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Talk:The Terminator (1984)

2012-03-15T17:34:03Z

Kylljoi:

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=Additional Weapons/Sections=

== Pipe Bomb ==
While at the motel, Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor can be seen assembling pipe bombs from components Reese purchased during a shopping trip. These bombs are then later used during the final car chase of the film with Reese throwing pipe bombs out the window of the commandeered pickup, trying to hit the Terminator pursuing them on a motorcycle, though he fails to score a hit. One pipe bomb is later used to blow up the tanker truck the Terminator hijacks, and the last one is used to blow off the Terminator's lower body, fragments from the blast killing an already-wounded Reese and injuring Sarah Connor.

[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-70.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kyle teaches Sarah how to assemble a Pipe Bomb.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-71.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The row of completed Pipe Bombs lie on a dresser.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-1.12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kyle Reese tosses a lit bomb at the pursuing Terminator.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-7.11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of one of the pipe bombs placed in a tanker's storage pipe for a fuel hose.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-11.11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator is blown apart after Reese places a pipe bomb in his abdomen. Interesting note: In the story, the endoskeleton is supposed to be blown in two (with one half continuing to pursue Sarah), but the prop endoskeleton is clearly obliterated in this shot. The severed head is visible flying off, though it is 'reattached' later when chasing Sarah.]]
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=Discussion=

==Not a T-600==

On screen the Series 600 Terminators were shown for the first time only in Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles TV-show. They had a visibly unnatural latex skin. An alternate bulkier and damaged version was shown later in Terminator: Salvation. The terminator with RSB in The Terminator is a T-800, just like the one played by Schwarzenegger. Fixed it. [[User:Kylljoi|Kylljoi]] 12:34, 15 March 2012 (CDT)

==Sound Effects==
:''It seems, with the recent DVD releases of this movie, they remastered the sound as well. Though I've yet to see the police station shootout scene in full, there are several points where I've done double takes trying to reconcile watching it now with my childhood memories of VHS.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 03:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
::I noticed that too. I own the VHS and when I saw it on TV, they used better gunshots and got rid of all the ricocheting sounds. I didn't really mind too much though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

- I actually preferred the original (VHS) sound effects, though in some parts the new sounds are somewhat better. They still didn't fix the screwed up effects during the police station shootout where the SPAS sounds like the AR-18 though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I can't begin to tell you how irked I was at the remastered edition for changing the sound of the gunfire. Suddenly all the pistols sound like a silencer is used on them? I'm just thankful the DVD has the original audio as an option. [[User:Ballistics_Expert2|Ballistics_Expert2]]

I thought originally the sound effects were right in the police station and then it was screwed up in the remaster. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:10, 10 June 2011 (CDT)

==Laser Sight==
I always wondered why the Terminator needed a laser sight on his gun, besides making it look really cool.
:It was new technology at the time, and director James Cameron wanted the visual impact of the red dot glowing on Linda Hamilton's forehead. Prior to the early 1980s there were few scenes of Laser dot sighting systems, of course, NOW they are a cliche, but back then they were fresh. MPM2008

Of course, no Terminator would need a laser sight.
PLUS no Terminator would ever miss, not to mention waste 9mm ammo with an Uzi, like in the scene at the "tech-noir" club.
But on the other hand, it's just a movie. --[[User:Lastgunslinger|Lastgunslinger]] 18:14, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

*He's a robot, not a wizard. You think no computerised system has ever missed? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 13:05, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

