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Talk:Main Page

2013-03-14T17:00:53Z

DamageW: /* IMDB Links (again) */

''See [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_1]] and [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_2]] for older discussions''

== Can anyone identify this revolver? ==
[[File:HOM Johnson Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
--[[User:Crackshot|Crackshot]] ([[User talk:Crackshot|talk]]) 11:05, 14 February 2013 (EST)
::Doing some digging I'm pretty sure it's an M1917 revolver with pearl grips. Anyone else think so? --[[User:Crackshot|Crackshot]] ([[User talk:Crackshot|talk]]) 12:02, 14 February 2013 (EST)

== New AD space ==

Just letting you know that there are a few problems I've noticed with the new ad space in the upper right --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:52, 25 January 2013 (EST):

1. When looking at differences in revisions, the edits seen on the right are blocked by the new ad space.

2. In pages that don't have infoboxes, the ad space pushes down the poster picture, making it appear that the ad is part of the movie page. This is noticeable in actor pages and non-infobox pages.

: Thanks for informing. I did notice something odd on pages I created (both with and without infoboxes) but I could not figure out what. Should we do something or can will this be solved automatically? Cheers, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 08:07, 26 January 2013 (EST)

:: This is being tested, so if there are any other problems, please let us know. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 08:17, 26 January 2013 (EST)

Here are some examples of what happens with the non-infobox pages.

[[File:IMFDB ad 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[File:IMFDB ad 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

== Dynamic Article List ==

I've temporarily disabled dynamic article list while trying to track down a cpu spike. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 19:45, 27 January 2013 (EST)

== Weird image links ==

I know it's not a biggie for some people, but I like to enlarge some images and I found these a week or so ago:
*http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:MP5KA1.jpg
*http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Twotone_mp.jpg
They redirect to the Main Page inexplicably. There was a third one I found but I can't remember which one it was now. I'm not sure what's up with them but I thought I'd let you guys know. Thanks in advance - --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 10:23, 29 January 2013 (EST)

:The third was probably the claymore mine image, which I re-uploaded and it started working again. Might work with those two as well, I'll give it a try tomorrow if nobody else does it before me. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:32, 29 January 2013 (EST)

[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:AK47-PolyTechLegend.jpg This] image is broken too. It appears on the image page, but when you open it as full size it redirects to the main page. I can't find that MP5KA1 image I uploaded again, so if it can't be fixed will have to settle for uploading the 400px thumbnail version which the server still has. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:31, 29 January 2013 (EST)

Oh, yeah, this was the third one lol: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:P5Wood.jpg Thanks for getting back to me so fast :D --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:04, 30 January 2013 (EST)

== Trivia Page? ==

I wondered if there was a Trivia Page on IMFDB, or if there should be one? I'd like to know things like: "''Most Common Firearm''" "''Youngest Actor/Actress To Hold A Firearm''" "''Most Firearms Used By An Actor/Actress''" "''Most Firearms Used In A Film''". Obviously, the answers would be according to IMFDB's current pages. [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 15:32, 31 January 2013 (EST)
:That kind of thing would be bit difficult to compile, and I don't know how many people would go out of their way to at a dedicated trivia page. The trivia section on the front page fulfills a similar purpose, in much more visible place. If you have any trivia to suggest, however, please let us know. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:18, 31 January 2013 (EST)

== Position of infobox on page ==

It's probably too simple for words, but I just cannot get my infoboxes positioned on the right side of the page. I have only started to use infoboxes for my last two movie pages ([[Preacher, The|The Preacher]] & [[Heineken Kidnapping, The|The Heineken Kidnapping]]) and even though I seem to be using the correct coding the infoboxes keep hanging somewhat in the middle of the page. Any suggestions for an infobox-rookie? Thanks in advance, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 17:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)
:It looks okay to me. Is there an ad pushing it towards the middle? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:30, 27 February 2013 (EST)
::Yes, in both cases there are indeed local ads pushing the infobox towards the middle. Let me know if there's something I can do about that. Thanks, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 02:36, 28 February 2013 (EST)

== New Game FPS TACTICAL INTERVECTION ==

weapons in trailer : P2000, G36CV, P90 and unknow sniper

Realease data 03.28.2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lUKf_JROURo

== Pistols used in The Duel ==

Hi, I just registered on imfdb to find information on the pistols used in [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1282041/ Anton Chekhov's The Duel]. The setting is supposed to be in 1890s Russia.

A few screen caps are online: [http://www.flix66.com/2011/05/28/movie-review-anton-chekhovs-the-duel-blu-ray/ the 2nd on this page], [http://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yxtrVFqQ1ro6ywf.png tumblr], [http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/theduelpistol1.jpg/ imageshack 1], and [http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/theduelpistol2.jpg/ imageshack 2]. --[[User:JustanID|JustanID]] ([[User talk:JustanID|talk]]) 19:15, 7 March 2013 (EST)

:It looks like a large caliber [[Flintlock Pistol]]. I don't recognize it as one used in other films but you can go through the films on that page to find a specific model. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 21:10, 7 March 2013 (EST)

::Thanks for the response, knowing it's large caliber is helpful. I looked through the pictures on [[Flintlock Pistol]], but [http://classic.gunauction.com/buy/11728452/ this] (different grip) is the closest I could find via GIS. --[[User:JustanID|JustanID]] ([[User talk:JustanID|talk]]) 23:22, 7 March 2013 (EST)

:::I enlarged the best of those photos. You should also keep in mind the film was shot in Croatia, so it would be good to start with your search limited to what's available in Eastern Europe. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 02:01, 8 March 2013 (EST)
[[File:ACTD-Flintlock.jpg]]

== Glock Experts? ==

Do we have any Glock experts in the house?? I am in the processes of doing seasons 3 & 4 of [[In Plain Sight]] and there are a LOT of Glocks used and there is a lot of confusion over whether they are 9mm (more common) or .40 cal (which is what the US Marshals use in real life). --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 21:32, 7 March 2013 (EST)

== IMDB Links (again) ==

Man, it's been a long time since I've posted here! Awesome to see over the years that this fabulous site is still going strong.

Anyway, to the point, which was previously brought up last year, (now in archive page 2), and generally deemed to be a good idea, namely to have IMDB links on all of the actor/movie/game pages. And, I guess, Wikipedia links on every page.

I for one would find it an essential feature, my movie watching experience invariably includes ''the other Wiki'', here and IMDB, although I usually come here first. :-) Without fail, something on one of your pages inspires me to follow up on IMDB or Wikipedia and I invariably spend several futile seconds looking for the links that aren't there. A fairly nasty oversized link to Amazon is all there is.

I'm afraid I'm no Wiki expert but isn't there a quick and easy way to generate IMDB links using Wiki code? Said other Wiki has an "IMDB" tag specifically for that effect, and code for linking to other Wikias, much as they do for linking back to "the master". Whether this can be done en masse or whether it would at best just be a cut/paste exercise I don't know, but if nothing else the template for new pages could be updated.

If all else fails, and if the code matched it might also be relatively straightforward to just lift the links directly from Wikipedia itself, saving time and effort.

Anyway, it's just a thought, given the frequency of references to Wiki and IMDB in the body of the articles here, it seems kinda crazy not to have an "External Links" section at the bottom of each page with the two links, easy to find and consistent. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]])

: I quite agree and actually I was going to post the same question on of these days. I take the freedom to think on IMFDB we should focus on gun-relevant matters and for details about actors/movie in general, refer to the experts of IMDB. We could thus possibly do away with story lines at the top (which most people ignore anyway) and personal details on the actor pages. Having clear links to IMDB movie/actor pages (if this has not been discussed earlier...) sounds like a great idea to me, further improving page quality on IMFDB and allowing contributors more time to focus on guns. Am interested to see what you guys think, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:01, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

:: See [http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1989 here]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:36, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

::: PeeWee's suggestions are excellent. And with the utmost respect to MoviePropMaster, I'm not entirely sure that's a particularly balanced argument. Boycotting a site just because it's commercial or has adverts seems a bit, well, spiteful. It's a universally recognised resource, just like Wikipedia, who have no problem linking to IMDB, despite also receiving no sponsorship.

::: The entire concept of Wikias is about linking together relevant information from any and all sources, in the most comprehensive and accessible way possible. Many Wikias, both official and homegrown, have ads as well - including this one. Does this mean that other people shouldn't link to this site as a result? I dislike ads as much as the next man but if I refused to support sites that used them I'd never go anywhere.

::: And just because I don't find a link to IMDB or Wiki isn't going to stop me from going there. Restrict functionality out of some antipathy towards IMDB, however, and you're just as likely to put people off coming here in the first place. It's a slippery slope, and akin to much of the bad press Wikipedia editors get for their often exclusionary and elitist behaviour. It costs the other Wiki a lot of credibility despite not being representative of the whole site, and so I still continue to support it as best I can.

::: And while I admit that IMFDB is not obliged to help IMDB earn revenue, that doesn't mean it can't use them as a resource for its own benefit. They make enough money either way, and really, do we care that much about other companies' profits? It's not like IMFDB is in competition with them.

::: Like MPM himself says, it's a valuable resource, just like Wikipedia, and it'd be a shame to overlook either of them. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]]) 06:11, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

:::: There is a difference between linking to the Wikipedia or IMDB article in order to prove something or because they have something relevant to say, and arbitrarily whacking a pair of links at the bottom of every single page. Whether it is via the use of a template or putting in raw links, it will take a hell of a lot of effort and time to put Wiki and IMDB links on every actor, television, film and video game page (particularly due to the fact that with IMDB links I don't think you can do it automatically, and have to actually go to the page and copy a numerical address), and without any incentive or financial reward for this site I really don't think it is worth it. That is just my opinion though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:56, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

After discussing with [[User:Bunni|Bunni]] (the site manager for those who don't know) a decision has been made. We are NOT going to link to IMDB on all pages by default. We have no issue with citing them and linking to them as a source, but we are NOT going to put links on every page just for the sake of information. There are a number of reasons for this but bottom line is that this is the decision. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 14:04, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

::Well, It's good to see there's no exclusionary and elitist behaviour on this Wiki. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]]) ''"This is a democracy. Which means you do everything I say."'' 23:13, 13 March 2013 (GMT)
:::No one is forcing you to stay. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:23, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
::::Never a more perfect nor predictable response, and the stereotype is complete. ''That's a bingo!'' [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]])
:::::Firstly, nobody is stopping you from contributing to the site. What you are asking is that we use a hell of a lot of our time and effort to alter pretty much every page on the site for negligible gain. It takes all of what, like 3 seconds to get to the wikipedia article for something without a link, it isn't worth changing every page to save you a few seconds here and there. Judging by the fact that before this request you have only made a dozen edits in your 4+ years on the site it is clear that contributing is not your priority, so frankly I find it a bit rich that you are kicking up such a fuss because we are not following your every whim. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:04, 14 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::::Nice projection there, any other ways you'd like completely alter what I said? I don't see any "fuss kicking" here, nor am I making any demands whatsoever. I foolishly thought we could have a resonable debate about the pros and cons of my suggestion. This, however, was not to be, as the mighty "Zachmann" came along and said. ''"NO, because I say so."''

:::::::So much for debate.

