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Talk:Fringe

2023-06-14T04:02:58Z

Krel: /* Observer's Pistol */

This page is my magnum opus, as it were, so HANDS OFF!
I'm kidding of course, but I would very much like to do it. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 11:34, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
::Though it is POLITE not to mess with people's pages when they've done 99% of the work, it happens. Just keep in mind IF the changes are good (i.e. correct spellings, added pertinent details, better images, etc.) then don't take it personally. I know it's hard. But on the flip side, you also have the right to UNDO BS additions to your page, like erroneous identifications, sarcastic comments, or people removing information unnecessarily. The end result is to create a page that is not an exercise in self indulgence (unfortunately some of our members do just that), but is a nice, concise, and informative page on the film/show which showcases the weapons information, weapons trivia as it relates to the show, and 'some' movie/show trivia that is peripherally associated with the weapons trivia. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I was kidding, don't worry. I'll try not to post a million billion pictures of the Glock 26, as much as I love it. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 21:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

:You did a good job and all, BUT...gun page links go in the body of the text, not the heading. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::I've seen it done both ways, but I wasn't sure. Thanks. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 21:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

:::Yeah, I've had to tell a lot of people to correct their pages...for precisely this reason. I don't want users on this site to think it's acceptable to use gun page links in the heading. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

In the episode where Agent Dunham is kidnapped and drugged, as she makes her escape, she grabs a pistol from one of the guards she defeats. I paused the video and stared at the image for a long time to try to ID it to no avail. Anyone got a screenshot of that?
:Im pretty sure the pistol she takes in that episode is a Walther P99

I removed the "Observer Pistols" segment, it honestly added nothing to the page. Sorry if it was your personal baby. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

why not have a segment on the "Observer Pistols" or other high tech guns? Rex095
:Mainly because they don't do much in the show, it's hard to tell what they are because they are rarely seen and mocked up, AND nobody has pictures, so why bother with the segment. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry for the edit-storm, adding stuff and trying to fix a lot of my previous errors. I added a couple of new Glock 26 shots, and removed some of the worse ones(all the ones I took out were ones I took, so don't worry about it.) Also: created some actor pages, and am working on gun pages. Any input, or images of that suppressed Desert Eagle from S2 episode "August" would be sweet. Thanks. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 04:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

why use a suppressed Desert Eagle? well in the world of the show, there are think that are hard to kill, Rex095
::Think about it this way: Anna Torv carries a Glock 26, because a Glock 17 looks massive when she holds it. Likewise, the assassin was a gigantic dude, and anything less than a Desert Eagle would look like a pop-gun when he was holding it, or carrying it in his holster. It was, almost certainly, not a decision about "what gun would work here" but rather "what gun is visually interesting here." --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 20:55, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

True True Rex095. the Desert Eagle is a visually strucking gun.

I wounder what would a be a good handgun for fighting paranormal threats. Rex095
:If you ask me, the show does a good job of having bad guys being tough, but not BS invincible. So, a Desert Eagle would be okay-ish. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 22:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking a .45 like a Para-Ordnance P-14 or a Heckler & Koch Mark 23, with a .44 Revolver as a back up. Rex095
:Heh, a Mark 23 is pretty much as big as a Desert Eagle. :D --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 21:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I did not know that. Desert Eagle has stopping power but not sere about practcalty. Rex095
:Let's see how your .44 does against a manticore! Another gigantic pistol, my man. Dunham has the right idea, a Glock 26 is a nice choice.

Is anybody gonna screencap season 1? If not I may start doing it. --[[Special:Contributions/70.27.5.22|70.27.5.22]] 01:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:I think most of season 1 HAS been screencapped. There really aren't a lot of firearms used in the show, mostly FBI glocks and the occasional exotic thing, and those have been cataloged.. Just make sure you don't replace shots or duplicate them(unless you have better images). Sound good? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 03:13, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
::Sure, Dunham uses a SIG in the pilot episode, I'll get some pisctures of that. I own Season 1 and can probably get better quality images than those on the page, should I replace them or leave them?--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 03:18, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh heck yeah, if you've got the DVD! I got my shots mostly off of Hulu(gag) so they don't look that good. I regrettably haven't even seen the pilot, or the first few episodes even, so if you can identify and screencap stuff, put it up! --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 20:38, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I may be bloating this page too much with screen caps. Anybody have any problem with all the shots?
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 22:17, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

==Seasons==

I'm thinking that since I'm screencapping all of Season 1 this page might get a bit bulky, with Season 2 screencaps up as well. We should make a separate page fore season 1 and 2.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 17:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Not really that much of a need if there weren't so many different images of the same person with the same gun. Now I think Anna Torv looks great wielding firearms as much as the next guy, but you don't need anymore than 1 or 2 per combo. Just my 2 cents though. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 04:10, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

==Shockwave Gun==
The info for this thing is that it is "based on a real gun". Can someone clarify what real gun this is based on? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
:I meant built around. Sorry for the confusion.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 20:50, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's definitely a Tippman A5 paintball marker, as it was pointed by Sheibei86. I'm adding it. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] ([[User talk:Kloga|talk]]) 12:40, 14 December 2013 (EST)
[[File:TippmannA-5.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Tippmann A-5 Paintball Marker - .62]]
[[Image:Fringe32.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The man's gun, kind of looks like a [[Heckler & Koch UMP]].]]

==Colours==

My VLC player fucked itself colourswise and turned everything blueish (you can see it in the last screencap of the Glock 17 section) so now all my screencaps are in full b&w.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 03:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

==Latest Episode==

Anyone have screencaps of the gun Olivia alternate used?
:Don't have screencaps, but it was a FN Five-Seven, the same gun was also used by her partner who got burned.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 21:50, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

[[Special:Contributions/70.118.116.239|70.118.116.239]]

::Did some screencaps of the latest episode, apparently the Five-seveN is used as a futuristic stand-in for what is referred to as the 'Model 76' and was canonically designed by William Bell. Bell also designed the 'Model 77' which is also an FN57 with a funky attachment on its rail. Anyone recognize the attachment? Something the prop department mocked up to look cool or something from the strange world of CAA catalogues? --[[User:Joffeloff|Joffeloff]] 18:51, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

It appears to be some kind of compensator/integral wrap-around slide cover; the thing on the bottom seems to be a subcompact Reflex sight mounted upside down with the lens removed, with some kind of metal insert in place instead of the lens. Either that, or it's a custom prop molded directly onto the rail. It's probably the latter.

Or maybe I just can't read guns from the front. Eh.

[[Special:Contributions/72.189.150.170|72.189.150.170]]

I think the Model 76 and the Model 77 would look similar because in the dialogue bell said the 77 will have improvements to the 76

--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 04:02, 14 June 2023 (UTC)==Observer's Pistol==

It looks like it IS the Detonics; the square trigger guard seems to make it a slam-dunk, based on the screencaps. It'd be nice to have a side-view, though. [[Special:Contributions/70.118.116.239|70.118.116.239]]

:Ya, too bad they don't give one in the episode.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 18:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi i was wondering what was Alt-Olivia's back up gun.
To me I think it is a dressed up Walther p99

or a Taurus Millennium Pro

It's an FN Herstal Five-seveN. It's hard to tell from the front (I had the same problem), but it is. You can tell because it looks huge in Torv's hands and because the Five-seveN is a typical stand-in for futuristic guns.

Although, I think a Steyr M9-A1 or an FN FNP45 would have made more sense. It's supposed to be like our world, but a little different, right? Well, the Steyr M9-A1 is from a company located in the same country as GLOCK, looks very similar, but handles totally different, has a different frame, and has triangular/trapezoidal sights (can you can any different from the GLOCK's square/blade stock sights?). The FN FNP45 also looks similar to other guns, but is unique. Both aren't very commonly used in films/TV shows, so if they did use either one, people would be thinking, "What IS that?"

:Its a Beretta Px4 Storm Subcompact, look at the hammer and the general shape of the gun.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 16:28, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

[[Special:Contributions/72.189.150.170|72.189.150.170]]

You can see it clearly in the shot where "our" Olivia is firing; that is not a PX4 Storm Subcompact, it's a full-size service weapon. For scale, compare the screen-shot with that of the one of the GLOCK 17 full-size service weapon used by Olivia. The one fired by both Captain Lee and Alter-Olivia are also pretty much dead-on for scale. It can't be the full-size PX4 Storm either, because the handgun has a very distinct front-slide taper that is only really seen on the Five-seveN. Plus, the Five-seveN is apparently the "go-to" gun for futuristic weaponry (used in Chuck as well, among others). I still think that the Steyr M9-A1 would be a better choice within the context, though. The Five-seveN could have been Bell's gun only (which also makes sense). But meh.[[Special:Contributions/72.189.150.170|72.189.150.170]]

::Ok, we're talking about her '''Back-up Gun''' not her service weapon, her service weapon is clearly and FN Five-seveN, however her BUG (seen only in her apartment) is definitely a Beretta Px4 Storm Subcompact.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 21:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

If you have a screencap, go ahead.

It is a resin copy of an FN Model 1910 with a muzzle cap, and no grip panels.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 04:02, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

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== Season 3 finale ==

In the season 3 finale "The Day We Died", Peter Bishop uses a full-sized Beretta Px4 Storm as his sidearm.

== Season 5 ==

We're missing some info about guns in season 5.

Many Observer Loyalist troops use P90 SMGs and F2000 assault rifles. A few Mossberg 500 cruisers are seen too. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 16:55, 21 January 2015 (EST)

Talk:The Satan Bug

2022-08-19T01:00:16Z

Krel: Created page with "I believe that the Luger is the modified Luger from "The Twilight Zone" episode "Death Ship" (1963).--~~~~"

I believe that the Luger is the modified Luger from "The Twilight Zone" episode "Death Ship" (1963).--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:00, 18 August 2022 (EDT)

Talk:The Adventures of Pluto Nash

2020-05-12T02:35:13Z

Krel: Created page with "The Snap Shot Guns web site has photos of some of the guns, and the pistols they were made from. These are the names the site uses. Pluto's pistol was made from a Taurus PT9..."

The Snap Shot Guns web site has photos of some of the guns, and the pistols they were made from. These are the names the site uses.

Pluto's pistol was made from a Taurus PT92. It was originally anodized blue, but would dissapear when used in front of the special effects blue screen. They made 2.

Rex's pistol was a CZ-75 with actual gold plating.

Flura Nash's pistol is a Beretta 92. They made 2.

Morgan's (Joe Pantoliano) pistol is a Walther P-38.

Kelp's pistol is a Beretta 92. They made 2.

Belcher's pistol is a Ruger P-93.

Security Robot's gun is a Feg AP-74. They built 3, including one with a laser in the grip bottom.

Auto Firing Tripod Thug gun is a Beretta 92.

Thug gun with a full slide covering is a Beretta 92. They built a few in various colors.

--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 22:35, 11 May 2020 (EDT)

Talk:The Spy Who Loved Me

2017-09-01T03:06:17Z

Krel: /* Unknown Q Branch rifle */

[[Image:Spywho.jpg|thumb|none|300px|DVD cover for ''The Spy Who Loved Me'' (1977)]]
== Jaws' revolver in the car chase ==

Does this pic help?

http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/movies/tswlm.php3

Last picture on the page.--[[User:TheHeartbreakKid15|TheHeartbreakKid15]] 17:44, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

::Please also take into account Richard's hands are HUGE. I just shook the man's hands not ten hours ago ;) And they're gigantic! :) His hands are the only ones where a Desert Eagle .50 or a Mod 29 look tiny. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:49, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

No way! You met Richard Kiel?! Ugh, so jealous right now. My major claims to fame so far are working with Russell Crowe and meeting Cate Blanchett in Robin Hood. I might camp out in Barbara Broccolli's parking space at Pinewood and beg her for a part in the next Bond :P --[[User:TheHeartbreakKid15|TheHeartbreakKid15]] 20:35, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

:"NB! It is probably a S&W M14 or a Mahurin MR73 target model. The S&W M15 were only made with 2" or 4" before the 1980's. Also,the rear sight doesn't look like something out of the S&W factory,so my bet is on the MR73."

:Above taken from some guy called "Geeman" not knowing what the talk page is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:38, 28 August 2012 (CDT)

[[Image:Richard Kiel "Jaws" signed photo.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:TSWLM Jaws revovler.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Swlm-rev1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Jaws revolver could be an Weihrauch Arminius HW 9 .22lr like seen in this link. [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 18:29, 19 December 2012 (EST)
[[http://www.huntershouse.dk/images/sports/arminius/p7873,arminius-hw9.jpg]]

It is definitely not a .22. Look at third screencap, the holes in the cylinder are way too big. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:46, 17 February 2013 (EST)

== Mauser C96 - extended magazine? ==

Is there a model of the Mauser C96 that has an extended magazine? I just noticed that the gun in this photo has an extra long magazine. [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] 11:35, 18 July 2012 (CDT) [[Image:Swlm-c96.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jaws grabs a Mauser C96 from one of his henchmen to fire at Bond.]]

== Unknown Q Branch rifle ==
I'm having problems uploading the photo, but it's at 53:49 in the movie in the background if you want to check it yourself. It's a pistol grip rifle with all wooden furniture mounted on a tripod with a scope. The stock looks vaguely like an M1 Thompson stock with a different angle. There's a closer view less than a minute earlier as Q picks up the tea tray, but it's out of focus and a tech quickly spins the rifle so all you can see is the butt. It looks vaguely like a Gyrojet carbine, but it's got too long of a barrel, the pistol grip is at an angle, and the stock is somewhat different.[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:18, 2 January 2013 (EST)
:[[File:Spywholovedmeunknowntripodrifle.jpg|none|none|600px]]
:I have no idea what that weapon is. Dudester32 11:56, 19 March 2013 (EDT)
:The stock looks like its been mounted upside down! Dudester32 11:57, 19 March 2013 (EDT)
It is a rifle from the TV series ''UFO''. The show had it's own pistols and rifles which didn't appear to use blanks.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:29, 19 March 2013 (EDT)
[[File:UFO rifle.jpg|400px|none|Rifle from Gerry Anderson's ''UFO'' TV series]]

There were two rifles used in the series. This is the second assault rifle version. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 23:06, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

== Dan Wesson Model 15 ? ==

The revolver identified as a Dan Wesson Model 15 is clearly NOT that. A Dan Wesson has a barrel shroud which would be clearly visible in the picture showing the muzzle. This revolver is something else.

: The Dan Wesson model seen in the gun pic on the page doesn't have one. Is there any other revolver that looks like a Smith & Wesson that has a ribbed barrel other than the Dan Wesson? And sign your posts. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 20:33, 4 December 2013 (EST)

While not a Dan Wesson for certain, I'm guessing it may be a Llama 357 or 44. These were Spanish revolvers around in the 70s and 80s that had a vent rib and short barrel lug, S&W like. Not saying it is a Llama for sure, but I can't think right now of anything else that fits the description. As far as signing, I forgot I had to manually do that! Here we go - --[[User:Zenner22|Zenner22]] ([[User talk:Zenner22|talk]]) 20:31, 29 December 2013 (EST)

== Not sure its an Armalite ==

This weapon doesn't look like the Armalite 18 as stated. Note the closed bolt with no charging handle visible. The barrel is too long to be an Armalite as well. In another screencap I took there are holes at the top of the forward grip just like on a FN FAL.
I think this particular weapon is more akin to a FN FAL 50 00 than an Armalite. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 16:51, 1 November 2016 (EDT)
[[Image:Tswlm-ar18a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
Enhanced [https://s22.postimg.org/ynbatckb5/Tswlm_ar18a.jpg image of the above]
[[File:SpyWhoLovedMeRifle01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the holes in the forward grip on the weapon far right. (dont forget to zoom).]]
[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN FAL 50.00 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Armalite-AR18.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Armalite AR-18 - 5.56x45mm]]
: I concur, this is some kind of FAL variant. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 17:21, 7 November 2016 (EST)

Talk:Smith & Wesson 39

2016-05-23T03:17:14Z

Krel: /* Added the Hush Puppy */

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==Additional Variants==
[[File:Smith & Wesson mod39 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 39-2 - 9x19mm]]

==.38 Special==
:Didn't they make this gun in .38 special too? I swear I've seen one before at a gunshow-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, that was a modified target version with a longer barrel designated the model 52. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:I remember going to that show and then learning that so did my computer guy, who later told me he almost bought the .38 Model 39-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:30, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

==39-2==
What is the difference between the model 39 and the model 39-2? From the images it looks like the sights might be slightly different but I can't see any clear distinction.

*The 39-2 is just an updated model 39. If you own a S&W, you can send it back to the factory to have it updated and they will stamp it with a dash and a number. (-2, -3, etc.) It's not always done when they send it back (sometimes because of local laws), and 99% of the time for all intents and purposes, they are identical. Usually the update includes stuff like springs, operating rods, and little internals that may be worn out. --[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 22:17, 3 November 2011 (CDT)

== Added the Hush Puppy ==

I thought we should list the Mk22 Mod 0, given its appearances on articles. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 21:40, 7 March 2016 (EST)
:Does anyone know the production dates, bu chance? --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 19:23, 8 March 2016 (EST)
::I believe that they were made in a single batch in 1968. I believe that in 1971 two pistols were assembled from left over parts as examples of the Hush Puppy, but those don't really count (they are also slightly different with an earlier developmental stock attachment point). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:45, 8 March 2016 (EST)

On the topic of the Hush Puppy, does anybody actually '''know''' what the deal is with the single stack/double stack frame models? The vast majority of stuff online seems to state that the double stack was the actual version that was used and that the single stack was an early version of prototype. From everything that I can actually find I really don;t think that this is the case. First off, the double stack version has the frame step the same as the 59 so they are readily identifiable, and the vast majority of images you can find of the Mk 22 appears to be the single stack version. I also do not buy that this is a prototype, as it is only the single stacks that are marked with the "MK 22 Mod 0" designation, as shown more clearly below:[[File:MK 22 MOD 0 suppressor attached.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mk22 Mod 0 Hush Puppy with suppressor attached - 9x19mm]]As for the double stacks, I can only find images of 2 guns, one of the which has a serial number indicating that it is a tool room gun, and the other has a "1" painted on each side of the rear sight with a description stating that 2 experimental all steel double stack guns were made. Both of these images also lack the Mk22 markings suggesting that they were experimental. I think that part of the confusion about this is that at the same time S&W were making double stack variants using Browning HP magazine for the SEALs. These were not suppressed guns and were purely experimental and were not adopted with the exception of 12 trial pistols. Apparently due to S&W not having the tooling set up for them (meaning that every gun was basically an experimental custom), it took them 18 months to build the 12 pistols. Therefore I find it kind of hard to believe that at the same time S&W could be pumping out hundreds of double stack Hush Puppies with no problems.

I was going to change the description to clear this up but wanted to check if anybody else knew anything different first. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:47, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:I've read they made 200 with the single stack frame and the rest were double stack, but that's about all I can find. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 18:49, 9 March 2016 (EST)

Charles Durning used one in "Cat Chaser". Demonstrating the slide lock cost him dearly.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 23:17, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Luger P08

2016-04-24T03:26:12Z

Krel: /* Gold-plated Lugers in movies */

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=Other Luger Variants=
[[Image:ErmaLuger.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Erma "Mini" Luger - 7.65mm]]
[[Image:Luger carbine.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A rare Luger carbine - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Luger_36470.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Borchardt-Luger artillery prototype in 7.63 Mauser caliber]]
[[Image:P04NavyLuger.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Luger P04 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Lugermarina.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Marine Luger and holster]]

=Discussion=
Do you want to take down the picture of the black luger since we know have MPM2008's images on the page?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

:Sure. That should be policy. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I can think of another movie with the Luger, that is The Land That Time Forgot. Also the Bergman MP-18 is in that movie (anachronistic because the movie is set in 1916 while the U.S. is still "neutral") as well as Mauser 98 rifles and a Webley revolver.

Has a Luger Carbine ever been used in a movie? David.

Found my own answer. Dan Duryea used one in "Balls of Fire"(1941). David.

== .45 Luger Pistol ==
I have found a picture of the famous Luger Pistol chambered in .45 ACP from 1908. It is the only known .45 Luger to still exist today. The other pistol, Serial No. 1, was used in the 1908 pistol test in which it was tested along-side the Colt M1905 Pistol. The original was thrown away after the tests and the other remaning Lugers were either lost or destroyed. This .45 Luger Pistol remains the last of its kind to this day. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]]
:Actually, I remember hearing about a gunsmith who was handcrafting a limited number (around one hundred) of .45 Lugers according to original specifications. However, the high price tags ($10,000-$100,000) meant that the Lugers were more pieces of jewelry than weapons. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::That may be very expensive just for a reproduction, but compare that to the original .45 Luger, which was recently valued at more than $1 Million. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]]
[[Image:Luger Pistol .45 ACP Serial No. 2.jpg|thumb|right|460px|The Famous Luger P08 Pistol, Serial No. 2, chambered in .45 ACP.]]

They also made a .45 ACP carbine, link: http://www.weaponscache.com/forum/pistols/2171-worlds-most-expensive-handgun-45-acp-luger-carbine.html

David.

:::Actually, the famous "million dollar Luger" sold for that in 1989, in a private sale to an Indonesian businessman (who, incidentally, was not a gun collector and probably overpaid). It went up in auction back in March of this year and sold for $494,500. Combination of the economic climate in the 80s (remember "Greed is good"?) compared to today's recession, and the fact that the provenance of that particular gun is actually somewhat shaky. It's definately a real 1907 .45 Luger but there's real doubt as to whether it's actually one of the US army test guns. DWM made a few .45 prototypes for the commercial market as well before deciding there wasn't a market for it. The idea that there's only one survivor isn't accurate, serial # 2,4,7 are known, as well as the carbine, the authenticity of which is questionned. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

 
== Gold-plated Lugers in movies ==

I seem to remember a scene from an old science-fiction/monster movie, maybe from the fifties or sixties, name unknown, in which a gold-plated Luger with the snail-drum mounted (also gold-plated) figured prominently towards the end. I had thought it was "The Day The World Ended" - I'm pretty sure it was that sort of "post-apocalyptic" plot-line, with mutated humans, etc. - but that was in b&w, while the flick I'm thinking of had to be in color, or the "golden" Luger would never have been noticeable.

Unfortunately, I saw it so long ago (early seventies) that I can't recall anything else about it and have never seen it since.

Does anyone recognize that extremely-vague description?

