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Talk:The Man with the Golden Gun

2010-12-18T23:44:52Z

RedJedRevolver:

The scene in the beginning with the mobster's Browning always bothered me. Why does it have a suppressor but have un-suppressed sound effects, and are viewers supposed to believe that the Hi-Power has an unlimited magazine capacity? Oh, Hollywood...

Hey man, just chill and enjoy a classic Bond movie [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 05:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me or does the golden gun's barrel seem to have too large of a bore to be a 4.2 mm?[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:44, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Thief

2010-07-09T22:30:05Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Custom Jim Hoag M1911A1 */

''Thief'' is the 1981 film that marked the directorial debut of Michael Mann. It starred James Caan as Frank, a jewel thief. Mann, director of other famous films such as ''[[Heat]]'' and ''[[Collateral]]'' is known for his attention to detail, especially in firearms. He is supposedly a certified range instructor himself, but for this film, he and actor Caan attended classes at Gunsite, a renowned firearms training facility. The story goes that they trained in the "Modern Combat Technique," until Jeff Cooper (founder of Gunsite, and the technique) learned who Mann's film protagonist was (a criminal). Cooper insisted that a thief would never be allowed to learn the Modern Technique and refused to continue instruction. Allegedly, Chuck Taylor, Cooper's operations manager at the time (and a well-known instructor himself), then decided to take them off-site and teach them the methods you see in the film.

Caan's training is obvious, as he uses an exaggerated Weaver Stance, high thumbhold grip, speed reloading, and room clearing techniques directly attributable to the Modern Combat Technique.

'''The following guns were used in the movie ''Thief'':'''

[[Image:Jimmy_Cann.jpg|right|300px|thumb| ''Thief'' (1981)]]

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==Custom Jim Hoag M1911A1==
One of the guns used by the main character, Frank ([[James Caan]]), is a 6" long slide [[M1911A1]] pistol customized by California gunsmith Jim Hoag. There is a long vertical cutout on the skeletonized trigger, which means the pistol is most likely a Colt Gold Cup National Match, or just used such a trigger. Hoag Gun Works modified the pistol by lengthening the slide, squaring the trigger guard, adding a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, skeletonized hammer and beavertail grip safety. If this pistol is indeed a Gold Cup, then it is presumably chambered in .45 ACP.
[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]
[[Image:WA490 4 mark.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film.]]
[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.(Note: Tyler Durden- Good thing its not taught or negligent discharges into hands would be everywhere.)]]
[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"I am the last guy in the world that you wanna fuck with."'' Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]
[[Image:Thief_longslide1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Best view of Frank's ([[James Caan]]) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.]]
[[Image:Thief-1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Like in the scene when he does a brass check, his longslide 1911A1 changes to a normal Colt Gold Cup NM when clearing the rooms.]]
[[Image:Thief-1911LS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank aims his longslide 1911A1 on a wounded Leo.]]
[[Image:Thief-1911LS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank fires his longslide 1911A1 at Leo.]]
[[Image:Thief_longslide5.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Frank changing out a magazine outside Leo's home. Note that the slide isn't locked back, he only fired 5 to 6 rounds prior. So he would have 1 to 2 rounds remaining depending on how he loaded his gun. Frank is smart enough to swap in a fully loaded magazine at the opportune time rather than run out in the middle of the gun fight and then try to reload.]]
[[Image:Thief_reload.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Frank loading in a fresh magazine.]]

==Colt Combat Commander==
When Frank ([[James Caan]]) first goes to visit Attaglia ([[Tom Signorelli]]) about his money. A [[Colt Commander]] is seen in the hidden compartment of the door panel. In one brief scene, Frank flashes the Colt Combat Commander at a nightclub bouncer played by a young [[William Petersen]]. Frank is later seen with at his car lot when he is looking for Barry ([[James Belushi]]). But he is unable to use it because he gets knock out by a mobster with an M1 Carbine.
[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Commander]]
[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]
[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a young Willam Peterson.]]
[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank with his Commander as he gets knock out by the mobster.]]
It looks like the stainless model, but I don't think stainless CC's were available in 1980, so it's probably a chromed finish. It has a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, and custom skeletonized hammer. Even though the entire pistol cannot be seen, due to the crease in Frank's waistband and the shadow it casts, it appears to be the shorter slide of a Combat Commander.

==High Standard Model 10==
A [[High Standard Model 10]] shotgun is used by Carl ([[Dennis Farina]]), at Frank's car dealership and the final shootout. [[Dennis Farina]]'s role as a mobster in the film is contradictory as to what he was in real life, a Chicago Police officer for 18 years.
[[Image:High standard 10 SHG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|High Standard Model 10]]
[[Image:Thief-HS10-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Carl fires his High Standard Model 10 at Barry.]]
[[Image:Thief-HS10-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Carl with his High Standard Model 10 outside Leo's home.]]
[[Image:Thief-HS10-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the High Standard Model 10.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 19==
Leo ([[Robert Prosky]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19]] with pearl grips at the end of the film.
[[Image:Smith&Wesson-Model-19.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 19 - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:Thief-SW28-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Leo draws his Smith & Wesson Model 19.]]
[[Image:Thief-SW28-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Leo fires his Smith & Wesson Model 19 at Frank.]]
[[Image:Thief-SW28-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A wounded Leo aims his Smith & Wesson Model 19 at Frank.]]
[[Image:Thief-SW28-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Best view of the Smith & Wesson Model 19.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose==
Attaglia ([[Tom Signorelli]]) carries a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose]] in the film. It's mostly tucked in his waistband so it's hard to tell.
[[Image:SW19SN.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose - .357 Magnum.]]
[[Image:Thief-SW19-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Smith & Wesson Model 19 tucked in his waistband.]]
[[Image:Thief-SW19-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Attaglia draws his Smith & Wesson Model 19 after being knocked out by Frank.]]
This appears to be a Model 66 as it appears to be stainless steel rather than shiney nickel plated.- Jon P

==Remington 870 Shotgun==
Sgt. Urizzi ([[John Santucci]]) is seen armed with a [[Remington 870 Shotgun]] when he pulls over Frank ([[James Caan]]). [[John Santucci]]'s role as a police officer in the film is contradictory as to what he was in real life, a former thief. In addition to being a technical advisor for the film, most of the tools used by Frank ([[James Caan]]) to crack the safes were his.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Magnum - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:Thief-870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Urizzi holds a Remington 870 Shotgun on Frank.]]

==M1 Carbine==
An [[M1 Carbine]] is used by one of the mobsters at Frank's car dealership.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Carbine]]
[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mobster taking cover armed with an M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mobster hits Frank in the back of the head with his M1 Carbine.]]
It either appears to bend after hitting him or has a folding stock? -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

==Unknown Rifle==
[[Image:Thief-UNKRIFLE-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Thief-UNKRIFLE-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
looks like a G3 or HK91 -Joe (Note: Good job Joe your dead on its either definitely but you can't tell.- Tyler Durden)

More likely the Hk91 or as it would be commercially available in the USA rather than the G3 which was not imported in the same numbers. Another clue is the entire weapon is obviously black including the foreend. A G3 would have green furniture.- Jon P

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Avatar

2010-06-26T18:33:17Z

RedJedRevolver: /* GS-221 Base Carbine unit (Standard Issue Rifle) */

''Avatar'' is the 2009 science fiction adventure film that recently became the world's highest grossing film of all time. The movie was directed by [[James Cameron]] (''[[Aliens]]'', ''[[Titanic]]'' and ''[[The Terminator]]'').

'''The following weapons appear in the film ''Avatar'':'''
[[Image:Avatar2.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Avatar'' (2009)]]
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==AVR-30 (M60 type MG)==

The AVR-30 Machine Gun is used as a door gun on the SA-2 Samson tiltrotors, and as an assault rifle by the ten-foot-tall Avatars. The weapon closely resembles an [[M60 machine gun]] in its frame and barrel assembly and uses a side-mounted detachable drum magazine (very closely resembling an conical [[MG42]] or MG3) instead of an ammo belt. The AVR-M60 has a very notable triangular barrel shroud as a subtle nod to the original M60 (which is easily recognisable by its slotted barrel shroud and tripod). Jake Sully ([[Sam Worthington]]) uses this during the Thanator attack and during the final battle until he pulls out his grenades. Norm Spellman ([[Joel David Moore]]) uses one during the final battle as well.

[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Avatar-gun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A behind the scenes still of the AVR-30.]]
[[Image:35565.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Director James Cameron handles the AVR-30 in a production image.]]
[[Image:Avatar 21008.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While in his Avatar, Jake Sully ([[Sam Worthington]]) fires the AVR-30 when trapped by a Thanator.]]

==SN-9 WASP (Custom Break-open Revolver) ==
A WASP revolver is the sidearm of Col. Quaritch ([[Stephen Lang]]) and uses 9mm hypervelocity sabot rounds. . He keeps the handgun in a crossdraw thigh holster and is seen using it when he tries to stop the fleeing Samson helicopter, and during the final battle to try to dislodge Jake. (The name for the handgun is taken from the "Avatar Survival Guide".) The handgun is said to be resemble the Russian revolver MP-412.
[[Image:WASP_gun_revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px|WASP handgun.]]
[[Image:Ava004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Col. Quaritch ([[Stephen Lang]]) opens fire with the WASP.]]
[[Image:Colonel_Quaritch.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A production still of [[Stephen Lang]] as Colonel Quaritch holding his WASP handgun]]

==GS-221 Base Carbine unit (Standard Issue Rifle)==
Seen used by the RDA SecFor on Pandora. According to the "Human Hardware" featurette the weapons are made by the fictional company "MATANZA ARMS CORP.". The props, realized by Weta Workshop, have been built in at least 2 variants: the Standard Issue Rifle GS-221 and the Personal Defence Weapon(PDW)variant with a shorter barrel. From a closer inspection of the weapons, resemblences can be clearly seen to the MR-C (Modular Rifle Caseless) that appeared in Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter series of games.
The shotgun and the underslung weapon on the rifles have similarities, so one could assume a shorter shotgun is underneath the GS-221(Rifle)much like the Master Key system used by SWAT and Military CQB forces. (note the ejection ports on the rifles in the picture below). Col. Quaritch ([[Stephen Lang]]) fires a PDW variant at the escaping Samson helicopter before switching to his revolver. The actual gun being used seems to be slightly customized [[Magpul PDR]]. The GS-221 with under slung bullpup shotgun or grenade launcher (Appears to be similar to the Shotgun main body), the Shotgun and the PDW (Flamethrower hidden by the Bullpup Shotgun).
Some rifles look like they have under-barrel attachments that could be a shot gun or a grenade launcher, however they were never fired during the film.
[[Image:Avatar 21009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RDA soldiers advance with their rifles.]]
[[Image:Avatar 21006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RDA soldiers fire their weapons.]]
[[Image:Avatar 21005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An RDA soldier with a CARB Base Unit. Another bullpup weapons is visible under the barrel it is a Munitions Launcher that can carry High Expolsives, and other similar shots.]]
[[Image:Avatar_weapons_image01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Movie weapons props at WETA Workshop.]]
left to right: Flamethrower , GS-221 standard version, Bullpup Shotgun,PDW with handle LAM and electronic sight
[[Image:Avatar_weapons_image02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Movie weapons props from IGN featurette "Human Hardware"]]

==Combat Shotgun==
Seen used by RDA operatives in the trailers.
Trudy Chacon ([[Michelle Rodriguez]]) and Norm Spellman is seen armed with one in the film.

[[Image:Avatar_weapons_image01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shotgun is the one with the handgrip.]]

Weapons of the movie appear to be resin casted.
The shotgun and the underslung weapon on the rifles have similarities, so one could assume a shorter shotgun is underneath the GS-221(Rifle)much like the Master Key system used by SWAT and Military CQB forces. The shotgun actually appears in the game and is a massive weapon that fires 20mm rounds, each bullet packed with small spherical pellets that easily injure the fauna.

in a behind the scene video the show one of the shot guns being fired. it its pump action so it might be based on a Mossberg 500 Bullpup. it would probably make the underslung shotguns just for show.

==RDA Handgun==
An semi automatic handgun made by RDA is seen used by a RDA operative before he is pulled off the gunship. A major handguard has been added to the actual weapon. Trudy Chacon ([[Michelle Rodriguez]]) holds the handgun on the brig guard while helping to break Jake ([[Sam Worthington]]), Norm ([[Joel David Moore]]) and Grace ([[Sigourney Weaver]]) escape. Jake then handles the handgun as Trudy goes to start up the Samson.
[[Image:Avatar 017.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An RDA operative fires the handgun before he is pulled off the Samson Tiltrotor by a Mountain Banshee.]]
[[Image:Avatar 3005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jake Sully ([[Sam Worthington]]) with the handgun as he and Grace race to Trudy's Samson Tiltrotor.]]

== MBS-9M .50 Caliber "Hydra" (Tri-Barreled Machine Gun)==

The MBS-9M "Hydra" is a Tri-Barreled Machine Gun that fires .50 Caliber Uranium "Needle" Rounds. Resembling the [[General Dynamics GAU-19/A]], the three barrels on the Hydra do not spin like a GAU, but all three barrels fire in full-automatic simultaneously. The Hydra is seen used as door guns on the Aerospatiale SA-2 Samson, and on the Valkyrie that is used as a bomber. Trudy's Samson, had two auto fired during the battle for the Tree of Souls.
[[Image:Capture 062.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A doorgunner firing a Hydra from a SA-2 Samson tilt-rotor helicopter.]]
[[Image:Ava006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An RDA soldier mans the Hydra.]]

==Bush Boss FD-11 (Flamethrower Unit)==
Prop seen in the "Human Hardware" featurette. In the movie it is used briefly by a RDA operative to burn plant life during the final battle sequence.
According to the "Pandorapedia", a similar but bigger weapon would be an optional equipment for the AMP suit; however this system is not visible in the movie.
[[Image:Ava019.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== GAU-90 30mm Autocannon (Fictional Heavy Cannon)==
Carried like rifles by the AMP suits. Col. Miles Quartich ([[Stephen Lang]]) and Cpl. Lyle Wainfleet ([[Matt Gerald]]) use GAU-90's on their suits during the final battle. The GAU-90 uses 30mm rounds and has two huge sling hooks notably. It has an attached bayonet and is clearly a long-distance weapon.
[[Image:Avatar 3001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jake Sully ([[Sam Worthington]]) rolls past an AMP suit armed with a GAU-90.]]
[[Image:Avatar 3003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cpl. Lyle Wainfleet ([[Matt Gerald]]) aims his GAU-90 at the charging Na'vi.]]
[[Image:Avatar 21006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The RDA soldiers fire their weapons at the advancing Na'vi.]]

==Gatling Guns==
Gatling-style Guns resembling the [[M61 Vulcan]] are seen being fired from Col. Quaritch's Dragon gunship. These might be 20mm rounds.
[[Image:Ava016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Multi-rocket launcher ==
The Dragon Assault Ship, in line with modern-day gunships, is equipped with an unguided rocket pods similar to UB-series launchers fitted to a famous Hind helicopter or a AH-1 Cobra.
[[Image:Dragon Arnaments-Gatling guns, sentry guns,IFF beacon.bmp]]

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Talk:Red Heat

2010-06-17T00:47:36Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Model 66 or 629? */

== Question about the Sleeve Device ==

If anyone can answer this, how does a sleeve device work? I've been wondering how he can pull the gun out from under his sleeve. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:Spring-loaded.-protoAuthor

== Model 66 or 629? ==
I moved this to the discussion page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

A Snubnosed [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]] with Pachmayr combat grips, is the sidearm of Chicago Police Detective Art Ridžić ([[James Belushi]]) in the movie.
[[Image:Smith-&-Wesson-686.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub with 2" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel66a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ridžić ([[Jim Belushi]]) takes aim at the Cleanhead Apartment with his Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub nose revolver - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel66Outside2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''''"You look like Marvin Hagler. I lost money on Hagler!!"''''' ]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel66StreetNighta.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ridžić ([[Jim Belushi]]) takes cover from a gun toting Rosta while holding his Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub nose revolver - .357 Magnum]]

- Looks too big to be a K-Frame S&W 66. You can also tell by the barrel and the subtle difference in the shape of the ejector shroud (compared to a 2.5" Model 66 barrel.) that it is probably an N-Frame 629 with 3" barrel in .44 Magnum. This makes sense if Belushi's character gives Arnie a full-sized Model 29. He probably really liked the "big" Magnums! - --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 20:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think you're on to something there!!!! :) Something to look into! I will try to find a 629 snubbie to photograph for comparison! THANKS! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:52, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I also believe it is a Smith & Wesson model 629 with a three inch barrel. Another possibility is the .44 Special N frame M624. However, I cannot see the typical barrel taper of the M624 in the pictures and the cylinder also seems to fill the frame almost completely. The model 624 features a slightly shorter cylinder, as the .44 Special rounds are shorter in length as well.
[[Image:RH-SW66-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
I took this screencap only to show the muzzle. Looks like a .357 to me not a .44. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:After comparing the 66 to the 629, I agree with Predator. This is definitely a model 66. 1) the muzzle is definitely that of a .357 revolver. 2) the barrel on Belushi's gun looks a bit too long to be a 629, but it looks EXACTLY like a model 66. The first shot is a dead giveaway. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 18:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:M6293.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

I would agree that in many of the shots it looks like a 629 with a 3inch barrel, they existed at the time, and in the first shots the barrel and the cylinder appear too large for a .357, the gun itself is too large as well. Belushi has large hands but that gun seems to dwarf them. In the final picture I could see how that is a .357, but the first shots are without a doubt a .44 [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 18:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

While in some of the shots the gun seems large. I don't think people realize that k-frames like the Model 66 or 19 are full size guns. A snub-nose Model 66 or 19 is not the same size as a j-frame Model 36. Here is a pic below for comparison. Now if the gun Belushi is using is an n-frame, I think it would be a Model 27 - .357 with a stainless finish. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:SW66vSW36.JPG||thumb|none|500px|SW66 v SW36]]

We understand perfectly, but the barrel size is just too large, I have rather large hands myself and I own a full size revolver, and my hands make that gun seem diminutive. My point is not that I think you are wrong with the muzzle shots, but the others that gun is too large.[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

==Model 64 or 60?==
* Det. Sgt. Gallagher ([[Richard Bright]]) carries what looks like a S&W Model 10 snubnose, except in Stainless steel, which would make it the S&W Model 64.
:The cylinder looks like it only holds five shots, meaning it would be the Model 60 snub. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::It may be, but it also looks like a 6 shot to me. It's always hard since actors have different sized hands and this looks larger than a Model 60 to me. I will scroll through the film again and scan for better pics of the cylinder. -[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think its a Model 64. On a Model 60, when looking at the gun from the right side, you cannot see the ejector rod, but on a Model 64, you can. Notice how can most definitely see the ejector rod on Gallagher's gun. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 07:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Smith wesson 60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|You can't see the ejector rod here]]
[[Image:S&W64Snub.jpg|thumb|none|400px|You CAN see the ejector rod here]]
Actually, looking at it now, while you can see the ejector rod, the barrel on Gallagher's gun is a little too long to be a model 64. But it IS the right size for a nickel [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]], which also has the ejector rod exposed on the right side. That's definitely the gun that Gallagher uses. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 07:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:StainlessS&WModel36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The barrel is the right size and the ejector rod is exposed. This is definitely the right gun used]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel-64 2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Det. Sgt. Gallagher ([[Richard Bright]]) ready in the hallway with his S&W Model 64 - .38 spl.]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel-64 3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Det. Sgt. Gallagher ([[Richard Bright]]) makes an arrest with his S&W Model 64 - .38 spl]]

Sneakers

2010-06-16T20:27:30Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Mossberg 590 Mariner */

''Sneakers'' is a 1992 thriller starring [[Robert Redford]] as the head of a team of security specialists who unknowingly get involved in the theft of the ultimate codebreaking machine.

'''The following guns were used in the film ''Sneakers'':'''

[[Image:Sneakers Poster.jpg|thumb|right|400px|''Sneakers'' (1992)]]
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==Smith & Wesson Model 36==
The [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] with Pachmayr grips is the weapon Donald Crease ([[Sidney Poitier]]) takes out when the team discovers how dangerous the codebreaking machine can be. Martin Bishop ([[Robert Redford]]) then takes it with him to the meeting with the Russian attache.

[[Image:StainlessS&WModel36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 36, nickel plated - .38 Special. This model is often confused with the similar looking Smith & Wesson Model 60, which is a fully stainless steel gun.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 028.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Donald Crease ([[Sidney Poitier]]) loads his S&W.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 034.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of the S&W. Note the grips.]]

==Smith & Wesson 659==

A [[Smith & Wesson 659]] with Pachmayr grips is featured prominently in the film.
[[Image:S&W659 RD-MrPink.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson 659 - 9x19mm. This is the Screen used Hero Gun held and fired by "Mister Pink" Steve Buscemi in the film [[Reservoir Dogs]].]]

[[Image:Sneakers 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dick Gordon ([[Timothy Busfield]]) smiles as he's told to take care of Bishop.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Gordon's S&W on the floor.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 007.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Liz ([[Mary McDonnell]]) nervously holds the S&W. The weapon appears to have jammed in this shot, but it is shown as normal in the next shot.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cosmo ([[Ben Kingsley]]) threatens Bishop with the 659.]]

==Beretta 92FS==
The [[Beretta 92FS]] is in the hands of an NSA agent at the end of the film.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]

==Mossberg 590 Mariner==
The [[Mossberg 590|Mossberg 590 Mariner]] shotgun is featured prominently in the film.
[[Image:Mossberg500AMarinerExt.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 590 Mariner (20" barrel) with Extended Magazine Tube - 12 Gauge]]

[[Image:Sneakers 002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Buddy Wallace ([[Eddie Jones]]) fires the Mossberg at the ceiling when he suspects someone is hiding there.]]

==Heckler & Koch SP89==
The female NSA Agent at the end carries a [[Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch SP89]]. Carl ([[River Phoenix]]) hilariously refers to the weapon as an Uzi.
[[Image:H&KSP89.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch SP89 Pistol with factory 15-round magazine 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Sneakers 024.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The female NSA agent holds the H&K on Carl.]]

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Sneakers

2010-06-16T20:26:40Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Mossberg 500A Mariner */

''Sneakers'' is a 1992 thriller starring [[Robert Redford]] as the head of a team of security specialists who unknowingly get involved in the theft of the ultimate codebreaking machine.

'''The following guns were used in the film ''Sneakers'':'''

[[Image:Sneakers Poster.jpg|thumb|right|400px|''Sneakers'' (1992)]]
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==Smith & Wesson Model 36==
The [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] with Pachmayr grips is the weapon Donald Crease ([[Sidney Poitier]]) takes out when the team discovers how dangerous the codebreaking machine can be. Martin Bishop ([[Robert Redford]]) then takes it with him to the meeting with the Russian attache.

[[Image:StainlessS&WModel36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 36, nickel plated - .38 Special. This model is often confused with the similar looking Smith & Wesson Model 60, which is a fully stainless steel gun.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 028.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Donald Crease ([[Sidney Poitier]]) loads his S&W.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 034.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of the S&W. Note the grips.]]

==Smith & Wesson 659==

A [[Smith & Wesson 659]] with Pachmayr grips is featured prominently in the film.
[[Image:S&W659 RD-MrPink.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson 659 - 9x19mm. This is the Screen used Hero Gun held and fired by "Mister Pink" Steve Buscemi in the film [[Reservoir Dogs]].]]

[[Image:Sneakers 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dick Gordon ([[Timothy Busfield]]) smiles as he's told to take care of Bishop.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Gordon's S&W on the floor.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 007.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Liz ([[Mary McDonnell]]) nervously holds the S&W. The weapon appears to have jammed in this shot, but it is shown as normal in the next shot.]]
[[Image:Sneakers 016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cosmo ([[Ben Kingsley]]) threatens Bishop with the 659.]]

==Beretta 92FS==
The [[Beretta 92FS]] is in the hands of an NSA agent at the end of the film.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]

==Mossberg 590 Mariner==
The [[Mossberg 500|Mossberg 590 Mariner]] shotgun is featured prominently in the film.
[[Image:Mossberg500AMarinerExt.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500A Mariner (20" barrel) with Extended Magazine Tube - 12 Gauge]]

[[Image:Sneakers 002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Buddy Wallace ([[Eddie Jones]]) fires the Mossberg at the ceiling when he suspects someone is hiding there.]]

==Heckler & Koch SP89==
The female NSA Agent at the end carries a [[Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch SP89]]. Carl ([[River Phoenix]]) hilariously refers to the weapon as an Uzi.
[[Image:H&KSP89.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch SP89 Pistol with factory 15-round magazine 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Sneakers 024.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The female NSA agent holds the H&K on Carl.]]

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Talk:Red Heat

2010-06-16T18:36:58Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Model 66 or 629? */

== Question about the Sleeve Device ==

If anyone can answer this, how does a sleeve device work? I've been wondering how he can pull the gun out from under his sleeve. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:Spring-loaded.-protoAuthor

== Model 66 or 629? ==
I moved this to the discussion page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

A Snubnosed [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]] with Pachmayr combat grips, is the sidearm of Chicago Police Detective Art Ridžić ([[James Belushi]]) in the movie.
[[Image:Smith-&-Wesson-686.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub with 2" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel66a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ridžić ([[Jim Belushi]]) takes aim at the Cleanhead Apartment with his Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub nose revolver - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel66Outside2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''''"You look like Marvin Hagler. I lost money on Hagler!!"''''' ]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel66StreetNighta.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ridžić ([[Jim Belushi]]) takes cover from a gun toting Rosta while holding his Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub nose revolver - .357 Magnum]]

- Looks too big to be a K-Frame S&W 66. You can also tell by the barrel and the subtle difference in the shape of the ejector shroud (compared to a 2.5" Model 66 barrel.) that it is probably an N-Frame 629 with 3" barrel in .44 Magnum. This makes sense if Belushi's character gives Arnie a full-sized Model 29. He probably really liked the "big" Magnums! - --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 20:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think you're on to something there!!!! :) Something to look into! I will try to find a 629 snubbie to photograph for comparison! THANKS! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:52, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I also believe it is a Smith & Wesson model 629 with a three inch barrel. Another possibility is the .44 Special N frame M624. However, I cannot see the typical barrel taper of the M624 in the pictures and the cylinder also seems to fill the frame almost completely. The model 624 features a slightly shorter cylinder, as the .44 Special rounds are shorter in length as well.
[[Image:RH-SW66-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
I took this screencap only to show the muzzle. Looks like a .357 to me not a .44. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:After comparing the 66 to the 629, I agree with Predator. This is definitely a model 66. 1) the muzzle is definitely that of a .357 revolver. 2) the barrel on Belushi's gun looks a bit too long to be a 629, but it looks EXACTLY like a model 66. The first shot is a dead giveaway. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 18:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:M6293.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

I would agree that in many of the shots it looks like a 629 with a 3inch barrel, they existed at the time, and in the first shots the barrel and the cylinder appear too large for a .357, the gun itself is too large as well. Belushi has large hands but that gun seems to dwarf them. In the final picture I could see how that is a .357, but the first shots are without a doubt a .44 [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 18:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

==Model 64 or 60?==
* Det. Sgt. Gallagher ([[Richard Bright]]) carries what looks like a S&W Model 10 snubnose, except in Stainless steel, which would make it the S&W Model 64.
:The cylinder looks like it only holds five shots, meaning it would be the Model 60 snub. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::It may be, but it also looks like a 6 shot to me. It's always hard since actors have different sized hands and this looks larger than a Model 60 to me. I will scroll through the film again and scan for better pics of the cylinder. -[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think its a Model 64. On a Model 60, when looking at the gun from the right side, you cannot see the ejector rod, but on a Model 64, you can. Notice how can most definitely see the ejector rod on Gallagher's gun. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 07:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Smith wesson 60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|You can't see the ejector rod here]]
[[Image:S&W64Snub.jpg|thumb|none|400px|You CAN see the ejector rod here]]
Actually, looking at it now, while you can see the ejector rod, the barrel on Gallagher's gun is a little too long to be a model 64. But it IS the right size for a nickel [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]], which also has the ejector rod exposed on the right side. That's definitely the gun that Gallagher uses. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 07:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:StainlessS&WModel36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The barrel is the right size and the ejector rod is exposed. This is definitely the right gun used]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel-64 2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Det. Sgt. Gallagher ([[Richard Bright]]) ready in the hallway with his S&W Model 64 - .38 spl.]]
[[Image:RH-S&WModel-64 3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Det. Sgt. Gallagher ([[Richard Bright]]) makes an arrest with his S&W Model 64 - .38 spl]]

Talk:Midnight Run

2010-04-18T18:40:13Z

RedJedRevolver:

Talk:Midnight Run

2010-04-18T18:39:58Z

RedJedRevolver: New page: A mob sniper loads his Ruger. This is a Remington 740/742/7400 not a Ruger. The other "sniper" rifle is a 7400, Semi-auto not the 7600 pump.

[[Image:Mrun-rifle1a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A mob sniper loads his Ruger.]]

This is a Remington 740/742/7400 not a Ruger. The other "sniper" rifle is a 7400, Semi-auto not the 7600 pump.

Midnight Run

2010-04-18T18:38:57Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Ruger Mini-14 */

Midnight Run

2010-04-18T18:38:30Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Remington Model 7400 */

Midnight Run

2010-04-18T18:37:16Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Remington Model 7400 */

Midnight Run

2010-04-18T18:36:42Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Remington Model 7600 */

Halloween (2007)

2010-04-11T17:31:14Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Browning Auto 5 shotgun */

[[Image:Halloween2007poster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|Halloween (2007)]]
'''Halloween''' (2007) is a re-imagined style remake of the original horror classic '''Halloween''' (1978) by John Carpenter. This film marks the third horror movie by rock musician turned director Rob Zombie, the first two being ''[[House of 1000 Corpses]]'' and it's sequel, ''[[The Devil's Rejects]]''. This film diverged solidly from the original film in that it gave a much larger back story to Doctor Loomis and Michael Myers, primarily his childhood years and the years that he was incarcerated in the mental hospital. Also, in the original ''[[Halloween]]'', the revelation that Laurie Strode is related to Michael Myers was not revealed until the second Halloween movie. The primary reason why Laurie encountered Michael Myers in the original script was completely incidental. She just happened to be around the other teens who crossed paths with Myers.

'''Gun Law Inaccuracies:'''
One of the more inaccurate Hollywood falsehoods is the depiction that someone (anyone) can walk into a gun store in Illinois and walk out with a handgun, no questions asked. This is a common myth that is, unfortunately, propagated '''constantly''' in Hollywood and in movie scripts. Though based on the real life town of Haddonfield, NJ ''(Original co-writer and producer Debra Hill grew up in Haddonfield, NJ)'', the fictional town of Haddonfield is based in Illinois. In the state of Illinois there is a 72 hour waiting period for handguns and all buyers must apply for and receive an FOID (Firearms Owners Identification Card). The film depicts Dr. Loomis ([[Malcolm McDowell]]) as someone who knows nothing about guns, walking into a large, established retail gun store and managing to walk out with a Colt Python revolver. Not very likely in this day and age, however, it is myths like these that fuel calls for 'stricter gun control' amongst people who are ignorant of current gun laws.

In February 2009, Rob Zombie began filming the sequel to '''Halloween''' (2007) - currently titled '''"H2"''' It was released in the Fall of 2009, which is a really fast turn around time for a major motion picture.

''The Following guns were used in the ''re-imagined'' Rob Zombie film '''Halloween (2007)''':''

==Smith & Wesson Model 36 "Chiefs Special"==
After Michael Myers at age 10, is incarcerated for a series of gruesome murders, his mother Deborah Myers ([[Sheri Moon Zombie]]) decides to commit suicide. In the depths of despair, she watches family home movies while holding a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] "Chief Special" revolver - 38 Special.
[[Image:S&W 36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith and Wesson Model 36 - .38 special - 5 shot]]
[[Image:Halloween-Snub2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A distraught Deborah Myers ([[Sheri Moon Zombie]]) holds a Smith & Wesson Model 36 "Chiefs Special" while contemplating suicide - .38 Special]]

==[[Smith & Wesson Model 17#Smith & Wesson Model 617‎|Smith & Wesson Model 617]] Revolver==
* When Doctor Samuel Loomis ([[Malcolm McDowell]]) goes to a gun store to purchase a handgun, he expresses interest in a silver revolver, a Smith & Wesson Model 617 Revolver. The Gunstore clerk lets him handle it, mentioning that it is a ".22 Smith & Wesson". Dr. Loomis seems anxious to get the transaction over with and obviously knows little to nothing about firearms. The clerk notices this and mentions that the small .22 long rifle cartridge will just 'piss off' an attacker.
[[Image:Smith & Wesson Model 617.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Smith & Wesson Model 617 - .22LR]]
[[Image:Halloween-S&W-22LRa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Samuel Loomis ([[Malcolm McDowell]]) handles a stainless Smith & Wesson Model 617 Revolver - .22 LR]]

== Colt Python ==
* Sensing that Doctor Samuel Loomis ([[Malcolm McDowell]]) needs a larger caliber handgun, a gunstore clerk suggests a [[Colt Python|Colt Python .357 magnum revolver]] in matte stainless finish. He merely calls it a ".357 magnum" and mentions that it will blow someone's head off. He later asks "What are you hunting?". The film, of course, ignores the fact that a hand gun buyer in Illinois must have an FOID Card and wait 72 hours prior to picking up a firearm.
[[Image:ColtPythonSS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|[[Colt Python]] Stainless Steel variant with 4" Barrel and Colt marked Rubber combat grips - .357 Magnum The version seen in the film has pearl grips.]]
[[Image:Halloween-357Mag 01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Gun Store clerk handles the Colt Python in matte Stainless finish - .357 magnum.]]
[[Image:Halloween-357MagnumHousea.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Colt Python (in matte Stainless finish and pearl grips) falls out of Loomis' trench coat - .357 magnum]]
[[Image:Halloween-357MagnumAtticA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Laurie Strode ([[Scout Taylor-Compton]]) crawls through the attic with Loomis' Colt Python - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:Halloween-357MagnumFallsFloorA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Laurie Strode ([[Scout Taylor-Compton]]) manages to hold onto her Colt Python after she crashes through the ceiling onto the floor - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:Halloween-357MagPoola.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"Michael!!! Stop!!!!"'']]

==Beretta 92FS==
* Two Haddonfield Sheriff Deputies use [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS Pistols]] while searching the house.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Halloween-Beretta92FSa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Haddonfield Sheriff Deputies search the darkened house with Beretta 92FS pistols drawn - 9mm]]
[[Image:Halloween-Beretta92FS 02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In early shots the trigger guards looked rounded like the SB model, however, in viewing the scene further, these are just tricks of shadow and camera angle.]]
[[Image:Halloween-Beretta92FS-05a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Pistols are 92FS models, though some of the shots may be replica pistols.]]
[[Image:Halloween-CopFreezeA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|In an annoying sequence, a deputy yells "Freeze!" after witnessing Michael Myers gut his partner and manages to put just one round into Michael Myer's shoulder before Michael kills him with a knife. In reality, if a cop saw a knife wielding killer gut a fellow police officer, he would empty the entire magazine into the perp without hesitation.]]

==Remington 1100 Shotgun==
* Seen in the gun cabinet of Sheriff Lee Brackett's ([[Brad Dourif]]) gun cabinet in his office are two long guns, one of which is a Remington 1100 with Black Synthetic Furniture - 12 gauge.
[[Image:Remington1100TacticalSlugGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington Model 1100 Tactical Shotgun - 12 gauge. This version has a slug barrel and rifle sights.]]
[[Image:Halloween-TwoShotgunsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In Sheriff Lee Brackett's ([[Brad Dourif]]) gun cabinet are two shotguns, one a Remington 1100 with Synthetic Furniture (12 gauge) and an unknown double barreled shotgun.]]

==Unknown Double Barreled Shotgun==
* Also seen in the same gun cabinet is a double barreled shotgun (Side by side) of unknown make or model.
[[Image:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|thumb|none|400px|1960s Era Commercial Stevens hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge. This model is shown as an example of type and not depicted as the exact model shown in the film.]]

==Remington Model 11 shotgun==
* These Vintage semi-auto shotguns are seen in a rack in the Gun store. Note these could be A-5 or the Savage copies.
[[Image:Halloween-GunStore01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A variety of pump, auto loader shotguns and hunting rifles are seen in the gun racks. Behind the proprietor are Remington Model 11 Shotguns. Also on the wall appear to be Ruger 10/22 rifles, Marlin Camp Carbines (9mm), Winchester Model 70s, Remington 870 Shotguns, various double barreled shotguns (Side by Side and O/U) and various unidentifiable bolt action hunting rifles.]]
[[Image:Halloween-S&W-22LRa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px| Model 11, it's parent A-5 and possibly some Savage or Franchi clones seen on the right of the screen, noted by the signature square backed receiver.]]

==Browning Auto 5 shotgun==
* These Vintage semi-auto shotguns are seen in a rack in the Gun store. The Browning can often be distinguished from the Model 11 by the stock, the pistol grip is usually cut off flat on the M11, while it is usually rounded on the A-5. It should be noted that the Model 11 is a copy of the A-5 and that the shotgun on the right is not a browning A-5 or clone. This also marks the occasion where the most A-5 and variant's have been seen on screen.
[[Image:Halloween-GunStore02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Browning Auto 5 shotguns and a Remington Model 11 Shotgun are visible on the wall behind the proprietor of the store - 12 gauge.]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Horror]]

Talk:The Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day

2010-04-11T15:05:49Z

RedJedRevolver:

unknown guns:

The litlle .22 looks like a jennings j-22 and the revolver looks like it may be a ruger redhawk, anyone got a close up of the hammer, that gives away rugers.

-k9870

The little pearl-handled semi-auto is a Baby Browning .25acp. If no one else wants to fix that, I'll do it later this evening. Got to head out shortly. krispic 10:06 4/10/10

They said in the movie that it was a .22 caliber. Spades of Columbia 4/10/10

You believe what you hear in movies? What they "say in the movies" very seldom bears any resemblance to real life. The firearm used in that scene was a Baby Browning 6.35mm (.25acp). If what you hear in movies is always true, I have *got* to get me one of those Sigourney Weaver pulse rifles! lol krispic 17:24 4/10/10 (sorry for being snide. was meant as humor krispic)

:That is definitely a Baby Browning, you can see a slide release behind the trigger in the picture, the BB has that as well as the somewhat boxy frame. However, what's pictured as the IMFDB gun is an FN 1905. Anyone have a free picture to reflect that? [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:Is it really? I googled Baby Browning and got that image, so I thought it was accurate. I'll look for another lol. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
The one that's up now is a correct Baby Browning. Maroon leather background. Great pic, btw. Nice find. A 1905 has a grip safety and a non-full length slide/dust cover. A lot of folks these days discount the old .25acp as being next to garbage, but for a lot of folks for a lot of years, those guns were seen as serious weapons. krispic 09:07 4/11/10
:Thanks Krispic, and after some hunting I discovered the weapon that is used in the movie was a Baby Browning Lightweight, chrome plated slide and aluminum frame, with a Bronze or Gold plated trigger. Here's a picture, but I'm not sure if it's free or not, but it's a good pic. Follow the link because I'm not uploading a free image. [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 15:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC) http://astorarms.ca/images/Prohibited%20Handguns/Browning%20Baby%20Lightweight,%20DSC_4293.jpg

For those who haven't seen it yet, the movie's recently-released trailer (which is the source of our page's info) is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2-PYxgL50

Looks like it'll follow completely in the vein of its predecessor - totally mindless and full of self-inflated importance, but impossible not to enjoy. Only thing that bothers me is that Sean Patrick Flannery has really not aged too well - dude's got an obvious double-chin in the trailer. That, and the fact that I would have preferred to see them using FN Five-Sevens instead of Desert Eagles. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Just watched the trailer. Looks great!!!

It does look awesome. Norman Reedus on the other hand doesn't look like he has aged more than a year or too. I hope it will be better than the first, but it won't be the same with out Willem Dafoe -[[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]]

I'm a BIG fan of the original movie (plus I'm a Roman Catholic, have Irish heritage, and was born a fraternal twin, but my twin died during childbirth). We don't only get Sean, Norman, and Billy back, but we get Clifton Collins Jr. as thier dumbass sidekick and Julie Benz as the FBI agent (who looks like an attractive female version of Willem Dafoe). Personally, I think the brothers should use M1911A1 pistols with engraved finishes and white grips that have the Celtic Cross on it. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

=I agree. Having them upgrade from Beretta's to M1911's is like chucking a .25 Saturday Night Special for a Les Baer custom-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

==Don't underestimate what a 9mm can do. Especially the beretta 92FS. That gun is a refined killer as is the M1911 series. A man's just as dead with a 9mm slug in his brain as three .45 slugs in his chest. I think they should use .455 WEBLEYS! Those guns are fuckin' BEAUTIFUL! Engrave THEM grips! And desert eagles? please. what are they trying to prove? Don't get me wrong. I got irish heritage too and am AMPED to see this movie...but seriously...desert eagles? But yes. engraved finish M1911A1s would kick an intense amount of ass. Especially if they were mag-na-ported like in Face/off.

:I would rather shoot someone once in the chest with a .45 than the 3-5 rounds of 9x19mm it would take. Webleys would be ridiculous though, as I have never even seen any .455 ammo for sale except for ONCE, and it was $80 for 20 rounds-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The local Cabelas sells 455 Webley in boxes of twenty cartridges made by Hornady for about $40.00. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

:::C'mon man. don't be that way. The .45 would stop a man in his tracks in under three shots though. Everybodys got a gun thats THEIR GUN. Be it a Beretta 92fs or an m1911. The brothers seems pretty effective with them. why should they change? Some men can dot an eye with either gun. proficiency can be much more of a decider in combat than stopping power. A professional with a beretta is much more dangerous than an untrained person with a M1911, and vice versa. I have known those that swear by either gun. It just annoys me that it has become a ritual to scorn the 9X19mm round due to it's supposed lack of lethality. And I doubt you have been shot with either round. If you have I apologize. I suggested Webleys because they are very nice looking guns in my opinion. Note how I said LOOKING. Besides they are using desert eagles with compensators so money seems to be no object to them on their quest for justice, besides they could just reload their empties like everyone else with a webley.
::Please my friend, sign your posts by pressing the sign button on the edit menu.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Let me put it this way: I know people who have had to shoot people with 9mm's in self defense. They all told me it took around 3 rounds to make the attacker stop. Also, a Beretta Cougar makes way more sense to me than a 92 due to the fact that the Cougar actually feels like a gun, unlike the Beretta 92 which feels like a toy-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Who gives a flying fuck if a gun feels like a toy? I actually would like a gun that felt like a toy. That way it wouldn't be heavy. Also, three bullets isn't much. I still prefer .45 ACP, though.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::yeah sorry folks. guess i sorta overreacted 'bout that one. I have found in my experience using a Beretta 92G vertec and a caspian arms M1911 that guns in either caliber can be fine guns. I would be fine using either of the guns I just mentioned in a firefight, or both preferebly. I don't mean like john wooing the guns, I mean like having a spare rod. hell, i'd use a browning HP, or a tokarev, or S&W Model 10, or a 1911, or a H&k U.S.P. .45, or even (god forbid) a glock. A gun's a gun and a kill's a kill. whatever you can kill with, use it. Jeff Cooper swore by his 1911s, just as my father swears by his 586. I knew a man who was mocked for carrying a Star model B when was in the armed forces, but easily shot a man dead in self-defense. .45 = stopping power. 9mm =low recoil. just because a man uses a beretta doesnt mean he likes to spray and pray, maybe he just doesn't like to take the chance he'll be out when he doesnt want to be, just like a man who carries an m1911 isnt necesarily a guy who just wants what's biggest, maybe he just knows what it can do. a man likes what he likes. And I like sammiches and berettas. And webleys. besides they could just use webleys modified to take .45 acp that they can download to usable pressures. Yes folks. I just went back to square one there....still. webley = sexy. well...im sure this argument will go on for eternity....soo continue. And thanks for tellin me about the signature thing. --[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 19:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

:There are Webley's in the movie, but they aren't used that much-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

If you think a Beretta feels like a toy, you are either enormously obese or you have never shot/held one.--[[User:ColonelTomb|ColonelTomb]] 23:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

:I have held quite few and I am not obese (I'm a big guy, but not enormous), but I do have massive hands, which explains why I think it feels like a toy and why I prefer heavier weapons. For example, I do not think a Ruger Redhawk w/ a scope is that heavy while everyone else I know who have shot it bitch about how heavy it is-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey S&Wshooter, didn't mean to come off as an asshole on that last comment. I had a bad day and was kind of angry.--[[User:ColonelTomb|ColonelTomb]] 00:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

To be fair both the 9mm and 45 ACP are probably the best rounds when using a suppressor. The .45 is naturally a subsonic round while the 147 grain 9mm round lends itself well to use in a suppressed firearm. As for anecdotal evidence on number of rounds there are a good number of stories where a 9mm was as effective as a .45 and there are stories where it took more than one round of .45 to stop an attacker. I happen to like the Beretta 92FS as a firearm and I have never had it jam except after a 1000 round torture test and had a 1911 do the same. Either way with a suppressed Beretta or 1911 the McManus brothers would have had a reliable pistol with which a suppressor would work admirably and would be quite effective. [[Special:Contributions/98.175.58.228|98.175.58.228]] 04:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

There are two things I would like to point out. First of all, Beretta 92s and their variants are known for being heavier guns, since all of them up until 2003 were completely metal, as opposed to the polymer that is now commonly used in many parts of other guns. Even after '03, they were still most metal, and therefore are still quite heavy, compared to most other commercial guns. The second point I wanted to make is mainly directed at the power of the 9x19mm round, versus the power of the .45 ACP round. Sure, the .45 has plenty of stopping power, but the 9mm isn't a weak round. It may take 3-5 rounds to the chest occasionally, but more important then the stopping power of a bullet is where it hits. The .45 has been recorded to take as many as five hits to the chest to kill, while there are multiple incidents of the nine-mil killing in one shot straight through the heart. Sure, stopping power is important, but becomes fairly irrelevant if you're not trying to keep the target alive, and if you actually know how to aim. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 06:56, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== I recently ==

watched the trailer and there's a scene where Billy Connely and a thug face off and the thug is holding a revolver (Ruger Blackhawk maybe?)-[[User:Shooter|Shooter]]

I think they were webley's

Just saw the movie, and those are definitely Webleys. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 08:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Why is the Glock 30 or I guess possibly the 26/27 not on the gun page? II Duke has one on his left hand shoulder when he has his six guns strapped to him.

Not to mention the Para Nite Tac (according to movie armorer), S&W 686 & 629.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:15, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

== LDA? ==
I honestly don't think Romeo is using LDAs as evident by the full triggers. They still may be Para-Ordnance, and I really like the Italian flag grips though. -[[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]]

:One of the armorers who worked on the movie told me that they were LDAs. I wouldn't have written it otherwise. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:45, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

:Wasn't he flag on the grips the Mexican flag, not the Italian one?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

1. Not trying to be a prick here, but armorers can be wrong all the time. Look at Hitman, or in the 1st Boondock Saints movie where the 92FS's transforms to PT92's. Either way I am by no means an expert, if he's a professional movie armorer than who am I to contradict him.

::'''''"but armorers can be wrong all the time"'''''? hahahaha. Yes, they can be wrong ALL the time, but if they were, they wouldn't get much work now, would they? LOL [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:22, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

2. I liked the grips eitherway. -[[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]]

Just as a quick note to anyone looking, these dont look like LDAs, they have the standard 1911 style SA skeleton trigger, I'm not sure if that trigger can be used in a double action pistol. Therefore My vote is that these are Para p-18s, especially since it's the same trigger used on the P-18s -Deadlysyn

[[Image:BDS2-9.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Romeo ([[Clifton Collins, Jr.]]) racks the slide of his custom 45 - note that the words "El Jefe" are engraved in the slide - .45 acp]]

Yeah they have SA triggers. Maybe they were converted to SA? Is that possible? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:53, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe the armorer meant Agent Bloom's weapon was the LDA. Just watched special features and that's what I heard him say. - JanG

[http://www.para-usa.com/new/images/product_large/PCX745Sphoto_big.jpg]
Closest Para I could find, based on serration angle and spacing, and the sights. Only problem, the LTC is a commander length and the ones Romeo uses look like government length. Another possibility is the PXT or the gun rights special edition. Kinda cool to use a gun rights pistol in a movie where fire fights are the appeal. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 08:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

::Did the armorer (whichever one is interviewed for the special features) mention if Romeo's guns were P14s or LDAs? Al Vrkljan, who was ''one'' of the armorers who worked on the movie, specifically told me LDA, but he may have mis-remembered. I'm guessing that Charles Taylor (the other of the two armorers, and Al's boss) is the guy they interviewed for the special features, and he might have said something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

According to Taylor, Romeo's pistols are custom made for the character. They kinda looked like Para PXTs to me, but without the front serrations like the special series. Also, when the armorer showed Agent Bloom's handgun 6.45 can be seen clearly on the side. Here's one that looks like it...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/5Wire/Firearms/645R.jpg
--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:26, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

:Do they ever mention on the DVD special features the guns that Noah Macmanus uses in the finale? I can't tell what model that subcompact Para is (could be a P-10 but I'm not sure; confirmation would help.)

Would whoever is identifying Romeo's pistols please make note: '''The pistols in the movie CLEARLY do not have flared grip frames meaning they CANNOT be double stack pistols.''' The guns are neither double action or high capacity.[[User:Captain America]]

:Maybe its this gun: http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=62 -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Noah's compact 1911 is a Para Nite Tac. As for Romeo's pistols, I had mentioned they looked like PXT Special series but with different fron sights. Maybe they're made up of several different parts put together. In any case, I agree with Captain... single stack, single action 1911s. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 17:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:PANiteTac.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
As you can see, the Para Nite Tac is a full sized pistol so that can't be the Para that Noah uses. Do you mean a Nite ''Hawg''?-[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 23:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== FN FAL ==
I just saw the movie myself and am pretty sure those were not FN Fals in the armourer's cage but some type of assault shotgun with a side folding stock. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 13:31, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:::FAL with no magazine.

== Crew Cut ==

The hitman adversary is listed as using H&K USPs, but according to the armorer in special features, he uses Sig P226s. Also in the bar shootout where he takes the bartender hostage, you can clearly see that is is a Sig. - Jan

:Did the armorer say whether Crew Cut used the P226R in the church scene, or only the bar shootout, or both? He definitely uses the P226R in the bar, but I wasn't able to tell what the suppressed pistols were. I'm getting the Blu Ray of this movie pretty soon (I ordered it from Amazon), so hopefully I'll be able to tell once I get it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

They looked like 226s in the church scene, especially when crew cut laid down next to the priest.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Watched special features again and according to the movie armorer (Charles Taylor) crew cut uses 2 sig 226s.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

== Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket ==

Comparing the side view of both the Colt and the gun in the movie, it doesn't look quite like a 1908. Look for closely at the trigger [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
:Perhaps you are right. Any thoughts on what it might be, though? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Jennings J-22? it looks like one, and was specifically referred to as a .22.

:Just because it was referred to as a .22 doesn't mean they actually used a .22. The script, for example, said the Desert Eagles were supposed to be .50 AE models, but the prop weapons used in the movie were chambered in .357 Magnum. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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RedJedRevolver:

unknown guns:

The litlle .22 looks like a jennings j-22 and the revolver looks like it may be a ruger redhawk, anyone got a close up of the hammer, that gives away rugers.

-k9870

The little pearl-handled semi-auto is a Baby Browning .25acp. If no one else wants to fix that, I'll do it later this evening. Got to head out shortly. krispic 10:06 4/10/10

They said in the movie that it was a .22 caliber. Spades of Columbia 4/10/10

You believe what you hear in movies? What they "say in the movies" very seldom bears any resemblance to real life. The firearm used in that scene was a Baby Browning 6.35mm (.25acp). If what you hear in movies is always true, I have *got* to get me one of those Sigourney Weaver pulse rifles! lol krispic 17:24 4/10/10 (sorry for being snide. was meant as humor krispic)

:That is definitely a Baby Browning, you can see a slide release behind the trigger in the picture, the BB has that as well as the somewhat boxy frame. However, what's pictured as the IMFDB gun is an FN 1905. Anyone have a free picture to reflect that? [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:Is it really? I googled Baby Browning and got that image, so I thought it was accurate. I'll look for another lol. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
The one that's up now is a correct Baby Browning. Maroon leather background. Great pic, btw. Nice find. A 1905 has a grip safety and a non-full length slide/dust cover. A lot of folks these days discount the old .25acp as being next to garbage, but for a lot of folks for a lot of years, those guns were seen as serious weapons. krispic 09:07 4/11/10
:Thanks Krispic, and after some hunting I discovered the weapon that is used in the movie was a Baby Browning Lightweight, chrome plated slide and aluminum frame, with a Bronze or Gold plated trigger. Here's a picture, but I'm not sure if it's free or not, but it's a good pic. [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 15:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC) [[Image:http://astorarms.ca/images/Prohibited%20Handguns/Browning%20Baby%20Lightweight,%20DSC_4293.jpg]]

For those who haven't seen it yet, the movie's recently-released trailer (which is the source of our page's info) is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2-PYxgL50

Looks like it'll follow completely in the vein of its predecessor - totally mindless and full of self-inflated importance, but impossible not to enjoy. Only thing that bothers me is that Sean Patrick Flannery has really not aged too well - dude's got an obvious double-chin in the trailer. That, and the fact that I would have preferred to see them using FN Five-Sevens instead of Desert Eagles. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Just watched the trailer. Looks great!!!

It does look awesome. Norman Reedus on the other hand doesn't look like he has aged more than a year or too. I hope it will be better than the first, but it won't be the same with out Willem Dafoe -[[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]]

I'm a BIG fan of the original movie (plus I'm a Roman Catholic, have Irish heritage, and was born a fraternal twin, but my twin died during childbirth). We don't only get Sean, Norman, and Billy back, but we get Clifton Collins Jr. as thier dumbass sidekick and Julie Benz as the FBI agent (who looks like an attractive female version of Willem Dafoe). Personally, I think the brothers should use M1911A1 pistols with engraved finishes and white grips that have the Celtic Cross on it. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

=I agree. Having them upgrade from Beretta's to M1911's is like chucking a .25 Saturday Night Special for a Les Baer custom-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

==Don't underestimate what a 9mm can do. Especially the beretta 92FS. That gun is a refined killer as is the M1911 series. A man's just as dead with a 9mm slug in his brain as three .45 slugs in his chest. I think they should use .455 WEBLEYS! Those guns are fuckin' BEAUTIFUL! Engrave THEM grips! And desert eagles? please. what are they trying to prove? Don't get me wrong. I got irish heritage too and am AMPED to see this movie...but seriously...desert eagles? But yes. engraved finish M1911A1s would kick an intense amount of ass. Especially if they were mag-na-ported like in Face/off.

:I would rather shoot someone once in the chest with a .45 than the 3-5 rounds of 9x19mm it would take. Webleys would be ridiculous though, as I have never even seen any .455 ammo for sale except for ONCE, and it was $80 for 20 rounds-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The local Cabelas sells 455 Webley in boxes of twenty cartridges made by Hornady for about $40.00. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

:::C'mon man. don't be that way. The .45 would stop a man in his tracks in under three shots though. Everybodys got a gun thats THEIR GUN. Be it a Beretta 92fs or an m1911. The brothers seems pretty effective with them. why should they change? Some men can dot an eye with either gun. proficiency can be much more of a decider in combat than stopping power. A professional with a beretta is much more dangerous than an untrained person with a M1911, and vice versa. I have known those that swear by either gun. It just annoys me that it has become a ritual to scorn the 9X19mm round due to it's supposed lack of lethality. And I doubt you have been shot with either round. If you have I apologize. I suggested Webleys because they are very nice looking guns in my opinion. Note how I said LOOKING. Besides they are using desert eagles with compensators so money seems to be no object to them on their quest for justice, besides they could just reload their empties like everyone else with a webley.
::Please my friend, sign your posts by pressing the sign button on the edit menu.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Let me put it this way: I know people who have had to shoot people with 9mm's in self defense. They all told me it took around 3 rounds to make the attacker stop. Also, a Beretta Cougar makes way more sense to me than a 92 due to the fact that the Cougar actually feels like a gun, unlike the Beretta 92 which feels like a toy-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Who gives a flying fuck if a gun feels like a toy? I actually would like a gun that felt like a toy. That way it wouldn't be heavy. Also, three bullets isn't much. I still prefer .45 ACP, though.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::yeah sorry folks. guess i sorta overreacted 'bout that one. I have found in my experience using a Beretta 92G vertec and a caspian arms M1911 that guns in either caliber can be fine guns. I would be fine using either of the guns I just mentioned in a firefight, or both preferebly. I don't mean like john wooing the guns, I mean like having a spare rod. hell, i'd use a browning HP, or a tokarev, or S&W Model 10, or a 1911, or a H&k U.S.P. .45, or even (god forbid) a glock. A gun's a gun and a kill's a kill. whatever you can kill with, use it. Jeff Cooper swore by his 1911s, just as my father swears by his 586. I knew a man who was mocked for carrying a Star model B when was in the armed forces, but easily shot a man dead in self-defense. .45 = stopping power. 9mm =low recoil. just because a man uses a beretta doesnt mean he likes to spray and pray, maybe he just doesn't like to take the chance he'll be out when he doesnt want to be, just like a man who carries an m1911 isnt necesarily a guy who just wants what's biggest, maybe he just knows what it can do. a man likes what he likes. And I like sammiches and berettas. And webleys. besides they could just use webleys modified to take .45 acp that they can download to usable pressures. Yes folks. I just went back to square one there....still. webley = sexy. well...im sure this argument will go on for eternity....soo continue. And thanks for tellin me about the signature thing. --[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 19:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

:There are Webley's in the movie, but they aren't used that much-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

If you think a Beretta feels like a toy, you are either enormously obese or you have never shot/held one.--[[User:ColonelTomb|ColonelTomb]] 23:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

:I have held quite few and I am not obese (I'm a big guy, but not enormous), but I do have massive hands, which explains why I think it feels like a toy and why I prefer heavier weapons. For example, I do not think a Ruger Redhawk w/ a scope is that heavy while everyone else I know who have shot it bitch about how heavy it is-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey S&Wshooter, didn't mean to come off as an asshole on that last comment. I had a bad day and was kind of angry.--[[User:ColonelTomb|ColonelTomb]] 00:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

To be fair both the 9mm and 45 ACP are probably the best rounds when using a suppressor. The .45 is naturally a subsonic round while the 147 grain 9mm round lends itself well to use in a suppressed firearm. As for anecdotal evidence on number of rounds there are a good number of stories where a 9mm was as effective as a .45 and there are stories where it took more than one round of .45 to stop an attacker. I happen to like the Beretta 92FS as a firearm and I have never had it jam except after a 1000 round torture test and had a 1911 do the same. Either way with a suppressed Beretta or 1911 the McManus brothers would have had a reliable pistol with which a suppressor would work admirably and would be quite effective. [[Special:Contributions/98.175.58.228|98.175.58.228]] 04:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

There are two things I would like to point out. First of all, Beretta 92s and their variants are known for being heavier guns, since all of them up until 2003 were completely metal, as opposed to the polymer that is now commonly used in many parts of other guns. Even after '03, they were still most metal, and therefore are still quite heavy, compared to most other commercial guns. The second point I wanted to make is mainly directed at the power of the 9x19mm round, versus the power of the .45 ACP round. Sure, the .45 has plenty of stopping power, but the 9mm isn't a weak round. It may take 3-5 rounds to the chest occasionally, but more important then the stopping power of a bullet is where it hits. The .45 has been recorded to take as many as five hits to the chest to kill, while there are multiple incidents of the nine-mil killing in one shot straight through the heart. Sure, stopping power is important, but becomes fairly irrelevant if you're not trying to keep the target alive, and if you actually know how to aim. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 06:56, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== I recently ==

watched the trailer and there's a scene where Billy Connely and a thug face off and the thug is holding a revolver (Ruger Blackhawk maybe?)-[[User:Shooter|Shooter]]

I think they were webley's

Just saw the movie, and those are definitely Webleys. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 08:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Why is the Glock 30 or I guess possibly the 26/27 not on the gun page? II Duke has one on his left hand shoulder when he has his six guns strapped to him.

Not to mention the Para Nite Tac (according to movie armorer), S&W 686 & 629.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:15, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

== LDA? ==
I honestly don't think Romeo is using LDAs as evident by the full triggers. They still may be Para-Ordnance, and I really like the Italian flag grips though. -[[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]]

:One of the armorers who worked on the movie told me that they were LDAs. I wouldn't have written it otherwise. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:45, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

:Wasn't he flag on the grips the Mexican flag, not the Italian one?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

1. Not trying to be a prick here, but armorers can be wrong all the time. Look at Hitman, or in the 1st Boondock Saints movie where the 92FS's transforms to PT92's. Either way I am by no means an expert, if he's a professional movie armorer than who am I to contradict him.

::'''''"but armorers can be wrong all the time"'''''? hahahaha. Yes, they can be wrong ALL the time, but if they were, they wouldn't get much work now, would they? LOL [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:22, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

2. I liked the grips eitherway. -[[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]]

Just as a quick note to anyone looking, these dont look like LDAs, they have the standard 1911 style SA skeleton trigger, I'm not sure if that trigger can be used in a double action pistol. Therefore My vote is that these are Para p-18s, especially since it's the same trigger used on the P-18s -Deadlysyn

[[Image:BDS2-9.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Romeo ([[Clifton Collins, Jr.]]) racks the slide of his custom 45 - note that the words "El Jefe" are engraved in the slide - .45 acp]]

Yeah they have SA triggers. Maybe they were converted to SA? Is that possible? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:53, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe the armorer meant Agent Bloom's weapon was the LDA. Just watched special features and that's what I heard him say. - JanG

[http://www.para-usa.com/new/images/product_large/PCX745Sphoto_big.jpg]
Closest Para I could find, based on serration angle and spacing, and the sights. Only problem, the LTC is a commander length and the ones Romeo uses look like government length. Another possibility is the PXT or the gun rights special edition. Kinda cool to use a gun rights pistol in a movie where fire fights are the appeal. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 08:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

::Did the armorer (whichever one is interviewed for the special features) mention if Romeo's guns were P14s or LDAs? Al Vrkljan, who was ''one'' of the armorers who worked on the movie, specifically told me LDA, but he may have mis-remembered. I'm guessing that Charles Taylor (the other of the two armorers, and Al's boss) is the guy they interviewed for the special features, and he might have said something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

According to Taylor, Romeo's pistols are custom made for the character. They kinda looked like Para PXTs to me, but without the front serrations like the special series. Also, when the armorer showed Agent Bloom's handgun 6.45 can be seen clearly on the side. Here's one that looks like it...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/5Wire/Firearms/645R.jpg
--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:26, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

:Do they ever mention on the DVD special features the guns that Noah Macmanus uses in the finale? I can't tell what model that subcompact Para is (could be a P-10 but I'm not sure; confirmation would help.)

Would whoever is identifying Romeo's pistols please make note: '''The pistols in the movie CLEARLY do not have flared grip frames meaning they CANNOT be double stack pistols.''' The guns are neither double action or high capacity.[[User:Captain America]]

:Maybe its this gun: http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=62 -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Noah's compact 1911 is a Para Nite Tac. As for Romeo's pistols, I had mentioned they looked like PXT Special series but with different fron sights. Maybe they're made up of several different parts put together. In any case, I agree with Captain... single stack, single action 1911s. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 17:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:PANiteTac.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
As you can see, the Para Nite Tac is a full sized pistol so that can't be the Para that Noah uses. Do you mean a Nite ''Hawg''?-[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 23:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== FN FAL ==
I just saw the movie myself and am pretty sure those were not FN Fals in the armourer's cage but some type of assault shotgun with a side folding stock. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 13:31, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:::FAL with no magazine.

== Crew Cut ==

The hitman adversary is listed as using H&K USPs, but according to the armorer in special features, he uses Sig P226s. Also in the bar shootout where he takes the bartender hostage, you can clearly see that is is a Sig. - Jan

:Did the armorer say whether Crew Cut used the P226R in the church scene, or only the bar shootout, or both? He definitely uses the P226R in the bar, but I wasn't able to tell what the suppressed pistols were. I'm getting the Blu Ray of this movie pretty soon (I ordered it from Amazon), so hopefully I'll be able to tell once I get it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

They looked like 226s in the church scene, especially when crew cut laid down next to the priest.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Watched special features again and according to the movie armorer (Charles Taylor) crew cut uses 2 sig 226s.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

== Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket ==

Comparing the side view of both the Colt and the gun in the movie, it doesn't look quite like a 1908. Look for closely at the trigger [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
:Perhaps you are right. Any thoughts on what it might be, though? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Jennings J-22? it looks like one, and was specifically referred to as a .22.

:Just because it was referred to as a .22 doesn't mean they actually used a .22. The script, for example, said the Desert Eagles were supposed to be .50 AE models, but the prop weapons used in the movie were chambered in .357 Magnum. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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RedJedRevolver:

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The litlle .22 looks like a jennings j-22 and the revolver looks like it may be a ruger redhawk, anyone got a close up of the hammer, that gives away rugers.

-k9870

The little pearl-handled semi-auto is a Baby Browning .25acp. If no one else wants to fix that, I'll do it later this evening. Got to head out shortly. krispic 10:06 4/10/10

They said in the movie that it was a .22 caliber. Spades of Columbia 4/10/10

You believe what you hear in movies? What they "say in the movies" very seldom bears any resemblance to real life. The firearm used in that scene was a Baby Browning 6.35mm (.25acp). If what you hear in movies is always true, I have *got* to get me one of those Sigourney Weaver pulse rifles! lol krispic 17:24 4/10/10

=That is definitely a Baby Browning, you can see a slide release behind the trigger in the picture, the BB has that as well as the somewhat boxy frame. However, what's pictured as the IMFDB gun is an FN 1905. Anyone have a free picture to reflect that? [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

For those who haven't seen it yet, the movie's recently-released trailer (which is the source of our page's info) is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2-PYxgL50

Looks like it'll follow completely in the vein of its predecessor - totally mindless and full of self-inflated importance, but impossible not to enjoy. Only thing that bothers me is that Sean Patrick Flannery has really not aged too well - dude's got an obvious double-chin in the trailer. That, and the fact that I would have preferred to see them using FN Five-Sevens instead of Desert Eagles. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Just watched the trailer. Looks great!!!

It does look awesome. Norman Reedus on the other hand doesn't look like he has aged more than a year or too. I hope it will be better than the first, but it won't be the same with out Willem Dafoe -[[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]]

I'm a BIG fan of the original movie (plus I'm a Roman Catholic, have Irish heritage, and was born a fraternal twin, but my twin died during childbirth). We don't only get Sean, Norman, and Billy back, but we get Clifton Collins Jr. as thier dumbass sidekick and Julie Benz as the FBI agent (who looks like an attractive female version of Willem Dafoe). Personally, I think the brothers should use M1911A1 pistols with engraved finishes and white grips that have the Celtic Cross on it. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

=I agree. Having them upgrade from Beretta's to M1911's is like chucking a .25 Saturday Night Special for a Les Baer custom-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

==Don't underestimate what a 9mm can do. Especially the beretta 92FS. That gun is a refined killer as is the M1911 series. A man's just as dead with a 9mm slug in his brain as three .45 slugs in his chest. I think they should use .455 WEBLEYS! Those guns are fuckin' BEAUTIFUL! Engrave THEM grips! And desert eagles? please. what are they trying to prove? Don't get me wrong. I got irish heritage too and am AMPED to see this movie...but seriously...desert eagles? But yes. engraved finish M1911A1s would kick an intense amount of ass. Especially if they were mag-na-ported like in Face/off.

:I would rather shoot someone once in the chest with a .45 than the 3-5 rounds of 9x19mm it would take. Webleys would be ridiculous though, as I have never even seen any .455 ammo for sale except for ONCE, and it was $80 for 20 rounds-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The local Cabelas sells 455 Webley in boxes of twenty cartridges made by Hornady for about $40.00. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

:::C'mon man. don't be that way. The .45 would stop a man in his tracks in under three shots though. Everybodys got a gun thats THEIR GUN. Be it a Beretta 92fs or an m1911. The brothers seems pretty effective with them. why should they change? Some men can dot an eye with either gun. proficiency can be much more of a decider in combat than stopping power. A professional with a beretta is much more dangerous than an untrained person with a M1911, and vice versa. I have known those that swear by either gun. It just annoys me that it has become a ritual to scorn the 9X19mm round due to it's supposed lack of lethality. And I doubt you have been shot with either round. If you have I apologize. I suggested Webleys because they are very nice looking guns in my opinion. Note how I said LOOKING. Besides they are using desert eagles with compensators so money seems to be no object to them on their quest for justice, besides they could just reload their empties like everyone else with a webley.
::Please my friend, sign your posts by pressing the sign button on the edit menu.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Let me put it this way: I know people who have had to shoot people with 9mm's in self defense. They all told me it took around 3 rounds to make the attacker stop. Also, a Beretta Cougar makes way more sense to me than a 92 due to the fact that the Cougar actually feels like a gun, unlike the Beretta 92 which feels like a toy-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Who gives a flying fuck if a gun feels like a toy? I actually would like a gun that felt like a toy. That way it wouldn't be heavy. Also, three bullets isn't much. I still prefer .45 ACP, though.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::yeah sorry folks. guess i sorta overreacted 'bout that one. I have found in my experience using a Beretta 92G vertec and a caspian arms M1911 that guns in either caliber can be fine guns. I would be fine using either of the guns I just mentioned in a firefight, or both preferebly. I don't mean like john wooing the guns, I mean like having a spare rod. hell, i'd use a browning HP, or a tokarev, or S&W Model 10, or a 1911, or a H&k U.S.P. .45, or even (god forbid) a glock. A gun's a gun and a kill's a kill. whatever you can kill with, use it. Jeff Cooper swore by his 1911s, just as my father swears by his 586. I knew a man who was mocked for carrying a Star model B when was in the armed forces, but easily shot a man dead in self-defense. .45 = stopping power. 9mm =low recoil. just because a man uses a beretta doesnt mean he likes to spray and pray, maybe he just doesn't like to take the chance he'll be out when he doesnt want to be, just like a man who carries an m1911 isnt necesarily a guy who just wants what's biggest, maybe he just knows what it can do. a man likes what he likes. And I like sammiches and berettas. And webleys. besides they could just use webleys modified to take .45 acp that they can download to usable pressures. Yes folks. I just went back to square one there....still. webley = sexy. well...im sure this argument will go on for eternity....soo continue. And thanks for tellin me about the signature thing. --[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 19:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

:There are Webley's in the movie, but they aren't used that much-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

If you think a Beretta feels like a toy, you are either enormously obese or you have never shot/held one.--[[User:ColonelTomb|ColonelTomb]] 23:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

:I have held quite few and I am not obese (I'm a big guy, but not enormous), but I do have massive hands, which explains why I think it feels like a toy and why I prefer heavier weapons. For example, I do not think a Ruger Redhawk w/ a scope is that heavy while everyone else I know who have shot it bitch about how heavy it is-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey S&Wshooter, didn't mean to come off as an asshole on that last comment. I had a bad day and was kind of angry.--[[User:ColonelTomb|ColonelTomb]] 00:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

To be fair both the 9mm and 45 ACP are probably the best rounds when using a suppressor. The .45 is naturally a subsonic round while the 147 grain 9mm round lends itself well to use in a suppressed firearm. As for anecdotal evidence on number of rounds there are a good number of stories where a 9mm was as effective as a .45 and there are stories where it took more than one round of .45 to stop an attacker. I happen to like the Beretta 92FS as a firearm and I have never had it jam except after a 1000 round torture test and had a 1911 do the same. Either way with a suppressed Beretta or 1911 the McManus brothers would have had a reliable pistol with which a suppressor would work admirably and would be quite effective. [[Special:Contributions/98.175.58.228|98.175.58.228]] 04:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

There are two things I would like to point out. First of all, Beretta 92s and their variants are known for being heavier guns, since all of them up until 2003 were completely metal, as opposed to the polymer that is now commonly used in many parts of other guns. Even after '03, they were still most metal, and therefore are still quite heavy, compared to most other commercial guns. The second point I wanted to make is mainly directed at the power of the 9x19mm round, versus the power of the .45 ACP round. Sure, the .45 has plenty of stopping power, but the 9mm isn't a weak round. It may take 3-5 rounds to the chest occasionally, but more important then the stopping power of a bullet is where it hits. The .45 has been recorded to take as many as five hits to the chest to kill, while there are multiple incidents of the nine-mil killing in one shot straight through the heart. Sure, stopping power is important, but becomes fairly irrelevant if you're not trying to keep the target alive, and if you actually know how to aim. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 06:56, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== I recently ==

watched the trailer and there's a scene where Billy Connely and a thug face off and the thug is holding a revolver (Ruger Blackhawk maybe?)-[[User:Shooter|Shooter]]

I think they were webley's

Just saw the movie, and those are definitely Webleys. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 08:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Why is the Glock 30 or I guess possibly the 26/27 not on the gun page? II Duke has one on his left hand shoulder when he has his six guns strapped to him.

Not to mention the Para Nite Tac (according to movie armorer), S&W 686 & 629.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:15, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

== LDA? ==
I honestly don't think Romeo is using LDAs as evident by the full triggers. They still may be Para-Ordnance, and I really like the Italian flag grips though. -[[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]]

:One of the armorers who worked on the movie told me that they were LDAs. I wouldn't have written it otherwise. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:45, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

:Wasn't he flag on the grips the Mexican flag, not the Italian one?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 19:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

1. Not trying to be a prick here, but armorers can be wrong all the time. Look at Hitman, or in the 1st Boondock Saints movie where the 92FS's transforms to PT92's. Either way I am by no means an expert, if he's a professional movie armorer than who am I to contradict him.

::'''''"but armorers can be wrong all the time"'''''? hahahaha. Yes, they can be wrong ALL the time, but if they were, they wouldn't get much work now, would they? LOL [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:22, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

2. I liked the grips eitherway. -[[User:ZombieKiller|ZombieKiller]]

Just as a quick note to anyone looking, these dont look like LDAs, they have the standard 1911 style SA skeleton trigger, I'm not sure if that trigger can be used in a double action pistol. Therefore My vote is that these are Para p-18s, especially since it's the same trigger used on the P-18s -Deadlysyn

[[Image:BDS2-9.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Romeo ([[Clifton Collins, Jr.]]) racks the slide of his custom 45 - note that the words "El Jefe" are engraved in the slide - .45 acp]]

Yeah they have SA triggers. Maybe they were converted to SA? Is that possible? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:53, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe the armorer meant Agent Bloom's weapon was the LDA. Just watched special features and that's what I heard him say. - JanG

[http://www.para-usa.com/new/images/product_large/PCX745Sphoto_big.jpg]
Closest Para I could find, based on serration angle and spacing, and the sights. Only problem, the LTC is a commander length and the ones Romeo uses look like government length. Another possibility is the PXT or the gun rights special edition. Kinda cool to use a gun rights pistol in a movie where fire fights are the appeal. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 08:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

::Did the armorer (whichever one is interviewed for the special features) mention if Romeo's guns were P14s or LDAs? Al Vrkljan, who was ''one'' of the armorers who worked on the movie, specifically told me LDA, but he may have mis-remembered. I'm guessing that Charles Taylor (the other of the two armorers, and Al's boss) is the guy they interviewed for the special features, and he might have said something else. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

According to Taylor, Romeo's pistols are custom made for the character. They kinda looked like Para PXTs to me, but without the front serrations like the special series. Also, when the armorer showed Agent Bloom's handgun 6.45 can be seen clearly on the side. Here's one that looks like it...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/5Wire/Firearms/645R.jpg
--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:26, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

:Do they ever mention on the DVD special features the guns that Noah Macmanus uses in the finale? I can't tell what model that subcompact Para is (could be a P-10 but I'm not sure; confirmation would help.)

Would whoever is identifying Romeo's pistols please make note: '''The pistols in the movie CLEARLY do not have flared grip frames meaning they CANNOT be double stack pistols.''' The guns are neither double action or high capacity.[[User:Captain America]]

:Maybe its this gun: http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=62 -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Noah's compact 1911 is a Para Nite Tac. As for Romeo's pistols, I had mentioned they looked like PXT Special series but with different fron sights. Maybe they're made up of several different parts put together. In any case, I agree with Captain... single stack, single action 1911s. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 17:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:PANiteTac.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
As you can see, the Para Nite Tac is a full sized pistol so that can't be the Para that Noah uses. Do you mean a Nite ''Hawg''?-[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 23:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== FN FAL ==
I just saw the movie myself and am pretty sure those were not FN Fals in the armourer's cage but some type of assault shotgun with a side folding stock. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 13:31, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:::FAL with no magazine.

== Crew Cut ==

The hitman adversary is listed as using H&K USPs, but according to the armorer in special features, he uses Sig P226s. Also in the bar shootout where he takes the bartender hostage, you can clearly see that is is a Sig. - Jan

:Did the armorer say whether Crew Cut used the P226R in the church scene, or only the bar shootout, or both? He definitely uses the P226R in the bar, but I wasn't able to tell what the suppressed pistols were. I'm getting the Blu Ray of this movie pretty soon (I ordered it from Amazon), so hopefully I'll be able to tell once I get it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

They looked like 226s in the church scene, especially when crew cut laid down next to the priest.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Watched special features again and according to the movie armorer (Charles Taylor) crew cut uses 2 sig 226s.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] 07:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

== Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket ==

Comparing the side view of both the Colt and the gun in the movie, it doesn't look quite like a 1908. Look for closely at the trigger [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
:Perhaps you are right. Any thoughts on what it might be, though? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Jennings J-22? it looks like one, and was specifically referred to as a .22.

:Just because it was referred to as a .22 doesn't mean they actually used a .22. The script, for example, said the Desert Eagles were supposed to be .50 AE models, but the prop weapons used in the movie were chambered in .357 Magnum. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Sherlock Holmes (2009)

2010-04-05T20:13:39Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Unknown Shotgun */

{{Template:Incomplete}}
[[Image:Sherlock_holmes_poster.jpg|300px|thumb|''Sherlock Holmes'' (2009)]]
'''The following guns were used in the 2009 ''Sherlock Holmes'' movie:'''

'''''NOTE:''' This is a work in progress that likely won't be complete until DVD/Blu-Ray release. Amongst those weapons still to do are the police sidearms (which ought to be Webley Metropolitan Police models), Le Strade's lever-action shotgun (IIRC) and Holmes' efforts at a suppressed large-caliber revolver (which also looked suspiciously Webley-like).''

'''WARNING:''' SPOILERS BELOW!

__TOC__ 
==Webley revolvers==
Characters in the film employ [[Webley Bulldog]]s. Based upon their short 2.5" barrels and lack of a rammer/ejector, those wielded by Dr. John Watson ([[Jude Law]]) and American Ambassador Standish are most likely to be No.3 'R.I.C.' models in .442 calibre. These weapons fired a black powder cartridge and were gate loaders, unlike the later and more memorable "top break" Webleys.

We get a much clearer view of Holmes' ([[Robert Downey Jr.]]) revolver, which closely matches the late-model .360 (or .38) calibre No.5 'Express' with its longer 4" barrel, deep cylinder, and contoured frame at the lower front. It has a bud-shaped swivel-type rammer, squared-off butt with lanyard ring, fluted cylinder, and a polished (if not stainless) steel finish.
[[Image:WebleyBulldog.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Webley Bulldog - .32 caliber.]]
[[Image:Holmes_watson_Webleys.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Holmes and Watson fire with their revolvers...]]
[[Image:Standish_bulldog.jpg|500px|thumb|none|...and Ambassador Standish with his before being set ablaze by "black magic".]]
[[Image:Holmes_Webley.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Holmes and Watson with their Webleys as featured in a promotional still.]]
[[Image:Sherlock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In a publicity photo, Watson aims his revolver.]]

==Unknown Shotgun==
In the carriage in the beginning, a police constable is briefy seen loading a shotgun. Based on how he loads the shell into the shotgun, the shotgun might be a [[Winchester Model 1887]]. Which would be a damned unlikely weapons for the LMP, a 14-gauge Greener-Martini Police Gun or generic 12 gauge side-by-side doubles perhaps.

:It is a Winchester 1887. Will cap it when I can [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::Based on only the loading shot of the gun I would agree on the Win. 1887, however when the Metro. Police storm the ceremony hall the profile of the gun appears much too narrow to be that of the '87. So I would somewhat lean towards it being the Greener Police Gun.[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

==Unidentified pocket revolver==
Irene Adler ([[Rachel McAdams]]) uses a pocket revolver of relatively large caliber, with open top and spur trigger, as seen in the promotional still below. (''Possibly, given her nationality, a Smith & Wesson?'')

I'm going to go with this is a belgian folding trigger revolver or pinfire revolver. Though there is another folding grip and folding trigger vest type revolver out there it could be but the name is eluding me.~Pawnstar
[[Image:Adler.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Adler (Rachel McAdams) fires at a Chinese henchman.]]
[[Image:Sherlock1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A publicity photo gives a better angle on the revolver.]]

Maybe a [[Smith & Wesson Model 1]]? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 20:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks like an open top revolver to me though..arent model 1's only break action with a top strap?

==C. Sharps Pepperbox==
Professor Moriarty is seen deploying, from a concealed wrist-mounted rig, a (probably reproduction) [[Sharps Pepperbox|C. Sharps patent Model 1A four-barreled pepperbox type pistol]] in .22 rimfire with engraved brass frame
[[Image:Pepperbox.gif|thumb|300px|none|Sharps Pepperbox .22 LR.]]
[[Image:22_pepperbox.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Moriarty aims his Sharps Pepperbox at Sherlock Holmes in disguise.]]

==Webley Mk 1==
Inspector Lestrade can be seen chambering a possible Webley Mk 1 revolver in the beginning.

==Howdah Pistol==
The Home Secretary, Lord Coward has a large-caliber (most likely .577) centerfire [[Howdah Pistol]] by one of the usual makers (e.g. famed shotgun makers Purdey).
[[Image:Howdah.png|thumb|none|250px|Howdah - .577 pistol.]]
[[Image:577_howdah_pistol.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Coward loads his Howdah pistol.]]

==Police Revolvers==
The actual police sidearms of 1891 were the older Webley M.P. Model in .450 Adams at least partially supplemented by the Army issue Webley Mark I (in .442 Enfield).

==External Links==
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-margie/3078649606/ Bulldog Webley at the Holmes Museum]

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Sherlock Holmes (2009)

2010-04-05T19:02:19Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Webley revolvers */

{{Template:Incomplete}}
[[Image:Sherlock_holmes_poster.jpg|300px|thumb|''Sherlock Holmes'' (2009)]]
'''The following guns were used in the 2009 ''Sherlock Holmes'' movie:'''

'''''NOTE:''' This is a work in progress that likely won't be complete until DVD/Blu-Ray release. Amongst those weapons still to do are the police sidearms (which ought to be Webley Metropolitan Police models), Le Strade's lever-action shotgun (IIRC) and Holmes' efforts at a suppressed large-caliber revolver (which also looked suspiciously Webley-like).''

'''WARNING:''' SPOILERS BELOW!

__TOC__ 
==Webley revolvers==
Characters in the film employ [[Webley Bulldog]]s. Based upon their short 2.5" barrels and lack of a rammer/ejector, those wielded by Dr. John Watson ([[Jude Law]]) and American Ambassador Standish are most likely to be No.3 'R.I.C.' models in .442 calibre. These weapons fired a black powder cartridge and were gate loaders, unlike the later and more memorable "top break" Webleys.

We get a much clearer view of Holmes' ([[Robert Downey Jr.]]) revolver, which closely matches the late-model .360 (or .38) calibre No.5 'Express' with its longer 4" barrel, deep cylinder, and contoured frame at the lower front. It has a bud-shaped swivel-type rammer, squared-off butt with lanyard ring, fluted cylinder, and a polished (if not stainless) steel finish.
[[Image:WebleyBulldog.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Webley Bulldog - .32 caliber.]]
[[Image:Holmes_watson_Webleys.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Holmes and Watson fire with their revolvers...]]
[[Image:Standish_bulldog.jpg|500px|thumb|none|...and Ambassador Standish with his before being set ablaze by "black magic".]]
[[Image:Holmes_Webley.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Holmes and Watson with their Webleys as featured in a promotional still.]]
[[Image:Sherlock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In a publicity photo, Watson aims his revolver.]]

==Unknown Shotgun==
In the carriage in the beginning, a police constable is briefy seen loading a shotgun. Based on how he loads the shell into the shotgun, the shotgun might be a [[Winchester Model 1887]]. Which would be a damned unlikely weapons for the LMP, a 14-gauge Greener-Martini Police Gun or generic 12 gauge side-by-side doubles perhaps.

:It is a Winchester 1887. Will cap it when I can [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

==Unidentified pocket revolver==
Irene Adler ([[Rachel McAdams]]) uses a pocket revolver of relatively large caliber, with open top and spur trigger, as seen in the promotional still below. (''Possibly, given her nationality, a Smith & Wesson?'')

I'm going to go with this is a belgian folding trigger revolver or pinfire revolver. Though there is another folding grip and folding trigger vest type revolver out there it could be but the name is eluding me.~Pawnstar
[[Image:Adler.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Adler (Rachel McAdams) fires at a Chinese henchman.]]
[[Image:Sherlock1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A publicity photo gives a better angle on the revolver.]]

Maybe a [[Smith & Wesson Model 1]]? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 20:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks like an open top revolver to me though..arent model 1's only break action with a top strap?

==C. Sharps Pepperbox==
Professor Moriarty is seen deploying, from a concealed wrist-mounted rig, a (probably reproduction) [[Sharps Pepperbox|C. Sharps patent Model 1A four-barreled pepperbox type pistol]] in .22 rimfire with engraved brass frame
[[Image:Pepperbox.gif|thumb|300px|none|Sharps Pepperbox .22 LR.]]
[[Image:22_pepperbox.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Moriarty aims his Sharps Pepperbox at Sherlock Holmes in disguise.]]

==Webley Mk 1==
Inspector Lestrade can be seen chambering a possible Webley Mk 1 revolver in the beginning.

==Howdah Pistol==
The Home Secretary, Lord Coward has a large-caliber (most likely .577) centerfire [[Howdah Pistol]] by one of the usual makers (e.g. famed shotgun makers Purdey).
[[Image:Howdah.png|thumb|none|250px|Howdah - .577 pistol.]]
[[Image:577_howdah_pistol.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Coward loads his Howdah pistol.]]

==Police Revolvers==
The actual police sidearms of 1891 were the older Webley M.P. Model in .450 Adams at least partially supplemented by the Army issue Webley Mark I (in .442 Enfield).

==External Links==
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-margie/3078649606/ Bulldog Webley at the Holmes Museum]

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Talk:Behind Enemy Lines

2010-04-01T00:47:34Z

RedJedRevolver: /* The Missle */

Can anyone take a look at the T72 tanks (Burnett walks past one while disguised as a Serbian soldier before removing his disguise and running off) and see if they have any machine guns mounted on top of the turret? The T72's used in the film usually come with [[NSV heavy machine gun]]s mounted on the Tank Commander's hatch on the right side of the turret roof, but I can't remember if the ones in the film had theirs mounted or removed. Thanks in advance.

[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:06, 24 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

==The Missile==
What kind of missile was used to shoot them down? [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 21:03, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
: It kind of looked like an SA-9. Anybody? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 22:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::I know the platform, but it's the particular missile, it was like a big flying shotgun. [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 03:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:::The shootdown is on youtube, and I watched it and paused it a couple of times, and it doesn't look like a real missile, at least not a real Soviet-bloc missile. I looked up all the possible suspects, and nothing matches. And since we're on the subject, the missile that streaked past them probably should've detonated due to the proximity, and since it was near the nose and cockpit, probably should've killed the crew and ended the movie right there. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Alright, thanks! It's been bugging me for weeks what that thing was. And yes there should have been proximity detonation. Although big flying shotgun is pretty cool too![[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Behind Enemy Lines

2010-03-30T03:22:04Z

RedJedRevolver: /* The Missle */

Talk:Behind Enemy Lines

2010-03-29T21:03:01Z

RedJedRevolver:

The Living Daylights

2010-03-14T00:31:36Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Walther PPK */

Talk:Marked for Death

2010-03-10T21:16:01Z

RedJedRevolver:

Can anyone ID this weapon? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 06:47, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:MFD 012.jpg]]

It's a Squeeze type palm Pistol. I can't tell you the exact type but that should help you in finding out more.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 07:56, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the information! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:07, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

If I remember correctly its French. I have a book with info on one, but posting it would be copyright infringement. [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 21:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Avatar

2010-03-09T01:58:21Z

RedJedRevolver: /* unknown Bullpup rifle */

==Proper categorization of images==
Guys, please. If you have behind the scene images, please put the term ''[ [ C_tegory : Behind the Scenes Image ] ]'' in the text box when you upload it, or at least edit the image to have that tag. Thank you. (Note, I put a _ in place of the letter A so that the Wiki code won't get confused.....) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

some of the rifles look like a Experimental MR-C bullpup assault rifle Rex095
:Has Crye even put together a ''working prototype'' of one yet? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I have the feeling that the guns are going to be like the pulse rifle almost impossible to tell what guns is underneath...If any. Rex095

has the general shape of the MR-C but has the same look as the Modified M60 machine gun. Rex095

the guns could not be real guns but look like there firing thou CGI effect?

:Except for the M60 based gun, most of the other guns look like fake props. All of their firing are CGI, so they are not build ups from real guns, like in Aliens. I just saw the flick and they really looked like 'built from the ground up' props. Too bad. It kinda makes the Avatar page here to be a lame one, since we are limited in what info we can provide to the general public regarding information. MPM2008

I can see why because there mostly filming in enclosed spaces, and went for CGI firing for safety. Rex095
:I don't remember all of it but I remember watching a behind-the-scenes segment and they showed them actually firing the weapons as they produced muzzle flashes though it was never explained if they were real or not.--[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 01:07, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

they could have used real guns for the shooting and had non firing versions for extra? Rex095

==break open revolver==
'''[moved from main page]'''

Possibly an MP412 Rex

with a scope a laser sight?

A Revolver would be a good choice for enclosed environment. one less brass flying everywhere and getting lodged in sensitive machinery, and forces the user to aim more, and not hit sensitive machinery. Rex095

:found this video on the net http://surrealaward.com/avatar/videobroll04.shtml --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

only six shots, and no brass, it a revolver Rex095

when did he break it open i never him do that in the movie-[[Doomsayer64]]

I'm pretty sure its not an MP412. They never really made them besides prototypes to my knowledge Probably easier and cheaper to mock up a regular revolver. I don't ever recall him breaking it open either so guessing its a normal solid frame mock up. Epic movie btw! -Furious Oyster

Remember tho, the Marines were all mercenaries now so it could be its just a custom weapon the Colonel uses modified with some extra gear. I didnt get a close enough look at the peice used by the crew cheif during the main battle so I can't say for sure, just a guesss--Kellers357

The Colonel is the only on carrying this gun, so it must be a persion sidearm

According to the avatar wiki the Wasp can be acquired privately by RDA soldiers. also the wasp can kill or injer most pandora wildlife with 6 shots. if the gun is that good, and the RDA standard issue sidearms look like most modern 9mm pistols, then is must be an expensive Revolver. if it was cheap it would be the RDA standard issue sidearm. Rex095

==Pistol==

in the http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7953/catalogueweta2.jpg image the pistol looks like a star trek phaser. Rex095

Is it just me or does it look like the pistol from Halo? Actually, most of the gear reminds me of Halo! - GunEnthusiast

he did make Aliens, and the gear form Halo is aspired by the gear in Aliens. Rex095

:Besides the M60, I haven't recognize what the other guns are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:43, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

::I realise he made Aliens but the pistol just looks strikingly similar to the one from Halo and the rotorcraft looked so much like Pelicans! [[User:GunEnthusiast|GunEnthusiast]]

the Aerospatiale SA-2 Samson look more like the UH-1 Iroquois (Huey), and the pistols have longer slide.

:They do look more like Huey and also a Hornet from Halo 3 combined with the double propellers. Halo is pretty much based on Aliens, so why not James Cameron steal off of Halo? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:19, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

If you compare the Avatar Marines helos to the USMC's you'll see a strong resembles,
Hueys and Cobras you know?

::I get that, but the gunship reminds me of the Pelicans - [[User:GunEnthusiast|GunEnthusiast]]

all the Vehicles look practical, and could really work. The Dragon, look like they combined the idea of the C-130, and a gunship. Rex095

:: The helos and gunships are clearly based on the Marine´s dropship from Aliens (that´s what I call the "Cameron Style"). Just look at the external cockpits:

http://pony-hp.web.infoseek.co.jp/DROPSHIP/DROPSHIP-23.JPG

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/b/bb/Dragon.jpg

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/d/d2/Scorpion.jpg [[User:Markost|Markost]] 01:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

==unknown Bullpup rifle==

there is a third tip of rifle used by the humans. Colonel Quaritch use it to shot at the escape Samson, Norm Spellman, and Trudy Chacon are seen holding the same tipe of rifle. i think it had the same base as the other rifles but has a different barrel.

Never mind it was the unknown Bullpup pump-action shotgun.

You guys ever heard of the MRC? Made by Crye Associates, prototype, bullpup caseless rifle looks just like those. Albiet with a few mods.[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 01:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

==grenades==

Jake at one point in the film pull grenade pins out with his teeth. it is possible but since he was in an his 10 foot tall Avatar at the time, and they were human grenade which he taped two together just to hold the properly.

The Grenades are the cylinder design like smoke grenade, and Stun Grenade.

Are they really true grenades? Looking too big. Maybe ad hoc converted warheads from Trudy's Samson (since she doesn't use missiles attacking Quaritch)?

they were Grenades,Jake just taped two together just to hold the properly

but still each of the two seems too big and resembling more of smoke grenade than HE hmmm

The RDA could be making there own grenades?, everything they can make on Pandora the do make. they may make more power full grenades because of the size and toughness of Pandora wildlife. the picture of the table of guns have some grenade next to a rifle for size comparison. Rex095

Talk:Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan

2010-03-06T19:19:12Z

RedJedRevolver:

There's a little goof here, you only have to be a legal resident to buy a gun, not a citizen. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
Hes neither so still he wouldn't be able to buy one

Actually if he had the Visa for several months he'd be able to buy one.[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 19:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

The Dark Knight

2010-03-06T03:44:16Z

RedJedRevolver: /* M1 Garand */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''The Dark Knight'':'''
[[Image:The Dark Knight.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''[[The Dark Knight]]'' (2008)]]

==WZ.83 Pallad D==
One of the Joker's henchmen named "Happy" uses a 40mm grenade launcher to break a window and to fire a grappling hook to the bank's roof. They are later seen used once more by his men to fire a line between two buildings to take down a GCPD helicopter.
[[Image:Grenade_launcher_wz.83_Pallad_D-1-.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|WZ.83 Pallad D - 40mm.]]
[[Image:TDKPallad-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Happy" shoots out the window with his WZ.83 Pallad D.]]
[[Image:TDK 20002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Happy" fires a grappling line over to the bank roof.]]
[[Image:TDK 00009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Joker's men fires a line across the building.]]
[[Image:TDK 00010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another one of Joker's men fires another line to create a block for the police chopper.]]

==Beretta 92SB-C==

A [[Beretta 92SB-C|Beretta 92SB-C]] equipped with a suppressor is used by one of The Joker's henchmen, "Happy" during the bank heist to kill "Dopey". An officer is also seen pointing his 92SB-C at The Joker when he takes Detective Stephens ([[Keith Szarabajka]]) hostage with a shard of glass, demanding to get his one phone call.

[[Image:92SB-C.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92SB-C 9x19mm, compact model of the 92SB.]]
[[Image:TDK 20004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker's henchman "Happy", stands over "Dopey's" dead body with his suppressed Beretta 92SB-C after killing him.]]
[[Image:TDK 00011.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer aims his Beretta 92SB-C at the Joker.]]
[[Image:Picture 102.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Production Images of The Dark Knight.]]
[[Image:Happy'sBeretta.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Production Photo of Happy's suppressed Beretta.]]

==Beretta 92FS Inox==
A [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS Inox]] is seen used by a Batman copycat against Scarecrow ([[Cillian Murphy]]). Several Beretta Inoxes are also seen used by Joker's henchmen at Gambol's ([[Michael Jai White]]) ambush.
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Inox - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDK 5003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Batman copycats tries to hold up Scarecrow with a Beretta 92FS Inox before he sprays fear toxin in his face.]]
[[Image:TDK 5103.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Beretta Inox is held to the head of one of Gambol's men.]]
[[Image:TDK 5104.jpg||thumb|none|600px|Another one of Gambol's men is overcome at gunpoint.]]
[[Image:TDK 5007.jpg||thumb|none|600px|A wide shot shows the Joker's men with Beretta Inox's as they overcome Gambol's men.]]

==Glock 17==
"Grumpy", one of The Joker's henchmen in the bank heist, uses a [[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17]] to kill "Happy" in the vault. He also uses it to hold up The Joker, suspecting he will kill him as well, only for Joker to tell him he is going to kill the bus driver. This confuses Grumpy until he is hit by a bus that smashes into the building. Several other Glocks are seen in the hands of Lau's henchmen and Gotham City police throughout the film.
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 3rd Generation - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDK 20003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Grumpy" leads the robbery with his Glock 17 drawn.]]
[[Image:TDK 4001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Where'd you learn to count?" Grumpy nurses a bullet wound after being hit by an unexpected sixth shot from the bank manager's shotgun.]]
[[Image:TDK 20005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grumpy kills Happy with his Glock 17.]]
[[Image:TDK 20006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grumpy holds his Glock 17 on The Joker.]]
[[Image:TDK 5017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Batman disarms one of Lau's men of his Glock 17.]]
[[Image:TDK 5024.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Lau's men lay unconcious with a Glock 17 in hand.]]
[[Image:TDKGlock17-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GCPD officer apprehends Thomas Schiff, one of The Joker's men.]]
[[Image:TDKGlock17-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of The Joker's men disguised as a doctor wields a Glock 17.]]
[[Image:TDKGlock17-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT officer points a Glock 17 at Batman before he is yanked out the window.]]

==Glock 17 (Converted to full-auto)==
The Joker ([[Heath Ledger]]) uses a [[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17]] that has been converted to full-auto, as the gun lacks the Glock 18's firing selector switch on the side of the slide. His tutone Glock is fitted with a G18's standard 33 round magazine. He is seen using it as his main weapon several times in the film. For someone as bizarre as The Joker, the gun fits him well as it is very rare, destructive, stylish although in some ways impractical. The extremely high cyclic rate makes it difficult to control, although in the hands of an experienced shooter, it is all the more deadly. The armorer referred to the gun as a Glock 18, but this is less of a mouthful then "Glock 17 converted to full-auto to resemble a Glock 18". Not to mention, he likely assumed no one would know the difference anyway. The armorer also mentioned how three Glocks were used, including two converted Glock 17s and one flashpaper model for close shooting scenes where blanks are harmful. Trivia: To make the Joker's Glock sound more impressive, the sound editors mixed in the report of a [[GE M134 Minigun]]. Despite the extreme cyclic rate difference (roughly 1300rpm to 4000rpm), this sound fits quite nicely.

[[Image:Glock_17.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 fitted with a chrome slide - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDK 3022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker disguised as one of the low-life robbers loads a 33 round magazine into his converted Glock.]]
[[Image:TDK 3013.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He then locks the slide back and chambers the gun.]]
[[Image:TDK 20008.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker shoots the bank manager with his Glock.]]
[[Image:TDK 3016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker shoots the bus driver with his Glock.]]
[[Image:TDK 00014.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker fires a burst from his Glock at the SWAT van. Note how the gun jammed after a single shot, although the sound editor and continuity director chose to ignore this.]]
[[Image:TDK 00015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker continues to fire his Glock on full at the SWAT van.]]
[[Image:TDK 00016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker's Glock locks empty, so he switches to a Remington 870 sawed-off.]]
[[Image:TDK 5036.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"This city deserves a better class of criminal..." The Joker holds his Glock as he explains his philosophy to the Chechen.]]
[[Image:TDK 5032.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As mob's money burns, Joker holds his Glock on The Chechen ([[Ritchie Coster]]).]]
[[Image:TDKGlockMod-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker shoots the officer while crudely disguised as a nurse. Note how the gun is a flashpaper gun due to close proximity for safety concerns.]]
[[Image:TDKGlockMod-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker with his suppressed Glock.]]

==Walther P99==
Lau ([[Chin Han]]) is seen pulling a [[Walther P99]] from his desk when Batman ([[Christian Bale]]) cuts the power to the building. Lau then uses the Walther to fire several shots at Batman.
[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther P99 - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDK 5023.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lau chambers his Walther P99.]]
[[Image:TDK 5019.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lau fires his Walther P99 at Batman. This type of low grip makes recoil control difficult and would definitely throw off sight alignment.]]
[[Image:TDK 5122.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lau with his Walther P99.]]

==Glock 26 (fictional mock up)==
During Harvey Dent's ([[Aaron Eckhart]]) cross-examination in a trial of mobster Sal Maroni ([[Eric Roberts]]), the witness Al Rossi([[Michael Vieau]]) draws a [[Glock 26]] cosmetically changed to look like a different gun. He pulls the trigger, but the gun misfires. After dissarming Rossi, Dent identifies the gun as a "Carbon fiber... 28 Caliber, made in China." Though, admittedly, this is just movie-talk, and therefore not actually pertaining to the gun.
[[Image:Glock 26.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Glock 26 - 9mm]]
[[Image:TDK 6008.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Al Rossi([[Michael Vieau]]) pulls his mocked up Glock 26 on Dent.]]
[[Image:TDKGlock26mock-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note how the back plate has been covered up and the sights removed, further helping to hide its origins.]]
[[Image:TDK 7020.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent unloads the pistol. Note that one of the officers in the background carries a Beretta 92FS in his holster.]]
[[Image:TDK 6003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent ID's the pistol to Maroni.]]
[[Image:TDK 6005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent puts the pistol down in front of Maroni.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub==
The Joker takes a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub]] off of one of his men at Harvey Dent's fundraiser after Batman knocks him unconscious and uses it to hold Rachel Dawes ([[Maggie Gyllenhaal]]) hostage before shooting out the window behind him and dropping her out of it.
[[Image:Smith&Wesson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 19 with 3" barrel - .357 Magnum.]]
[[Image:TDK 6012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker holds Rachel hostage with a snub nose Smith & Wesson Model 19.]]
[[Image:TDK 6013.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker demands Batman to take off his mask as he waves around the S&W.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==
Harvey Dent ([[Aaron Eckhart]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] to interrogate Thomas Schiff, one of The Joker's thugs.
[[Image:S&W 36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W36-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent swings open the cylinder on the Smith & Wesson Model 36.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W36-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent checks the Smith & Wesson Model 36.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W36-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent holds the Model 36 on Schiff.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 64==
The Joker ([[Heath Ledger]]) gives Harvey Dent ([[Aaron Eckhart]]) a stainless [[Smith & Wesson Model 64]] with a 3" heavy barrel to kill his perceived "enemies", flipping his coin to decide their fate.
[[Image:TwoFaceS&WModel64.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 64 Stainless Model - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker gives Dent a Smith & Wesson Model 64.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent holds the Smith & Wesson Model 64 on The Joker.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent holds the Model 64 to Joker.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent points the Model 64 at Det. Wuertz.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent fires the Model 64.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent with the Model 64 in Maroni's limo.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of the Model 64 that Dent holds on Maroni's driver.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dent holds the Model 64 on Det. Anna Ramirez ([[Monique Curnen]]).]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-10.png|thumb|none|600px|After shooting Batman, Dent puts the gun to his own head and flips his coin.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W64-11.png|thumb|none|600px|Note how even after shooting Batman and cocking the hammer, the chambers are fully loaded.]]

==SIG-Sauer P229==
Detective Stephens ([[Keith Szarabajka]]) uses a [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P229|SIG-Sauer P229]] as his sidearm in the film most notably during the funeral when The Joker fires at the mayor.
[[Image:P229.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P229 - .357 Sig.]]
[[Image:TDKSIGP229-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Det. Stephens draws his SIG P229 when The Joker's men strike.]]
[[Image:TDKSIGP229-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With his SIG drawn, Stephens stands over Lt. Gordon's "dead" body.]]

==M16A2==
[[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] rifles are used by National Guardsmen, and by some of the GCPD officers at the funeral.
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M16A2 - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:TDK 6014.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A police officer covers the funeral with his M16A2.]]
[[Image:TDK 5037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer charges his M16A2 fitted with a Trijicon Reflex sight while riding in a chopper.]]
[[Image:TDKM16A2-3.png|thumb|none|600px|A National Guardsmen is seen on the news report with an M16A2.]]
[[Image:TDKM16A2-4.png|thumb|none|600px|A Guardsmen with an M16A2 at the docks.]]
[[Image:TDKM16A2-5.png|thumb|none|600px|Guardsmen guard the civilians on one of the carriers threatened by The Joker.]]
[[Image:TDKM16A2-6.png|thumb|none|600px|Guardsmen armed with M16A2s.]]

==M4A1 Carbine==
[[M16 rifle series#M4 Carbine|M4A1]] carbines are used by the GCPD SWAT teams throughout the film, and police snipers during the funeral. The M4A1s are seen mainly fitted with reflex sights, foregrips, and M900 Surefire tactical lights.
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M4A1 with LE stock and factory grips - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:TDKM4A1-1.png|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT sniper fires his M4A1 at a window when a timer opens the shades to distract the snipers from The Joker and his men.]]
[[Image:TDKM4A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT officer armed with an M4A1 guards Harvey Dent in the transport van.]]
[[Image:TDKM4A1-3.png|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT officer loads his M4A1 fitted with a Surefire M900 light before breaching the building.]]
[[Image:TDKM4A1-4.png|thumb|none|600px|Batman disarms a SWAT officer of his M4A1.]]
[[Image:TDKM4A1-5.png|thumb|none|600px|SWAT officers ride the elevator armed with M4A1s.]]
[[Image:TDKM4A1-6.png|thumb|none|600px|SWAT officers do a sweep armed with M4A1s and MP5A3s.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A2==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]s are used by GCPD SWAT teams and Lau's men in Hong Kong throughout the film.
[[Image:H&KMP5A2WideForearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDKMP5A2-1.png|thumb|none|600px|A GCPD SWAT officer under the command of Comm. Gordon wields a Heckler & Koch MP5A2.]]
[[Image:TDKMP5A2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Batman uses one of Lau's men's MP5A2 as a club to dispatch him.]]
[[Image:TDKMP5A2-3.png|thumb|none|600px|GCPD SWAT storm the building with MP5A2s.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5A3==
[[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]s are also used by the GCPD SWAT and Hong Kong SDU teams.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDKMP5A3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SDU teams storm Lau's building armed with Heckler & Koch MP5A3s.]]
[[Image:TDKMP5A3-2.png|thumb|none|600px|SDU armed with MP5A3s.]]
[[Image:TDKMP5A3-3.png|thumb|none|600px|GCPD SWAT enter the building armed with MP5A3s.]]
[[Image:TDKMP5A3-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT officer is yanked from the building with his MP5A3 in hand.]]
[[Image:TDKMP5A3-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT officer aims his MP5A3 at Batman before being yanked out of the building.]]
[[Image:TDKMP5A3-6.png|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT officer points his MP5A3 at The Joker as he dangles from Batman's grappling hook line.]]

==Remington Model 700PSS==
A GCPD SWAT sniper scouts windows for shooters during the funeral armed with a [[Remington 700|Remington 700PSS]].
[[Image:RemingtonPSS700.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington Model 700PSS - .300 Win Mag.]]
[[Image:TDKRemington700PSS-1.png|thumb|none|600px|"Tightly, but frankly, there's alot of windows up here.".]]

==Blaser 93==
[[Blaser 93 sniper rifle]]s are used by the GCPD SWAT snipers over looking the building The Joker is in from the neighboring rooftop. While the poor light makes them kind of hard to see, the basic shape of the rifle and the obvious straight pull bolt-action makes it easy to identify.
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blaser 93 - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:TDKBlazer93-1.png|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT sniper trains his Blaser 93 on the "clowns", unaware they are hostages disguised as henchmen against their will.]]
[[Image:TDKBlazer93-2.png|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT sniper waits for the order to fire.]]
[[Image:TDKBlazer93-3.png|thumb|none|600px|Any sniper with a brain would find such easy shots bizarre. The fact they are standing still with their hands bound would likely cause suspicion as well.]]
[[Image:TDKBlazer93-4.png|thumb|none|600px|The sniper chambers his Blaser 93 which clearly has a straight pull bolt-action.]]
[[Image:TDKBlazer93-5.png|thumb|none|600px|Like in most films, the rifles are shown to have lasers which reveal to the target they are under a sniper scope. In reality, lasers are very tactically unsound. Also, snipers aims for the head, not the torso (unless a headshot is not available and it clearly is here).]]
[[Image:TDKBlazer93-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A sniper prepares to fire his Blaser 93.]]
[[Image:TDKBlazer93-7.png|thumb|none|600px|A sniper fires his Blaser 93.]]

==M1 Garand==
The Joker ([[Heath Ledger]]) and his men use [[M1 Garand]] rifles during the assassination attempt on the Mayor while disguised as the officers who carry out the 3-volley salute during the funeral of Commissioner Loeb ([[Colin McFarlane]]). Since funeral procession guns are blank converted or fitted with blank adapters (they could lack both but these guns clearly fire in semi-automatic), the guns are either following the movie myth that blanks and live rounds both work in live guns, or they removed the adapters and are firing live rounds into the air for the first two volleys!
* Note: Theoretically, (however unlikely) the rifles might be unmodified Garands firing grenade-launching blanks during the first two volleys.
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand - .30-06]]
[[Image:TDKM1Garand-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Thomas Schiff (David Dastmalchian) fires an M1 Garand into the air.]]
[[Image:TDKM1Garand-2.png|thumb|none|600px|The Joker and his men fire the M1 Garands.]]
[[Image:TDKM1Garand-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker fires an M1 Garand into the air.]]
[[Image:TDKM1Garand-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker fires the M1 Garand at the Mayor.]]

==Norinco Type 69 RPG==
A Chinese [[RPG-7#Type 69|Norinco Type 69]] copy of the [[RPG-7]] is used by the Joker during the armored car chase scene. He uses it to destroy a police cruiser, but fails to hit the armored car protecting Harvey Dent ([[Aaron Eckhart]]). When Batman ([[Christian Bale]]) joins the chase, The Joker fires on the armored car again, only to hit the Tumbler inadvertently (after Batman bridges his Tumbler in front of the van). The Tumbler damaged beyond viability, Batman is forced to switch to his secondary vehicle hidden within the Tumbler, the Batpod. The SWAT officer riding shotgun referred to this rocket propelled grenade launcher as a "bazooka", which meant that this officer probably did not have any prior military experience before joining GCPD.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Chinese Type 69 RPG - 70mm.]]
[[Image:TDKType69RPG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker fires his Norinco Type 69 RPG.]]
[[Image:TDKType69RPG-2.png|thumb|none|600px|The Joker reloads the Type 69 RPG.]]
[[Image:TDK 5004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker fires the RPG.]]
[[Image:TDK 5025.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker prepares to fire another rocket.]]
[[Image:TDK 5026.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker takes out the Tumbler with the RPG.]]

==Skorpion SA Vz 61==
One of Scarecrow's ([[Cillian Murphy]]) men uses a [[Skorpion SA Vz 61]] during the meeting with the Russians.
[[Image:Skorpion-SA-VZ-61.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Skorpion SA Vz 61 - .32 ACP]]
[[Image:TDKSkorpion-1.png|thumb|none|600px|One of Scarecrow's men fires his Skorpion SA Vz 61 at the Tumbler, holding the gun by the magazine like an amateur.]]
[[Image:TDKSkorpion-2.png|thumb|none|600px|The thug ducks as the Tumbler switch to "intimidate" mode.]]

==AKMSU==
An [[AK-47|AKMSU]] is used by one of Scarecrow's men during the meeting with the Russians.
[[Image:AK-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMSU Krinkov - 7.62x39mm. This is a blank adapted full auto transferable AKM (7.62x39mm) pistol that was converted into a Krinkov via parts kit.]]
[[Image:TDKAKMSU-1.png|thumb|none|600px|A thug fires his AKMSU at the Tumbler.]]

==IMI Mini Uzi==
One of the Batman copycats is seen using an [[Uzi|IMI Mini Uzi]] to shoot at the Russians.
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Mini Uzi - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDKMiniUzi-1.png|thumb|none|600px|One of the Batman copycats fires his IMI Mini Uzi at the Russians.]]
[[Image:TDKMiniUzi-2.png|thumb|none|600px|The Batman copycat with his Mini Uzi.]]

==Ruger Mini-14==

A [[Ruger Mini-14]] is used by one of the Batman copycats who attacks the meeting between Scarecrow and the Russians. Batman twists the barrel on the rifle with his super-strength gadget before knocking him out.
[[Image:Ruger-Mini-14.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ruger Mini-14 - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:TDKMini14-1.png|thumb|none|600px|A Batman copycat wields a Ruger Mini-14.]]
[[Image:TDKMini14-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Batman bends the barrel on the Mini-14.]]

==Smith & Wesson 5904==
James Gordon ([[Gary Oldman]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series| Smith & Wesson 5904]] as his sidearm in the film.
[[Image:S&W-5904-Early-RIGHT.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9x19mm. This has the finger step contoured trigger guard that would later be replaced by the round trigger guard.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W5904-1.png|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Gordon raids a bank vault with his Smith & Wesson 5904 drawn.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W5904-2.png|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Gordon with his 5904 at the ready.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W5904-3.png|thumb|none|600px|Gordon with his 5904.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W5904-4.png|thumb|none|600px|Gordon enters a crime scene with his 5904 at the ready.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W5904-5.png|thumb|none|600px|Comm. Gordon points his 5904 at Batman.]]
[[Image:TDKS&W5904-6.png|thumb|none|600px|Comm. Gordon searches for Dent and his family.]]

