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We Were Soldiers

2013-05-05T21:12:49Z

Gun Shy: corrected information about use of Browning Hi-Power ~~~

[[Image:We_Were_Soldiers_Poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''We Were Soldiers'' (2002)]]

'''We Were Soldiers''' is a 2002 Vietnam War film directed by Randall Wallace (''[[The Man in the Iron Mask]]'') and stars [[Mel Gibson]], [[Barry Pepper]] and [[Sam Elliott]]. The film is based on the book ''We Were Soldiers Once...And Young'' by Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, US Army (ret.) and former UPI reporter Joe Galloway (played by Gibson and Pepper respectively) that chronicled the first major battle between the United States Army and the People's Army of Vietnam in the Ia Drang Valley in the Central Highlands of Vietnam. Gen. Moore, in the documentary seen on the DVD, states that this film is the only one which gets "[the Vietnam War] right."

Although the battle would last more than 300 days, the movie covers only the initial engagement, the first time the US used the Air Mobile Infantry (called "the helicopter soldiers" by a Vietnamese officer) in combat. Over 3 days, Moore's regiment suffered the loss of 72 out of his 395 men and were responsible for over 1800 enemy soldiers KIA out of 4,000. The utterly lop-sided casualty figures helped to convince Defense Secretary Robert McNamara and Vietnam theater commander Gen. William Westmoreland that the communist North Vietnamese could be persuaded to give up their attempt to conquer the South using attrition tactics. Events, of course, would prove this strategy disastrous.

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''We Were Soldiers'':'''
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==XM16E1 Rifle==
The [[M16 rifle series#XM16E1 Rifle|XM16E1 assault rifles]] are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings (Robert Bagnell), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most U.S. Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. Many rifles used in this movie were not actual XM16E1s. The historical XM16E1s had only a partial magazine fence. Many rifles were actually M16A1s mocked up to look like XM16E1s, modified with chromed bolt carriers and 3 prong flash hiders. Apparently there were a few original receiver marked XM16E1s in the mix.
[[Image:XM16E1 WeWereSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Screen used XM16E1 rifle''' (Hero Gun), carried and fired by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - 5.56x45mm. This rifle was built from an M16A1 and modified with a chromed bolt carrier and 2nd pattern three prong flash hider.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"I will be the first to set foot on the field." Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on LZ X-Ray carrying his XM16E1. ]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of LZ X-Ray.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Savage ([[Ryan Hurst]]) and his men engage the enemy with their XM16E1s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91374.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Robert Ouellette (Josh Daugherty) holds an XM16E1.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-95915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A U.S. Army Private fires his XM16E1 from Crandall's Huey.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) with his XM16E1 at the ready.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-131762.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two wounded US Army specialists with their XM16E1s at the ready.]]
[[Image:WWS027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moore opens fire with the XM16E1 during the film's final bayonet charge. In reality, this last-ditch assault on the Vietnamese reserve at L-Z X-Ray did not happen; there was no heroic final charge at the battle, nor were the forces of the North Vietnamese destroyed as in the film. In fact, combat continued at a neighbouring landing zone where an entire US battalion was ambushed and virtually annihilated. Director Randall Wallace mentions this inaccuracy in the DVD commentary.]]

==M16 Rifle==
Supplementing the large number of XM16E1 rifles built for the production by Cinema Weaponry are some slab side [[M16|M16 rifles]] (or unaltered Colt SP1 rifles, which look the same). To the left of the stack (in the screencap) is a slab sided rifle with no forward assist on the upper receiver or magazine fencing on the lower receiver.
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The original M16 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106476.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A stack of XM16s from the battle. Visible are unaltered M16/SP1 slab sided rifles.]]

==M1 Carbine==
A Korean War-era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam, the formal title of South Vietnam) interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS M1Carbine02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds an M1 Carbine to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineHeloA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his M1 Carbine.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An NVA lookout is apprehended. The ARVN translator holds his M1 Carbine at the enemy soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter wielding an M1 Carbine interrogates the NVA soldier. Note that it is not an M2 Carbine due to the lack of a selector switch.]]
[[Image:WWS-M1CarbineARVN04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The South Vietnamese interpreter points his M1 Carbine at the captured NVA soldier. Note the bayonet lug.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well. Specialist 4 Russell Adams and his assistant gunner Specialist 4 Bill Beck also use an M60 in a deleted scene.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiresA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An M60 team lays down fire.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|US soldiers train with their M60s.]]
[[Image:WWS-M60FiringRangeBlanksA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the M60 during the training. The filmmakers cleverly lay real 7.62x51 casings in the foreground, which is a testament for their eye to detail. During filming, however, brass from the expended 'star crimped' blanks unavoidably flies out of the weapon.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39994.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FPS view of an M60 firing in training.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75605.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-91127.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60 is seen with the bipod down during one of the training exercises.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-102263.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner is shot inside the helicopter while holding an M60 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106362.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A door gunner fires his M60.]]

==M1911==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 over the M-16; When Moore praises the latter, Plumley says, "Bah, it's plastic...feels like a bb gun to me. I think I'll stick with my pistol." It is not common to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley, since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War II and the Korean War, however they did appear on occasion, usually under special circumstances.
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gentleman, prepare to defend yourselves!" Plumley cocks his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-137131.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley reloads his M1911.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-155397.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Plumley fires his M1911.]]

==M1911A1==
A Colt [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie. Some soldiers use the M1911A1s.

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, used and carried by [[Mel Gibson]] in the film - .45 ACP. Weapons provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-133597.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier with his M1911A1.]]

==M26 Hand Grenades==
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches.
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A production photo of Captain Tony Nadal ([[Jsu Garcia]]) and his RTO patrol the battlefield with M16s in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches. Note the trigger discipline - fingers resting alongside the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93047.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Members of Sgt. Savage's squad drag a wounded soldier to cover. Three M26 grenades can be seen attached to webbing.]]

==PPSh-41==
The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie, with both the standard drum magazine and 35-round box magazines.
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPsh41DrumRunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot by the French officer while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:WWS-PPSH41KillShota.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]]
[[Image:Ppsh41-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 with 35-round box magazine]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS41RunHill02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35-round box magazine.]]

==PPS-43==
The Viet Minh uses [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPS-43|PPS-43]] submachine guns along side their SKS's and PPSh-41s to kill the French soldiers in the intro sequence that takes place in 1954 in the Indochina War. During the rest of the movie, the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam, the formal name of the PAVN. Also known as the North Vietnamese Army or NVA.) and Vietcong (Informal name for the National Liberation Front, or NLF.) use the PPS-43 sub machine guns against US Army soldiers in the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An PPS-43 submachine gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:WWS-PPS43RunHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26359.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Viet Minh soldier carrying a PPS-43 gets shot during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31089.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier gets blown up by a French grenade while his PPS-43 falls to the ground.]]

==AK-47==
In the film, the NVA (North Vietnamese Army) aka the PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) used [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. As per the actual battle, we also see several Viet Cong units carrying the same rifle. Real Soviet AK-47s were impossible to get in the U.S. for many years. After the fall of communism, milled receiver AK-47 parts kits were available on the market, and authentic AK-47s were built for the film (using American made milled receivers using the proper markings) and the original Soviet built parts. The AK-47s used in the movie were built by legendary Movie Armorer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac].
[[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|'''Actual Screen used AK-47''' from the film [[We Were Soldiers]] (built by Cinema Weaponry) - 7.62x39mm. The armorers ran out of time before they could fully finish the finish on the wood forearm, pistol grips and stocks for the film.]]
[[Image:WWS AK47Hilla.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]]
[[Image:WWS-AK47NightA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128590.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong gets shot and drops his AK-47. Note bayonet attached.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam) soldier reloads his AK-47.]]
[[Image:Pavn.ak-47.bayonet.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and tries to bayonet Lt. Col. Moore.]]
[[Image:pavn.soldier.shot.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from Moore's XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pile of AK-47s.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-106465.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of the AK-47 carried by an NVA soldier who gets killed by the charging Americans. Note how the safety is on.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158182.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier aims his AK-47 at the US Army soldiers when they charge on the NVA position.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier gets killed by the Huey helicopters and their M134 miniguns. All while still firing his AK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114077.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same NVA soldier from the above screen-cap gets thrown across a wagon. Notice how he has his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_helmet Pith helmet] back on.]]

==M79 Grenade Launcher==
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum ([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40x46mm grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carrying an M79 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93116.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An American grenadier gets shot while holding his M79.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-40534.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bungum's M79 slung over his back.]]

==MAS-36 Rifle==
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various French soldiers use [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MAS-36 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Fireball.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MASRifle02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.]]
[[Image:WWS-MAS36Shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall ([[Greg Kinnear]]) is most likely a Smith & Wesson Model 15 snubnose. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 with 2" barrel - .38 Special.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Model 153 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]]
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the balls to face the enemy?!" Crandall pulls his Model 15 after he gets reprimanded by a medevac pilot.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113651.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene.]]

==GE M134 Minigun==
A pair of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The AirCav officers admire the M134 Minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-114448.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One Huey helicopter fires its mounted M134.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-117926.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A M134 Minigun mounted on a UH-1 helicopter.]]

==M1928A1 Thompson==
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a ARVN soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine.
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round box magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Gary Owen!" An ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson as well as other U.S. soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang Valley.]]

==Browning M1919A4==
Two [[Browning M1919A4]]s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
[[File:M1919A4 pintle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919A4 on an M31C pedestal mount - .30-06]]
[[Image:WWS-Browning30Cal.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]]

==MAT-49==
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Screen used MAT-49 submachine gun from the film - 9x19mm Parabellum (provided by Cinema Weaponry)]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screen-cap.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]]

==RPG-2==
An NVA rocketeer is seen firing an [[RPG-2]] (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) against the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect the shooter from the blast when firing the rocket.
[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]]
[[Image:WWS.rpg-2.shot.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces. The soldier is wearing a protective hood and goggles worn to protect himself from the blast when firing the rocket.]]

==SKS Rifle==
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use [[SKS rifle]]s during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the background.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKSVietMinh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-SKS01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh officer picks up an French Bungle during the intro.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-center is armed with a SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with an SKS rifle.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]]
[[Image:Sks.124564367.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force planes.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier armed with an SKS creeps through the dark.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92508.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers tending after their DShK. Which is in reality an American M2. The soldier on the left has an SKS. The one on the right has an AK-47 like the rest of the NVA soldiers in the background.]]

==Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine==
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M44 carbine]].
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-M44Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldier in the center of the screen-cap has an M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]]

==Karabiner 98k==
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. It should be noted that according to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-K98Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong with a Kar98k.]]

==M1A1 "Bazooka"==
A Viet Minh soldier uses an [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M1A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M1A1 "Bazooka"]] with a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be an anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M9A1 "Bazooka" (2.36" Rocket)|M9A1 "Bazookas"]] and [[M1 Rocket Launcher "Bazooka"#M20 "Super Bazooka" (3.5" Rocket)|M20 "Super Bazooka"]] during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavenged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1A1 "Bazooka" 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:WWS-RocketLauncherA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 "Bazooka". Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]]

==Degtyaryov DP-28 Machine Gun==
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a variant of the Soviet [[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyaryov light machine gun]].
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP-28 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:WWS-DP28.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]]

==RPD Light Machine Gun==
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an [[RPD light machine gun]].
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [RPD to the left of the screen-cap.]]

==ZB26 Light Machine Gun==
A [[ZB26 Machine Gun]] is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. According to Steve Karnes, the movie's Armorer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver. Another one is used by an Vietcong fighter during the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ia_Drang Battle of Ia Drang].
[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|ZB26 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26-01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the ZB26 in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-ZB26 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene]]

==MG34 Machine Gun==
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an [[MG34]] machine gun before they get killed by the Huey helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man an MG34 machine gun.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
A fake [[DShK heavy machine gun]] is seen manned by an NVA machine gun team in the final battle before being wasted by the Huey helicopters. The DShK seen in the film is actually an [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] machine gun mocked up to look like a DShK.
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG on M3 tripod.]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DShK 12.7x109mm on tripod.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-157072.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PAVN soldier cocks the fake DShK in the final sequence of the movie. Note the M2 charging handle in the right side of the receiver, showing that the DShK is actually a Browning M2HB.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA machine gun team from the above screencap aims the fake DShK.]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-119805.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2HB after the machine gun team gets killed by the UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.]]

