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Talk:Stargate SG-1

2010-10-13T17:28:27Z

ShootoutWithDave:

season 7 ep 1 there a solder with a Barrett M82A1 sniper rifle .50 BMG

It's harder to find the scenes with guns because some of these guns are only seen once or in a couple episodes. One needs to really pay attention. The guns only seen once are the hardest to find in the haystack of 10 seasons

This will be another great project because I know where to find pictures of Stargate SG1 and Atlantis, now which episode has a specfic gun will be the hard part.

The dressed up Dressed up Beretta M92F is one of the "Timecop" pistols, which were made from Taurus PT92s.

We've always wondered how much ammo does the guys have? We rarely see any of them reloading at all, and we get this were they were all forced to draw pistols. The only few times we see all of them holding pistols.

one of the bounty hunters used one of Hannibal King's "Camera/Disc" guns

==New gun pic==
If anyone was wondering about my change that I immediately 'undid' myself, I posted a pic and then deleted it because (stupid me) I put the wrong sight mount on the pistol and only realized it when I edited the page. I will repost the SG1 pistol shot when I get the correct sight mount. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

==Stinger & AT4 appearance==
I think Stinger missiles made another appearance in the last episode of Season 6 "Full Circle" when Teal'c and other kids on Abydos use them and AT4s to defend against Anubis' forces. One of the Stingers missed the glider, while Teal'c randomly fired another one and shot down another glider.

AT4 made the first appearance in Season 3 episode "Forever in a Day" when Carter picked up a AT4 from a fallen Marine and used it to destroy a staff cannon position, which is a correct application of AT4. It didn't show up again until Season 6 when people just start using it as an anti-aircraft weapons.

Interesting/Of Note: In the picture of the AT4 being fired, it is fired from the left shoulder. The AT4 is always fired from the right shoulder due to the flip up sights, safety levers, and trigger. I won't say it can't be fired from the left shoulder, I will say it would be awkward getting everything in a comfortable and functional location from what I remember. The directions on it even tell the user to use the right shoulder only.

I know it's been a while since this was posted, but the image in question looks like it's been flipped, since the sight covers are still on the top of the weapon, rather than underneath like you would expect them to be it it was being fired left handed. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:42, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== M249s ==

Can we get some evidence that the M249s are mockups rather than real ones? [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 15:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

:You missed our forum discussion here: http://www.imfdb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=323

:Anyway, the M249s in this show, ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', and many other movies and TV shows filmed in Canada are actually Korean K3 LMGs. The easiest way to tell is because they have a different style front and rear sight, but besides that, they look a lot like the SPW variant of the FN Minimi. One of our other admins, who is an armorer and gunsmith in the business, has confirmed that this was done because there was a time when armorers had a lot of difficulty acquiring real M249s. We're hoping to get pictures of the K3s (better ones than what we have now) soon so that we can illustrate the difference a bit more clearly. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==does anyone think==
Does anyone think we should add the energy weapons such as staff weapons and zat guns? I know they are not real firearms but they do play a large part in the show and they are cool.

:They might be cool, but they are not real weapons. I don't want to put the time to do such a thing. This is Internet Movie FIrearms Database, not alien and fantasy weapons database [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:49, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I know I was just thinking that they are a very importiant part of the show. Just look at how many times zat guns have saved them. haha

there are article on fictional guns...there should a Internet Movie weapon Database covering all weapons in movies. Rex095

:I guess it shouldn't be too bad, but if you are going to post crappy low res shots, forget it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:40, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

== Luger? ==

Can anyone ID the handgun used by Teal'c to threaten Netan in Season 9, Episode 20, Camelot? I know this a bit of a long shot because the weapon in question is only seen for a few seconds and from crappy angles. I think it might be a Luger P08. [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]]

:I think it is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

[[Image:SG1Luger.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

--[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 20:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)== not a M4 ==
this pick really dosent look like a M4 carbine in lookis more like a Diemaco C8 carbine --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 20:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC) [[Image:1SGM4A1.jpg]]

:Because it has an Elcan? Some of our Canadian armorer friends have told us that Diemaco/Colt Canada does not sell its weapons to film armorers, so it is pretty much impossible to see any C7 or C8 rifles in film/TV. We have mistakenly referred to some M16/CAR1-5 rifles as Diemaco weapons in the past, but this is a mistake that needs to be corrected. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

:There really isn't much distinct differences between the 2 carbines at a glance. You see so many ELCAN sights is because the show was made in Canada, [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

:: That is an M4, it has a stepped barrel. The C8 has an M16A1 style barrel without the M203 step. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 17:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
ok thanks for clearing that up --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 20:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

==The "Carter Special"==

The page says that this gun is a cut-down Armalite M15A4. However, that lower receiver is quite clearly Olympic Arms - you can tell by the white writing on the right side of the magazine well, plus I watched the episode, and it's possible to see the OA crest on the left side, too. I would guess that this gun is probably a modified K23B "stubby" with the front sight removed, a free-floating hand guard installed, and the thumbhole stock added. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

:Well I posted the image, but I don't remember calling it an Armalite. Let's change it to an OA. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::It's a K23B, not an OA93. But I will correct it myself... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

::: The Stargate Wiki has some additional infos on the parts used. http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Micro_16_assault_rifle --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

::::They're also wrong about the type of weapon that the Carter Special was based on, and I told them so in the discussion. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

:::::I've amended the base weapon on there. Is there anything else that needs correcting? [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

::::::Yes, that stock is not from an AR-180, it's a "Bell & Carlson AR-15 Thumbhole Stock". --[[User:ShootoutWithDave|ShootoutWithDave]] 16:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

::::::: On there, not here. I trust the info here more than there. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

==The M16A2s/C7s==

(moved from the page)

:''These are all Colt Model 715s, which are equivalent to the Diemaco C7, not M16A2s. If you look closely, you can see they all have the A1-style rear sight (adjustable for windage but NOT elevation, unlike the A2-style rear sight).''
::''I agree. That's what we get for filming a show in Canada.... :) ''

:::Al Vrkljan told me on the ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)]]'' page that Canadian armorers can't acquire Colt Canada rifles, either, because they only sell to military/LE. But those guns do look ''very'' C7-ish to me...

well tennachly they don`t have to own them ,lots of militarys have leanded weapons to tv and movie armourers. but in this case they are not. --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 23:55, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

::I can't imagine there's any military (outside of the poorest Third World countries) that would ever lend its weapons to film armorers. Motion picture blanks are very different from military blanks (they're loaded with far more powder, so they'll produce a bigger flash on camera), so you can't just loan an M16 to a film's property master, stick on a military BFA, and expect it to fire full-flash blanks. Plus there are legal issues involved, I'm sure.

::Anyway, the Canadian armory which supplies weapons to ''[[Stargate: SG1]]'' also supplies to lots of other movies and TV shows filmed in British Columbia. Since that conversation we had on the SG1 page, we have noticed that the "C7" rifles that this armory stocks are actually Olympic Arms K4Bs (which look identical to the C7, except that they have the distinctive "Stowaway" pistol grip). I can pretty much guarantee you that the "C7s" in ''[[Stargate: SG1]]'' are these same guns. In which case, they definitely didn't come from the Canadian armed forces. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== Missing Guns ==

Does someone want to check out season 1, episode 18, Tin Man? I saw an Uzi and what looked like a Dragunov sniper rifle. [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]]

: [[Image:SG1 - S6EP15PKM.jpg|thumb|500px|none|One of the Russian SG members returning from Nirrti´s hideout, carrying a [[PKM]].]]
: This one? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Well no, that's from season 6, episode 16. But good point, that also looks like a Dragunov. [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]]
: Are you sure it´s Tin Man? The only weapons visible in that episode are the standard MP5´s if I remember correctly . --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 08:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah sorry about that, SG1 has so many episodes that I got confused. I meant season 2, episode 4, Gamekeeper. I'm sure there was an Uzi and a Dragunov being used by the East Germans in O'Neill's flashback. There was also a rifle being used by O'Neill's team for counter-sniping that didn't recognize. [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]]
: Added the Dragunov. I couldn't spot the UZI, though. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 10:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

:: It's been bugging me for weeks, but I finnaly remembered where I had seen an UZI on SG1. Micro-UZIs were used twice in season 4. The Secret Sevice used them in episode 5, 'Divide and Conquer' and The NID agents in episode 15, 'Chain Reaction' had them along with some MP5Ks. [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]]
Come to think of it, I don't remember seeing a paddle release on any of the the 'MP5Ks' so SP89 then? [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]]

== Zastava discussion ==
[[Image:SGAK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
One scene, this Russian SG woman was using what appeared to be an AK47 variant (with a .223 magazine - could be a Type 84, or if the receiver has an RPK reinforcing bar, it could be the Zastava M90 chambered in 5.56mm NATO), but in the next scene, it appeared to be an AK-74.

:''The magazine appears to be Norinco Type 84-style, and there are lots of those in Hollywood's rental armories.''
::''Could be but since SG1 is filmed in Canada, none of the California armorers work on the show and Canadian armorers can still get a lot of stuff that we Americans can't (despite their ridiculous gun restrictions for the 'common folk').

:::Yeah, possibly. I admit the fact that the M70B appears in the show suggests it could be an M90. However, I seem to recall seeing at least one episode of this show where the AK74 I saw was definitely a Type 84 (hooded front sight, smooth receiver cover, plus less-curved mag).

:::: In this episode, the Russian officer asks about O'Neills P90, and then saying that he himself prefers the Serb/Yugoslav Zastava. They are most likely the M85, which is a pretty standard looking AK-74U copy. picture: http://i49.servimg.com/u/f49/11/39/24/32/m85_5_12.jpg

::::: I'm pretty sure he name-checks it as an M85 in that scene. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 09:16, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

::::::I'm not sure it's an M85. The M85 has an under-folding stock, while this weapon has a standard AKS-74-style side folding stock. It looks to me like a regular AKS-74U. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:23, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:::::::OK, I just watched this episode. The weapon is clearly not a Zastava M85. As best I can tell, it's a [[Norinco Type 84]] that's been modified with a Krinkov parts kit to look like an AKS-74U. It doesn't have the RPK-style heavy receiver of Zastavas, and it has a side-folding stock rather than under-folding (as on the M85). They may have called it a Zastava on the episode, but the prop weapon is something else (not uncommon in movies). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:19, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

:::::::: So there is no way to be certain about what specific model it is? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 19:46, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

::::::::::I'd put down that it's what I said - it's a Norinco Type 84 that's been mocked up as an AKS-74U. That's an acceptable identification, even if it's not exactly simple. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

== Cobray and lower handguard ==

[[Image:SG1.1.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Colonel Reynolds ([[Eric Breker]]) opens fire on the approaching Jaffa Gliders with his M4 in "Lost City, Part 1". Like others, this one has the lower handguard removed to accommodate the Cobray CM203.]]

This is what the caption first read. I edited the last sentence out because I am unsure WHY exactly they would remove the lower handguard. Is there any specific reason or was it done simply for the looks? --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Because it's usually done when mounting an underbarrel launcher to an M4? [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 09:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

: Thanks for answering the question, I will edit the last sentence back in. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 09:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== MP-7/P-90 Switcheroo ==
I always wondered why SG-1 switched from the MP-7 which they were using when Mitchell joined the team back to the P-90? Production costs? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:05, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

They only used the MP7 for a couple episodes and then went back to the P90 and we never see the MP7s again in the main cast. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:40, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's what I meant. It looked like they were changing weapons to the MP-7 and, if I recall, Mitchell even carried a G-36 for a while. I was wondering why they switched back to the P90 instead of keeping the HK line going. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 09:42, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

:How did it look like SG1 were changing weapons? They all used MP7s in exactly one episode! And that was when they were undercover posing as drug dealers. They probably thought the P90 was to recognizable. As for the G36, Mitchell (and Carter once) uses it regularly in missions that require more firepower than usual. [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]]

:: The change to using 5.56s more than P90s was, at least in season 8, more for cost reasons (5.7mm blanks were getting expensive as the company that made them had to start filling military orders for live rounds) After that, I don't know. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 07:10, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

::: It was my understanding that the 5.7mm shortage was only temporary, which is why the 'Carter special' from season 7 wasn't reused in the following seasons. Also I remember someone saying in an audio commentary that the main reason they kept using the G36 because they thought it looked cool! [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]]

::Don't quote me on this, but a while back I read that it was partly due to the fact they used Tokyo Marui products as non-firing props. And when TM developed their MP7, they provided them to the show in order to create awareness and take advantage of the airsoft playing viewers and/or cos-players. It makes sense to me, but I think only the armourer would be able to provide the right answer. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 08:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::: In my opinion, appearing in one episode and briefly in another isn't really enough exposure to justify that. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 10:22, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Real M16A1 and M249 ==

[[Image:SG1 - S2EP15M16.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[Image:SG1 - S2EP15M249.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
As seen in "A Matter of Time", wielded by - what I presume to be - real members of the US military. I am looking for confirmation on these. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 09:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

:How do we know they're actual enlisted U.S. military personnel? If the guy in the top image is an actual serviceman, one would expect him to know instinctively not to grip his M16 so close to the barrel and front sight (which get hot when fired).

