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User:Sandymon

2017-11-16T22:57:00Z

Sandymon:

Hi there,

As a member of IMFDB for a number of years, often hiding in the shadows and rarely contributing, it is unlikely that anyone will ever visit this page. But, in case anyone does, I think it best to perhaps enlighten them about me.

Nationality: British 

Age: 18-24 

Gender: Male 

Interest in anime: Non-existent 

Interest in films: High 

Interest in television: High 

Interest in videogames: High 

Interest in firearms: High 

Interest in correcting others' mistakes: Unusually, yet not invasively, High 

That's about it, if anyone needs any help with anything, especially proofreading, just let me know, I'd be happy to help :)

[[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

<big><big>'''Favourite weapons'''</big></big>

'''<big>Handguns</big>'''

* Glock 21 and 41
* SIG P227
* Traditional-looking 1911s such as the Remington R1, Colt Series 80, or High Standard 1911, as well as original M1911A1s
* Ruger 22/45 Threaded
* FN Five-SeveN USG
* Webley Mk VI
* Welrod
* Walther P99/PPQ/PPX

'''<big>Long guns</big>'''

* Heckler and Koch 416 D10RS
* Heckler and Koch G36C
* Short Magazine Lee-Enfields (especially the No.1 Mk.III*)
* Ruger Mini-14 series
* L85A2 (post-2007 version)

User:Sandymon

2017-11-16T22:52:33Z

Sandymon:

Hi there,

As a member of IMFDB for a number of years, often hiding in the shadows and rarely contributing, it is unlikely that anyone will ever visit this page. But, in case anyone does, I think it best to perhaps enlighten them about me.

Nationality: British 

Age: 18-24 

Gender: Male 

Interest in anime: Non-existent 

Interest in films: High 

Interest in television: High 

Interest in videogames: High 

Interest in firearms: High 

Interest in correcting others' mistakes: Unusually, yet not invasively, High 

That's about it, if anyone needs any help with anything, especially proofreading, just let me know, I'd be happy to help :)

[[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

<big><big>'''Favourite weapons'''</big></big>

'''<big>Handguns</big>'''

* Glock 21 and 41
* SIG P227
* Traditional-looking 1911s such as the Remington R1, Colt Series 80, or High Standard 1911, as well as the original M1911A1s
* Ruger 22/45 Threaded
* FN Five-SeveN USG
* Webley Mk VI
* Welrod
* Walther P99/PPQ/PPX

'''<big>Long guns</big>'''

* Heckler and Koch 416 D10RS
* Heckler and Koch G36C
* Short Magazine Lee-Enfields (especially the No.1 Mk.III*)
* Ruger Mini-14 series
* L85A2 (post-2007 version)

Spider-Man: Homecoming

2017-11-16T13:17:41Z

Sandymon: /* SIG-Sauer P226 */

{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
|name={{PAGENAME}}
|picture=SpidemanHC-Poster-01.jpg
|caption=
|country=[[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] United States of America
|director=Jon Watts
|date=2017
|language=
|studio=Columbia Pictures Marvel Entertainment LStar capital 
|distributor=Sony Pictures Releasing
|character1=Peter Parker/Spider-Man
|actor1=[[Tom Holland]]
|character2=Adrian Toomes / Vulture
|actor2=[[Michael Keaton]]
|character3=Ned Leeds
|actor3=Jacob Batalon
|character4=Aunt May
|actor4=Marissa Tomei
|character5= Tony Stark/Iron Man
|actor5=[[Robert Downey Jr.]]
}}

'''''Spider-Man: Homecoming''''' is the 2017 "reboot" of the [[Spider-Man]] franchise. [[Tom Holland]] returns as Peter Parker/Spider-Man, who previously was introduced into the [[MCU]] in 2016's ''[[Captain America: Civil War]]''. In the film, Peter must juggle his responsibilities of being a superhero and being a regular high school student. The film was directed by Jon Watts (''[[Cop Car]]'') and the cast includes Marissa Tomei and [[Michael Keaton]], as well as [[Jon Favreau]] and [[Robert Downey Jr.]], who appear as Happy Hogan and Tony Stark, respectively.

{{Film Title}}
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=Shotguns=
==Mossberg 500 Cruiser==
A bank robber wearing an Iron Man mask is seen wielding a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] fitted with a saddle shell holder during a robbery that's thwarted by Spider-man.
[[Image:Mossberg500Cruiser.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser - 12 gauge]]
[[File:SpidermanHC-Shotgun-01.jpg|thumb|600px|none|"Iron Man" stands guard with his Mossberg.]]
[[File:SpidermanHC-Shotgun-02.jpg|thumb|600px|none|"Iron Man" takes aim at Spider-Man...]]
[[File:SpidermanHC-Shotgun-03.jpg|thumb|600px|none|...only to be disarmed by Spider-Man's webbing seconds later.]]

=Handguns=
==Glock 17==
A [[Glock 17]] is carried by Herman Schultz ([[Bokeem Woodbine]]) as well as FBI agents in the film.
[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 (2nd Generation) - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SpiderH 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Agent with his Glock.]]

==SIG-Sauer P228==
[[SIG-Sauer P228]] pistols are pulled by agents with the US Department of Damage Control who take over a salvage operation at the film's beginning flashback.
[[Image:Sig-Sauer-P228.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P228 - 9mm.]]
[[File:SpiderH 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On the left, the Agent draws his pistol.]]

=Rifles=
==M16A4 Rifle==
A United States Capitol Police CERT (Containment and Emergency Response Team) sniper in a helicopter is seen taking aim at Spider-Man with what appears to be a [[M16 rifle series#M16A4 Rifle|M16A4 rifle]] fitted with a scope.
[[File:BattleLA M16A4.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A4 (5.56x45mm) with ACOG scope, RIS foregrip, Magpul MBUS rear sight, and AN/PEQ-15 IR designator.]]
[[File:SpidermanHC-AR15-01.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The sniper takes aim with his M16A4.]]

{{Spider-man}}
{{Marvel Series}}
[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:MCU]]

Grand Theft Auto V

2017-09-05T10:28:37Z

Sandymon: /* M230 Chain Gun */

{{incomplete}}
{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Grand Theft Auto V
|picture = Gta v logo.jpg
|caption = ''Box Art''
|series= Grand Theft Auto
|date= September 17th, 2013 (PS3/360) November 18th, 2014 (PS4/XB1) April 14th 2015 (PC) 
|developer=Rockstar North
|platforms=PlayStation 3 PlayStation 4 Xbox 360 Xbox One PC
|publisher= 2K Games
|genre=Third-Person Shooter, First-Person Shooter (PS4/XONE/PC)
}}
'''''Grand Theft Auto V''''' (also known as ''GTA5'' or ''GTAV'') is the fifth installment of the ''Grand Theft Auto'' series being developed by Rockstar North, and published by Rockstar Games. The game was announced October 25, 2011 with its trailer debuting on November 2. The game was released for XBox 360 and PS3 on September 17th, 2013. It was re-released in enhanced form for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One on November 18th, 2014, with a Windows PC version released, after numerous delays, on April 18th 2015.

The game is set in an expanded version of ''GTA: San Andreas''' starting city of Los Santos, a fictionalised version of Los Angeles, and the surrounding countryside. The plot follows a trio of characters, who the player can select between; an ambitious young gang member named Franklin who falls in with retired bankrobber Michael, who is part of a government witness protection program following his last big job. When Michael returns to a life of crime, it attracts the attention of one of his former associates, a lunatic meth dealer named Trevor, and the secrets of Michael's last job threaten to cost him everything he has.

The game is also packaged with an online multiplayer component labelled '''''Grand Theft Auto Online''''', which is treated as a separate title by Rockstar but is in effect largely based on the main game and is not available for purchase separately. However, there are some differences between the two titles, and some weapons are available only in multiplayer, and vice versa.

'''The following weapons can be seen in the video game ''Grand Theft Auto V'' and are available in both 7th and 8th generation versions unless otherwise noted:'''
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=Overview=

''Grand Theft Auto V'' features a wheel-based inventory system where the player characters can carry every weapon in the game at the same time, with weapons subdivided into a series of slots: pistols, SMGs and machine guns, assault rifles, sniper rifles, melee weapons, shotguns, heavy weapons and throwing weapons. Each of the three playable characters in singleplayer has their own inventory.

Weapons can either be found in the game world, acquired during missions or purchased from the Ammu-Nation gun stores found throughout Los Santos. A purchased gun is unlocked permanently and in most cases can then be upgraded with custom parts which improve its handling or increase its capacity; suppressors can also be added to some weapons. Each weapon must have mods bought for it individually, they cannot be swapped between weapons.

In the original releases a series of DLC weapons were added in free updates following the game's release, eventually filling up an entire additional wall in Ammu-Nation. In the next-gen re-release and PC version, these weapons are instead staggered unlocks that are given out as the story progresses. DLC weapons tend to be ridiculous money sinks with incredibly expensive upgrades.

The next-gen re-release also adds the ability to switch to first-person mode for shooting, with new high-detail gun models and animations. In this mode, using the zoom function (R3 / press RS / mousewheel up) while aiming a weapon will use the weapon's iron sights, or the scope if a weapon has one. Sniper rifles, as usual for the series, always use their scope when aiming.

=Handguns=

=="AP Pistol"==

The "AP Pistol", though probably supposed to be some kind of [[TDI Kard]] knockoff, bears most resemblance to the Colt SCAMP, an obscure prototype burst-fire pistol, though it is depicted with a traditional pistol slide. It holds 18 rounds in its magazine (36 with the "Extended Clip" attachment). Assuming it is actually supposed to be a SCAMP, the weapon is normally incorrectly shown as fully automatic, but during the rappelling part in "Three's Company", it is for some reason shown in the correct 3-round burst mode. The lettering on the slide states it is chambered in 9x18mm.

[[Image:coltscamp.jpg|none|thumb|350px|Colt SCAMP - .22 SCAMP]]
[[Image:GTA5UNKNOWPIST.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Michael uses his "AP Pistol" to threaten an unfortunate Azerbaijani during the mission "Three's Company."]]
[[File:GTA5UNKNOWNPIST2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:gtavfibscamp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"AP" pistols in the hands of FIB agents Steve Haines and Andreas Sanchez.]]
[[File:GTAVteedeeayekurd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "platinum"-finished "AP pistol" pointed at the back of a garbage truck in GTA Online, which is really where it should belong.]]

==Colt Python==
A [[Colt Python]] can be seen on a billboard advertisement for the in-game film ''Die Already 4'', a parody of the ''[[Die Hard]]'' film series.

[[Image:ColtPython6In.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|none|Colt Python with 6" Barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[File:GTAV-Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

=="Combat Pistol"==

What appears to be a combination of the [[Heckler & Koch P2000]] and the [[Beretta Px4 Storm]] is available as the "Combat Pistol". It holds 12 rounds in its magazine (16 with the "Extended Clip" attachment). It is chambered in 9mm "ACB." It is used by Agency spooks first seen in Michael's mission "Dead Man Walking", and can be purchased for other characters afterwards at Ammu-Nation.

[[File:P2000-2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch P2000 - .40 S&W]]
[[File:Px4 Storm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta Px4 Storm - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:GTAV-CombatPistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael brandishes his "Combat Pistol" as he tries to sneak out of the first level of ''Max Payne 2''.]]
[[File:GTAVPX4ads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the "Combat Pistol."]]
[[File:Screenshot-Original (7).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Watching Mike reload it in traditional third person perspective.]]
[[File:GTAVPX4reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dry reloading in first person.]]

==Desert Eagle==

A poorly-modelled [[Desert Eagle#Desert Eagle Mark XIX|Desert Eagle]] is available as the "Pistol .50" as a special edition bonus weapon. It holds 9 bullets in the magazine, which should make it a .357 Magnum (.50AE Desert Eagles hold 7 rounds) but the next-gen model has a clear ".50AE" marking on the barrel. It incorrectly has an optional extended magazine of 12 rounds and is double action only.

The weapon model is quite frankly, a mess; it lacks the long beavertail of an actual Desert Eagle and has a trigger guard that bears more resemblance to the PT92, has oversized cocking serrations and a much too curved top to the rear section of the slide, chunky rear sights with a tiny front sight pin, and incorrectly has an underbarrel accessory rail. It also has no scope rail mounts, no barrel lock, no magazine release, and lacks the Desert Eagle's safety switch; the developers appear to have confused the slide release for the safety, and so the pin for the slide release is attached to nothing and the projecting part has been turned into a sliding selector, the mechanics of which are best not considered.

[[Image:DesertEagle50AE.jpg|thumb|350px|none|IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX with brushed chrome finish - .50 AE]]
[[Image:GTAV-Deagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Being a movie sort of guy, it's no surprise Michael likes his Desert Eagle to be gold-plated. Note the bizarre reworking of the slide release as a safety.]]
[[File:GTAVDeagleads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the Desert Eagle.]]
[[File:GTAVDeaglethirdperson.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael reloads his "Pistol .50" with a tactical light.]]
[[File:GTAVDeaglereload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin showing off his shiny Desert Eagle, and at least has a loaded magazine.]]

==Entreprise Arms Wide Body 1911==

A 1911 handgun styled after the Entreprise Arms Wide Body 1911 appears as the "Heavy Pistol." It was released for last-gen consoles with the "Business Update" DLC, while in the next-gen versions it is unlocked along with the "Combat Pistol" following the mission "Dead Man Walking." It has a miniature red dot sight modelled on the slide, which is purely cosmetic in the original third-person view, but is a fully functional sight in first-person mode in the next-gen versions. The weapon comes with an incorrect 18 round magazine and can be upgraded with a ridiculous 36 round extended magazine, as well as the usual pistol mods (suppressor and weapon light).

[[File:Entreprise Wide Body 1911.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Entreprise Arms Wide Body 1911 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:GTAV-1911-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael holds a gold-plated, fully-upgraded, not very-Wide Body 1911 as he watches a group of strange men collectively fail to use a firing range.]]
[[Image:GTAV-HeavyPistol-SpecialCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Later, Franklin holds the unupgraded version as he succumbs to the temptation to take revenge on Tonya for her unbelievably tedious towtruck missions.]]
[[Image:Gtavdirty1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor appears to have fished this "Heavy Pistol" out of the same lake that created the Star Model-P from [[Far Cry 2#Star Model-P|Far Cry 2]].]]
[[File:GTAV1911ads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming a platinum-finished "Heavy Pistol." Note the rear sight notch is integrated into the reflex sight.]]
[[File:GTAV19113rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A man [[Hitman|in a familiar suit]] reloads his mock-up Hardballer.]]
[[File:GTAV1911reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of reloading in first person view.]]

==Glock 23==

A [[Glock 23]] compact pistol is seen in the holster of the armoured truck guards, motorcycle cops, Los Santos Police Officers, IAA Agents, FIB Agents and Merriweather PMC troops, however they cannot be used and the guards will still attack the player using a Taurus PT92AF if they draw a pistol. It is assumed this is a Glock 23 because of the .40SW ammunition, which is used in the United States by almost all security services and because of the large rear sights.

[[Image:Glock23.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 23 (3rd Generation) - .40 S&W]]
[[Image:GTAV-Glock-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Merriweather PMC guards with holstered Glock 23s on their thighs and chest rigs proceed to have a merry old time beating up Cousin Floyd as Trevor uses this as a distraction.]]

==LeMat 1861==

The Patriot Beer logo, found on various products throughout the city, features a pair of old percussion [[LeMat Revolver|LeMat 1861]] revolvers.

[[Image:Lemat.jpg|thumb|none|400px|LeMat 1861 current reproduction (Cavalry version) - .36 / .44 and 20 gauge]]
[[Image:GTAV-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crates of suitably patriotic beer can be found in some Ammu-Nation stores. Unlike revolvers, which cannot- at least, not until the addition of the Heavy Revolver to the game.]]

==Orion Flare Gun==

The [[Orion Flare Gun]] was included in the Heists Update, although it was originally intended as part of "The San Andreas Flight School Update". Although it has the paint job of the 12 gauge variant, the weapon model matches more that of the 25mm version. It is remarkably useless in its intended role, providing little to no illumination and the flares do not hang in the air, falling back down almost immediately after launch. Instead, it is far more useful as a direct-fire weapon, being a short-range weapon capable of setting targets on fire and after the Smuggler's Run update to attract heat seeker missiles.

[[File:ORION 25mm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Orion flare gun - 25mm]]
[[File:Orion Flare gun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|12 gauge variant for comparison.]]
[[File:GTAVFlareGun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|In game model of the flare gun.]]
[[File:Gtavorion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Orion Flare gun in first person view.]]
[[File:Gtavorion1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gutter sights of the flare gun.]]
[[File:Gtavorion2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As usual for most video game flare guns, it is notoriously bad at actually providing any meaningful illumination at night. Altering the pistol's paint job also changes the flare's color, incidentally.]]
[[File:Gtavorion3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the Orion. The spent cartridge vanishes when the chamber is opened.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==

A [[SIG-Sauer P226]] is shown in the in-game TV show ''Underbelly of Paradise'' as a part of illegal weapon trafficking. It can be identified as such by the double stack bulge on the frame. It also appears to have been rendered without a hammer.

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Factory black (K-Kote) SIG-Sauer P226 pistol - 9x19mm. This is a real movie gun and has appeared in several motion pictures.]]
[[Image:Underbelly.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The P226.]]

=="SNS Pistol"==

The "SNS Pistol" is available with the "Beach Bum Pack DLC" and seems to be a [[Heckler & Koch P7]] with some design elements also similar to the [[Colt Junior]]. It holds 6 rounds in its magazine (12 with the "Extended Clip" attachment), but has no other accessories, rendering it rather a pointless weapon. The weapon's markings indicate that it is chambered in ".45 ACB". The name is a reference to the term "Saturday Night Special", a generic term for small, inexpensive pocket pistols.

[[File:Colt Junior.jpeg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Junior - .25 ACP]]
[[Image:P7M10H&K.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch P7M10 - .40 S&W]]
[[Image:SNS Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In game model of the "SNS" Pistol]]
[[Image:Gtavsns.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Saturday Night Special in hand, Michael finds that a would-be motorcycle thief made for a poor tire jack for his rental.]]
[[File:GTAVSNSads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mike threatens the life out of a life-preserver with his concealed pistol.]]
[[File:GTAVSNS3rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the "SNS Pistol."]]
[[File:GTAVSNSreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ditto, but from empty in first person view.]]

==Taurus PT92AF==

The "Pistol" is a [[Taurus PT92AF]]. It is the first pistol the player characters can get, and Michael and Trevor both have one in their starting inventory. It holds 12 rounds in its magazine (16 with the "Extended Clip" attachment), while its real counterpart holds 10, 15 or 17 (though the 12-round magazine would be correct for the compact variant, the PT92C). In-game it is incorrectly referred to as being .45 caliber instead of 9x19mm. However, in the mission "Complications", Michael correctly refers it to a 9mm, and the in-game lettering on the slide reads "9mm". In ''Grand Theft Auto Online'', players are automatically given one of these pistols at the start of every session.

[[File:PT92AFRail.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Taurus PT92AF - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GTAVPT92.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael makes a good first impression on Franklin with the help of his PT92AF.]]
[[File:GTAVPT92(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|During an important plot moment, Trevor pulls out a PT92AF.]]
[[File:GTAVPT92FPS1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PT92AF as seen in first-person view in the next-gen versions of ''GTAV''/''GTA Online''. Note the black finish, tritium iron sights, and "Hawk & Little" markings on the slide. ]]
[[File:GTAHandL9MM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A nice close up of the updated texture of the new "Pistol".]]

==CZ P-09==
The pistol is also one of the 6 guns can be upgraded to Mk2 status following the "Gunrunning" DLC, allowing it to access to more ammunition types: FMJ, incendiary, hollow point, armor piercing and explosive rounds. The pistol's appearance is modified, with lightning cuts in the slide, and it's triangular hammer, slide and rail resembling the [[CZ P-09]]. The extended magazine baseplate resembles a TTI Glock +4 aftermarket baseplate, while the finger grooves and grip shape resemble a Hogue [[Browning Hi-Power]] grip. the Mk2 variant does more damage, but retains the incorrect 12 round capacity; unless special ammunition is chosen, in which it holds an also incorrect 8 rounds, more than likely for balance reasons. The Mk2 pistol can be upgraded with a wide variety of accessories, including extended magazines, a compensator and a handgun scope. As well as a large variety of colors, camouflage patterns and tints.

[[File:CZP09.jpg|thumb|none|350px|CZ P-09-9x19mm ]]
[[File:GTAVPT92Custom.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A player wielding a customized MK2 pistol]]

==Taurus Raging Bull==

The "Executives and other Criminals" update for GTA Online finally brings a revolver to the game's arsenal of sidearms. It appears to be another frankengun, based on the [[Taurus Raging Bull]]'s barrel mated to the frame of an ASG Dan Wesson CO2 revolver as evident by the straighter grip which also lacks the distinctive red Raging Bull backstrap, and is referred to as "Heavy Revolver". For whatever reason, the weapon is treated as a single action and is always cocked after each shot, in an arduously slow process. Given its six shot capacity, it is likely chambered in .44 Magnum.

[[File:Pistol Brazilian Taurus Raging Bull .44 magnum ported revolver.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Taurus Raging Bull - .44 Magnum]]
[[File:Danwessonasg.jpg|thumb|none|350px|ASG Dan Wesson 8 inch Co2 Revolver]]
[[File:Gtavtaurus.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An online VIP gets his photo taken by an overly eager NPC on the Chumash pier.]]
[[File:GTAVTaurusADS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the Raging Bull in first person view, as with a few other weapons, the front sight is too high.]]
[[File:GTAVTaurus2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rockstar North doesn't quite seem to understand how revolvers work. The hammer goes all the way back after firing, and then the player decocks the hammer, which apparently advances the cylinder.]]
[[File:GTAVTaurus3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the Raging Bull, which involves cowboy-slinging the cylinder shut to the bereavement of revolver fans everywhere.]]

==Thompson Center Arms Contender==

The [[Thompson Center Arms Contender]] appears in the game as the "Marksman Pistol", and is added with the "Ill-Gotten Gains Part 2" DLC. It is a single shot pistol and has no other accessories. It also deals the highest damage of all the other weapons, including the "Heavy Sniper Rifle".

[[File:ThompsonCenterContender.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Thompson Center Arms Contender - .45-70]]
[[File:gtavcenter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor holds the Contender after stalking the wrong kind of emu.]]
[[File:gtavcenter-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ironsight view. It's curious that the passengers on board didn't use the marked "Emergency Exit" hatch....]]
[[File:gtavcenter-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having finished his business, Trevor reloads the single shot handgun. No spent cartridge is shown to be ejected.]]

==Unknown Glock Variant==

A [[Glock pistol series|Glock]] pistol of unknown model is shown beside the P226 on the in-game TV show ''Underbelly of Paradise'' as a part of illegal weapon trafficking.

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|350px|3rd Generation Glock 17 - 9x19mm. Note the finger grooves, thumb reliefs, and accessory rail on the frame, which differentiate it from the older model.]]
[[Image:Underbelly.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Glock on the far right.]]

=="Vintage Pistol"==

The "Vintage Pistol" is available with the "I'm Not a Hipster" DLC. It seems to be loosely based on the [[FN Model 1922]] and [[FN Model 1903]] pistols (the "9mm" in-game marking on the ejection port would match the latter); but strangely, it has a [[Glock]]-style back of the slide. It holds 7 rounds (14 with the "Extended Clip" attachment). The weapon can also be fitted with a suppressor.

[[File:Browning 1922.jpg|thumb|none|350px|FN Model 1922 - .32 ACP]]
[[File:FN Model 1903 Right Side.jpg|thumb|none|350px|FN Model 1903 - 9x20mm Browning Long]]
[[File:I'm Not a Hipster DLC GTA V.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The "Vintage Pistol" in the official image of the DLC. Note that the gun looks like a typical [[M1911]]-style pistol, that has virtually nothing to do with the actual "Vintage Pistol", which will appear in the game.]]
[[File:gtavfn1922-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Vintage Pistol" in first person. It appears to be striker fired.]]
[[File:gtavfn1922.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the Glock-style slide, which obviously has no relation to the "Vintage".]]
[[File:gtavfn1922-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Vintage Pistol", in third person.]]

==Walther PPK==

While playing ''Righteous Slaughter 7'', an in-game FPS video game, in his bedroom, Jimmy's game character can be seen using a stainless steel [[Walther PPK]] in tandem with a syringe similar to the USP45/tactical knife combo in ''[[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]''.

[[Image:Waltherppk32acp.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Walther PPK - 7.65 mm Browning aka .32 ACP]]
[[File:GTAVDesertEagle.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The PPK in the lower right corner.]]

=Shotguns=
==Armsel Protecta==
The [[Armsel Protecta]] with a 7" barrel appears as the "Sweeper Shotgun" (thus named similarly to the Cobray Street Sweeper variant); it was added with the "Bikers" DLC. It incorrectly operates in semi-automatic mode; the real Protecta is manual rotation-only, unlike other Armsel Striker variants that are semi-auto. It has a 10-round magazine capacity, in contrast the usual 12-round magazine of the real weapon. Some civilian models in reality do actually have a capacity of 10 rounds as a result of two chambers being blocked, but they also have a minimum legal barrel length not abided by in-game, so one restriction without the other would be weird. It is the first semi-auto shotgun that can be used on bikes. The shotgun in game also lacks a foregrip, giving it a similar appearance to a shortened Cobray Lady's Home Companion.

Interestingly, the HUD icon shows an Armsel Striker instead, evidenced by the presence of a winding key in front of the drum.
[[File:Armsel Protecta 7 inch.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Armsel Protecta with 7" barrel - 12 gauge]]
[[File:GTAVProtecta.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Armsel Protecta in first person view.]]
[[File:GTAVProtectaads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|View down the iron sights and folded stock.]]
[[File:GTAVProtectareload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading is done by inserting a single shell through a loading port added on the left side of the cylinder...]]
[[File:GTAVProtectacharging.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...followed by a tug of the manual ejection rod that is acting as a charging handle.]]
[[File:GTAVProtectafiring.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Firing the "Sweeper."]]
[[File:GTAVProtecta3rdreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading another shell.]]

=="Assault Shotgun"==
The "Assault Shotgun" is largely based on the [[UTAS UTS-15]] with the addition of a box magazine and some other modifications such as a longer stock and relocating the barrel to the position the magazine tubes normally occupy. The original UTS-15 has a manual pump-action; however the "Assault Shotgun" seems to think it is an [[AA-12]] and is fully automatic, with 8 and 32-round capacities like the latter shotgun as well.

[[File:UTAS UTS-15.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Gen 1 UTAS UTS-15 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:GTAV-UTAS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael holds a suppressed mutant UTAS-15 as he ensures IMFDB gets his good side. The loading port of the UTS-15 operates as the ejection port of the "Assault Shotgun." However, as the gun is fitted with a box magazine located significantly ahead of the ejection port, this arrangement makes little mechanical sense.]]
[[File:GTA 5 Assault Shotgun005.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Franklin reaches over the shotgun to work the charging handle, which has been added to both sides of the receiver.]]
[[File:GTAVUTSads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|ADS view of the rather odd set of iron sights. In the old release they appeared to be the same Daniel Defense fixed iron sights that the "Carbine Rifle" had.]]
[[File:GTAVUTSreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|First person reload animation. Note the unused left side charging handle.]]
[[File:GTAVUTScharging.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chambering a 12 gauge shell.]]
[[File:GTAVUTS3rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Third person view shows off a loaded magazine, thankfully.]]

==Kel-Tec KSG==
The [[Kel-Tec KSG]], called the "Bullpup Shotgun", was a bonus weapon available in the Special Edition of the original release; it is included with every copy of the next-gen versions. It comes with a 14-shell capacity, and like all games that feature the KSG, its 2 magazine tubes are depicted, mechanically, as a single long tube. Like the other pump-action shotguns, it is reloaded with just one shell.

[[Image:Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun Oleg Volk 1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Kel-Tec KSG - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Gtavkel.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael holds a suppressed Kel-Tec KSG following a random trip to the wetlands he would rather forget about.]]
[[File:GTAVKSG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|KSG in first person.]]
[[File:GTAVKSGads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the KSG, which has identical sights to the AR15 carbine. In the previous-gen release, it had no sights.]]
[[File:GTAVKSGreloading.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Loading in the magical shotgun shell.]]
[[File:GTAVKSGpump.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pumping the Kel-Tec.]]
[[File:GTAVKSG3rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The third person animation differs a bit by having the character hold the KSG straight down.]]

==Mossberg 500==

The "Sawed-Off Shotgun" in the game is a truncated Compact Cruiser-style [[Mossberg 500]]. It comes with an 8-shell capacity (while a shotgun this size would only be able to hold somewhere between 2 and 4), and like with the larger Mossberg the reloading animation shows only one shell being inserted. It is uniquely capable of being used on motorcycles, buses and boats as a driveby weapon. In ''GTA Online'' component, this weapon replaces the "Assault SMG" as the free weapon for Rockstar Social Club members, with the Assault SMG being a rank-based unlockable for all players.

[[Image:Mossberg500short.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser modified - 12 gauge]]
[[File:GTAVSerbuSuperShorty.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Trevor with a stumpy Mossberg 500 as first responders arrive at the bank.]]
[[File:GTAVM500.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holding the shorty Mossberg 500 over a reservoir in the Vinewood Hills.]]
[[File:GTAVM500ads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sight view.]]
[[File:GTAVM500pump.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ejecting a fired shell.]]
[[File:GTAVM5003rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ditto, from third person.]]
[[File:GTAVM500reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the "Sawed-Off Shotgun."]]

==Mossberg 590 ==

The "Pump Shotgun" in the game resembles a slightly shortened [[Mossberg 590]] (somewhere between standard and Cruiser length) with an oversized forend, a heat shield and a Magpul CTR stock; it comes with an 8-shell magazine capacity. The reloading animation depicts only one shell being inserted, regardless the number of shells needed. It is the standard shotgun of the LSPD and the LS County Sheriff's Department.

[[Image:Moss590M4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 590 with heat shield, bayonet lug, and M4-type stock - 12 gauge]]
[[File:gtavm590hiest.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Los Santos County deputy sheriff with a Mossberg 590 during the Paleto Bay heist.]]
[[File:GTAVM590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M590 in first person view.]]
[[File:gtavm590iron.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of a Mossberg equipped with the "Platinum" finish akin the real world Mariner model.]]
[[File:GTAVM590reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Loading in the 12 gauge shell.]]

==Saiga 12K==
The [[Saiga 12K]] appears with an ACE folding stock and a rail (which has some similarity with Chaos quad rails) as the "Heavy Shotgun", added with the "Last Team Standing Update" DLC. It is semi-automatic and holds 6 slug shells in its magazine (12 with the "Extended Clip" attachment) and can also be fitted with a flashlight, a suppressor and an angled Magpul AFG2 foregrip.

The GTA Online: Further Adventures in Finance and Felony update added a drum magazine attachment to some weapons, including the Saiga 12K, which gains a capacity of 30 shells with it.

[[Image:Saiga 12k-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Saiga 12K - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Saiga 12K Drum.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Custom Saiga 12K with short barrel and 20-round "Wraithmaker" drum magazine - 12 gauge]]
[[File:gtavs12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Saiga 12 in FPS view.]]
[[File:gtavs12-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights, pointed at the "Annihilator" helicopter that returned from the previous game.]]
[[File:gtavs12-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Swapping magazine after letting loose some "12 guage" slugs at nothing in particular.]]
[[File:gtavs12-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Third person view shows off the extended magazine, AFG, and flashlight.]]

==Sawed-Off Double Barrel Shotgun==
A [[Sawed-Off Double Barrel Shotgun]] appears in the "Lowriders: Custom Classics" DLC. The two barrels are fired per shot, but rather than firing both barrels at once as is the norm for double-barrels in video games, it more sensibly (and less wrist-destroyingly) fires one barrel at a time.
[[Image:SBS-Shotgun ManOnFire.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Zabala short barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[File:GTAVsawnoff.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The double-barreled shotgun in a tight corridor.]]
[[File:GTAVsawnoffads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Aiming" the sawed-off.]]
[[File:GTAVsawnoff3rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Preparing to open up the barrels.]]
[[File:GTAVsawnoffreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Loading in the shell duo, note the smoke effects. The opening lever doesn't move unfortunately.]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==

A [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with an odd angular receiver seemingly based on the [[SIG SG 540#Taurus MT-40|Taurus MT-40]] from ''[[Max Payne 3]]'' appears as the "SMG". It holds 30 rounds in a 15-round magazine, and 60 in the 30-rounder. While it is probably supposed to use an HK slap-style reload, in the next-gen first-person view the player character is actually shown slamming the side of their fist against the charging handle, which would be unlikely to do much other than break the gun and hurt their fist as it slams against the handle.

The MP5A3 can be equipped with a 100-round drum magazine after the GTA Online: Further Adventures in Finance and Felony update. However, it has the appearance of a single drum; a dual drum Beta C-Mag would be more appropriate. After the Gunrunning update, it can be upgraded to Mk II, making it into an MP5K look-a-like.

[[Image:MP5A3RIS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with Navy trigger group, railed handguard, RIS foregrip, and M68 Aimpoint red dot scope - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Taurus MT-40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Taurus MT-40 - .40 S&W]]
[[Image:gtasmg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The MP5 being fired by a male character in multiplayer.]]
[[File:GTAVMP5FPS1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin reloading his MP5 in first-person view.]]
[[File:GTAVMP5FPS2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Aiming down the sights of the MP5 in first-person view. The iron sights seem to be based on the [[CZ Scorpion Evo 3]]. Note the gun is ejecting crimp-nosed blanks, though unusually their primers have been struck.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K==

Upgrading the MP5A3 to the Mk2 variant transforms it into a [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]],albeit without a foregrip. The front end and magazine resemble those of a SIG MPX-K. Due to it's stockless nature, it can be fired off motorcycles and boats, the Mk2 features slightly a higher damage output and rate of fire, and also possesses far more customization options like a C-More red-dot sight, tints, colors, camouflages, alongside various muzzle brakes and barrels.

[[File:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP5K with a SEF trigger group - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GTAVMP5K.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A player with his customized MP5k ]]
[[File:GTAVMP5KFPV.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the MP5K with an HK slap, however nonexistent the locked position may be]]

==IMI Mini Uzi==

A .45 ACP [[Mini Uzi]] is available as the "Micro SMG", and is one of the non-pistol firearms that can be used while driving. It defaults to a 16 round magazine more normally used on the full-sized Uzi (the Mini Uzi usually being sold with a 12-rounder) and can be upgraded to incorrectly use a 30-round 9mm magazine (the .45 ACP magazine of that size only has a capacity of 22 rounds). The beta version had an incorrectly slanted magazine, but this has been corrected in the final game. When the Scope attachment is added, the character unfolds the stock and properly shoulders the weapon, otherwise, the stock is folded and the weapon is fired from the hip. It is chambered in the oddly named ".45 ACB" and its charging handle is erroneously displayed as being reciprocant instead of fixed while the gun is discharged.

[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GTAVRugerMP9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Trevor with a Mini Uzi in the beta version.]]
[[File:GTAVMINIUZIFPS1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael firing a Mini Uzi equipped with an AimPoint Micro T1 in first-person view while driving a car. The weapon's markings indicate that it is chambered in ".45 ACB." Oddly, while driving cars the suppressor will disappear off any weapon fitted with one, though this does not happen while using a motorcycle. The goal of this seems to be in the interests of preventing the suppressor from clipping through the windshield.]]
[[File:GTAVMiniuzi.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mini Uzi in game.]]
[[File:GTAVMiniuziads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming down the rather obtrusive iron sights.]]
[[File:GTAVMiniuzifiring.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Letting out some lead; the charging handle is clipping with the scope rail.]]
[[File:GTAVMiniuzireloading.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Changing magazines.]]
[[File:GTAVMiniuzireloading2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Racking back the charging handle. As with a lot of other weapons, the "Micro SMG" incorrectly fires from a closed bolt.]]
[[File:GTAVMiniuzi3rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again in third person. Note that the stock is folded again in this perspective.]]

==Intratec TEC-DC9==

The [[Intratec TEC-DC9]] appears as the "Machine Pistol" and is added with the "GTA Online: Lowriders" DLC. It holds 12 rounds in its magazine (20 with the "Extended Clip" attachment.)

It can be equipped with a drum magazine after the GTA Online: Further Adventures in Finance and Felony update. However, this one has a capacity of merely 30 rounds, which in reality could simply be achievable with a 32-round standard box magazine; real drum magazines for the TEC-9 have a capacity of 72 rounds.

[[image:Tec-DC9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Intratec TEC-DC9 - California Legal variant built after 1990 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GTAVTEC9-1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Notice "Vom Feuer" on the receiver.]]
[[File:Gtavtec9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Multiplayer shenanigans result in this abomination. Note the "extended clip..."]]
[[File:Gtavtec9-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|TEC-DC9 in first person, idle.]]
[[File:GTAVTec9ads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the TEC-DC9, the misalignment is actually just from weapon sway and not an error. Note the TEC-DC9 rear-mounted sling mount, and depressed charging handle that means the safety is on.]]
[[File:GTAVTec9reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading a 9mm drum magazine.]]

==MP40==

In the cartoon ''Gordon Moorehead Rides Again'', the titular detective encounters an inexplicable Nazi security guard outside Vinewood Studios, brandishing an [[MP40]].

[[Image:MP40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:GTAV-MP40-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While advertising cigarettes and fighting the Red Menace, Gordon encounters this not-at-all-suspicious character.]]

==Sa. Vz. 82 Skorpion==
The [[Sa. Vz. 82 Skorpion]] appears in the Bikers DLC as the "Mini SMG". It uses straight magazines, and the weapon's markings indicate that it is chambered in 9mm, both of which are characteristics of the Vz. 82 model. However, the way the magazine is fitted diagonally matches more the Vz. 61 variant. It reuses the TEC-DC9's reload animation; if the weapon is emptied and reloaded, the charging handle is not pulled to chamber a new round.
[[Image:Scorpion SA Vz 82.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SA Vz. 82 Skorpion with spare magazines - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:Skorpion-SA-VZ-61.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SA Vz. 61 Skorpion with 10 round magazine - .32 ACP]]
[[File:GTAVSkorpion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Vz. 82 in idle.]]
[[File:GTAVSkorpionaiming.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[GoldenEye 007#Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion|"It's Klobberin' time!"]]]]
[[File:GTAVSkorpionads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the Skorpion.]]
[[File:GTAVSkorpionreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading, the pistol grip has the same wonky angles as the TEC-DC9.]]
[[File:GTAVSkorpion3rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Skorpion in third person, note the oversized charging handle.]]

==SIG-Sauer MPX==

The [[SIG-Sauer MPX]] is available with the "Ill-Gotten Gains Part 1" DLC update as the "Combat PDW". Its length matches more the MPX-SD variant, and the weapon is actually integrally suppressed in-game, although it is modeled as if the handguard covers the entirety of the silencer.

It can be equipped with a 100-round drum magazine after the GTA Online: Further Adventures in Finance and Felony update, despite the model resembling the Magpul D60 drum magazine for AR-15 weapons. The real MPX cannot have a capacity of more than 50 rounds (X Products drum magazine) anyway.

[[File:SIG MPX.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer MPX - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SIG MPX-SD.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer MPX-SD - 9x19mm, for comparison]]
[[File:GTAVCombatPDW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A character with the "Combat PDW".]]
[[File:GTAVMPXSDtrevor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor models the SIG MPX-SD outside his favorite gun shop.]]
[[File:GTAVMPXSDads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the MPX, which is rather difficult to do without a rear sight, although the Aimpoint M2 can be used as an upgrade. Also note the alternate HK G3 style charging handle, which was likely done so the weapon could reuse animations from the regular SMG.]]

==Thompson M1928A1==
This gun is available with the Valentine's Day Massacre Special DLC as the "Gusenberg Sweeper". It seems to be a [[Thompson M1928A1]] with a drum magazine that incorrectly holds 30 rounds. The "Extended Clip" attachment ups the ammo count to the correct 50 rounds. It shares an ammo pool and aiming reticle with the belt-fed machine guns instead of the sub-machine guns.

The game incorrectly displays the gun's action as being closed-bolt instead of an open-bolt action.

[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|M1928A1 Thompson with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[File:GTA V - Valentine's Day DLC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The "Gusenberg Sweeper" in the official image of the DLC.]]
[[File:gtavthompson.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Sweeper at nighttime.]]
[[File:GTAVThompsonads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sight view of the Tommy Gun.]]
[[File:GTAVThompsonreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grabbing the drum.]]
[[File:GTAVThompsonreload2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chambering a round. As with a few other games, the bolt should be pulled back first in order to remove the drum magazine.]]

=Assault Rifles & Carbines=
==AKMSU==
The [[AKMSU]] appears as the "Compact Rifle" in the "Lowriders: Custom Classics" DLC. It can be equipped with a 100-round drum magazine after the GTA Online: Further Adventures in Finance and Felony update.

[[File:AKMSU Stock Removed.jpg|thumb|none|375px|AKMSU with stock removed - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:GTAVAKMSU.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AKMSU FPS view.]]
[[File:GTAVAKMSUads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the compact AK. The RIS rail (based on the Midwestern Industries railed AK scope mount) serves as a rear sight; there is no scope upgrade for the "Compact Rifle" though.]]
[[File:GTAVAKMSU3rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inserting a bakelite magazine.]]
[[File:GTAVAKMSUreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chambering a round.]]

=="Assault SMG"==
This fictional assault rifle (classified in-game as an SMG) described as firing the also fictional 6x30mm cartridge is a bonus unlock for players who join the Rockstar Social Club; it bears a resemblance to several real guns, particularly the [[Magpul PDR#Magpul PDR-C|Magpul PDR-C]] and [[FN P90#P90 TR|FN P90 TR]]. It can be fitted with a 30 or 60 round magazine. In ''GTA Online'', this weapon is a rank-based unlock for all players, with the Sawed-Off Shotgun replacing it as the free weapon for Social Club members.

[[File:MagpulPDR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Magpul PDR-C with 20-round Magpul PMag and red dot sight - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:FN P90 Triple Rail (TR).jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 TR - 5.7x28mm]]
[[File:SC SMG.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Franklin holds the "Assault SMG" as he hopes his disguise will protect him from pointless smartphone apps.]]
[[File:GTAVPDRads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Out in the wilderness, Trevor aims his frankenPDW as far away from society as possible.]]
[[File:GTAVPDRreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inserting a new magazine. The pistol grip actually looks very much like that of an Arctic Warfare stock.]]
[[File:GTAVPDRreload2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pulling the left side charging handle, presumably this animation is reused from the Type 56-1.]]

=="Bullpup Rifle"==
The "Bullpup Rifle" is a fictional carbine consisting of the rear of a [[Norinco Type 86S]], [[Norinco QB rifle series#QBZ 95-1|QBZ-95-1]] midsection and lower handguard, Norinco QBZ-95 selector switch and LAPA FA03 for the front part and cooling vents. It is added with the "High Life Update" as a part of the ''GTA Online'' "Spring Update". In-game it is said to be a Chinese import. Its front sight is recycled from the GTA IV Carbine Rifle, and the weapon uses the same magazine models from the Type 56, as does the real world Type 86S.
[[File:Norinco QBZ95-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco QBZ-95-1 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[Image:Type86s.jpg|none|thumb|400px|Norinco Type 86S - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:GTA Online Spring Update.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An official image of the DLC.]]
[[File:gtavqbz.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A long overdue capture of the hybrid Norinco rifle out in the wild, with a few modifications.]]
[[File:gtavqbz-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading, this time closer to civilization.]]
[[File:GTAVQBZads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the Chinese rifle.]]
[[File:GTAVQBZreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pulling the charging handle.]]

==Custom AR-15 Carbine==
The "Carbine Rifle" is a [[M16 rifle series|custom AR-15 carbine]] consisting of an ACE skeleton stock incorrectly portrayed as collapsible, Northtech Billet lower receiver with an ergonomic pistol grip, VLTOR upper receiver, a handguard resembling the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0, and a 10.5" barrel with an AAC Blackout flash hider. Its sights are a rear folding backup sight probably based on the MBUS and a Troy folding front battle sight. It can be fitted with an ELCAN SpecterDR scope, which is incorrectly depicted as a simple red dot sight, flashlight, 30 or 60 round magazine, a Magpul AFG2 foregrip, and a sound suppressor. Due to the silver color of the bolt carrier group and the very flat shape, it is probably rendered with an airsoft gun rather than a real AR-15.

The extended magazine seems to be based on a 40 round one; it is only slightly longer than a 30-rounder, and is still a double-stack configuration. For a magazine of the length shown to hold sixty rounds, it would have to be a much thicker quad stack casket-type magazine.

The GTA Online: Further Adventures in Finance and Felony update gives it the ability to equip a box of 100 rounds, oddly having the appearance of an LMG-style belt box, whereas a 100-round Beta C-Mag would have been much more appropriate.

The Gunrunning update also allows the AR-15 to be upgraded to Mk2 status, which makes it look like a Salient Arms International Tier One AR-15 or a Taran Tactical Ultralight, alongside possessing a Magpul UBR stock. Like other Mk2 weapons, it is highly customization with many scope, camouflage/tint, and barrel options. Interestingly the extended magazine option actually displays a correct quad-stack magazine and has the correct capacity of 60 rounds. It can also be swapped to use different ammunition types, such as FMJ and Armor Piercing,with a lower capacity. The suppressor is no longer covered by the handguard and is mounted to the muzzle, similar to the in game CTAR-21.

[[Image:Gtavcarbinerifle2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|During the prologue mission's bank heist, Michael lays down his "Carbine Rifle" as he loads up a bag with cash.]]
[[Image:GTAV-Carbine-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the gang make their escape, Trevor fires on pursuing police cars with his carbine.]]
[[File:GTAV AR15.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Trevor holds a fully upgraded carbine, with an ELCAN SpecterDR scope, Magpul AFG2, extended magazine, and sound suppressor. Note that the folding front sight is not folded down on the in-world model when the ELCAN is mounted.]]
[[Image:Gtavcarbinerifle.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Reloading the carbine in third person. Unlike previous games, the player character actually drops the magazine, pulls back on the charging handle, and (at least in this case) ejects a round when reloading mid-mag.]]
[[File:GTAVAR15FPS1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Franklin uses an equally kitted-out carbine in first person; note that on the first-person model, the front sight is shown folded down when the ELCAN scope is fitted.]]
[[Image:GTAV-Carbine-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor reloads his carbine rifle during the prologue; note the fire selector is actually in the correct position. For some reason, the first-person model's charging handle is always shown pulled back slightly; this does not happen on the in-world model.]]
[[File:GTAVAR15boxmag.jpg|thumb|none|600px|View of the strange 100 IAR box magazine.]]
[[File:GTAVCarbRifleMK2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A player with a decked out MK2 Carbine, note the casket magazine]]

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
The [[Heckler & Koch G36C]], called the "Special Carbine" in-game, is part of the Business Update DLC. It incorrectly has a 6 vent-holes on the short C handguard, and utilizes straight metal magazines similar to the [[Galil 7.62 ARM]]. It also has a custom charging handle that juts out on both sides of the weapon, rather than a flush charging handle. The next-gen version is also shown with ejection ports on both sides of the weapon.

The G36C can be equipped with a 100-round Beta C-Mag after the GTA Online: Further Adventures in Finance and Felony update.

[[File:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:GTAV-G36-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin takes a moment out from a drive in the country to show off his trigger discipline.]]
[[File:GTAVG36FPS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The G36C in first-person view on next-gen gaming systems. This G36C mounts an ELCAN SpecterDR scope, Magpul AFG, and suppressor.]]
[[File:GTAVG36ads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the G36.]]
[[File:GTAVG36reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael preparing to give the charging handle a tug. Note an empty casing is ejecting too early for some reason.]]
[[File:GTAVG363rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ditto, however the casing is better timed in third person. A spent magazine is on the ground under the pistol grip as well.]]
[[File:GTAVG36cmag.jpg|thumb|none|600px|View of the Beta C-Mag.]]

==IMI Compact Tavor CTAR-21==
The "Advanced Rifle" appears to be a [[IMI Compact Tavor CTAR-21]] with a raised scope mount. It has an open pistol grip with a traditional trigger guard (similarly to the MTAR-21) instead of the real CTAR-21's closed handguard. A screenshot previously released by Game Informer showed a more correctly modeled CTAR-21 with a green finish. It can be fitted with a red dot sight based on an Aimpoint M2 with the M4S battery storage location, flashlight, suppressor, and a 30 or 60 round (based on a 40 round) magazine.

[[File:IMI CTAR-21 Tavor.jpg|thumb|400px|none|IMI Compact Tavor CTAR-21 with ITL MARS red dot sight - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:GTAVPossibleAUG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael with a correctly modeled CTAR-21 from an early pre-release screenshot.]]
[[File:GTA5G11.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Michael firing a CTAR-21. Note the RIS rail instead of the scope. There is a rear sight attached, but no front sight, which would make aiming difficult.]]
[[File:Three'sCompanyGameplay PS4 Screenshot.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A shot during the same mission on the Enhanced Version. Note the weapon model now has a front sight.]]
[[File:GTAVTavor.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A scoped Tavor, as seen from Trevor's point of view during the ''Three's Company'' mission.]]
[[File:GTA5-Tavor-Helicopter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closer shot of the CTAR-21, showing that the D-guard is no longer present. The old generation model also has no front sight.]]
[[File:GTAVTar21sights.jpg|thumb|none|600px|ADS of the CTAR-21.]]
[[File:GTAVTar213rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Third person perspective of the reload animation.]]
[[File:GTAVTar21reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chambering a round in first person.]]

==Norinco Type 56==

Boxes of 7.62mm ammunition inside Ammu-Nation stores show an import [[Norinco Type 56]] with a fixed stock.

[[Image:Type56Standard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56 (imported into the U.S. as the Norinco AKS-47 or AKS-47 Sporter) - 7.62x39mm. Rather than having the underfolder pig sticker bayonet assembly, this has the standard bayonet lug underneath the gas block as the AKM and later variants]]
[[Image:GTAV-Ammobox-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After firing his new weapon too close to Ammu-Nation and causing the owner to shoot at him (and the NPCs on the firing range to respond by executing the owner), Michael takes a look at the mechandise. Note the fixed-stock Type 56 on the 7.62mm ammo boxes.]]

==Norinco Type 56-2==

The "Assault Rifle" is a [[Norinco Type 56-2]] with an aftermarket TAPCO Intrafuse handguard and ergonomic pistol grip. It can be fitted with a red dot sight (which resembles an Aimpoint Micro T1), Magpul AFG2, flashlight, suppressor (based on the PBS-1 suppressor of the [[AKS-74U]]), and a 30 or 60 round magazine (the latter being modeled after a 40-round mag).

It is the standard low-rank assault rifle and is frequently seen in the hands of gang members in later missions; more oddly, it is also seen in the hands of Merriweather PMC operators and US Army and Marine Corps troops at Fort Zancudo, though in the latter case the gate guards at least use the fictional AR-15 carbine rifle.

The Type 56-2 can be equipped with a 100-round drum magazine after the GTA Online: Further Adventures in Finance and Felony update. It can be upgraded to Mk2 status after the Gunrunning update, which substitutes the folding stock with a sliding stock and increases the weapon's damage. Ammunition types can be swapped similar to the Carbine Rifle Mk2. It is heavily customizable, possessing the same level of customization as the Carbine Rifle with muzzles, camouflages and tints.

[[Image:Type56-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56-2 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:GTAV-Type56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Fearing the sight of Michael's Type 56-2, Los Santos' finest attempt a rather unorthodox escape.]]
[[Image:GTAV-Type56-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Beta Norinco Type 56-2 with sound suppressors. Note Michael in the back, displaying excellent trigger discipline.]]
[[Image:Gtavgun5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lamar hiding behind a car during a street gang fight with a Type 56-2, identifiable by the full ring front sight.]]
[[Image:Gtavgun10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor used his Type 56-2 while riding on the wing of a plane. In this section, the gun has unlimited ammunition and does not need to reload.]]
[[File:GTAVType56ads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As a few games tend to do, the iron sights on the Norinco Type 56 are a little misaligned.]]
[[File:GTAVType563rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor inserting a fresh drum magazine, with a few more spent drums on the ground.]]
[[File:GTAVType56reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Charging the bolt.]]
[[Image:GTA 5 ak art.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Concept art showing rifles. This image appears in the game as a loading screen.]]
[[File:GTAVMk2AK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A player with his customized MK2 Type 56.]]
[[File:GTAVMk2AKFPV.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Same weapon, first person view.]]

==Robinson Armament XCR==
When playing ''Righteous Slaughter 7'' in his bedroom, Jimmy's game character can be seen using a [[Robinson Armament XCR]] in the CQB configuration. This weapon is not available in the game for player use.

[[Image:XCR CQB.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Robinson Armament XCR-L CQB with EOTech red dot sight, polymer magazine, and RIS foregrip - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:GTAVXCR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jimmy's player character in Righteous Slaughter 7 loads his XCR at the start of the game.]]

=Sniper Rifles=
==Accuracy International AW-F==
An [[Accuracy International AW|Accuracy International AW-F]] is the standard sniper rifle in the game, with a 10-round magazine, though the ingame magazine juts out further from the weapon, and should logically hold closer to 20 rounds due to its size. At the start of the mission "Nervous Ron", Trevor intimidates the clerk at his local AmmuNation into giving him this rifle as well as a high-powered scope and suppressor for free. Oddly, when doing missions for Cleetus the weapon is automatically reverted to the standard scope and paint scheme.

[[File:Arctic Warfare Folding Stock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Accuracy International AW-F - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GTAVAccuracyInternationalAW.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Dave Norton readies his AW-F during the Prologue.]]
[[Image:GTAV-AW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael holds an AW-F as he ignores Trevor's unsuccessful attempts to disguise himself as a human being.]]
[[Image:GTAV-AW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Out hunting with Cleetus, Trevor reloads his AW-F. Note the smaller default scope.]]
[[Image:GTAV-AW-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AW-F partway through a first-person reload. Since the weapon does not have to be unscoped to do this, it is entirely possible to go the whole game without ever seeing this animation.]]

==Barrett M107==
A [[Barrett M107]] incorrectly shown with a raised full length scope rail like an M82A3 (but styled after the short raised rail of the A1) is available as the "Heavy Sniper." It incorrectly holds 6 rounds per magazine instead of 10, and the magazine itself is wrongly shown being inserted straight rather than rocked into the magazine well. When aiming down the scope, probably due to an oversight, the sound of a bolt operation can be heard after each shot, despite the weapon being semi-automatic; however, it isn't heard when firing without aiming. The M107 is also used on an electronic rig in the back of a van to shoot down Javier Madrazo's commercial jet in the mission ''Caida Libre''.

the Barrett can be upgraded Mk II status in multiplayer in the "Gunrunning" update, which now takes design ques from the [[Serbu BFG-50A|Serbu BFG-50A]], including it's stock, vented handguard, charging handle and muzzle brake. The Mk2 Barrett not only increases the damage, but also allows the use of a suppressor, an (also incorrect) 8 round magazine, explosive rounds, alongside night vision and thermal optics.

[[Image:Berrett M107.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Barrett M107 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:GTAV-Barrett-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the mission "Three's Company", a dramatic closeup shows Franklin attempting to aim the Barrett using his mind.]]
[[Image:GTA5-Buzzard-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During a hunting side mission, Trevor carries a Barrett M107 as he encounters the wrong kind of Buzzard.]]
[[Image:gtavm82van.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the Barrett mounted in the back of the van in ''Caida Libre.'' Note the magwell and raised top rail bear some resemblance to the first generation AS50.]]
[[Image:gtavm82remote.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The high tech ballistics targeting system is used against an unsuspecting airplane. In normal gameplay, the weapon actually fires hitscans.]]
[[File:Gtavm82hipfire.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Barrett, as aimed from the hip.]]
[[File:GTAVM82reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the M107 in first person.]]
[[File:GTAVM82reload2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chambering a new round.]]
[[File:GTAVBarrettMk2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A player skulking around with his M107, Mk2 Edition.]]

==Ruger Mini-30==
The [[Ruger Mini-30]] appears as the "Marksman Rifle", added with the "Last Team Standing Update" DLC. It has an ACE Skeleton stock (incorrectly shown as collapsible, as on the Carbine Rifle), and feeds from curved box magazines similar to those used by various rifles chambered in Soviet 7.62x54mmR or 7.62x39mm. It comes equipped with a scope and 8-round mags (16 with the "Extended Clip" attachment) and can also be fitted with a flashlight, a suppressor, and an angled Magpul AFG2 foregrip. Oddly, it ejects larger cartridges than the .50 BMG Heavy Sniper, when it should eject a much smaller casing. A major advantage this rifle had over the other two sniper rifles in the last-gen versions was that the player character could move while aiming through the scope. This, however, came at a cost of a relatively low-power scope with fixed magnification. The next-gen versions default to allowing characters to move while aiming sniper rifles (this was made an option on the previous generation version), meaning the Mini-30's advantages are limited to higher capacity and rapid fire. The rifle also features the same gas system as an M14, giving it some resemblance to a rifle of the EBR family.

[[Image:Rugermini30clydearmory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger Mini-30 with Clyde Armory SCAR stock chassis - 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:M-39EMR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M39 Enhanced Marksman Rifle with Harris bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GTAVMarksmanRifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The game's Mini-30 model (here without the scope).]]
[[File:gtavmini30.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ruger in first person view.]]
[[File:gtavmini30-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading, note the AR-15 fire selector.]]
[[File:gtavmini30-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Traditional third person shows off the eastern block style magazine.]]

=Machine Guns=
==GE M134 Minigun==
A handheld [[GE M134 Minigun]] is available for the heavy weapon slot; the weapon is shown with no power supply or ammo feed, and loads every round the player has at once (a maximum capacity of 9999 rounds). The M134 is also seen in the non-playable FPS ''Righteous Slaughter 7''.
[[Image:Minigun 2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|'''Airsoft''' handheld M134 Minigun - (fake) 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GTAVGEM134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin firing a handheld GE M134 in an early screenshot.]]
[[File:GTAVGEM134(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jimmy's player character in ''Righteous Slaughter 7'' appears to have taken a visit to the [[Doom]] universe and brought back a minigun as a souvenir.]]
[[File:GTAVGEM134(3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|In an effort by Rockstar to outdo their last badass bank robbery, Trevor confronts the cops outside the bank with a handheld M134 minigun.]]
[[File:GTAVGEM134Closeup.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup on Trevor's minigun as he prepares to unleash hell.]]

==Hybrid FN Minimi Derivative==
The "Combat MG" featured in the game is a fictional hybrid of several [[FN Minimi]] variants, with the buttstock of an [[M60]]. The weapon is visually similar to the Mk 48 variant, but has the STANAG adaptor of a standard M249 SAW. The lower handguard is visually halfway between the M249 and M60, and the heat shield is low-profile with a sloped front like a Mk 46 Mod 1 but has a top rail like a Mod 0. To add to the confusion, the side of the weapon indicates "7.62 mm" which would only be correct for a Mk 48. It can accept all attachments except the flashlight and suppressor, and can be fitted with a 100 or 200 round belt. By default the weapon is fired from the hip, but when the Scope attachment is added the character will actually shoulder the weapon and fire it like an assault rifle. Michael is given one for free during the mission "Blitz Play" equipped with a scope and grip, and the weapon become available at Ammu-Nation afterwards. For some reason, the mission "Monkey Business" seems to steal Michael's Minimi, meaning he will have to purchase it again afterwards.

In multiplayer can be upgraded to Mk II status, which gives it a shorter barrel and heat shield similar to the [[M60E4]], as well as more customization options including ammunition types. Bizarrely, the stock appears to be from a [[G36|G36.]]

[[Image:Mk48mod1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Mk 48 Mod 1 - 7.62x51mm NATO. Visually the most similar Minimi variant.]]
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:GTAVCombatMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael holds a fully modded Minimi derivative as he wonders what his car is doing up there.]]
[[Image:Gtavmk48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin reloads his LMG during a shootout with LSPD first responders.]]
[[File:GTAVM249reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Charging the weapon, note an ejected casing.]]
[[Image:gtavmk48-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael watches Trevor wave a stumpy M500 at terrified civilians. Note the tell-tale STANAG magwell.]]
[[File:GTAVM249ads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the "Combat MG".]]
[[File:GTAVMk2CombatMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A player standing idle with his MK2 Minimi Derivative,note the bizarre stock.]]
[[File:GTAVMk2CombatMGFiring.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same player uses his Minimi Mk2 to punch an unfortunate squad car full of holes]]

==PKM==
A [[PK Machine Gun|PKM]] with synthetic furniture, a significantly shorter gas tube and an RIS handguard similar to that of the DSA RPD appears as the "MG". It has an RPD circular drum, which could not attach to the socket under the PKM, and with a strange capacity of 54 rounds by default, but the "Extended Clip" attachment gives it a standard PKM belt box with the correct capacity of 100 rounds. While the belt correctly feeds from right to left, the charging handle is incorrectly present on the left side of the weapon instead of the right. Oddly, the PKM is unlocked at Ammu-Nation after the M249, despite being an inferior weapon with fewer upgrade options, though it can be found hidden in the game world prior to this. A fully upgraded PKM is the standard armament of the "Dune FAV".
[[Image:HungarianPKM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKM - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:DS Arms RPD.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DS Arms RPD - 7.62x39mm]][[File:GTAVMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In game model of the PKM.]]
[[Image:gtavpkm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PK with all attachments.]]
[[Image:gtavpkm-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Despite the underbarrel rail, it cannot take the game's angled foregrip.]]
[[File:GTAVPKMreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Feeding in an ammunition belt.]]
[[File:GTAVPKMreload2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pulling the wrong-sided bolt back.]]
[[Image:gtavpkm-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PK machine gun in third person. Fingerless gloves are all but mandatory.]]
[[File:gtavpkm-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|View of the machine gun's iron sights.]]
[[File:GTAVmountedPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Operating the FAV-mounted PKM in first person.]]

=Launchers=

==FIM-92A Stinger==

What appears to be a [[FIM-92A Stinger]] (though the launch tube seems to have a slimmer profile, closer to an SA-7 Grail) is added as the "Homing Launcher" with the "Festive Surprise" DLC. It is incorrectly shown as reloadable with a muzzle-loaded round, most likely so the reloading animation for the RPG-7 could be re-used for it.

[[File:-0976t.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIM-92A Stinger - 70mm]]
[[File:GTAVStinger.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mean-faced anarchist models the FIM-92A.]]
[[File:GTAVStinger2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FPS view of the Stinger.]]
[[File:GTAVStinger3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Locking on to a stationary helicopter.]]

=="Firework Launcher"==
What appears to be a homemade [[Panzerschreck]] was added as the "Fireworks Launcher" with the "Independence Day" DLC released in July 2014. It is fitted with a muzzle-loaded firework rocket instead of the normal rear-loaded hollow charge, and is also painted with the American flag. It was a limited time only item in ''GTA Online'' and is also the only DLC weapon to be removed from GTA V's story mode; after it was removed it was no longer available in Ammu-Nation, though the Fireworks Launcher would remain in the inventory of any player character who still had ammunition for it in singleplayer. It has so far been available twice in the Xbox One and PS4 versions; it was available on December 25th 2014 and again on January 1st 2015. So far, there is no way to acquire it during gameplay in the PC version.

The Firework Launcher is essentially a toy rather than an effective weapon; even firing it at the player character's own feet will only cost about half their health, and rockets are more expensive than rounds for the RPG-7.

[[File:Tank h5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Panzerschreck rocket launcher - 88mm]]
[[File:Fireworks Launcher GTA V.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Michael with the "Fireworks Launcher".]]
[[File:GTAVfireworks.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The DIY Panzershreck overlooking Los Santos.]]
[[File:GTAVfireworksads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming down the optic that easily rivals a $1000 Leupold scope...]]

==M79 grenade launcher==
A shortened version of the [[M79 grenade launcher]] with a pistol grip appears as the "Compact Grenade Launcher", added with the "Bikers" DLC. It shares ammo and fires the same kind of bouncy round as the Mark 14 MGL.
[[File:M79 PistolGrip.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M79 grenade launcher with pistol grip - 40x46mm]]
[[File:GTAVM79.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M79 "pirate pistol" in idle.]]
[[File:GTAVM79ads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The rear leaf sight was later charged with desertion.]]
[[File:GTAVM79reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Opening up the barrel.]]
[[File:GTAVM793rd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eventually the commando succeeded in knocking down the giant orange.]]

==Milkor Mark 14 MGL==

A [[Milkor MGL#Mark 14 / M32A1|Milkor Mark 14 MGL]] appears in the game with a Magpul CTR stock. It has an unrealistic capacity of 10 grenades instead of 6, and is reloaded by inserting just one round into the cylinder. As is common in videogames, it fires unrealistic "smart" grenades which detonate on impact with humans, animals or vehicles, otherwise exploding on a timer. It is the first launcher to be unlocked, and is given to Trevor for free by his "cook", Chef, when the two have to defend Trevor's meth lab after he angers a local gang.

[[Image:Milkor Mark 14.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Milkor Mark 14 in desert tan finish fitted with Armson OEG reflex sight - 40x46mm]]
[[Image:GTA5 MGL.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Trevor holds an MGL as the forces of nature conspire to make his boring posing a little more dramatic.]]
[[File:GTAVMilkorMark14MGL.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During his fourth rampage mission, Trevor pulls a MGL out the back of a Jeep to demonstrate just why you ''don't'' keep a loaded weapon out in the open.]]
[[File:GTAVMGL.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A customized MGL in game. Due to a bug or oversight, the cylinder never rotates in first person.]]
[[File:GTAVMGLreload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dumping out an unfired 40mm round.]]
[[File:GTAVMGLreload2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading in third person.]]

==RPG-7==

The [[RPG-7]] with PG-7V (ПГ-7В) and custom polygonal breech is the only rocket launcher available without DLC in the original release. The next-gen version oddly has the front sight of an [[M136 AT4]], as well as a series of rather silly warnings on the launcher including "point toward enemy" and a painted reminder to not aim the RPG-7 at pets or feet.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[File:GTAV RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael rocks his RPG-7 and an awesome mask.]]
[[File:gtavrpg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin attempts to intimidate a solid 24/7 store into having an interior by aiming an 85mm HEAT warhead at it.]]
[[File:gtavrpg1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He sights up the sky instead with the non-standard set of iron sights.]]
[[File:GTAVRPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the RPG in third person.]]
[[File:GTAVRPG7reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the launcher.]]
[[File:GTAVRPGreload2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, in first person view.]]

=Thrown Weapons=

==M112 C4 Demolition Pack==

"Sticky bombs" made from a pair of mysteriously self-adhesive M112 C4 demolition packs rigged to a remote detonator are available as a thrown weapon, first available in Trevor's mission "Friends Reunited" when he is given twenty of them for free to blow up a trailer park used by The Lost MC biker gang. After this, all characters can buy them from Ammu-Nation. The charges are thrown like grenades and stick to surfaces, or can be placed if the player character is close to a wall. Every charge currently placed is detonated at the same time if they are set off using the detonate command, or they can be individually triggered with gunfire. The latter is unrealistic unless the gunfire somehow damages the detonator in a way that makes it operate, since C4 is an insensitive explosive.

[[Image:M112.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M112 C4 demolition charge]]
[[Image:GTAV-C4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Wait, this isn't my phone..."]]

==M18 Smoke Grenade==
The [[M18 smoke grenade]] appears as the "Tear Gas" grenade. The same model is also used for the pesticide grenades used in one approach to the jewelry store heist in singleplayer.

[[Image:M18red.jpg|thumb|none|120px|M18 red smoke grenade]]
[[File:GTAVTearGas.jpg|thumb|none|120px|In game model of the M18 smoke grenade.]]

==M61 Hand Grenade==
The [[M61 Hand Grenade|M61 hand grenade]] appears as the "Grenade".
[[Image:6696s.jpg|thumb|none|120px|M61 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade, improved version of the M26]]
[[File:GTAVGrenade.jpg|thumb|none|120px|In game model of the M61 Grenade.]]

==Mk 2 Hand Grenade==
The "GTA Online Lowriders" update includes allows certain cars to have custom gear shift levers, one of which resembles the [[Mk 2 hand grenade]].
[[File:MKIITrainingGrenade.jpg|thumb|none|120px|Mk 2 training grenade]]
[[File:gtavmk2frag.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mark II grenade column shift lever.....inside a minivan.]]

=Mounted Weapons=
==Browning M2HB==
The "Rhino", a fictional tank closely based on the German Leopard 2A4, mounts an unusable [[Browning M2]] on the commander's hatch. The Heists Update for ''GTA Online'' later added a vehicle to multiplayer called the "Insurgent", the pickup variant of which features a usable roof-mounted M2HB. Later, the "Gunrunning" update added an "Anti-Aircraft Trailer" which got the aforementioned M2HBs in a M51 quad mount as one of the 3 possible weapons alternatives (the others being a SAM and [[Oerlikon 20mm Cannon]]s) and a "Half-track" a vehicle inspired by the M3 Scout, which got the M51 mount as an upgrade, although the game refers to it as a "Quad 20mm cannons", but neither of these two is obtainable in singleplayer.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:GTA5-Tank-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Using his Secret Beard Powers to infiltrate Fort Zancudo military base, Trevor admires his prize, his very own tank.]]
[[Image:GTAV Heists M2HB1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A promotional image showing a character using the M2HB on the Insurgent pickup in ''GTA Online''.]]
[[Image:gtavm2hb.jpg|thumb|none|600px|View of the unusable M2HB in the enhanced edition.]]
[[Image:gtavm2hbfps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|First person usage of the HMG attached the the Insurgent patrol vehicle.]]
[[Image:gtavm2hbinsurgent.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alternate view of the same model.]]

==Degtyaryov DT==
For no obvious reason, a Soviet T-34-85 can be found in a junkyard in Los Santos. Even more curiously, it retains its hull-mounted [[Degtyaryov DT]] machine gun; these are usually not shown even on tanks that are supposed to be real, since videogame tanks are often based on museum pieces with empty hull gun mounts.

[[Image:DT tank machine gun TBiU 11.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DT machine gun - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:GTAV-T34-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael finds himself puzzled by the presence of a derelict 70-year-old Russian tank in a Los Santos junkyard.]]

==DShK==

The Heists Update added the "Technical" vehicle to ''GTA Online'', which is a Karin Rebel (Toyota Hilux parody) flatbed truck with a [[DShK heavy machine gun]] mounted on the back, equipped with an anti-aircraft sight.

[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DShK heavy machine gun mounted on tripod - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:GTAV Heists screenshot DShK1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A promotional image showing a character in the back of a Karin Technical using the DShK.]]
[[Image:gtavdshk.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Manning the DShK.]]
[[Image:gtavdshk1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FPS view, which makes use of the gun's distinctive anti-aircraft sights.]]
[[Image:gtavdshk2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Side profile of the mounted machinegun.]]

== General Dynamics GAU-17/A ==

The Valkyrie helicopter, added to ''GTA Online'' in the Heists Update, has two door-mounted [[GAU-17/A]] miniguns.

[[Image:GAU-17A HH60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|General Dynamics GAU-17/A, US Air Force version of the M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GTAVGau17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The business end of one of the Valkyrie's GAU-17/A miniguns.]]
[[File:GTAVGau17ads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Manning one of the miniguns in FPS view. As with the other helicopter mounted miniguns, they have drastically reduced fire rates, though in favor of high stopping power per shot.]]

==M61 Vulcan==
The "P-996 Lazer" fighter jet, a cross between the F-35, F/A-18 and F-16, is equipped with a pair of [[M61 Vulcan]] cannons, with the one installation an F-16 should have mirrored on both sides of the fuselage.

The Heists Update also added a mission set on an aircraft carrier, equipped with M61 Vulcan cannons in Phalanx CIWS installations.

[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GE M61 Vulcan Cannon - 20mm]]
[[Image:GTA5-Plane-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"I'm not getting in until you decide what kind of plane you are."]]
[[File:GTAV CIWS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Looking at the M61 Vulcan mounted in the carrier's CIWS.]]

==M134 Minigun==

Mounted [[M134 Minigun]]s appear in wing mounts on the Buzzard and Annihilator helicopters. The "Savage" gunship added in multiplyer in the Heists Update, which is a Hind-D, should probably have a [[Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B]] gatling gun, but instead has a six-barrel rotary chin gun which appears to be a stretched-out M134. The "Gunrunning Update" adds new vehicles with the M134 as a selectable weapon for the "Dune FAV" and "Weaponized Tampa", with the Tampa getting a pair fitted to a CROWS style weapon system on the top of the car, and the FAV getting it as an option for use by the passenger.

[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:GTA5-Buzzard-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor takes a walk around the "Buzzard" helicopter, checking out the under-wing miniguns. Note that they actually have ammo feeds.]]
[[Image:Gtavhind.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The chin turret of the "Savage" helicopter. Note the US Army markings, indicating it is likely meant to be one of the real world Mi-24's taken from Iraq for OPFOR training purposes.]]

==M230 Chain Gun==
Hunter attack helicopters (based on the AH-64 Apache) equipped with the [[M230 Chain Gun]] can be seen in the trailer for the in-game movie ''The Simian'', which can be seen when going to a movie theater while hanging out with a friend. The Hunter was finally added to the game with the ''Smuggler's Run'' update.

[[Image:Hughes-M230-Chain-Gun3.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Hughes/Alliant Techsystems M230 chain gun - 30x113mm B]]

==Oerlikon 20mm Cannon==
The Half-Track added in the "Gunrunning" update comes stock with a pair of [[Oerlikon 20mm Cannon]]s, which are oddly referred to as .50 caliber by the promotional material and in-game.
[[File:20mm Oerlikon Cannon.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Oerlikon 20mm Cannon -20mm]]

==Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B==
Conversely, the aptly named "Valkyrie" (UH-1Y Venom with the tail similar to that of a Eurocopter Dauphin) gunship sports the [[Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B]] 12.7mm Gatling gun in a nose turret. It is remotely controlled by players sitting in the copilot's seat, and is treated more like a slow firing autocannon with high-explosive rounds.

[[File:Yakb.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B mounted on Mi-24 Hind-D - 12.7x108mm]]
[[File:Gtavyakb.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Yak-B in game. The Executives and Other Criminals update added a variant without the nose gun in the Extraction missions, indexed as the "Valkyrie MOD.0"]]

=Other=

==Antique Musket==

A musket is added with the "Independence Day" DLC. This Musket barely resembles a [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket|Land Pattern Musket]] and it has a [[Jezail musket|Jezail]]-like semi-pistol grip instead of a straight grip, most likely so it can use the same hand positions as the sniper rifles. The weapon seems to be based on the M107 in terms of gameplay mechanics; it is extremely accurate, hugely powerful, and can penetrate multiple enemies if they are lined up; none of these are traits traditionally associated with a smoothbore musket firing lead balls. As can be expected for a muzzle-loading weapon, it has a very low rate of fire, taking several seconds to prepare a new round for firing. The animation is actually unrealistically short, however, showing player characters simply adding powder and a ball without using a ramrod, which would not allow either to be properly seated at the breech of the weapon. They also do not refill the flash pan, meaning the weapon would not actually fire, and the serpentine resets itself immediately after falling. For reasons which are not entirely clear, it counts as a shotgun. Though many smoothbore muskets can and have historically loaded buckshot for certain applications, they are not generally classified as shotguns.

[[File:Short land pattern brown bess.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Original "Short Land Pattern" Brown Bess musket made 1768-1805 - .75 caliber]]
[[File:Musket GTA V.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In game model of the musket]]
[[File:Musket 2 GTA V.jpg|thumb|none|250px|A character with the musket]]
[[File:gtavmusket.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The musket in FPS view.]]
[[File:gtavmusket1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The iron's iron sight....]]
[[File:gtavmusket2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Over the shoulder view of the muzzle loading.]]
[[File:gtavmusket3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The contemporary minuteman makes a bold statement in the wee hours....]]

=="Rail Gun"==
A rail gun appears in the high-def versions as a bonus for players who have already played the previous console version of GTA V: it is a rather odd "bonus", considering it still costs a quarter of a million dollars at Ammu-Nation (although a free one can be found in the wreckage of the crashed cargo plane in the Alamo Sea after completing the mission "Minor Turbulance"). It is in the heavy weapon slot and despite having a detachable magazine has only a single-shot capability, with a maximum ammunition limit of 20 rounds (including the one loaded). It is not featured in ''GTA Online''. True to its nature, it hits targets almost instantly. The weapon is an obvious work of fantasy; as yet it is not possible to build a smallarm-scale magnetic accelerator which is capable of any level of power that would make it useful as a weapon.

[[File:GTAVRailGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In game model of the Rail Gun.]]
[[File:GTAV-RailGun.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

=="Stun Gun"==

A [[Taser]]-like device is available as the "Stun Gun", first unlocked by doing Trevor's "Border Patrol" missions. While it fires out wires to deliver a shock, it is functionally rather like the Stun Knife in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots|Metal Gear Solid 4]]'': it can fire a shot every 3 seconds, which is the time it takes for the power meter to be recharged from 0 to 100. The weapon's model most closely resembles the Stinger S-200 from the defunct Stinger Systems. The rear of the weapon however bears a striking resemblance to a Glock pistol.

Unlike real-life Taser-type weapons, the "Stun Gun" does not need to replace cartridges or wires, nor does it have limited battery power. It is also worth noting that the term "Stun Gun" normally refers to contact electroshock devices rather than ones that can engage a target at range. The proper term would be a Conducted Energy Weapon.

[[Image:Stinger S-200.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Stinger S-200. Resemblances to the GTAV "Stun Gun" include the iron sights, the similarly-shaped muzzle (actually a recessed cavity to hold cartridges on the S-200), and the brightly-coloured button at the rear of the weapon, which on the S-200 is the safety/arming switch.]]
[[File:GTAVStunGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ingame model of the "Stun Gun."]]
[[File:GTAVtaser.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin uses the taser to torment some poor laborers.]]
[[File:GTAVtaserads.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plastic sights of the stun gun.]]

=Cut Weapons=

These weapons are generally images which can be found in the game files: no associated models appear to exist for them.

==FN P90==

In beta versions of the game the "Assault SMG" was more closely modeled on the [[FN P90]]. However, that model had an incorrect "traditional" bullpup layout with a standard magazine; such a setup is close to the Airsoft FN P90 "Predator".

[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Fabrique Nationale P90 - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:P90pred.jpg|thumb|none|400px|'''Airsoft''' FN P90 "Predator" - (fake) 5.7x28mm. Note the STANAG magazine adaptor, something only possible on an Airsoft gun.]]
[[File:AssaultSMG-GTAVbeta.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beta model showing an FN P90. The incorrect bullpup configuration appears to be based on the [[FN F2000]].]]

==FN SCAR-H==
The [[FN SCAR-H]] was going to appear as the "Heavy Rifle", with a different buttstock. Though unusable by the player, it does make an appearance in the trailer for the in-game movie ''The Simian''.
[[Image:FN SCAR -1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|First Generation FN SCAR-H with M68 Aimpoint scope and Grippod foregrip - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GTAVHeavyRifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Render of the removed SCAR-H.]]
[[File:GTAV-SCAR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The removed SCAR-H in the hands of a chimpanzee on the right.]]

==Heckler & Koch HK21==
The [[Heckler & Koch HK21]] was going to appears as the "Assault MG" with a [[Galil]] folding stock.
[[Image:HK21MachineGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK21 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GTAVAssaultMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Render of the removed HK21.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM25==
The [[Heckler & Koch XM25]] was going to appear as the "Programmable AR", presumably standing for "Airburst Round." Tutorial messages left in the game files show it was intended to include airburst functionality; when aiming, the first press of the trigger would have set the detonation distance, with subsequent presses firing grenades. Presumably, the player would have to stop aiming the weapon to set a new detonation range.

[[File:ATKXM25.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM25 - 25mm]]
[[File:GTAVProgrammableAR.jpg|thumb|none|249px|Render of the removed XM25, without a magazine.]]
[[File:GTAVProgrammableAR-HUD.jpg|thumb|none|249px|HUD icon.]]

==Knight's Armament Company M110 SASS==
A sniper rifle reminiscent of the [[SR-25|M110 SASS]] was going to appear as the "Assault Sniper".
[[File:KAC-M110A1-SASS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M110 SASS with Magpul ACS buttstock, Harris bipod, Leupold Mark 4 scope, AN/PVS-22 Universal Night Sight, and tan paint scheme - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GTAVAssaultSniper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Render of the removed M110 SASS.]]
[[Image:GTAV-SASS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael holds a SASS in a promotional image.]]

==M249E2 SAW==

The beta "Combat MG" was an [[M249-E2 SAW]] with a para-length barrel, RIS receiver cover and an incorrect rail on top of the heat shield.

[[Image:Fn m249saw mk2 10-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M249-E2 SAW - upgraded M249 with heat shield and full synthetic Stock, equipped with a 200 round ammo drum - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:GTAVMk46Beta.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beta M249-E2.]]

==Mk 18 Mod 0==

Several promotional images, some of which are used as loading screens in the final game, imply the fictional custom AR-15 was originally going to be a [[Mk 18 Mod 0]].

[[Image:Mk18.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 18 Mod 0 with LMT rear sight, Crane stock, and RIS foregrip - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:GTAV-SASS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor hefts a Mk 18 Mod 0 in a promotional image.]]
[[Image:GTAV-Mk18-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael strikes a pose in front of the Vinewood sign with a suppressed Mk 18 Mod 0.]]
[[Image:GTA5 AR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In a cover image for ''Game Informer'' magazine seemingly showing the crew after successfully robbing a bridge, Trevor carries an unsuppressed Mk 18 Mod 0. Note the short barrel.]]

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Mafia III

2016-09-28T10:07:46Z

Sandymon: /* Mossberg 500AT/ Remington 870 */

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{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Mafia III
|picture = Mafia III logo temp.jpg
|caption = Mafia III
|series= [[Mafia (disambiguation)|Mafia]]
|date= October 7th 2016
|developer=Hangar 13
|platforms=PlayStation 4 Xbox One PC
|publisher=2K Games
|genre=Action-adventure}}

'''''Mafia III''''' is an upcoming open-world action-adventure video game, and a sequel to ''[[Mafia II]]''. It is developed by Hangar 13 and published by 2K Games, and is set to release in October 2016 for the PC, Xbox One and PlayStation 4.

'''The following firearms make an appearance in the video game ''Mafia III'':'''
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=Handguns=
==Colt M1911A1==
The [[Colt M1911A1]] is one of many available handguns in Mafia 3.

[[File:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|World War II Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP.]]
[[File:Mafia III pre-release M1911 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln firing his M1911A1.]]
[[File:Mafia III pre-release M1911 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln holding his M1911A1.]]
[[File:Mafia 3 1911 Clay 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NPC passes a M1911A1 to Clay.]]
[[File:Mafia 3 Clay m1911 closeup.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Clay reaching for the M1911A1.]]
[[File:Mafia 3 m1911 loading.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Clay puts a new magazine in the m1911A1.]]

==Browning Hi-Power==
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is available for use in the game. It can also bee seen among other weapons in a stash from one of the promotional videos.
[[File:Browning-HP-P35.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power .9mm]]

==High Standard HDM==
The [[High Standard HDM]] is usable throughout the game. It has an integral suppressor, allowing for more stealthy gunplay.

[[File:Hi-Standard-HD-Silenced.jpg|thumb|none|400px|High Standard HDM with integrated silencer - .22 LR]]
[[File:Mafia III gameplay HDM.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln holding a High Standard HDM. Note the icon on the lower left corner showing an [[M1911A1]] with a suppressor.]]
[[File:Mafia 3 hdm aiming.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln aims the HDM at some enemies]]

==Colt Python==
Lincoln Clay and other characters make use of the Colt Python throughout the game.

[[File:ColtPython6In.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt Python. .357 magnum]]

[[File:Mafia 3 loading python.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln loads a Colt Python that seems to have a rather long barrel.]]

[[File:Mafia III pre-release Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As he speeds down the street in a muscle car, the Python can be seen in Lincoln's right hand.]]

=Shotguns=
==Remington 870==
A pump action shotgun resembling the [Remington 870] can be used by the player and by NPC's. It can be identified as a Remington 870, and not the Mossberg 500AT some have claimed it to be, by the rounded trigger guard and the shorter magazine tube cap.

[[File:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 gauge]]

[[File:Mafia III pre-release M1A1 Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A thug drops the shotgun after being gunned down by Lincoln]]

[[File:Mafia III gameplay Rem870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln holding the shotgun]]

==Ithaca 37==
Lincoln can shoots his enemies with an [[Ithaca 37]], which appears in-game with a pistol grip, both with and without a stock.

[[File:Ithaca37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca Model 37 riot with pistol grip - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Mafia III trailer Ithaca37.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln uses one hand to hold an enemy and the other to shoot him.]]
[[File:Mafia 3 ithica.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln fires at en enemy.]]

==Winchester Model 1887==
A [[Winchester Model 1887]] resembling the configuration from [[Terminator 2]] is available fore use in Mafia 3. Lincoln can flip-cock the gun in a manner similar to Arnold Schwarzenegger. Interestingly, the gun does not have a wide lever loop, making the flip-cock almost impossible without breaking one's hand. Because of this, Lincoln appears to use only his thumb inside the loop to work the action.

[[Image:Norinco Winchester 1887.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Sawed off Winchester Model 1887 (Norinco Replica) - 12 gauge]]
[[File:MafiaIII1887.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Winchester Model 1887 on the ground, with an icon hovering over it.]]
[[File:Mafia 3 1887 pre-cock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln prepares to cycle the 1887.]]
[[File:Mafia 3 1887 mid-cock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln midway through cocking the 1887 Notice how only Lincoln's thumb appears to be inside the loop as it rotates.]]

==Sawed off double barrel shotgun==
Lincoln can make use of the classic gangster weapon, the sawed-off shotgun.
[[File:Remington SBS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shotgun similar to the model used in-game. Note the lack of external hammers and the double triggers.]]
[[File:Mafia 3 sawed off.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln about to slam the gun's barrels shut]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Beretta M12==
In a gameplay video, a bad guy is briefly seen holding a [[Beretta M12]]. It appears in the game as "Carter M33-A"
[[File:Beretta M12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta M12 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Mafia III gameplay M12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The man in the middle is holding a Beretta M12.]]

==Smith & Wesson 76==
Lincoln can use this weapon in the game. It appears in the game as the "Alfredsson M833"
[[Image:S&W_M76.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|Smith & Wesson M76]]

==Heckler & Koch MP54==
In the game Lincoln and many of the gangsters can be seen using a Heckler and Koch MP54 with a straight magazine. It appears in the game as "Deutsche M11B"
[[Image:H&K MP54.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP54 earliest prototype of the H&K MP5 - 9x19mm]]

==Uzi==
Lincoln can use this weapon. It appears in the game as the "Binya".
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Uzi 9mm]]

==M1A1 Thompson==
Lincoln is seen firing an [[M1A1 Thompson]] in a released screenshot.
[[File:M1sb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1A1 Thompson with 30-round magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Mafia III pre-release M1A1 Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln firing a Thompson.]]

==M3A1 Grease gun==
In the game Lincoln and the gangsters use an M3A1 Grease gun. It appears in game as "M1N8", and is available in a suppressed variation.
[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP.]]
[[File:Grease silenced .jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3A1 with a suppressor attached]]

==VZ.61 Skorpion==
A [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion|Vz.61 Skorpion]] is seen being dropped by an enemy in a gameplay demo. It appears in the game as "Czech Ver B-65"
[[Image:CZ Vz.61.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Sa. Vz. 61 Skorpion - .32 ACP]]
[[File:Mafia3VZ61.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An enemy drops his Skorpion as Lincoln blasts him with his Thompson.]]

=Rifles=
==AK-47==
An [[AK-47]] or its variant is seen in E3 gameplay. It appears as "Pasadena AR30".

[[File:AK-47.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Type I AK-47, hybrid stamped/milled receiver with prototype slab sided magazine - 7.62x39mm]]

==Colt M16A1==
[[M16A1]] is briefly seen in the reveal trailer. It is also seen in E3 gameplay with a 30-round magazine, and appears as "Stromer .223".

[[File:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M16A1 with 30 round magazine - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:Mafia III trailer M60D.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16 variant seen in the foreground.]]

==M1 Carbine==
What looks like an [[M1 Carbine]] is briefly seen in the hands of a bad guy in One Way Road story trailer. It appears without the bayonet lug. Lincoln can use this weapon in the game.
[[File:AutoOrdM1Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Modern Manufactured version of the M1 Carbine, with standard stock, from Auto-Ordnance (affiliated with Kahr Arms and Thompson Arms) - .30 Carbine]]
[[File:Mafia III trailer M1 Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M1 Carbine flying in mid air.]]

==Tokarev SVT-40==
In One Way Road story trailer, Burke is seen firing an [[SVT-40]] with a scope. Lincoln can use this weapon in the game.
[[File:SVT-40 Sniper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tokarev SVT-40 with PU sniper scope - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[File:Mafia III trailer SVT40.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burke takes aim with the SVT-40.]]

==Winchester model 70==
Lincoln can be seen in the game using this scoped bolt action rifle.
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]

==M14==
Lincoln can use this weapon in the game. It appears in the game as the "Automat SG"
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

=Machine Guns=

==M60==
In the game trailer Lincoln is seen firing this weapon at some mobsters in cars. Lincoln can be seen using this weapon in the game and it appears as "Hartmann 7.62MM"
[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

==M60D==
In the reveal trailer, Lincoln is seen in a helicopter manning an [[M60D]] machine gun.

[[File:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60D machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:Mafia III trailer M60D.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincold holding the M60D by the spade grips.]]

=Launchers=
==M72A1 LAW==
Lincoln can use this weapon in the game. In the game it appears as the "Hartmann AT-40"
[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW - 66mm]]

==M79 grenade launcher==
Lincoln is seen firing an [[M79 grenade launcher]] in a video. In the game it appears as the "Hartmann HLP"

[[File:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm]]
[[File:Mafia III trailer M79.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln firing an M79 at a car.]]

=Miscellaneous=
==Gun Stashes==
In one of the promotional trailers for the game, several stashes of guns were seen.
[[File:Mafia 3 stash 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Among the weapons, we can see a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]], an [[Uzi]], a [[Ithaca 37]] with a pistol grip, an [[m1911A1]], a [[Browning High Power]], a [[Colt Python]], a [[Mossberg 500]], a scoped [[SVT-40]], a [[m79 Grenade Launcher]], a [[M16 Rifle]], a [[M72 LAW]], and a [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"]].]]

[[File:Mafia 3 guns stash 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Among the weapons, we can see a [[m1911A1]], an [[Browning High Power]], a [[Colt Python]], more than one [[Mossberg 500]], a [[Winchester Model 1887]], two [[Heckler & Koch MP5]]'s, an [[M60]], a scoped [[SVT-40]], a pair of [[m79 Grenade Launcher]]'s, an [[AK-47]], a [[M72 LAW]], two [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion|Vz.61 Skorpion]]'s, as well as both a silenced and standard version of the [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"]].]]

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Talk:Mafia III

2016-09-28T10:04:52Z

Sandymon: /* Shotgun Identification */

[https://youtu.be/_Xtq18Vmh3s] - in fact, a video of the gameplay. One can see a lot of new guns. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 14:38, 18 December 2015 (EST)
:I saw a M1911A1 (in the magical DAO mode) something that looked like a lee-enfield boltgun, a colt python(?) and a full size Uzi. Gotta say, this game looks kinda crap, and im not talking about the graphics.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 14:47, 18 December 2015 (EST)
::It has a real crappy vibe to it... [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 16:49, 18 December 2015 (EST)
:::It looks kinda janky and laggy for one thing, but it also just feels kinda soulless, like the devs aren't really using the environment they created as anything other then a shooting gallery filled with uncocked hammers. Oh well, we'll see how it turns out, seems to have a good soundtrack atleast.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 17:10, 18 December 2015 (EST)
::::I spotted a Vz 61 Skorpion as "Czech Version B-65" around 9:10, perhaps an M1 Garand as "Mayweather .30 Battle Rifle" with what looks like a short magazine at 9:21, M1928 Thompson as "Trench 1938" at 9:46. And I do agree, it does look somewhat crappy and soulless. It feels like a generic or GTA-like free roaming shooting gallery, and I don't like the way Lincoln holds his pistol with one hand, at least Vito in Mafia II used both hands. Also I don't think that kind of knife takedowns fit in a Mafia game, and why on earth the guns don't go by their real names as many guns did in Mafia II? Of course it's in alpha stage and many things may change, but damn. EDIT: Hot damn, Paint it Black plays on car radio, I may have to buy this game :D --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 03:42, 19 December 2015 (EST)
:::::The soundtrack does seem to be really good, they had The house of the rising sun and All along the watchtower in the first trailer.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 07:44, 19 December 2015 (EST)
::::::The alfredsson pistol appears to be a S&W Model 39. I think the shotgun is a Remington 870. I also spotted an AK. When Lincoln abandons his car and it rams the mafia thugs causing an explosion, a rifle is thrown into the air which I believe is an AK. You have to look really close to see it. I'm dissapointed with some of the weapon choices. I thought the devs would choose to include guns that criminals in the 1960s could realistically obtain. This seems to be the case as far as the choice of pistols and the inclusion the Thompson & Garand, but when I watched the gameplay I expected to see weapons such as M3, S&W M-76, M-1 Carbine, or M-14. Instead it appears anything that existed in 1968 is fair game. Sorry, but including the Skorpion is total BS...I'm going to go out on a limb and say there were exactly 0 mafia thugs using those in the 1960s. The AK is also very unlikely. Yes, some were smuggled back from Vietnam, but I highly doubt it was a common weapon in the mafia. At least all the weapons appear to be accurately modeled after their real world counterparts. As far as the quality of the game as a whole, I'll reserve judgment until I see the finished product.-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 00:03, 20 December 2015 (EST)
:::::::I'm disappointed no crime game ever features cheap saturday night special type guns like a Raven Arms or Hi-Point. In the case of Mafia III, a Rohm revolver might be fitting.--[[User:Aidoru|Aidoru]] ([[User talk:Aidoru|talk]]) 02:56, 20 December 2015 (EST)

== The Unknown Guns ==

Taking a bit of a guess due to the screenshots not being the best, I think the unknown revolver is a Colt Python, from both the image as well as the various release videos they did for the game. The unknown shotgun appears to be another Remington 870 like Mafia II, just without the barrel rib. Also try to organize this discussion page, it's a pretty big mess. -- [[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 11:36, 18 January 2015 (EST)

==New Trailer, New Gameplay, New Guns==
The latest trailer & gameplay footage reveal quite a few new weapons.
This gameplay [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVxxno8FX1s video]
Shows: What I think is M3 "Grease Gun" at 1:19, Beretta M12 at 1:23, Remington 700 at 4:01?, sawed off Winchester 1901 at 3:02, & the Lupara at 3:25.
The new [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxzj3QbTCQs trailer] shows what appears to be a SVT-40 at 1:15, Ithaca 37 at 1:24, & M1 Carbine at 1:28.
There is also a suppressed pistol, which appears to be a High Standard. For some reason the icon shows a 1911 with silencer. A good shot of it is in this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCvtBv-EUH4 video] at 2:00 minute mark.- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 01:56, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
:I took some screencaps of Ithaca 37 and SVT-40 from the One Way Road story trailer. And also it seems that they're using M1928 Thompson as the weapon icon for the M1A1 Thompson. --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 04:14, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
::I noticed the Thompson icon too, maybe that's something they will fix before the game is released, but who knows. I also saw that some mafia thugs drop a pistol named "Elling 9 mm", but there is no way to identify it as there is no accompaning icon. I'm guessing it's either a Walther P38, Browning Hi-Power, or Beretta M1951..there aren't too many other choices for this time period. Will you be adding the other weapons to page?-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 15:03, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
:::I added the Remington 870, Beretta M12 and High Standard HDM. Even though the shotgun does look like an 870, Lincoln decides not to pump the weapon after each shot, which makes me wonder whether this is just a gameplay issue (as the game is still in development phase), little ignorance from the devs or is it a semi-auto shotgun? --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 03:37, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
::::The shotgun is definitely based on a pump Remington 870, but it's possible it's supposed to be a semi auto and the devs screwed up. It seems like a dumb mistake to make If that's the case. I would think that if it is intended to be a pump gun that the animation would have been added before it was demo'd. Of course this is still in development so things could change. Also, I was able to get a good look at the other SMG in the gameplay footage, and it's definitely an M3. As for the Elling 9mm, I was able to get a very brief glimpse of it, and I'm leaning toward it being a Browning Hi-Power. -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 23:45, 25 April 2016 (EDT)

== 2 new guns ==

Hey everyone, I saw a gameplay demo tonight and spotted two new guns- the Skorpion and Winchester 1887. Added both to the page with images.

It seems like this game will have a pretty sizable arsenal to choose from, which always makes me happy. I hope we get an M14 and an AR-10 too. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 01:40, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
:The selection of weapons is much improved compared to the last Mafia game. The M-14 is a must, and perhaps the game will feature a sniper version. I would also like to see the Carl Gustav M/45 or a S&W M-76. And since the devs aren't trying to be too realistic in their choices, why not include weapons like the CAR-15, Stoner 63, & Remington 7188?-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 00:21, 29 April 2016 (EDT)

==E3 Coverage==
A [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsQCeo3u2Pk video] released at E3 shows 20 minutes of Mafia 3 gameplay. Lots more guns are seen in action, including the M16, AK47 & M60. 

Other guns I spotted: 

Browning Hi-Power, appears as the "Elling 9mm". 

New Shotgun, the "Riot 550", probably modeled on the Mossberg 500. The shotgun animation has also been corrected. In previous videos Lincoln never pumped the shotgun after firing, he now can be seen working the pump after every shot. 

M3 Grease Gun-- dropped by quite a few thugs. 

At one point Lincoln is holding what I'm almost sure is an M-14. 

MAB PA-15 F1, appears as the Blackburn FAF-33. At first I thought this was a Stechkin, but after looking at the trigger & other details, pretty sure it's a MAB. 

The most unusual addition is the early version of the MP5, the HK54! 

It's obvious that any weapon that existed in 1968 is fair game for inclusion, so who knows what else will pop up. -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 22:52, 13 June 2016 (EDT)

I mean if it has the slimline grips and straight mag, it's not anachronistic. The PA-15 seems like an odd choice, but given the Scorpion and AK, anything's possible. -- [[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 00:56, 14 June 2016 (EST)
:It's unusual because they chose early HK54 version, instead of the MP5A3. The gun may not be anachronistic, but it's safe to say there were 0 MP5s in the U.S. In 1968. From what I have read, the first few sample MP5s weren't imported until 1970. As I mentioned, it seems anything that existed in 1968 is fair game, the devs don't seem to care what was actually available in the U.S. during this time period. The MAB may seem an unusual addition, but I believe these were actually imported into the U.S. In the 1960s, so it's not far fetched. -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 02:26, 14 June 2016 (EDT)
::Of course anything that existed during the time period is fair game. Look at Battlefield 1 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 11:36, 14 June 2016 (EDT)

The sniper rifle Lincoln fires at about 4:02 is 100% a Springfield M1903A4, I like the weapon choices, of course there is a bit of annoyance at the presence of the AK, but overall you can tell they actually paid attention (infinitely more than other games I could mention *Black Ops*) to weapons of the era, maybe took a little artistic license with some of their availability, but they fit and add to the setting; moreso than an AUG on the battlefields of Vietnam.
:The presence of the AK could always be handwaved as being a battlefield bringback from Vietnam, or being smuggled into the country through Central/South America.--[[User:Aidoru|Aidoru]] ([[User talk:Aidoru|talk]]) 05:07, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

==About that "MP5"==
I don't think the weapon in question can be listed is an MP5A3. It's clear that the in-game weapon has the sights, forearm, & barrel of the HK54, despite using an icon of the MP5A3. The magazine of the in-game gun is not even the typical straight "waffle pattern", but an even earlier version. I see that the MP5 page has no photo of the HK54. Does someone have a photo of this weapon that we can use for this site? -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 23:28, 19 June 2016 (EDT)
:We do have a picture of HK54, or MP54, it's in MP5 discussion page. I'll go ahead and put it on the page and switch the MP5A3 to MP54, as I also think the weapon in game is MP54. --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 02:48, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
::OK, I didn't even think to check the discussion page! Thanks for updating that entry.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 00:11, 21 June 2016 (EDT)

==More Weapons==
Quite a few videos have been uploaded to YouTube by gamers that attended the Mafia 3 preview event hosted by 2k, and that means loads of more info about weapons. Many of the them can be seen in this [https://youtu.be/fMRwJI1NaH8 video] that shows the weapons van. I've spotted the Remington 1100, S&W M-76, Uzi, M-14, M1903 sniper, LAW rocket, & the .44 Automag. The Automag is the only weapon I've seen that is totally anachronistic for the time period, although it was under development in '68, so it's not that far off. The M-14 can be fired full auto, and can also be obtained with a Starlight scope. Suppressed variant of the M3 is in the game. There is also a version of the Python with a scope!

A couple of things bugged me, though. One is the Remington 1100--it's horribly modeled. The forearm looks like the pump of the 870. It's as if the artists took the existing 870 and just slightly modified it to make the 1100. It also has a pistol grip and full stock, which I don't believe existed at the time, at least not as a factory option. I suppose it could be argued that it's a custom stock. I also don't like the "alfredsson M200". I get the impression from it's description that it was intended to be a DA Smith, but the icon looks like a SA Ruger. This might be another case of the icon not matching the in-game weapon. I caught a glimpse of the revolvers carried by the police and they resemble DA S&Ws, not SA Rugers. Of course I'm assumimg these are the same weapon.- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 20:43, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

==Weapons Stashes==
The pump shotguns in the weapon stash screenshots are Remington 870s, not Mossbergs. The in-game Mossberg 500 has an extended magazine tube, despite the fact the icon shows the standard capacity version.- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 23:00, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

==Shotgun Identification==
I'm sorry, but the Remington 870 & Mossberg 500 are not "virtually identical". It's clear to me that the "Barker 390" is supposed to be a Remington 870. The most telling detail is the magazine tube cap, which has no lug attaching it to the barrel. The Mossberg has a barrel lug that connects to the magazine. This can be seen clearly in the photos of both guns on the Mafia 3 page. The screenshot used for the Ithaca 37 is also wrong. It shows the "Barker 1500", which is supposed to be a Remington 1100.- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 22:02, 27 September 2016 (EDT)

Also looks to have the curved trigger guard of the Remington, I'm just going to go ahead and change it if nobody has any complaints [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]]) 06:04, 28 September 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Mafia III

2016-09-28T10:04:12Z

Sandymon: /* Shotgun Identification */

[https://youtu.be/_Xtq18Vmh3s] - in fact, a video of the gameplay. One can see a lot of new guns. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 14:38, 18 December 2015 (EST)
:I saw a M1911A1 (in the magical DAO mode) something that looked like a lee-enfield boltgun, a colt python(?) and a full size Uzi. Gotta say, this game looks kinda crap, and im not talking about the graphics.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 14:47, 18 December 2015 (EST)
::It has a real crappy vibe to it... [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 16:49, 18 December 2015 (EST)
:::It looks kinda janky and laggy for one thing, but it also just feels kinda soulless, like the devs aren't really using the environment they created as anything other then a shooting gallery filled with uncocked hammers. Oh well, we'll see how it turns out, seems to have a good soundtrack atleast.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 17:10, 18 December 2015 (EST)
::::I spotted a Vz 61 Skorpion as "Czech Version B-65" around 9:10, perhaps an M1 Garand as "Mayweather .30 Battle Rifle" with what looks like a short magazine at 9:21, M1928 Thompson as "Trench 1938" at 9:46. And I do agree, it does look somewhat crappy and soulless. It feels like a generic or GTA-like free roaming shooting gallery, and I don't like the way Lincoln holds his pistol with one hand, at least Vito in Mafia II used both hands. Also I don't think that kind of knife takedowns fit in a Mafia game, and why on earth the guns don't go by their real names as many guns did in Mafia II? Of course it's in alpha stage and many things may change, but damn. EDIT: Hot damn, Paint it Black plays on car radio, I may have to buy this game :D --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 03:42, 19 December 2015 (EST)
:::::The soundtrack does seem to be really good, they had The house of the rising sun and All along the watchtower in the first trailer.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 07:44, 19 December 2015 (EST)
::::::The alfredsson pistol appears to be a S&W Model 39. I think the shotgun is a Remington 870. I also spotted an AK. When Lincoln abandons his car and it rams the mafia thugs causing an explosion, a rifle is thrown into the air which I believe is an AK. You have to look really close to see it. I'm dissapointed with some of the weapon choices. I thought the devs would choose to include guns that criminals in the 1960s could realistically obtain. This seems to be the case as far as the choice of pistols and the inclusion the Thompson & Garand, but when I watched the gameplay I expected to see weapons such as M3, S&W M-76, M-1 Carbine, or M-14. Instead it appears anything that existed in 1968 is fair game. Sorry, but including the Skorpion is total BS...I'm going to go out on a limb and say there were exactly 0 mafia thugs using those in the 1960s. The AK is also very unlikely. Yes, some were smuggled back from Vietnam, but I highly doubt it was a common weapon in the mafia. At least all the weapons appear to be accurately modeled after their real world counterparts. As far as the quality of the game as a whole, I'll reserve judgment until I see the finished product.-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 00:03, 20 December 2015 (EST)
:::::::I'm disappointed no crime game ever features cheap saturday night special type guns like a Raven Arms or Hi-Point. In the case of Mafia III, a Rohm revolver might be fitting.--[[User:Aidoru|Aidoru]] ([[User talk:Aidoru|talk]]) 02:56, 20 December 2015 (EST)

== The Unknown Guns ==

Taking a bit of a guess due to the screenshots not being the best, I think the unknown revolver is a Colt Python, from both the image as well as the various release videos they did for the game. The unknown shotgun appears to be another Remington 870 like Mafia II, just without the barrel rib. Also try to organize this discussion page, it's a pretty big mess. -- [[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 11:36, 18 January 2015 (EST)

==New Trailer, New Gameplay, New Guns==
The latest trailer & gameplay footage reveal quite a few new weapons.
This gameplay [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVxxno8FX1s video]
Shows: What I think is M3 "Grease Gun" at 1:19, Beretta M12 at 1:23, Remington 700 at 4:01?, sawed off Winchester 1901 at 3:02, & the Lupara at 3:25.
The new [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxzj3QbTCQs trailer] shows what appears to be a SVT-40 at 1:15, Ithaca 37 at 1:24, & M1 Carbine at 1:28.
There is also a suppressed pistol, which appears to be a High Standard. For some reason the icon shows a 1911 with silencer. A good shot of it is in this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCvtBv-EUH4 video] at 2:00 minute mark.- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 01:56, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
:I took some screencaps of Ithaca 37 and SVT-40 from the One Way Road story trailer. And also it seems that they're using M1928 Thompson as the weapon icon for the M1A1 Thompson. --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 04:14, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
::I noticed the Thompson icon too, maybe that's something they will fix before the game is released, but who knows. I also saw that some mafia thugs drop a pistol named "Elling 9 mm", but there is no way to identify it as there is no accompaning icon. I'm guessing it's either a Walther P38, Browning Hi-Power, or Beretta M1951..there aren't too many other choices for this time period. Will you be adding the other weapons to page?-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 15:03, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
:::I added the Remington 870, Beretta M12 and High Standard HDM. Even though the shotgun does look like an 870, Lincoln decides not to pump the weapon after each shot, which makes me wonder whether this is just a gameplay issue (as the game is still in development phase), little ignorance from the devs or is it a semi-auto shotgun? --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 03:37, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
::::The shotgun is definitely based on a pump Remington 870, but it's possible it's supposed to be a semi auto and the devs screwed up. It seems like a dumb mistake to make If that's the case. I would think that if it is intended to be a pump gun that the animation would have been added before it was demo'd. Of course this is still in development so things could change. Also, I was able to get a good look at the other SMG in the gameplay footage, and it's definitely an M3. As for the Elling 9mm, I was able to get a very brief glimpse of it, and I'm leaning toward it being a Browning Hi-Power. -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 23:45, 25 April 2016 (EDT)

== 2 new guns ==

Hey everyone, I saw a gameplay demo tonight and spotted two new guns- the Skorpion and Winchester 1887. Added both to the page with images.

It seems like this game will have a pretty sizable arsenal to choose from, which always makes me happy. I hope we get an M14 and an AR-10 too. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 01:40, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
:The selection of weapons is much improved compared to the last Mafia game. The M-14 is a must, and perhaps the game will feature a sniper version. I would also like to see the Carl Gustav M/45 or a S&W M-76. And since the devs aren't trying to be too realistic in their choices, why not include weapons like the CAR-15, Stoner 63, & Remington 7188?-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 00:21, 29 April 2016 (EDT)

==E3 Coverage==
A [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsQCeo3u2Pk video] released at E3 shows 20 minutes of Mafia 3 gameplay. Lots more guns are seen in action, including the M16, AK47 & M60. 

Other guns I spotted: 

Browning Hi-Power, appears as the "Elling 9mm". 

New Shotgun, the "Riot 550", probably modeled on the Mossberg 500. The shotgun animation has also been corrected. In previous videos Lincoln never pumped the shotgun after firing, he now can be seen working the pump after every shot. 

M3 Grease Gun-- dropped by quite a few thugs. 

At one point Lincoln is holding what I'm almost sure is an M-14. 

MAB PA-15 F1, appears as the Blackburn FAF-33. At first I thought this was a Stechkin, but after looking at the trigger & other details, pretty sure it's a MAB. 

The most unusual addition is the early version of the MP5, the HK54! 

It's obvious that any weapon that existed in 1968 is fair game for inclusion, so who knows what else will pop up. -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 22:52, 13 June 2016 (EDT)

I mean if it has the slimline grips and straight mag, it's not anachronistic. The PA-15 seems like an odd choice, but given the Scorpion and AK, anything's possible. -- [[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 00:56, 14 June 2016 (EST)
:It's unusual because they chose early HK54 version, instead of the MP5A3. The gun may not be anachronistic, but it's safe to say there were 0 MP5s in the U.S. In 1968. From what I have read, the first few sample MP5s weren't imported until 1970. As I mentioned, it seems anything that existed in 1968 is fair game, the devs don't seem to care what was actually available in the U.S. during this time period. The MAB may seem an unusual addition, but I believe these were actually imported into the U.S. In the 1960s, so it's not far fetched. -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 02:26, 14 June 2016 (EDT)
::Of course anything that existed during the time period is fair game. Look at Battlefield 1 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 11:36, 14 June 2016 (EDT)

The sniper rifle Lincoln fires at about 4:02 is 100% a Springfield M1903A4, I like the weapon choices, of course there is a bit of annoyance at the presence of the AK, but overall you can tell they actually paid attention (infinitely more than other games I could mention *Black Ops*) to weapons of the era, maybe took a little artistic license with some of their availability, but they fit and add to the setting; moreso than an AUG on the battlefields of Vietnam.
:The presence of the AK could always be handwaved as being a battlefield bringback from Vietnam, or being smuggled into the country through Central/South America.--[[User:Aidoru|Aidoru]] ([[User talk:Aidoru|talk]]) 05:07, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

==About that "MP5"==
I don't think the weapon in question can be listed is an MP5A3. It's clear that the in-game weapon has the sights, forearm, & barrel of the HK54, despite using an icon of the MP5A3. The magazine of the in-game gun is not even the typical straight "waffle pattern", but an even earlier version. I see that the MP5 page has no photo of the HK54. Does someone have a photo of this weapon that we can use for this site? -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 23:28, 19 June 2016 (EDT)
:We do have a picture of HK54, or MP54, it's in MP5 discussion page. I'll go ahead and put it on the page and switch the MP5A3 to MP54, as I also think the weapon in game is MP54. --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 02:48, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
::OK, I didn't even think to check the discussion page! Thanks for updating that entry.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 00:11, 21 June 2016 (EDT)

==More Weapons==
Quite a few videos have been uploaded to YouTube by gamers that attended the Mafia 3 preview event hosted by 2k, and that means loads of more info about weapons. Many of the them can be seen in this [https://youtu.be/fMRwJI1NaH8 video] that shows the weapons van. I've spotted the Remington 1100, S&W M-76, Uzi, M-14, M1903 sniper, LAW rocket, & the .44 Automag. The Automag is the only weapon I've seen that is totally anachronistic for the time period, although it was under development in '68, so it's not that far off. The M-14 can be fired full auto, and can also be obtained with a Starlight scope. Suppressed variant of the M3 is in the game. There is also a version of the Python with a scope!

A couple of things bugged me, though. One is the Remington 1100--it's horribly modeled. The forearm looks like the pump of the 870. It's as if the artists took the existing 870 and just slightly modified it to make the 1100. It also has a pistol grip and full stock, which I don't believe existed at the time, at least not as a factory option. I suppose it could be argued that it's a custom stock. I also don't like the "alfredsson M200". I get the impression from it's description that it was intended to be a DA Smith, but the icon looks like a SA Ruger. This might be another case of the icon not matching the in-game weapon. I caught a glimpse of the revolvers carried by the police and they resemble DA S&Ws, not SA Rugers. Of course I'm assumimg these are the same weapon.- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 20:43, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

==Weapons Stashes==
The pump shotguns in the weapon stash screenshots are Remington 870s, not Mossbergs. The in-game Mossberg 500 has an extended magazine tube, despite the fact the icon shows the standard capacity version.- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 23:00, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

==Shotgun Identification==
I'm sorry, but the Remington 870 & Mossberg 500 are not "virtually identical". It's clear to me that the "Barker 390" is supposed to be a Remington 870. The most telling detail is the magazine tube cap, which has no lug attaching it to the barrel. The Mossberg has a barrel lug that connects to the magazine. This can be seen clearly in the photos of both guns on the Mafia 3 page. The screenshot used for the Ithaca 37 is also wrong. It shows the "Barker 1500", which is supposed to be a Remington 1100.- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 22:02, 27 September 2016 (EDT)
:Indented line Also looks to have the curved trigger guard of the Remington, I'm just going to go ahead and change it if nobody has any complaints [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]]) 06:04, 28 September 2016 (EDT)

Gotham - Season 2

2015-12-02T15:42:24Z

Sandymon: /* Remington 870 */

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|name= Gotham - Season 2
|picture = Gotham.jpg
|caption =
|country = [[File:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|channel = FOX
|genre = Crime Drama 
|Director=
|dates = 2015-16
|language = English
|episodes = ?
|character1=Det. Jim Gordon
|actor1=[[Ben McKenzie]]
|character2=Det. Harvey Bullock
|actor2=[[Donal Logue]]
|character3=Alfred Pennyworth
|actor3=[[Sean Pertwee]]
|character4=Oswald 'Penguin' Cobblepot
|actor4=[[Robin Lord Taylor]]
|character5=Bruce Wayne
|actor5=David Mazouz
}}

{{TV Title Season|2|Gotham}}

__TOC__ 

=Pistols=

==Beretta 92FS==
A Beretta 92FS is used by Officer recruit Josie Mac ([[Paulina Singer]]) as her sidearm in the season.

[[File:92FS+M9Hybrid.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Current American made Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm. Note the slanted dust cover, recurved backstrap and hex grip screws which distinguish this from earlier versions.]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Josie with the 92FS at the start of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

==Colt MK IV Series 70==
A Colt MK IV Series 70 was used by Gordon throughout "Rise of the Villains: More Than a Criminal", in particular when he uses it to execute Theo Galavan.

[[Image:Colt-MKIV-Series70.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt MK IV Series 70 (nickel finish) - .45 ACP]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon starts to threaten Theo with the pistol near the end of "Rise of the Villains: More Than a Criminal".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon aims the pistol during a standoff with Barnes.]]

==Colt MK IV Series 80==
A Colt MK IV Series 80 by Eduardo Flamingo ([[Raul Castillo]]) in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".

[[File:ColtMkIVSilver DeNiro Machete.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Custom engraved nickel plated Colt MKIV Series 80 with pearl grips - .45 ACP.]]
[[File:GothamS02E09 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|You can see the engravings on the pistol in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".]]

==IMI Desert Eagle==
The IMI Desert Eagle is used briefly by an armed man named Zaardon ([[David Fierro]]) at the start of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".

[[Image:Desert Eagle Mark XIX 357 Magnum.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Desert Eagle Mark XIX with magazine removed - .357 Magnum.]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Zaardon brandishes dual Desert Eagles at the start of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
The SIG-Sauer P226 returns to the season as the sidearm of Jim Gordon, who had been demoted to traffic duties due to the aftermath of Falcone's escape. Arnold Dobkins ([[Will Brill]]) is seen improperly handling it in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock". Nathaniel Barnes ([[Michael Chiklis]]) uses it as his main sidearm when he's assigned to the GCPD in the season. Officer recruit Sal Martinez ([[Lucas Salvagno]]) appears to use one as his sidearm in the season.

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Jim Gordon confronts an armed man in an intersection at the start of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Detective Gordon with the P226 drawn out after taking cover from sniper rifle in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkins with the P226 in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkins violating gun safety by aiming it at his chin. Since he's nuts, he just doesn't care.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome Valeska ([[Cameron Monaghan]]) aims his P226 at Commissioner Sarah Essen while disguised as a GCPD officer. You might be able to see some brass in the barrel, which indicates that it's an airsoft gun since the pistol wasn't used in the scene.]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome aims Gordon's own sidearm at him in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barnes with his P226 after he sees Jim Pike's C4 explode, killing him in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sal with the P226 at the start of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The regular P226 used by Gordon near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster". It was originally a P226R.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226R==
The SIG-Sauer P226R shows up in the season in the hands of various characters. Sometimes, they show up in continuity errors in the place of the regular P226.

[[Image:P226R.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226R - 9x19mm, updated P226 with accessory rails, now the standard production version for the P226 (IMFDB still refers to this model as the "P226R" to distinguish between newer and older models).]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Gordon shows off his P226R, which a while ago was a regular P226 in "Rise of the Villains: Damned if You Do...".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Detective Gordon with his P226R after hearing suspicious noise in "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A uniformed GCPD officers aims his sidearm at Bridget Pike near the end of the same episode.]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon aims his sidearm at Butch during an arrest in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]
[[File:GothamS02E09 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Katherine Parks ([[Ashlei Sharpe Chestnut]]) takes a firing position when assassins prepare to storm into Theo's residence in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barnes confronts Gordon with the P226R aimed at him at the end of "Rise of the Villains: More Than a Criminal".]]

==SIG-Sauer P229R==
A stainless [[SIG-Sauer P229R]] is seen wielded in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".
[[Image:SIG-SauerP229TwoTone.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229R two tone - 9x19mm. The one featured in Gotham is completely stainless.]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The stainless P229R in the hands of a dead gunman in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires the pistol at another armed hostile.]]

==SIG-Sauer GSR==
Dual stainless [[SIG-Sauer GSR]]s are used by Victor Zsasz (Anthony Carrigan) as his personal sidearms in the season.

[[Image:SIG-Sauer Revolution.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer GSR with stainless finish - .45 ACP]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Victor aims one of his pistols at Commissioner Loeb's head near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Damned if You Do...".]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the GSR aimed at Loeb's head.]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Victor fires his dual GSRs at responding GCPD officers near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force".]]

==WE Hi Capa 5.1 Dragon Type B==
Ogden Barker ([[Otto Sanchez]]) is seen using a WE Hi Capa 5.1 Dragon Type B in "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do..." as a possible substitute for a M1911A1-type pistol.

[[Image:Baby1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|WE Hi Capa 5.1 Full Metal Dragon (Type B) Black Model]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ogden Barker aims the pistol at Gordon in "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ogden is shot while holding his pistol.]]

==Taser X2 Defender==
A Taser X2 Defender pistol is used by a GCPD officer to take down Alfred non-lethally at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".]]

[[File:GothamS02E11 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The GCPD officer aims her taser pistol at Alfred at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the X2 Defender after Alfred was taken down by the taser's electrodes.]]

==Unknown==

[[File:GothamS02E01 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tabitha Galavan ([[Jessica Lucas]]) guns down Arkham Asylum guards near the end of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]

=Revolvers=

==Colt Lawman MK III==
A Colt Lawman appears to be used by Alfred Pennyworth ([[Sean Pertwee]]) near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh" when he disarms one of Jerome's men and executes him with his own weapon.

[[Image:Pix1088569000.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Lawman Mk III snubbie. 1st generation.]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alfred aims the revolver at Jerome near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh". Note the exposed cylinder.]]

==Colt Official Police==
A Colt Official Police revolver is briefly used by Evan Pike ([[Noah Robbins]]) when he's confronted by Gordon and Barnes in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".

[[Image:ColtOffPolice Stack UT.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Colt Official Police Revolver - .38 Special.]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Evan is shot by Gordon and Barnes while dropping the revolver in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]

==Colt Python==
One of the Penguin's men is seen loading a Colt Python at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".