:::::::I also like the fact that you make negative insinuations because I don't regularly edit your site. There are many ways to support a site, including regular visits and telling your friends about it. You know, loyalty. Something I've done for years, in fact, although understandably I won't be doing so any more, other than to cite examples of some of the most snobbish, arrogant, hostile behaviour I've seen from Wiki editors since the "Into Darkness" furore on Wikipedia. Nice work welcoming back and almost immediately driving off one of your long-serving followers.

:::::::Worry not, you're clearly so cliqued-up and narrow-minded in here (yes, I'm resorting to insults, but only as a response to what I've experienced) that anyone who doesn't fit your criteria for perfection isn't welcome either to debate, participate or even be taken seriously. I'm outta here. Feel free to celebrate, pour scorn, whatever you do best. Go crazy. :-) [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]])

== Please help ID this shotgun ==

I'm not sure what this shotgun is. It's been listed as a replica of Remington 870 Tactical, but the ejection port is different. This shotgun looks similar to ones seen in ''[[E.T.]]'' and ''[[The Devil's Own]]''. Please help. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 15:58, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
[[File:RepShotgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:Looks like a variant or relative of the [[Remington Model 31]]:[[File:RemingtonModel31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:23, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
::Why does the ejection port remind me of a Winchester shotgun? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 16:25, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
:::It isn't the ejection port itself, but the slope at the rear of the bolt carrier that looks like a Winchester 1200. However, the bolt carrier of the Winchester has no visible extractor or that pin towards the rear, both of which match the Rem Mod 31. For some reason this bolt appears to have had some material machined away at the rear for some unknown reason. Possibly it is a clone made by a different manufacturer, it is a different variant or it is perhaps a deactivated shotgun (it is only broadly described as a "replica" and this is part of the process for this particular gun. Either way, I'm fairly sure the original gun is a Model 31 or derivative of some sort based on the shape of the trigger guard and bolt release, the scalloped part of the receiver at the front of the bottom edge, and the end of the magazine tube. The front position is wrong, but it looks odd to me as it is different to the rear one, so don't know what is going on with that. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:04, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
::::I think I found it, looks like a replica manufactured by MGC:[[File:MGC Remington Model 31.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]Note the front pin position matches, it has the action bar on the right side, the longer front sight matches and the bolt is sloped at the back. From Googling around it also looks like they made versions of it with synthetic furniture folding stocks. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:18, 14 March 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Main Page

2013-03-14T11:17:47Z

DamageW: /* IMDB Links (again) */

''See [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_1]] and [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_2]] for older discussions''

== Can anyone identify this revolver? ==
[[File:HOM Johnson Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
--[[User:Crackshot|Crackshot]] ([[User talk:Crackshot|talk]]) 11:05, 14 February 2013 (EST)
::Doing some digging I'm pretty sure it's an M1917 revolver with pearl grips. Anyone else think so? --[[User:Crackshot|Crackshot]] ([[User talk:Crackshot|talk]]) 12:02, 14 February 2013 (EST)

== New AD space ==

Just letting you know that there are a few problems I've noticed with the new ad space in the upper right --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:52, 25 January 2013 (EST):

1. When looking at differences in revisions, the edits seen on the right are blocked by the new ad space.

2. In pages that don't have infoboxes, the ad space pushes down the poster picture, making it appear that the ad is part of the movie page. This is noticeable in actor pages and non-infobox pages.

: Thanks for informing. I did notice something odd on pages I created (both with and without infoboxes) but I could not figure out what. Should we do something or can will this be solved automatically? Cheers, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 08:07, 26 January 2013 (EST)

:: This is being tested, so if there are any other problems, please let us know. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 08:17, 26 January 2013 (EST)

Here are some examples of what happens with the non-infobox pages.

[[File:IMFDB ad 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[File:IMFDB ad 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

== Dynamic Article List ==

I've temporarily disabled dynamic article list while trying to track down a cpu spike. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 19:45, 27 January 2013 (EST)

== Weird image links ==

I know it's not a biggie for some people, but I like to enlarge some images and I found these a week or so ago:
*http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:MP5KA1.jpg
*http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Twotone_mp.jpg
They redirect to the Main Page inexplicably. There was a third one I found but I can't remember which one it was now. I'm not sure what's up with them but I thought I'd let you guys know. Thanks in advance - --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 10:23, 29 January 2013 (EST)

:The third was probably the claymore mine image, which I re-uploaded and it started working again. Might work with those two as well, I'll give it a try tomorrow if nobody else does it before me. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:32, 29 January 2013 (EST)

[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:AK47-PolyTechLegend.jpg This] image is broken too. It appears on the image page, but when you open it as full size it redirects to the main page. I can't find that MP5KA1 image I uploaded again, so if it can't be fixed will have to settle for uploading the 400px thumbnail version which the server still has. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:31, 29 January 2013 (EST)

Oh, yeah, this was the third one lol: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:P5Wood.jpg Thanks for getting back to me so fast :D --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:04, 30 January 2013 (EST)

== Trivia Page? ==

I wondered if there was a Trivia Page on IMFDB, or if there should be one? I'd like to know things like: "''Most Common Firearm''" "''Youngest Actor/Actress To Hold A Firearm''" "''Most Firearms Used By An Actor/Actress''" "''Most Firearms Used In A Film''". Obviously, the answers would be according to IMFDB's current pages. [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 15:32, 31 January 2013 (EST)
:That kind of thing would be bit difficult to compile, and I don't know how many people would go out of their way to at a dedicated trivia page. The trivia section on the front page fulfills a similar purpose, in much more visible place. If you have any trivia to suggest, however, please let us know. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:18, 31 January 2013 (EST)

== Position of infobox on page ==

It's probably too simple for words, but I just cannot get my infoboxes positioned on the right side of the page. I have only started to use infoboxes for my last two movie pages ([[Preacher, The|The Preacher]] & [[Heineken Kidnapping, The|The Heineken Kidnapping]]) and even though I seem to be using the correct coding the infoboxes keep hanging somewhat in the middle of the page. Any suggestions for an infobox-rookie? Thanks in advance, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 17:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)
:It looks okay to me. Is there an ad pushing it towards the middle? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:30, 27 February 2013 (EST)
::Yes, in both cases there are indeed local ads pushing the infobox towards the middle. Let me know if there's something I can do about that. Thanks, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 02:36, 28 February 2013 (EST)

== New Game FPS TACTICAL INTERVECTION ==

weapons in trailer : P2000, G36CV, P90 and unknow sniper

Realease data 03.28.2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lUKf_JROURo

== Pistols used in The Duel ==

Hi, I just registered on imfdb to find information on the pistols used in [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1282041/ Anton Chekhov's The Duel]. The setting is supposed to be in 1890s Russia.

A few screen caps are online: [http://www.flix66.com/2011/05/28/movie-review-anton-chekhovs-the-duel-blu-ray/ the 2nd on this page], [http://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yxtrVFqQ1ro6ywf.png tumblr], [http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/theduelpistol1.jpg/ imageshack 1], and [http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/theduelpistol2.jpg/ imageshack 2]. --[[User:JustanID|JustanID]] ([[User talk:JustanID|talk]]) 19:15, 7 March 2013 (EST)

:It looks like a large caliber [[Flintlock Pistol]]. I don't recognize it as one used in other films but you can go through the films on that page to find a specific model. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 21:10, 7 March 2013 (EST)

::Thanks for the response, knowing it's large caliber is helpful. I looked through the pictures on [[Flintlock Pistol]], but [http://classic.gunauction.com/buy/11728452/ this] (different grip) is the closest I could find via GIS. --[[User:JustanID|JustanID]] ([[User talk:JustanID|talk]]) 23:22, 7 March 2013 (EST)

:::I enlarged the best of those photos. You should also keep in mind the film was shot in Croatia, so it would be good to start with your search limited to what's available in Eastern Europe. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 02:01, 8 March 2013 (EST)
[[File:ACTD-Flintlock.jpg]]

== Glock Experts? ==

Do we have any Glock experts in the house?? I am in the processes of doing seasons 3 & 4 of [[In Plain Sight]] and there are a LOT of Glocks used and there is a lot of confusion over whether they are 9mm (more common) or .40 cal (which is what the US Marshals use in real life). --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 21:32, 7 March 2013 (EST)

== IMDB Links (again) ==

Man, it's been a long time since I've posted here! Awesome to see over the years that this fabulous site is still going strong.

Anyway, to the point, which was previously brought up last year, (now in archive page 2), and generally deemed to be a good idea, namely to have IMDB links on all of the actor/movie/game pages. And, I guess, Wikipedia links on every page.

I for one would find it an essential feature, my movie watching experience invariably includes ''the other Wiki'', here and IMDB, although I usually come here first. :-) Without fail, something on one of your pages inspires me to follow up on IMDB or Wikipedia and I invariably spend several futile seconds looking for the links that aren't there. A fairly nasty oversized link to Amazon is all there is.

I'm afraid I'm no Wiki expert but isn't there a quick and easy way to generate IMDB links using Wiki code? Said other Wiki has an "IMDB" tag specifically for that effect, and code for linking to other Wikias, much as they do for linking back to "the master". Whether this can be done en masse or whether it would at best just be a cut/paste exercise I don't know, but if nothing else the template for new pages could be updated.

If all else fails, and if the code matched it might also be relatively straightforward to just lift the links directly from Wikipedia itself, saving time and effort.

Anyway, it's just a thought, given the frequency of references to Wiki and IMDB in the body of the articles here, it seems kinda crazy not to have an "External Links" section at the bottom of each page with the two links, easy to find and consistent. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]])

: I quite agree and actually I was going to post the same question on of these days. I take the freedom to think on IMFDB we should focus on gun-relevant matters and for details about actors/movie in general, refer to the experts of IMDB. We could thus possibly do away with story lines at the top (which most people ignore anyway) and personal details on the actor pages. Having clear links to IMDB movie/actor pages (if this has not been discussed earlier...) sounds like a great idea to me, further improving page quality on IMFDB and allowing contributors more time to focus on guns. Am interested to see what you guys think, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:01, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

:: See [http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1989 here]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:36, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

::: PeeWee's suggestions are excellent. And with the utmost respect to MoviePropMaster, I'm not entirely sure that's a particularly balanced argument. Boycotting a site just because it's commercial or has adverts seems a bit, well, spiteful. It's a universally recognised resource, just like Wikipedia, who have no problem linking to IMDB, despite also receiving no sponsorship.

::: The entire concept of Wikias is about linking together relevant information from any and all sources, in the most comprehensive and accessible way possible. Many Wikias, both official and homegrown, have ads as well - including this one. Does this mean that other people shouldn't link to this site as a result? I dislike ads as much as the next man but if I refused to support sites that used them I'd never go anywhere.

::: And just because I don't find a link to IMDB or Wiki isn't going to stop me from going there. Restrict functionality out of some antipathy towards IMDB, however, and you're just as likely to put people off coming here in the first place. It's a slippery slope, and akin to much of the bad press Wikipedia editors get for their often exclusionary and elitist behaviour. It costs the other Wiki a lot of credibility despite not being representative of the whole site, and so I still continue to support it as best I can.

