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It should be noted that the M4s used in the show for non-firing scenes appear to be airsoft M4s. However, every time the "M4s" are fired, they magically turn into Colt AR-15 Sporter 1 carbines, as described below. Yet more evidence of this show's tendency to use older model civilian "assault weapons" (many of which are no longer sold/manufactured in the United States) for all of the characters - "good" guys and "bad" guys.
It should be noted that the M4s used in the show for non-firing scenes appear to be airsoft M4s. However, every time the "M4s" are fired, they magically turn into Colt AR-15 Sporter 1 carbines, as described below. Yet more evidence of this show's tendency to use older model civilian "assault weapons" (many of which are no longer sold/manufactured in the United States) for all of the characters - "good" guys and "bad" guys.


[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M4A1 5.56mm]]
[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M4A1 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:KillPointM4A1.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A Pittsburg Police SWAT officer with his M4A1 at the ready]]
[[Image:KillPointM4A1.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A Pittsburg Police SWAT officer with his M4A1 at the ready]]
[[Image:KP-M4-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Pittsburg Police SWAT officers load up their M4A1s.]]
[[Image:KP-M4-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Pittsburg Police SWAT officers load up their M4A1s.]]

Revision as of 17:46, 7 May 2009

The following weapons are used in the television series The Kill Point:

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More to come.... -MT2008


Ingram MAC-11

The robber Albert "Mr. Pig" Roman (Frank Grillo) can be seen carrying a MAC-11 as his weapon of choice through most of the series. One of the hostages, Ashley Beck (Christine Evangelista), gets ahold of it when she and some of the other hostages make a bid to overpower their captors, but loses her nerve when faced with the prospect of actually using the weapon and ends up letting "Mr. Pig" retake it, foiling their plans.

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Ingram MAC-11, .380 ACP
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Albert "Mr. Pig" Roman loads up his MAC-11 in the robbers' Suburban as they drive to the bank.
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Albert "Mr. Pig" Roman firing his MAC-11 at police outside the bank.
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Albert "Mr. Pig" Roman firing his MAC-11 when SWAT tries to storm the bank
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Ashley Beck eyes Albert "Mr. Pig" Roman MAC-11 as it sits on a table unguarded.
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Ashley Beck holds Albert "Mr. Pig" Roman at gunpoint with his own MAC-11 during an attempt to overpower the robbers


Heckler & Koch SP89

The leader of the robbers, Jake "Mr. Wolf" Mendez (John Leguizamo), can be seen using a Heckler & Koch SP89, a civilian variant of the H&K MP5K with two magazines taped together 'jungle style' and converted to fire full auto. One of the hostages named Rocko (Adam Cantor) is seen with it when disguised as "Mr. Wolf" when it seems like Ashley Beck is going to be released, and later gets ahold of it briefly when some of the hostages stage an ill-fated bid to overpower their captors.

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Heckler & Koch SP89 9x19mm with 15-round magazine
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Jake "Mr. Wolf" Mendez cocks his H&K SP89 in the robbers' Suburban as they drive to the bank.
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Jake "Mr. Wolf" Mendez holding his H&K SP89 in the bank.
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Jake "Mr. Wolf" Mendez with his SP89.
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Jake "Mr. Wolf" Mendez takes the safety off on his SP89 when he thinks he may have to kill a hostage.
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Jake "Mr. Wolf" Mendez fires on FBI Agent Carrie Southwell with his H&K SP89. The SP89 in this photo is obviously fake; it's a flashbulb-firing "Non Gun" used because at the distance of the shot, blanks would be harmful to the actor.

Smith & Wesson Model 15

When the robbers first take over the bank, the security guard Henry (Adam Kroloff) has a Smith & Wesson Model 15 revolver, which is quickly taken from him by "Mr. Pig" who then holds it on the other bystanders in the bank along with his MAC-11, though isn't seen with it after the first episode.

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Smith & Wesson Model 15 .38 Special

Smith & Wesson Model 60

the Pittsburg Police negotiator, Captain Horst Cali (Donnie Wahlberg) carries a Smith & Wesson Model 60 revolver as his sidearm, in contrast to his fellow officers who carry Glocks. He rarely uses it, preferring to employ his negotiating skills instead. He most notably has it drawn when chasing Mr. Wolf through the tunnel beneath the bank as Mr. Wolf flees back inside.