[[Image:ColtPythonStdBarrel.jpg|thumb|325px|none|Colt Python with 4" Barrel and factory Black rubber combat grips - .357 Magnum]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Python being loaded at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

==Colt New Frontier==
A Colt New Frontier with ivory grips is seen on a frame in Captain Barnes' office in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".

[[File:512m.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt New Frontier - with Ivory grips and adjustable target sights - .45 LC]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The framed SAA behind Bullock in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 10==
A Smith & Wesson Model 10 was briefly used by Jerome Valeska and Aaron Helzinger ([[Stink Fisher]]) during the bus hijacking in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[Image:SW-M-10-Rs.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 Revolver - .38 Special, R-side]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome threatens hostages on the school bus in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aaron fires the revolver at armed officers.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome fires his revolver at Gordon.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 19==
A Smith & Wesson Model 19 is used by Detective Harvey Bullock when he returns back to the GCPD as his main sidearm in the season.

[[Image:Smith&Wesson-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose (right side).]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harvey Bullock opens fire with the revolver at Victor near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force."]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bullock aims his revolver at pantless men counting mob money at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The revolver in Bullock's right hand when he inspect an arson attack in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 28==
A [[Smith & Wesson Model 27 / 28|Smith & Wesson Model 28]] was briefly used by Jerome as part of his "magic act" during the hostage crisis near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".

[[Image:S&WModel28.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 28 .357 magnum. This essentially the same gun as the Model 27, except for a noncheckered top strap and a less high polish blued finish.]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome blows the smoke from the revolver's barrel near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
A Smith & Wesson Model 29 is seen handled by Butch Gilzean at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire". He later uses it in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" to execute Penguin's men after he was free of his brainwashing with Theo getting it from him.

[[File:Smith & Wesson Model 29-8.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 29]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Butch handles the Model 29 at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Butch raises the revolver at the Penguin at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Galavan aims the weapon at the Penguin in the same episode.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 64==
A Smith & Wesson Model 64 was briefly used by Ogden before Jim Gordon disarms him of the weapon in the middle of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...". One was provided by Theo Galavan ([[James Frain]]) to help Jerome Valeska and Robert Greenwood ([[Dustin Ybarra]]) decide on the leadership position of the Maniaxs! in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[File:SmithModel64Three.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Smith & Wesson Model 64 3" with Pachmayr grips - .38 Special]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view of Ogden aiming the Model 64.]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ogden aims the Model 64 at Jim's face.]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon aims the revolver at one of Ogden's men.]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon takes out Ogden with his own sidearm.]]

[[Image:TwoFaceS&WModel64.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 64 with 3 inch barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Theo hands the revolver to Jerome and to Robert to conduct a friendly competition of Russian roulette in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert goes first with the revolver.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome smugly aims the revolver at his right temple.]]

=Submachine Guns=

==Cobray M11/9==
A few [[MAC-10#Cobray M11/9|Cobray M11/9s]] are used by Jerome's men when they take hostages in a magic show near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".

[[Image:M11 2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Cobray M11/9 - 9x19mm. This is the semiautomatic pistol, note how the selector switch is on the opposite side of the receiver and the pins are in different places on the receiver.]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An armed man is shot by Gordon while firing the M11/9 near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
Heckler & Koch MP5A3s are used by GCPD officer recruits assigned to the anti-crime task force in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".

[[File:MP5A3 Airsoft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Airsoft replica of the Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight and Navy trigger group.]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|GCPD officer recruits load their MP5A3s in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GCPD officer recruit slaps on the MP5A3's bolt in the same episode.]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two GCPD officer recruits open fire from their Lenco Bearcat armored vehicle.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]]s are issued by the GCPD in "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force", in particular to Sal Martinez, Josie Mac, Carl Pinkney ([[Ian Quinlan]]) and Luke Garrett ([[Lenny Platt]]). A few GCPD officer recruits use them as well in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night". Some of Theo's men in "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal" are seen using them without stocks attached.

[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP5K-PDW with its extended barrel with 3 lugs & folding stock - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Brand new MP5K-PDWs are issued to new GCPD officer recruits in "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force".]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|GCPD officer recruit Sal Martinez opens fire with the MP5K at Victor.]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|GCPD officer recruits Pinkney (left) and Martinez (right) sweep a room at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GCPD officer recruit engages armed men in an ambush in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Armed men with Tabitha Galavan search a garbage yard for Alfred at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".]]

==Ingram MAC-10==
An [[MAC-10|Ingram MAC-10]] is seen with an armed man when he and his crew take hostages near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Ingram MAC-10 open bolt submachine gun - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An armed man fires the MAC-10 into the air near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".]]

==M1928 Thompson==
A [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928 Thompson]] was used by Butch Gilzean in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force" to fake an assassination attempt on Theo Galavan during a press conference.

[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" .45 ACP with 50-round drum magazine.]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Butch prepares to "open fire" at Theo Galavan in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force".]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==
An Ithaca 37 was briefly used by the Penguin at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force" during a mob meeting, later using it as his main shotgun of choice. One of his men handles it at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire". Alfred uses it when he raids Galavan's penthouse with Gordon and the others near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca Model 37 riot shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Penguin fires the shotgun at the ceiling at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the fake Penguins open fire at GCPD officers during a party near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The real Penguin aims his shotgun at Gordon and Galavan near the end of the same episode.]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ithaca 37 propped over the Penguin's right shoulder in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alfred opens fire at incoming Order of St. Duma cultists.]]

[[Image:Ithaca_m37sawedoff.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca 37 12 gauge with sawed-off stock and barrel - 12 Gauge]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Penguin's men loads the Model 37 at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

==Remington 870==
A Remington 870 was used by Aaron Helzinger & Robert Greenwood during the assault on the GCPD downtown precinct near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock". A version with a pistol grip is briefly handled by Selina Kyle ([[Camren Bicondova]]) after she disarmed one of the Pike brothers in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire". Gabriel (Alex Corrado) arms himself with one near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".

[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 Gauge.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert opens fire at stunned GCPD officers in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gabriel pleads with the Penguin to let him assassinate Galvan near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]

[[Image:Remington870PistolGrip-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870 with pistol grip - 12 Gauge.]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Selina grips the shotgun taken from one of the Pike brothers in "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

===Continuity Error===
When Robert breaks into the morgue, you can see that his shotgun has a box magazine inserted.
[[File:GothamS02E02 16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert sees the corpse of Arnold.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the shotgun in Robert's hands. You can see the box magazine on it.]]

==Sawed-off shotgun==
A sawed-off shotgun is seen briefly with Jerome Valeska in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock", but he never uses it. Selina uses one taken from her stash throughout "Rise of the Villains: By Fire". Barbara uses it in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night" before Gordon takes it.

[[Image:Stevens 311 (Sawed Off).jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stevens 311R (sawed-off) - 12 gauge]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome with the sawed-off shotgun inside the hijacked oil tanker truck in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A couple of sawed-off shotguns are seen in Selina's stash in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Selina aims the shotgun at Gordon in the middle of the same episode.]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barbara talks to Gordon while aiming the shotgun near his head in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon takes down an armed hostile in the same episode.]]

==Single Barreled Shotgun==
A Single Barreled shotgun was used briefly by Arnold Dobkins in the bus hijacking in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[Image:MontgomeryWardTxRanger.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Montgomery Ward Texas Ranger - 16 gauge. This model was also available in 12 gauge, 20 gauge and 410 gauge.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aaron fiddles with the lighter when GCPD cruisers arrive.]]

==Winchester Model 1897==
A Winchester Model 1897 was seen handled by Robert Greenwood during the bus hijacking in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[File:1897 riot gun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun - 12 gauge.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert aims the Model 1897 at the hijacked bus.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the Model 1897 during a shootout.]]

=Assault Rifles=

==AKM==
A few AKMs assault rifles were seen with armed men that ambushes the squad car transporting Barbara in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".

[[File:AKM airsoft gun.jpg|thumb|none|401px|'''Airsoft''' AKM replica]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An armed man goes down after being shot in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]

==AKMS==
A few AKMS assault rifles were seen with armed men that ambushes the squad car transporting Barbara in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".

[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An armed (and masked man) opens fire with the AKMS at GCPD officers in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]

==Olympic Arms K23B==
What appear to be Olympic Arms K23B compact carbine rifles are used are Theo Galavan's men, first seen near the end of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".

[[Image:K23B Tactical.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Olympic Arms K23B Tactical with RIS foregrip - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Theo's men stands guard with the K23B near the end of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]

=Carbines=

==M1 Carbine==
An assassin uses an M1 Carbine when engaging GCPD officers in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".

[[Image:M1 Carbine Universal.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Post-war M1 Carbine with Universal folding stock - .30 Carbine]]
[[File:GothamS02E09 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M1 Carbine fired by an armed assassin in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".]]

=Machine Guns=

==MK43 Mod 0/1==
A couple of MK43 Mod 0/1s are used by Gordon and Bullock after the abandoned bar/grill restaurant is surrounded by Zsasz's crew in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".

[[File:M60E4-mk43.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M60E4 MK43 Mod 1 machine gun with RIS foregrip and ammo belt - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon with the MK43 in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bullock and Gordon lower the MK43s after fending off an attack in the same episode.]]

=Sniper Rifles=

==Remington 700==
A Remington 700 was seen with a hunter Nygma meets in a forest in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".

[[Image:Remington-Model-700-BDL 308.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 700 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The hunter stares at the ditch in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]

==Remington 700PSS==
A Remington 700PSS was briefly used by Officer recruit Sal Martinez, but never fired in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".

[[Image:RemingtonPSS700.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington Model 700PSS .300 Win Mag with Harris bipod and Leupold Mark 4 scope]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sal scopes out the fake Penguin army near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]

==Ruger M77==
A Ruger M77 with a semi-hollow synthetic stock, picatinny rail and mountable suppressor was used by Tabitha Galavan to assassinate Arnold Dobkins in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock", serving as her main sniper rifle.

[[File:GothamS02E02 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tabitha disassembles the sniper rifle after she assassinates Arnold Dobkins in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cycling the bolt of the M77 after she gets engaged by Gordon and Bullock near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]

=Rocket Launchers=

==RPG-7==
What appears to be a [[RPG-7]] outfitted with a different buttstock and C-More sights is used by one of the Penguin's men at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".

[[File:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Airtronic RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The armed man aims the RPG-7 via iron sights at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The armed man gunned down by GCPD officers. Note the buttstock-based device and the iron sights.]]

=Grenades=

==Flashbang Grenade==
A flashbang grenade was used by the Maniaxs! when they launch an assault on the GCPD downtown precinct near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[File:GothamS02E02 13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The flashbang hurled in the office.]]

=Others=

==The Merc==
A variety of weapons are sold in ''The Merc'' store in "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".

[[File:GothamS02E05 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A variety of weapons (including a RPG-7) are seen on the aisle in "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the weapons presented in the aisle.]]

==Mr. Freeze's Freeze Gun==
The Freeze Gun used by Mr. Freeze may be based partially on the Maruzen 870 CQB airgun.

[[File:GothamS02E11 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Freeze Gun seen at the end of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Crime".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr. Freeze takes aim at his victim.]]

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|caption =
|country = [[File:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|channel = FOX
|genre = Crime Drama 
|Director=
|dates = 2015-16
|language = English
|episodes = ?
|character1=Det. Jim Gordon
|actor1=[[Ben McKenzie]]
|character2=Det. Harvey Bullock
|actor2=[[Donal Logue]]
|character3=Alfred Pennyworth
|actor3=[[Sean Pertwee]]
|character4=Oswald 'Penguin' Cobblepot
|actor4=[[Robin Lord Taylor]]
|character5=Bruce Wayne
|actor5=David Mazouz
}}

{{TV Title Season|2|Gotham}}

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=Pistols=

==Beretta 92FS==
A Beretta 92FS is used by Officer recruit Josie Mac ([[Paulina Singer]]) as her sidearm in the season.

[[File:92FS+M9Hybrid.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Current American made Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm. Note the slanted dust cover, recurved backstrap and hex grip screws which distinguish this from earlier versions.]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Josie with the 92FS at the start of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

==Colt MK IV Series 70==
A Colt MK IV Series 70 was used by Gordon throughout "Rise of the Villains: More Than a Criminal", in particular when he uses it to execute Theo Galavan.

[[Image:Colt-MKIV-Series70.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt MK IV Series 70 (nickel finish) - .45 ACP]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon starts to threaten Theo with the pistol near the end of "Rise of the Villains: More Than a Criminal".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon aims the pistol during a standoff with Barnes.]]

==Colt MK IV Series 80==
A Colt MK IV Series 80 by Eduardo Flamingo ([[Raul Castillo]]) in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".

[[File:ColtMkIVSilver DeNiro Machete.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Custom engraved nickel plated Colt MKIV Series 80 with pearl grips - .45 ACP.]]
[[File:GothamS02E09 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|You can see the engravings on the pistol in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".]]

==IMI Desert Eagle==
The IMI Desert Eagle is used briefly by an armed man named Zaardon ([[David Fierro]]) at the start of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".

[[Image:Desert Eagle Mark XIX 357 Magnum.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Desert Eagle Mark XIX with magazine removed - .357 Magnum.]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Zaardon brandishes dual Desert Eagles at the start of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
The SIG-Sauer P226 returns to the season as the sidearm of Jim Gordon, who had been demoted to traffic duties due to the aftermath of Falcone's escape. Arnold Dobkins ([[Will Brill]]) is seen improperly handling it in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock". Nathaniel Barnes ([[Michael Chiklis]]) uses it as his main sidearm when he's assigned to the GCPD in the season. Officer recruit Sal Martinez ([[Lucas Salvagno]]) appears to use one as his sidearm in the season.

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Jim Gordon confronts an armed man in an intersection at the start of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Detective Gordon with the P226 drawn out after taking cover from sniper rifle in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkins with the P226 in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dobkins violating gun safety by aiming it at his chin. Since he's nuts, he just doesn't care.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome Valeska ([[Cameron Monaghan]]) aims his P226 at Commissioner Sarah Essen while disguised as a GCPD officer. You might be able to see some brass in the barrel, which indicates that it's an airsoft gun since the pistol wasn't used in the scene.]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome aims Gordon's own sidearm at him in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barnes with his P226 after he sees Jim Pike's C4 explode, killing him in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sal with the P226 at the start of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The regular P226 used by Gordon near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster". It was originally a P226R.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226R==
The SIG-Sauer P226R shows up in the season in the hands of various characters. Sometimes, they show up in continuity errors in the place of the regular P226.

[[Image:P226R.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226R - 9x19mm, updated P226 with accessory rails, now the standard production version for the P226 (IMFDB still refers to this model as the "P226R" to distinguish between newer and older models).]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Gordon shows off his P226R, which a while ago was a regular P226 in "Rise of the Villains: Damned if You Do...".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Detective Gordon with his P226R after hearing suspicious noise in "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A uniformed GCPD officers aims his sidearm at Bridget Pike near the end of the same episode.]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon aims his sidearm at Butch during an arrest in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]
[[File:GothamS02E09 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Katherine Parks ([[Ashlei Sharpe Chestnut]]) takes a firing position when assassins prepare to storm into Theo's residence in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barnes confronts Gordon with the P226R aimed at him at the end of "Rise of the Villains: More Than a Criminal".]]

==SIG-Sauer P229R==
A stainless [[SIG-Sauer P229R]] is seen wielded in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".
[[Image:SIG-SauerP229TwoTone.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229R two tone - 9x19mm. The one featured in Gotham is completely stainless.]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The stainless P229R in the hands of a dead gunman in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires the pistol at another armed hostile.]]

==SIG-Sauer GSR==
Dual stainless [[SIG-Sauer GSR]]s are used by Victor Zsasz (Anthony Carrigan) as his personal sidearms in the season.

[[Image:SIG-Sauer Revolution.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer GSR with stainless finish - .45 ACP]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Victor aims one of his pistols at Commissioner Loeb's head near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Damned if You Do...".]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the GSR aimed at Loeb's head.]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Victor fires his dual GSRs at responding GCPD officers near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force".]]

==WE Hi Capa 5.1 Dragon Type B==
Ogden Barker ([[Otto Sanchez]]) is seen using a WE Hi Capa 5.1 Dragon Type B in "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do..." as a possible substitute for a M1911A1-type pistol.

[[Image:Baby1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|WE Hi Capa 5.1 Full Metal Dragon (Type B) Black Model]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ogden Barker aims the pistol at Gordon in "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ogden is shot while holding his pistol.]]

==Taser X2 Defender==
A Taser X2 Defender pistol is used by a GCPD officer to take down Alfred non-lethally at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".]]

[[File:GothamS02E11 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The GCPD officer aims her taser pistol at Alfred at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the X2 Defender after Alfred was taken down by the taser's electrodes.]]

==Unknown==

[[File:GothamS02E01 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tabitha Galavan ([[Jessica Lucas]]) guns down Arkham Asylum guards near the end of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]

=Revolvers=

==Colt Lawman MK III==
A Colt Lawman appears to be used by Alfred Pennyworth ([[Sean Pertwee]]) near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh" when he disarms one of Jerome's men and executes him with his own weapon.

[[Image:Pix1088569000.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Lawman Mk III snubbie. 1st generation.]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alfred aims the revolver at Jerome near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh". Note the exposed cylinder.]]

==Colt Official Police==
A Colt Official Police revolver is briefly used by Evan Pike ([[Noah Robbins]]) when he's confronted by Gordon and Barnes in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".

[[Image:ColtOffPolice Stack UT.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Colt Official Police Revolver - .38 Special.]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Evan is shot by Gordon and Barnes while dropping the revolver in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]

==Colt Python==
One of the Penguin's men is seen loading a Colt Python at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".

[[Image:ColtPythonStdBarrel.jpg|thumb|325px|none|Colt Python with 4" Barrel and factory Black rubber combat grips - .357 Magnum]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Python being loaded at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

==Colt New Frontier==
A Colt New Frontier with ivory grips is seen on a frame in Captain Barnes' office in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".

[[File:512m.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt New Frontier - with Ivory grips and adjustable target sights - .45 LC]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The framed SAA behind Bullock in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 10==
A Smith & Wesson Model 10 was briefly used by Jerome Valeska and Aaron Helzinger ([[Stink Fisher]]) during the bus hijacking in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[Image:SW-M-10-Rs.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 Revolver - .38 Special, R-side]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome threatens hostages on the school bus in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aaron fires the revolver at armed officers.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome fires his revolver at Gordon.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 19==
A Smith & Wesson Model 19 is used by Detective Harvey Bullock when he returns back to the GCPD as his main sidearm in the season.

[[Image:Smith&Wesson-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose (right side).]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harvey Bullock opens fire with the revolver at Victor near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force."]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bullock aims his revolver at pantless men counting mob money at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The revolver in Bullock's right hand when he inspect an arson attack in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 28==
A [[Smith & Wesson Model 27 / 28|Smith & Wesson Model 28]] was briefly used by Jerome as part of his "magic act" during the hostage crisis near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".

[[Image:S&WModel28.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 28 .357 magnum. This essentially the same gun as the Model 27, except for a noncheckered top strap and a less high polish blued finish.]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome blows the smoke from the revolver's barrel near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
A Smith & Wesson Model 29 is seen handled by Butch Gilzean at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire". He later uses it in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster" to execute Penguin's men after he was free of his brainwashing with Theo getting it from him.

[[File:Smith & Wesson Model 29-8.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 29]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Butch handles the Model 29 at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Butch raises the revolver at the Penguin at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Galavan aims the weapon at the Penguin in the same episode.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 64==
A Smith & Wesson Model 64 was briefly used by Ogden before Jim Gordon disarms him of the weapon in the middle of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...". One was provided by Theo Galavan ([[James Frain]]) to help Jerome Valeska and Robert Greenwood ([[Dustin Ybarra]]) decide on the leadership position of the Maniaxs! in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[File:SmithModel64Three.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Smith & Wesson Model 64 3" with Pachmayr grips - .38 Special]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view of Ogden aiming the Model 64.]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ogden aims the Model 64 at Jim's face.]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon aims the revolver at one of Ogden's men.]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon takes out Ogden with his own sidearm.]]

[[Image:TwoFaceS&WModel64.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 64 with 3 inch barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Theo hands the revolver to Jerome and to Robert to conduct a friendly competition of Russian roulette in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert goes first with the revolver.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome smugly aims the revolver at his right temple.]]

=Submachine Guns=

==Cobray M11/9==
A few [[MAC-10#Cobray M11/9|Cobray M11/9s]] are used by Jerome's men when they take hostages in a magic show near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".

[[Image:M11 2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Cobray M11/9 - 9x19mm. This is the semiautomatic pistol, note how the selector switch is on the opposite side of the receiver and the pins are in different places on the receiver.]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An armed man is shot by Gordon while firing the M11/9 near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
Heckler & Koch MP5A3s are used by GCPD officer recruits assigned to the anti-crime task force in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".

[[File:MP5A3 Airsoft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Airsoft replica of the Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight and Navy trigger group.]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|GCPD officer recruits load their MP5A3s in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GCPD officer recruit slaps on the MP5A3's bolt in the same episode.]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two GCPD officer recruits open fire from their Lenco Bearcat armored vehicle.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]]s are issued by the GCPD in "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force", in particular to Sal Martinez, Josie Mac, Carl Pinkney ([[Ian Quinlan]]) and Luke Garrett ([[Lenny Platt]]). A few GCPD officer recruits use them as well in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night". Some of Theo's men in "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal" are seen using them without stocks attached.

[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP5K-PDW with its extended barrel with 3 lugs & folding stock - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Brand new MP5K-PDWs are issued to new GCPD officer recruits in "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force".]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|GCPD officer recruit Sal Martinez opens fire with the MP5K at Victor.]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|GCPD officer recruits Pinkney (left) and Martinez (right) sweep a room at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GCPD officer recruit engages armed men in an ambush in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Armed men with Tabitha Galavan search a garbage yard for Alfred at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".]]

==Ingram MAC-10==
An [[MAC-10|Ingram MAC-10]] is seen with an armed man when he and his crew take hostages near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Ingram MAC-10 open bolt submachine gun - 9x19mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E03 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An armed man fires the MAC-10 into the air near the end of "Rise of the Villains: The Last Laugh".]]

==M1928 Thompson==
A [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928 Thompson]] was used by Butch Gilzean in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force" to fake an assassination attempt on Theo Galavan during a press conference.

[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" .45 ACP with 50-round drum magazine.]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Butch prepares to "open fire" at Theo Galavan in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force".]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==
An Ithaca 37 was briefly used by the Penguin at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force" during a mob meeting, later using it as his main shotgun of choice. One of his men handles it at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire". Alfred uses it when he raids Galavan's penthouse with Gordon and the others near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca Model 37 riot shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[File:GothamS02E04 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Penguin fires the shotgun at the ceiling at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Strike Force".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the fake Penguins open fire at GCPD officers during a party near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The real Penguin aims his shotgun at Gordon and Galavan near the end of the same episode.]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ithaca 37 propped over the Penguin's right shoulder in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Criminal".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alfred opens fire at incoming Order of St. Duma cultists.]]

[[Image:Ithaca_m37sawedoff.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca 37 12 gauge with sawed-off stock and barrel - 12 Gauge]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Penguin's men loads the Model 37 at the end of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

==Remington 870==
A Remington 870 was used by Aaron Helzinger & Robert Greenwood during the assault on the GCPD downtown prescient near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock". A version with a pistol grip is briefly handled by Selina Kyle ([[Camren Bicondova]]) after she disarmed one of the Pike brothers in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire". Gabriel (Alex Corrado) arms himself with one near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".

[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 Gauge.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert opens fire at stunned GCPD officers in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gabriel pleads with the Penguin to let him assassinate Galvan near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]

[[Image:Remington870PistolGrip-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870 with pistol grip - 12 Gauge.]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Selina grips the shotgun taken from one of the Pike brothers in "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]

===Continuity Error===
When Robert breaks into the morgue, you can see that his shotgun has a box magazine inserted.
[[File:GothamS02E02 16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert sees the corpse of Arnold.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the shotgun in Robert's hands. You can see the box magazine on it.]]

==Sawed-off shotgun==
A sawed-off shotgun is seen briefly with Jerome Valeska in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock", but he never uses it. Selina uses one taken from her stash throughout "Rise of the Villains: By Fire". Barbara uses it in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night" before Gordon takes it.

[[Image:Stevens 311 (Sawed Off).jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stevens 311R (sawed-off) - 12 gauge]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jerome with the sawed-off shotgun inside the hijacked oil tanker truck in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A couple of sawed-off shotguns are seen in Selina's stash in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: By Fire".]]
[[File:GothamS02E06 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Selina aims the shotgun at Gordon in the middle of the same episode.]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barbara talks to Gordon while aiming the shotgun near his head in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon takes down an armed hostile in the same episode.]]

==Single Barreled Shotgun==
A Single Barreled shotgun was used briefly by Arnold Dobkins in the bus hijacking in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[Image:MontgomeryWardTxRanger.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Montgomery Ward Texas Ranger - 16 gauge. This model was also available in 12 gauge, 20 gauge and 410 gauge.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aaron fiddles with the lighter when GCPD cruisers arrive.]]

==Winchester Model 1897==
A Winchester Model 1897 was seen handled by Robert Greenwood during the bus hijacking in the middle of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[File:1897 riot gun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun - 12 gauge.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert aims the Model 1897 at the hijacked bus.]]
[[File:GothamS02E02 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the Model 1897 during a shootout.]]

=Assault Rifles=

==AKM==
A few AKMs assault rifles were seen with armed men that ambushes the squad car transporting Barbara in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".

[[File:AKM airsoft gun.jpg|thumb|none|401px|'''Airsoft''' AKM replica]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An armed man goes down after being shot in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]

==AKMS==
A few AKMS assault rifles were seen with armed men that ambushes the squad car transporting Barbara in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".

[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An armed (and masked man) opens fire with the AKMS at GCPD officers in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]

==Olympic Arms K23B==
What appear to be Olympic Arms K23B compact carbine rifles are used are Theo Galavan's men, first seen near the end of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".

[[Image:K23B Tactical.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Olympic Arms K23B Tactical with RIS foregrip - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E01 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Theo's men stands guard with the K23B near the end of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".]]

=Carbines=

==M1 Carbine==
An assassin uses an M1 Carbine when engaging GCPD officers in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".

[[Image:M1 Carbine Universal.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Post-war M1 Carbine with Universal folding stock - .30 Carbine]]
[[File:GothamS02E09 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M1 Carbine fired by an armed assassin in "Rise of the Villains: A Bitter Pill to Swallow".]]

=Machine Guns=

==MK43 Mod 0/1==
A couple of MK43 Mod 0/1s are used by Gordon and Bullock after the abandoned bar/grill restaurant is surrounded by Zsasz's crew in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".

[[File:M60E4-mk43.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M60E4 MK43 Mod 1 machine gun with RIS foregrip and ammo belt - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon with the MK43 in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bullock and Gordon lower the MK43s after fending off an attack in the same episode.]]

=Sniper Rifles=

==Remington 700==
A Remington 700 was seen with a hunter Nygma meets in a forest in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".

[[Image:Remington-Model-700-BDL 308.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 700 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:GothamS02E08 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The hunter stares at the ditch in "Rise of the Villains: Tonight's the Night".]]

==Remington 700PSS==
A Remington 700PSS was briefly used by Officer recruit Sal Martinez, but never fired in "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".

[[Image:RemingtonPSS700.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington Model 700PSS .300 Win Mag with Harris bipod and Leupold Mark 4 scope]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sal scopes out the fake Penguin army near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]

==Ruger M77==
A Ruger M77 with a semi-hollow synthetic stock, picatinny rail and mountable suppressor was used by Tabitha Galavan to assassinate Arnold Dobkins in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock", serving as her main sniper rifle.

[[File:GothamS02E02 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tabitha disassembles the sniper rifle after she assassinates Arnold Dobkins in "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".]]
[[File:GothamS02E07 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cycling the bolt of the M77 after she gets engaged by Gordon and Bullock near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Mommy's Little Monster".]]

=Rocket Launchers=

==RPG-7==
What appears to be a [[RPG-7]] outfitted with a different buttstock and C-More sights is used by one of the Penguin's men at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".

[[File:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Airtronic RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The armed man aims the RPG-7 via iron sights at the start of "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The armed man gunned down by GCPD officers. Note the buttstock-based device and the iron sights.]]

=Grenades=

==Flashbang Grenade==
A flashbang grenade was used by the Maniaxs! when they launch an assault on the GCPD downtown precinct near the end of "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock".

[[File:GothamS02E02 13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The flashbang hurled in the office.]]

=Others=

==The Merc==
A variety of weapons are sold in ''The Merc'' store in "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".

[[File:GothamS02E05 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A variety of weapons (including a RPG-7) are seen on the aisle in "Rise of the Villains: Scarification".]]
[[File:GothamS02E05 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the weapons presented in the aisle.]]

==Mr. Freeze's Freeze Gun==
The Freeze Gun used by Mr. Freeze may be based partially on the Maruzen 870 CQB airgun.

[[File:GothamS02E11 00.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Freeze Gun seen at the end of "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than a Crime".]]
[[File:GothamS02E11 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr. Freeze takes aim at his victim.]]

{{Batman Series}}

[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Detective]]
[[Category:Drama]]
[[Category:Mystery]]
[[Category:Television]]

Lawrence of Arabia

2015-11-11T22:21:16Z

Sandymon: /* Vickers Gun */

{{Infobox Movie
|name = Lawrence of Arabia
|picture = Lawr5.jpg
|caption = ''Movie poster''
|country = [[Image:UKD.jpg|25px]] UK
|director = [[David Lean]]
|date= 1962
|language = English Arabic Turkish
|studio=Horizon Pictures
|distributor=Columbia Pictures
|character1=T.E. Lawrence
|actor1=[[Peter O'Toole]]
|character2=Prince Feisal
|actor2=[[Alec Guinness]]
|character3=Auda Abu Tayi
|actor3=[[Anthony Quinn]]
|character4=General Allenby
|actor4=[[Jack Hawkins]]
|character5=Sherif Ali
|actor5=[[Omar Sharif]]
|character6=Turkish Bey
|actor6=[[José Ferrer]]
|character7=Colonel Brighton
|actor7=[[Anthony Quayle]]
|character8=Jackson Bentley
|actor8=[[Arthur Kennedy]]
|character9=
|actor9=
|character10=
|actor10=
}}

'''''Lawrence of Arabia''''' is the 1962 epic directed by [[David Lean]] and starring [[Peter O'Toole]] as T.E. Lawrence.

{{Film Title}}

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=Handguns=
== Webley Mk.VI ==
The British [[Webley Mk VI]] revolver is the main weapon of Major T.E. Lawrence ([[Peter O'Toole]]) throughout the film. Tafas ([[Zia Mohyeddin]]), Sherif Ali ([[Omar Sharif]]) and Auda abu Tayi ([[Anthony Quinn]]) also are seen with the Webley Mk VI.
[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Webley Mk. VI]]
[[Image:LOAwebley.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lawrence tosses his Webley Mk.VI aside when he rests.]]
[[Image:LOAwebley2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lawrence ([[Peter O'Toole]]) offers his Webley Mk. VI as a gift to Tafas ([[Zia Mohyeddin]]), who hesitantly accepts it.]]
[[Image:LOAwebley12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lawrence uses his Webley during a confrontation with Gasim.]]
[[Image:LOAwebley19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lawrence is caught up in a bloodlust and slaughters retreating Turks with his [[Webley Mk VI]].]]
[[Image:LOAwebley22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lawrence furiously breaks open his Webley Mk.VI after he empties it on the Turks.]]

== Mauser C96 ==
The German [[Mauser C96]] is the weapon used by the Turkish officer to wound Lawrence during the takeover of the train. These guns can be seen in the hands of other characters, including the Turkish Bey ([[José Ferrer]]) while in Deraa. Several Turkish officers during the attack on Aqaba can be seen using unidentified revolvers.
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mauser C96]]
[[Image:LOAc962.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Turkish officer opens fire with his Mauser during the attack.]]
[[Image:LOAc965.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shellshocked Turkish officer shoots at Lawrence repeatedly, but is too disoriented to make a proper shot.]]

=Rifles & Muskets=
== Lee-Enfield SMLE ==
The [[Lee-Enfield SMLE]] rifle is used by the Arabs and British throughout the movie. Turkish soldiers also use these weapons in several scenes, interchanging with Mausers, presumably depending on what country the scenes were shot in (Jordan, Spain or Morocco) and the availability of the rifles. While likely not intentional, this is not entirely inaccurate as the Turks did re-issue the SMLEs captured at Gallipoli.
[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|SMLE]]
[[Image:LOAenfield7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two of Lawrence's men with Lee-Enfields]]
[[Image:LOAenfield18.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Turkish soldiers armed with Lee-Enfields kill the bloodthirsty Talal.]]
[[Image:LOAenfield19.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:LOAenfield22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|British Soldiers armed with Lee-Enfields.]]

==Mauser M43==
The Turkish army uses the [[Mauser Rifle Series|Spanish Mauser M43]] rifle in the film in place of the issued Turkish M1903, likely as this movie was filmed in Spain.
[[Image:Mauser m43.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser M43 - 8 x 57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:LOAg983.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Next to Lawrence ([[Peter O'Toole]]), Mauser M43 rifles are seen.]]
[[Image:LOAg987.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Retreating Turkish column, armed with Mausers]]
[[Image:LOAg988.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Good detail on the M43, notice finger grooves and sling bar on butt]]
[[Image:LOAg989.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Jezail Musket ==
Several of Lawrence's bodyguards towards the end of the film are armed with some type of [[Jezail musket]], a commonly used musket (notable for its rounded, forked stock and long barrel) found in the Middle East. They can be found with all types of muzzle-loading ignition - matchlock, flintlock (often Snaphaunce or Miquelet), and percussion.
[[Image:jezail1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Jezail musket]]
[[Image:LOAjezzail.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:LOAjezzail3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A bodyguard holds the Jezail.]]
[[Image:LOAjezzail4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jezail muskets are seen in the hands of the bodyguards.]]
[[Image:LOAjezzail5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Jezails are seen.]]

=Machine Guns=
== Browning M1919A4 ==
[[Browning M1919A4]] machine guns are seen used by the Turks in the first train attack scene. This is an anachronism since the movie takes place from 1916 to 1918.
[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M1919A4 - .30-06]]
[[Image:LOA1919.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Turks are overrun by Lawrence's Arabs.]]
[[Image:LOAvickers5.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

== M1914 Hotchkiss ==
The Turks are seen deploying a French [[M1914 Hotchkiss]] machine gun when Lawrence and the Arabs attack the retreating Turk column.
[[Image:M1914Hotchkiss.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Hotchkiss]]
[[Image:LOAhotchkiss.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:LOAhotchkiss2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:LOAhotchkiss3.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

== Vickers Gun ==
The Arabs use the [[Vickers Gun]] when they assault the trains. Interestingly, Lawrence asks General Allenby earlier in the film for instructors for the Lewis guns he had requested, it seems he was provided with the Vickers' instead, at least as far as the film shows.
[[Image:VickersMk1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vickers]]
[[Image:LOAvickers.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Arab manning a Vickers Gun during the attack.]]
[[Image:LOAarmoredcar4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Vickers Gun is fired from armored car.]]
[[Image:Vickers gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Vickers with ribbed water jacket.]]
[[Image:LOAvickers2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Arabs open fire with the Vickers with a ribbed water jacket.]]
[[Image:LOAvickers3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vickers with a ribbed water jacket is fired by the Arabs.]]

=Other=
== Webley & Scott Signal Pistol ==
Lawrence ([[Peter O'Toole]]) and Col. Harry Brighton ([[Anthony Quayle]]) both use a [[Webley & Scott Signal Pistols | Webley & Scott Signal Pistol]] over the course of the movie.
[[Image:Webley Signal Pistol.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Webley Signal Pistol of WWI]]
[[Image:LOAflare.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lawrence use a [[Webley & Scott Signal Pistols | Webley & Scott Signal Pistol]] to fire off a flare to signal the Arabs to stop shooting.]]
[[Image:LOAflare2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Harry Brighton ([[Anthony Quayle]]) fires off a flare with a [[Webley & Scott Signal Pistols | Webley & Scott Signal Pistol]].]]

== Howitzer ==
The retreating Turkish column tow a Howitzer (possibly a French 75 or a German 77) along with them.
[[Image:LOAarty.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:LOAarty2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Sea Battery==
Lawrence and the Arabs conquer Aqaba to eliminate the threat to supply ships, that the sea batteries possesses. Mentioned earlier in the film by Brighton as being 12-inch guns, they are non-firing mock-ups.
[[Image:LOAseabattery.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The sea battery is seen.]]

=Weapons Platforms=

===Turk Fighter Plane===

The Turkish planes used in the raid on Feisal's camp appear to be disguised De Havilland Tiger Moths, a biplane used by the British Royal Air Force from 1932 to 1959, and the default biplane for British movies.
[[Image:LOAbiplane.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:LOAbiplane2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

===Rolls Royce Whippet Armored Car===
'''Vickers Mk.1'''
[[Image:LOAarmoredcar2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:LOAarmoredcar3.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:War]]
[[Category:Biographical Movie]]
[[Category:British Produced/Filmed]]
[[Category:David Lean]]
[[Category:National Film Registry]]
[[Category:Academy Award Best Picture]]

Justified - Season 4

2015-11-08T23:20:35Z

Sandymon: /* Remington 700SPS Tactical */

{{Infobox TV|{{PAGENAME}}
|picture = JustS4.jpg
|country = [[File:USA.jpg|25px]] USA
|channel = FX
|genre = Crime
|dates = 2013
|episodes = 13
|character1= Raylan Givens
|actor1=[[Timothy Olyphant]]
|character2= Boyd Crowder
|actor2=[[Walton Goggins]]
|character3= Ava Crowder
|actor3=[[Joelle Carter]]
|character4= Chief Art Mullen
|actor4=[[Nick Searcy]]
|character5=Tim Gutterson
|actor5=[[Jacob Pitts]]
|character6= Rachel Brooks
|actor6=[[Erica Tazel]]
|character7= Shelby Parlow
|actor7=[[Jim Beaver]]
|character8=Bob Sweeney
|actor8=[[Patton Oswalt]]
}}

'''The following weapons were used in Season 4 of the series ''[[Justified]]'':'''
__TOC__ 

{{Spoilers}}
=Pistols=

==Glock 17==
Deputy US Marshal Raylan Givens ([[Timothy Olyphant]]) and other US Marshals in the series carry the full size [[Glock 17]] as their sidearms, including Chief Deputy Art Mullen ([[Nick Searcy]]). In "Truth and Consequences" (S4E03), FBI Special Agent Alex Barnes ([[Josh Stamberg]]) is seen pulling out his Glock 17 when he's confronted by Raylan.

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Generation 3 Glock 17 9x19mm. Note the finger grooves, thumb reliefs, and accessory rail on the frame, which differentiate it from the older model.]]
[[File:JustS4E02 13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deputy US Marshal Raylan Givens ([[Timothy Olyphant]]) draws his Glock during a standoff in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).]]
[[File:Justified S4E03 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Truth and Consequences" (S4E03), FBI Special Agent Alex Barnes ([[Josh Stamberg]]) is seen pulling out his Glock 17 when he's confronted by Raylan.]]
[[File:JustS4E07_111.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raylan draws his Glock during a showdown with Jody Adair in "The Money Trap" (S4E07).]]
[[File:JustifiedS4E08-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Raylan firing his Glock in "Outlaw" (S4E08).]]
[[File:JustifiedS4E08-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raylan holds his Glock after a shootout with an hitman in "Outlaw" (S4E08).]]
[[File:JustS4E09_16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raylan draws his Glock in "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09).]]
[[File:JustS4E10_08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chief Deputy Art Mullen ([[Nick Searcy]]) draws his Glock in "Get Drew" (S4E10).]]

==Glock 19==
Deputy US Marshal Tim Gutterson ([[Jacob Pitts]]) now appears to carry a [[Glock 19]] as his onduty sidearm in Season 4. He notably draws his Glock in two confrontations with Colton Rhodes in "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E10) and in "Peace of Mind" (S4E12).
[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:JustS4E09_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In a confrontation with Colton Rhodes, Deputy Marshal Tim Gutterson ([[Jacob Pitts]]) pulls his Glock on Colton in "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09).]]
[[File:JustS4E12_23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deputy Marshal Tim Gutterson ([[Jacob Pitts]]) draws his Glock in "Peace of Mind" (S4E12).]]

==Glock 26==
The [[Glock 26]] appears in the series mainly as the sidearm carried by Deputy Marshal Rachel Brooks ([[Erica Tazel]]). The [[Glock 26]] also is the pistol Raylan keeps as his backup as well. In "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), Raylan pulls his Glock 26 when confronting Jody Adair (this pistol appears to be an airsoft replica). The same pistol appears to be pulled by Tim Gutterson in "Foot Chase" (S4E06). Raylan mentions that he's carrying a Glock 26 in "Ghosts" (S4E13).
[[Image:Glock 26.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Glock 26 subcompact Pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[File:JustS4E01_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), Raylan pulls his Glock 26 when confronting Jody Adair ([[Chris Chalk]]).]]
[[File:Justified S4E06_08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Glock 26 appears to be pulled by Tim Gutterson in "Foot Chase" (S4E06).]]

==Beretta 92FS==
The [[Beretta 92FS]] is used by several characters in Season 4, notably Boyd Crowder ([[Walton Goggins]]). In "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), a [[Beretta 92FS]] is used by Benny ([[Casey Brown]]) while in a confrontation with Raylan. Boyd is seen pulling it in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:JustS4E02_24.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02), the [[Beretta 92FS]] is pulled by Boyd Crowder ([[Walton Goggins]]).]]
[[File:JustS4E01_09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), a [[Beretta 92FS]] is used by Benny ([[Casey Brown]]) while in a confrontation with Raylan.]]
[[File:JustS4E09_20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sheriff Shelby Parlow ([[Jim Beaver]]) holds a Beretta (with the safety on) in "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09). The pistol's barrel appears to be too short for a 92FS, but it's possible that this pistol is an airsoft replica with the orange safety cap filed off.]]
[[File:JustS4E13 15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The [[Beretta 92FS]] is drawn by Deputy Sheriff Nick Mooney ([[William Gregory Lee]]) in the Season 4 finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).]]

== Beretta 92FS Inox ==
The [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] also is used by several characters in Season 4. A [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS Inox|Beretta 92FS Inox]] is pulled by Jody Adair ([[Chris Chalk]]) in "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01). Jimmy ([[Jesse Luken]]) is seen pulling an Inox in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02). One of Nicky Augustine's thugs threatens Raylan and Winona with the Inox in Season 4's finale "Ghosts" (S4E13). Raylan later uses the pistol and correctly identifies it as a Beretta to Nicky later in the episode.
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS Inox - 9x19mm]]
[[File:JustS4E01_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), the [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS Inox|Beretta 92FS Inox]] is pulled by Jody Adair ([[Chris Chalk]]).]]
[[File:JustS4E02_26.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02), the [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS Inox|Beretta 92FS Inox]] is pulled by Jimmy ([[Jesse Luken]]).]]
[[File:JustS4E13 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On the right, Raylan holds the Inox in Season 4's finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).]]

==Beretta 8045 Cougar==
Sheriff Shelby Parlow ([[Jim Beaver]]) appears to carry a [[Beretta Cougar]] as his sidearm in Season 4. He fires the pistol in "Foot Chase" (S4E06).
[[Image:Beretta8045.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 8045 Cougar F - .45 ACP]]
[[File:JustS4E06_06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sheriff Shelby Parlow ([[Jim Beaver]]) appears to fire a [[Beretta Cougar]] in "Foot Chase" (S4E06).]]

==Beretta Cougar (HFC M800 Replica)==
In "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02), Mike (Jonathan Kowalsky), Wynn Duffy's bodyguard, appears to pull a [[Beretta Cougar]]. Upon closer inspection, this appears to be an HFC M800, an airsoft pistol modeled after the Cougar.
[[File:HFCM800.jpg|thumb|300px|none|HFC M800 Airsoft Replica]]
[[File:JustS4E02 23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On the left, Mike (Jonathan Kowalsky), Wynn Duffy's bodyguard, appears to pull what appears to be an HFC M800, an airsoft pistol modeled after the Cougar. in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).]]

==Beretta Px4 Storm==
The [[Beretta Px4 Storm]] is carried by Nicky Augustine ([[Mike O'Malley]]) in "Decoy" (S4E11). Ava later takes up the pistol in the episode.
[[Image:Px4 Storm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta Px4 Storm - 9x19mm]]
[[File:JustS4E11_15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the [[Beretta Px4 Storm]] carried by Nicky Augustine ([[Mike O'Malley]]) in "Decoy" (S4E11).]]
[[File:JustS4E11_18.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ava ([[Joelle Carter]]) holds the [[Beretta Px4 Storm]] in "Decoy" (S4E11).]]

==EKOL Grizzly Special 99==
In "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), what appears to be a small compact pistol is pulled by the scrapyard operator while threatening Constable Bob Sweeney ([[Patton Oswalt]]). Upon closer inspection, the pistol appears to be an [[EKOL]] Grizzly Special 99, a blank-firing handgun. This pistol apparently was in Sweeney's "go-bag". Sweeney uses the pistol while in a shootout in "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09). In "Foot Chase" (S4E06), what appears to be a nickel [[Beretta 85F]] is pulled by a drug dealer. In reality, this is a nickel model of the EKOL. This pistol is later seen in the hands of Colton Rhodes ([[Ron Eldard]]) in "Outlaw" (S4E08).
[[File:EKOL Grizz99B.jpg|thumb|none|300px|EKOL Grizzly Special 99 - 9mm Blank Fire Only]]
[[File:JustS4E01_12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), an EKOL pistol is pulled by the scrapyard operator while threatening Constable Bob Sweeney ([[Patton Oswalt]]).]]
[[File:JustS4E09_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Constable Bob Sweeney ([[Patton Oswalt]]) draws the pistol in "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09). The "EKOL" is visible on the slide.]]
[[File:EKOL_Spec_Silver.jpg|thumb|none|300px|EKOL Grizzly Special 99 (Nickel) - 9mm Blank Fire Only]]
[[File:JustS4E06_09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Foot Chase" (S4E06), what appears to be a nickel [[Beretta 85F]] is pulled by a drug dealer. In reality, this is a nickel model of the EKOL.]]
[[File:JustS4E06_11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Foot Chase" (S4E06), the EKOL is seen.]]
[[File:JustS4E08_213.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This pistol is later seen in "Outlaw" (S4E08).]]
[[File:JustS4E08_511.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Colton Rhodes ([[Ron Eldard]]) holds the pistol in "Outlaw" (S4E08).]]

==Colt M1911A1==
The [[M1911A1]] is the sidearm carried by Colton Rhodes ([[Ron Eldard]]) in Season 4. In "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), Boyd Crowder is seen giving the [[M1911A1]] to Colton Rhodes ([[Ron Eldard]]). He later uses the handgun throughout the season to pistol-whip several people and then holds it during several confrontations with Shelby and Deputy Gutterson.
[[File:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[File:JustS4E01_14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), Boyd Crowder is seen giving an [[M1911A1]] to Colton Rhodes ([[Ron Eldard]]).]]
[[File:JustS4E02 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02), a heroin dealer is threatened with the [[M1911A1]] held by Colton Rhodes ([[Ron Eldard]]).]]
[[File:JustS4E10_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Get Drew" (S4E10), Colton uses his pistol to threaten Shelby.]]

==Colt M1911A1 (Nickel Replica)==
Picker ([[John Kapelos]]) carries a nickel [[M1911A1]] as his sidearm in "Decoy" (S4E11) and in "Peace of Mind" (S4E12). Upon closer inspection, this pistol is likely an airsoft replica.
[[File:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nickel M1911A1]]
[[File:JustS4E11_19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the nickel [[M1911A1]] carried by Picker ([[John Kapelos]]) in "Decoy" (S4E11).]]
[[File:JustS4E12_09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Picker ([[John Kapelos]]) pulls the nickel [[M1911A1]] in "Peace of Mind" (S4E12).]]

==Heckler & Koch USP==
In "Money Trap" (S4E07), a [[Heckler & Koch USP]] is seen in the hands of Jody Adair ([[Chris Chalk]]) after taking it off a bail bondsman.
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch USP 9x19mm]]
[[File:JustS4E07_502.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "Money Trap" (S4E07), a [[Heckler & Koch USP]] is seen in the hands of Jody Adair ([[Chris Chalk]]).]]

==SIG-Sauer P226R==
In "Kin" (S4E05), Nicky Augustine ([[Mike O'Malley]]) appears to pull a [[SIG-Sauer P226]]R. In "Decoy" (S4E11), a thug named "YOLO" also has a SIG that is later used by Bob ([[Patton Oswalt]]). In "Ghosts" (S4E13), one of Theo Tonin's thugs uses a SIG to threaten Winona ([[Natalie Zea]]).
[[Image:P226R.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226R - 9mm.]]
[[File:JustS4E05 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Kin" (S4E05), Nicky Augustine ([[Mike O'Malley]]) appears to pull a [[SIG-Sauer P226]]R.]]
[[File:JustS4E11_27.jpg|thumb|none|600px| In "Decoy" (S4E11), a SIG is held by Bob ([[Patton Oswalt]]).]]
[[File:JustS4E13_06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Ghosts" (S4E13), a SIG is used to threaten Winona ([[Natalie Zea]]).]]

==TSD Caspian WE Hi-Capa Airsoft==
In "Outlaw" (S4E08), a Detroit hitman ([[Matthew John Armstrong]]) disguised as a Harlan County deputy uses a small compact pistol that resembles a [[Colt Commander]] as his weapon of choice. Upon closer inspection, the pistol appears to be a TSD Caspian gas blowback airsoft pistol. The same pistol is seen in the Season 4 finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).
[[File:TSPCaspian.jpg|thumb|none|300px|TSD Caspian WE Hi-Capa Airsoft]]
[[File:JustS4E08_212.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Outlaw" (S4E08), a Detroit hitman disguised as a Harlan County deputy uses a small compact pistol which appears to be a TSD Caspian gas blowback airsoft pistol. Note the "C" on the back of the slide.]]
[[File:JustS4E13_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Winona ([[Natalie Zea]]) is threatened with the same pistol in the Season 4 finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).]]
[[File:JustS4E13 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On the left, Winona ([[Natalie Zea]]) holds the pistol in Season 4's finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).]]

==Walther PPK replica Kimar "Lady K"==
In "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02), Wynn Duffy ([[Jere Burns]]) is seen using what appears to be a [[Walther PPK]] during a confrontation with Boyd. Due to the close proximity to another actor, this pistol is most likely a Kimar "Lady K" an 8mm blank fire only Walther PPK replica. In "Money Trap" (S4E07), Sharon Edmunds ([[Aja Evans]]) is seen pulling what appears to be a Walther during a confrontation with Jody Adair.
[[File:Kimar Lady K black.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Kimar Lady K - 8mm P.A.K. blanks]]
[[File:JustS4E02 23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the center, Wynn Duffy ([[Jere Burns]]) is seen using what appears to be a [[Walther PPK]] replica during a confrontation with Boyd in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).]]
[[File:JustS4E07_504.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Sharon Edmunds ([[Aja Evans]]) is seen pulling what appears to be a [[Walther PPK]] during a confrontation with Jody Adair.]]
[[File:JustS4E07_503.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "Money Trap" (S4E07), Sharon is hit while holding the pistol.]]
[[File:JustS4E07_506.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "Money Trap" (S4E07), sideview of Sharon's pistol.]]
[[File:JustS4E07_106.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "Money Trap" (S4E07), Sharon holds the pistol while lying wounded. The magazine plate looks more like a Walther.]]

=Revolvers=
==Colt Python==
In "Outlaw" (S4E08), Johnny Crowder ([[David Meunier]]) is seen pulling his stainless [[Colt Python]].
[[File:Colt Python .357.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Python]]
[[File:JustS4E08_513.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Outlaw" (S4E08), Johnny Crowder ([[David Meunier]]) is seen pulling his stainless [[Colt Python]].]]
[[File:JustS4E11_31.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Johnny Crowder ([[David Meunier]]) holds his stainless [[Colt Python]] in "Decoy" (S4E11).]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==
A [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] is seen in the hands of Ellen May ([[Abby Miller]]) when one of her customers surprises her in a bear suit in "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01).
[[File:S&W 36.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[File:JustS4E01_06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ellen May holds the revolver in "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01).]]
[[File:JustS4E01 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] is seen in the hands of Ellen May ([[Abby Miller]]).]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 30==
A member of the Truth family is seen holding a [[Smith & Wesson Model 30]] when confronted by the Marshals in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02). Art is seen later unloading the revolver.
[[Image:Smith-&-Wesson-32-Long-PF Ringo.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 30 - .32 S&W Long. This is the actual screen used Model 30 carried and used by Ringo ([[Tim Roth]]) in the film ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''.]]
[[File:JustS4E02 15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A member of the Truth family is seen holding a [[Smith & Wesson Model 30]] when confronted by the Marshals in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).]]

== Umarex Smith & Wesson Chief's Special==
Milo Truth (Ethan Jamieson) is seen pulling what appears to be a nickel Smith & Wesson in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02). This appears to also be the revolver held by Ava Crowder ([[Joelle Carter]]) in "Peace of Mind" (S4E12). The revolver appears to be a [[Umarex Smith & Wesson Chief's Special]], a blank firing replica of the [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]].
[[File:S&W-Umarex.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Umarex replica of the Smith & Wesson Model 36 with nickel finish - 9mm P.A.K. blanks]]
[[File:JustS4E02 19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Milo Truth (Ethan Jamieson) is seen pulling what appears to be a [[Umarex Smith & Wesson Chief's Special]] in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).]]
[[File:JustS4E12_22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This also appears to be the revolver held by Ava Crowder ([[Joelle Carter]]) in "Peace of Mind" (S4E12).]]

=Shotguns=
==Mossberg 500AT==
The [[Mossberg 500AT]] shotgun is seen in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).
[[File:Mossberg500AT.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 500 AT with wood furniture - 12 gauge]]
[[File:JustS4E02 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Mossberg 500AT]] shotgun in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).]]

==Mossberg 590 Mariner==
In "This Bird Has Flown" (S4E04), Rachel gives a pistol-gripped [[Mossberg 590 Mariner]] to Raylan, who is seen using it in a confrontation with Randall Kusik (Robert Baker). Lindsey Salazar ([[Jenn Lyon]]) is also seen using the shotgun.
[[Image:Moss590ExP.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Mossberg 590 Mariner 12 Gauge with high-capacity magazine tube and pistol grip]]
[[File:Justified S4E04 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "This Bird Has Flown" (S4E04), Rachel gives a pistol-gripped [[Mossberg 590 Mariner]] to Raylan.]]
[[File:Justified S4E04 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "This Bird Has Flown" (S4E04), Raylan uses the pistol-gripped [[Mossberg 590 Mariner]] in a confrontation with Randall Kusik (Robert Baker). ]]
[[File:Justified S4E04 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "This Bird Has Flown" (S4E04), Lindsey Salazar ([[Jenn Lyon]]) is also seen using the shotgun.]]

==Remington 870 Police==
A [[Remington 870]] Police model with a dedicated forend weaponlight is carried by Tim Gutterson in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).
[[Image:Model870P MAXlg.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870 Police with a dedicated forend weaponlight - 12 gauge.]]
[[File:JustS4E02 14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[Remington 870]] Police model with a Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight is carried by Tim Gutterson in "Where's Waldo?" (S4E02).]]

==Remington 870 (Short Barrel)==
In "The Hole in the Wall" (S4E01), Ava Crowder is seen pulling a short barrel [[Remington 870]] from underneath the bar counter. This short barrel Remington also appears to be carried by Jimmy ([[Jesse Luken]]) as he searches a revival tent in "Truth and Consequences" (S3E03).
[[File:Rem870WP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 (Short Barrel)]]
[[File:JustS4E03 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The short barrel Remington appears to be carried by Jimmy as he searches a revival tent in "Truth and Consequences" (S3E03).]]

==Over/Under Shotgun==
[[12 Gauge Over/Under Shotgun]]s are seen in the hands of several characters in Season 4. In "Outlaw" (S4E08), Frank Browning ([[Rocky McMurray]]) is seen cleaning and holding his shotgun while in a conversation with Boyd. In "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09), Lee Paxton ([[Sam Anderson]]) holds one while speaking with Constable Bob Sweeney ([[Patton Oswalt]]).
[[Image:Browning 0-U.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning 5.25 O/U - 12 gauge.]]
[[File:JustS4E08 504.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "Outlaw" (S4E08), Frank Browning ([[Rocky McMurray]]) holding his shotgun while on Boyd.]]
[[File:JustS4E08 503.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Closeup of the rounds in the shotgun in "Outlaw" (S4E08).]]
[[File:JustS4E09 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09), Lee Paxton ([[Sam Anderson]]) holds one while speaking with Constable Bob Sweeney ([[Patton Oswalt]]).]]

=Rifles=
==AKMSU==
In "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09), Constable Bob Sweeney ([[Patton Oswalt]]) pulls out an [[AKMSU]] from his "go-bag" during a shootout. He had mentioned this weapon in the Season 4 premiere "Hole in the Wall" (S4E01).
[[Image:AK-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMSU Krinkov - 7.62x39mm. This is a blank adapted full auto transferable AKM (7.62x39mm) pistol that was converted into a Krinkov via parts kit. Guns just like this one have been used in ''[[Tropic Thunder]]'', ''[[Three Kings]]'', and numerous other movies and TV shows.]]
[[File:JustS4E09_10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09), Constable Bob Sweeney ([[Patton Oswalt]]) pulls out an AKMSU from his "go-bag" during a shootout. He had mentioned this weapon in the Season 4 premiere (S4E01).]]
[[FIle:JustS4E09_12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bob opens fire with the AKMSU in "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09).]]

==Colt M4A1==
In "Peace of Mind" (S4E12), Nicky Cush is armed with an [[M4A1]] when he confronts Boyd and Picker ([[John Kapelos]]).
[[File:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M4A1]]
[[File:JustS4E12_16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Peace of Mind" (S3E13), an almost fully armored Nicky Cush is armed with an [[M4A1]] when he confronts Boyd and Picker ([[John Kapelos]]). ]]

==Ruger Mini-14==
A scoped [[Ruger Mini-14]] is used by Mort, one of Nicky Augustine's men, in "Decoy" (S4E11). Colton is also holds the rifle later in the episode. Jimmy ([[Jesse Luken]]) holds the rifle in Season 4's finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).
[[Image:Ruger-Mini-14.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Ruger Mini-14 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:JustS4E11_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A scoped [[Ruger Mini-14]] is seen used by Mort, one of Nicky Augustine's men, in "Decoy" (S4E11). ]]
[[File:JustS4E11_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A scoped [[Ruger Mini-14]] in "Decoy" (S4E11). ]]
[[File:JustS4E11_14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colton is also seen using the rifle in "Decoy" (S4E11). ]]

==Remington 700SPS Tactical==
In "Decoy" (S4E11), Deputy Gutterson uses the [[Remington 700PSS|Remington 700 SPS]] Tactical to put holes in the gas tank of an abandoned car.
[[File:Rem700SPS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Remington 700PSS|Remington 700 SPS]] Tactical]]
[[File:JustS4E11_05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Decoy" (S4E11), Deputy Gutterson uses the [[Remington 700PSS|Remington 700 SPS]] Tactical to put holes in the gas tank of an abandoned car.]]

==Remington 7400==
In "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09), both Lee Paxton ([[Sam Anderson]]) and Gerald Johns ([[Ned Bellamy]]) use [[Remington 7400]] rifles to exchange gunfire with Constable Bob.
[[Image:7400wd-1-.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Remington 7400]]]]
[[File:JustS4E09_09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09), both Lee Paxton ([[Sam Anderson]]) and Gerald Johns ([[Ned Bellamy]]) use [[Remington 7400]] rifles to exchange gunfire with Constable Bob.]]
[[File:JustS4E09_06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "The Hatchet Tour" (S4E09), Gerald Johns ([[Ned Bellamy]]) uses a [[Remington 7400]] rifle.]]

==Steyr Scout==
In "Outlaw" (S4E08), Frank Browning's bodyguard Deke carries a [[Steyr Scout]] during a conversation with Boyd.
[[Image:Scout.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Steyr Scout - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:JustS4E08 505.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Outlaw" (S4E08), Frank Browning's bodyguard Deke is seen on the left holding a [[Steyr Scout]].]]
[[File:JustS4E08 508.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "Outlaw" (S4E08), Deke holds the rifle.]]

=Submachine Guns=
==IMI Mini-Uzi==
The [[Uzi#Mini Uzi|Mini Uzi]] is notably seen in the hands of hitmen accompanying Sammy Tonin ([[Max Perlich]]) in Season 4's finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mini Uzi SMG with stock folded - 9x19mm]]
[[File:JustS4E13 14.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The [[Uzi#Mini Uzi|Mini Uzi]] is notably seen in the hands of hitmen accompanying Sammy Tonin ([[Max Perlich]]) in Season 4's finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).]]

==MAC-10==
The [[MAC-10]] is carried by Augustine's thugs in Season 4's finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|none|250px|MAC-10 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:JustS4E13 12.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The [[MAC-10]] is carried by Augustine's thugs in Season 4's finale "Ghosts" (S4E13).]]

=Other=
==Frank Browning's Rifles==
In addition to his shotgun, Frank Browning also places several rifles and shotguns on a table in "Outlaw" (S4E08).
[[File:JustS4E08 206.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In "Outlaw" (S4E08), a double rifle and double barreled shotgun are seen.]]
[[File:JustS4E08 508.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "Outlaw" (S4E08), several rifles and shotguns seen.]]

{{Justified}}
[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Detective]]
[[Category:Elmore Leonard]]

Rainbow Six Siege

2015-07-30T10:39:37Z

Sandymon: /* Unidentified LMG 1 */

{{upcoming}}
[[Image:R6Siege Logo.jpg|thumb|right|420px|''Rainbow Six: Siege'' (2015)]]

[Please replace all existing screens when better ones become available. All guns have customizable scopes and some suppressors]
'''The following weapons can be seen in the upcoming video game ''Rainbow Six: Siege'':'''
__TOC__ 
=Pistols=
==M45/MEU(SOC)==
An M1911 variant is used by one of the Rainbow Six operatives. Labeled as the MEUSOC.
[[Image:MEU(SOC) pistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original MEU(SOC) Pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:R6Siege 1911 1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6Siege 1911 2.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FNP-9==
[[Image:FNP-Pistol.jpg |thumb|400px|none|FNP-9 Pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6snp92.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FN Five-seveN USG==
[[Image:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN Five-seveN USG (U.S. Government) model - FN 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:R6susg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==GSh-18==
[[File:Gsh18-l.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GSh-18 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6svsn.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Makarov PMM==
[[Image:Makarov PMM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Makarov PMM, Modern extended magazine variant - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:R6slmg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
The Mk25 is the same P226 used by the Navy SEALs.
[[Image:P226 Navy.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG-Sauer P226 Navy, this is the version used by the Navy SEALs - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6s226.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s591.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 586==
[[Image:S&W586-6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 586 with 6" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:R6s586.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
A terrorist is armed with an [[MP5A3]] with a RIS foregrip. For some reason it is gold-plated in the Alpha.
[[Image:Hk-mp5n.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5N - 9x19mm]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW==
[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP5K-PDW with its extended barrel with 3 lugs & folding stock - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6smp5k.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6smp5k2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch UMP45==
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch UMP45 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:R6sump.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6sump2.jpg |thumb|600px|none|]]

==Magpul FMG-9==
[[Image:MagpulFMG-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Magpul FMG-9 in open form- 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6sfmg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FN P90 TR==
[[Image:FN P90 Triple Rail (TR).jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 TR with optics removed - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:R6sp90.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==MAC-11==
A terrorist uses a [[MAC-11]], with a relocated charging handle and top rail, similar to [[Battlefield Hardline]].
[[Image:Mac m11 9k.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPB Industries M11A1 - .380 ACP]]
[[Image:R6Siege MAC.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6smac11.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=="VSN"==
Unidentified sub-machine gun that looks vaguely similar to an AKMSU.
[[Image:R6svsn.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Assault Rifles=
==AK-12==
[[Image:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:R6sak12.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
The [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]] is used by the player character.
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6Siege G36C 1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6Siege G36C 2.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch HK33A2==
[[Image:HK33w25rdMag.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch HK33A2 Select Fire rifle with Factory 25rd Magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6shk33.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6shk332.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch HK417==
[[Image:HK417 16.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch HK417 with sights removed and 16" barrel - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:R6s417.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s4172.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FAMAS F1==
Despite being labeled as a G2, the model is that of an F1.
[[Image:Famas.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FAMAS F1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6sfamas.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==SIG SG 556xi==
[[Image:Sg556xi.jpg|thumb|400px|none]]
[[Image:R6s556.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s5562.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==L85A2==
[[Image:L85A2 upgraded.jpg|thumb|400px|none|L85A2 with magazine removed, railed fore-end, ACOG scope, Grippod foregrip, and Surefire FHSA80SA flash hider - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6sl85.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6sl852.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Remington R4-C==
An R4-C with a fancy rails and barrel-shroud kit.
[[Image:RemingtonR4C.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Remington R4-C - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6sr4.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6sr42.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Light Machine Guns=
==DP-28==
What appears to be a Second World War-era DP-28 with a shortened barrel and attached to a monopod.
[[Image:R6slmg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Unidentified LMG 2==
An LMG with an AK-style front sight and a sloped ammo box.
[[Image:R6slmg2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Shotguns=
==Benelli M4 Super 90==
A Rainbow operative is seen holding a [[Benelli M4 Super 90]] shotgun on a picture in the Gameinformer magazine.
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:R6Siege M1014 1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Mossberg 590A1==
[[Image:Mossberg590.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mossberg 590 with 8-round magazine tube and bayonet lug - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:R6s5912.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s591.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Mossberg 500==
The model from Watch_Dogs with the Knoxx COPstock and heat shield makes an appearance.
[[Image:Mossbergcruiser1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser with heat shield - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:R6ssg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Launchers=
==Unknown Grenade Pistol==
[[Image:R6sgl.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Other=
==M84 Stun Grenade==
[[Image:M84stun.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M84 Stun]]
[[Image:R6Siege Stun.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

{{Tom Clancy Series}}
[[Category: Video Game]]
[[Category: Tom Clancy]]
[[Category: First-Person Shooter]]
[[Category: Crime]]

Rainbow Six Siege

2015-07-30T10:37:41Z

Sandymon: /* Unidentified LMG 1 */

{{upcoming}}
[[Image:R6Siege Logo.jpg|thumb|right|420px|''Rainbow Six: Siege'' (2015)]]

[Please replace all existing screens when better ones become available. All guns have customizable scopes and some suppressors]
'''The following weapons can be seen in the upcoming video game ''Rainbow Six: Siege'':'''
__TOC__ 
=Pistols=
==M45/MEU(SOC)==
An M1911 variant is used by one of the Rainbow Six operatives. Labeled as the MEUSOC.
[[Image:MEU(SOC) pistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original MEU(SOC) Pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:R6Siege 1911 1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6Siege 1911 2.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FNP-9==
[[Image:FNP-Pistol.jpg |thumb|400px|none|FNP-9 Pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6snp92.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FN Five-seveN USG==
[[Image:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN Five-seveN USG (U.S. Government) model - FN 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:R6susg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==GSh-18==
[[File:Gsh18-l.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GSh-18 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6svsn.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Makarov PMM==
[[Image:Makarov PMM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Makarov PMM, Modern extended magazine variant - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:R6slmg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
The Mk25 is the same P226 used by the Navy SEALs.
[[Image:P226 Navy.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG-Sauer P226 Navy, this is the version used by the Navy SEALs - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6s226.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s591.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 586==
[[Image:S&W586-6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 586 with 6" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:R6s586.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
A terrorist is armed with an [[MP5A3]] with a RIS foregrip. For some reason it is gold-plated in the Alpha.
[[Image:Hk-mp5n.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5N - 9x19mm]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW==
[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP5K-PDW with its extended barrel with 3 lugs & folding stock - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6smp5k.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6smp5k2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch UMP45==
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch UMP45 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:R6sump.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6sump2.jpg |thumb|600px|none|]]

==Magpul FMG-9==
[[Image:MagpulFMG-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Magpul FMG-9 in open form- 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6sfmg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FN P90 TR==
[[Image:FN P90 Triple Rail (TR).jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 TR with optics removed - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:R6sp90.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==MAC-11==
A terrorist uses a [[MAC-11]], with a relocated charging handle and top rail, similar to [[Battlefield Hardline]].
[[Image:Mac m11 9k.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPB Industries M11A1 - .380 ACP]]
[[Image:R6Siege MAC.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6smac11.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=="VSN"==
Unidentified sub-machine gun that looks vaguely similar to an AKMSU.
[[Image:R6svsn.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Assault Rifles=
==AK-12==
[[Image:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:R6sak12.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
The [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]] is used by the player character.
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6Siege G36C 1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6Siege G36C 2.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch HK33A2==
[[Image:HK33w25rdMag.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch HK33A2 Select Fire rifle with Factory 25rd Magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6shk33.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6shk332.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch HK417==
[[Image:HK417 16.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch HK417 with sights removed and 16" barrel - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:R6s417.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s4172.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FAMAS F1==
Despite being labeled as a G2, the model is that of an F1.
[[Image:Famas.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FAMAS F1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6sfamas.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==SIG SG 556xi==
[[Image:Sg556xi.jpg|thumb|400px|none]]
[[Image:R6s556.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s5562.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==L85A2==
[[Image:L85A2 upgraded.jpg|thumb|400px|none|L85A2 with magazine removed, railed fore-end, ACOG scope, Grippod foregrip, and Surefire FHSA80SA flash hider - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6sl85.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6sl852.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Remington R4-C==
An R4-C with a fancy rails and barrel-shroud kit.
[[Image:RemingtonR4C.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Remington R4-C - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6sr4.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6sr42.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Light Machine Guns=
==Unidentified LMG 1==
What appears to be the game's R4-C with a pan magazine from a DP-28.
[[Image:R6slmg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Unidentified LMG 2==
An LMG with an AK-style front sight and a sloped ammo box.
[[Image:R6slmg2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Shotguns=
==Benelli M4 Super 90==
A Rainbow operative is seen holding a [[Benelli M4 Super 90]] shotgun on a picture in the Gameinformer magazine.
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:R6Siege M1014 1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Mossberg 590A1==
[[Image:Mossberg590.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mossberg 590 with 8-round magazine tube and bayonet lug - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:R6s5912.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s591.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Mossberg 500==
The model from Watch_Dogs with the Knoxx COPstock and heat shield makes an appearance.
[[Image:Mossbergcruiser1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser with heat shield - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:R6ssg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Launchers=
==Unknown Grenade Pistol==
[[Image:R6sgl.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Other=
==M84 Stun Grenade==
[[Image:M84stun.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M84 Stun]]
[[Image:R6Siege Stun.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

{{Tom Clancy Series}}
[[Category: Video Game]]
[[Category: Tom Clancy]]
[[Category: First-Person Shooter]]
[[Category: Crime]]

Rainbow Six Siege

2015-07-30T10:36:16Z

Sandymon: /* Unidentified LMG 1 */

{{upcoming}}
[[Image:R6Siege Logo.jpg|thumb|right|420px|''Rainbow Six: Siege'' (2015)]]

[Please replace all existing screens when better ones become available. All guns have customizable scopes and some suppressors]
'''The following weapons can be seen in the upcoming video game ''Rainbow Six: Siege'':'''
__TOC__ 
=Pistols=
==M45/MEU(SOC)==
An M1911 variant is used by one of the Rainbow Six operatives. Labeled as the MEUSOC.
[[Image:MEU(SOC) pistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original MEU(SOC) Pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:R6Siege 1911 1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6Siege 1911 2.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FNP-9==
[[Image:FNP-Pistol.jpg |thumb|400px|none|FNP-9 Pistol - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6snp92.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FN Five-seveN USG==
[[Image:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN Five-seveN USG (U.S. Government) model - FN 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:R6susg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==GSh-18==
[[File:Gsh18-l.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GSh-18 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6svsn.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Makarov PMM==
[[Image:Makarov PMM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Makarov PMM, Modern extended magazine variant - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:R6slmg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
The Mk25 is the same P226 used by the Navy SEALs.
[[Image:P226 Navy.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG-Sauer P226 Navy, this is the version used by the Navy SEALs - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6s226.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s591.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 586==
[[Image:S&W586-6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 586 with 6" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:R6s586.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
A terrorist is armed with an [[MP5A3]] with a RIS foregrip. For some reason it is gold-plated in the Alpha.
[[Image:Hk-mp5n.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5N - 9x19mm]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW==
[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP5K-PDW with its extended barrel with 3 lugs & folding stock - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6smp5k.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6smp5k2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch UMP45==
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch UMP45 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:R6sump.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6sump2.jpg |thumb|600px|none|]]

==Magpul FMG-9==
[[Image:MagpulFMG-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Magpul FMG-9 in open form- 9x19mm]]
[[Image:R6sfmg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FN P90 TR==
[[Image:FN P90 Triple Rail (TR).jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 TR with optics removed - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:R6sp90.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==MAC-11==
A terrorist uses a [[MAC-11]], with a relocated charging handle and top rail, similar to [[Battlefield Hardline]].
[[Image:Mac m11 9k.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPB Industries M11A1 - .380 ACP]]
[[Image:R6Siege MAC.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6smac11.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=="VSN"==
Unidentified sub-machine gun that looks vaguely similar to an AKMSU.
[[Image:R6svsn.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Assault Rifles=
==AK-12==
[[Image:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:R6sak12.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
The [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]] is used by the player character.
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6Siege G36C 1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6Siege G36C 2.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch HK33A2==
[[Image:HK33w25rdMag.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch HK33A2 Select Fire rifle with Factory 25rd Magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6shk33.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6shk332.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Heckler & Koch HK417==
[[Image:HK417 16.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch HK417 with sights removed and 16" barrel - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:R6s417.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s4172.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==FAMAS F1==
Despite being labeled as a G2, the model is that of an F1.
[[Image:Famas.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FAMAS F1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6sfamas.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==SIG SG 556xi==
[[Image:Sg556xi.jpg|thumb|400px|none]]
[[Image:R6s556.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s5562.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==L85A2==
[[Image:L85A2 upgraded.jpg|thumb|400px|none|L85A2 with magazine removed, railed fore-end, ACOG scope, Grippod foregrip, and Surefire FHSA80SA flash hider - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6sl85.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6sl852.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Remington R4-C==
An R4-C with a fancy rails and barrel-shroud kit.
[[Image:RemingtonR4C.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Remington R4-C - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:R6sr4.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6sr42.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Light Machine Guns=
==Unidentified LMG 1==
What appears to be the game's R4-C with a Lewis gun-style pan magazine.
[[Image:R6slmg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Unidentified LMG 2==
An LMG with an AK-style front sight and a sloped ammo box.
[[Image:R6slmg2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Shotguns=
==Benelli M4 Super 90==
A Rainbow operative is seen holding a [[Benelli M4 Super 90]] shotgun on a picture in the Gameinformer magazine.
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:R6Siege M1014 1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Mossberg 590A1==
[[Image:Mossberg590.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mossberg 590 with 8-round magazine tube and bayonet lug - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:R6s5912.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:R6s591.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

==Mossberg 500==
The model from Watch_Dogs with the Knoxx COPstock and heat shield makes an appearance.
[[Image:Mossbergcruiser1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser with heat shield - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:R6ssg.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Launchers=
==Unknown Grenade Pistol==
[[Image:R6sgl.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

=Other=
==M84 Stun Grenade==
[[Image:M84stun.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M84 Stun]]
[[Image:R6Siege Stun.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|]]

{{Tom Clancy Series}}
[[Category: Video Game]]
[[Category: Tom Clancy]]
[[Category: First-Person Shooter]]
[[Category: Crime]]

Transporter 2

2015-07-30T10:24:49Z

Sandymon: /* Heckler & Koch USP Match */

{{incomplete}}
'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Transporter 2'':'''
[[Image:The Transporter 2 poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Transporter 2'' (2005)]]
__TOC__ 

=Pistols=
==Beretta 92FS Inox==

On the movie's promotional material (such as the poster above), a pair of [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS Inox|Beretta 92FS Inox]] pistols can be seen being dual-wielded by Frank Martin ([[Jason Statham]]), though are never seen on-screen.

[[File:Inoxflipside.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS Inox (flip side) - 9x19mm]]

==Beretta 93R==
A guard is briefly seen what could be either an actual [[Beretta 93R]] or a Beretta 92FS made to look like the 93R.
[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 93R - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Trans2-berettaposs..jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard gives us a look at his gun while doing a back-flip after being taken out.]]
[[Image:Trans2-possBeretta.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard falling with his Beretta in hand.]]

== Glock 17 ==

When responding to the incident at the doctor's office, Miami P.D. officers can be seen wielding [[Glock 17]] pistols, though they are no match for Lola's automatic Glock 17s.

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TII-Glock-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Miami P.D. officer draws his Glock 17 on Lola moments before being mowed down. This is clearly not a trained police officer as wrapping your thumb over the wrist of your firing hand means that the tip of your thumb joint would be sliced by the sharp slide rails as the gun cycled.]]

== Glock 17 (Converted to full auto) ==

In several scenes, a gunslinging femme fatale named Lola ([[Kate Nauta]]) wields twin [[Glock_pistol_series#Glock_17_.28Converted_to_Full_Auto.29|Glock 17]]s modified to fire full auto and fitted with suppressors, laser sights, and extended high capacity magazines; even using one to shoot down a Miami PD helicopter. The Glocks, and several other weapons in the film, seem to fire some kind of tracer round, as the rounds can be seen flying through the air. Most definitely an effect added in post production as no film crew in their right mind would use live ammunition for a shoot.

[[Image:Glock17ext.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 9x19mm with 33-round extended magazine]]
[[Image:Trans2-convertG17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lola drawing one of her Glocks on the nurse.]]
[[Image:Trans2-G17fire.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lola firing her two converted Glock 17s in the doctor's office. Note lack of selector switch.]]

== Ruger KP95 ==

During Frank and Gianni's first meeting, Gianni pulls a [[Ruger P-series pistol#Ruger P95|Ruger KP95]] on him when telling him to leave, firing a shot at his feet to emphasize his point.

[[Image:kp95.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger KP95 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TII-P95.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gianni aims a Ruger KP95 at Frank]]

== SIG-Sauer P226 ==

The U.S. Marshals Frank encounters at the doctor's office and the FBI agents at the Billing's residence can be seen carrying [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]] pistols, though are quickly relieved of them via Frank's martial arts skills. Dimitri ([[Jason Flemyng]]) can be also be seen using one when Frank raids his apartment. He fires it at Frank (who easily dodges the shots) and he throws it away when it jams on him. A stainless [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]] can be seen in the trunk of Frank's Car, along with a few magazines, a tactical knife, smoke grenades, and a few spare suits.

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIGSauer P226 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TII-P226.jpg|thumb|none|600px|U.S. Marshal Brown ([[Marc Macaulay]]) with a SIG-Sauer P226.]]
[[Image:Trans2-P226load.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dimitri loading his P226 as he is packing his stuff in his apartment.]]
[[Image:Trans2-P226home.jpg|thumb|none|600px|US Marshals searching the Billing's house when they notice there is a security breach.]]
== Heckler & Koch USP Match ==

When Dimitri ([[Jason Flemyng]]) believes he's been injected with the virus and demands the antidote, he pulls a [[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Match|Heckler & Koch USP Match]] and uses it to shoot Tipov ([[Gregg Weiner]]) when he finds out there's only two samples of it. He tries to shoot Frank with it when he reveals that he'd only been injected with water, but is disarmed. Frank then holds the gun on the Sonovitch, the virologist, who has the antidote and demands he give it to him, but loses the pistol as he dives out the window after Sonovitch tosses the antidote out the window.

[[Image:H&K-USP-Compensator.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch USP Match 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TII-USP-Match.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dimitri aims a [[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Match|Heckler & Koch USP Match]] as he demands the antidote for the virus he thinks he's been injected with]]
[[Image:Trans2-Matchfire.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dimitri firing the H&K USP Match out of anger after he learns he was lied to about the injection.]]
[[Image:Trans2-matchDisassemble.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Only to result in Frank dodging and disassembling the gun.]]

==Jericho 941 R==

When Frank ([[Jason Statham]]) makes his raid on Gianni's home, he carries a stainless steel [[Jericho 941 R]] pistol.

[[Image:JerichoStainless.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jericho 941 R - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Trans2-JerichoBasement.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank with his Jericho as he gets into a standoff in the basement of Gianni's house.]]
[[Image:Trans2-JerichoBusiness.jpg|thumb|none|600px|We get a look of the Jericho's business end as Frank prepares to drop it.]]
[[Image:Trans2-Jerichoaim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank aims his Jericho as he confronts Gianni.]]

==Para-Ordnance P-14==
One of guards in the basement pulls a [[Para-Ordnance P-14]] as he comes down the stairs.
[[Image:ParaOrdnanceP14.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Para-Ordnance P-14 (Two Tone) - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Trans2-1911back.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard pulling the P-14 as he comes down the stairs.]]
[[Image:Trans2-unkown1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the P-14 seconds before being smacked in the face by a python Frank kicked out of the other guy's hand. Note the double stack bulge on the frame.]]
[[Image:Trans2-1911mag.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard somehow ejects the magazine when he gets smacked in the face.]]

==Vektor CP1==

At the beginning of the film, a teenage girl ([[AnnaLynne McCord]]) working with a gang of carjackers holds Frank Martin ([[Jason Statham]]) at gunpoint with a two-tone [[Vektor CP1]]. She threatens to shoot Frank with it after he single handedly beats up the other carjackers, but loses her nerve when he confronts her, throwing the pistol to the ground as she flees. In a continuity error, her Vektor CP1 starts as all black but turns into two-tone for the rest of the scene.

[[Image:Vektor cp1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vektor CP1 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Trans2-Vektor.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The girl pulls her Vektor CP1 on Frank.]]
[[Image:Trans2-tutoneVektor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The girl forcing Frank out of the car at gunpoint.Note:The gun switches to two-tone.]]

==Walther P99==

When Frank confronts Gianni aboard his Gulfstream jet, Gianni pulls a [[Walther P99]] on him, though loses it when the plane goes out of control.
[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Walther P99 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Trans2-p99plane.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gianni greeting Frank with a P99.]]
[[Image:Trans2-p99Floor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The P99 on the floor of the plane when it gets knocked out of Gianni's hand.]]

=Revolvers=

==Colt Python Snub==
One of Gianni's guards is armed with a nickel plated [[Colt Python|Colt Python Snub]].
[[Image:Pyth25snub.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Nickel plated Colt Python Snub with rubber grips - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:Trans2-snubby.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A guard surprises Frank by pulling his Colt Python snub.]]
[[Image:Trans2-coltsnubby.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

=Submachine Guns=

== Heckler & Koch MP5 ==

In the scene where Tarconi ([[François Berléand]]) is taken into custody at Frank's home, several Miami P.D. SWAT members can be seen wielding [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A2|Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]'s and [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]'s, among other weapons. Another MP5A3 can be seen in the hands of another SWAT member when Jack Billings ([[Hunter Clary]]) is recovered. The MP5A2 seen at Frank's home has a Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight with the light removed. Many members of Gianni's security force also carry MP5s.

[[Image:2MP5A2.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 9x19mm with Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight]]
[[Image:MP5A3.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Trans2-mp5Thug.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Gianni ([[Alessandro Gassman]])'s men can be seen holding MP5 equipped with a red-dot sight.]]
[[Image:TII-Tarconi.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tarconi ([[François Berléand]]) is met with a group of guns to his face when he opens the door. The H&K MP5A2 is in the upper left and the H&K MP5A3 in the lower right. Note: The flashlight in missing on the MP5A2.]]
[[Image:Trans2-SWATtruck.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SWAT officer on the right can be seen holding a MP5A3 as Audrey forces her way past them.]]

== Heckler & Koch G36C ==

When Frank and Gianni ([[Alessandro Gassman]]) first meet, his henchmen can be seen wielding [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]]'s, among other weapons. They can be seen being equipped with laser pointers, flashlights, and red-dot sights.

[[Image:G36CwForegrip.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TII-G36C.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of Gianni's henchmen with a Heckler & Koch G36C aiming.]]
[[Image:Trans2-thugG36c(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closer look at the load-out on the G36C.]]

== Heckler & Koch G36K ==

When Frank makes his raid on Gianni's home, at least one of Gianni's men can be seen carrying an [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36K|Heckler & Koch G36K]]. [[Image:H&K-G36K.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch G36K 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Trans2-G36K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard firing his G36K fitted with a tactical light.]]
[[Image:Trans2-G36K_(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guards trying to get to the armory to grab extra magazines because apparently all the guards figured they should only carry one mag one them. The G36K can be seen in the hands of the guard leader.]]

== Heckler & Koch UMP ==

There are several appearances throughout the film of the [[Heckler & Koch UMP]], both in the hands of Gianni's men as well as being used by at least one of the Miami P.D. SWAT members who take Tarconi into custody.

[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch UMP45 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:TII-Tarconi.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Tarconi is taken into custody the Miami S.W.A.T. officers pull ''(counter-clockwise from top left)'' a Heckler & Koch MP5A2, Heckler & Koch UMP, Heckler & Koch MP5A3, and an M4A1 carbine]]
[[Image:Trans2-SWATUMP.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT officer can be seen holding a UMP45 fitted with a light and EOTech sight as they take Tarconi into custody.]]
[[Image:Trans2-UMP45.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A guard firing his UMP45 fitted with a light and ACOG sight.]]
[[Image:Trans2-G36K_(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the guards holding his empty UMP45 after unloading the mag into the taxi Frank drove onto the compound.]]

=Carbines=
== M4A1 Carbine ==

When Tarconi is taken into custody, some of the SWAT members can be seen wielding [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|M4A1 carbines]].

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 5.56x45mm with RIS foregrip and M68 Aimpoint scope]]
[[Image:TII-Tarconi.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Tarconi is taken into custody the Miami S.W.A.T. officers pull ''(counter-clockwise from top left)'' a Heckler & Koch MP5A2, Heckler & Koch UMP, Heckler & Koch MP5A3, and an M4A1 carbine]]
[[Image:Trans2-SWATtruck.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SWAT officer on the left can be seen holding a M4A1 as Audrey forces her way past them.]]

==DSA SA58 OSW==
When Frank makes his raid on Gianni's house, one of his guard can be seen with a [[FN FAL#DSA SA58 OSW|DSA SA58 OSW]].
[[Image:DSA SA58 Reddot.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DSA SA58 OSW with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Trans2-fal.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard aiming his DSA SA58 OSW fitted with an ACOG sight and tactical light.]]
[[Image:Trans2-falfire.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard opening fire with this DSA SA58 OSW.]]

=Snipers=
==Possible Heckler & Koch SL8==
The SWAT sniper could possibly be using a [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch SL8|H&K SL8]].
[[Image:Trans2-SL8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SWAT sniper with what could be an SL8.]]

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Talk:Grand Theft Auto V

2015-03-03T19:34:27Z

Sandymon: /* GRAND THEFT AUTO 5 ONLINE HEISTS (FINALLY) REVEALED */

== new page and type 56-2 ==

Hi!
I made this kinda quick. Didn't have a lot of time to check errors.
I'm relatively new to the editing in this site. So if any veteran
around with more knowledge could help improve the article would be indeed
great.
When it comes to the weapon, I believe it's a Norinco Type 56-2 since the stock
looks like the one in a Type 56-2. Otherwise correct if I'm wrong.
Also one of the guys seems to have a laser sight. Don't know which sort though
[[User:Santos|Santos]] 17:08, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

The rifles seem to have some sort of rail system on them... which I think is a shame--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 10:55, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

:Most likely is the handguard with picatinny rails. The guy knocking on the van leading those other two men, seems to have a laser sight attached to it. This is a handguard is from FAB-Defense. http://www.fab-defense.com/images/big-details/ak-47-1.jpg

One of the screenshots mentions "excellent" trigger discipline, to me it looks like his finger is actually on the trigger as there is a small curve in the shape of the finger, I wouldn't refer to that as excellent trigger discipline. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:42, 1 December 2011 (CST)

:To me it looks like the guy is holding his finger just slightly above the trigger area, not excellent but still better than most games have, to be honest the only game i can remember that had great trigger discipline was MGS4 where Snake kept his finger completely off the triggers of all weapons unless he was aiming them, but i think that since they're both video games, bad trigger discipline can be excused since i doubt developers want to spend who knows how many hours giving every character separate finger animations for trigger discipline, and also there is the fact that the character can have their fingers wrapped around the triggers, but the players have theirs completely off the fire button, so essentially, it's our own 'trigger' discipline that video game characters have (least that's how i see it) we should save the bad trigger discipline arguments for movies.[[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 16:26, 8 March 2012 (CST)
::Add ''[[ArmA 2]]'' to the list of games with excellent trigger discipline. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

== M4? ==

Help to identify; looks like a M4 rifle with longer (?) and suppressed barrel. [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] ([[User talk:Pawelm|talk]]) 13:55, 10 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I would say that it has a shorter barrel than an M4A1. I would say it's a suppressed [[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 14:21, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Suppressor resembles an AAC model which covers more of the barrel than the KAC suppressors we commonly see, so it's possible it could still be an M4. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:10, 10 November 2012 (EST)

:If it was an M4 length barrel, there would be no suppressor left to actually trap the gas to suppress the weapon. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 22:24, 10 November 2012 (EST)

looks like it has the older CAR-15 style stock [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:38, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:What people refer to as CAR-15s (XM177, XM177E1, XM177E2 etc) were fitted with a stock that was made of aluminium with a black polymer coating as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#2nd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. Later Colt carbines up to and including the M4 had a synthetic fiberlite stock as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#3rd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. The easiest way to tell them apart are the vertical reinforcing ribs that are present on the side of the fiberlite stock, which are present in the game gun. As this stock can be found on Mk. 18s, Model 933s and M4s (all of which this gun could be depending on how the suppressor fits) that doesn't really help. However as the gun has the slim handguard rather than the thicker double heat shield M4 handguard, my best guess would be a Mk. 18. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:03, 11 November 2012 (EST)
::What I think he meant was this is the 3rd Gen stock, the four-position plastic, not the newer six-position.--[[User:Sangheili1155|Sangheili1155]] ([[User talk:Sangheili1155|talk]]) 02:43, 12 November 2012 (EST)
I've seen scans that show one of the other characters holding that weapon without a suppressor on it. I'd definitely go with Mk.18 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 01:12, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure that this is why this image is in this section, but I cant believe these animated pictures as validation for the weapons in the game. GTA IV had MANY weapons in the loading screens that for what ever reason never made it to the final product.--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:05, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:Check the [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] page and you'll notice we include loading screen weapons on it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

::If a weapon is in the game and can be identified, then it should be identified. This includes artwork, loading screens, stock footage, in-game posters, whatever; if it's a clear and identifiable shot it's included. Weapons only seen in previews can also be included as long as the image is from a legitimate source and not leaked. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (EST)

Cover for the latest Game Informer magazine. You can see the suppressor is missing but the muzzle and the barrel is missing [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Weapon Selection hope==

So I don't know about most of you, but one of the worst aspects to these games is the frank lack of weapons for which you to use. I am not saying that the game doesn't need 100 different firearms, but there is no need to use the low level weapons once the higher tier weapons are unlocked (compare the Glock and Desert Eagle in GTA IV, how often do you use the Glock after unlocking). If nothing else I hope that this game has at least 3-4 variations in firearm. There are tons of vehicles to choose from, but you dont spend most of your time offing people with cars. Having to use the same repetitive weapon again and again bores me. What are your thoughts?--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:09, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Four or five options of each type sound good to me. I'm hoping we get a silenced pistol again this time. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)

:@Spartan198, exactly! The way I have seen it (for example), in the pistol category there should be a standard (Glock), Hi standard (1911), Burst (Beretta 93R), Special (Silenced [if no ability to customize]), and Magnum (Desert Eagle/Equivilant). Now this is a very basic look, but I think you can catch my drift. Same thing for shotguns where there should be a Double Barrell (For range and/or sawed off), Pump (Mossberg), Semi Auto (Benelli M4), and Automatic (USAS-12/AA-12). You can make any adjustments for which weapons are in which category does not matter. But the differences. --[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 12:45, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Seeing the silenced 56-2s in the reveal; its likely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 01:25, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping to see an [[Ithaca 37]] in this like in San Andreas, being that this is taking place in the same fictional Los Angeles. --[[User:QueenSasha24|QueenSasha24]] ([[User talk:QueenSasha24|talk]]) 04:01, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping for a SIG P226 myself this time around, but with the 92FS, that's looking unlikely. I like Valiant's system of classification, though. Using that system, I'd like to see assault rifles classified like this: an AKMS without a stock (low accuracy, short range), the Type 56 (medium accuracy, short range), the AR-15 variant (high accuracy, medium range), TAR-21 (high accuracy, long range). A grenade launcher attachment (if the weapons are customizable) would be nice, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:38, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

==Trailer 2==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzue74y7A84

The only new weapon I see looks to be an M4 type at 1:15. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:05, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Aaaargh! Why won't videos stream for me? It's been like this for the past 3 days! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:34, 15 November 2012 (EST)

== Trailer #2 Screenshots ==

[[File:Gta5-1.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 platform rifle]]
[[File:Gta5-2.JPG|200px|thumb|none|The handguard is longer than M4-style one]]
[[File:Gta5-3.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 style rifle, looks a bit like a HK416 to me, also the guy on the right has the same, or very similar gun]]

The rifle on the 3rd screencap looks like a HK416 variant (handguard with these thin vents). Also the rifle in 1st and 2nd screenshot seems to be different than the one in the 3rd. It has a black magazine, in games a gun rarely can have a mag swapped out. :D --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:06, 15 November 2012 (EST)

PS sorry for the black bars guys :\ --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:08, 15 November 2012 (EST)

:I'm guessing it is the same rifle in all 3 caps. Also, in the first screencap you can see the distinctive forward assist/brass deflector that is used on VLTOR VIS and MUR upper receivers ([[Media:NovesDiplomat.jpg|here]] is a picture of a Noveske Diplomat with a VIS upper showing the forward assist). Although these uppers are used on Noveske rifles, I don't think this is one as the handguard is wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:22, 15 November 2012 (EST)

It looks like more an AAC Honey Badger (look at the stock and the bolt) than an HK416 or AR-15-like rifle for the 3rd picture. --[[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]])
:Several reasons why I don't think it is a Honey Badger: firstly, the stock on the Honey Badger extend on rails on the side of the receiver like an MP5, as opposed to this where it extends along the buffer tube in typical Colt Carbine fashion; secondly it appears that it has a VLTOR VIS/MUR upper receiver based on the design of the combined forward assist and brass deflector which the Honey Badger doesn't; lastly, even if you disagree that it is a VLTOR upper it definitely has a forward assist, which the Honey Badger does not just having a normal brass deflector. In what way do you think the bolt makes it a Honey Badger they are pretty much the same on a typical AR-15 and a Honey Badger aren't they? (with the exception of the FA serrations, but from these screenshots you cannot tell whether they are there or not.) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:30, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Very usefull thing i found ==

Hey guys i think this thread has everything about Weapons for GTA V, GTA Fans are really great at spotting things http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=532181&st=0
--[[User:Faizanali|Faizanali]] ([[User talk:Faizanali|talk]]) 03:38, 20 November 2012 (EST)
: As a member of GTA Forums, I can reliably say that anything you see there should be taken with the biggest dose of salt in history. Like, something from Big Bone Lick State Park. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 04:06, 20 November 2012 (EST)

== 1911 and Glock ==
A new artwork was revealed, and it has a 1911 and a glock variant. We should put on the main page?--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] ([[User talk:Flavio|talk]]) 15:16, 4 January 2013 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_PISTOLS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== New trailers ==

There's new guns found in the trailer of GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]) 18:06, 30 April 2013 (EST)
[[Image:ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is an AR-15 variant, the same as seen in the trailer 2.]]
[[Image:ar-15 variant 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closer view of the variant.]]
[[Image:assault rifle gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new assault rifle, I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. It seems this is a Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:type 56 gangster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type 56-2 in the hands of a gangster.]]
[[Image:type 56 trevor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor shoots his type 56-2.]]
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v new stock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new stock on Franklin's Mossberg 590 Cruiser.]]

I got some better images of the weapons that I'll be adding to the article. Here's a better shot of the unknown rifle; it looks kinda like a SCAR-H, but there's bits that aren't right.

Looks more like a weird FAL--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:41, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, here's a shot of the pistol used by Michael in the rappelling scene. I can't identify it, but it almost looks to have an orange tip like an airsoft gun and no hammer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:58, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[http://gyazo.com/ca7fae1d3d648ca8a2623bb5adb2bbbf.png?1367374112]] Not sure if it's a Hi-Power or 1911, on Michael's TV. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:11, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm also thinking some kind of short-barreled FAL for the new AR, judging by the magazine and shape of the mag well. It and the Tavor are certainly new and different choices considering GTA's past being dominated by the combo of an AK and M16 variants, which is a good thing. That's four assault rifles altogether now so far (five if the CQBR on concept art shown above is included in the game), so let's hope the other weapon categories have as diverse a selection. And considering how big the weapon selection in [[Red Dead Redemption|RDR]] was, I'm feeling pretty confident about it. Maybe my wish for a P226 could still come to pass after all? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:10, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a higher resolution cropped image of the mystery rifle.

[[File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg]]

It has the heat shield, gas block, and front sight of an M249, the magazine looks more like a belt bag, and the stock looks derived from the fixed stock of the Masada/ACR. The optic is an out-of-scale Elcan SpecterDR and it has a Magpul AFG2 foregrip. The receiver area lacks details, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's some kind of M249-based machine gun. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:15, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Now that you said that I start to see it, but my first bet was FAL, in the end it could just be a butchered MG, the stock doesn't somehow look m249ish to me and the heat shield seems tiny.--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 11:13, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

:After re-watching the trailer, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg light machine gun]. The ammo pouch gets a bit more obvious in motion and it's certainly an ammo pouch, not a 20 round 7.62 magazine. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 04:05, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

::I bet it turns out to be something ''really'' stoopid like an LSAT with a modified handguard. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:34, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

:::That horrified me for a moment, but I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that LSAT is tucked a bit further away then the pool of common firearms that appear in GTA. It will be some monstrosity of the natural order regardless. -[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

Seems to be a new pistol, but I can't ID it.[http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:52, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Could be a beretta. Weird pouch like a 50 rounder or something, but yeah now its definitely an butchered mg. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:35, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Underside of the trigger guard is straight, all Beretta models are rounded downward. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

DRD Tactical Paratus? [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 10:33, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

You mean the one to the left (its more likely an M4 would make sense for a game not centered around gun pron to have a generic well known firearm rather than some obscure one) if you mean the MG probably even more unlikely to me for now its seems like a franke-gun or at least a horribly scaled one. On a side note look at the one in the case the sight seems to be open http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/05/GTA-V-Heists.jpg and definetely a glock held by the guy in the picture little way above http://assets.vr-zone.net/19885/GTA_V_MFT.png -[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:00, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Spartan, gun models in video games can differ from their real life counterparts. It looks like a Beretta to me. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 18:47, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::Which gun are you talking about, the one pictured immediately above named "File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg"? If so you need to look at [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg this] image again, as it clearly shows that what looks like a mag from the side is actually a belt bag. Also you have the fact that the front sight and gas block are a match for a Minimi, and what can be seen of the receier in this grainy image is also pretty close. The only obvious differences are the furniture with the stock and handguard being different, and that the scaling is off. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:13, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
:::Commando, I was actually talking about this pistol: [http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 20:28, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Thats what I already said, since the game obviously has one in it, it's probably a beretta. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:59, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
:I know, I was agreeing with you because Spartan said that it couldn't be a Beretta with the squared trigger guard. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 09:57, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Sorry came of a bit rude , I meant to accentuate the fact that beretta is probably what everyone will think it is in the first place since it is confirmed to be in the game and beretta's have that distinct look of the slide,besides there's no reason to believe its some other gun since GTA's have tried to bring multiple weapons (AK's,AR's), instead of doing the COD thing and putting in several AR based ones, since they usually have a limited pool (like 3 in a category I believe) --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 13:09, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

*I was almost going to say it looked like a [[SIG SG 552|SIG552]], but the straight-edge magazine (rather than curved) says otherwise. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 02:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/GrandTheftAutoV/1280%20(1).jpg Looks like a 1911 or Hi-Power in Michael's hand. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:42, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

I can almost guaranty that the handgun above is another Beretta. If you look closely you can see the exposed barrel from the cutaway slide and you can barely make out the step in at the end of the barrel which a characteristic shared among all 92-series handguns.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 16:02, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

New pictures of guns in GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]

[[Image:ar-15 variant gta v 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A very close view of the AR-15 variant.]]
[[Image:GTAV_RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A RPG-7 based of the Airtronic RPG-7.]]
[[Image:gta v m134 without green camo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The handheld GE M134 without it's green finition.]]
[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
[[Image:gta v lmg (maybe M249).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the AR-15 variant, this time with a new LMG.]]
[[Image:franklin's beretta 92fs.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin's Beretta.]]
does anyone notice that Franklins Beretta has a Glock trigger guard? --[[User:Policerlhpd|Policerlhpd]] ([[User talk:Policerlhpd|talk]]) 03:57, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v night.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin at night with his Mossberg 590 Cruiser. I guess this is his favorite weapon.]]
[[Image:gta v ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the AR-15 variant. Last time I put it here.]]
[[Image:gta v mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the Mossberg.]]
:[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
:That's a camera. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 08:40, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yup camera 99% (since there is the same one in the SUV), seems that this game will sport gun customization at least color, the green Tavor,the green mini, and now the green shotty. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:26, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

I see a lot of influence from [[Heat]]. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 03:20, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah probably, but that is the trend in general with GTA's they put in references to movies and pop culture all the time. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:04, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

O yea, I know. This isn't my first GTA game by far. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

It's even right in the game, this time. According to an in-depth preview I watched on YouTube, Michael takes his ideas for heists directly from the game universe's versions of such movies. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:30, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

So is rockstar going to release the preview cause, all I have found right now is people talking for an hour about it .--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 04:50, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:They haven't released any public gameplay demos, no. At least none that I've seen yet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:20, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:As soon as they do, the media's going to be all over it. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 17:22, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a clearer picture of the pistol Franklin is holding in a previous screenshot.

[[File:Gtav pistol franklin.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Looks like some kind of cross between a Beretta and a Desert Eagle. It might be the "pistol .50" being offered as preorder DLC. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Seems like a different gun from the one in the above, I mean this probably is just a horrible DE, maybe work in progress, although GTA was never on top in weapons department. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:33, 14 June 2013 (EDT

http://www.gtav.net/screenshots/ - collection of official screenshots, might contain some weapons not already talked about. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

== Gameplay Video ==

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/09/first-grand-theft-auto-v-gameplay-video/

Go ahead and spot 'em. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:58, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

Dammit, Rockstar, take my money already! At 3:15, I can see an AW-type sniper rifle, a multi-shot grenade launcher (it looks similar to the hybrid grenade launcher in [[Resident Evil (2002 VG)|Resident Evil Remake]]), and a roll of dynamite in the weapon wheel. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:12, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png Got a screencap of Franklin with a tan M82A1M.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article on GTA V Gunplay ==
Found this article about the evolution of GTA V's gunplay on GTA Place. [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_v/b/xbox360/archive/2013/07/09/grand-theft-auto-v-gun-combat.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:39, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== New picture. ==

[[File:GTA5UNKNOWNPIST2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Bonshomme|Bonshomme]] 14:00, 10 July 2013 (CDT)

Is that seriously a rail on the side of the slide? [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 05:27, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

::Okay, I'm definitely not getting this game! Rockstar has always failed with the guns department (except in Max Payne 3), and that thing looks absolutely hideous. I'm done with the GTA series... Maybe when someone makes a skin mod for the guns, I'll get a copy... -.- --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 08:50, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Good. That leaves a copy for me. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::As if there will not be enough copies to go around, eh? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::While you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I always consider gun accuracy a +1 for me, incorrect weapon details isn't really much of a reason to not buy a game IMO (hell, I still got my copy of BO1). Again you are entitled to your opinion.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 11:06, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::: While I'm glad you won't be playing the game so as to avoid running into some joyless bother online, it seems to me more likely that the gun is a supposed to be some manner of TDI Kard, than whatever 1911/glock designed solely to offend your sensibilities you think it is. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::You have been playing too much Black Ops 2 if you think there is anything about that remotely resembling a Kard. It obviously has a conventional pistol layout with a slide, and the frame and general outline suggests a 1911. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:25, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Well, you know what they say: opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. I'm just sayin' you can't deny the fact that that... ''THING'' looks like a fugly frankengun, that should never see the light of day. I'm still hopin Rockstar has upped their gunplay from previous GTA titles, and made the gunplay (and the guns themselves) in this one a bit more realistic. You know, since they seem to be makin' this game another ground-breakin' masterpiece... Plus, I don't play with naive fanboys... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::If you would take the time to look at the trailer and use your words rather than skip to some nonsense about Black Ops 2, a game I haven't played not that it even matters, you might notice that Franklin uses the same pistol later in the trailer, his is fitted with an extended magazine and is seemingly firing on full auto, so, my suggestion that it's TDI Kard, I thought, might make a bit more sense than just losing your mind and writing off a whole title based on the appearance of a single handgun in the game. I can see how that might read as naivete though, I've had the wool pulled over my eyes and have been tricked into accepting a game in spite of the massive flaws it's exhibited in the design of one of it's firearms in a few seconds of footage and a screenshot or two, right?--[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 12:27, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::Yes. Btw, are you directing that comment to me or Commando552? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 16:45, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::At least some of it was directed at me so will address that part first. If your only evidance for it being a Kard is that it fires on full auto, then you should know that there are many other production pistols that are capable of full auto fire, not to mention the fact that it is possible to convert pistols to full automatic. Regardless of this, it is a game where they can give a gun whatever characteristics they choose so whether or not it is depicted as firing in full auto means nothing in real terms. Secondly, I have to say again it looks absolutely nothing like a Kard. If you can't see this then there is nothing that I can say to change your mind, but when I look at it I see absolutely nothing about the gun that suggests they based anything off of the Kard. If you put a gun to my head and made me take a guess at what it is meant to be I would probably say I highly customised (or very poorly modeled) full auto Glock, or maybe something like an Arsenal Strike One (which is available in FA/burst versions) but the shape is not really anything like one, it is just reminiscent of one if the "rail" on the front of the slide was actually the front slide serrations. In general can everyone chill out a bit about this game, we could do without the GTA talk pages degrading into a bitch fest like the COD ones historically have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:51, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I have to agree with Commando on the fact that it looks nothing like a Kard. Maybe a fuse of a badly-rendered Glock and a I9II... I also have to agree with Commando on the latter; regardless of my opinion on the possible depiction of guns/gunlay, there's no doubt that GTA V is going to be a great game (knowing Rockstar). Altough I still stand by my comment about not acquiring the game in the future, I realize that I shouldn't have been so outspoken about it, especially here, on the IMFDB. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 22:25, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
Well, look at MoH:WF, a game with accurate gun play but pretty mediocre everywhere else. Your opinion is yours, but what about Read Dead Redemption?[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:38, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Well don't get me wrong. I care about other elements besides gunplay such as gameplay and story. And as for RDR it was pretty accurate aside from a few minor mistakes.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 12:05, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::I agree with you, RDR was, and still is, pretty awesome. I still play it with my friends sometimes. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
Speaking of rails on the slide, it's been confirmed that we get weapon AND car customization to a pretty nice degree. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy the stories and the messages Rockstar provides in their games. But I've never been a fan of the GTA-gunplay. I'll be going for Saints Row IV this fall, instead of this. At least they don't even TRY to make the game realistic, so the gunplay is WAAAAY over the top. But that just makes it fun. PS. I enjoyed MOH:W... well, to a certain degree.--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Well, the gunplay that we've seen in the trailer (and confirmed in interviews) actually comes much more from Max Payne 3. You can run and gun without needing to aim and slow your movement, as well as switch between hard lock, soft lock, and full free aim in the options to suit your play style. You've still got the cover shooting and blindfiring, but you can actually be mobile in gunfights. There's also new options like being able to get in and out of a car while staying low to take cover behind it, as well as entering and exiting a car already shooting. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:33, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Has anyone considered that the pistol above could be a placeholder for something more real.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 15:40, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Its a possibility but given how we're two months away from release its unlikely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't think it is a placeholder, but I think there is a possibility that it is a bug where the wrong texture is on the model or it is using the low detail distance model or something, as there are several inconsistencies that make not sense. Firstly you have the fact that there is what appears to be a rail (which is scaled way too small) on the side of the slide. Then you have those weird horizontal black lines at the front of the slide and frame. Assuming that the black square at the back is meant to be the slide serrations, they span across both the slide and the top of the frame, which I have never seen on a real pistol. There are generally also lines all over the place on both the slide and frame which have no business being there on either a real gun, or a gun that is suggested by the silhouette of this. To top it off it also looks like it is ejecting rifle sized brass, but this is really the least of its problems. To me this gun looks ''so'' bad that it must be an error or something. It isn't just low detailed or simplified, or with random parts switched out for aesthetics, it actually appears deliberately FUBAR'd for no apparent reason. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:17, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I'm inclined to agree with Commando. All the guns on the page are designed relatively accurately except this one, which makes me think it's a texture bug. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:22, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

The Pistol is This ? Houge 1911 Avenger System - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:48, 6 August 2013 (JST)
[[File:1911 Avenger System.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hogue 1911 Avenger System]]

== AR 15 reloading ==

Did anyone notice in the new gameplay video that when Franklin pulls the charging handle of his AR15, a empty shell falls ?

Does that means that his gun jammed, or Rockstar Games made a shell fall each time the charging handle is pulled ? [[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 10 July 2013 (GMT)

:Probably the latter. And sign your posts by typing four tildes after them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:32, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

: It seems like they're doing the same thing as Metal Gear Solid 4, where Snake always racks the charging handle (ejecting an unfired round if it's a mid-mag reload) to chamber a fresh round after inserting the new magazine. This lets them stay realistically detailed while avoiding the +1 confusing that more casual players would have; keep it simple. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:23, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
::It really is kinda stupid and kinda lazy for animating a reload. Instead of programing someone doing nothing when you do a mid mag reload, they just left the reload animation program run, and I think the extra round coming out is really for the Hollywood effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:02, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
:: It's easier and less resource intensive to add a simple model of a cartridge flying out and use the same animation every time. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:01, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
Didn't he pull the charging handle a bit too far? [[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 16:20, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
::Looks pretty normal to me [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:06, 17 July 2013 (EDT)

Wouldn't also be more confortable to just hit the bolt release ? If doing a mid mag reload, nothing to do because a round is chambered, but it seems more natural to me to just hit the bolt release than racking the charging handle. [[User:Zebracherub|Zbracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 06:05, 28 July 2013 (GMT)

:It would, but this is GTA, where any random joe can hop in and know how to pilot a fighter plane or kill hundreds of people at a time without Homeland Security (or NOOSE, as they're called in-game) locking the city down like Guantanamo Bay NS, so it's not that big a deal IMO. Besides, I'd say this is just Rockstar showing off and proving they're still the pimps of the gaming industry. Aaargh! Why won't September 17th get here sooner?! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:08, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Theres lots of screen shots on the official site, some with weapons (an MP5 being fired by a SWAT member from an SUV). As for the flying part I thought they confirmed only Trevor is good at flying, it is possible there are missions the others learn to do that, SA had them, and we don't really know Niko didn't have any background in flying, Vercetti had little background at all and he was pretty old. As for the killing part most games have that I mean look at shooters even if we ignore the regeneration its quite improbable that one men can take out 20 in open shootout. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:32, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

:Nope, all three characters can operate any vehicle in the game, each one is just going to be better in one area than the others. This was confirmed by Rockstar in a Q&A posted on TGTAP forums. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

== CTAR-21 ==

I only noticed after editing the G11 to a CTAR-21, but does nayone know if this is meant to be the same gun just in different builds?
[[File:GTAVPossibleAUG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:GTAV TAR-21.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
From the fact that it is someone using the gun firing from a helicopter, at another helicopter, I would assume that this is the same piece of gameplay just with altered models. The confusing thing though is that the picture with the better correctly looking CTAR-21 is from November last year, as opposed to the crappy modded for no reason Tavor which is from a recent gameplay trailer. This would suggest that either the recent gameplay trailers used a '''very''' out of date build, or they deliberately messed with the weapons to make them less correct at some point during development, I would guess for legal reasons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:05, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
: It's fully possible that they altered the models to make them look different purely because they liked it better that way. They're making entertainment that looks good, not real-life gun porn. Aesthetic considerations are important. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:43, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
This is from the multiplayer trailer. It's definitely not in the TAR-21 family.
[[File:Gta5 online 32.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

A new screenshot was released showing a closer shot of the Tavor and it seems to have a P90-style fore-end.

[[File:GTA5-Tavor-Helicopter.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:06, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

== New Pictures ==

Two new photos have been released of a sniper rifle and that AP Pistol. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtav10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:gtav11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, I need to work at getting some caps from the new multiplayer trailer. But the apparent CTAR-21 (known in-game as the Advanced Rifle) actually doesn't really look like said gun in the final game except in the barest sense.

== New SMG ==

Thanks to iNero from GTA Forums for the picture. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:40, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtasmg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks like an oversized MP5A3.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 18:16, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
:: Highly doubt that. The only part of the shape that really matches an MP5A3 is the stock, and it has a short, straight magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Well as for the short mag, Rockstar said that weapon customization is going to be featured. So maybe the 10 round (civilian legal?) magazines is going to be an option. Also straight MP5 mags do exist. [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:47, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Straight MP5 magazines are older ones, and that doesn't match the pattern. The magwell is also too large for the magazine and it's sticking out at an awkward angle. And again, there's absolutely nothing that actually resembles an MP5 except for maybe the stock. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Looking at the SMGs currently documented on the site, I think it now looks similar to a [[FAMAE SAF]]
[[Image:SAF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAE SAF - 9x19mm]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:33, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Who labeled it a CZ Scorpion EVO 3? Looks a little like in the lower receiver/trigger guard area, but the rest is more MP5/SAF.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:23, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

:It looks like an MP5 with a sort of super-short G3 handguard. There's a closeup of it on one of the loading screens. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:00, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== M82? ==

Is it just me, or does the rifle in the first picture of the "Unknown Sniper Rifle" section (the one Franklin is holding on the roof) look a lot like an M82 variant? it has the muzzle brake and what we see of the body has the general shape. I don't have the pic now, but a recently released photo shows the sniper rifle on the weapon wheel photo and it's NOT the same gun. It actually looks closer to an Accuracy International rifle. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 03:39, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

It's a Barrett all right, check this screencap.
http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png
[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:38, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

== GTA Online Rifle ==
Found this over on Grand Theft Wiki.

[[File:GTAOnlineRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

They have it identified as a SCAR-L, but it's hard to make out. General shape is right for a SCAR, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:58, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== MK18 artwork ==
I separated it from the LR300 section since they clearly aren't the same weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:55, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

==Smith and Wesson M&P or Springfield XD? Can't identify.==
A person on another forum posted this pic of Michael holding a nickle plated handgun but the view is only from the top. I don't think it's a Glock because of the way the ejection port looks but I might be wrong. I can't see an exposed hammer. Any help?

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/fullsize/344.jpg

It could be a colored "AP Pistol". Paint jobs are among the weapon customization options. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:39, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: I don't think so. The side rails on the slide are so thick that they would be visible in this image. On GTA Forums there are suggestions that it's a S&W semi-auto. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 07:59, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
::The side rails on the AP pistol are just on the texture and not on the model aren't they? With a new skin the AP pistol could look totally different. Either way there isn't enough to go on from that shot to determine what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:17, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
:: It's difficult to tell. One other thing that makes me less convinced that it's the AP Pistol is that this gun has noticeable sights (The AP Pistol distinctly lacks them in all screenshots), and it seems to have a shorter barrel. It's almost definitely a separate gun, unless the customization options are more in-depth than we thought. Another suggestion might be a Taurus 24/7 or similar, as that gun is striker-fired, definitely comes in that finish, and has a similar sight profile from the top. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Side thought - is the AR that Franklin is holding missing the end of the buttstock or is that texture clipping? --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 15:10, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: Pretty sure that's just clipping. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

== Game Guide leak ==

Pics of the official game guide are turning up online.
http://imgur.com/a/ov4Rc#ZQjg5L3
http://imgur.com/a/vnbVM

No pics of the SMG or LMG sections yet. If you search for GTA V ammunation on youtube you'll find offscreen footage of a guy walking around the gun shop. You can see some sort of RPK clone on the wall.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:53, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
: No RPK, but the early game machine gun (the "MG") is pretty much just a PKM. Virtually all of the weapons in the game are already on the page. There's also an Assault Shotgun (which some say looks like a UTS 15 with a box magazine to resemble an AA-12), a sawed-off pump-action that may also be based on a Mossberg 500/590, the Combat Pistol (silver pistol held by Michael in the recently released trio pic, which reminds me of a Taurus PT 24/7 or Ruger P-series like the P97 with a stainless slide), and a Taser. The "unknown pistol" in the article is the PT92, which is apparently chambered in .45 ACP with a standard 12 round magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 00:05, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

== New SMG ==
This is an exclusive unlock for joining the Rockstar social club.

[[File:SC SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Not sure what it is myself. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:31, 13 September 2013 (EDT)

As far as I can see, it's 100% fictional. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 05:06, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yeah, seems so. And ugly as hell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:08, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:I see a birdcage flash hider, and the rest looks like the Halo 2/3 Battle Rifle. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 00:11, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

::Now that you mentioned that, I looked up what Halo battle rifle looks like, and I think this submachine gun might have also borrowed some design decisions from Halo's submachine gun. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:It also has a resemblance to the RCP-120 from Perfect Dark. [[User:RadiumMetal|RadiumMetal]] ([[User talk:RadiumMetal|talk]]) 17:21, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

== Barrett M-107 A1? ==

[[File:GTA5SNIPER1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

The muzzle brake and the right side of the gun, and also the color is very similar to the M-107 A1 than the AS50, is it real?

