Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games - User contributions [en]

Talk:Stick

2015-12-27T01:51:20Z

Zenner22: /* Moke's Gun is a nickel S&W 29, not a 66 */ new section

==Please help ID==
Not sure what revolver this is. It appears to be a Colt of some kind. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 06:14, 20 March 2013 (EDT)
[[File:Stick 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:Stick 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:Maybe a [[Colt Lawman MK III]] snub? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 08:50, 20 March 2013 (EDT)
::I agree with Funkychinaman.It's wearing target grips, but it's a Lawman Mk III. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 08:56, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:Pix1088569531.jpg|400px|none|thumb| Colt Lawman Mk III snubnose - .357 magnum. 1st Generation. Exposed ejector rod (1973-1976)]]

== Moke's Gun is a nickel S&W 29, not a 66 ==

The size of the gun and the cylinder can clearly be seen in closeup at the pool scene. There are enough good shots of the size of the bore of that gun to see that it is a 44 Magnum model 29. This description should be changed.

--[[User:Zenner22|Zenner22]] ([[User talk:Zenner22|talk]]) 20:51, 26 December 2015 (EST)

Talk:The Following - Season 3

2015-06-07T02:31:18Z

Zenner22: Created page with "Ryan Hardy's gun - if you look closely the pistol he uses is thin, does not appear to be the doublestack M&P 9c he had last year. This year his gun looks more like the S&W Sh..."

Ryan Hardy's gun - if you look closely the pistol he uses is thin, does not appear to be the doublestack M&P 9c he had last year. This year his gun looks more like the S&W Shield, a thin single stack 9mm. --[[User:Zenner22|Zenner22]] ([[User talk:Zenner22|talk]]) 22:31, 6 June 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Blackhat

2015-05-13T02:00:29Z

Zenner22: /* US Marshall's 1911 */

== US Marshall's 1911 ==

I don't believe the 1911 the US Marshall used was a Springfield. I recall seeing vertical slide serrations, not slanted. To me the pistol looked like a basic Colt Government model with just a couple of tweaks to it, like some larger sights. We will see shortly as Blackhat will be out on Blu Ray in a couple weeks. Jury is still out on this one though. - zenner22
:The picture's caption says about you can see the Springfield logo, but I couldn't see any logo in the picture. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 18:09, 1 May 2015 (EDT)

I downloaded the movie and I'm finding there is no real good shot of that 1911. My original guess is wrong though, there are slanted serrations, no front serrations,and a beaver tail grip safety so it's not an old school Colt like I originally thought. The sights aren't the Novak style that come on Springfields. However in one angled shot it does look like the Springfield logo behind the ejection port. The original poster is probably close, it does appear to be a Springfield of some kind.--[[User:Zenner22|Zenner22]] ([[User talk:Zenner22|talk]]) 09:52, 5 May 2015 (EDT) zenner22

Watched the blu ray, more details are visible. Got to hand it to the original poster who identified this as a Springfield Armory, he is spot on. No idea how it was possible to tell without slo-mo but what a great catch! From what I saw - a Springfield Armory 1911, slanted serrations, Springfield logo behind the ejection port (few models have this), the words Springfield Armory underneath the ejection port. No front serrations. Aftermarket sights. Beavertail grip safety. The hammer did not look to be typical Springfield issue but I could be wrong. Not a parkerized finish, you can see some reflection of the gun in some shots. Absolutely no idea what model it is, very well could be a custom carry or a custom of some kind. Would love to know the details. Perhaps the original poster has some inside info...? --[[User:Zenner22|Zenner22]] ([[User talk:Zenner22|talk]]) 22:00, 12 May 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Blackhat

2015-05-05T13:52:21Z

Zenner22: /* US Marshall's 1911 */

Talk:Blackhat

2015-05-01T02:53:48Z

Zenner22: /* US Marshall's 1911 */ new section

Talk:The Spy Who Loved Me

2013-12-30T01:32:00Z

Zenner22: /* Dan Wesson Model 15 ? */

== Jaws' revolver in the car chase ==

Does this pic help?

http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/movies/tswlm.php3

Last picture on the page.--[[User:TheHeartbreakKid15|TheHeartbreakKid15]] 17:44, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

::Please also take into account Richard's hands are HUGE. I just shook the man's hands not ten hours ago ;) And they're gigantic! :) His hands are the only ones where a Desert Eagle .50 or a Mod 29 look tiny. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:49, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

No way! You met Richard Kiel?! Ugh, so jealous right now. My major claims to fame so far are working with Russell Crowe and meeting Cate Blanchett in Robin Hood. I might camp out in Barbara Broccolli's parking space at Pinewood and beg her for a part in the next Bond :P --[[User:TheHeartbreakKid15|TheHeartbreakKid15]] 20:35, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

:"NB! It is probably a S&W M14 or a Mahurin MR73 target model. The S&W M15 were only made with 2" or 4" before the 1980's. Also,the rear sight doesn't look like something out of the S&W factory,so my bet is on the MR73."

