https://www.buildlogs.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Flexo 2026-05-14T08:33:51Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.41.0 https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Battle_for_Moscow&diff=626278 2012-10-28T16:12:32Z

<p>Flexo: /* 7,5 cm PaK 40 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Infobox Movie<br /> |name = Battle for Moscow &lt;BR&gt; Bitva za Moskvu<br /> |picture = BitvaZaMoskvu-Poster.jpg<br /> |caption = ''Film poster''<br /> |country = [[Image:SOV.jpg|25px]] USSR &lt;BR&gt; [[Image:GDR.jpg|25px]] East Germany &lt;BR&gt; [[Image:CZE.jpg|25px]] Czechoslovakia &lt;BR&gt; [[Image:VIET.jpg|25px]] Vietnam<br /> |director = Yuri Ozerov<br /> |date= 1985<br /> |language = Russian &lt;BR&gt; German<br /> |studio=Mosfilm &lt;BR&gt; Deutsche Film (DEFA) &lt;BR&gt; Filmove studio Barrandov &lt;BR&gt; FAFIM Viet Nam<br /> |distributor=<br /> |character1=Yosif Stalin<br /> |actor1=[[Yakov Tripolsky]]<br /> |character2=Georgy Zhukov<br /> |actor2=[[Mikhail Ulyanov]]<br /> |character3=Konstantin Rokossovskiy<br /> |actor3=[[Aleksandr Goloborodko]]<br /> |character4=Vyacheslav Molotov<br /> |actor4=[[Nikolai Zasukhin]]<br /> |character5=Kliment Voroshilov<br /> |actor5=[[Vladimir Troshin]]<br /> |character6=Ivan Konev<br /> |actor6=[[Mikk Mikiver]]<br /> |character7=Adolf Hitler<br /> |actor7=[[Akhim Petri]]<br /> |character8=Heinz Guderian<br /> |actor8=[[Erik Veldre]]<br /> |character9=Fedor von Bock<br /> |actor9=[[Ernst Heise]]<br /> |character10=<br /> |actor10=<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''''Battle for Moscow'''''(Russian Title: '''''Bitva za Moskvu/Битва за Москву''''') is a 1985 Russian/East German/Czechoslovak/Vietnamese World War II drama directed by Yuri Ozerov. The film consists of two parts. In first part (named ''Aggression'') shows the events that took place in Summer 1941 on the Eastern front: the sudden Nazi Germany's attack on Soviet Union and heroic defense of the Brest Fortress. In second part (named ''Operation Typhoon'') shows battle for Moscow, in which German troops has suffered their first major defeat in World War II. This battle was one of the largest during the War, with more than a million total casualties.<br /> <br /> {{Film Title|Battle for Moscow}}<br /> __TOC__&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;<br /> =Handguns=<br /> ==Tokarev TT-33==<br /> [[Tokarev TT-33]] is the standard sidearm of Russian officers. In movie mostly seen holstered<br /> [[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-TT.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet Army Captain armed with the Tokarev TT-33]]<br /> <br /> ==SPSh Flare Pistol==<br /> [[Image:SPSh Flare Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Russian SPSh Flare Pistol 26.5mm]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-SPSh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet Army Captain fires [[SPSh Flare Pistol]]]]<br /> <br /> =Submachine Guns=<br /> ==PPSh-41==<br /> [[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-PPSh.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Georgy Zhukov's [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSH-41]] on a table]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-PPSh2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet Army soldiers with the PPSh-41 submachine guns take part in a legendary 1941 military parade on Red Square. All troops were leaving Red Square straight to the front line]]<br /> <br /> ==MP40==<br /> German troops widely use [[MP40]] submachine guns in this movie.<br /> [[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-MP40.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German Army vanguard on a bus stop Krasnaya Polyana (25 km from Moscow). It was the place of closest advance by the German army to Moscow in 1941. German soldiers armed with the MP40 submachine guns. Also you can see [[MG34]] machine guns mounted on motocycles. Actually it visually modified [[PK]] machine guns]]<br /> <br /> =Rifles=<br /> ==Mosin Nagant Rifle==<br /> ===Full-length Mosin Nagant Rifle===<br /> [[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Soviet Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Mosin.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The commander of 21st Army's 63rd Rifle Corps Lieutenant General Petrovsky ([[Yuriy Yakovlev]]) leads his troops into battle trying to escape the encircled. He holds full-length [[Mosin Nagant Rifle]]]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Mosin2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Podolsk infantry school cadets armed with the full-length Mosin-Nagant rifles. 2000 cadets of Podolsk infantry school and 1500 cadets of Podolsk artillery school fought against the superior forces of the German Army during October 1941. Most of them were killed in action (2500 cadets). But during battle they killed up to 5000 German soldiers and officers and destroyed up to 100 German tanks]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Mosin3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet soldier holds the Mosin-Nagant rifle]]<br /> <br /> === Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine ===<br /> Mosin Nagant M38 carbines is a standard weapon of the Soviet artillery gun crews<br /> [[Image:M38Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Soviet Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-MosinM38.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet gunner loads 152mm ML20 howitzer-gun. He armed with the Mosin Nagant M38 carbine]]<br /> <br /> ==Karabiner 98k==<br /> [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-98k.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet Army Captain holds captured [[Karabiner 98k]]]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-98k2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German soldiers escorted captive Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya ([[Irina Shmeleva]]) to the execution place. Zoya was one of the most revered heroes of the Soviet Union]]<br /> <br /> ==PTRD-41==<br /> [[Image:PTRD-41.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PTRD-41 anti-tank rifle 14.5x114mm]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-PTRD.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The soldiers of 316th Infantry Division ready to open fire with [[PTRD-41]] antitank rifles. There was a heavy fighting near the village of Dubosekovo when twenty-eight soldiers from the 1075th Regiment of 316th Division destroyed eighteen German tanks]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-PTRD2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet soldier fires the PTRD-41 AT rifle]]<br /> <br /> =Machine Guns=<br /> ==Degtyaryov DP-27==<br /> [[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DP-27 machine gun, 7.62x54mm R]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-DP.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moscow militiaman fires [[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun#Degtyaryov DP-27/DP-28|Degtyaryov DP-27]] at approaching German troops]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-DP2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Podolsk infantry school cadet fires the DP-27]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-DP3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet soldier fires DP-27 at German tank crew]]<br /> <br /> ==Degtyaryov DT==<br /> [[Image:DT tank machine gun TBiU 11.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DT machine gun - 7.62x54mm R]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-DT.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hull mounted [[Degtyaryov_DP_Series_Machine_Gun#Degtyaryov_DT|DT]] in the T-34 tank]]<br /> <br /> ==PK Machine Gun (modified to resemble MG34)==<br /> Real [[MG34]] can be seen only in documentary footage. Other MG34s used in this movie are visually modified [[PK]] machine guns<br /> [[Image:PKasMG34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A picture of the original MG34 and PK conversion]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-PKMG34.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Fake MG34 mounted on Tatra OT-810 half-tracked personnel carrier (Czech variation of German SdKfz. 251 personnel carrier)]]<br /> <br /> ==Maxim M1910/30==<br /> [[Image:Maxim M1910 30.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian Maxim 1910/30, post 1941 manufacture with top hatch on cooling jacket allowing it to be filled more quickly or with snow - 7.62x54mmR]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Maxim.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet soldiers fire [[Maxim#Maxim M1910/30|Maxim]] machine gun during battle at Borodino field]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Maxim2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Maxim M1910/30 with the old type of cooling jacket can be seen on the top of trench]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Maxim3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet soldiers fire M4 anti-aircraft QUAD mount for Maxim machine gun. Note one of the machine guns has old type of cooling jacket]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Maxim4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M4 anti-aircraft QUAD mount on a river armored boat]]<br /> <br /> ==37-mm M1939 (61-K)==<br /> [[Image:M1939 61-K.jpg|thumb|none|400px|37-mm M1939 (61-K) automatic air defense gun - 37x252SR]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-61K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|61-K automatic air defense gun can be seen on Brest fortress territory]]<br /> <br /> =Hand Grenades=<br /> == Model 24 Stielhandgranate ==<br /> [[Image:24-43 grenade.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Model 24 Stielhandgranate &quot;Potato Masher&quot; High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-M24.jpg|thumb|none|600px|French volunteers carry [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]]es in their belts. 638th French Infantry Regiment fought together with the German troops against the Soviet Army at Borodino field in November 1941]]<br /> <br /> ==RPG-40==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-RPG40.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPG-40 antitank grenades on a top of trench]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-RPG40-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet soldiers holds two RPG-40 grenades. Note this grenades has smooth top. Real PRG40 have hole for detonator]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-RPG40-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The politruk (political commissar) Clochkov ([[Aleksandr Voyevodin]]): ''Brothers! Russia is immense, but there is nowhere to retreat – Moscow is behind us!'']]<br /> <br /> =Other=<br /> ==TM-62M Anti-Tank Mine==<br /> [[Image:TM62.jpg|thumb|none|400px|TM-62M anti-tank mine]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-TM62.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Russian Komsomol saboteurs placing [[TM-62 anti-tank mine]] in a snow on a road. It's an anachronism. TM-62 was introduced only in 1960s]]<br /> <br /> =Artillery=<br /> ==45mm Anti-tank Gun M1937 (53-K)==<br /> [[Image:53-K.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1937 (53-K) Soviet anti-tank gun - 45mm (1.77 in)]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-53K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Russian gunners firing [[45 mm anti-tank gun M1937 (53-K)]] at the German tanks]]<br /> <br /> ==76 mm Divisional Gun M1942 (ZiS-3)==<br /> [[Image:ZiS3 nn.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1942 divisional gun (ZiS-3) - 76mm]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-ZiS3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|ZiS-3 without muzzle brake can be seen in ''Aggression'']]<br /> <br /> ==7,5 cm PaK 40==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Pak40.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German 7,5cm anti-tank gun abandoned by retreating German troops. Actually Pak40 entered service on Eastern Front only in spring of 1942]]<br /> <br /> ==122 mm Howitzer M1910/30==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-122Howitzer.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The 122mm howitzers M1910/30 can be seen in ''Aggression'' ]]<br /> <br /> ==76mm Air Defense Gun M1931 (3-K)==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-61K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|76mm 3-K air defense gun can be seen on Brest fortress territory behind the 61-K automatic air defense gun]]<br /> <br /> ==85 mm Air Defense Gun M1939 (52-K)==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-52K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|85mm air defense gun M1939 fires at German tanks]]<br /> <br /> ==122 mm Howitzer M1938 (M-30)==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-M30.jpg|thumb|none|600px|122mm howitzers M1938 (M-30) fire at German troops during battle at Borodino field]]<br /> <br /> ==152 mm Howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20)==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-ML-20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|152mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20) fires at approaching German troops]]<br /> <br /> =Gun Platformes=<br /> ==BA-20==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-BA20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The BA-20 armored car replica built on a GAZ-69 chassis]]<br /> <br /> ==Tatra OT-810==<br /> There are a lot of Tatra OT-810 half-tracked personnel carriers represented as German SdKfz. 251 personnel carriers were used in this movie. Some of them were armed with visually modified [[PK]] machine guns. Some have gun turret. Probably represented as Sd.Kfz. 251/9 &quot;Stummel&quot; self-propelled gun<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-OT810.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Czech Tatra OT-810 half-tracked personnel carrier]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-OT810-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Group of Tatra OT-810 personnel carriers. Some personnel carriers have gun turret]]<br /> <br /> ==BT-5==<br /> BT-5 light cavalry tank were widely used by Russian Army at first period of WW2. Most of BT tanks used in movie were built on T-34 tank chassis<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-BT5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scale Model of BT-5 ram the PzKpfw III tank. By the way BT-5 weight 11,5 tonnes. Panzer III weight more than 20 tonnes]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-BT5-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|BT-5 replicas built on T-34 chassis. Nearest tank represented as BT-5RT command tank. It's equipped with radio (note an antenna at the top of turret)]]<br /> <br /> ==T-34-76==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-T34-76.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet T-34-76 medium tank]]<br /> <br /> ==T-34-85==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-T34-85.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet T-34-85 medium tank fires at German tanks. Actually T-34-85 tanks entered service only in 1944]]<br /> <br /> ==PzKpfw III==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-BT5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scale Model of PzKpfw III tank]]<br /> <br /> ==Fake PzKpfw IV==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-PzIV.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Fake Panzer IV Ausf.F2 medium tank built on T-34 chassis. Actually Ausf.F2 entered service only in spring of 1942]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-PzIV-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Fake Panzer IV Ausf.F2 medium tanks built on T-44 chassis]]<br /> <br /> ==Kliment Voroshilov KV-1==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-KV.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kliment Voroshilov KV-1 heavy tank built on IS-2 chassis]]<br /> <br /> ==Fake PzKpfw VI Tiger==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Tiger.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Fake PzKpfw VI Tiger tank can be seen in some scenes. It's an anachronism]]<br /> <br /> ==T-62==<br /> In some episodes were used T-62 main battle tanks represented as German tanks. Because in this scenes were involving more than hundred of tanks at the same time. So for extras had to use modern tanks<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-T62.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet T-62 main battle tanks represented as German tanks]]<br /> <br /> ==German Diving Tank==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-DivingTank.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German Diving Tank tank forces the Bug river. Actually it's Soviet T-55 medium tank]]<br /> <br /> ==BM-13 Katyusha rocket launcher==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-BM13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|BM-13 Katyusha rocket launchers fire at the German troops during battle of Mtsensk. Actually there are fire BM-21 Grad rocket launchers. They are hidden behind BM-13. By the way it is a real firing! Not a visual effect!]]<br /> <br /> ==Zlin.326==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Zlin.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Czechoslovakian Zlin.326 Training aircraft represented as Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighter]]<br /> <br /> ==L-200 Morava==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Morava.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Czechoslovakian L-200 Morava light passenger aircrafts represented as Messerschmitt Bf 110 fighter-bombers]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Morava2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> ==Yakovlev Yak-18==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Yak-18.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Yakovlev Yak-18 training aircrafts represented as Ilyushin Il-2 ground-attack aircraft]]<br /> <br /> =Documentary Footage=<br /> ==MG34 Machine Gun==<br /> [[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down.]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-MG34.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German soldier carries the [[MG34]]]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-MG34-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twin MG34 machine gun anti-aircraft mount]]<br /> <br /> ==DShK Heavy Machine Gun==<br /> [[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DShKM on tripod - 12.7x108mm]]<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-DShK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet soldiers fire triplex mount [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s. Note the shape of muzzle brakes]]<br /> <br /> ==PzKpfw II==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-PzII.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German Panzer II light tank]]<br /> <br /> ==PzKpfw IV==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-PzIVDoc.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German Panzer IV medium tank armed with the 75mm low-velocity gun]]<br /> <br /> ==Char 2C Super-heavy Tank==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-2C.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Char 2C Super-heavy Tank. Each tank had been named after one of the ancient regions of France. This one named ''Normandie'']]<br /> <br /> ==Junkers Ju 87 Stuka==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-Ju87.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Junkers Ju 87 dive bombers]]<br /> <br /> ==Heinkel He 111==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-He111.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heinkel He 111 medium bombers]]<br /> <br /> ==283mm Krupp K5==<br /> [[Image:BitvaZaMoskvu-K5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Krupp 28-cm-Kanone 5 railway gun]]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Movie]]<br /> [[Category:War]]<br /> [[Category:Russian Produced/Filmed]]<br /> [[Category:German Produced/Filmed]]<br /> [[Category:Czech Produced/Filmed]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Raw_Deal_(1986)&diff=619547 2012-10-06T17:47:07Z

