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Talk:Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

2014-08-19T12:12:13Z

Crimsonsguns: /* Where is the sling? */

== SMG ==

Not sure it is a Steyr. Ejection port is different and no top bolt. Might one of the PP or PM series.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 12:25, 4 September 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, about how it doesn't look like a Steyr, but I don't really see the PP or PM series in that SMG. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:39, 4 September 2012 (CDT)

::I glanced around and the best match I could find would be a Ruger MP9 with most of the grip removed and a Skorpion-style stock added. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:02, 4 September 2012 (CDT)

Comparing recent Gametrailers' pop up trailer and looking online, it does look more like a Steyr MPi 69 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 15:46, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

:Yeah, but in the shots we have the ribs on the side and the ejection port aren't right for the Steyr at all. I bet it's some ridiculously obscure subgun prototype or something. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 03:24, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

My guess is they are going for made up hybrids this time. With the rifle for example there is actually nothing on there that matches a real FNC, think it just got ID'd as that as it has a folding stock and is sort of the same general shape. If you look closely at the lower receiver it actually appears to be a bastardised malformed AR-15 lower. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:34, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
:I dunno, this is still supposed to be MSF as far as I'm aware, so it's in the past; could be a case of MSF having to go to fictional stuff after having invented every weapon and thing ever in the last game, I suppose. And actually I think that's the FAL model from Peace Walker with a 5.56mm STANAG stuck in it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:07, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

So far, none of the MGS games have resorted to fictional firearms aside from the ray guns and rail guns [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 12:02, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

:Thinking about it, is it possible it's some cheapy Airsoft FAL which is built around guts designed to go in an AR-15 platform and so needs to use a 5.56mm mag and have a front pivot? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 06:35, 9 September 2012 (EDT)
::That idea does seem like a stretch. I have never seen an "cheap" Airsoft FAL that is built to look like an AR and I've seen a lot of weird Airsoft when I was into it. Keep in mind, this is still a demo and they could still fix it to look more like an FNC, which is what I think they are trying for. And are we dead set on what the SMG really is without considering the MPi? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 11:42, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

I still think the AR is just a random hybrid gun rather than it being physically based on anything. It is kind of like they cobbled together random bits of models to make a gun in the ''shape'' of an FNC, so could be a place holder. As for the SMG, it appears to me to be mostly based on a malformed Uzi with a Skorpion style top folding stock added and a few parts omitted or changed. On first glance I know it doesn't really look like one but hear me out. First off are the sights, with the front and rear sights both having semi circular wings. Then there is the fact that it has the slot in the top of the receiver for the top mounted charging handle although the handle itself is absent and the top of the model has been flattened rather than keeping the humped Uzi receiver. The two short ribs at the rear of the receiver match the Uzi. Also above the pistol grip is a horizontal rectangular indent which is another telling Uzi feature. Finally in the last screenshot you can see that behind the pistol grip the receiver narrows like on the Uzi. I will admit that the final product doesn't look much like an Uzi what with it having a Skorpion folding wire stock and lacking the distinctive Uzi muzzle and handguards, but to me it appears that the "raw material" they were working from to make this gun was an Uzi. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:04, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

:Yeah, I thought Uzi as my second option, that indent is way closer to Uzi than the longer one on the MP9. As for the rifle...Tilting my head, it looks almost like it's supposed to be the missing (or rather nonexistent) link between the FAL and the SCAR. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:06, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

Grabbed a couple extra shots. Not really helpful in getting an ID, but it's something. --[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] ([[User talk:Lynx|talk]]) 23:53, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
[[File:MGSGZ-SMG1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:MGSGZ-SMG2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

This Photo had been included in "Metal Gear Solid 5 Fox Engine Tech Demo". Do you know a gun similar to this? This SMG make USSR? -- [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 17:31, 25 April 2013 (JST)
[[File:MGSV SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Just realized. That's not a photo. That's a render. It's all CG.-protoAuthor 20:54, 25 April 2013 (EDT)

::FOX Engine is amazing. I watched through the nearly one and a half hour presentation in one sitting. As far as the submachine gun is concerned it combines from the design elements of both a western, designed by Uziel Gal, MP9 and the Czechoslovakian Vz. 61, designed on the other side of the iron curtain by Miroslav Ribar. It's hard to determen it's origin, especially since it was made up by Kojima Production, but it was used by what were apparently US (or at least international) operatives in the trailers. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]]

The SMG looks the Uzi's predecessor, the vz.23 and it's variants. --[[User:ILY22UK|ILY22UK]] ([[User talk:ILY22UK|talk]]) 12:01, 18 May 2014 (EDT)

Which became the base Sz.-336 was real? This gun is '''RG-063 Baksan''' made by USSR. Design is similar. One of the gun that this was based? -- [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 20:11, 7 July 2014 (JST)
[[File:RG-063.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RG-063 "Baksan" - 9×21mm Gyurza]]

Am I the only one who thinks this SMG looks more like the "Kommando-LDP" (The South African variation on the SA.23) and not so much the other ones listed?!? -- [[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 14:10, 16 August 2014 (GMT)

I agree with ILY22UK and RedRobinAlpha. The Sz.-336 SMG (Sodomka zbrojovka Type 336 Submachine Gun) is inspired by Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod’s Sa Vz.23/CZ Model 25 and telescoping bolt sub-machine gun designs that it spawned. It's general shape is quite close to Cobra Mk.1 Pistol Carbine and also has elements from Kommando-LDP, Vz. 61 Skorpion, Bulawayo Armoury “Rhogun” and IMI Uzi (safety/fire-select on grip – Uzi is inspired by ZK 476 prototype and Sa.23-26 FYI). A firearm that's heavily inspired by Sa.23 is appropriate, since at least one arc of MGSV takes place in Southern African continent where Sa.23-likes were heavily utilized in it's wars. In-general, the weapon is a functional stand-in for MGS4 & MGS:PW's Vz.61/82 Skorpion – easily wielded but weak small-caliber SMG that can be fitted with a suppressor. [[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]]) 03:45, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:There are links to Rhogun and Cobra carbine pictures in the SA.23 submachine gun series page on this wiki. http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/SA.23_submachine_gun_series
: [[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]])

== BIG BOSS's rifle ==

Is Snake with the rifle wonder why truly FN FAL Paratrooper? I think that HAC-7. - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] 16:17, 13 September 2012 (JST)

[[File:MGSGZFNFNC.jpeg|none|400px|thumb|Snake with the rifle.]]
[[File:HAC-7.jpg|none|400px|thumb|HAC-7 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

:It does actually bear quite a good resemblance to the [http://www.biggerhammer.net/hac7/pictorial/ HAC-7C] (assuming it would be the carbine version as the suppressor goes all the way back to the front sight) but there are some differences. Firstly it is the wrong caliber, the HAC-7 is a .308 feeding from AR-10 magazines rather than this which has a regular 30 round .223 mag. The stock is also wrong being of a more conventional FAL type, and the gun has an AR-15 pistol grip as opposed to the FAL type on the HAC-7. This gun is close enough that it ''might'' be what they were going for, but not a single part is actually a match for the real gun, it is just the same general shape and layout. Part of this might be the fact that the gun is so rare that they could not find much reference material for it, but not sure that is really an excuse as after 5 minuted on google I was able to find pictured good enough to show that there model is wrong. Again, could just be a place-holder model though. Regardless,if it turns out that it is a HAC-7 of some sort this is a totally bizarre choice, using a gun that only about 300 were made which was never designed or trialled for military use, it is just one of those random rare civillian guns made by a Texas gunsmith. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 03:53, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

While the gun seems to be a combination of parts from different weapons, wouldn't the FAL style receiver and 5.56 mm magazine indicate that it's (at least somewhat) based on the IMBEL MD-97? --[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] ([[User talk:Lynx|talk]]) 23:49, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

[[File:Imbel MD 97.jpg|none|400px|thumb|IMBEL MD-97 - 5.56x45mm]]

The [[IMBEL MD-97]] wouldn't be that impossible looks pretty much like the screenshot, was made for the Brazilian Army, and its special forces and chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO. However it was not made until 1997 but it wouldn't be the first time anachronisms appeared in MGS unless you meant the earlier (but still anachronistic) IMBEL MD.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:28, 19 September 2012 (EDT)

:The annoying thing about this gun is it looks "pretty much" like quite a few things, but exactly like nothing. If you look at any part and compare it to the MD-97 it is different, with the exception of the magazine itself, and possibly the stock if you were feeling generous. I'm sticking with hybrid, possibly standing in for something else. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:20, 19 September 2012 (EDT)

Im not sure when this happen but someone said it was a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_88 St.Kinetics SR-88] and put it on the main page but I changed it back to Commando's description.

[[File:SR-88.jpg|thumb|none|450px|St.Kinetics SR-88 assault rifle - 5.56x45]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:03, 27 March 2013 (EDT)

This Photo had been included in "Metal Gear Solid 5 Fox Engine Tech Demo". What you see this rifle ? -- [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 17:31, 25 April 2013 (JST)

[[File:MGSV AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:: What about the INSAS? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KW-cEgSriVY/ToL9OPqlMKI/AAAAAAAACc8/PM-PvC0mTf0/s1600/Kalantak+Micro+Assault+Rifle+INSAS+5.56+mm+micro+assault+rifle+CQB+%2526+Personnel+Defence+Weapon+Role+Assault+Rifle+Indian+Small+Arms+System%2529+iIndian+State+Ordnance+Factory+Board.jpg

:::KALANTAK seemed like a good match at first glance, yet there are still quite a lot of things that make it an unlikely candidate. Besides the obvious differences in the hand guard shape of the back sights, pistol grip and the trigger guard, the lower receiver is more akin to an AR clone. The other important factor why it's doubtful it represents KALANTAK or any INSAS derivative is that the base rifle only came into adoption during the vary latest of nineties, while the events of MGSV take place in the mid-80s. Just like with the submachine gun above, I have a premonition we'll be seeing a few similarly fictive, but appropriately plausible firearms in the retail version. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 08:00, 26 April 2013 (EDT)

Looks a bit like a Daewoo DR200 http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/Daewoo/DR-200-1.jpg or a Bushmaster Assault Rifle http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/Stottman/Bushy1.jpg [[User:Recon42|Recon42]] ([[User talk:Recon42|talk]]) 14:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)

My theory is that "Arms Material Rifle Type 69" - as well as the MRS-4 - is mainly based-off 5.56 assault rifles that use Armalite AR-16 as it's design base - Armalite AR-18, SAR-80, SR-88, Howa Type 89, Sterling SAR-87, LD T2 MK5 etc. - as well as sharing slight similarities with 5.56 AR-10 derivatives and other rifle designs inspired by both. The in-game "Arms Material" brand seems to be a fusion of Colt and Armalite, both which are the core innovators of AR-10, AR-15 and AR-18 rifle design. Type 69 is the full-sized assault rifle and MRS-4 (Multi-purpose Rifle System model 4) is the carbine version, that also seems to be an early attempt at “Modular Close Combat Carbine”/proto-SOPMOD weapons system (hey, it's MGS after all!) In-game; AM MRS-4 Rifle and AM Rifle Type 69 probably double for MGS Peace Walker's Colt Model 653 and Colt M16A1 respectively, and in addition the MRS-4 seems to also share similar functionality as MGS4's M4 Custom.
[[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]]) 04:36, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
:The handguard resembles Guntec USA type free-floating smooth handguard with Knurled Grip (designed for .223/5.56 AR-15 rifles) [[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]]) 04:16, 31 July 2014 (EDT)
:[[File:GuntecUsa_Midlength_Handguard4-15.jpg|250px|thumb|none|Guntec Usa Model 4/ 15 Midlength Free Floating Smooth Handguard with Knurled Grip]]

==Game now titled MGS5==

This game is now officially called Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 23:06, 27 March 2013 (EDT)
*Not exactly: Jay Boor stated they are still two separate games. Here's the source: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/27/the-phantom-pain-and-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-are-two-separate-games/#6eJtQjLEJ9DWuyBo.99/ [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 23:19, 27 March 2013 (EDT)

And then in the second update it says he can't confirm anything, while Kojima said that "Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain together make MGSV." which implies that they're both the same game, Boor most likely made an error, and I'd take Kojima's word since he's the one who actually worked on the game whereas Boor is not, so I think the title should be changed. [[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] ([[User talk:Kornflakes89|talk]]) 12:52, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:Maybe we should just wait until something truly solid comes along. This page has already been moved and then moved back within the last 24 hours. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:55, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

Wait I just screencaped the latest trailer but was it MSG5 or MGSGZ?--[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 14:24, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

Well according to the Wikia of MGS, it states that both are the same game. The two games were believed (mostly by the press) to be separate until they were officially announced to be one during the 2013 Game Developers Conference [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 19:49, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:Konami seems to disagree, and even Kojima hinted that they were still two separate games (his claim that the opening of TPP was a tutorial session at the beginning, despite claiming in the same twitter post that GZ is a prologue of TPP). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:33, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::He still doesn't specify whether it's one game or two separate games though, as for Konami's PR guy Boor, he didn't seem too sure of what he stated in the updates to the article as I said before and with the recent interview with Kojima not saying much to imply that it's two separate releases, I think it's safe to say it's one game. [[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] ([[User talk:Kornflakes89|talk]]) 04:10, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

[http://www.destructoid.com/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-launching-spring-2014-264871.phtml The word has come down that this is now a separate game.] --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)

== TGS demo ==

Looks like the weapons are all fictional hybrids similar to Resident Evil 6. In the live demo the FNC type rifle was called the MRS-4 and the SAR-80 lookalike the "AM Rifle Type 69" (no, not that Type 69). Bit of a waste. :( [[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 07:24, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

Let's hope when the game actually came out, they'll make the weapons more realistic. It's weird all the guns look so fake because the previous games even the PSP Peacewalker game, the guns were all based on the real models. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 13:09, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yes, especially considering that GZ/TPP takes place directly between PW and the MSX2 games. At least with MGRR's use of fictitious weapons, it was acceptable because it took place well into the future of not only real-life, but in-universe as well. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 10:13, 24 November 2013 (EST)

==Where is the sling?==

I've seen this game on the PS4 and I keep wondering...where the hell is the sling that Snake has on his rifle? Seriously, next gen graphics and processing power and they can't render a sling on a rifle?! I also hate how we are limited to 2 types of weapon choices. It's almost like MGS is trying to be like Splinter Cell [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:44, 19 March 2014 (EDT)

:A freely-hanging sling on a rifle in a video game requires that a lot of stuff be programmed in (more specifically making collision boxes around each sling-equipped-rifle-using character and the gun itself that the sling can't go through, otherwise you could end up with the sling going through the character's body, the gun, or even itself, plus a physics systems to emulate its weight and mass) for very little gain. Gaming budgets are getting pretty tight these days, and so visual features like these are understandably considered low priorities. To get a sense of the difficulties involved, go track down a clip of the Joker from [[Batman: Arkham City]] accepting his award during the 2011 VGA ceremonies, and pay attention to the chain just above his left thigh. It suddenly pops into existence only when he stands up, having clipped right through his leg while he was sitting down! And this is from a AAA game title with a very generous budget!--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

The genome soldiers the The twin snakes had 3 point slings included on the FAMAS, but is was only a simple surface that stretched between two points and frequently clipped. its visible in this cutscene http://youtu.be/a01GJ74X_R4?t=2h10m47s --[[User:Crimsonsguns|Crimsonsguns]] ([[User talk:Crimsonsguns|talk]]) 08:12, 19 August 2014 (EDT)

==Unidentified M1911==
I think the M1911 is actually a browning HP as seen here http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:MGS5_Guns.jpg
The frame appears to be very similar to a Sig Sauer, possibly the P210

Apparently it isn't anything. Like all the other guns, this pistol is entirely made up. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 11:00, 28 March 2014 (EDT)

I agree. Ive looked through all my Jane's gun recognition guides, and it looks like a mix of Browning BDA, Colt 1911, and S&W Model 39. The programmers just took the best bits of all three by the look of it. No bad thing though. I decided to just tag it as its marked in the game.
[[User:R-110]]

==Lazy designs and anachronisms abound==

I am mixed saying they are both creative and lazy at the same time. They took the time to create all these fakey guns but too lazy to use real guns. The game takes place in 1975. I wanna see the FAL, H&K 33, SIG rifles, or bring back the M16 variants.

I also have a problem with how "modern" the gun handling and gear. Guards are wearing helmets too advanced for the time frame and every gun has a flashlight attached before it is common place. Uniforms and rigs of the "spec ops" types and the Motherbase personnel are also too advanced. The helicopter that XOF uses look like Blackhawks. I don't even what to begin with Big Boss's Idroid that displays a hologram. What happened to Metal Gear like it was back in MGS3 when the most anachronistic thing we had to complain about was the M16 had a 3 round burst and the Beta mag in the Patriot? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:29, 29 March 2014 (EDT)

Is it possible that maybe Motosada Mori, his military advisor, advice Hideo Kojima to not using real guns as to avoid future implication on MGSV being one of the source of gun violence in the future? Because having dark and mature theme like revenge as a game theme is already bad enough.

::That doesn't sound reasonable. Guns are guns. How does not having real guns take away from the violence and grim themes of the story? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 10:32, 31 March 2014 (EDT)

Well I just look at it psychologically, because as stated by Kojima in [http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=13583 here], this story is about hero became an evil threatening the entire world. Kojima maybe feared that one of the gamer who played this could became bad for real in the future.

I know this is a stretch, maybe a long one. So we have to wait for someone interview Kojima himself as to why this is the first time he made such gun design, as people know that Kojima is perfectionist to detail. [[User:Johnny Akiba|Johnny Akiba]] ([[User talk:Johnny Akiba|talk]]) 11:50, 31 March 2014 (EDT)

:Having fictional guns doesn't change the tone of the story. The GI Joe and Transformers movies all have real guns in them with people dying left and right, yet they're still essentially live-action cartoons. The most obviously reasonable explanation is that the fictional guns are intended to circumvent any copyright claims. And revenge stories aren't strictly "adult" material either, nor are they anything new in video games. It's how you write the story that determines the audience it's suitable for. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 12:32, 25 June 2014 (EDT)

Also if you've seen the trailer, Big Boss pulls a fucking bomb out of Paz's stomach and there was another one in her body as well. Also I don't think the fictional guns are to avoid copy rights. Basically some gun companies are pushing to not have the NAMES of their guns used in games but most of the time, they don't care cause their guns are being advertised for free anyway. That also doesn't explain why the AK is...whatever it is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 22:45, 25 June 2014 (EDT)

Maybe because of [http://www.guns.com/2013/05/08/video-game-publisher-stops-licencing-guns-will-use-them-anyway/ this news] that Kojima decide to enlist professional help from Tokyo Marui. Rather than just follow what some other video game maker do, it's safer to just take some parts from other guns and give it a brand new name. [[User:Johnny Akiba|Johnny Akiba]] ([[User talk:Johnny Akiba|talk]]) 16:12, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
:That make the guns in this game even more confusion. TM is a very high quality Airsoft manufacturer and they have some of the more accurate Airsoft of real guns I have ever seen. None of the in game models use the guns from TM at all. They don't even have an FNC type rifle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 23:20, 20 July 2014 (EDT)
::I don't get this either, if they wanted to create new fictional weapons I have no idea why they would go to TM as this is not what they do. They create faithful replicas of real weapons, as far as I know they have never made fantasy weapons from scratch so I have no idea why Kojima would think they were the people for the job. Anime or game designers would have much more experience at this sort of thing than an airsoft company, the only reason I could think they would have anything to do with TM is if they wanted TM to produce airsoft replicas of the fictional weapons from this game, but I really cant see that happening. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:54, 21 July 2014 (EDT)

Can we just talk about how dumb it is to say that the developers are "lazy" for ''designing their own custom firearms that look like real designs'' rather than simply copying existing ones? [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:26, 20 July 2014 (EDT)

:Lazy as in "they used to create 3D models of firearms very faithful to the real-life versions, but now are mish-mashing designs for no apparent rhyme or reason." Firearm violence in games is firearm violence in games; it doesn't make it any less violent if you use fictional, non-realistic designs. They could use the Pulse Rifles from [[Aliens]] in this game and it would still be similarly pointless, if their objective was to make the game somehow "less violent." I still preferred it like MGS3 when they used mostly-historically-appropriate firearms. Things starting getting strange on the "Metal Gear Firearms Front" ever since the release of [[Peace Walker]]. [[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 14:28, 20 July 2014 (EDT)
:: Laziness doesn't even factor into it! If anything it's "lazier" to just directly copy an existing weapon; some modelers even outright take the textures straight off of photographs of the guns instead of creating their own. Making a custom design from scratch takes more effort and imagination, the absolute antithesis of laziness. Criticize the use of fictional guns all you want, but calling it "lazy" is just plain bizarre. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:34, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
:Not entirely; it used to be an MGS tradition to have realistic-modelled and historically-grounded weaponry. That still takes a level of research. Designing fictional firearms that look at least ''somewhat'' realistic is not very difficult. As an example, many anime studios have been doing so for ages, and many of the resultant designs even manage to look aesthetically pleasing. The lazy bit comes from the abandonment of the tradition of including realistic, historically-accurate firearms--to at least some of us, this was a good feature of the series that should not have been discarded. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 22:50, 14 August 2014 (EDT)