For those of you who want to know more about how the laser sight and gun were designed, I found an article where they a few guys at the Game Developer Conference (2010) talk to the person who designed and built the gun. This is a bit redundant due to the link on the main page already, but I believe it gives more background info. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/just-what-you-see-the-story-behind-the-45-long-slide-laser-siting.ars --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Uzi ==
I have read in a biography of Arnold that the Uzi used in the film was borrowed from a federal agency as they were the only ones with full auto Uzi's in those days. Would anyone care to confirm that information? [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]
:Baloney. Federal Agency Uzis would NOT be "Hollywood blank adapted", i.e. barrel tapped and a BFA screwed into the barrel interior for hot movie blanks. I've seen Federal Law enforcement train sometimes with commercial 'weak' blanks, and I've seen those military 9mm blanks, but they're nothing close to full flash movie blanks. Also military and Law enforcement tend to use external 'attachable' blank firing adaptors so that the weapon can be quickly rendered back into active service. Also the film was made in 1984. The movie industry had no problem getting Uzis by that time. The Movie [[Stripes]] shot in 1980, released in 1981 has MAC-10s disguised as Uzis and some legitimate Uzis as well. MPM2008
::Actually the weapon Arnie used was directly provided by Action Arms which, at the time, was the primary provider of the full auto Uzi, and its' semi-auto siblings, during the 80s in the US. In addition, and if memory serves, Schwarzenegger was presented with an Uzi by the owner of Action Arms after the success of the film. Action Arms also provided him with the training in the weapon's use and maintenance. A clearer history can be found here.

::http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/actionarms.htm

::Part way down, and next to a pic of Mitch Kalter, AA's spokesperson at the time, is a summary of the Uzi's use in the film. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 09:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

==Pipe bomb pics==
Uzi870, despite the practices of some of the other users, it is not necessary to put so many pics of the pipe bombs, especially shots where we don't see the actual weapon, but only the aftermath. At this point it is just RETELLING the movie rather than identifying the weapon. As an admin I tend to delete images which belabor the point and don't even show the weapons in the section. Please try to use some discipline when doing screenshots. Pipe bombs, like IEDs, are not standard enough weapons to merit a page on the gun category, and no viewer would 'wonder what make and model' pipe bomb was used. Thanks. MPM2008

== Comment ==
I agree about the G3 being a good choice. If someone were to put one into the Terminator's head they could maybe kill it.- S&Wshooter

: I think most of the guns the rebels use in the terminator movies could destroy terminators.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Unless the G3 was supposed to be some sort of plasma rifle, it would serve little purpose other than to chase off unwanted survivors.

Well in Terminator Salvation we see that the T-600s are vulnerable to 7.62mm rounds as Connor kills one with an M60 and another shoots it's own leg off with a Minigun. Hell in the opening scene, John puts one down point blank with 5.56mm rounds, which do nothing against the T-800 later in the film, or the one from the first film.

:In Salvation, the T-600 he put down point blank with 5.56mm rounds was already damaged. Since it was pinned down by the Huey he could get a straight shot right where the CPU was located. The one he shot with the M60 it's legs where gone, but otherwise functional. The T-800 at the end of the film, maybe it had better steel? But it was most likely for dramatic effect, the rounds having no effect. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::The T-600s are primitive compared to the later Terminators, and their cybernetic cortex is actually exposed to damage, which is a design flaw Skynet later corrected. And T-800s are made of "hyperalloy," not steel - what hyperalloy is depends on the terminator in question; earlier models were made of titanium alloy, with later models are supposed to be constructed of coltan, which doesn't make sense since a) coltan is black, while terminators are very shiny like chromed steel, and b) coltan is an ore, not an alloy, from which one can extract niobium and tantalum. Kyle Reese describes the T-800 as being "fully armored" and "very tough;" T-800s are regularly demonstrated completely shrugging off small arms fire. It's not so much that the T-800 was suddenly invincible for dramatic effect, since three movies (along with video games and comics and novels and so on) have demonstrated that most small arms do little to the infiltrator cyborgs beyond slowing them down. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 11:42, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Poorly trained police officers ==

Sarah Conner was shown body armour in the police station. But when the Terminator began his killing spree, police officers were seen passing out M16A1 assault rifles but no body armour. Why's that??
::Also you're assessing their police tactics with what police do ... TODAY. Heavy duty body armor was NOT common practice back in the day. And in the early 1980s many cops had only the lightweight Threat level II undershirt vests and only at certain times. The 1980s and 1990s changed A LOT of police tactics (some for the better, some for the worse (like how they treat suspects even if they are cooperating))[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

It was unexpected attack so they only had time to grab rifle. by the time they got the vests on it wouldn't matter becuse the terminator would have find. the body armor police have are probably not military grade so they wont stop round form the AR-18.

