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[[Image:Scanner_Darkly_-_Police_Glock_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Cop:''' ''". . . oh, fuck this shit!"'']] | [[Image:Scanner_Darkly_-_Police_Glock_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Cop:''' ''". . . oh, fuck this shit!"'']] | ||
[[Image:Scanner_Darkly_-_Police_Glock_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|And the thousands of imaginary bugs crawling under Freck's skin find an exit. Clearly Freck has no idea of the amount of recoil a police-issue Glock has, given how much recoil he imagines it imparting to the firer.]] | [[Image:Scanner_Darkly_-_Police_Glock_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|And the thousands of imaginary bugs crawling under Freck's skin find an exit. Clearly Freck has no idea of the amount of recoil a police-issue Glock has, given how much recoil he imagines it imparting to the firer.]] | ||
[[Image:Scanner_Darkly_-_Alex_Jones_Reference.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A screenshot showing Alex Jones being referred to by name early on in the film, while Freck and Barris attempt to buy a can of sunburn spray to "filter a gram of cocaine" out of, in Barris' words. The original novel refers to the cop as ''"a huge dumb cop . . . pretending to read a stroke-book magazine at the front counter; in actuality . . . checking out everyone who entered, to see if they were intending to hit the place."'']] | [[Image:Scanner_Darkly_-_Alex_Jones_Reference.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A screenshot showing Alex Jones being referred to by name early on in the film, while Freck and Barris attempt to buy a can of sunburn spray to "filter a gram of cocaine" out of, in Barris' words. The original novel refers to the cop as ''"a huge dumb cop . . . pretending to read a stroke-book magazine at the front counter; in actuality . . . checking out everyone who entered, to see if they were intending to hit the place."'' To cement the depiction of this fictional world as a police state, the convenience store clerk is also depicted to be wearing what appears to be a military-grade ballistic vest, complete with groin protection.]] | ||
[[Image:Scanner_Darkly_-_James_Barris' | [[Image:Scanner_Darkly_-_James_Barris'_Revolver_8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A production shot of Robert Downey Jr. and Keanu Reeves, acting out the "home invasion" sequence.]] | ||
==Glock and service pistol== | ==Glock and service pistol== | ||
Revision as of 03:01, 20 March 2014
Extra Screenshots
Glock and service pistol
Arctor's pistol definitely looks like a Beretta, probably a 92FS. The Glock looks smaller than the 17, soooo G19? --PyramidHead (talk) 14:22, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
I'm not sure this page is eligible for inclusion. It may be rotoscoped, but there's very little detail in the weapons, so little, I can only make one positive ID. (Bob Arctor's pistol appears to be a Beretta 92FS, and even that changes in the very next screenshot.) We can't even see the gun in the last two Glock screenshots. --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:28, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
- I agree, if we're not going to allow animated series with crudely drawn weapons, this one looks like it shouldn't be included. Because none of the weapons were readily identified and unless there are behind the scenes shots showing the actor holding a prop weapon, I would lean towards not allowing this one. --Ben41 (talk) 16:43, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
- Technically, we do allow animated series in some cases (i.e. Archer), and since this movie was rotoscoped, we can safely assume that there was a propmaster who brought real blank-adapted weapons to the set for the actors to handle. Arctor's pistol is indeed a Beretta 92FS, as far as I can tell, and that cop is definitely using a Glock. I think that level of certainty is enough to warrant inclusion. -MT2008 (talk) 22:16, 10 March 2014 (EDT)
- If it was to be rotoscoped anyway, would they need to be blank-firing weapons? Wouldn't it be cheaper and safer just to animate it? --Funkychinaman (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2014 (EDT)
- Technically, we do allow animated series in some cases (i.e. Archer), and since this movie was rotoscoped, we can safely assume that there was a propmaster who brought real blank-adapted weapons to the set for the actors to handle. Arctor's pistol is indeed a Beretta 92FS, as far as I can tell, and that cop is definitely using a Glock. I think that level of certainty is enough to warrant inclusion. -MT2008 (talk) 22:16, 10 March 2014 (EDT)
If I had to guess, I'm guessing the revolver is some sort of Harrington & Richardson. I saw something similar in Sledge Hammer!. --Funkychinaman (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2014 (EDT)
Page essentially completed.
Okay, I've managed to finish this page despite having a Substance-D-grade headache. I've uploaded a few "behind-the-scenes" screenshots (recorded from what was available in the DVD version's special features--the Blu-Ray version may have more material to work with) to show how they used real or prop weapons before rotoscoping over them.
As for the "extraneous" screenshots and text I uploaded, what's the point in this wiki if we can't have a little fun with it? This isn't a "weapons recognition manual" for movies and other motion media, containing dry-as-bone academic text and boring-as-watching-guns-rusting-to-scrap-in-real-time photos. Personally, I like to look through these pages to get a feel of the movie/TV series/game/anime at least with regards to the firearms within (trailers and demos invite people to fantasize rather than show the true content of the media being "teased," no two ways about it). It's even better if the screenshots and the attached text give some kind of context with regards to what's happening in the event(s) depicted, or if sequential screenshots (containing guns) tell the story of what's going on in the relevant sequences (you can check out my own created pages for examples of this style). I feel that trivia sections also help to make the wiki more fun to read and consult.
By the way, is the scene of Robert Downey Jr.'s character making an ineffective "silencer" in this film deliberately paid homage to in Sherlock Holmes (2009), specifically with the Nagant M1895 in that film? If a deliberate homage was likely, then would a "Does this remind you of anything?" link on that page, back to this page be warranted? I can see that someone has already done something similar to illustrate an homage that an anime series made to Taxi Driver.
Also, I've noticed quite a few actor's pages with only a single gun-using role on this wiki. Now that Steven Chester Prince has two gun-using roles covered by wiki pages (the ones for this movie and the second season of Prison Break), does that mean he is now eligible for his own Actor Page on this wiki?--Mazryonh (talk) 03:17, 11 March 2014 (EDT)