== Hispano-Suiza HS.404 ==

The M2 autocannon, the American license-built version of the [[Hispano-Suiza HS.404]] appears in the film as the gun armament of US Air Force A-1H "Sandy" ground-attack planes that respond to the "broken arrow" call, making strafing runs on advancing Vietnamese infantry.

[[Image:Hispano Suiza HS404.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hispano-Suiza HS.404 20mm with ammo drum]]

== Colt Mk 12 Cannon ==

The [[Colt Mk 12 cannon]] can be seen in the film as the gun armament on a US Navy A-4 Skyhawk responding to the "broken arrow" call, strafing enemy infantry during low-level passes.

[[Image:ColtMk12.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Mk 12 cannon 20mm with ammo belt]]

==Browning Hi-Power Pistol==
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer (Foreign Legionnaire) uses his sidearm, a [[Browning Hi-Power]], to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself. The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is an error. The armorers couldn't get an appropriate French military pistol and since Hi-Powers were at the region, the armorers used those instead.
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerFires.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A French Army (Foreign Legionnaire) officer fires his Browning Hi-Power at a Viet Minh soldier.]]
[[Image:WWS-BrowningHiPowerBayo.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer (Foreign Legionnaire) gets stabbed by a Viet Minh soldier while holding his Browning Hi-Power.
Note: In the actual ambush(es), they were not Legionaires, and successfully withdrew from the area, though suffering severe casualties.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==
A wounded NVA soldier is seen throwing an [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] (known during the war as "Willie Pete") at Sergeant Forrester, severely wounding him.
[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|151px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93657.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The NVA soldier, covered in blood and burn marks, prepares to toss the M34 grenade.]]

==Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade==
Chinese Type 67 Stick Grenade (aka Chinese Type II Grenades) are seen in chest pouches on NVA soldiers and in one scene is thrown near wounded American Soldiers. A brave soldier jumps on it to save his comrades.
[[Image:WWS-ChicomGrenadePouch.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Seen on the dead NVA soldiers is a chest pouch with Type 67 Stick Grenades]]
[[Image:WWS-ChicomType2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A GI sees a Type 67 Stick Grenade as it hits the ground nearby]]

==Winchester Model 12 Field Gun==
In a deleted scene, Bungum's wife uses a [[Winchester Model 1912|Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun]] to shoot skeet.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912FieldGun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester M1912 Field Gun in 12 gauge]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum is seen first firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]
[[Image:WWS-FieldGun2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Specialist Bungum's wife firing the Winchester Model 12 Take Down Field Gun - 12 ga]]

==Notes==
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops:
# No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) would have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers)
# The red berets are worn the wrong way (Insignia on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets)
# Insignia on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers)

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Talk:We Were Soldiers

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Gun Shy: /* Browning Hi-Power */ new section

== About the ARVN Interpreter ==

He is an ARVN Ranger. He has the ARVN Ranger patch on his uniform.

== About The ARVN Soldier ==

He's ARVN, note the beret [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
:You´r right. I Dont really know much about the ARVN. [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]]

== About the XM16A1 ==

These are actually M16E1s, which were available to the men of the 1st Cavalry Division at the time of the Battle of Ia Drang and therefore not an anachronism. The M16E1 (sometimes also known as the XM16E1) was a variant of the M16 that featured a forward assist but maintained the three-pronged flashhider of the original M16. If you look closly in some of the posted photographs as well as throughout the film, this is readily apparent.[[User:SAWGunner89|SAWGunner89]] 20:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:You´r right too. I never noticed the forward assist on the pre-1967 M16.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]]

== SKS Rilfes ==

You see an SKS here and there in the hands of North Vietnamese soldiers and on the pile of guns at the end of the film.

== Need Help ==

I need help identifying the guns in those screencaps: The Mosin-Nagant is a Model 44 not sure about the country of origin but can check during the week. The Mauser is a K98K that came from Israel chamber for 7.62 NATO we used in the location. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

(comment-Yeah the Mosin is a M44. I would recognize that gun anywhere.-S&Wshooter)

I need help identifying the mosin-nagant that the Viet Minh is carrying in the centre and the mauser rifle the Viet Minh is carrying in the right side.
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|500px|I think the rifle the vietcong fighter is carrying in this screencap is the same mauser rifle from the screencap above.]]

Need Help identifying the rocket launcher in the screencap below. The Rocket Launcher is a M1A1 Bazooka it has only one forward grip and a modified rear sight.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23699.jpg|thumb|none|500px|.]]

I need help identifying what kind of mosin-nagants are those in the screencaps below. These are M91/38 Carbines used on the show we also had M91/30 rifles.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

[[Image:Vlcsnap-30819.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26471.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
::Steve, could you tell me at what part in the movie do M91/30 rifles appear? I didn't see them.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:We had them on the truck and issued them to background but not sure if they made it to the final cut. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
::Those two Mosin Nagants in the above pictures are M91/30 rifles or M91/38 rifles?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
I need help identifying the machine gun being carried by the Viet Minh soldier in the screencaps below.
:It is a Czech [[ZB26]] sold the the Chinese and was converted to 7.62x39 later in it's life. The weapon has Chinese characters on the side of the receiver.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

[[Image:Vlcsnap-34273.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34330.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the mosin-nagant in the background.]]

I need help identifying the pistol that the french officer uses in the intro sequence. I will get back to you on this one later.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Went back and looked at the weapons list for the film it was a Browning Hi Power since we were unable to get a French MAB and HiPowers were in the region at that time. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

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[[Image:Vlcsnap-31533.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

I need help identifying the grenade in the screencap below. The grenade is a Chinese Type 67 Hand Grenade.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

[[Image:Vlcsnap-134626.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

I need help identifying the machine gun carried by the NVA soldier in the left-centre of the screencap. I think it might be a RPD but i am not sure. The weapon is a RPD that the NVA soldier is carrying. Loaded many belts for the weapon during filming. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

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I also need help identifying what kind of degtyaryov machine gun is in the screencaps below. The weapon is a DP-28 that we used on the show. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

[[Image:Vlcsnap-164041.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

I think i gonna need Steve to help me in this one.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

In the foreground is one of our DP-28's and the Huey gunship has two M134 miniguns supplied by Dillon Aero for the film. [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Taken from the main article ==

[[Image:Vlcsnap-132650.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Joe Galloway([[Barry Pepper]]) with his XM16E1 at the ready. He has a pretty good grip for someone that is not a soldier.]]
::He was a non combatant Army soldier, who mostly likley fired that or the M14 during basic. He knows how to shoot. I.E. Saving Private Ryan."- Tyler Durden

::Actually during the battle of Ia drang Joe Galloway carried a XM16E1 and a revolver for self-defense and before going in the battle he was trained on how to use it while in the movie he goes to the battlefield empty handed.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
==Mosin Rifles==
I really feel for the poor sons of bitches that got stuck with the M44's. That gun is a monster to shoot and the bolt is the exact opposite of smooth-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:24, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

==MG34==
How did the VC get the German weapons?Did they get it from the Soviet Union who scavenged it from German troops during WW2? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yep, that's where they got the Kar98ks and MP40s. Both were common in the hands of NVA and Victor Charlie troops in the Nam. They also got some K98ks from China.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::A lot of surplus German weapons were handed out to other countries and resistance movements by the USSR in the 1950s and 1960s. I have seen photos of MG34 and MG42 machine guns in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia. Even captured tanks were sent to other countries. PzKpfw IV (Panzer-IV) tanks were sent (sold?) to Syria and used against Israel. So a MG34 appearing in Indo-China in that period is not only historically correct, but a good example of attention to detail by the producers and movie armorers. (Wraith)

== Almost Finished ==
I'm almost finished with this. I only need to find out about the Mosin Nagants and put pictures of the Miniguns and the grenades and some other things.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Screencap Describtions==

Who added the stupid-ass describtions under the screencaps that have absolutly no relation to the movie? -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
:::I agree, Dumbass sarcastic remarks are stupid. Made by guys who like to belittle a film based on a single FRAME of film. BTW, people in the industry do look at this site, and those dumbass sarcastic comments do rub them the wrong way. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
::::I suppose you hate the [[Far Cry 2]] comments too.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:17, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't look at VG game pages as a rule. I have absolutely no interest in them. But I glanced at it, but there is a big difference. On movie pages you're insulting real people who actually look at this site, on a video game page, comments usually are insulting bad decisions in development or game play or artwork which is not the same as insulting a human being. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:11, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, but we are insulting a human being's work. Anyway, i see the difference and i see that i taking the Far Cry 2 article as a reference was foolish. I also asked Vangelis to do that because the captions were getting boring and generic. Ben41 fixed that though.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:39, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree that making jabs and jokes about the actors or the guns and whatnot is bad taste for a war movie, or any movie based on actual events. However, Oliveia has a point. If it isn't fine to make fun of film depictions of guns, then it's not fine for anything. Especially if we consider that holding a gun correctly takes all of five seconds to figure out if you ask the right person, making an accurate gun model in a videogame takes countless hours depending on the complexity, and this isn't even considering all the people responsible for creating a finished product: concept artists, modelers, texture artists, animators, and for that matter, the people who decide what guns are going to be in a game in the first place. So in other words, a typical mistake in a movie takes one man to create and would be easy to fix(before filming is finished), while a mistake in a game could be any one person in the pipeline, and would take good time to fix, yet it's okay to ridicule ''all'' of them despite developers having to ''create everything from nothing''. What I'm trying to say is this: ''actors deserve ridicule for bad handling more than developers do for bad gun modeling''. Developers are real people too, only we can't see their faces in the finished product. Regardless, a war movie like this is the wrong place for such comments.--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 22:48, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
: I did, because Oliveira asked me to when he was updating the article. To be honest, I wasn't that sure about some of them, though in many cases the captions they replaced were useless to the point of being insulting (describing what was obviously going on in the shot, typically, as if we write captions for the selectively blind). Also, pointing out people in the background are grinning like idiots ''does'' have something to do with the movie, much like pointing out people have very poor weapon handling skills does (and is done on many other pages). [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 20:37, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:Also, the captions are hilarious-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:39, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::I am sorry, I too feel that they are somewhat inappropriate. I realize that it is a movie, but these are not fictional characters, they are based on real people. I feel those regarding the wounded are espiecially inappropriate. If you wish to find hilarity, watch a comedy, this is a serious war film and this is a serious webpage regarding it, so let the content reflect that. User:SAWGunner89|SAWGunner89]] 07:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
::I actually had the idea of the descriptions because the movie is depressing as all hell.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
:Well thats war for you. This is one of the more accurate war movie in Hollywood and it is susposed to be depressing. The dumb comments are rude and dishonorable to the vets and men who died. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

== Safety First. ==

Anyone notice that in two of the AK47 screencaps the safeties are on in combat situations?

== M1911 (moved from main) ==
:No, he really did that-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::Wait, Plumley actually carried a M1911 not an M1911A1 in the battle?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
No, he didn't use an M16 because it looked too flimsy-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::Oh. Okey then. I wasn't saying he used and M16. I was just saying that he probably used an M1911A1.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:37, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 19:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::Sam Elliot carried an M1911 NOT an M1911A1 in the film. that is 100% confirmed. Mel Gibson did carry an M1911A1, but Elliot carried the M1911. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:14, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:::I was refering to the real battle.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I am guessing this, dont take my word, but I think The real Plumley used an M1911A1. If it was easy to aquire a regular M1911 during the early 1960s then it could be likely, but I doubt this. It is true though that the real Plumley didnt use an M16.

Bare in mind Plumley was a World War II vet as well. He could have had an original M1911 issued to him around that time. It's unlikely but he enlisted in 1942 which was close to the height of WWII, maybe they ran out of M1911A1s and issued him an original M1911. Or maybe the film makers gave him an M1911 to further distinguish him from the young grunts. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:30, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

== Crandall's Revolver ==

The revolver uses by Crandall is a Model 15 with 2 inches barrel and not a Model 13. When Major Crandall points his snub are clearly visible 3 important details: adjustable rear sight, a linear profile that continue upside the 2 inches barrel and Baughman front sight. All particulars that the model 13 does not have. However the Model 15 snub is still accurate because some M15 were produced in short version for the pilots.--[[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] 15:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:RevolverSoldiers.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Note the details.]]
[[Image:M15M07.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Model 15 with 2 inch barrel.]]
[[Image:M13air.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 13 Lightweight Revolver.]]