==Beretta PM12S==
Several of The Joker's men are seen using [[Beretta PM12S]] submachine guns throughout the film.
[[Image:BerettaPM12S.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta PM12S - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDKPM12S-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of The Joker's men holds a Beretta PM12S on the party goers at the fundraiser. Apparently they didn't have enough plastic clown masks in stock and had to paint pantyhose instead.]]
[[Image:TDKPM12S-2.png|thumb|none|600px|One of The Joker's men disguised as a doctor readies his Beretta PM12S as the SWAT enters.]]
[[Image:TDKPM12S-3.png|thumb|none|600px|One of Joker's men readies his PM12S.]]
[[Image:TDKPM12S-4.png|thumb|none|600px|The thug with his PM12S.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 10==
Several officers in Hong Kong following the SDU teams are seen using [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] revolvers with heavy barrels and rubber grips.
[[Image:S&WModel10HB.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB (Heavy barrel) Revolver (Post 1950s Model) - .38 Special. Later incarnations of the Model 10 had a non tapered Heavy Barrel, which leads it to be commonly mistaken for a .357 revolver.]]
[[Image:TDK 5109.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A lobby guard in Lau's building is seen with a rubber gripped Smith & Wesson Model 10 in his holster.]]
[[Image:TDK 5203.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Hong Kong officer aims his Smith & Wesson Model 10 at Batman.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
"Chuckles" is seen holding a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] in his left hand when he is shot by the Bank Manager.
[[Image:Smith&WessonModel29.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 29 - .44 magnum]]
[[Image:TDKrevolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chuckles is gunned down with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] in his left hand and his MAC-11 in the other.]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
The Chechen ([[Ritchie Coster]]) and his men are seen using [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]] pistols during the meeting with Scarecrow.
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDKSIGP226-1.png|thumb|none|600px|The Chechen with his SIG-Sauer P226.]]
[[Image:TDKSIGP226-2.png|thumb|none|600px|One of the Russians with his SIG P226 at the ready.]]

==Colt Police Positive==
After The Joker announces on the news that if Coleman Reese ([[Joshua Harto]]) isn't killed within the hour, he will blow up a hospital in Gotham, one citizen tries to shoot Reese with his old nickel plated [[Colt Police Positive]] before he is tackled by the police.
[[Image:Colt Police Positive Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel Colt Police Positive - .32/.38 Special.]]
[[Image:TDKColtpolicepositive-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A citizen draws his Colt Police Positive.]]
[[Image:TDKColtpolicepositive-2.png|thumb|none|600px|The citizen fires his Police Positive, eyes closed. It's highly unlikely that this guy really has shot this gun many times and therefore it's understandable for his eyes to be closed.]]
[[Image:TDKColtpolicepositive-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GCPD officer takes the Police Positive away from the citizen.]]

==Remington 870 Sawed-off==
During the bank robbery, the Bank Manager ([[William Fichtner]]) uses a sawed-off [[Remington 870]] shotgun to kill "Chuckles" and fires at Joker and Grumpy, firing five shots in total. Grumpy asks Joker if he is out and when he jumps up to fire, an unexpected sixth round grazes him before Joker shoots him. After he kills his remaining men, Joker takes the shotgun for himself. He is later seen using it to gun down a traffic cop who walks up to his semi-truck and to fire at the SWAT van transporting Harvey Dent before switching to his RPG. Multiple times in the film he is seen firing the gun with one hand, which in reality would produce more recoil than shown. Since blanks produce little to no recoil, this factor doesn't present a problem in movie guns.
[[Image:SawnoffShotgun2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Sawed-off - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:TDK 3019.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Bank Manager readies his sawed-off Remington 870.]]
[[Image:Tdk 20088.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Bank Manager fires his Remington 870.]]
[[Image:Tdk20087.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Bank Manager realizes that he has fired his last round.]]
[[Image:TDK 3020.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Manager lays wounded with his 870 at his side.]]
[[Image:TDK 5018.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"We made it." The Joker with his 870 crashes Wayne's party.]]
[[Image:TDK 5022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker fires his 870 into the air to get the party goers attention at Dent's fundraiser.]]
[[Image:TDK 5021.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker points his 870 at the party goers.]]
[[Image:TDK 5028.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker shoots a traffic cop with his 870.]]
[[Image:TDK 5014.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joker fires his 870 at the SWAT van.]]

==Remington 870==
[[Remington 870]] shotguns are seen as the standard long arms of the Gotham City Police Department. One of the Batman copycats is also seen firing one during the meeting between the Chechan and Scarecrow.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]‎
[[Image:TDK 5002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Batman copycats fires a Remington 870.]]
[[Image:TDKRemington870-2.png|thumb|none|600px|GCPD officers stand guard armed with Remington 870s.]]
[[Image:TDKRemington870-3.png|thumb|none|600px|GCPD officers stand guard armed with Remington 870s.]]
[[Image:TDKRemington870-4.png|thumb|none|600px|An officer escorts Coleman Reese ([[Joshua Harto]]) armed with a Remington 870 after The Joker demands he is killed within the hour or a hospital is blown up.]]
[[Image:TDKRemington870-5.png|thumb|none|600px|Officer Berg ([[Matt Shallenberger]]) checks the chamber on his Remington 870 while escorting Reese.]]
[[Image:TDKRemington870-6.png|thumb|none|600px|A SWAT officer with his Remington 870 at the ready.]]

==Double Barrel Shotgun==
A [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double Barrel Shotgun]] is seen wielded by one of The Joker's henchmen at the fundraiser. Bruce Wayne ([[Christian Bale]]) disarms the henchman of the shotgun and then disassembles the gun. This gun was likely selected because it is arguably one of the simplest guns to disassemble of many.
[[Image:StevesSBS1960s.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stevens Hammerless 1960s era shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:TDKshotgun-1.png|thumb|none|600px|Bruce takes the shotgun from one of Joker's men.]]
[[Image:TDKshotgun-2.png|thumb|none|600px|Bruce removes the forend.]]
[[Image:TDKshotgun-3.png|thumb|none|600px|He then removes the barrels. Simple.]]

==Mossberg 500==
[[Mossberg 500]]s can be seen in the hands of the correctional officers on the carrier guarding both the civilian boat and the convict boat.
[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 with extended magazine tube - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:TDKMossberg500-3.png|thumb|none|600px|An officer guards the civilians on the carrier armed with a Mossberg 500.]]
[[Image:TDKMossberg500-4.png|thumb|none|600px|The officer to the left is armed with a Mossberg 500 while the one to the right has a 590 on the convict carrier.]]
[[Image:TDKMossberg500-5.png|thumb|none|600px|An officer holds the prisoners at bay with his Mossberg 500.]]

==Mossberg 590==
[[Mossberg 500|Mossberg 590s]] are also seen used by the correctional officers on the carriers. 590s are also used by GCPD officers.
[[Image:Mossberg 590.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 590 - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:TDKMossberg590-1.png|thumb|none|600px|A GCPD officer arrests one of Dent's heavy load of convicts with a Mossberg 590 in hand.]]
[[Image:TDKMossberg590-2.png|thumb|none|600px|A GCPD officer with a Mossberg 590.]]
[[Image:TDKMossberg590-3.png|thumb|none|600px|A correctional officer fires his Mossberg 590 into the air to break up the convicts.]]
[[Image:TDKMossberg590-4.png|thumb|none|600px|An officer with a Mossberg 590.]]
[[Image:TDKMossberg590-5.png|thumb|none|600px|The officer with his Mossberg 590.]]

==Benelli M3 Super 90==
Commissioner Gordon ([[Gary Oldman]]) uses a [[Benelli M3 Super 90]] with a Surefire dedicated forend (which he took from the SWAT officer who rides in the front seat with him in the armor transport carrying Dent) to apprehend The Joker only seconds before he tries to get to Batman. Several other GCPD SWAT officers use Benelli M3 shotguns as well.
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Benelli M3 Super 90 - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:TDK 5043.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SWAT officer riding shotgun is seen armed with a Benelli M3.]]
[[Image:TDK 5215.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note saddle mounted shell holster on the Benelli.]]
[[Image:TDK 5009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon holds a Benelli M3 on The Joker.]]
[[Image:TDK 5012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer view of the Benelli as Gordon throws Joker to the ground.]]

==Smith & Wesson M76==
The Joker ([[Heath Ledger]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson M76]] stored in his semi-truck to open fire on Batman's Batpod and several civilian cars before Batman crashes and Joker ditches the gun in favor of his knife. One of Scarecrow's men is also seen armed with one during the meeting with the Russians. Like the modified Glock 17 listed above, the report of a [[GE M134 Minigun]] is dubbed over for the sound of the gun.
[[Image:S&W M76.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson M76 - 9mm.]]
[[Image:TDK 5031.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Scarecrow's men is armed with a Smith & Wesson M76.]]
[[Image:TDK 5015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Due to The Joker's lack of trigger discipline , he never keeps his finger off the trigger and when he falls trying to get out of his overturned semi-truck, he lets off a burst from his Smith & Wesson M76. Curiously, there are no bullet impacts on the ground.]]
[[Image:TDK 5117.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker fires his Smith & Wesson M76.]]
[[Image:TDK 4011.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An alternate take of the Joker firing his Smith & Wesson M76 at oncoming traffic.]]
[[Image:TDK 5020.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the Batpod approaches, the Joker continues to fire his Smith & Wesson M76.]]

==MAC-11==
"Chuckles", one of Joker's henchmen, uses a [[MAC-10#MAC-11|MAC-11]] during the bank robbery before being gunned down by the Bank Manager.
[[Image:Mac m11 9k.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MAC-11 - .380 ACP]]
[[Image:TDK 3015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chuckles loads up his MAC-11 on the way to the bank.]]
[[Image:TDK 3017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chuckles with his MAC-11 during the bank robbery.]]
[[Image:stock10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is the buttstock that Chuckles uses.]]

==MAC-10==
Many of Joker's men use [[MAC-10]]s through out the film. Several of the hostages towards the end of the film disguised as clowns are seen with MAC-10s taped in their hands.
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MAC-10 - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:TDKMAC10-3.png|thumb|none|600px|One of The Joker's men points a MAC-10 at the party goers during the fundraiser.]]
[[Image:TDKMAC10-4.png|thumb|none|600px|One of the hostages disguised as a clown tries to pull the MAC-10 taped to their hands off as the SWAT team enter.]]
[[Image:TDKMAC10-5.png|thumb|none|600px|One of The Joker's men points his MAC-10 at the SWAT as they fall through the floor.]]

==Browning M2HB==
The National Guard jeeps are seen with [[Browning M2|Browning M2HBs]] mounted on top of them.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB - .50 BMG.]]
[[Image:TDKM2HB-1.png|thumb|none|600px|A National Guardsman mans a Browning M2HB. While too far away for confirmation, the helicopter appears to have a door-mounted [[M60#M60D|M60D]].]]
[[Image:TDKM2HB-2.png|thumb|none|600px|National Guardsmen man a Browning M2HB on the news report.]]

==Unknown Revolver #1==
One of Scarecrow's men at the meeting with the Russians is seen in the background with a revolver too far aware for clear identification.
[[Image:TDKrevolver-2.png|thumb|none|600px|One of Scarecrow's men to the right in the background is seen with an unknown revolver.]]
*It looks like a Colt Police Positive . - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 00:39, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

==The Joker's Grenades==
The Joker, a "man of simple tastes", favors his explosives. Mainly grenades. During the bank robbery, he brings a duffle bag filled with grenades including [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s, [[M26 hand grenade]]s, and [[M67 hand grenade]]s, which he primes in the bank goers' hands so they are forced to hold the primer handles on. No indication is made that these go off when the lobby is gassed following the Joker's escape. Later when facing the major mob bosses during their meeting, he manages to stop Gambol from attacking by revealing many of these grenades attached to the inside of his jacket, all stringed to the ring attached to his finger.
[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Mk 2 hand grenade.]]
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M26 hand grenade.]]
[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M67 hand grenade.]]

[[Image:TDK 4006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker opens up his bag of grenades to keep the bank customers busy.]]
[[Image:TDK 4004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker puts an M67 grenade into one of the bank customer's hands.]]
[[Image:TDK 4003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A bank customer nervously holds onto an M67 grenade. His hand is barely holding onto the primer handle!]]
[[Image:TDK 4007.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker puts an unknown gas/smoke grenade in the bank manager's mouth.]]
[[Image:TDK 4009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the Joker leaves, he attaches a wire to the grenade pin.]]
[[Image:TDK 6017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Joker reveals his coat filled with grenades including M67s, M26s, and Mk 2s.]]
[[Image:TDK 6019.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Ah-ta-ta-ta! Let's not *blow* this out of proportion."]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
Bruce Wayne ([[Christian Bale]]) is seen using a custom built automated gun built from a [[GE M134 Minigun]] to test bullet impacts on slabs of wall to test which type of round matches the bullet he found used by The Joker to kill a police officer.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:TDKM134mock-1.png|thumb|none|600px|Alfred ([[Michael Caine]]) examines a round to load into the Minigun.]]
[[Image:TDKM134mock-2.png|thumb|none|600px|Alfred loads a 30 round magazine to load in the Minigun.]]
[[Image:TDKM134mock-3.png|thumb|none|600px|Alfred loads the Minigun.]]
[[Image:TDKM134mock-4.png|thumb|none|600px|The Minigun automatically fires down the range.]]
[[Image:TDKM134mock-5.png|thumb|none|600px|The Minigun locks up.]]

==Batpod==
The Batpod is an autonomous vehicle salvaged from the Tumbler. It is equipped with mini-rocket launchers, machine guns and even two grappling hooks, notably used to bring down (or, actually up) The Joker's semi.
The mini-rocket launchers are used to clear automobiles immediately after the Batpod breaks off the Tumbler and to remove minor obstacles such as the alley garbage container. The grappling hook guns are first fired at the engine compartment of the semi and then trailing cables are secured around two street posts and then shot again to become anchored to the street. Note that this feat is next to impossible unless the initial hooks actually grab onto the semi's chassis. If they only hook onto the radiator, it would have come off instead of lifting the entire vehicle.

[[Image:TDK 5016small.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closer front view of the Batpod.]]
[[Image:Batpod-4.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|A closer view at the hardware...]]
[[Image:Batpod-5.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|...now with hooks open.]]

[[Image:Batpod-3.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|Batpod firing a mini-rocket to clear away cars.]]
[[Image:Batpod-2-1.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|Batman machine-gunning down a door he's about to go through.]]

[[Image:Batpod-1.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the batpod as Batman races to help Harvey Dent.]]

==Sticky Bomb Gun==
Batman uses a pump-action weapon to fire timed "sticky bombs" at the windows of Lau's building. He keeps the gun concealed and disassembled in the back of his utility belt.
[[Image:Bomb gun-1.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|Batman prepares to fire his sticky bomb gun at Lau's building.]]

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Talk:Tropic Thunder

2009-12-21T03:35:55Z

RedJedRevolver:

==Concern about images==

I am a bit concerned here.

On the one hand, it's great that we have screenshots of guns from the movie. On the other, they're obviously from a bootleg of the movie (since "Tropic Thunder" has yet to be released on DVD or Blu Ray). I am worried that if some studio Politburo member happens to be looking for bootleggers to harass, they might come by this site and see our images. And we might get in trouble.

Thus, I am sorry to say that I think it would be best if we take the images down for now. Of course, I will not do without democratic consent from my fellow admins. What is your opinion? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

::Then we might as we get rid of the images for Pineapple Express. Cause that's full of photos I took from a bootleg download. And then what about my Unit page? A lot of the recent pics are from episode's I downloaded from mininova. Does it count since it's a TV show? Cause I got a lot of photos that I painstakingly took watching every episode again

:::I explained to you since I made that post that I don't care about ones that exist already. Also, no I'm not so concerned about "The Unit", because Unit episodes are available any time from iTunes. My issue with Pineapple Express is that it's ''obvious'' that it had to have come from a bootleg because the movie isn't out on DVD yet, whereas The Unit is available on iTunes and DVD. That's all I'm saying. Don't post screenshots of movies that ''haven't been released on DVD yet''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

::::And I won't from now on. -[[User:Excalibur01|Ex]]

:::::The images from the UNIT or any television show is not an issue. It's been released already via television. What's to keep someone from DVRing the show and screen capping from that? It's obviously NOT a bootleg if it's been on TV. But bootlegs from theatrical release films should be avoided. I only screencap upcoming movies from trailers or clips that have already been released to the general public. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

==DVD==
I just bought this on DVD and if its okay can I screencap it on wednesday? -GM

==How's it look==
Did it come out alright? I need help with that CAR-15, but other than that, it looks pretty good. -GM

==The military advisor was probably in on it.==
Given the nature of this movie, I'd fully expect that not only was the military advisor in on it, he may have actively encouraged it.

"What's that? You want safe ways to look like a jackass while firing a gun? Hmm...give me about fifteen minutes. And a couple of beers." --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 21:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

: I understand that the advisor for the actual film was probably letting them kid around, but in the film within the film, they could have seriously used an advisor. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 01:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Taken from the main page. ==

:It is? Isn't that just the name of a custom airsoft gun? The M4 variant with the 11.5 inch barrel is called the "M4 Commando" on Colt's LEO web site, but those have the receivers with detachable carry handles; these guns have A2 receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::Okay, you have me with the A2 receivers, but the CQBR is real.

:::Yeah, you're right, it's a replacement upper receiver, and apparently one that the DoD has already adopted. Surprised I didn't know it was called that. But again, I don't think the gun in the movie is that. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

==AKM==
There is false information about Hanio and AKMs. The AKM(from wikipedia) was invented in 1959 and was used in the Vietnam War.
:They weren't given to the NVA since at the time of the Vietnam War the AKM was a new rifle in the Soviet Arsenal. So they gave the left over AK-47s to the PAVN.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

::Actually, the NVA started to receive the AKM in the late-60s, so some may have been used in the war. In the pictures of the Northern forces entering Saigon in 1975, the NVA troops were armed with AKMs. But they were definitely very rarely encountered in combat; the original milled-receiver AK-47s and Chinese Type 56s were the Kalashnikov variants used most heavily during the war. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:Do you have pictures of PAVN troops with AKMs?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:52, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:: I checked the list of weapons listed and the list tells me that they used [[AKM]]s and the AKMs were from Warsaw-pact contries and the Soviets. The Viet Cong also used leftovers from World War 2 such as the [[Arisaka Rifle#Arisaka Type 99|Arisaka Type 99]], the [[M1903 Springfield]], and the [[M1 Bazooka#M1A1 Bazooka(2.36 Rocket)|M1A1 Bazooka]]. The Viet Cong just didn't use AKMs that much due to massive productions of the [[AK-47]] and the [[Norinco Type 56]]. I think the movie incorrectly shows the Viet Cong heavily using AKMs. - [[User:Crysis|Crysis]] 17:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I can understand the Arisakas. But where would the Victor Charlie find M1903s? I don't think we sent Springfields to the french during Indochina.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
==AR-15==
The AR-15 was invented in 1958 so how is it inaccurate to have one in 1969? - [[Special:Contributions/98.234.121.159|98.234.121.159]] 01:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
*The AR-15 has 2 variants. The first one was used in the war while the second one was invented in the 1980s. - [[User:Crysis|Crysis]] 17:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Depends what Second variant you are talking about, Crysis. If you mean the CAR-15, then the only variant used in the Vietnam War was the XM177, those were heavilly used in the war by the US. The CAR-15 in the movie is an error though. It was only released to the public in 1973.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::The CAR-15 was never released by Colt to the public in any form that looked like the XM177 (i.e. they never released a version with a 'fake' flash/sound suppressor). The CAR-15 name was a marketing ploy for COlt to try to brand the AR line with the name COLT, but it didn't really stick and the U.S. Government only utilized the official Colt names, i.e. Model 609, 653, etc. They only released the SP1 sporter carbine which was a 16" barreled carbine version of the slab sided AR15 SP1 full length rifle in 1978. CAR-15/XM177 looking guns weren't available until third party manufacturers starting making them in the late 1970s/early 1980s after. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

==XM16E1==
By 1969 shouldn't the US be using M16A1's?
:Yes. However, the film they are making is one of those preachy war dramas. In other words, it's a shitty movie. The actors and director (Damian Cockburn) apparently know that.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

:You have to understand this is a movie about a movie that parodies a lot of Nam war movies. So the weapons themselves, might most likely be bad continuity would fit in with the parody theme. It's just more funny that way [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:51, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==The Gold Cup==
:Are y'all sure? Because in the lower screenshot it shows a .45 with vertical slide serrations, and to my knowledge The GCNM has never come with vertical slide serrations, only slanted.[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 03:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Lock 'n Load With R. Lee Ermey

2009-11-24T22:26:32Z

RedJedRevolver:

This on the run documentation is kicking my ass. My internet crapped for a second too, which was very inconveniant. Commercials help much for me. Episode one is almost done, then I do Episode two. Then after I finish, I'll give the page proper formating touch ups. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I guess episode two is ALL field artillery, which I don't document. I don't know it well enough anyway. I'll rewatch episode 1 at 1:00 to double check my work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I have the first episode of Lock N Load, but I like to tell you Gunmaster that if you see 5 M16A1 throughout this series, you put all the caps in on section not make 5 different sections like you did for Mail Call. I was looking through that and I lost count how many times I saw M1 Garand. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:10, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
::I will definately buy this on DVD whenever. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== It's The KING!!!!!! ==

Say hello to the king of imfdb. See Right now Mail Call is on 98 It's been two episodes and it's already half way to beating that 3 more episodes and it could be the king. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 18:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:Well it is a show pretty much about just gun and other munitions-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:34, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
::Mail Call's not really on 98 since I repeated lots of guns in seasons, so in reality this show's probably beat it by now anyway. But this show is all guns anyway, so it's no surprise. It was foolish of me to ever make a competition out of page making, so let's stop that king crap right now. I'll scour the Earth for this show on DVD though, I really wouldn't mind doing it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Alright, when I have a LOT of time, I'll do the caps. I have all the episodes SO FAR! [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

:An update on what I want to do here. I have the latest episode, but I'm just being a bit lazy to cap all of them. It's a lot of guns. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

==Glock 18C==
: When they show the Glock 18C shooting in slo-mo, it looks like its about to fall apart in Gunny's hand-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:38, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

==Rearrange category==
Rearrange page to categorize by type of gun? Or keep it the way it is? [[User: Ben41]]

If someone has the patience to do that, go ahead. I've had to rewatch 3 episodes of the Gunny loving the sound of his voice to get these caps. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

==The Gold Cup?==
:I know it says there was a box showing the name of the gun. But I cannot see said box in the screencaps. So I am wondering how it was identified as such. Just going form what's in the 'cap, it's lacking the sight rib (characteristic of the Gold Cup), has aftermarket trigger, rear sight, and has forward side serrations, ambidextrous safety, and lacks the guide rod under the barrel. Not saying it isn't possible those are mods done to a Gold Cup, but going from what's in the cap I couldn't positively Identify it as such. Not saying anyone's wrong, but it defeats the purpose if you say there's a box identifying the gun if you don't show the box don't you think?[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 22:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Far Cry 2

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RedJedRevolver: /* Captions */

== AR-15 ==
Based on the burst fire and Picatinny rail, it seems to be an M16A4

::No, an M16A2 is the the burst fire one. The rails is a bit weird. And there's some kind of odd carrying handle kinda like the one you see on FALs.

True, but the M16A4 is the M16A2 with the Picatinny Rail. If you don't believe me, check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16A4#M16A4

No, if it is burst with a picatinny, it's an A4. A2's have a fixed handle, and are full auto, while an A3 has a removable handle and full-auto.

::Sorry, I forget sometimes. Never seen an A4 in action, an A2 isn't full auto. It's burst. The A1 and the A3 are the only full auto M16s not counting the original M16s. The A3 doesn't have a removable handle. That's why the A4 was created, but they switched back to burst.

Both the M16A3 and A4 models have removable carrying handles and a rail; however, the A3 is Full Auto and the A4 is Burst.

No, the A3 doesn't have the removable carrying handle, the A4 is the only one with the removable carrying handle [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah Excalibur is right, A3's were FA but had an A2 carry handle, the confusion comes from some armorers have slapped A4 uppers onto A1 or other FA lowers.--[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

I've much wondered what this was, and I've come up with the following:
-M16A2 receiver and buttstock
-FAL handguards and carry handle
-Some sort of ACOGish scope--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 18:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:Typing AR-16 into wikipedia redirects to the AR-18 article. And the rifle's handguards don't look like FAL handguards. It does, however, have the FAL's carry handle.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

*This is largely why I haven't added a real gun picture to that section yet; I'm not sure if it's supposed to be an actual AR-16 prototype, an AR-18 or some sort of random M16A-something custom job. Similarly, I haven't done so for the Tranq rifle because I'm not sure if it's supposed to be a Remington 700 or an M40. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 07:42, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

**Now that you mention the AR-18, the handguards do like like those of an AR-18...--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 19:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, here's a shot of the reciever of the first one in the game:

[[Image:FC2-borkedAR.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

For your examination and identification. Also, I notice the selector switch is vertical, so apparently this is some weird safe-burst-auto configuration [or single is the third setting]. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 07:53, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edits Summary==
Made a few edits to the page, detailed here:
*For some reason the last four items were sub-numbered as 26.1 26.2 etc, despite those entries having nothing to do with item 26.
*Added info about the bonus machetes.
*Added info about the AR-16 and made "Armalite" the primary name as that's the one most commonly used.
*Added info about gold AK-47s.
*Minor typographical and spelling edits, e.g. "fortune pack".
*Some minor grammatical changes ("in the game" as opposed to "in game") to make the article consistent.

Hope these are ok. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] 02:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== New screencaps ==

I've uploaded a few now and I'm doing the rest later; I know there's an inverted colour band on the right of these, that's just a compatibility issue between my capture device and my PS3 I can't do anything about. I'll see about replacing all these with shots from the PC version when I get it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 19:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

*I'm currently downloading the PC version [legally, before anyone grrs at this] and I have a map of all the diamond locations, so I should be able to get all the weapons again fairly quickly. I'm planning to screencap all the misfires / jams and weapon failures as well, since some of them are interesting or amusing [the entire front falls off the USAS-12, for example]. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 17:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Screencap all the reloads as well.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Well, first thing I've found; in possibly the stupidest design decision ever, FC2 saves screenshots as 1-2.5 meg PNGs. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 20:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::If you don't have a screencap of you firing an large caliber rifle with the caption " In the words of [[Tim Colceri]], "[[Full Metal Jacket|Get Some!]]" well, let's just say that things will not turn in your favor.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::::It'll be a while before I can get my hands on an AS50 again [I recall there's a borked one in a mission, otherwise I'll have to wait until the South]. I will do so when it comes along, though. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 22:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::You can do it with an Machine Gun too. But it has to be an huge Machine gun.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::To reply to the above comment about--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 00:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC) gun failures, the ENTIRE front of the USAS just FALLS off, wow.
:::::As I recall, yes. I've only had the USAS blow up on me once, but I'm fairly sure it basically broke in half, the forearm, barrel and gas piston all coming away at the same time. I'll see when I get a new one. Getting shots of kBs should be easier on the PC version since I can quicksave before each shot. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 09:15, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
*Ok, done taking shots for tonight and about to switch PCs. Took 122 screenshots which wound up taking up 247 megs [!]. Now just need to pick out the good ones and get them uploaded. Won't have all the weapons today, but there's a good few of the missing ones I'm going to at least have something for. And those 122 include a lot of duplicates and hammering the screenshot button during reloads, so don't think they're all going in or anything silly like that. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 01:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
**There, that's all of them for now. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 04:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::There are still some guns missing. What happended to Tim though? He said that he would get screenshots of the jam animations. Also, the captions are way too funny. Good job Dongs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Tim is my login on my other PC since I forgot the password to this login. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 12:21, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:Shit, you could just write the password down or something.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::Anyway, the reason they're not all capped yet is I got the PC version - the older screencaps are PS3 captures which don't look as good, partly because my capture device is really only made for capping video, not high-quality stills. A run through the game takes a ''long'' time if you're trying to get all the weapons, so this article is going to be a while in the making; it's not like I have a set of existing quicksaves like Crysis or a devmode to quickly get the pictures like Far Cry. Plus I have to find good views to capture, since I'm not fond of videogame articles where the player is looking at the same thing in every shot [see [[Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix]] for a particularly good example of why]. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 12:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Also, put gun pictures on the sections. Thanks!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::::And take some pictures of the non-golden AK-47 and pictures of the FALs that are in good condition.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, there's one plain AK there now; a non-borked FAL will be a little while yet, you can't buy one until the second map. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 11:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::Why? Is there just one FN FAL? that's pretty weird if there is only one FAL.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The way it works is that there's an arms dealer. He's got a warehouse which has an infinite supply of brand new weapons as long as you've paid him to stock them, but first you have to do missions for him, and only half of those missions are in the North. So, some of the weapons stay locked until you reach the second map. Since ''all'' enemy weapons default to being borked, that means I can't get a new FAL until the second map. Same with things like the AS50, SAW, Carl Gustav and so on. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 11:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::Damm, Don't rush it. Just play the game. I can wait.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
== SPAS-12 and USAS-12 ==

Hard to believe, but Ubisoft messed up with both of these shotguns in Far Cry 2.

First off, the SPAS-12 is depicted as having a 12 round tubular magazine, which is obviously does not.

Second, the USAS-12 is depicted as only having a 12-round drum magazine, while it actually holds 20 rounds.

*I think they thought the '12' referred to the weapon's capacity rather than the gauge. Shame we didn't get a 37-round Ithaca out of that error. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 17:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Or a 107 round Barret .50

however, it could be balancing issues
is the SPAS more powerful in the game then the USAS?
i don't own the game so i don't know a lot about the particulars

The only difference between the SPAS and USAS is the rate of fire, as the USAS is fully auto and the SPAS pump. And yeah, a 37-round Ithaca would be cool to have.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 20:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

*It's hardly the silliest thing in the game, either. I've just got a wonderful screenshot of the reload for the Springfield. The caption will have to be "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?" [[User:Tim|Tim]] 21:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

*True, I always wondered about the box magazine on the Springfield.

**It's not even a box magazine, that would almost be sensible. He shoves a ''stripper clip'' into it. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 22:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

***Stripper clips you say? I always thought you could only reload a Springfield with single rounds at a time...--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 22:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::That's the only way that the M1903 can be reloaded. Also, the player puts the stripper clip on an hole in front of the trigger guard. Now that is fucked up.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

*Well, the non-sniper versions of the M1903 can be loaded with stripper clips [the A4 only can't because the scope is mounted directly over the action], but I'm not sure why the FC2 M1903A4 has a hole in the bottom to load through. I certainly don't know where they got the idea that you put the entire thing, clip and all, into the gun. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 23:03, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:I think they did that for gameplay reasons. Make the reload faster.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

::Yes, but it's odd to do that rather than use a bolt-action rifle that ''can'' reload by stripper clip, give the Springfield some kind of custom scope that leaves the action accessible, or just use a bolt-action with a detachable magazine. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 23:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Exactly, they could have used the M40, or M21, or any number of bolt or semi-auto sniper rifles with detachable mags.
::But i don't think Guerrillas in Africa would use M21s or M40s. But i don't think they use M1903s either.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

::True, while the M40 and M21 are a bit to expensive for them, I'd think the Springfield would be out of most any group's arsenal by now. I dunno then, what rifle should they use? Also, just found a pistol they should put in the next one or a DLC pack, the LAR Grizzly .45 Win Mag--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 00:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
: I would much rather have a S&W 686+P over a LAR-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::Me too. And about weapons used by guerrillas, i think Mosin Nagants would be used.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
: GOD NO! Shooting the Mosin should be punishment for criminals-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::you can have your revolvers, nothing beats a good automatic though. Then again, that S@W 500 is a beast...--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 00:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

==I love this game==
: I am a complete badass on this game. Every time I fire at the driver of a car, he gets one in the head even if I'm not really aiming-[[Special:Contributions/76.31.5.208|76.31.5.208]] 03:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)
::I don't think this game is really good but they got some awesome guns in it. They got a metric FN FAL AND an G3. how cool is that?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: Yeah and no Glock's, Berettta's or G36C's in sight-[[Special:Contributions/76.31.5.208|76.31.5.208]] 16:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)
::Now they only need is an AK-74 with wooden hand guards and wooden stock and an Jericho 941.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: Also a CZ-75, a Galil and a S&W 686+P-[[Special:Contributions/76.31.5.208|76.31.5.208]] 19:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)
::Yeah, we need more Galils in games. The Galil would be fitting since the i saw an report about how the Galil AR and ARM (Along with AK type rifles, FN FALs and G3s) were common in the hands of Janjaweed and other guerrillas in Darfur. I remember that most of the Galils had wooden Hand Guards as well.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:I would way rather have a 686 though-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::An 686 would make sense in the hands of the guerrillas. Guerillas like shiny guns.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: And it's reliable. I've had the casing of a .357 shell pop inside the gun without it having any negative effects-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

This was a pretty ok game to play, love the open world, but the problem is it takes you forever to get from one place to another, even with the bus and cars. Enemies respawn too fast and it takes have a mag to kill them. Your shots are never always true, but enemies' always hits you dead on or when you are sneaking. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
: Whoever your playing as must be a shitastic shot cuz I almost NEVER miss and kill everyone with an average of 10 shots with an assault rifle-[[Special:Contributions/76.31.5.208|76.31.5.208]] 04:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)
*I always found that while the gunplay is good, the map's too big for the ideas they had to fill it. It's like they sat down and said "what can we make the player do so they'll see all our work" rather than "what is the player going to want to do in our world," so things feel a little aimless. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 04:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
**I also found it very silly that while you can configure keys to have "Use" as "F," "Exit mounted gun" is always "E." I got stuck on a mounted gun before I figured that out. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 05:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
***All this talk about Far Cry 2 has made me wanna pop my copy out of it's case and play it again.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 19:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== Couple of mystery M16s here. ==

Found a magazine with a couple of M16s shown in it, was wondering if anyone has any idea on versions.

[[Image:FC2-M16s.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 09:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:The M16s could be anything since we can't see the receivers.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::The page on the left is actually a bunch of shots of lower recievers, but it is rather hard to make out. I'll see if there's one I can actually zoom in on somewhere. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 04:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== To the guy who posted the "Get some!" pic ==

Thanks alot man, that picture is simply epic.--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:08, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:I'm the one that made Dongs write that caption. I really love [[Full Metal Jacket]].-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::Well thanks for that, knew that quote was from the crazy door gunner.--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== AS50 jam and failure? ==
Can anyone tell me what the AS50s jam and failure animations are?--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 20:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
*I recall the jam is similar to the other sniper rifles; the weapon locks up with the bolt closed, leaving him yanking the stuck charging handle and turning the gun left and right (because, you know, that helps) until you prompt him to pull it firmly. I forget what the kB is, I'll have to find out. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 21:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
**Well, now I know [and have a picture]. The whole barrel comes off and flies ''backwards'' over the character's head. Seriously. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 22:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
***And there it is! [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 01:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
****Good god, it blows in half?!?! That's one dangerous rifle!--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 03:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
*****The silliest part is that kB animations trigger ''after'' firing (as opposed to jams which trigger before) and the AS50 has already cycled and ejected a casing when that happens. So either the rest of the magazine was full of extra gas pressure, or Frank needs to stop loading .50 cal sticks of dynamite into random mags. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 05:35, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
******Yeah, the, newfangled .50 caliber dynomite rounds are sure dangerous! But really, I tested out an AS50 on my second profile, and it still scares me how the barrel tries to crack you in the head--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
*Ok, I've just got the Tranq rifle kB. It has to be seen to be believed, I'll get on the other PC and upload it shortly. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 07:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
**And that's the update for today. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 09:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Suppressed Shotgun ==
(Just putting this here for future reference

Edit-This is NOT and 11-87, in the game it operates like a pump action shotgun, and has a safety on the TOP of the gun, instead of a cross-bolt safety found on Remingtons. Therefore there is no possible way that this is a semi-automatic 11-87.- RedJedRevolver
*Oh. I just went with what was already here until I could check up on it, feel free to change it if it isn't right. - Tim.
::It's fine, I'm not sure what it is. Could be some bastard Mossberg with that safety and that pump.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== IEDs ==

I'm probably going to add these at some point even though they're not a gun as such; it cycles between three, a mortar round, a land mine and a pipe bomb. Since one of them ''is'' a round from one of the other weapons I think they count for trivia purposes at least. Especially if I can also ID the land mine. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 10:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
==Mk.19==
Fuck that Chicom POS mortar. If you aim right you can totally use the Mk.19 as a mortar and actually HIT things with it.[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
*Indeed. I don't get why they went with such a silly system of using the mortar; at least giving the player *some* way to find range other than slowly lobbing an infinite supply of smoke rounds around at random would have been nice. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 01:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
**That said, in the PC version you can't ''miss'' with the mortar and it should just say 'press F5 to activate aim mode and F9 to adjust aim.' [[User:Tim|Tim]] 20:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Norinco Type 63 ==

While as far as I can tell this weapon exists, the internet will be ''damned'' if it has a picture of the thing. I therefore surmise that the Type 63 is invisible. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== Captions ==
Whoever did the captions... I love you. I laughed so hard. -protoAuthor
:It was Vangelis/Dongs/Tim. He is a genious.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 03:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::btw that caption about the "silenced shotgun", Mr. Identity crisis that charging handle layout is also on the 1100, and I think a few others as well.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:::Yeah, but I thought I'd just name one specifically that had that feature; the 11-87's 1100-derived so it's no surprise they both have similar layout, and the caption seemed awkward with both names in there. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 13:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Alright, it's fine, since no one can point on specifically which gun it came from one name is as good as any other.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== It's amazing the things you find out by accident... ==

I'm so damn proud of that chicken screenshot. I was just trying to blow it up for a funny demo of the bolt explosion, I had no idea it would do that. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

User talk:MoviePropMaster2008 (Archive)

2009-07-15T02:38:06Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Hey MPM */

Most of my uploaded firearms pics were photographed by me and thus offered for use by IMFDB with my permission.

BTW: Please IDENTIFY yourself when you leave a message. I shouldn't have to sleuth your identity through the Wiki/History page to figure out who asked what. ;) Thanks.
== RE Smith & wesson 916A ==
Yes definitely, I'd appreciate it :) --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
== Movie Firearms Functionality==
This is just a general question but do firearms that are converted for blank fire for use in film/tv etc are they still able to fire live rounds?
I was wondering because how apparently they cut a piece of the Glock off here I'm assuming because of blank usage or something. [[Image:DVglockload.jpg|thumb|600px|none]] --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
== AMT Automag ==
I created a new page for the AMT Automag as the Automag III and Automag IV are completely separate designs than the .357 Auto Mag pistol that I have had the luck to be able to examine. Also AMT was never involved in manufacturing the origional Auto Mag pistol. Basically they were useing the name for marketing purposes. I'm just giving my reasoning. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 18:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

As I don't have an form of Automag to examine again in person(of the three different models I have examined two were of questionable origin and the third was out of my pricerange). I have been looking up both the Auto mag and the AMT Automag Models. The Automag Mosels look to be based on Longslide M1911s rather than the AMC Automag. If you look at the control layout the AMC model and the AMT Models have vastly differety control setups.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Sentinel Arms Stryker==
Dear Sir,
I was wondering if you had any information about the Sentinel Arms Stryker that is shown on the Desparado page. I know it's an Armsel Striker varient but I don't know enough about it to say anything about it on the Armsel striker page. I've also seen a Striker Varient made by Penn Arms and i want to know what the differance is. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Wesley's Beretta==
Hi, I am requesting a picture of Wesley's Beretta 92S used in Wanted (2008). If you don't mind.[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==US Navy Mark 12 MOD X Special Purpose Rifle==
Hi I was referred by MT2008 that you may have access to a MK 12 SPR or a similar weapon. If you have access to an image to add to the Mk 12 SPR section of the M16 page that would be appreciated. The current image has a watermark and is a graphic from somewhere and probably copyrighted so It would be cool if that image could be replaced. thanks, -[[User:AdAstra2009]]

Well thanks for looking into it, I appreciate it -[[User:AdAstra2009]]

==YES!==

Thank you SO much! Those look great, and actually, they look very close to the ones that have appeared in quite a few movies. We can start replacing the two-tone SIG pics that we have on our other pages with these immediately! Again, I ''greatly'' appreciate you doing this for me. How will I ever repay you?

Out of curiosity, since you told me that they usually don't fit, how did you make them work together? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re: MP5A5==

Huh, that's interesting. I always figured Stembridge would have mostly -90 series guns that looked just like those "MP5s" that appear in so many productions they've rented to. Any idea why those HK94s were never converted further to make them look like more realistic MP5s? As my ''[[Air Force One]]'' page shows, Stembridge basically left those guns as-is well into the 1990s.

Thanks for the MP5A5 picture...I was actually close to replacing it myself (albeit with something from a Google image search). And yes, I'm sure more people than me appreciate them! At least, I hope so. You're pretty much the most important person we've got when it comes to gun images. I mean, how many sites out there get to have pictures of the same prop weapons used in many films?

==Thanks for the new pictures==

You've uploaded a lot of good pictures recently...I especially like the S&W 4506 and the SIG P220 Sport (is that the one from Cinema Weaponry that's appeared in several movies?) I thought of taking a picture of my own personal 4506 for a while, but gave up because I knew I couldn't take one as good as what you could do. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Thanks for the pics, they are great- Beeteles

==One other thing...==

I know I keep asking for stuff from you lately, but this time it's talk only.

I just finished working on the ''[[Air Force One]]'' page for this site. That movie features some type of short-barreled AK which looks just like the one from ''[[True Lies]]''. Here's a picture:

[[Image:AFO-shortyAK-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

The next time you talk to Harry Lu, would you mind asking him what these guns are and who owns them (Stembridge?) Thanks! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:==

The new pictures are really cool, as usual. I especially love the M16A1 with A2 handguards picture, because there are a lot of Hollywood movies featuring guns with that config, and it's great that we now have a picture to prove to our visitors how you sneaky armorers have deceived so many of us common folk action movie fans with those fake M16A2s! Haha, just kidding. Anyway, how did you get your hands on a Diemaco? Remember Al Vrkljan, the Canadian armorer who helped me out on ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)]]''? He told me that Diemaco/Colt Canada wouldn't sell any of their guns to his company or any civilian companies, so where did it come from?

Also, you brought up an interesting point on the ''[[American Gun (2006)]]'' page...as an armorer who works in the film industry, how do you feel about the anti-gun attitudes that seem so prevalent in Hollywood? Does it ever frustrate you and make you not want to rent your guns out to people who are so overtly anti-RKBA? I've always wondered how armorers feel about the people they work with.

Appreciate the effort on the Type 84 and two-tone P226 pics. Whenever you get a chance!

==What do you think...==

...of the article on the [[Colt Flare Launcher]]? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Trust me, I'm not offended. I respect and share your commitment to ensuring accuracy on this site, especially since you're obviously far more qualified to talk about guns in film (and guns in general) than I will ever be. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Oh, yes, and one other request...==

I have another request, this one a bit more unusual. I recently did a page for ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]'', which features a two-tone SIG P226 of West German manufacture that has a stainless frame and a regular black slide and barrel. It looks like the armorer just combined two existing guns to make it (since the two-tone P226s usually have black frame and stainless slide), and I'd love to have a picture of something identical for my page. So if you ever get out those two P226s that you photographed for IMFDB back in June, do you mind combining this:

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]]

..and this...

[[Image:SigP226Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]]

...to make this?

[[Image:2F2F-P226-10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:2F2F-P226-13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

...and then taking a picture of it for me? Also, if you put the slide and barrel from the stainless P226 on the frame of the black P226, you'd have a gun identical to the one from ''[[Face/Off]]'' which we could use for that page.

:Now THAT is news to me. I'm really surprised...finishes really make the fit of the parts THAT difficult? Wow. I don't think the gun above is a factory job because the two-tone P226s that SIG has sold are always black frame and stainless slide, not the other way around. Do you by chance know who supplied the weapons for ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]''?

:Thanks for the info, as always.

==Re: Back for a bit==

I do think you're right and that there are some SKS rifles in ''[[Platoon]]'' (which may or may not be Chinese Type 56 copies, for all I know). I own that movie on DVD, so as soon as I get back to my place, I'm gonna have to pop it in my laptop and watch again to be sure. Also, thanks for backing me up on the CAR-15 variants in the film - I was pretty sure they were 653s, and I know that particular model was exported in large numbers to U.S. allies during the 1970s (if you ever check out any Arab-Israeli war photos from the news, even today, you'll see many IDF personnel using them).

I was also suspicious of the "MAC-9" page, because I have never heard of that variant. On the other hand, I had no idea that the 9mm variant of the MAC-10 was called the "MAC-10/9"; I've usually just heard it referred to as a MAC-10. I figure "MAC-9" was just somebody butchering the spelling of "M11/9", which has appeared in lots of movies (I made the entry for that gun under the MAC-10 page myself, though someone else put down - inaccurately - that it was used in ''[[Blue Streak]]'').

Sorry to hear Josh Brolin broke a gun...indeed, how DO you bend a trigger guard? Then again, he's had some issues with the law lately, so maybe it's not too surprising. What film is he working on that required him to carry a Police Chief Special, anyway? Some period piece, I take it? I don't know how frustrating it is to be an armorer, but I can imagine...I mean, if you've rented out dozens of guns to one production, doesn't that make you lose your nerve to think how much those guns must be getting tossed around, even with armorers on-set to supervise their use? Also, remember when you sent me that picture of guns to ID from your vault? How many did I get right?

That's cool if you can get a picture of a Chinese Tokarev. Later. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Tokarev==

MP2008,

Nice to see you're back on the site! Hope you've seen some of GunMaster45's recent work (especially on ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' and ''[[Platoon]]''.

Anyway, I'm curious...do you by chance have a Chinese Type 54 copy of a Tokarev in your company's inventory? I ask only because I've seen those in quite a few movies, and I figure we should have a picture of one for this site. Also, I thought that only Chinese Tokarevs have the frame-mounted safety? I have little experience with them, but I thought I remembered reading that...please educate me if I'm wrong!

==Re: A pic and an update==

Good lord, is that what Heaven on Earth looks like? I can see (from left to right), an AR with a triangular forearm (M16A1 or AR15 SP1, I can't tell, but the selector appears to be on semi!), an FN MAG, an MP5A2 with slim forearm, a shorty AR with a 10" barrel, an AKM variant, an FN Minimi, a G36E, two AR carbines with what appear to be 14.5"+ barrels, what I believe to be an MG3 and an MG42, and then a PK or PKM. Behind the MG3, I see the barrel shroud of what might be an M1919, but I can't tell for sure. All I know is that I seriously hope my own safe looks like that...some day (as it stands, my GSA-imported Chinese AK is the only "evil"-looking gun I own).

As far as changing the pages...totally fine. I never intended to leave our conversations on there permanently...only long enough to make sure that the guns were properly identified. Of course, I'm quickly learning that you're usually right!

Sorry you've got so many guns to clean...I've heard stories about the way that blanks wear guns in comparison to live rounds, so I know how busy you must be! As far as replacement parts go, please replace that slim forearm on the MP5 (which I see has a tag). I've always found those slim forearms on ANY H&K long gun to be annoying because I can't get a comfortable grip on them; they're just way too narrow (and this is coming from a guy with pretty small hands!) I imagine anyone who has to fire hundreds of rounds out of that gun (until the director gets a satisfying take of an action scene) would also start to hate it.

Haha...thanks for the vault picture. Talk to you later. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Long-barreled AK under-folder==

Here is the gun from ''[[The X-Files]]'' I mentioned to you. Found these on a fan site for the show. They're not great quality, but you can see it pretty well:

[[Image:X-files-Type84-4.jpg|thumb|800px|none|]]
[[Image:X-files-Type84-3.jpg|thumb|800px|none|]]
[[Image:X-files-Type84-2.jpg|thumb|800px|none|]]
[[Image:X-files-Type84.jpg|thumb|800px|none|(This one is from a different episode)]]

It's clearly an under-folder, it has a long barrel, but it also has what appears to be a .223 mag. And it seems to have a hooded front sight in the first pic. Any idea what this might be? It's appeared in several episodes of the show from a couple of seasons, and I always thought it was a Type 84 under-folder fitted with the barrel from an RPK clone. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Mike Sudrow is listed on IMDB as having worked on a few episodes of ''[[The X-Files]]''. Since the show lasted so long (nine years), I imagine they probably had many, many different armorers depending on the season/filming location.

::As far as Canadian armorers go, Al Vrkljan of Movie Armaments Group was on here a couple months ago. He corrected me on the ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)|Incredible Hulk]]'' page by telling me that, interestingly enough, Diemaco/Colt Canada won't sell its weapons to film armorers in Canada! He also told me more about those mystery grenade launchers we were discussing earlier, plus he updated the page with more guns that I had missed. I really hope he comes back; he said he might be able to get some pictures of the launchers for us.

::No worries on the ''[[Heat]]'' stuff, although I think you actually mean Gunmaster45, not me. As far as buying handguns go, I have yet to even try it in my home state (NC) because I live in Orange County and you have to get three "references" (people who are county residents) to apply for a purchase permit at the sheriff's dept. Sadly, Chapel Hill is full of overly-liberal people whom I wouldn't be comfortable asking to sign my permit application, so I've never bought a pistol here even though I'm of age - I've just inherited pistols from my grandfather. Ah, well, maybe if I wind up re-locating to Texas for this new job, I can finally buy that SIG P226 I've always wanted... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:Re:Sahara==

Thanks for going so far out of your way to get the photo of the Type 84 with the AKM-style sight...I realize it must have been a hassle! However, I wasn't saying they put an AKM sight on a Type 84; I simply thought the front sight itself indicated the gun was a Type 84 because my eyes suck and it looked hooded to me from that perspective.

As far as the source goes, I believe Crowntower Limited supplied the weapons that were used in ''[[Sahara]]''. I say that based on a couple of deductions: Sascha Robey was one of the armorers who worked on ''[[Casino Royale]]'' as well as ''[[Sahara]]'', Crowntower is listed in the credits of ''[[Casino Royale]]'' (but not ''[[Sahara]]'') as the weapons supplier, and finally, if you look at our ''[[Casino Royale]]'' page, the AKs in that film top look identical to the one in ''[[Sahara]]'' that we were talking about. Perhaps this Sascha Robey rented the same guns for two films.

==Re:Sahara==

A lot of what you've said makes sense...BUT, there's still something bugging me about the third screenshot. Either my eyes really suck, or that is still a Norinco-style sight in that shot. HOWEVER, the first screenshot does, admittedly, show what appears to be a standard AKM-style front sight. Compare:

[[Image:ComparisonSaharaAK.JPG|thumb|800px|none|]]

I'm also confused because I have seen Type 84s fitted with mags that LOOK like the Romak mags, even if they aren't, like the one in the picture I posted. Anyway, is it possible that they used two different weapons for this "hero" gun use, and one was a Romak (or whatever) and the other was a Type 84 re-styled to look more like the Romak?

BTW, I didn't correct that typo; Gunmaster45 did. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Oh, yeah, and the screens are really cool. As far as people's sudden interest in ignored pages, I guess it has to do with the fact that once they see somebody's worked on it in the "Recent Changes" section, they glance at it, and then they're more likely to spot mistakes they didn't see before.

:OK, you know what? My eyes ''do'' suck! I just stood way, way back from my monitor and squinted, and now I see that it's not a hooded Norinco sight; it's just the angle makes it appear circular. You are right; it can't be a Type 84, or anything that uses Type 84 parts. And I'm guessing that also means I could be wrong about the ''[[Casino Royale]]'' AKs, too.

:It's kinda strange, though...I wouldn't have figured British armorers would use civilian AK variants that were essentially geared towards the U.S. firearms market.

==I, Robot SMG==

Excellent, I'm glad to see you found the scene in ''[[I, Robot]]'' where it shows a close-up of the SMG's receiver and the Spectre's safety is visible. I was beginning to think my memory had failed me and that I was wrong...but I remember seeing this movie in the theater, on the big screen, and seeing that exact same image in your screenshot. Immediately, I thought to myself, "Spectre M4!" Actually, only a few months before the movie came out, I was at a gun show where one of the dealers had the semi-auto carbine version on his table...probably how I recognized it so quickly!

BTW, I believe the trigger and pistol grip are one unit on the Spectre. It looks to me like the armorers who worked on ''[[I, Robot]]'' just removed it and added that PSG1-style grip, but never bothered to put on a replacement trigger guard. - [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==M70==

Hi,

Do you think we should really have a separate page for the [[Zastava M70]], instead of just putting it under the [[AK-47]] page, as we did for the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Type 56]]? - [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:I see your point. However, my personal criteria is that we should keep all conventional 7.62x39mm AK-type assault rifles on one page. Although the M70 series are by no means straightforward AK-47/AKM copies (due to the ladder sight and the mix of stamped receiver with traditional AK layout, like on the Type 56), they are still basically pretty conventional rifles, as opposed to say, the Norinco Type 86 or the Saiga and Vepr series. I feel it'd probably be better to keep the M70 on the [[AK-47]] page, especially since I haven't seen any movies yet that feature weapons like the M76 or M77. This is, of course, sort of a gray area and one of the biggest problems with this site, IMO.

:Also, I feel compelled to point out...there's an episode in ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' where "Russian" soldiers are actually seen using M70Bs and Type 56s, which is of course ridiculously inaccurate (the episode takes place in the present-day Chechen conflict).

==RE: RE: Studio Weapons==
You more than answered the question, thank you. I have seen some pictures of places that do the rentals and, frankly, privately list them as places I would most want to work. ''"No we don't have a .50 cal minigun on the shelves but I can check in the back."'' Once again thanks for the info and for the earlier compliments. Incidentally, I am working on a new one..."Farewell to the King" (1989)..should have it ready in a few days.

Do studios still keep their own "arsenals"? I was given the impression that most, if not all, firearms for movies were in the private sector.

== RE: Images ==
No skin off of my nose what images you use mate. Fact of the matter is, when you boil it down, pretty much all the images we are using on here are not "legal". So which ones you use, from whatever site are ok with me. Frankly, as far as I go, I try to only use images which do not have another web site's watermark on them.

==RE:==

First of all, cheers for the update on the Type 84 picture. There's no hurry; I understand if it takes a while to get the appropriate mags (since obviously, a Type 84 doesn't look very different from a Type 56 without them).

Second, while I don't speak for everyone on here, I can say that I personally do not have any problem with you replacing pictures of guns on this site (even those that I uploaded) with any that you took. Nor do I see why anyone else would. The only reason I can imagine anyone getting offended would be if they went to the same effort you do to get the guns and photograph them on their own. But pretty much everyone else on here just uploads pictures they copied from other gun sites, in some cases ''airsoft'' web sites (like that picture we used to have of the SP89, which was just an airsoft MP5K fitted with an SP89 handguard from DenTrinity; terrible!). And it doesn't take much time or effort to copy and upload someone else's work.

Additionally, your gun photos are obviously of superior quality to anything else on here, and they're of guns that have actually appeared in movies (possibly the same movies as the pages they're on), so as far as I am concerned, there really isn't any reason why we can't replace any existing photos of guns with the ones you've taken. In fact, I would encourage you to ''not'' be so timid in the future when it comes to replacing photos. If you want an example of what I mean by this, take a look at the [[Armalite AR-18]] page. Your AR-18 picture is way better than any of those on the page, so I don't see any reason why you can't just remove some of the others (maybe keep ONE of the other photos of the gun with the scope, and even that could be replaced if you took an equivalent picture).

One thing I will point out, though: I have sometimes used pictures on my pages that are from the web site of Rick Washburn's company Weapons Specialists, Inc. (http://www.weaponspecialists.com/index.php). They provided the guns for ''[[I Am Legend]]'', so the page for that movie now features pictures of the guns used in the film that I copied and uploaded from them (including the tan-framed Mark 23). In cases like that, I'd prefer those particular photos stay up (you'll know them because I always provide links and info mentioning where they're from) because they feature the actual movie guns, and they're decent quality. Besides that, I don't have any problem with you replacing any and all photos of guns on this site with yours.

==Chinese Type 56==

First of all, I GREATLY appreciate the photo you took of one of the ''[[Goldeneye]]'' AKs for me. I didn't know you had access to any British armories?

However, I have one question: Do you think it's really appropriate to classify the Chinese Type 56 rifles with stamped receivers as "AK-47" and "AKS-47" clones, as opposed to AKM/AKMS derivatives? I realize that the Type 56s with stamped receivers lack just about all of the other features of the AKMs (including the muzzle break, ribbed receiver cover, rate reducer, grip rails, narrower front sight, etc.), but I've usually heard them described as AKM copies simply to distinguish them from the earlier milled-receiver versions. I know this is an over-simplification of sorts because the Type 56s aren't really orthodox AK-47s or AKMs (they're more like a weird hybrid version), but I figured it would be more appropriate.

:Well, I would say I know the differences between the two. I must point out that I own a Chinese AK (mine was imported by Golden State Arms and simply has 'AK47S 7.62x39mm - Made in China' stamped on the receiver). I was simply curious whether the presence of a stamped receiver on the Type 56 made it worthy of being designated an AKM variant or not.

:Personally, I think the best bet might be to literally just create a new sub-entry for the Type 56 under the [[AK-47]] page and then we can focus on finding any and all movies that feature the Type 56 and putting them under there. This would reflect best the fact that the Type 56 is sort of a weird hybrid AK-47/AKM with distinctly Chinese characteristics (such as the hooded front sight), which most other AK derivatives (like the Maadis) don't have.

::Haha, no offense taken, just wanted you to know I'm not a complete newbie when it comes to AKs, though obviously you completely blow me out of the water. Anyway, I would definitely appreciate the Type 84 pic whenever you get a chance. Not sure if there's anything else I need at the moment...but I would strongly encourage you to just take pictures of whatever you can get your hands on. As I've said, it's really great that we have you because this site is full of pictures that are copied from sites like world.guns.ru or (in some cases) AIRSOFT websites (i.e. the SP89 picture that we used to have before I replaced it).

::BTW, these are some incredible pics you've gotten us lately, moreso than usual. How on earth did you get that Romanian AIMS from "44 Minutes"? Do you know Thell Reed, too? Also, I'm going to do a LITTLE bit of additional work on the [[AK-47#Type 56|Type 56]] entry, and I think I'm also gonna ditch the AKS-47 one for now (simply because there don't seem to be any movies I'm aware of that have actual milled-receiver Russian AKS-47s or close copies) and move all the Type 56-1 entires down. If you disagree, you can revert (or partially modify) the edits and I won't mind. Also, good work on the [[RPG-7]] article getting the Type 69 mentioned (it's something I wanted to do myself - mostly because "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" also has a Type 69).

==Re: Editing Dogs of War==

Thanks for the info. I've seen those guns in a whole bunch of movies and I always wondered what they were, who made them, and why. I think they've also appeared in a couple episodes of ''[[The A-Team]]'' and a Chuck Norris movie or two.

I have some great screenshots of the fake Uzis which I took for my ''[[Raw Deal]]'' page (I've been meaning to work on it for ages, but so far, I just never have managed to get around to it). Here they are:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-59410.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

[[Image:Vlcsnap-59747.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

== Re: image ==

Sorry for the mixup. Feel free to replace the image with a better one if you have one handy. It's good to have a professional armourer on the site to help out, you've been doing some good work so far. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 10:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Contact? ==

I was wondering, is there any way we could chat off-site? I'd enjoy the opportunity to talk with you about your work as an armourer and about some various weapons and films. My contact info can be found on my user page. I hope to hear from you soon, and wish you well. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Red Dawn ==

OK, I was simply confused because I thought you were saying that the Egyptians didn't call the full-auto version they made for their armed forces the Misr, which would contradict almost every book and web site on AKs I've read. You obviously know far, FAR more than I do, so I think it's perfectly fine if you want to edit the page to refer to the guns as Maadi ARMs. Perhaps it might also be reasonable to put in a note that the ARM is the semi-automatic version of the Misr or something? Also, please post the picture of the "Red Dawn" AKM you took.

Appreciate your contributions, and (especially) your photographs. It's really cool that we have somebody like you on here. Do you by chance have any pictures of the Norinco/Poly Tech AKs that the rental armories purchased in the 80s? A long, LONG time ago, somebody put one of them up for sale on GunBroker; I wish I had saved the picture. I'm also curious to know if you have pics of the Norinco Type 84...I've been trying to get a good one to add to the ''[[Casino Royale]]'' page and my ''[[Harsh Realm]]'' page for a while now.

:Wow, thanks! Yeah, I'd prefer the basic fixed-stock configuration since the ones in ''[[Casino Royale]]'' and ''[[Harsh Realm]]'' seem to have that (except the wood on the CR guns looks like it can't be factory), but I wouldn't encourage you to go TOO far out of your way, as I recognize you must be really busy.

:Which armory is it that you have access to?

==Re: My two cents on the Hulk Launchers==
Yeah, I think you're probably right...it looks to me that the armorers were shooting for an M32 look but couldn't get the real deal, so they took civilian launchers (most likely DefTech) and modified them heavily. I notice that there seem to be a lot of 37mm launchers which are depicted as HE grenade launchers in movies (i.e. Colt 37mm Flare Launchers substituting for M203s). I guess this is another case of the same deal.

Sure, you can re-post the CZ99 pic. It isn't "mine"; I took it from world.guns.ru, which is where many of the photographs of guns on this site come from (as you can imagine, that's why I'm happy to have someone like you who is willing to give us original photos, especially when they're of actual movie guns).

== Thanks ==

[[The Dogs of War]] was one of my first "efforts" here. I knew, already, that you saw a guy running around with a [[MAC-10]] during the weapons training phase but did not know there was one of those cheesy ass "fake" [[Uzi]]s. Oh, the same goes for the Car-15s.

Incidentally, I forget what movie I saw it in but there was a fake [[Uzi]] in it and the foregrip on it was rotated so that the front sight was actually pointed downward!!!

== Hey ==

Hey MoviePropMaster, I'm Alienqueen11, and I seen the images you have uploaded, and they're great. I also want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload a picture of a [[Remington 870]] with Ghost Ring Sights and a High Capacity Tube like the one in the screenshot below for the [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] page, I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for complitementing my knowledge on guns, I also reverted a version of one of your MP5 pictures because someone copied over it with an airsoft image, I really wish some people would checked the thing while they're uploading an image to make sure the name isn't already used to avoid mistakes like this. And once again, thanks for your contributions and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11.

== Heartbreak Ridge M16's ==

I just saw ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' on TV this afternoon, and all the [[M16 rifle series|M16]]'s I saw on-screen were the A1 variant, complete with bolt-forward assist buttons at the rear of the upper recievers. Even saw one fitted with an [[M203 grenade launcher]] used by one of the Recon Marines under Gunnery Sergeant Highway's command.

[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904
- He might want to look at my page and see they weren't ''all'' M16A1s.

==Question==
[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]: Hi, I was just wondering how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect? My other question is that on the [[Hollow Point]] page I made recently, did I get the AK varient right? I figured I'd ask you as you seem to be the AK pro on the site. Thanks.
(My list of pages is on my profile if you feel like checking any of my other work as well.)

==M14 rifle==
I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great, is there any chance you could take some good shots? The pictures now are blurry, or black and white.

==37mm Launcher==
Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM

::I built the colt launcher page based on what MT said, but your input greatly helped it. It's a shame taking professional pictures is so complex. The best I have is photoshop and an erase brush. I have a Norinco Type 54 pistol and I wanted to put pictures of it on the site soon. I'm not bad with editing, it should come out okay. I just need to find the time to do it. The M14 rifle pics came out great, let me know if you get your hands on an M21. I'll have plenty of films to be corrected in the future, my to do list touches the sky. One or two every friday or saturday. Stay cool. -GM

==Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon"==
:Here's a tricky task, do you think you could find a Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon"? Aparently it is what John Practice uses in [[Last Action Hero]] according to user input, and I can't find a good picture of it. Until I do find a good picture, I'll have to keep my horrible AR-24 picture I had on their before. If it isn't a Bren 10 PF, I'd assume you of all people would shoot me straight.
[[Image:StarMegastarLastActionHero.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the picture of him with the Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon". His is a tutone model, but I'm not that picky. If both can be had, it would make a nice page in the Bren 10 gun section.]]
==M1911/M1911A1==
::I apoligize for asking one more thing of you, but the M1911 and M1911A1 pistols are infamous works of art in the firearms world, commonly used in films. We got a repro M1911 picture (modernized), a Springfield M1911A1 (when Colt M1911A1 is the genuine picture desired), another M1911A1 with pachmyr grips (better than springfield, but see how it sticks out on Platoon? It's ''too'' modern) So is their any chance you could find a genuine (or prefered, an ''authentic'' reproduction) of a Colt M1911 and Colt M1911A1 to snap some shots of, that would be awesome. I trust you know them apart, your a pro. Thanks. Good luck. -GM

==Re:Last Action Hero==
I saw [[Last Action Hero]] when I was young and loved it. Now, it is still one of my favorites. I like how it makes fun of action movies, by showing how Arnold can fire a billion rounds from a Desert Eagle and cars just explode for no reason. I'll fix those problems you mentioned. Your saying they are more likely civilian TEC-9s instead of TEC-DC9's? What physical traits help determine this, just the sling? And they were firing full-auto so they were probably converted.

== Hi! ==

Still no replacement grip for the M70?

Shame, it looks strange with that grip - I'm used to seeing them on M76s and M72s... which reminds me: about that mystery long barreled AK - I know that Crvena Zastava makes under-folder RPKs, namely the M72A (7.62 - based on M70), and the M90A (5.56 - based on an assault rifle of the same designation). The under-folder RPKs (those with an "A") have removable bipods (the standard, solid-stock ones have fixed), so w/ the folding stocks and w/o bipods they would look like those mystery AKs, no? Also, one more improtant fact: unlike the Yugo AKs (which have 3 holes), the Yugo RPKs have TWO holes in the forward grip (like the original AKs). http://pookieweb.dyndns.org:61129/Yugo/pics/m72a.jpg

I hope this was hepful, keep up the good work!

== Request ==

I'm sorry to ask, but if you get the chance, can you upload a [[Beretta M92F|Beretta M92FS]]? I know the ones on the site are already good enough, but I want to see how great one by you would be. I know you're already busy, so don't do it if you're too busy, and if you can't upload it, it's okay. Anyway, welcome back, the new pictures for the M16 and M14 are great. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== RE:870 ==

I think you're right about the Mossberg sights on the 870, they seem to match those on the Mossberg more then anything.

Here the picture I had on the page when I thought his shotgun was a Mossberg 500:
[[Image:Mossberg500.gif|thumb|none|335px|[[Mossberg 500]] 12 ga. with optional ghost ring sights.]]

And this is the image I have on the page now, seeing it now, they look nothing like the sights in the screencap:
[[Image:870p.jpg|thumb|none|335px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with magazine extention tube and ghost ring sights.]]

And it looks like the armorer must have put the Mossberg sights on the Remington:
[[Image:DotD Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

Hope this helps, and thanks for the favor, I appreciate it. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Done ==

Don't worry, he won't be able to edit again, if it happens again, I'll be sure to make so only registered users can edit the [[Commando]] page. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==Karabiner 98k sniper rifle==
:I recently noticed while working on the [[Saving Private Ryan]] page that we have no sniper rifle varient Kar98k rifle pic. I've noticed you [[Enemy at the Gates]] page is in need of this picture as well too. I apoligize for adding yet another gun to your to-do list but just let me know if you find one. -GM45

==Re: FINALLY==

Excellent! I already have a use for the 870 folder, too - just put it on the ''[[RoboCop]]'' page (which features an identical weapon). And thanks for the UMP-45 and the Gen 2 Glock-17 as well! There are so many movies that feature Gen 2 Glocks, yet all we have is that stock picture of a Gen 3. When I get back to my place later today, I'm going to start using your Glock in every movie page that features such a gun.

Also...that AR15A2 you photographed; can we consider it an M16A2? Is it converted to auto or burst? We really need a good M16A2 picture, because the one that appears throughout the site is yet another crappy airsoft picture.

==RE:==

Hmmm, I'll have to see. There's lots of loose women and great beer over here in Texas that I ''might'' be able to offer you, but the gold's gonna be hard to come by! Haha.

Thanks yet AGAIN for the improved two-tone P226 picture. Weirdly enough, I completely failed to notice that the one in ''[[Face/Off]]'' had a silver hammer until you pointed it out. But it's great that you have a better eye for detail than I do, and moreso that you corrected it. And, of course, thank you for answering my questions about movie guns to the best of your ability. I think your idea for a 12-gauge pump page is perfectly useful, though I must point out that if it can't be categorized, it's gonna be hard for other users to find it. In order to make sure people see it, please add links to it on pages for the shotguns it distinguishes from each other. That would be the best way to make sure your word gets out.

Hope you don't mind, but I've already shown your SIG pics on SIGforum.com to draw attention to our site. I'd show your H&K pictures on HKPRO forum (where I also post), too, if their forum wasn't down every other minute. I dunno if you post on any other gun-related boards, but if you do, show off your pics and point folks to IMFDB. The more attention, the better. We've already got 55,000 views from the ''[[Heat]]'' page (which features your P220 and M16A1 pictures, among others), so spread the word and more people will discover the beauty of IMFDB with its original movie gun pictures, taken by an actual movie armorer!

Oh, yeah, and I will respond to the topic of vandals on Bunni's talk page shortly. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:Dibbs==
Feel free, one less thing for me to do. I only ask that you keep the bow and knife on the page so it fits the other two. I'll eventually add them to [[Rambo (2008)]] so that one fits as well. If anything I'll likely just add some shots like I tend to do. Thanks for asking me and not just doing it. Can't wait to see it. -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]
::Almost forgot, MT2008 may have asked already but we really need a Poly Tech Legend AK pic.

:::Nope, I forgot, too! Yeah, it wouldn't be a bad idea. I've been looking for one on Google image search, but no go on any good ones. Also, speaking of AKs (and here I go again making your request list longer), a new AKM pic would be nice. Not to sound unappreciative, but I tend to shy away from the one you took just because the red stock looks out-of-place and ugly, plus the magazine is the plastic type rather than the ribbed type. If you can get a picture of one of the Maadi AKMs with the right stock, plus a metal ribbed-style mag (which is more the "classic" style, if you will)...great. If not, no worries. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:Casino Royale==

Yep, that's the exact same picture I looked up to remind myself what an M76 was. Actually, I think I always thought that the M76 just referred to their long-range rifle, and I didn't remember that their smaller-caliber AKs were called M76. But I did know off the top of my head that it couldn't be Zastava because their full-sized AKs always have the folding GL sight, and the ''[[Casino Royale]]'' AKs don't.

BTW, any idea what's wrong with the [[Taurus PT92]] picture you gave us? I just put it on the page for ''[[The X-Files]]'', and now it's disappeared. A search of the page history indicates no act of vandalism.

Oh, yeah, and one other thing: I never thanked you for getting that Australian Automatic Arms carbine picture for ''[[The Matrix]]'' page. So...thanks! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== DotD 870 ==

I don't mean to bug you, but did you have any luck with the Dawn of the Dead Remington 870, and did the message I sent you about about the sights help at all, please let me know. Also excellent work lately, The new Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 pictures are great, and so are the many other pictures you uploaded lately, I really like the two tone Sig P226s you got for MT2008, those are one of kind. Good luck, and keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:10, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Kelly's Heroes==
I was aware they were using FN BAR type D 8mm guns instead of american .30-06 BARs but I didn't know they were using the wrong mag pouches. Thanks for the info. -GM45

==Re:M1911 pistols==
The 1911 pictures are absolute perfection. The M1911 from 1913 looks great. I have one from 1913 too and yours puts mine to shame. Thanks very much. -GM45

:And thanks for the P38, too! Feel free to just delete the one that's been on the P38 already, and insert your image into any and all movie pages featuring P38s. I've been replacing old gun images on many pages with your new gun images (i.e. the Glock you uploaded earlier in the week). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Re: Beretta M92FS ==

It looks excellent, I don't mind an American made Beretta, an Italian made one isn't too different, is it? If you come across an Italian one in the future, you can upload that, but you don't have to, like I said, I like the new one as it is. Thank you soo much for the favor, you never disappoint.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

==Thanks for the USP!==

I was thinking of asking you for a USP pic, but figured I should hold off on it, just to prevent you from getting bogged down.

As you can tell, we're embarking on a campaign to replace any and all older images of guns taken from other sites, with the pictures you've uploaded. I'm also curious...what would you think of a page dedicated to explaining the importance of your gun images to new users of the site, and featuring examples of your work? It would be linked from the main page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Should cartoons be allowed? ==

I want to know if it is either no one cares about the fact that cartoons like Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and recently South Park had been allowed to this site. I have don't think these pages should exist because do you think about the rare guns that appears on those shows and wonder what they are? Cause I sure don't. I'm too busy laughing my ass off to how funny these series are, not wondering if the shotgun Homer used in the Zombie episode was a Winchester Model 1887 or that it never appeared in any other episode following. I don't care and I dont think anyone else should care. We're getting cartoon fanboys that thinks just because Family Guy has an episode where Stewie has a closet full of look alike guns, means we should write a page about them. Those guns are not the point of the show and the artist that drew them obviously didn't take much consideration for them or mention. I think Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and South Park be removed at once. None of them deserve to be on this site. And whoever puts them here doesn't respect this site enough.
::That's a little harsh. I added some of the info on those pages, thank you. I was eventually going to do the South Park movie, because it does in fact have some pretty obvious guns in it. Personally I think they shouldn't be removed but if they are to stay, someone should take the time to screencap them and show us what they are talking about. -GM45

==Reign of Fire==
I just finished screencapping [[Reign of Fire]] and before I upload them on the page, I wanted to see if you knew what this gun is. Based on what I see I'm assuming it is a .577 Nitro Tyrannosaurus Rex rifle built personally by the Mauser company's greatest gunsmiths based on the Mauser rifle type extractor/bolt release and the Mauser style firing pin striker seen on the gun. At first I thought it was a Model 70 or a Mauser sporterized and then they show what big ass rounds he loads in it so now I just don't know. I figured of all, you'd likely know best. Also, if it is a T-rex rifle, I'd likely need a picture of it because as usual, the internet sucks for finding gun pics. I know this gun is rare but so is the .600 Nitro double barreled rifle, but that is seen in [[The Lost World: Jurassic Park]] despite that. I'm not expecting a picture from you because I know how rare and expensive it is but I figured if it ever came up I could count on you.

Here's the pics:
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|His rifle resting up against the table.]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the extractor/bolt release and Mauser style striker.]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This scope symbol looks familiar, what brand is this?]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Look at the monstrous rounds he loads it with. Only two fit in the gun! They look like either .577 or .600 Nitro rounds.]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|He fires the rifle at the big bull dragon, which does nothing and tosses it away after two shots.]]

Hope you respond soon. -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]
::I've decided to upload the movie tommorow to give you more time to respond. -GM

: I didn't expect you'd have one, after all it isn't a mass produced company gun. Major members of the Mauser company make it customly crafted. You'll see it all on the page in a sec. Also, the pic I uploaded I had to edit so it was horizontal and since it had 4 whited corners after turning it, I had to clone the corners in. Once you know, it is far more obvious to tell where I edited.

==Re: New Pics==

What I meant is that I want to make sure people on this site see how thorough you are, and how accurately you match guns to requests. Remember that AR15 Sporter that you visually modified to look like an XM177 from ''[[The Dogs of War]]''? Or the two SIG P226s you made to look the ones in ''[[Face/Off]]'' and ''[[Bad Boys II]]''? Those are the kinds of gun pics that I want to show off to new folks. What I would do is just make a page that briefly explains your contributions, and then shows guns you've photographed and how close they are to those in the movies. This is an unformed idea, I admit, but basically, I want people browsing this sight to understand (1.) That your images are exclusive to IMFDB, and (2.) That they're basically close representations of what those users have seen in movies. I know I'm not being terribly articulate, but do you understand what I mean?

And don't worry about replacing previous pics with your pics. The rest of us will continue to do that for you, as we've been doing. So far, we've pretty much replaced all of the old M16s, M4s, Berettas, Glocks, Kar98s, MP40s, etc. with your guns. I think I'm gonna start putting your USP pic on our pages, too (except those that feature the larger .45 variant of the USP, like ''[[Collateral]]'').-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==AK-47 recognition page==
Now that you've made a Shotgun page, why not make an AK page to tell a Norinco from a Maadi from a genuine, from a poly tech, etc.
Also, maybe an M16 page for slab sides, A1s, A2s, etc.
It would probably help the users out a lot. I'm sure the shotgun page did. Personally, I have trouble telling a Norinco Type 56 aside from its hooded sight. Perhaps a couple of close ups of sight placement, recievers and all that will make me a more efficient I.Der. -GM45

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, MPM2008, I uploaded some more shots of Ving Rhames' shotgun in [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] if you want to take a look, it's in the Custom Remington 870 section of the page. Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Hey, MPM2008, do you want me to put protections on your images so no one can revert them if they've been upload over with images from the internet in the past, or upload over them? I'm asking this because some user keeps uploading a crappy picture from the internet over your H&K USP40 image. And if you want, I could ask Bunni to make you a mod or I can take the protections off them whenever you want to edit them or upload a new version of them. Let me know what you want to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Update: I protected all your images, and I also asked Bunni to make you an adminstrator so you can upload new versions of or revert them if want. If you not made an admin right away, just tell me what image you want to access, and I'll unlock it for you. I'm sorry I had to do this, but I wanted to prevent idiots like the guy who kept uploading over your H&K USP40 from changing your pictures, and I promise, if I ever get the ability to block users back, I will undo the protections. See you soon and good luck.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:Made you a mod, enjoy. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 22:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Response ==

Thanks, I will always make sure your images stay the way they are. And I didn't understand that user either, I told him politely a bunch of times to stop, but he wouldn't listen. What really intrigues me most is how somebody could prefer a crappy image they probably found on Google Images over an excellent well photographed image such as yours. As for being a mod, congratulations, but I most warn you that the block function is not working at this time, but Bunni is trying his best to fix it, but you will be able to delete any pages or images you don't want, and you will also be able to protect pages. And if we ever get the ability to block back, that one user is going to be the first on my list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

As for the 870, take as much time as you need to, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait when it's uploaded. I will also have more requests in the future, but I won't bother you with them right now. And I also I have a question, I read your new project pictures thing on your user page, and when you say 870 riot configurations, do mean Remington 870s similar in appearence to the one seen in [[Walking Tall]]? Thanks, and good luck, I can't wait to see any future images you upload.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Update- MPM2008, you are now able to block vandals.

==Re:Special page==

Well, that's fine. But now that you're a mod and your images can be protected, I don't think there's much to worry about. I also think it would just be cool if new users understood right off the bat that IMFDB has essentially its own movie armorer. -MT2008

== Other Request ==

Hey, MPM2008, whenever you get the chance, is there a possiblity you can get me a Beretta 92FS Inox or Stainless model of the Beretta 92FS? Thanks in advance. Also, good work with your recent images, I really like the new Walther P99, I was going to ask for one, but you thought about it before I did. Keep up the great work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

==Sin City Yellow Bastard's custom 92FS==
YB's Beretta 92FS in [[Sin City]] is a unique blend of a factory black and an Inox model, similair to SIG-Sauer used in 2 fast 2 furious. Since AQ11 just asked for an Inox, if you get your hands on one, do yuo think you could mix the two together. This is the gun in the movie.
[[Image:SC92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note how it has reverse tutone rather than the typical factory style.]]

Thanks -GM45

== Re: Pop Quiz ==

I think that may be a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]], as it comes in both .357 Magnum and .38 Special and looks similar to the one used in ''[[Bad Boys]]'' by the main villian. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:Isn't the Mod 27 a larger frame? That's what's stumping me. It looks like the frame of a model 10. MPM2008.

::That one in the ''Bad Boys'' screenshot looks pretty huge, unless the actor has small hands. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

::Arghhh. I had better go back to the vault and check. I keep on thinking it's a Model 19-2, primarily because the Mod 27-2 barrel looks different than this one. Thanks so much for the effort. MPM2008

BTW, I'll let you know what I find out. :)

[[Image:S&WRev.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Smith & Wesson Model 27 .357 Magnum?]]
[[Image:BB_Python.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Fouchet dual wields with both his [[Beretta Cheetah]] and a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]].]]

==RE:animated gifs==
I have a lot of high-tec computer editing crap, I likely could do it. I just don't know how. My sister is computer wiz, I see if she can figure it out. I had all three of those Heat GIFs saved on my Myspace. Just a heads up, I'm gonna be doing [[The Punisher (2004)]] soon, so you can check that out. I can't make you any promises on the animated GIFs tho. -GM

==Re: Reign of Fire==
Thanks. Take your time on the Ultimax, it isn't a big deal right now. Wiki just made me an Admin. so I'm feeling pretty damn special right now. I'm going to get the Punisher (2004) on today, than I'm finally back on track with my original list. -GM45

=="Non Guns"==

I just made a page for the [["Non Guns"]], and I'm curious to know what you think of it. I don't know a whole lot about them besides what I've read online, whereas I imagine you've probably got some experience with them, since I've heard many armorers rent them for scenes where blanks are unsafe. Any thoughts? Would say the summary I've done at the top of the page is a pretty good description of what they do?

Cheers.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Haha, trust me, I hear you on the "fugly" part. I cringe every time I spot a Non Gun in a movie or TV show, because they're ''soooooo'' fake-looking and too many idiot directors don't even think to film them at angles/lighting conditions where it won't be so obvious what they are. But, like you've said, our goal here is to be educational and informative, and no matter how crappy Non Guns might look, they are still important to the topic of guns in cinema, and that's what we're here for. :) The images are from Weapons Specialists' web site, which apparently subrents them; ISS has their own pictures, but I prefer Weapons Specialists' because theirs don't have the measuring tape above the gun.

:Sorry to hear you've been sick, but don't worry...you never have to apologize for anything. I really like the idea of your "Hello IMFDB!" card and think it would be great for our site. I will, of course, not demand it or anything, but it would be awesome if we had something like that. I agree with the idea of using the IMFDB logo, though if I can think of anything else, I'll tell you. As usual, thanks for all the work you've been doing (for us AND Hollywood), and thanks for the kind words on my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== 2nd-Gen Glock 23 ==

Hey, I was wondering if you could possibly provide an image of a 2nd-Generation [[Glock#Glock 23|Glock 23]] for the article on ''[[The Fugitive]]'', since the image for that weapon on the page is of a 3rd-Generation model with accessory rails on the frame as opposed to the smooth-framed 2nd-Generation model seen in the screenshots? I already edited the [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22]] section similarly for that article and the sequel ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'', and was wondering if you could help me out with that one image so I don't have to chase down an image on Google. Thanks in advance. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:I asked for Second-Generation Glocks, those are 3rd generation (note the accessory rails at the front of the frame). Seeing as someone identified the compact Glock model in the film in question as a Glock 19 it's something of a moot point now. However, a 2nd-Generation [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] image would be appreciated as there's none available here yet and there's several pages here that could benefit from an image of that weapon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

== Get Well Soon ==

Hey MPM2008, I heard you were sick so I wanted to stop by and say get well soon.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

==My man!==

Awesome! The AKM and Type 84 look great; they're just what we needed. It's weird that I haven't been able to find a good picture of a standard fixed-stock Type 84 anywhere; yours might just be one of the best pics of this gun on the entire 'net right now. Question...is the AKM a Maadi, or is some other make? I would like to edit the entry on the AK-47 page to say if it is or not.

I will start phasing out the old pictures and replacing them, although it seems you guys have a head start on me. And thanks for the other new pictures as well - love that new PSG-1, the Uzi Carbine, and of course the "plain" 870 police (which, like you said, was something we REALLY needed). I'm also glad to see you're better, too. Take care. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

(BTW...dunno if you've noticed, but I only discovered this recently; if you hit the " ~ " key four times, it signs your posts automatically so that you don't have to type out your username. I've been using Wikis for several years now and I only just figured that out. Alienqueen discovered this long before I did, but just a heads-up.)

== Great work ==

Thanks for the police 870, it looks excellent. we really needed a standard since so many of the 870s on the site look like that. I'll be sure to replace all the 870s that need to be replaced with that. And also, I'm glad to hear you got better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Oops ==

I didn't read correctly who gave me the PSG1 pic

==Pics==

Hi,

First of all, thanks yet again for the new pics! The SR9s are nice, but...I had no idea that some SR9s in movies are actually converted from HK91s? If that's the case, then by all means, you should still go ahead and put down those pics under the SR9 section of the G3 page. But does this also mean that the SR9(T) from ''[[The Replacement Killers]]'' is one of these guns? Again, this is just a huge revelation for me. I still see no reason to put them under the HK91 entry, simply because if they're meant to be SR9s, just as the converted HK94s are meant to be MP5s, then I think it's appropriate to label them as such.

And, thanks for the Type 56 that looks like the ''[[Goldeneye]]'' ones. If you want to shoot it again with the regular non-blued bolt carrier, that's fine by me. However, I should also point out that the ones in ''Goldeneye'' also have red bakelite magazines, so you might wanna give it one of those, too. Then, you'll have something identical to the ''Goldeneye'' "AKS-74s". But I will still use the picture you have in the meantime. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

:Hmmm. Yeah, I guess I figured when I noticed the trigger, but I wasn't sure if the gun from ''[[The Replacement Killers]]'' was genuine or not. Was this sort of thing done because real SR9s were too expensive? I figured since the SR9 used to be a readily available civilian "assault rifle", armorers would use it.

:However, if your guns are a fairly accurate representation of the SR9s that have appeared in movies, then it's better that you've given us images of these particular guns. I agree with you that our goal should be to have the most accurate representations of movie guns possible, and since you're an armorer, we can anticipate that yours represent what movies use.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

::''only 125 TCs were imported into the entire USA and only 100 T models''

::Wow, it was really that few? OK, that explains everything. I had no idea they were so rare to begin with. Even HKPRO, which has import data for most of the -90 series guns, didn't have that info. Thanks for those numbers.

::Like I've said, I think this means it's good that we have the pics you've taken because they are a very accurate representation of the SR9s actually used in movies. I would recommend you do one of those "Movie Armorer's Notes" in the SR9 section of the G3 page, just like you did for the Colt Commando section on the M16 page, explaining what you've told me. Hope it doesn't bother you that we're unmasking all of the various tricks that you armorers have been using over the years to convince moviegoers they're seeing one gun when it's actually another! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re: SR9==

I think part of the problem is that there just aren't enough people who take Wikis in general seriously. As far as HK aficionados go, one of my pet peeves is that way too many of them I meet are way too arrogant towards non-HK owners for not being able to appreciate the "Teutonic superiority" (as Larry Correia put it) of HK weapons. Sorry to say that I dunno if you can please some of them no matter what you do. :)

Personally, I accept that there's some stuff that even Hollywood's people have to do in order to make our movie experience satisfactory. Like when we were talking about the ''[[Jarhead]]'' Abrams tanks...it's a necessary evil for Hollywood vehicle wranglers to dress up an English Centurion to look like an M1A1 simply because unless you're Spielberg, it's very hard to get the DoD to lend you a real one for a show. And likewise, in 1984, it was not possible to get real Soviet AKMs, RPG-7s, and DShKs, so the Stembridge armorers had to find the next best thing. But I also enjoy uncovering these tricks simply because I'm an enthusiast of firearms and military equipment in general, so I always like seeing how Hollywood's people think on the fly in adverse circumstances. There's an art to it, no? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction on the Four Brothers' HK33, it was labeled as a HK41 long before I started editing the page, I just took the screenshot. And also, thanks for the new images, I'm putting up the new M16A2 on pages right now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

No problem, every image you upload is great. I also have a question, how do you get the pictures so perfect? Because your gun images are probably some of the best, if not the best gun images I ever seen on the internet. And yea, your new camera really does make a difference, the new versions of the images look great. Anyway, good job on your recent images, and can't wait to see your future M16s.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I see, you put alot of effort into your images and that's exactly what makes them great. I agree that alot of gun sites have bad images, some gun books don't have the best pictures either. One problem with some sites is that they also don't use the best examples, like they'll have a picture of gun but it'll have a whole bunch of modifications on it when the unmodified one is what's really needed, and I agree which should replace as many as the old images as possible. And I think visitors do notice your images because if you look at your Remington 870 Riot Model's file page, it has almost 200 views anad it's only been there since Sunday. And good work on the new M4, if you noticed, Hieloco (the user who kept trying to replace your images with "Net" Images) uploaded a version of the ColtM4 file with similar attachments, but yours beats his by by a long shot. And also is that the same M4 you mentioned on MT2008's talk page that the actor dropped? Just wondering.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==re:M16A2==

First of all, thanks so much for the new M16A2! The AR15 A2 picture was nice, too, but I just thought it'd be better to have the real deal, and it's nice that we have it now. AlienQueen's already been getting to work on replacing the old M16A2 with the new one, and I'll help out, too. The Luger is another image we needed - and the fact that it's from ''Hogan's Heroes'' is especially cool! As far as the HK91 goes, I didn't notice the shadow, but the new one is fine by me. There's only one that troubles - I think the newer Taurus 85 image is a bit fuzzier compared to the old one.

As far as future stuff goes, I have another recommendation. You know how we have an AR15 section under the M16 rifle page? I'd like to get some more un-modified, basic civvie AR15 variants on there, especially Colt Sporters, because I've seen them used in quite a few movies and TV shows that stand in for mil-spec M16s. We've already got an SP1 with an A2 hand guard that you took for the ''[[Heat]]'' page, but I think we should also have SP1s without the forward assist (both A1 and A2 forearms) and a carbine with a 16" barrel. What do you think? (Sadly, I have added more guns to your to-do list...inevitable.)

And yes, we definitely have some of the best gun pics on the 'Net thanks to you. I must admit I'm still smitten with the fact that Norinco Type 84 pics are basically non-existent in just about any gun image site around (even World Guns, which is usually pretty reliable)...except here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, one other thing occurred to me, something we need more than the Colt Sporter ARs...do you think you could get some pics of [[Thompson Submachine Gun]]s? All of our Tommy images are jacked from elsewhere on the Net. It's about time they were replaced. Of course, I know we've already given you a ridiculous number of requests, so I won't bug you too much. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==Sergio Leone Trilogy==
I finished the Leone Trilogy yesterday and I was wondering if you could I.D. the machine gun used in ''[[A Fistful of Dollars]]'', someone said it was a fake but wasn't very specific. I figured if it was some type of fake movie gun, you'd know best.

:Also, excellent Single Action Army picture, that's a beautiful gun. Care to tell me a little about the one you uploaded? Thanks. -GM

P.S. Check out [[Last Man Standing]], I just got that done.

Good job on the Luger P08, it looks great. I don't think the finishes are a big deal, to tell you the truth, I don't even notice it. And it's cool that it was used in Hogan's Heroes, because not only is it a special gun, but someone's destined to make a Hogan's Heroes page eventually, and it will be of a great use when someone does. Keep up the great work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

::Speaking of LMS, his two .45s uniquely have diamond grips and I was wondering if you could take a special picture of A1s with diamond grips. I made a rough draft picture of what I had in mind.
[[Image:CrossM1911A1s-w-diamondgrips-roughdraft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Cross placed, fitted with diamond grips.]]
Let me know what you can do. -GM

==re: Taurus 85 & G3==

Haha...whoops, you're right. I keep forgetting, but...when you upload a new version of an existing image, IMFDB doesn't instantly replace it. Instead, the old image goes fuzzy for a period of time (which seems to vary from hours to days; no clue why) before the new image replaces it. I saw your Taurus Mod 85 pic when it was in this fuzzy "transitional" phase and the thought slipped my mind that this happens. The filter from my brain to my mouth (or rather, my keyboard) doesn't work sometimes, I guess.

As far as the G3 page goes, it is unfortunate. One thing I find annoying about Wikis is that there's apparently no way to confine an image to a particular section of a page when you use the "align" code, so when we follow page conventions and force an image to shift left, right, or center, it totally fucks up the formatting if the images are bigger than the text (which is going to be common for guns that don't have very many movie appearances listed). The only thing you can do is just add lots of space in between each section manually so that the images fit into the section.

But I do agree with you on one thing...why do we need a regular sporter SR9 with the thumbhole stock? Have you seen a movie with one? Do you or any of your fellow armorers have any in stock? Better yet, is there any movie or TV show that would NEED some heavily neutered civilian version of a G3? I kinda doubt it, so I would say it doesn't make sense to include the image. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I ditched the other two SR9 pics. Til we get movies with them (and I know I haven't heard of any yet), no point in having them on there.

:Nice that you found those long-barreled AK folders. I'm pretty sure that Vollmer had at least one at sale (years ago, back when their sales site was still online), but they are quite rare in this country indeed. As far as the pics from World Guns go...it's a mix, just like here. Some of them are pics that the site's editors took themselves, others are jacked from other sites, and some are scanned from books or gun rags. I've usually just used them because (before us), they were one of the most comprehensive gun sites on the net. But I definitely think that because of you, IMFDB now has not only good movie gun images, but some of the best gun images, PERIOD.

:Good luck on your current projects, and don't let those idiot Obama-supporting actors fuck up any more of your guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==The special page==

Remember how a while ago I asked you if I could try making a page that explained to new IMFDB users just how significant it was that we have a movie armorer who photographs his company's guns for us? Well, I finally got around to trying it out. Here it is:

[[MoviePropMaster2008: IMFDB's Own Armorer]]

The title is kinda cheesy, I admit, but it was the best I could think of. The other issue is that I'm not always sure my facts are straight, so if you want to correct anything, go right ahead. And I realize this might be kind of a lame idea - but I just feel it's important for everyone to understand how important your work is to this site. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

:Oh, trust, I fully understand what you mean about wanting to remain anonymous. Even if you weren't a pro-RKBAer working in an industry that is hostile to gun ownership (and non-liberals in general), it would still be perfectly reasonable to want to remain anonymous. When you're a professional of any sort, working in any industry, you don't want to do post something on a web site under your own name that could get you in trouble. As far as the page goes, however, I don't think it should be too big a deal for your anonymity as long as you avoid giving us your name. It's mostly just a way for us to brag that we have someone who can provide us with such great pictures, and to make sure that our new users understand the significance of those pictures. :-) But if you really are uncomfortable with it, that's fine, too...I can ditch it. It took all of 15 minutes to make.

:BTW, I dunno if you're OK telling me this or not (if not I understand), but are you a member of the American Entertainment Armorers' Association? I remember Dan Shea announcing its creation on a forum I used to visit, a couple years ago now. I understand that it was created specifically to address the threat from Cali's gun laws upon your businesses? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==More SAAs==
Your Colt Peacemakers are great, my western pages greatly need them. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Be sure to check out [[Hellboy II: The Golden Army]], I just finished it. -GM

==Image use on WIkipedia?==
Hi, I am an editor on the English Wikipedia. I came across this great site as it completes the media appearances lacking in our firearms pages. You've got some fantastic images of some obscure equipment in the idea configuration - that is, clear background and side profile shots. These would really help us illustrate some of our pages that are lacking in media content. Would you be kind enough to allow us to use these images on Wikipedia? We could upload them under an attribution license and provide a link to this Wiki in return. Kind regards, Koalorka from the WP:Firearms teams. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.219.131|99.232.219.131]] 12:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:Any chance of obtaining a response? I can be reached at koalora at rogers.com. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.219.131|99.232.219.131]] 12:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

::If you are hesitant or have any further questions regarding licensing, feel free to ask. Wikipedia is by principle an entirely non-profit organization as you are probably aware and we could not compensate you financially for the images. I do recognize that there was some considerable effort involved in collecting some of these rare specimens (still salivating over the CETME Ameli) and then setting up a studio with professional lighting, hardware etc. What we can offer to do is attribute you properly and generate additional traffic and awareness for this site and any other organization you specify (even the armory/studio that owns the firearms). If you agreed to have your images uploaded to our server, every one of them would be licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license that requires the copyright holder to be properly credited every time the image is displayed, in either modified or unmodified form. The license does not impair or restrict your moral rights. Here is the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ license description]. We can do a "test" image so to speak, upload an individual image to see if that satifies your expectations.

:In other words, don't make me beg.. :D At least the Ameli, pretty please.

:Regards.
:: To Koaloarka, I appreciate your kind words and gracious offer. As you can probably tell, I've been thinking about the offer. I'm obviously not jumping at the opportunity or else I would have communicated much earlier than now. I must assess what I've been trying to do for the last six months. Since I joined IMFDB I've been working extraordinarily hard to provide the site with exclusive gun images that are available nowhere else. Everyone here knows the hard work, time and $$ spent on trying to get the best quality images of the weapons available anywhere (on the net). And obviously I do it for the benefit of IMFDB. I'm torn by the upside of increased awareness to the site, but I am also not eagerly anticipating the inevitable diluting of the 'exclusivity' of IMFDB's images when they start showing up everywhere on the web.

:: Some background to my thinking - I would not have done the images for a simple firearms site. I probably would not have worked so hard for six months to get these types of images for a gun wiki. IMFDB's unique focus is that it mixes weapons and CINEMA, especially movie trivia and factoids which are not part of the 'regular gun owner's lexicon. '''That is the field I'm in''', and I welcomed the idea of a place where I can contribute my experience and information (mostly 'lost' on the 'regular firearms crowd'). Many of my images are hybrid guns (M16a2s with A1 features or vice versa), or some of custom guns made for the movies (Custom Type 84s or AMD-65s), or weird combinations of uppers and lowers (like the M16 variants, or the 2 toned handguns,etc). which are not factory standards nor are they historically accurate. I remember once, when a firearms historian and enthusiast looked at some of my handguns (SIG P226s and USPs) and was wondering what was wrong with my barrels. He didn't fathom nor appreciate the fact that these were REAL movie guns. He was just disdainful that they were 'ruined' because of the customization needed for blank firing in movies. Anyway, I was toying with the possibility of a limit release of images with a specific watermark or copyright. I was thinking of using similar but not identical images (but still identifying IMFDB.org as the source of the image) with a translucent copyright logo, but that would take some time. But I have not decided yet and I hope you understand my reluctance at this time. I've only been doing this for six months and I don't think I'm ready right now to 'give away' the work I've done when I'm not complete updating the gun images for IMFDB. Perhaps when I've stopped or retired from getting gun pics for IMFDB ....
::''Now there are some sites who already have MY permission to use some MY images, but each one of those entities provided weapons to be photographed, so they helped me personally with the photography itself. (some FFLs, a few collector friends, other armorers, etc.) So you might see a recognizable shot somewhere else, but they will be watermarked and copyrighted as license granted to that entity.

::Anyway I'm still thinking about it. Give me a little time. I am also conferring with other Administrators of IMFDB and I welcome their input. Ultimately, I will have to make some sort of decision (as the original photographer and copyright holder) as to where I wish to release the rights. Hope that helps.

::[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

:::I agree with what you say about how many people in the gun-owning community aren't going to appreciate what these guns are if they see them on any random gun site. Like, who the hell is going to understand that in Hollywood, HK91s are converted to look like SR9s, or AR15 SP1 carbines converted to look like XM177s? However, one thing I think you should consider is that some of the guns you've photographed are hard to find pictures of, and your pictures represent not only good "movie gun" images, but good gun images, period. The Type 84 pics you've taken are a very good example, because like I said earlier, good pics of the Type 84 seem extraordinarily hard to come by. The new FG42 image is also one that I think can be considered particularly special.

:::I would say that at the very least, you should consider it on a case-by-case basis; whether the gun image you have stands as both an important gun image as well as an important "movie gun" image. But ultimately, these are your images, so the decision is yours. Take my opinion only for what it's worth. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

::::I was not asking for a blanket-release of your work into the public domain or any such thing, just a few individual photographs of authentic and obscure and unmodified firearms, i.e. the CETME Ameli, FG42. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 18:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::I KNEW that. But work on Wikipedia WILL be jacked and seen all over the web. And the more removed the image is from the original source (here) the harder it is to force people to remove pirated images on their own sites. I fully intend to slam pirates who steal my images (which is my right), but it's harder when they can say'' "Oh I got it from Wikipedia, who are you? What authority do YOU have to tell me not to use a stolen pic?"'' It might be helpful to make a list of what you are interested in. I am considering creating an alternate image of the same gun with watermarks and attributions for 3rd parties (though it's not something I was planning to do at this time). Let me know your list and we can discuss it. thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

::::::The attribution license is for that purpose specifically, if you are not properly attributed when the image is displayed, that person has violated your rights to the image and is liable for prosecution under international or US copyright laws. Keep in mind that those willing to pirate your images will do so whether or not you agree with it, this will happen at a higher frequency once your sites gains in popularity; by letting Wikipedia use your images, your images will proliferate the net with the proper license, exposing your work and Imfdb.org to the mainstream. Right now, we can do just one image to determine if you'd be satisfied with the end result; how about the Ameli? The CETME Ameli page does not receive too many hits due to the scarcity of the gun. Kind regards. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 19:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

::Any progress here? You asked for a list, we would just like the AMELI at this time. Regards. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.219.131|99.232.219.131]] 17:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==Smiths==

Thanks so much for the Smiths, but especially the Model 29! All the ones on the page before now were 629s, and I figured we needed an original blued M29. In fact, it seems almost like blasphemy that this is exactly what Dirty Harry used and we haven't had the right gun until tonight. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:Oh, yeah, forgot about that other S&W 29, hehe. But still, an MPM2008 photo of a Smith is always preferable to some random image from Google. And to answer your question - yes, you should feel free to replace old pictures jacked from Google with yours. There's no reason why anyone should complain, because...

:*(A.) Your pictures are always vastly superior to the old ones
:*(B.) It takes no effort to copy an image off the web, whereas taking your own pics is a time-consuming process (especially the way you do it)
:*(C.) You're an administrator now, so you have the final word anyway.

:As far as the other Wiki guy's offer goes, I agree that you should only do it if you can mark the images as your own first, or if they give you proper credit (and link to this site, guaranteeing us more hits :). Come to think of it, it might not be a bad idea to do that with ALL of your gun images from now on, just to make sure that we mark them definitively as ours. But although I like being able to think of your gun images as exclusively IMFDB's, not so sure I like the idea of clamping down on other users. I mean, let's face it, we'd look like hypocrites because many of the images on IMFDB are still jacked from other sites (though this will change eventually, of course). World Guns would probably throw a fit if they saw this site. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I suppose you're right...if World Guns did ask us to remove all of the images we've used without permission, I would immediately comply with their request. However, you gotta admit that it's still going to be kind of flattering if people decide that IMFDB is a great source of gun images (not just "movie gun" images) and want to use our pics.

:BTW, have you talked to any of the other armorers about IMFDB? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:04, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
I never knew they tend to used A1 muzzle breaks but it does make sense, A1 star flashes look cool (I'm still in awe over the shot when the muzzle flash is out 2ft in each direction)

I hope you don't mind that I edited your pictures together, I just used what I had. I'll just leave them on the page like that until you take some SP1 pics. Thanks. More to come on the Predator page. -GM

Same film different subject. Do you know who mounted the Shotgun under Billy's Rifle. It looks like a Ciener Ultimate only it uses a Mossberg 500 and it's several years before Jane's says such systems came out. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 08:31, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

==Hollow Point==
[[Image:Type84HybridRifle.jpg]]

Thanks for the Type 84S specific to the [[Hollow Point]] page. I really apprieciate it. Was the gun actually used in the movie or do you mean it is made to look the same? -GM

==The Mask==
I have it on my list, so I'll get it done eventually. -GM

Alienqueen11 here, sorry if I got in the way when you were uploading gun images when I was uploading those Resident Evil screenshots. --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Thanks for the new guns==

I really like those new SIGs you uploaded (just ditched the old P220R image and replaced it with yours on all pages), as well as the Type 84 folder and the Madsen M50 (the movie ''[[City of God]]'' features those, so we gotta get that image on that page whenever someone screencaps it).

Also, can you by chance tell me what kind of shotgun this is (from my page for ''[[The Crow]]''):

[[Image:Vlcsnap-269025.png|thumb|none|500px|]]

Who makes that bullpup stock? I think it's a Muzzelite, but I dunno, and a Google search seems to turn up negative for info or images on this gun. I know I've seen it in at least a couple of action movies from the 1990s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, OK, thanks for clarifying the type of gun used to kill Lee. I figured it was the 629 that killed him because I have heard from various articles that the gun was definitely a .44 Magnum, and the character of Funboy uses the 629 throughout the movie. Any idea why they switched to another gun for that one scene? Seems like it would have been identifiable as a continuity error had the scene been finished and Lee had not been killed.

:And don't worry; I do fully appreciate (have heard it many times) that the entire reason that the accident happened was because the production sent the armorer home in order to save money. And I have heard it was the fault of some clueless property assistant(s) who were responsible for the fuck-up that got Lee killed.

:Also, I appreciate the ID on Grange's shotgun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Dibbs==
I didn't think of it that way but I completely understand what you mean. I'll change the word. Dibbs is kind of declaring it is mine, simply saying that a movie is on my to-do list changes it sort of. The only movies I would really want to declare "dibbs" on are the ones I ordered on DVD, even when I own them on VHS already, just so I can screencap them. I'll remove my dibbs messages and just let people know I plan to do it, and if no one else plans to do it, I would like to. "Dibbs" was simply a poor choice of words. It's not like I'm locking the page from someone else to work on though. When Orca1 9904 asked to do [[Tears of the Sun]], I let him. (AQ11 even cut off the widescreen bars now). When you asked to do Rambo III, I let you. (P.S. Let me know if you need me to finish that.) I agree tho, it was a dumb idea.
P.S. I screencapped Iron Man, sorry. -GM

== One more request ==

Hey MPM2008, when I asked for the Beretta 92FS Inox, I happened to notice GM45 asked for a reversed Two Tone Beretta 92FS for use on the [[Sin City]]. If you happen to get ahold of them, I would like to know if you can combine them the factory style way as well and photograph it if you can, because a Beretta like that would be useful for pages such as [[Hostage (2005)]]. Here's a screenshot of the gun in the movie:

[[Image:HostageBerettatutone-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:HostageBerettatutone-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

That's an awesome shot as always, aAnd you're right that has to be the best shot of the gun on the entire internet. I like it the way it is, and excellent work on your most recent images too, I really like the M16A4. Also, are you still considering the Wikipedia user's offer?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:53, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==AK-104==
It looks great. The magazine is no big deal. Even with that magazine, you still have the only well-taken AK-104 on the net. Don't worry about fixing it right away, it looks awesome even with the wrong mag. One thing though. You never know when one day a movie could have an AK-104 with a waffle mag so don't just cover over it if you take a new pic. You replaced the MAC-10 with the after market mag with the newer image, but you never know when one could be seen using one. Just a pointer. I'm almost done with [[Hot Fuzz]], then I'm gonna do [[Tropic Thunder]], [[Crank]], [[Shawshank Redemption]], and [[The Dirty Dozen]]. Should have them all done by the end of the month. (With deer season, my job to fix guns has been pulling me away. Plus, I hunt myself on occasion.) Keep up the good work. -GM

:If I use the word "sexy" to describe a gun picture, what does that say about me? LOL.

:I like it. And I agree with Alienqueen; I wouldn't worry too much about the mag. However, I must say that I'm a little more excited about some of the other pics you uploaded while I was at work today...thanks so much for re-doing that Type 56-1 picture for the ''[[Goldeneye]]'' page with the AK-74 muzzle break and plastic mag, and I also really appreciate you getting the Benelli M1 Super 90 (oddly enough, we don't have a page for that gun, for whatever reason). And the new XM177 pic is something we REALLY needed; time to ditch that old XM177 picture we've been using to represent "Colt Commandos" in movies (I think it's actually a Tokyo Marui airsoft replica, anyway).

:But...for now, I must do more GRE studying and personal statements for grad school apps. Sadly, I'm getting way too busy to make regular contributions these days, but real life keeps calling. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

:I wouldn't worry too much about the stock, because if you notice every image you upload always finds a use. There's no telling if a movie will come up with an AK 104 in the same configuration, plus if it's a movie gun, the movie it was used in will have to come up eventually. But if you want to upload a new one, that's entirely up to you.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

:So finishes can cause that much trouble when combining parts? Makes you wonder how they do it because I see soo many Berettas in wierd configurations in movies, I remember seeing a Beretta 92FS Inox with a black barrel in Kiss of The Dragon. And also, how rare is it to see a two tone Beretta 92FS? Because even if you search it on Google, there aren't many images of one.

And about the FG421, that is one wierd looking gun, is it German made? Because it resembles the MG42's from [[Saving Private Ryan]] a little bit, but I must say the grip dosen't look too comfortable with the way it's positioned. But another great image none the less.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==FG-42==
Nice piece. It must be rare, I don't ever see them in my typical order books like Southern Ohio Guns or any other vintage firearms catalogs. Like AQ said, I think the grip is positioned ackwardly and seems uncomfortable. Like all the other cool German guns, I can't own it sadly. I don't see why they would make it a paratrooper gun, way too big. Nice pic. Glad you didn't ignore it in the back. -GM

==No Problem==
You're welcome. Despite not being such a great movie, it was quite interesting gun-wise :))

==Taps and Mr. & Mrs. Smith==
I don't own Tapps and have never seen it but I own the Extended Cut of Mr. & Mrs. Smith, which includes a scene with a Mini-gun and cool other things. It is on my list and once my to-do list pile is reduced, I'll get on it. Right now I'm working on Tropic Thunder and The Shawshank Redemption. -GM

==The FG42==

Damn, that thing is beautiful! Reminds me why one can never fail to give the Nazis points for ingenuity when it came to weapons. I seriously want one, along with a Sturmgewehr. Good news though! Have you heard about this? http://www.ssd-weapon.com/engl_web/produkte_en/fg42_en/fg42_en.htm Apparently, they've got civvie reproductions of these guns now! Dunno if/when they'll get imported/manufactured in the States. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

:Your choice, I guess. Are they being imported to the states yet, though? The site doesn't list a U.S. distributor, and I haven't seen any for sale yet. But yeah, it would be cool to have a picture of a nice new FG42, plus you can get the 2nd version which you told Alienqueen you didn't have.

:BTW, speaking of rare German weapons, do you have access to a Sturmgewehr (either -42 or -44)? There aren't too many movies with them that I'm aware of (besides ''[[Escape to Athena]]''), but they do appear in lots of WWII-themed games. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Remington 870==
Closest thing I can find is this bird gun in [[The Unit]].
[[Image:Unit-Mack'sshotty2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

:I read your story on Brandon Lee, that's tragic. I sometimes make dummy bullets and I ''always'' fire the primers before I reload the bullet. Your supposed to use super glue to make sure the round stays in the brass. Then you go to a wire wheel and polish the brass and get rid of any super glue that seeped out. I wonder why they never made "dud" primers that could look live but not go "bang" when the hammer falls on them. I first made dummy rounds with 8mm rounds for my Kar98k, but I didn't super-glue them in, and eventually they all fell into the shells and got stuck. It sucked. I'm sick with something bad and Tropic Thunder is gonna have to wait because I feel like crap. Have a good day. -GM
==Re:Morita==
Thanks, I'm feeling a little better. I was filling out some of the fictional firearms pages and I figured of all of them, you'd like the Morita page since I remembered you said you owned one. I deleted my page because yours came out better than mine. You know more about the movie any way, I have yet to see it fully and last time I saw it was too long ago to remember. -GM
:Nice SMLE pic! And I forgot to mention, the Colt Navy is beautiful. -GM

==Bankok Dangerous==
You made the page look much better now. Your shots are ''far'' clearer than mine. Thanks. -GM

==Tropic Thunder==
A Sporter II pic would be much apprieciated. To test the whole blank safety distance, I tested various blank calibers to a piece of paper and found 10 yards to be the ''dead zone''. Since I'm trying to make a movie with a few friends of mine (maybe something to show a film school), I'm going to use some blanks and want to know my limits. Obviously, since I'm the only one with true experiance and weapons intelligence, I'll be handling the blanks, post-production edits on my computer will fill the rest. I'll try my best to make them look like they know what their doing with guns, but they are pretty dumb. If you have any movie making tips, please let me know.
:P.S. I plan to make it a DVD and might even screencap it as a section on my profile. -GM

==Re:590==
Go for it, fine by me. Your pics are always better than what we find on google. -GM

==The new Cobray M11 picture==

The new Cobray M11/9 picture looks really cool! Thanks so much for that! Also, do you think it's appropriate to classify the M11/9 under the MAC-10 page? I have been thinking about giving that guns its own page for a while now. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

:First of all, I completely missed the MAC-11. I've just been getting busier and busier (currently at work - on a Saturday! - indexing prior art PDF files now), and you upload so many images that I've missed a few here and there. I did like the SG550, though, and the the AMD-65 pics were also something nice (it's cool that you found the same style BFA as the Israelis). But that Type 56 is just...ugh, who the hell treats a nice gun that way? (in Africa or Afghanistan, sure, but not here in the states!) It's odd because I had no clue that the Type 56 was imported to the U.S. back when Uncommon Valor was filmed (82-83). I remember hearing it wasn't until 1984 that they reached these shores.

:As far as the Cobray page goes, I know what you mean about the mistake, but then again, we have the [[Taurus PT92]] page separate from the Beretta 92 page even though the PT92 is commonly mistaken for the 92F. The best thing to do would put a note at the top of the page suggesting people look at the Cobray page just in case.

:Appreciate the effort on the Thompson pics...like I said, we REALLY need some good ones. I hate the fact that someone put an Auto-Ordnance semi-auto Thompson clone with a long barrel to represent an "M1921". Also, from now on, whenever you upload pictures, please do the same thing you did with the Cobray; just upload them as a new version over the old ones. The way, we don't have to go back and replace the old image with your new image on every single page that has the old one. And like I said before, nobody should mind if you get rid of the old images, because yours are always better and you're an admin anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

::Yeah, it makes sense, what you're saying. Were the Type 56s from ''[[Deer Hunter]]'' also the same as the ones from ''[[Uncommon Valor]]''? I mean, let's face it...you don't see that many Chinese AKs (or AK-type firearms, period) in American movies before about the mid-80s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

==That Type 56==
Holy shit, who handled that gun to make it that FUBAR?! One of my main jobs in my dad's shop is to clean up guns, so I understand how horrible that is. Mail it to me, I'll clean it up. -GM

Woah, that thing looks like it's 70 years old with every thing it been through. What did they do to it? I'll give it credit for one thing, that's a very good example of how durable and rugged an AK type assault rifle can be, especially with that kind of treatment.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

==Couple of questions regarding Walther pistols==

1) Has the current-generation P99 been converted or modified into a movie blank-firing gun that you know of? I ask because I see on the back cover of one of Wesley Snipes' DTV movies that he's holding one that appears to be a new-model P99, but it also looks like they took an UMAREX airsoft model and painted the tip black. Insight?

