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I do like the "artsy" look of the guns. the make the more individual to the owner | I do like the "artsy" look of the guns. the make the more individual to the owner | ||
==Note== | |||
Talky bits from the main page were either merged into the descriptions or moved here. [[User:Chef Brian|<span style="font-size:9pt;color: #F40;background:#169;border:2px solid #333">'''Chef Brian'''</span>]][[User talk:Chef Brian|<sub style="font-size: 9pt;color:#169">''Hello!''</sub>]] | |||
==Walther P-5C discussion== | |||
It's actually a P5C, the compact version, which has a spurred hammer and shorter barrel. | |||
If you look at the third screen of Williem Dafoe in [[The Boondock Saints]] you can see the same gold pin clearly visible in the only shot with Claire Danes on this page. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] | |||
==P-13== | |||
.45 double stack commander size with 13 rd magazine | |||
==PT99== | |||
Looks to me it is indeed a pt99. Note, however, that it has a much longer barrel and slide. Any notes on that?? | |||
If you look closer you can see what looks like the original slide covered in an over sized shroud to give it a longer look. | |||
:Yeah, the slide and barrel on Benvolio's PT99 were chopped, and then extended. If you look closely, you can actually see flaws in the quality of the finish that indicate where the slide was cut, welded back together, and then sanded down. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 15 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Fake MP5== | |||
This looks like a Daisy MP5K replica airsoft guns. Note the foregrip appears to be a spring pump action design. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | |||
==MP5A2s & A3s== | |||
These are actually Heckler & Koch HK94s that have been chopped and converted to resemble MP5s. Note the lack of barrel lugs. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | |||
== Tybalt's "middle finger shooting" == | |||
I've heard that there actually is a use for shooting with your middle finger and not your index finger, and it would make sense with Tybalt's combat style. From what I've heard, it's used when point shooting (ie; not actually aiming down the sights), as it allows you to extend your index finger along the frame of the gun and 'point' at where you want to shoot. Since Tybalt occasionally uses his guns akimbo, and while essentially dancing, this seems like it would actually be a smart move on his part. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 03:29, 3 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Shooting with your middle finger would work...if you have six fingers. If you move your hand up a finger and shooting one handed, you would have a poor grip on the gun, you'd have no trigger control because your middle finger would naturally wrap around the gun while the index finger does nothing but "point". And when you have finger off the trigger, as I've tried, you would have a problem holding the gun one handed. Since your middle finger is the longest finger, if you aren't used to it, or in the case of a small trigger guard, getting your middle finger in there is easy, but getting it out would be a chore. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
If you fired a gun like that, your finger would get cut or caught by the retracting slide. | |||
The most profficient and effective stance that a shooter can have will always be the weaver stance. Not thug, and not one handed. | |||
I think this was taught as a method for point shooting in the 1800s/early 1900s (Jack Ruby shot Oswald using this grip). The US Army manual for the 1911 explicitly points out that it shouldn't be done, but only due to the fact that the index finger running along the side of the frame can depress the protruding slide stop pin. The main reason this supposedly works is the pointing thing, but it also has something to do with the fact that as the middle finger is longer you can place the trigger further up the middle finger which makes for an easier trigger pull. The middle finger is also stronger with the tendons more in-line, but I would rather use this strength on the grip. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 02:33, 2 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Dagger 9mm == | |||
Not positive but I think the Dagger 9mm used by Mercutio doesn't have clear grips, I think it doesn't have grips at all. Looking closely at the last picture, I can't see any grips. --[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] ([[User talk:Westernman1987|talk]]) 10:36, 26 February 2015 (EST) | |||
:Or maybe a grip panel painted to look like exposed rounds? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:39, 27 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Judging by [https://gndn.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/randj2.jpg this picture], it looks to me as though the gun has no grips, and the sides of the magazine are cut away and replaced with some kind of glass. Also, while this gun looks awesome, I imagine shooting a pistol with no grips would cause discomfort to one's hand if firing live rounds (blanks, on the other hand, are probably another story). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 10:15, 1 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
==Blog with pics of screen-used guns== | |||
Found [https://gndn.wordpress.com/tag/romeo-juliet/ this] recently. It looks like the pistols were shown off at some sort of exhibition. I remember when I talked to Al Vrkljan at Movie Armaments Group (years ago now), he mentioned to me that they had been sold to a collector. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 10:03, 1 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 14:15, 1 August 2015
Does anyone have info about the guns in this movie?. I remember they were heavily modified with nickel & gold plated parts and had engraved patterns etc.
