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		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Apocalypse</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* HK UMP Submachinegun */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Alice's P14 Thigh holsters ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone identify the thigh holsters Alice uses please? --[[User:Sidewinder Forge|Sidewinder Forge]] 08:44, 6 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nemesis' Minigun. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no way the Minigun itself would weigh 60-80 pounds with cut down barrels and some aluminum casing added onto it.  A real steel Dillon or GE model is about 57 pounds, and the Titanium model is about 45.  So 60-80 pounds would be pretty heavy for a Minigun.&lt;br /&gt;
:We have the armorer here on site and we are going by what he has said. Frankly having picked up a stripped down Minigun before 60 to 80 pounds is about right.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 15:59, 12 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It may have been 60-80 pounds, but that isn't &amp;quot;light&amp;quot; for a Minigun, given that GE and Dillon, you know, the guys who make the weapon, claim it's about 60 pounds at the most, minus ammo.  Now if you're including the weight of the chute and the ammo, maybe it weighs about that much, but it should be clarified that the entire system weighed 60-80 pounds versus the gun itself which probably weighed about 50.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, who deleted the info I posted about the way the gun was setup in the movie and supposed fire rate of the weapon?  Was there any reason for that?  I thought it was interesting that the movie was edited so that the weapon appears to have a very consistent fire rate of 4400 RPM.  It's not something you would notice unless you were going scene by scene and looking for it, which suggests to me it was deliberate, rather than coincidental.&lt;br /&gt;
:I did as the &amp;quot;ammo counter&amp;quot; was not hooked up to the feed system at all. basically it was a little LED counter rigged to run backwards from 5,000 or whatever number the director decided on. Thus that LED ran at whatever speed the director though looked cool. while it was attached to the weapon it had nothing to do with the rate of fire of that particular minigun. --[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 17:02, 14 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I explicitly stated that that wasn't the true fire rate.  I still thought it was interesting to note the level of detail that went into the film's post production regarding the weapon.  And I was more talking about the HUD than the ammo counter.  It's all good.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why didn't they give Jill the classic Samurai Edge(custom Beretta 92FS) as her handgun? The STARS all have this gun I don't see why the armorer couldn't get one :(&lt;br /&gt;
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Making a Samurai Edge in real life would be very expensive. Custom sights, a Brigadier slide, custom trademarks, a completely unique grip set, an extended slidestop; all of this would add up very quickly.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey if people can do it on a youtube video then the armorer should have no trouble&lt;br /&gt;
:Video? This is relevant to my interests. Can you provide a link?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 08:00, 12 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No need, just go on youtube and type &amp;quot;samurai edge&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:The &amp;quot;Samurai Edge&amp;quot;s on youtube are all fake airsoft --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 19:05, 12 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I edited name &amp;quot;Yuri Loginova&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Yuri Loginov&amp;quot;. It's a correct form of russian male name. &amp;quot;Loginova&amp;quot; is female last name. I'm russian to be sure. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pumping shotgun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:CTRes5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Charles Taylor]] points the Mossbergs as Alice. In the interview says it is very difficult to do.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Unrealistically, she can fire it one handed.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes it would be difficult, but remember she's been experimented on by Umbrella, she has heightened speed, strength, and agility.&lt;br /&gt;
:The grip is custom, so it might be easier shoot one handed with that customization.&lt;br /&gt;
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*It is possible to fire a twelve gauge shotgun one handed without injury.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, but you then hav to rack the slide to reload, so it's pointless&lt;br /&gt;
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== HK UMP Submachinegun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am SURE I sam a Umbrella trooper with a HK UMP but it isn't on the page. Please fix it. Appreciate it.&lt;br /&gt;
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:If you think something is missing, then screencap it and add it yourself instead of waiting on someone else to do it--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 13:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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fair enough give me some time dude.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 09:44, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Afterlife</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Weapons Cache */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Another one? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I still can't believe they are making another RE movie. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Just don't take it seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Unfortunately Excalibur, I'm with the others on this one.  Just don't watch it and stop complaining about it ;) LOL [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But I LOVE to bitch about things [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I can't wait for this movie. :) [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I agree with spartan, the movie looks awsome&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I for one LOVE these movies. When I heard there is another one I was like &amp;quot;YES, please! Gimme gimme gimme.&amp;quot; [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 22:04, 11 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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The only problem I have with the franchise is that the endings are confusing to me. Maybe I'm just not paying close enough attention, but the end of the 2nd film lost me; when they run from the helicopter crash yet return in Umbrella Gear and pick Alice up. Can anyone explain? Anyway, I am looking forward to this film. LASTMANSTANDING&lt;br /&gt;
*I wonder why they are still making more of these despite those negative reviews and ratings. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Becasue they are still making a handsome profit at the boxoffice and video rentals. Who cares about the critics? --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it me or are some elements from this based on Akira, Example: Alice has telekentic powers, it's in some far east country, Lots of Soldiers attack yet are killed, Wesker has a Desert Eagle-[[User:Big guns 100|Big guns 100]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Macedonian Shooting==&lt;br /&gt;
it is just me or dose it look like Wesker is using the Russian shooting style called  Macedonian Shooting?&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's just dual wielding or Akimbo. There's nothing tactical about it. And if only the Russians invent a style for double guns, then it shows you how good it is if the Russians are using it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:28, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Macedonian shooting&amp;quot;? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A simple google search of Macedonian Shooting turns up that it was supposedly utilized by NKVD officers who were equipped with two double action revolvers, and was more a method of forcing an enemy to cover than trying to accurately land shots on target. Also Ed McGivern talked about dual wielding in his Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting Book, something about teaching some techniques for it to Law Enforcement Officers of the 1920's or some such, so let's cut the nationalistic horseshit. This isn't the Cold War, you don't gotta kill a Commie for Mommy or whatever. Grow up. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] 10:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No you should grow up Toadvine.  Don't know where THAT tirade came from.  But the Russians currently do a lot of things which western weapons and fighting disciplines look askance at.  The 'spider/hand' style of patrolling, the acrobatic Spetznas training, etc.  Face it.  The Russians do weird things.  Or things that seem weird to us.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay, seriously, does anyone actually know if the Spetznaz are trained to do the whole 'Backflipping off a springboard while throwing a tomahawk' shit? Because I've never been sure if that was fact or fiction. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 04:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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acora, I don’t think they train to actually use some of their techniques as an actual combat method I think they use them purely to develop the sense in their troops that they are superior to normal soldiers because they can do such cool looking stuff. also I think there’s a fairly cunning amount of psyops going on. &amp;quot;don’t screw with spetznas they are like crazy ninjas&amp;quot; wouldn’t necessarily effect well disciplined troops but it should put the fear of god into the average grunt from around the world. they certainly do have some crazy demostration stuff that they do for open days and base shows. Fenris357 1255hrs 26 july 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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Well just because they do something weird, doesn't mean that it's weird, it might be weird to us but to them its perfectly normal. I'm sure to them some of our training is weird to them. But imagine if the U.S. and Russia made an elite fighting force, no one would fuck with them. [[User:DRC92|DRC92]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I can't wait for it i loved the first 3&lt;br /&gt;
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has anyone noticed that Alice's double barreled shotguns have black grips of the first photo?&lt;br /&gt;
:Rubber. I think she's gonna smack someone with it or just drop them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Alice seems to always dual wield every weapon she has. The shotguns and 629's in this film, P-14's and kukris in Extinction, batons, MP5K's and P-14's in Apocalypse. Next thing she probably carries dual M4's, or even M60's. --[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 13:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC) She was using P-18's in Extinction.&lt;br /&gt;
::It looks more badass + bigger firepower. And in first part she packed single beretta if i remember rite.&lt;br /&gt;
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i thought there was something different with them rubber it is then&lt;br /&gt;
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==Samurai Edge==&lt;br /&gt;
I hope we get to see Weskers custom Beretta.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seems he is wielding dual Desert Eagles. So tell me as somebody that has not have the movies ruine the game (since i've never played them), what does Weskers custom Beretta look like? Anybody got any pics [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 21:56, 11 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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Just look at the RE5 page.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 22:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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After googling it I have to ask: &amp;quot;Am I missing something?&amp;quot;. It's just a Beretta 92 with a full dust cover with a rail.  [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 07:45 13 April 2010 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You definitely are missing something. It has a bevertail tang (something that no production 92F has), a tactical rail, extended magazine catch, skeletal hammer, plus the multitude of features found on the other Samurai Edge customs (extended slide-stop, custom multi-layered grips, brigadier slide).--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:53, 14 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Fair enough but nothing I cannot do with my Beretta 92 except for the bevertail. I haven't seen that option to buy somewhere. But I did miss something cause the images I got definately didn't show all of those features. Thanks for the info. :) Does somebody have an image to stick here. :) :)  [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 11:38, 16 April 2010 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Like I said, a 92F beavertail was never put into production, so that means that such a frame would have to be custom crafted. Plus all of the other features together would be well over $1,000 for someone to replicate. And there's no reason to put an image of it here; just go to the RE5 page on this site. All of the customizations can be easily seen there.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 16:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Personally, I prefer the standard model. Don't really need all that, when it's already a pretty damn nice-looking gun. [[User:Anti-Umbrella Activist|Anti-Umbrella Activist]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sunglasses reflection ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually is is very much Ali's Claire Redfield.  Try reading some of the set reports for the movie because IMDB isn't going to tell you anything except for who is playing who.&lt;br /&gt;
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You know your absolutely right...IMDB is never wrong...EVER.  Lets just forget the fact that they had Kacey listed as Jill Valentine for over a month.&lt;br /&gt;
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Look at Kacey's upwards turned nose and very full lipped mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see anyone commenting on my proof that is is Claire that I posted below.  Everyone decide to shut up now that you've been proven wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's not a terribly mature response. And start signing your posts.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 21:38, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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and if you noticed under i did comment that you were right &amp;quot;NICELY DONE&amp;quot; but you remained a dick, i agree entirely with pistol junkie you are immature you are most probably oblivious of that fact.--[[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:You're not helping things by responding like that, either.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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its my arguement stop butting in im allowed to respond in any way i can and want    --[[User:moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:If that's your belief, you may want to review the site's [[Rules, Standards and Principles]], specifically Principles.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 09:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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...no&lt;br /&gt;
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anyway you are argueing too if you haven't noticed so you look at the rules too before you start telling others to stop what your doing   --[[User:moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not referring to arguing or debating. I'm referring to hostile, profane insults towards other users. It would seem you did not bother to read the page that I linked to.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 12:31, 18 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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calling somebody immature is still an insult nonetheless. the rules apply to everyone even you. [[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well [[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]].  Looks like you got the last laugh.  [[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]] was banned for being a dick and a mega douche. :)  Just commenting that's all.  :D  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wesker vs Chris, Claire and Alice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's called research people.  Read it and weep fools.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://scifiwire.com/2010/04/resident-evil-afterlife-n.php&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/19697&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and here is a side by side picture of the girl in the lens and Kacey.  You'd have to be a complete moron to think they even look the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://img173.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50647_Untitled_3_122_73lo.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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Well would you look at this.  Seems like Ali Larter herself did an interview for the fine folks over at ShockTillYouDrop.com and wouldn't you know it...she talks about the fight scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Shock: You know that big fight scene coming up next week with Wentworth and Shawn [Roberts]. Have you been practicing? What's it been like?&lt;br /&gt;
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Larter: We did. We did some stunt rehearsal for that which is great. I think that a lot of the fan boys are going to be thrilled because it is beat by beat from the videogame. It is drawn directly from it and I think with this movie, one of the most exciting things is that this is the most like the videogame. I mean, I'm dressed in the outfit that Claire wears. You see me and Chris in this fight sequence, it's really beat for beat.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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source - http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/interviewsnews.php?id=14786&lt;br /&gt;
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aaaaaah i guess you were right &lt;br /&gt;
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::the movies have already ruined the back story of RE, now they got stuff from RE 5, so yeah, circle complete. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I don't see how the movies could have ruined the game plot considering both are entirely separate universes. That's like saying Prince of Persia (2008) ruined the plot of the Sands of Time Trilogy even though it had nothing to do with the Sands of Time plot. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Look, when you make a movie based on something, you expect it to at least respect the source material. The RE movies were only too busy doing cameo moments to the games. Nothing about the story makes sense compared the source it's based on. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Tell that to Uwe Boll --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 05:01, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's just it, these movies are '''based on''' the games, not '''identical to''' them. I don't get why people want video game movies to be word-for-word, scene-for-scene translations of the games themselves. I want to see something I haven't already seen, as I imagine a lot of other people do. I don't want to know what happened or who's going to live and die before the movie even starts filming. Or does playing the games mean I'm somehow not entitled to an original plotline? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's not that people want an exact replica of the games.  We just want something decent.  It's hard to make a movie based on a video game, much like making a movie based on a book.  The Lord of the Rings series cut out HUGE chunks of the books.  It's understandable.  How are you going to collapse 600 pages of text into a two hour movie?  It's the same with video games.  Condensing 6-8 hours of gameplay into 1.5-2 hours of a movie is hard.  I think people would mind it less if it was canon, instead of &amp;quot;it's another universe so we can do whatever the hell we want.&amp;quot;  Degeneration was canon.  This is probably the reason that the game fans don't like the movie.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I found the Anderson movies to be just that, ''decent''. They weren't perfect, but they sure as hell &amp;quot;respect the source material&amp;quot; a lot more than even ''Capcom'' does these days. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 04:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You seriously believe that Anderson is respecting the source material of Resident Evil better than Capcom? I mean the first 2 movies are ok, but once he started to do the end of the world, Road Warrior look in the 3rd movie. Then with clones of Alice and now he's just ripping off character concepts from RE5... [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:22, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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They might as well be. They wasted over six years' worth of material in ten seconds with RE4 (seriously, what the hell), and ended the entire series' plot arcs in two (with RE5). &lt;br /&gt;
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The problem I have with the movies (even Degeneration) is that they pull all of these BS &amp;quot;character development&amp;quot;; it's PLOT development. The characters aren't even character in their own right anymore, they're just mouths to say cute little quips and trigger fingers to shoot guns with. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Shotguns==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can clearly see from the stills alice has the revolvers under her arms anf the dual sawn offs on her back. So why does it say she holsters them under her arms. Look at the pics! --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did you notice that Alice loaded her shotgun shell with quarters, that was pretty awesome, if it's even possible-[[User:Big guns 100|Big guns 100]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alice==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alice is really packing some heavy hardware in this movie.--[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]  24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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She is, but why did she switch from her high capacity 45's and pump action shotgun from ''Extinction'' to 5-shot revolvers and double barrel shotguns? I know the heavy revolver rounds were great against the mutated undead, and that the coin-loaded shotgun shells might not have worked as well in a pump action, and I can understand how she might have lost them sometime between the assault on the Umbrella facility and her flight to Arcadia, but still, it seems like a step back considering the endless hordes of the undead that she faces.--[[User:Calgunkid|Calgunkid]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Akimbo ripoffs ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ever since Modern Warfare 2 came out, I think the makers of this movie are playing on the akimbo feature. I mean: akimbo twin-barrels, akimbo revolvers, what more is there? Anybody agree, or see anything?&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't she dual wielded almost everything she's fired since the second movie? --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 04:00, 12 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree she dual wielded her MP5Ks and her Para-Ordnance P-14s. And in the third film she dual wielded her Para Ordinance PXT LDA Light Rails. [[User:AceV|AceV]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Not everything is an MW2 ripoff. Even if that's where you got all your gun knowledge from. And sign your posts. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 06:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i would like to add something. I know my guns but i do like how mw2 teaches people about them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Except Modern Warfare 2 is WRONG. About TONS of stuff.-protoAuthor 00:10, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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take the fucking winchester out your ass and stop causing trouble.    [[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Shooting guns akimbo has always been in media. I mean, watch any good cowboy movie or John Woo movie. John Woo's movie has perfected the art of double guns in movies [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:56, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Shooting guns akimbo is about as old as guns themselves are. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gotta love how people saying akimbo guns must be based on Modern Warfare, despite the fact that people wielding guns akimbo has been around in movies and television since the 1930's. Hell, I recently saw a Western themed episode of the THREE STOOGES where their cowboy friend pulls 2 pistols at once. Seriously people, just cause MW has something doesn't mean everything else that has that same thing is based on it, ESPECIALLY when said thing has been around much longer than MW. I'll also note MW wasn't the first game to feature it either, Rise of the Triad had it, Blood had it...and these are games that are too old to even run on my current PC. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Those other games aren't as mainstream thats why. The newer Goldeneye you could dual wield most guns. Most of these people don't understand that MW2 got dual wielding for somewhere else. Unless IW has a timemachine and went back in time and influenced others like John Woo about dual wielding.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Certainly not as mainstream as Halo 2... (note: that was sarcasm) or its ancestor, Marathon, which along with Rise of the Triad were the first game to feature akimbo guns. (They have the same release date.) Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K.² featured the option to wield two non-matching guns at once. Of course, Marathon came out in 1994 - A Better Tomorrow and its iconic portrayal of Chow Yun Fat wielding pistols akimbo in a John Woo movie came out 1986, which would only be around 23 years before Modern Warfare came out. There have been probably '''hundreds''' of video games and movies where a character is depicted as using two firearms at once. From my desk, if I look at my video game collection, I can see ten or fifteen from here. Never mind if I turn and look at my movie shelves. But Google &amp;quot;dual wielding in video games&amp;quot; and most of the hits will be about Modern Warfare 2. Why? Because if the hype about dual-wielding in MW2 is any indication, video gamers have a memory lasting no more than 3 years. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 13:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well gamers who are under 15 years old, which are most of the players. Us &amp;quot;older&amp;quot; guys remember way back then [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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First game I remember dual wielding is Goldeneye for the PS2, a few years before even Call of duty 3.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 22:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Heh, first one I remember is Rise of the Triad, back in '95. You could dual wield pistols, which had unlimited ammo to boot. Absurd, but fun. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 20:36, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:First game I remember dual wielding in is [[Dino Crisis 2]], with Regina and her two MP5KNs. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Original Timesplitters for me. DOUBLE MINIGUNS!!!1 [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 11:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My question is ow long has it been called akimbo? Absolutely evey single time I've ever seen two guns being used by one person at the same time I've always refered to it or heard it refered to as either dual-wielding or simply &amp;quot;shooting two guns&amp;quot;, up until MW2 started calling it Akimbo. I thought it was just trying to be original or artsy or whatever, as its actual definition has absolutely nothing to do with holding two guns or even holding anything, but people on here are calling it Akimbo too, so have I just happened to have never heard it called that before or has MW2 corrupted this place too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::For any thirteen-year-old COD fanboys who might think that the term &amp;quot;Guns Akimbo&amp;quot; comes exclusively from Modern Warfare 2, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_wield#Etymology please learn how to use the internet.]--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 21:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The first Left 4 Dead if you went through a Campaign using just two pistols you complete the achievement, Akimbo Assassin.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
And look the guy who claims to know guns tells him to get the Winchester out of a guy's ass in MW2 there's the Winchester Model 1887.  Akimbo would be having 2 uneven guns at once any way like an assault rifle and a pistol.  Not 2 of the same gun that's dual wielding.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the success of Action Quake 2, from 1998 the word akimbo was adopted into computer gaming in reference to the dual wielding of two weapons. It was mentioned prior to 1998 in the game Blood, as a power-up called the &amp;quot;Guns Akimbo&amp;quot;. For example, in a first person shooter game, the player might choose a &amp;quot;pistols akimbo&amp;quot; option to wield one gun in each hand. In Far Cry Instincts when a player is dual-wielding weapons it is called Akimbo, and in Left 4 Dead there is an achievement for playing a campaign with only pistols, called Akimbo Assassin, and in Counter Strike:Source there is an achievement;Akimbo King. Enemy Territory: Quake Wars features an experience reward called Akimbo Pistols, which are the only dual wield weapons in the game. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 features dual-wielding pistols and other one handed weapons, with the Akimbo attachment, found on Submachine Guns, Handguns, Machine Pistols and certain shotguns.&lt;br /&gt;
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Further more the term akimbo applies to use of a firearm in each hand irrespective of similarity, meaning the same as dual weilding, neither term specifically applies to the weapon content in each hand matching or differing --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 09:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Since our friend Al did the guns, he can confirm the weapons 100%==&lt;br /&gt;
Al Vrkljan, friend and fellow IMFDB member was the armorer for this movie.  If anyone could, he can confirm exactly what guns were used in this film. :)  Great work Al! :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
When can we expect pictures and IDs of the weapons from him? Any idea?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Just watched it==&lt;br /&gt;
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Albert Wesker is the funniest character in cinematic history, He is undoubtably king of the douchebags. My mate describes him as 'Your dad doing an impression of Agent Smith'. Ok now I have that out the way this movie was all over the shop. A few nice bits and bobs but mostly crap. Better than the first one tho. Kim Coates' (Bennett) definatly uses a Walther pp/ppk/ppks ( I can never tell the difference.) Angel Ortiz (the hispanic looking merc) was armed with a H&amp;amp;K rifle, Id say a G3 but i cant remeber too well. The Smith revolvers manage to dish out around 10 rounds each without reloading, the shotguns about 4 and the MP5K fires on full auto for about a full minuit, Good old hollywood magazines eh? Anyone else notice that for some reason you no longer need headshots to kill a zombie? Im just rambling now, but Wentworth Miller was quite good as chris and showed proficient gun handling and trigger disciplin and the final showdown might as well just be a Beretta advert --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:40, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Aww man, your friend's comment is freakin awesome. When I saw the trailer my first thought was &amp;quot;Wow, this guy looks like like he's trying to be Agent Smith, but...douche-ier&amp;quot;. And yeah, I noticed zombies getting killed by body shots as far back as the second movie(I...don't honestly remember much about the first, so I dunno if a headshot was required there or not). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 03:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It would be more Agent Smith ripping him off.  He's been like that throughout the game series which came out before the Matrix.&lt;br /&gt;
:He didn't get super powers(which I'm pretty sure, includes flipping over bullets) until Code Veronica in 2000. Matrix came out in '99. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But Agent Smith wasn't a complete Joke, seriously, the guys wearing sunglasses in an underground command center. I've never laughed so much at what was mean to be a serious role. Plus he cant shoot for shit. The alice clones are rappelling in a straight line straight towards him and he cant hit them? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 09:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If what you say is true, the movie completely misinterpreted Wesker. D: The sunglasses, at first, were just meant to set him apart from everyone else, as he was the only character in the games with sunglasses. Then when he got his powers they served to cover up his red eyes. And in the games he's pretty much a dead-eye, which is kind of a bitch during the boss fights with him. Leave it to the Resi movies to ruin one of the series' best characters... --[[User:K|K]] 18:02, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tho I never really played beyond resi 2, game wesker did come across as fairly cool and villain-y. But the movie version is just a joke, you can have a no-prize if you can watch his performace without just laughing at him. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 21:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapons Cache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone who can name these weapons would be a great help. Thanks :P&lt;br /&gt;
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HK MP5A3 9x19mm,&lt;br /&gt;
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Glock 17 or 19 9x19mm,&lt;br /&gt;
HK UMP-9 9x19mm,&lt;br /&gt;
HK G3A3 7.62x51mm,&lt;br /&gt;
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damn i wish the photo wasn't so grainy.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 09:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Another one? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I still can't believe they are making another RE movie. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Unfortunately Excalibur, I'm with the others on this one.  Just don't watch it and stop complaining about it ;) LOL [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I can't wait for this movie. :) [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I for one LOVE these movies. When I heard there is another one I was like &amp;quot;YES, please! Gimme gimme gimme.&amp;quot; [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 22:04, 11 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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The only problem I have with the franchise is that the endings are confusing to me. Maybe I'm just not paying close enough attention, but the end of the 2nd film lost me; when they run from the helicopter crash yet return in Umbrella Gear and pick Alice up. Can anyone explain? Anyway, I am looking forward to this film. LASTMANSTANDING&lt;br /&gt;
*I wonder why they are still making more of these despite those negative reviews and ratings. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Becasue they are still making a handsome profit at the boxoffice and video rentals. Who cares about the critics? --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it me or are some elements from this based on Akira, Example: Alice has telekentic powers, it's in some far east country, Lots of Soldiers attack yet are killed, Wesker has a Desert Eagle-[[User:Big guns 100|Big guns 100]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Macedonian Shooting==&lt;br /&gt;
it is just me or dose it look like Wesker is using the Russian shooting style called  Macedonian Shooting?&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's just dual wielding or Akimbo. There's nothing tactical about it. And if only the Russians invent a style for double guns, then it shows you how good it is if the Russians are using it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:28, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A simple google search of Macedonian Shooting turns up that it was supposedly utilized by NKVD officers who were equipped with two double action revolvers, and was more a method of forcing an enemy to cover than trying to accurately land shots on target. Also Ed McGivern talked about dual wielding in his Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting Book, something about teaching some techniques for it to Law Enforcement Officers of the 1920's or some such, so let's cut the nationalistic horseshit. This isn't the Cold War, you don't gotta kill a Commie for Mommy or whatever. Grow up. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] 10:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No you should grow up Toadvine.  Don't know where THAT tirade came from.  But the Russians currently do a lot of things which western weapons and fighting disciplines look askance at.  The 'spider/hand' style of patrolling, the acrobatic Spetznas training, etc.  Face it.  The Russians do weird things.  Or things that seem weird to us.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay, seriously, does anyone actually know if the Spetznaz are trained to do the whole 'Backflipping off a springboard while throwing a tomahawk' shit? Because I've never been sure if that was fact or fiction. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 04:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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acora, I don’t think they train to actually use some of their techniques as an actual combat method I think they use them purely to develop the sense in their troops that they are superior to normal soldiers because they can do such cool looking stuff. also I think there’s a fairly cunning amount of psyops going on. &amp;quot;don’t screw with spetznas they are like crazy ninjas&amp;quot; wouldn’t necessarily effect well disciplined troops but it should put the fear of god into the average grunt from around the world. they certainly do have some crazy demostration stuff that they do for open days and base shows. Fenris357 1255hrs 26 july 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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Well just because they do something weird, doesn't mean that it's weird, it might be weird to us but to them its perfectly normal. I'm sure to them some of our training is weird to them. But imagine if the U.S. and Russia made an elite fighting force, no one would fuck with them. [[User:DRC92|DRC92]]&lt;br /&gt;
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has anyone noticed that Alice's double barreled shotguns have black grips of the first photo?&lt;br /&gt;
:Rubber. I think she's gonna smack someone with it or just drop them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Alice seems to always dual wield every weapon she has. The shotguns and 629's in this film, P-14's and kukris in Extinction, batons, MP5K's and P-14's in Apocalypse. Next thing she probably carries dual M4's, or even M60's. --[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 13:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC) She was using P-18's in Extinction.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seems he is wielding dual Desert Eagles. So tell me as somebody that has not have the movies ruine the game (since i've never played them), what does Weskers custom Beretta look like? Anybody got any pics [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 21:56, 11 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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Just look at the RE5 page.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 22:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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After googling it I have to ask: &amp;quot;Am I missing something?&amp;quot;. It's just a Beretta 92 with a full dust cover with a rail.  [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 07:45 13 April 2010 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You definitely are missing something. It has a bevertail tang (something that no production 92F has), a tactical rail, extended magazine catch, skeletal hammer, plus the multitude of features found on the other Samurai Edge customs (extended slide-stop, custom multi-layered grips, brigadier slide).--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:53, 14 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Fair enough but nothing I cannot do with my Beretta 92 except for the bevertail. I haven't seen that option to buy somewhere. But I did miss something cause the images I got definately didn't show all of those features. Thanks for the info. :) Does somebody have an image to stick here. :) :)  [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 11:38, 16 April 2010 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Like I said, a 92F beavertail was never put into production, so that means that such a frame would have to be custom crafted. Plus all of the other features together would be well over $1,000 for someone to replicate. And there's no reason to put an image of it here; just go to the RE5 page on this site. All of the customizations can be easily seen there.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 16:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Personally, I prefer the standard model. Don't really need all that, when it's already a pretty damn nice-looking gun. [[User:Anti-Umbrella Activist|Anti-Umbrella Activist]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sunglasses reflection ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually is is very much Ali's Claire Redfield.  Try reading some of the set reports for the movie because IMDB isn't going to tell you anything except for who is playing who.&lt;br /&gt;
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You know your absolutely right...IMDB is never wrong...EVER.  Lets just forget the fact that they had Kacey listed as Jill Valentine for over a month.&lt;br /&gt;