== URGAN-5 ==

Wasn't there an experimental Soviet revolver that fired from the bottom chamber? I can't remember what it looked like but I'm fairly sure that it fired shotgun shells, I believe it was designed for the Cosmonauts but lost out to the TP-82 --[[User:ILY22UK|ILY22UK]] ([[User talk:ILY22UK|talk]]) 17:34, 13 April 2014 (EDT)
::I think you mean revolver TOZ-81 Mars. URGAN-5 other gun.--[[User:Sea lion|Sea lion]] ([[User talk:Sea lion|talk]]) 06:10, 15 August 2014 (EDT)

==Jeep mounted MG==

It kinda looks likes a 1919 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 10:06, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

2014-08-19T12:11:42Z

Crimsonsguns: /* Where is the sling? */

== SMG ==

Not sure it is a Steyr. Ejection port is different and no top bolt. Might one of the PP or PM series.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 12:25, 4 September 2012 (CDT)

:Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, about how it doesn't look like a Steyr, but I don't really see the PP or PM series in that SMG. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 12:39, 4 September 2012 (CDT)

::I glanced around and the best match I could find would be a Ruger MP9 with most of the grip removed and a Skorpion-style stock added. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:02, 4 September 2012 (CDT)

Comparing recent Gametrailers' pop up trailer and looking online, it does look more like a Steyr MPi 69 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 15:46, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

:Yeah, but in the shots we have the ribs on the side and the ejection port aren't right for the Steyr at all. I bet it's some ridiculously obscure subgun prototype or something. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 03:24, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

My guess is they are going for made up hybrids this time. With the rifle for example there is actually nothing on there that matches a real FNC, think it just got ID'd as that as it has a folding stock and is sort of the same general shape. If you look closely at the lower receiver it actually appears to be a bastardised malformed AR-15 lower. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:34, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
:I dunno, this is still supposed to be MSF as far as I'm aware, so it's in the past; could be a case of MSF having to go to fictional stuff after having invented every weapon and thing ever in the last game, I suppose. And actually I think that's the FAL model from Peace Walker with a 5.56mm STANAG stuck in it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:07, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

So far, none of the MGS games have resorted to fictional firearms aside from the ray guns and rail guns [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 12:02, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

:Thinking about it, is it possible it's some cheapy Airsoft FAL which is built around guts designed to go in an AR-15 platform and so needs to use a 5.56mm mag and have a front pivot? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 06:35, 9 September 2012 (EDT)
::That idea does seem like a stretch. I have never seen an "cheap" Airsoft FAL that is built to look like an AR and I've seen a lot of weird Airsoft when I was into it. Keep in mind, this is still a demo and they could still fix it to look more like an FNC, which is what I think they are trying for. And are we dead set on what the SMG really is without considering the MPi? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 11:42, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

I still think the AR is just a random hybrid gun rather than it being physically based on anything. It is kind of like they cobbled together random bits of models to make a gun in the ''shape'' of an FNC, so could be a place holder. As for the SMG, it appears to me to be mostly based on a malformed Uzi with a Skorpion style top folding stock added and a few parts omitted or changed. On first glance I know it doesn't really look like one but hear me out. First off are the sights, with the front and rear sights both having semi circular wings. Then there is the fact that it has the slot in the top of the receiver for the top mounted charging handle although the handle itself is absent and the top of the model has been flattened rather than keeping the humped Uzi receiver. The two short ribs at the rear of the receiver match the Uzi. Also above the pistol grip is a horizontal rectangular indent which is another telling Uzi feature. Finally in the last screenshot you can see that behind the pistol grip the receiver narrows like on the Uzi. I will admit that the final product doesn't look much like an Uzi what with it having a Skorpion folding wire stock and lacking the distinctive Uzi muzzle and handguards, but to me it appears that the "raw material" they were working from to make this gun was an Uzi. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:04, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

:Yeah, I thought Uzi as my second option, that indent is way closer to Uzi than the longer one on the MP9. As for the rifle...Tilting my head, it looks almost like it's supposed to be the missing (or rather nonexistent) link between the FAL and the SCAR. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:06, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

Grabbed a couple extra shots. Not really helpful in getting an ID, but it's something. --[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] ([[User talk:Lynx|talk]]) 23:53, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
[[File:MGSGZ-SMG1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:MGSGZ-SMG2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

This Photo had been included in "Metal Gear Solid 5 Fox Engine Tech Demo". Do you know a gun similar to this? This SMG make USSR? -- [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 17:31, 25 April 2013 (JST)
[[File:MGSV SMG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Just realized. That's not a photo. That's a render. It's all CG.-protoAuthor 20:54, 25 April 2013 (EDT)

::FOX Engine is amazing. I watched through the nearly one and a half hour presentation in one sitting. As far as the submachine gun is concerned it combines from the design elements of both a western, designed by Uziel Gal, MP9 and the Czechoslovakian Vz. 61, designed on the other side of the iron curtain by Miroslav Ribar. It's hard to determen it's origin, especially since it was made up by Kojima Production, but it was used by what were apparently US (or at least international) operatives in the trailers. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]]

The SMG looks the Uzi's predecessor, the vz.23 and it's variants. --[[User:ILY22UK|ILY22UK]] ([[User talk:ILY22UK|talk]]) 12:01, 18 May 2014 (EDT)

Which became the base Sz.-336 was real? This gun is '''RG-063 Baksan''' made by USSR. Design is similar. One of the gun that this was based? -- [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 20:11, 7 July 2014 (JST)
[[File:RG-063.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RG-063 "Baksan" - 9×21mm Gyurza]]

Am I the only one who thinks this SMG looks more like the "Kommando-LDP" (The South African variation on the SA.23) and not so much the other ones listed?!? -- [[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 14:10, 16 August 2014 (GMT)

I agree with ILY22UK and RedRobinAlpha. The Sz.-336 SMG (Sodomka zbrojovka Type 336 Submachine Gun) is inspired by Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod’s Sa Vz.23/CZ Model 25 and telescoping bolt sub-machine gun designs that it spawned. It's general shape is quite close to Cobra Mk.1 Pistol Carbine and also has elements from Kommando-LDP, Vz. 61 Skorpion, Bulawayo Armoury “Rhogun” and IMI Uzi (safety/fire-select on grip – Uzi is inspired by ZK 476 prototype and Sa.23-26 FYI). A firearm that's heavily inspired by Sa.23 is appropriate, since at least one arc of MGSV takes place in Southern African continent where Sa.23-likes were heavily utilized in it's wars. In-general, the weapon is a functional stand-in for MGS4 & MGS:PW's Vz.61/82 Skorpion – easily wielded but weak small-caliber SMG that can be fitted with a suppressor. [[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]]) 03:45, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:There are links to Rhogun and Cobra carbine pictures in the SA.23 submachine gun series page on this wiki. http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/SA.23_submachine_gun_series
: [[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]])

== BIG BOSS's rifle ==

Is Snake with the rifle wonder why truly FN FAL Paratrooper? I think that HAC-7. - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] 16:17, 13 September 2012 (JST)

[[File:MGSGZFNFNC.jpeg|none|400px|thumb|Snake with the rifle.]]
[[File:HAC-7.jpg|none|400px|thumb|HAC-7 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

:It does actually bear quite a good resemblance to the [http://www.biggerhammer.net/hac7/pictorial/ HAC-7C] (assuming it would be the carbine version as the suppressor goes all the way back to the front sight) but there are some differences. Firstly it is the wrong caliber, the HAC-7 is a .308 feeding from AR-10 magazines rather than this which has a regular 30 round .223 mag. The stock is also wrong being of a more conventional FAL type, and the gun has an AR-15 pistol grip as opposed to the FAL type on the HAC-7. This gun is close enough that it ''might'' be what they were going for, but not a single part is actually a match for the real gun, it is just the same general shape and layout. Part of this might be the fact that the gun is so rare that they could not find much reference material for it, but not sure that is really an excuse as after 5 minuted on google I was able to find pictured good enough to show that there model is wrong. Again, could just be a place-holder model though. Regardless,if it turns out that it is a HAC-7 of some sort this is a totally bizarre choice, using a gun that only about 300 were made which was never designed or trialled for military use, it is just one of those random rare civillian guns made by a Texas gunsmith. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 03:53, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

While the gun seems to be a combination of parts from different weapons, wouldn't the FAL style receiver and 5.56 mm magazine indicate that it's (at least somewhat) based on the IMBEL MD-97? --[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] ([[User talk:Lynx|talk]]) 23:49, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

[[File:Imbel MD 97.jpg|none|400px|thumb|IMBEL MD-97 - 5.56x45mm]]

The [[IMBEL MD-97]] wouldn't be that impossible looks pretty much like the screenshot, was made for the Brazilian Army, and its special forces and chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO. However it was not made until 1997 but it wouldn't be the first time anachronisms appeared in MGS unless you meant the earlier (but still anachronistic) IMBEL MD.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 16:28, 19 September 2012 (EDT)

:The annoying thing about this gun is it looks "pretty much" like quite a few things, but exactly like nothing. If you look at any part and compare it to the MD-97 it is different, with the exception of the magazine itself, and possibly the stock if you were feeling generous. I'm sticking with hybrid, possibly standing in for something else. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:20, 19 September 2012 (EDT)

Im not sure when this happen but someone said it was a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_88 St.Kinetics SR-88] and put it on the main page but I changed it back to Commando's description.

[[File:SR-88.jpg|thumb|none|450px|St.Kinetics SR-88 assault rifle - 5.56x45]]
[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 17:03, 27 March 2013 (EDT)

This Photo had been included in "Metal Gear Solid 5 Fox Engine Tech Demo". What you see this rifle ? -- [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 17:31, 25 April 2013 (JST)

[[File:MGSV AR.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:: What about the INSAS? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KW-cEgSriVY/ToL9OPqlMKI/AAAAAAAACc8/PM-PvC0mTf0/s1600/Kalantak+Micro+Assault+Rifle+INSAS+5.56+mm+micro+assault+rifle+CQB+%2526+Personnel+Defence+Weapon+Role+Assault+Rifle+Indian+Small+Arms+System%2529+iIndian+State+Ordnance+Factory+Board.jpg

:::KALANTAK seemed like a good match at first glance, yet there are still quite a lot of things that make it an unlikely candidate. Besides the obvious differences in the hand guard shape of the back sights, pistol grip and the trigger guard, the lower receiver is more akin to an AR clone. The other important factor why it's doubtful it represents KALANTAK or any INSAS derivative is that the base rifle only came into adoption during the vary latest of nineties, while the events of MGSV take place in the mid-80s. Just like with the submachine gun above, I have a premonition we'll be seeing a few similarly fictive, but appropriately plausible firearms in the retail version. --[[User:BeloglaviSup|BeloglaviSup]] ([[User talk:BeloglaviSup|talk]]) 08:00, 26 April 2013 (EDT)

Looks a bit like a Daewoo DR200 http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/Daewoo/DR-200-1.jpg or a Bushmaster Assault Rifle http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/Stottman/Bushy1.jpg [[User:Recon42|Recon42]] ([[User talk:Recon42|talk]]) 14:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)

My theory is that "Arms Material Rifle Type 69" - as well as the MRS-4 - is mainly based-off 5.56 assault rifles that use Armalite AR-16 as it's design base - Armalite AR-18, SAR-80, SR-88, Howa Type 89, Sterling SAR-87, LD T2 MK5 etc. - as well as sharing slight similarities with 5.56 AR-10 derivatives and other rifle designs inspired by both. The in-game "Arms Material" brand seems to be a fusion of Colt and Armalite, both which are the core innovators of AR-10, AR-15 and AR-18 rifle design. Type 69 is the full-sized assault rifle and MRS-4 (Multi-purpose Rifle System model 4) is the carbine version, that also seems to be an early attempt at “Modular Close Combat Carbine”/proto-SOPMOD weapons system (hey, it's MGS after all!) In-game; AM MRS-4 Rifle and AM Rifle Type 69 probably double for MGS Peace Walker's Colt Model 653 and Colt M16A1 respectively, and in addition the MRS-4 seems to also share similar functionality as MGS4's M4 Custom.
[[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]]) 04:36, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
:The handguard resembles Guntec USA type free-floating smooth handguard with Knurled Grip (designed for .223/5.56 AR-15 rifles) [[User:TrickShotFinn|TrickShotFinn]] ([[User talk:TrickShotFinn|talk]]) 04:16, 31 July 2014 (EDT)
:[[File:GuntecUsa_Midlength_Handguard4-15.jpg|250px|thumb|none|Guntec Usa Model 4/ 15 Midlength Free Floating Smooth Handguard with Knurled Grip]]

==Game now titled MGS5==

This game is now officially called Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 23:06, 27 March 2013 (EDT)
*Not exactly: Jay Boor stated they are still two separate games. Here's the source: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/27/the-phantom-pain-and-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-are-two-separate-games/#6eJtQjLEJ9DWuyBo.99/ [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 23:19, 27 March 2013 (EDT)

And then in the second update it says he can't confirm anything, while Kojima said that "Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain together make MGSV." which implies that they're both the same game, Boor most likely made an error, and I'd take Kojima's word since he's the one who actually worked on the game whereas Boor is not, so I think the title should be changed. [[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] ([[User talk:Kornflakes89|talk]]) 12:52, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:Maybe we should just wait until something truly solid comes along. This page has already been moved and then moved back within the last 24 hours. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:55, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

Wait I just screencaped the latest trailer but was it MSG5 or MGSGZ?--[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 14:24, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

Well according to the Wikia of MGS, it states that both are the same game. The two games were believed (mostly by the press) to be separate until they were officially announced to be one during the 2013 Game Developers Conference [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 19:49, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
:Konami seems to disagree, and even Kojima hinted that they were still two separate games (his claim that the opening of TPP was a tutorial session at the beginning, despite claiming in the same twitter post that GZ is a prologue of TPP). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:33, 28 March 2013 (EDT)
::He still doesn't specify whether it's one game or two separate games though, as for Konami's PR guy Boor, he didn't seem too sure of what he stated in the updates to the article as I said before and with the recent interview with Kojima not saying much to imply that it's two separate releases, I think it's safe to say it's one game. [[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] ([[User talk:Kornflakes89|talk]]) 04:10, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

[http://www.destructoid.com/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-launching-spring-2014-264871.phtml The word has come down that this is now a separate game.] --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)

== TGS demo ==

Looks like the weapons are all fictional hybrids similar to Resident Evil 6. In the live demo the FNC type rifle was called the MRS-4 and the SAR-80 lookalike the "AM Rifle Type 69" (no, not that Type 69). Bit of a waste. :( [[User:Temp89|Temp89]] ([[User talk:Temp89|talk]]) 07:24, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

Let's hope when the game actually came out, they'll make the weapons more realistic. It's weird all the guns look so fake because the previous games even the PSP Peacewalker game, the guns were all based on the real models. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 13:09, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

:Yes, especially considering that GZ/TPP takes place directly between PW and the MSX2 games. At least with MGRR's use of fictitious weapons, it was acceptable because it took place well into the future of not only real-life, but in-universe as well. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 10:13, 24 November 2013 (EST)

==Where is the sling?==

I've seen this game on the PS4 and I keep wondering...where the hell is the sling that Snake has on his rifle? Seriously, next gen graphics and processing power and they can't render a sling on a rifle?! I also hate how we are limited to 2 types of weapon choices. It's almost like MGS is trying to be like Splinter Cell [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 17:44, 19 March 2014 (EDT)

:A freely-hanging sling on a rifle in a video game requires that a lot of stuff be programmed in (more specifically making collision boxes around each sling-equipped-rifle-using character and the gun itself that the sling can't go through, otherwise you could end up with the sling going through the character's body, the gun, or even itself, plus a physics systems to emulate its weight and mass) for very little gain. Gaming budgets are getting pretty tight these days, and so visual features like these are understandably considered low priorities. To get a sense of the difficulties involved, go track down a clip of the Joker from [[Batman: Arkham City]] accepting his award during the 2011 VGA ceremonies, and pay attention to the chain just above his left thigh. It suddenly pops into existence only when he stands up, having clipped right through his leg while he was sitting down! And this is from a AAA game title with a very generous budget!--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

The genome soldiers the The twin snakes had 3 point slings included on the FAMAS, but is was only a simple surface that stretched between two points and frequently clipped. its visible in this cutscene http://youtu.be/a01GJ74X_R4?t=2h10m47s

==Unidentified M1911==
I think the M1911 is actually a browning HP as seen here http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:MGS5_Guns.jpg
The frame appears to be very similar to a Sig Sauer, possibly the P210

Apparently it isn't anything. Like all the other guns, this pistol is entirely made up. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 11:00, 28 March 2014 (EDT)

I agree. Ive looked through all my Jane's gun recognition guides, and it looks like a mix of Browning BDA, Colt 1911, and S&W Model 39. The programmers just took the best bits of all three by the look of it. No bad thing though. I decided to just tag it as its marked in the game.
[[User:R-110]]

==Lazy designs and anachronisms abound==

I am mixed saying they are both creative and lazy at the same time. They took the time to create all these fakey guns but too lazy to use real guns. The game takes place in 1975. I wanna see the FAL, H&K 33, SIG rifles, or bring back the M16 variants.

I also have a problem with how "modern" the gun handling and gear. Guards are wearing helmets too advanced for the time frame and every gun has a flashlight attached before it is common place. Uniforms and rigs of the "spec ops" types and the Motherbase personnel are also too advanced. The helicopter that XOF uses look like Blackhawks. I don't even what to begin with Big Boss's Idroid that displays a hologram. What happened to Metal Gear like it was back in MGS3 when the most anachronistic thing we had to complain about was the M16 had a 3 round burst and the Beta mag in the Patriot? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:29, 29 March 2014 (EDT)

Is it possible that maybe Motosada Mori, his military advisor, advice Hideo Kojima to not using real guns as to avoid future implication on MGSV being one of the source of gun violence in the future? Because having dark and mature theme like revenge as a game theme is already bad enough.

::That doesn't sound reasonable. Guns are guns. How does not having real guns take away from the violence and grim themes of the story? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 10:32, 31 March 2014 (EDT)

Well I just look at it psychologically, because as stated by Kojima in [http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=13583 here], this story is about hero became an evil threatening the entire world. Kojima maybe feared that one of the gamer who played this could became bad for real in the future.

