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Talk:No Country for Old Men

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Colt Delta Elite or a smaller frame 1911?

I thought the Delta Elite wasn't manufactured until 1987. Could this be another anachronism?

I'm a little more curious to know what makes us think this is a Delta Elite to begin with. It looked to me like it might have just been a regular Commander-type 1911. But if it is a Delta Elite, then yes, it is yet another of the movie's many firearms-related anachronisms.
I thought it was a 1911 myself.
I agree, does not look like a Delta Elite to me. Don't know why it is considered to be one.
It also seems like a 1911 would be way more common for a sheriff to carry than a Delta Elite.
I don't mean to be rude to the person that made this page, but unless we can find a good reason to state this is a Delta Elite, I think we should change the section to a 1911.
It's definitely not a regular 1911 or 1911A1. It has a circular hammer, so it's gotta be a Commander variant such as the Series 80. The only question is whether it's the Delta Elite (which is similar externally to the Commander line, but chambered for 10mm).
Agreed. Mabey it would be better if we moved this to the discussion page so we do not clutter up the page?

The Book

The ending of the book was way better. The sheriff hunts Anton down and puts a slug in his face-S&Wshooter 04:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Remington 11-87

Unless this movie is going for historical inaccuracy, the gun would be a Remington 1100. It's not a Remington 11 since it doesn't have the same exterior design. Doubt it would be an 11-48 since the recoil seems too low. The 1100 is the most likely gun, since the Remington 11-87 wasn't produced until 1987, hence the name "Remington 11-87". 70.157.131.56 02:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Book Guns

So far I'm only about a third of the way through the book but I'm pretty surprised as to how close the two follow each other, even in terms of guns used. For example, so far I've seen:

  • Moss's "heavybarreled .270 on a '98 Mauser action with a laminated stock of maple and walnut... Unertl telescopic sight of the same power as the binoculars", reflected as a Remington 700 in the film
  • the "shortbarreled H&K machinepistol with a black nylon shoulderstrap" that Moss picks up in the book is an H&K SP89 in the film
  • Moss finds a "nickelplated government .45 automatic" in the hands of a dead drug dealer, which is what he finds in the film as well (with mentions in the book of the grip safety, etc.)
  • Chigurh shoots the two men at trucks with a "nine millimeter Glock", as seen in the film
  • Moss buys a "twelve gauge Winchester pump gun and a box of double ought buckshot shells" with references later made to the hammer and his sawing-down process seen exactly duplicated in the film with the Winchester '97 that Moss purchases

Several other guns are mentioned, such as Bell reflecting on "Colts .44-40" and how "if that won't stop him you'd better throw the thing down and take off runnin'" and how he "likes the old Winchester model 97. I like that it's got a hamer. I don't like havin' to hunt the safety on a gun." All in all, safe for the unforgivable error of constantly referring to magazines as "clips", Cormac McCarthy did a good job incorporating guns into the story and the filmmakers did a good job sticking to the ones in the book. (I'll update later once I've read further on.) Speakeasy804 22:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)