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=== Colt 1851 Navy style revolver ===
=== Colt 1851 Navy style revolver ===
In the scene in Camp Cooper in Texas when a group of officers leave to the North after the secession of the southern states, a cavalry officer holds a revolver that looks similar to Colt Navy but has a fluted cylinder and round barrel. Most likely this a some modern replica of the Colt.
In the scene in Camp Cooper in Texas when a group of officers leave to the North after the secession of the southern states, a cavalry officer holds a revolver that looks similar to cartridge converted Colt Navy (the loading gate can be seen) but has a fluted cylinder and round barrel, uncommon for genuine Colts. Most likely this a some modern replica of the Colt.
[[File:North-and-South-Book-I-Colt1851Navy-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-I-Colt1851Navy-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-I-Colt1851Navy-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A cavalry officer holds a Colt Navy style revolver.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-I-Colt1851Navy-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A cavalry officer holds a Colt Navy style revolver.]]

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North and South: Book I
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Country Error creating thumbnail: File missing USA
Channel ABC
Creator David L. Wolper
Genre Historical
Drama
Romance
Broadcast 1985
No. of Seasons 1
No. of Episodes 6
Main Cast
Character Actor
Orry Main Patrick Swayze
George Hazard James Read
Madeline LaMotte, nee Fabray Lesley-Anne Down
Constance Main, nee Flynn Wendy Kilbourne
Virgilia Hazard Kirstie Alley
Ashton Main Terri Garber
Brett Main Genie Francis
Charles Main Lewis Smith
Billy Hazard John Stockwell
Elkanah Bent Philip Casnoff



North and South: Book I (or just North and South) is a 1985 6-part miniseries, the first part of a trilogy adapted from trilogy of novels North and South by John Jakes. It depicts the story of two large families: Mains, planters from South Carolina, and Hazards, industrialists from Pennsylvania, before the Civil War (second part of the trilogy is set during the war, and the third - after). Main characters are Orry Main (Patrick Swayze) and George Hazard (James Read) who became friends while attending the United States Military Academy at West Point.

The following weapons were used in the miniseries North and South: Book I:



Revolvers

Colt Paterson 1836

During the Battle of Churubusco on August 1847 Lt. Orry Main (Patrick Swayze) carries a Colt Paterson 1836 revolver that he took from a holster of a dead Texas volunteer.

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Colt Paterson 5th Model - .36 caliber.
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Orry Main fires the revolver.
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A close view of the revolver.
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Orry Main holds the revolver in action against Mexican soldiers.
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A promotional image of Orry Main (Patrick Swayze), carrying the Colt Paterson revolver in his belt. The Texas Lone Star is seen on the grip.

Colt Dragoon

During the Battle of Churubusco Lts. Orry Main (Patrick Swayze) and George Hazard (James Read) carry Colt Dragoon revolvers (in reality Dragoon appeared only a year later). When Main's revolver runs dry, he takes a Colt Paterson (see above) from a dead Texas volunteer. No closeups of the screen guns show the right side but a promotional image allows to see what appears to be a loading gate, so the Dragoons may be cartridge converted version.

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Original Colt Dragoon 1st Model - .44 Cal.
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Orry Main holds his Colt Dragoon during the retreat of US troops.
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George Hazard holds his revolver in action.
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Main's revolver runs out of ammo.
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Hazard (at the right) holds a Colt Dragoon while Main arms himself with a Colt Paterson.
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Hazard fires his revolver.
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Another view of Hazard's Colt Dragoon.
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A close view of Hazard's revolver.
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Orry Main (Patrick Swayze) and George Hazard (James Read) carry Colt Dragoon revolvers on a promotional image (Main also carries a Colt Paterson). Note that Main's Dragoon seem to have loading gate, so it appears to be a cartridge converted gun.
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Orry Main (Patrick Swayze) with a Colt Paterson 1836 and George Hazard (James Read) with a Colt Dragoon on a promotional image.