In the 60s, "The Day the World Ended" was remade for television as "In the Year 2889" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060536/ . I haven't seen it since the 60s, but I do remember the hero using a Luger with a drum magazine at the end. Don't remember if it was gold, or not, we had a b&w tv set at the time. David.
::Well if you all checked IMDB, then you would know that the movie was indeed COLOR, not black & white. :) So it is possible, though I myself have never seen that movie. Even on MST3K ;D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

If you had read what I wrote, then you would see that I did not say that the movie was in black & white. I said that at the time we only owned a black & white tv set. I know that the movie was in color because it was one of a series of Roger Corman movies that American International hired Larry Buchanan to remake for syndication to tv stations. They were having trouble syndicating the originals because they were in Black & White. David.

I just watched it on Comet TV. The Luger has a shinny finish, but as the scene was filmed day-for-night, I couldn't tell if it was gold plated, or chrome plated. The drum magazine seemed to have the same finish on it.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 00:49, 23 April 2016 (EDT)

==P04 or Marine P08==
I'm trying to ID the specific variant of the pistol used in [[High School of the Dead]], as it's not the Artillery model which picture on that page is, and I thought I had it pinned as the P04, given the detachable stock, 6 inch barrel, the grove-like features on the round parts of the base of the magazine (which I read are specific to the P04), and most notably the rear sight, but then I saw both the Marine P08 and the P04 on this page, which look almost identical, and now I'm lost. Can someone with better knowledge of this gun's variants help me out? [http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110109134503/highschool-of-the-dead/images/7/77/Luger.jpg Here's the completely identical manga version] of the scene screencapped on that page, simply more detailed, and here's [http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110218030938/deadliestfiction/images/3/35/Postcard02_Saya.jpg official artwork] of Saya with her pistol. EDIT: Looking into the "Vickers Ltd" on it, I found this on Wikipedia: "The company was also involved in the manufacture of 6000-10000 (6181 is often quoted) Luger pistols in 1922-24. These 1906 pattern pistols were in 9 mm calibre and part of a contract for the Dutch military. The Lugers are identifiable by the inscription "Vickers Ltd" on the forward toggle link." This makes sense, as it was referred to as a "Holland model" in the show, though I still want help with the details here. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:56, 27 March 2014 (EDT)
:Being from Holland and knowing something about the Luger in Dutch service, I am glad to oblige. From 1911 to 1942 it was used as the official pistol of the Royal Netherlands East Indies Army, the area that is now Indonesia, which was a colony at the time. Being introduced in 1911, it was referred to as the M.11 and it was produced in several locations. In the period 1911~1914 at DWM in Germany, 1919~1928 assembled at Vickers in UK from German parts and from 1929 onwards again at DWM in Germany. For more detailed info, please check the [http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/asp/page.asp?alias=strategion&view=strategion&id=i001879&show=detail&priref=44285&collection=mediatheek&q= M.11 page on the website of the Dutch Army Museum], it has excellent info in English (below the Dutch) and images. Enjoy! [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 06:29, 28 March 2014 (EDT)

== Luger Lp 08,Glock's ancestor? ==

::Hey,fellas!I've been thinkin'recently about something.The Luger LP08 looks to me like an ancient Glock.Why?Simply because it seemed so modern for that time.I mean,a mag which holds 30 9x19 mm rounds,a nice grip, a heavy barrel which compensates the recoil....They all seem like a Glock concept to me.Please tell me what you think about this idea.--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 07:03, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
[[Image:Luger-P08ArtilleryWDrum.jpg|thumb|center|500px|Luger LP08 "Artillery" model with the rare ''Trommelmagazin 08'' snail drum magazine compatible with the [[Bergmann MP18]] submachine gun - 9x19mm]]
Aside from the grip angle and the fact they're both chambered in 9mm Para, I don't think there's much similarity at all. The LP-08 was more of a PDW for artillery crews, and a Glock is... a handgun. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:15, 19 March 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Luger P08

2016-04-23T04:49:22Z

Krel: /* Gold-plated Lugers in movies */

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==Other Luger Variants==
[[Image:ErmaLuger.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Erma "Mini" Luger - 7.65mm]]
[[Image:Luger carbine.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A rare Luger carbine - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Luger_36470.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Borchardt-Luger artillery prototype in 7.63 Mauser caliber]]
[[Image:P04NavyLuger.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Luger P04 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Lugermarina.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Marine Luger and holster]]

==Discussion==
Do you want to take down the picture of the black luger since we know have MPM2008's images on the page?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

:Sure. That should be policy. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I can think of another movie with the Luger, that is The Land That Time Forgot. Also the Bergman MP-18 is in that movie (anachronistic because the movie is set in 1916 while the U.S. is still "neutral") as well as Mauser 98 rifles and a Webley revolver.

Has a Luger Carbine ever been used in a movie? David.

Found my own answer. Dan Duryea used one in "Balls of Fire"(1941). David.

== .45 Luger Pistol ==

I have found a picture of the famous Luger Pistol chambered in .45 ACP from 1908. It is the only known .45 Luger to still exist today. The other pistol, Serial No. 1, was used in the 1908 pistol test in which it was tested along-side the Colt M1905 Pistol. The original was thrown away after the tests and the other remaning Lugers were either lost or destroyed. This .45 Luger Pistol remains the last of its kind to this day. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]]
:Actually, I remember hearing about a gunsmith who was handcrafting a limited number (around one hundred) of .45 Lugers according to original specifications. However, the high price tags ($10,000-$100,000) meant that the Lugers were more pieces of jewelry than weapons. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::That may be very expensive just for a reproduction, but compare that to the original .45 Luger, which was recently valued at more than $1 Million. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]]
[[Image:Luger Pistol .45 ACP Serial No. 2.jpg|thumb|right|460px|The Famous Luger P08 Pistol, Serial No. 2, chambered in .45 ACP.]]

They also made a .45 ACP carbine, link: http://www.weaponscache.com/forum/pistols/2171-worlds-most-expensive-handgun-45-acp-luger-carbine.html

David.

:::Actually, the famous "million dollar Luger" sold for that in 1989, in a private sale to an Indonesian businessman (who, incidentally, was not a gun collector and probably overpaid). It went up in auction back in March of this year and sold for $494,500. Combination of the economic climate in the 80s (remember "Greed is good"?) compared to today's recession, and the fact that the provenance of that particular gun is actually somewhat shaky. It's definately a real 1907 .45 Luger but there's real doubt as to whether it's actually one of the US army test guns. DWM made a few .45 prototypes for the commercial market as well before deciding there wasn't a market for it. The idea that there's only one survivor isn't accurate, serial # 2,4,7 are known, as well as the carbine, the authenticity of which is questionned. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

== Gold-plated Lugers in movies ==

I seem to remember a scene from an old science-fiction/monster movie, maybe from the fifties or sixties, name unknown, in which a gold-plated Luger with the snail-drum mounted (also gold-plated) figured prominently towards the end. I had thought it was "The Day The World Ended" - I'm pretty sure it was that sort of "post-apocalyptic" plot-line, with mutated humans, etc. - but that was in b&w, while the flick I'm thinking of had to be in color, or the "golden" Luger would never have been noticeable.

Unfortunately, I saw it so long ago (early seventies) that I can't recall anything else about it and have never seen it since.

Does anyone recognize that extremely-vague description?

In the 60s, "The Day the World Ended" was remade for television as "In the Year 2889" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060536/ . I haven't seen it since the 60s, but I do remember the hero using a Luger with a drum magazine at the end. Don't remember if it was gold, or not, we had a b&w tv set at the time. David.
::Well if you all checked IMDB, then you would know that the movie was indeed COLOR, not black & white. :) So it is possible, though I myself have never seen that movie. Even on MST3K ;D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

If you had read what I wrote, then you would see that I did not say that the movie was in black & white. I said that at the time we only owned a black & white tv set. I know that the movie was in color because it was one of a series of Roger Corman movies that American International hired Larry Buchanan to remake for syndication to tv stations. They were having trouble syndicating the originals because they were in Black & White. David.

I just watched it on Comet TV. The Luger has a--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 00:49, 23 April 2016 (EDT) shinny finish, but as the scene was filmed day-for-night, I couldn't tell if it was gold plated, or chrome plated. The drum magazine seemed to have the same finish on it.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 00:49, 23 April 2016 (EDT)

==P04 or Marine P08==
I'm trying to ID the specific variant of the pistol used in [[High School of the Dead]], as it's not the Artillery model which picture on that page is, and I thought I had it pinned as the P04, given the detachable stock, 6 inch barrel, the grove-like features on the round parts of the base of the magazine (which I read are specific to the P04), and most notably the rear sight, but then I saw both the Marine P08 and the P04 on this page, which look almost identical, and now I'm lost. Can someone with better knowledge of this gun's variants help me out? [http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110109134503/highschool-of-the-dead/images/7/77/Luger.jpg Here's the completely identical manga version] of the scene screencapped on that page, simply more detailed, and here's [http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110218030938/deadliestfiction/images/3/35/Postcard02_Saya.jpg official artwork] of Saya with her pistol. EDIT: Looking into the "Vickers Ltd" on it, I found this on Wikipedia: "The company was also involved in the manufacture of 6000-10000 (6181 is often quoted) Luger pistols in 1922-24. These 1906 pattern pistols were in 9 mm calibre and part of a contract for the Dutch military. The Lugers are identifiable by the inscription "Vickers Ltd" on the forward toggle link." This makes sense, as it was referred to as a "Holland model" in the show, though I still want help with the details here. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:56, 27 March 2014 (EDT)
:Being from Holland and knowing something about the Luger in Dutch service, I am glad to oblige. From 1911 to 1942 it was used as the official pistol of the Royal Netherlands East Indies Army, the area that is now Indonesia, which was a colony at the time. Being introduced in 1911, it was referred to as the M.11 and it was produced in several locations. In the period 1911~1914 at DWM in Germany, 1919~1928 assembled at Vickers in UK from German parts and from 1929 onwards again at DWM in Germany. For more detailed info, please check the [http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/asp/page.asp?alias=strategion&view=strategion&id=i001879&show=detail&priref=44285&collection=mediatheek&q= M.11 page on the website of the Dutch Army Museum], it has excellent info in English (below the Dutch) and images. Enjoy! [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 06:29, 28 March 2014 (EDT)

== Luger Lp 08,Glock's ancestor? ==

::Hey,fellas!I've been thinkin'recently about something.The Luger LP08 looks to me like an ancient Glock.Why?Simply because it seemed so modern for that time.I mean,a mag which holds 30 9x19 mm rounds,a nice grip, a heavy barrel which compensates the recoil....They all seem like a Glock concept to me.Please tell me what you think about this idea.--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 07:03, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
[[Image:Luger-P08ArtilleryWDrum.jpg|thumb|center|500px|Luger LP08 "Artillery" model with the rare ''Trommelmagazin 08'' snail drum magazine compatible with the [[Bergmann MP18]] submachine gun - 9x19mm]]
Aside from the grip angle and the fact they're both chambered in 9mm Para, I don't think there's much similarity at all. The LP-08 was more of a PDW for artillery crews, and a Glock is... a handgun. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:15, 19 March 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Nemesis 4: Death Angel

2015-08-28T01:47:42Z

Krel: Created page with "I believe that the Steyr is actually a CZ-52. --~~~~"

I believe that the Steyr is actually a CZ-52. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:47, 27 August 2015 (EDT)

Talk:The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (2015)

2015-08-04T01:47:54Z

Krel: /* Mauser?! */

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==Mauser?!==
In the middle of screencapping the trailer and I can't quite identify this, looks like a heavily dressed up Mauser, but I can't be sure, any suggestions?
[[Image:ManFrom-Mauser.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 15:19, 13 February 2015 (GMT)
:When I saw the trailer, I assumed it was the famous U.N.C.L.E carbine, based on the P38. (You know, Megatron.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:31, 13 February 2015 (EST)
::And please crop the black bars from all screencaps and reupload. Thanks. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 10:32, 13 February 2015 (EST)
Yeah, it seems obvious now, lol, thanks for the help, and I've gone ahead and altered the screencaps --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 15:51, 13 February 2015 (GMT)
:::OK, a few things. I don't think it's a sure thing that the movie carbine is built around the P38. Looking closely at the pistol it looks nothing like a P38, but more like a Mauser as you originally stated. Notice how Illya appears to be bracing his hand on something well forward of the trigger, which to me looks like the box magazine of a Mauser. There is some discussion at [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Man-From-Uncle-Gun/186395181410983 Man from Uncle Gun Facebook page] as to the identity of the base weapon, and one poster notes that it's probably not a P38 as there is no safety catch on the slide. This poster also says he is trying to contact Guy Ritchie's "people" to confirm what pistol was used for the carbine...we'll see if he gets a response.
:::Also the Walther is an MPK, the barrel is too short to be an MPL. Illya appears to be using a Makarov, a standard version in the car at the beginning of the trailer, and a suppressed version on the movie poster. Looking at some behind the scenes photos that were taken when this was being filmed, I believe the guns on the patrol boat are FN MAGS.
:::Since I found out this movie was in the works I've been trying to find out what firearms would be used. Unfortunately, most unofficial photos that I found of the production are so blurry positive identification is impossible. The only guns that I'm 100% sure about, which don't appear in the trailer, are Sterling smg's, used by UNCLE commandos. I also saw some kind of battle rifles held by some extras, either FAL or G3; and what appears to be a SIG P210 used by a henchman, but again, the photo quality was too poor to be sure. Of course none of these weapons can be added to the page as there are no official photos as of yet, but thought I would just mention them FYI.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 13:17, 13 February 2015 (EST)
::::I'll leave the Uncle custom as it is for now until we get a better look at it, but I'll change the MPL to a K as I've had a closer look and I agree. I haven't seen the low quality pictures you have, care to share them? I also noticed what looked like a Makarov on the seat of the car but it was a very brief glimpse and didn't really think it was enough to properly identify it, but if you feel comfortable adding it then feel free too. I noticed a soldier with a rifle slung on his back as well that I straight away thought was an M1 Garand, but I can't make a 100% positive identification of it as we only really see the muzzle. Also was thinking of adding the pistol held by Illya on the poster, which I'm pretty sure is a Makarov with a custom suppressor, can anyone else confirm? --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 19:00, 13 February 2015 (GMT)
:::::Here's some of the photo's I've found:
:::::This looks like a [https://www.facebook.com/TheManfromUncleMovie/photos_stream?ref=page_internal#!/TheManfromUncleMovie/photos/pb.269730629769530.-2207520000.1423855552./538894039519853/?type=3&theater SIG P210]
:::::Guy on extreme left and Guy in center appear to have [https://www.facebook.com/TheManfromUncleMovie/photos/pb.269730629769530.-2207520000.1423855826./531418086934115/?type=3&theater FAL or G3] battle rifles. You will probably have to zoom into photo to see these.
:::::This appears to be [http://www.henrycavillnews.com/2013/11/exclusive-henry-cavill-films-boat-chase.html FN MAG] mounted on patrol boat. Again, you will have to zoom on photo.
:::::You can see from the quality of the photos why positive IDs are impossible. There are photos of the UNCLE commandos with Sterlings at a site named LaneyBoggs2001.tumbler.com, but I don't have time to find them now. I agree with you about the M1 Garand. There is also an M2 .50 cal mounted on the M41 tank.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 14:44, 13 February 2015 (EST)
::::::Yeah I think you're dead on about those ID's but best to wait for official stills before adding them to the page. Also added to the description of the U.N.C.L.E. Custom about the ambiguity of the specific pistol involved.--[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 20:29, 13 February 2015 (GMT)
:::::::[https://www.facebook.com/pages/Man-From-Uncle-Gun/186395181410983 Man from Uncle Gun Facebook page] now states that the gun used for the UNCLE carbine is a [[Walther_GSP|Walther GSP]]. Strange choice, since it is a target pistol. Besides that, it is anachronistic as the model in .32 wasn't even available until 1971. A Walther OSP could have been used instead, which was around during the timeframe of the movie. Considering this odd choice for the carbine, I'm guessing this is one of those situations where the script calls for a totally fictional weapon invented by UNCLE, forcing the armorer to use the best possible option as a base weapon. I'd compare it to the use of the Mauser C96 in [[Sherlock_Holmes:_A_Game_of_Shadows#Mauser_C96|Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows]]. The script called for a Moriarty-designed clip-fed automatic pistol, so the best option was probably to use a Mauser, even if in reality it hadn't been invented at that time, rather than build a prop from the ground up.
:::::::I mentioned that in the film the UNCLE commandos use Sterlings, and here's photo that I found a while back: [https://hmssweblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/uncle2ndunit.jpg UNCLE Commandos Sterling SMG]. This isn't from the same group of photos I mentioned before, in which the Sterlings were clearly seen, but by zooming in it's obvious what kind of SMG is being used.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 12:32, 17 February 2015 (EST)

The Man From Uncle Gun Facebook page has some photos of the gun, both disassembled, and assembled: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Man-From-Uncle-Gun/186395181410983 --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:47, 3 August 2015 (EDT)

==Game==
Looks like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvHTOUZugs0 the game coming out tomorrow] is going to have the pistol in it (which seems to be fully automatic). Seeing as it's free-to-play, there'll probably be a good side picture of the gun in some type of store menu.--[[User:Quarax|Quarax]] ([[User talk:Quarax|talk]]) 22:45, 11 July 2015 (EDT)
:I just played it, it's terrible, also no real good look at the pistol. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 16:06, 12 July 2015 (GMT)

::I didn't have to play it to know that. :)

::But I'm kind of disappointed there's no good shot of the pistol. Oh well.--[[User:Quarax|Quarax]] ([[User talk:Quarax|talk]]) 16:27, 13 July 2015 (EDT)

==Anachronistic rifle in new trailer==
I watched the final trailer for MFU and spotted a guard using what appears to be a Sig 542. This rifle is anachronistic for the time period as it wasn't produced until 1973. I realize this movie had a limited budget, but it seems hard to believe that the armorer couldn't source a more period correct rifle, such as a FAL, G3, or even a Cetme. It seems a given that these period films will contain some kind of anachronism, be it songs, costumes, guns, or cars. I read on IMCDB that the Trabant Iylla is driving is actually a 1980's model!- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 16:21, 26 July 2015 (EDT)

Talk:SubUrbia

2015-07-10T01:34:50Z

Krel:

{{Unknown}}
[[File:Suburbia_Pistol1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:Suburbia_Pistol2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
This pistol is probably obvious, but I checked the pistol catalogue and I couldn't find anything I thought matched. --[[User:ZaneTheDudeMan|ZaneTheDudeMan]] ([[User talk:ZaneTheDudeMan|talk]]) 19:35, 9 July 2015 (EDT)

It is a one of the Ruger P series pistols, not sure which model. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:34, 9 July 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Timecop

2015-01-31T02:25:53Z

Krel:

Is there a place where I can see the Desert Eagle in the shell in this movie better?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:50, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

The "stunt" picture of the pistol was used in the Stargate TV show as one of the main side arms of the Genii. It had the rounded trigger guard, so the hero guns were probably made with beretta 92SB's.

In the episode "Dark Matters", of the first season of "The New Outer Limits", the Desert Eagle was used as a LASER gun. The show also used the "Timecop" pistols also. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:25, 30 January 2015 (EST)

Talk:Almost Human (TV Series)

2014-12-29T03:30:44Z

Krel: /* Timecop Berettas */

== Please help ID ==

Please help ID this pistol. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 12:18, 19 November 2013 (EST)
[[Image:AlmostHumanS01E02Unknown.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In "Skin", an Albanian criminal birefly wields a large-frame pistol, that is apparently reverse two-tone.]]
:Pretty sure it's the same Zigana used in the beginning of the episode. I can make out the trigger guard and the some parts of the frame. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 03:03, 11 December 2013 (EST)

::I don't think it's the Zigana. It looks like it's got a black slide, and the lighting makes it seem it has a nickel or stainless frame. The shape reminds me of a Jericho 941, but I'm not a 100% on this. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 01:36, 12 December 2013 (EST)

:Looks like an M4 pattern, however you can see that the receiver rail is higher than the handguard rail, and on a real M4 they would be in line. Based on this and the fact that this is a Vancouver production I would guess that this is one of the early model Olympic Arms K3B-FTs that appear in a lot of Canadian shows, like the Stargate franchise. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:30, 10 December 2013 (EST)
::Since no one objects, I'll move the image to the main page. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 09:48, 30 December 2013 (EST)

== Airsoft P90 ==

I'm not sure those are airsoft, I think they are just fitted with airsoft accessories. Firstly, they may have that hopper on the back but they also have a normal P90 magazine, which I do not thing can normally be fitted with one of these place. Also I don't think it has the AR-15 mag well on the left side, so my guess is that they have just fitted the hopper part to alter the shape of the weapon to make it appear futuristic. Secondly, after Kennex gets his leg shot off at the start of the episode, it looks like there are a number of cases on the floor which to me look like they could be fired 5.7x28mm crimped blanks (best shot is when it zooms in on the dead cops face). It could just be set dressing, but it got me wondering. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:58, 19 November 2013 (EST)

:I changed it back, I don't think they are airsoft either. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 09:12, 19 November 2013 (EST)

Irby's character picks one up from a disabled android near the end of first ep, and fires it. So obviusly not airsoft. Unless of course it was cgi, but doubtfull, I think those airsoft versions are discontinued. So it would be much easier to modify actual P90's not get a bunch of no longer for sale airsoft guns --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 08:21, 12 December 2013 (EST)
: Those airsoft guns are very much for sale: http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=30825
: It would be possible to definitely identify them as airsoft guns if a view of the left side of the gun is available; the Evike Terminator uses a STANAG-style box magazine inserted into a magwell jutting out from the left side of the receiver, as the pictures show. I'm willing to bet that those guns are just slightly dressed up Evike Terminators with CGI muzzle flash. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 01:18, 13 December 2013 (EST)

They're real P90s. http://www.therpf.com/f47/almost-human-185214/index3.html#post3131014 --[[User:Max Deployment|Max Deployment]] ([[User talk:Max Deployment|talk]]) 15:27, 19 December 2013 (EST)
: Errr, this doesn't mention the P90s at all. That's just about the dressed-up Berettas. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 20:28, 19 December 2013 (EST)
:: Okay, I did some looking on the forum myself. This thread actually does indicate that they're real P90s from Underworld: Awakening http://www.therpf.com/f9/almost-human-202280/#post3145228 [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 20:46, 19 December 2013 (EST)
::: I can't do ''anything'' right! --[[User:Max Deployment|Max Deployment]] ([[User talk:Max Deployment|talk]]) 04:03, 21 December 2013 (EST)

== Timecop Berettas ==

Are we sure these are Timecop Berettas? The muzzle profile seems a lot more angular than on the Timecop Beretta. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:18, 19 November 2013 (EST)
:Looks like the same pistol that was in [[Stargate_Universe#Custom_SVI_1911|Stargate Universe]]. It is currently listed as a custom SVI 1911 but am fairly sure that is wrong as I think you can see a Beretta style slide through the ejection port, however it is different to the original Timecop Beretta. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:05, 19 November 2013 (EST)
::I think it's a modified Taurus. I think I see a frame-mounted safety in one of the picks. (Assuming it's a functional safety.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:08, 19 November 2013 (EST)

:::That's exatcly what I was thinking; The first shot where Urban holds the pistol you can make out a frame-mounted safety... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 12:13, 19 November 2013 (EST)

::::Here is a good comparison shot between the two:[[File:TIMECOP-Pistol07a.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]][[File:AlmostHumanS01E03Taurus.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]] They are both Tauruses, but the only "custom" part that appears to be common is the rear part of the shroud that reciprocates with the slide. Both halves of the shroud at the front appear to be new, and even the grips are different being wood rather than polymer. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:17, 26 November 2013 (EST)

I believe that is the pistol from the Nick Fury tv movie that starred David Hasselhoff. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:31, 26 November 2013 (EST)

Here's where I'm getting my info on the pistol: http://www.therpf.com/f47/almost-human-185214/index3.html#post3131014 --[[User:Max Deployment|Max Deployment]] ([[User talk:Max Deployment|talk]]) 15:22, 19 December 2013 (EST)

On a side note, does anyone know why Urban's gun handling has appeared to of worsened. He has always used good high grips on his handguns, and in the beginning of the series, but now he has adopted the cup and saucer technique, it just kind of confuses me.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 20:02, 28 December 2014 (EST)

Could it be the weight of the pistol that caused him to change his grip? According to Ken Palkow, Karl Urban saw the Timecop pistol, and wanted to know why the bad guy had a better looking pistol. It was decided to make a new pistol, because the Timecop pistol was in bad shape. Ken Palkow showed the pistol off on an episode of Steve Neil's Garage. It looks similar to the Timecop pistol, but with more metal added. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 22:30, 28 December 2014 (EST)

== UTS-15 ==

Looks like this might be our first Gen 2 version:

[[Image:AlmostHumanS01UTSP90.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Det. Kennex holds his UTS-15 next to an MX android (S01E01).]]