I know this is a stretch, maybe a long one. So we have to wait for someone interview Kojima himself as to why this is the first time he made such gun design, as people know that Kojima is perfectionist to detail. [[User:Johnny Akiba|Johnny Akiba]] ([[User talk:Johnny Akiba|talk]]) 11:50, 31 March 2014 (EDT)

:Having fictional guns doesn't change the tone of the story. The GI Joe and Transformers movies all have real guns in them with people dying left and right, yet they're still essentially live-action cartoons. The most obviously reasonable explanation is that the fictional guns are intended to circumvent any copyright claims. And revenge stories aren't strictly "adult" material either, nor are they anything new in video games. It's how you write the story that determines the audience it's suitable for. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 12:32, 25 June 2014 (EDT)

Also if you've seen the trailer, Big Boss pulls a fucking bomb out of Paz's stomach and there was another one in her body as well. Also I don't think the fictional guns are to avoid copy rights. Basically some gun companies are pushing to not have the NAMES of their guns used in games but most of the time, they don't care cause their guns are being advertised for free anyway. That also doesn't explain why the AK is...whatever it is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 22:45, 25 June 2014 (EDT)

Maybe because of [http://www.guns.com/2013/05/08/video-game-publisher-stops-licencing-guns-will-use-them-anyway/ this news] that Kojima decide to enlist professional help from Tokyo Marui. Rather than just follow what some other video game maker do, it's safer to just take some parts from other guns and give it a brand new name. [[User:Johnny Akiba|Johnny Akiba]] ([[User talk:Johnny Akiba|talk]]) 16:12, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
:That make the guns in this game even more confusion. TM is a very high quality Airsoft manufacturer and they have some of the more accurate Airsoft of real guns I have ever seen. None of the in game models use the guns from TM at all. They don't even have an FNC type rifle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 23:20, 20 July 2014 (EDT)
::I don't get this either, if they wanted to create new fictional weapons I have no idea why they would go to TM as this is not what they do. They create faithful replicas of real weapons, as far as I know they have never made fantasy weapons from scratch so I have no idea why Kojima would think they were the people for the job. Anime or game designers would have much more experience at this sort of thing than an airsoft company, the only reason I could think they would have anything to do with TM is if they wanted TM to produce airsoft replicas of the fictional weapons from this game, but I really cant see that happening. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 07:54, 21 July 2014 (EDT)

Can we just talk about how dumb it is to say that the developers are "lazy" for ''designing their own custom firearms that look like real designs'' rather than simply copying existing ones? [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 12:26, 20 July 2014 (EDT)

:Lazy as in "they used to create 3D models of firearms very faithful to the real-life versions, but now are mish-mashing designs for no apparent rhyme or reason." Firearm violence in games is firearm violence in games; it doesn't make it any less violent if you use fictional, non-realistic designs. They could use the Pulse Rifles from [[Aliens]] in this game and it would still be similarly pointless, if their objective was to make the game somehow "less violent." I still preferred it like MGS3 when they used mostly-historically-appropriate firearms. Things starting getting strange on the "Metal Gear Firearms Front" ever since the release of [[Peace Walker]]. [[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 14:28, 20 July 2014 (EDT)
:: Laziness doesn't even factor into it! If anything it's "lazier" to just directly copy an existing weapon; some modelers even outright take the textures straight off of photographs of the guns instead of creating their own. Making a custom design from scratch takes more effort and imagination, the absolute antithesis of laziness. Criticize the use of fictional guns all you want, but calling it "lazy" is just plain bizarre. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 13:34, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
:Not entirely; it used to be an MGS tradition to have realistic-modelled and historically-grounded weaponry. That still takes a level of research. Designing fictional firearms that look at least ''somewhat'' realistic is not very difficult. As an example, many anime studios have been doing so for ages, and many of the resultant designs even manage to look aesthetically pleasing. The lazy bit comes from the abandonment of the tradition of including realistic, historically-accurate firearms--to at least some of us, this was a good feature of the series that should not have been discarded. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 22:50, 14 August 2014 (EDT)

== URGAN-5 ==

Wasn't there an experimental Soviet revolver that fired from the bottom chamber? I can't remember what it looked like but I'm fairly sure that it fired shotgun shells, I believe it was designed for the Cosmonauts but lost out to the TP-82 --[[User:ILY22UK|ILY22UK]] ([[User talk:ILY22UK|talk]]) 17:34, 13 April 2014 (EDT)
::I think you mean revolver TOZ-81 Mars. URGAN-5 other gun.--[[User:Sea lion|Sea lion]] ([[User talk:Sea lion|talk]]) 06:10, 15 August 2014 (EDT)

==Jeep mounted MG==

It kinda looks likes a 1919 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 10:06, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

Hellsing

2012-11-01T16:19:06Z

Crimsonsguns: Corrected blimp to zeppelin A zeppelin has a rigid internal frame wheras a blimps shape is sustained solely through internal air pressure.

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[[Image:HellsingTVcover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Hellsing'' (Television Series) (2001 - 2002)]]
[[Image:Hellsignposter.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Hellsing Ultimate'' (OVA Series) (2006 - ongoing)]]

Hellsing, like many anime, started as a manga series. Written by Kouta Hirano, the story revolves on an English organization called Hellsing, based on the original Van Helsing. It's mission is obvious; to hunt down vampires and other supernatural threats to England.

The first anime adaptation of the franchise was in the form of a 13 episode long television series from Gonzo Studio in 2001. The result was somewhat tame compared to the manga, and wound up moving past all of the material that Hirano had written approximately halfway through its 13 episodes. This meant that Gonzo was forced to fabricate their own ending which differed greatly from the manga. The series also suffered from uneven animation quality as a result of budget issues.

In 2006, a new adaptation of the manga was released, this time taking the form of an OVA series. Originally animated by Satelight Studios (parts 1 through 4) and now by Madhouse Studios (parts 5 and onward), the OVA titled ''Hellsing Ultimate'' features the same voice cast as the original series, but is a much closer adaptation of the manga than its predecessor and boasts a greatly improved budget, stricter animation quality control, and no censored material.

As both the television series and the OVA contain many of the same weapons, both are listed here. Weapons exclusive to one adaptation or another are noted as such.

'''The following weapons were used in the anime series ''Hellsing'' and the anime OVA ''Hellsing Ultimate'':'''
== Handguns ==

=== Hellsing Arms .454 Casull===
Alucard's signature weapon is the '''Hellsing Arms .454 Casull''' (unofficially known as the ''"Joshua"''). This weapon is the first custom handgun made by Hellsing, and was specifically designed by Walter. It's essentially a very big semiautomatic pistol, with a length of 39cm. It's chambered for the mighty .454 Casull round, which finds use primarily in hunting large game, such as deer and bears. Of course, these bullets are special, being made out of silver obtained from melted holy relics, with an exploding property as well, making for a rather devastating cartridge against the legions of the night. The Casull is believed to be based upon the Colt 1911 (or its variants like the longslide), however it also bears a resemblance to early model Colt pistols. In some close ups, one may note that the hammer is never fully cocked, indicative of either a double action or fast-action mechanism similar to the Daewoo DP51. The lengthy barrel and slide gives this gun incredible accuracy, and the weight at the front of the gun makes the massive round significantly more controllable. Something this extreme suits Alucard perfectly.

Trivia: During the flashbacks to World War II (specifically 1945) seen in much of the OVA's promotional material, Alucard is seen using this same weapon. This is anachronistic, as the .454 Casull round was developed in 1957.

[[Image:454casullzd3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hellsing Arms "Joshua" - .454 Casull]]
[[Image:454casullzd32.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alucard's .454 in the original anime]]
[[Image:HSJoshua.jpg|thumb|none|500px|OVA version]]
[[Image:HSJoshua2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alucard aiming his weapon. Here in this shot, you can see the trademarks on the slide of the weapon.]]
[[Image:HSJoshua4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The "Joshua" while cycling.]]
[[Image:HSJoshua5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Here we see a full length shot of Alucard's signature weapon. The detail of the trademarks on the slide of the weapon is very well done.]]

=== Jackal ===
Alucard's second handgun is the '''Jackal''', which was also made especially for him. The Jackal was made by Walter after Alucard's first encounter with Anderson - in fact, it likely was specifically designed with him in mind, considering the phrase "'Jesus Christ is in Heaven Now'", a variation on a similar statement on Anderson's equipment, is engraved on the side. The Jackal has an overall length of 39cm (the same length as the Casull), is made from pure silver, and weighs 16kg. The slide covers the entire top frame, and there are thus no creases or lines on the top part of the gun, making room for the engraving. Obviously, no human could possibly use this gun without being blown away by it. The breech also faces the left, instead of the right, so it's more of a sister gun to the .454, though it's magazines can hold about the same amount of bullets that the Casull is capable of. The bullets are different as well, being a bigger 13mm, with a gold casing, a reinforced core for armor penetration, a mercury explosive and each bullet being baptized. Compared to the Casull, the Jackal is distinctly lacking in terms of aesthetic features, and is devoid of any contours on the side or frame save for the grip. This suggests that Walter designed the weapon immediately after Alucard's encounter with Anderson and did not have time to improve its appearance.

This gun is of fantastic proportions. No 13mm round was ever produced. A .50 alone would equal 12.7mm, meaning each bullet must be manufactured by Hellsing alone. It's curious as to how this weapon can weigh 16kg when a full size 7.62X51mm machine gun only weighs 11kg, the weight is probably necessary to control the 13mm rounds, though with a gun this heavy you could probably fire a .50cal BMG round and still have the same desired effect.

[[Image:Jackalhandgun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hellsing Arms "Jackal" - 13mm]]
[[Image:Jackalhandgun2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Jackal in the original TV series]]
[[Image:HSJackal.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Jackal in the OVAs]]
[[Image:HSJoshua3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A brief description about the Jackal's rounds, indicating that they are molded from holy relics.]]
[[Image:HSJackal2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Here we see the trademarks on the Jackal, including the phrase "Jesus Christ is in Heaven now".]]
[[Image:HSJackal3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alucard loads the Jackal, and gives more dialogue about the blessing of the rounds which are forged from holy relics.]]
[[Image:HSJackal4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alucard takes aim with the Jackal.]]

===Heckler & Koch Mark 23===
Seras's sidearm is a [[Heckler & Koch Mark 23]] in the original television series. It was replaced by a more sensible P226 in the OVA.
[[Image:Mk23.jpg|thumb|none|400px|H&K Mk 23 Mod 0 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:HSmk.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras with her Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0.]]
[[Image:HSmk2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another shot of Seras with her H&K Mk 23 Mod 0.]]
[[Image:HSmk3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras aims her H&K Mk 23 Mod 0 at a vampire giving her a creepy smile.]]
[[Image:HSmk4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Clearly this vamp is not intimidated by her .45 ACP weapon.]]

===SIG P226===
A [[Sig Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]] is seen in the hands of Seras during her time as a police officer. Integra also uses a P226 as her sidearm as choice, stating that it is loaded with silver Heavy Explosive rounds.
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9mm]]
[[Image:HSSIG2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras with her SIG-Sauer P226]]
[[Image:HSSIG3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another shot of the P226. There is a considerable amount of detail on the weapon's manufacturing trademarks.]]
[[Image:HSSIG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A P226 lays on a table next to a spare magazine. Here, the gun appears to have a nickel finish.]]

===M1911===
Integra's uncle uses an [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]] in a flashback.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Military Issue M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:HS1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Integra's uncle seen with his M1911 in the flashback.]]

=== Browning Hi-Power ===
A [[Browning Hi-Power]] was seen as the sidearm of a British traitor in the OVA.
[[Image:Browning HP West German Police.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Browning Hi-Power - 9mm]]
[[Image:HSbrowning.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The traitor armed with his Browning Hi-Power]]
[[Image:HSbrowning2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the Browning Hi-Power.]]

===Walther PPK===
Integra uses a [[Walther PPK]] on the shooting range and against Yan in the meeting room in the TV series. It is loaded with a fictive incendiary round.
[[Image:Walther-PPK.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Walther PPK in 7.65x17mm Auto (.32 ACP)]]
[[Image:HSPPK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Integra fires the Walther PPK. Here in this shot, the shell looks far too small to be a .32 ACP shell.]]
[[Image:HSPPK2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Integra flips the safety of the Walther PPK.]]
[[Image:HSPPK3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Walther PPK lays on the bench next to a box of .32 ACP rounds.]]

===Mauser C96===
Two [[Mauser C96]] pistols are used by "The Captain". The normal pistol barrels have been replaced with meter-long carbine barrels.
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mauser C96 - 7.63 Mauser]]
[[Image:HSC96.jpg|thumb|500px|none|The Captain's Mauser pistols as seen holstered in his dual holsters on his belt.]]
[[Image:HelsingMangaMausers.jpg|none|400px|thumb|As the OVA series has yet to offer a full view of the Captain's Mausers, a scan from the Manga is provided. Will be replaced when they debut in the OVA.]]
[[Image:C96 h 112.jpg|none|400px|thumb|"The Captain" points his Mauser C96 at Hienkel's face]]
[[Image:C96 11 H.jpg|none|400px|thumb|Another shot of "The Captains" Mauser C96]]
[[Image:C96 H 222.jpg|none|400px|thumb|"The Captain" aims his Mauser at Hienkel warning him not to interfere, then tossing him bandages out of pity]]

===Beretta 92FS===
A [[Beretta 92FS]] is seen in the hands of a round table council member in the OVA and in the hands of a Hellsing turncoat in the TV series.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9mm]]
[[Image:HS92F.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Beretta 92FS as seen next to the Webley]]
[[Image:HS92Fa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hellsing turncoat as seen with his Beretta 92FS]]

===Webley Mk VI===
A [[Webley Mk VI]] revolver is used by round table council president Sir Hugh Irons in the OVA.
[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Webley Mk VI - .455 Webley]]
[[Image:HSwebley.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This shot makes the Webley look longer than it is.]]
[[Image:HSwebley2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sir Hugh Irons flips his Webley around and holds it by the barrel.]]
[[Image:HSwebley23.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another shot of Irons pulling the trigger of his Webley.]]

===Beretta 93R===
Integra is seen firing a [[Beretta 93R]] at a shooting range in the TV series.
[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 93R - 9mm]]
[[Image:HSM93R.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Integra fires the Beretta 93R. In this sequence, the three shells ejecting is correct since the 93R is also a 3-round burst weapon.]]
[[Image:HSM93Ra.jpg|thumb|500px|none|The Beretta 93R after Integra fires it.]]

===Single Action Army===
Pip's sidearm of choice is a [[Single Action Army]].
[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 5.5" barrel - .45 Long Colt]]
[[Image:HSrev.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Pip charges into the action with his Single Action Army revolver.]]

===Glock Pistols===
Pip uses a [[Glock]] with a suppressor in the OVA. Seras also had a Glock as her sidearm when she joined Hellsing in the Anime. None of them can be seen clearly enough to distinguish the exact model/caliber.
[[Image:HSGlock.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Pip with his suppressed Glock]]
[[Image:HSGlock2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Seras pulls the trigger on her unknown Glock.]]
[[Image:HSGlock3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Another shot of Seras as she readies her Glock.]]
[[Image:HSGlock4.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Seras with her unknown Glock]]
[[Image:HSGlock5.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Seras fires her unknown Glock pistol.]]

==Submachine Guns==

===Customized FN P90s===
Yan Valentine wields a pair of heavily modified [[FN P90|FN P90s]]. Both have part of the stock and handle removed, with a more conventional pistol grip placed instead. A silencer has been added, along with an underbarrel laser dot sight. Of course, his eye sigil also adorns the side of the weapon. In the TV series, one had a long scope attached to it and the other a red dot sight.
[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Fabrique Nationale P90 - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:cusP90.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Here in this artwork, we see Yan Valentine's customized FN P90s without the red dot sight and long scope.]]
[[Image:cusP902.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Yan's P90s in the TV series.]]
[[Image:YancusP90.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Yan's P90s in the OVA.]]
[[Image:YancusP90a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Here we see a good shot of one of Yan's modified P90s, with the long scope mounted on top.]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5A3===
Both Hellsing members and London police officers are seen with [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|H&K MP5A3s]].
[[Image:HKmp5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight and Navy trigger group]]
[[Image:HSMP5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A London police officer firing his MP5 at a Nazi vampire.]]
[[Image:HSMP5A.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Police officers turned ghouls with their MP5s.]]
[[Image:HSMP5b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another police officer turned ghoul is seen with his MP5.]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5K PDW===
Yan Valentine's ghouls are all armed with [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW|H&K MP5K PDWs]] equipped with PVS-14 night vision scopes and suppressors. This same design was also seen in the hands of a few police officers.
[[Image:MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|300px|MP5K-PDW - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:HSMP5K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Yan Valentine's ghouls as seen with their MP5K-PDWs with suppressors attached.]]
[[Image:HSMP5K2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another shot of Yan Valentine's ghouls using MP5K-PDWs with suppressors and riot shields.]]
[[Image:HSMP5K3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An MP5K-PDW is seen being used by the Brazilian police.]]

=== Beretta PM12S ===
The [[Beretta PM12S]] was seen in OVA. It is possible that these are Taurus PM-12s (a licensed copy of the Beretta PM12S made in Brazil) since these are used by a Brazilian police SWAT team.
[[Image:BerettaPM12S.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta PM12S - 9mm.]]
[[Image:HSPMS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Brazilian SWAT team as seen with their possible Beretta PM12Ss' or Taurus PM-12s'.]]
[[Image:HSPMS2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The SWAT team readies their weapons.]]
[[Image:HSPMS3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The SWAT team fires their possible Beretta PM12Ss' or Taurus PM-12s'.]]

===Skorpion SA Vz 61===
One of the vampire teens in the TV series uses a [[Skorpion SA|Skorpion SA Vz 61]]. In the OVA, it was replaced with a Micro Uzi.
[[Image:CZ Vz.61.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Skorpion SA Vz 61 - .32 ACP.]]
[[Image:HSSK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The teenage vampire with his Skorpion SA Vz 61 at the ready, as Alucard approaches.]]
[[Image:HSSK2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another teenage vampire pulls out the Skorpion SA Vz 61 that was tucked in their pants.]]

===Micro Uzi===
A [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzi]] was see seen in the hands of a vampire teen in the OVA.
[[Image:MicroUziPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Micro Uzi with 15 rd magazine - 9mm.]]
[[Image:HSUZI.jpg|thumb|500px|none|The teenage vampire with his Micro Uzi. In this shot, the front sights and the bolt are missing from the gun.]]

===Uzi===
A police officer can be seen wielding an [[Uzi]] during the first episode of the OVA.
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi- 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Policeuzihellsing.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The police officer as seen with his full-sized Uzi. Here in this shot, the bolt appears to be mounted way too far to the front sights of the weapon.]]

===MP40===
The Millennium Organization's army of Nazi vampires are largely equipped with [[MP40|MP40s]].
[[Image:MP40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 - 9mm]]
[[Image:HSMP40.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the Nazi vampires readies his MP40 with one hand.]]
[[Image:HSMP40a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another Nazi vampire is seen armed with an MP40.]]

===Steyr MPi81===
A vampire steals a [[Steyr MPi 69/81|Steyr MPi81]] from a police station in the TV series when he attempts to escape.
[[Image:SteyrMPi81.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Steyr MPi81 Submachine Gun - 9x19mm. This varies from the MPi69 in that the cocking handle is more conventional, and not a combination 'cocking handle/sling mount']]
[[Image:HellsMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The vampire with his newly acquired Steyr MPi81.]]
[[Image:HellsMG2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The vampire gives a half-demented smile as he aims his Steyr MPi81, while the weapon slung on his back is an Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" shotgun.]]
[[Image:HellsMG3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Steyr MPi81 lays discarded on the ground.]]

===Thompson M1928===
A [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928 Thompson]] can be seen in Alucard's dream sequence at the beginning of the 5th OVA. The entire dream revolves around films based on Frederick Forsythe novels. The Thompson is seen during a reference to [[Fourth Protocol, The|The Fourth Protocol]].
[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928 Thompson - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:HellsingDream1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Thompson M1928 as seen in Alucard's dream.]]

== Rifles==

===Seras's Rifle (Hellsing Anti-Midians 13.7mm)===
This unnamed rifle was used by Seras before she was given the Hallconnen. She also used it with a drum magazine later on in the TV series and OVA. In the original TV series, the rifle had a more black polymer finish and stock, but in the OVA, it was switched to wood. Also in the original TV series, this rifle was fully automatic, but in the OVA, Seras only fires it in semi. This weapon is clearly manufactured by the Hellsing organization for anti-vampire combat, though it is uncertain who was intended to wield it before Seras joined. The stock engraving reads "Anti-Midians" and gives the caliber of the round as a massive 13.7mm.
[[Image:Seras'srifle6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sera's rifle in the Original TV series]]
[[Image:Seras'srifle7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras when she first receives her rifle.]]
[[Image:Seras'srifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sera's rifle in the OVA.]]
[[Image:Seras'srifle2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras cocks her rifle.]]
[[Image:Seras'srifle3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras with her rifle by her side.]]
[[Image:Seras'srifle4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras as seen firing her rifle, while a shell is seen flying towards the audience in the foreground. Also, her rifle is seen loaded with a drum magazine.]]
[[Image:Seras'srifle5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of Seras' rifle. Here we see in good detail, that the rifle was made by Hellsing Arms, the "Anti-Midians" engraving and the drum magazine that's loaded into the weapon.]]

===Sawed-Off M1 Garands===
Luke Valentine's weapon of choice is a pair of sawn-off [[M1 Garand|M1 Garand rifles]]. In the television series, both the stock and barrel/fore-end have been cut down, effectively turning these rifles into high-caliber pistols. In the OVA, only the barrel and fore-end have been cut, and the stock has been left intact.
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand - .30-06]]
[[Image:cusM1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An artwork frame of Luke Valentine's sawn-off M1 Garand rifles.]]
[[Image:cusM12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Luke Valentine aims one of his M1 Garands at Alucard, as Alucard expresses some annoyance.]]
[[Image:lukecusM13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Luke's M1 in the TV series.]]
[[Image:lukecusM12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Luke's M1 in the OVA.]]