:The body armor that Lt. Traxler gave Sarah looked pretty good. It didn't look like it was handgun rated only. He did commented in the film that "it will stop a 12 gauge round", he didn't say anything about rifles though. But as the second poster said it was an unexpected attack, I mean who attacks a police station? Only the terminator. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I also recalled that there were 30 police officers in the station and that 17 of them were murdered by the Terminator, were the rest of the officers were hiding throughout the entire killing spree??
:The other 13 may have just been wounded. Det. Vukovich showed up in an early draft of T3, wheelchair-bound. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 21:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out.

Something that always bothered me was how Traxler and Vukovich talked about Body Armor but
were apparently killed by the Terminator. I assumed they were wearing it under their shirts.

In a Deleted Scene, Traxler briefly survived his wounds and handed a 6 shooter to Reese.
And as Noted above, Vukovich was to survive his wounds too but was bound to a wheelchair.

Though I suppose the writers thought it was a little far-fetched, considering he received some 5.56 rounds and some 12 gauge buckshot from the Terminator.

==Trigger Discipline==

In the screenshot in which Kyle is playfully aiming his Valmet M82A at a child, shouldn't it be mentioned that he still has his finger on the trigger? [[Special:Contributions/193.1.104.2|193.1.104.2]] 02:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:No, http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Rules%2C_Standards_and_Principles#No_sarcastic_or_insulting_Commentary Also in the screenshot where he does it, I'm not sure if the gun goes up any further. If that's the case he's pointing at the floor, the weapon could be on safe too.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 10:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bullets on the counter at gunstores ==

I went to my local Cabela's and apparently they started to put SOME, like small stacks of pistol ammo on the counters now [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Never understood why the Terminator bothered to load the weapon at all while the gunshop owner just stood there protesting like a nimrod. The thing is freakishly strong (I wonder why it didn't cart off the gigantic anti-tank rifle... maybe they don't keep 20x138mm shells in stock...) and could have just punched him in the head and it would have been fatal. Hell, it could have just crushed his windpipe - Terminators don't seem to care about being very subtle anyway. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 11:47, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

::Quite likely the Terminator wasn't loading the shotgun to specifically kill the store owner - after all it doesn't eliminate everything it sees - but rather to have its newfound arsenal immediately ready for action. Only after the store owner protests said action does he become a perceived threat to the mission, conveniently neutralized with the now-loaded shotgun already in its hands. -- Fin- 14:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

:::Or he just wanted to be sure it worked. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 03:02, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

== Police Station Attack ==

The Terminator is shot by Police and sometimes reacts to the shots by flinching slightly, probably the bullet impacts. However, He doesnt respond at all to the M16 fire by Traxler and Vukovich. '''Would the .38 Special be more powerful than a 5.56mm?'''

simply said...No. A .38 spcl only have about 200 foot pounds of energy and the 5.56 has 1,300 foot pounds of energy.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:39, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

==Story incongruencies==
Anyone else note how the short bit of story on the cover doesn't match completely up with the in movie story? The bit on the cover makes it seem like humans in the future thought John Connor a threat and therefore created the Terminator for the sole reason of going back in time to kill Sarah Connor. [[User:T.H.M.Christensen|T.H.M.Christensen]] 01:10, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

In terms of story,the Rulers in question are the machines. [[Special:Contributions/24.15.51.1|24.15.51.1]] 01:19, 29
December 2010 (UTC)

*Also bear in mind that the people who write the tagline haven't necessarily seen the movie. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 12:26, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

== Gun Store ==

In the Gun Store, The Terminator is looking down at something when naming his Guns, probably a Catalogue? I just wondered why The Terminator would pick the AMT Hardballer with a Long Slide and Laser Sight? Surely The Terminator could calculate the angle of his arm and shoot on target from the hip, right?

