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		<title>The Walking Dead (TV Series)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Glock 17 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the television series ''The Walking Dead'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Walking Dead'' (2010 - ????)]]&lt;br /&gt;
''The Walking Dead'' is a television series airing on AMC that chronicles the actions of County Sheriff's Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he leads a band of survivors after a pandemic has turned the population into zombies. The series was adapted for television by Frank Darabont (''[[The Shawshank Redemption]]'') from the Image comic book series. &lt;br /&gt;
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=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt Python==&lt;br /&gt;
Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) carries a six-inch barreled [[Colt Python]] .357 Magnum revolver as his duty sidearm in the series. He so far has used it the most in the pilot episode but has carried it through every episode so far and has fired in at least twice since, once in the attack in episode 4 as well as drawn it multiple times. He also briefly wields it in episode 5. Rick once again fires it as the group flee the CDC in Episode 6. Of note is that when Grimes fires the gun in a very tight, enclosed space (in this case, inside a tank), it actually severely disorients him and hurts his hearing, unlike most movies or shows that have people firing guns indoors or in other enclosed spaces without being fazed.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Python6in.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt Python with 6&amp;quot; Barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] into Hershel's barn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdead11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] sidearm at a threat.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonFront.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Grimes wields his Colt Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonAltAngle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes aims his Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadGrimesPythonrp01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Python on the foreground, and Shane on the background with his Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPython.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes wields his Python as the other deputies wield [[Glock 17]]s]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPyhonFence.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick holds the Python on Daryl Dixon. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep5.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes holds the Python on Daryl Dixon in episode 5. (It seems that this is becoming a habit.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Glock 17]] was one of the sidearms of the police in the first episode. One of the deputies was told by Grimes to have a round chambered and also (incorrectly) to make sure the safety was off. A Glock 17 is also taken by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) from Rick's gun bag to confront the Vatos in episode 4. Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) carries one as well as his duty sidearm, and is seen carrying it during the end of episode four, though he never fires it until Episode 6 when they are fleeing the CDC headquarters when he takes a shot on a zombie as they make a break for the vehicles. It can also be seen in Shane's hands in the opening flashback of episode 6 in the hospital. In Season 2 Episode 1 Andrea is seen practicing assembling a Glock 17. It may have been picked by the armorer because its easier to take down that the S&amp;amp;W Ladysmith. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A Generation 3 Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|T-Dog with a Glock 17 in a Season 2 Promotional still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Glock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A deputy aims his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17holsteredep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane keeps the Glock 17 holstered on his belt. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17ep04DD.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Daryl loads up a Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDG17ep6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with his Glock in episode 6's flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDGlock17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane takes a shot at a zombie (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P228==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the first episode uses what appears to be a two-tone [[SIG-Sauer P228]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Two_Tone_Sig_Sauer_P228.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P228 with Two-Tone finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-SIG.P228-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P228 at police.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP228.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The criminal fires the P228.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P226==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode four, Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) handles a black [[SIG-Sauer P226]] as he, Daryl, and T-Dog load up from the bag of guns as they prepare to confront the Vatos. It appears he may even have it tucked in the back of his belt during the confrontation later at the small of his back in addition to the Colt Python in his holster. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) picks up a SIG-Sauer P226 from the gun bag.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick inspects the SIG P226.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[M1911_pistol_series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] to wound Rick before being killed himself by Shane.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The thug fires at Rick and the other officer with his M1911A1.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Hi-Power==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) carries a chrome [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistol and uses it to threaten fellow group members in the second episode. The weapon is taken forcefully, then used by Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he and Glenn make their way to the truck.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SilverchromeHP.JPG|thumb|none|380px|FN Browning Hi-Power with chrome finish and adjustable sights - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadHPMearle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) holds the Hi-Power on T-Dog.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningHiPower.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) holds the Hi-Power to Dixon's ([[Michael Rooker]]) head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes a [[Beretta 92FS]] (standing in for a U.S. Military-issue M9) from a dead soldier inside a tank, identifying it as a Beretta with 15 rounds. He fires it until dry then stores it in Glen's Backpack. In the opening flashback of Episode 6, Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people with the Beretta in the hospital Rick is laying comatose in during the initial outbreak.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the soldiers in the hospital flashback in episode 6 uses a Non Gun Beretta 92FS when he's finishing off the bodies with a shot to the head. It appears to be used by both Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) &amp;amp; Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in Season 2. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Rick-Beretta-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rick-beretta.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ng_pistol_beretta92_blk.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92F Non Gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDNonGunBeretta.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier uses a flashpaper Beretta on the bodies. ''This was propably done for the safety of the extras who play the bodies, since the gun fires several times near them. Also, it's appearance is relatively brief, so there propably wasn't a need for a real blank firearm.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) carries a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913#Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;]] in the second episode. She later hands the pistol to Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) for his own protection when he and Rick make their way to the escape van, he does not fire it in the escape though. Andrea uses it in episode 5 to put her sister Amy down after she comes back as a walker.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W Model 3913.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot; - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Andrea points the S&amp;amp;W 3913 at Rick Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The S&amp;amp;W 3913 from another angle. Note the safety is on. Later Rick Grimes gives Andrea a brief lesson on handling the gun and instructs her to take the safety off before firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadLadySmith.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Andrea pulls the Ladysmith on Rick, and quips: '''I know how the safety works''', referring to when Rick corrected her on it. (Episode 5)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stainless steel Taurus Model 85==&lt;br /&gt;
A stainless [[Taurus Model 85]] is used by Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) in the pilot episode. It has a 5-shot cylinder but is not of the S&amp;amp;W J-frame series. The unique curved ejector shroud on a Taurus Model 85 is barely noticeble in the photos below. Most likely if it is not a [[Taurus Model 85]], it could possibly be a [[Ruger SP101]]. More in the [[Talk:Walking Dead (TV Series), The|Discussion]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Taurus85.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Taurus Model 85 (classic Model) in Blued Finish - .38 Spl.  Note the shape of the ejector shroud is like the one Morgan uses. The one in the show is a nickle version.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt Trooper==&lt;br /&gt;
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In episode 5 just before the group leaves for the CDC Headquarters, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) gives Morales ([[Juan Gabriel Pareja]]) what appears to be a [[Colt Trooper]] in .357 Magnum from the bag of guns when Morales and his family decide to leave the group to find their family in Birmingham. You can also hear Shane say &amp;quot;.357?&amp;quot; as well when Rick is getting it out of the bag.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image: Colt Trooper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Trooper - .357 magnum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Morales-Colt Trooper.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10==&lt;br /&gt;
A snub nose [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or two can be seen in the hands of the Vatos in episode 4 during the standoff in Atlanta, specifically Felipe ([[Noel G.]]). In episode 5, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) offers a Model 10 from the bag of guns to Jim who has been bitten to end himself, he declines.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub can be seen in the hands of Felipe ([[Noel G.]]) on the right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDDetSpecial.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Felipe holds a Model 10 snub nose.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDCDS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes offers Jim a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 as they leave him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15==&lt;br /&gt;
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What appears to be a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] is seen in the hands of one of Guillermo's right hand men, Jorge ([[James Gonzaba]]) in Episode 4 during the standoff.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] can possibly be seen in the hands of the gang member on the left.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unidentified Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
During the standoff in episode four, Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) has a handgun in the front of his waistband that is definitely not the Glock he loaded earlier on which is in the back of his waistband at the small of his back, having an external hammer, but the pistol seems to also have a different rear sight than the Sig featured in the earlier loading scene.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband1.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband2.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-size [[Mossberg 590]] is first seen being used by Rick's partner, Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) during the shootout with the suspects in the overturned vehicle in the pilot episode just before Rick is wounded in the line of duty. The shotgun is fitted with an extended magazine tube, heat-shield, collapsible KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock with pistol grip. It appears again later in Shane's possession at the survivor camp and can notably be seen being used by Shane on the attacking Walkers at the camp in episode 4. He also uses (aims) it in episode 5, when he and Rick Grimes patrol the woods. Shane also loses his cool when trapped in the CDC Headquarters in Episode 6 and uses it to blow up some computer monitors but later uses it in an attempt to bust the glass to escape which fails. Once outside, Shane uses the Mossberg to blast down walkers as the group runs to the vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg 590.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 590 with extended magazine tube and heat shield - 12 gauge. The Military version has a subdued matte finish, either matte blued or parkerized. Version in show has a KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image. for Season 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The_walking_dead_amc_cast_photo_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image.‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-1-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane with Mossberg 590 fitted with KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Side.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Opposite angle of the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Stock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The Mossberg 590 lays on the ground as Shane checks Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadShaneMossberg.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg in episode 5, when he is patrolling the woods with Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDShaneMossberg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane fires his shotgun out of frustration (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-3-Lori-Carl-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Shane holding shotgun at the survivor's camp.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) can first be seen using a 12 Gauge [[Mossberg 500]] in episode 4 of the series. He has it in his bag of guns from the police station that he gets back in episode 4, and uses this shotgun from the bag in the standoff with the Vatos. He ends up giving it to their leader, Guillermo ([[Neil Brown Jr.]]) after the Vatos turn out to be doing a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with high-capacity magazine tube - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadep04870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with a Mossberg 500 during the standoff in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Persuader==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) is using the persuader version of the [[Mossberg 500]] shotgun from Rick's bag of guns. He is seen with it in episode 4 carrying it and then uses it on the siege on the camp by the walkers. In episode 5 it appears he still has it and carries it as the group make their way to the CDC Headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 &amp;quot;Persuader&amp;quot; with standard five-shot magazine tube - 12 gauge.  This is the most commonly produced version of the 500 series today.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader.jpg|none|500px|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader2.jpg|none|thumb|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects that emerge from the wrecked car following a police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[Mossberg_500_series_shotgun#Mossberg_590_Cruiser_.2F_590_Compact_Cruiser|Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]] with door-breaching muzzle-brake.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossberg590CompactCruiserBreach.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 590 &amp;quot;Compact Cruiser&amp;quot; with door breaching brake - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Mossberg590.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect fires a Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser. Note door-breaching muzzle brake.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 Wingmaster==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Remington 870]] Wingmaster shotgun is briefly seen in episode 1 in the house Rick stops at, Rick also has one in his bag of guns which ends up with Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in episode 4 who uses it on the zombies attacking the camp.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870Fieldgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Field Gun with raised barrel ribbing and 28&amp;quot; barrel - 12 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead SemiautoShotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is using a [[Remington 870]] with a synthetic stock from Rick's bag of guns in episode 4 during the standoff and on the walker's siege on the survivor camp. He appears to be carrying it still in episode 5 as the group make their way to the CDC. In the premiere episode of season 2,  Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) is briefly seen carrying the synthetic 870 when they first go back to check for Sophia whose gone missing. Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) also carries a walnut-stock Remington 870 during the &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; with the Vatos in episode four. He still carries it in episodes 5 and 6, along with his crossbow.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead870ep04DD.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Daryl Dixon with Remington 870 (Episode 4).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870Daryl.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Close-up of Daryl's Remington.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Glenn870.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) holding the synthetic [[Remington 870]] in the Season 2 premiere episode, &amp;quot;What Lies Ahead&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Glenn870two.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) stands guard with the Remington in &amp;quot;What Lies Ahead&amp;quot; While some of the group observes tracks in the woods left by Sophia.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump Compact==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) appears to be using a [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact with a wood stock for the remainder of episode 4 to replace the Mossberg he gave to Guillermo. He fires it in the camp during the attack and then carries it as well throughout episodes 5 and 6.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Photo_pardnerpump_youth.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|H&amp;amp;R Pardner Pump Compact - 20 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDPardner.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Pardner, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) is seen firing a [[Winchester Model 70]] bolt-action rifle atop a building at walkers in Episode 2. He also uses the rifle to rifle-butt T-Dog in a disagreement before Rick intervenes. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Merle ([[Michael Rooker]]) aims his rifle on a rooftop (Episode 2).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle'sRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger M77 Hawkeye==&lt;br /&gt;
Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) carries a what appears to be a Ruger M77 Hawkeye with a scope, he is seen with it in every episode usually slung over his back as he keeps watch over camp. Dale fires it on the walkers in episode 4 during the attack and carries it to the CDC. In Episode 6 it looks as if T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is carrying the rifle as the group flees the CDC and even fires it at least once.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rugerm77hawky.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ruger M77 Hawkeye rifle with scope - .270 Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingd6cards1072110.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) poses with his rifle in a promotional image, note the good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadRifleep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Dale aims his Ruger M77 in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 700 BDL==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode 1, a scoped [[Remington Model 700|Remington 700 BDL]] is given to Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) by Rick Grimes from the police station arsenal. Morgan uses it to brush up on his marksmanship skills from the second story window of his hideout. To note when he is setting up to kill his wife (yet he is unable to bring himself to do so.) He takes an I.D. Photo and sets it up like a hide sight giving us a possibility of being a sniper in the past.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington_700_BDL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 700 BDL rifle with no iron sights and scope - .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Remington700.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Morgan-Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Automatic Rifle Safari==&lt;br /&gt;
A scoped [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]] is briefly seen being used by T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) during the standoff in episode 4 with the gangsters in Atlanta.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Browning BAR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mk II Safari Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|T-Dog with his Safari.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|As T-Dog aims his Safari during the standoff, we get a good look at the stock of the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Assault Rifles =&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1==&lt;br /&gt;
[[M4A1]] assault rifles can be seen abandoned with several dead soldiers and other military personnel around the CDC Headquarters in episode 5. It is seen in the opening sequence of Episode 6 when Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people inside the hospital. An M4A1 is also carried by Dr. Edwin Jenner ([[Noah Emmerich]]) later in the same episode when he first confronts the group he allowed inside.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier with an M4 during the hospital flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same soldier gets grabbed behind by a zombie, which causes him to wildly empty his magazine into his fellow soldiers. Note the enlarged muzzle on the rifle, indicating it is a flashpaper [[&amp;quot;Non_Guns&amp;quot;#M16A2|Non Gun]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dr. Jenner with an M4A1 fitted with an Aimpoint Sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the handguard of Jenner's M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Machine Guns =&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning M2HB==&lt;br /&gt;
A fake [[Browning M2HB]] is seen mounted atop a British Chieftain tank presumably standing in for an M1 Abrams, in which Grimes takes refuge. M2HBs are also seen on Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopters and on a IAV Stryker. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The fake M2HB is visible on the hatch, with a real M2HB in the foreground. As seems common for Chieftains standing in for other tanks, the thermal sleeve has been removed from the L11A5 L/55 120mm rifled cannon. This appears to be a Mark 11 tank, mounting the &amp;quot;Stillbrew&amp;quot; bolt-on armour package for the driver's position and turret, and minus the .50 cal coaxial ranging machine gun and the large infrared searchlight box on the left hand side of the turret.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the mounting; note that the mounting is designed for the L7 GPMG, an FN MAG derivative, and the fake M2 simply sits on top of it. Compare to the real M2 in the foreground of the shot above.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==DShK==&lt;br /&gt;
Outside of the CDC, a [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen rested against sandbags. Likely a mocked-up Browning M2.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Russian DShKM on Tripod - 12.7x108mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD1.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Other Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M67 Hand Grenade (M69 Training version)==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes an [[M67 hand grenade|M69 Hand Grenade]] (The inert training version of the live M67 grenade) from a tank and stores it in his pocket. It can be noted as an M69 not only by the inherent likelihood of it being so but also because it is seen in some shots with a bit of the blue paint showing through the over painted OD green color. [[Image:M67.jpg‎|thumb|none|200px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade. The real live version has a more brownish color and has painted factory markings on the body.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_grenade.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Horton Scout Crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
A Horton Scout HD 125 Crossbow is used by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) as his weapon of choice. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P3942065p275w.jpg|none|thumb|300px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Twd_crossbow.jpg‎|none|thumb|400px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rick's Bag of Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) ransacked his police station armory in episode one and throughout the first season is seen with a bag of guns from what he cleared out there which throughout the season ends up in the hands and used by fellow survivors in the group or himself, or given away. Inside the bag up to episode 4 is six shotguns, two high-powered rifles, a dozen handguns, and seven hundred rounds of ammunition, assorted. So far the current count from the bag is [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact, [[Mossberg 500]], [[Mossberg 500 Persuader]], two [[Remington 870]]s, [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]], [[Remington 700]], [[Glock 17]] (possibly more then one), [[SIG-Sauer P226]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub-nose, and a [[Colt Trooper]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem1187.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Rick carries his bag of ransacked police station guns on horseback to Atlanta in the Pilot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>The Walking Dead (TV Series)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Mossberg 590 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the television series ''The Walking Dead'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Walking Dead'' (2010 - ????)]]&lt;br /&gt;
''The Walking Dead'' is a television series airing on AMC that chronicles the actions of County Sheriff's Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he leads a band of survivors after a pandemic has turned the population into zombies. The series was adapted for television by Frank Darabont (''[[The Shawshank Redemption]]'') from the Image comic book series. &lt;br /&gt;
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=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt Python==&lt;br /&gt;
Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) carries a six-inch barreled [[Colt Python]] .357 Magnum revolver as his duty sidearm in the series. He so far has used it the most in the pilot episode but has carried it through every episode so far and has fired in at least twice since, once in the attack in episode 4 as well as drawn it multiple times. He also briefly wields it in episode 5. Rick once again fires it as the group flee the CDC in Episode 6. Of note is that when Grimes fires the gun in a very tight, enclosed space (in this case, inside a tank), it actually severely disorients him and hurts his hearing, unlike most movies or shows that have people firing guns indoors or in other enclosed spaces without being fazed.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Python6in.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt Python with 6&amp;quot; Barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] into Hershel's barn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdead11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] sidearm at a threat.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonFront.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Grimes wields his Colt Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonAltAngle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes aims his Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadGrimesPythonrp01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Python on the foreground, and Shane on the background with his Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPython.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes wields his Python as the other deputies wield [[Glock 17]]s]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPyhonFence.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick holds the Python on Daryl Dixon. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep5.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes holds the Python on Daryl Dixon in episode 5. (It seems that this is becoming a habit.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Glock 17]] was one of the sidearms of the police in the first episode. One of the deputies was told by Grimes to have a round chambered and also (incorrectly) to make sure the safety was off. A Glock 17 is also taken by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) from Rick's gun bag to confront the Vatos in episode 4. Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) carries one as well as his duty sidearm, and is seen carrying it during the end of episode four, though he never fires it until Episode 6 when they are fleeing the CDC headquarters when he takes a shot on a zombie as they make a break for the vehicles. It can also be seen in Shane's hands in the opening flashback of episode 6 in the hospital. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A Generation 3 Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|T-Dog with a Glock 17 in a Season 2 Promotional still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Glock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A deputy aims his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17holsteredep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane keeps the Glock 17 holstered on his belt. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17ep04DD.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Daryl loads up a Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDG17ep6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with his Glock in episode 6's flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDGlock17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane takes a shot at a zombie (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P228==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the first episode uses what appears to be a two-tone [[SIG-Sauer P228]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Two_Tone_Sig_Sauer_P228.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P228 with Two-Tone finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-SIG.P228-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P228 at police.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP228.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The criminal fires the P228.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P226==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode four, Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) handles a black [[SIG-Sauer P226]] as he, Daryl, and T-Dog load up from the bag of guns as they prepare to confront the Vatos. It appears he may even have it tucked in the back of his belt during the confrontation later at the small of his back in addition to the Colt Python in his holster. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) picks up a SIG-Sauer P226 from the gun bag.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick inspects the SIG P226.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[M1911_pistol_series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] to wound Rick before being killed himself by Shane.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The thug fires at Rick and the other officer with his M1911A1.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Hi-Power==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) carries a chrome [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistol and uses it to threaten fellow group members in the second episode. The weapon is taken forcefully, then used by Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he and Glenn make their way to the truck.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SilverchromeHP.JPG|thumb|none|380px|FN Browning Hi-Power with chrome finish and adjustable sights - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadHPMearle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) holds the Hi-Power on T-Dog.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningHiPower.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) holds the Hi-Power to Dixon's ([[Michael Rooker]]) head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes a [[Beretta 92FS]] (standing in for a U.S. Military-issue M9) from a dead soldier inside a tank, identifying it as a Beretta with 15 rounds. He fires it until dry then stores it in Glen's Backpack. In the opening flashback of Episode 6, Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people with the Beretta in the hospital Rick is laying comatose in during the initial outbreak.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the soldiers in the hospital flashback in episode 6 uses a Non Gun Beretta 92FS when he's finishing off the bodies with a shot to the head. It appears to be used by both Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) &amp;amp; Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in Season 2. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Rick-Beretta-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rick-beretta.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ng_pistol_beretta92_blk.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92F Non Gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDNonGunBeretta.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier uses a flashpaper Beretta on the bodies. ''This was propably done for the safety of the extras who play the bodies, since the gun fires several times near them. Also, it's appearance is relatively brief, so there propably wasn't a need for a real blank firearm.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) carries a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913#Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;]] in the second episode. She later hands the pistol to Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) for his own protection when he and Rick make their way to the escape van, he does not fire it in the escape though. Andrea uses it in episode 5 to put her sister Amy down after she comes back as a walker.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W Model 3913.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot; - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Andrea points the S&amp;amp;W 3913 at Rick Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The S&amp;amp;W 3913 from another angle. Note the safety is on. Later Rick Grimes gives Andrea a brief lesson on handling the gun and instructs her to take the safety off before firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadLadySmith.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Andrea pulls the Ladysmith on Rick, and quips: '''I know how the safety works''', referring to when Rick corrected her on it. (Episode 5)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stainless steel Taurus Model 85==&lt;br /&gt;
A stainless [[Taurus Model 85]] is used by Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) in the pilot episode. It has a 5-shot cylinder but is not of the S&amp;amp;W J-frame series. The unique curved ejector shroud on a Taurus Model 85 is barely noticeble in the photos below. Most likely if it is not a [[Taurus Model 85]], it could possibly be a [[Ruger SP101]]. More in the [[Talk:Walking Dead (TV Series), The|Discussion]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Taurus85.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Taurus Model 85 (classic Model) in Blued Finish - .38 Spl.  Note the shape of the ejector shroud is like the one Morgan uses. The one in the show is a nickle version.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt Trooper==&lt;br /&gt;
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In episode 5 just before the group leaves for the CDC Headquarters, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) gives Morales ([[Juan Gabriel Pareja]]) what appears to be a [[Colt Trooper]] in .357 Magnum from the bag of guns when Morales and his family decide to leave the group to find their family in Birmingham. You can also hear Shane say &amp;quot;.357?&amp;quot; as well when Rick is getting it out of the bag.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image: Colt Trooper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Trooper - .357 magnum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Morales-Colt Trooper.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10==&lt;br /&gt;
A snub nose [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or two can be seen in the hands of the Vatos in episode 4 during the standoff in Atlanta, specifically Felipe ([[Noel G.]]). In episode 5, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) offers a Model 10 from the bag of guns to Jim who has been bitten to end himself, he declines.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub can be seen in the hands of Felipe ([[Noel G.]]) on the right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDDetSpecial.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Felipe holds a Model 10 snub nose.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDCDS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes offers Jim a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 as they leave him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15==&lt;br /&gt;
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What appears to be a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] is seen in the hands of one of Guillermo's right hand men, Jorge ([[James Gonzaba]]) in Episode 4 during the standoff.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] can possibly be seen in the hands of the gang member on the left.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unidentified Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
During the standoff in episode four, Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) has a handgun in the front of his waistband that is definitely not the Glock he loaded earlier on which is in the back of his waistband at the small of his back, having an external hammer, but the pistol seems to also have a different rear sight than the Sig featured in the earlier loading scene.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband1.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband2.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-size [[Mossberg 590]] is first seen being used by Rick's partner, Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) during the shootout with the suspects in the overturned vehicle in the pilot episode just before Rick is wounded in the line of duty. The shotgun is fitted with an extended magazine tube, heat-shield, collapsible KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock with pistol grip. It appears again later in Shane's possession at the survivor camp and can notably be seen being used by Shane on the attacking Walkers at the camp in episode 4. He also uses (aims) it in episode 5, when he and Rick Grimes patrol the woods. Shane also loses his cool when trapped in the CDC Headquarters in Episode 6 and uses it to blow up some computer monitors but later uses it in an attempt to bust the glass to escape which fails. Once outside, Shane uses the Mossberg to blast down walkers as the group runs to the vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg 590.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 590 with extended magazine tube and heat shield - 12 gauge. The Military version has a subdued matte finish, either matte blued or parkerized. Version in show has a KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image. for Season 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The_walking_dead_amc_cast_photo_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image.‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-1-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane with Mossberg 590 fitted with KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Side.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Opposite angle of the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Stock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The Mossberg 590 lays on the ground as Shane checks Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadShaneMossberg.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg in episode 5, when he is patrolling the woods with Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDShaneMossberg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane fires his shotgun out of frustration (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-3-Lori-Carl-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Shane holding shotgun at the survivor's camp.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) can first be seen using a 12 Gauge [[Mossberg 500]] in episode 4 of the series. He has it in his bag of guns from the police station that he gets back in episode 4, and uses this shotgun from the bag in the standoff with the Vatos. He ends up giving it to their leader, Guillermo ([[Neil Brown Jr.]]) after the Vatos turn out to be doing a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with high-capacity magazine tube - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadep04870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with a Mossberg 500 during the standoff in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Persuader==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) is using the persuader version of the [[Mossberg 500]] shotgun from Rick's bag of guns. He is seen with it in episode 4 carrying it and then uses it on the siege on the camp by the walkers. In episode 5 it appears he still has it and carries it as the group make their way to the CDC Headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 &amp;quot;Persuader&amp;quot; with standard five-shot magazine tube - 12 gauge.  This is the most commonly produced version of the 500 series today.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader.jpg|none|500px|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader2.jpg|none|thumb|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects that emerge from the wrecked car following a police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[Mossberg_500_series_shotgun#Mossberg_590_Cruiser_.2F_590_Compact_Cruiser|Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]] with door-breaching muzzle-brake.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossberg590CompactCruiserBreach.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 590 &amp;quot;Compact Cruiser&amp;quot; with door breaching brake - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Mossberg590.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect fires a Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser. Note door-breaching muzzle brake.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 Wingmaster==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Remington 870]] Wingmaster shotgun is briefly seen in episode 1 in the house Rick stops at, Rick also has one in his bag of guns which ends up with Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in episode 4 who uses it on the zombies attacking the camp.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870Fieldgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Field Gun with raised barrel ribbing and 28&amp;quot; barrel - 12 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead SemiautoShotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is using a [[Remington 870]] with a synthetic stock from Rick's bag of guns in episode 4 during the standoff and on the walker's siege on the survivor camp. He appears to be carrying it still in episode 5 as the group make their way to the CDC. Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) also carries a walnut-stock Remington 870 during the &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; with the Vatos in episode four. He still carries it in episodes 5 and 6, along with his crossbow.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead870ep04DD.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Daryl Dixon with Remington 870 (Episode 4).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870Daryl.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Close-up of Daryl's Remington.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump Compact==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) appears to be using a [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact with a wood stock for the remainder of episode 4 to replace the Mossberg he gave to Guillermo. He fires it in the camp during the attack and then carries it as well throughout episodes 5 and 6.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Photo_pardnerpump_youth.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|H&amp;amp;R Pardner Pump Compact - 20 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDPardner.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Pardner, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) is seen firing a [[Winchester Model 70]] bolt-action rifle atop a building at walkers in Episode 2. He also uses the rifle to rifle-butt T-Dog in a disagreement before Rick intervenes. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Merle ([[Michael Rooker]]) aims his rifle on a rooftop (Episode 2).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle'sRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger M77 Hawkeye==&lt;br /&gt;
Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) carries a what appears to be a Ruger M77 Hawkeye with a scope, he is seen with it in every episode usually slung over his back as he keeps watch over camp. Dale fires it on the walkers in episode 4 during the attack and carries it to the CDC. In Episode 6 it looks as if T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is carrying the rifle as the group flees the CDC and even fires it at least once.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rugerm77hawky.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ruger M77 Hawkeye rifle with scope - .270 Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingd6cards1072110.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) poses with his rifle in a promotional image, note the good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadRifleep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Dale aims his Ruger M77 in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 700 BDL==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode 1, a scoped [[Remington Model 700|Remington 700 BDL]] is given to Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) by Rick Grimes from the police station arsenal. Morgan uses it to brush up on his marksmanship skills from the second story window of his hideout. To note when he is setting up to kill his wife (yet he is unable to bring himself to do so.) He takes an I.D. Photo and sets it up like a hide sight giving us a possibility of being a sniper in the past.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington_700_BDL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 700 BDL rifle with no iron sights and scope - .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Remington700.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Morgan-Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Automatic Rifle Safari==&lt;br /&gt;
A scoped [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]] is briefly seen being used by T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) during the standoff in episode 4 with the gangsters in Atlanta.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Browning BAR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mk II Safari Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|T-Dog with his Safari.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|As T-Dog aims his Safari during the standoff, we get a good look at the stock of the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Assault Rifles =&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1==&lt;br /&gt;
[[M4A1]] assault rifles can be seen abandoned with several dead soldiers and other military personnel around the CDC Headquarters in episode 5. It is seen in the opening sequence of Episode 6 when Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people inside the hospital. An M4A1 is also carried by Dr. Edwin Jenner ([[Noah Emmerich]]) later in the same episode when he first confronts the group he allowed inside.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier with an M4 during the hospital flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same soldier gets grabbed behind by a zombie, which causes him to wildly empty his magazine into his fellow soldiers. Note the enlarged muzzle on the rifle, indicating it is a flashpaper [[&amp;quot;Non_Guns&amp;quot;#M16A2|Non Gun]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dr. Jenner with an M4A1 fitted with an Aimpoint Sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the handguard of Jenner's M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Machine Guns =&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning M2HB==&lt;br /&gt;
A fake [[Browning M2HB]] is seen mounted atop a British Chieftain tank presumably standing in for an M1 Abrams, in which Grimes takes refuge. M2HBs are also seen on Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopters and on a IAV Stryker. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The fake M2HB is visible on the hatch, with a real M2HB in the foreground. As seems common for Chieftains standing in for other tanks, the thermal sleeve has been removed from the L11A5 L/55 120mm rifled cannon. This appears to be a Mark 11 tank, mounting the &amp;quot;Stillbrew&amp;quot; bolt-on armour package for the driver's position and turret, and minus the .50 cal coaxial ranging machine gun and the large infrared searchlight box on the left hand side of the turret.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the mounting; note that the mounting is designed for the L7 GPMG, an FN MAG derivative, and the fake M2 simply sits on top of it. Compare to the real M2 in the foreground of the shot above.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==DShK==&lt;br /&gt;
Outside of the CDC, a [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen rested against sandbags. Likely a mocked-up Browning M2.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Russian DShKM on Tripod - 12.7x108mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD1.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Other Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M67 Hand Grenade (M69 Training version)==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes an [[M67 hand grenade|M69 Hand Grenade]] (The inert training version of the live M67 grenade) from a tank and stores it in his pocket. It can be noted as an M69 not only by the inherent likelihood of it being so but also because it is seen in some shots with a bit of the blue paint showing through the over painted OD green color. [[Image:M67.jpg‎|thumb|none|200px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade. The real live version has a more brownish color and has painted factory markings on the body.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_grenade.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Horton Scout Crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
A Horton Scout HD 125 Crossbow is used by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) as his weapon of choice. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P3942065p275w.jpg|none|thumb|300px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Twd_crossbow.jpg‎|none|thumb|400px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rick's Bag of Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) ransacked his police station armory in episode one and throughout the first season is seen with a bag of guns from what he cleared out there which throughout the season ends up in the hands and used by fellow survivors in the group or himself, or given away. Inside the bag up to episode 4 is six shotguns, two high-powered rifles, a dozen handguns, and seven hundred rounds of ammunition, assorted. So far the current count from the bag is [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact, [[Mossberg 500]], [[Mossberg 500 Persuader]], two [[Remington 870]]s, [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]], [[Remington 700]], [[Glock 17]] (possibly more then one), [[SIG-Sauer P226]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub-nose, and a [[Colt Trooper]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem1187.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Rick carries his bag of ransacked police station guns on horseback to Atlanta in the Pilot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Television]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>The Walking Dead (TV Series)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Colt Python */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the television series ''The Walking Dead'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Walking Dead'' (2010 - ????)]]&lt;br /&gt;
''The Walking Dead'' is a television series airing on AMC that chronicles the actions of County Sheriff's Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he leads a band of survivors after a pandemic has turned the population into zombies. The series was adapted for television by Frank Darabont (''[[The Shawshank Redemption]]'') from the Image comic book series. &lt;br /&gt;
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=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt Python==&lt;br /&gt;
Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) carries a six-inch barreled [[Colt Python]] .357 Magnum revolver as his duty sidearm in the series. He so far has used it the most in the pilot episode but has carried it through every episode so far and has fired in at least twice since, once in the attack in episode 4 as well as drawn it multiple times. He also briefly wields it in episode 5. Rick once again fires it as the group flee the CDC in Episode 6. Of note is that when Grimes fires the gun in a very tight, enclosed space (in this case, inside a tank), it actually severely disorients him and hurts his hearing, unlike most movies or shows that have people firing guns indoors or in other enclosed spaces without being fazed.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Python6in.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt Python with 6&amp;quot; Barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] into Hershel's barn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdead11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] sidearm at a threat.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonFront.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Grimes wields his Colt Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonAltAngle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes aims his Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadGrimesPythonrp01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Python on the foreground, and Shane on the background with his Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPython.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes wields his Python as the other deputies wield [[Glock 17]]s]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPyhonFence.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick holds the Python on Daryl Dixon. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep5.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes holds the Python on Daryl Dixon in episode 5. (It seems that this is becoming a habit.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Glock 17]] was one of the sidearms of the police in the first episode. One of the deputies was told by Grimes to have a round chambered and also (incorrectly) to make sure the safety was off. A Glock 17 is also taken by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) from Rick's gun bag to confront the Vatos in episode 4. Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) carries one as well as his duty sidearm, and is seen carrying it during the end of episode four, though he never fires it until Episode 6 when they are fleeing the CDC headquarters when he takes a shot on a zombie as they make a break for the vehicles. It can also be seen in Shane's hands in the opening flashback of episode 6 in the hospital. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A Generation 3 Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|T-Dog with a Glock 17 in a Season 2 Promotional still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Glock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A deputy aims his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17holsteredep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane keeps the Glock 17 holstered on his belt. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17ep04DD.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Daryl loads up a Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDG17ep6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with his Glock in episode 6's flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDGlock17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane takes a shot at a zombie (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P228==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the first episode uses what appears to be a two-tone [[SIG-Sauer P228]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Two_Tone_Sig_Sauer_P228.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P228 with Two-Tone finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-SIG.P228-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P228 at police.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP228.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The criminal fires the P228.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P226==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode four, Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) handles a black [[SIG-Sauer P226]] as he, Daryl, and T-Dog load up from the bag of guns as they prepare to confront the Vatos. It appears he may even have it tucked in the back of his belt during the confrontation later at the small of his back in addition to the Colt Python in his holster. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) picks up a SIG-Sauer P226 from the gun bag.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick inspects the SIG P226.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[M1911_pistol_series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] to wound Rick before being killed himself by Shane.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The thug fires at Rick and the other officer with his M1911A1.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Hi-Power==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) carries a chrome [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistol and uses it to threaten fellow group members in the second episode. The weapon is taken forcefully, then used by Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he and Glenn make their way to the truck.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SilverchromeHP.JPG|thumb|none|380px|FN Browning Hi-Power with chrome finish and adjustable sights - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadHPMearle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) holds the Hi-Power on T-Dog.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningHiPower.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) holds the Hi-Power to Dixon's ([[Michael Rooker]]) head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes a [[Beretta 92FS]] (standing in for a U.S. Military-issue M9) from a dead soldier inside a tank, identifying it as a Beretta with 15 rounds. He fires it until dry then stores it in Glen's Backpack. In the opening flashback of Episode 6, Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people with the Beretta in the hospital Rick is laying comatose in during the initial outbreak.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the soldiers in the hospital flashback in episode 6 uses a Non Gun Beretta 92FS when he's finishing off the bodies with a shot to the head. It appears to be used by both Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) &amp;amp; Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in Season 2. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Rick-Beretta-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rick-beretta.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ng_pistol_beretta92_blk.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92F Non Gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDNonGunBeretta.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier uses a flashpaper Beretta on the bodies. ''This was propably done for the safety of the extras who play the bodies, since the gun fires several times near them. Also, it's appearance is relatively brief, so there propably wasn't a need for a real blank firearm.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) carries a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913#Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;]] in the second episode. She later hands the pistol to Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) for his own protection when he and Rick make their way to the escape van, he does not fire it in the escape though. Andrea uses it in episode 5 to put her sister Amy down after she comes back as a walker.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W Model 3913.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot; - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Andrea points the S&amp;amp;W 3913 at Rick Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The S&amp;amp;W 3913 from another angle. Note the safety is on. Later Rick Grimes gives Andrea a brief lesson on handling the gun and instructs her to take the safety off before firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadLadySmith.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Andrea pulls the Ladysmith on Rick, and quips: '''I know how the safety works''', referring to when Rick corrected her on it. (Episode 5)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stainless steel Taurus Model 85==&lt;br /&gt;