2) Word on a couple of forums is that the Walther PPS makes an appearance in Quantum of Solace, wielded by Olga Kurylenko. If possible, could you confirm? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

::I don't know, but I will keep it in mind when I ask around. MPM2008

==Request==

[[User:Revolver|Revolver]] here
Just curious, could you get a good picture of the M4s used by the Air force in Iron Man? The ones with the ISM-V Scopes?
Possibly other pictures from the movie? Like the G36Ks and G36Cs?
::I'll add it to the gigantic list of things to do. best regards. MPM2008

==.577 Rifle==
That would be awesome. Do you think you could one pic before he mounts a scope and one when he does? You'd have the best picture of such a rifle on the internet. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 00:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== Another Request ==

I was wondering, would it be possible for you to get your hands on a stainless steel [[Jericho 941]]? There's at least a couple pages here such as ''[[The Kill Point]]'' and ''[[Transporter 2]]'' that could benefit from it. I'm also still waiting for a 1st-gen [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] (or whichever version of the 19 it is that doesn't have rails on the frame). Thanks in advance. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
:I didn't know it was an order, rather than a request (re the Glock) and I don't have a 2nd gen of my own or I would have posted it already. I have to track down someone with one and take the time to do the photoshoot, a real hassle BTW. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== About Png ==
Hi, for some strange reason VLC does not catches screenshots in jpg, only in png. In the future I will convert them in jpg before uploading. [[User:Fimvit|Fimvit]]

==Re: Goldeneye==

That's fine. In all honesty, it's a bad habit that I'm afraid I have, and I seem to be influencing other forum members to do it even though it does ruin the "encyclopedic" format of the pages, as you've said. I'll try to remember in the future; bad habits die hard for me. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ==

I know, I had already changed the settings. Regardless, it takes the snapshots in png. Can't figure out why...
Kind regards [[User:Fimvit|Fimvit]]

==Crank==
Hahahahahahaha, Blu-ray. I can't afford half a Blu-ray player. I'm still using DVDs, I guess this one just looks a little better. I've noticed some people use png files now, but they take too long to load and if you click on the image, it's just as clear as a jpg, so that's what I use. Thanks. Sorry I'm taking so long with it, I keep getting sidetracked. Go check out AQ11's profile talk and see my list of movies in my pile. Ugh. It's gonna be a long month. -GM

==Thanks==

Thanks so much for the new images (i.e. the USAS-12), and thanks for getting the Benelli shotgun page in order. It really needed an overall badly, and it's crazy that we never even had an entry anywhere for the M1 series before now. Also, nice work on ''[[Ultraviolet]]''; I've had that DVD in my collection for a while, but, like a lot of movies, simply never got around to capping it. No matter; yours are better than mine would have been.

Hope you've had a great Thanksgiving! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, I agree, the Molotov cocktail doesn't need a page. This is the Internet Movie ''Firearms'' Database, not the Internet Movie ''Weapons'' Database. Also, dunno if you saw, but some anonymous user tried to delete your user page, and has thus been nuked. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

::Oh, yeah, almost forgot...I'm not really sure how to see page views besides going to "Special Pages" (under Toolbox on the left side) and there's a "Popular pages" section, but that's not quite what you need... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re: Molotovs==
I understand what you mean fully but many pages link to the Molotov page and it's one of those mistakes that kind of has to be there now. I'm making [[The Whole Nine Yards]] as we speak and that had a molotov. I don't think it is a weapon deserving a spot but too many pages already have it and it's just easier if it is there. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 22:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Question about the SIGs from Double Team==

First of all, nice job so far on the ''[[Double Team]]'' page, even though it's not yet complete.

Anyway, I was looking at this picture:

[[Image:DoubleTeam-Gun-WallA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

What type of laser controls are those on the grip of the SIGs? I ask because I've seen the same setup on a SIG P228 that Denzel Washington uses in the movie ''[[Virtuosity]]'', and I was wondering who makes it. Or was it something done just for both movies? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==The Thompsons==

YES! They're awesome. Thanks so much...we ''really'' needed some good pics of Thompson SMGs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Response (Sorry for being late) ==

Thanks for wishing me a Happy Thanksgiving, I hope you had a great one as well. As for improvised weapons, I agree with you, Propane tanks even though they were made to be bombs shouldn't be listed as weapons. But I agree the molotov should stay since it's already a page for it and it's on quite a few pages. Also good work on Starship Troopers, the page looks great, and the Thompson pictures are great as well. Keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

==Thompson==
Sounds good to me, we need some Thompsons. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 21:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

:Please, in the future, never hesitate to replace the old pics with yours. Yours are always better, plus when you just upload over the old ones, we don't have to replace the gun pics on each movie/TV/video game page individually. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

== Good Job ==

Good job on replacing all the [[Thompson]]s, the new pictures look great. Also, are you still going to upload an M16A3? And also did some of the M16 type guns you uploaded come from Iraq? I mean like the M16A4, and the M4A1 with the scope and RIS Foregrip.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

==Taegukgi==
I can barely stand anime let alone flash animation shorts. I think it disrespects the hard work we do to screencap movies (and you great efforts to make sure we have images galore) and we have a page for some little short? I don't see why someone would watch it and wonder "Would someone like to know what guns are used in this?" Maybe if someone froze and capped the short it MIGHT be acceptable.

P.S I've been working on [[Wanted]] for 2 days, there are so many guns and continuity errors (guns switch to others in seconds), it is driving me crazy. While most I can figure out, some user input such as your own would be much apprieciated. I feel like I'm lying to the people who read my message at the top of the page that says "I'll have it done today" and can't because I busy. I hope they all understand. I'll make sure I give them the excellent page they've been waiting for (and get rid of the abismal bootleg images). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I think at the very least, a re-direct is in order. The flash animation should be something like "Taegukgi (Flash Animation)". But personally, I'm really kinda skeptical of including stuff that's not professional media. Next thing we know, any kid who makes action movies with his friends and their airsoft guns is gonna try and make an IMFDB page. This is an even bigger problem with mods for first-person shooter games, because there are lots of user-made mods on the 'Net.

:That reminds me...when I get done with the GRE, I need to get the FAQ done that I've been meaning to do. Once I draft it, I would like all the Admins on here to take a look, and we should all agree on particular terms. In it, I will specify rules on stuff like including Flash Animation. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

::Agreed. I have already warned several users that I will not allow images from bootleg copies of movies not out on DVD to be posted on IMFDB, but I missed ''[[Tunnel Rats]]'' because I had no idea what it was or when it was coming out. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

::I also think Anime is ok because it is something licienced, and more official. It's like saying Anime is to films and TV shows is to Flash and Fan made shorts with their home cameras and posted on youtube. I mean, should we start looking up shorts that people film themselves and then upload on Youtube? I don't think so. It's annoying, kinda insulting and a waste of time at the same time to even think of it. I do some of the Anime because I believe how they draw the weapons make them worthy of mention and images worth showing to see how real they drew them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

:Just the same, I know you can tell my ONE Glock is real over the others listed that aren't. I don't go to the range as often as I want. Bullets are expensive and so is renting time on the range closest to me. I only play with Airsoft because it's the only time where I get to shoot people and not feel the slightest remorse whatsoever. I'm killing them in a manner of speaking. I have ran into the types of guys that only knows Airsoft brand names. I on the other hand am really interested in the real life counter parts that inspires Airsoft, this is where I found out so much info on real guns...but I still have trouble telling Berettas from Taurus and between shotguns sometimes. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

== FN FAL ==

Could take a picture of an FN-FAL?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Predator==
Thanks, it wasn't on my list but I saw the page was incomplete so I made time for it. Sorry I edited your pictures, but it looks better than an empty spot for now.

Also, excellent job with the Uzi pic, it looks great. I too never liked that Uzi pic before. I just finished screencapping [[Unforgiven]] so be sure to check that out. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"==
Do you think you could check your armory for a [[Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"]] rifle? Also, a lot of the ones in films are used as Henry rifles by removing the forend, the advantage being the lack of a spring follower pinching the shooter's hand. So if you do find a Yellow Boy, could you remove the forend and snap a shot of that as well? Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== H&K USP and H&K MK 23 ==

Could you replace the pictures of the H&K USP .45 and the H&K MK23 with better images. Thanks.

==Type 84 Target/Match==

So you finally got to take pictures of them. Nice! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

And thanks for the new .308 Valmet. Those appear in lots of movies, so I can use it on my ''[[Hard Target]]'' and ''[[The Negotiator]]'' pages.

==The HK94/MP5 conversion==

Thank you so much for this! I wanted it as much as GM did. Where did you find it? And you've actually confirmed already that it's one of the ''[[Air Force One]]'' MP5s? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

:Nah, of course that doesn't ruin it. If it's a movie gun, and it's the same type of conversion seen in those action movies from the 1980s and 90s, it's fine by me. It's the same ''type'', and that's more than enough for us. As far as Jedi Mind Powers, yeah, I guess I got something like that. Actually, I've just been glued to Facebook extending Christmas wishes to people most of today, and I check IMFDB pretty regularly. Also was working on ''[[24: Redemption]]'' earlier today.

:As far as your watermarking idea goes, I encourage it. However, there may be some way to actually disable right clicking on just your images so people can't save them to their HDs and re-post them later. Or, there may be a way of embedding copyrights into them. Not sure. But we'll figure out something. Asking Bunni about this would be the way to go, I think.

:Hope you've had a great Christmas. Over here on the East Coast, I've only got 1 hr. left before it ends, but you're in Cali, so I guess you still get a few hours left to enjoy today. And thanks for all the wonderful Christmas presents you've given IMFDB (again, I appreciate the HK94, the M78, and the long-barreled Type 84s). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:08, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

:The HK94 is great, I felt really bad chopping your pictures. Now I can get rid of them. And I read about your water marking idea. You should put one of your own personal insignias and maybe an imfdb logo. I hope you had a happy holiday. I got lots of movies to screencap including [[The Great Escape]]. I'm going to buy Romeo + Juliet and a few other gun movies with the money I got as well. I'm stilling working on Starsky and Hutch right now though. Great work with Stripes btw, I loved that movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Terminator 2 page==
What do you think of the T2 page? Did I over do it on the "fun facts"? As far as the guns go, did I get my info right? Colt Commandos are kind of hard to ID for me. Hope you have a happy new year. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==re: the images==

First, thanks again for the new images. It's nice to have a USP45 (especially since ''[[Collateral]]'' is one of the more popular pages on here, and Tom Cruise used one in that movie). The FNC is another nice one to have. Did you ever find out if the ''[[Heat]]'' FNCs were chopped-down Sporters with auto sears and M16A1 flash hiders installed, as you suspected?

As far as copyrights go...yes, it was inevitable. I know people have been talking about IMFDB and its images on quite a few gun forums, but I had no clue anybody would have the audacity to take your images and claim them as their own! How has your electronic tagging worked? Any particular software you used? The last time you and I discussed watermarking, I did a quick search for software that might be used. I found this: http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=10611 . But if you have a better one, that works, too. I do think you should start getting the images tagged ASAP, because I don't think people should be stealing your stuff. I still do worry somewhat about the "hypocrite" accusations, though, but as long as you keep getting new images up, especially for well-known guns (like ARs, H&Ks, AKs, Glocks, 1911s, etc.), those cries will have little validity.

Anyway, sorry to add to your growing list, but I have another request. I recently did a major re-vamp on the [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare series]] page, which used to be called just the "L96A1" page. All of the gun images I have on there now are jacked from Remtek's Accuracy International site, which I hated doing, but had no other choice. If you get a chance to photograph ''any'' of the AW rifles in your company's inventory, I'd be most grateful. I'm especially interested in the basic AW and the AWP (because my ''[[Jericho (TV series)|Jericho]]'' page has the latter), but anything else you have in stock would be great. Thanks so much for all your hard work. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

:The USP-45 looks great. As MT said, it will work well on the Collateral page (especially because I'm going to be adding shots to it later) and the FNC is excellent. Bravo. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Check IMDB for gun-heavy movies (you won't find specific IMDB forum topics in a Google search). It's very common now to see somebody ask a question about a gun in a movie and some other forum user will point them to us. Last one I recall looking at was "Hitman" where somebody mentioned us. I have also seen people make topics about us on everywhere from the AR-15.com to the 1911 forum to the Firing Line.

::As far as reactions go, sorta mixed. Some people draw attention to our mistakes (and let's face it - we had a LOT, especially before you came in), others say we're neat. However, there don't seem to be a whole lot of folks so far who understand the fact that our images are exclusive to us - which is another reason why your watermarking is such a good idea. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Hey MPM2008, I just wanted to say thanks for all your recent pictures, I really like the USP 45, and the Mossberg 590 Mariner. Thanks to you, Imfdb now has genuine pictues of all three calibers the USP is available in. Keep up the excellent work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:01, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I was trying not to do too many shots in Commando since I didn't want to muck up your page but I didn't know your limit was 4. I add so many shots usually because they illustrate different users and different scenes. I don't try to spoil the story but I try to run a path with my images. I was trying to respect your format more than how many screencaps (you'll see I kept the calibers after each description like you do and kept the size image under 600px. I'll admit that LMS had too many shots but don't hold that on me every time I go a little over on my screencapping. Hope you had a happy new year. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Finally Got It!==
The AKMS pistol looks great. Nice work. I just finished ''[[The Mist]]'' and ''[[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]]''. Now I'm gonna work on ''[[Van Helsing]]''. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re:Finally Got It! ==

That is one Sweet AK! Is that the actual gun used in the movie? Happy New Year By the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 07:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Finally Got It! ==

It looks awesome! Where did you find? Is it one of Cinema Weaponry's guns, as I suspected? Also, that gun appeared again this past summer in ''[[Pineapple Express]]'', so I added it to that page. But nice job. And Happy New Year! Thanks for the wonderful gifts you have given us! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

==Rambo==
I noticed you are adding some new shots to Rambo. Do you think you could grab some shots of his knife and bow, since all the othe Rambo pages have them. If you can't, I'll do it eventually. If you can, note that he has two knives. His mini machete that Stallone actually made for the movie and the knife from Rambo II. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==The Auto 9==

You had access to the Auto 9? Wow, I had no idea they had any of them intact after all these years. Of course, ''[[Sin City]]'' features one, but theirs was actually a modified 92FS, not a 93R. How did you get your hands on this thing? Whatever...nice job, and thanks for the awesome pic. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:57, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Finally Answering your questions ==

I understand now, thanks for the reply. So you can basically make it look like any kind of M16 if you have the right parts, anyway I can't wait to see your C7. Also, are you uploading more Mossbergs? Because if you want, I can edit the Mossberg 500 with the Heatshield out of the Comparision picture and upload it if want me to:

[[Image:MossbergComparisonMain.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

But if you prefer to upload your own image, it's okay.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

About the Mossbergs, So you do want me to edit it out? Anyway, A simple Mossberg 500 with a High Capacity magazine tube to replace this image would be nice:

[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 - 12 gauge]]

Also, if you can get an image of a Mossberg 500 with a pistol grip like the one in [[Training Day]] it would be apprecited. Thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Mossberg 500 ==

Hey MPM2008, I cropped and edited the comparison image, and uploaded the Mossberg 500 with the heatshield as a seperate image. I just want to want to know if it's okay before I add it to the page. I wrote that it belongs to you in the image description. What do you think?

[[Image:Mossberg500withHeatShield.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Thanks, I tried to make it looked as much like one of yours as possible. I'll put on the page now. Feel free to edit or overwrite it whenever you like.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==The PT92C==

Thanks for this! I just put it on the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page. I'm guessing it might even be the same one seen in ''[[Gates of Hell (1995)|Gates of Hell]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: 24 Redemption==

Yep, I understand. I was just giving a reason to everyone why I was. I realize you wouldn't make that mistake. I think the page used to have the USPc simply because it appears on the DVD cover, before I screencapped it and generally gave it a huge overhaul. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for the new FALs!==

They look great! We can always use more. Only question is...do you by chance have a picture of a 50.61 like the gun from ''Heat''? (or rather, something that looks like one)

The new Mossberg Bullpup also looks good. While I liked the one with the extended magazine tube, I like this new one better, simply because the standard models without the extended tube seem to be the ones which appear in movies most often. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Excellent, that 50.61 is perfect. Thanks again! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

==Trapdoor Springfield==
Thanks for uploading pics of the Trapdoor Springfield rifles, they complete a few of my pages better. I added your pictures to those pages as well.

I've been working on ''[[The Dirty Dozen]]'', have you seen it? I have the guns down but I've only seen the movie twice and don't know all 12 guy's names. If you have, can you help me out with that? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== RE: Above ==
I am sorry in advance for the language I am about to use but this douche Gunmaster45 completely erased the "Dirty Dozen" page I had ALREADY created. Not a single piece of the page I had created still exists. Admin or not where does this asshole get off destroying a page I worked on???

==Help with ''Transformers'' 1911 pistol ID?==

Hey, I was wondering if you could take a look at the M1911 being used by Captain William Lennox ([[Josh Duhamel]]) in my screenshots of ''[[Transformers]]'' and see if you could ID it? It appears to be a mostly standard M1911 pistol but has a Kimber-style hammer and slight beavertail to the grip safety. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

: Just took another look at the M1911 page and it almost looks like the [[M1911 pistol series#Colt XSE|Colt XSE]], only the weapon in the film lacked the second set of cocking serrations at the front of the slide. What do you think? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:59, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re:KIN93==

Not really. He has been warned before this, so being a bit frustrated is understandable. And yes, I agree that being released in theaters does not justify using bootlegs, and will certainly still be noticed by any studio police on the prowl. After all, if a movie hasn't been released on DVD yet, there's no way to get screenshots other than bootlegging. And that's why it's unacceptable. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== About the images on the Predator 2 page ==

Could i replace them?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:28, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I've been trying to cut back on the amount but I have my specific way I make my pages. I don't just tell what guns are used. I tell you what guns are used, who uses them, goofs, and fun facts. It makes the page a little larger but I like to think of it as being thorough, more like an article then just a "page". Since we have pages for actors, guns, and films/TV, it is good to show you the info. Sometimes I just can't pass up good shots. If you notice on my Last Man Standing page, the shot is either good, or is telling information. I understand that some of my pages are cluttered, but I've been doing my best to keep them organized. My limit now is usually ten or less images, but I sometimes have to makd exceptions. You are free to remove screencaps I add if you find them to be to many on one of ''your'' pages. You are free to do whatever you want to your own pages, if I add something you find it not needed, you have the right to remove it. I took some of the Mini 14 shots off your ''[[Commando]]'' page for that reason. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I was looking at the [[Rambo (2008)]] page and saw some of the changes you made. As always, I was a little sad to see those images you removed go but it is your page and your right. While I understand the removal of the shot of the soldier sent airborne by the .50 caliber (I just thought it was worth noting how dumb "movie logic" can get, but it doesn't have a gun in it, so it is not needed), but why did you remove the shot of Diaz with his FN FAL Carbine? I thought it was a pretty clear shot.

I just added some shots to [[Flashpoint]] and soon I'm going to do [[Get Smart]] and a revamp on the Matrix series (the three films and that awful Animatrix) since I bought the four pack DVD - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for your comments about my pictures from [[The Sting]]; it's always been one of my favorite movies (despite its use of suppressed revolvers!) Feel free to make the screencaps any size you feel appropriate, I appreciate your comments and interest! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Screencap limit? ==

Hey, I was just looking at some of my own pages and seeing that I tend to really really overdo it with screencaps (which makes some pages take way too long to load). I was just wondering if you know what a good suggested amount might be for the same gun? Thanks - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That sounds like a very good amount for each. I'll try and go through some of my pages (especially ''[[Dillinger (1973)]]'' and ''[[Bonnie and Clyde]]'') and reduce some of the redundancy. I'll keep it in mind from now on. Thanks for getting back to me so soon! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Hi!==

Sorry I haven't been on IMFDB in a few days. To answer your question: It's not so much that life is kicking me in the ass, it's mostly that I'm in Washington, DC right now without my laptop. Even though I didn't vote for Obama, I came here for his inauguration, mostly because my Mom is a big fan, and because my boss got us the tickets, and well...you know, I do try to do nice things for Mom, even if I don't like the guy she helped elect President. Plus, I got several days off from work, which is always nice.

I should be back tomorrow, and I'll catch up on everything I've missed for the past few days. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request==

I really like how you edit those jacked pics and make them look so much better. So, I figured I'd ask...if you get time, do you want to edit this pic of a Gen 1 Glock 19 that we've been using on several pages?

[[Image:Wviewpoint 0430.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19 9mm]]

If you get around to it, cool, but I realize it might be a while. It could use some removal of white space and shadows, and any other touch-ups you can do. Thanks! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

:Ah, alright, well, that's fine then. Just figured I'd ask because I thought I remembered you telling Orca that you didn't have a Gen 1 Glock 19 in stock at the time, and I wasn't sure if that had changed recently. And yes, DC was a whole lotta fun...until I had to go to the party where all the people from my firm were celebrating the inauguration. Try being the only Libertarian in a room full of mindless liberal douchebags and it's quite awkward. I loved how they were all clapping and cheering even when Obama was saying things that weren't really all that profound or moving. I don't think it matters how good or bad Obama turns out to be as President...this Stalin-esque cult of personality around the man is something I will never get used to. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

::It looks WAY better. Only thing is, next time, please just upload a new version over the old one. Thanks for doing this. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

::By the way, is there really a difference between the T3 AKMS pistol and the ones from Rambo and Pineapple Express? I keep comparing photos and I still can't see the difference in barrel length. The only thing I see is that the Rambo one may or may not have a smooth receiver cover (like the standard Type 56) instead of the AKM-style ribbed. And the True Lies gun is a different one entirely. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

==Rambo (2008==

Just to give you a heads up I changed the info on Rambo M2 Brownings. I talked to Kevin @ ISS about them and he told me they were M2. He was with the show in Thailand working on the 50's. As for the designation AN/M2 was used by the military to discribe the Browning Aircraft gun both 50cal and 30cal unitl 1944 it was changed in September 44 to M2 Aircraft. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the new 870, It looks amazing. Even the color of the stock and pump match the gun in the movie, excellent work. So are you working on the ghost ring version right now or still looking for the accessories? Either way, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. Thanks again, and keep up the great work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

==M1-C Garand==
Beautiful M1-C, thanks for uploading it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Browning M2==
That is definately useable! It's great! I was going to ask that you replace the M2 pic but figured you had enough to do already. You might want to take a picture of it on a pintle mount though because that is the most commonly seen .50 in films. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I like your picture! If you can do the pintle mount, great, but right now, I'm just happy we have a picture of an M2 at all that we can call our own. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

== Browning M2 ==

Thanks for the M1 Garand info, that picture helped me alot, I now understand how the scope and gun work. As for the M2, That is definitely a usable picture, it's excellent! .50 cals are huge, and I would say that type of format is perfect for them. If you want my photo wishlist again, it is these besides the ghost ring 870:

Beretta 92FS Inox

Two Tone Beretta 92FS (If you're able to combine the parts)

Heckler & Koch Mark 23 ("SOCOM")

And if it's possible, can you obtain a U.S Military issue Beretta M9, I know it's very much the same as a Beretta 92FS, but I heard there were some slight differences, and it would go great with the M9A1 you uploaded before. But if you can't get ahold of it, it's okay. The 870 and the Beretta 92FS Inox are the main things I want. Thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind the M9 actually, MT2008 is right. We don't need it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Help on Alex Reid==

Looks like my Jedi Mind Powers are at work again. Creepy, eh?

Alex Reid uses several types of weapons in ''[[Ultimate Force]]''. She uses a SIG-Sauer P226 in at least a couple of episodes. In the episode where the SAS goes against the IRA, she uses an MP5KA1 to shoot at the terrorists during the ambush, and later briefly has a Glock 17 (the same one you see being pointed at her) before the bad guy takes it away. In the season 1 finale, she is given a PPK, but never gets to fire it herself. In another episode where the SAS goes after a Christian cult, she has an MP5SD3. In the season 2 finale where Red Troop goes to South Ossetia, she uses an FN Minimi. Here are some pics from the ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' page:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-77839.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Caroline Walsh ([[Alex Reid]]) unloads a SIG P226 at French special forces in Episode 2.1, "Communication".]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-136363.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Captain Caroline Walsh ([[Alex Reid]]) firing an FN Minimi in Episode 2.6, "Dead Is Forever".]]

Only problem is, these don't really show her face that clearly, so you can't tell who she is. I'll see about getting others... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I got one. Give me a sec to cap it. Season 1, and the episode was "Just a Target" [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, just remembering, in season 1, forgot which episode, she is seen with a full length double barrel shotgun, but never fires it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Here's the pic of her with her SIG

[[Image:UFCWalsh.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

== Wikipedia pirate? ==

Hi, I requested several images from you a while back, but there appears to be an editor on Wikipedia going by the name Josh Woolstenhulme who appears to be uploading some of your gun photos and claiming to be the author. Here are his uploads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Josh_Woolstenhulme

If this isn't you, just a heads up.

[[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 21:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

::Thanks. He IS stealing images. A quick pass and I noticed these.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/M1_Garand.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/M1903Mark1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/AKMRifle.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/SMLE.jpg

so how do I complain and get these down?

:I'm not a Wikipedia member at present (I usually post anonymously), but it seems this user is already setting himself up to get your images removed. Note on the AKM image, it now says this:

:''This image or media does not have information on its copyright status. Unless the copyright status is provided, the image will be deleted after Friday, 6 February 2009. Please remove this template if a copyright license tag has been added.''

:But you should keep working with Koalorka to make sure your stuff isn't being taken, because I'm afraid I dunno what to do besides leave requests on a moderator's talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::Yes, that was me that put up the warning tags. All violating images have now been removed and the pirate warned. Thanks again for the Ameli, you can find the article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CETME_Ameli here]. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 16:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==My requests==
I don't have much but here's a few I thought of:

* [[MG42]]

* [[MG34]]

* [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] with/without 33 round mag

* I mentioned before how I'd really like a [[Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"|Winchester 1866]] with the forearm and without it fro when they mimick Henry rifles in movies.

* Any western guns are great, I'm one of the few who can apprieciate them (since about 90% of the western pages are mine)

* We still need a [[Mossberg 500]] with wood furniture for pages like ''[[Heat]]''

* Some more [[Desert Eagle]]s. The images are all .50AEs, we need some .44s and .357 DEs. We also need a black model.

* [[RPG-7]] (still using that ugly picture taken off google)

* [[M60]] series machine guns

That's all I got for now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Was the extra holding that M60 an extra or someone well known? By the way, I could never do your job. The idea of so many idiots handling and breaking my guns would drive me to insanity. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Good Luck ==

I would like to wish you good luck on your most recent business trip, and I hope you have a good time or try to, and thanks for notifying us about it. Also, sorry to put more requests on your list, but can you look around for these as well?:

* Browning Automatic Rifle or B.A.R

* Mossberg 500 with High Capacity Magazine tube

* Mossberg 590 with Ghost ring sights (I think this is what the Remington 870 on the [[Hostage]] page really is, and I seen them in movies such as The Last Castle)

* M1 and M1A1 Thompson

Thanks, and I wish you the best of luck on your trip.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Have fun! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Revolvers==
I have a question. I know auto pistols need to be milled and threaded to fire blanks but do revolvers need to be modified to fire reliably? I once had some acorn crimped .45 LC blanks which I put through a SAA. The primers backed out from a lack of recoil and the gun locked up. I tried putting it though a Colt M1917 and it hardly fired unless I angled it right. I've seen in movies how some of the firing pins are removed from the hammers (like the S&W 36 from ''[[Running Scared]]''). If they do need to be modified, could you tell me how exactly? Thanks.

P.S. If we have any more things to add to your list, can we just add them directly or should w ask you first in discussion? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I also forgot to ask, what movie was the M60 used on? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Push==
Have you seen the trailers for the new movie ''[[Push]]'' coming out soon? I'd screencap the hi-def trailer but my computer is too slow to do it right. If you're free, could you give it a look? I'd rather you made a page with HD trailer shots than some anonymous user making an empty page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE: Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You are awesome! These guns are great! I'll be sure to add them to the page. I'm going to have to go back and snap a shot of Ace with an SAA (they didn't show him too clear but I think I can find one). I can't wait to see what else is coming. Thanks! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm glad to see you've gotten more famous guns, they look great. It's quite impressive how many guns you're uploading that are well known as used guns by the actors. Did you meet with some important people lately? Keep up the good work, the pics look great. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::All I can say is...Oh, my, God. You have outdone yourself this time. This is one of the best updates you've given us yet. I don't even know how to begin thanking you. I can't even express how giddy with excitement I am that we have these pictures. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Yep, I saw those too! Really awesome. More than awesome, actually. And the new Desert Eagles and the Mark 23 are also VERY highly appreciated, too. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Desert Eagle==
The Desert Eagles are great! We really needed a black model and you gave us all three! Thanks much. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==H&K Mk 23 SOCOM==
Outstanding work with the SOCOM pistols! How did you come across a REAL knight's arament suppressor? You've really outdone yourself this time! Keep up the good work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Photos==
Nice photos you got the other day from our friend. I did not mean to rub you the wrong way last week. We could work better together and put this behind us. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Babylon .A.D/ SPAS 15 ==

I don't think the gun under the M4 is a SPAS 15. The gun pictured has a full lengh forend and the reciver doesn't match. I have seached every where and can't figure out what the gun pictured is. But thanks for help. Gunner313

== Welcome back ==

Welcome back from your trip, hope you enjoyed it, and thanks for the new goodies. I put your newest Smith & Wesson handgun pictures on most of the pages except the ones that had no screencaps or if I couldn't tell which kind of model it was, and I also put the movies guns you got on the S.W.A.T., Untouchables, and Pulp Fiction pages. Best regards.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Thanks ==

Sorry about taking the honors away from you, those are amazing pictures though especially those guns from The Quick and The Dead. If you would like help replacing the pictures, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the new pictures, how many armorers did you meet with? Also the Berettas from Die Hard and Lethal Weapon are nice, so they took it out of the case for you? It looks well worn.
Also, about formatting, I noticed one or two users put at the bottom of sections a few times to space out their pages, I previewed it on pages a few times, it seems to work, but you have do it a few times in a row. Not sure how effective it is, but I figured it's worth noting.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 08:24, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Two requests==

Star Ultrastar, And a S&W 5906 w/ Adjustable sights
Nice job on the Beretta 92 section, by the way
~ Revolver

==Weapon Photos==
Nice photos you just posted. I hope you do well getting your next gig. This SAG BS will put a damper on things. I will have some non-industry related work coming into my shop so it should not hurt that bad. If you need anything PM me on the forum and I will see what I can do. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Re: Update ==

You have really outdone yourself this time, all these new images are amazing. It's cool that you had help from the armorer of True Romance, and that you got to photograph the Beretta from the Die Hard and Lethal weapon films, it makes me wonder why so many why so many actors and directors are so anti gun, especially when they worked around guns so much. Anyway, no one should mind if you replace their pictures, yours are superior to anything else on the site, and I have seen the XXX guns, and those are cool, thanks for finding out what the mystery M1911 on XXX 2 was. It's also cool that IMFDB now has it's own pictures of these unique guns. It was nice of those guys to help you, that was by far the most guns I have ever seen you upload. One thing is for certain, if people don't come here to see what guns were used in which movie, it'll most likely be to see your pictures.

No problem about the formatting, a user named [[User: Vinniebar|Vinniebar]] used it when this site first started, hopefully it'll be the answer to our formatting problems. Anyway you did good with those Berettas, they came out great with what you had there, do the they still work good? Anyway I have to get to bed now. You can keep uploading gun pictures if you want, but you can take a break if you want, you derserve one. Thanks again.

P.S, sorry if it took me long to respond, I'm not the fastest typer.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 09:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==The new stuff==

Your updates just keep getting more and more incredible. Having actual movie guns was cool enough, but having ''specific'' guns from movies handled by stars is just beyond cool. The new Berettas and the Tokarevs are especially appreciated. I just don't even know how to thank you anymore, and words just ain't gonna cut it.

BUT...I must ask you a really quick question. You say that this Beretta was used in ''[[Die Hard]]'':

[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92F 9mm used by Bruce Willis in the film with extended mag release and slide release.]]

Only thing is, this gun clearly doesn't have the extended mag release and slide release, which is visible in this screencap from our movie page:

[[Image:DH_McClane2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|McClane with his [[Beretta M92F|Beretta 92F]] drawn while taking cover from incoming fire from both Hans and Karl.]]

My question is, isn't THIS the gun that Bruce Willis used in the first ''[[Die Hard]]'':

[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9mm. This is the actual screen used Beretta carried and fired by [[Bruce Willis]] in the film.]]

...because this one actually DOES have an extended slide release and mag release. Also, LMO has a picture of this gun on their page for ''[[Die Hard]]'' (which isn't as good as yours) and it looks identical to this.

Furthermore, I doubt this gun (the one right above) was in ''[[Die Hard 2]]'' or ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'' because I don't think either of the Berettas in that movie had the extended slide release. On the ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', I posted a picture of one of the Berettas which I took from LMO's site.

Anyway, point is, are you sure you didn't reverse the images? Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:20, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:Also, I could have sworn the Beretta Gibson used in the first ''Lethal Weapon'' had a gold Beretta logo on the grips. Did they replace it with the blacked-out one later on? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::Oh, crap...you know, I barely even grasped the scale of what you uploaded because you did so many. The Auto Ord 1911 from "Pulp Fiction", the S&W 629 and the 1911 from "XXX 2", the P7 from "True Romance"...excuse me while I go pee myself with excitement. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::And not only do we have a Jericho 941 that's stainless, but it's the '''same''' gun used in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''? (faints) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==The Berettas==

First of all, Cinema Weaponry has a display case for some of their famous movie guns? That's really awesome...do you other pictures of it? What else is in it?

Anyway, like I said, I'm pretty sure you just reversed the two Beretta images. THIS one is from ''[[Die Hard]]'':

[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9mm. This is the actual screen used Beretta carried and fired by [[Bruce Willis]] in the film.]]

Again, if you look at the picture of Willis with the 92F from "Die Hard", it looks identical. Also, wasn't there more than one of them? I've always understood that you guys are in the habit of having at least one or two back-up weapons for each "hero gun" use? Did Mike Papac configure multiple Berettas in the same way as the one used by Bruce Willis in the first "Die Hard"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:OK, I'm looking at your picture of the display case. If you want my opinion, it looks like the 92F in the center of the picture (next to the "Enemy of the State" 1911) actually was used in "Die Hard 2" and "Demolition Man". You can see that it hasn't been modified for Bruce Willis (no left-hand mag release, probably because Sylvester Stallone used it later, and he's no lefty). However, the next Beretta over is definitely the one from the first "Die Hard" - it '''does''' have the left-handed, extended mag release. However, you probably just can't see the label for the gun because it's out of the picture.

:Do you think that might explain things? We should ask Steve about this, as I'm sure he knows well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::But I forget...didn't Syd Stembridge basically take all of his remaining assets to Cinema Weaponry? I've been under the impression that Stembridge and CW essentially merged with each other after Stembridge closed down in '99. So aren't the guns that Syd kept now in Mike's hands?

::And yes, I imagine Mike must have a lot of cool stuff to photograph. One other thing you should ask about...remember the H&K G11 from ''[[Demolition Man]]''? If you can at least get the story on where that gun came from, that would be awesome. I've always wondered...did they build it themselves?

::''ALOT of them in films are still those HK94 conversions, but now we can't tell visually if they are or not.''

::True, but that just means they're identical to almost every single other transferable MP5 within the chain of commerce, which were also converted from HK94s. I forgot...was it La France that did most of the conversions of HK94s for Stembridge, Ellis, etc.? Anyway, it's good that you got the picture of the one that you have. Those things may be obvious conversions, but they're still an important part of movie gun history! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:::I figured Syd was still in business even though he doesn't seem to get many armorer credits these days - if you watch ''[[A Man Apart]]'', for instance, it says, "Weapons provided by Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry" in the credits. But I've been confused about what weapons he retained, what LMO sold, what CW received or what came under their umbrella, etc. Thanks for clearing that up.

:::So as far as the G11 goes, are you saying that the one in ''[[Demolition Man]]'' was actually a real G11 and not something that was built specially for the film? I figured it was built around something else, sort of like the way that "XXX 2" features G36Ks mocked up to look like XM8s (and I think Steve may have had a hand in that film as well). As far as getting a picture, don't worry, I won't pressure you. I realize how hard it must be. I was just curious to know if the gun in the movie was the real deal or not, because I couldn't imagine HK would ever trust some moronic actor with one of their rare prototype weapons (no offense to Wesley Snipes). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==Confusion + Overseas visit==

I think I'm about to make you a whole lot more confused...

''Mike recalls that he didn't install the extended mag release button and slide release until the second movie''

If that's what Mike recalls, then it doesn't seem to match the evidence. Here is a screencap from the '''first''' ''[[Die Hard]]'' showing the Beretta:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-62528.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

So again, this is the ''first'' movie that this image came from. If you look closely, you can see that McClane's (Willis') Beretta '''does''' have the extended slide release. Again, compare to the picture you took:

[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|]]

So Mike's memory must be failing him on this, with all due respect. It looks like he ''did'' put on the extended slide release (and mag release) for the first movie. I don't know about the Lethal Weapon movies (I don't have those on DVD), but the 92F from Die Hard 1 is a gun that has an extended slide release.

Also, did Mike do any work on ''[[Die Hard With a Vengeance]]''? I've always been under the impression that because that movie was filmed in New York, Weapons Specialists, Inc. provided the guns for that film. Rick Washburn is credited on IMDB as the armorer on ''[[Die Hard With a Vengeance]]'' (though it looks like Dave Fencl also did some work on the film). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

''I MAY have an opportunity to go overseas (France) and I will try to photograph some of Christophe Maratier's guns (Leon/Ronin/LaFemme Nikita/District B13/Taken/etc) I would like to also go picture taking in Britain at Bapty's or Sascha Robey's collection, but who knows? I don't have a connection/introduction yet with those guys. And with all the retarded gun restrictions going on over there...... ''

That is pretty wild! Unfortunately, Bapty auctioned off a whole bunch of the James Bond movie guns (including several of the original Walthers, plus the OICW replica from ''[[Die Another Day]]''), back in 2006, before the recent ban on "realistic imitation replicas" took place (they were all deactivated prior to the auction). Still, it would be really cool to see some of the stuff they still have. You would probably be able to get them to let you in, though. Dan Shea went to Bapty's back in 2003 (I think) and they let him photograph a lot of their guns (which appear on LMO's site), so if you told them who you were, you could probably get in. Have fun! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

::''Yeah, but WHO is the better photographer? ;)''

::Well, obviously...hehe. :-) The coolest thing is how you got a lot of the same guns as his site, but yours are 100x the quality. Speaking of which, have you ever considered professional gun photography for a living? Or do you already do it? Your pictures are the kind of thing that gun rags and books would kill for.

::''I was thinking of doing an actual table top book with the pics (including a bunch of other angles that I did not upload)''

::What about a book showing off specific "hero guns" from movies? Have any of you (the armorers) talked about that in the past? Of course, I guess the great thing about IMFDB is that you guys are free to use it for precisely this purpose, except that anyone can access it for free.

::''Either that or I'll say "MT2008 says you're full of SHIT!" heheheh. Those were done 23 years ago and we're all doing this from recollection.''

::Ugh, I dunno if I could stomach the idea of correcting Mike on his own work, being as I'm not an armorer. But I do realize that it's unreasonable to expect him to know all this stuff from memory. I have trouble remembering details about specific guns I shot as recently as 5 years ago. 23 years is a ''long'' time to keep details in your head, for any human being.

::As far as the (nearly) blank pages go...screw 'em. I've deleted several already. Also, one user made a page for ''[[The War Briefing]]''. I'm not sure it fits with the scope of the site. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

==re:Asshat==

It's just some dude who's upset because I gave him a temporary suspension for fucking up the ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]'' page with inaccurate info when he didn't even have the courtesy to ''ask'' before editing. Maybe I over-reacted a ''little'', being that I did most of the screencapping and other work on that page, but the sheer audacity of his rudeness just pissed me off so much that I figured he deserved a time-out.

Don't worry, I wasn't fooled for even a second when I saw the "Warning" on my talk page (you can see my responses to him [[User talk:68.233.138|here]]). And yes, I ''could'' actually report '''him''' for impersonating an FBI agent and they might complain. But, this loser is too pathetic to even bother. Besides, I have the flu right now, so I don't feel like it anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arachnid==

OK, it's really interesting you made a page for this movie...I watched it on Sci-Fi not too long ago, but couldn't remember the title! And even though I'm an ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' fan, I completely failed to recognize [[Alex Reid]] in the movie. Weird...

As far as the guns in the movie, I may be wrong, but I remember the AR-15 carbine (the long-barreled one) being a Colt Sporter-1. Or at least, I think the upper was from a Sporter-1, because that looks to me like a 16" barrel. I can't remember - was the gun ever fired on auto? I remember the Model 733 was, but I remember the other AR only being fired on semi. In which case, I suspect it's most likely a factory civilian Sporter-1.

Also, I think Chris Potter's MAC (the one which magically becomes an Uzi) is an RPB clone or something else that's smaller. Unless Chris Potter is a huge guy with huge hands (and he doesn't seem that way in any of the other stuff I've seen him in where he handles guns), the receiver on the MAC looks a bit too small for it to be an original MAC-10. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

:No worries! I would have been really upset myself. My first week here, I remember editing a page while another user made a minor edit simultaneously, and I was really pissed off too because I lost all my edits which I hadn't backed up, which was nearly an hour of work down the drain. Nowadays, I'm in the habit of copying anything I write into a Word file before submitting in case that happens.

:Anyway, back to the movie...I'm not sure if Chris Potter has such huge hands or not. Not too long ago, I was watching episodes of ''[[Kung Fu: The Legend Continues]]'' on YouTube, which he starred in. His sidearm in that show was a Beretta 92FS Inox (which had a habit of turning into a Taurus PT92 in some scenes), and it didn't seem any bigger in his hands than mine, and I don't have big hands (just long fingers). I haven't compared a MAC-10 to an Uzi in size, so I dunno what the difference is.

:Oh, yeah, and I love how he fires his MAC/Uzi sideways, "gangsta style". He used to do that with his Beretta in "Kung Fu" as well! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Browning A5==
Do you by any chance have any [[Browning A5]] shotguns in your armory, as well as a Remington Model 11 copy, since I've noticed a few pages featuring them (like [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]'s [[Thunderball]] page).

And you never got back to me on my qeustion about blank converting revolvers. It's a little further up your discussion page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==The Rundown==
I've had [[The Rundown]] screencapped for some time now (hadn't had time to upload) but would you mind if I replaced some of your shots with mine (they are larger resolution), but if you don't want me to, I could always delete my caps, but it took me a while to save them. I've had it on my list for some time now, it would really make me happy if I could upload mine. Get back to me on this. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I realized this, so I only replaced one shot of the Remington 870 because it shows just a little bit more. You're shots are still on the page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Thanks, I felt (I guess the word is self-conceous) since I knew I was uploading more screencaps than you would have, but as you see, I add comments on the crazy movie logic and other fun facts to fill out stuff (I always have a plan when I save screencaps, so I know when I plan to label these facts early, hence I sometimes have a heavy screencap load). I try to always catch EVERY gun in a movie, so I never use scene skip and rarely fast forward. When I do fast forward, I have a strange sixth sense that allows me to see guns that are only seen briefly on even normal speed. Anyway, I'll be uploading a movie called [[Legends of the Fall]] tommorow, I'm working on it now. I think it is a perfect gun movie because it covers the early 1900s, so we see old west guns, WWI guns, and prohibition gangster guns. It's great. Incredible film too, I recommend it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Revolvers again==
Copied from above:

I have a question. I know auto pistols need to be milled and threaded to fire blanks but do revolvers need to be modified to fire reliably? I once had some acorn crimped .45 LC blanks which I put through a SAA. The primers backed out from a lack of recoil and the gun locked up. I tried putting it though a Colt M1917 and it hardly fired unless I angled it right. I've seen in movies how some of the firing pins are removed from the hammers (like the S&W 36 from [[Running Scared]]). If they do need to be modified, could you tell me how exactly? Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Thanks for clearing up the SKS, that was the only model I was aware of (not an SKS pro, only know what I've seen or held at shows) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I guess I just had crappy blanks. I can't remember the brand but they were written in french or italian or something. They were acorn blanks, not those longer movie blanks. Plenty loud though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Shoot 'Em Up==
I usually use my desktop computer for screencapping and it keeps the master images at a relatively simple size so I don't need to resize them. But I screencapped [[Shoot 'Em Up]] on my sister's HP Pavilian DV-6000 laptop because my screencapper on the desktop didn't except SEU's format. Her computer is HIGH-DEF and the images were gigantic, even after I resized them. I thought they were small enough after resizing but they were still pretty big. They certainly look nice though. You can tell based on the number of screencaps that I wasn't up to re-resizing all the images because they were a tad over sized. Next time I use her laptop to screencap (get ready for a much better documentation of the Matrix films), I'll be sure to resize them correctly. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Smith and Wesson 1006 ==

Hey, MPM, could you get me a pic of a Smith and Wesson 1006? That'd be awesome, thanks.
from ProtoAuthor.

Also, from me again, how about making an UziMac10, like in Dogs of War?
::Those guns don't exist any more. Once regular Uzis became more prevalent (including the influx of semi automatic Uzi Model A and Model B carbines that were then converted into full auto guns in the 1980s) the MAC 10s were converted back to MAC-10s. And good riddance in my book. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Dang. Well, how about the 1006?

== M1911 Question ==

I was wondering, would it be possible to take the hammer and grip safety from a [[M1911 pistol series#Colt XSE|Colt XSE]] and put them on a standard M1911A1? I was thinking this might be what was done to create [[Josh Duhamel]]'s 1911 in ''[[Transformers]]''. Any input you have on this would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:15, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

== More Requests ==

I have a couple more requests

* The Custom Mossberg 590 from ''[[Rambo (2008)]]'' and ''[[Transformers]]''

* Beretta 92FS fitted with Silencier

* M40 and M40A3 Sniper Rifles

* Barrett M82A1

Thanks

From 76..219.156.200

== Badlands image sizes ==

Hey, a user converted all the 500px images I used on ''[[Badlands]]'' to 300px, but I was wondering if that was too small? I would change it back to my original 500px (or at least 400px) but I don't want to rub anyone the wrong way by undoing what was done (if they had good reason). Also, good call on the 03A3 rifle used, I had completely misidentified it! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks for clearing that up, I appreciate it. I didn't want to cause any trouble but since you'd seen the page for sure I figured you'd know best how to handle it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer==

Hi MPM. The Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer is a completely different weapon compared to the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless. The Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer is a shorter version of the Colt 1902 Military and is chambered in 38 ACP. You don't see them that much any more since the 1911 came out. We did send one out on Public Enemies but do not know if Harry used it. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: No problem but someone at Colt was not think when they named their models. I can see the salesman trying to explain it and the customer rolling their eyes and saying what are you talking about. They had some neat weapons in those early movies. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Ever used one of these?==
While I was screencapping [[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]] (I'll be uploading it very soon), I saw in the special features that they use this special gun that fires balls of dust or spark so you don't have to set up squibs anywhere to imitate bullet impact. It looked pretty cool and I was wondering if you were familiar with these. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Some shots:
[[Image:SquibGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SquibGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SquibGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:''Mythbusters had something remotely similar on an episode a while back. I say remotely, because while they created the same mini-bombs (for lack of a better term), they hand-launched them at their door instead of shooting them.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 07:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

==Watermarked Image==
Since people have been using your images without permission, I made one of your pics with a water mark. What do you think? If you like, I'll be more than happy to add it to all your images so no one steals them.
[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70watermarked.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt MK IV Series 70 with IMFDB watermark.]]
All I did was Hardlight the logo to remove the back color and faded it so it was just the logo alone. It's really easy. Get back to me. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:For now do you mind if I just warn of spoilers at the top of the page? Later I'll decide what I can get rid of (if I do). If that guy on the Rambo page is a jerk, by all means remove his images, I personally don't know him so I couldn't have known that.

Don't forget to tell me what you think of the watermark. If it is too big, I can make it smaller. Whatever you want. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up ==

Thanks for the heads up, and good luck with the shoot. It sounds cool that you're going to photograph more great guns, I can't wait to see the McMillan TAC-50 and M249 , and anything else you have, you never dissapoint. If you get more western guns, that will be great, those guns look amazing and GM45 will be thrilled. It's cool that Imfdb will have pictures that no one else has or will have. Anyway, good luck with your shoot, don't work too hard. Also, can you try to get more cool Beretta handguns like the ones you uploaded last time? sorry if I'm bugging you with Berettas alot, I'm just really anxious to see you upload a Beretta 92FS Inox, it's one of the pictures I want most, that's all. Once again, good luck. Also did you tell any other armorers about Imfdb?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, sorry I didn't respond earlier, but I have a '''burning''' request and I'm hoping you get this message before you go to CW again.

:You know those weird AKMSU clones (in 7.62x39mm) that have AKS-74U-style folding stocks? They've appeared in a zillion movies, and I know they must be the same guns being reused a lot. I think they're just full-size AK variants (Type 56s or Maadis, maybe) that have been converted with Krinkov parts kits. I have no idea whose inventory they're in, but I've seen them in a lot of movies that Mike Papac and other CW armorers worked on, which leads me to guess that CW must have at least a couple of them in inventory (unless they sub-rented from a different armory).

:Here is what I'm talking about:

[[Image:XxXAKMSU.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''[[XXX]]'']]

[[Image:BB2AKS-74U.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''[[Bad Boys II]]'']]

[[Image:A_MAN_APART-19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''[[A Man Apart]]'']]

[[Image:TtAKMSU-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''[[Tropic Thunder]]'']]

They've also appeared in movies like ''[[Three Kings]]'', ''[[Crank]]'', ''[[The Kingdom]]'', etc. If you were to take a picture of one of these guns, I think it would probably become our standard AKMSU photo, because probably 90% of the AKMSU-type guns I've seen in movies seem to be these same guns. If you can get one on short notice, great. If not, no worries. But have fun! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

==Titles starting with "the"==
Personally I've always hated the format of putting "The" at the end, despite it being considered "prop format" and personally I like the titles the way they are. If it is absolutely necessary to make this change, go ahead, but I don't like it. I think titles look fine the way the are "MoviePropMaster2008, User:".

And for the people who make fun of us in chatrooms, FUCK EM! People make diggs at us all the time, but the ten or so admins. on the site work hard and productive and are constantly combating 1000s of anonymous users daily, which is more than most can say. We do what we do right and anyone who mocks our work is a dumbass. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Getting tired of pictures? Every time you upload more guns, I feel like I'm getting presents, because I love seeing awesome new pictures of guns, especially movie guns. I almost peed myself with excitement when you uploaded all those screen-used weapons (like the P220 from "Live Free or Die Hard") on your last update.

:The titles thing may be able to be fixed as well, without actually doing any redirects. There may be a way to sort titles so that the word "The" is ignored. I know that on my iPod, bands that have the word "The" before them are grouped by the next word in their names on my "Artists" list. It can't be that hard to find a command which sorts them differently. I'll see if I can find it.

:And I share GM's sentiments on the people's who talk shit about us. They're just lames. Who cares what they think? If they were better than us, they'd actually make their own sites that are as thorough and informative as ours. Besides, I think IMFDB has already been influential in a lot of ways. I already see people on other gun boards distinguish now between a basic "AK-47" and a Norinco Type 56 look-a-like, which seems to be a trend we helped start, now that we've told people what to look for. For every negative comment I read about IMFDB, I see 10x as many people who love our site. Besides, how else do you explain the ridiculous number of views we've had in the last year? (nearly 3x as many in 2008 as 2007, the first year of operations) The numbers don't lie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

::Nah, dude, I don't disagree with you that it's annoying, what I'm saying is that there may be a way to fix it besides doing re-directs (which is going to take ages if you want to do it). You may be able to fix the page code so that the listing ignores the word "The" if it comes at the beginning of a title. That way, a movie like "The Dark Knight" would be grouped under "D" even if it was listed as "The Dark Knight" instead of "Dark Knight, The". -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==re: AK issues==

No, I don't hate you...actually, I've had the same thought myself for a while. The AK-47 page is getting too long and now includes variants it wasn't really meant to include. However, my idea for the solution is a bit different - that is, I'm not so sure we need to give the guns their own pages based on country of origin.

Broadly speaking, I think the AK-47 page should be limited to AK variants that are 7.62x39mm. You and I both know that the 7.62x39mm AKs which appear in movies and TV shows are the same types that used to be imported to the U.S. in the 1980s as civilian sporters. What that means is that the list is actually pretty limited - you've got the Egyptian Maadis, the Chinese Type 56s, the Hungarian SA-85Ms, and the Yugo M70s, and that's pretty much it. Of course, we've also seen the Romanian AIMS in a couple of movies (like "44 Minutes"), so maybe that one, too. So we can still classify the 7.62x39mm AKs by country, but on the SAME page instead of separate pages. You've told me yourself that armorers mostly stick to the old 1980s-vintage AKs and don't ever buy any of the newer guns (like the crappy Romaks and the Century Arms POSs), so doesn't that make our job pretty simple? We don't necessarily have to look for the more obscure derivatives that will only (at best) show up in movies filmed in countries where those guns were manufactured.

Besides grouping the 7.62x39mm AKs by their country of origin, I propose we also do the following:

*-'''Put the Norinco Type 84 on the [[AK-74]] page instead''': The logic being, the Type 84 often stands in for the AK-74 in American and Canadian movies/TV shows ("Stargate: SG1" being a good example), so why not put it on a page with the gun it's meant to imitate?
*-'''Move ALL AK-100 variants to their own page''' Even though they're basically modest updates of the classic AK-47 design, they're still different enough by name that I think they need their own page.
*-'''Keep any AK derivatives that are significantly different on their pages''' What this means is that something like the AEK-971 should not be on the AK-47 page. And likewise, the Galil and Valmet (which already have their own pages) need to be kept there.
*-'''Refuse to allow any foreign-made derivatives that don't appear in at least a few movies'''

How do you think that sounds? Maybe my defensive reflex is a bit strong on this, but I do really want to keep weapons that are basically identifiable as AK-47s and AKMs on one page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Question:
Hey, MPM, how do movie effects people do RPG fire? Is it all CG, do they launch a dummy tip and edit it out, or what?

== Re: Titles ==

I knew somebody would start changing the titles like that eventually, a few users complained about it, and a website even noted to look for titles beginning with '''The''' in the '''T''' section. The redirects you did worked out great, I think the movies with '''The''' in their titles will be easier to find that way, good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, that makes things much easier! Should we also do the same with titles beginning with "A" or "An"? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
I just finished [[The Boondock Saints]] and am in a pause between movies, were you planning to do this one or can I (I noticed you added shots)? It's been at the bottom of my pile for a while and it wouldn't hurt to start digging from the bottom now. If you have stuff saved, you can of course do it, but if not let me know if I can. Thanks. Great gun pics you've uploaded, we've needed a G36 for a while and the StG 44 is excellent. Superb work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I did the Matrix on my sister's laptop, which puts out some really big pics. I sent them to my desktop and uploaded them on the site but didn't have time to resize them. They look fuzzy? I thought they looked great. I'll be doing the other Matrix movies on the laptop too, but I'll try to resize those shots first. I'm super pissed right now because I screencapped Mr. & Mrs. Smith and 50 of the screencaps didn't save. So now I have to go back and grab the shots, many of which are from gun heavy scenes. So I had planned to upload the caps by tommorow but my crappy as computer has other plans. BTW, I only use my sister's laptop when the DVD doesn't have the right format and won't play on my screencapper (a rarity, but it happens), so I don't use it too often. It's her computer so I obviously can't bogart it for my own means alone. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Your images look a lot better, but didn't you buy this special machine that screencaps VHS and DVDs? I'd assume that would put out better images than any simple DVD player like mine. If I had put more time into it, I could have brightened the pictures to look better (I do that more commonly when adding caps to one of your pages, because my caps look like crap next to yours if I don't edit them). Compared to my regular desktop images, you can see why I would find the laptop ones more appealing. You'll see when I upload Mr. & Mrs. Smith that I brightened the pics. My personal favorite screencap from the Matrix is the Desert Eagle cycling blanks, it just looks cool. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::BTW, how come your images are so small? Usually when I upload images, they are just a little bigger than the sample picture with a full resolution preview. Yours have no higher resolution. Do you resize them to this point to save space or does your screencapper just produce small pics? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Admins==
I had figured he had had quite a probabtion period, but the one with power makes the decisions, not me. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== re: Congratulations! ==

Thanks! It's an honor to be a part of such a talented group. And I certainly understand, no need taking a risk when it's not necessary! While we're on the subject of controlling some of the stuff anonymous users add, I recall seeing a section about spoilers on the forums. I noticed today that someone had changed some of the words on my page for ''[[Godfather Part III, The]]'' to include some spoilers about the action happening (such as main characters getting killed, etc.) I realize this user was probably trying to help others specifically note when the gun was used, but that's what the screencaps are for. Would it be rude to rollback some of this user's suggestions to the previous format (which was more vague about deaths and killings in the film) or were they correct in adding this information? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: Spoilers ==

Absolutely, that helped a ton! There are also a few in the ''[[Scarface]]'' page which, in my opinion, needs some revamping (especially since its one of our most popular pages). I'm thinking of capping it sometime soon when I have about four hours to spare, so hopefully it'll look very cleaned up relatively soon. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Mr. & Mrs. Smith pistols==
I had them IDed as a Browning Buckmark Camper with a suppressor and a Ruger Mk III with a suppressor. Your caps are a tad clearer than mine, and now I'm even more sure I was right. (I'll likely use your caps instead of mine since they show the guns better)

As for the big room full of pistols, that is awesome. I can just image that when you open the door, blinding light shines through and a choir sings. I could spends hours upon hours in there.

BTW, the Beretta 93R pic looks great.

I'm almost done working on M&MS, it's a big movie and has been taking me a long time to finish. I've also brightened my caps so they look nice. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Gun Room Pic ==

Just saw the pic you posted of the Stembridge handgun room, and to quote [[James Earl Jones]] in ''[[The Hunt for Red October]]'': '''"Mother of god..."''' [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, I love when you post the pictures of vaults/armories and such. Thanks for sharing those with us. Also, the new gun pics lately (the G36, Sturmgewehr, Beretta 93R, etc.) are much appreciated! Sorry I haven't been around as much lately; I have kind of a lot going on right now. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== RE: You might get a kick out of this ==

Wow, all I can say is Handgun Heaven! That collection truly is amazing, it has everything from Flintlocks to Semi-Automatics, I enjoy it when you take pictures of vaults and museum cases, they're really cool. Btw, the G36 rifles, the Beretta 93R, and the other photos you uploaded this past week are amazing, thank you for uploading.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Who supplied armorers [[CornerShot|CornerShot's]] ==

I been to every gun selling site and read every youtube video and could not ever find a
[[CornerShot|CornerShot]] on auction. Probably because CNN said this weapon system will onfortunately not be sold to civilians. Were these weapons systems real or replicas if they were real how could armorer's get them when they originated from IRAQ?[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1993]] 22:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== gun room picture ==

They have an incredibly impressive collection there! That seems like one of those places that once you enter, you'd never want to leave! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==SP89 used in ''The Rock''==
Hi, I would like to know more about the H&K SP89 used in The Rock (1996).

Was it actually, based on a H&K SP-89? or just a H&K MP5k plus a SP89 type front grip?

Also,i would like to know What's the trigger set of it? 0-1? S-E-F? or with Navy type?

Would you mind to post a photo of it?

Thx a lot~

[[User:Friendsever|Friendsever]]

==Proper Quote==
That was my bad, I could have sworn he said "Kids." Thanks for clearing that up and going through the effort of screencapping it with subtitles. I'm working on the Glocks now, then I won't have much more to add. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Reply==
I'd probably stick my hand in the cubby with the MP5K-PDWs or the one with the sawed off/pistol grip shotguns below it to the left.

As for the "Colt 25", it is indeed a Colt 1908 Pocket chambered in .25 ACP, but most newcomers (and the person who made the page) know the cheap airsoft gun's name, which is the "Colt 25". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I was reading the Dawn of the Dead page, and I agree that the M16 they used looks more real than an Armscor. I own an Armscor M1600, it hits almost dead-on at 80yards but the pistol grip cracked so I don't use it much anymore. It hardly looks like an M16 at all. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::How do I get my own room like that? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Imagine if you will....... ==

Wow, how big is Cinema Armory? I would look in the one that the green Beretta looking handgun in it. What is that green handgun anyway? That is a very cool picture btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

==Sigma SW9F==

Thanks so much for that one! It's cool that we now have a standard black Sigma as well as the grey one. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==
I don't know. I had originally changed the Mustang because it had its own page and added it to the 1911. Basically it is still a Compact 1911 variant in .380 ACP (even refered to as Colt Government Model .380 by some and derived from such), but then again they make the Imbel M973 in 9mm and the Imbel MD1 in .38 Super Auto and both of them are fit for the 1911 page and based on the 1911 model. So my vote is no. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re: Chamelot Delvigne Model 1873==
The Chamelot Delvigne Model 1873 was issued in the white only they were never blued by the French. Strange to us that someone would issue a bare metal weapon any finishing or caliber mods were done by gunsmith here in the states. We had ten of them at Ellis and they were beautiful in the white. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Re: Die Hard 2 "MP5s"==

I don't think we can call the MP5A3s in ''[[Die Hard 2]]'' "fake" MP5A3s because if you look closely, they don't seem to be partial conversions. On Stewart's MP5, you can see that it has a barrel with three attachment lugs, and the lower receiver has a pushpin (for swapping out different types) and a flipper magazine release. The partially-converted HK94s wouldn't have any of that stuff.

The MP5 handled by McClane (the one with the scope) may or may not be an HK94 partial conversion; I will have to check my DVD to be sure. But for now, I'm just going to call them MP5A3s because unless the gun is a partial HK94 conversion, we shouldn't call it a "fake" MP5 (even though we both know that 99% of transferable MP5s in the U.S. were actually converted from HK94s). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

:Oh, I don't disagree with you that we should separate the HK94s from the MP5 if they are '''partial''' conversions. I've been trying to do that more and more often myself (see my ''[[Air Force One]]'' page, for instance). But the only thing I'm saying is, '''the Die Hard 2 MP5s are ''not'' partial conversions.''' Therefore, we can't really call them "fake". I think your eye just slipped. The ones in the movie are the full conversions which are visually indistinguishable from standard MP5A3s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

::Just checked my DVD. The scoped MP5A3 used by McClane is also a full conversion (it has an SEF lower and barrel lugs, which are visible when he pulls it out of the snow, takes out the mag, and realizes it's loaded with blanks). But it's all good, since we're on the same page now, as you said. ;)

::I do appreciate the new pics! The AKMS and SL8 are quite nice, but the main one I was happy about was the S&W Sigma SW9F you gave me for my ''[[American Dragons]]'' page. Even though the Sigma doesn't appear in too many movies, it's really great we have one those now! Thanks again for all your hard work! As far as new users making too many gun pages...screw 'em. I mentioned my stance on this in that topic on the forum. Check it out.

::Oh, yeah, and did you see that we were able to use your Daewoo DP51/K5 picture on the page for the game ''[[Combat Arms]]''? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Smith & Wesson Model 60 Hammerless ==

I was wondering, did you ever upload a picture of a [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]] with a shaved hammer? I could have sworn we had a pic of such a gun here but when I went looking for it for the ''[[CSI: NY]]'' page I couldn't find one. Any help you could provide on this would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Beast of War'' Screenshots ==

I love the new screenshots, way better than the crappy Youtube stills I had up. Thanks a lot for screencapping this page for me. One note though; the tank used in the film is actually a Ti-67; a T55 that was modified by the Israeli's , most notably having the main gun upgraded from the original 100mm D-10T to a western-built 105mm L7 gun (the same kind used in the American M60 Patton and the earliest version of the M1 Abrams). Thanks again for the new screencaps, looking forward to seeing the rest of them. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks so much ==

Thank you so much for the 870, it looks amazing! I'm wondering the same thing, maybe he wanted to mock the 870 up to look like a Mossberg 590 with Ghost ring sights. But we got to admit, it sure does look badass, thanks again for the shotgun. if you need anything, just ask.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:49, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Thanks for the Beast updates ==

I saw this film several times on TV a few years back, but I haven't been able to catch more than Youtube clips (where the previous low-res screenshots came from) lately. Some of the info came from those clips, while the rest came from memory and research on IMDB and Wikipedia. As for the screenshot captions, I don't mind at all, makes my job easier. I remember the film also has a firearm-related Rudyard Kipling quote at the beginning. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Dawn of the Dead Shotgun ==

If anyone deserves thanks it's you, but you're welcome. Also, since we're talking about shotguns, do you think you could get an old wood stock set on a Mossberg 590 for the Dead Presidents page? ~[[User:yournamehere|Yournamhere]] (I forgot my name, silly me.)

== Re: Dawn of the Dead Shotgun ==

Thanks again, it looks even more menacing now, a true zombie killer. One question, did you have to do something specific to the shotgun to get the sights on? such as drilling holes?. Anyway, thanks again for the shotgun, it was well worth the wait.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Omega Man pictures ==

Hey great work on the OM page. I don't have the ability to capture stills from a DVD with my PC (I don't think I do) so way to go. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Yep I'm a fan of Omega Man. ==

I'm forty-one and I remember going to a drive in with my parents back in the summer of 73 and watching Omega Man. It was the second feature, but dad says that I stayed awake for the entire movie. Pretty impressive for a five year old.

I own a copy of I Am Legend, but I prefer OM. Own both actually.

The only guns I own from the movie are a 1911A1 and a 1903A3.Whoops sorry I do own an M-1 carbine as well. I own several S&W revolvers , but unfortunately they never make an appearance in the movie. And I belong to a couple Omega Man websites. For those who like the movie.

I don't own any selective fire weapons. Out of my price range right now.

My wife hates it. Oh well. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: Orphaned Image==
It belonged to the ''[[Quigley Down Under]]'' page, but I had replaced all the images later on since QDU was my first page I screencapped and had all widescreen shots. I didn't know that if you saved over an image, it eventually stopped getting stretched, and I wasn't an Admin. yet so I couldn't delete them myself. I deleted that image and any other from that movie that pop up in random images. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Mauser Rifle Series==
I was wondering since you added the Mauser 98 to the page if you think the Gew 98 should be on the same page instead of a separate page? I was thinking that it should be for everything else except the popular Gew98 ans K98k rifles. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: You rock on the Mauser photos they are beautiful. At Ellis we had 1891, 1895, 1898. Model 1935 and VZ's I just have to find my repair records before I list them. Thanks Steve

==re:==

I'm in the habit of making LOTS of new redirects, meaning that I do new pages for gun variants that we have grouped on particular pages, and then I redirect to the group page. The advantage is that it makes it simpler to insert gun page links when I'm doing a movie/TV page. Like, who wants to write '''<nowiki>[[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Tactical|Heckler & Koch USP Tactical]]</nowiki>''' when you can just write '''<nowiki>[[Heckler & Koch USP Tactical]]</nowiki>''' and be done with it? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

==Heckler & Koch MP7A1 and Heckler & Koch 416 ==

HI MoviePropMaster, I'm Gerry.I want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload pictures of a Heckler & Koch MP7A1 and the Keckler & Koch 416 I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.

==XM16E1 Photo==
Hey MPM, I hope that it did not upset you on the XM16E1 photo it was a configuration that most people have never seen or own. It was just one that was missing and the mod was a flash hider, chrome carrier to go with We Were Soldiers. If I did sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Your Break==
You deserve a break, you've done a lot of hard work for us. I hope you find taking pics fun again, just remember, you alone have taken more movie gun pics than any other on the net. It was my fault for starting the whole Frankengun thing, but I think the best way to fix it is to not allow it from now on, and credit you for any of the ones in current use. I can imagine it must be frustrating to have people messing with your work. It annoys me how people like Kin93 almost MASS-PRODUCE your images in this manner, and I don't see your name anywhere on "his" pics. At least Steve told you he used your M16A1 and M16 pics. Kin93 never even contacted you. Anyway, hope your hiatus ends soon, we all love your gun pics and apoligize for those who don't appreciate them. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:On the one hand, I think you definitely deserve a break. IMFDB doesn't pay the bills, after all, and anything you do for us should be done because you enjoy it, not because you feel obligated to do it.

:On the other hand, I don't think you should take it too personally if IMFDB users make "franken gun" pictures. Yes, they should give you credit (as Kin93 failed to do), but it doesn't mean they don't appreciate your work. Whenever someone does that to you again, you should warn them that you don't like them butchering your work, but please don't treat all of IMFDB as if we're like this. Besides your gun pictures (which are awesome), you're one of the most valuable people on this site. Even if you never post another gun picture again, your presence would be greatly missed. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Break ==

Sorry to hear about your most recent problem, and I agree, they should atleast give you credit when they edit your pictures, that's what I would do. And believe me, there are a quite a few users on here who apprecite your work. You are one of the most important users on this site because you have helped bring this site very far, and if there is anyone who deserves a break, it is definitely you. Hopefully you'll be able to find taking gun pictures fun again, and come back, but until then, enjoy your break. You will be missed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

'''Edit''' MPM2008, When you come back, I think you should see this:[http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MK23]

==RE: THANKS! for the note of support==
I'm glad to see your back and I'm sorry you had a tough time. We all missed you though, the site felt a little less complete without you. Sorry to hear that guy took credit for your work, I'm sure he'll get his soon enough >:)

BTW, check out the Dirty Harry movies, I've been working on them lately (I finished [[Enforcer, The|The Enforcer]] most recently) and am trying to get [[Sudden Impact]] done by tommorow. Anyway, welcome back! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: THANKS! for the note of support ==

Glad to have you back, and sorry to hear about the tough time you had during your break. Sorry to hear about the shotgun too, hopefully the credit found it's way to who it really belongs to. And I find those Franken Gun picture amusing too, everytime I see one, I wonder to myself how they do that, but figured it was photoshoping, did you see this one?:

[[Image:CustomNorthHollywoodAR15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Hybrid gun made to resemble the firearm used by Emil Matasareanu in the North Hollywood Shootout - 5.56mm]]

About the Wiki page I showed you, [[User:Cutaway|Cutaway]] uploaded your picture of the Mark 23 with the supressor on it on that site, but I also contacted MT2008 about it as well, and Cutaway agreed to take it off the page, don't be hard on Cutaway though, I don't think he knew that you didn't want your pictures on other sites.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

==Glad you're back!==

I'm relieved you came back. The past couple weeks just have not been the same with you gone. I totally understand what you said, though.

In your absence, we've still been enforcing rules regarding your pictures. Alienqueen and I took care of the pictures that Cutaway posted on the Gunpedia Wiki (he complied with my request to remove them). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

==Welcome back!==
Hey MPM, Glad that you are back hope things went well. I have been putting in some long hours down south also. Good to see your back at it. If there is anything we can do to help let us know. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Re: AMT Pistols page==
I haven't been talking to Rockwolf actually, I just figured I'd make the page because we needed it. It's understandable that no one wanted them, they are ugly and fire mostly unique cartridges. They are like 1911s on steroids. Anyway, I had Auto Mags on the mind because of the Sudden Impact page I'm soon to upload. BTW, how the hell do you write Auto Mag? Is it Auto Mag, AutoMag, or Automag? I figured it was the first since that's what's written on the gun in your pic (which looks great). That's a 180, right?

I'm proud of my Auto Mag III picture, since it was originally a gun on a rug, but I took the rug out. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::So should I change the page name to [[AMT Auto Mag Pistol Series|AMT AUTOMAG Pistol Series]]? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==re: Executive Decision==

Thank you, sir. Though I think did get maybe a ''little'' carried away with pics of the Glock 19 (seven total, one of which shows just the magazine). Usually, when I do that, it's because a movie has made me enamored with the particular gun that gets more screencaps than the rest. Watching "Executive Decision" has given me the worst urge to go out and blow $$$$$ I need for tuition on a Gen 1 Glock 19.

''When I see the 'crazy terrorist' with the Norinco Type 56-1 I always expect him to scream "I Blow You! Mother Bitches!!!!!" hahahahahaha.''

Haha, I should have recognized him! It was indeed Shaun Toub [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0869467/] who played both the crazy(er) terrorist with the AK folder in "Executive Decision", as well as the store clerk in "Bad Boys". -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

OK, wow, it happens that you post on my Talk Page at the same time I'm writing a response on yours! Haha. Thanks for the new "44 Minutes" M16 pic. Again, whenever you get around to it...Best, [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Request==

Excuse me, but I have a request. Could you combine your Remington 870 Folding stock, Ithaca 37, and MP40 images to make the cool looking Ithaca 37 from ''[[The Professionals]]''? You just take the a pistol grip of the Remington, add it on to the Ithaca 37, and then put MP40 stock on it. I would really appreciate it. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

::Here's a picture

[[Image:Prosm37.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

==The Last Crusade==
Excellent work with the page, that was always my favorite Indy film (Indiana Jones, I mean). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm glad to here you're doing all the Indiana Jones films, I was so sick of how crappy they were. And I agree, your screencaps look very clear. I have to brighten and sharpen my images just so they can even come close to yours. I just finished brightening and resaving all the Sudden Impact caps so I'll upload them tommorow if all things go well. I should probably go to sleep, it's 3:35am. But tommorow's Saturday and it's spring break from school so who cares? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Redacted==
I can image that movie offended you (and other veterans), it made all soldiers look like pyschopathic rapists. But I cannot say I would want it removed. Why? Because then we are just as one-sided as the admins. on Wikipedia who delete all the negative crap about President Obama (remember how much we criticized that?). While the movie is offensive (as is Bowling for Columbine), they still have guns so who are we to say they are unfit to be documented on here. (but understand I still am for what you said, the movie was very offensive).

I'm a good example of why Redacted should stay on the site (about 4 years ago). I watched the film but didn't know all the guns that well, and thought "I wonder what they are using. What AK is that?" Even though I didn't like the movie these questions still arose. I doubt I'm the only person in the world who's done this, so those who hated the movie but still wanted to know what guns were used are at a loss.

So my vote for deletion is "no". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Edit: I understand you aren't picking on me, you have every right to hate the movie, as does every veteran. I just think that how you feel about a movie doesn't mean it should be removed from the site. Hopefully you understand what I mean and not think I'm being on sided or anything. I totally agree with you about the film. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== imfdb is now controversial? ==

When did this happen? I haven't seen or heard anything.And if the site is now controversial who is upset about us? [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==V.I.P.==
Great job with [[V.I.P.]] so far. I haven't seen that show in a million years. I finally got the Dirty Harry movies done! Now I have a ton of other Eastwood films I'm going to do. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm not positive on what it is but it ''might'' be a Beretta 21A Bobcat threaded for suppressor, similair to this one:

[[Image:Beretta21ABobcatSuppressed.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Beretta 21A Bobcat threaded for a suppressor - .22 LR.]]

==Fictional Firearm article moves==
I like the changes you made to the fictional firearm titles, but gramatically speaking, the apostrophe should be before the 's'. It would only be placed after if it is a plural word ending in 's'. For example, the possessive of oceans would be oceans'. If it is singular it always ends in "'s" even if the word ends in 's' such as Jesus's. Hope that helps, if you care. -[[User:Unbreakablewatcher|UW]]
::fuck I should have known that. I was tired and it was late. I will change it later. Thx. MPM

==re: Browning BDA==

Nah, unfortunately, I totally forgot about the BDA when I did the page. Gunmaster was the one who recognized it based on your picture. For some reason, I kept thinking it was a Beretta of some kind and spent 20 minutes searching Beretta photos. My brain is kinda dead right now because I let myself get talked into running 8 miles this afternoon, on only 4 hrs. sleep.

I don't think it's a problem if you want to create pages for some new guns that may/may not be in movies. The only thing I find annoying is when people make pages for guns that ''couldn't'' appear in movies because they're only rare prototypes or variants that you know armorers wouldn't have (like the original SR9). Also, if you ever want to upload your MAG-7 shotgun picture, we can put it on the ''[[Romeo + Juliet]]'' page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Barb Wire==

Hey,

It's awesome you're screencapping ''[[Barb Wire]]'', but I thought I'd make some comments here (so we don't have edit conflicts) after looking at the screencaps with my eagle eyes ;)

*(1.) The SIG-Sauer is a P228, not a P226. You can see in the first shot that the trigger guard is rounded, not squared like on the 226. Denzel Washington used an identical gun (maybe even the same one) in the movie "Virtuosity", with that same custom laser-control grip. LMO has a picture of it on their site under their "Movie Guns" section.
*(2.) The gun you IDed as a Browning Hi-Power also seems to be the two-tone P228.
*(3.) The Congressionals' M16s look to me like the MGC replica M16s, except with A2 handguards and A1 flash hiders. If you look closely, it seems they have the same style forward assist as the MGC M16s.

Here's the "Virtuosity" P228, which, again, looks like it's the same one that's used in "Barb Wire": http://www.longmountain.com/movieguns/Virtuosity

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

:''also you notice that there's a bunch more guys posting FULL frame screengrabs? versus widescreen? should I replace a full frame shot with a widescreen of the same shot (thus showing more of the picture?)..... MPM''

:I don't think it matters TOO much. I use widescreen myself when I can, but full frame is fine, too. As long as the guns are visible, that will do. :)

:As far as replacing the Franken-guns, go for it. I've said before - nobody's entitled to complain when you replace images because yours are better (and they involve actual effort besides just going to Google or Photoshopping other pics). However, I'm starting to wonder how we can even begin to get every single variant. I mean, let's face it...there are SO many different Franken-M16s, H&Ks, etc. that you'd go insane trying to get every little variation. I wouldn't sweat it too much. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

== Image ==

About the picture, remember when the servers switched back in October? Well, two images you uploaded were lost. I wasn't sure if you noticed or not, so I took that image from the old server and uploaded here, and credited to you.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

== images ==

What with people overwriting images with the same images that are already on the site?

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Glock23.jpg]
[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg]

--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==Crank: High Voltage==
I was watching the red band trailer for [[Crank: High Voltage]] and I took some caps but the video quality was so crappy only one of the pics was even close to site-worthy. Since you seem pretty good at finding excellent quality HD trailers, I was wondering if you could take a look at it. That is if you aren't too busy. Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I watched ''[[Enemy at the Gates]]'' last night and saw some guns you missed, so I added the caps to the page, as well as a few minor add ons to the existing guns. It's your page of course so you decide what can stay or go. I tried to make every shot I took very important and took as few as possible. You may notice my images match yours pretty close, I finally figured out how to match your cap format. I need to brighten a little more though, they still look too dark. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
: Like I said, it is ''your'' page, you can remove any images I added if you don't like them. I only added one image to the Mosin Nagant section so Joseph Fiennes could have an image for his page if needed, and added two to the sniper version, because they were pretty good close ups. I also added three shots to the Kar98k sniper section, although the closeup in his room isn't the best so I suppose it could go. It's all up to you. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE:==

I definitely do not remember that one being in the third "Die Hard" movie. Our page doesn't have it, either. Hmmm...

As for the last post: '''"All you need for a movie is a girl and a gun."''' - Jean-Luc Godard (and yeah, he was a commie bastard, but he spoke wisdom on this point) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
:A DEA agent used one in ''[[Con Air]]'' if you were wondering. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Yeah, I'm replying to what you said in Matt's talk page. Now that I think of it, that ''could'' be th gun Pamela Anderson is holding. I'll check out Bionic Woman now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Category:B&W==
Hey MPM, I like your new sub-category for B&W films I came up with an idea for you. How about a category for Widescreen since it did not exist until after World War II somewhere about 1951 or 1952. Just a thought for you. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Happy Easter to you too MPM. Don't let them get to you. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Bionic Woman==

Nice job on the page! It needs gun photos and links, of course, but we'll get on that. Anyway, here are some quick observations...

*(1.) The MP5s you IDed as MP5A4s seem to have collapsible stocks, which makes them MP5A5s.
*(2.) The Serbian gangster's pistol, which you IDed as an S&W 5904, looks like a Browning BDA (the DA version of the Hi-Power, not the BDA-380).
*(3.) John got the last two right...they are a CZ-75 (or some clone) and a two-tone Walther P99, respectively.

Take care. Hope you had a happy Easter! Also, when I get home (I'm at work now...ugh) I'll have to put in my "Die Hard III" DVD and see where that Seecamp 32 that's on LMO's site appeared. I really don't remember it, but I'll look for you. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==

Ah, thanks for the new gun pictures! We '''really''' needed a two-tone Walther P99 because there are a LOT of movies that have them (''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]'', ''[[Underworld]]'', ''[[A History of Violence]]'', ''[[Far Cry (2009)|Far Cry]]'', etc.) I thought about asking you for one a while ago, but decided I should let you prioritize other stuff. Also, while I don't have screencaps for it, there were Browning BDAs used by Tibetan separatists in an episode of ''[[Ultimate Force]]'', so we can use that one on that page, too.

''Also what is with the gigantic ... but blurry ... screenshots that I see other users uploading?''

What do you mean? Can you show me examples? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==Spawn AMT 380 Backup Pistol==
Hey MPM, That AMT 380 Backup Pistol that's used in Spawn is just dirty or due to the lighting. AMT built the Backups in Stainless Steel only with the frame and top of the slide bead blasted. My aunt worked at AMT and I knew Harry Sanford since I was a kid until he passed away. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey MPM, No problem on the id for the Backup. AMT which was the last name for that company had several locations. As a kid I went to two different El Monte shops and my aunt worked at both Covina and Irwindale. I think my aunt has a couple of the earlier Backups I will see if I can get a photo of them. I filled in a few blank spots on unknown weapons on pages. It was fun doing that as making new pages can get a little tiring. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT==

The AMT Backup is really nice! It's good we have a picture of one for my ''Spawn'' page. I was about to upload a Google image search result, but obviously, yours is waaayy better.

So, I checked "Die Hard III" (got through about an hour last night, another hour this afternoon) and I don't know where the hell that Seecamp .32 appears in the movie. Either my eagle eyes are failing me (possible), or LMO got their facts wrong. Or maybe it was rented for "Die Hard III" for a scene that wasn't filmed. But it appears nowhere in the finished film that I can tell. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Scarface talk page ==

Yeah, now that I read what it said you're probably right. I just assumed it was some anonymous user trying to cause trouble. Whether it was or not, you're right - the discussion there is invalid now so I got rid of it again. Thanks for prompting me to take a second look, you were definitely right. Oh and a quick sidenote, the ''[[Bionic Woman]]'' page is looking great! You certainly put a good deal of work into that it looks like. I didn't get to see it when it was on but it looks pretty good from the caps you got. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

==High Standard 8111 page==
Hey MPM,I placed your High Standard K120 Shotgun photo on this page although the page name is not correct. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] listed it by the High Standard catalog number 8111 instead of the Model name '''High Standard FLITE KING'''. If you could fix this please. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey MPM, Thanks for the correction on the page. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Thanks ==

I can certainly understand the burnout feeling, especially when working with TV shows with so many episodes. That would be great if they would get those pictures; IMFDB is certainly indebted to you for all the hard work you're doing to get us exclusive pictures like that! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:35, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Did you take this picture?==
No, I just jacked it from google and touched it up with photoshop. Feel free to replace it whenever you want. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE:==

That would be REALLY cool if you got pictures of some of the sci-fi guns. There are a lot of pics of the Moritas floating around the 'Net, but most of them are (A.) shit quality, or (B.) the rubber stunt versions. We both know yours will inevitably be 100x better! Haha.

Also, I notice you were curious about these machine pistols from ''[[Timecop]]'':

[[Image:TimeCop-AutoGunS00a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]

I don't know what this damn thing is called, but it appears in quite a few TV shows and movies. Excalibur got some GREAT pics of them appearing in ''[[Smallville]]'':

[[Image:Clownrobbers2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

They also appeared in at least one episode of the TV show ''[[Viper]]'' (which also had the ''[[Timecop]]'' Taurus PT99 in its pilot episode) and I think I remember seeing them in an episode of ''[[The X-Files]]'' as well. Some of the ones used in ''[[Smallville]]'' seem to be the same ones used in ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'', and we have a picture of a rubber stunt version:

[[Image:Gun Cylon stunt.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Do you think your Canadian armorer acquaintances would have any idea what they might be? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

That "Cylon Gun" is a different one, look at the cocking handle on the side. It's similar, but different. Also, I can get some Moritas up, though they are Watermarked from the site I got them off. -protoAuthor

== Re: Image overwrites ==

I agree with you about the overwrites, I think you should be only one who is allowed to decide whether your images are to be overwritten or not. It just annoys me when some random user overwrites one of your images when it's not theirs. BTW, Great job on you most recent gun pictures.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Old Movies==
Hey MPM, Thanks for the compliment on the old movies that I have been posting. Some of them are harder to get clean screencaps on as the master has not been restored. But that is something I a lot of in my own library so I will keep filling the empty spots. I also have westerns dating back than also those will come in due time. One more note for you as it is important to both of us SAG signed Friday and will announce Monday. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== re: bourne ==

Thanks! Yeah, I figured that because of its age and its less action-oriented story it would have less guns but it surprised me! Trying to identify that rifle really bothered me, I looked through a bunch of H&K and SIG rifles but then when I saw the side shot of it (which is much too brief), I wondered the same thing about the Ruger. That was really the only trouble I had save for the two pistols I currently have labelled as "unidentified" and the CZ-82 I had labelled as a Makarov (but GM45 helped out a good bit with identifying that, as well as noting the Beretta as an original 92 model rather than the 92S I had it labelled as). All in all it wasn't a bad movie at all, if some parts were a little slow (probably to draw in a more diverse audience rather than the typical espionage/action crowd. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 18:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

==Re: New images==

'''Nice!''' I'm so glad we have a two-tone Jericho now. It seems like every other action movie made these days features the lead bad guy using a gun in the exact same configuration. As far as getting a two-tone FS model, I think it's mostly the British armorers who use that model because as best I know, the 941FS was the only version ever sold in Europe. I think the two-tone 941FS pistols that you see in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'', ''[[Casino Royale]]'', ''[[Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life]]'', and ''[[Children of Men]]'' are all the exact same gun, because all of those shows were supplied by Crowntower, Ltd. (according to credits). It's likely that you're seeing the same pistol being reused in many films. Fortunately, there are plenty of American action movies which use the original model with the slide safety in two-tone (i.e. my page for ''[[Under Siege 2: Dark Territory]]'').

I'm also happy to have a good Benelli M3, too! Thanks again for all of these. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Nice! ==

Awesome work on the new pictures, we needed a two tone Jericho 941. From the looks of it many of the movies on here use the early model Jerichos, the only page I've seen that had a Jericho without the safety on the slide is [[District B13]]. Anyway, Thanks for the new gun pictures, they're highly appreciated. By the way, is there a such thing as a reverse two tone Jericho 941? Just wondering.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::Excellent work, I kind of missed seeing your work. Screencaps improve the site but your images complete it :). If the '94 doesn't have a saddle ring or holes for one, it isn't a saddle ring. I'd say its a Trapper Carbine, is the barrel 16"?

==Re:==

Nice picture...I would say how about a Vertec section under the Beretta 92 page? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

if you watch 2:55:58 of a bridge to far you will see german soldiers with m1 garands , I think they must have had a shortage of k98k's in this film.

== Hey MPM ==

Someone is using your Lee-enfield No1 MkIII picture in this wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Enfield_rifle
[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:06, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taps==
I remember you asked if I had Mr. & Mrs. Smith and Taps, and guess what? I bought Taps. I have it sitting in my screencapping box and will try to do it soon. I also grabbed Appaloosa, which I've been meaning to grab for a while. I'll be screencapping that now. :)

This is irrelevant, but I got to hand a Federal M201-Z gas gun today. I went to this man's house who was a former Correctional Officer, and he owns one. He said he owned a gas gun and I asked if it was a Federal M201-Z, which shocked him since most people don't know these guns off the top of their head. Needless to say I thought it was awesome. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Thank you for Troll Removal==
Thank you for removing the troll who was among other things messing with the content of the M16 page. I've gone through and undid several other posts by this person as they contributed nothing to the pages modified. Rockwolf66

==Re:Chuck guns==

An armorer from ISS has been sending me photographs of stuff from their inventory that has appeared in movies and TV shows, including the guns from "Chuck". I'm also going to be posting photos of an M1903 Springfield from "Letters from Iwo Jima" and a nickel PPK from the "Austin Powers" movies that he sent me, too.

Also, did you check out some of the pics I posted on ''[[The Spirit]]'' page? I got great pics of Samuel L. Jackson's revolvers from that movie, and of the O/U shotguns he used, plus Eva Mendes' Beretta Jetfire. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE:WTF? ==

As much as I love the Resident Evil videogames and it's guns, I would have to say no to a Samurai Edge page. The Samurai Edge is basically a Beretta 92FS with modified parts, but is still visually the same looking gun, not too different to be worth noting on anything else beside the videogame pages, mockups such as the Aliens' Pluse Rifle are a different story. Plus, not only did he make the page, but it seems that the user copied and pasted the entire article off the Resident Evil Wiki up to the placement of the images, See here [http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Samurai_Edge], and you'll notice everything is the same. I would say delete the page, but I would get word from MT2008, and GM45 before doing anything.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

:Plagiarism is a huge no-no. So, it is now gone. I would maybe say OK to an entry on the Beretta 92 pistol series page, but certainly not if everything is copied word-for-word from another Wiki. If we see that, there's no reason not to shoot (delete) on sight. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem MPM2008, I deleted the article.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

==Re: 7.7mm Arisaka Type 02 Paratrooper Takedown rifle==
Hey MPM, Same that people have to chisel others out of what they have. I know how that goes I just try not to think about it anymore. The 7.7mm Arisaka Type 02 Paratrooper Takedown rifle was at Ellis Mercantile as that was were the guns came from for Dirty Harry except for the Model 29. I looked at it and just shook my head at what they did to sporterize them. We also had the 7.7mm Arisaka Type 02 Paratrooper Takedown rifle that was used in the Manchurian Candidate. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Tutone Taurus PT92 AFS==
Your images are always useful. I put it on the [[Shoot 'Em Up]] page, as that is the only page off the top of my head that I know has that gun in it. Excellent work as always. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks, I didn't even notice that. Again, excellent image. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Remington 700P==
MPM, as far as the PSS entry goes someone was converting all of the 700PSS entries to 700P entries. I put a bit of data on the 700 Police entry so that hopefully People will realize that not every black remington 700 is a P model. I myself own a 700P in .300 Winmag and someday I should try and get a good photo of is so that we can referance the barrel contures. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:I am changing all the 700P entrys back to PSS enties.Still as I'm not at home and I don't own a PSS I'm not going to make any judgements on if the rifles really are P models or PSS models. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

==Shotgun Blanks==
Hi MPM, I was wondering if you could help me out with something. Me and my dad are building 12 Gauge shotgun blanks with a reloading press for a movie I'm making in June with some friends, and we were wondering, is there an alternative method of packing in the power than to keep the plastic wad in? Because that plastic wad can be lethal and while we know are safety, sometimes we have to fire blanks at people. Now, he figures something like a wad of cardboard could replace it, but we don't want to try anything unsafe without some more information.

Since a box of 20 blanks is $30 bucks, we figure shotgun blanks are way cheaper to make ourselves. I hope you know a method, or else I may have to pull out the heavy kevlar vests my dad has ;). Or we are going to have to use a LOT more camera tricks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Taurus PT92 ==

Hey MPM2008, thanks for the new Taurus PT92 pictures, they're amazing, especially the two tone ones, keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, I greatly appreciate those pics, too! The one with the wood grips looks identical to the PT92 that I used to own (although I replaced the wood grips with a set of Hogues not long after I got it). And the two-tone is awesome - did you make it with ''Darkman II'' in mind? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Reply ==

You're welcome, and yeah, I remember the days when we had those crappy images. I even used to be impressed by some of them, but then when you came along, you showed we otherwise, and now I can't stand looking at airsoft images on this site. No one can shoot gun pictures better then you. And awesome work on the Mossberg 590, [[User: Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] asked for it, and there's a place for it on the [[Dead Presidents]] page, I'll be sure to put it there right now. Thanks once again, you have out did yourself once again.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem, and don't worry, I'm sure you're fine. We all get that way after alot of hard work. And by the way, is that Mossberg 590 something that should go on [[MoviePropMaster2008: IMFDB's Own Armorer|your page]]?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

:Haha, Alienqueen beat me to the punch. But I agree...of course your images are so much better than airsoft images. Remember when our SP89 image used to be a picture of an airsoft MP5K with an SP89-style hand guard? I cringe at the memory now.

:BTW, sorry I haven't been on so much recently, but between the move out of my apartment in TX and my crash-course in Arabic, I've been pretty busy. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Mossberg 590 from Dead Presidents==

Thanks for finally uploading it with the wood furniture, now the page looks cooler. I also saw you uploaded a Model 36 Flat Latch so I'll change that if it hasn't already been altered. ~[[User:yournamehere|Yournamehere]]

==Re: Inox==

Yeah, two-tone P226s are pretty common in movies. The "reverse two-tone" from ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]'' is rare (mostly because it wasn't available that way from the factory), but the normal two-tone (nickel slide, black frame, nickel controls) has been in plenty of movies. At the very least, I figured we needed one for the ''[[Face/Off]]'' and ''[[Bad Boys II]]'' pages, since the tutone P226 is very prominently featured in both of those movies.

As far as the Inox goes, whenever you can get around it, please do it. The fact that we don't have a good image of a 92FS Inox is kind of embarrassing, since the stock image used on our Beretta 92 series page has appeared on almost 75 movie/TV show pages now. The way I see it, the more a gun image appears on IMFDB, the more urgent it is that it needs to be replaced if it hasn't received the MPM2008 treatment yet.

And yes, I agree that the newer Inox Berettas are pretty ugly; the fact that the controls are now black was obviously done to lower production costs. The older ones look way better. Also, I don't think I've seen an Inox with black controls in a movie (besides ''[[Shaft]]'', which featured those cheap 8mm blank replicas that also had black controls), and as I know we agree, it's best to use guns that look identical to the ones which our visitors have seen in their favorite action films. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

==Something you should check out==

Have you seen this:

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:MostImages

This shows the most-used images on IMFDB, and of course, they're all gun images. Anyway, you can see that most of them are gun images you uploaded, but a few in the Top 25 aren't. The Browning M2 image that was uploaded by Bunni when this site was started has been on 108 pages, the Inox image has been on 74, and the M60 has been on 70.

Anyway, I mention it because I think it's a good guide for stuff to prioritize. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

==MP5K request==
I apoligize for requesting an image (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to yet or not [?]) but I've noticed that more and more movies use SEF MPK5s with the foregrips removed to make them machine pistols (including ''[[Taken]]'' which I just finished screencapping) so I figured you'd be the man to find one. Thanks, and again sorry. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== RE: Calico Weapons page ==

Great work, The page looks great. The Calico Rifles are probably the most futuristic guns I've seen, they look like something out of Star Wars. I'll be sure to keep a look out for any Calicos on movie pages, I listed Bad Boys on th page just now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

:Well, it's interesting you say that, Alienqueen, considering that the Calicos have been around for over 20 years now!

:MPM: The page looks much, MUCH better now. I suck with Calicos myself (now that they're so much harder to find), and I get lost with the different variants. Also, have you ever noticed that Calico used to call their weapons the "Liberty I" and "Liberty II"? What is with the "Liberty" nomenclature, and which guns does it apply to?

:Oh, yeah, and are you sure the ''Deep Rising'' Calicos are the M955A? Not saying you're wrong, just that I personally can't tell the barrel length with those fake rotating barrels on them. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

::OK, thanks for the explanation about the "Liberty" thing. As far as ''Deep Rising'' goes, what you are saying makes sense.

::I have one other question which you might be able to help me with...can you tell what kind of optics are used on the M1-L1s in ''[[Deep Rising]]''? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey MPM, I have a request for you. When I was at Ellis Mercantile we had a pair of custom M-100's built by LaFrance Specialties for a show. Would it be okay to change your M-100 into that configuration? Or you can set it up yourself as there is a photo of it on World Guns.ru smg .Let me know when you can. Thanks. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey MPM, Ellis supplied LaFrance with M100 rifles and he made pistols out of them. They are different then the M110 pistols as they still have the rifle looks. I can mod you photo with you permission and then upload it under LaFrance Specialties M100 Calico Pistol. If it's not up to you standard on the photo when I upload it delete it.Let me know when you can. Thanks. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Hey MPM, The LaFrance Calicos were sold when the Ellis Gun Room was sold off. I have access to the rental records for them so I can find out what show they were built for. As for a photo World Guns.ru has a photo of one from LaFrance. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey MPM, I uploaded the image of the LaFrance built M100 Calico Pistol. I know that Ellis had two of these I will check with Syd to see if they had them also. The photo is not as good as yours but it will work for now unless you modify one of you photos to match. I don't think we will ever see these in the film industry again. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Small Request ==

Hey, MPM2008, I'm not sure if you're still calling a hiatus on requests at this time, but if you're not, I would like to know if you can upload another Remington 870 Police riot shotgun like the one here [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg], but with synthetic furniture if you get the chance. Thanks, and sorry if I added to your list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== Experimental Guns ==

I say get rid of any experimental or old gun pages, since they have no chance of appearing in anything anyway, Cutaway created way too many pages like that. But we should keep the ones you created since you're a movie armorer, and like you said, they're already blank adopted, so they have a chance at appearing in a movie eventually, plus they're nice pictures. So my opinion is to get rid of the experimental guns, and keep the pages you created even if they don't appear in anything because you never when you'll be called to a set or work on a movie that will need them.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

:I've already deleted a whole bunch of Cutaway's gun pages that don't appear in movies. If you want to delete any more, I think it's fine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== Greetings! ==

Hello MPM2008, I'm a new user to this site, 500Magnum. I just would like to express how I think your pictures are the bomb! I have never seen such fine looking pictures in my lifetime. Keep up all that hard work!
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magum]]

==S&W 60==
It's okay, it seems like a pretty easy mistake to make when a gun is improperly labeled by the factory. I'm actually somewhat relieved it actually IS a model 60, because now I don't have to find the image and change it to a Model 36 Satin nickel on all the captions where the image was used on a movie page. I'm glad you cleared that up. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Ich verstehe nicht==

I figured this would be your kinda movie! It even has the hottie from ''Downfall'' toting automatic weapons (though she gets killed early on, sadly). It's a pretty good movie; one of the CT analysts I used to work with recommended it to me.

I'm going to start uploading my screencaps soon. Maybe you can help me with some of the guns I'm not sure about. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:22, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

==FN 303 pic==

Thanks for the new FN303 pic-[[User:SB2296|SB2296]]

==Use of Pictures==
Hey, MPM, a friend of mine on another forum is making a continuing thread about "Fantastic Firearms". With pictures. I was wondering if I could say he could use your pictures in his article, since they're so awesome. -protoAuthor
:Also, could you get a good picture of a sawed-off Remington 870 with an Enforcer pistol grip?

==RE:==

First of all, I'm sorry I merged the Zastava M70 page without asking you. However, I didn't '''delete''' the page for that gun; I simply copied the text onto the AK-47 page and then '''re-directed''' the page to go to the Zastava M70 entry on the AK-47 page. If you type in "Zastava M70" in the search engine, it will take you to the new page.

If you want to change it back, that's cool, but I must ask you to consider whether your objections have merit. You seem to be worried that people won't be able to find the Zastava M70; if we do '''re-directs''', then this doesn't happen. And remember that our previous discussion about where to put the M70 was before we knew how to do re-directs.

Also, if SB2296 actually '''deleted''' the PSL page without doing a re-direct, then he is '''not''' doing the same thing I do. I would never want users to be confused; but I think that with re-directs, this doesn't happen. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

:The M70 may be built on an RPK receiver, but surely you can't deny that its '''role''' is that of an automatic rifle, not an LMG or squad automatic weapon (like the RPK)? Everything else about the gun is roughly AK-based (albeit with the many modifications specific to Serb needs, like the GL sight). That's how I see it - the AK-47 page is more-or-less intended for AK-type '''rifles''', not light machine guns. And the M70 is, fundamentally, still a rifle, even if it's built on an LMG receiver. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

::You raise a good point, and I actually considered moving the Galil and Valmet pages a while ago. Which raises another point - I wound up not doing it because the Valmet M78 and Galil look very different from the AK-47 or AKM, even though the receiver design is very similar. Whereas the M70 still does look like an AK, and is usually used to impersonate Russian AK variants in movies. On the other hand, I would ''maybe'' consider moving the Valmet M78 to the RPK page, since we both know that the M78 has most often been used in Hollywood to impersonate RPKs.

::Again, I don't want to sound like I'm fighting you too much or anything, and I don't want us to get '''too''' upset about this. I only raise these points because I think it's worth asking ourselves how to be consistent in our classification scheme. These are, of course, issues that are inherent to guns that don't fit into a particular page or category so easily.

::Also, before I forget...thanks so much for the new pictures you've uploaded recently! Where did you get those Howa Type 89s? It says on Wikipedia that the Type 89 was never exported out of Japan. It's also really nice that we have a good Blaser R93 picture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

==FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle Page==
Hey MPM, I changed the FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle page back to it original format and added info explaining that the weapon is based on the stamped receiver RPK and not the Dragunov. Some think that it's a SVD but it's not it's more like a Yugo .308 AK. So all in good now. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==RE: Why do people forget Category:Movie?==

Yeah, I agree with you there. It just annoyed me because it's right in the description before they create page using the box, but like you said, it's probably better if they don't. One thing I hate the most is having a visitor find their favorite movie in the Categories, and clicking on it to find a blank or poorly made page, but hopefully that problem will be phased out with time. By the way, I got rid of and deleted those crappy movie templates that [[User: Dragon]] made, so you guys don't have to worry about seeing them anymore. Best Regards.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 07:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Picture Request ==
i am really sorry to bother you with this but i would like you to take a picture of a AK-74 and AK-74M. I am really sorry MPM2008 but i love your pictures and we need a AK-74 and AK-74M Picture.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:34, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

==Bren Ten "Peregrine Falcon". I can get you a picture.==
Hey, MPM, I've got a book with a picture of the Bren Ten, I could scan that for you if you'd like. It is old and black and white, though.-protoAuthor
:Done, put it on the "Last Action Hero" page. It also appears that tutone is standard, because that picture is from a gun digest.-protoAuthor

== PT99 ==

We can use these images to the page of the PT99? - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
[[Image:MindPt99.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:TauPt99O.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

== Re: Red Heat Link ==

No problem, I think those linked headings were there for ages before you started editing. Anyway, awesome work on the page, it looks hundreds of times better now. Is the Podbyrin picture you uploaded the actual gun from the movie? It looks great.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Podbyrin ==

Yeah, I just noticed the trigger guard after I sent the message, but no, don't remove it, despite the trigger guard, it's perfect. Plus it's nice to have another unique gun on this site, and it may be the only high resolution picture of the Podbyrin on the net. Thanks again for the new picture, and by the way, thanks alot for the Two Tone M1911A1 you uploaded a few days, it's one of my favorite images on the site.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:59, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Nice Podbyrin Pic! ==

Sweet! I like that picture. I haven't seen [[Red Heat]], but I've been dying to see the Podbyrin 9.2mm. Good work MPM2008! -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

:It looks better! But please don't butcher a 92SB (which are kind of rare nowadays) to achieve the same effect in real life! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::I can't even tell it is photoshopped. You may have noticed my comment on the Podbyrin page noting the wrong trigger guard. Maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't a Walther P38 trigger guard be better suited, since the gun is a "P38 on steroids"? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Sorry MPM2008, I cut and pasted your sig block by mistake as a quick means of leaving my signature. I sometimes have the habit of pasting and modding words to get things done quicker, anyway i have corrected the mistake on the talk page - [[User:Cutaway]] 03:21AM (UTC)

==Matrix screencap==
I noticed you replaced my screencap with this:

[[Image:Matrix-TwinMP5Kfirea.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

If it is any consolation, I had planned to reupload all of the images resized, sharpened, and brightened. Now that school will be over at the end of next week, I'll have more free time to get it done (as well as the other Matrix films). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:It's no big deal or anything (and I did think it was cool you grabbed the same frame), I just thought I'd let you know incase you had planned to replace my screencaps or something. My sisters laptop stretches images for some reason, I can fix that too but it is a tad harder... - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I didn't do it to be immature, I did it because your images make mine look like crap in comparison and I figured it stood out too much. Even with all the image editing I did I couldn't get the color contrast correct. Sorry... - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::It's alright, I understand your frustration and I've definately run into petty people on the net before. Keep an eye out for Matrix Reloaded, it's my next project. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Czech BRNO VZ24 Mauser==
Hey MPM, The Czech BRNO VZ24 Mauser Rifles built before the war were similar to the M24 Yugo or 1935 Peruvian with straight bolt handle, long handguard and different rear sight. It was during the war that the Germans changed them to K98K standard. We had them both in Ellis Mercantile pre-war VZ24 and wartime production. I think that if it is a VZ24 wartime production it should be in the K98k page as they were K98k but the pre war rifles should be on the Mauser Rifle page. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Small Request==
MPM, I know you're not taking requests right now, but I have a small one compared to my last request (The Proffessionals Ithaca 37; I'm sorry about adding it to your to-do list). Could you possibly create a Cobray M11/9 with a MAC-11 style stock (the parts are interchangable, right)? We could use it for our ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' and ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' pages. Thanks and have a great summer. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

==CZ75 WITHOUT Ring Hammer==
Hey, MPM, protoAuthor here. Do you have an early-edition CZ75? One without the ring hammer, but with the...damn, forget the term, but the 1911-looking hammer. Just wondering if you could get a picture of one up here, for articles like Gunsmith Cats. No biggie if you don't, I can probably find a good picture on JC Devine some day-protoAuthor

==Seven Days==

Yes, I am an absent-minded moron. I admit it. I even checked the page history and then forgot who I was planning to address. :)

Anyway, watching the AVIs of ''[[Seven Days]]'' has made me realize what a ridiculous number of franken-M16s there are in the biz. This show has some of the same XM177 mock-ups seen in ''[[The Rock]]'' and other movies/TV shows - the ones that have M16A2 receivers but chopped barrels with the fake XM177-style compensators. I've seen some episodes that also feature M16 SP1s with A2 hand guards and A1 flash hiders (just like in ''[[The X-Files]]''). Any chance you'd be willing to do some more franken-M16 pictures, or let me Photoshop a few? (of course, I won't do it without your permission)

Here's a couple from Season 1 episodes:

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Thanks again. Hope work hasn't been too bad for you. I just watched a TV show where an actor threw down his M16A1 (a real one, not one of the rubber stunt versions) and thought of what you told us in that forum topic. Haha. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Honoring Actors who have passed away ==

Read your suggestion about the addon for the pages of deceased actors/ actresses, and I think it'd be a good idea. I also have a couple other additions for that list, namely [[Alexander Godunov]] and [[Heath Ledger]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think it's a great idea. I could find some good screenshots of Carradine from the Kill Bill movies if you want, so we don't grab a google image or something. (edit: I checked the page, your image is just fine). It's a shame about Carradine, not the most honorable way to go :( - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Hey MPM, I think it's a GREAT idea to honor the actors that have passed away. I think that it would raise the level of IMFDB another notch considering that people from the industry are now checking out this site more often. What ever you do on this I will use on a lot of my pages since it's mostly B&W and those actors are gone for the most part. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
Glad you liked the Heston photo with his DOB and DOD. That was my contribution. I think you're onto something.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
== Re: Godunov? ==

According to his Wikipedia article, he passed away in May 1995 due to a combination of alcohol abuse and Hepatitis complications. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==

That's a very good idea, I say go for it. I would be great to honor some of the greatest actors seen in movies. [[Roy Scheider]] is a good one too, I was going to put something on the Jaws page for him, but I wasn't sure how it would work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Over reacting ==

Ok, I might agree the Team America one deleting might have been over doing it. I was just pissed off that no one cares about South Park, The Simpsons, and American Dad, not to mention Family Guy. I see HUGE discussions on what kind of weapons they are using when clearly most of them were fictional guns drew up because the guy drawing doesnt know a thing about guns or wasnt told to be more detail with them, the rest of the shows look like doodles, why make the guns look like guns. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== VG guns ==

Well some games can be forgiven to be a little bit lack of detail, but quite a few games do go out, record the sound of the real gun shots and use those in the final production, the bigger problem most gamers has with VG guns is more on their accuracy and power compared to the real thing. VG developers sometimes significantly just make guns that would be powerful and accurate as hell weak as fuck for the sake of game balance. And going with Modern Warfare 2, some of the guns are just stupid for what real world special forces would use. I mean the Bushmaster ACR? I can see how it has military uses, but I don't even think it was even considered for military use. Russian Ultranationalist using AUGs and FAMAS? Spas 12s? Oh yeah and the one big thing a Kriss Super V. That thing last I heard wasn't even in full production yet and they somehow have Russian terrorists get ahold of one? At least with COD4, they were semi consistent with what primary guns people use, the SAS and Marines using M4 weapons, the enemy using AKs, but the random USPs, Berettas and the one mission where you as the SAS trooper holding and M24 sniper rifle was just piss poor. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== RE: VG guns ==
I agree with you MPM, but only because most of those experimental and rare guns are pieces of shit. For exemple, look at how many games have the XM8! The XM8 sucks ass and video game developers love them. The same thing happens with the XM29. It's a piece of shit and video game developers love them because it looks futuristic and cool. It also happens wtih the SPAS-12. It's really fucking weird to see a discontinued, really expensive shotgun being used by police or Military soldiers in video games.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

:Speaking as someone who first got into modern military/LE weaponry by doing weapons skins for ''[[Half-Life]]'' mods in my teens, I can say that most game dev teams really have no common sense when it comes to weapons. The SPAS-12 is actually a very good example. I remember on my first mod (which never got finished), there was a lot of disagreement amongst the members of my team over what type of shotgun we were going to have. Most members wanted the SPAS-12 because they all thought it looked cooler, while I wanted a pistol-grip Mossberg with heat shield (I had just been to a gun show where I had the chance to hold one, and being 17, I thought it was the coolest gun ever). Ultimately, the SPAS-12 won out when we voted on our forum. Of course, this was an unprofessional mod being designed by high school and college students, but most of the professional teams in the business aren't that much different - the designers are all geeks who have zero real-life experience with firearms. Whenever they choose which guns are going to appear in the game, the team members almost always pick what they've seen in other video games or their favorite movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== RE: SPAS 12 ==
Yes, the SPAS-12 apears in movies all the time, however, i was talking about how it's weird to see SPAS-12s being used by Militarys and terrorist/criminals because they are discountinued(I probably spelled that wrong) and expensive. The SPAS-12 does needs a place in IMFDB. So does the XM8 even though the only XM8s that appear in movies and television are Mock-ups like the ones in XXX 2.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Understood==

Yeah, I should've responded on Oliveira's page. I got carried away again... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== thank you for editing ==

Thank you for your editing of things specifically the star trek page which looks great now. You're Awsome!!!!!!

==Re: Our own movie==

OK, so the idea of IMFDB doing its own action movie (with an actual budget, storyline, and production staff) is a total fantasy, but here's something a little more grounded in reality: What would you think of a short home-made video where we show off some blank-adapted firearms, provide narration describing how they work, maybe even do a brief firing demo where we fire a few rounds through a pistol at someone's range? IMFDB already has a YouTube account (under Bunni's name) - we would just post it there. Nothing too fancy - just a video that would explain to people that, contrary to popular belief, the guns they see in movies are real. I'm still amazed at how many people seem to think they're "fake" (just talked to another gun owner on another message board who initially didn't believe me).

Also, that reminds me...what are rental fees at the armories nowadays? Does it cost significantly more to rent adapt a blank-adapted pistol as it costs me to rent an unmodified pistol from my local range? Of course, I'm guessing blanks themselves are the bigger expense (since the armories all do their own loads). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:Oh, yeah, and by this, I mean that the blank-adapted firearms in the video would be rented/borrowed from one of the major rental armories. If that's even possible... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:00, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

::I don't see why the action movie is a fantasy. I could get someone to write us a script, and if we all pooled our resources... We have people who can be actors on this site (myself included), I'm sure. We just need money. How many members do we have?-protoAuthor

:::ProtoAuthor, I have been on some film sets (mostly when I was younger and several major shows were filmed in my home town), and I know enough about the industry to know that that's not a realistic goal.

:::MPM, wow, I had no idea blank costs had risen THAT high, even though my sources have always told me they are more expensive than live rounds. And sorry to hear about the SAG losses, though I remember hearing about it earlier (you're actually one of a couple people I know working in showbiz who have told me the same story about how it affects them).

:::That being said, the best I can say is that I'd rent one of the guns that hasn't "paid for itself" in rentals yet (i.e. one of your Springfield XDs or FNPs), so it would be a step forward to a return on the investment. But I do understand the issue with blanks, that and the fact that I appreciate how hard it is given your schedule. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

:::''rule of thumb is usually 10% of full replacement costs for one week.''

:::So, in other words, an $800 pistol would rent for $80 a week? Does it adjust as a gun loses Blue Book value? (i.e. do Gen 2 Glocks rent for lower prices than Gen 3 Glocks)? Also, I'm guessing daily rentals or student rates aren't SOP? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== SAG Strike ==
Ok, i know some things about the SAG strike but i didn't knew it was that bad! Can you tell me how the SAG strike affected movie armourers?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:18, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== new user issue ==

My guess would be an issue with his browser. To troubleshoot I'd suggest first creating a new account using the same computer, if the problem persists I would change to a different browser (ie. Firefox) and if it still persists try a different computer. I bet simply changing browsers will take care of it though. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Much as I hate to be down on a page obvious work has gone into... ==

[[Einhander]]

It's a scrolling shooter where the player controls a spaceship. I can see how two of the pictured weapons could be based on real-life weaponry, but you could say the same of Halo [sniper rifle as NTW-20, assault rifle as FN F2000] and I don't think that's around anymore. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

==Holland & Holland Page==
Thanks for the compliment. Boy I wish one of those H&H rifles pictured were mine. But I'm just a mere mortal who has only held an H&H Double (owned by a wealthy local businessman). And I count myself lucky for that experience. The photos are from the Nitro Express Forums site. http://nitroexpress.com/
But thanks again. I figured it was time that we had a page for those great (and expensive) doubles. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks, and Little help please ==

First thanks for your revamp of the Calico weapons, great photos. Second I was wondering if you could help ID this gun from the Australian show [[Sea Patrol]]:

[[Image:Sea Patrol Revolver 2.png]]

Nothing I find seems right, it looks like a Smith and Wesson but the pattern on the handle seems off. Revolvers aren't my strong suit.

