Berthier Rifles - Revision history

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Fusil Modèle 1907-15 Rifle

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	[[Image:Fusil Mle 1907-15.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Fusil Berthier Modèle 1907/15 - 8x50mmR Lebel]]		[[Image:Fusil Mle 1907-15.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Fusil Berthier Modèle 1907/15 - 8x50mmR Lebel]]

	At the start of the war, the state arms factories were unable to restart Lebel production, as the majority of machine tools had been converted for other uses. The remaining machine tools in Tulle were barely sufficient to ensure the repair of weapons returning from the battlefield. It was therefore decided to undertake the large-scale manufacture of a rifle based on the Mle. 1907.		At the start of the war, the state arms factories were unable to restart Lebel production, as the majority of machine tools had been converted for other uses. The remaining machine tools in Tulle were barely sufficient to ensure the repair of weapons returning from the battlefield. It was therefore decided to undertake the large-scale manufacture of a rifle based on the Mle. 1907.

	In 1915, this rifle was officially adopted by the Ministry of War~~. It~~ was given the name '''''Fusil Mle. 1907 modifié 1915''''' or '''''07/15''''' and gradually replaced the Lebel.		In 1915, this rifle was officially adopted by the Ministry of War and was given the name '''''Fusil Mle. 1907 modifié 1915''''' or '''''07/15''''' and gradually replaced the Lebel. It has simplified sights, a straight bolt, and retained the Lebel bayonet lug, for using the 1886/93 ''Rosalie'' bayonet.

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	The '''Berthier Rifles and Carbines''' were a family of bolt-action small arms in 8 x 50R mm Lebel, used in the French Army from the 1890s to the beginning of World War II and by some French law enforcement units until the 1970s. Developed from the cavalry and artillery carbines issued in 1890-92, known as the "mousquetons Berthier", two full-length Berthier rifle models had already been introduced before World War I. They were the ~~fusil~~ Mle 1902 and ~~fusil~~ Mle 1907 which were issued to Indochinese and Senegalese Tirailleur troops. During World War I, a modified version of the Mle 1907 rifle called Fusil Mle 1907-15 was manufactured in very large numbers for issue to French Colonial troops, French Foreign Legion and Allied troops during the war. It also was issued to regular French troops due to the shortage of [[Lebel 1886\|Lebel Model 1886 rifle]] during World War I. The Fusil Mle 1907-15 was manufactured in at four locations the French arsenals [[Manufacture d'armes de Saint-Étienne]] and Chatellerault. Also by private companies Delaunay-Belleville, Continsouza, and [[Remington]] UMC. Due to the small 3rd magazine capacity of the Berthier Mle 1907-15 to be a major disadvantage, that led to the introduction of a 5-round magazine Berthier Fusil Mle 1907-15 ~~M16~~. It was manufactured beginning in 1890 until 1918. The total number of Berthier rifles manufactured was 435,000 units. In 1930s about 80,000 of them were converted for using a new 7.5 mm cartridge; this version is known as Mle 1907-15 ~~M34~~.		The '''Berthier Rifles and Carbines''' were a family of bolt-action small arms in 8 x 50R mm Lebel, used in the French Army from the 1890s to the beginning of World War II and by some French law enforcement units until the 1970s. Developed from the cavalry and artillery carbines issued in 1890-92, known as the "mousquetons Berthier", two full-length Berthier rifle models had already been introduced before World War I. They were the Fusil Mle. 1902 and Mle. 1907 which were issued to Indochinese and Senegalese Tirailleur troops. During World War I, a modified version of the Mle. 1907 rifle called Fusil Mle. 1907/15 was manufactured in very large numbers for issue to French Colonial troops, French Foreign Legion, and Allied troops during the war. It also was issued to regular French troops due to the shortage of [[Lebel 1886\|Lebel Model 1886 rifle]] during World War I. The Fusil Mle. 1907/15 was manufactured in at four locations the French arsenals [[Manufacture d'armes de Saint-Étienne]] and Chatellerault. Also by private companies Delaunay-Belleville, Continsouza, and [[Remington]] UMC. Due to the small 3rd magazine capacity of the Berthier Mle. 1907/15 to be a major disadvantage, that led to the introduction of a 5-round magazine Berthier Fusil Mle. 1907/15 M.16. It was manufactured beginning in 1890 until 1918. The total number of Berthier rifles manufactured was 435,000 units. In the 1930s about 80,000 of them were converted for using a new 7.5 mm cartridge; this version is known as Mle. 1907/15 M.34.