===Colt Model 733===
[[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 727/Model 733|Colt Model 733s]] are carried by Hellsing members in the OVA.
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Model 733 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:HSM4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hellsing members fire their Colt Model 733's at approaching Ghouls.]]
[[Image:HSM4a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hellsing members look on with their Colt Model 733's at the ready.]]

===M16A1s Rifle===
The [[M16 rifle series#M16A1_Rifle|M16A1]] rifle is used by Hellsing forces in the original TV series.
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:HSM16.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hellsing Forces seen armed with their M16A1's in the original TV series.]]

===M16A2 Rifle===
Several [[M16 rifle series#M16A2_Rifle|M16A2]] rifles are used by Brazilian solders/officers in an (unsuccessful) attempt to kill Anderson.
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Hsatow2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Brazilian soldiers armed with their M16A2 rifles as they take aim...]]
[[Image:Hsatwo3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|...and open fire on Anderson with their M16A2 rifles.]]
[[Image:Hsatwo4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the Brazilian soldier's M16A2 rifles.]]

===L85A1===
Traitorous British soldiers in the OVA are seen wielding [[Enfield L85 rifle series#L85A1|L85A1]] service rifles. Another is seen in the hands of a member of the Wild Geese during Zorin's assault.
[[Image:L85A1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|L85A1 - 5.56x45mm with SUSAT scope]]
[[Image:HSL85.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The British soldiers as seen with their L85A1 rifles.]]
[[Image:HSL85a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Here the soldiers take aim with their L85A1 rifles.]]
[[Image:HSL85b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Wild Geese member takes cover with his L85A1.]]

===Norinco Type 84S===
Two members of the Wild Geese in the OVA are armed with [[AK-47#Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84S]] rifles.
[[Image:NorincoType84SRifle.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 84S - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:HSAK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The two Wild Geese members with their Norinco Type 84S rifles as they argue about whether or not that bomb was intended to kill everyone and not just one group.]]
[[Image:HSAK2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another shot of the two Wild Geese members with their Type 84S rifles.]]

===AK-74===
Most of the Wild Geese in the OVA are armed with [[AK-74#AK-74|AK-74]] rifles.
[[Image:AK-74 NTW 12 92.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AK-74 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:HSAK3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A one-eyed Wild Geese member readies his AK-74.]]
[[Image:HSAK4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another Wild Geese member (while under the Hellsing Organization) is also seen armed with an AK-74.]]

===AKS-74U===
Several members of the Wild Geese use [[ AK-74#AKS-74U|AKS-74U]] rifles while working for the Hellsing Organization.
[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U (also referred to as the "AKSU" or 'Krinkov') - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:Hsaksu.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Wild Geese member seen armed with his AKS-74U rifle]]
[[Image:Hsaksu2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Here we see a better shot of the AKS-74U rifle.]]

===Sturmgewehr 44===
Several of the Nazi vampires in the OVA are armed with [[Sturmgewehr 44]]s.
[[Image:Sturmgewehr 44.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sturmgewehr 44(MP44) 7.92kurz]]
[[Image:HSweapon.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A Nazi vampire aims his Sturmgewehr 44.]]

===Kar98K===
The Nazi vampires are seen with [[Karabiner 98k|Kar98k]].
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Karabiner 98k - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Hskar.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nazi vampire is seen with his Karabiner 98k rifle]]
[[Image:Hspzf.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A platoon of Nazi vampires are seen readying their Karabiner 98k rifles. In the background, they are seen loading their rifles with Panzerfaust rounds.]]
[[Image:HSweapon.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Various other Nazi vampires take aim with their Karabiner 98k rifles.]]

==Sniper Rifles==

===Accuracy International Arctic Warfare===
Both Seras and assorted Hellsing members use [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare]] sniper rifles. Seras was told to not equip hers with a scope because, as a vampire, she can see farther than any human could.
[[Image:Accuracy_International_Arctic_Warfare_-_Psg_90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Accuracy International Arctic Warfare - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:HSL96.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras as seen with an AW sniper rifle. Here, we see that no scope is mounted on the rifle since she is a vampire and doesn't need the scope since she can see farther than a human can.]]
[[Image:HSL96a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another shot of Seras from the TV show taking aim with an AW sniper rifle. Here again, there is no scope mounted on the rifle.]]
[[Image:HSL96b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Here a member of the Hellsing Organization takes aim with an AW rifle of his own.]]

===Heckler & Koch PSG-1===
A [[Heckler & Koch G3#Heckler & Koch PSG-1|H&K PSG-1]] is used by a Brazilian police sniper team.
[[Image:H&KPSG01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Hellpsg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Brazilian police sniper armed with a Heckler & Koch PSG-1.]]
[[Image:Hellpsg2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The sniper team takes aim with their Heckler & Koch PSG-1's.]]

=== ''Day of the Jackal'' Sniper Rifle===
During Alucard's dream, he encounters The Jackal, [[Edward Fox|Edward Fox's]] character from [[The Day of the Jackal]]. The Jackal can be seen carrying [[(Day of the Jackal) - Custom Sniper Rifle|the same custom rifle]] that he uses in the original 1973 film.
[[Image:TDOTJ-rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A shot of the custom sniper rifle from ''The Day of the Jackal'']]
[[Image:HellsingDream2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Jackal as seen in Alucard's dream with his customized sniper rifle from the 1973 film.]]
[[Image:HellsingDream3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Jackal with his custom sniper rifle as Alucard points out where General de Gaulle is.]]
[[Image:HellsingDream4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Jackal tells Alucard to get a move on, as he readies his custom sniper rifle.]]

===SVD Dragunov===

In OVA 9 Hienkel takes an SVD Dragunov from one of his comrades to take revenge for the death of Yumie. It is seen with medical bandage round the wooden handguard
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SVD Dragunov sniper rifle - 7.62x54mm R]]

[[Image:Dragunov Hienkel H.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hienkel taking his comrades SVD Dragunov]]
[[Image:Hienkel Dragunov H 55.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hienkel with the SVD Dragunov in hand]]

== Shotguns ==

=== Ithaca 37 Stakeout===
An [[Ithaca 37#Ithaca 37 "Stakeout"|Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" ]] is stolen by a vampire as he tried to escape from a police station in the TV series.
[[Image:Stakeout-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca 37 "Stakeout"]]
[[Image:HellsRemington870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The vampire with his newly acquired Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" as he attempts to escape the police station.]]

== Heavy weapons ==

===Harkonnen cannon===
Seras Victoria gets this fictional cannon later in the series. This is the weapon that Walter gives Seras in episode 5, "Brotherhood" and the OVA shows the same scene as well, in the 2nd episode. This weapon's name is rendered as "Hallconnen" but actually pronounced "Harkonnen" and is a reference to the primary antagonists of the novel ''Dune'', House Harkonnen (the spelling discrepancy is the result of the Japanese pronunciation of "Harkonnen"). The cannon is almost hilariously oversized, but Seras soon handles it like a normal rifle because of her strength as a vampire. Walter says that it uses depleted uranium shells, and high explosive rounds. The Harkonnen fires 30mm cannon shells.

This is effectively an artillery piece scaled down to so a person can hold it like a rifle, which Seras does from time to time. It operates using a traditional breech-action system.
[[Image:Hallconnon.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hallconnen (a.k.a., Harkonnen) - 30mm]]
[[Image:Hallconnon2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras loads in a 30mm shell into the Harkonnen.]]
[[Image:Hallconnon3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras's cannon in the original anime.]]
[[Image:HSSeras'scannon.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras's cannon in OVA.]]
[[Image:HSSeras'scannon2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras twirls the Harkonnen...]]
[[Image:HSSeras'scannon3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|...loads in a 30mm round...]]
[[Image:HSSeras'scannon4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|...and takes aim down the ironsights of the weapon.]]

=== Incognito's Armscor 40mm MGL===
This is a fictional multi-shot grenade launcher based off the South African [[Milkor MGL]]. The weapon does not fire normal explosive grenades (though a wide range of ammo can be used, Incognito loads them with special shells containing multiple dart-like objects that have some magical property, which Alucard describes it as "magic from the dark continent"). As with Incognito himself, this weapon only appears in the television series.
[[Image:ArmMGL.jpg|thumb|none|400px|An artwork page of Incognito's Armscor-based grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:ArmMGL1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Incognito takes aim with his Armscor-based grenade launcher.]]

===M202 FLASH===
Luke Valentine uses a [[M202 FLASH]] to break into the Hellsing compound in the TV series.
[[Image:M202A2 FLASH.JPG|thumb|none|300px|M202 FLASH - 66mm]]
[[Image:HSflash.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Luke Valentine takes aim with the M202 FLASH launcher.]]

===Arwen 37===
Seras uses an [[Arwen 37]] grenade launcher several times in the TV series.
[[Image:Arwen 37.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Arwen 37 - 37mm]]
[[Image:HSArwen.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras takes aim with the Arwen 37. It appears that the folks at Gonzo forgot to draw the actual grenades in this thing.]]

===Manville Projectile Launcher===
In Alucard's dream, "[[Christopher Walken]]" can be seen using the [[Hawk MM1 grenade launcher|Manville 25mm Launcher]] from ''[[The Dogs of War]]''.
[[Image:MM1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MM1 grenade launcher - 40mm]]
[[Image:HellsingDream5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Christopher Walker" as seen with the MM1 grenade launcher in Alucard's dream.]]

=== Mk 47 Mod 0 Grenade Launcher ===
The [[Mk 47 Mod 0 Grenade Launcher]] is used by the Wild Geese to defend Hellsing manor against Millennium's forces with devastating effect.
[[Image:Mk47-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 47 Mod 0 "Striker 40" automatic grenade launcher - 40mm]]
[[Image:HSmk19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two Wild Geese members are seen right next to the Mk 47 ALGL grenade machine gun.]]
[[Image:HSmk19a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another Wild Geese member blasts away at Millennium's forces with the Mk 47 ALGL grenade machine gun.]]

===Panzerfaust===
Millennium's army of Nazi vampires in the OVA makes liberal use of a multitude of [[Panzerfaust]] launchers.
[[Image:Panzerfaust.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerfaust - 44mm with 149mm warhead]]
[[Image:Hspzf.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Nazi vampires in the background are seen loading Panzerfaust rockets into their Karabiner 98k rifles.]]
[[Image:Hspzf2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another Nazi vampire is seen with a Panzerfaust slung onto his back.]]
[[Image:Hellsing Panzerfaust 44.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another Nazi vampire takes deadly aim with a Panzerfaust launcher.]]

===Panzerschreck===
Several Nazi vampires carry [[Panzerschreck|Panzerschrecks]] during the attack on London.
[[Image:Tank h5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerschreck rocket launcher 88mm]]
[[Image:Hspzs.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nazi vampire readies his Panzerschreck weapon.]]

=== CIWS ===
A [[M61 Vulcan#General Dynamics / Raytheon Phalanx Close-In Weapon System|CIWS Phalanx]] on the deck of the captured British aircraft carrier is used against Alucard's Blackbird in the OVA.
[[Image:Phalanx.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GE M61 Vulcan 20mm Cannon in a Phalanx mounting]]
[[Image:Hscisw.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Phalanx gun rotates...]]
[[Image:Hscisw2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|...and points upward towards Alucard's Blackbird.]]
[[Image:Hscisw3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Phalanx gun fires at Alucard's Blackbird...]]
[[Image:Hscisw4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|...that however, doesn't seem to phase Alucard as he dives his plane straight down into the path of oncoming 20mm rounds.]]

=== Harkonnen II ===
The Harkonnen II is a fictional weapons system consisting of a pair 30mm semi-automatic cannons coupled with an incredibly large ammunition supply. Seras uses these weapons to barrage Zorin's zeppelin with an overwhelming display of firepower. The ammunition containers are detachable, and Seras is seen using Harkonnen III without them, though she quickly runs out of ammo.
[[Image:Serascannon.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras readies her Harkonnen II weapon. Here we see how incredibly large the 30mm rounds are.]]
[[Image:Serascannon2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Here, the specs of the Harkonnen II are described at great length. Note the incorrectly translated name on the receiver; the text is supposed to read "Vladimir Harkonnen," named after the villain of Frank Herbert's ''Dune''.]]
[[Image:Serascannon3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|While here, the ammunition boxes are shown.]]
[[Image:Serascannon4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Here we see in better detail, Seras with the Harkonnen II.]]
[[Image:Serascannon5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Top view of the Harkonnen II's ammunition boxes.]]
[[Image:Serascannon6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras prepares to face down Zorin's zeppelin...]]
[[Image:Serascannon7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|...Seras takes aim with the Harkonnen II...]]
[[Image:Serascannon8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|...and unleashes double the fury of 30mm rounds from the Harkonnen II.]]
[[Image:Serascannon9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An over-the-shoulder shot of Seras firing the Harkonnen III at Zorin's zeppelin.]]
[[Image:Serascannon10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A shot of the 30mm shells ejecting from the guns.]]

===Vladimir===
Described as a "Wide area saturation, high explosive incendiary grenade launcher", the Vladimir is a set of fictional muzzle-fired grenades that are part of the Harkonnen II weapon system. Seras uses these to deliver the final blow to Zorin's zeppelin.
[[Image:Serasgl.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras unloads the Vladimir rounds...]]
[[Image:Serasgl4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|...*looks at watch* Geez, how long does it take to load this dang weapon?]]
[[Image:Serasgl5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ok, there we go! Seras loads up the Vladimir into the Hallconnen II...]]
[[Image:Serasgl6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Vladimirs are firmly attached...]]
[[Image:Serasgl7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras swings the Harkonnen II to take aim at Zorin's zeppelin...]]
[[Image:Serasgl8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|...the Vladimir's stabilizer fins pop out...]]
[[Image:Serasgl9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|... of course in any anime, the main hero does not fire the finishing blast without some over-extended dialogue to the enemy.]]
[[Image:Serasgl10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Seras takes aim...]]
[[Image:Serasgl11.jpg|thumb|none|500px|And fires the Vladimirs at Zorin's zeppelin, effectively dealing the finishing blow.]]

== Wall of Guns ==

Seen in the first episode of the OVA. It consists of
*a Sig P220 series
*an AK-74
*an M16 with the three-pronged compensator [drawn upside down]
*an M1911
*an M16 with the birdcage compensator
*a Colt Python
*Franchi LM57
*Sten MkII
*Lee-Enfield No4 (With bayonet attached)

Near the end of the wall of guns several muzzle-loading muskets, one with a bayonet attached, can be seen.

And all these were pointed at Alucard, but were still not enough firepower to take down one of the most powerful vampires in existence.

[[Image:HSGUNS.jpg|thumb|700px|none|A barrage of guns]]

There's also no one holding any of the guns.

== Unknowns ==

[[Image:HSgun.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[Image:HSguns.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
[[Image:hellsingova00.png|thumb|500px|none|]]
:A custom job possibly based on the South African Mamba 9mm??

[[Image:Hellsing Major ww2 1.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]
could possibly be a Tokerev
[[Image:HSunknowngun13.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

=== Unknown Rifle ===

Unknown rifle used by zombie in left of picture.

[[Image:Hsunknowrifle.jpg|thumb|400px|none|The zombie with his unknown rifle.]]

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Talk:Killer7

2012-06-03T23:18:40Z

Crimsonsguns: /* Coyote Smith's Revolver */ new section

I thought Con's were a pair of Heckler & Koch .40 calibers.

What is used in the Russian Roulette scene?

== Coyote Smith's Revolver ==

The revolver this character uses more closely resembles a Webley or Enfield revolver than a schofield
--[[User:Crimsonsguns|Crimsonsguns]] 18:18, 3 June 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Ghost Recon: Future Soldier

2012-05-19T12:49:07Z

Crimsonsguns: /* MR-B Assault Rifle */

==Sorry guys==
My computer is running slowly so there is a marked delay in what I type and what page shows up. I did a boo boo because I was on the main VG page and then clicked on the discussion page and my PC took so long to click over I thought the Discussion page WAS the main page. That's what I get for trying to edit quickly when I'm multi-tasking. Apologies. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:55, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

==Fictional Weaponry==

===MR-B Assault Rifle===
The bullpup assault rifle has a built-in shotgun under the barrel, and the overall design has a faint resemblance with [[IMI Tavor TAR-21]]. It is used by Ghost Recon operatives.
[[Image:GRFS-AR-3.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Fiction Bullpup Assault Rifle, 5.56 Uranium]]
For a magnified version of the upper image:
[http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/108/1083040/ghost-recon-future-soldier-first-look-20100412054623239.jpg]
[[Image:GRFW-AR.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:GRFW-AR-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

These look a little like Magpul PDR's to me.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 16:01, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

[[User:Scarlighter|Scarlighter]]
Scarlight/Scarlighter/Scar-Lighter/Scar-L/... says on 21 February 2012, 15:10, Italy (UTC+01:00):

"A Fictional/Futuristic Bullpup Multi-Purpose Assault Rifle which, on my opinion, shares only few parts from other Weapons:
the most evident is the Pistol Grip, identical to that of the P90 SMG; the rear part of the Upper Receiver, which would be used as a Cheek Rest, features on the left side of the Weapon (see the first image and magnification) three "Air Intakes" which resemble those appearing on some Handguards (H&K G36, Enfield L85,...).
I believe it is well assembled, but too bulky and heavy, so less maneuverable, and this is a paradox for a Bullpup Weapon! It shouldn't include the "Disputor Shotgun", but as an Underbarrel Attachment! And what is that "Titanium Hook" for? Grappling? If so, it would be very useful, and even more if it were an Accessory, not an integrated part of the Weapon, which is actually a Weapon System.
I hope they will make some changes to the final release of both the Game (that has been postponed to 22 May for the North America and 24 May for the EU) and the Weapon..."

[[User:Scarlighter|Scarlighter]]
Scarlight/Scarlighter/Scar-Lighter/Scar-L/... says on 25 February 2012, 13:10, Italy (UTC+01:00):

"Oops, I almost forgot another interesting detail: the "Hologram Sight", which perhaps in 2030 will replace the Red Dot Sight as a Standard Equipment... or just walk next to it."

--[[User:Crimsonsguns|Crimsonsguns]] 07:49, 19 May 2012 (CDT)
Looks like a Seburo MN-23 kit with even more greeblies on it

===Fictional Assault Rifle #2===
Seems to be based on the [[OTs-14 Groza]] with a AR-15 carry handle. Used by the Ultranationalists and their leader Ivan Illitch Kerenski.

==But Groza has AR-15 style carry handle? So why it's fictional? ripp

==Agreed, aside from a few attachments those are perfectly normal Grozas; which makes sense being in the hands of riot police, as it was designed as a close combat weapon, and the ultranationalists that now own the police. I support this being moved to the main page unless its confirmed it will not appear in the game but only the trailer. - Anon
[[Image:GRFW-AR2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:GRFW-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:GRFW-AR2-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

These just ook like AN-91's to me. Not sure they're fictional. --[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 16:03, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

===Fictional Grenade Launcher===
It used by Russian Ultranationalist Forces to fire tear gas shells at the mob. Seems to have been inspired by the [[Brügger & Thomet GL-06]].
[[Image:GRFW-GL.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

===Backpack Rocket Launcher===
[[Image:GRFW-RL.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

[[User:Scarlighter|Scarlighter]]
Scarlight/Scarlighter/Scar-Lighter/Scar-L/... says on 21 February 2012, 15:30, Italy (UTC+01:00):

"Nice... I want some of them; it looks like it was for an Iron Man Armor!!!!
What about "Dual-Wielding" it, on both sides of the Backpack?"