Check out the Gyazo link in my posts above. If you pause at the right moment, the rifle is a Barrett with a raised full length rail.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:36, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

== Combat Pistol ==

After unlocking the Combat Pistol in the game and using it quite a bit I'm thinking that it resembles some sort of HK pistol. Initially I thought it was like a USP Compact but I've thought it might be more like a HK45 or HK45c. I'm not sure though as at first I thought it was a Px4. Anyone else have any ideas what it could be? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 10:39, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
:The [http://gta.wikia.com/Weapons_in_GTA_V GTA Wiki] lists the combat pistol as the Taurus (well, they say Beretta but we know what they mean), or is that not the case in the final game? Also, that page has a picture of the assault shotgun, which appears to be an [[UTAS UTS-15]] which has been slightly messed with and had a box mag stuck on the bottom. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::The basic pistol is the Taurus not the combat pistol. They list the basic pistol as a P99 so it could be that the combat pistol is a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:53, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::I concur, the Combat Pistol definitely looks like a P99 to me. Glad they didn't rehash the 1911 or Glock again for the umpteenth time (not that I don't love 1911s and Glocks, I very much do ;D ). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Having got a decent look at it today I don't think it's a P99. It's got an exposed hammer and the general shape it more like a Beretta Px4 having taken a much closer look at it. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 18:45, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm only going by a tiny thumbnail (don't have the game) but it looks a bit like a [[CZ-G2000]] with a less sever angles around the trigger. This is pretty similar to the PX4, but I think it is a closer match as it has a square trigger guard and doesn't have an ambi safety (thumbnail I've seen is of the right side which lacks a safety). The profiling of the slide is also closer and the serrations look the same design (although there is one less band at both the front and back). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:37, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'd rather say a Px4 at this point. I've seen it up close (I DO have the game) and it looks a lot more like it was based on the Px4. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:06, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::I'm going to say having spend about half an hour moving the camera around trying to get really close shots of it that it is a Px4 more than anything else. The slide profile matches, the frame matches, the back of it matches. The only thing that doesn't match is the width of the slide serrations but that could just be a texture choice. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 12:53, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to venture a guess and say it's a combo of a Px4 and a P99, with the Px4 traits shining out the most. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:05, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know who it was who put the combat pistol as the H&K P2000 but it looks nothing like that. If it looks like any H&K pistol it's either the HK45c or the P30. I'm still leaning towards the Beretta Px4 though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 08:30, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

Picked up the guide yesterday evening while I was out and the "Combat Pistol" shown in it matches the general shape of the P2000, actually. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:20, 29 September 2013 (EDT)
:No one else sees a bit of the PT-909 in it?
[[File:Tau.jpg|thumb|none|800px]]
Remember no gun will be an exact match. They're all tweaked.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 18:10, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/4758e01a97e67d85191a02b267d98a60.png
The trigger guard and rail look P2000, but the rest resembles the Px4 to me.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:13, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

== Combat MG ==
It's not a Stoner, but rather an M60/M249 hybrid. Basically the stock of an M60, while everything in front of is is M249. Making appropriate changes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

== Guns on the TV programs ==

Killed a bit of time as Michael and watched the TV at his house. One of the channels was a FIB program called 'The Underbelly of Paradise'. One of the highlights was a few weapons on a table and one of the guns was a SIG P220-series pistol. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 21:57, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

There's also a brief shot of an M1911A1 cycling on an old-style crime show/movie and if you watch Jimmy playing ''Righteous Slaughter'' (a CoD/MoH/BF parody) in his room, the game character uses an XCR and a stainless steel Desert Eagle wielded tandem with a knife in the Harris stance. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

And the preview for the in-game movie ''The Simian'', which I saw while hanging out with Jimmy at a movie theater, has several shots of Hunter attack helicopters and at least one clear shot of the M230 chain gun on one of them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:25, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

== What's up with the Carbine Rifle changes? ==

Uhhh... Guys? The new Carbine really looks like the LR-300 and I thought it was agreed on. I don't know why we needed the change. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 20:03, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't the one who changed it, but I 100% agree with the change. First off, it isn't an LR-300 as the overriding unique feature about the LR-300 is that it doesn't have a buffer tube. This gun has a buffer tube. That is before we even get into the fact that the game gun has different furniture and a VLTOR MUR receiver rather than the unique LR-300 one. As with most of the weapons in the game this appears to be a hybrid gun at best, so it can't really be given a proper ID other than a custom AR-15. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:12, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:The assault rifle looks like a Hecker & Koch HK416 to me. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 8:43 AM (EST)
::It isn't, as far as I can tell there is not a single part on this that matches the HK416: the upper has the brass deflector built into the front of the forward assist like on a VLTOR MUR; the magazine fence on an HK416 is rounded whereas on this it is flat making it look more like one of the many different billet lowers that are available from various manufacturers; the stock is an ACE stocj which appears to be incorrectly depicted as extendable; the handguard is possibly a Daniel Defence MFR, but if not is definitely isn't a piston HK416 one. None of these parts are really perfect matches, but seeing the quality of the models on the other guns this isn't really to be expected. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:36, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Hmm...after looking through the M16 gallery, and the Colt AR-15 identification guide, and doing some googling, It seems like it COULD POSSIBLY be a hybrid of a Daniel Defense MFR and ZM LR-300, while trying to look like a HK416 (beefy handguard and short barrel), I can't shake it, to me it screams Franken-HK416, don't know why. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 1:02 PM (EST)
::::Look at the forwards assist and brass deflector area of this gun:[[File:GTAV_AR15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Note how the forward assist is a large flat faced wedge with the plunger coming out the bottom half of it, with a brass deflector attached at the top front corner. Now compare that to the below image:[[File:NovesDiplomat.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Noveske Rifleworks N4 Diplomat with VLTOR Modstock, EOTech sight and Surefire M900 weapon-light fore-grip - 5.56x45mm]]Notice they are a match. This is a unique thing that is only found on VLTOR MUR and VIS upper receivers (one pictured above is a VIS, MUR is the version without a monolithic handguard) and is due to the forward assist being able to be removed and replaced with a blanking plate fitted only with a brass deflector. Both the HK416 and the Z-M variants used different upper receiver designs to this, so it isn't either of them. I doubt that this is any factory gun in particular, it could be that the modellers just picked and chose various parts and stuck them together to make a gun they liked the look of, or it could be modelled off of a real custom gun that somebody has made. I don't get why people seem to think this is a HK416 (not just you, have seen people all over the place call it that) if the only thing they are going on is the fact it has a short barrel and a chunky handguard, there are a hell of a lot of guns that fit this description and are a closer match than an HK416, like this [[Media:POF P-416-11.JPG|Patriot Ordnance Factory P416]] for example. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:All the guns are hybrids, and the game's artists won't be familiar with the internals so I would go with the gun that is most similar in look, even if the similarities are all on the cosmetic parts and the dissimilarities affect the internals. Also the Combat SMG is an MP5 hybrid, not a Scorpion.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:15, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== pics of all guns except special edition weapons ==

I went and got the game guide. Here are pics of all the guns.

http://s13.postimg.org/5humxnsfr/gta_Weap.png

[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 15:23, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== ANALYSIS: Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 (Airsoft) ==

I've identified the firearm "Carbine Rifle", I analyzed it done here

[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-001.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]
[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-002.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]

Ace skeleton stock:

[[Image:Ace Stock Medium1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ace skeleton Stock]]

Reference: http://jagprecision.com/daniel-defense-m4-mfr-series-from-socom-gear/

PaulD21x (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2013 (VE)

Nailed it, nice.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:58, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:Not really, look a couple of sections above. The handguard is a Daniel Defence MUR (or at least a close approximation of one), but the upper receiver appears to be a VLTOR and the lower is not a DD one. Also you have the fact that the stock appears to be an Ace ARFX-E "Entry" stock which is the short one but this is fixed and not retractable, whereas this is extended out on the buffer tube like a regular AR-15 carbine style stock (I assume this is more due to ignorance rather than it being based on something else). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:43, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:I think it is a customized gun with a Daniel Defense MFR handguard, VLTOR MUR upper, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, the lower looks to be a NorthTech Billet receiver (with de fix trigger guard), the front BUIS is like a Troy Front sight and the rear a A2 type but simplified (or an unknow model), Hogue pistol grip (or any other model) and the ACE stock (but we can see they are nothing to move it because it is a fix stock and not a telescopic, an error). But it is not a basic model for me. --[[User:ArmaLite15|armalite15]] ([[User talk:Armalite15|talk]])

== "Combat Pistol" ==

Me again, noting that you guys missed a pistol.

Of course, this pistol is simply called the "Combat Pistol" and resembles the Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in a way. I have no way of getting screens and I haven't seen any so far. I haven't progressed far enough into the game to unlock it, but it can be viewed at the Ammunation stores if anyone had the game and wants to look. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:12, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
:No, we haven't missed it. Read a couple discussions above, we're still trying to come to a consensus on what it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:51, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

Ah, I see sorry. I missed that discussion. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:03, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

== Phone shots ==

So I hear you could take snaps using the in-game smart phone. Would it be possible to get some screenshots that way? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:37, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure, you have to sign up to Rockstar Social Network to do it, and I ''bet'' it watermarks them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:45, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
::Actually there is no watermark, but these pictures are only 640x360, and have a filter added that makes them look like low quality analog picture.--[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 15:34, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't think you can take phone pictures while armed, although you might get some from cops or security guards with guns, and take photos in the Ammu-Nation.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 21:30, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== In case you're wondering... ==

Cleetus' second hunting mission is bugged (hopefully forever) and when he tells you to hunt the last Elk it lets you wander the entire map with no possibility of triggering a police alert, meaning you can wander around in the military base to your hearts' content. You can keep anything you take by just causing an explosion (''anywhere'' on the map, but the jet's missiles don't count) which will spook the elk and let you quit out of the mission. I can't find anywhere to store the tank that Trevor can own, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:49, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm gonna have to exploit that. I've tried constantly to get a Titan, but I can never get it off the ground before a tank blows me up. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:54, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== Can we just settle on the "Carbine Rifle" by describing the components that it's constructed from? ==
It's obvious that it's not any named product (like the DDM4 it's currently IDed as but clearly is not), so can we just call it a custom AR-15 (like we do other franken ARs), ID it by its individual components, then be done with it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:30, 3 November 2013 (EST)

Moving these here for now, since I've changed the Carbine Rifle entry to reflect that it is ''not'' a DDM4.
[[File:DDM4sbr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DDM4 300 SBR with Magpul MOE stock, Magpul PMAG magazine, and KAC vertical foregrip - 300 BLK]]
[[Image:AF02-F-OT-ARFXE-ARULE-5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ace Skeleton Stock]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:53, 19 November 2013 (EST)

== Beach Bum pistol ==

A new handgun will be added in the next update/free DLC, called the "SNS"

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/xbox360/gta5/screens/gta5_269_605x.jpg

Probably a movie reference, perhaps it's a Walther PP of some form.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2013 (EST)

Beach Bum pack is out, the SNS pistol looks like a Heckler & Koch P7 M13 fitted with wood grips and a round trigger guard.[[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 20:01, 19 November 2013 (GMT)

== Gun pic on Social Club ==

Close view of the most used gun can be seen in the Social Club.

[[File:SocialClubAR15.jpg]]

This is a Northtech Billet lower, VLTOR Upper, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip but the upper is strange, it is raised up like the HK-416. And the handguard is very close to the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0..[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 19:43, 17 November 2013

== "Carbine Rifle" mounting an image ==

Since I edited the image from Photoshop, is a mixture: that's to HK-416 - Northtech Billet lower, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, Ace Skeleton Stock And the handguard is the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0
[[File:GTAVCARBINERIFLEMIXTURE.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 21:23, 21 November 2013

Is that a Pimpmygun pistol grip? [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:06, 21 November 2013 (EST)

No, I'm pretty sure he just Shopped in the grip from the Social Club image above. Also, if you wanted to create a composite, you could have just done an image search for the actual lower receiver used (I found plenty on Bing), because as has been previously stated, '''not a single component on this gun corresponds to the HK416'''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:39, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:There is possibly part of an HK416 potentially in there, as in the social club image you can see that the shape of the top rail at the rear steps down ahead of the charging handle like an HK416, which is not the case with a VLTOR MUR which the rest of the receiver is. This composite photoshop just uses a vanilla HK416 upper though which is not correct for the game gun. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:15, 22 November 2013 (EST)

It's all moot now, because I've solved the image problem. Found this during a Bing search for "gta v carbine rifle".

[[File:GTA5-Carbine-Rifle-Example.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The in-game "Carbine Rifle" - 5.56x45mm]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:On seeing that, it looks like it has an HK416 gas block as well. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 22 November 2013 (EST)

I think the rifle may just have an HK416 upper receiver, Daniel Defense has started to make rails for it in the same style as the MFR and it fits on any standard AR lower, so that simplifies the whole description of it being a mishmash of parts. [[User:Recon42|Recon42]] ([[User talk:Recon42|talk]]) 14:11, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
:Well ok but the image is too old and is not very bad does not seem like a rifle in game, then I'll ride currently photoshop to enhance the pieces, the rest of the firearm. [[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 17:41, 06 September 2014 (VST)

== Combat MG ID and non-player weapons ==
This is a response to Ultimate94 recently changing the MK46 Mod 0 ID back to Mod 1. The Mod 1 lacks a 12 o'clock Picatinny, using the M249 heat shield instead. This was done, AFAIK, to facilitate the re-inclusion of the carry handle. The Combat MG has a Picatinny rail in this position (albeit a low profile one), which would therefor make it a Mod 0. The weapon render linked to on the GTA Wiki is far too small to discern any details from, so doesn't prove anything.

Why were the non-player weapons added back to the main categories? Every other GTA game on IMFDb is formatted with non-player weapons in a separate "Other" category. What's the objection to this page being the same?

The artwork of Michael holding the MK18 doesn't appear in the game as a loading screen (unlike the Type 56 artwork), so it should be deleted from the page. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:42, 30 December 2013 (EST)

:It's been five months now and no one has responded, so I'm moving the non-player weapons to their own category and marking the MK18 artwork for deletion. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:49, 15 May 2014 (EDT)

== Valentines Day M1928 Thompson ==
So there's going to be a free Chicago Typewriter coming up.
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/news/article/52186/Coming-this-Friday-The-GTA-Online-Valentine-s-Day-Massacr[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:23, 11 February 2014 (EST)

It's classed as an LMG in-game, with superior stats compared to the PKM (except for mag capacity), making it a good choice for anyone who hasn't unlocked the PKM, or someone who can live without the extra ammo capacity or aim-down-sight zoom (Tommy Gun doesn't get an optic) until they unlock the M249/M60 hybrid --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (EST)

You can acquire a PKM in a few places right at the start of the game if you know where to look, though. Inside the gate at the Vagos' compound in East LS, for example (as long as you aren't wearing Families colors, you'll have plenty of time to get in and out before their threats turn into gunfire... usually). You just can't buy any mods for it yet. Quite a few weapons are ripe for the picking if you know where to look, actually. Type 56, MP5, MGL, AW, Minigun (''extremely'' hard to get as it's inside Fort Zancudo, though), Super Shorty, RPG, Assault Shotgun (another hard one to get, as it's pretty deep inside the Altruists' mountain compound), grenades, Jerry can, and Molotov cocktails. The Mossberg Cruiser can be acquired quite easily from police as long as you escape your wanted level quick, or if you happen upon a chase and follow until it erupts into a shootout (the criminals usually win LOL). A Carbine Rifle can also be effortlessly acquired from an isolated Merryweather mercenary at their LS Port "turf" if one is careful (I wouldn't advise trying to get one from the LSPD officers lingering around LS International, though). I like having the Thompson in the game, don't get me wrong, but it's largely a gimmick weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 05:44, 8 March 2014 (EST)

== Removing images ==

I'm in favor of keeping the PKM image on the page, but only because this page is currently incomplete and it's the only screenshot available. I expect a better image will be available when more screencaps are available and the page is completed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:49, 25 February 2014 (EST)

== Cut weapons ==

So I just found this, worthy of mention in the discussion page at least:
http://gtaforums.com/topic/678397-the-gta-v-beta-hunt/page-6

In addition to several melee weapons, there are some icons for the XM25, a DMR variant of the AR-15 (seems to be referred to as M14), a HK21, and a SCAR-H.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:44, 26 February 2014 (EST)

A poster there states they weren't cut, but rather just aren't enabled for player use. So maybe Rockstar is holding them back as future DLC? I'd love to have that AR-15 sniper rifle (which resembles an M110A1, which, AFAIK, is an M110 with the fixed stock replaced with a collapsible one). I always felt the next upgrade from the bolt action should have been a semi-auto .308, with the Barrett placed in the slot with the MGL, RPG, and Minigun, and made to do more damage to vehicles. The stock on the SCAR's in-game render looks like it was taken from the LSAT machine gun, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:29, 26 February 2014 (EST)

== New upcoming DLC ==
The "Heavy Pistol" and "Special Carbine" will be released next week.
[[File:GTAV-HeavyPistol-SpecialCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
The carbine is clearly a G36K, but the pistol seems to be a 1911 of some kind. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:23, 27 February 2014 (EST)

From looking at the gun itself and at the Social Club page, I think the pistol looks a lot more like a 1911 than an FNX-45, or maybe some sort of Kimber-esque thing. The grip and grip panels look far more 1911 than FN. Cheers, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
*EDIT: here's a link that shows the Social Club image, and shows how it more resembles either a regular 1911 or some sort of Kimber-style tactical model: http://gta.wikia.com/Heavy_Pistol [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

It most resembles a [[Springfield_Armory_1911_Series#Springfield_Armory_Tactical_Response_Pistol_.28TRP.29|Springfield TRP Operator]] with the slide derived from the OTs-33 to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:44, 4 March 2014 (EST)

definitely looks like a Springfield TRP operator with mabye some cz97 http://www.lipseys.net/images/CZ01411.jpg?maxwidth=520--[[User:Anarchy66660|Anarchy66660]] ([[User talk:Anarchy66660|talk]]) 22:03, 4 March 2014 (EST)

That's definitely a TRP Operator frame, the new pistol doesn't resemble an FNP very much. The slide looks like a flatter version of a normal 1911.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:43, 4 March 2014 (EST)

== Heavy Pistol ==

Could the heavy pistol be an Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911?
[[File:Steel_Full_Rail_Gun_5.jpg|thumb|none|350px|]]
The slide is very flat like the heavy pistol, they both have the full dust cover rail, wide rear cocking serrations, and lack of front cocking. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2014 (EST)

I think you got it, looks dead on to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:01, 8 March 2014 (EST)
:It is pretty close, but I think that is just coincidence. There are a number of differences that suggest it is not based on this gun such as the fibre optic sights, different numbers of slide serrations, lack of a beavertail (or in fact a grip safety at all by the look of it), a seemingly changeable curved backstrap, slanted rather than vertical trigger guard front, different grips, and most definitively the fact that it has a single rather than double stack frame. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:29, 8 March 2014 (EST)
::None of the guns in the game are exactly modeled after anything. The Taurus has a different number of slide serrations, a different hammer, etc. Hell, look at the "Desert Eagle." The Heavy Pistol is at least a lot closer to this gun, than the Operator. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:12, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
:::To me it seems much more likely that the guy who made it simply messed around with a standard 1911 rather than modelling it after a relatively obscure custom gun though. To be honest a lot of the gun IDs on this page are pretty far fetched, in particular the so-called "OTs-33 Pernach" which looks absolutely nothing like one (to me this gun actually looks like it is the bottom half of a 2nd series [[Colt Woodsman]] with some tactical crap slapped on the top). Weapons which appear to be fictional but bear a vague (possibly coincidental) resemblance to something real should not be definitely listed as this (such as saying that "The Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911, released with the "Business Update" DLC, appears as the Heavy Pistol." which is not really the case). For most of these guns the proper thing to do would be to have the heading for the section be, for example, "Heavy Pistol" and state underneath that it is a 1911 type pistol bearing some similarities to the Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911 but with several notably differences. Similarly for the "Special Carbine", not a single part of that is actually taken from a real Heckler & Koch G36C, it is just a random collection of different parts (some of them real, like the [http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-pistol-grips/id-1/m16-m4-ar15-tactical-ergonomic-pistol-grip.html FAB Defense AG-43 AR-15 pistol grip]) which have been assembled into the vague shape of a G36C--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:17, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
::::I think the SpeCarbine has G36K resemblence in the upper receiver/ handguard and top rail, just a lot more flat than the real thing. The AP pistol definitely has a Woodsman grip, the slide was probably incorrectly based on a Kriss KARD. The frame of the SNS pistol resembles the HK P7M10, too.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:23, 2 April 2014 (EDT)

== Bullpup Rifle ==
It looks like it has a 7.62x39mm AK magazine, so shouldn't it go in the rifles category despite it being classified as an SMG in-game? Same goes for the "Assault SMG", which clearly has a 20-round AR-15 mag. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:18, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think it was put in the SMG category by accident, "Bullpup Rifle" clearly indicates it is going to be classified as an assault rifle. Looks like a hybrid of the QBZ-95 and it's B carbine.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:48, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think that it's a shame that it's a QBZ at all and not the L85 it looked like in one piece of concept art (below) [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
[[File:Gtao-hl-bpr.jpeg]]

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/fa03-right.jpg

I think it's a FA 03 (LAPA FA-03).

[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 15:18, 23 June 2014 (EDT)

It was probably meant to be an amalgamation, as most of these guns are, as the magazine, handguard, barrel length and rear sight were clearly L85, whereas the front sight and carry handle were FA 03. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]]) 09:28, 18 August 2014 (EDT)

== AP Pistol ==

I just saw this on Modern Firearms. http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/scamp-e.html Does anyone else think the AP Pistol looks more like the Colt SCAMP than the OTs-33 Pernach? [[User:Rockinthecasbah|Rockinthecasbah]] ([[User talk:Rockinthecasbah|talk]]) 18:35, 10 April 2014 (EDT)

Can't see any resemblance myself, not that it looks like a Pernach either, but it really, really doesn't look like the SCAMP [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

There are a few similarities in shape and layout to the SCAMP. The squared slide/frame, the ejection port, the central alignment of the barrel. It's not perfect, but all the guns in this game have had creative licenses taken by the designers. There are no specific similarities between the AP Pistol and the OTs-33. [[User:Rockinthecasbah|Rockinthecasbah]] ([[User talk:Rockinthecasbah|talk]]) 16:37, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
:Rather than rolling back edits without explanation, work it out here. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 23:51, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
::The page is locked again, for one week this time. Like I said, work it out here. Present your arguments and your evidence. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 02:10, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Another week and no discussion. Very well. If this edit warring continues, bans will be issued. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 02:44, 3 June 2014 (EDT)
== Love all the vehicles and weapons as free DLC, I really do, but... ==
It would be nice if we got something other than just pistols and assault rifles. There's already more of those than any other weapon type. I wish they'd add some of the cut weapons detailed a few sections up (M110-style sniper rifle, XM25-style grenade launcher, etc.) in addition to new stuff. Would love an MP7A1 and a Carl Gustav rocket launcher, for example. Maybe add some new weapon attachments like laser sights and different optics. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:06, 13 May 2014 (EDT)

== New weapons leaked? ==

Hey I found this surfing web: http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/leaked-future-dlc-weapons.1141769/
There is a picture showing some icons for weapons that already have been added and some that we will probably see in future. 

http://i.imgur.com/S5amZ8I.png - icons 

http://i.imgur.com/F8T96mT.png - textures for weapons

New weapons include: HK21 MG, SCAR-H, pistol and a knife --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 02:22, 29 May 2014 (EDT)

:See my post on the cut weapons above, although it's entirely possible the HK21 and SCAR are being re-added from cut content. The pistol looks new, too. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 09:34, 29 May 2014 (EDT)

== Snipers rifles ==

Some changes should be made to the sniper rifles on the page, (The page is now indefinitely protected due to edit warring in which I was involved, but I won't change that edit again. Can someone of the admins remove the protection?) The bolt-action sniper rifle in-game is an AWM, not a standard AW, since the weapon model shows a folding stock (although in this case the 10-round mag would be incorrect). As for the "Heavy Sniper", I think that it's an M82, since the weapon's appearance in-game doesn't seem to match the rail system seen on the M107. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 08:30, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
:I've unlocked it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:48, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
::As with the vast majority of the guns on this page, it is not a perfect match for any particular AI rifle. However, I would say that it is more accurate to call it a standard AW as opposed to an AWM. If you look at the ejection port it appears to be the shorter one which is on the AW as the recess in the stock beneath is notably larger, as opposed to on the AWM where the port is almost the same size as the recess. Also, just because it has a folding stock does not make it an AWM, they make AWs with folding stocks such as [[Media:Arctic Warfare Folding Stock.jpg|this]], just like they make AWM with fixed stocks like [[Media:AWSM fixed.jpg|this]]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:30, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
:::Mmm... I understand. And what about the Barrett? (And a question: is it ''always'' the case for an AW to have a 10-rd mag and for an AWM to have a 5-rd one? Or can these capacities vary?) --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 04:36, 8 June 2014 (EDT)
:::Isn't it more accurate to put the Barrett M82 instead of the M107? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 14:42, 10 June 2014 (EDT)
::::Not really, as the main difference between the two is the sight rail and the rail used on this matched neither (M82A1 is short raised, M107 is long low). The other difference would be the rear grip on the butt, but as this model is horrifically inaccurate and omits this whole area that doesn't really help. You could say that it is slightly closer to an M82A1 (not M82, that it is the original version which is noticeably different) as the riser for the rail is slotted, but you could also argue that it is closer to an M82A3 as it has a raised rail stopping a couple of inches short of the front of the handguard. I would either just identify it as a "Barrett M82 Series" rifle or (more preferably in my opinion) just call it the "Heavy Sniper" and say that it is based on an M82 series rifle with a number of differences (presence of a cheek rest, lack of a grip on the butt, wrong magazine which looks more like a giant M14 one, different scope rail, odd handguard that looks like it can accept side rails like some AR-15 handguards/monolithic uppers, different muzzle brake, unfluted barrel, etc.). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:18, 10 June 2014 (EDT)

== Carbine Rifle 2.0 ==
[[File:Tokyo Marui M4 S-System.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Tokyo Marui M4 S-System]]
It's kinda obvious that the carbine rifle is not based on a specific variant, but here's something resembling it (although the length of the forearm & barrel are obviously different). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 17:38, 5 July 2014 (EDT)

:They're both AR-15 based, but beyond that, the TM S-System bares no resemblance at all to the Carbine Rifle. Handguard is wrong, sights are wrong, barrel length and flash hider are wrong, and receiver components are wrong. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:53, 6 July 2014 (EDT)

== Piece of advice ==
If you've bought the Collector's or Special Edition of this game and Rockstar Support suggests you uninstall and reinstall the patches/DLC in response to any problems you're having, '''don't do it'''. I did this after the monster truck, motorcycle, and firework launcher from the Independence Day DLC disappeared from my game and now all my Special Edition bonuses (Desert Eagle, KSG, blimp, and extra weapon tints) are gone and (so far) unrecoverable. :( They gave me $500K GTA bucks for use in GTA Online as compensation (which I'm happy with), but I'm still saddened by the loss of my SE stuff. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:05, 9 July 2014 (EDT)

== These guns ==

I can give some leeway to games set in the near future (Black Ops II, Advanced Warfare, Titanfall, Ghost Recon Future Soldier, Homefront, etc.), but these guns look so hideous looking. How can you botch these up so badly? I can understand if Rockstar was trying to make "generic" guns, but they did a good job with GTA IV, RDR, and Max Payne 3, and suddenly they make guns that look like generic rip-offs. - [[User:1morey]] August 14, 2014 7:21 PM (EST)

Gotta agree. I expected better from R*. At least there are still reconizable ones such as the RPG-7 and the Type 56-2.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 19:36, 14 August 2014 (EDT)

:I think it's supposed to be the same approach that they take with cars, really. I appreciate the customization and more detailed reloads though.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:26, 14 August 2014 (EDT)

I have no problem with their looks, as it makes sense from an in-universe perspective to have frankenguns just like they have frankencars, I just wish they'd go all the way and give them less generic names. There are already a few firearm manufacturers named in the game. The MP5, PT92, Combat Pistol, and KSG are made by "Hawk and Little", and the Carbine Rifle and M82 are made by "Vom Feuer", for example. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:14, 6 November 2014 (EST)

== New screenshot for Xbox One, Playstation 4 and PC ==
New screenshots revealed by Rockstar Games for Xbox One, PS4 and PC.
[[File:GTAV-ScreenshotXBOXONEPS4PC-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:GTAV-ScreenshotXBOXONEPS4PC-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:GTAV-ScreenshotXBOXONEPS4PC-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:GTAV-ScreenshotXBOXONEPS4PC-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 21:23, 16 September 2014 (VST)

== Marksman Rifle ==

Although the barrel assembly matches the M14, I think the "Marksman Rifle" has some resemblance to a Ruger Mini-30 in the Clyde Armory SCAR stock
http://clydearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/l/clyde_armory_scar_stock_mini30.jpg

[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 09:08, 3 October 2014 (EDT)
:I personally believe that it was probably modeled off a picture of a Mini-14 with a barrel stabilizer, giving it the look of an M14 gas tube. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 21:32, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

== Eww ==

Huh. Is it just me, or are the weapon models in this game amazingly ''ugly''? Not Dead Island levels of atrocious, but just kind of...off. --[[User:Gunmaster2011|Gunmaster2011]] ([[User talk:Gunmaster2011|talk]]) 23:28, 27 October 2014 (EDT)

== R5? ==

It seems that the carbine rifle has some components similar to that of the [[Remington R5 RGP]] (excluding the handguard and barrel lenght). Any ideas? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 05:45, 28 October 2014 (EDT)

What specific components are you referring to? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:53, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:Only similarity I see is the AAC Blackout flash hider......[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 15:51, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, the flash hider, as well as the pistol grip and some receiver components. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 16:56, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:::Which part of the receiver? Thing is, the Ergo Grip and flash hider aren't specific to the R5, so I feel as stated above, the Carbine Rifle is a frankenArmalite of sorts.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:17, 28 October 2014 (EDT)

I just don't get why people can't accept that this is an unnamed frankengun and not an existing named model. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 23:31, 16 December 2014 (EST)
:That's why I talked about some components, not the entire weapon :P --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 09:56, 29 December 2014 (EST)

== Rail Gun ==
It's one of the current gen exclusives.

[[File:GTAV-RailGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

What section on the page should it go on? Launchers? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:24, 28 October 2014 (EDT)

== First Person Mode ==

So the weapons look far more detailed in the new version:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/11/04/grand-theft-auto-v-a-new-perspective
[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 18:09, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:New PC is seeming a better idea every day. Hope it supports SLI properly rather than using some horribly gimped engine like Wolfenstein did. Also hope there's more heist missions in single this time around. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 18:25, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::PC version will require 65 gigs of HD space o_O [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 20:54, 15 January 2015 (EST)

== Carbine Rifle (Next Gen) ==

See more detailed, appear in the trailer for PS4 and Xbox One). You can see "5.56mm" and others. They are visible, while the previous version (Xbox 360 and PS3) did not like this.
Puts 0:43 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFhkHFSytVU&feature=youtu.be
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 00:24, November 2014 (VST)
:And first-person model [http://gta.wikia.com/File:VomFreuer-GTAV-reload.jpg here]. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 14:26, 11 November 2014 (EST)

== GRAND THEFT AUTO 5 ONLINE HEISTS (FINALLY) REVEALED ==

Here's news from IGN, the incredible video, more weapons, screenshot and others. [http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/16/grand-theft-auto-5-online-heists-finally-revealed?watch=&utm_campaign=fbposts&utm_source=facebook here].
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 11:33, 16 December 2014 (VST)
:So how many more years do you think it'll be before they actually release it? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 11:09, 16 December 2014 (EST)
::Only I mean weapons are usable as Browning M2, the Russian DShK. [[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 12:05, 16 December 2014 (VST)
:::I would imagine the miniguns on the Lynx-like helo are as well. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 23:28, 16 December 2014 (EST)
You're right. It took a long time by R*.[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 12:10, 16 December 2014 (VST)
:Well, in their defense, the programming side of it was probably a ''lot'' harder than the interview lets on. Most gamers are an inconsiderate bunch who don't understand how difficult it really is to make these games. There are millions, possibly ''billions'', of lines of code running in the background and even so much as a single misplaced punctuation mark or simple misspelling can cause the game to crash. I personally would rather have heists ''working correctly'' instead of quick. It's messed up how people out there can decry a game's development process "taking too long", then complain when they end up with a bug-riddled game. You can either have quick or quality and I prefer the latter. Just to clarify, I'm not targeting anyone here as being like this, I'm just saying. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 23:28, 16 December 2014 (EST)
::Naw, that doesn't happen anymore, code's a lot more robust than old systems like BASIC and a lot of the error checking is automated. It's more like your body these days; it's not too hard to get it so it isn't doing quite what it's supposed to, but it takes some effort to outright kill it. And the biggest headaches are PC related because you have to deal with thousands of arbitrary configurations of hardware, drivers and software. Getting a new mode running for a game you spent, what, four years working on and based on an existing engine shouldn't take a year, most likely a lot of resources got eaten up by the next-gen version and heist mode for the last-gens got put on the back burner.
::Really it's not so much that it's taking too long as that they've spent a year saying it's coming soon. It would have been better if they'd just said it's ''not'' coming soon. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 01:39, 17 December 2014 (EST)

Also, '''AIRCRAFT CARRIER'''?! I really hope ''that'' gets stuck off shore somewhere in story mode, though I somehow doubt it :(. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]])
:Eh, given how much ocean there is, for all we know it could be there now. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 06:10, 17 December 2014 (EST)

Are we going to mention the Dillon Aero M134s (with anti-aircraft sights) fitted to the Huey seen in the trailer and screenshots. It also looks to be chin-mounted with a four-barreled variant of the M197 Vulcan, though seeing as how such a variant doesn't exist, I don't know if we just refer to it as a generic autocannon. Cheers, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]]) 14:34, 3 March 2015 (EST)

== Thomspon M1928A1 ==

Maybe it earlier M1921AC Thompson, only with horizontal foregrip?

:An M1921AC with a horizontal foregrip basically ''is'' an M1928A1, aside from internal differences which a videogame gun doesn't have. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:31, 26 December 2014 (EST)

== Airsoft replica? ==

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/02/1420575808-player-exclusive.jpg

When I was navigating on my statistic page in the social club website, I clicked on the link to have more information about the account transferring (old gen -> current gen) and I saw this drawing.

As you can see, the bottom looks like a high cap airsoft M16 USGI magazine, and the top doesn't have lips, and looks to be the top portion of an airsoft mag.

Maybe some guns in the game were rendered with airsoft model, like the Milkor MGL.

[[User:ArmaLite15|Armalite15]] 21:31, 6 January 2015 (CET)
:A lot of games use airsoft guns as models to render in-game weapons, so it's incredibly likely that Rockstar did this. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 01:26, 7 January 2015 (EST)

== Revolver on billboard ==
Found this. Colt Anaconda?

[[File:GTAV-Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:40, 22 February 2015 (EST)
: Well, while the frame and cylinder look a bit large, the gun seems to be blued, which, if you want to be technically accurate anyway, would make it a [[Colt Python]]. Anacondas are stainless-steel only. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 17:47, 22 February 2015 (EST)
::There's also two Colt SAA's is also present on the San Andreas Park Ranger logo
:: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131102155716/gtawiki/images/d/dc/Los-Santos-County-Seal.png [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:20, 22 February 2015 (EST)

Hitler: The Rise of Evil

2015-02-04T17:54:45Z

Sandymon: /* Vickers machine gun */

{{WIP}}

[[Image:Hitler - The Rise of Evil.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Hitler: The Rise of Evil'' (2003)]]

'''''Hitler: The Rise of Evil''''' is a 2003 Canadian historical drama about Adolf Hitler's early life, war-career and his rise to power. The series is in two parts and stars [[Robert Carlyle]] as Adolf Hitler. The rest of the cast includes, [[Stockard Channing]], [[Peter O'Toole]], [[Peter Stormare]], [[Thomas Sangster]], [[Matthew Modine]] and [[Liev Schreiber]].

'''The following weapons appear in the television miniseries ''Hitler: The Rise of Evil'':'''

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
Pistols are frequently shown and used, including by Hitler himself.

==Luger P08==
[[Image:P08Luger1917.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm. This is a 1917 dated handgun, thus it is a World War One firearm.]]
The Luger P08 is frequently shown in the series.

==Mauser C96==
[[Image:C96MauserRed9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mauser C96 "Red 9" Version for the German Army - 9x19mm. This model is World War One dated.]]
==Unknown==

==Unknown #2, possibly FN Model 1903 or Tokarev TT==

=Rifles=

==Mauser Gewehr 1898==
Hitler is seen carrying a Mauser Gewehr 1898 during his WW1 service.

==Unknown late mauser model, possibly the Karabiner 98k==
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

=Submachineguns=
==Bergmann MP18 or Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II==
A Nazi soldier is seen assassinating an "enemy of the state" with either a Bergmann MP18 or Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II.
[[Image:mp28.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II - 9x19mm]]

=Machineguns=
==ZB-53 / Vz.37 (Maxim MG08 mockup)==
The Germans in the trenches are seen using a Czech ZB-53 / Vz.37. whic has been modified to look like a historically accurate Maxim MG08.
[[Image:MaximMG08.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|An original Maxim MG08, heavy machine gun]]
[[Image:ZB-53.jpg|thumb|none|350px|An original Czechoslovakian ZB-53 / Vz.37.]]

==Vickers machine gun==
During the 1919 German Revolution, the anti-communist "Freikorps" are seen using what appears to be a Vickers Mk.1 machine gun against the communists.
[[Image:VickersMk1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Vickers Mk1 Machine Gun - .303 British]]

Hitler: The Rise of Evil

2015-02-04T17:54:02Z

Sandymon: /* Bergmann MP18 or Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II */

{{WIP}}

[[Image:Hitler - The Rise of Evil.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Hitler: The Rise of Evil'' (2003)]]

'''''Hitler: The Rise of Evil''''' is a 2003 Canadian historical drama about Adolf Hitler's early life, war-career and his rise to power. The series is in two parts and stars [[Robert Carlyle]] as Adolf Hitler. The rest of the cast includes, [[Stockard Channing]], [[Peter O'Toole]], [[Peter Stormare]], [[Thomas Sangster]], [[Matthew Modine]] and [[Liev Schreiber]].

'''The following weapons appear in the television miniseries ''Hitler: The Rise of Evil'':'''

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
Pistols are frequently shown and used, including by Hitler himself.

==Luger P08==
[[Image:P08Luger1917.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm. This is a 1917 dated handgun, thus it is a World War One firearm.]]
The Luger P08 is frequently shown in the series.

==Mauser C96==
[[Image:C96MauserRed9.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mauser C96 "Red 9" Version for the German Army - 9x19mm. This model is World War One dated.]]
==Unknown==

==Unknown #2, possibly FN Model 1903 or Tokarev TT==

=Rifles=

==Mauser Gewehr 1898==
Hitler is seen carrying a Mauser Gewehr 1898 during his WW1 service.

==Unknown late mauser model, possibly the Karabiner 98k==
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

=Submachineguns=
==Bergmann MP18 or Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II==
A Nazi soldier is seen assassinating an "enemy of the state" with either a Bergmann MP18 or Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II.
[[Image:mp28.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II - 9x19mm]]

=Machineguns=
==ZB-53 / Vz.37 (Maxim MG08 mockup)==
The Germans in the trenches are seen using a Czech ZB-53 / Vz.37. whic has been modified to look like a historically accurate Maxim MG08.
[[Image:MaximMG08.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|An original Maxim MG08, heavy machine gun]]
[[Image:ZB-53.jpg|thumb|none|350px|An original Czechoslovakian ZB-53 / Vz.37.]]

==Vickers machine gun==
During the 1919 German Revolution, the anti-communist "Freikorps" is seen using what appears to be a Vickers Mk.1 Machinegun agains't the communists.
[[Image:VickersMk1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Vickers Mk1 Machine Gun - .303 British]]

Talk:Let's Be Cops

2014-11-16T01:11:31Z

Sandymon:

Talk:Rainbow Six Siege

2014-09-28T13:03:28Z

Sandymon:

=Already...=
It seem that the M1911 Variant has an incorrect 10 rounds in a 8 rounds magazine. There is IN FACT a 10 rounds magazine for M1911s but it seem it's not in this one --[[User:James Dalcan|James Dalcan]]
[[File:10roundsm1911.jpg|thumb|600px|none|10 Rounds magazine .45 ACP for M1911 and Variants]]

== New footage ==

Numerous new features can be seen clearly here: the MP5 ingame is referred to as the MP5F and has an unusual crooked stock (12:17), there is a USP for the terrorists, various attachments for the G36C including an oddly-reticuled ACOG scope, and the identification (at least ingame) of the 1911 as the M45 MEUSOC. At this stage it would appear that the MP5 has replaced the Mac-10 as the terrorists' weapon of choice. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN9CMGuyGvQ

Talk:Rainbow Six Siege

2014-09-28T13:02:24Z

Sandymon: /* New footage */ new section

User:Sandymon

2014-09-17T17:18:45Z

Sandymon:

Hi there,

As a member of IMFDB for a number of years, often hiding in the shadows and rarely contributing, it is unlikely that anyone will ever visit this page. But, in case anyone does, I think it best to perhaps enlighten them about me.

Nationality: British 

Age: 18-24 

Gender: Male 

Interest in anime: Non-existent 

Interest in films: High 

Interest in television: High 

Interest in videogames: High 

Interest in firearms: High 

Interest in correcting others' mistakes: Unusually, yet not invasively, High 

That's about it, if anyone needs any help with anything, especially proofreading, just let me know, I'd be happy to help :)

[[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

<big><big>'''Favourite weapons'''</big></big>

'''<big>Handguns</big>'''

* Glock 21 and 41
* SIG P227
* Remington R1
* Colt Series 80
* High Standard 1911
* Ruger 22/45 Threaded
* FN Five-SeveN USG
* Webley Mk VI
* Welrod
* Walther P99/PPQ/PPX

'''<big>Long guns</big>'''

* Heckler and Koch 416 D10RS
* Heckler and Koch MP5 and SD variants
* Heckler and Koch G36C
* Short Magazine Lee-Enfields (especially the No.1 Mk.III* but also the No.4 Mk.I, the No.5 Mk.I and the L42A1)
* Ruger Mini-14 series (especially the now-discontinued Mini-6.8)
* L85A2 (post-2007 version)

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2014-09-10T16:06:48Z

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Strike Back - Season 3

2014-09-09T17:32:02Z

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[[File:StrikeBackS3.jpg|thumb|right|302px|''Strike Back - Season 3'' (2012) The UK Title is ''Strike Back - Vengeance'' and the US title is ''Strike Back - Cinemax Season 2'']]

'''''Strike Back - Season 3''''' (also known as '''''[[Strike Back: Vengeance]]'' or ''[[Strike Back: Cinemax Season 2]]''''') once again stars [[Philip Winchester]] as Sergeant Michael Stonebridge and [[Sullivan Stapleton]] as Sergeant Damien Scott, who work for a top secret British intelligence unit known as Section 20. Season 3 introduces [[Rhona Mitra]] as Section 20's new commanding officer, and [[Charles Dance]] as villain Conrad Knox, a wealthy philanthropist who conspires to reshape the political landscape of Africa by acquiring nuclear weapons.

'''The following weapons were featured in Season 3 of the series ''[[Strike Back]]'':'''

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{{Spoilers}}

=Handguns=

==Beretta 92FS==

The [[Beretta 92FS]] is used by many of the antagonists throughout the series, including Conrad Knox ([[Charles Dance]]), his lieutenant Karl Matlock ([[Vincent Regan]]) and various mercenaries and criminals. South African Police Service (SAPS) officers in episodes 7-10 also use the Beretta 92FS.

[[File:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:SBS3-92FS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A plain-clothes SAPS officer fires a Beretta 92FS at a truck containing a stolen nuclear warhead in episode 9.]]
[[File:Strike BackS3 92FS2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Karl Matlock ([[Vincent Regan]]) firing his Beretta 92FS in (S3E05).]]

==Beretta 92SB==

A [[Beretta 92SB]] is used by Craig Hanson ([[Shane Taylor]]) when he infiltrates Knox's estate in episode 6. A 92SB is also used by the leader of a gang of mercenaries who take Section 20 prisoner in episode 7, and is later used by the teams Communications Officer, Sergeant Liam Baxter ([[Liam Garrigan]]).

[[File:BerettaM92SB.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta Model 92SB - 9x19mm (note rounded trigger guard and flat bottom magazine).]]
[[File:Strike BackS3 92FS1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sergeant Liam Baxter ([[Liam Garrigan]]) checks a Beretta 92SB in episode 5.]]
[[File:SBS3-92SB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craig Hanson pulls off his mask while holding a Beretta 92SB.]]
[[File:SBS3-92SB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary holds a Beretta 92SB.]]
[[File:SBS3-92SB-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dalton holds mercenary's Beretta 92SB in (S3E07).]]
[[File:SBS3-92SB-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sergeant Liam Baxter fires a Beretta 92SB.]]
[[File:SBS3-92SB-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Baxter empties his Beretta.]]

==Beretta 92==

In episode 10, Craig Hanson seizes a [[Beretta 92]] from a SAPS officer and uses it to escape police custody.

[[File:Beretta92oldest.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SBS3-92-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanson fires the Beretta 92 while restrained by a pair of flex cuffs.]]

==Glock 17==

The [[Glock 17]] is the standard pistol for all Section 20 personnel in Season 3, and is used by Sergeant Michael Stonebridge ([[Philip Winchester]]), Sergeant Damien Scott ([[Sullivan Stapleton]]), Captain (later Major) Rachel Dalton ([[Rhona Mitra]]), Sergeant Liam Baxter ([[Liam Garrigan]]) and Sergeant Julia Richmond ([[Michelle Lukes]]). Major Oliver Sinclair ([[Rhashan Stone]]) also briefly uses a Glock 17 to kill a Zimbabwean Central Intelligence Organisation (CIO) agent trying to kidnap Lillian Lutulu in episode 7. Matlock's partner Jessica Kohl ([[Natalie Becker]]) also wields a Glock 17.

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 (3rd Gen) - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 (2nd Gen) - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Tumblr_maaoq2SwjF1qj00dno1_500.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A publicity still of Stonebridge and Dalton with their Glocks.]]
[[Image:StrikeBackS3E051.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Michael Stonebridge firing his [[Glock 17]] in (S3E05).]]
[[File:StrikeBackS3E052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Scott fring his Glock in S3E05).]]
[[Image:StrikeBackS3E054.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge reloads his Glock in (S3E05).]]
[[Image:StrikeBackS3E055.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge firing his Glock in (S3E05).]]
[[Image:StrikeBackS3E061.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott aiming his Glock in (S3E06).]]
[[Image:StrikeBackS3E071.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Julia Richmond ([[Michelle Lukes]])firing Scott's Glock in (S3E07).]]
[[File:SBS3-G17-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Richmond holds a Glock 17.]]
[[File:SBS3-G17-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge ([[Philip Winchester]]) fires the suppressed Glock 17.]]
[[File:SBS3-G17-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Damien Scott ([[Sullivan Stapleton]]) aims a suppressed Glock 17.]]
[[File:SBS3-G17-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jessica Kohl ([[Natalie Becker]]) points a Glock 17 at a militant.]]

==Desert Eagle Mark VII ==

Somali warlord Waabri (Anthony Oseyemi) uses a [[Desert Eagle#Desert Eagle Mark VII|Desert Eagle Mark VII]] in the season premiere.

[[Image:DesertEagle357Black.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|Desert Eagle MK VII - .357 Magnum. This is the most commonly seen Desert Eagle pistol in films before 1999.]]
[[File:SBS3-DE-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Waabri fires his Desert Eagle.]]

==Colt M1911A1==

In episode 3, Scott takes a [[M1911A1]] pistol off Markunda when apprehending a courier named Othmani ([[Saïd Taghmaoui]]) at a Tuareg camp in Niger as his Glock had been confiscated. He returns it and subsequently Markunda ([[Laëtitia Eïdo]]) uses her M1911A1 in episode 4 while battling militants in the Hoggar Mountains of Algeria who are attempting to recapture Othmani.

[[Image:Colt1911A1PreWar.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Pre-War Colt M1911A1 Pistol Commercial - .45 ACP]]
[[File:SBS3-M1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott holds Markunda's M1911A1 after surviving a militant suicide bombing attack at the Tuareg camp.]]
[[File:SBS3-M1911-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Markunda guns down a militant with her M1911A1.]]

==Star Model BS/Model Super==

Islamist militant leader El Soldat ([[Farid Elouardi]]) uses a [[Star Model Super]] while attempting to free his captured brother Othmani in episode 4. A Nigerian gangster also waves one around in episode 10.

[[File:B-super-large.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Star Model BS/Model Super - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:SBS3-StarBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|El Soldat prepares to enter a farmhouse with a Star Model Super in hand.]]
[[File:SBS3-StarBS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Nigerian waves his Star Model Super.]]

==Vektor CP1==

In episode 5, Mossad agent Rebecca Levi ([[Lyne Renée]]) wields a [[Vektor CP1]] while attempting to hunt down a nuclear scientist named Peter Evans (Paul Freeman).

[[Image:VectorCP1PistolOtherSide.jpg |thumb|none|300px|Vektor CP1 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SBS3-CP1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebecca points the CP1 towards Scott.]]
[[File:SBS3-CP1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebecca opens fire with a suppressed Vektor CP1.]]

==Vektor SP1==

A [[Vektor SP1]] is used by one of the Israeli assassins who is trying to kill Evans in episode 5. In episode 7, Zimbabwean Central Intelligence Organisation (CIO) agents carry the SP1 when trying to apprehend Lillian Lutulu in Bukohma Township. Craig Hanson also uses a SP1 on several occasions, including when he encounters Stonebridge in episodes 6 and 10. Dual two-tone Vektor SP1s with compensators are used by a Nigerian warlord while fleeing the Johannesburg apartment of Christian Lucas (Nyasha Hatendi) in episode 9.

[[Image:Vektor_SP.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Vektor SP1 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SBS3-SP1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vektor SP1 tucked into an assassin's waistband.]]
[[File:StrikeBackS3E053.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craig Hanson fires his Vektor SP1.]]
[[File:SBS3-SP1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craig Hanson ([[Shane Taylor]]) holds a Vektor SP1.]]
[[File:SBS3-SP1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Nigerian warlord blasts away with dual SP1s.]]

==Browning Hi-Power==

In episode 7, an assassin uses a [[Browning Hi-Power]] to wound Zimbabwean activist Walter Lutulu ([[Eamonn Walker]]).

[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Classic Commercial Browning Hi-Power (Belgian Mfg) - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SBS3-BHP-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The assassin holds his Hi-Power while fleeing from the scene.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB==
One of Walter Lutulu's supporters points a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] revolver at Scott in Episode 7.

[[File:S&WModel10HB.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB, 4" barrel - .38 Special]]
[[File:SBS3-rev-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A revolver is pointed at Scott in Episode 7.]]

==CZ-75B==

Corrupt CIA Officer Christy Bryant ([[Stephanie Vogt]]) draws a two-tone [[CZ-75B]] when she is confronted by Scott in episode 10.

[[Image:CZ75BSS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|CZ 75B with stainless steel finish - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SBS3-CZ75-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bryant holds a two-tone CZ-75B.]]

=Submachine Guns=

==Armscor BXP==

Scott uses an [[Armscor BXP]] while defending a British diplomatic convoy from an attack by Somali militants in episode 1. He also uses a BXP with a reflex sight while infiltrating into Mogadishu to search for Dalton and Patrick Burton (Tim Pigott-Smith) after they were kidnapped in the attack. Later in the same episode, one of Matlock's mercenaries uses a BXP with an EOTech sight. A Mossad assassin in episode 5 also fires a BXP, and a Nigerian militant in episode 10 uses a BXP to cover his fleeing boss.

[[Image:MilkorBXP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Armscorp BXP - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:SBS3-BXP-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott opens fire with his BXP in episode 1.]]
[[File:SBS3-BXP-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott holds the BXP while reporting his position.]]
[[File:SBS3-BXP-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Mossad assassin fires a BXP.]]
[[File:SBS3-BXP-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Nigerian fires a BXP in episode 10.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3s]] are used by Nigerien special forces troops when they apprehend Scott in Episode 3. Johannesburg Special Task Force (STF) officers are also armed with MP5A3s in episodes 9 and 10.

[[File:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with "tropical" (wide) forearm and stock extended - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:SBS3-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nigerien special forces troops arrest Scott.]]
[[File:SBS3-MP5-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A STF officer aims a MP5A3 while searching a building.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW==

Rebecca Levi fires a [[Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]] when a Mossad strike team attacks Section 20's safe house in episode 5.

[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP5K-PDW with its extended barrel with 3 lugs & folding stock - 9x19mm ]]
[[File:SBS3-MP5K-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebecca opens fire with a MP5K-PDW.]]
[[File:SBS3-MP5K-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebecca exchanges fire with Stonebridge and Scott.]]

==MAT-49==

Nigerian militants in episode 10 are armed with [[MAT-49]] submachine guns.

[[Image:MAT-49.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|MAT-49 Submachine Gun - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SBS3-MAT49-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Nigerian opens fire with a MAT-49.]]
[[File:SBS3-MAT49-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another angle.]]

==PPS-43==

A few Nigerian militants also wield the [[PPS-43]] in episode 10.

[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Soviet PPS-43 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[File:SBS3-PPS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Nigerian attempts to pick up his PPS-43 when Section 20 commandos attack.]]
[[File:SBS3-PPS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Nigerian drops his PPS-43.]]

==Walther MPK==

The leader of the Nigerians fires a [[Walther MPK]] at Section 20 commandos when they raid his hideout in Episode 10.

[[File:WaltherMPK-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther MPK with stock folded - 9x19mm]]
[[File:SBS3-MPL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The warlord yells as he fires the MPK.]]
[[File:SBS3-MPK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MPK is fired in the drainage tunnels under Johannesburg.]]

=Shotguns=

==Unknown compact pump-action shotgun==

A female attacker uses a compact pump action shotgun during the convoy ambush in episode 1. The shotgun appears to be the same one used during the [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Talk:Chris_Ryan%27s_Strike_Back the first series.]

[[File:SBS3-shotgun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The attacker pumps her shotgun.]]
[[File:SBS3-shotgun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shotgun is fired.]]

==12 Gauge Double-Barreled Shotgun==

Scott uses a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] after running out of ammunition for his other weapons in Episode 4.

[[Image:CharlesParker1878Shotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Charles Parker 1878 Side by Side Shotgun - 12 Gauge. The Parker Gun Company was absorbed into Remington in 1934.]]
[[File:SBS3-shotgun-3.jpg|thumb|none|560px|Scott holds the double barreled shotgun.]]

==Mossberg 500==

SAPS Sergeant Moses Tekere (Mpho Malatsi) points a [[Mossberg 500]] (or possibly, the similar looking South African Mussler 12-gauge) at Stonebridge when he breaks into a police station in Episode 8 to hide the killer of activist Walter Lutulu ([[Eamonn Walker]]).

[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 "Persuader" with standard five-shot magazine tube - 12 Gauge. This is the most commonly produced version of the 500 series today.]]
[[File:SBS3-shotgun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Tekere holds the Mossberg on Stonebridge.]]
[[File:SBS3-shotgun-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge holds the shotgun after taking it from Tekere.]]

==Taser X12==
Stonebridge gets ahold of what appears to be a Mossberg 500 modified to resemble the [[Taser X12]] less-lethal shotgun in Episode 8, using it to fire XREP rounds to prevent angry protesters from breaking into the building.

[[File:TaserX12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Taser X12]]
[[File:SBS3-Tasersg-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge examines the less-lethal shotgun.]]
[[File:SBS3-Tasersg-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge grabs the shotgun as the protesters approach.]]
[[File:SBS3-shotgun-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Armsel Striker==
A Nigerian fires an [[Armsel Striker]] during the Section 20 raid in episode 10.

[[File:Striker.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Armsel Striker Shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]
[[File:SBS3-striker-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Nigerian dies while firing the Striker.]]

=Rifles=

==Heckler & Koch HK33 (Customized)==
SAS trainees who are being instructed by Stonebridge in Episode 1, including Craig Hanson's brother Jake, are armed with [[Heckler & Koch HK33]] rifles. The rifles have been extensively modified by series armorer Hire Arms, with a chopped down barrel similar in length to the HK33KA3, vented South African G3 handguards and a different trigger group than a factory HK33. The rifles are also adapted to use Vektor R4 polymer magazines rather than the standard metal magazines.

[[File:HK33K.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33KA3 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:SBS3-G3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge practices room clearing with a HK33.]]
[[File:SBS3-G3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jake Hanson (Cerith Flinn) advances with a HK33.]]
[[File:SBS3-G3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A crazed Hanson attempts to shoot a fellow recruit with his rifle.]]

==Heckler & Koch G3A4 (Customized)==
Stonebridge and Scott use [[Heckler & Koch G3A4]] rifles during their mission in Mogadishu. As with the HK33s, the G3A4s have been heavily modified with shortened South African-style vented handguards and a chopped down barrel that is shorter than a G3KA4 but longer than that of the MC51 carbine. The rifles also have laser aiming devices, Surefire flashlights and scopes.

[[Image:G3A4.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Heckler & Koch G3A4 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Philip-Winchester-in-STRIKE-BACK-Episode-3.01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Promo still of Stonebridge (Philip Winchester) with the G3A4]]
[[Image:Strike_Back_Vengeance.jpg|thumb|none|500px| Another still of Stonebridge with the G3]]
[[File:SBS3-G3-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott fires a G3A4.]]
[[File:SBS3-G3-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge searches a building.]]

==M4A1 Carbine==
Stonebridge, Scott and other Section 20 commandos use [[M4A1]] carbines in Niger during episodes 3 and 4. Other Section 20 operatives including Sgt. Richmond and Sgt. Liam Baxter ([[Liam Garrigan]]) also use M4A1 carbines when they attack Knox's disarmament plant in episode 6 and his mercenary camp in episode 8.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:Strike-back-two-new-clips-from-friday-night-s-episode.jpg|thumb|none|500px| Still of Richmond and Dalton with their M4s]]
[[File:SBS3-M4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge advances with a suppressed M4A1 in episode 3.]]
[[File:SBS3-M4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott is surrounded by Nigerien special forces.]]
[[File:SBS3-M4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge and Scott hold M4A1 carbines.]]
[[File:SBS3-M4-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge fires his M4A1, which has a Magpul P-mag.]]
[[File:SBS3-M4-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sergeant Liam Baxter holds a M4A1 as prepare to storm the Knox's disarmament plant in episode 6.]]
[[File:SBS3-M4-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Maj. Dalton fires her M4A1 in episode 6.]]
[[Image:Strike.Back.S03E06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge reloads his M4A1 in episode 6.]]
[[File:SBS3-M4-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Richmond fires her M4A1 in episode 8.]]

==AKMS==
Many of the antagonists in the series are armed with [[AKMS]] rifles, including Somali militiamen in episodes 1-2, El Soldat's men in episodes 3-4, and some of Knox's mercenaries in episode 8. Major Dalton ([[Rhona Mitra]]) and Patrick Burton ([[Tim Pigott-Smith]]) also use AKMS rifles in episode 2, as do Markunda's Tuareg bodyguards in episodes 3 and 4.

[[File:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS - 7.62x39mm.]]
[[File:SBS3-AKMS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Asmara (Melanie Liburd) opens fire with an AKMS in episode 1.]]
[[File:SBS3-AKMS-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militiaman fires his AKMS.]]
[[File:SBS3-AKMS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dalton wields an AKMS taken from an executed African Union soldier in episode 2.]]
[[File:SBS3-AKMS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Patrick Burton ([[Tim Pigott-Smith]]) holds an AKMS after gunning down a militiaman.]]
[[File:SBS3-AKMS-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Tuareg bodyguard fires his AKMS at Algerian militants.]]

==Zastava M70AB2==
[[AK-47#Zastava M70|Zastava M70AB2s]] are used by Somali militiamen in episodes 1 and 2. Stonebridge takes one from a dead AMISOM soldier in episode 2 while trying to hold off the Somali militia.

[[Image:Zastava M70AB2.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Zastava M70AB2 folding stock rifle - 7.62x39mm (non-standard pistol grip).]]
[[File:SBS3-M70AB2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires a M70AB2.]]
[[File:SBS3-M70AB2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge holds a M70AB2.]]
[[File:SBS3-M70AB2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge aims his M70AB2.]]
[[File:SBS3-M70AB2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Algerian militant fires a M70AB2 in episode 3.]]

==Norinco Type 56==
Various enemies wield [[Norinco Type 56]] rifles with attached bayonets throughout the series.

[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SBS3-T56-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires a Norinco Type 56.]]
[[File:SBS3-T56-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of El Soldat's men fires a Norinco Type 56.]]
[[File:SBS3-T56S-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Motorcycle-borne gunmen fire a Type 56.]]

===Norinco Type 56-1===
Markunda uses a [[Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]] while battling El Soldat's militants in the Hoggar Mountains of Algeria.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56-1 (under-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SBS3-T561-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militiaman fires a Type 56-1.]]
[[File:SBS3-T56S-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Markunda opens fire with a Type 56-1.]]
[[File:SBS3-T56S-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:SBS3-T56S-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Markunda tells her men to pull back.]]

==Vektor R5==
The [[Galil#Vektor R5|Vektor R5]] is the most common assault rifle in the latter half of the season, used by both Stonebridge and Scott, various South African Police Service (SAPS) officers and Special Task Force (STF) operatives, as well as by many of Knox's mercenaries. The rifles are seen in both unmodified form and in a tactical configuration with UTG quad rail mounts and CAA railed handguards, as well as various optical sights, Surefire tactical lights, and three prong flash hiders.

[[Image:VektorR5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vektor R5 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:24602-square.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Still of Stonebridge with his R5]]
[[File:SBS3-R5-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mercenaries set up an ambush in episode 5.]]
[[File:SBS3-R5-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary fires a Vektor R5.]]
[[File:SBS3-R5-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craig Hanson totes a Vektor R5 with a UTG quad rail system and an Aimpoint sight.]]
[[File:SBS3-R5-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Karl Matlock (Vincent Regan) fires his Vektor R5 during episode 8.]]
[[File:SBS3-R5-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott holds a R5 with a CAA railed handguard and ACOG sight in episode 10.]]
[[File:SBS3-R5-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stonebridge holds a R5 as Section 20 units prepare to storm the Nigerian hideout.]]

===Vektor R5 (Modified to resemble Modern AK-Series Rifle)===
The [[Galil#Vektor R5|Vektor R5]] rifle, modified to resemble the [[AKS-74]], is used by Scott in episode 1 to disrupt an attempt by Waabri to hand over Libyan nuclear triggers to Matlock. El Soldat brandishes a similar rifle in episode 4 while calling on his men to attack Stonebridge and Scott.

[[Image:VektorR5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vektor R5 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Aks-74m.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74 with synthetic furniture - 5.45x39mm]]
[[File:SBS3-R5AK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott fires at Matlock's mercenaries during a battle at a scrapyard.]]
[[File:SBS3-R5AK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The R5 is used to hold off waves of attacking Somali militiamen.]]
[[File:SBS3-R5AK-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|El Soldat orders his men to attack.]]

==Vektor R4==
The [[Galil#Vektor R4|Vektor R4]] is occasionally seen in the hands of Knox's mercenaries. Dalton uses a scoped R4 in episode 8 to provide sniper cover during Section 20's raid of a mercenary camp, with a short 10-round magazine. Some R4s in the series have carry handles and lack lightening cuts, which are not features of the standard R4.

[[Image:VektorR4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vektor R4 assault rifle of the South African forces with 50-round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:SBS3-R4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary fires his R4.]]
[[File:SBS3-R4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenary returns fire after being surprised by Stonebridge. This weapon is fitted with a carry handle, which is not present on South African made R4s. It also has a receiver which lacks the lightening cuts above the magazine, which were omitted on some commercial R4 receivers which were marketed as the "LM4".]]
[[File:Picture-of-rhona-mitra-in-strike-back-large-picture.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dalton providing sniper cover with the R4. Note the small capacity mag and that her R4 has the lightening cuts and lacks the carry handle as an R4 should.]]
[[File:SBS3-R4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dalton looks through the scope of a R4.]]

==Vektor CR-21==
Knox's mercenaries are also seen wielding [[Vektor CR-21]] rifles, most notably during a battle at Greenpont Stadium in episode 5 and when Section 20 attacks Knox's nuclear facility in episode 6. The CR-21s have shortened barrels and Leupold CQ/T scopes.

[[Image:Vektor-cr21-1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Vektor CR-21 bullpup rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[File:SBS3-CR21-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary prepares to ambush Stonebridge and Scott at the stadium.]]
[[File:SBS3-CR21-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A CR21 is fired by a mercenary in episode 6.]]

==Norinco Type 84S==
Matlock uses a customized [[AK-47#Norinco Type 84|Norinco Type 84S]] in episodes 2, 4 and 6. The rifle is modified with an [[AK-74]]-style muzzle brake, picatinny rails, a scope and a Galil-style folding stock.

[[File:NorincoType84SFolder.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 84S - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[File:SBS3-T84-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Matlock holds a Type 84 in episode 4.]]
[[File:SBS3-T84-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Matlock provides covering fire as mercenaries escape Knox's nuclear facility with several warheads.]]

==Vz. 52 Rifle==
A Tuareg warrior is seen with a [[Czech Vz. 52 Rifle]] as Stonebridge and Scott enter Markunda's camp.

[[Image:VZ52Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Czech VZ52 rifle, sometimes called the CZ52 or the S.H.E. rifle, is a carbine that was chambered in both 7.62x45mm and 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SBS3-VZ52-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tuareg warriors bring Scott to their leader.]]

==FN FAL==
A guard at Knox's nuclear facility in episode 6 is seen holding a [[FN FAL]].

[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|none|400px| FN FAL 50.00 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:SBS3-FAL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A guard with a FN FAL is taken out by Stonebridge.]]

=Sniper Rifles=

==FPK/PSL Sniper Rifle ==
Jessica Kohl uses a [[FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle]] to shoot a Libyan official in episode 1 as he gives a set of nuclear triggers to Waarbri.

[[Image:Romanian-FPK-PSL.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Romanian FPK/PSL sniper rifle - 7.62x54mm R.]]
[[File:SBS3-PSL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kohl fires the FPK / PSL.]]

==Truvelo CMS Sniper Rifle==
Craig Hanson fires what appears to be a [[Truvelo CMS Sniper Rifle]] at the end of episode 2.

[[Image:Truvelo308sniper.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Truvelo Armory CMS Sniper Rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:SBS3-sniper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hanson looks up after firing the CMS.]]

==Unidentified AICS rifle==
Matlock gives Kohl a custom sniper rifle in an Accuracy International Chassis System (AICS) as a gift in episode 3. She uses the rifle on several occasions, including in Algeria in episode 4 and during the stadium battle in episode 5. The action inside the chassis is not a [[Remington Model 700]] as would regularly be mounted in an AICS, as identified by the polygonal rather than round profile of the action. Based on the length of the magazine, it appears that this rifle is chambered in a magnum caliber such as .338 Lapua Magnum. The rifle is fitted with a suppressor, Harris bipod and has dark earth furniture giving it the appearance of the British Army L115A3 variant of the [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare Magnum]].

[[File:AI L115A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Genuine Accuracy International L115A3 for comparison - .338 Lapua Magnum]]
[[File:SBS3-AW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kohl inspects the rifle. Note the cut-out for the bolt handle which is semi circular. Typically on an AICS this cut-out is square and made from a separate piece of black polymer, suggesting that this stock may actually be from a genuine Accuracy International rifle which has had a different action inserted. ]]
[[File:SBS3-AW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kohl looks through the rifle's scope. Visible in this shot is polygonal shape of the rifles action. Also note that the sight rail bridges over the ejection port as opposed to on Accuracy International rifles where the top of the action is closed.]]
[[File:SBS3-AW-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kohl prepares to fire.]]

==Modified AR-15 Sniper Rifle==
A modified M16 sniper rifle is used by Scott and Sgt. Baxter in episode 6. The rifle is a custom weapon built by armorer Hire Arms on a M16 SP1 upper receiver that has had its carry handle replaced by a picatinny rail. It also features an ACOG scope with killflash filter, a railed handguard, foregrip bipod, Magpul P-Mags and a Magpul PRS stock.

[[Image:AR10-SB2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Armalite AR-10SB Target with Magpul PRS stock & PMag, Leupold Mark 4 scope, and Harris bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO. While the weapon in ''Strike Back'' is chambered for 5.56mm, its configuration is similar to this AR-10.]]
[[File:L_StrikeBkVeng_ep6.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Scott with the AR]]
[[File:SBS3-sniper-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alternate angle.]]
[[File:SBS3-sniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Baxter fires the AR-15.]]
[[File:SBS3-sniper-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The rifle appears to have a Colt lower receiver.]]
[[File:SBS3-Modified AR-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott holds a AR-15.]]
[[File:SBS3-sniper-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott fires the AR at the mercenaries as they evacuate.]]

=Machine Guns=

==Browning M1919A4==
A Somali militiaman fires a truck-mounted [[Browning M1919|M1919A4]] machine gun in episode 1. Kohl is later seen firing two M1919s from a Huey helicopter when Matlock attempts to take the nuclear triggers from Waabri.

[[File:M1919A4.jpg|none|thumb|400px|Browning M1919A4 - .30-06 Springfield]]
[[File:SBS3-M1919-1.jpg|none|thumb|600px|The militiaman opens fire with the M1919.]]
[[File:SBS3-M1919-2.jpg|none|thumb|600px|The militiaman blasts away.]]
[[File:SBS3-M1919-3.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Kohl fires dual M1919s.]]

==RPK==
Somali militiamen use a [[RPK light machine gun]] while covering Waabri when he meets with Matlock. El Soldat's men also use RPKs while attacking Stonebridge and Scott's position in episode 4.

[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK Light Machine Gun with 40 round magazine - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SBS3-RPK-1.jpg|none|thumb|600px|A Somali with a RPK.]]
[[File:SBS3-RPK-2.jpg|none|thumb|600px|A militant fires a RPK in episode 3. A PK-style stock is attached instead of the standard clubfoot stock.]]

==RPD==
El Soldat's men are also seen using [[RPD]] machine guns in episodes 3 and 4.

[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SBS3-RPD-1.jpg|none|thumb|600px|A militant fires a RPD.]]
[[File:SBS3-RPD-2.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Another militant is shot while firing a RPD.]]

==Vektor SS-77==
A [[Vektor SS-77]] can be seen among an assortment of weapons at Knox's weapons decommissioning plant in episode 6.

[[Image:Ss77.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vektor SS-77 - 7.62x51mm General Purpose Machine Gun]]
[[File:SBS3-SS77-1.jpg|none|thumb|600px|A SS-77 is seen as Baxter snaps photos of the plant.]]

=Other=
==M136 AT4==
Dalton uses a [[M136 AT4]] to blast a Somali technical in episode 1. Matlock fires a M136 in episode 8 while attempting to kill an assassin that Stonebridge has detained.

[[Image:AT-4Launcher.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|M136 AT4 Anti-Tank recoilless launcher - 84mm]]
[[File:SBS3-AT4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dalton notices a M136 AT4 in a Somali arsenal.]]
[[File:SBS3-AT4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dalton fires the M136 AT4.]]
[[File:SBS3-AT4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Matlock blasts the police station with a M136 AT4.]]

==RPG-7==

One of El Soldat's men fires a [[RPG-7]] at Stonebridge and Scott as they flee an ambush in episode 4.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[File:SBS3-RPG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|El Soldat watches as one of his men fires a RPG-7.]]

== Milkor "Stopper" 37/38mm Gas Grenade Launcher==

Sgt. Tekere fires tear gas rounds from a [[Milkor Stopper]] gas grenade launcher to hold off angry protesters in episode 8.
[[File:Stopper 38mm grenade launcher (South Africa).jpg|thumb|400px|none|Milkor Stopper - 38mm]]
[[File:SBS3-stopper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moses uses a Stopper launcher to launch a tear gas grenade.]]

==M1A1 Stun Grenades==

An M1A1 stun grenade is taken from a STF officer by Scott in episode 10 and used to cover the escape of Christy Bryant. These grenades are clearly used and inert, as on an unused live M1A1 the holes in the metal body of the grenade are covered with a thin skin, as opposed to on the grenade featured in the show where these holes have been blown through.

[[File:South African M1A1 stun.jpg|thumb|none|200px|South African M1A1 stun grenade]]
[[File:SBS3-Stun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scott snatches a stun grenade from a fallen STF officer.]]
[[File:SBS3-stun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A stun grenade is attached to Stonebridge's vest.]]

==Hand Grenades==

Baxter uses a hand grenade to destroy a mercenary ammo dump in episode 8.

[[File:SBS3-grenade.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Baxter discovers a case of hand grenades.]]

=Also See=

* ''[[Chris Ryan's Strike Back]]''
* ''[[Strike Back: Project Dawn]]''

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Battlefield: Bad Company 2

2014-08-29T11:59:28Z

Sandymon: /* Heckler & Koch HK416 D10RS */

{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Battlefield: Bad Company 2
|picture = BFBC2.jpg
|caption = ''PC Box Cover''
|developer= EA Digital Illusions CE
|series=[[Battlefield]]
|publisher= Electronic Arts
|date= 2010
|platforms= Windows iOS PlayStation 3 Xbox 360
|genre= [[:Category:War|War]] [[First-Person Shooter]] [[:Category:Battlefield|Battlefield]]
}}
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is the sequel to the original "Battlefield: Bad Company". BF:BC2 uses the newest game engine called "Frostbite Engine", and it enables players to destroy any objects in the map (almost 90%) and deform the ground with explosives. The engine also gives bullets travel time and drop over distance, though this is mostly only noticed with sniper rifles. This game released in the U.S on March 2, 2010. A pre-order package comes with instantly unlocked unlockable weapons and vehicle upgrades. Those being the Thompson M1928 Submachine Gun, Colt M1911A1 Pistol, Tracer Dart Pistol, vehicle Armor Upgrade, vehicle Secondary Weapon and vehicle Motion Detector. Some retailers also offer the AKS-74U in addition to these.

*Note: Two major flaws occur in this game: The first being that the majority of the guns available have the ejection port on the left side of the gun, even when the player character is right handed. While this would interfere with a shooter in real life, the developers decided to do this in the game. The second being that the player does not chamber a new round on most guns when both the magazine and gun are empty, and instead simply inserts a new magazine, likely for multiplayer balancing, even though it is physically impossible in real life. The previous game chambered a new round even if the gun was not empty. While not practical, this is somewhat realistic operating procedure.

'''The following guns can be seen in the video game: '''

=Battlefield: Bad Company 2=

==Handguns==

Can be used by any class once unlocked.

===Beretta M9===
The [[Beretta 92FS|Beretta M9]] is a standard semi-automatic pistol. Had a correct 15 round magazine in the Beta, but reverted to the incorrect 12-round mag for the full game. As of the current R7 patch, its damage has been increased to reflect the in-game stat difference between it and the MP-443. One way to explain the 12 round mag and higher damage than the 9mm MP-443 is that it is the .40 caliber version (only the civilian 92FS has a .40 version, but there are bigger mistakes than that). In addition the hammer is never shown cocked, even when fired, as if it were double-action only.
[[Image:M9-pistolet.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta M9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M9.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M9.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:M9BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M9, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===MP-412 REX===
The [[MP-412 REX]] .357 Magnum revolver is the most powerful, but slowest firing and lowest capacity handgun in the game. The reload animation depicts the gun with a no automatic cartridge extractor.
[[Image:Mp-412-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP-412 REX - .357]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MP412.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_MP412.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:MP-412BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MP-412 REX .357 Magnum, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Colt M1911A1===
The [[Colt M1911A1]] is instantly unlocked for players who pre-ordered Battlefield: Bad Company 2. With its .45 calibre round, it has the second highest damage of the pistols, beaten only by the MP412 REX using .357 Magnum rounds. Labeled "WWII M1911 .45" in-game. It is incorrectly portrayed as firing from an uncocked hammer (and it doesn't change at all, even the first round has been fired or the gun's slide has been pulled back while reloading), which is required for single-action pistols like the M1911A1. Unlike most weapons in game, it is correctly modeled with the right side ejection port. This is because its model is from ''[[Battlefield 1943]]'', which features proper right-handed weapons.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:957916_20091029_790screen001.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|American assault trooper with M1911A1]]
[[Image:M1911BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M1911A1 in Multiplayer for Bad Company 2, Port Valdez]]

===MP-443 Grach===
The [[MP-443 Grach]] appears in the game and has a 17-round mag, the highest of all the pistols, as well as the second lowest damage, the M93R being the lowest. In single player, this pistol is the only one available; Marlowe acquires one from Redford at the end of the mission "Upriver", and holds onto it for the rest of the game, while NSA Agent Aguire also carries one of his own.
[[Image:MP433Grach.jpg|thumb|none|350px|MP-443 Grach - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MP443.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:MP-443 Garach.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MP-443 Grach in single player, with scalar weapon in the background.]]
[[Image:MP-443 Garach2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MP-443 Grach in single player, final mission]]

===Beretta 92FS Inox (mocked up as Beretta 93R)===
On the weapon info screen the [[Beretta 93R]] is actually a modified [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS Inox]] (due to the slide mounted safety) with an 20-round magazine, larger trigger guard, extended barrel with compensator, and a folding foregrip. In game however, it is the same model as the M9 but with stainless finish, 3-round burst, and, though not visibly different, a 20 round magazine. In the kill feed it was formerly incorrectly called the M9-3, this was later fixed to call it "M93R Burst".

[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 93R - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M93.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M93R.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:M93BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Fake Beretta 93R, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Tracer Dart Gun===
The Tracer Dart Gun is a non-lethal weapon used by both Russian and American forces. The tracer darts it fires grants lock-on capabilities to allied Engineers using the RPG-7 or Carl Gustav launchers. Unlocked by default on all pre-ordered copies, but can be acquired through experience for those who did not pre-order. Unlike in the original Bad Company, the Engineer has to lock on the target by looking through the scope of the rocket launcher for a few seconds at the tracer point. After it locks on, a distance will be given. The Engineer is then free to fire in any direction, and the rocket will home in on the target. It is also capable of tracking and locking on while embedded on enemy personnel instead of vehicles.
[[Image:BC2 Tracer Dark Gun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|American engineer with Tracer Dart Gun]]
[[Image:Tracer Gun.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Tracer Dart Gun in Multiplayer]]
[[Image:Tracer Dart Lock.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Lock on as seen through the scope of a Carl Gustav. It's hard to see but there are some white numbers beneath the orange square. This is the distance and notifies the player that the missile is locked.]]

===Nambu Type 14===
In level 1 (Operation Aurora) Watanabe is seen using a Nambu Type 14, like the other WWII weapons, ported from ''[[Battlefield 1943]]''.

==Submachine Guns==

===IMI Uzi===
The [[Uzi]] appears in the game and is equipped with a suppressor. It has a very high rate of fire, more akin to that of the [[Uzi#Mini Uzi|Mini-Uzi]].
[[Image:UZIwSionics.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-UZI.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Uzi BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Uzi as seen in multiplayer]]

===M1928 Thompson===
The [[M1928 Thompson]] appears in the game and can be set to any class' primary slot once unlocked and is instantly unlocked for players who pre-ordered Battlefield: Bad Company 2. It is incorrectly identified as "WWII M1A1 Thompson" in-game when in-fact it is the M1928 model. The gun uses the same model from [[Battlefield 1943]]

It should be noted that when the player character reloads the weapon, he inserts the magazine incorrectly. Instead of using the channels on the mag catch for the magazine to slide into, he inserts it in a similar way to an AK-47 magazine, even though it isn't possible to insert a Thompson magazine without using the channels.

[[File:M1928A1 Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round magazine - .45 ACP ]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M1A1T.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:957916 20091029 790screen002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|American assault trooper with the M1928A1 Thompson]]
[[Image:ThompsonBC2M.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M1928 Thompson, Battlefield Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Port Valdez]]

===PP-2000===
The older version of the [[PP-2000]] appears in the game equipped with a suppressor and is incorrectly referred as the "PP-2000 Avtomat" ("Avtomat" is the Russian term for Assault rifle or Submachine gun, but nowadays it is more used for Assault rifles or Automatic rifles). Magazine holds 40 rounds despite being modeled with the 20-round magazine. It fires at 1000 rpm, faster than any other weapon in-game except the MG3.
[[Image:Pp-2000.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PP-2000 with ATN Ultra Sight DC red dot sight - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-PP2000.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:PP-2000.JPG|thumb|none|700px|PP-2000, Multiplayer]]

===Heckler & Koch UMP45===
The [[Heckler & Koch UMP]]45 appears in the game equipped with a suppressor and a Picatinny rail below the handguard.
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BFBC2-UMP.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:UMPBC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|UMP .45, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Isla Innocents. You can see that the selector switch is set to full auto.]]

=== Type 100 ===
The [[Type 100 submachine gun]] is found in the first level of single-player, Operation Aurora, ported from Battlefield 1943.
[[Image:Submachine gun Type 100.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Type 100 - 8x22mm Nambu.]]
[[Image:Typ 100.JPG|thumb|none|700px|The Type 100 in single-player.]]

==Assault Rifles==
Automatic Rifles are split between Carbines for the Engineer Class, and Assault Rifles for the Assault Class. All the assault rifles are equipped with an under-slung grenade launcher, capable of firing standard grenades, or either smoke or canister flechette rounds.

===9A-91===
The [[9A-91]] is the starting carbine for Engineers. Fires the 9x39mm round, has a 20 round magazine and is equipped with a suppressor.
[[Image:9a91.jpg|thumb|none|400px|9A-91 - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-9A91.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2 9A91.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:9A91BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|9A-91, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact===
The [[Heckler & Koch XM8|H&K XM8 Compact]] equipped with a suppressor is a available weapon for the Engineer Class. Has the highest rate of fire of all the rifle-caliber carbines available to the Engineer.
[[Image:xm8ccbutt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|H&K XM8 Compact Carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-XM8C.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:XM8COMPACTBC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM8 Compact, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Arica Harbor]]

===AKS-74U===
The [[AKS-74U]] is instantly unlocked for players who pre-ordered Battlefield: Bad Company 2. Equipped with a suppressor. Referred to as the "AKS-74U Krinkov" in-game. Oddly, in the weapons info screen it has black plastic furniture, but in-game it has wood furniture. This is because the version in Bad Company 2 is simply a reskin of the original [[Battlefield: Bad Company | Bad Company]]'s AKS-74U, in which it had the plastic furniture.
[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AKS74U.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AKS74UBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AKS-74U as seen in Multiplayer for Bad Company 2, Port Valdez]]
[[Image:AKS74UBC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AKS-74U in the final mission of the single player for Bad Company 2. It seems that this scene was inspired by a similar scene in the movie ''[[Shoot 'em Up]]''.]]

===FN SCAR-L CQC===
An early version of the [[FN SCAR|SCAR-L]] assault rifle is the first unlockable weapon for the Engineer in multiplayer. Equipped with a suppressor. When firing bursts of automatic fire, the weapon ejects casings at a faster rate than it fires and cycles. This is probably due to it reusing scripts from [[Battlefield: Bad Company]], in which it had a faster ROF.
[[Image:Scar l-1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|First Gen FN SCAR-L - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SCARL.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:SCARLBC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|SCAR-L, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

===AEK-971===
Called "AEK-971 Vintovka" in the weapons screen, the [[AEK-971]] is the Assault's starting Assault rifle. Used as the main weapon of the South American militia in Single Player. Equipped with the GP-30 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher.
[[Image:AEK-971 left side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AEK-971 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC-AEK971.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_AEK971.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:AEK91BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AEK-971, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]
[[Image:AEK971BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AEK-971 w/ 4x scope and GP-30, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Heckler & Koch XM8===
The [[Heckler & Koch XM8]] is an unlockable Assault Rifle. It is used with the XM320 Underbarrel Grenade Launcher. In Campaign mode, it replaces the M416 as the signature weapon of B-Company. Redford and Marlowe use ACOGs, while Haggard uses a Red Dot Sight, though Redford and Haggard's optics are always present in gameplay, they only sometimes appear in cutscenes, while Marlowe's is always there (except in the tanker cutscene).

[[Image:XM8.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-XM8.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_XM8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:XM8 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM8 in Bad Company 2 Multiplayer with 4x scope]]
[[Image:XM8BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM8, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

===Heckler & Koch HK416 D10RS===
Referred as the M416. Apparently in the Bad Company universe, the [[Heckler & Koch HK416]] weapon has been adopted by the US Army, thus the ''M416'' designation. A well-balanced and versatile rifle, the HK416 is popular in multiplayer and can be outfitted with standard assault rifle attachments, such as a red dot sight, 4x scope and underslung M203, capable of firing flechette, HE or smoke rounds.

[[File:HK 416 D.jpg|thumb|none|350px|HK416 D10RS - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-HK416.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:M416.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Heckler & Koch HK416 + M203 in Multiplayer w/ 4x scope]]

===Colt M4A1===
The [[Colt M4A1|M4A1 Carbine]] is seen being held by the soldier on the box art, but is not in the game.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2.jpg|thumb|250px|none]]

===AN-94===
The [[AN-94]] ingame is permanently set to the two-round burst mode, but incorrectly fires at the full-auto mode's 600 RPM instead of the burst mode's much higher fire rate. Equipped with the GP-30 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher. Used by the majority of Russian soldiers in single-player.
[[Image:an94-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nikonov AN-94 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AN94.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AN94BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AN-94 with Red Dot sight and GP-30, Bad Company 2, Arica Harbor]]

===Colt M16A4===
The [[M16 rifle series#M16A4 Rifle|M16A4 rifle]] is an unlockable assault rifle and correctly fires in 3-round bursts. Note that it's erroneously referred to as the "[[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2]]" in the game. It can be fitted with an ACOG scope, red dot sight, and M203 grenade launcher as described below. The "M16" (which ''was'' a M16A2) has been replaced in ''Battlefield: Bad Company 2'' by the "M16A2". The "M16A2" differs from the original M16 that was used in the first ''Bad Company'' in multiple ways: a 30 round magazine size instead of the 50 round size, a three round burst instead of being fully automatic, multiple Weapon Attachments (as is the case with most weapons in Bad Company 2). It requires 47000 Points to unlock, and is the last unlock in the "Assault" kit

[[Image:M16A4M203.jpg|thumb|none|501px|M16A4 (5.56x45mm) with M203 40mm grenade launcher]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M16.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"M16A2" with M203 Grenade Launcher.]]
[[Image:M16BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|"M16A2" with M203 Grenade Launcher and 4x scope, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Arica Harbor. Even though the ejection port is on the left side of the gun, the forward assist is still on the right side. Note that the front sight is missing as well.]]

===Steyr AUG A3===
Called the "STG.77 AUG" in-game, its official designation in the Austrian Army.
[[Image:Steyr_AUG_A3+40mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Steyr AUG A3 (5.56x45mm) with M203 40mm grenade launcher]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AUGBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AUG A3 + M203 with Red Dot sight, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]
[[Image:F200BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AUG A3 with M203 grenade launcher and 4x scope, Arica Harbor.]]

===FN F2000 Tactical===
The [[FN F2000 Tactical]] is an unlockable assault rifle, called the "F2000 Assault" in the game. Description shows it is equipped with the[[FN EGLM|FN GL-1]] 4. It fires at a comparatively high 850 rpm compared to other assault rifles, but its report makes it sound as if it fires faster.
[[Image:FN_F2000_tactical.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN F2000 Tactical with CAA FVG5 foregrip - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-F2000.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Note that the info screen depicts a civilian [[FN F2000#FN FS2000 |FS2000]] with a FN GL-1 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:BC2_F2000.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FN F2000 Tactical with M203 Grenade Launcher]]
[[Image:F2000BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|F2000 Tactical with GL-1 and Red Dot sight, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer. The sight for the GL is on the right hand side of the gun, rather than on the left hand side or top]]

==Battle Rifles==
Can be used by any class once unlocked.

===M1 Garand===
The [[M1 Garand]] can be unlocked by registering as a Battlefield "veteran" (i.e. registering at least one other Battlefield-series game). Called "WWII M1 Garand" in-game. Oddly, the picture of it in the weapons info screen is the Type 5 rifle. Can be set to any class' primary slot. Another weapon carried over from ''1943'', and hence has correct right-hand ejection and charging handle.
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand semiautomatic rifle - .30-06]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M1G.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Garand Multiplayer BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Garand, Multiplayer Bad Company 2, Valparaiso]]
[[Image:GarandBC2v2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Garand, Multiplayer Bad Company 2, Nelson Bay Conquest. This one is not in the shadows, giving it more detail.]]

===Heckler & Koch G3A3===
Simply called "G3" in-game, the [[Heckler & Koch G3|G3A3]] has a 20-round magazine and full-auto fire capability. Can be set to any class' primary slot. Also, despite claiming to be unlocked at Rank 26, players really unlock it at Rank 22, the first officer rank. One of the very few weapons other then sniper rifles and belt-fed machine guns to have correct right-hand modeling.
[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-G3.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:G3.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 in game multiplayer]]

===MK 14 Mod 0 EBR===
The [[M14#Mk_14_Mod_0_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR]] (Enhanced Battle Rifle) is an unlockable weapon in multiplayer. It is incorrectly called "M14 Mod 0 Enhanced" in the game and has a desert-tan camo paint. Has semi-auto only firing option and can be set to any class' primary slot, has a 10 round capacity despite what it says in the description. Has a right-hand bolt, but ejects to the left. The related original [[M14]] appears in the Vietnam expansion pack.
[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR - 7.62x51 NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MK14.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:BC2_M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 EBR, 7.62 x 51 mm NATO]]
[[Image:M14EBRBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M14 EBR 7.62 x 51 mm NATO, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

=== Type 5 Garand Copy ===
The [[M1 Garand#Type 5|Type 5]] is the standard weapon for the Japanese forces in the single-player mode. Note that the Japanese only produced this weapon in 1945 and very few were made; none however, saw any service. It uses the same model as the Type 5 from Battlefield 1943, and functions in an identical fashion to the M1 Garand. Unusually, the game allows the weapon to be reloaded partway through an en-bloc clip by using the clip latch. As with the Garand in ''[[Turning Point: Fall of Liberty]]'' there is no model for an empty or partially fired clip, so regardless of how many rounds have been fired the Type 5 is always shown ejecting a completely full clip at the start of the reload animation, in contrast to the Garand's clip, which is always shown as empty.

[[Image:Type5.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Type 5 - 7.7x58mm]]
[[Image:Japanese Garand.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Type 5 Garand copy in single-player. Note the Imperial chrysanthemum symbol stamped on the receiver, behind the sight.]]

==Sniper Rifles==
Sniper rifles are exclusive to the recon class.

===Norinco QBU-88===
The [[Norinco QB rifle series#Norinco QBU-88|Norinco QBU-88]] is called the "Type 88 Sniper" in-game.
[[Image:Qbu-88-0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco QBU-88 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-QBU88.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2 QBU-88.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T88BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|QBU-88, Single Player Bad Company 2, 3rd level]]

===SV-98===
The [[SV-98]] is called the "SV-98 Snaiperskaya" in the game. It has a green finish, with the bipod folded in.
[[Image:SV98.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SV-98 - 7.62x54R/7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SV98.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_GOL.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:SV98BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px| SV-98, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso Rush]]

===VSS Vintorez===
The [[VSS Vintorez]], In-game identified as the "VSS Snaiperskaya Special" (rather redundant, as VSS stands for "Vintovka Snaiperskaya Spetsialnaya" or Special Sniper Rifle. Essentially, the game identifies it as a Special Sniper Rifle Sniper Special.) Modeled with 10-round magazine, but carries 20. Fires full auto only, while the real VSS is select-fire.
[[Image:Vss1.jpg|thumb|none|401px|VSS Vintorez - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-VSS.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]

===M24A2 Sniper Rifle===
The A2 variant of the [[Remington Model 700#M24 Sniper Rifle|M24 sniper rifle]] is the standard bolt-action sniper rifle used by Recon class, referred to as the "M24 Sniper".
[[Image:M24.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M24A2 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M24.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M24.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:M24BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M24, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Barrett M95===
The [[Barrett M95]] is called the "M95 Sniper" in the game.
[[Image:barrett_m90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Barrett M95 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M95.jpg|thumb|none|700px|In fact, it is an anti-materi'''a'''l rifle]]
[[Image:Barret 95.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Barret M95, .50BMG Multiplayer Bad Company 2, Valparaiso]]

===GOL sniper rifle===
The [[GOL sniper rifle]] is called the "GOL Sniper Magnum" in the game.
[[Image:GOL Sniper Magnum.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GOL-Sniper - .338 Lapua]]
[[Image:BFBC2-GOL.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:GOLBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|GOL, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Isla Innocents]]

===SVU Dragunov===
The [[SVU Dragunov]] is called the "SVU Snaiperskaya Short" in the game. Equipped with a suppressor and PSO-1 scope.
[[Image:Svu.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SVU - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SVU.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:SVUBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|SVU, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa Rush]]

==Machine Guns==

Available to the Medic class.

===M249 SAW Paratrooper===
The [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW Paratrooper]] is called the "M249 SAW" in the game. Has a 200 round belt. As in the previous game, it has an M249-E2 heat shield.
[[Image:M249ParaModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M249 Paratrooper - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M249.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:M249ParaBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M249 Para, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Port Valdez]]

===PKM===
The [[PKM]] is called the "PKM LMG" in the game. This is the starting weapon for medics in multiplayer. Has a 100 round belt.
[[Image:HungarianPKM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKM - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BFBC2-PKM.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_PKM.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:PKM.JPG|thumb|700px|none|PKM, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Atacama Desert Rush]]

===Heckler & Koch MG36===
The [[Heckler & Koch MG36]] is called the "MG36" in the game. Has a 100 round Beta-C Mag. It's aimed using the Export version's 1.5x reflex sight, usable even without the Red Dot specialization. Using the 4x Scope spec. with this give the default optic some zoom. Before a patch that was released a few months after the game's release this weapon was basically unusable in Hardcore mode, as the sight's aiming dot was bugged (did not show up) in that mode. Apparently, it was accidentally considered a HUD item that shouldn't be displayed (Hardcore features a minimalistic HUD) in that mode.
[[Image:MG36.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heckler & Koch MG36 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MG36.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:MG36 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MG36 Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Heckler & Koch XM8 Automatic Rifle ===
The [[Heckler & Koch XM8#Heckler & Koch XM8 Automatic Rifle|H&K XM8 Automatic Rifle ]] is called the "XM8 LMG" in the game. Has the same magazine as the MG36. The in-game description incorrectly states it comes with a built-in scope, when in fact it will only have a scope if one is equipped by the player as an attachment.
[[Image:XM8 LMG.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch XM8 LMG - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-XM8MG.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:XM8LMGBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px| XM8 LMG with 4x scope, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa Rush]]
[[Image:XM8MGBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px| XM8 LMG, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso Rush]]

===QJY-88===
The [[QJY-88]] is called the "Type-88 LMG" in the game. Has a 200 round belt.
[[Image:type88gpmg2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|QJY 88 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-QJY88.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Type88BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|QJY88 w/ Red Dot sight as seen in Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Nelson Bay]]

===M60===
The [[M60]] is called the "M60 LMG" in the game. Has a 100 round belt. Functions as Sweetwater's new signature gun in campaign mode, replacing his original M249.
[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M60.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Note that M60 is a medium machine gun, not light machine gun (LMG)]]
[[Image:BC2_M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Terrence Sweetwater wielding his M60, alongside Preston Marlowe and his XM8.]]
[[Image:M60 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M60 with red dot sight in multiplayer, Bad Company 2]]

===MG3===
The modernized MG42 rebranded the [[MG3]]. Has a 150 round belt and the highest rate of fire of any of the LMGs.
[[Image:MG 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MG3.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_MG3.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:MG3 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MG3, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer with Red Dot sight.]]
[[Image:MG3BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MG3, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

==Shotguns==

Can be used by any class once unlocked. Can be equipped with extended magazines or loaded with slugs once either are unlocked.

===Remington 870 MCS===
Called "870 Combat" in the game. The [[Remington 870|Remington 870 MCS]] has a four round tube as standard, eight rounds with extended mags. It is always modeled withe the longer magazine tube. First unlocked shotgun.
[[Image:Remington_870MCS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870MCS - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M870.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:REMINGTON870BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Remington 870, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Nelson Bay]]

===Franchi SPAS-12===
Called the "SPAS-12 Combat" in the game. The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] has the same magazine tube sizes as the 870 MCS, and operates only in pump-action mode. Judging by its barrel length, it is the compact variant.
[[Image:Franchi12.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 Compact variant - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Spas 12 Multiplayer.JPG|thumb|none|700px|SPAS-12 Multiplayer, Port Valdez]]

===NeoStead 2000===
Called the "Neostead 2000 Combat" in the game. The [[NeoStead 2000]] has a four shot mag tube as standard, increased to eight with extended mags.
[[Image:Neostead.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Neostead Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-NS2000.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_NS2000.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neostead Shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:NEOSTEAD2000.JPG|thumb|none|700px|NeoStead Shotgun 12 Gauge, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===Izhmash Saiga-20===
Called "Saiga 20K Semi" in the game. The [[Izhmash Saiga series shotgun#Saiga 20|Saiga-20K]] has a six shot magazine as standard, increased to twelve with extended mags.
[[Image:Saiga20k.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Saiga 20K - 20 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-S20.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Saiga12KBC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Saiga 20K 20g, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===USAS-12===
Called the "USAS-12 Automatic" in the game. The [[USAS-12]] has same mag capacities as the Saiga-20K.
[[Image:USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|USAS-12 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|USAS 12 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BC2USAS12SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|USAS-12, final mission single player. This is what happens when you unload several 12 round 12 gauge magazines in rapid succession inside an airplane]]

===TOZ-194===
The [[TOZ-194]] is available in the PS3 and PC beta, but only usable in Single Player in the full game. Has a 8-round mag capacity, a slug version can also be found in single-player, although the slugs seem to ''explode'' on impact, making it quite useful as an accurate "power weapon".
[[Image:Toz194.jpg|thumb|none|401px|TOZ-194 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:TOZ.JPG|thumb|none|700px|TOZ-194, 12 Gauge Singleplayer 2nd level]]
[[Image:TOZBC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|TOZ-194, 12 Gauge Singleplayer 3rd level]]

==Launchers==

===M203 Grenade Launcher===

The [[M203 grenade launcher]] appears in the game mounted on the HK416, M16A4, and AUG A3.

[[Image:M16A4M203.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M203 40mm grenade launcher mounted on an M16A4 (5.56x45mm)]]
[[Image:BC2_M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M203 grenade launcher mounted on an M16A4 in ''Battlefield: Bad Company 2''. Note that the M16A4's ejection port & brass deflector are modeled on the wrong side of the weapon]]
===FN GL-1===
The GL-1 is mounted on the FN F2000 Tactical.

===GP-30===
The [[GP-30]] grenade launcher is mounted on the AEK-971 and the AN-94.
[[Image:Gp-30 ak-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GP-30 40mm grenade launcher mounted on an [[AK-74]] (5.45x39mm)]]
[[Image:BC2_AEK971.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AEK-971 with GP-30 in game.]]

===Heckler & Koch XM320===
The [[Heckler & Koch M320|XM320]] grenade launcher is mounted on the XM8.

[[Image:XM320.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM320 - 40x46mm. Note lack of a front grip, added only to the production M320. The version in-game uses an earlier version of the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:BC_XM8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier aims an XM8 fitted with an XM320. Note the lack of a folding front grip.]]
[[Image:AG36BC2Reloading.JPG|thumb|none|600px|XM320 Reloading, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

===RPG-7===
The [[RPG-7]] is the standard Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher used by Russian Engineer class. It is an unguided direct-fire weapon, but it can somehow also be used as a guided rocket launcher using Tracer Dart Gun. It is fitted with a PGO-7 scope.
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2 RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:RPG7BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|RPG-7, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Arica Harbor]]

===Pansarskott m/86===
The Swedish Army version of the [[M136 AT4]], the Pansarskott m/86, appears in-game. It has a (incorrect) built in tracking system, and is thereby not compatible with the Tracer Dart Gun. The reload animation is the player throwing away the launcher and grabbing a new one from his back. This means that the Engineer can carry up to 8 AT4's on their back if the extra explosives perk is chosen.
[[Image:Pskott86.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|The Pansarskott m/86. ]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AT4.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The m/86 in ''BF:BC2''.]]
[[Image:AT4 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AT4 in multiplayer. Note the grip, distinguishing it from the "M136' variant.]]
[[Image:AT4 sight.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AT4 sight. The sight is a laser targeting system, with the orange square being where the rocket will impact. If the launcher is discarded before the missile impacts, the missile will still turn to follow the laser point, most likely making it hit the ground.]]

===Carl Gustav M3===
The [[Carl Gustav recoilless rifle#Carl Gustav M3|Carl Gustav M3]] is the Anti-Tank recoilless rifle used by the engineer class. Like the RPG-7, it can be used as a guided rocket launcher using Tracer Dart Gun. It is erroneously referred as the M2 model, which is distinguished from the M3 model by its lack of a carrying handle.

[[Image:CarlGustavM3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Carl Gustav M3 - 84mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M2CG.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:CarlGustavBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Carl Gustav, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer]]

==Emplaced Weapons==

===XM312===
The [[XM307 & XM312#XM312|XM312]] is mounted on Humvees, CAVs, and stationary turrets.
[[Image:XM312hmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|XM312 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:Mounted Weapons.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM307 and XM312 mounted on a CAV in single player. The 307 is controlled by the player (who is also the driver) while a squadmate controls the 312.]]
[[Image:XM312BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM312 mounted on a Humvee, First Person View. Note lack of bullets feeding into the gun]]
[[Image:XM312BC2V2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM312 mounted on a Humvee, Side View]]
[[Image:XM312Shield.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM312 mounted on a Shield, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Nelson Bay. The shield is impervious to everything except explosives. Even a .50 Cal sniper round is unable to get through the viewing port.]]

===Kord heavy machine gun===
The [[Kord heavy machine gun|Kord]] is mounted on stationary turrets and Vodniks.
[[Image:Kord 02.jpg|thumb|none|401px|Kord heavy machine gun with ammo box - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:BC2_KORD.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kord heavy machine gun 12.7x108mm with ammo drum]]
[[Image:KordBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Kord Heavy machine gun, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Isla Innocents]]

===Browning M1919===
The [[Browning M1919]] only (and incorrectly) appears in the first level as a mounted machine gun used by the Japanese.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A variant of the Browning M1919 developed during World War 2, this model is designated the M37, with the ability to feed from either the left or the right of the weapon - 30-06. This example is shown without a tripod, only the pintle mount. This is the MOST likely .30 cal machine gun to be seen firing from armored vehicles.]]
[[Image:Browning 1919.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Browning M1919 .30 Cal Left side]]
[[Image:Browning 1919 2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Browning M1919 .30 Cal Right side]]

=== Browning M2 ===
The [[Browning M2]] is mounted on top of the American M1A2 tank
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:Tank BFBC2.png|thumb|none|700px]]

===FN M240C===
The [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240C]] is coaxial mounted on the M1A2 Abrams MBT.
[[Image:M240C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M240C vehicle coaxial-mount version - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

===PKT===
The [[PK Machine Gun|PKT]] is coaxial mounted on the T-90 MBT.
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun with 250-round ammo drum - 7.62x54mm R]]

===M134 Minigun===
The [[M134 Minigun]] is mounted on UH-60 Black Hawks.
[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm]]

===XM307===
The [[XM307 & XM312#XM307 ACSW|XM307]] is found mounted on the CAV and a pair are mounted on the Patrol Boat. In an update on the 8th of June the standalone XM307 has been added to the multiplayer stats section, and has been added in game in Map Pack 4. In the stats section it is incorrectly named an XM306, but in the in game killfeed it says XM307 like it should.
[[Image:Xm30750cal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|XM307 ACSW - 25x59mm HEAB]]
[[Image:BC2_XM312.jpg|thumb|none|600px|XM307]]
[[Image:Mounted Weapons.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM307 and XM312 mounted on a CAV in single player. The 307 is controlled by the player (who is also the driver) while a squadmate controls the 312.]]

=== Norinco QLZ-87===
The emplaced version of the [[QLZ-87]] was originally found only in the single player game. In an update on the 8th of June, it was added to the multiplayer stats section, and was added to multiplayer proper with the Onslaught DLC, where it appeared on the Atacama Desert and Isla Inocentes maps.
[[Image:QLZ87Heavy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|QLZ-87 - 35mm]]
[[Image:MGL BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px]]

===BGM-71 TOW===
Mounted on stationary turrets and some Humvees.
[[Image:Tow 07.jpg|thumb|none|400px|BGM-71 TOW mounted on M220 tripod 152mm]]

===AT-14 Spriggan===
The [[AT-14 Spriggan]] (Russian designation 9M133 ''Kornet'') is mounted on stationary turrets.

[[Image:AT14-Spriggan.JPG‎|thumb|none|400px|AT-14 Spriggan launcher and missile - 152mm]]

===ZU-23-2===
Mounted alone and sometimes on the BMD-3
[[Image:ZU-23.jpg|thumb|none|400px|ZU-23-2 - 23x152mm]]

===M167 VADS===
Mounted alone and on an M113 chassis. In an update on the 8th of June it has been added to the multiplayer stats section, and has been added in large numbers to the Map Pack 4 maps, Atacama Desert Rush and Port Valdez Conquest. The only sign of the M113 mounted version is in the game files and in the picture for the vehicle perks shortcut upgrade in the game store.

[[Image:M167BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M167, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Atacama Desert Rush]]

=Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam (Expansion Pack)=
'''''Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam''''' is an expansion pack for the original game that takes place during the Vietnam War. It was released in December 2010 as a multiplayer-only DLC and requires BF: BC2 to work.

==Handguns==
===Colt M1911A1===
The [[M1911A1]] makes a return in the expansion. Performs exactly as in the original game.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M911A1.]]

===TT-33===
The [[Tokarev TT-33 Pistol]] is the second available sidearm in the expansion. In incorrectly holds 12 rounds and has the same stats as the Beretta M9 in the base game.
[[Image:TT-33-Wartime.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev. Pre-1947 version.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-TT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the TT-33.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-TT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player's character holds a TT-33 pistol.]]

==Submachine Guns==
===PPSh-41===
The [[PPSh-41]] is available to the Engineer class. Called "PPSh" in the game. Despite being modeled with a 71-round drum magazine, the in-game weapon has a capacity of 25 rounds and also has a very slow rate of fire. This was done to balance out game statistics.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377631photo_1292995572battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41]]
[[Image:BC2V-PPSH.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41 in idle.]]
[[Image:Asdadsadsasdasdasda.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the submachine gun.]]

===Ingram MAC-10===
The [[MAC-10]] appears as "M10" in the game and has a unrealistic 40-round magazine capacity.
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|none|300px|MAC-10 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377661photo_1292995623battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MAC-10]]
[[Image:BC2V-MAC10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MAC-10 in idle.]]
[[Image:Mac10123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the MAC-10. The symbol of the peace is scratched into the back of the gun. Sights are incorrectly placed, and shot placement would be above your intended target in reality.]]

===IMI Uzi===
The [[Uzi]] makes a return in the expansion. This time it appears without a suppressor.
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377651photo_1292995608battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Uzi]]
[[Image:BC2V-UZI.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holding the Uzi.]]
[[Image:Uzi123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the Uzi.]]

==Assault Rifles / Battle Rifles==
===Colt Model 715===
The [[Colt Model 715]] is issued to the Assault Kit. It can be identified by the brass defector an newer forward bolt assist. It has been modeled with a three prong flash hider and a triangular handguard. A similar concept and design can be seen in the film [[Operation Dumbo Drop]]. Called M16A1 in game. Has the highest rate of fire but the slowest reload among the assault rifles. Has a 30-round capacity despite being modeled with a Vietnam-era 20-round magazine.
[[Image:Colt715 C7Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 715 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377591photo_1292995457battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt 715]]
[[Image:BC2V-M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holding the 715 in BC2: Vietnam.]]
[[Image:M16_reloading.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the 715 in the game.]]
[[Image:M16_sighth.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the Colt 715 rifle.]]

===AK-47===
The [[AK-47]] appears in the expansion as an other usable assault rifle. It is very popular in the game due to its high damage and moderate accuracy.
[[Image:TypeIII_AK47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Izhmash AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377601photo_1292995478battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-47. Note that the cloth wrapped around the receiver would cause issues with the charging-handle's reciprocation.]]
[[Image:BC2V-AK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AK-47 in idle.]]
[[Image:Reloadingvietnam.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the AK-47 in the game. Actually it is more like a hybrid, as it has a stamped receiver but lacks the slant muzzle brake.]]

===M14===
Dubbed an assault rifle in-game, the [[M14]] is fully automatic in the expansion, it has the highest damage but the slow rate of fire and a 20-round magazine. Referred to as "M14 Assault".
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377611photo_1292995507battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M14]]
[[Image:BC2V-M14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M14 in the player's hands.]]
[[Image:M14123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M14 - Iron sights.]]

==Sniper Rifles==
===Norinco NDM-86===
The [[SVD Dragunov#Norinco NDM-86|Norinco NDM-86]] is used by the Recon class. Holds 10 rounds and has a stronger default scope than any other sniper rifle in the game. It is incorrectly identified as a SVD in-game when in-fact it is a Norinco NDM-86, a .308 version made in China, using straight magazines. This particular model would be anachronistic.
[[Image:Ndm86.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco NDM-86 - .308 Winchester/7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BBC2V-NDM86-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the "SVD".]]
[[Image:BBC2V-NDM86-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|First person view of an NDM-86 rifle.]]

===M40 Sniper Rifle===
The [[Remington Model 700#M40 Sniper Rifle|M40 Sniper Rifle]] is the most powerful non-explosive weapon in the game capable of killing anyone in one shot to the head or chest. Its only drawback is the 5-round capacity and slow (bolt-action) rate of fire. The rifle is incorrectly portrayed with a 5-round detachable box magazine instead of the internal magazine. The [[M40A5]] (introduced in 2009) is the variant that has a removable magazine.
[[Image:M40a1standard-1-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M40A1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M40-1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The M40's stats.]]
[[Image:BC2V-M40.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The player's character wields an M40A1 in the game.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M40-2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The player's character reloads the M40A1.]]

===M21===
The [[M21]] sniper rifle is modeled with a 20-round magazine but holds only 10 bullets. It is identical to the SVD Dragunov in stats.
[[Image:Xm21rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M21 Sniper Rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M21-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M21 rifle.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M21-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Using the M21 sniper rifle.]]

==Shotgun==
===Remington 870===
The [[Remington 870 Shotgun]] appears as "870 Combat" an is the only usable shotgun in the expansion. It has wooden furniture and no accessory rails, and does even higher damage at close range than in the base game.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BBC2V-870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the Remington 870.]]
[[Image:BC2V-870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Remington 870 in the player's hands.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player's character wields a 870.]]

==Machine Guns==
===Stoner 63===
The [[Stoner 63]] is called the "XM22" in the game, and feeds from a 200-round belt box. Note that the belt feeds into the left side of the weapon instead of the right, and that the reload animation is entirely incorrect (it is the same as BC2's M249 SAW's, while the XM22 has no charging handle on the right side).
[[Image:StonerM63.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Stoner 63 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377681photo_1292995682battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stoner 63]]
[[Image:Asdadsasdasdasdasdas.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Stoner 63 in first person.]]

===RPK===
The [[RPK]] appears with an incorrect 100-round drum mag (should hold 75 rounds) in the expansion. Has the fastest reload time among the light machine guns. Due to this being nothing more than a model replacement for the base game's PKM, spent brass is seen ejecting to the left side, right through the receiver cover instead of through the ejection port.
[[Image:Rpk_01_drum.jpg|thumb|none|501px|RPK - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377691photo_1292995705battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPK]]
[[Image:Pkm123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shooting the RPK.]]
[[Image:Pkmreloading.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading animation of the RPK.]]

===M60===
The [[M60]] is available to the medic class, and differs only cosmetically from the version found in the base game.
[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun with bipod folded - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377701photo_1292995724battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M60]]
[[Image:M60123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shooting the M60 machine gun.]]

===M60D===
Two [[M60D]] machine guns are mounted on every UH-1 "Huey" helicopter. It appears to be modeled with the lower handguard of the normal M60.
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60D - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HueyM60DMount.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M60D Machine Gun on the M23 Armament Subsystem]]

===Browning M1919===
The [[Browning M1919]] is seen mounted on American M15A jeeps & River Patrol Boats.
[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 on M2 tripod - .30-06]]
[[Image:Twin30Cal.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Twin mount Browning M1919 similar to the ones on River Patrol Boats.]]
[[Image:PBRMainSeat.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twin Browning M1919 in-game as seen from the gunner seat on a River Patrol Boat.]]
[[Image:PBRSecondSeat.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Single Browning M1919 gunner seat on a River Patrol Boat.]]

===MG34===
The [[MG34]] is mounted on NVA T54 tanks and GAZ69 trucks.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 with front and rear sights folded down - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

===Browning M2===
The [[Browning M2]] appears to be the mounted HMG on the M48 Patton Tank.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:M2BrowningM48Patton.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Browning M2 mounted on M48 Patton.]]
[[Image:M48Pattonm2Browning.jpg|thumb|none|550px|An close up view of the commander's cupola and the M2 Browning on a real M48 Patton.]]
[[Image:USMBTM48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A picture of the in-game M48 Patton where we can clearly see the mounted the M2 Browning.]]

==Launchers==
===M79===
The [[M79 grenade launcher]] is issued as a gadget to the Assault kit. It is the equivalent of the 40mm Grenade Launchers from the base game. It can be decked out in a tiger-stripe paint scheme as seen in ''[[Apocalypse Now]]''.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40mm]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M79.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:BC2V-M79.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M79 has a spiraling tiger stripe pattern on it, featured in the original ''[[Battlefield: Vietnam]]'', and an obvious homage to ''Apocalypse Now''.]]

===RPG-7===
In Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam, the [[RPG-7]] is issued to the Engineer kit. It features its standard iron sights but is otherwise similar to the RPG-7 from the base game.
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:BC2V-RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holding the RPG-7 in the game.]]

==Miscellaneous==
===M2 Flamethrower===
The [[M2 Flamethrower]] is a powerful weapon issued to all kits. It has a limited amount of fuel (300 "rounds"), but this allows a continuous spray of fire until it runs out. It doesn't have a reload animation. Any spare gas will be instantly loaded if the reload button is pressed.
[[Image:M2_Flamethrower.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M2 Flamethrower]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M2 flamethrower.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player's character holds the M2.]]
[[Image:BC2V-Flamethrower.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Firing the M2 Flamethrower.]]
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Battlefield: Bad Company 2

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{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Battlefield: Bad Company 2
|picture = BFBC2.jpg
|caption = ''PC Box Cover''
|developer= EA Digital Illusions CE
|series=[[Battlefield]]
|publisher= Electronic Arts
|date= 2010
|platforms= Windows iOS PlayStation 3 Xbox 360
|genre= [[:Category:War|War]] [[First-Person Shooter]] [[:Category:Battlefield|Battlefield]]
}}
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is the sequel to the original "Battlefield: Bad Company". BF:BC2 uses the newest game engine called "Frostbite Engine", and it enables players to destroy any objects in the map (almost 90%) and deform the ground with explosives. The engine also gives bullets travel time and drop over distance, though this is mostly only noticed with sniper rifles. This game released in the U.S on March 2, 2010. A pre-order package comes with instantly unlocked unlockable weapons and vehicle upgrades. Those being the Thompson M1928 Submachine Gun, Colt M1911A1 Pistol, Tracer Dart Pistol, vehicle Armor Upgrade, vehicle Secondary Weapon and vehicle Motion Detector. Some retailers also offer the AKS-74U in addition to these.

*Note: Two major flaws occur in this game: The first being that the majority of the guns available have the ejection port on the left side of the gun, even when the player character is right handed. While this would interfere with a shooter in real life, the developers decided to do this in the game. The second being that the player does not chamber a new round on most guns when both the magazine and gun are empty, and instead simply inserts a new magazine, likely for multiplayer balancing, even though it is physically impossible in real life. The previous game chambered a new round even if the gun was not empty. While not practical, this is somewhat realistic operating procedure.

'''The following guns can be seen in the video game: '''

=Battlefield: Bad Company 2=

==Handguns==

Can be used by any class once unlocked.

===Beretta M9===
The [[Beretta 92FS|Beretta M9]] is a standard semi-automatic pistol. Had a correct 15 round magazine in the Beta, but reverted to the incorrect 12-round mag for the full game. As of the current R7 patch, its damage has been increased to reflect the in-game stat difference between it and the MP-443. One way to explain the 12 round mag and higher damage than the 9mm MP-443 is that it is the .40 caliber version (only the civilian 92FS has a .40 version, but there are bigger mistakes than that). In addition the hammer is never shown cocked, even when fired, as if it were double-action only.
[[Image:M9-pistolet.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta M9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M9.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M9.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:M9BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M9, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===MP-412 REX===
The [[MP-412 REX]] .357 Magnum revolver is the most powerful, but slowest firing and lowest capacity handgun in the game. The reload animation depicts the gun with a no automatic cartridge extractor.
[[Image:Mp-412-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP-412 REX - .357]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MP412.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_MP412.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:MP-412BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MP-412 REX .357 Magnum, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Colt M1911A1===
The [[Colt M1911A1]] is instantly unlocked for players who pre-ordered Battlefield: Bad Company 2. With its .45 calibre round, it has the second highest damage of the pistols, beaten only by the MP412 REX using .357 Magnum rounds. Labeled "WWII M1911 .45" in-game. It is incorrectly portrayed as firing from an uncocked hammer (and it doesn't change at all, even the first round has been fired or the gun's slide has been pulled back while reloading), which is required for single-action pistols like the M1911A1. Unlike most weapons in game, it is correctly modeled with the right side ejection port. This is because its model is from ''[[Battlefield 1943]]'', which features proper right-handed weapons.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:957916_20091029_790screen001.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|American assault trooper with M1911A1]]
[[Image:M1911BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M1911A1 in Multiplayer for Bad Company 2, Port Valdez]]

===MP-443 Grach===
The [[MP-443 Grach]] appears in the game and has a 17-round mag, the highest of all the pistols, as well as the second lowest damage, the M93R being the lowest. In single player, this pistol is the only one available; Marlowe acquires one from Redford at the end of the mission "Upriver", and holds onto it for the rest of the game, while NSA Agent Aguire also carries one of his own.
[[Image:MP433Grach.jpg|thumb|none|350px|MP-443 Grach - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MP443.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:MP-443 Garach.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MP-443 Grach in single player, with scalar weapon in the background.]]
[[Image:MP-443 Garach2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MP-443 Grach in single player, final mission]]

===Beretta 92FS Inox (mocked up as Beretta 93R)===
On the weapon info screen the [[Beretta 93R]] is actually a modified [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS Inox]] (due to the slide mounted safety) with an 20-round magazine, larger trigger guard, extended barrel with compensator, and a folding foregrip. In game however, it is the same model as the M9 but with stainless finish, 3-round burst, and, though not visibly different, a 20 round magazine. In the kill feed it was formerly incorrectly called the M9-3, this was later fixed to call it "M93R Burst".

[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 93R - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M93.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M93R.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:M93BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Fake Beretta 93R, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Tracer Dart Gun===
The Tracer Dart Gun is a non-lethal weapon used by both Russian and American forces. The tracer darts it fires grants lock-on capabilities to allied Engineers using the RPG-7 or Carl Gustav launchers. Unlocked by default on all pre-ordered copies, but can be acquired through experience for those who did not pre-order. Unlike in the original Bad Company, the Engineer has to lock on the target by looking through the scope of the rocket launcher for a few seconds at the tracer point. After it locks on, a distance will be given. The Engineer is then free to fire in any direction, and the rocket will home in on the target. It is also capable of tracking and locking on while embedded on enemy personnel instead of vehicles.
[[Image:BC2 Tracer Dark Gun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|American engineer with Tracer Dart Gun]]
[[Image:Tracer Gun.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Tracer Dart Gun in Multiplayer]]
[[Image:Tracer Dart Lock.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Lock on as seen through the scope of a Carl Gustav. It's hard to see but there are some white numbers beneath the orange square. This is the distance and notifies the player that the missile is locked.]]

===Nambu Type 14===
In level 1 (Operation Aurora) Watanabe is seen using a Nambu Type 14, like the other WWII weapons, ported from ''[[Battlefield 1943]]''.

==Submachine Guns==

===IMI Uzi===
The [[Uzi]] appears in the game and is equipped with a suppressor. It has a very high rate of fire, more akin to that of the [[Uzi#Mini Uzi|Mini-Uzi]].
[[Image:UZIwSionics.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-UZI.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Uzi BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Uzi as seen in multiplayer]]

===M1928 Thompson===
The [[M1928 Thompson]] appears in the game and can be set to any class' primary slot once unlocked and is instantly unlocked for players who pre-ordered Battlefield: Bad Company 2. It is incorrectly identified as "WWII M1A1 Thompson" in-game when in-fact it is the M1928 model. The gun uses the same model from [[Battlefield 1943]]

It should be noted that when the player character reloads the weapon, he inserts the magazine incorrectly. Instead of using the channels on the mag catch for the magazine to slide into, he inserts it in a similar way to an AK-47 magazine, even though it isn't possible to insert a Thompson magazine without using the channels.

[[File:M1928A1 Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round magazine - .45 ACP ]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M1A1T.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:957916 20091029 790screen002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|American assault trooper with the M1928A1 Thompson]]
[[Image:ThompsonBC2M.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M1928 Thompson, Battlefield Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Port Valdez]]

===PP-2000===
The older version of the [[PP-2000]] appears in the game equipped with a suppressor and is incorrectly referred as the "PP-2000 Avtomat" ("Avtomat" is the Russian term for Assault rifle or Submachine gun, but nowadays it is more used for Assault rifles or Automatic rifles). Magazine holds 40 rounds despite being modeled with the 20-round magazine. It fires at 1000 rpm, faster than any other weapon in-game except the MG3.
[[Image:Pp-2000.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PP-2000 with ATN Ultra Sight DC red dot sight - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-PP2000.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:PP-2000.JPG|thumb|none|700px|PP-2000, Multiplayer]]

===Heckler & Koch UMP45===
The [[Heckler & Koch UMP]]45 appears in the game equipped with a suppressor and a Picatinny rail below the handguard.
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BFBC2-UMP.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:UMPBC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|UMP .45, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Isla Innocents. You can see that the selector switch is set to full auto.]]

=== Type 100 ===
The [[Type 100 submachine gun]] is found in the first level of single-player, Operation Aurora, ported from Battlefield 1943.
[[Image:Submachine gun Type 100.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Type 100 - 8x22mm Nambu.]]
[[Image:Typ 100.JPG|thumb|none|700px|The Type 100 in single-player.]]

