shoe. I have no idea, because I've only handled/fired the basic 9mm Variant 1 USP myself recently.
As far as the use of 9mm guns in Hollywood goes, Steve has told us that this was the trend up until about the 1990s, because the older gunsmiths in the business found 9mm pistols easiest and most reliable to convert to blank-fire. Since then, younger armorers have started to solve the issues that other calibers had when "blanked". Nowadays, there are plenty of blank-converted pistols in .45 ACP, .40 S&W, and other such calibers being used in the industry. However, because the prop houses and armories acquired so many of the 9mm Berettas, Glocks, 1911 clones, etc. over the years, they still show up pretty frequently in our favorite movies and TV shows. -MT2008 13:44, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
it seems you are pretty well connected with armourers and stuff. Lucky you. How do i become part of the inner circle? :)
Thank you, sir. As far as being part of the inner-circle, being on IMFDB pretty much means you already are. :) Several of the American armorers are either members on this site, or have contacted us and sent us pictures and information of screen-used guns (in case you haven't had the chance to check it out yet, our Public Enemies page now has pictures of some of the weapons used on that movie, like the Colt 38 Super machine pistol, which were sent to us by one of the movie's armorers). This is pretty much the place to be if you're into movie guns and looking to meet the guys who are involved in that industry. -MT2008 21:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
  • To add to these incorrect edits, you changed the Bad Boys II pages to say Lowrey uses a Glock 17 and 19, yet I put the first shot on the page to prove that theory wrong. He does indeed use two Glock 17s, although one is a 2nd generation and the other is a third generation. The image of the police officer firing his 2rd gen Glock 17 was also removed, which I'm not happy about, because I have to scour through the page history to find it now. From now on, ask in the discussion section if you don't think information is right, it isn't site edicate to change things without consent first. Even us admins (who aren't wrong that often) follow this rule. - Gunmaster45

I'm sorry but I definately have to disagree with you there. I'll try and get some screen captures later but the guns are not the same size. As a big fan of Glock pistols in general it is clear to see when he carries them in his holsters that they are not the same size. It could just be the angle of your First Shot that proves me wrong. Futher information from IMDB also proofs me right. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172156/trivia) I might not be a gunsmith but know enough that from 2nd generation to 3rd generation Glocks didn't shorten the barrel length of their guns. With this in mind what would be the relevance of keeping a 2nd generation Glock picutre up there if it has nothing to do with the movie?

Dirty Harry

I know you have magazine articles claiming that the guns used in the first film are Model 57. You may be correct. But at the end of the film there is a close up on the gun. It clearly reads 44 Magnum on the side of the barrel. So it will be changed back to Model 29. They may have used the Model 57 in every other scene but that one. But that's the one that shows the differences between the two. I will word the description to show that are sources that claim a Model 57 was used. --Predator20 14:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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The barrel clearly reads 44 Magnum not 41 Magnum.

Look I've given up. I've blown that picture up to the best of my abilities and I don't see 44 magnum there. Maybe my screen card is just not up to scratch (however it's quite the gaming pc) but at this stage it seems I'm like being very anti-American here and I'm spitting on the statue of liberty. So I'll admit defeat and just go get off of my soap box. If anything I'll be lucky to be a member since I forgot to reference where I got the original quote from. Bad potentpoefie. Very bad. I'll just be viewing and getting information from this site but it seems my days of contributing will be ending soon.

Did I say you were wrong about the Model 57 being used in the film? No, I did not. But the fact that when you lifted the the description from IMDb but omitted Fans however, have claimed that in a close up at the end of the film, the gun carried by Eastwood is in fact a genuine Model 29 chambered for a .44 Magnum. The close-up clearly shows the markings "44 MAGNU," with the final "M" blocked from view. Tells me that you don't want to accept that the Model 29 was also used. Also when someone sends you a message you respond on their talk page, not your own. --Predator20 23:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Did you lift your Model 29 paragraph from IMDB?

It's nearly identical. Either that or someone lifted yours and plagiarized your work on IMDB. Please let us know. Plagiarism is not allowed on IMFDB. And if someone plagiarized YOU on IMDB, we have contacts THERE who will delete their version if they are the not the original writers. :) MoviePropMaster2008 20:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I did. Sorry for that. That's my bad. In all the excitement I forgot to give credit where credit is due. And I personally hate i when people do that. In fact it might have saved me a lot of fighting if somebody thought it was my text. I humbly apologize. I see my post has been changed already. Thanks for that. If that disqualifies me from being a member I fully understand. I don't want to get the site into trouble for my mistake. So next time I log in and can't I will completely understand.