:Above taken from some guy called "Geeman" not knowing what the talk page is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:38, 28 August 2012 (CDT)

[[Image:Richard Kiel "Jaws" signed photo.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:TSWLM Jaws revovler.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Swlm-rev1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Jaws revolver could be an Weihrauch Arminius HW 9 .22lr like seen in this link. [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 18:29, 19 December 2012 (EST)
[[http://www.huntershouse.dk/images/sports/arminius/p7873,arminius-hw9.jpg]]

It is definitely not a .22. Look at third screencap, the holes in the cylinder are way too big. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:46, 17 February 2013 (EST)

== Mauser C96 - extended magazine? ==

Is there a model of the Mauser C96 that has an extended magazine? I just noticed that the gun in this photo has an extra long magazine. [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] 11:35, 18 July 2012 (CDT) [[Image:Swlm-c96.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jaws grabs a Mauser C96 from one of his henchmen to fire at Bond.]]

== Unknown Q Branch rifle ==

I'm having problems uploading the photo, but it's at 53:49 in the movie in the background if you want to check it yourself. It's a pistol grip rifle with all wooden furniture mounted on a tripod with a scope. The stock looks vaguely like an M1 Thompson stock with a different angle. There's a closer view less than a minute earlier as Q picks up the tea tray, but it's out of focus and a tech quickly spins the rifle so all you can see is the butt. It looks vaguely like a Gyrojet carbine, but it's got too long of a barrel, the pistol grip is at an angle, and the stock is somewhat different.[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:18, 2 January 2013 (EST)

:[[File:Spywholovedmeunknowntripodrifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:I have no idea what that weapon is. Dudester32 11:56, 19 March 2013 (EDT)
:The stock looks like its been mounted upside down! Dudester32 11:57, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

It is a rifle from the tv series UFO. The show had it's own pistols and rifles which didn't appear to use blanks.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:29, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

== Dan Wesson Model 15 ? ==

The revolver identified as a Dan Wesson Model 15 is clearly NOT that. A Dan Wesson has a barrel shroud which would be clearly visible in the picture showing the muzzle. This revolver is something else.

: The Dan Wesson model seen in the gun pic on the page doesn't have one. Is there any other revolver that looks like a Smith & Wesson that has a ribbed barrel other than the Dan Wesson? And sign your posts. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 20:33, 4 December 2013 (EST)

While not a Dan Wesson for certain, I'm guessing it may be a Llama 357 or 44. These were Spanish revolvers around in the 70s and 80s that had a vent rib and short barrel lug, S&W like. Not saying it is a Llama for sure, but I can't think right now of anything else that fits the description. As far as signing, I forgot I had to manually do that! Here we go - --[[User:Zenner22|Zenner22]] ([[User talk:Zenner22|talk]]) 20:31, 29 December 2013 (EST)

Talk:The Spy Who Loved Me

2013-12-04T17:08:45Z

Zenner22: /* Dan Wesson Model 15 ? */ new section

Talk:Red Heat

2013-12-04T15:55:18Z

Zenner22: /* Model 66 or 629? */

== Question about the Sleeve Device ==

If anyone can answer this, how does a sleeve device work? I've been wondering how he can pull the gun out from under his sleeve. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:Spring-loaded.-protoAuthor

== Model 66 or 629? ==
I moved this to the discussion page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

A Snubnosed [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]] with Pachmayr combat grips, is the sidearm of Chicago Police Detective Art Ridžić ([[James Belushi]]) in the movie.
[[Image:Smith-&-Wesson-686.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub with 2" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel66a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ridžić ([[Jim Belushi]]) takes aim at the Cleanhead Apartment with his Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub nose revolver - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel66Outside2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''''"You look like Marvin Hagler. I lost money on Hagler!!"''''' ]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel66StreetNighta.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ridžić ([[Jim Belushi]]) takes cover from a gun toting Rosta while holding his Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub nose revolver - .357 Magnum]]