Colt Walker

During the said battle a Colt Walker is seen in hands of Capt. Elkanah Bent (Philip Casnoff), Main's and Hazard's enemy in West Point and currently their superior.

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Colt Walker 1847 - .44 caliber.
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Bent draws his revolver.
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Under the threat of a gun, Bent orders Main and Hazard to lead a suicidal reconnaissance against the Mexicans on the bridge.
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Another view of Bent's revolver.
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A closeup of the Colt.

Colt 1851 Navy

George's younger brother, Lt. Billy Hazard (John Stockwell) and Forbes LaMotte (William Ostrander) use Colt 1851 Navy revolvers in their duel. Garrison Grady (Georg Stanford Brown) carries a Colt Navy when he join abolitionist leader John Brown in the famous raid on Harper's Ferry, Virginia, in October 1859. Justin LaMotte (David Carradine) holds a Colt Navy in one scene.

Note: see additional images on talk page.

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Colt 1851 Navy - .36 caliber.
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During the raid on Harper's Ferry Garrison Grady is gunned down and drops his revolver.
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Forbes LaMotte's companion Preston Smith (David Weaver) loads the revolvers for the duel.
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Billy holds a revolver.
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Forbes holds a revolver.
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Forbes violates the dueling code by turning to Billy on the count of eight instead of ten.
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Billy fires his revolver but to his amusement the gunshot turned into just a pop, and the bullet did not reach the target.
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Charles Main (Lewis Smith) comes to the rescue of Billy, examines the revolver and explains that it was treacherously loaded with too little gunpowder.
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A townsman in Pennsylvania holds a Colt Navy revolver when the lynch mob demands from George Hazard to give out Orry Main.

Colt 1851 Navy style revolver

In the scene in Camp Cooper in Texas when a group of officers leave to the North after the secession of the southern states, a cavalry officer holds a revolver that looks similar to cartridge converted Colt Navy (the loading gate can be seen) but has a fluted cylinder and round barrel, uncommon for genuine Colts. Most likely this a some modern replica of the Colt.

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A cavalry officer holds a Colt Navy style revolver.

Remington 1858 New Army

Billy Hazard (John Stockwell) is seen with a Remington 1858 New Army revolver when he defends his beloved Brett Main (Genie Francis). Forbes LaMotte (William Ostrander) grabs Billy Hazard's revolver when the rigged duel between the both turns into a full-fledged fight.

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Remington 1858 New Army - .44 caliber
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Lt. Billy Hazard draws his revolver against the thugs.
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Forbes LaMotte grabs Billy's revolver.
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Mortally wounded Forbes drops the gun.

Allen & Thurber Pepperbox

Alice Peet (Terri Gardner), a hooker with whom Elkanah Bent was caught in West Point, holds an Allen & Thurber Pepperbox against enraged Bent.

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Allen & Thurber Pepperbox revolver. The screen gun has shorter barrel.
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Alice threatens Bent.
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A close view of the pepperbox.

Pistols

Pinfire Double Barreled Pistol

Orry Main (Patrick Swayze) draws a pinfire double barreled pistol when he encounters fugitive slave Priam. When Orry goes to meet George Hazard, he also has a pinfire double barreled pistol but this is another model with differently placed lever.

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Orry aims at Priam. His pistol has a lever placed on trigger guard.
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One of the cronies of the dismissed overseer Salem Jones holds a double barreled pistol during the brawl with Charles and Orry Mains. This pistol also seems to be a pinfire gun but it is seen only partially or blurry (below).
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The pistol is seen very blurry when Orry disarms the man.
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Orry holds the pistol of the disarmed hoodlum.
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Orry's pistol is seen on the table when he readies for the voyage to Pennsylvania. The gun has a lever under barrel, unlike Orry's first pistol, but it bears similarity with the one that Orry took from a hoodlum.

Percussion Dueling Pistol

Charles Main (Lewis Smith) and Whitney Smith (William Arvay) use Percussion Dueling Pistols during their duel.