Thanks, and keep up the great photographing.
[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]] 22:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

==Memorial Photos==
I'm flexible. If that is what folks want done or want to do I won't throw a hissy fit if they replace the photos I added. I've heard from different contributors regarding the memorial photos. Some people like what I've been doing - gives it a Hollywood feeling. But you an a couple others have suggested using screencaps with the actors in their iconic roles. That's the nice thing about imfdb. we can all contribute. For me it's just fun. Good hearing from you. Glad to know that folks are not against the memorial photo idea. Just have different opinions on how to format them. Or is it present? Well you know what I mean. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

==Test Template Page==
Hey MPM, Nice test page showing the difference between old and new. Adding a new column is easy just have to figure out what to name the column and how wide to max it out. I am working on the AK and M1911 right now to test but I can see right now to add a note section. Let me know what you think. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
: Hey MPM, Added the notes column check it out. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==The Daewoo K3==

Hey, MPM, I just made a page for the [[Daewoo K3]]. I just figured out last night (with Steve's help) that some "M249s" in movies are visually-modified K3s (like the one used by [[Kevin Costner]] in ''[[3000 Miles to Graceland]]''). Can you tell me more about the obstacles to buying M249s which led armorers to use the K3? I figured I should get input from both of you on this so that the summary is accurate as possible. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

:Steve says they were apparently cheaper at one time. One thing I've noticed is that the K3s seem to appear mostly in action movies filmed in Canada. If you happen to run into one of the K3s made to look M249-ish, please do tell. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== I hate puppets ==

It's not that I hate puppets. It's that I hate taking it seriously. I mean come on. We're talking about what kind of guns they armed little string puppets. Where did they come to the conclusion that I hate puppets? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, well I got tired of looking at the cartoons, screen caps or not. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

==Rock Island Armory Commander==
Hey MPM, You would not happen to have a photo of a Rock Island Armory Commander. Ben Stiller uses one in [[Starsky & Hutch (2004)]]. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey MPM, Good to see that you are busy working I know several that are just looking for some work. The RIA Commander in the photo has Colt Series 70 checkered grips on it. No hurry on the photo as I will put a filler in it place for now. Thanks. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Template ==

Hey MPM2008, I just want to say amazing work on the new template. That is a good example of how a template should look, I can actually see that successfully showing up on more page in the future. It looks millions of times better then the crappy ones Dragon made months ago. Good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks but PhoenixEnt designed the original template. I am just playing around with it to try to see what format seems best, and boy is it hard. I sure hope we all agree on something :) MPM2008

I Concur, this will help keep the information neat and organized. This will especially be good to have on certain pages. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

The only issue I can potentially see is if no character is seen using something; for example, a remote weapon who's controller isn't identified, a weapon found on the ground but not picked up, or whatever. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

:Hey MPM, Thanks for the compliment on the template layout. You really brought it out to the for front. I just brought to IMFDB some items we used on another wiki. I do believe that all the Admins will come to the same page on how the final layout will look. It will look great when we all get on board the same train. Thanks Again. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::I think we should use more, although it'll take alot of work getting used to. I agree to anything that will help the site look neater, plus I would like to see that template on more pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

*slaps forehead* OK, I admit it, I really am going senile at 23. Either that or the fact that I had my Arabic final yesterday and have been sleep-deprived for the better part of the week. Sorry, but don't take it personally. Oh, and nice job. ;) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

I prefer Chronological order as well, since it neatly documents each year the guns appeared each year without needing a character to use it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

:I figured there was already a consensus that we do things by chronological order? I definitely agree with the idea, 100%. Also, in situations where we have multiple movies featuring the same gun in one year, then we go to alphabetical order within those years only. For example, if we have listed ten films, all released in 1996, that feature the Beretta 92F, those ten films should be alphabetical order. There might even be a way to change the columns so that we won't have to write "1996" for all ten films, though I have no idea how right now. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Zombieland Mare's Leg pistol==
I understand my comment on the Mare's Leg gun disrupted the flow of the page, so I figured I'd tell you a little bit about it. I'd assume it is a C.B. Custom model. They've been selling the "Mare's Leg" in typical pistol calibers (.38spl, .45LC, .357Mag) and consider it a pistol so civilians can buy it without paying a tax for a cut down rifle. Since the gun looks so new and shiny, this could be assumed. Also, they sell the gun with a non-loop lever. LSI (Legacy Sports International) has also been reproducing Mare's Leg guns since 2008, so perhaps this film bought one brand new from the company to show it off (but since the movie was filmed at this time it would be BRAND new). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== The Hills Have Eyes ==

Sorry about that, I couldn't figure out why it was doing that, so I just deleted the redirect page, if you can make a better redirect, go ahead. I'm not too good at doing redirects myself.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 17:06, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem, I was going to try getting rid of the Category: Movie tab at first, but everytime I hit the Edit tab, it would bring me to the page it redirected to, so I just decided to get rid of it, thanks for creating a better redirect by the way. --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Alien resurrection ==

I added a note to [[Alien: Resurrection]] about a page I found on the props, you might want to take a look and see if it's legit since it implies most or all the sci-fi firearms are just props made from machined aluminium. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 01:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Hey MPM ==
Anyone ever tell you that you have a lot of pictures? haha. - [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:BTW the HKP7M13 picture, the factory nick and the blued, are they the same gun? I'm just wondering, same serial no., and if they are, how'd you accomplish that?-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Ahahah I completely agree, I posted a picture of my Gold Cup on the forum, but I put duck tape over the SN. So are they the same gun? I saw that they had nicks in the same place as well. And thanks, I just pay attention

==Desert Eagle==

Agreed, moved back. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

==Navy SEALs==
Hey MPM, would it be okay if I uploaded a few screencaps for [[Navy SEALs]]? When I say a few, I mean a FEW. I just wanted to add some guns you missed.

* Terrorists fire a DShK (or M2 mock up) at a helicopter during the film's start

* FN FAL seen in soldier's hands in news footage.

* Sheen uses a Browning Hi-Power to shoot a terrorist when he finds the conversation "boring".

* Stinger missile launcher, which is kind of pivotal to the whole story.

* One of the SEALs is seen holding a 92FS in one scene (during the night raid), it had a squared trigger guard.

I promise I won't fill up the page with huge amounts of screencaps, in fact I think each gun should only hail one or two caps each, total. I don't think I'll need to add any extra caps to the existing guns either, unless I come across something really, REALLY good. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::After screencapping it, I noticed all types of AK variants are seen, not just AK-47s and AKMS's. The Hi-Power was a CZ-75. The new footage had an FN FAL, and M16A1 with jungle taped magazines, and a DShK. The gun at the beggining is the same type of mocked up M2HB from Rambo III, except it is a dual mount. And a terrorist APC is seen fitted with dual M1919 .30 calibers. There are some other guns too but that was just some of the stuff I caught. I took a few more extra screencaps for the existing guns than I thought I would, so I'll put those in the discussion and let you okay them. Sound good? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Shit. Damn my impatience! Well I only added some extras to the existing guns on the page and filled out the AKs in better detail. I'll leave everything else to you, and hey, if you miss anything once your done I still have all my screencaps saved and ready to use. Sorry to tread on your toes. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::BTW, I fixed up the page format a bit (it wasn't quite IMFDB standard). I was wondering, what is this gun Ramos is holding?:
[[Image:NS-FNFNCPara-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ramos with (???). My best guess is an FN FNC Para or someting around that series of firearms.]]
::::I figured you'd know best. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Can you delete a duplicate picture? ==

After updating [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DefTech1315.jpg DefTech1315.jpg] I noticed the [[RoboCop 3]] page used a duplicate image of the original (found [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DefTec37mmGasGun.jpg here]). They were both the same image before and now the [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DefTech1315.jpg DefTech1315.jpg] is just a larger/cleaner version, and the one [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DefTec37mmGasGun.jpg here] isn't used. [[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]] 16:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:::DONE :)

==I've got a really special treat...==

Not too long ago, I e-mailed my contact at Independent Studio Services (ISS) to ask for some more information on the weapons used in ''[[Public Enemies]]''. Today, he e-mailed me back, not just with additional info, but pictures of several of the screen-used guns. IMFDB is now the only site on the 'Net with these pictures. Check them out:

[[Image:PE-1911MP-screenused.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The actual screen-used Colt .38 Super (converted to 9mm) machine pistol from ''Public Enemies''.]]
[[Image:PE-RemM11-screenused.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The actual screen-used Remington Model 11 (with sawed-off barrel and stock and sling added) from ''Public Enemies''.]]
[[Image:PE-Rem1907-screenused.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The actual screen-used Winchester Model 1907 from ''Public Enemies''.]]
[[Image:PE-1901-screenused.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The actual screen-used Winchester Model 1901 from ''Public Enemies''. This weapon was handled and fired by actor Stephen Lang. ]]

Hope you guys enjoy these. Also, my contact promised he would e-mail more pictures of the pistols/revolvers, Thompsons, Remington Model 8s, and the Mauser used by Christian Bale in the film. In no time at all, we'll be one of the only places on the 'Net to have pictures of just about all of the guns used in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow. Those are some great photos. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE:Sorry guys==
Good luck with the productions. I started to film my own movie last tuesday and a little today, so I guess summer's movie making time. Hope you get back soon. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Great to hear from you again! I was wondering what happened (I only '''just''' noticed the update on your user page, haha). Hope all goes well and you (and the guns) all come out of it OK. I'm sure you'll have stories to tell, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Armorer page idea ==

Hey, I haven't checked the forums in awhile so I don't know if anyone's had this idea before, but I was wondering if we should set up a way of making pages for movie armorers or at least one page with the armorers and links to the movies they've done. I'm not sure how it would be set up, but I just wanted to consult with anyone else to see if this would be a good idea. I figured these guys do a ton of work and it'd be great to see who all's worked on what, etc. Again, if anyone's had this idea before just ignore this but I was just thinking it might be neat to honor these guys. Let me know what you think! Also I hope you're having a good time with the productions you're working on now! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Your Photos ==

You know, I was just looking at those photos you took on your user page, and I must say that these are very well done. Bravo! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Public Enemies

2009-07-12T23:00:36Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Remington Model 11 */

'''The following firearms were used in the film ''Public Enemies'':'''

(All screencaps are from the HD version of the trailer released March 2009)
[[Image:Publen-poster.jpg|thumb|right|350px|''Public Enemies'' (2009).]]__TOC__ 

== Colt 1903 Hammerless Pocket ==
John Dillinger ([[Johnny Depp]]) keeps a [[Colt Model 1903/1908|Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless]] as a secondary sidearm, most notably as a "pocket pistol" when in hiding in Chicago after the Little Bohemia shootout.
[[Image:Colt_Model_1903.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless Pistol Blued - .32 ACP]]

== Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer ==
A [[Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammer|Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer]] was shipped for use in the film, but was either not used or the scene was deleted as it is never seen.
[[Image:Colt1903pockethammer.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer - .38 ACP.]]

== Colt Detective Special ==
Several FBI agents are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s, usually seen in their hip holsters. Melvin Purvis ([[Christian Bale]]) is notabley seen with one holstered in several scenes.
[[Image:PublicEnemies2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Pre-War Colt Detective Special used in Public Enemies.]]

==Colt M1911A1==
John Dillinger ([[Johnny Depp]]) carries two [[M1911A1|Colt M1911A1]] pistols kept in a cross-draw shoulder holster rig through out the film, although he rarely fires them. Melvin Purvis ([[Christian Bale]]) also uses one as his sidearm during the Little Bohemia shootout. "Baby Face" Nelson ([[Stephen Graham]]) also carries one as his sidearm, and notably uses it to shoot an FBI agent in the back in his apartment building. Charles Winstead ([[Stephen Lang]]) fires one during the Biograph Theater scene. While Dillinger was said to prefer .38 Super pistols in real life, there are currently ''no'' .38 Super weapons or blanks in the armorer industry, and all of the M1911A1s in the film were chambered in .45 ACP. Several other characters carry them and they are notably used by the prison escapees, including Walter Dietrich ([[James Russo]]) during the opening scene.
[[Image:PublicEnemies1.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Pre-War Colt M1911A1 used in Public Enemies - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:Publen-1911a.png|thumb|none|500px|Dillinger pulls out two M1911A1s as he robs a bank.]]

==Colt Thompson Hybrids==
John Dillinger ([[Johnny Depp]]) and some of his gangsters, notably "Baby Face" Nelson ([[Stephen Graham]]), and FBI agent Melvin Purvis ([[Christian Bale]]) use [[Thompson Submachine Gun]]s guns throughout the film. One of Dillinger's Thompsons has the stock removed and is attached to a lanyard. John "Red" Hamilton ([[Jason Clarke]]) and several other of Dillinger's bank robbers use Thompsons, Hamilton wielding two when Dillinger enters the Chicago mob's betting parlor after breaking out of the Crown Point jail. "Pretty Boy" Floyd ([[Channing Tatum]]) is carrying one as he is being pursued by Purvis. The guns used in the film were a mix of Colt M1921's (Some the same used in ''[[Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull]]'') with 1928 internals, M1928A1's refinished to look like M1921's (by adding a polished blued finish) and there were some Thompson hybrids that were built out of various models. (thanks goes to [[User:Phoenixent|Steve Karnes]] for the information on the guns)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Colt M1921AC Thompson with 50-round drum - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:Colt1921AC.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M1921AC Thompson with 20-round magazine - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:Publen-tommy1.png|thumb|none|500px|Dillinger fires his Thompson during the Michigan City jailbreak.]]
[[Image:Publen-tommy2.png|thumb|none|500px|Dillinger fires his Thompson while riding on a getaway car.]]
[[Image:Publen-tommy3.png|thumb|none|500px|Dillinger fires his Thompson as Homer Van Meter fires a B.A.R.]]
[[Image:Publen-tommy4.png|thumb|none|500px|Dillinger leaves the bank carrying a Thompson on his hostage.]]
[[Image:Publen-tommy5.png|thumb|none|500px|Purvis fires his Thompson at night.]]
[[Image:YoutubePEM1921Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Purvis fires his Thompson during the start of the Little Bohemia shootout.]]
[[Image:YoutubePEM1921Thompson-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Dillinger fires his Thompson during the Little Bohemia shootout.]]
[[Image:Publen-tommy6.png|thumb|none|500px|Nelson fires his Thompson during the Little Bohemia shootout.]]

== Browning Automatic Rifle ==
One of Dillinger's bank robbers Homer Van Meter ([[Stephen Dorff]]) uses a [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] during several of the gang's robberies. One of Purvis' ([[Christian Bale]]) men is also seen firing a BAR during the Little Bohemia shootout. Van Meter's BAR has a notabley shorter barrel than the standard models released, although it was actually Bonnie & Clyde who favored the sawed down BARs, and not Dillinger's gang. The weapons were modified in the "Bonnie & Clyde" configuration and supplied by Gibbons Ltd. for the film.
[[Image:BARearlymodel.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle .30-06]]
[[Image:Publen-bar1.png|thumb|none|500px|Van Meter fires his BAR over the shoulder of a police officer held hostage. Note the sawed down barrel.]]
[[Image:YoutubePEBAR-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of Purvis' men fires his BAR.]]
[[Image:YoutubePEBAR-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Mauser Gewehr 1898 Sporter==
Melvin Purvis fires a sporterized [[Mauser Gewehr 1898|Mauser Gewehr 1898]] when searching for "Pretty Boy" Floyd ([[Channing Tatum]]) in Ohio. He ultimately uses it to fatally wound Floyd after taking a well aimed shot at him as he flees, making use of the double set triggers to lighten the trigger pull and make his shot more accurate.
[[Image:Publen-bolt1.png|thumb|none|500px|Purvis fires at the retreating Floyd.]]
[[Image:YoutubePEMauser98sporter.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A better side shot of the Mauser Sporter as Purvis operates the bolt. Note double set triggers and flat bolt handle.]]

== Remington Model 8 ==
Dillinger grabs a [[Remington Model 8]] autoloading rifle during his breakout from Crown Point jail. These rifles are also seen in the hands of of FBI "G-Men" at the airport.
[[Image:Remington model 8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington Model 8 Semiautomatic Rifle - chambered in .25, .30, .32 and .35 Remington]]
[[Image:Publen-bolt2.png|thumb|none|500px|Dillinger with the Remington Model 8.]]

==Winchester Model 1901==

FBI agent Charles Winstead ([[Stephen Lang]]) fires a sawed-off [[Winchester Model 1887|Winchester Model 1901]] chambered in 10-Gauge during the Little Bohemia shootout. This weapon was converted to blank-fire and supplied by Independent Studio Services, like many of the weapons used in the film.

[[Image:PE-1901-screenused.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The actual screen-used Winchester Model 1901 from ''Public Enemies''. This weapon was actually handled and fired by actor Stephen Lang. (This picture was sent to IMFDB by an armorer from Independent Studio Services, the company which supplied some of the weapons for ''Public Enemies''.)]]
[[Image:YoutubePEWin1887.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winstead aims his sawed off Winchester 1901 shotgun.]]
[[Image:YoutubePEWin1887-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winstead fires his Winchester 1901.]]
[[Image:Snapshot20090313015311.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winstead rolls with his Winchester 1901.]]

==Winchester Model 1907==
One of Dillinger's men is seen firing a [[Winchester Model 1907]] fitted with a 10-round magazine and a Thompson foregrip during the Little Bohemia shootout. This is historically accurate since this weapon was found among the weaponry in Dillinger's crew and is seen in the famous picture. Melvin Purvis ([[Christian Bale]]) also comments to his fellow FBI agents how they will be issued "Winchester .351 semi-automatic rifles", which are Model 1907s. Some FBI agents are seen carrying unmodified versions in the film.

The Winchester Model 1907 used in the film was modified and blank-converted by Independent Studio Services, one of the largest rental armories in Hollywood. The weapon was built to the same specifications as the rifle used by the real-life Dillinger's gang, with an aluminum foreend and a Thompson SMG grip.

[[Image:PE-Rem1907-screenused.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The actual screen-used Winchester Model 1907 from ''Public Enemies''. (This picture was sent to IMFDB by an armorer from Independent Studio Services, the company which supplied some of the weapons for ''Public Enemies''.)]]
[[Image:DillingerCrewWin1907.jpg|thumb|none|400px|For comparison purposes - the Winchester Model 1907 fitted with 10-round magazine and front mounting bracket to fit a Thompson foregrip, as used by a member of the real-life John Dillinger's gang.]]
[[Image:YoutubePEWin1907.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of Dillinger's men fires a Winchester Model 1907 during the Little Bohemia shootout.]]

==Winchester Model 1897==
FBI agents and police in the film are seen carrying [[Winchester Model 1897]] shotguns. When Billie Frachette ([[Marion Cotillard]]) is apprehended by the FBI, one of the agents is seen carrying "Trench" model with a heat shield and a bayonet lug.
[[Image:WinchesterM1897.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 "Riot" - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:1897.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 "Trench" - 12 Gauge.]]

==Remington Model 11==

Some FBI agents and one of Dillinger's gang members carry [[Browning Auto-5|Remington Model 11]] shotguns, most of which have sawed down stock and barrels. The weapon used in the film was indeed a genuine Remington Model 11 and not a Browning A5 as stated previously. The weapon used in the film was supplied by Independent Studio Services and converted to blank fire (a rather difficult process). Note-The Remington shotgun in this configuration was frequently called the Whippet gun by gangsters of the era, because of how you could "Whip-it" out from under your coat or shoulder to fire.

[[Image:PE-RemM11-screenused.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The actual screen-used Remington Model 11 (with sawed-off barrel and stock and sling added) from ''Public Enemies''. (This picture was sent to IMFDB by an armorer from Independent Studio Services, the company which supplied some of the weapons for ''Public Enemies''.)]]
[[Image:DillingercrewRem11s.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Remington Model 11s recovered from the real-life John Dillinger's gang, for comparison purposes to the movie guns. Note how one has been sawed down.]]

==Dillinger's M1911A1 .38 Super "Machine Pistol"==

John Dillinger ([[Johnny Depp]]) carried a rather unique firearm at one point, an [[M1911A1]] chambered in .38 Super (which would pierce the police officer's body armor when the .45 ACP round wouldn't) which was specially modified to fire full auto, loaded with an extended magazine, was fitted with a Thompson's foregrip and a Thompson's Cutts compensator to turn it into a miniaturized "machine pistol". In the film Dillinger is sadly never seen using it, and it is only wielded in the hands of "Baby Face" Nelson ([[Stephen Graham]]), who uses it during the Little Bohemia shootout to fire out the windows and later to gun down an FBI agent before stealing his vehicle.

In the movie, the prop pistol used by Stephen Graham was built and supplied by Independent Studio Services, one of the largest rental armories in Hollywood. The gun started out as a Colt 38 Super, but it was re-chambered to fire 9mm blanks, since .38 Super blanks are practically non-existent and almost never used by film armorers. As with the real-life equivalent used by Dillinger's gang, the weapon was converted to fire automatic and given a Thompson foregrip and Cutts compensator. The 20-round magazine used in the pistol was built by welding together a pair of standard 9mm magazines. (''This information was provided to IMFDB by an armorer from ISS, who also sent along the picture of the screen-used weapon seen below.'')

[[Image:PE-1911MP-screenused.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The actual screen-used Colt .38 Super (converted to 9mm) machine pistol from ''Public Enemies''. (This picture was sent to IMFDB by an armorer from Independent Studio Services, the company which supplied some of the weapons for ''Public Enemies''.)]]
[[Image:.38Super1911MachinePistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The real-life Dillinger's .38 Super M1911A1 Machine Pistol, for comparison purposes.]]
[[Image:YoutubePE.38MachinePistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Baby Face" Nelson fires off Dillinger's machine pistol during the Little Bohemia shootout before switching to a Thompson.]]

==Colt Model 1922 Machine Gun==
Army soldiers guarding the streets after Dillinger's prison break are seen maning a [[Colt Model 1922 Machine Gun]].
[[Image:M1917A1 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1917 - .30-06. Similar to Colt Model 1922.]]

==Remington M1903A3==
[[M1903 Springfield#1903A3 Springfield Rifle|Remington M1903A3]] rifles are carried by the soldiers guarding the streets after Dillinger's prison break. They are also used by the prison guards at the Michigan City prison. They are noted by their rear apperature "Bunny-Ear" sights.
[[Image:Springfield03A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington M1903A3 - .30-06.]]

==Winchester Model 1892==
[[Winchester Model 1892]] rifles are used by prison guards at the Michigan City prison. One is also used by a vigilante to graze Dillinger in the shoulder during the Sioux Falls bank robbery botched by "Baby Face" Nelson.
[[Image:Winchester1892Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1892 - .38-40 WCF.]]

==Link of Interest==
Link to the Auto-Ordnance site which has a photo of Dillinger Gang weapons confiscated by the FBI:

http://www.auto-ordnance.com/AO-3F3.html

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'''Note: Please sign your name when adding to this discussion page so I don't have to sift through the page history to know who I'm talking to. I suggest adding a hyphen ( - ) and then typing in three ~ symbols to show your username (four if you wish to display the time as well). Also, I'm a tad OCD about this, but if you add a new post, put it at the ''bottom'' of the discussion page, so I have some form of chronological order here. Thanks.''' - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Future Weapons==
Hey GM, why don't we try to do Future Weapons together?
==Helicopter in The Marine==
Hey GM,
That helicopter image you posted in "The Marine" under the acetaline M61 Vulcan was origionally from the scene in Rambo III where Traughman gets captured. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glocks==
Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==Wanted==
Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to [[Quantum of Solace]] go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.
==Quantum of Solace==
Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.

==Dirty Harry==

Just so you know, [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

==1911==

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.

:Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do ''so'' much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?

::It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.

::Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in ''[[Training Day]]'' and ''[[The Departed]]'' don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

==New stuff==

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the [[AK-47]] page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

:I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.

::Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?

:My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.

::OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".

: "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

== Your articles ==

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the ''[[Heat]]'' page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for ''[[Hollow Point]]'' or ''[[Last Action Hero]]'', but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.

:As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

== Current stuff ==

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your ''[[Hollow Point]]'' page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in ''[[The Fugitive]]''.

As far as the grenade launcher in ''[[Hollow Point]]'', it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.

::You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the [[Hollow Point]] page.

I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

==Heat==

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

::It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to ''you''.

::Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.

::From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.

:::So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.

::::All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.

::::Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on ''[[The Rock]]'' page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

==Defense Technologies==

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

[[Image:Federallabs37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (''[[RoboCop 3]]'' is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

== Great Work! ==

Thanks for uploading the poster for the [[Catch a Fire]] page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Response ==

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then [[Bad Boys II]], and it's MoviePropMaster2008's [[District B13]] with 37 guns. [[User: Alienqueen11]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the [[Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem]] page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on [[Toy Soldiers]]. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== About Language ==

Hey, I want to say good work on [[Heartbreak Ridge]], there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, [[User: Bunni|Bunni]], the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

:OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from ''Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels''), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

== MGS4 M1911A1 ==

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgnpNaJ6M0]

There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== .50 Caliber 1911? ==

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

[[Image:M1.50GI.jpg]]

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

== Nice work on Platoon ==

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)==
..''"how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?" ''
: I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

..''"I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."''
:Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

..''"Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."''
: I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

..''"Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."''
: The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.

::''Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better.'' -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Last Action Hero==
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

== Nice job ==

Hey, nice job on the [[Jurassic Park]] page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put [[A Beautiful Mind]] on your Pages Built list. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Re: Nice Job ==

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. [[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==M1911 shots by MPM2008==
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Uzi ==

About the [[Uzi]] page, you might want to leave a note on [[User: Bunni|Bunni's]] talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== Training Day Revolver ==

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes.
Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
[[Image:SW19SN.jpg]]

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.

==Call of Duty 4 Pictures==

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

:Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?'

hey i'm new here and i don't know how to get to my user page and didn't someone think the mini uzi was a ruger mp9? please help me get on a user page!!! [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Srry, when i signed my name i just followed the red link. i didn't think that would happen. by the way, how come i made madness combat pages and they were deleted? they told me no flash, but i don't get what they have against flash.

Can i put flash pics on my user page at least? drjuki

== Re: Saving Private Ryan ==

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).

:Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.

::I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.

:::The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

==Good call on the xXx==
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329774/]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

==Dibbs==
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

== About the screencaps on COD4. ==

How did get them? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re:XXX==

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on ''[[Kelly's Heroes‎]]''. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on ''[[Where Eagles Dare]]''.

==On Kelly's Heroes==
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

==M1911s==
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Are you sure? ==

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

::What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

==Reign of Fire==
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008

==577 pic==
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

== The Punisher ==

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on [[Hard Boiled]] because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The [[Sin City]] talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== ''Tears of the Sun'' ==

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Re:Tybalts Gun==

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

==Ak recog==
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Jarhead'' M60E3 ==

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the [[M60 machine gun]], it has always had two [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240 machine gun]]s; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The [[Browning M2]] heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==animated gifs==
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.

[[Image:HEAT M4 shorty Shootout.gif]]
MPM2008

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Reign of Fire==
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008

==...==

Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008

::Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.

::BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008

== Jaws ==

Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping [[Jaws]]? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Top Pages ==

Very cool idea - nice work. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping [[Four Brothers]], and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]], so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Jaws]] is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==thanks==

Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:

[[Image:MyP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.

Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.

:As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...

:BTW, very nice job on the ''[[Last Man Standing]]'' page! Though I would recommend maybe being a ''little'' less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==crap==
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==Empty Pages I Created==
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. [[User:CyclopsScott|CyclopsScott]] 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==Western guns==
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==Hotel Rwanda==
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== The World Is Not Enough (video game) ==

Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough

I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.

edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.

==FYI==
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Walther P99 page ==

hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page

i'm still learning how to edit. apologies

edit: appreciate it :)

==Hollowpoint==
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.

== American Gangster page ==

Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.

==the subject of "dibbs"==
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.

There you go, I cut the black bars off the [[Hostage]] screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on [[Hot Fuzz]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==fun gun==
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FG42 1st pattern rifle - 7.92mm]]
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Excellent work!! ==

Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!

==Movies to screengrab==
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.

==Remington 870==
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Morita Rifle==
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Bangkok Dangerous==
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==tropic thunder==
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==590==
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==You're not gonna believe this==
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==On some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Smokin' Aces ==

Hey GM45, do you by any chance have [[Smokin' Aces]]? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==New screencaps==
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Workload==
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:U.S. Marshals==

Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== anonymous users ==

It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Molotovs==
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==.PNG Images==

Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.

==Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics==
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Late model Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and transitional rear sight (same as M1 first model)]]

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== the other Glock ==
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.

==Alien Nation==
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ''Jingle All the Way'' ==

Thanks for the compliments on ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== The Dark Knight ==

I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do [[The Dark Knight]], you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

::I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.
[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Got it for you==
Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:H&K94Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|HK94 converted into a full auto gun with chopped barrel - 9mm]]

==T2==
I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)

BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.

Check this out: :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FNC semi auto imported rifle - marked FNC 223 REM SPORTER on the receiver - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps on Commando==
I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape. ==

You can do it.I don´t mind.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen ==
Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68

== Re: Scarface ==

I'll try to get more shots for [[Scarface]] when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on [[Mail Call]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.6.6.30]

This made me really pissed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==

I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a ''severe'' warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313

==24==

Will you be around today to screen cap [[24]] Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on [[24]]. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on [[24]] the page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Lord of War==

Eh, depends. Main question is, how ''many'' additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the ''[[Lord of War]]'' page is one of the site's most popular.

::I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Tyrannasaurus ==

It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Godfather ==

Thanks, ''[[The Godfather]]'' is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: The Departed==

Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.

Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on ''[[Get Smart]]''! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), ''and'' I got two days off from work, ''and'' I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.

:Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Good suggestions! ==

Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of ''[[The Getaway (1972)]]'' so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: The Untouchables ==

Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Mail Call ==

Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.

Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.

I made some edits to it but they got erased. Why? I'm still working on screencapping yet, i didn't have enough time to add gun pics and you didn't add them. P.S When will you be getting season 3-8? [[User:Drjuki]]

Oh, ok. I thought you ment don't add any seasons since you were going to do that. I didn't know you were going to through the earlier seasons. You know who. Drjuki.

== The Untouchables ==

Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.

== XXX ==

Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in [[Armageddon]], [[XXX]] and [[Death Race]]. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from [[We Were Soldiers]] that we had two miniguns mount on.

== Video Games ==

Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.

== Iron Man CAR15 ==

In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M60E1 machine gun ==

I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M1 Garand question ==

I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the '''M60''', I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)
[[Image:M60SnapShotOnSet.jpg]]
:Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM

==Re:Hitman==

Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==

Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances.
[[User: Charon68]]

==Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...
[[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by "Ace Hanlon" ([[Lance Henriksen]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' .45 LC. This is the actual live firing screen gun used by Lance Henriksen.]]
[[Image:Remington1875Q&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The custom engraved Remington 1875 used by John Herod ([[Gene Hackman]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This it the ACTUAL revolver used by Hackman in the Saloon sequence.]]
[[Image:Remington1875SilverQ&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|This it the Custom All silver Remington 1875 used by 'The Kid' ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This is the actual revolver handled by DiCaprio in the Gun Store scene!.]]

Like it? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I got more, but they're not western related ==
I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....

[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kimber Custom TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free and Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Replacing some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Your page format==
I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==SOCOM Mk 23==
The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Hitman==

It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.

Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gunner313 ==

Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Iron Giant'' ==

I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shoot 'Em Up.==

Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.

- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==push==
Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Legends of the Fall ==

Hi, I congratulate you for you work!
Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film?
Sorry for my bad english.

== Legends of the Fall (again) ==

Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.

== shotgun in Thunderball ==

Hey I just posted screenshots from ''[[Thunderball]]'' and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a [[Remington 870]]) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Tanks for your answer ==

Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.

==SIG==

Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for ''Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft'' (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Rundown==
Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are '''not''' what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also '''replace''' any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Blank revolver question==
My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shit==

I just did an edit on ''[[The Rundown]]'' while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Norinco SKS Sporter==
Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.

==Blank revolvers==
Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM

==The Rundown==
BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shootemup==
I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Legends of the Fall==
I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.

==Street Kings==

Hey,

I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the ''[[Street Kings]]'' page. And I literally just mean a few:

*(1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
*(2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
*(3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.

Would that be OK?

Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect.
--[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.

:Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates ([[Common]]) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

==Unforgiven Shotgun==

Hi

The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, Check out the photo of the W. Richards that I just posted. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Dust hit gun==
It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM

==Review on Wanted==
You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. '''Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. ''' I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that '''Darth Vader is Luke's father''', some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==watermark==
excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
'''Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1'''
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== some Westerns ==

Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for ''[[The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford]]'' and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on ''[[American Outlaws]]'' which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: Boondock Saints==

Dude, armory scenes in movies ''always'' suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' or ''[[The Matrix]]''. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an ''extremely'' regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.

As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - ''[[Menace II Society]]'' and ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1897==

Hey John

I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Appaloosa==
Hey John
Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.
:No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix==
Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little ''''squished''''. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)

[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-DEa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-Cheetah2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-CheetahA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Admins==
FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008
::Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM

== Speakeasy804 ==

I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Need your help here==
Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....

[[Image:MMS-Twin-Silenced-Pistolsa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]
[[Image:MMS-TwinSilencedPistols2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]

Here are the candidates that people suggested:
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkCamperSS.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmark2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk II - Silenced]]
[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk III silenced - note the slight changes from the Mark II]]

What do you think? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
::When I saw this, I felt like a kid in some kind of store - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith==
Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".
[[Image:MMS-QuoteCorrect.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The Correct quote - what John Smith says after blowing up the shack.]]
Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

==Colt 25?==
I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Re: Sgt. York ==
Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==MM Smith Unknown 1911 Variant==
Hey John, I believe the 1911 shown is a Mile High Armory custom built 45 pistol. I also looks like a left hand 1911 as I can not see the slide stop or thumb safety on the side with the ejection port like a Randall left handed 1911. Check out http://www.milehigharmory.com they have a photo of a Randell. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Check under portfolio for the photos of their work. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Pages Lock Out==
Hey John, I know when you are completely done with a page some of the Mod's lock them out. I figure that way no one can mess with their Pet. But why lock out the actors pages associated with that show? The actors associated with [[The Wild Geese]] can not be accessed to add information and other shows since they worked more than one show. I thought the whole purpose of this wiki is to get the most complete information on the Show,Actor and Weapon possible. Please help out on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== 1911's and other models. ==

Thanks for your message. Very nice. Don't worry about how some cops might think you're a smart ass. We all tend to be that way when it comes to teenagers.Teenagers and cops are like oil and water. But usually once we see that you're on the level we tend to change our tone.Take me for example. I'm an '''old''' cop. At 41 I tend to come across as an old grouchy fart to kids, but I do warm up.

I grew up in a 1911 household. My father was also a cop as well as a Vietnam veteran. Though he carried the S&W Model 28 and later the S&W Model 65 as his sidearms he was (is) all about 1911's. At one point he owned ''seven'' of them. He's now down to a 1911A1, Colt Commander and a Colt Officers Model.

Even though I appreciate what John Browning accomplished with the 1911, and aknowledge it's strengths (i.e. it's excellent grip), I've just never taken a liking to it. When it comes to autos I prefer the "classic" Sig design, Glock and Beretta. I'm also fond of the Browning Hi-Power so Mr. Browning's pistol designs do have some influence with me.

However I'm a big fan of revolvers. I own many many wheelguns. Smith & Wessons make up the bulk of my collection, but there are a couple Colts and a [[Webley Mk VI]] - which is my pride and joy.

I've been a gun-nut almost all of my life so you are not unusual at your age. I'm a firearms instructor at my department as well. Combine my interest of firearms with my love of movies and many of my fellow officers look at me like I'm some type of whacko. But whne they have a question about guns, movies or need help improving their pistol score guess who they come looking for?

Talk to you later. [[Jcordell]]

Oh one more thing. I downloaded an image of a [[Savage 99]] rifle. I even figured out how to create a page, but how do I get the image to show up on the page? I have a link but no photo. Help me out partner. Please. [[Jcordell]]

== Thanks for your help ==

Appreciate it. HAve to help us old guys out now and again. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]
Ah - ha! Got it.

The lever action rifle dosen't deliver the same type of accuracy as a bolt action. But it's fast and easy for lefties (like me) to use with ease. Plus there is the historical signifance.

== Winchester Model 1895 ==

I live in Idaho. Last summer Imade it down to Provo, Utah and went to the Browning museum. Also went and saw the old Browning shop. I mentioned that I don't really care for the 1911. But I do enjoy the Hi-Power and I'm a big fan of the Winchester 1895. I own one in 30-06. One of the new ones made back in 1996. I also own an 1897 riot-gun which I'm fond of. So I understand your fondess of Browning guns. Take care. Keep on working.

I've done what I could for Dirty Harry and Outlaw Josey Wales pages but I'm sure you'll improve them.[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== My job here ==

Yeah, you're right about my "act" here. I've been a little sloppy lately and I will finish doing the rest of some of the pages like my first few. Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Black Lagoon are pages I really need to do since they were my first pages. I'll make a note to finish those pages and put links on them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Colt Troopers. ==

Will do. I didn't know that. Thanks.

==Colt Mustang==
The Colt Mustang (a .380 pistol) is on the M1911 page. I don't think it belongs there. All those other models are in .45 acp (or they have other calibers as well as 45 ACP), but essentially they are .45 guns. I was going to pull the Colt mustang and create a page for the Mustang/Pony since they are both subcompact Colt guns in .380. What do you think? MPM20008

==S&W MkII Hand Ejector==
Hey John, I think this and the S&W M1917 has the same info they both the same N frames different calibers. Maybe they should be combined into a S&W Pre-War N Frame or the M1917 info transferred to the S&W MkII Hand Ejector. The same goes for the Colt M1917 as it is a Colt New Service in .45 ACP. Just thought you should know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the green handgun, with the way actors treat guns sometimes, one can only imagine.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

==orphaned image==
What is this from? It's not linked to any page.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:45-110Sharps.jpg
MPM2008

==Bergmann MP18==
Hey John. In the Gun section we have a duplicate listing the Bergmann MP18 which is fine and the MP18. They both have the same info and photo figure that you can get rid of one. Thanks. Steve

== ''CSI: Miami'' S&W Semi-Auto ID ==

I don't think the pistol shown on ''[[CSI: Miami]]'' is a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5946|S&W 5946]]. If you look at the screenshot versus the photo on the gun's page, you can see the gun in the screenshot has a decocker safety on the right side of the slide while the one in the photo does not. The [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4046|Smith & Wesson 4046]] does have a right-handed safety though. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

==In the Line of Fire Llama==
Hey John, Just to give you a heads up the Llama used In The Line of Fire is a Llama IIIA in .380 caliber. The weapons on the show were supplied by Ellis Mercantile. Also I might have a photo of the prop double for the composite pistol. The firing model was cut into three pieces after the movie was filmed. Thanks Steve

==XM16E1==

Hey John, I edited one of MPM's photo hope he doesn't mind to much but his photos are awesome. I worked on get those rifles ready for We Were Soldiers a couple of month prior to filming. It's amazing the research we did on all the weapons from that battle reconfigured our XM16E1 back to 1965. We even built the correct AK's for Vietnam since everyone else always used stamped receiverd AK. When the show was done everyone though we were wrong until you look and the combat photos and we were correct. Most critics completely missed that we only had two of the correct model Huey's. Steve

==Idea for New Page==
Hey John, I had an idea for a new page just on blank cartridges. Maybe we can ask MPM about getting some photos or I can get some myself when I go back to the armory after wrap. Thanks Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. (for the record, YOU ALWAYS gave me credit and it was appreciated. Besides, I always ended up photographing the real deal as a result). Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

== M4 vs. M4A1 ==

The original M4 did NOT have a removable carry handle, it had a fixed one with 3-round burst. The original M4 was pretty much an M16A2's upper & lower recievers with a telescoping stock and 14.5" barrel with cuts for mounting the M203 ahead of the front sight assembly. It was the later M4A1 that featured the flat-top upper/full auto lower reciever assemblies. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

The very earliest Type 56s, which were made 1956-1963, were built with milled receivers. The Poly Tech Legend is something completely different - it's a semi-auto copy of the original AK-47 designed for the civilian market in the 1980s. It looks almost identical to the original Russian AK-47 (visually, they're pretty much impossible to tell apart) and does not have the full-circle front sight of the Type 56. The receiver style has nothing to do with it. There were Type 56s which had milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:No worries. Also, I addressed your debate with Orca on the M4/M4A1 on his talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Young Guns ==

Great job with ''[[Young Guns]]''! I especially liked the inclusion of the picture of the real Billy the Kid holding his Winchester compared to the photo of Estevez in the film. Nice added historical bit - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:You were definitely right about the picture, the more I look at it the more I wonder if there wasn't ''something'' they could've done to make it look a little more accurate. Thanks for the compliment about the Bond films (they're favorites) and good luck with the ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' films and all - Clint will be proud once he sees the work you've done! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:: Nice job on Young Guns including the photo of the real Billy the Kid. I don't know if you knew this fact about that photo is that the plate was reversed. The load gate on the Winchester is on the wrong side where as the Emilio Estevez photo is on the correct side.

==RE: RoboCop 2==

Thanks! I actually think it's a cool concept, but for Hob, it's the perfect weapon. It goes with his whole tactic of taking advantage of his age. "Officer reporting: It's just some kid carrying a blue lunchbox. No way he shot those dudes."

Sorry to hear you're sick, but have fun doing the "Dirty Harry" movies. Oh, and I had no idea that Eastwood's gun in the first one was a Model 25. That's news to me, but it does make perfect sense, for the reasons you explained. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== re: Nice Work ==

Thanks for the compliments! Feel free to make any adjustments with the Model B on ''The Untouchables'' page, I had neglected to think about that when I made the page, assuming Costner was using all M1911A1s and only that one henchman had a Star. Looking back, I can see I was wrong but I didn't get enough angles in enough scenes to discern when Costner had a Model B. I appreciate the help with that!
Also, I'll peruse ''The Godfather'' sometime very soon and get a shot of the M1A1, just for completion's sake.
On a different note, great job with the first ''Dirty Harry''. Those pages have been in dire need of a fix-up and you're certainly doing justice to those great movies! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also, I recall maybe a few weeks ago you had asked about ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' - I just fixed it up tonight in case you're interested/have any input - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have ''Casino Royale'' so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get ''Quantum of Solace'' pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is ''Never Say Never Again'' which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with ''Magnum Force'' as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:::I never saw ''Flashpoint'' but the caps we have from it make it look pretty entertaining. Also, I saw ''Magnum Force'' is done - looks great! I should have a bunch more DVDs coming in this week so I'll try and get back on my game. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle ==
Gunmaster,
Could you please mearge this page with the Short Action Lee Enfield page as the Enfield Enforcer is just a 7.62 NATO version of the WW2 Lee Enfield Sniper varient.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman==
Hi John, Nice to be back after working on location. I notice this page list as new the tile is misspelled and the format is not correct. Could you fix this as it does not look right being misspelled. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== KAC SR-25 ==

If you read the paragraph at the top of the [[Knight's Armament SR-25]] page, you'll see that the M110 is the designation of the SR-25 given by the U.S. Army. Aside from the name and some other minor differences, they're virtually identical weapons. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hello other-young-gun-nut ==

I finally have an account here now, I've been working on the site for about a year as an AU. Some of the pages I've helped create inclue CSI miami which I pretty much built up from the ground, and The Island, Constantine, and LA Confidential. Dude, we NEED to do HOUSE MD!--[[User:GlocksRevilACP|GlocksRevilACP]] 04:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Beretta 9000S==
You da man! I figured your EAGLE EYES would catch which beretta model Jane's gun was...! :) MPM2008

== Dirty Harry Series Re-vamp ==

If you're the one who has been re-vamping the Diry Harry movies, thank you so much. It was really weak at first and you made it WAY better. I hope you re-vamp ''Sudden Impact'' and ''The Dead Pool'' as well because they are pretty weak.

== Hostage Molotovs ==

While I understand that you worked on this page (and, I must admit, you did a damn good job on it), please remember that this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs aren't firearms. Sorry.

:That seems fair enough. Thank you for at least taking the time to talk to me, instead of just throwing a ban on me for a "first offense" so to speak (a few other administrators tend to overreact). I understand now. Thanks.

==Colt 1903 new page==
Hey John, There is a new Colt 1903 page that needs to be removed as it is a duplicate of the Colt Model 1903/1908 page we already have. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT Pistols page==
Awesome work on the AMT page. It's been needed. Have you been talking to Rockwolf? Anyway, it's been sorely needed, but this was the best compromise possible since these guns were 'automags' in name only. Unfortunately there are VERY few of these types of guns in movie weapons rental inventory. No one ever wanted them. MPM2008
:: Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. ''"No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!"'' So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That would make sense, since changing the name to one word rather than two words was the way AMT tried to legally differentiate themselves from AMC. Unfortunately TONS of literature and sources on the net screw it up and name the AMT guns with Auto Mag versus Automag. And vice versa. It's your page. It's up to you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Last crusade==
Thanks. I screencapped ALL of the Indy films but I have to resize them and fix them for uploading. I sure hope no one starts doing it before I'm done. I hope some of the other users don't mind i replaced their shots, but some of the screenshots are pretty blurry or just not really clear. I don't know how it looks on your monitor, but I think my screenshots are clearer (take some of the other indy films for instance, except for the obvious "Production stills"). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redacted==
For the record, I am offended that this title is on here and would sooner see it deleted. I am going to request to the other admins that it be deleted. It is an insult to all Veterans (myself included). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC) And if Bowling for Columbine ever shows up here, it's gone.

::Edit, sorry I'm not picking on you. I just didn't want you to go through the trouble of screencapping that film. I figured all the younger members of IMFDB aren't as tuned into the feelings of American Veterans. MPM

==Thanks for the reply==
But I would argue its a lot easier to hold an absolutely 'neutral' attitude when one has no 'dog in the fight' per se. Having served some time in service I have such a disdain for that work that I must admit I get really angry when I see it. Perhaps in years to come, like the people who suffered on 9/11 may be able to stomach "watching a movie where Americans are the bad guys and the hijackers are the heroes", I may be able to stomach trash like DePalma's piece of crap. There are tons of more worthy films that have not been listed yet. We are so far away from being the all encompassing film database like IMDB that if we get closer to listing EVERYTHING, then we would be obligated to list even the most despicable listings. I would argue that it is controversial right now (perhaps not so much later on), but there is little upside to keeping it. Again thanks for your honest discourse. Always a pleasure. MPM2008

==addendum==
Yeah, I probably would feel better if we had a disclaimer that we don't support the film but list it for purely informational purposes so that IMFDB doesn't end up offending vets or families of vets who come here. I think that is the biggest concern for me. Anyway, thanks again for the note. Now that we're getting controversial, I might as well start listing the guns for "Triumph of the Will" ;) hahahah. thanks again. MPM2008

== Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]] ==

You're right about the model used by Tyne Daley in [[The Enforcer]]. It does look like a Python snubbie, but I still think Felton Perry is using a Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]]. It looks like it has a smaller frame which would match the Diamondback. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

Great. thanks. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: LaFrance Specialties M16K Question==
Hey John, Tim LaFrance made the M16K with both types of upper receivers. I am trying to nail down how many variations of the M16K there are. I have what looks like four variation maybe five. But the one in your photos are M16K. Hope this helps. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I just uploaded a photo of the M16K with Forward Assist that you can use. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

I've used a .45 version of the M-16K in my personal fiction but I don't think that one has appeared on film yet. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==VIP==
Thanks. I work hard on the Screenshots to make them look better. And as you've pointed out, I like bad cinema and tv. re: Model 36 pic. I don't want it to seem that I was in any way yelling at you when I reverted that image. That picture bothers me now. It was a project gun of a gunsmith and I checked the frame and it was definitely marked 36-2 (I take detailed notes when I take photographs of guns) and I'm no Smith & wesson expert, but the details LOOK like the more modern revolvers. Should I delete the image? The front sight and cylinder latch 'could' have been updated with newer parts. I hate having pics like this which 'could' be custom and not indicative of a standard model. Thoughts? MPM2008

==VIP gun help==
I have some pics in the 'to be sorted' section of the VIP page. Two shots of a suppressed pistol and one hard to see shot of an LAPD detective's revolver. Since you're the eagle eye on the site, do you have any ideas? Thanks. MPM2008

== Diamondback or Python ==

Hey, I know you just finished re-vamping ''[[The Enforcer]]'', so I figure you'd be able to help. I'm not so sure that Insp. Moore is using a Colt Python. It's possible, but it looks more like the Diamondback that Insp. Perry used in the previous movie, ''[[Magnum Force]]''. What do you think? [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

Well for what it's worth I think that Tyne Daley is carrying a Colt Python "snubbie" in ''[[The Enforcer]]''. It looks to be the right size since the Diamondback is built on the same frame as the Colt Detective Special while the Python was built on the old 41 frame - a bigger frame. Also the hammer's spur on the revolver carried by Tyne Daley looks like a Python hammer instead of the Diamondback. But I do believe that Felton Perry was carrying a Diamondback in ''[[Magnum Force]]''. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Outlaw Josey Wales ==

Nice work. One of my favorite movies and the original page bothered me. It's looking very good. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==What the hell happened with In The Line of Fire?==

Your pictures and information show up on the history pages, but when you click on the main link, it shows the page as it was before you touched it. WTF? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 23:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

==Collateral==
Hey John, Matt had asked me that same question so I talked to the other armorer on set Larry. Larry confirmed it was a two-tone Jericho 941 Blued slide and a hard chrome receiver. I was working with the SWAT guys for the night club scene and Larry handled the stunt guy which is who had that weapon. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:John, It looks like the first photo is the two-tone Jericho 941 and photos two and three are the two-tone EAA Witness as those are different stuntmen. I would try and get some paperwork as backup but those were Gibbons Ltd gun and they have been sold to ISS.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, I have an ID for that other pistol on Collateral for you. I Talked to Larry who was the General Manager of Gibbons Ltd and the armorer on Collateral. He looked up the paperwork on the show and said they were the Sphinx AT 2000 made in Switzerland. I have found the photo and will add shortly. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:: John, That's a lot of movies for the weekend can't wait to see them. I am working on the following
* ''[[Miracle at St. Anna]]'' filling out the page
* ''[[Bullets or Ballots]]''
* ''[[Warbirds]]'' A bad SciFi Channel Movie.
* ''[[Lady Gangster]]''

Screencaps are finished on those movies just working on the layouts.

==Winchester 1892==
John, Sorry about the upload of the 94. I deleted the 92 thinking it was the 94 I will have to see my friend to take the photo again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Category:Flare Pistol==
Hey John, Could you please delete this category I made this one by mistake. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks for the assist. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I appreciate the weapons I missed. That's the eagle eyes I expect. BUT .... I'm not at all happy with MORE shots of the guns I already have. You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion regarding the number of screenshots for a movie page. You like to have WAY more than I like to have per weapon and though it really irritates me, I don't do anything to your pages. I do get annoyed when you add gun pics to the sections where I already have pics. I certainly cannot trim down the screenshots on pages that you make, though on pages like LMS I sure would like to delete about HALF of the screenshots, Why should I have to accept something which I fundamentally disagree with ... on my own pages? MPM

==Seecamp==
Are you answering the question I asked MT2008? re: the Seecamp 32 in Die Hard with a Vengeance? or are you ID'ing the pistol that Pamerla Andersen has in the bathtub in V.I.P.? Also I have some guns I can't ID on the Bionic Woman page, so I'd ask the EAGLE EYE if you have the time MPM2008

==RE:==

Well, I see you're already doing it anyway. :) But yeah, it's cool if you want to upload more. Just don't go ''too'' crazy. Also, you should go ahead and separate the AK variants. When I did this page originally, IMFDB wasn't in the habit of distinguishing the Norinco Type 56s from the AK-47 or AKM, so go ahead and separate the first section into the different variants. Also, it seems a lot of the Type 56-1s in the movie have the AKM-style receiver cover and grip. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, you can replace all my old ones if you wish. They're somewhat lower-res than yours. Also, did you see the nickel-plated AK on the wall of Yuri's weapons container? The one with the forward grip? That's this gun: http://weaponspecialists.com/view-prop.php?id=160&name=AK47-Stainless It was originally made for the movie ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

:Sounds good. It looks WAY better, plus it has lots of guns that I missed. Also, I think there may be an AR-7 variant in Yuri's gun container (it's visible in the same screencap as the ''[[Belly]]'' AK). I have a few more comments on the page, but I'll wait until you're done before I make them to avoid edit conflicts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bourne Identity (1988) ==

Hey, thanks for the quick help with some of the guns in the original Bourne Identity. Before I change the Makarov entry, you said it was actually a CZ-82. Is each gun used a CZ-82 or just ones in certain scenes? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I don't think we have an entry yet on those, do you know any other movies they were in? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Interesting, learn something new everyday. I'll link it to the CZ-83 page with an explanation on the picture that's a commercial version of the military pistol. And of course, thanks for the help! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Hey John, I see that you added the blued Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 back to the Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 page. Just to let you know the the revolver was never issued blued it was issued in a bare metal finish only. That was the reason I uploaded the correct image over MPM's. Just letting you know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I agree with keeping the original finish, but here's a thought ..., if some armorer somewhere, at sometime decided to BLUE his gun and it appeared in any film (I'm not saying it has) but if it did, we would be benefited from having a blued version, even though it would technically be some gunsmith's aftermarket conversion. Just at thought. But the revolver WAS issued only "in the white" historically... :) MPM2008

==Did you take this picture?==
I was going to replace it with a licensed shot I shot myself of the same pistol but I wouldn't if you were the original photographer of this shot. Thanks. MPM2008
http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/S%26W25.jpg

== Help ==

How do i take picures and add them to the website like the pink panther 1 which i seen alot of guns. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S R U AND ADMIN OR A SYSOP? [[User:Drjuki]]

Srry i'm asking alot of questions i'm kinda new here, anyway do you know of the game endless war? if you do would it be considered a flash animation? and also who created this site? thanks. [[User:drjuki]]

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Redirecting ==

How do you properly do Redirects without losing the history of the page it was before? Because everytime I do it, I mess up somehow. I tried redirecting to The Hills Have Eyes to Hills Have Eyes (2006), The, but got a red link, so I a filled in the blank page, and the somehow, the original name to the the pages still remains in the recent changes list. Thanks for any help.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'll remember to use move instead, some anonymus user created the page before I tried redirecting it. I know I haven't done any work in a long time, once in awhile I'll find a movie I want to screencap, right now I'm thinking about uploading some extra shots for [[I Am Legend]]. Btw, good job on you most recent pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I found a few good shots in the movie that were missed, although I'm not completely comfortable about replacing someone else's screengrabs, so I might put some screenshots on the talk page for anyone who's more comfortable with replacing them. Also, I've seen Ctone's blog too, and he does a great job, especially with his screenshots. I think I might get started screencapping now since I have alot of free time. Thanks for the Redirect btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I got so far, and I'll be uploading more tomorrow as well. If you have any suggestions for screenshots, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

==Madness Combat==
Does anyone where i could post a madness combat page, i have like tewlve pages filled with guns and I HAVE TO POST THEM!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Drjuki]]

No i know i can't post them here, i was just wondering if you knew a site where i could. [[User:Drjuki]]

== I Am Legend ==

Sure, I'll get pictures when I put the DVD in.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Call of duty 2 ==

Hey i don't plan these i just add pics if it needsem or add text if it needs em. I don't even have half the games i edit on here. [[User:Drjuki]]

Yes I was. [[User:Drjuki]]

== RE: COD4(DS) ==
Beacause I've seen some site that listed them. IMFDB Isn't the only site that has weapons in Anime, Movies, TV, And Video Games you know. Sure it's the best one but, you know there are some sites. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S The reason I don't write very well is because I am not used to writing without spellcheck, and grammer check. [[User:Drjuki]]

That is a good I will do that. [[User:Drjuki]]

== Pictures ==

I have a question, if there was a movie where a guy got his head blown off but he had a gun in his hand, would users be allowed to take that pic and other gruesome images? [[User:Drjuki]]

Would you be able to tell me a list of pages that have those? Not all them but just the ones you know. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

== Contact Info? ==

Hey GM45, I was wondering, do you have any instant messenger programs or the like? I'd like to chat with you off-site if possible. You can send your contacts to the email address listed on my userpage if you'd prefer to keep from getting spammed. Hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey um, i have a website that has a chatroom on it it's kinda a failed project it's not done yet, if so how's may 9th 3:30?
heres the link http://charlietheunicornstuff.synthasite.com/

You know what f**k that [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

==Re:Appaloosa==
Hey John, Glade you like the film I enjoyed it. Most armories will not give credit to the designer or build for fear they client will go direct to the designer next time around. I only have one armory that tells everyone what I build for them. I will work on those 8 Gauge photos this weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Not sure who did the sound for the show. They most likely re-recorded all the gunfire as they plan to make a second movie. That way the will have their own sound library for the next show.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Appaloosa screencaps. ==

Looking forward to your screencaps. It's a great movie and the page has been needing some help. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. Probably one of the best westerns I've seen in years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:Hey John, Nice work on the [[Appaloosa]] page. I am going though the build photos for the [[SK 1878 shotgun]] now and hope to post late tonight the photos and some background with them. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

== When we're gone... ==
What are we going to do when are syops and admins start leaving? When we die, (not literally but not go here anymore) what will happen? Will we appoint new ones? (P.S I've helped out every call of duty page, so thats 10 pages!) Or will we just shut down this site? Will we start making pages for Halo and gears of war when lasers come out? Drjuki.

== Flash ==

Could we make a seperate IMFDB for just flash? We could call it IFFDB (Internet Flash Firearms DataBase)? Drjuki.

==Can You use this anywhere?==
[[Image:TaurusPT92-2tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Taurus PT92 Two Tone - 9mm]]
Another MPM 2008 Image.... ;) MPM2008

==More for your Shootem up page==
[[Image:TaurusPT92AF-Reverse2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Reverse Two Tone Taurus PT92AF - 9mm]]
The arm has a reverse two tone gun like this one. I think this image can help. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

==blanks==
I am super busy today, but I am going to look at one of our Hollywood blank and perhaps take a pic of how the cardboard wad is constructed and send it off. regards. MPM2008

== Deadwood ==

Hey GM, I just screencapped the first season of ''[[Deadwood]]''. Since you're a pro with that time period, I was wondering if you'd be able to give it a look at all if you have a chance just to check to see if I've been getting things right? Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 21:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry about my late response, I've been busy between work and finishing the Deadwood page. It's all done now so I'll go through looking for errors and discrepancies, etc., etc. I appreciate your information added about the S&W Models 1 and 2, which I'll try to sort out once I can find good gun pictures for each to use. In response to grouping the SAAs together, I would do so (as I normally do) but since I took a large number of screencaps, I decided it would be at least a semi-logical way to split it up. The ''[[Joe Kidd]]'' page looks great of course; very interesting to see a C96 used in a Western (although it's a shame they used the typical Hollywood bottomless magazine!) Finally, I'm very impressed by "Gladys" your 1911! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taken==
Go ahead, John. I was planning on going to get it, but a shitload of work just came my way. Happy hunting. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

==Joe Kidd==
Hey John, Looking over the Joe Kidd page you built looks nice. I believe that the Colt 1877 Lightning you show in the capture is a Colt 1878 Double Action in 45 Long Colt. Also the Lightning photo you posted in the Lightning page for Kill Bill is a Cimarron Lightning Single Action. If thats the case does that go in the Single Action Army page like the Uberti's? -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, You are correct I would only add strange Uberti, Hartford and others that were used like the Hartford Model Sheriff and Pinkerton that we used in the Streets of Laredo. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Admin ==
Hey how many pages do you have to edit or make to become a admin? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Matrix: Revolutions ==
Hey, I didn't know whether to put this here or on the Matrix page, but I'll put it both places.
I'd kind of like to do M:R but I saw that you had it down on your to do list. It's yours if you want it, but you might have bigger stuff on your plate. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 05:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, go ahead! --[[Special:Contributions/207.108.206.237|207.108.206.237]] 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: your guns ==
I'd never taken a look at your firearm collection before, but did today. You have some awesome stuff. Being a sucker for 1911's I really like Gladys, and the "Spanish Llama XV" guns. This is really not a post of any real value, but damn. Those are amazing.
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Eastwood's page ==

Would you have a problem if I began organizing some of the larger actor pages, such as Eastwood's, chronologically and by film to make them easier? I'd leave the same photos and everything but I just feel the pages should be in some sort of order. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 23:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Desert Eagle Love ==

Thanks, and yes, I know that it is a pretty impractical weapon (don't rub it in), but a few folks I know just like that weapon. I'm just a big fan of large caliber weapons, and I'm just one of those few who just, well you know. Anyways, I'm honored to have become a user on this site. P.S. Thanks for the pointer!
- [[User:500Magnum]]

==I owe you an apology on the Model 60==
Well, today I saw the owner of the Model 36 in satin nickel and he said 'that's not in satin nickel. I was talking about another gun. That's stainless', WTF? That's not what I remembered, but oh well. I popped it open and it is still marked Model 36, so I queried more about why it was marked Model 36-2 and he 'forgot' to mention that it was a factory missmark and thus was collectible. So my tirade about the Model 60 being a custom Model 36 seems a bit unnecessary. I showed him the IMFDB site and he basically concurred, there is nothing about that gun that makes it different from a Model 60 other than the weird factory model stamping which no one can see. I'm no S&W expert, but he set me straight and pointed out that I was wrong to complain about others naming it a 'model 60' when for all intents and purposes, it looks just like one. So I owe you an apology regarding the Model 36/Model 60. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== I like your pictures ==

I'd also like to comment on your pictures, and I think those are pretty good. You must have worked hard to get them.
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
What I meant to say was your screencaps were good; excuse me. - [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

== New IMFDB? ==
This is hyothetical, say there were some movies I liked and I wanted just them on a site. So I make a website with let's say the matrix. now let's say I copied and pasted descriptions and copied pics from imfdb. Would I be able to do that if I say that I got them from Imfdb.org? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 22:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok That wasn't hypothetical, I'd already done it and wanted to make sure I could keep it. Don't worry. I deleted it. no more. I hope you don't sue me for everything i've got. (P.S. I'm only 10 so that won't work very well.) (P.S.S. Why won't you shoot the nambu?

== I am Legend ==

I got the last screenshots for I Am Legend up, and sorry for the really long delay. how does it look now?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and no problem, I'm glad those templates are gone too, I don't understand why Dragon would even use them when they looked bad, plus we never needed them anyway, I mean it's not that hard to make a simple phrase at the top of each page. About the forum, I signed up for it a few months ago, but I lost my password, I'll be sure to sign up for it again eventually since it appears to be really active. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Pineapple Express ==

Thanks for warning me about the widescreen bars. It took a while, but I removed all of the bars on each of the caps I saved. Tommorrow, I'll replace the ones I aleready posted, and continue my work on the page. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep this in mind for my future postings.
--[[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 12:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Comments in Articles ==
I have relocated several comments of yours from the body of the article to the discussion page. All signed comments should be posted in the discussion page. Otherwise, great work, keep it up. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 20:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandals ==
What would you do if some one erased mail call. Like they made a account just to vandalise. and if i put sucks on Twilight, would it count as vandalism? P.S can you tell me when you're done with mail call? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't you think you got it when you're done with mail call, could you tell me that you're done on my talk page? (P.S. I've looked at my contributions and i've made 545 edits! sadly none of them are screencaps, so I can't be a admin yet :( and hey I made a spongbob page (for fun) and I can't beleve how fast it dissapeared! could you tell me who and what happened to it? and hey how old were you when you got made an admin and when you joined?) (P.S.S. The reason I didn't make any screencaps is that my dad won't show me the program that we have because he doesn't like guns and sorry I'm asking so many questions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Help with Identifying Guns ==
hi, I was talking to a friend and he said that he saw 2 unusual weapons on CSI, i was wondering if you could tell me whether or not they were real

the first was a gun that, somehow was able to shoot 2 rounds into the same wound whilst only clicking the trigger once. (sorry if its quite vague); and the other was a gun that was known on CSI:Miami as the "Vapouriser", in the show it turned a person into a mist of blood.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 22:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== thanks man ==

thanks for the help man, a said to my friend I thought that the "vapouriser" wasnt real, but he was adamant about it.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== "Gladys" ==
: That is one nice 1911 you have there.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Last Boy Scout Page==
I read on page ''The Last Boy Scout'' that you want to restore it. I had not noticed that your message and I have already prepared all the screencaps and some information (work at 50%). Can I prepare that page or want it you? Or you want my screencaps and you write the description because I spoke bad English? [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
::I think that your work will certainly be better than mine. I asked you just to know what was your job. If you're ready to upload good work! ^_^ - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Mail Call ==

I know you don't listen to me and use this to make the score bigger, but counting the REPEATS of weapons already establish. The Garand, the M16 repeats at least 3 times and you counted them into the score. That's just stupid. It's like if I take the 4 seasons of the Unit an counted 1 for every time I see a firearm, even though I have already established that we do see it from season 1. I put down M4s, but I don't do it 4 different times because this rifle has appeared in all the seasons, I just put images of how the rifle looks from each season under the M4 category. I label each section, handguns, SMGs, rifles, etc and put weapons under each regardless of the seasons they've appeared in. The format you've done for Mail Call makes it very messy and kind confusing and VERY unnecessarily LONG. I'm not dissing your efforts, I just think you over did it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

==Commando Tranquilizer Pistol==
Hey John, I noticed on another blog the Bennett had a tranquilizer pistol pointed and Matrix. Do you have a screen capture on this. I would pull it but I don't have the movie. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey John, Thanks for getting that screen cap later it was just miss identified as a Crossman Air Pistol. I figured that I would fix that little error. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Last Boy Scout Page ==

I have some screencps of various weapons that you haven't published in the page. Can I add them or you're still working on the project? I do not want to ruin your work. If you want I can show them before posting. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:I asked you only because I thought you had finished to post all the images. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Deadliest Warrior ==

Can you ID the Colt Revolver on my [[Deadliest Warrior]] page? Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Deleted article ==

Why did you delete the article for Perfect Dark? Was there something wrong with it I should know about? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Taps ==

Was limited in my resources when I first created the page. Thanks for not wiping out my contributions all together (which has happened before)and excellent work on the caps [[ User:Charon68|Charon68]]

==sorry==
I am sorry if you had issues with my categorizing the firearms lists of various pages. I only did so becaues I found it to be more organized on longer articles than the simple listing method used on shorter pages. I agree with you that since I did not write the original article I have no right to completely alter its format. I am sorry I did so and will cease making these changes in the future.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I just recieved your message thanking me for my cooperation. I had no idea that the one undoing all of my changes was the articles original author (I probably should have checked though) and had I been aware would have desisted immediatly. A simple message would have been enough to make me aware of my mistake, therefore the ultimatum included in your first message was both unnecessary and unappreciated. In the future if you could alert me to my mistakes without the use of threats I would be appreciative. I apologize if a sound angry at all (I'm not, nor do bear you any grudge) I was just slightly offended by the manner in which you told me stop changing page format.
:-Anonymous

== Help for new idiot... ==

Gunmaster45,

I saw your edits to a page (Thief) I created. I am very new, so forgive my indiscretions and errors in protocol. I was wondering if it would be possible to explain how to generate the table of contents present on each page. This is the boxed heading at the top of each page showing each gun and when clicked, takes you directly to each section (gun). I wasn't sure if posting this question here is proper, but I haven't found the help area that explains this action.

Thanks for your help in editing, and I have to say your work is excellent and I will strive to emulate your talent here on this site. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the help, Gunmaster45! I appreciate your fast response. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

::Your suggestions for screencap editing are welcome. I will strive to adhere to the protocols in the future. I was using a poor, non-widescreen version for the screencaps. I have the WS DVD on order and will try to capture next week. If you decide to screencap similar scenes in the meantime, have at it! Thanks for the help. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 06:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

==Picture Assistance==
I have been contributing to this website for a long time and have written several articles and provided additions to many others. However, while I identify gun use in my pages and include pictures of the firearms (taken from other articles on this site) I have never been able to figure out how to upload pictures to this site from outside sources. Any instruction you can provide on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. My computer skills are mediocre to say the least, therefore I would be greatful if you could make the instructions as simple as possible.
:-Anonymous

==Thank You==
I followed your instructions on how to post images from outside sources and found them both easy to comprehend and effective. Thank you for showing me how to do this so that I can greatly improve my articles.
:-Anonymous

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix Screencap==
I noted on the Matrix discussion page that I was conducting a test and had realized that the existing screencaps are distorted, but the image is exactly the same as yours (the exact frame actually). Nothing on the page has changed, other than the fact that it was not uploaded by you. When people change pages, they're actually CHANGING the page, i.e. making the content different. I will only replace screenshots if they're distorted or crap. Yours were not crap, but I noticed that they seemed stretched upwards and I conducted a test to verify that. MPM2008

== Crossfire Trail ==
That would be great. It's a good western made in the older Hollywood style. It was directed by Simon Wincer who also directed [[Lonesome Dove]] I just bought a brand new Dell computer which will allow me to do screencaps, but right now I'm busy with household stuff and it's still sitting in it's box along with the 20" Hi-def screen --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Did a little research through my ''American Rifleman'' back-issues. Found some useful info about the guns used by [[Tom Selleck]] in his many westerns in the May 2002 issue.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Quigley Down Under ==

All it says is that there were three Shilo Sharps No. 3 rifles in 45-110 manufactured for him to use in the movie. It's my understanding that one of the rifles was donated to the NRA museum by Selleck.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
That's what I figured. Oh by the way I picked up a Luger a few weeks ago. Manufactured in 1916 at the Erfurt goverment arsenal. Shoots like a champ.Here is a so-so picture I took.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There it is. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Luger One.JPG|thumb|350px|none]]

== Cool Guns ==

I've long considered the Luger P08, Mauser C96 Broomhandle, and the Webley Mk VI revolver to be "cool" handguns. Oh sure there are better handguns out there and certainly more modern handguns, but that itn't the point. Since I was your age (really) I have wanted an example of those three handguns. I now own a Webley Mk VI and a Luger. Perhaps one of these days I'll get a Broomhandle. We'll see. Your dad has a nice Luger there by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your dad has the C96 carbine? Partner you absolutely have to get a photo of that sucker posted. Lucky S.O.B. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==I see you replaced my pic==
And it wouldn't be so bad if your pic was better, but it's not. The contrast ratio is still 'muddy' and color saturation is still weaker. I thought you were more mature than this. I guess I was wrong. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==my apologies==
Like usual, you have a good (and mature beyond your years) explanation for your actions. I apologize. I must keep remembering that you are not like 99% of the guys .. ON the internet ... most of whom are petty. I see so much pettiness on the net that I sometimes forget that this is not the case everyone. THANKS for the explanation. And again, I apologize :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==The Matrix Reloaded==

I see you're re-vamping the page. Well and done, and good work so far. But I beg of you...please try and limit yourself to 5 screencaps per gun? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:What I would recommend if you have shots that look cool but you've reached the limit is to post them on the discussion page for other people to look at. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Call of duty ==

Hey i found some pics that i could use to TOTALLY revamp COD2, COD4, COD5, and soon MW2. If you could Ok it that would be great. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 00:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey i hope you saw COD2 took me all night. P.S. i'm done with COD4 it's awesome, and tommorow i'll work on COD4 (DS), and COD5. P.S.S. great job on The Matrix Revolutions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Screencap assisstance==
I am a little confused on what it is necessary to obtain sceencaps. I am under the impression that specific software is required inorder to play movies in a manner so that screencaps be taken. If that is the case where can this software be obtained.
:-Anonymous

==Payback edit mistake==
I recently viewed the changes you made to the ''[[Payback]]'' article. While I agree completely with your eliminating the Smith & Wesson model 29 and 28 sections and replacing them with one section on the model 27, I noticed that you got rid of the section on the Beretta 92 Porter uses akimbo with his 27. This weapon was definitely present in the film therefore I am confused as to why you omitted it. I have not changed this myself for fear I might accidentally undo some addition or correction.
:-Anonymous

==Commentary==
I always love your commentary, GM. -protoAuthor

==Payback response==
I contacted you immediately after noticing the omission. I checked the article shortly after finishing my message and noticed the change but did not have time to negate my comment before you responded.
:-Anonymous

==Payback again==
I noticed that you eliminated the section on the Smith & Wesson model 38. I am not necessarily disputing your actions I just don't entirely understand it because it looked like the gun was used based on the screencaps that were included.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
Sorry
:-Anonymous

==New Template==
Concerning the new template used to categorize information on recent actor articles, I was wondering whether existing articles would be retroactively changed to fit the new format or if it will be required on future pages.
:-Anonymous

== Payback Page ==

I know that the pages I do are horrible and very bad and I have no objection if someone restores this works, I'm even glad of it, but it was nice to be informed before the repubblication that 8 hours of my work are destroyed. Good job anyway. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:If you've forgotten to advice me it means that there is no problem. I misunderstood your action. It's all ok. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Gran Torino ==

Hey GM45, Great work on Payback, it looks awesome. I also would like to know when you plan on screencapping [[Gran Torino]]? Because it's a good movie and I'm looking forward to seeing it's page completed. I'm not trying to rush you or anything, I'm just curious.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Birthday ==
Your birthday is on the 27th? Mine is on the 30th! It is quite funny how they are so close together.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
I am sorry I made such amateur mistake, considering how similar the two guns are in most aspects I did not think that such a crucial difference existed. You were certainly in the right to remove my comment and I greatly appreciate your explaining the reason to me. On another subject, I was curious if you could get back to me on the Template question I posted 4 sections above.
:-Anonymous

==Template Comment==
Actually, I rather don't care for the new template. I looked at the text in the editing and saw that it is extremely complicated to create. In addition, while the new system presents more information in a more organized fashion, I find it less aesthetically pleasing that the older, simpler format. While I have no problem with the new template being used, I contacted you because I was hoping that contributors who prefer could still create articles using the older format.
:-Anonymous

==Template==
I understand that people will use the new template and have no problem with that. However, I am worried that it will be retroactivly applied to existing articles whether or not article's contributors approve.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Per the anonymous user's comment, (since I can't reply to him) The template only applies to ACTOR pages and Gun pages. No one user has ownership of an Actor page or gun page. Users have 'some' rights over MOVIE/TELEVISION/ANIME/VG pages that they have worked hard on, but that's only a courtesy. If something is horrendously wrong, like a new user creates a hideous page, they have no right to keep a stupid page (like the guy who put 'The Ring'' as a page, WTF?). MPM2008

== Another opinion on new template ==
I don't like it. And personally I don't think I'm going to use it on pages I start. Guess that's me just being an old asshole. sorry. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you're right. Just being muleheaded.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy early Birthday ==

Thanks GM, I was just wondering, Happy birthday in advance by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

==Payback yet again==
I noticed you removed all of my responses on the ''[[Payback]]'' page to your comments about mistakes the characters or filmmakers made. I realize that my comments made the text about the images rather lengthy and I apologize if they made you feel that I was being overly critical of you, but the reason I wrote them was because ''Payback'' is one of my favorite films and I felt the need to defend it when any justification could be made for its errors. I do not intend to replace my comments, however, deleting them while entirely disregarding the arguments they presented (my Walther-Bersa feature mistake excepted) seems a little discourteous. Once again I am sorry for giving you so much grief over this page the last couple of weeks, but as I stated this is one of my favorite films and I just wanted to see it done justice.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I realize you enjoy pointing out the gun-related errors films make (I really do as well to be honest) and I have no issue with that whatever. In fact, the majority of your criticisms I left alone because I found them to be fully justified. The only comments I made were pertaining to mistakes I thought could justified such as missing at a close distance because the target is concealed or useing a poor grip because the size and location of a target make a hit guaranteed. I know some of the excuses have shaky foundations, but sense I enjoy the film so much I have been grasping at straws to vindicate it. I don't mind your removing them so much as I hope you at least considered what they said first. I will try to stop beating a dead horse and refrain from further commenting on this film, however I am not entirely sure I can restrain myself. ;)
:-Anonymous

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, I did notice you were using the template on the Actors pages it looks good with the info all cleaned up. I will note down about the boxed template and see what everyone else says. That's a good idea of your to clean up the Test page so everyone can use it for cut and paste. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

That does look good with the boxes on the [[Daniel Roebuck]] page. We'll have to see what the others say on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey John, My newest entry I have posted at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]] you might like it also.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Weeds Desert Eagle ==

Are you sure that it is a .44 Magnum. I own one and it is what I originally had listed but reading up I found that it was a .357. I will double check.

== RE:Frackyou ==
I saw on the Mail Call discussion page and was wondering what was the Taunting User Name? Oh and P.S. I hate little F***ers who do that to. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Twilight actors ==
WTF? Why do we have Actor pages for them didn't use any guns? Who even pu them up their? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==Deleted Article Question==
As an administrator I was hoping you could answer a question I had regarding some deleted articles. I noticed recently that the Television pages for ''American Dad'', ''Family Guy'', and ''The Simpsons'' had all been deleted. This seemed logical as animated programs such as these may not provide detailed enough images of firearms to definitively say what weapons the images were supposed to represent making these pages rather out of place on this website. However I noticed that the article for ''[[King of the Hill]]'' still exists which has better animation quality, yet still seems to have some of the issues as other animated pages. In addition, there are many other articles mostly on older video games and some animated works that have these problems. Why is it some questionable articles are deleted while others remain? I am not complaining about the decisions made, I am just curious about the process that leads to an articles deletion.
:-Anonymous

== True Lies ==

Thanks, and sure. I don't know why the widescreen for that movie is like that, same thing happens to [[Armageddon]], and [[Broken Arrow]]. If you can get better screenshots, then sure, go for it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Public Enemies ==

Fantastic new caps from ''[[Public Enemies]]''! I'm definitely going for the first day it comes out, I'm a huge Mann fan as well (since you said it, I figure it won't sound as bad if I did haha) and I did a report on Dillinger in 7th grade and I've been fascinated with all that since then. I sure hope my teachers weren't worried about me after that :-/ Anyway, especially good call identifying the .38 Super M1911A1 machine pistol that Dillinger used. I'm really glad Mann used that, as neither of the other Dillinger films I've seen had it! If only there was a way we could share duties capping that when it's out on DVD. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 04:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:Haha, thanks I appreciate it! I'm sure I'll get a ton of good shots but you always add so much to the pages that as I'm putting them on, you'll have valuable input to help. I'll be watching both the 1945 and 1973 Dillinger movies the night before, I guess to try and make it my own kind of marathon? Had you seen either, I definitely recommend the '73 version especially with Warren Oates and the great John Milius directing it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::One book that does a great job is the ''Public Enemies'' book written by Bryan Burroughs, it covers Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, and the Barker-Karpis Gang. Really a very interesting book with a ton of stuff if you're looking to check some of the accuracy of the movie. I read the script actually (a few months ago so it'd still be pretty fresh) and I think they took a few liberties with ''who'' was involved with the gang and when they were captured/died/etc., but with things like that it might progress the story in their favor to have it play out a different way. I'm just glad that PE will be featuring a wide variety of guns as well. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Also, happy birthday! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Vacancy ==

Thanks for all corrections to the page. I use to put the Screencaps in that way because first I showing good the main actor with the weapon and then the others. But I have no problem to applied the caps in a different way.

== CODWAW ==
Finally done! Tell me what you think. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==Ad Question==
I noticed the wide variety of new advertisers on this site. I am slightly confused over some of the new sponsers. While many of the ads are not surprising, I have seen ads promoting cosmetics and high-heeled shoes. Are these people unaware of the demographic this site caters to or are the ads simply generated randomly.
:-Anonymous

== RE: New profile picture ==
Quite the badass GM! Don't let anybody tell you akimbo isn't cool. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, if Hugo Weaving is coming at you, it's a good idea to throw out as much lead as you can, eh?
::I'm just yankin' your chain man! ;) --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Anytime you get a bunch of young guys in a group, their IQ goes way down. I've found myself doing dumb things(thankfully not with firearms) while in groups. Good luck with that! --[[Special:Contributions/75.175.64.56|75.175.64.56]] 18:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday ==

Hey GM45, just wanted to say Happy Birthday, I hope you're enjoying it and got everything you wanted. Thanks for your work on AvP by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on [[Gran Torino]], it is a good movie. Awesome work on [[Freddy vs. Jason]] too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
For your help on the Goldeneye/BDA/BDM thing.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's already been done-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I saw that, I edited the BDA pictures back to 600, but they got changed. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::oh yeah, i have a good sized moniter, but those jsut they appear too large.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Don't touch the SEALS page==
I have the screencaps that were left over from the first pass. I just haven't put them on yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Tightrope==
Hey John, I am checking to see if you have the Eastwood movie Tightrope. Let me know as I my need a screencap off of it. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 04:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I will PM you over on the forum for the answer. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: What did you think? ==

First off, I loved it. I feel like Mann really put a lot into this one (as well as the cast/crew, etc., giving credit where it's due of course) but I was incredibly impressed. I feel like they had done extensive research and used that to make the story so good. Like you said, the creative license with Nelson/Floyd/killings during Michigan City jailbreak/etc. may have been wrong but I feel like it did help to move the story forward for viewers not quite as knowledgable to the rest story as people like us ;)

Mann also proved that just because a movie takes place in the 1930s doesn't mean you only need to have 1911s and Thompsons. I noticed a bunch of the guns you had, such as the 1903A3s. I didn't get as good a look at the Winchesters, like the one used to wound Dillinger (I think the guy who wounded him in real life was John Shipley but I don't quite recall. I think the Sioux City bank robbery in the film was a mix of Dillinger's three 1934 bank robberies after his escape). I noticed a lot of revolvers, like the Colts you mentioned. I think I saw some with Smith & Wesson grips at one point but I can't remember when it was. I'm sure I'll go again to see it at some point this weekend so I'll be more eagle-eyed. Although I had especially noticed the shot of the Thompson during the Racine robbery and thought "that'd be GREAT for imfdb!" as well as a bunch of other shots. Amazing what this website does for the movie-watching experience haha

I was trying to do some shot-counting but it became difficult for me to sometimes discern who was shooting. But I agree; Bale looked steel-eyed when he was firing his 1911 at Nelson (also I noticed he kicked what looked like a nickel 1911 out of Pretty Boy Floyd's hand; I heard/read that the only nickel 1911s around during that era were the ones chambered in .38 Super. Do you know if this is true?)

Anyway I hope you enjoyed it, I know I certainly did. My friends were a bit confused by who the characters were exactly (which I could understand, Mann went right into the story!) but I was blown away! Another good (but long!) book to pick up if you have the time is a book called DILLINGER by William J. Helmer I believe. It goes very indepth into the story. The last couple summers my friends and I have been working on making our own ''Pretty Boy Floyd'' film but now it's gonna be pretty tough to avoid copying almost directly from PE! Hope I didn't ramble too much here - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

:Now that would be impressive! What all would you need to convert one to resemble, if not operate, like the one Dillinger had? Also I was just remembering the early scene in which Dillinger disassembled the Thompson - do you happen to recall if they showed Depp doing it himself or if they cut to just a set of hands? I'm just curious as to whether or not he had done it himself; Mann seems to make sure his actors are well trained with firearms (notably Cruise in ''[[Collateral]]'' of course). Also, I just found this interesting message board thread while browsing imdb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/board/flat/141781630. Covers a bunch of the accuracy things we were talking about. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Public Enemies==
Hey John, Lets see if I can fill in some of the gaps on this. I restore the weapons for Gibbons Ltd used by John Depp and weapons were also supplied by ISS.
* Johnny Depp's Colt 1911A1's were chambered for .45 ACP blanks they represented the real Dillinger's Colt 38 Supers. As of this time there are no 38 Super weapons or blanks in the industry.
* 1928A1 Thompsons the way we have them listed in everything is an error that I have yet figured out how to resolve. The weapons on the show are whats called a 1928 which is the same externally as a 1921 the difference is internal with a heavier actuator to reduce the cyclic rate of the weapon. The horizontal forends were offered on both 1921 and 1921 models of the Thompson. The 1928A1 is a World War II Thompson that had several shortcut in it to increase production during the war and were built by Savage and Auto Ordnance. The first short cut was no more commercial finish on the weapon then the fins were left of the barrel, The rear sight was changed to stamped L shape and not Cutt's comp was the final mod before production switch to the M1. Also if you notice when I have done pages with a Thompson in it the title is Colt 1921A or 1921 AC. The A is for a Thompson without a Cutt's compensator on it and AC is with a Cutt's. For the show there were Colt 1921's (Same weapon from Indy IV) with 1928 internals, 1928A1's refinished to look like a 1921 (Polished Blued finish) and there were some Thompson hybrids that were built by for the show.
*1903 Colt Pocket Hammer was sent to the production it is unknown if it was used or it was used and the scene was cut.
*Revolvers I know that both the Colt Detectives and Colt Official Police were shipped on the show. I will see if I can help out on the on Saturday when I see the film.
*38 Super Machine Pistol used in the movie was chambered in 9mm blank as 38 Super is not carried by the industry. The weapons was built by ISS for the film.
*BAR these were supplied by Gibbons Ltd and were modified in the Bonny & Clyde configuration by another gunsmith for Gibbons Ltd.

:Hope the answered some of your question by as all things it probably created more. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::John,

::I'm pretty sure that the 1903 Colt Pocket was the gun that Dillinger used for about the last third of the film, in place of the 1911 he had carried earlier. It's the gun he takes with him to the theater and then tries to draw before he gets killed by Purvis and the other agents. I have no idea how accurate this is in real life.

::If some of the guns (including the machine pistol) were supplied by ISS, I might be able to ask my contact at ISS if he can tell me more about that gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Depp had the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammer in the Tucson hotel scene. It was brief as Depp sets it down on the table and you can see the tab for the mag catch. But would need to see it on DVD to be sure. Did see a whole was full of Colt Official Police in the Crown Point jail vault. Also the machine gun out side of Crown Point was a Colt Model 1928 Light Machine Gun. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Oops, sorry, I mis-read what you wrote. But I will e-mail ISS and ask. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

==Hard to kill==

::John,

::I got a question to ask. Do you have ''[[Hard to kill]]'' on DVD? If you do, say so. -[[User:speedfilmltd]]

== FC2 SVD ==

By the looks of things it's a bit of both; the forend has twin holes halfway up like the FPK, but it's shaped like the SVD's and the exposed part of the gas piston is smaller like the SVD's, too; other SVD features are things like the cheek pad, the kink in the fire mode switch as opposed to the AK-like switch on the FPK, and so on. Though the weirdest feature the FC2 SVD has is a duckbill three-point flash suppressor like it's an early M16. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

*Actually, I don't think humour in articles is really a bad thing even for a wiki: [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Humor this] is a good summary of why. Indeed, I think the Payback article is how all our articles should be; describing how the weapons are shown as well as which ones they are is far more informative and fits in with this Wiki's overall principle of educating readers about firearms in movies. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== sound effects ==

Hey I was just wondering if you knew of a good website from which I could download some good firing sound effects for a movie I'm doing/editing. Preferably there would be sounds for a Thompson (with the higher ROF on the earlier models) and a .44-40 Winchester, as well as pistols. I had considered trying to get some sounds from Youtube but they didn't sound crisp enough when I added them to the film. No big deal, but I was just curious if you knew of anything. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re: The Shadow==
Hey John, Thanks for the nice words. The Shadow was my first film working in the Industry so it has a special place in my heart. Those custom built Grizzlies were the loudest pistol I have ever tested. I am going to call the owner of them next week and see if I can get a photo of them for IMFDB. I am uploading a special photo tomorrow I know you will like. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 07:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:The Grizzlies in 45 Win Mag were loud with hearing protection on. The Thompsons used on the set started out as Colt 1921's when Tim Curry was firing them but when we switched to the bridge scene the flash did not appear on camera. The cyclic rate on a 1921 was to just fast enough to not show completely on film so we went to the Colt 1928 Thompson we had on hand and the Colt 1921 became a backup. Also on the bridge scene the actor that fired the Thompson tossed away a Smith & Wesson M&P Snub Nose. On the pistols for the head on shot I would have to check and see if I have the paperwork for those. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Forrest Gump ==
Do it. You're much better than me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Mask 1911 ==
This is true, the only real difference is those cocking serrations. To me it has more features common to the CGNM. Most noticeably is the sight rib, with is a part of the slide. I have yet to see this on any other colt variant with the exception of the AMT Hardballer. It is possible that it's a custom series 70, but it's also a possibility that it's an older custom GCNM.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Well I do not know for sure. I have yet to find information on the older (pre series -70). In the mean time, I think the best thing to do, would be to call it a Custom Match Grade Series '70 Colt, because everything on there lends credence to it being a Match grade firearm. I will look for older models though. What do you think? btw, is it just me or does the second picture look like a commander sized gun? The distance from muzzle to the tip of the frame seems too short for a standard. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:Hey John, I agree with that it is not a Gold Cup National Match. Those sights look like a Millet copy of the Novak. The markings on the slide appears to be a Mark IV Series 70 Government Model. So I believe it's a Colt Mark IV Series 70 Government Model with Millet sights. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:::Yeah after some reasearch this is not the NM as I had thought. That D*** sight rib threw me off, never seen another Colt with that, and the markings are a Series 70 (or later) and no series 70 NM had straight serrations. I somewhat think this was a Colt custom shop gun. Sorry, you were right man. But if you change it back please make note it has been customized to hell. Lol, for what was probably paid for the custom job, that gun;s owner probably could have just bought a NM-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:::: Oh that's nice, but don't tell me that, to me a Gold Cup is the epitome of a Colt, and I hate seeing their part's scattered. Granted mine has different grips and grip safety but I didn't do that to it. And Thanks.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

==Layout Format==
Hey John, Go ahead and try it out to see what everyone thinks. It can be changed back by changing a number. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

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'''Note: Please sign your name when adding to this discussion page so I don't have to sift through the page history to know who I'm talking to. I suggest adding a hyphen ( - ) and then typing in three ~ symbols to show your username (four if you wish to display the time as well). Also, I'm a tad OCD about this, but if you add a new post, put it at the ''bottom'' of the discussion page, so I have some form of chronological order here. Thanks.''' - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Future Weapons==
Hey GM, why don't we try to do Future Weapons together?
==Helicopter in The Marine==
Hey GM,
That helicopter image you posted in "The Marine" under the acetaline M61 Vulcan was origionally from the scene in Rambo III where Traughman gets captured. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glocks==
Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==Wanted==
Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to [[Quantum of Solace]] go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.
==Quantum of Solace==
Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.

==Dirty Harry==

Just so you know, [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

==1911==

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.

:Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do ''so'' much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?

::It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.

::Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in ''[[Training Day]]'' and ''[[The Departed]]'' don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

==New stuff==

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the [[AK-47]] page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

:I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.

::Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?

:My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.

::OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".

: "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

== Your articles ==

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the ''[[Heat]]'' page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for ''[[Hollow Point]]'' or ''[[Last Action Hero]]'', but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.

:As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

== Current stuff ==

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your ''[[Hollow Point]]'' page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in ''[[The Fugitive]]''.

As far as the grenade launcher in ''[[Hollow Point]]'', it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.

::You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the [[Hollow Point]] page.

I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

==Heat==

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

::It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to ''you''.

::Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.

::From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.

:::So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.

::::All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.

::::Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on ''[[The Rock]]'' page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

==Defense Technologies==

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

[[Image:Federallabs37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (''[[RoboCop 3]]'' is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

== Great Work! ==

Thanks for uploading the poster for the [[Catch a Fire]] page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Response ==

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then [[Bad Boys II]], and it's MoviePropMaster2008's [[District B13]] with 37 guns. [[User: Alienqueen11]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the [[Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem]] page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on [[Toy Soldiers]]. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== About Language ==

Hey, I want to say good work on [[Heartbreak Ridge]], there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, [[User: Bunni|Bunni]], the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

:OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from ''Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels''), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

== MGS4 M1911A1 ==

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgnpNaJ6M0]

There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== .50 Caliber 1911? ==

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

[[Image:M1.50GI.jpg]]

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

== Nice work on Platoon ==

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)==
..''"how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?" ''
: I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

..''"I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."''
:Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

..''"Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."''
: I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

..''"Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."''
: The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.

::''Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better.'' -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Last Action Hero==
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

== Nice job ==

Hey, nice job on the [[Jurassic Park]] page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put [[A Beautiful Mind]] on your Pages Built list. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Re: Nice Job ==

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. [[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==M1911 shots by MPM2008==
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Uzi ==

About the [[Uzi]] page, you might want to leave a note on [[User: Bunni|Bunni's]] talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== Training Day Revolver ==

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes.
Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
[[Image:SW19SN.jpg]]

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.

==Call of Duty 4 Pictures==

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

:Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?'

hey i'm new here and i don't know how to get to my user page and didn't someone think the mini uzi was a ruger mp9? please help me get on a user page!!! [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Srry, when i signed my name i just followed the red link. i didn't think that would happen. by the way, how come i made madness combat pages and they were deleted? they told me no flash, but i don't get what they have against flash.

Can i put flash pics on my user page at least? drjuki

== Re: Saving Private Ryan ==

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).

:Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.

::I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.

:::The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

==Good call on the xXx==
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329774/]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

==Dibbs==
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

== About the screencaps on COD4. ==

How did get them? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re:XXX==

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on ''[[Kelly's Heroes‎]]''. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on ''[[Where Eagles Dare]]''.

==On Kelly's Heroes==
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

==M1911s==
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Are you sure? ==

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

::What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

==Reign of Fire==
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008

==577 pic==
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

== The Punisher ==

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on [[Hard Boiled]] because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The [[Sin City]] talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== ''Tears of the Sun'' ==

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Re:Tybalts Gun==

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

==Ak recog==
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Jarhead'' M60E3 ==

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the [[M60 machine gun]], it has always had two [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240 machine gun]]s; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The [[Browning M2]] heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==animated gifs==
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.

[[Image:HEAT M4 shorty Shootout.gif]]
MPM2008

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Reign of Fire==
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008

==...==

Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008

::Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.

::BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008

== Jaws ==

Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping [[Jaws]]? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Top Pages ==

Very cool idea - nice work. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping [[Four Brothers]], and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]], so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Jaws]] is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==thanks==

Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:

[[Image:MyP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.

Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.

:As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...

:BTW, very nice job on the ''[[Last Man Standing]]'' page! Though I would recommend maybe being a ''little'' less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==crap==
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==Empty Pages I Created==
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. [[User:CyclopsScott|CyclopsScott]] 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==Western guns==
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==Hotel Rwanda==
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== The World Is Not Enough (video game) ==

Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough

I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.

edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.

==FYI==
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Walther P99 page ==

hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page

i'm still learning how to edit. apologies

edit: appreciate it :)

==Hollowpoint==
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.

== American Gangster page ==

Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.

==the subject of "dibbs"==
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.

There you go, I cut the black bars off the [[Hostage]] screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on [[Hot Fuzz]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==fun gun==
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FG42 1st pattern rifle - 7.92mm]]
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Excellent work!! ==

Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!

==Movies to screengrab==
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.

==Remington 870==
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Morita Rifle==
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Bangkok Dangerous==
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==tropic thunder==
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==590==
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==You're not gonna believe this==
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==On some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Smokin' Aces ==

Hey GM45, do you by any chance have [[Smokin' Aces]]? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==New screencaps==
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Workload==
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:U.S. Marshals==

Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== anonymous users ==

It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Molotovs==
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==.PNG Images==

Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.

==Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics==
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Late model Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and transitional rear sight (same as M1 first model)]]

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== the other Glock ==
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.

==Alien Nation==
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ''Jingle All the Way'' ==

Thanks for the compliments on ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== The Dark Knight ==

I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do [[The Dark Knight]], you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

::I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.
[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Got it for you==
Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:H&K94Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|HK94 converted into a full auto gun with chopped barrel - 9mm]]

==T2==
I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)

BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.

Check this out: :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FNC semi auto imported rifle - marked FNC 223 REM SPORTER on the receiver - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps on Commando==
I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape. ==

You can do it.I don´t mind.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen ==
Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68

== Re: Scarface ==

I'll try to get more shots for [[Scarface]] when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on [[Mail Call]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.6.6.30]

This made me really pissed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==

I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a ''severe'' warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313

==24==

Will you be around today to screen cap [[24]] Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on [[24]]. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on [[24]] the page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Lord of War==

Eh, depends. Main question is, how ''many'' additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the ''[[Lord of War]]'' page is one of the site's most popular.

::I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Tyrannasaurus ==

It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Godfather ==

Thanks, ''[[The Godfather]]'' is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: The Departed==

Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.

Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on ''[[Get Smart]]''! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), ''and'' I got two days off from work, ''and'' I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.

:Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Good suggestions! ==

Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of ''[[The Getaway (1972)]]'' so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: The Untouchables ==

Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Mail Call ==

Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.

Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.

I made some edits to it but they got erased. Why? I'm still working on screencapping yet, i didn't have enough time to add gun pics and you didn't add them. P.S When will you be getting season 3-8? [[User:Drjuki]]

Oh, ok. I thought you ment don't add any seasons since you were going to do that. I didn't know you were going to through the earlier seasons. You know who. Drjuki.

== The Untouchables ==

Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.

== XXX ==

Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in [[Armageddon]], [[XXX]] and [[Death Race]]. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from [[We Were Soldiers]] that we had two miniguns mount on.

== Video Games ==

Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.

== Iron Man CAR15 ==

In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M60E1 machine gun ==

I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M1 Garand question ==

I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the '''M60''', I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)
[[Image:M60SnapShotOnSet.jpg]]
:Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM

==Re:Hitman==

Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==

Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances.
[[User: Charon68]]

==Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...
[[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by "Ace Hanlon" ([[Lance Henriksen]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' .45 LC. This is the actual live firing screen gun used by Lance Henriksen.]]
[[Image:Remington1875Q&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The custom engraved Remington 1875 used by John Herod ([[Gene Hackman]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This it the ACTUAL revolver used by Hackman in the Saloon sequence.]]
[[Image:Remington1875SilverQ&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|This it the Custom All silver Remington 1875 used by 'The Kid' ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This is the actual revolver handled by DiCaprio in the Gun Store scene!.]]

Like it? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I got more, but they're not western related ==
I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....

[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kimber Custom TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free and Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Replacing some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Your page format==
I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==SOCOM Mk 23==
The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Hitman==

It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.

Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gunner313 ==

Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Iron Giant'' ==

I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shoot 'Em Up.==

Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.

- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==push==
Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Legends of the Fall ==

Hi, I congratulate you for you work!
Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film?
Sorry for my bad english.

== Legends of the Fall (again) ==

Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.

== shotgun in Thunderball ==

Hey I just posted screenshots from ''[[Thunderball]]'' and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a [[Remington 870]]) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Tanks for your answer ==

Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.

==SIG==

Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for ''Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft'' (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Rundown==
Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are '''not''' what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also '''replace''' any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Blank revolver question==
My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shit==

I just did an edit on ''[[The Rundown]]'' while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Norinco SKS Sporter==
Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.

==Blank revolvers==
Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM

==The Rundown==
BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shootemup==
I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Legends of the Fall==
I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.

==Street Kings==

Hey,

I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the ''[[Street Kings]]'' page. And I literally just mean a few:

*(1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
*(2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
*(3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.

Would that be OK?

Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect.
--[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.

:Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates ([[Common]]) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

==Unforgiven Shotgun==

Hi

The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, Check out the photo of the W. Richards that I just posted. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Dust hit gun==
It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM

==Review on Wanted==
You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. '''Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. ''' I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that '''Darth Vader is Luke's father''', some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==watermark==
excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
'''Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1'''
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== some Westerns ==

Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for ''[[The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford]]'' and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on ''[[American Outlaws]]'' which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: Boondock Saints==

Dude, armory scenes in movies ''always'' suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' or ''[[The Matrix]]''. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an ''extremely'' regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.

As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - ''[[Menace II Society]]'' and ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1897==

Hey John

I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Appaloosa==
Hey John
Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.
:No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix==
Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little ''''squished''''. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)

[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-DEa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-Cheetah2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-CheetahA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Admins==
FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008
::Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM

== Speakeasy804 ==

I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Need your help here==
Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....

[[Image:MMS-Twin-Silenced-Pistolsa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]
[[Image:MMS-TwinSilencedPistols2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]

Here are the candidates that people suggested:
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkCamperSS.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmark2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk II - Silenced]]
[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk III silenced - note the slight changes from the Mark II]]

What do you think? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
::When I saw this, I felt like a kid in some kind of store - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith==
Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".
[[Image:MMS-QuoteCorrect.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The Correct quote - what John Smith says after blowing up the shack.]]
Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

==Colt 25?==
I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Re: Sgt. York ==
Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==MM Smith Unknown 1911 Variant==
Hey John, I believe the 1911 shown is a Mile High Armory custom built 45 pistol. I also looks like a left hand 1911 as I can not see the slide stop or thumb safety on the side with the ejection port like a Randall left handed 1911. Check out http://www.milehigharmory.com they have a photo of a Randell. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Check under portfolio for the photos of their work. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Pages Lock Out==
Hey John, I know when you are completely done with a page some of the Mod's lock them out. I figure that way no one can mess with their Pet. But why lock out the actors pages associated with that show? The actors associated with [[The Wild Geese]] can not be accessed to add information and other shows since they worked more than one show. I thought the whole purpose of this wiki is to get the most complete information on the Show,Actor and Weapon possible. Please help out on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== 1911's and other models. ==

Thanks for your message. Very nice. Don't worry about how some cops might think you're a smart ass. We all tend to be that way when it comes to teenagers.Teenagers and cops are like oil and water. But usually once we see that you're on the level we tend to change our tone.Take me for example. I'm an '''old''' cop. At 41 I tend to come across as an old grouchy fart to kids, but I do warm up.

I grew up in a 1911 household. My father was also a cop as well as a Vietnam veteran. Though he carried the S&W Model 28 and later the S&W Model 65 as his sidearms he was (is) all about 1911's. At one point he owned ''seven'' of them. He's now down to a 1911A1, Colt Commander and a Colt Officers Model.

Even though I appreciate what John Browning accomplished with the 1911, and aknowledge it's strengths (i.e. it's excellent grip), I've just never taken a liking to it. When it comes to autos I prefer the "classic" Sig design, Glock and Beretta. I'm also fond of the Browning Hi-Power so Mr. Browning's pistol designs do have some influence with me.

However I'm a big fan of revolvers. I own many many wheelguns. Smith & Wessons make up the bulk of my collection, but there are a couple Colts and a [[Webley Mk VI]] - which is my pride and joy.

I've been a gun-nut almost all of my life so you are not unusual at your age. I'm a firearms instructor at my department as well. Combine my interest of firearms with my love of movies and many of my fellow officers look at me like I'm some type of whacko. But whne they have a question about guns, movies or need help improving their pistol score guess who they come looking for?

Talk to you later. [[Jcordell]]

Oh one more thing. I downloaded an image of a [[Savage 99]] rifle. I even figured out how to create a page, but how do I get the image to show up on the page? I have a link but no photo. Help me out partner. Please. [[Jcordell]]

== Thanks for your help ==

Appreciate it. HAve to help us old guys out now and again. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]
Ah - ha! Got it.

The lever action rifle dosen't deliver the same type of accuracy as a bolt action. But it's fast and easy for lefties (like me) to use with ease. Plus there is the historical signifance.

== Winchester Model 1895 ==

I live in Idaho. Last summer Imade it down to Provo, Utah and went to the Browning museum. Also went and saw the old Browning shop. I mentioned that I don't really care for the 1911. But I do enjoy the Hi-Power and I'm a big fan of the Winchester 1895. I own one in 30-06. One of the new ones made back in 1996. I also own an 1897 riot-gun which I'm fond of. So I understand your fondess of Browning guns. Take care. Keep on working.

I've done what I could for Dirty Harry and Outlaw Josey Wales pages but I'm sure you'll improve them.[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== My job here ==

Yeah, you're right about my "act" here. I've been a little sloppy lately and I will finish doing the rest of some of the pages like my first few. Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Black Lagoon are pages I really need to do since they were my first pages. I'll make a note to finish those pages and put links on them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Colt Troopers. ==

Will do. I didn't know that. Thanks.

==Colt Mustang==
The Colt Mustang (a .380 pistol) is on the M1911 page. I don't think it belongs there. All those other models are in .45 acp (or they have other calibers as well as 45 ACP), but essentially they are .45 guns. I was going to pull the Colt mustang and create a page for the Mustang/Pony since they are both subcompact Colt guns in .380. What do you think? MPM20008

==S&W MkII Hand Ejector==
Hey John, I think this and the S&W M1917 has the same info they both the same N frames different calibers. Maybe they should be combined into a S&W Pre-War N Frame or the M1917 info transferred to the S&W MkII Hand Ejector. The same goes for the Colt M1917 as it is a Colt New Service in .45 ACP. Just thought you should know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the green handgun, with the way actors treat guns sometimes, one can only imagine.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

==orphaned image==
What is this from? It's not linked to any page.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:45-110Sharps.jpg
MPM2008

==Bergmann MP18==
Hey John. In the Gun section we have a duplicate listing the Bergmann MP18 which is fine and the MP18. They both have the same info and photo figure that you can get rid of one. Thanks. Steve

== ''CSI: Miami'' S&W Semi-Auto ID ==

I don't think the pistol shown on ''[[CSI: Miami]]'' is a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5946|S&W 5946]]. If you look at the screenshot versus the photo on the gun's page, you can see the gun in the screenshot has a decocker safety on the right side of the slide while the one in the photo does not. The [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4046|Smith & Wesson 4046]] does have a right-handed safety though. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

==In the Line of Fire Llama==
Hey John, Just to give you a heads up the Llama used In The Line of Fire is a Llama IIIA in .380 caliber. The weapons on the show were supplied by Ellis Mercantile. Also I might have a photo of the prop double for the composite pistol. The firing model was cut into three pieces after the movie was filmed. Thanks Steve

==XM16E1==

Hey John, I edited one of MPM's photo hope he doesn't mind to much but his photos are awesome. I worked on get those rifles ready for We Were Soldiers a couple of month prior to filming. It's amazing the research we did on all the weapons from that battle reconfigured our XM16E1 back to 1965. We even built the correct AK's for Vietnam since everyone else always used stamped receiverd AK. When the show was done everyone though we were wrong until you look and the combat photos and we were correct. Most critics completely missed that we only had two of the correct model Huey's. Steve

==Idea for New Page==
Hey John, I had an idea for a new page just on blank cartridges. Maybe we can ask MPM about getting some photos or I can get some myself when I go back to the armory after wrap. Thanks Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. (for the record, YOU ALWAYS gave me credit and it was appreciated. Besides, I always ended up photographing the real deal as a result). Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

== M4 vs. M4A1 ==

The original M4 did NOT have a removable carry handle, it had a fixed one with 3-round burst. The original M4 was pretty much an M16A2's upper & lower recievers with a telescoping stock and 14.5" barrel with cuts for mounting the M203 ahead of the front sight assembly. It was the later M4A1 that featured the flat-top upper/full auto lower reciever assemblies. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

The very earliest Type 56s, which were made 1956-1963, were built with milled receivers. The Poly Tech Legend is something completely different - it's a semi-auto copy of the original AK-47 designed for the civilian market in the 1980s. It looks almost identical to the original Russian AK-47 (visually, they're pretty much impossible to tell apart) and does not have the full-circle front sight of the Type 56. The receiver style has nothing to do with it. There were Type 56s which had milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:No worries. Also, I addressed your debate with Orca on the M4/M4A1 on his talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Young Guns ==

Great job with ''[[Young Guns]]''! I especially liked the inclusion of the picture of the real Billy the Kid holding his Winchester compared to the photo of Estevez in the film. Nice added historical bit - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:You were definitely right about the picture, the more I look at it the more I wonder if there wasn't ''something'' they could've done to make it look a little more accurate. Thanks for the compliment about the Bond films (they're favorites) and good luck with the ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' films and all - Clint will be proud once he sees the work you've done! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:: Nice job on Young Guns including the photo of the real Billy the Kid. I don't know if you knew this fact about that photo is that the plate was reversed. The load gate on the Winchester is on the wrong side where as the Emilio Estevez photo is on the correct side.

==RE: RoboCop 2==

Thanks! I actually think it's a cool concept, but for Hob, it's the perfect weapon. It goes with his whole tactic of taking advantage of his age. "Officer reporting: It's just some kid carrying a blue lunchbox. No way he shot those dudes."

Sorry to hear you're sick, but have fun doing the "Dirty Harry" movies. Oh, and I had no idea that Eastwood's gun in the first one was a Model 25. That's news to me, but it does make perfect sense, for the reasons you explained. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== re: Nice Work ==

Thanks for the compliments! Feel free to make any adjustments with the Model B on ''The Untouchables'' page, I had neglected to think about that when I made the page, assuming Costner was using all M1911A1s and only that one henchman had a Star. Looking back, I can see I was wrong but I didn't get enough angles in enough scenes to discern when Costner had a Model B. I appreciate the help with that!
Also, I'll peruse ''The Godfather'' sometime very soon and get a shot of the M1A1, just for completion's sake.
On a different note, great job with the first ''Dirty Harry''. Those pages have been in dire need of a fix-up and you're certainly doing justice to those great movies! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also, I recall maybe a few weeks ago you had asked about ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' - I just fixed it up tonight in case you're interested/have any input - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have ''Casino Royale'' so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get ''Quantum of Solace'' pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is ''Never Say Never Again'' which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with ''Magnum Force'' as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:::I never saw ''Flashpoint'' but the caps we have from it make it look pretty entertaining. Also, I saw ''Magnum Force'' is done - looks great! I should have a bunch more DVDs coming in this week so I'll try and get back on my game. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle ==
Gunmaster,
Could you please mearge this page with the Short Action Lee Enfield page as the Enfield Enforcer is just a 7.62 NATO version of the WW2 Lee Enfield Sniper varient.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman==
Hi John, Nice to be back after working on location. I notice this page list as new the tile is misspelled and the format is not correct. Could you fix this as it does not look right being misspelled. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== KAC SR-25 ==

If you read the paragraph at the top of the [[Knight's Armament SR-25]] page, you'll see that the M110 is the designation of the SR-25 given by the U.S. Army. Aside from the name and some other minor differences, they're virtually identical weapons. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hello other-young-gun-nut ==

I finally have an account here now, I've been working on the site for about a year as an AU. Some of the pages I've helped create inclue CSI miami which I pretty much built up from the ground, and The Island, Constantine, and LA Confidential. Dude, we NEED to do HOUSE MD!--[[User:GlocksRevilACP|GlocksRevilACP]] 04:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Beretta 9000S==
You da man! I figured your EAGLE EYES would catch which beretta model Jane's gun was...! :) MPM2008

== Dirty Harry Series Re-vamp ==

If you're the one who has been re-vamping the Diry Harry movies, thank you so much. It was really weak at first and you made it WAY better. I hope you re-vamp ''Sudden Impact'' and ''The Dead Pool'' as well because they are pretty weak.

== Hostage Molotovs ==

While I understand that you worked on this page (and, I must admit, you did a damn good job on it), please remember that this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs aren't firearms. Sorry.

:That seems fair enough. Thank you for at least taking the time to talk to me, instead of just throwing a ban on me for a "first offense" so to speak (a few other administrators tend to overreact). I understand now. Thanks.

==Colt 1903 new page==
Hey John, There is a new Colt 1903 page that needs to be removed as it is a duplicate of the Colt Model 1903/1908 page we already have. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT Pistols page==
Awesome work on the AMT page. It's been needed. Have you been talking to Rockwolf? Anyway, it's been sorely needed, but this was the best compromise possible since these guns were 'automags' in name only. Unfortunately there are VERY few of these types of guns in movie weapons rental inventory. No one ever wanted them. MPM2008
:: Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. ''"No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!"'' So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That would make sense, since changing the name to one word rather than two words was the way AMT tried to legally differentiate themselves from AMC. Unfortunately TONS of literature and sources on the net screw it up and name the AMT guns with Auto Mag versus Automag. And vice versa. It's your page. It's up to you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Last crusade==
Thanks. I screencapped ALL of the Indy films but I have to resize them and fix them for uploading. I sure hope no one starts doing it before I'm done. I hope some of the other users don't mind i replaced their shots, but some of the screenshots are pretty blurry or just not really clear. I don't know how it looks on your monitor, but I think my screenshots are clearer (take some of the other indy films for instance, except for the obvious "Production stills"). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redacted==
For the record, I am offended that this title is on here and would sooner see it deleted. I am going to request to the other admins that it be deleted. It is an insult to all Veterans (myself included). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC) And if Bowling for Columbine ever shows up here, it's gone.

::Edit, sorry I'm not picking on you. I just didn't want you to go through the trouble of screencapping that film. I figured all the younger members of IMFDB aren't as tuned into the feelings of American Veterans. MPM

==Thanks for the reply==
But I would argue its a lot easier to hold an absolutely 'neutral' attitude when one has no 'dog in the fight' per se. Having served some time in service I have such a disdain for that work that I must admit I get really angry when I see it. Perhaps in years to come, like the people who suffered on 9/11 may be able to stomach "watching a movie where Americans are the bad guys and the hijackers are the heroes", I may be able to stomach trash like DePalma's piece of crap. There are tons of more worthy films that have not been listed yet. We are so far away from being the all encompassing film database like IMDB that if we get closer to listing EVERYTHING, then we would be obligated to list even the most despicable listings. I would argue that it is controversial right now (perhaps not so much later on), but there is little upside to keeping it. Again thanks for your honest discourse. Always a pleasure. MPM2008

==addendum==
Yeah, I probably would feel better if we had a disclaimer that we don't support the film but list it for purely informational purposes so that IMFDB doesn't end up offending vets or families of vets who come here. I think that is the biggest concern for me. Anyway, thanks again for the note. Now that we're getting controversial, I might as well start listing the guns for "Triumph of the Will" ;) hahahah. thanks again. MPM2008

== Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]] ==

You're right about the model used by Tyne Daley in [[The Enforcer]]. It does look like a Python snubbie, but I still think Felton Perry is using a Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]]. It looks like it has a smaller frame which would match the Diamondback. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

Great. thanks. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: LaFrance Specialties M16K Question==
Hey John, Tim LaFrance made the M16K with both types of upper receivers. I am trying to nail down how many variations of the M16K there are. I have what looks like four variation maybe five. But the one in your photos are M16K. Hope this helps. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I just uploaded a photo of the M16K with Forward Assist that you can use. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

I've used a .45 version of the M-16K in my personal fiction but I don't think that one has appeared on film yet. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==VIP==
Thanks. I work hard on the Screenshots to make them look better. And as you've pointed out, I like bad cinema and tv. re: Model 36 pic. I don't want it to seem that I was in any way yelling at you when I reverted that image. That picture bothers me now. It was a project gun of a gunsmith and I checked the frame and it was definitely marked 36-2 (I take detailed notes when I take photographs of guns) and I'm no Smith & wesson expert, but the details LOOK like the more modern revolvers. Should I delete the image? The front sight and cylinder latch 'could' have been updated with newer parts. I hate having pics like this which 'could' be custom and not indicative of a standard model. Thoughts? MPM2008

==VIP gun help==
I have some pics in the 'to be sorted' section of the VIP page. Two shots of a suppressed pistol and one hard to see shot of an LAPD detective's revolver. Since you're the eagle eye on the site, do you have any ideas? Thanks. MPM2008

== Diamondback or Python ==

Hey, I know you just finished re-vamping ''[[The Enforcer]]'', so I figure you'd be able to help. I'm not so sure that Insp. Moore is using a Colt Python. It's possible, but it looks more like the Diamondback that Insp. Perry used in the previous movie, ''[[Magnum Force]]''. What do you think? [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

Well for what it's worth I think that Tyne Daley is carrying a Colt Python "snubbie" in ''[[The Enforcer]]''. It looks to be the right size since the Diamondback is built on the same frame as the Colt Detective Special while the Python was built on the old 41 frame - a bigger frame. Also the hammer's spur on the revolver carried by Tyne Daley looks like a Python hammer instead of the Diamondback. But I do believe that Felton Perry was carrying a Diamondback in ''[[Magnum Force]]''. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Outlaw Josey Wales ==

Nice work. One of my favorite movies and the original page bothered me. It's looking very good. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==What the hell happened with In The Line of Fire?==

Your pictures and information show up on the history pages, but when you click on the main link, it shows the page as it was before you touched it. WTF? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 23:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

==Collateral==
Hey John, Matt had asked me that same question so I talked to the other armorer on set Larry. Larry confirmed it was a two-tone Jericho 941 Blued slide and a hard chrome receiver. I was working with the SWAT guys for the night club scene and Larry handled the stunt guy which is who had that weapon. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:John, It looks like the first photo is the two-tone Jericho 941 and photos two and three are the two-tone EAA Witness as those are different stuntmen. I would try and get some paperwork as backup but those were Gibbons Ltd gun and they have been sold to ISS.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, I have an ID for that other pistol on Collateral for you. I Talked to Larry who was the General Manager of Gibbons Ltd and the armorer on Collateral. He looked up the paperwork on the show and said they were the Sphinx AT 2000 made in Switzerland. I have found the photo and will add shortly. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:: John, That's a lot of movies for the weekend can't wait to see them. I am working on the following
* ''[[Miracle at St. Anna]]'' filling out the page
* ''[[Bullets or Ballots]]''
* ''[[Warbirds]]'' A bad SciFi Channel Movie.
* ''[[Lady Gangster]]''

Screencaps are finished on those movies just working on the layouts.

