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Talk:Executive Decision

2013-11-03T02:25:04Z

Ello again:

eh, what the hell. I'll do this one, too. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
:Ok, running into computer complications. This one might take a while. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

==Done==

Whew! I didn't expect this one to take me so long. 1990s action movies tend to be relatively straightforward and easy (which is why I do so many of them), but this one took close to 3 hours for some reason. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::I've had that happen to me as well. Great work, the page came out excellent. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::Thanks. But for a page that only has 14 guns listed, it's just...surprising. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Excellent work, It came out nice. It's nice to finally have this page screencapped and completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:23, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

:MT, beautiful! I also found it funny that you got the exact same pictures that i did! Thanks for taking it when i couldnt. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

==from page (AK)==

::These are not AKMS rifles when they have the .75" front sight. They have the vent holes on the gas tube body like the AK47/Type 56. The AKMS would have a solid Gas tube and only vent holes on the gas block, which these guns don't have. Also they have smooth, not ribbed dust covers and smooth, not riveted under folder stocks. They are probably Norinco Type 56-1 rifles with the front sight hood shaved off and the AKM style front wood grips installed. MPM2008

:::Point taken on the stocks; I forgot to look at that. The very first picture (and the third) however, do clearly show AKMS - the front sights are the correct .5" type, and the gas blocks are AKM-style. I guess the other weapons are probably Type 56-1s with AK-47 style front sights, and then AKM muzzle breaks, grips, and receiver covers added. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Anybody know Seagal's knife, used in the opening scene of the film?

== Found a new pistol ==

While watching this I just saw a previously unnoticed pistol carried by Seagal in a chest holster during the opening scene:
[[File:Executive Decision pistol 1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:Executive Decision pistol 2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
[[File:Executive Decision pistol 3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
I think it is a later model [[High Standard HDM]] with adjustable sights, but I'm not 100% sure as the quality on my DVD is pretty crappy:
[[File:HIghStandardMod106.jpg|thumb|350px|none|High Standard Model 106 Military with standard length heavy target barrel and target sights) - .22 LR]]
Does anyone have the Bluray to get a better shot of this? Also, is there a deleted scene or something where this pistol is actually used, or at least drawn? I wonder because it seems like a very odd pistol to have as an incidental prop (my assumption that it is suppressed or at least depicted as such for taking out sentries), and it is not a case that at this location they did not have access to the 1911 he has later, as all the other soldiers in this scene have the same 1911. Also, I believe that the British version of this (mine) has some scenes trimmed for violence and to get rid of some of the scenes about religious fundamentalism, so something relevant could be cut from my version. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:25, 28 November 2012 (EST)

==Soldiers mis-identifying guns==
I updated the intro part of the Skorpion section where there are a few lines about the special forces soldiers mis-identifying the terrorists armament. It claims that "Leguizamo mis-identifies the Skorpions' calibers as 9mm, rather than .32 ACP". However could it be that Captain Rat actually claimed to see the terrorists equipped also with a 9mm sidearm? This would make more sense in Grant's notes: "Skorpion/9mm, AKM/FNC" [[User:Ristipiste|Ristipiste]] ([[User talk:Ristipiste|talk]]) 12:18, 15 May 2013 (EDT)

:Watched the movie again. He says "9mm Skorpions". I am guessing that the screenplay called for him to distinguish between the Skorpions and the 9mms (Glocks) used by the terrorists (maybe he was supposed to say "9mms '''and''' Skorpions"), but John Leguizamo, not being a gun guy, screwed up his dialogue and conflated the two types of weapons as one type. I suspect that this is also why he screws up the identity of the weapons held by the terrorists in the forward cabin (calling them "Skorpions" even though they are AKMS rifles). Of course, the scenes with Russell typing the weapon IDs into his computer were probably filmed separately, which gave them time to correct the mistakes. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 20:32, 9 September 2013 (EDT)

==HK USP==

The HK USP that Kurt Russel carries looks to have the rear sight mounted backwards, you can see it in the second picture down. Is that right? --[[User:Ello again|Ello again]] ([[User talk:Ello again|talk]]) 22:25, 2 November 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Grimm - Season 2

2013-09-19T21:37:51Z

Ello again: Created page with "'''Unknown Pistol''' I am pretty sure that the unknown pistol, the one in the yellow tarp picture is a HK USP. I based this on the shape of the trigger guard and the iconic H..."

'''Unknown Pistol'''

I am pretty sure that the unknown pistol, the one in the yellow tarp picture is a HK USP. I based this on the shape of the trigger guard and the iconic HK mag release that you can see in the picture. --[[User:Ello again|Ello again]] ([[User talk:Ello again|talk]]) 17:37, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Grimm

2012-02-28T04:36:45Z

Ello again: /* Sniper rifles */

==S&W 5906==
The screenshots doesn't look any like a S&W 5906, there is a screw in the upper part of the grip,
and the slide have no safety at all, also the trigger looks to high up.

Trigger guard and grip looks as they are both black, more like you would see on a STI or SVI. Rob the Fiend

: If you got info on the supposed pistol's name, let me know. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 00:15, 7 January 2012 (CST)

==Shotgun==
I think the shotgun is more likely a Mossberg 500. The "bolt" on the 870 is rounder, rather than flat in the picture. Also, the 870's safety is missing. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:35, 11 December 2011 (CST)

== Sniper rifles ==

In let your hair down, the two hunters rifles are a Ruger scout rifle, and, I think, a steyr scout. You can even see in one scene that both are outfitted with scout scopes.--[[User:Ello again|Ello again]] 22:36, 27 February 2012 (CST)

Talk:Justified

2012-02-23T20:02:15Z

Ello again: /* Glock 21 */

==Screencapping==
Does anybody plan on screencaping this? I got the dvds in my Netflix queue. But if someone has purchased the series it would be a lot easier for them. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

this is a realy good show and i would like to give it a proper page so if any one is interested drop me a line on the talk page on my user page. --[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

==Commander or Officers size 1911?==
So what gun does Raylin use to shoot Boyd in the chest with?
:He did a brass check on it in the motel room. It looked like a Commander model. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:41, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
::I watched the scene again, it's an Officers size. Could be a Kimber. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

==Miami gun==
This screen-cap of the gun Raylin uses at the table in Miami at the start of the episode does NOT look like a SIG Sauer P226. It has large square front end, the possibly after-market spring guide rod is stainless and rather large hex; the grip flares above the hand. Other details are a little hard to distinguish, but I think the ID for this prop gun is still unknown. Ideas?
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3390/snapshot20100318023606.png
--[[Special:Contributions/24.8.253.46|24.8.253.46]] 22:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see double stack bulges either. I'm going to covert that pic to JPEG and put it on the main page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:JT-SIG.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
::Here is the pic converted. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

:::This doesn't look like a real SIG to me; it looks like one of the SIG [["Non Guns"]]:

:::[[Image:SIGnon-gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG-Sauer Non Gun]]

:::-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Perfect! Here's an animated image I took off the ep. It clearly shows that it's a non-gun. That's why it looks kind of funny, a little like a Glock, some of the parts don't match, and it's way too simplified. Classic non-gun. Given that I think we're fine leaving it as a Sig Sauer P226. And we have another image to add to the non-gun page.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6461/justifiednongun.gif
--[[Special:Contributions/24.8.253.46|24.8.253.46]] 02:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::EXCELLENT! Yes, that tell tale "poof" of the flame and the smoke lacks the 'blast' of a real blank. It's definitely an ISS non-gun. Just remember to list it on the NON gun page as well as the actor page (along with this page). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

:::''Given that I think we're fine leaving it as a Sig Sauer P226.''

:::Nope, if it's a Non Gun, then it should be designated as such, and not as a SIG P226. We are trying to be an accurate as possible. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

well first , at the end of "fire in the hole" , at the end he says " a SIG P two twenty six" simmons 8492

As a gun lover and collector for many years, I think I'll chime in with my .02cents the gun appears to be a sig p6 which would be a modern p226 just the single stack earlier version, I highly disbelieve is to be a "non gun' as there is no separation in slide as the image above shows, guide rods are often changed, as I have changed the ones in my carry sig as well.