A stainless [[Taurus Model 85]] is used by Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) in the pilot episode. It has a 5-shot cylinder but is not of the S&amp;amp;W J-frame series. The unique curved ejector shroud on a Taurus Model 85 is barely noticeble in the photos below. Most likely if it is not a [[Taurus Model 85]], it could possibly be a [[Ruger SP101]]. More in the [[Talk:Walking Dead (TV Series), The|Discussion]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Taurus85.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Taurus Model 85 (classic Model) in Blued Finish - .38 Spl.  Note the shape of the ejector shroud is like the one Morgan uses. The one in the show is a nickle version.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt Trooper==&lt;br /&gt;
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In episode 5 just before the group leaves for the CDC Headquarters, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) gives Morales ([[Juan Gabriel Pareja]]) what appears to be a [[Colt Trooper]] in .357 Magnum from the bag of guns when Morales and his family decide to leave the group to find their family in Birmingham. You can also hear Shane say &amp;quot;.357?&amp;quot; as well when Rick is getting it out of the bag.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image: Colt Trooper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Trooper - .357 magnum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Morales-Colt Trooper.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10==&lt;br /&gt;
A snub nose [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or two can be seen in the hands of the Vatos in episode 4 during the standoff in Atlanta, specifically Felipe ([[Noel G.]]). In episode 5, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) offers a Model 10 from the bag of guns to Jim who has been bitten to end himself, he declines.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub can be seen in the hands of Felipe ([[Noel G.]]) on the right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDDetSpecial.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Felipe holds a Model 10 snub nose.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDCDS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes offers Jim a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 as they leave him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15==&lt;br /&gt;
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What appears to be a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] is seen in the hands of one of Guillermo's right hand men, Jorge ([[James Gonzaba]]) in Episode 4 during the standoff.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] can possibly be seen in the hands of the gang member on the left.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unidentified Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
During the standoff in episode four, Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) has a handgun in the front of his waistband that is definitely not the Glock he loaded earlier on which is in the back of his waistband at the small of his back, having an external hammer, but the pistol seems to also have a different rear sight than the Sig featured in the earlier loading scene.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband1.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband2.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-size [[Mossberg 590]] is first seen being used by Rick's partner, Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) during the shootout with the suspects in the overturned vehicle in the pilot episode just before Rick is wounded in the line of duty. The shotgun is fitted with an extended magazine tube, heat-shield, collapsible KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock with pistol grip. It appears again later in Shane's possession at the survivor camp and can notably be seen being used by Shane on the attacking Walkers at the camp in episode 4. He also uses (aims) it in episode 5, when he and Rick Grimes patrol the woods. Shane also loses his cool when trapped in the CDC Headquarters in Episode 6 and uses it to blow up some computer monitors but later uses it in an attempt to bust the glass to escape which fails. Once outside, Shane uses the Mossberg to blast down walkers as the group runs to the vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg 590.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 590 with extended magazine tube and heat shield - 12 gauge. The Military version has a subdued matte finish, either matte blued or parkerized. Version in show has a KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-4.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image. for Season 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The_walking_dead_amc_cast_photo_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image.‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-1-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane with Mossberg 590 fitted with KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Side.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Opposite angle of the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Stock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The Mossberg 590 lays on the ground as Shane checks Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadShaneMossberg.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg in episode 5, when he is patrolling the woods with Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDShaneMossberg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane fires his shotgun out of frustration (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-3-Lori-Carl-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Shane holding shotgun at the survivor's camp.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) can first be seen using a 12 Gauge [[Mossberg 500]] in episode 4 of the series. He has it in his bag of guns from the police station that he gets back in episode 4, and uses this shotgun from the bag in the standoff with the Vatos. He ends up giving it to their leader, Guillermo ([[Neil Brown Jr.]]) after the Vatos turn out to be doing a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with high-capacity magazine tube - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadep04870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with a Mossberg 500 during the standoff in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Persuader==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) is using the persuader version of the [[Mossberg 500]] shotgun from Rick's bag of guns. He is seen with it in episode 4 carrying it and then uses it on the siege on the camp by the walkers. In episode 5 it appears he still has it and carries it as the group make their way to the CDC Headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 &amp;quot;Persuader&amp;quot; with standard five-shot magazine tube - 12 gauge.  This is the most commonly produced version of the 500 series today.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader.jpg|none|500px|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader2.jpg|none|thumb|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects that emerge from the wrecked car following a police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[Mossberg_500_series_shotgun#Mossberg_590_Cruiser_.2F_590_Compact_Cruiser|Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]] with door-breaching muzzle-brake.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossberg590CompactCruiserBreach.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 590 &amp;quot;Compact Cruiser&amp;quot; with door breaching brake - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Mossberg590.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect fires a Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser. Note door-breaching muzzle brake.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 Wingmaster==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Remington 870]] Wingmaster shotgun is briefly seen in episode 1 in the house Rick stops at, Rick also has one in his bag of guns which ends up with Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in episode 4 who uses it on the zombies attacking the camp.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870Fieldgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Field Gun with raised barrel ribbing and 28&amp;quot; barrel - 12 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead SemiautoShotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is using a [[Remington 870]] with a synthetic stock from Rick's bag of guns in episode 4 during the standoff and on the walker's siege on the survivor camp. He appears to be carrying it still in episode 5 as the group make their way to the CDC. Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) also carries a walnut-stock Remington 870 during the &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; with the Vatos in episode four. He still carries it in episodes 5 and 6, along with his crossbow.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead870ep04DD.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Daryl Dixon with Remington 870 (Episode 4).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870Daryl.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Close-up of Daryl's Remington.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump Compact==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) appears to be using a [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact with a wood stock for the remainder of episode 4 to replace the Mossberg he gave to Guillermo. He fires it in the camp during the attack and then carries it as well throughout episodes 5 and 6.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Photo_pardnerpump_youth.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|H&amp;amp;R Pardner Pump Compact - 20 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDPardner.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Pardner, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) is seen firing a [[Winchester Model 70]] bolt-action rifle atop a building at walkers in Episode 2. He also uses the rifle to rifle-butt T-Dog in a disagreement before Rick intervenes. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Merle ([[Michael Rooker]]) aims his rifle on a rooftop (Episode 2).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle'sRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger M77 Hawkeye==&lt;br /&gt;
Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) carries a what appears to be a Ruger M77 Hawkeye with a scope, he is seen with it in every episode usually slung over his back as he keeps watch over camp. Dale fires it on the walkers in episode 4 during the attack and carries it to the CDC. In Episode 6 it looks as if T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is carrying the rifle as the group flees the CDC and even fires it at least once.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rugerm77hawky.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ruger M77 Hawkeye rifle with scope - .270 Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingd6cards1072110.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) poses with his rifle in a promotional image, note the good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadRifleep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Dale aims his Ruger M77 in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 700 BDL==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode 1, a scoped [[Remington Model 700|Remington 700 BDL]] is given to Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) by Rick Grimes from the police station arsenal. Morgan uses it to brush up on his marksmanship skills from the second story window of his hideout. To note when he is setting up to kill his wife (yet he is unable to bring himself to do so.) He takes an I.D. Photo and sets it up like a hide sight giving us a possibility of being a sniper in the past.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington_700_BDL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 700 BDL rifle with no iron sights and scope - .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Remington700.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Morgan-Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Automatic Rifle Safari==&lt;br /&gt;
A scoped [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]] is briefly seen being used by T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) during the standoff in episode 4 with the gangsters in Atlanta.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Browning BAR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mk II Safari Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|T-Dog with his Safari.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|As T-Dog aims his Safari during the standoff, we get a good look at the stock of the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Assault Rifles =&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1==&lt;br /&gt;
[[M4A1]] assault rifles can be seen abandoned with several dead soldiers and other military personnel around the CDC Headquarters in episode 5. It is seen in the opening sequence of Episode 6 when Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people inside the hospital. An M4A1 is also carried by Dr. Edwin Jenner ([[Noah Emmerich]]) later in the same episode when he first confronts the group he allowed inside.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier with an M4 during the hospital flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same soldier gets grabbed behind by a zombie, which causes him to wildly empty his magazine into his fellow soldiers. Note the enlarged muzzle on the rifle, indicating it is a flashpaper [[&amp;quot;Non_Guns&amp;quot;#M16A2|Non Gun]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dr. Jenner with an M4A1 fitted with an Aimpoint Sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the handguard of Jenner's M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Machine Guns =&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning M2HB==&lt;br /&gt;
A fake [[Browning M2HB]] is seen mounted atop a British Chieftain tank presumably standing in for an M1 Abrams, in which Grimes takes refuge. M2HBs are also seen on Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopters and on a IAV Stryker. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The fake M2HB is visible on the hatch, with a real M2HB in the foreground. As seems common for Chieftains standing in for other tanks, the thermal sleeve has been removed from the L11A5 L/55 120mm rifled cannon. This appears to be a Mark 11 tank, mounting the &amp;quot;Stillbrew&amp;quot; bolt-on armour package for the driver's position and turret, and minus the .50 cal coaxial ranging machine gun and the large infrared searchlight box on the left hand side of the turret.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the mounting; note that the mounting is designed for the L7 GPMG, an FN MAG derivative, and the fake M2 simply sits on top of it. Compare to the real M2 in the foreground of the shot above.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==DShK==&lt;br /&gt;
Outside of the CDC, a [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen rested against sandbags. Likely a mocked-up Browning M2.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Russian DShKM on Tripod - 12.7x108mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD1.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Other Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M67 Hand Grenade (M69 Training version)==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes an [[M67 hand grenade|M69 Hand Grenade]] (The inert training version of the live M67 grenade) from a tank and stores it in his pocket. It can be noted as an M69 not only by the inherent likelihood of it being so but also because it is seen in some shots with a bit of the blue paint showing through the over painted OD green color. [[Image:M67.jpg‎|thumb|none|200px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade. The real live version has a more brownish color and has painted factory markings on the body.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_grenade.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Horton Scout Crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
A Horton Scout HD 125 Crossbow is used by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) as his weapon of choice. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P3942065p275w.jpg|none|thumb|300px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Twd_crossbow.jpg‎|none|thumb|400px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rick's Bag of Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) ransacked his police station armory in episode one and throughout the first season is seen with a bag of guns from what he cleared out there which throughout the season ends up in the hands and used by fellow survivors in the group or himself, or given away. Inside the bag up to episode 4 is six shotguns, two high-powered rifles, a dozen handguns, and seven hundred rounds of ammunition, assorted. So far the current count from the bag is [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact, [[Mossberg 500]], [[Mossberg 500 Persuader]], two [[Remington 870]]s, [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]], [[Remington 700]], [[Glock 17]] (possibly more then one), [[SIG-Sauer P226]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub-nose, and a [[Colt Trooper]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem1187.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Rick carries his bag of ransacked police station guns on horseback to Atlanta in the Pilot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>The Walking Dead (TV Series)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the television series ''The Walking Dead'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Walking Dead'' (2010 - ????)]]&lt;br /&gt;
''The Walking Dead'' is a television series airing on AMC that chronicles the actions of County Sheriff's Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he leads a band of survivors after a pandemic has turned the population into zombies. The series was adapted for television by Frank Darabont (''[[The Shawshank Redemption]]'') from the Image comic book series. &lt;br /&gt;
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=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt Python==&lt;br /&gt;
Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) carries a six-inch barreled [[Colt Python]] .357 Magnum revolver as his duty sidearm in the series. He so far has used it the most in the pilot episode but has carried it through every episode so far and has fired in at least twice since, once in the attack in episode 4 as well as drawn it multiple times. He also briefly wields it in episode 5. Rick once again fires it as the group flee the CDC in Episode 6. Of note is that when Grimes fires the gun in a very tight, enclosed space (in this case, inside a tank), it actually severely disorients him and hurts his hearing, unlike most movies or shows that have people firing guns indoors or in other enclosed spaces without being fazed.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Python6in.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt Python with 6&amp;quot; Barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] into Hershel's barn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdead11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] sidearm at a threat.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonFront.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Grimes wields his Colt Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonAltAngle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes aims his Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadGrimesPythonrp01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Python on the foreground, and Shane on the background with his Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPython.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes wields his Python as the other deputies wield [[Glock 17]]s]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPyhonFence.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick holds the Python on Daryl Dixon. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep5.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes holds the Python on Daryl Dixon in episode 5. (It seems that this is becoming a habit.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Glock 17]] was one of the sidearms of the police in the first episode. One of the deputies was told by Grimes to have a round chambered and also (incorrectly) to make sure the safety was off. A Glock 17 is also taken by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) from Rick's gun bag to confront the Vatos in episode 4. Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) carries one as well as his duty sidearm, and is seen carrying it during the end of episode four, though he never fires it until Episode 6 when they are fleeing the CDC headquarters when he takes a shot on a zombie as they make a break for the vehicles. It can also be seen in Shane's hands in the opening flashback of episode 6 in the hospital. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A Generation 3 Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|T-Dog with a Glock 17 in a Season 2 Promotional still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Glock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A deputy aims his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17holsteredep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane keeps the Glock 17 holstered on his belt. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17ep04DD.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Daryl loads up a Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDG17ep6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with his Glock in episode 6's flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDGlock17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane takes a shot at a zombie (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P228==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the first episode uses what appears to be a two-tone [[SIG-Sauer P228]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Two_Tone_Sig_Sauer_P228.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P228 with Two-Tone finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-SIG.P228-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P228 at police.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP228.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The criminal fires the P228.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P226==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode four, Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) handles a black [[SIG-Sauer P226]] as he, Daryl, and T-Dog load up from the bag of guns as they prepare to confront the Vatos. It appears he may even have it tucked in the back of his belt during the confrontation later at the small of his back in addition to the Colt Python in his holster. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) picks up a SIG-Sauer P226 from the gun bag.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick inspects the SIG P226.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[M1911_pistol_series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] to wound Rick before being killed himself by Shane.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The thug fires at Rick and the other officer with his M1911A1.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Hi-Power==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) carries a chrome [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistol and uses it to threaten fellow group members in the second episode. The weapon is taken forcefully, then used by Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he and Glenn make their way to the truck.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SilverchromeHP.JPG|thumb|none|380px|FN Browning Hi-Power with chrome finish and adjustable sights - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadHPMearle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) holds the Hi-Power on T-Dog.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningHiPower.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) holds the Hi-Power to Dixon's ([[Michael Rooker]]) head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes a [[Beretta 92FS]] (standing in for a U.S. Military-issue M9) from a dead soldier inside a tank, identifying it as a Beretta with 15 rounds. He fires it until dry then stores it in Glen's Backpack. In the opening flashback of Episode 6, Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people with the Beretta in the hospital Rick is laying comatose in during the initial outbreak.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the soldiers in the hospital flashback in episode 6 uses a Non Gun Beretta 92FS when he's finishing off the bodies with a shot to the head. It appears to be used by both Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) &amp;amp; Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in Season 2. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Rick-Beretta-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rick-beretta.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ng_pistol_beretta92_blk.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92F Non Gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDNonGunBeretta.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier uses a flashpaper Beretta on the bodies. ''This was propably done for the safety of the extras who play the bodies, since the gun fires several times near them. Also, it's appearance is relatively brief, so there propably wasn't a need for a real blank firearm.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) carries a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913#Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;]] in the second episode. She later hands the pistol to Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) for his own protection when he and Rick make their way to the escape van, he does not fire it in the escape though. Andrea uses it in episode 5 to put her sister Amy down after she comes back as a walker.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W Model 3913.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot; - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Andrea points the S&amp;amp;W 3913 at Rick Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The S&amp;amp;W 3913 from another angle. Note the safety is on. Later Rick Grimes gives Andrea a brief lesson on handling the gun and instructs her to take the safety off before firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadLadySmith.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Andrea pulls the Ladysmith on Rick, and quips: '''I know how the safety works''', referring to when Rick corrected her on it. (Episode 5)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stainless steel Taurus Model 85==&lt;br /&gt;
A stainless [[Taurus Model 85]] is used by Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) in the pilot episode. It has a 5-shot cylinder but is not of the S&amp;amp;W J-frame series. The unique curved ejector shroud on a Taurus Model 85 is barely noticeble in the photos below. Most likely if it is not a [[Taurus Model 85]], it could possibly be a [[Ruger SP101]]. More in the [[Talk:Walking Dead (TV Series), The|Discussion]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Taurus85.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Taurus Model 85 (classic Model) in Blued Finish - .38 Spl.  Note the shape of the ejector shroud is like the one Morgan uses. The one in the show is a nickle version.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt Trooper==&lt;br /&gt;
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In episode 5 just before the group leaves for the CDC Headquarters, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) gives Morales ([[Juan Gabriel Pareja]]) what appears to be a [[Colt Trooper]] in .357 Magnum from the bag of guns when Morales and his family decide to leave the group to find their family in Birmingham. You can also hear Shane say &amp;quot;.357?&amp;quot; as well when Rick is getting it out of the bag.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image: Colt Trooper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Trooper - .357 magnum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Morales-Colt Trooper.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10==&lt;br /&gt;
A snub nose [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or two can be seen in the hands of the Vatos in episode 4 during the standoff in Atlanta, specifically Felipe ([[Noel G.]]). In episode 5, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) offers a Model 10 from the bag of guns to Jim who has been bitten to end himself, he declines.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub can be seen in the hands of Felipe ([[Noel G.]]) on the right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDDetSpecial.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Felipe holds a Model 10 snub nose.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDCDS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes offers Jim a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 as they leave him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15==&lt;br /&gt;
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What appears to be a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] is seen in the hands of one of Guillermo's right hand men, Jorge ([[James Gonzaba]]) in Episode 4 during the standoff.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] can possibly be seen in the hands of the gang member on the left.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unidentified Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
During the standoff in episode four, Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) has a handgun in the front of his waistband that is definitely not the Glock he loaded earlier on which is in the back of his waistband at the small of his back, having an external hammer, but the pistol seems to also have a different rear sight than the Sig featured in the earlier loading scene.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband1.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband2.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-size [[Mossberg 590]] is first seen being used by Rick's partner, Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) during the shootout with the suspects in the overturned vehicle in the pilot episode just before Rick is wounded in the line of duty. The shotgun is fitted with an extended magazine tube, heat-shield, collapsible KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock with pistol grip. It appears again later in Shane's possession at the survivor camp and can notably be seen being used by Shane on the attacking Walkers at the camp in episode 4. He also uses (aims) it in episode 5, when he and Rick Grimes patrol the woods. Shane also loses his cool when trapped in the CDC Headquarters in Episode 6 and uses it to blow up some computer monitors but later uses it in an attempt to bust the glass to escape which fails. Once outside, Shane uses the Mossberg to blast down walkers as the group runs to the vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg 590.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 590 with extended magazine tube and heat shield - 12 gauge. The Military version has a subdued matte finish, either matte blued or parkerized. Version in show has a KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-4.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image. for Season 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The_walking_dead_amc_cast_photo_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image.‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-1-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane with Mossberg 590 fitted with KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Side.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Opposite angle of the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Stock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The Mossberg 590 lays on the ground as Shane checks Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadShaneMossberg.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg in episode 5, when he is patrolling the woods with Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDShaneMossberg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane fires his shotgun out of frustration (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-3-Lori-Carl-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Shane holding shotgun at the survivor's camp.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) can first be seen using a 12 Gauge [[Mossberg 500]] in episode 4 of the series. He has it in his bag of guns from the police station that he gets back in episode 4, and uses this shotgun from the bag in the standoff with the Vatos. He ends up giving it to their leader, Guillermo ([[Neil Brown Jr.]]) after the Vatos turn out to be doing a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with high-capacity magazine tube - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadep04870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with a Mossberg 500 during the standoff in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Persuader==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) is using the persuader version of the [[Mossberg 500]] shotgun from Rick's bag of guns. He is seen with it in episode 4 carrying it and then uses it on the siege on the camp by the walkers. In episode 5 it appears he still has it and carries it as the group make their way to the CDC Headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 &amp;quot;Persuader&amp;quot; with standard five-shot magazine tube - 12 gauge.  This is the most commonly produced version of the 500 series today.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader.jpg|none|500px|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader2.jpg|none|thumb|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects that emerge from the wrecked car following a police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[Mossberg_500_series_shotgun#Mossberg_590_Cruiser_.2F_590_Compact_Cruiser|Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]] with door-breaching muzzle-brake.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossberg590CompactCruiserBreach.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 590 &amp;quot;Compact Cruiser&amp;quot; with door breaching brake - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Mossberg590.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect fires a Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser. Note door-breaching muzzle brake.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 Wingmaster==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Remington 870]] Wingmaster shotgun is briefly seen in episode 1 in the house Rick stops at, Rick also has one in his bag of guns which ends up with Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in episode 4 who uses it on the zombies attacking the camp.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870Fieldgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Field Gun with raised barrel ribbing and 28&amp;quot; barrel - 12 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead SemiautoShotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is using a [[Remington 870]] with a synthetic stock from Rick's bag of guns in episode 4 during the standoff and on the walker's siege on the survivor camp. He appears to be carrying it still in episode 5 as the group make their way to the CDC. Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) also carries a walnut-stock Remington 870 during the &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; with the Vatos in episode four. He still carries it in episodes 5 and 6, along with his crossbow.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead870ep04DD.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Daryl Dixon with Remington 870 (Episode 4).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870Daryl.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Close-up of Daryl's Remington.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump Compact==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) appears to be using a [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact with a wood stock for the remainder of episode 4 to replace the Mossberg he gave to Guillermo. He fires it in the camp during the attack and then carries it as well throughout episodes 5 and 6.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Photo_pardnerpump_youth.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|H&amp;amp;R Pardner Pump Compact - 20 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDPardner.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Pardner, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) is seen firing a [[Winchester Model 70]] bolt-action rifle atop a building at walkers in Episode 2. He also uses the rifle to rifle-butt T-Dog in a disagreement before Rick intervenes. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Merle ([[Michael Rooker]]) aims his rifle on a rooftop (Episode 2).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle'sRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger M77 Hawkeye==&lt;br /&gt;
Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) carries a what appears to be a Ruger M77 Hawkeye with a scope, he is seen with it in every episode usually slung over his back as he keeps watch over camp. Dale fires it on the walkers in episode 4 during the attack and carries it to the CDC. In Episode 6 it looks as if T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is carrying the rifle as the group flees the CDC and even fires it at least once.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rugerm77hawky.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ruger M77 Hawkeye rifle with scope - .270 Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingd6cards1072110.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) poses with his rifle in a promotional image, note the good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadRifleep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Dale aims his Ruger M77 in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 700 BDL==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode 1, a scoped [[Remington Model 700|Remington 700 BDL]] is given to Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) by Rick Grimes from the police station arsenal. Morgan uses it to brush up on his marksmanship skills from the second story window of his hideout. To note when he is setting up to kill his wife (yet he is unable to bring himself to do so.) He takes an I.D. Photo and sets it up like a hide sight giving us a possibility of being a sniper in the past.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington_700_BDL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 700 BDL rifle with no iron sights and scope - .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Remington700.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Morgan-Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Automatic Rifle Safari==&lt;br /&gt;
A scoped [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]] is briefly seen being used by T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) during the standoff in episode 4 with the gangsters in Atlanta.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Browning BAR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mk II Safari Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|T-Dog with his Safari.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|As T-Dog aims his Safari during the standoff, we get a good look at the stock of the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Assault Rifles =&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1==&lt;br /&gt;
[[M4A1]] assault rifles can be seen abandoned with several dead soldiers and other military personnel around the CDC Headquarters in episode 5. It is seen in the opening sequence of Episode 6 when Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people inside the hospital. An M4A1 is also carried by Dr. Edwin Jenner ([[Noah Emmerich]]) later in the same episode when he first confronts the group he allowed inside.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier with an M4 during the hospital flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same soldier gets grabbed behind by a zombie, which causes him to wildly empty his magazine into his fellow soldiers. Note the enlarged muzzle on the rifle, indicating it is a flashpaper [[&amp;quot;Non_Guns&amp;quot;#M16A2|Non Gun]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dr. Jenner with an M4A1 fitted with an Aimpoint Sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the handguard of Jenner's M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Machine Guns =&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning M2HB==&lt;br /&gt;
A fake [[Browning M2HB]] is seen mounted atop a British Chieftain tank presumably standing in for an M1 Abrams, in which Grimes takes refuge. M2HBs are also seen on Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopters and on a IAV Stryker. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The fake M2HB is visible on the hatch, with a real M2HB in the foreground. As seems common for Chieftains standing in for other tanks, the thermal sleeve has been removed from the L11A5 L/55 120mm rifled cannon. This appears to be a Mark 11 tank, mounting the &amp;quot;Stillbrew&amp;quot; bolt-on armour package for the driver's position and turret, and minus the .50 cal coaxial ranging machine gun and the large infrared searchlight box on the left hand side of the turret.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the mounting; note that the mounting is designed for the L7 GPMG, an FN MAG derivative, and the fake M2 simply sits on top of it. Compare to the real M2 in the foreground of the shot above.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==DShK==&lt;br /&gt;
Outside of the CDC, a [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen rested against sandbags. Likely a mocked-up Browning M2.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Russian DShKM on Tripod - 12.7x108mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD1.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Other Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M67 Hand Grenade (M69 Training version)==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes an [[M67 hand grenade|M69 Hand Grenade]] (The inert training version of the live M67 grenade) from a tank and stores it in his pocket. It can be noted as an M69 not only by the inherent likelihood of it being so but also because it is seen in some shots with a bit of the blue paint showing through the over painted OD green color. [[Image:M67.jpg‎|thumb|none|200px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade. The real live version has a more brownish color and has painted factory markings on the body.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_grenade.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Horton Scout Crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
A Horton Scout HD 125 Crossbow is used by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) as his weapon of choice. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P3942065p275w.jpg|none|thumb|300px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Twd_crossbow.jpg‎|none|thumb|400px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rick's Bag of Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) ransacked his police station armory in episode one and throughout the first season is seen with a bag of guns from what he cleared out there which throughout the season ends up in the hands and used by fellow survivors in the group or himself, or given away. Inside the bag up to episode 4 is six shotguns, two high-powered rifles, a dozen handguns, and seven hundred rounds of ammunition, assorted. So far the current count from the bag is [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact, [[Mossberg 500]], [[Mossberg 500 Persuader]], two [[Remington 870]]s, [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]], [[Remington 700]], [[Glock 17]] (possibly more then one), [[SIG-Sauer P226]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub-nose, and a [[Colt Trooper]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem1187.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Rick carries his bag of ransacked police station guns on horseback to Atlanta in the Pilot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the television series ''The Walking Dead'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Walking Dead'' (2010 - ????)]]&lt;br /&gt;
''The Walking Dead'' is a television series airing on AMC that chronicles the actions of County Sheriff's Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he leads a band of survivors after a pandemic has turned the population into zombies. The series was adapted for television by Frank Darabont (''[[The Shawshank Redemption]]'') from the Image comic book series. &lt;br /&gt;
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=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt Python==&lt;br /&gt;
Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) carries a six-inch barreled [[Colt Python]] .357 Magnum revolver as his duty sidearm in the series. He so far has used it the most in the pilot episode but has carried it through every episode so far and has fired in at least twice since, once in the attack in episode 4 as well as drawn it multiple times. He also briefly wields it in episode 5. Rick once again fires it as the group flee the CDC in Episode 6. Of note is that when Grimes fires the gun in a very tight, enclosed space (in this case, inside a tank), it actually severely disorients him and hurts his hearing, unlike most movies or shows that have people firing guns indoors or in other enclosed spaces without being fazed.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Python6in.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt Python with 6&amp;quot; Barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] into Hershel's barn.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdead11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] sidearm at a threat.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonFront.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Grimes wields his Colt Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonAltAngle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes aims his Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadGrimesPythonrp01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Python on the foreground, and Shane on the background with his Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPython.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes wields his Python as the other deputies wield [[Glock 17]]s]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPyhonFence.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick holds the Python on Daryl Dixon. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep5.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes holds the Python on Daryl Dixon in episode 5. (It seems that this is becoming a habit.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Glock 17]] was one of the sidearms of the police in the first episode. One of the deputies was told by Grimes to have a round chambered and also (incorrectly) to make sure the safety was off. A Glock 17 is also taken by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) from Rick's gun bag to confront the Vatos in episode 4. Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) carries one as well as his duty sidearm, and is seen carrying it during the end of episode four, though he never fires it until Episode 6 when they are fleeing the CDC headquarters when he takes a shot on a zombie as they make a break for the vehicles. It can also be seen in Shane's hands in the opening flashback of episode 6 in the hospital. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A Generation 3 Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|T-Dog with a Glock 17 in a Season 2 Promotional still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Glock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A deputy aims his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17holsteredep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane keeps the Glock 17 holstered on his belt. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17ep04DD.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Daryl loads up a Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDG17ep6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with his Glock in episode 6's flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDGlock17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane takes a shot at a zombie (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P228==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the first episode uses what appears to be a two-tone [[SIG-Sauer P228]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Two_Tone_Sig_Sauer_P228.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P228 with Two-Tone finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-SIG.P228-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P228 at police.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP228.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The criminal fires the P228.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P226==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode four, Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) handles a black [[SIG-Sauer P226]] as he, Daryl, and T-Dog load up from the bag of guns as they prepare to confront the Vatos. It appears he may even have it tucked in the back of his belt during the confrontation later at the small of his back in addition to the Colt Python in his holster. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) picks up a SIG-Sauer P226 from the gun bag.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick inspects the SIG P226.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[M1911_pistol_series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] to wound Rick before being killed himself by Shane.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The thug fires at Rick and the other officer with his M1911A1.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Hi-Power==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) carries a chrome [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistol and uses it to threaten fellow group members in the second episode. The weapon is taken forcefully, then used by Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he and Glenn make their way to the truck.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SilverchromeHP.JPG|thumb|none|380px|FN Browning Hi-Power with chrome finish and adjustable sights - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadHPMearle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) holds the Hi-Power on T-Dog.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningHiPower.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) holds the Hi-Power to Dixon's ([[Michael Rooker]]) head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes a [[Beretta 92FS]] (standing in for a U.S. Military-issue M9) from a dead soldier inside a tank, identifying it as a Beretta with 15 rounds. He fires it until dry then stores it in Glen's Backpack. In the opening flashback of Episode 6, Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people with the Beretta in the hospital Rick is laying comatose in during the initial outbreak.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the soldiers in the hospital flashback in episode 6 uses a Non Gun Beretta 92FS when he's finishing off the bodies with a shot to the head. It appears to be used by both Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) &amp;amp; Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in Season 2. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Rick-Beretta-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rick-beretta.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ng_pistol_beretta92_blk.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92F Non Gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDNonGunBeretta.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier uses a flashpaper Beretta on the bodies. ''This was propably done for the safety of the extras who play the bodies, since the gun fires several times near them. Also, it's appearance is relatively brief, so there propably wasn't a need for a real blank firearm.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) carries a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913#Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;]] in the second episode. She later hands the pistol to Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) for his own protection when he and Rick make their way to the escape van, he does not fire it in the escape though. Andrea uses it in episode 5 to put her sister Amy down after she comes back as a walker.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W Model 3913.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot; - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Andrea points the S&amp;amp;W 3913 at Rick Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The S&amp;amp;W 3913 from another angle. Note the safety is on. Later Rick Grimes gives Andrea a brief lesson on handling the gun and instructs her to take the safety off before firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadLadySmith.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Andrea pulls the Ladysmith on Rick, and quips: '''I know how the safety works''', referring to when Rick corrected her on it. (Episode 5)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stainless steel Taurus Model 85==&lt;br /&gt;
A stainless [[Taurus Model 85]] is used by Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) in the pilot episode. It has a 5-shot cylinder but is not of the S&amp;amp;W J-frame series. The unique curved ejector shroud on a Taurus Model 85 is barely noticeble in the photos below. Most likely if it is not a [[Taurus Model 85]], it could possibly be a [[Ruger SP101]]. More in the [[Talk:Walking Dead (TV Series), The|Discussion]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Taurus85.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Taurus Model 85 (classic Model) in Blued Finish - .38 Spl.  Note the shape of the ejector shroud is like the one Morgan uses. The one in the show is a nickle version.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt Trooper==&lt;br /&gt;
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In episode 5 just before the group leaves for the CDC Headquarters, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) gives Morales ([[Juan Gabriel Pareja]]) what appears to be a [[Colt Trooper]] in .357 Magnum from the bag of guns when Morales and his family decide to leave the group to find their family in Birmingham. You can also hear Shane say &amp;quot;.357?&amp;quot; as well when Rick is getting it out of the bag.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image: Colt Trooper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Trooper - .357 magnum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Morales-Colt Trooper.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10==&lt;br /&gt;
A snub nose [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or two can be seen in the hands of the Vatos in episode 4 during the standoff in Atlanta, specifically Felipe ([[Noel G.]]). In episode 5, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) offers a Model 10 from the bag of guns to Jim who has been bitten to end himself, he declines.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub can be seen in the hands of Felipe ([[Noel G.]]) on the right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDDetSpecial.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Felipe holds a Model 10 snub nose.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDCDS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes offers Jim a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 as they leave him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15==&lt;br /&gt;
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What appears to be a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] is seen in the hands of one of Guillermo's right hand men, Jorge ([[James Gonzaba]]) in Episode 4 during the standoff.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] can possibly be seen in the hands of the gang member on the left.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unidentified Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