::: And while I admit that IMFDB is not obliged to help IMDB earn revenue, that doesn't mean it can't use them as a resource for its own benefit. They make enough money either way, and really, do we care that much about other companies' profits? It's not like IMFDB is in competition with them.

::: Like MPM himself says, it's a valuable resource, just like Wikipedia, and it'd be a shame to overlook either of them. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]]) 06:11, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

:::: There is a difference between linking to the Wikipedia or IMDB article in order to prove something or because they have something relevant to say, and arbitrarily whacking a pair of links at the bottom of every single page. Whether it is via the use of a template or putting in raw links, it will take a hell of a lot of effort and time to put Wiki and IMDB links on every actor, television, film and video game page (particularly due to the fact that with IMDB links I don't think you can do it automatically, and have to actually go to the page and copy a numerical address), and without any incentive or financial reward for this site I really don't think it is worth it. That is just my opinion though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:56, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

After discussing with [[User:Bunni|Bunni]] (the site manager for those who don't know) a decision has been made. We are NOT going to link to IMDB on all pages by default. We have no issue with citing them and linking to them as a source, but we are NOT going to put links on every page just for the sake of information. There are a number of reasons for this but bottom line is that this is the decision. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 14:04, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

::Well, It's good to see there's no exclusionary and elitist behaviour on this Wiki. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]]) ''"This is a democracy. Which means you do everything I say."'' 23:13, 13 March 2013 (GMT)
:::No one is forcing you to stay. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:23, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
::::Never a more perfect nor predictable response, and the stereotype is complete. ''That's a bingo!'' [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]])

== Please help ID this shotgun ==

I'm not sure what this shotgun is. It's been listed as a replica of Remington 870 Tactical, but the ejection port is different. This shotgun looks similar to ones seen in ''[[E.T.]]'' and ''[[The Devil's Own]]''. Please help. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 15:58, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
[[File:RepShotgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:Looks like a variant or relative of the [[Remington Model 31]]:[[File:RemingtonModel31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:23, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
::Why does the ejection port remind me of a Winchester shotgun? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 16:25, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
:::It isn't the ejection port itself, but the slope at the rear of the bolt carrier that looks like a Winchester 1200. However, the bolt carrier of the Winchester has no visible extractor or that pin towards the rear, both of which match the Rem Mod 31. For some reason this bolt appears to have had some material machined away at the rear for some unknown reason. Possibly it is a clone made by a different manufacturer, it is a different variant or it is perhaps a deactivated shotgun (it is only broadly described as a "replica" and this is part of the process for this particular gun. Either way, I'm fairly sure the original gun is a Model 31 or derivative of some sort based on the shape of the trigger guard and bolt release, the scalloped part of the receiver at the front of the bottom edge, and the end of the magazine tube. The front position is wrong, but it looks odd to me as it is different to the rear one, so don't know what is going on with that. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:04, 13 March 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Main Page

2013-03-13T23:15:31Z

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''See [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_1]] and [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_2]] for older discussions''

== Can anyone identify this revolver? ==
[[File:HOM Johnson Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
--[[User:Crackshot|Crackshot]] ([[User talk:Crackshot|talk]]) 11:05, 14 February 2013 (EST)
::Doing some digging I'm pretty sure it's an M1917 revolver with pearl grips. Anyone else think so? --[[User:Crackshot|Crackshot]] ([[User talk:Crackshot|talk]]) 12:02, 14 February 2013 (EST)

== New AD space ==

Just letting you know that there are a few problems I've noticed with the new ad space in the upper right --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:52, 25 January 2013 (EST):

1. When looking at differences in revisions, the edits seen on the right are blocked by the new ad space.

2. In pages that don't have infoboxes, the ad space pushes down the poster picture, making it appear that the ad is part of the movie page. This is noticeable in actor pages and non-infobox pages.

: Thanks for informing. I did notice something odd on pages I created (both with and without infoboxes) but I could not figure out what. Should we do something or can will this be solved automatically? Cheers, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 08:07, 26 January 2013 (EST)

:: This is being tested, so if there are any other problems, please let us know. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 08:17, 26 January 2013 (EST)

Here are some examples of what happens with the non-infobox pages.

[[File:IMFDB ad 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[File:IMFDB ad 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

== Dynamic Article List ==

I've temporarily disabled dynamic article list while trying to track down a cpu spike. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 19:45, 27 January 2013 (EST)

== Weird image links ==

I know it's not a biggie for some people, but I like to enlarge some images and I found these a week or so ago:
*http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:MP5KA1.jpg
*http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Twotone_mp.jpg
They redirect to the Main Page inexplicably. There was a third one I found but I can't remember which one it was now. I'm not sure what's up with them but I thought I'd let you guys know. Thanks in advance - --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 10:23, 29 January 2013 (EST)

:The third was probably the claymore mine image, which I re-uploaded and it started working again. Might work with those two as well, I'll give it a try tomorrow if nobody else does it before me. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:32, 29 January 2013 (EST)

[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:AK47-PolyTechLegend.jpg This] image is broken too. It appears on the image page, but when you open it as full size it redirects to the main page. I can't find that MP5KA1 image I uploaded again, so if it can't be fixed will have to settle for uploading the 400px thumbnail version which the server still has. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:31, 29 January 2013 (EST)

Oh, yeah, this was the third one lol: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:P5Wood.jpg Thanks for getting back to me so fast :D --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] ([[User talk:Taurus96|talk]]) 15:04, 30 January 2013 (EST)

== Trivia Page? ==

I wondered if there was a Trivia Page on IMFDB, or if there should be one? I'd like to know things like: "''Most Common Firearm''" "''Youngest Actor/Actress To Hold A Firearm''" "''Most Firearms Used By An Actor/Actress''" "''Most Firearms Used In A Film''". Obviously, the answers would be according to IMFDB's current pages. [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 15:32, 31 January 2013 (EST)
:That kind of thing would be bit difficult to compile, and I don't know how many people would go out of their way to at a dedicated trivia page. The trivia section on the front page fulfills a similar purpose, in much more visible place. If you have any trivia to suggest, however, please let us know. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:18, 31 January 2013 (EST)

== Position of infobox on page ==

It's probably too simple for words, but I just cannot get my infoboxes positioned on the right side of the page. I have only started to use infoboxes for my last two movie pages ([[Preacher, The|The Preacher]] & [[Heineken Kidnapping, The|The Heineken Kidnapping]]) and even though I seem to be using the correct coding the infoboxes keep hanging somewhat in the middle of the page. Any suggestions for an infobox-rookie? Thanks in advance, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 17:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)
:It looks okay to me. Is there an ad pushing it towards the middle? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:30, 27 February 2013 (EST)
::Yes, in both cases there are indeed local ads pushing the infobox towards the middle. Let me know if there's something I can do about that. Thanks, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 02:36, 28 February 2013 (EST)

== New Game FPS TACTICAL INTERVECTION ==

weapons in trailer : P2000, G36CV, P90 and unknow sniper

Realease data 03.28.2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lUKf_JROURo

== Pistols used in The Duel ==

Hi, I just registered on imfdb to find information on the pistols used in [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1282041/ Anton Chekhov's The Duel]. The setting is supposed to be in 1890s Russia.

A few screen caps are online: [http://www.flix66.com/2011/05/28/movie-review-anton-chekhovs-the-duel-blu-ray/ the 2nd on this page], [http://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yxtrVFqQ1ro6ywf.png tumblr], [http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/theduelpistol1.jpg/ imageshack 1], and [http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/theduelpistol2.jpg/ imageshack 2]. --[[User:JustanID|JustanID]] ([[User talk:JustanID|talk]]) 19:15, 7 March 2013 (EST)

:It looks like a large caliber [[Flintlock Pistol]]. I don't recognize it as one used in other films but you can go through the films on that page to find a specific model. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 21:10, 7 March 2013 (EST)

::Thanks for the response, knowing it's large caliber is helpful. I looked through the pictures on [[Flintlock Pistol]], but [http://classic.gunauction.com/buy/11728452/ this] (different grip) is the closest I could find via GIS. --[[User:JustanID|JustanID]] ([[User talk:JustanID|talk]]) 23:22, 7 March 2013 (EST)

:::I enlarged the best of those photos. You should also keep in mind the film was shot in Croatia, so it would be good to start with your search limited to what's available in Eastern Europe. --[[User:Bunni|bunni]] ([[User talk:Bunni|talk]]) 02:01, 8 March 2013 (EST)
[[File:ACTD-Flintlock.jpg]]

== Glock Experts? ==

Do we have any Glock experts in the house?? I am in the processes of doing seasons 3 & 4 of [[In Plain Sight]] and there are a LOT of Glocks used and there is a lot of confusion over whether they are 9mm (more common) or .40 cal (which is what the US Marshals use in real life). --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 21:32, 7 March 2013 (EST)

== IMDB Links (again) ==

Man, it's been a long time since I've posted here! Awesome to see over the years that this fabulous site is still going strong.

Anyway, to the point, which was previously brought up last year, (now in archive page 2), and generally deemed to be a good idea, namely to have IMDB links on all of the actor/movie/game pages. And, I guess, Wikipedia links on every page.

I for one would find it an essential feature, my movie watching experience invariably includes ''the other Wiki'', here and IMDB, although I usually come here first. :-) Without fail, something on one of your pages inspires me to follow up on IMDB or Wikipedia and I invariably spend several futile seconds looking for the links that aren't there. A fairly nasty oversized link to Amazon is all there is.

I'm afraid I'm no Wiki expert but isn't there a quick and easy way to generate IMDB links using Wiki code? Said other Wiki has an "IMDB" tag specifically for that effect, and code for linking to other Wikias, much as they do for linking back to "the master". Whether this can be done en masse or whether it would at best just be a cut/paste exercise I don't know, but if nothing else the template for new pages could be updated.

If all else fails, and if the code matched it might also be relatively straightforward to just lift the links directly from Wikipedia itself, saving time and effort.

Anyway, it's just a thought, given the frequency of references to Wiki and IMDB in the body of the articles here, it seems kinda crazy not to have an "External Links" section at the bottom of each page with the two links, easy to find and consistent. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]])

: I quite agree and actually I was going to post the same question on of these days. I take the freedom to think on IMFDB we should focus on gun-relevant matters and for details about actors/movie in general, refer to the experts of IMDB. We could thus possibly do away with story lines at the top (which most people ignore anyway) and personal details on the actor pages. Having clear links to IMDB movie/actor pages (if this has not been discussed earlier...) sounds like a great idea to me, further improving page quality on IMFDB and allowing contributors more time to focus on guns. Am interested to see what you guys think, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:01, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

:: See [http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1989 here]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 05:36, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

::: PeeWee's suggestions are excellent. And with the utmost respect to MoviePropMaster, I'm not entirely sure that's a particularly balanced argument. Boycotting a site just because it's commercial or has adverts seems a bit, well, spiteful. It's a universally recognised resource, just like Wikipedia, who have no problem linking to IMDB, despite also receiving no sponsorship.

::: The entire concept of Wikias is about linking together relevant information from any and all sources, in the most comprehensive and accessible way possible. Many Wikias, both official and homegrown, have ads as well - including this one. Does this mean that other people shouldn't link to this site as a result? I dislike ads as much as the next man but if I refused to support sites that used them I'd never go anywhere.