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Look at Kacey's upwards turned nose and very full lipped mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see anyone commenting on my proof that is is Claire that I posted below.  Everyone decide to shut up now that you've been proven wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's not a terribly mature response. And start signing your posts.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 21:38, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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and if you noticed under i did comment that you were right &amp;quot;NICELY DONE&amp;quot; but you remained a dick, i agree entirely with pistol junkie you are immature you are most probably oblivious of that fact.--[[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:You're not helping things by responding like that, either.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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its my arguement stop butting in im allowed to respond in any way i can and want    --[[User:moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:If that's your belief, you may want to review the site's [[Rules, Standards and Principles]], specifically Principles.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 09:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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anyway you are argueing too if you haven't noticed so you look at the rules too before you start telling others to stop what your doing   --[[User:moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not referring to arguing or debating. I'm referring to hostile, profane insults towards other users. It would seem you did not bother to read the page that I linked to.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 12:31, 18 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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calling somebody immature is still an insult nonetheless. the rules apply to everyone even you. [[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well [[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]].  Looks like you got the last laugh.  [[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]] was banned for being a dick and a mega douche. :)  Just commenting that's all.  :D  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wesker vs Chris, Claire and Alice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's called research people.  Read it and weep fools.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://scifiwire.com/2010/04/resident-evil-afterlife-n.php&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and here is a side by side picture of the girl in the lens and Kacey.  You'd have to be a complete moron to think they even look the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Shock: You know that big fight scene coming up next week with Wentworth and Shawn [Roberts]. Have you been practicing? What's it been like?&lt;br /&gt;
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::the movies have already ruined the back story of RE, now they got stuff from RE 5, so yeah, circle complete. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I don't see how the movies could have ruined the game plot considering both are entirely separate universes. That's like saying Prince of Persia (2008) ruined the plot of the Sands of Time Trilogy even though it had nothing to do with the Sands of Time plot. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Look, when you make a movie based on something, you expect it to at least respect the source material. The RE movies were only too busy doing cameo moments to the games. Nothing about the story makes sense compared the source it's based on. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Tell that to Uwe Boll --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 05:01, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's just it, these movies are '''based on''' the games, not '''identical to''' them. I don't get why people want video game movies to be word-for-word, scene-for-scene translations of the games themselves. I want to see something I haven't already seen, as I imagine a lot of other people do. I don't want to know what happened or who's going to live and die before the movie even starts filming. Or does playing the games mean I'm somehow not entitled to an original plotline? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's not that people want an exact replica of the games.  We just want something decent.  It's hard to make a movie based on a video game, much like making a movie based on a book.  The Lord of the Rings series cut out HUGE chunks of the books.  It's understandable.  How are you going to collapse 600 pages of text into a two hour movie?  It's the same with video games.  Condensing 6-8 hours of gameplay into 1.5-2 hours of a movie is hard.  I think people would mind it less if it was canon, instead of &amp;quot;it's another universe so we can do whatever the hell we want.&amp;quot;  Degeneration was canon.  This is probably the reason that the game fans don't like the movie.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I found the Anderson movies to be just that, ''decent''. They weren't perfect, but they sure as hell &amp;quot;respect the source material&amp;quot; a lot more than even ''Capcom'' does these days. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 04:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You seriously believe that Anderson is respecting the source material of Resident Evil better than Capcom? I mean the first 2 movies are ok, but once he started to do the end of the world, Road Warrior look in the 3rd movie. Then with clones of Alice and now he's just ripping off character concepts from RE5... [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:22, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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They might as well be. They wasted over six years' worth of material in ten seconds with RE4 (seriously, what the hell), and ended the entire series' plot arcs in two (with RE5). &lt;br /&gt;
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The problem I have with the movies (even Degeneration) is that they pull all of these BS &amp;quot;character development&amp;quot;; it's PLOT development. The characters aren't even character in their own right anymore, they're just mouths to say cute little quips and trigger fingers to shoot guns with. &lt;br /&gt;
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I can clearly see from the stills alice has the revolvers under her arms anf the dual sawn offs on her back. So why does it say she holsters them under her arms. Look at the pics! --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did you notice that Alice loaded her shotgun shell with quarters, that was pretty awesome, if it's even possible-[[User:Big guns 100|Big guns 100]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Alice is really packing some heavy hardware in this movie.--[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]  24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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She is, but why did she switch from her high capacity 45's and pump action shotgun from ''Extinction'' to 5-shot revolvers and double barrel shotguns? I know the heavy revolver rounds were great against the mutated undead, and that the coin-loaded shotgun shells might not have worked as well in a pump action, and I can understand how she might have lost them sometime between the assault on the Umbrella facility and her flight to Arcadia, but still, it seems like a step back considering the endless hordes of the undead that she faces.--[[User:Calgunkid|Calgunkid]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ever since Modern Warfare 2 came out, I think the makers of this movie are playing on the akimbo feature. I mean: akimbo twin-barrels, akimbo revolvers, what more is there? Anybody agree, or see anything?&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't she dual wielded almost everything she's fired since the second movie? --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 04:00, 12 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree she dual wielded her MP5Ks and her Para-Ordnance P-14s. And in the third film she dual wielded her Para Ordinance PXT LDA Light Rails. [[User:AceV|AceV]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Not everything is an MW2 ripoff. Even if that's where you got all your gun knowledge from. And sign your posts. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 06:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i would like to add something. I know my guns but i do like how mw2 teaches people about them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Except Modern Warfare 2 is WRONG. About TONS of stuff.-protoAuthor 00:10, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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take the fucking winchester out your ass and stop causing trouble.    [[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Shooting guns akimbo has always been in media. I mean, watch any good cowboy movie or John Woo movie. John Woo's movie has perfected the art of double guns in movies [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:56, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Shooting guns akimbo is about as old as guns themselves are. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gotta love how people saying akimbo guns must be based on Modern Warfare, despite the fact that people wielding guns akimbo has been around in movies and television since the 1930's. Hell, I recently saw a Western themed episode of the THREE STOOGES where their cowboy friend pulls 2 pistols at once. Seriously people, just cause MW has something doesn't mean everything else that has that same thing is based on it, ESPECIALLY when said thing has been around much longer than MW. I'll also note MW wasn't the first game to feature it either, Rise of the Triad had it, Blood had it...and these are games that are too old to even run on my current PC. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Those other games aren't as mainstream thats why. The newer Goldeneye you could dual wield most guns. Most of these people don't understand that MW2 got dual wielding for somewhere else. Unless IW has a timemachine and went back in time and influenced others like John Woo about dual wielding.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Certainly not as mainstream as Halo 2... (note: that was sarcasm) or its ancestor, Marathon, which along with Rise of the Triad were the first game to feature akimbo guns. (They have the same release date.) Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K.² featured the option to wield two non-matching guns at once. Of course, Marathon came out in 1994 - A Better Tomorrow and its iconic portrayal of Chow Yun Fat wielding pistols akimbo in a John Woo movie came out 1986, which would only be around 23 years before Modern Warfare came out. There have been probably '''hundreds''' of video games and movies where a character is depicted as using two firearms at once. From my desk, if I look at my video game collection, I can see ten or fifteen from here. Never mind if I turn and look at my movie shelves. But Google &amp;quot;dual wielding in video games&amp;quot; and most of the hits will be about Modern Warfare 2. Why? Because if the hype about dual-wielding in MW2 is any indication, video gamers have a memory lasting no more than 3 years. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 13:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well gamers who are under 15 years old, which are most of the players. Us &amp;quot;older&amp;quot; guys remember way back then [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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First game I remember dual wielding is Goldeneye for the PS2, a few years before even Call of duty 3.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 22:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Heh, first one I remember is Rise of the Triad, back in '95. You could dual wield pistols, which had unlimited ammo to boot. Absurd, but fun. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 20:36, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:First game I remember dual wielding in is [[Dino Crisis 2]], with Regina and her two MP5KNs. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Original Timesplitters for me. DOUBLE MINIGUNS!!!1 [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 11:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My question is ow long has it been called akimbo? Absolutely evey single time I've ever seen two guns being used by one person at the same time I've always refered to it or heard it refered to as either dual-wielding or simply &amp;quot;shooting two guns&amp;quot;, up until MW2 started calling it Akimbo. I thought it was just trying to be original or artsy or whatever, as its actual definition has absolutely nothing to do with holding two guns or even holding anything, but people on here are calling it Akimbo too, so have I just happened to have never heard it called that before or has MW2 corrupted this place too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::For any thirteen-year-old COD fanboys who might think that the term &amp;quot;Guns Akimbo&amp;quot; comes exclusively from Modern Warfare 2, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_wield#Etymology please learn how to use the internet.]--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 21:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The first Left 4 Dead if you went through a Campaign using just two pistols you complete the achievement, Akimbo Assassin.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
And look the guy who claims to know guns tells him to get the Winchester out of a guy's ass in MW2 there's the Winchester Model 1887.  Akimbo would be having 2 uneven guns at once any way like an assault rifle and a pistol.  Not 2 of the same gun that's dual wielding.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the success of Action Quake 2, from 1998 the word akimbo was adopted into computer gaming in reference to the dual wielding of two weapons. It was mentioned prior to 1998 in the game Blood, as a power-up called the &amp;quot;Guns Akimbo&amp;quot;. For example, in a first person shooter game, the player might choose a &amp;quot;pistols akimbo&amp;quot; option to wield one gun in each hand. In Far Cry Instincts when a player is dual-wielding weapons it is called Akimbo, and in Left 4 Dead there is an achievement for playing a campaign with only pistols, called Akimbo Assassin, and in Counter Strike:Source there is an achievement;Akimbo King. Enemy Territory: Quake Wars features an experience reward called Akimbo Pistols, which are the only dual wield weapons in the game. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 features dual-wielding pistols and other one handed weapons, with the Akimbo attachment, found on Submachine Guns, Handguns, Machine Pistols and certain shotguns.&lt;br /&gt;
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Further more the term akimbo applies to use of a firearm in each hand irrespective of similarity, meaning the same as dual weilding, neither term specifically applies to the weapon content in each hand matching or differing --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 09:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Since our friend Al did the guns, he can confirm the weapons 100%==&lt;br /&gt;
Al Vrkljan, friend and fellow IMFDB member was the armorer for this movie.  If anyone could, he can confirm exactly what guns were used in this film. :)  Great work Al! :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
When can we expect pictures and IDs of the weapons from him? Any idea?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Albert Wesker is the funniest character in cinematic history, He is undoubtably king of the douchebags. My mate describes him as 'Your dad doing an impression of Agent Smith'. Ok now I have that out the way this movie was all over the shop. A few nice bits and bobs but mostly crap. Better than the first one tho. Kim Coates' (Bennett) definatly uses a Walther pp/ppk/ppks ( I can never tell the difference.) Angel Ortiz (the hispanic looking merc) was armed with a H&amp;amp;K rifle, Id say a G3 but i cant remeber too well. The Smith revolvers manage to dish out around 10 rounds each without reloading, the shotguns about 4 and the MP5K fires on full auto for about a full minuit, Good old hollywood magazines eh? Anyone else notice that for some reason you no longer need headshots to kill a zombie? Im just rambling now, but Wentworth Miller was quite good as chris and showed proficient gun handling and trigger disciplin and the final showdown might as well just be a Beretta advert --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:40, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Aww man, your friend's comment is freakin awesome. When I saw the trailer my first thought was &amp;quot;Wow, this guy looks like like he's trying to be Agent Smith, but...douche-ier&amp;quot;. And yeah, I noticed zombies getting killed by body shots as far back as the second movie(I...don't honestly remember much about the first, so I dunno if a headshot was required there or not). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 03:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It would be more Agent Smith ripping him off.  He's been like that throughout the game series which came out before the Matrix.&lt;br /&gt;
:He didn't get super powers(which I'm pretty sure, includes flipping over bullets) until Code Veronica in 2000. Matrix came out in '99. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But Agent Smith wasn't a complete Joke, seriously, the guys wearing sunglasses in an underground command center. I've never laughed so much at what was mean to be a serious role. Plus he cant shoot for shit. The alice clones are rappelling in a straight line straight towards him and he cant hit them? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 09:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If what you say is true, the movie completely misinterpreted Wesker. D: The sunglasses, at first, were just meant to set him apart from everyone else, as he was the only character in the games with sunglasses. Then when he got his powers they served to cover up his red eyes. And in the games he's pretty much a dead-eye, which is kind of a bitch during the boss fights with him. Leave it to the Resi movies to ruin one of the series' best characters... --[[User:K|K]] 18:02, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tho I never really played beyond resi 2, game wesker did come across as fairly cool and villain-y. But the movie version is just a joke, you can have a no-prize if you can watch his performace without just laughing at him. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 21:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone who can name these weapons would be a great help. Thanks :P&lt;br /&gt;
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HK MP5A3 9x19mm,&lt;br /&gt;
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Glock 17 or 19 9x19mm,&lt;br /&gt;
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HK G3A3 7.62x51mm,&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Another one? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I still can't believe they are making another RE movie. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Unfortunately Excalibur, I'm with the others on this one.  Just don't watch it and stop complaining about it ;) LOL [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I can't wait for this movie. :) [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I for one LOVE these movies. When I heard there is another one I was like &amp;quot;YES, please! Gimme gimme gimme.&amp;quot; [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 22:04, 11 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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The only problem I have with the franchise is that the endings are confusing to me. Maybe I'm just not paying close enough attention, but the end of the 2nd film lost me; when they run from the helicopter crash yet return in Umbrella Gear and pick Alice up. Can anyone explain? Anyway, I am looking forward to this film. LASTMANSTANDING&lt;br /&gt;
*I wonder why they are still making more of these despite those negative reviews and ratings. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Becasue they are still making a handsome profit at the boxoffice and video rentals. Who cares about the critics? --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it me or are some elements from this based on Akira, Example: Alice has telekentic powers, it's in some far east country, Lots of Soldiers attack yet are killed, Wesker has a Desert Eagle-[[User:Big guns 100|Big guns 100]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Macedonian Shooting==&lt;br /&gt;
it is just me or dose it look like Wesker is using the Russian shooting style called  Macedonian Shooting?&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's just dual wielding or Akimbo. There's nothing tactical about it. And if only the Russians invent a style for double guns, then it shows you how good it is if the Russians are using it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:28, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A simple google search of Macedonian Shooting turns up that it was supposedly utilized by NKVD officers who were equipped with two double action revolvers, and was more a method of forcing an enemy to cover than trying to accurately land shots on target. Also Ed McGivern talked about dual wielding in his Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting Book, something about teaching some techniques for it to Law Enforcement Officers of the 1920's or some such, so let's cut the nationalistic horseshit. This isn't the Cold War, you don't gotta kill a Commie for Mommy or whatever. Grow up. --[[User:Toadvine|Toadvine]] 10:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No you should grow up Toadvine.  Don't know where THAT tirade came from.  But the Russians currently do a lot of things which western weapons and fighting disciplines look askance at.  The 'spider/hand' style of patrolling, the acrobatic Spetznas training, etc.  Face it.  The Russians do weird things.  Or things that seem weird to us.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay, seriously, does anyone actually know if the Spetznaz are trained to do the whole 'Backflipping off a springboard while throwing a tomahawk' shit? Because I've never been sure if that was fact or fiction. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 04:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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acora, I don’t think they train to actually use some of their techniques as an actual combat method I think they use them purely to develop the sense in their troops that they are superior to normal soldiers because they can do such cool looking stuff. also I think there’s a fairly cunning amount of psyops going on. &amp;quot;don’t screw with spetznas they are like crazy ninjas&amp;quot; wouldn’t necessarily effect well disciplined troops but it should put the fear of god into the average grunt from around the world. they certainly do have some crazy demostration stuff that they do for open days and base shows. Fenris357 1255hrs 26 july 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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Well just because they do something weird, doesn't mean that it's weird, it might be weird to us but to them its perfectly normal. I'm sure to them some of our training is weird to them. But imagine if the U.S. and Russia made an elite fighting force, no one would fuck with them. [[User:DRC92|DRC92]]&lt;br /&gt;
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has anyone noticed that Alice's double barreled shotguns have black grips of the first photo?&lt;br /&gt;
:Rubber. I think she's gonna smack someone with it or just drop them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Alice seems to always dual wield every weapon she has. The shotguns and 629's in this film, P-14's and kukris in Extinction, batons, MP5K's and P-14's in Apocalypse. Next thing she probably carries dual M4's, or even M60's. --[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 13:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC) She was using P-18's in Extinction.&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope we get to see Weskers custom Beretta.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seems he is wielding dual Desert Eagles. So tell me as somebody that has not have the movies ruine the game (since i've never played them), what does Weskers custom Beretta look like? Anybody got any pics [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 21:56, 11 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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Just look at the RE5 page.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 22:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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After googling it I have to ask: &amp;quot;Am I missing something?&amp;quot;. It's just a Beretta 92 with a full dust cover with a rail.  [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 07:45 13 April 2010 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You definitely are missing something. It has a bevertail tang (something that no production 92F has), a tactical rail, extended magazine catch, skeletal hammer, plus the multitude of features found on the other Samurai Edge customs (extended slide-stop, custom multi-layered grips, brigadier slide).--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:53, 14 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Fair enough but nothing I cannot do with my Beretta 92 except for the bevertail. I haven't seen that option to buy somewhere. But I did miss something cause the images I got definately didn't show all of those features. Thanks for the info. :) Does somebody have an image to stick here. :) :)  [[User:Potentpoefie|Potentpoefie]] 11:38, 16 April 2010 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Like I said, a 92F beavertail was never put into production, so that means that such a frame would have to be custom crafted. Plus all of the other features together would be well over $1,000 for someone to replicate. And there's no reason to put an image of it here; just go to the RE5 page on this site. All of the customizations can be easily seen there.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 16:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Personally, I prefer the standard model. Don't really need all that, when it's already a pretty damn nice-looking gun. [[User:Anti-Umbrella Activist|Anti-Umbrella Activist]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sunglasses reflection ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You know your absolutely right...IMDB is never wrong...EVER.  Lets just forget the fact that they had Kacey listed as Jill Valentine for over a month.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see anyone commenting on my proof that is is Claire that I posted below.  Everyone decide to shut up now that you've been proven wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's not a terribly mature response. And start signing your posts.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 21:38, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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and if you noticed under i did comment that you were right &amp;quot;NICELY DONE&amp;quot; but you remained a dick, i agree entirely with pistol junkie you are immature you are most probably oblivious of that fact.--[[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:You're not helping things by responding like that, either.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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its my arguement stop butting in im allowed to respond in any way i can and want    --[[User:moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:If that's your belief, you may want to review the site's [[Rules, Standards and Principles]], specifically Principles.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 09:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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anyway you are argueing too if you haven't noticed so you look at the rules too before you start telling others to stop what your doing   --[[User:moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not referring to arguing or debating. I'm referring to hostile, profane insults towards other users. It would seem you did not bother to read the page that I linked to.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 12:31, 18 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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calling somebody immature is still an insult nonetheless. the rules apply to everyone even you. [[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well [[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]].  Looks like you got the last laugh.  [[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]] was banned for being a dick and a mega douche. :)  Just commenting that's all.  :D  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wesker vs Chris, Claire and Alice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's called research people.  Read it and weep fools.&lt;br /&gt;
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::the movies have already ruined the back story of RE, now they got stuff from RE 5, so yeah, circle complete. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I don't see how the movies could have ruined the game plot considering both are entirely separate universes. That's like saying Prince of Persia (2008) ruined the plot of the Sands of Time Trilogy even though it had nothing to do with the Sands of Time plot. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Look, when you make a movie based on something, you expect it to at least respect the source material. The RE movies were only too busy doing cameo moments to the games. Nothing about the story makes sense compared the source it's based on. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Tell that to Uwe Boll --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 05:01, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's just it, these movies are '''based on''' the games, not '''identical to''' them. I don't get why people want video game movies to be word-for-word, scene-for-scene translations of the games themselves. I want to see something I haven't already seen, as I imagine a lot of other people do. I don't want to know what happened or who's going to live and die before the movie even starts filming. Or does playing the games mean I'm somehow not entitled to an original plotline? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's not that people want an exact replica of the games.  We just want something decent.  It's hard to make a movie based on a video game, much like making a movie based on a book.  The Lord of the Rings series cut out HUGE chunks of the books.  It's understandable.  How are you going to collapse 600 pages of text into a two hour movie?  It's the same with video games.  Condensing 6-8 hours of gameplay into 1.5-2 hours of a movie is hard.  I think people would mind it less if it was canon, instead of &amp;quot;it's another universe so we can do whatever the hell we want.&amp;quot;  Degeneration was canon.  This is probably the reason that the game fans don't like the movie.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I found the Anderson movies to be just that, ''decent''. They weren't perfect, but they sure as hell &amp;quot;respect the source material&amp;quot; a lot more than even ''Capcom'' does these days. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 04:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You seriously believe that Anderson is respecting the source material of Resident Evil better than Capcom? I mean the first 2 movies are ok, but once he started to do the end of the world, Road Warrior look in the 3rd movie. Then with clones of Alice and now he's just ripping off character concepts from RE5... [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:22, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem I have with the movies (even Degeneration) is that they pull all of these BS &amp;quot;character development&amp;quot;; it's PLOT development. The characters aren't even character in their own right anymore, they're just mouths to say cute little quips and trigger fingers to shoot guns with. &lt;br /&gt;
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I can clearly see from the stills alice has the revolvers under her arms anf the dual sawn offs on her back. So why does it say she holsters them under her arms. Look at the pics! --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did you notice that Alice loaded her shotgun shell with quarters, that was pretty awesome, if it's even possible-[[User:Big guns 100|Big guns 100]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Alice is really packing some heavy hardware in this movie.--[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]  24 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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She is, but why did she switch from her high capacity 45's and pump action shotgun from ''Extinction'' to 5-shot revolvers and double barrel shotguns? I know the heavy revolver rounds were great against the mutated undead, and that the coin-loaded shotgun shells might not have worked as well in a pump action, and I can understand how she might have lost them sometime between the assault on the Umbrella facility and her flight to Arcadia, but still, it seems like a step back considering the endless hordes of the undead that she faces.--[[User:Calgunkid|Calgunkid]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Akimbo ripoffs ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't she dual wielded almost everything she's fired since the second movie? --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 04:00, 12 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree she dual wielded her MP5Ks and her Para-Ordnance P-14s. And in the third film she dual wielded her Para Ordinance PXT LDA Light Rails. [[User:AceV|AceV]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Not everything is an MW2 ripoff. Even if that's where you got all your gun knowledge from. And sign your posts. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 06:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i would like to add something. I know my guns but i do like how mw2 teaches people about them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Except Modern Warfare 2 is WRONG. About TONS of stuff.-protoAuthor 00:10, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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take the fucking winchester out your ass and stop causing trouble.    [[user:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Shooting guns akimbo has always been in media. I mean, watch any good cowboy movie or John Woo movie. John Woo's movie has perfected the art of double guns in movies [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:56, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Shooting guns akimbo is about as old as guns themselves are. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gotta love how people saying akimbo guns must be based on Modern Warfare, despite the fact that people wielding guns akimbo has been around in movies and television since the 1930's. Hell, I recently saw a Western themed episode of the THREE STOOGES where their cowboy friend pulls 2 pistols at once. Seriously people, just cause MW has something doesn't mean everything else that has that same thing is based on it, ESPECIALLY when said thing has been around much longer than MW. I'll also note MW wasn't the first game to feature it either, Rise of the Triad had it, Blood had it...and these are games that are too old to even run on my current PC. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Those other games aren't as mainstream thats why. The newer Goldeneye you could dual wield most guns. Most of these people don't understand that MW2 got dual wielding for somewhere else. Unless IW has a timemachine and went back in time and influenced others like John Woo about dual wielding.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Certainly not as mainstream as Halo 2... (note: that was sarcasm) or its ancestor, Marathon, which along with Rise of the Triad were the first game to feature akimbo guns. (They have the same release date.) Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K.² featured the option to wield two non-matching guns at once. Of course, Marathon came out in 1994 - A Better Tomorrow and its iconic portrayal of Chow Yun Fat wielding pistols akimbo in a John Woo movie came out 1986, which would only be around 23 years before Modern Warfare came out. There have been probably '''hundreds''' of video games and movies where a character is depicted as using two firearms at once. From my desk, if I look at my video game collection, I can see ten or fifteen from here. Never mind if I turn and look at my movie shelves. But Google &amp;quot;dual wielding in video games&amp;quot; and most of the hits will be about Modern Warfare 2. Why? Because if the hype about dual-wielding in MW2 is any indication, video gamers have a memory lasting no more than 3 years. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 13:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well gamers who are under 15 years old, which are most of the players. Us &amp;quot;older&amp;quot; guys remember way back then [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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First game I remember dual wielding is Goldeneye for the PS2, a few years before even Call of duty 3.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 22:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Heh, first one I remember is Rise of the Triad, back in '95. You could dual wield pistols, which had unlimited ammo to boot. Absurd, but fun. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 20:36, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:First game I remember dual wielding in is [[Dino Crisis 2]], with Regina and her two MP5KNs. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Original Timesplitters for me. DOUBLE MINIGUNS!!!1 [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 11:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My question is ow long has it been called akimbo? Absolutely evey single time I've ever seen two guns being used by one person at the same time I've always refered to it or heard it refered to as either dual-wielding or simply &amp;quot;shooting two guns&amp;quot;, up until MW2 started calling it Akimbo. I thought it was just trying to be original or artsy or whatever, as its actual definition has absolutely nothing to do with holding two guns or even holding anything, but people on here are calling it Akimbo too, so have I just happened to have never heard it called that before or has MW2 corrupted this place too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::For any thirteen-year-old COD fanboys who might think that the term &amp;quot;Guns Akimbo&amp;quot; comes exclusively from Modern Warfare 2, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_wield#Etymology please learn how to use the internet.]--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 21:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The first Left 4 Dead if you went through a Campaign using just two pistols you complete the achievement, Akimbo Assassin.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
And look the guy who claims to know guns tells him to get the Winchester out of a guy's ass in MW2 there's the Winchester Model 1887.  Akimbo would be having 2 uneven guns at once any way like an assault rifle and a pistol.  Not 2 of the same gun that's dual wielding.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the success of Action Quake 2, from 1998 the word akimbo was adopted into computer gaming in reference to the dual wielding of two weapons. It was mentioned prior to 1998 in the game Blood, as a power-up called the &amp;quot;Guns Akimbo&amp;quot;. For example, in a first person shooter game, the player might choose a &amp;quot;pistols akimbo&amp;quot; option to wield one gun in each hand. In Far Cry Instincts when a player is dual-wielding weapons it is called Akimbo, and in Left 4 Dead there is an achievement for playing a campaign with only pistols, called Akimbo Assassin, and in Counter Strike:Source there is an achievement;Akimbo King. Enemy Territory: Quake Wars features an experience reward called Akimbo Pistols, which are the only dual wield weapons in the game. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 features dual-wielding pistols and other one handed weapons, with the Akimbo attachment, found on Submachine Guns, Handguns, Machine Pistols and certain shotguns.&lt;br /&gt;
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Further more the term akimbo applies to use of a firearm in each hand irrespective of similarity, meaning the same as dual weilding, neither term specifically applies to the weapon content in each hand matching or differing --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 09:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Since our friend Al did the guns, he can confirm the weapons 100%==&lt;br /&gt;
Al Vrkljan, friend and fellow IMFDB member was the armorer for this movie.  If anyone could, he can confirm exactly what guns were used in this film. :)  Great work Al! :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
When can we expect pictures and IDs of the weapons from him? Any idea?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Albert Wesker is the funniest character in cinematic history, He is undoubtably king of the douchebags. My mate describes him as 'Your dad doing an impression of Agent Smith'. Ok now I have that out the way this movie was all over the shop. A few nice bits and bobs but mostly crap. Better than the first one tho. Kim Coates' (Bennett) definatly uses a Walther pp/ppk/ppks ( I can never tell the difference.) Angel Ortiz (the hispanic looking merc) was armed with a H&amp;amp;K rifle, Id say a G3 but i cant remeber too well. The Smith revolvers manage to dish out around 10 rounds each without reloading, the shotguns about 4 and the MP5K fires on full auto for about a full minuit, Good old hollywood magazines eh? Anyone else notice that for some reason you no longer need headshots to kill a zombie? Im just rambling now, but Wentworth Miller was quite good as chris and showed proficient gun handling and trigger disciplin and the final showdown might as well just be a Beretta advert --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:40, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Aww man, your friend's comment is freakin awesome. When I saw the trailer my first thought was &amp;quot;Wow, this guy looks like like he's trying to be Agent Smith, but...douche-ier&amp;quot;. And yeah, I noticed zombies getting killed by body shots as far back as the second movie(I...don't honestly remember much about the first, so I dunno if a headshot was required there or not). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 03:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It would be more Agent Smith ripping him off.  He's been like that throughout the game series which came out before the Matrix.&lt;br /&gt;
:He didn't get super powers(which I'm pretty sure, includes flipping over bullets) until Code Veronica in 2000. Matrix came out in '99. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But Agent Smith wasn't a complete Joke, seriously, the guys wearing sunglasses in an underground command center. I've never laughed so much at what was mean to be a serious role. Plus he cant shoot for shit. The alice clones are rappelling in a straight line straight towards him and he cant hit them? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 09:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If what you say is true, the movie completely misinterpreted Wesker. D: The sunglasses, at first, were just meant to set him apart from everyone else, as he was the only character in the games with sunglasses. Then when he got his powers they served to cover up his red eyes. And in the games he's pretty much a dead-eye, which is kind of a bitch during the boss fights with him. Leave it to the Resi movies to ruin one of the series' best characters... --[[User:K|K]] 18:02, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tho I never really played beyond resi 2, game wesker did come across as fairly cool and villain-y. But the movie version is just a joke, you can have a no-prize if you can watch his performace without just laughing at him. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 21:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weapons Cache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone who can name these weapons would be a great help. Thanks :P&lt;br /&gt;
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HK MP5A3 9x19mm&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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== L85A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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:FiveTwoSeven is right on the money. Desert Eagles might beat 9mm if you're hunting rhinos or grizzly bears or something, but otherwise, they're a bulky, heavy, oversized gun firing unnecessarily big bullets. Hate to tell you man, but the real world doesn't work like Call of Duty, there's NO real world military or police force that carries the DE, while there are tons carrying 9mm pistols. And there's a reason for that. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)                                                &lt;br /&gt;