I remember reading something similar to this somewhere. Basically, it was answered in the fact that the Terminator will take any advantage he can get. If, without the laser, he's accurate 99% of the time, but with the laster he's accurate 99.1% of the time, that's what he'll use. Also, it could be possible that simply putting the laser on the target is faster than calculating the angle. -SasquatchJim

*This assumes the Terminator is actually designed to use ballistic weaponry even though Skynet's standard issue weapon for them is a line-of-sight energy gun. A fire control computer isn't much use if it doesn't have data for the weapon in it already, and the laser as an aiming aid would mean he didn't have to waste time firing off rounds at a wall to calculate the trajectories as a baseline. One imagines he's gathering practical data on any given weapon while he's using it. A lot of people assume Terminators are ''magic'', but they don't really show any super-human aiming skills aside from the T-101 in ''T2'' deliberately not killing anyone with the M79 and minigun. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 03:00, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

Or maybe because lasers were not well known of at the time they wanted something cool and futuristic looking? Also it helps build up the tension in the Tech Noir scene where you see the laser dot on Sarah's head. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 16:23, 3 April 2011 (CDT)

== HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE SPOILER ==

The last image on the page (pipe bomb section) is an awesome spoiler. I really think it should be removed. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 15:54, 9 June 2011 (CDT)
:And it doesn't actually show the pipe bomb, which you can argue doesn't belong on the page anyway. The code is below. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:03, 9 June 2011 (CDT)

== RSB-80 ==

Given its size relative to the gunner and Franco Columbu (one of Arnold's body-building buddies) the RSB-80 looks more like an [[Browning_M2#Browning_M2_Aircraft | M2 Aircraft]]. Anyone mind if I change it? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:06, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
:Franco is only 5'-5". But looking at the screenshot, it appears to have spade grips, which the 1919 doesn't have. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:19, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
::You can get after market modification to give the M1919 spade grips, and there was also the flexible mount aircraft version that had spade grips, which is confusingly called the AN/M2. I don't think it is an M2, as the actual receiver of the gun is only about as long as his forearm, it just has a very thick and long barrel shroud. Also, from the way he is swinging it around so quickly and accurately I would be very surprised if it was an M2HB, no matter how strong he is. Im not 100% it is a real gun, as I don't think it is actually firing in the scene: no cases are ejected and when he pushed the trigger there is absolutely zero recoil. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:51, 31 October 2011 (CDT)

I'm offering Chuck Bronson as a comparison. Chuck is listed on IMDB as 5'10". Franco is listed at 5'5". It still looks substantially bigger, IMHO. Columbu had been Mr. Universe two years prior to filming, so I think he could've pulled it off. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 17:49, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:DW419196.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Charles Bronson with an M1919.]]
[[Image:T1_Bunker.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Franco Columbu with the RSB-80.]]

To me the only size difference appears to be the barrel in those screenshots, so they could have just put a barrel extension. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 02:04, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

:To my eye the reciever looks a fair bit larger compared to Columbu's torso than the M1919 looks compared to Bronson's. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:15, 1 November 2011 (CDT)
::And Columbu would have a larger torso as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 09:56, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

More shots:

[[Image:T1-HMG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:T1-HMG-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
Is that a cocking handle? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 09:56, 1 November 2011 (CDT)
:No, that's the underside. Looks more like a pintle rod. There's a big cocking handle on the right-hand side, you can see it in the image above. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:11, 1 November 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:T1-HMG-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:T1-HMG-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

You can see some flashes that don't look added coming from the muzzle (as in that first shot), but I think it's probably just a "gas gun" rather than actually firing blanks. He's really just waving it around and shaking it slightly to act like the recoil is affecting him, it's very obvious the gun itself isn't doing a lot. Also, watching that scene a lot of times has made me spot another Uzi. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:47, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

:Incidentally, going back through the history an older ID was that it might be a Vickers gun. Fairly sure the barrel is in the wrong place for that, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:26, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

The Terminator (1984)

2012-03-15T17:31:28Z

Kylljoi:

[[Image:Terminator_Poster.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''The Terminator'' (1984)]]
''The Terminator'' is the 1984 science fiction film directed by [[James Cameron]] that stars [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as a killer cyborg sent by machines from the future with the sole mission of killing the woman who will give birth to the leader of the future human resistance. Arnold Schwarzenegger would reprise the role in the sequels ''[[Terminator 2: Judgment Day]]'' (1991) and ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]'' (2004) and as well as appear via CGI in 2009's ''[[Terminator Salvation]]''.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''The Terminator'':'''
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=Handguns=
== AMT Hardballer .45 Longslide ==

The Terminator ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) acquires an [[M1911 pistol series#AMT Hardballer|AMT Hardballer Longslide]] with a primitive laserlock sight (a one-off made by someone from a company that would later become SureFire) in addition to several other weapons from a gunshop shortly after his arrival from 2029. He first uses it to terminate two women from a phone book who share the name Sarah Connor. When he arrives at the real Connor's ([[Linda Hamilton]]) apartment, he is seen with it when confronting her roommate, Ginger Ventura (Bess Motta). Upon tracking Sarah to the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator loses this weapon when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) intervenes in the attempted termination, at which point he switches to his [[IMI Uzi]].