During the standoff in episode four, Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) has a handgun in the front of his waistband that is definitely not the Glock he loaded earlier on which is in the back of his waistband at the small of his back, having an external hammer, but the pistol seems to also have a different rear sight than the Sig featured in the earlier loading scene.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband1.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband2.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-size [[Mossberg 590]] is first seen being used by Rick's partner, Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) during the shootout with the suspects in the overturned vehicle in the pilot episode just before Rick is wounded in the line of duty. The shotgun is fitted with an extended magazine tube, heat-shield, collapsible KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock with pistol grip. It appears again later in Shane's possession at the survivor camp and can notably be seen being used by Shane on the attacking Walkers at the camp in episode 4. He also uses (aims) it in episode 5, when he and Rick Grimes patrol the woods. Shane also loses his cool when trapped in the CDC Headquarters in Episode 6 and uses it to blow up some computer monitors but later uses it in an attempt to bust the glass to escape which fails. Once outside, Shane uses the Mossberg to blast down walkers as the group runs to the vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg 590.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 590 with extended magazine tube and heat shield - 12 gauge. The Military version has a subdued matte finish, either matte blued or parkerized. Version in show has a KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The_walking_dead_amc_cast_photo_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image.‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-1-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane with Mossberg 590 fitted with KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Side.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Opposite angle of the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Stock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The Mossberg 590 lays on the ground as Shane checks Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadShaneMossberg.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg in episode 5, when he is patrolling the woods with Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDShaneMossberg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane fires his shotgun out of frustration (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-3-Lori-Carl-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Shane holding shotgun at the survivor's camp.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) can first be seen using a 12 Gauge [[Mossberg 500]] in episode 4 of the series. He has it in his bag of guns from the police station that he gets back in episode 4, and uses this shotgun from the bag in the standoff with the Vatos. He ends up giving it to their leader, Guillermo ([[Neil Brown Jr.]]) after the Vatos turn out to be doing a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with high-capacity magazine tube - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadep04870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with a Mossberg 500 during the standoff in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Persuader==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) is using the persuader version of the [[Mossberg 500]] shotgun from Rick's bag of guns. He is seen with it in episode 4 carrying it and then uses it on the siege on the camp by the walkers. In episode 5 it appears he still has it and carries it as the group make their way to the CDC Headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 &amp;quot;Persuader&amp;quot; with standard five-shot magazine tube - 12 gauge.  This is the most commonly produced version of the 500 series today.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader.jpg|none|500px|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader2.jpg|none|thumb|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects that emerge from the wrecked car following a police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[Mossberg_500_series_shotgun#Mossberg_590_Cruiser_.2F_590_Compact_Cruiser|Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]] with door-breaching muzzle-brake.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossberg590CompactCruiserBreach.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 590 &amp;quot;Compact Cruiser&amp;quot; with door breaching brake - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Mossberg590.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect fires a Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser. Note door-breaching muzzle brake.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 Wingmaster==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Remington 870]] Wingmaster shotgun is briefly seen in episode 1 in the house Rick stops at, Rick also has one in his bag of guns which ends up with Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in episode 4 who uses it on the zombies attacking the camp.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870Fieldgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Field Gun with raised barrel ribbing and 28&amp;quot; barrel - 12 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is using a [[Remington 870]] with a synthetic stock from Rick's bag of guns in episode 4 during the standoff and on the walker's siege on the survivor camp. He appears to be carrying it still in episode 5 as the group make their way to the CDC. Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) also carries a walnut-stock Remington 870 during the &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; with the Vatos in episode four. He still carries it in episodes 5 and 6, along with his crossbow.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead870ep04DD.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Daryl Dixon with Remington 870 (Episode 4).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870Daryl.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Close-up of Daryl's Remington.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump Compact==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) appears to be using a [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact with a wood stock for the remainder of episode 4 to replace the Mossberg he gave to Guillermo. He fires it in the camp during the attack and then carries it as well throughout episodes 5 and 6.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Photo_pardnerpump_youth.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|H&amp;amp;R Pardner Pump Compact - 20 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Pardner, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) is seen firing a [[Winchester Model 70]] bolt-action rifle atop a building at walkers in Episode 2. He also uses the rifle to rifle-butt T-Dog in a disagreement before Rick intervenes. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Merle ([[Michael Rooker]]) aims his rifle on a rooftop (Episode 2).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle'sRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger M77 Hawkeye==&lt;br /&gt;
Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) carries a what appears to be a Ruger M77 Hawkeye with a scope, he is seen with it in every episode usually slung over his back as he keeps watch over camp. Dale fires it on the walkers in episode 4 during the attack and carries it to the CDC. In Episode 6 it looks as if T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is carrying the rifle as the group flees the CDC and even fires it at least once.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rugerm77hawky.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ruger M77 Hawkeye rifle with scope - .270 Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingd6cards1072110.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) poses with his rifle in a promotional image, note the good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadRifleep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Dale aims his Ruger M77 in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 700 BDL==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode 1, a scoped [[Remington Model 700|Remington 700 BDL]] is given to Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) by Rick Grimes from the police station arsenal. Morgan uses it to brush up on his marksmanship skills from the second story window of his hideout. To note when he is setting up to kill his wife (yet he is unable to bring himself to do so.) He takes an I.D. Photo and sets it up like a hide sight giving us a possibility of being a sniper in the past.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington_700_BDL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 700 BDL rifle with no iron sights and scope - .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Remington700.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Morgan-Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Automatic Rifle Safari==&lt;br /&gt;
A scoped [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]] is briefly seen being used by T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) during the standoff in episode 4 with the gangsters in Atlanta.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Browning BAR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mk II Safari Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|T-Dog with his Safari.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|As T-Dog aims his Safari during the standoff, we get a good look at the stock of the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Assault Rifles =&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1==&lt;br /&gt;
[[M4A1]] assault rifles can be seen abandoned with several dead soldiers and other military personnel around the CDC Headquarters in episode 5. It is seen in the opening sequence of Episode 6 when Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people inside the hospital. An M4A1 is also carried by Dr. Edwin Jenner ([[Noah Emmerich]]) later in the same episode when he first confronts the group he allowed inside.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier with an M4 during the hospital flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same soldier gets grabbed behind by a zombie, which causes him to wildly empty his magazine into his fellow soldiers. Note the enlarged muzzle on the rifle, indicating it is a flashpaper [[&amp;quot;Non_Guns&amp;quot;#M16A2|Non Gun]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dr. Jenner with an M4A1 fitted with an Aimpoint Sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the handguard of Jenner's M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Machine Guns =&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning M2HB==&lt;br /&gt;
A fake [[Browning M2HB]] is seen mounted atop a British Chieftain tank presumably standing in for an M1 Abrams, in which Grimes takes refuge. M2HBs are also seen on Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopters and on a IAV Stryker. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The fake M2HB is visible on the hatch, with a real M2HB in the foreground. As seems common for Chieftains standing in for other tanks, the thermal sleeve has been removed from the L11A5 L/55 120mm rifled cannon. This appears to be a Mark 11 tank, mounting the &amp;quot;Stillbrew&amp;quot; bolt-on armour package for the driver's position and turret, and minus the .50 cal coaxial ranging machine gun and the large infrared searchlight box on the left hand side of the turret.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the mounting; note that the mounting is designed for the L7 GPMG, an FN MAG derivative, and the fake M2 simply sits on top of it. Compare to the real M2 in the foreground of the shot above.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==DShK==&lt;br /&gt;
Outside of the CDC, a [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen rested against sandbags. Likely a mocked-up Browning M2.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Russian DShKM on Tripod - 12.7x108mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Other Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M67 Hand Grenade (M69 Training version)==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes an [[M67 hand grenade|M69 Hand Grenade]] (The inert training version of the live M67 grenade) from a tank and stores it in his pocket. It can be noted as an M69 not only by the inherent likelihood of it being so but also because it is seen in some shots with a bit of the blue paint showing through the over painted OD green color. [[Image:M67.jpg‎|thumb|none|200px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade. The real live version has a more brownish color and has painted factory markings on the body.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_grenade.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Horton Scout Crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
A Horton Scout HD 125 Crossbow is used by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) as his weapon of choice. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P3942065p275w.jpg|none|thumb|300px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Twd_crossbow.jpg‎|none|thumb|400px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rick's Bag of Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) ransacked his police station armory in episode one and throughout the first season is seen with a bag of guns from what he cleared out there which throughout the season ends up in the hands and used by fellow survivors in the group or himself, or given away. Inside the bag up to episode 4 is six shotguns, two high-powered rifles, a dozen handguns, and seven hundred rounds of ammunition, assorted. So far the current count from the bag is [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact, [[Mossberg 500]], [[Mossberg 500 Persuader]], two [[Remington 870]]s, [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]], [[Remington 700]], [[Glock 17]] (possibly more then one), [[SIG-Sauer P226]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub-nose, and a [[Colt Trooper]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem1187.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Rick carries his bag of ransacked police station guns on horseback to Atlanta in the Pilot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the television series ''The Walking Dead'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Walking Dead'' (2010 - ????)]]&lt;br /&gt;
''The Walking Dead'' is a television series airing on AMC that chronicles the actions of County Sheriff's Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he leads a band of survivors after a pandemic has turned the population into zombies. The series was adapted for television by Frank Darabont (''[[The Shawshank Redemption]]'') from the Image comic book series. &lt;br /&gt;
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=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt Python==&lt;br /&gt;
Deputy Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) carries a six-inch barreled [[Colt Python]] .357 Magnum revolver as his duty sidearm in the series. He so far has used it the most in the pilot episode but has carried it through every episode so far and has fired in at least twice since, once in the attack in episode 4 as well as drawn it multiple times. He also briefly wields it in episode 5. Rick once again fires it as the group flee the CDC in Episode 6. Of note is that when Grimes fires the gun in a very tight, enclosed space (in this case, inside a tank), it actually severely disorients him and hurts his hearing, unlike most movies or shows that have people firing guns indoors or in other enclosed spaces without being fazed.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Python6in.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt Python with 6&amp;quot; Barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdead11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Rick Grimes([[Andrew Lincoln]])aims his [[Colt Python]] sidearm at a threat.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonFront.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Deputy Grimes wields his Colt Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPythonAltAngle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes aims his Python.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadGrimesPythonrp01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Python on the foreground, and Shane on the background with his Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPython.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes wields his Python as the other deputies wield [[Glock 17]]s]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-ColtPyhonFence.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick holds the Python on Daryl Dixon. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadPythonep5.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Grimes holds the Python on Daryl Dixon in episode 5. (It seems that this is becoming a habit.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Glock 17]] was one of the sidearms of the police in the first episode. One of the deputies was told by Grimes to have a round chambered and also (incorrectly) to make sure the safety was off. A Glock 17 is also taken by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) from Rick's gun bag to confront the Vatos in episode 4. Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) carries one as well as his duty sidearm, and is seen carrying it during the end of episode four, though he never fires it until Episode 6 when they are fleeing the CDC headquarters when he takes a shot on a zombie as they make a break for the vehicles. It can also be seen in Shane's hands in the opening flashback of episode 6 in the hospital. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A Generation 3 Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The-walking-dead-season-2-cast-6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|T-Dog with a Glock 17 in a Season 2 Promotional still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Glock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A deputy aims his Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17holsteredep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane keeps the Glock 17 holstered on his belt. (Episode 4)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadG17ep04DD.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Daryl loads up a Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDG17ep6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with his Glock in episode 6's flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDGlock17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane takes a shot at a zombie (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P228==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the first episode uses what appears to be a two-tone [[SIG-Sauer P228]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Two_Tone_Sig_Sauer_P228.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P228 with Two-Tone finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-SIG.P228-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P228 at police.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP228.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The criminal fires the P228.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P226==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode four, Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) handles a black [[SIG-Sauer P226]] as he, Daryl, and T-Dog load up from the bag of guns as they prepare to confront the Vatos. It appears he may even have it tucked in the back of his belt during the confrontation later at the small of his back in addition to the Colt Python in his holster. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) picks up a SIG-Sauer P226 from the gun bag.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Rick inspects the SIG P226.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects from the police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[M1911_pistol_series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] to wound Rick before being killed himself by Shane.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The thug fires at Rick and the other officer with his M1911A1.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Hi-Power==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) carries a chrome [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistol and uses it to threaten fellow group members in the second episode. The weapon is taken forcefully, then used by Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) as he and Glenn make their way to the truck.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SilverchromeHP.JPG|thumb|none|380px|FN Browning Hi-Power with chrome finish and adjustable sights - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadHPMearle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) holds the Hi-Power on T-Dog.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningHiPower.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) holds the Hi-Power to Dixon's ([[Michael Rooker]]) head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes a [[Beretta 92FS]] (standing in for a U.S. Military-issue M9) from a dead soldier inside a tank, identifying it as a Beretta with 15 rounds. He fires it until dry then stores it in Glen's Backpack. In the opening flashback of Episode 6, Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people with the Beretta in the hospital Rick is laying comatose in during the initial outbreak.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the soldiers in the hospital flashback in episode 6 uses a Non Gun Beretta 92FS when he's finishing off the bodies with a shot to the head. It appears to be used by both Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) &amp;amp; Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in Season 2. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Rick-Beretta-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rick-beretta.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ng_pistol_beretta92_blk.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92F Non Gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDNonGunBeretta.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier uses a flashpaper Beretta on the bodies. ''This was propably done for the safety of the extras who play the bodies, since the gun fires several times near them. Also, it's appearance is relatively brief, so there propably wasn't a need for a real blank firearm.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Andrea ([[Laurie Holden]]) carries a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913#Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot;]] in the second episode. She later hands the pistol to Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) for his own protection when he and Rick make their way to the escape van, he does not fire it in the escape though. Andrea uses it in episode 5 to put her sister Amy down after she comes back as a walker.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W Model 3913.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 3913 &amp;quot;Ladysmith&amp;quot; - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Andrea points the S&amp;amp;W 3913 at Rick Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_sw3913-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The S&amp;amp;W 3913 from another angle. Note the safety is on. Later Rick Grimes gives Andrea a brief lesson on handling the gun and instructs her to take the safety off before firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadLadySmith.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Andrea pulls the Ladysmith on Rick, and quips: '''I know how the safety works''', referring to when Rick corrected her on it. (Episode 5)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stainless steel Taurus Model 85==&lt;br /&gt;
A stainless [[Taurus Model 85]] is used by Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) in the pilot episode. It has a 5-shot cylinder but is not of the S&amp;amp;W J-frame series. The unique curved ejector shroud on a Taurus Model 85 is barely noticeble in the photos below. Most likely if it is not a [[Taurus Model 85]], it could possibly be a [[Ruger SP101]]. More in the [[Talk:Walking Dead (TV Series), The|Discussion]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Taurus85.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Taurus Model 85 (classic Model) in Blued Finish - .38 Spl.  Note the shape of the ejector shroud is like the one Morgan uses. The one in the show is a nickle version.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walking.Dead-Morgan-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt Trooper==&lt;br /&gt;
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In episode 5 just before the group leaves for the CDC Headquarters, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) gives Morales ([[Juan Gabriel Pareja]]) what appears to be a [[Colt Trooper]] in .357 Magnum from the bag of guns when Morales and his family decide to leave the group to find their family in Birmingham. You can also hear Shane say &amp;quot;.357?&amp;quot; as well when Rick is getting it out of the bag.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image: Colt Trooper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Trooper - .357 magnum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Morales-Colt Trooper.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10==&lt;br /&gt;
A snub nose [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] or two can be seen in the hands of the Vatos in episode 4 during the standoff in Atlanta, specifically Felipe ([[Noel G.]]). In episode 5, Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) offers a Model 10 from the bag of guns to Jim who has been bitten to end himself, he declines.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub can be seen in the hands of Felipe ([[Noel G.]]) on the right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDDetSpecial.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Felipe holds a Model 10 snub nose.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDCDS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Grimes offers Jim a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10 as they leave him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15==&lt;br /&gt;
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What appears to be a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] is seen in the hands of one of Guillermo's right hand men, Jorge ([[James Gonzaba]]) in Episode 4 during the standoff.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingdeadrevolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px| A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] can possibly be seen in the hands of the gang member on the left.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unidentified Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
During the standoff in episode four, Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) has a handgun in the front of his waistband that is definitely not the Glock he loaded earlier on which is in the back of his waistband at the small of his back, having an external hammer, but the pistol seems to also have a different rear sight than the Sig featured in the earlier loading scene.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband1.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Daryl unknown pistol front waistband2.jpg|none|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-size [[Mossberg 590]] is first seen being used by Rick's partner, Shane Walsh ([[Jon Bernthal]]) during the shootout with the suspects in the overturned vehicle in the pilot episode just before Rick is wounded in the line of duty. The shotgun is fitted with an extended magazine tube, heat-shield, collapsible KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock with pistol grip. It appears again later in Shane's possession at the survivor camp and can notably be seen being used by Shane on the attacking Walkers at the camp in episode 4. He also uses (aims) it in episode 5, when he and Rick Grimes patrol the woods. Shane also loses his cool when trapped in the CDC Headquarters in Episode 6 and uses it to blow up some computer monitors but later uses it in an attempt to bust the glass to escape which fails. Once outside, Shane uses the Mossberg to blast down walkers as the group runs to the vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg 590.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 590 with extended magazine tube and heat shield - 12 gauge. The Military version has a subdued matte finish, either matte blued or parkerized. Version in show has a KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The_walking_dead_amc_cast_photo_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane with the Mossberg 590 in a promotional image.‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-1-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane with Mossberg 590 fitted with KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Side.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Opposite angle of the Mossberg.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem870Stock.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The Mossberg 590 lays on the ground as Shane checks Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadShaneMossberg.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Shane aims the Mossberg in episode 5, when he is patrolling the woods with Grimes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDShaneMossberg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shane fires his shotgun out of frustration (Episode 6).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-3-Lori-Carl-Shane-760.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Shane holding shotgun at the survivor's camp.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) can first be seen using a 12 Gauge [[Mossberg 500]] in episode 4 of the series. He has it in his bag of guns from the police station that he gets back in episode 4, and uses this shotgun from the bag in the standoff with the Vatos. He ends up giving it to their leader, Guillermo ([[Neil Brown Jr.]]) after the Vatos turn out to be doing a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with high-capacity magazine tube - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadep04870.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with a Mossberg 500 during the standoff in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Persuader==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears Glenn ([[Steven Yeun]]) is using the persuader version of the [[Mossberg 500]] shotgun from Rick's bag of guns. He is seen with it in episode 4 carrying it and then uses it on the siege on the camp by the walkers. In episode 5 it appears he still has it and carries it as the group make their way to the CDC Headquarters.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 &amp;quot;Persuader&amp;quot; with standard five-shot magazine tube - 12 gauge.  This is the most commonly produced version of the 500 series today.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader.jpg|none|500px|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glenn-Mossberg 500 Persuader2.jpg|none|thumb|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the suspects that emerge from the wrecked car following a police chase at the beginning of the pilot episode uses a [[Mossberg_500_series_shotgun#Mossberg_590_Cruiser_.2F_590_Compact_Cruiser|Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]] with door-breaching muzzle-brake.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossberg590CompactCruiserBreach.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 590 &amp;quot;Compact Cruiser&amp;quot; with door breaching brake - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Mossberg590.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect fires a Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser. Note door-breaching muzzle brake.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 Wingmaster==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Remington 870]] Wingmaster shotgun is briefly seen in episode 1 in the house Rick stops at, Rick also has one in his bag of guns which ends up with Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) in episode 4 who uses it on the zombies attacking the camp.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870Fieldgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Field Gun with raised barrel ribbing and 28&amp;quot; barrel - 12 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead SemiautoShotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
It appears T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is using a [[Remington 870]] with a synthetic stock from Rick's bag of guns in episode 4 during the standoff and on the walker's siege on the survivor camp. He appears to be carrying it still in episode 5 as the group make their way to the CDC. Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) also carries a walnut-stock Remington 870 during the &amp;quot;switch&amp;quot; with the Vatos in episode four. He still carries it in episodes 5 and 6, along with his crossbow.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead870ep04DD.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Daryl Dixon with Remington 870 (Episode 4).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870Daryl.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Close-up of Daryl's Remington.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:T-Dog-Remington 870 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump Compact==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) appears to be using a [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact with a wood stock for the remainder of episode 4 to replace the Mossberg he gave to Guillermo. He fires it in the camp during the attack and then carries it as well throughout episodes 5 and 6.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Photo_pardnerpump_youth.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|H&amp;amp;R Pardner Pump Compact - 20 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDPardner.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD870ep05.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Rick with his Pardner, when he and Shane patrol the woods (Episode 5).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Merle Dixon ([[Michael Rooker]]) is seen firing a [[Winchester Model 70]] bolt-action rifle atop a building at walkers in Episode 2. He also uses the rifle to rifle-butt T-Dog in a disagreement before Rick intervenes. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Merle ([[Michael Rooker]]) aims his rifle on a rooftop (Episode 2).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDMerle'sRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger M77 Hawkeye==&lt;br /&gt;
Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) carries a what appears to be a Ruger M77 Hawkeye with a scope, he is seen with it in every episode usually slung over his back as he keeps watch over camp. Dale fires it on the walkers in episode 4 during the attack and carries it to the CDC. In Episode 6 it looks as if T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) is carrying the rifle as the group flees the CDC and even fires it at least once.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rugerm77hawky.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ruger M77 Hawkeye rifle with scope - .270 Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walkingd6cards1072110.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Dale ([[Jeffrey DeMunn]]) poses with his rifle in a promotional image, note the good trigger discipline.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDeadRifleep04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Dale aims his Ruger M77 in episode 4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 700 BDL==&lt;br /&gt;
In episode 1, a scoped [[Remington Model 700|Remington 700 BDL]] is given to Morgan Jones ([[Lennie James]]) by Rick Grimes from the police station arsenal. Morgan uses it to brush up on his marksmanship skills from the second story window of his hideout. To note when he is setting up to kill his wife (yet he is unable to bring himself to do so.) He takes an I.D. Photo and sets it up like a hide sight giving us a possibility of being a sniper in the past.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington_700_BDL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 700 BDL rifle with no iron sights and scope - .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-Remington700.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Morgan-Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning Automatic Rifle Safari==&lt;br /&gt;
A scoped [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]] is briefly seen being used by T-Dog ([[IronE Singleton]]) during the standoff in episode 4 with the gangsters in Atlanta.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Browning BAR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mk II Safari Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|T-Dog with his Safari.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDBAR2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|As T-Dog aims his Safari during the standoff, we get a good look at the stock of the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Assault Rifles =&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1==&lt;br /&gt;
[[M4A1]] assault rifles can be seen abandoned with several dead soldiers and other military personnel around the CDC Headquarters in episode 5. It is seen in the opening sequence of Episode 6 when Shane witnesses soldiers executing infected people inside the hospital. An M4A1 is also carried by Dr. Edwin Jenner ([[Noah Emmerich]]) later in the same episode when he first confronts the group he allowed inside.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier with an M4 during the hospital flashback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDSoldierM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same soldier gets grabbed behind by a zombie, which causes him to wildly empty his magazine into his fellow soldiers. Note the enlarged muzzle on the rifle, indicating it is a flashpaper [[&amp;quot;Non_Guns&amp;quot;#M16A2|Non Gun]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dr. Jenner with an M4A1 fitted with an Aimpoint Sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WDM4_2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close-up of the handguard of Jenner's M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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= Machine Guns =&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning M2HB==&lt;br /&gt;
A fake [[Browning M2HB]] is seen mounted atop a British Chieftain tank presumably standing in for an M1 Abrams, in which Grimes takes refuge. M2HBs are also seen on Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopters and on a IAV Stryker. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The fake M2HB is visible on the hatch, with a real M2HB in the foreground. As seems common for Chieftains standing in for other tanks, the thermal sleeve has been removed from the L11A5 L/55 120mm rifled cannon. This appears to be a Mark 11 tank, mounting the &amp;quot;Stillbrew&amp;quot; bolt-on armour package for the driver's position and turret, and minus the .50 cal coaxial ranging machine gun and the large infrared searchlight box on the left hand side of the turret.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalkingDead-BrowningM2HB 02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the mounting; note that the mounting is designed for the L7 GPMG, an FN MAG derivative, and the fake M2 simply sits on top of it. Compare to the real M2 in the foreground of the shot above.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==DShK==&lt;br /&gt;
Outside of the CDC, a [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen rested against sandbags. Likely a mocked-up Browning M2.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Russian DShKM on Tripod - 12.7x108mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD1.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Other Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M67 Hand Grenade (M69 Training version)==&lt;br /&gt;
Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) takes an [[M67 hand grenade|M69 Hand Grenade]] (The inert training version of the live M67 grenade) from a tank and stores it in his pocket. It can be noted as an M69 not only by the inherent likelihood of it being so but also because it is seen in some shots with a bit of the blue paint showing through the over painted OD green color. [[Image:M67.jpg‎|thumb|none|200px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade. The real live version has a more brownish color and has painted factory markings on the body.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WD_S1_E2_grenade.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Horton Scout Crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
A Horton Scout HD 125 Crossbow is used by Daryl Dixon ([[Norman Reedus]]) as his weapon of choice. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P3942065p275w.jpg|none|thumb|300px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Twd_crossbow.jpg‎|none|thumb|400px|Horton Scout HD 125]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rick's Bag of Guns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Rick ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) ransacked his police station armory in episode one and throughout the first season is seen with a bag of guns from what he cleared out there which throughout the season ends up in the hands and used by fellow survivors in the group or himself, or given away. Inside the bag up to episode 4 is six shotguns, two high-powered rifles, a dozen handguns, and seven hundred rounds of ammunition, assorted. So far the current count from the bag is [[Harrington &amp;amp; Richardson Pardner Pump]] Compact, [[Mossberg 500]], [[Mossberg 500 Persuader]], two [[Remington 870]]s, [[Browning Automatic Rifle Safari]], [[Remington 700]], [[Glock 17]] (possibly more then one), [[SIG-Sauer P226]], [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] snub-nose, and a [[Colt Trooper]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WalkingDead-Rem1187.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px| Rick carries his bag of ransacked police station guns on horseback to Atlanta in the Pilot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer (Played by Jim Beaver) along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in S4E13 &amp;quot;Showdown&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1311548830-screen shot 2011-07-24 at 6.51.07 pm.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:38snub1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Walt practicing killing Gus from a sitting position]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gale 528 poster.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse aiming the Beretta. Note this shot is blurry due to it focusing on his facial expression, rather than the firearm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Revolvers==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Episode-7-jesse-mike.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Givin to Jesse by Mike in S5E7]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:T1larg.breakingbad.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Mike with a unknown revolver in S5E7]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotgun=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Non Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Non Descript Pocket Pistol non gun==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Large breaking bad s2 blu-ray6t.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Used by a child to carry out a hit. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-11T21:31:59Z</updated>

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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer (Played by Jim Beaver) along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in S4E13 &amp;quot;Showdown&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1311548830-screen shot 2011-07-24 at 6.51.07 pm.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:38snub1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Walt practicing killing Gus from a sitting position]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gale 528 poster.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse aiming the Beretta. Note this shot is blurry due to it focusing on his facial expression, rather than the firearm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Episode-7-jesse-mike.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Givin to Jesse by Mike in S5E7]]&lt;br /&gt;
=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotgun=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Non Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Non Descript Pocket Pistol non gun==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Large breaking bad s2 blu-ray6t.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Used by a child to carry out a hit. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer (Played by Jim Beaver) along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in S4E13 &amp;quot;Showdown&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1311548830-screen shot 2011-07-24 at 6.51.07 pm.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:38snub1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Walt practicing killing Gus from a sitting position]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gale 528 poster.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse aiming the Beretta. Note this shot is blurry due to it focusing on his facial expression, rather than the firearm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotgun=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Non Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Non Descript Pocket Pistol non gun==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Large breaking bad s2 blu-ray6t.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Used by a child to carry out a hit. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer (Played by Jim Beaver) along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in S4E13 &amp;quot;Showdown&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gale 528 poster.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse aiming the Beretta. Note this shot is blurry due to it focusing on his facial expression, rather than the firearm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotgun=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Non Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Non Descript Pocket Pistol non gun==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Large breaking bad s2 blu-ray6t.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Used by a child to carry out a hit. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer (Played by Jim Beaver) along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in S4E13 &amp;quot;Showdown&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotgun=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Non Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Non Descript Pocket Pistol non gun==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Large breaking bad s2 blu-ray6t.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Used by a child to carry out a hit. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Crime]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Ruger LCR */&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer (Played by Jim Beaver) along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in S4E13 &amp;quot;Showdown&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotgun=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Television]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Drama]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Crime]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in S4E13 &amp;quot;Showdown&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Shotgun=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Ruger LCR */&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in Season 4, episode 13: &amp;quot;Showdown&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotgun=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Television]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Crime]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Theszurk3</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-11T20:30:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Ruger LCR */&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in the episode &amp;quot;Showdown&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotgun=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Television]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Drama]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Crime]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Theszurk3</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-11T20:28:56Z</updated>

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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode.  He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jesse with the Ruger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger KGP-161==&lt;br /&gt;
Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger LCR==&lt;br /&gt;
Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &amp;quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&amp;quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in the elevator in the Season Finale]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] &lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92AFS==&lt;br /&gt;
Jesse &amp;amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel memeber who wounds Mike.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23==&lt;br /&gt;
This pistol is used with a suppressor by Mike in the season 3 finale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Trigger guard distinguishes this pistol as a Mk 23 rather than a USP Tactical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'  It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BreakingBadM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the muzzle of Tuco's M4 as he holds it on Jesse and Walt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank with his M4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|An M4A1 as seen in &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be Mexican XR05s, Mexico's new military assult rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ithaca 37==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ithaca 37]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|An police officer approaches ''the Cousins'' hideout, season 3 episode 6]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=&amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; (Spainish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown Smith &amp;amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &amp;quot;Negro Y Azul&amp;quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spainish. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none| Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==AK-47==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none| The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &amp;quot;That blue&amp;quot;. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|left| The UMP is next to the M4. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|left|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Crime]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:King of Thorn</title>
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		<updated>2011-08-26T04:15:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: Created page with &amp;quot;== M&amp;amp;P? ==  Anyone else notice when the glock was shown far away, it look alot more like an M&amp;amp;P45 than a glock? Then in the close ups it was more glock like&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== M&amp;amp;P? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone else notice when the glock was shown far away, it look alot more like an M&amp;amp;P45 than a glock? Then in the close ups it was more glock like&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Falling_Skies&amp;diff=445887</id>
		<title>Talk:Falling Skies</title>
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&lt;div&gt;== Hal's Revolver - Colt New Service. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the episode &amp;quot;What hides beneath&amp;quot; when Hal is in the Armory loading up, you can see him put a Colt New Service in his shoulder holster. You can tell by the placement of the little medallion on the grip.&lt;br /&gt;
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== EPISODE 6 - NEW GUNS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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After watching Episode 6, I'm looking to see if someone can pull screenshots from when Maggie gives Moonblood's character the 92fs Inox, and when Weaver kills the skitter with a Mossberg 590a1 Special Purpose 8-shot with ghost ring sites. Please upload and I will add to the page. Thanks --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 17:28, 18 July 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== NOTES ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the web comics the sidearm of Thomas Mason is a .45 Para-Ordnance Nite-Tac.[[User:Fitz175|Fitz175]] 07:44, 30 April 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Somebody, Anthony I think, has a Berreta 92 INOX.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 09:33, 20 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Maggie ([[Sarah Carter]]) has a Colt Model 733 or 933, couldn't make out the handle.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:25, 20 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Which one was she?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 20:10, 20 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
It looks like an M733--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 20:20, 20 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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There was also a PKM and an RPK used by the &amp;quot;good guys&amp;quot; against the outlaws at the end.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:04, 21 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mason's Type 56-1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone know what Mason has on the stock of his T56-1? It looks like some sort of tape or something. I'm assuming it's to make it a bit more comfortable to fire from the shoulder. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:24, 23 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like duct tape to me. Adds a little pading to the meatl stock.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 08:34, 24 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The tape effectively turns the back of the stock into more of a oval butt plate rather than a hollow U shape. Unfortunately, this would also mean that it would be impossible to unfold/fold the stock with the magazine in place.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:45, 24 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I did think to myself that it would obstruct the folding of the stock. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:31, 24 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Clip vs. Mag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just watching it now and that was the first time I've seen someone get corrected on calling a magazine a clip in a film or TV programme ever. Nice little touch. So far this series has a lot of promise. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:29, 23 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maggie's 1911 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I caught a re-run of the premier episode and after getting a good look at it, I'm pretty sure that Maggie's 1911 is a Colt Gold Cup National match judging by the sights and slide serrations. [[User:ShootingLiberal|ShootingLiberal]] 02:14, 29 June 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That's what I thought at first, but then noted the Classic Bo-Mar sights. Used to own at NM that had the Colt slant-adjustables. Made the edit, and corrected Mason. Good catch on the Colt, ShootingLibera! --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 15:34, 9 July 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Logistical concerns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alien invasion basically throws the rules out the window I guess but why are Kalashnikov rifles, firing in full auto mind you, more abundant than AR-15 pattern rifles/carbines and other more common sporting and military surplus firearms? It's Boston; Colt and S&amp;amp;W are right down the road...&lt;br /&gt;
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:AKs are more rebellious, I guess. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:36, 8 July 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess. Wolverines. They were more prominent in the pilot so it could have been a budget thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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7.62mm round is a lot more powerful than a 5.56 so that could be one of the reasons. Also they're a lot more reliable and require less maintenance. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:59, 8 July 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aside from the main character, who uses either an AKM or Type 56, all of the other protagonists seems to use either 5.56mm rifles or 9mm SMGs.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:12, 8 July 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The screencaps don't illustrate my point too well but you're right, besides the main guy and one or two others it hasn't been fired all that much on screen though plenty of background guys pulling security duty have AKs. It seems to me that the main and secondary characters got the pick of the litter and the rest got whatever they had left available... &lt;br /&gt;
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I could just be nitpicking again, it's a great show so far&lt;br /&gt;
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I did do a little bit of nitpicking when discussing this about the full auto AKs. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:16, 9 July 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: Created page with &amp;quot;Not realy sure how to add pictures, but here the picture of the MP7 that &amp;quot;Four Eyes  http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:40d7ef1ba905ef42438ddf49af875be4.jpg#file&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Not realy sure how to add pictures, but here the picture of the MP7 that &amp;quot;Four Eyes&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Supernatural&amp;diff=417680</id>
		<title>Talk:Supernatural</title>
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		<updated>2011-05-09T17:03:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Supernatural: The Anime */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==STOP! putting  hyperlinks in the section titles==&lt;br /&gt;
Whoever did that is an idiot.  The rules specifically prohibit putting hyperlinks in the section titles, and yet, several anonymous users (IP addresses only) went through and hyperlinked nearly this entire page (which is now being changed BACK).  Knock it off.  If any more anonymous  users does something that goes against the written IMFDB rules again, they get ONE warning on their talk page, and if it happens again, even ONCE, they're banned.  Either READ the rules or go away.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Amen. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruby´s knife==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn´t ruby´s knife be on the page due its ability for killing demons and other creatures? Besides, can´t its blade be the lance of longinus?-the las one is a suposition due its power against demons-&lt;br /&gt;
(sorry because of my bad english, im not a native speaker)&lt;br /&gt;
::Nope, stupid idea, what is with foreign IMFDB members wanting to include all these 'non firearms' into the site.  Ridiculous MPM&lt;br /&gt;
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I wounder what would a be a good handgun for fighting paranormal threats. Rex095&lt;br /&gt;
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While I have no issue with displaying all weapons used, this is the Internet Movie '''Firearms''' Database. And an edged weapon is not a firearm. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 06:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If any of you have ever seen the show, the knife makes demons to burn inside the human bodies. So its, that technical way a firearm, it sets things in fire (demon souls)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;''A firearm is a device which projects either single or multiple projectiles at high velocity through a controlled explosion. The firing is achieved by the gases produced through rapid, confined burning of a propellant. This process of rapid burning is technically known as deflagration''&amp;quot; --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 22:31, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And [[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Molotov_Cocktail]]? It doesn`t fire projectiles. ¿And what can you tell me about Rambo knifes, green arow bows, non firing guns. I was just saying that it IS important in the show, and it was my way of asking if someone has a drawing or a picture of the actual used knife. If imfdb doesn`t consider it a &amp;quot;firearm&amp;quot;, well, it won`t be here. Sorry if bothered, just wanted to explain myself. TheBarry1394- (sorry, I was the one asking in first place, and the another one, I dont want to login in this pc)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Supernatural: The Anime ==&lt;br /&gt;
I heard about this today.  I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.  The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkzFnQBV5Hs&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded trailer] is in Japanese.  --[[User:Redram355|redram355]] 11:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It was actually amazing. Just like the show. They captured the humor perfectly and Jared is in the Dub. Dean seems to use the Taurus PT92 as his main gun. (Even has the grip safety drawn on it). Only thing that sucks was they had to change all the other characters looks. Dad is fine but Bobby is lame. Needs a IMFD page :P&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sixth Season Weapons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where are they, what did they use, does anybody know? Especially the sniper rifle from &amp;quot;All dogs go to heaven&amp;quot; ? Sorry, I'm a weapons noob, but I wanna know ! -- [[Special:Contributions/89.12.246.31|89.12.246.31]] 18:00, 29 April 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Supernatural</title>
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&lt;div&gt;==STOP! putting  hyperlinks in the section titles==&lt;br /&gt;
