Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games - User contributions [en]

Talk:Jurassic Park III

2012-03-19T01:23:21Z

SAMBAMA: /* Just a Theory */

==Moved from page==

-I'm not gun genius, but how hard would it be to hit a huge dinosaur with a 20mm sniper rifle? and if you did, a round that big (and that pack a small boom) would cause damage, no?
::You make a good point. Some merc he is if he can't hit a Spinosaurus with that thing. But if he did hit it and kill it, it would be a 15 minute movie and thus serve no point to exist. In real life, the guys with the guns survive when facing dinosaurs, but in Hollywood, all you need to do is run fast. >:(. I wish he had killed the Spino, T-rex is the coolest and the Spino was a dumb attempt at topping it. Thanks a lot Jack Horner. (I used to be a dino-nut, in case no one knew) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::I agree, T-rex for the win man! But really, you saw what the rifle did to a light aircraft in the movie, so what would it do to a Spino? Anyhow, you hear him fire it like 4 times, in awfully rapid succesion. I'm thinking that firing a 20mm rifle that fast might hurt one's shoulder....
::::Fuck the spino, fuck it in its ear.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Fucking A Right Mother Fucker! Fuck the fucking fucker.-SomeGuy

:::::I was disappointed that they made the Spinosaurus into the main villain for this movie, but not quite sure I have '''that''' hostile a reaction to it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::It's hard to use any firearm effectively in a recent Spielberg movie, because guns are bad and icky. See also nasty gun-haver Muldoon dying in the original (in the book he survived), the two "big" guns in II never being fired (Roland's .600 nitro and Eddy's Lindstradt), one getting the more or less innocent user eaten horribly more or less just because he made a big deal about having a nice gun, the field full of heavily armed mercs in II getting killed while the unarmed civilians make it through without a scratch...And ET, of course. Can't let people think Federal agents would posess actual weaponry. He's fallen a long way since Harrison Ford remembered he'd bought a gun to a swordfight. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 07:51, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:::Indeed man, these movies make you wonder why they bother having guns in them. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

: Well the 'subtle' thing throughout most big Hollywood films for quite some time now is that all guns are inherently evil and bad EXCEPT when used by a hero who is very handsome and/or built like a tank, using a gun with which he never misses, never jams and has infinite ammo, heh. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:23, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

==Spinosaurus WAS the king of dinosaurs==
You guys are forgetting that we ''erroneously'' thought that the T-Rex was the king of the carnivores, but it wasn't. The ONLY EXISTING skeleton of a Spinosaurus (which was WAY bigger than any T-Rex) for decades was in the National Museum of Natural History ... in Nazi Germany BEFORE World War Two. It was obliterated (along with other priceless archeological treasures) by American and British bombing raids. So only recently archeologists unearthed other Spinosaurus bones, it can RIGHTFULLY take it's place as the dinosaur that kicked T-Rex's ass. So we're wrong. Not history. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I would have to disagree with you this time, MPM2008, even though Spinosaurus was bigger then Tyrannosaurus Rex, it would still have a better chance at losing the fight. Tyrannosaurus Rex had a pretty good size brain cavity, was stocky and muscular, and most of all, had one of the greatest bite forces of any land animal ever to live on this planet, it's jaw was capable of cutting through flesh, and crushing bone. So chances are, once the T.Rex bit down on the Spino's neck, it would have crushed it's neck, killng or atleast paralzying it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 07:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

:I haven't paid much attention to paleontology for about 10 years now, but didn't Spinosaurus have fairly fragile jaws and teeth? My understanding is that it ate lots of fish when it wasn't scavenging.

:As far as T-Rex goes, whether or not it was a predator is (I understand) still debatable, but it was certainly FAR better equipped to fight in hand-to-hand combat than a Spinosaurus. The fact that the Spinosaurus might have had an extra couple of meters length seems irrelevent; it would be like a basketball player fighting a professional wrestler.

:BTW, I think it's cool that so many other IMFDB members are into dinosaurs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:You are right, MT2008, Spinosaurus had small hollow teeth, while T.Rex had serrated teeth the size of bananas. So chances are that the Spino's teeth would have cracked when it tried to break the T. Rex's neck. I also think that T.Rex was a hunter since many paleontologists seem to have found dinosaurs bones with healed Tyrannosaurus bite marks on them, but the debate still goes on. I'm also glad to see that other IMFDB members are intersted in Dinosaurs as well, it's one of my other interests besides firearms. I enjoy watching dino-documentaries (Walking With Dinosaurs, etc) as much as I do movies, dinosaurs always interested me since I was small.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:21, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

::::Well, I did not know that. I had no idea we had master Paleontologists here ;) I just brought up this note, because of all the Spino-Hate and because I saw a documentary about all of the lost treasures that were destroyed by Allied Bombing in World War II, the ONLY Spinosaurus skeleton (and all the notes) being one of the casualties of the bombings over Germany. I'm not going to argue anything since I must defer to men who are far greater 'experts' than myself. :) I was far more into 'dinosaurs' when I was a kid. I think you grow out of dinosaurs when you *cough* become a man ...uh, I mean get OLDER... ;) LOL! MPM2008

a)the t-rex had pissy little arms which were useless.
b)the spinosaurus had very strong forearms.
c)both were dwarfed by the giganotosaurus which lived in south america
::I too was a dino-nut as a younger kid, but as MPM said, it fades usually. From what I read, the Giganotosaurus was taller and longer, but was much weaker and poorly built. The T-rex was a big bulky predator, while the Spinosaurus was a fish eater and scavenger. While the Spino had bigger arms than the T-rex, the T-rex had a very powerful mouth that more than made up for it (it was the size of a refrigerator). And while a spinosaurus skeleton destroyed during WWII was found to be very large, normal spinos aren't bigger than the T-rex. Just longer (T-rex being ~40ft and Spinos being ~60ft). So I believe the T-rex still deserves the rightful place as the Terrible Lizard King! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Fun fact, today we know that while in the Jurassic Park films the raptors were six feet tall and called "Velociraptors", they actually mixed up the species. The dinosaur shown as the velociraptor in the series are in fact Deinonychus. The Velociraptor is the smaller 3ft dino. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

I still think the T-Rex was a carnivore. I mean I can't imagine a T-Rex being a lazy couch potato and just going after what was already dead. Seems like Scientists like to (pardon my french) pussify things. I mean when JP 1 was being filmed Deinonychus was originally a Velociraptor subspecies. But then a few months after the movie came out, Paleotologists renamed it to what it is now known as today. And don't get me started on feathers, I mean (again, pardon my french), but nothing screams pussy like a dinosaur covered in feathers. But I did think Spino was a neat addition. I mean it is a 60+ foot long dino with the face of a crododile. That's K.A. The only thing that I wish in ANY action movie, is the enemies should at least actually attempt to fire their weapons accurately. I mean take out those mercs from II and III and replace them with the Ultranationalists and Wehrmmacht (From WaW and CoD4) and set the difficulty to Veteran, let's see what those raptors got to say about that...lol. That, or put in sharpshooters ala Tom Selleck in Quigley Down Under. He shot a man in the back of the head while speeding down the desert in a buckboard (From a distance of 700+ yards), and his shooting eye was black and blue. [[User:1morey|1morey]] 05:49, 5 March 2011 (MSK)

Forget putting fictional characters. Put any of us with a gun and even if our aim sucks, at close range even when the dino is about to open wide, full auto from an assault rifle would take it down. Several shotgun blasts would at least make it think twice. Since these guys are most likely not accustomed to the sound of a gunshot, the noise alone would scare them away. Seriously, the Marines that showed up would have extincted all the dinos on the island. You tell a US Marine that there's dinosaurs on an island, you bet we're going to hear about a bunch of trigger happy guys and I'd join them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:31, 5 March 2011 (MSK)

:Oh you so silly! - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 22:23, 5 July 2011 (CDT)

==Mossberg 500 Cruiser==
That really sucks that Nash didn't use his Mossberg 500 Cruiser. He could have took it out from his back and injure the Spino instead of crawling for cover. - (Kenny99)[[Special:Contributions/98.234.123.141|98.234.123.141]] 19:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:Cause shotgun pellets would injure such a large dinosaur..... [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 18:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Because it would knock a Raptor on its ass-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Uh, no, it wouldn't. :\ [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 22:21, 5 July 2011 (CDT)
:::Well, if you're talking a real 33-pound raptor it would, not so much the ones in the movie. But then you can make them go away by making random noises through a cast, so you wouldn't need a shotgun anyway. God, that scene was so stupid. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:28, 5 July 2011 (CDT)

==Just a Theory==
I think I know why Cooper's 20mm rounds didn't harm the Spino. There was a second Spino and Cooper killed it. Little did he know that the Spino he killed was the First Spino's mate and he got pissed off. What do you guys think?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 11:27, 5 July 2011 (CDT)

:I think even that is better than the actual reason. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:31, 5 July 2011 (CDT)

Here is my theory: Why don't you try to stand still long enough with a .50 caliber sniper rifle, and try to hit a 50 foot dinosaur as it is running towards you. I can see why he missed. -[[User:1morey]] August 26, 2011, 8:51 PM (EST)

:Yup, that makes sense too. :D - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 21:04, 23 August 2011 (CDT)

Here's my counter theory by repeating what you just said. Stand still with a 50 cal pointed at a really really HUGE object that is running towards you and it's head is ever getting closer. Seriously, it's fear that's why they missed, otherwise, one shot from the 50 would have ended it right there. That thing is bigger than a tank. You would have a hard time missing [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:44, 23 August 2011 (CDT)

==Question===

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what sort of Tac Vest Udesky was wearing?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 20:23, 18 March 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Justified

2011-12-12T23:25:28Z

SAMBAMA: /* Raylen's Glock */

==Screencapping==
Does anybody plan on screencaping this? I got the dvds in my Netflix queue. But if someone has purchased the series it would be a lot easier for them. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

this is a realy good show and i would like to give it a proper page so if any one is interested drop me a line on the talk page on my user page. --[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

==Commander or Officers size 1911?==
So what gun does Raylin use to shoot Boyd in the chest with?
:He did a brass check on it in the motel room. It looked like a Commander model. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:41, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
::I watched the scene again, it's an Officers size. Could be a Kimber. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

==Miami gun==
This screen-cap of the gun Raylin uses at the table in Miami at the start of the episode does NOT look like a SIG Sauer P226. It has large square front end, the possibly after-market spring guide rod is stainless and rather large hex; the grip flares above the hand. Other details are a little hard to distinguish, but I think the ID for this prop gun is still unknown. Ideas?
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3390/snapshot20100318023606.png
--[[Special:Contributions/24.8.253.46|24.8.253.46]] 22:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see double stack bulges either. I'm going to covert that pic to JPEG and put it on the main page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:JT-SIG.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
::Here is the pic converted. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

:::This doesn't look like a real SIG to me; it looks like one of the SIG [["Non Guns"]]:

:::[[Image:SIGnon-gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG-Sauer Non Gun]]

:::-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Perfect! Here's an animated image I took off the ep. It clearly shows that it's a non-gun. That's why it looks kind of funny, a little like a Glock, some of the parts don't match, and it's way too simplified. Classic non-gun. Given that I think we're fine leaving it as a Sig Sauer P226. And we have another image to add to the non-gun page.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6461/justifiednongun.gif
--[[Special:Contributions/24.8.253.46|24.8.253.46]] 02:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::EXCELLENT! Yes, that tell tale "poof" of the flame and the smoke lacks the 'blast' of a real blank. It's definitely an ISS non-gun. Just remember to list it on the NON gun page as well as the actor page (along with this page). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

:::''Given that I think we're fine leaving it as a Sig Sauer P226.''

:::Nope, if it's a Non Gun, then it should be designated as such, and not as a SIG P226. We are trying to be an accurate as possible. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

well first , at the end of "fire in the hole" , at the end he says " a SIG P two twenty six" simmons 8492

As a gun lover and collector for many years, I think I'll chime in with my .02cents the gun appears to be a sig p6 which would be a modern p226 just the single stack earlier version, I highly disbelieve is to be a "non gun' as there is no separation in slide as the image above shows, guide rods are often changed, as I have changed the ones in my carry sig as well.

If you watch the scene it is very very obviously a non gun. There is no movement from the slide and it has the little puff of smoke the non guns do. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:18, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

==The Promo Gun==
I'm not sure if this related to the topic above but, on the Promo shot for the show, show on the original page on this site, the Sig that he is aiming has quite a large bore aperture. Considering this penchant for larger caliber Automatics, I think it could possibly be a Sig p220 in .45 ACP. Thoughts anyone?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 17:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

which trailer?.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

On the main article for this site. It is possibly the lens that was used.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 03:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

==End of first episode==
Seriously? They killed the main antagonist in the first episode, now what?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:21, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

He didn't fucking die dude. Raylen just wounded him instead of killing him instantly. He'll be back.-ArmoredMason619

He was alive when they put him in the ambulance and he is on the next episode.-Spades of Columbia

But he took a .45 slug and a load of buckshot to the chest! I bet next episode he's going to be perfectly fine (stupid television)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

She missed, no buckshot to the chest. The have already shown he's in the hurt box but alive. FX tends to be on the level with violence.

He wasn't perfectly fine the next episode. He was in a hospital bed with little movement possible and a button where he can control pain meds. He isn't fine. And just because he was shot with a .45 in the chest doesn't mean much if Raylan didn't hit his heart or lungs. But it did knock the guy down and out of the fight. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 17:46, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Givens shot Boyd centermass, so it's understood from the dialogue of the other characters that Givens missed the heart on purpose out of some sense of loyalty to Boyd. And if you would pay close enough attention to the dialogue and not just the action, many of these simple questions are answered.

He Says , adn i quote "at glenco , didnt you teach those recruts to aim for the heart?" just the fact that Raylan pulled a one handed pull,and was able to miss intentionaly is a sign of intence training.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]
:On the dvd commentary, the creators said Boyd was supposed to die. He tested well and when the series got picked up, they brought him back. The scene of him being loaded into the ambulance was added after it was picked up. You could also argue, since Givens had to fire from the hip he couldn't his mark as well.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

:i like that they kept byod alive. hes a good oposite to raylan. but he was in the hospital for a while, he doesnt get released til the forth or fifth episode. enough tim to heal.--[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

==Glock==
I believe that Raylen is carrying a glock 22 and a glock 27 in the second episode. He even makes a reference to The Fugative as he is a US Marshal. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

I have yet to get a good enough look at what Type/style/Brand of holster Raylin draws from. Can anyone identify the holster or at least get a good picture of it? [[Spades of Columbia]]

The holster appears to be a Bianchi 59 Special Agent Holster.

In S1.Ep.10 Raylen tells the judge the he carries a .45 Glock. Wouldn't that make it a 21?
:Just because that's what he says in the show doesn't make it so. The muzzle is what most use to determine what type of Glock, if there isn't a good view of the slide. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but he's saying its a .45 Glock. Now, it could be a G21 or a G37 if it's chambered in .45 GAP -burgershot621

Yeah...because it would be completely normal for a Southern Marshal to carry a .45gap, it would be a ACP if anything. [[Spades Of Columbia]]

In the episode, Raylen states he is carrying a .45 caliber glock. If it were a .45 GAP, he would say GAP. The .45 GAP is farely new, so it is understood that the character is carrying a .45 ACP, seeing as how the majority of the viewers may not be gun hounds like ourselves.-Mr. Peapobdy

Someone has now added the Glock 31 to the page. I'm starting to thing Glock sponsored this show just to advertize their product line.

Alot of the glocks on this page are speculative. For example just because a character on the show verbally says he's using a 45 doesnt mean he is using a real life Glock 21, he might say 45 but is filmed with a glock 17 or 19. Also just because it looks like a .357 sig cartridge doesnt mean its a Model 31 or 32, it might mean that he is using a model 22 with a necked and crimped blank round. They can also use the same gun in multiply seens with diffrent people...for all we know right now they can be passing the same Glock 17 and 26 to all the characters and call them diffrent calibers. [[Spades of Columbia]]

I would have thought an Old School Marshall Southern boy like Givens would use something different to a Glock like a 1911 or even a revolver. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:40, 22 April 2011 (CDT)

==Kentucky==
: As a former resident of Kentucky, I find Raylin's remarks about having to go back to KY hilarious. It is clearly obvious that he doesn't want to be there, and if you've ever had to live there you'll know exactly why-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think everyone feels that way about one's home state. Besides, there're bad places almost everywhere. Ever been to the backwoods of Florida? It's just like this show.--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 04:51, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Don't see why he complains so much. I've lived in Kentucky my whole life. I love this place.

==Bulletville==
: Though you'll only see it for a glimpse, it seems as though Ava is using a USPc near the end of the episode, in the cabin. Perhaps Raylan switched his BUG, or just a pick up. Just an added note. [[GWHYSOW]]

I'm not sure where the USP came from, I think Raylan disarmed Bo's thug of it.
Other Weapons were the Revolver & Sniper Rifle used by Boyd. Two other badguys used AK rifles.

I believe the USP came from Bo's guy that was watching Ava in the cabin, then Boyd came through the back door and killed him at which point i believe Ava got the dead man's weapon. [[Spades of Columbia]]

you're right, the USP came from one of Bo's thugs. raylan finishes the fight with his back-up -burgershot621
==Moved from main page==
I hate seeing discussions on the main page do here. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
===Glock 26===
[[Image:Glock 26.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Glock 26 subcompact Pistol - 9x19mm]]
The Glock 26 is a subcompact pistol chambered for 9x19mm.

In episode 2 Marshal Givens is asked to drop both his gun and his backup. If his primary gun is a Glock 17 or 19 it would make sense that his backup is a Glock 26. Then you have mag and ammo compatibility.

-He states that his primary is a .45 Glock. No .45 Glock is this small so it stands to reason that this would be a 9mm because of Armor safety issues. There's no need for it to be a .357. However, from the size, it could easily be a Glock 33 in .357 sig or a Glock 27 in .40 S&W.

(Regarding statement above about there not being a .45 glock in that size) If you don't know anything about glocks, which you obviously don't, keep your statements off the internet. The glock 30 is a compact .45 glock. In the episode "the hammer" he states he has a .45 glock, which means he has...a .45 glock!! Pay closer attention and think before you type on a website that gun-nut cops (such as myself) visit on a daily basis.

If you seriously think that that SUB COMPACT weapon shown below is a Glock 30, then you've never held one. As a Glock 30 is a smaller COMPACT weapon. My personal belief that this is very likely the Glock 39 in .45 GAP, it's size difference being almost negligable when compared to the glock Glock 26. This show obviously seems to be marketing for glock and it stands to reason that his full size weapon is a Glock 37, also in .45 GAP. So keep your big man mouth to yourself mr "cop."--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 15:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I think that we can all agree that this anon "cop" is just some random kid who's parents don't love him enough.. also, my uncle carries a Glock 37, and off duty he carries a Glock 39.. both are chambered in .45 GAP. Oh, and really quick, "gun-nut cop," if you really were a cop you would know not to tell everyone on the internet, and you would have learned how to control your temper. -PunisherDave

You can clearly see it is not the Glock 30, if you've ever held one. The frame size alone is far too small, Glock 30 holds 10 .45 ACP, the 39 only 6 in GAP. My first statement was that no weapon is ".45 Glock is this small" and while it isn't true, I had considered the Glock 30 a outright saw that this weapon is too small. I also wouldn't carry a Glock 30 in an ankle holster, I believe that's where he kept it.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 00:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to correct myself, I don't think this is a Glock 39, I'm pretty sure that the Glock 39 comes with the newer Slide release, the weapon pictured doesn't.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 02:32, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:justified_glock26.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marshal Givens is asked to drop his backup gun in Episode 2. Looks like a Glock 26. It has the mag boot on it.]]

Could be a 36. Course I'm bad at identifing Glocks. They should show the slide at some point in every show/movie that has Glocks in it, to make the lives of us gun nuts easier. Also, he kept it in the small of his back.-AC

===Glock 21===
In S1E10, The Hammer, Raylan Givens tells a judge he is assigned to protect that he carries a ".45 caliber Glock" making his sidearm a Glock model 21.
[[Image:Glock21.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]

-Possibly a Short Frame model.

Very possibly a Glock 37 in .45 GAP.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 15:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I love how when I suggest that he might be carrying a glock in .45 GAP it's shot down, but the theory has resurfaced numerious times after and now it seems like a credible option for a U.S. Marshall to be carrying one. --burgershot621

I can't think of a Reason why it couldn't be one. He specifically states its a .45 and glock would want to market it over the 21, surely.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 18:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

For the love of God its a tv show...just because a character says he is shooting a .45 does not mean that the shows armour handed the actor a .45 to act with. Number one, where and why would a movie/tv armour buy all but dead calibered hand guns like the 45GAP...and two why would a small town law enforcement agent carrie a hard to get ammoed firearm like the 45gap.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:40, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Then by your comment, why do we discuss anything at all on this website? Everything on here is just a movie, t.v. show, or video game. Number one, .45GAP is anything but dead, and U.S. Marshals aren't small town law enforcement. It's a federal law enforcment agency that is part of the executive branch. Doesn't sound small time to me, and sounds like it could stand to reason that it would use a specialized caliber such as .45 GAP. - Burgershot621

Kinda hard to call it a dead caliber when the entire the Georgia State Patrol carry Glock's in 45GAP.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

In the commercial world Yes the 45GAP is dead in the water...Glock themselves are unloading them in hope of getting rid of them at a lower fee, I can buy any model of 45Gap for atleast 20% less then any other model of glock ...because there is NO public demand. Yes, a couple state patrols got bamboozled into issueing them...but do you really think a movie armorer will go out of their way to special order a 45GAP for a TV show and then get specialized blanks for the 45gap..or do you think it is more logical to give the actors another model of glock and just put in the script that it is a 45.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 20:38, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

dunno, there's been some speculation as to the plethora of glocks shown in this show, such as maybe a product placement deal? who knows. i mean, the last time i looked at the actual page it was listed that raylen used a glock in .357 Sig. Why would he switch from a 9mm, to a .357, to a .45ACP? Just something to think about and no one said that the .45 was definately .45 GAP. its just speculation and is not beyond the realm of possibility...

goodwin's law.

In the commercial world? If you are going by the commercial world then the round would have to be no longer produced by any manufacturer to be dead. Federal, Magtech, Remington, Winchester, and Speer are major producers of ammunition and they still see fit to produce the .45 GAP. If major suppliers of ammunition are still producing a round, then it can't be considered dead in the water. As for .45 GAP Glock's being cheaper, its called supply and demand. The .45 GAP was forgotten by a lot of writers when Springfield Armory made their XD in .45 ACP. The same could be said about the .357 Sig. Except for Law Enforcement Agencies, not a lot of people carry or own a .357 Sig. Where I am, pistols chambered in the .357 Sig are somewhat cheaper than .40S&W, .45ACP or 9mm. They is not a great demand so suppliers are focusing more on popular models. I have cousins and know a lot of Georgia State Patrolmen. They didn't get bamboozled into the .45 GAP. They like it. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 23:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Seeing as how Para Ordnance had Springfield have decided to create 1911s and XD's chambered for .45 GAP, the round is anything but dead.---[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 00:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

In my store we have 6 types of .357 sig, 5 types of 10mm, 2 types of .327 federal...Hell we even have RCM ammo in stock. But not one box of 45 GAP, not one gun chambered in .45 GAP. All my suppliers from MT to Acusport to gunarama to ellett brothers tell me they cant give the .45GAPs away because they sit on the shelf and collect dust because nobody wants them. The ammo is becoming more and more low production similiar to the .32 H&R mag and .38 short colt ammo. Springfield DID chamber the XD in 45 gap but dropped it because NOBODY was buying them...and just try to find a Springfield 1911 in a 45 gap (they talked about it in 2005 but i never saw one). If my memory serves me right i think PARA chambers in a 9x23 so if they do do a 45gap it is meaningless for the caliber and anyway they dont do it anymore. AND Finally, If someone gave me a free 45 gap and my job supplied me with all the 45gap ammo i could shot (like the Georgia State patrol) I would most likely say that i like the caliber too...but that does not mean i would go buy my own ammo and my own personal gun in that caliber. All my customers that bought the 45gap back in the day thinking it would be cool all grew to regret it and are now trying to sell them without lossing their shirt in the deal. I call it dead because it will have no more growth, production will never be higher then the previous year...I am not yet calling the 45GAP a wildcat--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:01, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

soo back to the original point of this...it is possible that givens would have a .45 GAP glock if it was issued to him...--[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 01:56, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

The character Givens in theory could be issued a 45 gap in script form...but it is very unlikely that Timothy Olyphant physically has a .45 GAP in his hands in filming.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

One of the old teaser trailers had a few good close-ups of the Glock. "17" and "9x19" were both clear on the slide. It may not necessarily be the same one used for filming the episodes, but it seems pretty likely. [[User:Gato|Gato]] 19:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, it was pure speculation, based upon the scene we see. If we are going go over this "9mm are easier to blank fire" thing EVERYTIME a glock is mentioned, then this site is going to get very boring. There are many incidents of a director or actor wanting the specific weapon because a person or persons they base their character on, or them just liking a certain caliber. Also, gun companies often use tv or movies to advertise their weapons or calibers or new equipment, if a character often mentions the exact caliber or model number of their weapon, it's reasonable to assume that this is the case.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 00:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

It has to be a 21, I just finished watching the whole series and Raylan always fires 13 rounds before reloading, the promo art and the uk box shows a wide bore on the barrel. Coupling this with him telling the judge he uses a 'glock in 45' and tha fact the 45gap glock only has a ten round capacity i think its safe to say its a 21--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:31, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Ok here is my take on this whole discussion as I just finished reading all the posts going back and forth about what Glock he is carrying. Glocks are very difficult to identify on film without a clear image of the slide and model numbers on them. I think if a character says in a show/film that they are carrying a 45 Glock then unless you have a screen cap of the gun proving otherwise then it should be posted as such. This isn't a case like the movie Kiss the Girls where the character says "pick up the Glock" and the gun is clearly not a Glock. Or A Few Good Men when the character says a "nickle plated 45" and the gun in question is a 9mm Beretta. It should also be noted that the 2 most common calibers for blankadapted firearms are both 9mm AND 45acp. That is because the standard pressures of the round can be low enough to be safe to the actors while still alowing the gun to function properly. 40s&w and 357sig are higher pressure/power rounds and therefore not likely to be blank adapted for use in film. The 45gap is a lower power 45 so it is possible but the brass and ammo for them tend to cost more. Just IMHO... if the guy says it is a 45 Glock and he is in fact carrying a Glock (which should be easy to identify for all of us gun nuts) then it should be posted as such and not what we "think" it is because it is "unlikely" the actor was handed what he says he has.--[[User:Ram229|Ram229]] 02:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Just watched episode 3 (working my way through the series) and it looks like his Glock is a 9mm. There's a bit where he is talking about drawing and when he draws his Glock it is pointed right at the camera and the bore looks too small to be a .45. It appears to be the a 9mm size.--[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:32, 23 April 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:JustGlockBore.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]

The bore size of the Glock looks to me to be a 9mm but I can't be 100% sure. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 05:26, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

==Arts Sig==
in the piolt, art uses a sig to fire at the two fat neo-nazis. it says its a P226, but it looks to compact to be a 226. id say 228 or 229 --[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

==Fixer Guns==
Anyone care to id the guns used in that episode by the bad guys?

== Raylen's Glock ==

After watching the entire series i have kept an eye on Raylens Glock. although he seems to carry at least two throughout the series i can say with some degree of certainty that he doesnt carry a .45 i would suspect it is a Glock 19/23 in the latter half of season 2. the finally made it very clear how small the weapon was. there are several shots throughout the series of the bore which i would doubt to be .40 S&W let alone a .45 can someone else put in their opinions or ideas? maybe with a screenshot or two?? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:39, 11 October 2011 (CDT)

Here's one I uploaded a while back and is actually further up the page:

[[Image:JustGlockBore.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]

Looks like a 9mm to me. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:12, 11 October 2011 (CDT)

thanks, i believe that the only time he uses a Glock 21 is in the episode that the picture is taken on the main page. i would assume that when he fired in excessive of 15 or so rounds in the finale it means either a Glock 17/22. however in the second season his Glock appears to be a compact, any thoughts? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:59, 12 October 2011 (CDT)

I can't really remember there being much difference in his gun in the second season but it's been a while since I've watched it. I'll have to re-watch it some time. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:35, 12 October 2011 (CDT)

== In Desperate Need ==

This page is in desperate need of an update. Please do it.--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 17:25, 12 December 2011 (CST)

Sons of Anarchy

2011-11-16T20:53:01Z

SAMBAMA: /* Beretta 92FS */

[[Image:Sons of Anarchy PosterA.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Sons of Anarchy (2008-????) Television series on FX Network]]
[[Category:Television]]

''Sons of Anarchy'' is FX's latest crime drama centering around Jax Teller, vice-president of SAMCRO (Sons of Anarchy Motorcycle Club Redwood Original) a gang deeply involved in illegal gunrunning. The story is roughly based on Shakespeare's play ''Hamlet'', with Jax's mother and stepfather sharing a dark secret about the death of Jax's father and Jax coming into his own while trying to lead SAMCRO away from guns.

'''The following guns were used on the show [[Sons of Anarchy]]''':

'''Warning: Page contains spoilers.'''
==Beretta 92FS==
The [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] is used by various members of SAMCRO throughout the first two seasons. Among them Jax, Half Sack and Tig.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|250px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:SOA 40.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Chibbs readies a Beretta 92 in the episode "Seeds"]]
[[Image:SOA 43.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jax (offscreen)holds a group of "reformed" pedophiles at bay in "Fun Town"]]

==Beretta 3032 Tomcat==
Tara is shown to own and carry a [[Beretta 3032 Tomcat]]. She started carrying it in Chicago after Kohn began stalking her.
[[Image:Beretta3032Tomcat.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 3032 Tomcat - .32 ACP ]]
[[Image:SOA_14.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Tara takes the nickle plated Beretta Bobcat out of storage when she realizes Kohn is after her again]]
[[Image:SOA_15.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Gemma finds Tara's stashed Bobcat]]

==Beretta Px4 Storm==
[[Image:Px4 Storm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta Px4 Storm - 9x19mm]]

In the Season 3, Episode 1 - SO, one of the "fine dark fellows" points a Beretta Px4 Storm on SAMCRO's crew.

[[Image:Soa1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A thug points his Px4 on Clay at the top-right of the pic.]]

== Colt Pony ==
At one point Gemma gives Tara a [[Colt Pony]] which has no serial numbers to replace the Beretta Bobcat Tara had been carrying. Making the weapon an ideal drop gun for dealing with Kohn.

[[Image:SOA_31.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|Gemma takes a Colt Pony out of her "hatbox of guns" to give to Tara]]
[[Image:SOA_32.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|Gemma's Colt Pony lying on the counter next to the hatbox|]]

==CZ-75BD==

In the episode "Potlatch", Bobby is seen using a [[CZ 75|CZ 75BD]] to threaten Georgie Caruso's bodyguard while they get LuAnn's camera and laptop back from him.
[[Image:Cz75bd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CZ 75BD - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:SOA 49.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bobby pulls his CZ 75 after bursting into Georgie's office]]
[[Image:SOA 50.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bobby covering Georgie's bodyguard with his CZ 75]]

==Glock 17==
This is also involved in the plot of the first episode, as the Mayans also stole [[Glock 17]]s from their warehouse (Note: Both the M4s and the Glocks were destined for the "Niners", a gang that also makes appearances in "The Shield"). Several of the bikers, including Jax ([[Charlie Hunnam]]) also use them at the end of the episode when they steal the guns back from the Mayans. Jax also shown to carry it in several other episodes. It's also seen in the opening credits of every episode. Edmund also uses this gun when trying to kill Agent Stahl in his home during the finale, only to find out it was loaded with blanks put there by the ATF. It is also becoming Opie's main gun.

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|200px|A Generation 3 Glock 17 9mm. Note the finger grooves, thumb reliefs, and accessory rail on the frame, which differentiate it from the older model.]]
[[Image:‎SOA_07.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Jax lays his Glock on a pile of his dad's things in the pilot. You can just make out the "17" on the receiver.]]
[[Image:SOA_08.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Jax holds a Nord at bay when recovering a stolen gas tanker.]]
[[Image:SOA_03.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Glocks scattered on the ground of SAMCRO's warehouse in the pilot]]

==Glock 21==

In season 2 in the episode "Falx Cerebri", Gemma ([[Katey Sagal]]) brings this .45 ACP chambered [[Glock 21]] pistol when she shows Tara how to shoot a gun. She ends up using it to shoot up a car. You see her bring a box of .45 ACP bullets and can tell its a .45 Glock by the size of the bore and it being a full-size dictates it must be the Model 21.

Gemma's Glock is seen much more clearly in Season 2, Episode 4 "Eureka" when she tries to kill AJ Weston ([[Henry Rollins]]). As she loads the Glock in her car, it is possible to see the "21" and ".45 Auto" stamp on the slide, confirming the identity of the pistol as a G21.

[[Image:Glock21.jpg|thumb|none|250px|Glock 21 (3rd Generation) - .45 ACP.]]

[[Image:SOA_10.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|Gemma and Tara light up a porn actress's car in Season 2]]

==Heckler & Koch USP Expert==
Clay ([[Ron Perlman]]) carries a [[Heckler & Koch USP|Heckler & Koch USP Expert]] during the first season and part of the second season. It is presumably confiscated by sheriff's deputies.
[[Image:Usp large expert.jpg|thumb|none|400px|H&K USP expert]]

== Heckler & Koch USP==
Clay ([[Ron Perlman]]) carries a [[Heckler & Koch USP]] during the confrontation a Darby's cook-house.
[[Image:SOA 47.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Clay and Happy drawing down on Darby when busting a Nord meth lab]]
[[Image:SOA 48.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Clay lecturing Darby about the facts of life in Charming]]

==Jericho 941==
The [[Jericho 941#Jericho 941FB Compact|Jericho 941FB Compact]] used by both members of SAMCRO and their rivals in various episodes of the series.

[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|400px|none|A Jericho 941 similar to the weapon used in ''Sons of Anarchy'']]
[[Image:SOA 41.jpg|600px|none|A Jericho 941 is planted on a dead body in "Seeds"]]
[[Image:SOA_34.JPG|thumb|600px|none|A Mayan opens up on the new SOA charter in "Patch Over"]]

==Kahr CW9==
A [[Kahr K9|Kahr CW9]] seen in Cam's hand when he is laying on the ground after being shot by the Mayan assassins.
[[Image:KahrCW9.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|Kahr CW9 9mm - Matte Stainless slide - Polymer Frame - 3.6" barrel]]

==Llama .22==
Held by junkie mechanic (lowell) when he is in his apartment after losing it and relapsing. Clay then takes it from him and almost kills him with it.
[[Image:SOA_22.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Lowell holds his gun on Clay as he threatens to burst through the hotel room door]]
[[Image:SOA_23.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Clay holds the pistol on Lowell while contemplating using a pillow as an improvised suppressor]]

''I am going to call this as a Llama .22. Given the relative small size of the weapon (granted Ron Pearlman does not have the smallest mitts in the world) it doesn't look like a converted M1911. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 08:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)''

==Smith and Wesson 6906==
Most commonly seen being used by Bobby Elvis in the first season.

[[Image:S&W6906_TUS.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Similar model to Elvis's Gun, Minus the Suppressor. ]]
[[Image:SOA_11.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Bobby Elvis with his standard sidearm]]
[[Image:SOA_12.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Bobby with his S&W 5946 suppressed using it to kill a corrupt port official]]
[[Image:SOA_13.JPG|thumb|600px|none|A closeup of the suppressed S&W 5946]]

==Rossi 462==
Found hidden in the drawer of Jax's ex's house (alongside some needles and crank) is this snub nosed which Jax later uses as a back up piece during the raid on the Mayans.

[[Image:Rossi 462.jpg|thumb|300px|none]]
[[Image:SOA 44.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jax discovers his ex's secret stash in their former home]]
[[Image:SOA 45.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jax slipping the Rossi into his waistband before leaving his ex's house.]]

==SIG Sauer P226==
[[Image:SigP226TwoTone03.jpg|thumb|none|250px|Two-tone SIG-Sauer P226 9mm.]]
Agent Scott Kohn ([[Jay Karnes]]) carried a [[SIG-Sauer P226|SIG-Sauer P226R]] and made a big mistake by placing it on a bed table when he tries to have his way with Tara. She then grabs it and puts one in his ribs before Jax shows up and finishes him with it.

== SIG Sauer P229R ==
[[Image:SIG-SauerP229R.jpg‎|none|250px|Sig Sauer P229R - 9x19mm, also chambered for .40S&W & .357SIG]]
In The Episode 2x06 "Falx Celebri" is using by Deputy Chief Hale in the Raid at Zobelle's house.

==Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1 Springfield Custom==
Becoming Jax's personal sidearm through most of Season 2 is this 1911 variant. He uses this handgun with a suppressor to kill a rapist.

[[Image:SOA_29.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|Jax moving through AJ Weston's house in Season 2.]]
[[Image:SOA_30.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|Jax's 1911 on the ground after showing Weston's son he means no harm]]
http://spoilertv.iimmgg.com/image/d67947f76a0c52e52cc08cb55c5f9c3f

==Springfield XD40==
In the episode "Lochan Mor" Happy shows his Springfield XD40 when the IRA bodyguards ask SAMCRO if they are armed.

==HK MP5A3==
Several [[H&K MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|H&K MP5A3]]s are used by ATF agents in raid of clubhouse. It is also shown in the opening credits in every episode.

[[Image:HKmp5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight and safe-semi-two round burst trigger group]]
[[Image:SOA_21.JPG|thumb|600px|none|An MP5A3 with a rail mount and selector markings clearly visible from the opening credits]]
[[Image:SOA_19.JPG|thumb|600px|none|The ATF agent on the right carrying an HK MP5A3 with the Surefire light visible]]
[[Image:SOA_20.JPG|thumb|600px|none|An ATF agent carrying an MP5A3 throws Jax to the ground during the raid on SAMCRO]]

==MP5-K==
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|250px|Heckler & Koch MP5K - version with SEF Plastic Trigger Pack - 9mm. This is a very well worn Motion picture weapon]]
In the episode where the Mayans attack the Devils club, one of them is seen firing this weapon at the Sons from his hip on a motorcycle.

==MAC-10==
A burned [[MAC-10]] can be seen among the remains of the arms warehouse when Hale arrives. Tig ([[Kim Coates]]) also uses one in "The Sleep of Babies."

[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|250px|none|Ingram MAC 10 open bolt submachine gun - .45 ACP]]‎
[[Image:SOA_16.JPG|thumb|600px|none|A disguised Tigg prepares to fire the MAC-10 in "The Sleep of Babies."]]

==Intratec AB-10==

In the first episode of Season Two four of the Sons can be seen testing these weapons, among others, as part of a new arms deal with members of the IRA.

[[Image:TEC-9.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:SOA_17.JPG‎|thumb|600px|none|Jax squeezes of a few rounds on the "new" AB-10s]]
[[Image:SOA_18.JPG‎|thumb|600px|none|More members of SOA firing off ''(this is before spooking Half Sack with some live fire!!!)'']]

==AKM==
The ''AKM'' features prominently in the series as the backbone of SAMCRO's gunrunning empire. Provided by their IRA contact the AKs are usually assembled by SAMCRO themselves.

