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&lt;div&gt;==Cease and Desist==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not contribute any further updates to ''Deadliest Warrior''. This article is currently under dispute regarding its legitimacy on this site. As such, all work on the article is hereby suspended. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hawaii Five-0==&lt;br /&gt;
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I appreciate your work on ''[[Hawaii Five-0]]'', but please make sure you're adding gun pictures and links whenever you add a new weapon to the page. You've added some new guns to the page that lack one or both of these. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please no PNG's. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We're not allowing PNG's now due to the files slowing down the loading of the page.  Please reload your screenshots as JPG's.   --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 06:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Ominae&amp;quot; declension ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't mean to pry, but I'm confused at your choice of screename:  &amp;quot;Omnis, -e&amp;quot; is Latin 3rd declension, and the 3rd declension never ends in &amp;quot;-ae&amp;quot; that's 1st declension.  http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/omnis  Romanes eunt domus?!  --[[User:V|V]] 22:46, 11 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Got a friend who said he use to work at GAINAX and helped with the character design. He said they planned to use a MK23 SOCOM at first to show that Misato is a gun nut. Maybe they just made a fictional .45 USP that &amp;quot;happens&amp;quot; to be real. Or maybe because of the flexibility of NGE(episodes made hastily before airing to suit oppinion or ideas), they gave Misato the &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; USP. This gun appears relatively late, so there is time for editing anyway.--[[User:Teslashark |Teslashark ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to question the credentials here, just to be sure. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Er...I'm sorry, but we need more proof than &amp;quot;I heard it from someone&amp;quot;.  Further...Misato's HK USP doesn't look &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot;, it looks entirely normal.--[[User:V|V]] 23:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's just say that Misato got a normal regular USP, but in the future, they make mags for it that is 18 rounds of 9mm. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*HALT!! HAMMERZEIT!! 9mm 18-round mags exist as the supplied mags for the USP Match and USP Expert in 9mm.  I have a PDF of the USP manual from before 2000 (when H&amp;amp;K was still selling the Match) that clearly says it.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 02:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, have the 18 round 9mm mags been around for 10 years because this anime was made in 1995? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, that I don't know.  I only know that they stopped making the Match in '99, and that the Expert (which came in '98) came after the Match.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 18:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can remember a revolver with a laser sight, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What Volume, which character?--![[User:V|V]] 23:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Vol. 8, Stage 55, a revolver with a laser sight is used in an assassination. Despite the laser sight, the character being shot chides the shooter for lousy aim before the killing blow is scored. To say anything about who it was used on or who was using it would be a major SPOILER. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 14:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Okay I checked that volume and I'm fairly sure it was a [[Ruger Security Six#Speed Six|Ruger Speed Six]] revolver, with an attached laser sight.  I don't think they let us talk about the manga on here.  Further, the manga is a separate continuity and has no real bearing on the show.  At any rate, the point was just to confirm to fans that the shooter was just some anonymous security agent sent by either Gendo or Seele; they *never* intended for us to start guessing it was any of the named cast members, it wasn't even supposed to be a mystery.  I.e. the director's cuts tried to emphasize this more.  So years later when working on the manga, Sadamoto made it a point to actually show the gun that was fired, for the effect of &amp;quot;oh look, its not like the guns that any of the other characters use, its not anyone we knew&amp;quot;.  --[[User:V|V]] 00:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yep, but it's still strange to me that the weapon wasn't a suppressed one given that it was an assassination. And furthermore, the manga was started in 1994, before the TV series. I liked it better than the TV series--it's just too bad the manga won't be finished before the ''Rebuild'' movies finish. But maybe we'll see more guns in the ''Rebuild'' movies soon. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No.  The TV series was conceived of in 1993, and Gainax infamously ran into long production delays.  From the start, they did want the manga to hit store shelves slightly before the TV series...purely as a promotional tie-in.  The entire conception and purpose of making &amp;quot;an Eva manga&amp;quot; was to cross-promote with the TV show, which was their original idea.  As it turned out, the manga was out something like a full year ahead of the TV show's premiere episode -- far longer than they planned -- due to the incredible production delays on the TV show.  But given that this was 15 years ago, it is increasingly irrelevant.  The point is that if we have to categorize them as &amp;quot;a TV show based on a manga comic&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;a spinoff manga comic got made based on the TV show&amp;quot;, the Sadamoto Eva manga falls into the &amp;quot;manga based on TV show&amp;quot; category.  It came out a bit earlier to try to create buzz for the TV show which was in development already. --[[User:V|V]] 16:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Production delays&amp;quot; were part and parcel of Gainax in those days, so much so that blatant animation-saving measures are quite visible in the original episodes. I daresay that the choice to use G11s in EoE was one minor way they could save animation budget so they wouldn't have to animate shell casings.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:25, 12 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Upon closer inspection, it could not be a Ruger Speed Six.  The underlug is different.  It doesn't help that the back of the gun is obscured.  Nonetheless I'm now leaning towards thinking its a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 36 / 38|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 36 Chief's Special]] revolver.--[[User:V|V]] 03:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It definitely looks like a full size Glock, but since we never get any clues about the calibre we can't be sure. It could therefore be a 17, 20 or a 22, at the very least. I don't know when the 31 or 21 were introduced. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a thought, for full size service semi-automatics in Japan whether law enforcement or military 9mm Parabellum is the only standard round. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 02:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Be in mind, this show took place in the future where the excuse is that they can have whatever they want since Japan is at the forefront of military tech, though in the movie they did mention that their defense budget was lowered gradually for no reason [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why G11 in Other weapons? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The HK G11 was supposed to be a future assault rifle, so why put it in the Other Weapons section? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fixing the inappropriate dialogue for Glocks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that English localizers for anime rarely have enough information about guns, but a little bit of imagination could have fixed the dialogue about Glocks. &lt;br /&gt;
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For example, Hyuga could have said &amp;quot;I'm ready,&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;safety off.&amp;quot; Both have the same syllable count, and to my knowledge the number of lip-flaps that characters are animated to use dictate the syllables used in English-dubbed lines. Likewise, Shigeru could say &amp;quot;Get with the program!&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Release the safety!&amp;quot; when handing Maya her Glock so as to tell her to stop quaking in fear and help defend the NERV command centre. Does anyone have any other ideas? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 09:23, 1 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What about &amp;quot;Get ready to shoot&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Defend yourself&amp;quot;. Or what about, &amp;quot;Your gun is good to go&amp;quot; [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should have been more specific. Shigeru's line would have to be only 5 syllables long to match the lip flap. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 02:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The English dub for ''The End of Evangelion'' has several notorious script mistakes.  You have to remember that anime dubbing is a two step process:  the actual &amp;quot;translator&amp;quot; just makes a literal translation, and often there is no direct translation for a given line.  The translator then hands their work off to an &amp;quot;ADR scriptwriter&amp;quot;, who has to adapt this raw translation into English:  commonly, things in another language have no one-for-one translation, like jokes or idioms.  Extremely technical language is often very different, because each language does &amp;quot;technobabble&amp;quot; differently (and even real technical jargon).  Few anime ADR scriptwriters actually know Japanese.  Generally speaking this usually works out:  jokes that cannot translate are replaced by dialogue that fits English better, and many ADR scriptwriters are very creative.  The problem is that the ''End of Eva'' scriptwriters put all their faith in the three translators working for them, and had no way to double-check.  So a lot of mistakes are the translator's fault, not the ADR scriptwriter.  --&amp;gt;case in point, there's an infamous goof where Misato is very quickly explaining the secret backstory of the Angels and Evangelions, but they mix up the dialogue and get it backwards.  Given that this was virtually the ''only'' scene in which the story finally gave a coherent explanation of this, it wrecked that explanation for the English audience.&lt;br /&gt;
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More to the point for our purposes, however, is the infamous &amp;quot;gun slap&amp;quot; mistake.  Before ''The End of Evangelion'' came out the fans were getting impatient so what they did was release the first third or so of the rough-cut of End of Eva, along with a clip show of the TV series main plot points up to that point, called ''Death and Rebirth''.  D&amp;amp;R is an utter waste, literally a clip show.  But they keep re-releasing it as a matched set with ''The End of Evangelion'' because fans are dumb enough to keep buying it (even though there isn't anything new in it, I mean its redundant).  ----&amp;gt;Anyway, the now-infamous &amp;quot;Commentary of Doom&amp;quot;, the DVD commentary for ''The End of Evangelion'' by the English adapters, actually stretches across ''Death &amp;amp; Rebirth'' and ''The End of Evangelion'' -- as I said, the second half of D&amp;amp;R is just the first half of End of Eva....even the commentary tracks work this way; they simply started recording during the &amp;quot;clip show&amp;quot; first half of D&amp;amp;R, then at the &amp;quot;Intermission&amp;quot; when the first third of End of Eva started, they shifted to recording for the entire, final version &amp;quot;End of Eva&amp;quot; -- so its a movie-and-a-half long, not two movies long commentary.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Well, enough about logistics:  during the TV series clip show part, there's a point when a character gets shot, off-camera,''' but the next scene is of Asuka slapping Shinji in the face (also off-camera).  The Japanese audio features an actually realistic-sounding gunshot:  on a microphone, they just sound like a popping noise or clapping.  American TV usually switches this out for unrealistic loud crashing noises to try to simulate the live-effect that gunshots have at close range of overwhelming hearing.  Because of this, the English dub adapters on hearing the gunshot -- and they explain this during the DVD commentary -- said they thought it sounded &amp;quot;like clapping, not a real gunshot&amp;quot;...so they went in and *changed the sound effect* to be a &amp;quot;more realistic gunshot&amp;quot; even though its actually not what guns sound like.&lt;br /&gt;
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This was one of several times during the movie that they actually *changed the sound effects*....which in English dubbing, is often considered sacrosanct;  they're supposed to change the language, but not sound effects, that's part of the original creator's vision.  The real problem was that they added insult to injury:  it wasn't just that they got things like this wrong, but the commentary track is filled with them pervasively praising themselves for how much research they did.  Then again, given that they had three translators working on it and there were still errors, in some cases they did all they could.  But its just inherently ironic when on the DVD commentary you hear them explaining &amp;quot;look how cool we are, we fixed the gunshot&amp;quot; when they actually don't seem to know what gunshots actually sound like in real life.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of particular annoyance is...look, I don't like dumping on these people (other than Jaffe, who ranted about his own pet theories on the show) and generally these are minor changes or forgivable (I don't mind that they made a mistake in D&amp;amp;R because its a clip show not worth buying).&lt;br /&gt;
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The one, I mean literally one thing I have a problem with and want a re-release to fix.....is that they changed the gunshot sound effect when Misato is fighting the JSSDF troops.  At the end of the fight, Misato holds her HK USP under a JSSDF soldier's chin, kills him with a contact shot, and his blood &amp;amp; brains are splattered all across the wall behind him.  The English adapters....felt this was so dark that they '''changed the gunshot sound effect to a watermelon &amp;quot;splat!' sound effect, to be funny'''.  I mean, on the DVD commentary they actually say &amp;quot;we changed this to be funny&amp;quot;.  Well, their explanation earlier was that they had watched the movie at least 30 times in development, each time watching characters they really cared about get killed, so they had to develop a sense of gallows humor to keep going.  Fair enough for just jokes on the DVD commentary and around the office....but in the finished version?  Yikes.--[[User:V|V]] 14:25, 13 May 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:53, 13 May 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Got a friend who said he use to work at GAINAX and helped with the character design. He said they planned to use a MK23 SOCOM at first to show that Misato is a gun nut. Maybe they just made a fictional .45 USP that &amp;quot;happens&amp;quot; to be real. Or maybe because of the flexibility of NGE(episodes made hastily before airing to suit oppinion or ideas), they gave Misato the &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; USP. This gun appears relatively late, so there is time for editing anyway.--[[User:Teslashark |Teslashark ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to question the credentials here, just to be sure. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Er...I'm sorry, but we need more proof than &amp;quot;I heard it from someone&amp;quot;.  Further...Misato's HK USP doesn't look &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot;, it looks entirely normal.--[[User:V|V]] 23:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's just say that Misato got a normal regular USP, but in the future, they make mags for it that is 18 rounds of 9mm. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*HALT!! HAMMERZEIT!! 9mm 18-round mags exist as the supplied mags for the USP Match and USP Expert in 9mm.  I have a PDF of the USP manual from before 2000 (when H&amp;amp;K was still selling the Match) that clearly says it.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 02:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, have the 18 round 9mm mags been around for 10 years because this anime was made in 1995? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, that I don't know.  I only know that they stopped making the Match in '99, and that the Expert (which came in '98) came after the Match.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 18:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can remember a revolver with a laser sight, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What Volume, which character?--![[User:V|V]] 23:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Vol. 8, Stage 55, a revolver with a laser sight is used in an assassination. Despite the laser sight, the character being shot chides the shooter for lousy aim before the killing blow is scored. To say anything about who it was used on or who was using it would be a major SPOILER. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 14:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Okay I checked that volume and I'm fairly sure it was a [[Ruger Security Six#Speed Six|Ruger Speed Six]] revolver, with an attached laser sight.  I don't think they let us talk about the manga on here.  Further, the manga is a separate continuity and has no real bearing on the show.  At any rate, the point was just to confirm to fans that the shooter was just some anonymous security agent sent by either Gendo or Seele; they *never* intended for us to start guessing it was any of the named cast members, it wasn't even supposed to be a mystery.  I.e. the director's cuts tried to emphasize this more.  So years later when working on the manga, Sadamoto made it a point to actually show the gun that was fired, for the effect of &amp;quot;oh look, its not like the guns that any of the other characters use, its not anyone we knew&amp;quot;.  --[[User:V|V]] 00:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yep, but it's still strange to me that the weapon wasn't a suppressed one given that it was an assassination. And furthermore, the manga was started in 1994, before the TV series. I liked it better than the TV series--it's just too bad the manga won't be finished before the ''Rebuild'' movies finish. But maybe we'll see more guns in the ''Rebuild'' movies soon. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No.  The TV series was conceived of in 1993, and Gainax infamously ran into long production delays.  From the start, they did want the manga to hit store shelves slightly before the TV series...purely as a promotional tie-in.  The entire conception and purpose of making &amp;quot;an Eva manga&amp;quot; was to cross-promote with the TV show, which was their original idea.  As it turned out, the manga was out something like a full year ahead of the TV show's premiere episode -- far longer than they planned -- due to the incredible production delays on the TV show.  But given that this was 15 years ago, it is increasingly irrelevant.  The point is that if we have to categorize them as &amp;quot;a TV show based on a manga comic&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;a spinoff manga comic got made based on the TV show&amp;quot;, the Sadamoto Eva manga falls into the &amp;quot;manga based on TV show&amp;quot; category.  It came out a bit earlier to try to create buzz for the TV show which was in development already. --[[User:V|V]] 16:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Production delays&amp;quot; were part and parcel of Gainax in those days, so much so that blatant animation-saving measures are quite visible in the original episodes. I daresay that the choice to use G11s in EoE was one minor way they could save animation budget so they wouldn't have to animate shell casings.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:25, 12 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Upon closer inspection, it could not be a Ruger Speed Six.  The underlug is different.  It doesn't help that the back of the gun is obscured.  Nonetheless I'm now leaning towards thinking its a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 36 / 38|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 36 Chief's Special]] revolver.--[[User:V|V]] 03:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It definitely looks like a full size Glock, but since we never get any clues about the calibre we can't be sure. It could therefore be a 17, 20 or a 22, at the very least. I don't know when the 31 or 21 were introduced. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a thought, for full size service semi-automatics in Japan whether law enforcement or military 9mm Parabellum is the only standard round. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 02:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Be in mind, this show took place in the future where the excuse is that they can have whatever they want since Japan is at the forefront of military tech, though in the movie they did mention that their defense budget was lowered gradually for no reason [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why G11 in Other weapons? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The HK G11 was supposed to be a future assault rifle, so why put it in the Other Weapons section? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fixing the inappropriate dialogue for Glocks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that English localizers for anime rarely have enough information about guns, but a little bit of imagination could have fixed the dialogue about Glocks. &lt;br /&gt;
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For example, Hyuga could have said &amp;quot;I'm ready,&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;safety off.&amp;quot; Both have the same syllable count, and to my knowledge the number of lip-flaps that characters are animated to use dictate the syllables used in English-dubbed lines. Likewise, Shigeru could say &amp;quot;Get with the program!&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Release the safety!&amp;quot; when handing Maya her Glock so as to tell her to stop quaking in fear and help defend the NERV command centre. Does anyone have any other ideas? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 09:23, 1 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What about &amp;quot;Get ready to shoot&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Defend yourself&amp;quot;. Or what about, &amp;quot;Your gun is good to go&amp;quot; [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should have been more specific. Shigeru's line would have to be only 5 syllables long to match the lip flap. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 02:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The English dub for ''The End of Evangelion'' has several notorious script mistakes.  You have to remember that anime dubbing is a two step process:  the actual &amp;quot;translator&amp;quot; just makes a literal translation, and often there is no direct translation for a given line.  The translator then hands their work off to an &amp;quot;ADR scriptwriter&amp;quot;, who has to adapt this raw translation into English:  commonly, things in another language have no one-for-one translation, like jokes or idioms.  Extremely technical language is often very different, because each language does &amp;quot;technobabble&amp;quot; differently (and even real technical jargon).  Few anime ADR scriptwriters actually know Japanese.  Generally speaking this usually works out:  jokes that cannot translate are replaced by dialogue that fits English better, and many ADR scriptwriters are very creative.  The problem is that the ''End of Eva'' scriptwriters put all their faith in the three translators working for them, and had no way to double-check.  So a lot of mistakes are the translator's fault, not the ADR scriptwriter.  --&amp;gt;case in point, there's an infamous goof where Misato is very quickly explaining the secret backstory of the Angels and Evangelions, but they mix up the dialogue and get it backwards.  Given that this was virtually the ''only'' scene in which the story finally gave a coherent explanation of this, it wrecked that explanation for the English audience.&lt;br /&gt;
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More to the point for our purposes, however, is the infamous &amp;quot;gun slap&amp;quot; mistake.  Before ''The End of Evangelion'' came out the fans were getting impatient so what they did was release the first third or so of the rough-cut of End of Eva, along with a clip show of the TV series main plot points up to that point, called ''Death and Rebirth''.  D&amp;amp;R is an utter waste, literally a clip show.  But they keep re-releasing it as a matched set with ''The End of Evangelion'' because fans are dumb enough to keep buying it (even though there isn't anything new in it, I mean its redundant).  ----&amp;gt;Anyway, the now-infamous &amp;quot;Commentary of Doom&amp;quot;, the DVD commentary for ''The End of Evangelion'' by the English adapters, actually stretches across ''Death &amp;amp; Rebirth'' and ''The End of Evangelion'' -- as I said, the second half of D&amp;amp;R is just the first half of End of Eva....even the commentary tracks work this way; they simply started recording during the &amp;quot;clip show&amp;quot; first half of D&amp;amp;R, then at the &amp;quot;Intermission&amp;quot; when the first third of End of Eva started, they shifted to recording for the entire, final version &amp;quot;End of Eva&amp;quot; -- so its a movie-and-a-half long, not two movies long commentary.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, enough about logistics:  during the TV series clip show part, there's a point when a character gets shot, off-camera, but the next scene is of Asuka slapping Shinji in the face (also off-camera).  The Japanese audio features an actually realistic-sounding gunshot:  on a microphone, they just sound like a popping noise or clapping.  American TV usually switches this out for unrealistic loud crashing noises to try to simulate the live-effect that gunshots have at close range of overwhelming hearing.  Because of this, the English dub adapters on hearing the gunshot -- and they explain this during the DVD commentary -- said they thought it sounded &amp;quot;like clapping, not a real gunshot&amp;quot;...so they went in and *changed the sound effect* to be a &amp;quot;more realistic gunshot&amp;quot; even though its actually not what guns sound like.&lt;br /&gt;
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This was one of several times during the movie that they actually *changed the sound effects*....which in English dubbing, is often considered sacrosanct;  they're supposed to change the language, but not sound effects, that's part of the original creator's vision.  The real problem was that they added insult to injury:  it wasn't just that they got things like this wrong, but the commentary track is filled with them pervasively praising themselves for how much research they did.  Then again, given that they had three translators working on it and there were still errors, in some cases they did all they could.  But its just inherently ironic when on the DVD commentary you hear them explaining &amp;quot;look how cool we are, we fixed the gunshot&amp;quot; when they actually don't seem to know what gunshots actually sound like in real life.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of particular annoyance is...look, I don't like dumping on these people (other than Jaffe, who ranted about his own pet theories on the show) and generally these are minor changes or forgivable (I don't mind that they made a mistake in D&amp;amp;R because its a clip show not worth buying).&lt;br /&gt;