Whoever did that is an idiot.  The rules specifically prohibit putting hyperlinks in the section titles, and yet, several anonymous users (IP addresses only) went through and hyperlinked nearly this entire page (which is now being changed BACK).  Knock it off.  If any more anonymous  users does something that goes against the written IMFDB rules again, they get ONE warning on their talk page, and if it happens again, even ONCE, they're banned.  Either READ the rules or go away.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Amen. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruby´s knife==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn´t ruby´s knife be on the page due its ability for killing demons and other creatures? Besides, can´t its blade be the lance of longinus?-the las one is a suposition due its power against demons-&lt;br /&gt;
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::Nope, stupid idea, what is with foreign IMFDB members wanting to include all these 'non firearms' into the site.  Ridiculous MPM&lt;br /&gt;
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I wounder what would a be a good handgun for fighting paranormal threats. Rex095&lt;br /&gt;
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While I have no issue with displaying all weapons used, this is the Internet Movie '''Firearms''' Database. And an edged weapon is not a firearm. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 06:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If any of you have ever seen the show, the knife makes demons to burn inside the human bodies. So its, that technical way a firearm, it sets things in fire (demon souls)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;''A firearm is a device which projects either single or multiple projectiles at high velocity through a controlled explosion. The firing is achieved by the gases produced through rapid, confined burning of a propellant. This process of rapid burning is technically known as deflagration''&amp;quot; --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 22:31, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And [[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Molotov_Cocktail]]? It doesn`t fire projectiles. ¿And what can you tell me about Rambo knifes, green arow bows, non firing guns. I was just saying that it IS important in the show, and it was my way of asking if someone has a drawing or a picture of the actual used knife. If imfdb doesn`t consider it a &amp;quot;firearm&amp;quot;, well, it won`t be here. Sorry if bothered, just wanted to explain myself. TheBarry1394- (sorry, I was the one asking in first place, and the another one, I dont want to login in this pc)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Supernatural: The Anime ==&lt;br /&gt;
I heard about this today.  I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.  The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkzFnQBV5Hs&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded trailer] is in Japanese.  --[[User:Redram355|redram355]] 11:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It was actually amazing. Just like the show. They captured the humor perfectly and Jared is in the Dub. Dean seems to use the Taurus PT92 as his main gun. (Even has the grip safety drawn on it). Only thing that sucks was they had to change all the other chrecters looks. Dad is fine but Bobby is lame. Needs a IMFD page :P&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sixth Season Weapons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where are they, what did they use, does anybody know? Especially the sniper rifle from &amp;quot;All dogs go to heaven&amp;quot; ? Sorry, I'm a weapons noob, but I wanna know ! -- [[Special:Contributions/89.12.246.31|89.12.246.31]] 18:00, 29 April 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Damn, i wanted to do this page :) Anyways - great work and good screens . Now you have to just add &amp;quot;poster&amp;quot; :) --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 10:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You forgot the gun that Curtner shot himself in the face with.&lt;br /&gt;
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The shotgun used by Wilson and hunting buddy too.  Sorry, I don't have that episode and can't recall the make or model.&lt;br /&gt;
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The picture of the Marine also shows he is wearing a ACU plate carrier with Marpat camo. So it wasent just House&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:The Walking Dead (TV Series)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Not a 1911?&lt;br /&gt;
In the new trailer, rick takes the gun from the guy and points it at his head. You can clearly see its not a 1911.&lt;br /&gt;
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That's Norman Reedus with the crossbow. He plays Daryl Dixon, who was not in the actual comic that I can recall. I like that though, he's a cool actor. I'm also a little bummed that they didn't use the guns drawn in the comics. Rick uses a HK mk.23. For those of you who might think that it's impossible to tell that from the comic the artist wrote HK MK.23 on the barrel.  [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==New Sidearms confirmed!==&lt;br /&gt;
New article reviled.&lt;br /&gt;
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SF has a Glock.&lt;br /&gt;
Ranger has the M9.&lt;br /&gt;
And someone we havent seen named Rabbit Has a Sig. Navy Seal im guessing&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;When you play as &amp;quot;Rabbit&amp;quot; you carry a Sig. When you play as &amp;quot;Deuce&amp;quot; you carry a Glock. And when you are Dante Adams you carry the M9. These weapons can never be dropped, never run out of ammunition, and are an integral part of each character’s identity. The variety in these side arms is also intended to help give distinction and personality to each of the characters represented in &amp;quot;Neptune&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Wolfpack&amp;quot; and 1/75th Ranger&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:I have two things to say about that. One, I'm happy I wont have to look at an M9 throughout the campaign. Two, I hope they allow you to pick which pistol you use in mp since it'd effectively wouldn't change the balance at all. Just allow more individualism to the players. Did I mention I'm really tired of seeing the M9 in my games?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Like most games the handguns will have different powers even if they're the same caliber, I'm betting. At least in Multiplayer anyways. Because in the level up screen you can see a level up sidearm section. And I'm hopeing only pistol are sidearms. Unlike modern 2 which had Shotguns and Machine pistols, which unbalanced the game&lt;br /&gt;
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:You DO remember the first Modern Warfare where you can have TWO primary weapons on you, that's even worse. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, MoH gives you two primaries and your secondary. Which actually isn't as bad as most would think. Some operators use a shotgun and their AR, and I'm sure having an SMG, a pistol and an M4 wouldn't be too bad, since I did it once for a test of my webgear for a review. Also, it's possible they could just use the different pistol models as just that, models. Same stats, but different appearance. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 05:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you really think about it, having 2 Primaries on you, plus your sidearm is just too much. Maybe for a shotgun, but even then. You'd have 3 sets of reloads and it's already heavy on you. The only times An operator needs a shotgun alongside his rifle is that he needs to breach a door and no one else has a shotgun. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:23, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree with ya about the having 3 different reloads, but depending on the weapons, the weight isn't so bad, or at least less noticeable. Anyway, it really could be worse. They could have you carrying two different types of rocket launchers and a machine gun like you can do in the Halo series. &lt;br /&gt;
:At least they're making it so that you don't ditch a pistol two seconds into a level. I've always hated how any sidearm looses all use less than a minute into a game.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 06:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Am I the only one here distressed by the ''unlimited ammo'' aspect of the sidearms? This game is getting to be more and more ridiculous as it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Remember MW2 ? 400 rounds was total standard. And there isnt any true difference between ''unlimited'' and 400.&lt;br /&gt;
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I liked it back when you can keep your sidearm and just pick up another primary. Sure it's a bit unrealistic to be carrying the max ammo for that gun, but not as unrealistic as dropping your handgun for a shotgun [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Where was it shown you get two primarys? Pretty sure its one primary and sidearm. Ive never seen or read about that in this game.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Knife?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I watched the &amp;quot;Leave a Message&amp;quot; trailer recently. I think one of the Rangers had a Gerber LMF II knife attached to his MOLLE vest. I own this same knife which is why it caught my eye.&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe so, but we need to avoid putting knives down. Yes, the MW2 page as well as some others have knives, but I'm in favor of removing said knives from said pages entirely. The site is called Internet Movie '''Firearms''' Database for a reason. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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When will 360 beta be out? I keep hearing within a week but have seen no announcements by the company.&lt;br /&gt;
:http://twitter.com/medalofhonor&lt;br /&gt;
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Both links failed, and im getting pissed waiting, gives you high hopes for the games multiplayer when a short beta is this delayed......&lt;br /&gt;
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I heard somewhere they're going to run it after they fix the bugs from the PS3/PC Betas, after they're done, because it will allow them to find new problems and because it saves money. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i just saw the 12 round beretta mentioned  i think they did that for balance reasons. Another game too focused on fairness. God forbid you unlock a gun later on that just owns. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah its kind of annoying when its that balanced, at least you could pretend its the .40, but I wouldn't even know what to do with the Grach, its named the Tariq (which is something else) and has 12 rounds too, when its supposed to have 17. Wait, couldn't they both just have been 16 to be in between? If I WAS going to make an overly balanced system like this, I'd try to make it close, why take them both down to 12? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Pretend it's the .40 too&lt;br /&gt;
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Haha too bad there isn't one... WAIT! If you really want to stretch it you could pretend its the compact MP-448, 12 rounds of 9x18mm lol :D [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I hate when the do something like &amp;quot;the m4 has 20 power and 30 fire rate, the AK has 30 power and 20 fire rate, so there balanced. Then they go weapon x is more accurate than weapon y since its weaker and needs an advantage. I wish when you leveled up you had guns with good advantages that just own.&lt;br /&gt;
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-k9870&lt;br /&gt;
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I want a game that keeps the round in the chamber, keeps track of your extra mags (not the one big number bullshit), all the functions to be right, none of the guns to be set in a firing mode they're not in, the ability to switch modes to whatever that weapon has, the correct attachments (no AKs with ACOGs, or M14s and G3s with M203s), the correct animations for reloads, correct fire rates, correct mag capacities, correct zooms on scopes and no zoom on reflex sights/irons sights, its not really too much to ask I don't think. The only thing that would be arguable would be damage stuff does, but for the MOST part if you used the calibre measurement as the damage it would work (i.e. 5.56mm does  about 22 damage, 7.62mm does 30, .50 does 50) it's not perfect but I at least want the guns with the same calibres to do the same damage... Rant done. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a game for you, it's called ArmA. Mainstream arcadey FPS won't have all these features. But I agree at least counting bullet up the pipe would be nice touch. That always bugged me too. I have no idea why CoD games still doesn't have this. Anyway, ACOG (or any other weaver optic) on AK is not a problem via special mount. 203 on G3 and M14 is possible too.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh believe me, I wouldn't need ALL that, I still play the mainstream FPSs, it would just be nice, I just kept going with the list ;) And I do know you can technically put an ACOG on an AK or a 203 on the M14 or G3, but it would be nice to see the things that are supposed to be there... there, like the HK79. The attachments thing certainly wouldn't be as important to me as the round in the chamber, and I don't think guns of the same calibre having the same damage would be too much, its not that would take any extra effort... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same caliber doesn't always do same damage when shot from different barrels. M16 and M4 is a good example. In case with M16 bullet tumble and fragment thus making more damage, but when the same ammo shot from M4 it does not.&lt;br /&gt;
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I knew that but didn't want to make my posts too long ;)That's fair, I meant more the stuff that doesn't make sense, like a 12 gauge that does more damage than another 12 gauge because it's pump action vs semi-auto, or like in Modern Warfare 2, which is the game I'm mostly complaning about, the F2000 has a 15.7&amp;quot; barrel and does 30 damage, while the TAR-21 has an 18.1&amp;quot; does 40, I know the idea of damage as a numerical system like this isn't realistic in a lot of ways, but it's the best anyone has been able to come up with so far, and I wouldn't think 2.4 inches of barrel would make that much of a difference. Put it this way, out of the 9 assault rifles in that game there are only 3 different damages, the 30, 40, and 55, keep in mind that the calibres here are 5.56, 7.62, and 7.62 NATO: the M4, ACR, and F2000 do 30, the FAMAS, SCAR, TAR-21, M16A4, and AK-47 do the same (lol what?) at 40, and the FAL does a whopping 55 (because its semi). But the single worst is the UMP and Super V, both .45s with a comparible barrel length, the UMP does 40 (again) and the the Super V does... 25. I know there should be differences but this makes NO SENSE. Sorry, I know this is the Medal Of Honor page, but everyone here seems smarter... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not a simulator. They needed to differentiate gun's performance. Besides, most people playing it doesn't know shit which caliber it shoots. So probably it's better to just get over it. Try playing hardcore mode and weapon damage won't bother you so much.&lt;br /&gt;
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I know :) it doesn't really matter too much, it would just be nice, but I'm not expecting it though lol [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 06:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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seriously, no 1911 very disapointing. it might be outdated but Special Forces still use them. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said there won't be a 1911 in the final game? This isn't the final game. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i dont know. i just figured since its not on the page already they wouldnt have it. but i hope they do. its a great gun and is used by Spec Ops. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i think that all the comparisons come from MW2 because it has an overwhelming amount of flaws. for example- what has been previously stated. and does anyone else find it peculiar that all assault rifles lose the front sight when optics are attached? knowone would do that its stupid. what if there was a long battle and you ran out of battery on a dime, nope your dead now. and i kind of agree with the lack of a back sight because it takes away the point of the reflex being quick if you have to line 3 things to a target instead of the 1-2 or a normal rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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==First Part==&lt;br /&gt;
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This game looks very promising in terms of realism and graphics compared to the other games.  I'm excited to see that the game developers are working with REAL special forces operators.  The game comes out in Fall 2010.  CAN'T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!!!- ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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I've always had a soft spot with this series. I really hope they knock it out of the park with this one. &lt;br /&gt;
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I'm guessing the guy on the front cover is a Green Beret?-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:For some reason I though the guy on the front page was a PMC --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Na he is a Green Beret.  That's the way they look when they are in a combat zone.  They have to grow out a beard and dress like the civilians/insurgents in that particular area.-ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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A World War II shooter series is switching to a modern setting? It'll never work.&lt;br /&gt;
:Your kidding right...and sign your posts --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:25, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The graphics appear to be on par with ''[[America's Army 3]]'', though hopefully it'll have less problems and a better weapon selection. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The trailer had what looked like an [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW]] variant fitted with an EOTech red dot sight, but I only saw it for a second looking down the sights in first-person mode so couldn't determine wether it was a standard SAW or specialized version like the Paratrooper or [[FN Minimi#FN Minimi SPW|SPW]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a screen of the M4A1 and the Minimi/SAw possibilty.  --[[User:TheCrazyGunNut|TheCrazyGunNut]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah, cheap EA.. This is so obvious that they are doing this because of MW success. Won't buy just because of this fact.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or because WWII has been overdone and they wanted to do something else. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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20th century saw so many wars. They could pick any one. The most suitable would be Vietnam war. I can't recall many good games about this conflict. It could be about SF also.&lt;br /&gt;
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How about Vietcong? http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Vietcong In my personal oppinion the best PC game from Vietnam conflict up to date. I know that the Vietcong wasn't perfect but other games usually wasted their potential (e.g. Conflict Vietnam, Men of Valor) ended as a low quality budget (first Shellshock 67 and many others) or as some crazy VC/NVA-zombie kill fest (recent Shellshock 2). &lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that there were many other &amp;quot;interesting&amp;quot; conflicts or suitable theathers for FPS games but &amp;quot;supply is influenced by demand&amp;quot;. The &amp;quot;anti-terrorist&amp;quot; theme is actual and developers don't want to risk introducing a game that &amp;quot;nobody would want to play&amp;quot;. Remember it's all about the money. Actually it's quite strange that if I look backwards I can't recall any good or partially realistic FPS from Afganistan or Iraq theatre - Modern Warefare, appart from other parts of the story, was set partialy in the Middle East but in some fictisious country (and that *** spoliler *** nuking of the whole Marine division *** spoiler *** was complete bullshit) and Modern Warefare 2 was about hunting down some crazy Russian ultranationalists (and *** spoiler *** one rouge American general *** spoiler *** that was bullshit as well). No offence to Call of Duty but I personally hope that Medal of Honor would not turn into such killfest of stupid AI NPC duchebags thrown in absolutely ridiculous waves into a single coridor where you have to kill more than 70 opponents on less than 100 square feet ...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wow, so doing something original is bullshit? I mean, come on; I'd rather shoot 70 guys in a single cooridor than simply go from cave to cave, shooting the occasional militant, or riding about in my vehicle until I hit a bomb and get ambushed. Generic examples I know, but put simply, fighting a military-trained, fully-equipped soldier is a lot more exciting than some fanatical militant using 30-year-old weapons. Heck, even America's Army created a fictional enemy for the US Army to fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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Judging by what I'm seeing in the trailer this is going to be far from any CoD style of modern warfare. This shit looks seriously hardcore in terms of trying to replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully by then they fix the damn gas block thing. Fuck that pisses me off. These guys are working with tier 1 operators but they don't want to model the damn gun correctly. Anybody with even slight knowledge of an AR-15 platform would notice this error. It's a big frickin error.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::&amp;quot;replicate actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay&amp;quot;? So coalition forces playing in a sandbox there? And duh, there is a gas-block, it's just too low-profile and you cannot see it.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Even if the gas block isn't there, does it really matter? The average gamer probably doesn't know, or care, what a gas block is, let alone whether it's actually there or not; and the Medal of Honor series goes for what looks cool (such as the Flak Tower in Airborne), not what's realistic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't change the intent of my words. Let me rephrase :::&amp;quot;replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan fighting into gameplay.&amp;quot; There happy? As well the use of a low profile gas block seems like an excuse. What are the chances that every M4 has a low profile gas block when there are attached optics?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why not? It's a game about hi-speed low-drag tear1 omfgd3ltasealz special forces operators.&lt;br /&gt;
::::That's ''Tier'' 1. And even a low-profile gas block would still be visible on the barrel where the standard FSP would be due to the length of the gas tube. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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North American release date is October 12, 2010. Europe is October 15.-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpgNJZ8Fhc&amp;amp;playnext_from=TL&amp;amp;videos=vd-xeQ7FyHw&lt;br /&gt;
^ At 0:56, 1:04, 1:16 you can see a stock, body, and barrel of a M14 EBR.&lt;br /&gt;
At O:43 you can see what I believe to be some kind of M240.*EDIT: Mk 46 Mod 0* &lt;br /&gt;
All along the trailer are M4s with optics and different accessories. -DeltaOp&lt;br /&gt;
:Was the Mark 14 EBR even fielded yet in 2002? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Nope. EBR was designed around that date - 2001/2002 but first units (mostly from Navy Seals) were issued this rifle later on in 2004. So it's probably another game inaccuracy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said it was set in 2002? And the gas block isn't removed for optics like in Call Of Duty, it's removed when the M203's flip up sight is on top, I'm thinking it's not to block that, not that I think it would block it, but that's when it's not there, not because of optics. EDIT: Wow my bad, it is set then, and I was thinking the M203 was an attachment, but its fixed on like in BFBC2, wow, I feel dumb lol. EDIT #2: I figured it out, the M16 removes the front sight for optics, but the M4 doesn't. Odd. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Green Beret on cover ==&lt;br /&gt;
It's ''Cowboy''! [http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/03/news-bearded-guy-on-medal-of-honor-cover-is-real.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lmao. Oh i didnt think of that one. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone think its kinda odd that the Rangers seem to be doing alot of the work. along with the Green Beret. Wouldnt Delta Force/Navy SEALs be doing most of the stuff?&lt;br /&gt;
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1st SFOD-D and Navy SEALs are, let's say, &amp;quot;equal&amp;quot; to Special Forces concerning their roles within US SOCOM. They are highly trained operators used for specific and &amp;quot;delicate&amp;quot; stuff. Rangers are more like muscless used for more &amp;quot;dirty&amp;quot; tasks. In reality, you would rather send a Special Forces A-Team to do cool things like - to recon the enemy airfield, to pin point potential high-value targets, to set observation post for calling CAS missions or to set sniping posts with 18B class operators with sniper rifles; while few C-130s packed with Ranger chalks would wait to &amp;quot;go-order&amp;quot; so they can jump in, do all the hard work and blow the enemy to pieces. Special Forces (Delta/SEALs etc.) are too valuable for such things. Even though, they are capable of kicking some serious ass, it is not practical to &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; several A- or SEAL teams for a task, which bunch of Ranger squads could do better.[Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
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okay thats true, but i just dont see why there wouldnt be SOME Operators or SEALs, think about this. Rangers are like the backbone of USSOCOM, Green Berets, are trained in Reconaissance, but if u want to kick some serious Taliban ass, u send in Operators or SEALs, because they excel at kickin' the door down, and opening up some whoop-ass. [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 00:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Who is the &amp;quot;Operators&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
::Delta &amp;quot;Operators&amp;quot;. [[User:Pz.Abt.100|Pz.Abt.100]] 22:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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but really, i no Delta is more of a mission specific unit, but seriously what is America's best military asset? 1stSFOD-D. why? because they have close to 500 Operators, the best in the world. and officially they dont exist. political bull shit in the way, no problemo. they dont exist. its denieble if you send them in.[[Special:Contributions/71.194.219.9|71.194.219.9]] 19:03, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guns revealed in multi-player demo at E3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
(These are just what I could spot while watching it on TV)&lt;br /&gt;
*Beretta 92FS/M9 (not a 92SB like in CoD, had the squared-off trigger guard)&lt;br /&gt;
*Pump-action shotgun I couldn't identify (they only showed it from the back)&lt;br /&gt;
*Bolt-action sniper rifle, presumably a Remington M24 (only saw it from the back and right side as the player was working the bolt)&lt;br /&gt;
*Not actually a new gun, but the M4A1 also had a low-profile front BUIS mounted on the RIS is some scenes&lt;br /&gt;
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If you check the kill feed immediately after the kill with the sniper rifle, the identifies the unknown rifle as a Sako M57. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I found some footage: http://videos.pcgames.de/v/MuuqC3iXMpw/Medal-of-Honor/Multiplayer-Gameplay-E3-2010/ (the shotgun is a TOZ-194)&lt;br /&gt;
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More confirmed weapons. I recommend you keep your eye to the left of the screen, below the radar, to see some weapons we have missed while watching the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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RPG 7-In-game footage&lt;br /&gt;
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== List ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm gonna put all the ones I've seen down, so we've got one big list (this is all from the 11 minute long multiplayer video, both seen on screen and on the killfeed) If the names are given (killfeed ones) I'm writing them exactly as they are named in game. For the ones that aren't named I'll name them what they are.&lt;br /&gt;
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M14 EBR (Seen in other videos. It is NOT the same as the M21 like it is in certain other games, the M21 has a normal M21 type body and stock, BOTH are in this.) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Spliting into sections ==&lt;br /&gt;
Wont it make sence to make two sections ? One with MP´s guns and one with SP´s guns. I think it will - because they dont use same engine, so guns can be different.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why would the single player and multiplayer use different engines? That makes no sense. It would make the modelers have to model everything twice, and take up twice as much space on disc. No. We're not going to do that.-protoAuthor 19:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure if i'm doing this right, but yes it uses different engines, and the modelers do not have to model everything twice, they can easily import it from a common format to both engine's formats, PSK Mesh (or something) for UT3, and a new version of bundledmesh contained in RES files for frostbite. You don't have to model it twice, you just export within both engines.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It still makes no sense to split up the page. But thank you for enlightening me to something that still makes no sense to me. Why would they do that?-protoAuthor 16:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The only reason i could possibly see would be to make a comparable multiplayer experience for BFBC2 players, And they might have already started building singleplayer on the unreal engine, which most if not all of the previous MoH games used. In my opinion, it shouldn't be split either, means some firearms would be listed twice. btw this isn't the original poster, this is the guy from the post before proto's last.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ok than. It doesnt have to be split, but there should be atlest writed to each screenshot &amp;quot; This is from Multiplayer/ Singleplayer&amp;quot;. And just one little '''BTW''': They modelled it twice. As you can see, M4 or MK46 '''''HAVE''''' different models.&lt;br /&gt;
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That's because the M4 and Mk. 46 are different guns, silly.-protoAuthor 04:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Heh. I mean that M4 looks different in SP and MP. Same with Mk.46&lt;br /&gt;
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They do look different but I think its just because one sets from that first trailer a while ago, game's graphics always get better as develpment keeps going, but you might be right to, I was just throwing that out there. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== LMG Special Weapons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the sniper class you get C4, in the special ops class you get a rocket, and with an assault rifle in the rifleman class you get a launcher... so what do you get if you equip an LMG? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 09:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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more ammo?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Absolutely nothing. You have 2 spare 150 round mags (in the beta, with the PK).&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that a joke or can you actually be a suicide bomber, cause what would the American gunners get? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is then? Okay cool, I figured but I wasn't sure, I can't check because the 360 beta was delayed :( [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== Best of 3 shooters? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to say, out of the 3 FPS games that will be coming out in Q4 (this one, Spec Ops: The Line, and CoD: Black Ops), I am looking forward to Medal of Honor the most. From what I've seen about the other two, they look like they're filled with sensationalist b.s. . -Any Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
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:MoH looks WAY to much like Bad Company 2, and I think it's EAs fault. They want to capitalize on the modern warfare craze so much, they're using another popular series to boost sales. To be honest, MOH looks like BC2 with Taliban, and I'll most likely not be getting it. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Medal of honor is not going to be way too much like BC2 because the gameplay will be much more tactical and realistic.  Like real modern warfare.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Says you man. Face it, it's going to be bought by the same type of people who buy MW2 and BC2, mostly idiot kids ranging from 10 to 15 who just wanna get four man sprays and noob tubes across the map. This is a console FPS that can be bought by anyone, and has nothing to offer that will make it overly unique, so it will end up like MW2 and BC2, noob weapons will arise, and it will just be another chaotic FPS. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, my bad. I thought it was one of those deals like Fallout 3 where you could switch from first-to-third-person and back -Any Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
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== Animations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that only happens in multiplayer due to it being a different engine, but yeah it is weird&lt;br /&gt;
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I was really psyched about the game untill i found out it was made by the people who made BF-BD2. you said it was a different engine. does that mean that it will be different creators or what? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mp is made by BC2 (''not BD2'' ) creators - DICE. So it means only good part on that game will be SP - developed by EA on UT3 engine.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Full Auto M16A4 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wouldn't having an M16A4 on full auto make it a C7A1? I know there are a few other differences, but they're all internal, it's the only difference visible in some way. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well I would have said M16A3, but those didn't have rails. So yes, the only M16 variant that has an RIS system and goes full-auto is the C7A2, so indeed this new game uses a C7. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::M16A4 with FA lower - what could be easier&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I wouldn't call &amp;quot;full-auto&amp;quot; M16A4 a C7A2. C7A2 has some, more or less significant, differences - e.g. ambidextrous fire selector or retractable stock. Plus Canadian military did not use full length RIS systems (e.g. like King Arms M5 on M16A4) on their C7s. Full-auto M16A4 is just another game-developer inaccuracy created by lack of knowledge about firearms. Unfortunately, it's a trend in nowadays mainstream FPS like Modern Warfare or Battlefield Bad Company. Game developers just give a sh*t about this stuff. 13-year-old kids screaming and b*tching in multiplayer would not notice the difference. [Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
:: 3-burst is for nubs that can't cut it by themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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::The M5 RAS on the M16A4 is made by KAC, not King Arms. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course I realize that having it full auto is just a screw up, like in most movies, and I'm not talking about the C7A2, with the green furniture and ambi controls, I meant the C7A1, which is the same in terms of appearance. Here's one without an ELCAN, because I know someone will complain about that:&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and you can put the KAC Rails on any M16-length AR, so that's not really an issue, some of the C7A1s (like the one pictured) had them put on before the C7A2 was introduced with the TRIAD. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It could be a C7, but really, it's just EA's lack of knowledge about weapons, cause full auto is what every assault rifle shoots, right? Man, games like Call of Duty 4 tried their best to keep weapons accurate, now it's all about tacticool weapons that fire full auto and have cool sights and nice finishes. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah I know, and guns don't need to be re-chambered after they run empty too :p in this and Bad Company 2, it's kind of distracting when I'm playing to be honest, well, I've gotten used to it a little more by now. Okay what I don't get is why can't it be listed as a C7A1? Or at least mentioned... If there was an gun listed as an M4 (not A1) and it was firing full auto you guys would have no problem saying it's actually an M4A1, or an AK-47 is really an AKM, so why can't the M16 really be a C7? I realize it's just a mistake on the developer's part, but that doesn't stop us pointing out the other ones... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:56, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it would be a good idea if we mentioned that in reality, this would class it as a C7A1 etc. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 18:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Has there even ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game? At any rate, I think just noting that it's inaccurately portrayed as full auto is enough. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto! But yeah, just classify the M16 in MOH as a C7A1, cause in reality that's what it is. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Best 5 minutes of my life reading this! [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 20:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto!'' - Believe it or not, 4-position selectors for AR-15 type rifles exist.  There should be a link to the patent in the Season 2 discussion. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The so-called &amp;quot;Green Berets&amp;quot; on that show were idiot actors who didn't do their research, so I don't really give a crap about what they say. The M4A1 as used by the US military is safe/semi/auto, no burst. 4-pos selectors may exist, but the US military does not use them. That also wasn't an answer my question. ''Have there ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game?'' By &amp;quot;burst-firing M4&amp;quot;, I mean the M4 with M16A2/A4 trigger group as issued en mass to regular US Army troops. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I only know of two games that have M4s with the A2/A4 trigger group.  There's one of the Call of Duty Modern Warfare games for the Nintendo DS, and then there's the Battlefield 2 mod [[Project Reality]], where it features both burst-firing M4s for the Americans and full-auto M4A1s for the Israelis.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you, that ''did'' answer my question. Also, lol @the thread on EA Forums. That was a pretty entertaining read. Though I quite disagree with the guy who claims you can't know anything about an M16 or other firearm without having handled or used one. I've never handled an M16, but I still know the difference between an A1, A2, A3, and A4. Good thing I quit bothering with that place within the first few days I registered, otherwise I'd probably be ankle-deep in that ****storm. XD [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::To Hoot471, that forum nearly gave me a headsplosion, how can people be so unbelievably ignorant and stupid?! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi-Def MP videos ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You guys might want to check this out: On YouTube, there's someone by the name of deluxe345 who has Hi-Definition videos from the Medal of Honor multiplayer (there are 3 or 4). Also, in one of these videos, I spotted an M224 mortar in the killfeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==360 Beta?==&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, does anyone on Earth have a clue when the 360 beta for this comes out!? PS3 and PC went up June 21st, and yet 360 is still delayed, anyone got a clue? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I got deployed for deepwater horizon so no vid games till september. I seriously wish that the release had been on time, I could have played it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Clip/Magazine==&lt;br /&gt;
A frivolous debate, but why oh why must they call the magazines &amp;quot;clips&amp;quot; in the game? Yuck. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know why, but the same error happened in an episode in Lois &amp;amp; Clark. They probably got confused with clips and magazines since that they are both similar. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is nothing similar between a clip and a magazine. A Magazine is a block that stores the bullets, a clip is a strip of metal that holds the bullets that are then FED into a Magazine. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;The Catalyst&amp;quot; Linkin Park song trailer==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there gave been some new guns spotted and i already identified few of them. But can someone help me with this ?&lt;br /&gt;
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Magazine seems to wide and big for 5.56. I truly need help with this.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure the MP5 is shown at one point in the trailer. I'd have to look at the trailer again to find the exact point, but I'll update when I do find the time stamp. Lets hope we see the MP5 in multiplayer as well as the campaign if my spot is correct.  Also, I'm pretty sure the picture shown above is just the M4A1, but I'm not 100%. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 22:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
1:30 seconds in, on the operator's chest. I am pretty sure that's an MP5A3 or A5. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 23:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That's M4 or might be h&amp;amp;k 416. Clip is just taped. Also, all this specop theme became too popularized after MW1. Don't like.&lt;br /&gt;
::It's called a Magazine or Mag. Don't like [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::After re-watching the video for the 17th or so time, the weapon I thought was the MP5 was just an MP7 that blended a little too well into the vest. That said, I did notice that one of the Rangers in the trailer was using an Aimpoint M68 (Comp M2) sight on his M4A1. Possibly another sight option? Who knows. I just know I'm excited for this game.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's an M4 kitted out with an EOTech 552, KAC Free-Float RAS, PEQ-2A, and KAC broomstick. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unimpressed....==&lt;br /&gt;
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Anybody else feel unimpressed looking at this game? I mean, nothing about it really stands out to me. The firearm selection is trite and cliche, the modern military tacticool spec ops motif has been done far too much, and so has the idea of weapon customization. Honestly, when I saw this game I just kinda yawned and moved on. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 19:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: About that firearms choose : So you would give terrorists XM8´s, just because its cliche in video games ? No. So why not give them weapons they use in real ?&lt;br /&gt;
        No I wouldn't, unless a terrorist militia could plausibly get it hand's on a bunch of HK weapons. I'm just sort of sick of seeing the same stuff over and over and over. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 09:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I actually see this as a good change from Modern Warfare and Bad Company rather than yet another tacticool game. Sure, most of it has been done, but so has most other games. At least its not YET another World War 2 sim.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 20:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)        &lt;br /&gt;
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But see, that's the whole thing. Instead of &amp;quot;yet another WW2 sim,&amp;quot; it's become &amp;quot;yet another Spec Ops shooter.&amp;quot; And for the record, I liked Bad Company, and I don't see how this will be any different. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 23:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Much more realistic''' ('' Cmon, Russians with tavors and milita with tactical AK´s ?'' )&lt;br /&gt;
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Then I better get this for my 360 then PC, cause the graphics are just as high as BC 2 so it'll mess with my PC. The Multiplayer was designed by the same guys who did Bad Company, so we see a lot of their handy work. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, comparing ANYTHING to MW2 instantly makes it better. And if what excalibur says is true, then I'm inclined to go with what everybody else has been saying and write it off as Bad Company 2 with Taliban. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 11:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: We are talking about SP. MP will be BC2 clone ( ''Yeah. Same people are doing it, why not then ?'' ).. But SP will be better :P&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah, I'd certainly be willing to try the single player if it looks any good. Not sure if I'd pay full release price for it though, I'll probably go out and buy it later on when it gets down to like 40 bucks. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just find it odd that they'd get a completely different group to do the multiplayer and when you look at the multiplayer, it feels like MW2 but with a different game engine. The point and level up system is essentially the same, but the classes are almost the same from Bad Company. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To be honest, I had high hopes for this game, but with the &amp;quot;Catalyst&amp;quot; trailer (overly dramatic acting plus ear-bleeding Linkin Park= FAIL), it just looks like something else that fanboys will be able to wax their carrots to. Ain't no way in hell I'm shelling out $60 just to hear some USI-infested teenager (whose gamertag is  [USMC]&amp;quot;xxSwaggaSniperxx&amp;quot; or something else that sounds mall ninja-ish) cuss me out after I've killed him twice in a row.[[Special:Contributions/74.192.58.206|74.192.58.206]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I watched said trailer and completely gave up on this game. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 09:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dragunov ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where did it come from that the NDM-86 is in 7.62x51mm? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Oh, wait, what ?&lt;br /&gt;
::Look at the mag in the weapon selection screen shot. It's clearly not the Dragunov's standard mag and a straight 7.62x51mm mag. I agree with whoever did the change that it's the NDM-86. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 13:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, i have done it. And it doesnt have anything to do with 7.62x51, its actually standart .308 winchester. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Last I checked, the .308 was the civilian version of the 7.62 NATO. So in other words, it's the same round for the purposes of this discussion. Don't mean to sound rude or anything, just something to think about. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 14:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: ( ''Wow, so many &amp;quot;''':'''&amp;quot; symbols'' ) Well, .308 is more powerfull i think. But whatever - Im glad someone agrees that NDM-86 is there. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::It's the same basic round, 7.62 NATO is just loaded to a higher pressure than civilian .308, I think. But I now see what you mean about the mag. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* New Sidearms confirmed! */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==New Sidearms confirmed!==&lt;br /&gt;
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SF has a Glock.&lt;br /&gt;
Ranger has the M9.&lt;br /&gt;
And someone we havent seen named Rabbit Has a Sig. Navy Seal im guessing&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;When you play as &amp;quot;Rabbit&amp;quot; you carry a Sig. When you play as &amp;quot;Deuce&amp;quot; you carry a Glock. And when you are Dante Adams you carry the M9. These weapons can never be dropped, never run out of ammunition, and are an integral part of each character’s identity. The variety in these side arms is also intended to help give distinction and personality to each of the characters represented in &amp;quot;Neptune&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Wolfpack&amp;quot; and 1/75th Ranger&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:I have two things to say about that. One, I'm happy I wont have to look at an M9 throughout the campaign. Two, I hope they allow you to pick which pistol you use in mp since it'd effectively wouldn't change the balance at all. Just allow more individualism to the players. Did I mention I'm really tired of seeing the M9 in my games?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Like most games the handguns will have different powers even if they're the same caliber, I'm betting. At least in Multiplayer anyways. Because in the level up screen you can see a level up sidearm section. And I'm hopeing only pistol are sidearms. Unlike modern 2 which had Shotguns and Machine pistols, which unbalanced the game&lt;br /&gt;
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:You DO remember the first Modern Warfare where you can have TWO primary weapons on you, that's even worse. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, MoH gives you two primaries and your secondary. Which actually isn't as bad as most would think. Some operators use a shotgun and their AR, and I'm sure having an SMG, a pistol and an M4 wouldn't be too bad, since I did it once for a test of my webgear for a review. Also, it's possible they could just use the different pistol models as just that, models. Same stats, but different appearance. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 05:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you really think about it, having 2 Primaries on you, plus your sidearm is just too much. Maybe for a shotgun, but even then. You'd have 3 sets of reloads and it's already heavy on you. The only times An operator needs a shotgun alongside his rifle is that he needs to breach a door and no one else has a shotgun. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:23, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree with ya about the having 3 different reloads, but depending on the weapons, the weight isn't so bad, or at least less noticeable. Anyway, it really could be worse. They could have you carrying two different types of rocket launchers and a machine gun like you can do in the Halo series. &lt;br /&gt;
:At least they're making it so that you don't ditch a pistol two seconds into a level. I've always hated how any sidearm looses all use less than a minute into a game.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 06:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Am I the only one here distressed by the ''unlimited ammo'' aspect of the sidearms? This game is getting to be more and more ridiculous as it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Remember MW2 ? 400 rounds was total standard. And there isnt any true difference between ''unlimited'' and 400.&lt;br /&gt;
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I liked it back when you can keep your sidearm and just pick up another primary. Sure it's a bit unrealistic to be carrying the max ammo for that gun, but not as unrealistic as dropping your handgun for a shotgun [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Where was it shown you get to primary? Pretty sure its one primary and sidearm. Ive never seen or read about that in this game.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Knife?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I watched the &amp;quot;Leave a Message&amp;quot; trailer recently. I think one of the Rangers had a Gerber LMF II knife attached to his MOLLE vest. I own this same knife which is why it caught my eye.&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe so, but we need to avoid putting knives down. Yes, the MW2 page as well as some others have knives, but I'm in favor of removing said knives from said pages entirely. The site is called Internet Movie '''Firearms''' Database for a reason. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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When will 360 beta be out? I keep hearing within a week but have seen no announcements by the company.&lt;br /&gt;
:http://twitter.com/medalofhonor&lt;br /&gt;
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Both links failed, and im getting pissed waiting, gives you high hopes for the games multiplayer when a short beta is this delayed......&lt;br /&gt;
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I heard somewhere they're going to run it after they fix the bugs from the PS3/PC Betas, after they're done, because it will allow them to find new problems and because it saves money. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i just saw the 12 round beretta mentioned  i think they did that for balance reasons. Another game too focused on fairness. God forbid you unlock a gun later on that just owns. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah its kind of annoying when its that balanced, at least you could pretend its the .40, but I wouldn't even know what to do with the Grach, its named the Tariq (which is something else) and has 12 rounds too, when its supposed to have 17. Wait, couldn't they both just have been 16 to be in between? If I WAS going to make an overly balanced system like this, I'd try to make it close, why take them both down to 12? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Pretend it's the .40 too&lt;br /&gt;
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Haha too bad there isn't one... WAIT! If you really want to stretch it you could pretend its the compact MP-448, 12 rounds of 9x18mm lol :D [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I hate when the do something like &amp;quot;the m4 has 20 power and 30 fire rate, the AK has 30 power and 20 fire rate, so there balanced. Then they go weapon x is more accurate than weapon y since its weaker and needs an advantage. I wish when you leveled up you had guns with good advantages that just own.&lt;br /&gt;
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I want a game that keeps the round in the chamber, keeps track of your extra mags (not the one big number bullshit), all the functions to be right, none of the guns to be set in a firing mode they're not in, the ability to switch modes to whatever that weapon has, the correct attachments (no AKs with ACOGs, or M14s and G3s with M203s), the correct animations for reloads, correct fire rates, correct mag capacities, correct zooms on scopes and no zoom on reflex sights/irons sights, its not really too much to ask I don't think. The only thing that would be arguable would be damage stuff does, but for the MOST part if you used the calibre measurement as the damage it would work (i.e. 5.56mm does  about 22 damage, 7.62mm does 30, .50 does 50) it's not perfect but I at least want the guns with the same calibres to do the same damage... Rant done. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a game for you, it's called ArmA. Mainstream arcadey FPS won't have all these features. But I agree at least counting bullet up the pipe would be nice touch. That always bugged me too. I have no idea why CoD games still doesn't have this. Anyway, ACOG (or any other weaver optic) on AK is not a problem via special mount. 203 on G3 and M14 is possible too.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh believe me, I wouldn't need ALL that, I still play the mainstream FPSs, it would just be nice, I just kept going with the list ;) And I do know you can technically put an ACOG on an AK or a 203 on the M14 or G3, but it would be nice to see the things that are supposed to be there... there, like the HK79. The attachments thing certainly wouldn't be as important to me as the round in the chamber, and I don't think guns of the same calibre having the same damage would be too much, its not that would take any extra effort... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same caliber doesn't always do same damage when shot from different barrels. M16 and M4 is a good example. In case with M16 bullet tumble and fragment thus making more damage, but when the same ammo shot from M4 it does not.&lt;br /&gt;
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I knew that but didn't want to make my posts too long ;)That's fair, I meant more the stuff that doesn't make sense, like a 12 gauge that does more damage than another 12 gauge because it's pump action vs semi-auto, or like in Modern Warfare 2, which is the game I'm mostly complaning about, the F2000 has a 15.7&amp;quot; barrel and does 30 damage, while the TAR-21 has an 18.1&amp;quot; does 40, I know the idea of damage as a numerical system like this isn't realistic in a lot of ways, but it's the best anyone has been able to come up with so far, and I wouldn't think 2.4 inches of barrel would make that much of a difference. Put it this way, out of the 9 assault rifles in that game there are only 3 different damages, the 30, 40, and 55, keep in mind that the calibres here are 5.56, 7.62, and 7.62 NATO: the M4, ACR, and F2000 do 30, the FAMAS, SCAR, TAR-21, M16A4, and AK-47 do the same (lol what?) at 40, and the FAL does a whopping 55 (because its semi). But the single worst is the UMP and Super V, both .45s with a comparible barrel length, the UMP does 40 (again) and the the Super V does... 25. I know there should be differences but this makes NO SENSE. Sorry, I know this is the Medal Of Honor page, but everyone here seems smarter... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not a simulator. They needed to differentiate gun's performance. Besides, most people playing it doesn't know shit which caliber it shoots. So probably it's better to just get over it. Try playing hardcore mode and weapon damage won't bother you so much.&lt;br /&gt;
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I know :) it doesn't really matter too much, it would just be nice, but I'm not expecting it though lol [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 06:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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seriously, no 1911 very disapointing. it might be outdated but Special Forces still use them. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said there won't be a 1911 in the final game? This isn't the final game. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i dont know. i just figured since its not on the page already they wouldnt have it. but i hope they do. its a great gun and is used by Spec Ops. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i think that all the comparisons come from MW2 because it has an overwhelming amount of flaws. for example- what has been previously stated. and does anyone else find it peculiar that all assault rifles lose the front sight when optics are attached? knowone would do that its stupid. what if there was a long battle and you ran out of battery on a dime, nope your dead now. and i kind of agree with the lack of a back sight because it takes away the point of the reflex being quick if you have to line 3 things to a target instead of the 1-2 or a normal rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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==First Part==&lt;br /&gt;
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This game looks very promising in terms of realism and graphics compared to the other games.  I'm excited to see that the game developers are working with REAL special forces operators.  The game comes out in Fall 2010.  CAN'T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!!!- ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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I've always had a soft spot with this series. I really hope they knock it out of the park with this one. &lt;br /&gt;