Tube selector looks like it's a straight tab rather than a hook.

[[Image:UTS-15 Gen2.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Gen 2 UTAS UTS-15 - 12 gauge]]
[[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 16:07, 26 November 2013 (EST)

Odd thing is, this one looks like a Gen 1, so maybe they had several.

[[Image:AlmostHumanS01UTS2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Det. Kennex enters a building with his UTS-15 (S01E01).]]

Given FPS Russia managed to break two of the three the manufacturer gave him, that wouldn't surprise me. Looks like they managed to break the dust covers on this one / both of these. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 16:23, 26 November 2013 (EST)

:Although the selector tab on that looks hooked (and may in fact be a Gen 1 one), I think overall it is a Gen 2. Firstly, it has the Gen 2 style catch on the loading port cover. Secondly, from the length of the first line of text it says "RIGHT MAGAZINE CAPACITY" rather than the Gen 1 which says "MAGAZINE CAPACITY". Lastly, the markings for the laser/light switch (although the switch isn't installed) are level with the front of the trigger guard rather than further back like on the Gen 1. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:56, 26 November 2013 (EST)
::Forgot, it also has the sights that come with the Gen 2 but seeing as they are modular this one isn't definitive. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:59, 26 November 2013 (EST)

Talk:Screamers

2014-07-02T01:56:40Z

Krel:

Based on the bits of the frame that are visible inside the cosmetic shroud, I think that flare pistol is a [http://simage1.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/9/98903_ts.jpg Geco], a German signal gun from the 60s. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:11, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

I don't remember where. But when the movie came out, I read that the N.E.B. rifle was a bean bag gun. I think it said that it was a French weapon, but I haven't been able to find it on the web.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:56, 1 July 2014 (EDT)

Talk:(The 6th Day) - "Foosh" Gun

2014-06-03T02:15:30Z

Krel: /* Moved from Main page (posted by anon user) */

==Moved from Main page (posted by anon user)==
there are at least two versions of the gun in the movie pistol and carbine used by wiley and marshall. [[Special:Contributions/66.230.101.104|66.230.101.104]]

Ron Cobb has said that the weapons are chemically powered lasers. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 22:15, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Almost Human (TV Series)

2013-11-27T02:31:39Z

Krel: /* Timecop Berettas */

Talk:Firefly

2013-11-07T23:38:15Z

Krel: /* Stun gun? */

== Mine ==

I just got the entire season and I'll be working on this in the next week or so [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 09:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Anyone else notice that the "Ambulance shutle" in Ariel is.. An Mi-24 HIND?
::Those were the fiberglass HIND drones that a defense company made in Florida with the intention of selling them or leasing them to the Dept of Defense for training purposes. They were RC controlled FULL SIZED drones of the HIND-D model. They were awesome, but the sudden END of the Cold War eliminated the DOD's interest in them as training tools. The Company went under and a few of the fiberglass models were purchased by Movie Props houses. There was an article in Soldier of Fortune about these very same fake Hind replicas. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:38, 19 May 2012 (CDT)
[[Image: Firefly_0109_Hind_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wash finds the shell at the dump.]]
[[Image: Firefly_0109_Hind_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The practical model after being tricked out. The front cockpit appears to be filled in. ]]
[[Image: Firefly_0109_Hind_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The CGI model landing. Centuries from now, after humans have perfected interstellar travel, patients will still have to ride outside like they did during the Korean War.]]
[[Image: Firefly_0109_Hind_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The CGI model pulling into ''Serenity''. It's darker than the practical model.]]

ZOE “Preacher, don't the Bible got some pretty specific things to say about killing?”
BOOK “Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.”
Rex095

== L85s? ==

Is it actually possible to tell if the Alliance rifles are A1 or A2 models? Because I seem to recall that the ones in "The Train Job" had no charging handle at all, which is usually the easiest wat to tell the two apart. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

:It's possible those could be Airsoft replicas. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

::Whilst it's more than likely that these L85s are Airsoft replicas, there are ways to tell apart A1 and the orrigional A2s (The A2 has since had 2 futher upgrades and is going through another)
The mag-release catch on A2s has a metal cover around it. The safety is more prominant on the A2, and the trigger has a slight re-design.
However - due to the date the show was made - these '''are''' A1s. No-one made airsoft A2s at this point, because the British armed forces were only just getting the real things back from H&K. [[User:195.93.21.8]]

== Janes Shotgun ==

Why is Jaynes shotgun somewhat famous? Am i being a moron cus i dont know what else it is from? Im on about the Ithica.--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 03:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

== Unknown Revolver ==

Anyone know what the revolver on the right of this picture is? It appears to be break-open, and the barrel doesn't seem angular enough to be a Webley or Enfield. A Schofield of some type maybe? I'm not too good with revolvers.
[[Image:FireflyHP.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 14:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I'd say it was a Webley.
:It's large, so I would say Webley Mk VI [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:44, 19 May 2012 (CDT)

==Mals gun==
Mals gun is call a "Moses Brothers Self-Defense Engine Frontier Model B" in-universe. Also i Think that name is a mouthfull

That name was given to the gun after the movie by the now defunct prop company that created a licensed replica. QMX. The prop handlers who built the gun called it the oil can gun.
QMX is still trading.

Just changed the image on the page from the Serenity gun back to the firefly version.

== Para-Ordnance P-10 ==
I removed this one entirely and moved the pics to the Colt Mustang section, no offense intended to anyone, because the weapon is clearly the Mustang. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank You. (I got tripped up because the article's reference photo shows the 'Government 380 ACP' w/caption 'Colt Mustang 380 ACP'). JimK

== Same Star Firestar M-45 from Kill Bill? ==

[[Image:Star Firestar M-45.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Screen Version]]
[[Image:Fireflygunriver.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Nopower4.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Image with no lens flair showing the extended barrel]]
They're both custom longslide models and you're not going to see them very often.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Zoe's Mare's Leg ==

Was the same prop used by Lord Bowler in The Adventures Brisco County Jr. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Brisco_County,_Jr.#Props

I keep seeing this attribution, but I don't think it's accurate. I've seen ABC fairly recently, and can't recall Lord Bowler carrying anything other than an SAA and his preferred weapon, a pistolized side-by-side shotgun. The only mare's leg I remember seeing was used by the female bounty hunter, Crystal Hawks, in the episode of the same name.

I've been watching the episodes recently to try and find where the Mare's Leg was used and Lord Bowler only used the sawed off shotgun as his preferred weapon. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:25, 13 July 2011 (CDT)

== SMG used in "Out of Gas" ==

It isn't an MP40. It's a Belgian Vigneron M2. The longer barrel, front sight, and wire stock by the ejection port give it away. All it takes is just a few more minutes of research... [[User:Cozmo|Cozmo]] 14:47, 18 March 2011 (CDT)

==AC556==
One of the robbers at the beginning of the episode "Our Mrs. Reynolds" has a Ruger AC556. He strafes the front of the wagon that Mal and Jayne are driving, while disguised as villagers. Don't have the DVD so I can't cap it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:40, 24 October 2011 (CDT)

:You mean this one? I'm horrible at this wiki stuff, so I won't make an ass of myself by attempting to add it to the page. [[User:The Kaptain|The Kaptain]] 22:49, 24 October 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:Firefly-AC556(1).jpg|thumb|none|500px|AC556]]

== Unknown pistol ==

One of the angry drinkers uses an unknown pistol. Maybe a [[Smith & Wesson 4506]]? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:40, 12 May 2013 (EDT)

[[Image: Fireflyglock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Circled in blue.]]

:Not sure about that, bushing looks wrong for a .45 S&W, either 2nd or 3rd gen. Also the sights are not the adjustable S&W ones, and look like they are too far back for fixed ones. The slide markings with what looks like that round logo are wrong for a S&W, and the slide is also too long for a stock 4506. Although it looks like there is a slide safety, I think that may be an optical illusion as there also appears to be a 1911 style frame safety. My guess is some kind of AMT, but not sure. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:28, 12 May 2013 (EDT)

== More unknowns ==

It bothers me a bit that I've only seen one episode and yet I still came across three undocumented guns (these two plus the S&W 629 PC.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 03:21, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
[[Image: Firefly_0101_carbine_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sheriff Bourne ([[Gregg Henry]]) is armed with some sort of carbine. I had initially thought a Sharps, or a Spencer, but it doesn't appear to be either.]]
[[Image: Firefly_0101_unknown_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jayne with what appears to be some sort of a dressed up revolver. Does it show up later? ]]

Jayne's revolver is his LeMat revolver that he uses throughout the series. And the gun on top appears to be a double-barrel shotgun. --[[User:Mormonpowerranger521|Mormonpowerranger521]] 2:19, 1 June 2013 (MST)
:The revolver looks more like the 629 PC to me. Rifle is deffinitely a [[Remington Rolling Block]] of some sort though. [[File:Remington Model 1867 Rolling Block Carbine.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Remington Model 1867 Rolling Block Carbine - .50-45]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:25, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
::It looks a bit short to be a S&W 629 PC. And it looks a lot shorter than Jayne's LeMat. Thanks for the carbine ID. I knew it looked familiar. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 04:29, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
:::I can't really tell the length as it is pretty much head on. I was going by how the front of it looks with that open chamber underneath the barrel to the other pic of the 629 PC, and to me they looked similar. However, on looking at it on a petter computer screen, I think it may be the LeMat as well. It looks like it has a large unfluted cylinder with more chambers than a typical 6 round revolver, and I also think I can see that rib they have put over the barrel. Triger guard also looks like a match for the LeMat. Also, I know that IMDB lists the episodes in this order, but I think we should list them in the intended order rather than the bastardised FOX one. Firstly, the FOX order that IMDB uses makes no sense, with episodes being shuffled around all over the place. I'm gonna guess that 99% of people who have seen Firefly have seen it in DVD form rather than when it originally aired, so I think we should use the real order that is on the DVDs (how it is listed on Wikipedia). Or do VOD providers use the original FOX order as well? Because if so that is ridiculous. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:33, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
::::Yes, I struggled with that too. The discs don't bother reshuffling episodes, they just have them in air order. As for the pistol, I'll just keep an eye out. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:08, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
:::::Are you capping it from a bluray with the episodes in the aired by FOX order then? That surprises me, my British Bluray has them in the intended order, which makes a hell of a lot more sense. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:14, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
::::::It's the Region A Blu-Rays. I'll check again. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 21:59, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
:::::::Looks like you're right. Whoops. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:12, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

== Jayne's ([[Adam Baldwin]]) Guns ==

Need ID'ing (all of them)

[[Image:FireflyJayne'sguns.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
Ruger MkIII, Jericho 941 w/ a stainless finish, some FABARM shotgun, I think that the closest handgun is a Springfield XD, one of his many shotguns is a Winchester 1300.

The farthest gun, based on the muzzle break thing looks like VERA to me. The closest gun, to me, looks like a Ruger semi-auto. A p-89 maybe. I also see a Ithaca stakeout with a pistol grip in there.
:My guess on these closest to farthest is a Browning BDA, two tone Jericho 941, Ruger Mk III, FABARM FP6, Mossberg 590 mariner with a top folding stockm Winchester 1200/1300, the Savage in the Choate stock, Vera, and then I guess the one against the wall is the Ithaca he uses. Where do you see the stakeout? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:12, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:FireflyJayne'sguns2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
Wildey Magnum, a Mossberg Persuader of some sort, A Blaser R93, 37mm Tru-Flite Police Tear Gas Gun appears again in the centre, I think I see a Smith and Wesson 629 Performance Center model,
:I don't think that is a Blaser, I think it is a Ruger 10/22 in a custom stock (a "Zero Shark" I think). There is also the Goncz pistol and carbine in there, along with a Magnum Research Lone Eagle (the kind with no handguard) that is fitted with some kind of boxy barrel shroud. I think the bottom pistol that is mostly cut off could be a Smith & Wesson 4563, but not sure. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:35, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
::On second look, I don't think that is the Goncz pistol seen in another episode, but rather a Claridge Hi-Tec with a non-finned muzzle extension. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:48, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:FireflyJayne'srifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]

Savage with a Choate stock?

== Heart of Gold ==

In the heart of gold episode I believe I saw one of the brothel wielding a Winchester 100 for a brief second when they fired there first volley can anyone id?--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 05:19, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
:I was wrong its not a Winchester 100 its some sort of shotgun can anyone ID?--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 14:34, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
[[Image:FireflyS01E13shotgun.JPG|thumb|none|600px|one of the male bordello workers shooting at the bad guys.]]
:I'm almost halfway through. I'll get a BD screenshot in a week or two. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:37, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
::Okay thanks I'm just trying to help.--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 14:43, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Is hard to tell with that lighting, but from the rounded back to the ejection port and the shape of the trigger guard, I would guess that it is an 870.--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 14:45, 25 October 2013 (EDT)

== Unknowns from "Bushwhacked." ==

I found two unknowns in "Bushwhacked" (S01E03). --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:58, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

Jayne loads an unknown revolver before he and Simon go aboard the derelict. It's not his LeMat, since there's a swing-open cylinder. [[Rossi Model 971]]?
[[Image: Firefly_0103_revolver_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image: Firefly_0103_revolver_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
:Thick this is a [http://www.lionseek.com/images/big/guns/9/314953-dan-wesson-445-supermag-and-ammo.jpg Dan Wesson Supermag with an 8" compensated barrel]. Can't find a page worthy pic of this configuration though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:32, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
::This'll do for now:[[File:San Wesson Supermag 8 inch compensated.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Dan Wesson Supermag - .455 Super Magnum]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:44, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Thanks. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:52, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
Commander Harken's ([[Doug Savant]]) two-tone Beretta turns into another pistol in a continuity error. At first I thought it was a Jericho 941, but the barrel looks wrong.
[[Image: Firefly_0103_pistol_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image: Firefly_0103_pistol_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Jayne's guns from "Bushwhacked"==
Have at it. #3 looks like a [[Tru Flite 37mm Super Long Range Gas Gun]]. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:52, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
[[Image: Firefly_0103_guns_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
# is that Magnum Research Lone Eagle with a cosmetic barrel shorud.
# is a modern derringer repro, my guess is an American Derringer Model 1
# is a Tru Flite
# is a LaserAim Series III
# is a SAA "Quick-Draw"
# is an AKMSU (I think, looks like the mag is too curved for a 5.45x39mm)
# is a COP 357 Derringer
:Also, did you spot the Sterling with the forward pistol pistol grip on the far right? You can just make out the magazine well and pistol grip to the right of the SAA. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:13, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
::This is the model of [[Magnum Research Lone Eagle]] that 1 is based on:[[File:Lone eagle short stock.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Magnum Research Lone Eagle - .45-70 Govt]]Don't know what the stock is indicative of though (as in earlier/later or just an option). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:20, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
:::The LaserAim looks like a stunt prop. I thought it might be a Sterling too, but this was the best shot I could get. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:27, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

== Ugh ==

Really, they couldn't hire ONE Mandarin dialect coach? This is painful. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:49, 24 October 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, the throwaway "foreign" language lines in most tv/films are agonizingly bad. Phonetics and basic grammar are only part of the equation, inflection is super important. The few lines of Russian in Boondock Saints were torture to hear. I imagine with a tonal language the potential for messing up is exponentially greater. --[[User:Ruzhyo|Ruzhyo]] ([[User talk:Ruzhyo|talk]]) 15:10, 26 October 2013 (EDT)
:A lot of it is just single words too, not whole sentences. Like in "Shindig," where both Inara and her date say "gou shi," (literally, "dog shit") and they both mangle it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:48, 26 October 2013 (EDT)
::I remember hearing Joss Whedon talk about it once saying they just did straight word replacement from a dictionary rather than actually getting in a Chinese speaking person. However, he then said that it could kind of be justified as in real life it would just be the bastardised versions of swear words and phrases that might be picked up by people and transformed over time. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:58, 26 October 2013 (EDT)
:::The odd thing is, the Chinese life support warning in "Out of Gas" sounds like it's Cantonese. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:15, 30 October 2013 (EDT)

==Unknown from "Jaynestown"==
Jayne is seen taping some sort of pistol to his abdomen in "Jaynestown." It's got a grip like a revolver, but that's about it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:08, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
[[Image: Firefly_0107_unknown_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
:I have seen replicas of this particular gun in the past, and it is supposedly an all plastic "Holdout" pistol suggesting it is a totally fabricated prop rather than having a gun underneath. [http://www.yourprops.com/Jayne-s-Hold-Out-Pistol-original-prop-weapons-Firefly-TV-2002-YP44893.html Here] is a picture of it. TBH, it seems odd that they went to the effort of fabricating a weapon for the second of screentime it got when it just as easily could have been any other sub-compact pistol, so my guess is that it may have been a pre-existing prop that they just appropriated. Also, I think the grips are Pachmayr ones for a J-frame S&W. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:19, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
::I have grips like that for my faux-DS. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:33, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
:::I think they use basically the same grip of r few different guns, but from searching I think these specific ones were for a small frame Rossi. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:40, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
::::Do you know if it shows up again in the remaining episodes? If it does, we might as well wait until it shows up again and I can get a better shot of it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:45, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
:::::I think it is only in Jaynestown, and specifically only in this scene. I think a similar pistol may be used by Jubal Early in "Objects in Space", but am not sure as haven't seen these in a while. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:54, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
::::::Here is an image of the prop taken from the book "Firefly: Still Flying": [[File:Jayne's holdout pistol.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jayne Cobb's Hold-Out Pistol]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:59, 25 October 2013 (EDT)

== Bullpup Mini-14s in Muzzelite stock ==

I'm 99% that those bullpup Mini-14s with the foregrip and scope were originally used in the the 1995 ''Tank Girl'' movie staring Lori Petty. They were the standard rifle for the Water and Power troops--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 20:50, 26 October 2013 (EDT)

== Stun gun? ==

The federal officers that arrest Jayne, Simon and River in "Ariel" (S01E09) are armed with sonic stun guns (?). I figure I'd throw them in for the sake of completion. Any ideas as to what they're made from? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 21:35, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
[[Image: Firefly_0109_stun_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image: Firefly_0109_stun_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

It is a resin copy of the flame rifle from "The 6th Day". The prop company just modified the front end.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 18:38, 7 November 2013 (EST)

== Uniform trivia ==

In the pilot, the Alliance troops are wearing German stahlhelms. It appears they didn't get their hands on those surplus ''[[Starship Troopers]]'' uniforms until the second pilot. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:16, 1 November 2013 (EDT)
[[Image: Firefly_0101_stahlhelm.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

== Jayne's guns from the pilot ==

[[Image: Firefly_0101_stash_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Unknown shotgun from "War Stories" ==
One of Niska's henchmen from "War Stories" is armed with an unknown shotgun. I can't even tell if it's supposed to be a pump or an automatic. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:22, 7 November 2013 (EST)
[[Image: Firefly_0110_shotgun_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image: Firefly_0110_shotgun_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
:Based on the sharp corner at the rear of the receiver and the perforated heat shield around the barrel I would guess it is the same FABARM that is in Jayne's collection. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:59, 7 November 2013 (EST)
::Oh, there it is. I hadn't come across that episode yet. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:11, 7 November 2013 (EST)

==Table of grenades==
I THINK the black ones are M67s. I think there are M18s in there as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:22, 7 November 2013 (EST)
[[Image: Firefly_0110_table_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
:There are two pairs of Sting-Ball type grenades on the table (possibly another in the top left but too shadowy), the ones that have the spherical body with the black band with white writing around the middle. I think the one on the right is a CTS Sting-Ball, but the others have the fuse attaching with a metal collar and lack the honeycomb part around it so they are something else, possibly Han-Ball CS grenades. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:21, 7 November 2013 (EST)
::Oh, I had assumed they were just M67s. They're used as frags in the episode. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:25, 7 November 2013 (EST)
[[Image:Firefly_0110_M67_01.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Wash hands Zoë a pair of grenades in "War Stories" (S1E10).]]
[[Image:Firefly_0110_M67_02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Zoë with a grenade on her hip in "War Stories" (S1E10).]]
[[Image:Firefly_0110_M67_03.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Zoë reaches for a grenade in "War Stories" (S1E10).]]

Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger

2013-11-04T00:23:26Z

Krel: /* Anti-gun */

Schwarzenegger really seems to like Glocks and Desert Eagles.

Desert Eagle is ideal for Arnold's Hands. So's the Minigun :P

Who hasn't used a Glock nowadays? And when you imagine Arnold in a classic action role, you imagine him with a Desert Eagle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:30, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I actually imagine him with a Winchester 1887. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 01:59, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

:I commented on the Glock because he has used many different models in many films. He used three different models in ''[[End of Days]]'' alone.