<p>Flexo: /* Heckler &amp; Koch HK94 */</p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Raw_deal.jpg|thumb|300px|right|''Raw Deal'' (1986)]]<br /> '''Raw Deal''' was a 1986 action film starring [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Mark Kaminsky, a disgraced FBI agent who is given a chance to go undercover to find a mole in the FBI, who was responsible for leaking information that killed a young FBI agent, the son of his friend, retired FBI Senior Agent Harry Shannon ([[Darren McGavin]]). ''Raw Deal'' was helmed by British director '''John Irvin''', who is familiar to movie buffs as the director of ''[[The Dogs of War]]'' and ''[[Hamburger Hill]]''. ''Raw Deal'' was Schwarzenegger's next film to capitalize on his hit movie ''[[Commando]]'' (1985), however it was only a moderate commercial success, owing a lot to the previous hit movie for its ticket sales. In Schwarzenegger's filmography, it is considered one of the action star's weaker films, despite the presence of several veteran actors/actresses in supporting roles and achieving a sort of cult film status for its quirky lines and action sequences. It should not be confused with the 1948 Crime Drama '''Raw Deal''' or the 1977 Western '''Raw Deal''', despite having the same title.<br /> <br /> '''The following weapons appear in the movie ''Raw Deal'':'''<br /> <br /> WARNING! SPOILERS AHEAD!<br /> <br /> =Submachine Guns=<br /> ==Heckler &amp; Koch HK94==<br /> <br /> In the climax of the film, Mark Kaminsky ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) goes to his hotel room and unpacks an arsenal of weapons hidden in a storage bag for his suit. One of the weapons is a [[Heckler &amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp; Koch HK94|Heckler &amp; Koch HK94]] semi-automatic carbine, the civilian version of the famous [[Heckler &amp; Koch MP5|MP5]]. His gun is the A3 model, which has a collapsible stock, as well as a ventilated barrel shroud, and a vertical fore grip mounted just to the front and slightly below the main sight. When he carries out his assault at the mine and later on Patrovita's hideout, the weapon is fired on full-auto, suggesting that it was converted by a Class III manufacturer to a legal full auto gun for the film. One detail that also reveals the conversion of a Semi auto carbine into a full auto gun is the lack of a paddle release for the magazine (which was standard on all original MP5s). It takes some fitting and the acquisition of a replacement H&amp;K paddle, and many armorers just didn't bother.<br /> <br /> Schwarzenegger is also seen brandishing this same weapon (or perhaps another, identical weapon) in publicity images and on the poster for the movie, seen above, albeit with no magazine loaded in the gun. A notable goof is that the weapon has the &quot;slimline&quot;-type handguard when Kaminsky is seen loading it in his hotel room, but for the rest of the film, it has the &quot;tropical&quot; or &quot;wide&quot;-type handguard.<br /> [[Image:HK94A3 shroud.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Heckler &amp; Koch HK94A3 with barrel shroud &amp; &quot;tropical&quot; handguard.]]<br /> [[File:RawDpub.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Publicity image of [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] holding the HK94 (sans magazine).]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-67748.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kaminsky slaps a magazine into his HK94. Note the &quot;slimline&quot;-type handguard.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-71832.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kaminsky driving through the quarry, popping bad guys with his HK94 on full-auto. His HK94 now has the &quot;tropical&quot; handguard.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-79395.jpg|thumb|600px|none|He doesn't seem to have a problem firing the HK94 with only one hand, as demonstrated here.]]<br /> <br /> ==International Ordnance MP2 machine pistol== <br /> <br /> An [[International Ordnance MP2]] machine pistol is used by Kaminski during the casino shootout. The International Ordance MP2 had a front grip that doubled as an extra mag holder. This portion has evidently been removed for the film. The pistol is basically a shortened STEN tube with a magwell/pistol grip very similar to that of an M-11/9mm smg. I have never seen a live example of one besides in this film but pictures do exist. It bears a striking resemblance to the SM-9 but is in fact a different firearm. The muzzle my have been installed not much for vanity but to reduce barrel climb so it can be handled without the front grip. <br /> [[Image:InternationalOrdnanceMP2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|International Ordnance MP2 machine pistol, 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br /> [[Image:Iomp2.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|International Ordnance MP2 machine pistol, 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-68056.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kaminsky loads a magazine into his MP2.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-68211.jpg|thumb|600px|none|An extreme close-up of the machine pistol as he puts it back in the bag.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-69661.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kaminsky grabs the machine pistol before using it to shoot out the windshield of his car.]]<br /> [[Image:RawDeal 015.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kaminsky opens fire on the mobsters with his MP2.]]<br /> <br /> ==(Fake) Uzi==<br /> <br /> The mobsters are also seen wielding submachine guns that might appear at first to be [[Uzi]]s (some with fixed wooden buttstocks, others with folding stocks). However, a close-inspection of the receivers reveals that they are actually [[MAC-10]]s that have been visually modified to resemble the Uzi, fitted with Uzi barrels, front and rear sights, forward grips, and stocks. These exact same prop weapons also appear in several other Hollywood movies, including ''[[The Dogs of War]]'' and ''[[Stripes]]''.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-59410.jpg|thumb|600px|none|In the opening hit on a mob witness, a mobster opens fire with the MAC-10 mocked up to resemble the Uzi. This particular weapon is fitted with a fixed stock.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-59747.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A close-up of the same mobster's &quot;Uzi&quot;.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD_7008.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When a bus pulls up and opens fire on Patrovita and his bodyguards, the distinctive barrel and forward grip of the fake Uzi is seen as one of the machine guns.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD 0003.jpg|thumb|600px|none|In the final casino shootout, Kaminski uses the mock Uzi. His &quot;Uzi&quot; is fitted with the adjustable stock.]]<br /> [[Image:RawDeal 009.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kaminski fires the mock Uzi.]]<br /> <br /> ==MAC-10==<br /> One of Petrovita's soldiers fires on Kaminski with an actual [[MAC-10]] in the final casino shootout.<br /> [[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|450px|none|MAC-10 - .45 ACP]]‎<br /> [[Image:RawD 7038.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mobster on the left opens fire on Kaminsky with his MAC-10.]]<br /> =Handguns=<br /> ==Dan Wesson Model 15 ==<br /> <br /> One of the other weapons which Kaminsky has in his suit storage bag is a [[Dan Wesson revolvers|Dan Wesson Model 15]] revolver. Most notably, he uses the weapon to kill the driver of a huge off-road dump truck who is trying to run him down while he's holed up in a trailer.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Danwesson357 web.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Dan Wesson Model 15 - .357 Magnum]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-68359.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kaminsky checks the load in his Dan Wesson revolver]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-74126.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Raising his Dan Wesson revolver with one hand, Kaminsky prepares to finish off the truck driver.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Dan Wesson Model 15-VH==<br /> Several Patrovita soldiers use [[Dan Wesson revolvers|Dan Wesson Model 15]] in the final shootout with Kaminsky.<br /> [[Image:DW15-VH.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Dan Wesson Revolver Model 15-VH - .357 Magnum]]<br /> [[Image:RawDeal 010.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of Patrovita's soldiers ([[Sven-Ole Thorsen]]) gets ready to take on Kaminsky with his Dan Wesson revolver.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-77167.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Patrovita soldier fires his Dan Wesson. His handgun has a squared lug which is a characteristic of Dan Wesson revolvers.]]<br /> <br /> ==Smith &amp; Wesson Model 10==<br /> One of Patrovita's soldiers fires a [[Smith &amp; Wesson Model 10]].<br /> [[Image:S&amp;WModel10HB.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith &amp; Wesson Model 10 HB (heavy barrel) revolver (Post 1950s Model) - .38 Special. Later incarnations of the Model 10 had a non-tapered heavy barrel, which leads it to be commonly mistaken for a .357 revolver.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-65868.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Patrovita soldier fires his S&amp;W.]]<br /> <br /> ==Smith &amp; Wesson Model 27/28==<br /> <br /> It's possible that [[Smith &amp; Wesson Model 27 / 28]] makes several appearances in the movie. The first time is at the beginning when the federal witness is assassinated along with the FBI agents guarding him. One of the agents appears to be firing a 27/28 w/4&quot; barrel (ineffectively) before being gunned down. There is another scene when Kaminsky takes a car from gangsters then launches the car into an illegal casino. It appears that Kaminsky pulls a Model 27/28 from his suit coat when he gets into the limo of rival mobster Lamansky ([[Steven Hill]]). The revolver looks like the large N frame with the tapered barrel that is a characteristic of the .357 magnum N frame.<br /> [[Image:Model28HP2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|S&amp;W Model 28 Highway Patrolman with 4&quot; bl.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD_7009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kaminsky gets in Lamansky's limo and pulls a S&amp;W on his driver.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD_7010.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Lamansky's driver gets the S&amp;W put in his face.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD_7017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As he chases Lamansky's limo, Kaminsky leans out the window and fires his S&amp;W.]]<br /> <br /> ==Smith &amp; Wesson Model 586==<br /> FBI Special Agent Harry Shannon ([[Darren McGavin]]) carries a [[Smith &amp; Wesson Model 586]] when he's ambushed by Max Keller ([[Robert Davi]]).<br /> [[Image:586 snubbie.jpg|thumb|none|450px|586 with 2.5&quot; barrel]]<br /> [[Image:RD 306.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FBI Special Agent Harry Shannon ([[Darren McGavin]]) pulls a [[Smith &amp; Wesson Model 586]] when he's ambushed by Keller and his men.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD 7051.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Harry hits the ground with his S&amp;W after he's wounded in the ambush.]]<br /> <br /> == Smith &amp; Wesson Model 15 ==<br /> A [[Smith &amp; Wesson Model 15]] is held by one of Patrovita's soldiers during the Chicago PD raid on a hideout.<br /> [[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Smith &amp; Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]<br /> [[Image:RD 328.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A [[Smith &amp; Wesson Model 15]] is held by one of Patrovita's soldiers during the Chicago PD raid on a hideout.]]<br /> <br /> ==Smith &amp; Wesson Model 15 (Snub)==<br /> FBI Special Agent Blair Shannon is seen holding a [[Smith &amp; Wesson Model 15#Smith &amp; Wesson Model 15 Snub|S&amp;W Model 15 Snub]] in the beginning of the film. At the end, Kaminsky takes a S&amp;W off the floor and gives it to Baxter, telling him to &quot;resign or be prosecuted&quot;.<br /> [[Image:M15M07.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp; Wesson Model 15 with a 2 inch barrel]]<br /> [[Image:RawD 7003.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-80935.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]<br /> [[Image:RawD 7045.jpg|thumb|600px|none|&quot;Resign or be prosecuted. Any way you want it.&quot;]]<br /> [[Image:RawD 7046.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Baxter ([[Joe Regalbuto]]) holds the S&amp;W.]]<br /> <br /> ==Smith &amp; Wesson Model 29==<br /> Chicago cop Baker ([[Ed Lauter]]) carries a [[Smith &amp; Wesson Model 29]] snubnose as he and other cops raid one of Patrovita's hideouts.<br /> [[Image:sw m29.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Smith &amp; Wesson Model 29 with 3&quot; barrel.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-62404.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Baker ([[Ed Lauter]]) draws his S&amp;W on Patrovita's men.]]<br /> <br /> == Charter Arms ==<br /> A female Chicago undercover cop surprises a Patrovita lookout by drawing a [[Charter Arms Off Duty]] revolver on him. It could either be the undercover, or the off duty.<br /> [[Image:CharterArmsOffDuty.png|thumb|none|350px|Charter Arms - .38 Special]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-61959.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The female undercover cop pulls her Charter Arms.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD_7014.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> ==Charter Arms Off Duty (Stainless)==<br /> Patrovita uses a stainless [[Charter Arms Off Duty]] in the final casino shootout.<br /> [[Image:CharterArmsOffDutySS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Charter Arms Off Duty Stainless - .38 Special]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-75101.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Patrovita and his soldiers prepare to take on Kaminsky.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-75220.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Patrovita is on the left side with his Charter Arms.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD 7034.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A closeup of Patrovita's stainless Charter Arms.]]<br /> <br /> ==Colt M1911A1==<br /> A stainless [[Colt M1911A1]] is held by one of the Chicago police officers during the raid on the Patrovita hideout.<br /> [[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]<br /> [[Image:RD 333.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> <br /> =Shotguns=<br /> ==Mossberg 500AT shotgun==<br /> The last weapon in Kaminsky's weapons cache is a [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun|Mossberg 500AT shotgun]] fitted with a riot barrel with a heavy choke and a pistol grip. This is likely the same shotgun used in ''[[Code of Silence]].''<br /> [[Image:Mossber500CPistolGrip.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 500AT Shotgun with pistol grip and heavy choke - 12 gauge]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-68761.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kaminsky ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) works the action on his Mossberg 500AT Shotgun - 12 gauge]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-68881.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Kaminsky's Mossberg 500AT Shotgun cocked and ready for action - 12 gauge.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD 7044.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kaminsky uses his Mossberg to take out Patrovita.]]<br /> <br /> ==Mossberg 500==<br /> What appears to be a [[Mossberg 500]] shotgun is carried by one of the Chicago police officers during the raid on a Patrovita hideout. <br /> [[Image:RD 332.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> =Rifles=<br /> ==MGC Replica M16==<br /> <br /> Among the weapons carried throughout the film by the mobsters are [[M16 rifle series#M16|MGC M16]] assault rifles - identifiable by the fact that they don't fire and they have the fake forward assist and upside down three pronged flash hider.<br /> <br /> [[Image:MGC16.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The MGC M16 Assault rifle: a non-firing metal replica built by the Model Gun Corp of Japan and one of the most used non-firing replicas of the M16 in movies and television.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-70937.jpg|thumb|601px|none|One of the thugs at the mine brandishing an MGC M16 replica, identifiable by the fake forward assist and upside down three-pronged flash hider.]]<br /> <br /> ==M16A1==<br /> When the Patrovita guard fires on Kaminsky, the MGC is changed out for an [[M16 rifle series|M16A1]].<br /> [[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm.]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-71438.jpg|thumb|601px|none|The same thug aims his M16A1 at Kaminsky's car.]]<br /> [[Image:RawD 7028.jpg|thumb|601px|none|The same thug fires at Kaminsky's car. Note that the MGC is changed out for an [[M16 rifle series|M16A1]] as the shells are seen ejecting from the side.]]<br /> <br /> ==(Fake) XM177 ==<br /> <br /> The mobsters are also frequently seen using some type of [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series|CAR-15]] variation that appears to resemble an XM177, but it's actually a converted AR15 SP1 carbine made to look like an XM177. These are the same guns seen in ''[[The Dogs of War]]'' (Special Effects Unlimited, the company which supplied weapons for that film, were also the armorers on this film).<br /> <br /> [[Image:FakeXM177.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Late 1970s model AR15 Sporter 1 Carbine - converted into an XM177 Lookalike for the film ''[[The Dogs of War]]'' - 5.56mm]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-71978.jpg|thumb|601px|none|One of the quarry thugs firing at Kaminsky's car with a CAR-15-type gun.]]<br /> [[Image:RawDeal 004.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Kaminsky fires the Sporter in the casino shootout.]]<br /> [[Image:RD 324.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Marvin Baxter ([[Joe Regalbuto]]) grabs a discarded Sporter when he sees Kaminsky coming towards him.]]<br /> <br /> ==M14 Rifle==<br /> Another mob hitman is seen sniping with a semi-automatic rifle fitted with a suppressor and scope. This is either a military [[M14 Rifle|M14]], or (more likely) an M1A, the semi-automatic civilian version of the M14 (manufactured by several manufacturers over the years, but the term M1A is copyrighted to Springfield Armory. Other makers of the Semi-auto M14 rifle are Federal Ordnance, Fulton Armory, Rock Island Armory and Norinco/Poly Technologies of China.)<br /> [[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> [[Image:Vlcsnap-63836.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A mob hitman sniping with a scoped and suppressed M14 (or M1A).]]<br /> <br /> ==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==<br /> One of the mob hitmen at the film's beginning uses a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] to eliminate one of the FBI agents. A sawed off double barreled is used during the attempt on Harry's life.<br /> [[File:Stevens12GaugeShotgun.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]<br /> [[Image:RawDeal 001.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the mob hitmen at the film's beginning uses a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]].]]<br /> [[Image:RawD 7018.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A sawed off double barreled is used during the attempt on Harry's life.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Movie]]<br /> [[Category:Action Movie]]<br /> [[Category:Crime]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Breaking_Bad&diff=611589 2012-09-10T15:23:20Z

<p>Flexo: /* Jesse gun */</p> <hr /> <div>Hank's Glock is .40 cal as stated in the first episode so its a Glock 22 not a 17. Also here are the other guns from the first season: S&amp;W4506, Ruger GP100, HK416, and in the first episode of season two jesse buys a snub nosed 5 shot revolver.<br /> <br /> == M4 ==<br /> <br /> The M4 claimed to be used by Tuco seems to be a CAR-15<br /> <br /> Yeah I don't know what the make and model of the snub nosed revolver is yet. Thanks for the tip on the Glock situation, though.<br /> <br /> ==Negro Y Azul==<br /> I'll have the caps for it by tonight [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencappin' ==<br /> <br /> I going to screencap this series when the DVDs come out.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencaps ==<br /> <br /> I'm not a member of IMFDB, but how would I go about providing screens? I have the first season on DVD and on the day of the second season's release, I plan on purchasing it.<br /> <br /> You can use VLC player to capture screenshots. It will capture them as PNG files, so you'll have to use a Batch image converter to convert to JPG before you upload your shots. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You can set up the VLC player so it will capture them as jpg. Go to Tools, Preferences, then video and change the format from png to jpg.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, though my issue wasn't so much with getting the screencaps, as it was with uploading them. I '''have''' to be a member to upload files. It isn't a problem, I just didn't want to join with plans to only contribute to one page.<br /> <br /> == Need Help ==<br /> <br /> After going through both the first and second season, I do believe I have captured every instance of a gun on screen. I have a lot of screenshots of guns that aren't even mentioned or pointed out on the page. I don't know much about guns myself, so if I posted these extra images here, could I get some assistance with ID's please?--[[User:NinetyNineCent|NinetyNineCent]] 10:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The Unknown revolver that Jesse gets is a taurus ultra light .38 spcl snub nose.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:45, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Season 3 Episode 7 ==<br /> <br /> I was wonndering, shouldn't we include the guns that appear in the truk scene where &quot;the Cousins&quot; are dealing with the gun-dealer. I believe that there are several Ingrams a TEC-9 and a M4 that can be included. Just a suggestion.<br /> <br /> == Shotgun? ==<br /> <br /> The tow truck guy threatened Jesse with a shotgun when he found him sleeping in his RV, just noticed it wasn't on the page. [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]] 07:40, 6 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> :I'm on that, if I just get the code to do what it's supposed to... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:05, 14 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == DEA's assault rifles in the pilot ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone ID the weapons used by the DEA to raid the meth lab in the pilot episode? They don't look like M4s... But I may be wrong. -[[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 09:20, 9 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :They were too short to be M4s. Some of them had 10&quot; barrels (Mark 18 length), while others had the 6.5&quot; barrels (Olympic Arms K23B length). All had full-length rail forearms, most had iron sights, and different types of stocks. I suppose that we could just call them unknown compact AR-15 variants. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:38, 31 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == More pics on AMC's website ==<br /> [http://polls.amctv.com//chart/data/1737-question-1.html A gun quiz] on the official AMC website has some nice close-up images of the guns. [[User:Barnabas Hale|Barnabas Hale]] 17:15, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Unknown revolver ==<br /> <br /> I am absolutely assured that it is a Taurus. Notice a small round emblem in the bottom part of the handle. Besides, at a Taurus the special form of a front sight. I can't confidently confirm that it is model 85, but most likely it so. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 09:31, 22 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Combo's handgun? ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:BB_Combo.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> Help to identify- a quiz on AMC site tells it belonged to Combo.<br /> Beretta 92 FS Inox or Taurus PT 92 with pearl grips?<br /> <br /> :Beretta; it has the slide-mounted safety. Also, I'm guessing that that's the exact same gun which appeared in several episodes of ''[[Hawaii Five-0 (2010)]]'' and at least one episode of ''[[NCIS]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:58, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Sniper Rifle in S4E09 ==<br /> [[Image:BBS4E9rifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> I thought this should be on the main page. No clue what it is though. [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> == S05xE02 ==<br /> <br /> Help to identify...<br /> I think i see some Glock and a Beretta Cheetah .380 or 22 LR.<br /> <br /> Excellent, i was just thinking of adding this episode under the beretta cheetah section, as well as adding one for the glock (looks like your standard Glock 17)<br /> <br /> [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 00:15, 24 July 2012 (CEST)<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> == A Glock ==<br /> <br /> I don't remember whose Glock was it and in which episode was it (to get a better screenshot. These are from some YT mix). Also- which model is it exactly (I guess 17 or 19 gen 3)? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:08, 8 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> It was from Season 4 Episode 13 &quot;Face Off&quot;, one of Gus's unamed henchman (i recall him having a country accent) who threatens to break Jesse's arm. [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> Ok found it, unfortunately no better views of this handgun; main question remains, is it compact or standard size? Often have trouble to find it out. I think it might be compact, like model 19..? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:51, 9 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> :No, that's a full-sized Glock. Either a -17 or a -22. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:34, 9 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well shouldn't we list it as a 17 due to the fact the Glock 22 is sort of uncommon in movies and television? And also the identifying marks are illegible and we can't see the barrel [[User:Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == Todd's Pistol S05E05==<br /> <br /> You can see Todd's gun pretty well in this promo pic - http://i.imgur.com/OYPHB.jpg ID away! [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> I'm saying Smith &amp; Wesson 4566TSW (Tactical Smith &amp; Wesson) - [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == &quot;Ruger P95&quot; ==<br /> <br /> does anyone have any more shots of the gun that is currently labelled as a &quot;[[Ruger P95]]&quot; as there is absolutely no way that is what it is. I'm fairly sure it is a reversed shot of a [[Beretta Cougar]] of some sort (shot of full size Inox cougar below for comparison, note the design of the safety and the ejection port with distinctively recessed extractor which appears on the wrong side in this reversed shot), but need a wider view to work out which variant it is specifically. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:32, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah your right comparing pictures of the cougar and the p95 the p95's safety is too short to be the guns safety in the picture it matches either a Beretta cougar safety or some type Beretta safety.--[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] 18:00, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> [[File:8000 Cougar F Inox.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 8000 Cougar F Inox with walnut grips - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[File:BrBa - Taurus.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Gun in question]]<br /> <br /> <br /> ==S05E07==<br /> Help to identify guns from this episode.<br /> I'm only sure about AK rifle.<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> : I sure the revolver is S&amp;W 625 --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:34, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> : Shotgun looks like Mossberg 500, strange pistol in Mike's bag looks like Nambu or Lahti (pre WW2 Finnish pistol) but it is not Nambu or Lahti. And it is not Auto Mag AMP cause too slim barell. May be it is rare Kimball Arms Co &quot;Air Crew&quot; cal .30 Carbine? --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:43, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> ::The pistol is a [[Colt Woodsman]]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:16, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jesse gun ==<br /> <br /> AT season 5 episode 8 after Jesse find the bags of money he takes a gun off himself my bet is h&amp;k p7m13 but I'm not sure ... --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] ([[User talk:Blueboy1600|talk]]) 21:08, 7 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> [[File:BB S05E08 Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jesse's pistol on the floor. [[User:Playsonic2|Playsonic2]] ([[User talk:Playsonic2|talk]]) 11:10, 10 September 2012 (EDT)]]<br /> <br /> AMT Backup .380ACP--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 11:23, 10 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Glock, not HK Mark 23 ==<br /> <br /> In This screen shot, you can clearly see the Glock's takedown tabs.<br /> <br /> [[IMG:http://www.imfdb.org/images/e/e8/BreakBad-404-Mark23-2.jpg]]<br /> <br /> It's definitely a Glock and not a Mark 23.<br /> <br /> :That's not a &quot;takedown&quot; tab, it's the end of the the slide release pin. I think it's definitely a Mark 23, look at the shape of the sights and the way that the edges of the slide are beveled (rather than square, as on a Glock). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 15:07, 8 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I'm almost sure its still an USP and not Glock. 1) Slide shape doesn't match 2) Trigger guard shape doesn't match too. So, I'd say its a HK gun. [[User:pawelm|pawelm]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Breaking_Bad&diff=611364 2012-09-09T20:53:21Z