==Assault Rifles==
Automatic Rifles are split between Carbines for the Engineer Class, and Assault Rifles for the Assault Class. All the assault rifles are equipped with an under-slung grenade launcher, capable of firing standard grenades, or either smoke or canister flechette rounds.

===9A-91===
The [[9A-91]] is the starting carbine for Engineers. Fires the 9x39mm round, has a 20 round magazine and is equipped with a suppressor.
[[Image:9a91.jpg|thumb|none|400px|9A-91 - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-9A91.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2 9A91.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:9A91BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|9A-91, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact===
The [[Heckler & Koch XM8|H&K XM8 Compact]] equipped with a suppressor is a available weapon for the Engineer Class. Has the highest rate of fire of all the rifle-caliber carbines available to the Engineer.
[[Image:xm8ccbutt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|H&K XM8 Compact Carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-XM8C.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:XM8COMPACTBC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM8 Compact, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Arica Harbor]]

===AKS-74U===
The [[AKS-74U]] is instantly unlocked for players who pre-ordered Battlefield: Bad Company 2. Equipped with a suppressor. Referred to as the "AKS-74U Krinkov" in-game. Oddly, in the weapons info screen it has black plastic furniture, but in-game it has wood furniture. This is because the version in Bad Company 2 is simply a reskin of the original [[Battlefield: Bad Company | Bad Company]]'s AKS-74U, in which it had the plastic furniture.
[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AKS74U.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AKS74UBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AKS-74U as seen in Multiplayer for Bad Company 2, Port Valdez]]
[[Image:AKS74UBC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AKS-74U in the final mission of the single player for Bad Company 2. It seems that this scene was inspired by a similar scene in the movie ''[[Shoot 'em Up]]''.]]

===FN SCAR-L CQC===
An early version of the [[FN SCAR|SCAR-L]] assault rifle is the first unlockable weapon for the Engineer in multiplayer. Equipped with a suppressor. When firing bursts of automatic fire, the weapon ejects casings at a faster rate than it fires and cycles. This is probably due to it reusing scripts from [[Battlefield: Bad Company]], in which it had a faster ROF.
[[Image:Scar l-1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|First Gen FN SCAR-L - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SCARL.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:SCARLBC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|SCAR-L, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

===AEK-971===
Called "AEK-971 Vintovka" in the weapons screen, the [[AEK-971]] is the Assault's starting Assault rifle. Used as the main weapon of the South American militia in Single Player. Equipped with the GP-30 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher.
[[Image:AEK-971 left side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AEK-971 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC-AEK971.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_AEK971.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:AEK91BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AEK-971, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]
[[Image:AEK971BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AEK-971 w/ 4x scope and GP-30, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Heckler & Koch XM8===
The [[Heckler & Koch XM8]] is an unlockable Assault Rifle. It is used with the XM320 Underbarrel Grenade Launcher. In Campaign mode, it replaces the M416 as the signature weapon of B-Company. Redford and Marlowe use ACOGs, while Haggard uses a Red Dot Sight, though Redford and Haggard's optics are always present in gameplay, they only sometimes appear in cutscenes, while Marlowe's is always there (except in the tanker cutscene).

[[Image:XM8.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-XM8.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_XM8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:XM8 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM8 in Bad Company 2 Multiplayer with 4x scope]]
[[Image:XM8BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM8, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

===Heckler & Koch HK416 D10RS===
Referred as the M416. Apparently in the Bad Company universe, the [[Heckler & Koch HK416]] weapon has been adopted by the US Army, thus the ''M416'' designation.

[[File:HK 416 D.jpg|thumb|none|350px|HK416 D10RS - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-HK416.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:M416.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Heckler & Koch HK416 + M203 in Multiplayer w/ 4x scope]]

===Colt M4A1===
The [[Colt M4A1|M4A1 Carbine]] is seen being held by the soldier on the box art, but is not in the game.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2.jpg|thumb|250px|none]]

===AN-94===
The [[AN-94]] ingame is permanently set to the two-round burst mode, but incorrectly fires at the full-auto mode's 600 RPM instead of the burst mode's much higher fire rate. Equipped with the GP-30 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher. Used by the majority of Russian soldiers in single-player.
[[Image:an94-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nikonov AN-94 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AN94.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AN94BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AN-94 with Red Dot sight and GP-30, Bad Company 2, Arica Harbor]]

===Colt M16A4===
The [[M16 rifle series#M16A4 Rifle|M16A4 rifle]] is an unlockable assault rifle and correctly fires in 3-round bursts. Note that it's erroneously referred to as the "[[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2]]" in the game. It can be fitted with an ACOG scope, red dot sight, and M203 grenade launcher as described below. The "M16" (which ''was'' a M16A2) has been replaced in ''Battlefield: Bad Company 2'' by the "M16A2". The "M16A2" differs from the original M16 that was used in the first ''Bad Company'' in multiple ways: a 30 round magazine size instead of the 50 round size, a three round burst instead of being fully automatic, multiple Weapon Attachments (as is the case with most weapons in Bad Company 2). It requires 47000 Points to unlock, and is the last unlock in the "Assault" kit

[[Image:M16A4M203.jpg|thumb|none|501px|M16A4 (5.56x45mm) with M203 40mm grenade launcher]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M16.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"M16A2" with M203 Grenade Launcher.]]
[[Image:M16BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|"M16A2" with M203 Grenade Launcher and 4x scope, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Arica Harbor. Even though the ejection port is on the left side of the gun, the forward assist is still on the right side. Note that the front sight is missing as well.]]

===Steyr AUG A3===
Called the "STG.77 AUG" in-game, its official designation in the Austrian Army.
[[Image:Steyr_AUG_A3+40mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Steyr AUG A3 (5.56x45mm) with M203 40mm grenade launcher]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AUGBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AUG A3 + M203 with Red Dot sight, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]
[[Image:F200BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AUG A3 with M203 grenade launcher and 4x scope, Arica Harbor.]]

===FN F2000 Tactical===
The [[FN F2000 Tactical]] is an unlockable assault rifle, called the "F2000 Assault" in the game. Description shows it is equipped with the[[FN EGLM|FN GL-1]] 4. It fires at a comparatively high 850 rpm compared to other assault rifles, but its report makes it sound as if it fires faster.
[[Image:FN_F2000_tactical.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN F2000 Tactical with CAA FVG5 foregrip - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-F2000.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Note that the info screen depicts a civilian [[FN F2000#FN FS2000 |FS2000]] with a FN GL-1 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:BC2_F2000.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FN F2000 Tactical with M203 Grenade Launcher]]
[[Image:F2000BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|F2000 Tactical with GL-1 and Red Dot sight, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer. The sight for the GL is on the right hand side of the gun, rather than on the left hand side or top]]

==Battle Rifles==
Can be used by any class once unlocked.

===M1 Garand===
The [[M1 Garand]] can be unlocked by registering as a Battlefield "veteran" (i.e. registering at least one other Battlefield-series game). Called "WWII M1 Garand" in-game. Oddly, the picture of it in the weapons info screen is the Type 5 rifle. Can be set to any class' primary slot. Another weapon carried over from ''1943'', and hence has correct right-hand ejection and charging handle.
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand semiautomatic rifle - .30-06]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M1G.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Garand Multiplayer BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Garand, Multiplayer Bad Company 2, Valparaiso]]
[[Image:GarandBC2v2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Garand, Multiplayer Bad Company 2, Nelson Bay Conquest. This one is not in the shadows, giving it more detail.]]

===Heckler & Koch G3A3===
Simply called "G3" in-game, the [[Heckler & Koch G3|G3A3]] has a 20-round magazine and full-auto fire capability. Can be set to any class' primary slot. Also, despite claiming to be unlocked at Rank 26, players really unlock it at Rank 22, the first officer rank. One of the very few weapons other then sniper rifles and belt-fed machine guns to have correct right-hand modeling.
[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-G3.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:G3.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 in game multiplayer]]

===MK 14 Mod 0 EBR===
The [[M14#Mk_14_Mod_0_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR]] (Enhanced Battle Rifle) is an unlockable weapon in multiplayer. It is incorrectly called "M14 Mod 0 Enhanced" in the game and has a desert-tan camo paint. Has semi-auto only firing option and can be set to any class' primary slot, has a 10 round capacity despite what it says in the description. Has a right-hand bolt, but ejects to the left. The related original [[M14]] appears in the Vietnam expansion pack.
[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR - 7.62x51 NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MK14.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:BC2_M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 EBR, 7.62 x 51 mm NATO]]
[[Image:M14EBRBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M14 EBR 7.62 x 51 mm NATO, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

=== Type 5 Garand Copy ===
The [[M1 Garand#Type 5|Type 5]] is the standard weapon for the Japanese forces in the single-player mode. Note that the Japanese only produced this weapon in 1945 and very few were made; none however, saw any service. It uses the same model as the Type 5 from Battlefield 1943, and functions in an identical fashion to the M1 Garand. Unusually, the game allows the weapon to be reloaded partway through an en-bloc clip by using the clip latch. As with the Garand in ''[[Turning Point: Fall of Liberty]]'' there is no model for an empty or partially fired clip, so regardless of how many rounds have been fired the Type 5 is always shown ejecting a completely full clip at the start of the reload animation, in contrast to the Garand's clip, which is always shown as empty.

[[Image:Type5.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Type 5 - 7.7x58mm]]
[[Image:Japanese Garand.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Type 5 Garand copy in single-player. Note the Imperial chrysanthemum symbol stamped on the receiver, behind the sight.]]

==Sniper Rifles==
Sniper rifles are exclusive to the recon class.

===Norinco QBU-88===
The [[Norinco QB rifle series#Norinco QBU-88|Norinco QBU-88]] is called the "Type 88 Sniper" in-game.
[[Image:Qbu-88-0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco QBU-88 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-QBU88.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2 QBU-88.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T88BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|QBU-88, Single Player Bad Company 2, 3rd level]]

===SV-98===
The [[SV-98]] is called the "SV-98 Snaiperskaya" in the game. It has a green finish, with the bipod folded in.
[[Image:SV98.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SV-98 - 7.62x54R/7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SV98.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_GOL.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:SV98BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px| SV-98, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso Rush]]

===VSS Vintorez===
The [[VSS Vintorez]], In-game identified as the "VSS Snaiperskaya Special" (rather redundant, as VSS stands for "Vintovka Snaiperskaya Spetsialnaya" or Special Sniper Rifle. Essentially, the game identifies it as a Special Sniper Rifle Sniper Special.) Modeled with 10-round magazine, but carries 20. Fires full auto only, while the real VSS is select-fire.
[[Image:Vss1.jpg|thumb|none|401px|VSS Vintorez - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-VSS.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]

===M24A2 Sniper Rifle===
The A2 variant of the [[Remington Model 700#M24 Sniper Rifle|M24 sniper rifle]] is the standard bolt-action sniper rifle used by Recon class, referred to as the "M24 Sniper".
[[Image:M24.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M24A2 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M24.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M24.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:M24BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M24, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Barrett M95===
The [[Barrett M95]] is called the "M95 Sniper" in the game.
[[Image:barrett_m90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Barrett M95 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M95.jpg|thumb|none|700px|In fact, it is an anti-materi'''a'''l rifle]]
[[Image:Barret 95.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Barret M95, .50BMG Multiplayer Bad Company 2, Valparaiso]]

===GOL sniper rifle===
The [[GOL sniper rifle]] is called the "GOL Sniper Magnum" in the game.
[[Image:GOL Sniper Magnum.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GOL-Sniper - .338 Lapua]]
[[Image:BFBC2-GOL.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:GOLBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|GOL, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Isla Innocents]]

===SVU Dragunov===
The [[SVU Dragunov]] is called the "SVU Snaiperskaya Short" in the game. Equipped with a suppressor and PSO-1 scope.
[[Image:Svu.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SVU - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SVU.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:SVUBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|SVU, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa Rush]]

==Machine Guns==

Available to the Medic class.

===M249 SAW Paratrooper===
The [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW Paratrooper]] is called the "M249 SAW" in the game. Has a 200 round belt. As in the previous game, it has an M249-E2 heat shield.
[[Image:M249ParaModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M249 Paratrooper - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M249.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:M249ParaBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M249 Para, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Port Valdez]]

===PKM===
The [[PKM]] is called the "PKM LMG" in the game. This is the starting weapon for medics in multiplayer. Has a 100 round belt.
[[Image:HungarianPKM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKM - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BFBC2-PKM.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_PKM.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:PKM.JPG|thumb|700px|none|PKM, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Atacama Desert Rush]]

===Heckler & Koch MG36===
The [[Heckler & Koch MG36]] is called the "MG36" in the game. Has a 100 round Beta-C Mag. It's aimed using the Export version's 1.5x reflex sight, usable even without the Red Dot specialization. Using the 4x Scope spec. with this give the default optic some zoom. Before a patch that was released a few months after the game's release this weapon was basically unusable in Hardcore mode, as the sight's aiming dot was bugged (did not show up) in that mode. Apparently, it was accidentally considered a HUD item that shouldn't be displayed (Hardcore features a minimalistic HUD) in that mode.
[[Image:MG36.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heckler & Koch MG36 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MG36.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:MG36 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MG36 Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Heckler & Koch XM8 Automatic Rifle ===
The [[Heckler & Koch XM8#Heckler & Koch XM8 Automatic Rifle|H&K XM8 Automatic Rifle ]] is called the "XM8 LMG" in the game. Has the same magazine as the MG36. The in-game description incorrectly states it comes with a built-in scope, when in fact it will only have a scope if one is equipped by the player as an attachment.
[[Image:XM8 LMG.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch XM8 LMG - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-XM8MG.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:XM8LMGBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px| XM8 LMG with 4x scope, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa Rush]]
[[Image:XM8MGBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px| XM8 LMG, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso Rush]]

===QJY-88===
The [[QJY-88]] is called the "Type-88 LMG" in the game. Has a 200 round belt.
[[Image:type88gpmg2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|QJY 88 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-QJY88.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Type88BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|QJY88 w/ Red Dot sight as seen in Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Nelson Bay]]

===M60===
The [[M60]] is called the "M60 LMG" in the game. Has a 100 round belt. Functions as Sweetwater's new signature gun in campaign mode, replacing his original M249.
[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M60.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Note that M60 is a medium machine gun, not light machine gun (LMG)]]
[[Image:BC2_M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Terrence Sweetwater wielding his M60, alongside Preston Marlowe and his XM8.]]
[[Image:M60 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M60 with red dot sight in multiplayer, Bad Company 2]]

===MG3===
The modernized MG42 rebranded the [[MG3]]. Has a 150 round belt and the highest rate of fire of any of the LMGs.
[[Image:MG 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MG3.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_MG3.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:MG3 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MG3, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer with Red Dot sight.]]
[[Image:MG3BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MG3, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

==Shotguns==

Can be used by any class once unlocked. Can be equipped with extended magazines or loaded with slugs once either are unlocked.

===Remington 870 MCS===
Called "870 Combat" in the game. The [[Remington 870|Remington 870 MCS]] has a four round tube as standard, eight rounds with extended mags. It is always modeled withe the longer magazine tube. First unlocked shotgun.
[[Image:Remington_870MCS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870MCS - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M870.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:REMINGTON870BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Remington 870, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Nelson Bay]]

===Franchi SPAS-12===
Called the "SPAS-12 Combat" in the game. The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] has the same magazine tube sizes as the 870 MCS, and operates only in pump-action mode. Judging by its barrel length, it is the compact variant.
[[Image:Franchi12.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 Compact variant - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Spas 12 Multiplayer.JPG|thumb|none|700px|SPAS-12 Multiplayer, Port Valdez]]

===NeoStead 2000===
Called the "Neostead 2000 Combat" in the game. The [[NeoStead 2000]] has a four shot mag tube as standard, increased to eight with extended mags.
[[Image:Neostead.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Neostead Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-NS2000.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_NS2000.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neostead Shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:NEOSTEAD2000.JPG|thumb|none|700px|NeoStead Shotgun 12 Gauge, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===Izhmash Saiga-20===
Called "Saiga 20K Semi" in the game. The [[Izhmash Saiga series shotgun#Saiga 20|Saiga-20K]] has a six shot magazine as standard, increased to twelve with extended mags.
[[Image:Saiga20k.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Saiga 20K - 20 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-S20.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Saiga12KBC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Saiga 20K 20g, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===USAS-12===
Called the "USAS-12 Automatic" in the game. The [[USAS-12]] has same mag capacities as the Saiga-20K.
[[Image:USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|USAS-12 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|USAS 12 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BC2USAS12SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|USAS-12, final mission single player. This is what happens when you unload several 12 round 12 gauge magazines in rapid succession inside an airplane]]

===TOZ-194===
The [[TOZ-194]] is available in the PS3 and PC beta, but only usable in Single Player in the full game. Has a 8-round mag capacity, a slug version can also be found in single-player, although the slugs seem to ''explode'' on impact, making it quite useful as an accurate "power weapon".
[[Image:Toz194.jpg|thumb|none|401px|TOZ-194 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:TOZ.JPG|thumb|none|700px|TOZ-194, 12 Gauge Singleplayer 2nd level]]
[[Image:TOZBC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|TOZ-194, 12 Gauge Singleplayer 3rd level]]

==Launchers==

===M203 Grenade Launcher===

The [[M203 grenade launcher]] appears in the game mounted on the HK416, M16A4, and AUG A3.

[[Image:M16A4M203.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M203 40mm grenade launcher mounted on an M16A4 (5.56x45mm)]]
[[Image:BC2_M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M203 grenade launcher mounted on an M16A4 in ''Battlefield: Bad Company 2''. Note that the M16A4's ejection port & brass deflector are modeled on the wrong side of the weapon]]
===FN GL-1===
The GL-1 is mounted on the FN F2000 Tactical.

===GP-30===
The [[GP-30]] grenade launcher is mounted on the AEK-971 and the AN-94.
[[Image:Gp-30 ak-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GP-30 40mm grenade launcher mounted on an [[AK-74]] (5.45x39mm)]]
[[Image:BC2_AEK971.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AEK-971 with GP-30 in game.]]

===Heckler & Koch XM320===
The [[Heckler & Koch M320|XM320]] grenade launcher is mounted on the XM8.

[[Image:XM320.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM320 - 40x46mm. Note lack of a front grip, added only to the production M320. The version in-game uses an earlier version of the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:BC_XM8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier aims an XM8 fitted with an XM320. Note the lack of a folding front grip.]]
[[Image:AG36BC2Reloading.JPG|thumb|none|600px|XM320 Reloading, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

===RPG-7===
The [[RPG-7]] is the standard Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher used by Russian Engineer class. It is an unguided direct-fire weapon, but it can somehow also be used as a guided rocket launcher using Tracer Dart Gun. It is fitted with a PGO-7 scope.
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2 RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:RPG7BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|RPG-7, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Arica Harbor]]

===Pansarskott m/86===
The Swedish Army version of the [[M136 AT4]], the Pansarskott m/86, appears in-game. It has a (incorrect) built in tracking system, and is thereby not compatible with the Tracer Dart Gun. The reload animation is the player throwing away the launcher and grabbing a new one from his back. This means that the Engineer can carry up to 8 AT4's on their back if the extra explosives perk is chosen.
[[Image:Pskott86.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|The Pansarskott m/86. ]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AT4.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The m/86 in ''BF:BC2''.]]
[[Image:AT4 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AT4 in multiplayer. Note the grip, distinguishing it from the "M136' variant.]]
[[Image:AT4 sight.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AT4 sight. The sight is a laser targeting system, with the orange square being where the rocket will impact. If the launcher is discarded before the missile impacts, the missile will still turn to follow the laser point, most likely making it hit the ground.]]

===Carl Gustav M3===
The [[Carl Gustav recoilless rifle#Carl Gustav M3|Carl Gustav M3]] is the Anti-Tank recoilless rifle used by the engineer class. Like the RPG-7, it can be used as a guided rocket launcher using Tracer Dart Gun. It is erroneously referred as the M2 model, which is distinguished from the M3 model by its lack of a carrying handle.

[[Image:CarlGustavM3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Carl Gustav M3 - 84mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M2CG.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:CarlGustavBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Carl Gustav, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer]]

==Emplaced Weapons==

===XM312===
The [[XM307 & XM312#XM312|XM312]] is mounted on Humvees, CAVs, and stationary turrets.
[[Image:XM312hmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|XM312 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:Mounted Weapons.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM307 and XM312 mounted on a CAV in single player. The 307 is controlled by the player (who is also the driver) while a squadmate controls the 312.]]
[[Image:XM312BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM312 mounted on a Humvee, First Person View. Note lack of bullets feeding into the gun]]
[[Image:XM312BC2V2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM312 mounted on a Humvee, Side View]]
[[Image:XM312Shield.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM312 mounted on a Shield, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Nelson Bay. The shield is impervious to everything except explosives. Even a .50 Cal sniper round is unable to get through the viewing port.]]

===Kord heavy machine gun===
The [[Kord heavy machine gun|Kord]] is mounted on stationary turrets and Vodniks.
[[Image:Kord 02.jpg|thumb|none|401px|Kord heavy machine gun with ammo box - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:BC2_KORD.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kord heavy machine gun 12.7x108mm with ammo drum]]
[[Image:KordBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Kord Heavy machine gun, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Isla Innocents]]

===Browning M1919===
The [[Browning M1919]] only (and incorrectly) appears in the first level as a mounted machine gun used by the Japanese.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A variant of the Browning M1919 developed during World War 2, this model is designated the M37, with the ability to feed from either the left or the right of the weapon - 30-06. This example is shown without a tripod, only the pintle mount. This is the MOST likely .30 cal machine gun to be seen firing from armored vehicles.]]
[[Image:Browning 1919.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Browning M1919 .30 Cal Left side]]
[[Image:Browning 1919 2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Browning M1919 .30 Cal Right side]]

=== Browning M2 ===
The [[Browning M2]] is mounted on top of the American M1A2 tank
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:Tank BFBC2.png|thumb|none|700px]]

===FN M240C===
The [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240C]] is coaxial mounted on the M1A2 Abrams MBT.
[[Image:M240C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M240C vehicle coaxial-mount version - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

===PKT===
The [[PK Machine Gun|PKT]] is coaxial mounted on the T-90 MBT.
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun with 250-round ammo drum - 7.62x54mm R]]

===M134 Minigun===
The [[M134 Minigun]] is mounted on UH-60 Black Hawks.
[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm]]

===XM307===
The [[XM307 & XM312#XM307 ACSW|XM307]] is found mounted on the CAV and a pair are mounted on the Patrol Boat. In an update on the 8th of June the standalone XM307 has been added to the multiplayer stats section, and has been added in game in Map Pack 4. In the stats section it is incorrectly named an XM306, but in the in game killfeed it says XM307 like it should.
[[Image:Xm30750cal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|XM307 ACSW - 25x59mm HEAB]]
[[Image:BC2_XM312.jpg|thumb|none|600px|XM307]]
[[Image:Mounted Weapons.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM307 and XM312 mounted on a CAV in single player. The 307 is controlled by the player (who is also the driver) while a squadmate controls the 312.]]

=== Norinco QLZ-87===
The emplaced version of the [[QLZ-87]] was originally found only in the single player game. In an update on the 8th of June, it was added to the multiplayer stats section, and was added to multiplayer proper with the Onslaught DLC, where it appeared on the Atacama Desert and Isla Inocentes maps.
[[Image:QLZ87Heavy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|QLZ-87 - 35mm]]
[[Image:MGL BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px]]

===BGM-71 TOW===
Mounted on stationary turrets and some Humvees.
[[Image:Tow 07.jpg|thumb|none|400px|BGM-71 TOW mounted on M220 tripod 152mm]]

===AT-14 Spriggan===
The [[AT-14 Spriggan]] (Russian designation 9M133 ''Kornet'') is mounted on stationary turrets.

[[Image:AT14-Spriggan.JPG‎|thumb|none|400px|AT-14 Spriggan launcher and missile - 152mm]]

===ZU-23-2===
Mounted alone and sometimes on the BMD-3
[[Image:ZU-23.jpg|thumb|none|400px|ZU-23-2 - 23x152mm]]

===M167 VADS===
Mounted alone and on an M113 chassis. In an update on the 8th of June it has been added to the multiplayer stats section, and has been added in large numbers to the Map Pack 4 maps, Atacama Desert Rush and Port Valdez Conquest. The only sign of the M113 mounted version is in the game files and in the picture for the vehicle perks shortcut upgrade in the game store.

[[Image:M167BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M167, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Atacama Desert Rush]]

=Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam (Expansion Pack)=
'''''Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam''''' is an expansion pack for the original game that takes place during the Vietnam War. It was released in December 2010 as a multiplayer-only DLC and requires BF: BC2 to work.

==Handguns==
===Colt M1911A1===
The [[M1911A1]] makes a return in the expansion. Performs exactly as in the original game.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M911A1.]]

===TT-33===
The [[Tokarev TT-33 Pistol]] is the second available sidearm in the expansion. In incorrectly holds 12 rounds and has the same stats as the Beretta M9 in the base game.
[[Image:TT-33-Wartime.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev. Pre-1947 version.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-TT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the TT-33.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-TT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player's character holds a TT-33 pistol.]]

==Submachine Guns==
===PPSh-41===
The [[PPSh-41]] is available to the Engineer class. Called "PPSh" in the game. Despite being modeled with a 71-round drum magazine, the in-game weapon has a capacity of 25 rounds and also has a very slow rate of fire. This was done to balance out game statistics.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377631photo_1292995572battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41]]
[[Image:BC2V-PPSH.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41 in idle.]]
[[Image:Asdadsadsasdasdasda.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the submachine gun.]]

===Ingram MAC-10===
The [[MAC-10]] appears as "M10" in the game and has a unrealistic 40-round magazine capacity.
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|none|300px|MAC-10 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377661photo_1292995623battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MAC-10]]
[[Image:BC2V-MAC10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MAC-10 in idle.]]
[[Image:Mac10123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the MAC-10. The symbol of the peace is scratched into the back of the gun. Sights are incorrectly placed, and shot placement would be above your intended target in reality.]]

===IMI Uzi===
The [[Uzi]] makes a return in the expansion. This time it appears without a suppressor.
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377651photo_1292995608battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Uzi]]
[[Image:BC2V-UZI.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holding the Uzi.]]
[[Image:Uzi123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the Uzi.]]

==Assault Rifles / Battle Rifles==
===Colt Model 715===
The [[Colt Model 715]] is issued to the Assault Kit. It can be identified by the brass defector an newer forward bolt assist. It has been modeled with a three prong flash hider and a triangular handguard. A similar concept and design can be seen in the film [[Operation Dumbo Drop]]. Called M16A1 in game. Has the highest rate of fire but the slowest reload among the assault rifles. Has a 30-round capacity despite being modeled with a Vietnam-era 20-round magazine.
[[Image:Colt715 C7Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 715 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377591photo_1292995457battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt 715]]
[[Image:BC2V-M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holding the 715 in BC2: Vietnam.]]
[[Image:M16_reloading.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the 715 in the game.]]
[[Image:M16_sighth.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the Colt 715 rifle.]]

===AK-47===
The [[AK-47]] appears in the expansion as an other usable assault rifle. It is very popular in the game due to its high damage and moderate accuracy.
[[Image:TypeIII_AK47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Izhmash AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377601photo_1292995478battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-47. Note that the cloth wrapped around the receiver would cause issues with the charging-handle's reciprocation.]]
[[Image:BC2V-AK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AK-47 in idle.]]
[[Image:Reloadingvietnam.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the AK-47 in the game. Actually it is more like a hybrid, as it has a stamped receiver but lacks the slant muzzle brake.]]

===M14===
Dubbed an assault rifle in-game, the [[M14]] is fully automatic in the expansion, it has the highest damage but the slow rate of fire and a 20-round magazine. Referred to as "M14 Assault".
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377611photo_1292995507battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M14]]
[[Image:BC2V-M14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M14 in the player's hands.]]
[[Image:M14123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M14 - Iron sights.]]

==Sniper Rifles==
===Norinco NDM-86===
The [[SVD Dragunov#Norinco NDM-86|Norinco NDM-86]] is used by the Recon class. Holds 10 rounds and has a stronger default scope than any other sniper rifle in the game. It is incorrectly identified as a SVD in-game when in-fact it is a Norinco NDM-86, a .308 version made in China, using straight magazines. This particular model would be anachronistic.
[[Image:Ndm86.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco NDM-86 - .308 Winchester/7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BBC2V-NDM86-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the "SVD".]]
[[Image:BBC2V-NDM86-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|First person view of an NDM-86 rifle.]]

===M40 Sniper Rifle===
The [[Remington Model 700#M40 Sniper Rifle|M40 Sniper Rifle]] is the most powerful non-explosive weapon in the game capable of killing anyone in one shot to the head or chest. Its only drawback is the 5-round capacity and slow (bolt-action) rate of fire. The rifle is incorrectly portrayed with a 5-round detachable box magazine instead of the internal magazine. The [[M40A5]] (introduced in 2009) is the variant that has a removable magazine.
[[Image:M40a1standard-1-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M40A1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M40-1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The M40's stats.]]
[[Image:BC2V-M40.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The player's character wields an M40A1 in the game.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M40-2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The player's character reloads the M40A1.]]

===M21===
The [[M21]] sniper rifle is modeled with a 20-round magazine but holds only 10 bullets. It is identical to the SVD Dragunov in stats.
[[Image:Xm21rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M21 Sniper Rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M21-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M21 rifle.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M21-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Using the M21 sniper rifle.]]

==Shotgun==
===Remington 870===
The [[Remington 870 Shotgun]] appears as "870 Combat" an is the only usable shotgun in the expansion. It has wooden furniture and no accessory rails, and does even higher damage at close range than in the base game.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BBC2V-870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the Remington 870.]]
[[Image:BC2V-870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Remington 870 in the player's hands.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player's character wields a 870.]]

==Machine Guns==
===Stoner 63===
The [[Stoner 63]] is called the "XM22" in the game, and feeds from a 200-round belt box. Note that the belt feeds into the left side of the weapon instead of the right, and that the reload animation is entirely incorrect (it is the same as BC2's M249 SAW's, while the XM22 has no charging handle on the right side).
[[Image:StonerM63.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Stoner 63 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377681photo_1292995682battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stoner 63]]
[[Image:Asdadsasdasdasdasdas.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Stoner 63 in first person.]]

===RPK===
The [[RPK]] appears with an incorrect 100-round drum mag (should hold 75 rounds) in the expansion. Has the fastest reload time among the light machine guns. Due to this being nothing more than a model replacement for the base game's PKM, spent brass is seen ejecting to the left side, right through the receiver cover instead of through the ejection port.
[[Image:Rpk_01_drum.jpg|thumb|none|501px|RPK - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377691photo_1292995705battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPK]]
[[Image:Pkm123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shooting the RPK.]]
[[Image:Pkmreloading.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading animation of the RPK.]]

===M60===
The [[M60]] is available to the medic class, and differs only cosmetically from the version found in the base game.
[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun with bipod folded - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377701photo_1292995724battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M60]]
[[Image:M60123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shooting the M60 machine gun.]]

===M60D===
Two [[M60D]] machine guns are mounted on every UH-1 "Huey" helicopter. It appears to be modeled with the lower handguard of the normal M60.
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60D - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HueyM60DMount.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M60D Machine Gun on the M23 Armament Subsystem]]

===Browning M1919===
The [[Browning M1919]] is seen mounted on American M15A jeeps & River Patrol Boats.
[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 on M2 tripod - .30-06]]
[[Image:Twin30Cal.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Twin mount Browning M1919 similar to the ones on River Patrol Boats.]]
[[Image:PBRMainSeat.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twin Browning M1919 in-game as seen from the gunner seat on a River Patrol Boat.]]
[[Image:PBRSecondSeat.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Single Browning M1919 gunner seat on a River Patrol Boat.]]

===MG34===
The [[MG34]] is mounted on NVA T54 tanks and GAZ69 trucks.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 with front and rear sights folded down - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

===Browning M2===
The [[Browning M2]] appears to be the mounted HMG on the M48 Patton Tank.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:M2BrowningM48Patton.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Browning M2 mounted on M48 Patton.]]
[[Image:M48Pattonm2Browning.jpg|thumb|none|550px|An close up view of the commander's cupola and the M2 Browning on a real M48 Patton.]]
[[Image:USMBTM48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A picture of the in-game M48 Patton where we can clearly see the mounted the M2 Browning.]]

==Launchers==
===M79===
The [[M79 grenade launcher]] is issued as a gadget to the Assault kit. It is the equivalent of the 40mm Grenade Launchers from the base game. It can be decked out in a tiger-stripe paint scheme as seen in ''[[Apocalypse Now]]''.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40mm]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M79.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:BC2V-M79.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M79 has a spiraling tiger stripe pattern on it, featured in the original ''[[Battlefield: Vietnam]]'', and an obvious homage to ''Apocalypse Now''.]]

===RPG-7===
In Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam, the [[RPG-7]] is issued to the Engineer kit. It features its standard iron sights but is otherwise similar to the RPG-7 from the base game.
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:BC2V-RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holding the RPG-7 in the game.]]

==Miscellaneous==
===M2 Flamethrower===
The [[M2 Flamethrower]] is a powerful weapon issued to all kits. It has a limited amount of fuel (300 "rounds"), but this allows a continuous spray of fire until it runs out. It doesn't have a reload animation. Any spare gas will be instantly loaded if the reload button is pressed.
[[Image:M2_Flamethrower.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M2 Flamethrower]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M2 flamethrower.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player's character holds the M2.]]
[[Image:BC2V-Flamethrower.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Firing the M2 Flamethrower.]]
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Talk:Grand Theft Auto V

2014-08-18T13:28:25Z

Sandymon: /* Bullpup Rifle */

== new page and type 56-2 ==

Hi!
I made this kinda quick. Didn't have a lot of time to check errors.
I'm relatively new to the editing in this site. So if any veteran
around with more knowledge could help improve the article would be indeed
great.
When it comes to the weapon, I believe it's a Norinco Type 56-2 since the stock
looks like the one in a Type 56-2. Otherwise correct if I'm wrong.
Also one of the guys seems to have a laser sight. Don't know which sort though
[[User:Santos|Santos]] 17:08, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

The rifles seem to have some sort of rail system on them... which I think is a shame--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 10:55, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

:Most likely is the handguard with picatinny rails. The guy knocking on the van leading those other two men, seems to have a laser sight attached to it. This is a handguard is from FAB-Defense. http://www.fab-defense.com/images/big-details/ak-47-1.jpg

One of the screenshots mentions "excellent" trigger discipline, to me it looks like his finger is actually on the trigger as there is a small curve in the shape of the finger, I wouldn't refer to that as excellent trigger discipline. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:42, 1 December 2011 (CST)

:To me it looks like the guy is holding his finger just slightly above the trigger area, not excellent but still better than most games have, to be honest the only game i can remember that had great trigger discipline was MGS4 where Snake kept his finger completely off the triggers of all weapons unless he was aiming them, but i think that since they're both video games, bad trigger discipline can be excused since i doubt developers want to spend who knows how many hours giving every character separate finger animations for trigger discipline, and also there is the fact that the character can have their fingers wrapped around the triggers, but the players have theirs completely off the fire button, so essentially, it's our own 'trigger' discipline that video game characters have (least that's how i see it) we should save the bad trigger discipline arguments for movies.[[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 16:26, 8 March 2012 (CST)
::Add ''[[ArmA 2]]'' to the list of games with excellent trigger discipline. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

== M4? ==

Help to identify; looks like a M4 rifle with longer (?) and suppressed barrel. [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] ([[User talk:Pawelm|talk]]) 13:55, 10 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I would say that it has a shorter barrel than an M4A1. I would say it's a suppressed [[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 14:21, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Suppressor resembles an AAC model which covers more of the barrel than the KAC suppressors we commonly see, so it's possible it could still be an M4. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:10, 10 November 2012 (EST)

:If it was an M4 length barrel, there would be no suppressor left to actually trap the gas to suppress the weapon. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 22:24, 10 November 2012 (EST)

looks like it has the older CAR-15 style stock [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:38, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:What people refer to as CAR-15s (XM177, XM177E1, XM177E2 etc) were fitted with a stock that was made of aluminium with a black polymer coating as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#2nd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. Later Colt carbines up to and including the M4 had a synthetic fiberlite stock as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#3rd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. The easiest way to tell them apart are the vertical reinforcing ribs that are present on the side of the fiberlite stock, which are present in the game gun. As this stock can be found on Mk. 18s, Model 933s and M4s (all of which this gun could be depending on how the suppressor fits) that doesn't really help. However as the gun has the slim handguard rather than the thicker double heat shield M4 handguard, my best guess would be a Mk. 18. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:03, 11 November 2012 (EST)
::What I think he meant was this is the 3rd Gen stock, the four-position plastic, not the newer six-position.--[[User:Sangheili1155|Sangheili1155]] ([[User talk:Sangheili1155|talk]]) 02:43, 12 November 2012 (EST)
I've seen scans that show one of the other characters holding that weapon without a suppressor on it. I'd definitely go with Mk.18 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 01:12, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure that this is why this image is in this section, but I cant believe these animated pictures as validation for the weapons in the game. GTA IV had MANY weapons in the loading screens that for what ever reason never made it to the final product.--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:05, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:Check the [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] page and you'll notice we include loading screen weapons on it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

::If a weapon is in the game and can be identified, then it should be identified. This includes artwork, loading screens, stock footage, in-game posters, whatever; if it's a clear and identifiable shot it's included. Weapons only seen in previews can also be included as long as the image is from a legitimate source and not leaked. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (EST)

Cover for the latest Game Informer magazine. You can see the suppressor is missing but the muzzle and the barrel is missing [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Weapon Selection hope==

So I don't know about most of you, but one of the worst aspects to these games is the frank lack of weapons for which you to use. I am not saying that the game doesn't need 100 different firearms, but there is no need to use the low level weapons once the higher tier weapons are unlocked (compare the Glock and Desert Eagle in GTA IV, how often do you use the Glock after unlocking). If nothing else I hope that this game has at least 3-4 variations in firearm. There are tons of vehicles to choose from, but you dont spend most of your time offing people with cars. Having to use the same repetitive weapon again and again bores me. What are your thoughts?--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:09, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Four or five options of each type sound good to me. I'm hoping we get a silenced pistol again this time. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)

:@Spartan198, exactly! The way I have seen it (for example), in the pistol category there should be a standard (Glock), Hi standard (1911), Burst (Beretta 93R), Special (Silenced [if no ability to customize]), and Magnum (Desert Eagle/Equivilant). Now this is a very basic look, but I think you can catch my drift. Same thing for shotguns where there should be a Double Barrell (For range and/or sawed off), Pump (Mossberg), Semi Auto (Benelli M4), and Automatic (USAS-12/AA-12). You can make any adjustments for which weapons are in which category does not matter. But the differences. --[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 12:45, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Seeing the silenced 56-2s in the reveal; its likely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 01:25, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping to see an [[Ithaca 37]] in this like in San Andreas, being that this is taking place in the same fictional Los Angeles. --[[User:QueenSasha24|QueenSasha24]] ([[User talk:QueenSasha24|talk]]) 04:01, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping for a SIG P226 myself this time around, but with the 92FS, that's looking unlikely. I like Valiant's system of classification, though. Using that system, I'd like to see assault rifles classified like this: an AKMS without a stock (low accuracy, short range), the Type 56 (medium accuracy, short range), the AR-15 variant (high accuracy, medium range), TAR-21 (high accuracy, long range). A grenade launcher attachment (if the weapons are customizable) would be nice, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:38, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

==Trailer 2==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzue74y7A84

The only new weapon I see looks to be an M4 type at 1:15. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:05, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Aaaargh! Why won't videos stream for me? It's been like this for the past 3 days! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:34, 15 November 2012 (EST)

== Trailer #2 Screenshots ==

[[File:Gta5-1.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 platform rifle]]
[[File:Gta5-2.JPG|200px|thumb|none|The handguard is longer than M4-style one]]
[[File:Gta5-3.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 style rifle, looks a bit like a HK416 to me, also the guy on the right has the same, or very similar gun]]

The rifle on the 3rd screencap looks like a HK416 variant (handguard with these thin vents). Also the rifle in 1st and 2nd screenshot seems to be different than the one in the 3rd. It has a black magazine, in games a gun rarely can have a mag swapped out. :D --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:06, 15 November 2012 (EST)

PS sorry for the black bars guys :\ --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:08, 15 November 2012 (EST)

:I'm guessing it is the same rifle in all 3 caps. Also, in the first screencap you can see the distinctive forward assist/brass deflector that is used on VLTOR VIS and MUR upper receivers ([[Media:NovesDiplomat.jpg|here]] is a picture of a Noveske Diplomat with a VIS upper showing the forward assist). Although these uppers are used on Noveske rifles, I don't think this is one as the handguard is wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:22, 15 November 2012 (EST)

It looks like more an AAC Honey Badger (look at the stock and the bolt) than an HK416 or AR-15-like rifle for the 3rd picture. --[[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]])
:Several reasons why I don't think it is a Honey Badger: firstly, the stock on the Honey Badger extend on rails on the side of the receiver like an MP5, as opposed to this where it extends along the buffer tube in typical Colt Carbine fashion; secondly it appears that it has a VLTOR VIS/MUR upper receiver based on the design of the combined forward assist and brass deflector which the Honey Badger doesn't; lastly, even if you disagree that it is a VLTOR upper it definitely has a forward assist, which the Honey Badger does not just having a normal brass deflector. In what way do you think the bolt makes it a Honey Badger they are pretty much the same on a typical AR-15 and a Honey Badger aren't they? (with the exception of the FA serrations, but from these screenshots you cannot tell whether they are there or not.) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:30, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Very usefull thing i found ==

Hey guys i think this thread has everything about Weapons for GTA V, GTA Fans are really great at spotting things http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=532181&st=0
--[[User:Faizanali|Faizanali]] ([[User talk:Faizanali|talk]]) 03:38, 20 November 2012 (EST)
: As a member of GTA Forums, I can reliably say that anything you see there should be taken with the biggest dose of salt in history. Like, something from Big Bone Lick State Park. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 04:06, 20 November 2012 (EST)

== 1911 and Glock ==
A new artwork was revealed, and it has a 1911 and a glock variant. We should put on the main page?--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] ([[User talk:Flavio|talk]]) 15:16, 4 January 2013 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_PISTOLS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== New trailers ==

There's new guns found in the trailer of GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]) 18:06, 30 April 2013 (EST)
[[Image:ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is an AR-15 variant, the same as seen in the trailer 2.]]
[[Image:ar-15 variant 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closer view of the variant.]]
[[Image:assault rifle gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new assault rifle, I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. It seems this is a Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:type 56 gangster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type 56-2 in the hands of a gangster.]]
[[Image:type 56 trevor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor shoots his type 56-2.]]
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v new stock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new stock on Franklin's Mossberg 590 Cruiser.]]

I got some better images of the weapons that I'll be adding to the article. Here's a better shot of the unknown rifle; it looks kinda like a SCAR-H, but there's bits that aren't right.

Looks more like a weird FAL--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:41, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, here's a shot of the pistol used by Michael in the rappelling scene. I can't identify it, but it almost looks to have an orange tip like an airsoft gun and no hammer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:58, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[http://gyazo.com/ca7fae1d3d648ca8a2623bb5adb2bbbf.png?1367374112]] Not sure if it's a Hi-Power or 1911, on Michael's TV. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:11, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm also thinking some kind of short-barreled FAL for the new AR, judging by the magazine and shape of the mag well. It and the Tavor are certainly new and different choices considering GTA's past being dominated by the combo of an AK and M16 variants, which is a good thing. That's four assault rifles altogether now so far (five if the CQBR on concept art shown above is included in the game), so let's hope the other weapon categories have as diverse a selection. And considering how big the weapon selection in [[Red Dead Redemption|RDR]] was, I'm feeling pretty confident about it. Maybe my wish for a P226 could still come to pass after all? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:10, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a higher resolution cropped image of the mystery rifle.

[[File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg]]

It has the heat shield, gas block, and front sight of an M249, the magazine looks more like a belt bag, and the stock looks derived from the fixed stock of the Masada/ACR. The optic is an out-of-scale Elcan SpecterDR and it has a Magpul AFG2 foregrip. The receiver area lacks details, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's some kind of M249-based machine gun. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:15, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Now that you said that I start to see it, but my first bet was FAL, in the end it could just be a butchered MG, the stock doesn't somehow look m249ish to me and the heat shield seems tiny.--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 11:13, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

:After re-watching the trailer, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg light machine gun]. The ammo pouch gets a bit more obvious in motion and it's certainly an ammo pouch, not a 20 round 7.62 magazine. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 04:05, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

::I bet it turns out to be something ''really'' stoopid like an LSAT with a modified handguard. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:34, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

:::That horrified me for a moment, but I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that LSAT is tucked a bit further away then the pool of common firearms that appear in GTA. It will be some monstrosity of the natural order regardless. -[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

Seems to be a new pistol, but I can't ID it.[http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:52, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Could be a beretta. Weird pouch like a 50 rounder or something, but yeah now its definitely an butchered mg. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:35, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Underside of the trigger guard is straight, all Beretta models are rounded downward. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

DRD Tactical Paratus? [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 10:33, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

You mean the one to the left (its more likely an M4 would make sense for a game not centered around gun pron to have a generic well known firearm rather than some obscure one) if you mean the MG probably even more unlikely to me for now its seems like a franke-gun or at least a horribly scaled one. On a side note look at the one in the case the sight seems to be open http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/05/GTA-V-Heists.jpg and definetely a glock held by the guy in the picture little way above http://assets.vr-zone.net/19885/GTA_V_MFT.png -[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:00, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Spartan, gun models in video games can differ from their real life counterparts. It looks like a Beretta to me. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 18:47, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::Which gun are you talking about, the one pictured immediately above named "File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg"? If so you need to look at [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg this] image again, as it clearly shows that what looks like a mag from the side is actually a belt bag. Also you have the fact that the front sight and gas block are a match for a Minimi, and what can be seen of the receier in this grainy image is also pretty close. The only obvious differences are the furniture with the stock and handguard being different, and that the scaling is off. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:13, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
:::Commando, I was actually talking about this pistol: [http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 20:28, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Thats what I already said, since the game obviously has one in it, it's probably a beretta. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:59, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
:I know, I was agreeing with you because Spartan said that it couldn't be a Beretta with the squared trigger guard. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 09:57, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Sorry came of a bit rude , I meant to accentuate the fact that beretta is probably what everyone will think it is in the first place since it is confirmed to be in the game and beretta's have that distinct look of the slide,besides there's no reason to believe its some other gun since GTA's have tried to bring multiple weapons (AK's,AR's), instead of doing the COD thing and putting in several AR based ones, since they usually have a limited pool (like 3 in a category I believe) --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 13:09, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

*I was almost going to say it looked like a [[SIG SG 552|SIG552]], but the straight-edge magazine (rather than curved) says otherwise. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 02:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/GrandTheftAutoV/1280%20(1).jpg Looks like a 1911 or Hi-Power in Michael's hand. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:42, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

I can almost guaranty that the handgun above is another Beretta. If you look closely you can see the exposed barrel from the cutaway slide and you can barely make out the step in at the end of the barrel which a characteristic shared among all 92-series handguns.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 16:02, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

New pictures of guns in GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]

[[Image:ar-15 variant gta v 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A very close view of the AR-15 variant.]]
[[Image:GTAV_RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A RPG-7 based of the Airtronic RPG-7.]]
[[Image:gta v m134 without green camo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The handheld GE M134 without it's green finition.]]
[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
[[Image:gta v lmg (maybe M249).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the AR-15 variant, this time with a new LMG.]]
[[Image:franklin's beretta 92fs.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin's Beretta.]]
does anyone notice that Franklins Beretta has a Glock trigger guard? --[[User:Policerlhpd|Policerlhpd]] ([[User talk:Policerlhpd|talk]]) 03:57, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v night.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin at night with his Mossberg 590 Cruiser. I guess this is his favorite weapon.]]
[[Image:gta v ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the AR-15 variant. Last time I put it here.]]
[[Image:gta v mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the Mossberg.]]
:[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
:That's a camera. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 08:40, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yup camera 99% (since there is the same one in the SUV), seems that this game will sport gun customization at least color, the green Tavor,the green mini, and now the green shotty. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:26, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

I see a lot of influence from [[Heat]]. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 03:20, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah probably, but that is the trend in general with GTA's they put in references to movies and pop culture all the time. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:04, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

O yea, I know. This isn't my first GTA game by far. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

It's even right in the game, this time. According to an in-depth preview I watched on YouTube, Michael takes his ideas for heists directly from the game universe's versions of such movies. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:30, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

So is rockstar going to release the preview cause, all I have found right now is people talking for an hour about it .--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 04:50, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:They haven't released any public gameplay demos, no. At least none that I've seen yet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:20, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:As soon as they do, the media's going to be all over it. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 17:22, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a clearer picture of the pistol Franklin is holding in a previous screenshot.

[[File:Gtav pistol franklin.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Looks like some kind of cross between a Beretta and a Desert Eagle. It might be the "pistol .50" being offered as preorder DLC. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Seems like a different gun from the one in the above, I mean this probably is just a horrible DE, maybe work in progress, although GTA was never on top in weapons department. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:33, 14 June 2013 (EDT

http://www.gtav.net/screenshots/ - collection of official screenshots, might contain some weapons not already talked about. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

== Gameplay Video ==

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/09/first-grand-theft-auto-v-gameplay-video/

Go ahead and spot 'em. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:58, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

Dammit, Rockstar, take my money already! At 3:15, I can see an AW-type sniper rifle, a multi-shot grenade launcher (it looks similar to the hybrid grenade launcher in [[Resident Evil (2002 VG)|Resident Evil Remake]]), and a roll of dynamite in the weapon wheel. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:12, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png Got a screencap of Franklin with a tan M82A1M.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article on GTA V Gunplay ==
Found this article about the evolution of GTA V's gunplay on GTA Place. [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_v/b/xbox360/archive/2013/07/09/grand-theft-auto-v-gun-combat.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:39, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== New picture. ==

[[File:GTA5UNKNOWNPIST2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Bonshomme|Bonshomme]] 14:00, 10 July 2013 (CDT)

Is that seriously a rail on the side of the slide? [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 05:27, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

::Okay, I'm definitely not getting this game! Rockstar has always failed with the guns department (except in Max Payne 3), and that thing looks absolutely hideous. I'm done with the GTA series... Maybe when someone makes a skin mod for the guns, I'll get a copy... -.- --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 08:50, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Good. That leaves a copy for me. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::As if there will not be enough copies to go around, eh? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::While you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I always consider gun accuracy a +1 for me, incorrect weapon details isn't really much of a reason to not buy a game IMO (hell, I still got my copy of BO1). Again you are entitled to your opinion.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 11:06, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::: While I'm glad you won't be playing the game so as to avoid running into some joyless bother online, it seems to me more likely that the gun is a supposed to be some manner of TDI Kard, than whatever 1911/glock designed solely to offend your sensibilities you think it is. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::You have been playing too much Black Ops 2 if you think there is anything about that remotely resembling a Kard. It obviously has a conventional pistol layout with a slide, and the frame and general outline suggests a 1911. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:25, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Well, you know what they say: opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. I'm just sayin' you can't deny the fact that that... ''THING'' looks like a fugly frankengun, that should never see the light of day. I'm still hopin Rockstar has upped their gunplay from previous GTA titles, and made the gunplay (and the guns themselves) in this one a bit more realistic. You know, since they seem to be makin' this game another ground-breakin' masterpiece... Plus, I don't play with naive fanboys... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::If you would take the time to look at the trailer and use your words rather than skip to some nonsense about Black Ops 2, a game I haven't played not that it even matters, you might notice that Franklin uses the same pistol later in the trailer, his is fitted with an extended magazine and is seemingly firing on full auto, so, my suggestion that it's TDI Kard, I thought, might make a bit more sense than just losing your mind and writing off a whole title based on the appearance of a single handgun in the game. I can see how that might read as naivete though, I've had the wool pulled over my eyes and have been tricked into accepting a game in spite of the massive flaws it's exhibited in the design of one of it's firearms in a few seconds of footage and a screenshot or two, right?--[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 12:27, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::Yes. Btw, are you directing that comment to me or Commando552? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 16:45, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::At least some of it was directed at me so will address that part first. If your only evidance for it being a Kard is that it fires on full auto, then you should know that there are many other production pistols that are capable of full auto fire, not to mention the fact that it is possible to convert pistols to full automatic. Regardless of this, it is a game where they can give a gun whatever characteristics they choose so whether or not it is depicted as firing in full auto means nothing in real terms. Secondly, I have to say again it looks absolutely nothing like a Kard. If you can't see this then there is nothing that I can say to change your mind, but when I look at it I see absolutely nothing about the gun that suggests they based anything off of the Kard. If you put a gun to my head and made me take a guess at what it is meant to be I would probably say I highly customised (or very poorly modeled) full auto Glock, or maybe something like an Arsenal Strike One (which is available in FA/burst versions) but the shape is not really anything like one, it is just reminiscent of one if the "rail" on the front of the slide was actually the front slide serrations. In general can everyone chill out a bit about this game, we could do without the GTA talk pages degrading into a bitch fest like the COD ones historically have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:51, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I have to agree with Commando on the fact that it looks nothing like a Kard. Maybe a fuse of a badly-rendered Glock and a I9II... I also have to agree with Commando on the latter; regardless of my opinion on the possible depiction of guns/gunlay, there's no doubt that GTA V is going to be a great game (knowing Rockstar). Altough I still stand by my comment about not acquiring the game in the future, I realize that I shouldn't have been so outspoken about it, especially here, on the IMFDB. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 22:25, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
Well, look at MoH:WF, a game with accurate gun play but pretty mediocre everywhere else. Your opinion is yours, but what about Read Dead Redemption?[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:38, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Well don't get me wrong. I care about other elements besides gunplay such as gameplay and story. And as for RDR it was pretty accurate aside from a few minor mistakes.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 12:05, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::I agree with you, RDR was, and still is, pretty awesome. I still play it with my friends sometimes. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
Speaking of rails on the slide, it's been confirmed that we get weapon AND car customization to a pretty nice degree. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy the stories and the messages Rockstar provides in their games. But I've never been a fan of the GTA-gunplay. I'll be going for Saints Row IV this fall, instead of this. At least they don't even TRY to make the game realistic, so the gunplay is WAAAAY over the top. But that just makes it fun. PS. I enjoyed MOH:W... well, to a certain degree.--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Well, the gunplay that we've seen in the trailer (and confirmed in interviews) actually comes much more from Max Payne 3. You can run and gun without needing to aim and slow your movement, as well as switch between hard lock, soft lock, and full free aim in the options to suit your play style. You've still got the cover shooting and blindfiring, but you can actually be mobile in gunfights. There's also new options like being able to get in and out of a car while staying low to take cover behind it, as well as entering and exiting a car already shooting. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:33, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Has anyone considered that the pistol above could be a placeholder for something more real.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 15:40, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Its a possibility but given how we're two months away from release its unlikely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't think it is a placeholder, but I think there is a possibility that it is a bug where the wrong texture is on the model or it is using the low detail distance model or something, as there are several inconsistencies that make not sense. Firstly you have the fact that there is what appears to be a rail (which is scaled way too small) on the side of the slide. Then you have those weird horizontal black lines at the front of the slide and frame. Assuming that the black square at the back is meant to be the slide serrations, they span across both the slide and the top of the frame, which I have never seen on a real pistol. There are generally also lines all over the place on both the slide and frame which have no business being there on either a real gun, or a gun that is suggested by the silhouette of this. To top it off it also looks like it is ejecting rifle sized brass, but this is really the least of its problems. To me this gun looks ''so'' bad that it must be an error or something. It isn't just low detailed or simplified, or with random parts switched out for aesthetics, it actually appears deliberately FUBAR'd for no apparent reason. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:17, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I'm inclined to agree with Commando. All the guns on the page are designed relatively accurately except this one, which makes me think it's a texture bug. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:22, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

The Pistol is This ? Houge 1911 Avenger System - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:48, 6 August 2013 (JST)
[[File:1911 Avenger System.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hogue 1911 Avenger System]]

== AR 15 reloading ==

Did anyone notice in the new gameplay video that when Franklin pulls the charging handle of his AR15, a empty shell falls ?

Does that means that his gun jammed, or Rockstar Games made a shell fall each time the charging handle is pulled ? [[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 10 July 2013 (GMT)

:Probably the latter. And sign your posts by typing four tildes after them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:32, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

: It seems like they're doing the same thing as Metal Gear Solid 4, where Snake always racks the charging handle (ejecting an unfired round if it's a mid-mag reload) to chamber a fresh round after inserting the new magazine. This lets them stay realistically detailed while avoiding the +1 confusing that more casual players would have; keep it simple. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:23, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
::It really is kinda stupid and kinda lazy for animating a reload. Instead of programing someone doing nothing when you do a mid mag reload, they just left the reload animation program run, and I think the extra round coming out is really for the Hollywood effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:02, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
:: It's easier and less resource intensive to add a simple model of a cartridge flying out and use the same animation every time. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:01, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
Didn't he pull the charging handle a bit too far? [[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 16:20, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
::Looks pretty normal to me [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:06, 17 July 2013 (EDT)

Wouldn't also be more confortable to just hit the bolt release ? If doing a mid mag reload, nothing to do because a round is chambered, but it seems more natural to me to just hit the bolt release than racking the charging handle. [[User:Zebracherub|Zbracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 06:05, 28 July 2013 (GMT)

:It would, but this is GTA, where any random joe can hop in and know how to pilot a fighter plane or kill hundreds of people at a time without Homeland Security (or NOOSE, as they're called in-game) locking the city down like Guantanamo Bay NS, so it's not that big a deal IMO. Besides, I'd say this is just Rockstar showing off and proving they're still the pimps of the gaming industry. Aaargh! Why won't September 17th get here sooner?! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:08, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Theres lots of screen shots on the official site, some with weapons (an MP5 being fired by a SWAT member from an SUV). As for the flying part I thought they confirmed only Trevor is good at flying, it is possible there are missions the others learn to do that, SA had them, and we don't really know Niko didn't have any background in flying, Vercetti had little background at all and he was pretty old. As for the killing part most games have that I mean look at shooters even if we ignore the regeneration its quite improbable that one men can take out 20 in open shootout. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:32, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

:Nope, all three characters can operate any vehicle in the game, each one is just going to be better in one area than the others. This was confirmed by Rockstar in a Q&A posted on TGTAP forums. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

== CTAR-21 ==

I only noticed after editing the G11 to a CTAR-21, but does nayone know if this is meant to be the same gun just in different builds?
[[File:GTAVPossibleAUG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:GTAV TAR-21.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
From the fact that it is someone using the gun firing from a helicopter, at another helicopter, I would assume that this is the same piece of gameplay just with altered models. The confusing thing though is that the picture with the better correctly looking CTAR-21 is from November last year, as opposed to the crappy modded for no reason Tavor which is from a recent gameplay trailer. This would suggest that either the recent gameplay trailers used a '''very''' out of date build, or they deliberately messed with the weapons to make them less correct at some point during development, I would guess for legal reasons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:05, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
: It's fully possible that they altered the models to make them look different purely because they liked it better that way. They're making entertainment that looks good, not real-life gun porn. Aesthetic considerations are important. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:43, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
This is from the multiplayer trailer. It's definitely not in the TAR-21 family.
[[File:Gta5 online 32.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

A new screenshot was released showing a closer shot of the Tavor and it seems to have a P90-style fore-end.

[[File:GTA5-Tavor-Helicopter.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:06, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

== New Pictures ==

Two new photos have been released of a sniper rifle and that AP Pistol. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtav10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:gtav11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, I need to work at getting some caps from the new multiplayer trailer. But the apparent CTAR-21 (known in-game as the Advanced Rifle) actually doesn't really look like said gun in the final game except in the barest sense.

== New SMG ==

Thanks to iNero from GTA Forums for the picture. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:40, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtasmg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks like an oversized MP5A3.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 18:16, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
:: Highly doubt that. The only part of the shape that really matches an MP5A3 is the stock, and it has a short, straight magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Well as for the short mag, Rockstar said that weapon customization is going to be featured. So maybe the 10 round (civilian legal?) magazines is going to be an option. Also straight MP5 mags do exist. [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:47, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Straight MP5 magazines are older ones, and that doesn't match the pattern. The magwell is also too large for the magazine and it's sticking out at an awkward angle. And again, there's absolutely nothing that actually resembles an MP5 except for maybe the stock. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Looking at the SMGs currently documented on the site, I think it now looks similar to a [[FAMAE SAF]]
[[Image:SAF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAE SAF - 9x19mm]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:33, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Who labeled it a CZ Scorpion EVO 3? Looks a little like in the lower receiver/trigger guard area, but the rest is more MP5/SAF.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:23, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

:It looks like an MP5 with a sort of super-short G3 handguard. There's a closeup of it on one of the loading screens. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:00, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== M82? ==

Is it just me, or does the rifle in the first picture of the "Unknown Sniper Rifle" section (the one Franklin is holding on the roof) look a lot like an M82 variant? it has the muzzle brake and what we see of the body has the general shape. I don't have the pic now, but a recently released photo shows the sniper rifle on the weapon wheel photo and it's NOT the same gun. It actually looks closer to an Accuracy International rifle. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 03:39, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

It's a Barrett all right, check this screencap.
http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png
[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:38, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

== GTA Online Rifle ==
Found this over on Grand Theft Wiki.

[[File:GTAOnlineRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

They have it identified as a SCAR-L, but it's hard to make out. General shape is right for a SCAR, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:58, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== MK18 artwork ==
I separated it from the LR300 section since they clearly aren't the same weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:55, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

==Smith and Wesson M&P or Springfield XD? Can't identify.==
A person on another forum posted this pic of Michael holding a nickle plated handgun but the view is only from the top. I don't think it's a Glock because of the way the ejection port looks but I might be wrong. I can't see an exposed hammer. Any help?

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/fullsize/344.jpg

It could be a colored "AP Pistol". Paint jobs are among the weapon customization options. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:39, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: I don't think so. The side rails on the slide are so thick that they would be visible in this image. On GTA Forums there are suggestions that it's a S&W semi-auto. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 07:59, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
::The side rails on the AP pistol are just on the texture and not on the model aren't they? With a new skin the AP pistol could look totally different. Either way there isn't enough to go on from that shot to determine what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:17, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
:: It's difficult to tell. One other thing that makes me less convinced that it's the AP Pistol is that this gun has noticeable sights (The AP Pistol distinctly lacks them in all screenshots), and it seems to have a shorter barrel. It's almost definitely a separate gun, unless the customization options are more in-depth than we thought. Another suggestion might be a Taurus 24/7 or similar, as that gun is striker-fired, definitely comes in that finish, and has a similar sight profile from the top. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Side thought - is the AR that Franklin is holding missing the end of the buttstock or is that texture clipping? --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 15:10, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: Pretty sure that's just clipping. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

== Game Guide leak ==

Pics of the official game guide are turning up online.
http://imgur.com/a/ov4Rc#ZQjg5L3
http://imgur.com/a/vnbVM

No pics of the SMG or LMG sections yet. If you search for GTA V ammunation on youtube you'll find offscreen footage of a guy walking around the gun shop. You can see some sort of RPK clone on the wall.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:53, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
: No RPK, but the early game machine gun (the "MG") is pretty much just a PKM. Virtually all of the weapons in the game are already on the page. There's also an Assault Shotgun (which some say looks like a UTS 15 with a box magazine to resemble an AA-12), a sawed-off pump-action that may also be based on a Mossberg 500/590, the Combat Pistol (silver pistol held by Michael in the recently released trio pic, which reminds me of a Taurus PT 24/7 or Ruger P-series like the P97 with a stainless slide), and a Taser. The "unknown pistol" in the article is the PT92, which is apparently chambered in .45 ACP with a standard 12 round magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 00:05, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

== New SMG ==
This is an exclusive unlock for joining the Rockstar social club.

[[File:SC SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Not sure what it is myself. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:31, 13 September 2013 (EDT)

As far as I can see, it's 100% fictional. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 05:06, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yeah, seems so. And ugly as hell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:08, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:I see a birdcage flash hider, and the rest looks like the Halo 2/3 Battle Rifle. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 00:11, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

::Now that you mentioned that, I looked up what Halo battle rifle looks like, and I think this submachine gun might have also borrowed some design decisions from Halo's submachine gun. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:It also has a resemblance to the RCP-120 from Perfect Dark. [[User:RadiumMetal|RadiumMetal]] ([[User talk:RadiumMetal|talk]]) 17:21, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

== Barrett M-107 A1? ==

[[File:GTA5SNIPER1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

The muzzle brake and the right side of the gun, and also the color is very similar to the M-107 A1 than the AS50, is it real?

Check out the Gyazo link in my posts above. If you pause at the right moment, the rifle is a Barrett with a raised full length rail.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:36, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

== Combat Pistol ==

After unlocking the Combat Pistol in the game and using it quite a bit I'm thinking that it resembles some sort of HK pistol. Initially I thought it was like a USP Compact but I've thought it might be more like a HK45 or HK45c. I'm not sure though as at first I thought it was a Px4. Anyone else have any ideas what it could be? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 10:39, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
:The [http://gta.wikia.com/Weapons_in_GTA_V GTA Wiki] lists the combat pistol as the Taurus (well, they say Beretta but we know what they mean), or is that not the case in the final game? Also, that page has a picture of the assault shotgun, which appears to be an [[UTAS UTS-15]] which has been slightly messed with and had a box mag stuck on the bottom. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::The basic pistol is the Taurus not the combat pistol. They list the basic pistol as a P99 so it could be that the combat pistol is a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:53, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::I concur, the Combat Pistol definitely looks like a P99 to me. Glad they didn't rehash the 1911 or Glock again for the umpteenth time (not that I don't love 1911s and Glocks, I very much do ;D ). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Having got a decent look at it today I don't think it's a P99. It's got an exposed hammer and the general shape it more like a Beretta Px4 having taken a much closer look at it. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 18:45, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm only going by a tiny thumbnail (don't have the game) but it looks a bit like a [[CZ-G2000]] with a less sever angles around the trigger. This is pretty similar to the PX4, but I think it is a closer match as it has a square trigger guard and doesn't have an ambi safety (thumbnail I've seen is of the right side which lacks a safety). The profiling of the slide is also closer and the serrations look the same design (although there is one less band at both the front and back). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:37, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'd rather say a Px4 at this point. I've seen it up close (I DO have the game) and it looks a lot more like it was based on the Px4. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:06, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::I'm going to say having spend about half an hour moving the camera around trying to get really close shots of it that it is a Px4 more than anything else. The slide profile matches, the frame matches, the back of it matches. The only thing that doesn't match is the width of the slide serrations but that could just be a texture choice. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 12:53, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to venture a guess and say it's a combo of a Px4 and a P99, with the Px4 traits shining out the most. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:05, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know who it was who put the combat pistol as the H&K P2000 but it looks nothing like that. If it looks like any H&K pistol it's either the HK45c or the P30. I'm still leaning towards the Beretta Px4 though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 08:30, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

Picked up the guide yesterday evening while I was out and the "Combat Pistol" shown in it matches the general shape of the P2000, actually. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:20, 29 September 2013 (EDT)
:No one else sees a bit of the PT-909 in it?
[[File:Tau.jpg|thumb|none|800px]]
Remember no gun will be an exact match. They're all tweaked.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 18:10, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/4758e01a97e67d85191a02b267d98a60.png
The trigger guard and rail look P2000, but the rest resembles the Px4 to me.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:13, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

== Combat MG ==
It's not a Stoner, but rather an M60/M249 hybrid. Basically the stock of an M60, while everything in front of is is M249. Making appropriate changes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

== Guns on the TV programs ==

Killed a bit of time as Michael and watched the TV at his house. One of the channels was a FIB program called 'The Underbelly of Paradise'. One of the highlights was a few weapons on a table and one of the guns was a SIG P220-series pistol. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 21:57, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

There's also a brief shot of an M1911A1 cycling on an old-style crime show/movie and if you watch Jimmy playing ''Righteous Slaughter'' (a CoD/MoH/BF parody) in his room, the game character uses an XCR and a stainless steel Desert Eagle wielded tandem with a knife in the Harris stance. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

And the preview for the in-game movie ''The Simian'', which I saw while hanging out with Jimmy at a movie theater, has several shots of Hunter attack helicopters and at least one clear shot of the M230 chain gun on one of them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:25, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

== What's up with the Carbine Rifle changes? ==

Uhhh... Guys? The new Carbine really looks like the LR-300 and I thought it was agreed on. I don't know why we needed the change. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 20:03, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't the one who changed it, but I 100% agree with the change. First off, it isn't an LR-300 as the overriding unique feature about the LR-300 is that it doesn't have a buffer tube. This gun has a buffer tube. That is before we even get into the fact that the game gun has different furniture and a VLTOR MUR receiver rather than the unique LR-300 one. As with most of the weapons in the game this appears to be a hybrid gun at best, so it can't really be given a proper ID other than a custom AR-15. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:12, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:The assault rifle looks like a Hecker & Koch HK416 to me. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 8:43 AM (EST)
::It isn't, as far as I can tell there is not a single part on this that matches the HK416: the upper has the brass deflector built into the front of the forward assist like on a VLTOR MUR; the magazine fence on an HK416 is rounded whereas on this it is flat making it look more like one of the many different billet lowers that are available from various manufacturers; the stock is an ACE stocj which appears to be incorrectly depicted as extendable; the handguard is possibly a Daniel Defence MFR, but if not is definitely isn't a piston HK416 one. None of these parts are really perfect matches, but seeing the quality of the models on the other guns this isn't really to be expected. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:36, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Hmm...after looking through the M16 gallery, and the Colt AR-15 identification guide, and doing some googling, It seems like it COULD POSSIBLY be a hybrid of a Daniel Defense MFR and ZM LR-300, while trying to look like a HK416 (beefy handguard and short barrel), I can't shake it, to me it screams Franken-HK416, don't know why. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 1:02 PM (EST)
::::Look at the forwards assist and brass deflector area of this gun:[[File:GTAV_AR15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Note how the forward assist is a large flat faced wedge with the plunger coming out the bottom half of it, with a brass deflector attached at the top front corner. Now compare that to the below image:[[File:NovesDiplomat.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Noveske Rifleworks N4 Diplomat with VLTOR Modstock, EOTech sight and Surefire M900 weapon-light fore-grip - 5.56x45mm]]Notice they are a match. This is a unique thing that is only found on VLTOR MUR and VIS upper receivers (one pictured above is a VIS, MUR is the version without a monolithic handguard) and is due to the forward assist being able to be removed and replaced with a blanking plate fitted only with a brass deflector. Both the HK416 and the Z-M variants used different upper receiver designs to this, so it isn't either of them. I doubt that this is any factory gun in particular, it could be that the modellers just picked and chose various parts and stuck them together to make a gun they liked the look of, or it could be modelled off of a real custom gun that somebody has made. I don't get why people seem to think this is a HK416 (not just you, have seen people all over the place call it that) if the only thing they are going on is the fact it has a short barrel and a chunky handguard, there are a hell of a lot of guns that fit this description and are a closer match than an HK416, like this [[Media:POF P-416-11.JPG|Patriot Ordnance Factory P416]] for example. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:All the guns are hybrids, and the game's artists won't be familiar with the internals so I would go with the gun that is most similar in look, even if the similarities are all on the cosmetic parts and the dissimilarities affect the internals. Also the Combat SMG is an MP5 hybrid, not a Scorpion.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:15, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== pics of all guns except special edition weapons ==

I went and got the game guide. Here are pics of all the guns.

http://s13.postimg.org/5humxnsfr/gta_Weap.png

[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 15:23, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== ANALYSIS: Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 (Airsoft) ==

I've identified the firearm "Carbine Rifle", I analyzed it done here

[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-001.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]
[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-002.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]

Ace skeleton stock:

[[Image:Ace Stock Medium1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ace skeleton Stock]]

Reference: http://jagprecision.com/daniel-defense-m4-mfr-series-from-socom-gear/

PaulD21x (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2013 (VE)

Nailed it, nice.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:58, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:Not really, look a couple of sections above. The handguard is a Daniel Defence MUR (or at least a close approximation of one), but the upper receiver appears to be a VLTOR and the lower is not a DD one. Also you have the fact that the stock appears to be an Ace ARFX-E "Entry" stock which is the short one but this is fixed and not retractable, whereas this is extended out on the buffer tube like a regular AR-15 carbine style stock (I assume this is more due to ignorance rather than it being based on something else). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:43, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:I think it is a customized gun with a Daniel Defense MFR handguard, VLTOR MUR upper, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, the lower looks to be a NorthTech Billet receiver (with de fix trigger guard), the front BUIS is like a Troy Front sight and the rear a A2 type but simplified (or an unknow model), Hogue pistol grip (or any other model) and the ACE stock (but we can see they are nothing to move it because it is a fix stock and not a telescopic, an error). But it is not a basic model for me. --[[User:ArmaLite15|armalite15]] ([[User talk:Armalite15|talk]])

== "Combat Pistol" ==

Me again, noting that you guys missed a pistol.

Of course, this pistol is simply called the "Combat Pistol" and resembles the Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in a way. I have no way of getting screens and I haven't seen any so far. I haven't progressed far enough into the game to unlock it, but it can be viewed at the Ammunation stores if anyone had the game and wants to look. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:12, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
:No, we haven't missed it. Read a couple discussions above, we're still trying to come to a consensus on what it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:51, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

Ah, I see sorry. I missed that discussion. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:03, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

== Phone shots ==

So I hear you could take snaps using the in-game smart phone. Would it be possible to get some screenshots that way? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:37, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure, you have to sign up to Rockstar Social Network to do it, and I ''bet'' it watermarks them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:45, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
::Actually there is no watermark, but these pictures are only 640x360, and have a filter added that makes them look like low quality analog picture.--[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 15:34, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't think you can take phone pictures while armed, although you might get some from cops or security guards with guns, and take photos in the Ammu-Nation.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 21:30, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== In case you're wondering... ==

Cleetus' second hunting mission is bugged (hopefully forever) and when he tells you to hunt the last Elk it lets you wander the entire map with no possibility of triggering a police alert, meaning you can wander around in the military base to your hearts' content. You can keep anything you take by just causing an explosion (''anywhere'' on the map, but the jet's missiles don't count) which will spook the elk and let you quit out of the mission. I can't find anywhere to store the tank that Trevor can own, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:49, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm gonna have to exploit that. I've tried constantly to get a Titan, but I can never get it off the ground before a tank blows me up. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:54, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== Can we just settle on the "Carbine Rifle" by describing the components that it's constructed from? ==
It's obvious that it's not any named product (like the DDM4 it's currently IDed as but clearly is not), so can we just call it a custom AR-15 (like we do other franken ARs), ID it by its individual components, then be done with it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:30, 3 November 2013 (EST)

Moving these here for now, since I've changed the Carbine Rifle entry to reflect that it is ''not'' a DDM4.
[[File:DDM4sbr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DDM4 300 SBR with Magpul MOE stock, Magpul PMAG magazine, and KAC vertical foregrip - 300 BLK]]
[[Image:AF02-F-OT-ARFXE-ARULE-5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ace Skeleton Stock]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:53, 19 November 2013 (EST)

== Beach Bum pistol ==

A new handgun will be added in the next update/free DLC, called the "SNS"

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/xbox360/gta5/screens/gta5_269_605x.jpg

Probably a movie reference, perhaps it's a Walther PP of some form.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2013 (EST)

Beach Bum pack is out, the SNS pistol looks like a Heckler & Koch P7 M13 fitted with wood grips and a round trigger guard.[[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 20:01, 19 November 2013 (GMT)

== Gun pic on Social Club ==

Close view of the most used gun can be seen in the Social Club.

[[File:SocialClubAR15.jpg]]

This is a Northtech Billet lower, VLTOR Upper, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip but the upper is strange, it is raised up like the HK-416. And the handguard is very close to the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0..[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 19:43, 17 November 2013

== "Carbine Rifle" mounting an image ==

Since I edited the image from Photoshop, is a mixture: that's to HK-416 - Northtech Billet lower, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, Ace Skeleton Stock And the handguard is the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0
[[File:GTAVCARBINERIFLEMIXTURE.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 21:23, 21 November 2013

Is that a Pimpmygun pistol grip? [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:06, 21 November 2013 (EST)

No, I'm pretty sure he just Shopped in the grip from the Social Club image above. Also, if you wanted to create a composite, you could have just done an image search for the actual lower receiver used (I found plenty on Bing), because as has been previously stated, '''not a single component on this gun corresponds to the HK416'''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:39, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:There is possibly part of an HK416 potentially in there, as in the social club image you can see that the shape of the top rail at the rear steps down ahead of the charging handle like an HK416, which is not the case with a VLTOR MUR which the rest of the receiver is. This composite photoshop just uses a vanilla HK416 upper though which is not correct for the game gun. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:15, 22 November 2013 (EST)

It's all moot now, because I've solved the image problem. Found this during a Bing search for "gta v carbine rifle".

[[File:GTA5-Carbine-Rifle-Example.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The in-game "Carbine Rifle" - 5.56x45mm]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:On seeing that, it looks like it has an HK416 gas block as well. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 22 November 2013 (EST)

I think the rifle may just have an HK416 upper receiver, Daniel Defense has started to make rails for it in the same style as the MFR and it fits on any standard AR lower, so that simplifies the whole description of it being a mishmash of parts. [[User:Recon42|Recon42]] ([[User talk:Recon42|talk]]) 14:11, 7 June 2014 (EDT)

== Combat MG ID and non-player weapons ==
This is a response to Ultimate94 recently changing the MK46 Mod 0 ID back to Mod 1. The Mod 1 lacks a 12 o'clock Picatinny, using the M249 heat shield instead. This was done, AFAIK, to facilitate the re-inclusion of the carry handle. The Combat MG has a Picatinny rail in this position (albeit a low profile one), which would therefor make it a Mod 0. The weapon render linked to on the GTA Wiki is far too small to discern any details from, so doesn't prove anything.

Why were the non-player weapons added back to the main categories? Every other GTA game on IMFDb is formatted with non-player weapons in a separate "Other" category. What's the objection to this page being the same?

The artwork of Michael holding the MK18 doesn't appear in the game as a loading screen (unlike the Type 56 artwork), so it should be deleted from the page. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:42, 30 December 2013 (EST)

:It's been five months now and no one has responded, so I'm moving the non-player weapons to their own category and marking the MK18 artwork for deletion. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:49, 15 May 2014 (EDT)

== Valentines Day M1928 Thompson ==
So there's going to be a free Chicago Typewriter coming up.
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/news/article/52186/Coming-this-Friday-The-GTA-Online-Valentine-s-Day-Massacr[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:23, 11 February 2014 (EST)

It's classed as an LMG in-game, with superior stats compared to the PKM (except for mag capacity), making it a good choice for anyone who hasn't unlocked the PKM, or someone who can live without the extra ammo capacity or aim-down-sight zoom (Tommy Gun doesn't get an optic) until they unlock the M249/M60 hybrid --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (EST)

You can acquire a PKM in a few places right at the start of the game if you know where to look, though. Inside the gate at the Vagos' compound in East LS, for example (as long as you aren't wearing Families colors, you'll have plenty of time to get in and out before their threats turn into gunfire... usually). You just can't buy any mods for it yet. Quite a few weapons are ripe for the picking if you know where to look, actually. Type 56, MP5, MGL, AW, Minigun (''extremely'' hard to get as it's inside Fort Zancudo, though), Super Shorty, RPG, Assault Shotgun (another hard one to get, as it's pretty deep inside the Altruists' mountain compound), grenades, Jerry can, and Molotov cocktails. The Mossberg Cruiser can be acquired quite easily from police as long as you escape your wanted level quick, or if you happen upon a chase and follow until it erupts into a shootout (the criminals usually win LOL). A Carbine Rifle can also be effortlessly acquired from an isolated Merryweather mercenary at their LS Port "turf" if one is careful (I wouldn't advise trying to get one from the LSPD officers lingering around LS International, though). I like having the Thompson in the game, don't get me wrong, but it's largely a gimmick weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 05:44, 8 March 2014 (EST)

== Removing images ==

I'm in favor of keeping the PKM image on the page, but only because this page is currently incomplete and it's the only screenshot available. I expect a better image will be available when more screencaps are available and the page is completed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:49, 25 February 2014 (EST)

== Cut weapons ==

So I just found this, worthy of mention in the discussion page at least:
http://gtaforums.com/topic/678397-the-gta-v-beta-hunt/page-6

In addition to several melee weapons, there are some icons for the XM25, a DMR variant of the AR-15 (seems to be referred to as M14), a HK21, and a SCAR-H.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:44, 26 February 2014 (EST)

A poster there states they weren't cut, but rather just aren't enabled for player use. So maybe Rockstar is holding them back as future DLC? I'd love to have that AR-15 sniper rifle (which resembles an M110A1, which, AFAIK, is an M110 with the fixed stock replaced with a collapsible one). I always felt the next upgrade from the bolt action should have been a semi-auto .308, with the Barrett placed in the slot with the MGL, RPG, and Minigun, and made to do more damage to vehicles. The stock on the SCAR's in-game render looks like it was taken from the LSAT machine gun, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:29, 26 February 2014 (EST)

== New upcoming DLC ==
The "Heavy Pistol" and "Special Carbine" will be released next week.
[[File:GTAV-HeavyPistol-SpecialCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
The carbine is clearly a G36K, but the pistol seems to be a 1911 of some kind. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:23, 27 February 2014 (EST)

From looking at the gun itself and at the Social Club page, I think the pistol looks a lot more like a 1911 than an FNX-45, or maybe some sort of Kimber-esque thing. The grip and grip panels look far more 1911 than FN. Cheers, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
*EDIT: here's a link that shows the Social Club image, and shows how it more resembles either a regular 1911 or some sort of Kimber-style tactical model: http://gta.wikia.com/Heavy_Pistol [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

It most resembles a [[Springfield_Armory_1911_Series#Springfield_Armory_Tactical_Response_Pistol_.28TRP.29|Springfield TRP Operator]] with the slide derived from the OTs-33 to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:44, 4 March 2014 (EST)

definitely looks like a Springfield TRP operator with mabye some cz97 http://www.lipseys.net/images/CZ01411.jpg?maxwidth=520--[[User:Anarchy66660|Anarchy66660]] ([[User talk:Anarchy66660|talk]]) 22:03, 4 March 2014 (EST)

That's definitely a TRP Operator frame, the new pistol doesn't resemble an FNP very much. The slide looks like a flatter version of a normal 1911.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:43, 4 March 2014 (EST)

== Heavy Pistol ==

Could the heavy pistol be an Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911?
[[File:Steel_Full_Rail_Gun_5.jpg|thumb|none|350px|]]
The slide is very flat like the heavy pistol, they both have the full dust cover rail, wide rear cocking serrations, and lack of front cocking. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2014 (EST)

I think you got it, looks dead on to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:01, 8 March 2014 (EST)
:It is pretty close, but I think that is just coincidence. There are a number of differences that suggest it is not based on this gun such as the fibre optic sights, different numbers of slide serrations, lack of a beavertail (or in fact a grip safety at all by the look of it), a seemingly changeable curved backstrap, slanted rather than vertical trigger guard front, different grips, and most definitively the fact that it has a single rather than double stack frame. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:29, 8 March 2014 (EST)
::None of the guns in the game are exactly modeled after anything. The Taurus has a different number of slide serrations, a different hammer, etc. Hell, look at the "Desert Eagle." The Heavy Pistol is at least a lot closer to this gun, than the Operator. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:12, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
:::To me it seems much more likely that the guy who made it simply messed around with a standard 1911 rather than modelling it after a relatively obscure custom gun though. To be honest a lot of the gun IDs on this page are pretty far fetched, in particular the so-called "OTs-33 Pernach" which looks absolutely nothing like one (to me this gun actually looks like it is the bottom half of a 2nd series [[Colt Woodsman]] with some tactical crap slapped on the top). Weapons which appear to be fictional but bear a vague (possibly coincidental) resemblance to something real should not be definitely listed as this (such as saying that "The Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911, released with the "Business Update" DLC, appears as the Heavy Pistol." which is not really the case). For most of these guns the proper thing to do would be to have the heading for the section be, for example, "Heavy Pistol" and state underneath that it is a 1911 type pistol bearing some similarities to the Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911 but with several notably differences. Similarly for the "Special Carbine", not a single part of that is actually taken from a real Heckler & Koch G36C, it is just a random collection of different parts (some of them real, like the [http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-pistol-grips/id-1/m16-m4-ar15-tactical-ergonomic-pistol-grip.html FAB Defense AG-43 AR-15 pistol grip]) which have been assembled into the vague shape of a G36C--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:17, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
::::I think the SpeCarbine has G36K resemblence in the upper receiver/ handguard and top rail, just a lot more flat than the real thing. The AP pistol definitely has a Woodsman grip, the slide was probably incorrectly based on a Kriss KARD. The frame of the SNS pistol resembles the HK P7M10, too.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:23, 2 April 2014 (EDT)

== Bullpup Rifle ==
It looks like it has a 7.62x39mm AK magazine, so shouldn't it go in the rifles category despite it being classified as an SMG in-game? Same goes for the "Assault SMG", which clearly has a 20-round AR-15 mag. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:18, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think it was put in the SMG category by accident, "Bullpup Rifle" clearly indicates it is going to be classified as an assault rifle. Looks like a hybrid of the QBZ-95 and it's B carbine.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:48, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think that it's a shame that it's a QBZ at all and not the L85 it looked like in one piece of concept art (below) [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
[[File:Gtao-hl-bpr.jpeg]]

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/fa03-right.jpg

I think it's a FA 03 (LAPA FA-03).

[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 15:18, 23 June 2014 (EDT)

It was probably meant to be an amalgamation, as most of these guns are, as the magazine, handguard, barrel length and rear sight were clearly L85, whereas the front sight and carry handle were FA 03. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]]) 09:28, 18 August 2014 (EDT)

== AP Pistol ==

I just saw this on Modern Firearms. http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/scamp-e.html Does anyone else think the AP Pistol looks more like the Colt SCAMP than the OTs-33 Pernach? [[User:Rockinthecasbah|Rockinthecasbah]] ([[User talk:Rockinthecasbah|talk]]) 18:35, 10 April 2014 (EDT)

Can't see any resemblance myself, not that it looks like a Pernach either, but it really, really doesn't look like the SCAMP [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

There are a few similarities in shape and layout to the SCAMP. The squared slide/frame, the ejection port, the central alignment of the barrel. It's not perfect, but all the guns in this game have had creative licenses taken by the designers. There are no specific similarities between the AP Pistol and the OTs-33. [[User:Rockinthecasbah|Rockinthecasbah]] ([[User talk:Rockinthecasbah|talk]]) 16:37, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
:Rather than rolling back edits without explanation, work it out here. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 23:51, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
::The page is locked again, for one week this time. Like I said, work it out here. Present your arguments and your evidence. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 02:10, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Another week and no discussion. Very well. If this edit warring continues, bans will be issued. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 02:44, 3 June 2014 (EDT)
== Love all the vehicles and weapons as free DLC, I really do, but... ==
It would be nice if we got something other than just pistols and assault rifles. There's already more of those than any other weapon type. I wish they'd add some of the cut weapons detailed a few sections up (M110-style sniper rifle, XM25-style grenade launcher, etc.) in addition to new stuff. Would love an MP7A1 and a Carl Gustav rocket launcher, for example. Maybe add some new weapon attachments like laser sights and different optics. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:06, 13 May 2014 (EDT)

== New weapons leaked? ==

Hey I found this surfing web: http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/leaked-future-dlc-weapons.1141769/
There is a picture showing some icons for weapons that already have been added and some that we will probably see in future. 

http://i.imgur.com/S5amZ8I.png - icons 

http://i.imgur.com/F8T96mT.png - textures for weapons

New weapons include: HK21 MG, SCAR-H, pistol and a knife --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 02:22, 29 May 2014 (EDT)

:See my post on the cut weapons above, although it's entirely possible the HK21 and SCAR are being re-added from cut content. The pistol looks new, too. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 09:34, 29 May 2014 (EDT)

== Snipers rifles ==

Some changes should be made to the sniper rifles on the page, (The page is now indefinitely protected due to edit warring in which I was involved, but I won't change that edit again. Can someone of the admins remove the protection?) The bolt-action sniper rifle in-game is an AWM, not a standard AW, since the weapon model shows a folding stock (although in this case the 10-round mag would be incorrect). As for the "Heavy Sniper", I think that it's an M82, since the weapon's appearance in-game doesn't seem to match the rail system seen on the M107. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 08:30, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
:I've unlocked it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:48, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
::As with the vast majority of the guns on this page, it is not a perfect match for any particular AI rifle. However, I would say that it is more accurate to call it a standard AW as opposed to an AWM. If you look at the ejection port it appears to be the shorter one which is on the AW as the recess in the stock beneath is notably larger, as opposed to on the AWM where the port is almost the same size as the recess. Also, just because it has a folding stock does not make it an AWM, they make AWs with folding stocks such as [[Media:Arctic Warfare Folding Stock.jpg|this]], just like they make AWM with fixed stocks like [[Media:AWSM fixed.jpg|this]]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:30, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
:::Mmm... I understand. And what about the Barrett? (And a question: is it ''always'' the case for an AW to have a 10-rd mag and for an AWM to have a 5-rd one? Or can these capacities vary?) --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 04:36, 8 June 2014 (EDT)
:::Isn't it more accurate to put the Barrett M82 instead of the M107? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 14:42, 10 June 2014 (EDT)
::::Not really, as the main difference between the two is the sight rail and the rail used on this matched neither (M82A1 is short raised, M107 is long low). The other difference would be the rear grip on the butt, but as this model is horrifically inaccurate and omits this whole area that doesn't really help. You could say that it is slightly closer to an M82A1 (not M82, that it is the original version which is noticeably different) as the riser for the rail is slotted, but you could also argue that it is closer to an M82A3 as it has a raised rail stopping a couple of inches short of the front of the handguard. I would either just identify it as a "Barrett M82 Series" rifle or (more preferably in my opinion) just call it the "Heavy Sniper" and say that it is based on an M82 series rifle with a number of differences (presence of a cheek rest, lack of a grip on the butt, wrong magazine which looks more like a giant M14 one, different scope rail, odd handguard that looks like it can accept side rails like some AR-15 handguards/monolithic uppers, different muzzle brake, unfluted barrel, etc.). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:18, 10 June 2014 (EDT)

== Carbine Rifle 2.0 ==
[[File:Tokyo Marui M4 S-System.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Tokyo Marui M4 S-System]]
It's kinda obvious that the carbine rifle is not based on a specific variant, but here's something resembling it (although the length of the forearm & barrel are obviously different). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 17:38, 5 July 2014 (EDT)

:They're both AR-15 based, but beyond that, the TM S-System bares no resemblance at all to the Carbine Rifle. Handguard is wrong, sights are wrong, barrel length and flash hider are wrong, and receiver components are wrong. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:53, 6 July 2014 (EDT)

== Piece of advice ==
If you've bought the Collector's or Special Edition of this game and Rockstar Support suggests you uninstall and reinstall the patches/DLC in response to any problems you're having, '''don't do it'''. I did this after the monster truck, motorcycle, and firework launcher from the Independence Day DLC disappeared from my game and now all my Special Edition bonuses (Desert Eagle, KSG, blimp, and extra weapon tints) are gone and (so far) unrecoverable. :( They gave me $500K GTA bucks for use in GTA Online as compensation (which I'm happy with), but I'm still saddened by the loss of my SE stuff. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:05, 9 July 2014 (EDT)

== These guns ==

I can give some leeway to games set in the near future (Black Ops II, Advanced Warfare, Titanfall, Ghost Recon Future Soldier, Homefront, etc.), but these guns look so hideous looking. How can you botch these up so badly? I can understand if Rockstar was trying to make "generic" guns, but they did a good job with GTA IV, RDR, and Max Payne 3, and suddenly they make guns that look like generic rip-offs. - [[User:1morey]] August 14, 2014 7:21 PM (EST)

Gotta agree. I expected better from R*. At least there are still reconizable ones such as the RPG-7 and the Type 56-2.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 19:36, 14 August 2014 (EDT)

:I think it's supposed to be the same approach that they take with cars, really. I appreciate the customization and more detailed reloads though.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:26, 14 August 2014 (EDT)

Battlefield 4

2014-08-12T15:12:22Z

Sandymon: /* Accuracy International AWM-F */

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{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name=Battlefield 4
|picture=Battlefield 4.jpg
|caption=''Promotional artwork''
|series=[[Battlefield]]
|date=29 October 2013
|developer=DICE
|platforms=PC Playstation 4 Playstation 3 XBOX One XBOX 360
|publisher=Electronic Arts
|genre=First-Person Shooter
}}
[[file:Battlefield-4China-RisingCover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Battlefield 4 - China Rising'' (2013)]]
[[file:Battlefield-4-Second-Assault-cover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Battlefield 4 - Second Assault'' (2014)]]
[[file:Battlefield-4-naval-strike-cover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Battlefield 4 - Naval Strike'' (2014)]]
[[file:Battlefield-4-dragon-teeath-cover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Battlefield 4 - Dragon`s Teeth'' (2014)]]

''Battlefield 4'' is the latest installment in the ''[[Battlefield]]'' series developed by Swedish game developer DICE and published by Electronic Arts. It was announced that those who pre-ordered ''[[Medal of Honor: Warfighter]]'' would be granted early beta access to the game. The game was released on October 29.

{{Game Title}}

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=
Handguns are the only class of weapon to be equipped in the secondary slot in multiplayer (with the single exception of the Serbu Shorty 870). They offer a faster transition time than reloading a primary weapon. In an odd departure from ''[[Battlefield 3]]'', magazine-fed handguns all use identical reloading animations. Hammers are in the proper positions for single action firing, if available. To model the longer trigger pull of double-action revolvers, a delay is added before the revolvers actually fire. Handguns offer relatively high damage (the revolvers even more so) at very short range and low damage at distance. Attachments available include lights, lasers, barrel attachments, and both iron and optical sights.

==Beretta M9==
The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta M9]] returns from ''[[Battlefield 3]]'' and is the second sidearm to be unlocked. It is nearly identical to the P226 in performance aside from a slightly different recoil pattern. The M9 is the United States military designation for the 92FS - a widely used semi-automatic 9x19mm handgun with military, police, and civilians. The United States Marine Corps (as showcased in this game) also use the [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta M9A1|M9A1]] variant which features a rail built into the frame. A minor modelling error is evident on a reload from empty - the breech-end of the barrel extends a little too far back. The M9 requires a score of 4000 points earned with pistols to unlock. The in-game model of the pistol is also used for "93R", albeit with some changes, such as the addition to the forward grip, which is not used by the player when holding it in-game, unlike in Battlefield 3 where the player holds the gun using both the pistol grip and the front grip.
[[file:M9-pistolet.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta M9 - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[file:Bf4 hd M9 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Beretta M9 in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd M9 holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "Beretta M9".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd M9 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "Beretta M9".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd M9 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Beretta M9".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd M9 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Beretta M9".]]
[[file:BF493R01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock "93R" in the loadout menu. Note that this is a re-used M9 model with the front grip attached.]]

==Chiappa Rhino 40DS==
The [[Chiappa Rhino]] revolver appears in the DLC Naval Strike, called "SW40". It is the 4 inch barrel version. The Rhino's visible hammer does not move while firing, which is actually correct, as the gun has an internal hammer and the visible part is simply a lever used to cock the internal hammer, which does not stay back after the internal hammer is cocked, nor does it move while firing (a comparison could be made to an AR-15 or MP5 charging handle, which only move when moved by the user, as they are separate from the bolt).
[[Image:Chiappa Rhino 4".jpg|thumb|none|400px|Chiappa Rhino 40DS (4" barrel version) - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:BF4RHINO01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock Chiappa Rhino 40DS in the loadout screen..]]
[[Image:BF4RHINO02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Rhino being held.]]
[[Image:BF4RHINO03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Rhino's iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4SW40Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the Rhino, whether fired or not, the rounds are always rendered as if they have not been fired.]]

==CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW==
The [[CZ 75#CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW|CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW]] chambered in .40S&W is an unlockable sidearm in the game, holding 12 rounds in the magazine. This pistol requires a score of 45000 points earned with pistols to unlock.
[[Image:CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:BF4CZ7501.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock CZ 75 in the loadout menu, engravings on the slide says "Made in Czech Republic".]]
[[Image:BF4CZ7502.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CZ 75 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4CZ7503.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CZ 75 iron sight.]]

==Desert Eagle Mark XIX==
The [[Desert Eagle Mark XIX]] appears as the "DEagle 44" in the Dragon's Teeth DLC. Fitting the "Compensator" attachment to the weapon will add the real world IWI muzzle break available on new Desert Eagle pistols (It is referred to in the second image). However, fitting the "Muzzle brake" attachment will produce the same generic break used on other pistols.
[[Image:DesertEagle44ModelXIX.jpg|thumb|400px|none|IMI Desert Eagle MK XIX - .44 Magnum]]
[[File:BCFDE.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Desert Eagle Mk XIX in brushed chrome finish and with a muzzle brake - .50AE]]
[[Image:BF4DEAGLE01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Desert Eagle Mark XIX in the customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4DEAGLE02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Desert Eagle Mark XIX being held by the player.]]
[[Image:BF4DEAGLE03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Desert Eagle Mark XIX iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4DEAGLEReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading Desert Eagle Mark XIX.]]

==FN Five-seveN==
The [[FN Five-seveN]] is available in multiplayer. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website. In-game the Five Seven does slightly less damage than 9x19mm pistols but benefits from having superior accuracy and a large 20 round magazine capacity. The Five Seven requires 28000 points with handguns to unlock.
[[Image:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Five-seveN - FN 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:BF45701.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock Five-Seven in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF45702.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Five-Seven being held.]]
[[Image:BF45703.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Five-Seven iron sight.]]

==Glock 17==
On the cover art, as well as other promotional artwork, Recker is seen holding a [[Glock 17]] with a flashlight attached to it. The standard version has the same tan frame as the Glock 18; it is also wielded by Pac throughout the campaign, as well as Agent Kovic in Shanghai, and Captain Garrison uses one with an black frame in the level "South China Sea". It is only seen in the singleplayer campaign, used by NPCs.
[[file:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Glock 17 3rd Generation - 9x19mm]]
[[file:Bf4 hd glock 17 2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Glock 17 in game]]

==Glock 18==
The [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website. The fire rate was formerly 900 rounds per minute, but this has since been corrected to the proper 1100 round per minute fire rate. The Glock requires 23000 points with handguns to unlock. It's worth noting that it's actually a reuse of the G17's model with an 18's selector added; it features all of the cocking serrations, instead of the middle section of them being flat, where the fire mode markings are.
[[Image:Glock18c 01-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Glock 18 - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:BF4G1801.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Stock Glock 18 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4G1803.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Glock 18 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4G1802.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Glock 18 iron sight.]]

==Heckler & Koch HK45C==
The [[Heckler & Koch HK45#Heckler & Koch HK45C|Heckler & Koch HK45C]] is the very last sidearm to be unlocked in multiplayer, and is listed as the "Compact 45" presumably for trademark reasons; however, DICE's internal file name for the pistol remains "HK45C". It uses 10-round extended "elephant foot" magazines, and has the threaded barrel of the 45CT. The HK45C was developed as the compact version of the full-size [[Heckler & Koch HK45|HK45]], but shares some characteristics with the 9x19mm [[Heckler & Koch P2000|HK P2000]]. The HK45CT suppressor-ready variant has been adopted by United States Naval Special Warfare units in limited numbers as the Mk 24 Mod 0 Combat Assault Pistol. The HK45C is the last handgun unlocked via score in multiplayer, requiring 57000 points with handguns.
[[Image:HK45C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK45C with standard 8-round magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BF4HK45Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the HK45C.]]
[[Image:BF4C4503.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock HK45C in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4C4504.jpg|thumb|none|600px|HK45C being held.]]

==Mateba Model 6 Unica==
The [[Mateba Model 6 Unica]] appears as the "Unica 6" in the Dragon's Teeth DLC. If the Compensator attachment is used, the gun will use its own unique compensator instead of the generic one that everything else uses.
[[Image:Pistol Italian Mateba Unica in .44 Rem. Mag. with muzzle break.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mateba Model 6 Unica with 5" Barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[File:BF4DMateba01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mateba Model 6 Unica in the loadout menu.]]
[[File:BF4DMateba02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mateba Model 6 Unica being held.]]
[[File:BF4DMateba03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mateba Model 6 Unica iron sight.]]
[[File:BF4MatebaReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading Mateba Model 6 Unica.]]

==MP-412 REX==
During the Singleplayer campaign, Dunn gives Recker an [[MP-412 REX]] to shoot the windshield of the car. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website. Rather interestingly, The MP-412 can be modified with most of the accessories available to the other pistols. While it cannot be suppressed, red dot sights, lights, lasers, and compensators/muzzle brakes can all be added to the weapon. The REX cannot be unlocked through multiplayer, the player must complete the first mission of the single-player campaign to unlock it.
[[file:Mp-412-1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MP-412 REX - .357 Magnum]]
[[file:BF4REX01.jpg|thumb|none|599px|MP-412 REX in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd MP-412 REX holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "MP-412 REX".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd MP-412 REX aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "MP-412 REX".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd MP-412 REX reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "MP-412 REX".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd MP-412 REX reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "MP-412 REX".]]

==MP-443 Grach==
The [[Yarygin PYa#MP-443 Grach|MP-443 Grach]] returns from ''[[Battlefield 3]]'' and is unlocked in multiplayer by earning 13000 points with pistols.
[[File:MP433Grach.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP-443 Grach - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[file:BF4MP44301.jpg|thumb|none|599px|MP-443 Grach in game.]]
[[file:BF4MP44302.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player holds the "MP-443 Grach".]]
[[file:BF4MP44303.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player aims to "MP-443 Grach".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd mp-443 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player reloads "MP-443 Grach".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd mp-443 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player reloads "MP-443 Grach".]]

==Norinco QSZ-92-5.8==
The [[QSZ-92|Norinco QSZ-92-5.8]] appears in Battlefield 4. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website. The weapon has flip-flopped between 15-round and 20-round magazine capacities, starting with 20 in the beta, 15 in the final release, then patched back to 20 later. In reality, both 15-round and 20-round magazines for the 5.8x21mm rounds are in existence. The QSZ-92 requires 8000 points earned with pistols to unlock.
[[file:11 qsz-92-5 Main.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Norinco QSZ-92-5.8 - 5.8x21mm DAP92]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QSZ-92-5.8 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Norinco QSZ-92-5.8 in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QSZ-92-5.8 holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "Norinco QSZ-92-5.8".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QSZ-92-5.8 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "Norinco QSZ-92-5.8".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QSZ-92-5.8 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Norinco QSZ-92-5.8".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QSZ-92-5.8 reloading2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Norinco QSZ-92-5.8".]]

==SIG-Sauer P226R==
The [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG-Sauer P226|SIG-Sauer P226R]] is featured in multiplayer as the default sidearm for all classes and factions, despite (or possibly because of) the fact that none of the factions in the game employ the P226R in any significant numbers. The original P226 is chambered in 9x19mm and was submitted to compete to replace the [[M1911 pistol series#Colt Variants|M1911A1]] as the standard service pistol of the United States military (eventually won by the [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92F]] due to total package price, becoming the M9). Soon after, the P226 was selected for use by the United States Naval Special Warfare Command, and remains in service today. The P226R added an accessory rail to the frame, though the "R" designation was later dropped. In the game it uses standard 15-round magazines and features an extended threaded barrel for suppressors.
[[file:P226R.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG-Sauer P226R - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[file:Bf4 hd SIG-Sauer P226R menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SIG-Sauer P226R in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd SIG-Sauer P226R holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "SIG-Sauer P226R".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd SIG-Sauer P226R aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "SIG-Sauer P226R".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd SIG-Sauer P226R reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "SIG-Sauer P226R".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd SIG-Sauer P226R reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "SIG-Sauer P226R".]]

==Taurus Model 44==
The [[Taurus Model 44]] (once again listed as the ".44 Magnum") is available in multiplayer as the second to last sidearm unlocked. It does an impressive 85 damage per shot, more than the semi-automatic shotguns in the game (excluding the QBS-09). It requires 51000 points earned with pistols to unlock.
[[Image:Taurus 44.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Taurus Model 44 - .44 Magnum]]
[[Image:BF4T44Menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Taurus Model 44 in the multiplayer weapon customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4T44Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Taurus Model 44 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4T44Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the Taurus Model 44.]]

==Vickers Tactical Custom 1911==
A one-off custom variant of the [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]], made by Larry Vickers of Vickers Tactical specifically made for [[Medal of Honor: Warfighter]], replaces the [[M1911 pistol series#M45 / MEU(SOC)|M45 MEU(SOC)]] from ''[[Battlefield 3]]''. Noticeably, the Vickers trademarks are now removed, and it now uses a 7-round magazine compared to 8 from the last game. It is one of the later sidearms unlocked in multiplayer, requiring 34,000 handgun points, and one of only two sidearms that have a 3x scope available (via a frame rail mount) - the other being the .44 Magnum. The firearm features various modern updates to the venerable M1911 design. However, the M45 MEU(SOC) or the new M45A1 would have been a far more realistic choice as it is in service with the United States Marine Corps Special Operations Command.

This handgun requires 34000 points earned with handguns to unlock.

[[File:MOH Warfighter Vickers Tactical 1911.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Custom-built Vickers Tactical 1911 for ''Medal of Honor: Warfighter'' fitted with a Surefire X300 light - .45 ACP]]
[[File:BF4191101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock Vickers Tactical 1911 in the loadout menu]]
[[File:BF4191102.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vickers Tactical 1911 being held]]
[[File:BF4191103.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vickers Tactical 1911 iron sight]]

=Submachine Guns=
Unlike the previous game, SMGs and any other weapons that appeared under the "PDW" category are now exclusive to Engineers. Their once-exclusive carbines are now all-kit weapons.
==Beretta Mx4 Storm==
The Beretta Mx4 Storm, the select-fire military variant of the [[Beretta Cx4 Storm|Cx4]] is available in multiplayer. It is listed simply as the "Mx4". It is the starting weapon of all three factions' Engineer classes.
[[file:Beretta Mx4 Storm.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta Mx4 Storm - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Beretta Mx4 Storm menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Beretta Mx4 Storm in game.]]
[[Image:BF4MX4Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Mx4 Storm in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4MX4Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the Mx4 Storm.]]

==CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1==
The [[CZ Scorpion Evo 3 series#CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1|CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1]] appears as the "CZ-3A1", and has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website. It is listed under the PDW category and requires 37000 points earned with PDWs to unlock.
[[Image:CZ SCORPION EVO 3 A1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1 - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:BF4CZ3Menu.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1 in the multiplayer weapon customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4CZ3Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4CZ3Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1.]]

==FN P90 TR==
The [[FN P90#P90 TR|FN P90 TR]] is available in the campaign and unlockable in multiplayer by means of an assignment. Hanna uses this gun as her main weapon in the campaign, it is attached with a Trijicon red dot sight.
[[file:FN P90 Triple Rail (TR).jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN P90 TR - FN 5.7x28mm]]
[[file:BF4P90Menu.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FN P90 TR in game.]]
[[file:BF4P90Hold.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The player holds the "FN P90 TR".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd P90TR aim.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The player aims to "FN P90 TR".]]
[[file:BF4P90Reload.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The player reloads "FN P90 TR".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd P90TR reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The player reloads "FN P90 TR".]]

==Heckler & Koch MP7A1==
The [[Heckler & Koch MP7|MP7A1]] is featured in the China Rising DLC.

[[Image:MP7 40rdmag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 with Zeiss Z-Point red dot sight and 40-round magazine - 4.6x30mm]]
[[Image:BF4MP701.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock MP7A1 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4MP702.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MP7A1 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4MP703.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MP7A1 iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4MP7Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the MP7A1.]]

==Heckler & Koch UMP45==
The [[Heckler & Koch UMP|Heckler & Koch UMP45]] is an available PDW in the game. Unlike BF3, the front sight assembly is removed when equipped with optics. In real life, this would not be possible without permanently altering the weapon. Unlike its 9mm brother, the UMP45 is present in the unlock tree for PDW's, and does not require the player to complete an Assignment. The UMP-45 requires 11000 score with PDWs to acquire.
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch UMP45 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BF4UMP45Menu.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The UMP45 in the multiplayer weapon customization menu. (Note that the "Heavy Barrel" attachment makes the barrel longer. This seems to be the case with several of the Personal Defense Weapons in the game.)]]
[[Image:BF4UMP45Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The UMP45 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4UMP45Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the UMP45. On a reload from empty, the player now utilizes the bolt release on the receiver.]]

==Heckler & Koch UMP9==
The [[Heckler & Koch UMP|Heckler & Koch UMP9]] is an unlockable PDW in the game, by means of an Assignment.
[[Image:Hk ump9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch UMP9 - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:BF4UMP9Menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The UMP9 in the multiplayer weapon customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4UMP9Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The UMP9 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4UMP9Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the UMP9. On a reload from empty, the player now utilizes the bolt release on the receiver.]]

==Jian She Type-05==
The [[QCW-05#Jian She Type-05|Jian She Type-05]] appears in-game as the last PDW unlocked. Strangely, the in-game model is a hybrid of the Type-05's flattop with rail, and the [[QCW-05#QCQ-05|QCQ-05]]'s 5.8mm chambering and unsuppressed barrel. This may be justified given that the game is set in the future. It is the last unlocked weapon in the PDW set, requiring a PDW score of 48000.
[[Image:JS05.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jian She Type-05 - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:QCQ05.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jian She QCQ-05 - 5.8x21mm]]
[[Image:BF4JS2Menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type-05 in the multiplayer weapon customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4JS2Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type-05 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4JS2Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the Type-05. Note the 5.8x21mm rounds, a feature of variants other than the Type-05.]]

==PP-2000==
The [[PP-2000]] is available in multiplayer. This time around, it has a 44-round magazine by default. It is an unlockable PDW requiring 4000 points earned with PDWs.
[[Image:Pp-2000 1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PP-2000 - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[file:Bf4 hd PP-2000 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PP-2000 in game.]]
[[Image:BF4PP2000Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The PP-2000 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4PP2000Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the PP-2000.]]

==Saab Bofors Dynamics CBJ-MS==
The [[Saab Bofors Dynamics CBJ-MS]] appears in-game as an unlockable PDW. It has the highest muzzle velocity in its class, due to its unique 6.5x25mm rounds. The weapon model shows a 100-round drum magazine, but it actually only holds 50+1 rounds in-game. It requires 19000 PDW points to unlock.
[[Image:CBJ-MS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Saab Bofors Dynamics CBJ-MS - 6.5x25mm CBJ-MS]]
[[Image:BF4CBJMSMenu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A CBJ-MS in the multiplayer weapon customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4 CBJMS 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The CBJ-MS in the "Levolution" trailer, seen in the hands of an Engineer player as he traps an unlucky enemy player in a traincar with a hand grenade.]]
[[Image:BF4 CBJMS 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having successfully dispatched his foe, the Engineer reloads his CBJ-MS.]]

==SIG-Sauer MPX==
The [[SIG-Sauer MPX]] appears as the "MPX" in the Dragon's Teeth DLC, it is chambered for .40 S&W.
[[Image:SIG MPX.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer MPX - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BF4MPX01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock SIG-Sauer MPX in the loadout menu.]]
[[File:BF4MPX02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SIG-Sauer MPX being held.]]
[[File:BF4MPX03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SIG-Sauer MPX iron sight.]]
[[File:BF4MPXReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SIG-Sauer MPX reloading.]]

== TsNIITochMash SR-2M Veresk ==
The [[VSS Vintorez#SR-2 Veresk|TsNIITochMash SR-2M Veresk]] appears as the "SR-2" in the Naval Strike DLC, requiring the destruction on 20 boats to acquire it.
[[Image:SR-2Veresk.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SR-2M - 9x21mm]]
[[Image:BF4SR201.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock "SR-2" in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4SR202.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"SR-2" being held.]]
[[Image:BF4SR203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"SR-2" iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4SR2Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"SR-2" reloading.]]

=Shotguns=

==Benelli M1==
A [[Benelli M Series Super 90 Shotguns|Benelli M1]] with a pistol grip stock and top rail incorrectly replaces the the proper [[Benelli M4|Benelli M4]] from BF3 as the "M1014". It does average damage per shot when compared to the other shotguns (equivelant to other semi-auto's barring the QBS-09), but this is balanced with a very high rate of fire and fast reload time. The Benelli M1 requires 11000 score with shotguns to unlock.
[[Image:Bena2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Benelli M1 in similar configuration to the one seen in-game - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Actual M1014 for comparison - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BF4M101401.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Stock Benelli M1 in loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4M101402.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Benelli M1 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4M101403.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Benelli M1 iron sights.]]

==Cobray Street Sweeper==
The [[Armsel_Striker_and_variants#SWD.2FCobray_Street_Sweeper|SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper]], called "DAO-12" in the game, is an unlockable shotgun in the second DLC Second Strike. The reloading animation differs from the Battlefield 3 DAO-12 in that the player will manually turn the key in front of the drum after inserting each shell.
[[Image:CobrayStreetSweeper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper with short barrel and top folding stock - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BF4DAO1201.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock "DAO-12" in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4DAO1202.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"DAO-12" being held.]]
[[Image:BF4DAO1203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"DAO-12" iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4DAO1205.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player inserts a shell into the drum...]]
[[Image:BF4DAO1204.jpg|thumb|none|600px|... and then turns the key in front of the drum.]]

==Daewoo USAS-12==
The [[USAS-12 Shotgun|Daewoo USAS-12]] appears in the game as a battle pickup. It usually is configured with an EOTech sight, though a FLIR sight version is present. It always has a AN/PEQ-15 laser sight and is always loaded with FRAG-12 rounds.
[[Image:USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daewoo USAS-12 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BF4USAS12Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The USAS-12 in the hands of the player.]]

=="DBV-12"==
The DBV-12 (an [[AK-12]] modified to fire shotgun shells, like the the original AK's [[Saiga 12]]) is the last unlockable shotgun in multiplayer. It requires 59000 points earned with shotguns and is the last weapon in the shotgun list.
[[Image:BF4 DBV12 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The DBV-12 in the "Paracel Storm" trailer, fitted with an EOTech sight.]]
[[Image:BF4DBV12Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The DBV-12 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4DBV12Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the DBV-12.]]
[[Image:BF4 DBV12 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock DBV-12 in the loadout menu.]]

==Franchi SPAS-12==
The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It is pump-action, just like in the ''Bad Company'' series and ''Battlefield 3''. In-game the weapon holds 9 (8+1) rounds and requires a score of 37000 with shotguns.
[[Image:SPAS12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Franchi SPAS-12 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BF4SPAS1201.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock SPAS-12 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4SPAS1202.jpg|thumb|none|600px| SPAS-12 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4SPAS1203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SPAS-12 iron sight.]]

==Hawk 97-2==
The [[Hawk shotgun series#Hawk 97-2 (Hawk Pump Tactical)|Hawk 97-2 shotgun]] appears as the "Hawk 12G". It is the most powerful of the Pump Action shotguns but with the largest spread and pellet count at 14 pellets. It requires a shotgun score of 19000. During an empty reload, the magazine is swapped first before the spent shell is pumped out from the chamber.
[[Image:Hawkpump.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hawk Pump Tactical Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BF4Hawk.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Hawk 97-2 in the hands of the player in the E3 multiplayer trailer.]]
[[Image:BF4HAWKHold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Hawk 97-2 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4HAWKReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the Hawk 97-2.]]
[[Image:BF4 Hawk 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock Hawk 97-2 in the loadout menu.]]

==M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System==
The [[M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System]] is once again an unlockable attachment for the Assault Kit, and has a "Mastery" Dog-Tag on the Battlelog website. As with the previous game, multiple ammunition types are available, these are obtained through the Assault Kits level progression as opposed to unlocking through kills by the weapon. When equipped by itself it is outfitted with a Reflex Sight.
[[Image:M26 MASS 5 round.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BF4MASSReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M26 MASS can here be seen mounted on an HK416 that is being reloaded. The animation is glitched as the mag is out of the player's hand.]]
[[Image:BF4MASSFire.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player fires the M26 MASS, mounted on an HK416.]]
[[Image:BF4 M26 MASS 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M26 MASS attached to a HK416 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4 M26 MASS 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M26 MASS held stand-alone.]]

==QBS-09==
The [[QBS-09]] is the default shotgun available once shotguns are unlocked through progression of the Support Class. It is the most powerful semi-automatic shotgun in the game at present, offsetting its rather low 5+1 round capacity. It requires 16000 score with the Support kit to unlock.
[[Image:Qbs-09.jpg|thumb|400px|none|QBS-09 - 18.4mm(12 Gauge)]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QBS-09 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|QBS-09 in game.]]
[[Image:BF4 QBS 09 02.jpg|thumb|600px|none|QBS-09 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4 QBS 09 03.jpg|thumb|600px|none|QBS-09 iron sight.]]

==Remington 870 MCS==
The [[Remington Model 870|Remington 870 MCS]] returns and now holds 7+1 rounds. It is an unlockable weapon requiring 4000 shotgun score, and has a "Mastery" Dog-Tag on the Battlelog. It is the most balanced of the Pump Action shotguns with no defining faults.
[[Image:Remington 870MCS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Remington 870 MCS - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BF4 870 MCS 01.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Stock Remington 870 MCS in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4 870 MCS 02.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Remington 870 MCSbeing held.]]
[[Image:BF4 870 MCS 03.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Stock Remington 870 MCSiron sight.]]

==Saiga-12K==
Recker uses a [[Izhmash Saiga series shotgun#Saiga 12|Saiga-12K]] in the "Angry Sea" trailer. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website. The Saiga requires a score of 28000 points earned with shotguns to unlock.
[[Image:Saiga 12k-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Saiga-12K - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BF4S1202.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Stock Saiga-12K in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4SAIGAHold.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The player holds a Saiga-12K.]]

==Serbu Super Shorty==
An [[Remington 870]]-based [[Serbu Super Shorty]] appears in ''BF4''. It has an intergrated accessory rail, and can mount a Trijicon RMR or Leupold DeltaPoint sight in addition to a traditional pistol ghost sight. Has a correct 2+1 capacity, and as with the 870MCS in ''[[Battlefield 3]]'', is chamberloaded when empty. It is called the "Shorty 12G" in-game, and is available in multiplayer as a sidearm. Unlike other shotguns it can only use Buckshot rounds as well the unlocked Chokes as attachments but cannot fire any alternate ammunition such as Dart, Frag and Slug. It cannot be aimed unless equipped with a sight accessory and is unlocked with 18000 pistol score, though it contributes points towards the other shotguns rather than the rest of the handguns.
[[file:Super Shorty (870).jpg|thumb|400px|none|Serbu Super Shorty (Remington 870) - 12 Gauge]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Serbu Super Shorty menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Serbu Super Shorty in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Serbu Super Shorty holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "Serbu Super Shorty".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Serbu Super Shorty reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Serbu Super Shorty".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Serbu Super Shorty reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Serbu Super Shorty".]]

==UTAS UTS-15==
The [[UTAS UTS-15]] appears in multiplayer. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website, and is labled as "UTS-15". It is the weakest in terms of the pump action shotguns (barring the Shorty 12G which is listed as a sidearm) but posses the most range and tightest spread by default. It requires 48000 shotgun score to unlock.
[[Image:UTAS UTS-15.jpg|thumb|none|400px|UTAS UTS-15 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BF4 UTS15 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The UTS-15 in the "Levolution" trailer, with a night vision optic and canted ironsights.]]
[[Image:BF4UTS15Menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The UTS-15 in the multiplayer weapon customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4UTS15Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The UTS-15 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4UTS15ReloadLeft.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the left magazine tube ...]]
[[Image:BF4UTS15ReloadRight.jpg|thumb|none|600px|... and then the right one.]]

=Assault Rifles & Battle Rifles=
==5.56A-91==
The [[5.56A-91]] returns in multiplayer. It once again has the incorrect designation of "A-91", but this time around, it seems to also be incorrectly chambered in 5.45x39mm. It is once again classified as a carbine, and therefore an all-kit version in the game. It requires 28000 carbine score to unlock.
[[Image:A91.jpg|thumb|none|400px|5.56A-91 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4A9101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock A-91 with Hexagon Naval paint in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4A9102.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A-91 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4A9103.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A-91 iron sight.]]

==AEK-971==
When Recker is falling through the building, an [[AEK rifle series#AEK-971|AEK-971]] is seen on the ground. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website. It requires a score of 28000 points earned with assault rifles to unlock.
[[file:Aek971 545.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AEK-971 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AEK-971 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AEK-971 in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AEK-971 holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "AEK-971".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AEK-971 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "AEK-971".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AEK-971 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "AEK-971".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AEK-971 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "AEK-971".]]