If you watch the scene it is very very obviously a non gun. There is no movement from the slide and it has the little puff of smoke the non guns do. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:18, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

==The Promo Gun==
I'm not sure if this related to the topic above but, on the Promo shot for the show, show on the original page on this site, the Sig that he is aiming has quite a large bore aperture. Considering this penchant for larger caliber Automatics, I think it could possibly be a Sig p220 in .45 ACP. Thoughts anyone?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 17:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

which trailer?.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

On the main article for this site. It is possibly the lens that was used.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 03:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

==End of first episode==
Seriously? They killed the main antagonist in the first episode, now what?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:21, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

He didn't fucking die dude. Raylen just wounded him instead of killing him instantly. He'll be back.-ArmoredMason619

He was alive when they put him in the ambulance and he is on the next episode.-Spades of Columbia

But he took a .45 slug and a load of buckshot to the chest! I bet next episode he's going to be perfectly fine (stupid television)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

She missed, no buckshot to the chest. The have already shown he's in the hurt box but alive. FX tends to be on the level with violence.

He wasn't perfectly fine the next episode. He was in a hospital bed with little movement possible and a button where he can control pain meds. He isn't fine. And just because he was shot with a .45 in the chest doesn't mean much if Raylan didn't hit his heart or lungs. But it did knock the guy down and out of the fight. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 17:46, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Givens shot Boyd centermass, so it's understood from the dialogue of the other characters that Givens missed the heart on purpose out of some sense of loyalty to Boyd. And if you would pay close enough attention to the dialogue and not just the action, many of these simple questions are answered.

He Says , adn i quote "at glenco , didnt you teach those recruts to aim for the heart?" just the fact that Raylan pulled a one handed pull,and was able to miss intentionaly is a sign of intence training.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]
:On the dvd commentary, the creators said Boyd was supposed to die. He tested well and when the series got picked up, they brought him back. The scene of him being loaded into the ambulance was added after it was picked up. You could also argue, since Givens had to fire from the hip he couldn't his mark as well.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

:i like that they kept byod alive. hes a good oposite to raylan. but he was in the hospital for a while, he doesnt get released til the forth or fifth episode. enough tim to heal.--[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

==Glock==
I believe that Raylen is carrying a glock 22 and a glock 27 in the second episode. He even makes a reference to The Fugative as he is a US Marshal. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

I have yet to get a good enough look at what Type/style/Brand of holster Raylin draws from. Can anyone identify the holster or at least get a good picture of it? [[Spades of Columbia]]

The holster appears to be a Bianchi 59 Special Agent Holster.

In S1.Ep.10 Raylen tells the judge the he carries a .45 Glock. Wouldn't that make it a 21?
:Just because that's what he says in the show doesn't make it so. The muzzle is what most use to determine what type of Glock, if there isn't a good view of the slide. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but he's saying its a .45 Glock. Now, it could be a G21 or a G37 if it's chambered in .45 GAP -burgershot621

Yeah...because it would be completely normal for a Southern Marshal to carry a .45gap, it would be a ACP if anything. [[Spades Of Columbia]]

In the episode, Raylen states he is carrying a .45 caliber glock. If it were a .45 GAP, he would say GAP. The .45 GAP is farely new, so it is understood that the character is carrying a .45 ACP, seeing as how the majority of the viewers may not be gun hounds like ourselves.-Mr. Peapobdy

Someone has now added the Glock 31 to the page. I'm starting to thing Glock sponsored this show just to advertize their product line.

Alot of the glocks on this page are speculative. For example just because a character on the show verbally says he's using a 45 doesnt mean he is using a real life Glock 21, he might say 45 but is filmed with a glock 17 or 19. Also just because it looks like a .357 sig cartridge doesnt mean its a Model 31 or 32, it might mean that he is using a model 22 with a necked and crimped blank round. They can also use the same gun in multiply seens with diffrent people...for all we know right now they can be passing the same Glock 17 and 26 to all the characters and call them diffrent calibers. [[Spades of Columbia]]

I would have thought an Old School Marshall Southern boy like Givens would use something different to a Glock like a 1911 or even a revolver. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:40, 22 April 2011 (CDT)

==Kentucky==
: As a former resident of Kentucky, I find Raylin's remarks about having to go back to KY hilarious. It is clearly obvious that he doesn't want to be there, and if you've ever had to live there you'll know exactly why-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think everyone feels that way about one's home state. Besides, there're bad places almost everywhere. Ever been to the backwoods of Florida? It's just like this show.--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 04:51, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Don't see why he complains so much. I've lived in Kentucky my whole life. I love this place.

==Bulletville==
: Though you'll only see it for a glimpse, it seems as though Ava is using a USPc near the end of the episode, in the cabin. Perhaps Raylan switched his BUG, or just a pick up. Just an added note. [[GWHYSOW]]

I'm not sure where the USP came from, I think Raylan disarmed Bo's thug of it.
Other Weapons were the Revolver & Sniper Rifle used by Boyd. Two other badguys used AK rifles.

I believe the USP came from Bo's guy that was watching Ava in the cabin, then Boyd came through the back door and killed him at which point i believe Ava got the dead man's weapon. [[Spades of Columbia]]

you're right, the USP came from one of Bo's thugs. raylan finishes the fight with his back-up -burgershot621
==Moved from main page==
I hate seeing discussions on the main page do here. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
===Glock 26===
[[Image:Glock 26.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Glock 26 subcompact Pistol - 9x19mm]]
The Glock 26 is a subcompact pistol chambered for 9x19mm.

In episode 2 Marshal Givens is asked to drop both his gun and his backup. If his primary gun is a Glock 17 or 19 it would make sense that his backup is a Glock 26. Then you have mag and ammo compatibility.

-He states that his primary is a .45 Glock. No .45 Glock is this small so it stands to reason that this would be a 9mm because of Armor safety issues. There's no need for it to be a .357. However, from the size, it could easily be a Glock 33 in .357 sig or a Glock 27 in .40 S&W.

(Regarding statement above about there not being a .45 glock in that size) If you don't know anything about glocks, which you obviously don't, keep your statements off the internet. The glock 30 is a compact .45 glock. In the episode "the hammer" he states he has a .45 glock, which means he has...a .45 glock!! Pay closer attention and think before you type on a website that gun-nut cops (such as myself) visit on a daily basis.

If you seriously think that that SUB COMPACT weapon shown below is a Glock 30, then you've never held one. As a Glock 30 is a smaller COMPACT weapon. My personal belief that this is very likely the Glock 39 in .45 GAP, it's size difference being almost negligable when compared to the glock Glock 26. This show obviously seems to be marketing for glock and it stands to reason that his full size weapon is a Glock 37, also in .45 GAP. So keep your big man mouth to yourself mr "cop."--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 15:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I think that we can all agree that this anon "cop" is just some random kid who's parents don't love him enough.. also, my uncle carries a Glock 37, and off duty he carries a Glock 39.. both are chambered in .45 GAP. Oh, and really quick, "gun-nut cop," if you really were a cop you would know not to tell everyone on the internet, and you would have learned how to control your temper. -PunisherDave

You can clearly see it is not the Glock 30, if you've ever held one. The frame size alone is far too small, Glock 30 holds 10 .45 ACP, the 39 only 6 in GAP. My first statement was that no weapon is ".45 Glock is this small" and while it isn't true, I had considered the Glock 30 a outright saw that this weapon is too small. I also wouldn't carry a Glock 30 in an ankle holster, I believe that's where he kept it.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 00:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to correct myself, I don't think this is a Glock 39, I'm pretty sure that the Glock 39 comes with the newer Slide release, the weapon pictured doesn't.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 02:32, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:justified_glock26.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marshal Givens is asked to drop his backup gun in Episode 2. Looks like a Glock 26. It has the mag boot on it.]]

Could be a 36. Course I'm bad at identifing Glocks. They should show the slide at some point in every show/movie that has Glocks in it, to make the lives of us gun nuts easier. Also, he kept it in the small of his back.-AC

===Glock 21===
In S1E10, The Hammer, Raylan Givens tells a judge he is assigned to protect that he carries a ".45 caliber Glock" making his sidearm a Glock model 21.
[[Image:Glock21.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]

-Possibly a Short Frame model.