[[Image:ED 45.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AMT Hardballer Longslide with laserlock sight as used in the film - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator inspects the .45 in the gunshop.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of the laserlock sight.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Terminator inspecting the gun.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-18.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator aims the .45 at Ginger's (Bess Motta) answering machine.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator reloads his .45.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-21.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator sets the .45 down as he looks for Sarah's address book.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator aims his .45 at Sarah's head seconds before being stopped by Kyle Reese.]]
[[Image:Longslide2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In 1984, laser sights were rare, and required a high level of power. This helium neon laser needed 10,000 volts to turn on, and a further 1,000 volts to maintain its brightness. The cables were run up Arnold's arm to a battery that was in his M65 field jacket. The laser was activated by his other hand.]]

== Smith & Wesson Model 15 ==
After Kyle and Sarah are apprehended by the police later on, several officers can be seen holding [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]]s. Several officers also use [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] when the Terminator raids the police station. A nickel-plated [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] is also seen being wielded by the Terminator when he runs out of ammunition for his AR-18 during the car chase at the end.
[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-44.jpg‎|thumb|none|601px|An officer fires a Model 15 during the Terminator's attack on the police station.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-5(1).jpg‎|thumb|none|601px|The Terminator fires a nickel-plated Model 15 (obtained at the gun shop - The revolver is sitting on the counter, you can see it after the terminator requests the .45 with laser sighting), during the film's final car chase.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==
A detective is seen dropping what appears to be a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] when Reese knocks him out during the Terminator's assault on the police station.
[[File:S&W 36.jpg|thumb|none|320px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[File:Term1 437.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A detective is seen dropping what appears to be a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] when Reese knocks him out during the Terminator's assault on the police station.]]

== Colt Trooper ==
Soon after arriving in the present, Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) grabs a [[Colt Trooper]] from a police officer and holds him at gunpoint while demanding to be told the current date, then flees into a nearby department store when more police arrive. In that scene, the revolver resembles more closely a Smith & Wesson model 15 "Combat Masterpiece", as the typical S&W thumbpiece can be seen. On a S&W it has to be pushed forward rather than pushed backwards to unlock the cylinder, as is the case with a Colt double-action revolver.

[[Image:Colt Trooper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Trooper - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-0.jpg‎ |thumb|none|601px|"What day is it? The date!" Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) holds the Colt Trooper on a police officer when he asks what year it is.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-1.jpg‎|thumb|none|601px|Kyle peeks out of a photo booth with a Trooper in hand.]]

== Colt Python ==
A [[Colt Python]] is seen in the hands of a police officer that searches the patrol car that the Terminator abandoned.
[[Image:Colt-Python.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Python - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-43.jpg‎|thumb|none|601px|A police officer searches the Terminator's patrol car with a Colt Python in hand.]]

== Ruger Security Six ==
In a deleted scene, a gravely wounded Lt. Traxler ([[Paul Winfield]]) gives Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) a snubnose [[Ruger Security Six]] as he and Sarah Connor ([[Linda Hamilton]]) escape the police station. In another deleted scene, Kyle instinctively aims this revolver at Sarah when the two get into a tense confrontation. Later, at the Tiki motel, Kyle gives it to Sarah when he leaves to buy supplies. At the end of the film, Sarah carries a full size stainless Ruger Security Six on her lap as she rides through the Mexican desert.
[[File:RugerSecuritySixBlue.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger Security Six - .357 Magnum / .38 Special. Note adjustable rear sights.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEB-0.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Lt. Traxler gives Kyle his Ruger Security Six in a deleted scene.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEB-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kyle pulls the Ruger Security Six on Sarah in another deleted scene.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-69.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Sarah inspects the Ruger Security Six in the motel room.]]
[[Image:Ruger_Sec_6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Ruger Security Six w/ 4 inch barrel - .357 Magnum,]]
[[Image:TERMSE SIDEA-6.6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Sarah's full size stainless Ruger Security Six lies on her lap. Note that revolver appears to be unloaded.]]