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The Desert Eagle may be over-powered, but the 9mm is definatly under-powered. You could hit an enemy 4-5 times and not take them out, but with the Desert Eagle you only need 1 shot. And please don't tell me your a &amp;quot;9mm all the way&amp;quot;, because there are more calibres that are better than the 9mm than there are worse, by far. (.41AE, 10mm Auto, 9x21mmIMI, and of course .45 ACP, plus all the magnums .357 and .44 are better by my books.)And no, i don't think the world works like COD4, because i have found more mistakes with the firearms than you could ever imagine. Ditto for MW2. I wish i had had a say in the making of the games, i would have changed a lot. sorry if i caused offence.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I take it that you come from video games and know little about real guns. 9mm is perfectly fine for anything related to personal defence. One very well known writer that also lives in my home state New Hampshire, Massod Ayoob, is a retired police officer. He is VERY experianced with guns and in fact &amp;quot;gunfighting&amp;quot; aswell. He has actually been in real gun fights. He writes alot about gun fights where someone had to draw their weapon. He is by definition a true expert on guns. He packs a 9mm daily. Would he if it took several rounds to do what one round of .45 could do? No he wouldn't. There has been one account of someone that was shot 4 times with a .45 and walked out of the hospital a few hours later and many other accounts where someone was shot once with a 9mm and was dead before he hit the ground. One gun high as a kite on meth was shot 6 times with a .41 magnum and kept fighting and took getting run over the the LEO's partner with the cruiser and he was still trying to fight even with the vehicle over him .41 AE is a near obsolete round, 9x21 is extremely uncommon, and 10mm is uncommon to a point. The desert eagle is NOT a fighting handgun, way to big and unwieldy. Also putting trust into a large round to stop someone kinda says that you don't trust your self to hit him somewhere vital and you hope that he drops dead. Getting hit once with a .50 AE doesn't garentee a one shot stop. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Everything the above guy said is dead on the money. And anyway Gunmaster, if the DE is so much better than a 9mm handgun, I'll reiterate-why do NO military or law enforcement agencies in the world carry them, yet many still carry 9mm weapons? Even units who have the freedom to choose their own sidearms do not carry Desert Eagles, why do you think that is? Sure, you can argue that 9mm isn't the best round in the world and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that a 9mm handgun is STILL better for combat use than a DE, unless your definition of &amp;quot;combat&amp;quot; includes shootouts with elephants or something. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 08:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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About the Desert Eagle not being in service anywhere, it's obvious the NATO countries would look to their own country's weapons before adopting an Israeli weapon, and after the Glock started getting used by &amp;quot;over 65% of the world's military and police forces&amp;quot; as they claim, Israel decided to as well. Anyway I respect your argument but I hope you can also respect mine --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isreal wasn't using the Desert Eagle BEFORE they adopted the Glock. People don't carry it because it's NOT A COMBAT HANDGUN. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 21:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing how you like the MK23 it definatly shows where you come from. If you were to hang around a non HK-biased gun board like TheHighRoad.org, you would know that its a huge over priced pistol. The Desert Eagle is FAR FROM A COMBAT PISTOL PERIOD. Not even the country that made it issues it. &amp;lt;-------- Read that. Judging by your weapon choices I see that you come from Rainbow 6 Vegas, not real life. Although FMJ 9mm isn't the best I know that but when you can have hollow points its perfectly fine. If I were to fight in a official Military force I would carry either a SIG Sauer P220, FNP 45 or I would still pack my 9mm Hi Power. The MK23 is one of the SOCOM issue weapons yet it is rarely carried, why you may ask? Because its do big and unwieldy. The Navy SEALs have choosen the 9mm P226 over a .40 or a .45 because its shot placement. By the time you lug your MK23 or Desert Eagle out of the holster I would have already draw and double tapped you with my Hi Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, let's get something straight. I DO NOT GET MY WEAPON KNOWLAGE OR PREFERENCES FROM VIDEO GAMES. I've never played rainbow 6. i will say this though, good on you for your choice of the SIG-Sauer, best quality gun brand i think. I'm not HK-biased, i just know that in a firefight between a 12 round .45 MK 23 and say as you said a 13 round 9mm Browning, the Mk 23 owner would have the edge. And about the SIG having better shot placement...you can get the P220 in .45, .357SIG, and .40 S&amp;amp;W...all of these would be better than the 9mm version except for capacity. And just one more thing.....have you ever fired a full size assault rifle in real life, not COD4? Just curious--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 18:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You know the people the Mk 23 was designed for don't use it, right? If it was such an awesome gun, why do even THEY not carry it? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 21:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Full size assault rifle? I didn't know there were small and mediun sizes. I haven't fired a full auto assault rifle yet but I've fired plenty of AR-15s and AK 47s a M1A, I even got a AR 15 of my own. The only full auto I've fired was a M60 when I was young. The SIG P220 only comes in .45 now, never was in .357 SIG or .40 S&amp;amp;W. Only 9mm, 7.62 parabellum, .38 super, and .45 ACP. How does a MK23 owner have the edge? The thing is too big and unwieldy, can't conceal carry it at all and would be slow to draw from a holster. Only has a larger round but only counts if you can actually shoot faster than your opponent. Another story I have is one cop had to draw and shoot someone drawing his gun, the cop fired and hit him with his .45 faster than the criminals 9mm yet the criminal still was able to complete the draw and shot and killed the cop then ran off and died later. Let me say again that the people this pistol is aimed at and issued by choice don't even like the MK23, the people that HAVE to use their weapons on a regular basis don't like it and they have experiance. Why do you want to carry it when you have no experiance? You obviously do get your preferances from video games because how else would you get your preferance of te MK23? Either that or you watch too many movies. What have you shot exactly and what do you own?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 18:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to back the little guy here, this isnt even about resident evil any more its just the pair of you dick measuring. I have no problem with 9mm but i love the Mk23, granted im a bigger guy and dont feel its 'too much gun' for me. I have no problems pulling and firing it at decent speed and accuracy, but remember its not about draw speed this isnt the wild west. Pistols are sidearms now, you wanna draw fast and double tap then take a colt SAA. If the kid prefers the Mk23 then dont just say its down to video games, the only game i know of where the MK23 is available is metal gear solid, and thats wank anyway. Personal preference is just that. Its down to the individual. Tho to remain un biased the desert eagle is in no way a combat pistol. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:31, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Mk 23 has been available in every Rainbow Six game since RS3(and maybe earlier, I forget), and a &amp;quot;high tech&amp;quot; version(where the laser pointer is also capable of shutting down lights and electronics at a distance) of the Mk 23 is Sam Fisher's sidearm in the Splinter Cell games. It's also been used in the SOCOM game series, which I suppose is an appropriate place for it. These are all pretty popular, big name shooter games. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Double tapping with a SAA, thats a new one. I'm 6'4 but theres a point when a gun is too big. Where else would someone get a preferance for a gun when he hasn't most likely held or fired one? Definatly not through reading up on a gun board about it where those experianced with fire arms reside. I have no problem with shooting a .45 but I prefer my 9mm because of how slim it is and the cost of ammo is much less. Theres a difference in preference and picking something with research, and without it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'll agree about preference, but remember it STARTED with him saying Carlos shoulda kept the Desert Eagles over a 9mm, with both FiveTwoSeven and myself disagreeing with him. It seems to me his bringing up other calibers(we didn't initiate that discussion) was him (successfully) trying to direct the conversation away from the original argument, that being the fact that the DE is not a combat handgun(which you agreed with as well), and would not and is not carried by any combat professional(which Carlos is supposed to be). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
If he owns a MK23 than he can do as he wants and I don't care. If hes just read about it, watched it in movies, or used it in a video game than his decision is stupid. I have used many different kinds of guns and have decided on a 9mm Hi Power. My decision was through experiance, not armchair-commandoing.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Because it's a great sidearm. Size and weight IS not a factor to me when it comes to superb practicality. As I mentioned before, it is very durable, reliable, accurate, and controllable (because of its recoil-reduction buffer which keeps the muzzle-flip down which means it stays on target better). I also forgot to mention that it's also corrosion-resistant and can take P+ armor-piercing rounds. Whats wrong with a pistol that can hit a Tango through the eye at 50 meters with a suppressor. Isn't it better for&lt;br /&gt;
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If FiveTwoSeven would think back to the beginning of the conversation you will see that I never actually SAID that the IMI Desert Eagle was a combat handgun. You keep saying &amp;quot;it's not a combat handgun, it's not a combat handgun&amp;quot; but honestly I don't know why the hell you believe that's what I think.O_o Beats me where you got that from. And about the MK23's weight, no-one else seems to be complaining. You obviously think that the 9mm is best, well, i'm not going to destroy your delusions, &lt;br /&gt;
it's your loss. In reference to a previous comment, by &amp;quot;full-size assault rifle&amp;quot; i mean not a &amp;quot;Short Assaut Rifle&amp;quot;, or SAR. Plenty of them exist. For example the Micro Galil, Colt Commando, and AK 74U. And yes, i have shot a full=size assault rifle. I'm in the Army Cadets and havefired the Steyr F88 AUG 5.56x45mm, both with blanks and live ammunition. And thank you to all the people on my side of the argument, good to see some people have the right idea.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 08:57, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that all the experiance you have with actually shooting guns? Thats not enough to claim something is better. Why do you think the MK 23 is so good when the professionals hate it? Even though I dislike H&amp;amp;K, I wouldn't care if you liked the USP 45. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wasn't specific to the Hi Power, it was more of 9mm vs. 45acp at that point. How is firing a short assault rifle different or give you less experiance than a full size? It turned into a argument like that because I was defending the 9mm, its delusional to think that its weak.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The 9mm is not weak in itself, just compared to the .45 Auto. Thats the reason i said that the MK23 is better than the Browning because it has greater power to capacity RATIO. Add the superb accuracy and i think that it it better. Firing a Short Assault Rifle doesn't give you more experience, nor was that my point. I didn't say that i had more experience than FiveTwoSeven because of that difference. I guess i just made that classification because the original conversation was about handguns.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 14:39, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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http://intrencik.com/357sig_files/Handgun_gel_comparison.jpg While .45acp is better to shoot someone with, it doesn't seem that much better. The biggest thing that gets me about this caliber war is the fact that alot of people believe that .45acp is the end all, instant-death-ray-gun. One thing that bothers me is your choice of gun. There are many other .45s that are better and hold more. The USP 45 holds the same but is more manageable with its smaller size. The Glock 21 holds 13 rounds of .45, the Springfield XD holds 13, and my favorite out of the high cap .45s, the FNH FNP 45. Holds 14 rounds of .45acp. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 15:20, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Better? For accuracy? Not even close. Those pistols that hold more, we're talking 1-2 rounds difference. It doesn't make them better.You put one in the chamber plusa full mag that's 13rds. And again it's personal preference. I happen to like the look of the MK23 better than others. No, I don't think that the .45ACP is a &amp;quot;end all, instant-death-ray-gun&amp;quot; But if you have two guys, and one gets hit by 9mm, the other gets hit with a .45, both at the same distance, same barrel length, same rifling, hell, same weapon frame, there is MORE chance that the .45 will take him out first shot. --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks &amp;lt; Function. There are many people that own SIGs or any other good looking pistol yet carry a Glock. I personally find the MK23 ugly because of its large trigger guard. Plus it depends on who the better shot is more than capacity, gun, or cartridge. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:04, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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My take on the issue: it more personal preference than anything. Sure, the .45 may be slightly more powerful than the 9, but there is not a man alive who wants to be shot with either of them. 99% of it is determined by how well the shot is placed, and the skill of the shooter. A hit to the heart by either of them is effective. But, there is no handgun on Earth you can absolutely gaurantee will kill someone with one shot. I am a fan of a .45, but in skilled hands, either one is lethal. -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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While I agree with FIVETWOSEVEN for the most part about the 9mm and all. I mean hell, my home defense gun is a Browning BDA380 even though I was ever so close to convincing my dad to get the tu-tone Glock 17 when it was on sale. Anyway, I will have to agree with Gunmaster12 that Carlos should have kept the DEs. Don't forget, these guys aren't fighting people who are shooting back but fighting zombies and everybody knows the best way to kill zombies is the shoot them in the head and with his DEs firing a massive .44 magnum, it should probably give Carlos at better chance and blowing off the head than with a 9mm. Just my 2 cents. --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 00:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there, PotShot. The 9mm will normally be easier to control than the .44 magnum. Therefore, 9mms will allow him to have faster follow-up shots and more accurate fire. While I've never fired a Desert Eagle .44, I've shot enough 9mm to know that it's powerful enough to pierce the skull, yet recoil is soft enough for accurate fire. Also, 9mm is more common, allowing you to have more available in something like that. BTW, I'm a member of the zombie-survival forum the ZSDW. Look me up on there. -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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:Now that I think about it, that does make more sense. I've never fired or even held a DE before(almost nobody sells them in my area) so I have no idea how heavy it is. This brings up another question, if LJ still had a DE and ammo, did Carlos simply lose his desert eagles or what as he and LJ could have pooled the ammo since their DEs are the same caliber.--[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 02:05, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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.44 ammo is bulky, plain and simple. Meaning its heavier, and you can haul around less of it. The capacity is also a issue, which is ultimatly why I'm not a huge fan of any DE. It's heavy, has a decent kick, the ammo is heavy, and it barely holds any rounds. While a person with a DE might leave a bigger hole, the person with the 9mm will still be shooting when the other person has to reload. And if by some miracle you can hit their brain every shot, the round doesn't matter. You need to hit their brain, not blow their head off. Meaning overall: 8 tries, or 15? Your choice. Don't get me wrong, if you feel safe with the .44 and are used to it, by all means, use it. It's just not the almighty gift from Gun Jeebus.&lt;br /&gt;
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I gotta jump back in here, I hate anything dual weilding desert eagles. I know res e is hardly realism at its pinnacle but that was just a lil too stupid, the USP's are the smarter choice and this is from a guy who does love the mk23, chunky trigger guard n all. But since we still ae on zombies and 45 auto if you wanna see this done right watch dawn of the dead (the remake). Most of you probably have to be fair, but for the final showdown most of the survivors pack glock 21's (even tho they only have the post ban 10 round mags). Probably the smartest choice for the occasion, nice chuncky 45 round, half decent mag cap, light durable and easy to use, glocks might not win any beauty pagents but damn they make for a good peice - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Respect to Cap'n Snikt, but you don't have to diss a weapon just because of it's TRIGGER GUARD. wtf that's not much of an issue on any weapon's accuracy or stopping power--[[Special:Contributions/58.171.63.73|58.171.63.73]] 13:04, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I like how that guy's name is &amp;quot;Gunmaster,&amp;quot; but he doesnt know that much about guns, or from what I've heard, anything.  The Desert Eagle is just as bad as any one of these smart guys will say. I know from personal experience that the 9x19mm is a fine round, I personally don't trust it for my home defense, for that I have the pistol that has never failed me, my 1911.  Like many people have said, its not so much caliber, as shot placement.  This is very true.  Look at the AR-15 compared to an AK47, AR has a smaller round (by far)but is much more accurate.  That right there is the key.  Your firearm must be accurate, but so must you be.  Just because you have a .50 Caliber Action Express, doesn't mean you're ready to start WWIII.  Of course I still prefer the .45 ACP, but if you're good, a 9x19mm will do the trick... thats my 2 cents anyway --[[PunisherDave]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats how I see it when it comes to 9mm vs. .45acp, personal preference, but its always helpful to have good arguments to back it up.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 02:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not own or have fired any guns, but i have a little opinion about this matter. The fact that carlos changed to USP´s isn´t bad. The bad thing is that the guns appear to be compact ones. Giving a shorter barell and worse accuracy. I personally think that the .357 Desert Eagle is a decent gun. A relatively big pistol caliber, not so bad capacity (9) and as far as I know, good stopping power. Not to be used in military, or in any regular combat situation. But when it comes to Resident Evil world, I´d rather prefer dual AA12´s to be shure I killed those things. This movies aren´t about the most reasonable gun to have. This is for the most overkilling badass scenario possible. I mean, if it wouln´t be so expensive, they´d had used samurai edges as their sidearms.&lt;br /&gt;
But I think Alice´s pistols were a good choice.Thanks for your time reading my opinion ;)-thebarry1394&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm pretty sure that those are standard USPs, they probably look like compacts from the angle of the shot when the screenshot was taken. Dual AA-12's? I don't think that is such a great idea, if you really want to make sure they are dead (even though they are already dead), I would just shoot it again. Isn't Zombieland's rule #4 doubletap? --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 02:33, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: How about finding a minigun and holdw down the trigger while sweeping it left and right over and over again? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:53, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dual AA12s? Great, the MW2 kids found this site. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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FiveTwoSeven, I respect your argument but I still hold my place. The MK23 is a good gun, .45ACP is a good calibre, the Desert Eagle isn't a combat handgun (nor did I ever say it was) but for the requirements of the movie, (which will be watched by more people who know nothing about guns than those who do), I think that Carlos should have kept the Desert Eagles in Extinction. Not because the weapon is a better choice in real life, but because they have more of a cinematic presence  than the HK USP Compact. When people see him blasting away at zombies in Vegas with USPs, they think &amp;quot;meh&amp;quot;. But when they see him rappeling from a helicopter shooting the big, loud, scary Deagles, they think &amp;quot;Wow!&amp;quot;--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And I've got to agree with FiveTwoSeven. Dual AA-12s? you would either have to hold them on different levels or set the up for left/right hand operation to stop the shells from ejecting from one gun, ricocheting off the other and hitting you in the face. Its not so much of a problem with handguns, but with any rifles/shotguns it would be a big problem. Apart from all those potential problems, the aiming would suffer REALLY badly, even with the spread shotguns have. You would chew through ammo like crazy too.(Ditto for minigun) sorry, but you probably couldn't get much worse than that in real life, but it would look good in a movie, as the Desert Eagle does. &lt;br /&gt;
To the Barry1394: &amp;quot;the most overkilling badass senario possible&amp;quot; my point exacty. People who watch the movie want thrills. 9mm USPs don't have anything &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; with them but Desert Eagles are &amp;quot;badass&amp;quot; and  have good looks, and noise.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To FiveTwoSeven: Respect man. You came up with some excellent points during the debate. Good on ya. Gunmaster12 signing out--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Good point, GM. The directors chose them because people think they look cool. Similar to Alice's dual EVERYTHING in RE Apocalypse (and, from the looks of it, Afterlife.) -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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The way movies go, big guns = entertainment so I would agree.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:40, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree, the USP9s make more sense in real life, but Desert Eagles work better for Cinema. ;) Their aren't many Action movies out their that the Desert Eagle doesn't at lest appear in. As for Carlos not having his Desert Eagles this movie. Remember at end of Apocalypse, when they were all captured. They had all they're weapons taken away, when they got free, LJ probably grabbed one of his Desert Eagles. That probably explains why in this movie LJ only has one Desert Eagle and and why Carlos now uses the USP9s. by the Skinny White Guy again. ;)&lt;br /&gt;
:Where does this &amp;quot;DEs work better for cinema&amp;quot; stuff come from? Am I the only guy who doesn't just automatically associate &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;cool&amp;quot; when I watch movies? I mean shit, personally, I'd rather watch my action heroes wielding a USP or a Sig or M1911 than watch them look like douches with overly big guns trying to compensate for, ahem, smaller guns elsewhere(so deservingly mocked in Shoot Em Up I might add). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 18:11, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree with you, we  ment that the &amp;quot;masses&amp;quot; like the big guns in movies. Personally I like the Desert Eagle but I whould rather use other pistols for fighting like USPs, 1911s, SIGs, or Glocks. ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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I ment LJ's DE, I said LJ probably grabbed one of HIS Desert Eagles. -_- sorry, I guess I worded it badly. Carlos probably did not grab his DEs, that's he does not have them in Extinction.&lt;br /&gt;
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*DKS01: I would too. That's one reason why I liked both Dawn of the Deads; the guns used were actual things people could come across, not &amp;quot;movie guns.&amp;quot; However, the general public thinks differently. They want the biggest, most powerful weapons they can find. Case in point, the AA12. -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally do prefer seeing guns that make sense but the general public is much different. Why do you think Collateral is one of my favorite movies yet wasn't that popular? Most of the people nowadays aren't to bright in my observations so big = good to them.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree 100%, 527. What are some other movies that actually use realistic guns? I already mentioned DOTD-SasquatchJim.&lt;br /&gt;
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I too agree, and Collateral is one of my favorite movies too. ^_^ the SkinnyWhiteGuy&lt;br /&gt;
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I don´t want to start a blog discussion here (but since we all did...) but why when someone talks about dual wielding guns that person must have taken that idea from Call of Duty Modern Warefare 2?&lt;br /&gt;
I mean, good game (as far as I know, because I haven´t played it), but it hasn´t invented the dual thing. I think it became famous with John Woo films (I don´t know if I wrote his namme correctly). Why do you FIVETWOSEVEN think Im a kid, and I am a MW2 fan. Dude, you are triying to degradate every person that has a different point of view. Correct me if Im wrong, but that´s what I can see.&lt;br /&gt;
PD: I know Im not so good writing in english, but, c´mon, the only thing you could understood was &amp;quot;dual wielding AA12´s&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
Well, at least, I could give my opinion again. And triying to end this discussion, it´s a fictional movie, there are zombies, and monster, and super powers, and you care about the gun choise?-Thebarry1394&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why is because that sounds like something a MW2 obssesed person would say. Its retarded to dual wield shotguns like a AA 12 because of how big they are. I am not trying to insult people for their choices unless its a bad choice. It was the combination of AA12 and dual wielding that just screams MW2 nerd.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:36, 20 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Haha, the aa12 was the first powerfull auto gun that came across my mind that time. Nevermind. And as a principle, I don´t take gun preferences from video games. That´s just stupid and unethical to post in such a proffesional comunity (I mean, the page´s contributors have taken the imfdb job really serious, to me its an insult to take game preferences in here)&lt;br /&gt;
[and i tought about the aa12 becouse of the frag 12 (saw that in future weapons) because it would help to kill most of the RE monsters ;)]Thanks for your comments and respect to all the other contributors (the 9mm tactical facts will help me in a novel I´m writting)-thebarry1394&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to be fair, on the dicussion page for Resident Evil Afterlife, there WAS a guy who thought MW2 basically created dual-weilding. That's something we had in our minds. I see what you mean, though, Barry. You weren't trying to make a point specifically for dual AA12s.-SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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@FiveTwoSeven: Glad to see you see my point. Thats the main reason I said Carlos should have kept the Deagles, the calibre thing was a side-point.So no hard feelings. (I kind of feel sorry for Oded Fehr, I would love to see the look on his face if he saw this debate) hahaha :P--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
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::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:( --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only when your out of 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:FiveTwoSeven is right on the money. Desert Eagles might beat 9mm if you're hunting rhinos or grizzly bears or something, but otherwise, they're a bulky, heavy, oversized gun firing unnecessarily big bullets. Hate to tell you man, but the real world doesn't work like Call of Duty, there's NO real world military or police force that carries the DE, while there are tons carrying 9mm pistols. And there's a reason for that. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)                                                &lt;br /&gt;
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The Desert Eagle may be over-powered, but the 9mm is definatly under-powered. You could hit an enemy 4-5 times and not take them out, but with the Desert Eagle you only need 1 shot. And please don't tell me your a &amp;quot;9mm all the way&amp;quot;, because there are more calibres that are better than the 9mm than there are worse, by far. (.41AE, 10mm Auto, 9x21mmIMI, and of course .45 ACP, plus all the magnums .357 and .44 are better by my books.)And no, i don't think the world works like COD4, because i have found more mistakes with the firearms than you could ever imagine. Ditto for MW2. I wish i had had a say in the making of the games, i would have changed a lot. sorry if i caused offence.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I take it that you come from video games and know little about real guns. 9mm is perfectly fine for anything related to personal defence. One very well known writer that also lives in my home state New Hampshire, Massod Ayoob, is a retired police officer. He is VERY experianced with guns and in fact &amp;quot;gunfighting&amp;quot; aswell. He has actually been in real gun fights. He writes alot about gun fights where someone had to draw their weapon. He is by definition a true expert on guns. He packs a 9mm daily. Would he if it took several rounds to do what one round of .45 could do? No he wouldn't. There has been one account of someone that was shot 4 times with a .45 and walked out of the hospital a few hours later and many other accounts where someone was shot once with a 9mm and was dead before he hit the ground. One gun high as a kite on meth was shot 6 times with a .41 magnum and kept fighting and took getting run over the the LEO's partner with the cruiser and he was still trying to fight even with the vehicle over him .41 AE is a near obsolete round, 9x21 is extremely uncommon, and 10mm is uncommon to a point. The desert eagle is NOT a fighting handgun, way to big and unwieldy. Also putting trust into a large round to stop someone kinda says that you don't trust your self to hit him somewhere vital and you hope that he drops dead. Getting hit once with a .50 AE doesn't garentee a one shot stop. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Everything the above guy said is dead on the money. And anyway Gunmaster, if the DE is so much better than a 9mm handgun, I'll reiterate-why do NO military or law enforcement agencies in the world carry them, yet many still carry 9mm weapons? Even units who have the freedom to choose their own sidearms do not carry Desert Eagles, why do you think that is? Sure, you can argue that 9mm isn't the best round in the world and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that a 9mm handgun is STILL better for combat use than a DE, unless your definition of &amp;quot;combat&amp;quot; includes shootouts with elephants or something. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 08:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But as a military calibre, things such as capacity may be an issue. Take the Colt M1911 .45 ACP (11.43x23mm) pistol. The .45 round is the optimal military calibre in terms of power, but that particular weapon takes only 7 rounds. Most weapons in that calibre can't take high amounts of ammunition, and at the time of the XM9 handgun trials Beretta and SIG-Sauer took the spotlight, ruining the chances of weapons like the Spanish Star &amp;quot;Megastar&amp;quot; .45ACP, and the HK MK 23 MOD 0 SOCOM .45ACP. Those ones can take 12 rounds of ammunition. And my definition of combat includes circumstances that can never be forseen. Thus you must always be prepared. If I was put on the battlefield with one handgun of my choice it would definatly and without a doubt be a Hecklar &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23 Model 0 .45.Comparativly puny Glock 17s, Berreta M92-SB-Fs, and USP-9s wouldn't come close. But don't get me wrong, 9mms have their time and place. It can sometimes come down to personal preference; mine just doesn't run to the 9mm Parabellum round. One more thing, my views on the 9mm are much different when your talking sub-machine guns. I would never diss the HK MP5, it's variants, the IMI Uzi, it's variants, and definatly not the Steyr AUG Para SMG.&lt;br /&gt;
About the Desert Eagle not being in service anywhere, it's obvious the NATO countries would look to their own country's weapons before adopting an Israeli weapon, and after the Glock started getting used by &amp;quot;over 65% of the world's military and police forces&amp;quot; as they claim, Israel decided to as well. Anyway I respect your argument but I hope you can also respect mine --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isreal wasn't using the Desert Eagle BEFORE they adopted the Glock. People don't carry it because it's NOT A COMBAT HANDGUN. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 21:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing how you like the MK23 it definatly shows where you come from. If you were to hang around a non HK-biased gun board like TheHighRoad.org, you would know that its a huge over priced pistol. The Desert Eagle is FAR FROM A COMBAT PISTOL PERIOD. Not even the country that made it issues it. &amp;lt;-------- Read that. Judging by your weapon choices I see that you come from Rainbow 6 Vegas, not real life. Although FMJ 9mm isn't the best I know that but when you can have hollow points its perfectly fine. If I were to fight in a official Military force I would carry either a SIG Sauer P220, FNP 45 or I would still pack my 9mm Hi Power. The MK23 is one of the SOCOM issue weapons yet it is rarely carried, why you may ask? Because its do big and unwieldy. The Navy SEALs have choosen the 9mm P226 over a .40 or a .45 because its shot placement. By the time you lug your MK23 or Desert Eagle out of the holster I would have already draw and double tapped you with my Hi Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, let's get something straight. I DO NOT GET MY WEAPON KNOWLAGE OR PREFERENCES FROM VIDEO GAMES. I've never played rainbow 6. i will say this though, good on you for your choice of the SIG-Sauer, best quality gun brand i think. I'm not HK-biased, i just know that in a firefight between a 12 round .45 MK 23 and say as you said a 13 round 9mm Browning, the Mk 23 owner would have the edge. And about the SIG having better shot placement...you can get the P220 in .45, .357SIG, and .40 S&amp;amp;W...all of these would be better than the 9mm version except for capacity. And just one more thing.....have you ever fired a full size assault rifle in real life, not COD4? Just curious--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 18:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Full size assault rifle? I didn't know there were small and mediun sizes. I haven't fired a full auto assault rifle yet but I've fired plenty of AR-15s and AK 47s a M1A, I even got a AR 15 of my own. The only full auto I've fired was a M60 when I was young. The SIG P220 only comes in .45 now, never was in .357 SIG or .40 S&amp;amp;W. Only 9mm, 7.62 parabellum, .38 super, and .45 ACP. How does a MK23 owner have the edge? The thing is too big and unwieldy, can't conceal carry it at all and would be slow to draw from a holster. Only has a larger round but only counts if you can actually shoot faster than your opponent. Another story I have is one cop had to draw and shoot someone drawing his gun, the cop fired and hit him with his .45 faster than the criminals 9mm yet the criminal still was able to complete the draw and shot and killed the cop then ran off and died later. Let me say again that the people this pistol is aimed at and issued by choice don't even like the MK23, the people that HAVE to use their weapons on a regular basis don't like it and they have experiance. Why do you want to carry it when you have no experiance? You obviously do get your preferances from video games because how else would you get your preferance of te MK23? Either that or you watch too many movies. What have you shot exactly and what do you own?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 18:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to back the little guy here, this isnt even about resident evil any more its just the pair of you dick measuring. I have no problem with 9mm but i love the Mk23, granted im a bigger guy and dont feel its 'too much gun' for me. I have no problems pulling and firing it at decent speed and accuracy, but remember its not about draw speed this isnt the wild west. Pistols are sidearms now, you wanna draw fast and double tap then take a colt SAA. If the kid prefers the Mk23 then dont just say its down to video games, the only game i know of where the MK23 is available is metal gear solid, and thats wank anyway. Personal preference is just that. Its down to the individual. Tho to remain un biased the desert eagle is in no way a combat pistol. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:31, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Mk 23 has been available in every Rainbow Six game since RS3(and maybe earlier, I forget), and a &amp;quot;high tech&amp;quot; version(where the laser pointer is also capable of shutting down lights and electronics at a distance) of the Mk 23 is Sam Fisher's sidearm in the Splinter Cell games. It's also been used in the SOCOM game series, which I suppose is an appropriate place for it. These are all pretty popular, big name shooter games. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Double tapping with a SAA, thats a new one. I'm 6'4 but theres a point when a gun is too big. Where else would someone get a preferance for a gun when he hasn't most likely held or fired one? Definatly not through reading up on a gun board about it where those experianced with fire arms reside. I have no problem with shooting a .45 but I prefer my 9mm because of how slim it is and the cost of ammo is much less. Theres a difference in preference and picking something with research, and without it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'll agree about preference, but remember it STARTED with him saying Carlos shoulda kept the Desert Eagles over a 9mm, with both FiveTwoSeven and myself disagreeing with him. It seems to me his bringing up other calibers(we didn't initiate that discussion) was him (successfully) trying to direct the conversation away from the original argument, that being the fact that the DE is not a combat handgun(which you agreed with as well), and would not and is not carried by any combat professional(which Carlos is supposed to be). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
If he owns a MK23 than he can do as he wants and I don't care. If hes just read about it, watched it in movies, or used it in a video game than his decision is stupid. I have used many different kinds of guns and have decided on a 9mm Hi Power. My decision was through experiance, not armchair-commandoing.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Because it's a great sidearm. Size and weight IS not a factor to me when it comes to superb practicality. As I mentioned before, it is very durable, reliable, accurate, and controllable (because of its recoil-reduction buffer which keeps the muzzle-flip down which means it stays on target better). I also forgot to mention that it's also corrosion-resistant and can take P+ armor-piercing rounds. Whats wrong with a pistol that can hit a Tango through the eye at 50 meters with a suppressor. Isn't it better for&lt;br /&gt;
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If FiveTwoSeven would think back to the beginning of the conversation you will see that I never actually SAID that the IMI Desert Eagle was a combat handgun. You keep saying &amp;quot;it's not a combat handgun, it's not a combat handgun&amp;quot; but honestly I don't know why the hell you believe that's what I think.O_o Beats me where you got that from. And about the MK23's weight, no-one else seems to be complaining. You obviously think that the 9mm is best, well, i'm not going to destroy your delusions, &lt;br /&gt;