::: And just because I don't find a link to IMDB or Wiki isn't going to stop me from going there. Restrict functionality out of some antipathy towards IMDB, however, and you're just as likely to put people off coming here in the first place. It's a slippery slope, and akin to much of the bad press Wikipedia editors get for their often exclusionary and elitist behaviour. It costs the other Wiki a lot of credibility despite not being representative of the whole site, and so I still continue to support it as best I can.

::: And while I admit that IMFDB is not obliged to help IMDB earn revenue, that doesn't mean it can't use them as a resource for its own benefit. They make enough money either way, and really, do we care that much about other companies' profits? It's not like IMFDB is in competition with them.

::: Like MPM himself says, it's a valuable resource, just like Wikipedia, and it'd be a shame to overlook either of them. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]]) 06:11, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

:::: There is a difference between linking to the Wikipedia or IMDB article in order to prove something or because they have something relevant to say, and arbitrarily whacking a pair of links at the bottom of every single page. Whether it is via the use of a template or putting in raw links, it will take a hell of a lot of effort and time to put Wiki and IMDB links on every actor, television, film and video game page (particularly due to the fact that with IMDB links I don't think you can do it automatically, and have to actually go to the page and copy a numerical address), and without any incentive or financial reward for this site I really don't think it is worth it. That is just my opinion though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:56, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

After discussing with [[User:Bunni|Bunni]] (the site manager for those who don't know) a decision has been made. We are NOT going to link to IMDB on all pages by default. We have no issue with citing them and linking to them as a source, but we are NOT going to put links on every page just for the sake of information. There are a number of reasons for this but bottom line is that this is the decision. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 14:04, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

::Well, It's good to see there's no exclusionary and elitist behaviour on this Wiki. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] ([[User talk:DamageW|talk]]) ''"This is a democracy. Which means you do everything I say."'' 23:13, 13 March 2013 (GMT)

== Please help ID this shotgun ==

I'm not sure what this shotgun is. It's been listed as a replica of Remington 870 Tactical, but the ejection port is different. This shotgun looks similar to ones seen in ''[[E.T.]]'' and ''[[The Devil's Own]]''. Please help. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 15:58, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
[[File:RepShotgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:Looks like a variant or relative of the [[Remington Model 31]]:[[File:RemingtonModel31.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:23, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
::Why does the ejection port remind me of a Winchester shotgun? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 16:25, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
:::It isn't the ejection port itself, but the slope at the rear of the bolt carrier that looks like a Winchester 1200. However, the bolt carrier of the Winchester has no visible extractor or that pin towards the rear, both of which match the Rem Mod 31. For some reason this bolt appears to have had some material machined away at the rear for some unknown reason. Possibly it is a clone made by a different manufacturer, it is a different variant or it is perhaps a deactivated shotgun (it is only broadly described as a "replica" and this is part of the process for this particular gun. Either way, I'm fairly sure the original gun is a Model 31 or derivative of some sort based on the shape of the trigger guard and bolt release, the scalloped part of the receiver at the front of the bottom edge, and the end of the magazine tube. The front position is wrong, but it looks odd to me as it is different to the rear one, so don't know what is going on with that. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:04, 13 March 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Main Page

2013-03-12T10:13:30Z

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Talk:Main Page

2013-03-12T10:11:16Z

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2013-03-12T07:06:22Z

DamageW: /* IMDB Links (again) */ new section

Tremors (1990)

2012-07-20T17:02:46Z

DamageW: /* Ruger Redhawk */ Grammar.

''' The following firearms were featured in the 1990 film, Tremors: '''

[[Image:Tremorsposter.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Tremors'' (1990)]]
__TOC__ 

=Shotguns=

== William Moore & Co. 8 gauge shotgun ==

Burt Gummer's ([[Michael Gross]]) "Elephant Gun" is a Belgian-made [[William Moore & Co. Shotgun 8 ga.|William Moore & Co. 8-gauge]] firing solid slugs. The shotgun was provided by Ellis Mercantile for the ''Tremors'' film. When it was thrown from the truck to the rock, it was dropped and the stock shattered at the wrist due to the 12.5 pounds that the shotgun weighs.
An interesting goof in the scene where Burt uses the gun to kill the graboid is that when he fires the gun, he has the stock under his arm instead of against his shoulder. If he had been firing actual 8ga. slugs, the recoil would've, at best, flung the gun out of his hands or, at worst, would've broken his wrist or flung the barrel of the gun up into his face.

[[Image:Tremor8ga.jpg|thumb|none|500px|William Moore 8ga. Shotgun used in Tremors]]
[[Image:TremorEgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt takes one of the solid slugs to load into his 8 gauge Elephant gun.]]
[[Image:TremorEgun2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt loads 2 slugs into his rifle.]]
[[Image:Tremors4034.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt with his 8 gauge at the ready. God help his face if he fires it like that.]]
[[Image:TremorEgun3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt rides the front of the bulldozer carrying his Elephant gun.]]

== Remington 870 ==
Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) uses a [[Remington 870]] to fire multiple shots at the Graboid in the rec room and then uses it to break the glass on the case containing the elephant gun.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg |thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Tremorwinm1300.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt fires the 870.]]

== Winchester 1200 with pistol grip ==

Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) uses this pistol-gripped [[Winchester Model 1300|Winchester 1200]] shotgun in Defender Configuration, to shoot off the tentacle of the Graboid attacking Burt in the rec room. The angled pistol grip attached to the back of the receiver makes it a Winchester.

[[Image:WinchesterModel1300Def.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester M1300 Defender with extended tube and pistol grip, similar to the 1200 except with an extended magazine tube and different foregrip.]]
[[Image:TremorWin1200def.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) uses the Winchester to blow a hole in the Graboid.]]

=Rifles=

== Heckler & Koch HK91 ==

Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) opens fire with the [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch HK91]] on the Graboid to no avail.

[[Image:HK_Model_91.jpg‎ |thumb|500px|none|HK91 Rifle with Standard Stock - 7.62 NATO]]
[[Image:Tremor91.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After the Steyr runs out, Burt opens up on the Graboid with the HK91.]]
[[Image:Tremor91a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt drops the HK91 after it runs out. This shot was done months after the end of principal photography on the special effects stage where they were filming the graboid puppet. In the film you see a brief glimpse of a foot, which is that of one of the technicians, not actor Michael Gross.]]

== Colt AR-15 Sporter II ==

Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) fires several magazines from a [[M16 rifle series|Colt AR-15 Sporter II]] at the attacking Graboid that breaks into the rec room. When abandoning his home, Burt pauses to ask Heather whether he should take a .458 rifle or an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2 rifle]], Heather advising him to take the .458 since it would have "better penetration". However, the weapon is not an M16A2; if you look closely at the rifle while it's on the wall, it has an [[M16A1]]-style upper receiver and slab-side lower receiver, which indicate it's an AR-15 Sporter II. None of the firearms used in the film were full auto guns. During this time in the 1980s, so called 'assault weapons' were easy to get from movie armories and you could walk out the door with them, the same as older weapons like WW2 rifles. You did not need a specially licensed armorer on set like movies had to get after the California AW ban.

[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A picture of a Colt SP1 with M16A1 upper and A2 handguards. This is NOT a Sporter II, but close enough until we can get a picture of a Sporter II - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Tremors 06MO.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) fires her AR-15 in the rec room scene, though in reality shooting any type of gun in that small of space would be deafening and even more so to the graboid since they claim it was highly sensitive to sound.]]
[[Image:TremorM16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"What do you think, max firepower or this?"'']]

== Winchester Model 1894 ==

This [[Winchester Model 1894|30-30 caliber lever-action rifle]] is found on Edgar's ([[Sunshine Parker]]) body who had died of dehydration on a tower. Val ([[Kevin Bacon]]) later uses it in the first encounter with the Graboids but ditches it when they're being chased.

[[Image:PheonixentWinchester1894.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30]]
[[Image:TremorM94a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Edgar ([[Sunshine Parker]]) is found on a tower holding the Winchester.]]
[[Image:TremorM94.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) takes up the Winchester.]]
[[Image:Tremors2008.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val ([[Kevin Bacon]]) takes aim with the Winchester.]]

== Winchester Model 70 ==

Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) has one of these [[Winchester Model 70]]s chambered in .375 H&H Mag with a scope in her possession and passes it off to Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) when he and Val are about to ride off to Bixby by horseback, he loses it however when his horse is attacked. Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) later totes another chambered in .458 Win Mag at the start of the rec room scene, she carries it again later as the town escapes to the mountains and fires a few rounds at some Graboid dirtmounds. She even says in the film it's a .458 and Burt should bring it due to its better penetration and less ammo to carry.
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]
[[Image:TremorM70.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) prepares to ride off with Heather Gummer's ([[Reba McEntire]]) scoped .375 H&H chambered [[Winchester Model 70]].]]
[[Image:Tremors 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) with her [[Winchester Model 70]] chambered in .458 Win Mag in the rec room scene.]]
[[Image:TremorsAbolt2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) holds her [[Winchester Model 70]] .458 Win Mag as town escapes to the mountains.]]

== Steyr-Mannlicher SSG-PII Rifle ==

When the Graboid first breaks into Burt and Heather's basement, Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) first uses his[[Steyr SSG|Steyr-Mannlicher SSG-PII Rifle]] on the worm before running empty and moving to the gun wall for more firepower.

[[File:SSG 69 10 round mag.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Steyr SSG 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:TremorUrifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) peers out his basement window searching for supposedly a monster with his Steyr-Mannlicher SSG-PII at the ready.]]

=Handguns=

== Micro Uzi ==

A [[Micro Uzi]] can be seen near the finale, when Val ([[Kevin Bacon]]) fires it over the side of the trailer at a Graboid under the dirt. It could be just a semi auto pistol version.

[[Image:MicroUziPistol02.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Micro Uzi with 32 round magazine - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TremorsUZI.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Earl passes off the micro-Uzi to Val.]]
[[Image:TremorsM19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Colt Single Action Army ==

Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) pulls a [[Colt Single Action Army]] from the glove compartment of the truck upon discovering the two road crew workers dead. It is later seen again in his possession when He and Val are about to ride off to Bixby.
[[Image:ColtSAA2ndGenNickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|2nd Generation Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model - Nickel plated model - .45 LC]]
[[Image:Tremors2001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Earl loads up the SAA as he and Val try to evade the Graboid.]]

== Smith & Wesson Model 28 ==

Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) has a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27 / 28|Smith & Wesson Model 28]] in his possession near the end of the film and fires multiple shots over the side of the old semi trailer as the Graboids attack.

[[Image:Model28HP2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 28 'Highway Patrolman' with 4" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:TremorsM19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) also takes a nickel [[SIG-Sauer P226]] off the wall to fire at the Graboid along with the Redhawk. She later appears to keep the SIG in her holster.
[[Image:SigP226Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A nickel SIG-Sauer P226 pistol chambered in 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Tremors4026.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) fires a nickel [[SIG-Sauer P226]] in her left hand while she fires a [[Ruger Redhawk]] in her right.]]