	===Specifications===		===Specifications===
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	'''Type:''' Rifle		'''Type:''' Rifle

	'''Caliber:''' 8x50R mm; 7.5x54 mm (Mle 1907-15 M34)		'''Caliber:''' 8x50R mm; 7.5x54 mm (Mle. 1907/15 M34)

	'''Capacity:''' 3,5 rounds		'''Capacity:''' 3,5 rounds
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	[[Image:Berthier Artillery Carbine Mle 1892.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Mousqueton d’Artillerie Modèle 1892 - 8x50mmR Lebel]]		[[Image:Berthier Artillery Carbine Mle 1892.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Mousqueton d’Artillerie Modèle 1892 - 8x50mmR Lebel]]

	The '''''Mousqueton d’Artillerie Modèle 1892''''' differs essentially from the gendarmerie carbine in that the Mle 1892 bayonet saber is more a tool than a weapon. A saber bayonet is a bayonet with a blade that can be used as a machete.		The '''''Mousqueton d’Artillerie Modèle 1892''''' differs essentially from the gendarmerie carbine in that the Mle. 1892 bayonet saber is more a tool than a weapon. A saber bayonet is a bayonet with a blade that can be used as a machete.

	It is a short, stocky weapon, but easy to use. The Berthier Mousqueton was appreciated by soldiers for its compactness in the trenches, and was also popular for its virile recoil, giving the shooter an impression of power.		It is a short, stocky weapon, but easy to use. The Berthier Mousqueton was appreciated by soldiers for its compactness in the trenches, and was also popular for its virile recoil, giving the shooter an impression of power.
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	\| ''[[Rainbow Six Siege]]'' \|\| \|\|Unusable; seen on background \|\| 2015		\| ''[[Rainbow Six Siege]]'' \|\| \|\|Unusable; seen on background \|\| 2015
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	\| ''[[Hunt: Showdown]]'' \|\| Berthier Mle 1892 \|\|Added in Update 1.7 (2021) \|\| 2018		\| ''[[Hunt: Showdown]]'' \|\| Berthier "Mle 1892" \|\|Added in Update 1.7 (2021) \|\| 2018
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	The equipment of the Indochinese riflemen was not the responsibility of the Ministry of War but of the Ministry of Colonies. Consequently, Indochinese riflemen were not equipped with [[Lebel 1886]] rifles. With a relatively small budget, the Ministry of Colonies recovered a large number of [[Gras Model 1874]] rifles and carbines. In 1901, Paul Doumer, Governor of Indochina, asked for a study of a short rifle for the Indochinese, who were small in stature.		The equipment of the Indochinese riflemen was not the responsibility of the Ministry of War but of the Ministry of Colonies. Consequently, Indochinese riflemen were not equipped with [[Lebel 1886]] rifles. With a relatively small budget, the Ministry of Colonies recovered a large number of [[Gras Model 1874]] rifles and carbines. In 1901, Paul Doumer, Governor of Indochina, asked for a study of a short rifle for the Indochinese, who were small in stature.