- Looks too big to be a K-Frame S&W 66. You can also tell by the barrel and the subtle difference in the shape of the ejector shroud (compared to a 2.5" Model 66 barrel.) that it is probably an N-Frame 629 with 3" barrel in .44 Magnum. This makes sense if Belushi's character gives Arnie a full-sized Model 29. He probably really liked the "big" Magnums! - --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 20:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think you're on to something there!!!! :) Something to look into! I will try to find a 629 snubbie to photograph for comparison! THANKS! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:52, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I also believe it is a Smith & Wesson model 629 with a three inch barrel. Another possibility is the .44 Special N frame M624. However, I cannot see the typical barrel taper of the M624 in the pictures and the cylinder also seems to fill the frame almost completely. The model 624 features a slightly shorter cylinder, as the .44 Special rounds are shorter in length as well.
[[Image:RH-SW66-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
I took this screencap only to show the muzzle. Looks like a .357 to me not a .44. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:After comparing the 66 to the 629, I agree with Predator. This is definitely a model 66. 1) the muzzle is definitely that of a .357 revolver. 2) the barrel on Belushi's gun looks a bit too long to be a 629, but it looks EXACTLY like a model 66. The first shot is a dead giveaway. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 18:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:M6293.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

I would agree that in many of the shots it looks like a 629 with a 3inch barrel, they existed at the time, and in the first shots the barrel and the cylinder appear too large for a .357, the gun itself is too large as well. Belushi has large hands but that gun seems to dwarf them. In the final picture I could see how that is a .357, but the first shots are without a doubt a .44 [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 18:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

While in some of the shots the gun seems large. I don't think people realize that k-frames like the Model 66 or 19 are full size guns. A snub-nose Model 66 or 19 is not the same size as a j-frame Model 36. Here is a pic below for comparison. Now if the gun Belushi is using is an n-frame, I think it would be a Model 27 - .357 with a stainless finish. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:SW66vSW36.JPG||thumb|none|500px|SW66 v SW36]]

We understand perfectly, but the barrel size is just too large, I have rather large hands myself and I own a full size revolver, and my hands make that gun seem diminutive. My point is not that I think you are wrong with the muzzle shots, but the others that gun is too large.[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

I don't think Ridžić used the model 66. He definitely used a .44 Mag. He most likely used the S&W 629 3" barrel w/ different grips. He didnt use a .357 [[User:ErikSantiago|ErikSantiago]]

Belushi used a .357 Model 66 snub nose in the movie. He did not use a .44. For a good example, look at the size of the cylinder when he hands Schwarzenegger a real .44 Magnum in the car - it's huge! Definitely bigger than the gun Belushi uses. I think the confusion stems from one of the promotional materials included in the dvd where Belushi pulls out his .357 and calls it the "Magnum .44" for the interview in order to pump up the movie. It's a Model 66 .357. The page needs to be changed.

==Model 64 or 60?==
* Det. Sgt. Gallagher ([[Richard Bright]]) carries what looks like a S&W Model 10 snubnose, except in Stainless steel, which would make it the S&W Model 64.
:The cylinder looks like it only holds five shots, meaning it would be the Model 60 snub. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::It may be, but it also looks like a 6 shot to me. It's always hard since actors have different sized hands and this looks larger than a Model 60 to me. I will scroll through the film again and scan for better pics of the cylinder. -[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think its a Model 64. On a Model 60, when looking at the gun from the right side, you cannot see the ejector rod, but on a Model 64, you can. Notice how can most definitely see the ejector rod on Gallagher's gun. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 07:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Smith wesson 60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|You can't see the ejector rod here]]
[[Image:S&W64Snub.jpg|thumb|none|400px|You CAN see the ejector rod here]]
Actually, looking at it now, while you can see the ejector rod, the barrel on Gallagher's gun is a little too long to be a model 64. But it IS the right size for a nickel [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]], which also has the ejector rod exposed on the right side. That's definitely the gun that Gallagher uses. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 07:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:StainlessS&WModel36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The barrel is the right size and the ejector rod is exposed. This is definitely the right gun used]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel-64 2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Det. Sgt. Gallagher ([[Richard Bright]]) ready in the hallway with his S&W Model 64 - .38 spl.]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel-64 3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Det. Sgt. Gallagher ([[Richard Bright]]) makes an arrest with his S&W Model 64 - .38 spl]]

==Polish P-64==
The gun listed as a Hungarian FEG MAK380 used by a Russian police officer Yuri Ogarkov ([[Oleg Vidov]]) actually appears to be a polish gun called P-64.
[[Image:PolishP64.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Polish P-64 with spare magazine - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:RH-PolicePistol2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Danko's partner Yuri Ogarkov ([[Oleg Vidov]]) yells for Danko to follow him, with his P-64 - 9x18mm.]]
[[Image:RH-PolicePistol03a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Danko's partner Yuri Ogarkov ([[Oleg Vidov]]) chases Rosta with his Polish P-64 - 9x18mm.]]
[[Image:RH-PolicePistolFF05a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Danko's partner Yuri Ogarkov ([[Oleg Vidov]]) with his P-64 - 9x18mm.]]