==AK-12==
The [[AK-12|AK-12]] is available in the game. It appears to replace the AK-74M from ''Battlefield 3''. It is the starting weapon for all three factions' Assault class. The AK-12 has a similar ability to the AN-94 from previous battlefield games, selecting burst fire will allow the weapon to fire from a new 750 RPM instead of its default 650 RPM.
[[file:Ak-12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AK-12 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK12 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-12 in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK12 holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "AK-12".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK12 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "AK-12".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK12 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "AK-12".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK12 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "AK-12".]]

==AK-12U==
The AK-12U, a carbine version of the [[AK-12]] with a shortened gas system and barrel also appears in the game, and has stats similar to the AK 5C, but with a slightly slower rate of fire. It is referred to as "AKU-12" in-game, and requires 19000 carbine score to unlock.
[[file:AKU-12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AK-12U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[file:Bf4 hd ak-12u menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-12U in game.]]
[[Image:BF4AKU12Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AK-12U in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4AKU12Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the AK-12U.]]

==AS Val==
The [[AS Val]] appears as an PDW in the Second Assault DLC and is accessible only to Engineers. Uses a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:As val1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AS Val - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:BF4ASVAL01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock AS Val in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4ASVAL02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AS Val being held.]]
[[Image:BF4ASVAL03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AS Val iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4ASVALReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the AS Val.]]

==Beretta ARX-160==
The [[Beretta ARX-160]] appears in the Naval Strike DLC as "AR-160". The weapon is currently glitched as of its March 6th release. The weapon model in 3rd person is much smaller than its real life counterpart and the animation for reloading from a dry magazine does not appear sometimes.
[[image:BerettaARX160.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta ARX-160 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BF4NSARX.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Assault on the back of the hovercraft fires an ARX-160 fitted with an ACOG and Magpul AFG, note how the soldier is gripping the magazine instead of the actual grip.]]
[[image:BF4AR16002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock ARX-160.]]
[[image:BF4AR16003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|ARX-160 being held.]]
[[image:BF4AR16004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|ARX-160 iron sight.]]
[[image:BF4ARX160Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the ARX-160.]]
[[image:BF4AR16005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A teensy weensy wifle... and a CZ805 BREN for scale.]]

==Bofors Ak 5C==
The [[FN FNC#Bofors Ak 5 / AK 5C / AK5D|Bofors Ak 5C]] is seen during "Angry Sea" singleplayer gameplay reveal, and during Siege of Shanghai multiplayer footage. It is an unlockable weapon in the Beta, and thus has a Dog-Tag on the Battlelog. It is the default starting Carbine, once unlocked through progression of the Engineer class. It requires a score of 15000 Engineer points to unlock.
[[File:Ak 5C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ak 5C - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK-5C menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bofors Ak 5C in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK-5C holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "Bofors Ak 5C".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK-5C aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "Bofors Ak 5C".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK-5C reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Bofors Ak 5C".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AK-5C reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Bofors Ak 5C".]]

==Bushmaster ACR==
The [[Bushmaster ACR#Bushmaster ACR|Bushmaster ACR]] with 14.5" barrel returns from ''Battlefield 3'' named "ACW-R", but this time it's chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO. The player character also appears to use the bolt release with his trigger finger, unlike Battlefield 3. It is an unlockable weapon in the Beta. In the full release, the ACR is the first carbine unlocked after the AK 5C, requiring 4000 carbine score.
[[file:Bushmasteracrentry.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bushmaster ACR - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd ACR menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bushmaster ACR in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd ACR holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "Bushmaster ACR".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd ACR aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "Bushmaster ACR".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd ACR reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Bushmaster ACR".]]
[[File:Bf4 hd ACR reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Bushmaster ACR".]]

==CIS SAR 21==
The [[CIS SAR 21]] is seen in the "Battlelog" trailer and in the "Levolution" trailer, as well as in multiple public multiplayer events. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website. Note that the variant used in game is the SAR 21 MMS (Modular Mounting System). It requires 19000 score with assault rifles.
[[file:SAR-21 MMS rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|CIS SAR 21 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[file:BF4SAR21Menu.jpg|thumb|none|599px|CIS SAR 21 in game.]]
[[file:BF4SAR21Hold.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player holds the "CIS SAR 21".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd CIS SAR 21 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "CIS SAR 21".]]
[[file:BF4SAR21Reload.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player reloads "CIS SAR 21".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd CIS SAR 21 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "CIS SAR 21".]]

==Colt M16A4 MWS==
In the early gameplay footage released in early 2013, Recker is seen using an [[M16 rifle series#M16A4 Rifle|Colt M16A4 MWS]] with different accessories attached, including an Elcan M145 3.4x scope and SureFire 45-degree Rapid Transition back-up iron sights, though in the final game, Recker's starting rifle is the [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H]]. In the final game, you unlock the M16A4 with 59,000 Assault Rifle points in multiplayer.
[[file:M16A4withANPEQ&ACOG.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt M16A4 MWS (Modular Weapon System) with KAC M5 railed handguards, AN/PEQ-2 IR designator, KAC RIS foregrip, and Trijicon TA01 4x32 ACOG scope - 5.56x45mm NATO. NOTE: This is the standard USMC style setup.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Colt M16A4 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt M16A4 MWS in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Colt M16A4 holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "Colt M16A4 MWS".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Colt M16A4 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "Colt M16A4 MWS".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Colt M16A4 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Colt M16A4 MWS".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Colt M16A4 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Colt M16A4 MWS".]]

==Colt M4/M4A1 Carbine==
Pac uses a M4A1 during the early gameplay demo. The weapon in the final game is an M4, firing three round bursts with no Automatic option. You unlock the M4 via 59,000 Carbine points.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BF4Pac01.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Pac firing off the M4A1.]]
[[Image:BF4M401.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Stock M4 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4M402.jpg|thumb|600px|none|M4 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4M403.jpg|thumb|600px|none|M4 iron sight.]]

==CZ 805 BREN A1==
The [[CZ 805 BREN|CZ 805 BREN A1]] is the last Assault Rifle to be unlocked, requiring 71,000 Assault Rifle score.
[[file:CZ805bren-a1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|CZ 805 BREN A1 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Bren 805 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CZ 805 BREN A1 in game, note the HK steel STANAG magazine.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Bren 805 holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "CZ 805 BREN A1".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Bren 805 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "CZ 805 BREN A1".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Bren 805 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "CZ 805 BREN A1".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Bren 805 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "CZ 805 BREN A1".]]

==Enfield L85A2==
The [[Enfield L85 rifle series|L85A2]] is included in the China Rising DLC pack. The version is the updated L85A2, with a Daniel Defense RIS and other improvements. For the empty reload, the player character reaches over the gun with their left hand and releases the bolt catch, then taps the bolt to make sure it's fully seated.
[[Image:L85A2 upgraded.jpg|thumb|none|400px|L85A2 with magazine removed, railed forend, ACOG scope, Grippod foregrip, and Surefire FHSA80SA flash hider - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BF4L8501.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The L85A2 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4L8502.jpg|thumb|none|600px|L85A2 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4L8503.jpg|thumb|none|600px|L85A2 iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4L85A2Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the L85A2.]]

==FAMAS FELIN==
The [[FAMAS#FAMAS FELIN|FAMAS FELIN]] is an available assault rifle in the game, requiring 37,000 Assault Rifle score to unlock.
[[file:Famas-felin.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAS FELIN with EOTECH infrared scope - 5.56x45mm]]
[[file:Bf4 hd famas menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FAMAS FELIN in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd famas holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "FAMAS FELIN".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd famas aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "FAMAS FELIN".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd famas reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "FAMAS FELIN".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd famas reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "FAMAS FELIN".]]

==FN F2000 Tactical==
The [[FN F2000]] is an unlockable gun from the Second Assault DLC. This time around you can equip the 1.6x optics on the rails as an alternative to the iron sight when you unlock the weapon.
[[Image:FN_F2000_tactical.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN F2000 Tactical with CAA FVG5 foregrip - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4F200001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock F2000 with 1.6x magnification sight in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4F200002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|F2000 with 1.6x magnification sight being held.]]
[[Image:BF4F200003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|F2000 zoomed in on the 1.6x magnification sight.]]
[[Image:BF4F200004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|F2000 with iron sight being held.]]
[[Image:BF4F200005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|F2000 iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4F2000Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the F2000.]]

==FN SCAR-H==
The [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H]] appears in the "Battlelog" trailer. As confirmed by the Gamespot video showing off all the weapons and gadgets in the game, there are two versions of this rifle in the game — an assault rifle version and a longer-barreled designated marksman rifle version, called the "SCAR-H SV" in-game. The model has been updated, brought in from Medal of Honor: Warfighter, and is a more accurate representation of the current generation SCAR-H. The version for the Assault kit is unlocked with 4000 assault rifle score while the DMR version requires 82000 DMR points.
[[file:FN SCAR-H STD.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN SCAR-H (16" barrel) - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd scar-h menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FN SCAR-H in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd scar-h holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "FN SCAR-H".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd scar-h aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "FN SCAR-H".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd scar-h reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "FN SCAR-H".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd scar-h reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "FN SCAR-H".]]
'''FN SCAR-H (20" barrel)'''
[[file:SCAR-H Long Barrel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN SCAR-H (20" barrel) - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[file:BF4SCARHSV01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock "SCAR-H SV" DMR in the loadout menu. The front sight is clipping through the PWS, which actually appears to be a backwards Daniel Defense style handguard. Attaching any optic removes the front sight, fixing the clipping issue.]]

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
The [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]] is shown at multiple public multiplayer events. Also shown in the kill feed in the "Paracel Storm" trailer. It requires a carbine score of 48000.
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4 G36C 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The G36C in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4G36C02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock G36C in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4G36C03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|G36C being held.]]
[[Image:BF4G36C04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|G36C iron sight.]]

==Heckler & Koch HK416==
Seen in the "Fishing in Baku" gameplay demo. Notably, the [[Heckler & Koch HK rifle series#Heckler & Koch HK416|Heckler & Koch HK416]] now has a longer barrel (probably a 14.5"), and current-gen HK buttstock and grip. The new model, brought over from Medal of Honor: Warfighter, is a far more accurate representation of the real HK416. In all previous ''[[Battlefield]]'' titles, it was outfitted with a 10.4" barrel and standard M4 furniture. It is still called the "M416". It requires an assault rifle score of 11000.
[[file:HK416 current.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK416 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[file:BF4HK416Menu.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Heckler & Koch HK416 in game.]]
[[file:BF4HK416Hold.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player holds the "Heckler & Koch HK416".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd HK416 aim.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player aims to "Heckler & Koch HK416".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd HK416 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player reloads "Heckler & Koch HK416".]]
[[file:BF4HK416Reload.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player reloads "Heckler & Koch HK416".]]

==IMI Galil ACE 21==
The [[Galil#Galil_ACE|IMI Galil ACE 21]] appears in the hands of the player in the "Paracel Storm" trailer as the "ACE 21 CQB". It is classified as a carbine, and is therefore an all-kit weapon. It is the highest capacity of the "ACE" variants at 35+1 rounds. It requires a carbine score of 71000.
[[Image:Galil ACE 21.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Galil ACE 21 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4 ACE21 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The ACE 21 as seen in the "Paracel Storm" trailer.]]
[[Image:BF4ACE21Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The ACE 21 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4ACE21Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the ACE 21. The 35 round magazines are accurate, unlike the assault class' ACE 23. Unfortunately, a STANAG AR-15 magazine is used as evidenced by the magazine catch cutout in this screenshot. Galil ACE magazines are secured via the top of the magazine spine by rocking it in, like the Kalashnikov series of rifles.]]
[[Image:BF4ACE2104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock "ACE 21 CQB" in the loadout menu.]]

==IMI Galil ACE 23==
The [[Galil#Galil_ACE|IMI Galil ACE 23]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It is classified as an assault rifle, and therefore only usable by the Assault class. It is unlocked by completing the "Assault Expert" assignment.
[[file:IMI Galil ACE 23.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Galil ACE 23 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd IMI Galil ACE 23 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|IMI Galil ACE 23 in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd IMI Galil ACE 23 holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "IMI Galil ACE 23".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd IMI Galil ACE 23 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "IMI Galil ACE 23".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd IMI Galil ACE 23 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "IMI Galil ACE 23".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd IMI Galil ACE 23 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "IMI Galil ACE 23".]]

==IMI Galil ACE 52==
The [[Galil#Galil_ACE|IMI Galil Ace 52]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It appears as the "ACE 52 CQB" and is classified as a carbine, meaning that it is therefore an all-kit weapon. It is the most powerful of the carbines on a per shot basis, due to its 7.62x51mm NATO rounds but with the smallest capacity at 25+1. It requires a carbine score of 37000.
[[Image:IMI Galil ACE 52.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Galil ACE 52 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4ACE52Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The ACE 52 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4ACE52Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the ACE 52.]]
[[Image:BF4ACE5203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock "ACE 52 CQB" in the loadout menu.]]

==IMI Galil ACE 53==
The [[Galil#Galil_ACE|IMI Galil Ace 53]] appears in a Gamespot video showing off all the weapons and gadgets in the game. It appears as the "ACE 53 SV" and is classified as a designated marksman rifle, meaning that is therefore an all-kit weapon. It requires a DMR score of 65000.
[[Image:Galil ACE 53.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Galil ACE 53 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4ACE5301.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock "ACE 53 SV" in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4ACE5302.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"ACE 53 SV" being held.]]
[[Image:BF4ACE5303.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"ACE 53 SV" iron sight.]]

==IWI X95==
The IWI [[Tavor TAR-21 rifle series|X95]] is a weapon that is included in the China Rising DLC, named "MTAR-21". It is a carbine, and therefore usable by all classes. Unlike the BF3 model, it uses a tan receiver with the D-guard assembly akin to the 5.45 variant but still fires 5.56 rounds.

[[Image:IWI X95 5.45x39.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IWI X95R with 13-inch barrel and tan body - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BF4MTAR01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock "MTAR-21" in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4MTAR02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"MTAR-21" being held.]]
[[Image:BF4MTAR03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"MTAR-21" iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4MTARReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the "MTAR-21".]]

==Kel-Tec RFB Target==
The 32" barreled Target variant of the [[Kel-Tec RFB]] is available as a DMR in multiplayer, usable by all kits. It is the first unlockable DMR in the game, being available once reaching 13000 points with the Recon kit.
[[Image:RFB-32.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kel-Tec RFB Target - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Kel-Tec RFB Target menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kel-Tec RFB Target in game.]]
[[Image:BF4RFB02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"RFB" being held.]]
[[Image:BF4RFB03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"RFB" iron sight.]]

==M59/66 SKS==
The Yugoslavian M59/66 variant of the [[SKS rifle]] returns from ''Battlefield 3'' as a designated marksman rifle in ''Battlefield 4'', as shown in the Gamespot video showing off all the weapons and gadgets in the game. A "Mastery" Dog-Tag is also present for the weapon on the Battlelog website. It requires a DMR score of 11000.
[[Image:Sks tapco stock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Yugoslavian M59/66 SKS with Tapco furniture - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BF4SKS01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock SKS in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4SKS02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SKS being held.]]
[[Image:BF4SKS03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SKS iron sight.]]

==Magpul PDR-C==
The [[Magpul_PDR#Magpul_PDR-C|Magpul PDR-C]] returns from ''Battlefield 3'', this time as an Engineer-only PDW. The Magpul PDR series was only intended as a design study and never made it past the development stage. Unlike most PDW style weapons, it is chambered in the NATO standard 5.56x45mm round with forward ejection, and a utilizes a 12" barrel. It requires a score of 28000 with PDWs to unlock.
[[Image:MagpulpdrC.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Magpul PDR-C concept with optics removed and 20-round polymer magazine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4PDWR01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The PDR-C in the multiplayer weapons customization menu. Since the game no longer has extended magazine options, it defaults to a 30-round polymer magazine reminiscent of the Magpul PMAG, but is missing much of the ribbing along the magazine body.]]
[[Image:BF4PDRHold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The PDR-C in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4PDRReload1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the PDR-C.]]

==Norinco QBZ-95-1/ Norinoco QBB-95 Hybrid==
The so called "QBZ-95-1" in Battlefield 4 is actually an [[Norinco QB rifle series#Norinco QBB-95|Norinco QBB-95]] using 30-round magazines, for it lacks the new foregrip design and has the fire-selector on the stock, not above the grip like a real QBZ-95-1. It is unlocked by completing an assignment in the Campaign. There is also a shorter-barreled version called the "Type 95B-1" despite not being either a QBZ-95B-1, and is the last carbine unlocked, requiring 83000 carbine score.
[[File:QBB95.jpg|thumb|none|400px|QBB-95 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[File:Norinco QBZ95-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Real QBZ-95-1 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QBZ-95-1 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Norinco QBZ-95-1/ Norinoco QBB-95 Hybrid in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QBZ-95-1 holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "Norinco QBZ-95-1/ Norinoco QBB-95 Hybrid".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QBZ-95-1 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "Norinco QBZ-95-1/ Norinoco QBB-95 Hybrid".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QBZ-95-1 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Norinco QBZ-95-1/ Norinoco QBB-95 Hybrid".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd QBZ-95-1 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Norinco QBZ-95-1/ Norinoco QBB-95 Hybrid".]]

==SIG SG 553==
The [[SIG SG 550|SIG SG 553]] appears in a Gamespot video showing off all the weapons and gadgets in the game. It requires a carbine score of 11000.
[[Image:SIG SG 553-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG SG 553 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd SIG SG 553 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SIG SG 553 in game.]]
[[Image:BF4SG55302.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SG 553 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4SG55303.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SG 553 iron sight.]]

==SRSS BullDog 762==
The [[M14_Rifle#SRSS_BullDog_762|SRSS BullDog 762]] appears as the "Bulldog" in the Dragon's Teeth DLC.
[[Image:Bulldog762.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SRSS BullDog 762 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4Bulldog01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock SRSS BullDog 762 in the customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4Bulldog02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Player holding the "Bulldog".]]
[[Image:BF4Bulldog03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Bulldog's" iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4Bulldog04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading is done by flicking away the old magazine with a fresh one.]]

==Steyr AUG A3==
The [[Steyr AUG#Steyr AUG A3|Steyr AUG A3]] is seen in the "Battlelog" trailer and in multiple public multiplayer events. Unlike in Battlefield 3, it cannot mount the M26 MASS but can still mount the M320 as normal. It requires 48000 score earned with assault rifles.
[[file:6.Steyr AUG A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Steyr AUG A3 18-inch barrel with Surefire M900 weaponlight foregrip and EOTech red dot sight - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd aug-a3 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steyr AUG A3 in game.]]
[[file:Bf4 hd auga3holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "Steyr AUG A3".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd aug-a3 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "Steyr AUG A3".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd aug-a3 reloading 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Steyr AUG A3".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd aug-a3 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "Steyr AUG A3".]]

==SVK-12==
The SVK-12, a designated marksman rifle version of the AK-12 is available with a 15-round magazine. In-game it is referred to as "SVD-12" and is listed to use 7.62×54mmR cartridges, a caliber not available for an AK-12, but present on the actual [[SVD Dragunov]]. It requires a DMR score of 19000.
[[Image:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4SVD12Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SVD-12 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4SVD12Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the SVD-12.]]
[[Image:BF4SVD01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock SVD-12.]]

=Machine Guns=
This category lists the light and medium / general-purpose machine guns available for the player to equip. All are limited only to the support class. Open bolt operation is correctly portrayed (with the exception of the Ultimax Mark 5) in the reload animations and the ammunition belt visibly depletes when approaching empty. Unlike ''[[Medal of Honor: Warfighter]]'', there is no overheating gameplay mechanic and the player may continuously fire as long as ammunition remains. Players may outfit all close and medium-range optics with the exception of canted iron sights. For the most part, when optics are equipped, the front sight assembly is removed. Compared to assault rifles and carbines, machine guns deal greater suppression to enemies and have lower first round recoil multipliers.

==AAI LSAT Light Machine Gun==
The [[LSAT|AAI LSAT Light Machine Gun]] (Lightweight Small Arms Technologies) returns from ''[[Battlefield 3]]''. It is currently in the developmental stages to demonstrate the latest in lightweight LMG design. This is mainly achieved via two new types of ammunition - a cased telescoped 5.56mm round (as shown in the ''Battlefield'' series) and a caseless 5.56mm variant. Interestingly, a round counter developed with the LSAT does not make an appearance in game. It requires 11000 LMG score to unlock.
[[Image:LSAT.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AAI LSAT Light Machine Gun with sights removed - 5.56x45mm Caseless]]
[[file:Bf4 hd AAI LSAT menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AAI LSAT Light Machine Gun in game.]]
[[Image:BF4LSATHold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The LSAT LMG in the hands of the player. Note the polymer cased telescoped rounds.]]
[[Image:BF4LSATReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the LSAT LMG.]]

== Ares-16 MCR ==
The [[Ares-16 MCR]] appears as a weapon introduced in Naval Strike DLC, it appears as the "AWS". It is fitted with a 100 round C-Mag, providing more ammo than the Norinco QBB-95-1 as a magazine fed light machine gun. For some reason, it holds 99+1 rounds in-game instead of 100+1.
[[Image:ARES-16-MCR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ares defense Ares-16 MCR - 5.56x45mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BF4AWR01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "AWS" in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4AWR02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"AWS" being held.]]
[[Image:BF4AWR03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"AWS" iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4AWSReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the "AWS".]]

==Heckler & Koch MG4==
The [[Heckler & Koch MG4]] is the standard light machine gun for the German Bundeswehr (military), gas operated, belt-fed, and fires the 5.56x45mm NATO round. It appears as the standard full length version and is the last LMG to be unlocked in multiplayer, with a required LMG score of 48000.
[[Image:H&KMG4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MG4 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4MG4Menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MG4 in the multiplayer weapons customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4 HKMG4 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MG4 being fired at an enemy.]]
[[Image:BF4 HKMG4 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player fires an MG4 fitted with an EOTech 552 holographic sight in the "Paracel Storm" trailer.]]
[[Image:BF4 HKMG4 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds an MG4 fitted with a night vision optic in the "Levolution" trailer.]]

==FN M240B==
The [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240B]] returns from ''[[Battlefield 3]]''. It is the standard medium machine gun of the United States Army, chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO and a derivative of the [[FN MAG]], one of the most widely fielded machine guns in the world. Interestingly, the United States Marine Corps (as showcased in the game) instead uses the M240G variant. It requires 37000 LMG score. In Dragon's Teeth DLC, a M240 variant is mounted on the "RAWR", Battlefield 4 version of the MAARS robot.
[[Image:M240-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN M240B - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4M240Menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M240B in the multiplayer weapons customization menu.]]
[[Image:BF4M240Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M240B in the hands of the player. Note the "Bravo Team" labeling on the box magazine.]]
[[Image:BF4M240Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the M240B.]]
[[Image:BF4M24005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "RAWR" mounting a M240 variant.]]

==FN M249 SAW PIP==
The FN M249 SAW returns from ''[[Battlefield 3]]''. A derivative of the [[FN Minimi]], it is the standard light machine gun of the various branches of the United States military. Featuring the Product Improvement Package (PIP) which includes an updated retractable stock, railed handguard assembly, and a short barrel. Interestingly, the United States Marine Corps, as shown in this game, currently fields the [[Heckler & Koch HK rifle series#Heckler & Koch M27 IAR|M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle]] (previously in BF3) as a partial replacement for the M249. The game incorrectly depicts the 100-round soft bag magazine as holding 200 rounds. It is not unlocked through normal means in multiplayer, requring completion of a specific action in the single-player story.
[[file:M249_Para_ACOG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN M249 SAW PIP (Product Improvement Package) with retractable stock, railed foregrip, and short barrel - 5.56x45mm]]
[[file:Bf4 hd FN M249 SAW menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FN M249 SAW PIP in game.]]
[[Image:BF4M249Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M249 SAW in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4M249Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the M249 SAW.]]

==M60E4==
The [[M60E4]] is an MG that is released with the Second Assault DLC.
[[Image:M60E4-mk43.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60E4 Mk.43 with Picatinny rails, RIS foregrip, and ammo belt - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4M6001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock M60E4 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4M6002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M60E4 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4M6003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M60E4 iron sight.]]
[[Image:BF4M60Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the M60E4.]]

==Norinco QBB-95==
The [[Norinco QB rifle series#Norinco QBB-95|Norinco QBB-95]] returns from ''[[Battlefield 3]]'' as the "QBB-95-1". It is the light machine gun variant of the Chinese Type 95 family of weapons and is fielded by the People's Liberation Army. It fires the Chinese 5.8x42mm round from either a 30-round box magazine or an 80-round drum magazine (as shown in the game). It has the second highest capacity of all magazine-fed weapons in the game. It is unlocked by acquiring 15,000 points with LMGs.
[[Image:QBB95.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco QBB-95 - 5.8x42mm DBP87]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Norinco QBB-95 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Norinco QBB-95 in game.]]
[[Image:BF4QBB95Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The QBB-95 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4QBB95Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the QBB-95. Unlike its other Type 95 counterparts in the game, the bolt does not lock back on the last round. Whether this is due to the drum magazine or an oversight by the animators remains unknown.]]

==Norinco QJY-88==
The [[Norinco QJY-88]] returns from ''[[Battlefield 3]]''. It is a gas operated, belt-fed light machine gun currently in service with the Chinese People's Liberation Army. It fires the Chinese 5.8x42mm round. The QJY-88 is also known as (and referred to in-game as) the Type 88 LMG - not to be confused with the Type 88 sniper rifle ([[Norinco QB rifle series#Norinco QBU-88|Norinco QBU-88]]) that is also in the game. It is the first unlockable LMG, requiring a 4000 score with LMGs.
[[Image:Type88gpmg2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco QJY-88 - 5.8x42mm DBP87]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Norinco QJY-88 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Norinco QJY-88 in game.]]
[[Image:BF4T88Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The QJY-88 in the hands of the player.]]

==PKP Pecheneg==
The [[PK Machine Gun#PKP Pecheneg Machine Gun|PKP Pecheneg]] is a gas-operated, belt-fed general purpose machine gun in limited service with the Russian Armed Forces and fires the 7.62x54mmR round. Like the earlier PK series of machine guns, it feeds from the right and ejects to the left, which is correctly portrayed in the game. It requires 19000 LMG score.
[[Image:Pecheneg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PKP Pecheneg - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[file:Bf4 hd PKP Pecheneg menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PKP Pecheneg in game.]]
[[Image:BF4PechenegHold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The PKP Pecheneg in the hands of the player.]]

==RPK-12==
The RPK variant of the [[AK-12]] is a light machine gun planned for production in the near future. The game model appears to differ only in the barrel length and magazine. It fires the same 5.45x39mm round and uses a 60-round quad-stack magazine that was developed for the AK-12. It is unlocked by completing the "Support Expert" assignment.
[[Image:RPK-12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK-12 with a new stock design and drum magazine - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BF4 RPK12 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A support class player holding an RPK-12 with a red paint finish spins around in time to shoot an enemy player approaching with a knife in the "Levolution" trailer.]]
[[Image:BF4RPK12Menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The RPK-12 in the multiplayer weapon customization menu. The longer barrel and the thicker profile of the 60-round magazine are evident in this screenshot.]]
[[Image:BF4RPK12Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The RPK-12 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4RPK12Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the RPK-12. Despite an ambidextrous charging handle, the player uses the underhand technique to chamber a round from the right side.]]

==RPK==
The [[RPK light machine gun|"RPK-74M"]] returns from ''[[Battlefield 3]]'' as part of the ''China Rising'' DLC. In actuality, the weapon model is the standard 7.62x39mm RPK, one of the more glaring mistakes in the game. The wood furniture, the magazine curvature, and 40-round capacity clearly indicate that it was originally intended as a standard RPK. While the in-game name and caliber listing (5.45x39mm) indicate the RPK-74M, the 7.62x39mm round would be in the same damage model category, due to its muzzle energy (this is also seen with the SKS). This means only the gun's name and caliber listing are errors. The RPK and RPK-74/74M are light machine gun variants of the AKM and AK-74/74M, respectively. The RPK-74/74M replaced the RPK and is currently in service as the standard light machine gun of the Russian Armed Forces.

[[Image:rpk74m.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Actual RPK-74M with 45-round box magazine and bipod folded - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:RPK_lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK with 40-round box magazine and bipod deployed - 7.62x39mm M43]]
[[Image:BF4RPK01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock RPK.]]
[[Image:BF4RPK02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPK being held]]
[[Image:BF4RPK03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPK iron sight]]
[[Image:BF4RPKReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the RPK.]]

==STK Ultimax 100 Mark 5==
The [[Ultimax 100#Ultimax 100 Mark 5|STK Ultimax 100 Mark 5]] appears the starting weapon for the support class. It is chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO, feeds STANAG M16 compatible magazines, and fires from the open bolt (uncommon for modern magazine-fed weapons). The Mark 5 was submitted to compete in the USMC Infantry Automatic Rifle competition, although it was not selected. The older Mark 3/3A variant is the standard light machine gun for the Singapore Armed Forces. Modelled with a 30-round magazine, it incorrectly holds 45 rounds.
[[file:Ultimax MK5.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|STK Ultimax 100 Mk 5 with Grippod foregrip / bipod - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd STK Ultimax 100 Mark 5 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|STK Ultimax 100 Mark 5 in game.]]

=Sniper Rifles=

==Accuracy International AWM-F==
The [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare series#Accuracy International Arctic Warfare|AWM-F]] is an unlockable weapon in the China Rising DLC. It is again improperly named as an L96A1.

[[File:AI L115A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Accuracy International AWM-F - .338 Lapua..]]
[[File:BF4 L96 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "L96A1" in the loadout menu.]]
[[File:BF4L9602.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"L96A1" being held.]]
[[File:BF4L96A1Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the "L96A1".]]

==AMR-2==
The [[AMR-2]] appears as a battle pickup in the game.
[[Image:Amr-2 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AMR-2 - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:BF4AMR201.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AMR-2 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4AMR202.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Left side of AMR-2.]]
[[Image:BF4AMR203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AMR-2 as a battle pickup.]]

==Barrett M107==
The [[Barrett M82 rifle series#Barrett M107|Barrett M107]] in-game is incorrectly dubbed an [[Barrett M82 rifle series#M82A3|M82A3]] despite it not having a raised top rail and a lack of a rear grip and monopod socket. It is a so-called "Battle Pickup" in the game, called the "M82A3", "M82A3 MID", or "M82A3 CQB", depending on its configuration. It can be seen in the "Paracel Storm" trailer, as it takes out an enemy on a water scooter. The fictional laser range finder that is always mounted on this rifle, and that can be mounted on any of the bolt action rifles as well, is actually an AN/PEQ-11 with the rear end altered to into a display screen. The attachment even says the name if one looks close enough.
[[Image:Berrett M107.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Barrett M107 long range sniper rifle - .50 BMG.]]
[[Image:BF4 M107 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M107 in the "Paracel Storm" trailer. Note the "US Army" markings on the receiver - in the final build this is changed to "USMC" to match the American forces depicted in game.]]
[[Image:BF4M8202.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M107 as a battle pickup.]]

==Barrett Model 98 Bravo==
The [[Barrett Model 98 Bravo#Barrett M98B|Barrett Model 98 Bravo]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events, once again called the "M98B". This time around it correctly holds 10 rounds in the magazine. It requires a sniper rifle score of 34000.
[[Image:0129481.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Barrett Model 98 Bravo - .338 Lapua Magnum]]
[[Image:BF4M98BHold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Barrett M98B in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4M9801.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock Barrett M98B with bi-pod.]]

==Cheyenne Tactical M-200 Intervention==
The [[Cheyenne Tactical M-200 Intervention]] has been seen in the "This is ''Battlefield 4'' Multiplayer" trailer, as well as in an "Only in ''Battlefield 4''" video and in multiple public multiplayer events. It is called the "SRR-61" in the game, named for the Jordanian 61st Special Reconnaissance Regiment, or SRR-61, who use the rifle. It is the last Sniper Rifle unlocked, requiring 42000 sniper rifle points.
[[Image:M200.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Cheyenne Tactical M-200 Intervention - .408 CheyTac]]
[[Image:BF4SRRHold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M-200 Intervention in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4SRRReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the M-200 Intervention.]]
[[Image:BF4 M200 CheyTac 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American Recon player holds an M-200 Intervention in the "This is ''Battlefield 4'' Multiplayer" trailer.]]
[[Image:BF4SRR02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock "SRR-61".]]

==Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout==
The [[Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It's called the "338 Recon" in-game and requires a sniper rifle score of 27000.
[[Image:DTASRS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout - .338 Lapua Magnum]]
[[Image:BF4388Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Stealth Recon Scout in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4388Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the Stealth Recon Scout.]]
[[Image:BF433802.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock Stealth Recon Scout with bi-pod.]]

==F&D Defense FD338==
The F&D Defense FD338, available in the Naval Strike DLC, it's currently the only semi-automatic weapon in the sniper rifle category, meaning that only the Recon class has access to it. It is called the "SR338" in the game.
[[Image:BF4SR33801.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock F&D Defense FD338 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4SR33802.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "SR338" being held.]]
[[Image:BF4SR338Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the "SR338".]]

==Jian She CS/LR3==
The [[Jian She CS/LR Sniper Rifle|Jian She CS/LR3]], also known as the "FY-JS" in the game, is the 5.8mm variant of the CS/LR4. Unlike it's larger caliber sibling, the FY-JS has a standard finish instead the permanent camo on the CS/LR4, like a lot of variants have in the game.
[[Image:Cslr3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jian She CS/LR3 - 5.8×42mm.]]

==GOL sniper rifle==
The [[GOL sniper rifle]], called the "GOL Sniper Magnum" is back from Bad Company 2, returning in the Second Assault DLC.
[[Image:GOL Sniper Magnum.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GOL-Sniper - .338 Lapua]]
[[Image:BF4GOL01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock GOL in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4GOL02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The GOL being held.]]
[[Image:BF4GOLReload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the GOL.]]

==Izhmash SV-98==
The [[Izhmash SV-98]] appears multiplayer. It requires 13000 sniper rifle score.
[[file:SV98.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Izhmash SV-98 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Izhmash SV-98 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Izhmash SV-98 in game.]]
[[Image:BF4SV9802.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SV-98 being held.]]

==Jian She CS/LR4==
The [[Jian She CS/LR Sniper Rifle|Jian She CS/LR4]] is the starting weapon of all three factions' Recon classes.
[[file:CS-LR4.jpg|400px|thumb|none|CS/LR4 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Jian She CSLR4 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jian She CS/LR4 in game.]]
[[Image:BF4LR4Holda.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The CS/LR4 in the hands of the player.]]

==M39 EMR==
On the cover art, Recker is armed with an [[M14#M39_Enhanced_Marksman_Rifle|M39 EMR]] attached with a series of accessories, including a bipod, a sound suppressor and a scope. It appears in multiplayer as a DMR, now holds 20+1, and requires a 37000 score with DMRs to unlock.
[[Image:M-39EMR.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M39 Enhanced Marksman Rifle with Harris bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BF4M3901.jpg|thumb|600px|none|M39 EMR being held.]]
[[Image:BF4M3902.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Stock M39 EMR.]]
[[Image:BF4M3903.jpg|thumb|600px|none|M39 EMR iron sight.]]

==M40A5==
The [[Remington Model 700#M40A5 Sniper Rifle|M40A5]] appears in multiplayer. It is an unlockable weapon that requires 3000 sniper rifle score.
[[Image:M40A5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M40A5 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd M40A5 menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M40A5 in game.]]
[[Image:BF4M40Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M40A5 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4M40Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the M40A5.]]

==McMillan CS5==
The [[McMillan CS5]] appears as the "CS5" in the Dragon's Teeth DLC. It comes with a suppressor attached by default, but it can be removed at the player's discretion.
[[Image:CS5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|McMillan CS5 Compact Sniper Rifle with bipod and sound suppressor - .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:BF4CS501.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock McMillan CS5 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4CS502.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McMillan CS5 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4CS5Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the McMillan CS5.]]

==Mk 11 Mod 0==
The [[Knight's Armament SR-25|Mk 11 Mod 0]] in multiplayer requires 4000 DMR points to unlock.
[[Image:SR25.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 11 Mod 0 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4M1101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock Mk 11 Mod 0 in the loadout menu.]]
[[Image:BF4M1102.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mk 11 Mod 0 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4M1103.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock Mk 11 Mod 0 iron sight.]]

==MKEK JNG-90==
The [[MKEK JNG-90]] is in multiplayer. It requires a sniper rifle score of 20000.
[[Image:JNG-90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MKEK JNG-90 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4JNG90Holda.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The JNG-90 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4JNG02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stock JNG-90 with bi-pod in the loadout menu.]]

==Norinco QBU-88==
The [[Norinco QB rifle series#Norinco QBU-88|Norinco QBU-88]] appears in the game.
[[Image:Qbu-88-0.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Norinco QBU-88 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[Image:BF4QBU8801.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Stock QBU-88.]]
[[Image:BF4QBU8802.jpg|thumb|600px|none|QBU-88 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4QBU8803.jpg|thumb|600px|none|QBU-88 iron sight.]]

==Steyr Elite==
the [[Steyr Elite]] appears in the game. It is the 5.56x45mm version and bizarrely, it only holds 5+1 rounds and is the weakest of the Sniper Rifles, taking almost three shots to kill over long range but posses the fastest rate of fire, aim speed and bullet velocity. It requires 8000 points with sniper rifles.
[[Image:ELITE.jpeg|thumb|400px|none|Steyr Elite - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[file:Bf4 hd Steyr Elite menu.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steyr Elite in game.]]
[[Image:BF4ScoutHold.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A player holding the Steyr with iron sights only.]]

=Launchers=
==GP-30==
If the M320 is mounted to a Russian weapon with the under-barrel rail attached, it instead becomes a [[GP-30]].
[[Image:Gp-30 ak-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GP-30 40mm grenade launcher mounted on an [[AK-74]] (5.45x39mm)]]
[[Image:BF4GP3001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|GP-30 attached to a AEK-971.]]
[[Image:BF4GP3002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holding an AK-12 with a GP-30 attached underneath.]]
[[Image:BF4GP3003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the GP-30.]]

==FGM-148 Javelin==
The [[FGM-148 Javelin]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It is no-longer a fire and forget weapon, requiring a constant lock in order to successfully make a hit.
[[Image:Javalin.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FGM-148 Javelin - 127mm]]
[[Image:BF4 Javelin 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the FGM-148 Javelin.]]

==FGM-172 SRAW==
The [[FGM-172 SRAW]] returns from ''Battlefield 2'' and is once again (incorrectly) depicted as being wire-guided. It can be seen at the beginning of the "Levolution" trailer, and has also been seen in multiple public multiplayer events.
[[Image:Pic-product-predator.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FGM-172 SRAW - 139.7mm]]
[[Image:BF4SRAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the FGM-172 SRAW.]]

==FIM-92A Stinger==
After the player disembarks the helicopter in the E3 multiplayer demo, a soldier is seen running with an [[FIM-92A Stinger]]. It has also been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It is considered a fire and forget launcher but has the shortest range of the portable AA Weapons.
[[Image:-0976t.jpg|thumb|500px|none|FIM-92A Stinger - 70mm]]
[[Image:BF4Stinger.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Stinger in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:Bf4 fim-92.jpg||thumb|600px|none|A soldier carries an FIM-92 Stinger.]]

==Heckler & Koch M320==
Near the end of the singleplayer demo, the player fires a [[Heckler & Koch M320]] from a car's driver seat. It has also been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It is a gadget unlock for the Assault Class and is capable of firing 40mm High Explosive Dual Purpose Grenades in addition to Dart, Smoke, Timed Fragmentation and a new Flashbang ammunition variant. In the Naval Strike update, the M320 gains the ability to fire off 3 grenades semi automatically before reloading, mimicking the Metal Storm 3GL, called "M320 3GL".
[[Image:XM320 stock extended.jpg|thumb|400px|none|H&K M320 - 40x46mm]]
[[Image:Bf4 m320.jpg||thumb|600px|none|Irish gives a H&K M320 to Recker to shoot down the Mi-28 Havoc]]
[[Image:Bf4 m320 2.jpg||thumb|600px|none|Recker takes aim with the H&K M320 to bring down the chopper while Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart plays in the background]]
[[Image:BF4M320Hold.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M320 in the hands of the player.]]
[[Image:BF4M320Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads the M320.]]
[[Image:BF4M32005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M320 mounded under a HK416 in the loadout menu.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM25==
In the live stream of Battlefield 4 during E3, players can be seen equipped with an [[Heckler & Koch XM25]]. It is usable by the Support class only. It too, like the M320 is capable of launching alternate ammunition ranging from its default Airburst, Dart and Smoke rounds. Using Dart ammunition increases the fire rate and it behaves similar to a semi-automatic shotgun with a Infrared Scope.
[[Image:ATKXM25.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch XM25 - 25x40mm]]
[[Image:BF4XM25Reload.jpg||thumb|600px|none|A player reloading an XM25]]

== M203 Grenade Launcher ==

The [[M203 grenade launcher]] appears in the game mounted the "RAWR", only having limited shots before running out of ammo. Four od them are mounted on the robot, two on each side.
[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M203 40mm grenade launcher mounted on an M16A2, 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BF4M20301.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Four M203 grenade launchers mounted on a "RAWR".]]

==MBT LAW==
The [[MBT LAW]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It is the easiest to use but also the weakest of the launchers as the Rocket fired has a self guidence system, providing it's close to the target and will automatically attack the weakest point (top armor).
[[Image:NLAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MBT LAW - 150mm]]
[[Image:BF4NLAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MBT LAW in the hands of the player.]]

==Milkor MGL Mk 1S==
Recker is also seen wielding a [[Milkor_MGL#MGL_Mk_1S|Milkor MGL Mk 1S]] with Picatinny rails and reflex sights. When reloading, the whole 6 grenades are ejected from the cylinder, regardless of how many have been fired, and new ones are loaded, two grenades at a time. It is available as a Battle Pickup in multiplayer.
[[Image:MGL32.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Milkor MGL Mk 1S in desert tan finish fitted with Armson OEG reflex sight - 40x46mm]]
[[Image:Bf4 milkor mgl.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Recker readies his Milkor MGL Mk 1S to fire at a wall and flank the enemy.]]
[[Image:BF4MGL02.jpg|thumb|600px|none|"M32 MGL" as a battle pickup.]]
[[Image:BF4MGL03.jpg|thumb|600px|none|"M32 MGL" sights.]]

==Mk 153 Mod 0 SMAW==
The [[Mk 153 Mod 0 SMAW]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It is the second most powerful the Anti-Tank Launchers and possesses the flattest trajectory over a distance.
[[Image:Mk153SMAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 153 Mod 0 SMAW - 83mm]]
[[Image:BF4SMAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SMAW in the hands of the player.]]

==RPG-7V2==
The [[RPG-7|RPG-7V2]] returns from Battlefield 3, now with the correct rear tube cover of the V2 model. It is the most powerful of unguided Anti-Tank launchers but is also the hardest use at range due to the arcing trajectory of the rocket in flight.
[[file:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[file:BF4RPG7Hold.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player holds the "RPG-7V2".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd RPG-7 aim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player aims to "RPG-7V2".]]
[[file:BF4RPG7Reload.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The player reloads "RPG-7V2".]]
[[file:Bf4 hd RPG-7 reloading 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player reloads "RPG-7V2".]]

==M136 CS==
The [[M136 AT4]] appears as a battle pickup. Referred to as "M136 CS" in game, CS standing for "confined space".
[[Image:AT-4Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M136 AT4 Anti-Tank recoilless launcher - 84mm]]
[[Image:BF4AT401.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"M136 CS" bring held.]]
[[Image:BF4AT402.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"M136 CS" sights.]]
[[Image:BF4AT403.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"M136 CS" battle pickup.]]

==SA-18 Grouse==
The [[SA-18 Grouse]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It is once again called the "SA-18 Igla". In-game it behaves differently from Battlefield 3 instead forgoing the use as a fire and forget launcher for use as a constant lock launcher. In posses the longest range of the AA Launchers but requires a near constant lock to maintain a hit, alternatively, a target can be reacquired even if the target used counter measures providing the missile is still in flight.
[[Image:Igla 191.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SA-18 Grouse - 72mm]]
[[Image:BF4IGLA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the SA-18 Grouse.]]

==Starstreak HVM==
The shoulder launched [[Starstreak HVM]] launcher is available as a battle pickup in the game. It has only two shots and can engage both aircraft and armor. It is requires a constant lock to maintain a hit, however a lock can be reacquired even if a target used counter-measures. The Starstreak is most effective against enemy aircraft as opposed to enemy land vehicles such as enemy armor.
[[Image:Starstreak MANPAD.jpg|thumb|none|250px|Starstreak HVM]]
[[Image:BF4HVM.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the Starstreak HVM.]]
[[Image:BF4HVM01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Starstreak HVM as a battle pickup.]]

=Explosives=
==M2 SLAM==
The M2 [[SLAM]] appears in a Gamespot video showing off all the weapons and gadgets in the game. It is usable by the Engineer class. It is a highly versatile mine, capable of sticking to walls and objects and even enemy vehicles to some extent but inflicts less damage as the M15 AT mine.
[[Image:SLAM.jpg|thumb|none|200px|SLAM]]
[[Image:BF4SLAM01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M2 deployed and held.]]

==M15 anti-tank mine==
The [[M15 anti-tank mine]] appears in a Gamespot video showing off all the weapons and gadgets in the game. It is once again only usable by the Engineer class.
[[Image:Landmine-dod-closeup.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M15 anti-tank mine]]
[[Image:BF4M1501.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M15 being held.]]
[[Image:BF4M1502.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M15 deployed.]]

==M18 smoke grenade==
The [[M18 smoke grenade]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It can be equipped instead of the M67 grenade.
[[file:M18red.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M18 smoke grenade]]
[[file:Bf4 hd M18 smoke.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M18 smoke grenade being held.]]

==M18A1 Claymore==
The [[M18A1 Claymore]] appears in a Gamespot video showing off all the weapons and gadgets in the game. It is usable by the Support and Recon classes. When planted, 3 trip wires shoot from the front of the mine, any thing that crosses the wires will trigger the mine.
[[Image:M18a1 07.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M18A1 Claymore]]
[[Image:BF4CLAY01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M18A1 Claymore being held.]]
[[Image:BF4CLAY02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M18A1 Claymore with trip wires deployed.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous grenade==
The [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It can be equipped instead of the M67 grenade. It is called the "M34 Incendiary".
[[file:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|200px|]]
[[file:BF4M3401.jpg|thumb|none|599px|"M34 Incendiary" being held.]]

==M67 fragmentation hand grenade==
[[M67 hand grenade]]s are the standard grenade of the game.
[[file:Baseball.jpg|thumb|200px|none|M67 fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[file:Bf4 hd M67 holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "M67 fragmentation hand grenade".]]

==M84 stun grenade==
The [[M84 stun grenade]] has been seen in multiple public multiplayer events. It can be equipped instead of the M67 grenade. It's called the "M84 Flashbang".
[[Image:M84stun.jpg|thumb|none|200px|M84 stun grenade]]
[[Image:BF4M8401.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M84 being held.]]

==RGO fragmentation grenade==
The [[RGO/RGN fragmentation grenade|RGO fragmentation grenade]].
[[file:RGO.jpg|thumb|200px|none|RGO fragmentation grenade]]
[[file:Bf4 hd rgo holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "RGO fragmentation grenade".]]

==V40 Mini-Grenade==
The [[V40 Mini Grenade]].
[[file:V40.jpg|thumb|200px|none|V40 Mini-Grenade]]
[[file:Bf4 hd v40 mini holding.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holds the "V40 Mini-Grenade".]]

=Mounted Weapons=

==2A38M autocannon==
Two [[2A38M autocannon]] are mounted on both the Pantsir AA and Tunguska Mobile AA.
[[Image:2a38m.jpg|thumb|none|400px|2A38M autocannon - 30mm]]
[[Image:BF4T2A3801.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pantsir Stationary AA]]
[[Image:BF4T2A3802.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tunguska Mobile AA]]

==9M133 Kornet==
The [[9M133 Kornet]] is launched from the 9K123 missile system as a stationary anti-tank weapon.
[[Image:AT14-Spriggan.JPG|thumb|none|400px|AT-14 Spriggan launcher and missile - 152mm]]
[[Image:BF4KORNET01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|9M133 Kornet launcher.]]

==BGM-71 TOW==
The [[BGM-71 TOW]] appears on the M220 Launcher in the game as an emplaced anti-tank missile launcher for the US faction.
[[Image:Tow 07.jpg|thumb|none|400px|BGM-71 TOW on M220 tripod - 152mm]]
[[Image:BF4TOW01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|BGM-71 TOW launcher.]]

== Bofors 40mm ==
The [[Bofors 40mm]] L/60 cannon is on the AC-13 gunships.
[[Image:40mm bofors.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bofors 40mm L/60 AA gun in a Boffin mounting - 40×311mmR]]

==Browning M2HB==
The [[Browning M2#Browning M2 Heavy Barrel|Browning M2HB heavy machine gun]] appears in the game mounted on vehicles, including M1A2 Abrams tanks.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB heavy machine gun in vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:BF4M201.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Browning M2HB Mounted on a Growler.]]
[[Image:BF4M202.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Player using the M2HB.]]
[[Image:BF4M203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remote controlled M2HB.]]

==Bushmaster M242 chaingun==
In the background appears an LAV-25 fitted with an [[M242 Bushmaster chaingun]].
[[Image:M242 25mm gun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M242 Bushmaster Chain Gun - 25x137mm.]]
[[Image:Bf4 promo lav-25.jpg|thumb|600px|none|LAV-25.]]
[[Image:BF4M24202.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Up close of the LAV-25's M242.]]

==General Electric GAU-8/A Avenger==
The [[General Electric GAU-8/A Avenger]] appears in the game as the secondary armament of the A-10 Thunderbolt II ground attack jet.
[[Image:GAU-8A.jpg|thumb|400px|none|GAU-8/A Avenger complete with feed system and 1,174 round drum - 30x173mm]]
[[Image:BF4GAU801.jpg|thumb|none|600px|GAU-8 mounted on an A-10.]]
[[Image:BF4GAU802.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A destroyed A-10 with the GAU-8 in its nose section.]]

==General Dynamics GAU-12/U==
The [[General Dynamics GAU-12/U#GAU-12/U|GAU-12/U]] is the mounted on the LAV-AD in multiplayer. Though the actual gun fires 25mm ammunition, the game depicts the gun as capable of firing either 20mm or 30mm rounds depending on the player's choosing. The AC-130 also carries a GAU-12/U as does the F-35 jet fighter.
[[Image:GAU-12U.jpg|thumb|none|400px|General Dynamics GAU-12/U with unfired rounds - 25mm]]
[[Image:BF4GAU1201.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GAU-12/U mounted on an LAV-AD.]]

==General Dynamics GAU-17/A==
A pair of [[GAU-17/A|GAU-17/A's]] are mounted on the Transport Helicopters and Attack Boats and now actually eject casings, unlike BF3. The same gun is also depicted as being mounted on Little Birds.
[[Image:GAU-17A HH60.jpg|thumb|400px|none|General Dynamics GAU-17/A, US Air Force version of the M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BF4GAU1703.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The GAU-17/A is mounted on the UH-1Y Venom.]]
[[Image:BF4GAU1704.jpg|thumb|600px|none| GAU-17/A mounted on a Little Bird.]]

==General Dynamics M197 Vulcan==
In several trailers and promo pictures, the [[M197 Vulcan]] is seen mounted on a AH-1Z Viper.
[[Image:M197Gatling.jpg|thumb|400px|none|General Dynamics M197 Vulcan - 20mm.]]
[[Image:Bf4 m197.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The AH-1Z Viper seen with the General Dynamics M197 Vulcan.]]
[[Image:BF4M19702.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Up close of the General Dynamics M197 Vulcan.]]

== HJ-8 Red Arrow ==
The [[HJ-8 Red Arrow]] appears tripod-mounted in the game as a counterpart of the American TOW and Russian Kornet, it is also used on the Chinese ZBD-09 IFV.
[[Image:BaktarShikan3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|HJ-8 Red Arrow launcher and missile - 120mm.]]
[[Image:BF4HJ8.jpg|thumb|600px|none|"My name is Commander Shepard and this is my favorite rocket launcher on the Citadel."]]

==H/PJ-12==
The H/PJ-12 rotary 30mm cannon is mounted on the Chinese Stationary AA LD-2000.
[[Image:BF4HPJ1201.jpg|thumb|600px|none|LD-2000 mounting the H/PJ-12.]]

==Kord==
The [[Kord heavy machine gun]] is seen mounted on a vehicle. Recker also uses it to engage Russian ground forces.
[[Image:Kord 02.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Kord heavy machine gun with ammo box - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:BF4KORD01.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kord mounted on a vehicle.]]
[[Image:BF4KORD03.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kord mounted on a train.]]
[[Image:Bf4 kord 2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Recker firing the Kord at enemy infantry.]]

==M102 105mm Howitzer==
The M102 105mm howitzer is mounted on AC-130 gunship.
[[File:Spectre M102.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Modified M102 howitzer taken from an AC-130 Spectre gunship - 105x372R]]

==Mk 19 Grenade Launcher==
The [[Mk 19 grenade launcher]] is seen mounted on Desert Patrol Vehicles (DPV) and AAVP7A1 amphibious transports.
[[Image:US_Mk._19_40mm_grenade_machine-gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 19 grenade launcher on vehicle mount - 40mm]]
[[Image:BF4MK1901.jpg|thumb|none|600px|DPV mounting a Mk 19.]]
[[Image:BF4MK1902.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Using the Mk 19 on a DPV.]]
[[Image:BF4MK1903.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Firing the Mk 19 on a AAVP7A1.]]
[[Image:BF4MK1904.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mk 19 on a AAVP7A1.]]

==M61 Vulcan==
The [[M61 Vulcan#M61 Vulcan|M61 Vulcan]] appears in the game on Phalanx CIWS and C-RAM installation.
[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M61 Vulcan - 20mm]]
[[Image:BF4M6101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M61 Vulcan on a Phalanx CIWS]]

==NSVT Heavy Machine Gun==
The [[NSV|NSVT Heavy MG]] appears on Russian T-90 tanks that can be controlled remotely from the inside of the tank.
[[Image:6U6 NSV 02.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tripod-mounted NSV HMG with ammo box and belt - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:BF4NSV01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NSV mounted on a T-90 tank.]]
[[Image:BF4NSV02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closer image of the NSVT machine gun. It is one of the lesser detailed weapons in the game.]]

==QJZ-89==
The QJZ-89 is mounted as coax machine gun with the main gun on the Chinese T-99 MBT. It is also mounted on top of the Chinese buggies.
[[Image:BF4TQJZ8901.jpg|thumb|600px|none|QJZ-89 on a buggy.]]
[[Image:BF4QJZ8902.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Mounting a QJZ-89.]]

==Shipunov 2A42==
During the gameplay video, Recker's squad is being chased and shot at by an Mi-28 Havoc armed with a [[Shipunov 2A42]] autocannon.
[[Image:Shipunov 2A42.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Shipunov 2A42 30mm automatic cannon - 30x165mm.]]
[[Image:Bf4 shipunov2A42.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Mi-28 with a Shipunov 2A42.]]
[[Image:BF42A4202.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Close up of the Mi-28 with a Shipunov 2A42.]]
[[Image:BF42A4203.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Close up BTR-90 with a Shipunov 2A42.]]

== Type-85 HMG==
The Type-85 is mounted as an remote controlled machine gun on the T-99 MBT.
[[File:BF4T8501.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Type-85 on a tank.]]

== Type-87==
Four Type-87 are mounted on the Type-95 Mobile AA.
[[File:BF4T8701.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Chinese Mobile AA mounting Type-87 guns.]]
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User:Sandymon

2014-05-23T20:32:09Z

Sandymon:

Hi there,

As a member of IMFDB for a number of years, often hiding in the shadows and rarely contributing, it is unlikely that anyone will ever visit this page. But, in case anyone does, I think it best to perhaps enlighten them about me.

Nationality: British (English if you ask my parents) 

Age: 18-24 

Gender: Male 

Interest in anime: Non-existent 

Interest in films: High 

Interest in television: High 

Interest in videogames: High 

Interest in firearms: High 

Interest in correcting others' mistakes: Unusually, yet not invasively, High 

That's about it, if anyone needs any help with anything, especially proofreading, just let me know, I'd be happy to help :)

P.s. If anyone goes to this page to look for something to use in an argument, just know that I am not an expert in anything (except for maybe general history), and will not claim as such.

[[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

User:Sandymon

2014-05-23T20:29:59Z

Sandymon: Created page with " Hi there, As a member of IMFDB for a number of years, often hiding in the shadows and rarely contributing, it is unlikely that anyone will ever visit this page. But, in case..."

User talk:STEN

2014-05-23T20:20:45Z

Sandymon: /* Wolfenstein: The New Order */

Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Sacred 2 is a prequel for [[Sacred]].
== Usuable weapons ==
=== Exposives ===
This weapon can be used only onse in game for the Shadow Side in a main quest, so this is unusuable for the Seraph and characters if they chose the Light Side (but the Inquisitor, because he can choose only the Shadow Side). But all characters can see it.

== Unusuable weapons ==
=== Desert Eagle ===
Unknown wariant of Desert Eagle (I didn`t idefitite, what is this — Mark I or Mark VII, but if can do this, please, write it) could be in game as usuble weapon and has model and name, «Desert Eagle», but from some reason it can`t drop.
[[File:DesertEagle44Magnum.jpg|thumb|450px|none|[[Desert Eagle Mark VII]] — .44 Magnum.]]

=== Cannon ===

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Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project

== Pistols ==
=== Glock 17 ===
== Submachine guns ==
=== MAC-10 ===
== Shotguns ==
=== Winchester 1300 Defender ===
== Fictional weapons ==
=== Shrinker ===


== Wolfenstein: The New Order ==

Do you actually have the game? You're not just using youtube, are you? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:44, 23 May 2014 (EDT)

Hello, having stumbled onto your page for this game, I realise that your English is perhaps not up to the standard appropriate for this site. I understand why this is, and offer to help you, if you would like. I propose that you let me know when you want to input, and I will help guide you to the high standard visitors expect. Thanks, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

Wolfenstein: The New Order

2014-05-23T20:16:19Z

Sandymon: /* Thompson M1928A1 */

{{WIP}}

'''Wolfenstein: The New Order''' (2014) is a first-person shooter about the story of BJ Blazkowicz, about his unsuccessful attempt to kill General Zetta from [[Wolfenstein]] in 1946 during World War II (which hadn't ended yet, in the game's chronology) and successful - in 1960, when Nazi Powers somehow win the war and the Third Reich expands to include the entire world and even the Moon.
= Handguns =
== Luger P08 ==
Called "Handgun 1946", it appears in 1946 as a standard weapon of the Nazi powers. It can be dual-wielded and suppressed. Also BJ can use it in 1960 in his nightmare, as well as being the weapon of Frau Engel - one of the antagonists of the game. The in-game version incorrectly holds 10 cartridges in the magazine, contrary to the real Luger, which has 8.
[[File:P08Luger1917.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Luger P08]] - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:Luger TNO.JPG|770px|thumb|none|During the "Aryan test" from Frau Engel William has to select the disgusting picture. He also can take Engel`s Luger with its full magazine, but then he fails.]]

= Shotguns =
== Double barreled shotgun ==
William can use a double-barreled shotgun. It holds 2 cartridges and can be dual-wielded.
[[File:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|none|thumb|500px|[[Double Barreled Shotgun]] 1960 era produced - 12 gauge.]]
[[File:WTNO_Shotgun.JPG|thumb|750px|none|BJ with shotgun versus Nazi hound.]]
= Submachine guns =
== Thompson M1928A1 ==
William uses this weapon, resembling a futuristic version of the 'Tommy gun', yet referred to simply as the "SMG", in 1946.
[[File:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|500px|none|[[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|Thomson M1928A1]] - .45 ACP.]]
[[File:M1928 TNO.JPG|thumb|720px|none|William Jozeph holds his Thompson SMG. Note the Cutts compensator and horizontal foregrip.]]

Wolfenstein: The New Order

2014-05-23T20:15:50Z

Sandymon: /* Thompson M1928A1 */

Wolfenstein: The New Order

2014-05-23T20:14:51Z

Sandymon: /* Luger P08 */

{{WIP}}

'''Wolfenstein: The New Order''' (2014) is a first-person shooter about the story of BJ Blazkowicz, about his unsuccessful attempt to kill General Zetta from [[Wolfenstein]] in 1946 during World War II (which hadn't ended yet, in the game's chronology) and successful - in 1960, when Nazi Powers somehow win the war and the Third Reich expands to include the entire world and even the Moon.
= Handguns =
== Luger P08 ==
Called "Handgun 1946", it appears in 1946 as a standard weapon of the Nazi powers. It can be dual-wielded and suppressed. Also BJ can use it in 1960 in his nightmare, as well as being the weapon of Frau Engel - one of the antagonists of the game. The in-game version incorrectly holds 10 cartridges in the magazine, contrary to the real Luger, which has 8.
[[File:P08Luger1917.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Luger P08]] - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:Luger TNO.JPG|770px|thumb|none|During the "Aryan test" from Frau Engel William has to select the disgusting picture. He also can take Engel`s Luger with its full magazine, but then he fails.]]

= Shotguns =
== Double barreled shotgun ==
William can use a double-barreled shotgun. It holds 2 cartridges and can be dual-wielded.
[[File:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|none|thumb|500px|[[Double Barreled Shotgun]] 1960 era produced - 12 gauge.]]
[[File:WTNO_Shotgun.JPG|thumb|750px|none|BJ with shotgun versus Nazi hound.]]
= Submachine guns =
== Thompson M1928A1 ==
William use this weapon, resembling a futuristic version of the 'Tommy gun', yet referred to simply as the "SMG", in 1946 after his hard landing.
[[File:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|500px|none|[[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|Thomson M1928A1]] - .45 ACP.]]
[[File:M1928 TNO.JPG|thumb|720px|none|William Jozeph holds his Thompson SMG. Note from the Cutts compensator and horizontal foregrip.]]

Wolfenstein: The New Order

2014-05-23T20:14:07Z

Sandymon:

{{WIP}}

'''Wolfenstein: The New Order''' (2014) is a first-person shooter about the story of BJ Blazkowicz, about his unsuccessful attempt to kill General Zetta from [[Wolfenstein]] in 1946 during World War II (which hadn't ended yet, in the game's chronology) and successful - in 1960, when Nazi Powers somehow win the war and the Third Reich expands to include the entire world and even the Moon.
= Handguns =
== Luger P08 ==
Called "Handgun 1946", it appears in 1946 as weapon of the Nazi powers. It can be dual-wielded and suppressed. Also BJ can use it in 1960 in his nightmare, as well as being the weapon of Frau Engel - one of the antagonists of the game. The in-game version incorrectly holds 10 cartridges in the magazine, contrary to the real Luger, which has 8.
[[File:P08Luger1917.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Luger P08]] - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:Luger TNO.JPG|770px|thumb|none|During the "Aryan test" from Frau Engel William has to select the disgusting picture. He also can take Engel`s Luger with its full magazine, but then he fails.]]
= Shotguns =
== Double barreled shotgun ==
William can use a double-barreled shotgun. It holds 2 cartridges and can be dual-wielded.
[[File:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|none|thumb|500px|[[Double Barreled Shotgun]] 1960 era produced - 12 gauge.]]
[[File:WTNO_Shotgun.JPG|thumb|750px|none|BJ with shotgun versus Nazi hound.]]
= Submachine guns =
== Thompson M1928A1 ==
William use this weapon, resembling a futuristic version of the 'Tommy gun', yet referred to simply as the "SMG", in 1946 after his hard landing.
[[File:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|500px|none|[[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|Thomson M1928A1]] - .45 ACP.]]
[[File:M1928 TNO.JPG|thumb|720px|none|William Jozeph holds his Thompson SMG. Note from the Cutts compensator and horizontal foregrip.]]

Talk:Grand Theft Auto V

2014-05-14T14:59:17Z

Sandymon: /* AP Pistol */

== new page and type 56-2 ==

Hi!
I made this kinda quick. Didn't have a lot of time to check errors.
I'm relatively new to the editing in this site. So if any veteran
around with more knowledge could help improve the article would be indeed
great.
When it comes to the weapon, I believe it's a Norinco Type 56-2 since the stock
looks like the one in a Type 56-2. Otherwise correct if I'm wrong.
Also one of the guys seems to have a laser sight. Don't know which sort though
[[User:Santos|Santos]] 17:08, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

The rifles seem to have some sort of rail system on them... which I think is a shame--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 10:55, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

:Most likely is the handguard with picatinny rails. The guy knocking on the van leading those other two men, seems to have a laser sight attached to it. This is a handguard is from FAB-Defense. http://www.fab-defense.com/images/big-details/ak-47-1.jpg

One of the screenshots mentions "excellent" trigger discipline, to me it looks like his finger is actually on the trigger as there is a small curve in the shape of the finger, I wouldn't refer to that as excellent trigger discipline. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:42, 1 December 2011 (CST)

:To me it looks like the guy is holding his finger just slightly above the trigger area, not excellent but still better than most games have, to be honest the only game i can remember that had great trigger discipline was MGS4 where Snake kept his finger completely off the triggers of all weapons unless he was aiming them, but i think that since they're both video games, bad trigger discipline can be excused since i doubt developers want to spend who knows how many hours giving every character separate finger animations for trigger discipline, and also there is the fact that the character can have their fingers wrapped around the triggers, but the players have theirs completely off the fire button, so essentially, it's our own 'trigger' discipline that video game characters have (least that's how i see it) we should save the bad trigger discipline arguments for movies.[[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 16:26, 8 March 2012 (CST)
::Add ''[[ArmA 2]]'' to the list of games with excellent trigger discipline. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

== M4? ==

Help to identify; looks like a M4 rifle with longer (?) and suppressed barrel. [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] ([[User talk:Pawelm|talk]]) 13:55, 10 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I would say that it has a shorter barrel than an M4A1. I would say it's a suppressed [[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 14:21, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Suppressor resembles an AAC model which covers more of the barrel than the KAC suppressors we commonly see, so it's possible it could still be an M4. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:10, 10 November 2012 (EST)

:If it was an M4 length barrel, there would be no suppressor left to actually trap the gas to suppress the weapon. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 22:24, 10 November 2012 (EST)

looks like it has the older CAR-15 style stock [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:38, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:What people refer to as CAR-15s (XM177, XM177E1, XM177E2 etc) were fitted with a stock that was made of aluminium with a black polymer coating as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#2nd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. Later Colt carbines up to and including the M4 had a synthetic fiberlite stock as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#3rd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. The easiest way to tell them apart are the vertical reinforcing ribs that are present on the side of the fiberlite stock, which are present in the game gun. As this stock can be found on Mk. 18s, Model 933s and M4s (all of which this gun could be depending on how the suppressor fits) that doesn't really help. However as the gun has the slim handguard rather than the thicker double heat shield M4 handguard, my best guess would be a Mk. 18. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:03, 11 November 2012 (EST)
::What I think he meant was this is the 3rd Gen stock, the four-position plastic, not the newer six-position.--[[User:Sangheili1155|Sangheili1155]] ([[User talk:Sangheili1155|talk]]) 02:43, 12 November 2012 (EST)
I've seen scans that show one of the other characters holding that weapon without a suppressor on it. I'd definitely go with Mk.18 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 01:12, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure that this is why this image is in this section, but I cant believe these animated pictures as validation for the weapons in the game. GTA IV had MANY weapons in the loading screens that for what ever reason never made it to the final product.--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:05, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:Check the [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] page and you'll notice we include loading screen weapons on it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

::If a weapon is in the game and can be identified, then it should be identified. This includes artwork, loading screens, stock footage, in-game posters, whatever; if it's a clear and identifiable shot it's included. Weapons only seen in previews can also be included as long as the image is from a legitimate source and not leaked. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (EST)

Cover for the latest Game Informer magazine. You can see the suppressor is missing but the muzzle and the barrel is missing [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Weapon Selection hope==

So I don't know about most of you, but one of the worst aspects to these games is the frank lack of weapons for which you to use. I am not saying that the game doesn't need 100 different firearms, but there is no need to use the low level weapons once the higher tier weapons are unlocked (compare the Glock and Desert Eagle in GTA IV, how often do you use the Glock after unlocking). If nothing else I hope that this game has at least 3-4 variations in firearm. There are tons of vehicles to choose from, but you dont spend most of your time offing people with cars. Having to use the same repetitive weapon again and again bores me. What are your thoughts?--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:09, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Four or five options of each type sound good to me. I'm hoping we get a silenced pistol again this time. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)

:@Spartan198, exactly! The way I have seen it (for example), in the pistol category there should be a standard (Glock), Hi standard (1911), Burst (Beretta 93R), Special (Silenced [if no ability to customize]), and Magnum (Desert Eagle/Equivilant). Now this is a very basic look, but I think you can catch my drift. Same thing for shotguns where there should be a Double Barrell (For range and/or sawed off), Pump (Mossberg), Semi Auto (Benelli M4), and Automatic (USAS-12/AA-12). You can make any adjustments for which weapons are in which category does not matter. But the differences. --[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 12:45, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Seeing the silenced 56-2s in the reveal; its likely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 01:25, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping to see an [[Ithaca 37]] in this like in San Andreas, being that this is taking place in the same fictional Los Angeles. --[[User:QueenSasha24|QueenSasha24]] ([[User talk:QueenSasha24|talk]]) 04:01, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping for a SIG P226 myself this time around, but with the 92FS, that's looking unlikely. I like Valiant's system of classification, though. Using that system, I'd like to see assault rifles classified like this: an AKMS without a stock (low accuracy, short range), the Type 56 (medium accuracy, short range), the AR-15 variant (high accuracy, medium range), TAR-21 (high accuracy, long range). A grenade launcher attachment (if the weapons are customizable) would be nice, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:38, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

==Trailer 2==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzue74y7A84

The only new weapon I see looks to be an M4 type at 1:15. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:05, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Aaaargh! Why won't videos stream for me? It's been like this for the past 3 days! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:34, 15 November 2012 (EST)

== Trailer #2 Screenshots ==

[[File:Gta5-1.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 platform rifle]]
[[File:Gta5-2.JPG|200px|thumb|none|The handguard is longer than M4-style one]]
[[File:Gta5-3.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 style rifle, looks a bit like a HK416 to me, also the guy on the right has the same, or very similar gun]]

The rifle on the 3rd screencap looks like a HK416 variant (handguard with these thin vents). Also the rifle in 1st and 2nd screenshot seems to be different than the one in the 3rd. It has a black magazine, in games a gun rarely can have a mag swapped out. :D --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:06, 15 November 2012 (EST)

PS sorry for the black bars guys :\ --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:08, 15 November 2012 (EST)

:I'm guessing it is the same rifle in all 3 caps. Also, in the first screencap you can see the distinctive forward assist/brass deflector that is used on VLTOR VIS and MUR upper receivers ([[Media:NovesDiplomat.jpg|here]] is a picture of a Noveske Diplomat with a VIS upper showing the forward assist). Although these uppers are used on Noveske rifles, I don't think this is one as the handguard is wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:22, 15 November 2012 (EST)

It looks like more an AAC Honey Badger (look at the stock and the bolt) than an HK416 or AR-15-like rifle for the 3rd picture. --[[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]])
:Several reasons why I don't think it is a Honey Badger: firstly, the stock on the Honey Badger extend on rails on the side of the receiver like an MP5, as opposed to this where it extends along the buffer tube in typical Colt Carbine fashion; secondly it appears that it has a VLTOR VIS/MUR upper receiver based on the design of the combined forward assist and brass deflector which the Honey Badger doesn't; lastly, even if you disagree that it is a VLTOR upper it definitely has a forward assist, which the Honey Badger does not just having a normal brass deflector. In what way do you think the bolt makes it a Honey Badger they are pretty much the same on a typical AR-15 and a Honey Badger aren't they? (with the exception of the FA serrations, but from these screenshots you cannot tell whether they are there or not.) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:30, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Very usefull thing i found ==

Hey guys i think this thread has everything about Weapons for GTA V, GTA Fans are really great at spotting things http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=532181&st=0
--[[User:Faizanali|Faizanali]] ([[User talk:Faizanali|talk]]) 03:38, 20 November 2012 (EST)
: As a member of GTA Forums, I can reliably say that anything you see there should be taken with the biggest dose of salt in history. Like, something from Big Bone Lick State Park. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 04:06, 20 November 2012 (EST)

== 1911 and Glock ==
A new artwork was revealed, and it has a 1911 and a glock variant. We should put on the main page?--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] ([[User talk:Flavio|talk]]) 15:16, 4 January 2013 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_PISTOLS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== New trailers ==

There's new guns found in the trailer of GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]) 18:06, 30 April 2013 (EST)
[[Image:ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is an AR-15 variant, the same as seen in the trailer 2.]]
[[Image:ar-15 variant 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closer view of the variant.]]
[[Image:assault rifle gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new assault rifle, I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. It seems this is a Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:type 56 gangster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type 56-2 in the hands of a gangster.]]
[[Image:type 56 trevor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor shoots his type 56-2.]]
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v new stock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new stock on Franklin's Mossberg 590 Cruiser.]]

I got some better images of the weapons that I'll be adding to the article. Here's a better shot of the unknown rifle; it looks kinda like a SCAR-H, but there's bits that aren't right.

Looks more like a weird FAL--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:41, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, here's a shot of the pistol used by Michael in the rappelling scene. I can't identify it, but it almost looks to have an orange tip like an airsoft gun and no hammer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:58, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[http://gyazo.com/ca7fae1d3d648ca8a2623bb5adb2bbbf.png?1367374112]] Not sure if it's a Hi-Power or 1911, on Michael's TV. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:11, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm also thinking some kind of short-barreled FAL for the new AR, judging by the magazine and shape of the mag well. It and the Tavor are certainly new and different choices considering GTA's past being dominated by the combo of an AK and M16 variants, which is a good thing. That's four assault rifles altogether now so far (five if the CQBR on concept art shown above is included in the game), so let's hope the other weapon categories have as diverse a selection. And considering how big the weapon selection in [[Red Dead Redemption|RDR]] was, I'm feeling pretty confident about it. Maybe my wish for a P226 could still come to pass after all? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:10, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a higher resolution cropped image of the mystery rifle.

[[File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg]]

It has the heat shield, gas block, and front sight of an M249, the magazine looks more like a belt bag, and the stock looks derived from the fixed stock of the Masada/ACR. The optic is an out-of-scale Elcan SpecterDR and it has a Magpul AFG2 foregrip. The receiver area lacks details, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's some kind of M249-based machine gun. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:15, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Now that you said that I start to see it, but my first bet was FAL, in the end it could just be a butchered MG, the stock doesn't somehow look m249ish to me and the heat shield seems tiny.--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 11:13, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

:After re-watching the trailer, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg light machine gun]. The ammo pouch gets a bit more obvious in motion and it's certainly an ammo pouch, not a 20 round 7.62 magazine. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 04:05, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

::I bet it turns out to be something ''really'' stoopid like an LSAT with a modified handguard. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:34, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

:::That horrified me for a moment, but I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that LSAT is tucked a bit further away then the pool of common firearms that appear in GTA. It will be some monstrosity of the natural order regardless. -[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

Seems to be a new pistol, but I can't ID it.[http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:52, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Could be a beretta. Weird pouch like a 50 rounder or something, but yeah now its definitely an butchered mg. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:35, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Underside of the trigger guard is straight, all Beretta models are rounded downward. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

DRD Tactical Paratus? [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 10:33, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

You mean the one to the left (its more likely an M4 would make sense for a game not centered around gun pron to have a generic well known firearm rather than some obscure one) if you mean the MG probably even more unlikely to me for now its seems like a franke-gun or at least a horribly scaled one. On a side note look at the one in the case the sight seems to be open http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/05/GTA-V-Heists.jpg and definetely a glock held by the guy in the picture little way above http://assets.vr-zone.net/19885/GTA_V_MFT.png -[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:00, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Spartan, gun models in video games can differ from their real life counterparts. It looks like a Beretta to me. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 18:47, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::Which gun are you talking about, the one pictured immediately above named "File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg"? If so you need to look at [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg this] image again, as it clearly shows that what looks like a mag from the side is actually a belt bag. Also you have the fact that the front sight and gas block are a match for a Minimi, and what can be seen of the receier in this grainy image is also pretty close. The only obvious differences are the furniture with the stock and handguard being different, and that the scaling is off. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:13, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
:::Commando, I was actually talking about this pistol: [http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 20:28, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Thats what I already said, since the game obviously has one in it, it's probably a beretta. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:59, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
:I know, I was agreeing with you because Spartan said that it couldn't be a Beretta with the squared trigger guard. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 09:57, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Sorry came of a bit rude , I meant to accentuate the fact that beretta is probably what everyone will think it is in the first place since it is confirmed to be in the game and beretta's have that distinct look of the slide,besides there's no reason to believe its some other gun since GTA's have tried to bring multiple weapons (AK's,AR's), instead of doing the COD thing and putting in several AR based ones, since they usually have a limited pool (like 3 in a category I believe) --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 13:09, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

*I was almost going to say it looked like a [[SIG SG 552|SIG552]], but the straight-edge magazine (rather than curved) says otherwise. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 02:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/GrandTheftAutoV/1280%20(1).jpg Looks like a 1911 or Hi-Power in Michael's hand. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:42, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

I can almost guaranty that the handgun above is another Beretta. If you look closely you can see the exposed barrel from the cutaway slide and you can barely make out the step in at the end of the barrel which a characteristic shared among all 92-series handguns.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 16:02, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

New pictures of guns in GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]

[[Image:ar-15 variant gta v 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A very close view of the AR-15 variant.]]
[[Image:GTAV_RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A RPG-7 based of the Airtronic RPG-7.]]
[[Image:gta v m134 without green camo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The handheld GE M134 without it's green finition.]]
[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
[[Image:gta v lmg (maybe M249).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the AR-15 variant, this time with a new LMG.]]
[[Image:franklin's beretta 92fs.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin's Beretta.]]
does anyone notice that Franklins Beretta has a Glock trigger guard? --[[User:Policerlhpd|Policerlhpd]] ([[User talk:Policerlhpd|talk]]) 03:57, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v night.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin at night with his Mossberg 590 Cruiser. I guess this is his favorite weapon.]]
[[Image:gta v ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the AR-15 variant. Last time I put it here.]]
[[Image:gta v mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the Mossberg.]]
:[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
:That's a camera. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 08:40, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yup camera 99% (since there is the same one in the SUV), seems that this game will sport gun customization at least color, the green Tavor,the green mini, and now the green shotty. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:26, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

I see a lot of influence from [[Heat]]. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 03:20, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah probably, but that is the trend in general with GTA's they put in references to movies and pop culture all the time. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:04, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

O yea, I know. This isn't my first GTA game by far. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

It's even right in the game, this time. According to an in-depth preview I watched on YouTube, Michael takes his ideas for heists directly from the game universe's versions of such movies. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:30, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

So is rockstar going to release the preview cause, all I have found right now is people talking for an hour about it .--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 04:50, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:They haven't released any public gameplay demos, no. At least none that I've seen yet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:20, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:As soon as they do, the media's going to be all over it. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 17:22, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a clearer picture of the pistol Franklin is holding in a previous screenshot.

[[File:Gtav pistol franklin.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Looks like some kind of cross between a Beretta and a Desert Eagle. It might be the "pistol .50" being offered as preorder DLC. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Seems like a different gun from the one in the above, I mean this probably is just a horrible DE, maybe work in progress, although GTA was never on top in weapons department. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:33, 14 June 2013 (EDT

http://www.gtav.net/screenshots/ - collection of official screenshots, might contain some weapons not already talked about. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

== Gameplay Video ==

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/09/first-grand-theft-auto-v-gameplay-video/

Go ahead and spot 'em. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:58, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

Dammit, Rockstar, take my money already! At 3:15, I can see an AW-type sniper rifle, a multi-shot grenade launcher (it looks similar to the hybrid grenade launcher in [[Resident Evil (2002 VG)|Resident Evil Remake]]), and a roll of dynamite in the weapon wheel. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:12, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png Got a screencap of Franklin with a tan M82A1M.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article on GTA V Gunplay ==
Found this article about the evolution of GTA V's gunplay on GTA Place. [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_v/b/xbox360/archive/2013/07/09/grand-theft-auto-v-gun-combat.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:39, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== New picture. ==

[[File:GTA5UNKNOWNPIST2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Bonshomme|Bonshomme]] 14:00, 10 July 2013 (CDT)

Is that seriously a rail on the side of the slide? [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 05:27, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

::Okay, I'm definitely not getting this game! Rockstar has always failed with the guns department (except in Max Payne 3), and that thing looks absolutely hideous. I'm done with the GTA series... Maybe when someone makes a skin mod for the guns, I'll get a copy... -.- --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 08:50, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Good. That leaves a copy for me. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::As if there will not be enough copies to go around, eh? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::While you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I always consider gun accuracy a +1 for me, incorrect weapon details isn't really much of a reason to not buy a game IMO (hell, I still got my copy of BO1). Again you are entitled to your opinion.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 11:06, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::: While I'm glad you won't be playing the game so as to avoid running into some joyless bother online, it seems to me more likely that the gun is a supposed to be some manner of TDI Kard, than whatever 1911/glock designed solely to offend your sensibilities you think it is. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::You have been playing too much Black Ops 2 if you think there is anything about that remotely resembling a Kard. It obviously has a conventional pistol layout with a slide, and the frame and general outline suggests a 1911. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:25, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Well, you know what they say: opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. I'm just sayin' you can't deny the fact that that... ''THING'' looks like a fugly frankengun, that should never see the light of day. I'm still hopin Rockstar has upped their gunplay from previous GTA titles, and made the gunplay (and the guns themselves) in this one a bit more realistic. You know, since they seem to be makin' this game another ground-breakin' masterpiece... Plus, I don't play with naive fanboys... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::If you would take the time to look at the trailer and use your words rather than skip to some nonsense about Black Ops 2, a game I haven't played not that it even matters, you might notice that Franklin uses the same pistol later in the trailer, his is fitted with an extended magazine and is seemingly firing on full auto, so, my suggestion that it's TDI Kard, I thought, might make a bit more sense than just losing your mind and writing off a whole title based on the appearance of a single handgun in the game. I can see how that might read as naivete though, I've had the wool pulled over my eyes and have been tricked into accepting a game in spite of the massive flaws it's exhibited in the design of one of it's firearms in a few seconds of footage and a screenshot or two, right?--[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 12:27, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::Yes. Btw, are you directing that comment to me or Commando552? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 16:45, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::At least some of it was directed at me so will address that part first. If your only evidance for it being a Kard is that it fires on full auto, then you should know that there are many other production pistols that are capable of full auto fire, not to mention the fact that it is possible to convert pistols to full automatic. Regardless of this, it is a game where they can give a gun whatever characteristics they choose so whether or not it is depicted as firing in full auto means nothing in real terms. Secondly, I have to say again it looks absolutely nothing like a Kard. If you can't see this then there is nothing that I can say to change your mind, but when I look at it I see absolutely nothing about the gun that suggests they based anything off of the Kard. If you put a gun to my head and made me take a guess at what it is meant to be I would probably say I highly customised (or very poorly modeled) full auto Glock, or maybe something like an Arsenal Strike One (which is available in FA/burst versions) but the shape is not really anything like one, it is just reminiscent of one if the "rail" on the front of the slide was actually the front slide serrations. In general can everyone chill out a bit about this game, we could do without the GTA talk pages degrading into a bitch fest like the COD ones historically have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:51, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I have to agree with Commando on the fact that it looks nothing like a Kard. Maybe a fuse of a badly-rendered Glock and a I9II... I also have to agree with Commando on the latter; regardless of my opinion on the possible depiction of guns/gunlay, there's no doubt that GTA V is going to be a great game (knowing Rockstar). Altough I still stand by my comment about not acquiring the game in the future, I realize that I shouldn't have been so outspoken about it, especially here, on the IMFDB. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 22:25, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
Well, look at MoH:WF, a game with accurate gun play but pretty mediocre everywhere else. Your opinion is yours, but what about Read Dead Redemption?[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:38, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Well don't get me wrong. I care about other elements besides gunplay such as gameplay and story. And as for RDR it was pretty accurate aside from a few minor mistakes.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 12:05, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::I agree with you, RDR was, and still is, pretty awesome. I still play it with my friends sometimes. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
Speaking of rails on the slide, it's been confirmed that we get weapon AND car customization to a pretty nice degree. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy the stories and the messages Rockstar provides in their games. But I've never been a fan of the GTA-gunplay. I'll be going for Saints Row IV this fall, instead of this. At least they don't even TRY to make the game realistic, so the gunplay is WAAAAY over the top. But that just makes it fun. PS. I enjoyed MOH:W... well, to a certain degree.--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Well, the gunplay that we've seen in the trailer (and confirmed in interviews) actually comes much more from Max Payne 3. You can run and gun without needing to aim and slow your movement, as well as switch between hard lock, soft lock, and full free aim in the options to suit your play style. You've still got the cover shooting and blindfiring, but you can actually be mobile in gunfights. There's also new options like being able to get in and out of a car while staying low to take cover behind it, as well as entering and exiting a car already shooting. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:33, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Has anyone considered that the pistol above could be a placeholder for something more real.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 15:40, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Its a possibility but given how we're two months away from release its unlikely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't think it is a placeholder, but I think there is a possibility that it is a bug where the wrong texture is on the model or it is using the low detail distance model or something, as there are several inconsistencies that make not sense. Firstly you have the fact that there is what appears to be a rail (which is scaled way too small) on the side of the slide. Then you have those weird horizontal black lines at the front of the slide and frame. Assuming that the black square at the back is meant to be the slide serrations, they span across both the slide and the top of the frame, which I have never seen on a real pistol. There are generally also lines all over the place on both the slide and frame which have no business being there on either a real gun, or a gun that is suggested by the silhouette of this. To top it off it also looks like it is ejecting rifle sized brass, but this is really the least of its problems. To me this gun looks ''so'' bad that it must be an error or something. It isn't just low detailed or simplified, or with random parts switched out for aesthetics, it actually appears deliberately FUBAR'd for no apparent reason. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:17, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I'm inclined to agree with Commando. All the guns on the page are designed relatively accurately except this one, which makes me think it's a texture bug. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:22, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

The Pistol is This ? Houge 1911 Avenger System - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:48, 6 August 2013 (JST)
[[File:1911 Avenger System.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hogue 1911 Avenger System]]

== AR 15 reloading ==

Did anyone notice in the new gameplay video that when Franklin pulls the charging handle of his AR15, a empty shell falls ?

Does that means that his gun jammed, or Rockstar Games made a shell fall each time the charging handle is pulled ? [[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 10 July 2013 (GMT)

:Probably the latter. And sign your posts by typing four tildes after them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:32, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

: It seems like they're doing the same thing as Metal Gear Solid 4, where Snake always racks the charging handle (ejecting an unfired round if it's a mid-mag reload) to chamber a fresh round after inserting the new magazine. This lets them stay realistically detailed while avoiding the +1 confusing that more casual players would have; keep it simple. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:23, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
::It really is kinda stupid and kinda lazy for animating a reload. Instead of programing someone doing nothing when you do a mid mag reload, they just left the reload animation program run, and I think the extra round coming out is really for the Hollywood effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:02, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
:: It's easier and less resource intensive to add a simple model of a cartridge flying out and use the same animation every time. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:01, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
Didn't he pull the charging handle a bit too far? [[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 16:20, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
::Looks pretty normal to me [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:06, 17 July 2013 (EDT)

Wouldn't also be more confortable to just hit the bolt release ? If doing a mid mag reload, nothing to do because a round is chambered, but it seems more natural to me to just hit the bolt release than racking the charging handle. [[User:Zebracherub|Zbracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 06:05, 28 July 2013 (GMT)

:It would, but this is GTA, where any random joe can hop in and know how to pilot a fighter plane or kill hundreds of people at a time without Homeland Security (or NOOSE, as they're called in-game) locking the city down like Guantanamo Bay NS, so it's not that big a deal IMO. Besides, I'd say this is just Rockstar showing off and proving they're still the pimps of the gaming industry. Aaargh! Why won't September 17th get here sooner?! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:08, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Theres lots of screen shots on the official site, some with weapons (an MP5 being fired by a SWAT member from an SUV). As for the flying part I thought they confirmed only Trevor is good at flying, it is possible there are missions the others learn to do that, SA had them, and we don't really know Niko didn't have any background in flying, Vercetti had little background at all and he was pretty old. As for the killing part most games have that I mean look at shooters even if we ignore the regeneration its quite improbable that one men can take out 20 in open shootout. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:32, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

:Nope, all three characters can operate any vehicle in the game, each one is just going to be better in one area than the others. This was confirmed by Rockstar in a Q&A posted on TGTAP forums. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

== CTAR-21 ==

I only noticed after editing the G11 to a CTAR-21, but does nayone know if this is meant to be the same gun just in different builds?
[[File:GTAVPossibleAUG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:GTAV TAR-21.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
From the fact that it is someone using the gun firing from a helicopter, at another helicopter, I would assume that this is the same piece of gameplay just with altered models. The confusing thing though is that the picture with the better correctly looking CTAR-21 is from November last year, as opposed to the crappy modded for no reason Tavor which is from a recent gameplay trailer. This would suggest that either the recent gameplay trailers used a '''very''' out of date build, or they deliberately messed with the weapons to make them less correct at some point during development, I would guess for legal reasons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:05, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
: It's fully possible that they altered the models to make them look different purely because they liked it better that way. They're making entertainment that looks good, not real-life gun porn. Aesthetic considerations are important. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:43, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
This is from the multiplayer trailer. It's definitely not in the TAR-21 family.
[[File:Gta5 online 32.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

A new screenshot was released showing a closer shot of the Tavor and it seems to have a P90-style fore-end.

[[File:GTA5-Tavor-Helicopter.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:06, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

== New Pictures ==

Two new photos have been released of a sniper rifle and that AP Pistol. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtav10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:gtav11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, I need to work at getting some caps from the new multiplayer trailer. But the apparent CTAR-21 (known in-game as the Advanced Rifle) actually doesn't really look like said gun in the final game except in the barest sense.

== New SMG ==

Thanks to iNero from GTA Forums for the picture. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:40, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtasmg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks like an oversized MP5A3.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 18:16, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
:: Highly doubt that. The only part of the shape that really matches an MP5A3 is the stock, and it has a short, straight magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Well as for the short mag, Rockstar said that weapon customization is going to be featured. So maybe the 10 round (civilian legal?) magazines is going to be an option. Also straight MP5 mags do exist. [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:47, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Straight MP5 magazines are older ones, and that doesn't match the pattern. The magwell is also too large for the magazine and it's sticking out at an awkward angle. And again, there's absolutely nothing that actually resembles an MP5 except for maybe the stock. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Looking at the SMGs currently documented on the site, I think it now looks similar to a [[FAMAE SAF]]
[[Image:SAF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAE SAF - 9x19mm]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:33, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Who labeled it a CZ Scorpion EVO 3? Looks a little like in the lower receiver/trigger guard area, but the rest is more MP5/SAF.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:23, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

:It looks like an MP5 with a sort of super-short G3 handguard. There's a closeup of it on one of the loading screens. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:00, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== M82? ==

Is it just me, or does the rifle in the first picture of the "Unknown Sniper Rifle" section (the one Franklin is holding on the roof) look a lot like an M82 variant? it has the muzzle brake and what we see of the body has the general shape. I don't have the pic now, but a recently released photo shows the sniper rifle on the weapon wheel photo and it's NOT the same gun. It actually looks closer to an Accuracy International rifle. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 03:39, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

It's a Barrett all right, check this screencap.
http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png
[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:38, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

== GTA Online Rifle ==
Found this over on Grand Theft Wiki.

[[File:GTAOnlineRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

They have it identified as a SCAR-L, but it's hard to make out. General shape is right for a SCAR, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:58, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== MK18 artwork ==
I separated it from the LR300 section since they clearly aren't the same weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:55, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

==Smith and Wesson M&P or Springfield XD? Can't identify.==
A person on another forum posted this pic of Michael holding a nickle plated handgun but the view is only from the top. I don't think it's a Glock because of the way the ejection port looks but I might be wrong. I can't see an exposed hammer. Any help?

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/fullsize/344.jpg

It could be a colored "AP Pistol". Paint jobs are among the weapon customization options. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:39, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: I don't think so. The side rails on the slide are so thick that they would be visible in this image. On GTA Forums there are suggestions that it's a S&W semi-auto. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 07:59, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
::The side rails on the AP pistol are just on the texture and not on the model aren't they? With a new skin the AP pistol could look totally different. Either way there isn't enough to go on from that shot to determine what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:17, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
:: It's difficult to tell. One other thing that makes me less convinced that it's the AP Pistol is that this gun has noticeable sights (The AP Pistol distinctly lacks them in all screenshots), and it seems to have a shorter barrel. It's almost definitely a separate gun, unless the customization options are more in-depth than we thought. Another suggestion might be a Taurus 24/7 or similar, as that gun is striker-fired, definitely comes in that finish, and has a similar sight profile from the top. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Side thought - is the AR that Franklin is holding missing the end of the buttstock or is that texture clipping? --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 15:10, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: Pretty sure that's just clipping. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

== Game Guide leak ==

Pics of the official game guide are turning up online.
http://imgur.com/a/ov4Rc#ZQjg5L3
http://imgur.com/a/vnbVM

No pics of the SMG or LMG sections yet. If you search for GTA V ammunation on youtube you'll find offscreen footage of a guy walking around the gun shop. You can see some sort of RPK clone on the wall.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:53, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
: No RPK, but the early game machine gun (the "MG") is pretty much just a PKM. Virtually all of the weapons in the game are already on the page. There's also an Assault Shotgun (which some say looks like a UTS 15 with a box magazine to resemble an AA-12), a sawed-off pump-action that may also be based on a Mossberg 500/590, the Combat Pistol (silver pistol held by Michael in the recently released trio pic, which reminds me of a Taurus PT 24/7 or Ruger P-series like the P97 with a stainless slide), and a Taser. The "unknown pistol" in the article is the PT92, which is apparently chambered in .45 ACP with a standard 12 round magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 00:05, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

== New SMG ==
This is an exclusive unlock for joining the Rockstar social club.

[[File:SC SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Not sure what it is myself. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:31, 13 September 2013 (EDT)

As far as I can see, it's 100% fictional. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 05:06, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yeah, seems so. And ugly as hell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:08, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:I see a birdcage flash hider, and the rest looks like the Halo 2/3 Battle Rifle. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 00:11, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

::Now that you mentioned that, I looked up what Halo battle rifle looks like, and I think this submachine gun might have also borrowed some design decisions from Halo's submachine gun. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:It also has a resemblance to the RCP-120 from Perfect Dark. [[User:RadiumMetal|RadiumMetal]] ([[User talk:RadiumMetal|talk]]) 17:21, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

== Barrett M-107 A1? ==

[[File:GTA5SNIPER1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

The muzzle brake and the right side of the gun, and also the color is very similar to the M-107 A1 than the AS50, is it real?

Check out the Gyazo link in my posts above. If you pause at the right moment, the rifle is a Barrett with a raised full length rail.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:36, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

== Combat Pistol ==

After unlocking the Combat Pistol in the game and using it quite a bit I'm thinking that it resembles some sort of HK pistol. Initially I thought it was like a USP Compact but I've thought it might be more like a HK45 or HK45c. I'm not sure though as at first I thought it was a Px4. Anyone else have any ideas what it could be? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 10:39, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
:The [http://gta.wikia.com/Weapons_in_GTA_V GTA Wiki] lists the combat pistol as the Taurus (well, they say Beretta but we know what they mean), or is that not the case in the final game? Also, that page has a picture of the assault shotgun, which appears to be an [[UTAS UTS-15]] which has been slightly messed with and had a box mag stuck on the bottom. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::The basic pistol is the Taurus not the combat pistol. They list the basic pistol as a P99 so it could be that the combat pistol is a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:53, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::I concur, the Combat Pistol definitely looks like a P99 to me. Glad they didn't rehash the 1911 or Glock again for the umpteenth time (not that I don't love 1911s and Glocks, I very much do ;D ). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Having got a decent look at it today I don't think it's a P99. It's got an exposed hammer and the general shape it more like a Beretta Px4 having taken a much closer look at it. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 18:45, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm only going by a tiny thumbnail (don't have the game) but it looks a bit like a [[CZ-G2000]] with a less sever angles around the trigger. This is pretty similar to the PX4, but I think it is a closer match as it has a square trigger guard and doesn't have an ambi safety (thumbnail I've seen is of the right side which lacks a safety). The profiling of the slide is also closer and the serrations look the same design (although there is one less band at both the front and back). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:37, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'd rather say a Px4 at this point. I've seen it up close (I DO have the game) and it looks a lot more like it was based on the Px4. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:06, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::I'm going to say having spend about half an hour moving the camera around trying to get really close shots of it that it is a Px4 more than anything else. The slide profile matches, the frame matches, the back of it matches. The only thing that doesn't match is the width of the slide serrations but that could just be a texture choice. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 12:53, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to venture a guess and say it's a combo of a Px4 and a P99, with the Px4 traits shining out the most. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:05, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know who it was who put the combat pistol as the H&K P2000 but it looks nothing like that. If it looks like any H&K pistol it's either the HK45c or the P30. I'm still leaning towards the Beretta Px4 though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 08:30, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

Picked up the guide yesterday evening while I was out and the "Combat Pistol" shown in it matches the general shape of the P2000, actually. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:20, 29 September 2013 (EDT)
:No one else sees a bit of the PT-909 in it?
[[File:Tau.jpg|thumb|none|800px]]
Remember no gun will be an exact match. They're all tweaked.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 18:10, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/4758e01a97e67d85191a02b267d98a60.png
The trigger guard and rail look P2000, but the rest resembles the Px4 to me.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:13, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

== Combat MG ==
It's not a Stoner, but rather an M60/M249 hybrid. Basically the stock of an M60, while everything in front of is is M249. Making appropriate changes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

== Guns on the TV programs ==

Killed a bit of time as Michael and watched the TV at his house. One of the channels was a FIB program called 'The Underbelly of Paradise'. One of the highlights was a few weapons on a table and one of the guns was a SIG P220-series pistol. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 21:57, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

There's also a brief shot of an M1911A1 cycling on an old-style crime show/movie and if you watch Jimmy playing ''Righteous Slaughter'' (a CoD/MoH/BF parody) in his room, the game character uses an XCR and a stainless steel Desert Eagle wielded tandem with a knife in the Harris stance. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

And the preview for the in-game movie ''The Simian'', which I saw while hanging out with Jimmy at a movie theater, has several shots of Hunter attack helicopters and at least one clear shot of the M230 chain gun on one of them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:25, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

== What's up with the Carbine Rifle changes? ==

Uhhh... Guys? The new Carbine really looks like the LR-300 and I thought it was agreed on. I don't know why we needed the change. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 20:03, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't the one who changed it, but I 100% agree with the change. First off, it isn't an LR-300 as the overriding unique feature about the LR-300 is that it doesn't have a buffer tube. This gun has a buffer tube. That is before we even get into the fact that the game gun has different furniture and a VLTOR MUR receiver rather than the unique LR-300 one. As with most of the weapons in the game this appears to be a hybrid gun at best, so it can't really be given a proper ID other than a custom AR-15. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:12, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:The assault rifle looks like a Hecker & Koch HK416 to me. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 8:43 AM (EST)
::It isn't, as far as I can tell there is not a single part on this that matches the HK416: the upper has the brass deflector built into the front of the forward assist like on a VLTOR MUR; the magazine fence on an HK416 is rounded whereas on this it is flat making it look more like one of the many different billet lowers that are available from various manufacturers; the stock is an ACE stocj which appears to be incorrectly depicted as extendable; the handguard is possibly a Daniel Defence MFR, but if not is definitely isn't a piston HK416 one. None of these parts are really perfect matches, but seeing the quality of the models on the other guns this isn't really to be expected. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:36, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Hmm...after looking through the M16 gallery, and the Colt AR-15 identification guide, and doing some googling, It seems like it COULD POSSIBLY be a hybrid of a Daniel Defense MFR and ZM LR-300, while trying to look like a HK416 (beefy handguard and short barrel), I can't shake it, to me it screams Franken-HK416, don't know why. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 1:02 PM (EST)
::::Look at the forwards assist and brass deflector area of this gun:[[File:GTAV_AR15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Note how the forward assist is a large flat faced wedge with the plunger coming out the bottom half of it, with a brass deflector attached at the top front corner. Now compare that to the below image:[[File:NovesDiplomat.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Noveske Rifleworks N4 Diplomat with VLTOR Modstock, EOTech sight and Surefire M900 weapon-light fore-grip - 5.56x45mm]]Notice they are a match. This is a unique thing that is only found on VLTOR MUR and VIS upper receivers (one pictured above is a VIS, MUR is the version without a monolithic handguard) and is due to the forward assist being able to be removed and replaced with a blanking plate fitted only with a brass deflector. Both the HK416 and the Z-M variants used different upper receiver designs to this, so it isn't either of them. I doubt that this is any factory gun in particular, it could be that the modellers just picked and chose various parts and stuck them together to make a gun they liked the look of, or it could be modelled off of a real custom gun that somebody has made. I don't get why people seem to think this is a HK416 (not just you, have seen people all over the place call it that) if the only thing they are going on is the fact it has a short barrel and a chunky handguard, there are a hell of a lot of guns that fit this description and are a closer match than an HK416, like this [[Media:POF P-416-11.JPG|Patriot Ordnance Factory P416]] for example. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:All the guns are hybrids, and the game's artists won't be familiar with the internals so I would go with the gun that is most similar in look, even if the similarities are all on the cosmetic parts and the dissimilarities affect the internals. Also the Combat SMG is an MP5 hybrid, not a Scorpion.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:15, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== pics of all guns except special edition weapons ==

I went and got the game guide. Here are pics of all the guns.

http://s13.postimg.org/5humxnsfr/gta_Weap.png

[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 15:23, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== ANALYSIS: Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 (Airsoft) ==

I've identified the firearm "Carbine Rifle", I analyzed it done here

[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-001.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]
[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-002.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]

Ace skeleton stock:

[[Image:Ace Stock Medium1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ace skeleton Stock]]

Reference: http://jagprecision.com/daniel-defense-m4-mfr-series-from-socom-gear/

PaulD21x (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2013 (VE)

Nailed it, nice.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:58, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:Not really, look a couple of sections above. The handguard is a Daniel Defence MUR (or at least a close approximation of one), but the upper receiver appears to be a VLTOR and the lower is not a DD one. Also you have the fact that the stock appears to be an Ace ARFX-E "Entry" stock which is the short one but this is fixed and not retractable, whereas this is extended out on the buffer tube like a regular AR-15 carbine style stock (I assume this is more due to ignorance rather than it being based on something else). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:43, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:I think it is a customized gun with a Daniel Defense MFR handguard, VLTOR MUR upper, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, the lower looks to be a NorthTech Billet receiver (with de fix trigger guard), the front BUIS is like a Troy Front sight and the rear a A2 type but simplified (or an unknow model), Hogue pistol grip (or any other model) and the ACE stock (but we can see they are nothing to move it because it is a fix stock and not a telescopic, an error). But it is not a basic model for me. --[[User:ArmaLite15|armalite15]] ([[User talk:Armalite15|talk]])

== "Combat Pistol" ==

Me again, noting that you guys missed a pistol.

Of course, this pistol is simply called the "Combat Pistol" and resembles the Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in a way. I have no way of getting screens and I haven't seen any so far. I haven't progressed far enough into the game to unlock it, but it can be viewed at the Ammunation stores if anyone had the game and wants to look. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:12, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
:No, we haven't missed it. Read a couple discussions above, we're still trying to come to a consensus on what it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:51, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

Ah, I see sorry. I missed that discussion. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:03, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

== Phone shots ==

So I hear you could take snaps using the in-game smart phone. Would it be possible to get some screenshots that way? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:37, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure, you have to sign up to Rockstar Social Network to do it, and I ''bet'' it watermarks them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:45, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
::Actually there is no watermark, but these pictures are only 640x360, and have a filter added that makes them look like low quality analog picture.--[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 15:34, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't think you can take phone pictures while armed, although you might get some from cops or security guards with guns, and take photos in the Ammu-Nation.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 21:30, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== In case you're wondering... ==

Cleetus' second hunting mission is bugged (hopefully forever) and when he tells you to hunt the last Elk it lets you wander the entire map with no possibility of triggering a police alert, meaning you can wander around in the military base to your hearts' content. You can keep anything you take by just causing an explosion (''anywhere'' on the map, but the jet's missiles don't count) which will spook the elk and let you quit out of the mission. I can't find anywhere to store the tank that Trevor can own, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:49, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm gonna have to exploit that. I've tried constantly to get a Titan, but I can never get it off the ground before a tank blows me up. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:54, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== Can we just settle on the "Carbine Rifle" by describing the components that it's constructed from? ==
It's obvious that it's not any named product (like the DDM4 it's currently IDed as but clearly is not), so can we just call it a custom AR-15 (like we do other franken ARs), ID it by its individual components, then be done with it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:30, 3 November 2013 (EST)

Moving these here for now, since I've changed the Carbine Rifle entry to reflect that it is ''not'' a DDM4.
[[File:DDM4sbr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DDM4 300 SBR with Magpul MOE stock, Magpul PMAG magazine, and KAC vertical foregrip - 300 BLK]]
[[Image:AF02-F-OT-ARFXE-ARULE-5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ace Skeleton Stock]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:53, 19 November 2013 (EST)

== Beach Bum pistol ==

A new handgun will be added in the next update/free DLC, called the "SNS"

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/xbox360/gta5/screens/gta5_269_605x.jpg

Probably a movie reference, perhaps it's a Walther PP of some form.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2013 (EST)

Beach Bum pack is out, the SNS pistol looks like a Heckler & Koch P7 M13 fitted with wood grips and a round trigger guard.[[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 20:01, 19 November 2013 (GMT)

== Gun pic on Social Club ==

Close view of the most used gun can be seen in the Social Club.

[[File:SocialClubAR15.jpg]]

This is a Northtech Billet lower, VLTOR Upper, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip but the upper is strange, it is raised up like the HK-416. And the handguard is very close to the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0..[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 19:43, 17 November 2013

== "Carbine Rifle" mounting an image ==

Since I edited the image from Photoshop, is a mixture: that's to HK-416 - Northtech Billet lower, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, Ace Skeleton Stock And the handguard is the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0
[[File:GTAVCARBINERIFLEMIXTURE.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 21:23, 21 November 2013

Is that a Pimpmygun pistol grip? [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:06, 21 November 2013 (EST)

No, I'm pretty sure he just Shopped in the grip from the Social Club image above. Also, if you wanted to create a composite, you could have just done an image search for the actual lower receiver used (I found plenty on Bing), because as has been previously stated, '''not a single component on this gun corresponds to the HK416'''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:39, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:There is possibly part of an HK416 potentially in there, as in the social club image you can see that the shape of the top rail at the rear steps down ahead of the charging handle like an HK416, which is not the case with a VLTOR MUR which the rest of the receiver is. This composite photoshop just uses a vanilla HK416 upper though which is not correct for the game gun. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:15, 22 November 2013 (EST)

It's all moot now, because I've solved the image problem. Found this during a Bing search for "gta v carbine rifle".

[[File:GTA5-Carbine-Rifle-Example.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The in-game "Carbine Rifle" - 5.56x45mm]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:On seeing that, it looks like it has an HK416 gas block as well. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 22 November 2013 (EST)

== Combat MG ID and non-player weapons ==
This is a response to Ultimate94 recently changing the MK46 Mod 0 ID back to Mod 1. The Mod 1 lacks a 12 o'clock Picatinny, using the M249 heat shield instead. This was done, AFAIK, to facilitate the re-inclusion of the carry handle. The Combat MG has a Picatinny rail in this position (albeit a low profile one), which would therefor make it a Mod 0. The weapon render linked to on the GTA Wiki is far too small to discern any details from, so doesn't prove anything.

Why were the non-player weapons added back to the main categories? Every other GTA game on IMFDb is formatted with non-player weapons in a separate "Other" category. What's the objection to this page being the same?

The artwork of Michael holding the MK18 doesn't appear in the game as a loading screen (unlike the Type 56 artwork), so it should be deleted from the page. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:42, 30 December 2013 (EST)

== Valentines Day M1928 Thompson ==
So there's going to be a free Chicago Typewriter coming up.
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/news/article/52186/Coming-this-Friday-The-GTA-Online-Valentine-s-Day-Massacr[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:23, 11 February 2014 (EST)

It's classed as an LMG in-game, with superior stats compared to the PKM (except for mag capacity), making it a good choice for anyone who hasn't unlocked the PKM, or someone who can live without the extra ammo capacity or aim-down-sight zoom (Tommy Gun doesn't get an optic) until they unlock the M249/M60 hybrid --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (EST)

You can acquire a PKM in a few places right at the start of the game if you know where to look, though. Inside the gate at the Vagos' compound in East LS, for example (as long as you aren't wearing Families colors, you'll have plenty of time to get in and out before their threats turn into gunfire... usually). You just can't buy any mods for it yet. Quite a few weapons are ripe for the picking if you know where to look, actually. Type 56, MP5, MGL, AW, Minigun (''extremely'' hard to get as it's inside Fort Zancudo, though), Super Shorty, RPG, Assault Shotgun (another hard one to get, as it's pretty deep inside the Altruists' mountain compound), grenades, Jerry can, and Molotov cocktails. The Mossberg Cruiser can be acquired quite easily from police as long as you escape your wanted level quick, or if you happen upon a chase and follow until it erupts into a shootout (the criminals usually win LOL). A Carbine Rifle can also be effortlessly acquired from an isolated Merryweather mercenary at their LS Port "turf" if one is careful (I wouldn't advise trying to get one from the LSPD officers lingering around LS International, though). I like having the Thompson in the game, don't get me wrong, but it's largely a gimmick weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 05:44, 8 March 2014 (EST)

== Removing images ==

I'm in favor of keeping the PKM image on the page, but only because this page is currently incomplete and it's the only screenshot available. I expect a better image will be available when more screencaps are available and the page is completed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:49, 25 February 2014 (EST)

== Cut weapons ==

So I just found this, worthy of mention in the discussion page at least:
http://gtaforums.com/topic/678397-the-gta-v-beta-hunt/page-6

In addition to several melee weapons, there are some icons for the XM25, a DMR variant of the AR-15 (seems to be referred to as M14), a HK21, and a SCAR-H.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:44, 26 February 2014 (EST)

A poster there states they weren't cut, but rather just aren't enabled for player use. So maybe Rockstar is holding them back as future DLC? I'd love to have that AR-15 sniper rifle (which resembles an M110A1, which, AFAIK, is an M110 with the fixed stock replaced with a collapsible one). I always felt the next upgrade from the bolt action should have been a semi-auto .308, with the Barrett placed in the slot with the MGL, RPG, and Minigun, and made to do more damage to vehicles. The stock on the SCAR's in-game render looks like it was taken from the LSAT machine gun, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:29, 26 February 2014 (EST)

== New upcoming DLC ==
The "Heavy Pistol" and "Special Carbine" will be released next week.
[[File:GTAV-HeavyPistol-SpecialCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
The carbine is clearly a G36K, but the pistol seems to be a 1911 of some kind. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:23, 27 February 2014 (EST)

From looking at the gun itself and at the Social Club page, I think the pistol looks a lot more like a 1911 than an FNX-45, or maybe some sort of Kimber-esque thing. The grip and grip panels look far more 1911 than FN. Cheers, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
*EDIT: here's a link that shows the Social Club image, and shows how it more resembles either a regular 1911 or some sort of Kimber-style tactical model: http://gta.wikia.com/Heavy_Pistol [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

It most resembles a [[Springfield_Armory_1911_Series#Springfield_Armory_Tactical_Response_Pistol_.28TRP.29|Springfield TRP Operator]] with the slide derived from the OTs-33 to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:44, 4 March 2014 (EST)

definitely looks like a Springfield TRP operator with mabye some cz97 http://www.lipseys.net/images/CZ01411.jpg?maxwidth=520--[[User:Anarchy66660|Anarchy66660]] ([[User talk:Anarchy66660|talk]]) 22:03, 4 March 2014 (EST)

That's definitely a TRP Operator frame, the new pistol doesn't resemble an FNP very much. The slide looks like a flatter version of a normal 1911.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:43, 4 March 2014 (EST)

== Heavy Pistol ==

Could the heavy pistol be an Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911?
[[File:Steel_Full_Rail_Gun_5.jpg|thumb|none|350px|]]
The slide is very flat like the heavy pistol, they both have the full dust cover rail, wide rear cocking serrations, and lack of front cocking. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2014 (EST)

I think you got it, looks dead on to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:01, 8 March 2014 (EST)
:It is pretty close, but I think that is just coincidence. There are a number of differences that suggest it is not based on this gun such as the fibre optic sights, different numbers of slide serrations, lack of a beavertail (or in fact a grip safety at all by the look of it), a seemingly changeable curved backstrap, slanted rather than vertical trigger guard front, different grips, and most definitively the fact that it has a single rather than double stack frame. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:29, 8 March 2014 (EST)
::None of the guns in the game are exactly modeled after anything. The Taurus has a different number of slide serrations, a different hammer, etc. Hell, look at the "Desert Eagle." The Heavy Pistol is at least a lot closer to this gun, than the Operator. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:12, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
:::To me it seems much more likely that the guy who made it simply messed around with a standard 1911 rather than modelling it after a relatively obscure custom gun though. To be honest a lot of the gun IDs on this page are pretty far fetched, in particular the so-called "OTs-33 Pernach" which looks absolutely nothing like one (to me this gun actually looks like it is the bottom half of a 2nd series [[Colt Woodsman]] with some tactical crap slapped on the top). Weapons which appear to be fictional but bear a vague (possibly coincidental) resemblance to something real should not be definitely listed as this (such as saying that "The Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911, released with the "Business Update" DLC, appears as the Heavy Pistol." which is not really the case). For most of these guns the proper thing to do would be to have the heading for the section be, for example, "Heavy Pistol" and state underneath that it is a 1911 type pistol bearing some similarities to the Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911 but with several notably differences. Similarly for the "Special Carbine", not a single part of that is actually taken from a real Heckler & Koch G36C, it is just a random collection of different parts (some of them real, like the [http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-pistol-grips/id-1/m16-m4-ar15-tactical-ergonomic-pistol-grip.html FAB Defense AG-43 AR-15 pistol grip]) which have been assembled into the vague shape of a G36C--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:17, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
::::I think the SpeCarbine has G36K resemblence in the upper receiver/ handguard and top rail, just a lot more flat than the real thing. The AP pistol definitely has a Woodsman grip, the slide was probably incorrectly based on a Kriss KARD. The frame of the SNS pistol resembles the HK P7M10, too.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:23, 2 April 2014 (EDT)

== Bullpup Rifle ==
It looks like it has a 7.62x39mm AK magazine, so shouldn't it go in the rifles category despite it being classified as an SMG in-game? Same goes for the "Assault SMG", which clearly has a 20-round AR-15 mag. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:18, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think it was put in the SMG category by accident, "Bullpup Rifle" clearly indicates it is going to be classified as an assault rifle. Looks like a hybrid of the QBZ-95 and it's B carbine.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:48, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think that it's a shame that it's a QBZ at all and not the L85 it looked like in one piece of concept art (below) [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
[[File:Gtao-hl-bpr.jpeg]]

== AP Pistol ==

I just saw this on Modern Firearms. http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/scamp-e.html Does anyone else think the AP Pistol looks more like the Colt SCAMP than the OTs-33 Pernach? [[User:Rockinthecasbah|Rockinthecasbah]] ([[User talk:Rockinthecasbah|talk]]) 18:35, 10 April 2014 (EDT)

Can't see any resemblance myself, not that it looks like a Pernach either, but it really, really doesn't look like the SCAMP [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

== Love all the vehicles and weapons as free DLC, I really do, but... ==
It would be nice if we got something other than just pistols and assault rifles. There's already more of those than any other weapon type. I wish they'd add some of the cut weapons detailed a few sections up (M110-style sniper rifle, XM25-style grenade launcher, etc.) in addition to new stuff. Would love an MP7A1 and a Carl Gustav rocket launcher, for example. Maybe add some new weapon attachments like laser sights and different optics. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:06, 13 May 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Grand Theft Auto V

2014-05-14T14:56:54Z

Sandymon: /* Bullpup Rifle */

== new page and type 56-2 ==

Hi!
I made this kinda quick. Didn't have a lot of time to check errors.
I'm relatively new to the editing in this site. So if any veteran
around with more knowledge could help improve the article would be indeed
great.
When it comes to the weapon, I believe it's a Norinco Type 56-2 since the stock
looks like the one in a Type 56-2. Otherwise correct if I'm wrong.
Also one of the guys seems to have a laser sight. Don't know which sort though
[[User:Santos|Santos]] 17:08, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

The rifles seem to have some sort of rail system on them... which I think is a shame--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 10:55, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

:Most likely is the handguard with picatinny rails. The guy knocking on the van leading those other two men, seems to have a laser sight attached to it. This is a handguard is from FAB-Defense. http://www.fab-defense.com/images/big-details/ak-47-1.jpg

One of the screenshots mentions "excellent" trigger discipline, to me it looks like his finger is actually on the trigger as there is a small curve in the shape of the finger, I wouldn't refer to that as excellent trigger discipline. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:42, 1 December 2011 (CST)

:To me it looks like the guy is holding his finger just slightly above the trigger area, not excellent but still better than most games have, to be honest the only game i can remember that had great trigger discipline was MGS4 where Snake kept his finger completely off the triggers of all weapons unless he was aiming them, but i think that since they're both video games, bad trigger discipline can be excused since i doubt developers want to spend who knows how many hours giving every character separate finger animations for trigger discipline, and also there is the fact that the character can have their fingers wrapped around the triggers, but the players have theirs completely off the fire button, so essentially, it's our own 'trigger' discipline that video game characters have (least that's how i see it) we should save the bad trigger discipline arguments for movies.[[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 16:26, 8 March 2012 (CST)
::Add ''[[ArmA 2]]'' to the list of games with excellent trigger discipline. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

== M4? ==

Help to identify; looks like a M4 rifle with longer (?) and suppressed barrel. [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] ([[User talk:Pawelm|talk]]) 13:55, 10 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I would say that it has a shorter barrel than an M4A1. I would say it's a suppressed [[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 14:21, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Suppressor resembles an AAC model which covers more of the barrel than the KAC suppressors we commonly see, so it's possible it could still be an M4. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:10, 10 November 2012 (EST)

:If it was an M4 length barrel, there would be no suppressor left to actually trap the gas to suppress the weapon. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 22:24, 10 November 2012 (EST)

looks like it has the older CAR-15 style stock [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:38, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:What people refer to as CAR-15s (XM177, XM177E1, XM177E2 etc) were fitted with a stock that was made of aluminium with a black polymer coating as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#2nd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. Later Colt carbines up to and including the M4 had a synthetic fiberlite stock as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#3rd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. The easiest way to tell them apart are the vertical reinforcing ribs that are present on the side of the fiberlite stock, which are present in the game gun. As this stock can be found on Mk. 18s, Model 933s and M4s (all of which this gun could be depending on how the suppressor fits) that doesn't really help. However as the gun has the slim handguard rather than the thicker double heat shield M4 handguard, my best guess would be a Mk. 18. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:03, 11 November 2012 (EST)
::What I think he meant was this is the 3rd Gen stock, the four-position plastic, not the newer six-position.--[[User:Sangheili1155|Sangheili1155]] ([[User talk:Sangheili1155|talk]]) 02:43, 12 November 2012 (EST)
I've seen scans that show one of the other characters holding that weapon without a suppressor on it. I'd definitely go with Mk.18 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 01:12, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure that this is why this image is in this section, but I cant believe these animated pictures as validation for the weapons in the game. GTA IV had MANY weapons in the loading screens that for what ever reason never made it to the final product.--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:05, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:Check the [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] page and you'll notice we include loading screen weapons on it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

::If a weapon is in the game and can be identified, then it should be identified. This includes artwork, loading screens, stock footage, in-game posters, whatever; if it's a clear and identifiable shot it's included. Weapons only seen in previews can also be included as long as the image is from a legitimate source and not leaked. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (EST)

Cover for the latest Game Informer magazine. You can see the suppressor is missing but the muzzle and the barrel is missing [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Weapon Selection hope==

So I don't know about most of you, but one of the worst aspects to these games is the frank lack of weapons for which you to use. I am not saying that the game doesn't need 100 different firearms, but there is no need to use the low level weapons once the higher tier weapons are unlocked (compare the Glock and Desert Eagle in GTA IV, how often do you use the Glock after unlocking). If nothing else I hope that this game has at least 3-4 variations in firearm. There are tons of vehicles to choose from, but you dont spend most of your time offing people with cars. Having to use the same repetitive weapon again and again bores me. What are your thoughts?--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:09, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Four or five options of each type sound good to me. I'm hoping we get a silenced pistol again this time. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)

:@Spartan198, exactly! The way I have seen it (for example), in the pistol category there should be a standard (Glock), Hi standard (1911), Burst (Beretta 93R), Special (Silenced [if no ability to customize]), and Magnum (Desert Eagle/Equivilant). Now this is a very basic look, but I think you can catch my drift. Same thing for shotguns where there should be a Double Barrell (For range and/or sawed off), Pump (Mossberg), Semi Auto (Benelli M4), and Automatic (USAS-12/AA-12). You can make any adjustments for which weapons are in which category does not matter. But the differences. --[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 12:45, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Seeing the silenced 56-2s in the reveal; its likely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 01:25, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping to see an [[Ithaca 37]] in this like in San Andreas, being that this is taking place in the same fictional Los Angeles. --[[User:QueenSasha24|QueenSasha24]] ([[User talk:QueenSasha24|talk]]) 04:01, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping for a SIG P226 myself this time around, but with the 92FS, that's looking unlikely. I like Valiant's system of classification, though. Using that system, I'd like to see assault rifles classified like this: an AKMS without a stock (low accuracy, short range), the Type 56 (medium accuracy, short range), the AR-15 variant (high accuracy, medium range), TAR-21 (high accuracy, long range). A grenade launcher attachment (if the weapons are customizable) would be nice, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:38, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

==Trailer 2==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzue74y7A84

The only new weapon I see looks to be an M4 type at 1:15. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:05, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Aaaargh! Why won't videos stream for me? It's been like this for the past 3 days! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:34, 15 November 2012 (EST)

== Trailer #2 Screenshots ==

[[File:Gta5-1.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 platform rifle]]
[[File:Gta5-2.JPG|200px|thumb|none|The handguard is longer than M4-style one]]
[[File:Gta5-3.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 style rifle, looks a bit like a HK416 to me, also the guy on the right has the same, or very similar gun]]

The rifle on the 3rd screencap looks like a HK416 variant (handguard with these thin vents). Also the rifle in 1st and 2nd screenshot seems to be different than the one in the 3rd. It has a black magazine, in games a gun rarely can have a mag swapped out. :D --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:06, 15 November 2012 (EST)

PS sorry for the black bars guys :\ --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:08, 15 November 2012 (EST)

:I'm guessing it is the same rifle in all 3 caps. Also, in the first screencap you can see the distinctive forward assist/brass deflector that is used on VLTOR VIS and MUR upper receivers ([[Media:NovesDiplomat.jpg|here]] is a picture of a Noveske Diplomat with a VIS upper showing the forward assist). Although these uppers are used on Noveske rifles, I don't think this is one as the handguard is wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:22, 15 November 2012 (EST)

It looks like more an AAC Honey Badger (look at the stock and the bolt) than an HK416 or AR-15-like rifle for the 3rd picture. --[[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]])
:Several reasons why I don't think it is a Honey Badger: firstly, the stock on the Honey Badger extend on rails on the side of the receiver like an MP5, as opposed to this where it extends along the buffer tube in typical Colt Carbine fashion; secondly it appears that it has a VLTOR VIS/MUR upper receiver based on the design of the combined forward assist and brass deflector which the Honey Badger doesn't; lastly, even if you disagree that it is a VLTOR upper it definitely has a forward assist, which the Honey Badger does not just having a normal brass deflector. In what way do you think the bolt makes it a Honey Badger they are pretty much the same on a typical AR-15 and a Honey Badger aren't they? (with the exception of the FA serrations, but from these screenshots you cannot tell whether they are there or not.) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:30, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Very usefull thing i found ==

Hey guys i think this thread has everything about Weapons for GTA V, GTA Fans are really great at spotting things http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=532181&st=0
--[[User:Faizanali|Faizanali]] ([[User talk:Faizanali|talk]]) 03:38, 20 November 2012 (EST)
: As a member of GTA Forums, I can reliably say that anything you see there should be taken with the biggest dose of salt in history. Like, something from Big Bone Lick State Park. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 04:06, 20 November 2012 (EST)

== 1911 and Glock ==
A new artwork was revealed, and it has a 1911 and a glock variant. We should put on the main page?--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] ([[User talk:Flavio|talk]]) 15:16, 4 January 2013 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_PISTOLS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== New trailers ==

There's new guns found in the trailer of GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]) 18:06, 30 April 2013 (EST)
[[Image:ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is an AR-15 variant, the same as seen in the trailer 2.]]
[[Image:ar-15 variant 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closer view of the variant.]]
[[Image:assault rifle gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new assault rifle, I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. It seems this is a Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:type 56 gangster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type 56-2 in the hands of a gangster.]]
[[Image:type 56 trevor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor shoots his type 56-2.]]
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v new stock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new stock on Franklin's Mossberg 590 Cruiser.]]