==Anti-gun==
Is Arnie anti-gun? His state sure is but I don't know how much of that can be laid at his feet and how much is simply the idiotic state legislature’s fault. Does anyone know where this guy stands on Gun Rights? He is a Republican so I would assume he would at least have to pay lip service to being pro second amendment. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:He says he's a conservative only on fiscal issues. He's a moderate on social issues. I did a search on the net, and it looks like he truly is a moderate. (I can't find his NRA ratings in past elections, however.) [http://www.ontheissues.org/governor/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_Gun_Control.htm | Official quotes] [http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=2449 | Pro-gun] [http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=12997 | Anti-gun] --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 03:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::From some of his quotes it sounds like he is more pro gun-control than against. Also, one of the links mentions California's Ammunition Registration program which I had heard of previously and still believe is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard of. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
He signed the law banning .50 caliber rifles in CA. because people thought that they were 'scary' looking. So it appears that his pro-gun beliefs are not firm. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 19:23, 3 November 2013 (EST)

==Pictures==

I think it's safe to say he has the most screencaps of any actor page. Almost too many I'd daresay. Of course I'm partially guilty of it myself, but still. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:23, 15 July 2011 (CDT)

== Arnie's guns ==

On his page should we list his arms among the guns he has used. :) A Shootist

Talk:The Spy Who Loved Me

2013-03-20T01:29:42Z

Krel: /* Unknown Q Branch rifle */

== Jaws' revolver in the car chase ==

Does this pic help?

http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/movies/tswlm.php3

Last picture on the page.--[[User:TheHeartbreakKid15|TheHeartbreakKid15]] 17:44, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

::Please also take into account Richard's hands are HUGE. I just shook the man's hands not ten hours ago ;) And they're gigantic! :) His hands are the only ones where a Desert Eagle .50 or a Mod 29 look tiny. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:49, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

No way! You met Richard Kiel?! Ugh, so jealous right now. My major claims to fame so far are working with Russell Crowe and meeting Cate Blanchett in Robin Hood. I might camp out in Barbara Broccolli's parking space at Pinewood and beg her for a part in the next Bond :P --[[User:TheHeartbreakKid15|TheHeartbreakKid15]] 20:35, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

:"NB! It is probably a S&W M14 or a Mahurin MR73 target model. The S&W M15 were only made with 2" or 4" before the 1980's. Also,the rear sight doesn't look like something out of the S&W factory,so my bet is on the MR73."

:Above taken from some guy called "Geeman" not knowing what the talk page is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:38, 28 August 2012 (CDT)

[[Image:Richard Kiel "Jaws" signed photo.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:TSWLM Jaws revovler.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Swlm-rev1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Jaws revolver could be an Weihrauch Arminius HW 9 .22lr like seen in this link. [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 18:29, 19 December 2012 (EST)
[[http://www.huntershouse.dk/images/sports/arminius/p7873,arminius-hw9.jpg]]

It is definitely not a .22. Look at third screencap, the holes in the cylinder are way too big. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:46, 17 February 2013 (EST)

== Mauser C96 - extended magazine? ==

Is there a model of the Mauser C96 that has an extended magazine? I just noticed that the gun in this photo has an extra long magazine. [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] 11:35, 18 July 2012 (CDT) [[Image:Swlm-c96.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jaws grabs a Mauser C96 from one of his henchmen to fire at Bond.]]

== Unknown Q Branch rifle ==

I'm having problems uploading the photo, but it's at 53:49 in the movie in the background if you want to check it yourself. It's a pistol grip rifle with all wooden furniture mounted on a tripod with a scope. The stock looks vaguely like an M1 Thompson stock with a different angle. There's a closer view less than a minute earlier as Q picks up the tea tray, but it's out of focus and a tech quickly spins the rifle so all you can see is the butt. It looks vaguely like a Gyrojet carbine, but it's got too long of a barrel, the pistol grip is at an angle, and the stock is somewhat different.[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 15:18, 2 January 2013 (EST)

:[[File:Spywholovedmeunknowntripodrifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:I have no idea what that weapon is. Dudester32 11:56, 19 March 2013 (EDT)
:The stock looks like its been mounted upside down! Dudester32 11:57, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

It is a rifle from the tv series UFO. The show had it's own pistols and rifles which didn't appear to use blanks.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:29, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

The Great Spy Chase (Les Barbouzes)

2013-02-12T03:13:27Z

Krel: /* Unidentified pistol */

{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
|name = Les Barbouzes
|picture = Les Barbouzes-DVD.jpg
|caption = ''DVD Cover''
|country = [[Image:FRA.jpg|25px]] France [[Image:ITA.jpg|25px]] Italy
|director = [[Georges Lautner]]
|date= 1964
|language = French
|studio= Corona Cinematografica, S.N.E. Gaumont
|distributor=Olive Films
|character1=Francis Lagneau
|actor1=[[Lino Ventura]]
|character2=Amaranthe
|actor2=[[Mireille Darc]]
|character3=Commodore O'Brien
|actor3=[[Jess Hahn]]
|character4=Eusebio Cafarelli
|actor4=[[Bernard Blier]]
|character5=Hans Muller
|actor5=[[Charles Millot]]
|character6=Boris Vassiliev
|actor6=[[Francis Blanche]]
|character7=Rossini
|actor7=[[André Weber]]
|character8=Colonel Lanoix
|actor8=[[Noël Roquevert]]
}}

'''''The Great Spy Chase (Les Barbouzes)''''' is a 1964 French cold-war spy parody directed by [[Georges Lautner]]. Starring [[Lino Ventura]], [[Mireille Darc]], [[Bernard Blier]] and [[Jess Hahn]].

'''The following weapons were used in the movie ''The Great Spy Chase (Les Barbouzes)'':'''

__TOC__ 

== Luger P08 ==
Most spies use the [[Luger P08]] with some of them being suppressed.
[[Image:Luger.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:LB-A-Luger-P08.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A spy on a train fires a suppressed Luger P08.]]
[[Image:LB-AW-Luger-P08.jpg‎|thumb|none|550px|Rossini ([[André Weber]]) holds a Luger.]]
[[Image:LB-FB-Luger-P08.jpg‎|thumb|none|550px|Boris Vassiliev ([[Francis Blanche]]) aims his Luger P08.]]
[[Image:LB-Ch-Luger-P08.jpg‎|thumb|none|550px|A Chinese spy holds a suppressed Luger P08.]]

== M1911A1 pistol ==
Francis Lagneau ([[Lino Ventura]]) carries a [[M1911A1]] pistol.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:LB-LV-M1911-0.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]
[[Image:LB-LV-M1911-2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]
[[Image:LB-LV-M1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]

== Walther P38 ==
Some agents use the [[Walther P38]].
[[Image:P38Black.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther P38 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:LB-M-24-Sthg.jpg|thumb|none|550px| A Walther P38 is seen in a spy's equipment baf ]]
[[Image:LB-LV-W-P38.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Francis Lagneau ([[Lino Ventura]]) brandishes his P38.]]
[[Image:LB-ChM-Walther-P38.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Hans Muller ([[Charles Millot]]) holds his [[Walther P38]].]]

== Mauser C96 ==
Hans Muller ([[Charles Millot]]) has a [[Mauser C96]] as his weapon of choice.
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mauser C96 "Broomhandle" - 7.63x25mm Mauser.]]
[[Image:LB-ChM-Mauser-C96.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]

== Star Ruby Pistol ==
Boris Vassiliev ([[Francis Blanche]]) draws a [[Star Ruby Pistol]].
[[Image:Star Ruby Cebra.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Star Ruby .32 ACP - Cebra Model]]
[[Image:LB-FB-Star-Ruby.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]

== Astra 400 ==
A few spies also carry the [[Astra 400]].
[[Image:Astra_400.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Astra 400 (9 mm Bergmann-Bayard caliber)]]
[[Image:LB-BeB-Astra-400.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Eusebio Cafarelli ([[Bernard Blier]]) (left man, pistol in his left hand) fires his Astra 400.]]
[[Image:LB-Ch-Astra-400.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The Chinese spy on the right reloads his [[Astra 400]]. Note that his buddy's Luger P08 is empty, locking the toggle mechanism open.]]

== Unidentified pistol ==
Chinese spy uses a suppressed unidentified pistol.
[[Image:LB-Ch-UiP-sil.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]

It looks like a Vostok Margolin target pistol. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 22:13, 11 February 2013 (EST)

== Belgian Velo-Dog Revolver ==
Eusebio Cafarelli ([[Bernard Blier]]) is armed with a [[Belgian Velo-Dog Revolver]].
[[Image:VELO-DOG.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Belgian Velo-Dog Revolver - 5.75mm Velo-Dog]]
[[Image:LB-BeB-Velodog.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]

== Bergmann MP35/I ==
Hans Muller ([[Charles Millot]]) used a [[Bergmann MP35/I]] in the shooting range.
[[File:MP35a.jpg‎ ‎‎|thumb|none|350px|Bergmann MP35/I]]
[[Image:LB-Bergmann-MP35.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]

== F1 hand grenade ==
The spies had in their shelters also a [[F1 hand grenade]] (right) and a [[Mills Bomb]] (left).
[[Image:F1_Mle35_hand_grenade.JPG|thumb|none|450px|F1 High-Explosive Fragmentation grenade]]
[[Image:LB-MB+F1-Hg.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]

== Mills Bomb style grenade==
[[Image:Mills Bomb SGM-1.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mills Bomb High-Explosive Fragmentation grenade]]
[[Image:LB-MB+F1-Hg.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]

== Model 24 Stielhandgranate ==
A [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]] is seen on a spy.
[[Image:24-43_grenade.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Model 24 Stielhandgranate]]
[[Image:LB-M-24-Sthg.jpg|thumb|none|550px|]]

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[[Category:Comedy]]
[[Category:Thriller]]
[[Category:Georges Lautner]]
[[Category:French Produced/Filmed]]
[[Category:Italian Produced/Filmed]]

Talk:Last Resort

2012-12-16T02:08:34Z

Krel: /* 21 Gun Salute? */

== Holster ==

What kind of holster is this?

[[File:LastRS1E01 109.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Closeup of King's SIG in "Captain" (S1E01).]]

:Think it is an [http://www.centermassfirearms.com/accessories/holsters/uncle-mike-s-kydex-paddle-holster-for-sig-p220-and-p226.html Uncle Mike's Kydex holster]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:36, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
::The one in the show has a button release. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:07, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
:::Where's the button, I can't see it in that image. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:09, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
:::Oh wait, nevermind. I thought his index finger is over a button cause there's an indention [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 09:52, 2 October 2012 (EDT)

::::There seems to be a continuity error with the SIG, too. In the second screenshot, he's using an early-model P226 with a stamped slide, but the one in the holster is a newer generation model (probably a P226R), as evidenced by the milled slide with external extractor. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 12:55, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

:::::Just watched Episode 6, and King's P226 is definitely a P226 E2. It only seems to be in the first part of Episode 1 that he and the other SEALs use the older-generation 226s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 00:46, 9 November 2012 (EST)

== M4gery? ==

Is this guy's M4's barrel a bit too long? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 21:37, 5 October 2012 (EDT)

[[File:LastRS1E02 M4 long barrel.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I think it is a regular M4. On first glance I thought it looked long, but when I actually measured it, I think it is about right. I think there is kind of an optical illusion with the front sight blending in with the guys arm making the exposed length of barrel appear longer. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:19, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

== Woodland Camo ==
Aren't the woodland BDUs worn by the Russians very outdated for the US Army, especially Delta, who I believe issues Multicam. Shouldn't this have revealed to the Colorado Crew that these weren't real American SF operators. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] ([[User talk:SmithandWesson36|talk]]) 22:19, 5 October 2012 (EDT)

*insert the Navy is stupid joke*. We would be able to tell just from the guns in general. Like why would Delta be using old style CAR-15s? But at least the Russians are wearing Woodland camo while all the Navy guys got the blue camo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:07, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

: Maybe they wear any camo to not give away their identity (if actual Delta Force)? I dunno. I could be wrong. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:32, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

::It isn't that farfetched to assume that American SF would wear camouflage that is suitable to the environment they are operating in. For instance, American SF troops (Green Berets and MARSOC) have continued to wear woodland BDUs in Afghanistan and the Philippines. Since the island is mostly jungle, woodland BDUs would probably have been what actual American SF troops would've been wearing in those circumstances. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] ([[User talk:Markit|talk]]) 02:19, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

:Agree on that. I believe that Spetsnaz commandos wore them so that they won't be easily identified as Russian SOF. IIRC, this is a doctrine most SF are trained to do. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 04:22, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

Good point. I think aside from the CAR-15s, it would have been impossible to tell they weren't US troops. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 11:58, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

:Realistically, there's no reason US SOF like Delta wouldn't use older 733s, 653s, etc., if the mission parameters called for it (same goes for Russians and M4s; who's to say they don't have them kitted out just like we do for any possible use they might be?), while production and use of the M81 woodland pattern is quite widespread in the world, making it a good, effective pattern for covert use in jungle environments. But with all that said, I ''have'' seen pics of FSB special troops and alleged Alfa commandos wearing multicam, so that pattern isn't unique to US forces, either. As for the Ruskies in the show using them, my guess is that maybe all of the armor's M4s were passed out to the crew of the Colorado, leaving none left over. Another possibility is that it was done so that people like us who are familiar with what the US military uses could squint our eyes and say, "Hey, something's not right here..." The latter was certainly my reaction. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:11, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
::That's not a good reason saying there is no reason. Why would our SF uses out dated weapons in a situation like this? It's like in that one movie The Green Zone where all the SF guys had CAR-15s [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 12:11, 9 November 2012 (EST)
:::I don't presume, or even ''want'', to know, what the operational standards of assaulting an island held by a rogue, nuclear-armed US Navy sub captain, but if the unit doing it were to deem CAR-15s suitable, then they sure would use them. But as I also said, it's likely all the on-set armorer's M4s were passed out to the Colorado's crew that day and these were just used because they looked most like an M4. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:08, 14 December 2012 (EST)

==CAR-15s?==

Can someone watch the episode again because I am not sure what kind of CAR-15s those are. They look like 733s because of the short barrels and the suppressors but now I'm not sure. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 12:18, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

:They certainly look like 733s, but the suppressors leave a bit of ambiguity due to some models, such as the AAC M4-2000, covering longer portions of the barrel than the typically-issued KAC cans. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:11, 19 October 2012 (EDT)

== 21 Gun Salute? ==

In Episode 3, Kendal talks about the Captain's son getting a 21 Gun salute. What is he talking about? I thought only heads of state receive that honor. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 01:56, 17 October 2012 (EDT)

Its probably just one of the many shows mistakes, its not like its act of valor. --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:22, 17 October 2012 (EDT)

Only the president gets a 21 Gun salute. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:13, 10 November 2012 (EST)

This is a pretty common mistake. They confused a 21-gun salue with a three-volley salue. The 21-gun salute comes from naval traditions, and are performed with actual guns (i.e. cannons or other artillery pieces). The three-volley salute is performed with rifles by members of an honor guard during a military funeral. The tradition comes from the custom of firing three shots in the air to signal that all dead and wounded have been removed from the battlefield. The rifle party is usally made up of 7 members, so they end up firing a total of 21 rounds. As a result, people mistake it for a 21-gun salute. In addition, three shell casings are included with the folded flag as "proof" the honor was rendered. They are said to represent duty, honor, and country. [[User:APS221|APS221]] ([[User talk:APS221|talk]]) 18:32, 14 December 2012 (EST)

When my father died, the Marines sent an Honor Guard with seven riflemen. He received a thee-volley salute and in addition to the three shell casings in in the flag, each of the riflemen kept a shell casing. I don't know if this is normal, or if it is just a Marine tradition.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 21:08, 15 December 2012 (EST)

== MP5K selector ==
Anyone else notice that despite King clearly firing his MP5K on full-auto, close-ups showed the selector in the burst position? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:08, 14 December 2012 (EST)
:I noticed that, in fact bother of them appear to be firing in full auto with the selector set to 3 round burst. There are several explanations:
:*First is that they are using replicas and are just mining with CGI effects. I don't think this is the case as the muzzle flash doesn't look fake, and you can see casings along with smoke coming out of the ejection port.
:*Second, is that the guns have a regular safe/semi/auto trigger group inside a burst housing. Not sure if the selector and pictograms would line up like this, but is a possibility as the FA setting on a regular navy lower is much neared to semi than on a burst lower.
:*Third, is that the guns are actually firing in burst, but the editing and sound effects are misleading. For example, at the start of the shoot out when King and Sam are being a fork lift truck, you can see that whilst firing King is continuously pulling the trigger on hid MP5K, as if it is firing in bursts but he is trying to fire continuously.
:--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:24, 14 December 2012 (EST)
:Those muzzle flashes looked CGI to me. It's happened a couple of times on this show actually when I've been watching it and thinking that the flashes were added in post production. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 17:08, 15 December 2012 (EST)

Talk:Battlestar Galactica (2004)

2012-12-10T04:39:44Z

Krel: /* Feather AT-9 Pistol / Cylon smg */ new section

==Spaceart images==

[[Image:Bsg008-d.jpg|thumb|none|508px|Battlestar Galactica: MP7 Blaster]]
[[Image:Bsg008-b.jpg|thumb|none|508px|Battlestar Galactica: MP7 Blaster]]
[[Image:Bsg008-h.jpg|thumb|none|508px|Battlestar Galactica: MP7 Blaster]]
[[Image:Bsg008-f.jpg|thumb|none|508px|Battlestar Galactica: MP7 Blaster]]

==Incorrect image caption==
Under Seburo MN-23, the last image is captioned ''"Leobin [sic] being left behind on the Ragnar station by Galactica security"''. The figure in this image is not Leoben, it is Aaron Doral (Number 5)[http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Number_Five Number 5 on Battlestar wiki]. It would change it myself, but I don't have an account.
Great wiki by the way!
Thanks. --[[Special:Contributions/86.132.238.130|86.132.238.130]] 14:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I guess it can be changed, but unlike most of the other cylons, except for caparca 6, Leobin is the name used for the guy anyway. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

:I corrected the caption and added the cylon numbers. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 02:46, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

[[Seburo MN-23]]

I was looking through some stuff on Wikipedia the other day and I stumbled across an article about the "Magpul PDR". When I looked at the article I was oddly surprised to see that the concept design for the weapon looks close to this fictional rifle's design.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Magpul_personal_defense_rifle_line_art.jpg --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 15:50, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Seburo MN-23 looks like a a SMG from Borderlands

I wonder why the MN-23 or the Raisen wasn't used later in the series as a non firing prop to show more futuristic weapons since they showed P90s but never fired them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

==Gun on a ship==
It would not be a little dangerous to shoot firearms in a well-armored Battlestar? Couldn't bullets rebound and wound shooters? And, if they never saw Earth, why they carry some apparently Earth well-known guns like Kalašnikovs and Makarovs?
:That's one thing that bothered me too, especially on New Caprica. We're talking about a previously uninhabited planet, and yet the guerrillas had plentiful assault rifles, submachine guns, etc. It'd be one thing if they were picking them off the enemy, but the skinjobs were lightly armed, with the centurions carrying anything heavier. The only explanation I can think of is that the arms came from one of the other vessels that landed, like the Prometheus (the black market ship.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 17:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

:: Actually you get the impression that the weapons were all cached in and around the settlement "just in case". There are several mentions in the episodes on New Caprica of how things were planned out in case things went to hell. Specifically the Raptor which appears to listen for any broadcasts from the surface. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::The Raptor was only on station after the Cylons arrived though. And while it would make sense to hide some weapons caches in case the worst happens, we're talking about a group of people who are short on medical supplies and basically living in a glorified refugee camp, with practically no military or police force available to keep order. (There were few marines to start with, and I never saw any LEOs other than the president's bodyguards.) Giving those people access to a cache of automatic weapons seems to be a ticket to anarchy. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::That's what I am saying. The Raptor was only put on station after the Cylons arrived according to a prearranged plan between Adama and Tigh not on the random chance that the humans on New Caprica would be broadcasting some sort of SOS (look at this link http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Occupation) under "Act I" the 11th point I believe mentions that. It would go without saying then that the weapons were known only to a select few and, by the same point, trained or semi-trained personnel (most of the shooters on the ground were either former Galactica, Pegasus or Anders' people). --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Right, I forgot. But they had to figure out that the Cylons would have lists of former military personnel and keep close tabs on them if not neutralize them outright, and Anders couldn't have brought that many people back from Caprica. And if they had a plan, you'd think they wouldn't have let the military readiness on both ships fall so far behind. If the arms caches were placed there before the Cylons came however, it's strange that most of them are non-military weapons, like Soviet-bloc weapons. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 01:01, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:Well they never actually named any of the firearms used in the series. They just used them as props. It would be cost too much for "laser" gun special effects, and it would also cost a lot to invent prop guns or shells around existing guns anyway. But I've always wondered about the Cx4 and it is referred to as a "rifle". It fires a pistol round. It also seems that Galactica has a huge stockpile of guns and ammo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::The producers wanted to use "real world" technology, so they used kinetic weapons instead of lasers like in the original. That's why the Cylons used nukes to destroy the colonies, and not some death ray, or whatever the hell they did in the original. (They weren't really clear.) They also never wanted to be really specific with technical details, so they wouldn't be constrained later on. (Thus, no BSG technical manual.) As for ammo, they were able to draw ammo and munitions from a remote armory in the mini-series, and later on, it was shown that the Galactica (and presumably the Pegasus) had ammo production facilities on board. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 03:17, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::: IN the original series (and canon books & fiction), the Cylons just shot the hell out of the planets with their standard weapons. Swarms of Cylon raiders scanned the entire surface of the planet with their life signs indicators and sent down troops to exterminate the humans. Really, really inefficient way to do things. In the original pilot (and recut theatrical movie of the pilot) Cylons are seen conveying the message that they are rounding up humans on the planet and exterminating them. The humans trying to barter for their lives is how the Cylons first discovered that a fleet of ships escaped the Genocide, led by the Galactica, but in the end are killed. And yes, the Galactica and Pegases had their own ammo production facilities on the ship. You figure a ship that huge would have a lot of storage space (not living space which requires more heat and breathable air and 'other facilities') in which to store vast quantities of materials to make stuff with). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
::::I just remember shots of the Cylon raiders making strafing runs in the original. I thought it was a bit confusing because I didn't think strafing was the most effective way to commit genocide, especially on twelve colonies. I also saw the original after I saw the new one, and the new one had the cylons using nukes, which made much more sense. I never saw the theatrical cut, just whatever was on the DVD. As for ammo production, I don't think they brought that up until Season 3, so for two years, I just kept wondering, "they have run out of ammo sometime, right?" --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 22:39, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::The only thing I can think was that Galactica's Marines did not engage in many all out firefights except on Cobol and the whole thing on New Caprica and, perhaps, the finale on the Cylon "Colony". In addition in the pilot the Galactica cleans out Ragnar station, a munitions depot leaving only the bare walls. It, possibly, could be similar to a U.S. Navy carrier cleaning out all the magazines at Norfolk. As well, on the "original" series, there is brief mention, in the two part Pegasus episode specifically, that Colonial capital ships could fire nuclear missiles so it would seem somewhat logical that Cylon ships could do so as well. Perhaps the Cylons used a combined strafing/missile attack? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well, I wasn't thinking about small arms ammo as much as ammo for the main battery and the AA guns, as well as the ammo for the Vipers' cannons, and they went through that stuff pretty almost every episode. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 00:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It seems to imply at many points in the series that the Fleet mines asteroids and other planets and objects for raw materials to manufacture things with. In either season 2 or 3 there is a mention of the fleet starting to manufacture new Vipers. If they could refine materials to make spaceships it should have been rather easy to make ammunition of all calibers. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::::::The Cylons are seen wiping entire cities out with cluster nuclear weapons (at least a dozen MIRVs per missle, a few missles per baseship), so yeah, strafing seems underpowered. Can't kill too many during a genocide, though.