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I'm guessing the guy on the front cover is a Green Beret?-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:For some reason I though the guy on the front page was a PMC --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Na he is a Green Beret.  That's the way they look when they are in a combat zone.  They have to grow out a beard and dress like the civilians/insurgents in that particular area.-ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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A World War II shooter series is switching to a modern setting? It'll never work.&lt;br /&gt;
:Your kidding right...and sign your posts --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:25, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The graphics appear to be on par with ''[[America's Army 3]]'', though hopefully it'll have less problems and a better weapon selection. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The trailer had what looked like an [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW]] variant fitted with an EOTech red dot sight, but I only saw it for a second looking down the sights in first-person mode so couldn't determine wether it was a standard SAW or specialized version like the Paratrooper or [[FN Minimi#FN Minimi SPW|SPW]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah, cheap EA.. This is so obvious that they are doing this because of MW success. Won't buy just because of this fact.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or because WWII has been overdone and they wanted to do something else. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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20th century saw so many wars. They could pick any one. The most suitable would be Vietnam war. I can't recall many good games about this conflict. It could be about SF also.&lt;br /&gt;
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How about Vietcong? http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Vietcong In my personal oppinion the best PC game from Vietnam conflict up to date. I know that the Vietcong wasn't perfect but other games usually wasted their potential (e.g. Conflict Vietnam, Men of Valor) ended as a low quality budget (first Shellshock 67 and many others) or as some crazy VC/NVA-zombie kill fest (recent Shellshock 2). &lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that there were many other &amp;quot;interesting&amp;quot; conflicts or suitable theathers for FPS games but &amp;quot;supply is influenced by demand&amp;quot;. The &amp;quot;anti-terrorist&amp;quot; theme is actual and developers don't want to risk introducing a game that &amp;quot;nobody would want to play&amp;quot;. Remember it's all about the money. Actually it's quite strange that if I look backwards I can't recall any good or partially realistic FPS from Afganistan or Iraq theatre - Modern Warefare, appart from other parts of the story, was set partialy in the Middle East but in some fictisious country (and that *** spoliler *** nuking of the whole Marine division *** spoiler *** was complete bullshit) and Modern Warefare 2 was about hunting down some crazy Russian ultranationalists (and *** spoiler *** one rouge American general *** spoiler *** that was bullshit as well). No offence to Call of Duty but I personally hope that Medal of Honor would not turn into such killfest of stupid AI NPC duchebags thrown in absolutely ridiculous waves into a single coridor where you have to kill more than 70 opponents on less than 100 square feet ...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wow, so doing something original is bullshit? I mean, come on; I'd rather shoot 70 guys in a single cooridor than simply go from cave to cave, shooting the occasional militant, or riding about in my vehicle until I hit a bomb and get ambushed. Generic examples I know, but put simply, fighting a military-trained, fully-equipped soldier is a lot more exciting than some fanatical militant using 30-year-old weapons. Heck, even America's Army created a fictional enemy for the US Army to fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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Judging by what I'm seeing in the trailer this is going to be far from any CoD style of modern warfare. This shit looks seriously hardcore in terms of trying to replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully by then they fix the damn gas block thing. Fuck that pisses me off. These guys are working with tier 1 operators but they don't want to model the damn gun correctly. Anybody with even slight knowledge of an AR-15 platform would notice this error. It's a big frickin error.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::&amp;quot;replicate actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay&amp;quot;? So coalition forces playing in a sandbox there? And duh, there is a gas-block, it's just too low-profile and you cannot see it.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Even if the gas block isn't there, does it really matter? The average gamer probably doesn't know, or care, what a gas block is, let alone whether it's actually there or not; and the Medal of Honor series goes for what looks cool (such as the Flak Tower in Airborne), not what's realistic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't change the intent of my words. Let me rephrase :::&amp;quot;replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan fighting into gameplay.&amp;quot; There happy? As well the use of a low profile gas block seems like an excuse. What are the chances that every M4 has a low profile gas block when there are attached optics?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why not? It's a game about hi-speed low-drag tear1 omfgd3ltasealz special forces operators.&lt;br /&gt;
::::That's ''Tier'' 1. And even a low-profile gas block would still be visible on the barrel where the standard FSP would be due to the length of the gas tube. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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^ At 0:56, 1:04, 1:16 you can see a stock, body, and barrel of a M14 EBR.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Was the Mark 14 EBR even fielded yet in 2002? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said it was set in 2002? And the gas block isn't removed for optics like in Call Of Duty, it's removed when the M203's flip up sight is on top, I'm thinking it's not to block that, not that I think it would block it, but that's when it's not there, not because of optics. EDIT: Wow my bad, it is set then, and I was thinking the M203 was an attachment, but its fixed on like in BFBC2, wow, I feel dumb lol. EDIT #2: I figured it out, the M16 removes the front sight for optics, but the M4 doesn't. Odd. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Green Beret on cover ==&lt;br /&gt;
It's ''Cowboy''! [http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/03/news-bearded-guy-on-medal-of-honor-cover-is-real.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lmao. Oh i didnt think of that one. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone think its kinda odd that the Rangers seem to be doing alot of the work. along with the Green Beret. Wouldnt Delta Force/Navy SEALs be doing most of the stuff?&lt;br /&gt;
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1st SFOD-D and Navy SEALs are, let's say, &amp;quot;equal&amp;quot; to Special Forces concerning their roles within US SOCOM. They are highly trained operators used for specific and &amp;quot;delicate&amp;quot; stuff. Rangers are more like muscless used for more &amp;quot;dirty&amp;quot; tasks. In reality, you would rather send a Special Forces A-Team to do cool things like - to recon the enemy airfield, to pin point potential high-value targets, to set observation post for calling CAS missions or to set sniping posts with 18B class operators with sniper rifles; while few C-130s packed with Ranger chalks would wait to &amp;quot;go-order&amp;quot; so they can jump in, do all the hard work and blow the enemy to pieces. Special Forces (Delta/SEALs etc.) are too valuable for such things. Even though, they are capable of kicking some serious ass, it is not practical to &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; several A- or SEAL teams for a task, which bunch of Ranger squads could do better.[Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
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okay thats true, but i just dont see why there wouldnt be SOME Operators or SEALs, think about this. Rangers are like the backbone of USSOCOM, Green Berets, are trained in Reconaissance, but if u want to kick some serious Taliban ass, u send in Operators or SEALs, because they excel at kickin' the door down, and opening up some whoop-ass. [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 00:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Who is the &amp;quot;Operators&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
::Delta &amp;quot;Operators&amp;quot;. [[User:Pz.Abt.100|Pz.Abt.100]] 22:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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but really, i no Delta is more of a mission specific unit, but seriously what is America's best military asset? 1stSFOD-D. why? because they have close to 500 Operators, the best in the world. and officially they dont exist. political bull shit in the way, no problemo. they dont exist. its denieble if you send them in.[[Special:Contributions/71.194.219.9|71.194.219.9]] 19:03, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guns revealed in multi-player demo at E3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
(These are just what I could spot while watching it on TV)&lt;br /&gt;
*Beretta 92FS/M9 (not a 92SB like in CoD, had the squared-off trigger guard)&lt;br /&gt;
*Pump-action shotgun I couldn't identify (they only showed it from the back)&lt;br /&gt;
*Bolt-action sniper rifle, presumably a Remington M24 (only saw it from the back and right side as the player was working the bolt)&lt;br /&gt;
*Not actually a new gun, but the M4A1 also had a low-profile front BUIS mounted on the RIS is some scenes&lt;br /&gt;
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If you check the kill feed immediately after the kill with the sniper rifle, the identifies the unknown rifle as a Sako M57. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I found some footage: http://videos.pcgames.de/v/MuuqC3iXMpw/Medal-of-Honor/Multiplayer-Gameplay-E3-2010/ (the shotgun is a TOZ-194)&lt;br /&gt;
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More confirmed weapons. I recommend you keep your eye to the left of the screen, below the radar, to see some weapons we have missed while watching the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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RPG 7-In-game footage&lt;br /&gt;
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AT-4 (I think by the ingame footage)&lt;br /&gt;
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M249 Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)&lt;br /&gt;
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MP7A1 This one was very hard to see (Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)&lt;br /&gt;
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== List ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm gonna put all the ones I've seen down, so we've got one big list (this is all from the 11 minute long multiplayer video, both seen on screen and on the killfeed) If the names are given (killfeed ones) I'm writing them exactly as they are named in game. For the ones that aren't named I'll name them what they are.&lt;br /&gt;
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M14 EBR (Seen in other videos. It is NOT the same as the M21 like it is in certain other games, the M21 has a normal M21 type body and stock, BOTH are in this.) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Spliting into sections ==&lt;br /&gt;
Wont it make sence to make two sections ? One with MP´s guns and one with SP´s guns. I think it will - because they dont use same engine, so guns can be different.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why would the single player and multiplayer use different engines? That makes no sense. It would make the modelers have to model everything twice, and take up twice as much space on disc. No. We're not going to do that.-protoAuthor 19:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure if i'm doing this right, but yes it uses different engines, and the modelers do not have to model everything twice, they can easily import it from a common format to both engine's formats, PSK Mesh (or something) for UT3, and a new version of bundledmesh contained in RES files for frostbite. You don't have to model it twice, you just export within both engines.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It still makes no sense to split up the page. But thank you for enlightening me to something that still makes no sense to me. Why would they do that?-protoAuthor 16:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The only reason i could possibly see would be to make a comparable multiplayer experience for BFBC2 players, And they might have already started building singleplayer on the unreal engine, which most if not all of the previous MoH games used. In my opinion, it shouldn't be split either, means some firearms would be listed twice. btw this isn't the original poster, this is the guy from the post before proto's last.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ok than. It doesnt have to be split, but there should be atlest writed to each screenshot &amp;quot; This is from Multiplayer/ Singleplayer&amp;quot;. And just one little '''BTW''': They modelled it twice. As you can see, M4 or MK46 '''''HAVE''''' different models.&lt;br /&gt;
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That's because the M4 and Mk. 46 are different guns, silly.-protoAuthor 04:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Heh. I mean that M4 looks different in SP and MP. Same with Mk.46&lt;br /&gt;
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They do look different but I think its just because one sets from that first trailer a while ago, game's graphics always get better as develpment keeps going, but you might be right to, I was just throwing that out there. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== LMG Special Weapons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the sniper class you get C4, in the special ops class you get a rocket, and with an assault rifle in the rifleman class you get a launcher... so what do you get if you equip an LMG? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 09:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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more ammo?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Absolutely nothing. You have 2 spare 150 round mags (in the beta, with the PK).&lt;br /&gt;
::You have self-destruct vest.&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that a joke or can you actually be a suicide bomber, cause what would the American gunners get? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is then? Okay cool, I figured but I wasn't sure, I can't check because the 360 beta was delayed :( [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== Best of 3 shooters? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to say, out of the 3 FPS games that will be coming out in Q4 (this one, Spec Ops: The Line, and CoD: Black Ops), I am looking forward to Medal of Honor the most. From what I've seen about the other two, they look like they're filled with sensationalist b.s. . -Any Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
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:MoH looks WAY to much like Bad Company 2, and I think it's EAs fault. They want to capitalize on the modern warfare craze so much, they're using another popular series to boost sales. To be honest, MOH looks like BC2 with Taliban, and I'll most likely not be getting it. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Medal of honor is not going to be way too much like BC2 because the gameplay will be much more tactical and realistic.  Like real modern warfare.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Says you man. Face it, it's going to be bought by the same type of people who buy MW2 and BC2, mostly idiot kids ranging from 10 to 15 who just wanna get four man sprays and noob tubes across the map. This is a console FPS that can be bought by anyone, and has nothing to offer that will make it overly unique, so it will end up like MW2 and BC2, noob weapons will arise, and it will just be another chaotic FPS. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Spec Ops: the Line is a third person shooter, not an FPS.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, my bad. I thought it was one of those deals like Fallout 3 where you could switch from first-to-third-person and back -Any Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
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== Animations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know this is off-topic, but am I the only one bothered by the way your character moves? If a gun is bouncing around in your hands while you move like that, there's gotta be something wrong...&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that only happens in multiplayer due to it being a different engine, but yeah it is weird&lt;br /&gt;
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I was really psyched about the game untill i found out it was made by the people who made BF-BD2. you said it was a different engine. does that mean that it will be different creators or what? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mp is made by BC2 (''not BD2'' ) creators - DICE. So it means only good part on that game will be SP - developed by EA on UT3 engine.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Full Auto M16A4 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wouldn't having an M16A4 on full auto make it a C7A1? I know there are a few other differences, but they're all internal, it's the only difference visible in some way. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well I would have said M16A3, but those didn't have rails. So yes, the only M16 variant that has an RIS system and goes full-auto is the C7A2, so indeed this new game uses a C7. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::M16A4 with FA lower - what could be easier&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I wouldn't call &amp;quot;full-auto&amp;quot; M16A4 a C7A2. C7A2 has some, more or less significant, differences - e.g. ambidextrous fire selector or retractable stock. Plus Canadian military did not use full length RIS systems (e.g. like King Arms M5 on M16A4) on their C7s. Full-auto M16A4 is just another game-developer inaccuracy created by lack of knowledge about firearms. Unfortunately, it's a trend in nowadays mainstream FPS like Modern Warfare or Battlefield Bad Company. Game developers just give a sh*t about this stuff. 13-year-old kids screaming and b*tching in multiplayer would not notice the difference. [Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
:: 3-burst is for nubs that can't cut it by themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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::The M5 RAS on the M16A4 is made by KAC, not King Arms. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course I realize that having it full auto is just a screw up, like in most movies, and I'm not talking about the C7A2, with the green furniture and ambi controls, I meant the C7A1, which is the same in terms of appearance. Here's one without an ELCAN, because I know someone will complain about that:&lt;br /&gt;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/7/76/20080716042205!C7A1_with_IronSights.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
Oh and you can put the KAC Rails on any M16-length AR, so that's not really an issue, some of the C7A1s (like the one pictured) had them put on before the C7A2 was introduced with the TRIAD. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It could be a C7, but really, it's just EA's lack of knowledge about weapons, cause full auto is what every assault rifle shoots, right? Man, games like Call of Duty 4 tried their best to keep weapons accurate, now it's all about tacticool weapons that fire full auto and have cool sights and nice finishes. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah I know, and guns don't need to be re-chambered after they run empty too :p in this and Bad Company 2, it's kind of distracting when I'm playing to be honest, well, I've gotten used to it a little more by now. Okay what I don't get is why can't it be listed as a C7A1? Or at least mentioned... If there was an gun listed as an M4 (not A1) and it was firing full auto you guys would have no problem saying it's actually an M4A1, or an AK-47 is really an AKM, so why can't the M16 really be a C7? I realize it's just a mistake on the developer's part, but that doesn't stop us pointing out the other ones... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:56, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it would be a good idea if we mentioned that in reality, this would class it as a C7A1 etc. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 18:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Has there even ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game? At any rate, I think just noting that it's inaccurately portrayed as full auto is enough. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto! But yeah, just classify the M16 in MOH as a C7A1, cause in reality that's what it is. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/1009334.page&lt;br /&gt;
Best 5 minutes of my life reading this! [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 20:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto!'' - Believe it or not, 4-position selectors for AR-15 type rifles exist.  There should be a link to the patent in the Season 2 discussion. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The so-called &amp;quot;Green Berets&amp;quot; on that show were idiot actors who didn't do their research, so I don't really give a crap about what they say. The M4A1 as used by the US military is safe/semi/auto, no burst. 4-pos selectors may exist, but the US military does not use them. That also wasn't an answer my question. ''Have there ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game?'' By &amp;quot;burst-firing M4&amp;quot;, I mean the M4 with M16A2/A4 trigger group as issued en mass to regular US Army troops. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I only know of two games that have M4s with the A2/A4 trigger group.  There's one of the Call of Duty Modern Warfare games for the Nintendo DS, and then there's the Battlefield 2 mod [[Project Reality]], where it features both burst-firing M4s for the Americans and full-auto M4A1s for the Israelis.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you, that ''did'' answer my question. Also, lol @the thread on EA Forums. That was a pretty entertaining read. Though I quite disagree with the guy who claims you can't know anything about an M16 or other firearm without having handled or used one. I've never handled an M16, but I still know the difference between an A1, A2, A3, and A4. Good thing I quit bothering with that place within the first few days I registered, otherwise I'd probably be ankle-deep in that ****storm. XD [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::To Hoot471, that forum nearly gave me a headsplosion, how can people be so unbelievably ignorant and stupid?! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi-Def MP videos ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You guys might want to check this out: On YouTube, there's someone by the name of deluxe345 who has Hi-Definition videos from the Medal of Honor multiplayer (there are 3 or 4). Also, in one of these videos, I spotted an M224 mortar in the killfeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==360 Beta?==&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, does anyone on Earth have a clue when the 360 beta for this comes out!? PS3 and PC went up June 21st, and yet 360 is still delayed, anyone got a clue? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I got deployed for deepwater horizon so no vid games till september. I seriously wish that the release had been on time, I could have played it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Clip/Magazine==&lt;br /&gt;
A frivolous debate, but why oh why must they call the magazines &amp;quot;clips&amp;quot; in the game? Yuck. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know why, but the same error happened in an episode in Lois &amp;amp; Clark. They probably got confused with clips and magazines since that they are both similar. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is nothing similar between a clip and a magazine. A Magazine is a block that stores the bullets, a clip is a strip of metal that holds the bullets that are then FED into a Magazine. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;The Catalyst&amp;quot; Linkin Park song trailer==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there gave been some new guns spotted and i already identified few of them. But can someone help me with this ?&lt;br /&gt;
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Magazine seems to wide and big for 5.56. I truly need help with this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Could it be the 417 ?&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure the MP5 is shown at one point in the trailer. I'd have to look at the trailer again to find the exact point, but I'll update when I do find the time stamp. Lets hope we see the MP5 in multiplayer as well as the campaign if my spot is correct.  Also, I'm pretty sure the picture shown above is just the M4A1, but I'm not 100%. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 22:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
1:30 seconds in, on the operator's chest. I am pretty sure that's an MP5A3 or A5. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 23:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That's M4 or might be h&amp;amp;k 416. Clip is just taped. Also, all this specop theme became too popularized after MW1. Don't like.&lt;br /&gt;
::It's called a Magazine or Mag. Don't like [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::After re-watching the video for the 17th or so time, the weapon I thought was the MP5 was just an MP7 that blended a little too well into the vest. That said, I did notice that one of the Rangers in the trailer was using an Aimpoint M68 (Comp M2) sight on his M4A1. Possibly another sight option? Who knows. I just know I'm excited for this game.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's an M4 kitted out with an EOTech 552, KAC Free-Float RAS, PEQ-2A, and KAC broomstick. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unimpressed....==&lt;br /&gt;
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Anybody else feel unimpressed looking at this game? I mean, nothing about it really stands out to me. The firearm selection is trite and cliche, the modern military tacticool spec ops motif has been done far too much, and so has the idea of weapon customization. Honestly, when I saw this game I just kinda yawned and moved on. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 19:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: About that firearms choose : So you would give terrorists XM8´s, just because its cliche in video games ? No. So why not give them weapons they use in real ?&lt;br /&gt;
        No I wouldn't, unless a terrorist militia could plausibly get it hand's on a bunch of HK weapons. I'm just sort of sick of seeing the same stuff over and over and over. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 09:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I actually see this as a good change from Modern Warfare and Bad Company rather than yet another tacticool game. Sure, most of it has been done, but so has most other games. At least its not YET another World War 2 sim.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 20:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)        &lt;br /&gt;
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But see, that's the whole thing. Instead of &amp;quot;yet another WW2 sim,&amp;quot; it's become &amp;quot;yet another Spec Ops shooter.&amp;quot; And for the record, I liked Bad Company, and I don't see how this will be any different. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 23:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am truly impressed with this game. Lets talk about it as MW2 on steroids : &lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Much more realistic''' ('' Cmon, Russians with tavors and milita with tactical AK´s ?'' )&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Much better atmosphere''' ( ''That attempt to make everything cool just failed. Also enviroment wasnt the best seriously'' )&lt;br /&gt;
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Then I better get this for my 360 then PC, cause the graphics are just as high as BC 2 so it'll mess with my PC. The Multiplayer was designed by the same guys who did Bad Company, so we see a lot of their handy work. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, comparing ANYTHING to MW2 instantly makes it better. And if what excalibur says is true, then I'm inclined to go with what everybody else has been saying and write it off as Bad Company 2 with Taliban. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 11:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: We are talking about SP. MP will be BC2 clone ( ''Yeah. Same people are doing it, why not then ?'' ).. But SP will be better :P&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah, I'd certainly be willing to try the single player if it looks any good. Not sure if I'd pay full release price for it though, I'll probably go out and buy it later on when it gets down to like 40 bucks. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just find it odd that they'd get a completely different group to do the multiplayer and when you look at the multiplayer, it feels like MW2 but with a different game engine. The point and level up system is essentially the same, but the classes are almost the same from Bad Company. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To be honest, I had high hopes for this game, but with the &amp;quot;Catalyst&amp;quot; trailer (overly dramatic acting plus ear-bleeding Linkin Park= FAIL), it just looks like something else that fanboys will be able to wax their carrots to. Ain't no way in hell I'm shelling out $60 just to hear some USI-infested teenager (whose gamertag is  [USMC]&amp;quot;xxSwaggaSniperxx&amp;quot; or something else that sounds mall ninja-ish) cuss me out after I've killed him twice in a row.[[Special:Contributions/74.192.58.206|74.192.58.206]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I watched said trailer and completely gave up on this game. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 09:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dragunov ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where did it come from that the NDM-86 is in 7.62x51mm? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Look at the mag in the weapon selection screen shot. It's clearly not the Dragunov's standard mag and a straight 7.62x51mm mag. I agree with whoever did the change that it's the NDM-86. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 13:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, i have done it. And it doesnt have anything to do with 7.62x51, its actually standart .308 winchester. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Last I checked, the .308 was the civilian version of the 7.62 NATO. So in other words, it's the same round for the purposes of this discussion. Don't mean to sound rude or anything, just something to think about. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 14:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: ( ''Wow, so many &amp;quot;''':'''&amp;quot; symbols'' ) Well, .308 is more powerfull i think. But whatever - Im glad someone agrees that NDM-86 is there. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::It's the same basic round, 7.62 NATO is just loaded to a higher pressure than civilian .308, I think. But I now see what you mean about the mag. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==New Sidearms confirmed!==&lt;br /&gt;
New article reviled.&lt;br /&gt;
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SF has a Glock.&lt;br /&gt;
Ranger has the M9.&lt;br /&gt;
And someone we havent seen named Rabbit Has a Sig. Navy Seal im guessing&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;When you play as &amp;quot;Rabbit&amp;quot; you carry a Sig. When you play as &amp;quot;Deuce&amp;quot; you carry a Glock. And when you are Dante Adams you carry the M9. These weapons can never be dropped, never run out of ammunition, and are an integral part of each character’s identity. The variety in these side arms is also intended to help give distinction and personality to each of the characters represented in &amp;quot;Neptune&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Wolfpack&amp;quot; and 1/75th Ranger&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:I have two things to say about that. One, I'm happy I wont have to look at an M9 throughout the campaign. Two, I hope they allow you to pick which pistol you use in mp since it'd effectively wouldn't change the balance at all. Just allow more individualism to the players. Did I mention I'm really tired of seeing the M9 in my games?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Like most games the handguns will have different powers even if they're the same caliber, I'm betting. At least in Multiplayer anyways. Because in the level up screen you can see a level up sidearm section. And I'm hopeing only pistol are sidearms. Unlike modern 2 which had Shotguns and Machine pistols, which unbalanced the game&lt;br /&gt;
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==Knife?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I watched the &amp;quot;Leave a Message&amp;quot; trailer recently. I think one of the Rangers had a Gerber LMF II knife attached to his MOLLE vest. I own this same knife which is why it caught my eye.&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe so, but we need to avoid putting knives down. Yes, the MW2 page as well as some others have knives, but I'm in favor of removing said knives from said pages entirely. The site is called Internet Movie '''Firearms''' Database for a reason. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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When will 360 beta be out? I keep hearing within a week but have seen no announcements by the company.&lt;br /&gt;
:http://twitter.com/medalofhonor&lt;br /&gt;
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Both links failed, and im getting pissed waiting, gives you high hopes for the games multiplayer when a short beta is this delayed......&lt;br /&gt;
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I heard somewhere they're going to run it after they fix the bugs from the PS3/PC Betas, after they're done, because it will allow them to find new problems and because it saves money. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i just saw the 12 round beretta mentioned  i think they did that for balance reasons. Another game too focused on fairness. God forbid you unlock a gun later on that just owns. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah its kind of annoying when its that balanced, at least you could pretend its the .40, but I wouldn't even know what to do with the Grach, its named the Tariq (which is something else) and has 12 rounds too, when its supposed to have 17. Wait, couldn't they both just have been 16 to be in between? If I WAS going to make an overly balanced system like this, I'd try to make it close, why take them both down to 12? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Pretend it's the .40 too&lt;br /&gt;
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Haha too bad there isn't one... WAIT! If you really want to stretch it you could pretend its the compact MP-448, 12 rounds of 9x18mm lol :D [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I hate when the do something like &amp;quot;the m4 has 20 power and 30 fire rate, the AK has 30 power and 20 fire rate, so there balanced. Then they go weapon x is more accurate than weapon y since its weaker and needs an advantage. I wish when you leveled up you had guns with good advantages that just own.&lt;br /&gt;
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I want a game that keeps the round in the chamber, keeps track of your extra mags (not the one big number bullshit), all the functions to be right, none of the guns to be set in a firing mode they're not in, the ability to switch modes to whatever that weapon has, the correct attachments (no AKs with ACOGs, or M14s and G3s with M203s), the correct animations for reloads, correct fire rates, correct mag capacities, correct zooms on scopes and no zoom on reflex sights/irons sights, its not really too much to ask I don't think. The only thing that would be arguable would be damage stuff does, but for the MOST part if you used the calibre measurement as the damage it would work (i.e. 5.56mm does  about 22 damage, 7.62mm does 30, .50 does 50) it's not perfect but I at least want the guns with the same calibres to do the same damage... Rant done. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a game for you, it's called ArmA. Mainstream arcadey FPS won't have all these features. But I agree at least counting bullet up the pipe would be nice touch. That always bugged me too. I have no idea why CoD games still doesn't have this. Anyway, ACOG (or any other weaver optic) on AK is not a problem via special mount. 203 on G3 and M14 is possible too.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh believe me, I wouldn't need ALL that, I still play the mainstream FPSs, it would just be nice, I just kept going with the list ;) And I do know you can technically put an ACOG on an AK or a 203 on the M14 or G3, but it would be nice to see the things that are supposed to be there... there, like the HK79. The attachments thing certainly wouldn't be as important to me as the round in the chamber, and I don't think guns of the same calibre having the same damage would be too much, its not that would take any extra effort... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same caliber doesn't always do same damage when shot from different barrels. M16 and M4 is a good example. In case with M16 bullet tumble and fragment thus making more damage, but when the same ammo shot from M4 it does not.&lt;br /&gt;
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I knew that but didn't want to make my posts too long ;)That's fair, I meant more the stuff that doesn't make sense, like a 12 gauge that does more damage than another 12 gauge because it's pump action vs semi-auto, or like in Modern Warfare 2, which is the game I'm mostly complaning about, the F2000 has a 15.7&amp;quot; barrel and does 30 damage, while the TAR-21 has an 18.1&amp;quot; does 40, I know the idea of damage as a numerical system like this isn't realistic in a lot of ways, but it's the best anyone has been able to come up with so far, and I wouldn't think 2.4 inches of barrel would make that much of a difference. Put it this way, out of the 9 assault rifles in that game there are only 3 different damages, the 30, 40, and 55, keep in mind that the calibres here are 5.56, 7.62, and 7.62 NATO: the M4, ACR, and F2000 do 30, the FAMAS, SCAR, TAR-21, M16A4, and AK-47 do the same (lol what?) at 40, and the FAL does a whopping 55 (because its semi). But the single worst is the UMP and Super V, both .45s with a comparible barrel length, the UMP does 40 (again) and the the Super V does... 25. I know there should be differences but this makes NO SENSE. Sorry, I know this is the Medal Of Honor page, but everyone here seems smarter... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not a simulator. They needed to differentiate gun's performance. Besides, most people playing it doesn't know shit which caliber it shoots. So probably it's better to just get over it. Try playing hardcore mode and weapon damage won't bother you so much.&lt;br /&gt;
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I know :) it doesn't really matter too much, it would just be nice, but I'm not expecting it though lol [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 06:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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seriously, no 1911 very disapointing. it might be outdated but Special Forces still use them. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said there won't be a 1911 in the final game? This isn't the final game. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i dont know. i just figured since its not on the page already they wouldnt have it. but i hope they do. its a great gun and is used by Spec Ops. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i think that all the comparisons come from MW2 because it has an overwhelming amount of flaws. for example- what has been previously stated. and does anyone else find it peculiar that all assault rifles lose the front sight when optics are attached? knowone would do that its stupid. what if there was a long battle and you ran out of battery on a dime, nope your dead now. and i kind of agree with the lack of a back sight because it takes away the point of the reflex being quick if you have to line 3 things to a target instead of the 1-2 or a normal rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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==First Part==&lt;br /&gt;
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This game looks very promising in terms of realism and graphics compared to the other games.  I'm excited to see that the game developers are working with REAL special forces operators.  The game comes out in Fall 2010.  CAN'T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!!!- ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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I've always had a soft spot with this series. I really hope they knock it out of the park with this one. &lt;br /&gt;
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I'm guessing the guy on the front cover is a Green Beret?-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:For some reason I though the guy on the front page was a PMC --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Na he is a Green Beret.  That's the way they look when they are in a combat zone.  They have to grow out a beard and dress like the civilians/insurgents in that particular area.-ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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A World War II shooter series is switching to a modern setting? It'll never work.&lt;br /&gt;
:Your kidding right...and sign your posts --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:25, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The graphics appear to be on par with ''[[America's Army 3]]'', though hopefully it'll have less problems and a better weapon selection. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The trailer had what looked like an [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW]] variant fitted with an EOTech red dot sight, but I only saw it for a second looking down the sights in first-person mode so couldn't determine wether it was a standard SAW or specialized version like the Paratrooper or [[FN Minimi#FN Minimi SPW|SPW]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a screen of the M4A1 and the Minimi/SAw possibilty.  --[[User:TheCrazyGunNut|TheCrazyGunNut]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah, cheap EA.. This is so obvious that they are doing this because of MW success. Won't buy just because of this fact.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or because WWII has been overdone and they wanted to do something else. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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20th century saw so many wars. They could pick any one. The most suitable would be Vietnam war. I can't recall many good games about this conflict. It could be about SF also.&lt;br /&gt;
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How about Vietcong? http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Vietcong In my personal oppinion the best PC game from Vietnam conflict up to date. I know that the Vietcong wasn't perfect but other games usually wasted their potential (e.g. Conflict Vietnam, Men of Valor) ended as a low quality budget (first Shellshock 67 and many others) or as some crazy VC/NVA-zombie kill fest (recent Shellshock 2). &lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that there were many other &amp;quot;interesting&amp;quot; conflicts or suitable theathers for FPS games but &amp;quot;supply is influenced by demand&amp;quot;. The &amp;quot;anti-terrorist&amp;quot; theme is actual and developers don't want to risk introducing a game that &amp;quot;nobody would want to play&amp;quot;. Remember it's all about the money. Actually it's quite strange that if I look backwards I can't recall any good or partially realistic FPS from Afganistan or Iraq theatre - Modern Warefare, appart from other parts of the story, was set partialy in the Middle East but in some fictisious country (and that *** spoliler *** nuking of the whole Marine division *** spoiler *** was complete bullshit) and Modern Warefare 2 was about hunting down some crazy Russian ultranationalists (and *** spoiler *** one rouge American general *** spoiler *** that was bullshit as well). No offence to Call of Duty but I personally hope that Medal of Honor would not turn into such killfest of stupid AI NPC duchebags thrown in absolutely ridiculous waves into a single coridor where you have to kill more than 70 opponents on less than 100 square feet ...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wow, so doing something original is bullshit? I mean, come on; I'd rather shoot 70 guys in a single cooridor than simply go from cave to cave, shooting the occasional militant, or riding about in my vehicle until I hit a bomb and get ambushed. Generic examples I know, but put simply, fighting a military-trained, fully-equipped soldier is a lot more exciting than some fanatical militant using 30-year-old weapons. Heck, even America's Army created a fictional enemy for the US Army to fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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Judging by what I'm seeing in the trailer this is going to be far from any CoD style of modern warfare. This shit looks seriously hardcore in terms of trying to replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully by then they fix the damn gas block thing. Fuck that pisses me off. These guys are working with tier 1 operators but they don't want to model the damn gun correctly. Anybody with even slight knowledge of an AR-15 platform would notice this error. It's a big frickin error.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::&amp;quot;replicate actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay&amp;quot;? So coalition forces playing in a sandbox there? And duh, there is a gas-block, it's just too low-profile and you cannot see it.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Even if the gas block isn't there, does it really matter? The average gamer probably doesn't know, or care, what a gas block is, let alone whether it's actually there or not; and the Medal of Honor series goes for what looks cool (such as the Flak Tower in Airborne), not what's realistic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't change the intent of my words. Let me rephrase :::&amp;quot;replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan fighting into gameplay.&amp;quot; There happy? As well the use of a low profile gas block seems like an excuse. What are the chances that every M4 has a low profile gas block when there are attached optics?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why not? It's a game about hi-speed low-drag tear1 omfgd3ltasealz special forces operators.&lt;br /&gt;
::::That's ''Tier'' 1. And even a low-profile gas block would still be visible on the barrel where the standard FSP would be due to the length of the gas tube. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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North American release date is October 12, 2010. Europe is October 15.-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpgNJZ8Fhc&amp;amp;playnext_from=TL&amp;amp;videos=vd-xeQ7FyHw&lt;br /&gt;
^ At 0:56, 1:04, 1:16 you can see a stock, body, and barrel of a M14 EBR.&lt;br /&gt;
At O:43 you can see what I believe to be some kind of M240.*EDIT: Mk 46 Mod 0* &lt;br /&gt;
All along the trailer are M4s with optics and different accessories. -DeltaOp&lt;br /&gt;
:Was the Mark 14 EBR even fielded yet in 2002? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Nope. EBR was designed around that date - 2001/2002 but first units (mostly from Navy Seals) were issued this rifle later on in 2004. So it's probably another game inaccuracy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said it was set in 2002? And the gas block isn't removed for optics like in Call Of Duty, it's removed when the M203's flip up sight is on top, I'm thinking it's not to block that, not that I think it would block it, but that's when it's not there, not because of optics. EDIT: Wow my bad, it is set then, and I was thinking the M203 was an attachment, but its fixed on like in BFBC2, wow, I feel dumb lol. EDIT #2: I figured it out, the M16 removes the front sight for optics, but the M4 doesn't. Odd. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Green Beret on cover ==&lt;br /&gt;
It's ''Cowboy''! [http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/03/news-bearded-guy-on-medal-of-honor-cover-is-real.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lmao. Oh i didnt think of that one. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone think its kinda odd that the Rangers seem to be doing alot of the work. along with the Green Beret. Wouldnt Delta Force/Navy SEALs be doing most of the stuff?&lt;br /&gt;
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1st SFOD-D and Navy SEALs are, let's say, &amp;quot;equal&amp;quot; to Special Forces concerning their roles within US SOCOM. They are highly trained operators used for specific and &amp;quot;delicate&amp;quot; stuff. Rangers are more like muscless used for more &amp;quot;dirty&amp;quot; tasks. In reality, you would rather send a Special Forces A-Team to do cool things like - to recon the enemy airfield, to pin point potential high-value targets, to set observation post for calling CAS missions or to set sniping posts with 18B class operators with sniper rifles; while few C-130s packed with Ranger chalks would wait to &amp;quot;go-order&amp;quot; so they can jump in, do all the hard work and blow the enemy to pieces. Special Forces (Delta/SEALs etc.) are too valuable for such things. Even though, they are capable of kicking some serious ass, it is not practical to &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; several A- or SEAL teams for a task, which bunch of Ranger squads could do better.[Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
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okay thats true, but i just dont see why there wouldnt be SOME Operators or SEALs, think about this. Rangers are like the backbone of USSOCOM, Green Berets, are trained in Reconaissance, but if u want to kick some serious Taliban ass, u send in Operators or SEALs, because they excel at kickin' the door down, and opening up some whoop-ass. [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 00:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Who is the &amp;quot;Operators&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
::Delta &amp;quot;Operators&amp;quot;. [[User:Pz.Abt.100|Pz.Abt.100]] 22:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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but really, i no Delta is more of a mission specific unit, but seriously what is America's best military asset? 1stSFOD-D. why? because they have close to 500 Operators, the best in the world. and officially they dont exist. political bull shit in the way, no problemo. they dont exist. its denieble if you send them in.[[Special:Contributions/71.194.219.9|71.194.219.9]] 19:03, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guns revealed in multi-player demo at E3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Beretta 92FS/M9 (not a 92SB like in CoD, had the squared-off trigger guard)&lt;br /&gt;
*Pump-action shotgun I couldn't identify (they only showed it from the back)&lt;br /&gt;
*Bolt-action sniper rifle, presumably a Remington M24 (only saw it from the back and right side as the player was working the bolt)&lt;br /&gt;
*Not actually a new gun, but the M4A1 also had a low-profile front BUIS mounted on the RIS is some scenes&lt;br /&gt;
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If you check the kill feed immediately after the kill with the sniper rifle, the identifies the unknown rifle as a Sako M57. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I found some footage: http://videos.pcgames.de/v/MuuqC3iXMpw/Medal-of-Honor/Multiplayer-Gameplay-E3-2010/ (the shotgun is a TOZ-194)&lt;br /&gt;
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More confirmed weapons. I recommend you keep your eye to the left of the screen, below the radar, to see some weapons we have missed while watching the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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RPG 7-In-game footage&lt;br /&gt;
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== List ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm gonna put all the ones I've seen down, so we've got one big list (this is all from the 11 minute long multiplayer video, both seen on screen and on the killfeed) If the names are given (killfeed ones) I'm writing them exactly as they are named in game. For the ones that aren't named I'll name them what they are.&lt;br /&gt;
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M16&lt;br /&gt;
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SVD (NOTE: Has a straight .308 magazine)&lt;br /&gt;
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MP-443 (NOTE: Appears as the Tariq, which I thought that was an Iraqi-made Beretta clone...)&lt;br /&gt;
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RPK&lt;br /&gt;
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M14 EBR (Seen in other videos. It is NOT the same as the M21 like it is in certain other games, the M21 has a normal M21 type body and stock, BOTH are in this.) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Spliting into sections ==&lt;br /&gt;
Wont it make sence to make two sections ? One with MP´s guns and one with SP´s guns. I think it will - because they dont use same engine, so guns can be different.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why would the single player and multiplayer use different engines? That makes no sense. It would make the modelers have to model everything twice, and take up twice as much space on disc. No. We're not going to do that.-protoAuthor 19:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It '''USES''' different engines. MP is running on frostbite, and SP is running on UT3 one.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure if i'm doing this right, but yes it uses different engines, and the modelers do not have to model everything twice, they can easily import it from a common format to both engine's formats, PSK Mesh (or something) for UT3, and a new version of bundledmesh contained in RES files for frostbite. You don't have to model it twice, you just export within both engines.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It still makes no sense to split up the page. But thank you for enlightening me to something that still makes no sense to me. Why would they do that?-protoAuthor 16:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The only reason i could possibly see would be to make a comparable multiplayer experience for BFBC2 players, And they might have already started building singleplayer on the unreal engine, which most if not all of the previous MoH games used. In my opinion, it shouldn't be split either, means some firearms would be listed twice. btw this isn't the original poster, this is the guy from the post before proto's last.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ok than. It doesnt have to be split, but there should be atlest writed to each screenshot &amp;quot; This is from Multiplayer/ Singleplayer&amp;quot;. And just one little '''BTW''': They modelled it twice. As you can see, M4 or MK46 '''''HAVE''''' different models.&lt;br /&gt;
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That's because the M4 and Mk. 46 are different guns, silly.-protoAuthor 04:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Heh. I mean that M4 looks different in SP and MP. Same with Mk.46&lt;br /&gt;
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They do look different but I think its just because one sets from that first trailer a while ago, game's graphics always get better as develpment keeps going, but you might be right to, I was just throwing that out there. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== LMG Special Weapons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the sniper class you get C4, in the special ops class you get a rocket, and with an assault rifle in the rifleman class you get a launcher... so what do you get if you equip an LMG? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 09:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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more ammo?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Absolutely nothing. You have 2 spare 150 round mags (in the beta, with the PK).&lt;br /&gt;
::You have self-destruct vest.&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that a joke or can you actually be a suicide bomber, cause what would the American gunners get? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:C4&lt;br /&gt;
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It is then? Okay cool, I figured but I wasn't sure, I can't check because the 360 beta was delayed :( [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== Best of 3 shooters? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to say, out of the 3 FPS games that will be coming out in Q4 (this one, Spec Ops: The Line, and CoD: Black Ops), I am looking forward to Medal of Honor the most. From what I've seen about the other two, they look like they're filled with sensationalist b.s. . -Any Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
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:MoH looks WAY to much like Bad Company 2, and I think it's EAs fault. They want to capitalize on the modern warfare craze so much, they're using another popular series to boost sales. To be honest, MOH looks like BC2 with Taliban, and I'll most likely not be getting it. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Medal of honor is not going to be way too much like BC2 because the gameplay will be much more tactical and realistic.  Like real modern warfare.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Says you man. Face it, it's going to be bought by the same type of people who buy MW2 and BC2, mostly idiot kids ranging from 10 to 15 who just wanna get four man sprays and noob tubes across the map. This is a console FPS that can be bought by anyone, and has nothing to offer that will make it overly unique, so it will end up like MW2 and BC2, noob weapons will arise, and it will just be another chaotic FPS. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
:You got a point there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Spec Ops: the Line is a third person shooter, not an FPS.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, my bad. I thought it was one of those deals like Fallout 3 where you could switch from first-to-third-person and back -Any Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
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== Animations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know this is off-topic, but am I the only one bothered by the way your character moves? If a gun is bouncing around in your hands while you move like that, there's gotta be something wrong...&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that only happens in multiplayer due to it being a different engine, but yeah it is weird&lt;br /&gt;
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I was really psyched about the game untill i found out it was made by the people who made BF-BD2. you said it was a different engine. does that mean that it will be different creators or what? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mp is made by BC2 (''not BD2'' ) creators - DICE. So it means only good part on that game will be SP - developed by EA on UT3 engine.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Full Auto M16A4 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wouldn't having an M16A4 on full auto make it a C7A1? I know there are a few other differences, but they're all internal, it's the only difference visible in some way. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well I would have said M16A3, but those didn't have rails. So yes, the only M16 variant that has an RIS system and goes full-auto is the C7A2, so indeed this new game uses a C7. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::M16A4 with FA lower - what could be easier&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I wouldn't call &amp;quot;full-auto&amp;quot; M16A4 a C7A2. C7A2 has some, more or less significant, differences - e.g. ambidextrous fire selector or retractable stock. Plus Canadian military did not use full length RIS systems (e.g. like King Arms M5 on M16A4) on their C7s. Full-auto M16A4 is just another game-developer inaccuracy created by lack of knowledge about firearms. Unfortunately, it's a trend in nowadays mainstream FPS like Modern Warfare or Battlefield Bad Company. Game developers just give a sh*t about this stuff. 13-year-old kids screaming and b*tching in multiplayer would not notice the difference. [Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