:The gun IDs appear correct, although I'm trying to figure out why we've seen mostly K3s on the show if the armorers had access to Minimis/M249s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

:: The footage was taken at the actual entrance to Cheyenne mountain and with the great display of cooperation on the part of the US Armed forces I´d say that those men being real soldiers is a fair guess. And I know nothing about weapons, but I personally would pick my own way of holding the weapon to reach, what one might call, maximum efficiency. I will add them to the page now. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 12:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

::: They are real forces personnel I believe, along with the majority of the soldiers seen in exterior shots of the SGC: it was mentioned once on a DVD commentary that they were real soldiers.--[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 13:43, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

::::I have heard it mentioned that the '''establishing shots''' of Cheyenne Mountain's entrance in this show were filmed on-location, but that's JUST establishing shots. The rest of the show, including the action scenes, is filmed in British Columbia. So, I would still be really surprised if those guys are U.S. military personnel, or if that particular scene was filmed on-location. Remember that a good editor can mix footage filmed in two different locations and make it look like the entire scene takes place only in one location.

::::''And I know nothing about weapons, but I personally would pick my own way of holding the weapon to reach, what one might call, maximum efficiency.''

::::Since you don't know anything about weapons, please take my word for it: That would not be "maximum efficiency" for ANYONE who wants to keep the skin on their hand intact. All AR rifles get '''hot''' around the barrel and front sight post when fired. If you hold an AR the way this guy is doing, you WILL get burned when you shoot (especially on an M16A1, which doesn't have the heavier barrel of later models). Even the most boot Private in the reserves knows this. So if that guy were actually in the Air Force, he would know to grip his M16 properly through muscle memory alone. Thus, I think it is safe to conclude that this guy is an untrained actor who had never held an M16 before working on this show. There's just no way that an enlisted soldier, Marine, or airman would do something that's so obviously wrong. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:45, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Especially the Marines. They spend more time training with the rifle than any other branch. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

::::On the topic of the M16 holding, maybe thats how the production team told him to hold it so it looked cool, we don't know. However, in that episode, the sequence of the soldiers jumping out of jeeps and trucks is definitely on location, as it is in front of the main entrance. Furthermore, one of the soldiers/airmen/whatevers jumping out of a truck seems to be wearing a set of Ranger Body Armour, which has never been shown in another shot as of the show as far as I know, which leads me to believe that there was at least some participation by serving soldiers. [[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 19:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

:::::''maybe thats how the production team told him to hold it so it looked cool, we don't know. ''

:::::Do you really think directors are ''that'' anal? Or that they have that kind of time on their hands? The simplest explanation is that this guy simply didn't have experience with an M16 in real life, and the armorer didn't have time to show him the proper way to hold it. So ''he'' just held it the way he thought seemed cool. You're over-thinking this.

:::::Even if the soldiers leaving their vehicles was filmed on location, that one shot (of this guy holding his M16) could have still been filmed elsewhere. We don't see Cheyenne Mountain in the background, after all, and they do reshoots all the time after principal photography. Also, what is "Ranger Body Armour"? Never heard of any such thing. U.S. military personnel wore the PASGT (vest and helmet) at the time this episode was filmed. PASGT has since been replaced by the Interceptor OTV/IOTV (in the Army) and the Modular Tactical Vest (in the Marines). And all of these vests (or replicas) can be purchased by civilians, so their appearance in the show means nothing. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:42, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

:::::IIRC, Ranger Body Armor was a set of armor with kevlar/ceramic ballistic plates that was developed for and mainly used by the 75th Ranger regiment (hence the name) from the early 1990s until the early 2000s. It was the vest that Rangers wore in Somalia and is seen pretty prominently in [[Black Hawk Down]].--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:53, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

::::::I see. In that case, Commando552 seems to be suggesting that the producers brought in some actual Army Rangers...just to show them gathering at the complex entrance to point weapons at it? At the very least, if they were real personnel, they'd be USAF perimeter security, not Army Rangers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:59, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

:::::::I was not suggesting they brought in Army Rangers for the filming of this one scene. I imagine that it is possible that the RBA ended up being used by people other than Rangers, so they may indeed be USAF personnel. As this footage is shot on location at the entrance, it would not have been a case of bringing in personnel, but just using the ones that were already there. I can't remember where I heard it, but have definitely heard in an interview or audio commentary that this footage was stock footage shot not specifically for this episode, but was done when they had the opportunity as it would be needed eventually. Here is a screencap:

:::::::[[Image:13yfqra.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

:::::::Also it is worth noting that the other security forces are wearing a leather police type belt, rather than the ALICE webbing they wear in other appearances. It seems possible to me that they are either real security forces, or the production team was given equipment by the USAF to shoot this, as they were on location at Cheyenne. Either way this would explain the different equipment, and the use of real M16s and M249s [[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 09:08, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

== Fake G3SG/1? ==

Not certain, but I believe the sniper rifle used by Oneill in Orpheus isn't an SG/1. The reason I say this is that it has a bolt on bipod rather than the integrated one in the hand-guard, it lacks full auto, it used a different after market cheek riser rather than the one supplied with the SG/1, and (although it is hard to tell from the photos) it seems to lack the secondary setting trigger behind the main one. As an aside, did all SG/1s have this secondary trigger or was it removed at some point, as the photo on the SG/1 page is also lacking it.
::MT2008 pointed out (I think) that most SG1s/SR9s in American (Canada too?) armories are modified G3/HK91s. The original sniper versions are rare and really expensive and HK think we suck and hate us. So it is better to 'chop up' and modify the much cheaper HK91 and make a similar looking rifle. Even so called G3s are HK91s with the G3 trigger pack installed, so nothing is what it seems in movies and television. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Exactly. This is an HK91 mocked up to look like a G3 SG/1. Just as the "M249s" are all mocked-up Daewoo K3s, the "Berettas" in the early episodes were all Taurus PT92s, and the "M203s" are all harmless 37mm Cobray flare launchers. That's Hollywood for you. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

::::Thanks for that, assumed it was a HK91, but didn't know how to tell them apart specifically. Should the entry be changed to reflect this or should ti be left as is (I'm new here not sure what the procedure is for mock ups like this)? Also do you happen to know if there was a version of the SG/1 made without the setting trigger, as if not I think the photo on the SG/1 page is of a converted G3. [[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 19:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

:::::Yes, the page should point out the fact that the G3/SG1 is a mock-up from an HK91. And yes, our own picture (which is itself a real movie gun) also shows a mock-up built from an HK91. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

== Why the ELCAN? ==

One thing has struck me looking through this article is the use of the ELCAN. Why specifically would SGC have chosen the ELCAN over ACOG for their battlefield optic?

Talk:Stargate SG-1

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==Lol Wut?==
Relocated this from the main page. It made even less sense before I cleaned up the spelling and grammar errors: "I know that in the new Burn Notice episode "Question & Answer," a thug uses a Colt Diamondback but I don't know how to add it. Will someone do it for me? It is "Double Down" look it up." Whatever, dood. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 04:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Formatting==
This page's formatting was really atrocious, so I did quite a bit of editing. I really don't want to see that happen again, y'all.

Anyway, I have the Pilot episode of this show on my laptop now, so I will screencap it in the near future, and maybe buy some more episodes on iTunes for the other guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yea...I'm doing some work too and your kinda screwing up my practice here. No hard feelings, but i got it and you take it from here. (The Winchester)

:Oh, OK. Well, this page's formatting has actually been pretty bad for a while now. Anyway, for practice, I would recommend hitting the "Edit" button on other people's pages to study how formatting was done. I'm also in the habit of recycling my own code when it comes to inserting gun entries on a page (i.e. if I see a movie with an MP5A3, the first thing I do is go to a movie page I know has MP5A3s in correct format, cut and paste all of the text for the gun entry, paste it in my page, and edit the text as necessary to conform to my new page).

::yea, i've been doing that, but i think i'm starting to get better at it. Thanks for the advice though. -Winchester

::Hey what was the revolver used by the security guy to kill Chandler in the latest episode? It looks like a Smith and Wesson Model 29 but I'm not sure. MW

:Well, i have the 1st season on dvd and i could do it in the future. i have a few movies that im still committed to, so it might be a while. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

A molotov cocktail isn't a firearm, so I've removed it. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 08:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I just finished watching the premier episode of Season 3 on USA and noted usage of an M4A1 and an M203 on the page. The 203 definitely wasn't a Cobray, but since it wasn't actually used, I figure it could most likely have been an airsoft version. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

WOWWWEEEE. I just did a ton of work on this. I made a bunch of errors because it took me like four hours, but I think I fixed them all. I apologize for the relatively low quality of my screen caps, but they are DVR downloads from TV, and not very high quality TV. Does anybody have the HD version? Or the DVD? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:One more thing, there is a sniper rifle used by Fiona in one episode, that I can not put my finger on. Here is the image.
[[Image:BNfionaRifle.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Fiona shoots some dudes with some rifle.]]
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Looks to me like a Browning Automatic Rifle, that civilian one that's not actually the B.A.R.-protoAuthor

:I do in fact have HD versions of many episodes on my back-up external drive and have meaning to upload for a while, but right now, I'm juggling a whole bunch of different things (including IMFDB pages). At some point, I plan to do a huge re-vamp on this page (it was supposed to be BEFORE Season 3 started, but obviously, that didn't pan out for me). If you want a preview, take a look at some of the shots I've been meaning to upload but haven't gotten around to yet:

:[[Image:Vlcsnap-153758.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
:[[Image:Vlcsnap-409605.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

:Also, a few other things: Please mention the episode beneath the screenshot, and name the characters/actors who use guns if you can. I use IMDB to make sure I have my info correct. For instance, the hijacker in Episode 2.07 (the guy with the nickel Jericho) is named Gerard and is played by [[Max Martini]] (same dude who's on "The Unit"). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

he played MSG. Mack Gerhardt in the Unit. he was also in season 2 or 3 of 24 (if sum1 has any screenshots, i believe he had a MP5.

:To whoever did the Steyr Scout, how'd you identify it as such, and the BAR maybe we should rephrase it to somethign like "not to be confused the the m1918 Browning Automatic Rifle" instead of calling it a civie version since they are two different firearms.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:I'm beginning to think that the Steyr scout, isn't. The Barrel is not fluted and maybe a little thick, the bolt handle is different, and im doubting the reciever, and the stock is not a Steyr's. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::I looked at it again, you're right. I mostly guessed on that anyway. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 06:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Whoever put the gun that Michael used in the pilot episode to get rid of the drug dealer as a Jericho/Baby Eagle needs to get their eyes checked. That's definetly not a Jericho. I want to say it's a smith and wesson but don't know which model. Here's the image I got

[[Image:Gun pilot.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

It is either a S&W 4006 or S&W 5906 because it exhibits the double stack bulge. I'm leaning towards the 5906 because of the hooked trigger guard.[[Special:Contributions/96.32.185.136|96.32.185.136]] 22:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm removing the ones that are under the Jericho section that are wrong. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 00:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

== Fiona's assault rifle ==

I was looking for the model of Fiona's souped up assault rifle, that she stole from the gun-smuggler (after Michael poured gunpowder all over his face).

It can also be seen in Season 2 Ep 14 @ 40:00 - it kind of looks like an SG-500, but I don't think it is. Anyone got any ideas?