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The one, I mean literally one thing I have a problem with and want a re-release to fix.....is that they changed the gunshot sound effect when Misato is fighting the JSSDF troops.  At the end of the fight, Misato holds her HK USP under a JSSDF soldier's chin, kills him with a contact shot, and his blood &amp;amp; brains are splattered all across the wall behind him.  The English adapters....felt this was so dark that they '''changed the gunshot sound effect to a watermelon &amp;quot;splat!' sound effect, to be funny'''.  I mean, on the DVD commentary they actually say &amp;quot;we changed this to be funny&amp;quot;.  Well, their explanation earlier was that they had watched the movie at least 30 times in development, each time watching characters they really cared about get killed, so they had to develop a sense of gallows humor to keep going.  Fair enough for just jokes on the DVD commentary and around the office....but in the finished version?  Yikes.--[[User:V|V]] 14:25, 13 May 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:53, 13 May 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Got a friend who said he use to work at GAINAX and helped with the character design. He said they planned to use a MK23 SOCOM at first to show that Misato is a gun nut. Maybe they just made a fictional .45 USP that &amp;quot;happens&amp;quot; to be real. Or maybe because of the flexibility of NGE(episodes made hastily before airing to suit oppinion or ideas), they gave Misato the &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; USP. This gun appears relatively late, so there is time for editing anyway.--[[User:Teslashark |Teslashark ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to question the credentials here, just to be sure. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Er...I'm sorry, but we need more proof than &amp;quot;I heard it from someone&amp;quot;.  Further...Misato's HK USP doesn't look &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot;, it looks entirely normal.--[[User:V|V]] 23:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's just say that Misato got a normal regular USP, but in the future, they make mags for it that is 18 rounds of 9mm. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*HALT!! HAMMERZEIT!! 9mm 18-round mags exist as the supplied mags for the USP Match and USP Expert in 9mm.  I have a PDF of the USP manual from before 2000 (when H&amp;amp;K was still selling the Match) that clearly says it.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 02:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, have the 18 round 9mm mags been around for 10 years because this anime was made in 1995? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, that I don't know.  I only know that they stopped making the Match in '99, and that the Expert (which came in '98) came after the Match.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 18:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can remember a revolver with a laser sight, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What Volume, which character?--![[User:V|V]] 23:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Vol. 8, Stage 55, a revolver with a laser sight is used in an assassination. Despite the laser sight, the character being shot chides the shooter for lousy aim before the killing blow is scored. To say anything about who it was used on or who was using it would be a major SPOILER. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 14:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Okay I checked that volume and I'm fairly sure it was a [[Ruger Security Six#Speed Six|Ruger Speed Six]] revolver, with an attached laser sight.  I don't think they let us talk about the manga on here.  Further, the manga is a separate continuity and has no real bearing on the show.  At any rate, the point was just to confirm to fans that the shooter was just some anonymous security agent sent by either Gendo or Seele; they *never* intended for us to start guessing it was any of the named cast members, it wasn't even supposed to be a mystery.  I.e. the director's cuts tried to emphasize this more.  So years later when working on the manga, Sadamoto made it a point to actually show the gun that was fired, for the effect of &amp;quot;oh look, its not like the guns that any of the other characters use, its not anyone we knew&amp;quot;.  --[[User:V|V]] 00:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yep, but it's still strange to me that the weapon wasn't a suppressed one given that it was an assassination. And furthermore, the manga was started in 1994, before the TV series. I liked it better than the TV series--it's just too bad the manga won't be finished before the ''Rebuild'' movies finish. But maybe we'll see more guns in the ''Rebuild'' movies soon. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No.  The TV series was conceived of in 1993, and Gainax infamously ran into long production delays.  From the start, they did want the manga to hit store shelves slightly before the TV series...purely as a promotional tie-in.  The entire conception and purpose of making &amp;quot;an Eva manga&amp;quot; was to cross-promote with the TV show, which was their original idea.  As it turned out, the manga was out something like a full year ahead of the TV show's premiere episode -- far longer than they planned -- due to the incredible production delays on the TV show.  But given that this was 15 years ago, it is increasingly irrelevant.  The point is that if we have to categorize them as &amp;quot;a TV show based on a manga comic&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;a spinoff manga comic got made based on the TV show&amp;quot;, the Sadamoto Eva manga falls into the &amp;quot;manga based on TV show&amp;quot; category.  It came out a bit earlier to try to create buzz for the TV show which was in development already. --[[User:V|V]] 16:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Production delays&amp;quot; were part and parcel of Gainax in those days, so much so that blatant animation-saving measures are quite visible in the original episodes. I daresay that the choice to use G11s in EoE was one minor way they could save animation budget so they wouldn't have to animate shell casings.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:25, 12 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Upon closer inspection, it could not be a Ruger Speed Six.  The underlug is different.  It doesn't help that the back of the gun is obscured.  Nonetheless I'm now leaning towards thinking its a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 36 / 38|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 36 Chief's Special]] revolver.--[[User:V|V]] 03:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It definitely looks like a full size Glock, but since we never get any clues about the calibre we can't be sure. It could therefore be a 17, 20 or a 22, at the very least. I don't know when the 31 or 21 were introduced. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a thought, for full size service semi-automatics in Japan whether law enforcement or military 9mm Parabellum is the only standard round. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 02:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Be in mind, this show took place in the future where the excuse is that they can have whatever they want since Japan is at the forefront of military tech, though in the movie they did mention that their defense budget was lowered gradually for no reason [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why G11 in Other weapons? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The HK G11 was supposed to be a future assault rifle, so why put it in the Other Weapons section? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fixing the inappropriate dialogue for Glocks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that English localizers for anime rarely have enough information about guns, but a little bit of imagination could have fixed the dialogue about Glocks. &lt;br /&gt;
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For example, Hyuga could have said &amp;quot;I'm ready,&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;safety off.&amp;quot; Both have the same syllable count, and to my knowledge the number of lip-flaps that characters are animated to use dictate the syllables used in English-dubbed lines. Likewise, Shigeru could say &amp;quot;Get with the program!&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Release the safety!&amp;quot; when handing Maya her Glock so as to tell her to stop quaking in fear and help defend the NERV command centre. Does anyone have any other ideas? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 09:23, 1 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What about &amp;quot;Get ready to shoot&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Defend yourself&amp;quot;. Or what about, &amp;quot;Your gun is good to go&amp;quot; [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should have been more specific. Shigeru's line would have to be only 5 syllables long to match the lip flap. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 02:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The English dub for ''The End of Evangelion'' has several notorious script mistakes.  You have to remember that anime dubbing is a two step process:  the actual &amp;quot;translator&amp;quot; just makes a literal translation, and often there is no direct translation for a given line.  The translator then hands their work off to an &amp;quot;ADR scriptwriter&amp;quot;, who has to adapt this raw translation into English:  commonly, things in another language have no one-for-one translation, like jokes or idioms.  Extremely technical language is often very different, because each language does &amp;quot;technobabble&amp;quot; differently (and even real technical jargon).  Few anime ADR scriptwriters actually know Japanese.  Generally speaking this usually works out:  jokes that cannot translate are replaced by dialogue that fits English better, and many ADR scriptwriters are very creative.  The problem is that the ''End of Eva'' scriptwriters put all their faith in the three translators working for them, and had no way to double-check.  So a lot of mistakes are the translator's fault, not the ADR scriptwriter.  --&amp;gt;case in point, there's an infamous goof where Misato is very quickly explaining the secret backstory of the Angels and Evangelions, but they mix up the dialogue and get it backwards.  Given that this was virtually the ''only'' scene in which the story finally gave a coherent explanation of this, it wrecked that explanation for the English audience.&lt;br /&gt;
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More to the point for our purposes, however, is the infamous &amp;quot;gun slap&amp;quot; mistake.  Before ''The End of Evangelion'' came out the fans were getting impatient so what they did was release the first third or so of the rough-cut of End of Eva, along with a clip show of the TV series main plot points up to that point, called ''Death and Rebirth&amp;quot;.  D&amp;amp;R is an utter waste, literally a clip show.  But they keep re-releasing it as a matched set with ''The End of Evangelion'' because fans are dumb enough to keep buying it (even though there isn't anything new in it, I mean its redundant).  ----&amp;gt;Anyway, the now-infamous &amp;quot;Commentary of Doom&amp;quot;, the DVD commentary for ''The End of Evangelion'' by the English adapters, actually stretches across ''Death &amp;amp; Rebirth'' and ''The End of Evangelion'' -- as I said, the second half of D&amp;amp;R is just the first half of End of Eva....even the commentary tracks work this way; they simply started recording during the &amp;quot;clip show&amp;quot; first half of D&amp;amp;R, then at the &amp;quot;Intermission&amp;quot; when the first third of End of Eva started, they shifted to recording for the entire, final version &amp;quot;End of Eva&amp;quot; -- so its a movie-and-a-half long, not two movies long commentary.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, enough about logistics:  during the TV series clip show part, there's a point when a character gets shot, off-camera, but the next scene is of Asuka slapping Shinji in the face (also off-camera).  The Japanese audio features an actually realistic-sounding gunshot:  on a microphone, they just sound like a popping noise or clapping.  American TV usually switches this out for unrealistic loud crashing noises to try to simulate the live-effect that gunshots have at close range of overwhelming hearing.  Because of this, the English dub adapters on hearing the gunshot -- and they explain this during the DVD commentary -- said they thought it sounded &amp;quot;like clapping, not a real gunshot&amp;quot;...so they went in and *changed the sound effect* to be a &amp;quot;more realistic gunshot&amp;quot; even though its actually not what guns sound like.&lt;br /&gt;
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This was one of several times during the movie that they actually *changed the sound effects*....which in English dubbing, is often considered sacrosanct;  they're supposed to change the language, but not sound effects, that's part of the original creator's vision.  The real problem was that they added insult to injury:  it wasn't just that they got things like this wrong, but the commentary track is filled with them pervasively praising themselves for how much research they did.  Then again, given that they had three translators working on it and there were still errors, in some cases they did all they could.  But its just inherently ironic when on the DVD commentary you hear them explaining &amp;quot;look how cool we are, we fixed the gunshot&amp;quot; when they actually don't seem to know what gunshots actually sound like in real life.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of particular annoyance is...look, I don't like dumping on these people (other than Jaffe, who ranted about his own pet theories on the show) and generally these are minor changes or forgivable (I don't mind that they made a mistake in D&amp;amp;R because its a clip show not worth buying).&lt;br /&gt;
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The one, I mean literally one thing I have a problem with and want a re-release to fix.....is that they changed the gunshot sound effect when Misato is fighting the JSSDF troops.  At the end of the fight, Misato holds her HK USP under a JSSDF soldier's chin, kills him with a contact shot, and his blood &amp;amp; brains are splattered all across the wall behind him.  The English adapters....felt this was so dark that they '''changed the gunshot sound effect to a watermelon &amp;quot;splat!' sound effect, to be funny'''.  I mean, on the DVD commentary they actually say &amp;quot;we changed this to be funny&amp;quot;.  Well, their explanation earlier was that they had watched the movie at least 30 times in development, each time watching characters they really cared about get killed, so they had to develop a sense of gallows humor to keep going.  Fair enough for just jokes on the DVD commentary and around the office....but in the finished version?  Yikes.--[[User:V|V]] 14:25, 13 May 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388419</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<updated>2011-02-14T03:21:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP */ which issue of Eva Chronicle?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:evangeliontvart.jpg|thumb|right|200px|''Neon Genesis Evangelion'' (1995 - 1996)]][[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|200px|''End of Evangelion'' (1997)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series and the finale movie ''The End of Evangelion''.&lt;br /&gt;
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__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga retrieves a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: The original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 (Generation 1) - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Safety off.&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there is only one spare magazine. It seems that someone thinks stocking up on ammunition is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11s (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. She fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers. All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more than 10 rounds per magazine, so there is no on-screen evidence establishing which kind she uses (according to Evangelion Chronicle, her USP is a .45 ACP variant).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP on her desk.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Image of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato catches Kaji trying to enter Terminal Dogma.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato eying Kaji while aiming the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato checks the magazine in her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|You can see the rail under the barrel and the various safeties.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The grip and magazine of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|Misato racks the slide on her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken.&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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===R-92 Revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a [[R-92|R-92 revolver]]. Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:R92revolver.jpg|thumb|none|400px|R-92 revolver - 9x18mm Makarov.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko draws her R-92 from her lab coat.]][[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko aims her R-92.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===CZ-75B===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls a [[CZ 75|CZ-75B]] on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|CZ 75B - .40 S&amp;amp;W.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5s, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|MP5A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9mm.  This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, killed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire while holding his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69 as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015. A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK_G11_caseless_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 - 4.73x33mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11s invading Nerv HQ.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|Two JSSDF soldiers shoot at Misato with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldier shoots wires on a panel with a HK G11.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
JSSDF soldiers uses [[Panzerfaust 3]]s while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PNZFT3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerfaust 3 with DM12A1 rocket, 60mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier in Nerv HQ's basement parking lot fires a Panzerfaust 3.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Eoe P3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier on the left is armed with a Panzerfaust 3 moments after firing it at the anti-blast door Misato and Shinji used to get in the cage elevator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime Series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388418</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<updated>2011-02-14T03:16:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:evangeliontvart.jpg|thumb|right|200px|''Neon Genesis Evangelion'' (1995 - 1996)]][[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|200px|''End of Evangelion'' (1997)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series and the finale movie ''The End of Evangelion''.&lt;br /&gt;
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__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga retrieves a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: The original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 (Generation 1) - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Safety off.&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there is only one spare magazine. It seems that someone thinks stocking up on ammunition is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11s (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. She fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers. According to Evangelion Chronicle, her USP is a .45 ACP variant.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP on her desk.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Image of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato catches Kaji trying to enter Terminal Dogma.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato eying Kaji while aiming the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato checks the magazine in her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|You can see the rail under the barrel and the various safeties.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The grip and magazine of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|Misato racks the slide on her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken.&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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===R-92 Revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a [[R-92|R-92 revolver]]. Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:R92revolver.jpg|thumb|none|400px|R-92 revolver - 9x18mm Makarov.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko draws her R-92 from her lab coat.]][[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko aims her R-92.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===CZ-75B===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls a [[CZ 75|CZ-75B]] on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|CZ 75B - .40 S&amp;amp;W.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5s, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|MP5A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9mm.  This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, killed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire while holding his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69 as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015. A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK_G11_caseless_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 - 4.73x33mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11s invading Nerv HQ.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|Two JSSDF soldiers shoot at Misato with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldier shoots wires on a panel with a HK G11.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
JSSDF soldiers uses [[Panzerfaust 3]]s while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PNZFT3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerfaust 3 with DM12A1 rocket, 60mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier in Nerv HQ's basement parking lot fires a Panzerfaust 3.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Eoe P3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier on the left is armed with a Panzerfaust 3 moments after firing it at the anti-blast door Misato and Shinji used to get in the cage elevator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime Series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388417</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388417"/>
		<updated>2011-02-14T03:15:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:evangeliontvart.jpg|thumb|right|200px|''Neon Genesis Evangelion'' (1995 - 1996)]][[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|200px|''End of Evangelion'' (1997)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series and the finale movie ''End of Evangelion''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga retrieves a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: The original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 (Generation 1) - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Safety off.&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there is only one spare magazine. It seems that someone thinks stocking up on ammunition is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11s (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. She fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers. According to Evangelion Chronicle, her USP is a .45 ACP variant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP on her desk.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Image of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato catches Kaji trying to enter Terminal Dogma.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato eying Kaji while aiming the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato checks the magazine in her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|You can see the rail under the barrel and the various safeties.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The grip and magazine of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|Misato racks the slide on her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken.&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===R-92 Revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a [[R-92|R-92 revolver]]. Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:R92revolver.jpg|thumb|none|400px|R-92 revolver - 9x18mm Makarov.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko draws her R-92 from her lab coat.]][[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko aims her R-92.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===CZ-75B===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls a [[CZ 75|CZ-75B]] on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|CZ 75B - .40 S&amp;amp;W.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5s, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|MP5A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9mm.  This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, killed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire while holding his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69 as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015. A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK_G11_caseless_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 - 4.73x33mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11s invading Nerv HQ.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|Two JSSDF soldiers shoot at Misato with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldier shoots wires on a panel with a HK G11.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
JSSDF soldiers uses [[Panzerfaust 3]]s while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PNZFT3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerfaust 3 with DM12A1 rocket, 60mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier in Nerv HQ's basement parking lot fires a Panzerfaust 3.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Eoe P3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier on the left is armed with a Panzerfaust 3 moments after firing it at the anti-blast door Misato and Shinji used to get in the cage elevator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime Series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388416</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388416"/>
		<updated>2011-02-14T03:15:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:evangeliontvart.jpg|thumb|right|150px|''Neon Genesis Evangelion'' (1995 - 1996)]][[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|150px|''End of Evangelion'' (1997)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series and the finale movie ''End of Evangelion''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga retrieves a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: The original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 (Generation 1) - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Safety off.&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there is only one spare magazine. It seems that someone thinks stocking up on ammunition is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11s (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. She fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers. According to Evangelion Chronicle, her USP is a .45 ACP variant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP on her desk.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Image of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato catches Kaji trying to enter Terminal Dogma.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato eying Kaji while aiming the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato checks the magazine in her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|You can see the rail under the barrel and the various safeties.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The grip and magazine of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|Misato racks the slide on her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken.&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===R-92 Revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a [[R-92|R-92 revolver]]. Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:R92revolver.jpg|thumb|none|400px|R-92 revolver - 9x18mm Makarov.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko draws her R-92 from her lab coat.]][[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko aims her R-92.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===CZ-75B===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls a [[CZ 75|CZ-75B]] on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|CZ 75B - .40 S&amp;amp;W.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5s, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|MP5A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9mm.  This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, killed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire while holding his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69 as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015. A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK_G11_caseless_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 - 4.73x33mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11s invading Nerv HQ.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|Two JSSDF soldiers shoot at Misato with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldier shoots wires on a panel with a HK G11.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
JSSDF soldiers uses [[Panzerfaust 3]]s while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PNZFT3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerfaust 3 with DM12A1 rocket, 60mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier in Nerv HQ's basement parking lot fires a Panzerfaust 3.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Eoe P3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier on the left is armed with a Panzerfaust 3 moments after firing it at the anti-blast door Misato and Shinji used to get in the cage elevator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime Series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388415</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388415"/>