<p>Flexo: /* S05E07 */</p> <hr /> <div>Hank's Glock is .40 cal as stated in the first episode so its a Glock 22 not a 17. Also here are the other guns from the first season: S&amp;W4506, Ruger GP100, HK416, and in the first episode of season two jesse buys a snub nosed 5 shot revolver.<br /> <br /> == M4 ==<br /> <br /> The M4 claimed to be used by Tuco seems to be a CAR-15<br /> <br /> Yeah I don't know what the make and model of the snub nosed revolver is yet. Thanks for the tip on the Glock situation, though.<br /> <br /> ==Negro Y Azul==<br /> I'll have the caps for it by tonight [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencappin' ==<br /> <br /> I going to screencap this series when the DVDs come out.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencaps ==<br /> <br /> I'm not a member of IMFDB, but how would I go about providing screens? I have the first season on DVD and on the day of the second season's release, I plan on purchasing it.<br /> <br /> You can use VLC player to capture screenshots. It will capture them as PNG files, so you'll have to use a Batch image converter to convert to JPG before you upload your shots. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You can set up the VLC player so it will capture them as jpg. Go to Tools, Preferences, then video and change the format from png to jpg.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, though my issue wasn't so much with getting the screencaps, as it was with uploading them. I '''have''' to be a member to upload files. It isn't a problem, I just didn't want to join with plans to only contribute to one page.<br /> <br /> == Need Help ==<br /> <br /> After going through both the first and second season, I do believe I have captured every instance of a gun on screen. I have a lot of screenshots of guns that aren't even mentioned or pointed out on the page. I don't know much about guns myself, so if I posted these extra images here, could I get some assistance with ID's please?--[[User:NinetyNineCent|NinetyNineCent]] 10:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The Unknown revolver that Jesse gets is a taurus ultra light .38 spcl snub nose.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:45, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Season 3 Episode 7 ==<br /> <br /> I was wonndering, shouldn't we include the guns that appear in the truk scene where &quot;the Cousins&quot; are dealing with the gun-dealer. I believe that there are several Ingrams a TEC-9 and a M4 that can be included. Just a suggestion.<br /> <br /> == Shotgun? ==<br /> <br /> The tow truck guy threatened Jesse with a shotgun when he found him sleeping in his RV, just noticed it wasn't on the page. [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]] 07:40, 6 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> :I'm on that, if I just get the code to do what it's supposed to... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:05, 14 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == DEA's assault rifles in the pilot ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone ID the weapons used by the DEA to raid the meth lab in the pilot episode? They don't look like M4s... But I may be wrong. -[[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 09:20, 9 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :They were too short to be M4s. Some of them had 10&quot; barrels (Mark 18 length), while others had the 6.5&quot; barrels (Olympic Arms K23B length). All had full-length rail forearms, most had iron sights, and different types of stocks. I suppose that we could just call them unknown compact AR-15 variants. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:38, 31 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == More pics on AMC's website ==<br /> [http://polls.amctv.com//chart/data/1737-question-1.html A gun quiz] on the official AMC website has some nice close-up images of the guns. [[User:Barnabas Hale|Barnabas Hale]] 17:15, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Unknown revolver ==<br /> <br /> I am absolutely assured that it is a Taurus. Notice a small round emblem in the bottom part of the handle. Besides, at a Taurus the special form of a front sight. I can't confidently confirm that it is model 85, but most likely it so. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 09:31, 22 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Combo's handgun? ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:BB_Combo.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> Help to identify- a quiz on AMC site tells it belonged to Combo.<br /> Beretta 92 FS Inox or Taurus PT 92 with pearl grips?<br /> <br /> :Beretta; it has the slide-mounted safety. Also, I'm guessing that that's the exact same gun which appeared in several episodes of ''[[Hawaii Five-0 (2010)]]'' and at least one episode of ''[[NCIS]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:58, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Sniper Rifle in S4E09 ==<br /> [[Image:BBS4E9rifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> I thought this should be on the main page. No clue what it is though. [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> == S05xE02 ==<br /> <br /> Help to identify...<br /> I think i see some Glock and a Beretta Cheetah .380 or 22 LR.<br /> <br /> Excellent, i was just thinking of adding this episode under the beretta cheetah section, as well as adding one for the glock (looks like your standard Glock 17)<br /> <br /> [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 00:15, 24 July 2012 (CEST)<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> == A Glock ==<br /> <br /> I don't remember whose Glock was it and in which episode was it (to get a better screenshot. These are from some YT mix). Also- which model is it exactly (I guess 17 or 19 gen 3)? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:08, 8 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> It was from Season 4 Episode 13 &quot;Face Off&quot;, one of Gus's unamed henchman (i recall him having a country accent) who threatens to break Jesse's arm. [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> Ok found it, unfortunately no better views of this handgun; main question remains, is it compact or standard size? Often have trouble to find it out. I think it might be compact, like model 19..? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:51, 9 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> :No, that's a full-sized Glock. Either a -17 or a -22. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:34, 9 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well shouldn't we list it as a 17 due to the fact the Glock 22 is sort of uncommon in movies and television? And also the identifying marks are illegible and we can't see the barrel [[User:Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == Todd's Pistol S05E05==<br /> <br /> You can see Todd's gun pretty well in this promo pic - http://i.imgur.com/OYPHB.jpg ID away! [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> I'm saying Smith &amp; Wesson 4566TSW (Tactical Smith &amp; Wesson) - [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == &quot;Ruger P95&quot; ==<br /> <br /> does anyone have any more shots of the gun that is currently labelled as a &quot;[[Ruger P95]]&quot; as there is absolutely no way that is what it is. I'm fairly sure it is a reversed shot of a [[Beretta Cougar]] of some sort (shot of full size Inox cougar below for comparison, note the design of the safety and the ejection port with distinctively recessed extractor which appears on the wrong side in this reversed shot), but need a wider view to work out which variant it is specifically. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:32, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah your right comparing pictures of the cougar and the p95 the p95's safety is too short to be the guns safety in the picture it matches either a Beretta cougar safety or some type Beretta safety.--[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] 18:00, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> [[File:8000 Cougar F Inox.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 8000 Cougar F Inox with walnut grips - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[File:BrBa - Taurus.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Gun in question]]<br /> <br /> <br /> ==S05E07==<br /> Help to identify guns from this episode.<br /> I'm only sure about AK rifle.<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> : I sure the revolver is S&amp;W 625 --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:34, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> : Shotgun looks like Mossberg 500, strange pistol in Mike's bag looks like Nambu or Lahti (pre WW2 Finnish pistol) but it is not Nambu or Lahti. And it is not Auto Mag AMP cause too slim barell. May be it is rare Kimball Arms Co &quot;Air Crew&quot; cal .30 Carbine? --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:43, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jesse gun ==<br /> <br /> AT season 5 episode 8 after Jesse find the bags of money he takes a gun off himself my bet is h&amp;k p7m13 but I'm not sure ... --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] ([[User talk:Blueboy1600|talk]]) 21:08, 7 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Glock, not HK Mark 23 ==<br /> <br /> In This screen shot, you can clearly see the Glock's takedown tabs.<br /> <br /> [[IMG:http://www.imfdb.org/images/e/e8/BreakBad-404-Mark23-2.jpg]]<br /> <br /> It's definitely a Glock and not a Mark 23.<br /> <br /> :That's not a &quot;takedown&quot; tab, it's the end of the the slide release pin. I think it's definitely a Mark 23, look at the shape of the sights and the way that the edges of the slide are beveled (rather than square, as on a Glock). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 15:07, 8 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I'm almost sure its still an USP and not Glock. 1) Slide shape doesn't match 2) Trigger guard shape doesn't match too. So, I'd say its a HK gun. [[User:pawelm|pawelm]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Breaking_Bad&diff=611358 2012-09-09T20:48:17Z

<p>Flexo: /* S05E07 */</p> <hr /> <div>Hank's Glock is .40 cal as stated in the first episode so its a Glock 22 not a 17. Also here are the other guns from the first season: S&amp;W4506, Ruger GP100, HK416, and in the first episode of season two jesse buys a snub nosed 5 shot revolver.<br /> <br /> == M4 ==<br /> <br /> The M4 claimed to be used by Tuco seems to be a CAR-15<br /> <br /> Yeah I don't know what the make and model of the snub nosed revolver is yet. Thanks for the tip on the Glock situation, though.<br /> <br /> ==Negro Y Azul==<br /> I'll have the caps for it by tonight [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencappin' ==<br /> <br /> I going to screencap this series when the DVDs come out.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencaps ==<br /> <br /> I'm not a member of IMFDB, but how would I go about providing screens? I have the first season on DVD and on the day of the second season's release, I plan on purchasing it.<br /> <br /> You can use VLC player to capture screenshots. It will capture them as PNG files, so you'll have to use a Batch image converter to convert to JPG before you upload your shots. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You can set up the VLC player so it will capture them as jpg. Go to Tools, Preferences, then video and change the format from png to jpg.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, though my issue wasn't so much with getting the screencaps, as it was with uploading them. I '''have''' to be a member to upload files. It isn't a problem, I just didn't want to join with plans to only contribute to one page.<br /> <br /> == Need Help ==<br /> <br /> After going through both the first and second season, I do believe I have captured every instance of a gun on screen. I have a lot of screenshots of guns that aren't even mentioned or pointed out on the page. I don't know much about guns myself, so if I posted these extra images here, could I get some assistance with ID's please?--[[User:NinetyNineCent|NinetyNineCent]] 10:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The Unknown revolver that Jesse gets is a taurus ultra light .38 spcl snub nose.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:45, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Season 3 Episode 7 ==<br /> <br /> I was wonndering, shouldn't we include the guns that appear in the truk scene where &quot;the Cousins&quot; are dealing with the gun-dealer. I believe that there are several Ingrams a TEC-9 and a M4 that can be included. Just a suggestion.<br /> <br /> == Shotgun? ==<br /> <br /> The tow truck guy threatened Jesse with a shotgun when he found him sleeping in his RV, just noticed it wasn't on the page. [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]] 07:40, 6 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> :I'm on that, if I just get the code to do what it's supposed to... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:05, 14 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == DEA's assault rifles in the pilot ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone ID the weapons used by the DEA to raid the meth lab in the pilot episode? They don't look like M4s... But I may be wrong. -[[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 09:20, 9 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :They were too short to be M4s. Some of them had 10&quot; barrels (Mark 18 length), while others had the 6.5&quot; barrels (Olympic Arms K23B length). All had full-length rail forearms, most had iron sights, and different types of stocks. I suppose that we could just call them unknown compact AR-15 variants. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:38, 31 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == More pics on AMC's website ==<br /> [http://polls.amctv.com//chart/data/1737-question-1.html A gun quiz] on the official AMC website has some nice close-up images of the guns. [[User:Barnabas Hale|Barnabas Hale]] 17:15, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Unknown revolver ==<br /> <br /> I am absolutely assured that it is a Taurus. Notice a small round emblem in the bottom part of the handle. Besides, at a Taurus the special form of a front sight. I can't confidently confirm that it is model 85, but most likely it so. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 09:31, 22 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Combo's handgun? ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:BB_Combo.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> Help to identify- a quiz on AMC site tells it belonged to Combo.<br /> Beretta 92 FS Inox or Taurus PT 92 with pearl grips?<br /> <br /> :Beretta; it has the slide-mounted safety. Also, I'm guessing that that's the exact same gun which appeared in several episodes of ''[[Hawaii Five-0 (2010)]]'' and at least one episode of ''[[NCIS]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:58, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Sniper Rifle in S4E09 ==<br /> [[Image:BBS4E9rifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> I thought this should be on the main page. No clue what it is though. [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> == S05xE02 ==<br /> <br /> Help to identify...<br /> I think i see some Glock and a Beretta Cheetah .380 or 22 LR.<br /> <br /> Excellent, i was just thinking of adding this episode under the beretta cheetah section, as well as adding one for the glock (looks like your standard Glock 17)<br /> <br /> [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 00:15, 24 July 2012 (CEST)<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> == A Glock ==<br /> <br /> I don't remember whose Glock was it and in which episode was it (to get a better screenshot. These are from some YT mix). Also- which model is it exactly (I guess 17 or 19 gen 3)? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:08, 8 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> It was from Season 4 Episode 13 &quot;Face Off&quot;, one of Gus's unamed henchman (i recall him having a country accent) who threatens to break Jesse's arm. [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> Ok found it, unfortunately no better views of this handgun; main question remains, is it compact or standard size? Often have trouble to find it out. I think it might be compact, like model 19..? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:51, 9 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> :No, that's a full-sized Glock. Either a -17 or a -22. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:34, 9 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well shouldn't we list it as a 17 due to the fact the Glock 22 is sort of uncommon in movies and television? And also the identifying marks are illegible and we can't see the barrel [[User:Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == Todd's Pistol S05E05==<br /> <br /> You can see Todd's gun pretty well in this promo pic - http://i.imgur.com/OYPHB.jpg ID away! [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> I'm saying Smith &amp; Wesson 4566TSW (Tactical Smith &amp; Wesson) - [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == &quot;Ruger P95&quot; ==<br /> <br /> does anyone have any more shots of the gun that is currently labelled as a &quot;[[Ruger P95]]&quot; as there is absolutely no way that is what it is. I'm fairly sure it is a reversed shot of a [[Beretta Cougar]] of some sort (shot of full size Inox cougar below for comparison, note the design of the safety and the ejection port with distinctively recessed extractor which appears on the wrong side in this reversed shot), but need a wider view to work out which variant it is specifically. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:32, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah your right comparing pictures of the cougar and the p95 the p95's safety is too short to be the guns safety in the picture it matches either a Beretta cougar safety or some type Beretta safety.--[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] 18:00, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> [[File:8000 Cougar F Inox.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 8000 Cougar F Inox with walnut grips - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[File:BrBa - Taurus.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Gun in question]]<br /> <br /> <br /> ==S05E07==<br /> Help to identify guns from this episode.<br /> I'm only sure about AK rifle.<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> : I sure the revolver is S&amp;W 625 --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:34, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> : Shotgun looks like Mossberg 500, strange pistol in Mike's bag looks like Nambu or Lahti (pre WW2 Finnish pistol) but it is not Nambu or Lahti. May be it is Kimball Arms Co &quot;Air Crew&quot; cal .30Carbine or Auto Mag AMP ? --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:43, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jesse gun ==<br /> <br /> AT season 5 episode 8 after Jesse find the bags of money he takes a gun off himself my bet is h&amp;k p7m13 but I'm not sure ... --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] ([[User talk:Blueboy1600|talk]]) 21:08, 7 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Glock, not HK Mark 23 ==<br /> <br /> In This screen shot, you can clearly see the Glock's takedown tabs.<br /> <br /> [[IMG:http://www.imfdb.org/images/e/e8/BreakBad-404-Mark23-2.jpg]]<br /> <br /> It's definitely a Glock and not a Mark 23.<br /> <br /> :That's not a &quot;takedown&quot; tab, it's the end of the the slide release pin. I think it's definitely a Mark 23, look at the shape of the sights and the way that the edges of the slide are beveled (rather than square, as on a Glock). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 15:07, 8 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I'm almost sure its still an USP and not Glock. 1) Slide shape doesn't match 2) Trigger guard shape doesn't match too. So, I'd say its a HK gun. [[User:pawelm|pawelm]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Breaking_Bad&diff=611350 2012-09-09T20:43:28Z