== Ruger Redhawk ==

Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) hands a [[Ruger_Redhawk_/_Super_Redhawk|Ruger Redhawk]] revolver off to Melvin ([[Robert Jayne]]) to get him motivated to run to the rocks. Melvin is mad once he finds out the revolver is unloaded when he attempts to fire it at the approaching Graboid dirt mounds. We're also given another example of Burt's firearm handling proficiency, when he takes his empty revolver back from Melvin, he checks it ''again'' to make sure it's still empty.

[[Image:RugerRedhawk.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum]]
[[Image:Tremors14.jpg|thumb|350px|none|A production still showing Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) handing Melvin ([[Robert Jayne]]) a [[Ruger Redhawk]] to motivate him to run to the rocks.]]
[[Image:Tremors2017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"Yo, Melvin - This'll make 'em think twice."'' Burt hands the empty Redhawk to Melvin.]]
[[Image:Tremors2016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Melvin complains about the Redhawk.]]

== Magnum Research Inc. Mark I Desert Eagle ==

Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) wears a [[Desert Eagle]] in a hip holster finished in Brushed Chrome for the remainder of the movie after the Graboid broke into his rec room in which it can also be seen on the gun wall in that scene and at one point Burt fires a few shots into the air from it from the rock in an attempt to distract a Graboid from the others. One was also see on the wall of the rec room.
[[Image:DesertEagleMarkIstainless.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A matte stainless Desert Eagle MK I - .357 Magnum.]]
[[Image:TremorsDE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Desert Eagle as seen on the wall of guns. Also note the Nambu Type 14 pistol and the Browning Hi-Power on the wall of guns.]]
[[Image:Tremors-DE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt firing his Desert Eagle in the air.]]

==M8 Flare Pistol==
An [[M8 Flare Pistol]] is taken off the gun wall by Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) and fired into the mouth of an attacking Graboid.
[[Image:M8FlarePistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M8 Flare Pistol 40mm]]
[[Image:Tremors-FlareGunWalla.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) rushes to grab an M8 Flare Pistol off of the gun wall.]]
[[Image:Tremors-FlareGunFireA.jpg‎||thumb|none|600px|Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) fires the M8 Flare Pistol into the mouth of a Graboid.]]

=Other=

== The Gummers' Wall of Guns ==
As the Gummer's reach for more firepower, the camera pulls back to reveal a massive wall of guns, most of them pistols and shotguns. Several times, the guns on the wall changes position. This scene was filmed over several days and (unfortunately) several locations which meant that the wall had to be re-built from scratch more than once.
[[Image:TremorsWOG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In this screencap, a nickeled M1911A1, two Walther P38s, one Luger P08, a flare pistol, a TT33, Browning Hi-Power, a Walther PPK, a Remington Model 870s, a .600 Nitro Express, a Browning Auto-5, and a Norinco Type 54 are among those visible.]]
[[Image:TremorsWOG2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Among the guns: various Smith & Wesson and Colt revolvers, a Desert Eagle, an M16A2, a Ruger Mini-14, a micro and full-size Uzi, a Winchester Model 1894, a Winchester Model 1894M (.22 magnum), a Remington Rolling Block, and a Daisy Red Rider bb gun..]]
[[Image:TremorsDE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Upper right: descending order L to R (handguns): Nambu Type 14, Ruger Mk 1, Browning HP, (TBD-Small Black handgun), Colt Woodsman, Nickel SIG-Sauer P228, S&W Model 36, 38 Derringer, Silver Desert Eagle, Webley Mk1, Colt SAA with Stag Grips, Ruger Stainless Redhawk Revolver, S&W Model 66 with Pachmayr grips 3" barrel, S&W Model 66 with 4" Barrel, S&W Model 686 with 5" Barrel.]]
[[Image:Tremors4017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From top to bottom: Chinese SKS with Pig sticker bayonet, Factory stock blued Ruger Mini-14, left to right: Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine with Metal heat shroud (note blued gun vs parkerized), Mil-Spec M1 Carbine, M1 Carbine in aftermarket underfolding stock, Ruger Mini-14 with Choate folding stock.]]
[[Image:Tremor91.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In center portion of the wall: (mounted horizontally in descending order) M1 Garand, Chinese SKS, a Ruger Mini-14, Uzi Model A/B Carbine.]]
[[Image:Tremors4019.jpg|thumb|none|600px|.]]
[[Image:Tremors2010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Also in the case along with the Elephant gun are some [[Smith & Wesson Model 1]] revolvers, a [[Single Action Army|Colt Single Action Army]], and a [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]].]]

==See Also==

'''Tremors series'''

*''[[Tremors]]''
*''[[Tremors 2: Aftershocks]]''
*''[[Tremors 3: Back to Perfection]]''
*''[[Tremors 4: The Legend Begins]]''
*''[[Tremors: The Series]]''

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Horror]]
[[Category:Comedy]]

Tremors (1990)

2012-07-20T17:02:10Z

DamageW: /* Ruger Redhawk */ Added another tip, credit to TVTropes for this one.

''' The following firearms were featured in the 1990 film, Tremors: '''

[[Image:Tremorsposter.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Tremors'' (1990)]]
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=Shotguns=

== William Moore & Co. 8 gauge shotgun ==

Burt Gummer's ([[Michael Gross]]) "Elephant Gun" is a Belgian-made [[William Moore & Co. Shotgun 8 ga.|William Moore & Co. 8-gauge]] firing solid slugs. The shotgun was provided by Ellis Mercantile for the ''Tremors'' film. When it was thrown from the truck to the rock, it was dropped and the stock shattered at the wrist due to the 12.5 pounds that the shotgun weighs.
An interesting goof in the scene where Burt uses the gun to kill the graboid is that when he fires the gun, he has the stock under his arm instead of against his shoulder. If he had been firing actual 8ga. slugs, the recoil would've, at best, flung the gun out of his hands or, at worst, would've broken his wrist or flung the barrel of the gun up into his face.

[[Image:Tremor8ga.jpg|thumb|none|500px|William Moore 8ga. Shotgun used in Tremors]]
[[Image:TremorEgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt takes one of the solid slugs to load into his 8 gauge Elephant gun.]]
[[Image:TremorEgun2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt loads 2 slugs into his rifle.]]
[[Image:Tremors4034.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt with his 8 gauge at the ready. God help his face if he fires it like that.]]
[[Image:TremorEgun3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt rides the front of the bulldozer carrying his Elephant gun.]]

== Remington 870 ==
Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) uses a [[Remington 870]] to fire multiple shots at the Graboid in the rec room and then uses it to break the glass on the case containing the elephant gun.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg |thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Tremorwinm1300.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt fires the 870.]]

== Winchester 1200 with pistol grip ==

Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) uses this pistol-gripped [[Winchester Model 1300|Winchester 1200]] shotgun in Defender Configuration, to shoot off the tentacle of the Graboid attacking Burt in the rec room. The angled pistol grip attached to the back of the receiver makes it a Winchester.

[[Image:WinchesterModel1300Def.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester M1300 Defender with extended tube and pistol grip, similar to the 1200 except with an extended magazine tube and different foregrip.]]
[[Image:TremorWin1200def.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) uses the Winchester to blow a hole in the Graboid.]]

=Rifles=

== Heckler & Koch HK91 ==

Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) opens fire with the [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch HK91]] on the Graboid to no avail.

[[Image:HK_Model_91.jpg‎ |thumb|500px|none|HK91 Rifle with Standard Stock - 7.62 NATO]]
[[Image:Tremor91.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After the Steyr runs out, Burt opens up on the Graboid with the HK91.]]
[[Image:Tremor91a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt drops the HK91 after it runs out. This shot was done months after the end of principal photography on the special effects stage where they were filming the graboid puppet. In the film you see a brief glimpse of a foot, which is that of one of the technicians, not actor Michael Gross.]]

== Colt AR-15 Sporter II ==

Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) fires several magazines from a [[M16 rifle series|Colt AR-15 Sporter II]] at the attacking Graboid that breaks into the rec room. When abandoning his home, Burt pauses to ask Heather whether he should take a .458 rifle or an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2 rifle]], Heather advising him to take the .458 since it would have "better penetration". However, the weapon is not an M16A2; if you look closely at the rifle while it's on the wall, it has an [[M16A1]]-style upper receiver and slab-side lower receiver, which indicate it's an AR-15 Sporter II. None of the firearms used in the film were full auto guns. During this time in the 1980s, so called 'assault weapons' were easy to get from movie armories and you could walk out the door with them, the same as older weapons like WW2 rifles. You did not need a specially licensed armorer on set like movies had to get after the California AW ban.

[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A picture of a Colt SP1 with M16A1 upper and A2 handguards. This is NOT a Sporter II, but close enough until we can get a picture of a Sporter II - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Tremors 06MO.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) fires her AR-15 in the rec room scene, though in reality shooting any type of gun in that small of space would be deafening and even more so to the graboid since they claim it was highly sensitive to sound.]]
[[Image:TremorM16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"What do you think, max firepower or this?"'']]

== Winchester Model 1894 ==

This [[Winchester Model 1894|30-30 caliber lever-action rifle]] is found on Edgar's ([[Sunshine Parker]]) body who had died of dehydration on a tower. Val ([[Kevin Bacon]]) later uses it in the first encounter with the Graboids but ditches it when they're being chased.

[[Image:PheonixentWinchester1894.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30]]
[[Image:TremorM94a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Edgar ([[Sunshine Parker]]) is found on a tower holding the Winchester.]]
[[Image:TremorM94.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) takes up the Winchester.]]
[[Image:Tremors2008.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val ([[Kevin Bacon]]) takes aim with the Winchester.]]

== Winchester Model 70 ==

Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) has one of these [[Winchester Model 70]]s chambered in .375 H&H Mag with a scope in her possession and passes it off to Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) when he and Val are about to ride off to Bixby by horseback, he loses it however when his horse is attacked. Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) later totes another chambered in .458 Win Mag at the start of the rec room scene, she carries it again later as the town escapes to the mountains and fires a few rounds at some Graboid dirtmounds. She even says in the film it's a .458 and Burt should bring it due to its better penetration and less ammo to carry.
[[Image:Pre64WinModel70.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester Model 70 - .30-06]]
[[Image:TremorM70.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) prepares to ride off with Heather Gummer's ([[Reba McEntire]]) scoped .375 H&H chambered [[Winchester Model 70]].]]
[[Image:Tremors 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) with her [[Winchester Model 70]] chambered in .458 Win Mag in the rec room scene.]]
[[Image:TremorsAbolt2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) holds her [[Winchester Model 70]] .458 Win Mag as town escapes to the mountains.]]

== Steyr-Mannlicher SSG-PII Rifle ==

When the Graboid first breaks into Burt and Heather's basement, Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) first uses his[[Steyr SSG|Steyr-Mannlicher SSG-PII Rifle]] on the worm before running empty and moving to the gun wall for more firepower.

[[File:SSG 69 10 round mag.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Steyr SSG 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:TremorUrifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) peers out his basement window searching for supposedly a monster with his Steyr-Mannlicher SSG-PII at the ready.]]

=Handguns=

== Micro Uzi ==

A [[Micro Uzi]] can be seen near the finale, when Val ([[Kevin Bacon]]) fires it over the side of the trailer at a Graboid under the dirt. It could be just a semi auto pistol version.