==Winchester 1892==
John, Sorry about the upload of the 94. I deleted the 92 thinking it was the 94 I will have to see my friend to take the photo again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Category:Flare Pistol==
Hey John, Could you please delete this category I made this one by mistake. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks for the assist. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I appreciate the weapons I missed. That's the eagle eyes I expect. BUT .... I'm not at all happy with MORE shots of the guns I already have. You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion regarding the number of screenshots for a movie page. You like to have WAY more than I like to have per weapon and though it really irritates me, I don't do anything to your pages. I do get annoyed when you add gun pics to the sections where I already have pics. I certainly cannot trim down the screenshots on pages that you make, though on pages like LMS I sure would like to delete about HALF of the screenshots, Why should I have to accept something which I fundamentally disagree with ... on my own pages? MPM

==Seecamp==
Are you answering the question I asked MT2008? re: the Seecamp 32 in Die Hard with a Vengeance? or are you ID'ing the pistol that Pamerla Andersen has in the bathtub in V.I.P.? Also I have some guns I can't ID on the Bionic Woman page, so I'd ask the EAGLE EYE if you have the time MPM2008

==RE:==

Well, I see you're already doing it anyway. :) But yeah, it's cool if you want to upload more. Just don't go ''too'' crazy. Also, you should go ahead and separate the AK variants. When I did this page originally, IMFDB wasn't in the habit of distinguishing the Norinco Type 56s from the AK-47 or AKM, so go ahead and separate the first section into the different variants. Also, it seems a lot of the Type 56-1s in the movie have the AKM-style receiver cover and grip. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, you can replace all my old ones if you wish. They're somewhat lower-res than yours. Also, did you see the nickel-plated AK on the wall of Yuri's weapons container? The one with the forward grip? That's this gun: http://weaponspecialists.com/view-prop.php?id=160&name=AK47-Stainless It was originally made for the movie ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

:Sounds good. It looks WAY better, plus it has lots of guns that I missed. Also, I think there may be an AR-7 variant in Yuri's gun container (it's visible in the same screencap as the ''[[Belly]]'' AK). I have a few more comments on the page, but I'll wait until you're done before I make them to avoid edit conflicts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bourne Identity (1988) ==

Hey, thanks for the quick help with some of the guns in the original Bourne Identity. Before I change the Makarov entry, you said it was actually a CZ-82. Is each gun used a CZ-82 or just ones in certain scenes? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I don't think we have an entry yet on those, do you know any other movies they were in? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Interesting, learn something new everyday. I'll link it to the CZ-83 page with an explanation on the picture that's a commercial version of the military pistol. And of course, thanks for the help! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Hey John, I see that you added the blued Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 back to the Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 page. Just to let you know the the revolver was never issued blued it was issued in a bare metal finish only. That was the reason I uploaded the correct image over MPM's. Just letting you know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I agree with keeping the original finish, but here's a thought ..., if some armorer somewhere, at sometime decided to BLUE his gun and it appeared in any film (I'm not saying it has) but if it did, we would be benefited from having a blued version, even though it would technically be some gunsmith's aftermarket conversion. Just at thought. But the revolver WAS issued only "in the white" historically... :) MPM2008

==Did you take this picture?==
I was going to replace it with a licensed shot I shot myself of the same pistol but I wouldn't if you were the original photographer of this shot. Thanks. MPM2008
http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/S%26W25.jpg

== Help ==

How do i take picures and add them to the website like the pink panther 1 which i seen alot of guns. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S R U AND ADMIN OR A SYSOP? [[User:Drjuki]]

Srry i'm asking alot of questions i'm kinda new here, anyway do you know of the game endless war? if you do would it be considered a flash animation? and also who created this site? thanks. [[User:drjuki]]

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Redirecting ==

How do you properly do Redirects without losing the history of the page it was before? Because everytime I do it, I mess up somehow. I tried redirecting to The Hills Have Eyes to Hills Have Eyes (2006), The, but got a red link, so I a filled in the blank page, and the somehow, the original name to the the pages still remains in the recent changes list. Thanks for any help.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'll remember to use move instead, some anonymus user created the page before I tried redirecting it. I know I haven't done any work in a long time, once in awhile I'll find a movie I want to screencap, right now I'm thinking about uploading some extra shots for [[I Am Legend]]. Btw, good job on you most recent pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I found a few good shots in the movie that were missed, although I'm not completely comfortable about replacing someone else's screengrabs, so I might put some screenshots on the talk page for anyone who's more comfortable with replacing them. Also, I've seen Ctone's blog too, and he does a great job, especially with his screenshots. I think I might get started screencapping now since I have alot of free time. Thanks for the Redirect btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I got so far, and I'll be uploading more tomorrow as well. If you have any suggestions for screenshots, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

==Madness Combat==
Does anyone where i could post a madness combat page, i have like tewlve pages filled with guns and I HAVE TO POST THEM!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Drjuki]]

No i know i can't post them here, i was just wondering if you knew a site where i could. [[User:Drjuki]]

== I Am Legend ==

Sure, I'll get pictures when I put the DVD in.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Call of duty 2 ==

Hey i don't plan these i just add pics if it needsem or add text if it needs em. I don't even have half the games i edit on here. [[User:Drjuki]]

Yes I was. [[User:Drjuki]]

== RE: COD4(DS) ==
Beacause I've seen some site that listed them. IMFDB Isn't the only site that has weapons in Anime, Movies, TV, And Video Games you know. Sure it's the best one but, you know there are some sites. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S The reason I don't write very well is because I am not used to writing without spellcheck, and grammer check. [[User:Drjuki]]

That is a good I will do that. [[User:Drjuki]]

== Pictures ==

I have a question, if there was a movie where a guy got his head blown off but he had a gun in his hand, would users be allowed to take that pic and other gruesome images? [[User:Drjuki]]

Would you be able to tell me a list of pages that have those? Not all them but just the ones you know. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

== Contact Info? ==

Hey GM45, I was wondering, do you have any instant messenger programs or the like? I'd like to chat with you off-site if possible. You can send your contacts to the email address listed on my userpage if you'd prefer to keep from getting spammed. Hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey um, i have a website that has a chatroom on it it's kinda a failed project it's not done yet, if so how's may 9th 3:30?
heres the link http://charlietheunicornstuff.synthasite.com/

You know what f**k that [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

==Re:Appaloosa==
Hey John, Glade you like the film I enjoyed it. Most armories will not give credit to the designer or build for fear they client will go direct to the designer next time around. I only have one armory that tells everyone what I build for them. I will work on those 8 Gauge photos this weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Not sure who did the sound for the show. They most likely re-recorded all the gunfire as they plan to make a second movie. That way the will have their own sound library for the next show.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Appaloosa screencaps. ==

Looking forward to your screencaps. It's a great movie and the page has been needing some help. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. Probably one of the best westerns I've seen in years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:Hey John, Nice work on the [[Appaloosa]] page. I am going though the build photos for the [[SK 1878 shotgun]] now and hope to post late tonight the photos and some background with them. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

== When we're gone... ==
What are we going to do when are syops and admins start leaving? When we die, (not literally but not go here anymore) what will happen? Will we appoint new ones? (P.S I've helped out every call of duty page, so thats 10 pages!) Or will we just shut down this site? Will we start making pages for Halo and gears of war when lasers come out? Drjuki.

== Flash ==

Could we make a seperate IMFDB for just flash? We could call it IFFDB (Internet Flash Firearms DataBase)? Drjuki.

==Can You use this anywhere?==
[[Image:TaurusPT92-2tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Taurus PT92 Two Tone - 9mm]]
Another MPM 2008 Image.... ;) MPM2008

==More for your Shootem up page==
[[Image:TaurusPT92AF-Reverse2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Reverse Two Tone Taurus PT92AF - 9mm]]
The arm has a reverse two tone gun like this one. I think this image can help. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

==blanks==
I am super busy today, but I am going to look at one of our Hollywood blank and perhaps take a pic of how the cardboard wad is constructed and send it off. regards. MPM2008

== Deadwood ==

Hey GM, I just screencapped the first season of ''[[Deadwood]]''. Since you're a pro with that time period, I was wondering if you'd be able to give it a look at all if you have a chance just to check to see if I've been getting things right? Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 21:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry about my late response, I've been busy between work and finishing the Deadwood page. It's all done now so I'll go through looking for errors and discrepancies, etc., etc. I appreciate your information added about the S&W Models 1 and 2, which I'll try to sort out once I can find good gun pictures for each to use. In response to grouping the SAAs together, I would do so (as I normally do) but since I took a large number of screencaps, I decided it would be at least a semi-logical way to split it up. The ''[[Joe Kidd]]'' page looks great of course; very interesting to see a C96 used in a Western (although it's a shame they used the typical Hollywood bottomless magazine!) Finally, I'm very impressed by "Gladys" your 1911! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taken==
Go ahead, John. I was planning on going to get it, but a shitload of work just came my way. Happy hunting. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

==Joe Kidd==
Hey John, Looking over the Joe Kidd page you built looks nice. I believe that the Colt 1877 Lightning you show in the capture is a Colt 1878 Double Action in 45 Long Colt. Also the Lightning photo you posted in the Lightning page for Kill Bill is a Cimarron Lightning Single Action. If thats the case does that go in the Single Action Army page like the Uberti's? -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, You are correct I would only add strange Uberti, Hartford and others that were used like the Hartford Model Sheriff and Pinkerton that we used in the Streets of Laredo. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Admin ==
Hey how many pages do you have to edit or make to become a admin? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Matrix: Revolutions ==
Hey, I didn't know whether to put this here or on the Matrix page, but I'll put it both places.
I'd kind of like to do M:R but I saw that you had it down on your to do list. It's yours if you want it, but you might have bigger stuff on your plate. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 05:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, go ahead! --[[Special:Contributions/207.108.206.237|207.108.206.237]] 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: your guns ==
I'd never taken a look at your firearm collection before, but did today. You have some awesome stuff. Being a sucker for 1911's I really like Gladys, and the "Spanish Llama XV" guns. This is really not a post of any real value, but damn. Those are amazing.
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Eastwood's page ==

Would you have a problem if I began organizing some of the larger actor pages, such as Eastwood's, chronologically and by film to make them easier? I'd leave the same photos and everything but I just feel the pages should be in some sort of order. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 23:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Desert Eagle Love ==

Thanks, and yes, I know that it is a pretty impractical weapon (don't rub it in), but a few folks I know just like that weapon. I'm just a big fan of large caliber weapons, and I'm just one of those few who just, well you know. Anyways, I'm honored to have become a user on this site. P.S. Thanks for the pointer!
- [[User:500Magnum]]

==I owe you an apology on the Model 60==
Well, today I saw the owner of the Model 36 in satin nickel and he said 'that's not in satin nickel. I was talking about another gun. That's stainless', WTF? That's not what I remembered, but oh well. I popped it open and it is still marked Model 36, so I queried more about why it was marked Model 36-2 and he 'forgot' to mention that it was a factory missmark and thus was collectible. So my tirade about the Model 60 being a custom Model 36 seems a bit unnecessary. I showed him the IMFDB site and he basically concurred, there is nothing about that gun that makes it different from a Model 60 other than the weird factory model stamping which no one can see. I'm no S&W expert, but he set me straight and pointed out that I was wrong to complain about others naming it a 'model 60' when for all intents and purposes, it looks just like one. So I owe you an apology regarding the Model 36/Model 60. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== I like your pictures ==

I'd also like to comment on your pictures, and I think those are pretty good. You must have worked hard to get them.
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
What I meant to say was your screencaps were good; excuse me. - [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

== New IMFDB? ==
This is hyothetical, say there were some movies I liked and I wanted just them on a site. So I make a website with let's say the matrix. now let's say I copied and pasted descriptions and copied pics from imfdb. Would I be able to do that if I say that I got them from Imfdb.org? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 22:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok That wasn't hypothetical, I'd already done it and wanted to make sure I could keep it. Don't worry. I deleted it. no more. I hope you don't sue me for everything i've got. (P.S. I'm only 10 so that won't work very well.) (P.S.S. Why won't you shoot the nambu?

== I am Legend ==

I got the last screenshots for I Am Legend up, and sorry for the really long delay. how does it look now?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and no problem, I'm glad those templates are gone too, I don't understand why Dragon would even use them when they looked bad, plus we never needed them anyway, I mean it's not that hard to make a simple phrase at the top of each page. About the forum, I signed up for it a few months ago, but I lost my password, I'll be sure to sign up for it again eventually since it appears to be really active. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Pineapple Express ==

Thanks for warning me about the widescreen bars. It took a while, but I removed all of the bars on each of the caps I saved. Tommorrow, I'll replace the ones I aleready posted, and continue my work on the page. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep this in mind for my future postings.
--[[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 12:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Comments in Articles ==
I have relocated several comments of yours from the body of the article to the discussion page. All signed comments should be posted in the discussion page. Otherwise, great work, keep it up. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 20:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandals ==
What would you do if some one erased mail call. Like they made a account just to vandalise. and if i put sucks on Twilight, would it count as vandalism? P.S can you tell me when you're done with mail call? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't you think you got it when you're done with mail call, could you tell me that you're done on my talk page? (P.S. I've looked at my contributions and i've made 545 edits! sadly none of them are screencaps, so I can't be a admin yet :( and hey I made a spongbob page (for fun) and I can't beleve how fast it dissapeared! could you tell me who and what happened to it? and hey how old were you when you got made an admin and when you joined?) (P.S.S. The reason I didn't make any screencaps is that my dad won't show me the program that we have because he doesn't like guns and sorry I'm asking so many questions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Help with Identifying Guns ==
hi, I was talking to a friend and he said that he saw 2 unusual weapons on CSI, i was wondering if you could tell me whether or not they were real

the first was a gun that, somehow was able to shoot 2 rounds into the same wound whilst only clicking the trigger once. (sorry if its quite vague); and the other was a gun that was known on CSI:Miami as the "Vapouriser", in the show it turned a person into a mist of blood.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 22:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== thanks man ==

thanks for the help man, a said to my friend I thought that the "vapouriser" wasnt real, but he was adamant about it.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== "Gladys" ==
: That is one nice 1911 you have there.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Last Boy Scout Page==
I read on page ''The Last Boy Scout'' that you want to restore it. I had not noticed that your message and I have already prepared all the screencaps and some information (work at 50%). Can I prepare that page or want it you? Or you want my screencaps and you write the description because I spoke bad English? [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
::I think that your work will certainly be better than mine. I asked you just to know what was your job. If you're ready to upload good work! ^_^ - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Mail Call ==

I know you don't listen to me and use this to make the score bigger, but counting the REPEATS of weapons already establish. The Garand, the M16 repeats at least 3 times and you counted them into the score. That's just stupid. It's like if I take the 4 seasons of the Unit an counted 1 for every time I see a firearm, even though I have already established that we do see it from season 1. I put down M4s, but I don't do it 4 different times because this rifle has appeared in all the seasons, I just put images of how the rifle looks from each season under the M4 category. I label each section, handguns, SMGs, rifles, etc and put weapons under each regardless of the seasons they've appeared in. The format you've done for Mail Call makes it very messy and kind confusing and VERY unnecessarily LONG. I'm not dissing your efforts, I just think you over did it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

==Commando Tranquilizer Pistol==
Hey John, I noticed on another blog the Bennett had a tranquilizer pistol pointed and Matrix. Do you have a screen capture on this. I would pull it but I don't have the movie. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey John, Thanks for getting that screen cap later it was just miss identified as a Crossman Air Pistol. I figured that I would fix that little error. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Last Boy Scout Page ==

I have some screencps of various weapons that you haven't published in the page. Can I add them or you're still working on the project? I do not want to ruin your work. If you want I can show them before posting. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:I asked you only because I thought you had finished to post all the images. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Deadliest Warrior ==

Can you ID the Colt Revolver on my [[Deadliest Warrior]] page? Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Deleted article ==

Why did you delete the article for Perfect Dark? Was there something wrong with it I should know about? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Taps ==

Was limited in my resources when I first created the page. Thanks for not wiping out my contributions all together (which has happened before)and excellent work on the caps [[ User:Charon68|Charon68]]

==sorry==
I am sorry if you had issues with my categorizing the firearms lists of various pages. I only did so becaues I found it to be more organized on longer articles than the simple listing method used on shorter pages. I agree with you that since I did not write the original article I have no right to completely alter its format. I am sorry I did so and will cease making these changes in the future.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I just recieved your message thanking me for my cooperation. I had no idea that the one undoing all of my changes was the articles original author (I probably should have checked though) and had I been aware would have desisted immediatly. A simple message would have been enough to make me aware of my mistake, therefore the ultimatum included in your first message was both unnecessary and unappreciated. In the future if you could alert me to my mistakes without the use of threats I would be appreciative. I apologize if a sound angry at all (I'm not, nor do bear you any grudge) I was just slightly offended by the manner in which you told me stop changing page format.
:-Anonymous

== Help for new idiot... ==

Gunmaster45,

I saw your edits to a page (Thief) I created. I am very new, so forgive my indiscretions and errors in protocol. I was wondering if it would be possible to explain how to generate the table of contents present on each page. This is the boxed heading at the top of each page showing each gun and when clicked, takes you directly to each section (gun). I wasn't sure if posting this question here is proper, but I haven't found the help area that explains this action.

Thanks for your help in editing, and I have to say your work is excellent and I will strive to emulate your talent here on this site. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the help, Gunmaster45! I appreciate your fast response. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

::Your suggestions for screencap editing are welcome. I will strive to adhere to the protocols in the future. I was using a poor, non-widescreen version for the screencaps. I have the WS DVD on order and will try to capture next week. If you decide to screencap similar scenes in the meantime, have at it! Thanks for the help. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 06:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

==Picture Assistance==
I have been contributing to this website for a long time and have written several articles and provided additions to many others. However, while I identify gun use in my pages and include pictures of the firearms (taken from other articles on this site) I have never been able to figure out how to upload pictures to this site from outside sources. Any instruction you can provide on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. My computer skills are mediocre to say the least, therefore I would be greatful if you could make the instructions as simple as possible.
:-Anonymous

==Thank You==
I followed your instructions on how to post images from outside sources and found them both easy to comprehend and effective. Thank you for showing me how to do this so that I can greatly improve my articles.
:-Anonymous

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix Screencap==
I noted on the Matrix discussion page that I was conducting a test and had realized that the existing screencaps are distorted, but the image is exactly the same as yours (the exact frame actually). Nothing on the page has changed, other than the fact that it was not uploaded by you. When people change pages, they're actually CHANGING the page, i.e. making the content different. I will only replace screenshots if they're distorted or crap. Yours were not crap, but I noticed that they seemed stretched upwards and I conducted a test to verify that. MPM2008

== Crossfire Trail ==
That would be great. It's a good western made in the older Hollywood style. It was directed by Simon Wincer who also directed [[Lonesome Dove]] I just bought a brand new Dell computer which will allow me to do screencaps, but right now I'm busy with household stuff and it's still sitting in it's box along with the 20" Hi-def screen --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Did a little research through my ''American Rifleman'' back-issues. Found some useful info about the guns used by [[Tom Selleck]] in his many westerns in the May 2002 issue.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Quigley Down Under ==

All it says is that there were three Shilo Sharps No. 3 rifles in 45-110 manufactured for him to use in the movie. It's my understanding that one of the rifles was donated to the NRA museum by Selleck.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
That's what I figured. Oh by the way I picked up a Luger a few weeks ago. Manufactured in 1916 at the Erfurt goverment arsenal. Shoots like a champ.Here is a so-so picture I took.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There it is. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Luger One.JPG|thumb|350px|none]]

== Cool Guns ==

I've long considered the Luger P08, Mauser C96 Broomhandle, and the Webley Mk VI revolver to be "cool" handguns. Oh sure there are better handguns out there and certainly more modern handguns, but that itn't the point. Since I was your age (really) I have wanted an example of those three handguns. I now own a Webley Mk VI and a Luger. Perhaps one of these days I'll get a Broomhandle. We'll see. Your dad has a nice Luger there by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your dad has the C96 carbine? Partner you absolutely have to get a photo of that sucker posted. Lucky S.O.B. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==I see you replaced my pic==
And it wouldn't be so bad if your pic was better, but it's not. The contrast ratio is still 'muddy' and color saturation is still weaker. I thought you were more mature than this. I guess I was wrong. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==my apologies==
Like usual, you have a good (and mature beyond your years) explanation for your actions. I apologize. I must keep remembering that you are not like 99% of the guys .. ON the internet ... most of whom are petty. I see so much pettiness on the net that I sometimes forget that this is not the case everyone. THANKS for the explanation. And again, I apologize :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==The Matrix Reloaded==

I see you're re-vamping the page. Well and done, and good work so far. But I beg of you...please try and limit yourself to 5 screencaps per gun? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:What I would recommend if you have shots that look cool but you've reached the limit is to post them on the discussion page for other people to look at. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Call of duty ==

Hey i found some pics that i could use to TOTALLY revamp COD2, COD4, COD5, and soon MW2. If you could Ok it that would be great. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 00:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey i hope you saw COD2 took me all night. P.S. i'm done with COD4 it's awesome, and tommorow i'll work on COD4 (DS), and COD5. P.S.S. great job on The Matrix Revolutions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Screencap assisstance==
I am a little confused on what it is necessary to obtain sceencaps. I am under the impression that specific software is required inorder to play movies in a manner so that screencaps be taken. If that is the case where can this software be obtained.
:-Anonymous

==Payback edit mistake==
I recently viewed the changes you made to the ''[[Payback]]'' article. While I agree completely with your eliminating the Smith & Wesson model 29 and 28 sections and replacing them with one section on the model 27, I noticed that you got rid of the section on the Beretta 92 Porter uses akimbo with his 27. This weapon was definitely present in the film therefore I am confused as to why you omitted it. I have not changed this myself for fear I might accidentally undo some addition or correction.
:-Anonymous

==Commentary==
I always love your commentary, GM. -protoAuthor

==Payback response==
I contacted you immediately after noticing the omission. I checked the article shortly after finishing my message and noticed the change but did not have time to negate my comment before you responded.
:-Anonymous

==Payback again==
I noticed that you eliminated the section on the Smith & Wesson model 38. I am not necessarily disputing your actions I just don't entirely understand it because it looked like the gun was used based on the screencaps that were included.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
Sorry
:-Anonymous

==New Template==
Concerning the new template used to categorize information on recent actor articles, I was wondering whether existing articles would be retroactively changed to fit the new format or if it will be required on future pages.
:-Anonymous

== Payback Page ==

I know that the pages I do are horrible and very bad and I have no objection if someone restores this works, I'm even glad of it, but it was nice to be informed before the repubblication that 8 hours of my work are destroyed. Good job anyway. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:If you've forgotten to advice me it means that there is no problem. I misunderstood your action. It's all ok. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Gran Torino ==

Hey GM45, Great work on Payback, it looks awesome. I also would like to know when you plan on screencapping [[Gran Torino]]? Because it's a good movie and I'm looking forward to seeing it's page completed. I'm not trying to rush you or anything, I'm just curious.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Birthday ==
Your birthday is on the 27th? Mine is on the 30th! It is quite funny how they are so close together.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
I am sorry I made such amateur mistake, considering how similar the two guns are in most aspects I did not think that such a crucial difference existed. You were certainly in the right to remove my comment and I greatly appreciate your explaining the reason to me. On another subject, I was curious if you could get back to me on the Template question I posted 4 sections above.
:-Anonymous

==Template Comment==
Actually, I rather don't care for the new template. I looked at the text in the editing and saw that it is extremely complicated to create. In addition, while the new system presents more information in a more organized fashion, I find it less aesthetically pleasing that the older, simpler format. While I have no problem with the new template being used, I contacted you because I was hoping that contributors who prefer could still create articles using the older format.
:-Anonymous

==Template==
I understand that people will use the new template and have no problem with that. However, I am worried that it will be retroactivly applied to existing articles whether or not article's contributors approve.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Per the anonymous user's comment, (since I can't reply to him) The template only applies to ACTOR pages and Gun pages. No one user has ownership of an Actor page or gun page. Users have 'some' rights over MOVIE/TELEVISION/ANIME/VG pages that they have worked hard on, but that's only a courtesy. If something is horrendously wrong, like a new user creates a hideous page, they have no right to keep a stupid page (like the guy who put 'The Ring'' as a page, WTF?). MPM2008

== Another opinion on new template ==
I don't like it. And personally I don't think I'm going to use it on pages I start. Guess that's me just being an old asshole. sorry. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you're right. Just being muleheaded.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy early Birthday ==

Thanks GM, I was just wondering, Happy birthday in advance by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

==Payback yet again==
I noticed you removed all of my responses on the ''[[Payback]]'' page to your comments about mistakes the characters or filmmakers made. I realize that my comments made the text about the images rather lengthy and I apologize if they made you feel that I was being overly critical of you, but the reason I wrote them was because ''Payback'' is one of my favorite films and I felt the need to defend it when any justification could be made for its errors. I do not intend to replace my comments, however, deleting them while entirely disregarding the arguments they presented (my Walther-Bersa feature mistake excepted) seems a little discourteous. Once again I am sorry for giving you so much grief over this page the last couple of weeks, but as I stated this is one of my favorite films and I just wanted to see it done justice.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I realize you enjoy pointing out the gun-related errors films make (I really do as well to be honest) and I have no issue with that whatever. In fact, the majority of your criticisms I left alone because I found them to be fully justified. The only comments I made were pertaining to mistakes I thought could justified such as missing at a close distance because the target is concealed or useing a poor grip because the size and location of a target make a hit guaranteed. I know some of the excuses have shaky foundations, but sense I enjoy the film so much I have been grasping at straws to vindicate it. I don't mind your removing them so much as I hope you at least considered what they said first. I will try to stop beating a dead horse and refrain from further commenting on this film, however I am not entirely sure I can restrain myself. ;)
:-Anonymous

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, I did notice you were using the template on the Actors pages it looks good with the info all cleaned up. I will note down about the boxed template and see what everyone else says. That's a good idea of your to clean up the Test page so everyone can use it for cut and paste. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

That does look good with the boxes on the [[Daniel Roebuck]] page. We'll have to see what the others say on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey John, My newest entry I have posted at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]] you might like it also.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Weeds Desert Eagle ==

Are you sure that it is a .44 Magnum. I own one and it is what I originally had listed but reading up I found that it was a .357. I will double check.

== RE:Frackyou ==
I saw on the Mail Call discussion page and was wondering what was the Taunting User Name? Oh and P.S. I hate little F***ers who do that to. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Twilight actors ==
WTF? Why do we have Actor pages for them didn't use any guns? Who even pu them up their? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==Deleted Article Question==
As an administrator I was hoping you could answer a question I had regarding some deleted articles. I noticed recently that the Television pages for ''American Dad'', ''Family Guy'', and ''The Simpsons'' had all been deleted. This seemed logical as animated programs such as these may not provide detailed enough images of firearms to definitively say what weapons the images were supposed to represent making these pages rather out of place on this website. However I noticed that the article for ''[[King of the Hill]]'' still exists which has better animation quality, yet still seems to have some of the issues as other animated pages. In addition, there are many other articles mostly on older video games and some animated works that have these problems. Why is it some questionable articles are deleted while others remain? I am not complaining about the decisions made, I am just curious about the process that leads to an articles deletion.
:-Anonymous

== True Lies ==

Thanks, and sure. I don't know why the widescreen for that movie is like that, same thing happens to [[Armageddon]], and [[Broken Arrow]]. If you can get better screenshots, then sure, go for it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Public Enemies ==

Fantastic new caps from ''[[Public Enemies]]''! I'm definitely going for the first day it comes out, I'm a huge Mann fan as well (since you said it, I figure it won't sound as bad if I did haha) and I did a report on Dillinger in 7th grade and I've been fascinated with all that since then. I sure hope my teachers weren't worried about me after that :-/ Anyway, especially good call identifying the .38 Super M1911A1 machine pistol that Dillinger used. I'm really glad Mann used that, as neither of the other Dillinger films I've seen had it! If only there was a way we could share duties capping that when it's out on DVD. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 04:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:Haha, thanks I appreciate it! I'm sure I'll get a ton of good shots but you always add so much to the pages that as I'm putting them on, you'll have valuable input to help. I'll be watching both the 1945 and 1973 Dillinger movies the night before, I guess to try and make it my own kind of marathon? Had you seen either, I definitely recommend the '73 version especially with Warren Oates and the great John Milius directing it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::One book that does a great job is the ''Public Enemies'' book written by Bryan Burroughs, it covers Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, and the Barker-Karpis Gang. Really a very interesting book with a ton of stuff if you're looking to check some of the accuracy of the movie. I read the script actually (a few months ago so it'd still be pretty fresh) and I think they took a few liberties with ''who'' was involved with the gang and when they were captured/died/etc., but with things like that it might progress the story in their favor to have it play out a different way. I'm just glad that PE will be featuring a wide variety of guns as well. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Also, happy birthday! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Vacancy ==

Thanks for all corrections to the page. I use to put the Screencaps in that way because first I showing good the main actor with the weapon and then the others. But I have no problem to applied the caps in a different way.

== CODWAW ==
Finally done! Tell me what you think. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==Ad Question==
I noticed the wide variety of new advertisers on this site. I am slightly confused over some of the new sponsers. While many of the ads are not surprising, I have seen ads promoting cosmetics and high-heeled shoes. Are these people unaware of the demographic this site caters to or are the ads simply generated randomly.
:-Anonymous

== RE: New profile picture ==
Quite the badass GM! Don't let anybody tell you akimbo isn't cool. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, if Hugo Weaving is coming at you, it's a good idea to throw out as much lead as you can, eh?
::I'm just yankin' your chain man! ;) --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Anytime you get a bunch of young guys in a group, their IQ goes way down. I've found myself doing dumb things(thankfully not with firearms) while in groups. Good luck with that! --[[Special:Contributions/75.175.64.56|75.175.64.56]] 18:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday ==

Hey GM45, just wanted to say Happy Birthday, I hope you're enjoying it and got everything you wanted. Thanks for your work on AvP by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on [[Gran Torino]], it is a good movie. Awesome work on [[Freddy vs. Jason]] too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
For your help on the Goldeneye/BDA/BDM thing.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's already been done-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I saw that, I edited the BDA pictures back to 600, but they got changed. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::oh yeah, i have a good sized moniter, but those jsut they appear too large.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Don't touch the SEALS page==
I have the screencaps that were left over from the first pass. I just haven't put them on yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Tightrope==
Hey John, I am checking to see if you have the Eastwood movie Tightrope. Let me know as I my need a screencap off of it. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 04:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I will PM you over on the forum for the answer. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: What did you think? ==

First off, I loved it. I feel like Mann really put a lot into this one (as well as the cast/crew, etc., giving credit where it's due of course) but I was incredibly impressed. I feel like they had done extensive research and used that to make the story so good. Like you said, the creative license with Nelson/Floyd/killings during Michigan City jailbreak/etc. may have been wrong but I feel like it did help to move the story forward for viewers not quite as knowledgable to the rest story as people like us ;)

Mann also proved that just because a movie takes place in the 1930s doesn't mean you only need to have 1911s and Thompsons. I noticed a bunch of the guns you had, such as the 1903A3s. I didn't get as good a look at the Winchesters, like the one used to wound Dillinger (I think the guy who wounded him in real life was John Shipley but I don't quite recall. I think the Sioux City bank robbery in the film was a mix of Dillinger's three 1934 bank robberies after his escape). I noticed a lot of revolvers, like the Colts you mentioned. I think I saw some with Smith & Wesson grips at one point but I can't remember when it was. I'm sure I'll go again to see it at some point this weekend so I'll be more eagle-eyed. Although I had especially noticed the shot of the Thompson during the Racine robbery and thought "that'd be GREAT for imfdb!" as well as a bunch of other shots. Amazing what this website does for the movie-watching experience haha

I was trying to do some shot-counting but it became difficult for me to sometimes discern who was shooting. But I agree; Bale looked steel-eyed when he was firing his 1911 at Nelson (also I noticed he kicked what looked like a nickel 1911 out of Pretty Boy Floyd's hand; I heard/read that the only nickel 1911s around during that era were the ones chambered in .38 Super. Do you know if this is true?)

Anyway I hope you enjoyed it, I know I certainly did. My friends were a bit confused by who the characters were exactly (which I could understand, Mann went right into the story!) but I was blown away! Another good (but long!) book to pick up if you have the time is a book called DILLINGER by William J. Helmer I believe. It goes very indepth into the story. The last couple summers my friends and I have been working on making our own ''Pretty Boy Floyd'' film but now it's gonna be pretty tough to avoid copying almost directly from PE! Hope I didn't ramble too much here - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

:Now that would be impressive! What all would you need to convert one to resemble, if not operate, like the one Dillinger had? Also I was just remembering the early scene in which Dillinger disassembled the Thompson - do you happen to recall if they showed Depp doing it himself or if they cut to just a set of hands? I'm just curious as to whether or not he had done it himself; Mann seems to make sure his actors are well trained with firearms (notably Cruise in ''[[Collateral]]'' of course). Also, I just found this interesting message board thread while browsing imdb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/board/flat/141781630. Covers a bunch of the accuracy things we were talking about. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Public Enemies==
Hey John, Lets see if I can fill in some of the gaps on this. I restore the weapons for Gibbons Ltd used by John Depp and weapons were also supplied by ISS.
* Johnny Depp's Colt 1911A1's were chambered for .45 ACP blanks they represented the real Dillinger's Colt 38 Supers. As of this time there are no 38 Super weapons or blanks in the industry.
* 1928A1 Thompsons the way we have them listed in everything is an error that I have yet figured out how to resolve. The weapons on the show are whats called a 1928 which is the same externally as a 1921 the difference is internal with a heavier actuator to reduce the cyclic rate of the weapon. The horizontal forends were offered on both 1921 and 1921 models of the Thompson. The 1928A1 is a World War II Thompson that had several shortcut in it to increase production during the war and were built by Savage and Auto Ordnance. The first short cut was no more commercial finish on the weapon then the fins were left of the barrel, The rear sight was changed to stamped L shape and not Cutt's comp was the final mod before production switch to the M1. Also if you notice when I have done pages with a Thompson in it the title is Colt 1921A or 1921 AC. The A is for a Thompson without a Cutt's compensator on it and AC is with a Cutt's. For the show there were Colt 1921's (Same weapon from Indy IV) with 1928 internals, 1928A1's refinished to look like a 1921 (Polished Blued finish) and there were some Thompson hybrids that were built by for the show.
*1903 Colt Pocket Hammer was sent to the production it is unknown if it was used or it was used and the scene was cut.
*Revolvers I know that both the Colt Detectives and Colt Official Police were shipped on the show. I will see if I can help out on the on Saturday when I see the film.
*38 Super Machine Pistol used in the movie was chambered in 9mm blank as 38 Super is not carried by the industry. The weapons was built by ISS for the film.
*BAR these were supplied by Gibbons Ltd and were modified in the Bonny & Clyde configuration by another gunsmith for Gibbons Ltd.

:Hope the answered some of your question by as all things it probably created more. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::John,

::I'm pretty sure that the 1903 Colt Pocket was the gun that Dillinger used for about the last third of the film, in place of the 1911 he had carried earlier. It's the gun he takes with him to the theater and then tries to draw before he gets killed by Purvis and the other agents. I have no idea how accurate this is in real life.

::If some of the guns (including the machine pistol) were supplied by ISS, I might be able to ask my contact at ISS if he can tell me more about that gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Depp had the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammer in the Tucson hotel scene. It was brief as Depp sets it down on the table and you can see the tab for the mag catch. But would need to see it on DVD to be sure. Did see a whole was full of Colt Official Police in the Crown Point jail vault. Also the machine gun out side of Crown Point was a Colt Model 1928 Light Machine Gun. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Oops, sorry, I mis-read what you wrote. But I will e-mail ISS and ask. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

==Hard to kill==

::John,

::I got a question to ask. Do you have ''[[Hard to kill]]'' on DVD? If you do, say so. -[[User:speedfilmltd]]

== FC2 SVD ==

By the looks of things it's a bit of both; the forend has twin holes halfway up like the FPK, but it's shaped like the SVD's and the exposed part of the gas piston is smaller like the SVD's, too; other SVD features are things like the cheek pad, the kink in the fire mode switch as opposed to the AK-like switch on the FPK, and so on. Though the weirdest feature the FC2 SVD has is a duckbill three-point flash suppressor like it's an early M16. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

*Actually, I don't think humour in articles is really a bad thing even for a wiki: [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Humor this] is a good summary of why. Indeed, I think the Payback article is how all our articles should be; describing how the weapons are shown as well as which ones they are is far more informative and fits in with this Wiki's overall principle of educating readers about firearms in movies. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== sound effects ==

Hey I was just wondering if you knew of a good website from which I could download some good firing sound effects for a movie I'm doing/editing. Preferably there would be sounds for a Thompson (with the higher ROF on the earlier models) and a .44-40 Winchester, as well as pistols. I had considered trying to get some sounds from Youtube but they didn't sound crisp enough when I added them to the film. No big deal, but I was just curious if you knew of anything. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re: The Shadow==
Hey John, Thanks for the nice words. The Shadow was my first film working in the Industry so it has a special place in my heart. Those custom built Grizzlies were the loudest pistol I have ever tested. I am going to call the owner of them next week and see if I can get a photo of them for IMFDB. I am uploading a special photo tomorrow I know you will like. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 07:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:The Grizzlies in 45 Win Mag were loud with hearing protection on. The Thompsons used on the set started out as Colt 1921's when Tim Curry was firing them but when we switched to the bridge scene the flash did not appear on camera. The cyclic rate on a 1921 was to just fast enough to not show completely on film so we went to the Colt 1928 Thompson we had on hand and the Colt 1921 became a backup. Also on the bridge scene the actor that fired the Thompson tossed away a Smith & Wesson M&P Snub Nose. On the pistols for the head on shot I would have to check and see if I have the paperwork for those. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Forrest Gump ==
Do it. You're much better than me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Mask 1911 ==
This is true, the only real difference is those cocking serrations. To me it has more features common to the CGNM. Most noticeably is the sight rib, with is a part of the slide. I have yet to see this on any other colt variant with the exception of the AMT Hardballer. It is possible that it's a custom series 70, but it's also a possibility that it's an older custom GCNM.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Well I do not know for sure. I have yet to find information on the older (pre series -70). In the mean time, I think the best thing to do, would be to call it a Custom Match Grade Series '70 Colt, because everything on there lends credence to it being a Match grade firearm. I will look for older models though. What do you think? btw, is it just me or does the second picture look like a commander sized gun? The distance from muzzle to the tip of the frame seems too short for a standard. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:Hey John, I agree with that it is not a Gold Cup National Match. Those sights look like a Millet copy of the Novak. The markings on the slide appears to be a Mark IV Series 70 Government Model. So I believe it's a Colt Mark IV Series 70 Government Model with Millet sights. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:::Yeah after some reasearch this is not the NM as I had thought. That D*** sight rib threw me off, never seen another Colt with that, and the markings are a Series 70 (or later) and no series 70 NM had straight serrations. I somewhat think this was a Colt custom shop gun. Sorry, you were right man. But if you change it back please make note it has been customized to hell. Lol, for what was probably paid for the custom job, that gun;s owner probably could have just bought a NM-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

==Layout Format==
Hey John, Go ahead and try it out to see what everyone thinks. It can be changed back by changing a number. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

User talk:Gunmaster45

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'''Note: Please sign your name when adding to this discussion page so I don't have to sift through the page history to know who I'm talking to. I suggest adding a hyphen ( - ) and then typing in three ~ symbols to show your username (four if you wish to display the time as well). Also, I'm a tad OCD about this, but if you add a new post, put it at the ''bottom'' of the discussion page, so I have some form of chronological order here. Thanks.''' - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Future Weapons==
Hey GM, why don't we try to do Future Weapons together?
==Helicopter in The Marine==
Hey GM,
That helicopter image you posted in "The Marine" under the acetaline M61 Vulcan was origionally from the scene in Rambo III where Traughman gets captured. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glocks==
Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==Wanted==
Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to [[Quantum of Solace]] go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.
==Quantum of Solace==
Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.

==Dirty Harry==

Just so you know, [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

==1911==

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.

:Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do ''so'' much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?

::It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.

::Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in ''[[Training Day]]'' and ''[[The Departed]]'' don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

==New stuff==

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the [[AK-47]] page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

:I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.

::Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?

:My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.

::OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".

: "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

== Your articles ==

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the ''[[Heat]]'' page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for ''[[Hollow Point]]'' or ''[[Last Action Hero]]'', but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.

:As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

== Current stuff ==

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your ''[[Hollow Point]]'' page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in ''[[The Fugitive]]''.

As far as the grenade launcher in ''[[Hollow Point]]'', it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.

::You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the [[Hollow Point]] page.

I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

==Heat==

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

::It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to ''you''.

::Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.

::From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.

:::So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.

::::All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.

::::Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on ''[[The Rock]]'' page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

==Defense Technologies==

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

[[Image:Federallabs37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (''[[RoboCop 3]]'' is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

== Great Work! ==

Thanks for uploading the poster for the [[Catch a Fire]] page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Response ==

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then [[Bad Boys II]], and it's MoviePropMaster2008's [[District B13]] with 37 guns. [[User: Alienqueen11]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the [[Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem]] page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on [[Toy Soldiers]]. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== About Language ==

Hey, I want to say good work on [[Heartbreak Ridge]], there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, [[User: Bunni|Bunni]], the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

:OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from ''Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels''), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

== MGS4 M1911A1 ==

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgnpNaJ6M0]

There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== .50 Caliber 1911? ==

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

[[Image:M1.50GI.jpg]]

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

== Nice work on Platoon ==

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)==
..''"how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?" ''
: I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

..''"I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."''
:Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

..''"Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."''
: I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

..''"Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."''
: The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.

::''Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better.'' -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Last Action Hero==
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

== Nice job ==

Hey, nice job on the [[Jurassic Park]] page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put [[A Beautiful Mind]] on your Pages Built list. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Re: Nice Job ==

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. [[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==M1911 shots by MPM2008==
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Uzi ==

About the [[Uzi]] page, you might want to leave a note on [[User: Bunni|Bunni's]] talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== Training Day Revolver ==

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes.
Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
[[Image:SW19SN.jpg]]

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.

==Call of Duty 4 Pictures==

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

:Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?'

hey i'm new here and i don't know how to get to my user page and didn't someone think the mini uzi was a ruger mp9? please help me get on a user page!!! [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Srry, when i signed my name i just followed the red link. i didn't think that would happen. by the way, how come i made madness combat pages and they were deleted? they told me no flash, but i don't get what they have against flash.

Can i put flash pics on my user page at least? drjuki

== Re: Saving Private Ryan ==

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).

:Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.

::I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.

:::The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

==Good call on the xXx==
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329774/]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

==Dibbs==
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

== About the screencaps on COD4. ==

How did get them? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re:XXX==

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on ''[[Kelly's Heroes‎]]''. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on ''[[Where Eagles Dare]]''.

==On Kelly's Heroes==
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

==M1911s==
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Are you sure? ==

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

::What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

==Reign of Fire==
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008

==577 pic==
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

== The Punisher ==

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on [[Hard Boiled]] because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The [[Sin City]] talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== ''Tears of the Sun'' ==

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Re:Tybalts Gun==

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

==Ak recog==
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Jarhead'' M60E3 ==

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the [[M60 machine gun]], it has always had two [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240 machine gun]]s; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The [[Browning M2]] heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==animated gifs==
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.

[[Image:HEAT M4 shorty Shootout.gif]]
MPM2008

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Reign of Fire==
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008

==...==

Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008

::Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.

::BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008

== Jaws ==

Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping [[Jaws]]? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Top Pages ==

Very cool idea - nice work. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping [[Four Brothers]], and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]], so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Jaws]] is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==thanks==

Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:

[[Image:MyP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.

Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.

:As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...

:BTW, very nice job on the ''[[Last Man Standing]]'' page! Though I would recommend maybe being a ''little'' less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==crap==
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==Empty Pages I Created==
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. [[User:CyclopsScott|CyclopsScott]] 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==Western guns==
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==Hotel Rwanda==
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== The World Is Not Enough (video game) ==

Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough

I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.

edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.

==FYI==
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Walther P99 page ==

hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page

i'm still learning how to edit. apologies

edit: appreciate it :)

==Hollowpoint==
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.

== American Gangster page ==

Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.

==the subject of "dibbs"==
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.

There you go, I cut the black bars off the [[Hostage]] screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on [[Hot Fuzz]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==fun gun==
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FG42 1st pattern rifle - 7.92mm]]
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Excellent work!! ==

Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!

==Movies to screengrab==
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.

==Remington 870==
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Morita Rifle==
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Bangkok Dangerous==
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==tropic thunder==
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==590==
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==You're not gonna believe this==
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==On some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Smokin' Aces ==

Hey GM45, do you by any chance have [[Smokin' Aces]]? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==New screencaps==
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Workload==
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:U.S. Marshals==

Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== anonymous users ==

It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Molotovs==
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==.PNG Images==

Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.

==Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics==
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Late model Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and transitional rear sight (same as M1 first model)]]

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== the other Glock ==
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.

==Alien Nation==
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ''Jingle All the Way'' ==

Thanks for the compliments on ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== The Dark Knight ==

I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do [[The Dark Knight]], you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

::I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.
[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Got it for you==
Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:H&K94Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|HK94 converted into a full auto gun with chopped barrel - 9mm]]

==T2==
I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)

BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.

Check this out: :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FNC semi auto imported rifle - marked FNC 223 REM SPORTER on the receiver - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps on Commando==
I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape. ==

You can do it.I don´t mind.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen ==
Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68

== Re: Scarface ==

I'll try to get more shots for [[Scarface]] when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on [[Mail Call]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.6.6.30]

This made me really pissed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==

I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a ''severe'' warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313

==24==

Will you be around today to screen cap [[24]] Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on [[24]]. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on [[24]] the page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Lord of War==

Eh, depends. Main question is, how ''many'' additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the ''[[Lord of War]]'' page is one of the site's most popular.

::I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Tyrannasaurus ==

It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Godfather ==

Thanks, ''[[The Godfather]]'' is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: The Departed==

Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.

Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on ''[[Get Smart]]''! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), ''and'' I got two days off from work, ''and'' I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.

:Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Good suggestions! ==

Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of ''[[The Getaway (1972)]]'' so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: The Untouchables ==

Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Mail Call ==

Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.

Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.

I made some edits to it but they got erased. Why? I'm still working on screencapping yet, i didn't have enough time to add gun pics and you didn't add them. P.S When will you be getting season 3-8? [[User:Drjuki]]

Oh, ok. I thought you ment don't add any seasons since you were going to do that. I didn't know you were going to through the earlier seasons. You know who. Drjuki.

== The Untouchables ==

Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.

== XXX ==

Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in [[Armageddon]], [[XXX]] and [[Death Race]]. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from [[We Were Soldiers]] that we had two miniguns mount on.

== Video Games ==

Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.

== Iron Man CAR15 ==

In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M60E1 machine gun ==

I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M1 Garand question ==

I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the '''M60''', I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)
[[Image:M60SnapShotOnSet.jpg]]
:Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM

==Re:Hitman==

Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==

Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances.
[[User: Charon68]]

==Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...
[[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by "Ace Hanlon" ([[Lance Henriksen]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' .45 LC. This is the actual live firing screen gun used by Lance Henriksen.]]
[[Image:Remington1875Q&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The custom engraved Remington 1875 used by John Herod ([[Gene Hackman]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This it the ACTUAL revolver used by Hackman in the Saloon sequence.]]
[[Image:Remington1875SilverQ&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|This it the Custom All silver Remington 1875 used by 'The Kid' ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This is the actual revolver handled by DiCaprio in the Gun Store scene!.]]

Like it? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I got more, but they're not western related ==
I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....

[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kimber Custom TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free and Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Replacing some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Your page format==
I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==SOCOM Mk 23==
The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Hitman==

It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.

Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gunner313 ==

Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Iron Giant'' ==

I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shoot 'Em Up.==

Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.

- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==push==
Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Legends of the Fall ==

Hi, I congratulate you for you work!
Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film?
Sorry for my bad english.

== Legends of the Fall (again) ==

Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.

== shotgun in Thunderball ==

Hey I just posted screenshots from ''[[Thunderball]]'' and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a [[Remington 870]]) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Tanks for your answer ==

Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.

==SIG==

Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for ''Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft'' (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Rundown==
Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are '''not''' what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also '''replace''' any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Blank revolver question==
My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shit==

I just did an edit on ''[[The Rundown]]'' while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Norinco SKS Sporter==
Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.

==Blank revolvers==
Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM

==The Rundown==
BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shootemup==
I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Legends of the Fall==
I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.

==Street Kings==

Hey,

I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the ''[[Street Kings]]'' page. And I literally just mean a few:

*(1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
*(2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
*(3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.

Would that be OK?

Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect.
--[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.

:Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates ([[Common]]) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

==Unforgiven Shotgun==

Hi

The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, Check out the photo of the W. Richards that I just posted. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Dust hit gun==
It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM

==Review on Wanted==
You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. '''Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. ''' I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that '''Darth Vader is Luke's father''', some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==watermark==
excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
'''Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1'''
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== some Westerns ==

Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for ''[[The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford]]'' and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on ''[[American Outlaws]]'' which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: Boondock Saints==

Dude, armory scenes in movies ''always'' suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' or ''[[The Matrix]]''. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an ''extremely'' regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.

As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - ''[[Menace II Society]]'' and ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1897==

Hey John

I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Appaloosa==
Hey John
Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.
:No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix==
Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little ''''squished''''. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)

[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-DEa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-Cheetah2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-CheetahA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Admins==
FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008
::Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM

== Speakeasy804 ==

I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Need your help here==
Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....

[[Image:MMS-Twin-Silenced-Pistolsa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]
[[Image:MMS-TwinSilencedPistols2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]

Here are the candidates that people suggested:
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkCamperSS.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmark2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk II - Silenced]]
[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk III silenced - note the slight changes from the Mark II]]

What do you think? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
::When I saw this, I felt like a kid in some kind of store - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith==
Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".
[[Image:MMS-QuoteCorrect.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The Correct quote - what John Smith says after blowing up the shack.]]
Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

==Colt 25?==
I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Re: Sgt. York ==
Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==MM Smith Unknown 1911 Variant==
Hey John, I believe the 1911 shown is a Mile High Armory custom built 45 pistol. I also looks like a left hand 1911 as I can not see the slide stop or thumb safety on the side with the ejection port like a Randall left handed 1911. Check out http://www.milehigharmory.com they have a photo of a Randell. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Check under portfolio for the photos of their work. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Pages Lock Out==
Hey John, I know when you are completely done with a page some of the Mod's lock them out. I figure that way no one can mess with their Pet. But why lock out the actors pages associated with that show? The actors associated with [[The Wild Geese]] can not be accessed to add information and other shows since they worked more than one show. I thought the whole purpose of this wiki is to get the most complete information on the Show,Actor and Weapon possible. Please help out on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== 1911's and other models. ==

Thanks for your message. Very nice. Don't worry about how some cops might think you're a smart ass. We all tend to be that way when it comes to teenagers.Teenagers and cops are like oil and water. But usually once we see that you're on the level we tend to change our tone.Take me for example. I'm an '''old''' cop. At 41 I tend to come across as an old grouchy fart to kids, but I do warm up.

I grew up in a 1911 household. My father was also a cop as well as a Vietnam veteran. Though he carried the S&W Model 28 and later the S&W Model 65 as his sidearms he was (is) all about 1911's. At one point he owned ''seven'' of them. He's now down to a 1911A1, Colt Commander and a Colt Officers Model.

Even though I appreciate what John Browning accomplished with the 1911, and aknowledge it's strengths (i.e. it's excellent grip), I've just never taken a liking to it. When it comes to autos I prefer the "classic" Sig design, Glock and Beretta. I'm also fond of the Browning Hi-Power so Mr. Browning's pistol designs do have some influence with me.

However I'm a big fan of revolvers. I own many many wheelguns. Smith & Wessons make up the bulk of my collection, but there are a couple Colts and a [[Webley Mk VI]] - which is my pride and joy.

I've been a gun-nut almost all of my life so you are not unusual at your age. I'm a firearms instructor at my department as well. Combine my interest of firearms with my love of movies and many of my fellow officers look at me like I'm some type of whacko. But whne they have a question about guns, movies or need help improving their pistol score guess who they come looking for?

Talk to you later. [[Jcordell]]

Oh one more thing. I downloaded an image of a [[Savage 99]] rifle. I even figured out how to create a page, but how do I get the image to show up on the page? I have a link but no photo. Help me out partner. Please. [[Jcordell]]

== Thanks for your help ==

Appreciate it. HAve to help us old guys out now and again. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]
Ah - ha! Got it.

The lever action rifle dosen't deliver the same type of accuracy as a bolt action. But it's fast and easy for lefties (like me) to use with ease. Plus there is the historical signifance.

== Winchester Model 1895 ==

I live in Idaho. Last summer Imade it down to Provo, Utah and went to the Browning museum. Also went and saw the old Browning shop. I mentioned that I don't really care for the 1911. But I do enjoy the Hi-Power and I'm a big fan of the Winchester 1895. I own one in 30-06. One of the new ones made back in 1996. I also own an 1897 riot-gun which I'm fond of. So I understand your fondess of Browning guns. Take care. Keep on working.

I've done what I could for Dirty Harry and Outlaw Josey Wales pages but I'm sure you'll improve them.[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== My job here ==

Yeah, you're right about my "act" here. I've been a little sloppy lately and I will finish doing the rest of some of the pages like my first few. Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Black Lagoon are pages I really need to do since they were my first pages. I'll make a note to finish those pages and put links on them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Colt Troopers. ==

Will do. I didn't know that. Thanks.

==Colt Mustang==
The Colt Mustang (a .380 pistol) is on the M1911 page. I don't think it belongs there. All those other models are in .45 acp (or they have other calibers as well as 45 ACP), but essentially they are .45 guns. I was going to pull the Colt mustang and create a page for the Mustang/Pony since they are both subcompact Colt guns in .380. What do you think? MPM20008

==S&W MkII Hand Ejector==
Hey John, I think this and the S&W M1917 has the same info they both the same N frames different calibers. Maybe they should be combined into a S&W Pre-War N Frame or the M1917 info transferred to the S&W MkII Hand Ejector. The same goes for the Colt M1917 as it is a Colt New Service in .45 ACP. Just thought you should know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the green handgun, with the way actors treat guns sometimes, one can only imagine.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

==orphaned image==
What is this from? It's not linked to any page.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:45-110Sharps.jpg
MPM2008

==Bergmann MP18==
Hey John. In the Gun section we have a duplicate listing the Bergmann MP18 which is fine and the MP18. They both have the same info and photo figure that you can get rid of one. Thanks. Steve

== ''CSI: Miami'' S&W Semi-Auto ID ==

I don't think the pistol shown on ''[[CSI: Miami]]'' is a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5946|S&W 5946]]. If you look at the screenshot versus the photo on the gun's page, you can see the gun in the screenshot has a decocker safety on the right side of the slide while the one in the photo does not. The [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4046|Smith & Wesson 4046]] does have a right-handed safety though. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

==In the Line of Fire Llama==
Hey John, Just to give you a heads up the Llama used In The Line of Fire is a Llama IIIA in .380 caliber. The weapons on the show were supplied by Ellis Mercantile. Also I might have a photo of the prop double for the composite pistol. The firing model was cut into three pieces after the movie was filmed. Thanks Steve

==XM16E1==

Hey John, I edited one of MPM's photo hope he doesn't mind to much but his photos are awesome. I worked on get those rifles ready for We Were Soldiers a couple of month prior to filming. It's amazing the research we did on all the weapons from that battle reconfigured our XM16E1 back to 1965. We even built the correct AK's for Vietnam since everyone else always used stamped receiverd AK. When the show was done everyone though we were wrong until you look and the combat photos and we were correct. Most critics completely missed that we only had two of the correct model Huey's. Steve

==Idea for New Page==
Hey John, I had an idea for a new page just on blank cartridges. Maybe we can ask MPM about getting some photos or I can get some myself when I go back to the armory after wrap. Thanks Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. (for the record, YOU ALWAYS gave me credit and it was appreciated. Besides, I always ended up photographing the real deal as a result). Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

== M4 vs. M4A1 ==

The original M4 did NOT have a removable carry handle, it had a fixed one with 3-round burst. The original M4 was pretty much an M16A2's upper & lower recievers with a telescoping stock and 14.5" barrel with cuts for mounting the M203 ahead of the front sight assembly. It was the later M4A1 that featured the flat-top upper/full auto lower reciever assemblies. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

The very earliest Type 56s, which were made 1956-1963, were built with milled receivers. The Poly Tech Legend is something completely different - it's a semi-auto copy of the original AK-47 designed for the civilian market in the 1980s. It looks almost identical to the original Russian AK-47 (visually, they're pretty much impossible to tell apart) and does not have the full-circle front sight of the Type 56. The receiver style has nothing to do with it. There were Type 56s which had milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:No worries. Also, I addressed your debate with Orca on the M4/M4A1 on his talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Young Guns ==

Great job with ''[[Young Guns]]''! I especially liked the inclusion of the picture of the real Billy the Kid holding his Winchester compared to the photo of Estevez in the film. Nice added historical bit - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:You were definitely right about the picture, the more I look at it the more I wonder if there wasn't ''something'' they could've done to make it look a little more accurate. Thanks for the compliment about the Bond films (they're favorites) and good luck with the ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' films and all - Clint will be proud once he sees the work you've done! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:: Nice job on Young Guns including the photo of the real Billy the Kid. I don't know if you knew this fact about that photo is that the plate was reversed. The load gate on the Winchester is on the wrong side where as the Emilio Estevez photo is on the correct side.

==RE: RoboCop 2==

Thanks! I actually think it's a cool concept, but for Hob, it's the perfect weapon. It goes with his whole tactic of taking advantage of his age. "Officer reporting: It's just some kid carrying a blue lunchbox. No way he shot those dudes."

Sorry to hear you're sick, but have fun doing the "Dirty Harry" movies. Oh, and I had no idea that Eastwood's gun in the first one was a Model 25. That's news to me, but it does make perfect sense, for the reasons you explained. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== re: Nice Work ==

Thanks for the compliments! Feel free to make any adjustments with the Model B on ''The Untouchables'' page, I had neglected to think about that when I made the page, assuming Costner was using all M1911A1s and only that one henchman had a Star. Looking back, I can see I was wrong but I didn't get enough angles in enough scenes to discern when Costner had a Model B. I appreciate the help with that!
Also, I'll peruse ''The Godfather'' sometime very soon and get a shot of the M1A1, just for completion's sake.
On a different note, great job with the first ''Dirty Harry''. Those pages have been in dire need of a fix-up and you're certainly doing justice to those great movies! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also, I recall maybe a few weeks ago you had asked about ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' - I just fixed it up tonight in case you're interested/have any input - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have ''Casino Royale'' so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get ''Quantum of Solace'' pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is ''Never Say Never Again'' which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with ''Magnum Force'' as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:::I never saw ''Flashpoint'' but the caps we have from it make it look pretty entertaining. Also, I saw ''Magnum Force'' is done - looks great! I should have a bunch more DVDs coming in this week so I'll try and get back on my game. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle ==
Gunmaster,
Could you please mearge this page with the Short Action Lee Enfield page as the Enfield Enforcer is just a 7.62 NATO version of the WW2 Lee Enfield Sniper varient.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman==
Hi John, Nice to be back after working on location. I notice this page list as new the tile is misspelled and the format is not correct. Could you fix this as it does not look right being misspelled. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== KAC SR-25 ==

If you read the paragraph at the top of the [[Knight's Armament SR-25]] page, you'll see that the M110 is the designation of the SR-25 given by the U.S. Army. Aside from the name and some other minor differences, they're virtually identical weapons. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hello other-young-gun-nut ==

I finally have an account here now, I've been working on the site for about a year as an AU. Some of the pages I've helped create inclue CSI miami which I pretty much built up from the ground, and The Island, Constantine, and LA Confidential. Dude, we NEED to do HOUSE MD!--[[User:GlocksRevilACP|GlocksRevilACP]] 04:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Beretta 9000S==
You da man! I figured your EAGLE EYES would catch which beretta model Jane's gun was...! :) MPM2008

== Dirty Harry Series Re-vamp ==

If you're the one who has been re-vamping the Diry Harry movies, thank you so much. It was really weak at first and you made it WAY better. I hope you re-vamp ''Sudden Impact'' and ''The Dead Pool'' as well because they are pretty weak.

== Hostage Molotovs ==

While I understand that you worked on this page (and, I must admit, you did a damn good job on it), please remember that this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs aren't firearms. Sorry.

:That seems fair enough. Thank you for at least taking the time to talk to me, instead of just throwing a ban on me for a "first offense" so to speak (a few other administrators tend to overreact). I understand now. Thanks.

==Colt 1903 new page==
Hey John, There is a new Colt 1903 page that needs to be removed as it is a duplicate of the Colt Model 1903/1908 page we already have. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT Pistols page==
Awesome work on the AMT page. It's been needed. Have you been talking to Rockwolf? Anyway, it's been sorely needed, but this was the best compromise possible since these guns were 'automags' in name only. Unfortunately there are VERY few of these types of guns in movie weapons rental inventory. No one ever wanted them. MPM2008
:: Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. ''"No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!"'' So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That would make sense, since changing the name to one word rather than two words was the way AMT tried to legally differentiate themselves from AMC. Unfortunately TONS of literature and sources on the net screw it up and name the AMT guns with Auto Mag versus Automag. And vice versa. It's your page. It's up to you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Last crusade==
Thanks. I screencapped ALL of the Indy films but I have to resize them and fix them for uploading. I sure hope no one starts doing it before I'm done. I hope some of the other users don't mind i replaced their shots, but some of the screenshots are pretty blurry or just not really clear. I don't know how it looks on your monitor, but I think my screenshots are clearer (take some of the other indy films for instance, except for the obvious "Production stills"). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redacted==
For the record, I am offended that this title is on here and would sooner see it deleted. I am going to request to the other admins that it be deleted. It is an insult to all Veterans (myself included). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC) And if Bowling for Columbine ever shows up here, it's gone.

::Edit, sorry I'm not picking on you. I just didn't want you to go through the trouble of screencapping that film. I figured all the younger members of IMFDB aren't as tuned into the feelings of American Veterans. MPM

==Thanks for the reply==
But I would argue its a lot easier to hold an absolutely 'neutral' attitude when one has no 'dog in the fight' per se. Having served some time in service I have such a disdain for that work that I must admit I get really angry when I see it. Perhaps in years to come, like the people who suffered on 9/11 may be able to stomach "watching a movie where Americans are the bad guys and the hijackers are the heroes", I may be able to stomach trash like DePalma's piece of crap. There are tons of more worthy films that have not been listed yet. We are so far away from being the all encompassing film database like IMDB that if we get closer to listing EVERYTHING, then we would be obligated to list even the most despicable listings. I would argue that it is controversial right now (perhaps not so much later on), but there is little upside to keeping it. Again thanks for your honest discourse. Always a pleasure. MPM2008

==addendum==
Yeah, I probably would feel better if we had a disclaimer that we don't support the film but list it for purely informational purposes so that IMFDB doesn't end up offending vets or families of vets who come here. I think that is the biggest concern for me. Anyway, thanks again for the note. Now that we're getting controversial, I might as well start listing the guns for "Triumph of the Will" ;) hahahah. thanks again. MPM2008

== Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]] ==

You're right about the model used by Tyne Daley in [[The Enforcer]]. It does look like a Python snubbie, but I still think Felton Perry is using a Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]]. It looks like it has a smaller frame which would match the Diamondback. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

Great. thanks. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: LaFrance Specialties M16K Question==
Hey John, Tim LaFrance made the M16K with both types of upper receivers. I am trying to nail down how many variations of the M16K there are. I have what looks like four variation maybe five. But the one in your photos are M16K. Hope this helps. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I just uploaded a photo of the M16K with Forward Assist that you can use. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

I've used a .45 version of the M-16K in my personal fiction but I don't think that one has appeared on film yet. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==VIP==
Thanks. I work hard on the Screenshots to make them look better. And as you've pointed out, I like bad cinema and tv. re: Model 36 pic. I don't want it to seem that I was in any way yelling at you when I reverted that image. That picture bothers me now. It was a project gun of a gunsmith and I checked the frame and it was definitely marked 36-2 (I take detailed notes when I take photographs of guns) and I'm no Smith & wesson expert, but the details LOOK like the more modern revolvers. Should I delete the image? The front sight and cylinder latch 'could' have been updated with newer parts. I hate having pics like this which 'could' be custom and not indicative of a standard model. Thoughts? MPM2008

==VIP gun help==
I have some pics in the 'to be sorted' section of the VIP page. Two shots of a suppressed pistol and one hard to see shot of an LAPD detective's revolver. Since you're the eagle eye on the site, do you have any ideas? Thanks. MPM2008

== Diamondback or Python ==

Hey, I know you just finished re-vamping ''[[The Enforcer]]'', so I figure you'd be able to help. I'm not so sure that Insp. Moore is using a Colt Python. It's possible, but it looks more like the Diamondback that Insp. Perry used in the previous movie, ''[[Magnum Force]]''. What do you think? [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

Well for what it's worth I think that Tyne Daley is carrying a Colt Python "snubbie" in ''[[The Enforcer]]''. It looks to be the right size since the Diamondback is built on the same frame as the Colt Detective Special while the Python was built on the old 41 frame - a bigger frame. Also the hammer's spur on the revolver carried by Tyne Daley looks like a Python hammer instead of the Diamondback. But I do believe that Felton Perry was carrying a Diamondback in ''[[Magnum Force]]''. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Outlaw Josey Wales ==

Nice work. One of my favorite movies and the original page bothered me. It's looking very good. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==What the hell happened with In The Line of Fire?==

Your pictures and information show up on the history pages, but when you click on the main link, it shows the page as it was before you touched it. WTF? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 23:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

==Collateral==
Hey John, Matt had asked me that same question so I talked to the other armorer on set Larry. Larry confirmed it was a two-tone Jericho 941 Blued slide and a hard chrome receiver. I was working with the SWAT guys for the night club scene and Larry handled the stunt guy which is who had that weapon. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:John, It looks like the first photo is the two-tone Jericho 941 and photos two and three are the two-tone EAA Witness as those are different stuntmen. I would try and get some paperwork as backup but those were Gibbons Ltd gun and they have been sold to ISS.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, I have an ID for that other pistol on Collateral for you. I Talked to Larry who was the General Manager of Gibbons Ltd and the armorer on Collateral. He looked up the paperwork on the show and said they were the Sphinx AT 2000 made in Switzerland. I have found the photo and will add shortly. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:: John, That's a lot of movies for the weekend can't wait to see them. I am working on the following
* ''[[Miracle at St. Anna]]'' filling out the page
* ''[[Bullets or Ballots]]''
* ''[[Warbirds]]'' A bad SciFi Channel Movie.
* ''[[Lady Gangster]]''

Screencaps are finished on those movies just working on the layouts.

==Winchester 1892==
John, Sorry about the upload of the 94. I deleted the 92 thinking it was the 94 I will have to see my friend to take the photo again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Category:Flare Pistol==
Hey John, Could you please delete this category I made this one by mistake. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks for the assist. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I appreciate the weapons I missed. That's the eagle eyes I expect. BUT .... I'm not at all happy with MORE shots of the guns I already have. You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion regarding the number of screenshots for a movie page. You like to have WAY more than I like to have per weapon and though it really irritates me, I don't do anything to your pages. I do get annoyed when you add gun pics to the sections where I already have pics. I certainly cannot trim down the screenshots on pages that you make, though on pages like LMS I sure would like to delete about HALF of the screenshots, Why should I have to accept something which I fundamentally disagree with ... on my own pages? MPM

==Seecamp==
Are you answering the question I asked MT2008? re: the Seecamp 32 in Die Hard with a Vengeance? or are you ID'ing the pistol that Pamerla Andersen has in the bathtub in V.I.P.? Also I have some guns I can't ID on the Bionic Woman page, so I'd ask the EAGLE EYE if you have the time MPM2008

==RE:==

Well, I see you're already doing it anyway. :) But yeah, it's cool if you want to upload more. Just don't go ''too'' crazy. Also, you should go ahead and separate the AK variants. When I did this page originally, IMFDB wasn't in the habit of distinguishing the Norinco Type 56s from the AK-47 or AKM, so go ahead and separate the first section into the different variants. Also, it seems a lot of the Type 56-1s in the movie have the AKM-style receiver cover and grip. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, you can replace all my old ones if you wish. They're somewhat lower-res than yours. Also, did you see the nickel-plated AK on the wall of Yuri's weapons container? The one with the forward grip? That's this gun: http://weaponspecialists.com/view-prop.php?id=160&name=AK47-Stainless It was originally made for the movie ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

:Sounds good. It looks WAY better, plus it has lots of guns that I missed. Also, I think there may be an AR-7 variant in Yuri's gun container (it's visible in the same screencap as the ''[[Belly]]'' AK). I have a few more comments on the page, but I'll wait until you're done before I make them to avoid edit conflicts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bourne Identity (1988) ==

Hey, thanks for the quick help with some of the guns in the original Bourne Identity. Before I change the Makarov entry, you said it was actually a CZ-82. Is each gun used a CZ-82 or just ones in certain scenes? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I don't think we have an entry yet on those, do you know any other movies they were in? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Interesting, learn something new everyday. I'll link it to the CZ-83 page with an explanation on the picture that's a commercial version of the military pistol. And of course, thanks for the help! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Hey John, I see that you added the blued Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 back to the Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 page. Just to let you know the the revolver was never issued blued it was issued in a bare metal finish only. That was the reason I uploaded the correct image over MPM's. Just letting you know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I agree with keeping the original finish, but here's a thought ..., if some armorer somewhere, at sometime decided to BLUE his gun and it appeared in any film (I'm not saying it has) but if it did, we would be benefited from having a blued version, even though it would technically be some gunsmith's aftermarket conversion. Just at thought. But the revolver WAS issued only "in the white" historically... :) MPM2008

==Did you take this picture?==
I was going to replace it with a licensed shot I shot myself of the same pistol but I wouldn't if you were the original photographer of this shot. Thanks. MPM2008
http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/S%26W25.jpg

== Help ==

How do i take picures and add them to the website like the pink panther 1 which i seen alot of guns. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S R U AND ADMIN OR A SYSOP? [[User:Drjuki]]

Srry i'm asking alot of questions i'm kinda new here, anyway do you know of the game endless war? if you do would it be considered a flash animation? and also who created this site? thanks. [[User:drjuki]]

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Redirecting ==

How do you properly do Redirects without losing the history of the page it was before? Because everytime I do it, I mess up somehow. I tried redirecting to The Hills Have Eyes to Hills Have Eyes (2006), The, but got a red link, so I a filled in the blank page, and the somehow, the original name to the the pages still remains in the recent changes list. Thanks for any help.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'll remember to use move instead, some anonymus user created the page before I tried redirecting it. I know I haven't done any work in a long time, once in awhile I'll find a movie I want to screencap, right now I'm thinking about uploading some extra shots for [[I Am Legend]]. Btw, good job on you most recent pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I found a few good shots in the movie that were missed, although I'm not completely comfortable about replacing someone else's screengrabs, so I might put some screenshots on the talk page for anyone who's more comfortable with replacing them. Also, I've seen Ctone's blog too, and he does a great job, especially with his screenshots. I think I might get started screencapping now since I have alot of free time. Thanks for the Redirect btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I got so far, and I'll be uploading more tomorrow as well. If you have any suggestions for screenshots, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

==Madness Combat==
Does anyone where i could post a madness combat page, i have like tewlve pages filled with guns and I HAVE TO POST THEM!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Drjuki]]

No i know i can't post them here, i was just wondering if you knew a site where i could. [[User:Drjuki]]

== I Am Legend ==

Sure, I'll get pictures when I put the DVD in.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Call of duty 2 ==

Hey i don't plan these i just add pics if it needsem or add text if it needs em. I don't even have half the games i edit on here. [[User:Drjuki]]

Yes I was. [[User:Drjuki]]

== RE: COD4(DS) ==
Beacause I've seen some site that listed them. IMFDB Isn't the only site that has weapons in Anime, Movies, TV, And Video Games you know. Sure it's the best one but, you know there are some sites. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S The reason I don't write very well is because I am not used to writing without spellcheck, and grammer check. [[User:Drjuki]]

That is a good I will do that. [[User:Drjuki]]

== Pictures ==

I have a question, if there was a movie where a guy got his head blown off but he had a gun in his hand, would users be allowed to take that pic and other gruesome images? [[User:Drjuki]]

Would you be able to tell me a list of pages that have those? Not all them but just the ones you know. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

== Contact Info? ==

Hey GM45, I was wondering, do you have any instant messenger programs or the like? I'd like to chat with you off-site if possible. You can send your contacts to the email address listed on my userpage if you'd prefer to keep from getting spammed. Hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey um, i have a website that has a chatroom on it it's kinda a failed project it's not done yet, if so how's may 9th 3:30?
heres the link http://charlietheunicornstuff.synthasite.com/

You know what f**k that [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

==Re:Appaloosa==
Hey John, Glade you like the film I enjoyed it. Most armories will not give credit to the designer or build for fear they client will go direct to the designer next time around. I only have one armory that tells everyone what I build for them. I will work on those 8 Gauge photos this weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Not sure who did the sound for the show. They most likely re-recorded all the gunfire as they plan to make a second movie. That way the will have their own sound library for the next show.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Appaloosa screencaps. ==

Looking forward to your screencaps. It's a great movie and the page has been needing some help. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. Probably one of the best westerns I've seen in years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:Hey John, Nice work on the [[Appaloosa]] page. I am going though the build photos for the [[SK 1878 shotgun]] now and hope to post late tonight the photos and some background with them. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

== When we're gone... ==
What are we going to do when are syops and admins start leaving? When we die, (not literally but not go here anymore) what will happen? Will we appoint new ones? (P.S I've helped out every call of duty page, so thats 10 pages!) Or will we just shut down this site? Will we start making pages for Halo and gears of war when lasers come out? Drjuki.

== Flash ==

Could we make a seperate IMFDB for just flash? We could call it IFFDB (Internet Flash Firearms DataBase)? Drjuki.

==Can You use this anywhere?==
[[Image:TaurusPT92-2tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Taurus PT92 Two Tone - 9mm]]
Another MPM 2008 Image.... ;) MPM2008

==More for your Shootem up page==
[[Image:TaurusPT92AF-Reverse2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Reverse Two Tone Taurus PT92AF - 9mm]]
The arm has a reverse two tone gun like this one. I think this image can help. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

==blanks==
I am super busy today, but I am going to look at one of our Hollywood blank and perhaps take a pic of how the cardboard wad is constructed and send it off. regards. MPM2008

== Deadwood ==

Hey GM, I just screencapped the first season of ''[[Deadwood]]''. Since you're a pro with that time period, I was wondering if you'd be able to give it a look at all if you have a chance just to check to see if I've been getting things right? Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 21:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry about my late response, I've been busy between work and finishing the Deadwood page. It's all done now so I'll go through looking for errors and discrepancies, etc., etc. I appreciate your information added about the S&W Models 1 and 2, which I'll try to sort out once I can find good gun pictures for each to use. In response to grouping the SAAs together, I would do so (as I normally do) but since I took a large number of screencaps, I decided it would be at least a semi-logical way to split it up. The ''[[Joe Kidd]]'' page looks great of course; very interesting to see a C96 used in a Western (although it's a shame they used the typical Hollywood bottomless magazine!) Finally, I'm very impressed by "Gladys" your 1911! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taken==
Go ahead, John. I was planning on going to get it, but a shitload of work just came my way. Happy hunting. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

==Joe Kidd==
Hey John, Looking over the Joe Kidd page you built looks nice. I believe that the Colt 1877 Lightning you show in the capture is a Colt 1878 Double Action in 45 Long Colt. Also the Lightning photo you posted in the Lightning page for Kill Bill is a Cimarron Lightning Single Action. If thats the case does that go in the Single Action Army page like the Uberti's? -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, You are correct I would only add strange Uberti, Hartford and others that were used like the Hartford Model Sheriff and Pinkerton that we used in the Streets of Laredo. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Admin ==
Hey how many pages do you have to edit or make to become a admin? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Matrix: Revolutions ==
Hey, I didn't know whether to put this here or on the Matrix page, but I'll put it both places.
I'd kind of like to do M:R but I saw that you had it down on your to do list. It's yours if you want it, but you might have bigger stuff on your plate. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 05:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, go ahead! --[[Special:Contributions/207.108.206.237|207.108.206.237]] 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: your guns ==
I'd never taken a look at your firearm collection before, but did today. You have some awesome stuff. Being a sucker for 1911's I really like Gladys, and the "Spanish Llama XV" guns. This is really not a post of any real value, but damn. Those are amazing.
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Eastwood's page ==

Would you have a problem if I began organizing some of the larger actor pages, such as Eastwood's, chronologically and by film to make them easier? I'd leave the same photos and everything but I just feel the pages should be in some sort of order. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 23:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Desert Eagle Love ==

Thanks, and yes, I know that it is a pretty impractical weapon (don't rub it in), but a few folks I know just like that weapon. I'm just a big fan of large caliber weapons, and I'm just one of those few who just, well you know. Anyways, I'm honored to have become a user on this site. P.S. Thanks for the pointer!
- [[User:500Magnum]]

==I owe you an apology on the Model 60==
Well, today I saw the owner of the Model 36 in satin nickel and he said 'that's not in satin nickel. I was talking about another gun. That's stainless', WTF? That's not what I remembered, but oh well. I popped it open and it is still marked Model 36, so I queried more about why it was marked Model 36-2 and he 'forgot' to mention that it was a factory missmark and thus was collectible. So my tirade about the Model 60 being a custom Model 36 seems a bit unnecessary. I showed him the IMFDB site and he basically concurred, there is nothing about that gun that makes it different from a Model 60 other than the weird factory model stamping which no one can see. I'm no S&W expert, but he set me straight and pointed out that I was wrong to complain about others naming it a 'model 60' when for all intents and purposes, it looks just like one. So I owe you an apology regarding the Model 36/Model 60. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== I like your pictures ==

I'd also like to comment on your pictures, and I think those are pretty good. You must have worked hard to get them.
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
What I meant to say was your screencaps were good; excuse me. - [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

== New IMFDB? ==
This is hyothetical, say there were some movies I liked and I wanted just them on a site. So I make a website with let's say the matrix. now let's say I copied and pasted descriptions and copied pics from imfdb. Would I be able to do that if I say that I got them from Imfdb.org? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 22:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok That wasn't hypothetical, I'd already done it and wanted to make sure I could keep it. Don't worry. I deleted it. no more. I hope you don't sue me for everything i've got. (P.S. I'm only 10 so that won't work very well.) (P.S.S. Why won't you shoot the nambu?

== I am Legend ==

I got the last screenshots for I Am Legend up, and sorry for the really long delay. how does it look now?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and no problem, I'm glad those templates are gone too, I don't understand why Dragon would even use them when they looked bad, plus we never needed them anyway, I mean it's not that hard to make a simple phrase at the top of each page. About the forum, I signed up for it a few months ago, but I lost my password, I'll be sure to sign up for it again eventually since it appears to be really active. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Pineapple Express ==

Thanks for warning me about the widescreen bars. It took a while, but I removed all of the bars on each of the caps I saved. Tommorrow, I'll replace the ones I aleready posted, and continue my work on the page. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep this in mind for my future postings.
--[[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 12:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Comments in Articles ==
I have relocated several comments of yours from the body of the article to the discussion page. All signed comments should be posted in the discussion page. Otherwise, great work, keep it up. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 20:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandals ==
What would you do if some one erased mail call. Like they made a account just to vandalise. and if i put sucks on Twilight, would it count as vandalism? P.S can you tell me when you're done with mail call? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't you think you got it when you're done with mail call, could you tell me that you're done on my talk page? (P.S. I've looked at my contributions and i've made 545 edits! sadly none of them are screencaps, so I can't be a admin yet :( and hey I made a spongbob page (for fun) and I can't beleve how fast it dissapeared! could you tell me who and what happened to it? and hey how old were you when you got made an admin and when you joined?) (P.S.S. The reason I didn't make any screencaps is that my dad won't show me the program that we have because he doesn't like guns and sorry I'm asking so many questions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Help with Identifying Guns ==
hi, I was talking to a friend and he said that he saw 2 unusual weapons on CSI, i was wondering if you could tell me whether or not they were real

the first was a gun that, somehow was able to shoot 2 rounds into the same wound whilst only clicking the trigger once. (sorry if its quite vague); and the other was a gun that was known on CSI:Miami as the "Vapouriser", in the show it turned a person into a mist of blood.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 22:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== thanks man ==

thanks for the help man, a said to my friend I thought that the "vapouriser" wasnt real, but he was adamant about it.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== "Gladys" ==
: That is one nice 1911 you have there.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Last Boy Scout Page==
I read on page ''The Last Boy Scout'' that you want to restore it. I had not noticed that your message and I have already prepared all the screencaps and some information (work at 50%). Can I prepare that page or want it you? Or you want my screencaps and you write the description because I spoke bad English? [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
::I think that your work will certainly be better than mine. I asked you just to know what was your job. If you're ready to upload good work! ^_^ - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Mail Call ==

I know you don't listen to me and use this to make the score bigger, but counting the REPEATS of weapons already establish. The Garand, the M16 repeats at least 3 times and you counted them into the score. That's just stupid. It's like if I take the 4 seasons of the Unit an counted 1 for every time I see a firearm, even though I have already established that we do see it from season 1. I put down M4s, but I don't do it 4 different times because this rifle has appeared in all the seasons, I just put images of how the rifle looks from each season under the M4 category. I label each section, handguns, SMGs, rifles, etc and put weapons under each regardless of the seasons they've appeared in. The format you've done for Mail Call makes it very messy and kind confusing and VERY unnecessarily LONG. I'm not dissing your efforts, I just think you over did it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

==Commando Tranquilizer Pistol==
Hey John, I noticed on another blog the Bennett had a tranquilizer pistol pointed and Matrix. Do you have a screen capture on this. I would pull it but I don't have the movie. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey John, Thanks for getting that screen cap later it was just miss identified as a Crossman Air Pistol. I figured that I would fix that little error. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Last Boy Scout Page ==

I have some screencps of various weapons that you haven't published in the page. Can I add them or you're still working on the project? I do not want to ruin your work. If you want I can show them before posting. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:I asked you only because I thought you had finished to post all the images. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Deadliest Warrior ==

Can you ID the Colt Revolver on my [[Deadliest Warrior]] page? Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Deleted article ==

Why did you delete the article for Perfect Dark? Was there something wrong with it I should know about? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Taps ==

Was limited in my resources when I first created the page. Thanks for not wiping out my contributions all together (which has happened before)and excellent work on the caps [[ User:Charon68|Charon68]]

==sorry==
I am sorry if you had issues with my categorizing the firearms lists of various pages. I only did so becaues I found it to be more organized on longer articles than the simple listing method used on shorter pages. I agree with you that since I did not write the original article I have no right to completely alter its format. I am sorry I did so and will cease making these changes in the future.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I just recieved your message thanking me for my cooperation. I had no idea that the one undoing all of my changes was the articles original author (I probably should have checked though) and had I been aware would have desisted immediatly. A simple message would have been enough to make me aware of my mistake, therefore the ultimatum included in your first message was both unnecessary and unappreciated. In the future if you could alert me to my mistakes without the use of threats I would be appreciative. I apologize if a sound angry at all (I'm not, nor do bear you any grudge) I was just slightly offended by the manner in which you told me stop changing page format.
:-Anonymous

== Help for new idiot... ==

Gunmaster45,

I saw your edits to a page (Thief) I created. I am very new, so forgive my indiscretions and errors in protocol. I was wondering if it would be possible to explain how to generate the table of contents present on each page. This is the boxed heading at the top of each page showing each gun and when clicked, takes you directly to each section (gun). I wasn't sure if posting this question here is proper, but I haven't found the help area that explains this action.

Thanks for your help in editing, and I have to say your work is excellent and I will strive to emulate your talent here on this site. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the help, Gunmaster45! I appreciate your fast response. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

::Your suggestions for screencap editing are welcome. I will strive to adhere to the protocols in the future. I was using a poor, non-widescreen version for the screencaps. I have the WS DVD on order and will try to capture next week. If you decide to screencap similar scenes in the meantime, have at it! Thanks for the help. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 06:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

==Picture Assistance==
I have been contributing to this website for a long time and have written several articles and provided additions to many others. However, while I identify gun use in my pages and include pictures of the firearms (taken from other articles on this site) I have never been able to figure out how to upload pictures to this site from outside sources. Any instruction you can provide on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. My computer skills are mediocre to say the least, therefore I would be greatful if you could make the instructions as simple as possible.
:-Anonymous

==Thank You==
I followed your instructions on how to post images from outside sources and found them both easy to comprehend and effective. Thank you for showing me how to do this so that I can greatly improve my articles.
:-Anonymous

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix Screencap==
I noted on the Matrix discussion page that I was conducting a test and had realized that the existing screencaps are distorted, but the image is exactly the same as yours (the exact frame actually). Nothing on the page has changed, other than the fact that it was not uploaded by you. When people change pages, they're actually CHANGING the page, i.e. making the content different. I will only replace screenshots if they're distorted or crap. Yours were not crap, but I noticed that they seemed stretched upwards and I conducted a test to verify that. MPM2008

== Crossfire Trail ==
That would be great. It's a good western made in the older Hollywood style. It was directed by Simon Wincer who also directed [[Lonesome Dove]] I just bought a brand new Dell computer which will allow me to do screencaps, but right now I'm busy with household stuff and it's still sitting in it's box along with the 20" Hi-def screen --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Did a little research through my ''American Rifleman'' back-issues. Found some useful info about the guns used by [[Tom Selleck]] in his many westerns in the May 2002 issue.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Quigley Down Under ==

All it says is that there were three Shilo Sharps No. 3 rifles in 45-110 manufactured for him to use in the movie. It's my understanding that one of the rifles was donated to the NRA museum by Selleck.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
That's what I figured. Oh by the way I picked up a Luger a few weeks ago. Manufactured in 1916 at the Erfurt goverment arsenal. Shoots like a champ.Here is a so-so picture I took.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There it is. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Luger One.JPG|thumb|350px|none]]

== Cool Guns ==

I've long considered the Luger P08, Mauser C96 Broomhandle, and the Webley Mk VI revolver to be "cool" handguns. Oh sure there are better handguns out there and certainly more modern handguns, but that itn't the point. Since I was your age (really) I have wanted an example of those three handguns. I now own a Webley Mk VI and a Luger. Perhaps one of these days I'll get a Broomhandle. We'll see. Your dad has a nice Luger there by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your dad has the C96 carbine? Partner you absolutely have to get a photo of that sucker posted. Lucky S.O.B. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==I see you replaced my pic==
And it wouldn't be so bad if your pic was better, but it's not. The contrast ratio is still 'muddy' and color saturation is still weaker. I thought you were more mature than this. I guess I was wrong. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==my apologies==
Like usual, you have a good (and mature beyond your years) explanation for your actions. I apologize. I must keep remembering that you are not like 99% of the guys .. ON the internet ... most of whom are petty. I see so much pettiness on the net that I sometimes forget that this is not the case everyone. THANKS for the explanation. And again, I apologize :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==The Matrix Reloaded==

I see you're re-vamping the page. Well and done, and good work so far. But I beg of you...please try and limit yourself to 5 screencaps per gun? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:What I would recommend if you have shots that look cool but you've reached the limit is to post them on the discussion page for other people to look at. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Call of duty ==

Hey i found some pics that i could use to TOTALLY revamp COD2, COD4, COD5, and soon MW2. If you could Ok it that would be great. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 00:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey i hope you saw COD2 took me all night. P.S. i'm done with COD4 it's awesome, and tommorow i'll work on COD4 (DS), and COD5. P.S.S. great job on The Matrix Revolutions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Screencap assisstance==
I am a little confused on what it is necessary to obtain sceencaps. I am under the impression that specific software is required inorder to play movies in a manner so that screencaps be taken. If that is the case where can this software be obtained.
:-Anonymous

==Payback edit mistake==
I recently viewed the changes you made to the ''[[Payback]]'' article. While I agree completely with your eliminating the Smith & Wesson model 29 and 28 sections and replacing them with one section on the model 27, I noticed that you got rid of the section on the Beretta 92 Porter uses akimbo with his 27. This weapon was definitely present in the film therefore I am confused as to why you omitted it. I have not changed this myself for fear I might accidentally undo some addition or correction.
:-Anonymous

==Commentary==
I always love your commentary, GM. -protoAuthor

==Payback response==
I contacted you immediately after noticing the omission. I checked the article shortly after finishing my message and noticed the change but did not have time to negate my comment before you responded.
:-Anonymous

==Payback again==
I noticed that you eliminated the section on the Smith & Wesson model 38. I am not necessarily disputing your actions I just don't entirely understand it because it looked like the gun was used based on the screencaps that were included.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
Sorry
:-Anonymous

==New Template==
Concerning the new template used to categorize information on recent actor articles, I was wondering whether existing articles would be retroactively changed to fit the new format or if it will be required on future pages.
:-Anonymous

== Payback Page ==

I know that the pages I do are horrible and very bad and I have no objection if someone restores this works, I'm even glad of it, but it was nice to be informed before the repubblication that 8 hours of my work are destroyed. Good job anyway. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:If you've forgotten to advice me it means that there is no problem. I misunderstood your action. It's all ok. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Gran Torino ==

Hey GM45, Great work on Payback, it looks awesome. I also would like to know when you plan on screencapping [[Gran Torino]]? Because it's a good movie and I'm looking forward to seeing it's page completed. I'm not trying to rush you or anything, I'm just curious.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Birthday ==
Your birthday is on the 27th? Mine is on the 30th! It is quite funny how they are so close together.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
I am sorry I made such amateur mistake, considering how similar the two guns are in most aspects I did not think that such a crucial difference existed. You were certainly in the right to remove my comment and I greatly appreciate your explaining the reason to me. On another subject, I was curious if you could get back to me on the Template question I posted 4 sections above.
:-Anonymous

==Template Comment==
Actually, I rather don't care for the new template. I looked at the text in the editing and saw that it is extremely complicated to create. In addition, while the new system presents more information in a more organized fashion, I find it less aesthetically pleasing that the older, simpler format. While I have no problem with the new template being used, I contacted you because I was hoping that contributors who prefer could still create articles using the older format.
:-Anonymous

==Template==
I understand that people will use the new template and have no problem with that. However, I am worried that it will be retroactivly applied to existing articles whether or not article's contributors approve.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Per the anonymous user's comment, (since I can't reply to him) The template only applies to ACTOR pages and Gun pages. No one user has ownership of an Actor page or gun page. Users have 'some' rights over MOVIE/TELEVISION/ANIME/VG pages that they have worked hard on, but that's only a courtesy. If something is horrendously wrong, like a new user creates a hideous page, they have no right to keep a stupid page (like the guy who put 'The Ring'' as a page, WTF?). MPM2008

== Another opinion on new template ==
I don't like it. And personally I don't think I'm going to use it on pages I start. Guess that's me just being an old asshole. sorry. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you're right. Just being muleheaded.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy early Birthday ==

Thanks GM, I was just wondering, Happy birthday in advance by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

==Payback yet again==
I noticed you removed all of my responses on the ''[[Payback]]'' page to your comments about mistakes the characters or filmmakers made. I realize that my comments made the text about the images rather lengthy and I apologize if they made you feel that I was being overly critical of you, but the reason I wrote them was because ''Payback'' is one of my favorite films and I felt the need to defend it when any justification could be made for its errors. I do not intend to replace my comments, however, deleting them while entirely disregarding the arguments they presented (my Walther-Bersa feature mistake excepted) seems a little discourteous. Once again I am sorry for giving you so much grief over this page the last couple of weeks, but as I stated this is one of my favorite films and I just wanted to see it done justice.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I realize you enjoy pointing out the gun-related errors films make (I really do as well to be honest) and I have no issue with that whatever. In fact, the majority of your criticisms I left alone because I found them to be fully justified. The only comments I made were pertaining to mistakes I thought could justified such as missing at a close distance because the target is concealed or useing a poor grip because the size and location of a target make a hit guaranteed. I know some of the excuses have shaky foundations, but sense I enjoy the film so much I have been grasping at straws to vindicate it. I don't mind your removing them so much as I hope you at least considered what they said first. I will try to stop beating a dead horse and refrain from further commenting on this film, however I am not entirely sure I can restrain myself. ;)
:-Anonymous

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, I did notice you were using the template on the Actors pages it looks good with the info all cleaned up. I will note down about the boxed template and see what everyone else says. That's a good idea of your to clean up the Test page so everyone can use it for cut and paste. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

That does look good with the boxes on the [[Daniel Roebuck]] page. We'll have to see what the others say on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey John, My newest entry I have posted at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]] you might like it also.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Weeds Desert Eagle ==

Are you sure that it is a .44 Magnum. I own one and it is what I originally had listed but reading up I found that it was a .357. I will double check.

== RE:Frackyou ==
I saw on the Mail Call discussion page and was wondering what was the Taunting User Name? Oh and P.S. I hate little F***ers who do that to. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Twilight actors ==
WTF? Why do we have Actor pages for them didn't use any guns? Who even pu them up their? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==Deleted Article Question==
As an administrator I was hoping you could answer a question I had regarding some deleted articles. I noticed recently that the Television pages for ''American Dad'', ''Family Guy'', and ''The Simpsons'' had all been deleted. This seemed logical as animated programs such as these may not provide detailed enough images of firearms to definitively say what weapons the images were supposed to represent making these pages rather out of place on this website. However I noticed that the article for ''[[King of the Hill]]'' still exists which has better animation quality, yet still seems to have some of the issues as other animated pages. In addition, there are many other articles mostly on older video games and some animated works that have these problems. Why is it some questionable articles are deleted while others remain? I am not complaining about the decisions made, I am just curious about the process that leads to an articles deletion.
:-Anonymous

== True Lies ==

Thanks, and sure. I don't know why the widescreen for that movie is like that, same thing happens to [[Armageddon]], and [[Broken Arrow]]. If you can get better screenshots, then sure, go for it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Public Enemies ==

Fantastic new caps from ''[[Public Enemies]]''! I'm definitely going for the first day it comes out, I'm a huge Mann fan as well (since you said it, I figure it won't sound as bad if I did haha) and I did a report on Dillinger in 7th grade and I've been fascinated with all that since then. I sure hope my teachers weren't worried about me after that :-/ Anyway, especially good call identifying the .38 Super M1911A1 machine pistol that Dillinger used. I'm really glad Mann used that, as neither of the other Dillinger films I've seen had it! If only there was a way we could share duties capping that when it's out on DVD. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 04:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:Haha, thanks I appreciate it! I'm sure I'll get a ton of good shots but you always add so much to the pages that as I'm putting them on, you'll have valuable input to help. I'll be watching both the 1945 and 1973 Dillinger movies the night before, I guess to try and make it my own kind of marathon? Had you seen either, I definitely recommend the '73 version especially with Warren Oates and the great John Milius directing it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::One book that does a great job is the ''Public Enemies'' book written by Bryan Burroughs, it covers Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, and the Barker-Karpis Gang. Really a very interesting book with a ton of stuff if you're looking to check some of the accuracy of the movie. I read the script actually (a few months ago so it'd still be pretty fresh) and I think they took a few liberties with ''who'' was involved with the gang and when they were captured/died/etc., but with things like that it might progress the story in their favor to have it play out a different way. I'm just glad that PE will be featuring a wide variety of guns as well. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Also, happy birthday! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Vacancy ==

Thanks for all corrections to the page. I use to put the Screencaps in that way because first I showing good the main actor with the weapon and then the others. But I have no problem to applied the caps in a different way.

== CODWAW ==
Finally done! Tell me what you think. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==Ad Question==
I noticed the wide variety of new advertisers on this site. I am slightly confused over some of the new sponsers. While many of the ads are not surprising, I have seen ads promoting cosmetics and high-heeled shoes. Are these people unaware of the demographic this site caters to or are the ads simply generated randomly.
:-Anonymous

== RE: New profile picture ==
Quite the badass GM! Don't let anybody tell you akimbo isn't cool. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, if Hugo Weaving is coming at you, it's a good idea to throw out as much lead as you can, eh?
::I'm just yankin' your chain man! ;) --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Anytime you get a bunch of young guys in a group, their IQ goes way down. I've found myself doing dumb things(thankfully not with firearms) while in groups. Good luck with that! --[[Special:Contributions/75.175.64.56|75.175.64.56]] 18:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday ==

Hey GM45, just wanted to say Happy Birthday, I hope you're enjoying it and got everything you wanted. Thanks for your work on AvP by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on [[Gran Torino]], it is a good movie. Awesome work on [[Freddy vs. Jason]] too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
For your help on the Goldeneye/BDA/BDM thing.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's already been done-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I saw that, I edited the BDA pictures back to 600, but they got changed. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::oh yeah, i have a good sized moniter, but those jsut they appear too large.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Don't touch the SEALS page==
I have the screencaps that were left over from the first pass. I just haven't put them on yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Tightrope==
Hey John, I am checking to see if you have the Eastwood movie Tightrope. Let me know as I my need a screencap off of it. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 04:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I will PM you over on the forum for the answer. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: What did you think? ==

First off, I loved it. I feel like Mann really put a lot into this one (as well as the cast/crew, etc., giving credit where it's due of course) but I was incredibly impressed. I feel like they had done extensive research and used that to make the story so good. Like you said, the creative license with Nelson/Floyd/killings during Michigan City jailbreak/etc. may have been wrong but I feel like it did help to move the story forward for viewers not quite as knowledgable to the rest story as people like us ;)

Mann also proved that just because a movie takes place in the 1930s doesn't mean you only need to have 1911s and Thompsons. I noticed a bunch of the guns you had, such as the 1903A3s. I didn't get as good a look at the Winchesters, like the one used to wound Dillinger (I think the guy who wounded him in real life was John Shipley but I don't quite recall. I think the Sioux City bank robbery in the film was a mix of Dillinger's three 1934 bank robberies after his escape). I noticed a lot of revolvers, like the Colts you mentioned. I think I saw some with Smith & Wesson grips at one point but I can't remember when it was. I'm sure I'll go again to see it at some point this weekend so I'll be more eagle-eyed. Although I had especially noticed the shot of the Thompson during the Racine robbery and thought "that'd be GREAT for imfdb!" as well as a bunch of other shots. Amazing what this website does for the movie-watching experience haha

I was trying to do some shot-counting but it became difficult for me to sometimes discern who was shooting. But I agree; Bale looked steel-eyed when he was firing his 1911 at Nelson (also I noticed he kicked what looked like a nickel 1911 out of Pretty Boy Floyd's hand; I heard/read that the only nickel 1911s around during that era were the ones chambered in .38 Super. Do you know if this is true?)

Anyway I hope you enjoyed it, I know I certainly did. My friends were a bit confused by who the characters were exactly (which I could understand, Mann went right into the story!) but I was blown away! Another good (but long!) book to pick up if you have the time is a book called DILLINGER by William J. Helmer I believe. It goes very indepth into the story. The last couple summers my friends and I have been working on making our own ''Pretty Boy Floyd'' film but now it's gonna be pretty tough to avoid copying almost directly from PE! Hope I didn't ramble too much here - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

:Now that would be impressive! What all would you need to convert one to resemble, if not operate, like the one Dillinger had? Also I was just remembering the early scene in which Dillinger disassembled the Thompson - do you happen to recall if they showed Depp doing it himself or if they cut to just a set of hands? I'm just curious as to whether or not he had done it himself; Mann seems to make sure his actors are well trained with firearms (notably Cruise in ''[[Collateral]]'' of course). Also, I just found this interesting message board thread while browsing imdb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/board/flat/141781630. Covers a bunch of the accuracy things we were talking about. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Public Enemies==
Hey John, Lets see if I can fill in some of the gaps on this. I restore the weapons for Gibbons Ltd used by John Depp and weapons were also supplied by ISS.
* Johnny Depp's Colt 1911A1's were chambered for .45 ACP blanks they represented the real Dillinger's Colt 38 Supers. As of this time there are no 38 Super weapons or blanks in the industry.
* 1928A1 Thompsons the way we have them listed in everything is an error that I have yet figured out how to resolve. The weapons on the show are whats called a 1928 which is the same externally as a 1921 the difference is internal with a heavier actuator to reduce the cyclic rate of the weapon. The horizontal forends were offered on both 1921 and 1921 models of the Thompson. The 1928A1 is a World War II Thompson that had several shortcut in it to increase production during the war and were built by Savage and Auto Ordnance. The first short cut was no more commercial finish on the weapon then the fins were left of the barrel, The rear sight was changed to stamped L shape and not Cutt's comp was the final mod before production switch to the M1. Also if you notice when I have done pages with a Thompson in it the title is Colt 1921A or 1921 AC. The A is for a Thompson without a Cutt's compensator on it and AC is with a Cutt's. For the show there were Colt 1921's (Same weapon from Indy IV) with 1928 internals, 1928A1's refinished to look like a 1921 (Polished Blued finish) and there were some Thompson hybrids that were built by for the show.
*1903 Colt Pocket Hammer was sent to the production it is unknown if it was used or it was used and the scene was cut.
*Revolvers I know that both the Colt Detectives and Colt Official Police were shipped on the show. I will see if I can help out on the on Saturday when I see the film.
*38 Super Machine Pistol used in the movie was chambered in 9mm blank as 38 Super is not carried by the industry. The weapons was built by ISS for the film.
*BAR these were supplied by Gibbons Ltd and were modified in the Bonny & Clyde configuration by another gunsmith for Gibbons Ltd.

:Hope the answered some of your question by as all things it probably created more. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::John,

::I'm pretty sure that the 1903 Colt Pocket was the gun that Dillinger used for about the last third of the film, in place of the 1911 he had carried earlier. It's the gun he takes with him to the theater and then tries to draw before he gets killed by Purvis and the other agents. I have no idea how accurate this is in real life.

::If some of the guns (including the machine pistol) were supplied by ISS, I might be able to ask my contact at ISS if he can tell me more about that gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Depp had the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammer in the Tucson hotel scene. It was brief as Depp sets it down on the table and you can see the tab for the mag catch. But would need to see it on DVD to be sure. Did see a whole was full of Colt Official Police in the Crown Point jail vault. Also the machine gun out side of Crown Point was a Colt Model 1928 Light Machine Gun. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Oops, sorry, I mis-read what you wrote. But I will e-mail ISS and ask. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

==Hard to kill==

::John,

::I got a question to ask. Do you have ''[[Hard to kill]]'' on DVD? If you do, say so. -[[User:speedfilmltd]]

== FC2 SVD ==

By the looks of things it's a bit of both; the forend has twin holes halfway up like the FPK, but it's shaped like the SVD's and the exposed part of the gas piston is smaller like the SVD's, too; other SVD features are things like the cheek pad, the kink in the fire mode switch as opposed to the AK-like switch on the FPK, and so on. Though the weirdest feature the FC2 SVD has is a duckbill three-point flash suppressor like it's an early M16. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

*Actually, I don't think humour in articles is really a bad thing even for a wiki: [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Humor this] is a good summary of why. Indeed, I think the Payback article is how all our articles should be; describing how the weapons are shown as well as which ones they are is far more informative and fits in with this Wiki's overall principle of educating readers about firearms in movies. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== sound effects ==

Hey I was just wondering if you knew of a good website from which I could download some good firing sound effects for a movie I'm doing/editing. Preferably there would be sounds for a Thompson (with the higher ROF on the earlier models) and a .44-40 Winchester, as well as pistols. I had considered trying to get some sounds from Youtube but they didn't sound crisp enough when I added them to the film. No big deal, but I was just curious if you knew of anything. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re: The Shadow==
Hey John, Thanks for the nice words. The Shadow was my first film working in the Industry so it has a special place in my heart. Those custom built Grizzlies were the loudest pistol I have ever tested. I am going to call the owner of them next week and see if I can get a photo of them for IMFDB. I am uploading a special photo tomorrow I know you will like. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 07:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:The Grizzlies in 45 Win Mag were loud with hearing protection on. The Thompsons used on the set started out as Colt 1921's when Tim Curry was firing them but when we switched to the bridge scene the flash did not appear on camera. The cyclic rate on a 1921 was to just fast enough to not show completely on film so we went to the Colt 1928 Thompson we had on hand and the Colt 1921 became a backup. Also on the bridge scene the actor that fired the Thompson tossed away a Smith & Wesson M&P Snub Nose. On the pistols for the head on shot I would have to check and see if I have the paperwork for those. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Forrest Gump ==
Do it. You're much better than me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Mask 1911 ==
This is true, the only real difference is those cocking serrations. To me it has more features common to the CGNM. Most noticeably is the sight rib, with is a part of the slide. I have yet to see this on any other colt variant with the exception of the AMT Hardballer. It is possible that it's a custom series 70, but it's also a possibility that it's an older custom GCNM.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Well I do not know for sure. I have yet to find information on the older (pre series -70). In the mean time, I think the best thing to do, would be to call it a Custom Match Grade Series '70 Colt, because everything on there lends credence to it being a Match grade firearm. I will look for older models though. What do you think? btw, is it just me or does the second picture look like a commander sized gun? The distance from muzzle to the tip of the frame seems too short for a standard. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

==Layout Format==
Hey John, Go ahead and try it out to see what everyone thinks. It can be changed back by changing a number. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

The Mask

2009-07-06T01:51:34Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Series 70 Gold Cup National Match */

User talk:Gunmaster45

2009-07-06T01:47:39Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Re: The Shadow */

The Mask

2009-07-06T00:48:18Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Series's 70 Gold Cup National Match */

The Mask

2009-07-06T00:48:03Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Custom Colt Mark IV Series 70 */

Browning Auto-5

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RedJedRevolver:

'''The Browning Auto-5 is used by the following actors in the following films and television shows:'''
[[Image:BrowAut5.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Remington Model 11 - 12 Gauge. Note how it lacks a magazine cut-off on the reciever, differentiating it from a genuine Browning A5(This can only be seen on the left side of the receiver on the A-5).]]

== Film ==

* [[Sean Connery]] as James Bond in ''[[Thunderball]]''

* a thug in ''[[Magnum Force]]''

* seen inside a gun case in ''[[Any Which Way You Can]]''

* a thug in ''[[The Cotton Club]]''

* Willis Newton ([[Matthew McConaughey]]) and Dock Newton ([[Vincent D'Onofrio]]) in ''[[The Newton Boys]]''

* a deputy in ''[[O Brother, Where Art Thou?]]''

== Television ==

* [[James Best]] as Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane on ''[[The Dukes of Hazzard (TV series)|The Dukes of Hazzard]]''

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Shotgun]]

Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

2009-07-03T17:29:19Z

RedJedRevolver: /* New AK */

== Brazillian Militia? ==

They better make the main character waste the militia alongside the Brazilian Army or the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOPE/ BOPE] or i am not buying it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

==Guns from the new teaser==
This SMG looks like a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Special Weapons MP-10 and SP-10|Heckler & Koch MP-10]].
[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Special Weapons MP-10 and SP-10|Heckler & Koch MP-10]]]]
[[Image:MW2teastrail1.png|thumb|none|400px|I thought it was a MP5K but if we look closer, it doesn't seem to be one.]]
:It could be a K with the forward grip removed? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

looks like an MP5 with a tactical end-cap, kinda like the end cap on the MP5K. no idea why there's a 15 round magazine though
[[Image:MW2teastrail2.png|thumb|none|400px|And this one looks like a UMP but the the silhouette isn't exactly the same (maybe the model of the game was not loaded enough).]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:It definitely resembles a UMP, it probably has rails on the handguard, as well as the front sight removed, as they did in the last game ~[[user:Revolver|Revolver]]

The one in the first picture is I think a Special Weapons MP-10. Check it out at the bottom of the mp5 page.
::The forearm doesn't look as large as the MP-10 though... everything else looks like a MP-10 indeed.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
The two guns look similar minus the stock and clip. I could be wrong but I'm sure that if it isn't a special weapons mp-10 then it is an UMP.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
:Magazine goddamit![[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
What's wrong with saying clip? It means the same thing.
:.. Uh, no. It's not. A 'clip' is the device that loads a magazine. You either use it to load your detachable magazines, or you carry the clips to load the fixed magazine in your rifle (on old rifles). You don't carry 'clips' around any more. They're two different things. It's like saying rim and tyre mean the same thing. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] 12:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard that before. I can see where clip comes from stripper clip that they used in rifles. Everyone around me says clip and mag is interchangeable but people use mag more often. If it really bothers you that much then I'll just say mag then.
[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Special Weapons MP-10 9x19mm]]
The second one looks like an UMP. I'm pretty sure we're dealing with two guns here.
::Yeah but there is no rear sight on the one in the screenshot, and it's disturbing me... maybe they took it away because of the Red Dot on it.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually if you look closely that kinda square shape towards the back of the gun is the iron sight so it's pretty much an UMP with what looks like an ACOG. If you're talking about the front sight for the UMP which does appear to be missing, remember that they removed the front sights from the M4/M16 when you attach a sight even though that's not standard.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch UMP .45 ACP]]
[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

I've got a clearer shot of the weapon thanks to a friend :)
[[Image:MW2MP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 17:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

==what AK is this?==
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=2&newsid=20387
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=4&newsid=20387
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=5&newsid=20387

In the first image I can see that it has a waffle magazine. In the second image I can see that a muzzle brake is present, and in the last image I can see what appears to be a Tapco Intrafuse AK-47 Handguard. So what is it? Oh and it appears to have a synthetic stock. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.253.21|72.133.253.21]] 21:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== Guns from the trailer ==
[[Image:MW2brazil.png|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL or Imbel MD-3 (brazilian variant of the FAL)?]]
I hope it's an FAL. You barely ever see them in video games-S&Wshooter
:Me too. I love fals. And the gun above looks like a IMBEL MD2. Heres the wikipedia article: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMBEL_MD2]. Note how it has a STANAG Magazine like the MD2.I also love how ridiculous looking the Brazilian gang members are.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::rather MD-3 isn't it? Since it hasn't a foldable stock.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 18:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah without the folding stock it is a MD3.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::::However, the gun's long barrel looks more like a FAL... ahh sh*t! This fuc*ing game is driving me mad, every guns don't look exactly the same as their originals^^--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:I think there are Imbel MD2s or MD3s with the regular barrel.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, there are no Imbel MD3s with regular barrels. It's most likely a design error by the developters.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
(comment: It better be a FAL. I'm getting tired of M4's, M16's, AK's and G36's. I want to be able to use a gun ingame that in't too small for me in real life.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]])
:I agree. the game better have G3s and IMI galils. I also love the fact that is a Brazilian made Fal. You don't see those in movies.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:I also want a MG3 or some kind of big, dumb machine gun chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO. Machine guns chambered to 7.62 tear shit up.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
: Hell yeah man! Thats exactly what I'm saying. I would also like to see some more bolt action jobs that aren't crappy( DSR-1, Enfield Enforcer, Steyr SSG) in video games- [[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::''This would probably be the IMBEL MD-2 (folding stock) or MD-3 (fixed stock) which is manufactured locally in Brazil. The weapons are based, pretty much, on the FAL with the exception that they fire a 5.56 round'' [[User:Charon68|Charon68]]
:::And are fed from STANAG Magazines and have different handguards.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:I'm tired of .223 guns. I would like to see a FAL, M14 or G3 that isn't emasculated (made innacurate, weak or make ammo for it scarce)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]]
::I want a M14 that is not tricked out with rails like the one in Call of Duty 4. I want a M14 like the one below:
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A real M14.]]
I do like the Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR rifle though. I also want A M16A4 that doesn't fire on Full Auto and a AK-74. AK-74s don't get enough love.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::CoD 7 will be about Vietnam War according to rumours, maybe they'll put in one.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 19:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::And smaller conflicts in africa. I hope they also put atleast one level that takes place in the portuguese colonial war.
[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Now i think the FAL above may be a FN FAL with rails on the handguards and a 30 round magazine but i think it's too curved and big to be 7.62x51mm NATO.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:06, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:MW2smg.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2Brazilpistol2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2Brazilpistol.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 16:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

*A Kriss Super V?
Cool. The pistol is a Desert Eagle, by the way.-protoAuthor
:I think the pistol is a Jericho 941 since it's too small to be a desert eagle.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::No, it's an Eagle. Check out the ejection port.
:::''I concur. It's not terribly visible, but there's that familiar slide mounted safety in both shots. It appears to be a totally game-created custom finish though - the barrel and the underlying section of the frame (where the gas pistons are housed) look to be blued and the grips and the rest of the frame looks silver. On a couple of related notes, wow at the graphics - I took these for pictures of the developers testing out their guns at first - and wow at the handling of the Desert Eagle by this guy. Usually in these games, you see handguns being handled only somewhat compentently at best. This guy looks like he sleeps with the damn thing.'' ---[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Also, take note of the sound it makes when it fires. Exact same sound as the Desert Eagle in CoD4.