Very possibly a Glock 37 in .45 GAP.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 15:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I love how when I suggest that he might be carrying a glock in .45 GAP it's shot down, but the theory has resurfaced numerious times after and now it seems like a credible option for a U.S. Marshall to be carrying one. --burgershot621

I can't think of a Reason why it couldn't be one. He specifically states its a .45 and glock would want to market it over the 21, surely.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 18:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

For the love of God its a tv show...just because a character says he is shooting a .45 does not mean that the shows armour handed the actor a .45 to act with. Number one, where and why would a movie/tv armour buy all but dead calibered hand guns like the 45GAP...and two why would a small town law enforcement agent carrie a hard to get ammoed firearm like the 45gap.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:40, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Then by your comment, why do we discuss anything at all on this website? Everything on here is just a movie, t.v. show, or video game. Number one, .45GAP is anything but dead, and U.S. Marshals aren't small town law enforcement. It's a federal law enforcment agency that is part of the executive branch. Doesn't sound small time to me, and sounds like it could stand to reason that it would use a specialized caliber such as .45 GAP. - Burgershot621

Kinda hard to call it a dead caliber when the entire the Georgia State Patrol carry Glock's in 45GAP.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

In the commercial world Yes the 45GAP is dead in the water...Glock themselves are unloading them in hope of getting rid of them at a lower fee, I can buy any model of 45Gap for atleast 20% less then any other model of glock ...because there is NO public demand. Yes, a couple state patrols got bamboozled into issueing them...but do you really think a movie armorer will go out of their way to special order a 45GAP for a TV show and then get specialized blanks for the 45gap..or do you think it is more logical to give the actors another model of glock and just put in the script that it is a 45.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 20:38, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

dunno, there's been some speculation as to the plethora of glocks shown in this show, such as maybe a product placement deal? who knows. i mean, the last time i looked at the actual page it was listed that raylen used a glock in .357 Sig. Why would he switch from a 9mm, to a .357, to a .45ACP? Just something to think about and no one said that the .45 was definately .45 GAP. its just speculation and is not beyond the realm of possibility...

goodwin's law.

In the commercial world? If you are going by the commercial world then the round would have to be no longer produced by any manufacturer to be dead. Federal, Magtech, Remington, Winchester, and Speer are major producers of ammunition and they still see fit to produce the .45 GAP. If major suppliers of ammunition are still producing a round, then it can't be considered dead in the water. As for .45 GAP Glock's being cheaper, its called supply and demand. The .45 GAP was forgotten by a lot of writers when Springfield Armory made their XD in .45 ACP. The same could be said about the .357 Sig. Except for Law Enforcement Agencies, not a lot of people carry or own a .357 Sig. Where I am, pistols chambered in the .357 Sig are somewhat cheaper than .40S&W, .45ACP or 9mm. They is not a great demand so suppliers are focusing more on popular models. I have cousins and know a lot of Georgia State Patrolmen. They didn't get bamboozled into the .45 GAP. They like it. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 23:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Seeing as how Para Ordnance had Springfield have decided to create 1911s and XD's chambered for .45 GAP, the round is anything but dead.---[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 00:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

In my store we have 6 types of .357 sig, 5 types of 10mm, 2 types of .327 federal...Hell we even have RCM ammo in stock. But not one box of 45 GAP, not one gun chambered in .45 GAP. All my suppliers from MT to Acusport to gunarama to ellett brothers tell me they cant give the .45GAPs away because they sit on the shelf and collect dust because nobody wants them. The ammo is becoming more and more low production similiar to the .32 H&R mag and .38 short colt ammo. Springfield DID chamber the XD in 45 gap but dropped it because NOBODY was buying them...and just try to find a Springfield 1911 in a 45 gap (they talked about it in 2005 but i never saw one). If my memory serves me right i think PARA chambers in a 9x23 so if they do do a 45gap it is meaningless for the caliber and anyway they dont do it anymore. AND Finally, If someone gave me a free 45 gap and my job supplied me with all the 45gap ammo i could shot (like the Georgia State patrol) I would most likely say that i like the caliber too...but that does not mean i would go buy my own ammo and my own personal gun in that caliber. All my customers that bought the 45gap back in the day thinking it would be cool all grew to regret it and are now trying to sell them without lossing their shirt in the deal. I call it dead because it will have no more growth, production will never be higher then the previous year...I am not yet calling the 45GAP a wildcat--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:01, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

soo back to the original point of this...it is possible that givens would have a .45 GAP glock if it was issued to him...--[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 01:56, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

The character Givens in theory could be issued a 45 gap in script form...but it is very unlikely that Timothy Olyphant physically has a .45 GAP in his hands in filming.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

One of the old teaser trailers had a few good close-ups of the Glock. "17" and "9x19" were both clear on the slide. It may not necessarily be the same one used for filming the episodes, but it seems pretty likely. [[User:Gato|Gato]] 19:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, it was pure speculation, based upon the scene we see. If we are going go over this "9mm are easier to blank fire" thing EVERYTIME a glock is mentioned, then this site is going to get very boring. There are many incidents of a director or actor wanting the specific weapon because a person or persons they base their character on, or them just liking a certain caliber. Also, gun companies often use tv or movies to advertise their weapons or calibers or new equipment, if a character often mentions the exact caliber or model number of their weapon, it's reasonable to assume that this is the case.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 00:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

It has to be a 21, I just finished watching the whole series and Raylan always fires 13 rounds before reloading, the promo art and the uk box shows a wide bore on the barrel. Coupling this with him telling the judge he uses a 'glock in 45' and tha fact the 45gap glock only has a ten round capacity i think its safe to say its a 21--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:31, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Ok here is my take on this whole discussion as I just finished reading all the posts going back and forth about what Glock he is carrying. Glocks are very difficult to identify on film without a clear image of the slide and model numbers on them. I think if a character says in a show/film that they are carrying a 45 Glock then unless you have a screen cap of the gun proving otherwise then it should be posted as such. This isn't a case like the movie Kiss the Girls where the character says "pick up the Glock" and the gun is clearly not a Glock. Or A Few Good Men when the character says a "nickle plated 45" and the gun in question is a 9mm Beretta. It should also be noted that the 2 most common calibers for blankadapted firearms are both 9mm AND 45acp. That is because the standard pressures of the round can be low enough to be safe to the actors while still alowing the gun to function properly. 40s&w and 357sig are higher pressure/power rounds and therefore not likely to be blank adapted for use in film. The 45gap is a lower power 45 so it is possible but the brass and ammo for them tend to cost more. Just IMHO... if the guy says it is a 45 Glock and he is in fact carrying a Glock (which should be easy to identify for all of us gun nuts) then it should be posted as such and not what we "think" it is because it is "unlikely" the actor was handed what he says he has.--[[User:Ram229|Ram229]] 02:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Just watched episode 3 (working my way through the series) and it looks like his Glock is a 9mm. There's a bit where he is talking about drawing and when he draws his Glock it is pointed right at the camera and the bore looks too small to be a .45. It appears to be the a 9mm size.--[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:32, 23 April 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:JustGlockBore.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]

The bore size of the Glock looks to me to be a 9mm but I can't be 100% sure. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 05:26, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

It is a Glock 17 at least in certain episodes of season 2 and 3 you can clearly see the 17 and 9x19 on the side of it. Somebody also said that it was confirmed in "GLOCK Autopistols Magazine" in the section "Box office GLOCKs" This section of the magazine can not be trusted for verification as it has misidentified GLOCKs in numerous media sources. Most famously Heath Ledgers modified Glock 17 from The Dark knight, which they identified as a GLOCK 18.

If you could please specify what episodes you saw the closeup of the Glock in and please sign your posts, ello by clicking the signature button (next to last button at the top). --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:45, 23 February 2012 (CST)

1st season: Bulletville, and even in The Hammer at the end you can see the 17, Season 2: I only noticed it in Bloody Harlan, Season 3: Cut ties, and When The Guns Come out, in this one you can even see he has Glock night sights on it. Sorry about the signature...--[[User:Ello again|Ello again]] 14:02, 23 February 2012 (CST)

==Arts Sig==
in the piolt, art uses a sig to fire at the two fat neo-nazis. it says its a P226, but it looks to compact to be a 226. id say 228 or 229 --[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

==Fixer Guns==
Anyone care to id the guns used in that episode by the bad guys?

== Raylen's Glock ==
(moved form main page) In one commercial promoting the show, Raylan is hiding around a corner and points his sidearm at the head of Boyd Crowder. From an enhanced still frame, the slide clearly shows both "17" and "9x19." Also, the barrel on his fullsize GLOCK is of 9mm diameter, and the grip frame is not large enough to be the GLOCK 21, which is often claimed as a result of Raylan's single reference to his carrying that firearm. No matter what his claim, the gun physically in his hands is a GLOCK 17.