I got some better images of the weapons that I'll be adding to the article. Here's a better shot of the unknown rifle; it looks kinda like a SCAR-H, but there's bits that aren't right.

Looks more like a weird FAL--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:41, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, here's a shot of the pistol used by Michael in the rappelling scene. I can't identify it, but it almost looks to have an orange tip like an airsoft gun and no hammer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:58, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[http://gyazo.com/ca7fae1d3d648ca8a2623bb5adb2bbbf.png?1367374112]] Not sure if it's a Hi-Power or 1911, on Michael's TV. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:11, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm also thinking some kind of short-barreled FAL for the new AR, judging by the magazine and shape of the mag well. It and the Tavor are certainly new and different choices considering GTA's past being dominated by the combo of an AK and M16 variants, which is a good thing. That's four assault rifles altogether now so far (five if the CQBR on concept art shown above is included in the game), so let's hope the other weapon categories have as diverse a selection. And considering how big the weapon selection in [[Red Dead Redemption|RDR]] was, I'm feeling pretty confident about it. Maybe my wish for a P226 could still come to pass after all? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:10, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a higher resolution cropped image of the mystery rifle.

[[File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg]]

It has the heat shield, gas block, and front sight of an M249, the magazine looks more like a belt bag, and the stock looks derived from the fixed stock of the Masada/ACR. The optic is an out-of-scale Elcan SpecterDR and it has a Magpul AFG2 foregrip. The receiver area lacks details, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's some kind of M249-based machine gun. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:15, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Now that you said that I start to see it, but my first bet was FAL, in the end it could just be a butchered MG, the stock doesn't somehow look m249ish to me and the heat shield seems tiny.--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 11:13, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

:After re-watching the trailer, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg light machine gun]. The ammo pouch gets a bit more obvious in motion and it's certainly an ammo pouch, not a 20 round 7.62 magazine. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 04:05, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

::I bet it turns out to be something ''really'' stoopid like an LSAT with a modified handguard. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:34, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

:::That horrified me for a moment, but I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that LSAT is tucked a bit further away then the pool of common firearms that appear in GTA. It will be some monstrosity of the natural order regardless. -[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

Seems to be a new pistol, but I can't ID it.[http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:52, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Could be a beretta. Weird pouch like a 50 rounder or something, but yeah now its definitely an butchered mg. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:35, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Underside of the trigger guard is straight, all Beretta models are rounded downward. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

DRD Tactical Paratus? [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 10:33, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

You mean the one to the left (its more likely an M4 would make sense for a game not centered around gun pron to have a generic well known firearm rather than some obscure one) if you mean the MG probably even more unlikely to me for now its seems like a franke-gun or at least a horribly scaled one. On a side note look at the one in the case the sight seems to be open http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/05/GTA-V-Heists.jpg and definetely a glock held by the guy in the picture little way above http://assets.vr-zone.net/19885/GTA_V_MFT.png -[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:00, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Spartan, gun models in video games can differ from their real life counterparts. It looks like a Beretta to me. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 18:47, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::Which gun are you talking about, the one pictured immediately above named "File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg"? If so you need to look at [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg this] image again, as it clearly shows that what looks like a mag from the side is actually a belt bag. Also you have the fact that the front sight and gas block are a match for a Minimi, and what can be seen of the receier in this grainy image is also pretty close. The only obvious differences are the furniture with the stock and handguard being different, and that the scaling is off. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:13, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
:::Commando, I was actually talking about this pistol: [http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 20:28, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Thats what I already said, since the game obviously has one in it, it's probably a beretta. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:59, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
:I know, I was agreeing with you because Spartan said that it couldn't be a Beretta with the squared trigger guard. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 09:57, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Sorry came of a bit rude , I meant to accentuate the fact that beretta is probably what everyone will think it is in the first place since it is confirmed to be in the game and beretta's have that distinct look of the slide,besides there's no reason to believe its some other gun since GTA's have tried to bring multiple weapons (AK's,AR's), instead of doing the COD thing and putting in several AR based ones, since they usually have a limited pool (like 3 in a category I believe) --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 13:09, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

*I was almost going to say it looked like a [[SIG SG 552|SIG552]], but the straight-edge magazine (rather than curved) says otherwise. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 02:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/GrandTheftAutoV/1280%20(1).jpg Looks like a 1911 or Hi-Power in Michael's hand. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:42, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

I can almost guaranty that the handgun above is another Beretta. If you look closely you can see the exposed barrel from the cutaway slide and you can barely make out the step in at the end of the barrel which a characteristic shared among all 92-series handguns.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 16:02, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

New pictures of guns in GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]

[[Image:ar-15 variant gta v 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A very close view of the AR-15 variant.]]
[[Image:GTAV_RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A RPG-7 based of the Airtronic RPG-7.]]
[[Image:gta v m134 without green camo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The handheld GE M134 without it's green finition.]]
[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
[[Image:gta v lmg (maybe M249).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the AR-15 variant, this time with a new LMG.]]
[[Image:franklin's beretta 92fs.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin's Beretta.]]
does anyone notice that Franklins Beretta has a Glock trigger guard? --[[User:Policerlhpd|Policerlhpd]] ([[User talk:Policerlhpd|talk]]) 03:57, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v night.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin at night with his Mossberg 590 Cruiser. I guess this is his favorite weapon.]]
[[Image:gta v ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the AR-15 variant. Last time I put it here.]]
[[Image:gta v mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the Mossberg.]]
:[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
:That's a camera. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 08:40, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yup camera 99% (since there is the same one in the SUV), seems that this game will sport gun customization at least color, the green Tavor,the green mini, and now the green shotty. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:26, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

I see a lot of influence from [[Heat]]. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 03:20, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah probably, but that is the trend in general with GTA's they put in references to movies and pop culture all the time. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:04, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

O yea, I know. This isn't my first GTA game by far. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

It's even right in the game, this time. According to an in-depth preview I watched on YouTube, Michael takes his ideas for heists directly from the game universe's versions of such movies. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:30, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

So is rockstar going to release the preview cause, all I have found right now is people talking for an hour about it .--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 04:50, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:They haven't released any public gameplay demos, no. At least none that I've seen yet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:20, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:As soon as they do, the media's going to be all over it. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 17:22, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a clearer picture of the pistol Franklin is holding in a previous screenshot.

[[File:Gtav pistol franklin.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Looks like some kind of cross between a Beretta and a Desert Eagle. It might be the "pistol .50" being offered as preorder DLC. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Seems like a different gun from the one in the above, I mean this probably is just a horrible DE, maybe work in progress, although GTA was never on top in weapons department. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:33, 14 June 2013 (EDT

http://www.gtav.net/screenshots/ - collection of official screenshots, might contain some weapons not already talked about. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

== Gameplay Video ==

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/09/first-grand-theft-auto-v-gameplay-video/

Go ahead and spot 'em. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:58, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

Dammit, Rockstar, take my money already! At 3:15, I can see an AW-type sniper rifle, a multi-shot grenade launcher (it looks similar to the hybrid grenade launcher in [[Resident Evil (2002 VG)|Resident Evil Remake]]), and a roll of dynamite in the weapon wheel. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:12, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png Got a screencap of Franklin with a tan M82A1M.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article on GTA V Gunplay ==
Found this article about the evolution of GTA V's gunplay on GTA Place. [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_v/b/xbox360/archive/2013/07/09/grand-theft-auto-v-gun-combat.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:39, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== New picture. ==

[[File:GTA5UNKNOWNPIST2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Bonshomme|Bonshomme]] 14:00, 10 July 2013 (CDT)

Is that seriously a rail on the side of the slide? [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 05:27, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

::Okay, I'm definitely not getting this game! Rockstar has always failed with the guns department (except in Max Payne 3), and that thing looks absolutely hideous. I'm done with the GTA series... Maybe when someone makes a skin mod for the guns, I'll get a copy... -.- --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 08:50, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Good. That leaves a copy for me. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::As if there will not be enough copies to go around, eh? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::While you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I always consider gun accuracy a +1 for me, incorrect weapon details isn't really much of a reason to not buy a game IMO (hell, I still got my copy of BO1). Again you are entitled to your opinion.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 11:06, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::: While I'm glad you won't be playing the game so as to avoid running into some joyless bother online, it seems to me more likely that the gun is a supposed to be some manner of TDI Kard, than whatever 1911/glock designed solely to offend your sensibilities you think it is. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::You have been playing too much Black Ops 2 if you think there is anything about that remotely resembling a Kard. It obviously has a conventional pistol layout with a slide, and the frame and general outline suggests a 1911. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:25, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Well, you know what they say: opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. I'm just sayin' you can't deny the fact that that... ''THING'' looks like a fugly frankengun, that should never see the light of day. I'm still hopin Rockstar has upped their gunplay from previous GTA titles, and made the gunplay (and the guns themselves) in this one a bit more realistic. You know, since they seem to be makin' this game another ground-breakin' masterpiece... Plus, I don't play with naive fanboys... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::If you would take the time to look at the trailer and use your words rather than skip to some nonsense about Black Ops 2, a game I haven't played not that it even matters, you might notice that Franklin uses the same pistol later in the trailer, his is fitted with an extended magazine and is seemingly firing on full auto, so, my suggestion that it's TDI Kard, I thought, might make a bit more sense than just losing your mind and writing off a whole title based on the appearance of a single handgun in the game. I can see how that might read as naivete though, I've had the wool pulled over my eyes and have been tricked into accepting a game in spite of the massive flaws it's exhibited in the design of one of it's firearms in a few seconds of footage and a screenshot or two, right?--[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 12:27, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::Yes. Btw, are you directing that comment to me or Commando552? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 16:45, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::At least some of it was directed at me so will address that part first. If your only evidance for it being a Kard is that it fires on full auto, then you should know that there are many other production pistols that are capable of full auto fire, not to mention the fact that it is possible to convert pistols to full automatic. Regardless of this, it is a game where they can give a gun whatever characteristics they choose so whether or not it is depicted as firing in full auto means nothing in real terms. Secondly, I have to say again it looks absolutely nothing like a Kard. If you can't see this then there is nothing that I can say to change your mind, but when I look at it I see absolutely nothing about the gun that suggests they based anything off of the Kard. If you put a gun to my head and made me take a guess at what it is meant to be I would probably say I highly customised (or very poorly modeled) full auto Glock, or maybe something like an Arsenal Strike One (which is available in FA/burst versions) but the shape is not really anything like one, it is just reminiscent of one if the "rail" on the front of the slide was actually the front slide serrations. In general can everyone chill out a bit about this game, we could do without the GTA talk pages degrading into a bitch fest like the COD ones historically have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:51, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I have to agree with Commando on the fact that it looks nothing like a Kard. Maybe a fuse of a badly-rendered Glock and a I9II... I also have to agree with Commando on the latter; regardless of my opinion on the possible depiction of guns/gunlay, there's no doubt that GTA V is going to be a great game (knowing Rockstar). Altough I still stand by my comment about not acquiring the game in the future, I realize that I shouldn't have been so outspoken about it, especially here, on the IMFDB. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 22:25, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
Well, look at MoH:WF, a game with accurate gun play but pretty mediocre everywhere else. Your opinion is yours, but what about Read Dead Redemption?[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:38, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Well don't get me wrong. I care about other elements besides gunplay such as gameplay and story. And as for RDR it was pretty accurate aside from a few minor mistakes.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 12:05, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::I agree with you, RDR was, and still is, pretty awesome. I still play it with my friends sometimes. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
Speaking of rails on the slide, it's been confirmed that we get weapon AND car customization to a pretty nice degree. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy the stories and the messages Rockstar provides in their games. But I've never been a fan of the GTA-gunplay. I'll be going for Saints Row IV this fall, instead of this. At least they don't even TRY to make the game realistic, so the gunplay is WAAAAY over the top. But that just makes it fun. PS. I enjoyed MOH:W... well, to a certain degree.--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Well, the gunplay that we've seen in the trailer (and confirmed in interviews) actually comes much more from Max Payne 3. You can run and gun without needing to aim and slow your movement, as well as switch between hard lock, soft lock, and full free aim in the options to suit your play style. You've still got the cover shooting and blindfiring, but you can actually be mobile in gunfights. There's also new options like being able to get in and out of a car while staying low to take cover behind it, as well as entering and exiting a car already shooting. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:33, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Has anyone considered that the pistol above could be a placeholder for something more real.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 15:40, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Its a possibility but given how we're two months away from release its unlikely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't think it is a placeholder, but I think there is a possibility that it is a bug where the wrong texture is on the model or it is using the low detail distance model or something, as there are several inconsistencies that make not sense. Firstly you have the fact that there is what appears to be a rail (which is scaled way too small) on the side of the slide. Then you have those weird horizontal black lines at the front of the slide and frame. Assuming that the black square at the back is meant to be the slide serrations, they span across both the slide and the top of the frame, which I have never seen on a real pistol. There are generally also lines all over the place on both the slide and frame which have no business being there on either a real gun, or a gun that is suggested by the silhouette of this. To top it off it also looks like it is ejecting rifle sized brass, but this is really the least of its problems. To me this gun looks ''so'' bad that it must be an error or something. It isn't just low detailed or simplified, or with random parts switched out for aesthetics, it actually appears deliberately FUBAR'd for no apparent reason. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:17, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I'm inclined to agree with Commando. All the guns on the page are designed relatively accurately except this one, which makes me think it's a texture bug. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:22, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

The Pistol is This ? Houge 1911 Avenger System - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:48, 6 August 2013 (JST)
[[File:1911 Avenger System.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hogue 1911 Avenger System]]

== AR 15 reloading ==

Did anyone notice in the new gameplay video that when Franklin pulls the charging handle of his AR15, a empty shell falls ?

Does that means that his gun jammed, or Rockstar Games made a shell fall each time the charging handle is pulled ? [[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 10 July 2013 (GMT)

:Probably the latter. And sign your posts by typing four tildes after them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:32, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

: It seems like they're doing the same thing as Metal Gear Solid 4, where Snake always racks the charging handle (ejecting an unfired round if it's a mid-mag reload) to chamber a fresh round after inserting the new magazine. This lets them stay realistically detailed while avoiding the +1 confusing that more casual players would have; keep it simple. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:23, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
::It really is kinda stupid and kinda lazy for animating a reload. Instead of programing someone doing nothing when you do a mid mag reload, they just left the reload animation program run, and I think the extra round coming out is really for the Hollywood effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:02, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
:: It's easier and less resource intensive to add a simple model of a cartridge flying out and use the same animation every time. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:01, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
Didn't he pull the charging handle a bit too far? [[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 16:20, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
::Looks pretty normal to me [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:06, 17 July 2013 (EDT)

Wouldn't also be more confortable to just hit the bolt release ? If doing a mid mag reload, nothing to do because a round is chambered, but it seems more natural to me to just hit the bolt release than racking the charging handle. [[User:Zebracherub|Zbracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 06:05, 28 July 2013 (GMT)

:It would, but this is GTA, where any random joe can hop in and know how to pilot a fighter plane or kill hundreds of people at a time without Homeland Security (or NOOSE, as they're called in-game) locking the city down like Guantanamo Bay NS, so it's not that big a deal IMO. Besides, I'd say this is just Rockstar showing off and proving they're still the pimps of the gaming industry. Aaargh! Why won't September 17th get here sooner?! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:08, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Theres lots of screen shots on the official site, some with weapons (an MP5 being fired by a SWAT member from an SUV). As for the flying part I thought they confirmed only Trevor is good at flying, it is possible there are missions the others learn to do that, SA had them, and we don't really know Niko didn't have any background in flying, Vercetti had little background at all and he was pretty old. As for the killing part most games have that I mean look at shooters even if we ignore the regeneration its quite improbable that one men can take out 20 in open shootout. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:32, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

:Nope, all three characters can operate any vehicle in the game, each one is just going to be better in one area than the others. This was confirmed by Rockstar in a Q&A posted on TGTAP forums. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

== CTAR-21 ==

I only noticed after editing the G11 to a CTAR-21, but does nayone know if this is meant to be the same gun just in different builds?
[[File:GTAVPossibleAUG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:GTAV TAR-21.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
From the fact that it is someone using the gun firing from a helicopter, at another helicopter, I would assume that this is the same piece of gameplay just with altered models. The confusing thing though is that the picture with the better correctly looking CTAR-21 is from November last year, as opposed to the crappy modded for no reason Tavor which is from a recent gameplay trailer. This would suggest that either the recent gameplay trailers used a '''very''' out of date build, or they deliberately messed with the weapons to make them less correct at some point during development, I would guess for legal reasons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:05, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
: It's fully possible that they altered the models to make them look different purely because they liked it better that way. They're making entertainment that looks good, not real-life gun porn. Aesthetic considerations are important. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:43, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
This is from the multiplayer trailer. It's definitely not in the TAR-21 family.
[[File:Gta5 online 32.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

A new screenshot was released showing a closer shot of the Tavor and it seems to have a P90-style fore-end.

[[File:GTA5-Tavor-Helicopter.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:06, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

== New Pictures ==

Two new photos have been released of a sniper rifle and that AP Pistol. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtav10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:gtav11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, I need to work at getting some caps from the new multiplayer trailer. But the apparent CTAR-21 (known in-game as the Advanced Rifle) actually doesn't really look like said gun in the final game except in the barest sense.

== New SMG ==

Thanks to iNero from GTA Forums for the picture. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:40, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtasmg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks like an oversized MP5A3.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 18:16, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
:: Highly doubt that. The only part of the shape that really matches an MP5A3 is the stock, and it has a short, straight magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Well as for the short mag, Rockstar said that weapon customization is going to be featured. So maybe the 10 round (civilian legal?) magazines is going to be an option. Also straight MP5 mags do exist. [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:47, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Straight MP5 magazines are older ones, and that doesn't match the pattern. The magwell is also too large for the magazine and it's sticking out at an awkward angle. And again, there's absolutely nothing that actually resembles an MP5 except for maybe the stock. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Looking at the SMGs currently documented on the site, I think it now looks similar to a [[FAMAE SAF]]
[[Image:SAF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAE SAF - 9x19mm]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:33, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Who labeled it a CZ Scorpion EVO 3? Looks a little like in the lower receiver/trigger guard area, but the rest is more MP5/SAF.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:23, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

:It looks like an MP5 with a sort of super-short G3 handguard. There's a closeup of it on one of the loading screens. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:00, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== M82? ==

Is it just me, or does the rifle in the first picture of the "Unknown Sniper Rifle" section (the one Franklin is holding on the roof) look a lot like an M82 variant? it has the muzzle brake and what we see of the body has the general shape. I don't have the pic now, but a recently released photo shows the sniper rifle on the weapon wheel photo and it's NOT the same gun. It actually looks closer to an Accuracy International rifle. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 03:39, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

It's a Barrett all right, check this screencap.
http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png
[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:38, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

== GTA Online Rifle ==
Found this over on Grand Theft Wiki.

[[File:GTAOnlineRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

They have it identified as a SCAR-L, but it's hard to make out. General shape is right for a SCAR, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:58, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== MK18 artwork ==
I separated it from the LR300 section since they clearly aren't the same weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:55, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

==Smith and Wesson M&P or Springfield XD? Can't identify.==
A person on another forum posted this pic of Michael holding a nickle plated handgun but the view is only from the top. I don't think it's a Glock because of the way the ejection port looks but I might be wrong. I can't see an exposed hammer. Any help?

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/fullsize/344.jpg

It could be a colored "AP Pistol". Paint jobs are among the weapon customization options. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:39, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: I don't think so. The side rails on the slide are so thick that they would be visible in this image. On GTA Forums there are suggestions that it's a S&W semi-auto. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 07:59, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
::The side rails on the AP pistol are just on the texture and not on the model aren't they? With a new skin the AP pistol could look totally different. Either way there isn't enough to go on from that shot to determine what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:17, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
:: It's difficult to tell. One other thing that makes me less convinced that it's the AP Pistol is that this gun has noticeable sights (The AP Pistol distinctly lacks them in all screenshots), and it seems to have a shorter barrel. It's almost definitely a separate gun, unless the customization options are more in-depth than we thought. Another suggestion might be a Taurus 24/7 or similar, as that gun is striker-fired, definitely comes in that finish, and has a similar sight profile from the top. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Side thought - is the AR that Franklin is holding missing the end of the buttstock or is that texture clipping? --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 15:10, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: Pretty sure that's just clipping. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

== Game Guide leak ==

Pics of the official game guide are turning up online.
http://imgur.com/a/ov4Rc#ZQjg5L3
http://imgur.com/a/vnbVM

No pics of the SMG or LMG sections yet. If you search for GTA V ammunation on youtube you'll find offscreen footage of a guy walking around the gun shop. You can see some sort of RPK clone on the wall.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:53, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
: No RPK, but the early game machine gun (the "MG") is pretty much just a PKM. Virtually all of the weapons in the game are already on the page. There's also an Assault Shotgun (which some say looks like a UTS 15 with a box magazine to resemble an AA-12), a sawed-off pump-action that may also be based on a Mossberg 500/590, the Combat Pistol (silver pistol held by Michael in the recently released trio pic, which reminds me of a Taurus PT 24/7 or Ruger P-series like the P97 with a stainless slide), and a Taser. The "unknown pistol" in the article is the PT92, which is apparently chambered in .45 ACP with a standard 12 round magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 00:05, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

== New SMG ==
This is an exclusive unlock for joining the Rockstar social club.

[[File:SC SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Not sure what it is myself. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:31, 13 September 2013 (EDT)

As far as I can see, it's 100% fictional. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 05:06, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yeah, seems so. And ugly as hell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:08, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:I see a birdcage flash hider, and the rest looks like the Halo 2/3 Battle Rifle. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 00:11, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

::Now that you mentioned that, I looked up what Halo battle rifle looks like, and I think this submachine gun might have also borrowed some design decisions from Halo's submachine gun. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:It also has a resemblance to the RCP-120 from Perfect Dark. [[User:RadiumMetal|RadiumMetal]] ([[User talk:RadiumMetal|talk]]) 17:21, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

== Barrett M-107 A1? ==

[[File:GTA5SNIPER1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

The muzzle brake and the right side of the gun, and also the color is very similar to the M-107 A1 than the AS50, is it real?

Check out the Gyazo link in my posts above. If you pause at the right moment, the rifle is a Barrett with a raised full length rail.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:36, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

== Combat Pistol ==

After unlocking the Combat Pistol in the game and using it quite a bit I'm thinking that it resembles some sort of HK pistol. Initially I thought it was like a USP Compact but I've thought it might be more like a HK45 or HK45c. I'm not sure though as at first I thought it was a Px4. Anyone else have any ideas what it could be? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 10:39, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
:The [http://gta.wikia.com/Weapons_in_GTA_V GTA Wiki] lists the combat pistol as the Taurus (well, they say Beretta but we know what they mean), or is that not the case in the final game? Also, that page has a picture of the assault shotgun, which appears to be an [[UTAS UTS-15]] which has been slightly messed with and had a box mag stuck on the bottom. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::The basic pistol is the Taurus not the combat pistol. They list the basic pistol as a P99 so it could be that the combat pistol is a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:53, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::I concur, the Combat Pistol definitely looks like a P99 to me. Glad they didn't rehash the 1911 or Glock again for the umpteenth time (not that I don't love 1911s and Glocks, I very much do ;D ). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Having got a decent look at it today I don't think it's a P99. It's got an exposed hammer and the general shape it more like a Beretta Px4 having taken a much closer look at it. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 18:45, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm only going by a tiny thumbnail (don't have the game) but it looks a bit like a [[CZ-G2000]] with a less sever angles around the trigger. This is pretty similar to the PX4, but I think it is a closer match as it has a square trigger guard and doesn't have an ambi safety (thumbnail I've seen is of the right side which lacks a safety). The profiling of the slide is also closer and the serrations look the same design (although there is one less band at both the front and back). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:37, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'd rather say a Px4 at this point. I've seen it up close (I DO have the game) and it looks a lot more like it was based on the Px4. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:06, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::I'm going to say having spend about half an hour moving the camera around trying to get really close shots of it that it is a Px4 more than anything else. The slide profile matches, the frame matches, the back of it matches. The only thing that doesn't match is the width of the slide serrations but that could just be a texture choice. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 12:53, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to venture a guess and say it's a combo of a Px4 and a P99, with the Px4 traits shining out the most. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:05, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know who it was who put the combat pistol as the H&K P2000 but it looks nothing like that. If it looks like any H&K pistol it's either the HK45c or the P30. I'm still leaning towards the Beretta Px4 though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 08:30, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

Picked up the guide yesterday evening while I was out and the "Combat Pistol" shown in it matches the general shape of the P2000, actually. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:20, 29 September 2013 (EDT)
:No one else sees a bit of the PT-909 in it?
[[File:Tau.jpg|thumb|none|800px]]
Remember no gun will be an exact match. They're all tweaked.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 18:10, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/4758e01a97e67d85191a02b267d98a60.png
The trigger guard and rail look P2000, but the rest resembles the Px4 to me.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:13, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

== Combat MG ==
It's not a Stoner, but rather an M60/M249 hybrid. Basically the stock of an M60, while everything in front of is is M249. Making appropriate changes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

== Guns on the TV programs ==

Killed a bit of time as Michael and watched the TV at his house. One of the channels was a FIB program called 'The Underbelly of Paradise'. One of the highlights was a few weapons on a table and one of the guns was a SIG P220-series pistol. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 21:57, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

There's also a brief shot of an M1911A1 cycling on an old-style crime show/movie and if you watch Jimmy playing ''Righteous Slaughter'' (a CoD/MoH/BF parody) in his room, the game character uses an XCR and a stainless steel Desert Eagle wielded tandem with a knife in the Harris stance. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

And the preview for the in-game movie ''The Simian'', which I saw while hanging out with Jimmy at a movie theater, has several shots of Hunter attack helicopters and at least one clear shot of the M230 chain gun on one of them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:25, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

== What's up with the Carbine Rifle changes? ==

Uhhh... Guys? The new Carbine really looks like the LR-300 and I thought it was agreed on. I don't know why we needed the change. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 20:03, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't the one who changed it, but I 100% agree with the change. First off, it isn't an LR-300 as the overriding unique feature about the LR-300 is that it doesn't have a buffer tube. This gun has a buffer tube. That is before we even get into the fact that the game gun has different furniture and a VLTOR MUR receiver rather than the unique LR-300 one. As with most of the weapons in the game this appears to be a hybrid gun at best, so it can't really be given a proper ID other than a custom AR-15. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:12, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:The assault rifle looks like a Hecker & Koch HK416 to me. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 8:43 AM (EST)
::It isn't, as far as I can tell there is not a single part on this that matches the HK416: the upper has the brass deflector built into the front of the forward assist like on a VLTOR MUR; the magazine fence on an HK416 is rounded whereas on this it is flat making it look more like one of the many different billet lowers that are available from various manufacturers; the stock is an ACE stocj which appears to be incorrectly depicted as extendable; the handguard is possibly a Daniel Defence MFR, but if not is definitely isn't a piston HK416 one. None of these parts are really perfect matches, but seeing the quality of the models on the other guns this isn't really to be expected. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:36, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Hmm...after looking through the M16 gallery, and the Colt AR-15 identification guide, and doing some googling, It seems like it COULD POSSIBLY be a hybrid of a Daniel Defense MFR and ZM LR-300, while trying to look like a HK416 (beefy handguard and short barrel), I can't shake it, to me it screams Franken-HK416, don't know why. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 1:02 PM (EST)
::::Look at the forwards assist and brass deflector area of this gun:[[File:GTAV_AR15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Note how the forward assist is a large flat faced wedge with the plunger coming out the bottom half of it, with a brass deflector attached at the top front corner. Now compare that to the below image:[[File:NovesDiplomat.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Noveske Rifleworks N4 Diplomat with VLTOR Modstock, EOTech sight and Surefire M900 weapon-light fore-grip - 5.56x45mm]]Notice they are a match. This is a unique thing that is only found on VLTOR MUR and VIS upper receivers (one pictured above is a VIS, MUR is the version without a monolithic handguard) and is due to the forward assist being able to be removed and replaced with a blanking plate fitted only with a brass deflector. Both the HK416 and the Z-M variants used different upper receiver designs to this, so it isn't either of them. I doubt that this is any factory gun in particular, it could be that the modellers just picked and chose various parts and stuck them together to make a gun they liked the look of, or it could be modelled off of a real custom gun that somebody has made. I don't get why people seem to think this is a HK416 (not just you, have seen people all over the place call it that) if the only thing they are going on is the fact it has a short barrel and a chunky handguard, there are a hell of a lot of guns that fit this description and are a closer match than an HK416, like this [[Media:POF P-416-11.JPG|Patriot Ordnance Factory P416]] for example. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:All the guns are hybrids, and the game's artists won't be familiar with the internals so I would go with the gun that is most similar in look, even if the similarities are all on the cosmetic parts and the dissimilarities affect the internals. Also the Combat SMG is an MP5 hybrid, not a Scorpion.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:15, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== pics of all guns except special edition weapons ==

I went and got the game guide. Here are pics of all the guns.

http://s13.postimg.org/5humxnsfr/gta_Weap.png

[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 15:23, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== ANALYSIS: Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 (Airsoft) ==

I've identified the firearm "Carbine Rifle", I analyzed it done here

[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-001.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]
[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-002.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]

Ace skeleton stock:

[[Image:Ace Stock Medium1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ace skeleton Stock]]

Reference: http://jagprecision.com/daniel-defense-m4-mfr-series-from-socom-gear/

PaulD21x (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2013 (VE)

Nailed it, nice.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:58, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:Not really, look a couple of sections above. The handguard is a Daniel Defence MUR (or at least a close approximation of one), but the upper receiver appears to be a VLTOR and the lower is not a DD one. Also you have the fact that the stock appears to be an Ace ARFX-E "Entry" stock which is the short one but this is fixed and not retractable, whereas this is extended out on the buffer tube like a regular AR-15 carbine style stock (I assume this is more due to ignorance rather than it being based on something else). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:43, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:I think it is a customized gun with a Daniel Defense MFR handguard, VLTOR MUR upper, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, the lower looks to be a NorthTech Billet receiver (with de fix trigger guard), the front BUIS is like a Troy Front sight and the rear a A2 type but simplified (or an unknow model), Hogue pistol grip (or any other model) and the ACE stock (but we can see they are nothing to move it because it is a fix stock and not a telescopic, an error). But it is not a basic model for me. --[[User:ArmaLite15|armalite15]] ([[User talk:Armalite15|talk]])

== "Combat Pistol" ==

Me again, noting that you guys missed a pistol.

Of course, this pistol is simply called the "Combat Pistol" and resembles the Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in a way. I have no way of getting screens and I haven't seen any so far. I haven't progressed far enough into the game to unlock it, but it can be viewed at the Ammunation stores if anyone had the game and wants to look. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:12, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
:No, we haven't missed it. Read a couple discussions above, we're still trying to come to a consensus on what it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:51, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

Ah, I see sorry. I missed that discussion. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:03, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

== Phone shots ==

So I hear you could take snaps using the in-game smart phone. Would it be possible to get some screenshots that way? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:37, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure, you have to sign up to Rockstar Social Network to do it, and I ''bet'' it watermarks them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:45, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
::Actually there is no watermark, but these pictures are only 640x360, and have a filter added that makes them look like low quality analog picture.--[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 15:34, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't think you can take phone pictures while armed, although you might get some from cops or security guards with guns, and take photos in the Ammu-Nation.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 21:30, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== In case you're wondering... ==

Cleetus' second hunting mission is bugged (hopefully forever) and when he tells you to hunt the last Elk it lets you wander the entire map with no possibility of triggering a police alert, meaning you can wander around in the military base to your hearts' content. You can keep anything you take by just causing an explosion (''anywhere'' on the map, but the jet's missiles don't count) which will spook the elk and let you quit out of the mission. I can't find anywhere to store the tank that Trevor can own, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:49, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm gonna have to exploit that. I've tried constantly to get a Titan, but I can never get it off the ground before a tank blows me up. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:54, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== Can we just settle on the "Carbine Rifle" by describing the components that it's constructed from? ==
It's obvious that it's not any named product (like the DDM4 it's currently IDed as but clearly is not), so can we just call it a custom AR-15 (like we do other franken ARs), ID it by its individual components, then be done with it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:30, 3 November 2013 (EST)

Moving these here for now, since I've changed the Carbine Rifle entry to reflect that it is ''not'' a DDM4.
[[File:DDM4sbr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DDM4 300 SBR with Magpul MOE stock, Magpul PMAG magazine, and KAC vertical foregrip - 300 BLK]]
[[Image:AF02-F-OT-ARFXE-ARULE-5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ace Skeleton Stock]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:53, 19 November 2013 (EST)

== Beach Bum pistol ==

A new handgun will be added in the next update/free DLC, called the "SNS"

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/xbox360/gta5/screens/gta5_269_605x.jpg

Probably a movie reference, perhaps it's a Walther PP of some form.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2013 (EST)

Beach Bum pack is out, the SNS pistol looks like a Heckler & Koch P7 M13 fitted with wood grips and a round trigger guard.[[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 20:01, 19 November 2013 (GMT)

== Gun pic on Social Club ==

Close view of the most used gun can be seen in the Social Club.

[[File:SocialClubAR15.jpg]]

This is a Northtech Billet lower, VLTOR Upper, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip but the upper is strange, it is raised up like the HK-416. And the handguard is very close to the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0..[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 19:43, 17 November 2013

== "Carbine Rifle" mounting an image ==

Since I edited the image from Photoshop, is a mixture: that's to HK-416 - Northtech Billet lower, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, Ace Skeleton Stock And the handguard is the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0
[[File:GTAVCARBINERIFLEMIXTURE.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 21:23, 21 November 2013

Is that a Pimpmygun pistol grip? [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:06, 21 November 2013 (EST)

No, I'm pretty sure he just Shopped in the grip from the Social Club image above. Also, if you wanted to create a composite, you could have just done an image search for the actual lower receiver used (I found plenty on Bing), because as has been previously stated, '''not a single component on this gun corresponds to the HK416'''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:39, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:There is possibly part of an HK416 potentially in there, as in the social club image you can see that the shape of the top rail at the rear steps down ahead of the charging handle like an HK416, which is not the case with a VLTOR MUR which the rest of the receiver is. This composite photoshop just uses a vanilla HK416 upper though which is not correct for the game gun. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:15, 22 November 2013 (EST)

It's all moot now, because I've solved the image problem. Found this during a Bing search for "gta v carbine rifle".

[[File:GTA5-Carbine-Rifle-Example.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The in-game "Carbine Rifle" - 5.56x45mm]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:On seeing that, it looks like it has an HK416 gas block as well. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 22 November 2013 (EST)

== Combat MG ID and non-player weapons ==
This is a response to Ultimate94 recently changing the MK46 Mod 0 ID back to Mod 1. The Mod 1 lacks a 12 o'clock Picatinny, using the M249 heat shield instead. This was done, AFAIK, to facilitate the re-inclusion of the carry handle. The Combat MG has a Picatinny rail in this position (albeit a low profile one), which would therefor make it a Mod 0. The weapon render linked to on the GTA Wiki is far too small to discern any details from, so doesn't prove anything.

Why were the non-player weapons added back to the main categories? Every other GTA game on IMFDb is formatted with non-player weapons in a separate "Other" category. What's the objection to this page being the same?

The artwork of Michael holding the MK18 doesn't appear in the game as a loading screen (unlike the Type 56 artwork), so it should be deleted from the page. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:42, 30 December 2013 (EST)

== Valentines Day M1928 Thompson ==
So there's going to be a free Chicago Typewriter coming up.
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/news/article/52186/Coming-this-Friday-The-GTA-Online-Valentine-s-Day-Massacr[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:23, 11 February 2014 (EST)

It's classed as an LMG in-game, with superior stats compared to the PKM (except for mag capacity), making it a good choice for anyone who hasn't unlocked the PKM, or someone who can live without the extra ammo capacity or aim-down-sight zoom (Tommy Gun doesn't get an optic) until they unlock the M249/M60 hybrid --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (EST)

You can acquire a PKM in a few places right at the start of the game if you know where to look, though. Inside the gate at the Vagos' compound in East LS, for example (as long as you aren't wearing Families colors, you'll have plenty of time to get in and out before their threats turn into gunfire... usually). You just can't buy any mods for it yet. Quite a few weapons are ripe for the picking if you know where to look, actually. Type 56, MP5, MGL, AW, Minigun (''extremely'' hard to get as it's inside Fort Zancudo, though), Super Shorty, RPG, Assault Shotgun (another hard one to get, as it's pretty deep inside the Altruists' mountain compound), grenades, Jerry can, and Molotov cocktails. The Mossberg Cruiser can be acquired quite easily from police as long as you escape your wanted level quick, or if you happen upon a chase and follow until it erupts into a shootout (the criminals usually win LOL). A Carbine Rifle can also be effortlessly acquired from an isolated Merryweather mercenary at their LS Port "turf" if one is careful (I wouldn't advise trying to get one from the LSPD officers lingering around LS International, though). I like having the Thompson in the game, don't get me wrong, but it's largely a gimmick weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 05:44, 8 March 2014 (EST)

== Removing images ==

I'm in favor of keeping the PKM image on the page, but only because this page is currently incomplete and it's the only screenshot available. I expect a better image will be available when more screencaps are available and the page is completed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:49, 25 February 2014 (EST)

== Cut weapons ==

So I just found this, worthy of mention in the discussion page at least:
http://gtaforums.com/topic/678397-the-gta-v-beta-hunt/page-6

In addition to several melee weapons, there are some icons for the XM25, a DMR variant of the AR-15 (seems to be referred to as M14), a HK21, and a SCAR-H.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:44, 26 February 2014 (EST)

A poster there states they weren't cut, but rather just aren't enabled for player use. So maybe Rockstar is holding them back as future DLC? I'd love to have that AR-15 sniper rifle (which resembles an M110A1, which, AFAIK, is an M110 with the fixed stock replaced with a collapsible one). I always felt the next upgrade from the bolt action should have been a semi-auto .308, with the Barrett placed in the slot with the MGL, RPG, and Minigun, and made to do more damage to vehicles. The stock on the SCAR's in-game render looks like it was taken from the LSAT machine gun, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:29, 26 February 2014 (EST)

== New upcoming DLC ==
The "Heavy Pistol" and "Special Carbine" will be released next week.
[[File:GTAV-HeavyPistol-SpecialCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
The carbine is clearly a G36K, but the pistol seems to be a 1911 of some kind. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:23, 27 February 2014 (EST)

From looking at the gun itself and at the Social Club page, I think the pistol looks a lot more like a 1911 than an FNX-45, or maybe some sort of Kimber-esque thing. The grip and grip panels look far more 1911 than FN. Cheers, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
*EDIT: here's a link that shows the Social Club image, and shows how it more resembles either a regular 1911 or some sort of Kimber-style tactical model: http://gta.wikia.com/Heavy_Pistol [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

It most resembles a [[Springfield_Armory_1911_Series#Springfield_Armory_Tactical_Response_Pistol_.28TRP.29|Springfield TRP Operator]] with the slide derived from the OTs-33 to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:44, 4 March 2014 (EST)

definitely looks like a Springfield TRP operator with mabye some cz97 http://www.lipseys.net/images/CZ01411.jpg?maxwidth=520--[[User:Anarchy66660|Anarchy66660]] ([[User talk:Anarchy66660|talk]]) 22:03, 4 March 2014 (EST)

That's definitely a TRP Operator frame, the new pistol doesn't resemble an FNP very much. The slide looks like a flatter version of a normal 1911.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:43, 4 March 2014 (EST)

== Heavy Pistol ==

Could the heavy pistol be an Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911?
[[File:Steel_Full_Rail_Gun_5.jpg|thumb|none|350px|]]
The slide is very flat like the heavy pistol, they both have the full dust cover rail, wide rear cocking serrations, and lack of front cocking. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2014 (EST)

I think you got it, looks dead on to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:01, 8 March 2014 (EST)
:It is pretty close, but I think that is just coincidence. There are a number of differences that suggest it is not based on this gun such as the fibre optic sights, different numbers of slide serrations, lack of a beavertail (or in fact a grip safety at all by the look of it), a seemingly changeable curved backstrap, slanted rather than vertical trigger guard front, different grips, and most definitively the fact that it has a single rather than double stack frame. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:29, 8 March 2014 (EST)
::None of the guns in the game are exactly modeled after anything. The Taurus has a different number of slide serrations, a different hammer, etc. Hell, look at the "Desert Eagle." The Heavy Pistol is at least a lot closer to this gun, than the Operator. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:12, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
:::To me it seems much more likely that the guy who made it simply messed around with a standard 1911 rather than modelling it after a relatively obscure custom gun though. To be honest a lot of the gun IDs on this page are pretty far fetched, in particular the so-called "OTs-33 Pernach" which looks absolutely nothing like one (to me this gun actually looks like it is the bottom half of a 2nd series [[Colt Woodsman]] with some tactical crap slapped on the top). Weapons which appear to be fictional but bear a vague (possibly coincidental) resemblance to something real should not be definitely listed as this (such as saying that "The Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911, released with the "Business Update" DLC, appears as the Heavy Pistol." which is not really the case). For most of these guns the proper thing to do would be to have the heading for the section be, for example, "Heavy Pistol" and state underneath that it is a 1911 type pistol bearing some similarities to the Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911 but with several notably differences. Similarly for the "Special Carbine", not a single part of that is actually taken from a real Heckler & Koch G36C, it is just a random collection of different parts (some of them real, like the [http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-pistol-grips/id-1/m16-m4-ar15-tactical-ergonomic-pistol-grip.html FAB Defense AG-43 AR-15 pistol grip]) which have been assembled into the vague shape of a G36C--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:17, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
::::I think the SpeCarbine has G36K resemblence in the upper receiver/ handguard and top rail, just a lot more flat than the real thing. The AP pistol definitely has a Woodsman grip, the slide was probably incorrectly based on a Kriss KARD. The frame of the SNS pistol resembles the HK P7M10, too.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:23, 2 April 2014 (EDT)

== Bullpup Rifle ==
It looks like it has a 7.62x39mm AK magazine, so shouldn't it go in the rifles category despite it being classified as an SMG in-game? Same goes for the "Assault SMG", which clearly has a 20-round AR-15 mag. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:18, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think it was put in the SMG category by accident, "Bullpup Rifle" clearly indicates it is going to be classified as an assault rifle. Looks like a hybrid of the QBZ-95 and it's B carbine.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:48, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think that it's a shame that it's a QBZ at all and not the L85 it looked like in one piece of concept art (below) [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
[[File:Gtao-hl-bpr.jpeg]]

== AP Pistol ==

I just saw this on Modern Firearms. http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/scamp-e.html Does anyone else think the AP Pistol looks more like the Colt SCAMP than the OTs-33 Pernach? [[User:Rockinthecasbah|Rockinthecasbah]] ([[User talk:Rockinthecasbah|talk]]) 18:35, 10 April 2014 (EDT)

== Love all the vehicles and weapons as free DLC, I really do, but... ==
It would be nice if we got something other than just pistols and assault rifles. There's already more of those than any other weapon type. I wish they'd add some of the cut weapons detailed a few sections up (M110-style sniper rifle, XM25-style grenade launcher, etc.) in addition to new stuff. Would love an MP7A1 and a Carl Gustav rocket launcher, for example. Maybe add some new weapon attachments like laser sights and different optics. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:06, 13 May 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Grand Theft Auto V

2014-05-13T16:33:08Z

Sandymon: /* Bullpup Rifle */

== new page and type 56-2 ==

Hi!
I made this kinda quick. Didn't have a lot of time to check errors.
I'm relatively new to the editing in this site. So if any veteran
around with more knowledge could help improve the article would be indeed
great.
When it comes to the weapon, I believe it's a Norinco Type 56-2 since the stock
looks like the one in a Type 56-2. Otherwise correct if I'm wrong.
Also one of the guys seems to have a laser sight. Don't know which sort though
[[User:Santos|Santos]] 17:08, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

The rifles seem to have some sort of rail system on them... which I think is a shame--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 10:55, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

:Most likely is the handguard with picatinny rails. The guy knocking on the van leading those other two men, seems to have a laser sight attached to it. This is a handguard is from FAB-Defense. http://www.fab-defense.com/images/big-details/ak-47-1.jpg

One of the screenshots mentions "excellent" trigger discipline, to me it looks like his finger is actually on the trigger as there is a small curve in the shape of the finger, I wouldn't refer to that as excellent trigger discipline. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:42, 1 December 2011 (CST)

:To me it looks like the guy is holding his finger just slightly above the trigger area, not excellent but still better than most games have, to be honest the only game i can remember that had great trigger discipline was MGS4 where Snake kept his finger completely off the triggers of all weapons unless he was aiming them, but i think that since they're both video games, bad trigger discipline can be excused since i doubt developers want to spend who knows how many hours giving every character separate finger animations for trigger discipline, and also there is the fact that the character can have their fingers wrapped around the triggers, but the players have theirs completely off the fire button, so essentially, it's our own 'trigger' discipline that video game characters have (least that's how i see it) we should save the bad trigger discipline arguments for movies.[[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 16:26, 8 March 2012 (CST)
::Add ''[[ArmA 2]]'' to the list of games with excellent trigger discipline. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

== M4? ==

Help to identify; looks like a M4 rifle with longer (?) and suppressed barrel. [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] ([[User talk:Pawelm|talk]]) 13:55, 10 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I would say that it has a shorter barrel than an M4A1. I would say it's a suppressed [[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 14:21, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Suppressor resembles an AAC model which covers more of the barrel than the KAC suppressors we commonly see, so it's possible it could still be an M4. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:10, 10 November 2012 (EST)

:If it was an M4 length barrel, there would be no suppressor left to actually trap the gas to suppress the weapon. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 22:24, 10 November 2012 (EST)

looks like it has the older CAR-15 style stock [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:38, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:What people refer to as CAR-15s (XM177, XM177E1, XM177E2 etc) were fitted with a stock that was made of aluminium with a black polymer coating as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#2nd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. Later Colt carbines up to and including the M4 had a synthetic fiberlite stock as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#3rd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. The easiest way to tell them apart are the vertical reinforcing ribs that are present on the side of the fiberlite stock, which are present in the game gun. As this stock can be found on Mk. 18s, Model 933s and M4s (all of which this gun could be depending on how the suppressor fits) that doesn't really help. However as the gun has the slim handguard rather than the thicker double heat shield M4 handguard, my best guess would be a Mk. 18. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:03, 11 November 2012 (EST)
::What I think he meant was this is the 3rd Gen stock, the four-position plastic, not the newer six-position.--[[User:Sangheili1155|Sangheili1155]] ([[User talk:Sangheili1155|talk]]) 02:43, 12 November 2012 (EST)
I've seen scans that show one of the other characters holding that weapon without a suppressor on it. I'd definitely go with Mk.18 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 01:12, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure that this is why this image is in this section, but I cant believe these animated pictures as validation for the weapons in the game. GTA IV had MANY weapons in the loading screens that for what ever reason never made it to the final product.--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:05, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:Check the [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] page and you'll notice we include loading screen weapons on it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

::If a weapon is in the game and can be identified, then it should be identified. This includes artwork, loading screens, stock footage, in-game posters, whatever; if it's a clear and identifiable shot it's included. Weapons only seen in previews can also be included as long as the image is from a legitimate source and not leaked. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (EST)

Cover for the latest Game Informer magazine. You can see the suppressor is missing but the muzzle and the barrel is missing [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Weapon Selection hope==

So I don't know about most of you, but one of the worst aspects to these games is the frank lack of weapons for which you to use. I am not saying that the game doesn't need 100 different firearms, but there is no need to use the low level weapons once the higher tier weapons are unlocked (compare the Glock and Desert Eagle in GTA IV, how often do you use the Glock after unlocking). If nothing else I hope that this game has at least 3-4 variations in firearm. There are tons of vehicles to choose from, but you dont spend most of your time offing people with cars. Having to use the same repetitive weapon again and again bores me. What are your thoughts?--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:09, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Four or five options of each type sound good to me. I'm hoping we get a silenced pistol again this time. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)

:@Spartan198, exactly! The way I have seen it (for example), in the pistol category there should be a standard (Glock), Hi standard (1911), Burst (Beretta 93R), Special (Silenced [if no ability to customize]), and Magnum (Desert Eagle/Equivilant). Now this is a very basic look, but I think you can catch my drift. Same thing for shotguns where there should be a Double Barrell (For range and/or sawed off), Pump (Mossberg), Semi Auto (Benelli M4), and Automatic (USAS-12/AA-12). You can make any adjustments for which weapons are in which category does not matter. But the differences. --[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 12:45, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Seeing the silenced 56-2s in the reveal; its likely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 01:25, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping to see an [[Ithaca 37]] in this like in San Andreas, being that this is taking place in the same fictional Los Angeles. --[[User:QueenSasha24|QueenSasha24]] ([[User talk:QueenSasha24|talk]]) 04:01, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping for a SIG P226 myself this time around, but with the 92FS, that's looking unlikely. I like Valiant's system of classification, though. Using that system, I'd like to see assault rifles classified like this: an AKMS without a stock (low accuracy, short range), the Type 56 (medium accuracy, short range), the AR-15 variant (high accuracy, medium range), TAR-21 (high accuracy, long range). A grenade launcher attachment (if the weapons are customizable) would be nice, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:38, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

==Trailer 2==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzue74y7A84

The only new weapon I see looks to be an M4 type at 1:15. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:05, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Aaaargh! Why won't videos stream for me? It's been like this for the past 3 days! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:34, 15 November 2012 (EST)

== Trailer #2 Screenshots ==

[[File:Gta5-1.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 platform rifle]]
[[File:Gta5-2.JPG|200px|thumb|none|The handguard is longer than M4-style one]]
[[File:Gta5-3.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 style rifle, looks a bit like a HK416 to me, also the guy on the right has the same, or very similar gun]]

The rifle on the 3rd screencap looks like a HK416 variant (handguard with these thin vents). Also the rifle in 1st and 2nd screenshot seems to be different than the one in the 3rd. It has a black magazine, in games a gun rarely can have a mag swapped out. :D --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:06, 15 November 2012 (EST)

PS sorry for the black bars guys :\ --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:08, 15 November 2012 (EST)

:I'm guessing it is the same rifle in all 3 caps. Also, in the first screencap you can see the distinctive forward assist/brass deflector that is used on VLTOR VIS and MUR upper receivers ([[Media:NovesDiplomat.jpg|here]] is a picture of a Noveske Diplomat with a VIS upper showing the forward assist). Although these uppers are used on Noveske rifles, I don't think this is one as the handguard is wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:22, 15 November 2012 (EST)

It looks like more an AAC Honey Badger (look at the stock and the bolt) than an HK416 or AR-15-like rifle for the 3rd picture. --[[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]])
:Several reasons why I don't think it is a Honey Badger: firstly, the stock on the Honey Badger extend on rails on the side of the receiver like an MP5, as opposed to this where it extends along the buffer tube in typical Colt Carbine fashion; secondly it appears that it has a VLTOR VIS/MUR upper receiver based on the design of the combined forward assist and brass deflector which the Honey Badger doesn't; lastly, even if you disagree that it is a VLTOR upper it definitely has a forward assist, which the Honey Badger does not just having a normal brass deflector. In what way do you think the bolt makes it a Honey Badger they are pretty much the same on a typical AR-15 and a Honey Badger aren't they? (with the exception of the FA serrations, but from these screenshots you cannot tell whether they are there or not.) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:30, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Very usefull thing i found ==

Hey guys i think this thread has everything about Weapons for GTA V, GTA Fans are really great at spotting things http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=532181&st=0
--[[User:Faizanali|Faizanali]] ([[User talk:Faizanali|talk]]) 03:38, 20 November 2012 (EST)
: As a member of GTA Forums, I can reliably say that anything you see there should be taken with the biggest dose of salt in history. Like, something from Big Bone Lick State Park. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 04:06, 20 November 2012 (EST)

== 1911 and Glock ==
A new artwork was revealed, and it has a 1911 and a glock variant. We should put on the main page?--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] ([[User talk:Flavio|talk]]) 15:16, 4 January 2013 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_PISTOLS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== New trailers ==

There's new guns found in the trailer of GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]) 18:06, 30 April 2013 (EST)
[[Image:ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is an AR-15 variant, the same as seen in the trailer 2.]]
[[Image:ar-15 variant 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closer view of the variant.]]
[[Image:assault rifle gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new assault rifle, I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. It seems this is a Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:type 56 gangster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type 56-2 in the hands of a gangster.]]
[[Image:type 56 trevor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor shoots his type 56-2.]]
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v new stock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new stock on Franklin's Mossberg 590 Cruiser.]]

I got some better images of the weapons that I'll be adding to the article. Here's a better shot of the unknown rifle; it looks kinda like a SCAR-H, but there's bits that aren't right.

Looks more like a weird FAL--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:41, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, here's a shot of the pistol used by Michael in the rappelling scene. I can't identify it, but it almost looks to have an orange tip like an airsoft gun and no hammer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:58, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[http://gyazo.com/ca7fae1d3d648ca8a2623bb5adb2bbbf.png?1367374112]] Not sure if it's a Hi-Power or 1911, on Michael's TV. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:11, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm also thinking some kind of short-barreled FAL for the new AR, judging by the magazine and shape of the mag well. It and the Tavor are certainly new and different choices considering GTA's past being dominated by the combo of an AK and M16 variants, which is a good thing. That's four assault rifles altogether now so far (five if the CQBR on concept art shown above is included in the game), so let's hope the other weapon categories have as diverse a selection. And considering how big the weapon selection in [[Red Dead Redemption|RDR]] was, I'm feeling pretty confident about it. Maybe my wish for a P226 could still come to pass after all? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:10, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a higher resolution cropped image of the mystery rifle.

[[File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg]]

It has the heat shield, gas block, and front sight of an M249, the magazine looks more like a belt bag, and the stock looks derived from the fixed stock of the Masada/ACR. The optic is an out-of-scale Elcan SpecterDR and it has a Magpul AFG2 foregrip. The receiver area lacks details, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's some kind of M249-based machine gun. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:15, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Now that you said that I start to see it, but my first bet was FAL, in the end it could just be a butchered MG, the stock doesn't somehow look m249ish to me and the heat shield seems tiny.--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 11:13, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

:After re-watching the trailer, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg light machine gun]. The ammo pouch gets a bit more obvious in motion and it's certainly an ammo pouch, not a 20 round 7.62 magazine. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 04:05, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

::I bet it turns out to be something ''really'' stoopid like an LSAT with a modified handguard. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:34, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

:::That horrified me for a moment, but I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that LSAT is tucked a bit further away then the pool of common firearms that appear in GTA. It will be some monstrosity of the natural order regardless. -[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

Seems to be a new pistol, but I can't ID it.[http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:52, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Could be a beretta. Weird pouch like a 50 rounder or something, but yeah now its definitely an butchered mg. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:35, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Underside of the trigger guard is straight, all Beretta models are rounded downward. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

DRD Tactical Paratus? [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 10:33, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

You mean the one to the left (its more likely an M4 would make sense for a game not centered around gun pron to have a generic well known firearm rather than some obscure one) if you mean the MG probably even more unlikely to me for now its seems like a franke-gun or at least a horribly scaled one. On a side note look at the one in the case the sight seems to be open http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/05/GTA-V-Heists.jpg and definetely a glock held by the guy in the picture little way above http://assets.vr-zone.net/19885/GTA_V_MFT.png -[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:00, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Spartan, gun models in video games can differ from their real life counterparts. It looks like a Beretta to me. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 18:47, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::Which gun are you talking about, the one pictured immediately above named "File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg"? If so you need to look at [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg this] image again, as it clearly shows that what looks like a mag from the side is actually a belt bag. Also you have the fact that the front sight and gas block are a match for a Minimi, and what can be seen of the receier in this grainy image is also pretty close. The only obvious differences are the furniture with the stock and handguard being different, and that the scaling is off. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:13, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
:::Commando, I was actually talking about this pistol: [http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 20:28, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Thats what I already said, since the game obviously has one in it, it's probably a beretta. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:59, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
:I know, I was agreeing with you because Spartan said that it couldn't be a Beretta with the squared trigger guard. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 09:57, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Sorry came of a bit rude , I meant to accentuate the fact that beretta is probably what everyone will think it is in the first place since it is confirmed to be in the game and beretta's have that distinct look of the slide,besides there's no reason to believe its some other gun since GTA's have tried to bring multiple weapons (AK's,AR's), instead of doing the COD thing and putting in several AR based ones, since they usually have a limited pool (like 3 in a category I believe) --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 13:09, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

*I was almost going to say it looked like a [[SIG SG 552|SIG552]], but the straight-edge magazine (rather than curved) says otherwise. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 02:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/GrandTheftAutoV/1280%20(1).jpg Looks like a 1911 or Hi-Power in Michael's hand. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:42, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

I can almost guaranty that the handgun above is another Beretta. If you look closely you can see the exposed barrel from the cutaway slide and you can barely make out the step in at the end of the barrel which a characteristic shared among all 92-series handguns.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 16:02, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

New pictures of guns in GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]

[[Image:ar-15 variant gta v 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A very close view of the AR-15 variant.]]
[[Image:GTAV_RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A RPG-7 based of the Airtronic RPG-7.]]
[[Image:gta v m134 without green camo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The handheld GE M134 without it's green finition.]]
[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
[[Image:gta v lmg (maybe M249).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the AR-15 variant, this time with a new LMG.]]
[[Image:franklin's beretta 92fs.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin's Beretta.]]
does anyone notice that Franklins Beretta has a Glock trigger guard? --[[User:Policerlhpd|Policerlhpd]] ([[User talk:Policerlhpd|talk]]) 03:57, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v night.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin at night with his Mossberg 590 Cruiser. I guess this is his favorite weapon.]]
[[Image:gta v ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the AR-15 variant. Last time I put it here.]]
[[Image:gta v mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the Mossberg.]]
:[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
:That's a camera. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 08:40, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yup camera 99% (since there is the same one in the SUV), seems that this game will sport gun customization at least color, the green Tavor,the green mini, and now the green shotty. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:26, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

I see a lot of influence from [[Heat]]. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 03:20, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah probably, but that is the trend in general with GTA's they put in references to movies and pop culture all the time. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:04, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

O yea, I know. This isn't my first GTA game by far. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

It's even right in the game, this time. According to an in-depth preview I watched on YouTube, Michael takes his ideas for heists directly from the game universe's versions of such movies. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:30, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

So is rockstar going to release the preview cause, all I have found right now is people talking for an hour about it .--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 04:50, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:They haven't released any public gameplay demos, no. At least none that I've seen yet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:20, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:As soon as they do, the media's going to be all over it. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 17:22, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a clearer picture of the pistol Franklin is holding in a previous screenshot.

[[File:Gtav pistol franklin.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Looks like some kind of cross between a Beretta and a Desert Eagle. It might be the "pistol .50" being offered as preorder DLC. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Seems like a different gun from the one in the above, I mean this probably is just a horrible DE, maybe work in progress, although GTA was never on top in weapons department. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:33, 14 June 2013 (EDT

http://www.gtav.net/screenshots/ - collection of official screenshots, might contain some weapons not already talked about. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

== Gameplay Video ==

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/09/first-grand-theft-auto-v-gameplay-video/

Go ahead and spot 'em. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:58, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

Dammit, Rockstar, take my money already! At 3:15, I can see an AW-type sniper rifle, a multi-shot grenade launcher (it looks similar to the hybrid grenade launcher in [[Resident Evil (2002 VG)|Resident Evil Remake]]), and a roll of dynamite in the weapon wheel. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:12, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png Got a screencap of Franklin with a tan M82A1M.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article on GTA V Gunplay ==
Found this article about the evolution of GTA V's gunplay on GTA Place. [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_v/b/xbox360/archive/2013/07/09/grand-theft-auto-v-gun-combat.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:39, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== New picture. ==

[[File:GTA5UNKNOWNPIST2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Bonshomme|Bonshomme]] 14:00, 10 July 2013 (CDT)

Is that seriously a rail on the side of the slide? [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 05:27, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

::Okay, I'm definitely not getting this game! Rockstar has always failed with the guns department (except in Max Payne 3), and that thing looks absolutely hideous. I'm done with the GTA series... Maybe when someone makes a skin mod for the guns, I'll get a copy... -.- --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 08:50, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Good. That leaves a copy for me. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::As if there will not be enough copies to go around, eh? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::While you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I always consider gun accuracy a +1 for me, incorrect weapon details isn't really much of a reason to not buy a game IMO (hell, I still got my copy of BO1). Again you are entitled to your opinion.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 11:06, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::: While I'm glad you won't be playing the game so as to avoid running into some joyless bother online, it seems to me more likely that the gun is a supposed to be some manner of TDI Kard, than whatever 1911/glock designed solely to offend your sensibilities you think it is. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::You have been playing too much Black Ops 2 if you think there is anything about that remotely resembling a Kard. It obviously has a conventional pistol layout with a slide, and the frame and general outline suggests a 1911. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:25, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Well, you know what they say: opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. I'm just sayin' you can't deny the fact that that... ''THING'' looks like a fugly frankengun, that should never see the light of day. I'm still hopin Rockstar has upped their gunplay from previous GTA titles, and made the gunplay (and the guns themselves) in this one a bit more realistic. You know, since they seem to be makin' this game another ground-breakin' masterpiece... Plus, I don't play with naive fanboys... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::If you would take the time to look at the trailer and use your words rather than skip to some nonsense about Black Ops 2, a game I haven't played not that it even matters, you might notice that Franklin uses the same pistol later in the trailer, his is fitted with an extended magazine and is seemingly firing on full auto, so, my suggestion that it's TDI Kard, I thought, might make a bit more sense than just losing your mind and writing off a whole title based on the appearance of a single handgun in the game. I can see how that might read as naivete though, I've had the wool pulled over my eyes and have been tricked into accepting a game in spite of the massive flaws it's exhibited in the design of one of it's firearms in a few seconds of footage and a screenshot or two, right?--[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 12:27, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::Yes. Btw, are you directing that comment to me or Commando552? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 16:45, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::At least some of it was directed at me so will address that part first. If your only evidance for it being a Kard is that it fires on full auto, then you should know that there are many other production pistols that are capable of full auto fire, not to mention the fact that it is possible to convert pistols to full automatic. Regardless of this, it is a game where they can give a gun whatever characteristics they choose so whether or not it is depicted as firing in full auto means nothing in real terms. Secondly, I have to say again it looks absolutely nothing like a Kard. If you can't see this then there is nothing that I can say to change your mind, but when I look at it I see absolutely nothing about the gun that suggests they based anything off of the Kard. If you put a gun to my head and made me take a guess at what it is meant to be I would probably say I highly customised (or very poorly modeled) full auto Glock, or maybe something like an Arsenal Strike One (which is available in FA/burst versions) but the shape is not really anything like one, it is just reminiscent of one if the "rail" on the front of the slide was actually the front slide serrations. In general can everyone chill out a bit about this game, we could do without the GTA talk pages degrading into a bitch fest like the COD ones historically have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:51, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I have to agree with Commando on the fact that it looks nothing like a Kard. Maybe a fuse of a badly-rendered Glock and a I9II... I also have to agree with Commando on the latter; regardless of my opinion on the possible depiction of guns/gunlay, there's no doubt that GTA V is going to be a great game (knowing Rockstar). Altough I still stand by my comment about not acquiring the game in the future, I realize that I shouldn't have been so outspoken about it, especially here, on the IMFDB. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 22:25, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
Well, look at MoH:WF, a game with accurate gun play but pretty mediocre everywhere else. Your opinion is yours, but what about Read Dead Redemption?[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:38, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Well don't get me wrong. I care about other elements besides gunplay such as gameplay and story. And as for RDR it was pretty accurate aside from a few minor mistakes.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 12:05, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::I agree with you, RDR was, and still is, pretty awesome. I still play it with my friends sometimes. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
Speaking of rails on the slide, it's been confirmed that we get weapon AND car customization to a pretty nice degree. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy the stories and the messages Rockstar provides in their games. But I've never been a fan of the GTA-gunplay. I'll be going for Saints Row IV this fall, instead of this. At least they don't even TRY to make the game realistic, so the gunplay is WAAAAY over the top. But that just makes it fun. PS. I enjoyed MOH:W... well, to a certain degree.--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Well, the gunplay that we've seen in the trailer (and confirmed in interviews) actually comes much more from Max Payne 3. You can run and gun without needing to aim and slow your movement, as well as switch between hard lock, soft lock, and full free aim in the options to suit your play style. You've still got the cover shooting and blindfiring, but you can actually be mobile in gunfights. There's also new options like being able to get in and out of a car while staying low to take cover behind it, as well as entering and exiting a car already shooting. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:33, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Has anyone considered that the pistol above could be a placeholder for something more real.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 15:40, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Its a possibility but given how we're two months away from release its unlikely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't think it is a placeholder, but I think there is a possibility that it is a bug where the wrong texture is on the model or it is using the low detail distance model or something, as there are several inconsistencies that make not sense. Firstly you have the fact that there is what appears to be a rail (which is scaled way too small) on the side of the slide. Then you have those weird horizontal black lines at the front of the slide and frame. Assuming that the black square at the back is meant to be the slide serrations, they span across both the slide and the top of the frame, which I have never seen on a real pistol. There are generally also lines all over the place on both the slide and frame which have no business being there on either a real gun, or a gun that is suggested by the silhouette of this. To top it off it also looks like it is ejecting rifle sized brass, but this is really the least of its problems. To me this gun looks ''so'' bad that it must be an error or something. It isn't just low detailed or simplified, or with random parts switched out for aesthetics, it actually appears deliberately FUBAR'd for no apparent reason. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:17, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I'm inclined to agree with Commando. All the guns on the page are designed relatively accurately except this one, which makes me think it's a texture bug. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:22, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

The Pistol is This ? Houge 1911 Avenger System - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:48, 6 August 2013 (JST)
[[File:1911 Avenger System.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hogue 1911 Avenger System]]

== AR 15 reloading ==

Did anyone notice in the new gameplay video that when Franklin pulls the charging handle of his AR15, a empty shell falls ?

Does that means that his gun jammed, or Rockstar Games made a shell fall each time the charging handle is pulled ? [[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 10 July 2013 (GMT)

:Probably the latter. And sign your posts by typing four tildes after them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:32, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

: It seems like they're doing the same thing as Metal Gear Solid 4, where Snake always racks the charging handle (ejecting an unfired round if it's a mid-mag reload) to chamber a fresh round after inserting the new magazine. This lets them stay realistically detailed while avoiding the +1 confusing that more casual players would have; keep it simple. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:23, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
::It really is kinda stupid and kinda lazy for animating a reload. Instead of programing someone doing nothing when you do a mid mag reload, they just left the reload animation program run, and I think the extra round coming out is really for the Hollywood effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:02, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
:: It's easier and less resource intensive to add a simple model of a cartridge flying out and use the same animation every time. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:01, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
Didn't he pull the charging handle a bit too far? [[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 16:20, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
::Looks pretty normal to me [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:06, 17 July 2013 (EDT)

Wouldn't also be more confortable to just hit the bolt release ? If doing a mid mag reload, nothing to do because a round is chambered, but it seems more natural to me to just hit the bolt release than racking the charging handle. [[User:Zebracherub|Zbracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 06:05, 28 July 2013 (GMT)

:It would, but this is GTA, where any random joe can hop in and know how to pilot a fighter plane or kill hundreds of people at a time without Homeland Security (or NOOSE, as they're called in-game) locking the city down like Guantanamo Bay NS, so it's not that big a deal IMO. Besides, I'd say this is just Rockstar showing off and proving they're still the pimps of the gaming industry. Aaargh! Why won't September 17th get here sooner?! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:08, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Theres lots of screen shots on the official site, some with weapons (an MP5 being fired by a SWAT member from an SUV). As for the flying part I thought they confirmed only Trevor is good at flying, it is possible there are missions the others learn to do that, SA had them, and we don't really know Niko didn't have any background in flying, Vercetti had little background at all and he was pretty old. As for the killing part most games have that I mean look at shooters even if we ignore the regeneration its quite improbable that one men can take out 20 in open shootout. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:32, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

:Nope, all three characters can operate any vehicle in the game, each one is just going to be better in one area than the others. This was confirmed by Rockstar in a Q&A posted on TGTAP forums. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

== CTAR-21 ==

I only noticed after editing the G11 to a CTAR-21, but does nayone know if this is meant to be the same gun just in different builds?
[[File:GTAVPossibleAUG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:GTAV TAR-21.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
From the fact that it is someone using the gun firing from a helicopter, at another helicopter, I would assume that this is the same piece of gameplay just with altered models. The confusing thing though is that the picture with the better correctly looking CTAR-21 is from November last year, as opposed to the crappy modded for no reason Tavor which is from a recent gameplay trailer. This would suggest that either the recent gameplay trailers used a '''very''' out of date build, or they deliberately messed with the weapons to make them less correct at some point during development, I would guess for legal reasons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:05, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
: It's fully possible that they altered the models to make them look different purely because they liked it better that way. They're making entertainment that looks good, not real-life gun porn. Aesthetic considerations are important. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:43, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
This is from the multiplayer trailer. It's definitely not in the TAR-21 family.
[[File:Gta5 online 32.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

A new screenshot was released showing a closer shot of the Tavor and it seems to have a P90-style fore-end.

[[File:GTA5-Tavor-Helicopter.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:06, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

== New Pictures ==

Two new photos have been released of a sniper rifle and that AP Pistol. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtav10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:gtav11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, I need to work at getting some caps from the new multiplayer trailer. But the apparent CTAR-21 (known in-game as the Advanced Rifle) actually doesn't really look like said gun in the final game except in the barest sense.

== New SMG ==

Thanks to iNero from GTA Forums for the picture. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:40, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtasmg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks like an oversized MP5A3.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 18:16, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
:: Highly doubt that. The only part of the shape that really matches an MP5A3 is the stock, and it has a short, straight magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Well as for the short mag, Rockstar said that weapon customization is going to be featured. So maybe the 10 round (civilian legal?) magazines is going to be an option. Also straight MP5 mags do exist. [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:47, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Straight MP5 magazines are older ones, and that doesn't match the pattern. The magwell is also too large for the magazine and it's sticking out at an awkward angle. And again, there's absolutely nothing that actually resembles an MP5 except for maybe the stock. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Looking at the SMGs currently documented on the site, I think it now looks similar to a [[FAMAE SAF]]
[[Image:SAF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAE SAF - 9x19mm]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:33, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Who labeled it a CZ Scorpion EVO 3? Looks a little like in the lower receiver/trigger guard area, but the rest is more MP5/SAF.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:23, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

:It looks like an MP5 with a sort of super-short G3 handguard. There's a closeup of it on one of the loading screens. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:00, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== M82? ==

Is it just me, or does the rifle in the first picture of the "Unknown Sniper Rifle" section (the one Franklin is holding on the roof) look a lot like an M82 variant? it has the muzzle brake and what we see of the body has the general shape. I don't have the pic now, but a recently released photo shows the sniper rifle on the weapon wheel photo and it's NOT the same gun. It actually looks closer to an Accuracy International rifle. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 03:39, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

It's a Barrett all right, check this screencap.
http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png
[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:38, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

== GTA Online Rifle ==
Found this over on Grand Theft Wiki.

[[File:GTAOnlineRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

They have it identified as a SCAR-L, but it's hard to make out. General shape is right for a SCAR, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:58, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== MK18 artwork ==
I separated it from the LR300 section since they clearly aren't the same weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:55, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

==Smith and Wesson M&P or Springfield XD? Can't identify.==
A person on another forum posted this pic of Michael holding a nickle plated handgun but the view is only from the top. I don't think it's a Glock because of the way the ejection port looks but I might be wrong. I can't see an exposed hammer. Any help?

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/fullsize/344.jpg

It could be a colored "AP Pistol". Paint jobs are among the weapon customization options. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:39, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: I don't think so. The side rails on the slide are so thick that they would be visible in this image. On GTA Forums there are suggestions that it's a S&W semi-auto. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 07:59, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
::The side rails on the AP pistol are just on the texture and not on the model aren't they? With a new skin the AP pistol could look totally different. Either way there isn't enough to go on from that shot to determine what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:17, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
:: It's difficult to tell. One other thing that makes me less convinced that it's the AP Pistol is that this gun has noticeable sights (The AP Pistol distinctly lacks them in all screenshots), and it seems to have a shorter barrel. It's almost definitely a separate gun, unless the customization options are more in-depth than we thought. Another suggestion might be a Taurus 24/7 or similar, as that gun is striker-fired, definitely comes in that finish, and has a similar sight profile from the top. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Side thought - is the AR that Franklin is holding missing the end of the buttstock or is that texture clipping? --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 15:10, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: Pretty sure that's just clipping. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

== Game Guide leak ==

Pics of the official game guide are turning up online.
http://imgur.com/a/ov4Rc#ZQjg5L3
http://imgur.com/a/vnbVM

No pics of the SMG or LMG sections yet. If you search for GTA V ammunation on youtube you'll find offscreen footage of a guy walking around the gun shop. You can see some sort of RPK clone on the wall.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:53, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
: No RPK, but the early game machine gun (the "MG") is pretty much just a PKM. Virtually all of the weapons in the game are already on the page. There's also an Assault Shotgun (which some say looks like a UTS 15 with a box magazine to resemble an AA-12), a sawed-off pump-action that may also be based on a Mossberg 500/590, the Combat Pistol (silver pistol held by Michael in the recently released trio pic, which reminds me of a Taurus PT 24/7 or Ruger P-series like the P97 with a stainless slide), and a Taser. The "unknown pistol" in the article is the PT92, which is apparently chambered in .45 ACP with a standard 12 round magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 00:05, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

== New SMG ==
This is an exclusive unlock for joining the Rockstar social club.

[[File:SC SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Not sure what it is myself. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:31, 13 September 2013 (EDT)

As far as I can see, it's 100% fictional. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 05:06, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yeah, seems so. And ugly as hell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:08, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:I see a birdcage flash hider, and the rest looks like the Halo 2/3 Battle Rifle. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 00:11, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

::Now that you mentioned that, I looked up what Halo battle rifle looks like, and I think this submachine gun might have also borrowed some design decisions from Halo's submachine gun. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:It also has a resemblance to the RCP-120 from Perfect Dark. [[User:RadiumMetal|RadiumMetal]] ([[User talk:RadiumMetal|talk]]) 17:21, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

== Barrett M-107 A1? ==

[[File:GTA5SNIPER1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

The muzzle brake and the right side of the gun, and also the color is very similar to the M-107 A1 than the AS50, is it real?

Check out the Gyazo link in my posts above. If you pause at the right moment, the rifle is a Barrett with a raised full length rail.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:36, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

== Combat Pistol ==

After unlocking the Combat Pistol in the game and using it quite a bit I'm thinking that it resembles some sort of HK pistol. Initially I thought it was like a USP Compact but I've thought it might be more like a HK45 or HK45c. I'm not sure though as at first I thought it was a Px4. Anyone else have any ideas what it could be? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 10:39, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
:The [http://gta.wikia.com/Weapons_in_GTA_V GTA Wiki] lists the combat pistol as the Taurus (well, they say Beretta but we know what they mean), or is that not the case in the final game? Also, that page has a picture of the assault shotgun, which appears to be an [[UTAS UTS-15]] which has been slightly messed with and had a box mag stuck on the bottom. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::The basic pistol is the Taurus not the combat pistol. They list the basic pistol as a P99 so it could be that the combat pistol is a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:53, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::I concur, the Combat Pistol definitely looks like a P99 to me. Glad they didn't rehash the 1911 or Glock again for the umpteenth time (not that I don't love 1911s and Glocks, I very much do ;D ). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Having got a decent look at it today I don't think it's a P99. It's got an exposed hammer and the general shape it more like a Beretta Px4 having taken a much closer look at it. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 18:45, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm only going by a tiny thumbnail (don't have the game) but it looks a bit like a [[CZ-G2000]] with a less sever angles around the trigger. This is pretty similar to the PX4, but I think it is a closer match as it has a square trigger guard and doesn't have an ambi safety (thumbnail I've seen is of the right side which lacks a safety). The profiling of the slide is also closer and the serrations look the same design (although there is one less band at both the front and back). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:37, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'd rather say a Px4 at this point. I've seen it up close (I DO have the game) and it looks a lot more like it was based on the Px4. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:06, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::I'm going to say having spend about half an hour moving the camera around trying to get really close shots of it that it is a Px4 more than anything else. The slide profile matches, the frame matches, the back of it matches. The only thing that doesn't match is the width of the slide serrations but that could just be a texture choice. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 12:53, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to venture a guess and say it's a combo of a Px4 and a P99, with the Px4 traits shining out the most. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:05, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know who it was who put the combat pistol as the H&K P2000 but it looks nothing like that. If it looks like any H&K pistol it's either the HK45c or the P30. I'm still leaning towards the Beretta Px4 though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 08:30, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

Picked up the guide yesterday evening while I was out and the "Combat Pistol" shown in it matches the general shape of the P2000, actually. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:20, 29 September 2013 (EDT)
:No one else sees a bit of the PT-909 in it?
[[File:Tau.jpg|thumb|none|800px]]
Remember no gun will be an exact match. They're all tweaked.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 18:10, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/4758e01a97e67d85191a02b267d98a60.png
The trigger guard and rail look P2000, but the rest resembles the Px4 to me.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:13, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

== Combat MG ==
It's not a Stoner, but rather an M60/M249 hybrid. Basically the stock of an M60, while everything in front of is is M249. Making appropriate changes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

== Guns on the TV programs ==

Killed a bit of time as Michael and watched the TV at his house. One of the channels was a FIB program called 'The Underbelly of Paradise'. One of the highlights was a few weapons on a table and one of the guns was a SIG P220-series pistol. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 21:57, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

There's also a brief shot of an M1911A1 cycling on an old-style crime show/movie and if you watch Jimmy playing ''Righteous Slaughter'' (a CoD/MoH/BF parody) in his room, the game character uses an XCR and a stainless steel Desert Eagle wielded tandem with a knife in the Harris stance. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

And the preview for the in-game movie ''The Simian'', which I saw while hanging out with Jimmy at a movie theater, has several shots of Hunter attack helicopters and at least one clear shot of the M230 chain gun on one of them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:25, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

== What's up with the Carbine Rifle changes? ==

Uhhh... Guys? The new Carbine really looks like the LR-300 and I thought it was agreed on. I don't know why we needed the change. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 20:03, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't the one who changed it, but I 100% agree with the change. First off, it isn't an LR-300 as the overriding unique feature about the LR-300 is that it doesn't have a buffer tube. This gun has a buffer tube. That is before we even get into the fact that the game gun has different furniture and a VLTOR MUR receiver rather than the unique LR-300 one. As with most of the weapons in the game this appears to be a hybrid gun at best, so it can't really be given a proper ID other than a custom AR-15. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:12, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:The assault rifle looks like a Hecker & Koch HK416 to me. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 8:43 AM (EST)
::It isn't, as far as I can tell there is not a single part on this that matches the HK416: the upper has the brass deflector built into the front of the forward assist like on a VLTOR MUR; the magazine fence on an HK416 is rounded whereas on this it is flat making it look more like one of the many different billet lowers that are available from various manufacturers; the stock is an ACE stocj which appears to be incorrectly depicted as extendable; the handguard is possibly a Daniel Defence MFR, but if not is definitely isn't a piston HK416 one. None of these parts are really perfect matches, but seeing the quality of the models on the other guns this isn't really to be expected. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:36, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Hmm...after looking through the M16 gallery, and the Colt AR-15 identification guide, and doing some googling, It seems like it COULD POSSIBLY be a hybrid of a Daniel Defense MFR and ZM LR-300, while trying to look like a HK416 (beefy handguard and short barrel), I can't shake it, to me it screams Franken-HK416, don't know why. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 1:02 PM (EST)
::::Look at the forwards assist and brass deflector area of this gun:[[File:GTAV_AR15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Note how the forward assist is a large flat faced wedge with the plunger coming out the bottom half of it, with a brass deflector attached at the top front corner. Now compare that to the below image:[[File:NovesDiplomat.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Noveske Rifleworks N4 Diplomat with VLTOR Modstock, EOTech sight and Surefire M900 weapon-light fore-grip - 5.56x45mm]]Notice they are a match. This is a unique thing that is only found on VLTOR MUR and VIS upper receivers (one pictured above is a VIS, MUR is the version without a monolithic handguard) and is due to the forward assist being able to be removed and replaced with a blanking plate fitted only with a brass deflector. Both the HK416 and the Z-M variants used different upper receiver designs to this, so it isn't either of them. I doubt that this is any factory gun in particular, it could be that the modellers just picked and chose various parts and stuck them together to make a gun they liked the look of, or it could be modelled off of a real custom gun that somebody has made. I don't get why people seem to think this is a HK416 (not just you, have seen people all over the place call it that) if the only thing they are going on is the fact it has a short barrel and a chunky handguard, there are a hell of a lot of guns that fit this description and are a closer match than an HK416, like this [[Media:POF P-416-11.JPG|Patriot Ordnance Factory P416]] for example. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:All the guns are hybrids, and the game's artists won't be familiar with the internals so I would go with the gun that is most similar in look, even if the similarities are all on the cosmetic parts and the dissimilarities affect the internals. Also the Combat SMG is an MP5 hybrid, not a Scorpion.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:15, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== pics of all guns except special edition weapons ==

I went and got the game guide. Here are pics of all the guns.

http://s13.postimg.org/5humxnsfr/gta_Weap.png

[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 15:23, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== ANALYSIS: Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 (Airsoft) ==

I've identified the firearm "Carbine Rifle", I analyzed it done here

[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-001.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]
[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-002.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]

Ace skeleton stock:

[[Image:Ace Stock Medium1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ace skeleton Stock]]

Reference: http://jagprecision.com/daniel-defense-m4-mfr-series-from-socom-gear/

PaulD21x (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2013 (VE)

Nailed it, nice.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:58, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:Not really, look a couple of sections above. The handguard is a Daniel Defence MUR (or at least a close approximation of one), but the upper receiver appears to be a VLTOR and the lower is not a DD one. Also you have the fact that the stock appears to be an Ace ARFX-E "Entry" stock which is the short one but this is fixed and not retractable, whereas this is extended out on the buffer tube like a regular AR-15 carbine style stock (I assume this is more due to ignorance rather than it being based on something else). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:43, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:I think it is a customized gun with a Daniel Defense MFR handguard, VLTOR MUR upper, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, the lower looks to be a NorthTech Billet receiver (with de fix trigger guard), the front BUIS is like a Troy Front sight and the rear a A2 type but simplified (or an unknow model), Hogue pistol grip (or any other model) and the ACE stock (but we can see they are nothing to move it because it is a fix stock and not a telescopic, an error). But it is not a basic model for me. --[[User:ArmaLite15|armalite15]] ([[User talk:Armalite15|talk]])

== "Combat Pistol" ==

Me again, noting that you guys missed a pistol.

Of course, this pistol is simply called the "Combat Pistol" and resembles the Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in a way. I have no way of getting screens and I haven't seen any so far. I haven't progressed far enough into the game to unlock it, but it can be viewed at the Ammunation stores if anyone had the game and wants to look. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:12, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
:No, we haven't missed it. Read a couple discussions above, we're still trying to come to a consensus on what it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:51, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

Ah, I see sorry. I missed that discussion. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:03, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

== Phone shots ==

So I hear you could take snaps using the in-game smart phone. Would it be possible to get some screenshots that way? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:37, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure, you have to sign up to Rockstar Social Network to do it, and I ''bet'' it watermarks them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:45, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
::Actually there is no watermark, but these pictures are only 640x360, and have a filter added that makes them look like low quality analog picture.--[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 15:34, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't think you can take phone pictures while armed, although you might get some from cops or security guards with guns, and take photos in the Ammu-Nation.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 21:30, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== In case you're wondering... ==

Cleetus' second hunting mission is bugged (hopefully forever) and when he tells you to hunt the last Elk it lets you wander the entire map with no possibility of triggering a police alert, meaning you can wander around in the military base to your hearts' content. You can keep anything you take by just causing an explosion (''anywhere'' on the map, but the jet's missiles don't count) which will spook the elk and let you quit out of the mission. I can't find anywhere to store the tank that Trevor can own, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:49, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm gonna have to exploit that. I've tried constantly to get a Titan, but I can never get it off the ground before a tank blows me up. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:54, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== Can we just settle on the "Carbine Rifle" by describing the components that it's constructed from? ==
It's obvious that it's not any named product (like the DDM4 it's currently IDed as but clearly is not), so can we just call it a custom AR-15 (like we do other franken ARs), ID it by its individual components, then be done with it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:30, 3 November 2013 (EST)

Moving these here for now, since I've changed the Carbine Rifle entry to reflect that it is ''not'' a DDM4.
[[File:DDM4sbr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DDM4 300 SBR with Magpul MOE stock, Magpul PMAG magazine, and KAC vertical foregrip - 300 BLK]]
[[Image:AF02-F-OT-ARFXE-ARULE-5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ace Skeleton Stock]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:53, 19 November 2013 (EST)

== Beach Bum pistol ==

A new handgun will be added in the next update/free DLC, called the "SNS"

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/xbox360/gta5/screens/gta5_269_605x.jpg

Probably a movie reference, perhaps it's a Walther PP of some form.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2013 (EST)

Beach Bum pack is out, the SNS pistol looks like a Heckler & Koch P7 M13 fitted with wood grips and a round trigger guard.[[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 20:01, 19 November 2013 (GMT)

== Gun pic on Social Club ==

Close view of the most used gun can be seen in the Social Club.

[[File:SocialClubAR15.jpg]]

This is a Northtech Billet lower, VLTOR Upper, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip but the upper is strange, it is raised up like the HK-416. And the handguard is very close to the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0..[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 19:43, 17 November 2013

== "Carbine Rifle" mounting an image ==

Since I edited the image from Photoshop, is a mixture: that's to HK-416 - Northtech Billet lower, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, Ace Skeleton Stock And the handguard is the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0
[[File:GTAVCARBINERIFLEMIXTURE.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 21:23, 21 November 2013

Is that a Pimpmygun pistol grip? [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:06, 21 November 2013 (EST)

No, I'm pretty sure he just Shopped in the grip from the Social Club image above. Also, if you wanted to create a composite, you could have just done an image search for the actual lower receiver used (I found plenty on Bing), because as has been previously stated, '''not a single component on this gun corresponds to the HK416'''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:39, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:There is possibly part of an HK416 potentially in there, as in the social club image you can see that the shape of the top rail at the rear steps down ahead of the charging handle like an HK416, which is not the case with a VLTOR MUR which the rest of the receiver is. This composite photoshop just uses a vanilla HK416 upper though which is not correct for the game gun. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:15, 22 November 2013 (EST)

It's all moot now, because I've solved the image problem. Found this during a Bing search for "gta v carbine rifle".

[[File:GTA5-Carbine-Rifle-Example.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The in-game "Carbine Rifle" - 5.56x45mm]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:On seeing that, it looks like it has an HK416 gas block as well. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 22 November 2013 (EST)

== Combat MG ID and non-player weapons ==
This is a response to Ultimate94 recently changing the MK46 Mod 0 ID back to Mod 1. The Mod 1 lacks a 12 o'clock Picatinny, using the M249 heat shield instead. This was done, AFAIK, to facilitate the re-inclusion of the carry handle. The Combat MG has a Picatinny rail in this position (albeit a low profile one), which would therefor make it a Mod 0. The weapon render linked to on the GTA Wiki is far too small to discern any details from, so doesn't prove anything.

Why were the non-player weapons added back to the main categories? Every other GTA game on IMFDb is formatted with non-player weapons in a separate "Other" category. What's the objection to this page being the same?

The artwork of Michael holding the MK18 doesn't appear in the game as a loading screen (unlike the Type 56 artwork), so it should be deleted from the page. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:42, 30 December 2013 (EST)

== Valentines Day M1928 Thompson ==
So there's going to be a free Chicago Typewriter coming up.
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/news/article/52186/Coming-this-Friday-The-GTA-Online-Valentine-s-Day-Massacr[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:23, 11 February 2014 (EST)

It's classed as an LMG in-game, with superior stats compared to the PKM (except for mag capacity), making it a good choice for anyone who hasn't unlocked the PKM, or someone who can live without the extra ammo capacity or aim-down-sight zoom (Tommy Gun doesn't get an optic) until they unlock the M249/M60 hybrid --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (EST)

You can acquire a PKM in a few places right at the start of the game if you know where to look, though. Inside the gate at the Vagos' compound in East LS, for example (as long as you aren't wearing Families colors, you'll have plenty of time to get in and out before their threats turn into gunfire... usually). You just can't buy any mods for it yet. Quite a few weapons are ripe for the picking if you know where to look, actually. Type 56, MP5, MGL, AW, Minigun (''extremely'' hard to get as it's inside Fort Zancudo, though), Super Shorty, RPG, Assault Shotgun (another hard one to get, as it's pretty deep inside the Altruists' mountain compound), grenades, Jerry can, and Molotov cocktails. The Mossberg Cruiser can be acquired quite easily from police as long as you escape your wanted level quick, or if you happen upon a chase and follow until it erupts into a shootout (the criminals usually win LOL). A Carbine Rifle can also be effortlessly acquired from an isolated Merryweather mercenary at their LS Port "turf" if one is careful (I wouldn't advise trying to get one from the LSPD officers lingering around LS International, though). I like having the Thompson in the game, don't get me wrong, but it's largely a gimmick weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 05:44, 8 March 2014 (EST)

== Removing images ==

I'm in favor of keeping the PKM image on the page, but only because this page is currently incomplete and it's the only screenshot available. I expect a better image will be available when more screencaps are available and the page is completed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:49, 25 February 2014 (EST)

== Cut weapons ==

So I just found this, worthy of mention in the discussion page at least:
http://gtaforums.com/topic/678397-the-gta-v-beta-hunt/page-6

In addition to several melee weapons, there are some icons for the XM25, a DMR variant of the AR-15 (seems to be referred to as M14), a HK21, and a SCAR-H.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:44, 26 February 2014 (EST)

A poster there states they weren't cut, but rather just aren't enabled for player use. So maybe Rockstar is holding them back as future DLC? I'd love to have that AR-15 sniper rifle (which resembles an M110A1, which, AFAIK, is an M110 with the fixed stock replaced with a collapsible one). I always felt the next upgrade from the bolt action should have been a semi-auto .308, with the Barrett placed in the slot with the MGL, RPG, and Minigun, and made to do more damage to vehicles. The stock on the SCAR's in-game render looks like it was taken from the LSAT machine gun, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:29, 26 February 2014 (EST)

== New upcoming DLC ==
The "Heavy Pistol" and "Special Carbine" will be released next week.
[[File:GTAV-HeavyPistol-SpecialCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
The carbine is clearly a G36K, but the pistol seems to be a 1911 of some kind. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:23, 27 February 2014 (EST)

From looking at the gun itself and at the Social Club page, I think the pistol looks a lot more like a 1911 than an FNX-45, or maybe some sort of Kimber-esque thing. The grip and grip panels look far more 1911 than FN. Cheers, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
*EDIT: here's a link that shows the Social Club image, and shows how it more resembles either a regular 1911 or some sort of Kimber-style tactical model: http://gta.wikia.com/Heavy_Pistol [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

It most resembles a [[Springfield_Armory_1911_Series#Springfield_Armory_Tactical_Response_Pistol_.28TRP.29|Springfield TRP Operator]] with the slide derived from the OTs-33 to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:44, 4 March 2014 (EST)

definitely looks like a Springfield TRP operator with mabye some cz97 http://www.lipseys.net/images/CZ01411.jpg?maxwidth=520--[[User:Anarchy66660|Anarchy66660]] ([[User talk:Anarchy66660|talk]]) 22:03, 4 March 2014 (EST)

That's definitely a TRP Operator frame, the new pistol doesn't resemble an FNP very much. The slide looks like a flatter version of a normal 1911.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:43, 4 March 2014 (EST)

== Heavy Pistol ==

Could the heavy pistol be an Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911?
[[File:Steel_Full_Rail_Gun_5.jpg|thumb|none|350px|]]
The slide is very flat like the heavy pistol, they both have the full dust cover rail, wide rear cocking serrations, and lack of front cocking. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:14, 8 March 2014 (EST)

I think you got it, looks dead on to me. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:01, 8 March 2014 (EST)
:It is pretty close, but I think that is just coincidence. There are a number of differences that suggest it is not based on this gun such as the fibre optic sights, different numbers of slide serrations, lack of a beavertail (or in fact a grip safety at all by the look of it), a seemingly changeable curved backstrap, slanted rather than vertical trigger guard front, different grips, and most definitively the fact that it has a single rather than double stack frame. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:29, 8 March 2014 (EST)
::None of the guns in the game are exactly modeled after anything. The Taurus has a different number of slide serrations, a different hammer, etc. Hell, look at the "Desert Eagle." The Heavy Pistol is at least a lot closer to this gun, than the Operator. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 12:12, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
:::To me it seems much more likely that the guy who made it simply messed around with a standard 1911 rather than modelling it after a relatively obscure custom gun though. To be honest a lot of the gun IDs on this page are pretty far fetched, in particular the so-called "OTs-33 Pernach" which looks absolutely nothing like one (to me this gun actually looks like it is the bottom half of a 2nd series [[Colt Woodsman]] with some tactical crap slapped on the top). Weapons which appear to be fictional but bear a vague (possibly coincidental) resemblance to something real should not be definitely listed as this (such as saying that "The Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911, released with the "Business Update" DLC, appears as the Heavy Pistol." which is not really the case). For most of these guns the proper thing to do would be to have the heading for the section be, for example, "Heavy Pistol" and state underneath that it is a 1911 type pistol bearing some similarities to the Enterprise Arms Wide Body 1911 but with several notably differences. Similarly for the "Special Carbine", not a single part of that is actually taken from a real Heckler & Koch G36C, it is just a random collection of different parts (some of them real, like the [http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-pistol-grips/id-1/m16-m4-ar15-tactical-ergonomic-pistol-grip.html FAB Defense AG-43 AR-15 pistol grip]) which have been assembled into the vague shape of a G36C--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:17, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
::::I think the SpeCarbine has G36K resemblence in the upper receiver/ handguard and top rail, just a lot more flat than the real thing. The AP pistol definitely has a Woodsman grip, the slide was probably incorrectly based on a Kriss KARD. The frame of the SNS pistol resembles the HK P7M10, too.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:23, 2 April 2014 (EDT)

== Bullpup Rifle ==
It looks like it has a 7.62x39mm AK magazine, so shouldn't it go in the rifles category despite it being classified as an SMG in-game? Same goes for the "Assault SMG", which clearly has a 20-round AR-15 mag. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:18, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think it was put in the SMG category by accident, "Bullpup Rifle" clearly indicates it is going to be classified as an assault rifle. Looks like a hybrid of the QBZ-95 and it's B carbine.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:48, 2 April 2014 (EDT)
:I think that it's a shame that it's a QBZ at all and not the L85 it looked like in one piece of concept art (below)
[[File:Gtao-hl-bpr.jpeg]]

== AP Pistol ==

I just saw this on Modern Firearms. http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/scamp-e.html Does anyone else think the AP Pistol looks more like the Colt SCAMP than the OTs-33 Pernach? [[User:Rockinthecasbah|Rockinthecasbah]] ([[User talk:Rockinthecasbah|talk]]) 18:35, 10 April 2014 (EDT)

== Love all the vehicles and weapons as free DLC, I really do, but... ==
It would be nice if we got something other than just pistols and assault rifles. There's already more of those than any other weapon type. I wish they'd add some of the cut weapons detailed a few sections up (M110-style sniper rifle, XM25-style grenade launcher, etc.) in addition to new stuff. Would love an MP7A1 and a Carl Gustav rocket launcher, for example. Maybe add some new weapon attachments like laser sights and different optics. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:06, 13 May 2014 (EDT)

File:Gtao-hl-bpr.jpeg

2014-05-13T16:30:57Z

Sandymon: Concept art for GTA's High Life Update

Concept art for GTA's High Life Update

DayZ

2014-05-05T14:01:46Z

Sandymon: /* M4A1 Carbine */

{{WIP}}

{{Infobox Video Game|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = ''DayZ''
|picture = DayZLogo.jpg
|date = 16th December 2013
|developer = Bohemia Interactive Studio
|platforms = PC
|publisher = Bohemia Interactive Studio
|genre = Survival Horror
}}

{{Game Title}}
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= Handguns =

== FN FNP-45 Tactical ==

The [[FN FNP#FNX-45 Tactical|FN FNP-45 Tactical]], called the "FNX-45" in game, is one of the .45 semi-automatic handguns in the game. It uses 15 round .45 ACP magazines, and accepts a red-dot sight as well as pistol flashlight. The model appears to be a redone version of the "4-Five .45" taken from [[ArmA 3]], as it even sports the same attachments.

[[File:FNP45Tac.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FNP-45 Tactical with Trijicon RMR red dot sight - .45 ACP]]

[[image:DayZ_fnx_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FPS view of the FN FNP-45.]]

[[Image:DayZ_fnx_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inspection view of the FN FNP-45.]]

[[image:Dayz_fnx_inv2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A much more customized FNP, with suppressor and underbarrel light.]]

== AWC Amphibian S Ruger MKII ==
The [[Ruger Mk II|AWC Amphibian S Ruger MKII]] appears ingame as the "Amphibia S", using a standard 10-round .22LR magazine. It is incredibly quiet, being almost undetectable by players beyond very close range. It is intriguing that a very expensive variant of a pistol used by U.S. Navy SEALs appears in the game at all.
[[File:Awc amphinian mk2 ss.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Black AWC Amphibian S Ruger MKII - .22LR]]

[[File:DayZ_SA_MK2_PreRelease.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pre-release screenshot of the MK II.]]

[[image:dayz_mk3_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Going into that door looks a bit dangerous. Good thing this survivor has his MKII handy.]]

[[image:dayz_mk3_world.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Cancer Cowboy's suppressed MKII won't give him away, but his laboured gas mask breathing might.]]

[[image:dayz_mk3_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inventory view of the MKII. If it looks like a magazine isn't loaded, that's because there isn't one.]]

== CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW ==

The [[CZ 75#CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW|CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW]] is available, known ingame as the CR 75, and is made by "Cheraruska Zbrojovka", an odd spin on the real world [[CZ]] company.

[[File:CZ 75 SP-01 SHADOW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|CZ-75 SP-01 SHADOW - 9x19mm]]

[[image:Dayz_cz75_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A survivor rounds a corner, his CZ 75 drawn.]]

[[image:Dayz_cz75_world.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Cancer Cowboy shows off his CZ 75 in the sun of the afternoon.]]

[[image:Dayz_cz75_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SHADOW is an interesting choice, being a more high-spec, less common version of the CZ75.]]

== Kimber Warrior ==

A slightly-modified [[Kimber Warrior]] appears ingame as the "1911". Unlike the real Kimber Warrior, the in-game 1911 has a traditional M1911-styled rear sight, and has straight slide serrations rather than angled ones. It takes standard 7-round magazines and can sport a pistol flashlight, due to its rails.

[[File:KimberWarriorII.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kimber Warrior - .45 ACP]]

[[image:dayz_1911_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A survivor trains his M1911A1 on a forest, quietly hoping for some wildlife to snack on.]]

[[image:dayz_1911_world.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the Cancer Cowboy practices his M1911A1 quickdraw, he hears his SKS on his back has called him a rude word.]]

[[image:dayz_1911_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inventory view of the M1911A1. A lovely bit of kit, that's for sure.]]

== Thompson Center Arms Contender ==
A [[Thompson Center Arms Contender]] is due to appear as the "Longhorn" pistol. It will use 7.62x51mm ammunition and can sport a scope (that is erroneously mounted backwards).
[[File:ThompsonCenterG2Contender.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Thompson Center G2 Contender 14" Target Pistol - .223 Remington]]
[[File:DayZ SA ThompsonG2 PreRelease.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A survivor holds her Thompson Center Arms Contender in a pre-release screenshot. Note the backwards-mounted scope and compound crossbow.]]

= Revolvers =

== Colt Python ==

A chrome [[Colt Python]], known as the "Magnum .357" in-game, appears as (currently) the only revolver in the game. The Colt Python is correctly chambered in .357 Magnum, and accepts a speedloader for faster reloading.

[[Image:ColtPython6In.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|Colt Python with 6" Barrel - .357 Magnum]]

[[image:DayZ_python_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FPS view of the Python. Notice the stark chrome finish.]]

[[image:DayZ_python_world.jpg|thumb|none|600px|World view of the Python.]]

[[image:DayZ_python_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inspection view of the Colt Python.]]

= Shotguns =

== Baikal IZH-43 ==
The [[Baikal IZH-43]] appears as the "IZH-43", and correctly uses 12 Gauge (Both pellets and slugs). A Sawed-Off IZH-43 can be created using a hacksaw, increasing the recoil and decreasing accuracy but taking up less inventory space. It can be loaded with twin-shell speedloaders.
[[Image:Baikal izh43.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Baikal IZh-43 hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge]]

[[file:DayZ_DBShotgun_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FPS view of the Baikal. It is considerably worn and rusty, but the game considers it Pristine, the highest condition available.]]

[[file:DayZ_DBShotgun_world.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A survivor peers over at his invisible friend, whom is sitting on that red chair, defended by the Baikal IZH-43 wielding biker.]]

[[file:DayZ_DBShotgun_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inventory view of the Baikal.]]

[[file:DayZ_DBShotgun_sawnoff.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shotgun sawn down with a hacksaw. Interestingly, sawmarks are visible on the barrel, as apposed to most games, where it just happens.]]

= Rifles =

== M4A1 Carbine ==

The [[M4A1 Carbine]] appears, being the only select-fire weapon as of yet. It is correctly chambered in 5.56x45mm ammo, and features the widest amount of customization available to any weapon (Accepting everything from black and OD Magpul stocks and handgrips, to Aimpoint M68 CompM2 and ACOG sights, as well as bipods and flashlights.) It also has the largest variety of magazines; being the standard 30-round STANAGS, as well as 10, 20, 30 and 40 round Magpul P-Mags (All in fashionable black and OD green) and two coupled 30 round STANAG mags.

[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with 4 position collapsible stock - 5.56x45mm]]

[[image:DayZ_M4_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FPS view of the M4A1. Unfortunately, those bullets on the top of the exposed magazine never deplete.]]

[[image:DayZ_M4_noscope.jpg|thumb|none|600px|World view of an M4A1. This particular model has a Magpul foregrip. It has also had it's carrying handle removed. This renders anything beyond 50m shooting a bit useless.]]

[[image:DayZ_M4_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inspection view of an M4A1, with a set of coupled 30 round STANAG magazines.]]

[[image:DayZ_m4_40pmag.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A survivor poses with his M4A1, loaded with a 40 round Magpul PMAG.]]

== Mosin Nagant M91/30 ==

The [[Mosin Nagant M91/30]] appears as the "Mosin 9130". The weapon incorrectly uses 7.62x51mm ammo (and prior to the addition of the [[SKS]], used ambiguous "7.62mm Ammo"). The Mosin-Nagant M91/30 can be equipped with a few attachments, including a 12x Scope, M44 Compensator, and M91 bayonet. The Mosin-Nagant can be spray painted black, green, or a camouflage mix of both.

[[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Soviet Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54mm R]]

[[image:dayz_mosin_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A survivor holds his Mosin, while some clouds make for a foreboding image.]]

[[image:dayz_mosin_world.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Cancer Cowboy peeks out at the daylight, his Mosin trained on something suspicious.]]

[[image:dayz_mosin_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inventory view of a Mosin 9130.]]

== SKS ==
A Yugoslavian [[SKS]] M59/66 appears, simply, as the "SKS". It is correctly chambered in 7.62x39mm, and accepts a bayonet as well as PU scope. The SKS, like the Mosin-Nagant, can be spray painted either black, green, or a camouflage mix of the two.
[[Image:YugoSKS.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 - 7.62x39mm]]

[[image:dayz_sks_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A survivor gets a strange feeling that he may have left his needle in that haystack, and asks his SKS for help finding it.]]

[[image:dayz_sks_world.jpg|thumb|none|600px|All a matter of waiting, the Cancer Cowboy takes aim on a fence, with his SKS.]]

[[image:dayz_sks_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inventory view of the SKS.]]

[[image:dayz_sks_inv2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An SKS, painted black for the owner's amusement. A bayonet has also been attached.]]

[[Image:DayZ_SA_SKS_Reload.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A survivor reloads his SKS. Note the speedloader used to quickly add all 10 rounds.]]

== Blaser B95 "Luxor" ==

The Blaser B95 "Luxor" appears as the "Blaze 95 Double Rifle", chambered in 7.62x51mm (Which is one of many calibers the B95 supports). It has a measly two round capacity, but is very accurate.

[[Image:Blaser_B95_762x51.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Blaser B95 "Luxor" Hunting Rifle - 7.62x51mm]]

[[Image:DayZ_SA_B95_PreRelease.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pre-Release screenshot of the B95]]

[[image:dayz_95_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Surveying his empire of dirt, a survivor admires his last possessions: A chair, a cupboard, and his Blaser 95.]]

[[image:dayz_95_world.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Cancer Cowboy lies in the dirt, spooked by something that his Blaser 95 can, probably, deal with rather efficiently.]]

[[image:dayz_95_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inventory view of the Blaser 95. Those engravings won't do much good against a zombie.]]

== Ruger 10/22==
The [[Ruger 10/22]] is featured, as the "Sporter-22" and manufactured by "Kruger Arms" (a common spin on Ruger-based firearms for copyright issues). It can utilize either the standard 10 round rotary magazine or use a 30 round aftermarket magazine.

[[Image:Ruger1022.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger 10/22 (post-2005 model) - .22LR]]

[[image:Dayz_ruger_fps.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Poking around a corner with a Ruger 10/22 drawn.]]

[[image:Dayz_ruger_world.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This Village Person is making himself wet! Or maybe it's the rain. Or maybe his 10/22 and it's very attractive 10-round magazine.]]

[[image:Dayz_ruger_inv.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Inventory view of the Ruger 10/22.]]

[[image:Dayz_ruger_inv2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rugers, like most wooden weapons, can be spraypainted. This one has been painted black, and has a 30-round magazine.]]

[[Category: Video Game]]
[[Category: Zombie]]
[[Category: Post Apocalyptic]]

Talk:Grand Theft Auto V

2014-03-04T20:36:08Z

Sandymon: /* New upcoming DLC */

== new page and type 56-2 ==

Hi!
I made this kinda quick. Didn't have a lot of time to check errors.
I'm relatively new to the editing in this site. So if any veteran
around with more knowledge could help improve the article would be indeed
great.
When it comes to the weapon, I believe it's a Norinco Type 56-2 since the stock
looks like the one in a Type 56-2. Otherwise correct if I'm wrong.
Also one of the guys seems to have a laser sight. Don't know which sort though
[[User:Santos|Santos]] 17:08, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

The rifles seem to have some sort of rail system on them... which I think is a shame--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 10:55, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

:Most likely is the handguard with picatinny rails. The guy knocking on the van leading those other two men, seems to have a laser sight attached to it. This is a handguard is from FAB-Defense. http://www.fab-defense.com/images/big-details/ak-47-1.jpg

One of the screenshots mentions "excellent" trigger discipline, to me it looks like his finger is actually on the trigger as there is a small curve in the shape of the finger, I wouldn't refer to that as excellent trigger discipline. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:42, 1 December 2011 (CST)

:To me it looks like the guy is holding his finger just slightly above the trigger area, not excellent but still better than most games have, to be honest the only game i can remember that had great trigger discipline was MGS4 where Snake kept his finger completely off the triggers of all weapons unless he was aiming them, but i think that since they're both video games, bad trigger discipline can be excused since i doubt developers want to spend who knows how many hours giving every character separate finger animations for trigger discipline, and also there is the fact that the character can have their fingers wrapped around the triggers, but the players have theirs completely off the fire button, so essentially, it's our own 'trigger' discipline that video game characters have (least that's how i see it) we should save the bad trigger discipline arguments for movies.[[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 16:26, 8 March 2012 (CST)
::Add ''[[ArmA 2]]'' to the list of games with excellent trigger discipline. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

== M4? ==

Help to identify; looks like a M4 rifle with longer (?) and suppressed barrel. [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] ([[User talk:Pawelm|talk]]) 13:55, 10 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I would say that it has a shorter barrel than an M4A1. I would say it's a suppressed [[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 14:21, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Suppressor resembles an AAC model which covers more of the barrel than the KAC suppressors we commonly see, so it's possible it could still be an M4. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:10, 10 November 2012 (EST)

:If it was an M4 length barrel, there would be no suppressor left to actually trap the gas to suppress the weapon. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 22:24, 10 November 2012 (EST)

looks like it has the older CAR-15 style stock [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:38, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:What people refer to as CAR-15s (XM177, XM177E1, XM177E2 etc) were fitted with a stock that was made of aluminium with a black polymer coating as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#2nd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. Later Colt carbines up to and including the M4 had a synthetic fiberlite stock as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#3rd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. The easiest way to tell them apart are the vertical reinforcing ribs that are present on the side of the fiberlite stock, which are present in the game gun. As this stock can be found on Mk. 18s, Model 933s and M4s (all of which this gun could be depending on how the suppressor fits) that doesn't really help. However as the gun has the slim handguard rather than the thicker double heat shield M4 handguard, my best guess would be a Mk. 18. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:03, 11 November 2012 (EST)
::What I think he meant was this is the 3rd Gen stock, the four-position plastic, not the newer six-position.--[[User:Sangheili1155|Sangheili1155]] ([[User talk:Sangheili1155|talk]]) 02:43, 12 November 2012 (EST)
I've seen scans that show one of the other characters holding that weapon without a suppressor on it. I'd definitely go with Mk.18 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 01:12, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure that this is why this image is in this section, but I cant believe these animated pictures as validation for the weapons in the game. GTA IV had MANY weapons in the loading screens that for what ever reason never made it to the final product.--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:05, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:Check the [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] page and you'll notice we include loading screen weapons on it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

::If a weapon is in the game and can be identified, then it should be identified. This includes artwork, loading screens, stock footage, in-game posters, whatever; if it's a clear and identifiable shot it's included. Weapons only seen in previews can also be included as long as the image is from a legitimate source and not leaked. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (EST)

Cover for the latest Game Informer magazine. You can see the suppressor is missing but the muzzle and the barrel is missing [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Weapon Selection hope==

So I don't know about most of you, but one of the worst aspects to these games is the frank lack of weapons for which you to use. I am not saying that the game doesn't need 100 different firearms, but there is no need to use the low level weapons once the higher tier weapons are unlocked (compare the Glock and Desert Eagle in GTA IV, how often do you use the Glock after unlocking). If nothing else I hope that this game has at least 3-4 variations in firearm. There are tons of vehicles to choose from, but you dont spend most of your time offing people with cars. Having to use the same repetitive weapon again and again bores me. What are your thoughts?--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:09, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Four or five options of each type sound good to me. I'm hoping we get a silenced pistol again this time. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)

:@Spartan198, exactly! The way I have seen it (for example), in the pistol category there should be a standard (Glock), Hi standard (1911), Burst (Beretta 93R), Special (Silenced [if no ability to customize]), and Magnum (Desert Eagle/Equivilant). Now this is a very basic look, but I think you can catch my drift. Same thing for shotguns where there should be a Double Barrell (For range and/or sawed off), Pump (Mossberg), Semi Auto (Benelli M4), and Automatic (USAS-12/AA-12). You can make any adjustments for which weapons are in which category does not matter. But the differences. --[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 12:45, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Seeing the silenced 56-2s in the reveal; its likely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 01:25, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping to see an [[Ithaca 37]] in this like in San Andreas, being that this is taking place in the same fictional Los Angeles. --[[User:QueenSasha24|QueenSasha24]] ([[User talk:QueenSasha24|talk]]) 04:01, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping for a SIG P226 myself this time around, but with the 92FS, that's looking unlikely. I like Valiant's system of classification, though. Using that system, I'd like to see assault rifles classified like this: an AKMS without a stock (low accuracy, short range), the Type 56 (medium accuracy, short range), the AR-15 variant (high accuracy, medium range), TAR-21 (high accuracy, long range). A grenade launcher attachment (if the weapons are customizable) would be nice, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:38, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

==Trailer 2==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzue74y7A84

The only new weapon I see looks to be an M4 type at 1:15. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:05, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Aaaargh! Why won't videos stream for me? It's been like this for the past 3 days! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:34, 15 November 2012 (EST)

== Trailer #2 Screenshots ==

[[File:Gta5-1.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 platform rifle]]
[[File:Gta5-2.JPG|200px|thumb|none|The handguard is longer than M4-style one]]
[[File:Gta5-3.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 style rifle, looks a bit like a HK416 to me, also the guy on the right has the same, or very similar gun]]

The rifle on the 3rd screencap looks like a HK416 variant (handguard with these thin vents). Also the rifle in 1st and 2nd screenshot seems to be different than the one in the 3rd. It has a black magazine, in games a gun rarely can have a mag swapped out. :D --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:06, 15 November 2012 (EST)

PS sorry for the black bars guys :\ --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:08, 15 November 2012 (EST)

:I'm guessing it is the same rifle in all 3 caps. Also, in the first screencap you can see the distinctive forward assist/brass deflector that is used on VLTOR VIS and MUR upper receivers ([[Media:NovesDiplomat.jpg|here]] is a picture of a Noveske Diplomat with a VIS upper showing the forward assist). Although these uppers are used on Noveske rifles, I don't think this is one as the handguard is wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:22, 15 November 2012 (EST)

It looks like more an AAC Honey Badger (look at the stock and the bolt) than an HK416 or AR-15-like rifle for the 3rd picture. --[[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]])
:Several reasons why I don't think it is a Honey Badger: firstly, the stock on the Honey Badger extend on rails on the side of the receiver like an MP5, as opposed to this where it extends along the buffer tube in typical Colt Carbine fashion; secondly it appears that it has a VLTOR VIS/MUR upper receiver based on the design of the combined forward assist and brass deflector which the Honey Badger doesn't; lastly, even if you disagree that it is a VLTOR upper it definitely has a forward assist, which the Honey Badger does not just having a normal brass deflector. In what way do you think the bolt makes it a Honey Badger they are pretty much the same on a typical AR-15 and a Honey Badger aren't they? (with the exception of the FA serrations, but from these screenshots you cannot tell whether they are there or not.) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:30, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Very usefull thing i found ==

Hey guys i think this thread has everything about Weapons for GTA V, GTA Fans are really great at spotting things http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=532181&st=0
--[[User:Faizanali|Faizanali]] ([[User talk:Faizanali|talk]]) 03:38, 20 November 2012 (EST)
: As a member of GTA Forums, I can reliably say that anything you see there should be taken with the biggest dose of salt in history. Like, something from Big Bone Lick State Park. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 04:06, 20 November 2012 (EST)

== 1911 and Glock ==
A new artwork was revealed, and it has a 1911 and a glock variant. We should put on the main page?--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] ([[User talk:Flavio|talk]]) 15:16, 4 January 2013 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_PISTOLS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== New trailers ==

There's new guns found in the trailer of GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]) 18:06, 30 April 2013 (EST)
[[Image:ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is an AR-15 variant, the same as seen in the trailer 2.]]
[[Image:ar-15 variant 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closer view of the variant.]]
[[Image:assault rifle gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new assault rifle, I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. It seems this is a Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:type 56 gangster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type 56-2 in the hands of a gangster.]]
[[Image:type 56 trevor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor shoots his type 56-2.]]
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v new stock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new stock on Franklin's Mossberg 590 Cruiser.]]

I got some better images of the weapons that I'll be adding to the article. Here's a better shot of the unknown rifle; it looks kinda like a SCAR-H, but there's bits that aren't right.

Looks more like a weird FAL--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:41, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, here's a shot of the pistol used by Michael in the rappelling scene. I can't identify it, but it almost looks to have an orange tip like an airsoft gun and no hammer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:58, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[http://gyazo.com/ca7fae1d3d648ca8a2623bb5adb2bbbf.png?1367374112]] Not sure if it's a Hi-Power or 1911, on Michael's TV. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:11, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm also thinking some kind of short-barreled FAL for the new AR, judging by the magazine and shape of the mag well. It and the Tavor are certainly new and different choices considering GTA's past being dominated by the combo of an AK and M16 variants, which is a good thing. That's four assault rifles altogether now so far (five if the CQBR on concept art shown above is included in the game), so let's hope the other weapon categories have as diverse a selection. And considering how big the weapon selection in [[Red Dead Redemption|RDR]] was, I'm feeling pretty confident about it. Maybe my wish for a P226 could still come to pass after all? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:10, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a higher resolution cropped image of the mystery rifle.