[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:SOA_26.JPG|thumb|600px|none|The disassembled AKs in the oil drums as provided by the IRA]]
[[Image:SOA_27.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Juice examining a stash of AKs in the SAMCRO clubhouse]]
[[Image:SOA_28.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Jax and the boys coming up with a unique way of smuggling the AKs out]]

==M4A1 Carbine==
The plot of the first episode revolves around a cache of [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|M4A1 carbines]] stolen from the Sons by the Mayans (a rival biker gang). Clay ([[Ron Perlman]]) uses one at the end of the episode after taking it back from the Mayans.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M4A1 carbine 5.56x45mm with RIS foregrip and M68 Aimpoint scope.]]
[[Image:SOA_01.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A crate of M4A1s with mounted Aimpoint scopes from the pilot.]]
[[Image:‎SOA_02.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Alvarez handles one of the M4s stolen from the SAMCRO warehouse. Note the excellent trigger discipline.]]
[[Image:‎SOA_05.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Clay unloads a recovered M4 on the Mayans' building in the pilot. His eyes are probably closed due to the high muzzle flash and it being nighttime]]

==Ruger AC556==
[[Image:Ruger-Mini-14.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Blued Ruger Mini-14 Standard Model Semiautomatic Rifle (Pre-2005) with 30 round magazine - 5.56mm]]
A [[Ruger AC556]] with a short barrel can be seen being loaded by Clay at the Clubhouse in "Hell Followed". It is also seen in the opening credits in each episode.

== Mossberg 590 ==
Seen occasionally throughout the series is yet another popular combat shotgun.

[[Image:Mossberg 590 Special.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Mossberg 590 similar to the one seen in Sons of Anarchy]]
[[Image:SOA_37.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Tigg helps repel the Mayan attack on the new SOA chapterhouse]]
[[Image:SOA_38.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A better shot of Tigg's 590. Note the ghost ring sights.]]

==Remington 870==

Used throughout the series by both SAMCRO and their allies/enemies is this classic pump action.

[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Standard Remington 870 pump]]
[[Image:SOA_35.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Bobby Elvis brandishing a Remington 870 pump during the raid on Georgie's porn set ''(note Half Sack's happy expression)'']]
[[Image:SOA_36.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A Charming deputy armed with an 870 during the ATF raid on SAMCRO's clubhouse.]]

== Non-Guns ==

This series seems to take liberal use of non-guns or flash paper guns throughout (I am guessing for safety reasons). I watched one episode, I believe it was "Patch Over" where one of the Mayans shooting up the new SOA chapter literally seems to be making the "bang bang" motion with his arm instead of actually shooting anything.

[[Image:Ng machinegun AK47 allwood.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AK Non Gun as featured prominently in ''AK-51'']]
[[Image:SOA_24.JPG‎|thumb|600px|none|The militia men firing AK non-guns in AK-51]]
[[Image:SOA_25.JPG‎|thumb|600px|none|The militia men using the non-guns during the prisoner escape]]

== Trivia ==

At one point in the second season when Jax startles the "porn queen" Luanne he asks he if she thought he was going to "Adriana" her. The inside joke being that Drea De Matteo who played Jax's ex in the first season, and who has disappeared from the show since, played Adriana on [[The Sopranos]] who was killed and buried to keep her from talking to the authorities.

Talk:Sons of Anarchy

2011-10-08T22:29:47Z

SAMBAMA: /* The guns they deal */

==Spoilers==
Thanks for the spoilers all over this page assholes. I came here having seen every episode except for the last one of season 2, thinking there'd be no reason for any spoilers of that particular episode here, I mean what would be the point. What possible purpose is there of spoiling one of the finales on a gun documentation website. But no, once again imfdb proves it's made up of the best and brightest minds of our generation. And what is with the moronic commentary all over the page? I want to know what guns the characters used, not hear your shitty opinions on things.

:Well I'm sorry something got ruined for you. While I watch the show, I've never done any major work on the page, maybe minor edits. I'll see about removing the spoilers (which aren't allowed unless absolutely necessary) and dumb comments. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:32, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

::I understand your frustration, but please understand that IMFDB has a "no spoilers" policy (it IS in our rules). The reason those spoilers are on this page is because some anonymous user (like yourself) added those in without reading the rules first, and we didn't notice. There aren't enough Administrators on this site to monitor every page at all times, or the hundreds of edits made every day; we rely on the members to help enforce our rules. So I'd appreciate it if you refrained from acting as though "IMFDB" is responsible for the work of a particular anonymous user or users, especially if you're going to express your frustration with a profanity-laced tirade. It reduces any sympathy I might have had for your grievances. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

==bs==
Could one of you guys that knows how to screencap good pics really well post some pictures on here. That'd be nice.
:Im gonna buy the season 1 dvd when i can, but you need to change the code for the pics from right to none. it'll make the page all pretty. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

Has anyone bought the season one DVD of this kick-ass show yet? Can't wait to see all the cool screenshots some of you come up with. Hope to see 'em on here soon.

On 10/13/2009, Jax is seen using what appears to be a customized M1911A1 in a shoulder rig. Does anybody know if this has become Jax's new weapon of choice?

*I have the first season so, if you want, I can cap as much as I can when I can as long as someone else takes care of the layout. Additionally, I do not think the .45 is Jax's new standard. Like most of the characters he seems to use whatever is handy and since SAMCRO has access to quite an extensive selection. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]]

:: Am working on capping as much as I can of season 1 and 2...if someone wants to organize them just give me a shout --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I think the custom 1911 we saw Jax carrying in the episode where he searched Weston's house is his new primary sidearm because it was also seen in the latest episode when he tells Clay to put a bullet in the back of his head.- ArmoredMason619

This are just the first caps. More will be forthcoming. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 15:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the kick ass screen caps man. I been waiting awhile for someone to put em up for my favorite show. Hope to see more!- ArmoredMason619

Added more caps and, in my own anal retentive tradition, organized the weapons by class and alphabetically. Got a few more on the way. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 11:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Real nice job with the page man. It looks good and some good screencaps too.- ArmoredMason619

== Happy's guns ==
Anyone know what kind of guns Happy carries?

In the episode where Devil's Tribe crosses over he pulls two service size Glocks out of his vest.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what episode this is from, but he's certainly not holding a Glock. Between the sites and upper slide, I'm left with 1911, BHP, or something else...but certainly no tuperware. Which episode is this?
It was in Fa Gaun

I have reason to believe it is a EAA Witness P 45

I think I saw exposed hammers on those two. Any other guess?

I stated that in the episode where the Devil's Tribe was patched over, Season 1 episode 4, Happy used two fullsize Glocks. The picture is from season 2. The picture is probably a 1911 of some sort.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Judging from the sights and from pictures on Happys face book page this is my bet
http://tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GunSourceFrontPage/Images/EAA/EAApistol.jpg
[[Image:SOA 47.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Note the gun Happy is carrying, you call that a Glock?!]]

==Edits==
I removed the unidentified .357 from this page. I watched the episode over and over and my best cap allowed no clear identification of the weapon other than it may have had ivory grips and also the fact that it is never really seen clearly again but...you can be the judge. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:24, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks a little like a Smith and Wesson k/l frame, short barrel revolver. Check it out, and hopefully you can find the right one. Cheers. - Mcain

[[Image:SOA 46.jpg]]

The 1911 in SOA - most always used by Jax Teller in the second season - is in fact, a Springfield Armory 1911. I believe it to be either modified Mil Spec with Novak Sights, beavertail, flared magwell/MSH, etc, OR more likely, a Springfield Professional (judging by the slanted 'CUSTOM' stamp front right). 12:24, 1 December 2009 - MCain

[[Image:http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/PC9111.jpg]]

I just made a few spelling corrections, putting SIG into upper case letters and the odd minor spelling mistake that I noticed. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:27, 5 July 2011 (CDT)

==Jaxs Glock==
Anyone know what happened to Jaxs Glock?

I am going to assume they issued him the .45 to give him something distinctive like Clay's USP or Bobby's S&W the Glock being a little more generic than the .45. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

==Guns from the Finale==

In S02EP13, agent Stahl is seen using a black on black Kahr PM9 (not the CW9)after shooting Edmond Hayes.

You will also see Polly Zobelle running what looks like a Smith and Wesson 3913, in the same scene.

Also look for Cameron Hayes when he holds up Halfsac and Tara with a Sig 226(R) or 220. - Mcain

There were also a lot of Shotguns.

==Jaxs season 3 gun==
If they follow what they did last season they are most likely going to give a new gun. Any predictions? Also do you think they are going to get rid of his 45?

==Moved from front page==
''It could very well be a Springfield but I could not quite make out the markings. Any assist would be much appreciated. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 09:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)''

I believe that its a modified Springfield/Colt M1911A1 the reason for this is because it could very likely be Jax's fathers service pistol from when he was in the military during Vietnam.

In a few of the last episodes of season 2 you can clearly seeit is marked Kimber. It looks like it may be a Kimber Royal II 45 ACP ;)

Sorry but in the last few episodes, specifically the episode when Jax goes into Weston's house only to find his children, you can see the markings on the 1911 very clearly. The marking on the back of the slide is that of a Springfield Armory. The marking on the font of the slide, if you're a Springfield fan, you can tell that it says Springfield Custom. Jax uses a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1 Springfeild Custom. Springfield uses clear lettering on their pistols whereas Kimber uses custom cursive, kind of italic.

FRom the Looks of it, i think its a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1 Springfeild Custom. I can tell you that its not Jax's Dads Service Pistol form Vietnam because of the sights on the weapon.

it's very clearly a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1
the address... http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/springfieldarmoryprofessional45.jpg

again as i say its possible that is john tellers service pistol considering springfield suppilied the goverment with 45s during vietnam

To whoever is saying that it could be John Tellers service pistol you are dead wrong. And even more wrong about Springfield supplying firearms to the govt in the VN war. Springfield Armory, Inc. didn't exist in any capacity until 1974. That style of 1911 wasn't popular until at earliest the mid 90s and Professional model 1911s are custom built, you can not send them a gun and have it turned into a professional model.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 14:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Springfield Armory has been around long before '74; however, it was not the company that it is today. Though circulation was one of the lowest - along with US&S - the Springfields were around. In the case of Jaxs, it is agreeably a SA Professional straight from the Custom Shop. Same features, along with the 'CUSTOM' rollmark posted front-right. Great weapon choices for the characters -- I especially loved Clay's Expert.

==Season 3 trailer==
Just saw it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmuLQVetvyg
Anyone care to screencap?

==Season3 so far.==

Can anyone please update this page for season 3?

:I could but, frankly, there is not much new so far. Maybe a few new weapons but nothing major thus far. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

We really do need to update this page.

If no one minds I will cap the current season when it ends. I just find it easier to do it all in one shot. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Good to know. [[SAMBAMA]]

==Evils (Possible) Smith==
Look at the image below, this could very possibly me a Smith 6909, like shown. But there is something about the shape of the slide and possibly the size, that leads me to think otherwise. Also, the writing on the slide is much thicker, Possibly a different producer of the same model. Any-one else?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 22:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:SOA_11.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Bobby Elvis with his standard sidearm]]

[[Image:S&W6906LEFT.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Newer Model Smith & Wesson 6906]]

==Hell Followed arsenal==
Anyone know what guns that were on the table?

The only ones I could make out with any degree of certainty was a pair of Mini Uzi's. Opie was handling what looked like a Mossberg 590 or 500 with ghost ring sights.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 13:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Coming Soon ==

The season will be over soon so I can start capping things. As an FYI I can tell you that, among other weapons making an appearance this season are HK MP-5Ks (both the standard and PDW version, HK-91/G3s and M-249 SAWs. Be another week or two but I will have them up ASAP. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Good luck and be sure to througroly cap it. Also can we please update this page and organise it?

==The guns they deal==

Besides the Aks, what other guns do they deal?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 19:08, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Glocks and M4's on pilot.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:41, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, anything else?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 21:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

1911's in the bikerolls that they run through Cali. --[[Special:Contributions/99.232.4.148|99.232.4.148]] 01:57, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok. There were also in the last episode KG-9s, what appeared to be Mossberg M500s, MAC-10s, Remington M870s, and in Patch Over Mossberg M590s.--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 03:27, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

There were also MP-5s, also I have another question, how come they only sold M4s in the Pilot and sold AKs in the rest of the series?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 03:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Well the M4s were a custom order from the Niners. The shipments they were getting from the Irish were all AK's so thats what they had to deal. The MP-5's were what the Triads were importing. I would say that they were also dealing Mac-10s also because they had some of those in the warehouse that blew up. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:53, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but wouldn't reading the page answer this question? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Generally yes...but...since this is a show with dialogue...the characters might have talked in script about guns they are dealing...without actually showing the firearms they are dealing. This site only displays the guns that are actually shown and used in the viewing.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 16:53, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, in season 4, they show a selection of guns they're dealing to the Cartel, and Jax lists each one by name. So in season 4, they're dealing AR-15s, SIG SG 551s, KG-9's, and Glock 17s. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 17:07, 21 September 2011 (CDT)

They are also dealing FN-57s as well.

==Weston==
Does anyone know if AJ Weston is ever seen with a gun? I'm sure he must have used one at some point, but I can't recall. [[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 10:17, 8 February 2011

==Season 3 Update==
When is this page going to be updated for S3?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 08:42, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

Talk:Jurassic Park III

2011-07-05T16:27:27Z

SAMBAMA: /* Mossberg 500 Cruiser */

==Moved from page==

-I'm not gun genius, but how hard would it be to hit a huge dinosaur with a 20mm sniper rifle? and if you did, a round that big (and that pack a small boom) would cause damage, no?
::You make a good point. Some merc he is if he can't hit a Spinosaurus with that thing. But if he did hit it and kill it, it would be a 15 minute movie and thus serve no point to exist. In real life, the guys with the guns survive when facing dinosaurs, but in Hollywood, all you need to do is run fast. >:(. I wish he had killed the Spino, T-rex is the coolest and the Spino was a dumb attempt at topping it. Thanks a lot Jack Horner. (I used to be a dino-nut, in case no one knew) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::I agree, T-rex for the win man! But really, you saw what the rifle did to a light aircraft in the movie, so what would it do to a Spino? Anyhow, you hear him fire it like 4 times, in awfully rapid succesion. I'm thinking that firing a 20mm rifle that fast might hurt one's shoulder....
::::Fuck the spino, fuck it in its ear.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Fucking A Right Mother Fucker! Fuck the fucking fucker.-SomeGuy

:::::I was disappointed that they made the Spinosaurus into the main villain for this movie, but not quite sure I have '''that''' hostile a reaction to it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::It's hard to use any firearm effectively in a recent Spielberg movie, because guns are bad and icky. See also nasty gun-haver Muldoon dying in the original (in the book he survived), the two "big" guns in II never being fired (Roland's .600 nitro and Eddy's Lindstradt), one getting the more or less innocent user eaten horribly more or less just because he made a big deal about having a nice gun, the field full of heavily armed mercs in II getting killed while the unarmed civilians make it through without a scratch...And ET, of course. Can't let people think Federal agents would posess actual weaponry. He's fallen a long way since Harrison Ford remembered he'd bought a gun to a swordfight. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 07:51, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:::Indeed man, these movies make you wonder why they bother having guns in them. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

: Well the 'subtle' thing throughout most big Hollywood films for quite some time now is that all guns are inherently evil and bad EXCEPT when used by a hero who is very handsome and/or built like a tank, using a gun with which he never misses, never jams and has infinite ammo, heh. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:23, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

==Spinosaurus WAS the king of dinosaurs==
You guys are forgetting that we ''erroneously'' thought that the T-Rex was the king of the carnivores, but it wasn't. The ONLY EXISTING skeleton of a Spinosaurus (which was WAY bigger than any T-Rex) for decades was in the National Museum of Natural History ... in Nazi Germany BEFORE World War Two. It was obliterated (along with other priceless archeological treasures) by American and British bombing raids. So only recently archeologists unearthed other Spinosaurus bones, it can RIGHTFULLY take it's place as the dinosaur that kicked T-Rex's ass. So we're wrong. Not history. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I would have to disagree with you this time, MPM2008, even though Spinosaurus was bigger then Tyrannosaurus Rex, it would still have a better chance at losing the fight. Tyrannosaurus Rex had a pretty good size brain cavity, was stocky and muscular, and most of all, had one of the greatest bite forces of any land animal ever to live on this planet, it's jaw was capable of cutting through flesh, and crushing bone. So chances are, once the T.Rex bit down on the Spino's neck, it would have crushed it's neck, killng or atleast paralzying it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 07:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

:I haven't paid much attention to paleontology for about 10 years now, but didn't Spinosaurus have fairly fragile jaws and teeth? My understanding is that it ate lots of fish when it wasn't scavenging.

:As far as T-Rex goes, whether or not it was a predator is (I understand) still debatable, but it was certainly FAR better equipped to fight in hand-to-hand combat than a Spinosaurus. The fact that the Spinosaurus might have had an extra couple of meters length seems irrelevent; it would be like a basketball player fighting a professional wrestler.

:BTW, I think it's cool that so many other IMFDB members are into dinosaurs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:You are right, MT2008, Spinosaurus had small hollow teeth, while T.Rex had serrated teeth the size of bananas. So chances are that the Spino's teeth would have cracked when it tried to break the T. Rex's neck. I also think that T.Rex was a hunter since many paleontologists seem to have found dinosaurs bones with healed Tyrannosaurus bite marks on them, but the debate still goes on. I'm also glad to see that other IMFDB members are intersted in Dinosaurs as well, it's one of my other interests besides firearms. I enjoy watching dino-documentaries (Walking With Dinosaurs, etc) as much as I do movies, dinosaurs always interested me since I was small.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:21, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

::::Well, I did not know that. I had no idea we had master Paleontologists here ;) I just brought up this note, because of all the Spino-Hate and because I saw a documentary about all of the lost treasures that were destroyed by Allied Bombing in World War II, the ONLY Spinosaurus skeleton (and all the notes) being one of the casualties of the bombings over Germany. I'm not going to argue anything since I must defer to men who are far greater 'experts' than myself. :) I was far more into 'dinosaurs' when I was a kid. I think you grow out of dinosaurs when you *cough* become a man ...uh, I mean get OLDER... ;) LOL! MPM2008

a)the t-rex had pissy little arms which were useless.
b)the spinosaurus had very strong forearms.
c)both were dwarfed by the giganotosaurus which lived in south america
::I too was a dino-nut as a younger kid, but as MPM said, it fades usually. From what I read, the Giganotosaurus was taller and longer, but was much weaker and poorly built. The T-rex was a big bulky predator, while the Spinosaurus was a fish eater and scavenger. While the Spino had bigger arms than the T-rex, the T-rex had a very powerful mouth that more than made up for it (it was the size of a refrigerator). And while a spinosaurus skeleton destroyed during WWII was found to be very large, normal spinos aren't bigger than the T-rex. Just longer (T-rex being ~40ft and Spinos being ~60ft). So I believe the T-rex still deserves the rightful place as the Terrible Lizard King! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Fun fact, today we know that while in the Jurassic Park films the raptors were six feet tall and called "Velociraptors", they actually mixed up the species. The dinosaur shown as the velociraptor in the series are in fact Deinonychus. The Velociraptor is the smaller 3ft dino. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

I still think the T-Rex was a carnivore. I mean I can't imagine a T-Rex being a lazy couch potato and just going after what was already dead. Seems like Scientists like to (pardon my french) pussify things. I mean when JP 1 was being filmed Deinonychus was originally a Velociraptor subspecies. But then a few months after the movie came out, Paleotologists renamed it to what it is now known as today. And don't get me started on feathers, I mean (again, pardon my french), but nothing screams pussy like a dinosaur covered in feathers. But I did think Spino was a neat addition. I mean it is a 60+ foot long dino with the face of a crododile. That's K.A. The only thing that I wish in ANY action movie, is the enemies should at least actually attempt to fire their weapons accurately. I mean take out those mercs from II and III and replace them with the Ultranationalists and Wehrmmacht (From WaW and CoD4) and set the difficulty to Veteran, let's see what those raptors got to say about that...lol. That, or put in sharpshooters ala Tom Selleck in Quigley Down Under. He shot a man in the back of the head while speeding down the desert in a buckboard (From a distance of 700+ yards), and his shooting eye was black and blue. [[User:1morey|1morey]] 05:49, 5 March 2011 (MSK)

Forget putting fictional characters. Put any of us with a gun and even if our aim sucks, at close range even when the dino is about to open wide, full auto from an assault rifle would take it down. Several shotgun blasts would at least make it think twice. Since these guys are most likely not accustomed to the sound of a gunshot, the noise alone would scare them away. Seriously, the Marines that showed up would have extincted all the dinos on the island. You tell a US Marine that there's dinosaurs on an island, you bet we're going to hear about a bunch of trigger happy guys and I'd join them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:31, 5 March 2011 (MSK)

==Mossberg 500 Cruiser==
That really sucks that Nash didn't use his Mossberg 500 Cruiser. He could have took it out from his back and injure the Spino instead of crawling for cover. - (Kenny99)[[Special:Contributions/98.234.123.141|98.234.123.141]] 19:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:Cause shotgun pellets would injure such a large dinosaur..... [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 18:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Because it would knock a Raptor on its ass-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

==Just a Theory==
I think I know why Cooper's 20mm rounds didn't harm the Spino. There was a second Spino and Cooper killed it. Little did he know that the Spino he killed was the First Spino's mate and he got pissed off. What do you guys think?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 11:27, 5 July 2011 (CDT)

Talk:Shooter (2007)

2011-06-11T02:06:50Z

SAMBAMA: /* Anyone else notice the tape on the 870? */

==Memphis' Glock==

-Memphis' piece could be a Glock 22, seeing is that is what an FBI agent would be using in real life and the barrel looks like it could be 10mm... at a glance atleast...?
It would make a lot of sense if it were a G22 which fires a .40 S&W round, a short 10mm.

I have explained before that just because the Glock 22 is what the FBI uses in real life does not mean that the prop gun used by Michael Pena is one. It is generally more common for blank pistols in Hollywood to be 9mm. Until evidence is presented to suggest otherwise, it's far more fair to assume this is a Glock 17. Also, Ryan Steacy, the armorer who worked on this movie, has posted on this page and corrected us when we said that the machine gun on the helicopter was a PKM (he also added more info about the Barrett M82, which can be seen above). He didn't correct us on the Glock model used, which suggests to me that we got it right. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

When the government agents try to force Memphis to commit suicide, there are some good shots of his Glock. One shot shows the bore diameter could possibly be .40. I no longer own this movie so I can't screencap it myself sadly. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Sorry I had to move your Glock input Gunmaster, but Glock and M203, sadly, do not mix. (GamerfreakB7)

==Pop-bottle suppressed .22 LR==

- There seems to be a bit of confusion about what exactly this weapon is. To add to the mix, it almost looks like a Winchester Model 60 Cooey. The tubular magazine and the shape of the safety knob at the back of the bolt are somewhat similar, not to mention the wood carving on the stock at the grip. It is virtually identical to my own Cooey.

It looks like a Marlin 781 or 981 to me.

has no one done the silenced steyr aug that swagger uses at the end, i would but i dont know how to do images
-no because it's an m4/ar15 variant

also the statement this is the only time swagger fires right handed is untrue as there is anothe shot on the page where he shoots right handed with the m40

== Quote by Weapons Coordinator ==

Someone removed the Quote by the films Weapon Co ordinator and I just reverted it. I did so because We as a site can't get better information than First hand from the people who supply the weapons used in film. What they have to say has alot of merit towards a film.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 22:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

==Spoilers not allowed==
I am removing the extra information that pretty much outlines the plot and twists in the movie unless it is completely unavoidable. It is not necessary to repeat the entire plot of the film for the viewer. It is NOT necessary for this page and completely irrelevant to the gun information on the page. MPM20008

:Okay I understand, MPM2008. Thanks for doing so.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Left Handed and right handed shooting ==

Swagger naturally is right-handed. He shoots right until he is wounded in the RIGHT shoulder. Recoil from firearms hurts as it is. When you have a wounded shoulder, it REALLY hurts! Therefore, Swagger (a highly trained sniper) changes to left handed shooting (which Walberg naturally is) for the duration of the movie. There are certain times in the movie (namely the farm shootout) Swagger had to shoot right handed, in order to be tactically correct and keep most of his body undercover. He made two shots righthanded, he probably just sucked it up and took the pain. For the most part, Swagger shoots left handed because of a wounded right shoulder. When a tactical situation called for it, he shot right. But in the end, Bob Lee Swagger is right handed. The writers wrote in an injury to make things easier for Mark Walberg (a lefty) to protray. Easier to go with what you know. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

I think you are a bit off there. After he is released and he goes to the nighttime cabin he is still shooting left handed. You would think that a bullet wound would have healed by that time. [[User:bristow8411|bristow8411]]

== BULLET FLIGHT TIME ==

I'm a gun nut, and it frustrates me that with all the technical assistance and knowledge available to the moviemakers, they still don't get it right. When presented with the details of the required shot at the beginning by Glover, Whalberg replies that it could be a 6 - 10 sec bullet flight time for a shot about 1.5 miles. Well at 6 secs, the bullet would have a muzzle velocity of 1000fps. Later in the film, the shot distance is mentioned at 2000 yds, and using the gun in the film to make this shot, that flight time for the projectile would have been about 2.14secs. How can they miscalculate that easy one!?

:Because then they'd also show the way a round at that range would *actually* hit: straight down to blow the dude to literal pieces.

yea the USMC sniper saying about that is that even true? -scarecrow

:Yes. Bullets follow a parabolic path when fired. That means you'd have to compensate when firing at range (ie, aiming higher than the actual target to account for this) which means that the bullet would eventually come arcing pointing downwards into the top of the target's head. And seeing as how this is a large-caliber round...

== M203 ==

did anyone else notice at the begining, when swagger is covering the troops, that the distance to the target was 870 yards, yet a minute later we see swaggers spotter firing his m203 and hitting a parked car, now i think that the range for a single shot grenade launcher is a bit unrealistic. never the less more tactically sound than most and still a good film.

I was watching shooter on my iPod (again) and noticed a discrepancy with Donnie Fenn's M203: Its trigger guard is TOTALLY SQUARED in the back. I went and watched it on my computer to be sure and I was right, so this means that they used a CM203 39mm Flare Launcher instead of an M203 Grenade Launcher. (GamerfreakB7)

40 MM ERLP rounds have a range of 880 yds (burnrate)

== Sniper Rifle Tripod ==

In the assassination scene the gun used to kill the guy next to the President is on a remote control tripod. Does anyone know what kind of stand this is, and would it still take a highly trained shooter to take this shoot considering the technology being used?--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 08:22, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

The Remote control sniper weapom is the Precision Remotes Telepresent Rapid-Aiming Platform (TRAP). It's basically a computer-operated weapon platform that holds a standard rifle. Think Mars Rover holding a CheyTac M200. (GamerfreakB7)

http://precisionremotes.com/ground-mount.php

I wouldn't let ''anyone'' take the shot unless it had been set and calibrated by an experienced shooter. Long range shooting has a lot of variables involved: wind speed and direction (which can vary downrange, and moreso in an urban environment), elevation of the shooter relative to the target, local weather (temperature and humidity), to name but a few. There are ballistics software programs that can take a lot of the guesswork out of the equation, but the more data you have the more accurate the prediction will be. An experienced shooter would be able to factor in a lot of the above variables within a short space of time. Note early in the film before the hit he was checking a lot of this on the location. ''Wraith''

== uniforms ==

i know this isnt about guns but the uniform that swagger and his spotter wear while covering the contractors looks like army ucp pattern rather than marine marpat wondering if anyone else noticed.
:your right, they were ACUs, not the MARPAT. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winchester]]

marines contracted to the US army O_o

From some conversations with retired military personnel, snipers often have a lot of leeway in the uniforms they wear in the field. It depends on the military service but some have the option of choosing a pattern that better reflects their environment. In that location Swagger and his spotter thought that ACU made a better base pattern that MARPAT, and their CO allowed them to do this. I have heard of some odd pattern combinations being used, such as US Desert 6-color chock-chip pattern being used with UK DPM jacket, Italian WW2 pattern smocks (also used by the Waffen-SS) with AusCam pants, knock-off US Woodland, surplus German Flektern, and so on. Some extra uniforms on hand are cheaper than losing a trained sniper team that were found because of a camo pattern that didn't quite match the environment. Or, MARPAT was not available to the production crew so they used ACU because it was what they had. ''Wraith''

Unless we can talk to someone in the production of the movie, the uniforms are either a mistake in costuming or an effort to show snipers in the field using what they thought was best for the operation. ''Wraith''

== Trivia ==

When Swagger and FBI agent Memphis go to Tennessee to the home of Swaggers friend, the expert on shooting and ballistics (played by former drummer for The Band Levon Helm), the wife of Swagger's friend is played by actress Rebecca Toolan, who played the mother of FBI Agent Fox Mulder from seasons 1-7, the character being killed off in 2000, season 7, Mulder's last full season on the show.-[[Harleyguy|Harleyguy]]

== Gun in ranch ==

what is the rifle that swagger uses during the ranch is it still the .22 or did he pickup a 2nd remington 700

I believe it's in a deleted scene, but Swagger has Memphis buy two rifles. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:01, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

thanks love this site hopefully im learning enough to contribute eventually

I've found it considerably easier to create a .txt file with a basic page template, then using it for any new additions/creations and copying it over to the site. Just remember not to save over the original .txt file, might be a pain in the butt the next time. Also, marking who you are, even if your just an IP right now is always nice for other people. Use this: <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> or the little square second from the right above where you type. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:43, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

in the movie shooter the guy with the unidentfied pistol is proberbly a BERETTA M92SB with a shorter barrel. the way you can tell is the trigger guard is rounded instead of crested at the front of trigger guard.

==Unidentified Pistols==

The second one is a Beretta 92FS, the first one tucked into the guys pants looks like some kind of Sig-Sauer.--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Tactical action ==

When Swagger changes M4A1 magazines during the running gunfight, he pulls back the charge handle when all he should have to do is push the slide release to chamber the next round. I think this is correct.

There can be a number of reasons for this. One is that he want to follow the charging handle down to assure the bolt locks. Just using the slide release could result in a jam and he wouldnt know until he pulled the trigger costing seconds if not more. I for one do the butt stock slap to load the first round of a new magazine...not tactical...just looks cool.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 23:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

For all of us not "in the know" what is the deal with this stock slap? [[Special:Contributions/98.237.107.108|98.237.107.108]] 06:24, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Next time you are playin around with a AR-15 and you load a fresh mag in to a open chambered action...give the back of the butt a firm flat handed slap...and see what happens.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 17:04, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Will do. [[Special:Contributions/166.137.11.187|166.137.11.187]] 02:52, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

== Swagger's CheyTac ==

The reason Swagger is holding the rifle with his left hand is because he got shot on the right side. He switches to a left-handed shooting stance for every weapon after that.

as stated above multiple times, and sign you posts with four ~ at the end [[User:Scarecrow|scarecrow]] 11:06, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== Anyone else notice the tape on the 870? ==

The last image for the 870, where the bad guy is holding it on the girl, the foreend is taped back, as well as the grip is taped to the baddie's hand. Why would they tape the foreend back? For safety or what?

http://www.imfdb.org/images/2/2c/S-Remington-870-3.jpg

== Swaggers M4 ==

I know this probably a stupid question, but does anyone know what happened to Bobs M4 after he uses it to crack the gas line? It's been on my mind a while and it's bugging me.--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 21:06, 10 June 2011 (CDT)

Talk:Sons of Anarchy

2011-05-30T13:42:46Z

SAMBAMA: /* Weston */

==Spoilers==
Thanks for the spoilers all over this page assholes. I came here having seen every episode except for the last one of season 2, thinking there'd be no reason for any spoilers of that particular episode here, I mean what would be the point. What possible purpose is there of spoiling one of the finales on a gun documentation website. But no, once again imfdb proves it's made up of the best and brightest minds of our generation. And what is with the moronic commentary all over the page? I want to know what guns the characters used, not hear your shitty opinions on things.

:Well I'm sorry something got ruined for you. While I watch the show, I've never done any major work on the page, maybe minor edits. I'll see about removing the spoilers (which aren't allowed unless absolutely necessary) and dumb comments. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:32, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

::I understand your frustration, but please understand that IMFDB has a "no spoilers" policy (it IS in our rules). The reason those spoilers are on this page is because some anonymous user (like yourself) added those in without reading the rules first, and we didn't notice. There aren't enough Administrators on this site to monitor every page at all times, or the hundreds of edits made every day; we rely on the members to help enforce our rules. So I'd appreciate it if you refrained from acting as though "IMFDB" is responsible for the work of a particular anonymous user or users, especially if you're going to express your frustration with a profanity-laced tirade. It reduces any sympathy I might have had for your grievances. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

==bs==
Could one of you guys that knows how to screencap good pics really well post some pictures on here. That'd be nice.
:Im gonna buy the season 1 dvd when i can, but you need to change the code for the pics from right to none. it'll make the page all pretty. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

Has anyone bought the season one DVD of this kick-ass show yet? Can't wait to see all the cool screenshots some of you come up with. Hope to see 'em on here soon.

On 10/13/2009, Jax is seen using what appears to be a customized M1911A1 in a shoulder rig. Does anybody know if this has become Jax's new weapon of choice?

*I have the first season so, if you want, I can cap as much as I can when I can as long as someone else takes care of the layout. Additionally, I do not think the .45 is Jax's new standard. Like most of the characters he seems to use whatever is handy and since SAMCRO has access to quite an extensive selection. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]]

:: Am working on capping as much as I can of season 1 and 2...if someone wants to organize them just give me a shout --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I think the custom 1911 we saw Jax carrying in the episode where he searched Weston's house is his new primary sidearm because it was also seen in the latest episode when he tells Clay to put a bullet in the back of his head.- ArmoredMason619

This are just the first caps. More will be forthcoming. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 15:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the kick ass screen caps man. I been waiting awhile for someone to put em up for my favorite show. Hope to see more!- ArmoredMason619

Added more caps and, in my own anal retentive tradition, organized the weapons by class and alphabetically. Got a few more on the way. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 11:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Real nice job with the page man. It looks good and some good screencaps too.- ArmoredMason619

== Happy's guns ==
Anyone know what kind of guns Happy carries?

In the episode where Devil's Tribe crosses over he pulls two service size Glocks out of his vest.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what episode this is from, but he's certainly not holding a Glock. Between the sites and upper slide, I'm left with 1911, BHP, or something else...but certainly no tuperware. Which episode is this?
It was in Fa Gaun

I have reason to believe it is a EAA Witness P 45

I think I saw exposed hammers on those two. Any other guess?

I stated that in the episode where the Devil's Tribe was patched over, Season 1 episode 4, Happy used two fullsize Glocks. The picture is from season 2. The picture is probably a 1911 of some sort.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Judging from the sights and from pictures on Happys face book page this is my bet
http://tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GunSourceFrontPage/Images/EAA/EAApistol.jpg
[[Image:SOA 47.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Note the gun Happy is carrying, you call that a Glock?!]]

==Edits==
I removed the unidentified .357 from this page. I watched the episode over and over and my best cap allowed no clear identification of the weapon other than it may have had ivory grips and also the fact that it is never really seen clearly again but...you can be the judge. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:24, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks a little like a Smith and Wesson k/l frame, short barrel revolver. Check it out, and hopefully you can find the right one. Cheers. - Mcain

[[Image:SOA 46.jpg]]

The 1911 in SOA - most always used by Jax Teller in the second season - is in fact, a Springfield Armory 1911. I believe it to be either modified Mil Spec with Novak Sights, beavertail, flared magwell/MSH, etc, OR more likely, a Springfield Professional (judging by the slanted 'CUSTOM' stamp front right). 12:24, 1 December 2009 - MCain

[[Image:http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/PC9111.jpg]]

==Jaxs Glock==
Anyone know what happened to Jaxs Glock?

I am going to assume they issued him the .45 to give him something distinctive like Clay's USP or Bobby's S&W the Glock being a little more generic than the .45. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

==Guns from the Finale==

In S02EP13, agent Stahl is seen using a black on black Kahr PM9 (not the CW9)after shooting Edmond Hayes.

You will also see Polly Zobelle running what looks like a Smith and Wesson 3913, in the same scene.

Also look for Cameron Hayes when he holds up Halfsac and Tara with a Sig 226(R) or 220. - Mcain

There were also a lot of Shotguns.

==Jaxs season 3 gun==
If they follow what they did last season they are most likely going to give a new gun. Any predictions? Also do you think they are going to get rid of his 45?

==Moved from front page==
''It could very well be a Springfield but I could not quite make out the markings. Any assist would be much appreciated. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 09:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)''

I believe that its a modified Springfield/Colt M1911A1 the reason for this is because it could very likely be Jax's fathers service pistol from when he was in the military during Vietnam.

In a few of the last episodes of season 2 you can clearly seeit is marked Kimber. It looks like it may be a Kimber Royal II 45 ACP ;)

Sorry but in the last few episodes, specifically the episode when Jax goes into Weston's house only to find his children, you can see the markings on the 1911 very clearly. The marking on the back of the slide is that of a Springfield Armory. The marking on the font of the slide, if you're a Springfield fan, you can tell that it says Springfield Custom. Jax uses a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1 Springfeild Custom. Springfield uses clear lettering on their pistols whereas Kimber uses custom cursive, kind of italic.

FRom the Looks of it, i think its a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1 Springfeild Custom. I can tell you that its not Jax's Dads Service Pistol form Vietnam because of the sights on the weapon.

it's very clearly a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1
the address... http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/springfieldarmoryprofessional45.jpg

again as i say its possible that is john tellers service pistol considering springfield suppilied the goverment with 45s during vietnam

To whoever is saying that it could be John Tellers service pistol you are dead wrong. And even more wrong about Springfield supplying firearms to the govt in the VN war. Springfield Armory, Inc. didn't exist in any capacity until 1974. That style of 1911 wasn't popular until at earliest the mid 90s and Professional model 1911s are custom built, you can not send them a gun and have it turned into a professional model.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 14:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Springfield Armory has been around long before '74; however, it was not the company that it is today. Though circulation was one of the lowest - along with US&S - the Springfields were around. In the case of Jaxs, it is agreeably a SA Professional straight from the Custom Shop. Same features, along with the 'CUSTOM' rollmark posted front-right. Great weapon choices for the characters -- I especially loved Clay's Expert.

==Season 3 trailer==
Just saw it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmuLQVetvyg
Anyone care to screencap?

==Season3 so far.==

Can anyone please update this page for season 3?

:I could but, frankly, there is not much new so far. Maybe a few new weapons but nothing major thus far. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

We really do need to update this page.

If no one minds I will cap the current season when it ends. I just find it easier to do it all in one shot. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Good to know. [[SAMBAMA]]

==Evils (Possible) Smith==
Look at the image below, this could very possibly me a Smith 6909, like shown. But there is something about the shape of the slide and possibly the size, that leads me to think otherwise. Also, the writing on the slide is much thicker, Possibly a different producer of the same model. Any-one else?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 22:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:SOA_11.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Bobby Elvis with his standard sidearm]]

[[Image:S&W6906LEFT.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Newer Model Smith & Wesson 6906]]

==Hell Followed arsenal==
Anyone know what guns that were on the table?

The only ones I could make out with any degree of certainty was a pair of Mini Uzi's. Opie was handling what looked like a Mossberg 590 or 500 with ghost ring sights.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 13:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Coming Soon ==

The season will be over soon so I can start capping things. As an FYI I can tell you that, among other weapons making an appearance this season are HK MP-5Ks (both the standard and PDW version, HK-91/G3s and M-249 SAWs. Be another week or two but I will have them up ASAP. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Good luck and be sure to througroly cap it. Also can we please update this page and organise it?