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Smith & Wesson Model 60 .357 magnum
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Captain Horst Cali with his Smith & Wesson Model 60 drawn as he persues Jake "Mr. Wolf" Mendez

AR-15 A2 HBAR

Pittsburg Police officers responding to the robbery and an armored van driver can be seen using Colt AR-15 A2 HBAR rifles, the civilian version of the M16A2, during the first shootout. Another AR-15 A2 can be seen in the hands of one of the men brought in as backup during the final shootout, but he is taken out by SWAT before he can use it.

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Colt AR-15 A2 HBAR 5.56x45mm
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A Pittsburg P.D. officer fires an AR-15 A2 HBAR during the first shootout
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A Pittsburg P.D. officer fires an AR-15 A2 during the first shootout

Glock 17

Pittsburg Police officers and SWAT members responding to the robbery and FBI Agent Carrie Southwell, who is fatally wounded during the first shootout, can be seen wielding 2nd and 3rd Glock 17 pistols. "Mr. Wolf" can be seen holding a Glock in promotional material as seen above, but never uses one on-screen.

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2nd Generation Glock 17 9x19mm
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3rd Generation Glock 17 9x19mm
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A Pittsburg P.D. officer fires his Glock 17 during the first shootout
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FBI Agent Carrie Southwell fires her Glock 17 during the first shootout
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A SWAT officer with a Glock 17.
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Hawk draws his Glock 17 on one of the 10-13 members
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SWAT commander Lt. Connie Reubens with her Glock 17 at the ready
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FBI Agent Carrie Southwell raises her Glock 17 moments before being fatally wounded by Jake "Mr. Wolf" Mendez

Micro Uzi

The robber Marshall "Mr. Cat" O'Brien, Jr. (J.D. Williams) can be seen wielding a Micro Uzi with a custom shoulder sling. One of the hostages, an elderly man named Bernard (Bingo O'Malley) later gets ahold of the weapon in an ill-fated attempt to overpower their captors. Another Micro Uzi can be seen in the hands of one of the men brought in as backup during the final shootout, holding Cpt. Cali's wife Lucy Cali (Laurel Brooke Johnson) at gunpoint with it before being killed by Quincy.

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Micro Uzi 9x19mm
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Marshall "Mr. Cat" O'Brien, Jr. loads up his Micro-Uzi before the robbery.
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Marshall "Mr. Cat" O'Brien, Jr. with his Micro Uzi in the bank during the robbery.
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Marshall "Mr. Cat" O'Brien, Jr. being held at gunpoint with his own Micro-Uzi as some of the hostages make a bid to overpower the robbers

Remington 870

The robber Henry "Mr. Rabbit" Roman (Jeremy Davidson) and Pittsburg Police officers responding to the robbery as well as one of the armored van drivers can be seen using Remington 870 shotguns. The one used by "Mr. Rabbit" has a pachymar revolver-style pistol grip in place of the stock. He is last seen with it when his body is found in the bank, having been killed during a brawl with "Mr. Wolf" when the two came to blows about how to resolve the siege.

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Remington 870 12 guage
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A Pittsburg Police officer with a Remington 870 during the first shootout
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Henry "Mr. Rabbit" Roman loads his Remington 870 in the robbers' vehicle.
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Henry "Mr. Rabbit" Roman guards a group of hostages while holding his Remington 870
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Henry "Mr. Rabbit" Roman reloading his Remington 870.


M4A1 Carbine

Pittsburgh Police SWAT officers responding to the bank robbery can be seen carrying M4A1 carbines fitted with various accessories including RIS foregrips and tactical flashlights. Due to the heavy SWAT presence, the weapon is one of the most common in scenes outside the bank. Some of the men brought in as backup for the final shootout can also be seen with M4A1's.

It should be noted that the M4s used in the show for non-firing scenes appear to be airsoft M4s. However, every time the "M4s" are fired, they magically turn into Colt AR-15 Sporter 1 carbines, as described below. Yet more evidence of this show's tendency to use older model civilian "assault weapons" (many of which are no longer sold/manufactured in the United States) for all of the characters - "good" guys and "bad" guys.

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M4A1 5.56x45mm
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A Pittsburg Police SWAT officer with his M4A1 at the ready
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Pittsburg Police SWAT officers load up their M4A1s.
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Pittsburg Police SWAT officers load up their M4A1s.
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A Pittsburg SWAT officer prepares to enter the bank with his M4A1.

