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== M16A2 ==
== M16A2 ==
Some soldiers and guerrilla fighters are armed with [[M16A2]] assault rifles, it's appearance in the hands of the Salvadoran Army and FMLN guerillas is highly anachronistic; the M16A2 was not exported to El Salvador during the Civil War (by 1986, the M16A2 had only just been adopted by the US Army and Marine Corps), and the Salvadoran Army did not adopt the M16A2 for service until 2007.
Some soldiers and guerrilla fighters are armed with [[M16A2]] assault rifles. Its appearance in the hands of the Salvadoran Army and FMLN guerillas is highly anachronistic; the M16A2 was not exported to El Salvador during the Civil War (by 1986, the M16A2 had only just been adopted by the US Army and Marine Corps), and the Salvadoran Army did not adopt the M16A2 for service until 2007.
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Colt M16A2 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Colt M16A2 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:Voces inocentes-M16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the opening scene one of the soldiers, escorting arrested boys, holds an M16A2, note the extended magazine.]]
[[File:Voces inocentes-M16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the opening scene one of the soldiers, escorting arrested boys, holds an M16A2, note the extended magazine.]]

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Innocent Voices
(Voces inocentes)
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Original Theatrical Poster
Country Error creating thumbnail: File missing Mexico
Error creating thumbnail: File missing USA
Directed by Luis Mandoki
Release Date 2004
Language Spanish
Studio Lawrence Bender Productions
MUVI Films
Organizacion Santo Domingo
Distributor Lionsgate
20th Century Fox
Polychrome Pictures
Main Cast
Character Actor
Chava Carlos Padilla
Kella Leonor Varela
Beto José Maria Yazpik
Mama Toya Ofelia Medina
Rosita Ana Paulina Caceres
Cristina Maria Xuna Primus
The Priest Daniel Gimenez Cacho


Innocent Voices (Voces inocentes) is a 2004 Mexican war drama. It depicts the tragedy of the Salvadoran Civil War through the eyes of children, as narrated by eleven-year-old boy Chava.


The following weapons were used in the film Innocent Voices:


Handguns

M1911-Style Pistol

Chava's uncle Beto (José Maria Yazpik), a guerrilla fighter, holds an M1911-style pistol in one scene. M1911-style pistols are also used by officers of the Salvadoran Army.

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For comparison: World War II Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP
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In the scene when the schoolboys are recruited into the army, an officer of the government troops carries an M1911-style pistol with pearl grips in a holster.
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Beto draws his pistol.
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The grip and the trigger guard that is more angular than on original M1911s is seen.
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The barrel is seen.
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A general view of the pistol.
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A sergeant of the government troops fires his pistol at a loudspeaker on the church building that transmits a forbidden song.
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The wooden grips of a pistol in the holster of an NCO.
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An officer executes boys captured in the guerrilla camp.
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The officer is gunned down and drops his pistol.

Unidentified Revolver

An unidentified revolver is very briefly seen in the hands of a guerrilla fighter.

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Shotguns

Unidentified Shotguns

Guerrillas use pump-action shotguns. These guns are seen very briefly and unclear.

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A pump-action shotgun is very briefly seen in hands of a guerrilla fighter during the night shootout.
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A guerrilla fighter holds a shotgun with extended magazine tube during the attack on the village. Other guerrillas are armed with M16s and AKs.
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A guerrilla fighter at the left fires a shotgun.

Rifles

Unidentified Rifle

During the attack of the guerrillas on the village, one fighter fires an unidentified rifle from the bell tower.

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A fighter with a rifle on the bell tower.
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He fires at government soldiers.

Assault Rifles

M16

Most soldiers of the Salvadoran Army are armed with M16/SP1 assault rifles with 20- and 30-round magazines. Guerrillas also use M16s.