==The guns they deal==

Besides the Aks, what other guns do they deal?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 19:08, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Glocks and M4's on pilot.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:41, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, anything else?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 21:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

1911's in the bikerolls that they run through Cali. --[[Special:Contributions/99.232.4.148|99.232.4.148]] 01:57, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok. There were also in the last episode KG-9s, what appeared to be Mossberg M500s, MAC-10s, Remington M870s, and in Patch Over Mossberg M590s.--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 03:27, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

There were also MP-5s, also I have another question, how come they only sold M4s in the Pilot and sold AKs in the rest of the series?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 03:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Well the M4s were a custom order from the Niners. The shipments they were getting from the Irish were all AK's so thats what they had to deal. The MP-5's were what the Triads were importing. I would say that they were also dealing Mac-10s also because they had some of those in the warehouse that blew up. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:53, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but wouldn't reading the page answer this question? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Generally yes...but...since this is a show with dialogue...the characters might have talked in script about guns they are dealing...without actually showing the firearms they are dealing. This site only displays the guns that are actually shown and used in the viewing.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 16:53, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

==Weston==
Does anyone know if AJ Weston is ever seen with a gun? I'm sure he must have used one at some point, but I can't recall. [[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 10:17, 8 February 2011

==Season 3 Update==
When is this page going to be updated for S3?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 08:42, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

Talk:Main Page

2011-03-18T23:39:24Z

SAMBAMA:

__TOC__ 

==Blue Bloods==
Can someone make a page for this new show starring Tom Selleck?--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 18:39, 18 March 2011 (CDT)

==Steven Seagal==
Why is their no weapon page for Seagal's The Patriot?
: Well Mr., why don't you make it yourself? And while your at it, sign your posts. --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 06:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

== Killzone ==
how are none of the killzone games on this website? i know they contain fictional weapons but its still intresting and other games with mock up weapons such as resident evil 0 are on here?

== Malcom X and 9 Deaths of the Ninja ==

There's a scene where Archie says, "Frisk me", and Malcom is unable to find the gun because it's hidden in the small of archie's back. Anyone know what type of gun that is? Oh and there's a low budget movie called "9 Deaths of the Ninja" which features a gatling type rifle called "the Dancer". Anyone know anything about that? Hit me up on my Talk Page. [[User:Des|Des]] 08:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

==NCIS/Sons of Anarchy crossover arsenal==
Hey I'm writing a crossover between those two shows and would like a second opinion about the arsenal the 3 Nomads use. it's listed below.

Nomad’s weapons: In Trojan Horse and the sequels that will follow The Nomads employ a variety of guns and weapons to get the job done, however they usually carry them on their persons, their saddlebags, or in their Chevy van.
Their weapons include:
On person:
Sam: Glock 22, KaBar, Glock 26 on right ankle holster, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle

Vince: Glock 21, KaBar, 2 Glock 26s on a duel ankle holster on right ankle, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle

Hank: Dual Glock 21s in shoulder rig, Big Daddy Jungle Knife, 1 Glock 30 on right ankle holster, Tiger shark combat knife on left ankle

In Saddle bags: 10 in each

Sam: 1 Sawed off Remington 1100, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 1 Tec 9, 2 Kimber Custom 45s, 3 Glock 17s, 1 Glock 34, 1 Berretta PX4 storm 45

Vince: 1 Sawed off Ithaca M37, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 8 Glock 19s

Hank: 1 Sawed off Remington M870, 9 Glock 21s

106 in Van in a custom extra tire compartment in the back floor, gun rack, glove

compartments, and boxes:

60 Handguns:

30 Glock 17s

10 Glock 21s

10 Glock 22s

10 Glock 27s

15 Shotguns:

5 Sawed off Remington M870s

5 Sawed off Ithaca M37s

5 Benelli M4 tacticals

12 Assault Rifles:

12 AK 47s

11 Knives:

5 5” Tantos

1 Spartan fixed blade

3 13” Bowie Knives

2 Neck Knives

8 Melee:

3 Louisville Sluggers

1 9 iron golf club

2 sawed off pool cues

1 black jack

1 Brass knuckles

What do you guys think? Are these weapons appropriate for outlaw bikers?
Also heres the link to the story:http: //www.fanfiction.net/s/5643700/1/Trojan_Horse. tell me what you think.

==Bolt-Action Shotguns==
I have watched some youtube videos with people using a variety of bolt-action shotguns, one of the videos is called 16 ga one handed redneck style where he has modified this bolt-action shotty by sawing off the stock and adding a green finish, if you can identify it I would appreciate it.

==IMFDB = Internet Movie Firearms Data Base, right?==
That's an assumption from the obvious subject of this Wiki. Don't you think the full name should appear on the Main Page? I don't see it anywhere! Fine Wiki you've got going here. [[Special:Contributions/68.199.188.123|68.199.188.123]] 05:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:You are right! We should have the title INTERNET MOVIE FIREARMS DATA BASE somewhere boldly on the main page. I can EDIT the page, but it has a lot of wiki code on it and I don't want to mess anything up. Can someone else with access (and more wiki code experience) do this change? Can Bunni do this change? It seems pretty obvious and I can't believe we didn't catch it until now. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

::- I see now we have a big '''Internet Movie Firearms Database''' banner on the main page. Looks good. All the OCD nuts should be happy now! Yay! :b Seriously though, it is good to have it, thanks and nice job. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

==Oh, and another question==
Just watched very interesting commercial. Directed by [[Sam Raimi]] it's actually spoofing [[Desperado]]. There are guns, including [[Remington 1866 Derringer]], one of my personal favoties, i can recognize it everywhere. There's also [[John Saxon]] here. Can i do a page about this commercial? Also, if more global, can commercials and music videos be here, as they also media, like video games and movies. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 15:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know about that. That's getting too much out of scope, I think. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::NO Commercials, NO Music Videos. There are tons of commercials that play only in Europe or Asia and we can't verify any of that info here. For one thing, you can't BUY or rent the DVDs of television commercials and (the vast majority of) Music videos to screencap them, or more importantly, confirm the veracity of said pages. Yes, chances are you can find a (usually low rez version) on the Internet, but really, do people wonder about the guns in either of those types of visual media? If we include ALL visual media, then we would be forced to accept news broadcasts, documentaries, industrial or training videos, etc. etc. and veer farther from the central theme of being the MOVIE firearms database. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:08, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
::: You wrong actually - there are tons of DVD and festivals, that show commercials. And you can verify them via youtube Though, never mind. But can i do the thing on [[Sam Raimi]] page as a bonus like "Other Works" on IMDB? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 09:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

::::No YOU'RE WRONG, Kloga. You insist on adding things that are (a) unnecessary and (b) Stupid. I'm on the verge of banning just because you keep on pushing it and pushing when we say NO to your various ideas. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

- Commercials? Music videos? Are you joking? Man, there are literally zillions of commercials that have been made in the world, and I'm sure a healthy percentage of them have gun usage. There have also been loads upon loads of music videos, with a much higher percentage of them having firearms in them. All of which would make for a rather ugly number of additional pages. You're talking about increasing this site in size and organization by at least two or three-fold, if not far more. Be realistic. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

==Request: High Heels & Low Lifes==
While kinda chick-flick-ish, it's still a highly entertaining movie.. and has some really nice looking firearms. There is a scene where one of the main characters, Mason, is standing in the doorway of a darkened apartment, turns to face (three quarters) the camera and pulls out a gun. I have no idea what kind of firearm this is but it looks really awesome.. and if anyone can identify it would be much appreciated!

==Jacked pictures==
The following are pictures taken from my website. The first one is edited, but it's still my picture. The first version still has my copyright notice on it, as does the second picture. [[Image:M1891.jpg]] and [[Image:M39.jpg]] Please remove all versions of both these pictures from the database. I'm not very familiar with wikis or I'd do it myself. --[[User:7.62x54r.net|7.62x54r.net]] 23:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

==English Scripts==
To unregistered users. use English script when writing on these pages. Most of us are American and don't run asian word scripts on our computers. Thus Asian letters are unreadable to us and look like gibberish. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Screencap Legality ==
How do you know whether uploading screencaps violates copyright or not?
: Pretty sure it is okay because no one has hunted us down to sue us, but anyway, as long as you don't claim it is your work and credit only yourself, you should be okay. -GM
:: One thing I would advise you to do is not upload screenshots from pirated copies of movies that haven't been released yet on DVD and Blu Ray. I imagine that if someone working for one of the studios saw that, they would be very upset. They'll know the shots came from a bootleg if the movie isn't out on DVD yet, and they might just throw the book at us. Avoid this at all costs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Merging articles ==

Is it possible to merge an article with a pre-existing article? Every time I try to do this with particular types of guns, I get an error message that says, "A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name." For instance, if I wanted to move the HK91 article under the H&K G3 article (since the HK91 is a G3 variant, I don't think it needs its own page), I can't do this.
::To merge an article, take the article, copy all the information and put it on the new page in the format you wish to make. You can also do this if you wish to change the name of a page. Take the page that you copied everything from and delete everything on that page. Write on that page this exactly(minus quotes):
"#REDIRECT (then use double [ ] brackets) and write the name of the page EXACTLY AS IT IS. Screw up the name and it'll redirect no where.
:Example
# "#Redirect [[[[M16 rifle series]]]]"
Note:How I made it look finished is what it should look like. Not what it looks like when in the editing of the page. Hope I helped. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

This is probably rhetorical, but is this the same method of redirecting to a page, i.e. [[QBZ-95]] redirecting to [[Norinco QB rifle series]]? I noticed that a page for the QBZ-95 was deleted because there already was one (Norinco QB rifle series), but whenever you type in QBZ-95, there are absolutely no results for it, and that could be confusing for your everyday user..[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Let there be backups! ==
Ok, I've installed ruby on our dedicated server, signed up for Amazon's s3 storage service, and customized a ruby backup script to automatically backup the database and all image files at 4am pst and upload them to our s3 folder. The process really bogs down the box for a good 10 minutes, so I'm thinking once every 24 hours is fine, but I may go to once every 12 hours eventually... Thanks for putting up with the ups and downs during this time of transition.

Best,
Chris
[[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to our new server! This is the first of many steps I am taking to ensure we never lose data again. The site used to be hosted on shared hosting overseas - we now have a dedicated server housed in a co-location in San Jose, CA. Dedicated servers don't come cheap, but your time, effort, and contributions are now my number one priority.

I'm still transferring the images that have been uploaded over the last couple days, don't worry they're not lost!

==The McUzi==
It wasn’t until I read the ‘Raw Deal’ article on the “fake Uzi” that I realized Hollywood was dressing MAC-10s up as Uzis.

In ‘The Dog of War’ the mercenaries are supposed to be using Uzis. However some are using MAC-10s and some are using MACs dressed up as Uzis. The actors seem to change weapons randomly. For example, as the climactic battle begins Tom Berenger is using a real Uzi and Christopher Walken is using a silenced Uzi. However in the final minutes both are using McUzis. This is made painfully clear as Walken holds the gun to his face when reloading.

There are real MAC Uzi hybrids. These are civilian versions of the Uzi with a .45 barrel, bolt and a MAC-10 magazine well to accept the universal Grease Gun magazines.

The Hollywood guns are merely MACs with Uzi parts added on.

I would see to real reason to make a gun like this accept that the filmmakers wanted to use Uzis but ran out. Much like ‘Planet of the Apes’ when the studio ran out of ape costumes they simply used paper mask. If you look closely at the audience of Heston’s mock trial.

I captured some great stills to add to ‘The Dogs of War’ article.````

== moved from main page ==
We're on the new server and still working the bugs out - email me at cserrano@gmail.com if you're having any issues editing or logging in. The backup file is from early September 30, so most of yesterdays edits are missing - sorry GunMaster45 I'm working on it! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC) ''GunMaster45 I've recovered the latest version of the [[Street Kings]] page - anything else we're missing?'' [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 21:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
: I had the R9 pistol which I had uploaed today but I redid it. Will the pictures remain fuzzy and pixelated or is that just temporary? (Hopefully) -GM

If you find something missing from the old server you can still access it here 66.79.167.132/~imfdb/index.php?title=Main_Page [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 20:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:I had just uploaded some pics of the AR18 from Terminator and the Street Sweeper from Total Recall. Can you get them back, or should I upload them again? Also, MPM2008 uploaded some new gun pics, and I don't think he'll appreciate their loss.

== How do i "screencap" a movie? ==
How do i screencap a movie?: [[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 12:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, OK then. We all have our own methods of doing so. Personally, I play my DVDs using VLC Media Player, which has a Snapshot feature which lets you take screenshots when paused, and then it saves them automatically as JPEGs or PNGs to a designated folder of your choosing. However, that's ONLY when I'm screencapping movies I own on DVD. I also rent and download movies using iTunes which I might screencap for IMFDB pages, and I can't play those with VLC. In those cases, I just hit the "Print Screen" key, paste the image into MSPaint, and then crop away the iTunes browser so that only the movie image remains. Then I save them to my HD in a designated folder. Once I've acquired enough screenshots for a movie, I use "Upload file" to put them on IMFDB so that I can use them for pages I edit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::First and most importantly, you need a DVD drive in your computer to watch the movie. I watch mine on Windows WinDVD system, which has a built in "screencap" button by pressing P, which saves them all in WinDVD file. I take those files from the folder, which are all saved under BMPs and re-save them as JPGs using Corel Paintshop. If they are widescreen, I use crop to cut them out. I then upload them to the site and post them. Now that I've read MT2008's method for iTunes, I can screencap [[Shoot 'Em Up]] which wasn't compatable with my WinDVD system, but worked on my other DVD player which had no screencap button. Hooray! -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

And also you can use the program I use which is CyberLink PowerDVD which also has a built in Screenshot button. First the screenshots start out as BMPs, but then I use Irfan View to save them as JPGs to a different folder. And if they are widescreen, I use Windows Photo Gallery to crop off the black bars. You should also check out Gunmaster's and MT2008's methods because they might be better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

What about taking pictures on a digital camera and uploading them to your PC? Does anyone know if it works?[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 21:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

::Thats a very myspace101 question but it's simple there's about 4 ways to do it but I've only done 2. (This demonstration is only done on Windows XP)

:::Option 1: If your camera has a memory slot like a (Compact Flash, Secure Digital, Mini SD, Micro SD, Memory Stick Pro, MultiMediaCard (MMC), SmartMedia, xD-Picture Card (xD), etc.) you could remove the card from the camera. Step 1: Once you removed the card from the camera if you have a compatible USB card reader you can plug the card reader into the computer and plug the card into the card reader. The most common great quality card reader brands are (Sandisk, Memorex, PNY, and Lexar) for approximately $20.00 at Wal-Mart.

:::Option 2: If your camera has a connection for a USB cable. Step 1: You can easily find and plug the USB adaptor into the camera and plug the other end of the plug into you computer.

:::The upload process is easy (tested on Windows XP) your computer bottom right task tray will show a "Found New Hardware" icon and be gone that means your camera is connected. Step 2: A pop up will show on how you want to view your images click on "view with Windows" if this pop up does not pop up you will have to manually follow step 3 if not skip on to step 4. Step 3: You may click "My Computer" or "My Documents" most likely on the desktop or start menu on your computer you will go to "My Computer" and find a folder that says a brand of your memory card or camera. Step: 4 Click on the folder and look through all folders and once you find it you may highlight the folder or the selected images on your computer mouse right click and press copy (or press Ctrl+C on your keyboard) and paste the images where ever you want in your computer.

== How do i screencap from a television? ==
Like if i wanted to screencap some video games? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

If you have an XBOX 360 go out and buy a Dazzle adaptor, Video Amplification Distributor, and a few assorted cables such as an HD Cable for it. This will allow you to record videos from your game,and use a simple program like Paint or Snipping Tool to get your screenshots out of it.
-CZAR-

:You probably need some high tech gizmo. Usually people who screencap TV use DVR and record TV on DVD, then upload them on the computer. I've never done it but it may work for VGs. -GM45

::Personally, I'd recommend maybe trying an emulator to play said game on your computer (assuming your PC is fast enough to handle the software and game). I've been thinking of redoing the ''[[Goldeneye 007]]'' page for a while using Project64 (which has a screencap feature), because I can play that game at high resolution even on my laptop.
:::I recommend softwares like Fraps (only for PC games). It can take images with a click of a button and you can choose what to save it as in the Pictures section. The disadvantage is that you can't record gameplay in computer games and you must pay about $99 (not sure, but around there and you can also pay little by little per month or week to use) it to do unlimited video capturing. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

==Call of Duty 4 pictures==
I've got good pictures of guns for Call of Duty 4, but i don't know how to upload them, anyone knows how to email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com

:All you have to do is go to "Upload file" under the "Toolbox" section in the left-hand column. -MT2008

==Protection Log?==
Is something wrong with the site. Why are all the pics being fixed with "([edit=sysop:move=sysop])" for a protection log? I know little about that technical stuff, is someone removing the pics or are they just being protected from over-uploading crappy pics over? -GM

:They're being protected. Some asshole came in earlier today and kept trying to replace MoviePropMaster's pics with stock 'Net images, and kept doing it even after he was asked to stop. MPM's pics are our pride 'n joy...Alienqueen and I agreed not to let them get screwed with anymore. -MT2008

Yeah, that's reason why I did it. I just wish I had my ability to block users back, and then I wouldn't have had to set up protections. I told that guy not to upload over MPM2008's images and multiple times and he didn't listen.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==Flannigan==
on the Snatch page- I know it already says that the .50 is a 357, but also another way of finding out is that .50s fire 7 rounds where as in the film Bullet tooth tony fires 8 in every mag. so it must be a 357.

Retrieved from "http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Snatch"

==Deleting old files==
As y'all can probably tell, I have been on a huge deleting spree recently. I've been getting rid of files that weren't being used for whatever reason or another. Some of them were gun images that have since been replaced by MoviePropMaster's images, others were old screencaps that have been replaced by newer ones (like all of my old ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' shots, which have since been replaced by GunMaster's), and some were those images of weird experimental guns uploaded by Cutaway that don't appear in any movie and thus have no purpose on this site.

I realize, of course, that this by itself won't relieve the strain on the servers; it's inevitable as this site grows. But it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. If anyone of the Admins are interested in helping out, please go to "Special Pages" and click on "Unused Files" (at the top). If you see something that might be worth keeping (i.e. Choi's screencaps from ''[[The Killer]]'' which haven't been put on the page yet), leave it alone, but if you see gun images that obviously have no use or screencaps that you know have been replaced...ditch 'em.

Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Good Work, MT2008. I'm sure it'll give us more server space, I'll be sure to delete some myself. One question, if we get rid of the old files, will this site load faster?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

:Beats me, but I'd have to guess...not ''noticeably'' faster. It will at least give us more space for uploading newer files. However, IMFDB is constantly growing, so it's inevitable we'll reach our limits eventually. You'd have to ask Bunni when that will be. Anyway, I'm off to the pub now. I will be back later to continue. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:20, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Go right ahead, you deserve a break. I'll get rid of as many as I can, I'm also seeing alot of screenshots nobody bothered to use, it makes me wonder why people upload them if they're just going to sit there for a year and gather dust. And, I'm also going to screencap [[Four Brothers]] and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]] soon, so you can look forward to seeing them completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Fictional Firearms==
I propose that we denote pages for 'fictional' firearms with parentheses "like Non Guns" so that they are in a different grouping than real guns. GM has made pages for the fantasy weapons of Hellboy II and that made me think about custom pages for the Morita Rifle (Starship troopers) or the M590 (Space:Above and Beyond) or the Blade Runner Pistol or any of the Star Wars guns (versus other types of Sci fi weapons, these should be guns). Even though THESE fictional guns are based on real guns, they can have their own pages with links to the original weapons page. Regardless, I think that guns that aren't real should be separated, lest they confuse users. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:I agree. I was kinda turned off when I saw the Aliens Resurrection page. None of those guns were based off of real firearms or even guns dressed up to look like futuristic guns.

::Well I get the point of making a post about fictional guns that were built around real guns like the Morita rifle and the Pulse Rifle of Aliens, but guns that were built from scratch like the Samaritian. Would it really need a page here or is that just for the fanboys who like the gun? It's like a page for the cars used in the Punisher movie or people who like to include knives, swords, and even bows & arrow in pages, including me. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

:::The advantage is that the page can inform an interested user that the prop was NOT based on any real firearm, information that is just as important as informing 'what real firearm' was used in a prop weapon. What I don't like are obvious NON crafted weapons .... like [[Molotov cocktails]] ... wtf? That's an improvised weapon, like a sharp stick or a brick.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

::What about bows & arrows, or crossbows? I put them in my pages cause when they are used, they an impression and deserve a mention evne though they aren't firearms. Also what about knives and swords? I've seen some of those as well, but I think the knife of Rambo should stay because...well, it's the knife of Rambo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== My gripe on Empty pages ==

I've been seeing a lot of new pages lately. The problem is that they are a blank! Nothing, not even a list of guns. What the fuck? I mean, a list of guns with no photos is ok, but just a fucking blank page? Do the people that do that expect someone else to do the work for them? They mind as well type down, "someone list the guns and put up pics for me cause I am lazy as fuck to even give a list." At least writing that down says something. Not just a blank.
:We all understand your pain Exy, we need a more efficient way to let the anonymous users know that if you make a page, you got to do the work. You gotta watch the language though, people will see it and think it is okay to do often. We all do it, but we don't want it done for no reason. Just ignore the empty pages, let them do the work eventually. If they don't, delete the pages. Half of them are movies I've never heard of anyway. Keep an eye out for [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]], I'll have them done this week. -GM
::What about that new member who create thirty or so new movie pages (some of which barely had one gun in them) and then never filled out any of those pages? I'm tempted to give people a little time, but for movies in which I question their relevance to this site, I'm also tempted to get rid of blank pages and let people create them when they're ready to populate them with information. MPM
:::Sorry for the foul launguage. I'm used to talking on forums where the F word is acceptable when you are pissed. Swears is culturally part of any language and sometimes it slips and I like to think we're all adults here that do use swears in real life when it is required. Anyway. Nice job on the [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]] pages. I've only done one movie that had ONE gun in it and it was [[The Forbidden Kingdom]] and even I did the work for it. I guess the anonymous users might also just be curious guys online and just hope we know what movie they are talking about, have it, and would take the time to tell them what guns are in it by doing the pages, but maybe on the main page, someone should put down rules of how to operate this site. I mean, I wanted to put a new qoute into the qoute section, but can't cause I don't know how to do it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

=="jacked" summaries"==
One thing that irks me is people 'cut and pasting' a plot summary completely from IMDB. This is not only against IMFDB rules, but if any mods from IMDB sees them, they can make an stink about it. I'm tempted to 'erase' any pirated summaries and put a note to the original writer ''"'''Write your own summary in your own words'''. It isn't too hard, even to re-arrange the sentences and replace some words to make it LOOK like you wrote it yourself. Just don't lift them word for word from another well known source. IMDB itself has a rule that you must write your own summaries and not lift them from other 3rd party sources. So does IMFDB.org. "'' Of course there are so many jacked firearm images here, this may be hypocritical. Which is why I'm working so hard to get IMFDB their own exclusive gun images. But it's one thing to upload an image of an impossible to get gun which no one has, versus taking the time to type a few sentences...
:I agree. I did the same thing with my [[Black Lagoon]] page when I got here, but I took it off mainly because I didn't see the need for a summary at the beginning of the page that is THAT long winded. People are here for the guns and if they want to know what the movie or show is about, they just look it up. I don't know, I stopped writing summaries for movies and shows long ago. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I think we don´t need summaries.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I disagree with those who think "we don't need no stinkin' summaries..." For those people who have NOT seen the movie a SHORT summaries are okay. I've put them on some of my pages, usually when I have something interesting to add. I do like them when someone puts a page for a movie so obscure that I have no idea what it's about (and I don't want to have to go hunting around the web to find out, capice?) I added summaries (and others did) for those REALLY OBSCURE East german B&W movies that are on the site. Who created those pages anyway? Like anyone's going to see Black and white German language communist era DDR movies .... oh well. I can always start creating pages for the cinema of 1930s Lithuania! hahahaha. But having no summary for SOME of the pages sucks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I found some summaries to stick out too much. Maybe a sentence or two to just give the jist, or a catch phrase like, but really I don't do summaries anymore. But I'll think about it for the anime ones simply cause some of them are harder to find or most people wouldn't have interests in them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

==Leaving your sign==
If you want people to know who you are when you write things on pages and discussion boards, put four ~ symbols after your message. Your user name and time/date are automatically shown. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 20:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

:See?

:: What he said. ;)
::: I agree wholeheartedly ...
::::Yes. Just yes. --Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== Should we have templates? ==

Like in Wikipedia?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

It WOULD make this site a bit more...colorful than the standard white background, but if it's too much work, then it's up to whoever really runs this place.

:In all honesty, what this site needs most of all is cross-referencing of some kind, so that if somebody enters the name of a gun in one page, it shows up on another. It's a downfall of Wikis in general, and this one in particular. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

==Views==

Is there a way how I could check how many people viewed may page like on the home page the top 5 articles says how many people have viewed are page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 01:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== How do i replace a image? ==

How do i replace a image?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Updating ==

Can someone please update or add pictures to these listed pages:

*3000 miles to Graceland

*Blue streak

*The Mask

*Snatch

:The Mask and Snatch are on my to-do list. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== music videos ==

should be included on the site...i want to know the guns used in protest the hero's video for blindfolds aside...if anyone knows, please share, or at least where i can find out

== main page movies ==

What exactly is the criteria for a film to be featured on the main page? I was thinking of submitting some (unless there are already enough as it is). - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Popular, critically aclaimed (but gun heavy I guess, something that wins 9 oscars but has three guns isn't a good idea), and it should have a decent amount of guns on it (like 15-20 seems about right).

== Too many screencaps!!! ==

I'm getting a bit frustrated w/the amount of screencaps we're loading up. Is there any way we can limit the number? The pages are becoming much too long & scrolling takes forever. I know Wikis are not democracies so a vote would be out of the question but can we all please stop indulging our screecap skills by putting ALL our favorite stills from these films up & just have about 2-3 images per firearm? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 20:14, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:At least for the front page I have to agree - the loading is taking way too long. I'm going to disable the featured page for a while and see how it goes. I can't afford to upgrade the server at the moment to handle the huge load. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

::Can this be done on individual pages too? Take a look at the page for Shoot 'em Up for instance, seems like everyone just had to throw their favorite frame in there. Also, the Quick & the Dead is pretty bad too... Also, would it be bad in etiquette to go into pages & start cutting out images that are repetitive or unnecessary? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 18:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse the language but FUCK YOU. And if you start removing my screencaps I'll be sure to remove ''you'' from the site. (sorry about the outburst but it is very rude to blatantly bash my hard work and contributions to this site, and it pisses me off gravely) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::No one was bashing the hard work or contributions. Don't confuse legitimate criticism with a personal attack, and your response back was a personal attack and beneath you, especially the fine responses you usually write (and the fact that you're a MOD now). I hope you eventually understand that I also mean no disrespect as well. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

GM's comment aside I'm all for detailed screencaps. Heck I'm going to be trying to collect a bunch for myself. Unfortunantly the interesting films I have are VHS. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

:He's got a point though. I dont want to be rude, but when every single time the certain gun is shown, it doesnt really need a picture. 5 tops is ok. GM, you are very nortorious for 13-14 pictures of the same gun. i can understand showing cycling misfeeds/changes in guns, but on the Punisher page, you dont really need that many pictures of Castle shooting Spoon and Dante. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
::You shouldn't have to apologize. The members who seem to LOVE tons of screencaps take it personally, like you're attacking THEM, not the decision to display endless screenshots of guns. I think when they think about it, they may realize that no one is trying to be insulting. When I screencap, I edit the pictures. Sure I might have 14 shots, but I choose the best couple and cull the rest. I don't feel compelled to force everyone to look at every since solitary screenshot, just because I took the time to do them. Just like a writer or artist, you must have the maturity to cut out what is excess, even though at the time it sucks to cut out stuff you like. Looks like some of the new (i.e. young also) members are trying to outdo the record for ridiculous screencaps. [[We Were Soldiers]] is now a page that I no longer like to look at, now that I have to scroll down for ten minutes to see the next section. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== how do i screencap ==

i have many films, games exc that i want to screencap. please can someone tell me how to?
:You need a DVD-rom drive on your computer. Play the movie on a DVD player with a screencapture function. The images will be saved to a folder. Cut off any widescreen or full screen bars and convert the image to a JPG so it can be placed here. You'll need a photo editor such as Corel Photoshop or even Paintshop. Then go to the Upload file section and upload them on the site. Copy the picture's linkage (will say something like "Image:name.jpg") then put the image in double brackets [[]] and paste the linkage. now you'd take this image and write it like this:

(double bracket)Image:name.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Comment.(double bracket)

Look at some other pages to see this in use. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

You can actually screencap with any Windows computer, very easily. Just use the Print Screen button and paste it into whatever program you want; you can then crop out the interface and whatnot. You can also use Print Screen + Alt so that you only get what's inside the window instead of everything (I think PrtScn + Alt is what you want.

[[Special:Contributions/72.189.150.170|72.189.150.170]]

==Should this picture be on the M16 Page?==
hahahaha. The CHAMPION of customization in the history of firearms! .....
[[Image:74ea0f45a31c.gif]]

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
:Oh hell yea! that looks awesome! [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
::Looks like that GIF took a lot of work to make... Awesome though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::That would be perfect for the M16 page, so definitely yes!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Well where on the page should this be on? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

:Interesting enough I don't see this thing transform into an M16A1 or A2
::M16A1 is dead and gone. the a2 series is the new and improved. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

Slow it down a touch and it's perfect! And to satisfy those who are sticklers about accuracy: split the animation into "A1" and "A2" animations (one for each M16 variant).
EDIT: Isn't there a silencer for it? Counter-Strike says so...
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

How awesome is that AR-15 builder, just love doing it for the hell of it.

== Grammar/Spelling ==
-
- Hello gentlemen. First off I just want to start of by telling you guys how much I enjoy this site. Anyhow, I come visiting from IMCDb (Internet Movie Car Database). I'm an administrator over there and given my interest in weapons and the similarity between the two sites, I've taken an interest in visiting your site. However, I've noticed a problem that I wanted to bring up to your guys' attention. Often times there are grammar and spelling mistakes and I think that it is something that you guys can improve upon a bit more. I don't mean to sound like I'm criticizing or I'm calling anybody stupid or anything, but it's things like that that could make the site look cleaner and more appealing. And yes, I do understand that english may not be the first language for some of the posters here. My point is that I'm just giving some friendly advice from who I'd like to think of as someone from a "sister" site. Thanks gents...keep up the great work.

:: We have tons of contributors who aren't even old enough to shave yet. Does that tell you anything? GM45 once described it as a small group of Mods/ Super users fighting against the cresting tide of the ocean, or something to that effect. :) An apt metaphor. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

:::Hi, I am a fan of IMCDB myself (it was where I learned all about how M1 Abrams tanks in Hollywood are mocked-up Centurions). I do appreciate your concerns about grammar/spelling and agree with you that it needs to be addressed. However, being that (unlike IMCDB) we are a Wiki open for all to edit, it's somewhat inevitable that this will be an issue. I appreciate the fact that this is less of an issue with IMCDB due to the format of the site, and at times, I wish we could integrate elements of IMCDB into this site to standardize things a bit (I still get annoyed when I see people who call a Beretta 92F a "Berretta M92F" even though it says at the top of the page that this is not the correct spelling). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Fellas, I greatly appreciate the response. I understand the situation with your site and we ourselves deal with some of the same issues, as far as having younger members whose grammar and knowledge isn't exactly ideal. But thanks a lot for the response. And as I said earlier, keep up the good work.

:::::Thanks. We also have foreign contributors who don't have that great of a grasp of English. We also have guys who just don't know how to spell. One of my buddies who is a combat vet, former 82nd Airborne, types like a two year old on his computer. I jokingly say that I have to create a special filter for Babelfish to decypher what he is typing! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

===Our own movie===
I was thinkin'. We've got a lot of people on this site, a lot of them are very talented, we could probably make our own movie someday. I know a good script writer with an idea already mostly-formed, maybe imfdb should have a meet up and make a movie. We could probably all pool our resources and make an awesome one. Just a whimsical fantasy...-protoAuthor
:A movie based on a website? What the fuck? That won't work. I am sorry but, that just won't work.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, I mean we all pitch together and make an action movie. Not based on the website, but the website has the people and resources. As in, a community effort. -protoAuthor
:::That would be cool if only the movie we make is a cheesy action movie in the same vein as Commando, then we can do it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::::hahahahaha, uh no. :) Some of us actually work in the movie industry and it's not easy to make a movie, even a crappy backyard effort one with a video camera bought from Walmart. You're right, it's a whimsical fantasy, but you need a TON of talented people who know what they are doing in ALL of the positions of a film production. Not just armorers but you need everyone, a good script, good actors, a good director, a good producer (which amazingly is really hard since the producer is supposed to be a manager, NOT someone who micro manages the work by everyone else), a good crew, skilled camera operators, good cameras, pro lighting gear and a good DP or cinematographer. Oh did I mention TONS of $$ (you could spend a fortune just feeding the crew and paying for insurance and permits - salaries not withstanding). Wait, you also need office staff, pre production staff and post production staff and facilities (digital capture, color correcting, editing, sound engineering and editing) and then where are you going to sell it? You need marketing, posters, ads, trailers, a website, the list goes on and on. No I'm not making fun of your comment. It was funny and just that, fantasizing, but I know you are just throwing this bit out there and are not serious. Because it's akin to someone saying "hey let's stage our own high orbit launch of a satellite, all we need is ....." :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm currently working on an amatuer backyard crap job now, and it is actually turning out quite well. We don't have tons of money but we can fund things like fake blood, spare t-shirts (to cover in fake blood), and blanks. As for lighting, so far everything has been working well for us. We actually have enough filmed now that I'm confident this will be a good movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Help with VLC ==
I need help with my VLC Media Program. When i screencap movies the program screencaps like normal, but when i upload my images to IMFDB the images stay like this:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-252103Mk2.jpg|thumb|none|512px|Charlie Sheen in [[Platoon]]. <s>The Problem here is that even when the screencap is in 1200x configuration, the screencap is still away too small.</s> Fixed!]]
:Can Anyone help me with this?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:I don't have that problem, but I'm checking out the settings to see what might cause it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

::I imagine you've got this sorted by now, but it's because you missed the letter "p." It's "px" as in "pixel," not "x" as in "times." And that still won't make it larger than the image itself is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Discussions on Articles==

I love this site, I have wasted many hours just browsing the wonderful collection of articles. My only qualm is some users feel that the article pages are also discussion pages to argue the validity of someone's addition. There is nothing that irks me more that when i am reading about a movie and then it becomes some kind of forum. I think this should be regulated to make the site more professional.

:We try to regulate it and throw those discussions on the discussion pages of articles but there are still some users that discuss on the articles.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

::I agree, that has been a thorn in my side too. Nothing worse than to go to the trouble of creating a thorough, tidy-looking article only for people to clutter it up with chatter and arguements that should be saved for the article's talk page. that 'discussion' tab is up there for a reason, people! [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

:::I couldn't agree more, it turns me off when I'm going through a neat looking page, and then come across a bunch of comments and arguments. If we could just get into the habit of using the talk page for these arguments, then we'll be more obligated to use them more often.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== This video ==

Have any of you lazy sons-of-bitches seen this video:
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3FFThpkyg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3FFThpkyg]

It's fucking awesome let me tell you. And no, i'm not spamming links just watch the video. It's about us!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:That's been out for a while now; take a look at some of those old gun pics on there, like the long since replaced M16A1/M203 with the 20-round mag. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::I know but i never seen it. It's really funny.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately some our members are a bit too thin skinned. This guy wasn't being insulting. He was intentionally obnoxious trying to be a 'showman'. Some guys "telling him to fuck off" in the comments makes us look a bit immature. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== How? ==
how do i create my own page to say what my favourite weapons and movies are and what contributions i have made? please can someone tell me.
:You have to register first and, contribute to this site. Bye!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
i'd hate to sound like an idiot but i've just done that (register and contribute) now what do i do?
:On the upper right corner of your screen there is an panel with thing about your username. Press the one with your name on it and write on it. Also, when editing, there will be an link with "Editing Help". Click it and read it. Now you know how to edit. Yay! Also, put four ~ after any of your messages. That way, you will sign you messages and people will know who you are.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Movie Article Request "Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow" ==

There are many guns, but I request this mostly for a big mistake in it. When Sky Captain is running on a log with a Colt 1911 (silver) in hand and drops it, the computer rendering shows a revolver of some sort. It is probably the same as the one in the scene where Sky Captain is at his desk and the reporter comes in, and he stops her at gunpoint.

Sorry if I was vague, but my memory's a little fuzzy.
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:I actually own that film and I ''could'' screencap it ,but I effing hate that movie. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:34, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

:Is it really that bad? It looked like it sucked, but I wasn't sure-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

::It's just really corny. It tries to capture the feel of movies made in the 20's or whenever the hell the movie's suppose to take place, but it is just super, super, super, corny. If it was intentionally corny, it would be funny. But it's not and that's what makes it bad. The only redeeming part is that Angelina Jolie is in it. Unfortunately, she's always in a uniform and has a patch over one eye, so it's not really worth it in the end. The dues ex Machina near the end doesn't help, or the fact that the female lead is the type of person that would push a button for no other reason then it says "DO NOT PUSH". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 21:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== How do I ==

get pictures on a page? not screencaps but an actor holding a gun in a movie?

You know I've been trying to figure that one out myself for my users page and can't seem to upload pictures of my favourite guns or actors/actresses. Help will be greatly appreciated--[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] 16:41, 11 March 2011 (MSK)

== Fixed Width 1000px ==

I'm working on making the front page a fixed width design... let me play with the ads and featured articles for a couple days. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

:Created a new template for featured articles, you can play with it at [[Template:FeaturedArticle]]. I've currently only added 3:10 to Yuma and Live Free or Die Hard - feel free to add more. [[User:Bunni|bunni]]

==Random screencap==
Is there any chance of bringing this feature back? I liked looking at the different screenshots. [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 11 Oct 2009
::Do you prefer having the site crash more often than not, for this little inconvenience?

== I need help with a Link problem ==

I started a State of Grace page, which shows up when entered in the search box, but when I went to add the info from the movie to the actors pages the link back to State of Grace is said to be deleted. Like when I went to the Sean Penn page and entered what pistol he used and entered State of Grace, when I click on State of Grace it brings to a page that says:

'''Warning: You are recreating a page that was previously deleted.'''

You should consider whether it is appropriate to continue editing this page. The deletion log for this page is provided here for convenience:
• 18:32, 15 April 2009 Gunmaster45 (Talk | contribs) deleted ''"State of Grace" ‎ (content before blanking was: 'This excellent movie starred Sean Penn, Ed Harris, and Gary Oldman. Penn, an undercover cop infiltrating the Irish mob in NYC carried a Smith 6906 in .9mm with a Ruger SP101 backup gun. Gary Oldman, a thug, carried ...')''

Does this mean I need to copy and paste all the work I did into that deleted page? Searching for the movie from the search box will bring you to the page I created from scratch, but the link from the actors pages brings you to that notice of an old deleted page. Can anyone help? --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 03:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

There was a small difference in titles between the link and the page you created. The link was State of Grace and the title of your page was State Of Grace, so that's why it didn't link. I made a redirect on the previously deleted page so it should work now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Movies Page ==

I don't know if anyone has noticed but in the movies page King Kong (1933) is listed under B and there's no entry for it under K. Reason I'm saying this is because I guess only admins can edit category pages? because nothing pops up when I click edit.-[[User:Shooter2|Shooter2]]

::I fixed it. Someone put B&W in the same Category line as "movie". YOu put the categories in separate lines. WHen you put B&W in the same line, it thinks that you want the movie categorized in the "B" category [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

== Do a page on Pavement ==

Can someone please do a page on a movie called Pavement that stars Robert Patrick and Lauren Holly filmed in 2002. I was interested the weapons SWAT used and was pretty sure at one point even though she hadn't fired her weapon while clearing a house the top slide of her sidearm was locked back. I'd do it myself but I don't know where to find this movie as I saw it on TV one night and haven't done it before so wouldn't know how to make a page. Cheers
:Pavement was filmed in South Africa, even though the story is set in San Francisco. Funny how San Francisco, suddenly looks like the scenes from District 9? Lauren Holly used a Vektor CP1 pistol, and yes, she pops out and her slide is open, but it looks like she fired and the editor removed the sequence of her firing, wanting instead for the crazy dude to force her to withdraw by firing his shotgun first. It was an editorial decision that screwed up what was already filmed. The SWAT team used South African R4s, Vektor CR21s, some dummy SIG 550s and one M16A1(probably a replica). The weapons are what one expects from a South African production. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

== Actor's Pages ==

I see that a lot of the actor pages are being converted to the "table" format, but I don't know if it's clear what should be in the first category. Should the guns be placed first before what movie the actor used them in? I would prefer it this way, because it's easier to read that way. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
::You're right in pointing this out. I see NEW MEMBERS are changing the order in the tables on the ACTOR pages. Traditionally it's been WEAPON, then CHARACTER, then MOVIE TITLE, then notes. That format was chosen because it flows like a 'sentence'. I.e. John Doe has used the following ...... a [[Beretta 92FS]] as Krusty A. Clown in ''Attack of the Killer Cartoons'' (note), (year). WE should formalize a format and then institute it in the rules. Thanks for pointing this out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Request ==

can someone do Wrongfully Accused with Leslie Nielsen. the reason I ask is because there is a strange LMG version of an M134 in it, and i would like to know what the hell it is, and if it is real.