After watching the entire series i have kept an eye on Raylens Glock. although he seems to carry at least two throughout the series i can say with some degree of certainty that he doesnt carry a .45 i would suspect it is a Glock 19/23 in the latter half of season 2. the finally made it very clear how small the weapon was. there are several shots throughout the series of the bore which i would doubt to be .40 S&W let alone a .45 can someone else put in their opinions or ideas? maybe with a screenshot or two?? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:39, 11 October 2011 (CDT)

Here's one I uploaded a while back and is actually further up the page:

[[Image:JustGlockBore.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]

Looks like a 9mm to me. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:12, 11 October 2011 (CDT)

thanks, i believe that the only time he uses a Glock 21 is in the episode that the picture is taken on the main page. i would assume that when he fired in excessive of 15 or so rounds in the finale it means either a Glock 17/22. however in the second season his Glock appears to be a compact, any thoughts? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:59, 12 October 2011 (CDT)

I can't really remember there being much difference in his gun in the second season but it's been a while since I've watched it. I'll have to re-watch it some time. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:35, 12 October 2011 (CDT)

== In Desperate Need ==

This page is in desperate need of an update. Please do it.--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 17:25, 12 December 2011 (CST)

Someone, please, do something! This page is needed to update. [[User:Keepinsafeman|Keepinsafeman]]

:How about you guys work on it and stop telling other people to do it. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 15:56, 15 February 2012 (CST)
::^^What he said. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 16:15, 15 February 2012 (CST)
:::^^What they said [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:42, 15 February 2012 (CST)

:::^^I would love to but I can't be useful here. I don't really know much about guns but I'd like to know about them. [[User:Keepinsafeman|Keepinsafeman]] 05:57, 16 February 2012 (CST)

Talk:Justified - Season 3

2012-02-23T06:21:09Z

Ello again: Created page with "The gun Raylan carries is a Glock 17 at least in certain episodes of season 2 and 3 you can clearly see the 17 and 9x19 on the side of it. and that it has Glock 3-dot night sight..."

The gun Raylan carries is a Glock 17 at least in certain episodes of season 2 and 3 you can clearly see the 17 and 9x19 on the side of it. and that it has Glock 3-dot night sights on it. Somebody also said that it was confirmed in "GLOCK Autopistols Magazine" in the section "Box office GLOCKs" This section of the magazine can not be trusted for verification as it has misidentified GLOCKs in numerous media sources. Most famously Heath Ledgers modified Glock 17 from The Dark knight, which they identified as a GLOCK 18.

Talk:Justified

2012-02-23T06:13:38Z

Ello again: /* Glock 21 */

==Screencapping==
Does anybody plan on screencaping this? I got the dvds in my Netflix queue. But if someone has purchased the series it would be a lot easier for them. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

this is a realy good show and i would like to give it a proper page so if any one is interested drop me a line on the talk page on my user page. --[[User:simmons 8492|simmons 8492]]

==Commander or Officers size 1911?==
So what gun does Raylin use to shoot Boyd in the chest with?
:He did a brass check on it in the motel room. It looked like a Commander model. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:41, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
::I watched the scene again, it's an Officers size. Could be a Kimber. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

==Miami gun==
This screen-cap of the gun Raylin uses at the table in Miami at the start of the episode does NOT look like a SIG Sauer P226. It has large square front end, the possibly after-market spring guide rod is stainless and rather large hex; the grip flares above the hand. Other details are a little hard to distinguish, but I think the ID for this prop gun is still unknown. Ideas?
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3390/snapshot20100318023606.png
--[[Special:Contributions/24.8.253.46|24.8.253.46]] 22:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see double stack bulges either. I'm going to covert that pic to JPEG and put it on the main page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:JT-SIG.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]
::Here is the pic converted. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

:::This doesn't look like a real SIG to me; it looks like one of the SIG [["Non Guns"]]:

:::[[Image:SIGnon-gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG-Sauer Non Gun]]

:::-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Perfect! Here's an animated image I took off the ep. It clearly shows that it's a non-gun. That's why it looks kind of funny, a little like a Glock, some of the parts don't match, and it's way too simplified. Classic non-gun. Given that I think we're fine leaving it as a Sig Sauer P226. And we have another image to add to the non-gun page.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6461/justifiednongun.gif
--[[Special:Contributions/24.8.253.46|24.8.253.46]] 02:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::EXCELLENT! Yes, that tell tale "poof" of the flame and the smoke lacks the 'blast' of a real blank. It's definitely an ISS non-gun. Just remember to list it on the NON gun page as well as the actor page (along with this page). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

:::''Given that I think we're fine leaving it as a Sig Sauer P226.''

:::Nope, if it's a Non Gun, then it should be designated as such, and not as a SIG P226. We are trying to be an accurate as possible. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

well first , at the end of "fire in the hole" , at the end he says " a SIG P two twenty six" simmons 8492

As a gun lover and collector for many years, I think I'll chime in with my .02cents the gun appears to be a sig p6 which would be a modern p226 just the single stack earlier version, I highly disbelieve is to be a "non gun' as there is no separation in slide as the image above shows, guide rods are often changed, as I have changed the ones in my carry sig as well.

If you watch the scene it is very very obviously a non gun. There is no movement from the slide and it has the little puff of smoke the non guns do. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:18, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

==The Promo Gun==
I'm not sure if this related to the topic above but, on the Promo shot for the show, show on the original page on this site, the Sig that he is aiming has quite a large bore aperture. Considering this penchant for larger caliber Automatics, I think it could possibly be a Sig p220 in .45 ACP. Thoughts anyone?--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 17:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

which trailer?.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

On the main article for this site. It is possibly the lens that was used.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 03:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

==End of first episode==
Seriously? They killed the main antagonist in the first episode, now what?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:21, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

He didn't fucking die dude. Raylen just wounded him instead of killing him instantly. He'll be back.-ArmoredMason619

He was alive when they put him in the ambulance and he is on the next episode.-Spades of Columbia

But he took a .45 slug and a load of buckshot to the chest! I bet next episode he's going to be perfectly fine (stupid television)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

She missed, no buckshot to the chest. The have already shown he's in the hurt box but alive. FX tends to be on the level with violence.

He wasn't perfectly fine the next episode. He was in a hospital bed with little movement possible and a button where he can control pain meds. He isn't fine. And just because he was shot with a .45 in the chest doesn't mean much if Raylan didn't hit his heart or lungs. But it did knock the guy down and out of the fight. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 17:46, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Givens shot Boyd centermass, so it's understood from the dialogue of the other characters that Givens missed the heart on purpose out of some sense of loyalty to Boyd. And if you would pay close enough attention to the dialogue and not just the action, many of these simple questions are answered.

He Says , adn i quote "at glenco , didnt you teach those recruts to aim for the heart?" just the fact that Raylan pulled a one handed pull,and was able to miss intentionaly is a sign of intence training.[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]
:On the dvd commentary, the creators said Boyd was supposed to die. He tested well and when the series got picked up, they brought him back. The scene of him being loaded into the ambulance was added after it was picked up. You could also argue, since Givens had to fire from the hip he couldn't his mark as well.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

:i like that they kept byod alive. hes a good oposite to raylan. but he was in the hospital for a while, he doesnt get released til the forth or fifth episode. enough tim to heal.--[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

==Glock==
I believe that Raylen is carrying a glock 22 and a glock 27 in the second episode. He even makes a reference to The Fugative as he is a US Marshal. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]

I have yet to get a good enough look at what Type/style/Brand of holster Raylin draws from. Can anyone identify the holster or at least get a good picture of it? [[Spades of Columbia]]

The holster appears to be a Bianchi 59 Special Agent Holster.

In S1.Ep.10 Raylen tells the judge the he carries a .45 Glock. Wouldn't that make it a 21?
:Just because that's what he says in the show doesn't make it so. The muzzle is what most use to determine what type of Glock, if there isn't a good view of the slide. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but he's saying its a .45 Glock. Now, it could be a G21 or a G37 if it's chambered in .45 GAP -burgershot621

Yeah...because it would be completely normal for a Southern Marshal to carry a .45gap, it would be a ACP if anything. [[Spades Of Columbia]]

In the episode, Raylen states he is carrying a .45 caliber glock. If it were a .45 GAP, he would say GAP. The .45 GAP is farely new, so it is understood that the character is carrying a .45 ACP, seeing as how the majority of the viewers may not be gun hounds like ourselves.-Mr. Peapobdy

Someone has now added the Glock 31 to the page. I'm starting to thing Glock sponsored this show just to advertize their product line.

Alot of the glocks on this page are speculative. For example just because a character on the show verbally says he's using a 45 doesnt mean he is using a real life Glock 21, he might say 45 but is filmed with a glock 17 or 19. Also just because it looks like a .357 sig cartridge doesnt mean its a Model 31 or 32, it might mean that he is using a model 22 with a necked and crimped blank round. They can also use the same gun in multiply seens with diffrent people...for all we know right now they can be passing the same Glock 17 and 26 to all the characters and call them diffrent calibers. [[Spades of Columbia]]

I would have thought an Old School Marshall Southern boy like Givens would use something different to a Glock like a 1911 or even a revolver. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:40, 22 April 2011 (CDT)

==Kentucky==
: As a former resident of Kentucky, I find Raylin's remarks about having to go back to KY hilarious. It is clearly obvious that he doesn't want to be there, and if you've ever had to live there you'll know exactly why-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 03:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think everyone feels that way about one's home state. Besides, there're bad places almost everywhere. Ever been to the backwoods of Florida? It's just like this show.--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 04:51, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Don't see why he complains so much. I've lived in Kentucky my whole life. I love this place.