==Plot and set-up of this game?==

Is Scott Mitchell, the player character from Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, making a comeback in this game? Will there be a different version for the PC players this time too, as was the case for GRAW2? I like those kinds of "enhanced PC ports" that take full advantage of mouse and keyboard and possibly better hardware as well.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

==Not looking good so far...==
It's not the Sci-Fi..ness that gets to me, I mean it bothers me but I could get past it. They could be Jedis and I might still like this(might, but probably not), but what I can't get past is that these designs are just UGLY! DX [[User:Leadback|Leadback]]

I've been a big fan of Ghost Recon ever since I played the original back in the day (and even liked both Advanced Warfighters, despite the largely mixed reviews they got), but this one is beginning to look ''too much'' like ''Halo'' for my comfort. Fictional weapons, optic camouflage, ''backpack-mounted rocket pods''? What's next, Master Chief armored suits? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:23, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Well it's in the discussion section, so it's not too much of a problem [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Good point. Why does the "future" always involve wildly complex electronics, invisibility, and stupid-looking weapons? Maybe the developers started thinking the whole "Future warrior" project and thought it might actually work. In GRAW2, I usually go for the SCAR-L or HK416, with MP5SD secondary and the Mk46 for my support. I don't want or need super-weapons like the melting Xm8 and the doesn't-actualy-exist MR-C. I just hope there's a mission with the enemy sets of an EMP, leaving you with whatever doesn't use electricity. Seriously, optic camo is just dumb. --[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 13:50, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

:I think optic camo is the way of the future when it comes to camo. You are invisible to the enemy. Literally invisible. Don't you think that is much more advantageous than just blending in with camo colors? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

Another thing - the game is set in "near future" in late 2020's or early 2030's but in my opinion presented technologies are just too modern. Optical camouflage? Miniature "box-of--chocolate-chip-cookies-sized" rocket launchers capable of taking down a MBT in one shot? Oh, come on. Those things are not even in prototype stage yet. And I strongly doubt they would be in 10-15 years. As someone said, this looks much more like HALO than hard-core military FPS. Probably the best was the first "trilogy" - original Ghost Recon + Desert Siege and Island Thunder expansion packs. Plot line was not so shitty (well yeah, we still got the ultranationalists in Russia but ethnic cleansing in Sudan or collapse of Cuban regime were in my opinion quite realistic), you did not have any super cool hi-tech stuff (like AI driven battle robots, predator-like camouflage or laser guided beer can openers) and one 7,62x39mm round from an AK was capable of killing or incapacitating you. It was Advanced Warfighter, which started this "modern technologies" trend. The game was also set in "near future" (in 2014 to be precise) but it was much more "believable". You know, RC controlled drones/recon UAVs - why not? Military uses UAVs extensively even on todays battlefields and there are plans for further development. And speaking about weapons, "Ghost" were still using HK-416s, SCARs, MP-5s, MK-46s and other good "old fashioned" weapons (ok, there were few oversights like MR-C) rather than bullpup carbines firing "uranium" 5,56 rounds. W-T-F is that? What's next - Ghost Recon going Star Wars style aka Attack of mutant Jedi Clones firing lightsabers from their rocket launchers? My point is - Modern technologies? Fine, but at least make it believable. Is there anyone else who would like to see e.g. 6,5x39 or 6,8x43 based weapons and other non-sci-fi stuff rather than railguns, lasers and plasma carbines? [Ragnar]

:Unfortunately, highly realistic FPS games like [[SWAT 4]] are at best a niche market now, and less realistic "futuristic" stuff is wildly popular thanks to the success of shooter series like Halo and Gears of War. Nobody likes getting killed in one shot in a game.

:That said, I did like GRAW2 (though not as much as SWAT 4), and I did like using the XM8 and HK416, as well as the MR-C (HK was working on getting the G11 to work until the Berlin Wall fell, and the other two would be in more general use if it weren't for bureaucratic inertia). Besides, I was thinking that modern military body armour was supposed to stop several 7.62x39mm rounds now.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 16:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:Modern combat vests with ceramic SAPI (Small Arms Protective Insert) plates and soft kevlar inserts are supposed to stop 7,62x39 or even 7,62x54R but they are more like to lower the possibility of life threatening wound/protecting you from getting killed than making you invincible Terminator-like war machine from which bullets just bounce off. Usually, when you are hit you don't rush back into combat (even if the SAPI have stopped the bullet) ... of course when the situation requires you are still able to participate in combat or fight back but it is not like in CoD games (or any other similar FPS with "self healing system") - whoa I was hit into my vest ... lets wait five seconds in cover and we're good to go. [Ragnar - 20:06, 12 May 2010]

:No, I'm not saying I prefer a quick-healing system. I'm just tired of the tendency in certain more realistic games to kill you instantly without telling you where you got shot (which would be believable in places such as through the tactical goggles, or through the face, neck, groin, etc.) when your character are wearing body armour. Many's the time I've been shot dead with one bullet in SWAT 4 by a thug with a 9x19mm pistol, without having been previously injured. Maybe a better system might be to have armour just reduce damage or inflict "consciousness damage" (take too much of that and you are knocked out rather than killed) rather than be treated as health against rounds that are stopped and don't pierce it outright, while each piece of armour is tracked for its "integrity" (or likelihood of stopping/reducing health damage from rounds). That could be more be more realistic and more fun to play with. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 00:20, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

:Depleted uranium bullets are a real thing, actually they are THROUGH the prototype phase. Its use lies not in the radioactivity, but in its density. DU is used to make both vehicle armour and armour-piercing bullets by the US military already. Optical camo, while not 100% working right now, has been making HUGE steps forward in Japan. You wear it like a raincoat and you look like a strange shadow. Still noticeable, but nearly there. If it was through prototyping RIGHT NOW, they'd probably already be using it. It's not Halo, it's just the future. It's gonna happen, look out. Anyways, the gun makes sense to me, what doesn't is the idea that the US would have changed its main assault rifle again. The M8 outperformed the SCAR and the M4 by a stunning amount in terms of reliability and ease of use, and it still wasn't adopted. If anything, they should have just standardized the MCR from the last game, made it the mainstay weapon and done some variants of it. Or, realistically, they would probably just keep flogging the mp5-m16/m4 horse. Because everyone wants to just play every war game ever made and to ever BE made with the same weapons again and again. Even in the future, when an assault rifle with possibly equal range, more stopping power and a built in breaching shotgun is invented, all taking up half the space of the M4 it is attempting to replace. Progress on the battlefield? Heaven forbid. That said, aesthetically I'm not really a fan of the grips on the gun. Too ergonomic-looking to go with the rest of the rifle's look. [Erk - 05:46, 24 May 2010]

::DU would be pointless in a smallarm because the main advantage of DU is being pyrophoric; it's self-sharpening when it impacts at extremely high velocity, and will usually spontaneously ignite once inside a vehicle. It's just added here because like nuclear bullets are awesome, man (or because they're like really evil and stuff, depending on how the plot goes). In an infantry weapon you'd be better off using tungsten carbide, or just switching back to battle rifles as standard infantry arms for the additional penetration of a fullsize rifle round. The XM8 barely outperformed the SCAR (127 stoppages versus 226, and apparently most of that was due to the STANAG magazine of the SCAR being less reliable than the XM8's proprietary one, not the rifles themselves) and from what I've heard the ridiculous numbers of stoppages from the M4 were in no small part due to deliberate use of unapproved maintenance techniques during testing (in other words, it was about as fair a test as the M14 trials). Regardless, this thing is another OICW: a fat gun trying to cram everything the company thinks a soldier needs into it (in this case seemingly even a can opener), resulting in something nobody in their right mind would carry onto the field. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:14, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

I'm not liking the look of the new assault rifle. It looks like a frankin gun. Too much thrown into one thing to be practical. The bipod is so far from the center that to use it would simply be exposing one self and a built in hook? Seriously it just looks ridiculous. Even if it were built of all polymer which it isn't it would weigh like 20 something pounds. No one would be able to handle this weapon effectively. It looks like they're only a few steps off of throwing the chainsaw bayonet on there for good measure. It all just looks too dumb for me.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

: Yep, that's the problem of most of the fictional/futuristic "cool-looking" weapons. They are not designed for functionality but for looks (also majority of game designers does not have any experience with fire arms ... [sarcasm] if you are lucky they only know that weapons do "boom"[end of sarcasm]). And again, I'm not criticizing all game designers or all fictional firearms - there are few nice (it-looks-it-might-actually-work) examples. If I were designing a fictional firearm for such "near-future" FPS I would base it at least on some current weaponry (like in CRYSIS where they took XM-8 or MP-7 and refitted them a bit) - e.g. something like FN 2000 with prolonged barrel, RIS handguard, EGLM (in my opinion better construction than bulky AG36/M320), AN/PEQ 16 style IR designator, EOTech style holographic sight with magnifier and chambered to 6,5x39 or 6,8x43 ... It would look cool but also believable/functional - far more than that uranium rounds firing peice of crap with "hook" in front of the barrel. [Ragnar - 09:46, 14 May 2010]

: My only problem is that those helmets are fucking ugly and an invitation to catching frag to the brainpan. Why couldn't they use the designs from EndWar? [[Special:Contributions/75.51.147.40|75.51.147.40]] 05:10, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Seriously. Those helmets are just ridiculously designed. It's not a huge aesthetic thing to have ear covers on helmets. It's almost like they're going out of their way to make things look dumb and practically retarded at the same time. This is I guess the fate that awaits all future settings games. Shame really.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]

LoL those are not ear covers those are sky masks or however they're called worn under the helmet they're just white so it looks stupid but they are not ear covers.

The main weapon defiantly looks retarded IMO: Biggest fault for me is the P90-style pistol grip on a weapon that big. That grip works with a lightweight weapon like the P90, not with a fuck-off big gun like that. And a titanium hook? What the hell would you use that for? Also, am I the only one who noticed how far back the mag is? There is no room for a conventional bolt in there, as far as I can tell. It sure as hell doesn't look like it's caseless, considering the cocking handle halfway up the weapon. And oh god the holosight looks stupid, at least give it something it projects onto or into, not just magically hovering in the air. If they removed the stupid hook and grip at the front and went with a F2000-style stock, with a conventional magazine and a something that looked like a compact digital sight (think Eotech mixed with the F2000's grenade sight), I might buy its a futuristic OICW... it wouldn't look good but at least kind of plausible. As is it looks like something out of Gears of War. *edit* I just noticed the shotgun's magazine is directly under the side rails, making the rails more or less useless as you can't fit anything to them without getting in the way of the shotgun's mag.

The game has exoskeletons as a dues ex machina answer to the weight of the gear and comm'on DU bullets quick fact A gallon of milk weighs about 8 lbs. A chunk of uranium metal the size of a gallon milk jug weighs over 150 lbs! plz switch to 6.5 ammo a helpful guy

Well, I have to admit, the E3 demos of being able to fully customize the gun down to the gas tubes were rather impressive, lets hope that the weapons now act if they would correctly. However that's the only aspect of the game I'm impressed by so far tho, what the heck was up with that kinect? Sure as hell didn't look like shooting a rifle :P -Kangabox

== M249 Para ==
So am I the first one to catch it hiding in the background of the weapon selection screen or did nobody just bother to add it? ;) [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 02:44, 10 July 2011 (CDT)
:In the latest kinect trailer they are calling it "LMG MK48", so I think it's an MK48 with a Para stock if that is possible. Or since there will be an option to customize the butt-stocks, maybe fixed ones will be available also. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 03:27, 20 July 2011 (CDT)
::It's possible. Ghost Recon seems to have abandoned the 5.56mm SAWs in favor of the Mark 48 ever since the latter's introduction in GR2: Summit Strike. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:32, 12 August 2011 (CDT)

== Plot? ==
Has anyone heard anything about the plot? I'm wondering if perhaps these Russian ultra-nationalists have any connection to those behind the 2008 Balkan War portrayed in the original Ghost Recon. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:37, 10 July 2011 (CDT)

:I'll try to guess the plot.

::''"Oil. But then...'''Not oil!!!1''' And so there was a war and someone probably stole a nuke / quantum computer / EMP device also. Luckily a team of elite made-up special forces led by a tough former something-or-other (cop, Marine, SEAL, hairdresser, etc) with nothing to lose just manage to maneuver the situation to the point nothing is really resolved and a sequel can be blatantly set up for next year."''

:This is a calculated guess from playing other videogames. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:33, 20 July 2011 (CDT)
* :D - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 08:04, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

::Yup, sounds about right from my experience, too. XD [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:34, 12 August 2011 (CDT)

[[User:Scarlighter|Scarlighter]]
Scarlight/Scarlighter/Scar-Lighter/Scar-L/... says on 21 February 2012, 15:10, Italy (UTC+01:00):

"It is set in 2030, where Russia went to war; The Ghosts (a 4-man Ghost Team consisting of a Commando (Kozak), a Sniper Weapons expert (Pepper), a Reconnaissance expert (30k), and Ghost Lead) will be fighting an ultra-nationalist force that took control of Russia and are invading neighboring countries; they will visit places such as Norway, the Middle East and Asia."
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Ghost_Recon:_Future_Soldier#cite_note-joystiq.com-2]

== F this game ==
According to E3 2011 gameplay there will be '''NO''' +1 round in the chamber nor fire-mode selection, also remaining bullets will not be lost when reloading mid-mag. :( I hope they will change it before release otherwise it won't be a real ''tactical'' shooter. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 08:04, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

:Agreed, most shooters nowadays are plagued by COD Virus :( --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 12:16, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

::I'm sorry, but I'm happy as long as a SCAR-L doesn't shoot in tri-burst. :P - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 17:07, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

:::I don't mind not losing bullets from mid-mag reloads (after all, it's not like reloading with retention is impossible), as long as the magical elves living in my webbing aren't consolidating my used magazines into full ones. Maybe have a display of the mags you're carrying with red / amber / green to indicate roughly how full they are (since your character, unlike you, knows how much they weigh), and perhaps the ability to cycle preference (most full or most empty). Then again, we're talking about a game with an absurd DU-shooting trouser-cannon, so realism was never really going to be on the menu. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 17:37, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

::::Indicators for magazines is good. But it won't be because of knowing weight (this isn't realism-like Red Orchestra where you don't know the actual amount of bullets in magazine, there is standard ammo-in-mag counter ;) ) it will be for the sake of convenience :) --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 02:19, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

:::::Well, what I mean is rather than cluttering up the screen with ammo-in-weapon plus 7-15 other numbers, you'd have your number of bullets in the current magazine and then the colour / fill indicators for the others. To be honest, I don't think it's that realistic to have no idea at all how many bullets you have, since your ''character'' is a soldier who should know that kind of thing, and the HUD is just a way of transferring that information to the player. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:25, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

::::::And since our characters are Ghost Recon operatives with tactical gear (including helmets), for them it ''should'' be natural 8) --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 02:38, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

::::My Sci-fi story/game has aliens, wrap drive space ships, and mechs, but the weapons, equipment, and handling of said stuff is so realistic it would make most peoples heads hurt. And their not blaster type weapons. :D - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 19:27, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

:::::Yeah, being convincing is in the details of how a weapon is handled rather than necessarily in the setting. Then again, my own FPS / story project isn't as scifi as yours, so there. :P [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 20:49, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

==KAC Masterkey==
I think it's not a KAC Masterkey because it seems to be a semi auto shotgun.--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] 18:51, 19 August 2011 (CDT)

[[User:Scarlighter|Scarlighter]]
Scarlight/Scarlighter/Scar-Lighter/Scar-L/... says on 21 February 2012, 14:40, Italy (UTC+01:00):

"Agree with Flavio: the one in the picture looks a Semi-Auto Underbarrel Shotgun...
Anyways, since the M26 MASS has been recently issued by the US Army ([http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/02/16/army-issues-m26-mass-modular-accessory-shotgun-system/]) as the new Underbarrel Shotgun Attachment and as a new Stand-Alone Shotgun, why would the Ghosts still use the Masterkey, in 2030? They should use a new Underbarrel Shotgun, as for the MR-B Underbarrel Shotgun named "Disputor"..."

:I think the gun that this is actually based on is a fictional shortened version of the [[Benelli_M_Series_Super_90_Shotguns#Benelli_M4|Benelli M4]]. The cap on the end of the magazine tube is quite distinctive, shape of the receiver is the same, and the grip design is similar albeit slightly shortened. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:35, 21 February 2012 (CST)
::I agree with the previous comments. I'm not sure if it's an M4, but it does look like a semi-automatic and it certainly isn't a Masterkey. [[User:Krakydak|Krakydak]] 10:32, 25 February 2012 (CST)

== AK-12 ==

This is definitely not an AK-12, as that has a totally different shaped upper receiver and a different safety. It looks kind of like what was being reported as the early AK-200 prototype, but that was just a railed AK-74M. This looks more like an AKM with a AK-74 muzzle brake and Tapco folding stock and new furniture. Also, seeing as this final version of the AK-12 was only unveiled a couple of days ago, it seems very unlikely that is what this gun is based on. Also, that isn't one of the new 60 round magazines, it is a Tapco magazine that has been bulged out to look like a 60. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:51, 29 January 2012 (CST)
:I don't wish to disrespectfully argue with a more experienced member of the site, but I think the in-game render of the gun 99percently resembles the [http://www.gunblog.com/wp-content/gallery/ak-200-rifle/tmp_dropzone_6f_6748799800_.jpg AK-200]. I noted in the text that it is not the AK-12 but the 200, its prototype version. Maybe it would be wise to add an AK-200 section to the AK-12 page, and put this there. And then note how the final AK-12 looks like for future references. What do you say? - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 06:28, 29 January 2012 (CST)
::Granted it does look more like what was touted as the prototype AK-200 than the AK-12, but looking at the gas block and the front sight block, these are both [[AKM]] type rather than [[AK-74]] type, which is what the AK-200 uses. [http://cdn1.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/tmp_dropzone_6f_6748799800_tfb-tfb.jpg This] is a picture of what is supposedly the AK-200 prototype, which I believe is just either a AK-74M, AK-101 or AK-103 depending on caliber, fitted with a railed handguard and a railed top cover that is hinged and secured with a side mounted lever rather than the button on the rear. This gun might actually have this last point but can't be sure from this screenshot, but as it has the wrong stock,magazine, gas block and front sight, at best this is an AKM/AK-200 hybrid. I imagine the reason for this is that there are not many photos of the AK-200 and they wouldn't have been able to get their hands on one, so they had to base the majority of the modelling on something else. Either way, ID'ing it as an AK-12 and using an AK-12 photo is inaccurate as, if anything, it is an AK-200. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:54, 29 January 2012 (CST)
:::True. We could use a good pic of the 200 though. Anyways I will add an AK-200 section to the AK-12 page and move it there, ok? (And let's not forget that this is a video game, every small detail on a gun cannot be correct, right? Just scroll through the [[Soldier of Fortune: Payback]] page, and you will see what I am talking about. XD) - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 12:05, 29 January 2012 (CST)
::::Normally I'd think that if there are details wrong that mean it is actually based on another gun then it should be listed as the gun it actually is. However, I'd imagine that in this case they were genuinely trying to make an AK-200, and got tripped up on a couple of minor details due to the fact that there isn't much good reference material for it, so suppose it is fine leaving it as AK-200 for now. If it turns out with better screenshots that the the top cover of this gun is the same as on a traditional gun and it doesn't have the thumb safety on the left side, then it should be changed, as in that case there will be nothing that matches the AK-200. As for the picture, you could put in the AK-103, as that is close to being the same gun as the 7.62x39mm AK-200 (which I'm assuming this is from the magazine curve), just without the rails and new top cover. I wonder if the devs are pissed off that they put in a gun that was being touted by Russia as their future AK, and then when the gun is already made not only do they change the name of it, but it looks totally different to the earlier rifles. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:49, 29 January 2012 (CST)

[[User:Scarlighter|Scarlighter]]
Scarlight/Scarlighter/Scar-Lighter/Scar-L/... says on 21 February 2012, 15:30, Italy (UTC+01:00):

"As TheFirearmBlog.com reported only few days ago [http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/02/16/izhmash-5th-gen-ak-12-photos-and-video/], the AK-200 has been improved and renamed as the AK-12 [http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/01/26/kalashnikov-ak-12-unveiled/], being released during this year as the 5th Generation of the original Avtomat Kalashnikova, and in Multiple Calibers. But it doesn't mean that the Ubisoft Team is forced to change thier "AK-200" to the actual "AK-12", as it looks they customized it well, with those Tapco Folding Stock and Fictional "Tapco 60-Round Quad Magazine" (Tapco Industries could think about it...)."

==Optic Choices==
Screencaps show an Aimpoint Micro, an EOTech XPS with magnifier, and an ACOG variant with a red dot on top. The ACOG and EOTech combo have me most intrigued and wondering if we'll be able to switch between magnification for distance shooting and the red dot for CQB as needed. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 13:24, 25 February 2012 (CST)

:Maybe will be possible for Single Player and absent from Multiplayer for balancing reasons. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 08:30, 26 February 2012 (CST)

::"Balancing" as in, "Let's remove cool features in an effort to prevent people from bitching even though we all know such effort will be utterly pointless"? Yeah, that's the norm these days. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:19, 17 March 2012 (CDT)

[[User:Scarlighter|Scarlighter]]
Scarlight/Scarlighter/Scar-Lighter/Scar-L/... says on 25 February 2012, 21:00, Italy (UTC+01:00):

"Let's see: an Aimpoint Micro T1; an EOTech XPS with 3/4/5/7X Magnifier; a Trijicon ACOG 6X TA648RMR (which includes a Trijicon RMR on the top rail); a Russian Scope, similar to the NPZ Optics PSO-1.
I believe that Hybrid Sights will work as for those seen in Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3... ."
:Well, what one person ''believes'' will happen and what actually ''does'' happen are two different stories. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:02, 26 February 2012 (CST)

== Goblin = M6A2 PSD? ==

Anyone think it might be this weapon?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:LWRC_psd_RifleA.jpg

Popularised by Future Weapons et al which is where games have sourced their weapon selections before.