:: 3-burst is for nubs that can't cut it by themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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::The M5 RAS on the M16A4 is made by KAC, not King Arms. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course I realize that having it full auto is just a screw up, like in most movies, and I'm not talking about the C7A2, with the green furniture and ambi controls, I meant the C7A1, which is the same in terms of appearance. Here's one without an ELCAN, because I know someone will complain about that:&lt;br /&gt;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/7/76/20080716042205!C7A1_with_IronSights.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
Oh and you can put the KAC Rails on any M16-length AR, so that's not really an issue, some of the C7A1s (like the one pictured) had them put on before the C7A2 was introduced with the TRIAD. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It could be a C7, but really, it's just EA's lack of knowledge about weapons, cause full auto is what every assault rifle shoots, right? Man, games like Call of Duty 4 tried their best to keep weapons accurate, now it's all about tacticool weapons that fire full auto and have cool sights and nice finishes. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah I know, and guns don't need to be re-chambered after they run empty too :p in this and Bad Company 2, it's kind of distracting when I'm playing to be honest, well, I've gotten used to it a little more by now. Okay what I don't get is why can't it be listed as a C7A1? Or at least mentioned... If there was an gun listed as an M4 (not A1) and it was firing full auto you guys would have no problem saying it's actually an M4A1, or an AK-47 is really an AKM, so why can't the M16 really be a C7? I realize it's just a mistake on the developer's part, but that doesn't stop us pointing out the other ones... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:56, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it would be a good idea if we mentioned that in reality, this would class it as a C7A1 etc. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 18:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Has there even ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game? At any rate, I think just noting that it's inaccurately portrayed as full auto is enough. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto! But yeah, just classify the M16 in MOH as a C7A1, cause in reality that's what it is. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/1009334.page&lt;br /&gt;
Best 5 minutes of my life reading this! [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 20:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto!'' - Believe it or not, 4-position selectors for AR-15 type rifles exist.  There should be a link to the patent in the Season 2 discussion. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The so-called &amp;quot;Green Berets&amp;quot; on that show were idiot actors who didn't do their research, so I don't really give a crap about what they say. The M4A1 as used by the US military is safe/semi/auto, no burst. 4-pos selectors may exist, but the US military does not use them. That also wasn't an answer my question. ''Have there ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game?'' By &amp;quot;burst-firing M4&amp;quot;, I mean the M4 with M16A2/A4 trigger group as issued en mass to regular US Army troops. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I only know of two games that have M4s with the A2/A4 trigger group.  There's one of the Call of Duty Modern Warfare games for the Nintendo DS, and then there's the Battlefield 2 mod [[Project Reality]], where it features both burst-firing M4s for the Americans and full-auto M4A1s for the Israelis.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you, that ''did'' answer my question. Also, lol @the thread on EA Forums. That was a pretty entertaining read. Though I quite disagree with the guy who claims you can't know anything about an M16 or other firearm without having handled or used one. I've never handled an M16, but I still know the difference between an A1, A2, A3, and A4. Good thing I quit bothering with that place within the first few days I registered, otherwise I'd probably be ankle-deep in that ****storm. XD [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::To Hoot471, that forum nearly gave me a headsplosion, how can people be so unbelievably ignorant and stupid?! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi-Def MP videos ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You guys might want to check this out: On YouTube, there's someone by the name of deluxe345 who has Hi-Definition videos from the Medal of Honor multiplayer (there are 3 or 4). Also, in one of these videos, I spotted an M224 mortar in the killfeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==360 Beta?==&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, does anyone on Earth have a clue when the 360 beta for this comes out!? PS3 and PC went up June 21st, and yet 360 is still delayed, anyone got a clue? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I got deployed for deepwater horizon so no vid games till september. I seriously wish that the release had been on time, I could have played it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Clip/Magazine==&lt;br /&gt;
A frivolous debate, but why oh why must they call the magazines &amp;quot;clips&amp;quot; in the game? Yuck. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know why, but the same error happened in an episode in Lois &amp;amp; Clark. They probably got confused with clips and magazines since that they are both similar. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is nothing similar between a clip and a magazine. A Magazine is a block that stores the bullets, a clip is a strip of metal that holds the bullets that are then FED into a Magazine. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;The Catalyst&amp;quot; Linkin Park song trailer==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there gave been some new guns spotted and i already identified few of them. But can someone help me with this ?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MOHUNKNOWNGUN.JPG|500px|thumb|center|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Magazine seems to wide and big for 5.56. I truly need help with this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Could it be the 417 ?&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure the MP5 is shown at one point in the trailer. I'd have to look at the trailer again to find the exact point, but I'll update when I do find the time stamp. Lets hope we see the MP5 in multiplayer as well as the campaign if my spot is correct.  Also, I'm pretty sure the picture shown above is just the M4A1, but I'm not 100%. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 22:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
1:30 seconds in, on the operator's chest. I am pretty sure that's an MP5A3 or A5. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 23:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That's M4 or might be h&amp;amp;k 416. Clip is just taped. Also, all this specop theme became too popularized after MW1. Don't like.&lt;br /&gt;
::It's called a Magazine or Mag. Don't like [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::After re-watching the video for the 17th or so time, the weapon I thought was the MP5 was just an MP7 that blended a little too well into the vest. That said, I did notice that one of the Rangers in the trailer was using an Aimpoint M68 (Comp M2) sight on his M4A1. Possibly another sight option? Who knows. I just know I'm excited for this game.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's an M4 kitted out with an EOTech 552, KAC Free-Float RAS, PEQ-2A, and KAC broomstick. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unimpressed...==&lt;br /&gt;
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Anybody else feel unimpressed looking at this game? I mean, nothing about it really stands out to me. The firearm selection is trite and cliche, the modern military tacticool spec ops motif has been done far too much, and so has the idea of weapon customization. Honestly, when I saw this game I just kinda yawned and moved on. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 19:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: About that firearms choose : So you would give terrorists XM8´s, just because its cliche in video games ? No. So why not give them weapons they use in real ?&lt;br /&gt;
:I actually see this as a good change from Modern Warfare and Bad Company rather than yet another tacticool game. Sure, most of it has been done, but so has most other games. At least its not YET another World War 2 sim.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 20:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But see, that's the whole thing. Instead of &amp;quot;yet another WW2 sim,&amp;quot; it's become &amp;quot;yet another Spec Ops shooter.&amp;quot; And for the record, I liked Bad Company, and I don't see how this will be any different. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 23:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am truly impressed with this game. Lets talk about it as MW2 on steroids : &lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Much more realistic''' ('' Cmon, Russians with tavors and milita with tactical AK´s ?'' )&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Much better atmosphere''' ( ''That attempt to make everything cool just failed. Also enviroment wasnt the best seriously'' )&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Better Gameplay''' ( ''It probably wont be just about shooting thousands of enemy troops. Also helicopter. Probably even some AI will be included ?'' )&lt;br /&gt;
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Then I better get this for my 360 then PC, cause the graphics are just as high as BC 2 so it'll mess with my PC. The Multiplayer was designed by the same guys who did Bad Company, so we see a lot of their handy work. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, comparing ANYTHING to MW2 instantly makes it better. And if what excalibur says is true, then I'm inclined to go with what everybody else has been saying and write it off as Bad Company 2 with Taliban. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 11:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: We are talking about SP. MP will be BC2 clone ( ''Yeah. Same people are doing it, why not then ?'' ).. But SP will be better :P&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah, I'd certainly be willing to try the single player if it looks any good. Not sure if I'd pay full release price for it though, I'll probably go out and buy it later on when it gets down to like 40 bucks. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just find it odd that they'd get a completely different group to do the multiplayer and when you look at the multiplayer, it feels like MW2 but with a different game engine. The point and level up system is essentially the same, but the classes are almost the same from Bad Company. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To be honest, I had high hopes for this game, but with the &amp;quot;Catalyst&amp;quot; trailer (overly dramatic acting plus ear-bleeding Linkin Park= FAIL), it just looks like something else that fanboys will be able to wax their carrots to. Ain't no way in hell I'm shelling out $60 just to hear some USI-infested teenager (whose gamertag is  [USMC]&amp;quot;xxSwaggaSniperxx&amp;quot; or something else that sounds mall ninja-ish) cuss me out after I've killed him twice in a row.[[Special:Contributions/74.192.58.206|74.192.58.206]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dragunov ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where did it come from that the NDM-86 is in 7.62x51mm? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Oh, wait, what ?&lt;br /&gt;
::Look at the mag in the weapon selection screen shot. It's clearly not the Dragunov's standard mag and a straight 7.62x51mm mag. I agree with whoever did the change that it's the NDM-86. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 13:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, i have done it. And it doesnt have anything to do with 7.62x51, its actually standart .308 winchester. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Last I checked, the .308 was the civilian version of the 7.62 NATO. So in other words, it's the same round for the purposes of this discussion. Don't mean to sound rude or anything, just something to think about. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 14:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: ( ''Wow, so many &amp;quot;''':'''&amp;quot; symbols'' ) Well, .308 is more powerfull i think. But whatever - Im glad someone agrees that NDM-86 is there. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==New Sidearms confirmed!==&lt;br /&gt;
New article reviled.&lt;br /&gt;
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SF has a Glock.&lt;br /&gt;
Ranger has the M9.&lt;br /&gt;
And someone we havent seen named Rabbit Has a Sig. Navy Seal im guessing&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;When you play as &amp;quot;Rabbit&amp;quot; you carry a Sig. When you play as &amp;quot;Deuce&amp;quot; you carry a Glock. And when you are Dante Adams you carry the M9. These weapons can never be dropped, never run out of ammunition, and are an integral part of each character’s identity. The variety in these side arms is also intended to help give distinction and personality to each of the characters represented in &amp;quot;Neptune&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Wolfpack&amp;quot; and 1/75th Ranger&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Knife?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I watched the &amp;quot;Leave a Message&amp;quot; trailer recently. I think one of the Rangers had a Gerber LMF II knife attached to his MOLLE vest. I own this same knife which is why it caught my eye.&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe so, but we need to avoid putting knives down. Yes, the MW2 page as well as some others have knives, but I'm in favor of removing said knives from said pages entirely. The site is called Internet Movie '''Firearms''' Database for a reason. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Both links failed, and im getting pissed waiting, gives you high hopes for the games multiplayer when a short beta is this delayed......&lt;br /&gt;
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I heard somewhere they're going to run it after they fix the bugs from the PS3/PC Betas, after they're done, because it will allow them to find new problems and because it saves money. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah its kind of annoying when its that balanced, at least you could pretend its the .40, but I wouldn't even know what to do with the Grach, its named the Tariq (which is something else) and has 12 rounds too, when its supposed to have 17. Wait, couldn't they both just have been 16 to be in between? If I WAS going to make an overly balanced system like this, I'd try to make it close, why take them both down to 12? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Haha too bad there isn't one... WAIT! If you really want to stretch it you could pretend its the compact MP-448, 12 rounds of 9x18mm lol :D [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I hate when the do something like &amp;quot;the m4 has 20 power and 30 fire rate, the AK has 30 power and 20 fire rate, so there balanced. Then they go weapon x is more accurate than weapon y since its weaker and needs an advantage. I wish when you leveled up you had guns with good advantages that just own.&lt;br /&gt;
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I want a game that keeps the round in the chamber, keeps track of your extra mags (not the one big number bullshit), all the functions to be right, none of the guns to be set in a firing mode they're not in, the ability to switch modes to whatever that weapon has, the correct attachments (no AKs with ACOGs, or M14s and G3s with M203s), the correct animations for reloads, correct fire rates, correct mag capacities, correct zooms on scopes and no zoom on reflex sights/irons sights, its not really too much to ask I don't think. The only thing that would be arguable would be damage stuff does, but for the MOST part if you used the calibre measurement as the damage it would work (i.e. 5.56mm does  about 22 damage, 7.62mm does 30, .50 does 50) it's not perfect but I at least want the guns with the same calibres to do the same damage... Rant done. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a game for you, it's called ArmA. Mainstream arcadey FPS won't have all these features. But I agree at least counting bullet up the pipe would be nice touch. That always bugged me too. I have no idea why CoD games still doesn't have this. Anyway, ACOG (or any other weaver optic) on AK is not a problem via special mount. 203 on G3 and M14 is possible too.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh believe me, I wouldn't need ALL that, I still play the mainstream FPSs, it would just be nice, I just kept going with the list ;) And I do know you can technically put an ACOG on an AK or a 203 on the M14 or G3, but it would be nice to see the things that are supposed to be there... there, like the HK79. The attachments thing certainly wouldn't be as important to me as the round in the chamber, and I don't think guns of the same calibre having the same damage would be too much, its not that would take any extra effort... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same caliber doesn't always do same damage when shot from different barrels. M16 and M4 is a good example. In case with M16 bullet tumble and fragment thus making more damage, but when the same ammo shot from M4 it does not.&lt;br /&gt;
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I knew that but didn't want to make my posts too long ;)That's fair, I meant more the stuff that doesn't make sense, like a 12 gauge that does more damage than another 12 gauge because it's pump action vs semi-auto, or like in Modern Warfare 2, which is the game I'm mostly complaning about, the F2000 has a 15.7&amp;quot; barrel and does 30 damage, while the TAR-21 has an 18.1&amp;quot; does 40, I know the idea of damage as a numerical system like this isn't realistic in a lot of ways, but it's the best anyone has been able to come up with so far, and I wouldn't think 2.4 inches of barrel would make that much of a difference. Put it this way, out of the 9 assault rifles in that game there are only 3 different damages, the 30, 40, and 55, keep in mind that the calibres here are 5.56, 7.62, and 7.62 NATO: the M4, ACR, and F2000 do 30, the FAMAS, SCAR, TAR-21, M16A4, and AK-47 do the same (lol what?) at 40, and the FAL does a whopping 55 (because its semi). But the single worst is the UMP and Super V, both .45s with a comparible barrel length, the UMP does 40 (again) and the the Super V does... 25. I know there should be differences but this makes NO SENSE. Sorry, I know this is the Medal Of Honor page, but everyone here seems smarter... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not a simulator. They needed to differentiate gun's performance. Besides, most people playing it doesn't know shit which caliber it shoots. So probably it's better to just get over it. Try playing hardcore mode and weapon damage won't bother you so much.&lt;br /&gt;
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I know :) it doesn't really matter too much, it would just be nice, but I'm not expecting it though lol [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 06:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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seriously, no 1911 very disapointing. it might be outdated but Special Forces still use them. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said there won't be a 1911 in the final game? This isn't the final game. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i dont know. i just figured since its not on the page already they wouldnt have it. but i hope they do. its a great gun and is used by Spec Ops. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i think that all the comparisons come from MW2 because it has an overwhelming amount of flaws. for example- what has been previously stated. and does anyone else find it peculiar that all assault rifles lose the front sight when optics are attached? knowone would do that its stupid. what if there was a long battle and you ran out of battery on a dime, nope your dead now. and i kind of agree with the lack of a back sight because it takes away the point of the reflex being quick if you have to line 3 things to a target instead of the 1-2 or a normal rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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This game looks very promising in terms of realism and graphics compared to the other games.  I'm excited to see that the game developers are working with REAL special forces operators.  The game comes out in Fall 2010.  CAN'T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!!!- ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm guessing the guy on the front cover is a Green Beret?-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Na he is a Green Beret.  That's the way they look when they are in a combat zone.  They have to grow out a beard and dress like the civilians/insurgents in that particular area.-ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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A World War II shooter series is switching to a modern setting? It'll never work.&lt;br /&gt;
:Your kidding right...and sign your posts --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:25, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The graphics appear to be on par with ''[[America's Army 3]]'', though hopefully it'll have less problems and a better weapon selection. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The trailer had what looked like an [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW]] variant fitted with an EOTech red dot sight, but I only saw it for a second looking down the sights in first-person mode so couldn't determine wether it was a standard SAW or specialized version like the Paratrooper or [[FN Minimi#FN Minimi SPW|SPW]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a screen of the M4A1 and the Minimi/SAw possibilty.  --[[User:TheCrazyGunNut|TheCrazyGunNut]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah, cheap EA.. This is so obvious that they are doing this because of MW success. Won't buy just because of this fact.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or because WWII has been overdone and they wanted to do something else. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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20th century saw so many wars. They could pick any one. The most suitable would be Vietnam war. I can't recall many good games about this conflict. It could be about SF also.&lt;br /&gt;
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How about Vietcong? http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Vietcong In my personal oppinion the best PC game from Vietnam conflict up to date. I know that the Vietcong wasn't perfect but other games usually wasted their potential (e.g. Conflict Vietnam, Men of Valor) ended as a low quality budget (first Shellshock 67 and many others) or as some crazy VC/NVA-zombie kill fest (recent Shellshock 2). &lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that there were many other &amp;quot;interesting&amp;quot; conflicts or suitable theathers for FPS games but &amp;quot;supply is influenced by demand&amp;quot;. The &amp;quot;anti-terrorist&amp;quot; theme is actual and developers don't want to risk introducing a game that &amp;quot;nobody would want to play&amp;quot;. Remember it's all about the money. Actually it's quite strange that if I look backwards I can't recall any good or partially realistic FPS from Afganistan or Iraq theatre - Modern Warefare, appart from other parts of the story, was set partialy in the Middle East but in some fictisious country (and that *** spoliler *** nuking of the whole Marine division *** spoiler *** was complete bullshit) and Modern Warefare 2 was about hunting down some crazy Russian ultranationalists (and *** spoiler *** one rouge American general *** spoiler *** that was bullshit as well). No offence to Call of Duty but I personally hope that Medal of Honor would not turn into such killfest of stupid AI NPC duchebags thrown in absolutely ridiculous waves into a single coridor where you have to kill more than 70 opponents on less than 100 square feet ...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wow, so doing something original is bullshit? I mean, come on; I'd rather shoot 70 guys in a single cooridor than simply go from cave to cave, shooting the occasional militant, or riding about in my vehicle until I hit a bomb and get ambushed. Generic examples I know, but put simply, fighting a military-trained, fully-equipped soldier is a lot more exciting than some fanatical militant using 30-year-old weapons. Heck, even America's Army created a fictional enemy for the US Army to fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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Judging by what I'm seeing in the trailer this is going to be far from any CoD style of modern warfare. This shit looks seriously hardcore in terms of trying to replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully by then they fix the damn gas block thing. Fuck that pisses me off. These guys are working with tier 1 operators but they don't want to model the damn gun correctly. Anybody with even slight knowledge of an AR-15 platform would notice this error. It's a big frickin error.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::&amp;quot;replicate actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay&amp;quot;? So coalition forces playing in a sandbox there? And duh, there is a gas-block, it's just too low-profile and you cannot see it.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Even if the gas block isn't there, does it really matter? The average gamer probably doesn't know, or care, what a gas block is, let alone whether it's actually there or not; and the Medal of Honor series goes for what looks cool (such as the Flak Tower in Airborne), not what's realistic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't change the intent of my words. Let me rephrase :::&amp;quot;replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan fighting into gameplay.&amp;quot; There happy? As well the use of a low profile gas block seems like an excuse. What are the chances that every M4 has a low profile gas block when there are attached optics?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why not? It's a game about hi-speed low-drag tear1 omfgd3ltasealz special forces operators.&lt;br /&gt;
::::That's ''Tier'' 1. And even a low-profile gas block would still be visible on the barrel where the standard FSP would be due to the length of the gas tube. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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North American release date is October 12, 2010. Europe is October 15.-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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^ At 0:56, 1:04, 1:16 you can see a stock, body, and barrel of a M14 EBR.&lt;br /&gt;
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All along the trailer are M4s with optics and different accessories. -DeltaOp&lt;br /&gt;
:Was the Mark 14 EBR even fielded yet in 2002? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said it was set in 2002? And the gas block isn't removed for optics like in Call Of Duty, it's removed when the M203's flip up sight is on top, I'm thinking it's not to block that, not that I think it would block it, but that's when it's not there, not because of optics. EDIT: Wow my bad, it is set then, and I was thinking the M203 was an attachment, but its fixed on like in BFBC2, wow, I feel dumb lol. EDIT #2: I figured it out, the M16 removes the front sight for optics, but the M4 doesn't. Odd. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Green Beret on cover ==&lt;br /&gt;
It's ''Cowboy''! [http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/03/news-bearded-guy-on-medal-of-honor-cover-is-real.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lmao. Oh i didnt think of that one. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone think its kinda odd that the Rangers seem to be doing alot of the work. along with the Green Beret. Wouldnt Delta Force/Navy SEALs be doing most of the stuff?&lt;br /&gt;
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1st SFOD-D and Navy SEALs are, let's say, &amp;quot;equal&amp;quot; to Special Forces concerning their roles within US SOCOM. They are highly trained operators used for specific and &amp;quot;delicate&amp;quot; stuff. Rangers are more like muscless used for more &amp;quot;dirty&amp;quot; tasks. In reality, you would rather send a Special Forces A-Team to do cool things like - to recon the enemy airfield, to pin point potential high-value targets, to set observation post for calling CAS missions or to set sniping posts with 18B class operators with sniper rifles; while few C-130s packed with Ranger chalks would wait to &amp;quot;go-order&amp;quot; so they can jump in, do all the hard work and blow the enemy to pieces. Special Forces (Delta/SEALs etc.) are too valuable for such things. Even though, they are capable of kicking some serious ass, it is not practical to &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; several A- or SEAL teams for a task, which bunch of Ranger squads could do better.[Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
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okay thats true, but i just dont see why there wouldnt be SOME Operators or SEALs, think about this. Rangers are like the backbone of USSOCOM, Green Berets, are trained in Reconaissance, but if u want to kick some serious Taliban ass, u send in Operators or SEALs, because they excel at kickin' the door down, and opening up some whoop-ass. [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 00:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Delta &amp;quot;Operators&amp;quot;. [[User:Pz.Abt.100|Pz.Abt.100]] 22:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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but really, i no Delta is more of a mission specific unit, but seriously what is America's best military asset? 1stSFOD-D. why? because they have close to 500 Operators, the best in the world. and officially they dont exist. political bull shit in the way, no problemo. they dont exist. its denieble if you send them in.[[Special:Contributions/71.194.219.9|71.194.219.9]] 19:03, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guns revealed in multi-player demo at E3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Beretta 92FS/M9 (not a 92SB like in CoD, had the squared-off trigger guard)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Bolt-action sniper rifle, presumably a Remington M24 (only saw it from the back and right side as the player was working the bolt)&lt;br /&gt;
*Not actually a new gun, but the M4A1 also had a low-profile front BUIS mounted on the RIS is some scenes&lt;br /&gt;
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If you check the kill feed immediately after the kill with the sniper rifle, the identifies the unknown rifle as a Sako M57. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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More confirmed weapons. I recommend you keep your eye to the left of the screen, below the radar, to see some weapons we have missed while watching the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm gonna put all the ones I've seen down, so we've got one big list (this is all from the 11 minute long multiplayer video, both seen on screen and on the killfeed) If the names are given (killfeed ones) I'm writing them exactly as they are named in game. For the ones that aren't named I'll name them what they are.&lt;br /&gt;
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M14 EBR (Seen in other videos. It is NOT the same as the M21 like it is in certain other games, the M21 has a normal M21 type body and stock, BOTH are in this.) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why would the single player and multiplayer use different engines? That makes no sense. It would make the modelers have to model everything twice, and take up twice as much space on disc. No. We're not going to do that.-protoAuthor 19:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure if i'm doing this right, but yes it uses different engines, and the modelers do not have to model everything twice, they can easily import it from a common format to both engine's formats, PSK Mesh (or something) for UT3, and a new version of bundledmesh contained in RES files for frostbite. You don't have to model it twice, you just export within both engines.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It still makes no sense to split up the page. But thank you for enlightening me to something that still makes no sense to me. Why would they do that?-protoAuthor 16:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The only reason i could possibly see would be to make a comparable multiplayer experience for BFBC2 players, And they might have already started building singleplayer on the unreal engine, which most if not all of the previous MoH games used. In my opinion, it shouldn't be split either, means some firearms would be listed twice. btw this isn't the original poster, this is the guy from the post before proto's last.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ok than. It doesnt have to be split, but there should be atlest writed to each screenshot &amp;quot; This is from Multiplayer/ Singleplayer&amp;quot;. And just one little '''BTW''': They modelled it twice. As you can see, M4 or MK46 '''''HAVE''''' different models.&lt;br /&gt;
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That's because the M4 and Mk. 46 are different guns, silly.-protoAuthor 04:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Heh. I mean that M4 looks different in SP and MP. Same with Mk.46&lt;br /&gt;
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They do look different but I think its just because one sets from that first trailer a while ago, game's graphics always get better as develpment keeps going, but you might be right to, I was just throwing that out there. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== LMG Special Weapons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the sniper class you get C4, in the special ops class you get a rocket, and with an assault rifle in the rifleman class you get a launcher... so what do you get if you equip an LMG? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 09:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that a joke or can you actually be a suicide bomber, cause what would the American gunners get? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Best of 3 shooters? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to say, out of the 3 FPS games that will be coming out in Q4 (this one, Spec Ops: The Line, and CoD: Black Ops), I am looking forward to Medal of Honor the most. From what I've seen about the other two, they look like they're filled with sensationalist b.s. . -Any Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
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:MoH looks WAY to much like Bad Company 2, and I think it's EAs fault. They want to capitalize on the modern warfare craze so much, they're using another popular series to boost sales. To be honest, MOH looks like BC2 with Taliban, and I'll most likely not be getting it. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Says you man. Face it, it's going to be bought by the same type of people who buy MW2 and BC2, mostly idiot kids ranging from 10 to 15 who just wanna get four man sprays and noob tubes across the map. This is a console FPS that can be bought by anyone, and has nothing to offer that will make it overly unique, so it will end up like MW2 and BC2, noob weapons will arise, and it will just be another chaotic FPS. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Animations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was really psyched about the game untill i found out it was made by the people who made BF-BD2. you said it was a different engine. does that mean that it will be different creators or what? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mp is made by BC2 (''not BD2'' ) creators - DICE. So it means only good part on that game will be SP - developed by EA on UT3 engine.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wouldn't having an M16A4 on full auto make it a C7A1? I know there are a few other differences, but they're all internal, it's the only difference visible in some way. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well I would have said M16A3, but those didn't have rails. So yes, the only M16 variant that has an RIS system and goes full-auto is the C7A2, so indeed this new game uses a C7. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::M16A4 with FA lower - what could be easier&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I wouldn't call &amp;quot;full-auto&amp;quot; M16A4 a C7A2. C7A2 has some, more or less significant, differences - e.g. ambidextrous fire selector or retractable stock. Plus Canadian military did not use full length RIS systems (e.g. like King Arms M5 on M16A4) on their C7s. Full-auto M16A4 is just another game-developer inaccuracy created by lack of knowledge about firearms. Unfortunately, it's a trend in nowadays mainstream FPS like Modern Warfare or Battlefield Bad Company. Game developers just give a sh*t about this stuff. 13-year-old kids screaming and b*tching in multiplayer would not notice the difference. [Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course I realize that having it full auto is just a screw up, like in most movies, and I'm not talking about the C7A2, with the green furniture and ambi controls, I meant the C7A1, which is the same in terms of appearance. Here's one without an ELCAN, because I know someone will complain about that:&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and you can put the KAC Rails on any M16-length AR, so that's not really an issue, some of the C7A1s (like the one pictured) had them put on before the C7A2 was introduced with the TRIAD. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It could be a C7, but really, it's just EA's lack of knowledge about weapons, cause full auto is what every assault rifle shoots, right? Man, games like Call of Duty 4 tried their best to keep weapons accurate, now it's all about tacticool weapons that fire full auto and have cool sights and nice finishes. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah I know, and guns don't need to be re-chambered after they run empty too :p in this and Bad Company 2, it's kind of distracting when I'm playing to be honest, well, I've gotten used to it a little more by now. Okay what I don't get is why can't it be listed as a C7A1? Or at least mentioned... If there was an gun listed as an M4 (not A1) and it was firing full auto you guys would have no problem saying it's actually an M4A1, or an AK-47 is really an AKM, so why can't the M16 really be a C7? I realize it's just a mistake on the developer's part, but that doesn't stop us pointing out the other ones... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:56, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it would be a good idea if we mentioned that in reality, this would class it as a C7A1 etc. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 18:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Has there even ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game? At any rate, I think just noting that it's inaccurately portrayed as full auto is enough. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto! But yeah, just classify the M16 in MOH as a C7A1, cause in reality that's what it is. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Best 5 minutes of my life reading this! [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 20:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto!'' - Believe it or not, 4-position selectors for AR-15 type rifles exist.  There should be a link to the patent in the Season 2 discussion. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The so-called &amp;quot;Green Berets&amp;quot; on that show were idiot actors who didn't do their research, so I don't really give a crap about what they say. The M4A1 as used by the US military is safe/semi/auto, no burst. 4-pos selectors may exist, but the US military does not use them. That also wasn't an answer my question. ''Have there ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game?'' By &amp;quot;burst-firing M4&amp;quot;, I mean the M4 with M16A2/A4 trigger group as issued en mass to regular US Army troops. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I only know of two games that have M4s with the A2/A4 trigger group.  There's one of the Call of Duty Modern Warfare games for the Nintendo DS, and then there's the Battlefield 2 mod [[Project Reality]], where it features both burst-firing M4s for the Americans and full-auto M4A1s for the Israelis.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you, that ''did'' answer my question. Also, lol @the thread on EA Forums. That was a pretty entertaining read. Though I quite disagree with the guy who claims you can't know anything about an M16 or other firearm without having handled or used one. I've never handled an M16, but I still know the difference between an A1, A2, A3, and A4. Good thing I quit bothering with that place within the first few days I registered, otherwise I'd probably be ankle-deep in that ****storm. XD [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::To Hoot471, that forum nearly gave me a headsplosion, how can people be so unbelievably ignorant and stupid?! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi-Def MP videos ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You guys might want to check this out: On YouTube, there's someone by the name of deluxe345 who has Hi-Definition videos from the Medal of Honor multiplayer (there are 3 or 4). Also, in one of these videos, I spotted an M224 mortar in the killfeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==360 Beta?==&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, does anyone on Earth have a clue when the 360 beta for this comes out!? PS3 and PC went up June 21st, and yet 360 is still delayed, anyone got a clue? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I got deployed for deepwater horizon so no vid games till september. I seriously wish that the release had been on time, I could have played it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Clip/Magazine==&lt;br /&gt;
A frivolous debate, but why oh why must they call the magazines &amp;quot;clips&amp;quot; in the game? Yuck. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know why, but the same error happened in an episode in Lois &amp;amp; Clark. They probably got confused with clips and magazines since that they are both similar. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is nothing similar between a clip and a magazine. A Magazine is a block that stores the bullets, a clip is a strip of metal that holds the bullets that are then FED into a Magazine. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there gave been some new guns spotted and i already identified few of them. But can someone help me with this ?&lt;br /&gt;
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Magazine seems to wide and big for 5.56. I truly need help with this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Could it be the 417 ?&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure the MP5 is shown at one point in the trailer. I'd have to look at the trailer again to find the exact point, but I'll update when I do find the time stamp. Lets hope we see the MP5 in multiplayer as well as the campaign if my spot is correct.  Also, I'm pretty sure the picture shown above is just the M4A1, but I'm not 100%. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 22:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
1:30 seconds in, on the operator's chest. I am pretty sure that's an MP5A3 or A5. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 23:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That's M4 or might be h&amp;amp;k 416. Clip is just taped. Also, all this specop theme became too popularized after MW1. Don't like.&lt;br /&gt;
::It's called a Magazine or Mag. Don't like [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::After re-watching the video for the 17th or so time, the weapon I thought was the MP5 was just an MP7 that blended a little too well into the vest. That said, I did notice that one of the Rangers in the trailer was using an Aimpoint M68 (Comp M2) sight on his M4A1. Possibly another sight option? Who knows. I just know I'm excited for this game.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's an M4 kitted out with an EOTech 552, KAC Free-Float RAS, PEQ-2A, and KAC broomstick. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anybody else feel unimpressed looking at this game? I mean, nothing about it really stands out to me. The firearm selection is trite and cliche, the modern military tacticool spec ops motif has been done far too much, and so has the idea of weapon customization. Honestly, when I saw this game I just kinda yawned and moved on. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 19:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: About that firearms choose : So you would give terrorists XM8´s, just because its cliche in video games ? No. So why not give them weapons they use in real ?&lt;br /&gt;
:I actually see this as a good change from Modern Warfare and Bad Company rather than yet another tacticool game. Sure, most of it has been done, but so has most other games. At least its not YET another World War 2 sim.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 20:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But see, that's the whole thing. Instead of &amp;quot;yet another WW2 sim,&amp;quot; it's become &amp;quot;yet another Spec Ops shooter.&amp;quot; And for the record, I liked Bad Company, and I don't see how this will be any different. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 23:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am truly impressed with this game. Lets talk about it as MW2 on steroids : &lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Much more realistic''' ('' Cmon, Russians with tavors and milita with tactical AK´s ?'' )&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Much better atmosphere''' ( ''That attempt to make everything cool just failed. Also enviroment wasnt the best seriously'' )&lt;br /&gt;
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Then I better get this for my 360 then PC, cause the graphics are just as high as BC 2 so it'll mess with my PC. The Multiplayer was designed by the same guys who did Bad Company, so we see a lot of their handy work. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, comparing ANYTHING to MW2 instantly makes it better. And if what excalibur says is true, then I'm inclined to go with what everybody else has been saying and write it off as Bad Company 2 with Taliban. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 11:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: We are talking about SP. MP will be BC2 clone ( ''Yeah. Same people are doing it, why not then ?'' ).. But SP will be better :P&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah, I'd certainly be willing to try the single player if it looks any good. Not sure if I'd pay full release price for it though, I'll probably go out and buy it later on when it gets down to like 40 bucks. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dragunov ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where did it come from that the NDM-86 is in 7.62x51mm? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Oh, wait, what ?&lt;br /&gt;
::Look at the mag in the weapon selection screen shot. It's clearly not the Dragunov's standard mag and a straight 7.62x51mm mag. I agree with whoever did the change that it's the NDM-86. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 13:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, i have done it. And it doesnt have anything to do with 7.62x51, its actually standart .308 winchester. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Last I checked, the .308 was the civilian version of the 7.62 NATO. So in other words, it's the same round for the purposes of this discussion. Don't mean to sound rude or anything, just something to think about. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 14:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: ( ''Wow, so many &amp;quot;''':'''&amp;quot; symbols'' ) Well, .308 is more powerfull i think. But whatever - Im glad someone agrees that NDM-86 is there. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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And someone we havent seen named Rabbit Has a Sig. Navy Seal im guessing&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;When you play as &amp;quot;Rabbit&amp;quot; you carry a Sig. When you play as &amp;quot;Deuce&amp;quot; you carry a Glock. And when you are Dante Adams you carry the M9. These weapons can never be dropped, never run out of ammunition, and are an integral part of each character’s identity. The variety in these side arms is also intended to help give distinction and personality to each of the characters represented in &amp;quot;Neptune&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Wolfpack&amp;quot; and 1/75th Ranger&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I watched the &amp;quot;Leave a Message&amp;quot; trailer recently. I think one of the Rangers had a Gerber LMF II knife attached to his MOLLE vest. I own this same knife which is why it caught my eye.&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe so, but we need to avoid putting knives down. Yes, the MW2 page as well as some others have knives, but I'm in favor of removing said knives from said pages entirely. The site is called Internet Movie '''Firearms''' Database for a reason. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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When will 360 beta be out? I keep hearing within a week but have seen no announcements by the company.&lt;br /&gt;
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Both links failed, and im getting pissed waiting, gives you high hopes for the games multiplayer when a short beta is this delayed......&lt;br /&gt;
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I heard somewhere they're going to run it after they fix the bugs from the PS3/PC Betas, after they're done, because it will allow them to find new problems and because it saves money. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i just saw the 12 round beretta mentioned  i think they did that for balance reasons. Another game too focused on fairness. God forbid you unlock a gun later on that just owns. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah its kind of annoying when its that balanced, at least you could pretend its the .40, but I wouldn't even know what to do with the Grach, its named the Tariq (which is something else) and has 12 rounds too, when its supposed to have 17. Wait, couldn't they both just have been 16 to be in between? If I WAS going to make an overly balanced system like this, I'd try to make it close, why take them both down to 12? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Haha too bad there isn't one... WAIT! If you really want to stretch it you could pretend its the compact MP-448, 12 rounds of 9x18mm lol :D [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I hate when the do something like &amp;quot;the m4 has 20 power and 30 fire rate, the AK has 30 power and 20 fire rate, so there balanced. Then they go weapon x is more accurate than weapon y since its weaker and needs an advantage. I wish when you leveled up you had guns with good advantages that just own.&lt;br /&gt;
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I want a game that keeps the round in the chamber, keeps track of your extra mags (not the one big number bullshit), all the functions to be right, none of the guns to be set in a firing mode they're not in, the ability to switch modes to whatever that weapon has, the correct attachments (no AKs with ACOGs, or M14s and G3s with M203s), the correct animations for reloads, correct fire rates, correct mag capacities, correct zooms on scopes and no zoom on reflex sights/irons sights, its not really too much to ask I don't think. The only thing that would be arguable would be damage stuff does, but for the MOST part if you used the calibre measurement as the damage it would work (i.e. 5.56mm does  about 22 damage, 7.62mm does 30, .50 does 50) it's not perfect but I at least want the guns with the same calibres to do the same damage... Rant done. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a game for you, it's called ArmA. Mainstream arcadey FPS won't have all these features. But I agree at least counting bullet up the pipe would be nice touch. That always bugged me too. I have no idea why CoD games still doesn't have this. Anyway, ACOG (or any other weaver optic) on AK is not a problem via special mount. 203 on G3 and M14 is possible too.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh believe me, I wouldn't need ALL that, I still play the mainstream FPSs, it would just be nice, I just kept going with the list ;) And I do know you can technically put an ACOG on an AK or a 203 on the M14 or G3, but it would be nice to see the things that are supposed to be there... there, like the HK79. The attachments thing certainly wouldn't be as important to me as the round in the chamber, and I don't think guns of the same calibre having the same damage would be too much, its not that would take any extra effort... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same caliber doesn't always do same damage when shot from different barrels. M16 and M4 is a good example. In case with M16 bullet tumble and fragment thus making more damage, but when the same ammo shot from M4 it does not.&lt;br /&gt;
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I knew that but didn't want to make my posts too long ;)That's fair, I meant more the stuff that doesn't make sense, like a 12 gauge that does more damage than another 12 gauge because it's pump action vs semi-auto, or like in Modern Warfare 2, which is the game I'm mostly complaning about, the F2000 has a 15.7&amp;quot; barrel and does 30 damage, while the TAR-21 has an 18.1&amp;quot; does 40, I know the idea of damage as a numerical system like this isn't realistic in a lot of ways, but it's the best anyone has been able to come up with so far, and I wouldn't think 2.4 inches of barrel would make that much of a difference. Put it this way, out of the 9 assault rifles in that game there are only 3 different damages, the 30, 40, and 55, keep in mind that the calibres here are 5.56, 7.62, and 7.62 NATO: the M4, ACR, and F2000 do 30, the FAMAS, SCAR, TAR-21, M16A4, and AK-47 do the same (lol what?) at 40, and the FAL does a whopping 55 (because its semi). But the single worst is the UMP and Super V, both .45s with a comparible barrel length, the UMP does 40 (again) and the the Super V does... 25. I know there should be differences but this makes NO SENSE. Sorry, I know this is the Medal Of Honor page, but everyone here seems smarter... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not a simulator. They needed to differentiate gun's performance. Besides, most people playing it doesn't know shit which caliber it shoots. So probably it's better to just get over it. Try playing hardcore mode and weapon damage won't bother you so much.&lt;br /&gt;
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I know :) it doesn't really matter too much, it would just be nice, but I'm not expecting it though lol [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 06:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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seriously, no 1911 very disapointing. it might be outdated but Special Forces still use them. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said there won't be a 1911 in the final game? This isn't the final game. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i dont know. i just figured since its not on the page already they wouldnt have it. but i hope they do. its a great gun and is used by Spec Ops. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
i think that all the comparisons come from MW2 because it has an overwhelming amount of flaws. for example- what has been previously stated. and does anyone else find it peculiar that all assault rifles lose the front sight when optics are attached? knowone would do that its stupid. what if there was a long battle and you ran out of battery on a dime, nope your dead now. and i kind of agree with the lack of a back sight because it takes away the point of the reflex being quick if you have to line 3 things to a target instead of the 1-2 or a normal rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
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This game looks very promising in terms of realism and graphics compared to the other games.  I'm excited to see that the game developers are working with REAL special forces operators.  The game comes out in Fall 2010.  CAN'T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!!!- ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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:For some reason I though the guy on the front page was a PMC --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Na he is a Green Beret.  That's the way they look when they are in a combat zone.  They have to grow out a beard and dress like the civilians/insurgents in that particular area.-ArmoredMason619&lt;br /&gt;
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A World War II shooter series is switching to a modern setting? It'll never work.&lt;br /&gt;
:Your kidding right...and sign your posts --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:25, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The graphics appear to be on par with ''[[America's Army 3]]'', though hopefully it'll have less problems and a better weapon selection. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The trailer had what looked like an [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW]] variant fitted with an EOTech red dot sight, but I only saw it for a second looking down the sights in first-person mode so couldn't determine wether it was a standard SAW or specialized version like the Paratrooper or [[FN Minimi#FN Minimi SPW|SPW]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a screen of the M4A1 and the Minimi/SAw possibilty.  --[[User:TheCrazyGunNut|TheCrazyGunNut]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah, cheap EA.. This is so obvious that they are doing this because of MW success. Won't buy just because of this fact.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or because WWII has been overdone and they wanted to do something else. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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20th century saw so many wars. They could pick any one. The most suitable would be Vietnam war. I can't recall many good games about this conflict. It could be about SF also.&lt;br /&gt;
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How about Vietcong? http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Vietcong In my personal oppinion the best PC game from Vietnam conflict up to date. I know that the Vietcong wasn't perfect but other games usually wasted their potential (e.g. Conflict Vietnam, Men of Valor) ended as a low quality budget (first Shellshock 67 and many others) or as some crazy VC/NVA-zombie kill fest (recent Shellshock 2). &lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that there were many other &amp;quot;interesting&amp;quot; conflicts or suitable theathers for FPS games but &amp;quot;supply is influenced by demand&amp;quot;. The &amp;quot;anti-terrorist&amp;quot; theme is actual and developers don't want to risk introducing a game that &amp;quot;nobody would want to play&amp;quot;. Remember it's all about the money. Actually it's quite strange that if I look backwards I can't recall any good or partially realistic FPS from Afganistan or Iraq theatre - Modern Warefare, appart from other parts of the story, was set partialy in the Middle East but in some fictisious country (and that *** spoliler *** nuking of the whole Marine division *** spoiler *** was complete bullshit) and Modern Warefare 2 was about hunting down some crazy Russian ultranationalists (and *** spoiler *** one rouge American general *** spoiler *** that was bullshit as well). No offence to Call of Duty but I personally hope that Medal of Honor would not turn into such killfest of stupid AI NPC duchebags thrown in absolutely ridiculous waves into a single coridor where you have to kill more than 70 opponents on less than 100 square feet ...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wow, so doing something original is bullshit? I mean, come on; I'd rather shoot 70 guys in a single cooridor than simply go from cave to cave, shooting the occasional militant, or riding about in my vehicle until I hit a bomb and get ambushed. Generic examples I know, but put simply, fighting a military-trained, fully-equipped soldier is a lot more exciting than some fanatical militant using 30-year-old weapons. Heck, even America's Army created a fictional enemy for the US Army to fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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Judging by what I'm seeing in the trailer this is going to be far from any CoD style of modern warfare. This shit looks seriously hardcore in terms of trying to replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully by then they fix the damn gas block thing. Fuck that pisses me off. These guys are working with tier 1 operators but they don't want to model the damn gun correctly. Anybody with even slight knowledge of an AR-15 platform would notice this error. It's a big frickin error.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::&amp;quot;replicate actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay&amp;quot;? So coalition forces playing in a sandbox there? And duh, there is a gas-block, it's just too low-profile and you cannot see it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't change the intent of my words. Let me rephrase :::&amp;quot;replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan fighting into gameplay.&amp;quot; There happy? As well the use of a low profile gas block seems like an excuse. What are the chances that every M4 has a low profile gas block when there are attached optics?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's ''Tier'' 1. And even a low-profile gas block would still be visible on the barrel where the standard FSP would be due to the length of the gas tube. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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North American release date is October 12, 2010. Europe is October 15.-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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^ At 0:56, 1:04, 1:16 you can see a stock, body, and barrel of a M14 EBR.&lt;br /&gt;