== MAT-49 ==

I can't tell if some of the MAT-49's used by the commies in the movie are 9mm or 7.62mm Soviet. You can tell if a MAT-49 is chambered in 7.62mm if it's barrel is longer. I really doubt that Hollywood would have such a rare gun (just were the hell would they get it? Off một VC đã chết?) Can somebody please tell me if if looks like this. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 19:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:MAT-49 7.62mm Soviet.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A rare MAT-49 SMG captured by Communist Forces during the French-Indochina War and converted to 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]

:The MAT-49s converted to 7.62x25 not only had a longer barrel, but the magazine was curved as well. (Wraith)

==No Jams? ==
I would like to start off by saying this was a great movie, but I was suprised that the movie didn't show any of the M16's jamming. Weren't they infamous for jamming in Vietnam? --[[User:MarineCorps1|MarineCorps1]] 23:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
::Only after weeks/months in the field with bad ball powder and misinformed GIs NOT CLEANING their guns. These guys just came off a forward base, they were elite soldiers and probably CLEANED their weapons before battle. The guns would not have jammed on the first three days of battle. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
*In 1965 the tales of the M-16 jamming were rife in the news media. The General's original book made no mention of jamming whatsoever. I've heard someone who was in the 173rd on Okinawa and with the initial deployment to Vietnam being told the weapon was "self cleaning" with them soon finding out that wasn't true scoop. I also believe an original issue steel 'waffle design' magazine had problems.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 21:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== Need Help Identifying Stuntmen ==

:If anyone could help me identify some of the unknown actors or various other stunt men (whether Viet Cong or Marines), that would be absolutely helpful so thanks in advance. --[[User:Gunman5|Gunman5]] ([[User talk:Gunman5|talk]]) 05:02, 24 November 2012 (EST)

== Browning Hi-Power ==

If the pistol in the movie being used by the French Foreign Legion officer is a Hi-Power, it is not the version illustrated. Note the distinctive "hump" at the rear of the slide, below the sights, visible in the screen shots. This would be characteristic of early Hi-Powers (such as the Inglis production for Allies during WWII, which became the Canadian and British standard sidearm), but not the version shown. During the war in IndoChina, French forces were armed with a variety of weapons, including large numbers of surplus WWII Allied and Axis firearms, as the French military gradually resupplied itself with French arms. Browning Hi-Powers were used by both sides during WWII, and were among the surplus pistols used by the French army.

Otherwise, the pistol looks similar to a French army model 1935S or 9mm 1950 (aka MAC 50, which was based on the 1935S), both of which have a similar "hump" and were in use in the IndoChina wars. Of these, the long grip is more characteristic of the model 1950, although obtaining those is very difficult.

BTW, I have corrected the comment about the movie makers being unable to get a MAB so instead using a Hi-Power. The .32 MAB model D (the only MAB pistol used by the French army) was used only as a stopgap while production of the more powerful 1935A & 1935S ramped up to meet military needs when WWII started (in Europe) in 1939 and in the immediate post-war years. By the time of this ambush (1954) the MAB had been retired from use as an army sidearm, although it was popular with French colonial soldiers and Legionaires as a privately-owned personal weapon. [[User:Gun Shy|Gun Shy]] ([[User talk:Gun Shy|talk]])

French M1935 Pistols

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Gun Shy: ~~~

'''The models 1935A and 1935S are two separate pistols, both designed in response to a 1935 French military competition, and were intended to become the standard French military sidearm. Unfortunately, production, which began in 1937, was inadequate to meet military needs as WWII began in Europe in 1939. During the German occupation of France the 1935A was kept in production by the German army for use by its forces (the second 1935A image is of a German occupation pistol), while production of the 1935S ceased until the liberation of France in 1944. During the post-war years, these were the official French military sidearms, although extensively supplemented by other pistols (MAB model Ds, Unique model Rs, and surplus WWII Allied and Axis sidearms) until production was sufficient to meet French needs. These pistols were not completely replaced by the model 1950 in French military use until about 1970, and also saw extensive service with the Gendarmerie. The 1935A was the design basis for the Swiss 9mm SIG P210, and the 1935S was the design basis for the 9mm French model 1950 (aka MAC 50).

The French SACM M1935A and MAS M1935S have been used by the following actors in the following movies, television series, anime, and video games:'''

=SACM M1935A=
== Specifications ==
[[Image:SACM-M1935A.jpg|thumb|right|400px|French SACM M1935A Pistol - 7.65 MAS/7.65 x 22mm Longue]]
[[Image:SACMModel1935A.jpg|right|400px|thumb|SACM Model 1935A Pistol - 7.65 MAS/.32 ACP Long]]
'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 7.65 MAS/ .32 ACP Long

'''Capacity:''' 8 Rounds

'''Length:''' 194mm

'''Barrel Length:''' 110mm

'''Weight:''' 670 grams empty / 815 grams loaded

'''Operation:''' Semiautomatic Pistol. Browning Swinging Toggle Link Action.

'''Produced:''' Designed by Charles Petter, manufactured by Societe Alsacienne de Constructions Mecaniques (SACM) 1937-1950

=MAS M1935S=
== Specifications ==
[[Image:French_MAS_M1935S_M1_-_7.65_x_22mm_Longue_01.jpg‎|right|400px|thumb|French MAS M1935S Pistol, 7.65 MAS/.32 ACP Long]]
[[Image:French_MAS_M1935S_M1_-_7.65_x_22mm_Longue_02.jpg‎|right|400px|thumb|French MAS M1935S Pistol, 7.65 MAS/7.65 x 22mm Longue]]

'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 7.65 MAS/ .32 ACP Long

'''Capacity:''' 8 Rounds

'''Length:''' 188mm

'''Barrel Length:''' 106mm

'''Weight:''' 770 grams empty / 915 grams loaded

'''Operation:''' Semiautomatic Pistol. Browning Swinging Toggle Link Action.

'''Produced:''' Designed by Manufacture National d'Armes de Saint Etienne (MAS), manufactured by MAS 1939-1940, 1944; Manu-France (MF) 1944-1945; Maunfacture Nationale d'Armes de Chatellerault (MAC) 1945-1956; Manufacture Nationale d'Armes de Tulle (MAT) 1945-1956; Societe d'Applications Generales d'Electrique et de Mecanique (SAGEM)1945-1951.

=Film=
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="230"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[John Gavin]] || Hubert Bonisseur alias OSS 117 || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Guido Alberti]] || Faruk Melik || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Giovanni Pallavicino]] || Assassin || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Emilio Messina]] || Assassin || || 1968
|-
| ''[[Assassination, The (Atentát)|The Assassination (Atentát)]]'' || [[Rudolf Jelínek]] || Sgt. Ota Strnad || || 1969
|-
| ''[[Army of Shadows]]'' || [[Jean-Pierre Cassel]] || Sean-François Jardie || || 1969
|-
| ''[[How I Unleashed World War II]]'' || [[Joanna Jedryka]] || Teresa || || 1970
|-
| ''[[Police Python 357]]'' || [[Mathieu Carrière]] || Inspector Ménard || || 1976
|-
| ''[[Wild Geese, The|The Wild Geese]]'' || [[Roger Moore]] || Lt. Shaun Flynn || || 1979
|-
| ''[[The Dogs of War]]'' || [[Jean-François Stévenin]] || Michel || || 1981
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || [[Tom Hardy]] || Pascal Dupont || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || [[Paul Fox]] || Simon Murray || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || || French Foreign Legionnaires || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Days of Glory (2006)|Days of Glory]]'' || || Colonial Tirailleur || || 2006
|-
|}
 

== Video Games ==
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[World War II Online: Battleground Europe]]'' || . || . || . || 2001-2012
|-
|}

 
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

French M1935 Pistols

2013-05-05T19:48:19Z

Gun Shy: added model 1935S information & images ~~~

'''The French SACM M1935A and MAS M1935S have been used by the following actors in the following movies, television series, anime, and video games:'''

=SACM M1935A=
== Specifications ==
[[Image:SACM-M1935A.jpg|thumb|right|400px|French SACM M1935A Pistol - 7.65 MAS/7.65 x 22mm Longue]]
[[Image:SACMModel1935A.jpg|right|400px|thumb|SACM Model 1935A Pistol - 7.65 MAS/.32 ACP Long]]
'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 7.65 MAS/ .32 ACP Long

'''Capacity:''' 8 Rounds

'''Length:''' 194mm

'''Barrel Length:''' 110mm

'''Weight:''' 670 grams empty / 815 grams loaded

'''Operation:''' Semiautomatic Pistol. Browning Swinging Toggle Link Action.

'''Produced:''' Designed by Charles Petter, manufactured by Societe Alsacienne de Constructions Mecaniques (SACM) 1937-1950

=MAS M1935S=
== Specifications ==
[[Image:French_MAS_M1935S_M1_-_7.65_x_22mm_Longue_01.jpg‎|right|400px|thumb|French MAS M1935S Pistol, 7.65 MAS/.32 ACP Long]]
[[Image:French_MAS_M1935S_M1_-_7.65_x_22mm_Longue_02.jpg‎|right|400px|thumb|French MAS M1935S Pistol, 7.65 MAS/7.65 x 22mm Longue]]

'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 7.65 MAS/ .32 ACP Long

'''Capacity:''' 8 Rounds

'''Length:''' 188mm

'''Barrel Length:''' 106mm

'''Weight:''' 770 grams empty / 915 grams loaded

'''Operation:''' Semiautomatic Pistol. Browning Swinging Toggle Link Action.

'''Produced:''' Designed by Manufacture National d'Armes de Saint Etienne (MAS), manufactured by MAS 1939-1940, 1944; Manu-France (MF) 1944-1945; Maunfacture Nationale d'Armes de Chatellerault (MAC) 1945-1956; Manufacture Nationale d'Armes de Tulle (MAT) 1945-1956; Societe d'Applications Generales d'Electrique et de Mecanique (SAGEM)1945-1951.

=Film=
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="230"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[John Gavin]] || Hubert Bonisseur alias OSS 117 || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Guido Alberti]] || Faruk Melik || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Giovanni Pallavicino]] || Assassin || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Emilio Messina]] || Assassin || || 1968
|-
| ''[[Assassination, The (Atentát)|The Assassination (Atentát)]]'' || [[Rudolf Jelínek]] || Sgt. Ota Strnad || || 1969
|-
| ''[[Army of Shadows]]'' || [[Jean-Pierre Cassel]] || Sean-François Jardie || || 1969
|-
| ''[[How I Unleashed World War II]]'' || [[Joanna Jedryka]] || Teresa || || 1970
|-
| ''[[Police Python 357]]'' || [[Mathieu Carrière]] || Inspector Ménard || || 1976
|-
| ''[[Wild Geese, The|The Wild Geese]]'' || [[Roger Moore]] || Lt. Shaun Flynn || || 1979
|-
| ''[[The Dogs of War]]'' || [[Jean-François Stévenin]] || Michel || || 1981
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || [[Tom Hardy]] || Pascal Dupont || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || [[Paul Fox]] || Simon Murray || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || || French Foreign Legionnaires || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Days of Glory (2006)|Days of Glory]]'' || || Colonial Tirailleur || || 2006
|-
|}
 

== Video Games ==
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Appears as '''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[World War II Online: Battleground Europe]]'' || . || . || . || 2001-2012
|-
|}

 
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

File:French MAS M1935S M1 - 7.65 x 22mm Longue 02.jpg

2013-05-05T19:34:01Z

Gun Shy: Category:Gun Image

[[Category:Gun Image]]

File:French MAS M1935S M1 - 7.65 x 22mm Longue 01.jpg

2013-05-05T19:33:26Z

Gun Shy: Category:Gun Image

[[Category:Gun Image]]

French M1935 Pistols

2013-05-05T19:08:33Z

Gun Shy:

'''The French SACM M1935A and MAS M1935S have been used by the following actors in the following movies, television series, anime, and video games:'''

=SACM M1935A=
== Specifications ==
[[Image:SACM-M1935A.jpg|thumb|right|400px|French SACM M1935A Pistol - 7.65 x 22mm Longue]]
[[Image:SACMModel1935A.jpg|right|400px|thumb|SACM Model 1935A Pistol, 7.65 MAS/.32 ACP Long]]
'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 7.65 MAS/ .32 ACP Long

'''Capacity:''' 8 Rounds

'''Length:''' 194mm

'''Barrel Length:''' 110mm

'''Weight:''' 670 grams empty / 815 grams loaded

'''Operation:''' Semiautomatic Pistol. Browning Swinging Toggle Link Action.