==M1911A1 - Two Tone ==
:Based on the length of the slide and the ring hammer, I'd say it's a Commander. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

An American Carol

2011-06-30T23:33:22Z

Zenner22: /* Ruger Vaquero */

'''The following weapons were seen in the film ''An American Carol'':'''
[[Image:Americancarol.jpg|thumb|right|350px|''An American Carol'' (2008)]]
__TOC__<br clear="all">

== AKM ==
[[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] rifles are used by the Taliban operating in Afghanistan. Cuban soldiers in Michael Malone's ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) documentary "Die, You American Pigs" are also armed with AKM rifles.
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:AC-AKMAfghan01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|AKMs are seen carried by Taliban members.]]
[[Image:AC-AKMlineA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:AC-AKMsA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Cuban Soldiers carry AKMs as Michael Malone prepares to leave back for America. The soldier to the left is veteran stuntman [[Thomas Rosales Jr.]] of ''[[Predator 2]]'' fame.]]
[[Image:AC-POPE-AKa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) is interviewed by Bill O'Reilly, we see a graphic in the background with Pope Benedict XVI holding an AKM aloft.]]

==AKMS==
The AKMS is the folding stock variant of the AKM rifle. It is also seen used by Taliban members.
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:AC-AKMAfghan02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Aziz ([[Robert Davi]]) carries a folding stock AKMS as he tries to persuade "Terrorist on Bike" ([[Oren Rehany]]) to ride down the mountain with a bomb vest and no brakes.]]

==Romanian AIMS==
A Romanian AIMS (the side folding stock Romanian version of the AKM) is seen in a pile of training materials captured in Afghanistan.
[[Image:RomanianAIMS std.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AIMS - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:AC-AIMSa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|To the left is a Romanian AIMS Rifle with side folding stock]]

==Ruger Vaquero==
General George S. Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) carries a [[Ruger Vaquero]] revolver (impersonating a Colt Single Action Army) throughout the film, at one point contemplating shooting Michael Malone with it. The Ruger logo on the faux ivory grips is the giveaway.
[[Image:Ruger single six 32.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Ruger Vaquero - .45 LC.]]
[[Image:AC-PattonRevolverA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|General George S. Patton pulls out his Ruger Vaquero to shoot Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) but thinks better of it and puts it away - .45 LC]]
[[Image:AC-PattonSAAa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|General George S. Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) talks to Malone with his Ruger Vaquero in his holster - .45 LC]]
[[Image:AC-SAA-KhandaharA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|General George S. Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) takes Michael Malone to modern day Afghanistan, while holding his Ruger Vaquero aloft - 45 LC]]
[[Image:AC-RugerA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Ruger logo is visible on Patton's Revolver when he explains to Malone that if Abraham Lincoln did not fight the Civil War, slavery would not have been abolished.]]

That is definitely NOT a Ruger Vaquero. One of the shots clearly shows the firing pin on the hammer. Rugers do not have this. It is most likely a Colt.

==Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun==
General Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) and a group of World War II GIs fight off ACLU zombies with Winchester Model 1897 Trench guns.
[[Image:Winchester1897TrenchTakedown.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" - 12 gauge. This is an original mint condition 1935 Manufacture commercial trench gun by Winchester.]]
[[Image:AC-TrenchGunsA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:AC-TrenchLineupA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:AC-TrenchGuns02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:AC-WinchesterSubwayA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:AC-ShotgunsFireCourtroomA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Remington 870 ==
When the ACLU zombies are attacking people in court, the judge ([[Dennis Hopper]]) uses a [[Remington 870]] shotgun, handing one to Malone.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg |thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:AC-Rem870a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Judge ([[Dennis Hopper]]) shoots ACLU zombie lawyers with his Remington 870 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AC-8870FireA.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Judge ([[Dennis Hopper]]) fires his Remington 870 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AC-870RackbackFireA.jpg‎‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) accidentally fires his Remington 870 Shotgun when he slams it down on the bench, however the foregrip is at the rearward position, meaning that the rack is all the way back, thus firing would be impossible.]]