[[Image:MicroUziPistol02.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Micro Uzi with 32 round magazine - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TremorsUZI.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Earl passes off the micro-Uzi to Val.]]
[[Image:TremorsM19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Colt Single Action Army ==

Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) pulls a [[Colt Single Action Army]] from the glove compartment of the truck upon discovering the two road crew workers dead. It is later seen again in his possession when He and Val are about to ride off to Bixby.
[[Image:ColtSAA2ndGenNickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|2nd Generation Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model - Nickel plated model - .45 LC]]
[[Image:Tremors2001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Earl loads up the SAA as he and Val try to evade the Graboid.]]

== Smith & Wesson Model 28 ==

Earl ([[Fred Ward]]) has a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27 / 28|Smith & Wesson Model 28]] in his possession near the end of the film and fires multiple shots over the side of the old semi trailer as the Graboids attack.

[[Image:Model28HP2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 28 'Highway Patrolman' with 4" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:TremorsM19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==SIG-Sauer P226==
Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) also takes a nickel [[SIG-Sauer P226]] off the wall to fire at the Graboid along with the Redhawk. She later appears to keep the SIG in her holster.
[[Image:SigP226Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A nickel SIG-Sauer P226 pistol chambered in 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:Tremors4026.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) fires a nickel [[SIG-Sauer P226]] in her left hand while she fires a [[Ruger Redhawk]] in her right.]]

== Ruger Redhawk ==

Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) hands a [[Ruger_Redhawk_/_Super_Redhawk|Ruger Redhawk]] revolver off to Melvin ([[Robert Jayne]]) to get him motivated to run to the rocks. Melvin is mad once he finds out the revolver is unloaded when he attempts to fire it at the approaching Graboid dirt mounds. We're also given another example of Burt's firearms handling proficiency, when he takes his empty revolver back from Melvin, he checks it ''again'' to make sure it's still empty.

[[Image:RugerRedhawk.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum]]
[[Image:Tremors14.jpg|thumb|350px|none|A production still showing Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) handing Melvin ([[Robert Jayne]]) a [[Ruger Redhawk]] to motivate him to run to the rocks.]]
[[Image:Tremors2017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"Yo, Melvin - This'll make 'em think twice."'' Burt hands the empty Redhawk to Melvin.]]
[[Image:Tremors2016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Melvin complains about the Redhawk.]]

== Magnum Research Inc. Mark I Desert Eagle ==

Burt ([[Michael Gross]]) wears a [[Desert Eagle]] in a hip holster finished in Brushed Chrome for the remainder of the movie after the Graboid broke into his rec room in which it can also be seen on the gun wall in that scene and at one point Burt fires a few shots into the air from it from the rock in an attempt to distract a Graboid from the others. One was also see on the wall of the rec room.
[[Image:DesertEagleMarkIstainless.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A matte stainless Desert Eagle MK I - .357 Magnum.]]
[[Image:TremorsDE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Desert Eagle as seen on the wall of guns. Also note the Nambu Type 14 pistol and the Browning Hi-Power on the wall of guns.]]
[[Image:Tremors-DE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burt firing his Desert Eagle in the air.]]

==M8 Flare Pistol==
An [[M8 Flare Pistol]] is taken off the gun wall by Heather ([[Reba McEntire]]) and fired into the mouth of an attacking Graboid.
[[Image:M8FlarePistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M8 Flare Pistol 40mm]]
[[Image:Tremors-FlareGunWalla.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) rushes to grab an M8 Flare Pistol off of the gun wall.]]
[[Image:Tremors-FlareGunFireA.jpg‎||thumb|none|600px|Heather Gummer ([[Reba McEntire]]) fires the M8 Flare Pistol into the mouth of a Graboid.]]

=Other=

== The Gummers' Wall of Guns ==
As the Gummer's reach for more firepower, the camera pulls back to reveal a massive wall of guns, most of them pistols and shotguns. Several times, the guns on the wall changes position. This scene was filmed over several days and (unfortunately) several locations which meant that the wall had to be re-built from scratch more than once.
[[Image:TremorsWOG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In this screencap, a nickeled M1911A1, two Walther P38s, one Luger P08, a flare pistol, a TT33, Browning Hi-Power, a Walther PPK, a Remington Model 870s, a .600 Nitro Express, a Browning Auto-5, and a Norinco Type 54 are among those visible.]]
[[Image:TremorsWOG2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Among the guns: various Smith & Wesson and Colt revolvers, a Desert Eagle, an M16A2, a Ruger Mini-14, a micro and full-size Uzi, a Winchester Model 1894, a Winchester Model 1894M (.22 magnum), a Remington Rolling Block, and a Daisy Red Rider bb gun..]]
[[Image:TremorsDE.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Upper right: descending order L to R (handguns): Nambu Type 14, Ruger Mk 1, Browning HP, (TBD-Small Black handgun), Colt Woodsman, Nickel SIG-Sauer P228, S&W Model 36, 38 Derringer, Silver Desert Eagle, Webley Mk1, Colt SAA with Stag Grips, Ruger Stainless Redhawk Revolver, S&W Model 66 with Pachmayr grips 3" barrel, S&W Model 66 with 4" Barrel, S&W Model 686 with 5" Barrel.]]
[[Image:Tremors4017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From top to bottom: Chinese SKS with Pig sticker bayonet, Factory stock blued Ruger Mini-14, left to right: Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine with Metal heat shroud (note blued gun vs parkerized), Mil-Spec M1 Carbine, M1 Carbine in aftermarket underfolding stock, Ruger Mini-14 with Choate folding stock.]]
[[Image:Tremor91.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In center portion of the wall: (mounted horizontally in descending order) M1 Garand, Chinese SKS, a Ruger Mini-14, Uzi Model A/B Carbine.]]
[[Image:Tremors4019.jpg|thumb|none|600px|.]]
[[Image:Tremors2010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Also in the case along with the Elephant gun are some [[Smith & Wesson Model 1]] revolvers, a [[Single Action Army|Colt Single Action Army]], and a [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]].]]

==See Also==

'''Tremors series'''

*''[[Tremors]]''
*''[[Tremors 2: Aftershocks]]''
*''[[Tremors 3: Back to Perfection]]''
*''[[Tremors 4: The Legend Begins]]''
*''[[Tremors: The Series]]''

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[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Horror]]
[[Category:Comedy]]

Talk:Haywire

2012-07-01T06:43:06Z

DamageW: /* Red Tape on the Uzis? */

just a small thing the garda (An Garda Síochána) call their swat teams Emergency Response Unit (ERU) nothing big but just to let you know --[[User:Seekerdude|Seekerdude]] 17:36, 16 March 2012 (CDT)

== Mini-Uzi ==

That might be a Mini-Uzi in the equipment on the bed but in the cap above as well as in the trailers I have seen she is clearly firing a Micro-Uzi. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:58, 25 January 2012 (GMT)
:Promo image to prove it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:21, 25 January 2012 (CST)
:[[File:Haywire mivro uzi promo.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
The promo picture is a Micro, but the both picks on the main page seem to be Minis. Also, I've seen the movie and she and Aaron are both using the Mini.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 18:49, 25 January 2012 (CST)
:In the trailer it is a Micro as well:
:[[File:Haywire Micro trailer.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:Crappy screenshot, but if you look at the relationship between the front of the trigger guard and the barrel nut, there is no room for the handguard of a Mini. Also, you can just see the tip of the charging handle, which is too close to the front sight for a Mini. The barrel is longer than a regular Micro though, but from the promo images looks like this is a custom compensated barrel as cuts are visible and the muzzle flash is asymmetric. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:15, 25 January 2012 (CST)
:EDIT: Just looked into it, and apparently the ported barrels are the standard barrel on the Micro Uzi, which means that all the pictures on here are of the Uzi Pistol apart from this one:
:[[File:MicroUzi-2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
::Stupid question but...what are the red things stuck on the weapon? Any ideas? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:18, 25 January 2012 (CST)
:::Redelectrical tape, I think. It might be so you can tell your gun from your partner's, but I can't remember if both the Uzis had red tape. Alternativly, the tape is to write your name on.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 06:54, 26 January 2012 (CST)

==AllMoviePhoto==
I got some screencaps from allmoviephoto.com which are, unlike my caps, incredebly clear. (Seriously, the film seems to be deliberatly shot to deny you semi-decent screengrabs.) Am I OK to use them on the page, or is there a copyright issue I don't know about? For what's probalby the only film whose characters use the Micro Uzi's stock, there's precious few clear shots of it. The film goes black-and-white with music and no sound in the shootout, which totaly ruins the cool factor.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 15:25, 1 May 2012 (CDT)

==Red Tape on the Uzis?==
Does anyone have any idea why the uzis and a lot of other equipment they use in Barcelona have the red tape on them? I mean, I'm not a super spy/assassin or anything, but I just can't think of any practical reason for having bright, colorful tape on your weapons or gear like that. [[User:Travestytrav|Travestytrav]] 12:49, 17 May 2012 (CDT)
:There is red tape on some Glocks also but not on all. It could be to help the property dept. on location know what is a live gun and they forgot to remove the tape before filming. Once they do that it has to sty on for the rest of the shoot...--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 12:59, 17 May 2012 (CDT)
Thanks for answering (and asking!) the same question I had! :-) [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] 01:43, 1 July 2012 (CDT)

Constantine

2011-04-27T23:33:16Z

DamageW: /* John Constantine's Holy Shotgun */ Added one more detail.

[[Image:Constantine.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Constantine'' (2005)]]

'''The following guns were seen in the movie ''Constantine'':'''
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== John Constantine's Holy Shotgun ==
The [["Constantines' " Holy Shotgun|Holy Shotgun]] is seen as a firearm constructed out of Holy Relics, firing gold rifled slugs encased in engraved 12 gauge sized shells. It also has the "Dragon's Breath" flamethrower (see [[Constantine#Dragon.27s_Breath_Flamethrower|below]]) mounted beneath the barrel. Though based heavily on the '''Armsel Striker 12/SWD StreetSweeper shotgun''', it is not built on either one. The receiver is radically different in size and shape (quite a bit smaller and smoother on Constantine's gun). Also the ornately engraved drum magazines are shown as quick detachable and reloads (much like the drum magazine of a PPsH-41) but it 'spins' like the cylinder of a Single Action Army Revolver. None of the real world weapons have this capability, so it is a completely built prop weapon, using SOME real world parts, but for the most part is fictional.

[[Image:C-Constantine-Big-Gun-Pica.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Constantine wields the shotgun against his friend Midnite ([[Djimon Hounsou]]) to ask for a "favor". Note the [[Constantine#Dragon.27s_Breath_Flamethrower|Dragon's Breath]] mounted underneath. On top of the barrel is a flashlight.]]
[[Image:C-HolyShotgunGroundFighta.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the Holy Shotgun as Constantine ([[Keanu Reeves]]) fights Balthazar ([[Gavin Rossdale]]), a demon who is coincidentally also a lawyer.]]
[[Image:C-ConstantineSlugsA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Chaz Kramer ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) sets up rifled slugs for the "Holy Shotgun", all smelted out of gold relics.]]
[[Image:C-ConstantineBigGunDrumLoadA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|A view of the 12 shot 12 gauge drum cylinder for the '''Holy Shotgun''' - 12 gauge]]

An interesting note: Whereas Angela Dodson's ([[Rachel Weisz]]) S&W 3913 pistol fires a huge amount of shots without reloading, Constantine's shotgun has a ammo deficit. Despite each drum holding twelve rounds, Constantine only fires '''eight shots''' before he has to reload, and after reloading the second drum, he runs out of ammo in '''five shots'''. Either an editing mistake, or he has really bad primers....