== Where did the "edit" button go? ==
Sorry folks, I'm just an amateur, but I wanted to add that the Striker's caliber is close to that of the pistol-mounted "microgrenade launcher", making its role explained. Anyway, who would go after a Centurion with buckshot?--[[Special:Contributions/46.138.168.34|46.138.168.34]] 18:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it was a slug or explosive shotgun shells. They DO make those and also you can edit unless you are a registered member of this site and do research. The Striker has been used many times in TV and movies in place of a grenade launcher. The show's not saying that a real Striker can fire grenades but saying that it's a stand in for a grenade launcher [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

== Feather AT-9 Pistol / Cylon smg ==

According to a prop maker that worked on the series, this is a completely fabricated, blank-firing weapon. It was created for the show, and only two were made. He mentioned this on a post on the RPF, about the new Colonial pistol that he made for Caprica, but was never used. It is now being used in the Blood and Chrome series --[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 23:39, 9 December 2012 (EST)

Talk:Karin Dor

2012-10-05T02:44:24Z

Krel:

Did she actually use the Gyrojet in the film through? If she only held it in promotional materials, does it count? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:29, 4 October 2012 (EDT)I do not remember this movie, it's too long, when i seen this. I do not know what there had a role, but on the picture is with a bisard weapon, right? I was especially strange, that Bond girl is missing in the actors database. I ´m this new fact to writed in a notes.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:24, 4 October 2012 (EDT)
:Okay, all I got from that is that you haven't seen it in a long time. What else? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:31, 4 October 2012 (EDT)Also here I miss her partner from the second image! it is possible that the famous "Blue Eyed" Terence Hill has not yet been established?!?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:34, 4 October 2012 (EDT)
[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7zqxqifTI1qh0yodo1_500.jpg Karin Dor with a gun] - What's holding Karin in hand here?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:41, 4 October 2012 (EDT)
--It's a toy, most probably a cap gun--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 22:44, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

Sphinx AT-380

2012-09-25T02:50:27Z

Krel: /* Film */

The Sphinx AT 380 pistol was used in the following media:

[[Image:Sphinx-AT380.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Sphinx AT380 - .380 ACP]]
==Specifications==
(1993 - Present)

* '''Type:''' Pistol

* '''Caliber:''' .380 ACP

* '''Weight:''' 1.6 lbs (0.7 kg)

* '''Length:''' 6 in (15 cm)

* '''Barrel length:''' 3.25 in (8.3 cm)

* '''Capacity:''' 10-round magazine

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto (DAO)

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===Film===
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|-
| ''[[Strange Days]]'' || [[Angela Bassett]] || Loretta "Mace" Mason || || 1995
|-
| ''[[Assassins]]'' || [[Antonio Banderas]] || Miguel Bain || AT380M || 1995
|-
| ''[[Right Temptation, The|The Right Temptation]]'' || [[Rebecca De Mornay]] || Derian McCall || || 2000
|-
| ''[[Beyond the City Limits]]'' || [[Nastassja Kinski]] || Misha || || 2001
|-
| ''[[Beyond the City Limits]]'' || [[Steve Harris]] || Troy || || 2001
|-
| ''[[The Puppet Masters]]'' || [[Eric Thal]] || Sam Nivens || || 1994
|}

=== Television ===
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| ''[[Heroes]]'' || || various characters || || 2006 - 2010
|-
| ''[[Southland]]'' || || gangmember || S02E02 || 2010
|-
|}
 

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Talk:Blade Runner

2012-06-27T02:34:21Z

Krel:

unmistakebly the best science fiction movie. i love all 7 versions of this film. one of the best ending lines ever." I've Seen Things You people Wouldnt believe . Attack ships On Fire off THe Shore Of Orion. I've Watched Sea Beams Glitter In the dankness at tan Hauser gate. All those moments will be lost , like tears in rain' i love it . [[User: Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]
:Agreed, while I haven't watched all versions, it definitely is one of my all-time favorite movie. That is also my favorite line. --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 03:00, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

== Erm... ==

We really need a cleanup template for things like this. This is a mess. Most of it needs moving to a fictional gun page for the LAPD 2019 blaster. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:33, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

== Syd Mead Blaster ==

I have read that Syd Mead's Blaster is suppose to be in the movie as a telephone on a desk or table. I think in one of the Police Department scenes. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 21:34, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows

2012-06-15T02:58:52Z

Krel: /* Suppressor */

== Unidentified Rifle ==

I think it's safe to say that these aren't Gewehr 1898s. See below. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:35, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:MG98b-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The magazine that extends out of the rifle.]]
[[Image:MG98c-AGOS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Muzzle looks weird. ]]

Gewehr 1888's? It's got the fat muzzle. And the Austro-Hungarian Army did use a licensed copy. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German_GEW_88.jpg] --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:48, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

Also, the rifle in the trailer has a visible magazine , the 98 does not have one. -G36Ghost.

== Mauser M712 ==

In the trailer between 32-34 seconds an unknown character can be seen loading a mazing into a C-96 pattern pistol, implying the M712. I would include this but am still somewhat unfamiliar with Wiki editing, and more importantly, how to upload a picture. Not to shirk responsibility, but if someone more knowledgeable can do it, thanks. --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 21:28, 28 October 2011 (CDT)

: Its most definitly a M712. The character using it describes it as using a 10 round box magazine, and even accurately notes it firing a 7.63 caliber round. He tells Holmes his revolver is a relic, in comparison. Edit: I believe that the useage of a detachable box magazine makes it a M712 right away. I think we should remove the C96 title from the entry on the main page. -MissySummers-

== Man portable machine gun ==

There was a scene where Watson took hold of a weird weapon that looks like nothing I've ever seen before and fits a top shiny banana shaped magazine and was firing it full auto [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:22, 17 December 2011 (CST)

The closest I can come is a Beretta M1918, though I have a feeling that's incorrect.[[User:pastorhack]]

:From how cumbersome and awkward it looked, think it could be a Villar-Perosa OVP M1918, the regular automatic carbine version of the [[Villar-Perosa submachine gun]]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:58, 18 December 2011 (CST)

::Just noticed that it is actually visible for a few frames in the trailer:
::[[File:SH2 trailer SMG.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
::To me this doesn't look like and OVP or a Beretta M1918, so am stumped. Neither of these guns have a magazine well like this. The profile of the barrel looks a bit like the OVP but it is too thick. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that this weapon is mockup up from something else. This gun doesn't seem to have any sights, and that silver bit behind the magazine could be the receiver of a donor weapon which has a conventional layout. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:15, 18 December 2011 (CST)

It's a mocked-up Villar-Perosa--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:54, 18 December 2011 (CST)

It really does look like a Villar-Persoa. So do we put this on the page? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:55, 1 January 2012 (CST)

Are we sure it's actually a Villar-Perosa that was used? I saw the movie and the gun resembled a scaled-down version of the 1895 light-weight Maxim that had been adapted for a Villar-Perosa style box feed. I admit I never got a really good look at the entire weapon, but it seemed to have the same kind of pistol grip that you would find on a Maxim. So I don't think we can say the weapon was intended to be a Villar-Perosa, and unless we can get some behind the scenes info on the production we have no idea what was used to construct it.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 13:41, 1 January 2012 (CST)

It looks like an early Bren prototype because of the curved magazine--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 17:21, 20 January 2012 (CST)
:First off, it clearly isn't a bren, as the bren has a much larger magazine for starters, and generally looks nothing like this. Below is a picture of the Villar-Perosa OVP M1918 Automatic Carbine:
:[[File:Villar-perosa 1918.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
:There is definitely a similarity but there are quite a few differences which I think mean it is not an actual OVP: the barrel is too thick and lacks a front sight, the curvature of the magazine looks too severe and the base plate is different, genuine OVPs don't have a protruding magazine well and lastly the film gun has an odd boxy stainless steel structure behind the magazine. I still think it is a different submachine gun that has been flipped over and modified to look like an OVP, but until Bluray screenshots are available it is very hard to tell. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:22, 20 January 2012 (CST)
:: I don't believe the weapon is supposed to represent the OVP, and in fact I don't think it is supposed to represent an actual real world weapon. From what I could see, the only aspect of the gun that resembled the OVP is the magazine, the gun itself looks like it was inspired by the 1895 light weight Maxim. At one point in the film a number of the guns are shown sitting on a table in the weapons factory, it's only a quick shot but I'm sure the they had pistol grips that resembled the type found on a Maxim. IMO, the propmaster was tasked with providing some form of man portable machine gun for this film, and the best solution was a hybrid of two real world weapons in order to create something that looked like it could have existed in 1891.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 00:10, 21 January 2012 (CST)
I always figured that the anachronistic guns were meant to be prototypes developed by Moriarty's weapons designers and were taken after his demise and the liquidation of his assets. The gun is clearly heavily inspired by the Villar-Perosa, but likely isn't necessarily meant to represent the Villar-Perosa. In this universe, the design was taken and made into the double-gun by an Italian designer as a way of increasing its firepower. It's an easy explanation for all the anachronistic weapons. Now the question is whether the gun was a real weapon converted and dressed up or a non-firing prop with CGI or pyro for the gunfire. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 07:13, 18 April 2012 (CDT)
== Anachronistic ==

this movie actualy takes place in 1891 and not 1882 as this artical states --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 14:03, 18 December 2011 (CST)

The text states 1892. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:16, 18 December 2011 (CST)

:I saw this movie today. 1891 has been mentioned twice. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:09, 30 December 2011 (CST)

::Yep. The original story, "The Final Problem", was also set in 1891. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 07:55, 15 January 2012 (CST)

== shotgun ==

one of the men on the train looked like the had a shotgun?

Correct. One of the soldiers had a Winchester 1887. Hard to tell if it was 10 gauge or 12. --[[User:Bad Boy|Bad Boy]] 23:36, 24 December 2011 (CST)

I actually thought that was a Martini-Henry, which would make sense for British soldiers of the time to be using. I guess it could be a (rather rare) Greener Prison Shotgun, which would look similar, in which case it would be 14 gauge. [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 08:13, 1 January 2012 (CST)

I've seen images of the Greener shotgun and it looks nothing like an 1887. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:51, 1 January 2012 (CST)

Sorry for the imprecise wording, I meant similar to a Martini-Henry. I could very well be wrong about it being that, I didn't get a particularly good look at it and I suppose the 1887 being in the previous film lends some credence to that idea. [[User:Jimmoy|Jimmoy]] 15:17, 1 January 2012 (CST)

I just bought the movie and the shotgun was a Winchester 1887. [[User:Balin21|Balin21]] 10:40 14 June 2012 (CST)

== The Forest Scene ==

Is it just me, or was that the best action scene in a movie in the last five years? I can't be the only one who thinks this. It was intense, well shot, and surprisingly innovative in the way it moved the camera and used high-speed film. It was completely awesome. I'd also like to figure out what make of cannon that was that the bad guys (and Watson, earlier) were using. -Cutter9792 (1/1/2012)

No it wasn't. In fact, the slow mo ramping up effect is very dated and a bit annoying after 300 did it. There are plenty of movies that have far superior action scenes [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:33, 1 January 2012 (CST)

== Single shot pistol ==

During the scene on the train I am quite sure that I saw a small single shot pistol, used to dispatch one of the maxim gun crew. Anybody get a look at that?

It looked like a Colt .41 RF derringer. I suspect if it was then it was one of the modern replicas in .22 short.

I think it was the C sharps pepperbox like the one in the first movie--[[User:Coltmth|Coltmth]] 20:06, 20 January 2012 (CST)

== Interesting Observation ==

There are double anachronisms in both films:

Sherlock Holmes 1: Suppressed Nagant Model 1895

Sherlock Holmes 2: Selective Mauser Model 1896

And judging by the pattern, Sherlock Holmes 3 gonna have "*adjective/adjectival participle starting with "S"* *Designer/Manufacturer* Model 1897".

--[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 08:28, 15 January 2012 (CST)

* I believe the suggestion in both films is that they're not meant to be the "Nagant 1895" or the "Mauser C96", but rather new weapons of a design that would only later be commercialized. The Nagant could be explained away as a modification to a contemporary revolver by Holmes himself, while it's quite clearly suggested that Moriarty's been manufacturing some highly advanced weapons for the war he plans on starting. After his death, the designs were probably confiscated and later used as the basis for the weapons as we know them today, like the apparent Villar-Perosa and the Mauser.[[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 07:13, 18 April 2012 (CDT)

::That's what I interpreted it as as well - all the anachronistic guns seen were just advanced prototypes made by Moriarty, in an alternative history "this-is-where-they-first-came-from" kind of way.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 05:25, 18 April 2012 (CDT)

== Suppressor ==

Were sound suppressors even concieved back in the 1890's ? [[User:EoghanG93|EoghanG93]] 11:58, 14 June 2012 (CDT)

Hiram Maxim marketed the first commercial silencer about 1902. Don't know how long he worked on the device though. I remember an episode of "Gunsmoke" where a killer was using a silencer he had invented on his rifle, so it has been done before in media. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 21:58, 14 June 2012 (CDT)

Talk:10th Victim, The (La decima vittima)

2012-05-25T03:56:35Z

Krel:

== Unidentified pocket pistol ==
Due to its double barrels the pistol looks like some kind of [[derringer]]. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:02, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks for the tip! Although it is not one specifically ukázaných, but I believe that this series of weapons.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 16:29, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

:I think they are two different pistols. The second one held by Ursula Andress could be a [[American Derringer DA 38]]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:41, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

[[Image:Ursula Andress-pockett pistol-detail.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
No doubt about it, he had a more pocket guns. One in your pocket, in one leg and one in a trailer in the mattress.:) However, is different from it, is a unknown model.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 17:06, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

:Also the first one is not a COP derringer as that was made in 1983. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:59, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

The pistol in the two photos that is suppose to be a Browning Hi-Power, looks more like a Beretta M1934/35. It is certainly too small to be a Hi-Power. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 22:56, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Prometheus

2012-05-25T03:38:17Z

Krel:

Made a start on a Prometheus(trailer) page, hope it's ok. --[[User:Sidewinder Forge|Sidewinder Forge]] 07:19, 23 December 2011 (CST)
:Be sure to look over the changes I've made to get a better understanding of proper page formatting and categorizing.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:03, 23 December 2011 (CST)

Hmm, a prequal to the Alien series? Let me guess. The plot should go like this judging by the trailers: the crew of Prometheus, who are watched by the Weyland company from the Aliens quadrilogy, are on some sort of archeological discovery about ancient human civilizations being aware of the existence of alien life forms, which are in fact the Space Jockeys. The Space Jockeys are what appears to be members of an ancient empire that died off many years ago. Whatever was left of the empire retreated to LV-416. They embark on a journey of discovery and find LV-416. There, they discover the Space Jockeys' habitat. After the first encounter with the Space Jockeys' habitat becomes chaotic (possibly one of the crew becomes impregnated or something as in Alien), they discover the derelict spacecraft from Alien. They learn that the Space Jockeys are planning on shipping unhatched "facehungers" to Earth using the spacecraft and destroy Earth with these biological weapons. Whatever is left of the crew then sacrifice themselves to prevent the spacecraft from departing LV-416. Before they die, a transmission is sent from the planet as a warning to humanity. The transmission cuts short due to some other problems and Weyland keeps the information of this whole mission in secret. Then, several centuries later, Weyland decides to recover whatever Prometheus collected and sends their best crew, Ripley's mining team, over to the planet while disguising this "special mission" as a typical mining operation. To make sure it progresses well, they insert an android named "Ash" into Ripley's team and commands Ash to do whatever is necessary to retrieve their "package", even at the expense of the crew's lives. From there, it sets the stage for the Alien quadrilogy. The End. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 03:03, 13 May 2012 (CDT)

You mean LV-426.[[User:poppabear|poppabear]]

Also, this movie is set in 2073, if you know the canon of the Alien quadrilogy, "Alien" was set in 2122. That's only 49 years later, not centuries --[[User:Burton123|Burton123]] 07:49, 18 May 2012 (CDT)

So by that logic in barely half a century, this awesome and very contemporary rifle that was made for the new movie prequel, turns into the Pulse Rifle, which looks like what the 80s thought future weapons will look like. Though to be honest, the Storm Rifle looks like the Pulse rifle in a different color scheme with a longer barrel and an optic, and it first 5.56 instead of 10mm. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:32, 18 May 2012 (CDT)

The Storm Rifle wasn't made for the film. That's a CGI image made for viral marketing only. It's not in the movie.--[[User:James3|James3]] 17:01, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

"Alien" was suppose to take place right after the United States Tricentennial. That is what the red and white triangular shaped patch on their uniforms represented. Depending on the travel time in suspended animation (in the Aliens universe, it takes time to travel between the stars), about 2077 to 2079 is when "Alien" took place, a century after the movie was filmed. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 21:17, 18 May 2012 (CDT)

No, many canon sources state that "Aliens" & "Alien 3" are set in 2179. Ripley had been drifting for 57 years since "Alien" so that gives you the year 2122. Regardless of whether Ridley Scott intended Alien to be set in 2079, subsequent films gave a specific date for their setting, therefore it is easy to give "Alien" a definitive date by working backward. It can be assumed that Ridley Scott then moved his original "Alien" date of "late 21st century" to this movie in order not to break established canon. --[[User:Burton123|Burton123]] 06:06, 20 May 2012 (CDT)

Yes, the costume designer says that the patches commemorated America's Tricentennial, and I believe that it was also stated as such in the making of Alien book. Although I don't believe that the movie ever stated a year, just that they spent an extra ten months in transit, with the same going home. But I'm going to be obstinate and stick with the costume designer, 2079. :) --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 23:39, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Fair enough, but the evidence as stands has been thoroughly researched & compiled from multiple sources here: http://time.absoluteavp.com/index.html

As to the date given for this film's setting I seem to recall it being in the 2070's or something similar. I guess we'll see when it's released :) --[[User:Burton123|Burton123]] 06:15, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

Wow! I thought that, that site went away years ago, thanks. I don't think that you can really compare the time line of this movie to "Alien" films. I have read that Ridley Scott has said that it isn't a prequel to "Alien", but rather a movie that uses the Alien universe, but with changes. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 22:38, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

=Rifle=
'''Secondly, Weyland introduced a targeting system that is able to identify and track its targets 500 km away, and also compensate for any and all ballistic factors (including different atmospheric pressure and density in off-world environment). Thirdly, a new 5.56 round was developed, with a bullet made of off-world materials (or, alternatively, uranium carbide) and able to travel quickly and almost indefinitely. The «modern» Storm rifle of 2073 is extremely light (1.3 kg), being made of micro-perforated titanum alloy, and is supposedly equipped with an underbarrel pump-action 30mm grenade launcher'''

Please tell me someone isn't serious. Am I supposed to belive that a rifle is able to track a target ''300 miles away???'' That's way, ''way'', over the horizon. And 1.3 kg weight? Is it made of air? That's less than 3 pounds, or slightly heavier than an M1911 and lighter than any rifle in history. What idiot wrote the specs on this thing? Does it have a "barrel thing that goes up" as well?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:18, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Prometheus

2012-05-22T04:39:30Z

Krel:

Talk:Prometheus

2012-05-19T02:17:30Z

Krel:

(Timecop) - Timecop Beretta

2012-03-13T02:49:46Z

Krel: /* Television */

[[Image:Genaigun.jpg|thumb|300px|right|The "Timecop Beretta". Most likely this is a resin "stunt" prop used for ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', due to the rounded trigger guard as opposed to the ones used in the film.]]
[[Image:Taurus pt99.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Taurus PT99AF]]

The '''"Timecop Beretta"''' is the futuristic handgun first used in the 1994 film ''[[Timecop]]'' as the sidearm carried by officers of the Time Enforcement Commission in the year 2004. The prop was composed of an custom shroud built around a [[Taurus PT99|Taurus PT99AF]]. This handgun was then frequently seen in television series filmed in Canada.

'''The ''Timecop Beretta'' has been used in the following media:'''

==Film==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="220"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Date'''
|-
|''[[Timecop]]'' || [[Jean-Claude Van Damme]] || Max Walker || . || 1994
|-
|''[[Timecop]]'' || [[Ron Silver]] || Aaron McComb|| . || 1994
|-
|''[[Timecop]]'' || [[Gloria Reuben]] || Sarah Fielding || . || 1994
|-
|}

==Television==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note/Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'' || . || || . || .
|-
| ''[[Stargate SG-1 - Season 8]]'' || . || || . || .
|-
| ''[[Viper (TV Series)]]'' || . || || . || .
|-
| ''[[Sliders]]'' || . || || . || .
|-
| ''[[Nick Fury: Agent of Sheild]]'' || David Hasselhoff || Nick Fury || slightly altered at the laser site || 1998
|}

 

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Fictional Firearm]]

Talk:Man from U.N.C.L.E., The

2012-01-08T02:57:53Z

Krel:

I have seen every episodeof MFU except The Girls of Nazarone Affair and I don't remember one with the Gyrojet. Which was it?

Mention should be made of the Uncle pistols made from Mauser 1914s used before the P38s.