== Sam's Rifle ==
In the season 3 finale, Sam uses an assault rifle with a scope to get the kidnappers onto a boat and help free Fiona. Since Bruce Campbell is left handed, he covers up most of the rifle when he's shown firing. It looks like an AR derivative, either an M16A4 or SPR. I don't think it's an SR-25. They took the episode down from Hulu so I can't get a screenshot of it.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 07:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

==Mark 23==
thanks for the compliment to whoever took the screencaps I posted on HKpro.com forums for the Mk23 sub heading. Cheers!

==sig 226==

i am pretty sure the black sig in the first picture being held by the michael character is a 228, the barrel looks short and in a later episode he mentions the 228, it seems to be his prefered weapon, and i'm not sure but i think the third one is as well,

==Errors==
2 Errors of note: The Steyr is a Remington 700. The stock isn't even close, the barrel doesn't have the twist and the scout rail isn't present. It's not a ProHunter either.

The Winchester 1300's aren't either. Note the lack of v-shaped reciever. They're Remington 870 Marine Magnum's.

I don't think they're even real. They look more like airsoft. The barrels don't seem to be connected to the magazine tube, there doesn't seem to be a safety or a pump release in the places you'd find them on a 1300 or 870. also we cannot see the ejection port which helps matters a great deal. I'm going to watch the episode again when i get home and look again. I also don't remembering them actually firing but there being an effect in its place.[I would ad my signature but I haven't been able to access my account as of late, Mercer]

==Accuracy International==

During the episode "Double Booked" Michael apparently assembles an "AI AWC" but it has a standard Remington 700 bolt handle (flat and knurled), I think it appears to be a Remington 700 with AICS which does have a folding option, anyone prove me wrong? Update: I changed the name to reflect what this is.

== Desert Eagle ==

Added Desert Eagle to handgun list. Season 3 Episode 4 "Fearless Leader". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 17:44, 13 January 2010
(UTC)

== Beretta Tomcat==

In Season 3 Episode 8 "Friends Like These". Fiona uses a Beretta Tomcat on Natalie. Can anyone get a screenshot of this.
==Sig not Glock==
[[Image:BNglock19black.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mike shoots at the hood of a car with another commandeered Glock 19.]]
- This is not a Glock, look at the grip above Michael's hand. It's a Sig, though it looks too big for his 228. Maybe a 226?

==HK USP compact 45==
I deleted the bit about Fiona's walther ppk because it said that it was the gun Michael used to shoot Strickler. That is wrong Mike uses Fiona's HK USP compact and that is what she leaves at his house.

on the topic of HK USPs what kind is Seymour (arms dealer) seen using when he pulls it on Mike. the barrel looks to small to be a .45 but it appeared to be under HK USP .45

==Fiona's M1==
At the end of the episode when Sam is seen disposing of the weapons it is not a stretch to assume he kept some of them for their use, explaining where Fiona got the rifle.
''The M-1A is a Springfield Armory weapon designed for civilian use, because of this the rifle is much more likely to be the M-1A since it is a Civvie version. It is NOT an EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle)the barrel is too long to be the EBR, which was designed for DMR as well as CQB. It is more likely the EMR (Enhanced Marksman Rifle) which has a longer barrel.''
 

:''The "Family Business" M-1A appears to be a SOPMOD conversion (note the slightly different stock and a lack of a front iron sight) instead of the EMR/EBR Fiona uses in "Turn and Burn."

==Fiona's rifle==
What is the rifle Fiona uses to shoot Carla with?

I think it's the BAR she used earlier in the series.
[[Image:BurnS2 2063.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Doesn't BAR stand for : Browning AUTOMATIC Rifle? The rifle in the image clearly has a bolt handle. Rob the Fiend
it's a different BAR. Not the ww2 rifle

I know it's not the WW2 rifle, read this: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=002B&catalog_=B

::You are right. Definitely NOT the BAR Safari, being that rifle is a semiautomatic and she does have a bolt action visible in the pic. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:05, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

==S3Ep13==
This is probably the best yet! Man Burn Notice is awesome. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== AWM Season 3 Episode 11 ==

Toward the end Fiona pulls out what I believe is an Arctic Warfare Magnum.

== Great show ==
I love this show. And Fiona is my ultimate dream girl. A knockout who you can take to the gunstore and range! But I wouldn't be able to use the old excuse of buying her a particular firearm knowing that she would never use it and I would. Not only would she use it she's probably break your arm if you tried to take it! What a woman.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:Heh, right on. "Honey! I got you a S&W in .44! The recoil might be a bit much for you though, I'll just use it inste-*CRACK* AUUUUGHHGGGG!" --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== CZ 75BD ==

In season 3 episode 6 "the hunter" Michael and his new friend John Beck use a CZ 75BD pistol.
[[Image:Bn1.jpg|thumb|none|400px]] [[Image:Bn2.jpg|thumb|none|400px]] [[Image:Bn3.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

==BNS4==
Damn I love this show. Season 4 started out with a BANG!!!!! [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

==Khan's Gun==

what was kahn using in s4e2? im thinking fn fnp

[[ Image:Screencap.jpg|thumb|none|400px ]]

That would be a Walther p99AS in what could be a 9mm or a 40S&W. [[Spades of Columbia]]

: Nope. [[Smith & Wesson SW99]], with a titanium or hard-chromed slide. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 18:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

you are absolutely correct on that Sir, tip of the hat to ya, good eye on the front slide surrations. [[Spades of Columbia]]

==What are these==

these guns look really dressed up

[[ Image:Bns4.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

Heckler and Koch SL8 with suppressors

-Double Agent M

Whats with the bent up areas under the scopes

- Just a somewhat unconventional frame design.

[[Image:HK-SL8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch SL8 target match with 10 round magazine - 5.56x45mm.]]

[[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

So...what was the Gun that Josh pulled on the crooked invester in the most recent episode? It was Sam's buddy that Michael dissarmed at one point.[[Spades of Columbia]]

Screenies [[Image:IMFDB1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Resized the screenies..]]

[[Image:IMFDB2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

I'm thinking a shiny Sig sauer p22xr?

looks like a non gun

Wow, fricking huge screens. It is neither a SIG or a non gun, but a Taurus PT940. Probably the same one used in the other bank episode.

Sorry for the huge screenies. From what i can see on taurus website they dont make the pt940 stainless with rail. Sure it could be aftermarket or the black could have been removed. But still the pt940 with rail has 2 notches in the rail and from what i can tell this gun dosnt. I am no taurus fan neither a taurus knower on the other hand.

It could be the 9mm version of the PT940. I think it is called the model 911 maybe? I know that the Taurus 9mm version comes with rails. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 12:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

:It's a PT911 or 940 (more likely the 911). And yes, Taurus does make those pistols with rails now. Their web site may not be updated, but I just saw a PT940 with a rail frame for sale at a gun show last weekend. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:03, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== Original CZ 75... ==

In Season 3 Episode 14, the Polish agent at the lighthouse pulls what I believe is an original CZ 75 (pre B). I don't know how to upload screen caps, but if someone else wants to confirm this, it's at 4:41 in the episode. - [[User:WATYF|WATYF]]

I'm sure it's a pre B, rounded trigger guard is a dead giveaway.

[[Image:Burn Notice S03 E14 CZ 75 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

--[[User:Noe|Noe]] 12:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==S04E06==

Does anyone know what concealed carry pistol Buddy is carrying at roughly 8 min? I can't take screenies on this computer, they just turn out all black :<.

==S04E09==
Cohen or what the dudes name was, was holding a H&K P30 on Michael

== Breaking Up By Season? ==

The show has been renewed for 2 more seasons, so it may be time to break up this page by season. The only thing is that many of the same guns are used in every season. Thoughts? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I personally dont see the point of breaking it up into seasons. Most entries are marked with season and episode so if your wondering about a specific one most web browsers have a built in search function. On Opera and Firefox to open the search box just use Ctrl+F. Noe

== ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? ==
After Michael and Fiona get out of Seymours mansion after Seymour attacks them is the "laser targeting assist" she has on her rifle an ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? --[[User:ShootoutWithDave|ShootoutWithDave]] 15:21, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

No one got an answer? --[[User:ShootoutWithDave|ShootoutWithDave]] 17:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

==Remington 870==

[[Image:BNshotgunCase.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

[[Image:Burn 266.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[Image:Burn 267.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

wrong....I don't know what it is. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 14:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

How is that not a Remington 870? --[[User:ShootoutWithDave|ShootoutWithDave]] 15:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

A few things have always bugged me about those guns. First, the barrel doesn't seem to connect to the magazine tube the right way. Second the safety and slide release seem to be missing. Third there is no clear view of the right side of the weapon so we cannot see the ejection port. And lastly, we never see them actually fire, the "water shell" is a practical effect, not a blank round. I would bet money they're airsoft. [[User:Mercer|Mercer]] 16:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Shotgun US Remington 870 'Tac Star' 12 gauge slide action shotgun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Remington 870 with pistol grip and vertical foregrip - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:BNshotgunCase.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Seymour proudly opens his case of customized shotguns.]]
Something is off about them. The trigger guard doesn't look right either, the inside of them is too squared. Often times S&W 3000 shotguns are misidentified as 870s. But they aren't 3000s either. As [[User:Mercer|Mercer]] said probably airsoft.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

:- I could be wrong, but I've a pretty strong feeling that those are actually Ithaca 37s, or at least, fakes based off the Ithaca 37, anyway. The trigger guard looks awful close and if they're Ithacas/Ithaca-based, it would also explain the lack of side ejectors. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Burn Notice

2010-08-15T15:22:34Z

ShootoutWithDave: /* Remington 870 */

==Lol Wut?==
Relocated this from the main page. It made even less sense before I cleaned up the spelling and grammar errors: "I know that in the new Burn Notice episode "Question & Answer," a thug uses a Colt Diamondback but I don't know how to add it. Will someone do it for me? It is "Double Down" look it up." Whatever, dood. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 04:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Formatting==
This page's formatting was really atrocious, so I did quite a bit of editing. I really don't want to see that happen again, y'all.

Anyway, I have the Pilot episode of this show on my laptop now, so I will screencap it in the near future, and maybe buy some more episodes on iTunes for the other guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yea...I'm doing some work too and your kinda screwing up my practice here. No hard feelings, but i got it and you take it from here. (The Winchester)

:Oh, OK. Well, this page's formatting has actually been pretty bad for a while now. Anyway, for practice, I would recommend hitting the "Edit" button on other people's pages to study how formatting was done. I'm also in the habit of recycling my own code when it comes to inserting gun entries on a page (i.e. if I see a movie with an MP5A3, the first thing I do is go to a movie page I know has MP5A3s in correct format, cut and paste all of the text for the gun entry, paste it in my page, and edit the text as necessary to conform to my new page).

::yea, i've been doing that, but i think i'm starting to get better at it. Thanks for the advice though. -Winchester

::Hey what was the revolver used by the security guy to kill Chandler in the latest episode? It looks like a Smith and Wesson Model 29 but I'm not sure. MW

:Well, i have the 1st season on dvd and i could do it in the future. i have a few movies that im still committed to, so it might be a while. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

A molotov cocktail isn't a firearm, so I've removed it. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 08:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I just finished watching the premier episode of Season 3 on USA and noted usage of an M4A1 and an M203 on the page. The 203 definitely wasn't a Cobray, but since it wasn't actually used, I figure it could most likely have been an airsoft version. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

WOWWWEEEE. I just did a ton of work on this. I made a bunch of errors because it took me like four hours, but I think I fixed them all. I apologize for the relatively low quality of my screen caps, but they are DVR downloads from TV, and not very high quality TV. Does anybody have the HD version? Or the DVD? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:One more thing, there is a sniper rifle used by Fiona in one episode, that I can not put my finger on. Here is the image.
[[Image:BNfionaRifle.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Fiona shoots some dudes with some rifle.]]
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Looks to me like a Browning Automatic Rifle, that civilian one that's not actually the B.A.R.-protoAuthor

:I do in fact have HD versions of many episodes on my back-up external drive and have meaning to upload for a while, but right now, I'm juggling a whole bunch of different things (including IMFDB pages). At some point, I plan to do a huge re-vamp on this page (it was supposed to be BEFORE Season 3 started, but obviously, that didn't pan out for me). If you want a preview, take a look at some of the shots I've been meaning to upload but haven't gotten around to yet:

:[[Image:Vlcsnap-153758.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
:[[Image:Vlcsnap-409605.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

:Also, a few other things: Please mention the episode beneath the screenshot, and name the characters/actors who use guns if you can. I use IMDB to make sure I have my info correct. For instance, the hijacker in Episode 2.07 (the guy with the nickel Jericho) is named Gerard and is played by [[Max Martini]] (same dude who's on "The Unit"). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

he played MSG. Mack Gerhardt in the Unit. he was also in season 2 or 3 of 24 (if sum1 has any screenshots, i believe he had a MP5.