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All along the trailer are M4s with optics and different accessories. -DeltaOp&lt;br /&gt;
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Who said it was set in 2002? And the gas block isn't removed for optics like in Call Of Duty, it's removed when the M203's flip up sight is on top, I'm thinking it's not to block that, not that I think it would block it, but that's when it's not there, not because of optics. EDIT: Wow my bad, it is set then, and I was thinking the M203 was an attachment, but its fixed on like in BFBC2, wow, I feel dumb lol. EDIT #2: I figured it out, the M16 removes the front sight for optics, but the M4 doesn't. Odd. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Green Beret on cover ==&lt;br /&gt;
It's ''Cowboy''! [http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/03/news-bearded-guy-on-medal-of-honor-cover-is-real.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lmao. Oh i didnt think of that one. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone think its kinda odd that the Rangers seem to be doing alot of the work. along with the Green Beret. Wouldnt Delta Force/Navy SEALs be doing most of the stuff?&lt;br /&gt;
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1st SFOD-D and Navy SEALs are, let's say, &amp;quot;equal&amp;quot; to Special Forces concerning their roles within US SOCOM. They are highly trained operators used for specific and &amp;quot;delicate&amp;quot; stuff. Rangers are more like muscless used for more &amp;quot;dirty&amp;quot; tasks. In reality, you would rather send a Special Forces A-Team to do cool things like - to recon the enemy airfield, to pin point potential high-value targets, to set observation post for calling CAS missions or to set sniping posts with 18B class operators with sniper rifles; while few C-130s packed with Ranger chalks would wait to &amp;quot;go-order&amp;quot; so they can jump in, do all the hard work and blow the enemy to pieces. Special Forces (Delta/SEALs etc.) are too valuable for such things. Even though, they are capable of kicking some serious ass, it is not practical to &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; several A- or SEAL teams for a task, which bunch of Ranger squads could do better.[Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
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okay thats true, but i just dont see why there wouldnt be SOME Operators or SEALs, think about this. Rangers are like the backbone of USSOCOM, Green Berets, are trained in Reconaissance, but if u want to kick some serious Taliban ass, u send in Operators or SEALs, because they excel at kickin' the door down, and opening up some whoop-ass. [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 00:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Delta &amp;quot;Operators&amp;quot;. [[User:Pz.Abt.100|Pz.Abt.100]] 22:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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but really, i no Delta is more of a mission specific unit, but seriously what is America's best military asset? 1stSFOD-D. why? because they have close to 500 Operators, the best in the world. and officially they dont exist. political bull shit in the way, no problemo. they dont exist. its denieble if you send them in.[[Special:Contributions/71.194.219.9|71.194.219.9]] 19:03, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guns revealed in multi-player demo at E3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Beretta 92FS/M9 (not a 92SB like in CoD, had the squared-off trigger guard)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Bolt-action sniper rifle, presumably a Remington M24 (only saw it from the back and right side as the player was working the bolt)&lt;br /&gt;
*Not actually a new gun, but the M4A1 also had a low-profile front BUIS mounted on the RIS is some scenes&lt;br /&gt;
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If you check the kill feed immediately after the kill with the sniper rifle, the identifies the unknown rifle as a Sako M57. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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More confirmed weapons. I recommend you keep your eye to the left of the screen, below the radar, to see some weapons we have missed while watching the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm gonna put all the ones I've seen down, so we've got one big list (this is all from the 11 minute long multiplayer video, both seen on screen and on the killfeed) If the names are given (killfeed ones) I'm writing them exactly as they are named in game. For the ones that aren't named I'll name them what they are.&lt;br /&gt;
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M14 EBR (Seen in other videos. It is NOT the same as the M21 like it is in certain other games, the M21 has a normal M21 type body and stock, BOTH are in this.) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Spliting into sections ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why would the single player and multiplayer use different engines? That makes no sense. It would make the modelers have to model everything twice, and take up twice as much space on disc. No. We're not going to do that.-protoAuthor 19:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure if i'm doing this right, but yes it uses different engines, and the modelers do not have to model everything twice, they can easily import it from a common format to both engine's formats, PSK Mesh (or something) for UT3, and a new version of bundledmesh contained in RES files for frostbite. You don't have to model it twice, you just export within both engines.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It still makes no sense to split up the page. But thank you for enlightening me to something that still makes no sense to me. Why would they do that?-protoAuthor 16:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The only reason i could possibly see would be to make a comparable multiplayer experience for BFBC2 players, And they might have already started building singleplayer on the unreal engine, which most if not all of the previous MoH games used. In my opinion, it shouldn't be split either, means some firearms would be listed twice. btw this isn't the original poster, this is the guy from the post before proto's last.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ok than. It doesnt have to be split, but there should be atlest writed to each screenshot &amp;quot; This is from Multiplayer/ Singleplayer&amp;quot;. And just one little '''BTW''': They modelled it twice. As you can see, M4 or MK46 '''''HAVE''''' different models.&lt;br /&gt;
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That's because the M4 and Mk. 46 are different guns, silly.-protoAuthor 04:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Heh. I mean that M4 looks different in SP and MP. Same with Mk.46&lt;br /&gt;
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They do look different but I think its just because one sets from that first trailer a while ago, game's graphics always get better as develpment keeps going, but you might be right to, I was just throwing that out there. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== LMG Special Weapons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the sniper class you get C4, in the special ops class you get a rocket, and with an assault rifle in the rifleman class you get a launcher... so what do you get if you equip an LMG? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 09:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that a joke or can you actually be a suicide bomber, cause what would the American gunners get? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is then? Okay cool, I figured but I wasn't sure, I can't check because the 360 beta was delayed :( [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== Best of 3 shooters? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to say, out of the 3 FPS games that will be coming out in Q4 (this one, Spec Ops: The Line, and CoD: Black Ops), I am looking forward to Medal of Honor the most. From what I've seen about the other two, they look like they're filled with sensationalist b.s. . -Any Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
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:MoH looks WAY to much like Bad Company 2, and I think it's EAs fault. They want to capitalize on the modern warfare craze so much, they're using another popular series to boost sales. To be honest, MOH looks like BC2 with Taliban, and I'll most likely not be getting it. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Medal of honor is not going to be way too much like BC2 because the gameplay will be much more tactical and realistic.  Like real modern warfare.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Says you man. Face it, it's going to be bought by the same type of people who buy MW2 and BC2, mostly idiot kids ranging from 10 to 15 who just wanna get four man sprays and noob tubes across the map. This is a console FPS that can be bought by anyone, and has nothing to offer that will make it overly unique, so it will end up like MW2 and BC2, noob weapons will arise, and it will just be another chaotic FPS. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, my bad. I thought it was one of those deals like Fallout 3 where you could switch from first-to-third-person and back -Any Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
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== Animations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that only happens in multiplayer due to it being a different engine, but yeah it is weird&lt;br /&gt;
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I was really psyched about the game untill i found out it was made by the people who made BF-BD2. you said it was a different engine. does that mean that it will be different creators or what? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Full Auto M16A4 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wouldn't having an M16A4 on full auto make it a C7A1? I know there are a few other differences, but they're all internal, it's the only difference visible in some way. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well I would have said M16A3, but those didn't have rails. So yes, the only M16 variant that has an RIS system and goes full-auto is the C7A2, so indeed this new game uses a C7. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::M16A4 with FA lower - what could be easier&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I wouldn't call &amp;quot;full-auto&amp;quot; M16A4 a C7A2. C7A2 has some, more or less significant, differences - e.g. ambidextrous fire selector or retractable stock. Plus Canadian military did not use full length RIS systems (e.g. like King Arms M5 on M16A4) on their C7s. Full-auto M16A4 is just another game-developer inaccuracy created by lack of knowledge about firearms. Unfortunately, it's a trend in nowadays mainstream FPS like Modern Warfare or Battlefield Bad Company. Game developers just give a sh*t about this stuff. 13-year-old kids screaming and b*tching in multiplayer would not notice the difference. [Ragnar]&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course I realize that having it full auto is just a screw up, like in most movies, and I'm not talking about the C7A2, with the green furniture and ambi controls, I meant the C7A1, which is the same in terms of appearance. Here's one without an ELCAN, because I know someone will complain about that:&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and you can put the KAC Rails on any M16-length AR, so that's not really an issue, some of the C7A1s (like the one pictured) had them put on before the C7A2 was introduced with the TRIAD. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It could be a C7, but really, it's just EA's lack of knowledge about weapons, cause full auto is what every assault rifle shoots, right? Man, games like Call of Duty 4 tried their best to keep weapons accurate, now it's all about tacticool weapons that fire full auto and have cool sights and nice finishes. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah I know, and guns don't need to be re-chambered after they run empty too :p in this and Bad Company 2, it's kind of distracting when I'm playing to be honest, well, I've gotten used to it a little more by now. Okay what I don't get is why can't it be listed as a C7A1? Or at least mentioned... If there was an gun listed as an M4 (not A1) and it was firing full auto you guys would have no problem saying it's actually an M4A1, or an AK-47 is really an AKM, so why can't the M16 really be a C7? I realize it's just a mistake on the developer's part, but that doesn't stop us pointing out the other ones... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:56, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it would be a good idea if we mentioned that in reality, this would class it as a C7A1 etc. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 18:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Has there even ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game? At any rate, I think just noting that it's inaccurately portrayed as full auto is enough. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto! But yeah, just classify the M16 in MOH as a C7A1, cause in reality that's what it is. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Best 5 minutes of my life reading this! [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 20:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto!'' - Believe it or not, 4-position selectors for AR-15 type rifles exist.  There should be a link to the patent in the Season 2 discussion. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The so-called &amp;quot;Green Berets&amp;quot; on that show were idiot actors who didn't do their research, so I don't really give a crap about what they say. The M4A1 as used by the US military is safe/semi/auto, no burst. 4-pos selectors may exist, but the US military does not use them. That also wasn't an answer my question. ''Have there ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game?'' By &amp;quot;burst-firing M4&amp;quot;, I mean the M4 with M16A2/A4 trigger group as issued en mass to regular US Army troops. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I only know of two games that have M4s with the A2/A4 trigger group.  There's one of the Call of Duty Modern Warfare games for the Nintendo DS, and then there's the Battlefield 2 mod [[Project Reality]], where it features both burst-firing M4s for the Americans and full-auto M4A1s for the Israelis.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you, that ''did'' answer my question. Also, lol @the thread on EA Forums. That was a pretty entertaining read. Though I quite disagree with the guy who claims you can't know anything about an M16 or other firearm without having handled or used one. I've never handled an M16, but I still know the difference between an A1, A2, A3, and A4. Good thing I quit bothering with that place within the first few days I registered, otherwise I'd probably be ankle-deep in that ****storm. XD [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::To Hoot471, that forum nearly gave me a headsplosion, how can people be so unbelievably ignorant and stupid?! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi-Def MP videos ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You guys might want to check this out: On YouTube, there's someone by the name of deluxe345 who has Hi-Definition videos from the Medal of Honor multiplayer (there are 3 or 4). Also, in one of these videos, I spotted an M224 mortar in the killfeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==360 Beta?==&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, does anyone on Earth have a clue when the 360 beta for this comes out!? PS3 and PC went up June 21st, and yet 360 is still delayed, anyone got a clue? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I got deployed for deepwater horizon so no vid games till september. I seriously wish that the release had been on time, I could have played it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Clip/Magazine==&lt;br /&gt;
A frivolous debate, but why oh why must they call the magazines &amp;quot;clips&amp;quot; in the game? Yuck. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know why, but the same error happened in an episode in Lois &amp;amp; Clark. They probably got confused with clips and magazines since that they are both similar. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is nothing similar between a clip and a magazine. A Magazine is a block that stores the bullets, a clip is a strip of metal that holds the bullets that are then FED into a Magazine. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Magazine seems to wide and big for 5.56. I truly need help with this.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure the MP5 is shown at one point in the trailer. I'd have to look at the trailer again to find the exact point, but I'll update when I do find the time stamp. Lets hope we see the MP5 in multiplayer as well as the campaign if my spot is correct.  Also, I'm pretty sure the picture shown above is just the M4A1, but I'm not 100%. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 22:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
1:30 seconds in, on the operator's chest. I am pretty sure that's an MP5A3 or A5. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 23:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That's M4 or might be h&amp;amp;k 416. Clip is just taped. Also, all this specop theme became too popularized after MW1. Don't like.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::After re-watching the video for the 17th or so time, the weapon I thought was the MP5 was just an MP7 that blended a little too well into the vest. That said, I did notice that one of the Rangers in the trailer was using an Aimpoint M68 (Comp M2) sight on his M4A1. Possibly another sight option? Who knows. I just know I'm excited for this game.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's an M4 kitted out with an EOTech 552, KAC Free-Float RAS, PEQ-2A, and KAC broomstick. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anybody else feel unimpressed looking at this game? I mean, nothing about it really stands out to me. The firearm selection is trite and cliche, the modern military tacticool spec ops motif has been done far too much, and so has the idea of weapon customization. Honestly, when I saw this game I just kinda yawned and moved on. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 19:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: About that firearms choose : So you would give terrorists XM8´s, just because its cliche in video games ? No. So why not give them weapons they use in real ?&lt;br /&gt;
:I actually see this as a good change from Modern Warfare and Bad Company rather than yet another tacticool game. Sure, most of it has been done, but so has most other games. At least its not YET another World War 2 sim.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 20:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But see, that's the whole thing. Instead of &amp;quot;yet another WW2 sim,&amp;quot; it's become &amp;quot;yet another Spec Ops shooter.&amp;quot; And for the record, I liked Bad Company, and I don't see how this will be any different. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 23:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Then I better get this for my 360 then PC, cause the graphics are just as high as BC 2 so it'll mess with my PC. The Multiplayer was designed by the same guys who did Bad Company, so we see a lot of their handy work. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, comparing ANYTHING to MW2 instantly makes it better. And if what excalibur says is true, then I'm inclined to go with what everybody else has been saying and write it off as Bad Company 2 with Taliban. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 11:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: We are talking about SP. MP will be BC2 clone ( ''Yeah. Same people are doing it, why not then ?'' ).. But SP will be better :P&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah, I'd certainly be willing to try the single player if it looks any good. Not sure if I'd pay full release price for it though, I'll probably go out and buy it later on when it gets down to like 40 bucks. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dragunov ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where did it come from that the NDM-86 is in 7.62x51mm? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Look at the mag in the weapon selection screen shot. It's clearly not the Dragunov's standard mag and a straight 7.62x51mm mag. I agree with whoever did the change that it's the NDM-86. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 13:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, i have done it. And it doesnt have anything to do with 7.62x51, its actually standart .308 winchester. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Last I checked, the .308 was the civilian version of the 7.62 NATO. So in other words, it's the same round for the purposes of this discussion. Don't mean to sound rude or anything, just something to think about. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 14:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: ( ''Wow, so many &amp;quot;''':'''&amp;quot; symbols'' ) Well, .308 is more powerfull i think. But whatever - Im glad someone agrees that NDM-86 is there. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Beretta Cheetah or SIG-Sauer? (updated 8/4/10) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This is one of those hard series since pictures are hard to find and I'm not a master of screenshots.&lt;br /&gt;
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I like to keep the format I've set for the photos of M4s and MP5Ks the way it is because there were a lot of photos and I think the current format for those are appealing.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beretta Cheetah or SIG-Sauer? (updated 8/4/10) ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've added some pics and it looks more like a SIG.  Mack also mentions in the episode that she's carrying a .45 instead of 9mm. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Look at the last pic. Thats a SIG for sure. Looks like Jack Bauers SIG from the first few seasons of 24. &lt;br /&gt;
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What does this look like? Cause someone say it's a Cheetah. Cause it looks like a USP [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like a Beretta Cheetah in the cap and looked like one last time I watched the episode (which wasn't that long ago). It's too round and curvy to be a USP, which is square and blocky. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then we have a continuity error in the dialogue. In the same episode where she used this gun, Mack asked why is she using a .45 than a 9? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Either that or it's implying her back-up is a larger caliber than her primary (a choice which doesn't make sense to me, either). Maybe just a script error or a moment of miscommunication between the armorer and director/writer/etc.? Heck, maybe the director just ''liked the Cheetah more''? Who knows really. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Her back up is a Derringer gun. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh yeah, now I remember. This scene is one of the more ridiculous ones in the show. Basically, Redcap empties her Cheetah into the soldier's body armor, kicks away his M4 but ignores the fact that the guy has a sidearm, drops the empty magazine from her gun with the guy staring straight up at her, then gets on the radio without reloading her gun first. I literally screamed &amp;quot;you idiot&amp;quot; at the TV. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It was obviously on purpose for the script so she can bust out her back up. And about that episode, the rest of the unit had encountered at least 2 enemies with M4s and extra ammo, yet it never shows them picking up enemy weapons. They were running out during that last stand. That one bad guy's M4 would have been very useful right about then. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Look at the last pic. Thats a SIG for sure. Looks like Jack Bauers SIG from the first few seasons of 24.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Probably Hard Shots to find==&lt;br /&gt;
I only saw the first episode of this show and if memory serves me right, one guy went quail hunting with a pump shotgun (870 I believe) and then was held up by a man with a Mini-14 which I think had a 30 or 40 round magazine. Since the first episode isn't easy to find on the computer, I'm assuming this shot would be difficult to come by unless someone owns the first season on DVD. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
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::That wasn't the first episode. It was another episode of the first season. I do remember that scene and will find shots of that eventually.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Saw another episode one day were everyone was holed up in this house and one guy outside was shooting at BGs with a Browning M2 mocked up as a DShK. Sorry I can't help further but I don't watch it enough to describe further. Lot of good shots of M4A1s too. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the page, it said that Mack had a Kimber Warrior, can someone upload some pictures of that? [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 19:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Televised pictures of the Kimber Warrior doesnt look like a real Warrior. First, there is no laynard loop on the bottom of the grip. Second, the finish on the nose is showing some silver, and the KimPro finish doesnt wear like that. Could the show actually use a TLE/RL or maybe a SWAT edition. [[Spades of Columbia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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TLE was used for a few seasons, then switched to the Warrior. Mack uses a normal 1911 most of the time in the newer seasons.&lt;br /&gt;
i do remember one episode. i dont recall the name, but i believe it was called &amp;quot;Stress&amp;quot;. the one were their in africa and find a terrorist. i think Hector had one. and so did Jonas. if at all possible, can someone please add a couple of them that Mack uses them? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 01:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The SWAT custom one doesn't have the rail for optics [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:35, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Size of pics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not sure of the so called &amp;quot;format&amp;quot; of this site but I like the format of the M4 and MP5K section and how it's arranged and want to keep it that way. Also some pics are larger than others. The reason is that if they are smaller than 600 then they would look distorted. This didn't really happen in the old server. but for here I had to make them larger to they won't look so you can't seen any pixal on them. The larger size gives the photos smoother looks.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not a mk 12 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If someone has a better name to call it, then correct it. Saying it isn't something else isn't helping in identifying what the sniper rifle is.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Eat your Hard Boiled out ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Unit section now beats even Hard Boiled with over 60+ guns counted&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nice work, now I can only say that Hard Boiled is the largest movie page. To be fair though, a T.V. show can grow, a movie stays still but anyway, great work.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, nice job. I honestly have to admit that I don't have the patience to do TV show pages just cause they tend to feature lots of guns over the course of several seasons (especially a weapons-heavy military show like ''[[The Unit]]''). Plus, I rarely buy entire seasons of TV shows.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well It was hard to track down the previous season since links to them have poor connection. I had considered renting the DVDs. Either way, this show has an impressive array of firearms and it isn't stopping in what the Unit shoots next.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rearrange of Garand, Winchester, and SKS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently the SKS, M1 Garand and the Winchester 1886 was moved to &amp;quot;other weapons&amp;quot; because they don't fit either section of Assault rifle nor sniper rifle. Hence they would be placed in the same section as the musket rifle would be since they are dated weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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== That´s a L1A1 SLR ==&lt;br /&gt;
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judging by the handguards and the front sight,that´s a L1A1.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two nit picks... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The derringer that Jonas carries in while wearing the tux looks like a High Standard Derringer.  These were double action, tip down, .22 magnum as opposed to the single action, tip up, .41 rimfire of the original Remington design.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the lever action noted as a Winchester 1886 looks more like a Marlin 336.  The 1886's bolt occupied most of the center of the upper reciever, while the Marlin has a round bolt with the ejection port on the right side of the reciever.  In the pic, you can see the silver, circular section right in front of the hammer, which is the bolt.&lt;br /&gt;
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Great site, thanks for all the trouble!&lt;br /&gt;
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==SU-16==&lt;br /&gt;
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The keltec su-16 page says one was used in the show and i dont see it here. Anyone know where it was used? -K9870&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't see an SU-16. Anyone know which episode this supposively have appeared in? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just read over on Imdb that [[The Unit]] has been canceled by CBS. Bummer. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:From what I can see, the cancellation hasn't been decided on yet. But piss on CBS if they do. The Unit is the only show I look forward to every week. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:CBS canceled Jericho and then they canceled The Unit. That network just sucks. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Tell me about it. Two of the best shows in CBS history right there and they're more concerned with &amp;quot;reality&amp;quot; shows like Survivor (which, BTW, are actually filmed on sound stages and not in tropical jungles and whatnot). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need help ID'ing AR-15 Variant. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As seen here: [[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/The_Unit#Unknown_AR-15.2FM4_Variant]]. I'm pretty sure it's not a HK416, M4, or CQBR. If I had to guess I'd say it's a Model 933, but I'm no expert on AR-15s. Any help would be much appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looks like a 933 or equivalent to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I guess it is. Time for another update. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:58, 1 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Optics w/ BUIS an anachronism?==&lt;br /&gt;
How is having BUISs on an optic-equipped weapon an anachronism when military and police commonly use said combo? Hell, even the Barrett 82 has BUISs. No offense to whoever made that statement, but it's gotta be one of the most ridiculous ones I've ever read. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wait, where is this said on the page? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Originally at the top of the Colt 933 section, but it's not there anymore. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Breaking up pages==&lt;br /&gt;
This page is getting too big to add any more items. I would like to break it up into different pages, creating new pages by weapons like the page is now and linking them to the original page.  Has anyone else already started this? [[User: Ben41|Ben41]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:No offense, but screw that. Why break up a page just because it has too many guns? I mean have you seen Miami Vice? Mail Call? Hard boil? Those are pretty big pages too. I don't need to break up my page so that it is easier on your eyes. It's a waste of space and all it that pistol page has done was just waste space on the server. And what do you mean &amp;quot;too big to add anymore items?&amp;quot; There's no limit on how many guns you can put on a page as long as it has been shown on the show. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::However, Miami Vice was broken up into seasons because it took too long for the page to load or it crashed completely.  The Unit doesn't have that problem, so I don't see a need to break it up.  I do disagree about &amp;quot;there being no limit to adding to a page&amp;quot;.  the Miami Vice tv show is a prime example of a page getting so big it becomes unviewable to 99% of the potential users (unless someone has lightning fast internet connection and large RAM, which most people don't have.  But I have no problems loading the Unit page, so I was mystified by the breakup. MPM2008&lt;br /&gt;
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:If the Unit gets more seasons down the road with 10 times more guns, then I'll happily break it up. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Here's hoping someone wises up and gives us a couple more seasons. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small size caps? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who turned all my caps from my standard 500x to this small size? It's ungodly small for a page like this. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think the user thought that shrinking the thumbnails would speed up the loading time.  It doesn't.  The page still has to re-size whatever the size of the original image is.  Also IMFDB's standard is 500px or 600px (for ultra widescreen or high resolution shots).  Again we still need a rules page, to tell the new users what the page standards are. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Breaking up pages (cont.)==&lt;br /&gt;
If you go into the edit page, it gives a warning that the page is over 32kb and recommends that it should be broken up into different pages, but it looks like you want to keep it the way it is.  So go ahead and delete the page with just the pistols on it.  [[User: Ben41|Ben41]]&lt;br /&gt;
:It's at 42kb. Not much larger than recommended. Miami Vice was at 93kb, before it was broken up. Season 1 and 2 are at 40kb apiece. Load time is not bad on The Unit. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then I'll get rid of unnecessary gun caps. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Is the Season 4 DVD box art really necessary? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:25, 27 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, because I put it up as a featured article. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==CM203 entry added==&lt;br /&gt;
I just got Season 4 on DVD, so I figured I'd jump at the chance and get caps of those Cobrays used in S4E7/8. I only took caps of them in episode 7, though, as I figured that was sufficient enough documentation for the article. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Like all armories for film and TV series, these would most likely be Cobray 37mm flare launchers that were designed to look like M203s. This is a common practice to have the appearance of 203s. It is unlikely any of the M203s seen in the series are real M203s.&lt;br /&gt;
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:While that could be the case, the second picture of Blane show that it is an M203, the the C37. But, with the advancement of m203s and RIS systems, a soldier could simply slide on an m203. So, it could also be an airsoft replica if its never fired. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The only episodes I recall seeing Cobrays in are S4E7/8. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the story. Jonas took 2 of these out as a hidden weapon that he kept within a rat trap. He handed on to is wife before he made a disappearing act. I guess in story it's supposed to resemble a Walther TP or TPH.&lt;br /&gt;
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''I don't know dude...these look a lot like the Walther PP or PPK to me.  If these images are from the episode I am thinking of (the finale of Season 1) my reaction, at the time, was &amp;quot;why is Joans carrying such a weak ass pistol as his sidearm???&amp;quot;.''&lt;br /&gt;
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:It looks like a Walther PSM. It's like a PPK but with an extended trigger guard. Hammer looks like it too. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
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::That is a '''Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol'''.  I just checked the lower image against the one I have. Brixia Arms used to make this type of blank gun about 10 years ago, but their quality was pretty bad.  There 'might' be some available, but the majority of the 8mm theatrical blank firing PPKs on the market now are made by '''Kimar''' or '''Voltran'''.  What tips it off, is the writing on the slide (it is identical to the markings on my Brixia Nickel plated Walther PPK theatrical blank gun) and the '''hole''' drilled in the top of the barrel (where the ejection port is).  This hole allows the flash from the blank round to fire '''upwards''' since the barrel is blocked. Also the magazine is a thin single stack type that only holds those skinny 8mm blank rounds. ____[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I put this pic here because I think it's copyrighted.--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== number 3 biggest? ==&lt;br /&gt;
ok both this and stargate SG-1 page both say that they are the 3rd biggest --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 02:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Unit is number 3, by my count there are about 40 more weapons. It's also about twice the physical size (KB) if that matters at all. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 933 RIS? ==&lt;br /&gt;
What is this RIS?&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like DD Mk.18 RIS II but I'm not sure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks more like a Yankee Hill rail. [http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/YHM-Lightweight-Tactical-Free-Float-Mid-Length-p/yhm-9634%20ff%20mid.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown M16 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've uploaded another screencap of the M16 Bob carries in &amp;quot;Natural Selection.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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It's hard to tell since Scott Foley's thumb is in the way, but it appears that this rifle does not have a brass deflector, which would mean that it is not a Model 715 as has been suggested. Is there any official designation for this weapon (A1 sights, no brass deflector, A2 handguards and heavy barrel profile) or is simply a frankengun?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Beretta Cheetah or SIG-Sauer? (updated 8/4/10) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This is one of those hard series since pictures are hard to find and I'm not a master of screenshots.&lt;br /&gt;
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I like to keep the format I've set for the photos of M4s and MP5Ks the way it is because there were a lot of photos and I think the current format for those are appealing.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beretta Cheetah or SIG-Sauer? (updated 8/4/10) ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've added some pics and it looks more like a SIG.  Mack also mentions in the episode that she's carrying a .45 instead of 9mm. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What does this look like? Cause someone say it's a Cheetah. Cause it looks like a USP [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like a Beretta Cheetah in the cap and looked like one last time I watched the episode (which wasn't that long ago). It's too round and curvy to be a USP, which is square and blocky. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then we have a continuity error in the dialogue. In the same episode where she used this gun, Mack asked why is she using a .45 than a 9? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Either that or it's implying her back-up is a larger caliber than her primary (a choice which doesn't make sense to me, either). Maybe just a script error or a moment of miscommunication between the armorer and director/writer/etc.? Heck, maybe the director just ''liked the Cheetah more''? Who knows really. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Her back up is a Derringer gun. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh yeah, now I remember. This scene is one of the more ridiculous ones in the show. Basically, Redcap empties her Cheetah into the soldier's body armor, kicks away his M4 but ignores the fact that the guy has a sidearm, drops the empty magazine from her gun with the guy staring straight up at her, then gets on the radio without reloading her gun first. I literally screamed &amp;quot;you idiot&amp;quot; at the TV. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It was obviously on purpose for the script so she can bust out her back up. And about that episode, the rest of the unit had encountered at least 2 enemies with M4s and extra ammo, yet it never shows them picking up enemy weapons. They were running out during that last stand. That one bad guy's M4 would have been very useful right about then. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Look at the last pic. Thats a SIG for sure. Looks like Jack Bauers SIG from the first few seasons of 24.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Probably Hard Shots to find==&lt;br /&gt;
I only saw the first episode of this show and if memory serves me right, one guy went quail hunting with a pump shotgun (870 I believe) and then was held up by a man with a Mini-14 which I think had a 30 or 40 round magazine. Since the first episode isn't easy to find on the computer, I'm assuming this shot would be difficult to come by unless someone owns the first season on DVD. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
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::That wasn't the first episode. It was another episode of the first season. I do remember that scene and will find shots of that eventually.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Saw another episode one day were everyone was holed up in this house and one guy outside was shooting at BGs with a Browning M2 mocked up as a DShK. Sorry I can't help further but I don't watch it enough to describe further. Lot of good shots of M4A1s too. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the page, it said that Mack had a Kimber Warrior, can someone upload some pictures of that? [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 19:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Televised pictures of the Kimber Warrior doesnt look like a real Warrior. First, there is no laynard loop on the bottom of the grip. Second, the finish on the nose is showing some silver, and the KimPro finish doesnt wear like that. Could the show actually use a TLE/RL or maybe a SWAT edition. [[Spades of Columbia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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TLE was used for a few seasons, then switched to the Warrior. Mack uses a normal 1911 most of the time in the newer seasons.&lt;br /&gt;
i do remember one episode. i dont recall the name, but i believe it was called &amp;quot;Stress&amp;quot;. the one were their in africa and find a terrorist. i think Hector had one. and so did Jonas. if at all possible, can someone please add a couple of them that Mack uses them? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 01:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The SWAT custom one doesn't have the rail for optics [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:35, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Size of pics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not sure of the so called &amp;quot;format&amp;quot; of this site but I like the format of the M4 and MP5K section and how it's arranged and want to keep it that way. Also some pics are larger than others. The reason is that if they are smaller than 600 then they would look distorted. This didn't really happen in the old server. but for here I had to make them larger to they won't look so you can't seen any pixal on them. The larger size gives the photos smoother looks.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not a mk 12 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If someone has a better name to call it, then correct it. Saying it isn't something else isn't helping in identifying what the sniper rifle is.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Eat your Hard Boiled out ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Unit section now beats even Hard Boiled with over 60+ guns counted&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nice work, now I can only say that Hard Boiled is the largest movie page. To be fair though, a T.V. show can grow, a movie stays still but anyway, great work.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, nice job. I honestly have to admit that I don't have the patience to do TV show pages just cause they tend to feature lots of guns over the course of several seasons (especially a weapons-heavy military show like ''[[The Unit]]''). Plus, I rarely buy entire seasons of TV shows.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well It was hard to track down the previous season since links to them have poor connection. I had considered renting the DVDs. Either way, this show has an impressive array of firearms and it isn't stopping in what the Unit shoots next.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rearrange of Garand, Winchester, and SKS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently the SKS, M1 Garand and the Winchester 1886 was moved to &amp;quot;other weapons&amp;quot; because they don't fit either section of Assault rifle nor sniper rifle. Hence they would be placed in the same section as the musket rifle would be since they are dated weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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== That´s a L1A1 SLR ==&lt;br /&gt;
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judging by the handguards and the front sight,that´s a L1A1.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two nit picks... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The derringer that Jonas carries in while wearing the tux looks like a High Standard Derringer.  These were double action, tip down, .22 magnum as opposed to the single action, tip up, .41 rimfire of the original Remington design.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the lever action noted as a Winchester 1886 looks more like a Marlin 336.  The 1886's bolt occupied most of the center of the upper reciever, while the Marlin has a round bolt with the ejection port on the right side of the reciever.  In the pic, you can see the silver, circular section right in front of the hammer, which is the bolt.&lt;br /&gt;
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Great site, thanks for all the trouble!&lt;br /&gt;
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==SU-16==&lt;br /&gt;
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The keltec su-16 page says one was used in the show and i dont see it here. Anyone know where it was used? -K9870&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't see an SU-16. Anyone know which episode this supposively have appeared in? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==R.I.P.==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just read over on Imdb that [[The Unit]] has been canceled by CBS. Bummer. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:From what I can see, the cancellation hasn't been decided on yet. But piss on CBS if they do. The Unit is the only show I look forward to every week. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:CBS canceled Jericho and then they canceled The Unit. That network just sucks. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Tell me about it. Two of the best shows in CBS history right there and they're more concerned with &amp;quot;reality&amp;quot; shows like Survivor (which, BTW, are actually filmed on sound stages and not in tropical jungles and whatnot). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need help ID'ing AR-15 Variant. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As seen here: [[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/The_Unit#Unknown_AR-15.2FM4_Variant]]. I'm pretty sure it's not a HK416, M4, or CQBR. If I had to guess I'd say it's a Model 933, but I'm no expert on AR-15s. Any help would be much appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looks like a 933 or equivalent to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I guess it is. Time for another update. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:58, 1 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Optics w/ BUIS an anachronism?==&lt;br /&gt;
How is having BUISs on an optic-equipped weapon an anachronism when military and police commonly use said combo? Hell, even the Barrett 82 has BUISs. No offense to whoever made that statement, but it's gotta be one of the most ridiculous ones I've ever read. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wait, where is this said on the page? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Originally at the top of the Colt 933 section, but it's not there anymore. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Breaking up pages==&lt;br /&gt;
This page is getting too big to add any more items. I would like to break it up into different pages, creating new pages by weapons like the page is now and linking them to the original page.  Has anyone else already started this? [[User: Ben41|Ben41]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:No offense, but screw that. Why break up a page just because it has too many guns? I mean have you seen Miami Vice? Mail Call? Hard boil? Those are pretty big pages too. I don't need to break up my page so that it is easier on your eyes. It's a waste of space and all it that pistol page has done was just waste space on the server. And what do you mean &amp;quot;too big to add anymore items?&amp;quot; There's no limit on how many guns you can put on a page as long as it has been shown on the show. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::However, Miami Vice was broken up into seasons because it took too long for the page to load or it crashed completely.  The Unit doesn't have that problem, so I don't see a need to break it up.  I do disagree about &amp;quot;there being no limit to adding to a page&amp;quot;.  the Miami Vice tv show is a prime example of a page getting so big it becomes unviewable to 99% of the potential users (unless someone has lightning fast internet connection and large RAM, which most people don't have.  But I have no problems loading the Unit page, so I was mystified by the breakup. MPM2008&lt;br /&gt;
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:If the Unit gets more seasons down the road with 10 times more guns, then I'll happily break it up. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Here's hoping someone wises up and gives us a couple more seasons. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small size caps? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who turned all my caps from my standard 500x to this small size? It's ungodly small for a page like this. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think the user thought that shrinking the thumbnails would speed up the loading time.  It doesn't.  The page still has to re-size whatever the size of the original image is.  Also IMFDB's standard is 500px or 600px (for ultra widescreen or high resolution shots).  Again we still need a rules page, to tell the new users what the page standards are. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Breaking up pages (cont.)==&lt;br /&gt;
If you go into the edit page, it gives a warning that the page is over 32kb and recommends that it should be broken up into different pages, but it looks like you want to keep it the way it is.  So go ahead and delete the page with just the pistols on it.  [[User: Ben41|Ben41]]&lt;br /&gt;
:It's at 42kb. Not much larger than recommended. Miami Vice was at 93kb, before it was broken up. Season 1 and 2 are at 40kb apiece. Load time is not bad on The Unit. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then I'll get rid of unnecessary gun caps. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Is the Season 4 DVD box art really necessary? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:25, 27 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, because I put it up as a featured article. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==CM203 entry added==&lt;br /&gt;
I just got Season 4 on DVD, so I figured I'd jump at the chance and get caps of those Cobrays used in S4E7/8. I only took caps of them in episode 7, though, as I figured that was sufficient enough documentation for the article. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Like all armories for film and TV series, these would most likely be Cobray 37mm flare launchers that were designed to look like M203s. This is a common practice to have the appearance of 203s. It is unlikely any of the M203s seen in the series are real M203s.&lt;br /&gt;
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:While that could be the case, the second picture of Blane show that it is an M203, the the C37. But, with the advancement of m203s and RIS systems, a soldier could simply slide on an m203. So, it could also be an airsoft replica if its never fired. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The only episodes I recall seeing Cobrays in are S4E7/8. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the story. Jonas took 2 of these out as a hidden weapon that he kept within a rat trap. He handed on to is wife before he made a disappearing act. I guess in story it's supposed to resemble a Walther TP or TPH.&lt;br /&gt;
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''I don't know dude...these look a lot like the Walther PP or PPK to me.  If these images are from the episode I am thinking of (the finale of Season 1) my reaction, at the time, was &amp;quot;why is Joans carrying such a weak ass pistol as his sidearm???&amp;quot;.''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Nah, the Walthers don't have that little extra piece of metal extending from the trigger guard to the barrel. But, then again...''&lt;br /&gt;
:It looks like a Walther PSM. It's like a PPK but with an extended trigger guard. Hammer looks like it too. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
::''What is a Walther PSM? Did you mean Walther TP or TPH? PSM is a Russian pistol made by Izhevsk.&lt;br /&gt;
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::That is a '''Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol'''.  I just checked the lower image against the one I have. Brixia Arms used to make this type of blank gun about 10 years ago, but their quality was pretty bad.  There 'might' be some available, but the majority of the 8mm theatrical blank firing PPKs on the market now are made by '''Kimar''' or '''Voltran'''.  What tips it off, is the writing on the slide (it is identical to the markings on my Brixia Nickel plated Walther PPK theatrical blank gun) and the '''hole''' drilled in the top of the barrel (where the ejection port is).  This hole allows the flash from the blank round to fire '''upwards''' since the barrel is blocked. Also the magazine is a thin single stack type that only holds those skinny 8mm blank rounds. ____[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M60E4==&lt;br /&gt;
I put this pic here because I think it's copyrighted.--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unit-MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== number 3 biggest? ==&lt;br /&gt;
ok both this and stargate SG-1 page both say that they are the 3rd biggest --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 02:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Unit is number 3, by my count there are about 40 more weapons. It's also about twice the physical size (KB) if that matters at all. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 933 RIS? ==&lt;br /&gt;
What is this RIS?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UnitAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unit4164.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Looks like DD Mk.18 RIS II but I'm not sure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks more like a Yankee Hill rail. [http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/YHM-Lightweight-Tactical-Free-Float-Mid-Length-p/yhm-9634%20ff%20mid.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown M16 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've uploaded another screencap of the M16 Bob carries in &amp;quot;Natural Selection.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UnitM161.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
It's hard to tell since Scott Foley's thumb is in the way, but it appears that this rifle does not have a brass deflector, which would mean that it is not a Model 715 as has been suggested. Is there any official designation for this weapon (A1 sights, no brass deflector, A2 handguards and heavy barrel profile) or is simply a frankengun?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 01:17, 30 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Theszurk3</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Castle&amp;diff=304120</id>
		<title>Castle</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-22T15:53:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* M4A1 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons were used in the television show ''Castle'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-Title-Card-1.png|thumb|right|450px|''Castle'' (2009 - ????)]]&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
==Glock 17==&lt;br /&gt;
NYPD Detective's Javier Esposito ([[Jon Huertas]]) and Kevin Ryan ([[Seamus Dever]]) use a [[Glock 17]] as their primary sidearms throughout the series. Detective Kate Beckett ([[Stana Katic]]) uses one until &amp;quot;Home is Where the Heart Stops&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Glock 17]] - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-1x06-Beckett-Glock17-1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Beckett taking cover with her Glock 17.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x08-Ryan-Glock17-1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Ryan ([[Seamus Dever]]) holding his Captain (Not visible in this frame), rather than the suspect at gun point.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 19==&lt;br /&gt;