<p>Flexo: /* S05E07 */</p> <hr /> <div>Hank's Glock is .40 cal as stated in the first episode so its a Glock 22 not a 17. Also here are the other guns from the first season: S&amp;W4506, Ruger GP100, HK416, and in the first episode of season two jesse buys a snub nosed 5 shot revolver.<br /> <br /> == M4 ==<br /> <br /> The M4 claimed to be used by Tuco seems to be a CAR-15<br /> <br /> Yeah I don't know what the make and model of the snub nosed revolver is yet. Thanks for the tip on the Glock situation, though.<br /> <br /> ==Negro Y Azul==<br /> I'll have the caps for it by tonight [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencappin' ==<br /> <br /> I going to screencap this series when the DVDs come out.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencaps ==<br /> <br /> I'm not a member of IMFDB, but how would I go about providing screens? I have the first season on DVD and on the day of the second season's release, I plan on purchasing it.<br /> <br /> You can use VLC player to capture screenshots. It will capture them as PNG files, so you'll have to use a Batch image converter to convert to JPG before you upload your shots. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You can set up the VLC player so it will capture them as jpg. Go to Tools, Preferences, then video and change the format from png to jpg.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, though my issue wasn't so much with getting the screencaps, as it was with uploading them. I '''have''' to be a member to upload files. It isn't a problem, I just didn't want to join with plans to only contribute to one page.<br /> <br /> == Need Help ==<br /> <br /> After going through both the first and second season, I do believe I have captured every instance of a gun on screen. I have a lot of screenshots of guns that aren't even mentioned or pointed out on the page. I don't know much about guns myself, so if I posted these extra images here, could I get some assistance with ID's please?--[[User:NinetyNineCent|NinetyNineCent]] 10:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The Unknown revolver that Jesse gets is a taurus ultra light .38 spcl snub nose.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:45, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Season 3 Episode 7 ==<br /> <br /> I was wonndering, shouldn't we include the guns that appear in the truk scene where &quot;the Cousins&quot; are dealing with the gun-dealer. I believe that there are several Ingrams a TEC-9 and a M4 that can be included. Just a suggestion.<br /> <br /> == Shotgun? ==<br /> <br /> The tow truck guy threatened Jesse with a shotgun when he found him sleeping in his RV, just noticed it wasn't on the page. [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]] 07:40, 6 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> :I'm on that, if I just get the code to do what it's supposed to... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:05, 14 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == DEA's assault rifles in the pilot ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone ID the weapons used by the DEA to raid the meth lab in the pilot episode? They don't look like M4s... But I may be wrong. -[[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 09:20, 9 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :They were too short to be M4s. Some of them had 10&quot; barrels (Mark 18 length), while others had the 6.5&quot; barrels (Olympic Arms K23B length). All had full-length rail forearms, most had iron sights, and different types of stocks. I suppose that we could just call them unknown compact AR-15 variants. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:38, 31 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == More pics on AMC's website ==<br /> [http://polls.amctv.com//chart/data/1737-question-1.html A gun quiz] on the official AMC website has some nice close-up images of the guns. [[User:Barnabas Hale|Barnabas Hale]] 17:15, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Unknown revolver ==<br /> <br /> I am absolutely assured that it is a Taurus. Notice a small round emblem in the bottom part of the handle. Besides, at a Taurus the special form of a front sight. I can't confidently confirm that it is model 85, but most likely it so. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 09:31, 22 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Combo's handgun? ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:BB_Combo.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> Help to identify- a quiz on AMC site tells it belonged to Combo.<br /> Beretta 92 FS Inox or Taurus PT 92 with pearl grips?<br /> <br /> :Beretta; it has the slide-mounted safety. Also, I'm guessing that that's the exact same gun which appeared in several episodes of ''[[Hawaii Five-0 (2010)]]'' and at least one episode of ''[[NCIS]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:58, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Sniper Rifle in S4E09 ==<br /> [[Image:BBS4E9rifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> I thought this should be on the main page. No clue what it is though. [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> == S05xE02 ==<br /> <br /> Help to identify...<br /> I think i see some Glock and a Beretta Cheetah .380 or 22 LR.<br /> <br /> Excellent, i was just thinking of adding this episode under the beretta cheetah section, as well as adding one for the glock (looks like your standard Glock 17)<br /> <br /> [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 00:15, 24 July 2012 (CEST)<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> == A Glock ==<br /> <br /> I don't remember whose Glock was it and in which episode was it (to get a better screenshot. These are from some YT mix). Also- which model is it exactly (I guess 17 or 19 gen 3)? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:08, 8 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> It was from Season 4 Episode 13 &quot;Face Off&quot;, one of Gus's unamed henchman (i recall him having a country accent) who threatens to break Jesse's arm. [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> Ok found it, unfortunately no better views of this handgun; main question remains, is it compact or standard size? Often have trouble to find it out. I think it might be compact, like model 19..? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:51, 9 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> :No, that's a full-sized Glock. Either a -17 or a -22. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:34, 9 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well shouldn't we list it as a 17 due to the fact the Glock 22 is sort of uncommon in movies and television? And also the identifying marks are illegible and we can't see the barrel [[User:Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == Todd's Pistol S05E05==<br /> <br /> You can see Todd's gun pretty well in this promo pic - http://i.imgur.com/OYPHB.jpg ID away! [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> I'm saying Smith &amp; Wesson 4566TSW (Tactical Smith &amp; Wesson) - [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == &quot;Ruger P95&quot; ==<br /> <br /> does anyone have any more shots of the gun that is currently labelled as a &quot;[[Ruger P95]]&quot; as there is absolutely no way that is what it is. I'm fairly sure it is a reversed shot of a [[Beretta Cougar]] of some sort (shot of full size Inox cougar below for comparison, note the design of the safety and the ejection port with distinctively recessed extractor which appears on the wrong side in this reversed shot), but need a wider view to work out which variant it is specifically. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:32, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah your right comparing pictures of the cougar and the p95 the p95's safety is too short to be the guns safety in the picture it matches either a Beretta cougar safety or some type Beretta safety.--[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] 18:00, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> [[File:8000 Cougar F Inox.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 8000 Cougar F Inox with walnut grips - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[File:BrBa - Taurus.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Gun in question]]<br /> <br /> <br /> ==S05E07==<br /> Help to identify guns from this episode.<br /> I'm only sure about AK rifle.<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> : I sure the revolver is S&amp;W 625 --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:34, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> : Shotgun looks like Mossberg 500, strange pistol in Mike's bag looks like Nambu or Lahti (pre WW2 Finnish pistol) but it is not Nambu or Lahti--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:43, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jesse gun ==<br /> <br /> AT season 5 episode 8 after Jesse find the bags of money he takes a gun off himself my bet is h&amp;k p7m13 but I'm not sure ... --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] ([[User talk:Blueboy1600|talk]]) 21:08, 7 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Glock, not HK Mark 23 ==<br /> <br /> In This screen shot, you can clearly see the Glock's takedown tabs.<br /> <br /> [[IMG:http://www.imfdb.org/images/e/e8/BreakBad-404-Mark23-2.jpg]]<br /> <br /> It's definitely a Glock and not a Mark 23.<br /> <br /> :That's not a &quot;takedown&quot; tab, it's the end of the the slide release pin. I think it's definitely a Mark 23, look at the shape of the sights and the way that the edges of the slide are beveled (rather than square, as on a Glock). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 15:07, 8 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I'm almost sure its still an USP and not Glock. 1) Slide shape doesn't match 2) Trigger guard shape doesn't match too. So, I'd say its a HK gun. [[User:pawelm|pawelm]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Breaking_Bad&diff=611345 2012-09-09T20:36:35Z

<p>Flexo: /* S05E07 */</p> <hr /> <div>Hank's Glock is .40 cal as stated in the first episode so its a Glock 22 not a 17. Also here are the other guns from the first season: S&amp;W4506, Ruger GP100, HK416, and in the first episode of season two jesse buys a snub nosed 5 shot revolver.<br /> <br /> == M4 ==<br /> <br /> The M4 claimed to be used by Tuco seems to be a CAR-15<br /> <br /> Yeah I don't know what the make and model of the snub nosed revolver is yet. Thanks for the tip on the Glock situation, though.<br /> <br /> ==Negro Y Azul==<br /> I'll have the caps for it by tonight [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencappin' ==<br /> <br /> I going to screencap this series when the DVDs come out.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencaps ==<br /> <br /> I'm not a member of IMFDB, but how would I go about providing screens? I have the first season on DVD and on the day of the second season's release, I plan on purchasing it.<br /> <br /> You can use VLC player to capture screenshots. It will capture them as PNG files, so you'll have to use a Batch image converter to convert to JPG before you upload your shots. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You can set up the VLC player so it will capture them as jpg. Go to Tools, Preferences, then video and change the format from png to jpg.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, though my issue wasn't so much with getting the screencaps, as it was with uploading them. I '''have''' to be a member to upload files. It isn't a problem, I just didn't want to join with plans to only contribute to one page.<br /> <br /> == Need Help ==<br /> <br /> After going through both the first and second season, I do believe I have captured every instance of a gun on screen. I have a lot of screenshots of guns that aren't even mentioned or pointed out on the page. I don't know much about guns myself, so if I posted these extra images here, could I get some assistance with ID's please?--[[User:NinetyNineCent|NinetyNineCent]] 10:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The Unknown revolver that Jesse gets is a taurus ultra light .38 spcl snub nose.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:45, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Season 3 Episode 7 ==<br /> <br /> I was wonndering, shouldn't we include the guns that appear in the truk scene where &quot;the Cousins&quot; are dealing with the gun-dealer. I believe that there are several Ingrams a TEC-9 and a M4 that can be included. Just a suggestion.<br /> <br /> == Shotgun? ==<br /> <br /> The tow truck guy threatened Jesse with a shotgun when he found him sleeping in his RV, just noticed it wasn't on the page. [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]] 07:40, 6 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> :I'm on that, if I just get the code to do what it's supposed to... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:05, 14 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == DEA's assault rifles in the pilot ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone ID the weapons used by the DEA to raid the meth lab in the pilot episode? They don't look like M4s... But I may be wrong. -[[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 09:20, 9 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :They were too short to be M4s. Some of them had 10&quot; barrels (Mark 18 length), while others had the 6.5&quot; barrels (Olympic Arms K23B length). All had full-length rail forearms, most had iron sights, and different types of stocks. I suppose that we could just call them unknown compact AR-15 variants. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:38, 31 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == More pics on AMC's website ==<br /> [http://polls.amctv.com//chart/data/1737-question-1.html A gun quiz] on the official AMC website has some nice close-up images of the guns. [[User:Barnabas Hale|Barnabas Hale]] 17:15, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Unknown revolver ==<br /> <br /> I am absolutely assured that it is a Taurus. Notice a small round emblem in the bottom part of the handle. Besides, at a Taurus the special form of a front sight. I can't confidently confirm that it is model 85, but most likely it so. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 09:31, 22 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Combo's handgun? ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:BB_Combo.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> Help to identify- a quiz on AMC site tells it belonged to Combo.<br /> Beretta 92 FS Inox or Taurus PT 92 with pearl grips?<br /> <br /> :Beretta; it has the slide-mounted safety. Also, I'm guessing that that's the exact same gun which appeared in several episodes of ''[[Hawaii Five-0 (2010)]]'' and at least one episode of ''[[NCIS]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:58, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Sniper Rifle in S4E09 ==<br /> [[Image:BBS4E9rifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> I thought this should be on the main page. No clue what it is though. [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> == S05xE02 ==<br /> <br /> Help to identify...<br /> I think i see some Glock and a Beretta Cheetah .380 or 22 LR.<br /> <br /> Excellent, i was just thinking of adding this episode under the beretta cheetah section, as well as adding one for the glock (looks like your standard Glock 17)<br /> <br /> [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 00:15, 24 July 2012 (CEST)<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> == A Glock ==<br /> <br /> I don't remember whose Glock was it and in which episode was it (to get a better screenshot. These are from some YT mix). Also- which model is it exactly (I guess 17 or 19 gen 3)? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:08, 8 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> It was from Season 4 Episode 13 &quot;Face Off&quot;, one of Gus's unamed henchman (i recall him having a country accent) who threatens to break Jesse's arm. [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> Ok found it, unfortunately no better views of this handgun; main question remains, is it compact or standard size? Often have trouble to find it out. I think it might be compact, like model 19..? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:51, 9 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> :No, that's a full-sized Glock. Either a -17 or a -22. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:34, 9 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well shouldn't we list it as a 17 due to the fact the Glock 22 is sort of uncommon in movies and television? And also the identifying marks are illegible and we can't see the barrel [[User:Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == Todd's Pistol S05E05==<br /> <br /> You can see Todd's gun pretty well in this promo pic - http://i.imgur.com/OYPHB.jpg ID away! [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> I'm saying Smith &amp; Wesson 4566TSW (Tactical Smith &amp; Wesson) - [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == &quot;Ruger P95&quot; ==<br /> <br /> does anyone have any more shots of the gun that is currently labelled as a &quot;[[Ruger P95]]&quot; as there is absolutely no way that is what it is. I'm fairly sure it is a reversed shot of a [[Beretta Cougar]] of some sort (shot of full size Inox cougar below for comparison, note the design of the safety and the ejection port with distinctively recessed extractor which appears on the wrong side in this reversed shot), but need a wider view to work out which variant it is specifically. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:32, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah your right comparing pictures of the cougar and the p95 the p95's safety is too short to be the guns safety in the picture it matches either a Beretta cougar safety or some type Beretta safety.--[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] 18:00, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> [[File:8000 Cougar F Inox.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 8000 Cougar F Inox with walnut grips - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[File:BrBa - Taurus.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Gun in question]]<br /> <br /> <br /> ==S05E07==<br /> Help to identify guns from this episode.<br /> I'm only sure about AK rifle.<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> : I sure the revolver is S&amp;W 625 --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:34, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jesse gun ==<br /> <br /> AT season 5 episode 8 after Jesse find the bags of money he takes a gun off himself my bet is h&amp;k p7m13 but I'm not sure ... --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] ([[User talk:Blueboy1600|talk]]) 21:08, 7 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Glock, not HK Mark 23 ==<br /> <br /> In This screen shot, you can clearly see the Glock's takedown tabs.<br /> <br /> [[IMG:http://www.imfdb.org/images/e/e8/BreakBad-404-Mark23-2.jpg]]<br /> <br /> It's definitely a Glock and not a Mark 23.<br /> <br /> :That's not a &quot;takedown&quot; tab, it's the end of the the slide release pin. I think it's definitely a Mark 23, look at the shape of the sights and the way that the edges of the slide are beveled (rather than square, as on a Glock). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 15:07, 8 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I'm almost sure its still an USP and not Glock. 1) Slide shape doesn't match 2) Trigger guard shape doesn't match too. So, I'd say its a HK gun. [[User:pawelm|pawelm]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Breaking_Bad&diff=611341 2012-09-09T20:34:42Z

<p>Flexo: /* S05E07 */</p> <hr /> <div>Hank's Glock is .40 cal as stated in the first episode so its a Glock 22 not a 17. Also here are the other guns from the first season: S&amp;W4506, Ruger GP100, HK416, and in the first episode of season two jesse buys a snub nosed 5 shot revolver.<br /> <br /> == M4 ==<br /> <br /> The M4 claimed to be used by Tuco seems to be a CAR-15<br /> <br /> Yeah I don't know what the make and model of the snub nosed revolver is yet. Thanks for the tip on the Glock situation, though.<br /> <br /> ==Negro Y Azul==<br /> I'll have the caps for it by tonight [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencappin' ==<br /> <br /> I going to screencap this series when the DVDs come out.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screencaps ==<br /> <br /> I'm not a member of IMFDB, but how would I go about providing screens? I have the first season on DVD and on the day of the second season's release, I plan on purchasing it.<br /> <br /> You can use VLC player to capture screenshots. It will capture them as PNG files, so you'll have to use a Batch image converter to convert to JPG before you upload your shots. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You can set up the VLC player so it will capture them as jpg. Go to Tools, Preferences, then video and change the format from png to jpg.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks, though my issue wasn't so much with getting the screencaps, as it was with uploading them. I '''have''' to be a member to upload files. It isn't a problem, I just didn't want to join with plans to only contribute to one page.<br /> <br /> == Need Help ==<br /> <br /> After going through both the first and second season, I do believe I have captured every instance of a gun on screen. I have a lot of screenshots of guns that aren't even mentioned or pointed out on the page. I don't know much about guns myself, so if I posted these extra images here, could I get some assistance with ID's please?--[[User:NinetyNineCent|NinetyNineCent]] 10:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The Unknown revolver that Jesse gets is a taurus ultra light .38 spcl snub nose.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:45, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Season 3 Episode 7 ==<br /> <br /> I was wonndering, shouldn't we include the guns that appear in the truk scene where &quot;the Cousins&quot; are dealing with the gun-dealer. I believe that there are several Ingrams a TEC-9 and a M4 that can be included. Just a suggestion.<br /> <br /> == Shotgun? ==<br /> <br /> The tow truck guy threatened Jesse with a shotgun when he found him sleeping in his RV, just noticed it wasn't on the page. [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]] 07:40, 6 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> :I'm on that, if I just get the code to do what it's supposed to... --[[User:Euromutt|Euromutt]] 07:05, 14 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == DEA's assault rifles in the pilot ==<br /> <br /> Can anyone ID the weapons used by the DEA to raid the meth lab in the pilot episode? They don't look like M4s... But I may be wrong. -[[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 09:20, 9 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :They were too short to be M4s. Some of them had 10&quot; barrels (Mark 18 length), while others had the 6.5&quot; barrels (Olympic Arms K23B length). All had full-length rail forearms, most had iron sights, and different types of stocks. I suppose that we could just call them unknown compact AR-15 variants. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:38, 31 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == More pics on AMC's website ==<br /> [http://polls.amctv.com//chart/data/1737-question-1.html A gun quiz] on the official AMC website has some nice close-up images of the guns. [[User:Barnabas Hale|Barnabas Hale]] 17:15, 21 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Unknown revolver ==<br /> <br /> I am absolutely assured that it is a Taurus. Notice a small round emblem in the bottom part of the handle. Besides, at a Taurus the special form of a front sight. I can't confidently confirm that it is model 85, but most likely it so. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 09:31, 22 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Combo's handgun? ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:BB_Combo.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> Help to identify- a quiz on AMC site tells it belonged to Combo.<br /> Beretta 92 FS Inox or Taurus PT 92 with pearl grips?<br /> <br /> :Beretta; it has the slide-mounted safety. Also, I'm guessing that that's the exact same gun which appeared in several episodes of ''[[Hawaii Five-0 (2010)]]'' and at least one episode of ''[[NCIS]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:58, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Sniper Rifle in S4E09 ==<br /> [[Image:BBS4E9rifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br /> I thought this should be on the main page. No clue what it is though. [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> == S05xE02 ==<br /> <br /> Help to identify...<br /> I think i see some Glock and a Beretta Cheetah .380 or 22 LR.<br /> <br /> Excellent, i was just thinking of adding this episode under the beretta cheetah section, as well as adding one for the glock (looks like your standard Glock 17)<br /> <br /> [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 00:15, 24 July 2012 (CEST)<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad_S05E02_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> == A Glock ==<br /> <br /> I don't remember whose Glock was it and in which episode was it (to get a better screenshot. These are from some YT mix). Also- which model is it exactly (I guess 17 or 19 gen 3)? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:08, 8 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> It was from Season 4 Episode 13 &quot;Face Off&quot;, one of Gus's unamed henchman (i recall him having a country accent) who threatens to break Jesse's arm. [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> Ok found it, unfortunately no better views of this handgun; main question remains, is it compact or standard size? Often have trouble to find it out. I think it might be compact, like model 19..? [[User:Pawelm|Pawelm]] 20:51, 9 August 2012 (CEST)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_Glock_temp2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> :No, that's a full-sized Glock. Either a -17 or a -22. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:34, 9 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well shouldn't we list it as a 17 due to the fact the Glock 22 is sort of uncommon in movies and television? And also the identifying marks are illegible and we can't see the barrel [[User:Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == Todd's Pistol S05E05==<br /> <br /> You can see Todd's gun pretty well in this promo pic - http://i.imgur.com/OYPHB.jpg ID away! [[User:JLDub|JLDub]]<br /> <br /> I'm saying Smith &amp; Wesson 4566TSW (Tactical Smith &amp; Wesson) - [[User: Czar|Czar]]<br /> <br /> == &quot;Ruger P95&quot; ==<br /> <br /> does anyone have any more shots of the gun that is currently labelled as a &quot;[[Ruger P95]]&quot; as there is absolutely no way that is what it is. I'm fairly sure it is a reversed shot of a [[Beretta Cougar]] of some sort (shot of full size Inox cougar below for comparison, note the design of the safety and the ejection port with distinctively recessed extractor which appears on the wrong side in this reversed shot), but need a wider view to work out which variant it is specifically. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:32, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah your right comparing pictures of the cougar and the p95 the p95's safety is too short to be the guns safety in the picture it matches either a Beretta cougar safety or some type Beretta safety.--[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] 18:00, 20 August 2012 (CDT)<br /> [[File:8000 Cougar F Inox.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 8000 Cougar F Inox with walnut grips - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[File:BrBa - Taurus.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Gun in question]]<br /> <br /> <br /> ==S05E07==<br /> Help to identify guns from this episode.<br /> I'm only sure about AK rifle.<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E07_7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> : The revolver I belive is S&amp;W 625 --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] ([[User talk:Flexo|talk]]) 16:34, 9 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Jesse gun ==<br /> <br /> AT season 5 episode 8 after Jesse find the bags of money he takes a gun off himself my bet is h&amp;k p7m13 but I'm not sure ... --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] ([[User talk:Blueboy1600|talk]]) 21:08, 7 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Glock, not HK Mark 23 ==<br /> <br /> In This screen shot, you can clearly see the Glock's takedown tabs.<br /> <br /> [[IMG:http://www.imfdb.org/images/e/e8/BreakBad-404-Mark23-2.jpg]]<br /> <br /> It's definitely a Glock and not a Mark 23.<br /> <br /> :That's not a &quot;takedown&quot; tab, it's the end of the the slide release pin. I think it's definitely a Mark 23, look at the shape of the sights and the way that the edges of the slide are beveled (rather than square, as on a Glock). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 15:07, 8 September 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I'm almost sure its still an USP and not Glock. 1) Slide shape doesn't match 2) Trigger guard shape doesn't match too. So, I'd say its a HK gun. [[User:pawelm|pawelm]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Breaking_Bad&diff=599424 2012-08-09T09:50:09Z