'''Produced:''' Designed by Charles Petter, manufactured by Societe Alsacienne de Constructions Mecaniques (SACM) 1937-1950

=MAS M1935S=
== Specifications ==
[[Image:SACM-M1935A.jpg|thumb|right|400px|French SACM M1935A Pistol - 7.65 x 22mm Longue]]
[[Image:SACMModel1935A.jpg|right|400px|thumb|SACM Model 1935A Pistol, 7.65 MAS/.32 ACP Long]]
'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 7.65 MAS/ .32 ACP Long

'''Capacity:''' 8 Rounds

'''Length:''' 188mm

'''Barrel Length:''' 106mm

'''Weight:''' 770 grams empty / 915 grams loaded

'''Operation:''' Semiautomatic Pistol. Browning Swinging Toggle Link Action.

'''Produced:''' Designed by Manufacture National d'Armes de Saint Etienne (MAS), manufactured by MAS 1939-1940, 1944; Manu-France (MF) 1944-1945; Maunfacture Nationale d'Armes de Chatellerault (MAC) 1945-1956; Manufacture Nationale d'Armes de Tulle (MAT) 1945-1956; Societe d'Applications Generales d'Electrique et de Mecanique (SAGEM)1945-1951.

=Film=
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="230"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[John Gavin]] || Hubert Bonisseur alias OSS 117 || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Guido Alberti]] || Faruk Melik || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Giovanni Pallavicino]] || Assassin || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Emilio Messina]] || Assassin || || 1968
|-
| ''[[Assassination, The (Atentát)|The Assassination (Atentát)]]'' || [[Rudolf Jelínek]] || Sgt. Ota Strnad || || 1969
|-
| ''[[Army of Shadows]]'' || [[Jean-Pierre Cassel]] || Sean-François Jardie || || 1969
|-
| ''[[How I Unleashed World War II]]'' || [[Joanna Jedryka]] || Teresa || || 1970
|-
| ''[[Police Python 357]]'' || [[Mathieu Carrière]] || Inspector Ménard || || 1976
|-
| ''[[Wild Geese, The|The Wild Geese]]'' || [[Roger Moore]] || Lt. Shaun Flynn || || 1979
|-
| ''[[The Dogs of War]]'' || [[Jean-François Stévenin]] || Michel || || 1981
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || [[Tom Hardy]] || Pascal Dupont || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || [[Paul Fox]] || Simon Murray || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || || French Foreign Legionnaires || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Days of Glory (2006)|Days of Glory]]'' || || Colonial Tirailleur || || 2006
|-
|}
 

== Video Games ==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Appears as '''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[World War II Online: Battleground Europe]]'' || . || . || . || 2001-2012
|-
|}

 
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

French M1935 Pistols

2013-05-05T18:41:22Z

Gun Shy: Added 1935S

'''The French SACM M1935A and MAS M1935S, also have been used by the following actors in the following movies, television series, anime, and video games:'''

=SACM M1935A=
== Specifications ==
[[Image:SACM-M1935A.jpg|thumb|right|400px|French SACM M1935A Pistol - 7.65 x 22mm Longue]]
[[Image:SACMModel1935A.jpg|right|400px|thumb|SACM Model 1935A Pistol, 7.65 MAS/.32 ACP Long]]
'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 7.65 MAS/ .32 ACP Long

'''Capacity:''' 8 Rounds

'''Length:''' 194mm

'''Barrel Length:''' 110mm

'''Weight:''' 670 grams empty / 815 grams loaded

'''Operation:''' Semiautomatic Pistol. Browning Swinging Toggle Link Action.

=MASC M1935S=
== Specifications ==
[[Image:SACM-M1935A.jpg|thumb|right|400px|French SACM M1935A Pistol - 7.65 x 22mm Longue]]
[[Image:SACMModel1935A.jpg|right|400px|thumb|SACM Model 1935A Pistol, 7.65 MAS/.32 ACP Long]]
'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 7.65 MAS/ .32 ACP Long

'''Capacity:''' 8 Rounds

'''Length:''' 188mm

'''Barrel Length:''' 106mm

'''Weight:''' 770 grams empty / 915 grams loaded

'''Operation:''' Semiautomatic Pistol. Browning Swinging Toggle Link Action.

==Film==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="230"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[John Gavin]] || Hubert Bonisseur alias OSS 117 || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Guido Alberti]] || Faruk Melik || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Giovanni Pallavicino]] || Assassin || || 1968
|-
| ''[[OSS 117 - Double Agent (Niente rose per OSS 117)]]'' || [[Emilio Messina]] || Assassin || || 1968
|-
| ''[[Assassination, The (Atentát)|The Assassination (Atentát)]]'' || [[Rudolf Jelínek]] || Sgt. Ota Strnad || || 1969
|-
| ''[[Army of Shadows]]'' || [[Jean-Pierre Cassel]] || Sean-François Jardie || || 1969
|-
| ''[[How I Unleashed World War II]]'' || [[Joanna Jedryka]] || Teresa || || 1970
|-
| ''[[Police Python 357]]'' || [[Mathieu Carrière]] || Inspector Ménard || || 1976
|-
| ''[[Wild Geese, The|The Wild Geese]]'' || [[Roger Moore]] || Lt. Shaun Flynn || || 1979
|-
| ''[[The Dogs of War]]'' || [[Jean-François Stévenin]] || Michel || || 1981
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || [[Tom Hardy]] || Pascal Dupont || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || [[Paul Fox]] || Simon Murray || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Deserter (2002)|Deserter]]'' || || French Foreign Legionnaires || || 2002
|-
| ''[[Days of Glory (2006)|Days of Glory]]'' || || Colonial Tirailleur || || 2006
|-
|}
 

== Video Games ==
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Appears as '''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[World War II Online: Battleground Europe]]'' || . || . || . || 2001-2012
|-
|}

 
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Army of Shadows

2013-05-05T18:15:58Z

Gun Shy: corrected "MAS 1935A" to "SACM 1935A"; MAS made the 1935S, a similar but different pistol ~~~

''[[Army of Shadows]]'' (''L'armee des ombres'') is a 1969 French film directed by Jean-Pierre Melville chronicling a group of French resistance fighters between October 1942 and February 1943.

'''The following firearms were used in the film ''Army of Shadows'':'''
[[Image:Arshad-dvd.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Army of Shadows'' (1969)]]
__TOC__ 

== MAS-36 ==
The Vichy French officers in the film all carry [[MAS-36]] rifles.
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MAS-36 7.5x54mm French]]
[[Image:Arshad-mas1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two Vichy French officers accompany Gerbier to his room in the first camp.]]

== MP40 ==
Many Nazi German guards throughout the film carry [[MP40]] submachine guns.
[[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Arshad-mp1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A guard stands with an MP40 as Gerbier is led into a room to wait for the Gestapo agents.]]
[[Image:Arshad-mp2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard's MP40 is silhouetted as Gerbier watches the radio operators.]]
[[Image:Arshad-mp3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard stands with his MP40.]]
[[Image:Arshad-mp4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two MP40-carrying guards open the door to Felix and Jean-François's cell to let the doctor examine Felix.]]

== M1911 ==
[[M1911 pistol series#M1911|M1911]] pistols are the main sidearms of most of the resistance fighters, including Philippe Gerbier ([[Lino Ventura]]), Félix Lepercq ([[Paul Crauchet]]), and ex-legionnaire Guillaume "''Le Bison''" Vermersch ([[Christian Barbier]]). Since they are funded and supplied by the British in the film, with Philippe and Felix once even mentioning that the British were supposed to supply them with silencers, it can be assumed that the M1911 pistols were also British surplus.
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Arshad-1911a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Félix prepares to execute an informant with his M1911.]]
[[Image:Arshad-1911c.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gerbier reaches for the M1911 inside his writing desk.]]
[[Image:Arshad-1911d.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''Le Bison'' draws his M1911 from inside his jacket.]]
[[Image:Arshad-1911e.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''Le Bison'' fires his M1911 at an informant on the street.]]

== Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless ==
Gerbier's team of Canadian, Belgian, and British commandos assisting with one of heir missions carries small-caliber pistols resembling [[Colt Model 1903/1908|Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless]] pistols.
[[Image:Colt_Model_1903.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless Pistol - .32 ACP]]
[[Image:Arshad-colt03a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gerbier's commandos aim their pistols through the ceiling.]]

== SACM mle. 1935A ==
Jean-François Jardie ([[Jean-Pierre Cassel]]), an ex-pilot resistance fighter, carries a French [[French M1935 Pistols|SACM mle. 1935A]] pistol as his sidearm.
[[Image:SACM-M1935A.jpg|thumb|none|400px|French SACM M1935A Pistol - 7.65 x 22mm Longue]]
[[Image:Arshad-m35a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jean-François draws his pistol when he hears a sound during a nighttime mission.]]

== Karabiner 98k ==
Several German sentries and guards carry [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Arshad-k98a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rifle-carrying SS guards lead the prisoners, including Gerbier, through the prison.]]

== MG34 ==
An [[MG34]] is set up in the execution chamber of the German prison.
[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down.]]
[[Image:Arshad-mg1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Several SS soldiers man the MG34.]]

== Walther PPK ==
An SS officer fires his [[Walther PPK]] at Gerbier inside the execution chamber.
[[Image:PPKNazi1.jpg‎|thumb|350px|none|Early Waffenamt marked Walther PPK. Note the differences: orange bakelite grips, lanyard ring, smaller rear sight, grooved top and irregular front - 7.65x17mm Auto (.32 ACP)]]
[[Image:Arshad-ppk1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The officer fires his PPK at Gerbier's legs.]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:War]]
[[Category:Drama]]
[[Category:French Produced/Filmed]]
[[Category:Jean-Pierre Melville]]

Talk:Deserter (2002)

2013-05-05T17:55:13Z

Gun Shy: /* SIG P210 */ new section

=Armor=
==M60 tank==
During their attack on the airport of Algiers, Legionnaires use a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M60_Patton M60 Patton tank] to crush a roadblock that has been set up by French troops who are trying to ensure a peaceful transition to independence.
[[Image:Deserter2002-m60tank-02.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Sherman tank==
Several versions of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Sherman?uselang=nl Sherman tank] can be seen on a television newscast about the unrest in Algeria following the upcoming independence from France.
[[Image:Deserter2002-Sherman-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Are the screenshots of the Patton and Sherman tanks on the main page really necessary? I see no problem with mentioning what they are in passing if one appears in the background of a screenshot used to identify a firearm, but having a subsection with screenshots of the tanks just to say, "This is an M60 Patton battle tank", is out of IMFDB's scope, isn't it? That's more IMCDB's department and with the seemingly more widespread acceptance of having knives, bows, and whatnot on pages, it's starting to seem like IMFDB is taking a turn toward becoming the Internet Movie ''Props'' Database. :\ [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:44, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

:::Don't recall how long you've been a member [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] but I think it's been at least back to 2009. During that time, Gun platforms are allowed on movie pages as long as the primary and secondary armament are identified. Those technically count as a 'gun' appearance. Gun platforms have been around nearly as long as IMFDB has existed. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:44, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

:Not sure we have any more knives or bows than we used to (explosive bows are typically allowed, but that's about it). MPM has said it's ok for a page to have a "gun platforms" section at the bottom to identify military vehicles which carry weapons, though this isn't very common; see ''[[Red Dawn]]'' for an example of that. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 21:55, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

::Thanks for the comments, my apologies to mention the tanks on the gunpage. Was just trying to be complete, will take care next time, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 14:27, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

=Movie poster=

Does anybody know why sometimes movie covers are so full of anachronisms? Below cover seems to be one of the official ones, but it shows too many mistakes to be credible (for an IMFDB contributor at least). For this movie taking place in the early 1960's, it shows e.g. what looks like an [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG-Sauer P228| SIG-Sauer P228]] (introduced 1988...), a few Russian Hind attack helicopters (introduced 1969...) and some other military items that seem to have been taken randomly from photostock archives. Maybe they ran out of budget? Still a pretty good movie though, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 14:38, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

[[Image:Deserter2002-alternativeposter.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]

It mentions some of Tom Hardy's more recent roles, so maybe it qas a quick and lazy attempt to get the fact Mr. Hardy was in the movie out there. And is that a WWII-era Panzer III in the bottom left? [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 21:06, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