== A question ==

So, this wiki has articles about video games, anime and animated films which are either 3d representations or drawings of guns. So why are stop-motion films, and other animation of this kind not allowed here? Why are they an exception?
::That answer is in the rules. The representations of guns are crude and not appropriate to waste IMFDB resources on. We haven't even covered the majority of our CORE genres (Films, Television shows, Anime & VG). And many of our pages are very incomplete or lame. So we tend to discourage new members from trying to introduce even MORE genres for us to cover. That and in those genres the guns are too crude to be listed as anything in particular. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Question: Live fire in movies ==

Hi, first of all, please excuse my English, I am not a native speaker. Secondly, please excuse I aks my question here although I know it is not the proper place for this, but I found no forum in this wiki. So here is my question:

When filming the German movie ''Spione'' (''Spys'', but there never was an English version) in 1928, there was live gun firing because they could not simulate it with special effects (1928), and the gun in the scene in question was fired in the direction of one of the actors. Strangely enough this caused a furor only because filming the scene was repeated several times by the director, who was was the lover of the actress in the scene, but it seems there was no talking about the live firing of a gun in a movie ''per se'' at all. So was using live fire in movies normal in a time they could not use special effects? Are there more films in which they used live fire instead of special effects? Thanks, Gustav

==[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imfdb IMFBD Wikipeda Page]==
It's been put up for speedy deletion. Could better writers than me go explain why it shouldn't? -[[User:JonathanDP|JonathanDP]] 18:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:I'm not sure I could myself. I mean, a Wikipedia article about another Wiki? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Too late, it's already gone. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Dude, there're many wikipedia articles on other wikis. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wikis Don't believe me?]--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 23:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I was actually the one who wrote that article (Rockmandrum on Wikipedia). I wrote that article because there are also different databases such as the IMCFD (Internet Adult Film Database) and I thought IMFDB should go there as it's a database, but my article got tagged for the lack of sources though there are some sources out there. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

==Featured Quotes question...==

I dunno who is in charge of the featured quotes section, but I'd like to know. Can we, the registered users, propose new ideas of featured quotes? 'Cause I got a few, and I'm sure other guys have 'em too. [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:45 March 7, 2010 (UTC)

== Quote suggestions ==

You might want to make your suggestions in the discussion section of the [[Template:Quote]] page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

==Page that can't be edited==

Seems that the [[Ga-rei: Zero]] page can't be edited. There a problem with this or should it be just deleted instead to start all over? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 20:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Just Cause 2==
Hey guys. I know the first Just Cause had no realistic weapons, but that changes with JC2. So far even from the demo I've made out a Desert Eagle, M4-type rifle, MP5/UMP cross, and an M136 AT4. If anyone could screencap the game, I'd gladly do descriptions and the rest. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

==Hi there==
New member here. Just wanted to drop a line. awesome site! Some pics I recognize off the net. Just a question. where do you get the great gun pictures from? I used to use Security arms and Guns of the world for reference but you guys have some of the best pics I've seen, including some that I have never seen anywhere else. If you license from some stock photo site, please let me know. I would be interested in getting access to their image library! :) Kyle

-For the most part pictures that are used are from MoviePropMaster2008, he is IMFDB's armorer, he has a lot of the pics of weapons on white backgrounds that you see. Many from movies they helped with. However, he doesn't have all of them. Just check for the picture you are looking before uploading any of your own. --[[User:Camden Hennis|Camden Hennis]] 16:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Director's Pages ==

If I've seen a page on the site like Hurt Locker or Face/Off or even Heat, I might like to know what other films the director has done, so I think the pages are helpful in that respect. Judging by the amount of pages we have for actors who have maybe used or carried a gun once, compared to how many directors pages we have, I don't think you're saving that much on space. Also, if you're looking to make this site a really good reference site, omitting these pages just doesn't make sense. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

- Well, next thing you know, we'll include pages/categories for Producers, Production designers, etc. There's only so much this place needs to put on here. There's already an 'Internet Movie DataBase' that has all that other stuff. Like MPM said on another page - Putting a bunch of emphasis on what directors/actors/etc did what takes away from the primary focus of the site, which is to display and discuss the firearms and info directly relating to them. The actors are only here because they're the ones actually seen in movies handling the firearms, but anything other than that I feel would just be too much. If you want to find out about Directors and the like, again, there's IMDB as well as other sites on the internet for that. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Franchise pages ==

Like director pages, can we make pages for particular game franchises, like all of the Call of Duty games or all the Medal of Honor games? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:21, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

- You mean like list pages, like we have for movie franchises, film genres and such? If so, that would be fine, would make reference/look-up of a particular title in a series easier. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

:No, unless the franchises have tons of titles that are completely different. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out all of the games titled "Call of Duty" or Medal of Honor" belong to a certain series of games. And I have not seen a surge of titles that OMIT the franchise identifiers like a new title that is officially a part of the Call of Duty series that doesn't have 'Call of Duty' in the title. Unless that happens, the franchise identifiers are NOT NECESSARY and add to the overall clutter that IMFDB is trying to avoid. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::I was just talking about the really big franchises, and I guess it'd only apply to the CoD and MoH series. There are a DOZEN games in each series, several of which I've never even heard of. Users here are obviously fans, given how detailed the pages are and the length of the discussion pages. Maybe a chronological listing? Or a glorified disambiguation page? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::There should be a ''see also'' addition to the pages, however, a glorified disambiguation page is not a bad idea. But the pages STILL need a 'see also' section at the bottom of the page that is complete. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Organizing firearms by type ==

I'm just organizing some pages. [[Heat]] , [[Ronin]] , [[McQ]], [[Public Enemies]] , [[Reign of Fire]] and so forth. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. Just wanted to get that out there so nobody sends me hate mail. I'm not messing with anybody's hard work. Just helping to organize. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

- I took a gander at those pages, I actually like the grouped-together firearms, again, makes reference on the contents of a page easier. Especially if a page has a lot of guns that can be grouped under said categories like those pages.

Although some people like doing the pages by chronological appearance of the firearms (T2, as well as my own page, [[Nothing But Trouble]], for instance) but those pages either don't have a lot of guns or are very diverse.

But in pages where there are a lot of guns that can be grouped under some general types (Pistols, SMGs, Shotguns, Assault Rifles, etc) I think it helps. I've certainly seen some pages re-organized as such and it helped. I won't say it's the thing to do for ALL pages, but many would benefit from it. Just my thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm doing it to the pages that I created and a few pages with many many firearms like [[Heat]]. But I want to do it slowly. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Made for TV movies ==

What's the ruling on made for TV movies? I've seen them go either ways on this site. Dirty Dozen: the Next Mission is listed as a movie, while Lost Battalion is listed as TV, despite both being made for TV movies. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::'''What are you talking about? The Lost Battalion is not listed that way'''. For the record, made for TV Movies (or as called in Hollywood MOW for "Movie of the Week" as the major networks used to do, are listed as movies. They are not episodic series or Mini-series. If the entire thing is shown in a single showing then it's a movie. These made for TV movies are sometimes theatrically released overseas, and many of them are released on video/DVD as movies. Anyway that's the rule and I still don't see any violation of that rule. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I was referring to the weapons pages that link to it. For example, the M1917 pistol and rifle pages both have Lost Battalion under Television, while the M1911 and Chauchat entries have it under Film. And others not at all. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Well that's an error on those gun pages. If you see errors like that, which I am sure there are plenty of on IMFDB, please fix them when you see them. There is a LOT of breaks in cross indexing. I've long berated members for creating pages and NOT cross indexing them to actors and gun pages. And with new members creating new pages every other hour or so, the problem is just going to get bigger. All IMFDB members should try to fix cross indexing errors when they see them. Heck, there are pages I've made that I forgot to cross index some of the weapons entries on. But we must be vigilant and try to keep IMFDB accurate and up to date as possible. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

== The Last Hunt ==

Hi it's been a while since I've seen this but I remember Robert Taylor using a massive Winchester rifle. I was wondering if this was a Model 1886 since he was hunting buffalo with it and it used a .45-90 bullet.

I've seen a Model '86 Winchester rifle in the Monte Walsh remake and in a recent episode of Pawn Stars and they didn't really look as big as Robert Taylor's. I was just wondering if anyone knew if it was an '86 or maybe something else.

==Gun-releated quotes on actor/actress page==
I thought of an idea while looking at the quotes section: how about some quotes said by an actor/actress can go on their page? For example, Al Pacino's quote, "Say hello to my little friend," from [[Scarface]] can also go on his page, too. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

== Screen Used movie firearms ==

I have recently been searching the website for weapons which were pictures of actual movie firearms, example being weapons in Quentin Tarantino films.
if anyone could list some films for me that would be great. These are some of the ones i have already found:

*[[Scarface]]
*[[Pulp Fiction]]
*[[Reservoir Dogs]]
*[[True Romance]]
*[[Jackie Brown]]
*[[Lethal Weapon]] series
*[[Die Hard]] series
*[[Predator]]
*[[The Untouchables]]
*[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]
*[[The Spirit]]
*[[Lord of War]]
*[[Beverly Hills Cop]]
*[[We Were Soldiers]]
*[[Tightrope]]
*[[The Enforcer]]
*[[The Dead Pool]]
*[[Dirty Harry]] - no S&W 29 unfortunately
*[[The Quick and the Dead]]
*[[Man on Fire]]
*[[Miami Vice - Season 3]]
*[[The Getaway (1972)]]
*[[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]]
*[[The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean]]
*[[Machete]]
*[[Fair Game]]
*[[Ghosts of Mars]]
*[[Wild Wild West]]
*[[S.W.A.T. (2003)]]
*[[Collateral]]
*[[Hidalgo]]
*[[Appaloosa]]
That's all I could think of, for now, also many have the pics on the site may not say they were used in a certain film, but a lot of them are movie guns.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

:::(a) Thank you. :) You're actually just chronicling my work for the site. 90% of the screen used photos I shot exclusively for IMFDB and I kinda wondered myself just how many titles I've covered. (b) it's sad but true that many OTHER gun pics are of guns that I'm certain have appeared in stuff, but unless record have been checked and verified, it can't be said with any sort of certainty. So we have TONS more movie used weapons than not in photographs. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:We also have several guns from ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. At some point, I think we need to make a page with all of the screen-used movie guns that MoviePropmaster has photographed for us. And then I also need to make a page with the gun pictures that my contact at ISS sent me. There are a lot of them on this site. Of course, there are also some that we've taken from other sites (like YourProps and PropStore), but I'd probably just put the gun pictures that are IMFDB exclusives. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::That seems like a good idea MT.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

[[Book of Eli, The]] has that kind of stuff on its page and [[The Unit]] as well, if you want to be hardcore about it. [[Spades of Columbia]]

== Missing firearm (The Peacemaker) ==
Just got done watching this movie & there is a scene between the Russian General & one of the bad guys in the back of the truck (about 1 hour 15 minutes in) & I'm sure the gun that the General threatens him with is a Steyr GB pistol, he also uses it to shoot at the approaching helicopters, could someone else confirm this & update the page?

== Empty firearm ==
In some films you see that when a gun is fired, the chamber clicks empty but the slide doesn't lock back and I was just curious as to how they manage to do that?
:If it's showcased in a film, then it was intentional. Many directors who are unfamiliar with guns will use that action to indicate that a gun is empty.
:'''''Scene:''' Bad guy points pistol at face of good guy. It is a Beretta 92FS. He pulls the trigger dramatically. "click" nothing happens. Bad guy has panicked look on his face. "Click" "Click"! as he continues to pull the trigger. "Aha!" yells the hero as he swats away the empty gun and punches the bad guy in the face.'' DOH!
:It's done via editing. I seriously doubt most directors would end a gunfight with the phenomenon of a dud round (though dud rounds have appeared in the storylines of some shows). Or a bad primer. Or a worn or damaged magazine which does not engaged the slide lock. Or a worn or damaged slide. But seriously, anyone who fires a gun can pretty much tell when it's empty and devoid of rounds, unless it's not their gun and they're completely unfamiliar with it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Bad magazines...its not the desired option on semi-autos.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== glock variants ==
i just wondered, is a Glock 19 the same as a Glock 23 with the exeption of the caliber?

Yes

==Main Page error==
Has anyone ever gotten this error before? This happened to me many times. During this error, I cannot go to any pages unless there are links on a page and I'm logged out and I can't log in. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Mainpageerror.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

: I have had this happen to me, too. I am running up to date Firefox. It´s a rather odd error, really. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:I've encountered it as well. I usually run IE as my browser, and it sometimes carries on when I go through Google Chrome too. Tends to be accompanied with a fair amount of lag as well when it occurs. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:26, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

:I've never had this error before, but I only update or run programs if I have to. It's running on bare bones only. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 20:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

- I had this error as well Friday evening (running FireFox), but as we had a badass lightning storm that probably played havoc with the signal, that ain't too surprising (Lag/connection issue, like Orca alluded to). But I can't speak for you other guys, though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Page Format Change? ==

I recently noticed that the page justification seems to be locked down, making actor pages with the table format seem particularly squashed if there's a lot of information. Is there a reason for this? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Here's an example:
[[Image:Actor Page Format.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Before, the page would stretch down to fill out the entire screen, but now it seems to stop in the middle.

:- I also have that same issue, though my screen hasn't lost that much, in which case I'd say it's locked at a particular resolution (1024 I'd have to figure, based upon my own display res). Not to mention it's also present here on this talk page and other pages as well. I too wonder what that's all about. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 13:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

::Might be for the upcoming ad test on IMFDB. will have to wait and see. If that is the case the we will have to change the layout on the pages to something more standard.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 16:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
==best guns for an assassin==
what would be the best guns for an assassin????
:That would depend on the situation he's in. Is the the assassin shooting from a distance? Sniper rifle then. In a place where there are other people around that could hear a gunshot. Suppressed small caliber handgun. You should also remember there is a million and one ways to kill someone. A gun is just one of tools to use.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Choice guns for an assassin:

-H&K USP
-H&K Mk. 23
-Any Glock models
-Agent 47's AMT Hardballers
-Walther P99
-Walther PP or PPK
-FN FNP-45 or FNP-49
-FN Five-Seven
-Colt M1911
-Para-Ordinance P14-45 or P18.9
-Kimber Warrior
-Colt M1911 or Variants
-Beretta 92, 81, or 84
-Browning Hi-Powered
-Ruger Mk. II (Best Bet)
-Browning BDA
-Luger Or High-Standard if your old-school
-Makarov
-SIG P220, P226, P228, P229
-Steyr M9 or GB
-These are some of my personal choices, feel free to comment.
I understand that, but I was looking for something more precise, like in "Assassins" they make a big deal about using those Ruger .22, but in "Collateral" the hitman uses a H&K .45 (well, he also use a Ruger .22), in "The Replacement Killer" the killer is into Berettas 92f, but what would be the perfect gun for a profesional, smart and effective assassin??????

It's hard to say if their is a "perfect" assassin's weapon because people will always have opinions, but the Ruger Mk. 2 is definitely a Top 5, look up a video of a supressed Mk. 2 and you'll see what I mean. I would have to say that either a .380 or .32 pistol for stealth but .45 or 9mm for power. [[Czar]]

:In films like you mention, it's going to depend on what the writer or director chose to use. (Whether it was the ideal choice is another matter.) In Collateral he uses the H&K for the most part because noise isn't an issue and the .45 is a good round. He uses Ruger .22 only when in a restaurant. In the nightclub there's lots of people around, but he could get out with the crowd. The target also had several bodyguards. In the Replacement Killers the 92F was most likely chosen because Chow Yun-Fat used them in his prior films and knew how to handle them. There is no one gun that is the "perfect gun for a professional, smart and effective assassin." Since you're talking handgun distances there's too many good guns to choose from. Go with whatever you feel like in your story (I guess and hope that's the reason why you asked). If I had to choose I'd go with the 1911. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 12:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Agent 47 all the way, AMT Hardballers with optional longslide and supressor. More seriously, I guess a pistol like a Hi-Power or a Beretta 92 with a supressor would be good for closer range killings. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 14:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank ypu guys, Predator, I'm a scriptwritter, I don't own a gun and I don't want to kill anyone, so don't worry. I just like good assassins in movies, what about a H6K p7m8?????, It's such a compact gun for a 9mm, I always thought it was kind like a tactic gun, isn't it????? why Swat teams are into Kimbers?????
:Do you not speak English or are you just a kid? You grammar is terrible and with some many question marks at the end of your sentence, you must be a 12 year old or someone under 15. Also, it's very simple why SWAT like Kimbers, they like 1911s in general for its reliability. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:12, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Excalibur, English is not my first language, so I'm sorry that my grammar is so terrible, but I'm glad that the people here know what I mean, and BTW I'm 30 years old, not 12 or 15....

You can't errase the serial number of a Glock, so that make it a bad choice for an assasin, what do you people think????

Still thinking in the perfect gun for an profesional assassin (don't worry, I'm a scriptwriter, I don't own a gun and never shotted anything). Now I'm thinking that a 9mm compact is a good option, but it have to be alloy, steel or metal frame, not polymer, so you can errase the serial numbers, high mag capacity and it have to be in production. What would you recomend? I will love it to be a H&K P7M13, that is the perfect gun, a beauty, but is not currently under production and it will impossible to get a "clean" one. (Lenny)

== Listverse.com ==
Here's a cool little list I found on The List Universe.com about the 10 greatest firearms in history.

http://listverse.com/2009/10/07/top-10-greatest-firearms-in-history/

not such a good list IMO. Where is the Sturmgewher 44? Basically started the assault rifle revolution? The Winchester M1873 (they didn't call it the gun that won the west for nothing) sure the Henry was first, but the Winchester set the standard. [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 06:12, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

well, they can only fit ten in. [[User:jackbel]]

heres another one I found on that site: 10 greatest firearm designers.--[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 02:24, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

http://listverse.com/2010/05/23/top-10-greatest-firearms-designers/

== This is ridiculous...==
anybody else think that the amount of pages slated for deletion is absolutely absurd and unneccesary?

We're cleaning out the pages that are either not good enough or not supposed to be on the wiki. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 22:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I am only restoring some of the pages that look like there was some work put into them. These can still be deleted, but I just want make sure that's what the consensus is. This is probably going to be discussed in the forum. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:06, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

: I made a note about the 'Documentary' matter in the discussion for the [[Mail Call]] page earlier. In any case, I'm sure the admins will let us know what will happen about all that in due course. Other than that, almost all the other pages slated for deletion are piss-poor pages that should indeed be in the Delete category. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

== Reviewguy/girl ==
So, did the search pay off? Do we have our own movie reviewer? What's the deal anyways? Just curious :)--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 20:46, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

:- I almost forgot about that.. Well, indeed, what of it? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:: Are we gonna get a section for film reviews? If so, are the reviews gonna be the "normal" kind (what we see in the papers, tv, etc.) or are the reviews gonna emphasize gun use/usage in films?

== A Question ==
How do I submit a quote from a movie so it will appear on the Featured quotes section? [[User:jackbel]]

: Go [[Template:Quote|here]] and simply edit it in according to the template. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

well, how do you submit screencaps to the featured movies section? [[User:jackbel]]

: [[Template:FeaturedArticle|Click]]. Add it according to the template. If you are unsure of how it will look, try it out on the discussion page first. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 09:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== Most Popular Gun? ==

I can't believe this hasn't been asked. So, Lets hear your views.

:- The top most viewed gun page on the site is the [[M1911 pistol series]] ‎(526,596 views), followed by the [[M16 rifle series]] ‎(420,778 views). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I actually meant popular by appearances. I've found out though [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:MostImages here] that it's the Beretta 92FS. Strange how the Annihilator 2000 is 2nd though?!

:That's because it is the icon that appears in the banner at the top of a page that is incomplete.--[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 11:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:: Indeed, by the 'Linked most' attribute, the Annihilator image stat is misleading - Exclude the pages with the Incomplete template and it is certainly NOT the second most used gun image. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:10, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== An urgent notice ==

If you see something that is wrong, PLEASE don't just say so, CHANGE it yourself.--[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 05:14, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Uh, I'm afraid that statement is a bit ambiguous and potentially misleading. We all have our own opinion on what we see is 'wrong' on a page, and based on my own personal experience, you ''don't'' make changes based solely on that. I believe what Jackbel means is that if you see something that you are ''certain'' is wrong/incorrect on a page, especially spoilers, spelling/format errors, obviously false information, or anything of that particular sort, then it's probably ok to change that. ''Otherwise'', it is probably better to make a note in the proper discussion page about it, especially if you're not absolutely certain, as the RS&P states. Not to barge in, but I just think that needed a bit of flushing out. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, no need to get so hasty --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 20:08, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

: Sorry, I really wasn't trying to snob you man, but from what I gather, it's usually better for users to make notes and ask first about any serious or notable edits as many of the other members/admins find that less annoying than reverting bad edits - A note about that is in the RS&P. Again, not trying to snob you dude, Honest! :) [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Facebook ==

We should totally have like a "recommend" or "like" buttons on the database... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 13:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== Do firearms work in space? ==

Stupid hypothetical question, but was watching the most recent episodes of [[Stargate Universe]] and one character was carrying a [[Heckler & Koch UMP]] in a hard vacuum, zero gravity situation. This got me wondering, would unmodified firearms reliably operate in space? I can imagine recoil and blowback operated weapons working ok, but am not so sure about any gun that uses gas operation. Also, would the coldness of space cause problems for the rounds to go off, and if they did would the gun components fracture at this low a temperature (About -270 degrees Celsius for arguments sake). And then even if the gun did fire there would be the problem that it would then very quickly overheat, as there would be no air to cool it, not to mention the fact that any lubricants would either be frozen, or instantly vaporise in the vacuum. I know that there were experiments by the Russians putting a Nudelman-Rikhter NR-23 (or NR-30) cannon into space and shooting down target satellites, but has there ever been any experimentation with regular small arms? [[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 16:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

definitely not, for the same reason that there can't be any explosions in space, because fire needs oxygen and theres none of that in space.--[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 19:44, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:Not true actually, all gunpowders and the majority of explosives do not require external oxygen to detonate, as they have an oxidant as part of the composition. How do you think a torpedo explodes? Or how a rocket can work in space? [[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 22:12, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Firefly the series does a good job addressing that issue. i believe it was "Our Mrs. Reynolds".--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 21:06, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:I remember that episodes, and Jayne said Vera (his gun) needed air around her to fire, so I believe that this line was purely based on the misconception that bullets need oxygen to detonate. Or it could be that Vera is not a conventional weapon as we know it. [[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 22:12, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== The African Queen ==

Can someone do a page for [[The African Queen]] (1951)? I tried, but my DVD screwed up and I'd really like to see that film on this site. --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 19:22, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

== Not allowing PNG's ==

Someone noted that if we're discouraging uploading of PNG files, then it should be removed as an acceptable format on the upload page. This has been asked in the forum, but is there a way to do that? Is there a way to just restrict the uploading of files to just JPG's only? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:02, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

== Another question ==

Would whoever is putting screen used guns on their main page please stop? Screen used gun pictures belong in their discussion pages under "Additional Varients". --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 04:29, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

== Satchel charges ==

We've all seen these in movies or video games, or even on Mail Call with R. Lee Eremy. Designs and explosives charges vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, with field versions being cobbled together from whatever's on hand. But as far as the satchel charges built for use by the American military concerned, is there any information available on how they were made? Was there an official type of carrying bag that received a military designation and was ordered up under a governmental work contract? [[Ballistics_Expert2]]

== Colt Ad ==

haha, look at this ad for Colt from 1933 --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 22:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

:Works for me. Those prices really work for me. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

::I see someone else reads Cracked.com.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 04:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Colt ad.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

::You sure this AD is from 1933? 84 dollars for that Colt Woodsman translates into $1,390.00 in 2010 dollars. That Colt Officer's Model in .22 LR is priced $79.00 which is $1,310.00 now. Actually dollar for dollar, they are more EXPENSIVE relative to what people earned than today's prices. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:52, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I did a search in google, and I ran across two sources that say the ad is from 1939. If you run it through the inflation calculator though, the prices are still a bit high. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:42, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

== Tomorrow When the War Began ==

Hi, if possible could someone do an article on the Australian film Tomorrow When the War Began, it's pretty much the Australian version of Red Dawn but I'm not too familiar with the weapons or how to even create a page to do it myself, cheers.

The guns I saw used were the Fold stock AK-47's, AKM's, .22 Caliber rifles, a handgun I think to be is the H&K USP, some light Machineguns and the warhead's of the RPG-7. (I'm an American-Pinoy who watched it in NZ)

==Ban a Wangchao today?==
So how many Wangchaos do we have to ban? Some spammer is up to Wangchao58. He's like Doctor Who. He doesn't die. He just comes back as yet another incarnation. You know you haven't lived unless you've banned a user named "Wangchao_ _ "[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
:i dont get to ban people. :( lol -[[User:The_Winchester|Winchester]]

==Ads now?==
Stupid question time: are the ads supposed to be here? [[User:MrOshimida27|MrOshimida27]] 00:10, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

: http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1232&page=4 --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC).

==So, two questions==

First of all, how do you upload pictures to this site, for those of us who are wiki-impaired. Secondly, I'm trying to start a page up for The Cape, that new TV series, and I wanted to know if anyone would be willing to help me, as it'll be my first page. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 02:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

: First go to the [[Special:Upload]] page. Click on "upload" and select the file you want to upload. Make sure that all images you upload are .jpgs, the .png format isn't allowed per the rules. Now, insert the name of the Film/Television Show/other Medium, that the page you are working on belongs to the Summary section like this: <nowiki>[[A-Team, The|The A-Team]]</nowiki>. Note that you can have the link display a different text than the one of the page you are linking to. The '''The A-Team''' for example is called "A-Team, The", but since that isnt exactly fun to read I used the | to put the "The" were it belongs. Then you need the appropriate category. These can be found here:[[:Category:Images]]. Insert them just like you inserted the title. Afterwards the only thing left is to upload the image. Once that is done, insert it into your page like this:

<nowiki>

[[Image:KingdomHK912.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Description]]

</nowiki>

:The first part is obviously your file name. Thumb forces the wiki to reformat it into a thumbnail of (here) 400 pixels. Instead of "right", there are also "left" and "center". But the only allowed page formatting is "left" for screenshots and "right" for the movie poster. Replace Description with an appropriate summary of the images contents. It´s also useful for inserting trivia notes and the likes.

: And as for starting your own page: Simply copy the basic layout from already existing pages and analyse what you see. [[Rules%2C_Standards_and_Principles|Rules, Standards and Principles]] also contains a lot of basic tips and guidelines that´ll help you get started. Once you feel like delving deeper into the wonders of wiki formatting: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki . I hope that helped. If you have any more questions, just put them up here on Talk:Main Page. The admins and mods usually give this place a lot of attention. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:56, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

== What caliber is this? ==

Whilst capping for the [[Red Cap]] page I came across this shot of a L85A1 being reloaded on the firing range:
[[Image:L85a1_100_2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Sgt McDonagh ([[Tamzin Outhwaite]]) reloads her rifle at the range.]]
Clearly the rounds in the magazine are neither live nor blank 5.56mm rounds, as they are rounded rather than spitzer bullets, and they are overall shorter/fatter. Also, there is some kind of spacer fitted at the front of the magazine to accommodate the shorter rounds. Regardless, the fact that it is firing a different round is bizarre to me, as have never heard of any SA80s firing anything other than 5.56mm other than a rare few converted to .22LR for training. Has anyone ever seen this type of round before, or explain why it is used in an L85A1? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 13:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== television series from 1993 ==

in 1993 there was a television show starring Nick Mancuso.
He was a hitman with all kinds of cool looking guns, and he drove a corvette.
The show was called "matrix".
i am suprised to find nothing from that show here at imfdb.

-Max

::Why are you surprised Max? (1) the show has NOT been rebroadcast with any sort of regularity. Sure I used to watch it all the time when it was on and once during a Sci Fi channel run, but I haven't seen it since. and (2) It's not out on DVD. So exactly how are we supposed to do a page on the show? I for one would love to do pages on TONS of shows, but the jerks who own the rights won't release them on DVD. :( Shame. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this show is not available on DVD. I believe that there's some clips on Youtube. Another interesting bit of trivia is that [[Carrie-Anne Moss]] was also on the show. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 06:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia on the Front Page ==

I just saw this bit of trivia on the main page today:

"... that a lot of television series substitute the M249 for visually modified Daewoo K3 machine guns? "

Shouldn't that instead read "...M249 _with_ visually modified Daewoo..."?

- Jeff
:I fixed it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 16:11, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
::Sweet deal. -Jeff

== Harrington & Richardson Pistol ==

I found this little pistol on Arundel Militaria.com, the site calls it a "Harrington & Richardson .32 Semi-Automatic Pistol", but doesn't give the exact name. Can anyone here tell me? --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 11:04, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
[[Image:Harrington & Richardson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/deactivated-guns/allied-deactivated-guns/deactivated-very-rare-harrington-richardson-32-semi-automatic-pistol/prod_969.html

:I believe it is just called a H&R Self Loading Pistol. Have seen it referred to as the "Webley Type", due to it being basically an American made version of the Webley and Scott automatic pistol. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:01, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Modern Warfare 3 ==

Just to let you guys know, www.findmakarov.com has appeared which contains a countdown, reportedly until the announcement of Modern Warfare 3 in 5 days time (Next Wednesday). --[[User:Ritch|Ritch]] 16:52, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

*It's a hoax. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 06:57, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
::It isn't a hoax, but it isn't for Modern Warfare 3. It is apparently for a "Call of Duty inspired project" from a Toronto based group called ''We Can Pretend''. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 23:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

== Sarah Palin's Alaska Shotgun? ==

What kind of shotgun was the one Sarah was shooting at the range with what I recall had a foregrip for the pump.

== Pig Hunt ==

i think this site should have a page for the 2008 movie, "Pig Hunt"

:If you want a page for it, make it yourself. This is a wiki, making pages is pretty easy if you put a little effort into it.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 04:02, 5 March 2011 (MSK)

Bullseye. Feel free to make the page.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:20, 11 March 2011 (MSK)

== Signatures ==

Not to sound stupid, but what's the (MSK) in this --> [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 06:44, 5 March 2011 (MSK) mean? It used to be (UTC) (whatever that means), and why does it say it's the 5th, It's the 4th where I am (GA). - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]]

: ''MSK'' = Moscow Standard Time.'' UTC'' = Coordinated Universal Time. ''GA'' stands for the United States State of Georgia and is that states code used by the United States Postal Service. At least I think so. Basically it's the Time Zone you are in. '''Preferences -> Date and Time'''. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:19, 5 March 2011 (MSK)

::Yeah, my timezone was set to "Other." Testing to see what it stamps this. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 15:26, 5 March 2011 (MSK)

== Problem ==

I'm having a problem with the site (it might be related to the new change, I'm not sure) but whenever I search for any Smith & Wesson, I get redirected to [[Smith]] --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 05:22, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

It works now. I just checked the search by copying and pasting what you wrote. It's good now [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:06, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

*Yeah, for a while yesterday it seemed "&" was an invalid character. Trying for any Heckler & Koch gun would land you on the page "Heckler," too. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:56, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

: Problem still persists for me. Going to the [[Smith & Wesson Escort]] page always sends you straight to the page on [[Smith]] --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:41, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

::Looks like it's happening again. XM8 page was working earlier but now dumps me straight on "Heckler," and Kane & Lynch 2 to "Kane." [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 18:01, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

Anyone else got the problem that the latest revision, discussions and whatever list is missing from the bottom of the main page? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 21:47, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

Yeah im missing it too, both physically and emotionally --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 23:16, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

: FYI Bunni removed it to "test speed improvements". http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 23:29, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

==Deus Ex: Human Revolution==

Hi, fellas. Just want to ask you if this game could have its own page? (The first game's page has been deleted) This game features a modified hi-tech FAMAS, MP7 and some more weapons. The weapons look like in Crysis or F.E.A.R. 2 and since those games have their own page this game should also. (I guess I don't have to tell you the history and influence of this franchise compared to the "new kid" Crysis....) --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 20:28, 6 March 2011 (MSK)
:I reckon so, the guns in the second game look alot less generic and made up than in the first game. From the look of it the SMG is a hybrid of an MP5 and an MP7, and the combat rifle does look like a FAMAS with a modified handguard and a few other bits. Granted they are not 100% real, but they are a hell of alot closer to real guns than most of those on the [[Crysis 2]] page. There is also a 10mm automatic pistol and a revolver firing explosive rounds in the gameplay trailer, but I don't know if these are based on anything. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 13:13, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

== The New Website Layout ==

This new website layout is seriously screwed up, i cant get to any weapon pages with "Heckler" or "Smith & Wesson" in the name, whoever did this seriously needs to rethink it.....

I second that. The whole thing looks a mess. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! --[[User:Ritch|Ritch]] 19:25, 8 March 2011 (MSK)

Can we go back to having the latest Discussions, New Entries, and Modified Entries on the homepage too? This new layout is a big step backwards in functionality. ''Wraith''

:We're working on it, but the software upgrade was a fact of life, we were running a seriously outdated version of the software with many security vulnerabilities. [[Special:Contributions/68.124.159.34|68.124.159.34]] 03:08, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

==Upload?==

I cannot upload any images since the update... can anyone confirm?? [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 23:42, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

: I had that problem early on. I was first able to upload again around midday today (that's Central European Time mind you). --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 22:21, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

::I don't seem to be able to log in. o_O [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 14:56, 10 March 2011 (MSK)

== FN FAL vs M16 ==

I would totally choose the FN FAL. M16's give to many problems and is too weak. Any opinions?--[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] 22:24, 11 March 2011 (MSK)
:you can compare a 7.62semi/full auto to a 5.56 semi/3 round, either way FAL=more stopping power, M16=acuraccy. i heard alot of the reliability issues are being solved too.
In a way I really don't respect the M16 due to:

*The lack of reliability, M16's jam alot and could cost a soldier his/her life.
*Accuracy can do but it has little ability to stop a potential target(unless a marksman and can give a few well placed shots.)

FN FAL:

*Has good accuracy and is more reliable.
*The FAL is capable of taking out potential targets behind any sort of cover what so ever, unlike the famous 50. BMG Sniper rifles and other rifles(5.56 or 7.62)where one would have to wait for the target to "pop out" behing cover.
*No matter where a soldier hits his target with his FAL the target will drop.

== How do I make a page? ==

I want to for a movie and video game. I do [[Category:Video Game]] then I put the game name right after it. I get "Bad Title" everytime.

2010-12-03T21:30:24Z

SAMBAMA: /* Question */

(removed the Acog discussion since Orca94 has already post images of new versions of non-fiber optic band Acogs)

==The Tallboy Bomb==
I'm well aware that the Avro Lancaster was never deployed to the Pacific Theater of Operations; a large force of Lancasters were intended to be sent to Okinawa to support the proposed invasion of Japan, but the war ended before this took place. My main concern with the Tallboy depicted in this film is related with its design and its intended use.

The Tallboy was intended to be used to destroy the thick concrete U-Boat pens in occupied France, which conventional iron bombs were incapable of penetrating. The aerodynamic design of the Tallboy, coupled with its massive bulk and twisted fins (which made it spin like a bullet when dropped) ensured that it could easily smash through concrete or steel; three Tallboys sank the German battleship Tirpitz.

A Tallboy dropped onto a target in the jungles of Burma would likely have punched several feet into the earth (even if it did not explode) and would be entirely buried sixty years later. I don't think it would be lodged on the surface to be conveniently employed by the film's protagonist in the present day. However, writers and directors are entitled to a bit of artistic license and the Tallboy detonation was a neat effect.

:: And any viewer with knowledge of WW2 history that covered the Tallboy would have been thinking the SAME THING. What you are posting is kinda obvious to people with the same knowledge base. I am not sure what your point is. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::And any viewer who did not have knowledge of World War II history that included the Tallboy would not have been thinking any such thing, other than wondering "What is with that big bomb?" I don't see what the point is in showing hostility towards someone inoffensively sharing some trivia regarding an unexploded bomb in a movie. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]]
::::Try reading it again with your happy voice :) The OP didn't see it as hostile, nor did I when I wrote it. I was just curious in that the OP was talking to the rest of us who worked on the page (and thus DID have the same knowledge of WW2 events), so it was a bit perplexing what that entire 'pronouncement' was all about. It was more of a "so? and did we do something wrong? or is this just an announcement of some kind?" If you want, I can retype it with a lot of happy faces :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

::::You're quite right. The Tallboy was an "earth quake bomb" designed to explode deep underground. Any Tallboy dropped that failed to go off would be buried under earth about 20 m deep. Also experiments were done to convert a B-29 to carry 2 Tallboy's! But only dummy's were used and no Tallboy's were ever deployed in the pacific theater. [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]]

==Rambo's M2 Browning==
From the trivia section about the M2 Browning machinegun used by Rambo it sounds as if they were live firing the gun during filming. Is this the case or am I misunderstanding the writing for I know live fire is used on rare ocassion in films, however I have never heard of a production doing so with a heavy machinegun. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::No. No live fire is ever allowed on a movie set. I didn't write that. GM45 wrote that, and though I have never heard that trivia note, GM45 would never make that stuff up. He must have heard it somewhere. However, it may not be necessary to the article. The paragraph may be poorly written or the info came from the DVD commentary, and lots of times the guys talking aren't the actual armorers so they use phrases that the rest of us would not. I have wondered about that too, and the only thing I can think of is that the blanks still have to cycle the action and barrel of the 50 cal, and the vibration of the cycling 'must' be stressful to whatever the gun is mounted to. I figure that even blanks will create such a massive 'back and forth' movement within the gun that a mount that is just bolted to the sheet metal of a truck bed will eventually rip out. Stallone fires so much ammo out of the gun that he must have fired thousands of rounds in production. Just a thought. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:32, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Alright, thanks for clearing that up. As for what you said about live fire never being used on movie sets, Phoenixent once told me that prior to the 1950's it was not all that uncommon for live fire to be used under controlled conditions being as certain guns could not be blank adapted at the time. In addition, movies like ''[[Face/Off]]'' integrate footage of live gunfire into the film even if the guns are not actually fired on set. With regards to ''[[Rambo (2008)]]'' I thought that they might possibly have taken Stallone and the M2 to a firing range, filmed him shooting live rounds, and then cut that footage into the movie though after reading your explination I doubt that is what they actually did, -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::::Yes, things were very unsafe '''over half a century ago'''. Of course it would be silly to apply those workplace standards now. :) The rights and safety of actors and extras was not priority back then. During a silent movie epic about Biblical times (either RKO or MGM) killed outright dozens of extras when they flooded the movie set with millions of gallons of water to re-create the biblical flood .... without warning ANY of the actors. I found it unbelievable that non of the big movie mogul bosses were ever charged, nor did anyone ever go to jail, nor were reparations paid to the families of those who were killed. But it was a different time. Consider those 'the olden days'. PhoenixEnt may recollect the details of that particular Hollywood tragedy, but I can't. Anyway, in modern day sets, NO LIVE AMMO will ever be tolerated. Not by the Unions, not by the Corporations, and especially not by the Insurance Underwriters. That will shut down a movie set pronto (unless it's a safely done 2nd unit shot or a renegade production in another country). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::If it wasn't the guns cycling that ripped the gun off the truck bed, it might have been how violently Sly was pulling on it as he was firing, he was dramatically yanking the gun most of the time. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Reese's M203 ==

Could this be the same Gun used in Transformers by Tyrese Gibson?