:To whoever did the Steyr Scout, how'd you identify it as such, and the BAR maybe we should rephrase it to somethign like "not to be confused the the m1918 Browning Automatic Rifle" instead of calling it a civie version since they are two different firearms.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:I'm beginning to think that the Steyr scout, isn't. The Barrel is not fluted and maybe a little thick, the bolt handle is different, and im doubting the reciever, and the stock is not a Steyr's. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::I looked at it again, you're right. I mostly guessed on that anyway. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 06:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Whoever put the gun that Michael used in the pilot episode to get rid of the drug dealer as a Jericho/Baby Eagle needs to get their eyes checked. That's definetly not a Jericho. I want to say it's a smith and wesson but don't know which model. Here's the image I got

[[Image:Gun pilot.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

It is either a S&W 4006 or S&W 5906 because it exhibits the double stack bulge. I'm leaning towards the 5906 because of the hooked trigger guard.[[Special:Contributions/96.32.185.136|96.32.185.136]] 22:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm removing the ones that are under the Jericho section that are wrong. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 00:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

== Fiona's assault rifle ==

I was looking for the model of Fiona's souped up assault rifle, that she stole from the gun-smuggler (after Michael poured gunpowder all over his face).

It can also be seen in Season 2 Ep 14 @ 40:00 - it kind of looks like an SG-500, but I don't think it is. Anyone got any ideas?

== Sam's Rifle ==
In the season 3 finale, Sam uses an assault rifle with a scope to get the kidnappers onto a boat and help free Fiona. Since Bruce Campbell is left handed, he covers up most of the rifle when he's shown firing. It looks like an AR derivative, either an M16A4 or SPR. I don't think it's an SR-25. They took the episode down from Hulu so I can't get a screenshot of it.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 07:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

==Mark 23==
thanks for the compliment to whoever took the screencaps I posted on HKpro.com forums for the Mk23 sub heading. Cheers!

==sig 226==

i am pretty sure the black sig in the first picture being held by the michael character is a 228, the barrel looks short and in a later episode he mentions the 228, it seems to be his prefered weapon, and i'm not sure but i think the third one is as well,

==Errors==
2 Errors of note: The Steyr is a Remington 700. The stock isn't even close, the barrel doesn't have the twist and the scout rail isn't present. It's not a ProHunter either.

The Winchester 1300's aren't either. Note the lack of v-shaped reciever. They're Remington 870 Marine Magnum's.

I don't think they're even real. They look more like airsoft. The barrels don't seem to be connected to the magazine tube, there doesn't seem to be a safety or a pump release in the places you'd find them on a 1300 or 870. also we cannot see the ejection port which helps matters a great deal. I'm going to watch the episode again when i get home and look again. I also don't remembering them actually firing but there being an effect in its place.[I would ad my signature but I haven't been able to access my account as of late, Mercer]

==Accuracy International==

During the episode "Double Booked" Michael apparently assembles an "AI AWC" but it has a standard Remington 700 bolt handle (flat and knurled), I think it appears to be a Remington 700 with AICS which does have a folding option, anyone prove me wrong? Update: I changed the name to reflect what this is.

== Desert Eagle ==

Added Desert Eagle to handgun list. Season 3 Episode 4 "Fearless Leader". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 17:44, 13 January 2010
(UTC)

== Beretta Tomcat==

In Season 3 Episode 8 "Friends Like These". Fiona uses a Beretta Tomcat on Natalie. Can anyone get a screenshot of this.
==Sig not Glock==
[[Image:BNglock19black.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mike shoots at the hood of a car with another commandeered Glock 19.]]
- This is not a Glock, look at the grip above Michael's hand. It's a Sig, though it looks too big for his 228. Maybe a 226?

==HK USP compact 45==
I deleted the bit about Fiona's walther ppk because it said that it was the gun Michael used to shoot Strickler. That is wrong Mike uses Fiona's HK USP compact and that is what she leaves at his house.

on the topic of HK USPs what kind is Seymour (arms dealer) seen using when he pulls it on Mike. the barrel looks to small to be a .45 but it appeared to be under HK USP .45

==Fiona's M1==
At the end of the episode when Sam is seen disposing of the weapons it is not a stretch to assume he kept some of them for their use, explaining where Fiona got the rifle.
''The M-1A is a Springfield Armory weapon designed for civilian use, because of this the rifle is much more likely to be the M-1A since it is a Civvie version. It is NOT an EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle)the barrel is too long to be the EBR, which was designed for DMR as well as CQB. It is more likely the EMR (Enhanced Marksman Rifle) which has a longer barrel.''
 

:''The "Family Business" M-1A appears to be a SOPMOD conversion (note the slightly different stock and a lack of a front iron sight) instead of the EMR/EBR Fiona uses in "Turn and Burn."

==Fiona's rifle==
What is the rifle Fiona uses to shoot Carla with?

I think it's the BAR she used earlier in the series.
[[Image:BurnS2 2063.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Doesn't BAR stand for : Browning AUTOMATIC Rifle? The rifle in the image clearly has a bolt handle. Rob the Fiend
it's a different BAR. Not the ww2 rifle

I know it's not the WW2 rifle, read this: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=002B&catalog_=B

::You are right. Definitely NOT the BAR Safari, being that rifle is a semiautomatic and she does have a bolt action visible in the pic. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:05, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

==S3Ep13==
This is probably the best yet! Man Burn Notice is awesome. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== AWM Season 3 Episode 11 ==

Toward the end Fiona pulls out what I believe is an Arctic Warfare Magnum.

== Great show ==
I love this show. And Fiona is my ultimate dream girl. A knockout who you can take to the gunstore and range! But I wouldn't be able to use the old excuse of buying her a particular firearm knowing that she would never use it and I would. Not only would she use it she's probably break your arm if you tried to take it! What a woman.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:Heh, right on. "Honey! I got you a S&W in .44! The recoil might be a bit much for you though, I'll just use it inste-*CRACK* AUUUUGHHGGGG!" --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== CZ 75BD ==

In season 3 episode 6 "the hunter" Michael and his new friend John Beck use a CZ 75BD pistol.
[[Image:Bn1.jpg]] [[Image:Bn2.jpg]] [[Image:Bn3.jpg]]

==BNS4==
Damn I love this show. Season 4 started out with a BANG!!!!! [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

==Khan's Gun==

what was kahn using in s4e2? im thinking fn fnp

[[ Image:Screencap.jpg ]]

That would be a Walther p99AS in what could be a 9mm or a 40S&W. [[Spades of Columbia]]

: Nope. [[Smith & Wesson SW99]], with a titanium or hard-chromed slide. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 18:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

you are absolutely correct on that Sir, tip of the hat to ya, good eye on the front slide surrations. [[Spades of Columbia]]

==What are these==

these guns look really dressed up

[[ Image:Bns4.jpg ]]

Heckler and Koch SL8 with suppressors

-Double Agent M

Whats with the bent up areas under the scopes

- Just a somewhat unconventional frame design.

[[Image:HK-SL8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch SL8 target match with 10 round magazine - 5.56x45mm.]]

[[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

So...what was the Gun that Josh pulled on the crooked invester in the most recent episode? It was Sam's buddy that Michael dissarmed at one point.[[Spades of Columbia]]

Screenies [[Image:IMFDB1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Resized the screenies..]]

[[Image:IMFDB2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

I'm thinking a shiny Sig sauer p22xr?

looks like a non gun

Wow, fricking huge screens. It is neither a SIG or a non gun, but a Taurus PT940. Probably the same one used in the other bank episode.

Sorry for the huge screenies. From what i can see on taurus website they dont make the pt940 stainless with rail. Sure it could be aftermarket or the black could have been removed. But still the pt940 with rail has 2 notches in the rail and from what i can tell this gun dosnt. I am no taurus fan neither a taurus knower on the other hand.

It could be the 9mm version of the PT940. I think it is called the model 911 maybe? I know that the Taurus 9mm version comes with rails. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 12:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Original CZ 75... ==

In Season 3 Episode 14, the Polish agent at the lighthouse pulls what I believe is an original CZ 75 (pre B). I don't know how to upload screen caps, but if someone else wants to confirm this, it's at 4:41 in the episode. - [[User:WATYF|WATYF]]

I'm sure it's a pre B, rounded trigger guard is a dead giveaway.

[[Image:Burn Notice S03 E14 CZ 75 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

--[[User:Noe|Noe]] 12:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==S04E06==

Does anyone know what concealed carry pistol Buddy is carrying at roughly 8 min? I can't take screenies on this computer, they just turn out all black :<.

==S04E09==
Cohen or what the dudes name was, was holding a H&K P30 on Michael

== Breaking Up By Season? ==

The show has been renewed for 2 more seasons, so it may be time to break up this page by season. The only thing is that many of the same guns are used in every season. Thoughts? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I personally dont see the point of breaking it up into seasons. Most entries are marked with season and episode so if your wondering about a specific one most web browsers have a built in search function. On Opera and Firefox to open the search box just use Ctrl+F. Noe

== ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? ==

After Michael and Fiona get out of Seymours mansion after Seymour attacks them is the "laser targeting assist" she has on her rifle an ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? --[[User:ShootoutWithDave|ShootoutWithDave]] 15:21, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

==Remington 870==

[[Burn_Notice#Remington_870_Pistol_Grip]]

wrong....I don't know what it is. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 14:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

How is that not a Remington 870? --[[User:ShootoutWithDave|ShootoutWithDave]] 15:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Burn Notice

2010-08-15T15:21:50Z

ShootoutWithDave: /* ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? */

==Lol Wut?==
Relocated this from the main page. It made even less sense before I cleaned up the spelling and grammar errors: "I know that in the new Burn Notice episode "Question & Answer," a thug uses a Colt Diamondback but I don't know how to add it. Will someone do it for me? It is "Double Down" look it up." Whatever, dood. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 04:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Formatting==
This page's formatting was really atrocious, so I did quite a bit of editing. I really don't want to see that happen again, y'all.

Anyway, I have the Pilot episode of this show on my laptop now, so I will screencap it in the near future, and maybe buy some more episodes on iTunes for the other guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yea...I'm doing some work too and your kinda screwing up my practice here. No hard feelings, but i got it and you take it from here. (The Winchester)

:Oh, OK. Well, this page's formatting has actually been pretty bad for a while now. Anyway, for practice, I would recommend hitting the "Edit" button on other people's pages to study how formatting was done. I'm also in the habit of recycling my own code when it comes to inserting gun entries on a page (i.e. if I see a movie with an MP5A3, the first thing I do is go to a movie page I know has MP5A3s in correct format, cut and paste all of the text for the gun entry, paste it in my page, and edit the text as necessary to conform to my new page).