== M4 Carbine ==
When Michael and Patton travel to Afghanistan numerous American soldiers are seen armed with [[M16 rifle series|M4 Carbines]].
[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with 4 position collapsible stock 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:AC-M4sA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|American soldiers watch over enemy prisoners with M4 Carbines.]]

==M16A1==
During a country western music concert to benefit American troops, Michael Malone sees the ghosts of Servicemen past watching over their modern counterparts. Only Malone can see the spirits of the soldiers and sailors from previous American conflicts, none of the other concert goers can see them. One of the first armed 'ghosts' he sees is a Vietnam era soldier, holding an [[M16|M16A1]] rifle - 5.56x45mm
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:AC-M16A1a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

== M1 Carbine==
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Korean War veterans, holding post WW2 [[M1 Carbine|M1 Carbines]].
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Korean War Era [[M1 Carbine|M1 Carbine]], with Birch Stock, Adjustable sight, bayonet lug, and twin magazine pouch.]]
[[Image:AC-M1CarbinesKWa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

==M1 Garand==
During the same concert, Malone sees a single ghost of of a World War 2 Soldier, carrying an [[M1 Garand]] rifle.
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]]
[[Image:AC M1GarandA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

== M1903 Springfield ==
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two World War I era troops are seen with [[M1903 Springfield]] rifles. One seems to have a transitional pattern M1903 and the second ghost soldier holds an Mk1.
[[Image:M1903Mark1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06]]
[[Image:AC-WW1SoldiersA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Mauser Kar98k==
Mauser Kar98k rifles were seen slung over the shoulders of German soldiers in 1938 when Michael Malone was thrown out of the window of the infamous 1938 Munich Agreement (where British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain appeased Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany) by General Patton. Two Kar98ks were see resting on a German tank during the 1938 Munich agreement scenes.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:AC-HagoA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Two Mauser Kar98k rifles can be seen on the side of a German tank (in fact, the German tank is really a Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank).]]

==.577 Enfield Musket==
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Union soldiers from the American Civil War, both carry the .577 Enfield Musket (which was commonly used to supplement the 58 Springfield musket that was the issued long gun of the "blue coats").
[[Image:Enfield1853.jpg|thumb|none|600px|1853 Pattern .577 Enfield Musket - .577 cal ball]]
[[Image:AC-577-Enfield-Musket.jpg|thumb|none|600px|To the left of the screen we can see the pair of the Civil War Union Soldiers, one of them clearly, and he carries a .577 Enfield Musket - .577 cal ball]]

==1728 First Model Brown Bess==
Revolutionary war solders are seen at the end armed with 1728 British Land Pattern Musket aka the venerable "Brown Bess". These are the earliest models with the brass end cap and extended lock shape.
[[Image:BrownBessInfantry-Musket-1722-1768.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A modern reproduction "Long Land Pattern" Brown Bess Infantry musket made from 1722-1768 - .75 caliber.]]
[[Image:AC-RevWara.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|As the camera tracks to the right, we see the two Revolutionary War Soldiers wielding 1728 British Land Pattern Musket aka the venerable "Brown Bess".]]

==BGM 71 TOW Launcher==
A [[BGM 71 TOW Launcher]] is seen in the American military camp in Khandahar.
[[Image:AC-BGM-71-TOWa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Chinese Type 69 RPG==
A Taliban members is briefly seen in the background carrying a [[RPG-7|Chinese Type 69 Rocket Launcher]] - 40mm.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Chinese Type 69 RPG 40mm]]
[[Image:AC-RPGa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Gun Platforms==

===Type 95 Light Tank HA-GO===
When General Patton walks Malone down the street after the signing of the infamous '''Munich Agreement of 1938''', ''(where British PM Chamberlain all but capitulated to Adolf Hitler's demands)'', the pair walks past a series of armored vehicles and trucks being loaded by German troops. Incredibly, and rather anachronistically, there is an ultra rare '''Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank''' (called the "Ha-Go"), that was mostly seen in Manchuria. It sported a 37mm main gun and a 7.7mm machine gun. Why it is there in the background with an anachronistic German Iron Cross on the body is a good question.
[[Image:AC-IJATank2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Patton and Malone walk past an Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go" with a German Iron Cross emblem on the side of the body. The Paint job is a perfect copy of the correct early war Imperial Japanese camo scheme and we can see the external muffler of the Ha Go.]]
[[Image:AC-HagoA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank showing the 7.7mm secondary machine gun.]]