	The ''Comité Technique de l'Artillerie'' proposed two types of rifle, "lengthened" versions of the Mle 1890 gendarmerie rifle, the longer of which was adopted, and an order for 10,000 was placed with the Manufacture d'Armes de Châtellerault. A second order for 14,000 was subsequently placed. Schneider also purchased 10,000 of the rifles to fulfill an arms contract with Persia in 1908.		The ''Comité Technique de l'Artillerie'' proposed two types of rifle, "lengthened" versions of the Mle. 1890 gendarmerie rifle, the longer of which was adopted, and an order for 10,000 was placed with the Manufacture d'Armes de Châtellerault. A second order for 14,000 was subsequently placed. Schneider also purchased 10,000 of the rifles to fulfill an arms contract with Persia in 1908.

	A new order for 25,000 examples of the 1902 model with the M.16 modification was placed in 1920.		A new order for 25,000 examples of the 1902 model with the M.16 modification was placed in 1920.
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	[[Image:Fusil Mle 1907-15.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Fusil Berthier Modèle 1907/15 - 8x50mmR Lebel]]		[[Image:Fusil Mle 1907-15.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Fusil Berthier Modèle 1907/15 - 8x50mmR Lebel]]

	At the start of the war, the state arms factories were unable to restart Lebel production, as the majority of machine tools had been converted for other uses. The remaining machine tools in Tulle were barely sufficient to ensure the repair of weapons returning from the battlefield. It was therefore decided to undertake the large-scale manufacture of a rifle based on the Mle 1907.		At the start of the war, the state arms factories were unable to restart Lebel production, as the majority of machine tools had been converted for other uses. The remaining machine tools in Tulle were barely sufficient to ensure the repair of weapons returning from the battlefield. It was therefore decided to undertake the large-scale manufacture of a rifle based on the Mle. 1907.

	In 1915, this rifle was officially adopted by the Ministry of War. It was given the name '''''Fusil Mle 1907 modifié 1915''''' or '''''07/15''''' and gradually replaced the Lebel.		In 1915, this rifle was officially adopted by the Ministry of War. It was given the name '''''Fusil Mle. 1907 modifié 1915''''' or '''''07/15''''' and gradually replaced the Lebel.

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	==Fusil Modèle 1916 Carabine==		==Fusil Modèle 1916 Carabine==
	[[Image:Bert-c92 70.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Mousqueton ~~Mle.~~ 1892 Modifié 1916 - 8x50mmR Lebel]]		[[Image:Bert-c92 70.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Mousqueton Modèle 1892 Modifié 1916 - 8x50mmR Lebel]]

	The '''''Mousqueton Mle. 1892 Modifié 1916''''' (also called ''Carabine Berthier modèle 1916'') was a modification of the ''Mousqueton d'Artillerie Modèle 1892'', newly stocked and equipped with a Mannlicher magazine system for a 5-round loading clip.		The '''''Mousqueton Mle. 1892 Modifié 1916''''' (also called ''Carabine Berthier modèle 1916'') was a modification of the ''Mousqueton d'Artillerie Modèle 1892'', newly stocked and equipped with a Mannlicher magazine system for a 5-round loading clip.
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	\| ''[[Forgotten Hope 2]]'' \|\| "Mousqueton Berthier Mle 16" \|\| Added in v2.6 (2022) \|\| 2007		\| ''[[Forgotten Hope 2]]'' \|\| "Mousqueton Berthier Mle 16" \|\| Added in v2.6 (2022) \|\| 2007
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	\| ''[[Verdun]]'' \|\| ""Mousqueton Mle. 1892 M16 Berthier" " \|\| \|\| 2015		\| ''[[Verdun]]'' \|\| "Mousqueton Mle. 1892 M16 Berthier" \|\| \|\| 2015
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	\| ''[[Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades]]'' \|\| ~~“Berthier Carbine”~~\|\| \|\|2016		\| ''[[Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades]]'' \|\| "Berthier Carbine" \|\| \|\|2016
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	\| ''[[Post Scriptum]]'' \|\| \|\| Introduced in ''Plan Jaune'' update \|\| 2018		\| ''[[Post Scriptum]]'' \|\| "Berthier Mle. 1892 M16 M." \|\| Introduced in ''Plan Jaune'' update \|\| 2018
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	==Fusil Modèle 1907-15 M34 Rifle==		==Fusil Modèle 1907-15 M34 Rifle==
	[[File:Berthier 1907-15-M34.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Berthier Mle 1907-15 ~~M34~~ - 7.5x54mm MAS]]		[[File:Berthier 1907-15-M34.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Berthier Mle. 1907/15 M.34 - 7.5x54mm MAS]]
	After the [[Lebel 1886\|Lebel M1886/93/27]] was deemed a failure, a very similar conversion was developed based on more suitable Berthier rifles. Since the fundamentally new [[MAS-36]] was adopted shortly after, about 80,000 of M34s were produced before they were discontinued.		After the [[Lebel 1886\|Lebel M1886/93/27]] was deemed a failure, a very similar conversion was developed based on more suitable Berthier rifles. Since the fundamentally new [[MAS-36]] was adopted shortly after, about 80,000 of M34s were produced before they were discontinued.