::yea, i've been doing that, but i think i'm starting to get better at it. Thanks for the advice though. -Winchester

::Hey what was the revolver used by the security guy to kill Chandler in the latest episode? It looks like a Smith and Wesson Model 29 but I'm not sure. MW

:Well, i have the 1st season on dvd and i could do it in the future. i have a few movies that im still committed to, so it might be a while. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

A molotov cocktail isn't a firearm, so I've removed it. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 08:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I just finished watching the premier episode of Season 3 on USA and noted usage of an M4A1 and an M203 on the page. The 203 definitely wasn't a Cobray, but since it wasn't actually used, I figure it could most likely have been an airsoft version. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

WOWWWEEEE. I just did a ton of work on this. I made a bunch of errors because it took me like four hours, but I think I fixed them all. I apologize for the relatively low quality of my screen caps, but they are DVR downloads from TV, and not very high quality TV. Does anybody have the HD version? Or the DVD? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:One more thing, there is a sniper rifle used by Fiona in one episode, that I can not put my finger on. Here is the image.
[[Image:BNfionaRifle.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Fiona shoots some dudes with some rifle.]]
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Looks to me like a Browning Automatic Rifle, that civilian one that's not actually the B.A.R.-protoAuthor

:I do in fact have HD versions of many episodes on my back-up external drive and have meaning to upload for a while, but right now, I'm juggling a whole bunch of different things (including IMFDB pages). At some point, I plan to do a huge re-vamp on this page (it was supposed to be BEFORE Season 3 started, but obviously, that didn't pan out for me). If you want a preview, take a look at some of the shots I've been meaning to upload but haven't gotten around to yet:

:[[Image:Vlcsnap-153758.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
:[[Image:Vlcsnap-409605.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

:Also, a few other things: Please mention the episode beneath the screenshot, and name the characters/actors who use guns if you can. I use IMDB to make sure I have my info correct. For instance, the hijacker in Episode 2.07 (the guy with the nickel Jericho) is named Gerard and is played by [[Max Martini]] (same dude who's on "The Unit"). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

he played MSG. Mack Gerhardt in the Unit. he was also in season 2 or 3 of 24 (if sum1 has any screenshots, i believe he had a MP5.

:To whoever did the Steyr Scout, how'd you identify it as such, and the BAR maybe we should rephrase it to somethign like "not to be confused the the m1918 Browning Automatic Rifle" instead of calling it a civie version since they are two different firearms.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:I'm beginning to think that the Steyr scout, isn't. The Barrel is not fluted and maybe a little thick, the bolt handle is different, and im doubting the reciever, and the stock is not a Steyr's. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::I looked at it again, you're right. I mostly guessed on that anyway. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 06:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Whoever put the gun that Michael used in the pilot episode to get rid of the drug dealer as a Jericho/Baby Eagle needs to get their eyes checked. That's definetly not a Jericho. I want to say it's a smith and wesson but don't know which model. Here's the image I got

[[Image:Gun pilot.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

It is either a S&W 4006 or S&W 5906 because it exhibits the double stack bulge. I'm leaning towards the 5906 because of the hooked trigger guard.[[Special:Contributions/96.32.185.136|96.32.185.136]] 22:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm removing the ones that are under the Jericho section that are wrong. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 00:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

== Fiona's assault rifle ==

I was looking for the model of Fiona's souped up assault rifle, that she stole from the gun-smuggler (after Michael poured gunpowder all over his face).

It can also be seen in Season 2 Ep 14 @ 40:00 - it kind of looks like an SG-500, but I don't think it is. Anyone got any ideas?

== Sam's Rifle ==
In the season 3 finale, Sam uses an assault rifle with a scope to get the kidnappers onto a boat and help free Fiona. Since Bruce Campbell is left handed, he covers up most of the rifle when he's shown firing. It looks like an AR derivative, either an M16A4 or SPR. I don't think it's an SR-25. They took the episode down from Hulu so I can't get a screenshot of it.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 07:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

==Mark 23==
thanks for the compliment to whoever took the screencaps I posted on HKpro.com forums for the Mk23 sub heading. Cheers!

==sig 226==

i am pretty sure the black sig in the first picture being held by the michael character is a 228, the barrel looks short and in a later episode he mentions the 228, it seems to be his prefered weapon, and i'm not sure but i think the third one is as well,

==Errors==
2 Errors of note: The Steyr is a Remington 700. The stock isn't even close, the barrel doesn't have the twist and the scout rail isn't present. It's not a ProHunter either.

The Winchester 1300's aren't either. Note the lack of v-shaped reciever. They're Remington 870 Marine Magnum's.

I don't think they're even real. They look more like airsoft. The barrels don't seem to be connected to the magazine tube, there doesn't seem to be a safety or a pump release in the places you'd find them on a 1300 or 870. also we cannot see the ejection port which helps matters a great deal. I'm going to watch the episode again when i get home and look again. I also don't remembering them actually firing but there being an effect in its place.[I would ad my signature but I haven't been able to access my account as of late, Mercer]

==Accuracy International==

During the episode "Double Booked" Michael apparently assembles an "AI AWC" but it has a standard Remington 700 bolt handle (flat and knurled), I think it appears to be a Remington 700 with AICS which does have a folding option, anyone prove me wrong? Update: I changed the name to reflect what this is.

== Desert Eagle ==

Added Desert Eagle to handgun list. Season 3 Episode 4 "Fearless Leader". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 17:44, 13 January 2010
(UTC)

== Beretta Tomcat==

In Season 3 Episode 8 "Friends Like These". Fiona uses a Beretta Tomcat on Natalie. Can anyone get a screenshot of this.
==Sig not Glock==
[[Image:BNglock19black.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mike shoots at the hood of a car with another commandeered Glock 19.]]
- This is not a Glock, look at the grip above Michael's hand. It's a Sig, though it looks too big for his 228. Maybe a 226?

==HK USP compact 45==
I deleted the bit about Fiona's walther ppk because it said that it was the gun Michael used to shoot Strickler. That is wrong Mike uses Fiona's HK USP compact and that is what she leaves at his house.

on the topic of HK USPs what kind is Seymour (arms dealer) seen using when he pulls it on Mike. the barrel looks to small to be a .45 but it appeared to be under HK USP .45

==Fiona's M1==
At the end of the episode when Sam is seen disposing of the weapons it is not a stretch to assume he kept some of them for their use, explaining where Fiona got the rifle.
''The M-1A is a Springfield Armory weapon designed for civilian use, because of this the rifle is much more likely to be the M-1A since it is a Civvie version. It is NOT an EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle)the barrel is too long to be the EBR, which was designed for DMR as well as CQB. It is more likely the EMR (Enhanced Marksman Rifle) which has a longer barrel.''
 

:''The "Family Business" M-1A appears to be a SOPMOD conversion (note the slightly different stock and a lack of a front iron sight) instead of the EMR/EBR Fiona uses in "Turn and Burn."

==Fiona's rifle==
What is the rifle Fiona uses to shoot Carla with?

I think it's the BAR she used earlier in the series.
[[Image:BurnS2 2063.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Doesn't BAR stand for : Browning AUTOMATIC Rifle? The rifle in the image clearly has a bolt handle. Rob the Fiend
it's a different BAR. Not the ww2 rifle

I know it's not the WW2 rifle, read this: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=002B&catalog_=B

::You are right. Definitely NOT the BAR Safari, being that rifle is a semiautomatic and she does have a bolt action visible in the pic. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:05, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

==S3Ep13==
This is probably the best yet! Man Burn Notice is awesome. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== AWM Season 3 Episode 11 ==

Toward the end Fiona pulls out what I believe is an Arctic Warfare Magnum.

== Great show ==
I love this show. And Fiona is my ultimate dream girl. A knockout who you can take to the gunstore and range! But I wouldn't be able to use the old excuse of buying her a particular firearm knowing that she would never use it and I would. Not only would she use it she's probably break your arm if you tried to take it! What a woman.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:Heh, right on. "Honey! I got you a S&W in .44! The recoil might be a bit much for you though, I'll just use it inste-*CRACK* AUUUUGHHGGGG!" --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== CZ 75BD ==

In season 3 episode 6 "the hunter" Michael and his new friend John Beck use a CZ 75BD pistol.
[[Image:Bn1.jpg]] [[Image:Bn2.jpg]] [[Image:Bn3.jpg]]

==BNS4==
Damn I love this show. Season 4 started out with a BANG!!!!! [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

==Khan's Gun==

what was kahn using in s4e2? im thinking fn fnp

[[ Image:Screencap.jpg ]]

That would be a Walther p99AS in what could be a 9mm or a 40S&W. [[Spades of Columbia]]

: Nope. [[Smith & Wesson SW99]], with a titanium or hard-chromed slide. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 18:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

you are absolutely correct on that Sir, tip of the hat to ya, good eye on the front slide surrations. [[Spades of Columbia]]

==What are these==

these guns look really dressed up

[[ Image:Bns4.jpg ]]

Heckler and Koch SL8 with suppressors

-Double Agent M

Whats with the bent up areas under the scopes

- Just a somewhat unconventional frame design.

[[Image:HK-SL8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch SL8 target match with 10 round magazine - 5.56x45mm.]]

[[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

So...what was the Gun that Josh pulled on the crooked invester in the most recent episode? It was Sam's buddy that Michael dissarmed at one point.[[Spades of Columbia]]

Screenies [[Image:IMFDB1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Resized the screenies..]]

[[Image:IMFDB2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

I'm thinking a shiny Sig sauer p22xr?

looks like a non gun

Wow, fricking huge screens. It is neither a SIG or a non gun, but a Taurus PT940. Probably the same one used in the other bank episode.

Sorry for the huge screenies. From what i can see on taurus website they dont make the pt940 stainless with rail. Sure it could be aftermarket or the black could have been removed. But still the pt940 with rail has 2 notches in the rail and from what i can tell this gun dosnt. I am no taurus fan neither a taurus knower on the other hand.

It could be the 9mm version of the PT940. I think it is called the model 911 maybe? I know that the Taurus 9mm version comes with rails. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 12:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Original CZ 75... ==

In Season 3 Episode 14, the Polish agent at the lighthouse pulls what I believe is an original CZ 75 (pre B). I don't know how to upload screen caps, but if someone else wants to confirm this, it's at 4:41 in the episode. - [[User:WATYF|WATYF]]

I'm sure it's a pre B, rounded trigger guard is a dead giveaway.

[[Image:Burn Notice S03 E14 CZ 75 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

--[[User:Noe|Noe]] 12:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==S04E06==

Does anyone know what concealed carry pistol Buddy is carrying at roughly 8 min? I can't take screenies on this computer, they just turn out all black :<.

==S04E09==
Cohen or what the dudes name was, was holding a H&K P30 on Michael

== Breaking Up By Season? ==

The show has been renewed for 2 more seasons, so it may be time to break up this page by season. The only thing is that many of the same guns are used in every season. Thoughts? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I personally dont see the point of breaking it up into seasons. Most entries are marked with season and episode so if your wondering about a specific one most web browsers have a built in search function. On Opera and Firefox to open the search box just use Ctrl+F. Noe

== ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? ==

After Michael and Fiona get out of Seymours mansion after Seymour attacks them is the "laser targeting assist" she has on her rifle an ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? --[[User:ShootoutWithDave|ShootoutWithDave]] 15:21, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

==Remington 870==

[[Burn_Notice#Remington_870_Pistol_Grip]]

wrong....I don't know what it is. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 14:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Burn Notice

2010-08-15T13:26:52Z

ShootoutWithDave: /* ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? */

==Lol Wut?==
Relocated this from the main page. It made even less sense before I cleaned up the spelling and grammar errors: "I know that in the new Burn Notice episode "Question & Answer," a thug uses a Colt Diamondback but I don't know how to add it. Will someone do it for me? It is "Double Down" look it up." Whatever, dood. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 04:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Formatting==
This page's formatting was really atrocious, so I did quite a bit of editing. I really don't want to see that happen again, y'all.

Anyway, I have the Pilot episode of this show on my laptop now, so I will screencap it in the near future, and maybe buy some more episodes on iTunes for the other guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yea...I'm doing some work too and your kinda screwing up my practice here. No hard feelings, but i got it and you take it from here. (The Winchester)

:Oh, OK. Well, this page's formatting has actually been pretty bad for a while now. Anyway, for practice, I would recommend hitting the "Edit" button on other people's pages to study how formatting was done. I'm also in the habit of recycling my own code when it comes to inserting gun entries on a page (i.e. if I see a movie with an MP5A3, the first thing I do is go to a movie page I know has MP5A3s in correct format, cut and paste all of the text for the gun entry, paste it in my page, and edit the text as necessary to conform to my new page).