==Trivia==
===Inaccuracies regarding WW2 uniforms and conduct===
* Despite being a fantastical comedy / farce, the uniforms of the major dictators was unusual in that the color red was essentially 'de-saturated' from their clothing. Tojo's brown uniform was grey, and his red collar tabs were also grey. Hitler's Mustard brown coat also seem missing the red as well as the NSDAP arm band. Mussolini's arm patch would have red stripes, but it has grey ones. This 'could' have been an intentional choice to show that they are 'ghosts' of the past, but it is worth mentioning. As for the 'guards' or adjutants, German Heer or SS officers don't hold a posture like U.S. Marines, when at a meeting. When not 'at arms' (i.e. not wearing their belts and pistols or other military weapons) they would have their hats off and arms to the side.
[[Image:AC-WW2UniformsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The color is 'off' on the uniforms. Note that the Swastika arm bands have no 'red'.]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Comedy]]

Talk:Las Vegas (TV Series)

2010-08-08T01:30:22Z

Zenner22:

The pistol Tom Selleck carries could be a S&W 1911, but if so it is the Gunsite version of the pistol pictured. The gun does wear stag grips and it also sports the Gunsite raven logo behind the right rear slide serrations. The Gunsite 1911 is a slightly customized version of the pistol shown.

Talk:Las Vegas (TV Series)

2010-08-08T01:29:43Z

Zenner22: New page: The pistol Tom Selleck carries could be a S&W 1911, but if so it is the Gunsite version of the pistol pictured. The gun does wear stag grips and it also sports the Gunsite raven logo behin...

The pistol Tom Selleck carries could be a S&W 1911, but if so it is the Gunsite version of the pistol pictured. The gun does wear stag grips and it also sports the Gunsite raven logo behind the rear slide serrations. The Gunsite 1911 is a slightly customized version of the pistol shown.

Talk:Jesse Stone: Thin Ice

2010-08-08T01:19:30Z

Zenner22:

In the movie, he comments that its hard to work the safety since it is only on the left side of the gun. He comments that he doesn't like ambidextrous safeties because they are too easy to switch to "fire" on accident. The revolver would negate this.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 01:19, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Sure I agree, but I was just throwing ideas out. I really have no idea why they have him using the revolver except maybe as a throwdown piece. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:32, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

The pistols under the S&W 1911 heading are not a 5" 1911's. If you look at the bottom of the slide ahead of the dust cover compared the the pic of the 5", it is clearly a Commander length pistol. User:Captain America

Well they are SW1911. So if you have a picture of a SW1911 Commander feel free to post it. All imfdb has right now is pictures of the full length SW1911's. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

If the pistol Selleck uses as Jesse Stone is a S&W 1911, it is the S&W Gunsite version of this pistol. The Gunsite raven is clearly shown on the right side of the slide behind the rear slide serrations. The pistol also sports the Gunsite raven logo on the grips. The Gunsite pistol is a slightly customized version of the SC pictured.

Talk:Machete

2010-08-07T23:40:45Z

Zenner22:

I am not good at all with names. Be gentle [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 01:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Prop gun ==

It looks like underneath all that prop is some kind of AR-15 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm... my brother thinks it an Remington ACR. I think it looks like an insane prop Browing M1919 [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 02:22, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

::Definitely an AR-15.-protoAuthor 03:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

That is not a WALTHER P99!...come on! that is totally a Walther NightHawk on the table with all the toy junk on it.[[Spades of Columbia]]

Does this sight allow BB gun on the main page?

Definitely a BB gun. Here is a link to a "weapon" exactly the same as the one pictured. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:53, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

http://dvice.com/archives/2008/04/walther-nightha.php
Thank you for finding that, i was positive that was the NightHawk. [[Spades of Columbia]] 15 may 2010

==Lohans Revolver==
From the size and 5 chambered cylinder i'd say lohans revolver is a Smith n Wesson 500 - CaptainSnikt

It is a S&W 500. when they do the freeze frame on her there is a better view of it.[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

Oh yeah, when they freeze oh her licking it? Heh, I'm pretty sure i saw Don Johnson packing a 1911 variant - Captain Snikt

The engraved nickel 1911a1 doesn't need the last line implying a different frame from the stock gun. The Colts with the large roll mark saying MKIV Series 80 had the arched mainspring housing and short trigger exactly as this pistol appears. This is how the full size Colts were made in the 80s.

The CURRENT Colt Series 80s have the flat mainspring housing and the long trigger, I think that is where the confusion is coming from.

The pistol in the picture does not appear to be modified in any way (except for the engraving of course.) The last line in the description that says "''Though the slide is marked "MK IV Series 80", it appears to have been a standard M1911A1 frame''" should be deleted. This is a standard Colt Government Model made in the 1980s.