<p>Flexo: /* Taurus Model 85 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{ongoing}}<br /> [[Image:BreakingBadPoster.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|[[Breaking Bad]] (2008-Present) Television Series on AMC Network]]<br /> <br /> <br /> The following guns were used in the AMC TV series [[Breaking Bad]]:<br /> =Pistols=<br /> <br /> ==Smith &amp; Wesson 4506==<br /> <br /> In the pilot episode, this gun is in drug dealer, Krazy 8's possession. Not long after, Walt becomes its new owner before Jesse disposes of it in the following episode.<br /> [[Image:S&amp;W4506.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp; Wesson 4506 .45 ACP]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_12.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Walter White breaks down with the 4506.]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_13.jpg|600px|thumb|none|If there was a doubt of the gun, here is a closeup.]]<br /> [[File:BreakingBad4506.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Walt with the 4506. We get a good view of the muzzle here]]<br /> <br /> ==M1911A1==<br /> Used by a few characters throughout the series, most noticeably by the 'Cousins' in season three. The Cousin's 1911s are nickel-plated. <br /> <br /> [[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|390px|none|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]<br /> [[Image:The-cousins-breaking-bad-s3e1.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|One of the 'Cousins' shooting the [[M1911A1]]||500px|The Cousins load up their M1911A1s.]]<br /> [[File:BreakingBadM1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[Aaron Paul]] with an [[M1911A1]] in a promotional photo.]]<br /> <br /> ==Jericho 941==<br /> <br /> Tuco Salamanca ([[Raymond Cruz]]) uses a [[Jericho 941]] with a two-tone finish as his sidearm. In Episode 2x02, &quot;Grilled&quot;, Jesse takes it from him while they are fighting on the ground and uses it to wound him. It is later buried in the desert in the following episode.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jericho 941 (two tone early model) - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:BrBa-Jericho.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tuco, out of frame in the back seat, uses his Jericho 941 to coerce Jesse in Episode 2x01, &quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&quot; The hand is actually RJ Mitte's hand filling in for Raymond Cruz.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-Jericho-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In Episode 2x02, &quot;Grilled&quot;, Tuco points his Jericho at Walt.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-Jericho-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jesse and Walt take cover while Jesse holds the Jericho.]]<br /> <br /> ==Glock 17==<br /> <br /> A Glock, possibly model 17, is carried by police officers in S05xE01, In S5E2 &quot;Madrigal&quot;, Chris (one of Mike's former men) uses one with a supressor to kill Duane Chow.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E01_3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:BreakingBad S05E02 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Chris tries to get the drop on Mike when he shows up at Chow's.]]<br /> <br /> ==Glock 22==<br /> <br /> Hank Schrader shows off his issue [[Glock 22]] during the party in the first episode. He actually refers to it as a Glock 22 and praises the power of the .40-caliber round over 9x19mm (claiming to have seen the latter cartridge ricochet off a car windshield). He uses the Glock 22 in his shootout with Tuco in the episode &quot;Grilled&quot; of season two. It can be seen occasionally throughout season two and three.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Glock22.jpg|thumb|none|300px|3rd-generation Glock 22 - .40 S&amp;W]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_S01E01_01.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Hank Schrader showing off his Glock 22 during the Pilot episode.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-G22-2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Hank fires his Glock 22 in Episode 2x02, &quot;Grilled&quot; in a shootout with Tuco Salamanca.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-G22-1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|A good close-up of the Glock 22 as Hank fires it at Tuco. The &quot;22&quot; stamp is faintly visible on the slide when the image is enlarged to full-size.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-G22-3.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Hank holds the Glock while Tuco reloads his M4.]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Hank_1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Hank_2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|]]<br /> <br /> ==Ruger SP101==<br /> This is the revolver purchased by Jesse. He uses it to intimidate an unnamed female junkie and her husband, Spooge after they rip-off one of Jesse's dealers.<br /> <br /> [[Image:RugerSP101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger SP101 - .357 Magnum]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_01.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Jesse's new protection in the first episode of season two, &quot;Seven Thirty-Seven&quot;.]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_02.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Jesse shows Walt his new purchase, with a plan in mind: &quot;It is him or us, man, do you understand? It is him or us!&quot;]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E01_03.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Walt briefly &quot;borrows&quot; Jesse's gun. Quickly forgetting it at home when they need it most.]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E06_01.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Jesse waits for Spooge and his wife to return home in the episode &quot;Peekaboo&quot;.]]<br /> [[Image:Breaking_Bad_S02E07_05.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Walt unloads the revolver; note the five cartridges.]]<br /> [[File:BreakingBadSP101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jesse with the Ruger]]<br /> <br /> ==Ruger KGP-161==<br /> Emilio's gun. Taken out of the yellow bag by Walter in S01E02 and later dissolved in the tub.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Ruger_KGP161.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Ruger KGP-161 - .357 Magnum]]<br /> <br /> ==Ruger LCR==<br /> Walter White purchases a [[Ruger LCR]] from an illegal arms dealer (Played by Jim Beaver) along with a leather I.W.B. holster in S4E2 &quot;Thirty-Eight Snub&quot;. The arms dealer recommends he load it with 158 grain hollow points for good stopping power, and also recommends he not cross draw unless he is sitting down. Although the Ruger is seen quite a bit in season 4, Walt only successfully uses it once.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Lcr_stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR standard with Hogue tamer grips.]]<br /> [[File:1318344220595.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Walter White aiming the Ruger LCR in S4E13 &quot;Face Off&quot;]]<br /> [[File:BreakingBadLCR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]<br /> [[File:1311548830-screen shot 2011-07-24 at 6.51.07 pm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Walt with the LCR as he talks with the arms dealer]]<br /> [[File:38snub1.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Walt practicing killing Gus from a sitting position]]<br /> [[File:Breaking_Bad_LCR_upsidedown.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LCR dropped on the floor]]<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Smith &amp; Wesson M945==<br /> A [[Smith &amp; Wesson 945]] is used by rival drug dealer and by Walt to shoot the dealer after running him over.<br /> <br /> [[Image:M945 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stainless Smith &amp; Wesson 945 - .45 ACP]]<br /> [[Image:Episode-12-Bullethead-760.jpg|600px|thumb|none|The drug dealer reaching for his pistol]] <br /> [[Image:Episode-12-Walt-2-760.jpg|600px|thumb|none]]<br /> [[Image:Episode-12-Walt-Bullethead-2-760.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Walt shoots the injured drug dealer.]]<br /> <br /> ==Beretta 84F Cheetah==<br /> Jesse buys and plans to use a [[Beretta 80 Series Pistols - &quot;Cheetah&quot;|Beretta 84F Cheetah]] to take revenge on drug dealers who killed his friend, but he never fires it as Walt intervenes with his car. He later uses it to kill Gale. In S5E2 &quot;Madrigal&quot; Mike uses a supressed Berettah Cheetah to kill his former man Chris, at the conclusion of the episode he is seen checking it and later threatening the paranoid Madrigal executive Lydia with it.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Beretta_a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 84F .380 ACP]]<br /> [[Image:Episode-12-Jesse-4-760.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jesse preparing to shoot the drug dealers who killed his friend.]]<br /> [[File:Gale 528 poster.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jesse aiming the Beretta at Gale. Note this shot is blurry due to it focusing on his facial expression, rather than the firearm.]]<br /> [[File:BreakingBad S05E02 2.jpg|600px|thumb|none| Mike checks the Beretta before entering Lydia's house.]]<br /> [[File:BreakingBad S05E02 3.jpg|600px|thumb|none| Mike threatens Lydia with his supressed Cheetah.]]<br /> <br /> ==Taurus PT92AFS==<br /> Jesse &amp; Mike pick up [[Taurus PT92AFS]] pistols from dead men and use them when escaping Don Eladio's compound, Jesse empties his into a cartel member who wounds Mike.<br /> [[File:TaurusPT92AFSwBlack.jpg|300px|thumb|none| Taurus PT92AFS with Black Grips]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E01_2.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Mike aims his Taurus at Walt in S5E1 &quot;Live Free or Die&quot;]]<br /> <br /> ==Heckler &amp; Koch Mark 23==<br /> <br /> A [[Heckler &amp; Koch Mark 23]] is used with a suppressor by Mike ([[Jonathan Banks]]) in Episode 3x03, &quot;Full Measures&quot;. The suppressor he uses is a fake &quot;Hollywood suppressor&quot; which screws into the barrel of the pistol (via the threading for the blank adapter), rather than onto the exterior threading. Mike uses the Mark 23 again in Episode 4x04, &quot;Bullet Points&quot; to take out a pair of Ciudad Juárez cartel gunmen who ambush a refrigerated truck transporting methamphetamine (though he uses it without the suppressor in this episode).<br /> <br /> [[Image:H&amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg‎|500px|thumb|none|Heckler &amp; Koch Mark 23 w/ KAC suppressor - .45 ACP.]]<br /> [[Image:Mikehkmk23.jpg‎|600px|thumb|none|Mike wielding his suppressed H&amp;K Mark 23 in Episode 3x03, &quot;Full Measures&quot;.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-404-Mark23-1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Mike draws his H&amp;K Mark 23 (now without the suppressor) while guarding a refrigerated truck in Episode 4x04, &quot;Bullet Points&quot;.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-404-Mark23-2.jpg‎|600px|thumb|none|Mike takes cover behind some boxes with the Mark 23 in hand.]]<br /> <br /> ==Taurus Model 85==<br /> [[File:Episode-7-jesse-mike.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Givin to Jesse by Mike in S4E7]]<br /> [[File:T1larg.breakingbad.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Mike with [[Taurus Model 85]] in S4E7]]<br /> <br /> ==Ruger P95==<br /> <br /> A [[Ruger P95]] is used by one of the drug dealers in the episode &quot;Half Measures&quot; before the shootout.<br /> <br /> [[File:BrBa - Taurus.jpg|600px]]<br /> <br /> =Submachine Guns=<br /> <br /> ==Heckler &amp; Koch MP5K==<br /> <br /> In Episode 4x04, &quot;Bullet Points&quot;, a refrigerated truck guarded by Mike ([[Jonathan Banks]]) is ambushed and then shot up by two Ciudad Juárez cartel enforcers, both of whom are armed with [[Heckler &amp; Koch MP5K]]s.<br /> <br /> [[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-404-MP5K-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Episode 4x04, &quot;Bullet Points&quot;, two cartel gunmen fire upon a refrigerated truck transporting methamphetamine, armed with H&amp;K MP5Ks.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-404-MP5K-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|An extremely good close-up of one of the MP5Ks being reloaded.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-404-MP5K-3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the gunmen resumes spraying the truck with gunfire.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-404-MP5K-4.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A close-up of an MP5K being fired.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-404-MP5K-5.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The two gunmen continue firing.]]<br /> <br /> =Assault Rifles=<br /> <br /> ==M4A1 Carbine==<br /> <br /> An [[M4A1 Carbine]] is used by Tuco (sometimes with an ACOG scope) in Episode 2x02, &quot;Grilled&quot;, when he takes Walt and Jesse hostage. Walt later takes this weapon from him when Tuco is bashed over the head with a rock by Jesse. However, Tuco gets it out of the car when DEA agent Hank, who is also Walt's brother-in-law, arrives at Tuco's hideout. DEA agents also use M4A1s when they arrest Jesse in 'Bit By a Dead Bee'. The M4A1 appears again in Episode 4x06, &quot;Cornered&quot; in the hands of one of Gustavo Fring's ([[Giancarlo Esposito]]'s) gunmen riding in the back of the refrigerated truck.<br /> <br /> [[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 Carbine - 5.56x45mm]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-M4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tuco points his M4A1 at Jesse.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-M4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the receiver of Tuco's M4.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-M4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tuco fires the M4 (now fitted with an ACOG sight) while &quot;hunting&quot;.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-M4-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tuco holds the M4 in the house when his Uncle Hector signals him that something is wrong. Now the scope is gone.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-M4-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Walt holds the M4 on Tuco and Jesse as they fight for control of Tuco's Jericho 941.]]<br /> [[Image:BreakBad-202-M4-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tuco fires the M4 in the shootout with Hank.]]<br /> [[Image:Hank Quotes 325x200.jpg|600px|thumb|none|A publicity photo of Hank with an M4.]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Tuco1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|]]<br /> <br /> ==Colt Model 933==<br /> <br /> The other of the two mercenaries guarding the refrigerated truck in Episode 4x06, &quot;Cornered&quot; is armed with a [[Colt Model 933]], the shorter-barreled version of the [[M4A1]] carried by his accomplice.<br /> <br /> [[Image:ColtM4commando.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 933 with bayonet lug deleted - 5.56x45mm]]<br /> <br /> =Shotguns=<br /> <br /> ==Mossberg 500==<br /> Clovis, a tow truck and junkyard owner who is a cousin of an associate of Jesse's, uses a shortened [[Mossberg 500]] to threaten an intruder sleeping in Jesse's RV, but put up his gun when the intruder turns out to be Jesse himself (S2E4, &quot;Down&quot;). Specifically, the weapon appears to be a cut down 500AT; the stock has either been shortened to, or replaced with, a pistol grip, but the barrel appears to be original as it has the original bead sight (thereby narrowly escaping being a &quot;short-barreled shotgun&quot; for purposes of the 1934 National Firearms Act).<br /> <br /> [[Image:Mossberg500AT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mossberg 500AT]]<br /> [[Image:BrBa-ClovisSG01.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Clovis holds his shotgun on Jesse; note the bead sight atop the muzzle]]<br /> [[Image:BrBa-ClovisSG02.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Clovis shoulders the shotgun, displaying the pistol grip]]<br /> <br /> ==Mossberg 500 Mariner==<br /> An [[Mossberg 500 Mariner]] is used by a police officer before he is axed by one of the Cousins.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Mossberg500AMarinerStd.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500A Mariner (18.5&quot; barrel) with the proprietary Marinecote™ Finish and Synthetic Stock - 12 Gauge]]<br /> [[Image:BrBa306PoliceShotgun.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|A police officer approaches ''the Cousins''' hideout, Episode 3x06.]]<br /> <br /> =Non Guns=<br /> <br /> ==Non Descript Pocket Pistol non gun==<br /> [[File:Large breaking bad s2 blu-ray6t.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Used by a child to carry out a hit. ]]<br /> <br /> =Other=<br /> ==M60==<br /> Walter White ([[Bryan Cranston]]) is seen retrieving an [[M60 machine gun]], with an instruction manual and several boxes of ammunition, from the trunk of a car after purchasing it in S5E1 &quot;Live Free or Die&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[File:M60GPMG.jpg|600px|thumb|none|M60E1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> [[Image:BB_S05E01_1.jpg|600px|thumb|none|An [[M60]] along with its manual and several boxes of ammunition]]<br /> <br /> =&quot;Negro Y Azul&quot; Weapons=<br /> A music video appears in the Season 2 episode &quot;Negro Y Azul&quot; (Spanish for black and blue). A multitude of weapons appear in the video. All of the guns which appear in this video are clearly airsoft weapons, as opposed to the blank-adapted real firearms used elsewhere on the show.<br /> <br /> ==Unknown Revolver==<br /> An unknown Smith &amp; Wesson model revolver can be seen in the &quot;Negro Y Azul&quot; music video. It is sitting next to several bags of the Walt's signature blue meth. It appears to be a Smith &amp; Wesson Model 686 .357 Magnum.<br /> [[Image:BB Unknown Revolver.jpg|600px|thumb|none|A Smith &amp; Wesson laying next to some Pesos and Walt's blue meth. ]]<br /> <br /> ==Heckler &amp; Koch MP5K==<br /> An [[MP5K]] is seen in the music video for &quot;Negro y Azul&quot;. It is lying on the ground with some other weapons. [[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|290px|Heckler &amp; Koch MP5K - 9x19mm.]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The MP5K can be seen dead-center. The subtitles are unremovable as the song - Negro Y Azul - is in Spanish. ]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another view of the MP5K - which is indeed an MP5K as one can see the magazine release paddle. ]]<br /> [http://www.example.com link title]==<br /> <br /> ==AK-47==<br /> An [[AK-47]] can be seen in the music video for &quot;Negro y Azul&quot;.<br /> [[Image:AK47WeWereSoldiersHeroGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]]<br /> <br /> ==IMI Uzi ==<br /> A full-sized [[Uzi]] with the extended stock can be seen in the music video for &quot;Negro y Azul&quot;.<br /> [[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The full size Uzi is to the right, in the shadows. Notice the extended stock.]]<br /> <br /> ==IMI Mini-Uzi==<br /> A [[Mini Uzi]] can be seen in the music video for &quot;Negro y Azul&quot;. It is lying near the full-size Uzi.<br /> [[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Uzi - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The Mini-Uzi is left to the full-sized one's stock]]<br /> <br /> ==FN P90==<br /> An [[FN P90]] can be seen in the music video for &quot;Negro y Azul&quot;. <br /> [[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The P90's stock is by &quot;That blue&quot;.]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A P90 stock and magazine are on the left.]]<br /> <br /> ==Heckler &amp; Koch UMP==<br /> A [[Heckler &amp; Koch UMP]] can be seen in the music video for &quot;Negro y Azul&quot;.<br /> [[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp; Koch UMP - .45 ACP]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Negro_Y_Azul_2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The UMP is next to the M4.]]<br /> [[Image:BB_Nergo_Y_Azul_guns.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The UMP is at top-left. Notice the straight magazine, confirming it is a UMP]]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Television]]<br /> [[Category:Drama]]<br /> [[Category:Crime]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=The_Dawns_Here_are_Quiet_(A_zori_zdes_tikhie)&diff=590374 2012-07-15T07:30:15Z