::yea, i've been doing that, but i think i'm starting to get better at it. Thanks for the advice though. -Winchester

::Hey what was the revolver used by the security guy to kill Chandler in the latest episode? It looks like a Smith and Wesson Model 29 but I'm not sure. MW

:Well, i have the 1st season on dvd and i could do it in the future. i have a few movies that im still committed to, so it might be a while. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

A molotov cocktail isn't a firearm, so I've removed it. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 08:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I just finished watching the premier episode of Season 3 on USA and noted usage of an M4A1 and an M203 on the page. The 203 definitely wasn't a Cobray, but since it wasn't actually used, I figure it could most likely have been an airsoft version. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

WOWWWEEEE. I just did a ton of work on this. I made a bunch of errors because it took me like four hours, but I think I fixed them all. I apologize for the relatively low quality of my screen caps, but they are DVR downloads from TV, and not very high quality TV. Does anybody have the HD version? Or the DVD? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:One more thing, there is a sniper rifle used by Fiona in one episode, that I can not put my finger on. Here is the image.
[[Image:BNfionaRifle.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Fiona shoots some dudes with some rifle.]]
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Looks to me like a Browning Automatic Rifle, that civilian one that's not actually the B.A.R.-protoAuthor

:I do in fact have HD versions of many episodes on my back-up external drive and have meaning to upload for a while, but right now, I'm juggling a whole bunch of different things (including IMFDB pages). At some point, I plan to do a huge re-vamp on this page (it was supposed to be BEFORE Season 3 started, but obviously, that didn't pan out for me). If you want a preview, take a look at some of the shots I've been meaning to upload but haven't gotten around to yet:

:[[Image:Vlcsnap-153758.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
:[[Image:Vlcsnap-409605.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

:Also, a few other things: Please mention the episode beneath the screenshot, and name the characters/actors who use guns if you can. I use IMDB to make sure I have my info correct. For instance, the hijacker in Episode 2.07 (the guy with the nickel Jericho) is named Gerard and is played by [[Max Martini]] (same dude who's on "The Unit"). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

he played MSG. Mack Gerhardt in the Unit. he was also in season 2 or 3 of 24 (if sum1 has any screenshots, i believe he had a MP5.

:To whoever did the Steyr Scout, how'd you identify it as such, and the BAR maybe we should rephrase it to somethign like "not to be confused the the m1918 Browning Automatic Rifle" instead of calling it a civie version since they are two different firearms.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:I'm beginning to think that the Steyr scout, isn't. The Barrel is not fluted and maybe a little thick, the bolt handle is different, and im doubting the reciever, and the stock is not a Steyr's. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::I looked at it again, you're right. I mostly guessed on that anyway. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 06:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Whoever put the gun that Michael used in the pilot episode to get rid of the drug dealer as a Jericho/Baby Eagle needs to get their eyes checked. That's definetly not a Jericho. I want to say it's a smith and wesson but don't know which model. Here's the image I got

[[Image:Gun pilot.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

It is either a S&W 4006 or S&W 5906 because it exhibits the double stack bulge. I'm leaning towards the 5906 because of the hooked trigger guard.[[Special:Contributions/96.32.185.136|96.32.185.136]] 22:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm removing the ones that are under the Jericho section that are wrong. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 00:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

== Fiona's assault rifle ==

I was looking for the model of Fiona's souped up assault rifle, that she stole from the gun-smuggler (after Michael poured gunpowder all over his face).

It can also be seen in Season 2 Ep 14 @ 40:00 - it kind of looks like an SG-500, but I don't think it is. Anyone got any ideas?

== Sam's Rifle ==
In the season 3 finale, Sam uses an assault rifle with a scope to get the kidnappers onto a boat and help free Fiona. Since Bruce Campbell is left handed, he covers up most of the rifle when he's shown firing. It looks like an AR derivative, either an M16A4 or SPR. I don't think it's an SR-25. They took the episode down from Hulu so I can't get a screenshot of it.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 07:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

==Mark 23==
thanks for the compliment to whoever took the screencaps I posted on HKpro.com forums for the Mk23 sub heading. Cheers!

==sig 226==

i am pretty sure the black sig in the first picture being held by the michael character is a 228, the barrel looks short and in a later episode he mentions the 228, it seems to be his prefered weapon, and i'm not sure but i think the third one is as well,

==Errors==
2 Errors of note: The Steyr is a Remington 700. The stock isn't even close, the barrel doesn't have the twist and the scout rail isn't present. It's not a ProHunter either.

The Winchester 1300's aren't either. Note the lack of v-shaped reciever. They're Remington 870 Marine Magnum's.

I don't think they're even real. They look more like airsoft. The barrels don't seem to be connected to the magazine tube, there doesn't seem to be a safety or a pump release in the places you'd find them on a 1300 or 870. also we cannot see the ejection port which helps matters a great deal. I'm going to watch the episode again when i get home and look again. I also don't remembering them actually firing but there being an effect in its place.[I would ad my signature but I haven't been able to access my account as of late, Mercer]

==Accuracy International==

During the episode "Double Booked" Michael apparently assembles an "AI AWC" but it has a standard Remington 700 bolt handle (flat and knurled), I think it appears to be a Remington 700 with AICS which does have a folding option, anyone prove me wrong? Update: I changed the name to reflect what this is.

== Desert Eagle ==

Added Desert Eagle to handgun list. Season 3 Episode 4 "Fearless Leader". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 17:44, 13 January 2010
(UTC)

== Beretta Tomcat==

In Season 3 Episode 8 "Friends Like These". Fiona uses a Beretta Tomcat on Natalie. Can anyone get a screenshot of this.
==Sig not Glock==
[[Image:BNglock19black.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mike shoots at the hood of a car with another commandeered Glock 19.]]
- This is not a Glock, look at the grip above Michael's hand. It's a Sig, though it looks too big for his 228. Maybe a 226?

==HK USP compact 45==
I deleted the bit about Fiona's walther ppk because it said that it was the gun Michael used to shoot Strickler. That is wrong Mike uses Fiona's HK USP compact and that is what she leaves at his house.

on the topic of HK USPs what kind is Seymour (arms dealer) seen using when he pulls it on Mike. the barrel looks to small to be a .45 but it appeared to be under HK USP .45

==Fiona's M1==
At the end of the episode when Sam is seen disposing of the weapons it is not a stretch to assume he kept some of them for their use, explaining where Fiona got the rifle.
''The M-1A is a Springfield Armory weapon designed for civilian use, because of this the rifle is much more likely to be the M-1A since it is a Civvie version. It is NOT an EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle)the barrel is too long to be the EBR, which was designed for DMR as well as CQB. It is more likely the EMR (Enhanced Marksman Rifle) which has a longer barrel.''
 

:''The "Family Business" M-1A appears to be a SOPMOD conversion (note the slightly different stock and a lack of a front iron sight) instead of the EMR/EBR Fiona uses in "Turn and Burn."

==Fiona's rifle==
What is the rifle Fiona uses to shoot Carla with?

I think it's the BAR she used earlier in the series.
[[Image:BurnS2 2063.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Doesn't BAR stand for : Browning AUTOMATIC Rifle? The rifle in the image clearly has a bolt handle. Rob the Fiend
it's a different BAR. Not the ww2 rifle

I know it's not the WW2 rifle, read this: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=002B&catalog_=B

::You are right. Definitely NOT the BAR Safari, being that rifle is a semiautomatic and she does have a bolt action visible in the pic. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:05, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

==S3Ep13==
This is probably the best yet! Man Burn Notice is awesome. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== AWM Season 3 Episode 11 ==

Toward the end Fiona pulls out what I believe is an Arctic Warfare Magnum.

== Great show ==
I love this show. And Fiona is my ultimate dream girl. A knockout who you can take to the gunstore and range! But I wouldn't be able to use the old excuse of buying her a particular firearm knowing that she would never use it and I would. Not only would she use it she's probably break your arm if you tried to take it! What a woman.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:Heh, right on. "Honey! I got you a S&W in .44! The recoil might be a bit much for you though, I'll just use it inste-*CRACK* AUUUUGHHGGGG!" --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== CZ 75BD ==

In season 3 episode 6 "the hunter" Michael and his new friend John Beck use a CZ 75BD pistol.
[[Image:Bn1.jpg]] [[Image:Bn2.jpg]] [[Image:Bn3.jpg]]

==BNS4==
Damn I love this show. Season 4 started out with a BANG!!!!! [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

==Khan's Gun==

what was kahn using in s4e2? im thinking fn fnp

[[ Image:Screencap.jpg ]]

That would be a Walther p99AS in what could be a 9mm or a 40S&W. [[Spades of Columbia]]

: Nope. [[Smith & Wesson SW99]], with a titanium or hard-chromed slide. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 18:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

you are absolutely correct on that Sir, tip of the hat to ya, good eye on the front slide surrations. [[Spades of Columbia]]

==What are these==

these guns look really dressed up

[[ Image:Bns4.jpg ]]

Heckler and Koch SL8 with suppressors

-Double Agent M

Whats with the bent up areas under the scopes

- Just a somewhat unconventional frame design.

[[Image:HK-SL8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch SL8 target match with 10 round magazine - 5.56x45mm.]]

[[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

So...what was the Gun that Josh pulled on the crooked invester in the most recent episode? It was Sam's buddy that Michael dissarmed at one point.[[Spades of Columbia]]

Screenies [[Image:IMFDB1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Resized the screenies..]]

[[Image:IMFDB2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

I'm thinking a shiny Sig sauer p22xr?

looks like a non gun

Wow, fricking huge screens. It is neither a SIG or a non gun, but a Taurus PT940. Probably the same one used in the other bank episode.

Sorry for the huge screenies. From what i can see on taurus website they dont make the pt940 stainless with rail. Sure it could be aftermarket or the black could have been removed. But still the pt940 with rail has 2 notches in the rail and from what i can tell this gun dosnt. I am no taurus fan neither a taurus knower on the other hand.

It could be the 9mm version of the PT940. I think it is called the model 911 maybe? I know that the Taurus 9mm version comes with rails. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 12:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Original CZ 75... ==

In Season 3 Episode 14, the Polish agent at the lighthouse pulls what I believe is an original CZ 75 (pre B). I don't know how to upload screen caps, but if someone else wants to confirm this, it's at 4:41 in the episode. - [[User:WATYF|WATYF]]

I'm sure it's a pre B, rounded trigger guard is a dead giveaway.

[[Image:Burn Notice S03 E14 CZ 75 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

--[[User:Noe|Noe]] 12:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==S04E06==

Does anyone know what concealed carry pistol Buddy is carrying at roughly 8 min? I can't take screenies on this computer, they just turn out all black :<.

==S04E09==
Cohen or what the dudes name was, was holding a H&K P30 on Michael

== Breaking Up By Season? ==

The show has been renewed for 2 more seasons, so it may be time to break up this page by season. The only thing is that many of the same guns are used in every season. Thoughts? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I personally dont see the point of breaking it up into seasons. Most entries are marked with season and episode so if your wondering about a specific one most web browsers have a built in search function. On Opera and Firefox to open the search box just use Ctrl+F. Noe

== ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? ==

After Michael and Fiona get out of Seymours mansion after Seymour attacks them is the "laser targeting assist" she has on her rifle an ATPIAL/AN PEQ15?

Talk:Burn Notice

2010-08-15T12:33:20Z

ShootoutWithDave:

==Lol Wut?==
Relocated this from the main page. It made even less sense before I cleaned up the spelling and grammar errors: "I know that in the new Burn Notice episode "Question & Answer," a thug uses a Colt Diamondback but I don't know how to add it. Will someone do it for me? It is "Double Down" look it up." Whatever, dood. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 04:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Formatting==
This page's formatting was really atrocious, so I did quite a bit of editing. I really don't want to see that happen again, y'all.

Anyway, I have the Pilot episode of this show on my laptop now, so I will screencap it in the near future, and maybe buy some more episodes on iTunes for the other guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yea...I'm doing some work too and your kinda screwing up my practice here. No hard feelings, but i got it and you take it from here. (The Winchester)

:Oh, OK. Well, this page's formatting has actually been pretty bad for a while now. Anyway, for practice, I would recommend hitting the "Edit" button on other people's pages to study how formatting was done. I'm also in the habit of recycling my own code when it comes to inserting gun entries on a page (i.e. if I see a movie with an MP5A3, the first thing I do is go to a movie page I know has MP5A3s in correct format, cut and paste all of the text for the gun entry, paste it in my page, and edit the text as necessary to conform to my new page).