It's the same M4 with the Camo Paint and Sight attached to the Carry handle.

I attend to agree in this, after a close examination of the screencap in the main page. --[[User:Dangerman 1973|Dangerman 1973]] 17:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)--

Here's the two for comparison:

From '''Rambo (2008)'''
[[Image:Rambo_M4a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

From '''Transformers (2007)'''
[[Image:Trans-M203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
--[[User:Dangerman 1973|Dangerman 1973]] 17:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)--

:It depends on which armory supplied the weapons for each film. But yes, it is definitely possible (perhaps even likely) that they're the same gun. Guns get reused on different shows all the time, as the armories always rent them out to many, many productions over a long period. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:09, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::Looks good. Eventually I may be able to track down the gun in whosever inventory it sits and photograph it. :) I will put it on my list. --[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:28, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, the Brit's Mossberg is the same from Transformers, so maybe its the same armorer. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

::::Actually, if you look at the credits, both movies had different armorers. But that doesn't mean that the armorers couldn't have rented the guns from the same '''armory''' (prop house), and thus the weapon could still be the same one. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:I don't know what this counts for, but if you look closely, there are a few differences in the camouflaging. For example, the M203 barrel and carry handle on Reese's M4 has small bits of unpainted areas that are painted over on Tyrese's. However it's possible the paint was worn off somehow during the filming of Rambo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

==Arrows==
What kind of arrows does he use?
:You're kidding, right?

Ahhhh hahahahah! Gunner313

lol [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

== The bow ==

The page for this movie incorrectly identifies the bow Rambo uses to fish as a compound bow. Rambo actually uses two bows in this film. The fishing bow with a reel attached is a longbow. From the photo provided it's difficult to see but in the film it's obvious that there are no cam wheels on the bow.
The bow he uses later is the same custom Hoyt compound bow he used in Rambo Part II. It may be the same in Part III as well, only with the on-board quiver removed.
::Go ahead and update that info. I wasn't the one who created the "bow" entry, so if it is incorrect, then by all means please put in the correct information. thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

== M1 Carbine. ==

The kid with the guide has what I think is an M1 carbine with a 30 round mag and some kind of underfolding stock. Any screenshots?--[[Special:Contributions/153.106.4.94|153.106.4.94]] 23:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)Jake

== Rambo's Machete ==

Unless I'm misreading the description, the info you have about Sly making the knife himself is wrong. The Knife was once again made by Gil Hibben, you can read the full story here http://www.hibbenknives.com/JRDev.htm
::I didn't write that. GM45 did and I cannot vouch for any info I didn't put on the page. If you have contrary information, please edit the page to reflect the new info. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:43, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::From what i know, which includes info from the DVD's extras plus many detailed interviews with Stallone, Stallone made the blade of the machete on a forge. He went through nearly a dozen heat proof gloves as the metal used needed to be that hot to make it workable and he did'nt have time to let it cool. The knife master on the film, Gil Hibbon, designed it and produced the prototypes and more than likely finished off the work started by Stallone to the finished model we see in the film.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 17:29, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Schoolboy's Combat Knife ==

I'm just wondering what kind of knife Schoolboy had when he killed the guy in the watch tower. You get a good view of it before he goes up the rest of the way.

Any idea?

Its supposed to be Rambo's knife from Part II, although there is a deleted scene were Rambo throws his knife onto the burning pirate boat. As far as i know for certain, no-one has spoken about the knife Schoolboy uses nor has there been any articles written. All the scenes were Schoolboy uses his knife are set at night so identifying has proved difficult, though i think i can just make out what seems like a knuckle guard on the grip.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 15:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==
Is it just me or did Rambo fire 10 shots from his 1911s 7 round clip?
:You mean magazine?

1911's can hold 8 in the mag and one in the pipe...so maybe it was 9.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 12:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Explains that.

: I counted six. And if I ain't mistaken, the M1911 holds 7 rounds +1 in the chamber. [[Special:Contributions/67.187.27.89|67.187.27.89]] 01:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

You're half mistaken. They have 8-round mags. That equates to 8+1. Hell, they have 15 round mags. -SasquatchJim.

Not the correct you sasquatch but i own a M1911 similar to Rambo's. the regular 1911 as most of us know hold 7+1. its the more modern variants like Kimber or Nighthawk that hold 8+1. and although a movie i doubt he keeps a round in the chamber with a 1911 which i find very unsafe, and 2. im sure if its his personal 1911 hes had it for a while and doesnt reload it everyday so its possible that the 6 or 7 in the gun was it.

It's fine. However, I wasn't really saying that Rambo's gun in particular will hold 8. The guy before me just said that the M1911 holds 7 rounds. I simply meant that there ARE 1911s that hold 8.

ALL 1911's will hold a 8rd mag, it has nothing to do with when the gun was made it all comes down to how the mags spring was cut. Kimber and Nighthawk have nothing to do with it because I can take the 8rd out of my kimber and put it into my springfield then put it into a colt with the same effects...and YES rambo carries one in the chamber because he draws the gun and fires, he never racks the slide before he kill everyone. So Obviously Mr.Anonymous know very little about guns and even less about action movies.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

First off I do know a lot about guns and about action movies. Second Yes I do relize he had one in the chamber. Third, I wanted to know how many rounds did he fire.

Talk:Rambo (2008)

2010-11-29T12:27:26Z

SAMBAMA: /* Question */

User talk:Charon68

2010-10-31T18:52:50Z

SAMBAMA: /* Sons of Anarchy armory */

==You're an ADULT?==
Amazing. We don't have many of those on IMFDB. Welcome to the minority! LOL! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:29, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Studio Weapons==
(You wrote: ''Do studios still keep their own "arsenals"? I was given the impression that most, if not all, firearms for movies were in the private sector. '')

Well, to be perfectly clear, private sector is any company that is NOT a government entity, so all movie armories throughout time have been 'private sector' ;). But onto the bulk of your question, the major studios (20th Century Fox, paramount, Warner Brothers, RKO, etc.) used to have their own props and costume departments back in the old days, but they never had their own GUN or WEAPONS department. ''[EDIT: I was wrong. In the old days, RKO, WB and others did have their own gun armories, but this was in the old days of behemoth studios who did everything and owned their own contract stars. Only when things became more streamlined did they all sell off their gun rooms and private companies flourished]'' From what I understand they were ALWAYS kept to private companies who rented to everyone or anyone who needed it. It was a much more expensive (and paperwork intensive) endeavor to keep a rack of Thompson Submachine guns rather than a rack of '''ball gowns''' for a period movie, so the Studios wouldn't bother. Private companies have rented to all of the major studios and independent films since the advent of 'talkies'.

Now there is a distinction between ARMORERS and WEAPONS RENTAL HOUSES (my terms for lack of a better description). There are famous ARMORERS or (weapons wranglers) like Rocky Galotti or Thell Reed or Rich Washburn, et. al but they are licensed individuals (i.e. they are experts in gun usage and safety who are licensed to provide and train cast and crew on the set.) The guns you may see in their films may NOT be their own personal guns, but guns they sub rented from a weapons rental house.

Now some of these big time armorers are also the owners or co-owners of their own gun rental company, and nearly all armorers (no matter how minor) have some gun inventory. But all of the Hollywood Armorers have to subrent some guns from the big companies (i.e. Stembridge, ISS, Gibbons & Assoc., etc.) when they do BIG movies with lots of guns. We sub rent to each other all the time. I have on screen credits when I was on set as an armorer or wrangler, but a lot of the bigger films, I was just a vendor, not a member of the crew who showed up every filming day. I don't get screen credit on those films, even though they used my guns in the project.

But are you asking if all guns in films are private property of individuals? Well if they are, they are the property of movie industry gun wranglers, since all semi auto or full auto guns have to be blank adapted, many times in such ways that ruin the gun from ever firing live rounds ever again. I don't think movies 'rent or borrow' from regular people's personal gun collections unless it's a super low budget independent film. Since I'm not 100% I answered your question (or if I understood it correctly), feel free to drop a line. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Updates==
cc'd to: MT2008, Orca1 9904, Charon68 and others... :)
I've been trying to get higher rez original pics to IMFDB for a little bit now. One of the major beefs I have with site like Security arms.org or Guns of the world.ru is that there are some really crappy pics, and lots of those pics are weird hybrid variations that are not good representations of the mainstream version of the firearm. Though I've had some nice comments from a few folks, I need to verify that it's kosher to try to eliminate the bad resolution 'stolen from the net' pics and replace them with original photographs. (granted permission by me the copyright holder) Don't know if I am stepping on anyone's toes or if anyone would be offended that I replaced their image (which was 'borrowed' from the net originally) with another image. If anyone thinks I should NOT be replacing pics on existing pages with new gun images, please let me know. Do the majority of IMFDB users even care? I'm fully expecting '''other sites''' to start stealing images from IMFDB when the level of pics goes up. :) hahahaha. Thanks for your comments at any rate> :)

==Images==
Hahahaha. Thanks for the note .... BUT (!!!) the images of guns that I am uploading are Mine. :) I am actively taking out guns from the vaults of SEVERAL motion picture rental houses and putting them on a white backdrop and photographing them myself. So I am the copyright holder. :) So I am granting IMFDB the rights to use my photos. I guess mine are the only ones (other than others who are granted rights by the copyright holders), that are really kosher. The funny thing is, since IMFDB is the only one I am shooting pictures for, the other websites can't pirate them or else I'll send them a nasty email ;) LOL! Hope you like the pics. :) And great job on the page updates. best regards [[UserID#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Jericho==

OK, that'd be awesome. Any you got would help out. I'm only up to Episode 18 "One Man's Terrorist" from Season 1, so I just haven't seen as much of the show as you might have. If you want to add guns and screencaps, the more the better. Doing TV shows is always an intimidating task for one man. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks! I appreciate the extra shots. I'm probably going to add some of my own shots of Jake's Ruger P89 (now that I've finally seen the first episode in which it appears). The format also needs to be made consistent (remember, you shouldn't put the links to the gun pages in the titles, plus we need images of the guns on each entry), but I do appreciate the help. Again, as I download more episodes of this show off iTunes, I can continue to add more screencaps of my own, but I did the help.

:BTW, haven't seen the episode yet, but are you sure those are Glock 18s? They look too small to me. I think they're actually G19s with 33-round mags. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:39, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==re:Un-released movies ==

Depends on what you mean. Since I'm assuming that by "access" to this unreleased movie, you mean a bootleg or pirated version, the answer is that you can make a page where you list guns that audiences can expect to see in the movie once it gets released in theaters, but '''NOT''' with screencaps from the bootleg. That is a big no-no. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re:The Dirty Dozen==
I'm sorry, but I'm adding screenshots and I always wipe a page clean when I do that. Since I screencapped the movie in full, all the info you had will be back on their soon. Sorry I got rid of your work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I finished the page, all the info you had is back and then some. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:"I am sorry in advance for the language I am about to use but this '''douche''' Gunmaster45 completely erased the "Dirty Dozen" page I had ALREADY created. Not a single piece of the page I had created still exists. Admin or not, where does this '''asshole''' get off destroying a page I worked on??? "

I'm sorry if I upset you but as you can see, I added everything back to the page with screencaps from the film.

==RE:==

Thanks for alerting me to this. It probably has a lot to do with the fact that Kin93 (the user who created the page) does not speak English as his first language, but it is still inexcusable. Good call. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==
Your welcome but I should comment that it shouldn't be a seperate page, it should be part of the M1911 pistol series page, since it is basically a compact .380 1911. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Gun Images==
After months of reviewing the pages, I am still in the camp that too many images ruins a page. I know, there are a few members who are 100% against me on this, but a lot agree. I have asked new people to look at a page, and the consensus tends to be no more than 7-10 images per weapon (at the uppermost LIMIT). Otherwise the section is too large and people get sick and tired scrolling down to the next weapons section. In fact on some of the HUGE pages, people actually got pissed and clicked AWAY from that page, getting frustrated. It's the internet. People don't want to hunt for long periods of time to get the info they want. So I tend to do only 3-4 images with some few exceptions. We have to look at it from the user's / visitor's experience. I am probably going to write this rule into the standards page ... woo watch the fireworks when that happens! hope this helps. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:54, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

==TV Series==
Thanks for the question before uploading the images. :) It's a tough call with TV series because they can last so long. I kinda pushed the envelope for [[Bionic Woman]] because the show only lasted eight episodes, so I could actually show every instance of the weapon in each episode, also since different characters used it, but that was more of an homage to a canceled show more than anything else. Can you imagine if an fanatical '''[[X Files, The|X-Files]]''' fan screencapped every time someone used a Glock in the NINE years of the show? hahahahaha. The Glock pistol section would have 236 screencaps alone! LOL What I would do is put up only the most beautiful and clear shots of the gun wielded by the most important characters. However in the descriptions, one should list what episodes had the appearance of the weapon. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:37, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

==Nat Geo==
I don't know the specifics of this show, but it straddles a line with IMFDB, so I would say "usually Not". Documentaries and News Specials (Like Dateline ABC: Afghanistan) are usually not allowed on IMFDB because they are just 'news shows' documenting real life events. It would be like chronicling the entire BBC mini series "The World At War" which was just news reels of World War II events (like any news special on guns). It would be a big 'so what?' being that we would just be repeating what history buffs would already know. The original intent of IMFDB was guns in movies (and has expanded somewhat) but the focus is that someone took the time, effort, talent, motivation, etc. to put a specific weapon in a visual entertainment media, whether it was an Armorer (or director like Michael Mann), or an Anime Artist, etc. There are SOME reality based shows, where viewers may be curious as to what weapons are used by recurring characters on the show, but news shows or documentaries are not encouraged.

:On a political front, I've VERY suspicious about any anti=gun bias by any 'expose' on Guns in America. They're being more subtle now but its there and I tend to not want to support it, but that's MY bias and not an official rule. ;)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 14:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

They used to be REALLY anti gun. I have an ABC news Expose on GUNS IN AMERICA that I taped back in 1989. It was HORRIBLE. They went out of their way to make Guns and gun owners look like idiots. On your front, I am wary that the journalists 'show' gun owners but portray them as somewhat 'giddy' and unbalanced. Like I said before, the anti gun bias is subtle, but its there. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 16:45, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

==RE King Kong .50==
I was just moving your comment saying the .50s were actually .30s to the discussion page. Your probably right about the .50s being .30s on the Curtiss Falcons so you can change it if you want. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 07:02, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh...I thought I had put it on the discussion page. Thanks. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 03:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Sons of Anarchy armory==

I got a question since you appear to be the Go to guy with the page on Sons.
I'm writing a crossover story between Sons of Anarchy and NCIS and would like you opinion of the arsenal the 3 nomads use in it.
it's listed below.

Nomad’s weapons: In Trojan Horse and the sequels that will follow The Nomads employ a variety of guns and weapons to get the job done, however they usually carry them on their persons, their saddlebags, or in their Chevy van. Their weapons include:

On person: Sam: Glock 22, KaBar, Glock 26 on right ankle holster, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle

Vince: Glock 21, KaBar, 2 Glock 26s on a duel ankle holster on right ankle, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle

Hank: Dual Glock 21s in shoulder rig, Big Daddy Jungle Knife, 1 Glock 30 on right ankle holster, Tiger shark combat knife on left ankle

In Saddle bags: 10 in each

Sam: 1 Sawed off Remington 1100, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 1 Tec 9, 2 Kimber Custom 45s, 3 Glock 17s, 1 Glock 34, 1 Berretta PX4 storm 45

Vince: 1 Sawed off Ithaca M37, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 8 Glock 19s

Hank: 1 Sawed off Remington M870, 9 Glock 21s

106 in Van in a custom extra tire compartment in the back floor, gun rack, glove

compartments, and boxes:

60 Handguns:

30 Glock 17s

10 Glock 21s

10 Glock 22s

10 Glock 27s

15 Shotguns:

5 Sawed off Remington M870s

5 Sawed off Ithaca M37s

5 Benelli M4 tacticals

12 Assault Rifles:

12 AK 47s

11 Knives:

5 5” Tantos

1 Spartan fixed blade

3 13” Bowie Knives

2 Neck Knives

8 Melee:

3 Louisville Sluggers

1 9 iron golf club

2 sawed off pool cues

1 black jack

1 Brass knuckles

What do you think?
[[user: SAMBAMA]]

User talk:Charon68

2010-10-31T18:52:10Z

SAMBAMA: /* RE King Kong .50 */

User:SAMBAMA

2010-10-31T18:46:58Z

SAMBAMA:

Just a good old Christian South Alabama country boy.

I'm writing a crossover between those two shows and would like a second opinion about the arsenal the 3 Nomads use. it's listed below.

Nomad’s weapons: In Trojan Horse and the sequels that will follow The Nomads employ a variety of guns and weapons to get the job done, however they usually carry them on their persons, their saddlebags, or in their Chevy van. Their weapons include: On person: Sam: Glock 22, KaBar, Glock 26 on right ankle holster, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle

Vince: Glock 21, KaBar, 2 Glock 26s on a duel ankle holster on right ankle, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle

Hank: Dual Glock 21s in shoulder rig, Big Daddy Jungle Knife, 1 Glock 30 on right ankle holster, Tiger shark combat knife on left ankle

In Saddle bags: 10 in each

Sam: 1 Sawed off Remington 1100, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 1 Tec 9, 2 Kimber Custom 45s, 3 Glock 17s, 1 Glock 34, 1 Berretta PX4 storm 45

Vince: 1 Sawed off Ithaca M37, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 8 Glock 19s

Hank: 1 Sawed off Remington M870, 9 Glock 21s

106 in Van in a custom extra tire compartment in the back floor, gun rack, glove

compartments, and boxes:

60 Handguns:

30 Glock 17s

10 Glock 21s

10 Glock 22s

10 Glock 27s

15 Shotguns:

5 Sawed off Remington M870s

5 Sawed off Ithaca M37s

5 Benelli M4 tacticals

12 Assault Rifles:

12 AK 47s

11 Knives:

5 5” Tantos

1 Spartan fixed blade

3 13” Bowie Knives

2 Neck Knives

8 Melee:

3 Louisville Sluggers

1 9 iron golf club

2 sawed off pool cues

1 black jack

1 Brass knuckles

What do you guys think?

Talk:Main Page

2010-10-28T21:03:09Z

SAMBAMA: /* NCIS/Sons of Anarchy crossover arsenal */

__TOC__ 

==NCIS/Sons of Anarchy crossover arsenal==
Hey I'm writing a crossover between those two shows and would like a second opinion about the arsenal the 3 Nomads use. it's listed below.

Nomad’s weapons: In Trojan Horse and the sequels that will follow The Nomads employ a variety of guns and weapons to get the job done, however they usually carry them on their persons, their saddlebags, or in their Chevy van.
Their weapons include:
On person:
Sam: Glock 22, KaBar, Glock 26 on right ankle holster, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle

Vince: Glock 21, KaBar, 2 Glock 26s on a duel ankle holster on right ankle, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle

Hank: Dual Glock 21s in shoulder rig, Big Daddy Jungle Knife, 1 Glock 30 on right ankle holster, Tiger shark combat knife on left ankle

In Saddle bags: 10 in each

Sam: 1 Sawed off Remington 1100, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 1 Tec 9, 2 Kimber Custom 45s, 3 Glock 17s, 1 Glock 34, 1 Berretta PX4 storm 45

Vince: 1 Sawed off Ithaca M37, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 8 Glock 19s

Hank: 1 Sawed off Remington M870, 9 Glock 21s

106 in Van in a custom extra tire compartment in the back floor, gun rack, glove

compartments, and boxes:

60 Handguns:

30 Glock 17s

10 Glock 21s

10 Glock 22s

10 Glock 27s

15 Shotguns:

5 Sawed off Remington M870s

5 Sawed off Ithaca M37s

5 Benelli M4 tacticals

12 Assault Rifles:

12 AK 47s

11 Knives:

5 5” Tantos

1 Spartan fixed blade

3 13” Bowie Knives

2 Neck Knives

8 Melee:

3 Louisville Sluggers

1 9 iron golf club

2 sawed off pool cues

1 black jack

1 Brass knuckles

What do you guys think? Are these weapons appropriate for outlaw bikers?
Also heres the link to the story:http: //www.fanfiction.net/s/5643700/1/Trojan_Horse. tell me what you think.

==Bolt-Action Shotguns==
I have watched some youtube videos with people using a variety of bolt-action shotguns, one of the videos is called 16 ga one handed redneck style where he has modified this bolt-action shotty by sawing off the stock and adding a green finish, if you can identify it I would appreciate it.

==IMFDB = Internet Movie Firearms Data Base, right?==
That's an assumption from the obvious subject of this Wiki. Don't you think the full name should appear on the Main Page? I don't see it anywhere! Fine Wiki you've got going here. [[Special:Contributions/68.199.188.123|68.199.188.123]] 05:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:You are right! We should have the title INTERNET MOVIE FIREARMS DATA BASE somewhere boldly on the main page. I can EDIT the page, but it has a lot of wiki code on it and I don't want to mess anything up. Can someone else with access (and more wiki code experience) do this change? Can Bunni do this change? It seems pretty obvious and I can't believe we didn't catch it until now. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

::- I see now we have a big '''Internet Movie Firearms Database''' banner on the main page. Looks good. All the OCD nuts should be happy now! Yay! :b Seriously though, it is good to have it, thanks and nice job. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

==Oh, and another question==
Just watched very interesting commercial. Directed by [[Sam Raimi]] it's actually spoofing [[Desperado]]. There are guns, including [[Remington 1866 Derringer]], one of my personal favoties, i can recognize it everywhere. There's also [[John Saxon]] here. Can i do a page about this commercial? Also, if more global, can commercials and music videos be here, as they also media, like video games and movies. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 15:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know about that. That's getting too much out of scope, I think. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::NO Commercials, NO Music Videos. There are tons of commercials that play only in Europe or Asia and we can't verify any of that info here. For one thing, you can't BUY or rent the DVDs of television commercials and (the vast majority of) Music videos to screencap them, or more importantly, confirm the veracity of said pages. Yes, chances are you can find a (usually low rez version) on the Internet, but really, do people wonder about the guns in either of those types of visual media? If we include ALL visual media, then we would be forced to accept news broadcasts, documentaries, industrial or training videos, etc. etc. and veer farther from the central theme of being the MOVIE firearms database. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:08, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
::: You wrong actually - there are tons of DVD and festivals, that show commercials. And you can verify them via youtube Though, never mind. But can i do the thing on [[Sam Raimi]] page as a bonus like "Other Works" on IMDB? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 09:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

::::No YOU'RE WRONG, Kloga. You insist on adding things that are (a) unnecessary and (b) Stupid. I'm on the verge of banning just because you keep on pushing it and pushing when we say NO to your various ideas. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

- Commercials? Music videos? Are you joking? Man, there are literally zillions of commercials that have been made in the world, and I'm sure a healthy percentage of them have gun usage. There have also been loads upon loads of music videos, with a much higher percentage of them having firearms in them. All of which would make for a rather ugly number of additional pages. You're talking about increasing this site in size and organization by at least two or three-fold, if not far more. Be realistic. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

==Request: High Heels & Low Lifes==
While kinda chick-flick-ish, it's still a highly entertaining movie.. and has some really nice looking firearms. There is a scene where one of the main characters, Mason, is standing in the doorway of a darkened apartment, turns to face (three quarters) the camera and pulls out a gun. I have no idea what kind of firearm this is but it looks really awesome.. and if anyone can identify it would be much appreciated!

==Jacked pictures==
The following are pictures taken from my website. The first one is edited, but it's still my picture. The first version still has my copyright notice on it, as does the second picture. [[Image:M1891.jpg]] and [[Image:M39.jpg]] Please remove all versions of both these pictures from the database. I'm not very familiar with wikis or I'd do it myself. --[[User:7.62x54r.net|7.62x54r.net]] 23:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

==English Scripts==
To unregistered users. use English script when writing on these pages. Most of us are American and don't run asian word scripts on our computers. Thus Asian letters are unreadable to us and look like gibberish. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Screencap Legality ==
How do you know whether uploading screencaps violates copyright or not?
: Pretty sure it is okay because no one has hunted us down to sue us, but anyway, as long as you don't claim it is your work and credit only yourself, you should be okay. -GM
:: One thing I would advise you to do is not upload screenshots from pirated copies of movies that haven't been released yet on DVD and Blu Ray. I imagine that if someone working for one of the studios saw that, they would be very upset. They'll know the shots came from a bootleg if the movie isn't out on DVD yet, and they might just throw the book at us. Avoid this at all costs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Merging articles ==

Is it possible to merge an article with a pre-existing article? Every time I try to do this with particular types of guns, I get an error message that says, "A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name." For instance, if I wanted to move the HK91 article under the H&K G3 article (since the HK91 is a G3 variant, I don't think it needs its own page), I can't do this.
::To merge an article, take the article, copy all the information and put it on the new page in the format you wish to make. You can also do this if you wish to change the name of a page. Take the page that you copied everything from and delete everything on that page. Write on that page this exactly(minus quotes):
"#REDIRECT (then use double [ ] brackets) and write the name of the page EXACTLY AS IT IS. Screw up the name and it'll redirect no where.
:Example
# "#Redirect [[[[M16 rifle series]]]]"
Note:How I made it look finished is what it should look like. Not what it looks like when in the editing of the page. Hope I helped. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

This is probably rhetorical, but is this the same method of redirecting to a page, i.e. [[QBZ-95]] redirecting to [[Norinco QB rifle series]]? I noticed that a page for the QBZ-95 was deleted because there already was one (Norinco QB rifle series), but whenever you type in QBZ-95, there are absolutely no results for it, and that could be confusing for your everyday user..[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Let there be backups! ==
Ok, I've installed ruby on our dedicated server, signed up for Amazon's s3 storage service, and customized a ruby backup script to automatically backup the database and all image files at 4am pst and upload them to our s3 folder. The process really bogs down the box for a good 10 minutes, so I'm thinking once every 24 hours is fine, but I may go to once every 12 hours eventually... Thanks for putting up with the ups and downs during this time of transition.

Best,
Chris
[[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to our new server! This is the first of many steps I am taking to ensure we never lose data again. The site used to be hosted on shared hosting overseas - we now have a dedicated server housed in a co-location in San Jose, CA. Dedicated servers don't come cheap, but your time, effort, and contributions are now my number one priority.

I'm still transferring the images that have been uploaded over the last couple days, don't worry they're not lost!

==The McUzi==
It wasn’t until I read the ‘Raw Deal’ article on the “fake Uzi” that I realized Hollywood was dressing MAC-10s up as Uzis.

In ‘The Dog of War’ the mercenaries are supposed to be using Uzis. However some are using MAC-10s and some are using MACs dressed up as Uzis. The actors seem to change weapons randomly. For example, as the climactic battle begins Tom Berenger is using a real Uzi and Christopher Walken is using a silenced Uzi. However in the final minutes both are using McUzis. This is made painfully clear as Walken holds the gun to his face when reloading.

There are real MAC Uzi hybrids. These are civilian versions of the Uzi with a .45 barrel, bolt and a MAC-10 magazine well to accept the universal Grease Gun magazines.

The Hollywood guns are merely MACs with Uzi parts added on.

I would see to real reason to make a gun like this accept that the filmmakers wanted to use Uzis but ran out. Much like ‘Planet of the Apes’ when the studio ran out of ape costumes they simply used paper mask. If you look closely at the audience of Heston’s mock trial.

I captured some great stills to add to ‘The Dogs of War’ article.````

== moved from main page ==
We're on the new server and still working the bugs out - email me at cserrano@gmail.com if you're having any issues editing or logging in. The backup file is from early September 30, so most of yesterdays edits are missing - sorry GunMaster45 I'm working on it! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC) ''GunMaster45 I've recovered the latest version of the [[Street Kings]] page - anything else we're missing?'' [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 21:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
: I had the R9 pistol which I had uploaed today but I redid it. Will the pictures remain fuzzy and pixelated or is that just temporary? (Hopefully) -GM

If you find something missing from the old server you can still access it here 66.79.167.132/~imfdb/index.php?title=Main_Page [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 20:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:I had just uploaded some pics of the AR18 from Terminator and the Street Sweeper from Total Recall. Can you get them back, or should I upload them again? Also, MPM2008 uploaded some new gun pics, and I don't think he'll appreciate their loss.

== How do i "screencap" a movie? ==
How do i screencap a movie?: [[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 12:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, OK then. We all have our own methods of doing so. Personally, I play my DVDs using VLC Media Player, which has a Snapshot feature which lets you take screenshots when paused, and then it saves them automatically as JPEGs or PNGs to a designated folder of your choosing. However, that's ONLY when I'm screencapping movies I own on DVD. I also rent and download movies using iTunes which I might screencap for IMFDB pages, and I can't play those with VLC. In those cases, I just hit the "Print Screen" key, paste the image into MSPaint, and then crop away the iTunes browser so that only the movie image remains. Then I save them to my HD in a designated folder. Once I've acquired enough screenshots for a movie, I use "Upload file" to put them on IMFDB so that I can use them for pages I edit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::First and most importantly, you need a DVD drive in your computer to watch the movie. I watch mine on Windows WinDVD system, which has a built in "screencap" button by pressing P, which saves them all in WinDVD file. I take those files from the folder, which are all saved under BMPs and re-save them as JPGs using Corel Paintshop. If they are widescreen, I use crop to cut them out. I then upload them to the site and post them. Now that I've read MT2008's method for iTunes, I can screencap [[Shoot 'Em Up]] which wasn't compatable with my WinDVD system, but worked on my other DVD player which had no screencap button. Hooray! -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

And also you can use the program I use which is CyberLink PowerDVD which also has a built in Screenshot button. First the screenshots start out as BMPs, but then I use Irfan View to save them as JPGs to a different folder. And if they are widescreen, I use Windows Photo Gallery to crop off the black bars. You should also check out Gunmaster's and MT2008's methods because they might be better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

What about taking pictures on a digital camera and uploading them to your PC? Does anyone know if it works?[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 21:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

::Thats a very myspace101 question but it's simple there's about 4 ways to do it but I've only done 2. (This demonstration is only done on Windows XP)

:::Option 1: If your camera has a memory slot like a (Compact Flash, Secure Digital, Mini SD, Micro SD, Memory Stick Pro, MultiMediaCard (MMC), SmartMedia, xD-Picture Card (xD), etc.) you could remove the card from the camera. Step 1: Once you removed the card from the camera if you have a compatible USB card reader you can plug the card reader into the computer and plug the card into the card reader. The most common great quality card reader brands are (Sandisk, Memorex, PNY, and Lexar) for approximately $20.00 at Wal-Mart.

:::Option 2: If your camera has a connection for a USB cable. Step 1: You can easily find and plug the USB adaptor into the camera and plug the other end of the plug into you computer.

:::The upload process is easy (tested on Windows XP) your computer bottom right task tray will show a "Found New Hardware" icon and be gone that means your camera is connected. Step 2: A pop up will show on how you want to view your images click on "view with Windows" if this pop up does not pop up you will have to manually follow step 3 if not skip on to step 4. Step 3: You may click "My Computer" or "My Documents" most likely on the desktop or start menu on your computer you will go to "My Computer" and find a folder that says a brand of your memory card or camera. Step: 4 Click on the folder and look through all folders and once you find it you may highlight the folder or the selected images on your computer mouse right click and press copy (or press Ctrl+C on your keyboard) and paste the images where ever you want in your computer.

== How do i screencap from a television? ==
Like if i wanted to screencap some video games? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

:You probably need some high tech gizmo. Usually people who screencap TV use DVR and record TV on DVD, then upload them on the computer. I've never done it but it may work for VGs. -GM45

::Personally, I'd recommend maybe trying an emulator to play said game on your computer (assuming your PC is fast enough to handle the software and game). I've been thinking of redoing the ''[[Goldeneye 007]]'' page for a while using Project64 (which has a screencap feature), because I can play that game at high resolution even on my laptop.
:::I recommend softwares like Fraps (only for PC games). It can take images with a click of a button and you can choose what to save it as in the Pictures section. The disadvantage is that you can't record gameplay in computer games and you must pay about $99 (not sure, but around there and you can also pay little by little per month or week to use) it to do unlimited video capturing. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

==Call of Duty 4 pictures==
I've got good pictures of guns for Call of Duty 4, but i don't know how to upload them, anyone knows how to email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com

:All you have to do is go to "Upload file" under the "Toolbox" section in the left-hand column. -MT2008

==Protection Log?==
Is something wrong with the site. Why are all the pics being fixed with "([edit=sysop:move=sysop])" for a protection log? I know little about that technical stuff, is someone removing the pics or are they just being protected from over-uploading crappy pics over? -GM

:They're being protected. Some asshole came in earlier today and kept trying to replace MoviePropMaster's pics with stock 'Net images, and kept doing it even after he was asked to stop. MPM's pics are our pride 'n joy...Alienqueen and I agreed not to let them get screwed with anymore. -MT2008

Yeah, that's reason why I did it. I just wish I had my ability to block users back, and then I wouldn't have had to set up protections. I told that guy not to upload over MPM2008's images and multiple times and he didn't listen.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==Flannigan==
on the Snatch page- I know it already says that the .50 is a 357, but also another way of finding out is that .50s fire 7 rounds where as in the film Bullet tooth tony fires 8 in every mag. so it must be a 357.

Retrieved from "http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Snatch"

==Deleting old files==
As y'all can probably tell, I have been on a huge deleting spree recently. I've been getting rid of files that weren't being used for whatever reason or another. Some of them were gun images that have since been replaced by MoviePropMaster's images, others were old screencaps that have been replaced by newer ones (like all of my old ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' shots, which have since been replaced by GunMaster's), and some were those images of weird experimental guns uploaded by Cutaway that don't appear in any movie and thus have no purpose on this site.

I realize, of course, that this by itself won't relieve the strain on the servers; it's inevitable as this site grows. But it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. If anyone of the Admins are interested in helping out, please go to "Special Pages" and click on "Unused Files" (at the top). If you see something that might be worth keeping (i.e. Choi's screencaps from ''[[The Killer]]'' which haven't been put on the page yet), leave it alone, but if you see gun images that obviously have no use or screencaps that you know have been replaced...ditch 'em.

Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Good Work, MT2008. I'm sure it'll give us more server space, I'll be sure to delete some myself. One question, if we get rid of the old files, will this site load faster?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

:Beats me, but I'd have to guess...not ''noticeably'' faster. It will at least give us more space for uploading newer files. However, IMFDB is constantly growing, so it's inevitable we'll reach our limits eventually. You'd have to ask Bunni when that will be. Anyway, I'm off to the pub now. I will be back later to continue. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:20, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Go right ahead, you deserve a break. I'll get rid of as many as I can, I'm also seeing alot of screenshots nobody bothered to use, it makes me wonder why people upload them if they're just going to sit there for a year and gather dust. And, I'm also going to screencap [[Four Brothers]] and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]] soon, so you can look forward to seeing them completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Fictional Firearms==
I propose that we denote pages for 'fictional' firearms with parentheses "like Non Guns" so that they are in a different grouping than real guns. GM has made pages for the fantasy weapons of Hellboy II and that made me think about custom pages for the Morita Rifle (Starship troopers) or the M590 (Space:Above and Beyond) or the Blade Runner Pistol or any of the Star Wars guns (versus other types of Sci fi weapons, these should be guns). Even though THESE fictional guns are based on real guns, they can have their own pages with links to the original weapons page. Regardless, I think that guns that aren't real should be separated, lest they confuse users. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:I agree. I was kinda turned off when I saw the Aliens Resurrection page. None of those guns were based off of real firearms or even guns dressed up to look like futuristic guns.

::Well I get the point of making a post about fictional guns that were built around real guns like the Morita rifle and the Pulse Rifle of Aliens, but guns that were built from scratch like the Samaritian. Would it really need a page here or is that just for the fanboys who like the gun? It's like a page for the cars used in the Punisher movie or people who like to include knives, swords, and even bows & arrow in pages, including me. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

:::The advantage is that the page can inform an interested user that the prop was NOT based on any real firearm, information that is just as important as informing 'what real firearm' was used in a prop weapon. What I don't like are obvious NON crafted weapons .... like [[Molotov cocktails]] ... wtf? That's an improvised weapon, like a sharp stick or a brick.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

::What about bows & arrows, or crossbows? I put them in my pages cause when they are used, they an impression and deserve a mention evne though they aren't firearms. Also what about knives and swords? I've seen some of those as well, but I think the knife of Rambo should stay because...well, it's the knife of Rambo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== My gripe on Empty pages ==

I've been seeing a lot of new pages lately. The problem is that they are a blank! Nothing, not even a list of guns. What the fuck? I mean, a list of guns with no photos is ok, but just a fucking blank page? Do the people that do that expect someone else to do the work for them? They mind as well type down, "someone list the guns and put up pics for me cause I am lazy as fuck to even give a list." At least writing that down says something. Not just a blank.
:We all understand your pain Exy, we need a more efficient way to let the anonymous users know that if you make a page, you got to do the work. You gotta watch the language though, people will see it and think it is okay to do often. We all do it, but we don't want it done for no reason. Just ignore the empty pages, let them do the work eventually. If they don't, delete the pages. Half of them are movies I've never heard of anyway. Keep an eye out for [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]], I'll have them done this week. -GM
::What about that new member who create thirty or so new movie pages (some of which barely had one gun in them) and then never filled out any of those pages? I'm tempted to give people a little time, but for movies in which I question their relevance to this site, I'm also tempted to get rid of blank pages and let people create them when they're ready to populate them with information. MPM
:::Sorry for the foul launguage. I'm used to talking on forums where the F word is acceptable when you are pissed. Swears is culturally part of any language and sometimes it slips and I like to think we're all adults here that do use swears in real life when it is required. Anyway. Nice job on the [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]] pages. I've only done one movie that had ONE gun in it and it was [[The Forbidden Kingdom]] and even I did the work for it. I guess the anonymous users might also just be curious guys online and just hope we know what movie they are talking about, have it, and would take the time to tell them what guns are in it by doing the pages, but maybe on the main page, someone should put down rules of how to operate this site. I mean, I wanted to put a new qoute into the qoute section, but can't cause I don't know how to do it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

=="jacked" summaries"==
One thing that irks me is people 'cut and pasting' a plot summary completely from IMDB. This is not only against IMFDB rules, but if any mods from IMDB sees them, they can make an stink about it. I'm tempted to 'erase' any pirated summaries and put a note to the original writer ''"'''Write your own summary in your own words'''. It isn't too hard, even to re-arrange the sentences and replace some words to make it LOOK like you wrote it yourself. Just don't lift them word for word from another well known source. IMDB itself has a rule that you must write your own summaries and not lift them from other 3rd party sources. So does IMFDB.org. "'' Of course there are so many jacked firearm images here, this may be hypocritical. Which is why I'm working so hard to get IMFDB their own exclusive gun images. But it's one thing to upload an image of an impossible to get gun which no one has, versus taking the time to type a few sentences...
:I agree. I did the same thing with my [[Black Lagoon]] page when I got here, but I took it off mainly because I didn't see the need for a summary at the beginning of the page that is THAT long winded. People are here for the guns and if they want to know what the movie or show is about, they just look it up. I don't know, I stopped writing summaries for movies and shows long ago. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I think we don´t need summaries.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I disagree with those who think "we don't need no stinkin' summaries..." For those people who have NOT seen the movie a SHORT summaries are okay. I've put them on some of my pages, usually when I have something interesting to add. I do like them when someone puts a page for a movie so obscure that I have no idea what it's about (and I don't want to have to go hunting around the web to find out, capice?) I added summaries (and others did) for those REALLY OBSCURE East german B&W movies that are on the site. Who created those pages anyway? Like anyone's going to see Black and white German language communist era DDR movies .... oh well. I can always start creating pages for the cinema of 1930s Lithuania! hahahaha. But having no summary for SOME of the pages sucks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I found some summaries to stick out too much. Maybe a sentence or two to just give the jist, or a catch phrase like, but really I don't do summaries anymore. But I'll think about it for the anime ones simply cause some of them are harder to find or most people wouldn't have interests in them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

==Leaving your sign==
If you want people to know who you are when you write things on pages and discussion boards, put four ~ symbols after your message. Your user name and time/date are automatically shown. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 20:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

:See?