A few third and fourth season episodes, including The Galatea Affair and The Summit Five Affair, show Thrush agents using Hecker & Koch HK41A2s. Another episode shows Uncle agents with HK41A3s. In a GFU episode, Mark Slate is seen using an HK41A2 and cocking it after each shot. I hope one day to get the DVD set and sort all of these appearances out.

In The Minus X Affair an oddly-uniformed US soldier carries a Beretta BM-59 or BM-62. It appears again carried by an Uncle guard in The Survival School Affair.

http://www.theunclegun.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK41

Roscoe Snyder

The Gyrojet wasn't used in the show. It was used in the MFU novel, "The Monster Wheel Affair" by David McDaniel. U.N.C.L.E. also used a magnetically propelled submarine.

The Mauser is reported to be the M34 model, which never worked, one of the reasons it was changed.

In the fourth season, the M50 Madsen smg started appearing in the show. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 20:57, 7 January 2012 (CST)

Talk:Terra Nova (TV Series)

2011-12-10T06:24:52Z

Krel:

Just a heads up for whoever adds screenshots, I saw a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LmoVbzi2Fk promo piece] with the armourer about the weapons training for the show, and I think the rifles are built on Colt Model 733s, at least that was what they were being trained on. Assuming that these were the show weapons without the shell. They were also using what appeared to be Beretta 92 pistols of some sort fitted with rails and red dot sights. They were also being trained on Glocks. No idea if these weapons were actually the prop weapons that were used as a basis for the guns or what, but is worth a look. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 08:07, 27 September 2011 (CDT)

Just watched the pilot, and was it just me or were there a few goofs with the weapons? First off, Jim Shannon originally has a customised Taurus PT92 fitted with rails and sights, but when he gets to the other side it is clearly not the same weapon, and has turned into the same pistol that everyone else carries (I prop I think). Then when the kids are trapped in the Rover they can all be seen with that ergonomic monstrosity of a rifle/PDW that has the magazine poking out the top of the butt (I think this is a prop too, as I think there were no on screen muzzle flashes when they were being fired). When they leave the vehicle though the only weapons they had were a totally different rifle that made from a Colt Model 733 type weapon. I can understand only using weapons that are built on actual guns for firing scenes, but if they are a completely different design to the prop (magazine at the front on the bottom as opposed to at the back on top) I am going to start getting annoyed with it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 13:23, 27 September 2011 (CDT)

They are discussing this show on the RPF, and they have identified the pistols, and rifles as modified Nerf guns. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 21:34, 27 September 2011 (CDT)

:Are you serious (and if so, are ''they'' serious)? The pistol that is handled by Jim in the beginning is definitely a modified Taurus PT92 with Pachmayr grips (you can clearly see the slide markings), and the assault rifles used by the 6ers (and later the kids) are modified ARs - you can see the AR magazines and blank shell casings being ejected. Also, an armorer's name is listed in the credits - I highly doubt that they would pay an armorer just to handle Nerf Guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:01, 27 September 2011 (CDT)
::The time you see the Taurus at the beginning is the only time you see it, all other times the pistols are the same prop gun that I don't think is built on anything. As for the rifles in the series, 4 different ones have shown up so far. Firstly you have a SMG type weapon that has the magazine mounted on top with what looks like an extendible stock coming out the back of the weapon. You hav another very similar weapon but rather than have a strut coming out the back of the weapon for the butt, the butt plate is mounted on the back of the receiver, and it has a longer barrel. Then you have the tranquilliser guns that have a side mounted stick magazine and a rather than a round barrel have a horizontal slot. Lastly you have the CAR-15 built weapons with the magazine coming out the bottom. With the exception of the Tauarus and the CAR-15 rifle, I don't think any of these guns are real firearms. That being said I have seen promotional pictures where the top loading magazine of the first two rifles was removed, so it is possible they are real guns, but I doubt it (Nerf wouldn't be out of the question). Will post some pics later. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:07, 28 September 2011 (CDT)
:::Just did some looking into it and the pistols are modified Nerf Nite Finders: its the grip that really gives it away. The two prop rifles are supposedly made from the Recon for the short barrelled, and the Longshot for the longer barrelled. Not so sure about these last two but the pistols are definitely Nerfs, with not even that much modification. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:59, 28 September 2011 (CDT)

Someone that works on the show chimed in on the RPF. There were two rifles made for the show from modified Nerf Guns. Molds were taken, and fiberglass copies were made. Some of the copies were modified to accept live fire weapons. The Tranq gun used some Nerf parts, but is mostly scratch built. The unaltered Nerf guns were used by the prop department to add more guns to background actors, they were never intended to be see close-up. This person thinks that Nerf guns were used because it is very difficult, even in the movie industry, to get replica weapons, like airsoft guns in Australia. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 00:24, 10 December 2011 (CST)

I'd put these on the main page, people are only going to try to add them as guessed real weapons if they're not there. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:42, 28 September 2011 (CDT)

== Nerf Weapons ==

===Pistol===
[[File:Nite Finder EX-3 101 (1).jpeg|thumb|500px|none|Nerf N-Strike Nite Finder]]
[[File:TN promo (8).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (4).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (3).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

===Light Rifle===
[[File:Nerf Recon complete.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Nerf Recon CS-6]]
[[File:Nerf recon parts.JPG|thumb|500px|none|Component parts of the Nerf Recon CS-6. Only the core component is used, and can be recognised by its pistol grip and the markings on the side of the "receiver".]]
[[File:TN promo (1).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
If you look at the rifle's fore-stock, you will see that it is made from the same piece as the should stock pad. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 20:29, 28 September 2011 (CDT)
[[File:TN promo (7).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (10).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (5).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

===Heavy Rifle===
[[File:TN promo (10).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (6).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

===Tranq Gun===
[[File:TN promo (9).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (2).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

Talk:Person of Interest

2011-10-08T23:31:55Z

Krel: /* Ending Continuity Error - Pilot */

==I'm in love with the show and I need help==
I came across this show and I like what I see already. But as always I need help to get this page up to its full potential. So anyone is free to edit, change, add screenshots to make this page better.

== Ending Continuity Error - Pilot ==

At the end of the pilot episode Jim Caviezel tells the cop in the car that he had to shoot the cop in the trunk with his gun. During the shoot out he uses a Glock but when he tells the guy in the car that he used his gun he hands him the S&W. --[[User:Ram229|Ram229]] 19:00, 29 September 2011 (CDT)

It may not be an error, he could have just been lying to the Cop. It fits his other actions. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 18:31, 8 October 2011 (CDT)

== P226 used by Lattimer ==

I don't think that is a P226, no takedown lever or decocker, no hammer. --[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 18:07, 8 October 2011 (CDT)

Talk:Terra Nova (TV Series)

2011-09-29T01:29:19Z

Krel: /* Light Rifle */

Just a heads up for whoever adds screenshots, I saw a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LmoVbzi2Fk promo piece] with the armourer about the weapons training for the show, and I think the rifles are built on Colt Model 733s, at least that was what they were being trained on. Assuming that these were the show weapons without the shell. They were also using what appeared to be Beretta 92 pistols of some sort fitted with rails and red dot sights. They were also being trained on Glocks. No idea if these weapons were actually the prop weapons that were used as a basis for the guns or what, but is worth a look. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 08:07, 27 September 2011 (CDT)

Just watched the pilot, and was it just me or were there a few goofs with the weapons? First off, Jim Shannon originally has a customised Taurus PT92 fitted with rails and sights, but when he gets to the other side it is clearly not the same weapon, and has turned into the same pistol that everyone else carries (I prop I think). Then when the kids are trapped in the Rover they can all be seen with that ergonomic monstrosity of a rifle/PDW that has the magazine poking out the top of the butt (I think this is a prop too, as I think there were no on screen muzzle flashes when they were being fired). When they leave the vehicle though the only weapons they had were a totally different rifle that made from a Colt Model 733 type weapon. I can understand only using weapons that are built on actual guns for firing scenes, but if they are a completely different design to the prop (magazine at the front on the bottom as opposed to at the back on top) I am going to start getting annoyed with it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 13:23, 27 September 2011 (CDT)

They are discussing this show on the RPF, and they have identified the pistols, and rifles as modified Nerf guns. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 21:34, 27 September 2011 (CDT)

:Are you serious (and if so, are ''they'' serious)? The pistol that is handled by Jim in the beginning is definitely a modified Taurus PT92 with Pachmayr grips (you can clearly see the slide markings), and the assault rifles used by the 6ers (and later the kids) are modified ARs - you can see the AR magazines and blank shell casings being ejected. Also, an armorer's name is listed in the credits - I highly doubt that they would pay an armorer just to handle Nerf Guns. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:01, 27 September 2011 (CDT)
::The time you see the Taurus at the beginning is the only time you see it, all other times the pistols are the same prop gun that I don't think is built on anything. As for the rifles in the series, 4 different ones have shown up so far. Firstly you have a SMG type weapon that has the magazine mounted on top with what looks like an extendible stock coming out the back of the weapon. You hav another very similar weapon but rather than have a strut coming out the back of the weapon for the butt, the butt plate is mounted on the back of the receiver, and it has a longer barrel. Then you have the tranquilliser guns that have a side mounted stick magazine and a rather than a round barrel have a horizontal slot. Lastly you have the CAR-15 built weapons with the magazine coming out the bottom. With the exception of the Tauarus and the CAR-15 rifle, I don't think any of these guns are real firearms. That being said I have seen promotional pictures where the top loading magazine of the first two rifles was removed, so it is possible they are real guns, but I doubt it (Nerf wouldn't be out of the question). Will post some pics later. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:07, 28 September 2011 (CDT)
:::Just did some looking into it and the pistols are modified Nerf Nite Finders: its the grip that really gives it away. The two prop rifles are supposedly made from the Recon for the short barrelled, and the Longshot for the longer barrelled. Not so sure about these last two but the pistols are definitely Nerfs, with not even that much modification. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:59, 28 September 2011 (CDT)

I'd put these on the main page, people are only going to try to add them as guessed real weapons if they're not there. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:42, 28 September 2011 (CDT)

== Nerf Weapons ==

===Pistol===
[[File:Nite Finder EX-3 101 (1).jpeg|thumb|500px|none|Nerf N-Strike Nite Finder]]
[[File:TN promo (8).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (4).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (3).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

===Light Rifle===
[[File:Nerf Recon complete.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Nerf Recon CS-6]]
[[File:Nerf recon parts.JPG|thumb|500px|none|Component parts of the Nerf Recon CS-6. Only the core component is used, and can be recognised by its pistol grip and the markings on the side of the "receiver".]]
[[File:TN promo (1).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
If you look at the rifle's fore-stock, you will see that it is made from the same piece as the should stock pad. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 20:29, 28 September 2011 (CDT)
[[File:TN promo (7).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (10).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (5).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

===Heavy Rifle===
[[File:TN promo (10).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (6).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

===Tranq Gun===
[[File:TN promo (9).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:TN promo (2).jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

Talk:Terra Nova (TV Series)

2011-09-28T02:34:21Z

Krel:

Talk:The Twilight Zone (1959)

2011-09-21T03:55:26Z

Krel: /* Need Weapons ID */

I have seen as I recall a Sten in one where they think thought they landed on a alien world but ended up back on earth.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 22:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== Ithaca ==
It was actually a Double barreled shotgun used in "Monsters on Maple Street" --[[User:Lord Xeras|Lord Xeras]]

== Need Weapons ID ==

Need help with these weapons. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:22, 13 August 2011 (CDT)

[[File:TZ 030.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[File:TZ 032.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

The first one is a Franken gun. They discussed this on the RPF board a couple of years back. It is believed that CB's rifle was made from a 30s, or 40s air pistol with added firearms parts.

I think that EM's rifle was made from a studio replica of an M1 Garand with a cut-down stock, and added parts. When they showed the muzzle in the episode it was solid, but the rifle obviously had weight, so I don't think it was made from a toy.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] 22:55, 20 September 2011 (CDT)

SIG P210

2011-06-16T04:19:37Z

Krel: /* Television */

'''Specifications'''

'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 9x19mm Parabellum

'''Capacity:''' 8 round magazine

'''Fire Modes:''' Semiautomatic (Single Action)

'''The SIG P210 can be seen in the following films and television series used by the following actors:'''
[[Image:Sig P210.jpg|thumb|right|400px|SIG P210 9x19mm]]

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[On Her Majesty's Secret Service]] || || Hitman || || 1969
|-
| [[On Her Majesty's Secret Service]] || || Henchmen || || 1969
|-
| [[Navy SEALs]] || || Islamic Terrorist || || 1990
|-
| [[Once Upon A Time In America]] || [[Ray Dittrich]] || "Trigger" || With silencer || 1984
|-
| [[Once Upon A Time In America]] || [[James Hayden]] || Patrick "Patsy" Goldberg || || 1984
|-
| [[Quantum of Solace]] || [[Daniel Craig]] || James Bond || 50th anniversary commemorative edition || 2008
|-
| [[Get Carter]] || [[Michael Caine]] || Jack Carter || || 1971
|-
| [[Top Secret!]] || [[Val Kilmer]] || Nick Rivers || || 1984
|-
| [[Tomorrow Never Dies]] || || Terrorist || || 1997
|-
| [[The Wild Geese]] || || Shawn Fynn || || 1978
|}

===Television===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="225"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="75"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Professionals (TV Series), The|The Professionals]] / "Fugitive" || [[Michael Byrne]] || Werner || || 1977 - 1983
|-
| [[Professionals (TV Series), The|The Professionals]] / "Fugitive" || || Terrorists || || 1977 - 1983
|-
| [[Professionals (TV Series), The|The Professionals]] / "Where the Jungle Ends" || [[David Suchet]] || Krivas || || 1977 - 1983
|-
| [[Professionals (TV Series), The|The Professionals]] / "Acorn Syndrome" || || Kidnappers || || 1977 - 1983
|-
| [[UFO]] / "Kill Straker" ||Ed Bishop || Ed Straker ||One of the few actual firearms used in the show || 1970
|}

===Anime===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Patlabor: The Movie 2]] || Cpt. Shinobu Nagumo || || 1993
|-
|}

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category: Pistol]]

Talk:Walther PP Pistol Series

2011-05-26T01:58:20Z

Krel: /* Other */

==Additional Variants==
[[Image:AustinPowersPPKscreenused1.JPG‎|thumb|400px|none|One of the actual custom Walther PPK/S pistols used by [[Mike Myers]] on all three of the ''Austin Powers'' movies. - .380 ACP]]
[[Image:AustinPowersPPKscreenused2.JPG‎|thumb|400px|none|Another one of the actual custom Walther PPK/S pistols used by [[Mike Myers]] in the ''Austin Powers'' movies. - .380 ACP]]
[[Image:Walther-PPK.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Walther PPK - .380 ACP]]
[[Image:Opb-layout-licence-to-kill-ppk-pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|James Bond's Hero Walther PPK - .32ACP. Note the eagle engraved on the slide, the smaller rear sight, the lanyard ring, and the irregular front, indicating that this particular pistol was manufactured in Nazi Germany.]]
[[Image:Bruni8mmPolicePPK.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A Bruni/BBM "ME-8 Police" 8mm blank firing gun (used to impersonate a [[Walther PPK]])]]
[[Image:IMFDB P00263 Sopranos Christopher Walther PPK S.jpg|thumb|none|350px|'''World IMFDB Exclusive:''' Screen used Walther PPK/S - .380 ACP pistol. This blank firing weapon is verified as screen used by actor [[Michael Imperioli]] in '''[[The Sopranos]]'''. More detailed images and purchasing information on this item can be found at [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/ The Golden Closet]; see [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=6ef04a13fbe759cbdcbdc6bc4c4b809f&Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TGC&Product_Code=P00263&Category_Code= here].]]
[[Image:Walther ppk rzm.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Gold plated Walther PPK with ivory grips]]

- Surprisingly, this image, used throughout the site, isn't listed on the PP series Main page, or here in the Talk page. So, I'll post it here. Being that it was uploaded by MPM, and given it's appearance, I figure it's a screen-used weapon, but I don't really know - perhaps someone can enlighten me. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

I looked up the Walther PPK on the Long Mountain Outfitters and it turns out that the one pictured above is the screen gun used by Sean Connery AND Roger Moore as James Bond. Here's the picture of it they had on the site: [[User:jackbel]]

[[Image:PPK 1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==Other==

How common are the .22 and .25 versions of this weapon? I ask because it seems the only versions one ever sees are the .32 and .380 models.

Is the Walter PPK a good gun or just iconic?

I'm rather curious about the answer to the question the anonymous user put above. Would you guys still consider a PPK a useful concealed personal defense weapon? seems like today a spy would want something like a Walther PPS or a SIG P239 which are pretty small and use 9mm rounds instead -- [[User:Mdw|Mdw]] 14:53, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

In the novels, the PPK was never intended to be the main weapon. It was intended to be a small light pistol that Agents could easily conceal, and carry around in case of trouble. If they were knowingly heading into a hazardous situation, then they would carry a larger weapon in a heavier caliber. Even though the PPK was available in .380 acp back then, they still preferred the .32 acp. Bullet placement was considered more important, and the .32 is easier to fire in a small pistol. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 20:58, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

User talk:PistolJunkie

2011-05-06T01:36:45Z

Krel:

==Set your screenshots to "Auto"==
Your screenshots for [[Highlander]] looked squished (everybody looks thinner), which means your video player's "aspect ratio" is set wrong. Make sure it's set to "Auto" or "16:9" if widescreen. Also, I guess you used your talk page as a template for the Highlander page, but you should reserve the space for discussion. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 09:50, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
==Outlander==
It was your sugesstion about holstered pistol being [[Heckler & Koch VP70]]? Interesting idea, but trigger and many other details not quite the same... Maybe it's just a fictional pistol which combines elements of both this gun and [[Jericho 941]]? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 00:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
==American Gangster==
I wouldn't consider one screencap that big of a deal. I consider a page to be incomplete when more than half of the weapons used don't have screencaps. But I'll try to get a screeencap added. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

==RahXephon==
Please note that the rules state that fullscreen (4:3 Aspect Ratio) screencaps are set at 500px not 600 px. Thanks! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:20, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

==In A Moonlit Night==
Done. Also noticed sad mistake second 'di' was misspeled as 'de'. Thanks. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 13:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

==Deacons For Defense==
Thank you for your help. This is my first page build, and I obviously needed some help. I appreciate it.--[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 17:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

== nuking Joshua and Jackal page ==

I am really considering getting rid of those 2 pages [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

== Anime TV shows ==

Too much stuff already. Don't think we really need it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah just drop it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

== A few days to a week ==

Try at most a week. Sometimes people forget. It took me a full 2 days to get my latest SWAT Firefight page done [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

== RE Degeneration ==

Sorry, I've been too busy to post the images you capped of the Glock 17s. When you get editing control back, please take time to do it yourself. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 09:34, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

== The Missing (2003) ==
thanks for fixing it. I kept trying to work on it and none of my changes would take or at least half of the time they wouldn't take. I finally quit in disgust and walked away. I knew eventually somebody would come along and correct it. I really don't like this new server/software. I know it had to be done, but boy oh boy. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:33, 14 March 2011 (MSK)
:THat does seem to work. thanks.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 08:31, 17 March 2011 (CDT)

== Suomi ==

Ok. Got it. I just wondered why the Suomi was put under the PPSh-41 category, since as you know its two different weapons from two different countries.

==Re: 2nd Gig Page==

I admit I overlooked the existing bit about the Jigabachi on that page and for that I apologize, though I still believe that weapon is not an M134, the main reason being that it is too large; a full-size M134 is about 3 feet long at most (including barrels and attached machinery), whereas that weapon appears to have a barrel length alone of approximately 6 feet, and a much larger muzzle diameter than 7.62mm. If you can provide some info such as art book diagrams or the like to support it being a Minigun, that's fine, but in the meantime I'm going to say that it's intended to be a Vulcan. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:14, 26 March 2011 (CDT)

:Again, I apologize for stepping on your toes, it was a simple oversight. I edited it the right way this time (and see that you tidied it up a bit as well). [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:05, 27 March 2011 (CDT)

::Sorry about that, got a bit impulsive there. It's in the episode where Batou's undercover investigating the former Olympic boxer, just before the episode where Aramaki is taken hostage in London. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 03:29, 3 April 2011 (CDT)

== The Sum of All Fears game ==

Hi! Thanks for moving the page to "Sum of All Fears, The (VG)" a couple of days ago. It was my 1st page to start with "The" so I completely forgot how should I name it correctly... :D Thank You, again. [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 06:54, 3 April 2011 (CDT)

==Alarm Fur Cobra==
Actually that anonymous user is correct. That is NOT a standard AK-47. Despite having an old school receiver, it definitely has an AK-74 Style gas block and either a 5.45 or a 5.56 magazine, NOT a 7.62x39mm mag. Also did you notice how the sling goes through a hole in the buttstock ala K98 Mauser style? VERY German thing to do. This is some sort of German Franken gun for sure :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:55, 1 May 2011 (CDT)

Signing Posts

"Please leave comments on discussion pages (that's what they're there for) instead of putting them in the actual page (that just looks tacky),"

Sorry didn't mean to offend. If you are talking about what I think you are, well I thought it was something interesting little detail they missed.

"and don't be lazy, make corrections when you see them instead of telling others to do it for you."

I wasn't aware that I was telling someone to do something for me, I thought I was just answering a question. Id you are saying that I
should have put a photo of a Vektor there, well I have absolutely no idea how to do such a thing. Sorry.

"And sign your posts using the signature button (second from last button above the edit window) so that someone doesn't have to go into the edit history to find your user page.--PistolJunkie 17:05, 5 May 2011 (CDT)"

Thanks, I wondered how people did that. Somehow I missed it, I'm still learning how to do these things. I tend to be a bit of a Luddite. --[[User:Krel|Krel]] 20:36, 5 May 2011 (CDT)

The Adventures of Pluto Nash

2011-05-05T21:46:44Z

Krel: /* 43K Magnum */

The Adventures of Pluto Nash

2011-05-05T21:29:09Z

Krel: /* Unidentified Pistol */

Talk:Star Trek: Enterprise

2011-05-05T21:12:06Z

Krel: /* Unidentified Pump Action shotgun */

== Unidentified Pump Action shotgun ==

[[File:ENT - S1EP14Rem.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Season 1, "Shadows of P'Jem".]]

And can anyone tell what this is

Could it be a modified airsoft? I believe that the Farmer's rifle in the pilot episode was a modified airsoft shotgun. David.

[[File:ENT - S1EP14Odd.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Season 1, "Shadows of P'Jem".]]