Yes, there's a Panzer III/IV on the bottom left and what looks like T-72 on the right. Weird.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 22:34, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

== SIG P210 ==

It should be noted that the SIG P210s shown here are stand-ins for actual French military sidearms of the period, most especially the French model 1935A, which was the design basis for the P210. Additionally, the 1935S (a separate pistol from the model 1935A, with a different design from a different manufacturer, but also in 7.65 long) and 9mm 1950 (derived from the 1935S) would have been in use, as were assorted WWII sidearms, Allied and Axis, until replaced by the model 1950 as it became available (a process that extended into the 1960s). [[User:Gun Shy|Gun Shy]] ([[User talk:Gun Shy|talk]])

Road to Perdition

2013-05-05T16:40:23Z

Gun Shy: under Savage 1907, changed "loads a chamber into his Savage 1907" to "chambers a round into his Savage 1907"

[[Image:Road to perdition.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Road to Perdition'' (2002)]]
{{spoiler|Several spoilers appear in the descriptions and photos from the film}}
__TOC__ 
{{Film Title}}
=Handguns=

==M1911A1==
The [[M1911A1]] is the most commonly seen gun in the movie, used primarily by mob soldier Michael Sullivan ([[Tom Hanks]]). Connor Rooney ([[Daniel Craig]]) also uses an M1911A1. A major error occurs during the hotel fight with Maguire (Jude Law), just before Sullivan fires the 1911's slide is clearly locked back, indicating that the weapon is out of ammunition. (actually, this appears to be a sound-editing error. Slow motion shows Sullivan falling backwards and pulling the trigger, firing the last round and locking back the slide, however the sound of the shot doesn't come until a few moments later, making it appear that he fired the round with the slide locked back. What is interesting is that Sullivan only fires four shots before his slide locks back which means he didn't top off his magazine before the encounter.)

[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Colt M1911A1- .45 ACP. Provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:Rtp-1911a.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Sullivan takes off his M1911A1 when he returns home from "work".]]
[[Image:Rtp-1911b.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Connor's M1911A1 when he shoots Annie and Peter.]]
[[Image:Rtp-m1911a.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Sullivan holds his M1911A1 on a banker.]]
[[Image:Rtp-1911c.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Sullivan puts his M1911A1 in the face of another banker.]]
[[Image:Rtp-m1911b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sullivan checks his M1911A1 before finding Rance in the hotel.]]

==M1911 "Non Gun"==
In some shots where an actor is required to fire the 1911 close to another actor, a [["Non Guns"#Colt 1911|1911 "Non Gun"]] is substituted. Non Guns are electronically-operated and discharge small explosive squibs that make a flash and produce smoke, but they do not eject shell casings or have any moving parts besides the trigger. Sullivan can be seen using a non-gun when he kills Connor Rooney. This is obvious, as the gun fires three times, but no casings are seen leaving the weapon (they are heard hitting the ground), the slide never cycles, and the gun is seen firing with the hammer down, even though it is a single action pistol.
[[Image:1911non-gun.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt 1911 Non Gun]]
[[Image:Rtp-1911d.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Sullivan shoots Connor with a 1911 "non-gun". The shape of it, as well as the fact that Sullivan fires it three times without it cycling and with only a flash emitting with each shot, gives it away as a "non-gun". The uncocked hammer is also another giveaway.]]

== Savage 1907 ==
Hitman Harlen Maguire ([[Jude Law]]) uses a .32 ACP [[Savage 1907]] after the hotel shootout. Michael Sullivan, Jr. ([[Tyler Hoechlin]]) picks up this gun at the end of the movie but does not fire it.
[[Image:Savage1907.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Savage 1907 - .32 ACP.]]
[[Image:Rtp-sav1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Maguire chambers a round into his Savage 1907 under the table at the diner.]]
[[Image:Rtp-savage1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Maguire shoots at Sullivan's car outside the diner.]]
[[Image:Rtp-savage2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Maguire rests his shooting arm on the window after the hotel shootout.]]
[[Image:Rtp-savage3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Maguire puts his Savage on the window sill to tend to his bleeding eye.]]
[[Image:Rtp-savage4.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Michael Jr. holds Maguire at bay with his own pistol.]]

==Smith & Wesson "Triple Lock"==
Calvino (Doug Spinuzza) puts a nickel-plated [[Smith & Wesson 44 Hand Ejector Series#44 Smith & Wesson 1ST Model "Triple Lock" (1907-1915)|Smith & Wesson "Triple Lock"]] revolver under a magazine when his bodyguard (Kevin Chamberlin) tells him that Sullivan is there. Sullivan ([[Tom Hanks]]) then grabs it and uses it to shoot both Calvino and the bodyguard, presumably leaving it on the desk when he leaves.
[[Image:HEnickleTriple.jpg|none|thumb|350px| S&W 44 Hand Ejector "Triple Lock". Nickel finish. Pearl grips.]]
[[Image:Rtp-cns1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Calvino's Hand Ejector sits under a magazine.]]
[[Image:Rtp-cns2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Sullivan grabs the Hand Ejector first and shoots both Calvino and the bodyguard.]]
[[Image:Rtp-swmk1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sullivan puts down Calvino's Hand Ejector before reading the note he delivered to him.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 10==
When Sullivan is mowing down John Rooney ([[Paul Newman]]) and his thugs outside O'Neill's bar, most of Rooney's men carry 1911s but one fires back at Sullivan with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]].
[[Image:S&W Model M&P.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Smith & Wesson Model M&P Revolver - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Rtp-sw10a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of Rooney's men fires at Sullivan with his S&W.]]

==Colt Detective Special==
Michael Sullivan ([[Tom Hanks]]) gives a .38 [[Colt Detective Special]] to his son when he goes in to kill Kelly, telling Michael Jr. that he's "got six shots" if he needs them.
[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Rtp-cds1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Michael Jr. looks at the gun his father handed him.]]

==unidentified revolver==
Calvino's bodyguard ([[Kevin Chamberlin]]) draws a small frame revolver inside Calvino's office but is killed by Sullivan before he has a chance to fire it.
[[Image:Rtp-rev1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Calvino's bodyguard drops his revolver as he is shot.]]

=Submachine Gun=

==M1921 Thompson==
Michael Sullivan uses the .45 ACP [[Thompson|Thompson M1921]] submachine gun throughout the movie.
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg|450px|thumb|none|M1921 Thompson - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Rtp-thom1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sullivan, Thompson in hand, finds his son hiding by a gate.]]
[[Image:Rtp-tommy1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Sullivan opens his Thompson's case.]]
[[Image:Rtp-tommy2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Sullivan constructs his Thompson.]]
[[Image:Tn2_road_to_perdition_3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Sullivan prepares to load his Thompson.]]

=Rifle=
==Winchester Model 1892 ==
Finn McGovern's two bodyguards each carry a [[Winchester Model 1892]].
[[Image:Winchester1892.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester 1892 -.32WCF/.38-40/.44-40/.25-20.]]
[[Image:Rtp-win92a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Finn's bodyguards with their Winchesters.]]

=Shotgun=
== Winchester Model 1897 ==
Harlan Maguire ([[Jude Law]]) carries a [[Winchester Model 1897]] shotgun under his jacket when he goes to kill Michael in the hotel. He ends up killing Rance, the mob accountant, but missing Michael.
[[Image:WinchesterM1897.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester Model 1897 - 12 gauge riot gun]]
[[Image:Rtp-win97b.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Maguire fires his shotgun at Sullivan.]]
[[Image:Rtp-win97c.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Maguire is wounded while holding his shotgun.]]

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Smith & Wesson Model 10

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[[Image:HA-537.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Smith & Wesson Model of 1899 M&P (1899-1902) - .38 Special]]
[[Image:S&W Model M&P.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Smith & Wesson Model M&P Revolver with 5" Barrel - .38 Special]]
[[Image:S&WModel10Long.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Smith & Wesson Model M&P Revolver with long barrel and Gold Medallion grips - .38 Special]]
[[Image:S&W M&PSHORT.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Smith & Wesson Model M&P Revolver - .38 Special]]
[[Image:S&W-Model-10.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Smith & Wesson Model 10 Revolver - .38 Special]]
[[Image:S&WModel10HB.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB (heavy barrel) revolver (Post 1950s Model) - .38 Special. Later incarnations of the Model 10 had a non-tapered heavy barrel, which leads it to be commonly mistaken for a .357 revolver.]]
[[Image:SW103inch.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Smith & Wesson Model 10 with three inch barrel]]
[[Image:S&WModel10SnubEarly.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Smith & Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special. Early Model]]
[[Image:S&WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Smith & Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special. Same frame, but with smaller grips and 2 inch barrel.]]
The Smith & Wesson Model 10 is a classic police revolver used by police and military on most continents from the early
1900's until this day. It uses the K-frame size, like the [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] and [[Smith & Wesson Model 19|Model 19]]. Earlier versions, including the forerunner model of 1899 up until 1960, had thin barrels and a rounded front sight. Early versions were chambered in .38 Long Colt/.38 Special and occasionally .32-20 WCF. WWII models were also chambered in .38 Smith & Wesson for the British Commonwealth. From 1960 until today it was fitted with a heavier barrel and ramped front sight. Barrels came in 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6-inch versions. There was also a special run of the Model 10 with a 2.5" Heavy Barrel made for the Michigan State Police in the 1970's. Formerly known as the "Military and Police" (M&P), the Smith & Wesson Model 10 is the most successful police revolver in history and can be seen in countless movies.

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==Specifications==
(1899-Present)

* '''Type:''' Revolver

* '''Caliber(s):''' .22 Long Rifle, .38 Long Colt, .38 Special

* '''Capacity:''' 6-round cylinder

* '''Weight:''' 1.9 lbs (0.88 kg)

* '''Length:''' 11.1 in (28.2 cm)

* '''Barrel Lengths:''' 2 in (5.1 cm), 3 in (7.6 cm), 5 in (12.7 cm), 6.5 in (16.5 cm)