=Submachine Guns=
== IMI Uzi ==

Another weapon the Terminator acquires from the Gun Shop at the start of the film is an [[IMI Uzi]]. His purchasing of this is rather unrealistic, since civilian semi-auto Uzi carbines were always sold with a 16" barrel per legal requirements. A short dummy barrel was sometimes installed to entice buyers; the gun sold here, however, is just a regular open-bolt Uzi. James Cameron mentioned in the magazine "Soldier of Fortune" that he assumed that in story terms the Terminator had converted the Uzi and the AR-180 into full auto weapons in his hotel room. The Terminator uses the Uzi mainly in the Tech Noir nightclub, when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) interferes with his attempts to terminate Sarah Connor ([[Linda Hamilton]]). After losing his .45, the Terminator unloads several rounds at the nightclub, killing quite a few innocent bystanders, but fails to hit Sarah, or Kyle. He loses the weapon when Kyle uses his Ithaca to blast him out of the club's window. Another Uzi with a wooden stock is very briefly seen as Kyle Reese remembers the "Skin Job" Terminator attacking his Resistance base.

[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|500px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gunshop owner ([[Dick Miller]]) retrieves the Uzi from a shelf. Note that the short barrel is installed, which if live would not be legal to sell over the counter, even in 1984.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator whips out his Uzi at the Tech Noir night club. Though in the story, the Terminator 'converts' an over-the-counter semi-automatic Uzi Carbine, the weapon used by the film's armorers was an open bolt select fire Uzi. They wouldn't convert a Carbine (and pay the ATF tax stamp) just for the sake of the film, when they could use existing full auto Uzi Submachine guns from Movie Armory inventories.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-24.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator fires his Uzi at Kyle Reese.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-29.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator fires his Uzi at Sarah Connor.]]
[[Image:Uzi-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|IMI Uzi with detachable wooden buttstock - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:T1-ResistanceUzi.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Visible only for an instant as the Terminator attacks the Resistance base in the future is this Uzi with a full wooden stock.]]

=Shotguns=
== SPAS-12 ==
The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun is another firearm used by the Terminator. The Terminator first is seen with the shotgun in the gun store and then is one of the two weapons he uses during the assault on the police station. A SPAS-12 is also seen in the hands of a human Resistance fighter in one of the "Future War" flashbacks. The SPAS-12's top folding stock was removed by the Terminator before the attack at the police station, presumably since a Terminator would not need the stock for recoil or stability. Schwarzenegger fired the SPAS-12 with one hand, displaying the 'strength' of the Cyborg.
[[Image:SPAS12.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Miscte4-1-.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The Terminator inspects the SPAS 12 at the gun store.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-6.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Another shot of the Terminator inspecting his SPAS 12. Note that the factory top folding stock (now extended) is on the shotgun.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-7.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|''"Hey, you can't do that..."'' The Terminator loads a live 12 gauge shell into the chamber.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-8.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|''"Wrong."'' The Terminator kills the gun store owner (Dick Miller). In reality, very few gun stores keep live ammunition within reach of a customer on the counter top. Some stores might have crates of ammunition for sales or special deals on the floor, but gun store employees would pull their own sidearms on any customer who grabbed a box of ammo and had a live weapon in their hands at the same time.]]
[[Image:FSpas12orign.jpg|thumb|550px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 combat shotgun with no stock – 12 gauge]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-47.jpg‎|thumb|601px|none|The Terminator keeps his SPAS 12 at the ready in the police station.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-53.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|The Terminator fires the SPAS 12 with one hand.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-60.jpg‎|thumb|601px|none|The Terminator leans the SPAS 12 on his shoulder as he leaves the police station.]]