		<updated>2011-02-14T03:15:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:evangeliontvart.jpg|thumb|center|300px|''Neon Genesis Evangelion'' (1995 - 1996)]][[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''End of Evangelion'' (1997)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series and the finale movie ''End of Evangelion''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga retrieves a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: The original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 (Generation 1) - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Safety off.&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there is only one spare magazine. It seems that someone thinks stocking up on ammunition is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11s (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. She fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers. According to Evangelion Chronicle, her USP is a .45 ACP variant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP on her desk.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Image of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato catches Kaji trying to enter Terminal Dogma.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato eying Kaji while aiming the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato checks the magazine in her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|You can see the rail under the barrel and the various safeties.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The grip and magazine of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|Misato racks the slide on her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken.&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===R-92 Revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a [[R-92|R-92 revolver]]. Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:R92revolver.jpg|thumb|none|400px|R-92 revolver - 9x18mm Makarov.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko draws her R-92 from her lab coat.]][[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko aims her R-92.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===CZ-75B===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls a [[CZ 75|CZ-75B]] on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|CZ 75B - .40 S&amp;amp;W.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5s, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|MP5A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9mm.  This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, killed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire while holding his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69 as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015. A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK_G11_caseless_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 - 4.73x33mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11s invading Nerv HQ.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|Two JSSDF soldiers shoot at Misato with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldier shoots wires on a panel with a HK G11.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
JSSDF soldiers uses [[Panzerfaust 3]]s while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PNZFT3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerfaust 3 with DM12A1 rocket, 60mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier in Nerv HQ's basement parking lot fires a Panzerfaust 3.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Eoe P3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier on the left is armed with a Panzerfaust 3 moments after firing it at the anti-blast door Misato and Shinji used to get in the cage elevator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime Series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388414</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=388414"/>
		<updated>2011-02-14T03:14:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:evangeliontvart.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Neon Genesis Evangelion'' (1995 - 1996)]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''End of Evangelion'' (1997)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series and the finale movie ''End of Evangelion''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga retrieves a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: The original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 (Generation 1) - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Safety off.&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there is only one spare magazine. It seems that someone thinks stocking up on ammunition is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11s (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right).]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. She fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers. According to Evangelion Chronicle, her USP is a .45 ACP variant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP on her desk.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Image of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato catches Kaji trying to enter Terminal Dogma.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato eying Kaji while aiming the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato checks the magazine in her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|You can see the rail under the barrel and the various safeties.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The grip and magazine of the USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|Misato racks the slide on her USP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken.&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===R-92 Revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a [[R-92|R-92 revolver]]. Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:R92revolver.jpg|thumb|none|400px|R-92 revolver - 9x18mm Makarov.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko draws her R-92 from her lab coat.]][[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ritsuko aims her R-92.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===CZ-75B===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls a [[CZ 75|CZ-75B]] on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|CZ 75B - .40 S&amp;amp;W.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5s, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|MP5A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9mm.  This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, killed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire while holding his Steyr MPi 69.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69 as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015. A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK_G11_caseless_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 - 4.73x33mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11s invading Nerv HQ.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|Two JSSDF soldiers shoot at Misato with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldier shoots wires on a panel with a HK G11.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
JSSDF soldiers uses [[Panzerfaust 3]]s while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PNZFT3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerfaust 3 with DM12A1 rocket, 60mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier in Nerv HQ's basement parking lot fires a Panzerfaust 3.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Eoe P3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier on the left is armed with a Panzerfaust 3 moments after firing it at the anti-blast door Misato and Shinji used to get in the cage elevator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Weapon in NGE comics? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Got a friend who said he use to work at GAINAX and helped with the character design. He said they planned to use a MK23 SOCOM at first to show that Misato is a gun nut. Maybe they just made a fictional .45 USP that &amp;quot;happens&amp;quot; to be real. Or maybe because of the flexibility of NGE(episodes made hastily before airing to suit oppinion or ideas), they gave Misato the &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; USP. This gun appears relatively late, so there is time for editing anyway.--[[User:Teslashark |Teslashark ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to question the credentials here, just to be sure. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Er...I'm sorry, but we need more proof than &amp;quot;I heard it from someone&amp;quot;.  Further...Misato's HK USP doesn't look &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot;, it looks entirely normal.--[[User:V|V]] 23:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's just say that Misato got a normal regular USP, but in the future, they make mags for it that is 18 rounds of 9mm. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*HALT!! HAMMERZEIT!! 9mm 18-round mags exist as the supplied mags for the USP Match and USP Expert in 9mm.  I have a PDF of the USP manual from before 2000 (when H&amp;amp;K was still selling the Match) that clearly says it.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 02:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, have the 18 round 9mm mags been around for 10 years because this anime was made in 1995? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, that I don't know.  I only know that they stopped making the Match in '99, and that the Expert (which came in '98) came after the Match.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 18:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can remember a revolver with a laser sight, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What Volume, which character?--![[User:V|V]] 23:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Vol. 8, Stage 55, a revolver with a laser sight is used in an assassination. Despite the laser sight, the character being shot chides the shooter for lousy aim before the killing blow is scored. To say anything about who it was used on or who was using it would be a major SPOILER. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 14:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Okay I checked that volume and I'm fairly sure it was a [[Ruger Security Six#Speed Six|Ruger Speed Six]] revolver, with an attached laser sight.  I don't think they let us talk about the manga on here.  Further, the manga is a separate continuity and has no real bearing on the show.  At any rate, the point was just to confirm to fans that the shooter was just some anonymous security agent sent by either Gendo or Seele; they *never* intended for us to start guessing it was any of the named cast members, it wasn't even supposed to be a mystery.  I.e. the director's cuts tried to emphasize this more.  So years later when working on the manga, Sadamoto made it a point to actually show the gun that was fired, for the effect of &amp;quot;oh look, its not like the guns that any of the other characters use, its not anyone we knew&amp;quot;.  --[[User:V|V]] 00:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yep, but it's still strange to me that the weapon wasn't a suppressed one given that it was an assassination. And furthermore, the manga was started in 1994, before the TV series. I liked it better than the TV series--it's just too bad the manga won't be finished before the ''Rebuild'' movies finish. But maybe we'll see more guns in the ''Rebuild'' movies soon. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No.  The TV series was conceived of in 1993, and Gainax infamously ran into long production delays.  From the start, they did want the manga to hit store shelves slightly before the TV series...purely as a promotional tie-in.  The entire conception and purpose of making &amp;quot;an Eva manga&amp;quot; was to cross-promote with the TV show, which was their original idea.  As it turned out, the manga was out something like a full year ahead of the TV show's premiere episode -- far longer than they planned -- due to the incredible production delays on the TV show.  But given that this was 15 years ago, it is increasingly irrelevant.  The point is that if we have to categorize them as &amp;quot;a TV show based on a manga comic&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;a spinoff manga comic got made based on the TV show&amp;quot;, the Sadamoto Eva manga falls into the &amp;quot;manga based on TV show&amp;quot; category.  It came out a bit earlier to try to create buzz for the TV show which was in development already. --[[User:V|V]] 16:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Production delays&amp;quot; were part and parcel of Gainax in those days, so much so that blatant animation-saving measures are quite visible in the original episodes. I daresay that the choice to use G11s in EoE was one minor way they could save animation budget so they wouldn't have to animate shell casings.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:25, 12 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Upon closer inspection, it could not be a Ruger Speed Six.  The underlug is different.  It doesn't help that the back of the gun is obscured.  Nonetheless I'm now leaning towards thinking its a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 36 / 38|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 36 Chief's Special]] revolver.--[[User:V|V]] 03:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It definitely looks like a full size Glock, but since we never get any clues about the calibre we can't be sure. It could therefore be a 17, 20 or a 22, at the very least. I don't know when the 31 or 21 were introduced. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a thought, for full size service semi-automatics in Japan whether law enforcement or military 9mm Parabellum is the only standard round. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 02:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Be in mind, this show took place in the future where the excuse is that they can have whatever they want since Japan is at the forefront of military tech, though in the movie they did mention that their defense budget was lowered gradually for no reason [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why G11 in Other weapons? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The HK G11 was supposed to be a future assault rifle, so why put it in the Other Weapons section? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fixing the inappropriate dialogue for Glocks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that English localizers for anime rarely have enough information about guns, but a little bit of imagination could have fixed the dialogue about Glocks. &lt;br /&gt;
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For example, Hyuga could have said &amp;quot;I'm ready,&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;safety off.&amp;quot; Both have the same syllable count, and to my knowledge the number of lip-flaps that characters are animated to use dictate the syllables used in English-dubbed lines. Likewise, Shigeru could say &amp;quot;Get with the program!&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Release the safety!&amp;quot; when handing Maya her Glock so as to tell her to stop quaking in fear and help defend the NERV command centre. Does anyone have any other ideas? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 09:23, 1 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What about &amp;quot;Get ready to shoot&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Defend yourself&amp;quot;. Or what about, &amp;quot;Your gun is good to go&amp;quot; [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should have been more specific. Shigeru's line would have to be only 5 syllables long to match the lip flap. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 02:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* American troops in Mexico conflict */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Well, shit.  I screwed up the article title and then made a note about spelling it right.  That's embarrasingly silly of me.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Good job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking good so far [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:20, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== American troops in Mexico conflict ==&lt;br /&gt;
I could be mistaken as I haven't seen this episode in a while, but weren't the American soldiers in this episode American Empire troops as opposed to US? As someone familiar with the series would presumably know, the United States after WW3 was fractured into three separate countries and the United States as it existed in 2020 (consisting of Washington state, Arizona, Utah, Montana, North &amp;amp; South Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, and Wisconsin) wasn't in any shape, economically or militarily, to wage war beyond its borders. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 18:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well if I remember something, Batou was with the &amp;quot;American&amp;quot; troops in Latin America. I'd need to rewatch the episode again, but they also mentioned he was with the SEAL. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::He has a Japanese flag on his BDU shirt in this episode, so he's clearly with the Japanese contingent in Mexico. He did mention being &amp;quot;with the Rangers&amp;quot; in a couple other episodes, but I don't think he was referring to the American ones. In a later episode, he revealed himself to members of a military/paramilitary unit with the same prosthetic eyes as him saying &amp;quot;I'm one of you&amp;quot;, but this was a J-SDF Special Ops unit, not an American one. At any rate, I'm watching this episode as we speak, so I can at least confirm whether these American troops are US, AE, or RAA. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 14:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::They were AE troops. On a side note, it bugged me how the Americans in that episode were portrayed as reckless and prone to panicking at the slightest little thing. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 14:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's pretty much the Japanese stereotype on Americans before World War II, it's interesting to see that it's somehow resurfaced (in the anime world at least), and it's not uncommon for anime to portray Japanese characters superior to characters from other countries.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 20:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Again, the AMR in this season looks like an L39, not an NTW-20.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's funny when Saito says &amp;quot;I once was up against a world class sniper in a duel&amp;quot;,And the fact that he had a Blaser 93 Tactical Sniper rifle and The Major had an Walther WA2000 with an extended clip and a type of Red dot or holographic sight. I'm very interested in that fact that everyone else in the UN Special forces squad used full automatics and Kusanagi happen to choose a Semi automatic. [[User:Tac-Shooter|Tac-Shooter]] 17:30, 6 August 2010&lt;br /&gt;
:Well that's because the Major is badass. And come on Tac-shooter. It's MAG, not CLIP. Magazine are the boxes that stores the bullets to feed into the gun to be fired. Clips are strips of metal that feds the magazine and helps load faster. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I thought Major has an assault rifle, but switched to the Walther WA2000 when realizing they were in a sniper dual. And yes America is now three separate country. the American Empire, the United States of America, and the Russo-American Alliance&lt;br /&gt;
link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Ghost_in_the_Shell&lt;br /&gt;
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A running plot point in several of Masamune Shirow's works is that the United States breaks up into several countries, its slightly different in each version.  In the ''Ghost in the Shell'' storyline, they don't explain exactly how this happened, but the USA broke up into &amp;quot;The American Empire&amp;quot; (basically the Red States of the South), &amp;quot;The Russo-American Alliance&amp;quot; (basically the Blue States of the northeast and west coast), and the rump state &amp;quot;United States of America&amp;quot; (a handful of mountain and prairie states).  Keep in mind that a nuclear World War III happened, followed by a non-nuclear World War IV, and their society has been rebuilding for a while; Japan is one of the few really stable countries anymore, with many former states having balkanized into smaller factions.  &amp;quot;The American Empire&amp;quot; faction is really aggressive -- apparently it cannot fight the Russo-American Alliance because this would trigger a new global war, so it vents its frustration by beating up on Latin America a lot.  While not the main antagonists of the series, they're presented as fairly slimy and bad guys often try to defect to them.  Of course its not the &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; United States, so GITS gets to get away with portraying them so negatively.  Keep in mind that this is social fiction from a Japanese standpoint where &amp;quot;hahah in 30 years the US will be having internal problems like Japan did in the 1960's&amp;quot;.  --[[User:V|V]] 22:49, 20 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Derringer==&lt;br /&gt;
There was something about the derringer i have seen off this website &lt;br /&gt;
It's Called the Bond Arms double barrel pistol. it fires .410 shells &amp;amp; .45 long colt&lt;br /&gt;
If anyone can put it here that would be cool&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's called a Bond Arms Snake Slayer, and the Derringer in 2nd GIG is not a Bond Arms. The Bond Arms derringer series has a large switch to open the action located on the left side just behind the lower barrel, a feature not present here. Also, sign your posts.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 19:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Revamp==&lt;br /&gt;
I will be revising this article over the next several days just like the SAC page.&lt;br /&gt;
*Progress: Episodes 26 / 26&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:THE PAGE IS FINISHED!--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:11, 20 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=336044</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-30T19:03:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga retrieves a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: The original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Glock 17 (Generation 1) - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Safety off.&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there is only one spare magazine. It seems that someone thinks stocking up on ammunition is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. Misato fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers. All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more than 10 rounds per magazine, so its difficult to tell which kind she uses.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP on her desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato catches Kaji trying to enter Terminal Dogma]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato checks the magazine in her USP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|Misato racks the slide on her USP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===R-92 Revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a [[R-92|R-92 revolver]]. Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:R92revolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px|R-92 revolver - 9x18mm Makarov]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===CZ-75===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls a [[CZ 75|CZ-75B]] on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg‎ |thumb|500px|none|CZ 75B - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|HKP5-A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9mm.  This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015. A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK_G11_caseless_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 - 4.73x33mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses a [[Panzerfaust 3]] while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PNZFT3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Panzerfaust 3 - 110mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime Series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=336034</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-30T18:28:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP */ that's not ammo, that's her ID card&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga retrieves a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: The original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Glock 17 (Generation 1) - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Safety off.&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there is only one spare magazine. It seems that someone thinks stocking up on ammunition is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. Misato fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers. All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more than 10 rounds per magazine, so its difficult to tell which kind she uses.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP on her desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP next to a box of ammunition. Note the angled magazine baseplate]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato catches Kaji trying to enter Terminal Dogma]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato checks the magazine in her USP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|Misato racks the slide on her USP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===R-92 Revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a [[R-92|R-92 revolver]]. Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:R92revolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px|R-92 revolver - 9x18mm Makarov]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===CZ-75===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls a [[CZ 75|CZ-75B]] on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg‎ |thumb|500px|none|CZ 75B - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|HKP5-A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9mm.  This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015. A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK_G11_caseless_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 - 4.73x33mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses a [[Panzerfaust 3]] while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PNZFT3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Panzerfaust 3 - 110mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime Series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=336033</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=336033"/>
		<updated>2010-09-30T18:27:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga retrieves a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: The original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Glock 17 (Generation 1) - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Safety off.&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there is only one spare magazine. It seems that someone thinks stocking up on ammunition is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. Misato fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers. All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more than 10 rounds per magazine, so its difficult to tell which kind she uses.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP on her desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato's USP next to a box of ammunition. Note the angled magazine baseplate.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato catches Kaji trying to enter Terminal Dogma]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Misato checks the magazine in her USP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|Misato racks the slide on her USP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===R-92 Revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a [[R-92|R-92 revolver]]. Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:R92revolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px|R-92 revolver - 9x18mm Makarov]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===CZ-75===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls a [[CZ 75|CZ-75B]] on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CZ-75B.jpg‎ |thumb|500px|none|CZ 75B - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|HKP5-A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9mm.  This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015. A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK_G11_caseless_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 - 4.73x33mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses a [[Panzerfaust 3]] while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PNZFT3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Panzerfaust 3 - 110mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime Series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=327658</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=327658"/>