* '''Fire Modes:''' SA/DA

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'''The Smith & Wesson Model 10 revolver can be seen in the following films and television series used by the following actors:'''
===Film===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
|''[[King Kong (1933)|King Kong]]''||[[Bruce Cabot]]||Jack Driscoll|| ||1933
|-
|''[[Each Dawn I Die]]'' ||[[George Raft]]||Stacy|| ||1939
|-
|''[[Torture Ship]]'' ||[[Wheeler Oakman]]||John Ritter|| ||1939
|-
|''[[Torture Ship]]''||[[Skelton Knaggs]]||Jesse Bixel|| ||1939
|-
|''[[Dillinger (1945)|Dillinger]]''||[[Marc Lawrence]]||Doc Madison|| ||1945
|-
|''[[Trapped]]''||[[Lloyd Bridges]]||Tris Stewart|| ||1949
|-
|''[[Trapped]]''||[[John Hoyt]]||Agent John Downey|| ||1949
|-
|''[[Trapped]]''||[[James Todd]]||Jack Sylvester|| ||1949
|-
|''[[The Enforcer (1951)|The Enforcer]]''||[[Ted de Corsia]]||Joseph Rico|| ||1951
|-
|''[[Hong Kong (1952)|Hong Kong]]'' || [[Ronald Reagan]] || Jeff Williams || || 1952
|-
|''[[Hong Kong (1952)|Hong Kong]]'' || [[Marvin Miller]] || Tao Liang || || 1952
|-
|''[[Hong Kong (1952)|Hong Kong]]'' || || henchmen || || 1952
|-
|''[[To Catch a Thief]]''|| ||French police|| ||1955
|-
|''[[A Bullet For Joey]]'' || ||A Mobster|| ||1955
|-
|''[[The Killer is Loose]]''||[[Joseph Cotten]]||Det. Sam Wagner|| ||1956
|-
|''[[Thunder Road]]''|| ||A henchmen|| ||1958
|-
|''[[Vertigo]]''||[[Fred Graham]]||A Policeman|| ||1958
|-
|''[[Pretty Boy Floyd]]''|| || ||Snub Nose||1960
|-
|''[[Dr. No]]''||[[John Kitzmiller]]||Quarrel|| ||1962
|-
|''[[55 Days at Peking]]''||[[Charlton Heston]]||Maj. Matt Lewis|| ||1963
|-
|''[[55 Days at Peking]]''||[[Walter Gotell]]||Capt. Hoffman|| ||1963
|-
|''[[55 Days at Peking]]''||[[Jerome Thor]]||Capt. Andy Marshall|| ||1963
|-
|''[[55 Days at Peking]]''||[[Philippe Leroy]]||Julliard|| ||1963
|-
|''[[Killers, The (1964)|The Killers]]''||[[Ronald Reagan]]||Jack Browning||Snubnose, suppressed||1964
|-
|''[[Killers, The (1964)|The Killers]]''||[[Clu Gulager]]||Lee||Snubnose||1964
|-
|''[[Killers, The (1964)|The Killers]]''||[[John Cassavetes]]||Johnny North||||1964
|-
|''[[Marnie]]''||[['Tippi' Hedren]]||Marnie Edgar|| ||1964
|-
|''[[Goldfinger]]''||[[Gert Fröbe]]||Auric Goldfinger||gold-plated with ivory grips||1964
|-
|''[[008: Operation Exterminate]]''||||Egyptian assassin||||1965
|-
|''[[The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming]]''||[[Brian Keith]]||Police Chief Link Mattocks|| ||1966
|-
|''[[A Bullet for the General]]''||[[Lou Castel]]||Bill 'Niño' Tate|| ||1966
|-
|''[[A Bullet for the General]]''|| ||Mexican officers|| ||1966
|-
|''[[Deadlier Than the Male]]''|| ||Man on the beach|| Long barrel ||1966
|-
|''[[The Battle of Algiers]]''||[[Brahim Hagiag]]||Ali La Pointe|| ||1966
|-
|''[[Cobra,_The|The Cobra]]''||[[Pietro Martellanza]]||Mike Rand|| ||1967
|-
|''[[To Commit a Murder]]''||[[Louis Jourdan]] ||Charles Beaulieu||Snub nose ||1967
|-
|''[[In Cold Blood]]''|| ||Deputy sheriff|| ||1967
|-
|''[[Bonnie and Clyde]]''||[[Warren Beatty]]||Clyde Barrow|| ||1967
|-
|''[[Bonnie and Clyde]]''||[[Faye Dunaway]]||Bonnie Parker|| ||1967
|-
|''[[Point Blank (1967)|Point Blank]]''||[[Michael Strong]]|| John Stegman || snub nose ||1967
|-
|''[[Take the Money and Run]]''|| ||Police Officers || ||1969
|-
|''[[Borsalino]]''||[[Alain Delon]]||Roch Siffredi|| ||1970
|-
|''[[Borsalino]]''||[[Pierre Koulak]]||Spada|| ||1970
|-
|''[[Borsalino]]''|| ||Different criminals|| ||1970
|-
|''[[The French Connection]]'' ||[[Roy Scheider]]||Det. Buddy 'Cloudy' Russo|| ||1971
|-
|''[[The Valachi Papers]]''|| ||Hit Team|| ||1972
|-
|''[[Hickey & Boggs]]''||[[Bill Hickman]]||Monte|| ||1972
|-
| ''[[Super Fly]]'' || Sig Shore || Deputy Commissioner Reardon || stag grips || 1972
|-
|''[[Hot Rock, The|The Hot Rock]]'' || || N.Y.P.D. officers|| ||1972
|-
|''[[Across 110th Street]]''||[[Yaphet Kotto]]||N.Y.P.D. Lt. Pope|| ||1972
|-
|''[[Across 110th Street]]''||[[Anthony Quinn]]||Cpt. Mattelli|| ||1972
|-
|''[[The Mechanic]]''|| ||A Bodyguard|| ||1972
|-
|''[[The Getaway (1972)|The Getaway]]''||[[Bo Hopkins]]||Frank Jackson|| ||1972
|-
|''[[The Godfather]]''||[[Richard Bright]]||Al Neri|| ||1972
|-
|''[[The Godfather]]''||[[Al Pacino]]||Michael Corleone||Snub Nose||1972
|-
|''[[With Clean Hands (Cu mainile curate)]]'' || [[Sergiu Nicolaescu]] || Tudor Miclovan || || 1972
|-
|''[[With Clean Hands (Cu mainile curate)]]'' || || Romanian police || || 1972
|-
|''[[Serpico]]''|| ||N.Y.P.D. Officers|| ||1973
|-
|''[[Dillinger (1973)|Dillinger]]''||[[Geoffrey Lewis]]||Harry Pierpont|| ||1973
|-
|''[[Mean Streets]]''|| || || ||1973
|-
|''[[The Friends of Eddie Coyle]]''|| ||Gangsters & Federal Agents|| ||1973
|-
|''[[Stone Killer, The|The Stone Killer]]''||[[Charles Bronson]]||Lou Torrey||4-inch barrel||1973
|-
| ''[[The Last Cartridge (Ultimul cartus)]]'' || [[Ilarion Ciobanu]] || Mihai Roman || || 1973
|-
| ''[[The Last Cartridge (Ultimul cartus)]]'' || [[Jean Constantin]] || Floacă || || 1973
|-
| ''[[The Last Cartridge (Ultimul cartus)]]'' || || Criminals || || 1973
|-
|''[[Melvin Purvis G-MAN]]'' || [[Matt Clark]] || Charlie Parlmetter || || 1974
|-
|''[[Foxy Brown]]''|| ||Police officers|| ||1974
|-
|''[[McQ]]''||[[John Wayne]]||Lon McQ|| ||1974
|-
|''[[The Odessa File]]''||[[Jon Voight]]||Peter Miller|| ||1974
|-
|''[[Big Bad Mama]]''||[[Angie Dickinson]]||Wilma McClatchie|| ||1974
|-
|''[[Mr. Majestyk]]''|| ||Police & Mobsters|| ||1974
|-
|''[[The Taking of Pelham One Two Three]]''||[[Walter Matthau]]||Lieutenant Zachary Garber|| ||1974
|-
|''[[Borsalino and Co.]]''||[[Alain Delon]]||Roch Siffredi|| ||1974
|-
|''[[Borsalino and Co.]]''||[[Adolfo Lastretti]]||Luciano|| ||1974
|-
|''[[Borsalino and Co.]]''||[[Lionel Vitrant]]||Fernand|| ||1974
|-
|''[[Borsalino and Co.]]''|| ||Siffredi and Volpone henchmen|| ||1974
|-
|''[[A Police Commissioner Accuses (Un comisar acuza)]]'' || [[Sergiu Nicolaescu]] || Tudor Moldovan || || 1974
|-
|''[[A Police Commissioner Accuses (Un comisar acuza)]]'' || || Iron Guard legionnaires || || 1974
|-
|''[[Killer Elite, The (1975)|The Killer Elite]]''||[[James Caan]]||Mike Locken|| ||1975
|-
|''[[The Eiger Sanction]]''|| ||A thug|| ||1975
|-
|''[[The Yakuza]]''||[[Robert Mitchum]]||Harry Kilmer||Snub nose||1975
|-
|''[[The Yakuza]]''||[[Richard Jordan]]||Dusty||Snub nose||1975
|-
|''[[The Wind and the Lion]]''||[[Geoffrey Lewis]]||Ambassador Gummere|| ||1975
|-
|''[[Cop Story (Flic Story)]]''||[[André Pousse]]||Jean-Baptiste Buisson|| ||1975
|-
|''[[Cop Story (Flic Story)]]''||[[Renato Salvatori]]||Mario le Rital|| ||1975
|-
|''[[The Wilby Conspiracy]]''||[[Rijk de Gooyer]] ||Van Heerden|| Snub Nose ||1975
|-
|''[[All the President's Men]]''|| ||Police Detective|| ||1976
|-
| ''[[Vigilante Force]]'' || [[Kris Kristofferson]] || Aaron Arnold || With custom grips || 1976
|-
| ''[[Vigilante Force]]'' || [[Jan-Michael Vincent]] || Ben Arnold || With custom grips || 1976
|-
| ''[[Vigilante Force]]'' || || Police officers || || 1976
|-
|''[[Gauntlet, The|The Gauntlet]]''|| ||Phoenix Police officers|| ||1977
|-
|''[[Rolling Thunder]]''||[[Lawrason Driscoll]]||Cliff|| ||1977
|-
|''[[The Gauntlet]]''|| ||Police Officers|| ||1977
|-
|''[[Gang (Le Gang), The|The Gang (Le Gang)]]''||[[Adalberto Maria Merli]]||Manu|| ||1977
|-
|''[[Deer Hunter, The|The Deer Hunter]]''||[[John Cazale]]||Stan||Snub nose & nickle plate||1978
|-
|''[[Deer Hunter, The|The Deer Hunter]]''||[[Robert De Niro]]||Michael||||1978
|-
|''[[Deer Hunter, The|The Deer Hunter]]''||[[Christopher Walken]]||Nick||||1978
|-
|''[[The Deer Hunter]]''||[[John Savage]]||Stevie||||1978
|-
|''[[Game_of_Death_(1978)|Game of Death]]'' ||[[Coleen Camp]]||Ann Morris|| ||1978
|-
|''[[F.I.S.T.]]''|| ||Mob enforcers|| ||1978
|-
|''[[Revenge (Revansa)]]'' || [[Sergiu Nicolaescu]] || Tudor Moldovan || || 1978
|-
| ''[[Cabbages and Kings]]'' || [[Armen Dzhigarkhanyan]] || Billy Keogh || || 1978
|-
| ''[[Money Movers]]''||[[Bryan Brown]]||Brian Jackson||.||1979
|-
|''[[The Warriors]]''|| ||Gang Member|| ||1979
|-
|''[[Apocalypse Now]]''||[[Albert Hall]]||Chief Phillips|| ||1979
|-
|''[[Maniac]]''||[[Randy Jurgensen]]||A police detective|| ||1980
|-
|''[[Brubaker]]'' ||[[Robert Redford]]||Henry Brubaker|| ||1980
|-
|''[[Brubaker]]'' ||[[Lee Richardson]]||Warden Renfro || ||1980
|-
|''[[The Long Good Friday]]''|| [[Brian Hall]] || Alan || ||1980
|-
|''[[Wolfen]]''||[[Diane Venora]]||N.Y.P.D. Detective Rebecca Neff|| ||1981
|-
|''[[Fort Apache the Bronx|Fort Apache,the Bronx]]''||[[Paul Newman]]|| N.Y.P.D. Patrolman Murphy|| ||1981
|-
|''[[The Duel (Duelul)]]'' || [[Sergiu Nicolaescu]] || Tudor Moldovan || || 1981
|-
|''[[Enter the Ninja]]'' || [[Christopher George]] || Charles Venarius || || 1981
|-
|''[[Enter the Ninja]]'' || || Venarius' henchmen || || 1981
|-
|''[[Fighting Back]]'' ||[[Tom Skerritt]]||John D’Angelo|| ||1982
|-
|''[[Death Wish 2]]''||[[Stuart K. Robinson]]||Jiver||Snub Nose||1982
|-
|''[[The Final Option]]''||[[Ingrid Pitt]]||Helga||Snub Nose||1982
|-
|''[[Dark Sun (Temné slunce)]]''|| ||Airport detective|| ||1982
|-
| ''[[Silent Rage]] || [[Chuck Norris]] || Sheriff Dan Stevens || || 1982
|-
| ''[[Silent Rage]] || [[Stephen Furst]] || Charlie || || 1982
|-
| ''[[Silent Rage]] || || Sheriff's deputies || || 1982
|-
| ''[[The Shock (Le Choc)]]'' || [[Alain Delon]] || Christian Morelli || || 1982
|-
| ''[[The Shock (Le Choc)]]'' || [[Alain Delon]] || Christian Morelli || Snub nose || 1982
|-
| ''[[The Shock (Le Choc)]]'' || [[Dany Kogan]] || Rosana || Snub nose || 1982
|-
|''[[WarGames]]''||[[John Spencer]]||Jerry|| ||1983
|-
|''[[WarGames]]''||[[Michael Madsen]]||Steve|| ||1983
|-
|''[[Under Fire]]''||[[Nick Nolte]]||Price||.||1983
|-
|''[[Police Academy]]''|| .||Police Officers|| ||1984
|-
|''[[Purple Rain]]''|| [[Clarence Williams III]] || Father || ||1984
|-
|''[[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]]''|| || || ||1984
|-
|''[[Once Upon A Time In America]]''||[[James Hayden]]||Patrick "Patsy" Goldberg|| ||1984
|-
|''[[Once Upon A Time In America]]'' ||[[Frank Gio]]||Beefy|| ||1984
|-
|''[[Exterminator 2]]''||[[Robert Ginty]]||John Eastland/The Exterminator|| ||1984
|-
|''[[Firestarter]]'' || || DSI Agents || || 1984
|-
|''[[Witness]]'' ||[[Harrison Ford]]||Det. Capt. John Book||Snub Nose||1985
|-
| ''[[Hold-Up]]'' || || Montreal police || || 1985
|-
|''[[Popeye Doyle]]''|| [[Gary Tacon]] ||Deli Bandit #1 || ||1986
|-
|''[[Legacy of Rage]]''|| [[Michael Wong]] || Michael || HB, 3-in barrel ||1986
|-
| ''[[Murphy's Law]]'' || [[Charles Bronson]] || Jack Murphy || || 1986
|-
| ''[[Murphy's Law]]'' || [[Kathleen Wilhoite]] || Arabella McGee || || 1986
|-
| ''[[Murphy's Law]]'' || || Police officers and security guards || || 1986
|-
|''[[The Untouchables (1987)|The Untouchables]]''||[[Andy Garcia]]||Stone|| ||1987
|-
|''[[The Untouchables (1987)|The Untouchables]]''||[[Sean Connery]]||Malone|| ||1987
|-
|''[[The Sicilian]]'' || [[Danilo Mattei]] || Italian Army lieutenant || Long barrel || 1987
|-
|''[[The Sicilian]]'' || [[Derrick Branche]] || Terranova || || 1987
|-
|''[[In the Line of Duty: The FBI Murders]]''|| ||FBI Agents|| ||1988
|-
|''[[Bulletproof (1988)|Bulletproof]]''|| [[Thalmus Rasulala]] || Billy Dunbar || 3-in, heavy barrel ||1988
|-
|''[[Mississippi Burning]]''||[[Gene Hackman]]||FBI Special Agent Rupert Anderson||heavy barrel model||1988
|-
|''[[True Believer]]''|| || || ||1989
|-
|''[[Blue Steel (1989)|Blue Steel]]''||[[Jamie Lee Curtis]]||Officer Megan Turner|| ||1989
|-
|''[[Mighty Quinn, The|The Mighty Quinn]]''||[[Denzel Washington]]||Xavier Quinn|| ||1989
|-
|''[[Night of the Living Dead (1990)|Night of the Living Dead]]''||[[Tony Todd]]||Ben|| ||1990
|-
|''[[Night of the Living Dead (1990)|Night of the Living Dead]]''||[[Patricia Tallman]]||Barbara|| ||1990
|-
|''[[Miller's Crossing]]''||[[Sam Raimi]]||A Gangster|| ||1990
|-
|''[[Desperate Hours]]''||[[David Morse]]||Albert|| ||1990
|-
|''[[Silence of the Lambs]]''|| ||Memphis police officers|| ||1991
|-
|''[[Mobsters]]'' ||[[Richard Grieco]]||Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel|| ||1991
|-
|''[[Hudson Hawk]]''||[[Andie MacDowell]]||Anna Baragli|| ||1991
|-
|''[[Bodyguard, The|The Bodyguard]]''||[[Ralph Waite]]||Herb Farmer|| ||1992
|-
|''[[Thunderheart]]''|| || Reservation Police Officer || ||1992
|-
|''[[Hard Boiled]]''|| ||HKPD Officers|| ||1992
|-
|''[[Army of One]]''||[[Dolph Lundgren]]||Wellman Santee||.||1993
|-
|''[[Roadracers]]''||[[Jason Wiles]]||Teddy Leather|| ||1994
|-
|''[[The Shawshank Redemption]]'' ||[[Bob Gunton]]||Warden Norton||(Snub Nose||1994
|-
|''[[The Mask]]''||[[Jim Carrey]]||Stanley Ipkiss|| ||1994
|-
|''[[Nick of Time]]''||[[Johnny Depp]]||Gene Watson|| ||1995
|-
|''[[Village of the Damned (1995)|Village of the Damned]]''||[[Meredith Salenger]]||Melanie Roberts|| ||1995
|-
|''[[Twelve Monkeys]]''|| ||Police officers|| ||1995
|-
|''[[Usual Suspects, The|The Usual Suspects]]''||[[Scott B Morgan]]||"Keyser Soze"|| ||1995
|-
|''[[Dead Presidents]]''||[[Freddy Rodriguez|Freddy Rodríguez]]||Joe || || 1995
|-
|''[[The Hunted (1995)|The Hunted]]''|| || Japanese police officers || || 1995
|-
|''[[Ransom]]''|| ||NYPD patrolman||.||1996
|-
|''[[Lone Star]]''||[[Gabriel Casseus]]||Otis||. ||1996
|-
|''[[Mulholland Falls]]''||[[Nick Nolte]]||Det. Lt. Max Hoover|| .||1996
|-
|''[[The Postman]]''||[[Will Patton]]||General Bethlehem||. ||1997
|-
|''[[The Postman]]''||[[Larenz Tate]]||Postmaster Ford Lincoln Mercury||. ||1997
|-
|''[[Dance with the Devil]]'' || [[James Gandolfini]] || 'Woody' Dumas || Mod. 10HB || 1997
|-
|''[[One Tough Cop]]''||[[Luis Guzmán]]||Popi||.||1998
|-
|''[[Corruptor, The|The Corruptor]]''||. ||. ||. ||1999
|-
|''[[8 Mile]]''||[[Evan Jones]]||Cheddar Bob||. ||2002
|-
|''[[Dark Blue (2002)|Dark Blue]]''||[[Kurt Russell]]||L.A.P.D. Det. Perry||. ||2002
|-
|''[[Die Another Day]]''||[[Pierce Brosnan]]||James Bond||. ||2002
|-
|''[[Die Another Day]]''||[[Rick Yune]]||Zao||. ||2002
|-
|''[[Sweat]]''||[[Sagamore Stevenin]]||Simon||. ||2002
|-
|''[[Belly of the Beast]]''|| || Bangkok police || Model 10HB and Model M&P || 2003
|-
|''[[Lost City, The|The Lost City]]''||[[Nestor Carbonell]]||Luis Fellove||. ||2005
|-
|''[[Lost City, The|The Lost City]]''|| [[Danny Pino]] ||Alberto Mora||. ||2005
|-
|''[[Lost City, The|The Lost City]]''|| [[Richard Marquez]] ||Rega||. ||2005
|-
|''[[Divergence]]''|| ||Hong Kong Police||Snub Nose ||2005
|-
|''[[Rapid Fire (2006)|Rapid Fire]]''||[[Lauro Chartrand]]||Deputy Lauro||Heavy Barrel||2006
|-
|''[[Exiled]]''||[[Nick Cheung Ka Fai]]||Wo||. ||2006
|-
|''[[Visitation, The|The Visitation]]''||[[Richard Tyson]]||Sheriff Brett Henchle||. ||2006
|-
| ''[[Blood Brothers (2007)|Blood Brothers]]'' || [[Daniel Wu]] || Ah Feng || || 2007
|-
| ''[[Blood Brothers (2007)|Blood Brothers]]'' || [[Ye Liu]] || Da Gang || || 2007
|-
| ''[[Blood Brothers (2007)|Blood Brothers]]'' || [[Tony Yang]] || Xiao Hu || || 2007
|-
| ''[[Blood Brothers (2007)|Blood Brothers]]'' || [[Chen Chang]] || Mark || || 2007
|-
| ''[[Blood Brothers (2007)|Blood Brothers]]'' || || gangsters || || 2007
|-
| ''[[Invisible Target]]'' || || Uniformed Hong Kong Police and Ronin Gang members || mod.10 HB || 2007
|-
|''[[Max Payne (2008)|Max Payne]]''||[[Ludacris]]||Jim Bravura|| ||2008
|-
|''[[Largo Winch (2008)|Largo Winch]]''|| [[Tomer Sisley]] || Largo Winch || ||2008
|-
|''[[Largo Winch (2008)|Largo Winch]]''|| || Brazilian Police || ||2008
|-
|''[[The Road]]''||[[Viggo Mortensen]]|| The Man || || 2009
|-
|''[[The Sniper]]''||[[Edison Chen]]||OJ|| ||2009
|-
|''[[The Sniper]]''||[[Richie Ren]]||Fang Keming|| ||2009
|-
|''[[Black Dynamite]]''||[[Kevin Chapman]]|| O'Leary || snub-nosed ||2009
|-
|''[[Black Dynamite]]''||[[Byron Minns]]|| Bullhorn || snub-nosed ||2009
|-
|''[[Black Dynamite]]''||[[Phil Morris]]|| Saheed || snub-nosed ||2009
|-
|''[[The Keeper]]''||[[Johnnie Hector]]||Manuelo|| ||2009
|-
|''[[Shutter Island]]''||[[Leonardo DiCaprio]]||U.S. Marshal Teddy Daniels|| ||2010
|-
|''[[Brooklyn's Finest]]'' ||[[Richard Gere]]||Eddie|| ||2010
|-
|''[[Animal Kingdom]]'' ||[[Josh Helman]]||Constable Peter Simmons|| ||2010
|-
|''[[Animal Kingdom]]'' ||[[Tim Phillipps]]||Constable Daniel Hordon|| ||2010
|-
|''[[Animal Kingdom]]'' ||[[Anthony Hayes]] ||Detective Justin Norris || ||2010
|-
|''[[Animal Kingdom]]'' ||[[Justin Rosniak]] ||Detective Randall Roach || ||2010
|-
|''[[Nokas]]''|| ||''Politi'' officers|| ||2010
|-
|''[[13]]''||[[Mickey Rourke]]||Jefferson|| ||2010
|-
| ''[[Fire of Conscience]]''||||HKPF officers||.||2010
|-
|''[[Let the Bullets Fly]]''|| [[John Do]] || Four || M&P || 2010
|-
|''[[Let the Bullets Fly]]''|| [[Yun Zhou]] || Flora || M&P || 2010
|-
|''[[Outside the Law (2010)|Outside the Law]]'' || [[Roschdy Zem]] || Messaoud || three-inch barrel || 2010
|-
|''[[Outside the Law (2010)|Outside the Law]]'' || || French Police Inspector || three-inch barrel || 2010
|-
| ''[[The Artist]]'' || [[Jean Dujardin]] || George Valentin || snub || 2011
|-
| ''[[Captain America: The First Avenger]]''|| || ||In Arsenal||2011
|-
| ''[[Super 8]]''|| [[Glynn Turman]] || Dr. Woodward || HB ||2011
|-
| ''[[Super 8]]''|| [[Brett Rice]] || Sheriff Pruitt || HB ||2011
|-
| ''[[Gangster Squad]]''||[[Michael Peña]]||Det. Ramirez||.||2012
|-
| ''[[Meeting Evil]]''|| [[Samuel L. Jackson]] || Richie || 5" M&P ||2012
|-
| ''[[Cold War]]''||||HKPF officers||.||2012
|-
|}