:: What he said. ;)
::: I agree wholeheartedly ...
::::Yes. Just yes. --Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

==Problems with formatting==
Anyone notice that some of the wikipages don't show the spaces that we put between sections (so that the formats don't get all jacked up when we have photos on the right).

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Benelli_M_Series_Super_90_Shotguns

I've been trying to fix the benelli shotgun page for a bit now, and every time I add spaces, it doesn't show up in the page. Is this a glitch?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Should we have templates? ==

Like in Wikipedia?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

It WOULD make this site a bit more...colorful than the standard white background, but if it's too much work, then it's up to whoever really runs this place.

:In all honesty, what this site needs most of all is cross-referencing of some kind, so that if somebody enters the name of a gun in one page, it shows up on another. It's a downfall of Wikis in general, and this one in particular. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

==Views==

Is there a way how I could check how many people viewed may page like on the home page the top 5 articles says how many people have viewed are page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 01:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== How do i replace a image? ==

How do i replace a image?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Updating ==

Can someone please update or add pictures to these listed pages:

*3000 miles to Graceland

*Blue streak

*The Mask

*Snatch

:The Mask and Snatch are on my to-do list. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== music videos ==

should be included on the site...i want to know the guns used in protest the hero's video for blindfolds aside...if anyone knows, please share, or at least where i can find out

== main page movies ==

What exactly is the criteria for a film to be featured on the main page? I was thinking of submitting some (unless there are already enough as it is). - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Popular, critically aclaimed (but gun heavy I guess, something that wins 9 oscars but has three guns isn't a good idea), and it should have a decent amount of guns on it (like 15-20 seems about right).

== Too many screencaps!!! ==

I'm getting a bit frustrated w/the amount of screencaps we're loading up. Is there any way we can limit the number? The pages are becoming much too long & scrolling takes forever. I know Wikis are not democracies so a vote would be out of the question but can we all please stop indulging our screecap skills by putting ALL our favorite stills from these films up & just have about 2-3 images per firearm? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 20:14, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:At least for the front page I have to agree - the loading is taking way too long. I'm going to disable the featured page for a while and see how it goes. I can't afford to upgrade the server at the moment to handle the huge load. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

::Can this be done on individual pages too? Take a look at the page for Shoot 'em Up for instance, seems like everyone just had to throw their favorite frame in there. Also, the Quick & the Dead is pretty bad too... Also, would it be bad in etiquette to go into pages & start cutting out images that are repetitive or unnecessary? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 18:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse the language but FUCK YOU. And if you start removing my screencaps I'll be sure to remove ''you'' from the site. (sorry about the outburst but it is very rude to blatantly bash my hard work and contributions to this site, and it pisses me off gravely) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::No one was bashing the hard work or contributions. Don't confuse legitimate criticism with a personal attack, and your response back was a personal attack and beneath you, especially the fine responses you usually write (and the fact that you're a MOD now). I hope you eventually understand that I also mean no disrespect as well. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

GM's comment aside I'm all for detailed screencaps. Heck I'm going to be trying to collect a bunch for myself. Unfortunantly the interesting films I have are VHS. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

:He's got a point though. I dont want to be rude, but when every single time the certain gun is shown, it doesnt really need a picture. 5 tops is ok. GM, you are very nortorious for 13-14 pictures of the same gun. i can understand showing cycling misfeeds/changes in guns, but on the Punisher page, you dont really need that many pictures of Castle shooting Spoon and Dante. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
::You shouldn't have to apologize. The members who seem to LOVE tons of screencaps take it personally, like you're attacking THEM, not the decision to display endless screenshots of guns. I think when they think about it, they may realize that no one is trying to be insulting. When I screencap, I edit the pictures. Sure I might have 14 shots, but I choose the best couple and cull the rest. I don't feel compelled to force everyone to look at every since solitary screenshot, just because I took the time to do them. Just like a writer or artist, you must have the maturity to cut out what is excess, even though at the time it sucks to cut out stuff you like. Looks like some of the new (i.e. young also) members are trying to outdo the record for ridiculous screencaps. [[We Were Soldiers]] is now a page that I no longer like to look at, now that I have to scroll down for ten minutes to see the next section. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== how do i screencap ==

i have many films, games exc that i want to screencap. please can someone tell me how to?
:You need a DVD-rom drive on your computer. Play the movie on a DVD player with a screencapture function. The images will be saved to a folder. Cut off any widescreen or full screen bars and convert the image to a JPG so it can be placed here. You'll need a photo editor such as Corel Photoshop or even Paintshop. Then go to the Upload file section and upload them on the site. Copy the picture's linkage (will say something like "Image:name.jpg") then put the image in double brackets [[]] and paste the linkage. now you'd take this image and write it like this:

(double bracket)Image:name.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Comment.(double bracket)

Look at some other pages to see this in use. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

You can actually screencap with any Windows computer, very easily. Just use the Print Screen button and paste it into whatever program you want; you can then crop out the interface and whatnot. You can also use Print Screen + Alt so that you only get what's inside the window instead of everything (I think PrtScn + Alt is what you want.

[[Special:Contributions/72.189.150.170|72.189.150.170]]

==Should this picture be on the M16 Page?==
hahahaha. The CHAMPION of customization in the history of firearms! .....
[[Image:74ea0f45a31c.gif]]

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
:Oh hell yea! that looks awesome! [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
::Looks like that GIF took a lot of work to make... Awesome though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::That would be perfect for the M16 page, so definitely yes!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Well where on the page should this be on? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

:Interesting enough I don't see this thing transform into an M16A1 or A2
::M16A1 is dead and gone. the a2 series is the new and improved. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

Slow it down a touch and it's perfect! And to satisfy those who are sticklers about accuracy: split the animation into "A1" and "A2" animations (one for each M16 variant).
EDIT: Isn't there a silencer for it? Counter-Strike says so...
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

How awesome is that AR-15 builder, just love doing it for the hell of it.

== Grammar/Spelling ==
-
- Hello gentlemen. First off I just want to start of by telling you guys how much I enjoy this site. Anyhow, I come visiting from IMCDb (Internet Movie Car Database). I'm an administrator over there and given my interest in weapons and the similarity between the two sites, I've taken an interest in visiting your site. However, I've noticed a problem that I wanted to bring up to your guys' attention. Often times there are grammar and spelling mistakes and I think that it is something that you guys can improve upon a bit more. I don't mean to sound like I'm criticizing or I'm calling anybody stupid or anything, but it's things like that that could make the site look cleaner and more appealing. And yes, I do understand that english may not be the first language for some of the posters here. My point is that I'm just giving some friendly advice from who I'd like to think of as someone from a "sister" site. Thanks gents...keep up the great work.

:: We have tons of contributors who aren't even old enough to shave yet. Does that tell you anything? GM45 once described it as a small group of Mods/ Super users fighting against the cresting tide of the ocean, or something to that effect. :) An apt metaphor. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

:::Hi, I am a fan of IMCDB myself (it was where I learned all about how M1 Abrams tanks in Hollywood are mocked-up Centurions). I do appreciate your concerns about grammar/spelling and agree with you that it needs to be addressed. However, being that (unlike IMCDB) we are a Wiki open for all to edit, it's somewhat inevitable that this will be an issue. I appreciate the fact that this is less of an issue with IMCDB due to the format of the site, and at times, I wish we could integrate elements of IMCDB into this site to standardize things a bit (I still get annoyed when I see people who call a Beretta 92F a "Berretta M92F" even though it says at the top of the page that this is not the correct spelling). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Fellas, I greatly appreciate the response. I understand the situation with your site and we ourselves deal with some of the same issues, as far as having younger members whose grammar and knowledge isn't exactly ideal. But thanks a lot for the response. And as I said earlier, keep up the good work.

:::::Thanks. We also have foreign contributors who don't have that great of a grasp of English. We also have guys who just don't know how to spell. One of my buddies who is a combat vet, former 82nd Airborne, types like a two year old on his computer. I jokingly say that I have to create a special filter for Babelfish to decypher what he is typing! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

===Our own movie===
I was thinkin'. We've got a lot of people on this site, a lot of them are very talented, we could probably make our own movie someday. I know a good script writer with an idea already mostly-formed, maybe imfdb should have a meet up and make a movie. We could probably all pool our resources and make an awesome one. Just a whimsical fantasy...-protoAuthor
:A movie based on a website? What the fuck? That won't work. I am sorry but, that just won't work.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, I mean we all pitch together and make an action movie. Not based on the website, but the website has the people and resources. As in, a community effort. -protoAuthor
:::That would be cool if only the movie we make is a cheesy action movie in the same vein as Commando, then we can do it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::::hahahahaha, uh no. :) Some of us actually work in the movie industry and it's not easy to make a movie, even a crappy backyard effort one with a video camera bought from Walmart. You're right, it's a whimsical fantasy, but you need a TON of talented people who know what they are doing in ALL of the positions of a film production. Not just armorers but you need everyone, a good script, good actors, a good director, a good producer (which amazingly is really hard since the producer is supposed to be a manager, NOT someone who micro manages the work by everyone else), a good crew, skilled camera operators, good cameras, pro lighting gear and a good DP or cinematographer. Oh did I mention TONS of $$ (you could spend a fortune just feeding the crew and paying for insurance and permits - salaries not withstanding). Wait, you also need office staff, pre production staff and post production staff and facilities (digital capture, color correcting, editing, sound engineering and editing) and then where are you going to sell it? You need marketing, posters, ads, trailers, a website, the list goes on and on. No I'm not making fun of your comment. It was funny and just that, fantasizing, but I know you are just throwing this bit out there and are not serious. Because it's akin to someone saying "hey let's stage our own high orbit launch of a satellite, all we need is ....." :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm currently working on an amatuer backyard crap job now, and it is actually turning out quite well. We don't have tons of money but we can fund things like fake blood, spare t-shirts (to cover in fake blood), and blanks. As for lighting, so far everything has been working well for us. We actually have enough filmed now that I'm confident this will be a good movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Help with VLC ==
I need help with my VLC Media Program. When i screencap movies the program screencaps like normal, but when i upload my images to IMFDB the images stay like this:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-252103Mk2.jpg|thumb|none|512px|Charlie Sheen in [[Platoon]]. <s>The Problem here is that even when the screencap is in 1200x configuration, the screencap is still away too small.</s> Fixed!]]
:Can Anyone help me with this?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:I don't have that problem, but I'm checking out the settings to see what might cause it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

::I imagine you've got this sorted by now, but it's because you missed the letter "p." It's "px" as in "pixel," not "x" as in "times." And that still won't make it larger than the image itself is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Discussions on Articles==

I love this site, I have wasted many hours just browsing the wonderful collection of articles. My only qualm is some users feel that the article pages are also discussion pages to argue the validity of someone's addition. There is nothing that irks me more that when i am reading about a movie and then it becomes some kind of forum. I think this should be regulated to make the site more professional.

:We try to regulate it and throw those discussions on the discussion pages of articles but there are still some users that discuss on the articles.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

::I agree, that has been a thorn in my side too. Nothing worse than to go to the trouble of creating a thorough, tidy-looking article only for people to clutter it up with chatter and arguements that should be saved for the article's talk page. that 'discussion' tab is up there for a reason, people! [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

:::I couldn't agree more, it turns me off when I'm going through a neat looking page, and then come across a bunch of comments and arguments. If we could just get into the habit of using the talk page for these arguments, then we'll be more obligated to use them more often.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== This video ==

Have any of you lazy sons-of-bitches seen this video:
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3FFThpkyg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3FFThpkyg]

It's fucking awesome let me tell you. And no, i'm not spamming links just watch the video. It's about us!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:That's been out for a while now; take a look at some of those old gun pics on there, like the long since replaced M16A1/M203 with the 20-round mag. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::I know but i never seen it. It's really funny.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately some our members are a bit too thin skinned. This guy wasn't being insulting. He was intentionally obnoxious trying to be a 'showman'. Some guys "telling him to fuck off" in the comments makes us look a bit immature. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== How? ==
how do i create my own page to say what my favourite weapons and movies are and what contributions i have made? please can someone tell me.
:You have to register first and, contribute to this site. Bye!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
i'd hate to sound like an idiot but i've just done that (register and contribute) now what do i do?
:On the upper right corner of your screen there is an panel with thing about your username. Press the one with your name on it and write on it. Also, when editing, there will be an link with "Editing Help". Click it and read it. Now you know how to edit. Yay! Also, put four ~ after any of your messages. That way, you will sign you messages and people will know who you are.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Movie Article Request "Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow" ==

There are many guns, but I request this mostly for a big mistake in it. When Sky Captain is running on a log with a Colt 1911 (silver) in hand and drops it, the computer rendering shows a revolver of some sort. It is probably the same as the one in the scene where Sky Captain is at his desk and the reporter comes in, and he stops her at gunpoint.

Sorry if I was vague, but my memory's a little fuzzy.
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:I actually own that film and I ''could'' screencap it ,but I effing hate that movie. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:34, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

:Is it really that bad? It looked like it sucked, but I wasn't sure-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

::It's just really corny. It tries to capture the feel of movies made in the 20's or whenever the hell the movie's suppose to take place, but it is just super, super, super, corny. If it was intentionally corny, it would be funny. But it's not and that's what makes it bad. The only redeeming part is that Angelina Jolie is in it. Unfortunately, she's always in a uniform and has a patch over one eye, so it's not really worth it in the end. The dues ex Machina near the end doesn't help, or the fact that the female lead is the type of person that would push a button for no other reason then it says "DO NOT PUSH". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 21:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== How do I ==

get pictures on a page? not screencaps but an actor holding a gun in a movie?

== Fixed Width 1000px ==

I'm working on making the front page a fixed width design... let me play with the ads and featured articles for a couple days. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

:Created a new template for featured articles, you can play with it at [[Template:FeaturedArticle]]. I've currently only added 3:10 to Yuma and Live Free or Die Hard - feel free to add more. [[User:Bunni|bunni]]

==Random screencap==
Is there any chance of bringing this feature back? I liked looking at the different screenshots. [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 11 Oct 2009
::Do you prefer having the site crash more often than not, for this little inconvenience?

==Still having problems with the SITE==
I am getting 503 error messages all the time. 80% of the time I can't get it. Until this is fixed, I am taking a break because I waste HOURS trying to rewrite edits and multiple attempts to upload images. Don't know what we can do about it. Is there something we can do, like have a one week moratorium on any members uploading anything to see if all the hits from views is what is causing it? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I emailed Bunni about this a few days ago, so I hope he'll get it fixed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

==Forum problems - can't log in==
Which is why I am posting this here. I can't get into the Forum. When I type in (CORRECTLY) my user name and password, I get this error message that I have ''used up ALL Of my five (5!) login attempts'' (WTF?). Just '''today''' when I tried to login in, the error message said '''''"You've used up six (6!) of your five (5) login attempts.''''' You cannot try again for another fifteen minutes. Again WTF? I tried ONCE and it didn't take and the system thought I had tried many times. Again, something is wrong with the servers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'm getting that error also. My guess is that it is because someone is trying to hack our forum accounts; so that is probably why it says we have used up our login attempts. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== I need help with a Link problem ==

I started a State of Grace page, which shows up when entered in the search box, but when I went to add the info from the movie to the actors pages the link back to State of Grace is said to be deleted. Like when I went to the Sean Penn page and entered what pistol he used and entered State of Grace, when I click on State of Grace it brings to a page that says:

'''Warning: You are recreating a page that was previously deleted.'''

You should consider whether it is appropriate to continue editing this page. The deletion log for this page is provided here for convenience:
• 18:32, 15 April 2009 Gunmaster45 (Talk | contribs) deleted ''"State of Grace" ‎ (content before blanking was: 'This excellent movie starred Sean Penn, Ed Harris, and Gary Oldman. Penn, an undercover cop infiltrating the Irish mob in NYC carried a Smith 6906 in .9mm with a Ruger SP101 backup gun. Gary Oldman, a thug, carried ...')''

Does this mean I need to copy and paste all the work I did into that deleted page? Searching for the movie from the search box will bring you to the page I created from scratch, but the link from the actors pages brings you to that notice of an old deleted page. Can anyone help? --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 03:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

There was a small difference in titles between the link and the page you created. The link was State of Grace and the title of your page was State Of Grace, so that's why it didn't link. I made a redirect on the previously deleted page so it should work now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Movies Page ==

I don't know if anyone has noticed but in the movies page King Kong (1933) is listed under B and there's no entry for it under K. Reason I'm saying this is because I guess only admins can edit category pages? because nothing pops up when I click edit.-[[User:Shooter2|Shooter2]]

::I fixed it. Someone put B&W in the same Category line as "movie". YOu put the categories in separate lines. WHen you put B&W in the same line, it thinks that you want the movie categorized in the "B" category [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

== Movies deletion ==

Could you please delete [[The Alamo (2004)]] since there is already is the title under ''[[Alamo (2004), The]]''? Thanks--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:48, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
== Redirects ==
Can someone please teach me how to create redirects?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

==Non Related Quotes==
How does the quote "Come quietly or there will be...trouble. --[[RoboCop]]" relate to firearms? Should this quote be removed from the featured quote list or not?
:I thought that as well, so I deleted it --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

==Can't get into the FORUM .... AGAIN!!!!!!!==
If anyone is interested as to why I have NOT deleted spammers, I CAN"T GET INTO THE FORUM!!!!! every time I try to log in, it boots me out! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
:Sucks for you, dude. Lets just hope that whatever is causing the problem is fixed

== Do a page on Pavement ==

Can someone please do a page on a movie called Pavement that stars Robert Patrick and Lauren Holly filmed in 2002. I was interested the weapons SWAT used and was pretty sure at one point even though she hadn't fired her weapon while clearing a house the top slide of her sidearm was locked back. I'd do it myself but I don't know where to find this movie as I saw it on TV one night and haven't done it before so wouldn't know how to make a page. Cheers
:Pavement was filmed in South Africa, even though the story is set in San Francisco. Funny how San Francisco, suddenly looks like the scenes from District 9? Lauren Holly used a Vektor CP1 pistol, and yes, she pops out and her slide is open, but it looks like she fired and the editor removed the sequence of her firing, wanting instead for the crazy dude to force her to withdraw by firing his shotgun first. It was an editorial decision that screwed up what was already filmed. The SWAT team used South African R4s, Vektor CR21s, some dummy SIG 550s and one M16A1(probably a replica). The weapons are what one expects from a South African production. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

== Actor's Pages ==

I see that a lot of the actor pages are being converted to the "table" format, but I don't know if it's clear what should be in the first category. Should the guns be placed first before what movie the actor used them in? I would prefer it this way, because it's easier to read that way. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
::You're right in pointing this out. I see NEW MEMBERS are changing the order in the tables on the ACTOR pages. Traditionally it's been WEAPON, then CHARACTER, then MOVIE TITLE, then notes. That format was chosen because it flows like a 'sentence'. I.e. John Doe has used the following ...... a [[Beretta 92FS]] as Krusty A. Clown in ''Attack of the Killer Cartoons'' (note), (year). WE should formalize a format and then institute it in the rules. Thanks for pointing this out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Request ==

can someone do Wrongfully Accused with Leslie Nielsen. the reason I ask is because there is a strange LMG version of an M134 in it, and i would like to know what the hell it is, and if it is real.

== A question ==

So, this wiki has articles about video games, anime and animated films which are either 3d representations or drawings of guns. So why are stop-motion films, and other animation of this kind not allowed here? Why are they an exception?
::That answer is in the rules. The representations of guns are crude and not appropriate to waste IMFDB resources on. We haven't even covered the majority of our CORE genres (Films, Television shows, Anime & VG). And many of our pages are very incomplete or lame. So we tend to discourage new members from trying to introduce even MORE genres for us to cover. That and in those genres the guns are too crude to be listed as anything in particular. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Site working much better! ==

The Site seems to be working again! Thanks so much to all those who worked on it! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

== Hello! Meet the new user msMaryStrikens. ==

Hello! I really liked your forum, especially this section. I just signed up and immediately decided to introduce myself, if I'm wrong section, ask the moderators to move the topic to the right place, hopefully it will take me well... My name is Mary, me 29 years, humourist and serious woman in one person. I apologize for my English [[Special:Contributions/89.107.104.99|User: 89.107.104.99]]

:''(Note: this message was moved by the MODs from an incorrect page to the main discussion page)'' [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== Question: Live fire in movies ==

Hi, first of all, please excuse my English, I am not a native speaker. Secondly, please excuse I aks my question here although I know it is not the proper place for this, but I found no forum in this wiki. So here is my question:

When filming the German movie ''Spione'' (''Spys'', but there never was an English version) in 1928, there was live gun firing because they could not simulate it with special effects (1928), and the gun in the scene in question was fired in the direction of one of the actors. Strangely enough this caused a furor only because filming the scene was repeated several times by the director, who was was the lover of the actress in the scene, but it seems there was no talking about the live firing of a gun in a movie ''per se'' at all. So was using live fire in movies normal in a time they could not use special effects? Are there more films in which they used live fire instead of special effects? Thanks, Gustav

==[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imfdb IMFBD Wikipeda Page]==
It's been put up for speedy deletion. Could better writers than me go explain why it shouldn't? -[[User:JonathanDP|JonathanDP]] 18:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:I'm not sure I could myself. I mean, a Wikipedia article about another Wiki? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Too late, it's already gone. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Dude, there're many wikipedia articles on other wikis. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wikis Don't believe me?]--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 23:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I was actually the one who wrote that article (Rockmandrum on Wikipedia). I wrote that article because there are also different databases such as the IMCFD (Internet Adult Film Database) and I thought IMFDB should go there as it's a database, but my article got tagged for the lack of sources though there are some sources out there. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

==Featured Quotes question...==

I dunno who is in charge of the featured quotes section, but I'd like to know. Can we, the registered users, propose new ideas of featured quotes? 'Cause I got a few, and I'm sure other guys have 'em too. [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:45 March 7, 2010 (UTC)

== Quote suggestions ==

You might want to make your suggestions in the discussion section of the [[Template:Quote]] page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

==Page that can't be edited==

Seems that the [[Ga-rei: Zero]] page can't be edited. There a problem with this or should it be just deleted instead to start all over? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 20:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Just Cause 2==
Hey guys. I know the first Just Cause had no realistic weapons, but that changes with JC2. So far even from the demo I've made out a Desert Eagle, M4-type rifle, MP5/UMP cross, and an M136 AT4. If anyone could screencap the game, I'd gladly do descriptions and the rest. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

==Hi there==
New member here. Just wanted to drop a line. awesome site! Some pics I recognize off the net. Just a question. where do you get the great gun pictures from? I used to use Security arms and Guns of the world for reference but you guys have some of the best pics I've seen, including some that I have never seen anywhere else. If you license from some stock photo site, please let me know. I would be interested in getting access to their image library! :) Kyle

-For the most part pictures that are used are from MoviePropMaster2008, he is IMFDB's armorer, he has a lot of the pics of weapons on white backgrounds that you see. Many from movies they helped with. However, he doesn't have all of them. Just check for the picture you are looking before uploading any of your own. --[[User:Camden Hennis|Camden Hennis]] 16:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Director's Pages ==

If I've seen a page on the site like Hurt Locker or Face/Off or even Heat, I might like to know what other films the director has done, so I think the pages are helpful in that respect. Judging by the amount of pages we have for actors who have maybe used or carried a gun once, compared to how many directors pages we have, I don't think you're saving that much on space. Also, if you're looking to make this site a really good reference site, omitting these pages just doesn't make sense. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

- Well, next thing you know, we'll include pages/categories for Producers, Production designers, etc. There's only so much this place needs to put on here. There's already an 'Internet Movie DataBase' that has all that other stuff. Like MPM said on another page - Putting a bunch of emphasis on what directors/actors/etc did what takes away from the primary focus of the site, which is to display and discuss the firearms and info directly relating to them. The actors are only here because they're the ones actually seen in movies handling the firearms, but anything other than that I feel would just be too much. If you want to find out about Directors and the like, again, there's IMDB as well as other sites on the internet for that. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Franchise pages ==

Like director pages, can we make pages for particular game franchises, like all of the Call of Duty games or all the Medal of Honor games? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:21, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

- You mean like list pages, like we have for movie franchises, film genres and such? If so, that would be fine, would make reference/look-up of a particular title in a series easier. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

:No, unless the franchises have tons of titles that are completely different. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out all of the games titled "Call of Duty" or Medal of Honor" belong to a certain series of games. And I have not seen a surge of titles that OMIT the franchise identifiers like a new title that is officially a part of the Call of Duty series that doesn't have 'Call of Duty' in the title. Unless that happens, the franchise identifiers are NOT NECESSARY and add to the overall clutter that IMFDB is trying to avoid. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::I was just talking about the really big franchises, and I guess it'd only apply to the CoD and MoH series. There are a DOZEN games in each series, several of which I've never even heard of. Users here are obviously fans, given how detailed the pages are and the length of the discussion pages. Maybe a chronological listing? Or a glorified disambiguation page? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::There should be a ''see also'' addition to the pages, however, a glorified disambiguation page is not a bad idea. But the pages STILL need a 'see also' section at the bottom of the page that is complete. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Organizing firearms by type ==

I'm just organizing some pages. [[Heat]] , [[Ronin]] , [[McQ]], [[Public Enemies]] , [[Reign of Fire]] and so forth. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. Just wanted to get that out there so nobody sends me hate mail. I'm not messing with anybody's hard work. Just helping to organize. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

- I took a gander at those pages, I actually like the grouped-together firearms, again, makes reference on the contents of a page easier. Especially if a page has a lot of guns that can be grouped under said categories like those pages.

Although some people like doing the pages by chronological appearance of the firearms (T2, as well as my own page, [[Nothing But Trouble]], for instance) but those pages either don't have a lot of guns or are very diverse.

But in pages where there are a lot of guns that can be grouped under some general types (Pistols, SMGs, Shotguns, Assault Rifles, etc) I think it helps. I've certainly seen some pages re-organized as such and it helped. I won't say it's the thing to do for ALL pages, but many would benefit from it. Just my thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm doing it to the pages that I created and a few pages with many many firearms like [[Heat]]. But I want to do it slowly. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Made for TV movies ==

What's the ruling on made for TV movies? I've seen them go either ways on this site. Dirty Dozen: the Next Mission is listed as a movie, while Lost Battalion is listed as TV, despite both being made for TV movies. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::'''What are you talking about? The Lost Battalion is not listed that way'''. For the record, made for TV Movies (or as called in Hollywood MOW for "Movie of the Week" as the major networks used to do, are listed as movies. They are not episodic series or Mini-series. If the entire thing is shown in a single showing then it's a movie. These made for TV movies are sometimes theatrically released overseas, and many of them are released on video/DVD as movies. Anyway that's the rule and I still don't see any violation of that rule. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I was referring to the weapons pages that link to it. For example, the M1917 pistol and rifle pages both have Lost Battalion under Television, while the M1911 and Chauchat entries have it under Film. And others not at all. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Well that's an error on those gun pages. If you see errors like that, which I am sure there are plenty of on IMFDB, please fix them when you see them. There is a LOT of breaks in cross indexing. I've long berated members for creating pages and NOT cross indexing them to actors and gun pages. And with new members creating new pages every other hour or so, the problem is just going to get bigger. All IMFDB members should try to fix cross indexing errors when they see them. Heck, there are pages I've made that I forgot to cross index some of the weapons entries on. But we must be vigilant and try to keep IMFDB accurate and up to date as possible. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

== The Last Hunt ==

Hi it's been a while since I've seen this but I remember Robert Taylor using a massive Winchester rifle. I was wondering if this was a Model 1886 since he was hunting buffalo with it and it used a .45-90 bullet.

I've seen a Model '86 Winchester rifle in the Monte Walsh remake and in a recent episode of Pawn Stars and they didn't really look as big as Robert Taylor's. I was just wondering if anyone knew if it was an '86 or maybe something else.

==Gun-releated quotes on actor/actress page==
I thought of an idea while looking at the quotes section: how about some quotes said by an actor/actress can go on their page? For example, Al Pacino's quote, "Say hello to my little friend," from [[Scarface]] can also go on his page, too. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

== Screen Used movie firearms ==

I have recently been searching the website for weapons which were pictures of actual movie firearms, example being weapons in Quentin Tarantino films.
if anyone could list some films for me that would be great. These are some of the ones i have already found:

*[[Scarface]]
*[[Pulp Fiction]]
*[[Reservoir Dogs]]
*[[True Romance]]
*[[Jackie Brown]]
*[[Lethal Weapon]] series
*[[Die Hard]] series
*[[Predator]]
*[[The Untouchables]]
*[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]
*[[The Spirit]]
*[[Lord of War]]
*[[Beverly Hills Cop]]
*[[We Were Soldiers]]
*[[Tightrope]]
*[[The Enforcer]]
*[[The Dead Pool]]
*[[Dirty Harry]] - no S&W 29 unfortunately
*[[The Quick and the Dead]]
*[[Man on Fire]]
*[[Miami Vice - Season 3]]
*[[The Getaway (1972)]]
*[[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]]
*[[The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean]]
*[[Machete]]
*[[Fair Game]]
*[[Ghosts of Mars]]
*[[Wild Wild West]]
*[[S.W.A.T. (2003)]]
*[[Collateral]]
*[[Hidalgo]]
*[[Appaloosa]]
That's all I could think of, for now, also many have the pics on the site may not say they were used in a certain film, but a lot of them are movie guns.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

:::(a) Thank you. :) You're actually just chronicling my work for the site. 90% of the screen used photos I shot exclusively for IMFDB and I kinda wondered myself just how many titles I've covered. (b) it's sad but true that many OTHER gun pics are of guns that I'm certain have appeared in stuff, but unless record have been checked and verified, it can't be said with any sort of certainty. So we have TONS more movie used weapons than not in photographs. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:We also have several guns from ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. At some point, I think we need to make a page with all of the screen-used movie guns that MoviePropmaster has photographed for us. And then I also need to make a page with the gun pictures that my contact at ISS sent me. There are a lot of them on this site. Of course, there are also some that we've taken from other sites (like YourProps and PropStore), but I'd probably just put the gun pictures that are IMFDB exclusives. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::That seems like a good idea MT.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

[[Book of Eli, The]] has that kind of stuff on its page and [[The Unit]] as well, if you want to be hardcore about it. [[Spades of Columbia]]

== Missing firearm (The Peacemaker) ==
Just got done watching this movie & there is a scene between the Russian General & one of the bad guys in the back of the truck (about 1 hour 15 minutes in) & I'm sure the gun that the General threatens him with is a Steyr GB pistol, he also uses it to shoot at the approaching helicopters, could someone else confirm this & update the page?

== Empty firearm ==
In some films you see that when a gun is fired, the chamber clicks empty but the slide doesn't lock back and I was just curious as to how they manage to do that?
:If it's showcased in a film, then it was intentional. Many directors who are unfamiliar with guns will use that action to indicate that a gun is empty.
:'''''Scene:''' Bad guy points pistol at face of good guy. It is a Beretta 92FS. He pulls the trigger dramatically. "click" nothing happens. Bad guy has panicked look on his face. "Click" "Click"! as he continues to pull the trigger. "Aha!" yells the hero as he swats away the empty gun and punches the bad guy in the face.'' DOH!
:It's done via editing. I seriously doubt most directors would end a gunfight with the phenomenon of a dud round (though dud rounds have appeared in the storylines of some shows). Or a bad primer. Or a worn or damaged magazine which does not engaged the slide lock. Or a worn or damaged slide. But seriously, anyone who fires a gun can pretty much tell when it's empty and devoid of rounds, unless it's not their gun and they're completely unfamiliar with it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Bad magazines...its not the desired option on semi-autos.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== glock variants ==
i just wondered, is a Glock 19 the same as a Glock 23 with the exeption of the caliber?

Yes

==Main Page error==
Has anyone ever gotten this error before? This happened to me many times. During this error, I cannot go to any pages unless there are links on a page and I'm logged out and I can't log in. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Mainpageerror.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

: I have had this happen to me, too. I am running up to date Firefox. It´s a rather odd error, really. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:I've encountered it as well. I usually run IE as my browser, and it sometimes carries on when I go through Google Chrome too. Tends to be accompanied with a fair amount of lag as well when it occurs. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:26, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

:I've never had this error before, but I only update or run programs if I have to. It's running on bare bones only. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 20:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

- I had this error as well Friday evening (running FireFox), but as we had a badass lightning storm that probably played havoc with the signal, that ain't too surprising (Lag/connection issue, like Orca alluded to). But I can't speak for you other guys, though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Page Format Change? ==

I recently noticed that the page justification seems to be locked down, making actor pages with the table format seem particularly squashed if there's a lot of information. Is there a reason for this? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Here's an example:
[[Image:Actor Page Format.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Before, the page would stretch down to fill out the entire screen, but now it seems to stop in the middle.

:- I also have that same issue, though my screen hasn't lost that much, in which case I'd say it's locked at a particular resolution (1024 I'd have to figure, based upon my own display res). Not to mention it's also present here on this talk page and other pages as well. I too wonder what that's all about. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 13:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

::Might be for the upcoming ad test on IMFDB. will have to wait and see. If that is the case the we will have to change the layout on the pages to something more standard.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 16:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
==best guns for an assassin==
what would be the best guns for an assassin????
:That would depend on the situation he's in. Is the the assassin shooting from a distance? Sniper rifle then. In a place where there are other people around that could hear a gunshot. Suppressed small caliber handgun. You should also remember there is a million and one ways to kill someone. A gun is just one of tools to use.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Choice guns for an assassin:
-H&K USP
-H&K Mk. 23
-Any Glock models
-Agent 47's AMT Hardballers
-Walther P99
-Walther PP or PPK
-FN FNP-45 or FNP-49
-FN Five-Seven
-Colt M1911
-Para-Ordinance P14-45 or P18.9
-Kimber Warrior
-Colt M1911 or Variants
-Beretta 92, 81, or 84
-Browning Hi-Powered
-Ruger Mk. II (Best Bet)
-Browning BDA
-Luger Or High-Standard if your old-school
-Makarov
-SIG P220, P226, P228, P229
-Steyr M9 or GB
-These are some of my personal choices, feel free to comment.
I understand that, but I was looking for something more precise, like in "Assassins" they make a big deal about using those Ruger .22, but in "Collateral" the hitman uses a H&K .45 (well, he also use a Ruger .22), in "The Replacement Killer" the killer is into Berettas 92f, but what would be the perfect gun for a profesional, smart and effective assassin??????

It's hard to say if their is a "perfect" assassin's weapon because people will always have opinions, but the Ruger Mk. 2 is definitely a Top 5, look up a video of a supressed Mk. 2 and you'll see what I mean. I would have to say that either a .380 or .32 pistol for stealth but .45 or 9mm for power. [[Czar]]

:In films like you mention, it's going to depend on what the writer or director chose to use. (Whether it was the ideal choice is another matter.) In Collateral he uses the H&K for the most part because noise isn't an issue and the .45 is a good round. He uses Ruger .22 only when in a restaurant. In the nightclub there's lots of people around, but he could get out with the crowd. The target also had several bodyguards. In the Replacement Killers the 92F was most likely chosen because Chow Yun-Fat used them in his prior films and knew how to handle them. There is no one gun that is the "perfect gun for a professional, smart and effective assassin." Since you're talking handgun distances there's too many good guns to choose from. Go with whatever you feel like in your story (I guess and hope that's the reason why you asked). If I had to choose I'd go with the 1911. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 12:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Agent 47 all the way, AMT Hardballers with optional longslide and supressor. More seriously, I guess a pistol like a Hi-Power or a Beretta 92 with a supressor would be good for closer range killings. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 14:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank ypu guys, Predator, I'm a scriptwritter, I don't own a gun and I don't want to kill anyone, so don't worry. I just like good assassins in movies, what about a H6K p7m8?????, It's such a compact gun for a 9mm, I always thought it was kind like a tactic gun, isn't it????? why Swat teams are into Kimbers?????
:Do you not speak English or are you just a kid? You grammar is terrible and with some many question marks at the end of your sentence, you must be a 12 year old or someone under 15. Also, it's very simple why SWAT like Kimbers, they like 1911s in general for its reliability. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:12, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== Listverse.com ==
Here's a cool little list I found on The List Universe.com about the 10 greatest firearms in history.

http://listverse.com/2009/10/07/top-10-greatest-firearms-in-history/

not such a good list IMO. Where is the Sturmgewher 44? Basically started the assault rifle revolution? The Winchester M1873 (they didn't call it the gun that won the west for nothing) sure the Henry was first, but the Winchester set the standard. [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 06:12, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

well, they can only fit ten in. [[User:jackbel]]

== This is ridiculous...==
anybody else think that the amount of pages slated for deletion is absolutely absurd and unneccesary?

We're cleaning out the pages that are either not good enough or not supposed to be on the wiki. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 22:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I am only restoring some of the pages that look like there was some work put into them. These can still be deleted, but I just want make sure that's what the consensus is. This is probably going to be discussed in the forum. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:06, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

: I made a note about the 'Documentary' matter in the discussion for the [[Mail Call]] page earlier. In any case, I'm sure the admins will let us know what will happen about all that in due course. Other than that, almost all the other pages slated for deletion are piss-poor pages that should indeed be in the Delete category. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

== Reviewguy/girl ==
So, did the search pay off? Do we have our own movie reviewer? What's the deal anyways? Just curious :)--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 20:46, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

:- I almost forgot about that.. Well, indeed, what of it? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:: Are we gonna get a section for film reviews? If so, are the reviews gonna be the "normal" kind (what we see in the papers, tv, etc.) or are the reviews gonna emphasize gun use/usage in films?

== A Question ==
How do I submit a quote from a movie so it will appear on the Featured quotes section? [[User:jackbel]]

: Go [[Template:Quote|here]] and simply edit it in according to the template. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Most Popular Gun? ==

I can't believe this hasn't been asked. So, Lets hear your views.

:- The top most viewed gun page on the site is the [[M1911 pistol series]] ‎(526,596 views), followed by the [[M16 rifle series]] ‎(420,778 views). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I actually meant popular by appearances. I've found out though [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:MostImages here] that it's the Beretta 92FS. Strange how the Annihilator 2000 is 2nd though?!