I swear I saw this particular configuration before. But I don't remember if it was on a Star Trek series or on a movie. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 06:08, 5 May 2011 (CDT)

: Nevermind. I was thinking of the modified AK from [[Island, The|The Island]]. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 07:32, 5 May 2011 (CDT)

I think it is a Muzzelite stock, it has the bulge at the front of the carrying handle. David.

Talk:Star Trek: Enterprise

2011-05-05T21:09:44Z

Krel: /* Unidentified Pump Action shotgun */

== Unidentified Pump Action shotgun ==

[[File:ENT - S1EP14Rem.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Season 1, "Shadows of P'Jem".]]

And can anyone tell what this is

Could it be a modified airsoft? The Farmer's rifle in the pilot episode was a modified airsoft shotgun. David.

[[File:ENT - S1EP14Odd.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Season 1, "Shadows of P'Jem".]]

I swear I saw this particular configuration before. But I don't remember if it was on a Star Trek series or on a movie. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 06:08, 5 May 2011 (CDT)

: Nevermind. I was thinking of the modified AK from [[Island, The|The Island]]. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] [[File:Milkovich Signature.jpg|20px|frameless|link=User:Milkovich|]] 07:32, 5 May 2011 (CDT)

I think it is a Muzzelite stock, it has the bulge at the front of the carrying handle. David.

Talk:Aliens

2011-04-26T02:57:48Z

Krel:

==acid blood==
''Trivia Note: In the Aliens series of movies this weapon always seems to be a hazard. i.e. shooting an alien with this weapon would cause a character to get splattered with acidic blood. This event happens a lot in '''AVP: Requiem'''. However, in reality, a direct shotgun blast would NOT splatter any blood "towards the shooter" or "to the sides". The force alone would direct all brain and blood splatter AWAY from the shooter. All one has to do is look a real life crime scene photos of shotgun blasts to the head. All particles or viscera are blown away from the barrel, none are to the front and very little if any is to the sides.''

''Additional Trivia Note: As the previous trivia note says, little 'splashback' if any would be expected. That said, the Aliens are well known to be extremely tough beasties, so who's to say parts of the body were not damaged very much by the shotgun blasts? This could have resulted in the 'splashback' as softer tissue and blood rebounds off harder bone / chitinous tissue...''

''Remember reading in a book or online when I was in school that the aliens had extremely high "blood pressure" resulting in them pretty much exploding when shot and in effect turning them into a walking anti personnel mine.''

::Even if they are under pressure, the blast would blow the blood AWAY. I shot a pressurized Paint balloon with a shotgun for a demo once. Sure it flew everywhere EXCEPT where I was because the blast of the shotgun forced the particulate matter in the other direction. I am very wary of any theory that has the alien blood at such high pressure that it can overcome the kinetic energy of a shotgun blast. Wouldn't happen.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I really love it when folks say "wouldn't happen" when referencing a science fiction movie with big fake ships, fake alien creatures, and giant fantasy guns that weigh about 45 pounds each. It's fantasy guys. Come on. They tear a synthetic person in half, would his blood splatter the way it did when his body flew in 2 different directions? Aliens are not real. How do we know they fake fantasy high pressure acidic blood isn't magnetic for 5 seconds once it is exposed to oxygen? I mean, it's acid right? Would that happen?

In accordance with the statement above mine, the aliens blood is in fact, highly pressurized. Coincidence? I think not. I'd think of it as more of a natural deterrent, or biological "fail-safe" due to the fact that if a Xenomorph is attacked and killed, or even injured, the aggressor will pay the price.

Physicist's note: According to the character Bishop, the creatures' blood completely oxidizes as of their death. Presumably, this is due to direct exposure to external atmospheric conditions, but that's just a moot guess at a fictitious alien. In any case, oxidation, along with its reduction counterpart, is the neutralization of an acidic compound of a which results in the release of chemical energy (also known as redoxing).

Familiar examples of this in the real world include the process in cellular respiration that oxidizes glucose to carbon dioxide and the corresponding reduction of oxygen to water. An example of a counterpart to the process is its inverse in photosynthesis. In agriculture, ammonia is oxidized into nitric acid--which, incidentally, is also useful as an explosive, but I'll get to that. It's the fundamental reaction behind an electrochemical battery. In some cases, it releases an enormous amount of heat.

Suppose all of the glucose and oxygen in your blood were to suddenly redox. You would have a lot of energy on hand, and I suspect it would really hurt. The impression that our android hero gives me is that these aliens are walking fertilizer bombs, which is hardly the worst thing I can think of (we've got the equivalent and worse in many insect species on Earth), but still an excellent defense mechanism. I don't think it's the shockwave of the shotgun that is causing the backsplash of acid, it would be the onset of the oxidation of the acid itself.
==Stock Pulse rifle and Flamethrower pics==
[[Image: M41a01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M41A Existing]]
[[Image:ALIENS-M4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M41A new]]
[[Image:M240Flamethrower.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|M240 Flamethrower existing]]
[[Image:ALIENS-M240.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M240 Flamethrower new]]

Keep existing or change to new ones?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:26, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
-I'd say keep the existing M41A, if only because I uploaded it, and I like seeing the receivers.-protoAuthor 01:56, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Those are two of my favourite fictional weapons.

:I really don't like the picture of the M41A that we have on the page. It is an airsoft replica (I saw it on an airsoft site once), not one of the real guns. Whereas this picture...

:[[Image:Pulse Rifle-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M41A Pulse Rifle - 10mm caseless/30mm grenades.]]

:...is one of the actual screen-used M41As from the series (even though it's still painted black from being used in ''[[Alien³]]'', unlike the ones in ''[[Aliens]]'' which were still green). I realize it's low-res, but the pic was taken by Dan Shea in 2002 (when most people were still on 56K and everything loaded slower). As best I know, this is the only one of the pulse rifles that Bapty & Co. has kept in its original configuration. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::The second pic the one labeled M41A new I took it from the DVD. Same thing with the M240 Flamethrower.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:16, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:::Ah, OK. Then we should at least use that one, I think. Screen-used gun pictures are always preferable to stuff like airsoft replica pictures. Though I wonder if we should take the LMO picture and use it on the ''[[Alien³]]'' page? (since it's still in the same color scheme seen in that movie) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:18, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Sounds good to me. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:42, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

::All of the pictures in this section are screen used. I took mine from the DVD as well.-protoAuthor 02:22, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Hicks or Hudson ==

In the description of the Ithaca Stakeout, it says that it was Hicks that shot the alien in the mouth as they were trying to close the door of the APC. But wasn't it Hudson who did that? Wouldn't it make more sense considering it was Hudson that got burned? I thought Hicks was busy trying to close the door. Or did I "misremember" it? Can someone confirm?
:Michael Biehn is Hicks. Hudson got splashed, even though he didn't fire the gun.-protoAuthor 22:12, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::Hicks initially tried to close the door himself, then Vasquez and Hudson go to help. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:19, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:ALIENS-00001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hicks after shooting the alien, Hudson was on the left and Vasquez was on the right (whose hand you see in the screenshot on the main page.) Hicks does gets sprayed later when one tries to get in the elevator.]]

== Advertising? ==

Can we please remove the tasteless advertising from the Pulse Rifle? This is a DB, not a forum, if anything it belongs in the discussion tab. Scratch that I AM removing it, it will be in the discussion tab. --Furious Oyster

== Lage Mfg ==

Lage Manufacturing in currently working on a real live fire replica called the Max-41A. The MAX-41A is a combination submachinegun in 9mm and short barreled 12 gauge shotgun designed to resemble the M-41A Pulse Rifle from the movie.

Submachinegun component is a NFA registered SWD M-11/9 with an Anthony Smith style Suomi upper receiver. Magazine used is a Suomi "Coffin" magazine that holds 50 rounds of 9mm. Shotgun component is a NFA registered Remington 870 short barreled shotgun and holds two rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber.

BATFE letter was obtained confirming this is a legal configuration, prior to manufacturing.

The MAX-41A is a prototype that is currently being tested. My main concern is durability when fired with 12 guage buckshot and slugs. So far, most testing has been with light birdshot loads. The subgun component has run flawlessly.

The bullet counter has a minor problem when firing in full auto, only counts half of the rounds fired. When firing singles, there is no problem. Should be fixable.

The test phase is expected to take about a year.

The Bullet counters do add some tension in the combat scenes

update 20/2/11 (2/20/11 US) http://www.max-11.com/TopSecret.html

Link to photo's and video in use. Not going into production so will remain a concept gun. If many law enforcement agencies around the world hadn't up-gunned to 5.56mm, it could have had a market as a dual weapon, 9mm lethal load and 12 gauge less lethal such as baton round, gas round or TASER round.

==Pulse Rifle Sound==

Mainly a trivial question, but does anybody know how they obtained the sounds for the pulse rifles? I've always wanted to know...

== Original Pulse Rile ==

The original plan was to use an MP5 for the Pulse Rifle, but James Cameron didn't like the muzzle flash. The Thompson gave the look he wanted. I haven't seen the movie in years, but one of the Marines is suppose to be wearing a t shirt with the MP5 Pulse Rifle on it. The dvd extras has a drawing of the MP5 Pulse Rifle. David.

Detonics Pocket 9

2011-04-20T00:30:17Z

Krel: /* Television */

[[Image:Detonics-pocket-9.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Detonics Pocket 9 - 9mm]]

The Detonics Pocket 9 pistol has been seen in the following Films and television series:

==Film==

* [[Assault of the Killer Bimbos]]

* [[New Jack City]]

==Television==

* [[Miami Vice]]

* [[Simon & Simon]]

* [[Magnum, P.I.]]

* [[Stingray]] (1985-87)

* [[A-Team, The|The A-Team]]

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Talk:Thank You For Smoking

2011-04-20T00:06:09Z

Krel:

I believe the movie on the t.v. is Sands of Iwo Jima with John Wayne. Not really important info but what the hell. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 05:07, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Could the unknown pistol be a Colt Mustang .380? David.

Dan Duryea

2011-04-17T03:20:07Z

Krel:

[[Image:Sahara43 3.jpg|thumb|right|400px| '''Dan Duryea''' playing Jimmy Doyle in ''[[Sahara]]]]
'''Dan Duryea can be seen using the following firearms in the following films:'''

* [[Browning M1919|Browning 1919A4]] as Jimmy Doyle in ''[[Sahara]]'' (1943)
* [[Luger Carbine]] as Duke Pastrami in ''[[Ball of Fire]] (1941)

[[Category:Actor]]
[[Category:Actor Male]]

Talk:Luger P08

2011-04-17T03:13:14Z

Krel: /* Other Luger Variants */

==Other Luger Variants==
[[Image:ErmaLuger.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Erma "Mini" Luger - 7.65]]
[[Image:Luger carbine.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A rare Luger carbine 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Luger_36470.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Borchardt-Luger artilelry prototype in 7.63 Mauser caliber]]

Do you want to take down the picture of the black luger since we know have MPM2008's images on the page?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

:Sure. That should be policy. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I can think of another movie with the Luger, that is The Land That Time Forgot. Also the Bergman MP-18 is in that movie (anachronistic because the movie is set in 1916 while the U.S. is still "neutral") as well as Mauser 98 rifles and a Webley revolver.

Has a Luger Carbine ever been used in a movie? David.

Found my own answer. Dan Duryea used one in "Balls of Fire"(1941). David.

== .45 Luger Pistol ==

I have found a picture of the famous Luger Pistol chambered in .45 ACP from 1908. It is the only known .45 Luger to still exist today. The other pistol, Serial No. 1, was used in the 1908 pistol test in which it was tested along-side the Colt M1905 Pistol. The original was thrown away after the tests and the other remaning Lugers were either lost or destroyed. This .45 Luger Pistol remains the last of its kind to this day. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]]
:Actually, I remember hearing about a gunsmith who was handcrafting a limited number (around one hundred) of .45 Lugers according to original specifications. However, the high price tags ($10,000-$100,000) meant that the Lugers were more pieces of jewelry than weapons. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::That may be very expensive just for a reproduction, but compare that to the original .45 Luger, which was recently valued at more than $1 Million. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]]
[[Image:Luger Pistol .45 ACP Serial No. 2.jpg|thumb|right|460px|The Famous Luger P08 Pistol, Serial No. 2, chambered in .45 ACP.]]

They also made a .45 ACP carbine, link: http://www.weaponscache.com/forum/pistols/2171-worlds-most-expensive-handgun-45-acp-luger-carbine.html

David.

:::Actually, the famous "million dollar Luger" sold for that in 1989, in a private sale to an Indonesian businessman (who, incidentally, was not a gun collector and probably overpaid). It went up in auction back in March of this year and sold for $494,500. Combination of the economic climate in the 80s (remember "Greed is good"?) compared to today's recession, and the fact that the provenance of that particular gun is actually somewhat shaky. It's definately a real 1907 .45 Luger but there's real doubt as to whether it's actually one of the US army test guns. DWM made a few .45 prototypes for the commercial market as well before deciding there wasn't a market for it. The idea that there's only one survivor isn't accurate, serial # 2,4,7 are known, as well as the carbine, the authenticity of which is questionned. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

== Gold-plated Lugers in movies ==

I seem to remember a scene from an old science-fiction/monster movie, maybe from the fifties or sixties, name unknown, in which a gold-plated Luger with the snail-drum mounted (also gold-plated) figured prominently towards the end. I had thought it was "The Day The World Ended" - I'm pretty sure it was that sort of "post-apocalyptic" plot-line, with mutated humans, etc. - but that was in b&w, while the flick I'm thinking of had to be in color, or the "golden" Luger would never have been noticeable.

Unfortunately, I saw it so long ago (early seventies) that I can't recall anything else about it and have never seen it since.

Does anyone recognize that extremely-vague description?

In the 60s, "The Day the World Ended" was remade for television as "In the Year 2889" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060536/ . I haven't seen it since the 60s, but I do remember the hero using a Luger with a drum magazine at the end. Don't remember if it was gold, or not, we had a b&w tv set at the time. David.
::Well if you all checked IMDB, then you would know that the movie was indeed COLOR, not black & white. :) So it is possible, though I myself have never seen that movie. Even on MST3K ;D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

If you had read what I wrote, then you would see that I did not say that the movie was in black & white. I said that at the time we only owned a black & white tv set. I know that the movie was in color because it was one of a series of Roger Corman movies that American International hired Larry Buchanan to remake for syndication to tv stations. They were having trouble syndicating the originals because they were in Black & White. David.

Walther PP Pistol Series

2011-04-03T06:00:45Z

Krel: /* Television */

'''The Walther PP and variants are used by the following actors in the following movies, television series, and video games:'''

==Specifications==

'''Type:''' Semi-Automatic Pistol

'''Caliber:''' .22 LR, .25 ACP, .32 ACP, .380 ACP,

'''Capacity:''' 9/10 (PPK/S), 8 (.32 ACP), 7 (.380 ACP) round magazine (PP) / 7(.32 ACP), 6 (.380 ACP) round magazine (PPK)

'''Fire Modes:''' Semiautomatic

==Walther PP==
[[Image:Walther_PP.jpg‎|thumb|350px|right|War Time Walther PP Pistol. The lesser-known, full-length barreled Walther PP is available in .22LR, 6.35mm auto (.25 ACP), 7.65x17mm (.32 ACP) Auto or 9x17mm (.380 ACP).]]
[[Image:Walther-PP-Post-War.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Post war Walther PP Pistol - 32 acp. Though most of the pistols built immediately after the war were made by ''Manurhin'' of France (under license), the guns are marked ''"Made in West Germany"''.]]
[[Image:NickelPPK.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Walther PP Pistol in nickel finish - 32 acp.]]

=== Film: ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Dr. No]] || [[Sean Connery]] || James Bond || .|| 1962
|-
| [[Dr. No]] || [[Jack Lord]] || Felix Leiter ||. || 1962
|-
| [[Nackt unter Woelfen]] || [[Herbert Koefer]] || SS-Hauptsturmfuehrer Kluttig || .|| 1963
|-
| [[Red Dawn]] || [[Judd Omen]] || The Nicaraguan Captain || impersonating a Makarov || 1984
|-
| [[Death Wish 4]] || [[Charles Bronson]] || Paul Kersey ||. || 1987
|-
| [[Ghost]] || [[Rick Aviles]] || Willie Lopez || .|| 1990
|-
| [[Ghost]] || [[Tony Goldwyn]] || Carl Bruner ||. || 1990
|-
| [[The Godfather Part III]] || [[Richard Bright]] || Al Neri ||. || 1990
|-
| [[Love Kills]] || [[Mario Van Peebles]] || Poe Finklestein ||. || 1998
|-
| [[The Pianist]] || Various actors || Nazi officer || .|| 2002
|-
| [[The Pianist]] || [[Thomas Kretschmann]] || Wilm Hosenfeld || .|| 2002
|-
| [[Downfall aka "Der Untergang"]] || Various actors || Various German officers || .|| 2004
|-
| [[The Bourne Supremacy]] || [[Brian Cox]] || Ward Abbott || .|| 2004
|-
| [[The Bourne Supremacy]] || [[Matt Damon]] || Jason Bourne || .|| 2004
|-
| [[Payback]] || [[Gregg Henry]] || Val Resnick || .|| 2006
|-
| [[Die Welle aka "The Wave"]] || [[Frederick Lau]] || Tim Stoltefuss || .|| 2008
|-
|}

===Television===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Equalizer, The| The Equalizer]] || [[Edward Woodward]] || Robert McCall || .|| 1985-1989
|-
| [[Band of Brothers]]/ "We Stand Alone Together" || [[Maj. Richard Winters]] || Himself || .|| 2001
|-
| [[Dolmen]] || [[Ingrid Chauvin]] || Marie Kermeur ||. || 2005
|-
| [[The Protectors]] || [[Robert Vaughn]] || Harry Rule || .|| 1972-1973
|-
| [[Mannix]] || [[Mike Connors]] || Joe Mannix || First Season || 1967-1975
|}

=== Anime ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Show Title/ Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Kino's Journey: The Beautiful World]] || Used by various minor characters ||. || 2003
|-
|}
 

==Walther PPK==
* The Walther PPK was manufactured in 6.35mm auto (.25 ACP), 7.65x17mm (.32 ACP) Auto or 9x17mm (.380 ACP).

[[Image:WaltherPPK.jpg‎|thumb|350px|right|Walther PPK - 9mm Kurz aka 9x17mm (.380 ACP)]]
[[Image:PPKNazi1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|right|Early Waffenamt marked Walther PPK. Note the differences: orange bakelite grips, lanyard ring, smaller rear sight, grooved top and irregular front - 7.65x17mm Auto (.32 ACP)]]
[[Image:WaltherPPKSuppressed.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Walther PPK .380 fitted with a sound suppressor. (black grips)]]
[[Image:WaltherPPkSilenced.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Walther PPK .380 with a sound suppressor. (Brown factory grips)]]
[[Image:PPK_stainless.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Walther PPK stainless - 9mm Kurz aka 9x17mm (.380 ACP)]]

While the K would commonly stand for ''kurz'', German for "Short", PPK means ''Polizei Pistole Kriminal'', the Criminal Police Pistol, noted by its compact criminal size. The Walther PPK is a shortened version of the Walther PP. Since it was the most common compact pistol of WW2 (for the German forces) it is the most famous as well as being the weapon of choice for fictional British Intelligence (MI-6) officer 007 James Bond.

Note, the K does indeed stand for ''Kriminal'', however, this term needs some fleshing out. It is referred to as ''Kriminal'' not because of any preferred usage of smaller guns by Criminals, but because this is the gun issued to the ''Criminal division'', i.e. the people who investigate crimes, which would be termed 'Detectives Division' in most U.S. police forces. Just like most patrolmen in the USA carried a 4 inch revolver at the time, and the Detectives often carried a snub nose revolver (Colt specifically calling theirs ''the Detective Special'') so to did the investigative branch of the German Police desire to carry a smaller version of the full sized patrolman's duty weapon.