<p>Flexo: /* MP40 */</p> <hr /> <div>[[File:Lgb89898d7002b63d9467e9.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Dawns Here are Quiet (A zori zdes tikhie)'' (1972)]]<br /> <br /> '''''The Dawns Here are Quiet (A zori zdes tikhie)''''' (Russian Title: '''''А зори здесь тихие''''') is a 1972 Soviet film directed by Stanislav Rostotsky based on the eponymous novel by Boris Vasilyev. The film was nominated for an Oscar in the Best Foreign Language Film category.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> __TOC__&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;<br /> <br /> '''The following weapons are featured in the film ''The Dawns Here are Quiet (A zori zdes tikhie)'':''' <br /> <br /> =Pistols=<br /> ==Tokarev TT-33==<br /> Zhenja Komelkowa ([[Olga Ostroumova]]) is learning to shoot with [[TT-33]] pistol on a military shooting range.<br /> [[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]<br /> [[Image:Olga_Ostroumova-TT_pistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:Olga_Ostroumova-TT_-33_Pistol-detail.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> ==Russian Nagant M1895==<br /> [[Image:Nagant-1895.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nagant M1895 Pistol - 7.62x38N cartridge (aka 7.62 Nagant ammo).]]<br /> [[Image:Andrei_Martynov-Nagant_M1895.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vaskov (Andrei Martynov) with his [[Nagant Revolver#Russian Nagant M1895|Nagant Revolver]].]]<br /> [[Image:Zori-Nagant_M1895.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vaskov fires his Nagant revolver at Germans.]]<br /> <br /> =Submachine Guns=<br /> <br /> ==MP40==<br /> [[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]]<br /> ‎[[Image:German_paratroopers-MP40.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German paratroopers armed with the [[MP40]] submachine guns.]]<br /> [[Image:Zori-MP40-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German saboteur holds his MP40 submachine gun]]<br /> [[Image:Andrei_Martynov.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|''Starshina'' aka Petty Officer Vaskov (Andrei Martynov) fires from a captured [[MP40]] submachine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:Irina_Shevcuhk.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Rita Osjanina ([[Irina Shevchuk]]) opens fire with the [[MP40]] submachine gun at German paratroopers.]]<br /> [[Image:Zori-MP40.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Rita Osjanina fires captured MP40 submachine gun]]<br /> [[Image:Olga_Ostroumova-MP_40.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Private Zhenja Komelkowa ([[Olga Ostroumova]]) fires the MP40 submachine gun trying to divert the German saboteurs from the injured Rita and Vaskov.]]<br /> [[Image:Zori-MP40-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''Hey You!!! For Rita, for Galya, For Sonya, for Liza!..'']]<br /> <br /> =Rifles=<br /> ==Mosin Nagant Rifle==<br /> ===Full-length Mosin Nagant Rifle===<br /> [[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Soviet Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]<br /> [[Image:Andrei_Martynov-Mosin-Nagant.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Vaskov (Andrei Martynov) with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle]].]]<br /> <br /> ===Mosin Nagant Model 1907 Carbine===<br /> [[Image:Mosin-M1907.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Mosin Nagant Model 1907 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]<br /> [[Image:Zori-M1907.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Some girls can be seen armed with the Mosin Nagant Model 1907 Carbines]]<br /> <br /> === Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine ===<br /> [[File:M38Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]<br /> [[Image:Girl-Mosin_Nagant_rifle.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Girls of anti-aircraft battery armed with a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine]].]]<br /> [[Image:Olga_Ostroumova-Mosin-Nagant.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Zhenja Komelkowa ([[Olga Ostroumova]]) aims her [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine]] at the German soldiers.]]<br /> [[Image:Irina_Shevchuk-Mosin-Nagant.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Rita Osjanina ([[Irina Shevchuk]]) trying to shoot German saboteur from a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine]].]]<br /> [[Image:Zori-M38.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine]]<br /> <br /> =Hand Grenades=<br /> == RGD-33 Stick Grenade ==<br /> Starshina Vaskov (Andrei Martynov) used [[RGD-33 Stick Grenade]]<br /> [[Image:Rgd-33russianfrag mp.jpg|thumb|none|350px|RGD-33 High-Explosive Fragmentation stick grenade]]<br /> [[Image:Andrei_Martynov-RGD-33.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> [[Image:Detail-RGD-33.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> =Machine Guns=<br /> ==KPV heavy machine gun==<br /> [[Image:ZPU-4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|left|KPV heavy machine guns in ZPU-4 quad anti-aircraft mount - 14.5x114mm]]<br /> [[Image:Zori-ZPU2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A ZPU-4 quad anti-aircraft mount behind the Red Army soldier]]<br /> [[Image:KPV_heavy_machine_guns_in_ZPU-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Girls served by the anti-aircraft batteries [[KPV heavy machine gun]]s.]]<br /> [[Image:Irina_Shevchuk-ZPU-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Rita Osjanina ([[Irina Shevchuk]]) downed from the anti-aircraft KPV heavy machine gun the one German Focke-Wulf Fw 189 reconnaissance aircraft.]]<br /> [[Image:Zori-ZPU.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Movie]]<br /> [[Category:War]]<br /> [[Category:B&amp;W]]<br /> [[Category:Russian Produced/Filmed]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Four_Tankers_and_A_Dog_(Czterej_pancerni_i_pies)&diff=578060 2012-06-16T06:52:08Z

<p>Flexo: /* Mosin Rifle */</p> <hr /> <div>(commented deleted due to IMFDB rules against NON-english in discussion forums, i.e. the Mods don't know what you're talking about, thus we cannot police good versus bad behavior. So ENGLISH ONLY. ) mpm<br /> <br /> == AKM instead StG ? ==<br /> I've seen this series in my school years, far ago. As far as I remember, German soldiers were constantly seen with AKMs (or AK-47?) instead StG 44. Do I remember right? There are no screenshots with AK or StG on the page, so I cannot check my memory :). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 15:01, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Mosin Rifle==<br /> Are You really think that it's Mosin-Nagant rifle?<br /> [[Image:Soviet sniper with M-N rifle-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|.]]<br /> [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 12:14, 16 June 2012 (EET)<br /> <br /> Maybe not in reality, but it had should be - see odstřeovače person. Or what other guns other Soviet snipers used?--Шшшш[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 01:35, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I belive it's Mauser K98k --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 01:52, 16 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=578057 2012-06-16T06:48:04Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. :(( Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:14, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ::We usually don't list Government owned armories (as their own brand) since they are not a 'brand'. Ishvek is listed because they sell guns to civilians and other countries apart from the government. I own several Ishvek guns myself. I'm curious about Molot. Also Shouldn't the title just be MOLOT? The longer form name should be listed in the description. It's like COLT. Not &quot;Patent Arms Manufacturing Company of Paterson, New Jersey (1836)&quot; ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]<br /> <br /> ::: &quot;Ishvek&quot;??? May be you mean Izhmekh or Izmash http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Izhmekh --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:34, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ::: You are absolutely right. Wikipedia says this plant has official short name JCS &quot;Molot&quot;: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4 --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:38, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> ::: By the way Molot sell guns to civilians too (moreover, now it is their main business)--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:44, 15 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577866 2012-06-15T22:44:37Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. :(( Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:14, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ::We usually don't list Government owned armories (as their own brand) since they are not a 'brand'. Ishvek is listed because they sell guns to civilians and other countries apart from the government. I own several Ishvek guns myself. I'm curious about Molot. Also Shouldn't the title just be MOLOT? The longer form name should be listed in the description. It's like COLT. Not &quot;Patent Arms Manufacturing Company of Paterson, New Jersey (1836)&quot; ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]<br /> <br /> ::: &quot;Ishvek&quot;??? May be you mean Izhmekh or Izmash http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Izhmekh --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:34, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> :::: You are absolutely right. Wikipedia says this plant has official short name JCS &quot;Molot&quot;: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4 --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:38, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> :::: By the way Molot sell guns to civilians too (moreover, now it is their main business)--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:44, 15 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577861 2012-06-15T22:38:57Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. :(( Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:14, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ::We usually don't list Government owned armories (as their own brand) since they are not a 'brand'. Ishvek is listed because they sell guns to civilians and other countries apart from the government. I own several Ishvek guns myself. I'm curious about Molot. Also Shouldn't the title just be MOLOT? The longer form name should be listed in the description. It's like COLT. Not &quot;Patent Arms Manufacturing Company of Paterson, New Jersey (1836)&quot; ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]<br /> <br /> ::: &quot;Ishvek&quot;??? May be you mean Izhmekh or Izmash http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Izhmekh --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:34, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> :::: You are absolutely right. Wikipedia says this plant has official short name JCS &quot;Molot&quot;: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4 --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:38, 15 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577856 2012-06-15T22:35:25Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. :(( Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:14, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ::We usually don't list Government owned armories (as their own brand) since they are not a 'brand'. Ishvek is listed because they sell guns to civilians and other countries apart from the government. I own several Ishvek guns myself. I'm curious about Molot. Also Shouldn't the title just be MOLOT? The longer form name should be listed in the description. It's like COLT. Not &quot;Patent Arms Manufacturing Company of Paterson, New Jersey (1836)&quot; ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]<br /> <br /> ::: &quot;Ishvek&quot;??? May be you mean Izhmekh or Izmash http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Izhmekh --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:34, 15 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577855 2012-06-15T22:35:06Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. :(( Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:14, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ::We usually don't list Government owned armories (as their own brand) since they are not a 'brand'. Ishvek is listed because they sell guns to civilians and other countries apart from the government. I own several Ishvek guns myself. I'm curious about Molot. Also Shouldn't the title just be MOLOT? The longer form name should be listed in the description. It's like COLT. Not &quot;Patent Arms Manufacturing Company of Paterson, New Jersey (1836)&quot; ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]<br /> <br /> :: &quot;Ishvek&quot;??? May be you mean Izhmekh or Izmash http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Izhmekh --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:34, 15 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577853 2012-06-15T22:34:49Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. :(( Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:14, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ::We usually don't list Government owned armories (as their own brand) since they are not a 'brand'. Ishvek is listed because they sell guns to civilians and other countries apart from the government. I own several Ishvek guns myself. I'm curious about Molot. Also Shouldn't the title just be MOLOT? The longer form name should be listed in the description. It's like COLT. Not &quot;Patent Arms Manufacturing Company of Paterson, New Jersey (1836)&quot; ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]<br /> <br /> :: &quot;Ishvek&quot;??? May be you mean Izhmekh or Izmash http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Izhmekh<br /> --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 17:34, 15 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577852 2012-06-15T22:34:24Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. :(( Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:14, 15 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ::We usually don't list Government owned armories (as their own brand) since they are not a 'brand'. Ishvek is listed because they sell guns to civilians and other countries apart from the government. I own several Ishvek guns myself. I'm curious about Molot. Also Shouldn't the title just be MOLOT? The longer form name should be listed in the description. It's like COLT. Not &quot;Patent Arms Manufacturing Company of Paterson, New Jersey (1836)&quot; ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]<br /> <br /> :: &quot;Ishvek&quot;??? May be you mean Izhmekh or Izmash http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Izhmekh</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Four_Tankers_and_A_Dog_(Czterej_pancerni_i_pies)&diff=577731 2012-06-15T21:21:18Z

<p>Flexo: /* PPSh-41 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Infobox TV|{{PAGENAME}}<br /> |name= Czterej pancerni i pies<br /> |picture = Czterej pancerni i pies-poster.jpg<br /> |caption = <br /> |country = [[File:Poland.jpg|25px]] Poland<br /> |channel = Telewizja Polska (TVP)<br /> |genre = War / Adventure<br /> |creator = &quot;Syrena&quot; and &quot;Nike&quot;<br /> |dates = 1966 - 1970<br /> |language = Polish<br /> |seasons = 1<br /> |episodes = 21<br /> |character1=Cpl Janek Kos <br /> |actor1=[[Janusz Gajos]]<br /> |character2=Cpl Gustaw Jeleń <br /> |actor2=[[Franciszek Pieczek]]<br /> |character3=Sgt Lidka Wisniewska <br /> |actor3=[[Malgorzata Niemirska]]<br /> |character4=Sgt Franek Wichura <br /> |actor4=[[Witold Pyrkosz]]<br /> |character5=Marusia 'Ogoniok' <br /> |actor5=[[Pola Raksa]]<br /> |character6=Pvt Tomek Czeresniak<br /> |actor6=[[Wieslaw Golas]]<br /> |character7=Sgt Grigoriy Saakashvili<br /> |actor7=[[Wlodzimierz Press]]<br /> |character8=Lt Olgierd Jarosz <br /> |actor8=[[Roman Wilhelmi]]<br /> |character9=Col Tadeusz <br /> |actor9=[[Tadeusz Kailinowski]]<br /> |character10=Honorata<br /> |actor10=[[Barbara Krafftówna]]<br /> }}<br /> '''Czterej pancerni i pies''' (English: ''Four Tankers and A Dog'') is a Polish produced war adventure television series which ran from 1966 - 1970. It tells the story of tank crew of Polish army in the USSR during the Second World War<br /> <br /> __TOC__&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;<br /> <br /> = Pistols =<br /> <br /> == Tokarev TT-33 pistole ==<br /> [[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev. Tula Arsenal (Soviet Union) Note CCCP printing around the star on the plastic grips]]<br /> [[Image:Roman Wilhelmi-TT pistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Lt Olgierd Jarosz leads men to attack with a [[Tokarev TT-33]] pistol in his hand.]]<br /> [[Image:Wlodzimierz Press-TT pistol.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. &quot;Gresh&quot; (Wlodzimierz Press) (left) holds his Tokarev TT-33 pistol.]]<br /> <br /> == Mauser C96 ==<br /> [[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Pre-War dated Mauser C96 &quot;Broomhandle&quot; Commercial Version - 7.63x25mm Mauser. ]]<br /> ‎[[Image:Janusz Gajos-Mauser C96.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Janek Kos ([[Janusz Gajos]]) took a [[Mauser C96]] pistol.]]<br /> <br /> == Luger P08 ==<br /> [[Image:Luger.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm]]<br /> ‎[[Image:SS-officer-Luger P08-4tp.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|SS officer by a [[Luger P08]] pistol armed took as his hostage nurse Marusia.]]<br /> <br /> == Walther P38 pistol ==<br /> [[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P38 pistol (manufactured at the Mauser Factory) - World War II dated - 9x19mm]]<br /> ‎‎[[Image:German soldier-Walther P38-4tp.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|German feldwebel pointing his [[Walther P38]] pistol at Janek Kos.]]<br /> ‎<br /> <br /> = Submachine guns =<br /> <br /> == PPSh-41 ==<br /> [[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Soviet PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]<br /> [[Image:Soviet soldiers-PPSh-41-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The [[PPSh-41]] submachine guns uses a Soviet Army soldiers.]]<br /> [[Image:Polish soldier-PPSh-41-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 submachine gun is also fighting arms of Polish troops.]]<br /> [[Image:Malgorzata Niemirska-PPSh-41.jpg‎‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Lidka (Malgorzata Niemirska) wields a submachine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:German soldier-PPSh-41-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|German feldwebel tries to hit the dog &quot;Sharik&quot; by soviet sub-machine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:Pola Raksa-PPSh-41.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Nurse Marusia (Pola Raksa) armed by PPSh-41 submachine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-PPSh-41.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Gustlik (Fraciszek Pieczek) usually used [[PPSh-41]] submachine guns.]]<br /> [[Image:Barbara Krafftówna-PPSh-41.BMP.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Honorata ([[Barbara Krafftówna]]) with a submachine give a captured Germans in the cellar.]]<br /> [[Image:Wieslaw Golas-PPSh-41.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Pvt. Tomek Czeresniak (Wieslaw Golas) fights on the floor of the house in Berlin.]]<br /> <br /> == MP40 ==<br /> [[Image:MP40Side.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:German soldier-MP40-detail-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|German soldiers armed a [[MP40]] submachine guns.]]<br /> ‎[[Image:Janusz Gajos-MP40-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Janek Kos (Janusz Gajos) with a loot German submachine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-MP40.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Gustaw Jeleń (Franciszek Pieczka) himself defend a positions against the odds.]]<br /> [[Image:Wlodzimierz Press-MP40.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. &quot;Gresh&quot; Saakashvili (Wlodzimierz Press) disarmed Germans.]]<br /> <br /> == Bergmann MP18 ==<br /> [[Image:MP18I.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Bergmann MP18 Sub Machine Gun with Drum - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:Japanese soldier-MP-18-4tp.BMP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Japanese paratrooper shoot from a submachine gun on the Janka.]]<br /> ‎[[Image:Japanese soldier-MP-18-detail.BMP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|It was a Japanese [[Bergmann MP18]].]]<br /> <br /> = Rifles =<br /> <br /> == 12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun ==<br /> [[Image:StevesSBS1960s.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|1960s Era Commercial Stevens hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-12 pounder doubble barreled.BMP.jpg‎‎|none|thumb|500px|Janek (Janusz Gajos) shot Japanese from his [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]].]]<br /> <br /> == Mosin Nagant Rifle ==<br /> [[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Soviet Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]<br /> [[Image:Soviet soldier-Mosi Nagant rifle-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Red army soldier shoots from a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle]] on the aircraft.]]<br /> [[Image:Soviet sniper with M-N rifle-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet sniper with his rifle in a fight.]]<br /> [[Image:M38Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Soviet Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]<br /> [[Image:Polish soldier-MN rifle-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Polish soldier with a carbine Mosin Nagant on his back.]]<br /> <br /> == Karabiner 98k ==<br /> [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Janek Kos (Janusz Gajos) holds a [[Karabiner 98k]] rifle.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-Karabiner 98k.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Jeleń (Franciszek Pieczka) disguised as a German soldier.]]<br /> [[Image:Mauser_g98_Sniper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Karabiner 98k Sniper with Zeiss ZF42 scope - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-K 98 sniper.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpl Janek Kos has also become an excellent sniper.]]<br /> <br /> = Machine guns =<br /> <br /> == Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun ==<br /> Janek (Janusz Gajos) use the [[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyaryov DP-27/DP-28]].<br /> [[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Degtyarev DP-28 machine gun, 7.62x54mm R]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-DPM-fire.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-DPM.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]<br /> <br /> == Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun ==<br /> Janek (Janusz Gajos) use the [[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun]].<br /> [[Image:DT tank machine gun TBiU 11.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DT machine gun - 7.62x54mm R]]<br /> [[Image:Malgorzata Niemirska-DT tank gun.BMP.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Lidka occasionally to serving with a [[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyaryov DT]] machine gun.]]<br /> <br /> == MG42 ==<br /> [[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG42 Machine Gun - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br /> [[Image:German soldiers-MG42.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A German gunner in fight with his [[MG42]] machine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:Wlodzimierz Press-MG42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. &quot;Gresh&quot; (Wlodzimierz Press) reflects German attacks by fire from machine gun.]]<br /> <br /> == MG34 ==<br /> [[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with 75-round ammo drum]]<br /> [[Image:German soldiers-MG34-4tp.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|German soldiers fired by [[MG34]] machine gun.]]<br /> <br /> = Hand grenades =<br /> <br /> == F-1 hand grenade ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Deactivated f1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|F-1 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]<br /> [[Image:Soviet soldier-F-1 hg-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet soldier (left) with [[F-1 hand grenade]]s in his belt.]]<br /> [[Image:Polish soldier-F-1 hg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Polish soldier playing with a hand grenade.]]<br /> <br /> == Model 24 Stielhandgranate ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:24-43_grenade.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|Model 24 Stielhandgranate]]<br /> [[Image:German soldier-M24 Shg-4tp.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|none|German soldiers eqipped by a [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]]s.]]<br /> [[Image:Wieslaw Golas-Model 24 Stielhandgranate.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|none|Pvt. Tomek awakened the crew of &quot;Rudy&quot; by a hand grenade.]]<br /> [[Image:Barbara Krafftówna-M24 shg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|none|Honorata (Barbara Krafftówna) throws a hand grenades at the Germans one by one.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-Model 24 shg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|none|Cpl. Gustaw Jeleń safety catch off a hand grenade.]]<br /> <br /> = Others =<br /> <br /> ==OSP-30 Flare Pistol==<br /> [[Image:OSP-30.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Russian OSP-30 Flare Pistol 26.5mm]]<br /> [[Image:Tadeusz Kailinowski-Kamfpistole Z.jpg|none|thumb|500px|Colonel Tadeusz gives the signal to launch an attack with [[OSP-30 Flare Pistol]].]]<br /> <br /> == Kampfpistole Z ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:German_flare.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|German Flare Gun 1944 No. 2]]<br /> [[Image:German officer-Kampfpistole Z-4tp.jpg‎|none|thumb|500px|The officer fired from [[Kampfpistole Z]] on a car driven by Cpl. Jelen.]]<br /> <br /> == Panzerfaust ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Panzerfaust.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Panzerfaust - 44mm with 149mm warhead]]<br /> [[Image:German soldier-Panzerfaust-4tp.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|German soldier lurking on the tank &quot;Rudy&quot; with a [[Panzerfaust]] at bridge.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-Panzerfaust.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Jeleń (Franciszek Pieczka) using by a Panzerfaust openned the water tank.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Television]]<br /> [[Category:War]]<br /> [[Category:Adventure Movie]]<br /> [[Category:Polish Produced/Filmed]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Four_Tankers_and_A_Dog_(Czterej_pancerni_i_pies)&diff=577729 2012-06-15T21:19:37Z