:That's because it is the icon that appears in the banner at the top of a page that is incomplete.--[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 11:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:: Indeed, by the 'Linked most' attribute, the Annihilator image stat is misleading - Exclude the pages with the Incomplete template and it is certainly NOT the second most used gun image. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:10, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

2010-10-28T21:00:56Z

SAMBAMA: /* Bolt-Action Shotguns */

__TOC__ 

==NCIS/Sons of Anarchy crossover arsenal==
Hey I'm writing a crossover between those two shows and would like a second opinion about the arsenal the 3 Nomads use. it's listed below.
Nomad’s weapons: In Trojan Horse and the sequels that will follow The Nomads employ a variety of guns and weapons to get the job done, however they usually carry them on their persons, their saddlebags, or in their Chevy van.
Their weapons include:
On person:
Sam: Glock 22, KaBar, Glock 26 on right ankle holster, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle
Vince: Glock 21, KaBar, 2 Glock 26s on a duel ankle holster on right ankle, S&W tactical boot knife on left ankle
Hank: Dual Glock 21s in shoulder rig, Big Daddy Jungle Knife, 1 Glock 30 on right ankle holster, Tiger shark combat knife on left ankle
In Saddle bags: 10 in each
Sam: 1 Sawed off Remington 1100, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 1 Tec 9, 2 Kimber Custom 45s, 3 Glock 17s, 1 Glock 34, 1 Berretta PX4 storm 45
Vince: 1 Sawed off Ithaca M37, 1 Walther P22 loaded with ratshot, 8 Glock 19s
Hank: 1 Sawed off Remington M870, 9 Glock 21s
106 in Van in a custom extra tire compartment in the back floor, gun rack, glove
compartments, and boxes:
60 Handguns:
30 Glock 17s
10 Glock 21s
10 Glock 22s
10 Glock 27s
15 Shotguns:
5 Sawed off Remington M870s
5 Sawed off Ithaca M37s
5 Benelli M4 tacticals
12 Assault Rifles:
12 AK 47s
11 Knives:
5 5” Tantos
1 Spartan fixed blade
3 13” Bowie Knives
2 Neck Knives
8 Melee:
3 Louisville Sluggers
1 9 iron golf club
2 sawed off pool cues
1 black jack
1 Brass knuckles

What do you guys think? Are these weapons appropriate for outlaw bikers?
Also heres the link to the story:http: //www.fanfiction.net/s/5643700/1/Trojan_Horse. tell me what you think.

==Bolt-Action Shotguns==
I have watched some youtube videos with people using a variety of bolt-action shotguns, one of the videos is called 16 ga one handed redneck style where he has modified this bolt-action shotty by sawing off the stock and adding a green finish, if you can identify it I would appreciate it.

==IMFDB = Internet Movie Firearms Data Base, right?==
That's an assumption from the obvious subject of this Wiki. Don't you think the full name should appear on the Main Page? I don't see it anywhere! Fine Wiki you've got going here. [[Special:Contributions/68.199.188.123|68.199.188.123]] 05:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:You are right! We should have the title INTERNET MOVIE FIREARMS DATA BASE somewhere boldly on the main page. I can EDIT the page, but it has a lot of wiki code on it and I don't want to mess anything up. Can someone else with access (and more wiki code experience) do this change? Can Bunni do this change? It seems pretty obvious and I can't believe we didn't catch it until now. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

::- I see now we have a big '''Internet Movie Firearms Database''' banner on the main page. Looks good. All the OCD nuts should be happy now! Yay! :b Seriously though, it is good to have it, thanks and nice job. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

==Oh, and another question==
Just watched very interesting commercial. Directed by [[Sam Raimi]] it's actually spoofing [[Desperado]]. There are guns, including [[Remington 1866 Derringer]], one of my personal favoties, i can recognize it everywhere. There's also [[John Saxon]] here. Can i do a page about this commercial? Also, if more global, can commercials and music videos be here, as they also media, like video games and movies. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 15:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know about that. That's getting too much out of scope, I think. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::NO Commercials, NO Music Videos. There are tons of commercials that play only in Europe or Asia and we can't verify any of that info here. For one thing, you can't BUY or rent the DVDs of television commercials and (the vast majority of) Music videos to screencap them, or more importantly, confirm the veracity of said pages. Yes, chances are you can find a (usually low rez version) on the Internet, but really, do people wonder about the guns in either of those types of visual media? If we include ALL visual media, then we would be forced to accept news broadcasts, documentaries, industrial or training videos, etc. etc. and veer farther from the central theme of being the MOVIE firearms database. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:08, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
::: You wrong actually - there are tons of DVD and festivals, that show commercials. And you can verify them via youtube Though, never mind. But can i do the thing on [[Sam Raimi]] page as a bonus like "Other Works" on IMDB? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 09:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

::::No YOU'RE WRONG, Kloga. You insist on adding things that are (a) unnecessary and (b) Stupid. I'm on the verge of banning just because you keep on pushing it and pushing when we say NO to your various ideas. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

- Commercials? Music videos? Are you joking? Man, there are literally zillions of commercials that have been made in the world, and I'm sure a healthy percentage of them have gun usage. There have also been loads upon loads of music videos, with a much higher percentage of them having firearms in them. All of which would make for a rather ugly number of additional pages. You're talking about increasing this site in size and organization by at least two or three-fold, if not far more. Be realistic. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

==Request: High Heels & Low Lifes==
While kinda chick-flick-ish, it's still a highly entertaining movie.. and has some really nice looking firearms. There is a scene where one of the main characters, Mason, is standing in the doorway of a darkened apartment, turns to face (three quarters) the camera and pulls out a gun. I have no idea what kind of firearm this is but it looks really awesome.. and if anyone can identify it would be much appreciated!

==Jacked pictures==
The following are pictures taken from my website. The first one is edited, but it's still my picture. The first version still has my copyright notice on it, as does the second picture. [[Image:M1891.jpg]] and [[Image:M39.jpg]] Please remove all versions of both these pictures from the database. I'm not very familiar with wikis or I'd do it myself. --[[User:7.62x54r.net|7.62x54r.net]] 23:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

==English Scripts==
To unregistered users. use English script when writing on these pages. Most of us are American and don't run asian word scripts on our computers. Thus Asian letters are unreadable to us and look like gibberish. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Screencap Legality ==
How do you know whether uploading screencaps violates copyright or not?
: Pretty sure it is okay because no one has hunted us down to sue us, but anyway, as long as you don't claim it is your work and credit only yourself, you should be okay. -GM
:: One thing I would advise you to do is not upload screenshots from pirated copies of movies that haven't been released yet on DVD and Blu Ray. I imagine that if someone working for one of the studios saw that, they would be very upset. They'll know the shots came from a bootleg if the movie isn't out on DVD yet, and they might just throw the book at us. Avoid this at all costs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Merging articles ==

Is it possible to merge an article with a pre-existing article? Every time I try to do this with particular types of guns, I get an error message that says, "A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name." For instance, if I wanted to move the HK91 article under the H&K G3 article (since the HK91 is a G3 variant, I don't think it needs its own page), I can't do this.
::To merge an article, take the article, copy all the information and put it on the new page in the format you wish to make. You can also do this if you wish to change the name of a page. Take the page that you copied everything from and delete everything on that page. Write on that page this exactly(minus quotes):
"#REDIRECT (then use double [ ] brackets) and write the name of the page EXACTLY AS IT IS. Screw up the name and it'll redirect no where.
:Example
# "#Redirect [[[[M16 rifle series]]]]"
Note:How I made it look finished is what it should look like. Not what it looks like when in the editing of the page. Hope I helped. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

This is probably rhetorical, but is this the same method of redirecting to a page, i.e. [[QBZ-95]] redirecting to [[Norinco QB rifle series]]? I noticed that a page for the QBZ-95 was deleted because there already was one (Norinco QB rifle series), but whenever you type in QBZ-95, there are absolutely no results for it, and that could be confusing for your everyday user..[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Let there be backups! ==
Ok, I've installed ruby on our dedicated server, signed up for Amazon's s3 storage service, and customized a ruby backup script to automatically backup the database and all image files at 4am pst and upload them to our s3 folder. The process really bogs down the box for a good 10 minutes, so I'm thinking once every 24 hours is fine, but I may go to once every 12 hours eventually... Thanks for putting up with the ups and downs during this time of transition.

Best,
Chris
[[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to our new server! This is the first of many steps I am taking to ensure we never lose data again. The site used to be hosted on shared hosting overseas - we now have a dedicated server housed in a co-location in San Jose, CA. Dedicated servers don't come cheap, but your time, effort, and contributions are now my number one priority.

I'm still transferring the images that have been uploaded over the last couple days, don't worry they're not lost!

==The McUzi==
It wasn’t until I read the ‘Raw Deal’ article on the “fake Uzi” that I realized Hollywood was dressing MAC-10s up as Uzis.

In ‘The Dog of War’ the mercenaries are supposed to be using Uzis. However some are using MAC-10s and some are using MACs dressed up as Uzis. The actors seem to change weapons randomly. For example, as the climactic battle begins Tom Berenger is using a real Uzi and Christopher Walken is using a silenced Uzi. However in the final minutes both are using McUzis. This is made painfully clear as Walken holds the gun to his face when reloading.

There are real MAC Uzi hybrids. These are civilian versions of the Uzi with a .45 barrel, bolt and a MAC-10 magazine well to accept the universal Grease Gun magazines.

The Hollywood guns are merely MACs with Uzi parts added on.

I would see to real reason to make a gun like this accept that the filmmakers wanted to use Uzis but ran out. Much like ‘Planet of the Apes’ when the studio ran out of ape costumes they simply used paper mask. If you look closely at the audience of Heston’s mock trial.

I captured some great stills to add to ‘The Dogs of War’ article.````

== moved from main page ==
We're on the new server and still working the bugs out - email me at cserrano@gmail.com if you're having any issues editing or logging in. The backup file is from early September 30, so most of yesterdays edits are missing - sorry GunMaster45 I'm working on it! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC) ''GunMaster45 I've recovered the latest version of the [[Street Kings]] page - anything else we're missing?'' [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 21:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
: I had the R9 pistol which I had uploaed today but I redid it. Will the pictures remain fuzzy and pixelated or is that just temporary? (Hopefully) -GM

If you find something missing from the old server you can still access it here 66.79.167.132/~imfdb/index.php?title=Main_Page [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 20:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:I had just uploaded some pics of the AR18 from Terminator and the Street Sweeper from Total Recall. Can you get them back, or should I upload them again? Also, MPM2008 uploaded some new gun pics, and I don't think he'll appreciate their loss.

== How do i "screencap" a movie? ==
How do i screencap a movie?: [[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 12:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, OK then. We all have our own methods of doing so. Personally, I play my DVDs using VLC Media Player, which has a Snapshot feature which lets you take screenshots when paused, and then it saves them automatically as JPEGs or PNGs to a designated folder of your choosing. However, that's ONLY when I'm screencapping movies I own on DVD. I also rent and download movies using iTunes which I might screencap for IMFDB pages, and I can't play those with VLC. In those cases, I just hit the "Print Screen" key, paste the image into MSPaint, and then crop away the iTunes browser so that only the movie image remains. Then I save them to my HD in a designated folder. Once I've acquired enough screenshots for a movie, I use "Upload file" to put them on IMFDB so that I can use them for pages I edit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::First and most importantly, you need a DVD drive in your computer to watch the movie. I watch mine on Windows WinDVD system, which has a built in "screencap" button by pressing P, which saves them all in WinDVD file. I take those files from the folder, which are all saved under BMPs and re-save them as JPGs using Corel Paintshop. If they are widescreen, I use crop to cut them out. I then upload them to the site and post them. Now that I've read MT2008's method for iTunes, I can screencap [[Shoot 'Em Up]] which wasn't compatable with my WinDVD system, but worked on my other DVD player which had no screencap button. Hooray! -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

And also you can use the program I use which is CyberLink PowerDVD which also has a built in Screenshot button. First the screenshots start out as BMPs, but then I use Irfan View to save them as JPGs to a different folder. And if they are widescreen, I use Windows Photo Gallery to crop off the black bars. You should also check out Gunmaster's and MT2008's methods because they might be better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

What about taking pictures on a digital camera and uploading them to your PC? Does anyone know if it works?[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 21:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

::Thats a very myspace101 question but it's simple there's about 4 ways to do it but I've only done 2. (This demonstration is only done on Windows XP)

:::Option 1: If your camera has a memory slot like a (Compact Flash, Secure Digital, Mini SD, Micro SD, Memory Stick Pro, MultiMediaCard (MMC), SmartMedia, xD-Picture Card (xD), etc.) you could remove the card from the camera. Step 1: Once you removed the card from the camera if you have a compatible USB card reader you can plug the card reader into the computer and plug the card into the card reader. The most common great quality card reader brands are (Sandisk, Memorex, PNY, and Lexar) for approximately $20.00 at Wal-Mart.

:::Option 2: If your camera has a connection for a USB cable. Step 1: You can easily find and plug the USB adaptor into the camera and plug the other end of the plug into you computer.

:::The upload process is easy (tested on Windows XP) your computer bottom right task tray will show a "Found New Hardware" icon and be gone that means your camera is connected. Step 2: A pop up will show on how you want to view your images click on "view with Windows" if this pop up does not pop up you will have to manually follow step 3 if not skip on to step 4. Step 3: You may click "My Computer" or "My Documents" most likely on the desktop or start menu on your computer you will go to "My Computer" and find a folder that says a brand of your memory card or camera. Step: 4 Click on the folder and look through all folders and once you find it you may highlight the folder or the selected images on your computer mouse right click and press copy (or press Ctrl+C on your keyboard) and paste the images where ever you want in your computer.

== How do i screencap from a television? ==
Like if i wanted to screencap some video games? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

:You probably need some high tech gizmo. Usually people who screencap TV use DVR and record TV on DVD, then upload them on the computer. I've never done it but it may work for VGs. -GM45

::Personally, I'd recommend maybe trying an emulator to play said game on your computer (assuming your PC is fast enough to handle the software and game). I've been thinking of redoing the ''[[Goldeneye 007]]'' page for a while using Project64 (which has a screencap feature), because I can play that game at high resolution even on my laptop.
:::I recommend softwares like Fraps (only for PC games). It can take images with a click of a button and you can choose what to save it as in the Pictures section. The disadvantage is that you can't record gameplay in computer games and you must pay about $99 (not sure, but around there and you can also pay little by little per month or week to use) it to do unlimited video capturing. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

==Call of Duty 4 pictures==
I've got good pictures of guns for Call of Duty 4, but i don't know how to upload them, anyone knows how to email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com

:All you have to do is go to "Upload file" under the "Toolbox" section in the left-hand column. -MT2008

==Protection Log?==
Is something wrong with the site. Why are all the pics being fixed with "([edit=sysop:move=sysop])" for a protection log? I know little about that technical stuff, is someone removing the pics or are they just being protected from over-uploading crappy pics over? -GM

:They're being protected. Some asshole came in earlier today and kept trying to replace MoviePropMaster's pics with stock 'Net images, and kept doing it even after he was asked to stop. MPM's pics are our pride 'n joy...Alienqueen and I agreed not to let them get screwed with anymore. -MT2008

Yeah, that's reason why I did it. I just wish I had my ability to block users back, and then I wouldn't have had to set up protections. I told that guy not to upload over MPM2008's images and multiple times and he didn't listen.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==Flannigan==
on the Snatch page- I know it already says that the .50 is a 357, but also another way of finding out is that .50s fire 7 rounds where as in the film Bullet tooth tony fires 8 in every mag. so it must be a 357.

Retrieved from "http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Snatch"

==Deleting old files==
As y'all can probably tell, I have been on a huge deleting spree recently. I've been getting rid of files that weren't being used for whatever reason or another. Some of them were gun images that have since been replaced by MoviePropMaster's images, others were old screencaps that have been replaced by newer ones (like all of my old ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' shots, which have since been replaced by GunMaster's), and some were those images of weird experimental guns uploaded by Cutaway that don't appear in any movie and thus have no purpose on this site.

I realize, of course, that this by itself won't relieve the strain on the servers; it's inevitable as this site grows. But it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. If anyone of the Admins are interested in helping out, please go to "Special Pages" and click on "Unused Files" (at the top). If you see something that might be worth keeping (i.e. Choi's screencaps from ''[[The Killer]]'' which haven't been put on the page yet), leave it alone, but if you see gun images that obviously have no use or screencaps that you know have been replaced...ditch 'em.

Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Good Work, MT2008. I'm sure it'll give us more server space, I'll be sure to delete some myself. One question, if we get rid of the old files, will this site load faster?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

:Beats me, but I'd have to guess...not ''noticeably'' faster. It will at least give us more space for uploading newer files. However, IMFDB is constantly growing, so it's inevitable we'll reach our limits eventually. You'd have to ask Bunni when that will be. Anyway, I'm off to the pub now. I will be back later to continue. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:20, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Go right ahead, you deserve a break. I'll get rid of as many as I can, I'm also seeing alot of screenshots nobody bothered to use, it makes me wonder why people upload them if they're just going to sit there for a year and gather dust. And, I'm also going to screencap [[Four Brothers]] and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]] soon, so you can look forward to seeing them completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Fictional Firearms==
I propose that we denote pages for 'fictional' firearms with parentheses "like Non Guns" so that they are in a different grouping than real guns. GM has made pages for the fantasy weapons of Hellboy II and that made me think about custom pages for the Morita Rifle (Starship troopers) or the M590 (Space:Above and Beyond) or the Blade Runner Pistol or any of the Star Wars guns (versus other types of Sci fi weapons, these should be guns). Even though THESE fictional guns are based on real guns, they can have their own pages with links to the original weapons page. Regardless, I think that guns that aren't real should be separated, lest they confuse users. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:I agree. I was kinda turned off when I saw the Aliens Resurrection page. None of those guns were based off of real firearms or even guns dressed up to look like futuristic guns.

::Well I get the point of making a post about fictional guns that were built around real guns like the Morita rifle and the Pulse Rifle of Aliens, but guns that were built from scratch like the Samaritian. Would it really need a page here or is that just for the fanboys who like the gun? It's like a page for the cars used in the Punisher movie or people who like to include knives, swords, and even bows & arrow in pages, including me. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

:::The advantage is that the page can inform an interested user that the prop was NOT based on any real firearm, information that is just as important as informing 'what real firearm' was used in a prop weapon. What I don't like are obvious NON crafted weapons .... like [[Molotov cocktails]] ... wtf? That's an improvised weapon, like a sharp stick or a brick.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

::What about bows & arrows, or crossbows? I put them in my pages cause when they are used, they an impression and deserve a mention evne though they aren't firearms. Also what about knives and swords? I've seen some of those as well, but I think the knife of Rambo should stay because...well, it's the knife of Rambo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== My gripe on Empty pages ==

I've been seeing a lot of new pages lately. The problem is that they are a blank! Nothing, not even a list of guns. What the fuck? I mean, a list of guns with no photos is ok, but just a fucking blank page? Do the people that do that expect someone else to do the work for them? They mind as well type down, "someone list the guns and put up pics for me cause I am lazy as fuck to even give a list." At least writing that down says something. Not just a blank.
:We all understand your pain Exy, we need a more efficient way to let the anonymous users know that if you make a page, you got to do the work. You gotta watch the language though, people will see it and think it is okay to do often. We all do it, but we don't want it done for no reason. Just ignore the empty pages, let them do the work eventually. If they don't, delete the pages. Half of them are movies I've never heard of anyway. Keep an eye out for [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]], I'll have them done this week. -GM
::What about that new member who create thirty or so new movie pages (some of which barely had one gun in them) and then never filled out any of those pages? I'm tempted to give people a little time, but for movies in which I question their relevance to this site, I'm also tempted to get rid of blank pages and let people create them when they're ready to populate them with information. MPM
:::Sorry for the foul launguage. I'm used to talking on forums where the F word is acceptable when you are pissed. Swears is culturally part of any language and sometimes it slips and I like to think we're all adults here that do use swears in real life when it is required. Anyway. Nice job on the [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]] pages. I've only done one movie that had ONE gun in it and it was [[The Forbidden Kingdom]] and even I did the work for it. I guess the anonymous users might also just be curious guys online and just hope we know what movie they are talking about, have it, and would take the time to tell them what guns are in it by doing the pages, but maybe on the main page, someone should put down rules of how to operate this site. I mean, I wanted to put a new qoute into the qoute section, but can't cause I don't know how to do it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

=="jacked" summaries"==
One thing that irks me is people 'cut and pasting' a plot summary completely from IMDB. This is not only against IMFDB rules, but if any mods from IMDB sees them, they can make an stink about it. I'm tempted to 'erase' any pirated summaries and put a note to the original writer ''"'''Write your own summary in your own words'''. It isn't too hard, even to re-arrange the sentences and replace some words to make it LOOK like you wrote it yourself. Just don't lift them word for word from another well known source. IMDB itself has a rule that you must write your own summaries and not lift them from other 3rd party sources. So does IMFDB.org. "'' Of course there are so many jacked firearm images here, this may be hypocritical. Which is why I'm working so hard to get IMFDB their own exclusive gun images. But it's one thing to upload an image of an impossible to get gun which no one has, versus taking the time to type a few sentences...
:I agree. I did the same thing with my [[Black Lagoon]] page when I got here, but I took it off mainly because I didn't see the need for a summary at the beginning of the page that is THAT long winded. People are here for the guns and if they want to know what the movie or show is about, they just look it up. I don't know, I stopped writing summaries for movies and shows long ago. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I think we don´t need summaries.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I disagree with those who think "we don't need no stinkin' summaries..." For those people who have NOT seen the movie a SHORT summaries are okay. I've put them on some of my pages, usually when I have something interesting to add. I do like them when someone puts a page for a movie so obscure that I have no idea what it's about (and I don't want to have to go hunting around the web to find out, capice?) I added summaries (and others did) for those REALLY OBSCURE East german B&W movies that are on the site. Who created those pages anyway? Like anyone's going to see Black and white German language communist era DDR movies .... oh well. I can always start creating pages for the cinema of 1930s Lithuania! hahahaha. But having no summary for SOME of the pages sucks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I found some summaries to stick out too much. Maybe a sentence or two to just give the jist, or a catch phrase like, but really I don't do summaries anymore. But I'll think about it for the anime ones simply cause some of them are harder to find or most people wouldn't have interests in them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

==Leaving your sign==
If you want people to know who you are when you write things on pages and discussion boards, put four ~ symbols after your message. Your user name and time/date are automatically shown. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 20:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

:See?

:: What he said. ;)
::: I agree wholeheartedly ...
::::Yes. Just yes. --Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

==Problems with formatting==
Anyone notice that some of the wikipages don't show the spaces that we put between sections (so that the formats don't get all jacked up when we have photos on the right).

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Benelli_M_Series_Super_90_Shotguns

I've been trying to fix the benelli shotgun page for a bit now, and every time I add spaces, it doesn't show up in the page. Is this a glitch?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Should we have templates? ==

Like in Wikipedia?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

It WOULD make this site a bit more...colorful than the standard white background, but if it's too much work, then it's up to whoever really runs this place.

:In all honesty, what this site needs most of all is cross-referencing of some kind, so that if somebody enters the name of a gun in one page, it shows up on another. It's a downfall of Wikis in general, and this one in particular. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

==Views==

Is there a way how I could check how many people viewed may page like on the home page the top 5 articles says how many people have viewed are page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 01:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== How do i replace a image? ==

How do i replace a image?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Updating ==

Can someone please update or add pictures to these listed pages:

*3000 miles to Graceland

*Blue streak

*The Mask

*Snatch

:The Mask and Snatch are on my to-do list. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== music videos ==

should be included on the site...i want to know the guns used in protest the hero's video for blindfolds aside...if anyone knows, please share, or at least where i can find out

== main page movies ==

What exactly is the criteria for a film to be featured on the main page? I was thinking of submitting some (unless there are already enough as it is). - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Popular, critically aclaimed (but gun heavy I guess, something that wins 9 oscars but has three guns isn't a good idea), and it should have a decent amount of guns on it (like 15-20 seems about right).

== Too many screencaps!!! ==

I'm getting a bit frustrated w/the amount of screencaps we're loading up. Is there any way we can limit the number? The pages are becoming much too long & scrolling takes forever. I know Wikis are not democracies so a vote would be out of the question but can we all please stop indulging our screecap skills by putting ALL our favorite stills from these films up & just have about 2-3 images per firearm? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 20:14, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:At least for the front page I have to agree - the loading is taking way too long. I'm going to disable the featured page for a while and see how it goes. I can't afford to upgrade the server at the moment to handle the huge load. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

::Can this be done on individual pages too? Take a look at the page for Shoot 'em Up for instance, seems like everyone just had to throw their favorite frame in there. Also, the Quick & the Dead is pretty bad too... Also, would it be bad in etiquette to go into pages & start cutting out images that are repetitive or unnecessary? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 18:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse the language but FUCK YOU. And if you start removing my screencaps I'll be sure to remove ''you'' from the site. (sorry about the outburst but it is very rude to blatantly bash my hard work and contributions to this site, and it pisses me off gravely) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::No one was bashing the hard work or contributions. Don't confuse legitimate criticism with a personal attack, and your response back was a personal attack and beneath you, especially the fine responses you usually write (and the fact that you're a MOD now). I hope you eventually understand that I also mean no disrespect as well. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

GM's comment aside I'm all for detailed screencaps. Heck I'm going to be trying to collect a bunch for myself. Unfortunantly the interesting films I have are VHS. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

:He's got a point though. I dont want to be rude, but when every single time the certain gun is shown, it doesnt really need a picture. 5 tops is ok. GM, you are very nortorious for 13-14 pictures of the same gun. i can understand showing cycling misfeeds/changes in guns, but on the Punisher page, you dont really need that many pictures of Castle shooting Spoon and Dante. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
::You shouldn't have to apologize. The members who seem to LOVE tons of screencaps take it personally, like you're attacking THEM, not the decision to display endless screenshots of guns. I think when they think about it, they may realize that no one is trying to be insulting. When I screencap, I edit the pictures. Sure I might have 14 shots, but I choose the best couple and cull the rest. I don't feel compelled to force everyone to look at every since solitary screenshot, just because I took the time to do them. Just like a writer or artist, you must have the maturity to cut out what is excess, even though at the time it sucks to cut out stuff you like. Looks like some of the new (i.e. young also) members are trying to outdo the record for ridiculous screencaps. [[We Were Soldiers]] is now a page that I no longer like to look at, now that I have to scroll down for ten minutes to see the next section. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== how do i screencap ==

i have many films, games exc that i want to screencap. please can someone tell me how to?
:You need a DVD-rom drive on your computer. Play the movie on a DVD player with a screencapture function. The images will be saved to a folder. Cut off any widescreen or full screen bars and convert the image to a JPG so it can be placed here. You'll need a photo editor such as Corel Photoshop or even Paintshop. Then go to the Upload file section and upload them on the site. Copy the picture's linkage (will say something like "Image:name.jpg") then put the image in double brackets [[]] and paste the linkage. now you'd take this image and write it like this:

(double bracket)Image:name.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Comment.(double bracket)

Look at some other pages to see this in use. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

You can actually screencap with any Windows computer, very easily. Just use the Print Screen button and paste it into whatever program you want; you can then crop out the interface and whatnot. You can also use Print Screen + Alt so that you only get what's inside the window instead of everything (I think PrtScn + Alt is what you want.

[[Special:Contributions/72.189.150.170|72.189.150.170]]

==Should this picture be on the M16 Page?==
hahahaha. The CHAMPION of customization in the history of firearms! .....
[[Image:74ea0f45a31c.gif]]

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
:Oh hell yea! that looks awesome! [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
::Looks like that GIF took a lot of work to make... Awesome though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::That would be perfect for the M16 page, so definitely yes!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Well where on the page should this be on? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

:Interesting enough I don't see this thing transform into an M16A1 or A2
::M16A1 is dead and gone. the a2 series is the new and improved. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

Slow it down a touch and it's perfect! And to satisfy those who are sticklers about accuracy: split the animation into "A1" and "A2" animations (one for each M16 variant).
EDIT: Isn't there a silencer for it? Counter-Strike says so...
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

How awesome is that AR-15 builder, just love doing it for the hell of it.

== Grammar/Spelling ==
-
- Hello gentlemen. First off I just want to start of by telling you guys how much I enjoy this site. Anyhow, I come visiting from IMCDb (Internet Movie Car Database). I'm an administrator over there and given my interest in weapons and the similarity between the two sites, I've taken an interest in visiting your site. However, I've noticed a problem that I wanted to bring up to your guys' attention. Often times there are grammar and spelling mistakes and I think that it is something that you guys can improve upon a bit more. I don't mean to sound like I'm criticizing or I'm calling anybody stupid or anything, but it's things like that that could make the site look cleaner and more appealing. And yes, I do understand that english may not be the first language for some of the posters here. My point is that I'm just giving some friendly advice from who I'd like to think of as someone from a "sister" site. Thanks gents...keep up the great work.

:: We have tons of contributors who aren't even old enough to shave yet. Does that tell you anything? GM45 once described it as a small group of Mods/ Super users fighting against the cresting tide of the ocean, or something to that effect. :) An apt metaphor. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

:::Hi, I am a fan of IMCDB myself (it was where I learned all about how M1 Abrams tanks in Hollywood are mocked-up Centurions). I do appreciate your concerns about grammar/spelling and agree with you that it needs to be addressed. However, being that (unlike IMCDB) we are a Wiki open for all to edit, it's somewhat inevitable that this will be an issue. I appreciate the fact that this is less of an issue with IMCDB due to the format of the site, and at times, I wish we could integrate elements of IMCDB into this site to standardize things a bit (I still get annoyed when I see people who call a Beretta 92F a "Berretta M92F" even though it says at the top of the page that this is not the correct spelling). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Fellas, I greatly appreciate the response. I understand the situation with your site and we ourselves deal with some of the same issues, as far as having younger members whose grammar and knowledge isn't exactly ideal. But thanks a lot for the response. And as I said earlier, keep up the good work.

:::::Thanks. We also have foreign contributors who don't have that great of a grasp of English. We also have guys who just don't know how to spell. One of my buddies who is a combat vet, former 82nd Airborne, types like a two year old on his computer. I jokingly say that I have to create a special filter for Babelfish to decypher what he is typing! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

===Our own movie===
I was thinkin'. We've got a lot of people on this site, a lot of them are very talented, we could probably make our own movie someday. I know a good script writer with an idea already mostly-formed, maybe imfdb should have a meet up and make a movie. We could probably all pool our resources and make an awesome one. Just a whimsical fantasy...-protoAuthor
:A movie based on a website? What the fuck? That won't work. I am sorry but, that just won't work.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, I mean we all pitch together and make an action movie. Not based on the website, but the website has the people and resources. As in, a community effort. -protoAuthor
:::That would be cool if only the movie we make is a cheesy action movie in the same vein as Commando, then we can do it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::::hahahahaha, uh no. :) Some of us actually work in the movie industry and it's not easy to make a movie, even a crappy backyard effort one with a video camera bought from Walmart. You're right, it's a whimsical fantasy, but you need a TON of talented people who know what they are doing in ALL of the positions of a film production. Not just armorers but you need everyone, a good script, good actors, a good director, a good producer (which amazingly is really hard since the producer is supposed to be a manager, NOT someone who micro manages the work by everyone else), a good crew, skilled camera operators, good cameras, pro lighting gear and a good DP or cinematographer. Oh did I mention TONS of $$ (you could spend a fortune just feeding the crew and paying for insurance and permits - salaries not withstanding). Wait, you also need office staff, pre production staff and post production staff and facilities (digital capture, color correcting, editing, sound engineering and editing) and then where are you going to sell it? You need marketing, posters, ads, trailers, a website, the list goes on and on. No I'm not making fun of your comment. It was funny and just that, fantasizing, but I know you are just throwing this bit out there and are not serious. Because it's akin to someone saying "hey let's stage our own high orbit launch of a satellite, all we need is ....." :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm currently working on an amatuer backyard crap job now, and it is actually turning out quite well. We don't have tons of money but we can fund things like fake blood, spare t-shirts (to cover in fake blood), and blanks. As for lighting, so far everything has been working well for us. We actually have enough filmed now that I'm confident this will be a good movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Help with VLC ==
I need help with my VLC Media Program. When i screencap movies the program screencaps like normal, but when i upload my images to IMFDB the images stay like this:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-252103Mk2.jpg|thumb|none|512px|Charlie Sheen in [[Platoon]]. <s>The Problem here is that even when the screencap is in 1200x configuration, the screencap is still away too small.</s> Fixed!]]
:Can Anyone help me with this?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:I don't have that problem, but I'm checking out the settings to see what might cause it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

::I imagine you've got this sorted by now, but it's because you missed the letter "p." It's "px" as in "pixel," not "x" as in "times." And that still won't make it larger than the image itself is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Discussions on Articles==

I love this site, I have wasted many hours just browsing the wonderful collection of articles. My only qualm is some users feel that the article pages are also discussion pages to argue the validity of someone's addition. There is nothing that irks me more that when i am reading about a movie and then it becomes some kind of forum. I think this should be regulated to make the site more professional.

:We try to regulate it and throw those discussions on the discussion pages of articles but there are still some users that discuss on the articles.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

::I agree, that has been a thorn in my side too. Nothing worse than to go to the trouble of creating a thorough, tidy-looking article only for people to clutter it up with chatter and arguements that should be saved for the article's talk page. that 'discussion' tab is up there for a reason, people! [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

:::I couldn't agree more, it turns me off when I'm going through a neat looking page, and then come across a bunch of comments and arguments. If we could just get into the habit of using the talk page for these arguments, then we'll be more obligated to use them more often.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== This video ==

Have any of you lazy sons-of-bitches seen this video:
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3FFThpkyg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3FFThpkyg]

It's fucking awesome let me tell you. And no, i'm not spamming links just watch the video. It's about us!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:That's been out for a while now; take a look at some of those old gun pics on there, like the long since replaced M16A1/M203 with the 20-round mag. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::I know but i never seen it. It's really funny.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately some our members are a bit too thin skinned. This guy wasn't being insulting. He was intentionally obnoxious trying to be a 'showman'. Some guys "telling him to fuck off" in the comments makes us look a bit immature. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== How? ==
how do i create my own page to say what my favourite weapons and movies are and what contributions i have made? please can someone tell me.
:You have to register first and, contribute to this site. Bye!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
i'd hate to sound like an idiot but i've just done that (register and contribute) now what do i do?
:On the upper right corner of your screen there is an panel with thing about your username. Press the one with your name on it and write on it. Also, when editing, there will be an link with "Editing Help". Click it and read it. Now you know how to edit. Yay! Also, put four ~ after any of your messages. That way, you will sign you messages and people will know who you are.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Movie Article Request "Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow" ==

There are many guns, but I request this mostly for a big mistake in it. When Sky Captain is running on a log with a Colt 1911 (silver) in hand and drops it, the computer rendering shows a revolver of some sort. It is probably the same as the one in the scene where Sky Captain is at his desk and the reporter comes in, and he stops her at gunpoint.

Sorry if I was vague, but my memory's a little fuzzy.
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:I actually own that film and I ''could'' screencap it ,but I effing hate that movie. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:34, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

:Is it really that bad? It looked like it sucked, but I wasn't sure-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

::It's just really corny. It tries to capture the feel of movies made in the 20's or whenever the hell the movie's suppose to take place, but it is just super, super, super, corny. If it was intentionally corny, it would be funny. But it's not and that's what makes it bad. The only redeeming part is that Angelina Jolie is in it. Unfortunately, she's always in a uniform and has a patch over one eye, so it's not really worth it in the end. The dues ex Machina near the end doesn't help, or the fact that the female lead is the type of person that would push a button for no other reason then it says "DO NOT PUSH". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 21:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== How do I ==

get pictures on a page? not screencaps but an actor holding a gun in a movie?

== Fixed Width 1000px ==

I'm working on making the front page a fixed width design... let me play with the ads and featured articles for a couple days. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

:Created a new template for featured articles, you can play with it at [[Template:FeaturedArticle]]. I've currently only added 3:10 to Yuma and Live Free or Die Hard - feel free to add more. [[User:Bunni|bunni]]

==Random screencap==
Is there any chance of bringing this feature back? I liked looking at the different screenshots. [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 11 Oct 2009
::Do you prefer having the site crash more often than not, for this little inconvenience?

==Still having problems with the SITE==
I am getting 503 error messages all the time. 80% of the time I can't get it. Until this is fixed, I am taking a break because I waste HOURS trying to rewrite edits and multiple attempts to upload images. Don't know what we can do about it. Is there something we can do, like have a one week moratorium on any members uploading anything to see if all the hits from views is what is causing it? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I emailed Bunni about this a few days ago, so I hope he'll get it fixed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

==Forum problems - can't log in==
Which is why I am posting this here. I can't get into the Forum. When I type in (CORRECTLY) my user name and password, I get this error message that I have ''used up ALL Of my five (5!) login attempts'' (WTF?). Just '''today''' when I tried to login in, the error message said '''''"You've used up six (6!) of your five (5) login attempts.''''' You cannot try again for another fifteen minutes. Again WTF? I tried ONCE and it didn't take and the system thought I had tried many times. Again, something is wrong with the servers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'm getting that error also. My guess is that it is because someone is trying to hack our forum accounts; so that is probably why it says we have used up our login attempts. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== I need help with a Link problem ==

I started a State of Grace page, which shows up when entered in the search box, but when I went to add the info from the movie to the actors pages the link back to State of Grace is said to be deleted. Like when I went to the Sean Penn page and entered what pistol he used and entered State of Grace, when I click on State of Grace it brings to a page that says:

'''Warning: You are recreating a page that was previously deleted.'''

You should consider whether it is appropriate to continue editing this page. The deletion log for this page is provided here for convenience:
• 18:32, 15 April 2009 Gunmaster45 (Talk | contribs) deleted ''"State of Grace" ‎ (content before blanking was: 'This excellent movie starred Sean Penn, Ed Harris, and Gary Oldman. Penn, an undercover cop infiltrating the Irish mob in NYC carried a Smith 6906 in .9mm with a Ruger SP101 backup gun. Gary Oldman, a thug, carried ...')''

Does this mean I need to copy and paste all the work I did into that deleted page? Searching for the movie from the search box will bring you to the page I created from scratch, but the link from the actors pages brings you to that notice of an old deleted page. Can anyone help? --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 03:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

There was a small difference in titles between the link and the page you created. The link was State of Grace and the title of your page was State Of Grace, so that's why it didn't link. I made a redirect on the previously deleted page so it should work now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Movies Page ==

I don't know if anyone has noticed but in the movies page King Kong (1933) is listed under B and there's no entry for it under K. Reason I'm saying this is because I guess only admins can edit category pages? because nothing pops up when I click edit.-[[User:Shooter2|Shooter2]]

::I fixed it. Someone put B&W in the same Category line as "movie". YOu put the categories in separate lines. WHen you put B&W in the same line, it thinks that you want the movie categorized in the "B" category [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

== Movies deletion ==

Could you please delete [[The Alamo (2004)]] since there is already is the title under ''[[Alamo (2004), The]]''? Thanks--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:48, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
== Redirects ==
Can someone please teach me how to create redirects?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

==Non Related Quotes==
How does the quote "Come quietly or there will be...trouble. --[[RoboCop]]" relate to firearms? Should this quote be removed from the featured quote list or not?
:I thought that as well, so I deleted it --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

==Can't get into the FORUM .... AGAIN!!!!!!!==
If anyone is interested as to why I have NOT deleted spammers, I CAN"T GET INTO THE FORUM!!!!! every time I try to log in, it boots me out! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
:Sucks for you, dude. Lets just hope that whatever is causing the problem is fixed

== Do a page on Pavement ==

Can someone please do a page on a movie called Pavement that stars Robert Patrick and Lauren Holly filmed in 2002. I was interested the weapons SWAT used and was pretty sure at one point even though she hadn't fired her weapon while clearing a house the top slide of her sidearm was locked back. I'd do it myself but I don't know where to find this movie as I saw it on TV one night and haven't done it before so wouldn't know how to make a page. Cheers
:Pavement was filmed in South Africa, even though the story is set in San Francisco. Funny how San Francisco, suddenly looks like the scenes from District 9? Lauren Holly used a Vektor CP1 pistol, and yes, she pops out and her slide is open, but it looks like she fired and the editor removed the sequence of her firing, wanting instead for the crazy dude to force her to withdraw by firing his shotgun first. It was an editorial decision that screwed up what was already filmed. The SWAT team used South African R4s, Vektor CR21s, some dummy SIG 550s and one M16A1(probably a replica). The weapons are what one expects from a South African production. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

== Actor's Pages ==

I see that a lot of the actor pages are being converted to the "table" format, but I don't know if it's clear what should be in the first category. Should the guns be placed first before what movie the actor used them in? I would prefer it this way, because it's easier to read that way. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
::You're right in pointing this out. I see NEW MEMBERS are changing the order in the tables on the ACTOR pages. Traditionally it's been WEAPON, then CHARACTER, then MOVIE TITLE, then notes. That format was chosen because it flows like a 'sentence'. I.e. John Doe has used the following ...... a [[Beretta 92FS]] as Krusty A. Clown in ''Attack of the Killer Cartoons'' (note), (year). WE should formalize a format and then institute it in the rules. Thanks for pointing this out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Request ==

can someone do Wrongfully Accused with Leslie Nielsen. the reason I ask is because there is a strange LMG version of an M134 in it, and i would like to know what the hell it is, and if it is real.