=== Film: ===

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[From Russia With Love]] || [[Sean Connery]] || [[James Bond]] ||. || 1963
|-
| [[From Russia With Love]] || [[Pedro Armendariz]] || Kerim Bey || .|| 1963
|-
| [[From Russia With Love]] || [[Robert Shaw]] || Donald "Red" Grant || .|| 1963
|-
| [[From Russia With Love]] || Various actors || Soviet agents || .|| 1963
|-
| [[Goldfinger]] || [[Sean Connery]] || [[James Bond]] || Brown-grips || 1964
|-
| [[Goldfinger]] || [[Alf Joint]] || Capungo || .|| 1964
|-
| [[Thunderball]] || [[Sean Connery]] || [[James Bond]] || Occasionally seen suppressed || 1965
|-
| [[Thunderball]] || [[Guy Doleman]] || Count Lippe || Occasionally seen suppressed || 1965
|-
| [[Thunderball]] || [[Philip Locke]] || Vargas || suppressed || 1965
|-
| [[You Only Live Twice]] || [[Sean Connery]] || [[James Bond]] ||. || 1967
|-
| [[Where Eagles Dare]] || [[Richard Burton]] || Major John Smith || .|| 1968
|-
| [[Where Eagles Dare]] || [[Clint Eastwood]] || Lieutenant Schaffer ||. || 1968
|-
| [[Where Eagles Dare]] || [[Ferdy Mayne]] || General Julius Rosemeyer ||. || 1968
|-
| [[Where Eagles Dare]] || [[Donald Houston]] || Christiansen ||. || 1968
|-
| [[On Her Majesty's Secret Service]] || [[George Lazenby]] || [[James Bond]] || .|| 1969
|-
| [[On Her Majesty's Secret Service]] || || Draco's henchmen ||. || 1969
|-
| [[On Her Majesty's Secret Service]] || [[Diana Rigg]] || Tracy || .|| 1969
|-
| [[Diamonds Are Forever]] || [[Sean Connery]] || [[James Bond]] || equipped brown-grips || 1971
|-
| [[Live and Let Die]] || [[Roger Moore]] || [[James Bond]] || .|| 1973
|-
| [[Live and Let Die]] || [[Julius Harris]] || Tee-Hee || .|| 1973
|-
| [[Live and Let Die]] || [[Lon Satton]] || Harold Strutter || .|| 1973
|-
| [[Man with the Golden Gun, The | The Man with the Golden Gun]] || [[Roger Moore]] || [[James Bond]] || .|| 1974
|-
| [[Odessa File, The|The Odessa File]] || [[Maximilian Schell]] || Eduard Roschmann || .|| 1974
|-
| [[The Eagle Has Landed]] || [[Robert Duvall]] || Colonel Rald ||. || 1976
|-
| [[Police Python 357]] || [[François Périer]] || Commissaire Ganay ||. || 1976
|-
| [[Black Sunday]] || [[Steven Keats]] || Moshevsky || .|| 1977
|-
| [[Spy Who Loved Me, The| The Spy Who Loved Me]] || [[Roger Moore]] || [[James Bond]] ||. || 1977
|-
| [[Spy Who Loved Me, The| The Spy Who Loved Me]] || [[Barbara Bach]] || Agent XXX/Major Anya Amasova || .|| 1977
|-
| [[For Your Eyes Only]] || [[Roger Moore]] || [[James Bond]] || .|| 1981
|-
| [[For Your Eyes Only]] || [[Stefan Kalipha]] || Hector Gonzales ||. || 1981
|-
| [[For Your Eyes Only]] || [[Chaim Topol]] || Milos Columbo ||. || 1981
|-
| [[For Your Eyes Only]] || [[Michael Gothard]] || Emil Locque ||. || 1981
|-
| [[Keep, The|The Keep]] || [[Gabriel Byrne]] || SS Major Kaempffer || .|| 1983
|-
| [[Videodrome]] || [[James Woods]] || Max Renn ||. || 1983
|-
| [[To Be or Not to Be (1983)]] || [[José Ferrer]] || Prof. Siletski ||. || 1983
|-
| [[A View to a Kill]] || [[Roger Moore]] || [[James Bond]] ||. || 1985
|-
| [[A View to a Kill]] || [[Grace Jones]] || May Day || .|| 1985
|-
| [[A View to a Kill]] || [[Christopher Walken]] || Max Zorin || .|| 1985
|-
| [[Assassination]] || [[Charles Bronson]] || Secret Service Agent Jay Killian || .|| 1986
|-
| [[Assassination]] || [[Randy Brooks]] || USSS Agent Tyler Loudermilk ||. || 1986
|-
| [[Death Wish 4]] || [[Charles Bronson]] || Paul Kersey ||. || 1987
|-
| [[Death Wish 4]] || [[Soon-Tek Oh]] || Detective Nozaki || suppressed || 1987
|-
| [[Living Daylights, The| The Living Daylights]] || [[Timothy Dalton]] || [[James Bond]] || occasionally seen suppressed || 1987
|-
| [[Die Hard]] || [[Alexander Godunov]] || Karl || with and without a suppressor || 1988
|-
| [[Licence to Kill]] || [[Timothy Dalton]] || [[James Bond]] || .|| 1989
|-
| [[Licence to Kill]] || [[Robert Davi]] || Franz Sanchez || .|| 1989
|-
| [[The Killer]] || [[Chow Yun-Fat]] || Ah Jong || actually an 8mm German-made blank replica || 1989
|-
| [[Pink Cadillac]] || [[Clint Eastwood]] || Tommy Nowak || .|| 1989
|-
| [[Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade]] || [[Julian Glover]] || Walter Donovan || .|| 1989
|-
| [[Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade]] || Various actors || German Communications Officers ||. || 1989
|-
| [[Desperate Hours]] || [[Mickey Rourke]] || Michael Bosworth || .|| 1990
|-
| [[Desperate Hours]] || [[Kelly Lynch]] || Nancy Breyers || .|| 1990
|-
| [[Desperate Hours]] || [[Elias Koteas]] || Wally Bosworth ||. || 1990
|-
| [[Desperate Hours]] || [[Anthony Hopkins]] || Tim Cornell ||. || 1990
|-
| [[The Last Boy Scout]] || [[Noble Willimgham]] || Shelly Marcone || Nickel-plated || 1991
|-
| [[Nothing But Trouble]] || [[Dan Aykroyd]] || Judge/'Reeve' Alvin Valkenheiser || Engraved Stainless version with Ivory Grips || 1991
|-
| [[Nothing But Trouble]] || [[Chevy Chase]] || Chris Thorne || Engraved stainless version with Ivory Grips || 1991
|-
| [[Shining Through]] || [[Joely Richardson]] || Margrete von Eberstein ||. || 1992
|-
| [[Shining Through]] || [[Melanie Griffith]] || Linda Voss ||. || 1992
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon 3]] || [[Stuart Wilson]] || Jack Travis || Stainless with suppressor || 1992
|-
| [[Jennifer Eight]] || [[Andy Garcia]] || Sgt. John Berlin || nickel-plated, referred to as a .32 || 1993
|-
| [[Goldeneye]] || [[Pierce Brosnan]] || [[James Bond]] || Occassionally seen suppressed || 1995
|-
| [[Goldeneye]] || [[Gottfried John]] || General Ourumov ||. || 1995
|-
| [[Tomorrow Never Dies]] || [[Pierce Brosnan]] || [[James Bond]] || Occasionally seen suppressed || 1995
|-
| [[Eraser]] || [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] || U.S. Marshal John Kruger || .|| 1995
|-
| [[Eraser]] || Various actors || Mafia assassins || Suppressed || 1995
|-
| [[Face/Off]] || [[Lauren Sinclair]] || FBI Agent Winters || Nickel-plated || 1997
|-
| [[Face/Off]] || || Dietrich's friend || Nickel-plated || 1997
|-
| [[Lola rennt| Run, Lola, Run]] || [[Moritz Bleibtreu]] || Manni || Stainless-steel finish || 1998
|-
| [[The Whole Nine Yards]] || [[Amanda Peet]] || Jill St. Claire ||. || 2000
|-
| [[Spider-Man]] || [[James Franco]] || Harry Osborne ||. || 2002
|-
| [[Blind Horizon]] || [[Faye Dunaway]] || Ms. K || Stainless-steel finish || 2003
|-
| [[The Punisher (2004)|The Punisher]] || [[James Carpinello]] || Robert Saint || Stainless steel finish || 2004
|-
| [[Downfall aka "Der Untergang"]] || [[Bruno Ganz]] || Adolf Hitler ||. || 2004
|-
| [[Downfall aka "Der Untergang"]] || Various actors || Various Nazi soldiers || .|| 2004
|-
| [[Spartan]] || [[Val Kilmer]] || Robert Scott ||. || 2004
|-
| [[Casino Royale (2006)]] || [[Daniel Craig]] || [[James Bond]] ||. || 2006
|-
| [[Casino Royale (2006)]] || || an Ugandan terrorist ||. || 2006
|-
| [[The Departed]] || [[Leonardo DiCaprio]] || William 'Billy' Costigan Jr. || Flat nickel-plated || 2006
|-
| [[The Departed]] || [[Matt Damon]] || Collin Sullivan || Flat nickel-plated || 2006
|-
| [[The Departed]] || [[James Badge Dale]] || trooper Barrigan || Flat nickel-plated || 2006
|-
| [[Payback]] || [[Lucy Liu]] || Pearl || Fitted with pearl grips || 2006
|-
| [[Black Book]] || || || Fitted with suppressor || 2006
|-
| [[Hot Fuzz]] || [[Lorraine Hilton]] || Amanda Paver || duel-wielded || 2007
|-
| [[Shoot 'Em Up]] || [[Clive Owen]] || Mr. Smith || .|| 2007
|-
| [[Shoot 'Em Up]] || [[Ramona Pringle]] || the Baby's Mother || .|| 2007
|-
| [[Valkyrie]] || [[Tom Cruise]] || Count Von Stauffenburg ||. || 2008
|-
| [[Valkyrie]] || [[Terence Stamp]] || General Ludwig Beck || .|| 2008
|-
| [[Valkyrie]] || [[Thomas Kretschmann]] || Major Otto Ernst Remer ||. || 2008
|-
| [[Valkyrie]] || [[Jamie Parker]] || Lieutenant Werner von Haeften ||. || 2008
|-
| [[Valkyrie]] || Various actors || German Officers ||. || 2008
|-
| [[Quantum of Solace]] || [[Daniel Craig]] || [[James Bond]] ||. || 2008
|-
| [[Did You Hear About the Morgans?]] || [[Michael Kelly]] || Vincent || Stainless steel finish and suppressed|| 2009
|-
| [[Inglorious Basterds (2009)]] || [[Michael Fassbender]] || British Lt. Archie Hicox ||. || 2009
|-
| [[Inglorious Basterds (2009)]] || [[Til Schweiger]] || Hugo Stiglitz ||. || 2009
|-
| [[Inglorious Basterds (2009)]] || [[Diane Kruger]] || Bridget Von Hammersmark ||. || 2009
|-
| [[Zombieland]] || [[Emma Stone]] || Wichita || . || 2009
|-
| [[Driven to Kill]] || . || thug || .|| 2009
|-
|}

=== Television ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[The Professionals]]/ "Stopover" ||. || Kodai || .|| 1977-1983
|-
| [[The Professionals]]/ "Takeaway" || .|| Esther || .|| 1977-1983
|-
| [[The Professionals]]/ "Dead Reckoning" ||. || Michael ||. || 1977-1983
|-
| [[The Professionals]]/ "Spy Probe" || [[Barry Stanton]] || Ferris ||. || 1977-1983
|-
| [[The Professionals]]/ "Spy Probe" ||. || Twig || Suppressed || 1977-1983
|-
| [[The Professionals]]/ "Spy Probe" || [[Lewis Collins]] || William Andrew Philip Bodie || .|| 1977-1983
|-
| [[Magnum, P.I.]]/ "The Big Blow" || [[Tom Selleck]] || Thomas Magnum || His backup gun || 1980-1988
|-
| [[Hunter]] || [[Stepfanie Kramer]] || Det. Sgt. Dee Dee McCall ||. || 1984-1991
|-
| [[Tales From The Crypt]]/ "Only Sin Deep" || [[Lea Thompson]] ||. || .|| 1989-1996
|-
| [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]/ "Vatman" || .|| A cloning expert || .|| 1993-1997
|-
| [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]] || .|| Lex's ex-wife || .|| 1993-1997
|-
| [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]] || [[Bruce Campbell]] || Bill Church Jr. || .|| 1993-1997
|-
| [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]/ "The Dad Who Came In From the Cold" || .|| Agent "Sweet Tart" || .|| 1993-1997
|-
| [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]/ "Tempus, Anyone?" || .|| Tempus ||. || 1993-1997
|-
| [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]/ "The Green, Green, Glow of Home" || .|| A Federal Agent || .|| 1993-1997
|-
| [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]] || .|| Dr. Isaac Mamba || Suppressed || 1993-1997
|-
| [[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]] || [[Avery Brooks]] || Benjamin Sisko ||. || 1993-1999
|-
| [[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]] || [[Alexander Siddig]] || Julian Bashir ||. || 1993-1999
|-
| [[Bugs]]/ "Out Of The Hive" ||. ||. || .|| 1995-1999
|-
| [[Millennium]] || [[Klea Scott]] || FBI Agent Emma Hollis ||. || 1996-1999
|-
| [[Seconds From Disaster]] || Various actors || West German Police officer ||. || 2004-2007
|-
| [[The Kill Point]] || [[Ryan Sands]] || Leroy Barnes ||. || 2007
|-
| [[Ultimate Force]]/ "Breakout" || || Sgt. Henno Garvie || Suppressed || 2002-2006
|-
| [[Ultimate Force]] || [[Ross Kemp]] || SAS Red troopers ||. || 2002-2006
|-
| [[Ultimate Force]] || [[Alex Reid]] || Captain Caroline Walsh ||. || 2002-2006
|-
| [[Monk]]/ "Mr. Monk Takes A Vacation" || [[Polly Draper]] || Security chief Rita Bronwyn ||. || 2002-2009
|-
| [[Monk]]/ "Mr. Monk Gets Jury Duty" || .|| Girlfriend of a drug dealer ||. || 2002-2009
|-
| [[Monk]]/ "Mr. Monk On Wheels" || .|| a criminal ||. || 2002-2009
|-
| [[Monk]]/ "Mr. Monk On Wheels" || [[Traylor Howard]] || Natalie Teeger || .|| 2002-2009
|-
| [[Monk]]/ "Mr. Monk Is Someone Else," || [[Tony Shalhoub]] || Adrian Monk ||. || 2002-2009
|-
| [[Guns]] || . || Gangbangers ||.|| 2008
|-
| [[Tatort]] || [[Michael Fitz]] || Carlo Menzinger ||. || 1970-???
|-
| [[Tatort]] || [[Miroslav Nemec]] || Kriminalhauptkommissar Ivo Batic ||. || 1970-???
|-
| [[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]/ "Leapin' Lizards" || || Hank Connor ||. || 2000-???
|-
| [[Criminal Minds]] ||. || Female serial killer || .|| 2005-???
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[GoldenEye 007]] || the "PP7" || Available with and without a suppressor || Silver and gold versions can be unlocked || 1997
|-
| [[Tomorrow Never Dies (VG)]] || the "PK7" || Always suppressed || .||1999
|-
| [[Perfect Dark]] || the "PP9i" || .|| .|| 2000
|-
| [[007: Nightfire]] || the Wolfram PP7 || Available with a removable suppressor || Gold version can be unlocked || 2002
|-
| [[From Russia with Love (VG)]] || the "Wolfram PP7" || fitted with suppressor for SP and without for MP ||. || 2005
|-
| [[Scarface: The World is Yours]] || the ".38" ||. || .|| 2006
|-
| [[Team Fortress 2]]|| the "Pistol" ||. ||. || 2007
|-
| [[James Bond 007: Blood Stone]] || the "PPK" || can be seen suppressed || .|| 2010
|-
|}

===Animation===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Film/TV Show'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[The Adventures of Tintin]] || .||. ||. || 1991-1992
|-
|}

===Anime===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Show Title/ Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Gunsmith Cats]] || ATF Agent Bill Collins / "Agent Double Oh 7-11" || .|| 1995-1996
|-
| [[Gunsmith Cats]] || Rally Vincent ||. || 1995-1996
|-
| [[Key the Metal Idol]] || Jinsaku Ajo || with silver finish || 1997
|-
| [[Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade]] || Fuse ||. || 1998
|-
| [[Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex]] || Unnamed assassin || Fitted with a sound suppressor || 2002-2003
|-
| [[Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo]] || Baron Danglars || Gold-plated || 2004-2005
|-
| [[Saikano]] ||. ||. || 2006
|-
| [[Case Closed: The Private Eyes' Requiem]] || Reiko || Stainless finish || 2006
|-
| [[Hellsing]] || Integra Hellsing || Used with fictional incendiary round|| 2006-???
|-
|}

 

==Walther PPK/S==
[[Image:WaltherPPKS.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Walther PPK/S stainless - .380 ACP.]]
[[Image:WaltherPPKSPachmayr.jpg‎ |thumb|right|350px|Walther PPK/S - stainless with Pachmayr rubber grips and factory flat bottom magazine - .380 ACP.]]
[[Image:PPKS blued.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Walther PPK/S blued - .380 ACP]]

The PPK was too small for importation into America, so to fix the problem, Walther slapped a PPK slide on a PP frame and built the PPK/S. The most notable way to tell a PPK from a PPK/S is its finish (a PPK/S is far more common as a stainless gun than a PPK) and longer frame spur. Also, Walther did managed to sell more pistols that would otherwise be banned under the harsh rules of GCA-68 by building them domestically (Walther U.S.A.).

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Gorky Park]] || [[Lee Marvin]] || Jack Osborne || gold-plated || 1983
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon]] ||. || A hoodlum ||. || 1987
|-
| [[Tequila Sunrise]] || [[Kurt Russell]] || Det. Frescia || engraved || 1988
|-
| [[Tequila Sunrise]] || [[Mel Gibson]] || Dale 'Mac' McKussic || engraved || 1988
|-
| [[RoboCop 3]] || [[Bradley Whitford]] || Fleck || Blued finish || 1993
|-
| [[Guarding Tess]] || [[James Rebhorn]] || F.B.I. Special Agent Howard Schaeffer ||. || 1994
|-
| [[Die Hard with a Vengence]] || [[Sam Phillips]] || Katya || with stainless steel finish and pearl grips || 1995
|-
| [[Bad Boys]] || [[Téa Leoni]] || Julie Mott ||. || 1995
|-
| [[Eraser]] || [[James Caan]] || U.S. Marshal Robert Deguerin || Often seen suppressed || 1996
|-
| [[The Long Kiss Goodnight]] || [[Geena Davis]] || Charly Baltimore || Stainless steel finish with wood-grips || 1996
|-
| [[The Long Kiss Goodnight]] || [[Brian Cox]] || Dr. Nathan Waldman || Stainless steel finish with wood-grips || 1996
|-
| [[Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery]] || [[Mike Myers]] || Austin Powers || Custom Nickel finish with pearl grips, standard grips during stuntwork || 1997
|-
| [[Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels]] || [[Vas Blackwood]] || Rory Breaker || duel-wielded || 1998
|-
| [[Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me]] || [[Mike Myers]] || Austin Powers || Custom Nickel finish with pearl grips, standard grips during stuntwork || 1999
|-
| [[Gone in Sixty Seconds]] || [[Christopher Eccleston]] || Calitri ||. || 2000
|-
| [[Austin Powers in Goldmember]] || [[Mike Myers]] || Austin Powers || Custom Nickel finish with pearl grips, standard grips during stuntwork || 2002
|-
| [[Hollywood Homicide]] || [[Dwight Yoakam]] || Leroy Wasley || .|| 2003
|-
| [[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]] || [[Brad Pitt]] || John Smith || Blued finish || 2005
|-
| [[16 Blocks]] || [[David Morse]] || Detective Frank Nugent || Blued finish || 2006
|-
| [[Mr. Brooks]] || [[Kevin Costner]] || Mr. Earl Brooks || Stainless finish and suppressed || 2007
|-
| [[Iron Man 2]] || [[Scarlett Johansson]] || SHIELD Agent Natasha Romanoff || .|| 2010
|-
|}

===Television===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[The Equalizer]] || [[Edward Woodward]] || Robert McCall ||. || 1985-1989
|-
| [[Hunter]]/ First 4 seasons || [[Stepfanie Kramer]] || Det. Sgt. Dee Dee McCall || Equipped with white plastic grips || 1984-1991
|-
|}

===Anime===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Show Title/ Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Case Closed: The Last Wizard of the Century]] || Seiran || Equipped with a scope, rail and laser sights || 1999(Japan)/2009(US)
|-
| [[The Skull Man]] || Ōtomo City Chief of Police ||. || 2007
|-
| [[The Skull Man]]/ "00" || turncoat Ōtomo Concern researcher ||. || 2007
|-
| [[The Sky Crawlers]] || Suito Kusanagi || Blued version || 2008
|-
| [[Eden of the East]] || Takizawa || seen in his closet || 2009
|-
| [[Case Closed]]/ "Head-to-Head Match With the Black Organization; Two Mysteries of the Night of the Full Moon" || Vermouth || .|| 1996-???
|-
| [[Case Closed]] || Shiho's sister || .|| 1996-???
|-
| [[Case Closed]] || Haibara || .|| 1996-???
|-
| [[Strike Witches]] || Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke ||. || 2008-???
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Little Busters!]] || || || Used by various characters || 2007
|-
| [[Zombie Panic Source]] ||"PPK" || ||incorrectly fires 9x19mm ammo || 2007
|-
|}

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Airplane II: The Sequel

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'''The following guns were used in the movie ''Airplane II: The Sequel (1982)'''''
[[Image:A2_cover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Airplane II: The Sequel (1982)]]

"Airplane II: The Sequel," is the 1982 sequel to the 1980 comedy classic, [[Airplane!]]. The writers and directors of "Airplane!", David Zucker, Jim Abrahams and Jerry Zucker, refused to take part, and claim to have never even watched "Airplane II." The film brings back the two leads from "Airplane!", Robert Hays and Julie Hagerty, as well as some supporting actors, like Lloyd Bridges, Peter Graves, Stephen Stucker, Al White (one of the Jive Dudes) and Lee Bryant (the hysterical lady.) Chuck Connors, Rip Torn, John Vernon, Sonny Bono, Raymond Burr, and William Shatner round out the all-star cast. Whereas "Airplane!" was a spoof of "Zero Hour!" and the "Airport" movies, "Airplane II" was pretty much just a spoof of "Airplane!" That, the recycling of jokes ("The sun, what is it?!" "A large, fiery ball at the center of our solar system, but that's not important now.") and the lack of participation from the original creators, causes "Airplane II" to be an afterthought in the minds of many compared to the original.
= Handguns =
== Smith & Wesson Model 13 ==
The porter ([[Kenneth O'Brien]]) shoots Jimmy's dog, Scraps, with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 13]] only to reveal a second later that he's using blanks. This is the only gun that fires onscreen in this film.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel13.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 13]]

[[Image:A2_SW13_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The porter shoots Scraps.]]

[[Image:A2_SW13_02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Just kidding, only blanks.]]

== Walther P38 ==
An off-screen actor holds a [[Walther P38]] pistol to the Moscow anchorman's head. After screen cuts away, a gunshot is heard, but the anchorman shows up alive towards the end.

[[Image:P38Black.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther P38. The one from the film has a shorter barrel, but unlike the P38K, the front site remains on the barrel, and not on the slide.]]

[[Image:A2_P38.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ah, the Cold War...]]

I think that is a MGC replica pistol. It has the bobbed hammer, and short barrel of their U.N.C.L.E P38 replica. David.

== Various revolvers ==
During Ted's stay in the psychiatric hospital, his fellow patients pull out revolvers and put them to their heads rather than listen to Ted's story. A gunshot is heard off-screen.

[[Image:A2_suicides.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Not all of them are clear enough for ID.]]

= Rifles =
== Unknown M16 variant ==
In a gag playing off of the recent Iranian hostage crisis, the Iran Air courtesy shuttle drops off blindfolded passengers, along with guards wielding [[M16 rifle series|M16s.]] It's hard to tell which variant they are, however.

[[Image:M16SP1Birdcage.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16SP1]]

[[Image:A2_M16_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably a lot funnier now than it was back then.]]

= Machine Guns =

== Browning M2 Aircraft ==

A terrorist carries a [[Browning_M2#Browning_M2_Aircraft| Browning M2 Aircraft]] machine gun through the metal detector, without security noticing. This is most likely a rubber prop, as the actor appears to be carrying it and an ammo belt with ease.

[[Image:M2aircraft.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The one from the film had spade grips.]]

[[Image:A2_M2_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably a lot funnier then than it is now.]]

== MG15 ==

During Ted's flashback to Macho Grande, a [[MG15 machine gun]] is seen. This is just stock footage from [[Airplane!]], which used stock footage from World War II.

[[Image:MG15.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG15 machine gun]]

[[Image:A2_MG15_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px| "Over Macho Grande?" "No. I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande."]]

= Miscellaneous =
== Various weapons ==

A group of terrorists carry various heavy weapons through the airport metal detector while airport security thoroughly check an old lady.

[[Image:A2 terrorists.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

=See Also=

* ''[[Airplane!]]''

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