		<updated>2010-09-12T16:04:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Steyr MPi 69 */ They state that the JSSDF isn't using explosives because they want the main computer system intact; yes, it seems they pull back once Eva-02 activates&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there are only one spare mag. It seems that someone thinks stocking up ani-personnel weaponary is a waste of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|500px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|500px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. Misato fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers.  All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more than 10 rounds per magazine, so its difficult to tell which kind she uses.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===R-92 revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===CZ-75===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a [[CZ-75]] variant (the top of the slide is from a CZ-75B, but the pistol doesn't seem to be full size).  There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|HKP5-A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard-issue weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or kept one stored in his desk for just such an eventuality.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|500px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Release the safety.'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''I can't! I just can't shoot this thing, Aoba!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Of course you can! You've had basic training!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Maya Ibuki:''' ''But I shot at targets, not at other human beings!'' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; '''Shigeru Aoba:''' ''Idiot! You kill or you die!'' ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|500px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Assault Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|500px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|500px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|500px|&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses a [[Panzerfaust 3]] while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Got a friend who said he use to work at GAINAX and helped with the character design. He said they planned to use a MK23 SOCOM at first to show that Misato is a gun nut. Maybe they just made a fictional .45 USP that &amp;quot;happens&amp;quot; to be real. Or maybe because of the flexibility of NGE(episodes made hastily before airing to suit oppinion or ideas), they gave Misato the &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; USP. This gun appears relatively late, so there is time for editing anyway.--[[User:Teslashark |Teslashark ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to question the credentials here, just to be sure. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Er...I'm sorry, but we need more proof than &amp;quot;I heard it from someone&amp;quot;.  Further...Misato's HK USP doesn't look &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot;, it looks entirely normal.--[[User:V|V]] 23:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's just say that Misato got a normal regular USP, but in the future, they make mags for it that is 18 rounds of 9mm. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*HALT!! HAMMERZEIT!! 9mm 18-round mags exist as the supplied mags for the USP Match and USP Expert in 9mm.  I have a PDF of the USP manual from before 2000 (when H&amp;amp;K was still selling the Match) that clearly says it.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 02:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, have the 18 round 9mm mags been around for 10 years because this anime was made in 1995? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, that I don't know.  I only know that they stopped making the Match in '99, and that the Expert (which came in '98) came after the Match.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 18:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can remember a revolver with a laser sight, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What Volume, which character?--![[User:V|V]] 23:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Vol. 8, Stage 55, a revolver with a laser sight is used in an assassination. Despite the laser sight, the character being shot chides the shooter for lousy aim before the killing blow is scored. To say anything about who it was used on or who was using it would be a major SPOILER. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 14:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Okay I checked that volume and I'm fairly sure it was a [[Ruger Security Six#Speed Six|Ruger Speed Six]] revolver, with an attached laser sight.  I don't think they let us talk about the manga on here.  Further, the manga is a separate continuity and has no real bearing on the show.  At any rate, the point was just to confirm to fans that the shooter was just some anonymous security agent sent by either Gendo or Seele; they *never* intended for us to start guessing it was any of the named cast members, it wasn't even supposed to be a mystery.  I.e. the director's cuts tried to emphasize this more.  So years later when working on the manga, Sadamoto made it a point to actually show the gun that was fired, for the effect of &amp;quot;oh look, its not like the guns that any of the other characters use, its not anyone we knew&amp;quot;.  --[[User:V|V]] 00:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yep, but it's still strange to me that the weapon wasn't a suppressed one given that it was an assassination. And furthermore, the manga was started in 1994, before the TV series. I liked it better than the TV series--it's just too bad the manga won't be finished before the ''Rebuild'' movies finish. But maybe we'll see more guns in the ''Rebuild'' movies soon. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No.  The TV series was conceived of in 1993, and Gainax infamously ran into long production delays.  From the start, they did want the manga to hit store shelves slightly before the TV series...purely as a promotional tie-in.  The entire conception and purpose of making &amp;quot;an Eva manga&amp;quot; was to cross-promote with the TV show, which was their original idea.  As it turned out, the manga was out something like a full year ahead of the TV show's premiere episode -- far longer than they planned -- due to the incredible production delays on the TV show.  But given that this was 15 years ago, it is increasingly irrelevant.  The point is that if we have to categorize them as &amp;quot;a TV show based on a manga comic&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;a spinoff manga comic got made based on the TV show&amp;quot;, the Sadamoto Eva manga falls into the &amp;quot;manga based on TV show&amp;quot; category.  It came out a bit earlier to try to create buzz for the TV show which was in development already. --[[User:V|V]] 16:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It definitely looks like a full size Glock, but since we never get any clues about the calibre we can't be sure. It could therefore be a 17, 20 or a 22, at the very least. I don't know when the 31 or 21 were introduced. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a thought, for full size service semi-automatics in Japan whether law enforcement or military 9mm Parabellum is the only standard round. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 02:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Be in mind, this show took place in the future where the excuse is that they can have whatever they want since Japan is at the forefront of military tech, though in the movie they did mention that their defense budget was lowered gradually for no reason [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why G11 in Other weapons? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The HK G11 was supposed to be a future assault rifle, so why put it in the Other Weapons section? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Got a friend who said he use to work at GAINAX and helped with the character design. He said they planned to use a MK23 SOCOM at first to show that Misato is a gun nut. Maybe they just made a fictional .45 USP that &amp;quot;happens&amp;quot; to be real. Or maybe because of the flexibility of NGE(episodes made hastily before airing to suit oppinion or ideas), they gave Misato the &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; USP. This gun appears relatively late, so there is time for editing anyway.--[[User:Teslashark |Teslashark ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to question the credentials here, just to be sure. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Er...I'm sorry, but we need more proof than &amp;quot;I heard it from someone&amp;quot;.  Further...Misato's HK USP doesn't look &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot;, it looks entirely normal.--[[User:V|V]] 23:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's just say that Misato got a normal regular USP, but in the future, they make mags for it that is 18 rounds of 9mm. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*HALT!! HAMMERZEIT!! 9mm 18-round mags exist as the supplied mags for the USP Match and USP Expert in 9mm.  I have a PDF of the USP manual from before 2000 (when H&amp;amp;K was still selling the Match) that clearly says it.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 02:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, have the 18 round 9mm mags been around for 10 years because this anime was made in 1995? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, that I don't know.  I only know that they stopped making the Match in '99, and that the Expert (which came in '98) came after the Match.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 18:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can remember a revolver with a laser sight, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What Volume, which character?--![[User:V|V]] 23:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Vol. 8, Stage 55, a revolver with a laser sight is used in an assassination. Despite the laser sight, the character being shot chides the shooter for lousy aim before the killing blow is scored. To say anything about who it was used on or who was using it would be a major SPOILER. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 14:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Okay I checked that volume and I'm fairly sure it was a [[Ruger Security Six#Speed Six|Ruger Speed Six]] revolver, with an attached laser sight.  I don't think they let us talk about the manga on here.  Further, the manga is a separate continuity and has no real bearing on the show.  At any rate, the point was just to confirm to fans that the shooter was just some anonymous security agent sent by either Gendo or Seele; they *never* intended for us to start guessing it was any of the named cast members, it wasn't even supposed to be a mystery.  I.e. the director's cuts tried to emphasize this more.  So years later when working on the manga, Sadamoto made it a point to actually show the gun that was fired, for the effect of &amp;quot;oh look, its not like the guns that any of the other characters use, its not anyone we knew&amp;quot;.  --[[User:V|V]] 00:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It definitely looks like a full size Glock, but since we never get any clues about the calibre we can't be sure. It could therefore be a 17, 20 or a 22, at the very least. I don't know when the 31 or 21 were introduced. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a thought, for full size service semi-automatics in Japan whether law enforcement or military 9mm Parabellum is the only standard round. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 02:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Be in mind, this show took place in the future where the excuse is that they can have whatever they want since Japan is at the forefront of military tech, though in the movie they did mention that their defense budget was lowered gradually for no reason [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why G11 in Other weapons? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The HK G11 was supposed to be a future assault rifle, so why put it in the Other Weapons section? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Got a friend who said he use to work at GAINAX and helped with the character design. He said they planned to use a MK23 SOCOM at first to show that Misato is a gun nut. Maybe they just made a fictional .45 USP that &amp;quot;happens&amp;quot; to be real. Or maybe because of the flexibility of NGE(episodes made hastily before airing to suit oppinion or ideas), they gave Misato the &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; USP. This gun appears relatively late, so there is time for editing anyway.--[[User:Teslashark |Teslashark ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to question the credentials here, just to be sure. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Er...I'm sorry, but we need more proof than &amp;quot;I heard it from someone&amp;quot;.  Further...Misato's HK USP doesn't look &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot;, it looks entirely normal.--[[User:V|V]] 23:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can remember a revolver with a laser sight, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What Volume, which character?--![[User:V|V]] 23:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It definitely looks like a full size Glock, but since we never get any clues about the calibre we can't be sure. It could therefore be a 17, 20 or a 22, at the very least. I don't know when the 31 or 21 were introduced. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a thought, for full size service semi-automatics in Japan whether law enforcement or military 9mm Parabellum is the only standard round. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 02:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* What variant of HK USP does Misato use? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Got a friend who said he use to work at GAINAX and helped with the character design. He said they planned to use a MK23 SOCOM at first to show that Misato is a gun nut. Maybe they just made a fictional .45 USP that &amp;quot;happens&amp;quot; to be real. Or maybe because of the flexibility of NGE(episodes made hastily before airing to suit oppinion or ideas), they gave Misato the &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; USP. This gun appears relatively late, so there is time for editing anyway.--[[User:Teslashark |Teslashark ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to question the credentials here, just to be sure. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Er...I'm sorry, but we need more proof than &amp;quot;I heard it from someone&amp;quot;.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can remember a revolver with a laser sight, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What Volume, which character?--![[User:V|V]] 23:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It definitely looks like a full size Glock, but since we never get any clues about the calibre we can't be sure. It could therefore be a 17, 20 or a 22, at the very least. I don't know when the 31 or 21 were introduced. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a thought, for full size service semi-automatics in Japan whether law enforcement or military 9mm Parabellum is the only standard round. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 02:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Got a friend who said he use to work at GAINAX and helped with the character design. He said they planned to use a MK23 SOCOM at first to show that Misato is a gun nut. Maybe they just made a fictional .45 USP that &amp;quot;happens&amp;quot; to be real. Or maybe because of the flexibility of NGE(episodes made hastily before airing to suit oppinion or ideas), they gave Misato the &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; USP. This gun appears relatively late, so there is time for editing anyway.--[[User:Teslashark |Teslashark ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to question the credentials here, just to be sure. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can remember a revolver with a laser sight, at least.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What Volume, which character?--![[User:V|V]] 23:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It definitely looks like a full size Glock, but since we never get any clues about the calibre we can't be sure. It could therefore be a 17, 20 or a 22, at the very least. I don't know when the 31 or 21 were introduced. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a thought, for full size service semi-automatics in Japan whether law enforcement or military 9mm Parabellum is the only standard round. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 02:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=M18A1_Claymore&amp;diff=300194</id>
		<title>M18A1 Claymore</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The [[M18A1 Claymore]] anti-personnel mine has appeared in the following films, television series, and video games being used by the following actors:'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M18a1 07.jpg|thumb|right|400px|M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel mine]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Film ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as John Matrix in ''[[Commando]]'' (with fictional wireless detonator)&lt;br /&gt;
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* U.S. Navy SEALs in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Jeremy Renner]] as Brian Gamble and [[Colin Farrell]] as Officer Jim Street in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Simon Yam]] as Ah Lok in ''[[Bullet in the Head]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Brian Geraghty]] as Fergus in ''[[Jarhead]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Thomas Jane]] as Frank Castle in ''[[Punisher, The (2004)|The Punisher]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''[[The Park is Mine]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* U.S.soldiers in ''[[Platoon]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Commandos in ''[[Predator]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* U.S. and ARVN soldiers in ''[[The Green Berets]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Sylvester Stallone]] as John Rambo in ''[[Rambo (2008)|Rambo]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''[[Sniper 2]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''[[Proof of Life]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Television ===&lt;br /&gt;
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF&lt;br /&gt;
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width=&amp;quot;170&amp;quot;|'''Actor'''&lt;br /&gt;
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width=&amp;quot;200&amp;quot;|'''Character'''&lt;br /&gt;
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width=&amp;quot;250&amp;quot;|'''Show Title / Episode'''&lt;br /&gt;
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width=&amp;quot;250&amp;quot;|'''Note'''&lt;br /&gt;
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|  || U.S. Marines || [[Generation Kill]] ||  || 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Video Games ===&lt;br /&gt;
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF&lt;br /&gt;
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width=&amp;quot;300&amp;quot;|'''Game Title'''&lt;br /&gt;
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width=&amp;quot;150&amp;quot;|'''Referred as'''&lt;br /&gt;
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width=&amp;quot;250&amp;quot;|'''Mods'''&lt;br /&gt;
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width=&amp;quot;200&amp;quot;|'''Notation'''&lt;br /&gt;
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width=&amp;quot;100&amp;quot;|''' Release Date'''&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Vietcong]] ||  ||  || || 2003&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]] ||  ||  ||  || 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]] ||  ||  ||  || 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Conflict: Desert Storm II: Back to Baghdad]] ||  ||  ||  || 2003&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Crysis]] ||  ||  ||  || 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Metal Gear Solid]] ||  ||  ||  || 1998&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes]] ||  ||  ||  || 2004&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]] ||  ||  ||  || 2004&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Battlefield 2]] ||  ||  ||  || 2005&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Battlefield 2: Modern Combat]] ||  ||  ||  || 2005&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Battlefield: Vietnam]] || || || || 2003&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Conflict: Vietnam]] || ||  triggered by either proximity or remote || || 2004&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Delta Force 2 (VG)]] || || || || 1999&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Project Reality]] ||  ||  ||  || 2005&lt;br /&gt;
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| [[Project Reality]] || Type 66 ||  ||  || 2005&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Mine]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Predators (2010)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* M18A1 Claymore */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the film ''Predators'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-Teaser.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Predators'' (2010)]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Predators''''' is the 2010 sequel to the films ''[[Predator]]'' and ''[[Predator 2]]''. Produced by Robert Rodriguez, it stars [[Adrien Brody]] as Royce, a mercenary captured and sent to a Predator homeworld along with seven other 'human' predators.'  This is a Provisional page based on the film script and behind the scenes photos.  Images are taken from a publicly released sneak peak video presented by Robert Rodriguez.  '''The 'official' scheduled released day is July 7th, 2010.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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==AA-12==&lt;br /&gt;
Royce ([[Adrien Brody]]), the leader of the humans carries an [[AA-12]] throughout the movie, it is fitted with a drum magazine loaded with Frag-12 rounds, a Surefire M900 weaponlight foregrip, and custom camo paint that appears to be similar to the US Army's pixelized UCP pattern.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AA12FullAutoShotGun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MPS Auto Assault-12, 12 Gauge ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators12a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|''This planet is a game preserve . . . and we're the game.'' Royce ([[Adrien Brody]]) with his AA-12 Shotgun as Stans ([[Walton Goggins]]) rests against a tree.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators03a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming Royce [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators11a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|[[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators09a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators08a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|An alternate angle of a behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PreadatorsAA-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce with his AA-12 in a promotional image]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
Cuchillo ([[Danny Trejo]]), a Mexican Drug Cartel enforcer, is seen with two [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K]]'s strapped to his back, in a manner similar to Chuck Norris' Mini Uzi harness in [[Invasion USA]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5KN 9x19mm - updated with the Navy Trigger Group. The Navy trigger group dates to 1985, the MP5K-PDW to 1991. The MP5K is available in the newer MP5KN, MP5KA4, and MP5KA5 configurations, which all have the ambidextrous trigger group.  Another 'well used' actual movie blank firing gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredatorsMP5K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo with his MP5K's in a promotional image. Note the leather covers on the foregrips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo with his MP5K's. Note the barrel of his 1911 holstered at the back of his belt]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo fires his MP5K's.]]&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.predators-movie.com/wallpapers/wallpaper6_standard.jpg mp5k's have Native American covers on the foregrips, also appears to be linked up to shoulder rigs like Alice's from Resident Evil Apocalypse&lt;br /&gt;
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==M134 Hand held Minigun==&lt;br /&gt;
Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]), a member of the Russian VDV Paratroops carries a [[GE M134 minigun#Hand-Held M134 Minigun|hand-held M134 Minigun]] substituting for a GShG 7.62mm machinegun thats described in the script, reminiscent of the gun used by [[Jesse Ventura]] in the [[Predator|original film]]. The gun is later destroyed by a well aimed shot from a Predator.  When we first see him use it, the barrels don't appear to be spinning.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Minigun 2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Handheld M134 Minigun with chainsaw grip.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds002.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) with his GE M134 Minigun. This is a prop weapon, probably of rubber or some other flexible material as it appears to be &amp;quot;bent&amp;quot; in several places. The GE style barrel clamps normally have a central shaft running through all four of the discs, which is not present on this prop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators15a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew photographing [[Oleg Taktarov]] with his M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators16a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew photographing [[Oleg Taktarov]] as he fires his M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-m134.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A publicity still of Nikolai and the M134 minigun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blaser R93 LRS2==&lt;br /&gt;
Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]), an IDF sniper, carries a [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]] fitted with an Elcan DigitalHunter scope (substituting for the Heckler &amp;amp; Koch PSG1 described in the script).  In several scenes, we hear the scope adjusting even though she isn't hitting any of the buttons.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Blaser R93 LRS2''' Precision Sniper Rifle - .338 Lapua Magnum.  The rifle is usually  outfitted with either a Parker Hale or Harris Bipod.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds003.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Isabelle with her Blaser R93 sniper rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators04a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) aims her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators05a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A better shot of the high tech scope used by Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) on her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators13a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Alice Braga]] with her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredatorsBlaserAA-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce and Isabelle face back to back with their weapons.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45 w' Compensator ==&lt;br /&gt;
The main sidearm of Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]). She prepares to kill herself with it before a Predator Hound can get her, only to be saved at the last minute.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HH45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45 - .45 ACP]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Displayimage.php?pid=15531.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) about to save herself from a painful death via Predator Hound]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS Inox==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] with custom grips and a compensator is carried by Hanzo ([[Louis Changchien]]), a Yakuza assassin who uses it until he acquires a katana.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm..]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators14a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of [[Louis Ozawa Changchien]] firing his Beretta 92FS with compensator - 9mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo draws his Beretta, showing good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo drawing his Beretta, showing the custom grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzoo aims his Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo fires his Beretta, eyes open, showing the odd muzzle flash produced by the compensator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AKMS==&lt;br /&gt;
Mombasa ([[Mahershalalhashbaz Ali]]) , a member of a RUF death squad, carries an [[AKMS]] rifle. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predator02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Mombasa  relaxes between takes against a tree.  He has an underfolder AK - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators10a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew and [[Mahershalalhashbaz Ali]] aiming his AKMS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mombasa's AKMS is seen in the back.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-akms.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mombasa aims his AKMS in a publicity still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown 1911==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[M1911 pistol series|M1911-type pistol]] is carried by Royce in a thigh holster.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce's 1911 circled in red.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another look at Royce's 1911.]]&lt;br /&gt;