it's your loss. In reference to a previous comment, by &amp;quot;full-size assault rifle&amp;quot; i mean not a &amp;quot;Short Assaut Rifle&amp;quot;, or SAR. Plenty of them exist. For example the Micro Galil, Colt Commando, and AK 74U. And yes, i have shot a full=size assault rifle. I'm in the Army Cadets and havefired the Steyr F88 AUG 5.56x45mm, both with blanks and live ammunition. And thank you to all the people on my side of the argument, good to see some people have the right idea.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 08:57, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that all the experiance you have with actually shooting guns? Thats not enough to claim something is better. Why do you think the MK 23 is so good when the professionals hate it? Even though I dislike H&amp;amp;K, I wouldn't care if you liked the USP 45. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wasn't specific to the Hi Power, it was more of 9mm vs. 45acp at that point. How is firing a short assault rifle different or give you less experiance than a full size? It turned into a argument like that because I was defending the 9mm, its delusional to think that its weak.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The 9mm is not weak in itself, just compared to the .45 Auto. Thats the reason i said that the MK23 is better than the Browning because it has greater power to capacity RATIO. Add the superb accuracy and i think that it it better. Firing a Short Assault Rifle doesn't give you more experience, nor was that my point. I didn't say that i had more experience than FiveTwoSeven because of that difference. I guess i just made that classification because the original conversation was about handguns.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 14:39, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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http://intrencik.com/357sig_files/Handgun_gel_comparison.jpg While .45acp is better to shoot someone with, it doesn't seem that much better. The biggest thing that gets me about this caliber war is the fact that alot of people believe that .45acp is the end all, instant-death-ray-gun. One thing that bothers me is your choice of gun. There are many other .45s that are better and hold more. The USP 45 holds the same but is more manageable with its smaller size. The Glock 21 holds 13 rounds of .45, the Springfield XD holds 13, and my favorite out of the high cap .45s, the FNH FNP 45. Holds 14 rounds of .45acp. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 15:20, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Better? For accuracy? Not even close. Those pistols that hold more, we're talking 1-2 rounds difference. It doesn't make them better.You put one in the chamber plusa full mag that's 13rds. And again it's personal preference. I happen to like the look of the MK23 better than others. No, I don't think that the .45ACP is a &amp;quot;end all, instant-death-ray-gun&amp;quot; But if you have two guys, and one gets hit by 9mm, the other gets hit with a .45, both at the same distance, same barrel length, same rifling, hell, same weapon frame, there is MORE chance that the .45 will take him out first shot. --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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While I agree with FIVETWOSEVEN for the most part about the 9mm and all. I mean hell, my home defense gun is a Browning BDA380 even though I was ever so close to convincing my dad to get the tu-tone Glock 17 when it was on sale. Anyway, I will have to agree with Gunmaster12 that Carlos should have kept the DEs. Don't forget, these guys aren't fighting people who are shooting back but fighting zombies and everybody knows the best way to kill zombies is the shoot them in the head and with his DEs firing a massive .44 magnum, it should probably give Carlos at better chance and blowing off the head than with a 9mm. Just my 2 cents. --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 00:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Now that I think about it, that does make more sense. I've never fired or even held a DE before(almost nobody sells them in my area) so I have no idea how heavy it is. This brings up another question, if LJ still had a DE and ammo, did Carlos simply lose his desert eagles or what as he and LJ could have pooled the ammo since their DEs are the same caliber.--[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 02:05, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I like how that guy's name is &amp;quot;Gunmaster,&amp;quot; but he doesnt know that much about guns, or from what I've heard, anything.  The Desert Eagle is just as bad as any one of these smart guys will say. I know from personal experience that the 9x19mm is a fine round, I personally don't trust it for my home defense, for that I have the pistol that has never failed me, my 1911.  Like many people have said, its not so much caliber, as shot placement.  This is very true.  Look at the AR-15 compared to an AK47, AR has a smaller round (by far)but is much more accurate.  That right there is the key.  Your firearm must be accurate, but so must you be.  Just because you have a .50 Caliber Action Express, doesn't mean you're ready to start WWIII.  Of course I still prefer the .45 ACP, but if you're good, a 9x19mm will do the trick... thats my 2 cents anyway --[[PunisherDave]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Dual AA12s? Great, the MW2 kids found this site. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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FiveTwoSeven, I respect your argument but I still hold my place. The MK23 is a good gun, .45ACP is a good calibre, the Desert Eagle isn't a combat handgun (nor did I ever say it was) but for the requirements of the movie, (which will be watched by more people who know nothing about guns than those who do), I think that Carlos should have kept the Desert Eagles in Extinction. Not because the weapon is a better choice in real life, but because they have more of a cinematic presence  than the HK USP Compact. When people see him blasting away at zombies in Vegas with USPs, they think &amp;quot;meh&amp;quot;. But when they see him rappeling from a helicopter shooting the big, loud, scary Deagles, they think &amp;quot;Wow!&amp;quot;--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And I've got to agree with FiveTwoSeven. Dual AA-12s? you would either have to hold them on different levels or set the up for left/right hand operation to stop the shells from ejecting from one gun, ricocheting off the other and hitting you in the face. Its not so much of a problem with handguns, but with any rifles/shotguns it would be a big problem. Apart from all those potential problems, the aiming would suffer REALLY badly, even with the spread shotguns have. You would chew through ammo like crazy too.(Ditto for minigun) sorry, but you probably couldn't get much worse than that in real life, but it would look good in a movie, as the Desert Eagle does. &lt;br /&gt;
To the Barry1394: &amp;quot;the most overkilling badass senario possible&amp;quot; my point exacty. People who watch the movie want thrills. 9mm USPs don't have anything &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; with them but Desert Eagles are &amp;quot;badass&amp;quot; and  have good looks, and noise.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To FiveTwoSeven: Respect man. You came up with some excellent points during the debate. Good on ya. Gunmaster12 signing out--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Carlos's handguns */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
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What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:( --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only when your out of 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:FiveTwoSeven is right on the money. Desert Eagles might beat 9mm if you're hunting rhinos or grizzly bears or something, but otherwise, they're a bulky, heavy, oversized gun firing unnecessarily big bullets. Hate to tell you man, but the real world doesn't work like Call of Duty, there's NO real world military or police force that carries the DE, while there are tons carrying 9mm pistols. And there's a reason for that. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)                                                &lt;br /&gt;
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The Desert Eagle may be over-powered, but the 9mm is definatly under-powered. You could hit an enemy 4-5 times and not take them out, but with the Desert Eagle you only need 1 shot. And please don't tell me your a &amp;quot;9mm all the way&amp;quot;, because there are more calibres that are better than the 9mm than there are worse, by far. (.41AE, 10mm Auto, 9x21mmIMI, and of course .45 ACP, plus all the magnums .357 and .44 are better by my books.)And no, i don't think the world works like COD4, because i have found more mistakes with the firearms than you could ever imagine. Ditto for MW2. I wish i had had a say in the making of the games, i would have changed a lot. sorry if i caused offence.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I take it that you come from video games and know little about real guns. 9mm is perfectly fine for anything related to personal defence. One very well known writer that also lives in my home state New Hampshire, Massod Ayoob, is a retired police officer. He is VERY experianced with guns and in fact &amp;quot;gunfighting&amp;quot; aswell. He has actually been in real gun fights. He writes alot about gun fights where someone had to draw their weapon. He is by definition a true expert on guns. He packs a 9mm daily. Would he if it took several rounds to do what one round of .45 could do? No he wouldn't. There has been one account of someone that was shot 4 times with a .45 and walked out of the hospital a few hours later and many other accounts where someone was shot once with a 9mm and was dead before he hit the ground. One gun high as a kite on meth was shot 6 times with a .41 magnum and kept fighting and took getting run over the the LEO's partner with the cruiser and he was still trying to fight even with the vehicle over him .41 AE is a near obsolete round, 9x21 is extremely uncommon, and 10mm is uncommon to a point. The desert eagle is NOT a fighting handgun, way to big and unwieldy. Also putting trust into a large round to stop someone kinda says that you don't trust your self to hit him somewhere vital and you hope that he drops dead. Getting hit once with a .50 AE doesn't garentee a one shot stop. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Everything the above guy said is dead on the money. And anyway Gunmaster, if the DE is so much better than a 9mm handgun, I'll reiterate-why do NO military or law enforcement agencies in the world carry them, yet many still carry 9mm weapons? Even units who have the freedom to choose their own sidearms do not carry Desert Eagles, why do you think that is? Sure, you can argue that 9mm isn't the best round in the world and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that a 9mm handgun is STILL better for combat use than a DE, unless your definition of &amp;quot;combat&amp;quot; includes shootouts with elephants or something. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 08:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay for starters don't get worked up, I'm not trying to start a 9mm/other calibres war.....&lt;br /&gt;
And no, I didn't get anything  know about guns from video games. I have just always had an interest in firearms for the last 8 years of my life, since age 8 all the while I've simply been gathering information through good old books. I can promise you that you'd be surprised. No shit, you ask me a question about any weapons specifications I can answer it. Without Google.&lt;br /&gt;
Now, the 9x19mm Luger Parabellum round has many advantages, such as ammunition capacity, but it is seriously lacking in power, fair and square.&lt;br /&gt;
But as a military calibre, things such as capacity may be an issue. Take the Colt M1911 .45 ACP (11.43x23mm) pistol. The .45 round is the optimal military calibre in terms of power, but that particular weapon takes only 7 rounds. Most weapons in that calibre can't take high amounts of ammunition, and at the time of the XM9 handgun trials Beretta and SIG-Sauer took the spotlight, ruining the chances of weapons like the Spanish Star &amp;quot;Megastar&amp;quot; .45ACP, and the HK MK 23 MOD 0 SOCOM .45ACP. Those ones can take 12 rounds of ammunition. And my definition of combat includes circumstances that can never be forseen. Thus you must always be prepared. If I was put on the battlefield with one handgun of my choice it would definatly and without a doubt be a Hecklar &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23 Model 0 .45.Comparativly puny Glock 17s, Berreta M92-SB-Fs, and USP-9s wouldn't come close. But don't get me wrong, 9mms have their time and place. It can sometimes come down to personal preference; mine just doesn't run to the 9mm Parabellum round. One more thing, my views on the 9mm are much different when your talking sub-machine guns. I would never diss the HK MP5, it's variants, the IMI Uzi, it's variants, and definatly not the Steyr AUG Para SMG.&lt;br /&gt;
About the Desert Eagle not being in service anywhere, it's obvious the NATO countries would look to their own country's weapons before adopting an Israeli weapon, and after the Glock started getting used by &amp;quot;over 65% of the world's military and police forces&amp;quot; as they claim, Israel decided to as well. Anyway I respect your argument but I hope you can also respect mine --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isreal wasn't using the Desert Eagle BEFORE they adopted the Glock. People don't carry it because it's NOT A COMBAT HANDGUN. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 21:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing how you like the MK23 it definatly shows where you come from. If you were to hang around a non HK-biased gun board like TheHighRoad.org, you would know that its a huge over priced pistol. The Desert Eagle is FAR FROM A COMBAT PISTOL PERIOD. Not even the country that made it issues it. &amp;lt;-------- Read that. Judging by your weapon choices I see that you come from Rainbow 6 Vegas, not real life. Although FMJ 9mm isn't the best I know that but when you can have hollow points its perfectly fine. If I were to fight in a official Military force I would carry either a SIG Sauer P220, FNP 45 or I would still pack my 9mm Hi Power. The MK23 is one of the SOCOM issue weapons yet it is rarely carried, why you may ask? Because its do big and unwieldy. The Navy SEALs have choosen the 9mm P226 over a .40 or a .45 because its shot placement. By the time you lug your MK23 or Desert Eagle out of the holster I would have already draw and double tapped you with my Hi Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, let's get something straight. I DO NOT GET MY WEAPON KNOWLAGE OR PREFERENCES FROM VIDEO GAMES. I've never played rainbow 6. i will say this though, good on you for your choice of the SIG-Sauer, best quality gun brand i think. I'm not HK-biased, i just know that in a firefight between a 12 round .45 MK 23 and say as you said a 13 round 9mm Browning, the Mk 23 owner would have the edge. And about the SIG having better shot placement...you can get the P220 in .45, .357SIG, and .40 S&amp;amp;W...all of these would be better than the 9mm version except for capacity. And just one more thing.....have you ever fired a full size assault rifle in real life, not COD4? Just curious--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 18:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You know the people the Mk 23 was designed for don't use it, right? If it was such an awesome gun, why do even THEY not carry it? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 21:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Full size assault rifle? I didn't know there were small and mediun sizes. I haven't fired a full auto assault rifle yet but I've fired plenty of AR-15s and AK 47s a M1A, I even got a AR 15 of my own. The only full auto I've fired was a M60 when I was young. The SIG P220 only comes in .45 now, never was in .357 SIG or .40 S&amp;amp;W. Only 9mm, 7.62 parabellum, .38 super, and .45 ACP. How does a MK23 owner have the edge? The thing is too big and unwieldy, can't conceal carry it at all and would be slow to draw from a holster. Only has a larger round but only counts if you can actually shoot faster than your opponent. Another story I have is one cop had to draw and shoot someone drawing his gun, the cop fired and hit him with his .45 faster than the criminals 9mm yet the criminal still was able to complete the draw and shot and killed the cop then ran off and died later. Let me say again that the people this pistol is aimed at and issued by choice don't even like the MK23, the people that HAVE to use their weapons on a regular basis don't like it and they have experiance. Why do you want to carry it when you have no experiance? You obviously do get your preferances from video games because how else would you get your preferance of te MK23? Either that or you watch too many movies. What have you shot exactly and what do you own?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 18:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to back the little guy here, this isnt even about resident evil any more its just the pair of you dick measuring. I have no problem with 9mm but i love the Mk23, granted im a bigger guy and dont feel its 'too much gun' for me. I have no problems pulling and firing it at decent speed and accuracy, but remember its not about draw speed this isnt the wild west. Pistols are sidearms now, you wanna draw fast and double tap then take a colt SAA. If the kid prefers the Mk23 then dont just say its down to video games, the only game i know of where the MK23 is available is metal gear solid, and thats wank anyway. Personal preference is just that. Its down to the individual. Tho to remain un biased the desert eagle is in no way a combat pistol. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:31, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Mk 23 has been available in every Rainbow Six game since RS3(and maybe earlier, I forget), and a &amp;quot;high tech&amp;quot; version(where the laser pointer is also capable of shutting down lights and electronics at a distance) of the Mk 23 is Sam Fisher's sidearm in the Splinter Cell games. It's also been used in the SOCOM game series, which I suppose is an appropriate place for it. These are all pretty popular, big name shooter games. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Double tapping with a SAA, thats a new one. I'm 6'4 but theres a point when a gun is too big. Where else would someone get a preferance for a gun when he hasn't most likely held or fired one? Definatly not through reading up on a gun board about it where those experianced with fire arms reside. I have no problem with shooting a .45 but I prefer my 9mm because of how slim it is and the cost of ammo is much less. Theres a difference in preference and picking something with research, and without it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet again bub, personal preference, too big for you might be a good fit for someone else --[[Special:Contributions/86.166.15.114|86.166.15.114]] 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll agree about preference, but remember it STARTED with him saying Carlos shoulda kept the Desert Eagles over a 9mm, with both FiveTwoSeven and myself disagreeing with him. It seems to me his bringing up other calibers(we didn't initiate that discussion) was him (successfully) trying to direct the conversation away from the original argument, that being the fact that the DE is not a combat handgun(which you agreed with as well), and would not and is not carried by any combat professional(which Carlos is supposed to be). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
If he owns a MK23 than he can do as he wants and I don't care. If hes just read about it, watched it in movies, or used it in a video game than his decision is stupid. I have used many different kinds of guns and have decided on a 9mm Hi Power. My decision was through experiance, not armchair-commandoing.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree, the Desert Eagle is NOT a combat handgun, it's large, heavy, loud, very expensive, and not very reliable, but it has two pros: stopping-power and accuracy. The .50AE, 44 Magnum, and 357 Magnum almost guarantees a one-shot kill. In media, the only thing I've seen the Desert Eagle's ballistic damage realistically portrayed in so far is L4D2. Ballistic damage wise, it is the most realistic weapon in the game. I fully believe that the Desert Eagle in real life is capable of blowing off limbs and bursting heads like melons (in fact, even the 7.62X39mm round is known in real life to cause heads to explode!). Not that I'm praising it, I sill think it's not a good combat pistol, although it could be a very effective weapon in the right hands. &lt;br /&gt;
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The MK23 SOCOM on the other hand, IS a combat handgun. Yes, the Navy Seals dislike it because it's large and heavy but I think it makes up for this with it's durability, reliability, accuracy, controllably, and it's 12 round magazine. I think that the pros far outweigh the &amp;quot;cons&amp;quot;, how many other ,45 ACP handguns (besides maybe the SIG P220) can get 2 inch groupings at 50 meters right out of the box. Its long 5.9 inch, O-ring equipped barrel combined with it's recoil-reduction buffer (which keeps the muzzle-flip very minimal) is the reason why it's so accurate. I think the Special Forces need to suck it up, because size and weight shouldn't be an issue(unless excessive like the Desert Eagle) when it comes to a highly effective combat pistol. True, I've never held a SOCOM pistol but I doubt it's not nearly as &amp;quot;big a deal&amp;quot; as the Desert Eagle, which fits my hand just fine, and I'm just a skinny white guy that's 6 feet tall and weighs less than 180 lbs!&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm 6'4 and 150lbs. While the MK23 may be a combat handgun, doesn't mean that its the best or good. Its a sidearm, not a main arm so why would you really want 2&amp;quot; groupings at 50 yards, that range you should be using your main arm. The closet I've come to a MK23 was a airsoft gun and its huge, there is no need for a SIDEARM to be that big. If the experts don't like it, than why do you?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:08, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If FiveTwoSeven would think back to the beginning of the conversation you will see that I never actually SAID that the IMI Desert Eagle was a combat handgun. You keep saying &amp;quot;it's not a combat handgun, it's not a combat handgun&amp;quot; but honestly I don't know why the hell you believe that's what I think.O_o Beats me where you got that from. And about the MK23's weight, no-one else seems to be complaining. You obviously think that the 9mm is best, well, i'm not going to destroy your delusions, &lt;br /&gt;
it's your loss. In reference to a previous comment, by &amp;quot;full-size assault rifle&amp;quot; i mean not a &amp;quot;Short Assaut Rifle&amp;quot;, or SAR. Plenty of them exist. For example the Micro Galil, Colt Commando, and AK 74U. And yes, i have shot a full=size assault rifle. I'm in the Army Cadets and havefired the Steyr F88 AUG 5.56x45mm, both with blanks and live ammunition. And thank you to all the people on my side of the argument, good to see some people have the right idea.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 08:57, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that all the experiance you have with actually shooting guns? Thats not enough to claim something is better. Why do you think the MK 23 is so good when the professionals hate it? Even though I dislike H&amp;amp;K, I wouldn't care if you liked the USP 45. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wasn't specific to the Hi Power, it was more of 9mm vs. 45acp at that point. How is firing a short assault rifle different or give you less experiance than a full size? It turned into a argument like that because I was defending the 9mm, its delusional to think that its weak.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The 9mm is not weak in itself, just compared to the .45 Auto. Thats the reason i said that the MK23 is better than the Browning because it has greater power to capacity RATIO. Add the superb accuracy and i think that it it better. Firing a Short Assault Rifle doesn't give you more experience, nor was that my point. I didn't say that i had more experience than FiveTwoSeven because of that difference. I guess i just made that classification because the original conversation was about handguns.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 14:39, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To FiveTwoSeven:thats fair enough i will sign this post, i just don't have an account--[[Special:Contributions/120.152.97.51|120.152.97.51]] 14:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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http://intrencik.com/357sig_files/Handgun_gel_comparison.jpg While .45acp is better to shoot someone with, it doesn't seem that much better. The biggest thing that gets me about this caliber war is the fact that alot of people believe that .45acp is the end all, instant-death-ray-gun. One thing that bothers me is your choice of gun. There are many other .45s that are better and hold more. The USP 45 holds the same but is more manageable with its smaller size. The Glock 21 holds 13 rounds of .45, the Springfield XD holds 13, and my favorite out of the high cap .45s, the FNH FNP 45. Holds 14 rounds of .45acp. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 15:20, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Better? For accuracy? Not even close. Those pistols that hold more, we're talking 1-2 rounds difference. It doesn't make them better.You put one in the chamber plusa full mag that's 13rds. And again it's personal preference. I happen to like the look of the MK23 better than others. No, I don't think that the .45ACP is a &amp;quot;end all, instant-death-ray-gun&amp;quot; But if you have two guys, and one gets hit by 9mm, the other gets hit with a .45, both at the same distance, same barrel length, same rifling, hell, same weapon frame, there is MORE chance that the .45 will take him out first shot. --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Carlos's handguns */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
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::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
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What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:( --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only when your out of 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:FiveTwoSeven is right on the money. Desert Eagles might beat 9mm if you're hunting rhinos or grizzly bears or something, but otherwise, they're a bulky, heavy, oversized gun firing unnecessarily big bullets. Hate to tell you man, but the real world doesn't work like Call of Duty, there's NO real world military or police force that carries the DE, while there are tons carrying 9mm pistols. And there's a reason for that. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)                                                &lt;br /&gt;
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The Desert Eagle may be over-powered, but the 9mm is definatly under-powered. You could hit an enemy 4-5 times and not take them out, but with the Desert Eagle you only need 1 shot. And please don't tell me your a &amp;quot;9mm all the way&amp;quot;, because there are more calibres that are better than the 9mm than there are worse, by far. (.41AE, 10mm Auto, 9x21mmIMI, and of course .45 ACP, plus all the magnums .357 and .44 are better by my books.)And no, i don't think the world works like COD4, because i have found more mistakes with the firearms than you could ever imagine. Ditto for MW2. I wish i had had a say in the making of the games, i would have changed a lot. sorry if i caused offence.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I take it that you come from video games and know little about real guns. 9mm is perfectly fine for anything related to personal defence. One very well known writer that also lives in my home state New Hampshire, Massod Ayoob, is a retired police officer. He is VERY experianced with guns and in fact &amp;quot;gunfighting&amp;quot; aswell. He has actually been in real gun fights. He writes alot about gun fights where someone had to draw their weapon. He is by definition a true expert on guns. He packs a 9mm daily. Would he if it took several rounds to do what one round of .45 could do? No he wouldn't. There has been one account of someone that was shot 4 times with a .45 and walked out of the hospital a few hours later and many other accounts where someone was shot once with a 9mm and was dead before he hit the ground. One gun high as a kite on meth was shot 6 times with a .41 magnum and kept fighting and took getting run over the the LEO's partner with the cruiser and he was still trying to fight even with the vehicle over him .41 AE is a near obsolete round, 9x21 is extremely uncommon, and 10mm is uncommon to a point. The desert eagle is NOT a fighting handgun, way to big and unwieldy. Also putting trust into a large round to stop someone kinda says that you don't trust your self to hit him somewhere vital and you hope that he drops dead. Getting hit once with a .50 AE doesn't garentee a one shot stop. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Everything the above guy said is dead on the money. And anyway Gunmaster, if the DE is so much better than a 9mm handgun, I'll reiterate-why do NO military or law enforcement agencies in the world carry them, yet many still carry 9mm weapons? Even units who have the freedom to choose their own sidearms do not carry Desert Eagles, why do you think that is? Sure, you can argue that 9mm isn't the best round in the world and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that a 9mm handgun is STILL better for combat use than a DE, unless your definition of &amp;quot;combat&amp;quot; includes shootouts with elephants or something. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 08:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay for starters don't get worked up, I'm not trying to start a 9mm/other calibres war.....&lt;br /&gt;
And no, I didn't get anything  know about guns from video games. I have just always had an interest in firearms for the last 8 years of my life, since age 8 all the while I've simply been gathering information through good old books. I can promise you that you'd be surprised. No shit, you ask me a question about any weapons specifications I can answer it. Without Google.&lt;br /&gt;
Now, the 9x19mm Luger Parabellum round has many advantages, such as ammunition capacity, but it is seriously lacking in power, fair and square.&lt;br /&gt;
But as a military calibre, things such as capacity may be an issue. Take the Colt M1911 .45 ACP (11.43x23mm) pistol. The .45 round is the optimal military calibre in terms of power, but that particular weapon takes only 7 rounds. Most weapons in that calibre can't take high amounts of ammunition, and at the time of the XM9 handgun trials Beretta and SIG-Sauer took the spotlight, ruining the chances of weapons like the Spanish Star &amp;quot;Megastar&amp;quot; .45ACP, and the HK MK 23 MOD 0 SOCOM .45ACP. Those ones can take 12 rounds of ammunition. And my definition of combat includes circumstances that can never be forseen. Thus you must always be prepared. If I was put on the battlefield with one handgun of my choice it would definatly and without a doubt be a Hecklar &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23 Model 0 .45.Comparativly puny Glock 17s, Berreta M92-SB-Fs, and USP-9s wouldn't come close. But don't get me wrong, 9mms have their time and place. It can sometimes come down to personal preference; mine just doesn't run to the 9mm Parabellum round. One more thing, my views on the 9mm are much different when your talking sub-machine guns. I would never diss the HK MP5, it's variants, the IMI Uzi, it's variants, and definatly not the Steyr AUG Para SMG.&lt;br /&gt;
About the Desert Eagle not being in service anywhere, it's obvious the NATO countries would look to their own country's weapons before adopting an Israeli weapon, and after the Glock started getting used by &amp;quot;over 65% of the world's military and police forces&amp;quot; as they claim, Israel decided to as well. Anyway I respect your argument but I hope you can also respect mine --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isreal wasn't using the Desert Eagle BEFORE they adopted the Glock. People don't carry it because it's NOT A COMBAT HANDGUN. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 21:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing how you like the MK23 it definatly shows where you come from. If you were to hang around a non HK-biased gun board like TheHighRoad.org, you would know that its a huge over priced pistol. The Desert Eagle is FAR FROM A COMBAT PISTOL PERIOD. Not even the country that made it issues it. &amp;lt;-------- Read that. Judging by your weapon choices I see that you come from Rainbow 6 Vegas, not real life. Although FMJ 9mm isn't the best I know that but when you can have hollow points its perfectly fine. If I were to fight in a official Military force I would carry either a SIG Sauer P220, FNP 45 or I would still pack my 9mm Hi Power. The MK23 is one of the SOCOM issue weapons yet it is rarely carried, why you may ask? Because its do big and unwieldy. The Navy SEALs have choosen the 9mm P226 over a .40 or a .45 because its shot placement. By the time you lug your MK23 or Desert Eagle out of the holster I would have already draw and double tapped you with my Hi Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, let's get something straight. I DO NOT GET MY WEAPON KNOWLAGE OR PREFERENCES FROM VIDEO GAMES. I've never played rainbow 6. i will say this though, good on you for your choice of the SIG-Sauer, best quality gun brand i think. I'm not HK-biased, i just know that in a firefight between a 12 round .45 MK 23 and say as you said a 13 round 9mm Browning, the Mk 23 owner would have the edge. And about the SIG having better shot placement...you can get the P220 in .45, .357SIG, and .40 S&amp;amp;W...all of these would be better than the 9mm version except for capacity. And just one more thing.....have you ever fired a full size assault rifle in real life, not COD4? Just curious--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 18:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You know the people the Mk 23 was designed for don't use it, right? If it was such an awesome gun, why do even THEY not carry it? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 21:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Full size assault rifle? I didn't know there were small and mediun sizes. I haven't fired a full auto assault rifle yet but I've fired plenty of AR-15s and AK 47s a M1A, I even got a AR 15 of my own. The only full auto I've fired was a M60 when I was young. The SIG P220 only comes in .45 now, never was in .357 SIG or .40 S&amp;amp;W. Only 9mm, 7.62 parabellum, .38 super, and .45 ACP. How does a MK23 owner have the edge? The thing is too big and unwieldy, can't conceal carry it at all and would be slow to draw from a holster. Only has a larger round but only counts if you can actually shoot faster than your opponent. Another story I have is one cop had to draw and shoot someone drawing his gun, the cop fired and hit him with his .45 faster than the criminals 9mm yet the criminal still was able to complete the draw and shot and killed the cop then ran off and died later. Let me say again that the people this pistol is aimed at and issued by choice don't even like the MK23, the people that HAVE to use their weapons on a regular basis don't like it and they have experiance. Why do you want to carry it when you have no experiance? You obviously do get your preferances from video games because how else would you get your preferance of te MK23? Either that or you watch too many movies. What have you shot exactly and what do you own?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 18:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to back the little guy here, this isnt even about resident evil any more its just the pair of you dick measuring. I have no problem with 9mm but i love the Mk23, granted im a bigger guy and dont feel its 'too much gun' for me. I have no problems pulling and firing it at decent speed and accuracy, but remember its not about draw speed this isnt the wild west. Pistols are sidearms now, you wanna draw fast and double tap then take a colt SAA. If the kid prefers the Mk23 then dont just say its down to video games, the only game i know of where the MK23 is available is metal gear solid, and thats wank anyway. Personal preference is just that. Its down to the individual. Tho to remain un biased the desert eagle is in no way a combat pistol. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:31, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Mk 23 has been available in every Rainbow Six game since RS3(and maybe earlier, I forget), and a &amp;quot;high tech&amp;quot; version(where the laser pointer is also capable of shutting down lights and electronics at a distance) of the Mk 23 is Sam Fisher's sidearm in the Splinter Cell games. It's also been used in the SOCOM game series, which I suppose is an appropriate place for it. These are all pretty popular, big name shooter games. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Double tapping with a SAA, thats a new one. I'm 6'4 but theres a point when a gun is too big. Where else would someone get a preferance for a gun when he hasn't most likely held or fired one? Definatly not through reading up on a gun board about it where those experianced with fire arms reside. I have no problem with shooting a .45 but I prefer my 9mm because of how slim it is and the cost of ammo is much less. Theres a difference in preference and picking something with research, and without it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet again bub, personal preference, too big for you might be a good fit for someone else --[[Special:Contributions/86.166.15.114|86.166.15.114]] 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll agree about preference, but remember it STARTED with him saying Carlos shoulda kept the Desert Eagles over a 9mm, with both FiveTwoSeven and myself disagreeing with him. It seems to me his bringing up other calibers(we didn't initiate that discussion) was him (successfully) trying to direct the conversation away from the original argument, that being the fact that the DE is not a combat handgun(which you agreed with as well), and would not and is not carried by any combat professional(which Carlos is supposed to be). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
If he owns a MK23 than he can do as he wants and I don't care. If hes just read about it, watched it in movies, or used it in a video game than his decision is stupid. I have used many different kinds of guns and have decided on a 9mm Hi Power. My decision was through experiance, not armchair-commandoing.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree, the Desert Eagle is NOT a combat handgun, it's large, heavy, loud, very expensive, and not very reliable, but it has two pros: stopping-power and accuracy. The .50AE, 44 Magnum, and 357 Magnum almost guarantees a one-shot kill. In media, the only thing I've seen the Desert Eagle's ballistic damage realistically portrayed in so far is L4D2. Ballistic damage wise, it is the most realistic weapon in the game. I fully believe that the Desert Eagle in real life is capable of blowing off limbs and bursting heads like melons (in fact, even the 7.62X39mm round is known in real life to cause heads to explode!). Not that I'm praising it, I sill think it's not a good combat pistol, although it could be a very effective weapon in the right hands. &lt;br /&gt;
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The MK23 SOCOM on the other hand, IS a combat handgun. Yes, the Navy Seals dislike it because it's large and heavy but I think it makes up for this with it's durability, reliability, accuracy, controllably, and it's 12 round magazine. I think that the pros far outweigh the &amp;quot;cons&amp;quot;, how many other ,45 ACP handguns (besides maybe the SIG P220) can get 2 inch groupings at 50 meters right out of the box. Its long 5.9 inch, O-ring equipped barrel combined with it's recoil-reduction buffer (which keeps the muzzle-flip very minimal) is the reason why it's so accurate. I think the Special Forces need to suck it up, because size and weight shouldn't be an issue(unless excessive like the Desert Eagle) when it comes to a highly effective combat pistol. True, I've never held a SOCOM pistol but I doubt it's not nearly as &amp;quot;big a deal&amp;quot; as the Desert Eagle, which fits my hand just fine, and I'm just a skinny white guy that's 6 feet tall and weighs less than 180 lbs!&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm 6'4 and 150lbs. While the MK23 may be a combat handgun, doesn't mean that its the best or good. Its a sidearm, not a main arm so why would you really want 2&amp;quot; groupings at 50 yards, that range you should be using your main arm. The closet I've come to a MK23 was a airsoft gun and its huge, there is no need for a SIDEARM to be that big. If the experts don't like it, than why do you?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:08, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If FiveTwoSeven would think back to the beginning of the conversation you will see that I never actually SAID that the IMI Desert Eagle was a combat handgun. You keep saying &amp;quot;it's not a combat handgun, it's not a combat handgun&amp;quot; but honestly I don't know why the hell you believe that's what I think.O_o Beats me where you got that from. And about the MK23's weight, no-one else seems to be complaining. You obviously think that the 9mm is best, well, i'm not going to destroy your delusions, &lt;br /&gt;
it's your loss. In reference to a previous comment, by &amp;quot;full-size assault rifle&amp;quot; i mean not a &amp;quot;Short Assaut Rifle&amp;quot;, or SAR. Plenty of them exist. For example the Micro Galil, Colt Commando, and AK 74U. And yes, i have shot a full=size assault rifle. I'm in the Army Cadets and havefired the Steyr F88 AUG 5.56x45mm, both with blanks and live ammunition. And thank you to all the people on my side of the argument, good to see some people have the right idea.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 08:57, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that all the experiance you have with actually shooting guns? Thats not enough to claim something is better. Why do you think the MK 23 is so good when the professionals hate it? --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wasn't specific to the Hi Power, it was more of 9mm vs. 45acp at that point. How is firing a short assault rifle different or give you less experiance than a full size? It turned into a argument like that because I was defending the 9mm, its delusional to think that its weak.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The 9mm is not weak in itself, just compared to the .45 Auto. Thats the reason i said that the MK23 is better than the Browning because it has greater power to capacity RATIO. Add the superb accuracy and i think that it it better. Firing a Short Assault Rifle doesn't give you more experience, nor was that my point. I didn't say that i had more experience than FiveTwoSeven because of that difference. I guess i just made that classification because the original conversation was about handguns.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 14:39, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Carlos's handguns */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
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What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:( --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only when your out of 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:FiveTwoSeven is right on the money. Desert Eagles might beat 9mm if you're hunting rhinos or grizzly bears or something, but otherwise, they're a bulky, heavy, oversized gun firing unnecessarily big bullets. Hate to tell you man, but the real world doesn't work like Call of Duty, there's NO real world military or police force that carries the DE, while there are tons carrying 9mm pistols. And there's a reason for that. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)                                                &lt;br /&gt;
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The Desert Eagle may be over-powered, but the 9mm is definatly under-powered. You could hit an enemy 4-5 times and not take them out, but with the Desert Eagle you only need 1 shot. And please don't tell me your a &amp;quot;9mm all the way&amp;quot;, because there are more calibres that are better than the 9mm than there are worse, by far. (.41AE, 10mm Auto, 9x21mmIMI, and of course .45 ACP, plus all the magnums .357 and .44 are better by my books.)And no, i don't think the world works like COD4, because i have found more mistakes with the firearms than you could ever imagine. Ditto for MW2. I wish i had had a say in the making of the games, i would have changed a lot. sorry if i caused offence.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I take it that you come from video games and know little about real guns. 9mm is perfectly fine for anything related to personal defence. One very well known writer that also lives in my home state New Hampshire, Massod Ayoob, is a retired police officer. He is VERY experianced with guns and in fact &amp;quot;gunfighting&amp;quot; aswell. He has actually been in real gun fights. He writes alot about gun fights where someone had to draw their weapon. He is by definition a true expert on guns. He packs a 9mm daily. Would he if it took several rounds to do what one round of .45 could do? No he wouldn't. There has been one account of someone that was shot 4 times with a .45 and walked out of the hospital a few hours later and many other accounts where someone was shot once with a 9mm and was dead before he hit the ground. One gun high as a kite on meth was shot 6 times with a .41 magnum and kept fighting and took getting run over the the LEO's partner with the cruiser and he was still trying to fight even with the vehicle over him .41 AE is a near obsolete round, 9x21 is extremely uncommon, and 10mm is uncommon to a point. The desert eagle is NOT a fighting handgun, way to big and unwieldy. Also putting trust into a large round to stop someone kinda says that you don't trust your self to hit him somewhere vital and you hope that he drops dead. Getting hit once with a .50 AE doesn't garentee a one shot stop. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Everything the above guy said is dead on the money. And anyway Gunmaster, if the DE is so much better than a 9mm handgun, I'll reiterate-why do NO military or law enforcement agencies in the world carry them, yet many still carry 9mm weapons? Even units who have the freedom to choose their own sidearms do not carry Desert Eagles, why do you think that is? Sure, you can argue that 9mm isn't the best round in the world and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that a 9mm handgun is STILL better for combat use than a DE, unless your definition of &amp;quot;combat&amp;quot; includes shootouts with elephants or something. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 08:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay for starters don't get worked up, I'm not trying to start a 9mm/other calibres war.....&lt;br /&gt;