Detective Kate Beckett ([[Stana Katic]]) starts carrying the more compact Glock 19 during the events of &amp;quot;Home is Where the Heart Stops&amp;quot;. Castle ([[Nathan Fillion]]) also uses Kate's while at the range, pretending to be completely inexperienced, then showing extreme proficiency after he's offered crime scene photos. Detectives Ryan and Esposito have started carrying Glock 19's, Det. Tom Demming ([[Michael Trucco]]) also carries one.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Glock 19]] - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x18-Beckett-Glock19-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Beckett holds her gun on a suspect.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-1x07-Castle-Glock23-1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Castle ([[Nathan Fillion]]) at the range with Beckett ([[Stana Katic]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 26==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Glock 26]] serves as Det. Beckett's backup gun, it's most notably seen when she hands it to Castle to defend himself from the &amp;quot;Tick, Tick, Tick...&amp;quot; &amp;amp; &amp;quot;Boom!&amp;quot; killer when they enter the warehouse he's hiding in. He uses it to shoot Kate's Glock 19 out of the killers hand. After wards Castle reveals that &amp;quot;he was aiming for his head&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Noteworthy is that his ''&amp;quot;Aiming for the head&amp;quot;'' remark is the third [[Firefly]]/[[Serenity]] reference in the series. The first two took place during the episode &amp;quot;Vampire Weekend&amp;quot; when Castle wore his Mal costume, and the second was a catalyzer sitting on his bookshelf. A catalyzer is required for any Firefly class ship to run, and was a large part of'' Out of Gas' ''story arc.''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock 26.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|[[Glock 26]] - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x18-Beckett-Glock26-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|&amp;quot;Want me to hold it while you tie your shoe?&amp;quot; - Beckett hands Castle her Glock 26.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x18-Castle-Glock26-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle keeping Kate's Glock 26 ready.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Star Firestar M-43==&lt;br /&gt;
Harrison Tisdale ([[Brian Avers]]) uses a stainless one in the pilot episode &amp;quot;Flowers for Your Grave&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Star Firestar M-43.jpg|350px|thumb|none|[[Star Firestar M-43]] - 9mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-1x01-Tisdale-Firestar-1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Tisdale with his Firestar to Castle's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP==&lt;br /&gt;
A two tone USP was used by the &amp;quot;Deep in Death&amp;quot; killer to threaten Castle, then by Beckett after she disarms him.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:USP45SS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x01-HKUSP-1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|‎The killer aiming his USP at Castle just after Beckett walks in.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x01-Becket-HKUSP-1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Beckett ([[Stana Katic]]) holding the killers own USP at his head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P226==&lt;br /&gt;
NYPD officers are occasionally seen with this weapon. After disarming an officer, Rathborne holds Castle hostage with one.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[SIG-Sauer P226]] - 9x19mm, .357 SIG &amp;amp; .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x09-SIGP226-1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Unidentified NYPD officer holding his weapon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P250==&lt;br /&gt;
The victim had this in his waistband in the episode &amp;quot;Sucker Punch&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P250-F-Nitron-detail-L.jpg|thumb|350px|none|[[SIG-Sauer P250]] - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Walther PP==&lt;br /&gt;
Scarlett Price ([[Michaela McManus]]) used this pistol in &amp;quot;Love Me Dead&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walther-PP-Post-War.jpg|thumb|350px|none|[[Walther_PP_Pistol_Series#Walther_PP|Walther PP]] - 32 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x09-WaltherPP-1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Scarlett Price ([[Michaela McManus]]) holding the Walther PP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Walther PPK==&lt;br /&gt;
IA Lt. Stan Holliwell ([[Scott Cohen]]) uses a suppressed PPK near the end of the episode &amp;quot;Den of Thieves&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WaltherPPK.jpg|thumb|350px|none|[[Walther_PP_Pistol_Series#Walther_PPK|Walther PPK]] - 32 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-1x2x-PPK-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Lt. Holliwell holds the PPK behind his back as he's confronted by Beckett and Castle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus Model 85 Modified==&lt;br /&gt;
Castle ([[Nathan Fillion]]) is briefly seen with his Firefly modified Taurus 85 when trying his Mal costume on during the opening sequence of &amp;quot;Vampire Weekend&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Firefly1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mal's modified [[Taurus Model 85]] from Firefly.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x06-Castle-Taurus85-1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Castle after bursting out of his office in his Mal costume and brandishing his custom Taurus.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt Detective Special==&lt;br /&gt;
NYPD Captain Roy Montgomery ([[Ruben Santiago-Hudson]]) uses a [[Colt Detective Special]] in the episode &amp;quot;Sucker Punch&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtDS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Colt Detective Special]] - .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 625==&lt;br /&gt;
The weapon used to kill Max Heller ([[Creagen Dow]]) in &amp;quot;Hedge Fund Homeboys&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;WModel625.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|[[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 625]] in 3&amp;quot; barrel model - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15==&lt;br /&gt;
A Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 is used by the killer in &amp;quot;One Man's Treasure&amp;quot;. (I'm pretty sure the gun in the bag is a Model 15.  Note the lack of an ejector rod shroud found on the Model 19)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;WModel15-4.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_15|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 Combat Masterpiece]] with Hogue Grips - .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x10-SWM19-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The killers Model 19 being presented to him in an evidence bag.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger P90==&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;Tick, Tick, Tick...&amp;quot; &amp;amp; &amp;quot;Boom!&amp;quot; killer uses this during his activities in &amp;quot;Boom!&amp;quot;, FBI Special Agent Jordan Shaw ([[Dana Delany]]) briefly uses it near the end of the same episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RugerP90Side.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Ruger_P-series_pistol#Ruger_P90|Ruger P90]] - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x18-Shaw-RugerP90-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Special Agent Shaw holding the P90 on the killer.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x18-RugerP90-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The killers P90 sitting on a makeshift table.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Other Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2==&lt;br /&gt;
An MP5A2 with a weapon light, and Navy trigger group was used by a drug dealer while stealing a victims body in the season 2 premiere, &amp;quot;Deep in Death&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SWATMP5.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2]] - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K-PDW==&lt;br /&gt;
During the events of &amp;quot;A Deadly Game&amp;quot;, an MP5K-PDW is found in Roger Farraday's ([[Dean Cates]]) car. It was issued to him as part of a &amp;quot;spycation&amp;quot; where Farraday, under the guise of CIA hitman Sean Caldwell, was supposed to &amp;quot;assassinate&amp;quot; a foriegn minister with it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K-PDW]] - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x24-MP5KPDW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MP5K-PDW laying on the front passenger floorboard.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Esposito ([[Jon Huertas]]), as well as most NYPD ESU officers use M4A1's when needed. FBI HRT agents can be seen wielding both M4A1's and HK416's during the episodes &amp;quot;Tick, Tick, Tick...&amp;quot; &amp;amp; &amp;quot;Boom!&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[M4A1]] - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x09-Esposito-M4A1-2.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Esposito ([[Jon Huertas]]) with his M4A1 after bursting through a door. Note the white Armalite trademarks, showing this is a Classic Army airsoft replica.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M16A2==&lt;br /&gt;
Esposito ([[Jon Huertas]]) is seen with one during Castle's Halloween party, dressed up as his ''[[Generation Kill]]'' alter-ego Sgt. Antonio Espera.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[M16A2]] w/ M203 grenade launcher - 5.56x45mm/40mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK416==&lt;br /&gt;
While not clearly seen, several FBI HRT agents use HK416's with 10&amp;quot; barrels.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Heckler and Koch 416.jpg|thumb|none|350px|[[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK416]] - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Castle-2x18-HRT-HK416-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An FBI HRT operator moving to his position with his HK416 in the ready position.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
Esposito ([[Jon Huertas]]) uses a [[Remington 870]] on multiple occasions throughout the season.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870NewModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|[[Remington 870|Remington 870 Police Magnum]] - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500==&lt;br /&gt;
The victim had this in his apartment in the episode &amp;quot;Sucker Punch&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|350px|none|[[Mossberg 500]] - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Television]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Crime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comedy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Mystery]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Theszurk3</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Inception&amp;diff=301274</id>
		<title>Inception</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-16T14:11:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Glock 17 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Film Title|Inception}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:InceptionCoverArt.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Inception '''(2010)''''']]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''All screencaps come from the official clips and trailers.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=all&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beretta Px4 Storm Special Duty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[Beretta Px4 Storm]] is carried by Cobb ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PX$SD.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|Beretta Px4 Storm Special Duty, .45 ACP w/ desert tan frame.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception-PX4-publicitystill.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cobb draws his Beretta Storm and Arthur ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) with his Glock in a production still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:INCPT-92FS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note extended barrel and rail.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cobb loads his Beretta...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...and chambers it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:INCPT-PX4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cobb ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) aiming his Px4 w/ suppressor in a promotional still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cobb fires his suppressed Beretta Px4.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception-Px4Suprressor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cobb threads a suppressor onto his Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beretta 92FS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Saito ([[Ken Watanabe]]) is seen with a [[Beretta 92FS]] in the trailer. Cobb is seen with one on the poster.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:INCPT-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Saito aims a Beretta 92FS.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sawed-Off Double Barreled Shotgun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the men riding the bike carries a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun#Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)|Sawed-Off Double Barrel Shotgun]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Remington SBS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington Spartan Sawed Off shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:INCPT-Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The man draws out his sawed off shotgun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Incept1.JPG|thumb|none|600px|The man with the sawed-off shotgun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Glock 17 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[Glock 17]] is used by Arthur ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) in the trailer.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Generation 3 Glock 17 9x19mm. Note the finger grooves, thumb reliefs, and accessory rail on the frame, which differentiate it from the older model.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Incept.JPG|thumb|none|600px|The man on the left appears to have a Glock pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception-PX4-publicitystill.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cobb and Arthur ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) in a publicity still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Arthur fires his Glock 17. Judging by barrel size, this is a Non-gun or flashpaper gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== H&amp;amp;K Pistol ==&lt;br /&gt;
Eames ([[Tom Hardy]]) draws what appears to be either a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP|H&amp;amp;K USP Compact]] or a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch P2000]] judging by the trigger guard and ribs on the slide.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:INCPT-Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eames ([[Tom Hardy]]) fires his pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Milkor MGL==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Milkor MGL]] is used by Eames ([[Tom Hardy]]) to take out a sniper hiding behind power lines. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MGL32.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Milkor MGL.]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|&amp;quot;Mustn't be afraid to dream bigger, darling.&amp;quot; Eames fires his Milkor MGL.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== FN SCAR-L ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[FN SCAR-L]] with an ACOG scope is used by Arthur ([[Joseph Gordon-Levitt]]) to take out some snipers before he is interrupted by Eames ([[Tom Hardy]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FN SCAR-L (Standard).jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN SCAR-L, 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Arthur firing his SCAR-L.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception-SCAR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Arthur fires his FN SCAR-L at snipers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blaser R93 LRS2 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle|Blaser R93 LRS2]] is used by Cobb ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) in the trailer.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Blaser R93 LRS2''' Precision Sniper Rifle - .338 Lapua Magnum.  The rifle is usually  outfitted with either a Parker Hale or Harris Bipod.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cobb with the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cobb with the rifle in a publicity still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== SIG-Sauer P232 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A [[SIG-Sauer P230|SIG-Sauer P232]] is used by Mal ([[Marion Cotillard]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SigP232.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Sig P232 - Stainless Steel finish -  .380 acp/9mm kurz.  Built between 1996-Present.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mal holds her SIG in a publicity still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G3SG/1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the snipers not associated with the dream are seen attacking Cobb's group with a [[G3#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G3SG/1|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G3SG/1]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:H&amp;amp;KSG1.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G3SG/1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception-G3sniper.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The sniper runs to cover with a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G3SG/1 in his hands.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Sniper Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
An unknown sniper rifle is used by one of the snipers attacking a warehouse.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Inception-sniper.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The sniper aims his sniper rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Christopher Nolan]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Thriller]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Theszurk3</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Unit&amp;diff=289123</id>
		<title>Talk:The Unit</title>
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		<updated>2010-06-19T03:30:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Probably Hard Shots to find */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This is one of those hard series since pictures are hard to find and I'm not a master of screenshots.&lt;br /&gt;
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I like to keep the format I've set for the photos of M4s and MP5Ks the way it is because there were a lot of photos and I think the current format for those are appealing.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Probably Hard Shots to find==&lt;br /&gt;
I only saw the first episode of this show and if memory serves me right, one guy went quail hunting with a pump shotgun (870 I believe) and then was held up by a man with a Mini-14 which I think had a 30 or 40 round magazine. Since the first episode isn't easy to find on the computer, I'm assuming this shot would be difficult to come by unless someone owns the first season on DVD. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
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::That wasn't the first episode. It was another episode of the first season. I do remember that scene and will find shots of that eventually.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Saw another episode one day were everyone was holed up in this house and one guy outside was shooting at BGs with a Browning M2 mocked up as a DShK. Sorry I can't help further but I don't watch it enough to describe further. Lot of good shots of M4A1s too. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the page, it said that Mack had a Kimber Warrior, can someone upload some pictures of that? [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 19:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Televised pictures of the Kimber Warrior doesnt look like a real Warrior. First, there is no laynard loop on the bottom of the grip. Second, the finish on the nose is showing some silver, and the KimPro finish doesnt wear like that. Could the show actually use a TLE/RL or maybe a SWAT edition. [[Spades of Columbia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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TLE was used for a few seasons, then switched to the Warrior. Mack uses a normal 1911 most of the time in the newer seasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Size of pics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not sure of the so called &amp;quot;format&amp;quot; of this site but I like the format of the M4 and MP5K section and how it's arranged and want to keep it that way. Also some pics are larger than others. The reason is that if they are smaller than 600 then they would look distorted. This didn't really happen in the old server. but for here I had to make them larger to they won't look so you can't seen any pixal on them. The larger size gives the photos smoother looks.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not a mk 12 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If someone has a better name to call it, then correct it. Saying it isn't something else isn't helping in identifying what the sniper rifle is.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Eat your Hard Boiled out ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Unit section now beats even Hard Boiled with over 60+ guns counted&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nice work, now I can only say that Hard Boiled is the largest movie page. To be fair though, a T.V. show can grow, a movie stays still but anyway, great work.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, nice job. I honestly have to admit that I don't have the patience to do TV show pages just cause they tend to feature lots of guns over the course of several seasons (especially a weapons-heavy military show like ''[[The Unit]]''). Plus, I rarely buy entire seasons of TV shows.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well It was hard to track down the previous season since links to them have poor connection. I had considered renting the DVDs. Either way, this show has an impressive array of firearms and it isn't stopping in what the Unit shoots next.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rearrange of Garand, Winchester, and SKS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently the SKS, M1 Garand and the Winchester 1886 was moved to &amp;quot;other weapons&amp;quot; because they don't fit either section of Assault rifle nor sniper rifle. Hence they would be placed in the same section as the musket rifle would be since they are dated weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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== That´s a L1A1 SLR ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UnitFAL5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
judging by the handguards and the front sight,that´s a L1A1.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's still a FAL&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two nit picks... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The derringer that Jonas carries in while wearing the tux looks like a High Standard Derringer.  These were double action, tip down, .22 magnum as opposed to the single action, tip up, .41 rimfire of the original Remington design.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/SN4dXMHNTUI/AAAAAAAAAj4/z2jZ_wOCmls/s1600/High%2BStandard%2B-%2BDerringer%2BMod.%2BDM%2B101%2B-%2Bpistol%2B-%2B.22%2BMagnum.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the lever action noted as a Winchester 1886 looks more like a Marlin 336.  The 1886's bolt occupied most of the center of the upper reciever, while the Marlin has a round bolt with the ejection port on the right side of the reciever.  In the pic, you can see the silver, circular section right in front of the hammer, which is the bolt.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.outdoorsurvivalinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/start1_med1.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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Great site, thanks for all the trouble!&lt;br /&gt;
Doug K&lt;br /&gt;
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==SU-16==&lt;br /&gt;
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The keltec su-16 page says one was used in the show and i dont see it here. Anyone know where it was used? -K9870&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't see an SU-16. Anyone know which episode this supposively have appeared in? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==R.I.P.==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just read over on Imdb that [[The Unit]] has been canceled by CBS. Bummer. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:From what I can see, the cancellation hasn't been decided on yet. But piss on CBS if they do. The Unit is the only show I look forward to every week. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:CBS canceled Jericho and then they canceled The Unit. That network just sucks. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Tell me about it. Two of the best shows in CBS history right there and they're more concerned with &amp;quot;reality&amp;quot; shows like Survivor (which, BTW, are actually filmed on sound stages and not in tropical jungles and whatnot). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need help ID'ing AR-15 Variant. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As seen here: [[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/The_Unit#Unknown_AR-15.2FM4_Variant]]. I'm pretty sure it's not a HK416, M4, or CQBR. If I had to guess I'd say it's a Model 933, but I'm no expert on AR-15s. Any help would be much appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UnitAR4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looks like a 933 or equivalent to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I guess it is. Time for another update. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:58, 1 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Optics w/ BUIS an anachronism?==&lt;br /&gt;
How is having BUISs on an optic-equipped weapon an anachronism when military and police commonly use said combo? Hell, even the Barrett 82 has BUISs. No offense to whoever made that statement, but it's gotta be one of the most ridiculous ones I've ever read. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wait, where is this said on the page? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Originally at the top of the Colt 933 section, but it's not there anymore. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Breaking up pages==&lt;br /&gt;
This page is getting too big to add any more items. I would like to break it up into different pages, creating new pages by weapons like the page is now and linking them to the original page.  Has anyone else already started this? [[User: Ben41|Ben41]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:No offense, but screw that. Why break up a page just because it has too many guns? I mean have you seen Miami Vice? Mail Call? Hard boil? Those are pretty big pages too. I don't need to break up my page so that it is easier on your eyes. It's a waste of space and all it that pistol page has done was just waste space on the server. And what do you mean &amp;quot;too big to add anymore items?&amp;quot; There's no limit on how many guns you can put on a page as long as it has been shown on the show. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::However, Miami Vice was broken up into seasons because it took too long for the page to load or it crashed completely.  The Unit doesn't have that problem, so I don't see a need to break it up.  I do disagree about &amp;quot;there being no limit to adding to a page&amp;quot;.  the Miami Vice tv show is a prime example of a page getting so big it becomes unviewable to 99% of the potential users (unless someone has lightning fast internet connection and large RAM, which most people don't have.  But I have no problems loading the Unit page, so I was mystified by the breakup. MPM2008&lt;br /&gt;
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:If the Unit gets more seasons down the road with 10 times more guns, then I'll happily break it up. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Here's hoping someone wises up and gives us a couple more seasons. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small size caps? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who turned all my caps from my standard 500x to this small size? It's ungodly small for a page like this. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think the user thought that shrinking the thumbnails would speed up the loading time.  It doesn't.  The page still has to re-size whatever the size of the original image is.  Also IMFDB's standard is 500px or 600px (for ultra widescreen or high resolution shots).  Again we still need a rules page, to tell the new users what the page standards are. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Breaking up pages (cont.)==&lt;br /&gt;
If you go into the edit page, it gives a warning that the page is over 32kb and recommends that it should be broken up into different pages, but it looks like you want to keep it the way it is.  So go ahead and delete the page with just the pistols on it.  [[User: Ben41|Ben41]]&lt;br /&gt;
:It's at 42kb. Not much larger than recommended. Miami Vice was at 93kb, before it was broken up. Season 1 and 2 are at 40kb apiece. Load time is not bad on The Unit. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then I'll get rid of unnecessary gun caps. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Is the Season 4 DVD box art really necessary? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:25, 27 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, because I put it up as a featured article. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==CM203 entry added==&lt;br /&gt;
I just got Season 4 on DVD, so I figured I'd jump at the chance and get caps of those Cobrays used in S4E7/8. I only took caps of them in episode 7, though, as I figured that was sufficient enough documentation for the article. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Like all armories for film and TV series, these would most likely be Cobray 37mm flare launchers that were designed to look like M203s. This is a common practice to have the appearance of 203s. It is unlikely any of the M203s seen in the series are real M203s.&lt;br /&gt;
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:While that could be the case, the second picture of Blane show that it is an M203, the the C37. But, with the advancement of m203s and RIS systems, a soldier could simply slide on an m203. So, it could also be an airsoft replica if its never fired. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The only episodes I recall seeing Cobrays in are S4E7/8. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the story. Jonas took 2 of these out as a hidden weapon that he kept within a rat trap. He handed on to is wife before he made a disappearing act. I guess in story it's supposed to resemble a Walther TP or TPH.&lt;br /&gt;
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''I don't know dude...these look a lot like the Walther PP or PPK to me.  If these images are from the episode I am thinking of (the finale of Season 1) my reaction, at the time, was &amp;quot;why is Joans carrying such a weak ass pistol as his sidearm???&amp;quot;.''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Nah, the Walthers don't have that little extra piece of metal extending from the trigger guard to the barrel. But, then again...''&lt;br /&gt;
:It looks like a Walther PSM. It's like a PPK but with an extended trigger guard. Hammer looks like it too. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
::''What is a Walther PSM? Did you mean Walther TP or TPH? PSM is a Russian pistol made by Izhevsk.&lt;br /&gt;
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::That is a '''Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol'''.  I just checked the lower image against the one I have. Brixia Arms used to make this type of blank gun about 10 years ago, but their quality was pretty bad.  There 'might' be some available, but the majority of the 8mm theatrical blank firing PPKs on the market now are made by '''Kimar''' or '''Voltran'''.  What tips it off, is the writing on the slide (it is identical to the markings on my Brixia Nickel plated Walther PPK theatrical blank gun) and the '''hole''' drilled in the top of the barrel (where the ejection port is).  This hole allows the flash from the blank round to fire '''upwards''' since the barrel is blocked. Also the magazine is a thin single stack type that only holds those skinny 8mm blank rounds. ____[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M60E4==&lt;br /&gt;
I put this pic here because I think it's copyrighted.--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unit-MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beretta Cheetah? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UnitS4 004.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bridget with her Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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What does this look like? Cause someone say it's a Cheetah. Cause it looks like a USP [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like a Beretta Cheetah in the cap and looked like one last time I watched the episode (which wasn't that long ago). It's too round and curvy to be a USP, which is square and blocky. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then we have a continuity error in the dialogue. In the same episode where she used this gun, Mack asked why is she using a .45 than a 9? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Either that or it's implying her back-up is a larger caliber than her primary (a choice which doesn't make sense to me, either). Maybe just a script error or a moment of miscommunication between the armorer and director/writer/etc.? Heck, maybe the director just ''liked the Cheetah more''? Who knows really. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Her back up is a Derringer gun. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh yeah, now I remember. This scene is one of the more ridiculous ones in the show. Basically, Redcap empties her Cheetah into the soldier's body armor, kicks away his M4 but ignores the fact that the guy has a sidearm, drops the empty magazine from her gun with the guy staring straight up at her, then gets on the radio without reloading her gun first. I literally screamed &amp;quot;you idiot&amp;quot; at the TV. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It was obviously on purpose for the script so she can bust out her back up. And about that episode, the rest of the unit had encountered at least 2 enemies with M4s and extra ammo, yet it never shows them picking up enemy weapons. They were running out during that last stand. That one bad guy's M4 would have been very useful right about then. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== number 3 biggest? ==&lt;br /&gt;
ok both this and stargate SG-1 page both say that they are the 3rd biggest --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 02:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Unit is number 3, by my count there are about 40 more weapons. It's also about twice the physical size (KB) if that matters at all. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 933 RIS? ==&lt;br /&gt;
What is this RIS?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UnitAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unit4164.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Looks like DD Mk.18 RIS II but I'm not sure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks more like a Yankee Hill rail. [http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/YHM-Lightweight-Tactical-Free-Float-Mid-Length-p/yhm-9634%20ff%20mid.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Theszurk3</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Unit&amp;diff=289122</id>
		<title>Talk:The Unit</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Unit&amp;diff=289122"/>
		<updated>2010-06-19T03:30:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Probably Hard Shots to find */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This is one of those hard series since pictures are hard to find and I'm not a master of screenshots.&lt;br /&gt;
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I like to keep the format I've set for the photos of M4s and MP5Ks the way it is because there were a lot of photos and I think the current format for those are appealing.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Probably Hard Shots to find==&lt;br /&gt;
I only saw the first episode of this show and if memory serves me right, one guy went quail hunting with a pump shotgun (870 I believe) and then was held up by a man with a Mini-14 which I think had a 30 or 40 round magazine. Since the first episode isn't easy to find on the computer, I'm assuming this shot would be difficult to come by unless someone owns the first season on DVD. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
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::That wasn't the first episode. It was another episode of the first season. I do remember that scene and will find shots of that eventually.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Saw another episode one day were everyone was holed up in this house and one guy outside was shooting at BGs with a Browning M2 mocked up as a DShK. Sorry I can't help further but I don't watch it enough to describe further. Lot of good shots of M4A1s too. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the page, it said that Mack had a Kimber Warrior, can someone upload some pictures of that? [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 19:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Televised pictures of the Kimber Warrior doesnt look like a real Warrior. First, there is no laynard loop on the bottom of the grip. Second, the finish on the nose is showing some silver, and the KimPro finish doesnt wear like that. Could the show actually use a TLE/RL or maybe a SWAT edition. [[Spades of Columbia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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TLE was used for a few seasons, then switched to the Warrior. Makes uses a normal 1911 most of the time in the newer seasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Size of pics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not sure of the so called &amp;quot;format&amp;quot; of this site but I like the format of the M4 and MP5K section and how it's arranged and want to keep it that way. Also some pics are larger than others. The reason is that if they are smaller than 600 then they would look distorted. This didn't really happen in the old server. but for here I had to make them larger to they won't look so you can't seen any pixal on them. The larger size gives the photos smoother looks.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not a mk 12 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If someone has a better name to call it, then correct it. Saying it isn't something else isn't helping in identifying what the sniper rifle is.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Eat your Hard Boiled out ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Unit section now beats even Hard Boiled with over 60+ guns counted&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nice work, now I can only say that Hard Boiled is the largest movie page. To be fair though, a T.V. show can grow, a movie stays still but anyway, great work.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, nice job. I honestly have to admit that I don't have the patience to do TV show pages just cause they tend to feature lots of guns over the course of several seasons (especially a weapons-heavy military show like ''[[The Unit]]''). Plus, I rarely buy entire seasons of TV shows.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well It was hard to track down the previous season since links to them have poor connection. I had considered renting the DVDs. Either way, this show has an impressive array of firearms and it isn't stopping in what the Unit shoots next.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rearrange of Garand, Winchester, and SKS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently the SKS, M1 Garand and the Winchester 1886 was moved to &amp;quot;other weapons&amp;quot; because they don't fit either section of Assault rifle nor sniper rifle. Hence they would be placed in the same section as the musket rifle would be since they are dated weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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== That´s a L1A1 SLR ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UnitFAL5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
judging by the handguards and the front sight,that´s a L1A1.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's still a FAL&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two nit picks... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The derringer that Jonas carries in while wearing the tux looks like a High Standard Derringer.  These were double action, tip down, .22 magnum as opposed to the single action, tip up, .41 rimfire of the original Remington design.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/SN4dXMHNTUI/AAAAAAAAAj4/z2jZ_wOCmls/s1600/High%2BStandard%2B-%2BDerringer%2BMod.%2BDM%2B101%2B-%2Bpistol%2B-%2B.22%2BMagnum.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the lever action noted as a Winchester 1886 looks more like a Marlin 336.  The 1886's bolt occupied most of the center of the upper reciever, while the Marlin has a round bolt with the ejection port on the right side of the reciever.  In the pic, you can see the silver, circular section right in front of the hammer, which is the bolt.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.outdoorsurvivalinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/start1_med1.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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Great site, thanks for all the trouble!&lt;br /&gt;
Doug K&lt;br /&gt;
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==SU-16==&lt;br /&gt;
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The keltec su-16 page says one was used in the show and i dont see it here. Anyone know where it was used? -K9870&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't see an SU-16. Anyone know which episode this supposively have appeared in? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==R.I.P.==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just read over on Imdb that [[The Unit]] has been canceled by CBS. Bummer. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:From what I can see, the cancellation hasn't been decided on yet. But piss on CBS if they do. The Unit is the only show I look forward to every week. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:CBS canceled Jericho and then they canceled The Unit. That network just sucks. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Tell me about it. Two of the best shows in CBS history right there and they're more concerned with &amp;quot;reality&amp;quot; shows like Survivor (which, BTW, are actually filmed on sound stages and not in tropical jungles and whatnot). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need help ID'ing AR-15 Variant. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As seen here: [[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/The_Unit#Unknown_AR-15.2FM4_Variant]]. I'm pretty sure it's not a HK416, M4, or CQBR. If I had to guess I'd say it's a Model 933, but I'm no expert on AR-15s. Any help would be much appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UnitAR4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looks like a 933 or equivalent to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I guess it is. Time for another update. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:58, 1 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Optics w/ BUIS an anachronism?==&lt;br /&gt;
How is having BUISs on an optic-equipped weapon an anachronism when military and police commonly use said combo? Hell, even the Barrett 82 has BUISs. No offense to whoever made that statement, but it's gotta be one of the most ridiculous ones I've ever read. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wait, where is this said on the page? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Originally at the top of the Colt 933 section, but it's not there anymore. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Breaking up pages==&lt;br /&gt;
This page is getting too big to add any more items. I would like to break it up into different pages, creating new pages by weapons like the page is now and linking them to the original page.  Has anyone else already started this? [[User: Ben41|Ben41]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:No offense, but screw that. Why break up a page just because it has too many guns? I mean have you seen Miami Vice? Mail Call? Hard boil? Those are pretty big pages too. I don't need to break up my page so that it is easier on your eyes. It's a waste of space and all it that pistol page has done was just waste space on the server. And what do you mean &amp;quot;too big to add anymore items?&amp;quot; There's no limit on how many guns you can put on a page as long as it has been shown on the show. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::However, Miami Vice was broken up into seasons because it took too long for the page to load or it crashed completely.  The Unit doesn't have that problem, so I don't see a need to break it up.  I do disagree about &amp;quot;there being no limit to adding to a page&amp;quot;.  the Miami Vice tv show is a prime example of a page getting so big it becomes unviewable to 99% of the potential users (unless someone has lightning fast internet connection and large RAM, which most people don't have.  But I have no problems loading the Unit page, so I was mystified by the breakup. MPM2008&lt;br /&gt;
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:If the Unit gets more seasons down the road with 10 times more guns, then I'll happily break it up. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Here's hoping someone wises up and gives us a couple more seasons. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small size caps? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who turned all my caps from my standard 500x to this small size? It's ungodly small for a page like this. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think the user thought that shrinking the thumbnails would speed up the loading time.  It doesn't.  The page still has to re-size whatever the size of the original image is.  Also IMFDB's standard is 500px or 600px (for ultra widescreen or high resolution shots).  Again we still need a rules page, to tell the new users what the page standards are. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Breaking up pages (cont.)==&lt;br /&gt;
If you go into the edit page, it gives a warning that the page is over 32kb and recommends that it should be broken up into different pages, but it looks like you want to keep it the way it is.  So go ahead and delete the page with just the pistols on it.  [[User: Ben41|Ben41]]&lt;br /&gt;
:It's at 42kb. Not much larger than recommended. Miami Vice was at 93kb, before it was broken up. Season 1 and 2 are at 40kb apiece. Load time is not bad on The Unit. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then I'll get rid of unnecessary gun caps. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Is the Season 4 DVD box art really necessary? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:25, 27 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, because I put it up as a featured article. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==CM203 entry added==&lt;br /&gt;
I just got Season 4 on DVD, so I figured I'd jump at the chance and get caps of those Cobrays used in S4E7/8. I only took caps of them in episode 7, though, as I figured that was sufficient enough documentation for the article. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Like all armories for film and TV series, these would most likely be Cobray 37mm flare launchers that were designed to look like M203s. This is a common practice to have the appearance of 203s. It is unlikely any of the M203s seen in the series are real M203s.&lt;br /&gt;
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:While that could be the case, the second picture of Blane show that it is an M203, the the C37. But, with the advancement of m203s and RIS systems, a soldier could simply slide on an m203. So, it could also be an airsoft replica if its never fired. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The only episodes I recall seeing Cobrays in are S4E7/8. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the story. Jonas took 2 of these out as a hidden weapon that he kept within a rat trap. He handed on to is wife before he made a disappearing act. I guess in story it's supposed to resemble a Walther TP or TPH.&lt;br /&gt;
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''I don't know dude...these look a lot like the Walther PP or PPK to me.  If these images are from the episode I am thinking of (the finale of Season 1) my reaction, at the time, was &amp;quot;why is Joans carrying such a weak ass pistol as his sidearm???&amp;quot;.''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Nah, the Walthers don't have that little extra piece of metal extending from the trigger guard to the barrel. But, then again...''&lt;br /&gt;
:It looks like a Walther PSM. It's like a PPK but with an extended trigger guard. Hammer looks like it too. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
::''What is a Walther PSM? Did you mean Walther TP or TPH? PSM is a Russian pistol made by Izhevsk.&lt;br /&gt;
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::That is a '''Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol'''.  I just checked the lower image against the one I have. Brixia Arms used to make this type of blank gun about 10 years ago, but their quality was pretty bad.  There 'might' be some available, but the majority of the 8mm theatrical blank firing PPKs on the market now are made by '''Kimar''' or '''Voltran'''.  What tips it off, is the writing on the slide (it is identical to the markings on my Brixia Nickel plated Walther PPK theatrical blank gun) and the '''hole''' drilled in the top of the barrel (where the ejection port is).  This hole allows the flash from the blank round to fire '''upwards''' since the barrel is blocked. Also the magazine is a thin single stack type that only holds those skinny 8mm blank rounds. ____[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M60E4==&lt;br /&gt;
I put this pic here because I think it's copyrighted.--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unit-MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beretta Cheetah? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UnitS4 004.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bridget with her Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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What does this look like? Cause someone say it's a Cheetah. Cause it looks like a USP [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like a Beretta Cheetah in the cap and looked like one last time I watched the episode (which wasn't that long ago). It's too round and curvy to be a USP, which is square and blocky. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then we have a continuity error in the dialogue. In the same episode where she used this gun, Mack asked why is she using a .45 than a 9? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Either that or it's implying her back-up is a larger caliber than her primary (a choice which doesn't make sense to me, either). Maybe just a script error or a moment of miscommunication between the armorer and director/writer/etc.? Heck, maybe the director just ''liked the Cheetah more''? Who knows really. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Her back up is a Derringer gun. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh yeah, now I remember. This scene is one of the more ridiculous ones in the show. Basically, Redcap empties her Cheetah into the soldier's body armor, kicks away his M4 but ignores the fact that the guy has a sidearm, drops the empty magazine from her gun with the guy staring straight up at her, then gets on the radio without reloading her gun first. I literally screamed &amp;quot;you idiot&amp;quot; at the TV. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It was obviously on purpose for the script so she can bust out her back up. And about that episode, the rest of the unit had encountered at least 2 enemies with M4s and extra ammo, yet it never shows them picking up enemy weapons. They were running out during that last stand. That one bad guy's M4 would have been very useful right about then. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== number 3 biggest? ==&lt;br /&gt;
ok both this and stargate SG-1 page both say that they are the 3rd biggest --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 02:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Unit is number 3, by my count there are about 40 more weapons. It's also about twice the physical size (KB) if that matters at all. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 933 RIS? ==&lt;br /&gt;
What is this RIS?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UnitAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unit4164.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Looks like DD Mk.18 RIS II but I'm not sure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks more like a Yankee Hill rail. [http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/YHM-Lightweight-Tactical-Free-Float-Mid-Length-p/yhm-9634%20ff%20mid.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BreakingBadM1911.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses this pistol as his sidearm.  Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
Hank Schrader shows off this pistol during the party in the first episode.  He uses it in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. Anyone else notice the Glock slide didnt blow back when he fired?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock during the first episode, &amp;quot;Pilot&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by rival drug dealer. Used by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by Jesse. Never got a chance to fire it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==HK G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
There are a G36k and an AK beneath it.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==HK MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns.&lt;br /&gt;
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==AK-Type Assault Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is propped up against a pick-up truck.&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns.&lt;br /&gt;
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==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
This is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying right behind the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN P90/PS90==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns. It is impossible to determine if it is a P90 or PS90, since only the back end is seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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==HK UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BreakingBadM1911.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses this pistol as his sidearm.  Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
Hank Schrader shows off this pistol during the party in the first episode.  He uses it in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. Anyone else notice the Glock slide didnt blow back when he fired?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock during the first episode, &amp;quot;Pilot&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by rival drug dealer. Used by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by Jesse. Never got a chance to fire it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==HK G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
There are a G36k and an AK beneath it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==HK MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==AK-Type Assault Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is propped up against a pick-up truck.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
This is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying right behind the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==FN P90/PS90==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns. It is impossible to determine if it is a P90 or PS90, since only the back end is seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==HK UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Television]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Theszurk3</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Breaking Bad</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Theszurk3: /* Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945 */&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession.  Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The M4 Carbine is carried by Tuco when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage.  Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. It is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot;. Two are in the video, one lying on the ground and another propped up against a pickup truck with a telescopic sight and underslung grenade/flare launcher mounted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticably by the 'Cousins' in season three.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BreakingBadM1911.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Jericho 941==&lt;br /&gt;
Tuco uses this pistol as his sidearm.  Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Glock 22==&lt;br /&gt;
Hank Schrader shows off this pistol during the party in the first episode.  He uses it in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot; of season two. Anyone else notice the Glock slide didnt blow back when he fired?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 .40 S&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock during the first episode, &amp;quot;Pilot&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_11.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank's Glock runs dry during his shootout with, Tuco in the episode, &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_12.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hank promptly reloads and takes aim.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_13.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_14.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shootout commences once more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ruger SP101==&lt;br /&gt;
This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &amp;quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &amp;quot;borrows&amp;quot; Jesse's gun.  Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Jesse waits Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &amp;quot;Peekaboo&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson M945==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by rival drug dealer. Used by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Beretta M84 Cheetah==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by Jesse. Never got a chance to fire it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==HK G36C==&lt;br /&gt;
This rifle is seen in poster reading &amp;quot;KNOW YOUR WEAPON&amp;quot; in the DEA headquarters. It has a red-dot optic mounted on its accessory rail.&lt;br /&gt;
There are a G36k and an AK beneath it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E02_01.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The &amp;quot;Know Your Weapon&amp;quot; poster, in the episode &amp;quot;Grilled&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==HK MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==AK-Type Assault Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is propped up against a pick-up truck.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==IMI Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==IMI Mini-Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
This is also seen in the music video for &amp;quot;negro y Azul&amp;quot;. It is lying right behind the full-size Uzi.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==FN P90/PS90==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns. It is impossible to determine if it is a P90 or PS90, since only the back end is seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==HK UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
This is seen in the music video for &amp;quot;Negro y Azul&amp;quot; in the beginning of the third episode, second season. It is lying on the ground with some other machine guns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Television]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Theszurk3</name></author>
	</entry>
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