On the big screen, there are some great close-ups. I'm pretty sure it is a Kimber Warrior; which is odd because of his tan shemagh scarf and vest, I'd think he'd carry a Kimber Desert Warrior. Weird. -- ST0NEFIELD&lt;br /&gt;
Black Kimber Warrior's do come with those grips stock. So I&lt;br /&gt;
m sure thats what it is.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
-1911 style autos are so customizable that it could be anything, not necessarily a Kimber. Without a clear image of the stamps on the slide, it's not going to be possible to narrow it down to any specific 1911 model.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your not gonna get slide stamps as the pistol never leaves the holster, though based on the grips and odd magazine butt plate I too say kimber&lt;br /&gt;
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The Kimber Desert Warrior and Warrior are gimmicks by Kimber to make money off of the Pistol they produced to equip USMC (MARSOC) operators. The Warrior is supposed to be built to the same specs, and the Desert Warrior is the same with a brown paint job. Most real fighters would never field such a cartoon pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like it has a nickel or stainless steel finish. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can almost swear that it had a TRP style magazine well...you could only really see it when Royce grabbed the grip that one time during the entire movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It did have a magwell like that. Just saw it. But you can get those after market to so dosent mean its a TRP 1911. The grips are Kimber tan ones. They just get dirty so kind look like ACU. Shame he never used it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kimber are not the only ones that uses or has access to G10 grips...there are other 1911 makers that use that styling of grips.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mombasa uses what looks like a standered GI 1911 when he has Stans's shank to his throat.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 23:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nicholai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) uses a handgun of unknown make or model, after his minigun is destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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It looked like a Makarov to me. This naturally would fit his character.&lt;br /&gt;
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Im fairly certain it was a tokarev&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mk 2 hand grenade==&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[Mk 2 hand grenade]] is seen among the weapons in Noland's ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) arsenal. Royce later strings several of them together in a trap for the Black Super Predator.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mk 2 hand grenade|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A barrel with assorted weapons on it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M18A1 Claymore==&lt;br /&gt;
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When Nikolai sees Noland's weapons cache, he eyes a [[M18A1 Claymore]] anti-personnel mine on the table.  He's startled because its a Vietnam-era Claymore, revealing just how long Noland has been on the planet.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nikolai apparently grabbed the Claymore mine offscreen, because he is seen using it prominently later.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Noland's weapons cache==&lt;br /&gt;
When the group are taken to Noland's cave, they see he's collected a mixture of weapons, some human and some alien. Of the human weapons there are [[CAR-15]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 29|S&amp;amp;W M29 .44 Magnum]] and an unknown shotgun.  There is also an M79 grenade launcher, though it is only used to fire a flare.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Predators06a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Noland ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) shows up with a alien rifle]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A barrel with assorted weapons on it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Special Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sneak Peak at the new Predators===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators18a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) gets a face to face meeting with one of the new Super Predators, note Nikolai's hands aren't empty.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators17a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A sneak peak of the Flusher Predator, and the Predator Hound on the Predator &amp;quot;Game&amp;quot; preserve planet.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Action Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Predator]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Predators (2010)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the film ''Predators'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-Teaser.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Predators'' (2010)]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Predators''''' is the 2010 sequel to the films ''[[Predator]]'' and ''[[Predator 2]]''. Produced by Robert Rodriguez, it stars [[Adrien Brody]] as Royce, a mercenary captured and sent to a Predator homeworld along with seven other 'human' predators.'  This is a Provisional page based on the film script and behind the scenes photos.  Images are taken from a publicly released sneak peak video presented by Robert Rodriguez.  '''The 'official' scheduled released day is July 7th, 2010.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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==AA-12==&lt;br /&gt;
Royce ([[Adrien Brody]]), the leader of the humans carries an [[AA-12]] throughout the movie, it is fitted with a drum magazine loaded with Frag-12 rounds, a Surefire M900 weaponlight foregrip, and custom camo paint that appears to be similar to the US Army's pixelized UCP pattern.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AA12FullAutoShotGun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MPS Auto Assault-12, 12 Gauge ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators12a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|''This planet is a game preserve . . . and we're the game.'' Royce ([[Adrien Brody]]) with his AA-12 Shotgun as Stans ([[Walton Goggins]]) rests against a tree.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators03a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming Royce [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators11a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|[[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators09a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators08a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|An alternate angle of a behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PreadatorsAA-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce with his AA-12 in a promotional image]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
Cuchillo ([[Danny Trejo]]), a Mexican Drug Cartel enforcer, is seen with two [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K]]'s strapped to his back, in a manner similar to Chuck Norris' Mini Uzi harness in [[Invasion USA]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5KN 9x19mm - updated with the Navy Trigger Group. The Navy trigger group dates to 1985, the MP5K-PDW to 1991. The MP5K is available in the newer MP5KN, MP5KA4, and MP5KA5 configurations, which all have the ambidextrous trigger group.  Another 'well used' actual movie blank firing gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredatorsMP5K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo with his MP5K's in a promotional image. Note the leather covers on the foregrips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo with his MP5K's. Note the barrel of his 1911 holstered at the back of his belt]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo fires his MP5K's.]]&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.predators-movie.com/wallpapers/wallpaper6_standard.jpg mp5k's have Native American covers on the foregrips, also appears to be linked up to shoulder rigs like Alice's from Resident Evil Apocalypse&lt;br /&gt;
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==M134 Hand held Minigun==&lt;br /&gt;
Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]), a member of the Russian VDV Paratroops carries a [[GE M134 minigun#Hand-Held M134 Minigun|hand-held M134 Minigun]] substituting for a GShG 7.62mm machinegun thats described in the script, reminiscent of the gun used by [[Jesse Ventura]] in the [[Predator|original film]]. The gun is later destroyed by a well aimed shot from a Predator.  When we first see him use it, the barrels don't appear to be spinning.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Minigun 2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Handheld M134 Minigun with chainsaw grip.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds002.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) with his GE M134 Minigun. This is a prop weapon, probably of rubber or some other flexible material as it appears to be &amp;quot;bent&amp;quot; in several places. The GE style barrel clamps normally have a central shaft running through all four of the discs, which is not present on this prop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators15a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew photographing [[Oleg Taktarov]] with his M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators16a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew photographing [[Oleg Taktarov]] as he fires his M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-m134.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A publicity still of Nikolai and the M134 minigun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blaser R93 LRS2==&lt;br /&gt;
Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]), an IDF sniper, carries a [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]] fitted with an Elcan DigitalHunter scope (substituting for the Heckler &amp;amp; Koch PSG1 described in the script).  In several scenes, we hear the scope adjusting even though she isn't hitting any of the buttons.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Blaser R93 LRS2''' Precision Sniper Rifle - .338 Lapua Magnum.  The rifle is usually  outfitted with either a Parker Hale or Harris Bipod.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds003.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Isabelle with her Blaser R93 sniper rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators04a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) aims her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators05a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A better shot of the high tech scope used by Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) on her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators13a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Alice Braga]] with her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredatorsBlaserAA-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce and Isabelle face back to back with their weapons.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45 w' Compensator ==&lt;br /&gt;
The main sidearm of Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]). She prepares to kill herself with it before a Predator Hound can get her, only to be saved at the last minute.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HH45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45 - .45 ACP]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Displayimage.php?pid=15531.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) about to save herself from a painful death via Predator Hound]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS Inox==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] with custom grips and a compensator is carried by Hanzo ([[Louis Changchien]]), a Yakuza assassin who uses it until he acquires a katana.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm..]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators14a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of [[Louis Ozawa Changchien]] firing his Beretta 92FS with compensator - 9mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo draws his Beretta, showing good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo drawing his Beretta, showing the custom grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzoo aims his Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo fires his Beretta, eyes open, showing the odd muzzle flash produced by the compensator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AKMS==&lt;br /&gt;
Mombasa ([[Mahershalalhashbaz Ali]]) , a member of a RUF death squad, carries an [[AKMS]] rifle. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predator02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Mombasa  relaxes between takes against a tree.  He has an underfolder AK - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators10a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew and [[Mahershalalhashbaz Ali]] aiming his AKMS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mombasa's AKMS is seen in the back.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-akms.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mombasa aims his AKMS in a publicity still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown 1911==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[M1911 pistol series|M1911-type pistol]] is carried by Royce in a thigh holster.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce's 1911 circled in red.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another look at Royce's 1911.]]&lt;br /&gt;
On the big screen, there are some great close-ups. I'm pretty sure it is a Kimber Warrior; which is odd because of his tan shemagh scarf and vest, I'd think he'd carry a Kimber Desert Warrior. Weird. -- ST0NEFIELD&lt;br /&gt;
Black Kimber Warrior's do come with those grips stock. So I&lt;br /&gt;
m sure thats what it is.&lt;br /&gt;
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-1911 style autos are so customizable that it could be anything, not necessarily a Kimber. Without a clear image of the stamps on the slide, it's not going to be possible to narrow it down to any specific 1911 model.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your not gonna get slide stamps as the pistol never leaves the holster, though based on the grips and odd magazine butt plate I too say kimber&lt;br /&gt;
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The Kimber Desert Warrior and Warrior are gimmicks by Kimber to make money off of the Pistol they produced to equip USMC (MARSOC) operators. The Warrior is supposed to be built to the same specs, and the Desert Warrior is the same with a brown paint job. Most real fighters would never field such a cartoon pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like it has a nickel or stainless steel finish. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can almost swear that it had a TRP style magazine well...you could only really see it when Royce grabbed the grip that one time during the entire movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It did have a magwell like that. Just saw it. But you can get those after market to so dosent mean its a TRP 1911. The grips are Kimber tan ones. They just get dirty so kind look like ACU. Shame he never used it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kimber are not the only ones that uses or has access to G10 grips...there are other 1911 makers that use that styling of grips.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mombasa uses what looks like a standered GI 1911 when he has Stans's shank to his throat.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 23:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nicholai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) uses a handgun of unknown make or model, after his minigun is destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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It looked like a Makarov to me. This naturally would fit his character.&lt;br /&gt;
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Im fairly certain it was a tokarev&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mk 2 hand grenade==&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[Mk 2 hand grenade]] is seen among the weapons in Noland's ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) arsenal. Royce later strings several of them together in a trap for the Black Super Predator.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mk 2 hand grenade|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A barrel with assorted weapons on it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M18A1 Claymore==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Noland's weapons cache==&lt;br /&gt;
When the group are taken to Noland's cave, they see he's collected a mixture of weapons, some human and some alien. Of the human weapons there are [[CAR-15]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 29|S&amp;amp;W M29 .44 Magnum]] and an unknown shotgun.  There is also an M79 grenade launcher, though it is only used to fire a flare.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Predators06a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Noland ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) shows up with a alien rifle]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A barrel with assorted weapons on it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Special Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sneak Peak at the new Predators===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators18a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) gets a face to face meeting with one of the new Super Predators, note Nikolai's hands aren't empty.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators17a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A sneak peak of the Flusher Predator, and the Predator Hound on the Predator &amp;quot;Game&amp;quot; preserve planet.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Action Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Predator]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Predators (2010)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Mk 2 hand grenade */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the film ''Predators'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-Teaser.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Predators'' (2010)]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Predators''''' is the 2010 sequel to the films ''[[Predator]]'' and ''[[Predator 2]]''. Produced by Robert Rodriguez, it stars [[Adrien Brody]] as Royce, a mercenary captured and sent to a Predator homeworld along with seven other 'human' predators.'  This is a Provisional page based on the film script and behind the scenes photos.  Images are taken from a publicly released sneak peak video presented by Robert Rodriguez.  '''The 'official' scheduled released day is July 7th, 2010.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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==AA-12==&lt;br /&gt;
Royce ([[Adrien Brody]]), the leader of the humans carries an [[AA-12]] throughout the movie, it is fitted with a drum magazine loaded with Frag-12 rounds, a Surefire M900 weaponlight foregrip, and custom camo paint that appears to be similar to the US Army's pixelized UCP pattern.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AA12FullAutoShotGun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MPS Auto Assault-12, 12 Gauge ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators12a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|''This planet is a game preserve . . . and we're the game.'' Royce ([[Adrien Brody]]) with his AA-12 Shotgun as Stans ([[Walton Goggins]]) rests against a tree.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators03a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming Royce [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators11a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|[[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators09a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators08a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|An alternate angle of a behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PreadatorsAA-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce with his AA-12 in a promotional image]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
Cuchillo ([[Danny Trejo]]), a Mexican Drug Cartel enforcer, is seen with two [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K]]'s strapped to his back, in a manner similar to Chuck Norris' Mini Uzi harness in [[Invasion USA]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5KN 9x19mm - updated with the Navy Trigger Group. The Navy trigger group dates to 1985, the MP5K-PDW to 1991. The MP5K is available in the newer MP5KN, MP5KA4, and MP5KA5 configurations, which all have the ambidextrous trigger group.  Another 'well used' actual movie blank firing gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredatorsMP5K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo with his MP5K's in a promotional image. Note the leather covers on the foregrips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo with his MP5K's. Note the barrel of his 1911 holstered at the back of his belt]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo fires his MP5K's.]]&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.predators-movie.com/wallpapers/wallpaper6_standard.jpg mp5k's have Native American covers on the foregrips, also appears to be linked up to shoulder rigs like Alice's from Resident Evil Apocalypse&lt;br /&gt;
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==M134 Hand held Minigun==&lt;br /&gt;
Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]), a member of the Russian VDV Paratroops carries a [[GE M134 minigun#Hand-Held M134 Minigun|hand-held M134 Minigun]] substituting for a GShG 7.62mm machinegun thats described in the script, reminiscent of the gun used by [[Jesse Ventura]] in the [[Predator|original film]]. The gun is later destroyed by a well aimed shot from a Predator.  When we first see him use it, the barrels don't appear to be spinning.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Minigun 2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Handheld M134 Minigun with chainsaw grip.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds002.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) with his GE M134 Minigun. This is a prop weapon, probably of rubber or some other flexible material as it appears to be &amp;quot;bent&amp;quot; in several places. The GE style barrel clamps normally have a central shaft running through all four of the discs, which is not present on this prop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators15a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew photographing [[Oleg Taktarov]] with his M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators16a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew photographing [[Oleg Taktarov]] as he fires his M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-m134.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A publicity still of Nikolai and the M134 minigun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Blaser R93 LRS2==&lt;br /&gt;
Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]), an IDF sniper, carries a [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]] fitted with an Elcan DigitalHunter scope (substituting for the Heckler &amp;amp; Koch PSG1 described in the script).  In several scenes, we hear the scope adjusting even though she isn't hitting any of the buttons.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Blaser R93 LRS2''' Precision Sniper Rifle - .338 Lapua Magnum.  The rifle is usually  outfitted with either a Parker Hale or Harris Bipod.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds003.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Isabelle with her Blaser R93 sniper rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators04a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) aims her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators05a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A better shot of the high tech scope used by Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) on her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators13a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Alice Braga]] with her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredatorsBlaserAA-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce and Isabelle face back to back with their weapons.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45 w' Compensator ==&lt;br /&gt;
The main sidearm of Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]). She prepares to kill herself with it before a Predator Hound can get her, only to be saved at the last minute.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HH45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45 - .45 ACP]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Displayimage.php?pid=15531.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) about to save herself from a painful death via Predator Hound]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS Inox==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] with custom grips and a compensator is carried by Hanzo ([[Louis Changchien]]), a Yakuza assassin who uses it until he acquires a katana.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm..]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators14a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of [[Louis Ozawa Changchien]] firing his Beretta 92FS with compensator - 9mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo draws his Beretta, showing good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo drawing his Beretta, showing the custom grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzoo aims his Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo fires his Beretta, eyes open, showing the odd muzzle flash produced by the compensator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AKMS==&lt;br /&gt;
Mombasa ([[Mahershalalhashbaz Ali]]) , a member of a RUF death squad, carries an [[AKMS]] rifle. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predator02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Mombasa  relaxes between takes against a tree.  He has an underfolder AK - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators10a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew and [[Mahershalalhashbaz Ali]] aiming his AKMS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mombasa's AKMS is seen in the back.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-akms.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mombasa aims his AKMS in a publicity still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown 1911==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[M1911 pistol series|M1911-type pistol]] is carried by Royce in a thigh holster.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce's 1911 circled in red.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another look at Royce's 1911.]]&lt;br /&gt;
On the big screen, there are some great close-ups. I'm pretty sure it is a Kimber Warrior; which is odd because of his tan shemagh scarf and vest, I'd think he'd carry a Kimber Desert Warrior. Weird. -- ST0NEFIELD&lt;br /&gt;
Black Kimber Warrior's do come with those grips stock. So I&lt;br /&gt;
m sure thats what it is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-1911 style autos are so customizable that it could be anything, not necessarily a Kimber. Without a clear image of the stamps on the slide, it's not going to be possible to narrow it down to any specific 1911 model.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Your not gonna get slide stamps as the pistol never leaves the holster, though based on the grips and odd magazine butt plate I too say kimber&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Kimber Desert Warrior and Warrior are gimmicks by Kimber to make money off of the Pistol they produced to equip USMC (MARSOC) operators. The Warrior is supposed to be built to the same specs, and the Desert Warrior is the same with a brown paint job. Most real fighters would never field such a cartoon pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like it has a nickel or stainless steel finish. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can almost swear that it had a TRP style magazine well...you could only really see it when Royce grabbed the grip that one time during the entire movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It did have a magwell like that. Just saw it. But you can get those after market to so dosent mean its a TRP 1911. The grips are Kimber tan ones. They just get dirty so kind look like ACU. Shame he never used it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kimber are not the only ones that uses or has access to G10 grips...there are other 1911 makers that use that styling of grips.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mombasa uses what looks like a standered GI 1911 when he has Stans's shank to his throat.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 23:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nicholai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) uses a handgun of unknown make or model, after his minigun is destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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It looked like a Makarov to me. This naturally would fit his character.&lt;br /&gt;