=== Television ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Air Date'''
|-
|''[[Avengers, The (1961)|The Avengers]]''|| || || ||1961-1969
|-
|''[[Dragnet (1967)|Dragnet]]''||[[Jack Webb]]||Det. Joe Friday|| ||1967-1970
|-
| ''[[Sinful People of Prague, The|The Sinful People of Prague]]'' || [[Rudolf Macharovský]] || Pírko || "Černé rukavice" || 1968-70
|-
| ''[[Sinful People of Prague, The|The Sinful People of Prague]]'' || || Police officer || "Malý a velký vrah" || 1968-70
|-
|''[[Police Story(1973-1977)|Police Story]]''|| ||L.A.P.D. Officers|| ||1973-1977
|-
|''[[Police Story(1973-1977)|Police Story]]''||[[Jan-Michael Vincent]]||Officer Hauser|| ||1973-1977
|-
|''[[Police Story(1973-1977)|Police Story]]''||[[Kurt Russell]]||L.A.P.D. Cadet Crawford|| ||1973-1977
|-
|''[[Police Story(1973-1977)|Police Story]]''||[[Earl Holliman]]||Sgt. Ryan|| ||1973-1977
|-
|''[[Police Story(1973-1977)|Police Story]]''||[[Lincoln Kilpatrick]]||Sgt. Bruckner|| ||1973-1977
|-
|''[[The Professionals]]''|| ||A Special Branch agent|| "Fall Girl" ||1977-1981
|-
|''[[Cagney & Lacey]]''||[[Tyne Daly]]||Det. Mary Beth Lacey || ||1981-1988
|-
|''[[Cagney & Lacey]]||[[Sharon Gless]]||Sgt. Christine Cagney || ||1981-1988
|-
|''[[A-Team, The| The A-Team]]''||[[George Peppard]]||John "Hannibal" Smith|| ||1983-1988
|-
|''[[Dempsey and Makepeace]]''||[[Glynis Barber]]||Det. Sgt. Makepeace||snub-nosed ||1985-86
|-
|''[[Dempsey and Makepeace]]''||[[Ray Smith]]||Chief Supt. Spikings||snub-nosed ||1985-86
|-
|''[[Dempsey and Makepeace]]''||[[Tony Osoba]]||Det. Sgt. Jarvis||snub-nosed ||1985-86
|-
|''[[Dempsey and Makepeace]]''||[[Tony Osoba]]||Det. Sgt. Hargreaves||snub-nosed, "Guardian Angel" (S03E10) ||1986
|-
|''[[Tour of Duty]]'' ||[[William Allen Young]]||Captain Slaney|| ||1987-1990
|-
|''[[Hunter - Season 4|Hunter]]'' ||[[Héctor Mercado]]||Santiago Munez|| "Flashpoint" (S04E04) ||1987
|-
|''[[Police Rescue]]''||. ||Australian police|| ||1989-1996
|-
| ''[[Agatha Christie's Miss Marple]]'' || [[Neal Swettenham]] || Edgar Lawson || "They Do It with Mirrors"; M&P || 1991
|-
|''[[Law & Order]]''|| || NYPD officers || HB ||1990-2010
|-
|''[[Law & Order - Season 3|Law & Order]]''|| [[Adam Arkin]] || George Costas || "Self Defense" (S03E07), HB ||1992
|-
|''[[Law & Order - Season 3|Law & Order]]''|| [[Anthony Ruiz]] || Officer Fowler || "Mother Love" (S03E15), HB ||1993
|-
|''[[Law & Order - Season 4|Law & Order]]''|| [[Richard Litt]] || Officer Greenberg || "Profile" (S04E04), HB ||1993
|-
|''[[Law & Order - Season 5|Law & Order]]''|| [[Ron Ryan]] || Wallace || "Seed" (S05E15), HB ||1995
|-
|''[[Law & Order - Season 6|Law & Order]]''|| || Shopkeeper || "Hot Pursuit" (S06E05), HB ||1995
|-
|''[[Stand, The|The Stand]]''||[[Laura San Giacomo]]||Nadine Cross|| ||1994
|-
|''[[The Thin Blue Line]]''||[[David Haig]]||Inspector Grimm||"Fly on the Wall" ||1995-1996
|-
|''[[Blue Murder]]''|| ||Australian police|| ||1995
|-
|''[[Third Watch]]''||[[Skip Sudduth]]||Officer John "Sully" Sullivan|| ||1999-2005
|-
|''[[Monk]]''||[[Greg Grunberg]]||Jack Leverett|| "Mr. Monk and the Actor" (S5E1) ||2002-2009
|-
|''[[Ultimate Force]]'' ||[[Eddie Marsan]]||"Badger"||HB version/ "The Killing House"||2002
|-
|''[[CSI: NY - Season 5|CSI: NY]]''|| || || "Enough" (S05E06)||2004-Present
|-
|''[[CSI: NY - Season 7|CSI: NY]]''||[[Michael Irby]]||Kenny Hexton|| "Exit Strategy" (S07E22)||2004-Present
|-
|''[[Criminal Minds - Season 2|Criminal Minds]]'' || [[Matthew Gray Gubler]] || Dr. Spencer Reid || Early M&P Variant / "Revelations" (S2E15)|| 2007
|-
|''[[Criminal Minds - Season 2|Criminal Minds]]'' || [[James Van Der Beek]] || 'Tobias' || Early M&P Variant / "Revelations" (S2E15)|| 2007
|-
|''[[Criminal Minds - Season 5|Criminal Minds]]'' || [[Michael Adler]] || Patrick Meyers || Model 10 HB / "Nameless, Faceless" (S5E01) ||2009
|-
|''[[Beast, The (2009)|The Beast]]''|| ||Thug|| ||2009
|-
|''[[Boardwalk Empire]]''||[[Stephen Graham]]||Al Capone||.||2010-Present
|-
|''[[Haven]]''|| [[Cristián de la Fuente]] || Cornell Stamoran || ||2011
|-
|''[[Vegas (2012)|Vegas]]''||[[Dennis Quaid]]||Sheriff Lamb||.||2012-Present
|-
|}