== A question ==

So, this wiki has articles about video games, anime and animated films which are either 3d representations or drawings of guns. So why are stop-motion films, and other animation of this kind not allowed here? Why are they an exception?
::That answer is in the rules. The representations of guns are crude and not appropriate to waste IMFDB resources on. We haven't even covered the majority of our CORE genres (Films, Television shows, Anime & VG). And many of our pages are very incomplete or lame. So we tend to discourage new members from trying to introduce even MORE genres for us to cover. That and in those genres the guns are too crude to be listed as anything in particular. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Site working much better! ==

The Site seems to be working again! Thanks so much to all those who worked on it! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

== Hello! Meet the new user msMaryStrikens. ==

Hello! I really liked your forum, especially this section. I just signed up and immediately decided to introduce myself, if I'm wrong section, ask the moderators to move the topic to the right place, hopefully it will take me well... My name is Mary, me 29 years, humourist and serious woman in one person. I apologize for my English [[Special:Contributions/89.107.104.99|User: 89.107.104.99]]

:''(Note: this message was moved by the MODs from an incorrect page to the main discussion page)'' [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== Question: Live fire in movies ==

Hi, first of all, please excuse my English, I am not a native speaker. Secondly, please excuse I aks my question here although I know it is not the proper place for this, but I found no forum in this wiki. So here is my question:

When filming the German movie ''Spione'' (''Spys'', but there never was an English version) in 1928, there was live gun firing because they could not simulate it with special effects (1928), and the gun in the scene in question was fired in the direction of one of the actors. Strangely enough this caused a furor only because filming the scene was repeated several times by the director, who was was the lover of the actress in the scene, but it seems there was no talking about the live firing of a gun in a movie ''per se'' at all. So was using live fire in movies normal in a time they could not use special effects? Are there more films in which they used live fire instead of special effects? Thanks, Gustav

==[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imfdb IMFBD Wikipeda Page]==
It's been put up for speedy deletion. Could better writers than me go explain why it shouldn't? -[[User:JonathanDP|JonathanDP]] 18:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:I'm not sure I could myself. I mean, a Wikipedia article about another Wiki? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Too late, it's already gone. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Dude, there're many wikipedia articles on other wikis. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wikis Don't believe me?]--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 23:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I was actually the one who wrote that article (Rockmandrum on Wikipedia). I wrote that article because there are also different databases such as the IMCFD (Internet Adult Film Database) and I thought IMFDB should go there as it's a database, but my article got tagged for the lack of sources though there are some sources out there. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

==Featured Quotes question...==

I dunno who is in charge of the featured quotes section, but I'd like to know. Can we, the registered users, propose new ideas of featured quotes? 'Cause I got a few, and I'm sure other guys have 'em too. [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:45 March 7, 2010 (UTC)

== Quote suggestions ==

You might want to make your suggestions in the discussion section of the [[Template:Quote]] page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

==Page that can't be edited==

Seems that the [[Ga-rei: Zero]] page can't be edited. There a problem with this or should it be just deleted instead to start all over? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 20:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Just Cause 2==
Hey guys. I know the first Just Cause had no realistic weapons, but that changes with JC2. So far even from the demo I've made out a Desert Eagle, M4-type rifle, MP5/UMP cross, and an M136 AT4. If anyone could screencap the game, I'd gladly do descriptions and the rest. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

==Hi there==
New member here. Just wanted to drop a line. awesome site! Some pics I recognize off the net. Just a question. where do you get the great gun pictures from? I used to use Security arms and Guns of the world for reference but you guys have some of the best pics I've seen, including some that I have never seen anywhere else. If you license from some stock photo site, please let me know. I would be interested in getting access to their image library! :) Kyle

-For the most part pictures that are used are from MoviePropMaster2008, he is IMFDB's armorer, he has a lot of the pics of weapons on white backgrounds that you see. Many from movies they helped with. However, he doesn't have all of them. Just check for the picture you are looking before uploading any of your own. --[[User:Camden Hennis|Camden Hennis]] 16:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Director's Pages ==

If I've seen a page on the site like Hurt Locker or Face/Off or even Heat, I might like to know what other films the director has done, so I think the pages are helpful in that respect. Judging by the amount of pages we have for actors who have maybe used or carried a gun once, compared to how many directors pages we have, I don't think you're saving that much on space. Also, if you're looking to make this site a really good reference site, omitting these pages just doesn't make sense. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

- Well, next thing you know, we'll include pages/categories for Producers, Production designers, etc. There's only so much this place needs to put on here. There's already an 'Internet Movie DataBase' that has all that other stuff. Like MPM said on another page - Putting a bunch of emphasis on what directors/actors/etc did what takes away from the primary focus of the site, which is to display and discuss the firearms and info directly relating to them. The actors are only here because they're the ones actually seen in movies handling the firearms, but anything other than that I feel would just be too much. If you want to find out about Directors and the like, again, there's IMDB as well as other sites on the internet for that. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Franchise pages ==

Like director pages, can we make pages for particular game franchises, like all of the Call of Duty games or all the Medal of Honor games? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:21, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

- You mean like list pages, like we have for movie franchises, film genres and such? If so, that would be fine, would make reference/look-up of a particular title in a series easier. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

:No, unless the franchises have tons of titles that are completely different. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out all of the games titled "Call of Duty" or Medal of Honor" belong to a certain series of games. And I have not seen a surge of titles that OMIT the franchise identifiers like a new title that is officially a part of the Call of Duty series that doesn't have 'Call of Duty' in the title. Unless that happens, the franchise identifiers are NOT NECESSARY and add to the overall clutter that IMFDB is trying to avoid. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::I was just talking about the really big franchises, and I guess it'd only apply to the CoD and MoH series. There are a DOZEN games in each series, several of which I've never even heard of. Users here are obviously fans, given how detailed the pages are and the length of the discussion pages. Maybe a chronological listing? Or a glorified disambiguation page? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::There should be a ''see also'' addition to the pages, however, a glorified disambiguation page is not a bad idea. But the pages STILL need a 'see also' section at the bottom of the page that is complete. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Organizing firearms by type ==

I'm just organizing some pages. [[Heat]] , [[Ronin]] , [[McQ]], [[Public Enemies]] , [[Reign of Fire]] and so forth. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. Just wanted to get that out there so nobody sends me hate mail. I'm not messing with anybody's hard work. Just helping to organize. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

- I took a gander at those pages, I actually like the grouped-together firearms, again, makes reference on the contents of a page easier. Especially if a page has a lot of guns that can be grouped under said categories like those pages.

Although some people like doing the pages by chronological appearance of the firearms (T2, as well as my own page, [[Nothing But Trouble]], for instance) but those pages either don't have a lot of guns or are very diverse.

But in pages where there are a lot of guns that can be grouped under some general types (Pistols, SMGs, Shotguns, Assault Rifles, etc) I think it helps. I've certainly seen some pages re-organized as such and it helped. I won't say it's the thing to do for ALL pages, but many would benefit from it. Just my thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm doing it to the pages that I created and a few pages with many many firearms like [[Heat]]. But I want to do it slowly. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Made for TV movies ==

What's the ruling on made for TV movies? I've seen them go either ways on this site. Dirty Dozen: the Next Mission is listed as a movie, while Lost Battalion is listed as TV, despite both being made for TV movies. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::'''What are you talking about? The Lost Battalion is not listed that way'''. For the record, made for TV Movies (or as called in Hollywood MOW for "Movie of the Week" as the major networks used to do, are listed as movies. They are not episodic series or Mini-series. If the entire thing is shown in a single showing then it's a movie. These made for TV movies are sometimes theatrically released overseas, and many of them are released on video/DVD as movies. Anyway that's the rule and I still don't see any violation of that rule. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I was referring to the weapons pages that link to it. For example, the M1917 pistol and rifle pages both have Lost Battalion under Television, while the M1911 and Chauchat entries have it under Film. And others not at all. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Well that's an error on those gun pages. If you see errors like that, which I am sure there are plenty of on IMFDB, please fix them when you see them. There is a LOT of breaks in cross indexing. I've long berated members for creating pages and NOT cross indexing them to actors and gun pages. And with new members creating new pages every other hour or so, the problem is just going to get bigger. All IMFDB members should try to fix cross indexing errors when they see them. Heck, there are pages I've made that I forgot to cross index some of the weapons entries on. But we must be vigilant and try to keep IMFDB accurate and up to date as possible. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

== The Last Hunt ==

Hi it's been a while since I've seen this but I remember Robert Taylor using a massive Winchester rifle. I was wondering if this was a Model 1886 since he was hunting buffalo with it and it used a .45-90 bullet.

I've seen a Model '86 Winchester rifle in the Monte Walsh remake and in a recent episode of Pawn Stars and they didn't really look as big as Robert Taylor's. I was just wondering if anyone knew if it was an '86 or maybe something else.

==Gun-releated quotes on actor/actress page==
I thought of an idea while looking at the quotes section: how about some quotes said by an actor/actress can go on their page? For example, Al Pacino's quote, "Say hello to my little friend," from [[Scarface]] can also go on his page, too. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

== Screen Used movie firearms ==

I have recently been searching the website for weapons which were pictures of actual movie firearms, example being weapons in Quentin Tarantino films.
if anyone could list some films for me that would be great. These are some of the ones i have already found:

*[[Scarface]]
*[[Pulp Fiction]]
*[[Reservoir Dogs]]
*[[True Romance]]
*[[Jackie Brown]]
*[[Lethal Weapon]] series
*[[Die Hard]] series
*[[Predator]]
*[[The Untouchables]]
*[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]
*[[The Spirit]]
*[[Lord of War]]
*[[Beverly Hills Cop]]
*[[We Were Soldiers]]
*[[Tightrope]]
*[[The Enforcer]]
*[[The Dead Pool]]
*[[Dirty Harry]] - no S&W 29 unfortunately
*[[The Quick and the Dead]]
*[[Man on Fire]]
*[[Miami Vice - Season 3]]
*[[The Getaway (1972)]]
*[[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]]
*[[The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean]]
*[[Machete]]
*[[Fair Game]]
*[[Ghosts of Mars]]
*[[Wild Wild West]]
*[[S.W.A.T. (2003)]]
*[[Collateral]]
*[[Hidalgo]]
*[[Appaloosa]]
That's all I could think of, for now, also many have the pics on the site may not say they were used in a certain film, but a lot of them are movie guns.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

:::(a) Thank you. :) You're actually just chronicling my work for the site. 90% of the screen used photos I shot exclusively for IMFDB and I kinda wondered myself just how many titles I've covered. (b) it's sad but true that many OTHER gun pics are of guns that I'm certain have appeared in stuff, but unless record have been checked and verified, it can't be said with any sort of certainty. So we have TONS more movie used weapons than not in photographs. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:We also have several guns from ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. At some point, I think we need to make a page with all of the screen-used movie guns that MoviePropmaster has photographed for us. And then I also need to make a page with the gun pictures that my contact at ISS sent me. There are a lot of them on this site. Of course, there are also some that we've taken from other sites (like YourProps and PropStore), but I'd probably just put the gun pictures that are IMFDB exclusives. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::That seems like a good idea MT.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

[[Book of Eli, The]] has that kind of stuff on its page and [[The Unit]] as well, if you want to be hardcore about it. [[Spades of Columbia]]

== Missing firearm (The Peacemaker) ==
Just got done watching this movie & there is a scene between the Russian General & one of the bad guys in the back of the truck (about 1 hour 15 minutes in) & I'm sure the gun that the General threatens him with is a Steyr GB pistol, he also uses it to shoot at the approaching helicopters, could someone else confirm this & update the page?

== Empty firearm ==
In some films you see that when a gun is fired, the chamber clicks empty but the slide doesn't lock back and I was just curious as to how they manage to do that?
:If it's showcased in a film, then it was intentional. Many directors who are unfamiliar with guns will use that action to indicate that a gun is empty.
:'''''Scene:''' Bad guy points pistol at face of good guy. It is a Beretta 92FS. He pulls the trigger dramatically. "click" nothing happens. Bad guy has panicked look on his face. "Click" "Click"! as he continues to pull the trigger. "Aha!" yells the hero as he swats away the empty gun and punches the bad guy in the face.'' DOH!
:It's done via editing. I seriously doubt most directors would end a gunfight with the phenomenon of a dud round (though dud rounds have appeared in the storylines of some shows). Or a bad primer. Or a worn or damaged magazine which does not engaged the slide lock. Or a worn or damaged slide. But seriously, anyone who fires a gun can pretty much tell when it's empty and devoid of rounds, unless it's not their gun and they're completely unfamiliar with it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Bad magazines...its not the desired option on semi-autos.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== glock variants ==
i just wondered, is a Glock 19 the same as a Glock 23 with the exeption of the caliber?

Yes

==Main Page error==
Has anyone ever gotten this error before? This happened to me many times. During this error, I cannot go to any pages unless there are links on a page and I'm logged out and I can't log in. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Mainpageerror.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

: I have had this happen to me, too. I am running up to date Firefox. It´s a rather odd error, really. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:I've encountered it as well. I usually run IE as my browser, and it sometimes carries on when I go through Google Chrome too. Tends to be accompanied with a fair amount of lag as well when it occurs. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:26, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

:I've never had this error before, but I only update or run programs if I have to. It's running on bare bones only. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 20:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

- I had this error as well Friday evening (running FireFox), but as we had a badass lightning storm that probably played havoc with the signal, that ain't too surprising (Lag/connection issue, like Orca alluded to). But I can't speak for you other guys, though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Page Format Change? ==

I recently noticed that the page justification seems to be locked down, making actor pages with the table format seem particularly squashed if there's a lot of information. Is there a reason for this? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Here's an example:
[[Image:Actor Page Format.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Before, the page would stretch down to fill out the entire screen, but now it seems to stop in the middle.

:- I also have that same issue, though my screen hasn't lost that much, in which case I'd say it's locked at a particular resolution (1024 I'd have to figure, based upon my own display res). Not to mention it's also present here on this talk page and other pages as well. I too wonder what that's all about. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 13:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

::Might be for the upcoming ad test on IMFDB. will have to wait and see. If that is the case the we will have to change the layout on the pages to something more standard.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 16:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
==best guns for an assassin==
what would be the best guns for an assassin????
:That would depend on the situation he's in. Is the the assassin shooting from a distance? Sniper rifle then. In a place where there are other people around that could hear a gunshot. Suppressed small caliber handgun. You should also remember there is a million and one ways to kill someone. A gun is just one of tools to use.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Choice guns for an assassin:
-H&K USP
-H&K Mk. 23
-Any Glock models
-Agent 47's AMT Hardballers
-Walther P99
-Walther PP or PPK
-FN FNP-45 or FNP-49
-FN Five-Seven
-Colt M1911
-Para-Ordinance P14-45 or P18.9
-Kimber Warrior
-Colt M1911 or Variants
-Beretta 92, 81, or 84
-Browning Hi-Powered
-Ruger Mk. II (Best Bet)
-Browning BDA
-Luger Or High-Standard if your old-school
-Makarov
-SIG P220, P226, P228, P229
-Steyr M9 or GB
-These are some of my personal choices, feel free to comment.
I understand that, but I was looking for something more precise, like in "Assassins" they make a big deal about using those Ruger .22, but in "Collateral" the hitman uses a H&K .45 (well, he also use a Ruger .22), in "The Replacement Killer" the killer is into Berettas 92f, but what would be the perfect gun for a profesional, smart and effective assassin??????

It's hard to say if their is a "perfect" assassin's weapon because people will always have opinions, but the Ruger Mk. 2 is definitely a Top 5, look up a video of a supressed Mk. 2 and you'll see what I mean. I would have to say that either a .380 or .32 pistol for stealth but .45 or 9mm for power. [[Czar]]

:In films like you mention, it's going to depend on what the writer or director chose to use. (Whether it was the ideal choice is another matter.) In Collateral he uses the H&K for the most part because noise isn't an issue and the .45 is a good round. He uses Ruger .22 only when in a restaurant. In the nightclub there's lots of people around, but he could get out with the crowd. The target also had several bodyguards. In the Replacement Killers the 92F was most likely chosen because Chow Yun-Fat used them in his prior films and knew how to handle them. There is no one gun that is the "perfect gun for a professional, smart and effective assassin." Since you're talking handgun distances there's too many good guns to choose from. Go with whatever you feel like in your story (I guess and hope that's the reason why you asked). If I had to choose I'd go with the 1911. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 12:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Agent 47 all the way, AMT Hardballers with optional longslide and supressor. More seriously, I guess a pistol like a Hi-Power or a Beretta 92 with a supressor would be good for closer range killings. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 14:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank ypu guys, Predator, I'm a scriptwritter, I don't own a gun and I don't want to kill anyone, so don't worry. I just like good assassins in movies, what about a H6K p7m8?????, It's such a compact gun for a 9mm, I always thought it was kind like a tactic gun, isn't it????? why Swat teams are into Kimbers?????
:Do you not speak English or are you just a kid? You grammar is terrible and with some many question marks at the end of your sentence, you must be a 12 year old or someone under 15. Also, it's very simple why SWAT like Kimbers, they like 1911s in general for its reliability. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:12, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== Listverse.com ==
Here's a cool little list I found on The List Universe.com about the 10 greatest firearms in history.

http://listverse.com/2009/10/07/top-10-greatest-firearms-in-history/

not such a good list IMO. Where is the Sturmgewher 44? Basically started the assault rifle revolution? The Winchester M1873 (they didn't call it the gun that won the west for nothing) sure the Henry was first, but the Winchester set the standard. [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 06:12, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

well, they can only fit ten in. [[User:jackbel]]

== This is ridiculous...==
anybody else think that the amount of pages slated for deletion is absolutely absurd and unneccesary?

We're cleaning out the pages that are either not good enough or not supposed to be on the wiki. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 22:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I am only restoring some of the pages that look like there was some work put into them. These can still be deleted, but I just want make sure that's what the consensus is. This is probably going to be discussed in the forum. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:06, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

: I made a note about the 'Documentary' matter in the discussion for the [[Mail Call]] page earlier. In any case, I'm sure the admins will let us know what will happen about all that in due course. Other than that, almost all the other pages slated for deletion are piss-poor pages that should indeed be in the Delete category. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

== Reviewguy/girl ==
So, did the search pay off? Do we have our own movie reviewer? What's the deal anyways? Just curious :)--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 20:46, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

:- I almost forgot about that.. Well, indeed, what of it? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:: Are we gonna get a section for film reviews? If so, are the reviews gonna be the "normal" kind (what we see in the papers, tv, etc.) or are the reviews gonna emphasize gun use/usage in films?

== A Question ==
How do I submit a quote from a movie so it will appear on the Featured quotes section? [[User:jackbel]]

: Go [[Template:Quote|here]] and simply edit it in according to the template. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Most Popular Gun? ==

I can't believe this hasn't been asked. So, Lets hear your views.

:- The top most viewed gun page on the site is the [[M1911 pistol series]] ‎(526,596 views), followed by the [[M16 rifle series]] ‎(420,778 views). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I actually meant popular by appearances. I've found out though [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:MostImages here] that it's the Beretta 92FS. Strange how the Annihilator 2000 is 2nd though?!

:That's because it is the icon that appears in the banner at the top of a page that is incomplete.--[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 11:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:: Indeed, by the 'Linked most' attribute, the Annihilator image stat is misleading - Exclude the pages with the Incomplete template and it is certainly NOT the second most used gun image. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:10, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Sons of Anarchy

2010-10-28T00:37:17Z

SAMBAMA: /* Season3 so far. */

==Spoilers==
Thanks for the spoilers all over this page assholes. I came here having seen every episode except for the last one of season 2, thinking there'd be no reason for any spoilers of that particular episode here, I mean what would be the point. What possible purpose is there of spoiling one of the finales on a gun documentation website. But no, once again imfdb proves it's made up of the best and brightest minds of our generation. And what is with the moronic commentary all over the page? I want to know what guns the characters used, not hear your shitty opinions on things.

:Well I'm sorry something got ruined for you. While I watch the show, I've never done any major work on the page, maybe minor edits. I'll see about removing the spoilers (which aren't allowed unless absolutely necessary) and dumb comments. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:32, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

::I understand your frustration, but please understand that IMFDB has a "no spoilers" policy (it IS in our rules). The reason those spoilers are on this page is because some anonymous user (like yourself) added those in without reading the rules first, and we didn't notice. There aren't enough Administrators on this site to monitor every page at all times, or the hundreds of edits made every day; we rely on the members to help enforce our rules. So I'd appreciate it if you refrained from acting as though "IMFDB" is responsible for the work of a particular anonymous user or users, especially if you're going to express your frustration with a profanity-laced tirade. It reduces any sympathy I might have had for your grievances. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

==bs==
Could one of you guys that knows how to screencap good pics really well post some pictures on here. That'd be nice.
:Im gonna buy the season 1 dvd when i can, but you need to change the code for the pics from right to none. it'll make the page all pretty. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

Has anyone bought the season one DVD of this kick-ass show yet? Can't wait to see all the cool screenshots some of you come up with. Hope to see 'em on here soon.

On 10/13/2009, Jax is seen using what appears to be a customized M1911A1 in a shoulder rig. Does anybody know if this has become Jax's new weapon of choice?

*I have the first season so, if you want, I can cap as much as I can when I can as long as someone else takes care of the layout. Additionally, I do not think the .45 is Jax's new standard. Like most of the characters he seems to use whatever is handy and since SAMCRO has access to quite an extensive selection. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]]

:: Am working on capping as much as I can of season 1 and 2...if someone wants to organize them just give me a shout --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I think the custom 1911 we saw Jax carrying in the episode where he searched Weston's house is his new primary sidearm because it was also seen in the latest episode when he tells Clay to put a bullet in the back of his head.- ArmoredMason619

This are just the first caps. More will be forthcoming. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 15:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the kick ass screen caps man. I been waiting awhile for someone to put em up for my favorite show. Hope to see more!- ArmoredMason619

Added more caps and, in my own anal retentive tradition, organized the weapons by class and alphabetically. Got a few more on the way. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 11:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Real nice job with the page man. It looks good and some good screencaps too.- ArmoredMason619

== Happy's guns ==
Anyone know what kind of guns Happy carries?

In the episode where Devil's Tribe crosses over he pulls two service size Glocks out of his vest.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what episode this is from, but he's certainly not holding a Glock. Between the sites and upper slide, I'm left with 1911, BHP, or something else...but certainly no tuperware. Which episode is this?
It was in Fa Gaun

I have reason to believe it is a EAA Witness P 45

I think I saw exposed hammers on those two. Any other guess?

I stated that in the episode where the Devil's Tribe was patched over, Season 1 episode 4, Happy used two fullsize Glocks. The picture is from season 2. The picture is probably a 1911 of some sort.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Judging from the sights and from pictures on Happys face book page this is my bet
http://tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GunSourceFrontPage/Images/EAA/EAApistol.jpg
[[Image:SOA 47.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Note the gun Happy is carrying, you call that a Glock?!]]

==Edits==
I removed the unidentified .357 from this page. I watched the episode over and over and my best cap allowed no clear identification of the weapon other than it may have had ivory grips and also the fact that it is never really seen clearly again but...you can be the judge. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:24, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks a little like a Smith and Wesson k/l frame, short barrel revolver. Check it out, and hopefully you can find the right one. Cheers. - Mcain

[[Image:SOA 46.jpg]]

The 1911 in SOA - most always used by Jax Teller in the second season - is in fact, a Springfield Armory 1911. I believe it to be either modified Mil Spec with Novak Sights, beavertail, flared magwell/MSH, etc, OR more likely, a Springfield Professional (judging by the slanted 'CUSTOM' stamp front right). 12:24, 1 December 2009 - MCain

[[Image:http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/PC9111.jpg]]

==Jaxs Glock==
Anyone know what happened to Jaxs Glock?

I am going to assume they issued him the .45 to give him something distinctive like Clay's USP or Bobby's S&W the Glock being a little more generic than the .45. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

==Guns from the Finale==

In S02EP13, agent Stahl is seen using a black on black Kahr PM9 (not the CW9)after shooting Edmond Hayes.

You will also see Polly Zobelle running what looks like a Smith and Wesson 3913, in the same scene.

Also look for Cameron Hayes when he holds up Halfsac and Tara with a Sig 226(R) or 220. - Mcain

There were also a lot of Shotguns.

==Jaxs season 3 gun==
If they follow what they did last season they are most likely going to give a new gun. Any predictions? Also do you think they are going to get rid of his 45?

==Moved from front page==
''It could very well be a Springfield but I could not quite make out the markings. Any assist would be much appreciated. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 09:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)''

I believe that its a modified Springfield/Colt M1911A1 the reason for this is because it could very likely be Jax's fathers service pistol from when he was in the military during Vietnam.

In a few of the last episodes of season 2 you can clearly seeit is marked Kimber. It looks like it may be a Kimber Royal II 45 ACP ;)

Sorry but in the last few episodes, specifically the episode when Jax goes into Weston's house only to find his children, you can see the markings on the 1911 very clearly. The marking on the back of the slide is that of a Springfield Armory. The marking on the font of the slide, if you're a Springfield fan, you can tell that it says Springfield Custom. Jax uses a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1 Springfeild Custom. Springfield uses clear lettering on their pistols whereas Kimber uses custom cursive, kind of italic.

FRom the Looks of it, i think its a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1 Springfeild Custom. I can tell you that its not Jax's Dads Service Pistol form Vietnam because of the sights on the weapon.

it's very clearly a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1
the address... http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/springfieldarmoryprofessional45.jpg

again as i say its possible that is john tellers service pistol considering springfield suppilied the goverment with 45s during vietnam

To whoever is saying that it could be John Tellers service pistol you are dead wrong. And even more wrong about Springfield supplying firearms to the govt in the VN war. Springfield Armory, Inc. didn't exist in any capacity until 1974. That style of 1911 wasn't popular until at earliest the mid 90s and Professional model 1911s are custom built, you can not send them a gun and have it turned into a professional model.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 14:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Springfield Armory has been around long before '74; however, it was not the company that it is today. Though circulation was one of the lowest - along with US&S - the Springfields were around. In the case of Jaxs, it is agreeably a SA Professional straight from the Custom Shop. Same features, along with the 'CUSTOM' rollmark posted front-right. Great weapon choices for the characters -- I especially loved Clay's Expert.

==Season 3 trailer==
Just saw it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmuLQVetvyg
Anyone care to screencap?

==Season3 so far.==

Can anyone please update this page for season 3?

:I could but, frankly, there is not much new so far. Maybe a few new weapons but nothing major thus far. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

We really do need to update this page.

If no one minds I will cap the current season when it ends. I just find it easier to do it all in one shot. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Good to know. [[SAMBAMA]]

==Evils (Possible) Smith==
Look at the image below, this could very possibly me a Smith 6909, like shown. But there is something about the shape of the slide and possibly the size, that leads me to think otherwise. Also, the writing on the slide is much thicker, Possibly a different producer of the same model. Any-one else?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 22:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:SOA_11.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Bobby Elvis with his standard sidearm]]

[[Image:S&W6906LEFT.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Newer Model Smith & Wesson 6906]]

==Hell Followed arsenal==
Anyone know what guns that were on the table?

The only ones I could make out with any degree of certainty was a pair of Mini Uzi's. Opie was handling what looked like a Mossberg 590 or 500 with ghost ring sights.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 13:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:NCIS: Los Angeles - Season 1

2010-10-27T14:30:43Z

SAMBAMA: /* Anti gun */

==Clarification==
[[Image:NCIS-LA-1x12-REVOLVER-1.2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The killers Smith & Wesson revolver. (Sharpened)]]
I know diddly squat about revolvers, other than it's a Smith & Wesson, I haven't got much of a clue. They all look pretty much the same to me. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:52, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

:''Moved from the main page'': To me it looks like a Smith and Wesson Model 67 with a two inch barrel. I say the Model 67 because it probably is steel framed and has adjustable sights. --[[User:96.32.185.136|96.32.185.136]] 17:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

:''Also moved from the main page'': This is a 2in. barreled Model 15 Combat Masterpiece,nickel plated;the stainless variant the M-67 was only made in 4in. Looks like Pachmayr grips.The excellent screencap reveals that it is actually unloaded.
Hope this helps.

Regards,

Tecolote

Unknown sniper rifle? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:NCIS-LA-1x05-SNIPER-RIFLE-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|.]]

Any ideas about this, or any of the other unknowns? Anyone? [[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

It looks very similar to the Accuracy International Artic Warfare AWM. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

[[Image:Accuracy International Arctic WarfareM - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Accuracy International AWSM in chambered in .338 lapua]]

I think it looks like a Remington Model 7 (with a telescoping sniper buttstock and Parker Hale Bipod)
[[Image:RemingtonModelSevenSuppressed.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington Model Seven Compact Rifle with Integral Sound Suppressor and customized thumb cut stock - .223 Remington. Photographed for IMFDB by MPM2008 from his own Movie Gun Collection. These rifles come in 17 Rem Fireball, .204 Ruger, .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, .243 Win.)]]

From what I can see, the back end of the bolt doesn't look the same. More images:
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Unknown-Rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|1st shot]]
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Unknown-Rifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|2nd shot]]
[[Image:NCIS-LA-Unknown-Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd shot]]
--[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 08:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

[[Image:Well-G22-sniper.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]This airsoft gun seems to be quite similar, especially the stock [[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]]

its actually a fictional airsoft gun [[Media:http://www.airsplat.com/Items/AR-WELL-MB05-C2.htm]] i think, i am probrablly not correct, but feel free to correct me, as i am a noob

Not impossible. Definitely modified though. New muzzle break, suppressor and the buttpad (Correct term? Sounds dirty.) is upside down. The grip also has something extra on the bottom.
So what do we call it? --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 05:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Probalbly a custom job, she is one of North Koprea's top assasins, to maybe she had it built custom.

If I was an assassin, I would NEVER custom order anything, because it would leave a paper trail.--[[User:L.J. Gibbs|L.J. Gibbs]] 20:27, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
== M47 Dragon==

I do not think this is a Dragon but rather it is more a factual error on the part of the show's producers. The M47 Dragon, as far as I know, is no longer in front line service with any branch of the US military and was pretty much phased out of service in the late 1990s so I doubt if it would be in the armory of a frontline Marine unit. In addition the sight unit of the weapon displayed does not look anything like the one on the actual Dragon launcher. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

:Aren't you refuting your own argument? Of course this is a factual error because it's a TV show. It doesn't represent reality, so the armorers used the M47 here even if it's no longer used by the Marines in real life. Thinking about real life isn't such a good way to determine what weapons are used in a FICTIONAL TV show. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

==So what do you guys think about this show?==
I personally don't like it, but I want to know what you guys think.

I personally think it's better than NUMB3RS.

I prefer the original NCIS, but I like LA. [[User:Ramell|Ramell]] 11:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

==m40 rifle==

We sure its an m40? Looks like a standard remington 700 sps varmint with spray paint on it.

== Mossberg 500 Cruiser ==

[[Image:NCIS-LA-Mossberg500Cruiser-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the robbers with his Mossberg 500 Cruiser.]]

This is the same one seen on Justified, right?
Probably same Armourer or something since they are both recent shows.

==Splitting article to seasons==

Should we? I don't mind doing it. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 03:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

:Not yet. It's only been 2 seasons. The original NCIS is at 8 seasons and it's still on one page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

::Fine if that's the case. Need to note on what weaposn were seen in the 2nd season. Some of the others decided to split the 24 article as it was getting way too long. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 20:17, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
==Anti gun==

Anyone else think this? [[User:SAMBAMA]]

How? And sign your posts--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 02:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Remember that episode with the militia? [[User:SAMBAMA]]

Talk:NCIS: Los Angeles - Season 1

2010-10-27T14:29:50Z

SAMBAMA: /* Anti gun */

Talk:NCIS: Los Angeles - Season 1

2010-10-26T23:06:27Z

SAMBAMA: /* Splitting article to seasons */

Talk:Sons of Anarchy

2010-10-19T20:12:39Z

SAMBAMA: /* Season3 so far. */

==Spoilers==
Thanks for the spoilers all over this page assholes. I came here having seen every episode except for the last one of season 2, thinking there'd be no reason for any spoilers of that particular episode here, I mean what would be the point. What possible purpose is there of spoiling one of the finales on a gun documentation website. But no, once again imfdb proves it's made up of the best and brightest minds of our generation. And what is with the moronic commentary all over the page? I want to know what guns the characters used, not hear your shitty opinions on things.
:Well I'm sorry something got ruined for you. While I watch the show, I've never done any major work on the page, maybe minor edits. I'll see about removing the spoilers (which aren't allowed unless absolutely necessary) and dumb comments. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:32, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

==bs==
Could one of you guys that knows how to screencap good pics really well post some pictures on here. That'd be nice.
:Im gonna buy the season 1 dvd when i can, but you need to change the code for the pics from right to none. it'll make the page all pretty. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

Has anyone bought the season one DVD of this kick-ass show yet? Can't wait to see all the cool screenshots some of you come up with. Hope to see 'em on here soon.

On 10/13/2009, Jax is seen using what appears to be a customized M1911A1 in a shoulder rig. Does anybody know if this has become Jax's new weapon of choice?

*I have the first season so, if you want, I can cap as much as I can when I can as long as someone else takes care of the layout. Additionally, I do not think the .45 is Jax's new standard. Like most of the characters he seems to use whatever is handy and since SAMCRO has access to quite an extensive selection. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]]

:: Am working on capping as much as I can of season 1 and 2...if someone wants to organize them just give me a shout --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I think the custom 1911 we saw Jax carrying in the episode where he searched Weston's house is his new primary sidearm because it was also seen in the latest episode when he tells Clay to put a bullet in the back of his head.- ArmoredMason619

This are just the first caps. More will be forthcoming. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 15:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the kick ass screen caps man. I been waiting awhile for someone to put em up for my favorite show. Hope to see more!- ArmoredMason619

Added more caps and, in my own anal retentive tradition, organized the weapons by class and alphabetically. Got a few more on the way. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 11:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Real nice job with the page man. It looks good and some good screencaps too.- ArmoredMason619

== Happy's guns ==
Anyone know what kind of guns Happy carries?

In the episode where Devil's Tribe crosses over he pulls two service size Glocks out of his vest.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what episode this is from, but he's certainly not holding a Glock. Between the sites and upper slide, I'm left with 1911, BHP, or something else...but certainly no tuperware. Which episode is this?
It was in Fa Gaun

I have reason to believe it is a EAA Witness P 45

I think I saw exposed hammers on those two. Any other guess?

I stated that in the episode where the Devil's Tribe was patched over, Season 1 episode 4, Happy used two fullsize Glocks. The picture is from season 2. The picture is probably a 1911 of some sort.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Judging from the sights and from pictures on Happys face book page this is my bet
http://tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GunSourceFrontPage/Images/EAA/EAApistol.jpg
[[Image:SOA 47.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Note the gun Happy is carrying, you call that a Glock?!]]

==Edits==
I removed the unidentified .357 from this page. I watched the episode over and over and my best cap allowed no clear identification of the weapon other than it may have had ivory grips and also the fact that it is never really seen clearly again but...you can be the judge. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:24, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks a little like a Smith and Wesson k/l frame, short barrel revolver. Check it out, and hopefully you can find the right one. Cheers. - Mcain

[[Image:SOA 46.jpg]]

The 1911 in SOA - most always used by Jax Teller in the second season - is in fact, a Springfield Armory 1911. I believe it to be either modified Mil Spec with Novak Sights, beavertail, flared magwell/MSH, etc, OR more likely, a Springfield Professional (judging by the slanted 'CUSTOM' stamp front right). 12:24, 1 December 2009 - MCain

[[Image:http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/PC9111.jpg]]

==Jaxs Glock==
Anyone know what happened to Jaxs Glock?

I am going to assume they issued him the .45 to give him something distinctive like Clay's USP or Bobby's S&W the Glock being a little more generic than the .45. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

==Guns from the Finale==

In S02EP13, agent Stahl is seen using a black on black Kahr PM9 (not the CW9)after shooting Edmond Hayes.

You will also see Polly Zobelle running what looks like a Smith and Wesson 3913, in the same scene.

Also look for Cameron Hayes when he holds up Halfsac and Tara with a Sig 226(R) or 220. - Mcain

There were also a lot of Shotguns.

==Jaxs season 3 gun==
If they follow what they did last season they are most likely going to give a new gun. Any predictions? Also do you think they are going to get rid of his 45?

==Moved from front page==
''It could very well be a Springfield but I could not quite make out the markings. Any assist would be much appreciated. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 09:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)''

I believe that its a modified Springfield/Colt M1911A1 the reason for this is because it could very likely be Jax's fathers service pistol from when he was in the military during Vietnam.

In a few of the last episodes of season 2 you can clearly seeit is marked Kimber. It looks like it may be a Kimber Royal II 45 ACP ;)

Sorry but in the last few episodes, specifically the episode when Jax goes into Weston's house only to find his children, you can see the markings on the 1911 very clearly. The marking on the back of the slide is that of a Springfield Armory. The marking on the font of the slide, if you're a Springfield fan, you can tell that it says Springfield Custom. Jax uses a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1 Springfeild Custom. Springfield uses clear lettering on their pistols whereas Kimber uses custom cursive, kind of italic.

FRom the Looks of it, i think its a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1 Springfeild Custom. I can tell you that its not Jax's Dads Service Pistol form Vietnam because of the sights on the weapon.

it's very clearly a Springfield Armory Professional Model 1911-A1
the address... http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/springfieldarmoryprofessional45.jpg

again as i say its possible that is john tellers service pistol considering springfield suppilied the goverment with 45s during vietnam

To whoever is saying that it could be John Tellers service pistol you are dead wrong. And even more wrong about Springfield supplying firearms to the govt in the VN war. Springfield Armory, Inc. didn't exist in any capacity until 1974. That style of 1911 wasn't popular until at earliest the mid 90s and Professional model 1911s are custom built, you can not send them a gun and have it turned into a professional model.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 14:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Springfield Armory has been around long before '74; however, it was not the company that it is today. Though circulation was one of the lowest - along with US&S - the Springfields were around. In the case of Jaxs, it is agreeably a SA Professional straight from the Custom Shop. Same features, along with the 'CUSTOM' rollmark posted front-right. Great weapon choices for the characters -- I especially loved Clay's Expert.

==Season 3 trailer==
Just saw it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmuLQVetvyg
Anyone care to screencap?

==Season3 so far.==

Can anyone please update this page for season 3?

:I could but, frankly, there is not much new so far. Maybe a few new weapons but nothing major thus far. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

We really do need to update this page.

==Evils (Possible) Smith==
Look at the image below, this could very possibly me a Smith 6909, like shown. But there is something about the shape of the slide and possibly the size, that leads me to think otherwise. Also, the writing on the slide is much thicker, Possibly a different producer of the same model. Any-one else?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 22:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:SOA_11.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Bobby Elvis with his standard sidearm]]

[[Image:S&W6906LEFT.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Newer Model Smith & Wesson 6906]]

==Hell Followed arsenal==
Anyone know what guns that were on the table?

The only ones I could make out with any degree of certainty was a pair of Mini Uzi's. Opie was handling what looked like a Mossberg 590 or 500 with ghost ring sights.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 13:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

User:SAMBAMA

2010-10-09T14:25:46Z

SAMBAMA: New page: Just a good old Christian South Alabama country boy.

Just a good old Christian South Alabama country boy.