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Im fairly certain it was a tokarev&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mk 2 hand grenade==&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[Mk 2 hand grenade]] is seen among the weapons in Noland's ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) arsenal. Royce later strings several of them together in a trap for the Black Super Predator.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mk 2 hand grenade|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A barrel with assorted weapons on it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Noland's weapons cache==&lt;br /&gt;
When the group are taken to Noland's cave, they see he's collected a mixture of weapons, some human and some alien. Of the human weapons there are [[CAR-15]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 29|S&amp;amp;W M29 .44 Magnum]] and an unknown shotgun.  There is also an M79 grenade launcher, though it is only used to fire a flare.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Predators06a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Noland ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) shows up with a alien rifle]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A barrel with assorted weapons on it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Special Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sneak Peak at the new Predators===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators18a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) gets a face to face meeting with one of the new Super Predators, note Nikolai's hands aren't empty.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators17a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A sneak peak of the Flusher Predator, and the Predator Hound on the Predator &amp;quot;Game&amp;quot; preserve planet.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Predators (2010)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the film ''Predators'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-Teaser.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Predators'' (2010)]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Predators''''' is the 2010 sequel to the films ''[[Predator]]'' and ''[[Predator 2]]''. Produced by Robert Rodriguez, it stars [[Adrien Brody]] as Royce, a mercenary captured and sent to a Predator homeworld along with seven other 'human' predators.'  This is a Provisional page based on the film script and behind the scenes photos.  Images are taken from a publicly released sneak peak video presented by Robert Rodriguez.  '''The 'official' scheduled released day is July 7th, 2010.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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==AA-12==&lt;br /&gt;
Royce ([[Adrien Brody]]), the leader of the humans carries an [[AA-12]] throughout the movie, it is fitted with a drum magazine loaded with Frag-12 rounds, a Surefire M900 weaponlight foregrip, and custom camo paint that appears to be similar to the US Army's pixelized UCP pattern.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AA12FullAutoShotGun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MPS Auto Assault-12, 12 Gauge ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators12a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|''This planet is a game preserve . . . and we're the game.'' Royce ([[Adrien Brody]]) with his AA-12 Shotgun as Stans ([[Walton Goggins]]) rests against a tree.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators03a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming Royce [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators11a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|[[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 Shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators09a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators08a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|An alternate angle of a behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Adrien Brody]] with his AA-12 ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PreadatorsAA-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce with his AA-12 in a promotional image]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
Cuchillo ([[Danny Trejo]]), a Mexican Drug Cartel enforcer, is seen with two [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K]]'s strapped to his back, in a manner similar to Chuck Norris' Mini Uzi harness in [[Invasion USA]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5KN 9x19mm - updated with the Navy Trigger Group. The Navy trigger group dates to 1985, the MP5K-PDW to 1991. The MP5K is available in the newer MP5KN, MP5KA4, and MP5KA5 configurations, which all have the ambidextrous trigger group.  Another 'well used' actual movie blank firing gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredatorsMP5K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo with his MP5K's in a promotional image. Note the leather covers on the foregrips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo with his MP5K's. Note the barrel of his 1911 holstered at the back of his belt]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuchillo fires his MP5K's.]]&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.predators-movie.com/wallpapers/wallpaper6_standard.jpg mp5k's have Native American covers on the foregrips, also appears to be linked up to shoulder rigs like Alice's from Resident Evil Apocalypse&lt;br /&gt;
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==M134 Hand held Minigun==&lt;br /&gt;
Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]), a member of the Russian VDV Paratroops carries a [[GE M134 minigun#Hand-Held M134 Minigun|hand-held M134 Minigun]] substituting for a GShG 7.62mm machinegun thats described in the script, reminiscent of the gun used by [[Jesse Ventura]] in the [[Predator|original film]]. The gun is later destroyed by a well aimed shot from a Predator.  When we first see him use it, the barrels don't appear to be spinning.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Minigun 2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Handheld M134 Minigun with chainsaw grip.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds002.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) with his GE M134 Minigun. This is a prop weapon, probably of rubber or some other flexible material as it appears to be &amp;quot;bent&amp;quot; in several places. The GE style barrel clamps normally have a central shaft running through all four of the discs, which is not present on this prop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators15a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew photographing [[Oleg Taktarov]] with his M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators16a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew photographing [[Oleg Taktarov]] as he fires his M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-m134.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A publicity still of Nikolai and the M134 minigun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blaser R93 LRS2==&lt;br /&gt;
Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]), an IDF sniper, carries a [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]] fitted with an Elcan DigitalHunter scope (substituting for the Heckler &amp;amp; Koch PSG1 described in the script).  In several scenes, we hear the scope adjusting even though she isn't hitting any of the buttons.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Blaser R93 LRS2''' Precision Sniper Rifle - .338 Lapua Magnum.  The rifle is usually  outfitted with either a Parker Hale or Harris Bipod.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds003.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Isabelle with her Blaser R93 sniper rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators04a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) aims her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators05a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A better shot of the high tech scope used by Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) on her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators13a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of a cameraman filming [[Alice Braga]] with her Blaser R93 LRS2 Sniper rifle with Elcan DigitalHunter scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredatorsBlaserAA-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce and Isabelle face back to back with their weapons.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45 w' Compensator ==&lt;br /&gt;
The main sidearm of Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]). She prepares to kill herself with it before a Predator Hound can get her, only to be saved at the last minute.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HH45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK45 - .45 ACP]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Displayimage.php?pid=15531.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Isabelle ([[Alice Braga]]) about to save herself from a painful death via Predator Hound]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS Inox==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] with custom grips and a compensator is carried by Hanzo ([[Louis Changchien]]), a Yakuza assassin who uses it until he acquires a katana.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm..]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators14a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of [[Louis Ozawa Changchien]] firing his Beretta 92FS with compensator - 9mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo draws his Beretta, showing good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo drawing his Beretta, showing the custom grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzoo aims his Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanzo fires his Beretta, eyes open, showing the odd muzzle flash produced by the compensator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AKMS==&lt;br /&gt;
Mombasa ([[Mahershalalhashbaz Ali]]) , a member of a RUF death squad, carries an [[AKMS]] rifle. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predator02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Mombasa  relaxes between takes against a tree.  He has an underfolder AK - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators10a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes shot of the film crew and [[Mahershalalhashbaz Ali]] aiming his AKMS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mombasa's AKMS is seen in the back.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators-akms.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mombasa aims his AKMS in a publicity still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown 1911==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[M1911 pistol series|M1911-type pistol]] is carried by Royce in a thigh holster.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce's 1911 circled in red.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another look at Royce's 1911.]]&lt;br /&gt;
On the big screen, there are some great close-ups. I'm pretty sure it is a Kimber Warrior; which is odd because of his tan shemagh scarf and vest, I'd think he'd carry a Kimber Desert Warrior. Weird. -- ST0NEFIELD&lt;br /&gt;
Black Kimber Warrior's do come with those grips stock. So I&lt;br /&gt;
m sure thats what it is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-1911 style autos are so customizable that it could be anything, not necessarily a Kimber. Without a clear image of the stamps on the slide, it's not going to be possible to narrow it down to any specific 1911 model.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Your not gonna get slide stamps as the pistol never leaves the holster, though based on the grips and odd magazine butt plate I too say kimber&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Kimber Desert Warrior and Warrior are gimmicks by Kimber to make money off of the Pistol they produced to equip USMC (MARSOC) operators. The Warrior is supposed to be built to the same specs, and the Desert Warrior is the same with a brown paint job. Most real fighters would never field such a cartoon pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like it has a nickel or stainless steel finish. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can almost swear that it had a TRP style magazine well...you could only really see it when Royce grabbed the grip that one time during the entire movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It did have a magwell like that. Just saw it. But you can get those after market to so dosent mean its a TRP 1911. The grips are Kimber tan ones. They just get dirty so kind look like ACU. Shame he never used it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kimber are not the only ones that uses or has access to G10 grips...there are other 1911 makers that use that styling of grips.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mombasa uses what looks like a standered GI 1911 when he has Stans's shank to his throat.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 23:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nicholai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) uses a handgun of unknown make or model, after his minigun is destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It looked like a Makarov to me. This naturally would fit his character.&lt;br /&gt;
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Im fairly certain it was a tokarev&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mk 2 hand grenade==&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[Mk 2 hand grenade]] is seen among the weapons in Noland's ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) arsenal. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mk 2 hand grenade|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A barrel with assorted weapons on it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Noland's weapons cache==&lt;br /&gt;
When the group are taken to Noland's cave, they see he's collected a mixture of weapons, some human and some alien. Of the human weapons there are [[CAR-15]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 29|S&amp;amp;W M29 .44 Magnum]] and an unknown shotgun.  There is also an M79 grenade launcher, though it is only used to fire a flare.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Predators06a.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Noland ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) shows up with a alien rifle]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A barrel with assorted weapons on it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Special Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sneak Peak at the new Predators===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators18a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Nikolai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) gets a face to face meeting with one of the new Super Predators, note Nikolai's hands aren't empty.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators17a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A sneak peak of the Flusher Predator, and the Predator Hound on the Predator &amp;quot;Game&amp;quot; preserve planet.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Predator]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=300189</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=300189"/>
		<updated>2010-07-13T23:59:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Weapon in NGE comics? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What I refer to as the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; is the full-length part of the slide underneath the barrel. This is to accomadate the recoil spring. In a locked-breech firearm like the CZ, this is (by tradition, if nothing else) underneath the barrel, hence the &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; In a blowback firearm like the PPK, the recoil spring is *around* the barrel, hence no &amp;quot;underlug.&amp;quot; As for the SIG, the SIG P210 is a very different weapon from the later SIGS, and the only one to have internal slide rails (The P220 series and later models like the P229 have external slide rails, and hence, a slide that is wider than the frame). EDIT Oh yeah, and the P220/P229 has a full-length guide rod, so there'd be another round thing underneath the barrel if it was one.  [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is a much better copy. The &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; is either the slide release or the safety (EDIT: It's the slide release; the &amp;quot;thumb&amp;quot; part's in the rear). And just looking at the gun (see my photo above) I can say with no doubt that is a CZ-75B (EDIT: slide thinner than the frame; check. flattened top; check. CZ-style front and rear sights; check. The front part of the trigger guard (the serrations) is also consistent with the CZ-75B) . [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Many of us who own CZ'a as opposed to Glocks consider them to be better weapons ;). Seriously, there's no reason, just like there's no reason for Misato to own a USP instead of a Glock. Many manga and anime include a wide variety of esoteric weaponry for no other reason than to show off. That being said, CZ's are very common pistols outside of the United States (kind of like the Browning Hi-Power), whereas in the US it's mostly 1911 derivatives and Glocks. [[Special:Contributions/72.214.101.161|72.214.101.161]] 02:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of Glocks do they use? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had thought it was Glock 17's, but I'm not sure about the fine distinctions between the several Glock variants.  Remember, the movie was made in 1997 so it could only be Glock models that existed up to that year. --[[User:V|V]] 23:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=299328</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=299328"/>
		<updated>2010-07-11T23:53:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* What variant of HK USP does Misato use? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm therefore unwilling to say with finality exactly which variant it was supposed to be.  I guess we'll just leave it as it is.  --[[User:V|V]] 23:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=299327</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=299327"/>
		<updated>2010-07-11T23:52:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? */ how does a CZ-75 compare against a Glock 17?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK or CZ-75? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17 vs CZ-75 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a design question but a performance question:  what is the functional difference between a CZ-75 and a Glock 17?  What's special about the CZ-75, which would make Gendo prefer to use it instead of the standard-issue Glock 17? Ritsuko's revolver is different, but that made a lot of sense:  she's not supposed to have a gun, so she would want to use one that is specifically meant to be concealable.  Misato uses an HK USP, which is a bigger gun than a simple Glock 17 (and no one thinks its weird, because unlike Ritsuko the scientist, Misato is head of the tactical division and thus *supposed* to have a gun).  So what's great about the CZ-75?--[[User:V|V]] 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=299318</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=299318"/>
		<updated>2010-07-11T23:24:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, the problem is that the original picture I loaded (in haste) is from the crappy English-dub release of the movie, made by Manga Entertainment (infamously one of the worst DVD transfers ever made, and for such a high-profile project).  Going back to the pristine Japanese original version, I've now got a high-quality picture of the same scene loaded up, without all the shadow problems.  Now you can clearly see that there is some sort of switch on the side of the gun, near the handle.  This may be a vital clue.&lt;br /&gt;
Is this switch something that the CZ-75 has?  Is this a key distinction between a CZ-75 and a SIG P200 series? (Would a SIG have a switch like that?).  And to recap:  the &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; part of a PPK is sloped and would never look that blocky?--[[User:V|V]] 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=299315</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=299315"/>
		<updated>2010-07-11T23:20:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* CZ-75 */ better picture of the gun&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there are only one spare clip. It seems that someone thinks stocking up ani-personnel weaponary is a wast of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. Misato fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers.  All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more than 10 rounds per magazine, so its difficult to tell which kind she uses.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===R-92 revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===CZ-75===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a [[CZ-75]] variant (the top of the slide is from a CZ-75B, but the pistol doesn't seem to be full size).  There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GendoHandgunEvangelion.jpg|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|HKP5-A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard main weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015.&lt;br /&gt;
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A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses a [[Panzerfaust 3]] while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Evangelion&amp;diff=299313</id>
		<title>Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Evangelion&amp;diff=299313"/>
		<updated>2010-07-11T23:18:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: Redirecting to Neon Genesis Evangelion&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=299305</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-11T22:09:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I looked. Sadly, I don't own a PPK. You're pretty much right on the underlug/lack of underlug though. CZ's and derivatives are relatively rare in that the underlug doesn't possess a full-length guide rod or recoil spring plug. (EDIT: Another thing; in the pic on the main page, the slide is clearly less wide than the frame. That points to internal slide rails, which points to the CZ (or SIG P210, and that's no SIG). [[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I have seen several people say they thought it was a SIG Sauer P229.  What makes you say its not a SIG?  And please use layman's terms, for I am a layman (what does &amp;quot;underlug&amp;quot; mean?).  Our problems stem from that we only ever see Gendo pointing the gun directly at the camera, and most gun displays show them from the side.  And its not a PPK because those have sloped underlugs?--[[User:V|V]] 22:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right, time to clarify what I meant, since I probably dropped the ball quite badly. There are nine visible holes on the side of the magazine, which show how many rounds are left in it. &amp;quot;Double Stack&amp;quot; is actually me mangling the terminology a bit (the proper term is &amp;quot;staggered column&amp;quot;) means that there's two columns of bullets in the magazine, typically staggered so it feeds one at a time. Further more, we only see one side of the magazine, so it should only be dealing with the rounds in the left column. 9 rounds each side x2 = 18. It's also more likely to be a 9mm or a .40 S&amp;amp;W since the .45 was still relatively new at the time the series was made (Introduced May 1995, first episode aired October 10th, 1995). Of course, this is all conjecture, nothing canon pegs the calibre. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296587</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296587"/>
		<updated>2010-07-05T19:22:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me get thsi straight:  a CZ-75 has that bulky part underneath the barrel, while a PPK slopes directly back underneath the barrel, and has a wider ring around the front?  We could use a better comparison pick with a real life PPK held at the same angle.  --[[User:V|V]] 19:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296585</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-05T18:57:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there are only one spare clip. It seems that someone thinks stocking up ani-personnel weaponary is a wast of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. Misato fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers.  All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more than 10 rounds per magazine, so its difficult to tell which kind she uses.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===R-92 revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===CZ-75===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a [[CZ-75]] variant (the top of the slide is from a CZ-75B, but the pistol doesn't seem to be full size).  There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|HKP5-A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard main weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A major feature of the HK G11 is that it fires caseless ammunition.  Notice that when JSSDF soldiers fire their HK G11's in the movie, they never expel spent shell casings.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses a [[Panzerfaust 3]] while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296583</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296583"/>
		<updated>2010-07-05T18:56:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11 */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there are only one spare clip. It seems that someone thinks stocking up ani-personnel weaponary is a wast of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. Misato fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers.  All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more than 10 rounds per magazine, so its difficult to tell which kind she uses.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===R-92 revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===CZ-75===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a [[CZ-75]] variant (the top of the slide is from a CZ-75B, but the pistol doesn't seem to be full size).  There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|HKP5-A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard main weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered &amp;quot;futuristic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.  It was an advanced prototype in the 1990's, so at the time it was a reasonable prediction that weapons design might lean this way by 2015.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses a [[Panzerfaust 3]] while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296581</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296581"/>
		<updated>2010-07-05T18:52:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* No Spoilers rule being violated here */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;.  (sigh)...well, your house, your rules...--[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296580</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-05T18:51:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;. --[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What variant of HK USP does Misato use?==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The loading shot shows an 18-round magazine (nine visible holes, double stack), suggesting it's a 9mm model. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The problem is that Misato fires 10 rounds, and all three main USP variants have a bigger capacity than that.  Normally it says right on the side what version it is, but they didn't bother animating that.  I..doubt its a .45 ACP because those are apparently slightly bigger.  I can see nine holes, yes...what does &amp;quot;double stack&amp;quot; mean?  Why does that suggest 9mm?  I mean, we don't see her inserting the entire magazine into the gun start to finish, the camera cuts in after she's already inserted the top part into the gun.  A .45 has 12 rounds, a .40 has 16 rounds.  I'm saying it might be a .40 and the top half of the magazine is just obscured because the top half is already inside of it.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
does anyone own one or all of the USP variants, so you can take a picture of the magazine?  A key point of contention/piece of evidence is what the magazine looks like from behind, but most online pictures just show already-loaded guns.  --[[User:V|V]] 18:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296577</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-05T18:46:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Glock 17===&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the [[Glock 17]]. Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk. Note that there are only one spare clip. It seems that someone thinks stocking up ani-personnel weaponary is a wast of funds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Browning Hi-Power===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP===&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|HK USP]].  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series. Note that Misato's USP has a rubber grip on the handle. Misato fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers.  All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more than 10 rounds per magazine, so its difficult to tell which kind she uses.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===R-92 revolver=== &lt;br /&gt;