[[Image:C-BigGunReloada.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|A shot of Constantine slapping in a new 12 round drum for the shotgun]]
[[Image:C-BigGun02a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|A new drum magazine inserted, Constantine is ready to go.]]

== Dragon's Breath Flamethrower ==
An ornate tube that shoots fire, given to Constantine by Beeman ([[Max Baker]]).
[[Image:C-DragonsBreathWand01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Beeman ([[Max Baker]]) give Constantine an ornate tube, warning him of the danger of handling it carelessly. He calls it "Dragon's Breath".]]
[[Image:C-DragonsBreathFiresA.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Constantine test fires the "Dragon's Breath".]]
[[Image:C-DragonsbreathAfterA.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|''"Hmm. I heard you couldn't get these any more ..."'']]

==Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"==
Chaz ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) carries a [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun#Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"|Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"]] with an 18" barrel and extended magazine tube.
[[Image:Mossberg500cruiser.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 "Cruiser" with heat shield - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:C-ShotgunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Chaz ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) with his Mossberg 500 "Cruiser" - 12 gauge]]

==Smith & Wesson 3913==
Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson 3913]] in several scenes, shown to be very ineffective against demons. During the fight in the pool, Angela's Smith & Wesson 3913 fires 33 shots without reloading, which is pretty good for a pistol that holds 8 round in the magazine.
[[Image:3913.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson 3913 - 9mm. 8 shot single stack magazine in a slimline frame.]]
[[Image:C-RachelGunLoadCarA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) loads up her 3913.]]
[[Image:C-RachelGun00A.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) realizes she is in a pool and aims her S&W 3913 - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-RachelGunPool01a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) aims her S&W 3913 at the ceiling - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-RachelPoolGun02A.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A side shot of her S&W 3913 - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-Rachelgun01a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) fires her S&W 3913 at a migrant Mexican (possessed and courier of the Spear of Destiny) but to no avail - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-RachelGun-2a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) firing a total of 33 shots from her 8 shot S&W 3913 - 9mm]]

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[[Category:Action Movie]]

Constantine

2011-04-27T23:13:12Z

DamageW: Link correction.

[[Image:Constantine.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Constantine'' (2005)]]

'''The following guns were seen in the movie ''Constantine'':'''
__TOC__ 

== John Constantine's Holy Shotgun ==
The [["Constantines' " Holy Shotgun|Holy Shotgun]] is seen as a firearm constructed out of Holy Relics, firing gold rifled slugs encased in engraved 12 gauge sized shells. It also has the "Dragon's Breath" flamethrower (see [[Constantine#Dragon.27s_Breath_Flamethrower|below]]) mounted beneath the barrel. Though based heavily on the '''Armsel Striker 12/SWD StreetSweeper shotgun''', it is not built on either one. The receiver is radically different in size and shape (quite a bit smaller and smoother on Constantine's gun). Also the ornately engraved drum magazines are shown as quick detachable and reloads (much like the drum magazine of a PPsH-41) but it 'spins' like the cylinder of a Single Action Army Revolver. None of the real world weapons have this capability, so it is a completely built prop weapon, using SOME real world parts, but for the most part is fictional.

[[Image:C-Constantine-Big-Gun-Pica.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Constantine wields the shotgun against his friend Midnite ([[Djimon Hounsou]]) to ask for a "favor". Note the [[Constantine#Dragon.27s_Breath_Flamethrower|Dragon's Breath]] mounted underneath.]]
[[Image:C-HolyShotgunGroundFighta.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the Holy Shotgun as Constantine ([[Keanu Reeves]]) fights Balthazar ([[Gavin Rossdale]]), a demon who is coincidentally also a lawyer.]]
[[Image:C-ConstantineSlugsA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Chaz Kramer ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) sets up rifled slugs for the "Holy Shotgun", all smelted out of gold relics.]]
[[Image:C-ConstantineBigGunDrumLoadA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|A view of the 12 shot 12 gauge drum cylinder for the '''Holy Shotgun''' - 12 gauge]]

An interesting note: Whereas Angela Dodson's ([[Rachel Weisz]]) S&W 3913 pistol fires a huge amount of shots without reloading, Constantine's shotgun has a ammo deficit. Despite each drum holding twelve rounds, Constantine only fires '''eight shots''' before he has to reload, and after reloading the second drum, he runs out of ammo in '''five shots'''. Either an editing mistake, or he has really bad primers....

[[Image:C-BigGunReloada.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|A shot of Constantine slapping in a new 12 round drum for the shotgun]]
[[Image:C-BigGun02a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|A new drum magazine inserted, Constantine is ready to go.]]

== Dragon's Breath Flamethrower ==
An ornate tube that shoots fire, given to Constantine by Beeman ([[Max Baker]]).
[[Image:C-DragonsBreathWand01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Beeman ([[Max Baker]]) give Constantine an ornate tube, warning him of the danger of handling it carelessly. He calls it "Dragon's Breath".]]
[[Image:C-DragonsBreathFiresA.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Constantine test fires the "Dragon's Breath".]]
[[Image:C-DragonsbreathAfterA.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|''"Hmm. I heard you couldn't get these any more ..."'']]

==Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"==
Chaz ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) carries a [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun#Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"|Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"]] with an 18" barrel and extended magazine tube.
[[Image:Mossberg500cruiser.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 "Cruiser" with heat shield - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:C-ShotgunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Chaz ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) with his Mossberg 500 "Cruiser" - 12 gauge]]

==Smith & Wesson 3913==
Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson 3913]] in several scenes, shown to be very ineffective against demons. During the fight in the pool, Angela's Smith & Wesson 3913 fires 33 shots without reloading, which is pretty good for a pistol that holds 8 round in the magazine.
[[Image:3913.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson 3913 - 9mm. 8 shot single stack magazine in a slimline frame.]]
[[Image:C-RachelGunLoadCarA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) loads up her 3913.]]
[[Image:C-RachelGun00A.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) realizes she is in a pool and aims her S&W 3913 - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-RachelGunPool01a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) aims her S&W 3913 at the ceiling - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-RachelPoolGun02A.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A side shot of her S&W 3913 - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-Rachelgun01a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) fires her S&W 3913 at a migrant Mexican (possessed and courier of the Spear of Destiny) but to no avail - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-RachelGun-2a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) firing a total of 33 shots from her 8 shot S&W 3913 - 9mm]]

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[[Category:Horror]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]

Constantine

2011-04-27T23:10:23Z

DamageW: Added extra info about the Holy Shotgun.

[[Image:Constantine.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Constantine'' (2005)]]

'''The following guns were seen in the movie ''Constantine'':'''
__TOC__ 

== John Constantine's Holy Shotgun ==
The [["Constantines' " Holy Shotgun|Holy Shotgun]] is seen as a firearm constructed out of Holy Relics, firing gold rifled slugs encased in engraved 12 gauge sized shells. It also has the "Dragon's Breath" flamethrower (see [[Constantine#Dragon_Breath_Flamethrower|below]]) mounted beneath the barrel. Though based heavily on the '''Armsel Striker 12/SWD StreetSweeper shotgun''', it is not built on either one. The receiver is radically different in size and shape (quite a bit smaller and smoother on Constantine's gun). Also the ornately engraved drum magazines are shown as quick detachable and reloads (much like the drum magazine of a PPsH-41) but it 'spins' like the cylinder of a Single Action Army Revolver. None of the real world weapons have this capability, so it is a completely built prop weapon, using SOME real world parts, but for the most part is fictional.

[[Image:C-Constantine-Big-Gun-Pica.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Constantine wields the shotgun against his friend Midnite ([[Djimon Hounsou]]) to ask for a "favor". Note the [[Constantine#Dragon_Breath_Flamethrower|Dragon's Breath]] mounted underneath.]]
[[Image:C-HolyShotgunGroundFighta.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the Holy Shotgun as Constantine ([[Keanu Reeves]]) fights Balthazar ([[Gavin Rossdale]]), a demon who is coincidentally also a lawyer.]]
[[Image:C-ConstantineSlugsA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Chaz Kramer ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) sets up rifled slugs for the "Holy Shotgun", all smelted out of gold relics.]]
[[Image:C-ConstantineBigGunDrumLoadA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|A view of the 12 shot 12 gauge drum cylinder for the '''Holy Shotgun''' - 12 gauge]]

An interesting note: Whereas Angela Dodson's ([[Rachel Weisz]]) S&W 3913 pistol fires a huge amount of shots without reloading, Constantine's shotgun has a ammo deficit. Despite each drum holding twelve rounds, Constantine only fires '''eight shots''' before he has to reload, and after reloading the second drum, he runs out of ammo in '''five shots'''. Either an editing mistake, or he has really bad primers....

[[Image:C-BigGunReloada.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|A shot of Constantine slapping in a new 12 round drum for the shotgun]]
[[Image:C-BigGun02a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|A new drum magazine inserted, Constantine is ready to go.]]

== Dragon's Breath Flamethrower ==
An ornate tube that shoots fire, given to Constantine by Beeman ([[Max Baker]]).
[[Image:C-DragonsBreathWand01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Beeman ([[Max Baker]]) give Constantine an ornate tube, warning him of the danger of handling it carelessly. He calls it "Dragon's Breath".]]
[[Image:C-DragonsBreathFiresA.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Constantine test fires the "Dragon's Breath".]]
[[Image:C-DragonsbreathAfterA.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|''"Hmm. I heard you couldn't get these any more ..."'']]

==Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"==
Chaz ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) carries a [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun#Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"|Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"]] with an 18" barrel and extended magazine tube.
[[Image:Mossberg500cruiser.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 "Cruiser" with heat shield - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:C-ShotgunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Chaz ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) with his Mossberg 500 "Cruiser" - 12 gauge]]

==Smith & Wesson 3913==
Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson 3913]] in several scenes, shown to be very ineffective against demons. During the fight in the pool, Angela's Smith & Wesson 3913 fires 33 shots without reloading, which is pretty good for a pistol that holds 8 round in the magazine.
[[Image:3913.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson 3913 - 9mm. 8 shot single stack magazine in a slimline frame.]]
[[Image:C-RachelGunLoadCarA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) loads up her 3913.]]
[[Image:C-RachelGun00A.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) realizes she is in a pool and aims her S&W 3913 - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-RachelGunPool01a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) aims her S&W 3913 at the ceiling - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-RachelPoolGun02A.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|A side shot of her S&W 3913 - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-Rachelgun01a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) fires her S&W 3913 at a migrant Mexican (possessed and courier of the Spear of Destiny) but to no avail - 9mm]]
[[Image:C-RachelGun-2a.jpg‎‎ |thumb|none|600px|Angela Dodson ([[Rachel Weisz]]) firing a total of 33 shots from her 8 shot S&W 3913 - 9mm]]

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[[Category:Science-Fiction]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]

(Constantine) - Holy Shotgun

2009-10-08T20:10:07Z

DamageW: Typo correction.