:No, it has different vent holes and looks like it is modeled with an ambidextrous selector. (Plus LWRCi guns have unique selector pictographs, I doubt the in-game rifle has those.) It is probably better to call it a custom AR-15 variant. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 05:54, 2 March 2012 (CST)

== Pistols? ==

WHERE ARE THE PISTOLS?I EXPECT PISTOLS?no spec-ops commando action game is good without pistols.
i was looking at some of the gameplay videos and when the Ghosts have two primary weapons then their leg holsters are empty but in the multiplayer sneak peek[UK],when the guy is presenting the multiplayer factions,in the secondary slot a pistol named HG 45T is shown.But this is a Work-In-Progress vid
:There were no clear images or videos of pistols so far. I saw the "45T" too, which is likely referring to the HK45 with a threaded barrel. There was also an MK23-style pistol in one of the gameplay videos but it was not clear enough to make a positive ID. The main thing is there WILL be pistols in the game that is 100 percent. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 17:56, 16 March 2012 (CDT)

:I saw a single player story trailer and it shows Kozak with a pistol while he's covering a hostage.It might be a MK23,or a USP.I think it looks sort of like a M1911 variant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEelVBr7_bE&feature=g-vrec&context=G27d85efRVAAAAAAAACA--[[User:Bravo6|Bravo6]] 01:26, 19 March 2012 (CDT)

:I edited the pistols page.The HK45T definitely appears as the 45T.I saw it in the new Guerilla Mode trailer/Preview--[[User:Bravo6|Bravo6]] 13:36, 29 March 2012 (CDT)

::Is the assumption of the HK45 just based on the icon and name, because the icon definitnely looks like an FNP-45 to me and they could have just taken the 45 out of FNP-45 and slapped on a T to signify the threaded barrel. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 19:54, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

== Pre-Order Bonus Guns ==
GameStop is advertising a Mark 14 Mod 0 EBR and an "AK-47" that looks pretty much exactly like the AK-200 already listed on the page (likely the same weapon) as pre-order bonuses [http://www.gamestop.com/collection/ghost-recon-future-soldier]. Additionally, an IGN advertisement for a bonus MP map showed a Ghost with what looks like an HK416 (not a 417, it had a 5.56-shaped mag) in his hands. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 17:36, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

:Oh, the weapon is correctly called as 'MK 14' (unlike [[Ghost Recon Online#Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle|GRO]]). That's a rarity nowadays. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 09:10, 12 April 2012 (CDT)

::I'm thinking that the designation confusion comes from developers mixing up the M14EBR-RI (a standard semi-auto M14 with an EBR stock) issued to US Army infantry squads with the Mark 14 used by SOF. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:29, 12 April 2012 (CDT)

:::Is there a visual way to differentiate between M14 EBR and M39 EMR? Because I suspect 'M14 EBR' in [[Battlefield Play4Free#M39 Enhanced Marksman Rifle|BFP4F]] might actually be one... --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 12:09, 12 April 2012 (CDT)
::::I think the BFP4F rifle is an M39, the pistol grip matches as opposed to on the TACOM M14 EBR-RI which has a more contoured finger grooved grip. Another difference is the scope mount, which doesn't apply as the only image on the BFP4F page has it removed. The M39 uses a mount which clamps onto the left side of the M14 receiver, whilst the M14 EBR-RI uses a cantilever mount which is attached to the rear portion of the rail system. Below is a pic of the EBR-RI. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 12:46, 12 April 2012 (CDT)
::::[[File:M14 EBR-RI.jpg|thumb|450px|none|TACOM M14 EBR-RI - 7.52x51mm]]

:::::Ah, that confirms it. The proper M14 EBR hasn't appeared in any commercial media as of yet. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 03:21, 13 April 2012 (CDT)
:::Spartan198, the Mk. 14 EBR is actually select fire, not semi-auto. Just saying. [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] 07:02, 18 April 2012 (PST)
:Spartan198, can you add the link of that video with the possible HK416? I cannot find it anywhere. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 05:05, 13 April 2012 (CDT)
::It's not a video, it was a screenshot in an advertisement for the game in this month's issue of IGN magazine. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:57, 13 April 2012 (CDT)

== HK 45T really is the FN FNP-45T actually ==

[[Image:FNP-45.jpg|500px]]

Notice the trigger guard.

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 18:24, 12 April 2012 (CDT)

and the grip is more slanted than the HK 45--[[User:BravoKilo|BravoKilo]] 01:35, 13 April 2012 (CDT)

- Good work.

== SR-25 ==
It's not a hybrid, the rifle featured in-game is a little-known variant known as the '''Mark 11 Mod 1'', basically a Mod 0 lower coupled with an M110-style upper. It was a stop-gag variant used by the US Marines while they were evaluating the Mark 11 system and prior to their signing on with the Army for the M110. [http://www.tactical-life.com/online/tactical-weapons/usmcs-new-sniping-sureshot-mk-11-mod-1-srs/] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:31, 16 April 2012 (CDT)

Never mind, scratch that. A brief bit more of searching (and... ahem... ''clearly reading the description'' this time) tells me that the length adjustable buttstock was added ''after'' the X was taken out of the designation, so this rifle technically would be an ''XM110'' rather than an M110 or other SR-25 variant. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:39, 16 April 2012 (CDT)

== Ak of some sort? ==

What gun is this that the guard is holding, it looks like some sort of AK carbine. [http://www.oxmonline.com/files/u11/mill-005.jpg]--[[User:Commandoninja137|Commandoninja137]] 16:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)

:Looks like some kind of [[AKMSU]] style gun with a RIS handguard and a railed top cover. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:07, 18 April 2012 (CDT)
[[File:AKPDW01.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AKMSU - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:GRFS AKMS promo.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]

== Less weapons then GRAW 2 ==

Seems to be alot less weapons. I know some will be pre-order bonusses but I hope more will come from clearing campaign, guerilla mode or DLC.
Also where's my ICQB ! On a lighter note the weapon customization is great. - Joey1666
:Remember that the 3 Russian PDRs and shotguns are still unknown. Not to mention the handguns and launchers. (I saw a standalone GL in a video, but I cannot find it anymore.) Devs said there will be 50+ weapons in MP, plus some others in SP or CO-OP (like the SA58 OSW). --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 14:03, 19 April 2012 (CDT)

::I checked the ghost recon network. Theres plenty more weapons, and the SA58 is a russian engineer weapon in the beta. The GRN has all 57 weapons on it :D - Joey1666

hey joey i'm trying to access the ghost recon network but every time i go to the official site the network page is just an ad for the game. where did you go to find the network-gabchang

http://ghostreconnetwork.ubi.com/ Try this then click log in. - Joey1666

thanks alot joey - Gabchang

== "Wild Boar" revolover ==
Seems to be a Chiappa Rhino revolver.--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] 18:51, 20 April 2012 (CDT)
:Thanks.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 19:41, 20 April 2012 (CDT)

== Saiga 12/20 ==

As the icon shows the magazine to be almost twice the length of the pistol grip wouldn't that make it a 20 gauge instead of the 12 gauge model?[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 08:54, 21 April 2012 (CDT)
:Could be a fictional hi-capacity magazine or just a modeling mistake. We will know the exact variant when a higher quality image will be released, as the Saiga-20 and Saiga-12 have different magazine release paddles. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 10:06, 21 April 2012 (CDT)
Can you give me a link for a picture, as it isn't the magazine length that will determine whether it is 12 or 20 gauge, but the gap between the trigger guard and the magazine which should be visible even with a low quality silhouette image. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 15:33, 21 April 2012 (CDT)

Good luck with the image ;)
[[Image:GRFS-SAIGA-whatever.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 16:26, 21 April 2012 (CDT)

Wow, that is small. However, I would agree that that is a 20 gauge, as it doesn't have the gap between the trigger guard and the magazine. It also seems to be missing a chunk of the barrel between the handgaurd and the muzzle, but c'est la vie. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:57, 21 April 2012 (CDT)

I found videos of all the weapons. Seems that it is a 12K, although even the ingame model doesn't seem to have that gap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUe3VIgccDo&t=5m13s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44MCxMrUrcE
You can get good pics of most of the guns from there. There's also a second stand-alone grenade launcher.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 18:17, 21 April 2012 (CDT)

:Added just when you were typing :) The mag release paddle clearly shows that it is the 12 Gauge variant.
::I would call it a 12, but the magazine is set too far back. However, the 12 uses a Type 1 AK-47 type receiver with three rivets along the bottom edge (as seen here) as opposed to the 20 which has an RPK type receiver. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:16, 21 April 2012 (CDT)
:Unrelated to this: I cannot figure out which M60 is this:
[[Image:GRFS-M60.jpg|thumb|none|601px|.]]
M60E3? --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 18:20, 21 April 2012 (CDT)
::Barrel means it's E3 or later. Rails everywhere means it's the MK43.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 18:36, 21 April 2012 (CDT)
They clearly haven't understood how the KARD works, what with attaching an accessory rail onto the underside of the moving recoil compensator. Or maybe they have, and whatever accessory you have under there will flick down to point at the ground with every shot and not return to the proper zero... --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:35, 22 April 2012 (CDT)

== "X26 Taser" ==

It's quite clearly not an X26 Taser from the screen shot posted but rather the X3 'Triple Shot' Taser. YEPPOON

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Taser_x3.jpg

http://media.southwestwakenews.com/smedia/2011/11/28/17/49/1lrL5L.St.157.jpg

== Unknown UBGL ==

Used by Team Bodark
[[Image:GRFS-UBGL.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Weapon selection view.]]
Thoughts? M203 with different muzzle? [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 13:22, 22 April 2012 (CDT)
:NEVERMIND, found it !! [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 13:58, 22 April 2012 (CDT)

They might of used the M203 as a model, but the breach/barrel twist to load, not slide forward like the real one. - Wantabe_Warrior38

It could of been inspired by the HK320 and it's side folding barrel. Either way this is a mystery of how much beer made it- LaFarge

== "Goblin" Possible ID ==

I've done a little digging, and I think I've got a pretty solid ID on the identity of the mystery short-barreled AR variant, dubbed the "Goblin".

Noting the atypical levers and overall styling of the weapon, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts it's a Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF) PDW.

Whoever else has the beta and can get another close look at the right side of the receiver would help confirm this. Compare it specifically with the second-to-top photo from this link: http://www.pof-usa.com/pdw/pdw.htm

Looks like the only major deviations from the real-world inspiration is the game's addition of a VLTOR ModStock, side Picatinny rail covers, and a new muzzle break, and the removal of the HK-style pictogram firemode indicators.

Thoughts, anyone?

--[[User:FiveOne|FiveOne]] 21:47, 24 April 2012 (CDT)

:I have to agree with you, even the trigger guard shape matches up and the pictures on the bottom of that link you gave have the same vent holes on the RIS hanguard. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 22:00, 24 April 2012 (CDT)

== Non-firearm equipment and gear factiods ==
I know this isn't info about the guns, but might still be neat to know. As I was looking at the MP Ghost riflemen, I notice 1) his front mag pouches are HSGI TACO mag pouches, and 2) the eye-pro for the FAST Opt B and IWH 2014 helmets are Oakley Gascans. Also the "forward grip" looks to be a Magpul RVG. The "Angled Grip" is a Magpul's AFG v.1. The Ghost's "Red Dot" is an Aimpoint Micro T1 (but I can't ID the mount right now), and the optics on both the Ghost's and Bodark's pistols are Trijicon RMR reflex sights. does it seem odd to anybody else that the Bodark's "Magnified HWS" sight is eerily similiar to an american Trijicon Reflex sight (likely based on the RX01NSN model)? - Wantabe_Warrior38

A lot of the recent screenshots I've seen in various gaming magazines also shows the Ghosts wearing custom color variants of the Oakley SI glove, right down to the logo on the wrist. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 14:38, 13 May 2012 (CDT)

Right! I forgot about that. I keep seeing them on the title screen of the MP beta. By the way, is the beta over? every time I try playing it it says the server is unavailable. - Wantabe_Warrior38

== AK-47 or AK variant ==

I found a few pictures of the AK-47, it seems to look like the one in MW2 if its an AK-47 at and not another AK variation. [[Media:http://playstationpure.be/ftp/Marc/GRFS/1.jpg]] [[File:http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQA0a8hV2wmA8lH0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi1.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F8ic_gdFDsZI%2Fhqdefault.jpg]]--[[User:Commandoninja137|Commandoninja137]] 20:49, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

Actually nevermind it won't upload.--[[User:Commandoninja137|Commandoninja137]] 20:59, 2 May 2012 (CDT)

== Is this the final weapon list. ==

Is this the final weapon list or is this the ones you guys caught in the trailer?
:Yes, this is. There will be other guns like vehicle mounted or turrets, but these are the usable weapons. -[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 02:42, 13 May 2012 (CDT)

== Ghost Recon Alpha - Official Short Movie ==

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7-wAzlqzXH0#! Ghost Recon Alpha - Official HD Film]

Has anyone seen this? It's basically a more elaborate version of the live action trailer that we originally saw in 2010. I think it can have its own page, since there is a separate IMDB for it: [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2386231/ Ghost Recon Alpha] --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 12:27, 15 May 2012 (CDT)

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

2011-10-26T15:19:15Z

Crimsonsguns: /* M4A1 */ corrected laser information

[[Image:MGS4poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'' (2008)]]

''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'' is a 2008 stealth-action / third-person shooter video game directed by Hideo Kojima, developed by Kojima Productions and published by Konami. It concludes the saga of the character Solid Snake (now known as Old Snake). Set in the year 2014 following the events of the previous games, the storyline takes Snake through a series of warzones where rebels are fighting hired PMC soldiers as part of an ongoing "War Economy" engineered by a mysterious organization known as "The Patriots." Snake's mission is to uncover a plot by his old nemesis Liquid Snake, now seemingly reborn in the body of the gunman Revolver Ocelot, and set on bringing down the "System," an apparently invincible computer network which controls the world.

'''The following weapons can be seen in the video game ''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'':'''

'''Note: Spoilers are present in some weapon descriptions.'''

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=Overview=

[[Image:MGS4-Intro.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Snake admires the place he's going to keep enough weaponry to outfit a company.]]
''Metal Gear Solid 4'' uses a split inventory system where the player character, Old Snake, can equip up to six weapons, which are then available using a quick-access menu; this is explained as Snake's "backpack," despite that he is not actually wearing one. The rest can be accessed via the pause menu, this swapping explained in-game as the TARDIS-like depths of Metal Gear Mark 2, a foot-tall robot which seemingly has no issues containing more or less every weapon on this page along with enough ammunition to destroy Belgium. Snake's currently equipped weapons each count their weight towards a total for all gear; heavy loads will cause his "stress" meter to rise faster when he moves around. Only weapons count towards weight; ammunition is treated as weighing nothing. This gets bizarre with disposable systems where each reload is a whole weapon in itself but all except the currently held one are treated as weightless "ammunition;" for example, only one of the fifty LAWs Snake can be carrying actually weighs anything for purposes of inventory weight.

Weapons can be found in the environment, but often feature biometric ID locks which prevent unauthorized use. To remove these, Snake can access a "gun launderer" by the name of Drebin and exchange points earned for the "war price" of repeatedly collected weapons, allowing him to purchase ammunition, buy new weapons and accessories, or unlock already collected ID-locked weapons for use. Drebin is explained as having an inside line to the "System" which controls the ID chips so he can replace existing chips with factory blanks (the process leading to the pun of the character called Drebin saying he sells "[[Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!, The|Naked Guns]]"), but in reality such an operative would quickly find himself driven out of business by rogue gunsmiths simply replacing the ID lock parts with the original mechanical ones and bypassing the "System" entirely.

The game removes the "Tactical Reload" option of previous games where unequipping and re-equipping a weapon would instantly reload it; weapons now actually have to be reloaded properly. The animations have an odd quirk: apparently between games, Snake has decided to start practicing the "Middle Eastern Technique" mentioned in ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' of always chambering a new round when reloading, even when performing a mid-magazine reload. Despite this being described as a pistol shooting technique, he does it with every weapon ''except'' pistols; they are correctly shown ejecting an unfired round when he does it unless the magazine was totally spent when he reloaded. This seems largely done to explain what happens to the "extra" round that was in the chamber.

The game features an accessory system for weapons, with certain guns able to be customised; this is rather inconsistent, with many weapons not able to receive any modifications at all while only a handful have more than one or two accessory points, the majority limited to either an optional suppressor, underbarrel launcher or taclight. The showcase of the system is Snake's signature "M4 Custom" rifle, which can accept the largest number of accessories of any weapon. Shotguns and most grenade launchers also feature multiple types of ammunition, and weapons typically feature selectable fire modes if they have them in real life.

Accessory tactical weapon lights are shown rather strangely in game; apparently Snake has a fundamentalist attitude towards light discipline and maintains it ''everywhere'', even in broad daylight. This means taclights will only be flashed on and off briefly regardless of what the player wants; the result is only really useful for briefly blinding guards if Snake points the light in their face at extremely close range.

=Handguns=

==Custom M1911==

Big Boss's highly customised [[M1911_pistol_series|M1911]] from [[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater|Operation Snake Eater]] can unlocked via entering a password. Being an unlockable "special" weapon, it deals more damage than the other .45 ACP handguns. The Custom M1911 can be fitted with its own unique degradable suppressor; it is not compatible with the ones for Snake's Springfield Operator.

[[Image:1911custom.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A reproduction of Big Boss' custom M1911 - .45ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-M1911Cus-HQ.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"1911 Custom" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-1911Cus-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads Big Boss' custom M1911, resisting his genes telling him to first have a three-minute CODEC call about how awesome it is.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mark22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In a painting in Big Mama's church, Big Boss brandishes his custom M1911.]]

==EAA Tanfoglio Thor .45-70==

The Thor .45-70 is a highly accurate and incredibly powerful single-shot bolt action pistol (referred to in the description as a "hand rifle") that must be manually chambered after every firing. It is Liquid Ocelot's signature weapon, both in singleplayer and multiplayer; in the singleplayer story he only actually fires it once, and his outfit does not display it openly as previous game did with his revolvers. It can be unlocked and used by the player by either earning the Foxhound emblem or entering a code, and comes with a unique red dot sight; this cannot be removed, and the weapon has no other customisation options.

[[Image:THOR .45-70.jpg|thumb|400px|none|EAA Tanfoglio Thor - .45-70]]
[[Image:MGS4-Thor.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Thor .45-70 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Thor-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Facing Snake on the non-existent Volta River, Ocelot pulls his Thor from an unspecified location inside his coat...]]
[[Image:MGS4-Thor-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...And prepares to fire the only shot he ever fires from it. Though in spite of his line, not at Snake.]]

==FN Five-seveN==

The [[FN Five-seveN]] is the standard sidearm for Liquid Ocelot's elite FROG special operations unit (FROG standing for absolutely nothing), and is also one of the weapons used by Dwarf Gekko drones. It can be bought from Drebin, taken from a destroyed Dwarf Gekko, or taken from a FROG by disarming them of their primary weapon and then killing them or knocking them out. Since it shares ammunition with the fairly common P90, it is unlikely to have problems with ammunition, and it has a large magazine. However, it cannot mount a suppressor, the only option being a tactical light. The presence of the weapon is a reference to ''Metal Gear: Ghost Babel'' and the ''Ac!d'' games, where it is Solid Snake's primary weapon.

[[Image:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN Five-seveN - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Five-Seven.jpg|thumb|601px|none|FN Five-seveN on the item menu.]]

==Glock 18C==

The [[Glock#Glock_18|Glock 18C]] can be purchased from Drebin, has a 33-round magazine, and oddly enough, is the only 9x19mm handgun in the game. It can be customised with a tactical flashlight. The weapon is a reference to ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', where Fatman's weapon of choice (aside from bombs) was a Glock 18, albeit with an 19-round magazine instead. This handgun is also available in multiplayer.

[[Image:Pistol Austrian Glock 18 with 31 round magazine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 18C - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Glock.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Glock 18C on the item menu.]]