And no, I didn't get anything  know about guns from video games. I have just always had an interest in firearms for the last 8 years of my life, since age 8 all the while I've simply been gathering information through good old books. I can promise you that you'd be surprised. No shit, you ask me a question about any weapons specifications I can answer it. Without Google.&lt;br /&gt;
Now, the 9x19mm Luger Parabellum round has many advantages, such as ammunition capacity, but it is seriously lacking in power, fair and square.&lt;br /&gt;
But as a military calibre, things such as capacity may be an issue. Take the Colt M1911 .45 ACP (11.43x23mm) pistol. The .45 round is the optimal military calibre in terms of power, but that particular weapon takes only 7 rounds. Most weapons in that calibre can't take high amounts of ammunition, and at the time of the XM9 handgun trials Beretta and SIG-Sauer took the spotlight, ruining the chances of weapons like the Spanish Star &amp;quot;Megastar&amp;quot; .45ACP, and the HK MK 23 MOD 0 SOCOM .45ACP. Those ones can take 12 rounds of ammunition. And my definition of combat includes circumstances that can never be forseen. Thus you must always be prepared. If I was put on the battlefield with one handgun of my choice it would definatly and without a doubt be a Hecklar &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23 Model 0 .45.Comparativly puny Glock 17s, Berreta M92-SB-Fs, and USP-9s wouldn't come close. But don't get me wrong, 9mms have their time and place. It can sometimes come down to personal preference; mine just doesn't run to the 9mm Parabellum round. One more thing, my views on the 9mm are much different when your talking sub-machine guns. I would never diss the HK MP5, it's variants, the IMI Uzi, it's variants, and definatly not the Steyr AUG Para SMG.&lt;br /&gt;
About the Desert Eagle not being in service anywhere, it's obvious the NATO countries would look to their own country's weapons before adopting an Israeli weapon, and after the Glock started getting used by &amp;quot;over 65% of the world's military and police forces&amp;quot; as they claim, Israel decided to as well. Anyway I respect your argument but I hope you can also respect mine --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isreal wasn't using the Desert Eagle BEFORE they adopted the Glock. People don't carry it because it's NOT A COMBAT HANDGUN. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 21:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing how you like the MK23 it definatly shows where you come from. If you were to hang around a non HK-biased gun board like TheHighRoad.org, you would know that its a huge over priced pistol. The Desert Eagle is FAR FROM A COMBAT PISTOL PERIOD. Not even the country that made it issues it. &amp;lt;-------- Read that. Judging by your weapon choices I see that you come from Rainbow 6 Vegas, not real life. Although FMJ 9mm isn't the best I know that but when you can have hollow points its perfectly fine. If I were to fight in a official Military force I would carry either a SIG Sauer P220, FNP 45 or I would still pack my 9mm Hi Power. The MK23 is one of the SOCOM issue weapons yet it is rarely carried, why you may ask? Because its do big and unwieldy. The Navy SEALs have choosen the 9mm P226 over a .40 or a .45 because its shot placement. By the time you lug your MK23 or Desert Eagle out of the holster I would have already draw and double tapped you with my Hi Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, let's get something straight. I DO NOT GET MY WEAPON KNOWLAGE OR PREFERENCES FROM VIDEO GAMES. I've never played rainbow 6. i will say this though, good on you for your choice of the SIG-Sauer, best quality gun brand i think. I'm not HK-biased, i just know that in a firefight between a 12 round .45 MK 23 and say as you said a 13 round 9mm Browning, the Mk 23 owner would have the edge. And about the SIG having better shot placement...you can get the P220 in .45, .357SIG, and .40 S&amp;amp;W...all of these would be better than the 9mm version except for capacity. And just one more thing.....have you ever fired a full size assault rifle in real life, not COD4? Just curious--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 18:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You know the people the Mk 23 was designed for don't use it, right? If it was such an awesome gun, why do even THEY not carry it? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 21:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Full size assault rifle? I didn't know there were small and mediun sizes. I haven't fired a full auto assault rifle yet but I've fired plenty of AR-15s and AK 47s a M1A, I even got a AR 15 of my own. The only full auto I've fired was a M60 when I was young. The SIG P220 only comes in .45 now, never was in .357 SIG or .40 S&amp;amp;W. Only 9mm, 7.62 parabellum, .38 super, and .45 ACP. How does a MK23 owner have the edge? The thing is too big and unwieldy, can't conceal carry it at all and would be slow to draw from a holster. Only has a larger round but only counts if you can actually shoot faster than your opponent. Another story I have is one cop had to draw and shoot someone drawing his gun, the cop fired and hit him with his .45 faster than the criminals 9mm yet the criminal still was able to complete the draw and shot and killed the cop then ran off and died later. Let me say again that the people this pistol is aimed at and issued by choice don't even like the MK23, the people that HAVE to use their weapons on a regular basis don't like it and they have experiance. Why do you want to carry it when you have no experiance? You obviously do get your preferances from video games because how else would you get your preferance of te MK23? Either that or you watch too many movies. What have you shot exactly and what do you own?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 18:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to back the little guy here, this isnt even about resident evil any more its just the pair of you dick measuring. I have no problem with 9mm but i love the Mk23, granted im a bigger guy and dont feel its 'too much gun' for me. I have no problems pulling and firing it at decent speed and accuracy, but remember its not about draw speed this isnt the wild west. Pistols are sidearms now, you wanna draw fast and double tap then take a colt SAA. If the kid prefers the Mk23 then dont just say its down to video games, the only game i know of where the MK23 is available is metal gear solid, and thats wank anyway. Personal preference is just that. Its down to the individual. Tho to remain un biased the desert eagle is in no way a combat pistol. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:31, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Mk 23 has been available in every Rainbow Six game since RS3(and maybe earlier, I forget), and a &amp;quot;high tech&amp;quot; version(where the laser pointer is also capable of shutting down lights and electronics at a distance) of the Mk 23 is Sam Fisher's sidearm in the Splinter Cell games. It's also been used in the SOCOM game series, which I suppose is an appropriate place for it. These are all pretty popular, big name shooter games. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Double tapping with a SAA, thats a new one. I'm 6'4 but theres a point when a gun is too big. Where else would someone get a preferance for a gun when he hasn't most likely held or fired one? Definatly not through reading up on a gun board about it where those experianced with fire arms reside. I have no problem with shooting a .45 but I prefer my 9mm because of how slim it is and the cost of ammo is much less. Theres a difference in preference and picking something with research, and without it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet again bub, personal preference, too big for you might be a good fit for someone else --[[Special:Contributions/86.166.15.114|86.166.15.114]] 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll agree about preference, but remember it STARTED with him saying Carlos shoulda kept the Desert Eagles over a 9mm, with both FiveTwoSeven and myself disagreeing with him. It seems to me his bringing up other calibers(we didn't initiate that discussion) was him (successfully) trying to direct the conversation away from the original argument, that being the fact that the DE is not a combat handgun(which you agreed with as well), and would not and is not carried by any combat professional(which Carlos is supposed to be). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
If he owns a MK23 than he can do as he wants and I don't care. If hes just read about it, watched it in movies, or used it in a video game than his decision is stupid. I have used many different kinds of guns and have decided on a 9mm Hi Power. My decision was through experiance, not armchair-commandoing.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree, the Desert Eagle is NOT a combat handgun, it's large, heavy, loud, very expensive, and not very reliable, but it has two pros: stopping-power and accuracy. The .50AE, 44 Magnum, and 357 Magnum almost guarantees a one-shot kill. In media, the only thing I've seen the Desert Eagle's ballistic damage realistically portrayed in so far is L4D2. Ballistic damage wise, it is the most realistic weapon in the game. I fully believe that the Desert Eagle in real life is capable of blowing off limbs and bursting heads like melons (in fact, even the 7.62X39mm round is known in real life to cause heads to explode!). Not that I'm praising it, I sill think it's not a good combat pistol, although it could be a very effective weapon in the right hands. &lt;br /&gt;
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The MK23 SOCOM on the other hand, IS a combat handgun. Yes, the Navy Seals dislike it because it's large and heavy but I think it makes up for this with it's durability, reliability, accuracy, controllably, and it's 12 round magazine. I think that the pros far outweigh the &amp;quot;cons&amp;quot;, how many other ,45 ACP handguns (besides maybe the SIG P220) can get 2 inch groupings at 50 meters right out of the box. Its long 5.9 inch, O-ring equipped barrel combined with it's recoil-reduction buffer (which keeps the muzzle-flip very minimal) is the reason why it's so accurate. I think the Special Forces need to suck it up, because size and weight shouldn't be an issue(unless excessive like the Desert Eagle) when it comes to a highly effective combat pistol. True, I've never held a SOCOM pistol but I doubt it's not nearly as &amp;quot;big a deal&amp;quot; as the Desert Eagle, which fits my hand just fine, and I'm just a skinny white guy that's 6 feet tall and weighs less than 180 lbs!&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm 6'4 and 150lbs. While the MK23 may be a combat handgun, doesn't mean that its the best or good. Its a sidearm, not a main arm so why would you really want 2&amp;quot; groupings at 50 yards, that range you should be using your main arm. The closet I've come to a MK23 was a airsoft gun and its huge, there is no need for a SIDEARM to be that big. If the experts don't like it, than why do you?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:08, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If FiveTwoSeven would think back to the beginning of the conversation you will see that I never actually SAID that the IMI Desert Eagle was a combat handgun. You keep saying &amp;quot;it's not a combat handgun, it's not a combat handgun&amp;quot; but honestly I don't know why the hell you believe that's what I think.O_o Beats me where you got that from. And about the MK23's weight, no-one else seems to be complaining. You obviously think that the 9mm is best, well, i'm not going to destroy your delusions, &lt;br /&gt;
it's your loss. In reference to a previous comment, by &amp;quot;full-size assault rifle&amp;quot; i mean not a &amp;quot;Short Assaut Rifle&amp;quot;, or SAR. Plenty of them exist. For example the Micro Galil, Colt Commando, and AK 74U. And yes, i have shot a full=size assault rifle. I'm in the Army Cadets and havefired the Steyr F88 AUG 5.56x45mm, both with blanks and live ammunition. And thank you to all the people on my side of the argument, good to see some people have the right idea.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 08:57, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Carlos's handguns */&lt;/p&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
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What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:( --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only when your out of 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:FiveTwoSeven is right on the money. Desert Eagles might beat 9mm if you're hunting rhinos or grizzly bears or something, but otherwise, they're a bulky, heavy, oversized gun firing unnecessarily big bullets. Hate to tell you man, but the real world doesn't work like Call of Duty, there's NO real world military or police force that carries the DE, while there are tons carrying 9mm pistols. And there's a reason for that. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)                                                &lt;br /&gt;
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The Desert Eagle may be over-powered, but the 9mm is definatly under-powered. You could hit an enemy 4-5 times and not take them out, but with the Desert Eagle you only need 1 shot. And please don't tell me your a &amp;quot;9mm all the way&amp;quot;, because there are more calibres that are better than the 9mm than there are worse, by far. (.41AE, 10mm Auto, 9x21mmIMI, and of course .45 ACP, plus all the magnums .357 and .44 are better by my books.)And no, i don't think the world works like COD4, because i have found more mistakes with the firearms than you could ever imagine. Ditto for MW2. I wish i had had a say in the making of the games, i would have changed a lot. sorry if i caused offence.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I take it that you come from video games and know little about real guns. 9mm is perfectly fine for anything related to personal defence. One very well known writer that also lives in my home state New Hampshire, Massod Ayoob, is a retired police officer. He is VERY experianced with guns and in fact &amp;quot;gunfighting&amp;quot; aswell. He has actually been in real gun fights. He writes alot about gun fights where someone had to draw their weapon. He is by definition a true expert on guns. He packs a 9mm daily. Would he if it took several rounds to do what one round of .45 could do? No he wouldn't. There has been one account of someone that was shot 4 times with a .45 and walked out of the hospital a few hours later and many other accounts where someone was shot once with a 9mm and was dead before he hit the ground. One gun high as a kite on meth was shot 6 times with a .41 magnum and kept fighting and took getting run over the the LEO's partner with the cruiser and he was still trying to fight even with the vehicle over him .41 AE is a near obsolete round, 9x21 is extremely uncommon, and 10mm is uncommon to a point. The desert eagle is NOT a fighting handgun, way to big and unwieldy. Also putting trust into a large round to stop someone kinda says that you don't trust your self to hit him somewhere vital and you hope that he drops dead. Getting hit once with a .50 AE doesn't garentee a one shot stop. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Everything the above guy said is dead on the money. And anyway Gunmaster, if the DE is so much better than a 9mm handgun, I'll reiterate-why do NO military or law enforcement agencies in the world carry them, yet many still carry 9mm weapons? Even units who have the freedom to choose their own sidearms do not carry Desert Eagles, why do you think that is? Sure, you can argue that 9mm isn't the best round in the world and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that a 9mm handgun is STILL better for combat use than a DE, unless your definition of &amp;quot;combat&amp;quot; includes shootouts with elephants or something. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 08:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay for starters don't get worked up, I'm not trying to start a 9mm/other calibres war.....&lt;br /&gt;
And no, I didn't get anything  know about guns from video games. I have just always had an interest in firearms for the last 8 years of my life, since age 8 all the while I've simply been gathering information through good old books. I can promise you that you'd be surprised. No shit, you ask me a question about any weapons specifications I can answer it. Without Google.&lt;br /&gt;
Now, the 9x19mm Luger Parabellum round has many advantages, such as ammunition capacity, but it is seriously lacking in power, fair and square.&lt;br /&gt;
But as a military calibre, things such as capacity may be an issue. Take the Colt M1911 .45 ACP (11.43x23mm) pistol. The .45 round is the optimal military calibre in terms of power, but that particular weapon takes only 7 rounds. Most weapons in that calibre can't take high amounts of ammunition, and at the time of the XM9 handgun trials Beretta and SIG-Sauer took the spotlight, ruining the chances of weapons like the Spanish Star &amp;quot;Megastar&amp;quot; .45ACP, and the HK MK 23 MOD 0 SOCOM .45ACP. Those ones can take 12 rounds of ammunition. And my definition of combat includes circumstances that can never be forseen. Thus you must always be prepared. If I was put on the battlefield with one handgun of my choice it would definatly and without a doubt be a Hecklar &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23 Model 0 .45.Comparativly puny Glock 17s, Berreta M92-SB-Fs, and USP-9s wouldn't come close. But don't get me wrong, 9mms have their time and place. It can sometimes come down to personal preference; mine just doesn't run to the 9mm Parabellum round. One more thing, my views on the 9mm are much different when your talking sub-machine guns. I would never diss the HK MP5, it's variants, the IMI Uzi, it's variants, and definatly not the Steyr AUG Para SMG.&lt;br /&gt;
About the Desert Eagle not being in service anywhere, it's obvious the NATO countries would look to their own country's weapons before adopting an Israeli weapon, and after the Glock started getting used by &amp;quot;over 65% of the world's military and police forces&amp;quot; as they claim, Israel decided to as well. Anyway I respect your argument but I hope you can also respect mine --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing how you like the MK23 it definatly shows where you come from. If you were to hang around a non HK-biased gun board like TheHighRoad.org, you would know that its a huge over priced pistol. The Desert Eagle is FAR FROM A COMBAT PISTOL PERIOD. Not even the country that made it issues it. &amp;lt;-------- Read that. Judging by your weapon choices I see that you come from Rainbow 6 Vegas, not real life. Although FMJ 9mm isn't the best I know that but when you can have hollow points its perfectly fine. If I were to fight in a official Military force I would carry either a SIG Sauer P220, FNP 45 or I would still pack my 9mm Hi Power. The MK23 is one of the SOCOM issue weapons yet it is rarely carried, why you may ask? Because its do big and unwieldy. The Navy SEALs have choosen the 9mm P226 over a .40 or a .45 because its shot placement. By the time you lug your MK23 or Desert Eagle out of the holster I would have already draw and double tapped you with my Hi Power.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, let's get something straight. I DO NOT GET MY WEAPON KNOWLAGE OR PREFERENCES FROM VIDEO GAMES. I've never played rainbow 6. i will say this though, good on you for your choice of the SIG-Sauer, best quality gun brand i think. I'm not HK-biased, i just know that in a firefight between a 12 round .45 MK 23 and say as you said a 13 round 9mm Browning, the Mk 23 owner would have the edge. And about the SIG having better shot placement...you can get the P220 in .45, .357SIG, and .40 S&amp;amp;W...all of these would be better than the 9mm version except for capacity. And just one more thing.....have you ever fired a full size assault rifle in real life, not COD4? Just curious--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 18:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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When making actor's pages, please follow the proper format already established.  I've corrected the [[Spencer Locke]] page for you to use as a template in the future.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks a lot, i appreciate it.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:40, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Carlos's handguns */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
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::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:( --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only when your out of 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:FiveTwoSeven is right on the money. Desert Eagles might beat 9mm if you're hunting rhinos or grizzly bears or something, but otherwise, they're a bulky, heavy, oversized gun firing unnecessarily big bullets. Hate to tell you man, but the real world doesn't work like Call of Duty, there's NO real world military or police force that carries the DE, while there are tons carrying 9mm pistols. And there's a reason for that. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)                                                &lt;br /&gt;
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The Desert Eagle may be over-powered, but the 9mm is definatly under-powered. You could hit an enemy 4-5 times and not take them out, but with the Desert Eagle you only need 1 shot. And please don't tell me your a &amp;quot;9mm all the way&amp;quot;, because there are more calibres that are better than the 9mm than there are worse, by far. (.41AE, 10mm Auto, 9x21mmIMI, and of course .45 ACP, plus all the magnums .357 and .44 are better by my books.)And no, i don't think the world works like COD4, because i have found more mistakes with the firearms than you could ever imagine. Ditto for MW2. I wish i had had a say in the making of the games, i would have changed a lot. sorry if i caused offence.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I take it that you come from video games and know little about real guns. 9mm is perfectly fine for anything related to personal defence. One very well known writer that also lives in my home state New Hampshire, Massod Ayoob, is a retired police officer. He is VERY experianced with guns and in fact &amp;quot;gunfighting&amp;quot; aswell. He has actually been in real gun fights. He writes alot about gun fights where someone had to draw their weapon. He is by definition a true expert on guns. He packs a 9mm daily. Would he if it took several rounds to do what one round of .45 could do? No he wouldn't. There has been one account of someone that was shot 4 times with a .45 and walked out of the hospital a few hours later and many other accounts where someone was shot once with a 9mm and was dead before he hit the ground. One gun high as a kite on meth was shot 6 times with a .41 magnum and kept fighting and took getting run over the the LEO's partner with the cruiser and he was still trying to fight even with the vehicle over him .41 AE is a near obsolete round, 9x21 is extremely uncommon, and 10mm is uncommon to a point. The desert eagle is NOT a fighting handgun, way to big and unwieldy. Also putting trust into a large round to stop someone kinda says that you don't trust your self to hit him somewhere vital and you hope that he drops dead. Getting hit once with a .50 AE doesn't garentee a one shot stop. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Everything the above guy said is dead on the money. And anyway Gunmaster, if the DE is so much better than a 9mm handgun, I'll reiterate-why do NO military or law enforcement agencies in the world carry them, yet many still carry 9mm weapons? Even units who have the freedom to choose their own sidearms do not carry Desert Eagles, why do you think that is? Sure, you can argue that 9mm isn't the best round in the world and that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that a 9mm handgun is STILL better for combat use than a DE, unless your definition of &amp;quot;combat&amp;quot; includes shootouts with elephants or something. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 08:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay for starters don't get worked up, I'm not trying to start a 9mm/other calibres war.....&lt;br /&gt;
And no, I didn't get anything  know about guns from video games. I have just always had an interest in firearms for the last 8 years of my life, since age 8 all the while I've simply been gathering information through good old books. I can promise you that you'd be surprised. No shit, you ask me a question about any weapons specifications I can answer it. Without Google.&lt;br /&gt;
Now, the 9x19mm Luger Parabellum round has many advantages, such as ammunition capacity, but it is seriously lacking in power, fair and square.&lt;br /&gt;
But as a military calibre, things such as capacity may be an issue. Take the Colt M1911 .45 ACP (11.43x23mm) pistol. The .45 round is the optimal military calibre in terms of power, but that particular weapon takes only 7 rounds. Most weapons in that calibre can't take high amounts of ammunition, and at the time of the XM9 handgun trials Beretta and SIG-Sauer took the spotlight, ruining the chances of weapons like the Spanish Star &amp;quot;Megastar&amp;quot; .45ACP, and the HK MK 23 MOD 0 SOCOM .45ACP. Those ones can take 12 rounds of ammunition. And my definition of combat includes circumstances that can never be forseen. Thus you must always be prepared. If I was put on the battlefield with one handgun of my choice it would definatly and without a doubt be a Hecklar &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23 Model 0 .45.Comparativly puny Glock 17s, Berreta M92-SB-Fs, and USP-9s wouldn't come close. But don't get me wrong, 9mms have their time and place. It can sometimes come down to personal preference; mine just doesn't run to the 9mm Parabellum round. One more thing, my views on the 9mm are much different when your talking sub-machine guns. I would never diss the HK MP5, it's variants, the IMI Uzi, it's variants, and definatly not the Steyr AUG Para SMG.&lt;br /&gt;
About the Desert Eagle not being in service anywhere, it's obvious the NATO countries would look to their own country's weapons before adopting an Israeli weapon, and after the Glock started getting used by &amp;quot;over 65% of the world's military and police forces&amp;quot; as they claim, Israel decided to as well. Anyway I respect your argument but I hope you can also respect mine --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 15:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Page Making==&lt;br /&gt;
Two problems. You need to go on IMDb and find the correct title, and spell the title properly when you make a page. And two, actor pages do not require you to add JUST character and movies, the point of the pages is to list the guns the actor has used. IMDb already lists all the movies actors are in, so we don't (http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Ben41&amp;amp;action=editand won't) have to. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Band of Brothers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for inserting information onto the page such as characters, situations, episodes, etc. It looks much more cleaned up now! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 19:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==U571==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the screencaps.  Just a reminder.  Be sure to identify who is on screen and what they are doing in the shot.  Also identify which actors used which guns.  That is really important information for the individual actor's pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excellent! Great work! Thanks! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Great work on all the screencaps and contributions you've so far, but I must insist that you try to follow format:&lt;br /&gt;
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*(1.) Always include gun pictures along with the screencaps from the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
*(2.) Always make sure you link to the gun pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to save time, you can just go to a page for another movie in which the same gun appears, and copy and paste the code from that page to save time.  If I'm doing a page for a movie that has a SIG-Sauer P226, for example, I will just go to a page that has the same gun (like ''[[Air Force One]]''), copy the entry, and then change the code as needed.  It's a good habit to get into, and it's important for this site's completeness and cohesion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, and again, great work so far. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:36, 2 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks I'll try. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the input, I'll try and include the gun pictures as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey Ben ==&lt;br /&gt;
I was wondering if i could redo your page for [[Rules of Engagement]]. I dont want to step on any toes, but with your permission, I'll make it look real pretty. :) -[[User:The_Winchester|Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want redo the descriptions, that's fine.   I just pretty much did the screen caps.   [[User:Ben41|Ben41]]  14 Oct 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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==Your screencaps are too big==&lt;br /&gt;
Gorgeous work on the Dark Knight Blu-ray pics .... BUT ... 1925 pixels across?!?!?! 925KB sized files?!?!?!?!  These MUST be shrunk down in that the original size won't be looked at full resolution anyway and they are taking up way too much space.  Have you noticed how long it takes for these images to be loaded when clicking on the page?  I know that some of our veteran members (and mods) sometimes upload gigantic images, but I think yours are now the biggest on the site.  Please make them smaller to allow quick loading of your page.  Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 14:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll make sure the rest of the pics I'll upload are smaller in size, but I think the reason it's still loading slow is because the majority of the pics are still PNG's.  I'm trying to replace them, but there's a lot of pictures.   --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robocop ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, great job at improving the screencaps on the [[Robocop]] page. They look great now! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 08:10, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, still a work in progress, but I really wanted to up the quality of the pics.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Heat screencaps==&lt;br /&gt;
Were those taken from a Blu-ray? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, these caps are from the Special Edition DVD. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:01, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, did you mess with the color? The reason I ask is the new pic you uploaded of DeNiro seems to have more grain in the pic.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Heat-M16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Your pic.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HT-00001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A quick one I took]]&lt;br /&gt;
It's not the same exact frame but close. My DVD is the '05 Two-Disc Special Edition. Also when someone sends you a message on your talk page, you reply back on theirs. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I use the VLC too. I never tried saving them to PNG first then the JPEG. I may try that. Also I uploaded a new version of my cap. It's the same frame now. The first one I took was a little bit after. Some of the shots you took look better than others. The shot of Pacino and Studi in elevator looks great, more color.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Unit==&lt;br /&gt;
Please tell me you're going to replace all of the older pics with your newer more awesome pics.  That will motivate me to get more screen used guns for the page. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:42, 22 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==.PNG Images==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have always used .PNGs in lieu of .Jpegs because, while they are bigger, they are of superior quality, especially when it comes to thumbnails. Therefore, identifying guns is easier as the images are clearer. Since the rules, standards and principles insists on space conserving .jpeg images, the Carlito's way page will probably be the last one I do using .PNGs. I decided this yesterday before you sent me this and just didn't think it was worth announcing, and the only reason the Carlito's Way images are .PNGs is because I was halfway done with doing them all when I picked up my work yesterday. Needless to say I'll conform to the rules this time, so long as the quality of the screencaps doesn't suffer too much. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 22:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Problem with the Pirates pages==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for asking ahead of time :)   But I hate those pages.  There is little we can identify other than 'flintlock pistol, 'flintlock musket', 'flintlock blunderbuss', etc.  It's crap.  We can offer no other information other than what is completely obvious to the audience.  Gee. Jack Sparrow uses a flintlock pistol.  So what?  They didn't need US to tell them that.  And if we cannot identify what make, model of pistol (which is hard since so many are custom), then it is a complete waste of IMFDB server space to have the page.  I'm going to go on a deletion spree for all the lame pages with no screencaps on them.    It's a part of the rules and standards, that bad pages are NOT better than no pages at all.  Lame pages, especially lots of them, makes us look bad.  Good thing you're trying to fix a bunch of the bad existing pages.   I wish more members did that rather than create endless NEW pages that are lame.   [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aliens==&lt;br /&gt;
I wasn't sure if you were going to be adding anymore pics to the page. I added 3 screencaps, I have a few others that can be added too if you're finshed. I had already capped the film the same time I uploaded the behind the scenes images. Which was at the end of Nov. but I didn't get off my ass and upload them so you beat me to it. Which is no big deal.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stargate==&lt;br /&gt;
:I've noticed that the screencaps that you upload are much brighter/clearer than mine -are you using Blu Ray? --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Interpreter==&lt;br /&gt;
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The rifle you see in this picture is the exact same one that was used in ''[[The Interpreter]]''.  I got the picture from the web site of Weapons Specialists, Ltd. in New York, which is the company that supplied the weapons to the production.  So it's a safe bet that this exact gun is the one from the movie.  You can see it's the same configuration and everything.  This same gun was also used in ''[[Lord of War]]'' (another movie for which Weapons Specialists supplied guns).&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the AK rifle in the movie is an AK-47, not an AKM (and most likely, it's a converted Poly Tech Legend). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:22, 9 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== White Hunter Black Heart ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm into double rifles. Hope you weren't offended by my post on the discussion page, but it's fairly common for folks to mistake a double rifle for a double shotgun.I used to until a few years ago whne I set out to educate myself.Unfortunately it's all book learning. Personally I would love to own a double rifle - even a German double. But the German rifles start at $10,000 and go up to $20,000. The British doubles start at approximately $70,000 and go as high as $250,000. *Sigh* &lt;br /&gt;
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I have the soul of a snob and the bank account of a working class joe. Oh well. The page looks good by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Last Samurai==&lt;br /&gt;
WOW!  Great work on the replacement screenshots!!!!!! are those Blu-ray?  Stunning!  Now I need to secretly ask you to fix some of the popular (but poorly screencapped) pages ;)  nudge nudge wink wink .....  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:41, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, per IMFDB rules, you can replace existing screenshots with your much superior widescreenshots.  Some of the pages you've worked on, you seem hesitant to replace the crappier pics.  By ALL MEANS replace the crappier pics!  Great screenshots are a wonder to behold.  Like [[Eraser]], i hope you can replace the full screen caps.  No one can complain.  The rules say that Widescreen are preferable to fullscreen. :)  Also, do you check the forum?  I was hoping to PM you there. Send me a PM there so I can reply to it. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Extreme Prejudice==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for redoing those caps. Gunmaster45 uploaded them for me before I knew I how to do them myself. Also I had figured Atwater's pistol was a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 39, not a Commander. But I couldn't tell enough from my cap. Since you redid it, it's clear. I really need to start messing with the colors on the VLC payer like you talked about. I pretty sure there is only one dvd version of Extreme Prejudice. Also there is an M60 used by the cartel in the final shootout that I missed. I think they are killed by Atwater. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:22, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W39-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 39-2 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EP-ColtCommander-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Buck Atwater puts down his Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 39 after the car is wrecked while fleeing the bank robbery.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Alright you must a magic setting when it comes to adjusting the colors on the VLC. I was able to make them better that what it was but still not as sharp.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EP-S&amp;amp;W629-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|old stock settings]]&lt;br /&gt;
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What adjustment am I missing? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:20, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==VLC setting==&lt;br /&gt;
Deinterlace? Where is that at? I didn't see it in Video effects. I messed with the gamma some. Maybe I need to use it more instead of brightness. What about hue and contrast also? Thanks for your help on this. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Edit found Deinterlace. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Man I tried to get the adjustments right. I give up. Have fun doing the rest of the Extreme Prejudice page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:49, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Burn Notice==&lt;br /&gt;
Your Burn Notice stuff is looking fantastic! Great screen caps and information, keep it up! --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, you've really filled out the page.  It was a mess before you started working on it, but now it looks a lot better.  I was actually planning to do some work on it for a while, but your screencaps are much higher-quality than mine, and so far, it's coming out great anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hi and thanx...==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it and from now on will do screencaps with VLC... :)&lt;br /&gt;
But if you're referring to the [[Universal Soldier: Regeneration]] screencaps, I am not the one responsible for those ones... I'm just now gonna upload my screencaps and remove those ols trailer caps... [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 13:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==HD and MM quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hi, you need to categorize your pic uploads==&lt;br /&gt;
Great job, but when you upload screenshots, you need to put in the Category in double brackets and then put in 'screenshots'.  Check out how other screenshots are 'categorized'.  Thanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE Screencaps ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah the program I have been using is not the best, and I could not change aspect ratio settings for some reason. I just downloaded the VLC player that you wrote about on your main page. I will try using it and if it works out fine then Ill probably go back and rescreencap pages Ive don in wide screen. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 21:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Don't change the Categorization of the Batman movies==&lt;br /&gt;
Those were done so that the movies will appear in the order they were made.  Thanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I checked the page edit history.  You were the one who changed the &amp;quot;Category: Movie | Batman 2&amp;quot; etc to just &amp;quot;Category:Movie&amp;quot;.  Don't do that.  the Batman 2,3,4, etc. was done intentionally so that the titles sorted by their cinematic order, not by pure alphabetical order.  We did the same thing to the blade Series of movies.  Done purely by alphabetical sorting, Blade Trinity would be listed AHEAD of the first Blade movie rather than third.  Hope that helps, but these specific page edits were done for a specific reason.  thanks for your cooperation. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 10:00, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Marked for Death==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm glad to see someone is doing a page for this movie!&lt;br /&gt;
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That being said, Hatcher's 1911 in the movie is not an SVI (I don't think those even existed when the movie was made).  We had a topic about this in the forum, but the 1911 in the movie is a Federal Ordnance PSP-07.  It's mentioned in the credits for the movie.  Check out the forum topic here:&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the H&amp;amp;K automatic weapon used by Hatcher is not an HK53 (in fact, it's not even a .223-caliber weapon, if you look at the magazine).  It is called the &amp;quot;HK51K&amp;quot;, and it's a custom G3 conversion done by Bill Fleming, a Class III manufacturer.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Enhanced image request==&lt;br /&gt;
Could you enhance this image from Dirty Harry. The reason I ask is to better see the magnum markings. This one guy keeps changing it to a Model 57 a 41 magnum. It looks like it reads 44 magnum on the barrel. But an enhanced image would make it read better. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. I have the newer box set too. But you usually have a way of making them appear a little bit better. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Pacific ==&lt;br /&gt;
So, where did you get access to those high resolution screencaps?--[[Special:Contributions/189.34.128.142|189.34.128.142]] 19:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The trailers are available on Youtube HD.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Eiger Sanction ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'v made a couple changes. Hemlock is actually using a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 40]] and not a Model 49 Bodyguard. Also the henchman is using hwat appears to be a snubby [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] instead of the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] snubbie. If you look closely at the screencap you will notice no adjustable sights. The revolver appears to have fixed or duty sights which would make it the Model 10. Also I went ahead and listed the weapons used by Hemlock on [[Clint Eastwood]] 's page. And also showed on the respective firearms pages. But nevertheless it's good work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Great work on Waterworld==&lt;br /&gt;
I hope you finish the page. :)  There are many dressed up guns in that movie.  Alas, most of the weapons were changed back after the movie was over, but I can see what I can get from Syd Stembridge regarding what guns still exist that appeared in that movie.  Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==EP==&lt;br /&gt;
Since you're still in the process of replacing images, could you replace the one below?&lt;br /&gt;