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	The '''Berthier Rifles and Carbines''' were a family of bolt-action small arms in 8 x 50R mm Lebel, used in the French Army from the ~~1890's~~ to the beginning of World War II and by some French law enforcement units until the ~~1970's~~. Developed from the cavalry and artillery carbines issued in 1890-92, known as the "mousquetons Berthier", two full-length Berthier rifle models had already been introduced before World War I. They were the fusil Mle 1902 and fusil Mle 1907 which were issued to Indochinese and Senegalese Tirailleur troops. During World War I, a modified version of the Mle 1907 rifle called Fusil Mle 1907-15 was manufactured in very large numbers for issue to French Colonial troops, French Foreign Legion and Allied troops during the war. It also was issued to regular French troops due to the shortage of [[Lebel 1886\|Lebel Model 1886 rifle]] during World War I. The Fusil Mle 1907-15 was manufactured in at four locations the French arsenals [[Manufacture d'armes de Saint-Étienne]] and Chatellerault. Also by private companies Delaunay-Belleville, Continsouza, and [[Remington]] UMC. Due to the small 3rd magazine capacity of the Berthier Mle 1907-15 to be a major disadvantage, that led to the introduction of a 5-round magazine Berthier Fusil Mle 1907-15 M16. It was manufactured beginning in 1890 until 1918. The total number of Berthier rifles manufactured was 435,000 units. In 1930s about 80,000 of them were converted for using a new 7.5 mm cartridge; this version is known as Mle 1907-15 M34.		The '''Berthier Rifles and Carbines''' were a family of bolt-action small arms in 8 x 50R mm Lebel, used in the French Army from the 1890s to the beginning of World War II and by some French law enforcement units until the 1970s. Developed from the cavalry and artillery carbines issued in 1890-92, known as the "mousquetons Berthier", two full-length Berthier rifle models had already been introduced before World War I. They were the fusil Mle 1902 and fusil Mle 1907 which were issued to Indochinese and Senegalese Tirailleur troops. During World War I, a modified version of the Mle 1907 rifle called Fusil Mle 1907-15 was manufactured in very large numbers for issue to French Colonial troops, French Foreign Legion and Allied troops during the war. It also was issued to regular French troops due to the shortage of [[Lebel 1886\|Lebel Model 1886 rifle]] during World War I. The Fusil Mle 1907-15 was manufactured in at four locations the French arsenals [[Manufacture d'armes de Saint-Étienne]] and Chatellerault. Also by private companies Delaunay-Belleville, Continsouza, and [[Remington]] UMC. Due to the small 3rd magazine capacity of the Berthier Mle 1907-15 to be a major disadvantage, that led to the introduction of a 5-round magazine Berthier Fusil Mle 1907-15 M16. It was manufactured beginning in 1890 until 1918. The total number of Berthier rifles manufactured was 435,000 units. In 1930s about 80,000 of them were converted for using a new 7.5 mm cartridge; this version is known as Mle 1907-15 M34.

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