<p>Flexo: /* Walther P38 pistol */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Infobox TV|{{PAGENAME}}<br /> |name= Czterej pancerni i pies<br /> |picture = Czterej pancerni i pies-poster.jpg<br /> |caption = <br /> |country = [[File:Poland.jpg|25px]] Poland<br /> |channel = Telewizja Polska (TVP)<br /> |genre = War / Adventure<br /> |creator = &quot;Syrena&quot; and &quot;Nike&quot;<br /> |dates = 1966 - 1970<br /> |language = Polish<br /> |seasons = 1<br /> |episodes = 21<br /> |character1=Cpl Janek Kos <br /> |actor1=[[Janusz Gajos]]<br /> |character2=Cpl Gustaw Jeleń <br /> |actor2=[[Franciszek Pieczek]]<br /> |character3=Sgt Lidka Wisniewska <br /> |actor3=[[Malgorzata Niemirska]]<br /> |character4=Sgt Franek Wichura <br /> |actor4=[[Witold Pyrkosz]]<br /> |character5=Marusia 'Ogoniok' <br /> |actor5=[[Pola Raksa]]<br /> |character6=Pvt Tomek Czeresniak<br /> |actor6=[[Wieslaw Golas]]<br /> |character7=Sgt Grigoriy Saakashvili<br /> |actor7=[[Wlodzimierz Press]]<br /> |character8=Lt Olgierd Jarosz <br /> |actor8=[[Roman Wilhelmi]]<br /> |character9=Col Tadeusz <br /> |actor9=[[Tadeusz Kailinowski]]<br /> |character10=Honorata<br /> |actor10=[[Barbara Krafftówna]]<br /> }}<br /> '''Czterej pancerni i pies''' (English: ''Four Tankers and A Dog'') is a Polish produced war adventure television series which ran from 1966 - 1970. It tells the story of tank crew of Polish army in the USSR during the Second World War<br /> <br /> __TOC__&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;<br /> <br /> = Pistols =<br /> <br /> == Tokarev TT-33 pistole ==<br /> [[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev. Tula Arsenal (Soviet Union) Note CCCP printing around the star on the plastic grips]]<br /> [[Image:Roman Wilhelmi-TT pistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Lt Olgierd Jarosz leads men to attack with a [[Tokarev TT-33]] pistol in his hand.]]<br /> [[Image:Wlodzimierz Press-TT pistol.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. &quot;Gresh&quot; (Wlodzimierz Press) (left) holds his Tokarev TT-33 pistol.]]<br /> <br /> == Mauser C96 ==<br /> [[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Pre-War dated Mauser C96 &quot;Broomhandle&quot; Commercial Version - 7.63x25mm Mauser. ]]<br /> ‎[[Image:Janusz Gajos-Mauser C96.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Janek Kos ([[Janusz Gajos]]) took a [[Mauser C96]] pistol.]]<br /> <br /> == Luger P08 ==<br /> [[Image:Luger.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm]]<br /> ‎[[Image:SS-officer-Luger P08-4tp.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|SS officer by a [[Luger P08]] pistol armed took as his hostage nurse Marusia.]]<br /> <br /> == Walther P38 pistol ==<br /> [[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P38 pistol (manufactured at the Mauser Factory) - World War II dated - 9x19mm]]<br /> ‎‎[[Image:German soldier-Walther P38-4tp.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|German feldwebel pointing his [[Walther P38]] pistol at Janek Kos.]]<br /> ‎<br /> <br /> = Submachine guns =<br /> <br /> == PPSh-41 ==<br /> [[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Soviet PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]<br /> [[Image:Soviet soldiers-PPSh-41-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The [[PPSh-41]] submachine guns uses a Soviet Army soldiers.]]<br /> [[Image:Polish soldier-PPSh-41-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PPSh-41 submachine gun is also fighting arms of Polish troops.]]<br /> [[Image:Malgorzata Niemirska-PPSh-41.jpg‎‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Lidka (Malgorzata Niemirska) wields a submachine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:German soldier-PPSh-41-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|German soldier tries to hit the dog &quot;Sharik&quot; by soviet sub-machine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:Pola Raksa-PPSh-41.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Nurse Marusia (Pola Raksa) armed by PPSh-41 submachine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-PPSh-41.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Gustlik (Fraciszek Pieczek) usually used [[PPSh-41]] submachine guns.]]<br /> [[Image:Barbara Krafftówna-PPSh-41.BMP.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Honorata ([[Barbara Krafftówna]]) with a submachine give a captured Germans in the cellar.]]<br /> [[Image:Wieslaw Golas-PPSh-41.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|Pvt. Tomek Czeresniak (Wieslaw Golas) fights on the floor of the house in Berlin.]]<br /> <br /> == MP40 ==<br /> [[Image:MP40Side.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:German soldier-MP40-detail-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|German soldiers armed a [[MP40]] submachine guns.]]<br /> ‎[[Image:Janusz Gajos-MP40-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Janek Kos (Janusz Gajos) with a loot German submachine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-MP40.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Gustaw Jeleń (Franciszek Pieczka) himself defend a positions against the odds.]]<br /> [[Image:Wlodzimierz Press-MP40.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. &quot;Gresh&quot; Saakashvili (Wlodzimierz Press) disarmed Germans.]]<br /> <br /> == Bergmann MP18 ==<br /> [[Image:MP18I.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Bergmann MP18 Sub Machine Gun with Drum - 9x19mm]]<br /> [[Image:Japanese soldier-MP-18-4tp.BMP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Japanese paratrooper shoot from a submachine gun on the Janka.]]<br /> ‎[[Image:Japanese soldier-MP-18-detail.BMP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|It was a Japanese [[Bergmann MP18]].]]<br /> <br /> = Rifles =<br /> <br /> == 12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun ==<br /> [[Image:StevesSBS1960s.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|1960s Era Commercial Stevens hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-12 pounder doubble barreled.BMP.jpg‎‎|none|thumb|500px|Janek (Janusz Gajos) shot Japanese from his [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]].]]<br /> <br /> == Mosin Nagant Rifle ==<br /> [[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Soviet Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]<br /> [[Image:Soviet soldier-Mosi Nagant rifle-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Red army soldier shoots from a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle]] on the aircraft.]]<br /> [[Image:Soviet sniper with M-N rifle-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet sniper with his rifle in a fight.]]<br /> [[Image:M38Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Soviet Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine - 7.62x54mmR]]<br /> [[Image:Polish soldier-MN rifle-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Polish soldier with a carbine Mosin Nagant on his back.]]<br /> <br /> == Karabiner 98k ==<br /> [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-Karabiner 98k.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Janek Kos (Janusz Gajos) holds a [[Karabiner 98k]] rifle.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-Karabiner 98k.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Jeleń (Franciszek Pieczka) disguised as a German soldier.]]<br /> [[Image:Mauser_g98_Sniper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Karabiner 98k Sniper with Zeiss ZF42 scope - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-K 98 sniper.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpl Janek Kos has also become an excellent sniper.]]<br /> <br /> = Machine guns =<br /> <br /> == Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun ==<br /> Janek (Janusz Gajos) use the [[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyaryov DP-27/DP-28]].<br /> [[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Degtyarev DP-28 machine gun, 7.62x54mm R]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-DPM-fire.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|]]<br /> [[Image:Janusz Gajos-DPM.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]<br /> <br /> == Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun ==<br /> Janek (Janusz Gajos) use the [[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun]].<br /> [[Image:DT tank machine gun TBiU 11.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DT machine gun - 7.62x54mm R]]<br /> [[Image:Malgorzata Niemirska-DT tank gun.BMP.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Lidka occasionally to serving with a [[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyaryov DT]] machine gun.]]<br /> <br /> == MG42 ==<br /> [[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG42 Machine Gun - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br /> [[Image:German soldiers-MG42.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A German gunner in fight with his [[MG42]] machine gun.]]<br /> [[Image:Wlodzimierz Press-MG42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. &quot;Gresh&quot; (Wlodzimierz Press) reflects German attacks by fire from machine gun.]]<br /> <br /> == MG34 ==<br /> [[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with 75-round ammo drum]]<br /> [[Image:German soldiers-MG34-4tp.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|German soldiers fired by [[MG34]] machine gun.]]<br /> <br /> = Hand grenades =<br /> <br /> == F-1 hand grenade ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Deactivated f1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|F-1 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]<br /> [[Image:Soviet soldier-F-1 hg-4tp.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet soldier (left) with [[F-1 hand grenade]]s in his belt.]]<br /> [[Image:Polish soldier-F-1 hg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Polish soldier playing with a hand grenade.]]<br /> <br /> == Model 24 Stielhandgranate ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:24-43_grenade.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|Model 24 Stielhandgranate]]<br /> [[Image:German soldier-M24 Shg-4tp.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|none|German soldiers eqipped by a [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]]s.]]<br /> [[Image:Wieslaw Golas-Model 24 Stielhandgranate.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|none|Pvt. Tomek awakened the crew of &quot;Rudy&quot; by a hand grenade.]]<br /> [[Image:Barbara Krafftówna-M24 shg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|none|Honorata (Barbara Krafftówna) throws a hand grenades at the Germans one by one.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-Model 24 shg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|none|Cpl. Gustaw Jeleń safety catch off a hand grenade.]]<br /> <br /> = Others =<br /> <br /> ==OSP-30 Flare Pistol==<br /> [[Image:OSP-30.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Russian OSP-30 Flare Pistol 26.5mm]]<br /> [[Image:Tadeusz Kailinowski-Kamfpistole Z.jpg|none|thumb|500px|Colonel Tadeusz gives the signal to launch an attack with [[OSP-30 Flare Pistol]].]]<br /> <br /> == Kampfpistole Z ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:German_flare.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|German Flare Gun 1944 No. 2]]<br /> [[Image:German officer-Kampfpistole Z-4tp.jpg‎|none|thumb|500px|The officer fired from [[Kampfpistole Z]] on a car driven by Cpl. Jelen.]]<br /> <br /> == Panzerfaust ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Panzerfaust.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Panzerfaust - 44mm with 149mm warhead]]<br /> [[Image:German soldier-Panzerfaust-4tp.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|German soldier lurking on the tank &quot;Rudy&quot; with a [[Panzerfaust]] at bridge.]]<br /> [[Image:Franciszek Pieczka-Panzerfaust.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Jeleń (Franciszek Pieczka) using by a Panzerfaust openned the water tank.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Television]]<br /> [[Category:War]]<br /> [[Category:Adventure Movie]]<br /> [[Category:Polish Produced/Filmed]]</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577719 2012-06-15T21:14:50Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. :(( Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:14, 15 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577715 2012-06-15T21:14:20Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action :( --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:14, 15 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577706 2012-06-15T21:07:52Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action :( Flexo</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577705 2012-06-15T21:07:35Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> : Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. Putin's &quot;state capitalism&quot; in action:( Flexo</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577702 2012-06-15T21:06:59Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> :Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. Putin's state capitalism in action:( Flexo</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Molot-Oruzhie&diff=577700 2012-06-15T21:06:16Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Is this a PRIVATE company? or a state run weapons factory? mpm<br /> <br /> :Formally, this is a public company (JSC). But in fact, more than 90% of the shares controlled by two companies. These companies are state owned. Putin's state capitalism in action :( Flexo</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK_Gallery&diff=538538 2012-03-27T13:04:21Z

<p>Flexo: /* RPD, AN-94, SVD/Tiger */</p> <hr /> <div>Um...This seems a little too broad, what are the Dragunov and AS Val doing on a page about AK variants? I doubt even the average non-gunny moviegoer is going to look at an SVD and think it's an AK, though the average journalist might. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:44, 27 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == RPD, AN-94, SVD/Tiger ==<br /> <br /> RPD, AN-94 and SVD/Tiger is not versions of AK! Please, READ MORE!!! You can find info for example in Wikipedia. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 07:08, 27 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> : As well as VSS Vintorez, AS Val, AEK-971, Sa. Vz. 58. [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 15:53, 27 March 2012 (EET)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK_Gallery&diff=538536 2012-03-27T12:11:38Z

<p>Flexo: /* RPD, AN-94, SVD/Tiger */</p> <hr /> <div>Um...This seems a little too broad, what are the Dragunov and AS Val doing on a page about AK variants? I doubt even the average non-gunny moviegoer is going to look at an SVD and think it's an AK, though the average journalist might. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:44, 27 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == RPD, AN-94, SVD/Tiger ==<br /> <br /> RPD, AN-94 and SVD/Tiger is not versions of AK! Please, READ MORE!!! You can find info, for example, in Wikipedia. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 07:08, 27 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK_Gallery&diff=538535 2012-03-27T12:10:23Z

<p>Flexo: /* AN-94, SVD/Tiger */</p> <hr /> <div>Um...This seems a little too broad, what are the Dragunov and AS Val doing on a page about AK variants? I doubt even the average non-gunny moviegoer is going to look at an SVD and think it's an AK, though the average journalist might. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:44, 27 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == RPD, AN-94, SVD/Tiger ==<br /> <br /> RPD, AN-94 and SVD/Tiger is not versions of AK! Please, READ MORE!!! --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 07:08, 27 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK_Gallery&diff=538534 2012-03-27T12:08:49Z

<p>Flexo: /* AN-94, SVD/Tiger */</p> <hr /> <div>Um...This seems a little too broad, what are the Dragunov and AS Val doing on a page about AK variants? I doubt even the average non-gunny moviegoer is going to look at an SVD and think it's an AK, though the average journalist might. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:44, 27 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == AN-94, SVD/Tiger ==<br /> <br /> AN-94 and SVD/Tiger is not versions of AK !!!! --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 07:08, 27 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK_Gallery&diff=538533 2012-03-27T12:08:33Z

<p>Flexo: /* AN-94, SVD/Tiger */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>Um...This seems a little too broad, what are the Dragunov and AS Val doing on a page about AK variants? I doubt even the average non-gunny moviegoer is going to look at an SVD and think it's an AK, though the average journalist might. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:44, 27 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == AN-94, SVD/Tiger ==<br /> <br /> AN-94, SVD/Tiger is not versions of AK !!!! --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 07:08, 27 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dawns_Here_are_Quiet_(A_zori_zdes_tikhie),_The&diff=532499 2012-03-15T07:05:26Z

<p>Flexo: /* about KPV and aircraft */</p> <hr /> <div>==Color? or Black &amp; White?==<br /> What's the deal here? Is this a COLOR movie? or a Black &amp; White movie? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 13 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> : Wartime scenes are Black &amp; White. Other episodes are colored [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 01:57, 14 March 2012 (CST)<br /> ::Since much of the movie is filmed in B&amp;W I'm listing that as one of the categories. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:36, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> The film is black and white, just going past (memories) JSU color. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 13:00, 14 March 2012 (CET)<br /> <br /> == Better screenshots ==<br /> <br /> My copy of this movie has slightly better quality. So I will change screenshots. And I want add some new screenshots. [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 22:21, 14 March 2012 (EET)<br /> <br /> == about KPV and aircraft ==<br /> <br /> :1. By the way, KPV is anachronism for 1942. <br /> :2. &quot;Sgt. Rita Osjanina (Irina Shevchuk) downed from the anti-aircraft KPV heavy machine guns the one German bomber&quot;. - not bomber, it were reconnaissance aircraft Focke-Wulf Fw 189 &quot;Uhu&quot;. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:05, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thx! Super.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 23:22, 14 March 2012 (CET)<br /> <br /> What is CDT? From you?<br /> <br /> : My english is poor, but I think CDT is &quot;Central Daylight Time&quot;. I'm from Moscow, Russia. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 02:05, 15 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dawns_Here_are_Quiet_(A_zori_zdes_tikhie),_The&diff=532366 2012-03-14T21:13:43Z

<p>Flexo: /* KPV */</p> <hr /> <div>==Color? or Black &amp; White?==<br /> What's the deal here? Is this a COLOR movie? or a Black &amp; White movie? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 13 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> : Wartime scenes are Black &amp; White. Other episodes are colored [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 01:57, 14 March 2012 (CST)<br /> ::Since much of the movie is filmed in B&amp;W I'm listing that as one of the categories. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:36, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> The film is black and white, just going past (memories) JSU color. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 13:00, 14 March 2012 (CET)<br /> <br /> == Better screenshots ==<br /> <br /> My copy of this movie has slightly better quality. So I will change screenshots. And I want add some new screenshots. [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 22:21, 14 March 2012 (EET)<br /> <br /> == about KPV and aircraft ==<br /> <br /> :1. By the way, KPV is anachronism for 1942. <br /> :2. &quot;Sgt. Rita Osjanina (Irina Shevchuk) downed from the anti-aircraft KPV heavy machine guns the one German bomber&quot;. - not bomber, it were reconnaissance aircraft Focke-Wulf Fw 189 &quot;Uhu&quot;. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:05, 14 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dawns_Here_are_Quiet_(A_zori_zdes_tikhie),_The&diff=532363 2012-03-14T21:12:39Z