==Heckler & Koch Mark 23 Phase II Prototype==

The [[Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0|Heckler & Koch Mark 23 Phase II Prototype]] can be found in the game in Act 4; its status as Solid Snake's previous handgun in the original ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' is noted. It is also used in the Raven Sword PMC commercial in the introduction, and is seen in the holsters of Meryl's Rat Patrol soldiers and Raiden. The SOCOM presented in ''MGS1'', ''MGS2'' and ''MGS4'' is the Phase II model prototype submitted for trials in the USSOCOM Offensive Handgun Weapon System (OHWS) competition around the later part of 1991, and not the actual production model Mark 23 Mod 0. It is distinguished by small cocking serrations on the front of the slide, which the production model, Mod 0, does not have. The Mark 23 mounts the distinctive blocky LAM under the barrel as in previous games, and can also be fitted with a degradable suppressor. The Mark 23 is the subject of a number of the game's "Easter eggs," including being found almost exactly where it was in the original game. This is the only place it can be found in the campaign, and it is never available from Drebin; the only other way to unlock it is via a cheat code.

This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is also the only firearm that the special character Raiden is equipped with.

[[Image:SOCOM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Tokyo-Marui '''Airsoft replica''' of the H&K Mark 23 Phase II Prototype - (fake) .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk23.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Mark 23 Phase II Prototype on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk23-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Old Snake:''' ''"Just like old times . . . "'' Old Snake holds his Mark 23 Phase II Prototype as he stands in front of Shadow Moses Island's tank hangar and remembers the good old days.]]
[[Image:MGS4-UnknownPistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny Sasaki (who actually uses a GSR) and the other members of the Rat Patrol have "holster stuffers" that resemble Mark 23, save for Meryl who for reasons best known to herself just wears the empty holster. The model used is fairly inaccurate for a Mark 23, having a metallic tang like a Desert Eagle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk23-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raiden uses the same holster model except in black, though he's always too busy using his sword and heap of knives to bother with his handgun. His cybernetic body makes him look pretty cool until you get to his feet which have high heels for reasons only known to Konami.]]

==IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX==

The [[Desert Eagle]], simply called the "D.E." is used by Meryl Silverburgh ingame. It can be purchased from Drebin, or occasionally picked up from the "Dwarf Gekko" drones (who amazingly have the strength to fire it accurately from one undersized mechanical hand). A 10-inch barrelled variant with a scope can be unlocked, and is also used by Meryl. A bizarre glitch is that when Snake reloads the long-barrel Desert Eagle, rather than just holding a magazine he is holding an entire second gun in his other hand. Additionally, there is a second glitch where Meryl's slide will lock back and she will not play the reload animation. There may or may not be a round loaded when the second glitch happens; her remaining rounds can't be seen, so it is hard to tell.

This weapon is available in the game's multiplayer mode, Metal Gear Online. Players using Meryl's character online who equip a standard Desert Eagle in the pistol slot and the long-barrelled variant in the primary weapon slot will allow her to switch from one gun to another when the first is empty, without ever pausing to reload.

[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|400px|none|IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX - .50 AE]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Desert Eagle on the item menu. Note Magnum Research's new barrel with a Picatinny rail. The rail cannot be used on this version, however.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Meryl's special 10"-barrelled Desert Eagle with a scope on the item menu.]]
[[File:MerylDEMGS4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl aims her Desert Eagle at Old Snake upon first encountering him. Despite likely wearing her balaclava up until this point, she removes it and does not use it for the rest of the game. The Meryl special character in multiplayer, however, can remove and re-don her balaclava at any time, as can Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl holds her regular Desert Eagle in the Advent Palace. She tends to use the normal one indoors, saving the 10-inch scoped version for outdoors. This relatively sensible choice doesn't really mitigate the bigger issue of using a pair of hand-cannons in the first place.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Desert Eagle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He then re-Deagles his long-barrelled Desert Eagle. This error is most likely caused by forgetting to separate the magazine and weapon objects in the game's files. Meryl's character in Metal Gear Online does not possess this glitch when reloading this weapon on its own.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first sight of Meryl's specially modified Desert Eagle is, oddly enough, on a monitor in the back of Drebin's Stryker.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|By only carrying two Desert Eagles, Meryl fails "rifleman" on two counts, though she might make a passable futuristic pistolier. Note the unusual holster necessitated by her 10"-barrel Desert Eagle's scope mount.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the "System" shuts down for the first time, everyone except Johnny Sasaki suffers a psychological breakdown; this includes Meryl, who drops her long-barrel Desert Eagle as she collapses.]]
[[File:MGS4DesertEagleLongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Screaming Mantis forces Meryl to hold her long-barrelled Desert Eagle to her head, which is a reference to the original [[Metal Gear Solid]] when Psycho Mantis did the same thing to Meryl.]]
[[File:MGS4DE-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl fires her Desert Eagle at FROG soldiers inside Outer Haven.]]
[[File:MGS4DE-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl and Johnny fire a brace of handguns at the FROGs, Meryl wielding her standard and long barrelled Desert Eagles, while Johnny fires a Desert Eagle he got from Drebin along with his SIG-Sauer GSR.]]

== Luger P08 "Artillery Model" ==

During the bizarre live-action introduction sequences, one of the channels shows a PMC advertisement with two people in Middle Eastern-style robes hovering in mid-air as the camera circles around them. The one in white is armed with a long-barrelled "Artillery Model" [[Luger P08]].

[[Image:LugerP08Artillery.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm. This is the long barrelled "Artillery" model of the Luger P08 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|One of the two strange combatants during the intro's PMC commercial holds up her long-barrelled Luger P08.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Luger, with the toggle lock visible.]]

==Makarov PMM==

The [[Makarov PM#Makarov PMM|Makarov PMM]] is used by the rebel "mark" Snake has to track during the third Act, and can be purchased from Drebin. It is also the sidearm of the Paradise Lost resistance group as a whole, though they are only seen using it in cutscenes. There is little to be said for it; it uses uncommon ammunition, cannot be customised or suppressed, and really seems to only be in the game to give the rebels in Act 3 a suitably Eastern European sidearm.

[[Image:Makarov PMM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Makarov PMM - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Makarov PMM on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Paradise Lost member draws his PMM as Snake enters their safehouse.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Makarov isn't exactly a Walther PPK, but then Snake isn't exactly James Bond, either.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Revisiting the Blast Furnace on Shadow Moses in Act 4, Snake takes on the army of Dwarf Gekko which now live there. Despite the name, the area does not actually contain a blast furnace: perhaps "Two Pools of Molten Metal Room" didn't have the same ring to it.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Makarov PMM.]]

== Mk22 Mod 0 "Hush Puppy" ==

In the third Act, a painting of Big Boss brandishing his M1911 Custom with his Mk22 Mod 0 (Navy modified [[Smith & Wesson Model 39]]) holstered is briefly focused on.

[[Image:Mk22 Mod 0.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mk22 Mod 0 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mark22.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Big Boss brandishes his M1911 Custom, with his Mark 22 holstered.]]

==PSS==

The [[PSS Silent Pistol|PSS]] can be found in several areas throughout the game or bought from Drebin; Drebin seems to have an odd fondness for this weapon, and it commands a premium price when found. It uses 6-round magazines with special "silent" 7.62x42mm ammunition, making it a lethal counterpart to the MK. 2 tranquilizer pistol (neither has a degradable suppressor).

[[Image:Pistol Russian PSS in 7.62x41mm SP-4 special purpose noiseless cartridge.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PSS Silent Pistol - 7.62x42mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|PSS silent pistol on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Literally two dozen yards from the end of the first Act, Snake uses his PSS Silent Pistol to make a Praying Mantis soldier silent.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The threat dealt with, he reloads his weapon.]]

=="Race Gun"==

The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racegun Race Gun] is based on Strayer Voigt Inc's 1911-styled double stack pistols; it is not even close to a modern high-end race gun, with only the choice of ammunition really distinguishing it as anything unusual. The gun holds 19 rounds in 9x23mm Winchester which is a moderately powered pistol cartridge; the game's version, for reasons which are never particularly apparent, uses rounds lightly loaded with smokeless powder, providing barely enough force to cycle the gun's mechanism. In game terms, this means the low-powered bullets will ricochet off hard surfaces and can be used for the "trick shots" showcased by Revolver Ocelot with his Colt Single Action Army in previous games; the result is basically just a gimmick gun for showing off, and is useless in practical terms thanks to its low damage stats (which appropriately reflect the stopping power of such underloaded ammunition). Once the game is completed at least once, the pistol will be unlocked automatically. The Race Gun cannot be customised.

[[Image:SVI_Infinity.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Strayer Voigt Inc Infinity pistol - 9x23mm Winchester]]
[[Image:MGS4-Racegun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Race Gun" on the item menu.]]

==Ruger Mk. II==

An integrally suppressed, manually operated fictional variant of the [[Ruger Mk II Pistol]], that fires tranquilizer rounds and has grips with a built-in laser sight and what appears to be a carbon-fibre barrel / upper receiver. It is given to Solid Snake by Otacon early in the game. After the game is completed, it is also able to fire fictional "Emotion" darts which induce one of the game's four psychological states (Cry, Laugh, Rage and Scream) in the target before knocking them out. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger Mk II pistol with professional Ciener Suppressor - .22 LR. This is a classic Silenced Pistol and this pistol has been seen in several motion pictures]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Mk. 2 Pistol" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Ruger Mk. II is presented to Snake using Metal Gear Mk. II's manipulator, Otacon seemingly having decided to give Snake two Mk. IIs for the price of one. Note laser sight grips.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the bolt of his custom Ruger Mk. II. This weapon is the successor to ''MGS2'' and ''MGS3's'' tranquilizer guns, and as in those games is manually operated.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After giving a Praying Mantis PMC soldier a hard-earned rest, Snake reloads his Ruger Mk. II.]]

==Shansi Type 17==

Used by Big Mama, this is a Chinese made version of the [[Mauser C96]], chambered for .45 ACP ammunition. The Type 17 can be fired in semi-auto or, incorrectly, full-auto (the real Type 17 never had select-fire capability), and uses a 10-round fixed magazine loaded with a single 10-round stripper clip. It lacks any customisation options (not even able the option to mount its well-known stock) and also cannot be reloaded until it is totally empty. It can be unlocked by earning the Hound emblem at the end of the game, or through entering a code. While this is the weapon Big Mama used in her previous guise as Eva in ''Metal Gear Solid 3'', it is not the same Type 17, since that one was lost during the motorcycle chase. Big Mama uses this weapon to destroy three Dwarf Gekko drones which manage to infiltrate her European hideout.

[[Image:C96-10.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Shansi Type 17 with unfired rounds and 5-round stripper clips - .45 ACP. The game version uses a single 10-rounder, common for other C96 versions, but the Chinese copies were usually issued with 5-rounders which allowed them to be reloaded once five or more rounds had been fired.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Shansi.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Type 17 on the item menu. Note the undersized fire-selector borrowed from the [[Mauser C96#Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer|Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer]] above and to the right of the trigger; the Shansi Type 17 in reality is not select-fire and thus has no such switch.]]
[[File:MGS4ShansiType17-0.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Mama continues to use the method of "Bandit Shooting" that she utilised in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'', turning the gun sideways to clear rooms in a horizontal sweep. This is probably the only way to take the impractical "Gangsta" style shooting and make it practical.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Shansi-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After taking out three Dwarf Gekko drones, Big Mama strikes a pose with her Shansi Type 17.]]

==SIG-Sauer GSR==

The [[M1911 pistol series|SIG-Sauer GSR]] is the standard sidearm for all four of the game's Private Military Companies, and is also used by the small "Dwarf Gekko" drones. Any PMC soldier disarmed of his primary weapon will draw his GSR; the weapon can also be purchased from Drebin or found in a side-room in the first Act. The GSR uses the common .45 ACP round, but is inferior to Snake's default Springfield Operator due to being unable to mount a suppressor (though it does have the advantage of a slightly higher magazine capacity compared to the Operator).

This weapon is available in multiplayer, and if the "Drebin Points" option is not enabled, the GSR will become the only lethal pistol available to players who are not using unique storyline characters.

[[Image:SIG-Sauer GSR M1911.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG-Sauer GSR - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SIG-Sauer GSR on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Investigating a group of dead PMC soldiers in a side-room of the rebel safehouse in Act 1, Snake finds a discarded GSR on the floor.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun rack in Drebin's Stryker includes two GSRs, two unloaded Glock 18Cs, and in the rack further down a pair of SCAR-H CQC rifles and two copies of Snake's M4A1 Custom; beyond them is a barely-visible AK-102 and a pair of LAWs. Several of these weapons are low-detail since they are part of the Stryker model rather than copies of the normal model. The two boxes between the pistol and rifle racks are the generic model for "custom parts" and are used for both weapon accessories and accessory weapons such as the GP-30 and Masterkey.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the system breaks down at the end of the first Act, a PMC soldier equipped with a GSR in his leg holster attempts to give Snake a hug. Note also the two large pouches for M67 hand grenades on his belt.]]
[[File:MGS4SIGGSR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny fires his GSR at FROG soldiers onboard Outer Haven.]]
[[File:MGS4SIGGSR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl picks up Johnny's GSR and fires it after he is wounded.]]
[[File:MGS4SIGGSR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mei Ling, Captain of the USS ''Missouri'' and returning support character from the first MGS, cradles her GSR as her ship is attacked.]]

==Springfield Operator==

A customised [[M1911_pistol_series#Springfield_Armory_M1911_-_A1|Springfield Operator]] is Old Snake's signature handgun in ''Metal Gear Solid 4'', and the weapon he most commonly has equipped during cutscenes; it is clearly designed to resemble the custom M1911 used by Big Boss during the previous game, though it is by no means identical. It is given to him for free (along with a [[Ruger Mk II Pistol]]) by Otacon early in the first Act of the game; Otacon comments that it was never integrated into the System, hence Snake's ability to use it before meeting Drebin. The Operator has the ability to mount both a tactical flashlight and a degradable suppressor, being one of only two pistols able to mount a suppressor and underbarrel accessory (the other being the Mark 23), and uses the very common .45 ACP round. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:PX9105MLP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Springfield Armory Loaded MC Operator - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Snake_.45.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Old Snake's Springfield Operator.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Springfield Operator on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Otacon presents the Operator to Snake, with the suppressor installed. Oddly, it tends to not be installed during cutscenes; while this might conceivably be done in case Snake has no suppressors left, Snake has no problem using it when he has no .45 ACP ''ammunition'' left.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Snake checks over his Operator after being presented it, first unloading it and examining the slide, then the fit of the suppressor, and finally pulling the trigger to let the hammer fall on the empty chamber.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He's soon merrily testing it out on the Praying Mantis PMC soldiers.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Operator; note the handle of his Stun Knife in his left hand. He frequently reloads weapons with this in his hand, as a nod to the CQC knife-and-gun techniques in ''Metal Gear Solid 3''.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Encountering Drebin, Snake keeps his unsuppressed Operator trained on the Gun Launderer, not eager to trust someone who hangs around with a weird hairless monkey thing.]]
[[File:MGS4OldSnakeSpringerOp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aims his Operator at Liquid Ocelot at the end of Act 1, unable to get a shot off due to his nanomachines being interfered with by Liquid Ocelot's failed attempt to login to the System using Liquid Snake's DNA.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aims his Operator at Drebin's weird naked monkey-creature "Little Gray" as he wonders where it all went wrong.]]
[[File:MGS4SpringerOp-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Liquid Ocelot:''' ''"When it comes to CQC, I have the upper hand."'' Liquid Ocelot holds Snake's Operator on him after disarming him at the end of Act 3.]]
[[File:MGS4SpringerOp-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Old Snake:''' ''"One last punishment I must endure: erase my genes, wipe this meme from the face of the Earth. This is my final mission."'' Snake puts the barrel of his Operator in his mouth when preparing to commit suicide, a scene that is viewable right from the beginning of the game and requires completion of the game to fully explain. This screenshot provides a clear view of the laser activation switch on the slide release, and the Bomar-style rear sights.]]
[[File:MGS4SpringerOp-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Unable to commit suicide, Snake fires the only bullet into random space. Note that the slide locked back on an empty magazine follower, despite the fact that Snake only loaded one round in the chamber and then pocketed the magazine. This means the slide should be in battery.]]

=Submachine Guns=

This category in-game also includes the "Patriot" compact carbine, but that weapon is listed under assault rifles due to firing an intermediate round rather than a pistol round.

==FN P90==

The [[FN P90]] is the primary weapon of Liquid Ocelot's FROG commando unit and is also used by Laughing Octopus in-game; since the FROGs are a common enemy in the game, ammunition is fairly plentiful. The P90 correctly features an integral reflex sight on the carrying handle, and also has three accessory mounting points, able to fit a suppressor, laser aiming module and a tactical light. Unusually for a game, the 50-round polycarbonate magazine is correctly shown as translucent, and visibly empties as the weapon is fired in first person. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and if the "Drebin Points" option is enabled, it becomes the most expensive weapon of its type in that mode, thanks to its ease of use and plethora of customisation options.

[[Image:FNP90Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-P90.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FN P90 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-P90-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Liquid Ocelot's all-female special unit, the FROGs, carry P90s as standard-issue; this is in part a callback to the Arsenal Tengu troopers of ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', who wore similar armor and also wielded P90s. As with the Arsenal Tengus, the gas masks of the FROGs are apparently fake and offer them no protection against gas-based attacks.]]
[[File:MGS4P90-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up on the receiver of a suppressed P90. Looking down while lying prone with any gun gives this type of view.]]
[[Image:MGS4-P90-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the "Guns of the Patriots" sequence in Act 3, a group of FROG soldiers on Liquid's boat manage the impressive feat of firing their P90s for twenty solid seconds without ever once being shown reloading, implying they somehow managed to fit 300 rounds into a standard P90 magazine.]]
[[File:MGS4P90-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FROG soldier firing her P90.]]
[[File:MGS4P90-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up on a FROG's P90.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5SD2==

The [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5SD2]] can be purchased from Drebin and is equipped with an integral, non-degrading suppressor. However, the tradeoff is that it is one of the weakest weapons in the entire game, and uses the surprisingly uncommon 9x19mm round. This weapon is available in multiplayer, but cannot be customised. The appearance of this weapon is a reference to the "Integral" version of the original ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' for the Playstation 1 console that was sold only in Japan, where it was available on the Very Easy difficulty and had infinite ammunition.

[[Image:MP5SD5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD2 - 9x19mm, The one in-game has the older S-E-F trigger group.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MP5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MP5SD2 on the item menu.]]
[[File:MGS4MP5SD2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming down the sights of the MPSSD2.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP7A1==

The [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]] is used by several of the PMC operatives in game. It can be first found and used by the player in Act 2 and can be equipped with a unique red dot sight or the ACOG scope. For whatever reason, the weapon is depicted ingame as being distinctly inferior to the P90, lacking any option to attach a suppressor, tactical light, or laser sight (all of which it can use in real life). It is also stuck with using a low-capacity 20-round magazine ingame (intended for use for when the MP7 is issued as a select-fire, armour-piercing, backup weapon you can holster), instead of its more appropriate 40-round magazine variant (intended for use when the MP7 is issued as a primary weapon).

[[Image:Hk mp7 b-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 with Hensoldt RSA red dot sight - 4.6x30mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-MP7.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MP7A1 on the item menu.]]

==Izhmash PP-19 Bizon==

The [[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]] can be purchased from Drebin; the game claims it to be a "new Russian submachine gun," even though it was twelve years old when the game came out and is sixteen years old in the game's universe; the version in-game is not even a current model, instead being based on the earliest production model. The version in game is chambered for 9x18mm Makarov, which translates into a 64-round magazine capacity. The Bizon cannot be customised in the game, though it can be used one-handed during the motorcycle chase in Act 3.

[[Image:Bizon1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Early PP-19 Bizon - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:MGS4-Bizon.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bizon on the item menu.]]

==MAC-10==

The [[MAC-10]] can be purchased from Drebin or found in Act 2. It can be equipped with a suppressor. Unlike most depictions, Snake actually uses both hands and the stock in-game.

[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|320px|none|Ingram MAC-10 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-M10.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MAC-10 as "M10" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M10-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires his MAC-10 during the motorcycle sequence of Act 3; apparently Big Mama doesn't mind him firing unsuppressed fully automatic weapons right next to her ear.]]

==Skorpion Vz 82==

The [[Skorpion_SA#SA Vz. 82 Skorpion|SA Vz. 82 Skorpion]] is used by Paradise Lost resistance members riding motorcycles in the Eastern Europe section of the game (Act 3), and is given to Old Snake by Big Mama in the same level. While called the "Vz. 83" ingame, the game shows it as being chambered in 9x18mm Makarov rather than .380 ACP, making it a Vz. 82. It comes equipped with a visible laser sight.