During ''End of Evangelion'', Ritsuko uses a R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===CZ-75===&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation. It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a [[CZ-75]] variant (the top of the slide is from a CZ-75B, but the pistol doesn't seem to be full size).  There is no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sub-Machine Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3===&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|HKP5-A3]] variant.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Steyr MPi 69===&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] as their standard main weapon. While normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's and normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11===&lt;br /&gt;
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The advanced [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11|HK G11]] is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  While the G11 program never really caught on and is now considered defunct, it would have been considered a &amp;quot;furistic&amp;quot; in 1997 when ''End of Evangelion'' was made.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Flame Thrower===&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Hit 'em again!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Panzerfaust 3===&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses a [[Panzerfaust 3]] while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296576</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296576"/>
		<updated>2010-07-05T18:44:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
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:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Fair enough that there is a spoilers rule in place, but people come for &amp;quot;information&amp;quot; -- there's no such thing as &amp;quot;a wall of text&amp;quot;. --[[User:V|V]] 18:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296575</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296575"/>
		<updated>2010-07-05T18:43:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Weapon in NGE comics? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Page Cleanup==&lt;br /&gt;
I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Probably not...but what weapons were in the manga that weren't in the anime?--[[User:V|V]] 18:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296574</id>
		<title>Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=296574"/>
		<updated>2010-07-05T18:42:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* No Spoilers rule being violated here */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== NO EVA GUNS! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm sorry, but however those weapons look like to us, they are huge scale versions of real guns. Same with Halo, Team America, none of that here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...then unprotect this page, delete the images I uploaded, and let me get back to work on the real gun sections here...--[[User:V|V]] 03:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No mention of the '''Steyr ACR''' used by the EVAs?  Okay, those were giant robot up-sized ACRs, so they probably don't count.  What kinda of ammo did they fire anyways?  Given the size of the EVAs it must have been something like 75mm!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The Pallet rifles aren't up scaled ACRs, the stock's the wrong shape. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 13:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::If you up scaled a gun to that degree some change would be nesesary for the operating system, thus resulting in a slightly different buttstock.  They were obviously meant to be ACRs.&lt;br /&gt;
EVAs also used '''Desert Eagle''' pistols and the British '''L96A1''' sniper rifle.--[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 22:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;amp;oldid=138772 initial version] of this article I wrote up included the scaled-up versions of real-life guns the Evangelions use, but the admins forbade it.  Apparently policy is that they're still not &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; guns, and shouldn't be here.  Check out what I wrote up originally.--[[User:V|V]] 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did and it should be deleted. We don't need 2 EVA pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Just a call back to an earlier comment, pages are protected so that you HAVE to register on the site so we know who you are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that Eva guns should be on the page. Despite the fact they are 'make believe' they are still based on real firearms. If you go look in the ghost in the shell page or pretty much any other anime page you find guns that don't exist. Why should they Eva guns not be put up? Because of their size?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, solely because of their size. And because I said so. :P [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:23, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== RPG changed to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Panzerfaust] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although it may look like an RPG, it is most defiantly the Panzerfaust. At first this was speculation on my part, but its a fact that JSDF uses this for real.--Tested&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What makes you say its a Panzerfaust 3? I mean the one shot we have of them using it is at a bad angle and you can only see it from the back; what distinguishing features confirm its a Panzerfaust 3?--[[User:V|V]] 21:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==No Spoilers rule being violated here==&lt;br /&gt;
Guys, removed the excessive explanation of the plot.  It violates IMFDB's no Spoilers rule.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:...how can you *possibly* have a no-spoilers rule at all?  Its about the guns, of course its going to be spoilers.--[[User:V|V]] 18:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Gendo's gun a Walther PPK? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've heard it identified as a CZ-75 before, and it certainly doesn't look like a PPK in the pic (PP/PPK pistols have their recoil spring around the barrel, not underneath, and therefore don't need an underlug).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It's too small to be a CZ 75 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Could be a compact or even a RAMI subcompact. It looks more like a CZ from the front than anything else. Anyone got a side pic?&lt;br /&gt;
:: Here's a pic of my 75B from the same angle for comparison [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7533/img0057pq.jpg link title]&lt;br /&gt;
:: And here's a PPK pic; angle's not exact, but should be close enough [http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gunporn-ppk.jpg link title].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, account created, edit made.[[User:Notamisfit|Notamisfit]] 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Page Cleanup==&lt;br /&gt;
I went in and reorganized the page, and removed some of the spoilerific passages and walls of text. Hopefully that will make it a little easier to read.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Weapon in NGE comics? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are several weapons that only appears in the manga version of NGE but not the anime. OK to put those up? I don't thike we need a second page.- Teslashark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing from the manga, please. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=243282</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=243282"/>
		<updated>2010-03-10T16:11:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the Steyr MPi 69 as their standard main weapon.  As Aoba states, Nerv HQ's entire defense plan was designed around fighting giant &amp;quot;Angel&amp;quot; monsters, not invading armies.  They have trouble even dealing with terrorist threats.  When the JSSDF invades at battalion-strength with commandos armed with RPG's, Flamethrowers, and HK G11's (not to mention supporting artillery battalions and attack helicopters), these Steyr MPi 69's are the best that Nerv personnel can respond with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's, while normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's.  However, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.  When the JSSDF penetrates the command center room itself, most of the technicians there can only return fire with Glock 17's.  Having no combat experience, Lt. Maya Ibuki is to afraid to even fire a Glock 17 Aoba hands her and cowers in fear under her desk.  Aoba, however, fitting the nihilistic attitude he displays throughout the series, whips out a Steyr MPi 69 and starts casually blowing away advancing JSSDF troops, utterly remorseless at the act of killing another human being.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops firing HK G11's (top)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Glock 17]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the Glock 17.  Even Nerv's sidearms are inferior to the JSSDF counterpart, the Browning Hi-Power.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced HK G11 is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Browning Hi-Power]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Browning Hi-Power is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the HK USP.  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series, such as when she points it at Kaji's head when she catches him breaking into Terminal Dogma, then later when she forces Ritsuko at gunpoint to show her all of &amp;quot;Nerv's secrets&amp;quot; in Terminal Dogma, culminating in revealing the vat full of Rei-clones.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Take special notice that the variant of the HK USP that Misato uses has a rubber grip on the handle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In ''End of Evangelion'', the camera lingers on Misato loading her HK USP when the JSSDF starts invading Nerv HQ.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Misato uses her HK USP to kill the three JSSDF soldiers who are about to kill Shinji.  Misato is able to do this because she takes them by surprise.  Her first shot takes out the JSSDF soldier who was about to kill Shinji with a Browning Hi Power pistol (right after he holds the pistol to Shinji's head and sarcastically says &amp;quot;Sorry kid, no offense taken!&amp;quot;).  The other two JSSDF soldiers are armed with HK G11's, but it takes time for them to turn and level their rifles at Misato and she already has her HK USP drawn, firing while charging them.  She shoots one soldier, then manages to knock the last one's HK G11 out of the way with a jumping kick.  She then holds her HK USP directly against his chin, coldly says &amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;, then blows his brains out with a contact shot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP9.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Misato fires 10 rounds in succession when fighting the JSSDF soldiers.  All three of the main H&amp;amp;K USP variants carry more rounds-per-clip than this, so its difficult to tell which kind she uses.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3]]  ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the MP5 A3 variant (close inspection will reveal that it has a forward mounted ammunition magazine, it's just obscured by shadow; the Steyr MPi 69's magazine would feed into the handle).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== R-92 revolver == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The odd-looking revolver that Ritsuko pulls on Gendo during their final confrontation in ''End of Evangelion'' is the R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Walther PPK]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation, when she lets her guard down due to the base's self-destruct not activating as planned.  It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a Walther PPK.  Again, there's no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  Gendo says to Ritsuko &amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot; but then his line is muted out (originally a background explosion was going to be in, so the audience can't hear what he's saying but Ritsuko can, but then the creators thought it would be more &amp;quot;artsy&amp;quot; just to mute the line without an explosion).  We never find out what Gendo's infamous final line is, but it was something that &amp;quot;made Ritsuko feel so defeated that she doesn't even try to dodge Gendo's bullet&amp;quot; and welcomes death.  Ritsuko responds &amp;quot;Liar&amp;quot;, then Gendo shoots her once with his Walther PPK (''insert James Bond joke: &amp;quot;I only need one shot&amp;quot;''), the force of which knocks Ritsuko completely off of her feet and flying backwards into the pool of LCL behind her (it's not clear how realistic this is, but keep in mind that Ritsuko wasn't bracing for the shot at all).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosentflying.png|thumb|none|300px|Ritsuko sent flying backwards from the force of Gendo's shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic version Gendo has a revolver that resembles[[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19]] mounted with a laser pointer on the side. He is supposed to have killed Kaji with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Flame Thrower ==&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Panzerfaust 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses an Panzerfaust 3 while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242957</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242957"/>
		<updated>2010-03-10T02:38:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the Steyr MPi 69 as their standard main weapon.  As Aoba states, Nerv HQ's entire defense plan was designed around fighting giant &amp;quot;Angel&amp;quot; monsters, not invading armies.  They have trouble even dealing with terrorist threats.  When the JSSDF invades at battalion-strength with commandos armed with RPG's, Flamethrowers, and HK G11's (not to mention supporting artillery battalions and attack helicopters), these Steyr MPi 69's are the best that Nerv personnel can respond with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's, while normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's.  However, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.  When the JSSDF penetrates the command center room itself, most of the technicians there can only return fire with Glock 17's.  Having no combat experience, Lt. Maya Ibuki is to afraid to even fire a Glock 17 Aoba hands her and cowers in fear under her desk.  Aoba, however, fitting the nihilistic attitude he displays throughout the series, whips out a Steyr MPi 69 and starts casually blowing away advancing JSSDF troops, utterly remorseless at the act of killing another human being.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops firing HK G11's (top)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Glock 17]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the Glock 17.  Even Nerv's sidearms are inferior to the JSSDF counterpart, the Browning Hi-Power.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced HK G11 is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Browning Hi-Power]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Browning Hi-Power is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the HK USP.  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series, such as when she points it at Kaji's head when she catches him breaking into Terminal Dogma, then later when she forces Ritsuko at gunpoint to show her all of &amp;quot;Nerv's secrets&amp;quot; in Terminal Dogma, culminating in revealing the vat full of Rei-clones.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Take special notice that the variant of the HK USP that Misato uses has a rubber grip on the handle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In ''End of Evangelion'', the camera lingers on Misato loading her HK USP when the JSSDF starts invading Nerv HQ.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Misato uses her HK USP to kill the three JSSDF soldiers who are about to kill Shinji.  Misato is able to do this because she takes them by surprise.  Her first shot takes out the JSSDF soldier who was about to kill Shinji with a Browning Hi Power pistol (right after he holds the pistol to Shinji's head and sarcastically says &amp;quot;Sorry kid, no offense taken!&amp;quot;).  The other two JSSDF soldiers are armed with HK G11's, but it takes time for them to turn and level their rifles at Misato and she already has her HK USP drawn, firing while charging them.  She shoots one soldier, then manages to knock the last one's HK G11 out of the way with a jumping kick.  She then holds her HK USP directly against his chin, coldly says &amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;, then blows his brains out with a contact shot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP9.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3]]  ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the MP5 A3 variant (close inspection will reveal that it has a forward mounted ammunition magazine, it's just obscured by shadow; the Steyr MPi 69's magazine would feed into the handle).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== R-92 revolver == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The odd-looking revolver that Ritsuko pulls on Gendo during their final confrontation in ''End of Evangelion'' is the R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Walther PPK]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation, when she lets her guard down due to the base's self-destruct not activating as planned.  It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a Walther PPK.  Again, there's no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  Gendo says to Ritsuko &amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot; but then his line is muted out (originally a background explosion was going to be in, so the audience can't hear what he's saying but Ritsuko can, but then the creators thought it would be more &amp;quot;artsy&amp;quot; just to mute the line without an explosion).  We never find out what Gendo's infamous final line is, but it was something that &amp;quot;made Ritsuko feel so defeated that she doesn't even try to dodge Gendo's bullet&amp;quot; and welcomes death.  Ritsuko responds &amp;quot;Liar&amp;quot;, then Gendo shoots her once with his Walther PPK (''insert James Bond joke: &amp;quot;I only need one shot&amp;quot;''), the force of which knocks Ritsuko completely off of her feet and flying backwards into the pool of LCL behind her (it's not clear how realistic this is, but keep in mind that Ritsuko wasn't bracing for the shot at all).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosentflying.png|thumb|none|300px|Ritsuko sent flying backwards from the force of Gendo's shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic version Gendo has a revolver that resembles[[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19]] mounted with a laser pointer on the side. He is supposed to have killed Kaji with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Flame Thrower ==&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Panzerfaust 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses an Panzerfaust 3 while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242955</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242955"/>
		<updated>2010-03-10T02:38:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the Steyr MPi 69 as their standard main weapon.  As Aoba states, Nerv HQ's entire defense plan was designed around fighting giant &amp;quot;Angel&amp;quot; monsters, not invading armies.  They have trouble even dealing with terrorist threats.  When the JSSDF invades at battalion-strength with commandos armed with RPG's, Flamethrowers, and HK G11's (not to mention supporting artillery battalions and attack helicopters), these Steyr MPi 69's are the best that Nerv personnel can respond with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's, while normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's.  However, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.  When the JSSDF penetrates the command center room itself, most of the technicians there can only return fire with Glock 17's.  Having no combat experience, Lt. Maya Ibuki is to afraid to even fire a Glock 17 Aoba hands her and cowers in fear under her desk.  Aoba, however, fitting the nihilistic attitude he displays throughout the series, whips out a Steyr MPi 69 and starts casually blowing away advancing JSSDF troops, utterly remorseless at the act of killing another human being.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops firing HK G11's (top)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Glock 17]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the Glock 17.  Even Nerv's sidearms are inferior to the JSSDF counterpart, the Browning Hi-Power.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced HK G11 is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Browning Hi-Power]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Browning Hi-Power is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the HK USP.  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series, such as when she points it at Kaji's head when she catches him breaking into Terminal Dogma, then later when she forces Ritsuko at gunpoint to show her all of &amp;quot;Nerv's secrets&amp;quot; in Terminal Dogma, culminating in revealing the vat full of Rei-clones.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Take special notice that the variant of the HK USP that Misato uses has a rubber grip on the handle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In ''End of Evangelion'', the camera lingers on Misato loading her HK USP when the JSSDF starts invading Nerv HQ.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Misato uses her HK USP to kill the three JSSDF soldiers who are about to kill Shinji.  Misato is able to do this because she takes them by surprise.  Her first shot takes out the JSSDF soldier who was about to kill Shinji with a Browning Hi Power pistol (right after he holds the pistol to Shinji's head and sarcastically says &amp;quot;Sorry kid, no offense taken!&amp;quot;).  The other two JSSDF soldiers are armed with HK G11's, but it takes time for them to turn and level their rifles at Misato and she already has her HK USP drawn, firing while charging them.  She shoots one soldier, then manages to knock the last one's HK G11 out of the way with a jumping kick.  She then holds her HK USP directly against his chin, coldly says &amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;, then blows his brains out with a contact shot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP9.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3]]  ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the MP5 A3 variant (close inspection will reveal that it has a forward mounted ammunition magazine, it's just obscured by shadow; the Steyr MPi 69 magazine feeds into the handle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== R-92 revolver == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The odd-looking revolver that Ritsuko pulls on Gendo during their final confrontation in ''End of Evangelion'' is the R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Walther PPK]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation, when she lets her guard down due to the base's self-destruct not activating as planned.  It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a Walther PPK.  Again, there's no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  Gendo says to Ritsuko &amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot; but then his line is muted out (originally a background explosion was going to be in, so the audience can't hear what he's saying but Ritsuko can, but then the creators thought it would be more &amp;quot;artsy&amp;quot; just to mute the line without an explosion).  We never find out what Gendo's infamous final line is, but it was something that &amp;quot;made Ritsuko feel so defeated that she doesn't even try to dodge Gendo's bullet&amp;quot; and welcomes death.  Ritsuko responds &amp;quot;Liar&amp;quot;, then Gendo shoots her once with his Walther PPK (''insert James Bond joke: &amp;quot;I only need one shot&amp;quot;''), the force of which knocks Ritsuko completely off of her feet and flying backwards into the pool of LCL behind her (it's not clear how realistic this is, but keep in mind that Ritsuko wasn't bracing for the shot at all).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosentflying.png|thumb|none|300px|Ritsuko sent flying backwards from the force of Gendo's shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic version Gendo has a revolver that resembles[[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19]] mounted with a laser pointer on the side. He is supposed to have killed Kaji with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Flame Thrower ==&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Panzerfaust 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses an Panzerfaust 3 while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242952</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242952"/>
		<updated>2010-03-10T02:34:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3 */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the Steyr MPi 69 as their standard main weapon.  As Aoba states, Nerv HQ's entire defense plan was designed around fighting giant &amp;quot;Angel&amp;quot; monsters, not invading armies.  They have trouble even dealing with terrorist threats.  When the JSSDF invades at battalion-strength with commandos armed with RPG's, Flamethrowers, and HK G11's (not to mention supporting artillery battalions and attack helicopters), these Steyr MPi 69's are the best that Nerv personnel can respond with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's, while normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's.  However, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.  When the JSSDF penetrates the command center room itself, most of the technicians there can only return fire with Glock 17's.  Having no combat experience, Lt. Maya Ibuki is to afraid to even fire a Glock 17 Aoba hands her and cowers in fear under her desk.  Aoba, however, fitting the nihilistic attitude he displays throughout the series, whips out a Steyr MPi 69 and starts casually blowing away advancing JSSDF troops, utterly remorseless at the act of killing another human being.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops firing HK G11's (top)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Glock 17]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the Glock 17.  Even Nerv's sidearms are inferior to the JSSDF counterpart, the Browning Hi-Power.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced HK G11 is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Browning Hi-Power]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Browning Hi-Power is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the HK USP.  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series, such as when she points it at Kaji's head when she catches him breaking into Terminal Dogma, then later when she forces Ritsuko at gunpoint to show her all of &amp;quot;Nerv's secrets&amp;quot; in Terminal Dogma, culminating in revealing the vat full of Rei-clones.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Take special notice that the variant of the HK USP that Misato uses has a rubber grip on the handle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In ''End of Evangelion'', the camera lingers on Misato loading her HK USP when the JSSDF starts invading Nerv HQ.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Misato uses her HK USP to kill the three JSSDF soldiers who are about to kill Shinji.  Misato is able to do this because she takes them by surprise.  Her first shot takes out the JSSDF soldier who was about to kill Shinji with a Browning Hi Power pistol (right after he holds the pistol to Shinji's head and sarcastically says &amp;quot;Sorry kid, no offense taken!&amp;quot;).  The other two JSSDF soldiers are armed with HK G11's, but it takes time for them to turn and level their rifles at Misato and she already has her HK USP drawn, firing while charging them.  She shoots one soldier, then manages to knock the last one's HK G11 out of the way with a jumping kick.  She then holds her HK USP directly against his chin, coldly says &amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;, then blows his brains out with a contact shot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP9.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3]]  ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Only briefly seen in episode 23, the Nerv HazMat team seems to be armed with H&amp;amp;K MP5's, probably the MP5 A3 variant (close inspection will reveal that an&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== R-92 revolver == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The odd-looking revolver that Ritsuko pulls on Gendo during their final confrontation in ''End of Evangelion'' is the R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Walther PPK]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation, when she lets her guard down due to the base's self-destruct not activating as planned.  It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a Walther PPK.  Again, there's no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  Gendo says to Ritsuko &amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot; but then his line is muted out (originally a background explosion was going to be in, so the audience can't hear what he's saying but Ritsuko can, but then the creators thought it would be more &amp;quot;artsy&amp;quot; just to mute the line without an explosion).  We never find out what Gendo's infamous final line is, but it was something that &amp;quot;made Ritsuko feel so defeated that she doesn't even try to dodge Gendo's bullet&amp;quot; and welcomes death.  Ritsuko responds &amp;quot;Liar&amp;quot;, then Gendo shoots her once with his Walther PPK (''insert James Bond joke: &amp;quot;I only need one shot&amp;quot;''), the force of which knocks Ritsuko completely off of her feet and flying backwards into the pool of LCL behind her (it's not clear how realistic this is, but keep in mind that Ritsuko wasn't bracing for the shot at all).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosentflying.png|thumb|none|300px|Ritsuko sent flying backwards from the force of Gendo's shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic version Gendo has a revolver that resembles[[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19]] mounted with a laser pointer on the side. He is supposed to have killed Kaji with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Flame Thrower ==&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Panzerfaust 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses an Panzerfaust 3 while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242950</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242950"/>