== The machine gun ==
I think the machine gun that the russian terrorists are using is a M240.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think it's a M249 SAW, the M240 (GP Machine gun) is bigger.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 18:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Could it possibly be a Mk. 46?
:Makes sense since most of the guns are special forces guns.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
==New AK==
[[Image:AKMW2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
I think its just an amped up AK-47. It has an AR-15 stock, waffle magazine, and has a synthetic handguard.
Found a similar image:
[[Image:Ak-47-weapon-accessories-desert-colourb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[User:Rock and Metal|Rock and Metal]] 22:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Good god, look what they did to that AK! That's just horrible. I hope the AK in the game isn't like that.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::I watched the trailer again. I am sure that i saw a AK with a AK-74 style flash hider.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe a AK-101 since NATO forces use 5.56mm.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think it could be a AK-74M or just a AK-74 since the russian army might make a apparence and they need to arm the russian soldiers.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I said "NATO forces"--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 22:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC) because the one having it in the screenshot is Soap... well, maybe or surely, he captured because he had a M14 at the beginning.
::Well...the game's plot is a about a Uber badass special forces unit that works alone and is headed by our buddy Soap up there. So, i guess the badass special forces unit is not part of NATO.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Neither AK-101 or AK-74, the magazine in the image holds 7.62x39mm. [[User:Rock and Metal|Rock and Metal]] 00:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Maybe theres the tricked out AK up there and the AK-74 style AK.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, seems like we won't know until we'll have a level walkthrough with the name of the weapon in it...--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 15:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::I saw the Gameplay videos and i saw two different AKs. One with a AKM style muzzle brake and another one with a AK-74 style flash hider. Maybe we can build guns from the ground up? like, you can have a AK-47 with a kobra sight, snow camo, fires 7.62x39mm and has a AK-74 flash hider?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
*It's gotta be an AKM.
::Why the fuck it would be an AKM? It looks like an AK-74M or one of the AK-100 series.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Well it has ribbing on the top of the reciever, like the AKM, but the indentation I cannot clearly see. It could be like in Farcry 2, where it has the Ak-47 receiver with some AKM parts, and I used AKM because the 100 series are developments on the AKM, understand? So AK-47 is incorrect.
::::But the AK-10X series were developments on the AK-74M. Also, sign you posts.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well technically the modernizations start with the AKM, I see it as the break off point of the AK series. Ak-74 was designed from the AKM, and so on and so on, but that doesn't matter, yeah it could be the 100 series, but my point is its not an AK-47. Also lacks the flash hiders of the 74 and 100s. But I think it's a frankenAK-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::I think the AK-74 flashider can be seen when in first person. Like how in the first Modern Warfare, The first person model of the M4 had an grip on the handguard but the world model didn't have a grip. I also think it's an frankengun or it may be an AK that the player can build. Like in hitman: Blood Money.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't think so on the 74, but I think we can agree in the meantime it is not an AK-47 so we should change the heading accordingly, evidence shows it is a modernized variant so we could say a Kalashnikov in the heading and have notations that it is a modernized variant.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== Unrealeted ==
Ok, i know this has nothing to do with the game or releted to guns but, i was reading the Modern Warfare 2 thread on the Something Awful forums and they were calling the Brazilian gangters africans. What the fuck? and they seen to think the scenes in Rio De Janeiro are set in Africa. What the motherfuck? it offends me that people are dumb enough to ignore the line "he's got a contact in rio" and Christ the Redeemer and the huge mountains with favelas full of illiterate drug dealers and the Brazilian made Imbel MD-3.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:What do you expect? It's Something Awful!

To be fair all the favela gangsters that are seen so far are Afro-Brazilians, even if there are plenty of gang members of all races in real life. With so many games having levels in destroyed urban areas in Africa it's not surprising that some people would get a Black Hawk Down style vibe from the pictures.

Personally I hate something Awful as they break their own rules on posting. One member has a post on there with my first and last names and it's a bloody poison pen hitpeice. I asked the frigging syop to remove the shit and he laughed at me. Personally I find the site the home of a bunch of elitist idiots who have at least one member dumb enough to set the fuel line for a weilding torch on fire.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 19:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, i like something awful but you have to be really dumb not to see the Christ the redeemer.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Hopes For New Game==

Want a little realism and some weapons like standard battle rifles not all trick out with rails. Hoping russians have ak-74s and makarovs or that new 9x19 pistol they developed, not ak47s. Militias and gangs should have a mix of guns, not all berettas and 1911s. A makarov, cz-75, hk or two, glock, model 19 smiths.....just variety.

What the fick is an "akarov"? Lol-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Makarov, a 9x18mm pistol that has been issued in several variants to the russian military. Come on, seriously, sticky keys some things are mspelled.

I knew that. I was just kidding-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the brazilians should use taurus and stoeger guns too, that would be realistic. And the militia should have some sxs coach guns and taurus revolvers, you know, the non tatcticla stuff. And psitols should be portrayed as hard to shoot, not coming back exactly on target after each round and it should wobble a bit while aiming.
:The Brazilian gangsters are using tricked out guns with rails. At least the IMBEL MD-3 up there has a Eotech reflex sight and what looks like rails on the handguards but they could be the regular MD-3 hand guard. We know the AKs are going to be tricked out as fuck like the image above but i think i saw a AK-74 that was not tricked out. I hope they have a AK-74.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1200==

We all know the 1200 is old and not used since vietnam. The 1300 is used. Would it be safe to say these are mis-named winchester 1300s? Or is it more video game nonsense?
:The 1200 in this game is the same 1200 from Modern Warfare 1 so it's safe to say that the Winchester is a 1200 even though is pretty retarded to militarys still be using the 1200 today.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt the 1200 was ever made in this configuration.
:Me too but it is a video game and video game developters are pretty retarded when it comes to guns. Still, this and COD4 have the best Gun porn in video game history atleast by now.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Alright ==
Alright you son-of-a-bitches there's a gameplay video in gametrailers. It's pretty low quality but some new guns were seen, including the gun with the heartbeat sensor and some others. Now, i don't know how to screencap trailers so someone else will have to do it.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Here they come:
[[Image:MW2AR1.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2AR2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
YOU FOOL! It's "sons-of-bitches". That's a pretty awesome-looking cap, though.-protoAuthor
:Thanks for the correction. I am sure Soap and Roach we using AKs with AK-74 flash hiders. Anyone have any idea what kind of AKs were those?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::Oliveira, do you think you could post a link of the trailer for me, please? Thanks so much. --[[User:Blemo|Blemo]] 04:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Which trailer?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

== gameplay demo ==

did anyone see the new gameplay demo for Modern Warfare 2
it showed "Roach"(main protagonist) with a IMBEL MD-3 with a dot sight and a...radar
im not good with gun attachments but is there really a radar attatchment?
:It's a heartbeat sensor and the gun wasn't a MD-3. it looked like a fictional gun of some sort.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::some says it's a SCAR--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Makes sense since the charging handle is on the right side. But i think the SCAR charging handle is on the left side.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
-It looks like a Sig 556 variant to me - Mythekal

Yeah looks like the sig556 itself thogh, not the military versions? Also, would it be safe to say the glock is a glock 18, no idea how anyone would mistake a full auto as a g22/.

It could just be a fully automatic Glock 22. Gun rules dont necessarily matter to video games - Mythekal
:Mythekal is right. Hell, Modern Warfare 1 had a M16A4 that fired on full auto.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

All that matters is the real weapon that the in-game version is modeled from. Call of Duty 4 had an Aks-74u modeled from an Airsoft gun - Mythekal

I'm starting to think that this rifle could be a Bushmaster ACR, as it shares similar traits, except for the placement of the charging handle - Mythekal

:My thoughts too. The charging handle is consistent to the ACR, but the SCAR has the same kind of charging handle. We can't see the stock and both could accept a thermold mag. So it could be either. I really doubt they make up an entire fiction rifle for the sake of it. Modern Warfare was always all about guns that are real. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

::Though the weird part is, the ACR has a slide release right next to the trigger, similiar to the XM8. You reload and just press forward with your trigger finger, no need to slap or pull the charging handle. The SCAR has the slide release like the AR-15 rifles, you can just slap it to release, but yet in the gameplay, you don't slap a slide release or push a slide release, you pull the charging handle back. Strange [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It could be a Magpul Masada. It is very similar to the weapon in the videos, and has a charging handle on the right side of the receiver. In the video, the stock has a hinge, indicating a folding stock, which looks almost identical to the Masada. - Mythekal

The rifle also has ambidexterous charging handles - Mythekal

:That sumbitch is most certainly a Masada.

new gameplay vid says it's a silenced ACR with heartbeat sensor.

I think it is a Magpul Masada [[User:Choi117|Choi117]]
:I watched the Gameplay and i'm sure that the gun is a ACR.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

ACR is the masada. Same gun, switched manufacturer.
:Sorry, i didn't know that.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

But the stock is that of the Masada - Mythekal

::ACR man, I know the Masada sounds cooler, but it isn't call that anymore. It's like people still calling the REC 7 a Barret M468 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or any of the M16 series of weapons a AR-15.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well if it's called AR15, you would be referring to the civilian M16 rifles. M16 is a military weapon and an AR-15 isn't. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the pistol is a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18C]]
:Most likely since it was firing on Full auto.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::It was pointed out that the firing rate wasn't the same speed as a real [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]], but it could be that the developers couldn't quite get the slide and sound speed for a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]]. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or it could be a [[Glock]] firing on semi-automatic. [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::::That little fucker fires fast if its semi auto (pardon my language)
:::::Who ever put the screenshot on the page forgot to remind that the frame color is (tan) "Olive Drab". [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18's]] did not have this color available. [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22's]] just came out with this color somewhere in 2008. Of course I still wouldn't rule out it could be a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] with a replaced frame. But the writers probably wanted to put a new FBI (.40S&W) caliber into their Video Game arsenal.

==Weapons-trailers==

Been seeing trailers online annoncing weapons and perks. How much cred do they have? Theres no footage to back it up, bt several announced weapons are in the screenshots. They also list the 110 SASR, L85, L85 mg version, etc.
:Weapon trailers? Where the hell can i find those? They could be really useful for the article.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Youtube, theres a "weapons" one that just lists guns, and a weapons and perks thing, the perks it actually ahs proof from the original teaser.

:I wouldn't trust any of those youtube bull. One said there might be an XM8 in the game. I hope it does not. That's one more step towards having all the guns Rainbow Six have. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::Those videos are pure speculation. I'm sure those are all bullshit. We will only document weapons that are confirmed by the developters and seen in gameplay.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Hbar? ==
I don't want to offend anyone but, what the motherfuck is a Hbar?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Its the Heavy barreled variant of the Aug meant to be a squad based machine gun - Mythekal

:Hbar could also be refering to anything really. Heavy barrel anything. I've seen plenty of AR-15 variants in movies with Hbars. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::[http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211390/?hd=1&tag=live-schedule] Sometime when the player passes over ennemies' corpses, he can take their weapons. One of them (the other is often a FA-MAS) is a AUG. There is four letter after it, a H at the beginning and I don't see well the other 3. But there is only one variant of the AUG with a "H" in its name, and that's the HBar.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Could someone upload a image of the icon in the above video? The link isn't working for me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I just watched the E3 gameplay again. The AUG HBAR pick up symbol looks amazingly like the SA80 British service rifle. Might be a place holder or something.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

:I made a note of it in the actual page. It DOES look like an SA80 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::My money's on a mislabel. We know the standard AUG is confirmed (all those screenshots) so why not the HBAR too?--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

::If you pause it right before you kill the guy who carried it it's an AUG. So therefore its a mislabel. (I wish I can upload the screenshot but dun know how.)
:::Sign you posts for christ's sake.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
== Correct Name ==
I think we should call this game Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 instead of just [[Modern Warfare 2]] because we have a entire alphabetized series of Call Of Duty in the Video Games Category and just putting this in the "M" section does not look we even have this page. If somebody knows how to put this in the "C" section with out changing the name that will be organized.

:Well that's the problem. Originally it WAS called Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and some still do, but officially, the publishers decided to shorten the title for some reason. We COULD for alphabetize sake, put Call of Duty in front so it fits with the others. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:And I've successfully changed the name [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

::Wait, I thought the reason that this was called Modern Warfare 2 was because Infinity Ward no longer wanted to make any more WWII related games and as such gave the "Call of Duty" moniker to Treyarch. Modern Warfare is supposedly now a separate series from Call of Duty. [[User:Markit|Markit]]
:Modern Warfare is its own series now and isn't a CoD game anymore.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::Or we could make a new "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" page which bring it here.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::[[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, this game is still being published by Activision that published the previous game. It is STILL apart of the Call of Duty franchise, they just chose to officially call this game just Modern Warefare 2. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Keep it modern warfare 2, but link them together, like GM did linking all the dirty harry movies together.

== Taskforce 141 = Rainbow Six ==

A multinational commando unit? The moment I read that, I immediately thought Rainbow and well we really can't complain what kinds of weapons these guys uses since they are a fictional unit like Rainbow so they can use whatever they want. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:I was expecting the task forece to be from the UN. That would be cool.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::But if they say they are are UN taskforce makes the team sound kinda...pointless Like the UN does anything. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I though Rainbow Six was a UN Task Force? Anyway, a movie or televison series about a UN Uber badass task force that were formed to catch international criminals would be really cool. The problem with the UN is that they try to be neutral and being neutral doesn't do anything. The UN should be reformed to be more of a International police that works against international criminals and make international laws.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I like the UN the way it is. What you're talking about sounds like the first step to a totalitarian society.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
:What i'm talking about is stuff like Resolution 84. I also like the UN the way it is but, they fail at quick responses to genocide such as the Rwandan Genocide in 1994.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
In general they fail at mostly any response. They just don't have the power to back up their enforcement of peace. Any peace keeping force with too much power can be oppressive. Who will keep the peace keepers in check when they're suppose to keep us in check? Quite the dilemma. I just don't think the idea of the U.N. or anything similar can work.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

:The United States shall keep the UN in check, without US, there is no UN. They need us more than we need them. It might seem like typical arrogant American mentality, but from how things are, the US has more indirect influence and handle over the entire world. We are the world's insurance policy, the self proclaimed enforcer, guardian, peacekeeping super power despite all our internal problems with crime, money and other things, but because of our population and how relatively young our nation is, the intense diversity in culture and believes keeps us in check. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
::The Problem is when someone like Bush Jr. comes up and fucks everything up. Could you imagine having someone like him being President of The United States during the Cold War? Anyway, The UN did have a really good quick response to the North Korean invasion of South Korea. We almost had North Korea. If weren't for the goddamm chinese.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
: Yeah if it weren't for them all this Kim Jong Il shit wouldn't be happening and we wouldn't be about to go to war in Korea-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hey Smith, if someone is at fault for not winning the Korean War and not having only one Korea, is Mao. Truman also kinda fucked up by telling the 7th Fleet to enter the Taiwan Straits.

== More weapons comfirmed ==

It seems that p90 is making a return and spas 12 will also be ingame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFKBEQoSpu8
:That guy got a lot of the guns wrong and that AUG Hbar looked more like a SA80 to me. And what the hell is up the people thinking that the FAL in the trailer is a AK? It looks nothing like it!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

:Well, most people are unaware of all the different kinds of firearms. I'm surprise this guy in the vid ID as much as there was. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== CPT. Price ==
I hope we get to find out if CPT. Price from CoD4 survived or not. That's been bugging me... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:I think it would cheapen the ending of Modern Warfare 1 if he survived.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

How would that cheapen the ending of the first game? It was never clear if any of the team's survived. What about the Mile High Club mission where you hear Price and Gaz talk? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:Gaz got shot in the face with a Desert Eagle, he's dead.-protoAuthor

Captain Price leads the Task Force in this game!

No, Soap leads the Task Force

Soap does sound kind of similar to Cpt. Price. I guess Price rubbed off on him a little or something.

*Price managed to last for sixty years without ageing, dying or trimming his moustache, so I can't see a little thing like being shot dead getting to him. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 10:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well...I would like if he came back right at the end and save Soap and Roach. But, he better have a even glourious moustache.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, recalling CoD1 a little more, Price has ''already'' died once in the series. He was shot dead on board the ''Tirpitz'' and you just left him there, only for him to turn up again in CoD2 apparently none the worse for it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Didn't COD2 take place before COD1?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Can't remember, to be honest, I didn't play it that much; I was busy being an Annoyed PC Gamer because they took away my quicksaves, fire modes and health packs and replaced them with Not Being Killed Grenades [throw one to not be killed by that machinegun!]. Still, this is his second death in the series, so I wouldn't expect it to cramp his style much. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 12:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:Gaz and Griggs got wasted though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The Cpt. Price in CoD 1 and 2 is a diffrent Price, most probably grandfather. And it is unsure if Price died or if he got promoted and got a higher position...

*Oh come on, it's either a clone or the same guy, they just came up with that when people started seriously questioning an extremely silly off-hand reference. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't talk about something you don't know sh¤t about... [http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Price_(Call_of_Duty_4)] the two Cpt. Price are two diffrent guys

*Two different, totally identical guys. It's an elaborate cover story to hide that Price is invincible and immortal. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 11:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:Captain Price is a symbol representing the glourious British Military. Ok, he is just a tradition for the Guys at Infinity Ward but it would be really cool if he was a symbol.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
:Hes dead a russian medic was seen trying to revive him but failed an started bashing his chest

==General Observations==
Though I freely admit I got wood watching this trailer one thing I noticed is that the guys from ''Infinity Ward'' seemed to have recycled some scenery. When they showed the guys running through the alleyways of Rio I swear it reminded me of the alleyways of the Arab capital the Marines run through in [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]].

:Not really. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== The New pictures ==
Could someone tell me where did that picture of the american soldier with the M4 came from?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:http://www.modernwarfare247.com/news/special-ops-characters --[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 17:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Jesus Christ, is the weapons section of that website all kinds of fucked up. Thet called an FN-FAL a G3 and they called an AK-74 a AK-47. What the motherfuck? At least that means that we, IMFDB members, have the best website documenting weapons in Modern Warfare 2. But still, what the motherfuck?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
== TAR-21 or F2000? ==
[[Image:MW2TR6.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|A Brazilian Militia firing the unknown rifle, presumably a[[FN F2000#FN F2000 Tactical|FN F2000 Tactical]]]]
Isn't it a TAR-21 rather than a F2000?--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's way too big to be a Tavor. Most likely an F2000.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah... the form is rather an F2000 too...--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:My question is where the fuck is the scope?-[[Special:Contributions/76.31.5.208|76.31.5.208]] 15:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)
::There is an version of the FN2000 that has the scope replaced with rails. I guess that's the one in the picture above.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Whats that under the F2000? Its too skinny to be an M203, I think its a shotugn--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 03:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Looks like an Remington 870.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
How the hell would they fit a shotgun/Masterkey on the three inches of forward rails that the F2000 has? More like a shotgun with an F2000 attachment, rather than the other way around.--[[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 18:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well it definetly looks to be a shotgun, however it's mounted on there.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== MP7? Are you sure? ==

Where do you exactly see MP7?

I only see custom MP5 (or MP5k without foregrip) on the right and two copies of another unidentified weapons on the left.
They have curved magazines where MP7 has foregrip and their casing is completly different.
MP7 doesn't match...
[[User:Morihaus|Morihaus]] 17:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Morihaus

== FAL Please ==

I know one of the screenshots show's what appears to be an MD-2, but I still wanan see a FAL in MW2. I'm getting annoyed by G36Cs and M16s and G3KA4s in all these games. The FAL was a true combat rifle, and I do has want (sorry for net speak)--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 20:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: I absolutely agree with the above statement-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Me too but, the MD-2 is good enough for me. And it is Brazilian! That makes me proud of being Brazilian.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: I like the Imbel also, its a pretty solid gun-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Which Imbel? Imbel is the manufacturer.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Their FAL copy with the fixed stock (it's the only one I've held)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Those are just called FN FALs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The Imbel is great and all, but the FAL is a solid 7.62 rifle. Also, I noticed they're using the AUG A1, not A3 for MW2. I'm pleased with that as the original AUG model was always my favorite.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 22:08, 26 June
2009 (UTC)

== XM8!!!!!! ==

Dear god no, someone is saying an XM8 is in this game?! Is there no GOD!? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:I don't even know where those non-confirmed guns came from. Did they come from those youtube videos about the game's weapons?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
: There better not be an XM8.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 15:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::The XM8 is a piece of fucking shit so it better not be in this game.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I have to agree. The XM8 is overused in games as it is, and it sucks shit. It couldn't even stand up to the M4A1 or M16A4 in US Army testing for christ's sakes!--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::At least it was better than those fucking Air Burst rifles. I can't fucking believe most NATO countries though that would work. Just look at those things! They look like something outta a fucking Anime!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the air burst idea was a massive fail. and remember the OICW program? A multishot grenade launcher and IR scope attached to a rifle, and they wanted a single soldier to carry all that?--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 17:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::At least the XM25 is working.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Guys, chill out, will ya? If you want some enlightenment, the XM8 competed in a "dust test" with the M4A1, HK416, and the SCAR-L, and scored lowest number of stoppages [http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/12/army_carbine_dusttest_071217/]. Here's the score:

XM8: 127 Stoppages
M4: 882 Stoppages
HK416: 233 Stoppages
SCAR-L: 226 Stoppages

The M4 was outperformed by the HK416, SCAR, and XM8, but the army is still standing by the M4A1. Read the article that I've linked to to learn more. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:The M4 is still superior since stoppages don't mean anything.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

:: Actually: It does. The US Army and you can say what you want, 80% of the soldiers do have confidence in the weapon, but the M4A1 still has some problems that the remaining 20% complain about.

1. The handguards can rattle and can become very hot when fired.

2. There can be difficulty zeroing the M68 reflex sight.

3. The rifle has had double-feeding issues, jamming, and feeding problems with the magazine.

55% of Soldiers have also complained that the weapon is too heavy, and want it to be made lighter, and 20% want a bigger magazine. Have you even fired one? Because your statement seems a fit unfounded if you have nothing to support your claim.-[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:No i never fired one because here in Brazil, weapons for civilian use were banned in the entire country. However, i did read Wikipedia's entire article on the M16 and its varients and the M4. And the M4 even when it's loaded, weights a mere 3.1 kilograms.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
*Out of all the weapons tested, I much prefer the SCAR, and so do US Special Forces as they're adopting it already--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 03:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
: Lets hope that the military will ditch the M4/M16 for a Battle Rifle like the SCAR-H or an FAL derivative (Maybe the shorty DSA model) so the troops can use a more effective bullet, cuz that 5.56 BS isn't cutting it-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think they could just rechamber most of the M4s and M16s to 6.8 mm Remington SPC. I don't know if that would be a easy thing to do though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Well Barrett did build the M468/ Rec-7 for the military, but they rejected it. Why not just buy some Rec-7s? But really, I've always thought the 7.62 NATO round was a much better bullet. And a the DSA stubby wouldn't be a bad carbine to use either.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:7.62 rounds give way too much recoil. I still say the 5.56 NATO and 6.8 SPC is still better than 7.62 NATO. You know what? The M4 and M16s don't need to be replaced. There, i said it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

::At a glance it does seem very simple to solve the M4 problems, swap ammo with 6.8, jamming mags? Get better ones, make it lighter, etc. But it is a pretty hard process to replace a standarize weapon that's been in service for so long that it's engraved into American military mentality. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:::It still a prototype so back the fuck off, M4s piss and moan like a freakin baby they're only good for SWAT if an AK got a shell in the barrel it would still fire, never have an M4 in the desert.
::If you are talking about the XM8, the XM8 ''was'' a prototype. Fortunately, it was cancelled in 2005. The American troops that are in the shit, like the M4 and the M16A4. And they are the ones in the desert. The problems with the magazines could be fixed by replacing the unrealible STANAG magazines with the P-MAG magazines and making bigger magazines that could store more rounds. We don't need to replace the M4 and the M16 because of problems that could be easily fixed. The same thing can be applied to the M249 replacement program.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
== TDI "Kriss" ==
I know the Kriss is going to be hyped in MW2, as its a powerful .45 ACP SMG that has virtually no recoil and great accuracy. But the guys at IW won't let such a perfect gun into multiplayer, because it'll turn into a noob weapon fast. My bet's on that they purposely change one of it's stats to make it more balanced. Any guesses on what they'll take away from it? My bet is make it less powerful.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:There IS recoil in the Kriss. Every gun has recoil.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::True, but it varies what the recoil force actually ''does'' and how much of it the user feels; the recoil has to go somewhere, but it can be towards things like fighting the gun's own muzzle climb by shoving a weight downwards [as with the Kriss], stopping a barrel that's moving forwards [as with the XM307 / XM312], or quite a number of other things. The general idea is that the Kriss has very light felt recoil for its weight [less than half the weight of a Thompson] because of the novel operating system. And I imagine they'll either limit the magazine, turn it into a peashooter or make it horribly inaccurate. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 02:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or Infinity Ward could make the Kriss a Kicking Rad gun that you will get when you reach the highest level. An all around gun.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::::What about the Rate of Fire? i don't remember if the Kriss had a high R.O.F. or not
:::::From the Future Weapons video I watched on the Kriss, it seems to have an average MP5 like rate of fire. But if IW does let the Kriss go all out, it'll be revenge of the pwned when people get a hold of it. Take that noob tubers! Have some .45 slugs in the face!--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hey man, the noob tube is awesome.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

::People who hates tubers are just gamers. Sure I get pissed off when I get hit in the face by an M203, but hell, I use one too. It's a very good field weapon. In combat, there is no such thing as cheap shot. There's hit and miss. Even in games, if you killed a guy, it's a kill, doesn't matter how you did it, unless you used cheats, but I use the M203 all the time, and 2 shells is what you get in multiplayer, so quit complaining, those on the recieving end of my tube. Now the P90 was a widely used gun for noobs cause of it's high ROF and mag capacity and with the slight of hand perk, you can reload the bastard faster than you could in real life[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== HK416? ==

Possible HK416-

The SAS guy with the Mohawk & Glock @ 0:30 of the reveal trailer seems to carry something resembling an HK416 (Notice the rear H&K hallmark diopter sights...).
--[[User:Wikinerd|Wikinerd]] 15:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==FN P90==
Why haven't anyone added the P90? It has been confirmed and in the E3 trailer there was a pickup icon for the P90 and it said "Press # to ick up P90"
:Did you miss [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Modern_Warfare_2#FN_P90TR this?]-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Cowboy Bebop

2009-07-03T01:36:34Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Thompson Center Arms Contender */

'''The following weapons are seen in the anime ''Cowboy Bebop'':'''

[[Image:Cowboybebopposter.jpg|thumb|right|400px|]]

== Jericho 941 ==

Spike Spiegel's signature pistol is a IMI [[Jericho 941]] on which he has installed custom grips.

[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|300px|none|IMI Jericho 941 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Spike_Jericho_941.gif|thumb|none|500px|Spike aiming his Jericho]]
[[Image:SpikeJericho.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spike's Jericho in the Opening]]
[[Image:SpikeJericho2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SpikeJericho3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Glock 30 ==

Faye's signature pistol in ''Cowboy Bebop'' is a .45 ACP [[Glock#Glock 30|Glock 30]]. Despite her often fiery temper, she rarely draws it, though in one episode can be heard firing it off-screen when Spike goes to confront her while she's using the shower aboard the ''Bebop'', eliciting an amused reaction from Jet. Faye most notably uses it in the final episode, "Real Folk Blues", to shoot out the tires of a car belonging to Red Dragon Syndicate members chasing after Julia and again holding it on Spike when questioning why he's going to face Vicious, firing several rounds into the ceiling of the ''Bebop'' in frustration when she fails to talk him out of it.

[[Image:Glock30.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Glock 30 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:FayeV.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Faye Valentine with her Glock 30.]]
[[Image:CBBFayeglock.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Faye catches a bounty offguard with her Glock 30]]
[[Image:CBBFayeglock2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Faye surprises another bounty with her Glock 30]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5K ==

In Faye's debut episode, she uses a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]] with a 15-round magazine to defend herself from the mobsters she was trying to escape, though is forced to surrender when she finds herself outgunned. It is also used by Red Dragon Syndicate henchmen in "The Real Folks Blues".

[[Image:MP5KA4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K 9mm with 15-round magazine]]
[[Image:FyaeMP5K.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Faye loading an MP5K]]
[[Image:Fayemp5k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Faye firing an MP5K]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5 ==

[[Image:CBBmp5.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

== Hand Held GE M134 Minigun ==

In Faye's debut episode, the mobsters that capture her force her to surrender when they respond to her MP5K barrage by returning fire with a [[GE M134 Minigun#Hand Held M134 Minigun|hand held GE M134 Minigun]], decimating the Chinese pharmacy she was in but amazingly harming none of the human occupants.

[[Image:Minigun 2.JPG|thumb|none|350px|Handheld M134 Minigun 7.62x51mm NATO with 'Chainsaw grip']]

== Walther P99 ==

Jet Black's signature pistol is a [[Walther P99]]. Of all the gun-wielding members of the ''Bebop'''s crew, Jet is perhaps the least likely to be seen with his weapon drawn.

[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P99 9mm]]
[[Image:Jet_P99.gif|thumb|none|400px|Jet armed with his Walther P99]]

== Colt Single Action Army ==

Cowboy Andy used a pair of [[Colt Single Action Army]] revolvers as his main weapons in the episode "Cowboy Funk", keeping with his old west motif. These weapons also appeared in the title sequence of ''Big Shots'', a TV series watched by the protagonists that featured information on various bounties, as well as in the hands of the hosts on occasion.

[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Single Action Army .45 Long Colt "Artillery model" with 5" barrel]]

== MAC-10 ==

In the episode "Gateway Shuffle", a group of environmental terrorists calling themselves the "Space Warriors" can be seen brandishing [[MAC-10#MAC-10|MAC-10]] machine pistols when they assassinate a bounty Spike and Jet had been tracking at a lavish restaraunt. Red Dragon Syndicate members can also be seen with them near the end of the series.

[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Ingram MAC-10 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:CBBMac10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A "Space Warrior" member opens up with a MAC-10]]

== Ruger P89 ==

During the upcoming confrontation with Vicious and his men at the church, Spike stocks up on weapons, one of the weapons he retrieves is a [[Ruger P89]], that he had kept hidden in the fridge of the ''Bebop''. Though it is shown being loaded and cleaned, it is never seen in use on screen.

[[Image:P89.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger P89 9mm (blued finish)]]
[[Image:Spike_and_his_Ruger.gif|thumb|none|400px|Spike checking the P89]]
[[Image:spikeP89loading.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spike loading his Ruger P89]]

== M79 Grenade Launcher ==

When Spike faces Vicious at the church, one of his men fires on him with an [[M79 grenade launcher]], though fails to score a hit and is ultimately killed by Spike. Later on, in the episode: "Mushroom Samba", one of the outlaws (the guy with the Afro) is seen firing an M79 several times during the train chase near the end.In "Cowboy Funk", Cowboy Andy uses what appears to be a customized, or heavely modified M79 during chase scene with Teddy Bomber. The grenade launcher is fitted with a large lever loop, (a-la Terminator 2). During the chase, Andy, (after flip cocking it with one hand) fires it at Spikes ship, and misses, but manages to destroy a great amount in private property before he escaped the scene with Faye, leaving a bewildered Spike, and Teddy Bomber behind.

[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M79 grenade launcher 40mm]]
[[Image:CBBM79.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Red Dragon member aims his M79 grenade launcher at Spike in the church]]

== Mossberg 590 "Compact Cruiser" ==

After witnessing the death of Annie with Julia in the episode "Real Folk Blues", Spike heads to the back of her store to grab a box filled with weapons. One of the weapons he retrieves is a [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 590 "Compact Cruiser"|Mossberg 590 "Compact Cruiser"]]. Spike loads and uses the gun throughout the gun fight that ensues at Annie's store and on surrounding rooftops with Julia before she is shot, at which point Spike drops the Mossberg to be at her side.

[[Image:MossbergCompactCruiser.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mossberg 590 "Compact Cruiser" 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Spike_Shotgun.gif|thumb|none|400px|Spike loading the Mossberg 590]]
[[Image:Spike_shooting_shotgun.gif|thumb|none|400px|Spike firing back at Vicious's men with the Mossberg 590]]

== Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0 ==

In the episode "Pierrot Le Fou", ISSP bodyguards can be seen using [[Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0]] pistols as their sidearms fitted with AN/PEQ-6 Laser Aiming Modules, though are no match for the episode's psychotic title character, all the bodyguards and the high-ranking ISSP official they were charged with protecting being killed.

[[Image:Mk23.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:HKMK23.gif|thumb|none|400px|An ISSP bodyguard draws his Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0]]

== M67 Hand Grenade ==

During Spike's raid on the Red Dragon Syndicate headquarters in the episode "Real Folk Blues", he can be seen using several [[M67 hand grenade]]s, taking out several of Vicious' men with them as he makes his way through the building.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:CBBM67.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spike dumping a bag of M67 hand grenades on the coffee table of the ''Bebop'']]

== Steyr TMP ==

During Spike's raid on the Red Dragon Syndicate headquarters in the episode "Real Folk Blues", Syndicate henchmen can be seen using [[Steyr TMP]] machine pistols, among other weapons.

[[Image:SteyrTMP.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Steyr TMP 9mm]]
[[Image:CBBTMP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Red Dragon Syndicate member dies while firing his Steyr TMP]]

== Heckler & Koch G36 ==

The [[Heckler & Koch G36]] can be seen in the episode "Jupiter Jazz", used by Gren, Vicious, and other soldiers in the flashback.

[[Image:HKG36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch G36 5.56mm]]
[[Image:CBBG36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Gren holds his Heckler & Koch G36 while Vicious has his sitting next to him]]
[[Image:CBBG36a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Gren, Vicious, and other soldiers fire their Heckler & Koch G36 rifles]]

== Heckler & Koch G3A3 ==

The [[Heckler & Koch G3#H&K G3|Heckler & Koch G3]] appears being wielded by Red Dragon Syndicate members in the episode "Real Folk Blues".

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

In the episode "Ballad of the Fallen Angels", Annie gives Spike a [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] with a stainless steel barrel along with a carton of 9mm bullets. Spike later uses it with during his fight with Vicious

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS 9mm]]
[[Image:CBBm92f.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Annie giving Spike the Beretta 92FS]]

== IMI Uzi ==
In the episode "Toys in the Attic", a full sized [[Uzi]] can be seen among the many items that Faye has won from Jet in a game of dice.

[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|300px|IMI Uzi 9mm]]
[[Image:CBBUZI.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:CBBUZI1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Uzi with a Mac 10]]

== Walther P5 ==
Used by a bounty Giraffe in the Episode "Sympathy for the Devil".

[[Image:WaltherP5fix.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P5 9mm]]

== Walther PPK ==

[[Image:CBBppk.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== [[Browning Hi-Power]] ==

[[Image:CBBcz75.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Unknowns ==
The gun on the top right could be a Mac-10 with suppressor
::The one in the second shot could be a Walther PP - Swordfish941

[[Image:CBBbunchoguns.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Faye being held up at several gun points. Counterclockwise Identification: Walther P5, Suppressed MAC-10, Browning BDM, 3 CZ75s, and another suppressed MAC-10.]]
[[Image:CBBberettagun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Heckler & Koch USP ==

In the episode "Black Dog Serenade", a prisioner on an ISSP prision ship can be seen with a [[Heckler & Koch USP]] handgun when the prisioners take over the ship. He first uses it to kill the pilot of the ship and then to threaten a prisioner who is a former assasin responsible for the loss of Jet's arm. The assasin then kills the man with a hidden stilleto knife.

Gren also used one to shoot at Vicious in Jupiter Jazz pt. 2
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch USP 9x19mm]]

== Heckler & Koch PSG-1 ==

In the episode "Black Dog Serenade", Jet's corrupt partner Fade uses a [[Heckler & Koch G3#H&K PSG-1|Heckler & Koch PSG-1]] sniper rifle to shoot off Jet's arm in a flashback.

[[Image:H&KPSG01.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1 7.62x51mm NATO]]

== Cane Gun ==

In the episode "Pierrot Le Fou", the title character can be seen brandishing a [[cane gun]] as his primary weapon, though it appears to be capable of firing numerous rounds (as opposed to real cane guns usually being loaded with only one round) with incredible accuracy, able to shoot out the window of an armored car with repeated hits to the same spot.

== Smith & Wesson Model 29 ==

In the episode "Black Dog Serenade", Jet's partner Fad can be seen using a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] with a 4 inch barrel as his sidearm.

[[Image:S&W294in.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 29 .44 Magnum]]

== Thompson Center Arms Contender ==

In the episode "Sympathy For the Devil", Spike uses a customized [[Thompson Center Arms Contender]] loaded with a custom round with a bullet made from an extremely rare mineral to kill the episode's villain, who through a freak accident has maintained the outside appearance of a young boy while in fact being many decades old. It should be noted that the casing for the round Spike fires is that of a 7.62x39mm round, one of the many calibers that can be used with interchangeable barrels.
[[Image:ThompsonCenterContender.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Thompson Center Arms Contender .45-70]]
[[Image:CBBEncore.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The custom TCA Contender sitting on a table on the ''Bebop'']]
[[Image:CBBEncore2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spike fires the TCA Contender at the climax of the episode]]

== [[Browning Hi-Power]] Mk III ==

[[Image:HiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Commercial Browning Hi Power Mark III - 9mm]]
[[Image:CBBHiPowerMk3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Colt Mk IV Series 70 ==

In one episode, Vicious uses a [[M1911 pistol series#Colt Mk IV Series 70|Colt Mk IV Series 70]] to threaten Julia, then gives her the pistol with instructions to kill Spike, though she cannot bring herself to do it. She later uses it when she and Spike are engaged in a shootout with Red Dragon Syndicate members, though ends up being fatally wounded in the gunfight.

[[Image:Colt-MKIV-Series70.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Mk IV Series 70 .45 ACP with stainless steel finish]]
[[Image:CBB1911.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vicious holds a Colt Mk IV Series 70 to Julia's head]]

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User talk:MoviePropMaster2008 (Archive)

2009-07-03T01:04:22Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Hey MPM */

Most of my uploaded firearms pics were photographed by me and thus offered for use by IMFDB with my permission.

BTW: Please IDENTIFY yourself when you leave a message. I shouldn't have to sleuth your identity through the Wiki/History page to figure out who asked what. ;) Thanks.
== RE Smith & wesson 916A ==
Yes definitely, I'd appreciate it :) --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
== Movie Firearms Functionality==
This is just a general question but do firearms that are converted for blank fire for use in film/tv etc are they still able to fire live rounds?
I was wondering because how apparently they cut a piece of the Glock off here I'm assuming because of blank usage or something. [[Image:DVglockload.jpg|thumb|600px|none]] --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
== AMT Automag ==
I created a new page for the AMT Automag as the Automag III and Automag IV are completely separate designs than the .357 Auto Mag pistol that I have had the luck to be able to examine. Also AMT was never involved in manufacturing the origional Auto Mag pistol. Basically they were useing the name for marketing purposes. I'm just giving my reasoning. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 18:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

As I don't have an form of Automag to examine again in person(of the three different models I have examined two were of questionable origin and the third was out of my pricerange). I have been looking up both the Auto mag and the AMT Automag Models. The Automag Mosels look to be based on Longslide M1911s rather than the AMC Automag. If you look at the control layout the AMC model and the AMT Models have vastly differety control setups.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Sentinel Arms Stryker==
Dear Sir,
I was wondering if you had any information about the Sentinel Arms Stryker that is shown on the Desparado page. I know it's an Armsel Striker varient but I don't know enough about it to say anything about it on the Armsel striker page. I've also seen a Striker Varient made by Penn Arms and i want to know what the differance is. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Wesley's Beretta==
Hi, I am requesting a picture of Wesley's Beretta 92S used in Wanted (2008). If you don't mind.[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==US Navy Mark 12 MOD X Special Purpose Rifle==
Hi I was referred by MT2008 that you may have access to a MK 12 SPR or a similar weapon. If you have access to an image to add to the Mk 12 SPR section of the M16 page that would be appreciated. The current image has a watermark and is a graphic from somewhere and probably copyrighted so It would be cool if that image could be replaced. thanks, -[[User:AdAstra2009]]

Well thanks for looking into it, I appreciate it -[[User:AdAstra2009]]

==YES!==

Thank you SO much! Those look great, and actually, they look very close to the ones that have appeared in quite a few movies. We can start replacing the two-tone SIG pics that we have on our other pages with these immediately! Again, I ''greatly'' appreciate you doing this for me. How will I ever repay you?

Out of curiosity, since you told me that they usually don't fit, how did you make them work together? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re: MP5A5==

Huh, that's interesting. I always figured Stembridge would have mostly -90 series guns that looked just like those "MP5s" that appear in so many productions they've rented to. Any idea why those HK94s were never converted further to make them look like more realistic MP5s? As my ''[[Air Force One]]'' page shows, Stembridge basically left those guns as-is well into the 1990s.

Thanks for the MP5A5 picture...I was actually close to replacing it myself (albeit with something from a Google image search). And yes, I'm sure more people than me appreciate them! At least, I hope so. You're pretty much the most important person we've got when it comes to gun images. I mean, how many sites out there get to have pictures of the same prop weapons used in many films?

==Thanks for the new pictures==

You've uploaded a lot of good pictures recently...I especially like the S&W 4506 and the SIG P220 Sport (is that the one from Cinema Weaponry that's appeared in several movies?) I thought of taking a picture of my own personal 4506 for a while, but gave up because I knew I couldn't take one as good as what you could do. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Thanks for the pics, they are great- Beeteles

==One other thing...==

I know I keep asking for stuff from you lately, but this time it's talk only.

I just finished working on the ''[[Air Force One]]'' page for this site. That movie features some type of short-barreled AK which looks just like the one from ''[[True Lies]]''. Here's a picture:

[[Image:AFO-shortyAK-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

The next time you talk to Harry Lu, would you mind asking him what these guns are and who owns them (Stembridge?) Thanks! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:==

The new pictures are really cool, as usual. I especially love the M16A1 with A2 handguards picture, because there are a lot of Hollywood movies featuring guns with that config, and it's great that we now have a picture to prove to our visitors how you sneaky armorers have deceived so many of us common folk action movie fans with those fake M16A2s! Haha, just kidding. Anyway, how did you get your hands on a Diemaco? Remember Al Vrkljan, the Canadian armorer who helped me out on ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)]]''? He told me that Diemaco/Colt Canada wouldn't sell any of their guns to his company or any civilian companies, so where did it come from?

Also, you brought up an interesting point on the ''[[American Gun (2006)]]'' page...as an armorer who works in the film industry, how do you feel about the anti-gun attitudes that seem so prevalent in Hollywood? Does it ever frustrate you and make you not want to rent your guns out to people who are so overtly anti-RKBA? I've always wondered how armorers feel about the people they work with.

Appreciate the effort on the Type 84 and two-tone P226 pics. Whenever you get a chance!

==What do you think...==

...of the article on the [[Colt Flare Launcher]]? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Trust me, I'm not offended. I respect and share your commitment to ensuring accuracy on this site, especially since you're obviously far more qualified to talk about guns in film (and guns in general) than I will ever be. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Oh, yes, and one other request...==

I have another request, this one a bit more unusual. I recently did a page for ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]'', which features a two-tone SIG P226 of West German manufacture that has a stainless frame and a regular black slide and barrel. It looks like the armorer just combined two existing guns to make it (since the two-tone P226s usually have black frame and stainless slide), and I'd love to have a picture of something identical for my page. So if you ever get out those two P226s that you photographed for IMFDB back in June, do you mind combining this:

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]]

..and this...

[[Image:SigP226Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]]

...to make this?

[[Image:2F2F-P226-10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:2F2F-P226-13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

...and then taking a picture of it for me? Also, if you put the slide and barrel from the stainless P226 on the frame of the black P226, you'd have a gun identical to the one from ''[[Face/Off]]'' which we could use for that page.

:Now THAT is news to me. I'm really surprised...finishes really make the fit of the parts THAT difficult? Wow. I don't think the gun above is a factory job because the two-tone P226s that SIG has sold are always black frame and stainless slide, not the other way around. Do you by chance know who supplied the weapons for ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]''?

:Thanks for the info, as always.

==Re: Back for a bit==

I do think you're right and that there are some SKS rifles in ''[[Platoon]]'' (which may or may not be Chinese Type 56 copies, for all I know). I own that movie on DVD, so as soon as I get back to my place, I'm gonna have to pop it in my laptop and watch again to be sure. Also, thanks for backing me up on the CAR-15 variants in the film - I was pretty sure they were 653s, and I know that particular model was exported in large numbers to U.S. allies during the 1970s (if you ever check out any Arab-Israeli war photos from the news, even today, you'll see many IDF personnel using them).

I was also suspicious of the "MAC-9" page, because I have never heard of that variant. On the other hand, I had no idea that the 9mm variant of the MAC-10 was called the "MAC-10/9"; I've usually just heard it referred to as a MAC-10. I figure "MAC-9" was just somebody butchering the spelling of "M11/9", which has appeared in lots of movies (I made the entry for that gun under the MAC-10 page myself, though someone else put down - inaccurately - that it was used in ''[[Blue Streak]]'').

Sorry to hear Josh Brolin broke a gun...indeed, how DO you bend a trigger guard? Then again, he's had some issues with the law lately, so maybe it's not too surprising. What film is he working on that required him to carry a Police Chief Special, anyway? Some period piece, I take it? I don't know how frustrating it is to be an armorer, but I can imagine...I mean, if you've rented out dozens of guns to one production, doesn't that make you lose your nerve to think how much those guns must be getting tossed around, even with armorers on-set to supervise their use? Also, remember when you sent me that picture of guns to ID from your vault? How many did I get right?

That's cool if you can get a picture of a Chinese Tokarev. Later. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Tokarev==

MP2008,

Nice to see you're back on the site! Hope you've seen some of GunMaster45's recent work (especially on ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' and ''[[Platoon]]''.

Anyway, I'm curious...do you by chance have a Chinese Type 54 copy of a Tokarev in your company's inventory? I ask only because I've seen those in quite a few movies, and I figure we should have a picture of one for this site. Also, I thought that only Chinese Tokarevs have the frame-mounted safety? I have little experience with them, but I thought I remembered reading that...please educate me if I'm wrong!

==Re: A pic and an update==

Good lord, is that what Heaven on Earth looks like? I can see (from left to right), an AR with a triangular forearm (M16A1 or AR15 SP1, I can't tell, but the selector appears to be on semi!), an FN MAG, an MP5A2 with slim forearm, a shorty AR with a 10" barrel, an AKM variant, an FN Minimi, a G36E, two AR carbines with what appear to be 14.5"+ barrels, what I believe to be an MG3 and an MG42, and then a PK or PKM. Behind the MG3, I see the barrel shroud of what might be an M1919, but I can't tell for sure. All I know is that I seriously hope my own safe looks like that...some day (as it stands, my GSA-imported Chinese AK is the only "evil"-looking gun I own).

As far as changing the pages...totally fine. I never intended to leave our conversations on there permanently...only long enough to make sure that the guns were properly identified. Of course, I'm quickly learning that you're usually right!

Sorry you've got so many guns to clean...I've heard stories about the way that blanks wear guns in comparison to live rounds, so I know how busy you must be! As far as replacement parts go, please replace that slim forearm on the MP5 (which I see has a tag). I've always found those slim forearms on ANY H&K long gun to be annoying because I can't get a comfortable grip on them; they're just way too narrow (and this is coming from a guy with pretty small hands!) I imagine anyone who has to fire hundreds of rounds out of that gun (until the director gets a satisfying take of an action scene) would also start to hate it.

Haha...thanks for the vault picture. Talk to you later. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Long-barreled AK under-folder==

Here is the gun from ''[[The X-Files]]'' I mentioned to you. Found these on a fan site for the show. They're not great quality, but you can see it pretty well:

[[Image:X-files-Type84-4.jpg|thumb|800px|none|]]
[[Image:X-files-Type84-3.jpg|thumb|800px|none|]]
[[Image:X-files-Type84-2.jpg|thumb|800px|none|]]
[[Image:X-files-Type84.jpg|thumb|800px|none|(This one is from a different episode)]]

It's clearly an under-folder, it has a long barrel, but it also has what appears to be a .223 mag. And it seems to have a hooded front sight in the first pic. Any idea what this might be? It's appeared in several episodes of the show from a couple of seasons, and I always thought it was a Type 84 under-folder fitted with the barrel from an RPK clone. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Mike Sudrow is listed on IMDB as having worked on a few episodes of ''[[The X-Files]]''. Since the show lasted so long (nine years), I imagine they probably had many, many different armorers depending on the season/filming location.

::As far as Canadian armorers go, Al Vrkljan of Movie Armaments Group was on here a couple months ago. He corrected me on the ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)|Incredible Hulk]]'' page by telling me that, interestingly enough, Diemaco/Colt Canada won't sell its weapons to film armorers in Canada! He also told me more about those mystery grenade launchers we were discussing earlier, plus he updated the page with more guns that I had missed. I really hope he comes back; he said he might be able to get some pictures of the launchers for us.

::No worries on the ''[[Heat]]'' stuff, although I think you actually mean Gunmaster45, not me. As far as buying handguns go, I have yet to even try it in my home state (NC) because I live in Orange County and you have to get three "references" (people who are county residents) to apply for a purchase permit at the sheriff's dept. Sadly, Chapel Hill is full of overly-liberal people whom I wouldn't be comfortable asking to sign my permit application, so I've never bought a pistol here even though I'm of age - I've just inherited pistols from my grandfather. Ah, well, maybe if I wind up re-locating to Texas for this new job, I can finally buy that SIG P226 I've always wanted... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:Re:Sahara==

Thanks for going so far out of your way to get the photo of the Type 84 with the AKM-style sight...I realize it must have been a hassle! However, I wasn't saying they put an AKM sight on a Type 84; I simply thought the front sight itself indicated the gun was a Type 84 because my eyes suck and it looked hooded to me from that perspective.

As far as the source goes, I believe Crowntower Limited supplied the weapons that were used in ''[[Sahara]]''. I say that based on a couple of deductions: Sascha Robey was one of the armorers who worked on ''[[Casino Royale]]'' as well as ''[[Sahara]]'', Crowntower is listed in the credits of ''[[Casino Royale]]'' (but not ''[[Sahara]]'') as the weapons supplier, and finally, if you look at our ''[[Casino Royale]]'' page, the AKs in that film top look identical to the one in ''[[Sahara]]'' that we were talking about. Perhaps this Sascha Robey rented the same guns for two films.

==Re:Sahara==

A lot of what you've said makes sense...BUT, there's still something bugging me about the third screenshot. Either my eyes really suck, or that is still a Norinco-style sight in that shot. HOWEVER, the first screenshot does, admittedly, show what appears to be a standard AKM-style front sight. Compare:

[[Image:ComparisonSaharaAK.JPG|thumb|800px|none|]]

I'm also confused because I have seen Type 84s fitted with mags that LOOK like the Romak mags, even if they aren't, like the one in the picture I posted. Anyway, is it possible that they used two different weapons for this "hero" gun use, and one was a Romak (or whatever) and the other was a Type 84 re-styled to look more like the Romak?

BTW, I didn't correct that typo; Gunmaster45 did. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Oh, yeah, and the screens are really cool. As far as people's sudden interest in ignored pages, I guess it has to do with the fact that once they see somebody's worked on it in the "Recent Changes" section, they glance at it, and then they're more likely to spot mistakes they didn't see before.

:OK, you know what? My eyes ''do'' suck! I just stood way, way back from my monitor and squinted, and now I see that it's not a hooded Norinco sight; it's just the angle makes it appear circular. You are right; it can't be a Type 84, or anything that uses Type 84 parts. And I'm guessing that also means I could be wrong about the ''[[Casino Royale]]'' AKs, too.

:It's kinda strange, though...I wouldn't have figured British armorers would use civilian AK variants that were essentially geared towards the U.S. firearms market.

==I, Robot SMG==

Excellent, I'm glad to see you found the scene in ''[[I, Robot]]'' where it shows a close-up of the SMG's receiver and the Spectre's safety is visible. I was beginning to think my memory had failed me and that I was wrong...but I remember seeing this movie in the theater, on the big screen, and seeing that exact same image in your screenshot. Immediately, I thought to myself, "Spectre M4!" Actually, only a few months before the movie came out, I was at a gun show where one of the dealers had the semi-auto carbine version on his table...probably how I recognized it so quickly!

BTW, I believe the trigger and pistol grip are one unit on the Spectre. It looks to me like the armorers who worked on ''[[I, Robot]]'' just removed it and added that PSG1-style grip, but never bothered to put on a replacement trigger guard. - [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==M70==

Hi,

Do you think we should really have a separate page for the [[Zastava M70]], instead of just putting it under the [[AK-47]] page, as we did for the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Type 56]]? - [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:I see your point. However, my personal criteria is that we should keep all conventional 7.62x39mm AK-type assault rifles on one page. Although the M70 series are by no means straightforward AK-47/AKM copies (due to the ladder sight and the mix of stamped receiver with traditional AK layout, like on the Type 56), they are still basically pretty conventional rifles, as opposed to say, the Norinco Type 86 or the Saiga and Vepr series. I feel it'd probably be better to keep the M70 on the [[AK-47]] page, especially since I haven't seen any movies yet that feature weapons like the M76 or M77. This is, of course, sort of a gray area and one of the biggest problems with this site, IMO.

:Also, I feel compelled to point out...there's an episode in ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' where "Russian" soldiers are actually seen using M70Bs and Type 56s, which is of course ridiculously inaccurate (the episode takes place in the present-day Chechen conflict).

==RE: RE: Studio Weapons==
You more than answered the question, thank you. I have seen some pictures of places that do the rentals and, frankly, privately list them as places I would most want to work. ''"No we don't have a .50 cal minigun on the shelves but I can check in the back."'' Once again thanks for the info and for the earlier compliments. Incidentally, I am working on a new one..."Farewell to the King" (1989)..should have it ready in a few days.

Do studios still keep their own "arsenals"? I was given the impression that most, if not all, firearms for movies were in the private sector.

== RE: Images ==
No skin off of my nose what images you use mate. Fact of the matter is, when you boil it down, pretty much all the images we are using on here are not "legal". So which ones you use, from whatever site are ok with me. Frankly, as far as I go, I try to only use images which do not have another web site's watermark on them.

==RE:==

First of all, cheers for the update on the Type 84 picture. There's no hurry; I understand if it takes a while to get the appropriate mags (since obviously, a Type 84 doesn't look very different from a Type 56 without them).

Second, while I don't speak for everyone on here, I can say that I personally do not have any problem with you replacing pictures of guns on this site (even those that I uploaded) with any that you took. Nor do I see why anyone else would. The only reason I can imagine anyone getting offended would be if they went to the same effort you do to get the guns and photograph them on their own. But pretty much everyone else on here just uploads pictures they copied from other gun sites, in some cases ''airsoft'' web sites (like that picture we used to have of the SP89, which was just an airsoft MP5K fitted with an SP89 handguard from DenTrinity; terrible!). And it doesn't take much time or effort to copy and upload someone else's work.

Additionally, your gun photos are obviously of superior quality to anything else on here, and they're of guns that have actually appeared in movies (possibly the same movies as the pages they're on), so as far as I am concerned, there really isn't any reason why we can't replace any existing photos of guns with the ones you've taken. In fact, I would encourage you to ''not'' be so timid in the future when it comes to replacing photos. If you want an example of what I mean by this, take a look at the [[Armalite AR-18]] page. Your AR-18 picture is way better than any of those on the page, so I don't see any reason why you can't just remove some of the others (maybe keep ONE of the other photos of the gun with the scope, and even that could be replaced if you took an equivalent picture).

One thing I will point out, though: I have sometimes used pictures on my pages that are from the web site of Rick Washburn's company Weapons Specialists, Inc. (http://www.weaponspecialists.com/index.php). They provided the guns for ''[[I Am Legend]]'', so the page for that movie now features pictures of the guns used in the film that I copied and uploaded from them (including the tan-framed Mark 23). In cases like that, I'd prefer those particular photos stay up (you'll know them because I always provide links and info mentioning where they're from) because they feature the actual movie guns, and they're decent quality. Besides that, I don't have any problem with you replacing any and all photos of guns on this site with yours.

==Chinese Type 56==

First of all, I GREATLY appreciate the photo you took of one of the ''[[Goldeneye]]'' AKs for me. I didn't know you had access to any British armories?

However, I have one question: Do you think it's really appropriate to classify the Chinese Type 56 rifles with stamped receivers as "AK-47" and "AKS-47" clones, as opposed to AKM/AKMS derivatives? I realize that the Type 56s with stamped receivers lack just about all of the other features of the AKMs (including the muzzle break, ribbed receiver cover, rate reducer, grip rails, narrower front sight, etc.), but I've usually heard them described as AKM copies simply to distinguish them from the earlier milled-receiver versions. I know this is an over-simplification of sorts because the Type 56s aren't really orthodox AK-47s or AKMs (they're more like a weird hybrid version), but I figured it would be more appropriate.

:Well, I would say I know the differences between the two. I must point out that I own a Chinese AK (mine was imported by Golden State Arms and simply has 'AK47S 7.62x39mm - Made in China' stamped on the receiver). I was simply curious whether the presence of a stamped receiver on the Type 56 made it worthy of being designated an AKM variant or not.

:Personally, I think the best bet might be to literally just create a new sub-entry for the Type 56 under the [[AK-47]] page and then we can focus on finding any and all movies that feature the Type 56 and putting them under there. This would reflect best the fact that the Type 56 is sort of a weird hybrid AK-47/AKM with distinctly Chinese characteristics (such as the hooded front sight), which most other AK derivatives (like the Maadis) don't have.

::Haha, no offense taken, just wanted you to know I'm not a complete newbie when it comes to AKs, though obviously you completely blow me out of the water. Anyway, I would definitely appreciate the Type 84 pic whenever you get a chance. Not sure if there's anything else I need at the moment...but I would strongly encourage you to just take pictures of whatever you can get your hands on. As I've said, it's really great that we have you because this site is full of pictures that are copied from sites like world.guns.ru or (in some cases) AIRSOFT websites (i.e. the SP89 picture that we used to have before I replaced it).

::BTW, these are some incredible pics you've gotten us lately, moreso than usual. How on earth did you get that Romanian AIMS from "44 Minutes"? Do you know Thell Reed, too? Also, I'm going to do a LITTLE bit of additional work on the [[AK-47#Type 56|Type 56]] entry, and I think I'm also gonna ditch the AKS-47 one for now (simply because there don't seem to be any movies I'm aware of that have actual milled-receiver Russian AKS-47s or close copies) and move all the Type 56-1 entires down. If you disagree, you can revert (or partially modify) the edits and I won't mind. Also, good work on the [[RPG-7]] article getting the Type 69 mentioned (it's something I wanted to do myself - mostly because "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" also has a Type 69).

==Re: Editing Dogs of War==

Thanks for the info. I've seen those guns in a whole bunch of movies and I always wondered what they were, who made them, and why. I think they've also appeared in a couple episodes of ''[[The A-Team]]'' and a Chuck Norris movie or two.

I have some great screenshots of the fake Uzis which I took for my ''[[Raw Deal]]'' page (I've been meaning to work on it for ages, but so far, I just never have managed to get around to it). Here they are:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-59410.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

[[Image:Vlcsnap-59747.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

== Re: image ==

Sorry for the mixup. Feel free to replace the image with a better one if you have one handy. It's good to have a professional armourer on the site to help out, you've been doing some good work so far. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 10:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Contact? ==

I was wondering, is there any way we could chat off-site? I'd enjoy the opportunity to talk with you about your work as an armourer and about some various weapons and films. My contact info can be found on my user page. I hope to hear from you soon, and wish you well. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Red Dawn ==

OK, I was simply confused because I thought you were saying that the Egyptians didn't call the full-auto version they made for their armed forces the Misr, which would contradict almost every book and web site on AKs I've read. You obviously know far, FAR more than I do, so I think it's perfectly fine if you want to edit the page to refer to the guns as Maadi ARMs. Perhaps it might also be reasonable to put in a note that the ARM is the semi-automatic version of the Misr or something? Also, please post the picture of the "Red Dawn" AKM you took.

Appreciate your contributions, and (especially) your photographs. It's really cool that we have somebody like you on here. Do you by chance have any pictures of the Norinco/Poly Tech AKs that the rental armories purchased in the 80s? A long, LONG time ago, somebody put one of them up for sale on GunBroker; I wish I had saved the picture. I'm also curious to know if you have pics of the Norinco Type 84...I've been trying to get a good one to add to the ''[[Casino Royale]]'' page and my ''[[Harsh Realm]]'' page for a while now.

:Wow, thanks! Yeah, I'd prefer the basic fixed-stock configuration since the ones in ''[[Casino Royale]]'' and ''[[Harsh Realm]]'' seem to have that (except the wood on the CR guns looks like it can't be factory), but I wouldn't encourage you to go TOO far out of your way, as I recognize you must be really busy.

:Which armory is it that you have access to?

==Re: My two cents on the Hulk Launchers==
Yeah, I think you're probably right...it looks to me that the armorers were shooting for an M32 look but couldn't get the real deal, so they took civilian launchers (most likely DefTech) and modified them heavily. I notice that there seem to be a lot of 37mm launchers which are depicted as HE grenade launchers in movies (i.e. Colt 37mm Flare Launchers substituting for M203s). I guess this is another case of the same deal.

Sure, you can re-post the CZ99 pic. It isn't "mine"; I took it from world.guns.ru, which is where many of the photographs of guns on this site come from (as you can imagine, that's why I'm happy to have someone like you who is willing to give us original photos, especially when they're of actual movie guns).

== Thanks ==

[[The Dogs of War]] was one of my first "efforts" here. I knew, already, that you saw a guy running around with a [[MAC-10]] during the weapons training phase but did not know there was one of those cheesy ass "fake" [[Uzi]]s. Oh, the same goes for the Car-15s.

Incidentally, I forget what movie I saw it in but there was a fake [[Uzi]] in it and the foregrip on it was rotated so that the front sight was actually pointed downward!!!

== Hey ==

Hey MoviePropMaster, I'm Alienqueen11, and I seen the images you have uploaded, and they're great. I also want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload a picture of a [[Remington 870]] with Ghost Ring Sights and a High Capacity Tube like the one in the screenshot below for the [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] page, I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for complitementing my knowledge on guns, I also reverted a version of one of your MP5 pictures because someone copied over it with an airsoft image, I really wish some people would checked the thing while they're uploading an image to make sure the name isn't already used to avoid mistakes like this. And once again, thanks for your contributions and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11.

== Heartbreak Ridge M16's ==

I just saw ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' on TV this afternoon, and all the [[M16 rifle series|M16]]'s I saw on-screen were the A1 variant, complete with bolt-forward assist buttons at the rear of the upper recievers. Even saw one fitted with an [[M203 grenade launcher]] used by one of the Recon Marines under Gunnery Sergeant Highway's command.

[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904
- He might want to look at my page and see they weren't ''all'' M16A1s.

==Question==
[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]: Hi, I was just wondering how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect? My other question is that on the [[Hollow Point]] page I made recently, did I get the AK varient right? I figured I'd ask you as you seem to be the AK pro on the site. Thanks.
(My list of pages is on my profile if you feel like checking any of my other work as well.)

==M14 rifle==
I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great, is there any chance you could take some good shots? The pictures now are blurry, or black and white.

==37mm Launcher==
Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM

::I built the colt launcher page based on what MT said, but your input greatly helped it. It's a shame taking professional pictures is so complex. The best I have is photoshop and an erase brush. I have a Norinco Type 54 pistol and I wanted to put pictures of it on the site soon. I'm not bad with editing, it should come out okay. I just need to find the time to do it. The M14 rifle pics came out great, let me know if you get your hands on an M21. I'll have plenty of films to be corrected in the future, my to do list touches the sky. One or two every friday or saturday. Stay cool. -GM

==Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon"==
:Here's a tricky task, do you think you could find a Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon"? Aparently it is what John Practice uses in [[Last Action Hero]] according to user input, and I can't find a good picture of it. Until I do find a good picture, I'll have to keep my horrible AR-24 picture I had on their before. If it isn't a Bren 10 PF, I'd assume you of all people would shoot me straight.
[[Image:StarMegastarLastActionHero.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the picture of him with the Bren 10 "Peregrine Falcon". His is a tutone model, but I'm not that picky. If both can be had, it would make a nice page in the Bren 10 gun section.]]
==M1911/M1911A1==
::I apoligize for asking one more thing of you, but the M1911 and M1911A1 pistols are infamous works of art in the firearms world, commonly used in films. We got a repro M1911 picture (modernized), a Springfield M1911A1 (when Colt M1911A1 is the genuine picture desired), another M1911A1 with pachmyr grips (better than springfield, but see how it sticks out on Platoon? It's ''too'' modern) So is their any chance you could find a genuine (or prefered, an ''authentic'' reproduction) of a Colt M1911 and Colt M1911A1 to snap some shots of, that would be awesome. I trust you know them apart, your a pro. Thanks. Good luck. -GM

==Re:Last Action Hero==
I saw [[Last Action Hero]] when I was young and loved it. Now, it is still one of my favorites. I like how it makes fun of action movies, by showing how Arnold can fire a billion rounds from a Desert Eagle and cars just explode for no reason. I'll fix those problems you mentioned. Your saying they are more likely civilian TEC-9s instead of TEC-DC9's? What physical traits help determine this, just the sling? And they were firing full-auto so they were probably converted.

== Hi! ==

Still no replacement grip for the M70?

Shame, it looks strange with that grip - I'm used to seeing them on M76s and M72s... which reminds me: about that mystery long barreled AK - I know that Crvena Zastava makes under-folder RPKs, namely the M72A (7.62 - based on M70), and the M90A (5.56 - based on an assault rifle of the same designation). The under-folder RPKs (those with an "A") have removable bipods (the standard, solid-stock ones have fixed), so w/ the folding stocks and w/o bipods they would look like those mystery AKs, no? Also, one more improtant fact: unlike the Yugo AKs (which have 3 holes), the Yugo RPKs have TWO holes in the forward grip (like the original AKs). http://pookieweb.dyndns.org:61129/Yugo/pics/m72a.jpg

I hope this was hepful, keep up the good work!

== Request ==

I'm sorry to ask, but if you get the chance, can you upload a [[Beretta M92F|Beretta M92FS]]? I know the ones on the site are already good enough, but I want to see how great one by you would be. I know you're already busy, so don't do it if you're too busy, and if you can't upload it, it's okay. Anyway, welcome back, the new pictures for the M16 and M14 are great. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== RE:870 ==

I think you're right about the Mossberg sights on the 870, they seem to match those on the Mossberg more then anything.

Here the picture I had on the page when I thought his shotgun was a Mossberg 500:
[[Image:Mossberg500.gif|thumb|none|335px|[[Mossberg 500]] 12 ga. with optional ghost ring sights.]]

And this is the image I have on the page now, seeing it now, they look nothing like the sights in the screencap:
[[Image:870p.jpg|thumb|none|335px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with magazine extention tube and ghost ring sights.]]

And it looks like the armorer must have put the Mossberg sights on the Remington:
[[Image:DotD Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

Hope this helps, and thanks for the favor, I appreciate it. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Done ==

Don't worry, he won't be able to edit again, if it happens again, I'll be sure to make so only registered users can edit the [[Commando]] page. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==Karabiner 98k sniper rifle==
:I recently noticed while working on the [[Saving Private Ryan]] page that we have no sniper rifle varient Kar98k rifle pic. I've noticed you [[Enemy at the Gates]] page is in need of this picture as well too. I apoligize for adding yet another gun to your to-do list but just let me know if you find one. -GM45

==Re: FINALLY==

Excellent! I already have a use for the 870 folder, too - just put it on the ''[[RoboCop]]'' page (which features an identical weapon). And thanks for the UMP-45 and the Gen 2 Glock-17 as well! There are so many movies that feature Gen 2 Glocks, yet all we have is that stock picture of a Gen 3. When I get back to my place later today, I'm going to start using your Glock in every movie page that features such a gun.

Also...that AR15A2 you photographed; can we consider it an M16A2? Is it converted to auto or burst? We really need a good M16A2 picture, because the one that appears throughout the site is yet another crappy airsoft picture.

==RE:==

Hmmm, I'll have to see. There's lots of loose women and great beer over here in Texas that I ''might'' be able to offer you, but the gold's gonna be hard to come by! Haha.

Thanks yet AGAIN for the improved two-tone P226 picture. Weirdly enough, I completely failed to notice that the one in ''[[Face/Off]]'' had a silver hammer until you pointed it out. But it's great that you have a better eye for detail than I do, and moreso that you corrected it. And, of course, thank you for answering my questions about movie guns to the best of your ability. I think your idea for a 12-gauge pump page is perfectly useful, though I must point out that if it can't be categorized, it's gonna be hard for other users to find it. In order to make sure people see it, please add links to it on pages for the shotguns it distinguishes from each other. That would be the best way to make sure your word gets out.

Hope you don't mind, but I've already shown your SIG pics on SIGforum.com to draw attention to our site. I'd show your H&K pictures on HKPRO forum (where I also post), too, if their forum wasn't down every other minute. I dunno if you post on any other gun-related boards, but if you do, show off your pics and point folks to IMFDB. The more attention, the better. We've already got 55,000 views from the ''[[Heat]]'' page (which features your P220 and M16A1 pictures, among others), so spread the word and more people will discover the beauty of IMFDB with its original movie gun pictures, taken by an actual movie armorer!

Oh, yeah, and I will respond to the topic of vandals on Bunni's talk page shortly. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:Dibbs==
Feel free, one less thing for me to do. I only ask that you keep the bow and knife on the page so it fits the other two. I'll eventually add them to [[Rambo (2008)]] so that one fits as well. If anything I'll likely just add some shots like I tend to do. Thanks for asking me and not just doing it. Can't wait to see it. -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]
::Almost forgot, MT2008 may have asked already but we really need a Poly Tech Legend AK pic.

:::Nope, I forgot, too! Yeah, it wouldn't be a bad idea. I've been looking for one on Google image search, but no go on any good ones. Also, speaking of AKs (and here I go again making your request list longer), a new AKM pic would be nice. Not to sound unappreciative, but I tend to shy away from the one you took just because the red stock looks out-of-place and ugly, plus the magazine is the plastic type rather than the ribbed type. If you can get a picture of one of the Maadi AKMs with the right stock, plus a metal ribbed-style mag (which is more the "classic" style, if you will)...great. If not, no worries. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Re:Casino Royale==

Yep, that's the exact same picture I looked up to remind myself what an M76 was. Actually, I think I always thought that the M76 just referred to their long-range rifle, and I didn't remember that their smaller-caliber AKs were called M76. But I did know off the top of my head that it couldn't be Zastava because their full-sized AKs always have the folding GL sight, and the ''[[Casino Royale]]'' AKs don't.

BTW, any idea what's wrong with the [[Taurus PT92]] picture you gave us? I just put it on the page for ''[[The X-Files]]'', and now it's disappeared. A search of the page history indicates no act of vandalism.

Oh, yeah, and one other thing: I never thanked you for getting that Australian Automatic Arms carbine picture for ''[[The Matrix]]'' page. So...thanks! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== DotD 870 ==

I don't mean to bug you, but did you have any luck with the Dawn of the Dead Remington 870, and did the message I sent you about about the sights help at all, please let me know. Also excellent work lately, The new Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 pictures are great, and so are the many other pictures you uploaded lately, I really like the two tone Sig P226s you got for MT2008, those are one of kind. Good luck, and keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:10, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Kelly's Heroes==
I was aware they were using FN BAR type D 8mm guns instead of american .30-06 BARs but I didn't know they were using the wrong mag pouches. Thanks for the info. -GM45

==Re:M1911 pistols==
The 1911 pictures are absolute perfection. The M1911 from 1913 looks great. I have one from 1913 too and yours puts mine to shame. Thanks very much. -GM45

:And thanks for the P38, too! Feel free to just delete the one that's been on the P38 already, and insert your image into any and all movie pages featuring P38s. I've been replacing old gun images on many pages with your new gun images (i.e. the Glock you uploaded earlier in the week). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Re: Beretta M92FS ==

It looks excellent, I don't mind an American made Beretta, an Italian made one isn't too different, is it? If you come across an Italian one in the future, you can upload that, but you don't have to, like I said, I like the new one as it is. Thank you soo much for the favor, you never disappoint.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

==Thanks for the USP!==

I was thinking of asking you for a USP pic, but figured I should hold off on it, just to prevent you from getting bogged down.

As you can tell, we're embarking on a campaign to replace any and all older images of guns taken from other sites, with the pictures you've uploaded. I'm also curious...what would you think of a page dedicated to explaining the importance of your gun images to new users of the site, and featuring examples of your work? It would be linked from the main page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Should cartoons be allowed? ==

I want to know if it is either no one cares about the fact that cartoons like Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and recently South Park had been allowed to this site. I have don't think these pages should exist because do you think about the rare guns that appears on those shows and wonder what they are? Cause I sure don't. I'm too busy laughing my ass off to how funny these series are, not wondering if the shotgun Homer used in the Zombie episode was a Winchester Model 1887 or that it never appeared in any other episode following. I don't care and I dont think anyone else should care. We're getting cartoon fanboys that thinks just because Family Guy has an episode where Stewie has a closet full of look alike guns, means we should write a page about them. Those guns are not the point of the show and the artist that drew them obviously didn't take much consideration for them or mention. I think Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and South Park be removed at once. None of them deserve to be on this site. And whoever puts them here doesn't respect this site enough.
::That's a little harsh. I added some of the info on those pages, thank you. I was eventually going to do the South Park movie, because it does in fact have some pretty obvious guns in it. Personally I think they shouldn't be removed but if they are to stay, someone should take the time to screencap them and show us what they are talking about. -GM45

==Reign of Fire==
I just finished screencapping [[Reign of Fire]] and before I upload them on the page, I wanted to see if you knew what this gun is. Based on what I see I'm assuming it is a .577 Nitro Tyrannosaurus Rex rifle built personally by the Mauser company's greatest gunsmiths based on the Mauser rifle type extractor/bolt release and the Mauser style firing pin striker seen on the gun. At first I thought it was a Model 70 or a Mauser sporterized and then they show what big ass rounds he loads in it so now I just don't know. I figured of all, you'd likely know best. Also, if it is a T-rex rifle, I'd likely need a picture of it because as usual, the internet sucks for finding gun pics. I know this gun is rare but so is the .600 Nitro double barreled rifle, but that is seen in [[The Lost World: Jurassic Park]] despite that. I'm not expecting a picture from you because I know how rare and expensive it is but I figured if it ever came up I could count on you.

Here's the pics:
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|His rifle resting up against the table.]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the extractor/bolt release and Mauser style striker.]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This scope symbol looks familiar, what brand is this?]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Look at the monstrous rounds he loads it with. Only two fit in the gun! They look like either .577 or .600 Nitro rounds.]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ROFbigrifle-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|He fires the rifle at the big bull dragon, which does nothing and tosses it away after two shots.]]

Hope you respond soon. -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]
::I've decided to upload the movie tommorow to give you more time to respond. -GM

: I didn't expect you'd have one, after all it isn't a mass produced company gun. Major members of the Mauser company make it customly crafted. You'll see it all on the page in a sec. Also, the pic I uploaded I had to edit so it was horizontal and since it had 4 whited corners after turning it, I had to clone the corners in. Once you know, it is far more obvious to tell where I edited.

==Re: New Pics==

What I meant is that I want to make sure people on this site see how thorough you are, and how accurately you match guns to requests. Remember that AR15 Sporter that you visually modified to look like an XM177 from ''[[The Dogs of War]]''? Or the two SIG P226s you made to look the ones in ''[[Face/Off]]'' and ''[[Bad Boys II]]''? Those are the kinds of gun pics that I want to show off to new folks. What I would do is just make a page that briefly explains your contributions, and then shows guns you've photographed and how close they are to those in the movies. This is an unformed idea, I admit, but basically, I want people browsing this sight to understand (1.) That your images are exclusive to IMFDB, and (2.) That they're basically close representations of what those users have seen in movies. I know I'm not being terribly articulate, but do you understand what I mean?

And don't worry about replacing previous pics with your pics. The rest of us will continue to do that for you, as we've been doing. So far, we've pretty much replaced all of the old M16s, M4s, Berettas, Glocks, Kar98s, MP40s, etc. with your guns. I think I'm gonna start putting your USP pic on our pages, too (except those that feature the larger .45 variant of the USP, like ''[[Collateral]]'').-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==AK-47 recognition page==
Now that you've made a Shotgun page, why not make an AK page to tell a Norinco from a Maadi from a genuine, from a poly tech, etc.
Also, maybe an M16 page for slab sides, A1s, A2s, etc.
It would probably help the users out a lot. I'm sure the shotgun page did. Personally, I have trouble telling a Norinco Type 56 aside from its hooded sight. Perhaps a couple of close ups of sight placement, recievers and all that will make me a more efficient I.Der. -GM45

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, MPM2008, I uploaded some more shots of Ving Rhames' shotgun in [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] if you want to take a look, it's in the Custom Remington 870 section of the page. Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Hey, MPM2008, do you want me to put protections on your images so no one can revert them if they've been upload over with images from the internet in the past, or upload over them? I'm asking this because some user keeps uploading a crappy picture from the internet over your H&K USP40 image. And if you want, I could ask Bunni to make you a mod or I can take the protections off them whenever you want to edit them or upload a new version of them. Let me know what you want to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Update: I protected all your images, and I also asked Bunni to make you an adminstrator so you can upload new versions of or revert them if want. If you not made an admin right away, just tell me what image you want to access, and I'll unlock it for you. I'm sorry I had to do this, but I wanted to prevent idiots like the guy who kept uploading over your H&K USP40 from changing your pictures, and I promise, if I ever get the ability to block users back, I will undo the protections. See you soon and good luck.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:Made you a mod, enjoy. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 22:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Response ==

Thanks, I will always make sure your images stay the way they are. And I didn't understand that user either, I told him politely a bunch of times to stop, but he wouldn't listen. What really intrigues me most is how somebody could prefer a crappy image they probably found on Google Images over an excellent well photographed image such as yours. As for being a mod, congratulations, but I most warn you that the block function is not working at this time, but Bunni is trying his best to fix it, but you will be able to delete any pages or images you don't want, and you will also be able to protect pages. And if we ever get the ability to block back, that one user is going to be the first on my list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

As for the 870, take as much time as you need to, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait when it's uploaded. I will also have more requests in the future, but I won't bother you with them right now. And I also I have a question, I read your new project pictures thing on your user page, and when you say 870 riot configurations, do mean Remington 870s similar in appearence to the one seen in [[Walking Tall]]? Thanks, and good luck, I can't wait to see any future images you upload.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Update- MPM2008, you are now able to block vandals.

==Re:Special page==

Well, that's fine. But now that you're a mod and your images can be protected, I don't think there's much to worry about. I also think it would just be cool if new users understood right off the bat that IMFDB has essentially its own movie armorer. -MT2008

== Other Request ==

Hey, MPM2008, whenever you get the chance, is there a possiblity you can get me a Beretta 92FS Inox or Stainless model of the Beretta 92FS? Thanks in advance. Also, good work with your recent images, I really like the new Walther P99, I was going to ask for one, but you thought about it before I did. Keep up the great work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

==Sin City Yellow Bastard's custom 92FS==
YB's Beretta 92FS in [[Sin City]] is a unique blend of a factory black and an Inox model, similair to SIG-Sauer used in 2 fast 2 furious. Since AQ11 just asked for an Inox, if you get your hands on one, do yuo think you could mix the two together. This is the gun in the movie.
[[Image:SC92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note how it has reverse tutone rather than the typical factory style.]]

Thanks -GM45

== Re: Pop Quiz ==

I think that may be a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]], as it comes in both .357 Magnum and .38 Special and looks similar to the one used in ''[[Bad Boys]]'' by the main villian. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:Isn't the Mod 27 a larger frame? That's what's stumping me. It looks like the frame of a model 10. MPM2008.

::That one in the ''Bad Boys'' screenshot looks pretty huge, unless the actor has small hands. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

::Arghhh. I had better go back to the vault and check. I keep on thinking it's a Model 19-2, primarily because the Mod 27-2 barrel looks different than this one. Thanks so much for the effort. MPM2008

BTW, I'll let you know what I find out. :)

[[Image:S&WRev.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Smith & Wesson Model 27 .357 Magnum?]]
[[Image:BB_Python.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Fouchet dual wields with both his [[Beretta Cheetah]] and a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]].]]

==RE:animated gifs==
I have a lot of high-tec computer editing crap, I likely could do it. I just don't know how. My sister is computer wiz, I see if she can figure it out. I had all three of those Heat GIFs saved on my Myspace. Just a heads up, I'm gonna be doing [[The Punisher (2004)]] soon, so you can check that out. I can't make you any promises on the animated GIFs tho. -GM

==Re: Reign of Fire==
Thanks. Take your time on the Ultimax, it isn't a big deal right now. Wiki just made me an Admin. so I'm feeling pretty damn special right now. I'm going to get the Punisher (2004) on today, than I'm finally back on track with my original list. -GM45

=="Non Guns"==

I just made a page for the [["Non Guns"]], and I'm curious to know what you think of it. I don't know a whole lot about them besides what I've read online, whereas I imagine you've probably got some experience with them, since I've heard many armorers rent them for scenes where blanks are unsafe. Any thoughts? Would say the summary I've done at the top of the page is a pretty good description of what they do?

Cheers.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Haha, trust me, I hear you on the "fugly" part. I cringe every time I spot a Non Gun in a movie or TV show, because they're ''soooooo'' fake-looking and too many idiot directors don't even think to film them at angles/lighting conditions where it won't be so obvious what they are. But, like you've said, our goal here is to be educational and informative, and no matter how crappy Non Guns might look, they are still important to the topic of guns in cinema, and that's what we're here for. :) The images are from Weapons Specialists' web site, which apparently subrents them; ISS has their own pictures, but I prefer Weapons Specialists' because theirs don't have the measuring tape above the gun.

:Sorry to hear you've been sick, but don't worry...you never have to apologize for anything. I really like the idea of your "Hello IMFDB!" card and think it would be great for our site. I will, of course, not demand it or anything, but it would be awesome if we had something like that. I agree with the idea of using the IMFDB logo, though if I can think of anything else, I'll tell you. As usual, thanks for all the work you've been doing (for us AND Hollywood), and thanks for the kind words on my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== 2nd-Gen Glock 23 ==

Hey, I was wondering if you could possibly provide an image of a 2nd-Generation [[Glock#Glock 23|Glock 23]] for the article on ''[[The Fugitive]]'', since the image for that weapon on the page is of a 3rd-Generation model with accessory rails on the frame as opposed to the smooth-framed 2nd-Generation model seen in the screenshots? I already edited the [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22]] section similarly for that article and the sequel ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'', and was wondering if you could help me out with that one image so I don't have to chase down an image on Google. Thanks in advance. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:I asked for Second-Generation Glocks, those are 3rd generation (note the accessory rails at the front of the frame). Seeing as someone identified the compact Glock model in the film in question as a Glock 19 it's something of a moot point now. However, a 2nd-Generation [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] image would be appreciated as there's none available here yet and there's several pages here that could benefit from an image of that weapon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

== Get Well Soon ==

Hey MPM2008, I heard you were sick so I wanted to stop by and say get well soon.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

==My man!==

Awesome! The AKM and Type 84 look great; they're just what we needed. It's weird that I haven't been able to find a good picture of a standard fixed-stock Type 84 anywhere; yours might just be one of the best pics of this gun on the entire 'net right now. Question...is the AKM a Maadi, or is some other make? I would like to edit the entry on the AK-47 page to say if it is or not.

I will start phasing out the old pictures and replacing them, although it seems you guys have a head start on me. And thanks for the other new pictures as well - love that new PSG-1, the Uzi Carbine, and of course the "plain" 870 police (which, like you said, was something we REALLY needed). I'm also glad to see you're better, too. Take care. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

(BTW...dunno if you've noticed, but I only discovered this recently; if you hit the " ~ " key four times, it signs your posts automatically so that you don't have to type out your username. I've been using Wikis for several years now and I only just figured that out. Alienqueen discovered this long before I did, but just a heads-up.)

== Great work ==

Thanks for the police 870, it looks excellent. we really needed a standard since so many of the 870s on the site look like that. I'll be sure to replace all the 870s that need to be replaced with that. And also, I'm glad to hear you got better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Oops ==

I didn't read correctly who gave me the PSG1 pic

==Pics==

Hi,

First of all, thanks yet again for the new pics! The SR9s are nice, but...I had no idea that some SR9s in movies are actually converted from HK91s? If that's the case, then by all means, you should still go ahead and put down those pics under the SR9 section of the G3 page. But does this also mean that the SR9(T) from ''[[The Replacement Killers]]'' is one of these guns? Again, this is just a huge revelation for me. I still see no reason to put them under the HK91 entry, simply because if they're meant to be SR9s, just as the converted HK94s are meant to be MP5s, then I think it's appropriate to label them as such.

And, thanks for the Type 56 that looks like the ''[[Goldeneye]]'' ones. If you want to shoot it again with the regular non-blued bolt carrier, that's fine by me. However, I should also point out that the ones in ''Goldeneye'' also have red bakelite magazines, so you might wanna give it one of those, too. Then, you'll have something identical to the ''Goldeneye'' "AKS-74s". But I will still use the picture you have in the meantime. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

:Hmmm. Yeah, I guess I figured when I noticed the trigger, but I wasn't sure if the gun from ''[[The Replacement Killers]]'' was genuine or not. Was this sort of thing done because real SR9s were too expensive? I figured since the SR9 used to be a readily available civilian "assault rifle", armorers would use it.

:However, if your guns are a fairly accurate representation of the SR9s that have appeared in movies, then it's better that you've given us images of these particular guns. I agree with you that our goal should be to have the most accurate representations of movie guns possible, and since you're an armorer, we can anticipate that yours represent what movies use.-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

::''only 125 TCs were imported into the entire USA and only 100 T models''

::Wow, it was really that few? OK, that explains everything. I had no idea they were so rare to begin with. Even HKPRO, which has import data for most of the -90 series guns, didn't have that info. Thanks for those numbers.

::Like I've said, I think this means it's good that we have the pics you've taken because they are a very accurate representation of the SR9s actually used in movies. I would recommend you do one of those "Movie Armorer's Notes" in the SR9 section of the G3 page, just like you did for the Colt Commando section on the M16 page, explaining what you've told me. Hope it doesn't bother you that we're unmasking all of the various tricks that you armorers have been using over the years to convince moviegoers they're seeing one gun when it's actually another! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re: SR9==

I think part of the problem is that there just aren't enough people who take Wikis in general seriously. As far as HK aficionados go, one of my pet peeves is that way too many of them I meet are way too arrogant towards non-HK owners for not being able to appreciate the "Teutonic superiority" (as Larry Correia put it) of HK weapons. Sorry to say that I dunno if you can please some of them no matter what you do. :)

Personally, I accept that there's some stuff that even Hollywood's people have to do in order to make our movie experience satisfactory. Like when we were talking about the ''[[Jarhead]]'' Abrams tanks...it's a necessary evil for Hollywood vehicle wranglers to dress up an English Centurion to look like an M1A1 simply because unless you're Spielberg, it's very hard to get the DoD to lend you a real one for a show. And likewise, in 1984, it was not possible to get real Soviet AKMs, RPG-7s, and DShKs, so the Stembridge armorers had to find the next best thing. But I also enjoy uncovering these tricks simply because I'm an enthusiast of firearms and military equipment in general, so I always like seeing how Hollywood's people think on the fly in adverse circumstances. There's an art to it, no? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction on the Four Brothers' HK33, it was labeled as a HK41 long before I started editing the page, I just took the screenshot. And also, thanks for the new images, I'm putting up the new M16A2 on pages right now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

No problem, every image you upload is great. I also have a question, how do you get the pictures so perfect? Because your gun images are probably some of the best, if not the best gun images I ever seen on the internet. And yea, your new camera really does make a difference, the new versions of the images look great. Anyway, good job on your recent images, and can't wait to see your future M16s.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I see, you put alot of effort into your images and that's exactly what makes them great. I agree that alot of gun sites have bad images, some gun books don't have the best pictures either. One problem with some sites is that they also don't use the best examples, like they'll have a picture of gun but it'll have a whole bunch of modifications on it when the unmodified one is what's really needed, and I agree which should replace as many as the old images as possible. And I think visitors do notice your images because if you look at your Remington 870 Riot Model's file page, it has almost 200 views anad it's only been there since Sunday. And good work on the new M4, if you noticed, Hieloco (the user who kept trying to replace your images with "Net" Images) uploaded a version of the ColtM4 file with similar attachments, but yours beats his by by a long shot. And also is that the same M4 you mentioned on MT2008's talk page that the actor dropped? Just wondering.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==re:M16A2==

First of all, thanks so much for the new M16A2! The AR15 A2 picture was nice, too, but I just thought it'd be better to have the real deal, and it's nice that we have it now. AlienQueen's already been getting to work on replacing the old M16A2 with the new one, and I'll help out, too. The Luger is another image we needed - and the fact that it's from ''Hogan's Heroes'' is especially cool! As far as the HK91 goes, I didn't notice the shadow, but the new one is fine by me. There's only one that troubles - I think the newer Taurus 85 image is a bit fuzzier compared to the old one.

As far as future stuff goes, I have another recommendation. You know how we have an AR15 section under the M16 rifle page? I'd like to get some more un-modified, basic civvie AR15 variants on there, especially Colt Sporters, because I've seen them used in quite a few movies and TV shows that stand in for mil-spec M16s. We've already got an SP1 with an A2 hand guard that you took for the ''[[Heat]]'' page, but I think we should also have SP1s without the forward assist (both A1 and A2 forearms) and a carbine with a 16" barrel. What do you think? (Sadly, I have added more guns to your to-do list...inevitable.)

And yes, we definitely have some of the best gun pics on the 'Net thanks to you. I must admit I'm still smitten with the fact that Norinco Type 84 pics are basically non-existent in just about any gun image site around (even World Guns, which is usually pretty reliable)...except here. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, one other thing occurred to me, something we need more than the Colt Sporter ARs...do you think you could get some pics of [[Thompson Submachine Gun]]s? All of our Tommy images are jacked from elsewhere on the Net. It's about time they were replaced. Of course, I know we've already given you a ridiculous number of requests, so I won't bug you too much. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==Sergio Leone Trilogy==
I finished the Leone Trilogy yesterday and I was wondering if you could I.D. the machine gun used in ''[[A Fistful of Dollars]]'', someone said it was a fake but wasn't very specific. I figured if it was some type of fake movie gun, you'd know best.

:Also, excellent Single Action Army picture, that's a beautiful gun. Care to tell me a little about the one you uploaded? Thanks. -GM

P.S. Check out [[Last Man Standing]], I just got that done.

Good job on the Luger P08, it looks great. I don't think the finishes are a big deal, to tell you the truth, I don't even notice it. And it's cool that it was used in Hogan's Heroes, because not only is it a special gun, but someone's destined to make a Hogan's Heroes page eventually, and it will be of a great use when someone does. Keep up the great work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

::Speaking of LMS, his two .45s uniquely have diamond grips and I was wondering if you could take a special picture of A1s with diamond grips. I made a rough draft picture of what I had in mind.
[[Image:CrossM1911A1s-w-diamondgrips-roughdraft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Cross placed, fitted with diamond grips.]]
Let me know what you can do. -GM

==re: Taurus 85 & G3==

Haha...whoops, you're right. I keep forgetting, but...when you upload a new version of an existing image, IMFDB doesn't instantly replace it. Instead, the old image goes fuzzy for a period of time (which seems to vary from hours to days; no clue why) before the new image replaces it. I saw your Taurus Mod 85 pic when it was in this fuzzy "transitional" phase and the thought slipped my mind that this happens. The filter from my brain to my mouth (or rather, my keyboard) doesn't work sometimes, I guess.

As far as the G3 page goes, it is unfortunate. One thing I find annoying about Wikis is that there's apparently no way to confine an image to a particular section of a page when you use the "align" code, so when we follow page conventions and force an image to shift left, right, or center, it totally fucks up the formatting if the images are bigger than the text (which is going to be common for guns that don't have very many movie appearances listed). The only thing you can do is just add lots of space in between each section manually so that the images fit into the section.

But I do agree with you on one thing...why do we need a regular sporter SR9 with the thumbhole stock? Have you seen a movie with one? Do you or any of your fellow armorers have any in stock? Better yet, is there any movie or TV show that would NEED some heavily neutered civilian version of a G3? I kinda doubt it, so I would say it doesn't make sense to include the image. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I ditched the other two SR9 pics. Til we get movies with them (and I know I haven't heard of any yet), no point in having them on there.

:Nice that you found those long-barreled AK folders. I'm pretty sure that Vollmer had at least one at sale (years ago, back when their sales site was still online), but they are quite rare in this country indeed. As far as the pics from World Guns go...it's a mix, just like here. Some of them are pics that the site's editors took themselves, others are jacked from other sites, and some are scanned from books or gun rags. I've usually just used them because (before us), they were one of the most comprehensive gun sites on the net. But I definitely think that because of you, IMFDB now has not only good movie gun images, but some of the best gun images, PERIOD.

:Good luck on your current projects, and don't let those idiot Obama-supporting actors fuck up any more of your guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==The special page==

Remember how a while ago I asked you if I could try making a page that explained to new IMFDB users just how significant it was that we have a movie armorer who photographs his company's guns for us? Well, I finally got around to trying it out. Here it is:

[[MoviePropMaster2008: IMFDB's Own Armorer]]

The title is kinda cheesy, I admit, but it was the best I could think of. The other issue is that I'm not always sure my facts are straight, so if you want to correct anything, go right ahead. And I realize this might be kind of a lame idea - but I just feel it's important for everyone to understand how important your work is to this site. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

:Oh, trust, I fully understand what you mean about wanting to remain anonymous. Even if you weren't a pro-RKBAer working in an industry that is hostile to gun ownership (and non-liberals in general), it would still be perfectly reasonable to want to remain anonymous. When you're a professional of any sort, working in any industry, you don't want to do post something on a web site under your own name that could get you in trouble. As far as the page goes, however, I don't think it should be too big a deal for your anonymity as long as you avoid giving us your name. It's mostly just a way for us to brag that we have someone who can provide us with such great pictures, and to make sure that our new users understand the significance of those pictures. :-) But if you really are uncomfortable with it, that's fine, too...I can ditch it. It took all of 15 minutes to make.

:BTW, I dunno if you're OK telling me this or not (if not I understand), but are you a member of the American Entertainment Armorers' Association? I remember Dan Shea announcing its creation on a forum I used to visit, a couple years ago now. I understand that it was created specifically to address the threat from Cali's gun laws upon your businesses? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==More SAAs==
Your Colt Peacemakers are great, my western pages greatly need them. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Be sure to check out [[Hellboy II: The Golden Army]], I just finished it. -GM

==Image use on WIkipedia?==
Hi, I am an editor on the English Wikipedia. I came across this great site as it completes the media appearances lacking in our firearms pages. You've got some fantastic images of some obscure equipment in the idea configuration - that is, clear background and side profile shots. These would really help us illustrate some of our pages that are lacking in media content. Would you be kind enough to allow us to use these images on Wikipedia? We could upload them under an attribution license and provide a link to this Wiki in return. Kind regards, Koalorka from the WP:Firearms teams. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.219.131|99.232.219.131]] 12:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:Any chance of obtaining a response? I can be reached at koalora at rogers.com. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.219.131|99.232.219.131]] 12:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

::If you are hesitant or have any further questions regarding licensing, feel free to ask. Wikipedia is by principle an entirely non-profit organization as you are probably aware and we could not compensate you financially for the images. I do recognize that there was some considerable effort involved in collecting some of these rare specimens (still salivating over the CETME Ameli) and then setting up a studio with professional lighting, hardware etc. What we can offer to do is attribute you properly and generate additional traffic and awareness for this site and any other organization you specify (even the armory/studio that owns the firearms). If you agreed to have your images uploaded to our server, every one of them would be licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license that requires the copyright holder to be properly credited every time the image is displayed, in either modified or unmodified form. The license does not impair or restrict your moral rights. Here is the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ license description]. We can do a "test" image so to speak, upload an individual image to see if that satifies your expectations.

:In other words, don't make me beg.. :D At least the Ameli, pretty please.

:Regards.
:: To Koaloarka, I appreciate your kind words and gracious offer. As you can probably tell, I've been thinking about the offer. I'm obviously not jumping at the opportunity or else I would have communicated much earlier than now. I must assess what I've been trying to do for the last six months. Since I joined IMFDB I've been working extraordinarily hard to provide the site with exclusive gun images that are available nowhere else. Everyone here knows the hard work, time and $$ spent on trying to get the best quality images of the weapons available anywhere (on the net). And obviously I do it for the benefit of IMFDB. I'm torn by the upside of increased awareness to the site, but I am also not eagerly anticipating the inevitable diluting of the 'exclusivity' of IMFDB's images when they start showing up everywhere on the web.

:: Some background to my thinking - I would not have done the images for a simple firearms site. I probably would not have worked so hard for six months to get these types of images for a gun wiki. IMFDB's unique focus is that it mixes weapons and CINEMA, especially movie trivia and factoids which are not part of the 'regular gun owner's lexicon. '''That is the field I'm in''', and I welcomed the idea of a place where I can contribute my experience and information (mostly 'lost' on the 'regular firearms crowd'). Many of my images are hybrid guns (M16a2s with A1 features or vice versa), or some of custom guns made for the movies (Custom Type 84s or AMD-65s), or weird combinations of uppers and lowers (like the M16 variants, or the 2 toned handguns,etc). which are not factory standards nor are they historically accurate. I remember once, when a firearms historian and enthusiast looked at some of my handguns (SIG P226s and USPs) and was wondering what was wrong with my barrels. He didn't fathom nor appreciate the fact that these were REAL movie guns. He was just disdainful that they were 'ruined' because of the customization needed for blank firing in movies. Anyway, I was toying with the possibility of a limit release of images with a specific watermark or copyright. I was thinking of using similar but not identical images (but still identifying IMFDB.org as the source of the image) with a translucent copyright logo, but that would take some time. But I have not decided yet and I hope you understand my reluctance at this time. I've only been doing this for six months and I don't think I'm ready right now to 'give away' the work I've done when I'm not complete updating the gun images for IMFDB. Perhaps when I've stopped or retired from getting gun pics for IMFDB ....
::''Now there are some sites who already have MY permission to use some MY images, but each one of those entities provided weapons to be photographed, so they helped me personally with the photography itself. (some FFLs, a few collector friends, other armorers, etc.) So you might see a recognizable shot somewhere else, but they will be watermarked and copyrighted as license granted to that entity.

::Anyway I'm still thinking about it. Give me a little time. I am also conferring with other Administrators of IMFDB and I welcome their input. Ultimately, I will have to make some sort of decision (as the original photographer and copyright holder) as to where I wish to release the rights. Hope that helps.

::[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

:::I agree with what you say about how many people in the gun-owning community aren't going to appreciate what these guns are if they see them on any random gun site. Like, who the hell is going to understand that in Hollywood, HK91s are converted to look like SR9s, or AR15 SP1 carbines converted to look like XM177s? However, one thing I think you should consider is that some of the guns you've photographed are hard to find pictures of, and your pictures represent not only good "movie gun" images, but good gun images, period. The Type 84 pics you've taken are a very good example, because like I said earlier, good pics of the Type 84 seem extraordinarily hard to come by. The new FG42 image is also one that I think can be considered particularly special.

:::I would say that at the very least, you should consider it on a case-by-case basis; whether the gun image you have stands as both an important gun image as well as an important "movie gun" image. But ultimately, these are your images, so the decision is yours. Take my opinion only for what it's worth. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

::::I was not asking for a blanket-release of your work into the public domain or any such thing, just a few individual photographs of authentic and obscure and unmodified firearms, i.e. the CETME Ameli, FG42. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 18:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::I KNEW that. But work on Wikipedia WILL be jacked and seen all over the web. And the more removed the image is from the original source (here) the harder it is to force people to remove pirated images on their own sites. I fully intend to slam pirates who steal my images (which is my right), but it's harder when they can say'' "Oh I got it from Wikipedia, who are you? What authority do YOU have to tell me not to use a stolen pic?"'' It might be helpful to make a list of what you are interested in. I am considering creating an alternate image of the same gun with watermarks and attributions for 3rd parties (though it's not something I was planning to do at this time). Let me know your list and we can discuss it. thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

::::::The attribution license is for that purpose specifically, if you are not properly attributed when the image is displayed, that person has violated your rights to the image and is liable for prosecution under international or US copyright laws. Keep in mind that those willing to pirate your images will do so whether or not you agree with it, this will happen at a higher frequency once your sites gains in popularity; by letting Wikipedia use your images, your images will proliferate the net with the proper license, exposing your work and Imfdb.org to the mainstream. Right now, we can do just one image to determine if you'd be satisfied with the end result; how about the Ameli? The CETME Ameli page does not receive too many hits due to the scarcity of the gun. Kind regards. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 19:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

::Any progress here? You asked for a list, we would just like the AMELI at this time. Regards. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.219.131|99.232.219.131]] 17:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==Smiths==

Thanks so much for the Smiths, but especially the Model 29! All the ones on the page before now were 629s, and I figured we needed an original blued M29. In fact, it seems almost like blasphemy that this is exactly what Dirty Harry used and we haven't had the right gun until tonight. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:Oh, yeah, forgot about that other S&W 29, hehe. But still, an MPM2008 photo of a Smith is always preferable to some random image from Google. And to answer your question - yes, you should feel free to replace old pictures jacked from Google with yours. There's no reason why anyone should complain, because...

:*(A.) Your pictures are always vastly superior to the old ones
:*(B.) It takes no effort to copy an image off the web, whereas taking your own pics is a time-consuming process (especially the way you do it)
:*(C.) You're an administrator now, so you have the final word anyway.

:As far as the other Wiki guy's offer goes, I agree that you should only do it if you can mark the images as your own first, or if they give you proper credit (and link to this site, guaranteeing us more hits :). Come to think of it, it might not be a bad idea to do that with ALL of your gun images from now on, just to make sure that we mark them definitively as ours. But although I like being able to think of your gun images as exclusively IMFDB's, not so sure I like the idea of clamping down on other users. I mean, let's face it, we'd look like hypocrites because many of the images on IMFDB are still jacked from other sites (though this will change eventually, of course). World Guns would probably throw a fit if they saw this site. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I suppose you're right...if World Guns did ask us to remove all of the images we've used without permission, I would immediately comply with their request. However, you gotta admit that it's still going to be kind of flattering if people decide that IMFDB is a great source of gun images (not just "movie gun" images) and want to use our pics.

:BTW, have you talked to any of the other armorers about IMFDB? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:04, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
I never knew they tend to used A1 muzzle breaks but it does make sense, A1 star flashes look cool (I'm still in awe over the shot when the muzzle flash is out 2ft in each direction)

I hope you don't mind that I edited your pictures together, I just used what I had. I'll just leave them on the page like that until you take some SP1 pics. Thanks. More to come on the Predator page. -GM

Same film different subject. Do you know who mounted the Shotgun under Billy's Rifle. It looks like a Ciener Ultimate only it uses a Mossberg 500 and it's several years before Jane's says such systems came out. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 08:31, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

==Hollow Point==
[[Image:Type84HybridRifle.jpg]]

Thanks for the Type 84S specific to the [[Hollow Point]] page. I really apprieciate it. Was the gun actually used in the movie or do you mean it is made to look the same? -GM

==The Mask==
I have it on my list, so I'll get it done eventually. -GM

Alienqueen11 here, sorry if I got in the way when you were uploading gun images when I was uploading those Resident Evil screenshots. --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Thanks for the new guns==

I really like those new SIGs you uploaded (just ditched the old P220R image and replaced it with yours on all pages), as well as the Type 84 folder and the Madsen M50 (the movie ''[[City of God]]'' features those, so we gotta get that image on that page whenever someone screencaps it).

Also, can you by chance tell me what kind of shotgun this is (from my page for ''[[The Crow]]''):

[[Image:Vlcsnap-269025.png|thumb|none|500px|]]

Who makes that bullpup stock? I think it's a Muzzelite, but I dunno, and a Google search seems to turn up negative for info or images on this gun. I know I've seen it in at least a couple of action movies from the 1990s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, OK, thanks for clarifying the type of gun used to kill Lee. I figured it was the 629 that killed him because I have heard from various articles that the gun was definitely a .44 Magnum, and the character of Funboy uses the 629 throughout the movie. Any idea why they switched to another gun for that one scene? Seems like it would have been identifiable as a continuity error had the scene been finished and Lee had not been killed.

:And don't worry; I do fully appreciate (have heard it many times) that the entire reason that the accident happened was because the production sent the armorer home in order to save money. And I have heard it was the fault of some clueless property assistant(s) who were responsible for the fuck-up that got Lee killed.

:Also, I appreciate the ID on Grange's shotgun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Dibbs==
I didn't think of it that way but I completely understand what you mean. I'll change the word. Dibbs is kind of declaring it is mine, simply saying that a movie is on my to-do list changes it sort of. The only movies I would really want to declare "dibbs" on are the ones I ordered on DVD, even when I own them on VHS already, just so I can screencap them. I'll remove my dibbs messages and just let people know I plan to do it, and if no one else plans to do it, I would like to. "Dibbs" was simply a poor choice of words. It's not like I'm locking the page from someone else to work on though. When Orca1 9904 asked to do [[Tears of the Sun]], I let him. (AQ11 even cut off the widescreen bars now). When you asked to do Rambo III, I let you. (P.S. Let me know if you need me to finish that.) I agree tho, it was a dumb idea.
P.S. I screencapped Iron Man, sorry. -GM

== One more request ==

Hey MPM2008, when I asked for the Beretta 92FS Inox, I happened to notice GM45 asked for a reversed Two Tone Beretta 92FS for use on the [[Sin City]]. If you happen to get ahold of them, I would like to know if you can combine them the factory style way as well and photograph it if you can, because a Beretta like that would be useful for pages such as [[Hostage (2005)]]. Here's a screenshot of the gun in the movie:

[[Image:HostageBerettatutone-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:HostageBerettatutone-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

That's an awesome shot as always, aAnd you're right that has to be the best shot of the gun on the entire internet. I like it the way it is, and excellent work on your most recent images too, I really like the M16A4. Also, are you still considering the Wikipedia user's offer?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:53, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==AK-104==
It looks great. The magazine is no big deal. Even with that magazine, you still have the only well-taken AK-104 on the net. Don't worry about fixing it right away, it looks awesome even with the wrong mag. One thing though. You never know when one day a movie could have an AK-104 with a waffle mag so don't just cover over it if you take a new pic. You replaced the MAC-10 with the after market mag with the newer image, but you never know when one could be seen using one. Just a pointer. I'm almost done with [[Hot Fuzz]], then I'm gonna do [[Tropic Thunder]], [[Crank]], [[Shawshank Redemption]], and [[The Dirty Dozen]]. Should have them all done by the end of the month. (With deer season, my job to fix guns has been pulling me away. Plus, I hunt myself on occasion.) Keep up the good work. -GM

:If I use the word "sexy" to describe a gun picture, what does that say about me? LOL.

:I like it. And I agree with Alienqueen; I wouldn't worry too much about the mag. However, I must say that I'm a little more excited about some of the other pics you uploaded while I was at work today...thanks so much for re-doing that Type 56-1 picture for the ''[[Goldeneye]]'' page with the AK-74 muzzle break and plastic mag, and I also really appreciate you getting the Benelli M1 Super 90 (oddly enough, we don't have a page for that gun, for whatever reason). And the new XM177 pic is something we REALLY needed; time to ditch that old XM177 picture we've been using to represent "Colt Commandos" in movies (I think it's actually a Tokyo Marui airsoft replica, anyway).

:But...for now, I must do more GRE studying and personal statements for grad school apps. Sadly, I'm getting way too busy to make regular contributions these days, but real life keeps calling. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

:I wouldn't worry too much about the stock, because if you notice every image you upload always finds a use. There's no telling if a movie will come up with an AK 104 in the same configuration, plus if it's a movie gun, the movie it was used in will have to come up eventually. But if you want to upload a new one, that's entirely up to you.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

:So finishes can cause that much trouble when combining parts? Makes you wonder how they do it because I see soo many Berettas in wierd configurations in movies, I remember seeing a Beretta 92FS Inox with a black barrel in Kiss of The Dragon. And also, how rare is it to see a two tone Beretta 92FS? Because even if you search it on Google, there aren't many images of one.

And about the FG421, that is one wierd looking gun, is it German made? Because it resembles the MG42's from [[Saving Private Ryan]] a little bit, but I must say the grip dosen't look too comfortable with the way it's positioned. But another great image none the less.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==FG-42==
Nice piece. It must be rare, I don't ever see them in my typical order books like Southern Ohio Guns or any other vintage firearms catalogs. Like AQ said, I think the grip is positioned ackwardly and seems uncomfortable. Like all the other cool German guns, I can't own it sadly. I don't see why they would make it a paratrooper gun, way too big. Nice pic. Glad you didn't ignore it in the back. -GM

==No Problem==
You're welcome. Despite not being such a great movie, it was quite interesting gun-wise :))

==Taps and Mr. & Mrs. Smith==
I don't own Tapps and have never seen it but I own the Extended Cut of Mr. & Mrs. Smith, which includes a scene with a Mini-gun and cool other things. It is on my list and once my to-do list pile is reduced, I'll get on it. Right now I'm working on Tropic Thunder and The Shawshank Redemption. -GM

==The FG42==

Damn, that thing is beautiful! Reminds me why one can never fail to give the Nazis points for ingenuity when it came to weapons. I seriously want one, along with a Sturmgewehr. Good news though! Have you heard about this? http://www.ssd-weapon.com/engl_web/produkte_en/fg42_en/fg42_en.htm Apparently, they've got civvie reproductions of these guns now! Dunno if/when they'll get imported/manufactured in the States. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

:Your choice, I guess. Are they being imported to the states yet, though? The site doesn't list a U.S. distributor, and I haven't seen any for sale yet. But yeah, it would be cool to have a picture of a nice new FG42, plus you can get the 2nd version which you told Alienqueen you didn't have.

:BTW, speaking of rare German weapons, do you have access to a Sturmgewehr (either -42 or -44)? There aren't too many movies with them that I'm aware of (besides ''[[Escape to Athena]]''), but they do appear in lots of WWII-themed games. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Remington 870==
Closest thing I can find is this bird gun in [[The Unit]].
[[Image:Unit-Mack'sshotty2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

:I read your story on Brandon Lee, that's tragic. I sometimes make dummy bullets and I ''always'' fire the primers before I reload the bullet. Your supposed to use super glue to make sure the round stays in the brass. Then you go to a wire wheel and polish the brass and get rid of any super glue that seeped out. I wonder why they never made "dud" primers that could look live but not go "bang" when the hammer falls on them. I first made dummy rounds with 8mm rounds for my Kar98k, but I didn't super-glue them in, and eventually they all fell into the shells and got stuck. It sucked. I'm sick with something bad and Tropic Thunder is gonna have to wait because I feel like crap. Have a good day. -GM
==Re:Morita==
Thanks, I'm feeling a little better. I was filling out some of the fictional firearms pages and I figured of all of them, you'd like the Morita page since I remembered you said you owned one. I deleted my page because yours came out better than mine. You know more about the movie any way, I have yet to see it fully and last time I saw it was too long ago to remember. -GM
:Nice SMLE pic! And I forgot to mention, the Colt Navy is beautiful. -GM

==Bankok Dangerous==
You made the page look much better now. Your shots are ''far'' clearer than mine. Thanks. -GM

==Tropic Thunder==
A Sporter II pic would be much apprieciated. To test the whole blank safety distance, I tested various blank calibers to a piece of paper and found 10 yards to be the ''dead zone''. Since I'm trying to make a movie with a few friends of mine (maybe something to show a film school), I'm going to use some blanks and want to know my limits. Obviously, since I'm the only one with true experiance and weapons intelligence, I'll be handling the blanks, post-production edits on my computer will fill the rest. I'll try my best to make them look like they know what their doing with guns, but they are pretty dumb. If you have any movie making tips, please let me know.
:P.S. I plan to make it a DVD and might even screencap it as a section on my profile. -GM

==Re:590==
Go for it, fine by me. Your pics are always better than what we find on google. -GM

==The new Cobray M11 picture==

The new Cobray M11/9 picture looks really cool! Thanks so much for that! Also, do you think it's appropriate to classify the M11/9 under the MAC-10 page? I have been thinking about giving that guns its own page for a while now. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

:First of all, I completely missed the MAC-11. I've just been getting busier and busier (currently at work - on a Saturday! - indexing prior art PDF files now), and you upload so many images that I've missed a few here and there. I did like the SG550, though, and the the AMD-65 pics were also something nice (it's cool that you found the same style BFA as the Israelis). But that Type 56 is just...ugh, who the hell treats a nice gun that way? (in Africa or Afghanistan, sure, but not here in the states!) It's odd because I had no clue that the Type 56 was imported to the U.S. back when Uncommon Valor was filmed (82-83). I remember hearing it wasn't until 1984 that they reached these shores.

:As far as the Cobray page goes, I know what you mean about the mistake, but then again, we have the [[Taurus PT92]] page separate from the Beretta 92 page even though the PT92 is commonly mistaken for the 92F. The best thing to do would put a note at the top of the page suggesting people look at the Cobray page just in case.

:Appreciate the effort on the Thompson pics...like I said, we REALLY need some good ones. I hate the fact that someone put an Auto-Ordnance semi-auto Thompson clone with a long barrel to represent an "M1921". Also, from now on, whenever you upload pictures, please do the same thing you did with the Cobray; just upload them as a new version over the old ones. The way, we don't have to go back and replace the old image with your new image on every single page that has the old one. And like I said before, nobody should mind if you get rid of the old images, because yours are always better and you're an admin anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

::Yeah, it makes sense, what you're saying. Were the Type 56s from ''[[Deer Hunter]]'' also the same as the ones from ''[[Uncommon Valor]]''? I mean, let's face it...you don't see that many Chinese AKs (or AK-type firearms, period) in American movies before about the mid-80s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

==That Type 56==
Holy shit, who handled that gun to make it that FUBAR?! One of my main jobs in my dad's shop is to clean up guns, so I understand how horrible that is. Mail it to me, I'll clean it up. -GM

Woah, that thing looks like it's 70 years old with every thing it been through. What did they do to it? I'll give it credit for one thing, that's a very good example of how durable and rugged an AK type assault rifle can be, especially with that kind of treatment.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

==Couple of questions regarding Walther pistols==

1) Has the current-generation P99 been converted or modified into a movie blank-firing gun that you know of? I ask because I see on the back cover of one of Wesley Snipes' DTV movies that he's holding one that appears to be a new-model P99, but it also looks like they took an UMAREX airsoft model and painted the tip black. Insight?