[[Image:C-Constantine-Big-Gun-Pica.jpg‎‎ |thumb|right|400px|Constantine wields the shotgun against his friend Midnite ([[Djimon Hounsou]]) to ask for a favor...]]
[[Image:C-HolyShotgunGroundFighta.jpg‎ |thumb|right|400px|Closeup of the Holy Shotgun as Constantine ([[Keanu Reeves]]) fights Balthazar ([[Gavin Rossdale]]), a demon, who unsurprisingly is also a lawyer.]]
[[Image:C-ConstantineSlugsA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|right|400px|Chas Kramer ([[Shia LaBeouf]]) sets up 12 gauge rifled slugs for the "Holy Shotgun", all smelted out of gold relics.]]
[[Image:C-ConstantineBigGunDrumLoadA.jpg‎‎ |thumb|right|400px|A view of the 12 shot 12 gauge drum cylinder for the '''Holy Shotgun''' - 12 gauge]]
In the film '''[[Constantine]]''', John Constantine ([[Keanu Reeves]]) carries an ornate shotgun, covered with engravings and religious symbols. The '''Holy Shotgun''' is seen as a firearm constructed out of Holy Relics, firing gold rifled slugs encased in engraved 12 gauge sized shells. Though based heavily on the Armsel Striker 12/SWD StreetSweeper shotgun, it is not built on either one. The receiver is radically different in size and shape (quite a bit smaller and smoother on Constantine's gun). Also the ornately engraved drum magazines are shown as quick detachable and reloads (much like the drum magazine of a PPsH-41) but it 'spins' like the cylinder of a Single Action Army Revolver. None of the real world weapons have this capability, so it is a completely built prop weapon, using SOME real world parts, but for the most part is fictional.

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Fictional Firearm]]

Talk:Sniper Elite (2005)

2009-07-27T20:07:02Z

DamageW: /* Better Experience */

==Bummer==

This game made me kind of mad. I saw hundreds of youtube videos which made the game look so cool, so I scoured eBay for months to find it. I eventually bought it for a ridiculous price of $50 even though the game was worth $20, and finally, I owned it.

I played it, and quickly learned it isn't as great as youtube made it look. Sure, the sniping is super realistic, but fire one shot and 50 Russians jump you before you can relocate or snipe anymore. If you turn the cheat on that silences the gun, it makes it more enjoyable. Ultimately I was let down somewhat. I got stuck on a really hard level and just stopped playing it eventually. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Better Experience==

I recently bought the PC version through Steam for about £15. It took me a fair while to get into it (the game can't entirely make up its mind whether it's a stealth game or an action game) but thus far I've been enjoying it, a few difficult sections notwithstanding. I agree that enemey AI is all over the shop, especially their unfailing ability to know where you are. However, there are some great mechanics (such as covering the sound of your shot with artillery fire so you can shoot without detection, and shooting through one target and killing the guy behind him) and it is pretty satisfying to pull off the good long range shots. Although why snipers in WW2 couldn't use the simple method of adjusting their sights based on range (as seen in Delta Force Land Warrior) I don't know... Maybe the tech wasn't there back then, but I'd be surprised.

As for being swarmed by the enemy, it does happen more than it should, I found that covering all but one of the access points to wherever you are with trip-grenades helped stop them from sneaking up on me, but on the whole I'd just find a spot where the enemy could only come from one compass direction and keep sniping them as fast as I could. Certainly flawed, and I haven't finished it yet (I'd say I'm 60-75% through) so I can't vouch for how bad it might get, but all in all I've enjoyed it, once I learned to make allowances for the game's tendency to cheat!

Incidentally, I like the fact that you can move silently despite having a rifle, an MG42, several grenades and explosives and a Panzershreck on your back. IF it was me I'd be banging them against every surface I went near... ;-) [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] 20:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I think this is a great page, insofar as it's here, and it answered exactly what I wanted to know, which is more than Wikipedia did! Thanks for creating it. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]]

Talk:Sniper Elite (2005)

2009-07-27T20:04:46Z

DamageW: /* Bummer */ Added my "two cents".

Talk:Black Hawk Down

2009-05-10T06:17:25Z

DamageW: /* Weapon used by delta force */ Query about picking up enemy magazines.

== Weapon used by delta force ==

M4 was issued in 1994 before the battle which took place in 1993 ...the weapon seen in the movie and used by Delta operators was CAR-15

: If you'll look at the upper reciever and carry handle/rear-sight assembly, you'll see they match the [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]]-style of the early-model M4 carbine as shown in the picture above the screenshots. The CAR-15 (also known as the [[M16 rifle series#Colt Commando Carbine|Colt Commando]]) used the recievers and carry handle/rear sight assembly of the [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, the stock is wrong for the CAR15...its an M4

Isn't it more likely that Randy Shughart was actually carrying a Springfield M21 rather than the M14?
:No, he was carrying a M14 during the actual battle and it is in his Medal of Honor citation. So its definitely a M14.

== Mistake? ==
There's a scene in the movie (1:37:53) where Yurek, Nelson and Twombly are about to rejoin the other Rangers at the Black Hawk crash site. While Yurek is on the radio to Eversmann (Josh Hartnett's character) he grabs a mag out of a Type 47 that a dead Somali soldier is still holding. Since the Rangers are all carrying 5.56 NATO M4A2s and FN Minimis, what would be the point of grabbing a 7.62mm mag? Seems like an odd oversight considering the camera kinda focuses on him taking the mag, and they've worked quite hard to maintain accuracy and detail in the film. Any ideas? Am I missing something? [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] 06:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Far Cry 2

2009-01-27T02:26:24Z

DamageW: Detailing a number of edits.

== AR-15 ==
Based on the burst fire and Picatinny rail, it seems to be an M16A4

::No, an M16A2 is the the burst fire one. The rails is a bit weird. And there's some kind of odd carrying handle kinda like the one you see on FALs.

True, but the M16A4 is the M16A2 with the Picatinny Rail. If you don't believe me, check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16A4#M16A4

No, if it is burst with a picatinny, it's an A4. A2's have a fixed handle, and are full auto, while an A3 has a removable handle and full-auto.

::Sorry, I forget sometimes. Never seen an A4 in action, an A2 isn't full auto. It's burst. The A1 and the A3 are the only full auto M16s not counting the original M16s. The A3 doesn't have a removable handle. That's why the A4 was created, but they switched back to burst.

Both the M16A3 and A4 models have removable carrying handles and a rail; however, the A3 is Full Auto and the A4 is Burst.

No, the A3 doesn't have the removable carrying handle, the A4 is the only one with the removable carrying handle [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Edits Summary==
Made a few edits to the page, detailed here:
*For some reason the last four items were sub-numbered as 26.1 26.2 etc, despite those entries having nothing to do with item 26.
*Added info about the bonus machetes.
*Added info about the AR-16 and made "Armalite" the primary name as that's the one most commonly used.
*Added info about gold AK-47s.
*Minor typographical and spelling edits, e.g. "fortune pack".
*Some minor grammatical changes ("in the game" as opposed to "in game") to make the article consistent.

Hope these are ok. [[User:DamageW|DamageW]] 02:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Far Cry 2

2009-01-27T02:24:19Z

DamageW: Made a number of edits, as detailed on the talk pages.

[[Category:Video Game]]

==Machete==
A simple machete. There are also two variants - "primitive" and "home-made" which can be unlocked.

==Makarov PM==
The [[Makarov PM]] appears in the game in standard and suppressed versions.

==Star Model-P==
The [[Star Model-P]] appears in the game.

==IMI Desert Eagle==
The [[Desert Eagle]], apparently in .50 AE, appears in the game.

==Ingram MAC-10==
The [[MAC-10]] appears in the game, in an as of yet unknown caliber.

==IMI Uzi==
The [[Uzi]] can be used as a secondary weapon

==M79==
The [[M79 grenade launcher]] can be used as a secondary weapon.

==H&K MP5SD==
The [[H&K MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5SD|H&K MP5SD]] appears in the game.

==Franchi SPAS-12==
The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] appears in the game. It fires in semi-auto mode only and holds 12 rounds (the real life version holds 8 rounds).

==Ithaca Model 37 "Homeland Security"==
The [[Ithaca 37]] can be used as a primary weapon. It is found on the arms dealer's website as "Homeland 37".

==Daewoo USAS-12==
The [[Daewoo USAS-12]] is a South Korean made combat shotgun capable of semi-automatic and fully-automatic fire. It too appears in the game.

==AK-47==
The [[AK-47]] is in the game, and features quite prominently on the box art. It does not have the extended muzzle, and therefore is not an AKM. The game also features a number of hidden "gold-plated" AK-47s, which are otherwise identical to the normal AK-47s except they have much higher durability.

==FN FAL==
The [[FN FAL]] appears in the game. For some reason it is named as the "Paratrooper" variant (folding stock) on the arms dealer's website, even though it has a fixed stock.

==H&K G3KA4==
The [[Heckler & Koch G3#H&K G3KA4|G3KA4]] carbine version of the [[Heckler & Koch G3|H&K G3]] appears in the game.

==Armalite AR-16 ==
This Gene Stoner designed rifle is available as a primary weapon, with an attached 3x scope. In the game it can only be fired in three-round bursts.

==Springfield M1903A4==
The [[Springfield 1903]] appears in the game as the M1903A4 sniper version.

==SVD Dragunov==
The [[SVD Dragunov]] appears in the game.

==Remington 700==
The [[Remington 700]] appears in the game with what appears to be a Leupold Mark IV M3 10 x 40 mm scope, it is unknown at this time whether it is chambered for .308 Winchester, 30.06, or some other cartridge.

==Accuracy International AS-50==
The [[Accuracy International AS-50]] is a British-made anti-material rifle chambered for .50 BMG. It is used by US special forces and can be found in the game.

==PKM==
The [[PK machine gun]] appears in the game.

==FN M249 SAW==
The [[M249 SAW]] appears in the game, in both man portable and emplaced versions.

==MGL-140==
This version of the [[Milkor MGL]] appears in game equipped with a red dot scope. It only holds 4 rounds (the real life version holds 6 rounds).

==RPG-7V==
The [[RPG-7]] appears in the game.

==FFV Carl Gustav==
The [[Carl Gustav]] is a Swedish-made 84mm man-portable multi-purpose recoilless rifle produced by Saab-Bofors. It too can be found in the game. It is a laser-guided missile-launcher capable of air-burst in-game. In real life it's an unguided recoilless grenade-launcher with some rocket-boosted rounds available.

==LPO-50 Flamethrower==
The [[LPO-50]] is a Russian-made flamethrower that can be found in the game.

==Browning M2HB==
The [[Browning M2]] appears in the game as an emplaced weapon mounted on vehicles. It has a significantly lower rate of fire than its real life counterpart.

==Mk. 19==
The [[Mk 19 grenade launcher]] appears in the game as an emplaced weapon mounted on vehicles.

==Sawed-Off Double Barreled Shotgun==
Availiable only with the "Fortunes Pack" expansion set.

==Remington 11-87==
Availiable only with the "Fortunes Pack" expansion set. Equipped with a pistol grip, and silencer.

==Crossbow==
Availiable only with the "Fortunes Pack" expansion set.