Talk:Payback

2010-07-22T01:16:54Z

Zenner22:

== Model 27 vs. Model 29 ==
[[Image:S&WRev.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 27 Snub nosed revolver with 3.5" barrel - .357 magnum.Note the shorter cylinder and the very visible forcing cone.Also note the tapered barrel]]
[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel.Note the larger cylinder and the heavy bull barrel.]]
[[Image:SmithWessonModel28-2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman with 4" bl.Note the dull blue finish]]
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a Smith & Wesson Model 29 from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.Edit: Note the brighter blue finish, the heavier barrel and the large cylinder that fills the frame.]]
[[Image:28top.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Smith & Wesson Model 28 topstrap]]
[[Image:Topstrap.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Smith & Wesson Model 27 topstrap. Note the checkering.]]

Notice the difference between the cylinders. The forcing cone is very visible on the Model 27. The cylinder is shorter on the Model 27 and the barrel has a distinct taper on the 27. It does appear that Gibson is using a Model 27 when he is shooting up into the Asian gang's vehicle but it's a Model 29 at the beginning of the movie.Now it could be argued that he's using a Model 28 since the 28 does have the plain top strap like the Model 29. But the Modell 28 is just a plain jane version of the Model 27 with a matte blue finish. All the other previously described features still apply.The revolver used by Porter (at least in the beginning) has a bright blue glossy finish. Another mark of the earlier Model 29 revolver. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 20:11, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

[[Image:PaybackS&W27-9.jpg]]
In this shot, note the diameter of the cylinder and bore. This is .357 without a doubt. So maybe both were used? This shot and the one in the hotel (where you can see hollowpoins) are my defenders on the ID. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:PaybackS&W27-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter shoots Val in Rosie's ([[Maria Bello]]) house.]]

I agree. But look at this screencap. That's a 44 diameter bore and a heavy bull barrel. No taper. Lets look at this another way. When he surpises the detectives he takes their revolvers. Is that Model 27 the revolver that he takes from Bill Duke's character? Does he pick up the Model 27/28 later on after he dumps the 29? --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:50, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Model 27 vs. model 28 ==

You're right. These two revolvers are pratical identical except for finish and the mark "Highway Patrolman" on the right side of the M28. But I think that the movie gun is an M27. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:I belive that it's a Model 27/28 that Gibson is using when he's shooting up into the carload of Asian gangbangers. The cylinders looks shorter and the barrel appears to have a distinctive taper. But it's a Model 29 that he buys from the pawnshop at the beginning of the movie. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::I agree with the M29 (I built the first version of the complete page I had chosen this revolver), I was talking of the gun scene of the Chinese gunfight. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

Then you and I are on the same sheet of music. Why don't you create another listing for the Model 27 for the sequence when Porter is shooting it out with the Asians? Seems only right that you should do it since you started the page. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:I ask sorry but I don't understand English very well, what do you mean to create another listing? - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

You have a category for the Model 29 in which there are screencaps of the Model 29 being used. You should go ahead and make another category or heading showing the Model 27/28 being used. That way the Model 27 will be on the Table of Contents.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

[[Image:S&WHP1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|S&W Model 27 with 4".]]
[[Image:Model28HP2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman with 4" bl.]]

== Background Check at pawn shop ==

this movie is loosely based on a book set in 1967, before the Gun Control Act of 1968. Therefore there is no background check and very little if any paperwork. Also there are some "shady" pawn shops that will sell a firearm with no paperwork because they know the weapon is hot or has a history. However this leads to the idea that the Beretta 92FS Val uses can't be used then since it wasn't manufactured at that time. He would be using a Beretta 951.

- Uh, there are several guns in this film that are newer than 1967. Whatever the book might say, this page is about the film, which clearly set in contemporary 1999. Your other explanation regarding a 'shady' pawn shop explains that point well enough by itself. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:55, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

:According to the commentary on the DVD the film was set essentially inside its own world with no clear date or location. The filmmakers intended the setting to have a 70s feel to it without explicitly placing it in the 70s, and were going for a New York style setting despite filming in Chicago with little attempt to disguise the fact. All the guns featured in the film, with a few exceptions, were available in the 70s or the first couple years of the 80s. Overall it is better not to sweat the small details and just enjoy the film (which is one of my personal favorites). -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== Headshot using pillow ==

I don't believe the pillow is to muffle the shot, but more to keep from getting splattered with blood and brains. I've done something similar when putting down hogs at my uncles farm, we'd throw a burlap bag over it before shooting it to keep from getting blood on our clothes.
::Not me. I use a pillow all the time to keep human brains and blood from splattering all over me. Don't we all?!?!?!?!