==Bulletville==
: Though you'll only see it for a glimpse, it seems as though Ava is using a USPc near the end of the episode, in the cabin. Perhaps Raylan switched his BUG, or just a pick up. Just an added note. [[GWHYSOW]]

I'm not sure where the USP came from, I think Raylan disarmed Bo's thug of it.
Other Weapons were the Revolver & Sniper Rifle used by Boyd. Two other badguys used AK rifles.

I believe the USP came from Bo's guy that was watching Ava in the cabin, then Boyd came through the back door and killed him at which point i believe Ava got the dead man's weapon. [[Spades of Columbia]]

you're right, the USP came from one of Bo's thugs. raylan finishes the fight with his back-up -burgershot621
==Moved from main page==
I hate seeing discussions on the main page do here. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
===Glock 26===
[[Image:Glock 26.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Glock 26 subcompact Pistol - 9x19mm]]
The Glock 26 is a subcompact pistol chambered for 9x19mm.

In episode 2 Marshal Givens is asked to drop both his gun and his backup. If his primary gun is a Glock 17 or 19 it would make sense that his backup is a Glock 26. Then you have mag and ammo compatibility.

-He states that his primary is a .45 Glock. No .45 Glock is this small so it stands to reason that this would be a 9mm because of Armor safety issues. There's no need for it to be a .357. However, from the size, it could easily be a Glock 33 in .357 sig or a Glock 27 in .40 S&W.

(Regarding statement above about there not being a .45 glock in that size) If you don't know anything about glocks, which you obviously don't, keep your statements off the internet. The glock 30 is a compact .45 glock. In the episode "the hammer" he states he has a .45 glock, which means he has...a .45 glock!! Pay closer attention and think before you type on a website that gun-nut cops (such as myself) visit on a daily basis.

If you seriously think that that SUB COMPACT weapon shown below is a Glock 30, then you've never held one. As a Glock 30 is a smaller COMPACT weapon. My personal belief that this is very likely the Glock 39 in .45 GAP, it's size difference being almost negligable when compared to the glock Glock 26. This show obviously seems to be marketing for glock and it stands to reason that his full size weapon is a Glock 37, also in .45 GAP. So keep your big man mouth to yourself mr "cop."--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 15:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I think that we can all agree that this anon "cop" is just some random kid who's parents don't love him enough.. also, my uncle carries a Glock 37, and off duty he carries a Glock 39.. both are chambered in .45 GAP. Oh, and really quick, "gun-nut cop," if you really were a cop you would know not to tell everyone on the internet, and you would have learned how to control your temper. -PunisherDave

You can clearly see it is not the Glock 30, if you've ever held one. The frame size alone is far too small, Glock 30 holds 10 .45 ACP, the 39 only 6 in GAP. My first statement was that no weapon is ".45 Glock is this small" and while it isn't true, I had considered the Glock 30 a outright saw that this weapon is too small. I also wouldn't carry a Glock 30 in an ankle holster, I believe that's where he kept it.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 00:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to correct myself, I don't think this is a Glock 39, I'm pretty sure that the Glock 39 comes with the newer Slide release, the weapon pictured doesn't.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 02:32, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:justified_glock26.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Marshal Givens is asked to drop his backup gun in Episode 2. Looks like a Glock 26. It has the mag boot on it.]]

Could be a 36. Course I'm bad at identifing Glocks. They should show the slide at some point in every show/movie that has Glocks in it, to make the lives of us gun nuts easier. Also, he kept it in the small of his back.-AC

===Glock 21===
In S1E10, The Hammer, Raylan Givens tells a judge he is assigned to protect that he carries a ".45 caliber Glock" making his sidearm a Glock model 21.
[[Image:Glock21.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]

-Possibly a Short Frame model.

Very possibly a Glock 37 in .45 GAP.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 15:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I love how when I suggest that he might be carrying a glock in .45 GAP it's shot down, but the theory has resurfaced numerious times after and now it seems like a credible option for a U.S. Marshall to be carrying one. --burgershot621

I can't think of a Reason why it couldn't be one. He specifically states its a .45 and glock would want to market it over the 21, surely.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 18:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

For the love of God its a tv show...just because a character says he is shooting a .45 does not mean that the shows armour handed the actor a .45 to act with. Number one, where and why would a movie/tv armour buy all but dead calibered hand guns like the 45GAP...and two why would a small town law enforcement agent carrie a hard to get ammoed firearm like the 45gap.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:40, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Then by your comment, why do we discuss anything at all on this website? Everything on here is just a movie, t.v. show, or video game. Number one, .45GAP is anything but dead, and U.S. Marshals aren't small town law enforcement. It's a federal law enforcment agency that is part of the executive branch. Doesn't sound small time to me, and sounds like it could stand to reason that it would use a specialized caliber such as .45 GAP. - Burgershot621

Kinda hard to call it a dead caliber when the entire the Georgia State Patrol carry Glock's in 45GAP.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

In the commercial world Yes the 45GAP is dead in the water...Glock themselves are unloading them in hope of getting rid of them at a lower fee, I can buy any model of 45Gap for atleast 20% less then any other model of glock ...because there is NO public demand. Yes, a couple state patrols got bamboozled into issueing them...but do you really think a movie armorer will go out of their way to special order a 45GAP for a TV show and then get specialized blanks for the 45gap..or do you think it is more logical to give the actors another model of glock and just put in the script that it is a 45.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 20:38, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

dunno, there's been some speculation as to the plethora of glocks shown in this show, such as maybe a product placement deal? who knows. i mean, the last time i looked at the actual page it was listed that raylen used a glock in .357 Sig. Why would he switch from a 9mm, to a .357, to a .45ACP? Just something to think about and no one said that the .45 was definately .45 GAP. its just speculation and is not beyond the realm of possibility...

goodwin's law.

In the commercial world? If you are going by the commercial world then the round would have to be no longer produced by any manufacturer to be dead. Federal, Magtech, Remington, Winchester, and Speer are major producers of ammunition and they still see fit to produce the .45 GAP. If major suppliers of ammunition are still producing a round, then it can't be considered dead in the water. As for .45 GAP Glock's being cheaper, its called supply and demand. The .45 GAP was forgotten by a lot of writers when Springfield Armory made their XD in .45 ACP. The same could be said about the .357 Sig. Except for Law Enforcement Agencies, not a lot of people carry or own a .357 Sig. Where I am, pistols chambered in the .357 Sig are somewhat cheaper than .40S&W, .45ACP or 9mm. They is not a great demand so suppliers are focusing more on popular models. I have cousins and know a lot of Georgia State Patrolmen. They didn't get bamboozled into the .45 GAP. They like it. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 23:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Seeing as how Para Ordnance had Springfield have decided to create 1911s and XD's chambered for .45 GAP, the round is anything but dead.---[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 00:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

In my store we have 6 types of .357 sig, 5 types of 10mm, 2 types of .327 federal...Hell we even have RCM ammo in stock. But not one box of 45 GAP, not one gun chambered in .45 GAP. All my suppliers from MT to Acusport to gunarama to ellett brothers tell me they cant give the .45GAPs away because they sit on the shelf and collect dust because nobody wants them. The ammo is becoming more and more low production similiar to the .32 H&R mag and .38 short colt ammo. Springfield DID chamber the XD in 45 gap but dropped it because NOBODY was buying them...and just try to find a Springfield 1911 in a 45 gap (they talked about it in 2005 but i never saw one). If my memory serves me right i think PARA chambers in a 9x23 so if they do do a 45gap it is meaningless for the caliber and anyway they dont do it anymore. AND Finally, If someone gave me a free 45 gap and my job supplied me with all the 45gap ammo i could shot (like the Georgia State patrol) I would most likely say that i like the caliber too...but that does not mean i would go buy my own ammo and my own personal gun in that caliber. All my customers that bought the 45gap back in the day thinking it would be cool all grew to regret it and are now trying to sell them without lossing their shirt in the deal. I call it dead because it will have no more growth, production will never be higher then the previous year...I am not yet calling the 45GAP a wildcat--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:01, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

soo back to the original point of this...it is possible that givens would have a .45 GAP glock if it was issued to him...--[[User:Burgershot621|Burgershot621]] 01:56, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

The character Givens in theory could be issued a 45 gap in script form...but it is very unlikely that Timothy Olyphant physically has a .45 GAP in his hands in filming.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