2) Word on a couple of forums is that the Walther PPS makes an appearance in Quantum of Solace, wielded by Olga Kurylenko. If possible, could you confirm? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

::I don't know, but I will keep it in mind when I ask around. MPM2008

==Request==

[[User:Revolver|Revolver]] here
Just curious, could you get a good picture of the M4s used by the Air force in Iron Man? The ones with the ISM-V Scopes?
Possibly other pictures from the movie? Like the G36Ks and G36Cs?
::I'll add it to the gigantic list of things to do. best regards. MPM2008

==.577 Rifle==
That would be awesome. Do you think you could one pic before he mounts a scope and one when he does? You'd have the best picture of such a rifle on the internet. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 00:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== Another Request ==

I was wondering, would it be possible for you to get your hands on a stainless steel [[Jericho 941]]? There's at least a couple pages here such as ''[[The Kill Point]]'' and ''[[Transporter 2]]'' that could benefit from it. I'm also still waiting for a 1st-gen [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] (or whichever version of the 19 it is that doesn't have rails on the frame). Thanks in advance. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904
:I didn't know it was an order, rather than a request (re the Glock) and I don't have a 2nd gen of my own or I would have posted it already. I have to track down someone with one and take the time to do the photoshoot, a real hassle BTW. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== About Png ==
Hi, for some strange reason VLC does not catches screenshots in jpg, only in png. In the future I will convert them in jpg before uploading. [[User:Fimvit|Fimvit]]

==Re: Goldeneye==

That's fine. In all honesty, it's a bad habit that I'm afraid I have, and I seem to be influencing other forum members to do it even though it does ruin the "encyclopedic" format of the pages, as you've said. I'll try to remember in the future; bad habits die hard for me. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ==

I know, I had already changed the settings. Regardless, it takes the snapshots in png. Can't figure out why...
Kind regards [[User:Fimvit|Fimvit]]

==Crank==
Hahahahahahaha, Blu-ray. I can't afford half a Blu-ray player. I'm still using DVDs, I guess this one just looks a little better. I've noticed some people use png files now, but they take too long to load and if you click on the image, it's just as clear as a jpg, so that's what I use. Thanks. Sorry I'm taking so long with it, I keep getting sidetracked. Go check out AQ11's profile talk and see my list of movies in my pile. Ugh. It's gonna be a long month. -GM

==Thanks==

Thanks so much for the new images (i.e. the USAS-12), and thanks for getting the Benelli shotgun page in order. It really needed an overall badly, and it's crazy that we never even had an entry anywhere for the M1 series before now. Also, nice work on ''[[Ultraviolet]]''; I've had that DVD in my collection for a while, but, like a lot of movies, simply never got around to capping it. No matter; yours are better than mine would have been.

Hope you've had a great Thanksgiving! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, I agree, the Molotov cocktail doesn't need a page. This is the Internet Movie ''Firearms'' Database, not the Internet Movie ''Weapons'' Database. Also, dunno if you saw, but some anonymous user tried to delete your user page, and has thus been nuked. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

::Oh, yeah, almost forgot...I'm not really sure how to see page views besides going to "Special Pages" (under Toolbox on the left side) and there's a "Popular pages" section, but that's not quite what you need... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re: Molotovs==
I understand what you mean fully but many pages link to the Molotov page and it's one of those mistakes that kind of has to be there now. I'm making [[The Whole Nine Yards]] as we speak and that had a molotov. I don't think it is a weapon deserving a spot but too many pages already have it and it's just easier if it is there. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 22:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Question about the SIGs from Double Team==

First of all, nice job so far on the ''[[Double Team]]'' page, even though it's not yet complete.

Anyway, I was looking at this picture:

[[Image:DoubleTeam-Gun-WallA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

What type of laser controls are those on the grip of the SIGs? I ask because I've seen the same setup on a SIG P228 that Denzel Washington uses in the movie ''[[Virtuosity]]'', and I was wondering who makes it. Or was it something done just for both movies? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==The Thompsons==

YES! They're awesome. Thanks so much...we ''really'' needed some good pics of Thompson SMGs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Response (Sorry for being late) ==

Thanks for wishing me a Happy Thanksgiving, I hope you had a great one as well. As for improvised weapons, I agree with you, Propane tanks even though they were made to be bombs shouldn't be listed as weapons. But I agree the molotov should stay since it's already a page for it and it's on quite a few pages. Also good work on Starship Troopers, the page looks great, and the Thompson pictures are great as well. Keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

==Thompson==
Sounds good to me, we need some Thompsons. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 21:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

:Please, in the future, never hesitate to replace the old pics with yours. Yours are always better, plus when you just upload over the old ones, we don't have to replace the gun pics on each movie/TV/video game page individually. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

== Good Job ==

Good job on replacing all the [[Thompson]]s, the new pictures look great. Also, are you still going to upload an M16A3? And also did some of the M16 type guns you uploaded come from Iraq? I mean like the M16A4, and the M4A1 with the scope and RIS Foregrip.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

==Taegukgi==
I can barely stand anime let alone flash animation shorts. I think it disrespects the hard work we do to screencap movies (and you great efforts to make sure we have images galore) and we have a page for some little short? I don't see why someone would watch it and wonder "Would someone like to know what guns are used in this?" Maybe if someone froze and capped the short it MIGHT be acceptable.

P.S I've been working on [[Wanted]] for 2 days, there are so many guns and continuity errors (guns switch to others in seconds), it is driving me crazy. While most I can figure out, some user input such as your own would be much apprieciated. I feel like I'm lying to the people who read my message at the top of the page that says "I'll have it done today" and can't because I busy. I hope they all understand. I'll make sure I give them the excellent page they've been waiting for (and get rid of the abismal bootleg images). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I think at the very least, a re-direct is in order. The flash animation should be something like "Taegukgi (Flash Animation)". But personally, I'm really kinda skeptical of including stuff that's not professional media. Next thing we know, any kid who makes action movies with his friends and their airsoft guns is gonna try and make an IMFDB page. This is an even bigger problem with mods for first-person shooter games, because there are lots of user-made mods on the 'Net.

:That reminds me...when I get done with the GRE, I need to get the FAQ done that I've been meaning to do. Once I draft it, I would like all the Admins on here to take a look, and we should all agree on particular terms. In it, I will specify rules on stuff like including Flash Animation. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

::Agreed. I have already warned several users that I will not allow images from bootleg copies of movies not out on DVD to be posted on IMFDB, but I missed ''[[Tunnel Rats]]'' because I had no idea what it was or when it was coming out. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

::I also think Anime is ok because it is something licienced, and more official. It's like saying Anime is to films and TV shows is to Flash and Fan made shorts with their home cameras and posted on youtube. I mean, should we start looking up shorts that people film themselves and then upload on Youtube? I don't think so. It's annoying, kinda insulting and a waste of time at the same time to even think of it. I do some of the Anime because I believe how they draw the weapons make them worthy of mention and images worth showing to see how real they drew them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

:Just the same, I know you can tell my ONE Glock is real over the others listed that aren't. I don't go to the range as often as I want. Bullets are expensive and so is renting time on the range closest to me. I only play with Airsoft because it's the only time where I get to shoot people and not feel the slightest remorse whatsoever. I'm killing them in a manner of speaking. I have ran into the types of guys that only knows Airsoft brand names. I on the other hand am really interested in the real life counter parts that inspires Airsoft, this is where I found out so much info on real guns...but I still have trouble telling Berettas from Taurus and between shotguns sometimes. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

== FN FAL ==

Could take a picture of an FN-FAL?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Predator==
Thanks, it wasn't on my list but I saw the page was incomplete so I made time for it. Sorry I edited your pictures, but it looks better than an empty spot for now.

Also, excellent job with the Uzi pic, it looks great. I too never liked that Uzi pic before. I just finished screencapping [[Unforgiven]] so be sure to check that out. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"==
Do you think you could check your armory for a [[Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"]] rifle? Also, a lot of the ones in films are used as Henry rifles by removing the forend, the advantage being the lack of a spring follower pinching the shooter's hand. So if you do find a Yellow Boy, could you remove the forend and snap a shot of that as well? Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== H&K USP and H&K MK 23 ==

Could you replace the pictures of the H&K USP .45 and the H&K MK23 with better images. Thanks.

==Type 84 Target/Match==

So you finally got to take pictures of them. Nice! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

And thanks for the new .308 Valmet. Those appear in lots of movies, so I can use it on my ''[[Hard Target]]'' and ''[[The Negotiator]]'' pages.

==The HK94/MP5 conversion==

Thank you so much for this! I wanted it as much as GM did. Where did you find it? And you've actually confirmed already that it's one of the ''[[Air Force One]]'' MP5s? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

:Nah, of course that doesn't ruin it. If it's a movie gun, and it's the same type of conversion seen in those action movies from the 1980s and 90s, it's fine by me. It's the same ''type'', and that's more than enough for us. As far as Jedi Mind Powers, yeah, I guess I got something like that. Actually, I've just been glued to Facebook extending Christmas wishes to people most of today, and I check IMFDB pretty regularly. Also was working on ''[[24: Redemption]]'' earlier today.

:As far as your watermarking idea goes, I encourage it. However, there may be some way to actually disable right clicking on just your images so people can't save them to their HDs and re-post them later. Or, there may be a way of embedding copyrights into them. Not sure. But we'll figure out something. Asking Bunni about this would be the way to go, I think.

:Hope you've had a great Christmas. Over here on the East Coast, I've only got 1 hr. left before it ends, but you're in Cali, so I guess you still get a few hours left to enjoy today. And thanks for all the wonderful Christmas presents you've given IMFDB (again, I appreciate the HK94, the M78, and the long-barreled Type 84s). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:08, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

:The HK94 is great, I felt really bad chopping your pictures. Now I can get rid of them. And I read about your water marking idea. You should put one of your own personal insignias and maybe an imfdb logo. I hope you had a happy holiday. I got lots of movies to screencap including [[The Great Escape]]. I'm going to buy Romeo + Juliet and a few other gun movies with the money I got as well. I'm stilling working on Starsky and Hutch right now though. Great work with Stripes btw, I loved that movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Terminator 2 page==
What do you think of the T2 page? Did I over do it on the "fun facts"? As far as the guns go, did I get my info right? Colt Commandos are kind of hard to ID for me. Hope you have a happy new year. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==re: the images==

First, thanks again for the new images. It's nice to have a USP45 (especially since ''[[Collateral]]'' is one of the more popular pages on here, and Tom Cruise used one in that movie). The FNC is another nice one to have. Did you ever find out if the ''[[Heat]]'' FNCs were chopped-down Sporters with auto sears and M16A1 flash hiders installed, as you suspected?

As far as copyrights go...yes, it was inevitable. I know people have been talking about IMFDB and its images on quite a few gun forums, but I had no clue anybody would have the audacity to take your images and claim them as their own! How has your electronic tagging worked? Any particular software you used? The last time you and I discussed watermarking, I did a quick search for software that might be used. I found this: http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=10611 . But if you have a better one, that works, too. I do think you should start getting the images tagged ASAP, because I don't think people should be stealing your stuff. I still do worry somewhat about the "hypocrite" accusations, though, but as long as you keep getting new images up, especially for well-known guns (like ARs, H&Ks, AKs, Glocks, 1911s, etc.), those cries will have little validity.

Anyway, sorry to add to your growing list, but I have another request. I recently did a major re-vamp on the [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare series]] page, which used to be called just the "L96A1" page. All of the gun images I have on there now are jacked from Remtek's Accuracy International site, which I hated doing, but had no other choice. If you get a chance to photograph ''any'' of the AW rifles in your company's inventory, I'd be most grateful. I'm especially interested in the basic AW and the AWP (because my ''[[Jericho (TV series)|Jericho]]'' page has the latter), but anything else you have in stock would be great. Thanks so much for all your hard work. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

:The USP-45 looks great. As MT said, it will work well on the Collateral page (especially because I'm going to be adding shots to it later) and the FNC is excellent. Bravo. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Check IMDB for gun-heavy movies (you won't find specific IMDB forum topics in a Google search). It's very common now to see somebody ask a question about a gun in a movie and some other forum user will point them to us. Last one I recall looking at was "Hitman" where somebody mentioned us. I have also seen people make topics about us on everywhere from the AR-15.com to the 1911 forum to the Firing Line.

::As far as reactions go, sorta mixed. Some people draw attention to our mistakes (and let's face it - we had a LOT, especially before you came in), others say we're neat. However, there don't seem to be a whole lot of folks so far who understand the fact that our images are exclusive to us - which is another reason why your watermarking is such a good idea. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Hey MPM2008, I just wanted to say thanks for all your recent pictures, I really like the USP 45, and the Mossberg 590 Mariner. Thanks to you, Imfdb now has genuine pictues of all three calibers the USP is available in. Keep up the excellent work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:01, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I was trying not to do too many shots in Commando since I didn't want to muck up your page but I didn't know your limit was 4. I add so many shots usually because they illustrate different users and different scenes. I don't try to spoil the story but I try to run a path with my images. I was trying to respect your format more than how many screencaps (you'll see I kept the calibers after each description like you do and kept the size image under 600px. I'll admit that LMS had too many shots but don't hold that on me every time I go a little over on my screencapping. Hope you had a happy new year. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Finally Got It!==
The AKMS pistol looks great. Nice work. I just finished ''[[The Mist]]'' and ''[[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]]''. Now I'm gonna work on ''[[Van Helsing]]''. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re:Finally Got It! ==

That is one Sweet AK! Is that the actual gun used in the movie? Happy New Year By the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 07:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Finally Got It! ==

It looks awesome! Where did you find? Is it one of Cinema Weaponry's guns, as I suspected? Also, that gun appeared again this past summer in ''[[Pineapple Express]]'', so I added it to that page. But nice job. And Happy New Year! Thanks for the wonderful gifts you have given us! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

==Rambo==
I noticed you are adding some new shots to Rambo. Do you think you could grab some shots of his knife and bow, since all the othe Rambo pages have them. If you can't, I'll do it eventually. If you can, note that he has two knives. His mini machete that Stallone actually made for the movie and the knife from Rambo II. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==The Auto 9==

You had access to the Auto 9? Wow, I had no idea they had any of them intact after all these years. Of course, ''[[Sin City]]'' features one, but theirs was actually a modified 92FS, not a 93R. How did you get your hands on this thing? Whatever...nice job, and thanks for the awesome pic. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:57, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Finally Answering your questions ==

I understand now, thanks for the reply. So you can basically make it look like any kind of M16 if you have the right parts, anyway I can't wait to see your C7. Also, are you uploading more Mossbergs? Because if you want, I can edit the Mossberg 500 with the Heatshield out of the Comparision picture and upload it if want me to:

[[Image:MossbergComparisonMain.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

But if you prefer to upload your own image, it's okay.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

About the Mossbergs, So you do want me to edit it out? Anyway, A simple Mossberg 500 with a High Capacity magazine tube to replace this image would be nice:

[[Image:50577.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 - 12 gauge]]

Also, if you can get an image of a Mossberg 500 with a pistol grip like the one in [[Training Day]] it would be apprecited. Thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Mossberg 500 ==

Hey MPM2008, I cropped and edited the comparison image, and uploaded the Mossberg 500 with the heatshield as a seperate image. I just want to want to know if it's okay before I add it to the page. I wrote that it belongs to you in the image description. What do you think?

[[Image:Mossberg500withHeatShield.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Thanks, I tried to make it looked as much like one of yours as possible. I'll put on the page now. Feel free to edit or overwrite it whenever you like.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==The PT92C==

Thanks for this! I just put it on the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page. I'm guessing it might even be the same one seen in ''[[Gates of Hell (1995)|Gates of Hell]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: 24 Redemption==

Yep, I understand. I was just giving a reason to everyone why I was. I realize you wouldn't make that mistake. I think the page used to have the USPc simply because it appears on the DVD cover, before I screencapped it and generally gave it a huge overhaul. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for the new FALs!==

They look great! We can always use more. Only question is...do you by chance have a picture of a 50.61 like the gun from ''Heat''? (or rather, something that looks like one)

The new Mossberg Bullpup also looks good. While I liked the one with the extended magazine tube, I like this new one better, simply because the standard models without the extended tube seem to be the ones which appear in movies most often. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Excellent, that 50.61 is perfect. Thanks again! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

==Trapdoor Springfield==
Thanks for uploading pics of the Trapdoor Springfield rifles, they complete a few of my pages better. I added your pictures to those pages as well.

I've been working on ''[[The Dirty Dozen]]'', have you seen it? I have the guns down but I've only seen the movie twice and don't know all 12 guy's names. If you have, can you help me out with that? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== RE: Above ==
I am sorry in advance for the language I am about to use but this douche Gunmaster45 completely erased the "Dirty Dozen" page I had ALREADY created. Not a single piece of the page I had created still exists. Admin or not where does this asshole get off destroying a page I worked on???

==Help with ''Transformers'' 1911 pistol ID?==

Hey, I was wondering if you could take a look at the M1911 being used by Captain William Lennox ([[Josh Duhamel]]) in my screenshots of ''[[Transformers]]'' and see if you could ID it? It appears to be a mostly standard M1911 pistol but has a Kimber-style hammer and slight beavertail to the grip safety. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

: Just took another look at the M1911 page and it almost looks like the [[M1911 pistol series#Colt XSE|Colt XSE]], only the weapon in the film lacked the second set of cocking serrations at the front of the slide. What do you think? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:59, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re:KIN93==

Not really. He has been warned before this, so being a bit frustrated is understandable. And yes, I agree that being released in theaters does not justify using bootlegs, and will certainly still be noticed by any studio police on the prowl. After all, if a movie hasn't been released on DVD yet, there's no way to get screenshots other than bootlegging. And that's why it's unacceptable. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== About the images on the Predator 2 page ==

Could i replace them?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:28, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I've been trying to cut back on the amount but I have my specific way I make my pages. I don't just tell what guns are used. I tell you what guns are used, who uses them, goofs, and fun facts. It makes the page a little larger but I like to think of it as being thorough, more like an article then just a "page". Since we have pages for actors, guns, and films/TV, it is good to show you the info. Sometimes I just can't pass up good shots. If you notice on my Last Man Standing page, the shot is either good, or is telling information. I understand that some of my pages are cluttered, but I've been doing my best to keep them organized. My limit now is usually ten or less images, but I sometimes have to makd exceptions. You are free to remove screencaps I add if you find them to be to many on one of ''your'' pages. You are free to do whatever you want to your own pages, if I add something you find it not needed, you have the right to remove it. I took some of the Mini 14 shots off your ''[[Commando]]'' page for that reason. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I was looking at the [[Rambo (2008)]] page and saw some of the changes you made. As always, I was a little sad to see those images you removed go but it is your page and your right. While I understand the removal of the shot of the soldier sent airborne by the .50 caliber (I just thought it was worth noting how dumb "movie logic" can get, but it doesn't have a gun in it, so it is not needed), but why did you remove the shot of Diaz with his FN FAL Carbine? I thought it was a pretty clear shot.

I just added some shots to [[Flashpoint]] and soon I'm going to do [[Get Smart]] and a revamp on the Matrix series (the three films and that awful Animatrix) since I bought the four pack DVD - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for your comments about my pictures from [[The Sting]]; it's always been one of my favorite movies (despite its use of suppressed revolvers!) Feel free to make the screencaps any size you feel appropriate, I appreciate your comments and interest! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Screencap limit? ==

Hey, I was just looking at some of my own pages and seeing that I tend to really really overdo it with screencaps (which makes some pages take way too long to load). I was just wondering if you know what a good suggested amount might be for the same gun? Thanks - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That sounds like a very good amount for each. I'll try and go through some of my pages (especially ''[[Dillinger (1973)]]'' and ''[[Bonnie and Clyde]]'') and reduce some of the redundancy. I'll keep it in mind from now on. Thanks for getting back to me so soon! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Hi!==

Sorry I haven't been on IMFDB in a few days. To answer your question: It's not so much that life is kicking me in the ass, it's mostly that I'm in Washington, DC right now without my laptop. Even though I didn't vote for Obama, I came here for his inauguration, mostly because my Mom is a big fan, and because my boss got us the tickets, and well...you know, I do try to do nice things for Mom, even if I don't like the guy she helped elect President. Plus, I got several days off from work, which is always nice.

I should be back tomorrow, and I'll catch up on everything I've missed for the past few days. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request==

I really like how you edit those jacked pics and make them look so much better. So, I figured I'd ask...if you get time, do you want to edit this pic of a Gen 1 Glock 19 that we've been using on several pages?

[[Image:Wviewpoint 0430.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19 9mm]]

If you get around to it, cool, but I realize it might be a while. It could use some removal of white space and shadows, and any other touch-ups you can do. Thanks! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

:Ah, alright, well, that's fine then. Just figured I'd ask because I thought I remembered you telling Orca that you didn't have a Gen 1 Glock 19 in stock at the time, and I wasn't sure if that had changed recently. And yes, DC was a whole lotta fun...until I had to go to the party where all the people from my firm were celebrating the inauguration. Try being the only Libertarian in a room full of mindless liberal douchebags and it's quite awkward. I loved how they were all clapping and cheering even when Obama was saying things that weren't really all that profound or moving. I don't think it matters how good or bad Obama turns out to be as President...this Stalin-esque cult of personality around the man is something I will never get used to. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

::It looks WAY better. Only thing is, next time, please just upload a new version over the old one. Thanks for doing this. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

::By the way, is there really a difference between the T3 AKMS pistol and the ones from Rambo and Pineapple Express? I keep comparing photos and I still can't see the difference in barrel length. The only thing I see is that the Rambo one may or may not have a smooth receiver cover (like the standard Type 56) instead of the AKM-style ribbed. And the True Lies gun is a different one entirely. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

==Rambo (2008==

Just to give you a heads up I changed the info on Rambo M2 Brownings. I talked to Kevin @ ISS about them and he told me they were M2. He was with the show in Thailand working on the 50's. As for the designation AN/M2 was used by the military to discribe the Browning Aircraft gun both 50cal and 30cal unitl 1944 it was changed in September 44 to M2 Aircraft. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the new 870, It looks amazing. Even the color of the stock and pump match the gun in the movie, excellent work. So are you working on the ghost ring version right now or still looking for the accessories? Either way, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. Thanks again, and keep up the great work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

==M1-C Garand==
Beautiful M1-C, thanks for uploading it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Browning M2==
That is definately useable! It's great! I was going to ask that you replace the M2 pic but figured you had enough to do already. You might want to take a picture of it on a pintle mount though because that is the most commonly seen .50 in films. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I like your picture! If you can do the pintle mount, great, but right now, I'm just happy we have a picture of an M2 at all that we can call our own. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

== Browning M2 ==

Thanks for the M1 Garand info, that picture helped me alot, I now understand how the scope and gun work. As for the M2, That is definitely a usable picture, it's excellent! .50 cals are huge, and I would say that type of format is perfect for them. If you want my photo wishlist again, it is these besides the ghost ring 870:

Beretta 92FS Inox

Two Tone Beretta 92FS (If you're able to combine the parts)

Heckler & Koch Mark 23 ("SOCOM")

And if it's possible, can you obtain a U.S Military issue Beretta M9, I know it's very much the same as a Beretta 92FS, but I heard there were some slight differences, and it would go great with the M9A1 you uploaded before. But if you can't get ahold of it, it's okay. The 870 and the Beretta 92FS Inox are the main things I want. Thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind the M9 actually, MT2008 is right. We don't need it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Help on Alex Reid==

Looks like my Jedi Mind Powers are at work again. Creepy, eh?

Alex Reid uses several types of weapons in ''[[Ultimate Force]]''. She uses a SIG-Sauer P226 in at least a couple of episodes. In the episode where the SAS goes against the IRA, she uses an MP5KA1 to shoot at the terrorists during the ambush, and later briefly has a Glock 17 (the same one you see being pointed at her) before the bad guy takes it away. In the season 1 finale, she is given a PPK, but never gets to fire it herself. In another episode where the SAS goes after a Christian cult, she has an MP5SD3. In the season 2 finale where Red Troop goes to South Ossetia, she uses an FN Minimi. Here are some pics from the ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' page:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-77839.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Caroline Walsh ([[Alex Reid]]) unloads a SIG P226 at French special forces in Episode 2.1, "Communication".]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-136363.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Captain Caroline Walsh ([[Alex Reid]]) firing an FN Minimi in Episode 2.6, "Dead Is Forever".]]

Only problem is, these don't really show her face that clearly, so you can't tell who she is. I'll see about getting others... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I got one. Give me a sec to cap it. Season 1, and the episode was "Just a Target" [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, just remembering, in season 1, forgot which episode, she is seen with a full length double barrel shotgun, but never fires it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Here's the pic of her with her SIG

[[Image:UFCWalsh.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

== Wikipedia pirate? ==

Hi, I requested several images from you a while back, but there appears to be an editor on Wikipedia going by the name Josh Woolstenhulme who appears to be uploading some of your gun photos and claiming to be the author. Here are his uploads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Josh_Woolstenhulme

If this isn't you, just a heads up.

[[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 21:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

::Thanks. He IS stealing images. A quick pass and I noticed these.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/M1_Garand.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/M1903Mark1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/AKMRifle.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/SMLE.jpg

so how do I complain and get these down?

:I'm not a Wikipedia member at present (I usually post anonymously), but it seems this user is already setting himself up to get your images removed. Note on the AKM image, it now says this:

:''This image or media does not have information on its copyright status. Unless the copyright status is provided, the image will be deleted after Friday, 6 February 2009. Please remove this template if a copyright license tag has been added.''

:But you should keep working with Koalorka to make sure your stuff isn't being taken, because I'm afraid I dunno what to do besides leave requests on a moderator's talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::Yes, that was me that put up the warning tags. All violating images have now been removed and the pirate warned. Thanks again for the Ameli, you can find the article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CETME_Ameli here]. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 16:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==My requests==
I don't have much but here's a few I thought of:

* [[MG42]]

* [[MG34]]

* [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] with/without 33 round mag

* I mentioned before how I'd really like a [[Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"|Winchester 1866]] with the forearm and without it fro when they mimick Henry rifles in movies.

* Any western guns are great, I'm one of the few who can apprieciate them (since about 90% of the western pages are mine)

* We still need a [[Mossberg 500]] with wood furniture for pages like ''[[Heat]]''

* Some more [[Desert Eagle]]s. The images are all .50AEs, we need some .44s and .357 DEs. We also need a black model.

* [[RPG-7]] (still using that ugly picture taken off google)

* [[M60]] series machine guns

That's all I got for now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Was the extra holding that M60 an extra or someone well known? By the way, I could never do your job. The idea of so many idiots handling and breaking my guns would drive me to insanity. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Good Luck ==

I would like to wish you good luck on your most recent business trip, and I hope you have a good time or try to, and thanks for notifying us about it. Also, sorry to put more requests on your list, but can you look around for these as well?:

* Browning Automatic Rifle or B.A.R

* Mossberg 500 with High Capacity Magazine tube

* Mossberg 590 with Ghost ring sights (I think this is what the Remington 870 on the [[Hostage]] page really is, and I seen them in movies such as The Last Castle)

* M1 and M1A1 Thompson

Thanks, and I wish you the best of luck on your trip.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Have fun! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Revolvers==
I have a question. I know auto pistols need to be milled and threaded to fire blanks but do revolvers need to be modified to fire reliably? I once had some acorn crimped .45 LC blanks which I put through a SAA. The primers backed out from a lack of recoil and the gun locked up. I tried putting it though a Colt M1917 and it hardly fired unless I angled it right. I've seen in movies how some of the firing pins are removed from the hammers (like the S&W 36 from ''[[Running Scared]]''). If they do need to be modified, could you tell me how exactly? Thanks.

P.S. If we have any more things to add to your list, can we just add them directly or should w ask you first in discussion? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I also forgot to ask, what movie was the M60 used on? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Push==
Have you seen the trailers for the new movie ''[[Push]]'' coming out soon? I'd screencap the hi-def trailer but my computer is too slow to do it right. If you're free, could you give it a look? I'd rather you made a page with HD trailer shots than some anonymous user making an empty page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE: Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You are awesome! These guns are great! I'll be sure to add them to the page. I'm going to have to go back and snap a shot of Ace with an SAA (they didn't show him too clear but I think I can find one). I can't wait to see what else is coming. Thanks! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm glad to see you've gotten more famous guns, they look great. It's quite impressive how many guns you're uploading that are well known as used guns by the actors. Did you meet with some important people lately? Keep up the good work, the pics look great. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::All I can say is...Oh, my, God. You have outdone yourself this time. This is one of the best updates you've given us yet. I don't even know how to begin thanking you. I can't even express how giddy with excitement I am that we have these pictures. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Yep, I saw those too! Really awesome. More than awesome, actually. And the new Desert Eagles and the Mark 23 are also VERY highly appreciated, too. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Desert Eagle==
The Desert Eagles are great! We really needed a black model and you gave us all three! Thanks much. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==H&K Mk 23 SOCOM==
Outstanding work with the SOCOM pistols! How did you come across a REAL knight's arament suppressor? You've really outdone yourself this time! Keep up the good work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Photos==
Nice photos you got the other day from our friend. I did not mean to rub you the wrong way last week. We could work better together and put this behind us. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Babylon .A.D/ SPAS 15 ==

I don't think the gun under the M4 is a SPAS 15. The gun pictured has a full lengh forend and the reciver doesn't match. I have seached every where and can't figure out what the gun pictured is. But thanks for help. Gunner313

== Welcome back ==

Welcome back from your trip, hope you enjoyed it, and thanks for the new goodies. I put your newest Smith & Wesson handgun pictures on most of the pages except the ones that had no screencaps or if I couldn't tell which kind of model it was, and I also put the movies guns you got on the S.W.A.T., Untouchables, and Pulp Fiction pages. Best regards.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Thanks ==

Sorry about taking the honors away from you, those are amazing pictures though especially those guns from The Quick and The Dead. If you would like help replacing the pictures, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the new pictures, how many armorers did you meet with? Also the Berettas from Die Hard and Lethal Weapon are nice, so they took it out of the case for you? It looks well worn.
Also, about formatting, I noticed one or two users put at the bottom of sections a few times to space out their pages, I previewed it on pages a few times, it seems to work, but you have do it a few times in a row. Not sure how effective it is, but I figured it's worth noting.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 08:24, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Two requests==

Star Ultrastar, And a S&W 5906 w/ Adjustable sights
Nice job on the Beretta 92 section, by the way
~ Revolver

==Weapon Photos==
Nice photos you just posted. I hope you do well getting your next gig. This SAG BS will put a damper on things. I will have some non-industry related work coming into my shop so it should not hurt that bad. If you need anything PM me on the forum and I will see what I can do. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Re: Update ==

You have really outdone yourself this time, all these new images are amazing. It's cool that you had help from the armorer of True Romance, and that you got to photograph the Beretta from the Die Hard and Lethal weapon films, it makes me wonder why so many why so many actors and directors are so anti gun, especially when they worked around guns so much. Anyway, no one should mind if you replace their pictures, yours are superior to anything else on the site, and I have seen the XXX guns, and those are cool, thanks for finding out what the mystery M1911 on XXX 2 was. It's also cool that IMFDB now has it's own pictures of these unique guns. It was nice of those guys to help you, that was by far the most guns I have ever seen you upload. One thing is for certain, if people don't come here to see what guns were used in which movie, it'll most likely be to see your pictures.

No problem about the formatting, a user named [[User: Vinniebar|Vinniebar]] used it when this site first started, hopefully it'll be the answer to our formatting problems. Anyway you did good with those Berettas, they came out great with what you had there, do the they still work good? Anyway I have to get to bed now. You can keep uploading gun pictures if you want, but you can take a break if you want, you derserve one. Thanks again.

P.S, sorry if it took me long to respond, I'm not the fastest typer.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 09:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==The new stuff==

Your updates just keep getting more and more incredible. Having actual movie guns was cool enough, but having ''specific'' guns from movies handled by stars is just beyond cool. The new Berettas and the Tokarevs are especially appreciated. I just don't even know how to thank you anymore, and words just ain't gonna cut it.

BUT...I must ask you a really quick question. You say that this Beretta was used in ''[[Die Hard]]'':

[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92F 9mm used by Bruce Willis in the film with extended mag release and slide release.]]

Only thing is, this gun clearly doesn't have the extended mag release and slide release, which is visible in this screencap from our movie page:

[[Image:DH_McClane2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|McClane with his [[Beretta M92F|Beretta 92F]] drawn while taking cover from incoming fire from both Hans and Karl.]]

My question is, isn't THIS the gun that Bruce Willis used in the first ''[[Die Hard]]'':

[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9mm. This is the actual screen used Beretta carried and fired by [[Bruce Willis]] in the film.]]

...because this one actually DOES have an extended slide release and mag release. Also, LMO has a picture of this gun on their page for ''[[Die Hard]]'' (which isn't as good as yours) and it looks identical to this.

Furthermore, I doubt this gun (the one right above) was in ''[[Die Hard 2]]'' or ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'' because I don't think either of the Berettas in that movie had the extended slide release. On the ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]'', I posted a picture of one of the Berettas which I took from LMO's site.

Anyway, point is, are you sure you didn't reverse the images? Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:20, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:Also, I could have sworn the Beretta Gibson used in the first ''Lethal Weapon'' had a gold Beretta logo on the grips. Did they replace it with the blacked-out one later on? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::Oh, crap...you know, I barely even grasped the scale of what you uploaded because you did so many. The Auto Ord 1911 from "Pulp Fiction", the S&W 629 and the 1911 from "XXX 2", the P7 from "True Romance"...excuse me while I go pee myself with excitement. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::And not only do we have a Jericho 941 that's stainless, but it's the '''same''' gun used in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''? (faints) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==The Berettas==

First of all, Cinema Weaponry has a display case for some of their famous movie guns? That's really awesome...do you other pictures of it? What else is in it?

Anyway, like I said, I'm pretty sure you just reversed the two Beretta images. THIS one is from ''[[Die Hard]]'':

[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9mm. This is the actual screen used Beretta carried and fired by [[Bruce Willis]] in the film.]]

Again, if you look at the picture of Willis with the 92F from "Die Hard", it looks identical. Also, wasn't there more than one of them? I've always understood that you guys are in the habit of having at least one or two back-up weapons for each "hero gun" use? Did Mike Papac configure multiple Berettas in the same way as the one used by Bruce Willis in the first "Die Hard"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:OK, I'm looking at your picture of the display case. If you want my opinion, it looks like the 92F in the center of the picture (next to the "Enemy of the State" 1911) actually was used in "Die Hard 2" and "Demolition Man". You can see that it hasn't been modified for Bruce Willis (no left-hand mag release, probably because Sylvester Stallone used it later, and he's no lefty). However, the next Beretta over is definitely the one from the first "Die Hard" - it '''does''' have the left-handed, extended mag release. However, you probably just can't see the label for the gun because it's out of the picture.

:Do you think that might explain things? We should ask Steve about this, as I'm sure he knows well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::But I forget...didn't Syd Stembridge basically take all of his remaining assets to Cinema Weaponry? I've been under the impression that Stembridge and CW essentially merged with each other after Stembridge closed down in '99. So aren't the guns that Syd kept now in Mike's hands?

::And yes, I imagine Mike must have a lot of cool stuff to photograph. One other thing you should ask about...remember the H&K G11 from ''[[Demolition Man]]''? If you can at least get the story on where that gun came from, that would be awesome. I've always wondered...did they build it themselves?

::''ALOT of them in films are still those HK94 conversions, but now we can't tell visually if they are or not.''

::True, but that just means they're identical to almost every single other transferable MP5 within the chain of commerce, which were also converted from HK94s. I forgot...was it La France that did most of the conversions of HK94s for Stembridge, Ellis, etc.? Anyway, it's good that you got the picture of the one that you have. Those things may be obvious conversions, but they're still an important part of movie gun history! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:::I figured Syd was still in business even though he doesn't seem to get many armorer credits these days - if you watch ''[[A Man Apart]]'', for instance, it says, "Weapons provided by Stembridge & Cinema Weaponry" in the credits. But I've been confused about what weapons he retained, what LMO sold, what CW received or what came under their umbrella, etc. Thanks for clearing that up.

:::So as far as the G11 goes, are you saying that the one in ''[[Demolition Man]]'' was actually a real G11 and not something that was built specially for the film? I figured it was built around something else, sort of like the way that "XXX 2" features G36Ks mocked up to look like XM8s (and I think Steve may have had a hand in that film as well). As far as getting a picture, don't worry, I won't pressure you. I realize how hard it must be. I was just curious to know if the gun in the movie was the real deal or not, because I couldn't imagine HK would ever trust some moronic actor with one of their rare prototype weapons (no offense to Wesley Snipes). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==Confusion + Overseas visit==

I think I'm about to make you a whole lot more confused...

''Mike recalls that he didn't install the extended mag release button and slide release until the second movie''

If that's what Mike recalls, then it doesn't seem to match the evidence. Here is a screencap from the '''first''' ''[[Die Hard]]'' showing the Beretta:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-62528.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

So again, this is the ''first'' movie that this image came from. If you look closely, you can see that McClane's (Willis') Beretta '''does''' have the extended slide release. Again, compare to the picture you took:

[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|]]

So Mike's memory must be failing him on this, with all due respect. It looks like he ''did'' put on the extended slide release (and mag release) for the first movie. I don't know about the Lethal Weapon movies (I don't have those on DVD), but the 92F from Die Hard 1 is a gun that has an extended slide release.

Also, did Mike do any work on ''[[Die Hard With a Vengeance]]''? I've always been under the impression that because that movie was filmed in New York, Weapons Specialists, Inc. provided the guns for that film. Rick Washburn is credited on IMDB as the armorer on ''[[Die Hard With a Vengeance]]'' (though it looks like Dave Fencl also did some work on the film). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

''I MAY have an opportunity to go overseas (France) and I will try to photograph some of Christophe Maratier's guns (Leon/Ronin/LaFemme Nikita/District B13/Taken/etc) I would like to also go picture taking in Britain at Bapty's or Sascha Robey's collection, but who knows? I don't have a connection/introduction yet with those guys. And with all the retarded gun restrictions going on over there...... ''

That is pretty wild! Unfortunately, Bapty auctioned off a whole bunch of the James Bond movie guns (including several of the original Walthers, plus the OICW replica from ''[[Die Another Day]]''), back in 2006, before the recent ban on "realistic imitation replicas" took place (they were all deactivated prior to the auction). Still, it would be really cool to see some of the stuff they still have. You would probably be able to get them to let you in, though. Dan Shea went to Bapty's back in 2003 (I think) and they let him photograph a lot of their guns (which appear on LMO's site), so if you told them who you were, you could probably get in. Have fun! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

::''Yeah, but WHO is the better photographer? ;)''

::Well, obviously...hehe. :-) The coolest thing is how you got a lot of the same guns as his site, but yours are 100x the quality. Speaking of which, have you ever considered professional gun photography for a living? Or do you already do it? Your pictures are the kind of thing that gun rags and books would kill for.

::''I was thinking of doing an actual table top book with the pics (including a bunch of other angles that I did not upload)''

::What about a book showing off specific "hero guns" from movies? Have any of you (the armorers) talked about that in the past? Of course, I guess the great thing about IMFDB is that you guys are free to use it for precisely this purpose, except that anyone can access it for free.

::''Either that or I'll say "MT2008 says you're full of SHIT!" heheheh. Those were done 23 years ago and we're all doing this from recollection.''

::Ugh, I dunno if I could stomach the idea of correcting Mike on his own work, being as I'm not an armorer. But I do realize that it's unreasonable to expect him to know all this stuff from memory. I have trouble remembering details about specific guns I shot as recently as 5 years ago. 23 years is a ''long'' time to keep details in your head, for any human being.

::As far as the (nearly) blank pages go...screw 'em. I've deleted several already. Also, one user made a page for ''[[The War Briefing]]''. I'm not sure it fits with the scope of the site. What do you think? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

==re:Asshat==

It's just some dude who's upset because I gave him a temporary suspension for fucking up the ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]'' page with inaccurate info when he didn't even have the courtesy to ''ask'' before editing. Maybe I over-reacted a ''little'', being that I did most of the screencapping and other work on that page, but the sheer audacity of his rudeness just pissed me off so much that I figured he deserved a time-out.

Don't worry, I wasn't fooled for even a second when I saw the "Warning" on my talk page (you can see my responses to him [[User talk:68.233.138|here]]). And yes, I ''could'' actually report '''him''' for impersonating an FBI agent and they might complain. But, this loser is too pathetic to even bother. Besides, I have the flu right now, so I don't feel like it anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arachnid==

OK, it's really interesting you made a page for this movie...I watched it on Sci-Fi not too long ago, but couldn't remember the title! And even though I'm an ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' fan, I completely failed to recognize [[Alex Reid]] in the movie. Weird...

As far as the guns in the movie, I may be wrong, but I remember the AR-15 carbine (the long-barreled one) being a Colt Sporter-1. Or at least, I think the upper was from a Sporter-1, because that looks to me like a 16" barrel. I can't remember - was the gun ever fired on auto? I remember the Model 733 was, but I remember the other AR only being fired on semi. In which case, I suspect it's most likely a factory civilian Sporter-1.

Also, I think Chris Potter's MAC (the one which magically becomes an Uzi) is an RPB clone or something else that's smaller. Unless Chris Potter is a huge guy with huge hands (and he doesn't seem that way in any of the other stuff I've seen him in where he handles guns), the receiver on the MAC looks a bit too small for it to be an original MAC-10. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

:No worries! I would have been really upset myself. My first week here, I remember editing a page while another user made a minor edit simultaneously, and I was really pissed off too because I lost all my edits which I hadn't backed up, which was nearly an hour of work down the drain. Nowadays, I'm in the habit of copying anything I write into a Word file before submitting in case that happens.

:Anyway, back to the movie...I'm not sure if Chris Potter has such huge hands or not. Not too long ago, I was watching episodes of ''[[Kung Fu: The Legend Continues]]'' on YouTube, which he starred in. His sidearm in that show was a Beretta 92FS Inox (which had a habit of turning into a Taurus PT92 in some scenes), and it didn't seem any bigger in his hands than mine, and I don't have big hands (just long fingers). I haven't compared a MAC-10 to an Uzi in size, so I dunno what the difference is.

:Oh, yeah, and I love how he fires his MAC/Uzi sideways, "gangsta style". He used to do that with his Beretta in "Kung Fu" as well! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Browning A5==
Do you by any chance have any [[Browning A5]] shotguns in your armory, as well as a Remington Model 11 copy, since I've noticed a few pages featuring them (like [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]'s [[Thunderball]] page).

And you never got back to me on my qeustion about blank converting revolvers. It's a little further up your discussion page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==The Rundown==
I've had [[The Rundown]] screencapped for some time now (hadn't had time to upload) but would you mind if I replaced some of your shots with mine (they are larger resolution), but if you don't want me to, I could always delete my caps, but it took me a while to save them. I've had it on my list for some time now, it would really make me happy if I could upload mine. Get back to me on this. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I realized this, so I only replaced one shot of the Remington 870 because it shows just a little bit more. You're shots are still on the page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Thanks, I felt (I guess the word is self-conceous) since I knew I was uploading more screencaps than you would have, but as you see, I add comments on the crazy movie logic and other fun facts to fill out stuff (I always have a plan when I save screencaps, so I know when I plan to label these facts early, hence I sometimes have a heavy screencap load). I try to always catch EVERY gun in a movie, so I never use scene skip and rarely fast forward. When I do fast forward, I have a strange sixth sense that allows me to see guns that are only seen briefly on even normal speed. Anyway, I'll be uploading a movie called [[Legends of the Fall]] tommorow, I'm working on it now. I think it is a perfect gun movie because it covers the early 1900s, so we see old west guns, WWI guns, and prohibition gangster guns. It's great. Incredible film too, I recommend it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Revolvers again==
Copied from above:

I have a question. I know auto pistols need to be milled and threaded to fire blanks but do revolvers need to be modified to fire reliably? I once had some acorn crimped .45 LC blanks which I put through a SAA. The primers backed out from a lack of recoil and the gun locked up. I tried putting it though a Colt M1917 and it hardly fired unless I angled it right. I've seen in movies how some of the firing pins are removed from the hammers (like the S&W 36 from [[Running Scared]]). If they do need to be modified, could you tell me how exactly? Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Thanks for clearing up the SKS, that was the only model I was aware of (not an SKS pro, only know what I've seen or held at shows) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I guess I just had crappy blanks. I can't remember the brand but they were written in french or italian or something. They were acorn blanks, not those longer movie blanks. Plenty loud though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Shoot 'Em Up==
I usually use my desktop computer for screencapping and it keeps the master images at a relatively simple size so I don't need to resize them. But I screencapped [[Shoot 'Em Up]] on my sister's HP Pavilian DV-6000 laptop because my screencapper on the desktop didn't except SEU's format. Her computer is HIGH-DEF and the images were gigantic, even after I resized them. I thought they were small enough after resizing but they were still pretty big. They certainly look nice though. You can tell based on the number of screencaps that I wasn't up to re-resizing all the images because they were a tad over sized. Next time I use her laptop to screencap (get ready for a much better documentation of the Matrix films), I'll be sure to resize them correctly. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Smith and Wesson 1006 ==

Hey, MPM, could you get me a pic of a Smith and Wesson 1006? That'd be awesome, thanks.
from ProtoAuthor.

Also, from me again, how about making an UziMac10, like in Dogs of War?
::Those guns don't exist any more. Once regular Uzis became more prevalent (including the influx of semi automatic Uzi Model A and Model B carbines that were then converted into full auto guns in the 1980s) the MAC 10s were converted back to MAC-10s. And good riddance in my book. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Dang. Well, how about the 1006?

== M1911 Question ==

I was wondering, would it be possible to take the hammer and grip safety from a [[M1911 pistol series#Colt XSE|Colt XSE]] and put them on a standard M1911A1? I was thinking this might be what was done to create [[Josh Duhamel]]'s 1911 in ''[[Transformers]]''. Any input you have on this would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:15, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

== More Requests ==

I have a couple more requests

* The Custom Mossberg 590 from ''[[Rambo (2008)]]'' and ''[[Transformers]]''

* Beretta 92FS fitted with Silencier

* M40 and M40A3 Sniper Rifles

* Barrett M82A1

Thanks

From 76..219.156.200

== Badlands image sizes ==

Hey, a user converted all the 500px images I used on ''[[Badlands]]'' to 300px, but I was wondering if that was too small? I would change it back to my original 500px (or at least 400px) but I don't want to rub anyone the wrong way by undoing what was done (if they had good reason). Also, good call on the 03A3 rifle used, I had completely misidentified it! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks for clearing that up, I appreciate it. I didn't want to cause any trouble but since you'd seen the page for sure I figured you'd know best how to handle it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer==

Hi MPM. The Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer is a completely different weapon compared to the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless. The Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer is a shorter version of the Colt 1902 Military and is chambered in 38 ACP. You don't see them that much any more since the 1911 came out. We did send one out on Public Enemies but do not know if Harry used it. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: No problem but someone at Colt was not think when they named their models. I can see the salesman trying to explain it and the customer rolling their eyes and saying what are you talking about. They had some neat weapons in those early movies. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Ever used one of these?==
While I was screencapping [[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]] (I'll be uploading it very soon), I saw in the special features that they use this special gun that fires balls of dust or spark so you don't have to set up squibs anywhere to imitate bullet impact. It looked pretty cool and I was wondering if you were familiar with these. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Some shots:
[[Image:SquibGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SquibGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SquibGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:''Mythbusters had something remotely similar on an episode a while back. I say remotely, because while they created the same mini-bombs (for lack of a better term), they hand-launched them at their door instead of shooting them.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 07:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

==Watermarked Image==
Since people have been using your images without permission, I made one of your pics with a water mark. What do you think? If you like, I'll be more than happy to add it to all your images so no one steals them.
[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70watermarked.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt MK IV Series 70 with IMFDB watermark.]]
All I did was Hardlight the logo to remove the back color and faded it so it was just the logo alone. It's really easy. Get back to me. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:For now do you mind if I just warn of spoilers at the top of the page? Later I'll decide what I can get rid of (if I do). If that guy on the Rambo page is a jerk, by all means remove his images, I personally don't know him so I couldn't have known that.

Don't forget to tell me what you think of the watermark. If it is too big, I can make it smaller. Whatever you want. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up ==

Thanks for the heads up, and good luck with the shoot. It sounds cool that you're going to photograph more great guns, I can't wait to see the McMillan TAC-50 and M249 , and anything else you have, you never dissapoint. If you get more western guns, that will be great, those guns look amazing and GM45 will be thrilled. It's cool that Imfdb will have pictures that no one else has or will have. Anyway, good luck with your shoot, don't work too hard. Also, can you try to get more cool Beretta handguns like the ones you uploaded last time? sorry if I'm bugging you with Berettas alot, I'm just really anxious to see you upload a Beretta 92FS Inox, it's one of the pictures I want most, that's all. Once again, good luck. Also did you tell any other armorers about Imfdb?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, sorry I didn't respond earlier, but I have a '''burning''' request and I'm hoping you get this message before you go to CW again.

:You know those weird AKMSU clones (in 7.62x39mm) that have AKS-74U-style folding stocks? They've appeared in a zillion movies, and I know they must be the same guns being reused a lot. I think they're just full-size AK variants (Type 56s or Maadis, maybe) that have been converted with Krinkov parts kits. I have no idea whose inventory they're in, but I've seen them in a lot of movies that Mike Papac and other CW armorers worked on, which leads me to guess that CW must have at least a couple of them in inventory (unless they sub-rented from a different armory).

:Here is what I'm talking about:

[[Image:XxXAKMSU.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''[[XXX]]'']]

[[Image:BB2AKS-74U.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''[[Bad Boys II]]'']]

[[Image:A_MAN_APART-19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''[[A Man Apart]]'']]

[[Image:TtAKMSU-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''[[Tropic Thunder]]'']]

They've also appeared in movies like ''[[Three Kings]]'', ''[[Crank]]'', ''[[The Kingdom]]'', etc. If you were to take a picture of one of these guns, I think it would probably become our standard AKMSU photo, because probably 90% of the AKMSU-type guns I've seen in movies seem to be these same guns. If you can get one on short notice, great. If not, no worries. But have fun! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

==Titles starting with "the"==
Personally I've always hated the format of putting "The" at the end, despite it being considered "prop format" and personally I like the titles the way they are. If it is absolutely necessary to make this change, go ahead, but I don't like it. I think titles look fine the way the are "MoviePropMaster2008, User:".

And for the people who make fun of us in chatrooms, FUCK EM! People make diggs at us all the time, but the ten or so admins. on the site work hard and productive and are constantly combating 1000s of anonymous users daily, which is more than most can say. We do what we do right and anyone who mocks our work is a dumbass. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Getting tired of pictures? Every time you upload more guns, I feel like I'm getting presents, because I love seeing awesome new pictures of guns, especially movie guns. I almost peed myself with excitement when you uploaded all those screen-used weapons (like the P220 from "Live Free or Die Hard") on your last update.

:The titles thing may be able to be fixed as well, without actually doing any redirects. There may be a way to sort titles so that the word "The" is ignored. I know that on my iPod, bands that have the word "The" before them are grouped by the next word in their names on my "Artists" list. It can't be that hard to find a command which sorts them differently. I'll see if I can find it.

:And I share GM's sentiments on the people's who talk shit about us. They're just lames. Who cares what they think? If they were better than us, they'd actually make their own sites that are as thorough and informative as ours. Besides, I think IMFDB has already been influential in a lot of ways. I already see people on other gun boards distinguish now between a basic "AK-47" and a Norinco Type 56 look-a-like, which seems to be a trend we helped start, now that we've told people what to look for. For every negative comment I read about IMFDB, I see 10x as many people who love our site. Besides, how else do you explain the ridiculous number of views we've had in the last year? (nearly 3x as many in 2008 as 2007, the first year of operations) The numbers don't lie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

::Nah, dude, I don't disagree with you that it's annoying, what I'm saying is that there may be a way to fix it besides doing re-directs (which is going to take ages if you want to do it). You may be able to fix the page code so that the listing ignores the word "The" if it comes at the beginning of a title. That way, a movie like "The Dark Knight" would be grouped under "D" even if it was listed as "The Dark Knight" instead of "Dark Knight, The". -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==re: AK issues==

No, I don't hate you...actually, I've had the same thought myself for a while. The AK-47 page is getting too long and now includes variants it wasn't really meant to include. However, my idea for the solution is a bit different - that is, I'm not so sure we need to give the guns their own pages based on country of origin.

Broadly speaking, I think the AK-47 page should be limited to AK variants that are 7.62x39mm. You and I both know that the 7.62x39mm AKs which appear in movies and TV shows are the same types that used to be imported to the U.S. in the 1980s as civilian sporters. What that means is that the list is actually pretty limited - you've got the Egyptian Maadis, the Chinese Type 56s, the Hungarian SA-85Ms, and the Yugo M70s, and that's pretty much it. Of course, we've also seen the Romanian AIMS in a couple of movies (like "44 Minutes"), so maybe that one, too. So we can still classify the 7.62x39mm AKs by country, but on the SAME page instead of separate pages. You've told me yourself that armorers mostly stick to the old 1980s-vintage AKs and don't ever buy any of the newer guns (like the crappy Romaks and the Century Arms POSs), so doesn't that make our job pretty simple? We don't necessarily have to look for the more obscure derivatives that will only (at best) show up in movies filmed in countries where those guns were manufactured.

Besides grouping the 7.62x39mm AKs by their country of origin, I propose we also do the following:

*-'''Put the Norinco Type 84 on the [[AK-74]] page instead''': The logic being, the Type 84 often stands in for the AK-74 in American and Canadian movies/TV shows ("Stargate: SG1" being a good example), so why not put it on a page with the gun it's meant to imitate?
*-'''Move ALL AK-100 variants to their own page''' Even though they're basically modest updates of the classic AK-47 design, they're still different enough by name that I think they need their own page.
*-'''Keep any AK derivatives that are significantly different on their pages''' What this means is that something like the AEK-971 should not be on the AK-47 page. And likewise, the Galil and Valmet (which already have their own pages) need to be kept there.
*-'''Refuse to allow any foreign-made derivatives that don't appear in at least a few movies'''

How do you think that sounds? Maybe my defensive reflex is a bit strong on this, but I do really want to keep weapons that are basically identifiable as AK-47s and AKMs on one page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Question:
Hey, MPM, how do movie effects people do RPG fire? Is it all CG, do they launch a dummy tip and edit it out, or what?

== Re: Titles ==

I knew somebody would start changing the titles like that eventually, a few users complained about it, and a website even noted to look for titles beginning with '''The''' in the '''T''' section. The redirects you did worked out great, I think the movies with '''The''' in their titles will be easier to find that way, good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, that makes things much easier! Should we also do the same with titles beginning with "A" or "An"? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
I just finished [[The Boondock Saints]] and am in a pause between movies, were you planning to do this one or can I (I noticed you added shots)? It's been at the bottom of my pile for a while and it wouldn't hurt to start digging from the bottom now. If you have stuff saved, you can of course do it, but if not let me know if I can. Thanks. Great gun pics you've uploaded, we've needed a G36 for a while and the StG 44 is excellent. Superb work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I did the Matrix on my sister's laptop, which puts out some really big pics. I sent them to my desktop and uploaded them on the site but didn't have time to resize them. They look fuzzy? I thought they looked great. I'll be doing the other Matrix movies on the laptop too, but I'll try to resize those shots first. I'm super pissed right now because I screencapped Mr. & Mrs. Smith and 50 of the screencaps didn't save. So now I have to go back and grab the shots, many of which are from gun heavy scenes. So I had planned to upload the caps by tommorow but my crappy as computer has other plans. BTW, I only use my sister's laptop when the DVD doesn't have the right format and won't play on my screencapper (a rarity, but it happens), so I don't use it too often. It's her computer so I obviously can't bogart it for my own means alone. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Your images look a lot better, but didn't you buy this special machine that screencaps VHS and DVDs? I'd assume that would put out better images than any simple DVD player like mine. If I had put more time into it, I could have brightened the pictures to look better (I do that more commonly when adding caps to one of your pages, because my caps look like crap next to yours if I don't edit them). Compared to my regular desktop images, you can see why I would find the laptop ones more appealing. You'll see when I upload Mr. & Mrs. Smith that I brightened the pics. My personal favorite screencap from the Matrix is the Desert Eagle cycling blanks, it just looks cool. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::BTW, how come your images are so small? Usually when I upload images, they are just a little bigger than the sample picture with a full resolution preview. Yours have no higher resolution. Do you resize them to this point to save space or does your screencapper just produce small pics? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Admins==
I had figured he had had quite a probabtion period, but the one with power makes the decisions, not me. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== re: Congratulations! ==

Thanks! It's an honor to be a part of such a talented group. And I certainly understand, no need taking a risk when it's not necessary! While we're on the subject of controlling some of the stuff anonymous users add, I recall seeing a section about spoilers on the forums. I noticed today that someone had changed some of the words on my page for ''[[Godfather Part III, The]]'' to include some spoilers about the action happening (such as main characters getting killed, etc.) I realize this user was probably trying to help others specifically note when the gun was used, but that's what the screencaps are for. Would it be rude to rollback some of this user's suggestions to the previous format (which was more vague about deaths and killings in the film) or were they correct in adding this information? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: Spoilers ==

Absolutely, that helped a ton! There are also a few in the ''[[Scarface]]'' page which, in my opinion, needs some revamping (especially since its one of our most popular pages). I'm thinking of capping it sometime soon when I have about four hours to spare, so hopefully it'll look very cleaned up relatively soon. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Mr. & Mrs. Smith pistols==
I had them IDed as a Browning Buckmark Camper with a suppressor and a Ruger Mk III with a suppressor. Your caps are a tad clearer than mine, and now I'm even more sure I was right. (I'll likely use your caps instead of mine since they show the guns better)

As for the big room full of pistols, that is awesome. I can just image that when you open the door, blinding light shines through and a choir sings. I could spends hours upon hours in there.

BTW, the Beretta 93R pic looks great.

I'm almost done working on M&MS, it's a big movie and has been taking me a long time to finish. I've also brightened my caps so they look nice. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Gun Room Pic ==

Just saw the pic you posted of the Stembridge handgun room, and to quote [[James Earl Jones]] in ''[[The Hunt for Red October]]'': '''"Mother of god..."''' [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, I love when you post the pictures of vaults/armories and such. Thanks for sharing those with us. Also, the new gun pics lately (the G36, Sturmgewehr, Beretta 93R, etc.) are much appreciated! Sorry I haven't been around as much lately; I have kind of a lot going on right now. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== RE: You might get a kick out of this ==

Wow, all I can say is Handgun Heaven! That collection truly is amazing, it has everything from Flintlocks to Semi-Automatics, I enjoy it when you take pictures of vaults and museum cases, they're really cool. Btw, the G36 rifles, the Beretta 93R, and the other photos you uploaded this past week are amazing, thank you for uploading.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Who supplied armorers [[CornerShot|CornerShot's]] ==

I been to every gun selling site and read every youtube video and could not ever find a
[[CornerShot|CornerShot]] on auction. Probably because CNN said this weapon system will onfortunately not be sold to civilians. Were these weapons systems real or replicas if they were real how could armorer's get them when they originated from IRAQ?[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1993]] 22:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== gun room picture ==

They have an incredibly impressive collection there! That seems like one of those places that once you enter, you'd never want to leave! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==SP89 used in ''The Rock''==
Hi, I would like to know more about the H&K SP89 used in The Rock (1996).

Was it actually, based on a H&K SP-89? or just a H&K MP5k plus a SP89 type front grip?

Also,i would like to know What's the trigger set of it? 0-1? S-E-F? or with Navy type?

Would you mind to post a photo of it?

Thx a lot~

[[User:Friendsever|Friendsever]]

==Proper Quote==
That was my bad, I could have sworn he said "Kids." Thanks for clearing that up and going through the effort of screencapping it with subtitles. I'm working on the Glocks now, then I won't have much more to add. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Reply==
I'd probably stick my hand in the cubby with the MP5K-PDWs or the one with the sawed off/pistol grip shotguns below it to the left.

As for the "Colt 25", it is indeed a Colt 1908 Pocket chambered in .25 ACP, but most newcomers (and the person who made the page) know the cheap airsoft gun's name, which is the "Colt 25". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I was reading the Dawn of the Dead page, and I agree that the M16 they used looks more real than an Armscor. I own an Armscor M1600, it hits almost dead-on at 80yards but the pistol grip cracked so I don't use it much anymore. It hardly looks like an M16 at all. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::How do I get my own room like that? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Imagine if you will....... ==

Wow, how big is Cinema Armory? I would look in the one that the green Beretta looking handgun in it. What is that green handgun anyway? That is a very cool picture btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

==Sigma SW9F==

Thanks so much for that one! It's cool that we now have a standard black Sigma as well as the grey one. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==
I don't know. I had originally changed the Mustang because it had its own page and added it to the 1911. Basically it is still a Compact 1911 variant in .380 ACP (even refered to as Colt Government Model .380 by some and derived from such), but then again they make the Imbel M973 in 9mm and the Imbel MD1 in .38 Super Auto and both of them are fit for the 1911 page and based on the 1911 model. So my vote is no. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re: Chamelot Delvigne Model 1873==
The Chamelot Delvigne Model 1873 was issued in the white only they were never blued by the French. Strange to us that someone would issue a bare metal weapon any finishing or caliber mods were done by gunsmith here in the states. We had ten of them at Ellis and they were beautiful in the white. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Re: Die Hard 2 "MP5s"==

I don't think we can call the MP5A3s in ''[[Die Hard 2]]'' "fake" MP5A3s because if you look closely, they don't seem to be partial conversions. On Stewart's MP5, you can see that it has a barrel with three attachment lugs, and the lower receiver has a pushpin (for swapping out different types) and a flipper magazine release. The partially-converted HK94s wouldn't have any of that stuff.

The MP5 handled by McClane (the one with the scope) may or may not be an HK94 partial conversion; I will have to check my DVD to be sure. But for now, I'm just going to call them MP5A3s because unless the gun is a partial HK94 conversion, we shouldn't call it a "fake" MP5 (even though we both know that 99% of transferable MP5s in the U.S. were actually converted from HK94s). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

:Oh, I don't disagree with you that we should separate the HK94s from the MP5 if they are '''partial''' conversions. I've been trying to do that more and more often myself (see my ''[[Air Force One]]'' page, for instance). But the only thing I'm saying is, '''the Die Hard 2 MP5s are ''not'' partial conversions.''' Therefore, we can't really call them "fake". I think your eye just slipped. The ones in the movie are the full conversions which are visually indistinguishable from standard MP5A3s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

::Just checked my DVD. The scoped MP5A3 used by McClane is also a full conversion (it has an SEF lower and barrel lugs, which are visible when he pulls it out of the snow, takes out the mag, and realizes it's loaded with blanks). But it's all good, since we're on the same page now, as you said. ;)

::I do appreciate the new pics! The AKMS and SL8 are quite nice, but the main one I was happy about was the S&W Sigma SW9F you gave me for my ''[[American Dragons]]'' page. Even though the Sigma doesn't appear in too many movies, it's really great we have one those now! Thanks again for all your hard work! As far as new users making too many gun pages...screw 'em. I mentioned my stance on this in that topic on the forum. Check it out.

::Oh, yeah, and did you see that we were able to use your Daewoo DP51/K5 picture on the page for the game ''[[Combat Arms]]''? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Smith & Wesson Model 60 Hammerless ==

I was wondering, did you ever upload a picture of a [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]] with a shaved hammer? I could have sworn we had a pic of such a gun here but when I went looking for it for the ''[[CSI: NY]]'' page I couldn't find one. Any help you could provide on this would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Beast of War'' Screenshots ==

I love the new screenshots, way better than the crappy Youtube stills I had up. Thanks a lot for screencapping this page for me. One note though; the tank used in the film is actually a Ti-67; a T55 that was modified by the Israeli's , most notably having the main gun upgraded from the original 100mm D-10T to a western-built 105mm L7 gun (the same kind used in the American M60 Patton and the earliest version of the M1 Abrams). Thanks again for the new screencaps, looking forward to seeing the rest of them. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks so much ==

Thank you so much for the 870, it looks amazing! I'm wondering the same thing, maybe he wanted to mock the 870 up to look like a Mossberg 590 with Ghost ring sights. But we got to admit, it sure does look badass, thanks again for the shotgun. if you need anything, just ask.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:49, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Thanks for the Beast updates ==

I saw this film several times on TV a few years back, but I haven't been able to catch more than Youtube clips (where the previous low-res screenshots came from) lately. Some of the info came from those clips, while the rest came from memory and research on IMDB and Wikipedia. As for the screenshot captions, I don't mind at all, makes my job easier. I remember the film also has a firearm-related Rudyard Kipling quote at the beginning. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Dawn of the Dead Shotgun ==

If anyone deserves thanks it's you, but you're welcome. Also, since we're talking about shotguns, do you think you could get an old wood stock set on a Mossberg 590 for the Dead Presidents page? ~[[User:yournamehere|Yournamhere]] (I forgot my name, silly me.)

== Re: Dawn of the Dead Shotgun ==

Thanks again, it looks even more menacing now, a true zombie killer. One question, did you have to do something specific to the shotgun to get the sights on? such as drilling holes?. Anyway, thanks again for the shotgun, it was well worth the wait.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Omega Man pictures ==

Hey great work on the OM page. I don't have the ability to capture stills from a DVD with my PC (I don't think I do) so way to go. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Yep I'm a fan of Omega Man. ==

I'm forty-one and I remember going to a drive in with my parents back in the summer of 73 and watching Omega Man. It was the second feature, but dad says that I stayed awake for the entire movie. Pretty impressive for a five year old.

I own a copy of I Am Legend, but I prefer OM. Own both actually.

The only guns I own from the movie are a 1911A1 and a 1903A3.Whoops sorry I do own an M-1 carbine as well. I own several S&W revolvers , but unfortunately they never make an appearance in the movie. And I belong to a couple Omega Man websites. For those who like the movie.

I don't own any selective fire weapons. Out of my price range right now.

My wife hates it. Oh well. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: Orphaned Image==
It belonged to the ''[[Quigley Down Under]]'' page, but I had replaced all the images later on since QDU was my first page I screencapped and had all widescreen shots. I didn't know that if you saved over an image, it eventually stopped getting stretched, and I wasn't an Admin. yet so I couldn't delete them myself. I deleted that image and any other from that movie that pop up in random images. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Mauser Rifle Series==
I was wondering since you added the Mauser 98 to the page if you think the Gew 98 should be on the same page instead of a separate page? I was thinking that it should be for everything else except the popular Gew98 ans K98k rifles. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: You rock on the Mauser photos they are beautiful. At Ellis we had 1891, 1895, 1898. Model 1935 and VZ's I just have to find my repair records before I list them. Thanks Steve

==re:==

I'm in the habit of making LOTS of new redirects, meaning that I do new pages for gun variants that we have grouped on particular pages, and then I redirect to the group page. The advantage is that it makes it simpler to insert gun page links when I'm doing a movie/TV page. Like, who wants to write '''<nowiki>[[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Tactical|Heckler & Koch USP Tactical]]</nowiki>''' when you can just write '''<nowiki>[[Heckler & Koch USP Tactical]]</nowiki>''' and be done with it? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

==Heckler & Koch MP7A1 and Heckler & Koch 416 ==

HI MoviePropMaster, I'm Gerry.I want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload pictures of a Heckler & Koch MP7A1 and the Keckler & Koch 416 I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.

==XM16E1 Photo==
Hey MPM, I hope that it did not upset you on the XM16E1 photo it was a configuration that most people have never seen or own. It was just one that was missing and the mod was a flash hider, chrome carrier to go with We Were Soldiers. If I did sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Your Break==
You deserve a break, you've done a lot of hard work for us. I hope you find taking pics fun again, just remember, you alone have taken more movie gun pics than any other on the net. It was my fault for starting the whole Frankengun thing, but I think the best way to fix it is to not allow it from now on, and credit you for any of the ones in current use. I can imagine it must be frustrating to have people messing with your work. It annoys me how people like Kin93 almost MASS-PRODUCE your images in this manner, and I don't see your name anywhere on "his" pics. At least Steve told you he used your M16A1 and M16 pics. Kin93 never even contacted you. Anyway, hope your hiatus ends soon, we all love your gun pics and apoligize for those who don't appreciate them. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:On the one hand, I think you definitely deserve a break. IMFDB doesn't pay the bills, after all, and anything you do for us should be done because you enjoy it, not because you feel obligated to do it.

:On the other hand, I don't think you should take it too personally if IMFDB users make "franken gun" pictures. Yes, they should give you credit (as Kin93 failed to do), but it doesn't mean they don't appreciate your work. Whenever someone does that to you again, you should warn them that you don't like them butchering your work, but please don't treat all of IMFDB as if we're like this. Besides your gun pictures (which are awesome), you're one of the most valuable people on this site. Even if you never post another gun picture again, your presence would be greatly missed. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Break ==

Sorry to hear about your most recent problem, and I agree, they should atleast give you credit when they edit your pictures, that's what I would do. And believe me, there are a quite a few users on here who apprecite your work. You are one of the most important users on this site because you have helped bring this site very far, and if there is anyone who deserves a break, it is definitely you. Hopefully you'll be able to find taking gun pictures fun again, and come back, but until then, enjoy your break. You will be missed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

'''Edit''' MPM2008, When you come back, I think you should see this:[http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MK23]

==RE: THANKS! for the note of support==
I'm glad to see your back and I'm sorry you had a tough time. We all missed you though, the site felt a little less complete without you. Sorry to hear that guy took credit for your work, I'm sure he'll get his soon enough >:)

BTW, check out the Dirty Harry movies, I've been working on them lately (I finished [[Enforcer, The|The Enforcer]] most recently) and am trying to get [[Sudden Impact]] done by tommorow. Anyway, welcome back! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: THANKS! for the note of support ==

Glad to have you back, and sorry to hear about the tough time you had during your break. Sorry to hear about the shotgun too, hopefully the credit found it's way to who it really belongs to. And I find those Franken Gun picture amusing too, everytime I see one, I wonder to myself how they do that, but figured it was photoshoping, did you see this one?:

[[Image:CustomNorthHollywoodAR15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Hybrid gun made to resemble the firearm used by Emil Matasareanu in the North Hollywood Shootout - 5.56mm]]

About the Wiki page I showed you, [[User:Cutaway|Cutaway]] uploaded your picture of the Mark 23 with the supressor on it on that site, but I also contacted MT2008 about it as well, and Cutaway agreed to take it off the page, don't be hard on Cutaway though, I don't think he knew that you didn't want your pictures on other sites.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

==Glad you're back!==

I'm relieved you came back. The past couple weeks just have not been the same with you gone. I totally understand what you said, though.

In your absence, we've still been enforcing rules regarding your pictures. Alienqueen and I took care of the pictures that Cutaway posted on the Gunpedia Wiki (he complied with my request to remove them). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

==Welcome back!==
Hey MPM, Glad that you are back hope things went well. I have been putting in some long hours down south also. Good to see your back at it. If there is anything we can do to help let us know. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Re: AMT Pistols page==
I haven't been talking to Rockwolf actually, I just figured I'd make the page because we needed it. It's understandable that no one wanted them, they are ugly and fire mostly unique cartridges. They are like 1911s on steroids. Anyway, I had Auto Mags on the mind because of the Sudden Impact page I'm soon to upload. BTW, how the hell do you write Auto Mag? Is it Auto Mag, AutoMag, or Automag? I figured it was the first since that's what's written on the gun in your pic (which looks great). That's a 180, right?

I'm proud of my Auto Mag III picture, since it was originally a gun on a rug, but I took the rug out. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::So should I change the page name to [[AMT Auto Mag Pistol Series|AMT AUTOMAG Pistol Series]]? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==re: Executive Decision==

Thank you, sir. Though I think did get maybe a ''little'' carried away with pics of the Glock 19 (seven total, one of which shows just the magazine). Usually, when I do that, it's because a movie has made me enamored with the particular gun that gets more screencaps than the rest. Watching "Executive Decision" has given me the worst urge to go out and blow $$$$$ I need for tuition on a Gen 1 Glock 19.

''When I see the 'crazy terrorist' with the Norinco Type 56-1 I always expect him to scream "I Blow You! Mother Bitches!!!!!" hahahahahaha.''

Haha, I should have recognized him! It was indeed Shaun Toub [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0869467/] who played both the crazy(er) terrorist with the AK folder in "Executive Decision", as well as the store clerk in "Bad Boys". -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

OK, wow, it happens that you post on my Talk Page at the same time I'm writing a response on yours! Haha. Thanks for the new "44 Minutes" M16 pic. Again, whenever you get around to it...Best, [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Request==

Excuse me, but I have a request. Could you combine your Remington 870 Folding stock, Ithaca 37, and MP40 images to make the cool looking Ithaca 37 from ''[[The Professionals]]''? You just take the a pistol grip of the Remington, add it on to the Ithaca 37, and then put MP40 stock on it. I would really appreciate it. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

::Here's a picture

[[Image:Prosm37.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

==The Last Crusade==
Excellent work with the page, that was always my favorite Indy film (Indiana Jones, I mean). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm glad to here you're doing all the Indiana Jones films, I was so sick of how crappy they were. And I agree, your screencaps look very clear. I have to brighten and sharpen my images just so they can even come close to yours. I just finished brightening and resaving all the Sudden Impact caps so I'll upload them tommorow if all things go well. I should probably go to sleep, it's 3:35am. But tommorow's Saturday and it's spring break from school so who cares? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Redacted==
I can image that movie offended you (and other veterans), it made all soldiers look like pyschopathic rapists. But I cannot say I would want it removed. Why? Because then we are just as one-sided as the admins. on Wikipedia who delete all the negative crap about President Obama (remember how much we criticized that?). While the movie is offensive (as is Bowling for Columbine), they still have guns so who are we to say they are unfit to be documented on here. (but understand I still am for what you said, the movie was very offensive).

I'm a good example of why Redacted should stay on the site (about 4 years ago). I watched the film but didn't know all the guns that well, and thought "I wonder what they are using. What AK is that?" Even though I didn't like the movie these questions still arose. I doubt I'm the only person in the world who's done this, so those who hated the movie but still wanted to know what guns were used are at a loss.

So my vote for deletion is "no". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Edit: I understand you aren't picking on me, you have every right to hate the movie, as does every veteran. I just think that how you feel about a movie doesn't mean it should be removed from the site. Hopefully you understand what I mean and not think I'm being on sided or anything. I totally agree with you about the film. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== imfdb is now controversial? ==

When did this happen? I haven't seen or heard anything.And if the site is now controversial who is upset about us? [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==V.I.P.==
Great job with [[V.I.P.]] so far. I haven't seen that show in a million years. I finally got the Dirty Harry movies done! Now I have a ton of other Eastwood films I'm going to do. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm not positive on what it is but it ''might'' be a Beretta 21A Bobcat threaded for suppressor, similair to this one:

[[Image:Beretta21ABobcatSuppressed.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Beretta 21A Bobcat threaded for a suppressor - .22 LR.]]

==Fictional Firearm article moves==
I like the changes you made to the fictional firearm titles, but gramatically speaking, the apostrophe should be before the 's'. It would only be placed after if it is a plural word ending in 's'. For example, the possessive of oceans would be oceans'. If it is singular it always ends in "'s" even if the word ends in 's' such as Jesus's. Hope that helps, if you care. -[[User:Unbreakablewatcher|UW]]
::fuck I should have known that. I was tired and it was late. I will change it later. Thx. MPM

==re: Browning BDA==

Nah, unfortunately, I totally forgot about the BDA when I did the page. Gunmaster was the one who recognized it based on your picture. For some reason, I kept thinking it was a Beretta of some kind and spent 20 minutes searching Beretta photos. My brain is kinda dead right now because I let myself get talked into running 8 miles this afternoon, on only 4 hrs. sleep.

I don't think it's a problem if you want to create pages for some new guns that may/may not be in movies. The only thing I find annoying is when people make pages for guns that ''couldn't'' appear in movies because they're only rare prototypes or variants that you know armorers wouldn't have (like the original SR9). Also, if you ever want to upload your MAG-7 shotgun picture, we can put it on the ''[[Romeo + Juliet]]'' page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Barb Wire==

Hey,

It's awesome you're screencapping ''[[Barb Wire]]'', but I thought I'd make some comments here (so we don't have edit conflicts) after looking at the screencaps with my eagle eyes ;)

*(1.) The SIG-Sauer is a P228, not a P226. You can see in the first shot that the trigger guard is rounded, not squared like on the 226. Denzel Washington used an identical gun (maybe even the same one) in the movie "Virtuosity", with that same custom laser-control grip. LMO has a picture of it on their site under their "Movie Guns" section.
*(2.) The gun you IDed as a Browning Hi-Power also seems to be the two-tone P228.
*(3.) The Congressionals' M16s look to me like the MGC replica M16s, except with A2 handguards and A1 flash hiders. If you look closely, it seems they have the same style forward assist as the MGC M16s.

Here's the "Virtuosity" P228, which, again, looks like it's the same one that's used in "Barb Wire": http://www.longmountain.com/movieguns/Virtuosity

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

:''also you notice that there's a bunch more guys posting FULL frame screengrabs? versus widescreen? should I replace a full frame shot with a widescreen of the same shot (thus showing more of the picture?)..... MPM''

:I don't think it matters TOO much. I use widescreen myself when I can, but full frame is fine, too. As long as the guns are visible, that will do. :)

:As far as replacing the Franken-guns, go for it. I've said before - nobody's entitled to complain when you replace images because yours are better (and they involve actual effort besides just going to Google or Photoshopping other pics). However, I'm starting to wonder how we can even begin to get every single variant. I mean, let's face it...there are SO many different Franken-M16s, H&Ks, etc. that you'd go insane trying to get every little variation. I wouldn't sweat it too much. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

== Image ==

About the picture, remember when the servers switched back in October? Well, two images you uploaded were lost. I wasn't sure if you noticed or not, so I took that image from the old server and uploaded here, and credited to you.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

== images ==

What with people overwriting images with the same images that are already on the site?

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Glock23.jpg]
[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg]

--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==Crank: High Voltage==
I was watching the red band trailer for [[Crank: High Voltage]] and I took some caps but the video quality was so crappy only one of the pics was even close to site-worthy. Since you seem pretty good at finding excellent quality HD trailers, I was wondering if you could take a look at it. That is if you aren't too busy. Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I watched ''[[Enemy at the Gates]]'' last night and saw some guns you missed, so I added the caps to the page, as well as a few minor add ons to the existing guns. It's your page of course so you decide what can stay or go. I tried to make every shot I took very important and took as few as possible. You may notice my images match yours pretty close, I finally figured out how to match your cap format. I need to brighten a little more though, they still look too dark. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
: Like I said, it is ''your'' page, you can remove any images I added if you don't like them. I only added one image to the Mosin Nagant section so Joseph Fiennes could have an image for his page if needed, and added two to the sniper version, because they were pretty good close ups. I also added three shots to the Kar98k sniper section, although the closeup in his room isn't the best so I suppose it could go. It's all up to you. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE:==

I definitely do not remember that one being in the third "Die Hard" movie. Our page doesn't have it, either. Hmmm...

As for the last post: '''"All you need for a movie is a girl and a gun."''' - Jean-Luc Godard (and yeah, he was a commie bastard, but he spoke wisdom on this point) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
:A DEA agent used one in ''[[Con Air]]'' if you were wondering. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Yeah, I'm replying to what you said in Matt's talk page. Now that I think of it, that ''could'' be th gun Pamela Anderson is holding. I'll check out Bionic Woman now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Category:B&W==
Hey MPM, I like your new sub-category for B&W films I came up with an idea for you. How about a category for Widescreen since it did not exist until after World War II somewhere about 1951 or 1952. Just a thought for you. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Happy Easter to you too MPM. Don't let them get to you. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Bionic Woman==

Nice job on the page! It needs gun photos and links, of course, but we'll get on that. Anyway, here are some quick observations...

*(1.) The MP5s you IDed as MP5A4s seem to have collapsible stocks, which makes them MP5A5s.
*(2.) The Serbian gangster's pistol, which you IDed as an S&W 5904, looks like a Browning BDA (the DA version of the Hi-Power, not the BDA-380).
*(3.) John got the last two right...they are a CZ-75 (or some clone) and a two-tone Walther P99, respectively.

Take care. Hope you had a happy Easter! Also, when I get home (I'm at work now...ugh) I'll have to put in my "Die Hard III" DVD and see where that Seecamp 32 that's on LMO's site appeared. I really don't remember it, but I'll look for you. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==

Ah, thanks for the new gun pictures! We '''really''' needed a two-tone Walther P99 because there are a LOT of movies that have them (''[[The Bourne Supremacy]]'', ''[[Underworld]]'', ''[[A History of Violence]]'', ''[[Far Cry (2009)|Far Cry]]'', etc.) I thought about asking you for one a while ago, but decided I should let you prioritize other stuff. Also, while I don't have screencaps for it, there were Browning BDAs used by Tibetan separatists in an episode of ''[[Ultimate Force]]'', so we can use that one on that page, too.

''Also what is with the gigantic ... but blurry ... screenshots that I see other users uploading?''

What do you mean? Can you show me examples? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==Spawn AMT 380 Backup Pistol==
Hey MPM, That AMT 380 Backup Pistol that's used in Spawn is just dirty or due to the lighting. AMT built the Backups in Stainless Steel only with the frame and top of the slide bead blasted. My aunt worked at AMT and I knew Harry Sanford since I was a kid until he passed away. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey MPM, No problem on the id for the Backup. AMT which was the last name for that company had several locations. As a kid I went to two different El Monte shops and my aunt worked at both Covina and Irwindale. I think my aunt has a couple of the earlier Backups I will see if I can get a photo of them. I filled in a few blank spots on unknown weapons on pages. It was fun doing that as making new pages can get a little tiring. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT==

The AMT Backup is really nice! It's good we have a picture of one for my ''Spawn'' page. I was about to upload a Google image search result, but obviously, yours is waaayy better.

So, I checked "Die Hard III" (got through about an hour last night, another hour this afternoon) and I don't know where the hell that Seecamp .32 appears in the movie. Either my eagle eyes are failing me (possible), or LMO got their facts wrong. Or maybe it was rented for "Die Hard III" for a scene that wasn't filmed. But it appears nowhere in the finished film that I can tell. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Scarface talk page ==

Yeah, now that I read what it said you're probably right. I just assumed it was some anonymous user trying to cause trouble. Whether it was or not, you're right - the discussion there is invalid now so I got rid of it again. Thanks for prompting me to take a second look, you were definitely right. Oh and a quick sidenote, the ''[[Bionic Woman]]'' page is looking great! You certainly put a good deal of work into that it looks like. I didn't get to see it when it was on but it looks pretty good from the caps you got. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

==High Standard 8111 page==
Hey MPM,I placed your High Standard K120 Shotgun photo on this page although the page name is not correct. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] listed it by the High Standard catalog number 8111 instead of the Model name '''High Standard FLITE KING'''. If you could fix this please. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey MPM, Thanks for the correction on the page. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Thanks ==

I can certainly understand the burnout feeling, especially when working with TV shows with so many episodes. That would be great if they would get those pictures; IMFDB is certainly indebted to you for all the hard work you're doing to get us exclusive pictures like that! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:35, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Did you take this picture?==
No, I just jacked it from google and touched it up with photoshop. Feel free to replace it whenever you want. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE:==

That would be REALLY cool if you got pictures of some of the sci-fi guns. There are a lot of pics of the Moritas floating around the 'Net, but most of them are (A.) shit quality, or (B.) the rubber stunt versions. We both know yours will inevitably be 100x better! Haha.

Also, I notice you were curious about these machine pistols from ''[[Timecop]]'':

[[Image:TimeCop-AutoGunS00a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]

I don't know what this damn thing is called, but it appears in quite a few TV shows and movies. Excalibur got some GREAT pics of them appearing in ''[[Smallville]]'':

[[Image:Clownrobbers2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

They also appeared in at least one episode of the TV show ''[[Viper]]'' (which also had the ''[[Timecop]]'' Taurus PT99 in its pilot episode) and I think I remember seeing them in an episode of ''[[The X-Files]]'' as well. Some of the ones used in ''[[Smallville]]'' seem to be the same ones used in ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'', and we have a picture of a rubber stunt version:

[[Image:Gun Cylon stunt.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Do you think your Canadian armorer acquaintances would have any idea what they might be? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

That "Cylon Gun" is a different one, look at the cocking handle on the side. It's similar, but different. Also, I can get some Moritas up, though they are Watermarked from the site I got them off. -protoAuthor

== Re: Image overwrites ==

I agree with you about the overwrites, I think you should be only one who is allowed to decide whether your images are to be overwritten or not. It just annoys me when some random user overwrites one of your images when it's not theirs. BTW, Great job on you most recent gun pictures.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Old Movies==
Hey MPM, Thanks for the compliment on the old movies that I have been posting. Some of them are harder to get clean screencaps on as the master has not been restored. But that is something I a lot of in my own library so I will keep filling the empty spots. I also have westerns dating back than also those will come in due time. One more note for you as it is important to both of us SAG signed Friday and will announce Monday. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== re: bourne ==

Thanks! Yeah, I figured that because of its age and its less action-oriented story it would have less guns but it surprised me! Trying to identify that rifle really bothered me, I looked through a bunch of H&K and SIG rifles but then when I saw the side shot of it (which is much too brief), I wondered the same thing about the Ruger. That was really the only trouble I had save for the two pistols I currently have labelled as "unidentified" and the CZ-82 I had labelled as a Makarov (but GM45 helped out a good bit with identifying that, as well as noting the Beretta as an original 92 model rather than the 92S I had it labelled as). All in all it wasn't a bad movie at all, if some parts were a little slow (probably to draw in a more diverse audience rather than the typical espionage/action crowd. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 18:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

==Re: New images==

'''Nice!''' I'm so glad we have a two-tone Jericho now. It seems like every other action movie made these days features the lead bad guy using a gun in the exact same configuration. As far as getting a two-tone FS model, I think it's mostly the British armorers who use that model because as best I know, the 941FS was the only version ever sold in Europe. I think the two-tone 941FS pistols that you see in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]'', ''[[Casino Royale]]'', ''[[Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life]]'', and ''[[Children of Men]]'' are all the exact same gun, because all of those shows were supplied by Crowntower, Ltd. (according to credits). It's likely that you're seeing the same pistol being reused in many films. Fortunately, there are plenty of American action movies which use the original model with the slide safety in two-tone (i.e. my page for ''[[Under Siege 2: Dark Territory]]'').

I'm also happy to have a good Benelli M3, too! Thanks again for all of these. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Nice! ==

Awesome work on the new pictures, we needed a two tone Jericho 941. From the looks of it many of the movies on here use the early model Jerichos, the only page I've seen that had a Jericho without the safety on the slide is [[District B13]]. Anyway, Thanks for the new gun pictures, they're highly appreciated. By the way, is there a such thing as a reverse two tone Jericho 941? Just wondering.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::Excellent work, I kind of missed seeing your work. Screencaps improve the site but your images complete it :). If the '94 doesn't have a saddle ring or holes for one, it isn't a saddle ring. I'd say its a Trapper Carbine, is the barrel 16"?

==Re:==

Nice picture...I would say how about a Vertec section under the Beretta 92 page? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

if you watch 2:55:58 of a bridge to far you will see german soldiers with m1 garands , I think they must have had a shortage of k98k's in this film.

== Hey MPM ==

Someone is using your Lee-enfield No1 MkIII picture in this wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Enfield_rifle
[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:06, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taps==
I remember you asked if I had Mr. & Mrs. Smith and Taps, and guess what? I bought Taps. I have it sitting in my screencapping box and will try to do it soon. I also grabbed Appaloosa, which I've been meaning to grab for a while. I'll be screencapping that now. :)

This is irrelevant, but I got to hand a Federal M201-Z gas gun today. I went to this man's house who was a former Correctional Officer, and he owns one. He said he owned a gas gun and I asked if it was a Federal M201-Z, which shocked him since most people don't know these guns off the top of their head. Needless to say I thought it was awesome. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Thank you for Troll Removal==
Thank you for removing the troll who was among other things messing with the content of the M16 page. I've gone through and undid several other posts by this person as they contributed nothing to the pages modified. Rockwolf66

==Re:Chuck guns==

An armorer from ISS has been sending me photographs of stuff from their inventory that has appeared in movies and TV shows, including the guns from "Chuck". I'm also going to be posting photos of an M1903 Springfield from "Letters from Iwo Jima" and a nickel PPK from the "Austin Powers" movies that he sent me, too.

Also, did you check out some of the pics I posted on ''[[The Spirit]]'' page? I got great pics of Samuel L. Jackson's revolvers from that movie, and of the O/U shotguns he used, plus Eva Mendes' Beretta Jetfire. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE:WTF? ==

As much as I love the Resident Evil videogames and it's guns, I would have to say no to a Samurai Edge page. The Samurai Edge is basically a Beretta 92FS with modified parts, but is still visually the same looking gun, not too different to be worth noting on anything else beside the videogame pages, mockups such as the Aliens' Pluse Rifle are a different story. Plus, not only did he make the page, but it seems that the user copied and pasted the entire article off the Resident Evil Wiki up to the placement of the images, See here [http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Samurai_Edge], and you'll notice everything is the same. I would say delete the page, but I would get word from MT2008, and GM45 before doing anything.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

:Plagiarism is a huge no-no. So, it is now gone. I would maybe say OK to an entry on the Beretta 92 pistol series page, but certainly not if everything is copied word-for-word from another Wiki. If we see that, there's no reason not to shoot (delete) on sight. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem MPM2008, I deleted the article.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

==Re: 7.7mm Arisaka Type 02 Paratrooper Takedown rifle==
Hey MPM, Same that people have to chisel others out of what they have. I know how that goes I just try not to think about it anymore. The 7.7mm Arisaka Type 02 Paratrooper Takedown rifle was at Ellis Mercantile as that was were the guns came from for Dirty Harry except for the Model 29. I looked at it and just shook my head at what they did to sporterize them. We also had the 7.7mm Arisaka Type 02 Paratrooper Takedown rifle that was used in the Manchurian Candidate. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Tutone Taurus PT92 AFS==
Your images are always useful. I put it on the [[Shoot 'Em Up]] page, as that is the only page off the top of my head that I know has that gun in it. Excellent work as always. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks, I didn't even notice that. Again, excellent image. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Remington 700P==
MPM, as far as the PSS entry goes someone was converting all of the 700PSS entries to 700P entries. I put a bit of data on the 700 Police entry so that hopefully People will realize that not every black remington 700 is a P model. I myself own a 700P in .300 Winmag and someday I should try and get a good photo of is so that we can referance the barrel contures. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:I am changing all the 700P entrys back to PSS enties.Still as I'm not at home and I don't own a PSS I'm not going to make any judgements on if the rifles really are P models or PSS models. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

==Shotgun Blanks==
Hi MPM, I was wondering if you could help me out with something. Me and my dad are building 12 Gauge shotgun blanks with a reloading press for a movie I'm making in June with some friends, and we were wondering, is there an alternative method of packing in the power than to keep the plastic wad in? Because that plastic wad can be lethal and while we know are safety, sometimes we have to fire blanks at people. Now, he figures something like a wad of cardboard could replace it, but we don't want to try anything unsafe without some more information.

Since a box of 20 blanks is $30 bucks, we figure shotgun blanks are way cheaper to make ourselves. I hope you know a method, or else I may have to pull out the heavy kevlar vests my dad has ;). Or we are going to have to use a LOT more camera tricks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Taurus PT92 ==

Hey MPM2008, thanks for the new Taurus PT92 pictures, they're amazing, especially the two tone ones, keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, I greatly appreciate those pics, too! The one with the wood grips looks identical to the PT92 that I used to own (although I replaced the wood grips with a set of Hogues not long after I got it). And the two-tone is awesome - did you make it with ''Darkman II'' in mind? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Reply ==

You're welcome, and yeah, I remember the days when we had those crappy images. I even used to be impressed by some of them, but then when you came along, you showed we otherwise, and now I can't stand looking at airsoft images on this site. No one can shoot gun pictures better then you. And awesome work on the Mossberg 590, [[User: Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] asked for it, and there's a place for it on the [[Dead Presidents]] page, I'll be sure to put it there right now. Thanks once again, you have out did yourself once again.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem, and don't worry, I'm sure you're fine. We all get that way after alot of hard work. And by the way, is that Mossberg 590 something that should go on [[MoviePropMaster2008: IMFDB's Own Armorer|your page]]?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

:Haha, Alienqueen beat me to the punch. But I agree...of course your images are so much better than airsoft images. Remember when our SP89 image used to be a picture of an airsoft MP5K with an SP89-style hand guard? I cringe at the memory now.

:BTW, sorry I haven't been on so much recently, but between the move out of my apartment in TX and my crash-course in Arabic, I've been pretty busy. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Mossberg 590 from Dead Presidents==

Thanks for finally uploading it with the wood furniture, now the page looks cooler. I also saw you uploaded a Model 36 Flat Latch so I'll change that if it hasn't already been altered. ~[[User:yournamehere|Yournamehere]]

==Re: Inox==

Yeah, two-tone P226s are pretty common in movies. The "reverse two-tone" from ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]'' is rare (mostly because it wasn't available that way from the factory), but the normal two-tone (nickel slide, black frame, nickel controls) has been in plenty of movies. At the very least, I figured we needed one for the ''[[Face/Off]]'' and ''[[Bad Boys II]]'' pages, since the tutone P226 is very prominently featured in both of those movies.

As far as the Inox goes, whenever you can get around it, please do it. The fact that we don't have a good image of a 92FS Inox is kind of embarrassing, since the stock image used on our Beretta 92 series page has appeared on almost 75 movie/TV show pages now. The way I see it, the more a gun image appears on IMFDB, the more urgent it is that it needs to be replaced if it hasn't received the MPM2008 treatment yet.

And yes, I agree that the newer Inox Berettas are pretty ugly; the fact that the controls are now black was obviously done to lower production costs. The older ones look way better. Also, I don't think I've seen an Inox with black controls in a movie (besides ''[[Shaft]]'', which featured those cheap 8mm blank replicas that also had black controls), and as I know we agree, it's best to use guns that look identical to the ones which our visitors have seen in their favorite action films. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

==Something you should check out==

Have you seen this:

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:MostImages

This shows the most-used images on IMFDB, and of course, they're all gun images. Anyway, you can see that most of them are gun images you uploaded, but a few in the Top 25 aren't. The Browning M2 image that was uploaded by Bunni when this site was started has been on 108 pages, the Inox image has been on 74, and the M60 has been on 70.

Anyway, I mention it because I think it's a good guide for stuff to prioritize. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

==MP5K request==
I apoligize for requesting an image (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to yet or not [?]) but I've noticed that more and more movies use SEF MPK5s with the foregrips removed to make them machine pistols (including ''[[Taken]]'' which I just finished screencapping) so I figured you'd be the man to find one. Thanks, and again sorry. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== RE: Calico Weapons page ==

Great work, The page looks great. The Calico Rifles are probably the most futuristic guns I've seen, they look like something out of Star Wars. I'll be sure to keep a look out for any Calicos on movie pages, I listed Bad Boys on th page just now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

:Well, it's interesting you say that, Alienqueen, considering that the Calicos have been around for over 20 years now!

:MPM: The page looks much, MUCH better now. I suck with Calicos myself (now that they're so much harder to find), and I get lost with the different variants. Also, have you ever noticed that Calico used to call their weapons the "Liberty I" and "Liberty II"? What is with the "Liberty" nomenclature, and which guns does it apply to?

:Oh, yeah, and are you sure the ''Deep Rising'' Calicos are the M955A? Not saying you're wrong, just that I personally can't tell the barrel length with those fake rotating barrels on them. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

::OK, thanks for the explanation about the "Liberty" thing. As far as ''Deep Rising'' goes, what you are saying makes sense.

::I have one other question which you might be able to help me with...can you tell what kind of optics are used on the M1-L1s in ''[[Deep Rising]]''? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey MPM, I have a request for you. When I was at Ellis Mercantile we had a pair of custom M-100's built by LaFrance Specialties for a show. Would it be okay to change your M-100 into that configuration? Or you can set it up yourself as there is a photo of it on World Guns.ru smg .Let me know when you can. Thanks. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey MPM, Ellis supplied LaFrance with M100 rifles and he made pistols out of them. They are different then the M110 pistols as they still have the rifle looks. I can mod you photo with you permission and then upload it under LaFrance Specialties M100 Calico Pistol. If it's not up to you standard on the photo when I upload it delete it.Let me know when you can. Thanks. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Hey MPM, The LaFrance Calicos were sold when the Ellis Gun Room was sold off. I have access to the rental records for them so I can find out what show they were built for. As for a photo World Guns.ru has a photo of one from LaFrance. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey MPM, I uploaded the image of the LaFrance built M100 Calico Pistol. I know that Ellis had two of these I will check with Syd to see if they had them also. The photo is not as good as yours but it will work for now unless you modify one of you photos to match. I don't think we will ever see these in the film industry again. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Small Request ==

Hey, MPM2008, I'm not sure if you're still calling a hiatus on requests at this time, but if you're not, I would like to know if you can upload another Remington 870 Police riot shotgun like the one here [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg], but with synthetic furniture if you get the chance. Thanks, and sorry if I added to your list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== Experimental Guns ==

I say get rid of any experimental or old gun pages, since they have no chance of appearing in anything anyway, Cutaway created way too many pages like that. But we should keep the ones you created since you're a movie armorer, and like you said, they're already blank adopted, so they have a chance at appearing in a movie eventually, plus they're nice pictures. So my opinion is to get rid of the experimental guns, and keep the pages you created even if they don't appear in anything because you never when you'll be called to a set or work on a movie that will need them.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

:I've already deleted a whole bunch of Cutaway's gun pages that don't appear in movies. If you want to delete any more, I think it's fine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== Greetings! ==

Hello MPM2008, I'm a new user to this site, 500Magnum. I just would like to express how I think your pictures are the bomb! I have never seen such fine looking pictures in my lifetime. Keep up all that hard work!
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magum]]

==S&W 60==
It's okay, it seems like a pretty easy mistake to make when a gun is improperly labeled by the factory. I'm actually somewhat relieved it actually IS a model 60, because now I don't have to find the image and change it to a Model 36 Satin nickel on all the captions where the image was used on a movie page. I'm glad you cleared that up. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Ich verstehe nicht==

I figured this would be your kinda movie! It even has the hottie from ''Downfall'' toting automatic weapons (though she gets killed early on, sadly). It's a pretty good movie; one of the CT analysts I used to work with recommended it to me.

I'm going to start uploading my screencaps soon. Maybe you can help me with some of the guns I'm not sure about. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:22, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

==FN 303 pic==

Thanks for the new FN303 pic-[[User:SB2296|SB2296]]

==Use of Pictures==
Hey, MPM, a friend of mine on another forum is making a continuing thread about "Fantastic Firearms". With pictures. I was wondering if I could say he could use your pictures in his article, since they're so awesome. -protoAuthor
:Also, could you get a good picture of a sawed-off Remington 870 with an Enforcer pistol grip?

==RE:==

First of all, I'm sorry I merged the Zastava M70 page without asking you. However, I didn't '''delete''' the page for that gun; I simply copied the text onto the AK-47 page and then '''re-directed''' the page to go to the Zastava M70 entry on the AK-47 page. If you type in "Zastava M70" in the search engine, it will take you to the new page.

If you want to change it back, that's cool, but I must ask you to consider whether your objections have merit. You seem to be worried that people won't be able to find the Zastava M70; if we do '''re-directs''', then this doesn't happen. And remember that our previous discussion about where to put the M70 was before we knew how to do re-directs.

Also, if SB2296 actually '''deleted''' the PSL page without doing a re-direct, then he is '''not''' doing the same thing I do. I would never want users to be confused; but I think that with re-directs, this doesn't happen. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

:The M70 may be built on an RPK receiver, but surely you can't deny that its '''role''' is that of an automatic rifle, not an LMG or squad automatic weapon (like the RPK)? Everything else about the gun is roughly AK-based (albeit with the many modifications specific to Serb needs, like the GL sight). That's how I see it - the AK-47 page is more-or-less intended for AK-type '''rifles''', not light machine guns. And the M70 is, fundamentally, still a rifle, even if it's built on an LMG receiver. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

::You raise a good point, and I actually considered moving the Galil and Valmet pages a while ago. Which raises another point - I wound up not doing it because the Valmet M78 and Galil look very different from the AK-47 or AKM, even though the receiver design is very similar. Whereas the M70 still does look like an AK, and is usually used to impersonate Russian AK variants in movies. On the other hand, I would ''maybe'' consider moving the Valmet M78 to the RPK page, since we both know that the M78 has most often been used in Hollywood to impersonate RPKs.

::Again, I don't want to sound like I'm fighting you too much or anything, and I don't want us to get '''too''' upset about this. I only raise these points because I think it's worth asking ourselves how to be consistent in our classification scheme. These are, of course, issues that are inherent to guns that don't fit into a particular page or category so easily.

::Also, before I forget...thanks so much for the new pictures you've uploaded recently! Where did you get those Howa Type 89s? It says on Wikipedia that the Type 89 was never exported out of Japan. It's also really nice that we have a good Blaser R93 picture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

==FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle Page==
Hey MPM, I changed the FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle page back to it original format and added info explaining that the weapon is based on the stamped receiver RPK and not the Dragunov. Some think that it's a SVD but it's not it's more like a Yugo .308 AK. So all in good now. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==RE: Why do people forget Category:Movie?==

Yeah, I agree with you there. It just annoyed me because it's right in the description before they create page using the box, but like you said, it's probably better if they don't. One thing I hate the most is having a visitor find their favorite movie in the Categories, and clicking on it to find a blank or poorly made page, but hopefully that problem will be phased out with time. By the way, I got rid of and deleted those crappy movie templates that [[User: Dragon]] made, so you guys don't have to worry about seeing them anymore. Best Regards.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 07:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Picture Request ==
i am really sorry to bother you with this but i would like you to take a picture of a AK-74 and AK-74M. I am really sorry MPM2008 but i love your pictures and we need a AK-74 and AK-74M Picture.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:34, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

==Bren Ten "Peregrine Falcon". I can get you a picture.==
Hey, MPM, I've got a book with a picture of the Bren Ten, I could scan that for you if you'd like. It is old and black and white, though.-protoAuthor
:Done, put it on the "Last Action Hero" page. It also appears that tutone is standard, because that picture is from a gun digest.-protoAuthor

== PT99 ==

We can use these images to the page of the PT99? - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
[[Image:MindPt99.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:TauPt99O.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

== Re: Red Heat Link ==

No problem, I think those linked headings were there for ages before you started editing. Anyway, awesome work on the page, it looks hundreds of times better now. Is the Podbyrin picture you uploaded the actual gun from the movie? It looks great.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Podbyrin ==

Yeah, I just noticed the trigger guard after I sent the message, but no, don't remove it, despite the trigger guard, it's perfect. Plus it's nice to have another unique gun on this site, and it may be the only high resolution picture of the Podbyrin on the net. Thanks again for the new picture, and by the way, thanks alot for the Two Tone M1911A1 you uploaded a few days, it's one of my favorite images on the site.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:59, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Nice Podbyrin Pic! ==

Sweet! I like that picture. I haven't seen [[Red Heat]], but I've been dying to see the Podbyrin 9.2mm. Good work MPM2008! -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

:It looks better! But please don't butcher a 92SB (which are kind of rare nowadays) to achieve the same effect in real life! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::I can't even tell it is photoshopped. You may have noticed my comment on the Podbyrin page noting the wrong trigger guard. Maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't a Walther P38 trigger guard be better suited, since the gun is a "P38 on steroids"? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Sorry MPM2008, I cut and pasted your sig block by mistake as a quick means of leaving my signature. I sometimes have the habit of pasting and modding words to get things done quicker, anyway i have corrected the mistake on the talk page - [[User:Cutaway]] 03:21AM (UTC)

==Matrix screencap==
I noticed you replaced my screencap with this:

[[Image:Matrix-TwinMP5Kfirea.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

If it is any consolation, I had planned to reupload all of the images resized, sharpened, and brightened. Now that school will be over at the end of next week, I'll have more free time to get it done (as well as the other Matrix films). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:It's no big deal or anything (and I did think it was cool you grabbed the same frame), I just thought I'd let you know incase you had planned to replace my screencaps or something. My sisters laptop stretches images for some reason, I can fix that too but it is a tad harder... - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I didn't do it to be immature, I did it because your images make mine look like crap in comparison and I figured it stood out too much. Even with all the image editing I did I couldn't get the color contrast correct. Sorry... - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::It's alright, I understand your frustration and I've definately run into petty people on the net before. Keep an eye out for Matrix Reloaded, it's my next project. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Czech BRNO VZ24 Mauser==
Hey MPM, The Czech BRNO VZ24 Mauser Rifles built before the war were similar to the M24 Yugo or 1935 Peruvian with straight bolt handle, long handguard and different rear sight. It was during the war that the Germans changed them to K98K standard. We had them both in Ellis Mercantile pre-war VZ24 and wartime production. I think that if it is a VZ24 wartime production it should be in the K98k page as they were K98k but the pre war rifles should be on the Mauser Rifle page. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Small Request==
MPM, I know you're not taking requests right now, but I have a small one compared to my last request (The Proffessionals Ithaca 37; I'm sorry about adding it to your to-do list). Could you possibly create a Cobray M11/9 with a MAC-11 style stock (the parts are interchangable, right)? We could use it for our ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' and ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' pages. Thanks and have a great summer. - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]

==CZ75 WITHOUT Ring Hammer==
Hey, MPM, protoAuthor here. Do you have an early-edition CZ75? One without the ring hammer, but with the...damn, forget the term, but the 1911-looking hammer. Just wondering if you could get a picture of one up here, for articles like Gunsmith Cats. No biggie if you don't, I can probably find a good picture on JC Devine some day-protoAuthor

==Seven Days==

Yes, I am an absent-minded moron. I admit it. I even checked the page history and then forgot who I was planning to address. :)

Anyway, watching the AVIs of ''[[Seven Days]]'' has made me realize what a ridiculous number of franken-M16s there are in the biz. This show has some of the same XM177 mock-ups seen in ''[[The Rock]]'' and other movies/TV shows - the ones that have M16A2 receivers but chopped barrels with the fake XM177-style compensators. I've seen some episodes that also feature M16 SP1s with A2 hand guards and A1 flash hiders (just like in ''[[The X-Files]]''). Any chance you'd be willing to do some more franken-M16 pictures, or let me Photoshop a few? (of course, I won't do it without your permission)

Here's a couple from Season 1 episodes:

[[Image:Vlcsnap-00061.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00067.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00023.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00040.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Thanks again. Hope work hasn't been too bad for you. I just watched a TV show where an actor threw down his M16A1 (a real one, not one of the rubber stunt versions) and thought of what you told us in that forum topic. Haha. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Honoring Actors who have passed away ==

Read your suggestion about the addon for the pages of deceased actors/ actresses, and I think it'd be a good idea. I also have a couple other additions for that list, namely [[Alexander Godunov]] and [[Heath Ledger]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think it's a great idea. I could find some good screenshots of Carradine from the Kill Bill movies if you want, so we don't grab a google image or something. (edit: I checked the page, your image is just fine). It's a shame about Carradine, not the most honorable way to go :( - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Hey MPM, I think it's a GREAT idea to honor the actors that have passed away. I think that it would raise the level of IMFDB another notch considering that people from the industry are now checking out this site more often. What ever you do on this I will use on a lot of my pages since it's mostly B&W and those actors are gone for the most part. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
Glad you liked the Heston photo with his DOB and DOD. That was my contribution. I think you're onto something.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
== Re: Godunov? ==

According to his Wikipedia article, he passed away in May 1995 due to a combination of alcohol abuse and Hepatitis complications. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==

That's a very good idea, I say go for it. I would be great to honor some of the greatest actors seen in movies. [[Roy Scheider]] is a good one too, I was going to put something on the Jaws page for him, but I wasn't sure how it would work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Over reacting ==

Ok, I might agree the Team America one deleting might have been over doing it. I was just pissed off that no one cares about South Park, The Simpsons, and American Dad, not to mention Family Guy. I see HUGE discussions on what kind of weapons they are using when clearly most of them were fictional guns drew up because the guy drawing doesnt know a thing about guns or wasnt told to be more detail with them, the rest of the shows look like doodles, why make the guns look like guns. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== VG guns ==

Well some games can be forgiven to be a little bit lack of detail, but quite a few games do go out, record the sound of the real gun shots and use those in the final production, the bigger problem most gamers has with VG guns is more on their accuracy and power compared to the real thing. VG developers sometimes significantly just make guns that would be powerful and accurate as hell weak as fuck for the sake of game balance. And going with Modern Warfare 2, some of the guns are just stupid for what real world special forces would use. I mean the Bushmaster ACR? I can see how it has military uses, but I don't even think it was even considered for military use. Russian Ultranationalist using AUGs and FAMAS? Spas 12s? Oh yeah and the one big thing a Kriss Super V. That thing last I heard wasn't even in full production yet and they somehow have Russian terrorists get ahold of one? At least with COD4, they were semi consistent with what primary guns people use, the SAS and Marines using M4 weapons, the enemy using AKs, but the random USPs, Berettas and the one mission where you as the SAS trooper holding and M24 sniper rifle was just piss poor. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== RE: VG guns ==
I agree with you MPM, but only because most of those experimental and rare guns are pieces of shit. For exemple, look at how many games have the XM8! The XM8 sucks ass and video game developers love them. The same thing happens with the XM29. It's a piece of shit and video game developers love them because it looks futuristic and cool. It also happens wtih the SPAS-12. It's really fucking weird to see a discontinued, really expensive shotgun being used by police or Military soldiers in video games.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

:Speaking as someone who first got into modern military/LE weaponry by doing weapons skins for ''[[Half-Life]]'' mods in my teens, I can say that most game dev teams really have no common sense when it comes to weapons. The SPAS-12 is actually a very good example. I remember on my first mod (which never got finished), there was a lot of disagreement amongst the members of my team over what type of shotgun we were going to have. Most members wanted the SPAS-12 because they all thought it looked cooler, while I wanted a pistol-grip Mossberg with heat shield (I had just been to a gun show where I had the chance to hold one, and being 17, I thought it was the coolest gun ever). Ultimately, the SPAS-12 won out when we voted on our forum. Of course, this was an unprofessional mod being designed by high school and college students, but most of the professional teams in the business aren't that much different - the designers are all geeks who have zero real-life experience with firearms. Whenever they choose which guns are going to appear in the game, the team members almost always pick what they've seen in other video games or their favorite movies. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== RE: SPAS 12 ==
Yes, the SPAS-12 apears in movies all the time, however, i was talking about how it's weird to see SPAS-12s being used by Militarys and terrorist/criminals because they are discountinued(I probably spelled that wrong) and expensive. The SPAS-12 does needs a place in IMFDB. So does the XM8 even though the only XM8s that appear in movies and television are Mock-ups like the ones in XXX 2.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Understood==

Yeah, I should've responded on Oliveira's page. I got carried away again... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== thank you for editing ==

Thank you for your editing of things specifically the star trek page which looks great now. You're Awsome!!!!!!

==Re: Our own movie==

OK, so the idea of IMFDB doing its own action movie (with an actual budget, storyline, and production staff) is a total fantasy, but here's something a little more grounded in reality: What would you think of a short home-made video where we show off some blank-adapted firearms, provide narration describing how they work, maybe even do a brief firing demo where we fire a few rounds through a pistol at someone's range? IMFDB already has a YouTube account (under Bunni's name) - we would just post it there. Nothing too fancy - just a video that would explain to people that, contrary to popular belief, the guns they see in movies are real. I'm still amazed at how many people seem to think they're "fake" (just talked to another gun owner on another message board who initially didn't believe me).

Also, that reminds me...what are rental fees at the armories nowadays? Does it cost significantly more to rent adapt a blank-adapted pistol as it costs me to rent an unmodified pistol from my local range? Of course, I'm guessing blanks themselves are the bigger expense (since the armories all do their own loads). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:Oh, yeah, and by this, I mean that the blank-adapted firearms in the video would be rented/borrowed from one of the major rental armories. If that's even possible... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:00, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

::I don't see why the action movie is a fantasy. I could get someone to write us a script, and if we all pooled our resources... We have people who can be actors on this site (myself included), I'm sure. We just need money. How many members do we have?-protoAuthor

:::ProtoAuthor, I have been on some film sets (mostly when I was younger and several major shows were filmed in my home town), and I know enough about the industry to know that that's not a realistic goal.

:::MPM, wow, I had no idea blank costs had risen THAT high, even though my sources have always told me they are more expensive than live rounds. And sorry to hear about the SAG losses, though I remember hearing about it earlier (you're actually one of a couple people I know working in showbiz who have told me the same story about how it affects them).

:::That being said, the best I can say is that I'd rent one of the guns that hasn't "paid for itself" in rentals yet (i.e. one of your Springfield XDs or FNPs), so it would be a step forward to a return on the investment. But I do understand the issue with blanks, that and the fact that I appreciate how hard it is given your schedule. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

:::''rule of thumb is usually 10% of full replacement costs for one week.''

:::So, in other words, an $800 pistol would rent for $80 a week? Does it adjust as a gun loses Blue Book value? (i.e. do Gen 2 Glocks rent for lower prices than Gen 3 Glocks)? Also, I'm guessing daily rentals or student rates aren't SOP? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== SAG Strike ==
Ok, i know some things about the SAG strike but i didn't knew it was that bad! Can you tell me how the SAG strike affected movie armourers?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:18, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== new user issue ==

My guess would be an issue with his browser. To troubleshoot I'd suggest first creating a new account using the same computer, if the problem persists I would change to a different browser (ie. Firefox) and if it still persists try a different computer. I bet simply changing browsers will take care of it though. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Much as I hate to be down on a page obvious work has gone into... ==

[[Einhander]]

It's a scrolling shooter where the player controls a spaceship. I can see how two of the pictured weapons could be based on real-life weaponry, but you could say the same of Halo [sniper rifle as NTW-20, assault rifle as FN F2000] and I don't think that's around anymore. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

==Holland & Holland Page==
Thanks for the compliment. Boy I wish one of those H&H rifles pictured were mine. But I'm just a mere mortal who has only held an H&H Double (owned by a wealthy local businessman). And I count myself lucky for that experience. The photos are from the Nitro Express Forums site. http://nitroexpress.com/
But thanks again. I figured it was time that we had a page for those great (and expensive) doubles. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks, and Little help please ==

First thanks for your revamp of the Calico weapons, great photos. Second I was wondering if you could help ID this gun from the Australian show [[Sea Patrol]]:

[[Image:Sea Patrol Revolver 2.png]]

Nothing I find seems right, it looks like a Smith and Wesson but the pattern on the handle seems off. Revolvers aren't my strong suit.