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M16 (or Colt AR-15 SP1) with an A1 "birdcage" flash hider, used to resemble the M16A1. This version has a 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm
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In the opening scene one of the soldiers, escorting arrested boys, holds an M16/SP1.
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Soldiers patrolling the village carry M16/SP1 assault rifles.
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A good view of the handguard and front sight of the M16 in the scene when the schoolboys are recruited into army.
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A good view of a M16/SP1 with a 20-round magazine in the same scene.
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A close-up of an M16/SP1 in the hands of a child soldier.
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A child soldier fires his M16 into the air to impress former classmates.
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A soldier with an M16/SP1.
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A child soldier with an M16/SP1 during the battle with guerrillas.

M16A2

Some soldiers and guerrilla fighters are armed with M16A2 assault rifles. Its appearance in the hands of the Salvadoran Army and FMLN guerillas is highly anachronistic; the M16A2 was not exported to El Salvador during the Civil War (by 1986, the M16A2 had only just been adopted by the US Army and Marine Corps), and the Salvadoran Army did not adopt the M16A2 for service until 2007.

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Colt M16A2 - 5.56x45mm
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In the opening scene one of the soldiers, escorting arrested boys, holds an M16A2, note the extended magazine.
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A soldier at the left holds an M16A2.
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A soldier with M16A2.
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A guerrilla fighter holds an M16. The A2 handguard is seen.
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A soldier at the background holds an M16A2 during the execution of the boys captured in the guerrilla camp.

ArmaLite AR-18

AR-18s are also seen in the hands of several soldiers.

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ArmaLite AR-18 – 5.56x45mm
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A soldier in the background holds an AR-18. Note the folding buttstock and the shape of the magazine well.
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A soldier at the left holds an AR-18.

AKM

Raton (Héctor Jiménez) carries an AKM.

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AKM - 7.62x39mm
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Raton holds the AKM. The slanted muzzle brake can be seen.
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Raton carries the AKM.
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A general view of Raton's AK.

Norinco Type 56

Some guerrilla fighters are armed with Norinco Type 56 assault rifles. During the shootout between guerrillas and soldiers, Chava picks up a Type 56.

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Norinco Type 56, milled receiver model without bayonet - 7.62x39mm
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A killed guerrilla fighter holds an AK.
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A close view of the receiver.
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Chava picks up the AK.
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Chava aims at a child soldier... but recognizes his former classmate and can't shoot. The hooded front sight of the Type 56 is seen.

Various AKs

Some other guerrilla fighters are armed with AKs that are seen only at a distance, so it's impossible to identify the exact model.

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A guerrilla fighter holds an AK during the attack on the village.
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A guerrilla fighter at the right fires an AK.
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A guerrilla fighter fires an AK (likely an AK-47 or Type 56) during the night attack of the government troops. The image is mirrored.

Machine Guns

Vickers Mk.1

A water-cooled machine gun that appears to be based on a variant of the Vickers Mk.1 Machine Gun is mounted on the turret of the government armored car. It is likely a non-firing mock-up, as the machine gun lacks a barrel inside the water jacket, and the shooting is imitated. The Vickers Mk.1 was not used in the Civil War by either the Salvadoran Army or the FMLN guerrillas.

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Vickers Mk1 Machine Gun - .303 British
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The machine gun on the turret of the armored car. Note the wide opening of the water jacket and the lack of the barrel itself.
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The flame is seen inside the water jacket.
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A soldier fires at the guerrilla sniper of the bell tower. Note the lack of the cartridge belt.
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Fire!

Explosives

Hand Grenades

Guerrilla fighters use hand grenades during the attack on the village. The grenades are seen only at a distance.

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A fighter throws a grenade.
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The grenade is seen in midair.

Trivia

Armored Car

The government troops use an armored car against the guerrillas. Its main gun seems to be a mock-up.

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The armored car moves on the village street.
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The main gun is seen.
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The main gun seem to be a mock-up.
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The armored car in the village after the battle.

Gun Crates

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The gun crates in the guerrilla camp are marked "M16/HBAR. Cal .223".