===Anime===
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|-
|''[[Kochikame]]''||The Mafia|| ||1996 - 2005
|-
|''[[Black Lagoon]]''||Roanapur Police|| ||2006
|-
|''[[Baccano!]]''|| || ||2007
|-
|}
===Video Game===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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|-
|''[[Conflict: Vietnam]]''||S&W Cal .38 Special Revolver||Model 10-5 with lanyard ring||2004
|-
|''[[Manhunt]]''|| || ||2004
|-
|''[[Manhunt 2]]''|| || ||2007
|-
|''[[Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven]]''|| || ||2007
|-
|''[[NCIS: The Video Game]]''|| || ||2011
|-
|}
 

== See Also ==
* [[Smith & Wesson]] - A list of all firearms manufactured by Smith & Wesson.
* [[Smith & Wesson Model 13]] -.357 version of the Smith & Wesson Model 10
* [[Smith & Wesson Model 64]] - Stainless Steel version of the Smith & Wesson Model 10

[[Category:Gun|Smith & Wesson Model 010]]
[[Category:Revolver]]

The Battle of Algiers

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Gun Shy: identifed "unknown Smith & Wesson revolver" as S&W Model 10 (aka M&P)

[[File:BattleofAlgierscover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Battle of Algiers'' (1966).]]

'''''The Battle of Algiers''''' (French Title: '''''La Bataille d'Alger'''''; Italian Title: '''''La battaglia di Algeri''''') is a 1966 war film directed by Gillo Pontecorvo. Based on true events that occurred between 1954 and 1957, the film depicts the rise of an Algerian National Liberation Front (FLN) cell in Algiers, its violent confrontations with the French colonial authorities, and its eventual destruction at the hands of French paratroopers. The film is widely regarded as a classic by revolutionaries and governments alike for its realistic portrayal of urban insurgent and counter-insurgency tactics.

'''The following weapons can be seen in the film ''The Battle of Algiers''''':

__TOC__ 

=Handguns=

==Smith & Wesson Model 10 Revolver==

Ali La Pointe ([[Brahim Hagiag]]) attempts to shoot a Smith & Wesson Model 10 revolver at a gendarme during his first mission as a FLN guerrilla.

[[Image:S&W_Model_M&P.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 Revolver]]‎
[[File:Boalg-rev-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ali surprises the gendarme with a revolver.]]
[[File:Boalg-rev-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ali pulls the trigger, only to realize the weapon was not loaded.]]

==Mle 1892 Revolver==

FLN guerrillas make frequent use of the [[Mle 1892 Revolver]] during hit-and-run attacks on French gendarmes.

[[Image:Mle 1892.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Modele d’Ordonnance Mle 1892 Revolver]]
[[File:Boalg-rev-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A FLN guerrilla aims a Mle 1892 at an unsuspecting gendarme.]]
[[File:Boalg-rev-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A gendarme is shot by a guerrilla as he responds to a gunshot inside the police station.]]
[[File:Boalg-rev-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A child guerrilla shoots a gendarme with a Mle 1892 retrieved from a waste basket.]]

==MAB Model D==

Gendarmes are armed with [[MAB Model D]] pistols, which the FLN guerrillas often capture after their attacks.

[[Image:MABDB.jpg|thumb|none|300px| French MAB Model D Pistol - 32 ACP]]
[[File:Boalg-pistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A FLN guerrilla takes a pistol from a dead gendarme after shooting him in broad daylight.]]
[[File:Boalg-pistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A guerrilla flees from an attack with a [[Mle 1892 Revolver]] in one hand and a [[MAB Model D]] in the other.]]

==M1911A1 Pistol==

[[M1911A1]] pistols are seen in the waistbands of FLN guerrillas. One is also seen on a table as Ali La Pointe ([[Brahim Hagiag]]) and his comrades plan an attack as French paratroopers close in on their location.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|World War II issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Boalg-M1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1911A1 is tucked into a FLN guerrilla's waistband as they lead a crowd of angry Casbah residents.]]
[[File:Boalg-M1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ali lays a M1911A1 on the table as he talks to Hassiba, Mahmoud and Omar.]]

=Submachine Guns=

==MAT-49==

The [[MAT-49]] is the most common weapon in the film, appearing in the hands of numerous FLN guerrillas and French soldiers. Virtually all of the paratroopers led by Colonel Mathieu ([[Jean Martin]]) use MAT-49s.

[[Image:MAT-49.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|MAT-49 Submachine Gun - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Boalg-MAT49-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ali guns down an Algerian collaborator with a MAT-49.]]
[[File:Boalg-MAT49-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier fires the MAT-49 at a fleeing guerrilla.]]
[[File:Boalg-MAT49-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FLN guerrillas fire a MAT-49 during an ambush.]]
[[File:Boalg-MAT49-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ali holds a MAT-49 while hiding from French troops. The large blank adaptor can be clearly seen in this shot.]]
[[File:Boalg-MAT49-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|French paratroopers hold MAT-49s during a standoff with some guerrillas.]]
[[File:Boalg-MAT49-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A paratrooper fires a MAT-49 as a diversion as engineers set explosive charges to blast El Jaffar (Yacef Saadi) from his hiding place.]]

=Rifles=

==MAS-36==

French soldiers guarding the checkpoints around the Casbah carry [[MAS-36]] rifles.

[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MAS-36 7.5x54mm French]]
[[File:Boalg-MAS36-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soldiers with MAS-36 rifles guard a checkpoint.]]
[[File:Boalg-MAS36-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier searches the residents as they leave the Casbah.]]
[[File:Boalg-MAS36-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Col. Mathieu uses a film of soldiers at a checkpoint to point out their error in searching the residents in Arabic dress and letting those in European dress - including FLN guerrillas - through unmolested.]]

==MAS-49==

Some French soldiers carry [[MAS-49]] rifles, distinguishable as earlier models by their longer length and lack of an integral grenade launcher/muzzle brake. A FLN guerrilla is seen with one after a raid on a police station.

[[File:MAS-49-firstmodel.jpg|thumb|none|399px|MAS-49 - 7.5x54mm French]]
[[File:Boalg-MAS49-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier with a MAS-49 patrols along the perimeter that is set up to seal off the Casbah.]]
[[File:Boalg-MAS49-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soldiers inspect the papers of Arab civilians.]]
[[File:Boalg-MAS49-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A guerrilla flees with a MAS-49 after attacking a police station.]]

==M1 Garand==

At least one soldier is armed with a [[M1 Garand]] while rounding up innocent Algerians following a FLN bomb attack.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]]
[[File:Boalg-Garand-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An innocent street cleaner is arrested by police officers and soldiers after the bomb attack.]]

==M1 Carbine==

Post-war [[M1 Carbine|M1 Carbines]] are used by some soldiers and a number of the paratroopers.

[[Image:M1c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M1 Carbine (Post-War) - .30 Carbine]]
[[File:Boalg-carbine-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier with a M1 Carbine guards a checkpoint.]]
[[File:Boalg-carbine-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Carbine-equipped soldier arrests the street cleaner.]]
[[File:Boalg-carbine-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A paratrooper holds a carbine as they search the Casbah.]]
[[File:Boalg-carbine-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1 Carbine is seen when Col. Mathieu gives a final ultimatum to Ali.]]

=Machine Guns=

==MAS AA-52==

A paratrooper holds a [[MAS AA-52]] machine gun during a standoff with trapped FLN guerrillas.

[[File:AA52.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MAS AA-52 GPMG - 7.5x54mm French.]]
[[File:Boalg-AA52-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:Boalg-MAT49-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The paratrooper watches as the guerrillas lower a basket for messages.]]

=Other=

==OF 37 Grenade==

Some of the paratroopers have OF 37 grenades attached to their webbing.

[[File:Boalg-grenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A paratrooper notices something wrong about a group of women in veils.]]
[[File:Boalg-grenade-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An OF 37 grenade is attached to a paratrooper's belt as they wait for guerrillas to surrender.]]

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