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With the guy above firing a MAC-10. Don't really need two images back to back with Clancy Brown. Thanks. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Richard Attenborough Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
thanks for upgrading it. I had run out of time and had to go to work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quigly Poster ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I like the image of the movie poster. Nice. Really added to the page. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE == &lt;br /&gt;
I actually created disambiguation pages for CSI and Delta Force to make page navigation easier. I will try to make as many such pages I can, since unlike Wikipedia, page navigation needs a lot of improvement because sometimes even if we type the proper page name in the search box, we get the result not found.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 10:41, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Actor's Pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the heads up, Ben. I agree that the pages look ''much'' better in the table format, but I've seen several different examples on different pages in terms of what column is which, so I figured I'd leave them in the basic format. However, it seems that now we've reached a more streamlined pattern (such as on the page you alerted me to), so I'll be sure to follow that from then on. On a side note, all of your pages look great, the screencaps are very sharp! Nice work! --[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Writing spoilers==&lt;br /&gt;
On the [[A Perfect Getaway]] page it would hard to write what's going on without spoiling anything. GM45 came up with this on the [[Se7en]] page and I have used it on several pages.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:55, 20 April 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seven-SAM1911-A1-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Highlight for Spoilers:''' &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Write spoiler text here.&amp;lt;/font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Format ==&lt;br /&gt;
Sure I can do that. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Actor page response==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, but I'm not that familiar with that format.  I know enough about it to modify and add to pages already using that template but have never created one from scratch. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==New pages==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, Ben41! :)  You're an awesome screencapper and page fixer, but, please, don't create multiple new pages with no screen caps.  At least have some of the graphics ready to roll BEFORE the page is rolled out.  Creating new pages with no screenshots or graphics inspires other (less capable page makers) to create scads of new empty pages with only gun listings.  Thanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:42, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:BTW I have 100% confidence that '''you''' will populate the page with great caps, but the worry is that others will do the first part and not the second part.  thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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==We Were Soldiers==&lt;br /&gt;
I love your HD screencaps.  And I know that you have the discipline to put in an appropriate number of screencaps.  Heck you can replace even the ones I put in.  LOL.  It's all about the quality of the pics and the page.  I'm just trying to get rid of the full screen caps which I dislike.  Anyway, I know you're busy so I started working on the page - it being one of the most VIEWED pages on IMFDB.  Did you notice I added more SCREEN USED hero guns to the page? ;)  I can probably get more in the future when I  have time.  I just have to check with Mike Papac as to what guns were used on the production (but that takes time and checking records, etc.).  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks for the help on WWS==&lt;br /&gt;
Your screencaps look awesome.  A little favor though. We're trying to keep the screencaps from between 7-10 per section.  I was going to cull the XM16 page, but since you did an awesome job of replacing the full screen shots, I was hoping you would do the honors.  A big criticism of the page when it was done earlier was the overuse of screenshots (the XM16 page had 33 screencaps at one point).  Thanks again for your great work on the page.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User: 99.12.124.133 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent him a final warning, if he doesn't listen this time, he's gone for good. By the way, excellent work replacing screencaps all over IMFDB with much better ones, you have improved many pages on here alot. Keep up the good work, and let me know if you need anything.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:54, 8 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE: Thanks for the comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sure, I'll delete them when you start.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Virtuosity==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Ben, good work on ''[[Virtuosity]]'', but I have a question.  Do you have screenshots of the following characters/weapons from the movie:&lt;br /&gt;
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If you don't mind grabbing these screencaps, I'd appreciate it.  It would complete the page.  Gracias. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks!  Also, I think the subguns used in the movie may be [[Walther MPL]] or MPK, not Franchi LF-57s (I started a discussion about it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Some Last of the Mohicans guns==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey there. Glad to see how much work you've done on the page. :)  I had some pics of some of the background muskets (used by civilians and indians) that were 'rescued' from the production by one of the gunsmiths I knew who worked on the picture.  As you know, the vast majority of the guns were destroyed during the filming (the stuntmen pretty much used their muskets as clubs in most of the fight scenes) and over 400 Brown Bess muskets were destroyed.  I have a pic of two background guns.  Is there any screenshot which may have these in them?  I know they were for  background people.  One is a modern repro of a common commercial flintlock firearm of the time period, the other is known as a trade gun, i.e. a lesser quality flintlock that had less parts and craftsmanship, developed specifically for trade with the Indians (i.e. they let the 'locals' get the more cheaply made muskets).  Anyway, just wondering if you thought we should add this to your excellent page. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LastOfMohicans Musket2.jpg‎ |thumb|none|700px|Last of the Mohicans background screen musket]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually those were real firing muskets (modern replicas) of civilian muskets, so they were issued to the Colonists volunteers to represent 'private purchase' weapons of the civilians.  The Trade muskets were issued to allied Indians to the British Army as they were the 18th century equivalent of 'lend lease' to friendly Indian tribes.  They were indeed fired.  All non-firing guns were rubber.  The reason why so many guns were destroyed was that after 2 weeks of filming a lot of the actors and stuntmen and background extras were really banging on each other with the guns as clubs during the many days of 'hand to hand fighting' filming.    I suspect the filmmakers expected this since the production '''purchased''' the muskets, they didn't rent the majority of them, except for select hero guns.  Thanks.  So the info on the movie page isn't quite right. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wild Geese II ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for adding to this page, ive been looking for stuff on that Safari Arms pistol for so long now. Do you plan to add screencaps?--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 21:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Kuffs==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed you did the caps for Kuffs. Do you still have the movie? A quote could be added to the template. Slater says something like &amp;quot;I need a really big gun that holds lots of bullets&amp;quot; The gun clerk explains the Beretta and Slater says he'll take two. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==House==&lt;br /&gt;
The Glock Eleas Koteas holds has a rail so it's a 3rd gen, but also Koteas has big hands.  Do you think the gun looks like a .45 cap?   [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 12:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: 24 - Season 5 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still working on 24 - Season 5. Unlike most users I don't submit or save my work until it's completely done but I'll just save the first 8 episodes now that your asking. I've been stuck on Kalashnikov variants in the first 4 episodes that's why i haven't finished yet. - [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 14:02, 15 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Those black sidebars only occur during the first 3 episodes. I think those are caused by the DVDs since I am using VLC Media Player. As you could see I've decided to finish up [[24 - Season 5|Season 5]] since someone already have been posting low res screencaps and not leaving much detail like I did in [[24 - Season 7|Season 7]]. Can you help identifying the AK Variants when I'm done with episode 4. I think if I do one episode per day so I could get much more done. I can't make the caps any brighter since they've already been sitting in My Pictures for 3 months. But I look forward to doing seasons 4, 6, and 8. - [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 22:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==RoboCop==&lt;br /&gt;
Do you plan on adding any more caps to it? Emil Antonowsky ([[Paul McCrane]]) uses the Ithca 37 to shoot Murphy in the warehouse and some shots of him could be added. I have the dvd and can add them, but if you're still working on the page. I'll let you take care of it.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah looks like a TEC-9 mini.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also some more shots of Kurtwood with his &amp;quot;Sidewinder&amp;quot; would be good too and some with his Desert Eagle. Also a shot of Ronny Cox with the Desert Eagle at the end.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Missing In Action==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Ben,&lt;br /&gt;
I was screencapping [[Missing In Action]]. Unfortunatly i didn't finish before you started adding screencaps.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks, The one computer i have that can do screencaps sucks but I really do need to learn  how to properly use VCl. After Missing in Action I was going to do Delta Force 2 and the the rutger Hauer film Wanted Dead or Alive.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::My computer is chokeing up on VCL. if you have any more Missing In action images post them. I was also going to do Delta Force 2 but given my limitations that's out for now.[[Special:Contributions/69.232.200.58|69.232.200.58]] 04:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==RE: Crossing Over==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I was gonna say...rapid turn-around!  Anyway, now that I've seen the ones you uploaded, they're of better quality than mine, so I'd rather leave it to you (plus, it ensures that the quality will be consistent).  That sound good? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A-Team Page episode titles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know what is standart procedure, but should the episode titles be in italics or in quotation marks? I personally prefer italics. It looks better. -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, I will go through the article and change the titles. Thanks for the answer!  -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==PNGs replaced with JPGs==&lt;br /&gt;
I reuploaded the images as jpgs with proper tags, but how would I go about deleting the pngs? --[[User:Damaku250|Damaku250]] 19:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The film page template==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed that you changed the template for [[The American]].  That template has an interesting history.  I've never used it because I was one of the early ones who didn't like that formatting change.  Some users created a template that had the poster line BELOW the summary line amongst other slight changes.  There was no consensus.  I think just one person came up with it and used it.  But I always did it the way that Bunni did it.  The majority of the site was Bunni's way.  But ever since one of the Mods made their own 'user's template' people have started changing pages to conform with it, which I never agreed with.  Just letting you know, as a mod, I've always been changing them back to the original style from when the site first began.    I still think the poster should be aligned top most and to the upper rightmost corner of the page to start with, which means the poster image line should be first on the page, just because that's the way 90% of the site was when it first started and I thought it looked best.  Just thought I'd give you some of the interesting background history, (and why most of the pages which I work on are changed to that way, moreso if I did all the work on the page, which I did NOT on [[The American]] which is someone else's page.  :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Since you started the page and put all the screencaps up, I defer to your preference.  :)  Which is what I said previously, but on my pages I prefer the old style. :)       [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Jesse Ventura==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm not one to trust Wikipedia. Ventura might have served in Vietnam, but is said not to have saw actual combat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura#Navy_career Otherwise I would have included him when I wrote up the Richard Chaves page. I was wanting to do more research into Ventura's military career. Ventura is a veteran though. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also before I build an actor page I search their name before I build the article, take Melanie Griffith she also used a SIG P230 in Season 3 of Miami Vice.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:08, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I thinking the wording Chaves' page should be: &amp;quot;Best known for his role as Poncho in Predator, Richard served in the Army's 101st Airborne Division, he is one of two actors in the film that served in the Vietnam War. The other being Jesse Ventura who served in the Navy's UDT.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Alt wording could be &amp;quot;Best known for his role as Poncho in Predator, Richard served in the Army's 101st Airborne Division, he is one of two actors in the film that are Vietnam veterans. The other being Jesse Ventura who served in the Navy's UDT.&amp;quot; Or if you can think of better wording, go for it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Miami Vice vs 24==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm going to wrap up season four of Vice probably next week. Then I'll get started on season five. When that gets finished we'll be able to do an accurate count on the total number of different guns used. You can go ahead do a count on 24 if you want and see where it's at. Also don't just add the number of guns per season together. A Beretta 92FS counts once not eight times. If we did that 24 would be at 234 and Miami Vice would be at 195 currently with a season and a half to go. I think Vice was at 100+ different guns before the page was split into seasons. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Reupping a-team image  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It´ll have to wait till Friday. I´ll get it done then.--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Sorry for the delay. Was away for longer then I expected. The [[A-Team%2C_The#Ruger_Mini_14_Stainless_version_with_Folding_stock|image]] has been replaced. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cherry 2000==&lt;br /&gt;
You're doing great work but you're doing too many pages at one time. I clicked on one of the images you uploaded for the film a few weeks back. It was Ben Johnson holding a SAA (I'll always remember him from The Wild Bunch), I checked the paged today it wasn't on there. I went through your uploads and found it along with another that had Brion James with a Winchester 1897. I put them on the page. You may want check your other films and see if any images are missing. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Kingdom ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any specific reason why you reverted the close-up of Sykes with the 91? And the one of the MP5? Your over-brightened (and sorta yellow-ish) shots aren't exactly better. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 12:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I personally cant see the point of using your 91 pic over the new one. It´s more detailed and you get to see the stock fully. Though in retrospective reverting the MP5 picture was a good idea indeed. And the whole .png to .jpg thing isn´t necessary for me. I own Photoshop, so I can regulate the quality of my .jpg´s fully (which is also the reason why all my uploads until yesterday were so big, I only started to use lower compression then)..--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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VLC never made it darker for me. Are you sure that you have the video effects off? It might also simply be your screen. The brightness differs heavily between different models (there´s a massive gap between my laptop and my gaming rig in terms of contrast). --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Good Work ==&lt;br /&gt;
You're doing good work. Remember to link the movies to the guns or is that link the guns to the movies. Nevertheless keep it up. Thanks for the help.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Using Photoshop ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sounds overly complicated to me. I take the caps, work up the quality a bit, resize and save with quality compression 10. It works well enough. Though I am open to any kind of advice. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I was planning on redoing those, but lost interest that very same day. You can redo them if you want. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:18, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jesse Stone ==&lt;br /&gt;
Yes but I have no definite timetable. If you want to do it go for it. My ego won't be bruised. On the other hand you suck for updating [[Fort Apache, The Bronx]]. LOL. I've been planning on doing an upgrade, but I was going to borrow my father's DVD and I'm not going to be seeing him until October. But perhaps I'll see if I can get some screencaps to add at that time. As you probably noticed I've been tinkering with that page over the past couple years. It needs some work. Good job. And you are welcome. Also right back at you. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:46, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay. Not a problem. And yes I've read that there is another Stone movie coming out this year. I believe they've already filmed it. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Admin==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Ben, the thought just occurred to me...you are WAY overdue for an Administrator position offer.  Have any of the other Admins offered you the position yet?  You've been doing a lot of work on this site for a long time, so I think you've earned it.  If you want the job, I will gladly email Bunni and ask him to promote you. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guess we're getting promoted. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been invited as well. I put your name in, but it looks like somebody beat me to it. Congrats.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== All hail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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our new Ben41 admin overlord. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 16:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Carnosaur 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, [[Carnosaur 3: Primal Species|it's]] been taken care of. How's it look now? I've also added a section about two pistols that have been at the beginning and end of the movie, I really can't tell what the are, but I think they either are:&lt;br /&gt;
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#[[Glock|Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Beretta 92 pistol series|M9]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here's the pictures of the pistols:&lt;br /&gt;
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==BTW - a belated Congratulations on your promotion to Mod==&lt;br /&gt;
Now you will have to fight the trolls/idiots/fanboys even MORE! hahahahaha(evil laugh).  Congratulations!!!! MPM&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks man ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for fixing the page I created. Sorry that it wasn't up to scratch. I was just surprised that no-one else had made the page in the three years since the movies release. Appreciate it. (Gunmaster12)--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Page Making==&lt;br /&gt;
Two problems. You need to go on IMDb and find the correct title, and spell the title properly when you make a page. And two, actor pages do not require you to add JUST character and movies, the point of the pages is to list the guns the actor has used. IMDb already lists all the movies actors are in, so we don't (http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Ben41&amp;amp;action=editand won't) have to. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Band of Brothers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for inserting information onto the page such as characters, situations, episodes, etc. It looks much more cleaned up now! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 19:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==U571==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the screencaps.  Just a reminder.  Be sure to identify who is on screen and what they are doing in the shot.  Also identify which actors used which guns.  That is really important information for the individual actor's pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excellent! Great work! Thanks! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hi==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Ben,&lt;br /&gt;
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Great work on all the screencaps and contributions you've so far, but I must insist that you try to follow format:&lt;br /&gt;
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*(1.) Always include gun pictures along with the screencaps from the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
*(2.) Always make sure you link to the gun pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to save time, you can just go to a page for another movie in which the same gun appears, and copy and paste the code from that page to save time.  If I'm doing a page for a movie that has a SIG-Sauer P226, for example, I will just go to a page that has the same gun (like ''[[Air Force One]]''), copy the entry, and then change the code as needed.  It's a good habit to get into, and it's important for this site's completeness and cohesion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, and again, great work so far. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:36, 2 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks I'll try. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the input, I'll try and include the gun pictures as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey Ben ==&lt;br /&gt;
I was wondering if i could redo your page for [[Rules of Engagement]]. I dont want to step on any toes, but with your permission, I'll make it look real pretty. :) -[[User:The_Winchester|Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want redo the descriptions, that's fine.   I just pretty much did the screen caps.   [[User:Ben41|Ben41]]  14 Oct 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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==Your screencaps are too big==&lt;br /&gt;
Gorgeous work on the Dark Knight Blu-ray pics .... BUT ... 1925 pixels across?!?!?! 925KB sized files?!?!?!?!  These MUST be shrunk down in that the original size won't be looked at full resolution anyway and they are taking up way too much space.  Have you noticed how long it takes for these images to be loaded when clicking on the page?  I know that some of our veteran members (and mods) sometimes upload gigantic images, but I think yours are now the biggest on the site.  Please make them smaller to allow quick loading of your page.  Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 14:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll make sure the rest of the pics I'll upload are smaller in size, but I think the reason it's still loading slow is because the majority of the pics are still PNG's.  I'm trying to replace them, but there's a lot of pictures.   --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robocop ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, great job at improving the screencaps on the [[Robocop]] page. They look great now! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 08:10, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, still a work in progress, but I really wanted to up the quality of the pics.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Heat screencaps==&lt;br /&gt;
Were those taken from a Blu-ray? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, these caps are from the Special Edition DVD. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:01, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, did you mess with the color? The reason I ask is the new pic you uploaded of DeNiro seems to have more grain in the pic.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Heat-M16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Your pic.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HT-00001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A quick one I took]]&lt;br /&gt;
It's not the same exact frame but close. My DVD is the '05 Two-Disc Special Edition. Also when someone sends you a message on your talk page, you reply back on theirs. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I use the VLC too. I never tried saving them to PNG first then the JPEG. I may try that. Also I uploaded a new version of my cap. It's the same frame now. The first one I took was a little bit after. Some of the shots you took look better than others. The shot of Pacino and Studi in elevator looks great, more color.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Unit==&lt;br /&gt;
Please tell me you're going to replace all of the older pics with your newer more awesome pics.  That will motivate me to get more screen used guns for the page. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:42, 22 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==.PNG Images==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have always used .PNGs in lieu of .Jpegs because, while they are bigger, they are of superior quality, especially when it comes to thumbnails. Therefore, identifying guns is easier as the images are clearer. Since the rules, standards and principles insists on space conserving .jpeg images, the Carlito's way page will probably be the last one I do using .PNGs. I decided this yesterday before you sent me this and just didn't think it was worth announcing, and the only reason the Carlito's Way images are .PNGs is because I was halfway done with doing them all when I picked up my work yesterday. Needless to say I'll conform to the rules this time, so long as the quality of the screencaps doesn't suffer too much. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 22:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Problem with the Pirates pages==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for asking ahead of time :)   But I hate those pages.  There is little we can identify other than 'flintlock pistol, 'flintlock musket', 'flintlock blunderbuss', etc.  It's crap.  We can offer no other information other than what is completely obvious to the audience.  Gee. Jack Sparrow uses a flintlock pistol.  So what?  They didn't need US to tell them that.  And if we cannot identify what make, model of pistol (which is hard since so many are custom), then it is a complete waste of IMFDB server space to have the page.  I'm going to go on a deletion spree for all the lame pages with no screencaps on them.    It's a part of the rules and standards, that bad pages are NOT better than no pages at all.  Lame pages, especially lots of them, makes us look bad.  Good thing you're trying to fix a bunch of the bad existing pages.   I wish more members did that rather than create endless NEW pages that are lame.   [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aliens==&lt;br /&gt;
I wasn't sure if you were going to be adding anymore pics to the page. I added 3 screencaps, I have a few others that can be added too if you're finshed. I had already capped the film the same time I uploaded the behind the scenes images. Which was at the end of Nov. but I didn't get off my ass and upload them so you beat me to it. Which is no big deal.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stargate==&lt;br /&gt;
:I've noticed that the screencaps that you upload are much brighter/clearer than mine -are you using Blu Ray? --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Interpreter==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Henry US Survival.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Henry US Survival .22 LR with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The rifle you see in this picture is the exact same one that was used in ''[[The Interpreter]]''.  I got the picture from the web site of Weapons Specialists, Ltd. in New York, which is the company that supplied the weapons to the production.  So it's a safe bet that this exact gun is the one from the movie.  You can see it's the same configuration and everything.  This same gun was also used in ''[[Lord of War]]'' (another movie for which Weapons Specialists supplied guns).&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the AK rifle in the movie is an AK-47, not an AKM (and most likely, it's a converted Poly Tech Legend). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:22, 9 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== White Hunter Black Heart ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm into double rifles. Hope you weren't offended by my post on the discussion page, but it's fairly common for folks to mistake a double rifle for a double shotgun.I used to until a few years ago whne I set out to educate myself.Unfortunately it's all book learning. Personally I would love to own a double rifle - even a German double. But the German rifles start at $10,000 and go up to $20,000. The British doubles start at approximately $70,000 and go as high as $250,000. *Sigh* &lt;br /&gt;
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I have the soul of a snob and the bank account of a working class joe. Oh well. The page looks good by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Last Samurai==&lt;br /&gt;
WOW!  Great work on the replacement screenshots!!!!!! are those Blu-ray?  Stunning!  Now I need to secretly ask you to fix some of the popular (but poorly screencapped) pages ;)  nudge nudge wink wink .....  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:41, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, per IMFDB rules, you can replace existing screenshots with your much superior widescreenshots.  Some of the pages you've worked on, you seem hesitant to replace the crappier pics.  By ALL MEANS replace the crappier pics!  Great screenshots are a wonder to behold.  Like [[Eraser]], i hope you can replace the full screen caps.  No one can complain.  The rules say that Widescreen are preferable to fullscreen. :)  Also, do you check the forum?  I was hoping to PM you there. Send me a PM there so I can reply to it. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Extreme Prejudice==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for redoing those caps. Gunmaster45 uploaded them for me before I knew I how to do them myself. Also I had figured Atwater's pistol was a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 39, not a Commander. But I couldn't tell enough from my cap. Since you redid it, it's clear. I really need to start messing with the colors on the VLC payer like you talked about. I pretty sure there is only one dvd version of Extreme Prejudice. Also there is an M60 used by the cartel in the final shootout that I missed. I think they are killed by Atwater. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:22, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W39-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 39-2 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EP-ColtCommander-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Buck Atwater puts down his Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 39 after the car is wrecked while fleeing the bank robbery.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Alright you must a magic setting when it comes to adjusting the colors on the VLC. I was able to make them better that what it was but still not as sharp.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EP-S&amp;amp;W629-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|old stock settings]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DS-00029.jpg|thumb|none|450px|my new one with adjusted settings]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DS-00031.jpg|thumb|none|450px|mine adjusted]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EP-Win92SRC-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|yours.]]&lt;br /&gt;
What adjustment am I missing? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:20, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==VLC setting==&lt;br /&gt;
Deinterlace? Where is that at? I didn't see it in Video effects. I messed with the gamma some. Maybe I need to use it more instead of brightness. What about hue and contrast also? Thanks for your help on this. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Edit found Deinterlace. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Man I tried to get the adjustments right. I give up. Have fun doing the rest of the Extreme Prejudice page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:49, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Burn Notice==&lt;br /&gt;
Your Burn Notice stuff is looking fantastic! Great screen caps and information, keep it up! --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, you've really filled out the page.  It was a mess before you started working on it, but now it looks a lot better.  I was actually planning to do some work on it for a while, but your screencaps are much higher-quality than mine, and so far, it's coming out great anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hi and thanx...==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it and from now on will do screencaps with VLC... :)&lt;br /&gt;
But if you're referring to the [[Universal Soldier: Regeneration]] screencaps, I am not the one responsible for those ones... I'm just now gonna upload my screencaps and remove those ols trailer caps... [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 13:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==HD and MM quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
You forgot, so I added it. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Marlboro Man ([[Don Johnson]]): '''Guns are made to be shot Harley, not thrown. -- ''[[Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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HD: You're gonna get shot up here. &lt;br /&gt;
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MM: Well you're gonna get smashed down there!&lt;br /&gt;
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HD: Hey man I'd rather get smashed than shot.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another one of my favorites, not sure if it would work on the main page.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hi, you need to categorize your pic uploads==&lt;br /&gt;
Great job, but when you upload screenshots, you need to put in the Category in double brackets and then put in 'screenshots'.  Check out how other screenshots are 'categorized'.  Thanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE Screencaps ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah the program I have been using is not the best, and I could not change aspect ratio settings for some reason. I just downloaded the VLC player that you wrote about on your main page. I will try using it and if it works out fine then Ill probably go back and rescreencap pages Ive don in wide screen. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 21:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Don't change the Categorization of the Batman movies==&lt;br /&gt;
Those were done so that the movies will appear in the order they were made.  Thanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I checked the page edit history.  You were the one who changed the &amp;quot;Category: Movie | Batman 2&amp;quot; etc to just &amp;quot;Category:Movie&amp;quot;.  Don't do that.  the Batman 2,3,4, etc. was done intentionally so that the titles sorted by their cinematic order, not by pure alphabetical order.  We did the same thing to the blade Series of movies.  Done purely by alphabetical sorting, Blade Trinity would be listed AHEAD of the first Blade movie rather than third.  Hope that helps, but these specific page edits were done for a specific reason.  thanks for your cooperation. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 10:00, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Marked for Death==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm glad to see someone is doing a page for this movie!&lt;br /&gt;
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That being said, Hatcher's 1911 in the movie is not an SVI (I don't think those even existed when the movie was made).  We had a topic about this in the forum, but the 1911 in the movie is a Federal Ordnance PSP-07.  It's mentioned in the credits for the movie.  Check out the forum topic here:&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the H&amp;amp;K automatic weapon used by Hatcher is not an HK53 (in fact, it's not even a .223-caliber weapon, if you look at the magazine).  It is called the &amp;quot;HK51K&amp;quot;, and it's a custom G3 conversion done by Bill Fleming, a Class III manufacturer.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Enhanced image request==&lt;br /&gt;
Could you enhance this image from Dirty Harry. The reason I ask is to better see the magnum markings. This one guy keeps changing it to a Model 57 a 41 magnum. It looks like it reads 44 magnum on the barrel. But an enhanced image would make it read better. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DH1S&amp;amp;W25-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This close up is at the end of the film.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. I have the newer box set too. But you usually have a way of making them appear a little bit better. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Pacific ==&lt;br /&gt;
So, where did you get access to those high resolution screencaps?--[[Special:Contributions/189.34.128.142|189.34.128.142]] 19:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The trailers are available on Youtube HD.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Eiger Sanction ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'v made a couple changes. Hemlock is actually using a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 40]] and not a Model 49 Bodyguard. Also the henchman is using hwat appears to be a snubby [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] instead of the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] snubbie. If you look closely at the screencap you will notice no adjustable sights. The revolver appears to have fixed or duty sights which would make it the Model 10. Also I went ahead and listed the weapons used by Hemlock on [[Clint Eastwood]] 's page. And also showed on the respective firearms pages. But nevertheless it's good work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Great work on Waterworld==&lt;br /&gt;
I hope you finish the page. :)  There are many dressed up guns in that movie.  Alas, most of the weapons were changed back after the movie was over, but I can see what I can get from Syd Stembridge regarding what guns still exist that appeared in that movie.  Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==EP==&lt;br /&gt;
Since you're still in the process of replacing images, could you replace the one below?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:EP-M16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
With the guy above firing a MAC-10. Don't really need two images back to back with Clancy Brown. Thanks. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Richard Attenborough Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
thanks for upgrading it. I had run out of time and had to go to work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quigly Poster ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I like the image of the movie poster. Nice. Really added to the page. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE == &lt;br /&gt;
I actually created disambiguation pages for CSI and Delta Force to make page navigation easier. I will try to make as many such pages I can, since unlike Wikipedia, page navigation needs a lot of improvement because sometimes even if we type the proper page name in the search box, we get the result not found.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 10:41, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Actor's Pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the heads up, Ben. I agree that the pages look ''much'' better in the table format, but I've seen several different examples on different pages in terms of what column is which, so I figured I'd leave them in the basic format. However, it seems that now we've reached a more streamlined pattern (such as on the page you alerted me to), so I'll be sure to follow that from then on. On a side note, all of your pages look great, the screencaps are very sharp! Nice work! --[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Writing spoilers==&lt;br /&gt;
On the [[A Perfect Getaway]] page it would hard to write what's going on without spoiling anything. GM45 came up with this on the [[Se7en]] page and I have used it on several pages.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:55, 20 April 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seven-SAM1911-A1-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Highlight for Spoilers:''' &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Write spoiler text here.&amp;lt;/font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Format ==&lt;br /&gt;
Sure I can do that. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Actor page response==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, but I'm not that familiar with that format.  I know enough about it to modify and add to pages already using that template but have never created one from scratch. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==New pages==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, Ben41! :)  You're an awesome screencapper and page fixer, but, please, don't create multiple new pages with no screen caps.  At least have some of the graphics ready to roll BEFORE the page is rolled out.  Creating new pages with no screenshots or graphics inspires other (less capable page makers) to create scads of new empty pages with only gun listings.  Thanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:42, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==We Were Soldiers==&lt;br /&gt;
I love your HD screencaps.  And I know that you have the discipline to put in an appropriate number of screencaps.  Heck you can replace even the ones I put in.  LOL.  It's all about the quality of the pics and the page.  I'm just trying to get rid of the full screen caps which I dislike.  Anyway, I know you're busy so I started working on the page - it being one of the most VIEWED pages on IMFDB.  Did you notice I added more SCREEN USED hero guns to the page? ;)  I can probably get more in the future when I  have time.  I just have to check with Mike Papac as to what guns were used on the production (but that takes time and checking records, etc.).  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks for the help on WWS==&lt;br /&gt;