Thanks, and keep up the great photographing.
[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]] 22:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

==Memorial Photos==
I'm flexible. If that is what folks want done or want to do I won't throw a hissy fit if they replace the photos I added. I've heard from different contributors regarding the memorial photos. Some people like what I've been doing - gives it a Hollywood feeling. But you an a couple others have suggested using screencaps with the actors in their iconic roles. That's the nice thing about imfdb. we can all contribute. For me it's just fun. Good hearing from you. Glad to know that folks are not against the memorial photo idea. Just have different opinions on how to format them. Or is it present? Well you know what I mean. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

==Test Template Page==
Hey MPM, Nice test page showing the difference between old and new. Adding a new column is easy just have to figure out what to name the column and how wide to max it out. I am working on the AK and M1911 right now to test but I can see right now to add a note section. Let me know what you think. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
: Hey MPM, Added the notes column check it out. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==The Daewoo K3==

Hey, MPM, I just made a page for the [[Daewoo K3]]. I just figured out last night (with Steve's help) that some "M249s" in movies are visually-modified K3s (like the one used by [[Kevin Costner]] in ''[[3000 Miles to Graceland]]''). Can you tell me more about the obstacles to buying M249s which led armorers to use the K3? I figured I should get input from both of you on this so that the summary is accurate as possible. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

:Steve says they were apparently cheaper at one time. One thing I've noticed is that the K3s seem to appear mostly in action movies filmed in Canada. If you happen to run into one of the K3s made to look M249-ish, please do tell. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== I hate puppets ==

It's not that I hate puppets. It's that I hate taking it seriously. I mean come on. We're talking about what kind of guns they armed little string puppets. Where did they come to the conclusion that I hate puppets? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, well I got tired of looking at the cartoons, screen caps or not. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

==Rock Island Armory Commander==
Hey MPM, You would not happen to have a photo of a Rock Island Armory Commander. Ben Stiller uses one in [[Starsky & Hutch (2004)]]. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey MPM, Good to see that you are busy working I know several that are just looking for some work. The RIA Commander in the photo has Colt Series 70 checkered grips on it. No hurry on the photo as I will put a filler in it place for now. Thanks. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Template ==

Hey MPM2008, I just want to say amazing work on the new template. That is a good example of how a template should look, I can actually see that successfully showing up on more page in the future. It looks millions of times better then the crappy ones Dragon made months ago. Good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks but PhoenixEnt designed the original template. I am just playing around with it to try to see what format seems best, and boy is it hard. I sure hope we all agree on something :) MPM2008

I Concur, this will help keep the information neat and organized. This will especially be good to have on certain pages. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

The only issue I can potentially see is if no character is seen using something; for example, a remote weapon who's controller isn't identified, a weapon found on the ground but not picked up, or whatever. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

:Hey MPM, Thanks for the compliment on the template layout. You really brought it out to the for front. I just brought to IMFDB some items we used on another wiki. I do believe that all the Admins will come to the same page on how the final layout will look. It will look great when we all get on board the same train. Thanks Again. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::I think we should use more, although it'll take alot of work getting used to. I agree to anything that will help the site look neater, plus I would like to see that template on more pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

*slaps forehead* OK, I admit it, I really am going senile at 23. Either that or the fact that I had my Arabic final yesterday and have been sleep-deprived for the better part of the week. Sorry, but don't take it personally. Oh, and nice job. ;) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

I prefer Chronological order as well, since it neatly documents each year the guns appeared each year without needing a character to use it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

:I figured there was already a consensus that we do things by chronological order? I definitely agree with the idea, 100%. Also, in situations where we have multiple movies featuring the same gun in one year, then we go to alphabetical order within those years only. For example, if we have listed ten films, all released in 1996, that feature the Beretta 92F, those ten films should be alphabetical order. There might even be a way to change the columns so that we won't have to write "1996" for all ten films, though I have no idea how right now. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Zombieland Mare's Leg pistol==
I understand my comment on the Mare's Leg gun disrupted the flow of the page, so I figured I'd tell you a little bit about it. I'd assume it is a C.B. Custom model. They've been selling the "Mare's Leg" in typical pistol calibers (.38spl, .45LC, .357Mag) and consider it a pistol so civilians can buy it without paying a tax for a cut down rifle. Since the gun looks so new and shiny, this could be assumed. Also, they sell the gun with a non-loop lever. LSI (Legacy Sports International) has also been reproducing Mare's Leg guns since 2008, so perhaps this film bought one brand new from the company to show it off (but since the movie was filmed at this time it would be BRAND new). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== The Hills Have Eyes ==

Sorry about that, I couldn't figure out why it was doing that, so I just deleted the redirect page, if you can make a better redirect, go ahead. I'm not too good at doing redirects myself.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 17:06, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem, I was going to try getting rid of the Category: Movie tab at first, but everytime I hit the Edit tab, it would bring me to the page it redirected to, so I just decided to get rid of it, thanks for creating a better redirect by the way. --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Alien resurrection ==

I added a note to [[Alien: Resurrection]] about a page I found on the props, you might want to take a look and see if it's legit since it implies most or all the sci-fi firearms are just props made from machined aluminium. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 01:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Hey MPM ==
Anyone ever tell you that you have a lot of pictures? haha. - [[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:BTW the HKP7M13 picture, the factory nick and the blued, are they the same gun? I'm just wondering, same serial no., and if they are, how'd you accomplish that?-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

==Desert Eagle==

Agreed, moved back. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

==Navy SEALs==
Hey MPM, would it be okay if I uploaded a few screencaps for [[Navy SEALs]]? When I say a few, I mean a FEW. I just wanted to add some guns you missed.

* Terrorists fire a DShK (or M2 mock up) at a helicopter during the film's start

* FN FAL seen in soldier's hands in news footage.

* Sheen uses a Browning Hi-Power to shoot a terrorist when he finds the conversation "boring".

* Stinger missile launcher, which is kind of pivotal to the whole story.

* One of the SEALs is seen holding a 92FS in one scene (during the night raid), it had a squared trigger guard.

I promise I won't fill up the page with huge amounts of screencaps, in fact I think each gun should only hail one or two caps each, total. I don't think I'll need to add any extra caps to the existing guns either, unless I come across something really, REALLY good. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::After screencapping it, I noticed all types of AK variants are seen, not just AK-47s and AKMS's. The Hi-Power was a CZ-75. The new footage had an FN FAL, and M16A1 with jungle taped magazines, and a DShK. The gun at the beggining is the same type of mocked up M2HB from Rambo III, except it is a dual mount. And a terrorist APC is seen fitted with dual M1919 .30 calibers. There are some other guns too but that was just some of the stuff I caught. I took a few more extra screencaps for the existing guns than I thought I would, so I'll put those in the discussion and let you okay them. Sound good? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Shit. Damn my impatience! Well I only added some extras to the existing guns on the page and filled out the AKs in better detail. I'll leave everything else to you, and hey, if you miss anything once your done I still have all my screencaps saved and ready to use. Sorry to tread on your toes. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::BTW, I fixed up the page format a bit (it wasn't quite IMFDB standard). I was wondering, what is this gun Ramos is holding?:
[[Image:NS-FNFNCPara-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ramos with (???). My best guess is an FN FNC Para or someting around that series of firearms.]]
::::I figured you'd know best. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

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== Brazillian Militia? ==

They better make the main character waste the militia alongside the Brazilian Army or the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOPE/ BOPE] or i am not buying it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

==Guns from the new teaser==
This SMG looks like a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Special Weapons MP-10 and SP-10|Heckler & Koch MP-10]].
[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Special Weapons MP-10 and SP-10|Heckler & Koch MP-10]]]]
[[Image:MW2teastrail1.png|thumb|none|400px|I thought it was a MP5K but if we look closer, it doesn't seem to be one.]]
:It could be a K with the forward grip removed? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

looks like an MP5 with a tactical end-cap, kinda like the end cap on the MP5K. no idea why there's a 15 round magazine though
[[Image:MW2teastrail2.png|thumb|none|400px|And this one looks like a UMP but the the silhouette isn't exactly the same (maybe the model of the game was not loaded enough).]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:It definitely resembles a UMP, it probably has rails on the handguard, as well as the front sight removed, as they did in the last game ~[[user:Revolver|Revolver]]

The one in the first picture is I think a Special Weapons MP-10. Check it out at the bottom of the mp5 page.
::The forearm doesn't look as large as the MP-10 though... everything else looks like a MP-10 indeed.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
The two guns look similar minus the stock and clip. I could be wrong but I'm sure that if it isn't a special weapons mp-10 then it is an UMP.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
:Magazine goddamit![[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
What's wrong with saying clip? It means the same thing.
:.. Uh, no. It's not. A 'clip' is the device that loads a magazine. You either use it to load your detachable magazines, or you carry the clips to load the fixed magazine in your rifle (on old rifles). You don't carry 'clips' around any more. They're two different things. It's like saying rim and tyre mean the same thing. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] 12:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard that before. I can see where clip comes from stripper clip that they used in rifles. Everyone around me says clip and mag is interchangeable but people use mag more often. If it really bothers you that much then I'll just say mag then.
[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Special Weapons MP-10 9x19mm]]
The second one looks like an UMP. I'm pretty sure we're dealing with two guns here.
::Yeah but there is no rear sight on the one in the screenshot, and it's disturbing me... maybe they took it away because of the Red Dot on it.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually if you look closely that kinda square shape towards the back of the gun is the iron sight so it's pretty much an UMP with what looks like an ACOG. If you're talking about the front sight for the UMP which does appear to be missing, remember that they removed the front sights from the M4/M16 when you attach a sight even though that's not standard.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch UMP .45 ACP]]
[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

I've got a clearer shot of the weapon thanks to a friend :)
[[Image:MW2MP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 17:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

==what AK is this?==
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=2&newsid=20387
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=4&newsid=20387
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=5&newsid=20387

In the first image I can see that it has a waffle magazine. In the second image I can see that a muzzle brake is present, and in the last image I can see what appears to be a Tapco Intrafuse AK-47 Handguard. So what is it? Oh and it appears to have a synthetic stock. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.253.21|72.133.253.21]] 21:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== Guns from the trailer ==
[[Image:MW2brazil.png|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL or Imbel MD-3 (brazilian variant of the FAL)?]]
I hope it's an FAL. You barely ever see them in video games-S&Wshooter
:Me too. I love fals. And the gun above looks like a IMBEL MD2. Heres the wikipedia article: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMBEL_MD2]. Note how it has a STANAG Magazine like the MD2.I also love how ridiculous looking the Brazilian gang members are.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::rather MD-3 isn't it? Since it hasn't a foldable stock.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 18:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah without the folding stock it is a MD3.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::::However, the gun's long barrel looks more like a FAL... ahh sh*t! This fuc*ing game is driving me mad, every guns don't look exactly the same as their originals^^--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:I think there are Imbel MD2s or MD3s with the regular barrel.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, there are no Imbel MD3s with regular barrels. It's most likely a design error by the developters.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
(comment: It better be a FAL. I'm getting tired of M4's, M16's, AK's and G36's. I want to be able to use a gun ingame that in't too small for me in real life.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]])
:I agree. the game better have G3s and IMI galils. I also love the fact that is a Brazilian made Fal. You don't see those in movies.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:I also want a MG3 or some kind of big, dumb machine gun chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO. Machine guns chambered to 7.62 tear shit up.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
: Hell yeah man! Thats exactly what I'm saying. I would also like to see some more bolt action jobs that aren't crappy( DSR-1, Enfield Enforcer, Steyr SSG) in video games- [[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::''This would probably be the IMBEL MD-2 (folding stock) or MD-3 (fixed stock) which is manufactured locally in Brazil. The weapons are based, pretty much, on the FAL with the exception that they fire a 5.56 round'' [[User:Charon68|Charon68]]
:::And are fed from STANAG Magazines and have different handguards.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:I'm tired of .223 guns. I would like to see a FAL, M14 or G3 that isn't emasculated (made innacurate, weak or make ammo for it scarce)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]]
::I want a M14 that is not tricked out with rails like the one in Call of Duty 4. I want a M14 like the one below:
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A real M14.]]
I do like the Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR rifle though. I also want A M16A4 that doesn't fire on Full Auto and a AK-74. AK-74s don't get enough love.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::CoD 7 will be about Vietnam War according to rumours, maybe they'll put in one.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 19:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::And smaller conflicts in africa. I hope they also put atleast one level that takes place in the portuguese colonial war.
[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Now i think the FAL above may be a FN FAL with rails on the handguards and a 30 round magazine but i think it's too curved and big to be 7.62x51mm NATO.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:06, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:MW2smg.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2Brazilpistol2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2Brazilpistol.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 16:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

*A Kriss Super V?
Cool. The pistol is a Desert Eagle, by the way.-protoAuthor
:I think the pistol is a Jericho 941 since it's too small to be a desert eagle.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::No, it's an Eagle. Check out the ejection port.
:::''I concur. It's not terribly visible, but there's that familiar slide mounted safety in both shots. It appears to be a totally game-created custom finish though - the barrel and the underlying section of the frame (where the gas pistons are housed) look to be blued and the grips and the rest of the frame looks silver. On a couple of related notes, wow at the graphics - I took these for pictures of the developers testing out their guns at first - and wow at the handling of the Desert Eagle by this guy. Usually in these games, you see handguns being handled only somewhat compentently at best. This guy looks like he sleeps with the damn thing.'' ---[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Also, take note of the sound it makes when it fires. Exact same sound as the Desert Eagle in CoD4.

== The machine gun ==
I think the machine gun that the russian terrorists are using is a M240.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think it's a M249 SAW, the M240 (GP Machine gun) is bigger.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 18:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Could it possibly be a Mk. 46?
:Makes sense since most of the guns are special forces guns.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
==New AK==
[[Image:AKMW2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
I think its just an amped up AK-47. It has an AR-15 stock, waffle magazine, and has a synthetic handguard.
Found a similar image:
[[Image:Ak-47-weapon-accessories-desert-colourb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[User:Rock and Metal|Rock and Metal]] 22:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Good god, look what they did to that AK! That's just horrible. I hope the AK in the game isn't like that.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::I watched the trailer again. I am sure that i saw a AK with a AK-74 style flash hider.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe a AK-101 since NATO forces use 5.56mm.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think it could be a AK-74M or just a AK-74 since the russian army might make a apparence and they need to arm the russian soldiers.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I said "NATO forces"--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 22:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC) because the one having it in the screenshot is Soap... well, maybe or surely, he captured because he had a M14 at the beginning.
::Well...the game's plot is a about a Uber badass special forces unit that works alone and is headed by our buddy Soap up there. So, i guess the badass special forces unit is not part of NATO.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Neither AK-101 or AK-74, the magazine in the image holds 7.62x39mm. [[User:Rock and Metal|Rock and Metal]] 00:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Maybe theres the tricked out AK up there and the AK-74 style AK.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, seems like we won't know until we'll have a level walkthrough with the name of the weapon in it...--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 15:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::I saw the Gameplay videos and i saw two different AKs. One with a AKM style muzzle brake and another one with a AK-74 style flash hider. Maybe we can build guns from the ground up? like, you can have a AK-47 with a kobra sight, snow camo, fires 7.62x39mm and has a AK-74 flash hider?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
*It's gotta be an AKM.
::Why the fuck it would be an AKM? It looks like an AK-74M or one of the AK-100 series.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Well it has ribbing on the top of the reciever, like the AKM, but the indentation I cannot clearly see. It could be like in Farcry 2, where it has the Ak-47 receiver with some AKM parts, and I used AKM because the 100 series are developments on the AKM, understand? So AK-47 is incorrect.
::::But the AK-10X series were developments on the AK-74M. Also, sign you posts.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well technically the modernizations start with the AKM, I see it as the break off point of the AK series. Ak-74 was designed from the AKM, and so on and so on, but that doesn't matter, yeah it could be the 100 series, but my point is its not an AK-47. Also lacks the flash hiders of the 74 and 100s. But I think it's a frankenAK-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== Unrealeted ==
Ok, i know this has nothing to do with the game or releted to guns but, i was reading the Modern Warfare 2 thread on the Something Awful forums and they were calling the Brazilian gangters africans. What the fuck? and they seen to think the scenes in Rio De Janeiro are set in Africa. What the motherfuck? it offends me that people are dumb enough to ignore the line "he's got a contact in rio" and Christ the Redeemer and the huge mountains with favelas full of illiterate drug dealers and the Brazilian made Imbel MD-3.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:What do you expect? It's Something Awful!

To be fair all the favela gangsters that are seen so far are Afro-Brazilians, even if there are plenty of gang members of all races in real life. With so many games having levels in destroyed urban areas in Africa it's not surprising that some people would get a Black Hawk Down style vibe from the pictures.

Personally I hate something Awful as they break their own rules on posting. One member has a post on there with my first and last names and it's a bloody poison pen hitpeice. I asked the frigging syop to remove the shit and he laughed at me. Personally I find the site the home of a bunch of elitist idiots who have at least one member dumb enough to set the fuel line for a weilding torch on fire.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 19:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, i like something awful but you have to be really dumb not to see the Christ the redeemer.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Hopes For New Game==

Want a little realism and some weapons like standard battle rifles not all trick out with rails. Hoping russians have ak-74s and makarovs or that new 9x19 pistol they developed, not ak47s. Militias and gangs should have a mix of guns, not all berettas and 1911s. A makarov, cz-75, hk or two, glock, model 19 smiths.....just variety.

What the fick is an "akarov"? Lol-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Makarov, a 9x18mm pistol that has been issued in several variants to the russian military. Come on, seriously, sticky keys some things are mspelled.

I knew that. I was just kidding-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the brazilians should use taurus and stoeger guns too, that would be realistic. And the militia should have some sxs coach guns and taurus revolvers, you know, the non tatcticla stuff. And psitols should be portrayed as hard to shoot, not coming back exactly on target after each round and it should wobble a bit while aiming.
:The Brazilian gangsters are using tricked out guns with rails. At least the IMBEL MD-3 up there has a Eotech reflex sight and what looks like rails on the handguards but they could be the regular MD-3 hand guard. We know the AKs are going to be tricked out as fuck like the image above but i think i saw a AK-74 that was not tricked out. I hope they have a AK-74.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1200==

We all know the 1200 is old and not used since vietnam. The 1300 is used. Would it be safe to say these are mis-named winchester 1300s? Or is it more video game nonsense?
:The 1200 in this game is the same 1200 from Modern Warfare 1 so it's safe to say that the Winchester is a 1200 even though is pretty retarded to militarys still be using the 1200 today.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt the 1200 was ever made in this configuration.
:Me too but it is a video game and video game developters are pretty retarded when it comes to guns. Still, this and COD4 have the best Gun porn in video game history atleast by now.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Alright ==
Alright you son-of-a-bitches there's a gameplay video in gametrailers. It's pretty low quality but some new guns were seen, including the gun with the heartbeat sensor and some others. Now, i don't know how to screencap trailers so someone else will have to do it.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Here they come:
[[Image:MW2AR1.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2AR2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
YOU FOOL! It's "sons-of-bitches". That's a pretty awesome-looking cap, though.-protoAuthor
:Thanks for the correction. I am sure Soap and Roach we using AKs with AK-74 flash hiders. Anyone have any idea what kind of AKs were those?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::Oliveira, do you think you could post a link of the trailer for me, please? Thanks so much. --[[User:Blemo|Blemo]] 04:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Which trailer?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

== gameplay demo ==

did anyone see the new gameplay demo for Modern Warfare 2
it showed "Roach"(main protagonist) with a IMBEL MD-3 with a dot sight and a...radar
im not good with gun attachments but is there really a radar attatchment?
:It's a heartbeat sensor and the gun wasn't a MD-3. it looked like a fictional gun of some sort.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::some says it's a SCAR--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Makes sense since the charging handle is on the right side. But i think the SCAR charging handle is on the left side.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
-It looks like a Sig 556 variant to me - Mythekal

Yeah looks like the sig556 itself thogh, not the military versions? Also, would it be safe to say the glock is a glock 18, no idea how anyone would mistake a full auto as a g22/.

It could just be a fully automatic Glock 22. Gun rules dont necessarily matter to video games - Mythekal
:Mythekal is right. Hell, Modern Warfare 1 had a M16A4 that fired on full auto.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

All that matters is the real weapon that the in-game version is modeled from. Call of Duty 4 had an Aks-74u modeled from an Airsoft gun - Mythekal

I'm starting to think that this rifle could be a Bushmaster ACR, as it shares similar traits, except for the placement of the charging handle - Mythekal

:My thoughts too. The charging handle is consistent to the ACR, but the SCAR has the same kind of charging handle. We can't see the stock and both could accept a thermold mag. So it could be either. I really doubt they make up an entire fiction rifle for the sake of it. Modern Warfare was always all about guns that are real. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

::Though the weird part is, the ACR has a slide release right next to the trigger, similiar to the XM8. You reload and just press forward with your trigger finger, no need to slap or pull the charging handle. The SCAR has the slide release like the AR-15 rifles, you can just slap it to release, but yet in the gameplay, you don't slap a slide release or push a slide release, you pull the charging handle back. Strange [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It could be a Magpul Masada. It is very similar to the weapon in the videos, and has a charging handle on the right side of the receiver. In the video, the stock has a hinge, indicating a folding stock, which looks almost identical to the Masada. - Mythekal

The rifle also has ambidexterous charging handles - Mythekal

:That sumbitch is most certainly a Masada.

new gameplay vid says it's a silenced ACR with heartbeat sensor.

I think it is a Magpul Masada [[User:Choi117|Choi117]]
:I watched the Gameplay and i'm sure that the gun is a ACR.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

ACR is the masada. Same gun, switched manufacturer.
:Sorry, i didn't know that.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

But the stock is that of the Masada - Mythekal

::ACR man, I know the Masada sounds cooler, but it isn't call that anymore. It's like people still calling the REC 7 a Barret M468 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or any of the M16 series of weapons a AR-15.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well if it's called AR15, you would be referring to the civilian M16 rifles. M16 is a military weapon and an AR-15 isn't. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the pistol is a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18C]]
:Most likely since it was firing on Full auto.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::It was pointed out that the firing rate wasn't the same speed as a real [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]], but it could be that the developers couldn't quite get the slide and sound speed for a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]]. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or it could be a [[Glock]] firing on semi-automatic. [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::::That little fucker fires fast if its semi auto (pardon my language)
:::::Who ever put the screenshot on the page forgot to remind that the frame color is (tan) "Olive Drab". [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18's]] did not have this color available. [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22's]] just came out with this color somewhere in 2008. Of course I still wouldn't rule out it could be a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] with a replaced frame. But the writers probably wanted to put a new FBI (.40S&W) caliber into their Video Game arsenal.

==Weapons-trailers==

Been seeing trailers online annoncing weapons and perks. How much cred do they have? Theres no footage to back it up, bt several announced weapons are in the screenshots. They also list the 110 SASR, L85, L85 mg version, etc.
:Weapon trailers? Where the hell can i find those? They could be really useful for the article.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Youtube, theres a "weapons" one that just lists guns, and a weapons and perks thing, the perks it actually ahs proof from the original teaser.

:I wouldn't trust any of those youtube bull. One said there might be an XM8 in the game. I hope it does not. That's one more step towards having all the guns Rainbow Six have. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::Those videos are pure speculation. I'm sure those are all bullshit. We will only document weapons that are confirmed by the developters and seen in gameplay.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Hbar? ==
I don't want to offend anyone but, what the motherfuck is a Hbar?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Its the Heavy barreled variant of the Aug meant to be a squad based machine gun - Mythekal

:Hbar could also be refering to anything really. Heavy barrel anything. I've seen plenty of AR-15 variants in movies with Hbars. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::[http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211390/?hd=1&tag=live-schedule] Sometime when the player passes over ennemies' corpses, he can take their weapons. One of them (the other is often a FA-MAS) is a AUG. There is four letter after it, a H at the beginning and I don't see well the other 3. But there is only one variant of the AUG with a "H" in its name, and that's the HBar.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Could someone upload a image of the icon in the above video? The link isn't working for me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I just watched the E3 gameplay again. The AUG HBAR pick up symbol looks amazingly like the SA80 British service rifle. Might be a place holder or something.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

:I made a note of it in the actual page. It DOES look like an SA80 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::My money's on a mislabel. We know the standard AUG is confirmed (all those screenshots) so why not the HBAR too?--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

::If you pause it right before you kill the guy who carried it it's an AUG. So therefore its a mislabel. (I wish I can upload the screenshot but dun know how.)
:::Sign you posts for christ's sake.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
== Correct Name ==
I think we should call this game Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 instead of just [[Modern Warfare 2]] because we have a entire alphabetized series of Call Of Duty in the Video Games Category and just putting this in the "M" section does not look we even have this page. If somebody knows how to put this in the "C" section with out changing the name that will be organized.

:Well that's the problem. Originally it WAS called Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and some still do, but officially, the publishers decided to shorten the title for some reason. We COULD for alphabetize sake, put Call of Duty in front so it fits with the others. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:And I've successfully changed the name [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

::Wait, I thought the reason that this was called Modern Warfare 2 was because Infinity Ward no longer wanted to make any more WWII related games and as such gave the "Call of Duty" moniker to Treyarch. Modern Warfare is supposedly now a separate series from Call of Duty. [[User:Markit|Markit]]
:Modern Warfare is its own series now and isn't a CoD game anymore.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::Or we could make a new "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" page which bring it here.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::[[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, this game is still being published by Activision that published the previous game. It is STILL apart of the Call of Duty franchise, they just chose to officially call this game just Modern Warefare 2. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Keep it modern warfare 2, but link them together, like GM did linking all the dirty harry movies together.

== Taskforce 141 = Rainbow Six ==

A multinational commando unit? The moment I read that, I immediately thought Rainbow and well we really can't complain what kinds of weapons these guys uses since they are a fictional unit like Rainbow so they can use whatever they want. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:I was expecting the task forece to be from the UN. That would be cool.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::But if they say they are are UN taskforce makes the team sound kinda...pointless Like the UN does anything. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I though Rainbow Six was a UN Task Force? Anyway, a movie or televison series about a UN Uber badass task force that were formed to catch international criminals would be really cool. The problem with the UN is that they try to be neutral and being neutral doesn't do anything. The UN should be reformed to be more of a International police that works against international criminals and make international laws.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I like the UN the way it is. What you're talking about sounds like the first step to a totalitarian society.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
:What i'm talking about is stuff like Resolution 84. I also like the UN the way it is but, they fail at quick responses to genocide such as the Rwandan Genocide in 1994.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
In general they fail at mostly any response. They just don't have the power to back up their enforcement of peace. Any peace keeping force with too much power can be oppressive. Who will keep the peace keepers in check when they're suppose to keep us in check? Quite the dilemma. I just don't think the idea of the U.N. or anything similar can work.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

:The United States shall keep the UN in check, without US, there is no UN. They need us more than we need them. It might seem like typical arrogant American mentality, but from how things are, the US has more indirect influence and handle over the entire world. We are the world's insurance policy, the self proclaimed enforcer, guardian, peacekeeping super power despite all our internal problems with crime, money and other things, but because of our population and how relatively young our nation is, the intense diversity in culture and believes keeps us in check. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
::The Problem is when someone like Bush Jr. comes up and fucks everything up. Could you imagine having someone like him being President of The United States during the Cold War? Anyway, The UN did have a really good quick response to the North Korean invasion of South Korea. We almost had North Korea. If weren't for the goddamm chinese.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
: Yeah if it weren't for them all this Kim Jong Il shit wouldn't be happening and we wouldn't be about to go to war in Korea-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hey Smith, if someone is at fault for not winning the Korean War and not having only one Korea, is Mao. Truman also kinda fucked up by telling the 7th Fleet to enter the Taiwan Straits.

== More weapons comfirmed ==

It seems that p90 is making a return and spas 12 will also be ingame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFKBEQoSpu8
:That guy got a lot of the guns wrong and that AUG Hbar looked more like a SA80 to me. And what the hell is up the people thinking that the FAL in the trailer is a AK? It looks nothing like it!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

:Well, most people are unaware of all the different kinds of firearms. I'm surprise this guy in the vid ID as much as there was. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== CPT. Price ==
I hope we get to find out if CPT. Price from CoD4 survived or not. That's been bugging me... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:I think it would cheapen the ending of Modern Warfare 1 if he survived.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

How would that cheapen the ending of the first game? It was never clear if any of the team's survived. What about the Mile High Club mission where you hear Price and Gaz talk? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:Gaz got shot in the face with a Desert Eagle, he's dead.-protoAuthor

Captain Price leads the Task Force in this game!

No, Soap leads the Task Force

Soap does sound kind of similar to Cpt. Price. I guess Price rubbed off on him a little or something.

*Price managed to last for sixty years without ageing, dying or trimming his moustache, so I can't see a little thing like being shot dead getting to him. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 10:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well...I would like if he came back right at the end and save Soap and Roach. But, he better have a even glourious moustache.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, recalling CoD1 a little more, Price has ''already'' died once in the series. He was shot dead on board the ''Tirpitz'' and you just left him there, only for him to turn up again in CoD2 apparently none the worse for it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Didn't COD2 take place before COD1?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Can't remember, to be honest, I didn't play it that much; I was busy being an Annoyed PC Gamer because they took away my quicksaves, fire modes and health packs and replaced them with Not Being Killed Grenades [throw one to not be killed by that machinegun!]. Still, this is his second death in the series, so I wouldn't expect it to cramp his style much. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 12:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:Gaz and Griggs got wasted though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The Cpt. Price in CoD 1 and 2 is a diffrent Price, most probably grandfather. And it is unsure if Price died or if he got promoted and got a higher position...

*Oh come on, it's either a clone or the same guy, they just came up with that when people started seriously questioning an extremely silly off-hand reference. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't talk about something you don't know sh¤t about... [http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Price_(Call_of_Duty_4)] the two Cpt. Price are two diffrent guys

*Two different, totally identical guys. It's an elaborate cover story to hide that Price is invincible and immortal. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 11:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:Captain Price is a symbol representing the glourious British Military. Ok, he is just a tradition for the Guys at Infinity Ward but it would be really cool if he was a symbol.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
==General Observations==
Though I freely admit I got wood watching this trailer one thing I noticed is that the guys from ''Infinity Ward'' seemed to have recycled some scenery. When they showed the guys running through the alleyways of Rio I swear it reminded me of the alleyways of the Arab capital the Marines run through in [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]].

:Not really. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== The New pictures ==
Could someone tell me where did that picture of the american soldier with the M4 came from?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:http://www.modernwarfare247.com/news/special-ops-characters --[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 17:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Jesus Christ, is the weapons section of that website all kinds of fucked up. Thet called an FN-FAL a G3 and they called an AK-74 a AK-47. What the motherfuck? At least that means that we, IMFDB members, have the best website documenting weapons in Modern Warfare 2. But still, what the motherfuck?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
== TAR-21 or F2000? ==
[[Image:MW2TR6.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|A Brazilian Militia firing the unknown rifle, presumably a[[FN F2000#FN F2000 Tactical|FN F2000 Tactical]]]]
Isn't it a TAR-21 rather than a F2000?--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's way too big to be a Tavor. Most likely an F2000.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah... the form is rather an F2000 too...--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:My question is where the fuck is the scope?-[[Special:Contributions/76.31.5.208|76.31.5.208]] 15:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)
::There is an version of the FN2000 that has the scope replaced with rails. I guess that's the one in the picture above.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Whats that under the F2000? Its too skinny to be an M203, I think its a shotugn--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 03:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Looks like an Remington 870.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
How the hell would they fit a shotgun/Masterkey on the three inches of forward rails that the F2000 has? More like a shotgun with an F2000 attachment, rather than the other way around.--[[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 18:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well it definetly looks to be a shotgun, however it's mounted on there.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== MP7? Are you sure? ==

Where do you exactly see MP7?

I only see custom MP5 (or MP5k without foregrip) on the right and two copies of another unidentified weapons on the left.
They have curved magazines where MP7 has foregrip and their casing is completly different.
MP7 doesn't match...
[[User:Morihaus|Morihaus]] 17:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Morihaus

== FAL Please ==

I know one of the screenshots show's what appears to be an MD-2, but I still wanan see a FAL in MW2. I'm getting annoyed by G36Cs and M16s and G3KA4s in all these games. The FAL was a true combat rifle, and I do has want (sorry for net speak)--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 20:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: I absolutely agree with the above statement-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Me too but, the MD-2 is good enough for me. And it is Brazilian! That makes me proud of being Brazilian.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: I like the Imbel also, its a pretty solid gun-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Which Imbel? Imbel is the manufacturer.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Their FAL copy with the fixed stock (it's the only one I've held)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Those are just called FN FALs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The Imbel is great and all, but the FAL is a solid 7.62 rifle. Also, I noticed they're using the AUG A1, not A3 for MW2. I'm pleased with that as the original AUG model was always my favorite.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 22:08, 26 June
2009 (UTC)

== XM8!!!!!! ==

Dear god no, someone is saying an XM8 is in this game?! Is there no GOD!? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:I don't even know where those non-confirmed guns came from. Did they come from those youtube videos about the game's weapons?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
: There better not be an XM8.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 15:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::The XM8 is a piece of fucking shit so it better not be in this game.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I have to agree. The XM8 is overused in games as it is, and it sucks shit. It couldn't even stand up to the M4A1 or M16A4 in US Army testing for christ's sakes!--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::At least it was better than those fucking Air Burst rifles. I can't fucking believe most NATO countries though that would work. Just look at those things! They look like something outta a fucking Anime!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the air burst idea was a massive fail. and remember the OICW program? A multishot grenade launcher and IR scope attached to a rifle, and they wanted a single soldier to carry all that?--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 17:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::At least the XM25 is working.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Guys, chill out, will ya? If you want some enlightenment, the XM8 competed in a "dust test" with the M4A1, HK416, and the SCAR-L, and scored lowest number of stoppages [http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/12/army_carbine_dusttest_071217/]. Here's the score:

XM8: 127 Stoppages
M4: 882 Stoppages
HK416: 233 Stoppages
SCAR-L: 226 Stoppages

The M4 was outperformed by the HK416, SCAR, and XM8, but the army is still standing by the M4A1. Read the article that I've linked to to learn more. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:The M4 is still superior since stoppages don't mean anything.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

:: Actually: It does. The US Army and you can say what you want, 80% of the soldiers do have confidence in the weapon, but the M4A1 still has some problems that the remaining 20% complain about.

1. The handguards can rattle and can become very hot when fired.

2. There can be difficulty zeroing the M68 reflex sight.

3. The rifle has had double-feeding issues, jamming, and feeding problems with the magazine.

55% of Soldiers have also complained that the weapon is too heavy, and want it to be made lighter, and 20% want a bigger magazine. Have you even fired one? Because your statement seems a fit unfounded if you have nothing to support your claim.-[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:No i never fired one because here in Brazil, weapons for civilian use were banned in the entire country. However, i did read Wikipedia's entire article on the M16 and its varients and the M4. And the M4 even when it's loaded, weights a mere 3.1 kilograms.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
*Out of all the weapons tested, I much prefer the SCAR, and so do US Special Forces as they're adopting it already--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 03:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
: Lets hope that the military will ditch the M4/M16 for a Battle Rifle like the SCAR-H or an FAL derivative (Maybe the shorty DSA model) so the troops can use a more effective bullet, cuz that 5.56 BS isn't cutting it-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think they could just rechamber most of the M4s and M16s to 6.8 mm Remington SPC. I don't know if that would be a easy thing to do though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Well Barrett did build the M468/ Rec-7 for the military, but they rejected it. Why not just buy some Rec-7s? But really, I've always thought the 7.62 NATO round was a much better bullet. And a the DSA stubby wouldn't be a bad carbine to use either.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:7.62 rounds give way too much recoil. I still say the 5.56 NATO and 6.8 SPC is still better than 7.62 NATO. You know what? The M4 and M16s don't need to be replaced. There, i said it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
== TDI "Kriss" ==
I know the Kriss is going to be hyped in MW2, as its a powerful .45 ACP SMG that has virtually no recoil and great accuracy. But the guys at IW won't let such a perfect gun into multiplayer, because it'll turn into a noob weapon fast. My bet's on that they purposely change one of it's stats to make it more balanced. Any guesses on what they'll take away from it? My bet is make it less powerful.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:There IS recoil in the Kriss. Every gun has recoil.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::True, but it varies what the recoil force actually ''does'' and how much of it the user feels; the recoil has to go somewhere, but it can be towards things like fighting the gun's own muzzle climb by shoving a weight downwards [as with the Kriss], stopping a barrel that's moving forwards [as with the XM307 / XM312], or quite a number of other things. The general idea is that the Kriss has very light felt recoil for its weight [less than half the weight of a Thompson] because of the novel operating system. And I imagine they'll either limit the magazine, turn it into a peashooter or make it horribly inaccurate. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 02:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or Infinity Ward could make the Kriss a Kicking Rad gun that you will get when you reach the highest level. An all around gun.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::::What about the Rate of Fire? i don't remember if the Kriss had a high R.O.F. or not
:::::From the Future Weapons video I watched on the Kriss, it seems to have an average MP5 like rate of fire. But if IW does let the Kriss go all out, it'll be revenge of the pwned when people get a hold of it. Take that noob tubers! Have some .45 slugs in the face!--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hey man, the noob tube is awesome.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== HK416? ==

Possible HK416-

The SAS guy with the Mohawk & Glock @ 0:30 of the reveal trailer seems to carry something resembling an HK416 (Notice the rear H&K hallmark diopter sights...).
--[[User:Wikinerd|Wikinerd]] 15:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==FN P90==
Why haven't anyone added the P90? It has been confirmed and in the E3 trailer there was a pickup icon for the P90 and it said "Press # to ick up P90"
:Did you miss [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Modern_Warfare_2#FN_P90TR this?]-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

2009-07-02T22:44:19Z

RedJedRevolver: /* New AK */

== Brazillian Militia? ==

They better make the main character waste the militia alongside the Brazilian Army or the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOPE/ BOPE] or i am not buying it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

==Guns from the new teaser==
This SMG looks like a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Special Weapons MP-10 and SP-10|Heckler & Koch MP-10]].
[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Special Weapons MP-10 and SP-10|Heckler & Koch MP-10]]]]
[[Image:MW2teastrail1.png|thumb|none|400px|I thought it was a MP5K but if we look closer, it doesn't seem to be one.]]
:It could be a K with the forward grip removed? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

looks like an MP5 with a tactical end-cap, kinda like the end cap on the MP5K. no idea why there's a 15 round magazine though
[[Image:MW2teastrail2.png|thumb|none|400px|And this one looks like a UMP but the the silhouette isn't exactly the same (maybe the model of the game was not loaded enough).]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:It definitely resembles a UMP, it probably has rails on the handguard, as well as the front sight removed, as they did in the last game ~[[user:Revolver|Revolver]]

The one in the first picture is I think a Special Weapons MP-10. Check it out at the bottom of the mp5 page.
::The forearm doesn't look as large as the MP-10 though... everything else looks like a MP-10 indeed.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
The two guns look similar minus the stock and clip. I could be wrong but I'm sure that if it isn't a special weapons mp-10 then it is an UMP.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
:Magazine goddamit![[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
What's wrong with saying clip? It means the same thing.
:.. Uh, no. It's not. A 'clip' is the device that loads a magazine. You either use it to load your detachable magazines, or you carry the clips to load the fixed magazine in your rifle (on old rifles). You don't carry 'clips' around any more. They're two different things. It's like saying rim and tyre mean the same thing. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] 12:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard that before. I can see where clip comes from stripper clip that they used in rifles. Everyone around me says clip and mag is interchangeable but people use mag more often. If it really bothers you that much then I'll just say mag then.
[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Special Weapons MP-10 9x19mm]]
The second one looks like an UMP. I'm pretty sure we're dealing with two guns here.
::Yeah but there is no rear sight on the one in the screenshot, and it's disturbing me... maybe they took it away because of the Red Dot on it.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually if you look closely that kinda square shape towards the back of the gun is the iron sight so it's pretty much an UMP with what looks like an ACOG. If you're talking about the front sight for the UMP which does appear to be missing, remember that they removed the front sights from the M4/M16 when you attach a sight even though that's not standard.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch UMP .45 ACP]]
[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

I've got a clearer shot of the weapon thanks to a friend :)
[[Image:MW2MP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 17:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

==what AK is this?==
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=2&newsid=20387
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=4&newsid=20387
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=5&newsid=20387

In the first image I can see that it has a waffle magazine. In the second image I can see that a muzzle brake is present, and in the last image I can see what appears to be a Tapco Intrafuse AK-47 Handguard. So what is it? Oh and it appears to have a synthetic stock. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.253.21|72.133.253.21]] 21:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== Guns from the trailer ==
[[Image:MW2brazil.png|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL or Imbel MD-3 (brazilian variant of the FAL)?]]
I hope it's an FAL. You barely ever see them in video games-S&Wshooter
:Me too. I love fals. And the gun above looks like a IMBEL MD2. Heres the wikipedia article: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMBEL_MD2]. Note how it has a STANAG Magazine like the MD2.I also love how ridiculous looking the Brazilian gang members are.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::rather MD-3 isn't it? Since it hasn't a foldable stock.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 18:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah without the folding stock it is a MD3.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::::However, the gun's long barrel looks more like a FAL... ahh sh*t! This fuc*ing game is driving me mad, every guns don't look exactly the same as their originals^^--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:I think there are Imbel MD2s or MD3s with the regular barrel.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, there are no Imbel MD3s with regular barrels. It's most likely a design error by the developters.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
(comment: It better be a FAL. I'm getting tired of M4's, M16's, AK's and G36's. I want to be able to use a gun ingame that in't too small for me in real life.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]])
:I agree. the game better have G3s and IMI galils. I also love the fact that is a Brazilian made Fal. You don't see those in movies.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:I also want a MG3 or some kind of big, dumb machine gun chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO. Machine guns chambered to 7.62 tear shit up.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
: Hell yeah man! Thats exactly what I'm saying. I would also like to see some more bolt action jobs that aren't crappy( DSR-1, Enfield Enforcer, Steyr SSG) in video games- [[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::''This would probably be the IMBEL MD-2 (folding stock) or MD-3 (fixed stock) which is manufactured locally in Brazil. The weapons are based, pretty much, on the FAL with the exception that they fire a 5.56 round'' [[User:Charon68|Charon68]]
:::And are fed from STANAG Magazines and have different handguards.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:I'm tired of .223 guns. I would like to see a FAL, M14 or G3 that isn't emasculated (made innacurate, weak or make ammo for it scarce)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]]
::I want a M14 that is not tricked out with rails like the one in Call of Duty 4. I want a M14 like the one below:
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A real M14.]]
I do like the Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR rifle though. I also want A M16A4 that doesn't fire on Full Auto and a AK-74. AK-74s don't get enough love.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::CoD 7 will be about Vietnam War according to rumours, maybe they'll put in one.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 19:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::And smaller conflicts in africa. I hope they also put atleast one level that takes place in the portuguese colonial war.
[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Now i think the FAL above may be a FN FAL with rails on the handguards and a 30 round magazine but i think it's too curved and big to be 7.62x51mm NATO.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:06, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:MW2smg.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2Brazilpistol2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2Brazilpistol.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 16:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

*A Kriss Super V?
Cool. The pistol is a Desert Eagle, by the way.-protoAuthor
:I think the pistol is a Jericho 941 since it's too small to be a desert eagle.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::No, it's an Eagle. Check out the ejection port.
:::''I concur. It's not terribly visible, but there's that familiar slide mounted safety in both shots. It appears to be a totally game-created custom finish though - the barrel and the underlying section of the frame (where the gas pistons are housed) look to be blued and the grips and the rest of the frame looks silver. On a couple of related notes, wow at the graphics - I took these for pictures of the developers testing out their guns at first - and wow at the handling of the Desert Eagle by this guy. Usually in these games, you see handguns being handled only somewhat compentently at best. This guy looks like he sleeps with the damn thing.'' ---[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Also, take note of the sound it makes when it fires. Exact same sound as the Desert Eagle in CoD4.

== The machine gun ==
I think the machine gun that the russian terrorists are using is a M240.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think it's a M249 SAW, the M240 (GP Machine gun) is bigger.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 18:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Could it possibly be a Mk. 46?
:Makes sense since most of the guns are special forces guns.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
==New AK==
[[Image:AKMW2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
I think its just an amped up AK-47. It has an AR-15 stock, waffle magazine, and has a synthetic handguard.
Found a similar image:
[[Image:Ak-47-weapon-accessories-desert-colourb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[User:Rock and Metal|Rock and Metal]] 22:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Good god, look what they did to that AK! That's just horrible. I hope the AK in the game isn't like that.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::I watched the trailer again. I am sure that i saw a AK with a AK-74 style flash hider.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe a AK-101 since NATO forces use 5.56mm.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think it could be a AK-74M or just a AK-74 since the russian army might make a apparence and they need to arm the russian soldiers.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I said "NATO forces"--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 22:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC) because the one having it in the screenshot is Soap... well, maybe or surely, he captured because he had a M14 at the beginning.
::Well...the game's plot is a about a Uber badass special forces unit that works alone and is headed by our buddy Soap up there. So, i guess the badass special forces unit is not part of NATO.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Neither AK-101 or AK-74, the magazine in the image holds 7.62x39mm. [[User:Rock and Metal|Rock and Metal]] 00:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Maybe theres the tricked out AK up there and the AK-74 style AK.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, seems like we won't know until we'll have a level walkthrough with the name of the weapon in it...--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 15:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::I saw the Gameplay videos and i saw two different AKs. One with a AKM style muzzle brake and another one with a AK-74 style flash hider. Maybe we can build guns from the ground up? like, you can have a AK-47 with a kobra sight, snow camo, fires 7.62x39mm and has a AK-74 flash hider?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
*It's gotta be an AKM.
::Why the fuck it would be an AKM? It looks like an AK-74M or one of the AK-100 series.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Well it has ribbing on the top of the reciever, like the AKM, but the indentation I cannot clearly see. It could be like in Farcry 2, where it has the Ak-47 receiver with some AKM parts, and I used AKM because the 100 series are developments on the AKM, understand? So AK-47 is incorrect.
::::But the AK-10X series were developments on the AK-74M. Also, sign you posts.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well technically the modernizations start with the AKM, I see it as the break off point of the AK series. Ak-74 was designed from the AKM, and so on and so on, but that doesn't matter, yeah it could be the 100 series, but my point is its not an AK-47.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== Unrealeted ==
Ok, i know this has nothing to do with the game or releted to guns but, i was reading the Modern Warfare 2 thread on the Something Awful forums and they were calling the Brazilian gangters africans. What the fuck? and they seen to think the scenes in Rio De Janeiro are set in Africa. What the motherfuck? it offends me that people are dumb enough to ignore the line "he's got a contact in rio" and Christ the Redeemer and the huge mountains with favelas full of illiterate drug dealers and the Brazilian made Imbel MD-3.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:What do you expect? It's Something Awful!

To be fair all the favela gangsters that are seen so far are Afro-Brazilians, even if there are plenty of gang members of all races in real life. With so many games having levels in destroyed urban areas in Africa it's not surprising that some people would get a Black Hawk Down style vibe from the pictures.

Personally I hate something Awful as they break their own rules on posting. One member has a post on there with my first and last names and it's a bloody poison pen hitpeice. I asked the frigging syop to remove the shit and he laughed at me. Personally I find the site the home of a bunch of elitist idiots who have at least one member dumb enough to set the fuel line for a weilding torch on fire.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 19:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, i like something awful but you have to be really dumb not to see the Christ the redeemer.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Hopes For New Game==

Want a little realism and some weapons like standard battle rifles not all trick out with rails. Hoping russians have ak-74s and makarovs or that new 9x19 pistol they developed, not ak47s. Militias and gangs should have a mix of guns, not all berettas and 1911s. A makarov, cz-75, hk or two, glock, model 19 smiths.....just variety.

What the fick is an "akarov"? Lol-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Makarov, a 9x18mm pistol that has been issued in several variants to the russian military. Come on, seriously, sticky keys some things are mspelled.

I knew that. I was just kidding-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the brazilians should use taurus and stoeger guns too, that would be realistic. And the militia should have some sxs coach guns and taurus revolvers, you know, the non tatcticla stuff. And psitols should be portrayed as hard to shoot, not coming back exactly on target after each round and it should wobble a bit while aiming.
:The Brazilian gangsters are using tricked out guns with rails. At least the IMBEL MD-3 up there has a Eotech reflex sight and what looks like rails on the handguards but they could be the regular MD-3 hand guard. We know the AKs are going to be tricked out as fuck like the image above but i think i saw a AK-74 that was not tricked out. I hope they have a AK-74.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1200==

We all know the 1200 is old and not used since vietnam. The 1300 is used. Would it be safe to say these are mis-named winchester 1300s? Or is it more video game nonsense?
:The 1200 in this game is the same 1200 from Modern Warfare 1 so it's safe to say that the Winchester is a 1200 even though is pretty retarded to militarys still be using the 1200 today.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt the 1200 was ever made in this configuration.
:Me too but it is a video game and video game developters are pretty retarded when it comes to guns. Still, this and COD4 have the best Gun porn in video game history atleast by now.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Alright ==
Alright you son-of-a-bitches there's a gameplay video in gametrailers. It's pretty low quality but some new guns were seen, including the gun with the heartbeat sensor and some others. Now, i don't know how to screencap trailers so someone else will have to do it.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Here they come:
[[Image:MW2AR1.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2AR2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
YOU FOOL! It's "sons-of-bitches". That's a pretty awesome-looking cap, though.-protoAuthor
:Thanks for the correction. I am sure Soap and Roach we using AKs with AK-74 flash hiders. Anyone have any idea what kind of AKs were those?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::Oliveira, do you think you could post a link of the trailer for me, please? Thanks so much. --[[User:Blemo|Blemo]] 04:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Which trailer?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

== gameplay demo ==

did anyone see the new gameplay demo for Modern Warfare 2
it showed "Roach"(main protagonist) with a IMBEL MD-3 with a dot sight and a...radar
im not good with gun attachments but is there really a radar attatchment?
:It's a heartbeat sensor and the gun wasn't a MD-3. it looked like a fictional gun of some sort.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::some says it's a SCAR--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Makes sense since the charging handle is on the right side. But i think the SCAR charging handle is on the left side.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
-It looks like a Sig 556 variant to me - Mythekal

Yeah looks like the sig556 itself thogh, not the military versions? Also, would it be safe to say the glock is a glock 18, no idea how anyone would mistake a full auto as a g22/.

It could just be a fully automatic Glock 22. Gun rules dont necessarily matter to video games - Mythekal
:Mythekal is right. Hell, Modern Warfare 1 had a M16A4 that fired on full auto.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

All that matters is the real weapon that the in-game version is modeled from. Call of Duty 4 had an Aks-74u modeled from an Airsoft gun - Mythekal

I'm starting to think that this rifle could be a Bushmaster ACR, as it shares similar traits, except for the placement of the charging handle - Mythekal

:My thoughts too. The charging handle is consistent to the ACR, but the SCAR has the same kind of charging handle. We can't see the stock and both could accept a thermold mag. So it could be either. I really doubt they make up an entire fiction rifle for the sake of it. Modern Warfare was always all about guns that are real. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

::Though the weird part is, the ACR has a slide release right next to the trigger, similiar to the XM8. You reload and just press forward with your trigger finger, no need to slap or pull the charging handle. The SCAR has the slide release like the AR-15 rifles, you can just slap it to release, but yet in the gameplay, you don't slap a slide release or push a slide release, you pull the charging handle back. Strange [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It could be a Magpul Masada. It is very similar to the weapon in the videos, and has a charging handle on the right side of the receiver. In the video, the stock has a hinge, indicating a folding stock, which looks almost identical to the Masada. - Mythekal

The rifle also has ambidexterous charging handles - Mythekal

:That sumbitch is most certainly a Masada.

new gameplay vid says it's a silenced ACR with heartbeat sensor.

I think it is a Magpul Masada [[User:Choi117|Choi117]]
:I watched the Gameplay and i'm sure that the gun is a ACR.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

ACR is the masada. Same gun, switched manufacturer.
:Sorry, i didn't know that.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

But the stock is that of the Masada - Mythekal

::ACR man, I know the Masada sounds cooler, but it isn't call that anymore. It's like people still calling the REC 7 a Barret M468 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or any of the M16 series of weapons a AR-15.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well if it's called AR15, you would be referring to the civilian M16 rifles. M16 is a military weapon and an AR-15 isn't. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the pistol is a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18C]]
:Most likely since it was firing on Full auto.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::It was pointed out that the firing rate wasn't the same speed as a real [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]], but it could be that the developers couldn't quite get the slide and sound speed for a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]]. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or it could be a [[Glock]] firing on semi-automatic. [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::::That little fucker fires fast if its semi auto (pardon my language)
:::::Who ever put the screenshot on the page forgot to remind that the frame color is (tan) "Olive Drab". [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18's]] did not have this color available. [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22's]] just came out with this color somewhere in 2008. Of course I still wouldn't rule out it could be a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] with a replaced frame. But the writers probably wanted to put a new FBI (.40S&W) caliber into their Video Game arsenal.

==Weapons-trailers==

Been seeing trailers online annoncing weapons and perks. How much cred do they have? Theres no footage to back it up, bt several announced weapons are in the screenshots. They also list the 110 SASR, L85, L85 mg version, etc.
:Weapon trailers? Where the hell can i find those? They could be really useful for the article.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Youtube, theres a "weapons" one that just lists guns, and a weapons and perks thing, the perks it actually ahs proof from the original teaser.

:I wouldn't trust any of those youtube bull. One said there might be an XM8 in the game. I hope it does not. That's one more step towards having all the guns Rainbow Six have. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::Those videos are pure speculation. I'm sure those are all bullshit. We will only document weapons that are confirmed by the developters and seen in gameplay.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Hbar? ==
I don't want to offend anyone but, what the motherfuck is a Hbar?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Its the Heavy barreled variant of the Aug meant to be a squad based machine gun - Mythekal

:Hbar could also be refering to anything really. Heavy barrel anything. I've seen plenty of AR-15 variants in movies with Hbars. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::[http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211390/?hd=1&tag=live-schedule] Sometime when the player passes over ennemies' corpses, he can take their weapons. One of them (the other is often a FA-MAS) is a AUG. There is four letter after it, a H at the beginning and I don't see well the other 3. But there is only one variant of the AUG with a "H" in its name, and that's the HBar.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Could someone upload a image of the icon in the above video? The link isn't working for me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I just watched the E3 gameplay again. The AUG HBAR pick up symbol looks amazingly like the SA80 British service rifle. Might be a place holder or something.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

:I made a note of it in the actual page. It DOES look like an SA80 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::My money's on a mislabel. We know the standard AUG is confirmed (all those screenshots) so why not the HBAR too?--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

::If you pause it right before you kill the guy who carried it it's an AUG. So therefore its a mislabel. (I wish I can upload the screenshot but dun know how.)
:::Sign you posts for christ's sake.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
== Correct Name ==
I think we should call this game Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 instead of just [[Modern Warfare 2]] because we have a entire alphabetized series of Call Of Duty in the Video Games Category and just putting this in the "M" section does not look we even have this page. If somebody knows how to put this in the "C" section with out changing the name that will be organized.

:Well that's the problem. Originally it WAS called Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and some still do, but officially, the publishers decided to shorten the title for some reason. We COULD for alphabetize sake, put Call of Duty in front so it fits with the others. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:And I've successfully changed the name [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

::Wait, I thought the reason that this was called Modern Warfare 2 was because Infinity Ward no longer wanted to make any more WWII related games and as such gave the "Call of Duty" moniker to Treyarch. Modern Warfare is supposedly now a separate series from Call of Duty. [[User:Markit|Markit]]
:Modern Warfare is its own series now and isn't a CoD game anymore.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::Or we could make a new "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" page which bring it here.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::[[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, this game is still being published by Activision that published the previous game. It is STILL apart of the Call of Duty franchise, they just chose to officially call this game just Modern Warefare 2. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Keep it modern warfare 2, but link them together, like GM did linking all the dirty harry movies together.

== Taskforce 141 = Rainbow Six ==

A multinational commando unit? The moment I read that, I immediately thought Rainbow and well we really can't complain what kinds of weapons these guys uses since they are a fictional unit like Rainbow so they can use whatever they want. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:I was expecting the task forece to be from the UN. That would be cool.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::But if they say they are are UN taskforce makes the team sound kinda...pointless Like the UN does anything. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I though Rainbow Six was a UN Task Force? Anyway, a movie or televison series about a UN Uber badass task force that were formed to catch international criminals would be really cool. The problem with the UN is that they try to be neutral and being neutral doesn't do anything. The UN should be reformed to be more of a International police that works against international criminals and make international laws.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I like the UN the way it is. What you're talking about sounds like the first step to a totalitarian society.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
:What i'm talking about is stuff like Resolution 84. I also like the UN the way it is but, they fail at quick responses to genocide such as the Rwandan Genocide in 1994.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
In general they fail at mostly any response. They just don't have the power to back up their enforcement of peace. Any peace keeping force with too much power can be oppressive. Who will keep the peace keepers in check when they're suppose to keep us in check? Quite the dilemma. I just don't think the idea of the U.N. or anything similar can work.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

:The United States shall keep the UN in check, without US, there is no UN. They need us more than we need them. It might seem like typical arrogant American mentality, but from how things are, the US has more indirect influence and handle over the entire world. We are the world's insurance policy, the self proclaimed enforcer, guardian, peacekeeping super power despite all our internal problems with crime, money and other things, but because of our population and how relatively young our nation is, the intense diversity in culture and believes keeps us in check. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
::The Problem is when someone like Bush Jr. comes up and fucks everything up. Could you imagine having someone like him being President of The United States during the Cold War? Anyway, The UN did have a really good quick response to the North Korean invasion of South Korea. We almost had North Korea. If weren't for the goddamm chinese.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
: Yeah if it weren't for them all this Kim Jong Il shit wouldn't be happening and we wouldn't be about to go to war in Korea-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hey Smith, if someone is at fault for not winning the Korean War and not having only one Korea, is Mao. Truman also kinda fucked up by telling the 7th Fleet to enter the Taiwan Straits.

== More weapons comfirmed ==

It seems that p90 is making a return and spas 12 will also be ingame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFKBEQoSpu8
:That guy got a lot of the guns wrong and that AUG Hbar looked more like a SA80 to me. And what the hell is up the people thinking that the FAL in the trailer is a AK? It looks nothing like it!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

:Well, most people are unaware of all the different kinds of firearms. I'm surprise this guy in the vid ID as much as there was. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== CPT. Price ==
I hope we get to find out if CPT. Price from CoD4 survived or not. That's been bugging me... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:I think it would cheapen the ending of Modern Warfare 1 if he survived.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

How would that cheapen the ending of the first game? It was never clear if any of the team's survived. What about the Mile High Club mission where you hear Price and Gaz talk? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:Gaz got shot in the face with a Desert Eagle, he's dead.-protoAuthor

Captain Price leads the Task Force in this game!

No, Soap leads the Task Force

Soap does sound kind of similar to Cpt. Price. I guess Price rubbed off on him a little or something.

*Price managed to last for sixty years without ageing, dying or trimming his moustache, so I can't see a little thing like being shot dead getting to him. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 10:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well...I would like if he came back right at the end and save Soap and Roach. But, he better have a even glourious moustache.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, recalling CoD1 a little more, Price has ''already'' died once in the series. He was shot dead on board the ''Tirpitz'' and you just left him there, only for him to turn up again in CoD2 apparently none the worse for it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Didn't COD2 take place before COD1?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Can't remember, to be honest, I didn't play it that much; I was busy being an Annoyed PC Gamer because they took away my quicksaves, fire modes and health packs and replaced them with Not Being Killed Grenades [throw one to not be killed by that machinegun!]. Still, this is his second death in the series, so I wouldn't expect it to cramp his style much. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 12:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:Gaz and Griggs got wasted though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The Cpt. Price in CoD 1 and 2 is a diffrent Price, most probably grandfather. And it is unsure if Price died or if he got promoted and got a higher position...

*Oh come on, it's either a clone or the same guy, they just came up with that when people started seriously questioning an extremely silly off-hand reference. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't talk about something you don't know sh¤t about... [http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Price_(Call_of_Duty_4)] the two Cpt. Price are two diffrent guys

*Two different, totally identical guys. It's an elaborate cover story to hide that Price is invincible and immortal. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 11:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:Captain Price is a symbol representing the glourious British Military. Ok, he is just a tradition for the Guys at Infinity Ward but it would be really cool if he was a symbol.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
==General Observations==
Though I freely admit I got wood watching this trailer one thing I noticed is that the guys from ''Infinity Ward'' seemed to have recycled some scenery. When they showed the guys running through the alleyways of Rio I swear it reminded me of the alleyways of the Arab capital the Marines run through in [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]].

:Not really. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== The New pictures ==
Could someone tell me where did that picture of the american soldier with the M4 came from?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:http://www.modernwarfare247.com/news/special-ops-characters --[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 17:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Jesus Christ, is the weapons section of that website all kinds of fucked up. Thet called an FN-FAL a G3 and they called an AK-74 a AK-47. What the motherfuck? At least that means that we, IMFDB members, have the best website documenting weapons in Modern Warfare 2. But still, what the motherfuck?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
== TAR-21 or F2000? ==
[[Image:MW2TR6.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|A Brazilian Militia firing the unknown rifle, presumably a[[FN F2000#FN F2000 Tactical|FN F2000 Tactical]]]]
Isn't it a TAR-21 rather than a F2000?--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's way too big to be a Tavor. Most likely an F2000.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah... the form is rather an F2000 too...--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:My question is where the fuck is the scope?-[[Special:Contributions/76.31.5.208|76.31.5.208]] 15:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)
::There is an version of the FN2000 that has the scope replaced with rails. I guess that's the one in the picture above.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Whats that under the F2000? Its too skinny to be an M203, I think its a shotugn--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 03:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Looks like an Remington 870.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
How the hell would they fit a shotgun/Masterkey on the three inches of forward rails that the F2000 has? More like a shotgun with an F2000 attachment, rather than the other way around.--[[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 18:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well it definetly looks to be a shotgun, however it's mounted on there.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== MP7? Are you sure? ==

Where do you exactly see MP7?

I only see custom MP5 (or MP5k without foregrip) on the right and two copies of another unidentified weapons on the left.
They have curved magazines where MP7 has foregrip and their casing is completly different.
MP7 doesn't match...
[[User:Morihaus|Morihaus]] 17:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Morihaus

== FAL Please ==

I know one of the screenshots show's what appears to be an MD-2, but I still wanan see a FAL in MW2. I'm getting annoyed by G36Cs and M16s and G3KA4s in all these games. The FAL was a true combat rifle, and I do has want (sorry for net speak)--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 20:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: I absolutely agree with the above statement-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Me too but, the MD-2 is good enough for me. And it is Brazilian! That makes me proud of being Brazilian.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: I like the Imbel also, its a pretty solid gun-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Which Imbel? Imbel is the manufacturer.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Their FAL copy with the fixed stock (it's the only one I've held)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Those are just called FN FALs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The Imbel is great and all, but the FAL is a solid 7.62 rifle. Also, I noticed they're using the AUG A1, not A3 for MW2. I'm pleased with that as the original AUG model was always my favorite.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 22:08, 26 June
2009 (UTC)

== XM8!!!!!! ==

Dear god no, someone is saying an XM8 is in this game?! Is there no GOD!? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:I don't even know where those non-confirmed guns came from. Did they come from those youtube videos about the game's weapons?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
: There better not be an XM8.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 15:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::The XM8 is a piece of fucking shit so it better not be in this game.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I have to agree. The XM8 is overused in games as it is, and it sucks shit. It couldn't even stand up to the M4A1 or M16A4 in US Army testing for christ's sakes!--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::At least it was better than those fucking Air Burst rifles. I can't fucking believe most NATO countries though that would work. Just look at those things! They look like something outta a fucking Anime!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the air burst idea was a massive fail. and remember the OICW program? A multishot grenade launcher and IR scope attached to a rifle, and they wanted a single soldier to carry all that?--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 17:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::At least the XM25 is working.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Guys, chill out, will ya? If you want some enlightenment, the XM8 competed in a "dust test" with the M4A1, HK416, and the SCAR-L, and scored lowest number of stoppages [http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/12/army_carbine_dusttest_071217/]. Here's the score:

XM8: 127 Stoppages
M4: 882 Stoppages
HK416: 233 Stoppages
SCAR-L: 226 Stoppages

The M4 was outperformed by the HK416, SCAR, and XM8, but the army is still standing by the M4A1. Read the article that I've linked to to learn more. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:The M4 is still superior since stoppages don't mean anything.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

:: Actually: It does. The US Army and you can say what you want, 80% of the soldiers do have confidence in the weapon, but the M4A1 still has some problems that the remaining 20% complain about.

1. The handguards can rattle and can become very hot when fired.

2. There can be difficulty zeroing the M68 reflex sight.

3. The rifle has had double-feeding issues, jamming, and feeding problems with the magazine.

55% of Soldiers have also complained that the weapon is too heavy, and want it to be made lighter, and 20% want a bigger magazine. Have you even fired one? Because your statement seems a fit unfounded if you have nothing to support your claim.-[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:No i never fired one because here in Brazil, weapons for civilian use were banned in the entire country. However, i did read Wikipedia's entire article on the M16 and its varients and the M4. And the M4 even when it's loaded, weights a mere 3.1 kilograms.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
*Out of all the weapons tested, I much prefer the SCAR, and so do US Special Forces as they're adopting it already--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 03:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
: Lets hope that the military will ditch the M4/M16 for a Battle Rifle like the SCAR-H or an FAL derivative (Maybe the shorty DSA model) so the troops can use a more effective bullet, cuz that 5.56 BS isn't cutting it-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think they could just rechamber most of the M4s and M16s to 6.8 mm Remington SPC. I don't know if that would be a easy thing to do though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Well Barrett did build the M468/ Rec-7 for the military, but they rejected it. Why not just buy some Rec-7s? But really, I've always thought the 7.62 NATO round was a much better bullet. And a the DSA stubby wouldn't be a bad carbine to use either.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:7.62 rounds give way too much recoil. I still say the 5.56 NATO and 6.8 SPC is still better than 7.62 NATO. You know what? The M4 and M16s don't need to be replaced. There, i said it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
== TDI "Kriss" ==
I know the Kriss is going to be hyped in MW2, as its a powerful .45 ACP SMG that has virtually no recoil and great accuracy. But the guys at IW won't let such a perfect gun into multiplayer, because it'll turn into a noob weapon fast. My bet's on that they purposely change one of it's stats to make it more balanced. Any guesses on what they'll take away from it? My bet is make it less powerful.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:There IS recoil in the Kriss. Every gun has recoil.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::True, but it varies what the recoil force actually ''does'' and how much of it the user feels; the recoil has to go somewhere, but it can be towards things like fighting the gun's own muzzle climb by shoving a weight downwards [as with the Kriss], stopping a barrel that's moving forwards [as with the XM307 / XM312], or quite a number of other things. The general idea is that the Kriss has very light felt recoil for its weight [less than half the weight of a Thompson] because of the novel operating system. And I imagine they'll either limit the magazine, turn it into a peashooter or make it horribly inaccurate. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 02:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or Infinity Ward could make the Kriss a Kicking Rad gun that you will get when you reach the highest level. An all around gun.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::::What about the Rate of Fire? i don't remember if the Kriss had a high R.O.F. or not
:::::From the Future Weapons video I watched on the Kriss, it seems to have an average MP5 like rate of fire. But if IW does let the Kriss go all out, it'll be revenge of the pwned when people get a hold of it. Take that noob tubers! Have some .45 slugs in the face!--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hey man, the noob tube is awesome.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== HK416? ==

Possible HK416-

The SAS guy with the Mohawk & Glock @ 0:30 of the reveal trailer seems to carry something resembling an HK416 (Notice the rear H&K hallmark diopter sights...).
--[[User:Wikinerd|Wikinerd]] 15:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==FN P90==
Why haven't anyone added the P90? It has been confirmed and in the E3 trailer there was a pickup icon for the P90 and it said "Press # to ick up P90"
:Did you miss [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Modern_Warfare_2#FN_P90TR this?]-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Flightplan

2009-07-02T19:41:21Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Glock 23 */

'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[Flight Plan]]'':'''
[[Image:FlightPlanCover.jpg|thumb|right|270px|''Flightplan (2005)'']]

==Glock 23==
U.S. Flight Marshall Carson ([[Peter Sarsgaard]]) carries a [[Glock 23]] 1st Generation as his sidearm while on the main flight. He is seen giving it to Captain Rich ([[Sean Bean]]) before he and the passengers deboard the plane.
[[Image:Glock23.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 23 3rd Generation - .40 Smith & Wesson.]]
[[Image:FPG23-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson hands his Glock 23 to Capt. Rich. In these shots you can see it is a compact sized Glock model with a .40 caliber bore diameter, indicating it is a G23.]]

==Colt Mustang==
U.S. Flight Marshall Carson ([[Peter Sarsgaard]]) keeps a [[Colt Mustang]] in his ankle holster and draws it in an attempt to kill Kyle Pratt ([[Jodie Foster]]) when she handcuffs him to the wall.
[[Image:CM1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Mustang - .380 ACP.]]
[[Image:FPColtMustang-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson draws his Colt Mustang from his ankle holster.]]
[[Image:FPColtMustang-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson aims his Colt Mustang at Kyle. Note how the top of the barrel seen through the ejection port is milled down, a neccessity for the gun to properly cycle blanks.]]
[[Image:FPColtMustang-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson fires his Colt Mustang.]]
[[Image:FPColtMustang-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson searches the plane for Kyle. He is using a good Harries technique, but holds the gun with a poor low grip and has his finger in the trigger guard.]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Thriller]]

Flightplan

2009-07-02T19:40:35Z

RedJedRevolver: /* Glock 23 */

'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[Flight Plan]]'':'''
[[Image:FlightPlanCover.jpg|thumb|right|270px|''Flightplan (2005)'']]

==Glock 23==
U.S. Flight Marshall Carson ([[Peter Sarsgaard]]) carries a [[Glock 23]] 3rd Generation as his sidearm while on the main flight. He is seen giving it to Captain Rich ([[Sean Bean]]) before he and the passengers deboard the plane.
[[Image:Glock23.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 23 2nd Generation - .40 Smith & Wesson.]]
[[Image:FPG23-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson hands his Glock 23 to Capt. Rich. In these shots you can see it is a compact sized Glock model with a .40 caliber bore diameter, indicating it is a G23.]]

==Colt Mustang==
U.S. Flight Marshall Carson ([[Peter Sarsgaard]]) keeps a [[Colt Mustang]] in his ankle holster and draws it in an attempt to kill Kyle Pratt ([[Jodie Foster]]) when she handcuffs him to the wall.
[[Image:CM1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Mustang - .380 ACP.]]
[[Image:FPColtMustang-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson draws his Colt Mustang from his ankle holster.]]
[[Image:FPColtMustang-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson aims his Colt Mustang at Kyle. Note how the top of the barrel seen through the ejection port is milled down, a neccessity for the gun to properly cycle blanks.]]
[[Image:FPColtMustang-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson fires his Colt Mustang.]]
[[Image:FPColtMustang-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Carson searches the plane for Kyle. He is using a good Harries technique, but holds the gun with a poor low grip and has his finger in the trigger guard.]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Thriller]]

Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

2009-07-02T16:49:48Z

RedJedRevolver: /* New AK */

== Brazillian Militia? ==

They better make the main character waste the militia alongside the Brazilian Army or the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOPE/ BOPE] or i am not buying it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

==Guns from the new teaser==
This SMG looks like a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Special Weapons MP-10 and SP-10|Heckler & Koch MP-10]].
[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Special Weapons MP-10 and SP-10|Heckler & Koch MP-10]]]]
[[Image:MW2teastrail1.png|thumb|none|400px|I thought it was a MP5K but if we look closer, it doesn't seem to be one.]]
:It could be a K with the forward grip removed? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

looks like an MP5 with a tactical end-cap, kinda like the end cap on the MP5K. no idea why there's a 15 round magazine though
[[Image:MW2teastrail2.png|thumb|none|400px|And this one looks like a UMP but the the silhouette isn't exactly the same (maybe the model of the game was not loaded enough).]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:It definitely resembles a UMP, it probably has rails on the handguard, as well as the front sight removed, as they did in the last game ~[[user:Revolver|Revolver]]

The one in the first picture is I think a Special Weapons MP-10. Check it out at the bottom of the mp5 page.
::The forearm doesn't look as large as the MP-10 though... everything else looks like a MP-10 indeed.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
The two guns look similar minus the stock and clip. I could be wrong but I'm sure that if it isn't a special weapons mp-10 then it is an UMP.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
:Magazine goddamit![[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
What's wrong with saying clip? It means the same thing.
:.. Uh, no. It's not. A 'clip' is the device that loads a magazine. You either use it to load your detachable magazines, or you carry the clips to load the fixed magazine in your rifle (on old rifles). You don't carry 'clips' around any more. They're two different things. It's like saying rim and tyre mean the same thing. --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] 12:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard that before. I can see where clip comes from stripper clip that they used in rifles. Everyone around me says clip and mag is interchangeable but people use mag more often. If it really bothers you that much then I'll just say mag then.
[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Special Weapons MP-10 9x19mm]]
The second one looks like an UMP. I'm pretty sure we're dealing with two guns here.
::Yeah but there is no rear sight on the one in the screenshot, and it's disturbing me... maybe they took it away because of the Red Dot on it.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually if you look closely that kinda square shape towards the back of the gun is the iron sight so it's pretty much an UMP with what looks like an ACOG. If you're talking about the front sight for the UMP which does appear to be missing, remember that they removed the front sights from the M4/M16 when you attach a sight even though that's not standard.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch UMP .45 ACP]]
[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

I've got a clearer shot of the weapon thanks to a friend :)
[[Image:MW2MP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 17:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

==what AK is this?==
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=2&newsid=20387
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=4&newsid=20387
http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=5&newsid=20387

In the first image I can see that it has a waffle magazine. In the second image I can see that a muzzle brake is present, and in the last image I can see what appears to be a Tapco Intrafuse AK-47 Handguard. So what is it? Oh and it appears to have a synthetic stock. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.253.21|72.133.253.21]] 21:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== Guns from the trailer ==
[[Image:MW2brazil.png|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL or Imbel MD-3 (brazilian variant of the FAL)?]]
I hope it's an FAL. You barely ever see them in video games-S&Wshooter
:Me too. I love fals. And the gun above looks like a IMBEL MD2. Heres the wikipedia article: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMBEL_MD2]. Note how it has a STANAG Magazine like the MD2.I also love how ridiculous looking the Brazilian gang members are.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::rather MD-3 isn't it? Since it hasn't a foldable stock.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 18:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah without the folding stock it is a MD3.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::::However, the gun's long barrel looks more like a FAL... ahh sh*t! This fuc*ing game is driving me mad, every guns don't look exactly the same as their originals^^--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:I think there are Imbel MD2s or MD3s with the regular barrel.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, there are no Imbel MD3s with regular barrels. It's most likely a design error by the developters.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
(comment: It better be a FAL. I'm getting tired of M4's, M16's, AK's and G36's. I want to be able to use a gun ingame that in't too small for me in real life.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]])
:I agree. the game better have G3s and IMI galils. I also love the fact that is a Brazilian made Fal. You don't see those in movies.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:I also want a MG3 or some kind of big, dumb machine gun chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO. Machine guns chambered to 7.62 tear shit up.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
: Hell yeah man! Thats exactly what I'm saying. I would also like to see some more bolt action jobs that aren't crappy( DSR-1, Enfield Enforcer, Steyr SSG) in video games- [[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::''This would probably be the IMBEL MD-2 (folding stock) or MD-3 (fixed stock) which is manufactured locally in Brazil. The weapons are based, pretty much, on the FAL with the exception that they fire a 5.56 round'' [[User:Charon68|Charon68]]
:::And are fed from STANAG Magazines and have different handguards.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:I'm tired of .223 guns. I would like to see a FAL, M14 or G3 that isn't emasculated (made innacurate, weak or make ammo for it scarce)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]]
::I want a M14 that is not tricked out with rails like the one in Call of Duty 4. I want a M14 like the one below:
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A real M14.]]
I do like the Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR rifle though. I also want A M16A4 that doesn't fire on Full Auto and a AK-74. AK-74s don't get enough love.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::CoD 7 will be about Vietnam War according to rumours, maybe they'll put in one.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 19:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::And smaller conflicts in africa. I hope they also put atleast one level that takes place in the portuguese colonial war.
[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Now i think the FAL above may be a FN FAL with rails on the handguards and a 30 round magazine but i think it's too curved and big to be 7.62x51mm NATO.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:06, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:MW2smg.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2Brazilpistol2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2Brazilpistol.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 16:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

*A Kriss Super V?
Cool. The pistol is a Desert Eagle, by the way.-protoAuthor
:I think the pistol is a Jericho 941 since it's too small to be a desert eagle.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::No, it's an Eagle. Check out the ejection port.
:::''I concur. It's not terribly visible, but there's that familiar slide mounted safety in both shots. It appears to be a totally game-created custom finish though - the barrel and the underlying section of the frame (where the gas pistons are housed) look to be blued and the grips and the rest of the frame looks silver. On a couple of related notes, wow at the graphics - I took these for pictures of the developers testing out their guns at first - and wow at the handling of the Desert Eagle by this guy. Usually in these games, you see handguns being handled only somewhat compentently at best. This guy looks like he sleeps with the damn thing.'' ---[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Also, take note of the sound it makes when it fires. Exact same sound as the Desert Eagle in CoD4.

== The machine gun ==
I think the machine gun that the russian terrorists are using is a M240.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think it's a M249 SAW, the M240 (GP Machine gun) is bigger.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 18:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Could it possibly be a Mk. 46?
:Makes sense since most of the guns are special forces guns.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
==New AK==
[[Image:AKMW2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
I think its just an amped up AK-47. It has an AR-15 stock, waffle magazine, and has a synthetic handguard.
Found a similar image:
[[Image:Ak-47-weapon-accessories-desert-colourb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[User:Rock and Metal|Rock and Metal]] 22:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Good god, look what they did to that AK! That's just horrible. I hope the AK in the game isn't like that.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::I watched the trailer again. I am sure that i saw a AK with a AK-74 style flash hider.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe a AK-101 since NATO forces use 5.56mm.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 11:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think it could be a AK-74M or just a AK-74 since the russian army might make a apparence and they need to arm the russian soldiers.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I said "NATO forces"--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 22:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC) because the one having it in the screenshot is Soap... well, maybe or surely, he captured because he had a M14 at the beginning.
::Well...the game's plot is a about a Uber badass special forces unit that works alone and is headed by our buddy Soap up there. So, i guess the badass special forces unit is not part of NATO.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Neither AK-101 or AK-74, the magazine in the image holds 7.62x39mm. [[User:Rock and Metal|Rock and Metal]] 00:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Maybe theres the tricked out AK up there and the AK-74 style AK.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, seems like we won't know until we'll have a level walkthrough with the name of the weapon in it...--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 15:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::I saw the Gameplay videos and i saw two different AKs. One with a AKM style muzzle brake and another one with a AK-74 style flash hider. Maybe we can build guns from the ground up? like, you can have a AK-47 with a kobra sight, snow camo, fires 7.62x39mm and has a AK-74 flash hider?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
*It's gotta be an AKM.
::Why the fuck it would be an AKM? It looks like an AK-74M or one of the AK-100 series.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Well it has ribbing on the top of the reciever, like the AKM, but the indentation I cannot clearly see. It could be like in Farcry 2, where it has the Ak-47 receiver with some AKM parts, and I used AKM because the 100 series are developments on the AKM, understand? So AK-47 is incorrect.

== Unrealeted ==
Ok, i know this has nothing to do with the game or releted to guns but, i was reading the Modern Warfare 2 thread on the Something Awful forums and they were calling the Brazilian gangters africans. What the fuck? and they seen to think the scenes in Rio De Janeiro are set in Africa. What the motherfuck? it offends me that people are dumb enough to ignore the line "he's got a contact in rio" and Christ the Redeemer and the huge mountains with favelas full of illiterate drug dealers and the Brazilian made Imbel MD-3.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:What do you expect? It's Something Awful!

To be fair all the favela gangsters that are seen so far are Afro-Brazilians, even if there are plenty of gang members of all races in real life. With so many games having levels in destroyed urban areas in Africa it's not surprising that some people would get a Black Hawk Down style vibe from the pictures.

Personally I hate something Awful as they break their own rules on posting. One member has a post on there with my first and last names and it's a bloody poison pen hitpeice. I asked the frigging syop to remove the shit and he laughed at me. Personally I find the site the home of a bunch of elitist idiots who have at least one member dumb enough to set the fuel line for a weilding torch on fire.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 19:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, i like something awful but you have to be really dumb not to see the Christ the redeemer.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Hopes For New Game==

Want a little realism and some weapons like standard battle rifles not all trick out with rails. Hoping russians have ak-74s and makarovs or that new 9x19 pistol they developed, not ak47s. Militias and gangs should have a mix of guns, not all berettas and 1911s. A makarov, cz-75, hk or two, glock, model 19 smiths.....just variety.

What the fick is an "akarov"? Lol-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Makarov, a 9x18mm pistol that has been issued in several variants to the russian military. Come on, seriously, sticky keys some things are mspelled.

I knew that. I was just kidding-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the brazilians should use taurus and stoeger guns too, that would be realistic. And the militia should have some sxs coach guns and taurus revolvers, you know, the non tatcticla stuff. And psitols should be portrayed as hard to shoot, not coming back exactly on target after each round and it should wobble a bit while aiming.
:The Brazilian gangsters are using tricked out guns with rails. At least the IMBEL MD-3 up there has a Eotech reflex sight and what looks like rails on the handguards but they could be the regular MD-3 hand guard. We know the AKs are going to be tricked out as fuck like the image above but i think i saw a AK-74 that was not tricked out. I hope they have a AK-74.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1200==

We all know the 1200 is old and not used since vietnam. The 1300 is used. Would it be safe to say these are mis-named winchester 1300s? Or is it more video game nonsense?
:The 1200 in this game is the same 1200 from Modern Warfare 1 so it's safe to say that the Winchester is a 1200 even though is pretty retarded to militarys still be using the 1200 today.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt the 1200 was ever made in this configuration.
:Me too but it is a video game and video game developters are pretty retarded when it comes to guns. Still, this and COD4 have the best Gun porn in video game history atleast by now.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Alright ==
Alright you son-of-a-bitches there's a gameplay video in gametrailers. It's pretty low quality but some new guns were seen, including the gun with the heartbeat sensor and some others. Now, i don't know how to screencap trailers so someone else will have to do it.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Here they come:
[[Image:MW2AR1.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2AR2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
YOU FOOL! It's "sons-of-bitches". That's a pretty awesome-looking cap, though.-protoAuthor
:Thanks for the correction. I am sure Soap and Roach we using AKs with AK-74 flash hiders. Anyone have any idea what kind of AKs were those?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::Oliveira, do you think you could post a link of the trailer for me, please? Thanks so much. --[[User:Blemo|Blemo]] 04:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Which trailer?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

== gameplay demo ==

did anyone see the new gameplay demo for Modern Warfare 2
it showed "Roach"(main protagonist) with a IMBEL MD-3 with a dot sight and a...radar
im not good with gun attachments but is there really a radar attatchment?
:It's a heartbeat sensor and the gun wasn't a MD-3. it looked like a fictional gun of some sort.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::some says it's a SCAR--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 21:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Makes sense since the charging handle is on the right side. But i think the SCAR charging handle is on the left side.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
-It looks like a Sig 556 variant to me - Mythekal

Yeah looks like the sig556 itself thogh, not the military versions? Also, would it be safe to say the glock is a glock 18, no idea how anyone would mistake a full auto as a g22/.

It could just be a fully automatic Glock 22. Gun rules dont necessarily matter to video games - Mythekal
:Mythekal is right. Hell, Modern Warfare 1 had a M16A4 that fired on full auto.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

All that matters is the real weapon that the in-game version is modeled from. Call of Duty 4 had an Aks-74u modeled from an Airsoft gun - Mythekal

I'm starting to think that this rifle could be a Bushmaster ACR, as it shares similar traits, except for the placement of the charging handle - Mythekal

:My thoughts too. The charging handle is consistent to the ACR, but the SCAR has the same kind of charging handle. We can't see the stock and both could accept a thermold mag. So it could be either. I really doubt they make up an entire fiction rifle for the sake of it. Modern Warfare was always all about guns that are real. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

::Though the weird part is, the ACR has a slide release right next to the trigger, similiar to the XM8. You reload and just press forward with your trigger finger, no need to slap or pull the charging handle. The SCAR has the slide release like the AR-15 rifles, you can just slap it to release, but yet in the gameplay, you don't slap a slide release or push a slide release, you pull the charging handle back. Strange [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It could be a Magpul Masada. It is very similar to the weapon in the videos, and has a charging handle on the right side of the receiver. In the video, the stock has a hinge, indicating a folding stock, which looks almost identical to the Masada. - Mythekal

The rifle also has ambidexterous charging handles - Mythekal

:That sumbitch is most certainly a Masada.

new gameplay vid says it's a silenced ACR with heartbeat sensor.

I think it is a Magpul Masada [[User:Choi117|Choi117]]
:I watched the Gameplay and i'm sure that the gun is a ACR.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

ACR is the masada. Same gun, switched manufacturer.
:Sorry, i didn't know that.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

But the stock is that of the Masada - Mythekal

::ACR man, I know the Masada sounds cooler, but it isn't call that anymore. It's like people still calling the REC 7 a Barret M468 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or any of the M16 series of weapons a AR-15.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well if it's called AR15, you would be referring to the civilian M16 rifles. M16 is a military weapon and an AR-15 isn't. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the pistol is a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18C]]
:Most likely since it was firing on Full auto.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::It was pointed out that the firing rate wasn't the same speed as a real [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]], but it could be that the developers couldn't quite get the slide and sound speed for a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]]. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or it could be a [[Glock]] firing on semi-automatic. [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::::That little fucker fires fast if its semi auto (pardon my language)
:::::Who ever put the screenshot on the page forgot to remind that the frame color is (tan) "Olive Drab". [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18's]] did not have this color available. [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22's]] just came out with this color somewhere in 2008. Of course I still wouldn't rule out it could be a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] with a replaced frame. But the writers probably wanted to put a new FBI (.40S&W) caliber into their Video Game arsenal.

==Weapons-trailers==

Been seeing trailers online annoncing weapons and perks. How much cred do they have? Theres no footage to back it up, bt several announced weapons are in the screenshots. They also list the 110 SASR, L85, L85 mg version, etc.
:Weapon trailers? Where the hell can i find those? They could be really useful for the article.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Youtube, theres a "weapons" one that just lists guns, and a weapons and perks thing, the perks it actually ahs proof from the original teaser.

:I wouldn't trust any of those youtube bull. One said there might be an XM8 in the game. I hope it does not. That's one more step towards having all the guns Rainbow Six have. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::Those videos are pure speculation. I'm sure those are all bullshit. We will only document weapons that are confirmed by the developters and seen in gameplay.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Hbar? ==
I don't want to offend anyone but, what the motherfuck is a Hbar?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Its the Heavy barreled variant of the Aug meant to be a squad based machine gun - Mythekal

:Hbar could also be refering to anything really. Heavy barrel anything. I've seen plenty of AR-15 variants in movies with Hbars. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::[http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211390/?hd=1&tag=live-schedule] Sometime when the player passes over ennemies' corpses, he can take their weapons. One of them (the other is often a FA-MAS) is a AUG. There is four letter after it, a H at the beginning and I don't see well the other 3. But there is only one variant of the AUG with a "H" in its name, and that's the HBar.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Could someone upload a image of the icon in the above video? The link isn't working for me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I just watched the E3 gameplay again. The AUG HBAR pick up symbol looks amazingly like the SA80 British service rifle. Might be a place holder or something.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

:I made a note of it in the actual page. It DOES look like an SA80 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::My money's on a mislabel. We know the standard AUG is confirmed (all those screenshots) so why not the HBAR too?--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

::If you pause it right before you kill the guy who carried it it's an AUG. So therefore its a mislabel. (I wish I can upload the screenshot but dun know how.)
:::Sign you posts for christ's sake.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
== Correct Name ==
I think we should call this game Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 instead of just [[Modern Warfare 2]] because we have a entire alphabetized series of Call Of Duty in the Video Games Category and just putting this in the "M" section does not look we even have this page. If somebody knows how to put this in the "C" section with out changing the name that will be organized.

:Well that's the problem. Originally it WAS called Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and some still do, but officially, the publishers decided to shorten the title for some reason. We COULD for alphabetize sake, put Call of Duty in front so it fits with the others. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:And I've successfully changed the name [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

::Wait, I thought the reason that this was called Modern Warfare 2 was because Infinity Ward no longer wanted to make any more WWII related games and as such gave the "Call of Duty" moniker to Treyarch. Modern Warfare is supposedly now a separate series from Call of Duty. [[User:Markit|Markit]]
:Modern Warfare is its own series now and isn't a CoD game anymore.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::Or we could make a new "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" page which bring it here.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::[[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, this game is still being published by Activision that published the previous game. It is STILL apart of the Call of Duty franchise, they just chose to officially call this game just Modern Warefare 2. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Keep it modern warfare 2, but link them together, like GM did linking all the dirty harry movies together.

== Taskforce 141 = Rainbow Six ==

A multinational commando unit? The moment I read that, I immediately thought Rainbow and well we really can't complain what kinds of weapons these guys uses since they are a fictional unit like Rainbow so they can use whatever they want. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:I was expecting the task forece to be from the UN. That would be cool.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::But if they say they are are UN taskforce makes the team sound kinda...pointless Like the UN does anything. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I though Rainbow Six was a UN Task Force? Anyway, a movie or televison series about a UN Uber badass task force that were formed to catch international criminals would be really cool. The problem with the UN is that they try to be neutral and being neutral doesn't do anything. The UN should be reformed to be more of a International police that works against international criminals and make international laws.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I like the UN the way it is. What you're talking about sounds like the first step to a totalitarian society.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]
:What i'm talking about is stuff like Resolution 84. I also like the UN the way it is but, they fail at quick responses to genocide such as the Rwandan Genocide in 1994.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
In general they fail at mostly any response. They just don't have the power to back up their enforcement of peace. Any peace keeping force with too much power can be oppressive. Who will keep the peace keepers in check when they're suppose to keep us in check? Quite the dilemma. I just don't think the idea of the U.N. or anything similar can work.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

:The United States shall keep the UN in check, without US, there is no UN. They need us more than we need them. It might seem like typical arrogant American mentality, but from how things are, the US has more indirect influence and handle over the entire world. We are the world's insurance policy, the self proclaimed enforcer, guardian, peacekeeping super power despite all our internal problems with crime, money and other things, but because of our population and how relatively young our nation is, the intense diversity in culture and believes keeps us in check. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
::The Problem is when someone like Bush Jr. comes up and fucks everything up. Could you imagine having someone like him being President of The United States during the Cold War? Anyway, The UN did have a really good quick response to the North Korean invasion of South Korea. We almost had North Korea. If weren't for the goddamm chinese.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
: Yeah if it weren't for them all this Kim Jong Il shit wouldn't be happening and we wouldn't be about to go to war in Korea-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hey Smith, if someone is at fault for not winning the Korean War and not having only one Korea, is Mao. Truman also kinda fucked up by telling the 7th Fleet to enter the Taiwan Straits.

== More weapons comfirmed ==

It seems that p90 is making a return and spas 12 will also be ingame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFKBEQoSpu8
:That guy got a lot of the guns wrong and that AUG Hbar looked more like a SA80 to me. And what the hell is up the people thinking that the FAL in the trailer is a AK? It looks nothing like it!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

:Well, most people are unaware of all the different kinds of firearms. I'm surprise this guy in the vid ID as much as there was. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== CPT. Price ==
I hope we get to find out if CPT. Price from CoD4 survived or not. That's been bugging me... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:I think it would cheapen the ending of Modern Warfare 1 if he survived.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

How would that cheapen the ending of the first game? It was never clear if any of the team's survived. What about the Mile High Club mission where you hear Price and Gaz talk? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:Gaz got shot in the face with a Desert Eagle, he's dead.-protoAuthor

Captain Price leads the Task Force in this game!

No, Soap leads the Task Force

Soap does sound kind of similar to Cpt. Price. I guess Price rubbed off on him a little or something.

*Price managed to last for sixty years without ageing, dying or trimming his moustache, so I can't see a little thing like being shot dead getting to him. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 10:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well...I would like if he came back right at the end and save Soap and Roach. But, he better have a even glourious moustache.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, recalling CoD1 a little more, Price has ''already'' died once in the series. He was shot dead on board the ''Tirpitz'' and you just left him there, only for him to turn up again in CoD2 apparently none the worse for it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Didn't COD2 take place before COD1?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Can't remember, to be honest, I didn't play it that much; I was busy being an Annoyed PC Gamer because they took away my quicksaves, fire modes and health packs and replaced them with Not Being Killed Grenades [throw one to not be killed by that machinegun!]. Still, this is his second death in the series, so I wouldn't expect it to cramp his style much. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 12:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:Gaz and Griggs got wasted though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The Cpt. Price in CoD 1 and 2 is a diffrent Price, most probably grandfather. And it is unsure if Price died or if he got promoted and got a higher position...

*Oh come on, it's either a clone or the same guy, they just came up with that when people started seriously questioning an extremely silly off-hand reference. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't talk about something you don't know sh¤t about... [http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Price_(Call_of_Duty_4)] the two Cpt. Price are two diffrent guys

*Two different, totally identical guys. It's an elaborate cover story to hide that Price is invincible and immortal. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 11:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:Captain Price is a symbol representing the glourious British Military. Ok, he is just a tradition for the Guys at Infinity Ward but it would be really cool if he was a symbol.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
==General Observations==
Though I freely admit I got wood watching this trailer one thing I noticed is that the guys from ''Infinity Ward'' seemed to have recycled some scenery. When they showed the guys running through the alleyways of Rio I swear it reminded me of the alleyways of the Arab capital the Marines run through in [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]].

:Not really. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== The New pictures ==
Could someone tell me where did that picture of the american soldier with the M4 came from?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:http://www.modernwarfare247.com/news/special-ops-characters --[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 17:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Jesus Christ, is the weapons section of that website all kinds of fucked up. Thet called an FN-FAL a G3 and they called an AK-74 a AK-47. What the motherfuck? At least that means that we, IMFDB members, have the best website documenting weapons in Modern Warfare 2. But still, what the motherfuck?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
== TAR-21 or F2000? ==
[[Image:MW2TR6.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|A Brazilian Militia firing the unknown rifle, presumably a[[FN F2000#FN F2000 Tactical|FN F2000 Tactical]]]]
Isn't it a TAR-21 rather than a F2000?--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's way too big to be a Tavor. Most likely an F2000.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah... the form is rather an F2000 too...--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 08:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:My question is where the fuck is the scope?-[[Special:Contributions/76.31.5.208|76.31.5.208]] 15:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)
::There is an version of the FN2000 that has the scope replaced with rails. I guess that's the one in the picture above.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Whats that under the F2000? Its too skinny to be an M203, I think its a shotugn--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 03:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Looks like an Remington 870.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
How the hell would they fit a shotgun/Masterkey on the three inches of forward rails that the F2000 has? More like a shotgun with an F2000 attachment, rather than the other way around.--[[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 18:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well it definetly looks to be a shotgun, however it's mounted on there.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== MP7? Are you sure? ==

Where do you exactly see MP7?

I only see custom MP5 (or MP5k without foregrip) on the right and two copies of another unidentified weapons on the left.
They have curved magazines where MP7 has foregrip and their casing is completly different.
MP7 doesn't match...
[[User:Morihaus|Morihaus]] 17:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Morihaus

== FAL Please ==

I know one of the screenshots show's what appears to be an MD-2, but I still wanan see a FAL in MW2. I'm getting annoyed by G36Cs and M16s and G3KA4s in all these games. The FAL was a true combat rifle, and I do has want (sorry for net speak)--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 20:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: I absolutely agree with the above statement-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Me too but, the MD-2 is good enough for me. And it is Brazilian! That makes me proud of being Brazilian.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
: I like the Imbel also, its a pretty solid gun-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Which Imbel? Imbel is the manufacturer.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Their FAL copy with the fixed stock (it's the only one I've held)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::Those are just called FN FALs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The Imbel is great and all, but the FAL is a solid 7.62 rifle. Also, I noticed they're using the AUG A1, not A3 for MW2. I'm pleased with that as the original AUG model was always my favorite.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 22:08, 26 June
2009 (UTC)

== XM8!!!!!! ==

Dear god no, someone is saying an XM8 is in this game?! Is there no GOD!? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:I don't even know where those non-confirmed guns came from. Did they come from those youtube videos about the game's weapons?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
: There better not be an XM8.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 15:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::The XM8 is a piece of fucking shit so it better not be in this game.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I have to agree. The XM8 is overused in games as it is, and it sucks shit. It couldn't even stand up to the M4A1 or M16A4 in US Army testing for christ's sakes!--[[Special:Contributions/142.162.149.33|142.162.149.33]] 17:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::At least it was better than those fucking Air Burst rifles. I can't fucking believe most NATO countries though that would work. Just look at those things! They look like something outta a fucking Anime!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the air burst idea was a massive fail. and remember the OICW program? A multishot grenade launcher and IR scope attached to a rifle, and they wanted a single soldier to carry all that?--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 17:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::At least the XM25 is working.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Guys, chill out, will ya? If you want some enlightenment, the XM8 competed in a "dust test" with the M4A1, HK416, and the SCAR-L, and scored lowest number of stoppages [http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/12/army_carbine_dusttest_071217/]. Here's the score:

XM8: 127 Stoppages
M4: 882 Stoppages
HK416: 233 Stoppages
SCAR-L: 226 Stoppages

The M4 was outperformed by the HK416, SCAR, and XM8, but the army is still standing by the M4A1. Read the article that I've linked to to learn more. -[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:The M4 is still superior since stoppages don't mean anything.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

:: Actually: It does. The US Army and you can say what you want, 80% of the soldiers do have confidence in the weapon, but the M4A1 still has some problems that the remaining 20% complain about.

1. The handguards can rattle and can become very hot when fired.

2. There can be difficulty zeroing the M68 reflex sight.

3. The rifle has had double-feeding issues, jamming, and feeding problems with the magazine.

55% of Soldiers have also complained that the weapon is too heavy, and want it to be made lighter, and 20% want a bigger magazine. Have you even fired one? Because your statement seems a fit unfounded if you have nothing to support your claim.-[[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
:No i never fired one because here in Brazil, weapons for civilian use were banned in the entire country. However, i did read Wikipedia's entire article on the M16 and its varients and the M4. And the M4 even when it's loaded, weights a mere 3.1 kilograms.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
*Out of all the weapons tested, I much prefer the SCAR, and so do US Special Forces as they're adopting it already--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 03:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
: Lets hope that the military will ditch the M4/M16 for a Battle Rifle like the SCAR-H or an FAL derivative (Maybe the shorty DSA model) so the troops can use a more effective bullet, cuz that 5.56 BS isn't cutting it-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think they could just rechamber most of the M4s and M16s to 6.8 mm Remington SPC. I don't know if that would be a easy thing to do though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Well Barrett did build the M468/ Rec-7 for the military, but they rejected it. Why not just buy some Rec-7s? But really, I've always thought the 7.62 NATO round was a much better bullet. And a the DSA stubby wouldn't be a bad carbine to use either.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:7.62 rounds give way too much recoil. I still say the 5.56 NATO and 6.8 SPC is still better than 7.62 NATO. You know what? The M4 and M16s don't need to be replaced. There, i said it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
== TDI "Kriss" ==
I know the Kriss is going to be hyped in MW2, as its a powerful .45 ACP SMG that has virtually no recoil and great accuracy. But the guys at IW won't let such a perfect gun into multiplayer, because it'll turn into a noob weapon fast. My bet's on that they purposely change one of it's stats to make it more balanced. Any guesses on what they'll take away from it? My bet is make it less powerful.--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:There IS recoil in the Kriss. Every gun has recoil.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::True, but it varies what the recoil force actually ''does'' and how much of it the user feels; the recoil has to go somewhere, but it can be towards things like fighting the gun's own muzzle climb by shoving a weight downwards [as with the Kriss], stopping a barrel that's moving forwards [as with the XM307 / XM312], or quite a number of other things. The general idea is that the Kriss has very light felt recoil for its weight [less than half the weight of a Thompson] because of the novel operating system. And I imagine they'll either limit the magazine, turn it into a peashooter or make it horribly inaccurate. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 02:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Or Infinity Ward could make the Kriss a Kicking Rad gun that you will get when you reach the highest level. An all around gun.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::::What about the Rate of Fire? i don't remember if the Kriss had a high R.O.F. or not
:::::From the Future Weapons video I watched on the Kriss, it seems to have an average MP5 like rate of fire. But if IW does let the Kriss go all out, it'll be revenge of the pwned when people get a hold of it. Take that noob tubers! Have some .45 slugs in the face!--[[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 16:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hey man, the noob tube is awesome.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== HK416? ==

Possible HK416-

The SAS guy with the Mohawk & Glock @ 0:30 of the reveal trailer seems to carry something resembling an HK416 (Notice the rear H&K hallmark diopter sights...).
--[[User:Wikinerd|Wikinerd]] 15:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==FN P90==
Why haven't anyone added the P90? It has been confirmed and in the E3 trailer there was a pickup icon for the P90 and it said "Press # to ick up P90"
:Did you miss [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Modern_Warfare_2#FN_P90TR this?]-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

2009-07-02T14:50:44Z

RedJedRevolver: /* AK-47 */

'''The following guns will be used in the video game ''[[Modern Warfare 2]] (Call of Duty)'''''

'''Note: Guns need to be identified on the discussion page!'''

[[Image:MW2.jpg|right|400px|thumb|''[[Modern Warfare 2]]'' (2009)]]

== [[Steyr AUG|Steyr AUG HBar]] ==
This is Indeed an A2, but with an A1 Sight mounted on the top rail. In the game demo, when you hover over an AUG to pick it up, there is always a small white version of the weapon you want to pick up with the name next to it. It does say HBAR, but the white picture looks like an L85, not an AUG.

[[Image:Steyr-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Steyr AUG - Austrian Army Version 5.56mm]]
[[Image:MW2AUGA1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian ultra-nationalist with a AUG A2.]]
[[Image:MW2TR3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Soap throwing a man armed with a [[Steyr AUG]] over his shoulder.]]
[[Image:MW2FAMASSteyrAUG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A [[Steyr AUG]] and a [[FAMAS]] on the ground when "Roach" switches weapons.]]

== [[FAMAS|FA-MAS F1]] ==
The [[FAMAS|FA-MAS F1]] is seen in the game. According to the firefight on mission "Cliffhangar" Roach can be seen shooting his unsurpressed secondary weapon the [[FAMAS|FA-MAS F1]] on burst-fire this is similar to the [[M16 rifle series#M16A4|M16A4]] in the previous game [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]. They have been seen configured with red dot sights in-game
[[Image:Famas.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAS 5.56mm Assault Rifle. Standard service rifle of the French Forces.]]
[[Image:MW2FamasF1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian ultra-nationalist with a FAMAS assault rifle.]]
[[Image:FAMAS_modern_warafe_2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|FAMAS assault rifle first person.]]
[[Image:FAMAS2Reloading.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Reloading the [[FAMAS]]. This is unlike the first game, Roach is reloading with his finger OFF the trigger.]]
[[Image:MW2FAMASSteyrAUG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A [[Steyr AUG]] and a [[FAMAS]] on the ground when "Roach" switches weapons.]]

== [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|M4 Carbine]] ==
Possibly could be an early M468 or other M4 Variant. However, it is likely an M4 with ARMS SIR system. The third person screenshots match with the first person screenshots, indicating that it is probably an M4.
[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with 4 position collapsible stock 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:SIR.jpg|thumb|none|250px|S.I.R. system]]
[[Image:MW2ColtM933.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4 Carbine with a S.I.R. system, an ACOG sight and a M203 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MW2SpOpsM4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|American special force with a M4 Carbine with a M203 grenade launcher, EoTech sight, and desert camouflaged stock and pistol grip. Note how it is a "lefty" M4, since the designers did not create a weapon skin for the right side of the M4's receiver, hence the absence of a bolt and/or a forward assist. Also note how he holds this lefty M4 in his right hand.]]

== [[M16 rifle series|M16 rifle]] ==
[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A2 (with A2 rear Sight, brass deflector, heavy barrel and longer buttstock) 5.56x45mm with [[M203 grenade launcher]] - 40mm]]
[[Image:M16M203.png|thumb|none|400px|The soldier on the left has a M16 rifle with a M203 grenade launcher mounted on it.]]

==[[AK-47]]==
The [[AK-47]] on this game is has the same if not better attachments as on the previous version.

Thus far as of the gameplay demo "cliffhangar" release, the AK-47 is seen with an ACOG sight, red dot sight and also as a Grenadier-configured weapon.
*It's gotta be an AKM.
[[Image:Ak-47-weapon-accessories-desert-colourb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:AKMW2.png|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:MW2AK-47 Red Dot Sight2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The [[AK-47]] with a Red Dot Sight on Mission "Cliffhangar"]]
[[Image:MW2AK-47 Red Dot SightReloading.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Reloading the [[AK-47]] on Mission "Cliffhangar"]]

== [[Bushmaster ACR]] ==
Used by Roach in the gameplay demonstration at the E3's Microsoft conference. It is equipped with Remmington 6.8x43mm SPC ammunition, a silencer, reflex sight, heartbeat monitor, and a 30 round magazine.
[[Image:Bushmasteracrentry.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bushmaster ACR Entry Carbine, 5.56x45mm NATO/6.8x43mm Rem SPC/7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:MW2AR2.png|thumb|none|400px|[[Bushmaster ACR]] used by "Roach" in Mission "Cliffhangar".]]
[[Image:MW2ACRReloading.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Reloading the [[Bushmaster ACR]] on Mission "Cliffhangar".]]

NOTE:The caliber is a mistake,the magazine Roach is using is a Pmag they only make those in 5.56 and the only magazine for 6.8 spc that holds 30 rounds is from Barret firearms and it looks like an extended black GI magazine.

== [[M14 Rifle#Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR]] ==
[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR. 7.62x51 NATO, with a Harris bipod and vertical RIS foregrip.]]
[[Image:MW2McTavishRifle.png|thumb|none|400px|Soap with a Modified M14 EBR with a suppressor on his back.]]

== Unknown Rifle ==
[[Image:MW2TR2.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|A Brazilian Militia armed with the unknown rifle, presumably a tricked out FAL or IMBEL MD3.]]

== FN F2000 ==
An [[FN2000 Tactical]] (denoted by lack of optical sight) is seen in the hands of a Brazilian militia.
[[Image:Fn fs2000 blk.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[FN F2000#FN F2000 Tactical|FN F2000 Tactical]] - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:MW2TR6.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|A Brazilian Militia The FN2000 Tactical, seemingly with an underslung shotgun.[[FN F2000#FN F2000 Tactical|FN F2000 Tactical]]]]

== FN SCAR ==

Seen in Spanish Magazine. No official confirmation and no screenshot as well. Spanish magazine used a real-life graphic of the FN SCAR.

== IMI Tavor TAR-21 ==
There is not any picture of it yet, but Robert Bowling aka Fourzerotwo, community manager of Infinty Ward confirmed it in a interview ([http://www.videogamer.com/ps3/cod_modern_warfare_2/preview-1803-2.html]).
[[Image:Tavor-tar.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[IMI Tavor TAR-21]] 5.56x45mm NATO]]

== [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] ==
Seen held by the Riot policeman that was likely killed in the shot below. It seems to have a tri-rail forearm.
Probably in hands at members of spetsnaz with boards a pistol-automatic machine of Russian manufacture СР-3 "Вихрь"! At least it is most similar to it.
[[Image:MP5A3N.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] - 9x19mm with Navy trigger group]]
[[Image:MW2TR1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A riot Policeman falls dead with an [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]]]

== [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]] ==
This particular 4.6x30mm PDW is seen in the hands of at least two of the Riot police in the trailer, they seem to have the same square-shaped Reflex sight seen throughout the trailer.
[[Image:Hk mp7 b-1-.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]] - 4.6x30mm with Zeiss Z-Point sight. This [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1|MP7]] shown in SMG configuration.]]
[[Image:MW2TR1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|At least one of the riot Policeman with an MP7A1]]

== [[Heckler & Koch UMP]] ==
Definete seen with a scope, Possibly an ACOG, but this is unconfirmed. Likely a 45 Model due to the straight magazine, but it might also be the 40.
[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Heckler & Koch UMP]] - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MW2TR4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Snowmobile driven by a Terrorist armed with a [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]]]]
[[image:MW2TR5.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Two terroists with an [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]]]]

== [[Heckler & Koch XM8]] ==

Not Confirmed yet.

Where did this come from? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== [[Heckler & Koch G3]] ==

Seen momentarily in the reveal trailer.

[http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2484/3656633445_37ca5bf829_o.jpg]

== [[Heckler & Koch G36K]] ==

Seen in Spanish Magazine. No official confirmation and no screenshot as well. Spanish magazine used a real-life graphic of the G36K.

== [[TDI Vector#TDI Vector|TDI Vector]] ==

Definite, seen with no attachment and possibly seen with suppressor. The May 24th trailer shows a brief scene of the [[TDI Vector#TDI Vector|TDI Vector]] being used with it's experimental 26 round magazine and possible Eotech Holographic sight.
[[Image:Krisssuperv.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[TDI Vector#TDI Vector|TDI Vector]] - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Moder warfare 2 kriss super v.jpg|thumb|350px|none|[[TDI Vector#TDI Vector|TDI Kriss Super V]] in game.]]

== [[M60]] ==

Seen in flashback to CoD4 during trailer.

== [[FN Minimi]] ==
[[Image:Fn_m249saw_mk2_10-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M249-E2 SAW - upgraded M249 with heat shield and full synthetic Stock - 5.56x45mm with 200 round ammo drum.]]
[[Image:MW2FNminimi.png|thumb|none|400px|Fn Minimi machine gun held by a russian terrorist. It seems to be a M249 SAW.]]

== [[RPD Light Machine Gun]] ==
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPD Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:ModernWarfare2-Screenshot1-1920x1200.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian special force with a RPD machine gun.]]

== [[Winchester 1300|Winchester 1200]] ==
Seen by use of the Russian Riot Police in the trailer
[[Image:WinM1200.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Heavily Modified Winchester 1200.]]
[[Image:MW2shotgun.png|thumb|none|400px|A russian internal troop with a Winchester 1200.]]

== [[Winchester Model 1887]] ==

Seen from screenshots wielded by russian ultranationalists.

== [[Armsel Striker and variants|Armsel Striker]] ==
Used by a terrorist assaulting a Russian airport, it seems to have a reflex sight.
[[Image:SWD-StreetSweeper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper 12-gauge.]]
[[Image:MW2Armsel.png|thumb|none|400px|A russian terrorist with an Armsel Striker type shotgun.]]

== [[SA-80]] or [[SA-85]] ==
Seen in the E3 gameplay demo as an Icon, mistakenly labeled as an "AUG HBAR" , or maybe it was the icon image that was misplaced.
[[Image:Sal8.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SA80 5.56mm]]

== [[FN P90#P90TR|FN P90TR]] ==
The [[FN P90#P90TR|FN P90TR]] weapon pickup symbol can be seen near a destoyed Mig on Mission "Cliffhangar".
[[Image:P90TR.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[FN P90#P90TR|FN P90TR]]]]
[[Image:MW2P90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The [[FN P90#P90TR|FN P90TR]] weapon pickup symbol can be seen near a destoyed Mig on Mission "Cliffhangar".]]

== [[SPAS 12]] ==
[[Image:SPAS12.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12-gauge with optional screw-on choke]]
[[Image:MW2SPAS12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

== [[SVD Dragunov|Dragunov SVD]] ==
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SVD Dragunov sniper rifle - 7.6x54mm R]]
[[Image:2hMD.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Brazilian militia with a SVD sniper rifle.]]

== [[Walther WA2000]] ==

Definite, seen with sniper scope.

== [[M1911 pistol series#Springfield Armory M1911|Springfield Armory Professional 1911]] ==
It is possible and most likely that this is the same pistol given to Soap by Captain Price in the 1st game.
[[Image:SAProTac.jpg|thumb|360px|none|Springfield Armory Pro Tactical, this is an airsoft replica of the real model]]
[[Image:MW2Soap.jpg|thumb|360px|none|Captain "Soap" MacTavish climbing up the ice with a 1911 pistol. He also has a M14 EBR that's noted in the screenshot above.]]

== [[Glock]] ==
The GameTrailers Analysis states that it is a [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22]], but this is unconfirmed. It could be a [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] since in the video demo shown at the E3 conference, it fires fully automatically.
[[Image:Glock18c_01-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] - 9x19mm. This model has compensator cuts on the slide and barrel to reduce muzzle climb while firing]]
[[Image:MW2Glock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A [[Glock]] fired by "Roach" on a snowmobile in Mission "Cliffhangar". Note olive-drab frame.]]
[[Image:MW2SpOpsM4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|This U.S.S.F. has a olive-drab framed Glock in his thigh holster (barely off-shot). Also note M4 Carbine.]]

*An interesting note is that the Glock fires dramatically slower than a Glock 18 or other converted Glocks. The Glock from the video's rate of fire is only around 600-700 RPM, where as a real Automatic Glock fires around 1100+ RPM -- Mythekal

:The guy COULD just be firing in semi VERY fast so that it seems like it's full auto. A lot of the handguns in COD4 if you tap the trigger in quick successions, it seems almost full auto [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

::Who ever put the screenshot on the page forgot to remind that the frame color is (tan) "Olive Drab". Glock 18's did not have this color available. Glock 22's just came out with this color somewhere in 2008. Of course I still wouldn't rule out it could be a Glock 18 with a replaced frame. But the writers probably wanted to put a new FBI (.40S&W) caliber into their Video Game arsenal.

== [[Heckler & Koch USP|H&K USP .45]] ==
Shown in a stage demo for GameSpot, Roach wields it with a knife at the same time. There is a similar technique where you do this with a flashlight. If someone would care to name it please do as I forgot for the moment.

*Take your pick from CQC, CQB, Combatives or Defendu. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 11:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
** The particular technique shown below with the support arm under the wrist of the main arm indexing the flashlight along the axis of the barrel is called the Harris Method. In this case it's being done with a knife presumably because it looks cool.
*** It's actually done for CQC and not just cause it looks cool. A similar method to this is what Snake does on MGS.But he holds the Knife with the gun by the grips.Perhaps the Harris method is more comfortable than Snake's CQC method,so they made it that way.
**** ''Harries'' technique, not Harris. It's used to level a flashlight and a gun at the same time. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch USP .45 ACP. Note the slightly longer barrel/slide and grip compared to the 9mm and .40 S&W models above.]]
[[Image:USP_with_knife.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

== IMI Desert Eagle ==

In one scene of the new trailer, presumably a secondary bad guy carries a Jericho 941 Handgun with a laser aiming module attached it. It's hard to say as to whether this is a Jericho or a [[Desert Eagle]], however it appears to be too small to be a [[Desert Eagle]]. He quickly shoots two agents in a quick draw at point blank before shooting at a USSF member sitting in a car.
[[Image:DesertEagle50AE.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Desert Eagle Mark XIX - .50 AE Chrome Silver]]
[[Image:Modern warfare 2 deagle.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|A little blurry but it is a desert eagle.]]
[[Image:MW2Brazilpistol2.png|thumb|350px|none|A Brazilian militant aims and fires a Desert Eagle in the trailer.]]
[[Image:Moder warfare 2 deagle 2.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|A bigger picture and a clear look at the laser module.]]
Confirmed as a Desert Eagle.

== [[M203 grenade launcher]] ==
[[Image:M203.jpg|thumb|none|362px|M203 grenade launcher 40mm]]

== [[M67 hand grenade]] ==
[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|250px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade. The real live version has a more brownish color and has painted factory markings on the body.]]
[[Image:MW2TR2.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Brazilian militia with a M67 fragmentation grenade on his chest.]]

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