Sorry for my English!
Hello there! Im a Young Man from Switzerland. I look closely at the Weapons in this movie. They are very great modifyed! Maybe someone can translate it better an put it to the article. Thanks!
Tybalt's Gun:
Golden Barrel (extended and with compensator)
Golden Trigger, Hammer, safety, etc.
Grips "Holy maria with burning heart"
Mercutio's Gun:
Extended Barrel
Transparent Grips and
Transparent Magazines
I do like the "artsy" look of the guns. the make the more individual to the owner
Note
Talky bits from the main page were either merged into the descriptions or moved here. Chef BrianHello!
Walther P-5C discussion
It's actually a P5C, the compact version, which has a spurred hammer and shorter barrel.
If you look at the third screen of Williem Dafoe in The Boondock Saints you can see the same gold pin clearly visible in the only shot with Claire Danes on this page. - Charly Driver
P-13
.45 double stack commander size with 13 rd magazine
PT99
Looks to me it is indeed a pt99. Note, however, that it has a much longer barrel and slide. Any notes on that?? If you look closer you can see what looks like the original slide covered in an over sized shroud to give it a longer look.
- Yeah, the slide and barrel on Benvolio's PT99 were chopped, and then extended. If you look closely, you can actually see flaws in the quality of the finish that indicate where the slide was cut, welded back together, and then sanded down. -MT2008 23:55, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Fake MP5
This looks like a Daisy MP5K replica airsoft guns. Note the foregrip appears to be a spring pump action design. - Gunmaster45
MP5A2s & A3s
These are actually Heckler & Koch HK94s that have been chopped and converted to resemble MP5s. Note the lack of barrel lugs. - Gunmaster45
Tybalt's "middle finger shooting"
I've heard that there actually is a use for shooting with your middle finger and not your index finger, and it would make sense with Tybalt's combat style. From what I've heard, it's used when point shooting (ie; not actually aiming down the sights), as it allows you to extend your index finger along the frame of the gun and 'point' at where you want to shoot. Since Tybalt occasionally uses his guns akimbo, and while essentially dancing, this seems like it would actually be a smart move on his part. Acora 03:29, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Shooting with your middle finger would work...if you have six fingers. If you move your hand up a finger and shooting one handed, you would have a poor grip on the gun, you'd have no trigger control because your middle finger would naturally wrap around the gun while the index finger does nothing but "point". And when you have finger off the trigger, as I've tried, you would have a problem holding the gun one handed. Since your middle finger is the longest finger, if you aren't used to it, or in the case of a small trigger guard, getting your middle finger in there is easy, but getting it out would be a chore. Excalibur01 20:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
If you fired a gun like that, your finger would get cut or caught by the retracting slide. The most profficient and effective stance that a shooter can have will always be the weaver stance. Not thug, and not one handed.
I think this was taught as a method for point shooting in the 1800s/early 1900s (Jack Ruby shot Oswald using this grip). The US Army manual for the 1911 explicitly points out that it shouldn't be done, but only due to the fact that the index finger running along the side of the frame can depress the protruding slide stop pin. The main reason this supposedly works is the pointing thing, but it also has something to do with the fact that as the middle finger is longer you can place the trigger further up the middle finger which makes for an easier trigger pull. The middle finger is also stronger with the tendons more in-line, but I would rather use this strength on the grip. --commando552 02:33, 2 April 2012 (CDT)
Dagger 9mm
Not positive but I think the Dagger 9mm used by Mercutio doesn't have clear grips, I think it doesn't have grips at all. Looking closely at the last picture, I can't see any grips. --Westernman1987 (talk) 10:36, 26 February 2015 (EST)
- Or maybe a grip panel painted to look like exposed rounds? --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:39, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
- Judging by this picture, it looks to me as though the gun has no grips, and the sides of the magazine are cut away and replaced with some kind of glass. Also, while this gun looks awesome, I imagine shooting a pistol with no grips would cause discomfort to one's hand if firing live rounds (blanks, on the other hand, are probably another story). -MT2008 (talk) 10:15, 1 August 2015 (EDT)
Blog with pics of screen-used guns
Found this recently. It looks like the pistols were shown off at some sort of exhibition. I remember when I talked to Al Vrkljan at Movie Armaments Group (years ago now), he mentioned to me that they had been sold to a collector. -MT2008 (talk) 10:03, 1 August 2015 (EDT)