One of the old teaser trailers had a few good close-ups of the Glock. "17" and "9x19" were both clear on the slide. It may not necessarily be the same one used for filming the episodes, but it seems pretty likely. [[User:Gato|Gato]] 19:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, it was pure speculation, based upon the scene we see. If we are going go over this "9mm are easier to blank fire" thing EVERYTIME a glock is mentioned, then this site is going to get very boring. There are many incidents of a director or actor wanting the specific weapon because a person or persons they base their character on, or them just liking a certain caliber. Also, gun companies often use tv or movies to advertise their weapons or calibers or new equipment, if a character often mentions the exact caliber or model number of their weapon, it's reasonable to assume that this is the case.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 00:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

It has to be a 21, I just finished watching the whole series and Raylan always fires 13 rounds before reloading, the promo art and the uk box shows a wide bore on the barrel. Coupling this with him telling the judge he uses a 'glock in 45' and tha fact the 45gap glock only has a ten round capacity i think its safe to say its a 21--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:31, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Ok here is my take on this whole discussion as I just finished reading all the posts going back and forth about what Glock he is carrying. Glocks are very difficult to identify on film without a clear image of the slide and model numbers on them. I think if a character says in a show/film that they are carrying a 45 Glock then unless you have a screen cap of the gun proving otherwise then it should be posted as such. This isn't a case like the movie Kiss the Girls where the character says "pick up the Glock" and the gun is clearly not a Glock. Or A Few Good Men when the character says a "nickle plated 45" and the gun in question is a 9mm Beretta. It should also be noted that the 2 most common calibers for blankadapted firearms are both 9mm AND 45acp. That is because the standard pressures of the round can be low enough to be safe to the actors while still alowing the gun to function properly. 40s&w and 357sig are higher pressure/power rounds and therefore not likely to be blank adapted for use in film. The 45gap is a lower power 45 so it is possible but the brass and ammo for them tend to cost more. Just IMHO... if the guy says it is a 45 Glock and he is in fact carrying a Glock (which should be easy to identify for all of us gun nuts) then it should be posted as such and not what we "think" it is because it is "unlikely" the actor was handed what he says he has.--[[User:Ram229|Ram229]] 02:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Just watched episode 3 (working my way through the series) and it looks like his Glock is a 9mm. There's a bit where he is talking about drawing and when he draws his Glock it is pointed right at the camera and the bore looks too small to be a .45. It appears to be the a 9mm size.--[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:32, 23 April 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:JustGlockBore.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]

The bore size of the Glock looks to me to be a 9mm but I can't be 100% sure. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 05:26, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

It is a Glock 17 at least in certain episodes of season 2 and 3 you can clearly see the 17 and 9x19 on the side of it. Somebody also said that it was confirmed in "GLOCK Autopistols Magazine" in the section "Box office GLOCKs" This section of the magazine can not be trusted for verification as it has misidentified GLOCKs in numerous media sources. Most famously Heath Ledgers modified Glock 17 from The Dark knight, which they identified as a GLOCK 18.

==Arts Sig==
in the piolt, art uses a sig to fire at the two fat neo-nazis. it says its a P226, but it looks to compact to be a 226. id say 228 or 229 --[[User:Simmons 8492|Simmons 8492]]

==Fixer Guns==
Anyone care to id the guns used in that episode by the bad guys?

== Raylen's Glock ==
(moved form main page) In one commercial promoting the show, Raylan is hiding around a corner and points his sidearm at the head of Boyd Crowder. From an enhanced still frame, the slide clearly shows both "17" and "9x19." Also, the barrel on his fullsize GLOCK is of 9mm diameter, and the grip frame is not large enough to be the GLOCK 21, which is often claimed as a result of Raylan's single reference to his carrying that firearm. No matter what his claim, the gun physically in his hands is a GLOCK 17.

After watching the entire series i have kept an eye on Raylens Glock. although he seems to carry at least two throughout the series i can say with some degree of certainty that he doesnt carry a .45 i would suspect it is a Glock 19/23 in the latter half of season 2. the finally made it very clear how small the weapon was. there are several shots throughout the series of the bore which i would doubt to be .40 S&W let alone a .45 can someone else put in their opinions or ideas? maybe with a screenshot or two?? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:39, 11 October 2011 (CDT)

Here's one I uploaded a while back and is actually further up the page:

[[Image:JustGlockBore.jpg|thumb|none|300px| ]]

Looks like a 9mm to me. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:12, 11 October 2011 (CDT)

thanks, i believe that the only time he uses a Glock 21 is in the episode that the picture is taken on the main page. i would assume that when he fired in excessive of 15 or so rounds in the finale it means either a Glock 17/22. however in the second season his Glock appears to be a compact, any thoughts? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:59, 12 October 2011 (CDT)

I can't really remember there being much difference in his gun in the second season but it's been a while since I've watched it. I'll have to re-watch it some time. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:35, 12 October 2011 (CDT)

== In Desperate Need ==

This page is in desperate need of an update. Please do it.--[[User:SAMBAMA|SAMBAMA]] 17:25, 12 December 2011 (CST)

Someone, please, do something! This page is needed to update. [[User:Keepinsafeman|Keepinsafeman]]

:How about you guys work on it and stop telling other people to do it. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 15:56, 15 February 2012 (CST)
::^^What he said. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 16:15, 15 February 2012 (CST)
:::^^What they said [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 17:42, 15 February 2012 (CST)

:::^^I would love to but I can't be useful here. I don't really know much about guns but I'd like to know about them. [[User:Keepinsafeman|Keepinsafeman]] 05:57, 16 February 2012 (CST)

Talk:Grimm

2012-02-16T05:01:22Z

Ello again: /* Sniper rifles */ new section

Talk:Safe House (2012)

2012-02-16T01:56:16Z

Ello again: /* I don't think that's a P229 */

==Car Chase Clip==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CONzds10n10&feature=relmfu - There are quite a few nice shots of Weston's P229, the hitman's P226, the suppressed Uzi and I think an M4 in the hands of a hitman just before the chase. I'd do it myself, but I'm a bit busy, sorry ;) --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 10:49, 15 February 2012 (CST).

==Minor Trivia Edit==
I'm sorry for this driveby but that is not any hitman it's a swedish/libanese actor called Fares Fares who's a close friend of the director Daniel Espinosa, just like Joel Kinnaman who's also in the movie, he and Daniel did Snabba Cash together. Mumbling over. If it doesn't fit just edit it out and I'll shut up.

== I don't think that's a P229 ==

[[Image:Unknown_Sig_Sauer.jpg]]

I don't think that Weston's SIG is a P229, kinda looks like a Pro variant, I just can't tell the exact model

I agree with you there, and analysing the other SIG pics, it looks to me like a Pro 2022 --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 18:31, 15 February 2012 (CST).

It might be a p229 E2, but It does seem to resemble a 2022 more. Ello_again

Talk:Chuck

2011-11-16T10:07:23Z

Ello again: /* Unknown Guns */

==Important Note==
An important note to editors: Please differentiate between "a" (firearm) and "the" (firearm). "the" (firearm) should only be used when you are describing 1 single firearm that can transfer hands as many times as it does, whereas "a" should be used when you are describing the same type of firearm, but have no proof to back up that that single firearm "storywise" was in other screenshots. Cpacu6o :) --[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] 19:50, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

And please when adding episode titles for this show use the word "Versus" instead of the abbreviation "Vs." since the official title for each episode spells it out such "Chuck Versus the Intersect". --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:53, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

==New Episodes==
Anyone got some screencaps from the Frosted Tips?