Your screencaps look awesome.  A little favor though. We're trying to keep the screencaps from between 7-10 per section.  I was going to cull the XM16 page, but since you did an awesome job of replacing the full screen shots, I was hoping you would do the honors.  A big criticism of the page when it was done earlier was the overuse of screenshots (the XM16 page had 33 screencaps at one point).  Thanks again for your great work on the page.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User: 99.12.124.133 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent him a final warning, if he doesn't listen this time, he's gone for good. By the way, excellent work replacing screencaps all over IMFDB with much better ones, you have improved many pages on here alot. Keep up the good work, and let me know if you need anything.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:54, 8 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE: Thanks for the comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sure, I'll delete them when you start.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Virtuosity==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Ben, good work on ''[[Virtuosity]]'', but I have a question.  Do you have screenshots of the following characters/weapons from the movie:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Denzel Washington gets an H&amp;amp;K USP from a transport guard and uses it later in the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A bunch of the police officers in the movie also use the Beretta 92F, especially at the club.&lt;br /&gt;
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* One of the terrorists in the flashback sequence is armed with an M16-type rifle, I think an M16A1 with A2-style hand guards (can't tell).&lt;br /&gt;
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If you don't mind grabbing these screencaps, I'd appreciate it.  It would complete the page.  Gracias. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks!  Also, I think the subguns used in the movie may be [[Walther MPL]] or MPK, not Franchi LF-57s (I started a discussion about it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Some Last of the Mohicans guns==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey there. Glad to see how much work you've done on the page. :)  I had some pics of some of the background muskets (used by civilians and indians) that were 'rescued' from the production by one of the gunsmiths I knew who worked on the picture.  As you know, the vast majority of the guns were destroyed during the filming (the stuntmen pretty much used their muskets as clubs in most of the fight scenes) and over 400 Brown Bess muskets were destroyed.  I have a pic of two background guns.  Is there any screenshot which may have these in them?  I know they were for  background people.  One is a modern repro of a common commercial flintlock firearm of the time period, the other is known as a trade gun, i.e. a lesser quality flintlock that had less parts and craftsmanship, developed specifically for trade with the Indians (i.e. they let the 'locals' get the more cheaply made muskets).  Anyway, just wondering if you thought we should add this to your excellent page. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LastOfMohicans Musket2.jpg‎ |thumb|none|700px|Last of the Mohicans background screen musket]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually those were real firing muskets (modern replicas) of civilian muskets, so they were issued to the Colonists volunteers to represent 'private purchase' weapons of the civilians.  The Trade muskets were issued to allied Indians to the British Army as they were the 18th century equivalent of 'lend lease' to friendly Indian tribes.  They were indeed fired.  All non-firing guns were rubber.  The reason why so many guns were destroyed was that after 2 weeks of filming a lot of the actors and stuntmen and background extras were really banging on each other with the guns as clubs during the many days of 'hand to hand fighting' filming.    I suspect the filmmakers expected this since the production '''purchased''' the muskets, they didn't rent the majority of them, except for select hero guns.  Thanks.  So the info on the movie page isn't quite right. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wild Geese II ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for adding to this page, ive been looking for stuff on that Safari Arms pistol for so long now. Do you plan to add screencaps?--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 21:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Kuffs==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed you did the caps for Kuffs. Do you still have the movie? A quote could be added to the template. Slater says something like &amp;quot;I need a really big gun that holds lots of bullets&amp;quot; The gun clerk explains the Beretta and Slater says he'll take two. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==House==&lt;br /&gt;
The Glock Eleas Koteas holds has a rail so it's a 3rd gen, but also Koteas has big hands.  Do you think the gun looks like a .45 cap?   [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 12:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: 24 - Season 5 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still working on 24 - Season 5. Unlike most users I don't submit or save my work until it's completely done but I'll just save the first 8 episodes now that your asking. I've been stuck on Kalashnikov variants in the first 4 episodes that's why i haven't finished yet. - [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 14:02, 15 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Those black sidebars only occur during the first 3 episodes. I think those are caused by the DVDs since I am using VLC Media Player. As you could see I've decided to finish up [[24 - Season 5|Season 5]] since someone already have been posting low res screencaps and not leaving much detail like I did in [[24 - Season 7|Season 7]]. Can you help identifying the AK Variants when I'm done with episode 4. I think if I do one episode per day so I could get much more done. I can't make the caps any brighter since they've already been sitting in My Pictures for 3 months. But I look forward to doing seasons 4, 6, and 8. - [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 22:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==RoboCop==&lt;br /&gt;
Do you plan on adding any more caps to it? Emil Antonowsky ([[Paul McCrane]]) uses the Ithca 37 to shoot Murphy in the warehouse and some shots of him could be added. I have the dvd and can add them, but if you're still working on the page. I'll let you take care of it.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah looks like a TEC-9 mini.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEC-9Mini.jpg|thumb|none|215px|Intratec TEC-9 Mini with barrel shroud removed - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Also some more shots of Kurtwood with his &amp;quot;Sidewinder&amp;quot; would be good too and some with his Desert Eagle. Also a shot of Ronny Cox with the Desert Eagle at the end.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Missing In Action==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Ben,&lt;br /&gt;
I was screencapping [[Missing In Action]]. Unfortunatly i didn't finish before you started adding screencaps.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks, The one computer i have that can do screencaps sucks but I really do need to learn  how to properly use VCl. After Missing in Action I was going to do Delta Force 2 and the the rutger Hauer film Wanted Dead or Alive.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::My computer is chokeing up on VCL. if you have any more Missing In action images post them. I was also going to do Delta Force 2 but given my limitations that's out for now.[[Special:Contributions/69.232.200.58|69.232.200.58]] 04:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==RE: Crossing Over==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I was gonna say...rapid turn-around!  Anyway, now that I've seen the ones you uploaded, they're of better quality than mine, so I'd rather leave it to you (plus, it ensures that the quality will be consistent).  That sound good? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A-Team Page episode titles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know what is standart procedure, but should the episode titles be in italics or in quotation marks? I personally prefer italics. It looks better. -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, I will go through the article and change the titles. Thanks for the answer!  -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==PNGs replaced with JPGs==&lt;br /&gt;
I reuploaded the images as jpgs with proper tags, but how would I go about deleting the pngs? --[[User:Damaku250|Damaku250]] 19:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The film page template==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed that you changed the template for [[The American]].  That template has an interesting history.  I've never used it because I was one of the early ones who didn't like that formatting change.  Some users created a template that had the poster line BELOW the summary line amongst other slight changes.  There was no consensus.  I think just one person came up with it and used it.  But I always did it the way that Bunni did it.  The majority of the site was Bunni's way.  But ever since one of the Mods made their own 'user's template' people have started changing pages to conform with it, which I never agreed with.  Just letting you know, as a mod, I've always been changing them back to the original style from when the site first began.    I still think the poster should be aligned top most and to the upper rightmost corner of the page to start with, which means the poster image line should be first on the page, just because that's the way 90% of the site was when it first started and I thought it looked best.  Just thought I'd give you some of the interesting background history, (and why most of the pages which I work on are changed to that way, moreso if I did all the work on the page, which I did NOT on [[The American]] which is someone else's page.  :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Since you started the page and put all the screencaps up, I defer to your preference.  :)  Which is what I said previously, but on my pages I prefer the old style. :)       [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Jesse Ventura==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm not one to trust Wikipedia. Ventura might have served in Vietnam, but is said not to have saw actual combat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura#Navy_career Otherwise I would have included him when I wrote up the Richard Chaves page. I was wanting to do more research into Ventura's military career. Ventura is a veteran though. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also before I build an actor page I search their name before I build the article, take Melanie Griffith she also used a SIG P230 in Season 3 of Miami Vice.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:08, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I thinking the wording Chaves' page should be: &amp;quot;Best known for his role as Poncho in Predator, Richard served in the Army's 101st Airborne Division, he is one of two actors in the film that served in the Vietnam War. The other being Jesse Ventura who served in the Navy's UDT.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Alt wording could be &amp;quot;Best known for his role as Poncho in Predator, Richard served in the Army's 101st Airborne Division, he is one of two actors in the film that are Vietnam veterans. The other being Jesse Ventura who served in the Navy's UDT.&amp;quot; Or if you can think of better wording, go for it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Miami Vice vs 24==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm going to wrap up season four of Vice probably next week. Then I'll get started on season five. When that gets finished we'll be able to do an accurate count on the total number of different guns used. You can go ahead do a count on 24 if you want and see where it's at. Also don't just add the number of guns per season together. A Beretta 92FS counts once not eight times. If we did that 24 would be at 234 and Miami Vice would be at 195 currently with a season and a half to go. I think Vice was at 100+ different guns before the page was split into seasons. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Reupping a-team image  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It´ll have to wait till Friday. I´ll get it done then.--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Sorry for the delay. Was away for longer then I expected. The [[A-Team%2C_The#Ruger_Mini_14_Stainless_version_with_Folding_stock|image]] has been replaced. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cherry 2000==&lt;br /&gt;
You're doing great work but you're doing too many pages at one time. I clicked on one of the images you uploaded for the film a few weeks back. It was Ben Johnson holding a SAA (I'll always remember him from The Wild Bunch), I checked the paged today it wasn't on there. I went through your uploads and found it along with another that had Brion James with a Winchester 1897. I put them on the page. You may want check your other films and see if any images are missing. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Kingdom ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any specific reason why you reverted the close-up of Sykes with the 91? And the one of the MP5? Your over-brightened (and sorta yellow-ish) shots aren't exactly better. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 12:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I personally cant see the point of using your 91 pic over the new one. It´s more detailed and you get to see the stock fully. Though in retrospective reverting the MP5 picture was a good idea indeed. And the whole .png to .jpg thing isn´t necessary for me. I own Photoshop, so I can regulate the quality of my .jpg´s fully (which is also the reason why all my uploads until yesterday were so big, I only started to use lower compression then)..--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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VLC never made it darker for me. Are you sure that you have the video effects off? It might also simply be your screen. The brightness differs heavily between different models (there´s a massive gap between my laptop and my gaming rig in terms of contrast). --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Good Work ==&lt;br /&gt;
You're doing good work. Remember to link the movies to the guns or is that link the guns to the movies. Nevertheless keep it up. Thanks for the help.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Using Photoshop ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sounds overly complicated to me. I take the caps, work up the quality a bit, resize and save with quality compression 10. It works well enough. Though I am open to any kind of advice. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I was planning on redoing those, but lost interest that very same day. You can redo them if you want. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:18, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jesse Stone ==&lt;br /&gt;
Yes but I have no definite timetable. If you want to do it go for it. My ego won't be bruised. On the other hand you suck for updating [[Fort Apache, The Bronx]]. LOL. I've been planning on doing an upgrade, but I was going to borrow my father's DVD and I'm not going to be seeing him until October. But perhaps I'll see if I can get some screencaps to add at that time. As you probably noticed I've been tinkering with that page over the past couple years. It needs some work. Good job. And you are welcome. Also right back at you. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:46, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay. Not a problem. And yes I've read that there is another Stone movie coming out this year. I believe they've already filmed it. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Admin==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Ben, the thought just occurred to me...you are WAY overdue for an Administrator position offer.  Have any of the other Admins offered you the position yet?  You've been doing a lot of work on this site for a long time, so I think you've earned it.  If you want the job, I will gladly email Bunni and ask him to promote you. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guess we're getting promoted. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been invited as well. I put your name in, but it looks like somebody beat me to it. Congrats.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== All hail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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our new Ben41 admin overlord. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 16:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Carnosaur 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, [[Carnosaur 3: Primal Species|it's]] been taken care of. How's it look now? I've also added a section about two pistols that have been at the beginning and end of the movie, I really can't tell what the are, but I think they either are:&lt;br /&gt;
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#[[Glock|Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Beretta 92 pistol series|M9]]&lt;br /&gt;
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sorry to butt in, but i dont think that they are any of those weapons. (not my business i know)--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:18, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==BTW - a belated Congratulations on your promotion to Mod==&lt;br /&gt;
Now you will have to fight the trolls/idiots/fanboys even MORE! hahahahaha(evil laugh).  Congratulations!!!! MPM&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks man ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for fixing the page I created. Sorry that it wasn't up to scratch. I was just surprised that no-one else had made the page in the three years since the movies release. Appreciate it. (Gunmaster12)--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== L85A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
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What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
==Carlos's handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:( --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only when your out of 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:FiveTwoSeven is right on the money. Desert Eagles might beat 9mm if you're hunting rhinos or grizzly bears or something, but otherwise, they're a bulky, heavy, oversized gun firing unnecessarily big bullets. Hate to tell you man, but the real world doesn't work like Call of Duty, there's NO real world military or police force that carries the DE, while there are tons carrying 9mm pistols. And there's a reason for that. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)                                                &lt;br /&gt;
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The Desert Eagle may be over-powered, but the 9mm is definatly under-powered. You could hit an enemy 4-5 times and not take them out, but with the Desert Eagle you only need 1 shot. And please don't tell me your a &amp;quot;9mm all the way&amp;quot;, because there are more calibres that are better than the 9mm than there are worse, by far. (.41AE, 10mm Auto, 9x21mmIMI, and of course .45 ACP, plus all the magnums .357 and .44 are better by my books.)And no, i don't think the world works like COD4, because i have found more mistakes with the firearms than you could ever imagine. Ditto for MW2. I wish i had had a say in the making of the games, i would have changed a lot. sorry if i caused offence.--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Extinction</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Carlos's handguns */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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== L85A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REE 049.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 464==&lt;br /&gt;
'''[moved from main page]''' --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:07, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
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What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
==Carlos's handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
(Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:( --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only when your out of 9mm.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 17:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:FiveTwoSeven is right on the money. Desert Eagles might beat 9mm if you're hunting rhinos or grizzly bears or something, but otherwise, they're a bulky, heavy, oversized gun firing unnecessarily big bullets. Hate to tell you man, but the real world doesn't work like Call of Duty, there's NO real world military or police force that carries the DE, while there are tons carrying 9mm pistols. And there's a reason for that. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)                                                ^(Glocks are crappy ladies weapons)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Desert Eagle may be over-powered, but the 9mm is definatly under-powered. You could hit an enemy 4-5 times and not take them out, but with the Desert Eagle you only need 1 shot. And please don't tell me your a &amp;quot;9mm all the way&amp;quot;, because there are more calibres that are better than the 9mm than there are worse, by far. (.41AE, 10mm Auto, 9x21mmIMI, and of course .45 ACP, plus all the magnums .357 and .44 are better by my books.)And no, i don't think the world works like COD4, because i have found more mistakes with the firearms than you could ever imagine. Ditto for MW2. I wish i had had a say in the making of the games, i would have changed a lot. hahaha--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Extinction</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Carlos's handguns */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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== L85A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REE 049.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 464==&lt;br /&gt;
'''[moved from main page]''' --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:07, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
==Carlos's handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
(Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:( --[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 13:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Resident_Evil:_Extinction&amp;diff=312201</id>
		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Extinction</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-10T13:48:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Carlos's handguns */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== L85A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:REE 049.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 464==&lt;br /&gt;
'''[moved from main page]''' --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:07, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
==Carlos's handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
(Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
I think he should have kept the IMI Desert Eagles .50AEs. They beat HK USP 9mms any day....:(&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Resident_Evil:_Extinction&amp;diff=312200</id>
		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Extinction</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-10T13:42:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* I'll take the job */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
Im like, f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== L85A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:REE 049.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Mossberg 464==&lt;br /&gt;
'''[moved from main page]''' --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:07, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
==Carlos's handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
(Demonslayer43)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Resident_Evil:_Extinction&amp;diff=312199</id>
		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Extinction</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Resident_Evil:_Extinction&amp;diff=312199"/>
		<updated>2010-08-10T13:41:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* I'll take the job */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Im like,f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== L85A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 464==&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
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What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
==Carlos's handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
(Demonslayer43)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Resident_Evil:_Extinction&amp;diff=312198</id>
		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Extinction</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-10T13:39:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* I'll take the job */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
What Im thinking it might be a Benelli M3 or probably a modified shotgun or something. &lt;br /&gt;
 Im like,f**king confused and its annoying me... (Demonslayer43)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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== L85A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, Yuri and Nikolai had TARs, Carlos had a Galil. Carlos also had Desert Eagles, so it seems the Israeli weapons industry armed the whole team... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 15:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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Late to this convo, but the question came to my mind too. I mean yeah, the characters are carrying whatever they happened to loot/come across, and I accept that, but still, the odds of coming across an L85 in the US rather than a weapon actually used by some branch of the US military/law enforcement, or even a weapon that's reasonably easy to acquire by civilians in the US has GOT to be slim. Realistically, as far as assault rifles go, an M4, or M16, or a G36, or even an AUG(which is at least used by Customs) would be a lot more likely to be found laying around waiting to be looted than an L85. Then again, &amp;quot;realism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Resident Evil movie&amp;quot; should probably never be brought up in the same topic anyways, so I suppose the point is moot. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 14:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule of cool my friend, rule of cool. That and its so...'exotic'. You barely see them in films set in the UK, or with UK forces (because - how many are there?) so to see one in the US makes it extra special. Then again - perhaps he owns it - as the above guy said, a company in the USA does sell a semi-automatic L85 clone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, I want to know which company is that? Cause I kinda like the L85 rifle, though I like the AUG more. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, the guy said the one sold in the US is &amp;quot;almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto&amp;quot; too, so still, the cowboy just happens to be/find one of the what, 100 people in the US who had one of those rifles(the company that makes them is indeed Prexis, it's called the PL-85, and it costs $2900 on their website) AND happens to also able to convert it/find one already converted to full auto? Seems you'd be more likely to find some Modern Warfare kid who was machining his own AKs in his mom's basement than find a PL-85. So yeah, I'd say rule of cool indeed wins out. Oh well, it's always fun to find off the wall firearm choices in movies, regardless of whether or not the weapon realistically would be the one used. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REE 049.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 464==&lt;br /&gt;
'''[moved from main page]''' --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:07, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
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What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;br /&gt;
==Carlos's handguns==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didnt Carlos use Dual Desert Eagles in Apocolypes? But i guess being 5 years since the movies have gone by hes gotten new ones... wierd...&lt;br /&gt;
(Demonslayer43)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Ben41&amp;diff=312026</id>
		<title>User talk:Ben41</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-10T04:03:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Thanks man */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Page Making==&lt;br /&gt;
Two problems. You need to go on IMDb and find the correct title, and spell the title properly when you make a page. And two, actor pages do not require you to add JUST character and movies, the point of the pages is to list the guns the actor has used. IMDb already lists all the movies actors are in, so we don't (http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Ben41&amp;amp;action=editand won't) have to. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Band of Brothers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for inserting information onto the page such as characters, situations, episodes, etc. It looks much more cleaned up now! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 19:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==U571==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the screencaps.  Just a reminder.  Be sure to identify who is on screen and what they are doing in the shot.  Also identify which actors used which guns.  That is really important information for the individual actor's pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excellent! Great work! Thanks! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hi==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Ben,&lt;br /&gt;
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Great work on all the screencaps and contributions you've so far, but I must insist that you try to follow format:&lt;br /&gt;
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*(1.) Always include gun pictures along with the screencaps from the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
*(2.) Always make sure you link to the gun pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to save time, you can just go to a page for another movie in which the same gun appears, and copy and paste the code from that page to save time.  If I'm doing a page for a movie that has a SIG-Sauer P226, for example, I will just go to a page that has the same gun (like ''[[Air Force One]]''), copy the entry, and then change the code as needed.  It's a good habit to get into, and it's important for this site's completeness and cohesion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, and again, great work so far. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:36, 2 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks I'll try. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the input, I'll try and include the gun pictures as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey Ben ==&lt;br /&gt;
I was wondering if i could redo your page for [[Rules of Engagement]]. I dont want to step on any toes, but with your permission, I'll make it look real pretty. :) -[[User:The_Winchester|Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want redo the descriptions, that's fine.   I just pretty much did the screen caps.   [[User:Ben41|Ben41]]  14 Oct 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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==Your screencaps are too big==&lt;br /&gt;
Gorgeous work on the Dark Knight Blu-ray pics .... BUT ... 1925 pixels across?!?!?! 925KB sized files?!?!?!?!  These MUST be shrunk down in that the original size won't be looked at full resolution anyway and they are taking up way too much space.  Have you noticed how long it takes for these images to be loaded when clicking on the page?  I know that some of our veteran members (and mods) sometimes upload gigantic images, but I think yours are now the biggest on the site.  Please make them smaller to allow quick loading of your page.  Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 14:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll make sure the rest of the pics I'll upload are smaller in size, but I think the reason it's still loading slow is because the majority of the pics are still PNG's.  I'm trying to replace them, but there's a lot of pictures.   --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robocop ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, great job at improving the screencaps on the [[Robocop]] page. They look great now! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 08:10, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, still a work in progress, but I really wanted to up the quality of the pics.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 08:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Heat screencaps==&lt;br /&gt;
Were those taken from a Blu-ray? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, these caps are from the Special Edition DVD. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:01, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, did you mess with the color? The reason I ask is the new pic you uploaded of DeNiro seems to have more grain in the pic.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Heat-M16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Your pic.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HT-00001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A quick one I took]]&lt;br /&gt;
It's not the same exact frame but close. My DVD is the '05 Two-Disc Special Edition. Also when someone sends you a message on your talk page, you reply back on theirs. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I use the VLC too. I never tried saving them to PNG first then the JPEG. I may try that. Also I uploaded a new version of my cap. It's the same frame now. The first one I took was a little bit after. Some of the shots you took look better than others. The shot of Pacino and Studi in elevator looks great, more color.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Unit==&lt;br /&gt;
Please tell me you're going to replace all of the older pics with your newer more awesome pics.  That will motivate me to get more screen used guns for the page. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:42, 22 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==.PNG Images==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have always used .PNGs in lieu of .Jpegs because, while they are bigger, they are of superior quality, especially when it comes to thumbnails. Therefore, identifying guns is easier as the images are clearer. Since the rules, standards and principles insists on space conserving .jpeg images, the Carlito's way page will probably be the last one I do using .PNGs. I decided this yesterday before you sent me this and just didn't think it was worth announcing, and the only reason the Carlito's Way images are .PNGs is because I was halfway done with doing them all when I picked up my work yesterday. Needless to say I'll conform to the rules this time, so long as the quality of the screencaps doesn't suffer too much. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 22:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Problem with the Pirates pages==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for asking ahead of time :)   But I hate those pages.  There is little we can identify other than 'flintlock pistol, 'flintlock musket', 'flintlock blunderbuss', etc.  It's crap.  We can offer no other information other than what is completely obvious to the audience.  Gee. Jack Sparrow uses a flintlock pistol.  So what?  They didn't need US to tell them that.  And if we cannot identify what make, model of pistol (which is hard since so many are custom), then it is a complete waste of IMFDB server space to have the page.  I'm going to go on a deletion spree for all the lame pages with no screencaps on them.    It's a part of the rules and standards, that bad pages are NOT better than no pages at all.  Lame pages, especially lots of them, makes us look bad.  Good thing you're trying to fix a bunch of the bad existing pages.   I wish more members did that rather than create endless NEW pages that are lame.   [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aliens==&lt;br /&gt;
I wasn't sure if you were going to be adding anymore pics to the page. I added 3 screencaps, I have a few others that can be added too if you're finshed. I had already capped the film the same time I uploaded the behind the scenes images. Which was at the end of Nov. but I didn't get off my ass and upload them so you beat me to it. Which is no big deal.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stargate==&lt;br /&gt;
:I've noticed that the screencaps that you upload are much brighter/clearer than mine -are you using Blu Ray? --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Interpreter==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Henry US Survival.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Henry US Survival .22 LR with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The rifle you see in this picture is the exact same one that was used in ''[[The Interpreter]]''.  I got the picture from the web site of Weapons Specialists, Ltd. in New York, which is the company that supplied the weapons to the production.  So it's a safe bet that this exact gun is the one from the movie.  You can see it's the same configuration and everything.  This same gun was also used in ''[[Lord of War]]'' (another movie for which Weapons Specialists supplied guns).&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the AK rifle in the movie is an AK-47, not an AKM (and most likely, it's a converted Poly Tech Legend). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:22, 9 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== White Hunter Black Heart ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm into double rifles. Hope you weren't offended by my post on the discussion page, but it's fairly common for folks to mistake a double rifle for a double shotgun.I used to until a few years ago whne I set out to educate myself.Unfortunately it's all book learning. Personally I would love to own a double rifle - even a German double. But the German rifles start at $10,000 and go up to $20,000. The British doubles start at approximately $70,000 and go as high as $250,000. *Sigh* &lt;br /&gt;
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I have the soul of a snob and the bank account of a working class joe. Oh well. The page looks good by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Last Samurai==&lt;br /&gt;
WOW!  Great work on the replacement screenshots!!!!!! are those Blu-ray?  Stunning!  Now I need to secretly ask you to fix some of the popular (but poorly screencapped) pages ;)  nudge nudge wink wink .....  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:41, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, per IMFDB rules, you can replace existing screenshots with your much superior widescreenshots.  Some of the pages you've worked on, you seem hesitant to replace the crappier pics.  By ALL MEANS replace the crappier pics!  Great screenshots are a wonder to behold.  Like [[Eraser]], i hope you can replace the full screen caps.  No one can complain.  The rules say that Widescreen are preferable to fullscreen. :)  Also, do you check the forum?  I was hoping to PM you there. Send me a PM there so I can reply to it. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Extreme Prejudice==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for redoing those caps. Gunmaster45 uploaded them for me before I knew I how to do them myself. Also I had figured Atwater's pistol was a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 39, not a Commander. But I couldn't tell enough from my cap. Since you redid it, it's clear. I really need to start messing with the colors on the VLC payer like you talked about. I pretty sure there is only one dvd version of Extreme Prejudice. Also there is an M60 used by the cartel in the final shootout that I missed. I think they are killed by Atwater. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:22, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W39-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 39-2 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EP-ColtCommander-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Buck Atwater puts down his Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 39 after the car is wrecked while fleeing the bank robbery.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Alright you must a magic setting when it comes to adjusting the colors on the VLC. I was able to make them better that what it was but still not as sharp.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EP-S&amp;amp;W629-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|old stock settings]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DS-00029.jpg|thumb|none|450px|my new one with adjusted settings]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DS-00031.jpg|thumb|none|450px|mine adjusted]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EP-Win92SRC-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|yours.]]&lt;br /&gt;
What adjustment am I missing? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:20, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==VLC setting==&lt;br /&gt;
Deinterlace? Where is that at? I didn't see it in Video effects. I messed with the gamma some. Maybe I need to use it more instead of brightness. What about hue and contrast also? Thanks for your help on this. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Edit found Deinterlace. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Man I tried to get the adjustments right. I give up. Have fun doing the rest of the Extreme Prejudice page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:49, 29 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Burn Notice==&lt;br /&gt;
Your Burn Notice stuff is looking fantastic! Great screen caps and information, keep it up! --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, you've really filled out the page.  It was a mess before you started working on it, but now it looks a lot better.  I was actually planning to do some work on it for a while, but your screencaps are much higher-quality than mine, and so far, it's coming out great anyway. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hi and thanx...==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it and from now on will do screencaps with VLC... :)&lt;br /&gt;
But if you're referring to the [[Universal Soldier: Regeneration]] screencaps, I am not the one responsible for those ones... I'm just now gonna upload my screencaps and remove those ols trailer caps... [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 13:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==HD and MM quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Marlboro Man ([[Don Johnson]]): '''Guns are made to be shot Harley, not thrown. -- ''[[Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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Another one of my favorites, not sure if it would work on the main page.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hi, you need to categorize your pic uploads==&lt;br /&gt;
Great job, but when you upload screenshots, you need to put in the Category in double brackets and then put in 'screenshots'.  Check out how other screenshots are 'categorized'.  Thanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE Screencaps ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah the program I have been using is not the best, and I could not change aspect ratio settings for some reason. I just downloaded the VLC player that you wrote about on your main page. I will try using it and if it works out fine then Ill probably go back and rescreencap pages Ive don in wide screen. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 21:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Don't change the Categorization of the Batman movies==&lt;br /&gt;