::yea, i've been doing that, but i think i'm starting to get better at it. Thanks for the advice though. -Winchester

::Hey what was the revolver used by the security guy to kill Chandler in the latest episode? It looks like a Smith and Wesson Model 29 but I'm not sure. MW

:Well, i have the 1st season on dvd and i could do it in the future. i have a few movies that im still committed to, so it might be a while. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

A molotov cocktail isn't a firearm, so I've removed it. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 08:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I just finished watching the premier episode of Season 3 on USA and noted usage of an M4A1 and an M203 on the page. The 203 definitely wasn't a Cobray, but since it wasn't actually used, I figure it could most likely have been an airsoft version. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

WOWWWEEEE. I just did a ton of work on this. I made a bunch of errors because it took me like four hours, but I think I fixed them all. I apologize for the relatively low quality of my screen caps, but they are DVR downloads from TV, and not very high quality TV. Does anybody have the HD version? Or the DVD? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:One more thing, there is a sniper rifle used by Fiona in one episode, that I can not put my finger on. Here is the image.
[[Image:BNfionaRifle.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Fiona shoots some dudes with some rifle.]]
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Looks to me like a Browning Automatic Rifle, that civilian one that's not actually the B.A.R.-protoAuthor

:I do in fact have HD versions of many episodes on my back-up external drive and have meaning to upload for a while, but right now, I'm juggling a whole bunch of different things (including IMFDB pages). At some point, I plan to do a huge re-vamp on this page (it was supposed to be BEFORE Season 3 started, but obviously, that didn't pan out for me). If you want a preview, take a look at some of the shots I've been meaning to upload but haven't gotten around to yet:

:[[Image:Vlcsnap-153758.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
:[[Image:Vlcsnap-409605.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

:Also, a few other things: Please mention the episode beneath the screenshot, and name the characters/actors who use guns if you can. I use IMDB to make sure I have my info correct. For instance, the hijacker in Episode 2.07 (the guy with the nickel Jericho) is named Gerard and is played by [[Max Martini]] (same dude who's on "The Unit"). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

he played MSG. Mack Gerhardt in the Unit. he was also in season 2 or 3 of 24 (if sum1 has any screenshots, i believe he had a MP5.

:To whoever did the Steyr Scout, how'd you identify it as such, and the BAR maybe we should rephrase it to somethign like "not to be confused the the m1918 Browning Automatic Rifle" instead of calling it a civie version since they are two different firearms.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:I'm beginning to think that the Steyr scout, isn't. The Barrel is not fluted and maybe a little thick, the bolt handle is different, and im doubting the reciever, and the stock is not a Steyr's. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::I looked at it again, you're right. I mostly guessed on that anyway. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 06:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Whoever put the gun that Michael used in the pilot episode to get rid of the drug dealer as a Jericho/Baby Eagle needs to get their eyes checked. That's definetly not a Jericho. I want to say it's a smith and wesson but don't know which model. Here's the image I got

[[Image:Gun pilot.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

It is either a S&W 4006 or S&W 5906 because it exhibits the double stack bulge. I'm leaning towards the 5906 because of the hooked trigger guard.[[Special:Contributions/96.32.185.136|96.32.185.136]] 22:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm removing the ones that are under the Jericho section that are wrong. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 00:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

== Fiona's assault rifle ==

I was looking for the model of Fiona's souped up assault rifle, that she stole from the gun-smuggler (after Michael poured gunpowder all over his face).

It can also be seen in Season 2 Ep 14 @ 40:00 - it kind of looks like an SG-500, but I don't think it is. Anyone got any ideas?

== Sam's Rifle ==
In the season 3 finale, Sam uses an assault rifle with a scope to get the kidnappers onto a boat and help free Fiona. Since Bruce Campbell is left handed, he covers up most of the rifle when he's shown firing. It looks like an AR derivative, either an M16A4 or SPR. I don't think it's an SR-25. They took the episode down from Hulu so I can't get a screenshot of it.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 07:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

==Mark 23==
thanks for the compliment to whoever took the screencaps I posted on HKpro.com forums for the Mk23 sub heading. Cheers!

==sig 226==

i am pretty sure the black sig in the first picture being held by the michael character is a 228, the barrel looks short and in a later episode he mentions the 228, it seems to be his prefered weapon, and i'm not sure but i think the third one is as well,

==Errors==
2 Errors of note: The Steyr is a Remington 700. The stock isn't even close, the barrel doesn't have the twist and the scout rail isn't present. It's not a ProHunter either.

The Winchester 1300's aren't either. Note the lack of v-shaped reciever. They're Remington 870 Marine Magnum's.

I don't think they're even real. They look more like airsoft. The barrels don't seem to be connected to the magazine tube, there doesn't seem to be a safety or a pump release in the places you'd find them on a 1300 or 870. also we cannot see the ejection port which helps matters a great deal. I'm going to watch the episode again when i get home and look again. I also don't remembering them actually firing but there being an effect in its place.[I would ad my signature but I haven't been able to access my account as of late, Mercer]

==Accuracy International==

During the episode "Double Booked" Michael apparently assembles an "AI AWC" but it has a standard Remington 700 bolt handle (flat and knurled), I think it appears to be a Remington 700 with AICS which does have a folding option, anyone prove me wrong? Update: I changed the name to reflect what this is.

== Desert Eagle ==

Added Desert Eagle to handgun list. Season 3 Episode 4 "Fearless Leader". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 17:44, 13 January 2010
(UTC)

== Beretta Tomcat==

In Season 3 Episode 8 "Friends Like These". Fiona uses a Beretta Tomcat on Natalie. Can anyone get a screenshot of this.
==Sig not Glock==
[[Image:BNglock19black.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mike shoots at the hood of a car with another commandeered Glock 19.]]
- This is not a Glock, look at the grip above Michael's hand. It's a Sig, though it looks too big for his 228. Maybe a 226?

==HK USP compact 45==
I deleted the bit about Fiona's walther ppk because it said that it was the gun Michael used to shoot Strickler. That is wrong Mike uses Fiona's HK USP compact and that is what she leaves at his house.

on the topic of HK USPs what kind is Seymour (arms dealer) seen using when he pulls it on Mike. the barrel looks to small to be a .45 but it appeared to be under HK USP .45

==Fiona's M1==
At the end of the episode when Sam is seen disposing of the weapons it is not a stretch to assume he kept some of them for their use, explaining where Fiona got the rifle.
''The M-1A is a Springfield Armory weapon designed for civilian use, because of this the rifle is much more likely to be the M-1A since it is a Civvie version. It is NOT an EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle)the barrel is too long to be the EBR, which was designed for DMR as well as CQB. It is more likely the EMR (Enhanced Marksman Rifle) which has a longer barrel.''
 

:''The "Family Business" M-1A appears to be a SOPMOD conversion (note the slightly different stock and a lack of a front iron sight) instead of the EMR/EBR Fiona uses in "Turn and Burn."

==Fiona's rifle==
What is the rifle Fiona uses to shoot Carla with?

I think it's the BAR she used earlier in the series.
[[Image:BurnS2 2063.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Doesn't BAR stand for : Browning AUTOMATIC Rifle? The rifle in the image clearly has a bolt handle. Rob the Fiend
it's a different BAR. Not the ww2 rifle

I know it's not the WW2 rifle, read this: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=002B&catalog_=B

::You are right. Definitely NOT the BAR Safari, being that rifle is a semiautomatic and she does have a bolt action visible in the pic. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:05, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

==S3Ep13==
This is probably the best yet! Man Burn Notice is awesome. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== AWM Season 3 Episode 11 ==

Toward the end Fiona pulls out what I believe is an Arctic Warfare Magnum.

== Great show ==
I love this show. And Fiona is my ultimate dream girl. A knockout who you can take to the gunstore and range! But I wouldn't be able to use the old excuse of buying her a particular firearm knowing that she would never use it and I would. Not only would she use it she's probably break your arm if you tried to take it! What a woman.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:Heh, right on. "Honey! I got you a S&W in .44! The recoil might be a bit much for you though, I'll just use it inste-*CRACK* AUUUUGHHGGGG!" --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

== CZ 75BD ==

In season 3 episode 6 "the hunter" Michael and his new friend John Beck use a CZ 75BD pistol.
[[Image:Bn1.jpg]] [[Image:Bn2.jpg]] [[Image:Bn3.jpg]]

==BNS4==
Damn I love this show. Season 4 started out with a BANG!!!!! [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

==Khan's Gun==

what was kahn using in s4e2? im thinking fn fnp

[[ Image:Screencap.jpg ]]

That would be a Walther p99AS in what could be a 9mm or a 40S&W. [[Spades of Columbia]]

: Nope. [[Smith & Wesson SW99]], with a titanium or hard-chromed slide. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 18:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

you are absolutely correct on that Sir, tip of the hat to ya, good eye on the front slide surrations. [[Spades of Columbia]]

==What are these==

these guns look really dressed up

[[ Image:Bns4.jpg ]]

Heckler and Koch SL8 with suppressors

-Double Agent M

Whats with the bent up areas under the scopes

- Just a somewhat unconventional frame design.

[[Image:HK-SL8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch SL8 target match with 10 round magazine - 5.56x45mm.]]

[[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

So...what was the Gun that Josh pulled on the crooked invester in the most recent episode? It was Sam's buddy that Michael dissarmed at one point.[[Spades of Columbia]]

Screenies [[Image:IMFDB1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Resized the screenies..]]

[[Image:IMFDB2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

I'm thinking a shiny Sig sauer p22xr?

looks like a non gun

Wow, fricking huge screens. It is neither a SIG or a non gun, but a Taurus PT940. Probably the same one used in the other bank episode.

Sorry for the huge screenies. From what i can see on taurus website they dont make the pt940 stainless with rail. Sure it could be aftermarket or the black could have been removed. But still the pt940 with rail has 2 notches in the rail and from what i can tell this gun dosnt. I am no taurus fan neither a taurus knower on the other hand.

It could be the 9mm version of the PT940. I think it is called the model 911 maybe? I know that the Taurus 9mm version comes with rails. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 12:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Original CZ 75... ==

In Season 3 Episode 14, the Polish agent at the lighthouse pulls what I believe is an original CZ 75 (pre B). I don't know how to upload screen caps, but if someone else wants to confirm this, it's at 4:41 in the episode. - [[User:WATYF|WATYF]]

I'm sure it's a pre B, rounded trigger guard is a dead giveaway.

[[Image:Burn Notice S03 E14 CZ 75 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

--[[User:Noe|Noe]] 12:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==S04E06==

Does anyone know what concealed carry pistol Buddy is carrying at roughly 8 min? I can't take screenies on this computer, they just turn out all black :<.

==S04E09==
Cohen or what the dudes name was, was holding a H&K P30 on Michael

== Breaking Up By Season? ==

The show has been renewed for 2 more seasons, so it may be time to break up this page by season. The only thing is that many of the same guns are used in every season. Thoughts? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I personally dont see the point of breaking it up into seasons. Most entries are marked with season and episode so if your wondering about a specific one most web browsers have a built in search function. On Opera and Firefox to open the search box just use Ctrl+F. Noe

== ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? ==

After Michael and Fiona get out of Seymours mansion after Seymour attacks them is the "laser tagetting assist" she has on her rifle an ATPIAL/AN PEQ15?

Talk:Stargate Universe

2010-06-16T18:55:36Z

ShootoutWithDave: /* The Lucian Alliance */

Colonel Everett Young using a G36 as a crutch onboard the Destiny not a UMP, and a UMP is to short to be used as a crutch

Could someone help me identify a gun??

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s96/Xodez/normal_101_airpart1_003.jpg?t=1248127043

On the man lying down (Colonel Young) he has a gun in the cross draw holster and i think it looks alot like a 1911 but i'm not sure so if anyone could help :D

:Beretta 92FS.-protoAuthor

::Are you sure? I don't think it looks like a Beretta....