[[File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg]]

It has the heat shield, gas block, and front sight of an M249, the magazine looks more like a belt bag, and the stock looks derived from the fixed stock of the Masada/ACR. The optic is an out-of-scale Elcan SpecterDR and it has a Magpul AFG2 foregrip. The receiver area lacks details, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's some kind of M249-based machine gun. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:15, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Now that you said that I start to see it, but my first bet was FAL, in the end it could just be a butchered MG, the stock doesn't somehow look m249ish to me and the heat shield seems tiny.--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 11:13, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

:After re-watching the trailer, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg light machine gun]. The ammo pouch gets a bit more obvious in motion and it's certainly an ammo pouch, not a 20 round 7.62 magazine. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 04:05, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

::I bet it turns out to be something ''really'' stoopid like an LSAT with a modified handguard. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:34, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

:::That horrified me for a moment, but I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that LSAT is tucked a bit further away then the pool of common firearms that appear in GTA. It will be some monstrosity of the natural order regardless. -[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

Seems to be a new pistol, but I can't ID it.[http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:52, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Could be a beretta. Weird pouch like a 50 rounder or something, but yeah now its definitely an butchered mg. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:35, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Underside of the trigger guard is straight, all Beretta models are rounded downward. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

DRD Tactical Paratus? [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 10:33, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

You mean the one to the left (its more likely an M4 would make sense for a game not centered around gun pron to have a generic well known firearm rather than some obscure one) if you mean the MG probably even more unlikely to me for now its seems like a franke-gun or at least a horribly scaled one. On a side note look at the one in the case the sight seems to be open http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/05/GTA-V-Heists.jpg and definetely a glock held by the guy in the picture little way above http://assets.vr-zone.net/19885/GTA_V_MFT.png -[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:00, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Spartan, gun models in video games can differ from their real life counterparts. It looks like a Beretta to me. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 18:47, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::Which gun are you talking about, the one pictured immediately above named "File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg"? If so you need to look at [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg this] image again, as it clearly shows that what looks like a mag from the side is actually a belt bag. Also you have the fact that the front sight and gas block are a match for a Minimi, and what can be seen of the receier in this grainy image is also pretty close. The only obvious differences are the furniture with the stock and handguard being different, and that the scaling is off. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:13, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
:::Commando, I was actually talking about this pistol: [http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 20:28, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Thats what I already said, since the game obviously has one in it, it's probably a beretta. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:59, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
:I know, I was agreeing with you because Spartan said that it couldn't be a Beretta with the squared trigger guard. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 09:57, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Sorry came of a bit rude , I meant to accentuate the fact that beretta is probably what everyone will think it is in the first place since it is confirmed to be in the game and beretta's have that distinct look of the slide,besides there's no reason to believe its some other gun since GTA's have tried to bring multiple weapons (AK's,AR's), instead of doing the COD thing and putting in several AR based ones, since they usually have a limited pool (like 3 in a category I believe) --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 13:09, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

*I was almost going to say it looked like a [[SIG SG 552|SIG552]], but the straight-edge magazine (rather than curved) says otherwise. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 02:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/GrandTheftAutoV/1280%20(1).jpg Looks like a 1911 or Hi-Power in Michael's hand. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:42, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

I can almost guaranty that the handgun above is another Beretta. If you look closely you can see the exposed barrel from the cutaway slide and you can barely make out the step in at the end of the barrel which a characteristic shared among all 92-series handguns.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 16:02, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

New pictures of guns in GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]

[[Image:ar-15 variant gta v 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A very close view of the AR-15 variant.]]
[[Image:GTAV_RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A RPG-7 based of the Airtronic RPG-7.]]
[[Image:gta v m134 without green camo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The handheld GE M134 without it's green finition.]]
[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
[[Image:gta v lmg (maybe M249).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the AR-15 variant, this time with a new LMG.]]
[[Image:franklin's beretta 92fs.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin's Beretta.]]
does anyone notice that Franklins Beretta has a Glock trigger guard? --[[User:Policerlhpd|Policerlhpd]] ([[User talk:Policerlhpd|talk]]) 03:57, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v night.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin at night with his Mossberg 590 Cruiser. I guess this is his favorite weapon.]]
[[Image:gta v ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the AR-15 variant. Last time I put it here.]]
[[Image:gta v mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the Mossberg.]]
:[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
:That's a camera. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 08:40, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yup camera 99% (since there is the same one in the SUV), seems that this game will sport gun customization at least color, the green Tavor,the green mini, and now the green shotty. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:26, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

I see a lot of influence from [[Heat]]. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 03:20, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah probably, but that is the trend in general with GTA's they put in references to movies and pop culture all the time. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:04, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

O yea, I know. This isn't my first GTA game by far. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

It's even right in the game, this time. According to an in-depth preview I watched on YouTube, Michael takes his ideas for heists directly from the game universe's versions of such movies. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:30, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

So is rockstar going to release the preview cause, all I have found right now is people talking for an hour about it .--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 04:50, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:They haven't released any public gameplay demos, no. At least none that I've seen yet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:20, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:As soon as they do, the media's going to be all over it. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 17:22, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a clearer picture of the pistol Franklin is holding in a previous screenshot.

[[File:Gtav pistol franklin.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Looks like some kind of cross between a Beretta and a Desert Eagle. It might be the "pistol .50" being offered as preorder DLC. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Seems like a different gun from the one in the above, I mean this probably is just a horrible DE, maybe work in progress, although GTA was never on top in weapons department. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:33, 14 June 2013 (EDT

http://www.gtav.net/screenshots/ - collection of official screenshots, might contain some weapons not already talked about. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

== Gameplay Video ==

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/09/first-grand-theft-auto-v-gameplay-video/

Go ahead and spot 'em. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:58, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

Dammit, Rockstar, take my money already! At 3:15, I can see an AW-type sniper rifle, a multi-shot grenade launcher (it looks similar to the hybrid grenade launcher in [[Resident Evil (2002 VG)|Resident Evil Remake]]), and a roll of dynamite in the weapon wheel. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:12, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png Got a screencap of Franklin with a tan M82A1M.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article on GTA V Gunplay ==
Found this article about the evolution of GTA V's gunplay on GTA Place. [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_v/b/xbox360/archive/2013/07/09/grand-theft-auto-v-gun-combat.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:39, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== New picture. ==

[[File:GTA5UNKNOWNPIST2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Bonshomme|Bonshomme]] 14:00, 10 July 2013 (CDT)

Is that seriously a rail on the side of the slide? [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 05:27, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

::Okay, I'm definitely not getting this game! Rockstar has always failed with the guns department (except in Max Payne 3), and that thing looks absolutely hideous. I'm done with the GTA series... Maybe when someone makes a skin mod for the guns, I'll get a copy... -.- --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 08:50, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Good. That leaves a copy for me. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::As if there will not be enough copies to go around, eh? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::While you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I always consider gun accuracy a +1 for me, incorrect weapon details isn't really much of a reason to not buy a game IMO (hell, I still got my copy of BO1). Again you are entitled to your opinion.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 11:06, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::: While I'm glad you won't be playing the game so as to avoid running into some joyless bother online, it seems to me more likely that the gun is a supposed to be some manner of TDI Kard, than whatever 1911/glock designed solely to offend your sensibilities you think it is. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::You have been playing too much Black Ops 2 if you think there is anything about that remotely resembling a Kard. It obviously has a conventional pistol layout with a slide, and the frame and general outline suggests a 1911. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:25, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Well, you know what they say: opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. I'm just sayin' you can't deny the fact that that... ''THING'' looks like a fugly frankengun, that should never see the light of day. I'm still hopin Rockstar has upped their gunplay from previous GTA titles, and made the gunplay (and the guns themselves) in this one a bit more realistic. You know, since they seem to be makin' this game another ground-breakin' masterpiece... Plus, I don't play with naive fanboys... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::If you would take the time to look at the trailer and use your words rather than skip to some nonsense about Black Ops 2, a game I haven't played not that it even matters, you might notice that Franklin uses the same pistol later in the trailer, his is fitted with an extended magazine and is seemingly firing on full auto, so, my suggestion that it's TDI Kard, I thought, might make a bit more sense than just losing your mind and writing off a whole title based on the appearance of a single handgun in the game. I can see how that might read as naivete though, I've had the wool pulled over my eyes and have been tricked into accepting a game in spite of the massive flaws it's exhibited in the design of one of it's firearms in a few seconds of footage and a screenshot or two, right?--[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 12:27, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::Yes. Btw, are you directing that comment to me or Commando552? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 16:45, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::At least some of it was directed at me so will address that part first. If your only evidance for it being a Kard is that it fires on full auto, then you should know that there are many other production pistols that are capable of full auto fire, not to mention the fact that it is possible to convert pistols to full automatic. Regardless of this, it is a game where they can give a gun whatever characteristics they choose so whether or not it is depicted as firing in full auto means nothing in real terms. Secondly, I have to say again it looks absolutely nothing like a Kard. If you can't see this then there is nothing that I can say to change your mind, but when I look at it I see absolutely nothing about the gun that suggests they based anything off of the Kard. If you put a gun to my head and made me take a guess at what it is meant to be I would probably say I highly customised (or very poorly modeled) full auto Glock, or maybe something like an Arsenal Strike One (which is available in FA/burst versions) but the shape is not really anything like one, it is just reminiscent of one if the "rail" on the front of the slide was actually the front slide serrations. In general can everyone chill out a bit about this game, we could do without the GTA talk pages degrading into a bitch fest like the COD ones historically have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:51, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I have to agree with Commando on the fact that it looks nothing like a Kard. Maybe a fuse of a badly-rendered Glock and a I9II... I also have to agree with Commando on the latter; regardless of my opinion on the possible depiction of guns/gunlay, there's no doubt that GTA V is going to be a great game (knowing Rockstar). Altough I still stand by my comment about not acquiring the game in the future, I realize that I shouldn't have been so outspoken about it, especially here, on the IMFDB. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 22:25, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
Well, look at MoH:WF, a game with accurate gun play but pretty mediocre everywhere else. Your opinion is yours, but what about Read Dead Redemption?[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:38, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Well don't get me wrong. I care about other elements besides gunplay such as gameplay and story. And as for RDR it was pretty accurate aside from a few minor mistakes.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 12:05, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::I agree with you, RDR was, and still is, pretty awesome. I still play it with my friends sometimes. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
Speaking of rails on the slide, it's been confirmed that we get weapon AND car customization to a pretty nice degree. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy the stories and the messages Rockstar provides in their games. But I've never been a fan of the GTA-gunplay. I'll be going for Saints Row IV this fall, instead of this. At least they don't even TRY to make the game realistic, so the gunplay is WAAAAY over the top. But that just makes it fun. PS. I enjoyed MOH:W... well, to a certain degree.--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Well, the gunplay that we've seen in the trailer (and confirmed in interviews) actually comes much more from Max Payne 3. You can run and gun without needing to aim and slow your movement, as well as switch between hard lock, soft lock, and full free aim in the options to suit your play style. You've still got the cover shooting and blindfiring, but you can actually be mobile in gunfights. There's also new options like being able to get in and out of a car while staying low to take cover behind it, as well as entering and exiting a car already shooting. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:33, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Has anyone considered that the pistol above could be a placeholder for something more real.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 15:40, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Its a possibility but given how we're two months away from release its unlikely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't think it is a placeholder, but I think there is a possibility that it is a bug where the wrong texture is on the model or it is using the low detail distance model or something, as there are several inconsistencies that make not sense. Firstly you have the fact that there is what appears to be a rail (which is scaled way too small) on the side of the slide. Then you have those weird horizontal black lines at the front of the slide and frame. Assuming that the black square at the back is meant to be the slide serrations, they span across both the slide and the top of the frame, which I have never seen on a real pistol. There are generally also lines all over the place on both the slide and frame which have no business being there on either a real gun, or a gun that is suggested by the silhouette of this. To top it off it also looks like it is ejecting rifle sized brass, but this is really the least of its problems. To me this gun looks ''so'' bad that it must be an error or something. It isn't just low detailed or simplified, or with random parts switched out for aesthetics, it actually appears deliberately FUBAR'd for no apparent reason. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:17, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I'm inclined to agree with Commando. All the guns on the page are designed relatively accurately except this one, which makes me think it's a texture bug. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:22, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

The Pistol is This ? Houge 1911 Avenger System - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:48, 6 August 2013 (JST)
[[File:1911 Avenger System.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hogue 1911 Avenger System]]

== AR 15 reloading ==

Did anyone notice in the new gameplay video that when Franklin pulls the charging handle of his AR15, a empty shell falls ?

Does that means that his gun jammed, or Rockstar Games made a shell fall each time the charging handle is pulled ? [[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 10 July 2013 (GMT)

:Probably the latter. And sign your posts by typing four tildes after them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:32, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

: It seems like they're doing the same thing as Metal Gear Solid 4, where Snake always racks the charging handle (ejecting an unfired round if it's a mid-mag reload) to chamber a fresh round after inserting the new magazine. This lets them stay realistically detailed while avoiding the +1 confusing that more casual players would have; keep it simple. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:23, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
::It really is kinda stupid and kinda lazy for animating a reload. Instead of programing someone doing nothing when you do a mid mag reload, they just left the reload animation program run, and I think the extra round coming out is really for the Hollywood effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:02, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
:: It's easier and less resource intensive to add a simple model of a cartridge flying out and use the same animation every time. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:01, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
Didn't he pull the charging handle a bit too far? [[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 16:20, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
::Looks pretty normal to me [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:06, 17 July 2013 (EDT)

Wouldn't also be more confortable to just hit the bolt release ? If doing a mid mag reload, nothing to do because a round is chambered, but it seems more natural to me to just hit the bolt release than racking the charging handle. [[User:Zebracherub|Zbracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 06:05, 28 July 2013 (GMT)

:It would, but this is GTA, where any random joe can hop in and know how to pilot a fighter plane or kill hundreds of people at a time without Homeland Security (or NOOSE, as they're called in-game) locking the city down like Guantanamo Bay NS, so it's not that big a deal IMO. Besides, I'd say this is just Rockstar showing off and proving they're still the pimps of the gaming industry. Aaargh! Why won't September 17th get here sooner?! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:08, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Theres lots of screen shots on the official site, some with weapons (an MP5 being fired by a SWAT member from an SUV). As for the flying part I thought they confirmed only Trevor is good at flying, it is possible there are missions the others learn to do that, SA had them, and we don't really know Niko didn't have any background in flying, Vercetti had little background at all and he was pretty old. As for the killing part most games have that I mean look at shooters even if we ignore the regeneration its quite improbable that one men can take out 20 in open shootout. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:32, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

:Nope, all three characters can operate any vehicle in the game, each one is just going to be better in one area than the others. This was confirmed by Rockstar in a Q&A posted on TGTAP forums. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

== CTAR-21 ==

I only noticed after editing the G11 to a CTAR-21, but does nayone know if this is meant to be the same gun just in different builds?
[[File:GTAVPossibleAUG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:GTAV TAR-21.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
From the fact that it is someone using the gun firing from a helicopter, at another helicopter, I would assume that this is the same piece of gameplay just with altered models. The confusing thing though is that the picture with the better correctly looking CTAR-21 is from November last year, as opposed to the crappy modded for no reason Tavor which is from a recent gameplay trailer. This would suggest that either the recent gameplay trailers used a '''very''' out of date build, or they deliberately messed with the weapons to make them less correct at some point during development, I would guess for legal reasons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:05, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
: It's fully possible that they altered the models to make them look different purely because they liked it better that way. They're making entertainment that looks good, not real-life gun porn. Aesthetic considerations are important. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:43, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
This is from the multiplayer trailer. It's definitely not in the TAR-21 family.
[[File:Gta5 online 32.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

A new screenshot was released showing a closer shot of the Tavor and it seems to have a P90-style fore-end.

[[File:GTA5-Tavor-Helicopter.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:06, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

== New Pictures ==

Two new photos have been released of a sniper rifle and that AP Pistol. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtav10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:gtav11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, I need to work at getting some caps from the new multiplayer trailer. But the apparent CTAR-21 (known in-game as the Advanced Rifle) actually doesn't really look like said gun in the final game except in the barest sense.

== New SMG ==

Thanks to iNero from GTA Forums for the picture. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:40, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtasmg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks like an oversized MP5A3.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 18:16, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
:: Highly doubt that. The only part of the shape that really matches an MP5A3 is the stock, and it has a short, straight magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Well as for the short mag, Rockstar said that weapon customization is going to be featured. So maybe the 10 round (civilian legal?) magazines is going to be an option. Also straight MP5 mags do exist. [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:47, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Straight MP5 magazines are older ones, and that doesn't match the pattern. The magwell is also too large for the magazine and it's sticking out at an awkward angle. And again, there's absolutely nothing that actually resembles an MP5 except for maybe the stock. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Looking at the SMGs currently documented on the site, I think it now looks similar to a [[FAMAE SAF]]
[[Image:SAF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAE SAF - 9x19mm]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:33, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Who labeled it a CZ Scorpion EVO 3? Looks a little like in the lower receiver/trigger guard area, but the rest is more MP5/SAF.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:23, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

:It looks like an MP5 with a sort of super-short G3 handguard. There's a closeup of it on one of the loading screens. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:00, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== M82? ==

Is it just me, or does the rifle in the first picture of the "Unknown Sniper Rifle" section (the one Franklin is holding on the roof) look a lot like an M82 variant? it has the muzzle brake and what we see of the body has the general shape. I don't have the pic now, but a recently released photo shows the sniper rifle on the weapon wheel photo and it's NOT the same gun. It actually looks closer to an Accuracy International rifle. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 03:39, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

It's a Barrett all right, check this screencap.
http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png
[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:38, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

== GTA Online Rifle ==
Found this over on Grand Theft Wiki.

[[File:GTAOnlineRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

They have it identified as a SCAR-L, but it's hard to make out. General shape is right for a SCAR, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:58, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== MK18 artwork ==
I separated it from the LR300 section since they clearly aren't the same weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:55, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

==Smith and Wesson M&P or Springfield XD? Can't identify.==
A person on another forum posted this pic of Michael holding a nickle plated handgun but the view is only from the top. I don't think it's a Glock because of the way the ejection port looks but I might be wrong. I can't see an exposed hammer. Any help?

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/fullsize/344.jpg

It could be a colored "AP Pistol". Paint jobs are among the weapon customization options. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:39, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: I don't think so. The side rails on the slide are so thick that they would be visible in this image. On GTA Forums there are suggestions that it's a S&W semi-auto. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 07:59, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
::The side rails on the AP pistol are just on the texture and not on the model aren't they? With a new skin the AP pistol could look totally different. Either way there isn't enough to go on from that shot to determine what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:17, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
:: It's difficult to tell. One other thing that makes me less convinced that it's the AP Pistol is that this gun has noticeable sights (The AP Pistol distinctly lacks them in all screenshots), and it seems to have a shorter barrel. It's almost definitely a separate gun, unless the customization options are more in-depth than we thought. Another suggestion might be a Taurus 24/7 or similar, as that gun is striker-fired, definitely comes in that finish, and has a similar sight profile from the top. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Side thought - is the AR that Franklin is holding missing the end of the buttstock or is that texture clipping? --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 15:10, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: Pretty sure that's just clipping. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

== Game Guide leak ==

Pics of the official game guide are turning up online.
http://imgur.com/a/ov4Rc#ZQjg5L3
http://imgur.com/a/vnbVM

No pics of the SMG or LMG sections yet. If you search for GTA V ammunation on youtube you'll find offscreen footage of a guy walking around the gun shop. You can see some sort of RPK clone on the wall.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:53, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
: No RPK, but the early game machine gun (the "MG") is pretty much just a PKM. Virtually all of the weapons in the game are already on the page. There's also an Assault Shotgun (which some say looks like a UTS 15 with a box magazine to resemble an AA-12), a sawed-off pump-action that may also be based on a Mossberg 500/590, the Combat Pistol (silver pistol held by Michael in the recently released trio pic, which reminds me of a Taurus PT 24/7 or Ruger P-series like the P97 with a stainless slide), and a Taser. The "unknown pistol" in the article is the PT92, which is apparently chambered in .45 ACP with a standard 12 round magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 00:05, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

== New SMG ==
This is an exclusive unlock for joining the Rockstar social club.

[[File:SC SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Not sure what it is myself. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:31, 13 September 2013 (EDT)

As far as I can see, it's 100% fictional. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 05:06, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yeah, seems so. And ugly as hell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:08, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:I see a birdcage flash hider, and the rest looks like the Halo 2/3 Battle Rifle. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 00:11, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

::Now that you mentioned that, I looked up what Halo battle rifle looks like, and I think this submachine gun might have also borrowed some design decisions from Halo's submachine gun. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:It also has a resemblance to the RCP-120 from Perfect Dark. [[User:RadiumMetal|RadiumMetal]] ([[User talk:RadiumMetal|talk]]) 17:21, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

== Barrett M-107 A1? ==

[[File:GTA5SNIPER1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

The muzzle brake and the right side of the gun, and also the color is very similar to the M-107 A1 than the AS50, is it real?

Check out the Gyazo link in my posts above. If you pause at the right moment, the rifle is a Barrett with a raised full length rail.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:36, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

== Combat Pistol ==

After unlocking the Combat Pistol in the game and using it quite a bit I'm thinking that it resembles some sort of HK pistol. Initially I thought it was like a USP Compact but I've thought it might be more like a HK45 or HK45c. I'm not sure though as at first I thought it was a Px4. Anyone else have any ideas what it could be? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 10:39, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
:The [http://gta.wikia.com/Weapons_in_GTA_V GTA Wiki] lists the combat pistol as the Taurus (well, they say Beretta but we know what they mean), or is that not the case in the final game? Also, that page has a picture of the assault shotgun, which appears to be an [[UTAS UTS-15]] which has been slightly messed with and had a box mag stuck on the bottom. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::The basic pistol is the Taurus not the combat pistol. They list the basic pistol as a P99 so it could be that the combat pistol is a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:53, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::I concur, the Combat Pistol definitely looks like a P99 to me. Glad they didn't rehash the 1911 or Glock again for the umpteenth time (not that I don't love 1911s and Glocks, I very much do ;D ). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Having got a decent look at it today I don't think it's a P99. It's got an exposed hammer and the general shape it more like a Beretta Px4 having taken a much closer look at it. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 18:45, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm only going by a tiny thumbnail (don't have the game) but it looks a bit like a [[CZ-G2000]] with a less sever angles around the trigger. This is pretty similar to the PX4, but I think it is a closer match as it has a square trigger guard and doesn't have an ambi safety (thumbnail I've seen is of the right side which lacks a safety). The profiling of the slide is also closer and the serrations look the same design (although there is one less band at both the front and back). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:37, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'd rather say a Px4 at this point. I've seen it up close (I DO have the game) and it looks a lot more like it was based on the Px4. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:06, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::I'm going to say having spend about half an hour moving the camera around trying to get really close shots of it that it is a Px4 more than anything else. The slide profile matches, the frame matches, the back of it matches. The only thing that doesn't match is the width of the slide serrations but that could just be a texture choice. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 12:53, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to venture a guess and say it's a combo of a Px4 and a P99, with the Px4 traits shining out the most. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:05, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know who it was who put the combat pistol as the H&K P2000 but it looks nothing like that. If it looks like any H&K pistol it's either the HK45c or the P30. I'm still leaning towards the Beretta Px4 though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 08:30, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

Picked up the guide yesterday evening while I was out and the "Combat Pistol" shown in it matches the general shape of the P2000, actually. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:20, 29 September 2013 (EDT)
:No one else sees a bit of the PT-909 in it?
[[File:Tau.jpg|thumb|none|800px]]
Remember no gun will be an exact match. They're all tweaked.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 18:10, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/4758e01a97e67d85191a02b267d98a60.png
The trigger guard and rail look P2000, but the rest resembles the Px4 to me.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:13, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

== Combat MG ==
It's not a Stoner, but rather an M60/M249 hybrid. Basically the stock of an M60, while everything in front of is is M249. Making appropriate changes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

== Guns on the TV programs ==

Killed a bit of time as Michael and watched the TV at his house. One of the channels was a FIB program called 'The Underbelly of Paradise'. One of the highlights was a few weapons on a table and one of the guns was a SIG P220-series pistol. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 21:57, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

There's also a brief shot of an M1911A1 cycling on an old-style crime show/movie and if you watch Jimmy playing ''Righteous Slaughter'' (a CoD/MoH/BF parody) in his room, the game character uses an XCR and a stainless steel Desert Eagle wielded tandem with a knife in the Harris stance. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

And the preview for the in-game movie ''The Simian'', which I saw while hanging out with Jimmy at a movie theater, has several shots of Hunter attack helicopters and at least one clear shot of the M230 chain gun on one of them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:25, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

== What's up with the Carbine Rifle changes? ==

Uhhh... Guys? The new Carbine really looks like the LR-300 and I thought it was agreed on. I don't know why we needed the change. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 20:03, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't the one who changed it, but I 100% agree with the change. First off, it isn't an LR-300 as the overriding unique feature about the LR-300 is that it doesn't have a buffer tube. This gun has a buffer tube. That is before we even get into the fact that the game gun has different furniture and a VLTOR MUR receiver rather than the unique LR-300 one. As with most of the weapons in the game this appears to be a hybrid gun at best, so it can't really be given a proper ID other than a custom AR-15. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:12, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:The assault rifle looks like a Hecker & Koch HK416 to me. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 8:43 AM (EST)
::It isn't, as far as I can tell there is not a single part on this that matches the HK416: the upper has the brass deflector built into the front of the forward assist like on a VLTOR MUR; the magazine fence on an HK416 is rounded whereas on this it is flat making it look more like one of the many different billet lowers that are available from various manufacturers; the stock is an ACE stocj which appears to be incorrectly depicted as extendable; the handguard is possibly a Daniel Defence MFR, but if not is definitely isn't a piston HK416 one. None of these parts are really perfect matches, but seeing the quality of the models on the other guns this isn't really to be expected. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:36, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Hmm...after looking through the M16 gallery, and the Colt AR-15 identification guide, and doing some googling, It seems like it COULD POSSIBLY be a hybrid of a Daniel Defense MFR and ZM LR-300, while trying to look like a HK416 (beefy handguard and short barrel), I can't shake it, to me it screams Franken-HK416, don't know why. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 1:02 PM (EST)
::::Look at the forwards assist and brass deflector area of this gun:[[File:GTAV_AR15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Note how the forward assist is a large flat faced wedge with the plunger coming out the bottom half of it, with a brass deflector attached at the top front corner. Now compare that to the below image:[[File:NovesDiplomat.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Noveske Rifleworks N4 Diplomat with VLTOR Modstock, EOTech sight and Surefire M900 weapon-light fore-grip - 5.56x45mm]]Notice they are a match. This is a unique thing that is only found on VLTOR MUR and VIS upper receivers (one pictured above is a VIS, MUR is the version without a monolithic handguard) and is due to the forward assist being able to be removed and replaced with a blanking plate fitted only with a brass deflector. Both the HK416 and the Z-M variants used different upper receiver designs to this, so it isn't either of them. I doubt that this is any factory gun in particular, it could be that the modellers just picked and chose various parts and stuck them together to make a gun they liked the look of, or it could be modelled off of a real custom gun that somebody has made. I don't get why people seem to think this is a HK416 (not just you, have seen people all over the place call it that) if the only thing they are going on is the fact it has a short barrel and a chunky handguard, there are a hell of a lot of guns that fit this description and are a closer match than an HK416, like this [[Media:POF P-416-11.JPG|Patriot Ordnance Factory P416]] for example. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:All the guns are hybrids, and the game's artists won't be familiar with the internals so I would go with the gun that is most similar in look, even if the similarities are all on the cosmetic parts and the dissimilarities affect the internals. Also the Combat SMG is an MP5 hybrid, not a Scorpion.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:15, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== pics of all guns except special edition weapons ==

I went and got the game guide. Here are pics of all the guns.

http://s13.postimg.org/5humxnsfr/gta_Weap.png

[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 15:23, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== ANALYSIS: Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 (Airsoft) ==

I've identified the firearm "Carbine Rifle", I analyzed it done here

[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-001.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]
[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-002.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]

Ace skeleton stock:

[[Image:Ace Stock Medium1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ace skeleton Stock]]

Reference: http://jagprecision.com/daniel-defense-m4-mfr-series-from-socom-gear/

PaulD21x (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2013 (VE)

Nailed it, nice.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:58, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:Not really, look a couple of sections above. The handguard is a Daniel Defence MUR (or at least a close approximation of one), but the upper receiver appears to be a VLTOR and the lower is not a DD one. Also you have the fact that the stock appears to be an Ace ARFX-E "Entry" stock which is the short one but this is fixed and not retractable, whereas this is extended out on the buffer tube like a regular AR-15 carbine style stock (I assume this is more due to ignorance rather than it being based on something else). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:43, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:I think it is a customized gun with a Daniel Defense MFR handguard, VLTOR MUR upper, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, the lower looks to be a NorthTech Billet receiver (with de fix trigger guard), the front BUIS is like a Troy Front sight and the rear a A2 type but simplified (or an unknow model), Hogue pistol grip (or any other model) and the ACE stock (but we can see they are nothing to move it because it is a fix stock and not a telescopic, an error). But it is not a basic model for me. --[[User:ArmaLite15|armalite15]] ([[User talk:Armalite15|talk]])

== "Combat Pistol" ==

Me again, noting that you guys missed a pistol.

Of course, this pistol is simply called the "Combat Pistol" and resembles the Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in a way. I have no way of getting screens and I haven't seen any so far. I haven't progressed far enough into the game to unlock it, but it can be viewed at the Ammunation stores if anyone had the game and wants to look. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:12, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
:No, we haven't missed it. Read a couple discussions above, we're still trying to come to a consensus on what it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:51, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

Ah, I see sorry. I missed that discussion. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:03, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

== Phone shots ==

So I hear you could take snaps using the in-game smart phone. Would it be possible to get some screenshots that way? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:37, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure, you have to sign up to Rockstar Social Network to do it, and I ''bet'' it watermarks them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:45, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
::Actually there is no watermark, but these pictures are only 640x360, and have a filter added that makes them look like low quality analog picture.--[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 15:34, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't think you can take phone pictures while armed, although you might get some from cops or security guards with guns, and take photos in the Ammu-Nation.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 21:30, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== In case you're wondering... ==

Cleetus' second hunting mission is bugged (hopefully forever) and when he tells you to hunt the last Elk it lets you wander the entire map with no possibility of triggering a police alert, meaning you can wander around in the military base to your hearts' content. You can keep anything you take by just causing an explosion (''anywhere'' on the map, but the jet's missiles don't count) which will spook the elk and let you quit out of the mission. I can't find anywhere to store the tank that Trevor can own, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:49, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm gonna have to exploit that. I've tried constantly to get a Titan, but I can never get it off the ground before a tank blows me up. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:54, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== Can we just settle on the "Carbine Rifle" by describing the components that it's constructed from? ==
It's obvious that it's not any named product (like the DDM4 it's currently IDed as but clearly is not), so can we just call it a custom AR-15 (like we do other franken ARs), ID it by its individual components, then be done with it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:30, 3 November 2013 (EST)

Moving these here for now, since I've changed the Carbine Rifle entry to reflect that it is ''not'' a DDM4.
[[File:DDM4sbr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DDM4 300 SBR with Magpul MOE stock, Magpul PMAG magazine, and KAC vertical foregrip - 300 BLK]]
[[Image:AF02-F-OT-ARFXE-ARULE-5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ace Skeleton Stock]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:53, 19 November 2013 (EST)

== Beach Bum pistol ==

A new handgun will be added in the next update/free DLC, called the "SNS"

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/xbox360/gta5/screens/gta5_269_605x.jpg

Probably a movie reference, perhaps it's a Walther PP of some form.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2013 (EST)

Beach Bum pack is out, the SNS pistol looks like a Heckler & Koch P7 M13 fitted with wood grips and a round trigger guard.[[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 20:01, 19 November 2013 (GMT)

== Gun pic on Social Club ==

Close view of the most used gun can be seen in the Social Club.

[[File:SocialClubAR15.jpg]]

This is a Northtech Billet lower, VLTOR Upper, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip but the upper is strange, it is raised up like the HK-416. And the handguard is very close to the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0..[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 19:43, 17 November 2013

== "Carbine Rifle" mounting an image ==

Since I edited the image from Photoshop, is a mixture: that's to HK-416 - Northtech Billet lower, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, Ace Skeleton Stock And the handguard is the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0
[[File:GTAVCARBINERIFLEMIXTURE.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 21:23, 21 November 2013

Is that a Pimpmygun pistol grip? [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:06, 21 November 2013 (EST)

No, I'm pretty sure he just Shopped in the grip from the Social Club image above. Also, if you wanted to create a composite, you could have just done an image search for the actual lower receiver used (I found plenty on Bing), because as has been previously stated, '''not a single component on this gun corresponds to the HK416'''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:39, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:There is possibly part of an HK416 potentially in there, as in the social club image you can see that the shape of the top rail at the rear steps down ahead of the charging handle like an HK416, which is not the case with a VLTOR MUR which the rest of the receiver is. This composite photoshop just uses a vanilla HK416 upper though which is not correct for the game gun. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:15, 22 November 2013 (EST)

It's all moot now, because I've solved the image problem. Found this during a Bing search for "gta v carbine rifle".

[[File:GTA5-Carbine-Rifle-Example.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The in-game "Carbine Rifle" - 5.56x45mm]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:On seeing that, it looks like it has an HK416 gas block as well. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 22 November 2013 (EST)

== Combat MG ID and non-player weapons ==
This is a response to Ultimate94 recently changing the MK46 Mod 0 ID back to Mod 1. The Mod 1 lacks a 12 o'clock Picatinny, using the M249 heat shield instead. This was done, AFAIK, to facilitate the re-inclusion of the carry handle. The Combat MG has a Picatinny rail in this position (albeit a low profile one), which would therefor make it a Mod 0. The weapon render linked to on the GTA Wiki is far too small to discern any details from, so doesn't prove anything.

Why were the non-player weapons added back to the main categories? Every other GTA game on IMFDb is formatted with non-player weapons in a separate "Other" category. What's the objection to this page being the same?

The artwork of Michael holding the MK18 doesn't appear in the game as a loading screen (unlike the Type 56 artwork), so it should be deleted from the page. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:42, 30 December 2013 (EST)

== Valentines Day M1928 Thompson ==
So there's going to be a free Chicago Typewriter coming up.
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/news/article/52186/Coming-this-Friday-The-GTA-Online-Valentine-s-Day-Massacr[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:23, 11 February 2014 (EST)

It's classed as an LMG in-game, with superior stats compared to the PKM (except for mag capacity), making it a good choice for anyone who hasn't unlocked the PKM, or someone who can live without the extra ammo capacity or aim-down-sight zoom (Tommy Gun doesn't get an optic) until they unlock the M249/M60 hybrid --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (EST)

== Removing images ==

I'm in favor of keeping the PKM image on the page, but only because this page is currently incomplete and it's the only screenshot available. I expect a better image will be available when more screencaps are available and the page is completed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:49, 25 February 2014 (EST)

== Cut weapons ==

So I just found this, worthy of mention in the discussion page at least:
http://gtaforums.com/topic/678397-the-gta-v-beta-hunt/page-6

In addition to several melee weapons, there are some icons for the XM25, a DMR variant of the AR-15 (seems to be referred to as M14), a HK21, and a SCAR-H.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:44, 26 February 2014 (EST)

A poster there states they weren't cut, but rather just aren't enabled for player use. So maybe Rockstar is holding them back as future DLC? I'd love to have that AR-15 sniper rifle (which resembles an M110A1, which, AFAIK, is an M110 with the fixed stock replaced with a collapsible one). I always felt the next upgrade from the bolt action should have been a semi-auto .308, with the Barrett placed in the slot with the MGL, RPG, and Minigun, and made to do more damage to vehicles. The stock on the SCAR's in-game render looks like it was taken from the LSAT machine gun, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:29, 26 February 2014 (EST)

== New upcoming DLC ==
The "Heavy Pistol" and "Special Carbine" will be released next week.
[[File:GTAV-HeavyPistol-SpecialCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
The carbine is clearly a G36K, but the pistol seems to be a 1911 of some kind. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:23, 27 February 2014 (EST)

From looking at the gun itself and at the Social Club page, I think the pistol looks a lot more like a 1911 than an FNX-45, or maybe some sort of Kimber-esque thing. The grip and grip panels look far more 1911 than FN. Cheers, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
*EDIT: here's a link that shows the Social Club image, and shows how it more resembles either a regular 1911 or some sort of Kimber-style tactical model: http://gta.wikia.com/Heavy_Pistol [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

Talk:Grand Theft Auto V

2014-03-04T20:34:01Z

Sandymon: /* New upcoming DLC */

== new page and type 56-2 ==

Hi!
I made this kinda quick. Didn't have a lot of time to check errors.
I'm relatively new to the editing in this site. So if any veteran
around with more knowledge could help improve the article would be indeed
great.
When it comes to the weapon, I believe it's a Norinco Type 56-2 since the stock
looks like the one in a Type 56-2. Otherwise correct if I'm wrong.
Also one of the guys seems to have a laser sight. Don't know which sort though
[[User:Santos|Santos]] 17:08, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

The rifles seem to have some sort of rail system on them... which I think is a shame--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 10:55, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

:Most likely is the handguard with picatinny rails. The guy knocking on the van leading those other two men, seems to have a laser sight attached to it. This is a handguard is from FAB-Defense. http://www.fab-defense.com/images/big-details/ak-47-1.jpg

One of the screenshots mentions "excellent" trigger discipline, to me it looks like his finger is actually on the trigger as there is a small curve in the shape of the finger, I wouldn't refer to that as excellent trigger discipline. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:42, 1 December 2011 (CST)

:To me it looks like the guy is holding his finger just slightly above the trigger area, not excellent but still better than most games have, to be honest the only game i can remember that had great trigger discipline was MGS4 where Snake kept his finger completely off the triggers of all weapons unless he was aiming them, but i think that since they're both video games, bad trigger discipline can be excused since i doubt developers want to spend who knows how many hours giving every character separate finger animations for trigger discipline, and also there is the fact that the character can have their fingers wrapped around the triggers, but the players have theirs completely off the fire button, so essentially, it's our own 'trigger' discipline that video game characters have (least that's how i see it) we should save the bad trigger discipline arguments for movies.[[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 16:26, 8 March 2012 (CST)
::Add ''[[ArmA 2]]'' to the list of games with excellent trigger discipline. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

== M4? ==

Help to identify; looks like a M4 rifle with longer (?) and suppressed barrel. [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] ([[User talk:Pawelm|talk]]) 13:55, 10 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I would say that it has a shorter barrel than an M4A1. I would say it's a suppressed [[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 14:21, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Suppressor resembles an AAC model which covers more of the barrel than the KAC suppressors we commonly see, so it's possible it could still be an M4. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:10, 10 November 2012 (EST)

:If it was an M4 length barrel, there would be no suppressor left to actually trap the gas to suppress the weapon. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 22:24, 10 November 2012 (EST)

looks like it has the older CAR-15 style stock [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:38, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:What people refer to as CAR-15s (XM177, XM177E1, XM177E2 etc) were fitted with a stock that was made of aluminium with a black polymer coating as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#2nd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. Later Colt carbines up to and including the M4 had a synthetic fiberlite stock as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#3rd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. The easiest way to tell them apart are the vertical reinforcing ribs that are present on the side of the fiberlite stock, which are present in the game gun. As this stock can be found on Mk. 18s, Model 933s and M4s (all of which this gun could be depending on how the suppressor fits) that doesn't really help. However as the gun has the slim handguard rather than the thicker double heat shield M4 handguard, my best guess would be a Mk. 18. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:03, 11 November 2012 (EST)
::What I think he meant was this is the 3rd Gen stock, the four-position plastic, not the newer six-position.--[[User:Sangheili1155|Sangheili1155]] ([[User talk:Sangheili1155|talk]]) 02:43, 12 November 2012 (EST)
I've seen scans that show one of the other characters holding that weapon without a suppressor on it. I'd definitely go with Mk.18 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 01:12, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure that this is why this image is in this section, but I cant believe these animated pictures as validation for the weapons in the game. GTA IV had MANY weapons in the loading screens that for what ever reason never made it to the final product.--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:05, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:Check the [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] page and you'll notice we include loading screen weapons on it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

::If a weapon is in the game and can be identified, then it should be identified. This includes artwork, loading screens, stock footage, in-game posters, whatever; if it's a clear and identifiable shot it's included. Weapons only seen in previews can also be included as long as the image is from a legitimate source and not leaked. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (EST)

Cover for the latest Game Informer magazine. You can see the suppressor is missing but the muzzle and the barrel is missing [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Weapon Selection hope==

So I don't know about most of you, but one of the worst aspects to these games is the frank lack of weapons for which you to use. I am not saying that the game doesn't need 100 different firearms, but there is no need to use the low level weapons once the higher tier weapons are unlocked (compare the Glock and Desert Eagle in GTA IV, how often do you use the Glock after unlocking). If nothing else I hope that this game has at least 3-4 variations in firearm. There are tons of vehicles to choose from, but you dont spend most of your time offing people with cars. Having to use the same repetitive weapon again and again bores me. What are your thoughts?--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:09, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Four or five options of each type sound good to me. I'm hoping we get a silenced pistol again this time. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)

:@Spartan198, exactly! The way I have seen it (for example), in the pistol category there should be a standard (Glock), Hi standard (1911), Burst (Beretta 93R), Special (Silenced [if no ability to customize]), and Magnum (Desert Eagle/Equivilant). Now this is a very basic look, but I think you can catch my drift. Same thing for shotguns where there should be a Double Barrell (For range and/or sawed off), Pump (Mossberg), Semi Auto (Benelli M4), and Automatic (USAS-12/AA-12). You can make any adjustments for which weapons are in which category does not matter. But the differences. --[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 12:45, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Seeing the silenced 56-2s in the reveal; its likely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 01:25, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping to see an [[Ithaca 37]] in this like in San Andreas, being that this is taking place in the same fictional Los Angeles. --[[User:QueenSasha24|QueenSasha24]] ([[User talk:QueenSasha24|talk]]) 04:01, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping for a SIG P226 myself this time around, but with the 92FS, that's looking unlikely. I like Valiant's system of classification, though. Using that system, I'd like to see assault rifles classified like this: an AKMS without a stock (low accuracy, short range), the Type 56 (medium accuracy, short range), the AR-15 variant (high accuracy, medium range), TAR-21 (high accuracy, long range). A grenade launcher attachment (if the weapons are customizable) would be nice, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:38, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

==Trailer 2==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzue74y7A84

The only new weapon I see looks to be an M4 type at 1:15. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:05, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Aaaargh! Why won't videos stream for me? It's been like this for the past 3 days! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:34, 15 November 2012 (EST)

== Trailer #2 Screenshots ==

[[File:Gta5-1.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 platform rifle]]
[[File:Gta5-2.JPG|200px|thumb|none|The handguard is longer than M4-style one]]
[[File:Gta5-3.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 style rifle, looks a bit like a HK416 to me, also the guy on the right has the same, or very similar gun]]

The rifle on the 3rd screencap looks like a HK416 variant (handguard with these thin vents). Also the rifle in 1st and 2nd screenshot seems to be different than the one in the 3rd. It has a black magazine, in games a gun rarely can have a mag swapped out. :D --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:06, 15 November 2012 (EST)

PS sorry for the black bars guys :\ --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:08, 15 November 2012 (EST)

:I'm guessing it is the same rifle in all 3 caps. Also, in the first screencap you can see the distinctive forward assist/brass deflector that is used on VLTOR VIS and MUR upper receivers ([[Media:NovesDiplomat.jpg|here]] is a picture of a Noveske Diplomat with a VIS upper showing the forward assist). Although these uppers are used on Noveske rifles, I don't think this is one as the handguard is wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:22, 15 November 2012 (EST)

It looks like more an AAC Honey Badger (look at the stock and the bolt) than an HK416 or AR-15-like rifle for the 3rd picture. --[[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]])
:Several reasons why I don't think it is a Honey Badger: firstly, the stock on the Honey Badger extend on rails on the side of the receiver like an MP5, as opposed to this where it extends along the buffer tube in typical Colt Carbine fashion; secondly it appears that it has a VLTOR VIS/MUR upper receiver based on the design of the combined forward assist and brass deflector which the Honey Badger doesn't; lastly, even if you disagree that it is a VLTOR upper it definitely has a forward assist, which the Honey Badger does not just having a normal brass deflector. In what way do you think the bolt makes it a Honey Badger they are pretty much the same on a typical AR-15 and a Honey Badger aren't they? (with the exception of the FA serrations, but from these screenshots you cannot tell whether they are there or not.) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:30, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Very usefull thing i found ==

Hey guys i think this thread has everything about Weapons for GTA V, GTA Fans are really great at spotting things http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=532181&st=0
--[[User:Faizanali|Faizanali]] ([[User talk:Faizanali|talk]]) 03:38, 20 November 2012 (EST)
: As a member of GTA Forums, I can reliably say that anything you see there should be taken with the biggest dose of salt in history. Like, something from Big Bone Lick State Park. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 04:06, 20 November 2012 (EST)

== 1911 and Glock ==
A new artwork was revealed, and it has a 1911 and a glock variant. We should put on the main page?--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] ([[User talk:Flavio|talk]]) 15:16, 4 January 2013 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_PISTOLS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== New trailers ==

There's new guns found in the trailer of GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]) 18:06, 30 April 2013 (EST)
[[Image:ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is an AR-15 variant, the same as seen in the trailer 2.]]
[[Image:ar-15 variant 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closer view of the variant.]]
[[Image:assault rifle gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new assault rifle, I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. It seems this is a Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:type 56 gangster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type 56-2 in the hands of a gangster.]]
[[Image:type 56 trevor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor shoots his type 56-2.]]
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v new stock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new stock on Franklin's Mossberg 590 Cruiser.]]

I got some better images of the weapons that I'll be adding to the article. Here's a better shot of the unknown rifle; it looks kinda like a SCAR-H, but there's bits that aren't right.

Looks more like a weird FAL--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:41, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, here's a shot of the pistol used by Michael in the rappelling scene. I can't identify it, but it almost looks to have an orange tip like an airsoft gun and no hammer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:58, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[http://gyazo.com/ca7fae1d3d648ca8a2623bb5adb2bbbf.png?1367374112]] Not sure if it's a Hi-Power or 1911, on Michael's TV. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:11, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm also thinking some kind of short-barreled FAL for the new AR, judging by the magazine and shape of the mag well. It and the Tavor are certainly new and different choices considering GTA's past being dominated by the combo of an AK and M16 variants, which is a good thing. That's four assault rifles altogether now so far (five if the CQBR on concept art shown above is included in the game), so let's hope the other weapon categories have as diverse a selection. And considering how big the weapon selection in [[Red Dead Redemption|RDR]] was, I'm feeling pretty confident about it. Maybe my wish for a P226 could still come to pass after all? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:10, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a higher resolution cropped image of the mystery rifle.

[[File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg]]

It has the heat shield, gas block, and front sight of an M249, the magazine looks more like a belt bag, and the stock looks derived from the fixed stock of the Masada/ACR. The optic is an out-of-scale Elcan SpecterDR and it has a Magpul AFG2 foregrip. The receiver area lacks details, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's some kind of M249-based machine gun. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:15, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Now that you said that I start to see it, but my first bet was FAL, in the end it could just be a butchered MG, the stock doesn't somehow look m249ish to me and the heat shield seems tiny.--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 11:13, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

:After re-watching the trailer, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg light machine gun]. The ammo pouch gets a bit more obvious in motion and it's certainly an ammo pouch, not a 20 round 7.62 magazine. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 04:05, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

::I bet it turns out to be something ''really'' stoopid like an LSAT with a modified handguard. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:34, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

:::That horrified me for a moment, but I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that LSAT is tucked a bit further away then the pool of common firearms that appear in GTA. It will be some monstrosity of the natural order regardless. -[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

Seems to be a new pistol, but I can't ID it.[http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:52, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Could be a beretta. Weird pouch like a 50 rounder or something, but yeah now its definitely an butchered mg. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:35, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Underside of the trigger guard is straight, all Beretta models are rounded downward. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

DRD Tactical Paratus? [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 10:33, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

You mean the one to the left (its more likely an M4 would make sense for a game not centered around gun pron to have a generic well known firearm rather than some obscure one) if you mean the MG probably even more unlikely to me for now its seems like a franke-gun or at least a horribly scaled one. On a side note look at the one in the case the sight seems to be open http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/05/GTA-V-Heists.jpg and definetely a glock held by the guy in the picture little way above http://assets.vr-zone.net/19885/GTA_V_MFT.png -[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:00, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Spartan, gun models in video games can differ from their real life counterparts. It looks like a Beretta to me. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 18:47, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::Which gun are you talking about, the one pictured immediately above named "File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg"? If so you need to look at [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg this] image again, as it clearly shows that what looks like a mag from the side is actually a belt bag. Also you have the fact that the front sight and gas block are a match for a Minimi, and what can be seen of the receier in this grainy image is also pretty close. The only obvious differences are the furniture with the stock and handguard being different, and that the scaling is off. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:13, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
:::Commando, I was actually talking about this pistol: [http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 20:28, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Thats what I already said, since the game obviously has one in it, it's probably a beretta. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:59, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
:I know, I was agreeing with you because Spartan said that it couldn't be a Beretta with the squared trigger guard. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 09:57, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Sorry came of a bit rude , I meant to accentuate the fact that beretta is probably what everyone will think it is in the first place since it is confirmed to be in the game and beretta's have that distinct look of the slide,besides there's no reason to believe its some other gun since GTA's have tried to bring multiple weapons (AK's,AR's), instead of doing the COD thing and putting in several AR based ones, since they usually have a limited pool (like 3 in a category I believe) --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 13:09, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

*I was almost going to say it looked like a [[SIG SG 552|SIG552]], but the straight-edge magazine (rather than curved) says otherwise. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 02:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/GrandTheftAutoV/1280%20(1).jpg Looks like a 1911 or Hi-Power in Michael's hand. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:42, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

I can almost guaranty that the handgun above is another Beretta. If you look closely you can see the exposed barrel from the cutaway slide and you can barely make out the step in at the end of the barrel which a characteristic shared among all 92-series handguns.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 16:02, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

New pictures of guns in GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]

[[Image:ar-15 variant gta v 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A very close view of the AR-15 variant.]]
[[Image:GTAV_RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A RPG-7 based of the Airtronic RPG-7.]]
[[Image:gta v m134 without green camo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The handheld GE M134 without it's green finition.]]
[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
[[Image:gta v lmg (maybe M249).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the AR-15 variant, this time with a new LMG.]]
[[Image:franklin's beretta 92fs.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin's Beretta.]]
does anyone notice that Franklins Beretta has a Glock trigger guard? --[[User:Policerlhpd|Policerlhpd]] ([[User talk:Policerlhpd|talk]]) 03:57, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v night.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin at night with his Mossberg 590 Cruiser. I guess this is his favorite weapon.]]
[[Image:gta v ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the AR-15 variant. Last time I put it here.]]
[[Image:gta v mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the Mossberg.]]
:[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
:That's a camera. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 08:40, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yup camera 99% (since there is the same one in the SUV), seems that this game will sport gun customization at least color, the green Tavor,the green mini, and now the green shotty. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:26, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

I see a lot of influence from [[Heat]]. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 03:20, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah probably, but that is the trend in general with GTA's they put in references to movies and pop culture all the time. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:04, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

O yea, I know. This isn't my first GTA game by far. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

It's even right in the game, this time. According to an in-depth preview I watched on YouTube, Michael takes his ideas for heists directly from the game universe's versions of such movies. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:30, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

So is rockstar going to release the preview cause, all I have found right now is people talking for an hour about it .--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 04:50, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:They haven't released any public gameplay demos, no. At least none that I've seen yet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:20, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:As soon as they do, the media's going to be all over it. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 17:22, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a clearer picture of the pistol Franklin is holding in a previous screenshot.

[[File:Gtav pistol franklin.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Looks like some kind of cross between a Beretta and a Desert Eagle. It might be the "pistol .50" being offered as preorder DLC. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Seems like a different gun from the one in the above, I mean this probably is just a horrible DE, maybe work in progress, although GTA was never on top in weapons department. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:33, 14 June 2013 (EDT

http://www.gtav.net/screenshots/ - collection of official screenshots, might contain some weapons not already talked about. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

== Gameplay Video ==

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/09/first-grand-theft-auto-v-gameplay-video/

Go ahead and spot 'em. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:58, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

Dammit, Rockstar, take my money already! At 3:15, I can see an AW-type sniper rifle, a multi-shot grenade launcher (it looks similar to the hybrid grenade launcher in [[Resident Evil (2002 VG)|Resident Evil Remake]]), and a roll of dynamite in the weapon wheel. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:12, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png Got a screencap of Franklin with a tan M82A1M.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article on GTA V Gunplay ==
Found this article about the evolution of GTA V's gunplay on GTA Place. [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_v/b/xbox360/archive/2013/07/09/grand-theft-auto-v-gun-combat.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:39, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== New picture. ==

[[File:GTA5UNKNOWNPIST2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Bonshomme|Bonshomme]] 14:00, 10 July 2013 (CDT)

Is that seriously a rail on the side of the slide? [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 05:27, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

::Okay, I'm definitely not getting this game! Rockstar has always failed with the guns department (except in Max Payne 3), and that thing looks absolutely hideous. I'm done with the GTA series... Maybe when someone makes a skin mod for the guns, I'll get a copy... -.- --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 08:50, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Good. That leaves a copy for me. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::As if there will not be enough copies to go around, eh? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::While you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I always consider gun accuracy a +1 for me, incorrect weapon details isn't really much of a reason to not buy a game IMO (hell, I still got my copy of BO1). Again you are entitled to your opinion.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 11:06, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::: While I'm glad you won't be playing the game so as to avoid running into some joyless bother online, it seems to me more likely that the gun is a supposed to be some manner of TDI Kard, than whatever 1911/glock designed solely to offend your sensibilities you think it is. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::You have been playing too much Black Ops 2 if you think there is anything about that remotely resembling a Kard. It obviously has a conventional pistol layout with a slide, and the frame and general outline suggests a 1911. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:25, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Well, you know what they say: opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. I'm just sayin' you can't deny the fact that that... ''THING'' looks like a fugly frankengun, that should never see the light of day. I'm still hopin Rockstar has upped their gunplay from previous GTA titles, and made the gunplay (and the guns themselves) in this one a bit more realistic. You know, since they seem to be makin' this game another ground-breakin' masterpiece... Plus, I don't play with naive fanboys... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::If you would take the time to look at the trailer and use your words rather than skip to some nonsense about Black Ops 2, a game I haven't played not that it even matters, you might notice that Franklin uses the same pistol later in the trailer, his is fitted with an extended magazine and is seemingly firing on full auto, so, my suggestion that it's TDI Kard, I thought, might make a bit more sense than just losing your mind and writing off a whole title based on the appearance of a single handgun in the game. I can see how that might read as naivete though, I've had the wool pulled over my eyes and have been tricked into accepting a game in spite of the massive flaws it's exhibited in the design of one of it's firearms in a few seconds of footage and a screenshot or two, right?--[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 12:27, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::Yes. Btw, are you directing that comment to me or Commando552? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 16:45, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::At least some of it was directed at me so will address that part first. If your only evidance for it being a Kard is that it fires on full auto, then you should know that there are many other production pistols that are capable of full auto fire, not to mention the fact that it is possible to convert pistols to full automatic. Regardless of this, it is a game where they can give a gun whatever characteristics they choose so whether or not it is depicted as firing in full auto means nothing in real terms. Secondly, I have to say again it looks absolutely nothing like a Kard. If you can't see this then there is nothing that I can say to change your mind, but when I look at it I see absolutely nothing about the gun that suggests they based anything off of the Kard. If you put a gun to my head and made me take a guess at what it is meant to be I would probably say I highly customised (or very poorly modeled) full auto Glock, or maybe something like an Arsenal Strike One (which is available in FA/burst versions) but the shape is not really anything like one, it is just reminiscent of one if the "rail" on the front of the slide was actually the front slide serrations. In general can everyone chill out a bit about this game, we could do without the GTA talk pages degrading into a bitch fest like the COD ones historically have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:51, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I have to agree with Commando on the fact that it looks nothing like a Kard. Maybe a fuse of a badly-rendered Glock and a I9II... I also have to agree with Commando on the latter; regardless of my opinion on the possible depiction of guns/gunlay, there's no doubt that GTA V is going to be a great game (knowing Rockstar). Altough I still stand by my comment about not acquiring the game in the future, I realize that I shouldn't have been so outspoken about it, especially here, on the IMFDB. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 22:25, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
Well, look at MoH:WF, a game with accurate gun play but pretty mediocre everywhere else. Your opinion is yours, but what about Read Dead Redemption?[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:38, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Well don't get me wrong. I care about other elements besides gunplay such as gameplay and story. And as for RDR it was pretty accurate aside from a few minor mistakes.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 12:05, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::I agree with you, RDR was, and still is, pretty awesome. I still play it with my friends sometimes. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
Speaking of rails on the slide, it's been confirmed that we get weapon AND car customization to a pretty nice degree. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy the stories and the messages Rockstar provides in their games. But I've never been a fan of the GTA-gunplay. I'll be going for Saints Row IV this fall, instead of this. At least they don't even TRY to make the game realistic, so the gunplay is WAAAAY over the top. But that just makes it fun. PS. I enjoyed MOH:W... well, to a certain degree.--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Well, the gunplay that we've seen in the trailer (and confirmed in interviews) actually comes much more from Max Payne 3. You can run and gun without needing to aim and slow your movement, as well as switch between hard lock, soft lock, and full free aim in the options to suit your play style. You've still got the cover shooting and blindfiring, but you can actually be mobile in gunfights. There's also new options like being able to get in and out of a car while staying low to take cover behind it, as well as entering and exiting a car already shooting. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:33, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Has anyone considered that the pistol above could be a placeholder for something more real.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 15:40, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Its a possibility but given how we're two months away from release its unlikely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't think it is a placeholder, but I think there is a possibility that it is a bug where the wrong texture is on the model or it is using the low detail distance model or something, as there are several inconsistencies that make not sense. Firstly you have the fact that there is what appears to be a rail (which is scaled way too small) on the side of the slide. Then you have those weird horizontal black lines at the front of the slide and frame. Assuming that the black square at the back is meant to be the slide serrations, they span across both the slide and the top of the frame, which I have never seen on a real pistol. There are generally also lines all over the place on both the slide and frame which have no business being there on either a real gun, or a gun that is suggested by the silhouette of this. To top it off it also looks like it is ejecting rifle sized brass, but this is really the least of its problems. To me this gun looks ''so'' bad that it must be an error or something. It isn't just low detailed or simplified, or with random parts switched out for aesthetics, it actually appears deliberately FUBAR'd for no apparent reason. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:17, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I'm inclined to agree with Commando. All the guns on the page are designed relatively accurately except this one, which makes me think it's a texture bug. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:22, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

The Pistol is This ? Houge 1911 Avenger System - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:48, 6 August 2013 (JST)
[[File:1911 Avenger System.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hogue 1911 Avenger System]]

== AR 15 reloading ==

Did anyone notice in the new gameplay video that when Franklin pulls the charging handle of his AR15, a empty shell falls ?

Does that means that his gun jammed, or Rockstar Games made a shell fall each time the charging handle is pulled ? [[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 10 July 2013 (GMT)

:Probably the latter. And sign your posts by typing four tildes after them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:32, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

: It seems like they're doing the same thing as Metal Gear Solid 4, where Snake always racks the charging handle (ejecting an unfired round if it's a mid-mag reload) to chamber a fresh round after inserting the new magazine. This lets them stay realistically detailed while avoiding the +1 confusing that more casual players would have; keep it simple. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:23, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
::It really is kinda stupid and kinda lazy for animating a reload. Instead of programing someone doing nothing when you do a mid mag reload, they just left the reload animation program run, and I think the extra round coming out is really for the Hollywood effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:02, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
:: It's easier and less resource intensive to add a simple model of a cartridge flying out and use the same animation every time. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:01, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
Didn't he pull the charging handle a bit too far? [[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 16:20, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
::Looks pretty normal to me [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:06, 17 July 2013 (EDT)

Wouldn't also be more confortable to just hit the bolt release ? If doing a mid mag reload, nothing to do because a round is chambered, but it seems more natural to me to just hit the bolt release than racking the charging handle. [[User:Zebracherub|Zbracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 06:05, 28 July 2013 (GMT)

:It would, but this is GTA, where any random joe can hop in and know how to pilot a fighter plane or kill hundreds of people at a time without Homeland Security (or NOOSE, as they're called in-game) locking the city down like Guantanamo Bay NS, so it's not that big a deal IMO. Besides, I'd say this is just Rockstar showing off and proving they're still the pimps of the gaming industry. Aaargh! Why won't September 17th get here sooner?! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:08, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Theres lots of screen shots on the official site, some with weapons (an MP5 being fired by a SWAT member from an SUV). As for the flying part I thought they confirmed only Trevor is good at flying, it is possible there are missions the others learn to do that, SA had them, and we don't really know Niko didn't have any background in flying, Vercetti had little background at all and he was pretty old. As for the killing part most games have that I mean look at shooters even if we ignore the regeneration its quite improbable that one men can take out 20 in open shootout. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:32, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

:Nope, all three characters can operate any vehicle in the game, each one is just going to be better in one area than the others. This was confirmed by Rockstar in a Q&A posted on TGTAP forums. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

== CTAR-21 ==

I only noticed after editing the G11 to a CTAR-21, but does nayone know if this is meant to be the same gun just in different builds?
[[File:GTAVPossibleAUG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:GTAV TAR-21.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
From the fact that it is someone using the gun firing from a helicopter, at another helicopter, I would assume that this is the same piece of gameplay just with altered models. The confusing thing though is that the picture with the better correctly looking CTAR-21 is from November last year, as opposed to the crappy modded for no reason Tavor which is from a recent gameplay trailer. This would suggest that either the recent gameplay trailers used a '''very''' out of date build, or they deliberately messed with the weapons to make them less correct at some point during development, I would guess for legal reasons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:05, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
: It's fully possible that they altered the models to make them look different purely because they liked it better that way. They're making entertainment that looks good, not real-life gun porn. Aesthetic considerations are important. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:43, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
This is from the multiplayer trailer. It's definitely not in the TAR-21 family.
[[File:Gta5 online 32.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

A new screenshot was released showing a closer shot of the Tavor and it seems to have a P90-style fore-end.

[[File:GTA5-Tavor-Helicopter.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:06, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

== New Pictures ==

Two new photos have been released of a sniper rifle and that AP Pistol. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtav10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:gtav11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, I need to work at getting some caps from the new multiplayer trailer. But the apparent CTAR-21 (known in-game as the Advanced Rifle) actually doesn't really look like said gun in the final game except in the barest sense.

== New SMG ==

Thanks to iNero from GTA Forums for the picture. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:40, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtasmg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks like an oversized MP5A3.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 18:16, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
:: Highly doubt that. The only part of the shape that really matches an MP5A3 is the stock, and it has a short, straight magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Well as for the short mag, Rockstar said that weapon customization is going to be featured. So maybe the 10 round (civilian legal?) magazines is going to be an option. Also straight MP5 mags do exist. [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:47, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Straight MP5 magazines are older ones, and that doesn't match the pattern. The magwell is also too large for the magazine and it's sticking out at an awkward angle. And again, there's absolutely nothing that actually resembles an MP5 except for maybe the stock. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Looking at the SMGs currently documented on the site, I think it now looks similar to a [[FAMAE SAF]]
[[Image:SAF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAE SAF - 9x19mm]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:33, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Who labeled it a CZ Scorpion EVO 3? Looks a little like in the lower receiver/trigger guard area, but the rest is more MP5/SAF.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:23, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

:It looks like an MP5 with a sort of super-short G3 handguard. There's a closeup of it on one of the loading screens. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:00, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== M82? ==

Is it just me, or does the rifle in the first picture of the "Unknown Sniper Rifle" section (the one Franklin is holding on the roof) look a lot like an M82 variant? it has the muzzle brake and what we see of the body has the general shape. I don't have the pic now, but a recently released photo shows the sniper rifle on the weapon wheel photo and it's NOT the same gun. It actually looks closer to an Accuracy International rifle. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 03:39, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

It's a Barrett all right, check this screencap.
http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png
[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:38, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

== GTA Online Rifle ==
Found this over on Grand Theft Wiki.

[[File:GTAOnlineRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

They have it identified as a SCAR-L, but it's hard to make out. General shape is right for a SCAR, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:58, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== MK18 artwork ==
I separated it from the LR300 section since they clearly aren't the same weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:55, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

==Smith and Wesson M&P or Springfield XD? Can't identify.==
A person on another forum posted this pic of Michael holding a nickle plated handgun but the view is only from the top. I don't think it's a Glock because of the way the ejection port looks but I might be wrong. I can't see an exposed hammer. Any help?

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/fullsize/344.jpg

It could be a colored "AP Pistol". Paint jobs are among the weapon customization options. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:39, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: I don't think so. The side rails on the slide are so thick that they would be visible in this image. On GTA Forums there are suggestions that it's a S&W semi-auto. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 07:59, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
::The side rails on the AP pistol are just on the texture and not on the model aren't they? With a new skin the AP pistol could look totally different. Either way there isn't enough to go on from that shot to determine what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:17, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
:: It's difficult to tell. One other thing that makes me less convinced that it's the AP Pistol is that this gun has noticeable sights (The AP Pistol distinctly lacks them in all screenshots), and it seems to have a shorter barrel. It's almost definitely a separate gun, unless the customization options are more in-depth than we thought. Another suggestion might be a Taurus 24/7 or similar, as that gun is striker-fired, definitely comes in that finish, and has a similar sight profile from the top. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Side thought - is the AR that Franklin is holding missing the end of the buttstock or is that texture clipping? --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 15:10, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: Pretty sure that's just clipping. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

== Game Guide leak ==

Pics of the official game guide are turning up online.
http://imgur.com/a/ov4Rc#ZQjg5L3
http://imgur.com/a/vnbVM

No pics of the SMG or LMG sections yet. If you search for GTA V ammunation on youtube you'll find offscreen footage of a guy walking around the gun shop. You can see some sort of RPK clone on the wall.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:53, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
: No RPK, but the early game machine gun (the "MG") is pretty much just a PKM. Virtually all of the weapons in the game are already on the page. There's also an Assault Shotgun (which some say looks like a UTS 15 with a box magazine to resemble an AA-12), a sawed-off pump-action that may also be based on a Mossberg 500/590, the Combat Pistol (silver pistol held by Michael in the recently released trio pic, which reminds me of a Taurus PT 24/7 or Ruger P-series like the P97 with a stainless slide), and a Taser. The "unknown pistol" in the article is the PT92, which is apparently chambered in .45 ACP with a standard 12 round magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 00:05, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

== New SMG ==
This is an exclusive unlock for joining the Rockstar social club.

[[File:SC SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Not sure what it is myself. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:31, 13 September 2013 (EDT)

As far as I can see, it's 100% fictional. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 05:06, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yeah, seems so. And ugly as hell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:08, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:I see a birdcage flash hider, and the rest looks like the Halo 2/3 Battle Rifle. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 00:11, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

::Now that you mentioned that, I looked up what Halo battle rifle looks like, and I think this submachine gun might have also borrowed some design decisions from Halo's submachine gun. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:It also has a resemblance to the RCP-120 from Perfect Dark. [[User:RadiumMetal|RadiumMetal]] ([[User talk:RadiumMetal|talk]]) 17:21, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

== Barrett M-107 A1? ==

[[File:GTA5SNIPER1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

The muzzle brake and the right side of the gun, and also the color is very similar to the M-107 A1 than the AS50, is it real?

Check out the Gyazo link in my posts above. If you pause at the right moment, the rifle is a Barrett with a raised full length rail.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:36, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

== Combat Pistol ==

After unlocking the Combat Pistol in the game and using it quite a bit I'm thinking that it resembles some sort of HK pistol. Initially I thought it was like a USP Compact but I've thought it might be more like a HK45 or HK45c. I'm not sure though as at first I thought it was a Px4. Anyone else have any ideas what it could be? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 10:39, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
:The [http://gta.wikia.com/Weapons_in_GTA_V GTA Wiki] lists the combat pistol as the Taurus (well, they say Beretta but we know what they mean), or is that not the case in the final game? Also, that page has a picture of the assault shotgun, which appears to be an [[UTAS UTS-15]] which has been slightly messed with and had a box mag stuck on the bottom. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::The basic pistol is the Taurus not the combat pistol. They list the basic pistol as a P99 so it could be that the combat pistol is a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:53, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::I concur, the Combat Pistol definitely looks like a P99 to me. Glad they didn't rehash the 1911 or Glock again for the umpteenth time (not that I don't love 1911s and Glocks, I very much do ;D ). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Having got a decent look at it today I don't think it's a P99. It's got an exposed hammer and the general shape it more like a Beretta Px4 having taken a much closer look at it. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 18:45, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm only going by a tiny thumbnail (don't have the game) but it looks a bit like a [[CZ-G2000]] with a less sever angles around the trigger. This is pretty similar to the PX4, but I think it is a closer match as it has a square trigger guard and doesn't have an ambi safety (thumbnail I've seen is of the right side which lacks a safety). The profiling of the slide is also closer and the serrations look the same design (although there is one less band at both the front and back). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:37, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'd rather say a Px4 at this point. I've seen it up close (I DO have the game) and it looks a lot more like it was based on the Px4. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:06, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::I'm going to say having spend about half an hour moving the camera around trying to get really close shots of it that it is a Px4 more than anything else. The slide profile matches, the frame matches, the back of it matches. The only thing that doesn't match is the width of the slide serrations but that could just be a texture choice. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 12:53, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to venture a guess and say it's a combo of a Px4 and a P99, with the Px4 traits shining out the most. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:05, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know who it was who put the combat pistol as the H&K P2000 but it looks nothing like that. If it looks like any H&K pistol it's either the HK45c or the P30. I'm still leaning towards the Beretta Px4 though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 08:30, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

Picked up the guide yesterday evening while I was out and the "Combat Pistol" shown in it matches the general shape of the P2000, actually. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:20, 29 September 2013 (EDT)
:No one else sees a bit of the PT-909 in it?
[[File:Tau.jpg|thumb|none|800px]]
Remember no gun will be an exact match. They're all tweaked.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 18:10, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/4758e01a97e67d85191a02b267d98a60.png
The trigger guard and rail look P2000, but the rest resembles the Px4 to me.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:13, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

== Combat MG ==
It's not a Stoner, but rather an M60/M249 hybrid. Basically the stock of an M60, while everything in front of is is M249. Making appropriate changes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

== Guns on the TV programs ==

Killed a bit of time as Michael and watched the TV at his house. One of the channels was a FIB program called 'The Underbelly of Paradise'. One of the highlights was a few weapons on a table and one of the guns was a SIG P220-series pistol. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 21:57, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

There's also a brief shot of an M1911A1 cycling on an old-style crime show/movie and if you watch Jimmy playing ''Righteous Slaughter'' (a CoD/MoH/BF parody) in his room, the game character uses an XCR and a stainless steel Desert Eagle wielded tandem with a knife in the Harris stance. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

And the preview for the in-game movie ''The Simian'', which I saw while hanging out with Jimmy at a movie theater, has several shots of Hunter attack helicopters and at least one clear shot of the M230 chain gun on one of them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:25, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

== What's up with the Carbine Rifle changes? ==

Uhhh... Guys? The new Carbine really looks like the LR-300 and I thought it was agreed on. I don't know why we needed the change. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 20:03, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't the one who changed it, but I 100% agree with the change. First off, it isn't an LR-300 as the overriding unique feature about the LR-300 is that it doesn't have a buffer tube. This gun has a buffer tube. That is before we even get into the fact that the game gun has different furniture and a VLTOR MUR receiver rather than the unique LR-300 one. As with most of the weapons in the game this appears to be a hybrid gun at best, so it can't really be given a proper ID other than a custom AR-15. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:12, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:The assault rifle looks like a Hecker & Koch HK416 to me. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 8:43 AM (EST)
::It isn't, as far as I can tell there is not a single part on this that matches the HK416: the upper has the brass deflector built into the front of the forward assist like on a VLTOR MUR; the magazine fence on an HK416 is rounded whereas on this it is flat making it look more like one of the many different billet lowers that are available from various manufacturers; the stock is an ACE stocj which appears to be incorrectly depicted as extendable; the handguard is possibly a Daniel Defence MFR, but if not is definitely isn't a piston HK416 one. None of these parts are really perfect matches, but seeing the quality of the models on the other guns this isn't really to be expected. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:36, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Hmm...after looking through the M16 gallery, and the Colt AR-15 identification guide, and doing some googling, It seems like it COULD POSSIBLY be a hybrid of a Daniel Defense MFR and ZM LR-300, while trying to look like a HK416 (beefy handguard and short barrel), I can't shake it, to me it screams Franken-HK416, don't know why. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 1:02 PM (EST)
::::Look at the forwards assist and brass deflector area of this gun:[[File:GTAV_AR15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Note how the forward assist is a large flat faced wedge with the plunger coming out the bottom half of it, with a brass deflector attached at the top front corner. Now compare that to the below image:[[File:NovesDiplomat.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Noveske Rifleworks N4 Diplomat with VLTOR Modstock, EOTech sight and Surefire M900 weapon-light fore-grip - 5.56x45mm]]Notice they are a match. This is a unique thing that is only found on VLTOR MUR and VIS upper receivers (one pictured above is a VIS, MUR is the version without a monolithic handguard) and is due to the forward assist being able to be removed and replaced with a blanking plate fitted only with a brass deflector. Both the HK416 and the Z-M variants used different upper receiver designs to this, so it isn't either of them. I doubt that this is any factory gun in particular, it could be that the modellers just picked and chose various parts and stuck them together to make a gun they liked the look of, or it could be modelled off of a real custom gun that somebody has made. I don't get why people seem to think this is a HK416 (not just you, have seen people all over the place call it that) if the only thing they are going on is the fact it has a short barrel and a chunky handguard, there are a hell of a lot of guns that fit this description and are a closer match than an HK416, like this [[Media:POF P-416-11.JPG|Patriot Ordnance Factory P416]] for example. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:All the guns are hybrids, and the game's artists won't be familiar with the internals so I would go with the gun that is most similar in look, even if the similarities are all on the cosmetic parts and the dissimilarities affect the internals. Also the Combat SMG is an MP5 hybrid, not a Scorpion.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:15, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== pics of all guns except special edition weapons ==

I went and got the game guide. Here are pics of all the guns.

http://s13.postimg.org/5humxnsfr/gta_Weap.png

[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 15:23, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== ANALYSIS: Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 (Airsoft) ==

I've identified the firearm "Carbine Rifle", I analyzed it done here

[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-001.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]
[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-002.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]

Ace skeleton stock:

[[Image:Ace Stock Medium1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ace skeleton Stock]]

Reference: http://jagprecision.com/daniel-defense-m4-mfr-series-from-socom-gear/

PaulD21x (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2013 (VE)

Nailed it, nice.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:58, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:Not really, look a couple of sections above. The handguard is a Daniel Defence MUR (or at least a close approximation of one), but the upper receiver appears to be a VLTOR and the lower is not a DD one. Also you have the fact that the stock appears to be an Ace ARFX-E "Entry" stock which is the short one but this is fixed and not retractable, whereas this is extended out on the buffer tube like a regular AR-15 carbine style stock (I assume this is more due to ignorance rather than it being based on something else). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:43, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:I think it is a customized gun with a Daniel Defense MFR handguard, VLTOR MUR upper, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, the lower looks to be a NorthTech Billet receiver (with de fix trigger guard), the front BUIS is like a Troy Front sight and the rear a A2 type but simplified (or an unknow model), Hogue pistol grip (or any other model) and the ACE stock (but we can see they are nothing to move it because it is a fix stock and not a telescopic, an error). But it is not a basic model for me. --[[User:ArmaLite15|armalite15]] ([[User talk:Armalite15|talk]])

== "Combat Pistol" ==

Me again, noting that you guys missed a pistol.

Of course, this pistol is simply called the "Combat Pistol" and resembles the Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in a way. I have no way of getting screens and I haven't seen any so far. I haven't progressed far enough into the game to unlock it, but it can be viewed at the Ammunation stores if anyone had the game and wants to look. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:12, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
:No, we haven't missed it. Read a couple discussions above, we're still trying to come to a consensus on what it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:51, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

Ah, I see sorry. I missed that discussion. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:03, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

== Phone shots ==

So I hear you could take snaps using the in-game smart phone. Would it be possible to get some screenshots that way? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:37, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure, you have to sign up to Rockstar Social Network to do it, and I ''bet'' it watermarks them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:45, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
::Actually there is no watermark, but these pictures are only 640x360, and have a filter added that makes them look like low quality analog picture.--[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 15:34, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't think you can take phone pictures while armed, although you might get some from cops or security guards with guns, and take photos in the Ammu-Nation.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 21:30, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== In case you're wondering... ==

Cleetus' second hunting mission is bugged (hopefully forever) and when he tells you to hunt the last Elk it lets you wander the entire map with no possibility of triggering a police alert, meaning you can wander around in the military base to your hearts' content. You can keep anything you take by just causing an explosion (''anywhere'' on the map, but the jet's missiles don't count) which will spook the elk and let you quit out of the mission. I can't find anywhere to store the tank that Trevor can own, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:49, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm gonna have to exploit that. I've tried constantly to get a Titan, but I can never get it off the ground before a tank blows me up. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:54, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== Can we just settle on the "Carbine Rifle" by describing the components that it's constructed from? ==
It's obvious that it's not any named product (like the DDM4 it's currently IDed as but clearly is not), so can we just call it a custom AR-15 (like we do other franken ARs), ID it by its individual components, then be done with it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:30, 3 November 2013 (EST)

Moving these here for now, since I've changed the Carbine Rifle entry to reflect that it is ''not'' a DDM4.
[[File:DDM4sbr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DDM4 300 SBR with Magpul MOE stock, Magpul PMAG magazine, and KAC vertical foregrip - 300 BLK]]
[[Image:AF02-F-OT-ARFXE-ARULE-5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ace Skeleton Stock]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:53, 19 November 2013 (EST)

== Beach Bum pistol ==

A new handgun will be added in the next update/free DLC, called the "SNS"

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/xbox360/gta5/screens/gta5_269_605x.jpg

Probably a movie reference, perhaps it's a Walther PP of some form.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2013 (EST)

Beach Bum pack is out, the SNS pistol looks like a Heckler & Koch P7 M13 fitted with wood grips and a round trigger guard.[[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 20:01, 19 November 2013 (GMT)

== Gun pic on Social Club ==

Close view of the most used gun can be seen in the Social Club.

[[File:SocialClubAR15.jpg]]

This is a Northtech Billet lower, VLTOR Upper, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip but the upper is strange, it is raised up like the HK-416. And the handguard is very close to the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0..[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 19:43, 17 November 2013

== "Carbine Rifle" mounting an image ==

Since I edited the image from Photoshop, is a mixture: that's to HK-416 - Northtech Billet lower, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, Ace Skeleton Stock And the handguard is the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0
[[File:GTAVCARBINERIFLEMIXTURE.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 21:23, 21 November 2013

Is that a Pimpmygun pistol grip? [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:06, 21 November 2013 (EST)

No, I'm pretty sure he just Shopped in the grip from the Social Club image above. Also, if you wanted to create a composite, you could have just done an image search for the actual lower receiver used (I found plenty on Bing), because as has been previously stated, '''not a single component on this gun corresponds to the HK416'''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:39, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:There is possibly part of an HK416 potentially in there, as in the social club image you can see that the shape of the top rail at the rear steps down ahead of the charging handle like an HK416, which is not the case with a VLTOR MUR which the rest of the receiver is. This composite photoshop just uses a vanilla HK416 upper though which is not correct for the game gun. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:15, 22 November 2013 (EST)

It's all moot now, because I've solved the image problem. Found this during a Bing search for "gta v carbine rifle".

[[File:GTA5-Carbine-Rifle-Example.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The in-game "Carbine Rifle" - 5.56x45mm]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:On seeing that, it looks like it has an HK416 gas block as well. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 22 November 2013 (EST)

== Combat MG ID and non-player weapons ==
This is a response to Ultimate94 recently changing the MK46 Mod 0 ID back to Mod 1. The Mod 1 lacks a 12 o'clock Picatinny, using the M249 heat shield instead. This was done, AFAIK, to facilitate the re-inclusion of the carry handle. The Combat MG has a Picatinny rail in this position (albeit a low profile one), which would therefor make it a Mod 0. The weapon render linked to on the GTA Wiki is far too small to discern any details from, so doesn't prove anything.

Why were the non-player weapons added back to the main categories? Every other GTA game on IMFDb is formatted with non-player weapons in a separate "Other" category. What's the objection to this page being the same?

The artwork of Michael holding the MK18 doesn't appear in the game as a loading screen (unlike the Type 56 artwork), so it should be deleted from the page. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:42, 30 December 2013 (EST)

== Valentines Day M1928 Thompson ==
So there's going to be a free Chicago Typewriter coming up.
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/news/article/52186/Coming-this-Friday-The-GTA-Online-Valentine-s-Day-Massacr[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:23, 11 February 2014 (EST)

It's classed as an LMG in-game, with superior stats compared to the PKM (except for mag capacity), making it a good choice for anyone who hasn't unlocked the PKM, or someone who can live without the extra ammo capacity or aim-down-sight zoom (Tommy Gun doesn't get an optic) until they unlock the M249/M60 hybrid --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (EST)

== Removing images ==

I'm in favor of keeping the PKM image on the page, but only because this page is currently incomplete and it's the only screenshot available. I expect a better image will be available when more screencaps are available and the page is completed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:49, 25 February 2014 (EST)

== Cut weapons ==

So I just found this, worthy of mention in the discussion page at least:
http://gtaforums.com/topic/678397-the-gta-v-beta-hunt/page-6

In addition to several melee weapons, there are some icons for the XM25, a DMR variant of the AR-15 (seems to be referred to as M14), a HK21, and a SCAR-H.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:44, 26 February 2014 (EST)

A poster there states they weren't cut, but rather just aren't enabled for player use. So maybe Rockstar is holding them back as future DLC? I'd love to have that AR-15 sniper rifle (which resembles an M110A1, which, AFAIK, is an M110 with the fixed stock replaced with a collapsible one). I always felt the next upgrade from the bolt action should have been a semi-auto .308, with the Barrett placed in the slot with the MGL, RPG, and Minigun, and made to do more damage to vehicles. The stock on the SCAR's in-game render looks like it was taken from the LSAT machine gun, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:29, 26 February 2014 (EST)

== New upcoming DLC ==
The "Heavy Pistol" and "Special Carbine" will be released next week.
[[File:GTAV-HeavyPistol-SpecialCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
The carbine is clearly a G36K, but the pistol seems to be a 1911 of some kind. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:23, 27 February 2014 (EST)

From looking at the gun itself and at the Social Club page, I think the pistol looks a lot more like a 1911 than an FNX-45, or maybe some sort of Kimber-esque thing. The grip and grip panels look far more 1911 than FN. Cheers, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])
*EDIT: here's a link that shows the Social Club image, and shows how it more resembles either a regular 1911 or some sort of Kimber-style tactical model: http://gta.wikia.com/Heavy_Pistol* [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

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== new page and type 56-2 ==

Hi!
I made this kinda quick. Didn't have a lot of time to check errors.
I'm relatively new to the editing in this site. So if any veteran
around with more knowledge could help improve the article would be indeed
great.
When it comes to the weapon, I believe it's a Norinco Type 56-2 since the stock
looks like the one in a Type 56-2. Otherwise correct if I'm wrong.
Also one of the guys seems to have a laser sight. Don't know which sort though
[[User:Santos|Santos]] 17:08, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

The rifles seem to have some sort of rail system on them... which I think is a shame--[[User:Gran28|Gran28]] 10:55, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

:Most likely is the handguard with picatinny rails. The guy knocking on the van leading those other two men, seems to have a laser sight attached to it. This is a handguard is from FAB-Defense. http://www.fab-defense.com/images/big-details/ak-47-1.jpg

One of the screenshots mentions "excellent" trigger discipline, to me it looks like his finger is actually on the trigger as there is a small curve in the shape of the finger, I wouldn't refer to that as excellent trigger discipline. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:42, 1 December 2011 (CST)

:To me it looks like the guy is holding his finger just slightly above the trigger area, not excellent but still better than most games have, to be honest the only game i can remember that had great trigger discipline was MGS4 where Snake kept his finger completely off the triggers of all weapons unless he was aiming them, but i think that since they're both video games, bad trigger discipline can be excused since i doubt developers want to spend who knows how many hours giving every character separate finger animations for trigger discipline, and also there is the fact that the character can have their fingers wrapped around the triggers, but the players have theirs completely off the fire button, so essentially, it's our own 'trigger' discipline that video game characters have (least that's how i see it) we should save the bad trigger discipline arguments for movies.[[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 16:26, 8 March 2012 (CST)
::Add ''[[ArmA 2]]'' to the list of games with excellent trigger discipline. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

== M4? ==

Help to identify; looks like a M4 rifle with longer (?) and suppressed barrel. [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] ([[User talk:Pawelm|talk]]) 13:55, 10 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I would say that it has a shorter barrel than an M4A1. I would say it's a suppressed [[Mk. 18 Mod 0]]. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 14:21, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Suppressor resembles an AAC model which covers more of the barrel than the KAC suppressors we commonly see, so it's possible it could still be an M4. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:10, 10 November 2012 (EST)

:If it was an M4 length barrel, there would be no suppressor left to actually trap the gas to suppress the weapon. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 22:24, 10 November 2012 (EST)

looks like it has the older CAR-15 style stock [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:38, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:What people refer to as CAR-15s (XM177, XM177E1, XM177E2 etc) were fitted with a stock that was made of aluminium with a black polymer coating as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#2nd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. Later Colt carbines up to and including the M4 had a synthetic fiberlite stock as seen [[Colt_AR-15_Identification_Guide#3rd_Generation_Collapsible|here]]. The easiest way to tell them apart are the vertical reinforcing ribs that are present on the side of the fiberlite stock, which are present in the game gun. As this stock can be found on Mk. 18s, Model 933s and M4s (all of which this gun could be depending on how the suppressor fits) that doesn't really help. However as the gun has the slim handguard rather than the thicker double heat shield M4 handguard, my best guess would be a Mk. 18. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:03, 11 November 2012 (EST)
::What I think he meant was this is the 3rd Gen stock, the four-position plastic, not the newer six-position.--[[User:Sangheili1155|Sangheili1155]] ([[User talk:Sangheili1155|talk]]) 02:43, 12 November 2012 (EST)
I've seen scans that show one of the other characters holding that weapon without a suppressor on it. I'd definitely go with Mk.18 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 01:12, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I'm sure that this is why this image is in this section, but I cant believe these animated pictures as validation for the weapons in the game. GTA IV had MANY weapons in the loading screens that for what ever reason never made it to the final product.--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:05, 11 November 2012 (EST)

:Check the [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] page and you'll notice we include loading screen weapons on it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

::If a weapon is in the game and can be identified, then it should be identified. This includes artwork, loading screens, stock footage, in-game posters, whatever; if it's a clear and identifiable shot it's included. Weapons only seen in previews can also be included as long as the image is from a legitimate source and not leaked. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (EST)

Cover for the latest Game Informer magazine. You can see the suppressor is missing but the muzzle and the barrel is missing [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_AR2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Weapon Selection hope==

So I don't know about most of you, but one of the worst aspects to these games is the frank lack of weapons for which you to use. I am not saying that the game doesn't need 100 different firearms, but there is no need to use the low level weapons once the higher tier weapons are unlocked (compare the Glock and Desert Eagle in GTA IV, how often do you use the Glock after unlocking). If nothing else I hope that this game has at least 3-4 variations in firearm. There are tons of vehicles to choose from, but you dont spend most of your time offing people with cars. Having to use the same repetitive weapon again and again bores me. What are your thoughts?--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 20:09, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Four or five options of each type sound good to me. I'm hoping we get a silenced pistol again this time. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)

:@Spartan198, exactly! The way I have seen it (for example), in the pistol category there should be a standard (Glock), Hi standard (1911), Burst (Beretta 93R), Special (Silenced [if no ability to customize]), and Magnum (Desert Eagle/Equivilant). Now this is a very basic look, but I think you can catch my drift. Same thing for shotguns where there should be a Double Barrell (For range and/or sawed off), Pump (Mossberg), Semi Auto (Benelli M4), and Automatic (USAS-12/AA-12). You can make any adjustments for which weapons are in which category does not matter. But the differences. --[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 12:45, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Seeing the silenced 56-2s in the reveal; its likely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 01:25, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping to see an [[Ithaca 37]] in this like in San Andreas, being that this is taking place in the same fictional Los Angeles. --[[User:QueenSasha24|QueenSasha24]] ([[User talk:QueenSasha24|talk]]) 04:01, 12 November 2012 (EST)

I'm really hoping for a SIG P226 myself this time around, but with the 92FS, that's looking unlikely. I like Valiant's system of classification, though. Using that system, I'd like to see assault rifles classified like this: an AKMS without a stock (low accuracy, short range), the Type 56 (medium accuracy, short range), the AR-15 variant (high accuracy, medium range), TAR-21 (high accuracy, long range). A grenade launcher attachment (if the weapons are customizable) would be nice, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:38, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

==Trailer 2==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzue74y7A84

The only new weapon I see looks to be an M4 type at 1:15. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:05, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Aaaargh! Why won't videos stream for me? It's been like this for the past 3 days! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 02:34, 15 November 2012 (EST)

== Trailer #2 Screenshots ==

[[File:Gta5-1.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 platform rifle]]
[[File:Gta5-2.JPG|200px|thumb|none|The handguard is longer than M4-style one]]
[[File:Gta5-3.JPG|200px|thumb|none|AR15 style rifle, looks a bit like a HK416 to me, also the guy on the right has the same, or very similar gun]]

The rifle on the 3rd screencap looks like a HK416 variant (handguard with these thin vents). Also the rifle in 1st and 2nd screenshot seems to be different than the one in the 3rd. It has a black magazine, in games a gun rarely can have a mag swapped out. :D --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:06, 15 November 2012 (EST)

PS sorry for the black bars guys :\ --[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 10:08, 15 November 2012 (EST)

:I'm guessing it is the same rifle in all 3 caps. Also, in the first screencap you can see the distinctive forward assist/brass deflector that is used on VLTOR VIS and MUR upper receivers ([[Media:NovesDiplomat.jpg|here]] is a picture of a Noveske Diplomat with a VIS upper showing the forward assist). Although these uppers are used on Noveske rifles, I don't think this is one as the handguard is wrong. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:22, 15 November 2012 (EST)

It looks like more an AAC Honey Badger (look at the stock and the bolt) than an HK416 or AR-15-like rifle for the 3rd picture. --[[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]])
:Several reasons why I don't think it is a Honey Badger: firstly, the stock on the Honey Badger extend on rails on the side of the receiver like an MP5, as opposed to this where it extends along the buffer tube in typical Colt Carbine fashion; secondly it appears that it has a VLTOR VIS/MUR upper receiver based on the design of the combined forward assist and brass deflector which the Honey Badger doesn't; lastly, even if you disagree that it is a VLTOR upper it definitely has a forward assist, which the Honey Badger does not just having a normal brass deflector. In what way do you think the bolt makes it a Honey Badger they are pretty much the same on a typical AR-15 and a Honey Badger aren't they? (with the exception of the FA serrations, but from these screenshots you cannot tell whether they are there or not.) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:30, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Very usefull thing i found ==

Hey guys i think this thread has everything about Weapons for GTA V, GTA Fans are really great at spotting things http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=532181&st=0
--[[User:Faizanali|Faizanali]] ([[User talk:Faizanali|talk]]) 03:38, 20 November 2012 (EST)
: As a member of GTA Forums, I can reliably say that anything you see there should be taken with the biggest dose of salt in history. Like, something from Big Bone Lick State Park. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 04:06, 20 November 2012 (EST)

== 1911 and Glock ==
A new artwork was revealed, and it has a 1911 and a glock variant. We should put on the main page?--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] ([[User talk:Flavio|talk]]) 15:16, 4 January 2013 (EST)
[[Image:GTA5_PISTOLS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== New trailers ==

There's new guns found in the trailer of GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]) 18:06, 30 April 2013 (EST)
[[Image:ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is an AR-15 variant, the same as seen in the trailer 2.]]
[[Image:ar-15 variant 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closer view of the variant.]]
[[Image:assault rifle gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new assault rifle, I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. I can't identify it.]]
[[Image:pistol gta v trailer 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol. It seems this is a Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:type 56 gangster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Type 56-2 in the hands of a gangster.]]
[[Image:type 56 trevor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Trevor shoots his type 56-2.]]
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v new stock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A new stock on Franklin's Mossberg 590 Cruiser.]]

I got some better images of the weapons that I'll be adding to the article. Here's a better shot of the unknown rifle; it looks kinda like a SCAR-H, but there's bits that aren't right.

Looks more like a weird FAL--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:41, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, here's a shot of the pistol used by Michael in the rappelling scene. I can't identify it, but it almost looks to have an orange tip like an airsoft gun and no hammer. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:58, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:Gtavgun4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[http://gyazo.com/ca7fae1d3d648ca8a2623bb5adb2bbbf.png?1367374112]] Not sure if it's a Hi-Power or 1911, on Michael's TV. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:11, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm also thinking some kind of short-barreled FAL for the new AR, judging by the magazine and shape of the mag well. It and the Tavor are certainly new and different choices considering GTA's past being dominated by the combo of an AK and M16 variants, which is a good thing. That's four assault rifles altogether now so far (five if the CQBR on concept art shown above is included in the game), so let's hope the other weapon categories have as diverse a selection. And considering how big the weapon selection in [[Red Dead Redemption|RDR]] was, I'm feeling pretty confident about it. Maybe my wish for a P226 could still come to pass after all? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:10, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a higher resolution cropped image of the mystery rifle.

[[File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg]]

It has the heat shield, gas block, and front sight of an M249, the magazine looks more like a belt bag, and the stock looks derived from the fixed stock of the Masada/ACR. The optic is an out-of-scale Elcan SpecterDR and it has a Magpul AFG2 foregrip. The receiver area lacks details, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it's some kind of M249-based machine gun. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:15, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

Now that you said that I start to see it, but my first bet was FAL, in the end it could just be a butchered MG, the stock doesn't somehow look m249ish to me and the heat shield seems tiny.--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 11:13, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

:After re-watching the trailer, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg light machine gun]. The ammo pouch gets a bit more obvious in motion and it's certainly an ammo pouch, not a 20 round 7.62 magazine. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 04:05, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

::I bet it turns out to be something ''really'' stoopid like an LSAT with a modified handguard. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:34, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

:::That horrified me for a moment, but I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that LSAT is tucked a bit further away then the pool of common firearms that appear in GTA. It will be some monstrosity of the natural order regardless. -[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

Seems to be a new pistol, but I can't ID it.[http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:52, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Could be a beretta. Weird pouch like a 50 rounder or something, but yeah now its definitely an butchered mg. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:35, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Underside of the trigger guard is straight, all Beretta models are rounded downward. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:25, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

DRD Tactical Paratus? [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 10:33, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

You mean the one to the left (its more likely an M4 would make sense for a game not centered around gun pron to have a generic well known firearm rather than some obscure one) if you mean the MG probably even more unlikely to me for now its seems like a franke-gun or at least a horribly scaled one. On a side note look at the one in the case the sight seems to be open http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/05/GTA-V-Heists.jpg and definetely a glock held by the guy in the picture little way above http://assets.vr-zone.net/19885/GTA_V_MFT.png -[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 17:00, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

:Spartan, gun models in video games can differ from their real life counterparts. It looks like a Beretta to me. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 18:47, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::Which gun are you talking about, the one pictured immediately above named "File:GTA5 Mystery Gun.jpg"? If so you need to look at [http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_202.jpg this] image again, as it clearly shows that what looks like a mag from the side is actually a belt bag. Also you have the fact that the front sight and gas block are a match for a Minimi, and what can be seen of the receier in this grainy image is also pretty close. The only obvious differences are the furniture with the stock and handguard being different, and that the scaling is off. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:13, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
:::Commando, I was actually talking about this pistol: [http://www.thegtaplace.com/images/gtav/screenshots/RSG_GTAV_Screenshot_204.jpg]] --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 20:28, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Thats what I already said, since the game obviously has one in it, it's probably a beretta. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:59, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
:I know, I was agreeing with you because Spartan said that it couldn't be a Beretta with the squared trigger guard. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 09:57, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Sorry came of a bit rude , I meant to accentuate the fact that beretta is probably what everyone will think it is in the first place since it is confirmed to be in the game and beretta's have that distinct look of the slide,besides there's no reason to believe its some other gun since GTA's have tried to bring multiple weapons (AK's,AR's), instead of doing the COD thing and putting in several AR based ones, since they usually have a limited pool (like 3 in a category I believe) --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 13:09, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

*I was almost going to say it looked like a [[SIG SG 552|SIG552]], but the straight-edge magazine (rather than curved) says otherwise. [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 02:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/GrandTheftAutoV/1280%20(1).jpg Looks like a 1911 or Hi-Power in Michael's hand. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 22:42, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

I can almost guaranty that the handgun above is another Beretta. If you look closely you can see the exposed barrel from the cutaway slide and you can barely make out the step in at the end of the barrel which a characteristic shared among all 92-series handguns.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 16:02, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

New pictures of guns in GTA V. [[User:bonshomme|bonshomme]] ([[User talk:bonshomme|talk]]

[[Image:ar-15 variant gta v 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A very close view of the AR-15 variant.]]
[[Image:GTAV_RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A RPG-7 based of the Airtronic RPG-7.]]
[[Image:gta v m134 without green camo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The handheld GE M134 without it's green finition.]]
[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
[[Image:gta v lmg (maybe M249).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the AR-15 variant, this time with a new LMG.]]
[[Image:franklin's beretta 92fs.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin's Beretta.]]
does anyone notice that Franklins Beretta has a Glock trigger guard? --[[User:Policerlhpd|Policerlhpd]] ([[User talk:Policerlhpd|talk]]) 03:57, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:mossberg 590 cruiser gta v night.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franklin at night with his Mossberg 590 Cruiser. I guess this is his favorite weapon.]]
[[Image:gta v ar-15 variant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the AR-15 variant. Last time I put it here.]]
[[Image:gta v mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Again, the Mossberg.]]
:[[Image:strange thing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Look at the strange object the red guy is holding....]]
:That's a camera. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 08:40, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yup camera 99% (since there is the same one in the SUV), seems that this game will sport gun customization at least color, the green Tavor,the green mini, and now the green shotty. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:26, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

I see a lot of influence from [[Heat]]. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 03:20, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah probably, but that is the trend in general with GTA's they put in references to movies and pop culture all the time. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:04, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

O yea, I know. This isn't my first GTA game by far. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

It's even right in the game, this time. According to an in-depth preview I watched on YouTube, Michael takes his ideas for heists directly from the game universe's versions of such movies. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:30, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

So is rockstar going to release the preview cause, all I have found right now is people talking for an hour about it .--[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 04:50, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:They haven't released any public gameplay demos, no. At least none that I've seen yet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:20, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

:As soon as they do, the media's going to be all over it. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 17:22, 11 May 2013 (EDT)

Here's a clearer picture of the pistol Franklin is holding in a previous screenshot.

[[File:Gtav pistol franklin.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Looks like some kind of cross between a Beretta and a Desert Eagle. It might be the "pistol .50" being offered as preorder DLC. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:25, 13 June 2013 (EDT)

Seems like a different gun from the one in the above, I mean this probably is just a horrible DE, maybe work in progress, although GTA was never on top in weapons department. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 06:33, 14 June 2013 (EDT

http://www.gtav.net/screenshots/ - collection of official screenshots, might contain some weapons not already talked about. [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

== Gameplay Video ==

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/07/09/first-grand-theft-auto-v-gameplay-video/

Go ahead and spot 'em. [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:58, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

Dammit, Rockstar, take my money already! At 3:15, I can see an AW-type sniper rifle, a multi-shot grenade launcher (it looks similar to the hybrid grenade launcher in [[Resident Evil (2002 VG)|Resident Evil Remake]]), and a roll of dynamite in the weapon wheel. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:12, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png Got a screencap of Franklin with a tan M82A1M.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

== Article on GTA V Gunplay ==
Found this article about the evolution of GTA V's gunplay on GTA Place. [http://www.gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_v/b/xbox360/archive/2013/07/09/grand-theft-auto-v-gun-combat.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:39, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== New picture. ==

[[File:GTA5UNKNOWNPIST2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Bonshomme|Bonshomme]] 14:00, 10 July 2013 (CDT)

Is that seriously a rail on the side of the slide? [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 05:27, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

::Okay, I'm definitely not getting this game! Rockstar has always failed with the guns department (except in Max Payne 3), and that thing looks absolutely hideous. I'm done with the GTA series... Maybe when someone makes a skin mod for the guns, I'll get a copy... -.- --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 08:50, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Good. That leaves a copy for me. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:01, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::As if there will not be enough copies to go around, eh? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::While you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I always consider gun accuracy a +1 for me, incorrect weapon details isn't really much of a reason to not buy a game IMO (hell, I still got my copy of BO1). Again you are entitled to your opinion.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 11:06, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::: While I'm glad you won't be playing the game so as to avoid running into some joyless bother online, it seems to me more likely that the gun is a supposed to be some manner of TDI Kard, than whatever 1911/glock designed solely to offend your sensibilities you think it is. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::You have been playing too much Black Ops 2 if you think there is anything about that remotely resembling a Kard. It obviously has a conventional pistol layout with a slide, and the frame and general outline suggests a 1911. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:25, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Well, you know what they say: opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. I'm just sayin' you can't deny the fact that that... ''THING'' looks like a fugly frankengun, that should never see the light of day. I'm still hopin Rockstar has upped their gunplay from previous GTA titles, and made the gunplay (and the guns themselves) in this one a bit more realistic. You know, since they seem to be makin' this game another ground-breakin' masterpiece... Plus, I don't play with naive fanboys... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::If you would take the time to look at the trailer and use your words rather than skip to some nonsense about Black Ops 2, a game I haven't played not that it even matters, you might notice that Franklin uses the same pistol later in the trailer, his is fitted with an extended magazine and is seemingly firing on full auto, so, my suggestion that it's TDI Kard, I thought, might make a bit more sense than just losing your mind and writing off a whole title based on the appearance of a single handgun in the game. I can see how that might read as naivete though, I've had the wool pulled over my eyes and have been tricked into accepting a game in spite of the massive flaws it's exhibited in the design of one of it's firearms in a few seconds of footage and a screenshot or two, right?--[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] ([[User talk:Toadvine|talk]]) 12:27, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::Yes. Btw, are you directing that comment to me or Commando552? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 16:45, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::::At least some of it was directed at me so will address that part first. If your only evidance for it being a Kard is that it fires on full auto, then you should know that there are many other production pistols that are capable of full auto fire, not to mention the fact that it is possible to convert pistols to full automatic. Regardless of this, it is a game where they can give a gun whatever characteristics they choose so whether or not it is depicted as firing in full auto means nothing in real terms. Secondly, I have to say again it looks absolutely nothing like a Kard. If you can't see this then there is nothing that I can say to change your mind, but when I look at it I see absolutely nothing about the gun that suggests they based anything off of the Kard. If you put a gun to my head and made me take a guess at what it is meant to be I would probably say I highly customised (or very poorly modeled) full auto Glock, or maybe something like an Arsenal Strike One (which is available in FA/burst versions) but the shape is not really anything like one, it is just reminiscent of one if the "rail" on the front of the slide was actually the front slide serrations. In general can everyone chill out a bit about this game, we could do without the GTA talk pages degrading into a bitch fest like the COD ones historically have. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:51, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I have to agree with Commando on the fact that it looks nothing like a Kard. Maybe a fuse of a badly-rendered Glock and a I9II... I also have to agree with Commando on the latter; regardless of my opinion on the possible depiction of guns/gunlay, there's no doubt that GTA V is going to be a great game (knowing Rockstar). Altough I still stand by my comment about not acquiring the game in the future, I realize that I shouldn't have been so outspoken about it, especially here, on the IMFDB. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 22:25, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
Well, look at MoH:WF, a game with accurate gun play but pretty mediocre everywhere else. Your opinion is yours, but what about Read Dead Redemption?[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 11:38, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Well don't get me wrong. I care about other elements besides gunplay such as gameplay and story. And as for RDR it was pretty accurate aside from a few minor mistakes.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 12:05, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::I agree with you, RDR was, and still is, pretty awesome. I still play it with my friends sometimes. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:42, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
Speaking of rails on the slide, it's been confirmed that we get weapon AND car customization to a pretty nice degree. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:19, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy the stories and the messages Rockstar provides in their games. But I've never been a fan of the GTA-gunplay. I'll be going for Saints Row IV this fall, instead of this. At least they don't even TRY to make the game realistic, so the gunplay is WAAAAY over the top. But that just makes it fun. PS. I enjoyed MOH:W... well, to a certain degree.--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
::: Well, the gunplay that we've seen in the trailer (and confirmed in interviews) actually comes much more from Max Payne 3. You can run and gun without needing to aim and slow your movement, as well as switch between hard lock, soft lock, and full free aim in the options to suit your play style. You've still got the cover shooting and blindfiring, but you can actually be mobile in gunfights. There's also new options like being able to get in and out of a car while staying low to take cover behind it, as well as entering and exiting a car already shooting. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:33, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

Has anyone considered that the pistol above could be a placeholder for something more real.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 15:40, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
:Its a possibility but given how we're two months away from release its unlikely.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:18, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't think it is a placeholder, but I think there is a possibility that it is a bug where the wrong texture is on the model or it is using the low detail distance model or something, as there are several inconsistencies that make not sense. Firstly you have the fact that there is what appears to be a rail (which is scaled way too small) on the side of the slide. Then you have those weird horizontal black lines at the front of the slide and frame. Assuming that the black square at the back is meant to be the slide serrations, they span across both the slide and the top of the frame, which I have never seen on a real pistol. There are generally also lines all over the place on both the slide and frame which have no business being there on either a real gun, or a gun that is suggested by the silhouette of this. To top it off it also looks like it is ejecting rifle sized brass, but this is really the least of its problems. To me this gun looks ''so'' bad that it must be an error or something. It isn't just low detailed or simplified, or with random parts switched out for aesthetics, it actually appears deliberately FUBAR'd for no apparent reason. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:17, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

I'm inclined to agree with Commando. All the guns on the page are designed relatively accurately except this one, which makes me think it's a texture bug. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:22, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

The Pistol is This ? Houge 1911 Avenger System - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:48, 6 August 2013 (JST)
[[File:1911 Avenger System.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hogue 1911 Avenger System]]

== AR 15 reloading ==

Did anyone notice in the new gameplay video that when Franklin pulls the charging handle of his AR15, a empty shell falls ?

Does that means that his gun jammed, or Rockstar Games made a shell fall each time the charging handle is pulled ? [[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 10 July 2013 (GMT)

:Probably the latter. And sign your posts by typing four tildes after them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:32, 11 July 2013 (EDT)

: It seems like they're doing the same thing as Metal Gear Solid 4, where Snake always racks the charging handle (ejecting an unfired round if it's a mid-mag reload) to chamber a fresh round after inserting the new magazine. This lets them stay realistically detailed while avoiding the +1 confusing that more casual players would have; keep it simple. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:23, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
::It really is kinda stupid and kinda lazy for animating a reload. Instead of programing someone doing nothing when you do a mid mag reload, they just left the reload animation program run, and I think the extra round coming out is really for the Hollywood effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:02, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
:: It's easier and less resource intensive to add a simple model of a cartridge flying out and use the same animation every time. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 18:01, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
Didn't he pull the charging handle a bit too far? [[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 16:20, 17 July 2013 (EDT)
::Looks pretty normal to me [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:06, 17 July 2013 (EDT)

Wouldn't also be more confortable to just hit the bolt release ? If doing a mid mag reload, nothing to do because a round is chambered, but it seems more natural to me to just hit the bolt release than racking the charging handle. [[User:Zebracherub|Zbracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 06:05, 28 July 2013 (GMT)

:It would, but this is GTA, where any random joe can hop in and know how to pilot a fighter plane or kill hundreds of people at a time without Homeland Security (or NOOSE, as they're called in-game) locking the city down like Guantanamo Bay NS, so it's not that big a deal IMO. Besides, I'd say this is just Rockstar showing off and proving they're still the pimps of the gaming industry. Aaargh! Why won't September 17th get here sooner?! [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:08, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

Theres lots of screen shots on the official site, some with weapons (an MP5 being fired by a SWAT member from an SUV). As for the flying part I thought they confirmed only Trevor is good at flying, it is possible there are missions the others learn to do that, SA had them, and we don't really know Niko didn't have any background in flying, Vercetti had little background at all and he was pretty old. As for the killing part most games have that I mean look at shooters even if we ignore the regeneration its quite improbable that one men can take out 20 in open shootout. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 12:32, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

:Nope, all three characters can operate any vehicle in the game, each one is just going to be better in one area than the others. This was confirmed by Rockstar in a Q&A posted on TGTAP forums. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)

== CTAR-21 ==

I only noticed after editing the G11 to a CTAR-21, but does nayone know if this is meant to be the same gun just in different builds?
[[File:GTAVPossibleAUG.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[File:GTAV TAR-21.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
From the fact that it is someone using the gun firing from a helicopter, at another helicopter, I would assume that this is the same piece of gameplay just with altered models. The confusing thing though is that the picture with the better correctly looking CTAR-21 is from November last year, as opposed to the crappy modded for no reason Tavor which is from a recent gameplay trailer. This would suggest that either the recent gameplay trailers used a '''very''' out of date build, or they deliberately messed with the weapons to make them less correct at some point during development, I would guess for legal reasons. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:05, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
: It's fully possible that they altered the models to make them look different purely because they liked it better that way. They're making entertainment that looks good, not real-life gun porn. Aesthetic considerations are important. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:43, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
This is from the multiplayer trailer. It's definitely not in the TAR-21 family.
[[File:Gta5 online 32.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

A new screenshot was released showing a closer shot of the Tavor and it seems to have a P90-style fore-end.

[[File:GTA5-Tavor-Helicopter.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:06, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

== New Pictures ==

Two new photos have been released of a sniper rifle and that AP Pistol. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:49, 15 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtav10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:gtav11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Also, I need to work at getting some caps from the new multiplayer trailer. But the apparent CTAR-21 (known in-game as the Advanced Rifle) actually doesn't really look like said gun in the final game except in the barest sense.

== New SMG ==

Thanks to iNero from GTA Forums for the picture. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 16:40, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Image:gtasmg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Looks like an oversized MP5A3.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 18:16, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
:: Highly doubt that. The only part of the shape that really matches an MP5A3 is the stock, and it has a short, straight magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:03, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Well as for the short mag, Rockstar said that weapon customization is going to be featured. So maybe the 10 round (civilian legal?) magazines is going to be an option. Also straight MP5 mags do exist. [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:47, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Straight MP5 magazines are older ones, and that doesn't match the pattern. The magwell is also too large for the magazine and it's sticking out at an awkward angle. And again, there's absolutely nothing that actually resembles an MP5 except for maybe the stock. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 17:25, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Looking at the SMGs currently documented on the site, I think it now looks similar to a [[FAMAE SAF]]
[[Image:SAF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAE SAF - 9x19mm]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:33, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Who labeled it a CZ Scorpion EVO 3? Looks a little like in the lower receiver/trigger guard area, but the rest is more MP5/SAF.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:23, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

:It looks like an MP5 with a sort of super-short G3 handguard. There's a closeup of it on one of the loading screens. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:00, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== M82? ==

Is it just me, or does the rifle in the first picture of the "Unknown Sniper Rifle" section (the one Franklin is holding on the roof) look a lot like an M82 variant? it has the muzzle brake and what we see of the body has the general shape. I don't have the pic now, but a recently released photo shows the sniper rifle on the weapon wheel photo and it's NOT the same gun. It actually looks closer to an Accuracy International rifle. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 03:39, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

It's a Barrett all right, check this screencap.
http://gyazo.com/946b75dda4df617e58df36a566d7812a.png
[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:38, 26 August 2013 (EDT)

== GTA Online Rifle ==
Found this over on Grand Theft Wiki.

[[File:GTAOnlineRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

They have it identified as a SCAR-L, but it's hard to make out. General shape is right for a SCAR, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 19:58, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== MK18 artwork ==
I separated it from the LR300 section since they clearly aren't the same weapon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:55, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

==Smith and Wesson M&P or Springfield XD? Can't identify.==
A person on another forum posted this pic of Michael holding a nickle plated handgun but the view is only from the top. I don't think it's a Glock because of the way the ejection port looks but I might be wrong. I can't see an exposed hammer. Any help?

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-screenshots/fullsize/344.jpg

It could be a colored "AP Pistol". Paint jobs are among the weapon customization options. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:39, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: I don't think so. The side rails on the slide are so thick that they would be visible in this image. On GTA Forums there are suggestions that it's a S&W semi-auto. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 07:59, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
::The side rails on the AP pistol are just on the texture and not on the model aren't they? With a new skin the AP pistol could look totally different. Either way there isn't enough to go on from that shot to determine what it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:17, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
:: It's difficult to tell. One other thing that makes me less convinced that it's the AP Pistol is that this gun has noticeable sights (The AP Pistol distinctly lacks them in all screenshots), and it seems to have a shorter barrel. It's almost definitely a separate gun, unless the customization options are more in-depth than we thought. Another suggestion might be a Taurus 24/7 or similar, as that gun is striker-fired, definitely comes in that finish, and has a similar sight profile from the top. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Side thought - is the AR that Franklin is holding missing the end of the buttstock or is that texture clipping? --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 15:10, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
: Pretty sure that's just clipping. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 22:03, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

== Game Guide leak ==

Pics of the official game guide are turning up online.
http://imgur.com/a/ov4Rc#ZQjg5L3
http://imgur.com/a/vnbVM

No pics of the SMG or LMG sections yet. If you search for GTA V ammunation on youtube you'll find offscreen footage of a guy walking around the gun shop. You can see some sort of RPK clone on the wall.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:53, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
: No RPK, but the early game machine gun (the "MG") is pretty much just a PKM. Virtually all of the weapons in the game are already on the page. There's also an Assault Shotgun (which some say looks like a UTS 15 with a box magazine to resemble an AA-12), a sawed-off pump-action that may also be based on a Mossberg 500/590, the Combat Pistol (silver pistol held by Michael in the recently released trio pic, which reminds me of a Taurus PT 24/7 or Ruger P-series like the P97 with a stainless slide), and a Taser. The "unknown pistol" in the article is the PT92, which is apparently chambered in .45 ACP with a standard 12 round magazine. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 00:05, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

== New SMG ==
This is an exclusive unlock for joining the Rockstar social club.

[[File:SC SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Not sure what it is myself. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 15:31, 13 September 2013 (EDT)

As far as I can see, it's 100% fictional. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 05:06, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yeah, seems so. And ugly as hell. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:08, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:I see a birdcage flash hider, and the rest looks like the Halo 2/3 Battle Rifle. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 00:11, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

::Now that you mentioned that, I looked up what Halo battle rifle looks like, and I think this submachine gun might have also borrowed some design decisions from Halo's submachine gun. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

:It also has a resemblance to the RCP-120 from Perfect Dark. [[User:RadiumMetal|RadiumMetal]] ([[User talk:RadiumMetal|talk]]) 17:21, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

== Barrett M-107 A1? ==

[[File:GTA5SNIPER1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

The muzzle brake and the right side of the gun, and also the color is very similar to the M-107 A1 than the AS50, is it real?

Check out the Gyazo link in my posts above. If you pause at the right moment, the rifle is a Barrett with a raised full length rail.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:36, 16 September 2013 (EDT)

== Combat Pistol ==

After unlocking the Combat Pistol in the game and using it quite a bit I'm thinking that it resembles some sort of HK pistol. Initially I thought it was like a USP Compact but I've thought it might be more like a HK45 or HK45c. I'm not sure though as at first I thought it was a Px4. Anyone else have any ideas what it could be? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 10:39, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
:The [http://gta.wikia.com/Weapons_in_GTA_V GTA Wiki] lists the combat pistol as the Taurus (well, they say Beretta but we know what they mean), or is that not the case in the final game? Also, that page has a picture of the assault shotgun, which appears to be an [[UTAS UTS-15]] which has been slightly messed with and had a box mag stuck on the bottom. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:51, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::The basic pistol is the Taurus not the combat pistol. They list the basic pistol as a P99 so it could be that the combat pistol is a P99. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:53, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
::I concur, the Combat Pistol definitely looks like a P99 to me. Glad they didn't rehash the 1911 or Glock again for the umpteenth time (not that I don't love 1911s and Glocks, I very much do ;D ). [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Having got a decent look at it today I don't think it's a P99. It's got an exposed hammer and the general shape it more like a Beretta Px4 having taken a much closer look at it. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 18:45, 21 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'm only going by a tiny thumbnail (don't have the game) but it looks a bit like a [[CZ-G2000]] with a less sever angles around the trigger. This is pretty similar to the PX4, but I think it is a closer match as it has a square trigger guard and doesn't have an ambi safety (thumbnail I've seen is of the right side which lacks a safety). The profiling of the slide is also closer and the serrations look the same design (although there is one less band at both the front and back). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:37, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I'd rather say a Px4 at this point. I've seen it up close (I DO have the game) and it looks a lot more like it was based on the Px4. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:06, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::I'm going to say having spend about half an hour moving the camera around trying to get really close shots of it that it is a Px4 more than anything else. The slide profile matches, the frame matches, the back of it matches. The only thing that doesn't match is the width of the slide serrations but that could just be a texture choice. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 12:53, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to venture a guess and say it's a combo of a Px4 and a P99, with the Px4 traits shining out the most. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:05, 28 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know who it was who put the combat pistol as the H&K P2000 but it looks nothing like that. If it looks like any H&K pistol it's either the HK45c or the P30. I'm still leaning towards the Beretta Px4 though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 08:30, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

Picked up the guide yesterday evening while I was out and the "Combat Pistol" shown in it matches the general shape of the P2000, actually. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:20, 29 September 2013 (EDT)
:No one else sees a bit of the PT-909 in it?
[[File:Tau.jpg|thumb|none|800px]]
Remember no gun will be an exact match. They're all tweaked.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 18:10, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

http://gyazo.com/4758e01a97e67d85191a02b267d98a60.png
The trigger guard and rail look P2000, but the rest resembles the Px4 to me.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 14:13, 20 October 2013 (EDT)

== Combat MG ==
It's not a Stoner, but rather an M60/M249 hybrid. Basically the stock of an M60, while everything in front of is is M249. Making appropriate changes. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:38, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

== Guns on the TV programs ==

Killed a bit of time as Michael and watched the TV at his house. One of the channels was a FIB program called 'The Underbelly of Paradise'. One of the highlights was a few weapons on a table and one of the guns was a SIG P220-series pistol. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 21:57, 21 September 2013 (EDT)

There's also a brief shot of an M1911A1 cycling on an old-style crime show/movie and if you watch Jimmy playing ''Righteous Slaughter'' (a CoD/MoH/BF parody) in his room, the game character uses an XCR and a stainless steel Desert Eagle wielded tandem with a knife in the Harris stance. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

And the preview for the in-game movie ''The Simian'', which I saw while hanging out with Jimmy at a movie theater, has several shots of Hunter attack helicopters and at least one clear shot of the M230 chain gun on one of them. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:25, 29 September 2013 (EDT)

== What's up with the Carbine Rifle changes? ==

Uhhh... Guys? The new Carbine really looks like the LR-300 and I thought it was agreed on. I don't know why we needed the change. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 20:03, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't the one who changed it, but I 100% agree with the change. First off, it isn't an LR-300 as the overriding unique feature about the LR-300 is that it doesn't have a buffer tube. This gun has a buffer tube. That is before we even get into the fact that the game gun has different furniture and a VLTOR MUR receiver rather than the unique LR-300 one. As with most of the weapons in the game this appears to be a hybrid gun at best, so it can't really be given a proper ID other than a custom AR-15. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:12, 24 September 2013 (EDT)
:The assault rifle looks like a Hecker & Koch HK416 to me. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 8:43 AM (EST)
::It isn't, as far as I can tell there is not a single part on this that matches the HK416: the upper has the brass deflector built into the front of the forward assist like on a VLTOR MUR; the magazine fence on an HK416 is rounded whereas on this it is flat making it look more like one of the many different billet lowers that are available from various manufacturers; the stock is an ACE stocj which appears to be incorrectly depicted as extendable; the handguard is possibly a Daniel Defence MFR, but if not is definitely isn't a piston HK416 one. None of these parts are really perfect matches, but seeing the quality of the models on the other guns this isn't really to be expected. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:36, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Hmm...after looking through the M16 gallery, and the Colt AR-15 identification guide, and doing some googling, It seems like it COULD POSSIBLY be a hybrid of a Daniel Defense MFR and ZM LR-300, while trying to look like a HK416 (beefy handguard and short barrel), I can't shake it, to me it screams Franken-HK416, don't know why. -[[User:1morey]] September 25, 2013 1:02 PM (EST)
::::Look at the forwards assist and brass deflector area of this gun:[[File:GTAV_AR15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Note how the forward assist is a large flat faced wedge with the plunger coming out the bottom half of it, with a brass deflector attached at the top front corner. Now compare that to the below image:[[File:NovesDiplomat.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Noveske Rifleworks N4 Diplomat with VLTOR Modstock, EOTech sight and Surefire M900 weapon-light fore-grip - 5.56x45mm]]Notice they are a match. This is a unique thing that is only found on VLTOR MUR and VIS upper receivers (one pictured above is a VIS, MUR is the version without a monolithic handguard) and is due to the forward assist being able to be removed and replaced with a blanking plate fitted only with a brass deflector. Both the HK416 and the Z-M variants used different upper receiver designs to this, so it isn't either of them. I doubt that this is any factory gun in particular, it could be that the modellers just picked and chose various parts and stuck them together to make a gun they liked the look of, or it could be modelled off of a real custom gun that somebody has made. I don't get why people seem to think this is a HK416 (not just you, have seen people all over the place call it that) if the only thing they are going on is the fact it has a short barrel and a chunky handguard, there are a hell of a lot of guns that fit this description and are a closer match than an HK416, like this [[Media:POF P-416-11.JPG|Patriot Ordnance Factory P416]] for example. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:All the guns are hybrids, and the game's artists won't be familiar with the internals so I would go with the gun that is most similar in look, even if the similarities are all on the cosmetic parts and the dissimilarities affect the internals. Also the Combat SMG is an MP5 hybrid, not a Scorpion.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 11:15, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== pics of all guns except special edition weapons ==

I went and got the game guide. Here are pics of all the guns.

http://s13.postimg.org/5humxnsfr/gta_Weap.png

[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 15:23, 26 September 2013 (EDT)

== ANALYSIS: Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 (Airsoft) ==

I've identified the firearm "Carbine Rifle", I analyzed it done here

[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-001.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]
[[Image:Socom-Gear-Daniel-Defense-MFR-9-002.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daniel Defense MFR 9.0 Airsoft]]

Ace skeleton stock:

[[Image:Ace Stock Medium1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ace skeleton Stock]]

Reference: http://jagprecision.com/daniel-defense-m4-mfr-series-from-socom-gear/

PaulD21x (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2013 (VE)

Nailed it, nice.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:58, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:Not really, look a couple of sections above. The handguard is a Daniel Defence MUR (or at least a close approximation of one), but the upper receiver appears to be a VLTOR and the lower is not a DD one. Also you have the fact that the stock appears to be an Ace ARFX-E "Entry" stock which is the short one but this is fixed and not retractable, whereas this is extended out on the buffer tube like a regular AR-15 carbine style stock (I assume this is more due to ignorance rather than it being based on something else). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:43, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

:I think it is a customized gun with a Daniel Defense MFR handguard, VLTOR MUR upper, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, the lower looks to be a NorthTech Billet receiver (with de fix trigger guard), the front BUIS is like a Troy Front sight and the rear a A2 type but simplified (or an unknow model), Hogue pistol grip (or any other model) and the ACE stock (but we can see they are nothing to move it because it is a fix stock and not a telescopic, an error). But it is not a basic model for me. --[[User:ArmaLite15|armalite15]] ([[User talk:Armalite15|talk]])

== "Combat Pistol" ==

Me again, noting that you guys missed a pistol.