== Ithaca 37 (Extended Magazine Tube with Sawed Off stock) ==
Upon arriving in present day Los Angeles, Reese procures an [[Ithaca 37#Ithaca 37|Ithaca 37]] shotgun from an unattended police car. In addition to having a high-capacity magazine tube, Reese saws off part of the stock to give it a pistol grip instead, making it easier to conceal under his trenchcoat. He is also seen attaching it to himself with a piece of rope (a reference is made to this in 2009's ''[[Terminator Salvation]]''). Reese notably uses it against the Terminator in the Tech Noir nightclub shootout, and the ensuing car chase after he and Sarah escape the car garage. Between acquiring the Ithaca and discharging it for the first time in the night club, Reese pumps the handle three times. First when he saws off the stock, again when he wakes up from his nightmare and for the third time just before shooting the Terminator at the night club. Not a single time is a shell ejected from the extraction port, which suggests Reese unloaded it prior to sawing off the stock, and only loaded it before he entered the night club. In a continuity error, an Ithaca without the extended mag tube is seen being held by Reese in the shootout.
[[Image:IthacaExtMagTub.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Full-stocked Ithaca 37 with extended magazine tube - 12 gauge. The one in the film has a sawed-off stock.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-0.1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kyle steals the Ithaca 37 from an unattended police cruiser.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kyle retreats from the alley with his Ithaca 37.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-11.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kyle saws off his Ithaca 37's stock.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-12.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kyle wraps a string around the Ithaca's sawed down grip.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kyle pumps his Ithaca 37.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-31.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kyle crouches with a 4-shot Ithaca 37 in a continuity error. Though still an Ithaca 37, this is a standard police model, with the 4 shot magazine tube and blade front sight.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-35.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kyle fires his Ithaca 37 at the Tech Noir nightclub.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-38.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kyle fires his Ithaca 37 during the car chase with the Terminator.]]

==Ithaca 37==
Following the skirmish at the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator acquires his own [[Ithaca 37]]. The model used by the Terminator is the standard police model with a full stock, and 4-shot magazine. He keeps it with him while he stalks Kyle and Sarah in the multi-story parking garage. He then uses it to exchange fire with Kyle in the ensuing chase. During the police station massacre, a few cops can be seen with [[Ithaca 37]]s.
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Ithaca 37 standard police model - 12 gauge. Used by several police officers, the Terminator, and Kyle (in a continuity error).]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-36.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Terminator acquires an Ithaca 37.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-40.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Terminator fires his Ithaca 37. Note the Terminator's lack of eyebrows due to them being burned off prior.]]
[[File:Term1 428.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the police station massacre, a few cops can be seen with [[Ithaca 37]]s.]]

=Rifles=
== AR-18 ==
Yet another of the Terminator's guns is an [[Armalite AR-18|Armalite AR-18]] assault rifle. The gun is used with the stock removed (like the SPAS-12) and with two magazines taped together in a 'jungle style' configuration. He uses it primarily during the assault on the police station and during the car chase following the motel scene. The script refers to the rifle as an AR-18 and it is shown as such in the movie, though rather obviously a California gun store in 1984 would never sell a fully automatic rifle over the counter. The Terminator novel excuses this by stating the T-800 instead took a civilian AR-180 semi-automatic rifle and converted it to full-auto using tools stolen from a hardware store earlier in the day.

[[Image:Terminator-AR18.png|thumb|none|600px|A transferable fully automatic Armalite AR-18 as used in ''Terminator'' - 5.56x45mm. This is the actual prop weapon used in the movie.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-1.1.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|The Terminator inspects the AR-18 at the gunshop.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-50.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|The Terminator fires his AR-18.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-54.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|The Terminator reloads his AR-18.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-66.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|The Terminator holds his AR-18 at the ready as he leaves his motel room to find Kyle and Sarah.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-72.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|The Terminator kicks in the door and fires into Sarah and Kyle's room at the Tiki Motel.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-73.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|The AR-18 slides off the roof of Kyle and Sarah's truck after they hit the Terminator.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-14.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|The Terminator fires his AR-18 during the car chase in the tunnel.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3(1).jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|The Terminator tosses the AR-18 when it runs dry.]]