Colt AR-15 Sporter-1 carbine

In scenes where Pittsburgh P.D. SWAT officers fire their M4A1 carbines, the weapons switch to Colt AR-15 SP1 carbines with 16" barrels, fitted with Surefire M500AB weaponlights.

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Colt Model 653 Carbine 5.56mm
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A Pittsburg Police SWAT officer fires his Colt AR-15 Sporter-1 carbine fitted with a Surefire M500AB weaponlight, which has transformed from the M4A1 he had moments ago (note the receiver)
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Hawk with his "M4", which has mysteriously become an AR-15 carbine. Note the receiver design.
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A first-person view down the barrel of Hawk's AR-15 carbine.


Blaser 93 Sniper Rifle

One of the Pittsburg Police SWAT snipers named Quincy (Michael K. Williams) can be seen using a Blaser 93 sniper rifle with a custom muzzle brake and folding bipod. He gets to fire it once in the last episode, killing one of the thugs brought in as backup who is holding Cpt. Cali's wife hostage at the start of the last shootout.

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Blaser 93 sniper rifle 7.62x51mm NATO
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Quincy looking through the scope of his Blaser 93 sniper rifle
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Quincy looking through the scope of his Blaser 93 sniper rifle
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Quincy looking through the scope of his Blaser 93 sniper rifle
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Quincy looking through the scope of his Blaser 93 sniper rifle


Remington Model 700PSS

Some of the Pittsburg Police SWAT snipers outside the bank can be seen using Remington Model 700PSS sniper rifles fitted with folding bipods.

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Remington Model 700PSS sniper rifle with Harris bipod .300 Win Mag
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A Pittsburg P.D. SWAT sniper with a Remington Model 700PSS sniper rifle fitted with a folding bipod

Ruger All-Weather Mark II Model 77 Rifle

In one episode, a hitman hired by Alan Beck (Tobin Bell) can be seen assembling a suppressed Ruger All-Weather Mark II Model 77 sniper rifle that he had been carrying in a suitcase. He fires it on one of the robbers who turns out to be Rocko disguised as "Mr. Wolf", hitting him in the ear before other members of Mendez's platoon operating outside the bank can kill the sniper.

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The sniper loads his rifle
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The sniper prepares to shoot Rocko, disguised as "Mr. Wolf"

Norinco Type 56-1

The robber "Mr. Mouse" (Leo Fitzpatrick) can be seen carrying a Norinco Type 56-1 (Chinese AKS-47/AKMS clone) with an AKM-style slant compensator as his weapon of choice (it is doubtful his gun was brought back from Iraq as mentioned previously, because all of the robbers use civilian "assault weapon" clones). "Mr. Wolf" can also be seen holding it with the magazine removed soon after "Mr. Mouse" accidentally shoots one of the hostages with it. Rocko later gets ahold of it when some of the hostages make an ill-fated bid to overpower their captors. "Mr. Pig" later uses it briefly after "Mr. Mouse" becomes overcome with delusion due to infection of a gunshot wound he sustained during the first shootout when the robbers make an attempted escape. One of the men brought in as backup during the final shootout can also be seen with the same Type 56-1 before being taken out by SWAT.

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Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm
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Mr. Mouse with his Norinco Type 56-1 in the robbers' vehicle.
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Mr. Mouse holds his Norinco Type 56-1 on Rocko during the robbery. Note the front sight, which is clearly the full-circle type unique to Norinco AKs.
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Mr. Wolf hands Mr. Mouse back his his Type 56-1 after the accident where he shoots the girl.
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Rocko takes Mr. Mouse's Type 56-1 during the attempt to overpower the robbers. In this particular shot, the gun is missing the slant compensator, though it is seen with this feature most of the time in the series.

Walther PPK

One of the hostages, Leroy Barnes (Ryan Sands), can be seen hiding a stainless steel Walther PPK in a potted plant in the bank. He later recovers it and holds it on "Mr. Rabbit" when the hostages make an ill-fated bid to overpower their captors, forcing him to drop his weapon, then pistol-whipping him with the pistol. He then loses it when the attempt fails, "Mr. Rabbit" taking it from him.