Of course, this pistol is simply called the "Combat Pistol" and resembles the Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in a way. I have no way of getting screens and I haven't seen any so far. I haven't progressed far enough into the game to unlock it, but it can be viewed at the Ammunation stores if anyone had the game and wants to look. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:12, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
:No, we haven't missed it. Read a couple discussions above, we're still trying to come to a consensus on what it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:51, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

Ah, I see sorry. I missed that discussion. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 22:03, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

== Phone shots ==

So I hear you could take snaps using the in-game smart phone. Would it be possible to get some screenshots that way? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:37, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
:Not sure, you have to sign up to Rockstar Social Network to do it, and I ''bet'' it watermarks them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:45, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
::Actually there is no watermark, but these pictures are only 640x360, and have a filter added that makes them look like low quality analog picture.--[[User:Gr3gory|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory|talk]]) 15:34, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't think you can take phone pictures while armed, although you might get some from cops or security guards with guns, and take photos in the Ammu-Nation.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 21:30, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== In case you're wondering... ==

Cleetus' second hunting mission is bugged (hopefully forever) and when he tells you to hunt the last Elk it lets you wander the entire map with no possibility of triggering a police alert, meaning you can wander around in the military base to your hearts' content. You can keep anything you take by just causing an explosion (''anywhere'' on the map, but the jet's missiles don't count) which will spook the elk and let you quit out of the mission. I can't find anywhere to store the tank that Trevor can own, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:49, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm gonna have to exploit that. I've tried constantly to get a Titan, but I can never get it off the ground before a tank blows me up. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:54, 30 September 2013 (EDT)

== Can we just settle on the "Carbine Rifle" by describing the components that it's constructed from? ==
It's obvious that it's not any named product (like the DDM4 it's currently IDed as but clearly is not), so can we just call it a custom AR-15 (like we do other franken ARs), ID it by its individual components, then be done with it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:30, 3 November 2013 (EST)

Moving these here for now, since I've changed the Carbine Rifle entry to reflect that it is ''not'' a DDM4.
[[File:DDM4sbr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DDM4 300 SBR with Magpul MOE stock, Magpul PMAG magazine, and KAC vertical foregrip - 300 BLK]]
[[Image:AF02-F-OT-ARFXE-ARULE-5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ace Skeleton Stock]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:53, 19 November 2013 (EST)

== Beach Bum pistol ==

A new handgun will be added in the next update/free DLC, called the "SNS"

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/xbox360/gta5/screens/gta5_269_605x.jpg

Probably a movie reference, perhaps it's a Walther PP of some form.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 17:49, 13 November 2013 (EST)

Beach Bum pack is out, the SNS pistol looks like a Heckler & Koch P7 M13 fitted with wood grips and a round trigger guard.[[User:Zebracherub|Zebracherub]] ([[User talk:Zebracherub|talk]]) 20:01, 19 November 2013 (GMT)

== Gun pic on Social Club ==

Close view of the most used gun can be seen in the Social Club.

[[File:SocialClubAR15.jpg]]

This is a Northtech Billet lower, VLTOR Upper, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip but the upper is strange, it is raised up like the HK-416. And the handguard is very close to the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0..[[User:ArmaLite15|ArmaLite15]] ([[User talk:ArmaLite15|talk]]) 19:43, 17 November 2013

== "Carbine Rifle" mounting an image ==

Since I edited the image from Photoshop, is a mixture: that's to HK-416 - Northtech Billet lower, A2 type "simplified" rear sight, ergonomical pistol grip, Brownells 3 pongs flash hidder, Ace Skeleton Stock And the handguard is the Daniel Defense MFR 9.0
[[File:GTAVCARBINERIFLEMIXTURE.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[User:PaulD21x|PaulD21x]] ([[User talk:PaulD21x|talk]]) 21:23, 21 November 2013

Is that a Pimpmygun pistol grip? [[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:06, 21 November 2013 (EST)

No, I'm pretty sure he just Shopped in the grip from the Social Club image above. Also, if you wanted to create a composite, you could have just done an image search for the actual lower receiver used (I found plenty on Bing), because as has been previously stated, '''not a single component on this gun corresponds to the HK416'''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:39, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:There is possibly part of an HK416 potentially in there, as in the social club image you can see that the shape of the top rail at the rear steps down ahead of the charging handle like an HK416, which is not the case with a VLTOR MUR which the rest of the receiver is. This composite photoshop just uses a vanilla HK416 upper though which is not correct for the game gun. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:15, 22 November 2013 (EST)

It's all moot now, because I've solved the image problem. Found this during a Bing search for "gta v carbine rifle".

[[File:GTA5-Carbine-Rifle-Example.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The in-game "Carbine Rifle" - 5.56x45mm]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2013 (EST)
:On seeing that, it looks like it has an HK416 gas block as well. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:27, 22 November 2013 (EST)

== Combat MG ID and non-player weapons ==
This is a response to Ultimate94 recently changing the MK46 Mod 0 ID back to Mod 1. The Mod 1 lacks a 12 o'clock Picatinny, using the M249 heat shield instead. This was done, AFAIK, to facilitate the re-inclusion of the carry handle. The Combat MG has a Picatinny rail in this position (albeit a low profile one), which would therefor make it a Mod 0. The weapon render linked to on the GTA Wiki is far too small to discern any details from, so doesn't prove anything.

Why were the non-player weapons added back to the main categories? Every other GTA game on IMFDb is formatted with non-player weapons in a separate "Other" category. What's the objection to this page being the same?

The artwork of Michael holding the MK18 doesn't appear in the game as a loading screen (unlike the Type 56 artwork), so it should be deleted from the page. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:42, 30 December 2013 (EST)

== Valentines Day M1928 Thompson ==
So there's going to be a free Chicago Typewriter coming up.
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/news/article/52186/Coming-this-Friday-The-GTA-Online-Valentine-s-Day-Massacr[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:23, 11 February 2014 (EST)

It's classed as an LMG in-game, with superior stats compared to the PKM (except for mag capacity), making it a good choice for anyone who hasn't unlocked the PKM, or someone who can live without the extra ammo capacity or aim-down-sight zoom (Tommy Gun doesn't get an optic) until they unlock the M249/M60 hybrid --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] ([[User talk:HashiriyaR32|talk]]) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (EST)

== Removing images ==

I'm in favor of keeping the PKM image on the page, but only because this page is currently incomplete and it's the only screenshot available. I expect a better image will be available when more screencaps are available and the page is completed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:49, 25 February 2014 (EST)

== Cut weapons ==

So I just found this, worthy of mention in the discussion page at least:
http://gtaforums.com/topic/678397-the-gta-v-beta-hunt/page-6

In addition to several melee weapons, there are some icons for the XM25, a DMR variant of the AR-15 (seems to be referred to as M14), a HK21, and a SCAR-H.[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:44, 26 February 2014 (EST)

A poster there states they weren't cut, but rather just aren't enabled for player use. So maybe Rockstar is holding them back as future DLC? I'd love to have that AR-15 sniper rifle (which resembles an M110A1, which, AFAIK, is an M110 with the fixed stock replaced with a collapsible one). I always felt the next upgrade from the bolt action should have been a semi-auto .308, with the Barrett placed in the slot with the MGL, RPG, and Minigun, and made to do more damage to vehicles. The stock on the SCAR's in-game render looks like it was taken from the LSAT machine gun, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:29, 26 February 2014 (EST)

== New upcoming DLC ==
The "Heavy Pistol" and "Special Carbine" will be released next week.
[[File:GTAV-HeavyPistol-SpecialCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
The carbine is clearly a G36K, but the pistol seems to be a 1911 of some kind. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 16:23, 27 February 2014 (EST)

From looking at the gun itself and at the Social Club page, I think the pistol looks a lot more like a 1911 than an FNX-45, or maybe some sort of Kimber-esque thing. The grip and grip panels look far more 1911 than FN. Cheers, [[User:Sandymon|Sandymon]] ([[User talk:Sandymon|talk]])

Talk:Grand Theft Auto V

2013-08-07T16:12:53Z

Sandymon: /* New pictures */

Talk:Sniper: Reloaded

2013-04-14T20:03:14Z

Sandymon: /* Jungle carbine */

== Weapons to be identified ==

Need help ID'ing these weapons. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:54, 3 August 2011 (CDT)

[[File:SR 043.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
:Probably a Vektor R4/R5 modified to resemble an AK-47 based on the magazine. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 09:25, 3 August 2011 (CDT)
:It's definitely a South African Vektor, look at the upward slant of the receiver ahead of the magazine well. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:52, 3 August 2011 (CDT)
[[File:SR 008.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
This is a Vektor R5 or a Galil AR with a very short barrel - if something like that exists... Galil SAR maybe.- [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 06:47, 3 August 2011 (CDT)
::Most likely a Vektor R5 since the film was made in South Africa. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 09:25, 3 August 2011 (CDT)
[[File:SnipR 009.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
That looks like a Mk 12 Special Purpose Rifle or at least a AR-15 made to resemble it. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 19:17, 3 August 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:Mk12Mod0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mark 12 Mod 0 SPR with Leupold Mark 4 scope and Parker & Hale bipod - 5.56x45mm]]
:It's indeed a Mark 12. Maybe someone who has seen this could explain to me why he doesn't have a scope, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 18:33, 11 December 2011 (CST)
:Actually, upon closer examination, notice that the handguard has only 4 holes, compared to the 7 or 8 on the Mark 12 pictured. This means it has a carbine-length barrel. What this is, is an A&K SPR Carbine, an airsoft gun. [http://www.tacticalairsoftct.com/products/A%26K-SPR-Carbine-Value-Package.html] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 18:42, 11 December 2011 (CST)
[[File:SR 021.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SR 024.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SR 041.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Jungle carbine==
No way that's a jungle carbine. The rear iron sight placement alone indicates a longer rifle. If it is short (Can't see by the single screenshot) then it was cut down, as were many longer No 1 Mk IIIs or No 4 Mk 1s to make 'jungle carbines' during the war. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:51, 3 August 2011 (CDT)

It has a magazine of an SMLE but the barrel looks like a Winchester. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 15:03, 3 August 2011 (CDT)

Maybe it's a modified Enfield Enforcer? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 17:53, 3 August 2011 (CDT).
[[File:SR 031.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:SR 060.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

I'd say it's a l42a1 or enforcer so it's chambered in 7.62 and fitted with a heavier barrel. both would make sense for everyones description and that its being used as an SWS.

Definitely not a Jungle Carbine, nor an L42A1 or Enforcer. The L42A1 and Enforcer were built on No 4 actions, and the Jungle Carbine on a modified version of that action, which can be distinguished readily by its flat sides and peep sight built into a bracket on the rear bridge. The conversions to 7.62 have a different-shaped magazine (less angled at the bottom). This one is built on a No 1 Mk III* action (aka SMLE III*) with the forend and handguard cut back to sporter form as was quite popular in former Commonwealth countries post WWII when these rifles were dumped onto the civilian market. The rear sight base and ramp remain in place but the leaf and elevator have been removed. The scope mount is an aftermarket (non-military) type as is the scope - which looks like a Tasco. IOW it is nothing more than a sporterised SMLE, probably in .303 (though cartridges based on the .303 necked down, eg .303/25, .303/270, were also popular in places like Australia). Dan M

Could it be a Lee-Speed? Sandymon

== miller's rifle ==

i think if you take a close look at millers sniper rifle you will see its actually a mauser 98 rather than a m40 remington 700 the mauser has a long claw type extracter which is visible in several scenes.... oh and btw the italion uses a mauser 98 as well . [dalemac37]

== the italion's rifle ==

the enemy sniper is also carring a mauser 98 !

Talk:Johnny English Reborn

2013-03-21T20:26:11Z

Sandymon: /* Weapon behind the Rolls Royce */ new section

== More Stuff (Spoilers) ==
Just saw it, awesome! :) Anyway, a few things: the gun Ambrose had in the Toy Cupboard was some kind of modern 1911 variant, not the P225, the sniper in the church had either an MP5 or a G3 with a suppressor, the Russian's bodyguard had some kind of SIG at the golf course, one of the Swiss guards had some kind of black standard looking pistol (couldn't really see) while trying to shoot through the glass, the Cleaning Lady killer had two other makeshift guns, the vacuum (which seemed to be a 5.56mm by the casing), and the golf club, and there was the lipstick gun. That's all I can think of. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 23:39, 13 November 2011 (CST)

How do i can upload images in movie for my page ?. I want to do that, please help me, i need your help.

== Weapon behind the Rolls Royce ==

While English is first talking about the Rolls in the Toybox, a man can be seen behind the car unfolding the stock of a sub machine gun or PDW. It looks like it could be a H&K of some variety but I couldn't tell

Talk:Red Dawn (2012)

2012-11-28T17:55:50Z

Sandymon: /* Tanner */ new section

WTH? Did a 3 year old write this page?
:::Well the median age of the average IMFDB user is getting lower all the time ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::I think it would be more advisable to wait until a teaser or official set photos emerge before creating this page. After all, the release date is more than nine months away. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

::::I fixed the page's spelling and grammar issues.

==AK as seen in promo pic==
Is that an AKM with black synthetic furniture? Should I take an inventory Movie AKM and put black AK74 style furniture on it and photograph it for this page? Or is the gun something else? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

:Please do.-protoAuthor 01:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

:I think it may be something else. It may be something in the AK 100 series or some other varient. We need a better look at the weapons in question.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 01:12, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::Can American armorers actually get AK-103s? I didn't think they could without difficulty. If I had to guess, the weapons in this movie are probably AKMs with synthetic furniture and AK-74 flash hiders. There was another picture posted on the forum which showed the guns more clearly, and they had the ribbed receiver covers (AK-103s come from the factory with smooth). Plus, why would armorers go to the trouble of getting AK-103s? Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to just vismod AKMs? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::It's more cost effective to modify existing (and registered pre-86) AKMs with AK-103 parts kits ;) Doesn't mean *I* will do it, because it's a lot of work for no current reason, but I can't see a reason why others would not be able to do so. It does NOT look like a 103 but then I have not seen better pics from the production. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC) (correction) Title II manufacturers (Like CW) can build their own from the numerous AK receivers being built in this country and complete it with Parts kits. Again, I have no definitive indications of what these are, but there are tons of new types of AKs being imported (now only European style guns), which is a BIG change from the 1980s when there were only Chinese guns. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::::Here are a few pictures of the rifles for ID(more than likely, these are non-firing props since the muzzle brakes and front sight appear to be filled in):
:::::Those are DEFINITELY resin/rubber castings of AKMS with synthetic furniture and AK74 style muzzle brakes. BTW: those young Asian American Airsofter Extras who look kinda young compared to the hardened look of real PLA soldiers (hahaha) are wearing fake PLA CAMO that looks REALLY GOOD! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::::http://img163.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=81311432742685146627835.jpg
::::Also, an AKMSU with an interesting forearm:
::::http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3010/reddawnset4.jpg

:::::I think those are probably AKMs (most likely Maadis) dressed up as AK-103s. The receivers look pretty worn...almost as though they've been in the armory's inventory for 25+ years. Although what MPM mentioned (built-up guns from parts kits) is also possible, the AK-103 resembles the AKM so closely externally (besides the furniture and flash hider) that vismoding the older gun seems like the easiest thing to do. I'll have to ask around and see if anyone knows who supplied the weapons for this show. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::The Gas block on these guns look a lot like the AK74 style, which is common on a lot of the recent AK rifles being sold in this country now (a lot were built on parts kits from Europe). The straight 90 degree down gas block style of the AK74 is seen on all manner of AKs nowadays. As a note, it's a pain in the butt to remove a gas block on an existing AK only to replace it with another style of gas block for a movie, and I doubt that the production will pay for the hassle, so they may be Title II converted European style AKS (with American receivers). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Are you sure your eye didn't slip? Those guns do not look to me like they have the AK-74-style gas block. And yes, some of them are definitely rubber castings of the live-fire weapons, which is I guess what we'd expect for a production with dozens/hundreds of extras who carry weapons. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:29, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

:::::AKMSU forearm looks like it might be a KAC AK RAS. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:51, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::::::: That's Quad-rail from KCI [http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7889/2655074.jpg]

:::::::: This is cool, I hadn't heard about this remake until just now. One thing I noticed was that all these extras have good grip and trigger finger control... Except that guy with the carbine with the odd rails (all AKs with rails look weird to me), he's got his finger VERY on the trigger with with other hand OVER THE MUZZLE. Good job... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

==Fan Photos==

I have a few photos that show some of the weapons seen during the film's production, but they are all unofficial pictures taken by extras/bystanders on the film set. AFAIK there are no official set pictures that have been released, so would there be any problems if I post them?--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 02:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::Those are still unauthorized images. Any person can take pictures on sets. I had my camera confiscated from the set of [[Back to the Future Part II|BTTF2]], because there was a lock down on ANY unauthorized images that had not been cleared through the studio. So in answer to your question: I would say not. Also undercover fan pics tend to suck in quality. But posting links to them to aid us in identifying guns is okay. But I don't want ANY movie studio lawyer seeing IMFDB as a place which holds the image on their server (which is what happens when you upload a pic). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:14, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, parts of this movie were filmed in Royal Oak, MI, and I still have lots of college friends who live there. Lots of them took photos. Theoretically, let's say they were filming on their street, right in front of their house. If they stood on their front lawn, or just opened a window and snapped a photo, is it still an unauthorized image? It's one thing if you go to a set, but what happens when a set comes to you? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

:::In that case, Image:Red dawn photos 008.jpg in the main page should be removed because it is an unauthorized picture. I will also post some links on the talk page if anyone is interested. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 03:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Red dawn photos 008.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Production still of extras posing as PLAGF soldiers armed with an unknown AKM variant.]]

Airsoft rifles guys, they just didn't bother to use the correct 5.45mm magazines.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_91&products_id=1258

::::Oh, great, not the old "movies always use airsoft guns and CGI muzzle flashes" rumors again... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Who is the anonymous poster who wrote that? Also movies have and DO use Airsoft for non firing scenes, but I saw shaky, blurry, crappy bootleg video of a shootout and they were DEFINITELY rocking and rolling with blanks during one sequence. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::I believe I've seen that footage, too. Those definitely aren't airsoft. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:55, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::::::I wish they kill these occupants in most brutal ways. Like burning, decapitating, riding over with a tank etc.
:::::::WTF? User:178.92.110.168, you been drinking too much coffee or popping pills or something? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Is this movie low budget or something? Because I can't find any trailers for it other than fake crap on youtube using PLA parade footage and GI Joe footage.
I can see why they'd use AK-103s though, the airsoft or dummy QBZ-95s are very expensive. Gotta give them credit, at least they used more asians than Last Airbender.
:::Are asians expensive too nowadays?

Actually these guys are wearing the latest PLA digital camo, that itself cannot be cheap, and they obviously done their research. Don't know why they got AKs...maybe it's suppose to represent Type-03 or something.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 21:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

:They've AKs because Norinco guns, like the PLA's standard service rifle the QBZ-95, can't be imported into the United States. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:32, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

To the guy who posted below the pic, you can't put an airsoft 7.62 magazine in an airsoft 5.45 AK any more than you could with a real one. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Regarding some other pics of the vehicles that are supposedly going to be in the movie, are they at least based on Chinese vehicles or just US Army vehicles with the Chinese flag painted on them?
[[User:BigD|BigD]] 18:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

The Hummer H1's could be a stand-in for the Brave Warrior, which is basically a knockoff of the H1. Try wrapping that around your head --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:22, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

With airsoft, you can stick the 7.62 mags in a 5.45 gun and vice versa. looks od, but still works fine--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 23:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

China has its own version of the HMMWV, look up the Dongfeng EQ2050-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 03:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if the knowledgeable American's gonna know that the EQ2050 is a bona-fied LICENSED clone instead of bashing it as a knock-off? --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 02:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Are those AK-74M's.--[[User:Gunner5|Gunner5]] 11:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
:No, they're AKMs with black plastic furniture. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:48, 7 September 2011 (CDT)

== Remaking a great movie is a bad idea ==

Why is Hollywood making remakes of all the good movies? What's next? A remake of "Apocalypse Now"? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 04:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's debatable whether Red Dawn is really a great movie, so a better question might be why a movie that is so reflective of a particular era and its cultural landscape was remade when perceptions and fears about the world have changed. Regardless, I am still interested in seeing how this film turns out, if it ever gets a theatrical release. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 05:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. It seems like 80's movie are always difficult to remake. Movies like Ferris Bueller, Teen Wolf, and Weird Science simply cannot work now. The same applies to horror movies.
I'm gonna go see this movie, but my expectations ain't too high.
R.I.P Patrick Swayze.

I just know when a movie is going to suck and this is not looking good. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 17:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Of course it'll suck, the only trailers I've seen are mockups and fan photos. Was this even mentioned at this year's Comic-Con?

Actually, i thought the movie was pretty good, i was able to see a pre-release showing on base. A perk of being in the military, i guess. Plus they did keep it pretty true to the original story line [[User Rotncorpse]] 21:33 29 October

does anyone actually know that the original red dawn was critically panned, so remaking a panned film wouldn't sound like such a bad idead to a studio head, its probably going to have the same reaction as the first one, but with one difference, it won't be people complaining about violence or political issues, it will be the remaking of a cult classic without your permission, sorry but it happens.
--[[User:Pistolpete|Pistolpete]] ([[User talk:Pistolpete|talk]]) 01:06, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

== Movie Release ==
The bad news, if you can call it that, is that the release of the flick may be delayed indefinitely. Since it seems MGM is in the midst of possible bankruptcy proceedings and since they are the parent studio of the makers of the movie it may be some time before it sees the light of day. If at all. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

http://www.themovieinsider.com/m4854/red-dawn/
:There are two shots of armored vehicles on that site. One looks like a fake M1 Abrams, and the other is some Red Chinese armored car. The M1 looks like it might be the same fake M1 from Courage Under Fire, or at least is also based on the Centurion. (Notice the number of wheels, and the gap between the second and third wheels.) As for the armored car, I have no idea, although the turret looks really fake. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

[http://i0.tmi.tc/images/p/600/13498.jpg]

[http://i0.tmi.tc/images/p/600/13497.jpg]

The Abrams is definitly a fake. However, it looks more like it is based on a Cheiftain chassis, mainly due to the curvature of the front hull/glassis plate, the placement of the six roadwheels, and the height of it. The armoured car...your guess is as good as mine, because unlike the Abrams, this isn't a former peice of Brit kit reconditioned.
:Now that you mention it, yes, I agree. The Chieftain has the same gap between the second and third wheels, and the Chieftain turret is flatter as well, which would make it easier to adapt into an Abrams. But I had always heard that Chieftains were a pain in the butt mechanically, and you'd think productions would prefer something that was easier and thus cheaper to maintain over something that looked more right for the part. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 18:48, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::IIRC, the "Abrams" is actually a modified Centurion tank, one of several ex-Australian examples which were originally created for use in ''[[Courage Under Fire]]''. The armored car is made by General Purpose Vehicles of Michigan (who usually build armored vehicles for law enforcement use) and is only lightly modified with the addition of a turret. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 23:16, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Don't think it's a Centurion, the drive sprockets look wrong. Also notice the fake Abrams fume extractor is mounted way too far forward on the gun; they'd only need to do that if they had to hide the fume extractor of the Chieftain's gun, which is there. Looking at images from Courage Under Fire, those fake Abrams mount theirs roughly where it should be on an Abrams, nearer to the tank than to the muzzle. Look here: [http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2243 link] and you can see the drive sprocket on the Courage Under Fire tank is almost the same size as one of the roadwheels, much bigger than the one on the pictured fake Abrams. It's almost certainly a Chieftain. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 08:00, 27 March 2011 (CDT)

Man, I would have thought you guys would have been cheesed more that the movie may not see the light of day any time soon!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:I have to admit I'm not terribly excited by this movie. I'm against remakes in general, I really can't understand how you can remake Red Dawn, considering the Cold War has been over for about twenty years now. Back in the eighties, the Soviets were waist deep in Afghanistan, we were slinging Olympic boycotts back and forth, and the president actually referred to them as the Evil Empire. To the kids growing up back then, the Soviets WERE evil. They oppressed the freedom loving mujahadeen of Afghanistan, they shot down our airliners, they teamed up with the Iron Sheik against Hulk Hogan, they held our POWS in Vietnam, and dammit, they killed Apollo Creed (IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXHIBITION! THROW THE GODDAMN TOWEL!) And that was just the eighties. The Berlin Airlift, Korea, Vietnam, Prague Spring, the Cuban missile crisis, Khrushchev promising to bury us, duck and cover drills, those were just chapters in our history books. Now, I'm the last man to defend Red China (the fact that I still refer to them as Red China should tell you something.) But let's face it, what's the worst thing they've done to us? Cheat in women's gymnastics? Sell us lead-laden toys? Give the Houston Rockets false hope? They downed one of our planes, sure, but the only person who actually died was one of their guys. Tiananmen square was twenty years ago, and they've been oppressing Tibet since before anyone here was born. They need us and we need them. Like it or not, we are economically dependent on them, and they are on us. As much as I'd like to see American troops roll into Beijing and tear down that red flag, war makes absolutely no sense, from an economic, political, or security standpoint. The only ally that they're threatening is Taiwan, and we're such a good ally, we won't even recognize them as a country. In summary, the perceived threat of a Soviet invasion was real, as Soviet aggression was real. Our government and the media, backed with forty years of history, fed our hysteria over the Soviet Union. There's no perceived threat from Red China. That same government and media are bending over backwards to accommodate the reds. They might as well remade Red Dawn with us being invaded by Belgium. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:38, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Coincidentally, I ran across this article today. Apparently I'm not the only one who feels this way. Twenty years after the Cold War ended, Russians are still the boogeymen! [http://kotaku.com/5616543/americans-get-russia-fighting-the-us] --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 14:52, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::Um...tell us how you really feel?!?--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I would've been excited if the remake was still set in the 80's, and all the politics were the same. You can update the cast, crew, film technology, but you can't update the politics. Another film that can't be remade today: The Day After. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 00:39, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::You know, to be fair, the last Jack Ryan book by Tom Clancy did have China as the main military villain with a credible nuclear threat. Granted the possibility of a Chinese/Russian alliance is slim to none but the original movie was a stretch in and of itself --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:44, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well, Clancy also had a novel that had us going to war with Japan, so yeah. The original was a stretch, but the threat of Central America falling to the reds was very real back then, or at least we were made to believe it was. Whether is was truly realistic or not is not relevant, it was our believe that it was realistic that counted, and it's that culture of fear and antagonism that can't be reproduced by replacing the Soviets with Red China. Not only would a remake set in the 80's work better, I think it would be more popular. There's a lot of 80's nostalgia. I think people would rather relive the good old days rather than face the fact that the Red Chinese are a power to be reckoned with. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 01:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

::::::The problem with that though is the Chinese were not as big a threat in the 80s as they are today. Their military was less advanced then, as was their economy, and we still had our massive Cold War arsenel. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:::::::No, I meant using the Soviet Union of the eighties rather than the Red Chinese of today. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 03:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, nevermind. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

:::Well having been a teenager in the 80's (born 1968) and enlisting the first time in 86 (when the Soviets seemed like or were still a very real threat to the U.S.A.) I have to admit that I miss the old U.S.S.R. Hell I and many others were actually happy in the late 70's and early 80's when the U.S. and Red China began to have a thaw in their relationship. Gave us a nice counterweight to the Soviets. Anybody remember that? sure there was that whole nuclear armageddon hangin over our heads, but now I realize that there was more clarity in the world. Now it's just a fucking muddled mess. Oh well. I'm going to watch my Chinese made television. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 20:27, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I was born in the Soviet Union in 1969. In 1970-80 years it was impossible - the production in the USSR the film about how the U.S. attacked us. A man who would propose to make such a film would be called simply an idiot. And in years when the authorities Khrushchev or Stalin, the man who proposed to make such film is simply put into prison. I think that the Soviet government feared the U.S. more than the U.S. feared the Soviet Union. But even the Communists did not humiliate himself in front of their own people so stupid movies.
And what we have now? Russian men 20 years ago gave a kick the communists ass (which, I remind you, did not create a crappy movie about the Americans).
But it turns out that our country is in the minds of Americans remain almost the same threat as before (at least - in the minds of the creators of Red Dawn 2, as well as those people on whom it is targeted). What idiot came up with a scenario in which Russia may team up with China against the United States? What idiot did not spare the money to create this wretched film? We have only one common enemy - it is Islamic terrorism. Just do not need to shit in the peoples heads in the 21 century… I apologize for my bad English [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)

== Movie Release Update ==
Was just checking out a web site for movie trailers and the release date for this is now listed as April 2011. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 14:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

So the title should be changed to 2011 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

:Agreed. Even the IMDB page now refers to it as Red Dawn (2011). --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 06:02, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

== First Cast Photo Released ==
[[Image:Red_Dawn_2011.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The new Wolverines in a promotional image from Red Dawn (2011).]]

I wish I had that kind of trigger discipline in high school. On other notes, it looks like they're using the generic airsoft AKs that the Chinese extras are using, and who the hell is that third female? --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 18:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
::The girl on the left is Julie, who is played by Alyssa Diaz. It also looks as though Chris Hemsworth is holding an AKMSU and Josh Hutcherson (kneeling on the right) is holding a M249 SAW. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 23:47, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey! It's the rejects from the cast auditions for Firefly! Hughjefender.

Really? Is that Josh Peck standing next to the blond?-[[User:Gunner5|Gunner5]]

== Bad guys now North Korean ==

Apparently MGM is changing the bad guys in this film to North Korean rather than Chinese, so as to not miss out on the Chinese market. Apparently they need to change the opening voice over, two scenes and CG Korean logos over the Chinese on the vehicles. [http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=75300]
What is the main infantry weapon of the North Korean army, is it an AK-74 copy? If so, then this change actually makes the weapons used make slightly more sense, albeit accidentally. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 13:01, 16 March 2011 (CDT)

It's actually more funny that Homefront had the same idea. So people who don't want to do research would wonder is Homefront a game adaption of the remake. The Homefront developers early on stated they didn't think China is "that scary" at all and they picked a more modern and powerful Korean military and they don't even us AKs. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:32, 18 March 2011 (CDT)

:Coincidentally, John Milius wrote the original Red Dawn and worked on Homefront. [[User:Animalmenace|Animalmenace]] ([[User talk:Animalmenace|talk]])

I can only imagine the pain in the ass that the writers of the remake now have to do to change this all up. And now the special effects guys have to digitally erase all references and symbolism to China and re-paint over with North Korean symbolism (And the end result will look like crap because the original enemy was the Chinese, and now all the Chinese actors that they got for the filming process won't even match the modified North Korean symbols). But if you ask me, I think they need to drop this project right now, and put it off for a later release date to fix up these new changes a little bit more. Especially since the studios are so eager to change everything from Chinese to North Korean just to be "politically correct" and to not offend China since they are a "trading partner" to the United States...

Movie studios have no backbone these days. Seriously MGM, STOP this project now, put it off for a later release date, and fix it up a little so that way it doesn't look like crap in the long run, and show us all that you can do the original Red Dawn justice with this remake. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 19:04, 19 March 2011 (CDT)

:''Especially since the studios are so eager to change everything from Chinese to North Korean just to be "politically correct" and to not offend China since they are a "trading partner" to the United States...''

:From what I have heard, "political correctness" had nothing to do with the decision. It was simply because China is now one of the major market places for American cinema, and obviously, releasing a movie with the Chinese as the bad guys isn't going to go over well in that market. Although I read a blog post by somebody who pointed out that if MGM had just added a new ending in which the Chinese ''won'' (and maybe some scenes that made the PLA look less "bad"), that would have been a huge hit in China.
::I doubt Red Dawn was ever planned to be released in China, since their government has a strict quota on the amount of Hollywood movies that get released each year. MGM and Sony (the distributor) were probably more concerned that the Chinese government would respond to their portrayal in Red Dawn by not allowing one of their major money makers like Bond 23 to be released there. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:11, 26 March 2011 (CDT)

:::Chances are that this film and Bond 23 will never see the light of day until MGM fixes their financial issues (If they haven't already). --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 22:51, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

:''What is the main infantry weapon of the North Korean army, is it an AK-74 copy? If so, then this change actually makes the weapons used make slightly more sense, albeit accidentally.''

:The North Korean defense industry manufactures AK-47 (Type 58), AKM (Type 68), and AK-74 (Type 88) clones. All of them are in the KPA inventory and remain in use with different units. Of course, the fact that the North Koreans still have such outdated weapons in inventory should demonstrate how unlikely they are to be able to invade the U.S., but I guess that's another story. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:10, 26 March 2011 (CDT)

::Far as I can tell, just invading the US, to say nothing of conducting an occupation, would be practically impossible. Aside from their nuclear weapons, the majority of the military hardware fielded by the DPRK is obsolete and defunct Cold War-era hardware that would be completely outclassed by that used by the US. Furthermore, you're talking about occupying country several times their own size on the other side of the world's largest ocean, which would be a significant logistical hinderance. In short, North Korea attempting an invasion and occupation in the US would be a fool's errand at best, and utter suicide at worst. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:56, 27 March 2011 (CDT)

:::Yep, exactly, I agree 100%. The DPRK invading the U.S. would be impossible. Actually, due to the United States' geography and power projection abilities (mostly due to its Navy), ''nobody'' (including China and Russia) can invade us. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:13, 27 March 2011 (CDT)

::::Unless the North Koreans were to try and make their way though Alaska and Canada like how the Soviet Union did in the original Red Dawn. But even then, that's a bit of a stretch since Alaska is home to many U.S. Air Force and Air National Guard bases, other assorted military bases for the Army, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard (I'm assuming), and nearly everybody in the state owns a gun for either sporting purposes, self-defense, collecting purposes, or hunting. So I guess that probably couldn't be a good idea... Unless North Korea is supported by other nations allied to them like how the Soviet Union had several other allies helping them in the original Red Dawn... Or like how in the videogame [[Homefront]] where they had the backing of Japan and the Southeast Asian community... I don't know, I'm over-thinking this subject way too much... Anyone else want to weigh in on this topic? --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 22:51, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

Initially I was excited about this movie, but now I think they need to just put the nail in the coffin now and cancel it. I did run upon a magazine website that got an advance screening of the original version with China as the enemy, which I figure some of you might be interested in reading (it does have spoilers, so beware). [http://www.libertasfilmmagazine.com/exclusive-libertas-sees-the-uncensored-version-of-mgms-new-red-dawn/] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 23:20, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

== Invaders ==

They were Russian, then it was Chinese, then it was Chinese and Russian, now it's North Korean? WTF? Was that done because of Homefront? No wonder this movie is taking so long to come out. They keep changing the script. It also has Josh Peck, that pretty much killed my chances of wanting to see it.--Gunner5
:The reason it has been delayed is not because of the changes but because of MGM's financial situation. The invaders are an Asian coalition, but the changes were to make North Korea the leaders of it rather than China, and to push them into the background. The changes were done after shooting was finished, and all that was required was the rerecording of an intro sequence, a bit of editing and CG-ing the emblems on vehicle from Chines to North Korean. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:57, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
::Even then, the original plot of China invading to "liberate" us from our "corrupt" leaders and economic crisis, was far more interesting and identifiable for me. I doubt it would have been as good as the original, but it sounded like a good movie. Now I can't even take it seriously anymore. At least China is a legit military power with a blue water navy, unlike North Korea. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:50, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

== Well...Hopefully..Finally...Maybe ==
Saw this, hope it means it will finally hit the theaters.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1070010/red_dawn_remake_finally_set_for_release.html

--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:21, 27 September 2011 (CDT)
:Well it's about time! --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 01:51, 29 September 2011 (CDT)
:::http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1143265/red_dawn_remake_finally_has_release_date.html--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:54, 29 November 2011 (CST)

== Good weapon skills ==

I'm not going to spoil the movie too much, but I will say that the actors seem to know how to handle their weapons. I admit I'm not the greatest judge of such things, but I didn't see any fingers on triggers when not firing, the proper stances were used (as seen in one of the trailers, even the SAW is aimed like a rifle, not hip-fired), there were few instances of shooting from the hip (and when they did happen, it was shown to be inaccurate as it should be), not too much flinching, and they even demonstrate very good CQB skills in some scenes. I'm not sure what kind of training they were put through, but both the instructors and the actors themselves deserve props for a job well done.
[[User:BigD|BigD]] 11/27/2012 13:23

:No offense, but nearly all of the things you've said are pretty common in movies and TV shows nowadays. In the last 10-15 years, it's become very common for actors playing roles that involve lots of gun handling to seek out instruction, either from firearms instructors at ranges or from technical advisers hired by the producers. Watch almost any behind-the-scenes footage and you'll often see the actors training with firearms, sometimes even live-fire. And this practice isn't just limited to movies directed by Michael Mann; it's even common in over-the-top fantasy films like ''[[Sucker Punch]]'', as you can see on our page for that movie. So I'm really not sure it matters all that much that ''[[Red Dawn (2012)|Red Dawn]]'' features (semi) realistic gun handling, given that it is, by all accounts, a pretty bad movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 16:58, 27 November 2012 (EST)

:There was nothing really remarkable about the gun handling in this movie, other than how Jed is supposed to be a Marine yet he sprays his AK constantly like any straight up action hero. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 19:08, 27 November 2012 (EST)

==Tec 9 is trash accuracy==

There's a scene where Jed was trying out a Tec 9 like weapon in bursts and had to adjust how far he was to the target to get good effect and ended up saying they need better guns [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 15:27, 27 November 2012 (EST)

Yeah, I remember in the first movie where he says not to shoot twice so that they cant figure out where they are but in this one has no problem with unloading into a tree. [[User:Mpe2010|Mpe2010]] ([[User talk:Mpe2010|talk]])

== Tanner ==

Is he a Lieutenant Colonel or a Sergeant? The M4A1 statement says one thing and the first caption says another, which is it?

Battlefield: Bad Company 2

2012-11-10T13:43:13Z

Sandymon: /* Heckler & Koch HK416 */

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|name = Battlefield: Bad Company 2
|picture = BFBC2.jpg
|caption = ''PC Box Cover''
|developer= EA Digital Illusions CE
|series=[[Battlefield]]
|publisher= Electronic Arts
|date= 2010
|platforms= Windows iOS PlayStation 3 Xbox 360
|genre= [[:Category:War|War]] [[First-Person Shooter]] [[:Category:Battlefield|Battlefield]]
}}
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is the sequel to the original "Battlefield: Bad Company". BF:BC2 uses the newest game engine called "Frostbite Engine", and it enables players to destroy any objects in the map (almost 90%) and deform the ground with explosives. The engine also gives bullets travel time and drop over distance, though this is mostly only noticed with sniper rifles. This game released in the U.S on March 2, 2010. A pre-order package comes with instantly unlocked unlockable weapons and vehicle upgrades. Those being the Thompson M1928 Submachine Gun, Colt M1911A1 Pistol, Tracer Dart Pistol, vehicle Armor Upgrade, vehicle Secondary Weapon and vehicle Motion Detector. Some retailers also offer the AKS-74U in addition to these.

*Note: Two major flaws occur in this game: The first being that the majority of the guns available have the ejection port on the left side of the gun, even when the player character is right handed. While this would interfere with a shooter in real life, the developers decided to do this in the game. The second being that the player does not chamber a new round on most guns when both the magazine and gun are empty, and instead simply inserts a new magazine, likely for multiplayer balancing, even though it is physically impossible in real life. The previous game chambered a new round even if the gun was not empty. While not practical, this is somewhat realistic operating procedure.

'''The following guns can be seen in the video game: '''

=Battlefield: Bad Company 2=

==Handguns==

Can be used by any class once unlocked.

===Beretta M9===
The [[Beretta 92FS|Beretta M9]] is a standard semi-automatic pistol. Had a correct 15 round magazine in the Beta, but reverted to the incorrect 12-round mag for the full game. As of the current R7 patch, its damage has been increased to reflect the in-game stat difference between it and the MP-443. One way to explain the 12 round mag and higher damage than the 9mm MP-443 is that it is the .40 caliber version (only the civilian 92FS has a .40 version, but there are bigger mistakes than that). In addition the hammer is never shown cocked, even when fired, as if it were double-action only.
[[Image:M9-pistolet.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta M9 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M9.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M9.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:M9BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M9, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===MP-412 REX===
The [[MP-412 REX]] .357 Magnum revolver is the most powerful, but slowest firing and lowest capacity handgun in the game. The reload animation depicts the gun with a no automatic cartridge extractor.
[[Image:Mp-412-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP-412 REX - .357]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MP412.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_MP412.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:MP-412BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MP-412 REX .357 Magnum, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Colt M1911A1===
The [[Colt M1911A1]] is instantly unlocked for players who pre-ordered Battlefield: Bad Company 2. With its .45 calibre round, it has the second highest damage of the pistols, beaten only by the MP412 REX using .357 Magnum rounds. Labeled "WWII M1911 .45" in-game. It is incorrectly portrayed as firing from an uncocked hammer (and it doesn't change at all, even the first round has been fired or the gun's slide has been pulled back while reloading), which is required for single-action pistols like the M1911A1. Unlike most weapons in game, it is correctly modeled with the right side ejection port. This is because its model is from ''[[Battlefield 1943]]'', which features proper right-handed weapons.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:957916_20091029_790screen001.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|American assault trooper with M1911A1]]
[[Image:M1911BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M1911A1 in Multiplayer for Bad Company 2, Port Valdez]]

===MP-443 Grach===
The [[MP-443 Grach]] appears in the game and has a 17-round mag, the highest of all the pistols, as well as the second lowest damage, the M93R being the lowest. In single player, this pistol is the only one available; Marlowe acquires one from Redford at the end of the mission "Upriver", and holds onto it for the rest of the game, while NSA Agent Aguire also carries one of his own.
[[Image:MP433Grach.jpg|thumb|none|350px|MP-443 Grach - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MP443.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:MP-443 Garach.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MP-443 Grach in single player, with scalar weapon in the background.]]
[[Image:MP-443 Garach2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MP-443 Grach in single player, final mission]]

===Beretta 92FS Inox (mocked up as Beretta 93R)===
On the weapon info screen the [[Beretta 93R]] is actually a modified [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS Inox]] (due to the slide mounted safety) with an 20-round magazine, larger trigger guard, extended barrel with compensator, and a folding foregrip. In game however, it is the same model as the M9 but with stainless finish, 3-round burst, and, though not visibly different, a 20 round magazine. In the kill feed it was formerly incorrectly called the M9-3, this was later fixed to call it "M93R Burst".

[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS INOX - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 93R - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M93.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M93R.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:M93BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Fake Beretta 93R, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Tracer Dart Gun===
The Tracer Dart Gun is a non-lethal weapon used by both Russian and American forces. The tracer darts it fires grants lock-on capabilities to allied Engineers using the RPG-7 or Carl Gustav launchers. Unlocked by default on all pre-ordered copies, but can be acquired through experience for those who did not pre-order. Unlike in the original Bad Company, the Engineer has to lock on the target by looking through the scope of the rocket launcher for a few seconds at the tracer point. After it locks on, a distance will be given. The Engineer is then free to fire in any direction, and the rocket will home in on the target. It is also capable of tracking and locking on while embedded on enemy personnel instead of vehicles.
[[Image:BC2 Tracer Dark Gun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|American engineer with Tracer Dart Gun]]
[[Image:Tracer Gun.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Tracer Dart Gun in Multiplayer]]
[[Image:Tracer Dart Lock.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Lock on as seen through the scope of a Carl Gustav. It's hard to see but there are some white numbers beneath the orange square. This is the distance and notifies the player that the missile is locked.]]

===Nambu Type 14===
In level 1 (Operation Aurora) Watanabe is seen using a Nambu Type 14, like the other WWII weapons, ported from ''[[Battlefield 1943]]''.

==Submachine Guns==

===IMI Uzi===
The [[Uzi]] appears in the game and is equipped with a suppressor. It has a very high rate of fire, more akin to that of the [[Uzi#Mini Uzi|Mini-Uzi]].
[[Image:UZIwSionics.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-UZI.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Uzi BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Uzi as seen in multiplayer]]

===M1928 Thompson===
The [[M1928 Thompson]] appears in the game and can be set to any class' primary slot once unlocked and is instantly unlocked for players who pre-ordered Battlefield: Bad Company 2. It is incorrectly identified as "WWII M1A1 Thompson" in-game when in-fact it is the M1928 model. The gun uses the same model from [[Battlefield 1943]]

It should be noted that when the player character reloads the weapon, he inserts the magazine incorrectly. Instead of using the channels on the mag catch for the magazine to slide into, he inserts it in a similar way to an AK-47 magazine, even though it isn't possible to insert a Thompson magazine without using the channels.

[[File:M1928A1 Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round magazine - .45 ACP ]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M1A1T.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:957916 20091029 790screen002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|American assault trooper with the M1928A1 Thompson]]
[[Image:ThompsonBC2M.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M1928 Thompson, Battlefield Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Port Valdez]]

===PP-2000===
The older version of the [[PP-2000]] appears in the game equipped with a suppressor and is incorrectly referred as the "PP-2000 Avtomat" ("Avtomat" is the Russian term for Assault rifle or Submachine gun, but nowadays it is more used for Assault rifles or Automatic rifles). Magazine holds 40 rounds despite being modeled with the 20-round magazine. It fires at 1000 rpm, faster than any other weapon in-game except the MG3.
[[Image:Pp-2000.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PP-2000 with ATN Ultra Sight DC red dot sight - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-PP2000.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:PP-2000.JPG|thumb|none|700px|PP-2000, Multiplayer]]

===Heckler & Koch UMP45===
The [[Heckler & Koch UMP]]45 appears in the game equipped with a suppressor and a Picatinny rail below the handguard.
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BFBC2-UMP.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:UMPBC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|UMP .45, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Isla Innocents. You can see that the selector switch is set to full auto.]]

=== Type 100 ===
The [[Type 100 submachine gun]] is found in the first level of single-player, Operation Aurora, ported from Battlefield 1943.
[[Image:Submachine gun Type 100.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Type 100 - 8x22mm Nambu.]]
[[Image:Typ 100.JPG|thumb|none|700px|The Type 100 in single-player.]]

==Assault Rifles==
Automatic Rifles are split between Carbines for the Engineer Class, and Assault Rifles for the Assault Class. All the assault rifles are equipped with an under-slung grenade launcher, capable of firing standard grenades, or either smoke or canister flechette rounds.

===9A-91===
The [[9A-91]] is the starting carbine for Engineers. Fires the 9x39mm round, has a 20 round magazine and is equipped with a suppressor.
[[Image:9a91.jpg|thumb|none|400px|9A-91 - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-9A91.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2 9A91.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:9A91BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|9A-91, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact===
The [[Heckler & Koch XM8|H&K XM8 Compact]] equipped with a suppressor is a available weapon for the Engineer Class. Has the highest rate of fire of all the rifle-caliber carbines available to the Engineer.
[[Image:xm8ccbutt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|H&K XM8 Compact Carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-XM8C.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:XM8COMPACTBC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM8 Compact, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Arica Harbor]]

===AKS-74U===
The [[AKS-74U]] is instantly unlocked for players who pre-ordered Battlefield: Bad Company 2. Equipped with a suppressor. Referred to as the "AKS-74U Krinkov" in-game. Oddly, in the weapons info screen it has black plastic furniture, but in-game it has wood furniture. This is because the version in Bad Company 2 is simply a reskin of the original [[Battlefield: Bad Company | Bad Company]]'s AKS-74U, in which it had the plastic furniture.
[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AKS74U.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AKS74UBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AKS-74U as seen in Multiplayer for Bad Company 2, Port Valdez]]
[[Image:AKS74UBC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AKS-74U in the final mission of the single player for Bad Company 2. It seems that this scene was inspired by a similar scene in the movie ''[[Shoot 'em Up]]''.]]

===FN SCAR-L CQC===
An early version of the [[FN SCAR|SCAR-L]] assault rifle is the first unlockable weapon for the Engineer in multiplayer. Equipped with a suppressor. When firing bursts of automatic fire, the weapon ejects casings at a faster rate than it fires and cycles. This is probably due to it reusing scripts from [[Battlefield: Bad Company]], in which it had a faster ROF.
[[Image:Scar l-1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|First Gen FN SCAR-L - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SCARL.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:SCARLBC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|SCAR-L, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

===AEK-971===
Called "AEK-971 Vintovka" in the weapons screen, the [[AEK-971]] is the Assault's starting Assault rifle. Used as the main weapon of the South American militia in Single Player. Equipped with the GP-30 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher.
[[Image:AEK-971 left side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AEK-971 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC-AEK971.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_AEK971.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:AEK91BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AEK-971, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]
[[Image:AEK971BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AEK-971 w/ 4x scope and GP-30, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Heckler & Koch XM8===
The [[Heckler & Koch XM8]] is an unlockable Assault Rifle. It is used with the XM320 Underbarrel Grenade Launcher. In Campaign mode, it replaces the M416 as the signature weapon of B-Company. Redford and Marlowe use ACOGs, while Haggard uses a Red Dot Sight, though Redford and Haggard's optics are always present in gameplay, they only sometimes appear in cutscenes, while Marlowe's is always there (except in the tanker cutscene).

[[Image:XM8.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-XM8.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_XM8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:XM8 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM8 in Bad Company 2 Multiplayer with 4x scope]]
[[Image:XM8BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM8, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

===Heckler & Koch HK416 D10RS===
Referred as the M416. Apparently in the Bad Company universe, the [[Heckler & Koch HK416]] weapon has been adopted by the US Army, thus the ''M416'' designation. In-game model differs from the below image as it has the shorter 10.4" barrel instead of the standard 14.5".
[[Image:Hk416-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK416 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-HK416.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:M416.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Heckler & Koch HK416 + M203 in Multiplayer w/ 4x scope]]

===Colt M4A1===
The [[Colt M4A1|M4A1 Carbine]] is seen being held by the soldier on the box art, but is not in the game.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2.jpg|thumb|250px|none]]

===AN-94===
The [[AN-94]] ingame is permanently set to the two-round burst mode, but incorrectly fires at the full-auto mode's 600 RPM instead of the burst mode's much higher fire rate. Equipped with the GP-30 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher. Used by the majority of Russian soldiers in single-player.
[[Image:an94-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nikonov AN-94 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AN94.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AN94BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AN-94 with Red Dot sight and GP-30, Bad Company 2, Arica Harbor]]

===Colt M16A4===
The [[M16 rifle series#M16A4 Rifle|M16A4 rifle]] is an unlockable assault rifle and correctly fires in 3-round bursts. Note that it's erroneously referred to as the "[[M16 rifle series#M16A2 rifle|M16A2]]" in the game. It can be fitted with an ACOG scope, red dot sight, and M203 grenade launcher as described below. The "M16" (which ''was'' a M16A2) has been replaced in ''Battlefield: Bad Company 2'' by the "M16A2". The "M16A2" differs from the original M16 that was used in the first ''Bad Company'' in multiple ways: a 30 round magazine size instead of the 50 round size, a three round burst instead of being fully automatic, multiple Weapon Attachments (as is the case with most weapons in Bad Company 2). It requires 47000 Points to unlock, and is the last unlock in the "Assault" kit

[[Image:M16A4M203.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A4 (5.56x45mm) with M203 40mm grenade launcher]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M16.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"M16A2" with M203 Grenade Launcher.]]
[[Image:M16BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|"M16A2" with M203 Grenade Launcher and 4x scope, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Arica Harbor. Even though the ejection port is on the left side of the gun, the forward assist is still on the right side. Note that the front sight is missing as well.]]

===Steyr AUG A3===
Called the "STG.77 AUG" in-game, its official designation in the Austrian Army. The [[AUG#Steyr AUG A3|Steyr AUG A3]] is incorrectly equipped with the M203 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher.
[[Image:Steyr_AUG_A3+40mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Steyr AUG A3 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AUGBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AUG A3 + M203 with Red Dot sight, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]
[[Image:F200BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AUG A3 with M203 grenade launcher and 4x scope, Arica Harbor.]]

===FN F2000 Tactical===
The [[FN F2000 Tactical]] is an unlockable assault rifle, called the "F2000 Assault" in the game. Description shows it is equipped with the[[FN EGLM|FN GL-1]] 4. It fires at a comparatively high 850 rpm compared to other assault rifles, but its report makes it sound as if it fires faster.
[[Image:FN_F2000_tactical.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN F2000 Tactical - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-F2000.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Note that the info screen depicts a civilian [[FN F2000#FN FS2000 |FS2000]] with a FN GL-1 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:BC2_F2000.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FN F2000 Tactical with M203 Grenade Launcher]]
[[Image:F2000BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|F2000 Tactical with GL-1 and Red Dot sight, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer. The sight for the GL is on the right hand side of the gun, rather than on the left hand side or top]]

==Battle Rifles==
Can be used by any class once unlocked.

===M1 Garand===
The [[M1 Garand]] can be unlocked by registering as a Battlefield "veteran" (i.e. registering at least one other Battlefield-series game). Called "WWII M1 Garand" in-game. Oddly, the picture of it in the weapons info screen is the Type 5 rifle. Can be set to any class' primary slot. Another weapon carried over from ''1943'', and hence has correct right-hand ejection and charging handle.
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand semiautomatic rifle - .30-06]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M1G.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Garand Multiplayer BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Garand, Multiplayer Bad Company 2, Valparaiso]]
[[Image:GarandBC2v2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Garand, Multiplayer Bad Company 2, Nelson Bay Conquest. This one is not in the shadows, giving it more detail.]]

===Heckler & Koch G3A3===
Simply called "G3" in-game, the [[Heckler & Koch G3|G3A3]] has a 20-round magazine and full-auto fire capability. Can be set to any class' primary slot. Also, despite claiming to be unlocked at Rank 26, players really unlock it at Rank 22, the first officer rank. One of the very few weapons other then sniper rifles and belt-fed machine guns to have correct right-hand modeling.
[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-G3.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:G3.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 in game multiplayer]]

===MK 14 Mod 0 EBR===
The [[M14#Mk_14_Mod_0_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR]] (Enhanced Battle Rifle) is an unlockable weapon in multiplayer. It is incorrectly called "M14 Mod 0 Enhanced" in the game and has a desert-tan camo paint. Has semi-auto only firing option and can be set to any class' primary slot, has a 10 round capacity despite what it says in the description. Has a right-hand bolt, but ejects to the left. The related original [[M14]] appears in the Vietnam expansion pack.
[[Image:Mk 14 Mod 0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR - 7.62x51 NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MK14.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:BC2_M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 EBR, 7.62 x 51 mm NATO]]
[[Image:M14EBRBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M14 EBR 7.62 x 51 mm NATO, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

=== Type 5 Garand Copy ===
The [[M1 Garand#Type 5|Type 5]] is the standard weapon for the Japanese forces in the single-player mode. Note that the Japanese only produced this weapon in 1945 and very few were made; none however, saw any service. It uses the same model as the Type 5 from Battlefield 1943, and functions in an identical fashion to the M1 Garand. Unusually, the game allows the weapon to be reloaded partway through an en-bloc clip by using the clip latch; this does not cost the player the remaining ammunition in the clip, either, despite that it is shown falling to the ground. As with the Garand in ''[[Turning Point: Fall of Liberty]]'' there is no model for an empty or partially fired clip, so regardless of how many rounds have been fired the Type 5 is always shown ejecting a completely full clip at the start of the reload animation, in contrast to the Garand's clip, which is always shown as empty.

[[Image:Type5.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Type 5 - 7.7x58mm]]
[[Image:Japanese Garand.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Type 5 Garand copy in single-player. Note the Imperial chrysanthemum symbol stamped on the receiver, behind the sight.]]

==Sniper Rifles==
Sniper rifles are exclusive to the recon class.

===Norinco QBU-88===
The [[Norinco QB rifle series#Norinco QBU-88|Norinco QBU-88]] is called the "Type 88 Sniper" in-game.
[[Image:Qbu-88-0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco QBU-88 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-QBU88.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2 QBU-88.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T88BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|QBU-88, Single Player Bad Company 2, 3rd level]]

===SV-98===
The [[SV-98]] is called the "SV-98 Snaiperskaya" in the game. It has a green finish, with the bipod folded in.
[[Image:SV98.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SV-98 - 7.62x54R/7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SV98.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_GOL.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:SV98BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px| SV-98, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso Rush]]

===VSS Vintorez===
The [[VSS Vintorez]], In-game identified as the "VSS Snaiperskaya Special" (rather redundant, as VSS stands for "Vintovka Snaiperskaya Spetsialnaya" or Special Sniper Rifle. Essentially, the game identifies it as a Special Sniper Rifle Sniper Special.) Modeled with 10-round magazine, but carries 20. Fires full auto only, while the real VSS is select-fire.
[[Image:Vss1.jpg|thumb|none|401px|VSS Vintorez - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-VSS.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]

===M24A2 Sniper Rifle===
The A2 variant of the [[Remington Model 700#M24 Sniper Rifle|M24 sniper rifle]] is the standard bolt-action sniper rifle used by Recon class, referred to as the "M24 Sniper".
[[Image:M24.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M24A2 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M24.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M24.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:M24BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M24, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Barrett M95===
The [[Barrett M95]] is called the "M95 Sniper" in the game.
[[Image:barrett_m90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Barrett M95 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M95.jpg|thumb|none|700px|In fact, it is an anti-materi'''a'''l rifle]]
[[Image:Barret 95.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Barret M95, .50BMG Multiplayer Bad Company 2, Valparaiso]]

===GOL sniper rifle===
The [[GOL sniper rifle]] is called the "GOL Sniper Magnum" in the game.
[[Image:GOL Sniper Magnum.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GOL-Sniper - .338 Lapua]]
[[Image:BFBC2-GOL.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:GOLBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|GOL, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Isla Innocents]]

===SVU Dragunov===
The [[SVU Dragunov]] is called the "SVU Snaiperskaya Short" in the game. Equipped with a suppressor and PSO-1 scope.
[[Image:Svu.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SVU - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SVU.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:SVUBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|SVU, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa Rush]]

==Machine Guns==

Available to the Medic class.

===M249 SAW Paratrooper===
The [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW Paratrooper]] is called the "M249 SAW" in the game. Has a 200 round belt. As in the previous game, it has an M249-E2 heat shield.
[[Image:M249ParaModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M249 Paratrooper - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M249.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:M249ParaBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M249 Para, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Port Valdez]]

===PKM===
The [[PKM]] is called the "PKM LMG" in the game. This is the starting weapon for medics in multiplayer. Has a 100 round belt.
[[Image:HungarianPKM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKM - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BFBC2-PKM.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_PKM.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[Image:PKM.JPG|thumb|700px|none|PKM, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Atacama Desert Rush]]

===Heckler & Koch MG36===
The [[Heckler & Koch MG36]] is called the "MG36" in the game. Has a 100 round Beta-C Mag. It's aimed using the Export version's 1.5x reflex sight, usable even without the Red Dot specialization. Using the 4x Scope spec. with this give the default optic some zoom. Before a patch that was released a few months after the game's release this weapon was basically unusable in Hardcore mode, as the sight's aiming dot was bugged (did not show up) in that mode. Apparently, it was accidentally considered a HUD item that shouldn't be displayed (Hardcore features a minimalistic HUD) in that mode.
[[Image:MG36.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heckler & Koch MG36 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MG36.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:MG36 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MG36 Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa]]

===Heckler & Koch XM8 Automatic Rifle ===
The [[Heckler & Koch XM8#Heckler & Koch XM8 Automatic Rifle|H&K XM8 Automatic Rifle ]] is called the "XM8 LMG" in the game. Has the same magazine as the MG36. The in-game description incorrectly states it comes with a built-in scope, when in fact it will only have a scope if one is equipped by the player as an attachment.
[[Image:XM8LMG.PNG|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch XM8 LMG - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-XM8MG.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:XM8LMGBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px| XM8 LMG with 4x scope, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Laguna Presa Rush]]
[[Image:XM8MGBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px| XM8 LMG, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso Rush]]

===QJY-88===
The [[QJY-88]] is called the "Type-88 LMG" in the game. Has a 200 round belt.
[[Image:type88gpmg2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|QJY 88 - 5.8x42mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-QJY88.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Type88BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|QJY88 w/ Red Dot sight as seen in Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Nelson Bay]]

===M60===
The [[M60]] is called the "M60 LMG" in the game. Has a 100 round belt. Functions as Sweetwater's new signature gun in campaign mode, replacing his original M249.
[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M60.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Note that M60 is a medium machine gun, not light machine gun (LMG)]]
[[Image:BC2_M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Terrence Sweetwater wielding his M60, alongside Preston Marlowe and his XM8.]]
[[Image:M60 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M60 with red dot sight in multiplayer, Bad Company 2]]

===MG3===
The modernized MG42 rebranded the [[MG3]]. Has a 150 round belt and the highest rate of fire of any of the LMGs.
[[Image:MG 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BFBC2-MG3.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_MG3.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:MG3 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MG3, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer with Red Dot sight.]]
[[Image:MG3BC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|MG3, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

==Shotguns==

Can be used by any class once unlocked. Can be equipped with extended magazines or loaded with slugs once either are unlocked.

===Remington 870 MCS===
Called "870 Combat" in the game. The [[Remington 870|Remington 870 MCS]] has a four round tube as standard, eight rounds with extended mags. It is always modeled withe the longer magazine tube. First unlocked shotgun.
[[Image:Remington_870MCS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870MCS - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M870.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:REMINGTON870BC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Remington 870, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Nelson Bay]]

===Franchi SPAS-12===
Called the "SPAS-12 Combat" in the game. The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] has the same magazine tube sizes as the 870 MCS, and operates only in pump-action mode. Judging by its barrel length, it is the compact variant.
[[Image:Franchi12.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 Compact variant - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Spas 12 Multiplayer.JPG|thumb|none|700px|SPAS-12 Multiplayer, Port Valdez]]

===NeoStead 2000===
Called the "Neostead 2000 Combat" in the game. The [[NeoStead 2000]] has a four shot mag tube as standard, increased to eight with extended mags.
[[Image:Neostead.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Neostead Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-NS2000.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_NS2000.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Neostead Shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:NEOSTEAD2000.JPG|thumb|none|700px|NeoStead Shotgun 12 Gauge, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===Izhmash Saiga-20===
Called "Saiga 20K Semi" in the game. The [[Izhmash Saiga series shotgun#Saiga 20|Saiga-20K]] has a six shot magazine as standard, increased to twelve with extended mags.
[[Image:Saiga20k.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Saiga 20K - 20 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-S20.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:Saiga12KBC2MP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Saiga 20K 20g, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Valparaiso]]

===USAS-12===
Called the "USAS-12 Automatic" in the game. The [[USAS-12]] has same mag capacities as the Saiga-20K.
[[Image:USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|USAS-12 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BFBC2-USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_USAS12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|USAS 12 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:BC2USAS12SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|USAS-12, final mission single player. This is what happens when you unload several 12 round 12 gauge magazines in rapid succession inside an airplane]]

===TOZ-194===
The [[TOZ-194]] is available in the PS3 and PC beta, but only usable in Single Player in the full game. Has a 8-round mag capacity, a slug version can also be found in single-player, although the slugs seem to ''explode'' on impact, making it quite useful as an accurate "power weapon".
[[Image:Toz194.jpg|thumb|none|401px|TOZ-194 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:TOZ.JPG|thumb|none|700px|TOZ-194, 12 Gauge Singleplayer 2nd level]]
[[Image:TOZBC2SP.JPG|thumb|none|700px|TOZ-194, 12 Gauge Singleplayer 3rd level]]

==Launchers==

===M203 Grenade Launcher===

The [[M203 grenade launcher]] appears in the game mounted on the HK416, M16A4, and AUG A3.

[[Image:M16A4M203.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M203 40mm grenade launcher mounted on an M16A4 (5.56x45mm)]]
[[Image:BC2_M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M203 grenade launcher mounted on an M16A4 in ''Battlefield: Bad Company 2''. Note that the M16A4's ejection port & brass deflector are modeled on the wrong side of the weapon]]
===FN GL-1===
The GL-1 is mounted on the FN F2000 Tactical.

===GP-30===
The [[GP-30]] grenade launcher is mounted on the AEK-971 and the AN-94.
[[Image:Gp-30 ak-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GP-30 40mm grenade launcher mounted on an [[AK-74]] (5.45x39mm)]]
[[Image:BC2_AEK971.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AEK-971 with GP-30 in game.]]

===Heckler & Koch XM320===
The [[Heckler & Koch M320|XM320]] grenade launcher is mounted on the XM8.

[[Image:XM320.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM320 - 40x46mm. Note lack of a front grip, added only to the production M320. The version in-game uses an earlier version of the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:BC_XM8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier aims an XM8 fitted with an XM320. Note the lack of a folding front grip.]]
[[Image:AG36BC2Reloading.JPG|thumb|none|600px|XM320 Reloading, Bad Company 2 Single Player]]

===RPG-7===
The [[RPG-7]] is the standard Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher used by Russian Engineer class. It is an unguided direct-fire weapon, but it can somehow also be used as a guided rocket launcher using Tracer Dart Gun. It is fitted with a PGO-7 scope.
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2 RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:RPG7BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|RPG-7, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Arica Harbor]]

===M136 AT4===
The in-game [[M136 AT4]] has a (incorrect) built in tracking system, and is thereby not compatible with the Tracer Dart Gun. The reload animation is the player throwing away the launcher and grabbing a new one from his back. This means that the Engineer can carry up to 8 AT4's on their back if the extra explosives perk is chosen.
[[Image:AT-4Launcher.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|M136 AT4 - 84mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-AT4.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:AT4 BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AT4 Multiplayer]]
[[Image:AT4 sight.JPG|thumb|none|700px|AT4 sight. The sight is a laser targeting system, with the orange square being where the rocket will impact. If the launcher is discarded before the missile impacts, the missile will still turn to follow the laser point, most likely making it hit the ground.]]

===Carl Gustav M3===
The [[Carl Gustav recoilless rifle#Carl Gustav M3|Carl Gustav M3]] is the Anti-Tank recoilless rifle used by the engineer class. Like the RPG-7, it can be used as a guided rocket launcher using Tracer Dart Gun. It is erroneously referred as the M2 model, which is distinguished from the M3 model by its lack of a carrying handle.

[[Image:CarlGustavM3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Carl Gustav M3 - 84mm]]
[[Image:BFBC2-M2CG.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
[[Image:BC2_M2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:CarlGustavBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Carl Gustav, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer]]

==Emplaced Weapons==

===XM312===
The [[XM307 & XM312#XM312|XM312]] is mounted on Humvees, CAVs, and stationary turrets.
[[Image:XM312hmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|XM312 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:Mounted Weapons.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM307 and XM312 mounted on a CAV in single player. The 307 is controlled by the player (who is also the driver) while a squadmate controls the 312.]]
[[Image:XM312BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM312 mounted on a Humvee, First Person View. Note lack of bullets feeding into the gun]]
[[Image:XM312BC2V2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM312 mounted on a Humvee, Side View]]
[[Image:XM312Shield.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM312 mounted on a Shield, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Nelson Bay. The shield is impervious to everything except explosives. Even a .50 Cal sniper round is unable to get through the viewing port.]]

===Kord heavy machine gun===
The [[Kord heavy machine gun|Kord]] is mounted on stationary turrets and Vodniks.
[[Image:Kord 02.jpg|thumb|none|401px|Kord heavy machine gun with ammo box - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:BC2_KORD.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kord heavy machine gun 12.7x108mm with ammo drum]]
[[Image:KordBC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Kord Heavy machine gun, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Isla Innocents]]

===Browning M1919===
The [[Browning M1919]] only (and incorrectly) appears in the first level as a mounted machine gun used by the Japanese.
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A variant of the Browning M1919 developed during World War 2, this model is designated the M37, with the ability to feed from either the left or the right of the weapon - 30-06. This example is shown without a tripod, only the pintle mount. This is the MOST likely .30 cal machine gun to be seen firing from armored vehicles.]]
[[Image:Browning 1919.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Browning M1919 .30 Cal Left side]]
[[Image:Browning 1919 2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|Browning M1919 .30 Cal Right side]]

=== Browning M2 ===
The [[Browning M2]] is mounted on top of the American M1A2 tank
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:Tank BFBC2.png|thumb|none|700px]]

===FN M240C===
The [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240C]] is coaxial mounted on the M1A2 Abrams MBT.
[[Image:M240C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M240C vehicle coaxial-mount version - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

===PKT===
The [[PK Machine Gun|PKT]] is coaxial mounted on the T-90 MBT.
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun with 250-round ammo drum - 7.62x54mm R]]

===M134 Minigun===
The [[M134 Minigun]] is mounted on UH-60 Black Hawks.
[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm]]

===XM307===
The [[XM307 & XM312#XM307 ACSW|XM307]] is found mounted on the CAV and a pair are mounted on the Patrol Boat. In an update on the 8th of June the standalone XM307 has been added to the multiplayer stats section, and has been added in game in Map Pack 4. In the stats section it is incorrectly named an XM306, but in the in game killfeed it says XM307 like it should.
[[Image:Xm30750cal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|XM307 ACSW - 25x59mm HEAB]]
[[Image:BC2_XM312.jpg|thumb|none|600px|XM307]]
[[Image:Mounted Weapons.JPG|thumb|none|700px|XM307 and XM312 mounted on a CAV in single player. The 307 is controlled by the player (who is also the driver) while a squadmate controls the 312.]]

=== Norinco QLZ-87===
The emplaced version of the [[QLZ-87]] was originally found only in the single player game. In an update on the 8th of June, it was added to the multiplayer stats section, and was added to multiplayer proper with the Onslaught DLC, where it appeared on the Atacama Desert and Isla Inocentes maps.
[[Image:QLZ87Heavy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|QLZ-87 - 35mm]]
[[Image:MGL BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px]]

===BGM-71 TOW===
Mounted on stationary turrets and some Humvees.
[[Image:Tow 07.jpg|thumb|none|400px|BGM-71 TOW mounted on M220 tripod 152mm]]

===AT-14 Spriggan===
The [[AT-14 Spriggan]] (Russian designation 9M133 ''Kornet'') is mounted on stationary turrets.

[[Image:AT14-Spriggan.JPG‎|thumb|none|400px|AT-14 Spriggan launcher and missile - 152mm]]

===ZU-23-2===
Mounted alone and sometimes on the BMD-3
[[Image:ZU-23.jpg|thumb|none|400px|ZU-23-2 - 23x152mm]]

===M167 VADS===
Mounted alone and on an M113 chassis. In an update on the 8th of June it has been added to the multiplayer stats section, and has been added in large numbers to the Map Pack 4 maps, Atacama Desert Rush and Port Valdez Conquest. The only sign of the M113 mounted version is in the game files and in the picture for the vehicle perks shortcut upgrade in the game store.

[[Image:M167BC2.JPG|thumb|none|700px|M167, Bad Company 2 Multiplayer, Atacama Desert Rush]]

=Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam (Expansion Pack)=
'''''Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam''''' is an expansion pack for the original game that takes place during the Vietnam War. It was released in December 2010 as a multiplayer-only DLC and requires BF: BC2 to work.

==Handguns==
===Colt M1911A1===
The [[M1911A1]] makes a return in the expansion. Performs exactly as in the original game.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M911A1.]]

===TT-33===
The [[Tokarev TT-33 Pistol]] is the second available sidearm in the expansion. In incorrectly holds 12 rounds and has the same stats as the Beretta M9 in the base game.
[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:BBC2V-TT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the TT-33.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-TT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player's character holds a TT-33 pistol.]]

==Submachine Guns==
===PPSh-41===
The [[PPSh-41]] is available to the Engineer class. Called "PPSh" in the game. Despite being modeled with a 71-round drum magazine, the in-game weapon has a capacity of 25 rounds and also has a very slow rate of fire. This was done to balance out game statistics.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|450px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377631photo_1292995572battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41]]
[[Image:BC2V-PPSH.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41 in idle.]]
[[Image:Asdadsadsasdasdasda.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the submachine gun.]]

===Ingram MAC-10===
The [[MAC-10]] appears as "M10" in the game and has a unrealistic 40-round magazine capacity.
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|none|300px|MAC-10 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377661photo_1292995623battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MAC-10]]
[[Image:BC2V-MAC10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MAC-10 in idle.]]
[[Image:Mac10123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming the MAC-10. The symbol of the peace is scratched into the back of the gun. Sights are incorrectly placed, and shot placement would be above your intended target in reality.]]

===IMI Uzi===
The [[Uzi]] makes a return in the expansion. This time it appears without a suppressor.
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377651photo_1292995608battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Uzi]]
[[Image:BC2V-UZI.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holding the Uzi.]]
[[Image:Uzi123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the Uzi.]]

==Assault Rifles / Battle Rifles==
===Colt Model 715===
The [[Colt Model 715]] is issued to the Assault Kit. It can be identified by the brass defector an newer forward bolt assist. It has been modeled with a three prong flash hider and a triangular handguard. A similar concept and design can be seen in the film [[Operation Dumbo Drop]]. Called M16A1 in game. Has the highest rate of fire but the slowest reload among the assault rifles. Has a 30-round capacity despite being modeled with a Vietnam-era 20-round magazine.
[[Image:Colt715 C7Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 715 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377591photo_1292995457battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt 715]]
[[Image:BC2V-M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player holding the 715 in BC2: Vietnam.]]
[[Image:M16_reloading.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the 715 in the game.]]
[[Image:M16_sighth.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Iron sights of the Colt 715 rifle.]]

===AK-47===
The [[AK-47]] appears in the expansion as an other usable assault rifle. It is very popular in the game due to its high damage and moderate accuracy.
[[Image:TypeIII_AK47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Izhmash AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377601photo_1292995478battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-47. Note that the cloth wrapped around the receiver would cause issues with the charging-handle's reciprocation.]]
[[Image:BC2V-AK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AK-47 in idle.]]
[[Image:Reloadingvietnam.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the AK-47 in the game. Actually it is more like a hybrid, as it has a stamped receiver but lacks the slant muzzle brake.]]

===M14===
Dubbed an assault rifle in-game, the [[M14]] is fully automatic in the expansion, it has the highest damage but the slow rate of fire and a 20-round magazine. Referred to as "M14 Assault".
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377611photo_1292995507battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M14]]
[[Image:BC2V-M14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M14 in the player's hands.]]
[[Image:M14123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M14 - Iron sights.]]

==Sniper Rifles==
===Norinco NDM-86===
The [[SVD Dragunov#Norinco NDM-86|Norinco NDM-86]] is used by the Recon class. Holds 10 rounds and has a stronger default scope than any other sniper rifle in the game. It is incorrectly identified as a SVD in-game when in-fact it is a Norinco NDM-86, a .308 version made in China, using straight magazines. This particular model would be anachronistic.
[[Image:Ndm86.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco NDM-86 - .308 Winchester/7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BBC2V-NDM86-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the "SVD".]]
[[Image:BBC2V-NDM86-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|First person view of an NDM-86 rifle.]]

===M40 Sniper Rifle===
The [[Remington Model 700#M40 Sniper Rifle|M40 Sniper Rifle]] is the most powerful non-explosive weapon in the game capable of killing anyone in one shot to the head or chest. Its only drawback is the 5-round capacity and slow (bolt-action) rate of fire. The rifle is incorrectly portrayed with a 5-round detachable box magazine instead of the internal magazine. The [[M40A5]] (introduced in 2009) is the variant that has a removable magazine.
[[Image:M40a1standard-1-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M40A1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M40-1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The M40's stats.]]
[[Image:BC2V-M40.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The player's character wields an M40A1 in the game.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M40-2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The player's character reloads the M40A1.]]

===M21===
The [[M21]] sniper rifle is modeled with a 20-round magazine but holds only 10 bullets. It is identical to the SVD Dragunov in stats.
[[Image:Xm21rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M21 Sniper Rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M21-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M21 rifle.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M21-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Using the M21 sniper rifle.]]

==Shotgun==
===Remington 870===
The [[Remington 870 Shotgun]] appears as "870 Combat" an is the only usable shotgun in the expansion. It has wooden furniture and no accessory rails, and does even higher damage at close range than in the base game.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:BBC2V-870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the Remington 870.]]
[[Image:BC2V-870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Remington 870 in the player's hands.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player's character wields a 870.]]

==Machine Guns==
===Stoner 63===
The [[Stoner 63]] is called the "XM22" in the game, and feeds from a 200-round belt box. Note that the belt feeds into the left side of the weapon instead of the right, and that the reload animation is entirely incorrect (it is the same as BC2's M249 SAW's, while the XM22 has no charging handle on the right side).
[[Image:StonerM63.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Stoner 63 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377681photo_1292995682battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stoner 63]]
[[Image:Asdadsasdasdasdasdas.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Stoner 63 in first person.]]

===RPK===
The [[RPK]] appears with an incorrect 100-round drum mag (should hold 75 rounds) in the expansion. Has the fastest reload time among the light machine guns. Due to this being nothing more than a model replacement for the base game's PKM, spent brass is seen ejecting to the left side, right through the receiver cover instead of through the ejection port.
[[Image:Rpk_01_drum.jpg|thumb|none|501px|RPK - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377691photo_1292995705battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPK]]
[[Image:Pkm123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shooting the RPK.]]
[[Image:Pkmreloading.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading animation of the RPK.]]

===M60===
The [[M60]] is available to the medic class, and differs only cosmetically from the version found in the base game.
[[Image:M60GPMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun with bipod folded - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Draft_lens16760121module142377701photo_1292995724battlefield_bad_company_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M60]]
[[Image:M60123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shooting the M60 machine gun.]]

===M60D===
Two [[M60D]] machine guns are mounted on every UH-1 "Huey" helicopter. It appears to be modeled with the lower handguard of the normal M60.
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60D - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HueyM60DMount.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M60D Machine Gun on the M23 Armament Subsystem]]

===Browning M1919===
The [[Browning M1919]] is seen mounted on American M15A jeeps & River Patrol Boats.
[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 on M2 tripod - .30-06]]
[[Image:Twin30Cal.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Twin mount Browning M1919 similar to the ones on River Patrol Boats.]]
[[Image:PBRMainSeat.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twin Browning M1919 in-game as seen from the gunner seat on a River Patrol Boat.]]
[[Image:PBRSecondSeat.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Single Browning M1919 gunner seat on a River Patrol Boat.]]

===MG34===
The [[MG34]] is mounted on NVA T54 tanks and GAZ69 trucks.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 with front and rear sights folded down - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

===Browning M2===
The [[Browning M2]] appears to be the mounted HMG on the M48 Patton Tank.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:M2BrowningM48Patton.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Browning M2 mounted on M48 Patton.]]
[[Image:M48Pattonm2Browning.jpg|thumb|none|550px|An close up view of the commander's cupola and the M2 Browning on a real M48 Patton.]]
[[Image:USMBTM48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A picture of the in-game M48 Patton where we can clearly see the mounted the M2 Browning.]]

==Launchers==
===M79===
The [[M79 grenade launcher]] is issued as a gadget to the Assault kit. It is the equivalent of the 40mm Grenade Launchers from the base game. It can be decked out in a tiger-stripe paint scheme as seen in ''[[Apocalypse Now]]''.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40mm]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M79.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:BC2V-M79.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M79 has a spiraling tiger stripe pattern on it, featured in the original ''[[Battlefield: Vietnam]]'', and an obvious homage to ''Apocalypse Now''.]]

===RPG-7===
In Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam, the [[RPG-7]] is issued to the Engineer kit. It features its standard iron sights and is similar to the RPG-7 from the base game.
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:BC2V-RPG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Holding the RPG-7 in the game.]]

==Miscellaneous==
===M2 Flamethrower===
The [[M2 Flamethrower]] is a powerful weapon issued to all kits. It has a limited amount of fuel (300 "rounds"), but this allows a continuous spray of fire until it runs out. It doesn't have a reload animation. Any spare gas will be instantly loaded if the reload button is pressed.
[[Image:M2_Flamethrower.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M2 Flamethrower]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stats of the M2 flamethrower.]]
[[Image:BBC2V-M2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The player's character holds the M2.]]
[[Image:BC2V-Flamethrower.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Firing the M2 Flamethrower.]]
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Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

2012-10-21T12:22:30Z

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See [[Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3/Archive 1]] and [[Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3/Archive 2]] for older discussions.

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== HD Screenshots from the MW3 Commercial ==

Here's some screenshots from the MW3 Commercial starring [[Sam Worthington]] and [[Jonah Hill]]:

It might be a good idea to give this its own subheading (or even sub-page, there's a lot of weapons in the trailer). Usually we cover guns that appear in trailers and previews, but it's rather unique for a game trailer to have so many real weapons in it, and it'd look weird shoehorning shots from this trailer into the main page's gun entries. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:28, 18 November 2011 (CST)
:Here's some more screenshots from the same commercial. Note that I accidentally uploaded an existing screenshot. The following weapons appear in the commercial: FN SCAR-L, Czech Skorpions, RPG-7, M67 grenade, Barret M82, 9-Bang, M4A1 Carbine, M1911 and its modern variants, AKMS, Remington RSASS, M60E4, M16A2, and the M203 launcher. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:56, 18 November 2011 (CST)
::Actually, that "SCAR-L" is an ACR. :\ BTW, I just love this commercial for some reason. =) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 19:28, 19 November 2011 (CST)
:::Seeing Sam Worthington in it just feels weird, since he's the star of BO. Do you think it was a dig at Treyarch? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:57, 22 November 2011 (CST)
::::Well, the rules on IMFDB state that commercials are not allowed to have their own pages. But maybe these screenshots can have their own section on the bottom of the Modern Warfare 3 main page as a "trivia special"? --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 01:58, 23 November 2011 (CST)
:::::The thing is while commercials are not allowed, ''trailers'' usually are allowed on the main page. I think in this very unusual case this trailer has enough guns to warrant a page of it's own. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:52, 23 November 2011 (CST)
::::::Hmm... that would be nice to see a page about this trailer on here. But then again, we'd probably have other people complaining that it would be our obligation to also include pages for the live action trailer for Call of Duty: Black Ops, the Black Ops Zombies trailer and the Rezurrection expansion pack trailer. Personally I say put all these screenshots on the bottom of the Modern Warfare 3 page as a "trivia special", and if someone wants to add screenshots from the live action trailers for Black Ops and it's expansions, then I agree on the same deal; putting them on the bottom of the main page as a "trivia special" --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 07:36, 24 November 2011 (CST)
:::::::Naw, if you actually did the gun IDs properly for this trailer it'd be about the same size as the actual page. I think for this a sub-page is probably the best bet. And to be honest, if someone wanted to make the three pages you mention, I'd say the same would apply (and as to complaining, the standard "make it yourself if you want it done so bad" response would be fine). It's not like this is going to be a huge issue with games companies suddenly ''all'' having live action trailers with loads of guns in them. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:16, 24 November 2011 (CST)
In my opinion, I would rather create a small section for the commercial instead of making a separate page for it in compliance with Imfdb rules. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 03:34, 25 November 2011 (CST)
:IMFDB rules say nothing about trailers, only commercials which are ''not'' trailers are forbidden. I'm saying create a sub-page for it since it would be ''way'' bigger than a "small section" if you did it properly, which is how it should be done. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:26, 25 November 2011 (CST)

[[File:MW3Com 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Vet ([[Sam Worthington]]) loads up his ACR during the opening battle in New York City.]]
[[File:MW3Com 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Vet then switches to his dual Skorpions during the first engagement.]]
[[File:MW3Com 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the battle in Germany, The n00b aims an RPG-7 at an enemy sniper, as The Vet looks on in disbelief at such a choice.]]
^That one makes me laugh my ass off every time I look at it. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:41, 22 November 2011 (CST)
:"No!" "YES!" [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 00:22, 20 July 2012 (CDT)
[[File:MW3Com 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The n00b now shows off the skills he's learned from The Vet.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The n00b ([[Jonah Hill]]) realizes the mistake he's just made in pulling the pin from his M67 grenade prematurely in the opening battle in New York City.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Vet draws his dual Skorpions. Interestingly, there are no holsters for these weapons. This could be a sly joke about game mechanics; in the games, the player's second weapon is indeed shown stuck to their back with no visible means of attachment.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Vet now stares down at an attacking Mi-28 "Havoc" helicopter...]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...and dodges an incoming missile from the Havoc.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The n00b charges onto the war-torn New York City streets in typical n00b fashion; spraying from the hip and yelling a war-cry like you're Arnold Schwarzenegger. Just like any typical n00b, he also "noob tubes".]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Unfortunately, The n00b forgot about one thing; watch out for hidden landmines!]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The n00b and The Vet sneak up on the enemy sniper during the battle in Germany.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Watch, and learn!" The Vet once again tries to show The n00b how to prepare for combat properly during the battle in Paris.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The n00b learns what it's like to fight in zero gravity in a recreation of the mission "Turbulence".]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Take a break big dog, I got this!" The n00b prepares to show that he's proven his worth on the battlefield.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the battle in New York City, The n00b switches from his ACR to his M1911. Smart choice. Not bad for a n00b!]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The n00b fires his M1911.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The n00b and The Vet walk side-by-side on the battlefield, as the trailer's tagline appears on the screen.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another n00b (Dwight Howard) comes onto the battlefield, displaying the typical n00b mannerisms.]]
[[Image:MW3Noob-16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The n00b whoops with joy after spraying the battlefield with his M16A2/M203 combo.]]

^Isn't that... crap, what's his name... he played Jet Jackson on that Disney Channel show. Anyway, isn't that Jet Jackson? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:23, 29 August 2012 (CDT)
:Nope, the Famous Jett Jackson was played by Lee Thompson Young http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Famous_Jett_Jackson --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 15:39, 29 August 2012 (CDT)

== Unknown grenade ==

Any idea what this is?

[[Image:MW3-Gasgren-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

It's the gas grenade Price throws when he's interrogating Waarabe. Looks almost like a VOG grenade with a pin stuck on one end, or an M34 after a crash diet. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:21, 25 November 2011 (CST)

== Desert Eagle ==

Now that's settled, Evil Tim, can you do the same treatment to the slide markings, as I think it might actually say Desert Hawk rather than Eagle, but don't have anything on this computer to clear it up. Can make out though that this is a Magnum Research as the bottom line ends in ''Minneapolis MN''. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:08, 25 November 2011 (CST)

:[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/GMCMA/Other%20stuff/2011-11-25_00070.jpg This is a slightly different gradient mapping] (you can still see the E, it's the same image, on photobucket to save server space), but it actually looks like the second word is completely missing. I don't see why, they thank MR and "Desert Eagle" (which is a separate thing?) in the credits. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:22, 25 November 2011 (CST)
::Thanks, to me it look like it says either "Hank" or "Hawk" and am assuming Hawk, as that is less mental. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:48, 25 November 2011 (CST)

:Ok, ok, calming down now. Here's where we get back to fun because the magazine is both correctly and incorrectly modelled!

:[[Image:MW3-Deagle-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

:Notice the spacing imples four holes in the magazine (a .44 would have 5) but the number of visible bullets I believe implies a .44 (a .50AE would only have three, unless the side of the top bullet at the side is supposed to be the side of the one at the ''top'' of the magazine). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]]

::Also, .44 Magnum is a rimmed caliber, and while I don't completely expect them to get this correct, the cartridges in the magazine are not rimmed, which would be characteristic of .50 AE rounds. Just a side note! --[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 11:14, 25 November 2011 (CST)

:::I think it is meant to be the .50 AE mag, but is thrown off by two thing. Firstly the top round is smaller than the other visible rounds, and looks like it overlaps the top one as well. Secondly, the window is too long on this gun, being about a 1/3 the total length of the magazine. On a real magazine (.44 or .50, they are the same apart from the holes) the window in only about 1/4 the length of the magazine. These two factors combined mean more bullets are visible than there should be. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:48, 25 November 2011 (CST)

::::The mags are pretty much made up to be just something to stick into the gun. They are so far from the real thing they can't really even be credited towards either gun.--[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 15:31, 25 November 2011 (CST)

:::::Well, the number of "windows" does tell you how many rounds, and the spacing says 4 rather than 5, so it's just another mistake with 8 rounds in a 7-round magazine. You want horrible magazines you need to go back to the original MW, if you were ''lucky'' you'd have two completely flat bullets on the top that looked a bit like they were for the right kind of gun. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 15:37, 25 November 2011 (CST)

::::::Yes, but a mag window never extends into the feed lips like in the picture. lol... And honestly, I never looked at the original MW mags. I'll take your word there.--[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 15:50, 25 November 2011 (CST)

:::::::Well, I'm probably going to redo those at some point because I hate that page. Also, the window does that, I imagine, because they're BS'ing based on an Airsoft magazine, where the feed lips are instead the plastic top of the mag with the BB feeder and gas vent. I guess they knew there was a hole in the side of the magazine (which on the Airsoft version isn't a hole but a dip containing a little latch that releases the slide and such), knew there were feed lips, but weren't sure how the two things interacted with each other. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 15:55, 25 November 2011 (CST)

::::::::Lol yea we'll just go with that explanation... --[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 15:58, 25 November 2011 (CST)

:::::::::The top of the magazine is correct, and the windows does extend up into the feed lips like this. See here for a side by side comparison of both .50 and .44 magazines showing this: http://www.magnumresearch.com/docs/MagazineOffer.pdf. It also seems like the crimp on the front of the magazine is different for the two calibers, but you don't get a good enough look at the magazine to work out which, if either, the game magazine is based on. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:08, 25 November 2011 (CST)

:::::::::::Yeah, you're right, I just checked a couple more images on Google to be sure. I can't imagine that does much for the life of the feed lips? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:18, 25 November 2011 (CST)

:::::::::::: Yeaaaaa That explains why I've heard that the lifespan of DE mags are so short... Ok then lol --[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 21:34, 25 November 2011 (CST)

== Mk 14 ==

So, I guess they just figured "nobody's going to throw their rifle on the floor and ''check'' it's the same one the other guys are using, right?" And they'd have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for us meddlin' kids. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 16:52, 25 November 2011 (CST)

... what's the problem? --[[User:Ghostdigga|Ghostdigga]] 04:51, 27 November 2011 (CST)

:The "Mk14" and "M14 EBR" are actually the same model (the Mk 14 Mod 0), even though it seems they want you to think the "M14 EBR" is the Mk 14 Mod 1 from the previous game. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:17, 27 November 2011 (CST)

== Since it's locked... ==

Can a mod change the bit about the M65 Atomic Annie?

"A doctored image of the nuclear test Upshot-Knothole Grable can be seen in some maps as a movie poster. Grable was a shell fired from an M65 Atomic Cannon and the W9 nuclear artillery shell was itself a modified antiaircraft gun."

Atomic Annie fired 280mm shells. There were never any 280mm AA shells, and the design of Atomic Annie itself was based on German railroad guns, not an AA gun. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:49, 28 November 2011 (CST)

:You're misreading. The W9 round ''itself'' is a modified antiaircraft gun which fires one subcritical mass at the other. The M65 is a gun which fires a gun which is a bomb. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:32, 28 November 2011 (CST)
::If it's just a gun-type fission device, can you clarify that? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:35, 28 November 2011 (CST)
:::Just did that before reading. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:41, 28 November 2011 (CST)
::::Thanks. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:47, 28 November 2011 (CST)

How come the page is locked anyway? --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 10:55, 28 November 2011 (CST)
:Haven't checked the edit history so I might be wrong, but my guess is too many people being dicks toward the game just because it's extremely popular and therefore bashing it everywhere it's brought up is the cool thing to do. [[User:Kadorhal|Kadorhal]] 21:39, 15 January 2012 (CST)

Speaking of which, what do you guys think of changing one of the captions for the Mk 14 Mod 1 to this (italics are my addition):
[[Image:MW3-Mk14-4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|"Soap" MacTavish holds his own Mk 14 Mod 1 EBR as Yuri wonders why he's the odd one out. ''Presumably the developers intended for Yuri to also use a Mod 1, but for whatever reason, it appears as a Mod 0 when dropped.'']]
:That's my assumption, at least, but I don't know for sure (especially since it ''does'' use the old Mod 1 model in another mission). What do you think?

:Oh and also, in the second sentence under Mk 14 Mod 1, there's an extraneous "the" in front of ''MW2'''s name. [[User:Kadorhal|Kadorhal]] 23:43, 14 February 2012 (CST)

::Strikes me that if anything it would be the other way around. The most likely answer is that the Mod 1 model was ganked from MW2 as a placeholder, yet again.

[[Image:Pc_wallpaper_04_1024x768.png|thumb|none|600px|Promotional art of Soap from MW2; scope has flared eyepiece, no notched rings to the rear, stepped objective. Note also long rail covers on the handguard.]]
[[Image:MW3-Mk14Mod1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mod 1 model; same old scope and rail covers, plus the same rather chunky bipod hinge.]]
[[Image:MW3-Mk14-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MW3 scope model; note notched rings, shorter flared eyepiece, flared objective.]]
[[Image:MW3-Mk14Mod0-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mod 0 model; new, MW3-style scope, shorter rail covers and different handguard, gripped magazine base (looks like a Magpul with no loop) not present on the MW2 model.]]

Then they decided to go for a Mod 0 instead. And, as with a load of other weapons, they didn't bother to change some of the models that were actually in the game. The Mod 0 in "Goalpost" uses a variant MW3 scope model when you're holding it, but the MW2 world model when you drop it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:43, 15 February 2012 (CST)

== M4A1 ==

A quick query about the M4A1 used in the game, as you may be able to see in the pictures below the M4 is equipped with a rail riser, including when using the hybrid sight.

[[File:MW3-M4-1.jpg|600px]]

[[File:MW3-M4-2.jpg|600px]]

The EOTech XPS-3 part of the hybrid sight is situated on the lower rail whilst the magnifier is on the rail riser. Wouldn't this mess up the alignment between the two? Doesn't really look right to me but would like anyone else's input. --[[User:Noble.6|Noble.6]] 15:50, 28 November 2011 (CST)

:[[Image:MW3-M4-5.jpg|600px]]

:If you zoom in and look carefully there's a silver plate between the base of the XPS-3 and the rail which raises it up to the same level as the riser. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 16:22, 28 November 2011 (CST)

::Ah, thanks. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to though... --[[User:Noble.6|Noble.6]] 16:48, 28 November 2011 (CST)

:::It's most likely that they designed the rifle before they decided to use this sight with it. A bit like how they just stuffed the RSASS into "Blood Brothers" even though the level was blatantly designed for the Barrett. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 16:52, 28 November 2011 (CST)

== "USP Tactical" ==

I would just like to point out that the supposed USP Tactical isn't one; it still has the regular USP's fixed iron sights for one thing. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 05:33, 2 December 2011 (CST)

:And has markings on it saying "USP Tactical," plus an extended barrel. It's a USP Tactical with the wrong iron sights. This is hardly impossible, since the Tactical uses the same dovetails as the standard USP slide so there's no reason you couldn't swap irons.

:[[Image:Whatdoesthissay.jpg]] [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:01, 2 December 2011 (CST)

So? Every other USP in the series had said extended barrel, but we didn't call them Tacs. Plus it's not like they've ever used correct trades before. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 06:27, 2 December 2011 (CST)

:Ok, let me just copy-paste what I said ''last'' time this came up, adding the CoD4 USP since I have that too now:

:Here's an angle-for-angle comparison of the player models:
:[[Image:MW1-USP-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Standard USP in ''CoD4''. ''Barely visible'' barrel, slide says "(HK logo or something like it) USP .45 Auto." This is a USP 45.]]
:[[Image:MW3-Nottactical.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Standard USP from ''MW2'' in ''MW3''. Slide wording "(front cocking serration) USP .45 Auto." Has ''very slightly'' visible projecting barrel. This is a USP 45.]]
:[[Image:MW3-USPTac-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|USP Tactical model. Slide says "USP Tactical .45 Auto," has ''highly'' visible (and therefore longer) projecting barrel. This is a USP Tactical.]]
:The new one has a longer barrel and correctly calls itself a USP Tactical on the slide, while the original is just a malformed USP.
:Let me just break this down:
:*Someone decided they needed a new USP model.
:*They made a new USP model which has features correct for a Tactical, and slide engraving saying it's a Tactical.
:*They decided to use the old MW2 USP model as well for no good reason.
:*They decided to call both the USP 45, also for no good reason.
:Hence, there are two gun models, the old mutant USP and the new Tactical. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:59, 23 November 2011 (CST)

:I imagine, given the shorter extended barrel, the LAM in the first game and the possibly recycled from dev model rear sights in the second, the CoD4 / MW2 USP was originally going to be a Mark 23, and they kept the old barrel on the model for some reason. This new one's is in proportion for a USP Tac, and it ''says'' it's a USP Tac on the slide (which is a distinguishing feature of a USP Tac, after all). This is enough to upgrade it from mistake to intent, and the sights aren't impossible to swap between models and so aren't distinctive of the non-Tac model. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:01, 2 December 2011 (CST)

::Just beat me to it. Was going to say that the rear sight and the raised part of the slide it sits on, and the amount of barrel projection was from a Mark 23 as well. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:10, 2 December 2011 (CST)

Just want to note that the suppressed USP with tactical knife in "Eye of the Storm" is also identified by name as a Tactical. It may be a side effect of the naming scheme in-game rather than actually referring to the real-world model, though; "Stronghold" gives the player a suppressed P99 with tactical knife that is also identified as "P99 Tactical". [[User:Kadorhal|Kadorhal]] 13:03, 1 August 2012 (CDT)

== "MG36" ==

This image is from the official H&K site.
[[Image:G36K-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Just ignore the buttstock, willya.]]
They list it as a G36K, even tho it has a longer barrel. Maybe H&K classifies these guns based on the handguard and vent holes. It would make sense, as the barrels are interchangeable. Thoughts? - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 16:11, 3 December 2011 (CST)
:Not sure the barrels are interchangeable, as the gas block would be in the wrong place. I suppose you could put the correspondingly longer piston on (not sure if this would work but lets assume it would) but then the piston would be exposed, with the front part of it along with the gas block sticking out the front of the handguard. It would be exposed to dirt and damage, and would look weird. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:52, 3 December 2011 (CST)
H&K makes a LMG/support gunner version of the G36 (don't remember the exact name). It looks just like your photo but as far as I know it's usually outfitted with a 100 round drum magazine instead of the normal 30 rounder. The name "MG36" is really just made up so the poor sap playing this game that knows nothing about gun would immediately associate the MG with machine gun. --[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 16:33, 3 December 2011 (CST)

:I can't really see how a weapon with a non-carbine barrel is still a carbine, personally. Though it would hardly be the first time HK's marketing spods were guilty of making things up as they go along. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 16:49, 3 December 2011 (CST)

:Wait a minute, HK's page has the disclaimer "The pictures shown may differ from the original." Isn't that an aftermarket stock, for a start? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 16:58, 3 December 2011 (CST)

::The barrel extends past the handguard by a similar amount (slightly less I think) as on a G36, but the G36 handguard is longer, meaning that this is actually an intermediate barrel between the 318mm barrel of the G36K and the 480mm barrel of the G36. I believe the origin of this variant was that it was submitted for Norwegian (I think) army trials, and it has something like a 16" barrel. It now goes by the name G36KV3 I think. The stock isn't an aftermarket one, I think it was designed by H&K for the Latvian army. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:00, 3 December 2011 (CST)
:::Did a bit more searching and found that it is a 15.4" barrel, and the variant also appears to go by G36CQB. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:04, 3 December 2011 (CST)
::::Ah, only place I'd ever seen that stock was on Airsoft gun pictures saying it was a G&P "KV style" stock. So, we're saying this is probably a 15.4" barrel G36K? I doubt this variant has existed long enough to have been in ''Far Cry'', mind, so we should probably leave that saying hybrid. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 17:16, 3 December 2011 (CST)
:::::Apparently the G36CQB was listed in the HK Defence Weapons Systems Brochure from 2004 to 2006, so it is possible that this is what the [[Far Cry]] rifle is based on. This is 2nd hand info from the HK Pro forums so might be wrong though. Have also read that it was first introduced in the late 90s for the US market, but only 100 or so were made so these are rare. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:31, 3 December 2011 (CST)
::::::This G36K, the one with the wierd aftermarket sights on a C rail and that stock, was made for one country specifically, though I forget which one. As for the carbine issue Tim, a carbine is simply a shortened version of the original, it can be any length as long as it's shorter. If it's a Carbine of a Carbine it's a Sub-Carbine. Not makin this up :) G36K = Carbine and G36C = Sub-Carbine. M4A1 = Carbine and Mk 18 Mod 0 = Sub-Carbine. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:42, 3 December 2011 (CST)
::::::Far Cry was march 2004, I wouldn't think they'd have time to stick a G36 variant that had existed for an absolute maximum of 3 months (and might not have existed at all yet) in the game. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 17:51, 3 December 2011 (CST)
:::::::All I could find was someone stating that it was in the 2004-2006 brochure, but could have appeared before this point. Like I said, the first versions of the G36CQB barrel appeared in the late 90s. It is probably more likely that they just made it up accidentally though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:54, 3 December 2011 (CST)
::::::::Ok, I'll add a note there and fix this when I get home, then. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:02, 3 December 2011 (CST)
:::::::::I have a copy of Soldier of Fortune magazine from October 2001 that says the 15.4 inch CQB barrel is an option--[[User:Shadowkungfu|Shadowkungfu]] 20:53, 3 December 2011 (CST)
::::::::::Ah, CQB ''barrel'', that's starting to make sense. So this is a CQB barrel for the G36 that they marketed for the K under the same name, even though it made the K longer and therefore only helped you CQ if the B was using it as a lance. Also, if this can be fitted to the standard G36, might it be the cause of STALKER's short-barreled G36E? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:47, 4 December 2011 (CST)
:::::::::::Could be. :| - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 07:26, 4 December 2011 (CST)
::::::::::::The G36 from STALKER is actually modelled after a SL8 converted into a G36 lookalike (can tell by the profiling at the back of the receiver with a serial number plate, the selector switch and aftermarket magazine well fitted into machined out lower receiver). As for the barrel, it looks more like a CQB than a K. The K has an open pronged flash hider (as opposed to the birdcage shown) which would protrude past the handguard on a full size G36 but none of the barrel itself would be visible. I'm going to copy this whole discussion over onto the [[Talk:Heckler & Koch G36|G36 talk page]], as I think it has reached the point that it is more relevant there than here. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:10, 4 December 2011 (CST)

Sorry I was out of this for so long guys. As far as I remember, the G36 uses a quick-change barrel system (eventually used the the ACR and SCAR). You could go from CQB barrel to MG barrel at the flip of a tab and twist of the barrel. H&K figured out over time that they could simply market the same gun with different barrels and people would pay for two guns instead of one and a second barrel. Yes, the people at H&K are some of the biggest jerks out there. --[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 14:54, 4 December 2011 (CST)

:Or maybe you only wanted a full length G36 with a shorter barrel. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:16, 4 December 2011 (CST)

The G36K pictured above is a G36KV of the Latvian armed forces. They use longer barrels (15 or so inches, I believe) on them than factory G36Ks. Here you can see one in A-Stan [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/mpnet/hires_090318-A-1211m-002a.jpg]. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 08:57, 20 December 2011 (CST)

==Oakley Gloves==
[[File:RSASS MW3 being loaded.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The black (Oakley?) gloves in question. Notice the great detailing in the gloves' pads and stitching by the MW3 engine.]]
Slightly irrelevant from the realm of guns, but I know that Delta Force members use the tan Oakley Factory Pilot gloves, but what are the ones that Soap and Yuri use during their Prague raid? I would suppose they're just the black ones, but could someone please verify? --''[[User:Blemo|'''B''''''le''''''mo''']] [[Image:Progress Wheel.gif]] [[user talk:Blemo|'''TALK''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Blemo|'''CONTRIBUTIONS''']] • [[Special:Emailuser/Blemo|'''EMAIL''']] • '''MESSAGE'''''
:I don't think they are actually Oakley gloves. Rather than the hollow "O" that is on the first section of the finger of genuine Oakley gloves, these appear to have a plain solid stud, which you tend to find on cheaper Oakley rip-off gloves, so imagine that is what the actual gloves were modelled off of. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 05:23, 20 December 2011 (CST)

I thought everyone seemed to have SIs? (or were supposed to, keeping in mind the knockoff point above) [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 08:19, 20 December 2011 (CST)

During the Prague missions as well as Stronghold and Down The Rabbit Hole Yuri wears black Oakley Factory Pilot gloves. As far as his other missions where the gloves have the missing fingertips, they could just be a similar-looking generic model. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 02:24, 2 January 2012 (CST)

== More guns ==

In MP on unlockable embelms and titles: a Bereta 92 Inox, slide of a 1911type gun, flintlock pistol + Mk2 grenade on achivment "Strike!". These needs to be added to page - Paul
:+ kind of unrelated to this but it'd be noted that the ump STILL hold 32 bullets by default, and the CM901 holds 30 bullets, but I think it is suposed to be the .308 cal variant which holds only 20. - Paul
: in SP theres a MP5 w/ slimline forearm and w/o magrelease paddle on a sign during the levl with the sandstorm. -Paul
: On "Black Tuesday", the US troops that show up with the Stryker have M1911s holstered on the front of their tactical vests.--[[User:James Woods|James Woods]] 00:42, 2 January 2012 (CST)

Some more guns are a Sig in Price's leg holster in 'Stronghold', as well as another gun I couldn't identitfy in 'Blood Brothers', in another one of Price's holster. It looked liked Grigg's Springfield from COD 4, except w/ textures looking like they were pulled from Half-life. -= [[User:Taedeezy|Taedeezy]] 4:10, 7 January 2012 (MST)

:I'll be going through again to get these soonish. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:18, 23 January 2012 (CST)
::Also, according to the COD wiki there is a usable "M9" (92SB) on the level Down the Rabbit Hole. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 11:37, 23 January 2012 (CST)
:::Listed with [citation needed], ie it's some kid mistaking the USP for an M9. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:39, 23 January 2012 (CST)
::Price has a holstered USP in Stronghold, not a SIG. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 17:59, 1 February 2012 (CST)

== Type-95 is a 97 ==

When I played the game again, I noticed the Type 95 doesn't reload the same way and the mag looks like a 5.56 mag. And when it reloads, it inserts the mag instead of the hook style. And the world game model and the menu model is exactly like a 97. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:43, 22 January 2012 (CST)

==Soap's P99==

I just played through the PS3 version of the game again. It appears as though Soap draws a P99 in "Blood Brothers" while Price is carrying him to the safehouse. Can anyone else confirm this?-Glamdring

:Yes, he does. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 16:20, 1 February 2012 (CST)

== MP7 Mag ==

I just noticed that the MP7's extended mag baseplate (it's not technically the base of the mag, but what else would you call it?) is actually stuck to the gun instead of the magazine itself. It's really obvious in the second screenshot in the MP7 entry. Can anyone confirm this and possibly add it to the page? --[[User:Don Bigles|Don Bigles]] 05:16, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Ah, someone added it. Thanks. --[[User:Don Bigles|Don Bigles]] 05:35, 4 February 2012 (CST)

I can't find a JPG pic which the upload page says i need, so i can't show, but it seems the MP7 reloads with empty magazines (Google "Modern Warfare 3 MP7 Reload" on Google Images), is this worth adding?--[[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] 07:06, 8 February 2012 (CST)

:It's not empty, it's solid. I'll add a pic later. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:54, 15 February 2012 (CST)

== Always Wondered ==

Why, in games such as this, are correct weapons names (Desert Eagle Mark XIX, Brügger & Thomet MP-9) used but in others they are called the "Falcon 357" or generic names like "Sniper Rifle"? Anyone? Bueller? [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 09:49, 4 February 2012 (CST)

I guess it's because Activision can afford to cover the copyright costs, name infringement isn't free.

:Yeah, it's a trademark issue. Most companies haven't trademarked the distinctive shape of their weapons (though Glock and HK have), but they have the names, and it's much easier to prove infringement on a name than on a shape anyway. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:45, 5 February 2012 (CST)

Activision has more money. Other game companies don't. wonder how much money it cost them for those huge logos like remington and EOTech?--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 22:29, 5 February 2012 (CST)
:I assumed in the logo cases it was the other way round, with the firearms companies paying Activision for the product placement. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 03:42, 6 February 2012 (CST)

::It's funny when big-name firearms companies resort to product placement. Do they really expect the military officials to play such kind of games? Or does America nowadays allow the sales of military-grade firearms (like those Remington rifles) to civilian population? --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 02:20, 14 February 2012 (CST)

::If you have the money and the patience to jump through the Federal hoops and live in a state that allows the firearms, you can have whatever. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 05:37, 14 February 2012 (CST)

:::I doubt you could get a Remington ACR or an R11 RSASS at all as they are Remington Defence weapons and not sold to civilians, only to military and law enforcement. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 05:54, 14 February 2012 (CST)

::::Maybe they're trying to get to police procurement guys via their kid sons. "Come on dad, it'd be ''really'' cool if you bought this one!" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:31, 14 February 2012 (CST)

:::::(*Slap*) "What have I told you about playing Call of Duty?! It's an unrealistic portrayal of firearms, now get back on the computer and play more America's Army!" (Disclaimer: This was merely for comedic purposes, IMFDB does *not* condone child abuse) [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 14:50, 26 February 2012 (CST)

::::::(*Slap*) "What have I told you about playing America's Army?! The son of a Marine would never play this game, now get back on the computer and check if [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Days_in_Fallujah Six Days in Fallujah] is already out!" (Disclaimer: This was merely for comedic purposes, Marines and Soldiers are known for not liking being indistinguished) --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 01:46, 27 February 2012 (CST)

:::::::When did I indistinguish Soldiers and Marines? And sadly I doubt we'll be seeing Six Days on shelves any time soon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 03:24, 27 February 2012 (CST)

::::::::I didn't really comment in regards to that post, just needed something, for comedic purposes :)
::::::::And indeed, the lack of any progress on game since 2010 is disappointing :\ --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 07:17, 27 February 2012 (CST)

:::::::::Believe me, I've been looking forward to Six Days for a while. The game is supposedly finished and ready to ship, but no publisher seems to have the balls to distribute it. It could become the ''Thrill Kill'' of shooter games (i.e., the "best fighting game you've never played", as it's so frequently referred to as). Funny how almost all of the criticism for it (as well as Medal of Honor 2010) came mostly from foreign entities. Yeah, the British and the Danish "disagree" with two games that revolve around the ''US'' military, but no one over there seems to have any problems with the SAS-starring Modern Warfare series. Kind of bizarre how that works out, huh? ;) [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 18:51, 27 February 2012 (CST)

::::::::::Medal of Honor was banned from selling in US Military Bases, wasn't it? But yes, the highly vocal boycotting of these 2 games, and not CoD: MWs, by British is really suspicious and looks more like propaganda stuff...
::::::::::Should Atomic Games have gone indie with the game, the lack of publisher wouldn't be an obstacle :\ --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 02:18, 28 February 2012 (CST)
:::::::::::I thought all the shit with Medal of Honor was because it let people play as a faction explicitly named as the Taliban until EA caved under pressure and changed it. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 04:22, 28 February 2012 (CST)
::::::::::::That was the seed that the criticism tree sprouted from, yes. I still think it's just the fact that the US military takes center stage in them instead of second fiddle like in CoD, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:38, 20 July 2012 (CDT)

== UMP.45 Manufacturer ==

Did anyone else notice that while MW2's UMP was manufactured by Heckler & Koch in Sterling, Virginia, MW3's model was made by the infamous "Gunnery Gun Co."? Just putting it out there, in the event that an admin wants to add some smarmy remark (Best damn parts of the article...)
:Which is totally inaccurate, since everyone knows UMPs are made by Pooder & Chernoosky like the G36. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:58, 25 March 2012 (CDT)

Really? I could've swore the UMP and the G36 came from Hitler & Krotch in Nazi-Land, Europe.

== Overkill perk icon ==

Since the ''Call of Duty 4'' and ''World at War'' pages refer to the weapons present in their Overkill icons, I figure we should do so for this game as well. [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120120134554/callofduty/images/1/1e/Overkill_perk_MW3.png What's this look like to you guys?] My best guess is some form of AK without a magazine, though since there doesn't seem to be a release lever, I'd rather have someone else look at it to make sure. [[User:Kadorhal|Kadorhal]] 17:48, 12 May 2012 (CDT)
It really is impossible to tell for sure. It's just to vague. There are no markings whatsoever. [[User:Barrett50|Barrett50]] 15:05, 6 August 2012

== FAD three round burst ==

Unless I'm somehow doing something really wrong, I'm pretty sure the FAD doesn't have a three round burst when the fire button is tapped. [[User:Animalmenace|Animalmenace]]
:<strike>If there even is a three-round burst on the gun, it could just be a multiplayer thing - I didn't get it to do that either, but I only tested the SP version.</strike> Alright, apparently Survival mode uses the multiplayer versions of guns. It still was not firing in bursts when I tapped the trigger. [[User:Kadorhal|Kadorhal]] 16:34, 15 July 2012 (CDT)

==M249==
can a mod add this? well at least phrase it in?
the configuration that this m249 have, doen't make it an FN minimi? which the M249 based on, and when clicked, redirected to Fn minimi.
: [[Call_of_Duty:_Modern_Warfare_3#M249_Para_SAW]] [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:40, 28 June 2012 (CDT)

== Special Ops/Survival weapons stats + Beretta 92SB in campaign ==

At the start of the pages it says that "Special Ops mode and Survival use the singleplayer weapon stats and abilities unless otherwise noted". Actually it's only the case for the Special Ops mode, while the Survival mode uses the multiplayer weapons stats and abilities, the exceptions being the weapons bought from the "equipment" armory (such as the riot shield, C4, grenades, etc.)

Also, information about the Beretta 92SB (called M9 in-game) from MW1 and MW2 should be added, as this handgun can rarely be found in the mission "Goalpost" (you can see that in some videos in youtube)--[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] 14:15, 2 August 2012 (CDT)
:The reference to sniper rifles having dual sights shouldn't really be there, either - that's a one-time thing on the RSASS from "Eye of the Storm" and doesn't show up anywhere else. [[User:Kadorhal|Kadorhal]] 17:38, 2 August 2012 (CDT)

== Berett 92SB ==

It is useable in the mission "Goalpost". Delta Force operators will draw the 92SB after running out of ammo with their primary weapon. Dead operators will sometimes drop the Beretta. It is a recycled MW2 M9, and uses the same firing sound. - [[User:1morey]] August 6, 2012 5:30 PM (EST)
:I'll take a look and get a shot if I can find one. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:19, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
::Maybe it will be hard to find one in Goalpost, so if you can't take screenshots of it in this level, we can still add another point: in the downloadable special ops mission "Special Delivery", the wounded soldier at the end holds a 92SB. Also, maybe we should add info about the new "Starstreak" launcher in the FIM-92A Stinger section (the Starstreak weapon uses the same model as the Stinger) --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] 14:30, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

== M16A4 with optics ==

The M16A4 still has the front sight/gas block removed when aftermarket optics are added, just like in the last two games. Figured that'd be worth a mention. [[User:Kadorhal|Kadorhal]] 22:03, 27 August 2012 (CDT)
:I just took another look; you can see a low-profile gas block on the M4 when reloading the M203, but the M16 player model is too long to really tell if there's something there or not. I'll take a look at one on the ground later. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:30, 27 August 2012 (CDT)
::Took a look at it myself while testing out the Terminal port from ''MW2'' in Survival. No front sight as usual with alternate optics, but at the same time [http://images.wikia.com/callofduty/images/1/10/Weapon_m16a4_large.png the Create-a-Class image for the gun] seems to have the front sight ''within'' the handguard, so there could be a low-profile gas block within it. That or whoever made the Create-a-Class image doesn't know AR-15's. [[User:Kadorhal|Kadorhal]] 21:41, 28 August 2012 (CDT)
:::Well, ''that's'' sad. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:05, 29 August 2012 (CDT)
::::I'd say that's pretty much certain since the fire selector is set to "look I just broke the fire selector." [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:39, 29 August 2012 (CDT)
:::::That's the most dangerous and efficient firing mode ever fielded to the operators. It always takes 'the enemy' by surprise.--[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] 03:28, 29 August 2012 (CDT)

== QBZ-97 3-round burst ==

In the "QBZ-97" section it is stated that the 3-round burst mode is incorrect for this weapon. This fire mode is actually available on the QBZ-97A variant (an improved export model of the QBZ-97), so probably this is the variant featured in-game (if it is not, someone should still mention in the page that the 3-rd burst exists for the QBZ-97A variant) --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 09:00, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

== "AK-47" Furniture ==

I might be somewhat late for the party, but if it is worth noting, I'd say that AK is fitted with a handguard similar to Midwest Industries' one (with rail covers) and its scope mount resembles Belarusian PB-02.

== Is the AA-12 the full scale version? ==

The create-a-class image has a shorter barrel and I know you can get a short-barrelled version. Can someone compare the picture on the page with the c-a-c image and see if it's still right.

Talk:Person of Interest - Season 1

2012-09-25T21:27:45Z

Sandymon:

Please help ID these revolver -- 18:47, 3 September 2012 (CDT)

[[File:POI showdown.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Zambrano aiming Fusco's revolver sidearm at Fusco and Carter.]]

Has anyone else noticed that the guns where it shows the view down the scope are both fitted with some sort of PSO-style reticle. The Barrett has one and the SSG 3000 has part of one. Just sayin'