== M16A1 ==
During the assault on the police station by the Terminator, several police officers head to the armory and begin passing out [[M16 | M16A1]] rifles with 20-round magazines. Lt. Edward Traxler ([[Paul Winfield]]) is seen with an M16A1 and uses the rifle to shoot the Terminator in the back (which resulted in the Terminator turning around with his own AR-18 rifle). Detective Hal Vukovich ([[Lance Henriksen]]) opens up on the Terminator with one after finding Traxler wounded by the cyborg. The Terminator returns fire with both the AR-18 and SPAS-12.
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-48.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Traxler, Vukovich, and a few other officers prep their M16A1s.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-55.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Traxler fires his M16 before being gunned down.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-57.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Vukovich holds his M16 as he checks an injured Traxler.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-58.jpg|thumb|none|601px|''"Hey!!!"'' Vukovich returns fire with his M16.]]

==Heckler & Koch G3A3==
A number of [[Heckler & Koch G3]] rifles can be seen in the hands of human resistance fighters responsible for guarding a human bunker in 2029, fitted with the wide handguard and the G3's proprietary bipod. This makes sense, as a 7.62mm battle rifle would be a logical choice against heavily armoured enemies. A number of the G3's civilian cousin, the HK91 rifle can be seen on the gun racks at the Alamo Gun Store in 1984.

[[Image:G3a3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heckler & Koch G3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-5.5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Resistance fighter aims his G3 (with folding-bipod handguard) at the stronghold peephole before allowing Reese to enter.]]
[[Image:T1-ResistanceRifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another Resistance member holds his rifle as the Terminator attacks.]]

==Valmet M82A ==

A [[Valmet M82|Valmet M82A]] is used as Kyle Reese's plasma gun in the future war scenes. This Valmet M82A moved the front sight to the body of the rifle rather than the barrel versus the M82. An interesting trivia note is that Kyle's appearance in these scenes was the inspiration for the cover art of the first ''[[Metal Gear]]'' game.

[[Image:ValmetM82AModified.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Valmet M82A Bullpup assault rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:T1-set-michael-015-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A production image of Reese with his "plasma gun" which is really a Valmet M82. Note lack of magazine.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kyle crouches with his Valmet M82.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-4.2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kyle descends the stairs of a resistance compound with his M82.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-61.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kyle scans a HK Fighter Plane through the scope of his M82.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-62.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kyle playfully aims his M82 at a child in the compound.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-65.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kyle fires his M82 at the Infiltrator Terminator.]]

=Machine Guns=
== Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun ==

[[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine guns are seen in the future war battle scene.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Browning M2HB in vehicle mounting - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:Captur10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A member of the human resistance mans a Browning M2HB heavy machine gun in the future. Note it has no spade grips and ammo belt]]
[[Image:T1-M2-Twin.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A twin M2 with a scope and various futuristic embellishments is seen inside the Resistance base as the "Skin Job" attacks.]]

=Other=

== Lahti L-39 ==
Amongst other miscellanous weapons in the Alamo Gun Store, a WW2 Finnish made [[Lahti L-39]] anti-tank rifle is on display.
[[Image:Lahti_with_PKM_for_size.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lahti L-39 (top) with a [[PK Machine Gun]] for scale - 20x138mmB]]
[[Image:Miscte4-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A 20mm Lahti L-39 anti-tank rifle is seen in the background]]

=="General Dynamics RSB-80 plasma gun"==
A heavy gun is used by the Infiltrator Terminator (Franco Columbu) upon secretly entering the Resistance's underground bunker. This rapid-fire laser cannon was identified in the ''Terminator'' novelization as the "General Dynamics RSB-80 plasma gun". The weapon has a custom barrel shroud and appears to be mocked up from either a Maxim or Vickers machine gun. A similar cannon is also seen on the sunroof of the car driven by Reese while being chased by the Aerial HK.
[[Image:Term1 417.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The T-800 Infiltrator Terminator (Franco Columbu) fires the RSB-80.]]
[[Image:Term1 414.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 Bunker.JPG|thumb|none|601px|The T-800 makes its way deeper into the Resistance shelter, firing at anyone in its path.]]
[[Image:Term1 423.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 Sunroof.JPG|thumb|none|601px|A RSB-80 set atop a Resistance car's roof.]]
[[Image:Term1 404.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=See Also=

'''Terminator Series'''

* ''[[Terminator, The]]''
* ''[[Terminator 2: Judgment Day]]''
* ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]''
* ''[[Terminator Salvation]]''

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