		<updated>2010-03-10T02:31:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5 */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the Steyr MPi 69 as their standard main weapon.  As Aoba states, Nerv HQ's entire defense plan was designed around fighting giant &amp;quot;Angel&amp;quot; monsters, not invading armies.  They have trouble even dealing with terrorist threats.  When the JSSDF invades at battalion-strength with commandos armed with RPG's, Flamethrowers, and HK G11's (not to mention supporting artillery battalions and attack helicopters), these Steyr MPi 69's are the best that Nerv personnel can respond with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's, while normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's.  However, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.  When the JSSDF penetrates the command center room itself, most of the technicians there can only return fire with Glock 17's.  Having no combat experience, Lt. Maya Ibuki is to afraid to even fire a Glock 17 Aoba hands her and cowers in fear under her desk.  Aoba, however, fitting the nihilistic attitude he displays throughout the series, whips out a Steyr MPi 69 and starts casually blowing away advancing JSSDF troops, utterly remorseless at the act of killing another human being.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops firing HK G11's (top)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Glock 17]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the Glock 17.  Even Nerv's sidearms are inferior to the JSSDF counterpart, the Browning Hi-Power.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced HK G11 is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Browning Hi-Power]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Browning Hi-Power is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the HK USP.  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series, such as when she points it at Kaji's head when she catches him breaking into Terminal Dogma, then later when she forces Ritsuko at gunpoint to show her all of &amp;quot;Nerv's secrets&amp;quot; in Terminal Dogma, culminating in revealing the vat full of Rei-clones.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Take special notice that the variant of the HK USP that Misato uses has a rubber grip on the handle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In ''End of Evangelion'', the camera lingers on Misato loading her HK USP when the JSSDF starts invading Nerv HQ.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Misato uses her HK USP to kill the three JSSDF soldiers who are about to kill Shinji.  Misato is able to do this because she takes them by surprise.  Her first shot takes out the JSSDF soldier who was about to kill Shinji with a Browning Hi Power pistol (right after he holds the pistol to Shinji's head and sarcastically says &amp;quot;Sorry kid, no offense taken!&amp;quot;).  The other two JSSDF soldiers are armed with HK G11's, but it takes time for them to turn and level their rifles at Misato and she already has her HK USP drawn, firing while charging them.  She shoots one soldier, then manages to knock the last one's HK G11 out of the way with a jumping kick.  She then holds her HK USP directly against his chin, coldly says &amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;, then blows his brains out with a contact shot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP9.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3]]  ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23:  his gun appears to also be a Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== R-92 revolver == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The odd-looking revolver that Ritsuko pulls on Gendo during their final confrontation in ''End of Evangelion'' is the R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Walther PPK]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation, when she lets her guard down due to the base's self-destruct not activating as planned.  It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a Walther PPK.  Again, there's no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  Gendo says to Ritsuko &amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot; but then his line is muted out (originally a background explosion was going to be in, so the audience can't hear what he's saying but Ritsuko can, but then the creators thought it would be more &amp;quot;artsy&amp;quot; just to mute the line without an explosion).  We never find out what Gendo's infamous final line is, but it was something that &amp;quot;made Ritsuko feel so defeated that she doesn't even try to dodge Gendo's bullet&amp;quot; and welcomes death.  Ritsuko responds &amp;quot;Liar&amp;quot;, then Gendo shoots her once with his Walther PPK (''insert James Bond joke: &amp;quot;I only need one shot&amp;quot;''), the force of which knocks Ritsuko completely off of her feet and flying backwards into the pool of LCL behind her (it's not clear how realistic this is, but keep in mind that Ritsuko wasn't bracing for the shot at all).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosentflying.png|thumb|none|300px|Ritsuko sent flying backwards from the force of Gendo's shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic version Gendo has a revolver that resembles[[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19]] mounted with a laser pointer on the side. He is supposed to have killed Kaji with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Flame Thrower ==&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Panzerfaust 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses an Panzerfaust 3 while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242949</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242949"/>
		<updated>2010-03-10T02:30:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the Steyr MPi 69 as their standard main weapon.  As Aoba states, Nerv HQ's entire defense plan was designed around fighting giant &amp;quot;Angel&amp;quot; monsters, not invading armies.  They have trouble even dealing with terrorist threats.  When the JSSDF invades at battalion-strength with commandos armed with RPG's, Flamethrowers, and HK G11's (not to mention supporting artillery battalions and attack helicopters), these Steyr MPi 69's are the best that Nerv personnel can respond with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's, while normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's.  However, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.  When the JSSDF penetrates the command center room itself, most of the technicians there can only return fire with Glock 17's.  Having no combat experience, Lt. Maya Ibuki is to afraid to even fire a Glock 17 Aoba hands her and cowers in fear under her desk.  Aoba, however, fitting the nihilistic attitude he displays throughout the series, whips out a Steyr MPi 69 and starts casually blowing away advancing JSSDF troops, utterly remorseless at the act of killing another human being.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops firing HK G11's (top)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Glock 17]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the Glock 17.  Even Nerv's sidearms are inferior to the JSSDF counterpart, the Browning Hi-Power.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced HK G11 is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Browning Hi-Power]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Browning Hi-Power is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the HK USP.  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series, such as when she points it at Kaji's head when she catches him breaking into Terminal Dogma, then later when she forces Ritsuko at gunpoint to show her all of &amp;quot;Nerv's secrets&amp;quot; in Terminal Dogma, culminating in revealing the vat full of Rei-clones.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Take special notice that the variant of the HK USP that Misato uses has a rubber grip on the handle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In ''End of Evangelion'', the camera lingers on Misato loading her HK USP when the JSSDF starts invading Nerv HQ.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Misato uses her HK USP to kill the three JSSDF soldiers who are about to kill Shinji.  Misato is able to do this because she takes them by surprise.  Her first shot takes out the JSSDF soldier who was about to kill Shinji with a Browning Hi Power pistol (right after he holds the pistol to Shinji's head and sarcastically says &amp;quot;Sorry kid, no offense taken!&amp;quot;).  The other two JSSDF soldiers are armed with HK G11's, but it takes time for them to turn and level their rifles at Misato and she already has her HK USP drawn, firing while charging them.  She shoots one soldier, then manages to knock the last one's HK G11 out of the way with a jumping kick.  She then holds her HK USP directly against his chin, coldly says &amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;, then blows his brains out with a contact shot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP9.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23:  his gun appears to also be a Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== R-92 revolver == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The odd-looking revolver that Ritsuko pulls on Gendo during their final confrontation in ''End of Evangelion'' is the R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Walther PPK]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation, when she lets her guard down due to the base's self-destruct not activating as planned.  It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a Walther PPK.  Again, there's no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  Gendo says to Ritsuko &amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot; but then his line is muted out (originally a background explosion was going to be in, so the audience can't hear what he's saying but Ritsuko can, but then the creators thought it would be more &amp;quot;artsy&amp;quot; just to mute the line without an explosion).  We never find out what Gendo's infamous final line is, but it was something that &amp;quot;made Ritsuko feel so defeated that she doesn't even try to dodge Gendo's bullet&amp;quot; and welcomes death.  Ritsuko responds &amp;quot;Liar&amp;quot;, then Gendo shoots her once with his Walther PPK (''insert James Bond joke: &amp;quot;I only need one shot&amp;quot;''), the force of which knocks Ritsuko completely off of her feet and flying backwards into the pool of LCL behind her (it's not clear how realistic this is, but keep in mind that Ritsuko wasn't bracing for the shot at all).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosentflying.png|thumb|none|300px|Ritsuko sent flying backwards from the force of Gendo's shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic version Gendo has a revolver that resembles[[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19]] mounted with a laser pointer on the side. He is supposed to have killed Kaji with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Flame Thrower ==&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Panzerfaust 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses an Panzerfaust 3 while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242947</id>
		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion&amp;diff=242947"/>
		<updated>2010-03-10T02:29:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5 */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nerv's security guards use the Steyr MPi 69 as their standard main weapon.  As Aoba states, Nerv HQ's entire defense plan was designed around fighting giant &amp;quot;Angel&amp;quot; monsters, not invading armies.  They have trouble even dealing with terrorist threats.  When the JSSDF invades at battalion-strength with commandos armed with RPG's, Flamethrowers, and HK G11's (not to mention supporting artillery battalions and attack helicopters), these Steyr MPi 69's are the best that Nerv personnel can respond with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's, while normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's.  However, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.  When the JSSDF penetrates the command center room itself, most of the technicians there can only return fire with Glock 17's.  Having no combat experience, Lt. Maya Ibuki is to afraid to even fire a Glock 17 Aoba hands her and cowers in fear under her desk.  Aoba, however, fitting the nihilistic attitude he displays throughout the series, whips out a Steyr MPi 69 and starts casually blowing away advancing JSSDF troops, utterly remorseless at the act of killing another human being.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops firing HK G11's (top)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evagunhazmat.png|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard in full HazMat gear, with the team that recovered the wreckage of Eva-00's Entry Plug in episode 23:  his gun appears to also be a Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Glock 17]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the Glock 17.  Even Nerv's sidearms are inferior to the JSSDF counterpart, the Browning Hi-Power.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advanced HK G11 is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Browning Hi-Power]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Browning Hi-Power is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the HK USP.  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series, such as when she points it at Kaji's head when she catches him breaking into Terminal Dogma, then later when she forces Ritsuko at gunpoint to show her all of &amp;quot;Nerv's secrets&amp;quot; in Terminal Dogma, culminating in revealing the vat full of Rei-clones.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Take special notice that the variant of the HK USP that Misato uses has a rubber grip on the handle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In ''End of Evangelion'', the camera lingers on Misato loading her HK USP when the JSSDF starts invading Nerv HQ.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Misato uses her HK USP to kill the three JSSDF soldiers who are about to kill Shinji.  Misato is able to do this because she takes them by surprise.  Her first shot takes out the JSSDF soldier who was about to kill Shinji with a Browning Hi Power pistol (right after he holds the pistol to Shinji's head and sarcastically says &amp;quot;Sorry kid, no offense taken!&amp;quot;).  The other two JSSDF soldiers are armed with HK G11's, but it takes time for them to turn and level their rifles at Misato and she already has her HK USP drawn, firing while charging them.  She shoots one soldier, then manages to knock the last one's HK G11 out of the way with a jumping kick.  She then holds her HK USP directly against his chin, coldly says &amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;, then blows his brains out with a contact shot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP9.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== R-92 revolver == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The odd-looking revolver that Ritsuko pulls on Gendo during their final confrontation in ''End of Evangelion'' is the R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Walther PPK]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation, when she lets her guard down due to the base's self-destruct not activating as planned.  It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a Walther PPK.  Again, there's no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  Gendo says to Ritsuko &amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot; but then his line is muted out (originally a background explosion was going to be in, so the audience can't hear what he's saying but Ritsuko can, but then the creators thought it would be more &amp;quot;artsy&amp;quot; just to mute the line without an explosion).  We never find out what Gendo's infamous final line is, but it was something that &amp;quot;made Ritsuko feel so defeated that she doesn't even try to dodge Gendo's bullet&amp;quot; and welcomes death.  Ritsuko responds &amp;quot;Liar&amp;quot;, then Gendo shoots her once with his Walther PPK (''insert James Bond joke: &amp;quot;I only need one shot&amp;quot;''), the force of which knocks Ritsuko completely off of her feet and flying backwards into the pool of LCL behind her (it's not clear how realistic this is, but keep in mind that Ritsuko wasn't bracing for the shot at all).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosentflying.png|thumb|none|300px|Ritsuko sent flying backwards from the force of Gendo's shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic version Gendo has a revolver that resembles[[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19]] mounted with a laser pointer on the side. He is supposed to have killed Kaji with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Flame Thrower ==&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Panzerfaust 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses an Panzerfaust 3 while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Neon Genesis Evangelion</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;V: /* Steyr MPi 69 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were shown in the anime franchise ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_genesis_evangelion Neon Genesis Evangelion]''''', including the original 26 episode series, the finale movie ''End of Evangelion'' and the remake ''Rebuild of Evangelion'' tetralogy of films.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TEoEVA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi 69]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nerv's security guards use the Steyr MPi 69 as their standard main weapon.  As Aoba states, Nerv HQ's entire defense plan was designed around fighting giant &amp;quot;Angel&amp;quot; monsters, not invading armies.  They have trouble even dealing with terrorist threats.  When the JSSDF invades at battalion-strength with commandos armed with RPG's, Flamethrowers, and HK G11's (not to mention supporting artillery battalions and attack helicopters), these Steyr MPi 69's are the best that Nerv personnel can respond with.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Nervguards2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nerv security guards armed with Steyr MPi 69's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nervguards1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Nerv security guard with a Steyr MPi 69, ambushed by a JSSDF soldier armed with a knife]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Normally only Nerv security guards are armed with Steyr MPi 69's, while normal technicians and computer operators are only armed with Glock 17's.  However, command center computer operator Lt. Aoba either manages to get his hands on one or keeps one stored in his desk.  When the JSSDF penetrates the command center room itself, most of the technicians there can only return fire with Glock 17's.  Having no combat experience, Lt. Maya Ibuki is to afraid to even fire a Glock 17 Aoba hands her and cowers in fear under her desk.  Aoba, however, fitting the nihilistic attitude he displays throughout the series, whips out a Steyr MPi 69 and starts casually blowing away advancing JSSDF troops, utterly remorseless at the act of killing another human being.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Aoba1.png|thumb|none|300px|Aoba loads his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Maya cannot bring herself to shoot the Glock 17 Aoba has handed her at other human beings.  Aoba's famous response:  &amp;quot;Idiot! You kill or you die!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Evawarzone.png|thumb|none|300px|Nerv's control room turns into a warzone, as Aoba fires a Steyr MPi 69 (bottom left) and Hyuga fires a Glock 17 (bottom right) at invading JSSDF troops firing HK G11's (top)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba takes shelter behind his desk to dodge incoming fire, while holding his Steyr MPi 69]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aoba4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Aoba holds his Steyr MPi 69, as the technicians monitor Asuka in Eva-02]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Glock 17]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The standard issue sidearm for all Nerv personnel is the Glock 17.  Even Nerv's sidearms are inferior to the JSSDF counterpart, the Browning Hi-Power.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hyugaglock.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot;; Hyuga checks his Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
Hyuga loads a Glock 17 from his desk when the JSSDF starts to invade Nerv HQ, but like most Nerv personnel, he has no weapons experience beyond basic training, so he nervously checks it by saying &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; aloud to himself. Since the Glock 17 ''has no external safety'', it's curious as to how he accomplished this. The answer may be that it is one of the ''End of Evangelion'' English dub translation's notorious script problems: the original Japanese version apparently doesn't have Hyuga say an equivalent line to this (unless there's an outside chance he mutters it under his breath) and it ''appears'' that the English dub just added in &amp;quot;safety off&amp;quot; to match his lip-flaps when he was talking.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hyugagun2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Hyuga keeps his Glock 17 in his desk]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G11]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The advanced HK G11 is the standard weapon of the elite JSSDF commandos who invade Nerv HQ in ''End of Evangelion''.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jssdfhk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers with HK G11's invading Nerv HQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldierh&amp;amp;kg11.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers shooting at Misato with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk2.png|thumb|none|300px|Shooting up a control panel with an HK G11]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jssdfhk3.png|thumb|none|300px|JSSDF soldiers battling through the corridors of Nerv HQ with HK G11's]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Browning Hi-Power]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Browning Hi-Power is the standard-issue sidearm used by JSSDF commandos.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Seelesoldierbrowninghi-power.png|thumb|none|300px|A JSSDF soldier puts a Browning Hi-Power to Shinji's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JSSDFbrowning.png|thumb|300px|none|JSSDF commandos invading Nerv HQ, wielding HK G11's (left) and a Browning Hi-Power (right)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Major Misato Katsuragi's gun is the HK USP.  Unlike most Nerv personnel she does not use the standard issue Glock 17, possibly because she is head of the Tactical division.  She brandishes it several times during the series, such as when she points it at Kaji's head when she catches him breaking into Terminal Dogma, then later when she forces Ritsuko at gunpoint to show her all of &amp;quot;Nerv's secrets&amp;quot; in Terminal Dogma, culminating in revealing the vat full of Rei-clones.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Take special notice that the variant of the HK USP that Misato uses has a rubber grip on the handle.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MisatosHKUSP1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In ''End of Evangelion'', the camera lingers on Misato loading her HK USP when the JSSDF starts invading Nerv HQ.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MisatosHKUSP6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Misatoh&amp;amp;kusp.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Misato uses her HK USP to kill the three JSSDF soldiers who are about to kill Shinji.  Misato is able to do this because she takes them by surprise.  Her first shot takes out the JSSDF soldier who was about to kill Shinji with a Browning Hi Power pistol (right after he holds the pistol to Shinji's head and sarcastically says &amp;quot;Sorry kid, no offense taken!&amp;quot;).  The other two JSSDF soldiers are armed with HK G11's, but it takes time for them to turn and level their rifles at Misato and she already has her HK USP drawn, firing while charging them.  She shoots one soldier, then manages to knock the last one's HK G11 out of the way with a jumping kick.  She then holds her HK USP directly against his chin, coldly says &amp;quot;Hey, no offense taken&amp;quot;, then blows his brains out with a contact shot.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MisatosHKUSP9.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MisatosHKUSP8.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== R-92 revolver == &lt;br /&gt;
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The odd-looking revolver that Ritsuko pulls on Gendo during their final confrontation in ''End of Evangelion'' is the R-92, a 9mm revolver produced by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau at Tula. They were developed to produce a conceal-carry, instant readiness revolver for Russia's internal security forces.[http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2100/2157.htm] Ritsuko conceals her R-92 in her lab coat during her confrontation with Gendo, though there is no indication that she normally carries the gun with her.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ritsukosrev1.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosrev2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Walther PPK]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gendo Ikari pulls his own gun on Ritsuko during their final confrontation, when she lets her guard down due to the base's self-destruct not activating as planned.  It's somewhat difficult to tell because of the angle, but it appears to be a Walther PPK.  Again, there's no indication that Gendo normally carries a gun with himself, and he may have just been carrying it because Nerv HQ was being invaded by the JSSDF.  Gendo says to Ritsuko &amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot; but then his line is muted out (originally a background explosion was going to be in, so the audience can't hear what he's saying but Ritsuko can, but then the creators thought it would be more &amp;quot;artsy&amp;quot; just to mute the line without an explosion).  We never find out what Gendo's infamous final line is, but it was something that &amp;quot;made Ritsuko feel so defeated that she doesn't even try to dodge Gendo's bullet&amp;quot; and welcomes death.  Ritsuko responds &amp;quot;Liar&amp;quot;, then Gendo shoots her once with his Walther PPK (''insert James Bond joke: &amp;quot;I only need one shot&amp;quot;''), the force of which knocks Ritsuko completely off of her feet and flying backwards into the pool of LCL behind her (it's not clear how realistic this is, but keep in mind that Ritsuko wasn't bracing for the shot at all).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gendoikariwaltherppk.png|thumb|none|300px|&amp;quot;Ritsuko Akagi, the truth is...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ritsukosentflying.png|thumb|none|300px|Ritsuko sent flying backwards from the force of Gendo's shot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the comic version Gendo has a revolver that resembles[[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19]] mounted with a laser pointer on the side. He is supposed to have killed Kaji with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Flame Thrower ==&lt;br /&gt;
A JSSDF soldier uses a flame thrower to flush-out and kill Nerv personnel.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seeleflamethrower.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Panzerfaust 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the JSSDF soldiers uses an Panzerfaust 3 while infiltrating Nerv headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seelesoldiersrpg-7.png|thumb|none|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anime]][[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>V</name></author>
	</entry>
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