==Comments==
I think this article has improved greatly following the removal of many of the snarky comments about gun handling mistakes in the film. Just in case anyone was planning to replace them I though I'd post a statement by MoviePropMaster concerning this issue:

:''I recently had the unpleasant experience of having some of the performers being insulted in some of our movie pages see what some of the IMFDB members write. there are some pretty condescending remarks regarding horrible grips, gun stance, bad gun discipline and blinking while shooting. I'm trying to promote the website and it's embarrassing to see actors getting insulted for pretty trivial reasons. What are your thoughts regarding this?''

:See below:

:I'm asking all members to stop with the sarcastic comments in the screencap descriptions. Too many members feel it's funny to be extremely sarcastic about actor's shooting stance, their blinking, their pistol grips. Only if it's so over the top as for the average person to notice, then don't keep on harping on it. Most actors are given only a bare amount of time to train, if at all. Many times the editor picks the worst take for pistol grip, but best take for other reasons like acting. Also much of the blame falls on the director. Some directors don't want to be bothered trying to train the actors and don't allow us armorers to even give them more training than the minimum safety training. People in the industry check out this website, and some think we're a bunch of obnoxious kids. I am not happy when people in 'the biz' look at the site and scoff at the snarky remarks. Some of them are the actual actors being insulted. We can always put in criticism, but IMFDB members going forward going to criticize a film, should try to do so in a scholarly manner or not at all. Thanks for your cooperation MoviePropMaster2008 05:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

This particular article previously had derogatory comments accompanying nearly every screencap and the improvement since has been remarkable. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

It's still pretty bad, is it the place of contributors here to criticize the handling of the weapons by the actors? The constant childish mocking of the sideways grip is more embarrassing to see than the grip itsself. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] 06:01, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:Toadvine, did you see the article before? I was the one that removed most of the unnecessary comments, I left the "horrible gangsta grip", because that's what it is, horrible. I wouldn't call it constant either, looks to me like it's mentioned twice.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:24, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::Wow, we've clean up SO MUCH of the obnoxious commentary on IMFDB and this new member Toadvine is offended by what we have left. His brain would have exploded if he became a member of the site a year ago. :D For the record, I despise obnoxious commentary. Need I state that one of the strongest defenders of obnoxious commentary was himself an extremely obnoxious member whose maturity had to be called into consideration when contemplating his approval of insulting descriptions. Of course, now because of his example, I have no compunction about banning members who drop profanity laced tirades at the drop of a hat. We don't have to bear that for any reason. LOL I have become even less tolerant of jerk behavior. :) best regards to all and keep up the good work! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Who did you ban?

==Back to the revolver controversy.....==

I noticed while looking around that you guys were uncertain about which Smiths were used in the movie. First of all, a Model 27/28 was definitely used in a handful of shots, as you can clearly see the barrel taper. Second, judging by cylinder size, I think that every instance of a Smith without a taper (and those fancy wood finger groove grips) is a Model 19, not a Model 29. The gun just looks a bit to small to be an N Frame in the non-tapered pictures.

As far as the .44 diameter bore argument goes, I've got a Model 19 here and I can tell you, in certain light, the curve on the tip of the bore casts a shadow, making the bore look bigger than it is, so identifying the bore size on a blued Smith is a little tricky and can't really prove anything. I don't mean to be rude, just giving my two cents worth. [[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 22:23, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Who doesn't love a good controversy? I have to disagree with you. I don't believe it's a Model 19. The ejector rod housing on the N frame is heavier and thicker than the housing on the K frame Model 19. Of course that's just my opinion. However it's always fun to debate with another fan of revolvers. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I tell you what, I just took another look at it and the gun has a hammer spur seen on N frames, so it's more than likely a Model 25 or 29. [[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 05:15, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Could be a 29 or a 25. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

There was an article in Gun World magazine in the 90s called Shoot for Effect by John Fasano. Mr. Fasano is/was a screenwriter (Another 48 Hrs is mentioned in the article) as well as writing articles for gun magazines. This article was on Stembridge Gun Rentals and had a few pictures of the prop guns used in popular movies, for example - Pacino's Colt Officer's ACP in Heat, John Wayne's Colt and Winchester from Stagecoach as well as Mel Gibson's S&W Model 29 used in Payback. It's a closeup left side shot of the gun. The article is found in a downloadable pdf file on the net. Not sure if I'm allowed to post links on this site or not, or I would.