Sergei, it just aired in US. Please be patient. (Also sign your posts) --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:43, 11 November 2011 (CST)

==Unknown Guns==
Any ideas about these guns? __[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:33, 28 October 2011 (CDT)
[[File:ChuckHKusp.JPG|thumb|none|300px|A production image of Sarah with the handgun in "Chuck vs. the Suitcase" (S04E02).]]
[[File:ChuckS2 51.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[File:ChuckS2 44.jpg|thumb|none|500px]] STI Edge. I'll add it, what ep is it from? Gravitron I presume? --[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] 20:08, 28 October 2011 (CDT)

Also, someone should get some screenshots of the black jerichos with stainless slides that are pulled by Bale's men on Sarah and Morgan in "Chuck vs. The Zoom" also Bale's man pulls a 1911 variant on Casey in the zoom too. Screenshots plz. I can't find a pic of a black jericho with a stainless slide anywhere. are they unheard of? --[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] 20:08, 28 October 2011 (CDT)

I am new here so please forgive me if I make a mistake, The gun in the first picture that Sarah is holding might be a Kel-tec PF9. Also all the guns under the FNP-9 section are actually the older FN Forty-nine. Ello_again

==Season 5 unknown guns==
Please help with the guns? Thanks. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:40, 5 November 2011 (CDT)
[[File:ChuckS5 24.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[File:ChuckS5 36.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Additional Stills and screens==

[[File:315ChuckRolemodels.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:Strahovski-ep303-034.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sarah and Chuck check on Casey]]
[[File:Strahovski-ep109-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Casey and Sarah stare into a shipping container in "Chuck vs. The Imported Hard Salami"]]
[[File:Strahovski-ep207-049.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"I can't shoot him, he's the Intersect!!!" from "Chuck vs. The Fat Lady"]]
[[File:Strahovski-ep107-008.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sarah uses her 5906 in "Chuck vs. The Alma Mater"]]
[[File:Strahovski-ep107-036.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sarah firing her 5906 in the classroom shootout in "Chuck vs. The Alma Mater"]]
[[File:Strahovski-ep103-016.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sarah holding her 6906 thrown to her by Casey, on an MI6 agent who also seems remarkably unconcerned after having one of his men shot in the chest in "Chuck vs. The Tango."]]

[[File:Sarahsigmapromo.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Promotional image showing the slide]]
[[File:Photo 1.JPG|thumb|none|500px|In "Chuck vs. The Other Guy" Sarah pulls her 5906 on the director of The Ring in his private elevator shaft.]]
[[File:Strahovski-ep313-065.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shaw holds his HK45C on the Ring Director in "Chuck vs. The Other Guy'']]
[[File:DanielShawS3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Shaw firing his USP in "Chuck vs. The Ring Part II"]]
I believe that he's firing just a normal USP with a stainless slide in this picture [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 14:23, 27 October 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:Picture_479.jpg|thumb|none|300px|John Casey ([[Adam Baldwin]]) has a M4A1 Carbine with an Trijicon 4x ACOG scope and a vertical foregrip]]
[[Image:Picture_1000.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:LightsOutLOLOL.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Casey firing the Trank Gun through a false outlet in Season 3's "Chuck vs. The Nacho Sampler"]][[File:Chuck shoot-300x168.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chuck shoots Ring agents with his Trank Gun in Season 3's "Chuck vs. Operation Awesome"]]
[[File:Trankgunfall.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chuck saving the day in "Chuck vs. The Cat Squad"]]
[[File:Tranq gunrsz.jpg|thumb|none|400px|.]]
[[File:Strahovski-ep202-054.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In "Chuck vs. The Seduction," Sasha Banachek's men hold Sarah with their Five-SeveN's]]

[[File:Strahovski-ep409-055.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another view of Morgan's chrome Desert Eagle Mark I]]

==Custom Suppressed 1911==
I'll go and get a screenshot if no one else has one, but in Chuck vs. The Fat lady, the fulcrum agent from "Tuttle Electric" totes a i think silver safari matchmaster with wood grips, and a silver suppressor. he later uses it un suppressed to hold Jill at gunpoint on the Opera stage.

==Trank Guns==
The trank guns are Baby WE high capa 3.8 green gas airsoft guns. WE makes several variations of these high quality all metal airsoft guns that field strip, and function very much like the real deal. Chuck seems to use the variant that has 3 cuts in the slide that exposes the barrel. --[[User:James3|James3]] 07:33, 6 July 2011 Best Images:
http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/ecshop/images/200802/1203814245595151646.jpg
http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/ecshop/images/200802/1203813613402154444.jpg
http://www.airsplat.com/Images/GP-WE-HiCapa-38.jpg
http://www.uncompany.com/images/we-baby3.8-cs-sv_big.jpg
http://www.justpistols.co.uk/we38_001.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eHanHmgWYSE/SM4srwGxsrI/AAAAAAAAAIA/CK6U1Y02ZdU/s320/gun_0313_2+WE+black+Hi+Capa.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/spawnvenom/IMG_0408.jpgCDT)

Looks like a customized P226 with a 20 round magazine, the lack of a beavertail and the presence of the forward serrations make me think of the P226 Extreme. I also think it's what Casey has been carrying in the last few episodes. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 07:22, 3 June 2011 (CDT) - This is definitely the gun that Casey has been using namely the shootout at Ms. Winterbottom's house, I can tell by the long grip. Ms. Winterbottom refers to it as "That damn pea-shooter" - that being when she pulls an M60 from her dainty cedar chest. - Sergei Titov (Сергей Титов)

:It's not a P226 Extreme - doesn't have the right grips. Look at the slide design - it has the space between the cocking serrations and the rear of the slide that is seen only on the original German-made P226s with stamped-steel slides. It looks to me like this is an older-model SIG P226 that has been customized to look like a P226 Equinox, just as Casey's SIG P229 is an older-model 229 modified to look like an Equinox. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 09:03, 3 June 2011 (CDT)

[[File:Chuck 272.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

:This is a Taurus PT911 or PT940. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 09:03, 3 June 2011 (CDT)

[http://images.wikia.com/chuck/images/9/92/Tranq_gun.jpg] - Business End of Trank Gun
[http://images.wikia.com/chuck/images/6/65/Weapon_stash.jpg] - Trank Gun (Lower Right Hand Corner)

^ That's Chuck's "10mg Trank Gun" a Custom made Kimber Pro Covert II with a drilled slide, extended chrome barrel, and a red/green laser on a bottom accessory rack - Editors please note that this gun plays a major part in the series and should be added to the main page.

==SIG 229==

I just have a quick question, for those of you who play video games: What game could Morgan possibly be referring to that would allow him to identify Casey's weapon as a SIG 229? The only game I'm aware of that has the 229 is ''[[Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain]]'', and even then, the gun isn't IDed by name (to my understanding). So what game might Morgan have played? It's nothing particularly important; just curious. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::We can assume that Morgan is such a game dork that he would have identified (or had the gun verbally identified by another geek to him) while playing the game. For the record, I know next to nothing about Video Games. When I have to choose hmmmm, shoot the 229 in a video game or shoot the 229 for real? I tend to choose shooting the guns for real 100% of the time ;) LOL [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't think the producers looked to see if it was in any games. They assumed that it would be in a game, and that Morgan's nerdiness would allow him to identfiy it.

Enter the Matrix has a Sig 229 sporter in the game and it should be in any game dealing with the secret Service, and it is in "Secret Service: The Ultimate Sacrifice". [[Spades of Columbia]]

:I don't know much about video games either, but even in games about the secret service would they identify the weapon by its actual name? I thought video games always made up names for the weapons they feature, even if the weapons are based on real models. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

I doubt they were thinking of it, they just wanted to show that although he is a nerd he can identify a weapon, besides TV shows and movies have often used games that don't exist for when character has to play something, why would they bother with thinking which game has the gun or if there is one that has it at all--[[Special:Contributions/188.112.128.8|188.112.128.8]] 13:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Good example: In "Chuck vs. the helicopter" I believe the simulator games mentioned were fictional.

Going off on a bit of a tangent would Casey's SIG be chambered in .357 SIG as are the secret services 299's, i know morgan said it was a 9mm but this has never been confirmed either way and you never see and guns chambered in this calibur on television - Captain Snikt

:Dude, you see this picture:

:[[Image:IMG 1680.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Enlarge it to full-size and you can see that it says "9mm Para" on the top of the barrel visible from the ejection port. And the gun you see in this picture is ''the'' actual SIG 229 that Adam Baldwin uses on the show, as I wrote in the caption on the page. So yes, I'd say that this '''does''' confirm his gun is a 9mm. Remember, this is a TV show, not real life; Hollywood's armorers tend to use 9mm pistols instead of other calibers because 9mm used to be the easiest caliber to convert to blank-fire. What the Secret Service uses in real life is irrelevant (and Casey is said to be NSA, anyway). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:20, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, It's just a shame we never get to see any of the more powerful lesser known rounds in movies/tv, but thanks for clearing that up - Captain Snikt

==Glock prop==
While I'm not sure, it's not likely the Glock 17 used is an airsoft gun from airsplat. Airsoft websites have a tendency to bs about having their guns used on movies and tv shows when they aren't, and since ISS was supplying plenty of real blank converted weapons it seems unlikely they'd use a gas blowback airsoft gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Well access to the weapons is not the primary point. When you have a network budget, you ALWAYS have access to blank firing weapons. But blanks ARE expensive and loud. They could have been filming in a location that prohibited the live fire. We all have been in areas where we could NOT fire loud blanks for one reason or another. That's when you use the Gas blowback guns and have your post production guys add in flash, brass casings and gas from the ejection port (or in the case of SyFy channel original films, you use a spring airsoft gun, mime fire it and put in endless crappy CGI muzzle flashes that exceed the magazine capacity of the weapon)..... But NBC has a contract with ISS, so ALL GUNS in ALL NBC shows have to come from ISS, so one can assume that if they needed a non firing weapon, they would have just used an ISS non-gun (aka flashpaper gun). mpm

==SIG-Sauer P228==
Did anyone notice in the episode "Chuck vs. the Aisle of Terror, how after disarming the CIA informant of his cocked P228, (looked to me like it was finished with Robar Np3) Casey decocked the gun while barely glancing at it? I am not sure if this was part of the script, or a result of Adam Baldwin having used the nearly identical SIG-Sauer P229 for the past four seasons and being familiar with the system. - [[User:SIGmund|SIGmund]]

:It was a factory nickel SIG P226 (I saw the squared trigger guard), not a P228. But yes, Adam Baldwin obviously was familiar with SIGs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:19, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

==Where can I get a SIG finsihed like that?==

I think the 229 looks awesome with polished flats, much better than factory 2 tone.