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Walther PPK .380 ACP
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Leroy Barnes pulls his Walther PPK on Mr. Rabbit during the attempt to overpower the robbers

Kimel AP-9

The robbers' getaway driver, Deke Quinlan, (Steve Cirbus) can be seen using a two-tone Kimel AP-9 during the first shootout, and can be seen with it on the bed of his apartment while watching the standoff on television. He has it again during the final shootout, last seen with it after being killed by Cpt. Cali.

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AA Arms/Kimel Industries AP-9 Pistol - 9mm
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Deke Quinlan firing his Kimel AP-9 during the first shootout.
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Deke's AP-9 sitting on top of his laptop computer while he and the other 10-13 members are trying to figure out how to get Mr. Wolf and his crew out of the bank.


Desert Eagle

When Deke Quinlan and other members of Mendez's platoon are forming a plan to get the robbers out of the bank from a nearby building, a Desert Eagle can be seen on the table as they're talking.

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Desert Eagle .50 AE with stainless steel finish
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A Desert Eagle can be seen sitting on the table as Deke and his accomplices plan to liberate Mendez and the other robbers

Steyr AUG

In the final episode, Mr. Wolf can be seen with a Steyr AUG, loading it while riding with Cpt. Cali to the site of the final shootout wherein he runs out of ammo and abandons the weapon, but not before wounding the SWAT commander, Lt. Connie Reubens (Michael Hyatt) with a shot to the shoulder from the rifle.

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Steyr AUG 5.56mm
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Wolf aims his AUG at Deak during the stand-off.
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Wolf fires his AUG at the SWAT officers.

Beretta 92FS

During the final shootout, Cpt. Cali gets ahold of a Beretta 92FS, having lost his revolver when he was taken with the robbers. He uses it in a shootout with Deke Quinlan, killing him with it and rescuing his wife who was being held hostage, and then in the final faceoff with Mr. Wolf, fatally wounding him with a shot to the chest from the Beretta.

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Beretta 92FS 9mm
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A close-up of the Beretta 92FS in Cali's hand.
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Cali about to shoot Wolf with the Beretta.


Heckler & Koch USC

During the final shootout, Mr. Cat can be seen using a Heckler & Koch USC in place of his Micro Uzi. He uses it to try to provide cover fire so Wolf can escape, but is ultimately gunned down by the police.

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Heckler & Koch USC .45 ACP
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Cat backing up Wolf, with his H&K USC slung across his chest.
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Cat ducks SWAT gunfire with his USC.
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Cat firing the USC.

Daewoo K1A

The only robber to survive the final shootout, "Mr. Pig" can be seen with a semi-automatic civilian carbine version of the Daewoo K1A1 in place of the MAC-11 he carried before, discarding it when he boards a passing train, making him the only one of the robbers to escape.

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Daewoo K1A carbine .223 Remington
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Browning Hi-Power

When approaching the ambulance used by the robbers to escape the bank, a Pittsburg P.D. officer can be seen with a Browning Hi-Power at the ready, one of the few police personnel besides Cpt. Cali to use a handgun other than a Glock.

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Browning Hi-Power 9mm


Jericho 941

After leaving the bank, "Mr. Wolf" procures a stainless steel Jericho 941, using it as a backup to the Steyr AUG in the final shootout, and the ensuing faceoff with Cpt. Cali, using it to force Cali to fatally shoot him, calling Cali's act "a righteous kill". (this is a reference to the fact that both John Leguizamo, who plays Wolf, and Donnie Wahlberg, who plays Cali, were partnered as detectives in the Al Pacino/Robert De Niro film Righteous Kill)

But the Kill point was released in 2007 and Righteous Kill was released in 2008, so how is one referencing the one that came later?
I'm guessing that John Leguizamo and Donnie Wahlberg had just found out they had been cast together in "Righteous Kill" at the time when this episode of the show was filmed, even if "Righteous Kill" hadn't been filmed/released yet. But it would be a ridiculous coincidence if this wasn't a reference to that movie. -MT2008
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Jericho 941 "Baby Eagle" with stainless steel finish
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Wolf points the Jericho 941 at his own head.

Smith & Wesson Model 5906

During the final shootout, "Mr. Cat" can be seen with a Smith & Wesson 5906 with ambidextrous safety selector as backup to his H&K USC.

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Smith & Wesson Model 5906
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Mr. Cat with his Smith & Wesson 5906
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A close-up of the 5906 in Mr. Cat's hands