Those were done so that the movies will appear in the order they were made.  Thanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I checked the page edit history.  You were the one who changed the &amp;quot;Category: Movie | Batman 2&amp;quot; etc to just &amp;quot;Category:Movie&amp;quot;.  Don't do that.  the Batman 2,3,4, etc. was done intentionally so that the titles sorted by their cinematic order, not by pure alphabetical order.  We did the same thing to the blade Series of movies.  Done purely by alphabetical sorting, Blade Trinity would be listed AHEAD of the first Blade movie rather than third.  Hope that helps, but these specific page edits were done for a specific reason.  thanks for your cooperation. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 10:00, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Marked for Death==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm glad to see someone is doing a page for this movie!&lt;br /&gt;
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That being said, Hatcher's 1911 in the movie is not an SVI (I don't think those even existed when the movie was made).  We had a topic about this in the forum, but the 1911 in the movie is a Federal Ordnance PSP-07.  It's mentioned in the credits for the movie.  Check out the forum topic here:&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the H&amp;amp;K automatic weapon used by Hatcher is not an HK53 (in fact, it's not even a .223-caliber weapon, if you look at the magazine).  It is called the &amp;quot;HK51K&amp;quot;, and it's a custom G3 conversion done by Bill Fleming, a Class III manufacturer.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Enhanced image request==&lt;br /&gt;
Could you enhance this image from Dirty Harry. The reason I ask is to better see the magnum markings. This one guy keeps changing it to a Model 57 a 41 magnum. It looks like it reads 44 magnum on the barrel. But an enhanced image would make it read better. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DH1S&amp;amp;W25-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This close up is at the end of the film.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. I have the newer box set too. But you usually have a way of making them appear a little bit better. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Pacific ==&lt;br /&gt;
So, where did you get access to those high resolution screencaps?--[[Special:Contributions/189.34.128.142|189.34.128.142]] 19:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The trailers are available on Youtube HD.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Eiger Sanction ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'v made a couple changes. Hemlock is actually using a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 40]] and not a Model 49 Bodyguard. Also the henchman is using hwat appears to be a snubby [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 10]] instead of the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] snubbie. If you look closely at the screencap you will notice no adjustable sights. The revolver appears to have fixed or duty sights which would make it the Model 10. Also I went ahead and listed the weapons used by Hemlock on [[Clint Eastwood]] 's page. And also showed on the respective firearms pages. But nevertheless it's good work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Great work on Waterworld==&lt;br /&gt;
I hope you finish the page. :)  There are many dressed up guns in that movie.  Alas, most of the weapons were changed back after the movie was over, but I can see what I can get from Syd Stembridge regarding what guns still exist that appeared in that movie.  Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==EP==&lt;br /&gt;
Since you're still in the process of replacing images, could you replace the one below?&lt;br /&gt;
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With the guy above firing a MAC-10. Don't really need two images back to back with Clancy Brown. Thanks. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Richard Attenborough Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
thanks for upgrading it. I had run out of time and had to go to work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quigly Poster ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I like the image of the movie poster. Nice. Really added to the page. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE == &lt;br /&gt;
I actually created disambiguation pages for CSI and Delta Force to make page navigation easier. I will try to make as many such pages I can, since unlike Wikipedia, page navigation needs a lot of improvement because sometimes even if we type the proper page name in the search box, we get the result not found.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 10:41, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Actor's Pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the heads up, Ben. I agree that the pages look ''much'' better in the table format, but I've seen several different examples on different pages in terms of what column is which, so I figured I'd leave them in the basic format. However, it seems that now we've reached a more streamlined pattern (such as on the page you alerted me to), so I'll be sure to follow that from then on. On a side note, all of your pages look great, the screencaps are very sharp! Nice work! --[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Writing spoilers==&lt;br /&gt;
On the [[A Perfect Getaway]] page it would hard to write what's going on without spoiling anything. GM45 came up with this on the [[Se7en]] page and I have used it on several pages.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:55, 20 April 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Seven-SAM1911-A1-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Highlight for Spoilers:''' &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot;&amp;gt; Write spoiler text here.&amp;lt;/font color=&amp;quot;white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Format ==&lt;br /&gt;
Sure I can do that. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Actor page response==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, but I'm not that familiar with that format.  I know enough about it to modify and add to pages already using that template but have never created one from scratch. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==New pages==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, Ben41! :)  You're an awesome screencapper and page fixer, but, please, don't create multiple new pages with no screen caps.  At least have some of the graphics ready to roll BEFORE the page is rolled out.  Creating new pages with no screenshots or graphics inspires other (less capable page makers) to create scads of new empty pages with only gun listings.  Thanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:42, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:BTW I have 100% confidence that '''you''' will populate the page with great caps, but the worry is that others will do the first part and not the second part.  thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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==We Were Soldiers==&lt;br /&gt;
I love your HD screencaps.  And I know that you have the discipline to put in an appropriate number of screencaps.  Heck you can replace even the ones I put in.  LOL.  It's all about the quality of the pics and the page.  I'm just trying to get rid of the full screen caps which I dislike.  Anyway, I know you're busy so I started working on the page - it being one of the most VIEWED pages on IMFDB.  Did you notice I added more SCREEN USED hero guns to the page? ;)  I can probably get more in the future when I  have time.  I just have to check with Mike Papac as to what guns were used on the production (but that takes time and checking records, etc.).  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks for the help on WWS==&lt;br /&gt;
Your screencaps look awesome.  A little favor though. We're trying to keep the screencaps from between 7-10 per section.  I was going to cull the XM16 page, but since you did an awesome job of replacing the full screen shots, I was hoping you would do the honors.  A big criticism of the page when it was done earlier was the overuse of screenshots (the XM16 page had 33 screencaps at one point).  Thanks again for your great work on the page.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User: 99.12.124.133 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent him a final warning, if he doesn't listen this time, he's gone for good. By the way, excellent work replacing screencaps all over IMFDB with much better ones, you have improved many pages on here alot. Keep up the good work, and let me know if you need anything.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:54, 8 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE: Thanks for the comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sure, I'll delete them when you start.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Virtuosity==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Ben, good work on ''[[Virtuosity]]'', but I have a question.  Do you have screenshots of the following characters/weapons from the movie:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Denzel Washington gets an H&amp;amp;K USP from a transport guard and uses it later in the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
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* One of the terrorists in the flashback sequence is armed with an M16-type rifle, I think an M16A1 with A2-style hand guards (can't tell).&lt;br /&gt;
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If you don't mind grabbing these screencaps, I'd appreciate it.  It would complete the page.  Gracias. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks!  Also, I think the subguns used in the movie may be [[Walther MPL]] or MPK, not Franchi LF-57s (I started a discussion about it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Some Last of the Mohicans guns==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey there. Glad to see how much work you've done on the page. :)  I had some pics of some of the background muskets (used by civilians and indians) that were 'rescued' from the production by one of the gunsmiths I knew who worked on the picture.  As you know, the vast majority of the guns were destroyed during the filming (the stuntmen pretty much used their muskets as clubs in most of the fight scenes) and over 400 Brown Bess muskets were destroyed.  I have a pic of two background guns.  Is there any screenshot which may have these in them?  I know they were for  background people.  One is a modern repro of a common commercial flintlock firearm of the time period, the other is known as a trade gun, i.e. a lesser quality flintlock that had less parts and craftsmanship, developed specifically for trade with the Indians (i.e. they let the 'locals' get the more cheaply made muskets).  Anyway, just wondering if you thought we should add this to your excellent page. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LastOfMohicans Musket2.jpg‎ |thumb|none|700px|Last of the Mohicans background screen musket]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually those were real firing muskets (modern replicas) of civilian muskets, so they were issued to the Colonists volunteers to represent 'private purchase' weapons of the civilians.  The Trade muskets were issued to allied Indians to the British Army as they were the 18th century equivalent of 'lend lease' to friendly Indian tribes.  They were indeed fired.  All non-firing guns were rubber.  The reason why so many guns were destroyed was that after 2 weeks of filming a lot of the actors and stuntmen and background extras were really banging on each other with the guns as clubs during the many days of 'hand to hand fighting' filming.    I suspect the filmmakers expected this since the production '''purchased''' the muskets, they didn't rent the majority of them, except for select hero guns.  Thanks.  So the info on the movie page isn't quite right. :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wild Geese II ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for adding to this page, ive been looking for stuff on that Safari Arms pistol for so long now. Do you plan to add screencaps?--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 21:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Kuffs==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed you did the caps for Kuffs. Do you still have the movie? A quote could be added to the template. Slater says something like &amp;quot;I need a really big gun that holds lots of bullets&amp;quot; The gun clerk explains the Beretta and Slater says he'll take two. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==House==&lt;br /&gt;
The Glock Eleas Koteas holds has a rail so it's a 3rd gen, but also Koteas has big hands.  Do you think the gun looks like a .45 cap?   [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 12:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: 24 - Season 5 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still working on 24 - Season 5. Unlike most users I don't submit or save my work until it's completely done but I'll just save the first 8 episodes now that your asking. I've been stuck on Kalashnikov variants in the first 4 episodes that's why i haven't finished yet. - [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 14:02, 15 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Those black sidebars only occur during the first 3 episodes. I think those are caused by the DVDs since I am using VLC Media Player. As you could see I've decided to finish up [[24 - Season 5|Season 5]] since someone already have been posting low res screencaps and not leaving much detail like I did in [[24 - Season 7|Season 7]]. Can you help identifying the AK Variants when I'm done with episode 4. I think if I do one episode per day so I could get much more done. I can't make the caps any brighter since they've already been sitting in My Pictures for 3 months. But I look forward to doing seasons 4, 6, and 8. - [[User:HKFan|HKFan]] 22:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==RoboCop==&lt;br /&gt;
Do you plan on adding any more caps to it? Emil Antonowsky ([[Paul McCrane]]) uses the Ithca 37 to shoot Murphy in the warehouse and some shots of him could be added. I have the dvd and can add them, but if you're still working on the page. I'll let you take care of it.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah looks like a TEC-9 mini.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TEC-9Mini.jpg|thumb|none|215px|Intratec TEC-9 Mini with barrel shroud removed - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Also some more shots of Kurtwood with his &amp;quot;Sidewinder&amp;quot; would be good too and some with his Desert Eagle. Also a shot of Ronny Cox with the Desert Eagle at the end.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Missing In Action==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Ben,&lt;br /&gt;
I was screencapping [[Missing In Action]]. Unfortunatly i didn't finish before you started adding screencaps.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks, The one computer i have that can do screencaps sucks but I really do need to learn  how to properly use VCl. After Missing in Action I was going to do Delta Force 2 and the the rutger Hauer film Wanted Dead or Alive.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::My computer is chokeing up on VCL. if you have any more Missing In action images post them. I was also going to do Delta Force 2 but given my limitations that's out for now.[[Special:Contributions/69.232.200.58|69.232.200.58]] 04:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==RE: Crossing Over==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I was gonna say...rapid turn-around!  Anyway, now that I've seen the ones you uploaded, they're of better quality than mine, so I'd rather leave it to you (plus, it ensures that the quality will be consistent).  That sound good? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A-Team Page episode titles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know what is standart procedure, but should the episode titles be in italics or in quotation marks? I personally prefer italics. It looks better. -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, I will go through the article and change the titles. Thanks for the answer!  -[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==PNGs replaced with JPGs==&lt;br /&gt;
I reuploaded the images as jpgs with proper tags, but how would I go about deleting the pngs? --[[User:Damaku250|Damaku250]] 19:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The film page template==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed that you changed the template for [[The American]].  That template has an interesting history.  I've never used it because I was one of the early ones who didn't like that formatting change.  Some users created a template that had the poster line BELOW the summary line amongst other slight changes.  There was no consensus.  I think just one person came up with it and used it.  But I always did it the way that Bunni did it.  The majority of the site was Bunni's way.  But ever since one of the Mods made their own 'user's template' people have started changing pages to conform with it, which I never agreed with.  Just letting you know, as a mod, I've always been changing them back to the original style from when the site first began.    I still think the poster should be aligned top most and to the upper rightmost corner of the page to start with, which means the poster image line should be first on the page, just because that's the way 90% of the site was when it first started and I thought it looked best.  Just thought I'd give you some of the interesting background history, (and why most of the pages which I work on are changed to that way, moreso if I did all the work on the page, which I did NOT on [[The American]] which is someone else's page.  :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Since you started the page and put all the screencaps up, I defer to your preference.  :)  Which is what I said previously, but on my pages I prefer the old style. :)       [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Jesse Ventura==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm not one to trust Wikipedia. Ventura might have served in Vietnam, but is said not to have saw actual combat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura#Navy_career Otherwise I would have included him when I wrote up the Richard Chaves page. I was wanting to do more research into Ventura's military career. Ventura is a veteran though. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also before I build an actor page I search their name before I build the article, take Melanie Griffith she also used a SIG P230 in Season 3 of Miami Vice.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:08, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I thinking the wording Chaves' page should be: &amp;quot;Best known for his role as Poncho in Predator, Richard served in the Army's 101st Airborne Division, he is one of two actors in the film that served in the Vietnam War. The other being Jesse Ventura who served in the Navy's UDT.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Alt wording could be &amp;quot;Best known for his role as Poncho in Predator, Richard served in the Army's 101st Airborne Division, he is one of two actors in the film that are Vietnam veterans. The other being Jesse Ventura who served in the Navy's UDT.&amp;quot; Or if you can think of better wording, go for it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Miami Vice vs 24==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm going to wrap up season four of Vice probably next week. Then I'll get started on season five. When that gets finished we'll be able to do an accurate count on the total number of different guns used. You can go ahead do a count on 24 if you want and see where it's at. Also don't just add the number of guns per season together. A Beretta 92FS counts once not eight times. If we did that 24 would be at 234 and Miami Vice would be at 195 currently with a season and a half to go. I think Vice was at 100+ different guns before the page was split into seasons. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Reupping a-team image  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It´ll have to wait till Friday. I´ll get it done then.--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Sorry for the delay. Was away for longer then I expected. The [[A-Team%2C_The#Ruger_Mini_14_Stainless_version_with_Folding_stock|image]] has been replaced. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cherry 2000==&lt;br /&gt;
You're doing great work but you're doing too many pages at one time. I clicked on one of the images you uploaded for the film a few weeks back. It was Ben Johnson holding a SAA (I'll always remember him from The Wild Bunch), I checked the paged today it wasn't on there. I went through your uploads and found it along with another that had Brion James with a Winchester 1897. I put them on the page. You may want check your other films and see if any images are missing. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Kingdom ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any specific reason why you reverted the close-up of Sykes with the 91? And the one of the MP5? Your over-brightened (and sorta yellow-ish) shots aren't exactly better. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 12:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I personally cant see the point of using your 91 pic over the new one. It´s more detailed and you get to see the stock fully. Though in retrospective reverting the MP5 picture was a good idea indeed. And the whole .png to .jpg thing isn´t necessary for me. I own Photoshop, so I can regulate the quality of my .jpg´s fully (which is also the reason why all my uploads until yesterday were so big, I only started to use lower compression then)..--[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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VLC never made it darker for me. Are you sure that you have the video effects off? It might also simply be your screen. The brightness differs heavily between different models (there´s a massive gap between my laptop and my gaming rig in terms of contrast). --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 05:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Good Work ==&lt;br /&gt;
You're doing good work. Remember to link the movies to the guns or is that link the guns to the movies. Nevertheless keep it up. Thanks for the help.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Using Photoshop ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sounds overly complicated to me. I take the caps, work up the quality a bit, resize and save with quality compression 10. It works well enough. Though I am open to any kind of advice. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I was planning on redoing those, but lost interest that very same day. You can redo them if you want. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 06:18, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jesse Stone ==&lt;br /&gt;
Yes but I have no definite timetable. If you want to do it go for it. My ego won't be bruised. On the other hand you suck for updating [[Fort Apache, The Bronx]]. LOL. I've been planning on doing an upgrade, but I was going to borrow my father's DVD and I'm not going to be seeing him until October. But perhaps I'll see if I can get some screencaps to add at that time. As you probably noticed I've been tinkering with that page over the past couple years. It needs some work. Good job. And you are welcome. Also right back at you. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:46, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay. Not a problem. And yes I've read that there is another Stone movie coming out this year. I believe they've already filmed it. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Admin==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Ben, the thought just occurred to me...you are WAY overdue for an Administrator position offer.  Have any of the other Admins offered you the position yet?  You've been doing a lot of work on this site for a long time, so I think you've earned it.  If you want the job, I will gladly email Bunni and ask him to promote you. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guess we're getting promoted. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been invited as well. I put your name in, but it looks like somebody beat me to it. Congrats.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== All hail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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our new Ben41 admin overlord. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 16:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Carnosaur 3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, [[Carnosaur 3: Primal Species|it's]] been taken care of. How's it look now? I've also added a section about two pistols that have been at the beginning and end of the movie, I really can't tell what the are, but I think they either are:&lt;br /&gt;
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#[[Glock|Glock 17]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Beretta 92 pistol series|M9]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Taurus PT92]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[M1911A1]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here's the pictures of the pistols:&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Carnosaur3DolanPistol.jpg|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Carnosaur3HodgesPistol.jpg|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==BTW - a belated Congratulations on your promotion to Mod==&lt;br /&gt;
Now you will have to fight the trolls/idiots/fanboys even MORE! hahahahaha(evil laugh).  Congratulations!!!! MPM&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks man ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for fixing the page I created. Sorry that it wasn't up to scratch. I was just surprised that no-one else had made the page in the three years since the movies release. Appreciate it. (Gunmaster12)--[[User:Gunmaster12|Gunmaster12]] 04:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305569</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305569"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T14:12:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Film */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;                                                         [[SPENCER LOCKE]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
===Film===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Spencer Locke]]&amp;quot; ;can be seen using the following weapon(s) in the following film(s):&lt;br /&gt;
As &amp;quot;K-Mart&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;[[Winchester Model 1200/1300]]&amp;quot;. Used in the film:&amp;quot;[[Resident evil:Extinction]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor]]&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor Female]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305567</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305567"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T14:11:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Film */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;                                                         [[SPENCER LOCKE]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Film===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Spencer Locke]] ;can be seen using the following weapon(s) in the following film(s):&lt;br /&gt;
As &amp;quot;K-Mart&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;[[Winchester Model 1200/1300]]&amp;quot;. Used in the film:&amp;quot;[[Resident evil:Extinction]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor]]&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor Female]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305562</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305562"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T14:08:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Film */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;                                                         [[SPENCER LOCKE]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Film===&lt;br /&gt;
'&amp;quot;&amp;quot;Spencer Locke&amp;quot; can be seen using the following weapon(s) in the following film(s).&amp;quot;&amp;quot;'&lt;br /&gt;
As &amp;quot;K-Mart&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;[[Winchester Model 1200/1300]]&amp;quot;. Used in the film:&amp;quot;[[Resident evil:Extinction]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor]]&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor Female]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305561</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305561"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T14:07:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* Film */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;                                                         [[SPENCER LOCKE]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Film===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;'&amp;quot;Spencer Locke&amp;quot;&amp;quot; can be seen using the following weapon(s) in the following film(s).'&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
As &amp;quot;K-Mart&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;[[Winchester Model 1200/1300]]&amp;quot;. Used in the film:&amp;quot;[[Resident evil:Extinction]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor]]&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor Female]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305559</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305559"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T14:03:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;                                                         [[SPENCER LOCKE]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
===Film===&lt;br /&gt;
Spencer Locke can be seen using the following weapon(s) in the following film(s).&lt;br /&gt;
As K-Mart:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Winchester Model 1200/1300]]. Used in the film:[[Resident evil:Extinction]]&lt;br /&gt;
   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor]]&lt;br /&gt;
 [[Category:Actor Female]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305558</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305558"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T13:56:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;                                                   [[Category:Actor]] [[SPENCER LOCKE]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spencer Locke used the following weapons in the following films.&lt;br /&gt;
As K-Mart:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Winchester Model 1200/1300]]. Used in the film:[[Resident evil:Extinction]]  [[edit]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305557</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305557"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T13:52:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;                                                   [[Category:Actor]] [[SPENCER LOCKE]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spencer Locke used the following weapons in the following films.&lt;br /&gt;
As K-Mart:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Winchester Model 1200/1300]]. Used in the film:[[Resident evil:Extinction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305556</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305556"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T13:49:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;                                                   [[Category:Actor]] [[SPENCER LOCKE]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spencer Locke used the following weapons in the following films.&lt;br /&gt;
As K-Mart:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Winchester M1300 12gauge]]. Used in the film:[[Resident evil:Extinction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305555</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305555"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T13:40:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;                                                            [[SPENCER LOCKE]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spencer Locke used the following weapons in the following films.&lt;br /&gt;
As K-Mart:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Winchester M1300 12gauge]]. Used in the film:[[Resident evil:Extinction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305553</id>
		<title>Spencer Locke</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Spencer_Locke&amp;diff=305553"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T13:40:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: New page:                                                             SPENCER LOCKE    Spencer Locke used the following weapons in the following films. As K-Mart:  Winchester M1300 12gauge. Used...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;                                                            SPENCER LOCKE&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Spencer Locke used the following weapons in the following films.&lt;br /&gt;
As K-Mart:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Winchester M1300 12gauge]]. Used in the film:[[Resident evil:Extinction]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Resident_Evil:_Extinction&amp;diff=305551</id>
		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Extinction</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Resident_Evil:_Extinction&amp;diff=305551"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T13:22:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* K-Mart used the Winchester */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== I'll take the job ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No one's been bothering with this, so I've decided to take it up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hasn't anybody noticed the shotgun in Mikey's van? When the crows fly past his sensors, the alarm sounds, he wakes up and hits his head, then as he gets up you can clearly see a shotgun hanging on the ceiling of the van. At first I thought it was a Benelli semi-automatic but after I looked at it a few times I could see it was pump-action for sure. It has a pistol grip/rifle stock, and an extended magazine. I hope someone finds out what it is. (Gunmaster12)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revolvers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen a couple revolvers, but haven't gotten any good shots of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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== L85A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't help but wonder where a cowboy driving around in the Nevada desert would come upon a British army rifle... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe, for the sake of the story, he encountered British troops in the US and took it from a dead body, or got it from a guy who happens to have it, or it was HIS and he somehow aquired it. Who knows. I mean where does Alice get the ammo for her guns anyway? How did Carlos lose his Tavor? Just try not to ask the question for the sake of asking [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Alice's ammo: Probably the same place everyone else does, from raiding small towns. Carlos' Tavor: The Tavor wasn't Carlos', it was Yuri's and he probably abandoned it in Raccoon City when he ran out of ammo. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Its one thing I wondered when I first saw this article, would be fun if we could get these rifles here in the US but Britian is anti gun so they wouldn't want to help us arm ourselves. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You really wouldn't want one, I seved with one, and it jammed up on me 3 times in 2 mags - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Must be the oldies, the new ones worked fine. Only ever had 1 jam. But, I agree you wouldn't want one, stick to your M4 and M16. &lt;br /&gt;
But, back to the topic of how an L85 can end up in Yanke land - a company (Prexis?) sells something called the PR85a1 in parts of the USA. It looks like an A1, but isn't. It only works in semi-automatic. Effectivly, it is an L98'''A2''' cadet rifle, but with the externals of an L85A1 (the A2, made by HK in 2009, is capable of semi-automatic, unlike the bolt action A1 cadet rifle). From what I've been told, its almost impossible to mod it to fire on fully auto or bust. It costs quite a bit too, a few grand (£).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Took out the crossbow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why I took out the crossbow is for obvious reasons, it's NOT a firearm in any sense of the word. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
It launches a projectile, though.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:Lots of articles on this site (''[[The Punisher]]'', the ''Rambo'' series) feature bows and other weapons that are not technically firearms. The rule of thumb seems to be if a mechanically powered projectile weapon appears in a film with lots of actual firearms, said weapon can be either included or omitted at the discretion of the author.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown Revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
Chase ([[Linden Ashby]]) uses an unknown revolver to kill a zombie on the Eiffel Tower.&lt;br /&gt;
: I'm pretty sure that it was a Colt 1873 SAA or something similar.&lt;br /&gt;
::It was double action I believe. It is seen for only a split section, so I couldn't ID it myself when I watched it on TV recently. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looked like a schofield style revolver, probably 7.5&amp;quot; barrel.  If you watch closely he appears to cock it for each shot.  Look carefully when hes on the tower and fighting off the zombie, he reaches for a blued revolver with a wood handle that looks a lot like a russian or beretta laramie schofield revolver.  Just my 2cents&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:REE 049.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 464==&lt;br /&gt;
'''[moved from main page]''' --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:07, 25 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice she was loading it with what looked like 45ACP ammo??&lt;br /&gt;
-Could be chambered in the similar 45LC, Winchester 94's come in that caliber too.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What revolver is this insane survivor using ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:REELDA2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An insane survivor holds Alice's LDA, the other one has a revolver.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== K-Mart used the Winchester ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hey how come the character K-Mart (Spencer Locke) hasn't got a page? In this movie (Resident Evil: Extinction), she uses the Winchester Model 1300 12Gauge but it isn't mentioned. It happened during the Super-Undead Zombie attack, zombies come out of the container, she runs away, gets into the truck with L.J., thena zombie comes and tries to get in. She gets the shotgun, yells at L.J. &amp;quot;Get down!&amp;quot;, pumps the weapon, thenshoots the zombie in the head. She deserves the recognition for it. After all, the character is supposed to be 14 years old.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Gunmaster12</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Resident_Evil:_Apocalypse&amp;diff=305548</id>
		<title>Talk:Resident Evil: Apocalypse</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Resident_Evil:_Apocalypse&amp;diff=305548"/>
		<updated>2010-07-25T12:56:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Gunmaster12: /* HK UMP Submachinegun */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Nemesis' Minigun.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no way the Minigun itself would weigh 60-80 pounds with cut down barrels and some aluminum casing added onto it.  A real steel Dillon or GE model is about 57 pounds, and the Titanium model is about 45.  So 60-80 pounds would be pretty heavy for a Minigun.&lt;br /&gt;
:We have the armorer here on site and we are going by what he has said. Frankly having picked up a stripped down Minigun before 60 to 80 pounds is about right.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 15:59, 12 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It may have been 60-80 pounds, but that isn't &amp;quot;light&amp;quot; for a Minigun, given that GE and Dillon, you know, the guys who make the weapon, claim it's about 60 pounds at the most, minus ammo.  Now if you're including the weight of the chute and the ammo, maybe it weighs about that much, but it should be clarified that the entire system weighed 60-80 pounds versus the gun itself which probably weighed about 50.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, who deleted the info I posted about the way the gun was setup in the movie and supposed fire rate of the weapon?  Was there any reason for that?  I thought it was interesting that the movie was edited so that the weapon appears to have a very consistent fire rate of 4400 RPM.  It's not something you would notice unless you were going scene by scene and looking for it, which suggests to me it was deliberate, rather than coincidental.&lt;br /&gt;
:I did as the &amp;quot;ammo counter&amp;quot; was not hooked up to the feed system at all. basically it was a little LED counter rigged to run backwards from 5,000 or whatever number the director decided on. Thus that LED ran at whatever speed the director though looked cool. while it was attached to the weapon it had nothing to do with the rate of fire of that particular minigun. --[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 17:02, 14 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I explicitly stated that that wasn't the true fire rate.  I still thought it was interesting to note the level of detail that went into the film's post production regarding the weapon.  And I was more talking about the HUD than the ammo counter.  It's all good.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why didn't they give Jill the classic Samurai Edge(custom Beretta 92FS) as her handgun? The STARS all have this gun I don't see why the armorer couldn't get one :(&lt;br /&gt;
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Making a Samurai Edge in real life would be very expensive. Custom sights, a Brigadier slide, custom trademarks, a completely unique grip set, an extended slidestop; all of this would add up very quickly.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 18:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey if people can do it on a youtube video then the armorer should have no trouble&lt;br /&gt;
:Video? This is relevant to my interests. Can you provide a link?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 08:00, 12 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No need, just go on youtube and type &amp;quot;samurai edge&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:The &amp;quot;Samurai Edge&amp;quot;s on youtube are all fake airsoft --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 19:05, 12 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I edited name &amp;quot;Yuri Loginova&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Yuri Loginov&amp;quot;. It's a correct form of russian male name. &amp;quot;Loginova&amp;quot; is female last name. I'm russian to be sure. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pumping shotgun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:CTRes5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Charles Taylor]] points the Mossbergs as Alice. In the interview says it is very difficult to do.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Unrealistically, she can fire it one handed.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes it would be difficult, but remember she's been experimented on by Umbrella, she has heightened speed, strength, and agility.&lt;br /&gt;
:The grip is custom, so it might be easier shoot one handed with that customization.&lt;br /&gt;
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*It is possible to fire a twelve gauge shotgun one handed without injury.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, but you then hav to rack the slide to reload, so it's pointless&lt;br /&gt;
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== HK UMP Submachinegun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am SURE I sam a Umbrella trooper with a HK UMP but it isn't on the page. Please fix it. Appreciate it.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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