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[[Image:tur3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k "Kriegsmodell" with Zeiss ZF42 scope and hooded front sight - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:tur3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k "Kriegsmodell" with Zeiss ZF42 scope and hooded front sight - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[Image:Kar98kWithZF4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k with ZF4 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:Kar98kWithZF4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k with ZF4 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[Image:Karabiner 98k made in Czechoslovakia 530.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k made in Czechoslovakia (aka Czech Mauser)- 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:Karabiner 98k made in Czechoslovakia 530.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k made in Czechoslovakia (aka Czech Mauser)- 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[Image:KaribinerSporter.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k Sporter - 7.92x57mm]] | [[Image:KaribinerSporter.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k Sporter - 7.92x57mm]] | ||
[[File:Mauser 98K with bayonet.jpg|thumb|none|501px|Karabiner 98k with bayonet - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[File:K98kdow.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k with "dow" scope and hooded front sight - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[File:98K rifle hooded front sight late model.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k with hooded front sight and no cleaning rod visible - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[File:Karabiner 98k Schiessbecher grenade launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k with loaded ''[[Schiessbecher]]'' grenade launcher - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[File:Gewehrgranatgerat 41.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k with ''[[Gewehrgranatengerät#Schiessbecher_grenade_launcher|Schiessbecher grenade launcher]]'' - 7.92x57mm Mauser / 30x250 mm]] | |||
[[File:Kar98k with GGP40.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k with ''[[Gewehrgranatengerät#Gewehr-Granatpatrone_40|Gewehr-Granatpatrone 40]]'' grenade launcher - 7.92x57mm Mauser / 35 mm]] | |||
[[file:Kar98k trench.jpeg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k with MG13 magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[file:G40K Mauser.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mauser G40K - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
=Discussion= | |||
If you are going to include "National" variants, you are going to have a very long list. Look at a copy of W. D. Ball's book "Military Mauser Rifles of the world" and you will see there is hardly a country that didn't make or use a Mauser rifle at some point in the last 120 years. After WW1, Mauser tooling was given to countries in war reparations and these countries started making their own variants (Belgium, Poland, Czechoslovakia, among others). Others bought the tooling from Mauser and this was set up with German assistance (China and Yugoslavia). The Czech Mauser Rifles are highly regarded for their quality. The Yugoslav M48s are popular because most were placed into storage unused, so they are effectively brand new. ''Wraith'' | If you are going to include "National" variants, you are going to have a very long list. Look at a copy of W. D. Ball's book "Military Mauser Rifles of the world" and you will see there is hardly a country that didn't make or use a Mauser rifle at some point in the last 120 years. After WW1, Mauser tooling was given to countries in war reparations and these countries started making their own variants (Belgium, Poland, Czechoslovakia, among others). Others bought the tooling from Mauser and this was set up with German assistance (China and Yugoslavia). The Czech Mauser Rifles are highly regarded for their quality. The Yugoslav M48s are popular because most were placed into storage unused, so they are effectively brand new. ''Wraith'' | ||
=="Sporter" Belongs on Gewehr 98 Page== | |||
The alleged Karabiner 98k Sporter in 7.92x57mm IS is actually a Waffenfrankonia Würzburg Gewehr 98 Sporter in .30-06 made some time between 1945 and 1951 for an American soldier. I know this because it is my rifle. The receiver is ex-Gewehr 98 and the barrel is Böhler-Stahl, zeroed to 100 yards. However, beyond the preliminary and final nitro proofs, it has no date or anything. These rifles could be purchased by Allied Occupation troops for about a case of cigarettes and are referred to as "cigarette sporters" or "cigarette rifles". I'm not sure where it was proofed, but it's made in the style of the old Suhl and Zella-Mehlis pre-WWII sporters typically based on Gewehr 98 actions and chambered for 7.92x60I or IS. The bolt itself is specially bent and filed on the handle, likely beginning life as a straight bolt. It would be nice to see this rifle on the Gewehr 98 page, but it's misplaced here. The Karabiner 98k Sporter that ''Wraith'' shows is far more appropriate for a commercial rifle that began life as a Karabiner 98k. ''Dalkowski110'' | |||
Latest revision as of 07:56, 1 August 2023
Additional Variants
Discussion
If you are going to include "National" variants, you are going to have a very long list. Look at a copy of W. D. Ball's book "Military Mauser Rifles of the world" and you will see there is hardly a country that didn't make or use a Mauser rifle at some point in the last 120 years. After WW1, Mauser tooling was given to countries in war reparations and these countries started making their own variants (Belgium, Poland, Czechoslovakia, among others). Others bought the tooling from Mauser and this was set up with German assistance (China and Yugoslavia). The Czech Mauser Rifles are highly regarded for their quality. The Yugoslav M48s are popular because most were placed into storage unused, so they are effectively brand new. Wraith
"Sporter" Belongs on Gewehr 98 Page
The alleged Karabiner 98k Sporter in 7.92x57mm IS is actually a Waffenfrankonia Würzburg Gewehr 98 Sporter in .30-06 made some time between 1945 and 1951 for an American soldier. I know this because it is my rifle. The receiver is ex-Gewehr 98 and the barrel is Böhler-Stahl, zeroed to 100 yards. However, beyond the preliminary and final nitro proofs, it has no date or anything. These rifles could be purchased by Allied Occupation troops for about a case of cigarettes and are referred to as "cigarette sporters" or "cigarette rifles". I'm not sure where it was proofed, but it's made in the style of the old Suhl and Zella-Mehlis pre-WWII sporters typically based on Gewehr 98 actions and chambered for 7.92x60I or IS. The bolt itself is specially bent and filed on the handle, likely beginning life as a straight bolt. It would be nice to see this rifle on the Gewehr 98 page, but it's misplaced here. The Karabiner 98k Sporter that Wraith shows is far more appropriate for a commercial rifle that began life as a Karabiner 98k. Dalkowski110