-[[user:k9870]]

:T.J.'s Custom Gun Works does it. They finished P229s in the same style for ''[[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:51, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
As you know im a 229 fanboy, just love them, Id like a 229R with a reduced power mainspring, and the lide flats polished like that (i dont like full out 2 tone.)

CT rubber overmold lasergrips are comfy and id get some. Useful too. And Id NP3 the barrels, leave controld alone, polishing those is too much bling. Id get a .40, with a 357 sig barrel, and a 9mm bar sto conversion barrel and mec gar p228 mags. Then a .22 conversion slide. o i could have 4 calibers in one gun.

==What does polishing slide flats require?==

Do you add a new finish on or remove old finish? Wondering what finishes it can be done to, like nitron models, roguard, etc.

==P90's==

volkovs men can be seen using P90's in season 4 episode 13 'Chuch vs the push mix'. just to let the page editors know :)

==Sig 552's==

just watched the latest episode, the female mercs can be seen using Sig 552's

==Volkoff's gun==

Looks like a double stack polymer 6 inch 1911. Only one I can think of is STI Eagle. Anybody got a caption to prove this?

[[File:Volkoff gun 2rsz.jpg|250px|thumb|none|]]

Look I'm new at uploading photos so if someone could direct me to a tutorial on how to get them the right size, make them fit in the box, etc that would be greatly appreciated. And that gun has an accessory rail underneath, you just can't see it in this picture. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]]

Section has been added, however I am beginning to question whether or not it is the 5.0 and not the 6.0? --[[User:Sergei Titov|Sergei Titov]] 23:09, 25 October 2011 (CDT)

Yup figured it out, its an STI Eagle 4.0 not 6.0 ;D --[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] 23:43, 25 October 2011 (CDT)

==Chuck Versus the Masquerade: SD gun of Female Officer in Volkoff's organization==

The gun drawn by the Female Officer seems to be a Steyr M9-series. Can anyone corroborate?
[[Special:Contributions/72.189.150.42|72.189.150.42]]

:Yep, Steyr M9A1. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:30, 8 March 2011 (MSK)

==what is this gun?==

chuck vs the murderrr its used, striker fired had flat back of slide. Looks ruger sr-9/taurus 24/7ish in certain shots but has some front serrations?

http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/4/4e/112.jpg

:Looks like a two-tone [[Smith & Wesson SW99]] to me. It was also shown close-up in the pile of the guns, and that's what I remember thinking it was then, too. They've also had SW99s in a couple episodes now, so it would make sense if they were reusing them again in this episode. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:58, 24 March 2011 (CDT)

I was gonna say a Walther P99 but the rounded trigger guard changed my answer, so I agree with the [[Smith & Wesson SW99]]. --[[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]]

==Casey's gun switch==

Is it just me or did Casey switch guns in the latest episodes, I only noticed while I was watching "Chuck vs. Agent X", but I don't recognise it, is there anyone that can identify it? -Jacco Croon-

If it's the handgun, he switched to a custom Sig Sauer P226. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]]

I wonder why he switched? Seemed rather random to me. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:35, 29 August 2011 (CDT)

== Post Ban Magazine? ==

I know it says it's a post ban magazine but it looks like there's not even a magazine in there on the P229 custom.

There is a magazine, if you look at the size of the gap it's too small for a magazine to go in, and if you look around the outside of the gap you can see where the magazine meets with the grip towards the back. It might look like there is no magazine but there is definitely a magazine in there. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 11:55, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

:It's definitely a post-ban magazine. SIG post-ban mags all have a base plate with a huge gaping hole that extends up into the length of the magazine and limits their capacity (and they're also shorter in length than a standard-capacity mag, which means that you can't expand their capacity simply by swapping the base plates). You can see a picture of one [http://www.nelsontactical.com/products/images/sig/226-9mm-10Rd.jpg here]. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:25, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

That image also explains where the design of the SIG Sauer P226 airsoft magazines came from. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:08, 24 July 2011 (CDT)

== Trigger Discipline ==

All I have to say on this subject is Bravo. It's not often you see many people on a TV show exercising trigger discipline but this show seems to have it down. I'm surprised but glad.--[[User:bristow8411|bristow8411]]

== Chuck vs. The First Bank of Evil, Chuck vs. The Cougars ==

I think imfdb needs a screenshot of Sarah using two Steyr SPPs during the bank heist in Macau. Along side Chuck using two Hi Capa Baby WE Trank Guns. Here is a youtube clip of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2KCknsox6Q

In Chuck vs. the Cougars, the Russian thugs are seen carrying suppressed Makarovs. Editors please note. Thank You :) --Сергей Титов

== Barcode Gun ==

Is it just me or does the handgun hidden in the barcode scanner look more like a Glock variant than a SIG? [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]]
:Yeah it's a Glock. 17 would be my guess. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 00:22, 19 October 2011 (CDT)

===Intersect Glasses===

The creation of Manoosh in "Chuck vs. The Nacho Sampler". Created by remnants of the destroyed Intersect 2.0; Intersect glasses are also used in "Chuck vs. The Cliffhanger''.

[[File:Intersect-Glasses.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Claimed to turn a wimp into a Kung Fu master.]]

[[File:MorganIntersectGlasses.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Intersect glasses intended for Chuck from General Beckmann, accidentally worn by Morgan transforming him into the new intersect in S4E24 "Chuck vs. The Cliffhanger".]]

[[File:ChuckSeason5CastPromotionalPictures JoshuaGomez 2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Morgan with the Glasses.]]

== 226 ==

A pictures of Casey's new 226 would be nice. Just saying.

Well Mr Anonymous why don't you create an account and screencap them yourself instead of trying to get other people to do it for you. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 02:03, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

== Sarah's Compact Pistol Continuity ==

Here's some pics of the pistol Sarah pulls from her purse in "Chuck Versus the Role Models". If another user can give definitive ID's in order to correct the page, it would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:49, 2 November 2011 (CDT)
[[File:ChuckS3 61.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:Chuck 29.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:ChuckCloset950.JPG|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[File:Sarah950stance.JPG|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[File:Strahovski-ep315-037.jpg|thumb|none|601px|]]
[[File:ChuckS3 63.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:ChuckS3 25.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:ChuckS3 24.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

== Lack of Holsters ==

It seems weird that for all being professional spys that all of the major characters just tuck their guns into the waist band of their pants unless they are in tactical gear or sarah has hers in her purse. It seems weird that with options like in the waste band holsters they wouldn't use them. I could see how chuck might not know about this kinda stuff but it seems surprising for sarah and extremely surprising for a gun enthusiast like casey.--[[User:Afpnj03|Afpnj03]] 18:24, 12 November 2011 (CST)

I never realised that until you pointed it out. You would expect at least Casey would use a holster for his SIG... --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:44, 12 November 2011 (CST)

They are always carrying them concealed. When they are unconcealed Casey keeps his in a titanium case, and Sarah keeps her 5906 wherever. they probably have concealed waistband holsters, or just none at all because for the instances where they are concealed... they won't be concealed for long. --[[User:Sergei Titov|Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov]] 21:49, 12 November 2011 (CST)

Sarah definitely doesn't have a waistband holster, several times it's just tucked in her trousers. Not even a IWB holster which would be a lot safer than just sticking it in her trousers. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 09:28, 13 November 2011 (CST)

I only really noticed it when chuck first gets his via job in season 3 and goes to beck mans office and the gun falls out of the back of his pants, and at that point i realized who weird it was that none of them had holsters and that the via/nsa didn't issue them or something.--[[User:Afpnj03|Afpnj03]] 14:15, 13 November 2011 (CST)