<p>Flexo: /* KPV */</p> <hr /> <div>==Color? or Black &amp; White?==<br /> What's the deal here? Is this a COLOR movie? or a Black &amp; White movie? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 13 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> : Wartime scenes are Black &amp; White. Other episodes are colored [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 01:57, 14 March 2012 (CST)<br /> ::Since much of the movie is filmed in B&amp;W I'm listing that as one of the categories. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:36, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> The film is black and white, just going past (memories) JSU color. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 13:00, 14 March 2012 (CET)<br /> <br /> == Better screenshots ==<br /> <br /> My copy of this movie has slightly better quality. So I will change screenshots. And I want add some new screenshots. [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 22:21, 14 March 2012 (EET)<br /> <br /> == KPV ==<br /> <br /> :1. By the way, KPV is anachronism for 1942. <br /> :2. &quot;Sgt. Rita Osjanina (Irina Shevchuk) downed from the anti-aircraft KPV heavy machine guns the one German bomber&quot;. - not bomber. It were reconnaissance aircraft Focke-Wulf Fw 189 &quot;Uhu&quot;. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:05, 14 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dawns_Here_are_Quiet_(A_zori_zdes_tikhie),_The&diff=532362 2012-03-14T21:12:23Z

<p>Flexo: /* KPV */</p> <hr /> <div>==Color? or Black &amp; White?==<br /> What's the deal here? Is this a COLOR movie? or a Black &amp; White movie? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 13 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> : Wartime scenes are Black &amp; White. Other episodes are colored [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 01:57, 14 March 2012 (CST)<br /> ::Since much of the movie is filmed in B&amp;W I'm listing that as one of the categories. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:36, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> The film is black and white, just going past (memories) JSU color. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 13:00, 14 March 2012 (CET)<br /> <br /> == Better screenshots ==<br /> <br /> My copy of this movie has slightly better quality. So I will change screenshots. And I want add some new screenshots. [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 22:21, 14 March 2012 (EET)<br /> <br /> == KPV ==<br /> <br /> :1. By the way, KPV is anachronism for 1942. <br /> :2. &quot;Sgt. Rita Osjanina (Irina Shevchuk) downed from the anti-aircraft KPV heavy machine guns the one German bomber&quot;. - not bomber. It were reconnaissance aircraft Focke-Wulf Fw 189 &quot;Uhu&quot;. <br /> --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:05, 14 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dawns_Here_are_Quiet_(A_zori_zdes_tikhie),_The&diff=532361 2012-03-14T21:12:03Z

<p>Flexo: /* KPV */</p> <hr /> <div>==Color? or Black &amp; White?==<br /> What's the deal here? Is this a COLOR movie? or a Black &amp; White movie? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 13 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> : Wartime scenes are Black &amp; White. Other episodes are colored [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 01:57, 14 March 2012 (CST)<br /> ::Since much of the movie is filmed in B&amp;W I'm listing that as one of the categories. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:36, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> The film is black and white, just going past (memories) JSU color. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 13:00, 14 March 2012 (CET)<br /> <br /> == Better screenshots ==<br /> <br /> My copy of this movie has slightly better quality. So I will change screenshots. And I want add some new screenshots. [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 22:21, 14 March 2012 (EET)<br /> <br /> == KPV ==<br /> <br /> 1. By the way, KPV is anachronism for 1942. <br /> 2. &quot;Sgt. Rita Osjanina (Irina Shevchuk) downed from the anti-aircraft KPV heavy machine guns the one German bomber&quot;. - not bomber. It were reconnaissance aircraft Focke-Wulf Fw 189 &quot;Uhu&quot;. <br /> --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:05, 14 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dawns_Here_are_Quiet_(A_zori_zdes_tikhie),_The&diff=532360 2012-03-14T21:05:18Z

<p>Flexo: /* KPV */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Color? or Black &amp; White?==<br /> What's the deal here? Is this a COLOR movie? or a Black &amp; White movie? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 13 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> : Wartime scenes are Black &amp; White. Other episodes are colored [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 01:57, 14 March 2012 (CST)<br /> ::Since much of the movie is filmed in B&amp;W I'm listing that as one of the categories. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:36, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> The film is black and white, just going past (memories) JSU color. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] 13:00, 14 March 2012 (CET)<br /> <br /> == Better screenshots ==<br /> <br /> My copy of this movie has slightly better quality. So I will change screenshots. And I want add some new screenshots. [[User:Bednardos|Bednardos]] 22:21, 14 March 2012 (EET)<br /> <br /> == KPV ==<br /> <br /> By the way, KPV is anachronism for 1942. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 16:05, 14 March 2012 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AN-94&diff=524539 2012-02-25T15:22:23Z

<p>Flexo: /* The AN-94's unique muzzle configuration: does it work? */</p> <hr /> <div>==The AN-94's unique muzzle configuration: does it work?==<br /> <br /> A closer examination of the muzzle in the photos of this special-issue firearm will reveal that it has a very unusual muzzle attachment like a sideways figure 8. From the little I been able to read about it, this strange muzzle shape is supposed to reduce the sound signature of the AN-94's firing by shifting part of the muzzle blast's sound waves into ultrasound (much like a dog whistle does). <br /> <br /> Note: There is a difference in this case between &quot;reducing sound signature&quot; and &quot;making it safe to use without hearing protection.&quot; Just because part of the muzzle blast is shifted to ultrasound which is not detectable by most adult human ears, doesn't mean that it's much closer to hearing safe, since ultrasound can still damage one's hearing if at a high enough intensity. <br /> <br /> Has anyone actually gotten their hands on an AN-94 compared its muzzle blast volume to that of an AK-74M? Or would the Russian Special Forces be better off with traditional suppressors on threaded barrels for the AN-94 in case they want something with more range than a 9x39mm firearm can offer but with similarly low sound signature? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 10:57, 26 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : As far as I know the AN-94 have only two elite teams (brigades) - Tank and infantry. But this is just talk, nothing more. I have never seen in our (Russian) television broadcasts, or live the soldiers with these weapons. Including special forces soldiers. Special forces, like the rest of the army are equipped with different types of AK, or for special purposes, the weapon caliber 9 x 39. In the hands of our special forces is easier to see the «Accuracy International Arctic Warfare» than the AN-94.<br /> <br /> :Note: I am absolutely sure that all devices on the trunk of the AN-94 are needed to improve the accuracy of fire, but not for noise reduction.--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 09:22, 25 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I have a hard time believing that the strange &quot;sideways 8&quot; bulge along the AN-94's muzzle actually improves accuracy. If it were really that simple, wouldn't it be invented earlier and be used en masse by other assault rifle manufacturers? The &quot;bandwagon effect&quot; (where lots of people try to emulate someone's success by adopting similar techniques or products) is seen in all its unoriginal glory just by looking at how many handgun manufacturers have come out with glock-type pistols (safe-action triggers plus Glock-style striker firing). But it's also strange that no units you've seen have actually been publicly using it. Maybe they don't feel it offers enough of an improvement over the AK-74M? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 06:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That's what I found in Russian Wikipedia: “At the end of the barrel is a muzzle compensator, designed as lying horizontally &quot;Eight&quot;. This form facilitates self-cleaning in the trunk of fire” (hope that I made the correct translation). <br /> ::I think that the AN-94 just much more expensive than an AK-74. And this is the reason for its small quantity. In addition, 75% of Russian soldiers are military service for only 1 year (during the Soviet period of service for 2 years). In this situation, there is no point in changing the AK-74 to AN-94 (at least in large quantities). At the same time, professionals have any weapon that they need - from the Glock to the AWP.--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 09:22, 25 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=524537 2012-02-25T15:17:47Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are not interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::When and where did you hear that? As the AK-12 was only unveiled 2 weeks ago I doubt the Russian army has actually done any proper testing yet. Are you sure you aren't getting it mixed up with the earlier AK-200 prototype? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:14, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::: Here: http://newsru.com/russia/25jan2012/aka.html<br /> :::and here: http://newsru.com/russia/17feb2012/ak12.html<br /> ::: Because you do not read russian, I inform you about the content of this articles: Russian military demand from the manufacturer an assault rifle of OTHER design. They are convinced that АК-47 it is impossible to transform into the modern weapon by ANY modernization. But АК-12 it is only modernization of AK-47/AKM/AK-74/AK-100/AK-200 etc. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:15, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :::By the way, in this article also it is written about new pistol &quot;Strike&quot; which has a design similar with Glock. It is a pity that a photo of awful quality :( --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:41, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Yarygin_PYa&diff=522508 2012-02-19T17:44:53Z

<p>Flexo: /* Cartridge */</p> <hr /> <div>== Cartridge ==<br /> <br /> Hey, does this pistol use 9x18 or 9x19? I would think it uses the former due to it being a Russian weapon, but the article says otherwise. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 02:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :9x19mm http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg50-e.htm --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 15:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Cartridge 9 x 18 is not suitable for military use, it's long been understood in Russia. PYa designed specifically for use by 9 x 19. Moreover, this cartridge with increased powder charge. This gun is gradually replacing the Army Makarov pistol (only in 2012 started mass production for Army). I once fired from this gun (it was a civil version of PYa - MP-446 Viking with polymer frame). I did not like. The feelings it looks like a brick with the trigger. Also I heard that the army and police are dissatisfied with this gun, and we have (in Russia) to build a plant the company Beretta. So perhaps that will soon be replaced by Yarygin PYa. Instead the Russian army will receive a Beretta pistol, but is not yet clear which one. Maybe this will be a model 92FS. I apologize for my bad English. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 22:51, 6 March 2011 (MSK)<br /> <br /> == Yo page creators ==<br /> <br /> How about giving us a short background to this gun? What country makes it? A lot of us have never heard of it. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 10:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Excuse me, what have you never heard of? About Russia? Oh, you have not lost much. This is a huge ice desert. There are evil Communists drink vodka straight from the teapot, and drunk bears go along the streets. All Russian people are members of the mafia. At the same time they are working for the KGB. There are only three last names in Russia : Pushkin, Gogol and Drago. And the first name is only one (for both men and women) - Ivan. KGB agents still hate America and they dream to occupy it and force Americans to pray on the posters of Lenin. Besides that, Russia has many nuclear bombs. That's all, probably… The rest can be seen, for example, in the new American movie Red Dawn 2. Good luck. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 22:51, 6 March 2011 (MSK)<br /> <br /> == Russian Pistols by Izhmekh ==<br /> <br /> I propose that main page gets called 'Izhmekh MP pistol series' and gets combined with [[MP-444 &quot;Baghira&quot;]] page. Not so sure about [[MP-412 REX]]. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 04:31, 17 October 2011 (CDT)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Guard_(2011)&diff=522322 2012-02-19T07:52:51Z

<p>Flexo: </p> <hr /> <div>Surely the gun on the film poster is a Walther P38? Alasdair.<br /> <br /> A few extra guns: The rifle used by Don Cheadle is a [[Zastava M70B1]], the rifle in the trunk is an [[Armalite AR-18]] along with a [[Glock 19]] and a [[Beretta 92 pistol series]] of some kind. Is the rifle leaning against the wall meant to be the same gun used by Don Cheadle? If so I would say it is a replica AK-47 (not an AKM, wrong front sight) used for non firing scenes. Also, I would say that the AKs in the bag and the one in the trunk are [[Norinco Type 56|Type 56-1s]] (top gun in the bag is the same one as the trunk gun, can tell by marks on the handguard). You can't see the front sight totally but could be hooded, but the combination of stamped receiver, un-ribbed top cover, perforated gas tube and no muzzle nut points to the Type 56-1. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:42, 14 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> To answer your questions, the AK resting against the wall was meant to be the same gun being used in the shootout. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:27, 14 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :The one leaning against the wall isn't a Zastava, as it has the regular two vent handguard and doesn't have the grenade sight. In that case would guess it is a non firing replica, so would probably call it an AK-47 replica. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:30, 15 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Regardless of all the AK variants this was one funny movie. Over course it's over the top, but it also nailed the weirdness of police work - even if it is an Irish movie. There are certain aspects to the profession that are the same pretty much where ever you are. Funny stuff. I can also tell you that I work with seveal guys who would hate this movie. No sense of humor I guess. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 13:09, 16 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :: Absolutely agree. Saw this movie twice. Very funny. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 01:52, 19 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=519620 2012-02-11T19:41:34Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are not interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::When and where did you hear that? As the AK-12 was only unveiled 2 weeks ago I doubt the Russian army has actually done any proper testing yet. Are you sure you aren't getting it mixed up with the earlier AK-200 prototype? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:14, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::: Here: http://newsru.com/russia/25jan2012/aka.html<br /> ::: Because you do not read russian, I inform you about the content of this article: Russian military demand from the manufacturer an assault rifle of OTHER design. They are convinced that АК-47 it is impossible to transform into the modern weapon by ANY modernization. But АК-12 it is only modernization of AK-47/AKM/AK-74/AK-100/AK-200 etc. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:15, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :::By the way, in this article also it is written about new pistol &quot;Strike&quot; which has a design similar with Glock. It is a pity that a photo of awful quality :( --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:41, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=519619 2012-02-11T19:41:02Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are not interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::When and where did you hear that? As the AK-12 was only unveiled 2 weeks ago I doubt the Russian army has actually done any proper testing yet. Are you sure you aren't getting it mixed up with the earlier AK-200 prototype? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:14, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::: Here: http://newsru.com/russia/25jan2012/aka.html<br /> ::: Because you do not read russian, I inform you about the content of this article: Russian military demand from the manufacturer an assault rifle of OTHER design. They are convinced that АК-47 it is impossible to transform into the modern weapon by ANY modernization. But АК-12 it is only modernization of AK-47/AKM/AK-74/AK-100/AK-200 etc. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:15, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :::By the way, in this article also it is written about new pistol &quot;Strike&quot; which has a design similar on Glock. It is a pity that a photo of awful quality :( --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:41, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=519612 2012-02-11T19:36:55Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are not interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::When and where did you hear that? As the AK-12 was only unveiled 2 weeks ago I doubt the Russian army has actually done any proper testing yet. Are you sure you aren't getting it mixed up with the earlier AK-200 prototype? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:14, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::: Here: http://newsru.com/russia/25jan2012/aka.html<br /> ::: Because you do not read russian, I inform you about the content of this article: Russian military demand from the manufacturer an assault rifle of OTHER design. They are convinced that АК-47 it is impossible to transform into the modern weapon by ANY modernization. But АК-12 it is only modernization of AK-47/AKM/AK-74/AK-100/AK-200 etc. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:15, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=519606 2012-02-11T19:34:28Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are not interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::When and where did you hear that? As the AK-12 was only unveiled 2 weeks ago I doubt the Russian army has actually done any proper testing yet. Are you sure you aren't getting it mixed up with the earlier AK-200 prototype? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:14, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::: Here: http://newsru.com/russia/25jan2012/ak12.html<br /> ::: Because you do not read russian, I inform you about the content of this article: Russian military demand from the manufacturer an assault rifle of OTHER design. They are convinced that АК-47 it is impossible to transform into the modern weapon by ANY modernization. But АК-12 it is only modernization of AK-47/AKM/AK-74/AK-100/AK-200 etc. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:15, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=519604 2012-02-11T19:33:07Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are not interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::When and where did you hear that? As the AK-12 was only unveiled 2 weeks ago I doubt the Russian army has actually done any proper testing yet. Are you sure you aren't getting it mixed up with the earlier AK-200 prototype? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:14, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::: Here: http://newsru.com/russia/25jan2012/ak12.html<br /> ::: Because you do not read russian, I inform you about the content of this article: Russian military demand from the manufacturer an assault rifle of OTHER design. They are convinced that АК-47 it is impossible to transform into the modern weapon by ANY modernization. And АК-12 it only modernization. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:15, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=519581 2012-02-11T19:16:18Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are not interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::When and where did you hear that? As the AK-12 was only unveiled 2 weeks ago I doubt the Russian army has actually done any proper testing yet. Are you sure you aren't getting it mixed up with the earlier AK-200 prototype? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:14, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::: Here: http://newsru.com/russia/25jan2012/ak12.html<br /> ::: Because you do not read Russian, I inform you about the content of this article: Military demand from the manufacturer an assault rifle of OTHER design. They are convinced that АК-47 it is impossible to transform into the modern weapon by ANY modernization. And АК-12 it only modernization. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:15, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=519580 2012-02-11T19:15:41Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are not interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::When and where did you hear that? As the AK-12 was only unveiled 2 weeks ago I doubt the Russian army has actually done any proper testing yet. Are you sure you aren't getting it mixed up with the earlier AK-200 prototype? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:14, 11 February 2012 (CST)<br /> ::: Here: http://newsru.com/russia/25jan2012/ak12.html<br /> ::: Because you do not read Russian, I inform you about the content of this article. Military demand from the manufacturer an assault rifle of OTHER design. They are convinced that АК-47 it is impossible to transform into the modern weapon by ANY modernization. And АК-12 it only modernization. --[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 13:15, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=519494 2012-02-11T14:24:09Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are not interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:AK-12&diff=519493 2012-02-11T14:23:30Z

<p>Flexo: /* Really? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Additional Variants ==<br /> <br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x39mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x39mm]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 5.56x45mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]<br /> [[File:Ak-12 7.62x51mm.jpg|thumb|500px|none|AK-12 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br /> <br /> <br /> == What an ugly AK ==<br /> <br /> How can they go from the sleek beauty that was the AK47 and end up with this? It looks hideous. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:13, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> :Is beauty really a criteria you have for rifles? The AK-12 ''is'' a military rifle after all, and I don't think the Russian military compare guns using how good it looks as a category. In my world, it doesn't matter how ugly a gun is, if it does it's job well, it's welcomed with open arms. Also, was the AK-47 really that good-looking? It looked a bit plain to me. User:Alasdair<br /> ::Although, as you say, how it looks is largely irrelevant for a military weapon, I actually quite like the look of it compared to traditional AKs. I've never understood people's love for the look of the AK-47. If it was released now, it would be derided as an aesthetic and ergonomic abomination. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:34, 10 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> Is this really a new AK variant, or is it still an experimental weapon?--Gunner5<br /> :The one labelled as AK-200 was the prototype, the AK-12 is supposedly the production model and is currently being field tested. I wouldn't be surprised though if it was never actually adopted, like all of the other &quot;replacements&quot; for the AK-74. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:33, 9 February 2012 (CST)<br /> Russian military has already said that they are interested in the AK12. They want to get a brand new rifle, which will be as accurate as the M4 or G36--[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 08:23, 11 February 2012 (CST)</div>

Flexo