:Not sure entirely.-protoAuthor

::Looks alot like a Beretta Cougar-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:20, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:Custom M1911. It looks alot like one of my guns. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:The gun's grip looks EXACTLY like the one off of a Cougar-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
::You said that already. At any rate, when the show actually airs, we'll get better looks at the sidearms anyway. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Definetely not a 1911 grips to wide and bulky

could it be a Para Ordnance varient

Yeah, my first thought is a double stack 1911. The grip looks a bit like my Kimber BP Ten II, but this is obviously a full size pistol. Take a look at this Para Ordnance P14-45. You can almost see the beaver-tail grip safety in the shadow and the barrel looks like a 1911, definitely not a Beretta. Looks pretty damn exact if you ask me... Eagleye1022

http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=69

We can say that it is a 1911 from a production still... added the picture and the 1911 to the article--[[User:Colonel Swede|Colonel Swede]] 15:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

==So is this Stargate done ala Battlestar Galactica?==
Do I smell dark sets, moody lighting, grainy footage, shaky hand held camera work with snap zooms, edgy morbid themes? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:40, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yes. And silly looking aliens.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

::Well BSG didn't have silly looking aliens. Plus all those shaky hand held camera action and rock music are for the trailers and promo. We'll have to see. I am NOT so sure about this new guy who seemed like a random kid they took from a teen comedy movie. I mean, almost all the characters are too young to be in Stargate. We're our Shepard/Cameron character? Where's our sexy or tough alien team member? Where's our fearless leader? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:29, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, I think the whole point of this series is to show what would happen when you took people pseudo trained for off world exploration and left them without leaders. They wanted to make this show more about the human element. That's probably why they don't have any battle hardened fearless leader types, because they're not supposed to be. [[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 19:40, 11 October 2009 (SMT)

::There may be more drama, but at the cost of believability. There are plenty of moments of brain-bendingly stupid or incompetent behaviour in this show (very little of which happened when Richard Dean Anderson, or Ben Browder, or the cast of Atlantis were at the helm), especially on the civilian side. Sometimes I wish there was a character like Galen Tyrol from BSG (played by Aaron Douglas--he needs his own page with his own new Canadian show "The Bridge") to get up and scream "This is not a democracy! We follow the LT!" into some of the civilian's ears, as he did in Season 2 of nBSG. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

== Screen caps up ==

Most are from promo photos, but a couple are from trailers. Have yet to see one P90 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

And the first episodes of this new series is out. Not too exciting and not one gun fired in the entire episode. Disappointing already [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

==Screen cap==

I'm just wondering what program are used to get the screen caps??

Well I download the episode and my player, which is Jet Audio, has a button you press for screen caps. I have to time it cause there's a delay in the button, but that aside, it works pretty well. I have to watch out for which kind of file I save it under. And whoever you are, don't forget to use "[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:45, 6 October 2009 (UTC)" to sign your username so we know who said what. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:45, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

== Air III: M9==
While watching Air III i noticed that Greer chambered his M9 several times without shooting it inbetween. First when he draw it on Rush when they begin brawling over water and then later when he gives it to Eli. --[[User:Colonel Swede|Colonel Swede]] 16:25, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== Number of weapons ==
I remember that in the season premier, they were counting the guns and said that including sidearms, they only had 23 with them. I guess this limits the guns to what we have already seen on the show so far. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 19:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

I remember Greer saying 40 something --[[User:Colonel Swede|Colonel Swede]] 12:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

It is 23. I recorded Air 1 and played it back. At first I thought Greer said 43 but it's 23. [[Bad Boy]]

== P90 ==
I removed the P90 until it is seen on the show --[[User:Colonel Swede|Colonel Swede]] 12:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

: Saw the P90 on the Stargate magazine a month ago. It will be on the show. They just haven't aired it yet. I put the P90 section as a placeholder to save me TIME. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

==Check out this video==

Just released last week, armorer Rob Fournier shows off some of the weapons used on the episode "Time".

http://stargate.mgm.com/view/content/1835/index.html

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

"It's called a mag. A clip is something women use to put in their hair." Ha. Love it. Very nice.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 04:44, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

This is a great video, this guy know his stuff, except when he mis-identify the G36K as the KV. Look like there will be dual sight G36Ks coming. Didn't the guy clearly stated that the UMP fire .45 ACP rounds? How come the UMP section says .40 instead? --[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 07:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

:The "KV" is what H&K calls the export version of the G36K now, so he actually got it correct. As for the UMP section, that's a mistake on the part of the person who wrote the section. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

::But the G36K he got in his hand clearly got dual sight, so it can't be the KV right? --[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 17:01, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

:::Nope, because the carry handle/sights are easily replaceable. The only difference between the German military-issue G36s and the Export models is that the ''Bundeswehr'' gets the dual sights for free, while export customers have to pay extra for it. The only way to know the difference for sure is by looking at what it says on the receiver. But any movie or TV show filmed outside of Germany will be using export models (including this show, which is filmed in Canada), so short answer is that the G36Ks in this show would have to be the KV model. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:01, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

:I put down that the UMP is a .40 because it's hard to tell because both the .40 and the .45 UMPs uses the straight magazine. So if it is IDed by the armorer that it is a .45, then change it. I just lost my torrent site for movies, and TV shows, so until I find a new one, I won't be capping a lot anymore. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

It is a .45. At first I thought the armorer said .40 which is what I put down but it was very late at night and I didn't hear it well enough. My bad on that one. Also, whoever put the weapon holds 27 rounds and the armorer are wrong: The UMP .45 holds 25 rounds standard while the .40 and 9mm hold 30. [[Bad Boy]]

:So is it a .40 or a .45? In the video the armorer said that it held 30 rounds. I'm guessing that 'officially' it is a .45 in the stargate universe but it's really a .40 so that they can have longer shooting sequences with it. My guess though.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 17:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Well in the video, the Armorer, say it fires a .45, but he also said it held 27 rounds. Maybe he got it mixed up. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

== The Lucian Alliance ==

I see that the Lucian Alliance are using Chinese QBZ-95's and I'm sure I spotted a Saiga 12 along the way too, can anyone get screencaps and confirmation on this? --[[User:ShootoutWithDave|ShootoutWithDave]] 18:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

It's the Norinco type 97 since it's made in Canada. Dont think I saw a Saiga. Care to point out which scene had it? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:42, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah well spotted, I knew they was some form of Chinese assault rifle. I'll attempt to locate the scene with it and get back to you.
--[[User:ShootoutWithDave|ShootoutWithDave]] 18:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Stargate Universe

2010-06-16T06:32:09Z

ShootoutWithDave:

Colonel Everett Young using a G36 as a crutch onboard the Destiny not a UMP, and a UMP is to short to be used as a crutch

Could someone help me identify a gun??

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s96/Xodez/normal_101_airpart1_003.jpg?t=1248127043

On the man lying down (Colonel Young) he has a gun in the cross draw holster and i think it looks alot like a 1911 but i'm not sure so if anyone could help :D

:Beretta 92FS.-protoAuthor

::Are you sure? I don't think it looks like a Beretta....

:Not sure entirely.-protoAuthor

::Looks alot like a Beretta Cougar-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:20, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:Custom M1911. It looks alot like one of my guns. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:The gun's grip looks EXACTLY like the one off of a Cougar-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
::You said that already. At any rate, when the show actually airs, we'll get better looks at the sidearms anyway. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Definetely not a 1911 grips to wide and bulky

could it be a Para Ordnance varient

Yeah, my first thought is a double stack 1911. The grip looks a bit like my Kimber BP Ten II, but this is obviously a full size pistol. Take a look at this Para Ordnance P14-45. You can almost see the beaver-tail grip safety in the shadow and the barrel looks like a 1911, definitely not a Beretta. Looks pretty damn exact if you ask me... Eagleye1022

http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=69

We can say that it is a 1911 from a production still... added the picture and the 1911 to the article--[[User:Colonel Swede|Colonel Swede]] 15:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

==So is this Stargate done ala Battlestar Galactica?==
Do I smell dark sets, moody lighting, grainy footage, shaky hand held camera work with snap zooms, edgy morbid themes? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:40, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yes. And silly looking aliens.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

::Well BSG didn't have silly looking aliens. Plus all those shaky hand held camera action and rock music are for the trailers and promo. We'll have to see. I am NOT so sure about this new guy who seemed like a random kid they took from a teen comedy movie. I mean, almost all the characters are too young to be in Stargate. We're our Shepard/Cameron character? Where's our sexy or tough alien team member? Where's our fearless leader? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:29, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, I think the whole point of this series is to show what would happen when you took people pseudo trained for off world exploration and left them without leaders. They wanted to make this show more about the human element. That's probably why they don't have any battle hardened fearless leader types, because they're not supposed to be. [[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 19:40, 11 October 2009 (SMT)

== Screen caps up ==

Most are from promo photos, but a couple are from trailers. Have yet to see one P90 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

And the first episodes of this new series is out. Not too exciting and not one gun fired in the entire episode. Disappointing already [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

==Screen cap==

I'm just wondering what program are used to get the screen caps??

Well I download the episode and my player, which is Jet Audio, has a button you press for screen caps. I have to time it cause there's a delay in the button, but that aside, it works pretty well. I have to watch out for which kind of file I save it under. And whoever you are, don't forget to use "[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:45, 6 October 2009 (UTC)" to sign your username so we know who said what. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:45, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

== Air III: M9==
While watching Air III i noticed that Greer chambered his M9 several times without shooting it inbetween. First when he draw it on Rush when they begin brawling over water and then later when he gives it to Eli. --[[User:Colonel Swede|Colonel Swede]] 16:25, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== Number of weapons ==
I remember that in the season premier, they were counting the guns and said that including sidearms, they only had 23 with them. I guess this limits the guns to what we have already seen on the show so far. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 19:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

I remember Greer saying 40 something --[[User:Colonel Swede|Colonel Swede]] 12:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

It is 23. I recorded Air 1 and played it back. At first I thought Greer said 43 but it's 23. [[Bad Boy]]

== P90 ==
I removed the P90 until it is seen on the show --[[User:Colonel Swede|Colonel Swede]] 12:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

: Saw the P90 on the Stargate magazine a month ago. It will be on the show. They just haven't aired it yet. I put the P90 section as a placeholder to save me TIME. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

==Check out this video==

Just released last week, armorer Rob Fournier shows off some of the weapons used on the episode "Time".

http://stargate.mgm.com/view/content/1835/index.html

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

"It's called a mag. A clip is something women use to put in their hair." Ha. Love it. Very nice.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 04:44, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

This is a great video, this guy know his stuff, except when he mis-identify the G36K as the KV. Look like there will be dual sight G36Ks coming. Didn't the guy clearly stated that the UMP fire .45 ACP rounds? How come the UMP section says .40 instead? --[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 07:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

:The "KV" is what H&K calls the export version of the G36K now, so he actually got it correct. As for the UMP section, that's a mistake on the part of the person who wrote the section. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

::But the G36K he got in his hand clearly got dual sight, so it can't be the KV right? --[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 17:01, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

:::Nope, because the carry handle/sights are easily replaceable. The only difference between the German military-issue G36s and the Export models is that the ''Bundeswehr'' gets the dual sights for free, while export customers have to pay extra for it. The only way to know the difference for sure is by looking at what it says on the receiver. But any movie or TV show filmed outside of Germany will be using export models (including this show, which is filmed in Canada), so short answer is that the G36Ks in this show would have to be the KV model. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:01, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

:I put down that the UMP is a .40 because it's hard to tell because both the .40 and the .45 UMPs uses the straight magazine. So if it is IDed by the armorer that it is a .45, then change it. I just lost my torrent site for movies, and TV shows, so until I find a new one, I won't be capping a lot anymore. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

It is a .45. At first I thought the armorer said .40 which is what I put down but it was very late at night and I didn't hear it well enough. My bad on that one. Also, whoever put the weapon holds 27 rounds and the armorer are wrong: The UMP .45 holds 25 rounds standard while the .40 and 9mm hold 30. [[Bad Boy]]

:So is it a .40 or a .45? In the video the armorer said that it held 30 rounds. I'm guessing that 'officially' it is a .45 in the stargate universe but it's really a .40 so that they can have longer shooting sequences with it. My guess though.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 17:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Well in the video, the Armorer, say it fires a .45, but he also said it held 27 rounds. Maybe he got it mixed up. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

== The Lucian Alliance ==

I see that the Lucian Alliance are using Chinese QBZ-95's and I'm sure I spotted a Saiga 12 along the way too, can anyone get screencaps and confirmation on this?