Note: see additional images on talk page.

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Percussion Cap Ardesa 1871 Dueling Pistol - .45 inch. An example of percussion cap dueling pistol, generally similar to the screen gun.
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Charles Main trains in shooting before the duel under the mentorship of his elder cousin Orry Main.
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Charles' second Orry Main loads a pistol.
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Whitney Smith's second Smith Dawkins (Tuck Milligan) holds a pistol.
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Orry hands a pistol to Charles and encourages him.
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Despite being wounded in hand by Smith's shot, Charles holds the pistol and confidently aims.
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Smith nervously waits for Charles' gunshot.
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Charles fires in air.

Percussion Cap Pistol

Two Percussion Cap Pistols are seen in the scene when Charles Main (Lewis Smith) trains in shooting before his duel with Whitney Smith (William Arvay).

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Teodoro Arrizabalaga percussion cap pistol replica, Spain, 1960. This model is generaly similar to the screen gun.
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Charles Main trains in shooting.
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Another view of Charles' pistol. It has a full length handguard with a ramrod and appears to be a military model.
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Two pistols and a dueling pistol are lying on a barrel.
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Charles Main (Lewis Smith) holds a pair of percussion cap pistols on a promotional image.

Rifles

Sharps 1863 Carbine

Sharps carbines, most likely Sharps 1863 Carbine, are widely used during the events of John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry. This is in nearly full accordance with the real events: Brown's men were armed with .52 caliber Sharps carbines, nicknamed "Beecher's Bibles", but of course these guns were not 1863 but 1851 and 1853 models. Sharps carbines are also seen in the scene in Camp Cooper.

Note: see additional images on talk page.

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Sharps 1863 Saddle Ring Carbine - .52 caliber
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John Brown (Johnny Cash) holds a Sharps carbine.
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John Brown with a Sharps carbine.
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Orderly (Drew Deighan) and other abolitionists of Brown's group with Sharps carbines.
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Garrison Grady (Georg Stanford Brown) threatens to kill Orry Main.
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Priam (David Harris), also holding a Sharps, stops Garrison Grady.
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Virgilia Hazard (Kirstie Alley) takes a carbine of killed Priam.
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During the events in Camp Cooper soldiers from southern states hold Sharps carbines.
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Another view of the scene.

M1841 Mississippi Musket

M1841 Mississippi Muskets are seen in hands of cadets of the United States Military Academy at West Point, including Orry Main (Patrick Swayze), George Hazard (James Read) and George McClellan (Chris Douridas) in 1840s, and Billy Hazard (John Stockwell) and Charles Main (Lewis Smith) in 1850s. Also M1841 muskets are used by US Army soldiers and Mexican soldiers during the Battle of Churubusco and by Virginian militia during the events in Harper's Ferry.

Note: see additional images on talk page.

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M1841 Mississippi rifled musket - .58 Minie ball
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Cadets march with muskets with attached bayonets. The only sword bayonet, issued for US battle rifles of that time, was a Model 1855, used with M1841 Mississippi Musket and Springfield Model 1855, but it had curved blade while screen guns are fitted with bayonets with straight blades (possibly prop bayonets were simplified in comparison with original ones).
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Cadets on shooting range.
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A good view of the hammer on one musket and of brass patchbox on another musket.
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A Mexican soldier with an M1841 musket in action.
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Next generation of West Point cadets, including George's younger brother Billy and Orry's cousin Charles, march with M1841 muskets.
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Two of men of Virginian militia (at the background) hold M1841 muskets (the men at the foreground are armed with muskets of another type).

Springfield 1861

A Springfield 1861 rifled musket is seen in hands of a Union soldier.

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Springfield Model 1861 - .58 caliber Minie ball. Note curved hammer and conventional priming.
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A Union soldier with M1861 musket on a rail flatcar, transporting artillery.

Percussion Cap Muskets

Various percussion cap muskets are seen during the events in Harper's Ferry and the Battle of Fort Sumter. Nearly all scenes are set in darkness so positive identification is impossible. Springfield Model 1842 and Springfield Models 1855 or 1861 are possible guesses.

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For comparison: Springfield Model 1842 - .69 Smoothbore
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For comparison: Springfield Model 1855 - .58 caliber Minie ball. Note maynard tape priper and patchbox.
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Virginian militia fire at John Brown's men. They use both percussion cap and flintlock muskets; a small flash of the percussion cap lock is seen in center while a much larger flash of a flintlock is seen to the right.
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Soldiers with muskets.
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Soldiers with muskets.
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A closer view of a soldier's musket.
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Muskets with bayonets in hands of Virginian militia.
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A sentry in Fort Sumter holds a musket with socket bayonet.
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South Carolina militia with muskets during the battle of Fort Sumter.

Flintlock Muskets

During the American-Mexican war both sides use Flintlock Muskets. Flintlock guns, together with percussion cap ones, are also seen in hands of Virginian militia.

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For comparison: Springfield Model 1840 flintlock musket - .69 Smoothbore
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A flintlock musket, possibly a Springfield Model 1840 is seen in hands of a US Army soldier (in center) during the Battle of Churubusco.
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Mexican soldiers in attack. They are armed with a mix of flintlock and percussion cap muskets.
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A Mexican soldier at the right aims a flintlock musket.
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US Army soldiers march on the streets of Mexico Sity. They carry flintlock and percussion cap muskets.
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Virginian militia fire at John Brown's men. A large flash on a lock allows to identify a musket at the far right as a flintlock.

Shotguns

Double Barreled Percussion Shotgun

In the scene in Stag Tavern when Charles Main gets into a fight with Salem Jones, the bar owner Burnes (Ronnie Stutes) takes a Percussion Shotgun, stops the fight and drives away Jones and his cronies.

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Double Barreled Percussion Shotgun - 10 gauge
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Burnes with a shotgun. The shotgun doesn't look as top-break weapon, so it is most likely a muzzleloading percussion cap gun.

Double Barreled Shotgun

Double Barreled Shotguns are seen in hands of Charles Main (Lewis Smith) when he meets Justin LaMotte (David Carradine) at the entrance of Main estate, and of George Hazard (James Read) and Orry Main (Patrick Swayze), facing off against the lynch mob.

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J. Stevens and Company Side by Side Shotgun (Circa 1878) exposed hammers and designed to fire Black Powder shotgun shells - 12 gauge. Used here as an example of exposed hammers shotgun.
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Charles Main meets Justin LaMotte with a shotgun in hands.
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Another view of Charles Main with a shotgun.
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A manservant in Main estate also holds a shotgun in said scene.
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Charles confiscates LaMotte's Colt 1851 Navy revolver and permits him to enter.
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George and Orry take shotguns to counter the mob.
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Two men with shotguns.
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Orry with a shotgun.
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George with a shotgun.

Trivia

Field Cannons

Numerous artillery piecies are seen during the American-Mexican war, in West Point Academy and in Fort Sumter.

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12-pounder smoothbore cannon
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A 10 lb. Parrott Rifle used in an American Civil War reenactment
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Field cannons in West Point. These artillery piecies are supposed to be replicas of M1857 12-Pounder "Napoleon".
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Mexican field artillery in the Battle of Churubusco.
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One scene, depicting Mexican artillery, is colorised radically different and most likely is taken from some earlier movie.
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A small artillery piece, possibly a mountain howitzer, in West Point.
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A 10 lb. Parrot Rifle in Union field camp.

Heavy Cannons

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Heavy cannons in Fort Sumter.
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A heavy cannon is seen at the background. Possibly this a modern replica of a Rodman gun.
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Southern siege artillery bombards Fort Sumter. The gun seems to be a modern replica of 10-inch Columbiad cannon.