Its comparatively low magazine capacity of 20 rounds, low stats, and inability to be customised, coupled with the fact that FN P90s can be obtained for free much earlier ingame, make it arguably a weapon hardly-chosen by most players, so it's largely for the nostalgia factor in singleplayer (the very similar [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion]] made an appearance in Metal Gear Solid 3), though players can still take advantage of the fact that it's the submachinegun with highest lock-on in the game, being especially useful for one-shotting enemies during the Act 3 chase scene. Multiplayer, however, is a different story, as it is the only firearm in its inventory slot to be available free of charge (if Drebin Points are enabled) for non-unique player characters, as well as possessing the longest auto-aim lock-on range of any weapon in multiplayer modes.

[[Image:Scorpion SA Vz 82.jpg|thumb|none|330px|SA Vz. 82 Skorpion - 9x18mm Makarov.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Klobb.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Skorpion Vz 82 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Klobb-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Mama hands Snake a Vz 82 during the cutscene before the motorcycle escape sequence.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Klobb-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As usual, he inspects it before accepting.]]

=Shotguns=

Note: All shotguns in this game can use 00 buckshot, shotgun slugs, or non-lethal vortex ring ammunition.

==Remington 870 Custom==

A heavily customised [[Remington 870]] can be purchased from Drebin or found in the second Act; it comes with a Surefire dedicated forend WeaponLight as standard, and can also be equipped with an Aimpoint red dot sight or ACOG scope; if neither is fitted, it will have no sights at all, with Snake simply aiming along the top mounted-rail. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is the only weapon of its type in that mode if the "Drebin Points" option is not enabled.

[[Image:Model870P 14inlg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police "Entry Gun" with a SureFire dedicated forend WeaponLight - 12 gauge. The version in ''MGS4'' is further customised with a top rail instead of iron sights and a collapsible stock similar to the one used by the Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-870C.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"870 custom" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-870C-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FROG reels in confusion as Snake aims a pump-action RIS rail at her. "It's a shotgun, I swear!"]]
[[Image:MGS4-870C-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With the Aimpoint scope attached, the 870 Custom at least looks a bit more respectable.]]

== Remington 870 "MasterKey" ==

A short barrelled [[Remington 870]] configured like an [[Knight's Armament Masterkey]] is available as an attachment for the "M4 Custom" only, and can be found in the hands of PMC search teams; curiously, they have it equipped in a standalone configuration with a pistol grip and stock, raising the question of why they aren't just using a regular full-size shotgun instead. The inferior tube magazine capacity and lower effective range would make it far less useful than a full-sized shotgun for general use, and for close quarters combat or door breaching a purpose-built short shotgun would be a far more logical choice than issuing a rifle accessory which needs to be attached to ''another'' accessory to actually function.

[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:M4masterkey01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 carbine with Masterkey shotgun - 5.56mm & 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Kacsbsa.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Masterkey in standalone configuration.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4CMasterkey.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Masterkey accessory shotgun mounted to the M4 Custom on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Masterkey.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Old Snake's M4 Custom in full recoil as he uses his Masterkey to ruin someone's day.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Masterkey-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Satisified for now, Old Snake reloads his Masterkey.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Masterkey-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Attaching an accessory shotgun to a standalone grip is rather like buying an iPod and then nailing it to the side of a desktop PC.]]

==Saiga 12==

The [[Saiga-12]] can be purchased from Drebin. It is the only weapon of its type capable of semiautomatic fire, as well as the only one that uses a detachable box magazine (with a capacity of 8 rounds); along with very clear iron sights, this makes it distinctly superior to the other shotguns in more or less every regard. This weapon is available in multiplayer, but cannot be customised in the game.

[[Image:Saiga 12k-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Saiga-12K - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:MGS4-Saiga12.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Saiga 12 on the item menu, loaded here with less-lethal (in game terms, non-lethal) vortex ring rounds.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Saiga12-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Finding the Advent Palace hotel's kitchen infested with FROGs, Snake takes prompt action before an inspector shows up and shuts the place down.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Saiga12-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having done his bit for the community, Snake reloads his Saiga 12.]]

=="Twin Barrel"==

A [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun#Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)|sawed off side-by-side double barrel shotgun]], that can either be found in the game or purchased from Drebin. For some reason, Old Snake is restricted to using it with a one-handed grip. He can also only fire both barrels at once, though this is due to the shotgun only having a single trigger for both barrels.

[[Image:SS311A sawed-off-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed-off Baikal side-by-side shotgun - 12 gauge. Similar to the ''MGS4'' "Twin Barrel," though the latter has only a single trigger.]]
[[Image:MGS4-shotty.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Twin Barrel" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Shotty-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Paradise Lost member holds a sawed-off double-barrel shotgun on Snake as the old man breaks into their headquarters.]]

=Assault Rifles / Battle Rifles=

==AK-102==

The [[AK-47#AK-102|AK-102]] is used by the rebel forces in the Middle East section (Act 1), and is Solid Snake's first weapon in the game (next to Solid Snake right after the first cutscene after the opening). It can be equipped with a [[GP-30]] grenade launcher. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and if the "Drebin Points" option is enabled, the AK-102 becomes the cheapest assault rifle in that mode.

[[Image:AK102.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AK-102 carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102.jpg|thumb|none|601px|AK-102 on the item menu, fitted with a GP30 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In the first Act, Snake only manages a short burst from his original militia-issued AK before it jams up on him, leaving him to discard it. An optional CODEC call reveals this was due to faulty locally-produced ammunition.]]
[[File:MGS4AK102-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires the AK-102 at Praying Mantis PMC troops.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his second AK-102. There are two slightly different AK-102 models used in game; the "hero" version used only in cutscenes has modelled bullets in the magazine, while the in-game is empty.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Snake reloads the "hero" AK model, with a more detailed magazine.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Menaced by Gekko, Snake still has time to strike a dramatic pose. He discards this AK shortly after this.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Snake encounters his third and last AK-102. Finding it on the ground next to a dead soldier, he carefully checks it for booby-traps before picking it up.]]

==AN-94==

The [[AN-94]] can be found in a shack at the beginning of Act 2 or purchased from Drebin. It can be equipped with a [[GP-30]] grenade launcher. The game correctly simulates the weapon's unusual mode of fully-automatic fire by first firing a 1,800 RPM two-round burst, before cycling the following rounds at 600 RPM. While it is powerful and accurate, it features a very poor iron sight and 5.45x39mm ammunition pickups are basically non-existent, with only a handful in the fourth Act. Its presence is a reference to ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', where Russian mercenaries under the command of Sergei Gurlukovich were equipped with the AN-94 during their attack on the Big Shell; unlike its previous incarnation, however, the AN-94 in this game cannot mount a tactical flashlight.

[[Image:Russian AN-94 Abakan Nikonov 5.45x39mm assault rifle 3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AN-94 Abakan Nikonov assault rifle - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94.jpg|thumb|601px|none|AN94 on the item menu, equipped with a GP-30 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94-3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Snake holds an AN-94 fitted with a GP-30 grenade launcher as he waits for an elevator in the abandoned Shadow Moses base's nuclear warhead storage building.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|While waiting, he amuses himself by using the hideously tiny iron sight of the AN-94 to shoot at some of the warheads that the US military left lying around when the base was abandoned in an extremely sensible fashion. Apparently the alteration to his nanomachines that prevented him doing so before is long past its shelf life.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Luckily, the lethal radiation leak this used to cause has apparently also passed its shelf life and the warheads no longer care about being shot at, leaving Snake to smugly reload his weapon.]]

== AKS-74U ==

During the bizarre live-action introduction sequences, one of the channels shows a PMC advertisement with two people in Middle Eastern-style robes hovering in mid-air as the camera circles around them. The one in black is armed with an [[AK-74#AKS-74U|AKS-74U]].

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U (also referred to as the "AKSU" or 'Krinkov') - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AKS.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A strangely-dressed pair of live-action combatants duel in the air, one holding an AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A second shot of the AKS-74U. This seems to be one of those adverts where nobody can actually figure out what the product was after seeing it.]]

== FAMAS ==

The [[FAMAS]] is not usable in the game, but appears in flashbacks to ''Metal Gear Solid'', as well as the brief "nightmare" sequence of ''MGS1'' gameplay.

[[Image:FAMAS F2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAS-G1 - 5.56x45mm. Older version of the G2 with magazine and magazine release system from FAMAS F1]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAMAS.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Meryl Silverburgh holds a FAMAS on Solid Snake during a flashback to the first game.]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAMAS-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|During the nightmare sequence at the start of Act 4, Snake is treated to some authentic ''MGS1'' gameplay, with the guards still armed with their low-detail FAMAS-G1s as in the original. Note the screen border; this is authentic, and suggests this sequence is the actual PS1 code being run in emulation mode by the PS3.]]

==FN FAL==

The [[FN FAL]], labelled the FAL Carbine, is seen in the hands of the rebel forces in the Eastern Europe section of the game (Act 3). It can be purchased from Drebin like most other firearms in the game. Its battle rifle cartridge makes it more powerful shot-for-shot than the ingame assault rifles, and its low rate of fire combined with the long range of its round allows effective full-auto fire from a much longer range, but it can't be customised.

[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN FAL - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAL.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FN FAL on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having knocked out several Paradise Lost members, Snake brandishes a FAL he took from one and his Stun Knife, preparing to lay some CQC down.]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAL-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Paradise Lost group prepare to move out as Big Mama delivers a ridiculous speech about how first-person shooter games have trained her "children" to be soldiers. Good thing it's not third-person stealth games that did that.]]

==FN SCAR-H CQC==

The short-barrelled CQC variant of the [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H]], referred to under its SOCOM "Mk. 17" designation, is the standard battle rifle used by the PMC troops ingame. It can be found fairly early on in Act 1 (simply by killing, subduing, sedating, or disarming PMC troops) up to Act 3, and can be upgraded with various optics, an AN/PEQ-5 laser sight, a flashlight and one of two vertical foregrips; it cannot, however, mount either of the NATO underbarrel accessory weapons or a suppressor. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:2fff2537c0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H CQC - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk17.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The FN SCAR-H on the item menu. Note the fire selector is always on semi-auto.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SCAR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his SCAR-H.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SCAR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Praying Mantis PMC soldiers retreat as "Gekko" unmanned vehicles are called in to take their place.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SCAR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At the end of the first Act, Snake sneaks into the main base of the Praying Mantis PMC. Circumstances conspire to make this a slightly less bad idea than would normally be expected.]]

==Heckler & Koch G3A3==

The [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] is seen in the hands of the leftist insurgents in the South America section of the game (Act 2). It can also be purchased via Drebin like most other firearms in the game, but cannot be customised. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|HK G3A3 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Boatanchor.jpg|thumb|none|601px|G3A3 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-G3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake uses the ACOG sight of his SCAR-H to admire the trigger discipline of a rebel soldier with a G3A3.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM8 Carbine==

The [[Heckler & Koch XM8]] is used by the Rat Patrol and other US troops in game, curiously still called XM8 even though it has obviously been formally adopted by the US military in ''Metal Gear Solid 4's'' world. It can be found by the player in a secluded area in Act 2, but cannot be purchased from Drebin. The version seen in game has an early XM8 flash hider with the rest of the features of the later model. It comes with a built-in red dot sight and can be equipped with an XM320 grenade launcher, but no other accessories. Meryl's team each have different versions of the rifle, two of which are not available to the player; Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki uses the compact carbine configuration, Johnathan uses the standard one with a grenade launcher, and Ed has the designated marksman variant. The standard version of the XM8 is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:XM8.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:Xm8 rightmed.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Early Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm NATO. Note "duckbill" flash hider and lack of four oval PCAP holes.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SpaceshipM320.jpg|thumb|none|601px|XM8 with an XM320 grenade launcher fitted, on the item menu. Note it uses an early "duckbill" flash hider rather than the later model's "birdcage," but has the later version's PCAP accessory mounting holes in the handguard.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The XM8, as in real life, features a red dot optic as standard; here Snake uses it to take out one of the PMC soldiers guarding the power station.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the charging handle of his XM8 after a reload.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnathan has a lie down with his XM8 with XM320. This is what is technically known as a bad idea.]]
[[File:MGS4XM8-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US Army soldier tries to pull the trigger on his XM8, but the ID lock has been changed by Liquid Ocelot, rendering the weapon useless.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact Carbine==

The [[Heckler_%26_Koch_XM8#Heckler_.26_Koch_XM8_Compact_Carbine|Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact Carbine]], the shortest configuration of the XM8, is used by Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki, a member of Meryl Silverburgh's "Rat Patrol" FOXHound unit. While Heckler & Koch marketed this version as the "PDW" configuration, it fires a full-sized assault rifle round, therefore is classified here as a rifle. It is unavailable in singleplayer, but the Johnny Sasaki unique character in multiplayer can use it, and is the only player character in that mode who can select it at the beginning of a match or when respawning. In this mode, it retains the standard variation's red dot sight, but cannot be customised.

[[Image:XM8CC.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact Carbine with full stock - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8PDW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Old Snake:''' ''"You haven't even taken the safety off, rookie."'' '''Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki:''' ''"Careful, I'm no rookie! I'm a 10-year vet!"'' Johnny then bears out Snake's accusation by visually inspecting his weapon's safety rather than just flicking his thumb up and forward to ensure the safety is not still engaged or disengage it if it is.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8PDW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The result is fairly predictable, with Snake ambushing Johnny via CQC techniques before turning Johnny's weapon against him and his comrades. Note that since there's only one model for the weapon used in this cutscene, the safety is ''still'' on.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8PDW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny shows off the very "Future Force Warrior" look of the FOXHound unit's gear as he holds his XM8 Compact Carbine, including a backpack computer unit, a computer monitor integrated into his "shades," and a keyboard attached to his forearm. One very important piece of gear the Rat Patrol never wears, however, is a helmet.]]

==M4A1==

A customised [[M16_rifle_series#M4.2FM4A1_Carbine|M4A1]] is Solid Snake's assault rifle of choice and is given to him early in Act 1 by Drebin. In the first trailers, he instead steals it from a PMC soldier, and it is equipped with an EOTech 552 sight and a tan XM320 40mm grenade launcher. In the actual game, it can be equipped with an Aimpoint Comp M2 red dot sight, an ACOG scope, a Surefire tactical flashlight, a LDI OTAL (Offset Tactical Aiming Laser), a Knights Armament Company (KAC) or TangoDown vertical foregrip, a Remington 870 Masterkey underbarrel shotgun, a H&K XM320 grenade launcher and / or a KAC supressor. The sheer number of attachments, combined with excellent accuracy, low recoil and the abundance of 5.56mm ammo, makes this one of the best rifles available for a good bit into Act 3. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

The weapon itself is based on the M4A1 carbine with a 14.5" barrel, tan A2 pistol grip and tan LE 6-position buttstock. It is equipped as standard with Precision Reflex Industries (PRI) folding front and rear sights, a Troy Industries CQB flash hider ("CQC compatible") and a KAC RAS. Though the latter is supposed to be free-floating, it is incorrectly rendered with a standard M4A1 handguard cap.

Drebin makes a series of patently false claims about the M4A1 as shown; he tells Snake the barrel is free-floating ("of course") despite that the weapon's handguard has an end cap, and claims the weapon is "popular with the big PMCs" despite none ever using it, and claiming it is "the official carbine model used by US army" even though in the fiction the US Army is shown to have adopted the XM8. In early preview shots PMC soldiers were shown carrying M4A1s, but in the finished game they use SCAR-H CQC rifles.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M4A1 Carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4CMasterkey.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M4A1 on the item menu, fitted with a Masterkey accessory shotgun. Unusually for a videogame, mounting an optic will show the weapon with the sights folded down rather than removed entirely.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake is presented with the M4 by Drebin when they first meet as a gift to welcome him to the services of the Gun Launderer. Always one to look a possibly exploding horse in the mouth, Snake proceeds to thoroughly examine it. Note that despite Drebin's claim here, none of the PMCs use the M4 Custom at any point in the game.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake holds his M4 Custom, giving a good look at the rail handguard, flip-up sights and the high-detail magazine of the "hero" cutscene model.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After a minor diversion involving Snake's old nanomachines preventing the weapon firing (via a component he apparently didn't notice while stripping the weapon), Snake fires the M4 Custom.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the non-cutscene M4 reveals a distinct lack of bullets in the magazine.]]
[[File:MGS4M4Custom-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake prepares to squeeze off a shot a Vamp with his M4. Note that the fire selector is properly set to semi-auto, but in gameplay selector is always set to full-auto, even if the player selects a different firing mode.]]
[[File:MGS4M4Custom-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aiming his M4 at Vamp. Despite being right-handed, Snake does a pro job of setting up left-handed to remain behind cover, and makes good use of the wall for stability. Shortly thereafter he resumes his normal right-handed stance while turning the gun sideways, ejection port up, to fire at the PMCs guarding Vamp and Naomi.]]
[[Image:MGS4M4A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Old Snake wielding the M4A1 with an EOTech sight in early trailers; this accessory is not available in the final game.]]

=="Patriot"==

This custom full-auto-only AR-15-pattern carbine, seemingly based on an M231 Firing Port Weapon with the barrel significantly shortened so the whole weapon resembles a [[Rocky Mountain Arms Patriot Pistol]], is seen briefly at the end of the game. It can be unlocked by earning the Big Boss emblem after the end of the game or by a password. Its most notable trait is that it has unlimited ammo and never needs to be reloaded (the ingame reason is how its Beta-C magazine, misnamed in the previous game as the "feed mechanism," vaguely resembles the sideways-8 infinity symbol); it also plays part of the "Snake Eater" theme from ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' when aimed. It is classified as an SMG, despite firing an assault rifle round, which would in reality make it an ultracompact carbine. The Patriot cannot be customised ingame.

[[Image:Wm 1119951786543207.jpg|thumb|none|400px| The Rocky Mountain Arms M16-Style Pistol - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Patriot.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Patriot" on the item menu.]]
[[File:MGS4Patriot-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Patriot" being fired on the roof of Advent Palace.]]
[[File:MGS4Patriot-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Boss drops his "Patriot" in front of Snake.]]

=Sniper Rifles / Designated Marksman Rifles=

==Barrett M82A2==

The [[Barrett_M82#Barrett_M82A2|M82A2]] can be purchased from Drebin, is Hideo Kojima's personal favourite, and is used the US military forces in Act 3 and later by Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki during Act 5, a curious weapon choice when it is clear that a weapon capable of extended automatic fire would be much better suited to the particular environment he's literally being thrown into. It is also exclusively available to the Akiba special character in multiplayer.

[[Image:Barrettm82a2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Barrett M82A2 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Barrett M82A2 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US soldier aims a Barrett M82A2 at Liquid's boat from the side door of a helicopter during Act 3.]]
[[File:MGS4M82A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another US soldier aims his Barrett M82A2 off the pier.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He is one of many, many, many soldiers and Marines aiming at said boat. Strangely, most of them aim straight forward even though the boat is ''below'' the bridge they're standing on.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At the start of the final Act, Johnny Sasaki holds his M82A2 as he prepares to launch onto Outer Haven using the giant man-catapult which Drebin owns for some inexplicable reason.]]
[[File:MGS4M82A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny aims his Barrett M82A2 at FROG soldiers onboard Outer Haven.]]
[[File:MGS4M82A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny fires his M82A2 at the FROGs.]]

==DSR-1==

The [[DSR-1]], a bolt-action sniper rifle in a bullpup layout, is used by FROG snipers and can be bought from Drebin; doing so is rather pointless, however, since Old Snake is automatically given an unlocked DSR-1 at the end of Act 2, after he uses it in a cutscene to free Raiden from Vamp's clutches. The weapon is loud and features a fairly slow bolt-action; this along with a lack of customisation options places it distinctly behind the Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR and VSS in terms of versatility. The ingame calibre is specified to be 7.62x67mm, making it .300 Winchester Magnum. It is used by a few PMC and FROG snipers, the latter resulting in one of the game's more memorably unrealistic scenes in Act 3. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:Dsr1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|DSR-Precision GmbH DSR-1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR.jpg|thumb|none|601px|DSR-1 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the bolt of his DSR-1.]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the motorcycle escape sequence in the third Act, the game uses a "cinematic" camera any time Snake isn't aiming; at one point, a FROG sniper is seen firing her DSR-1 from a distant building. Note the FROGs place the scope against the side of their head rather than lining it up with their eyes; in addition, in this scene the DSR-1 ejects a spent casing immediately, without the bolt being operated.]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Mama reels from the FROG sniper's bullet. As noted above, if the player was using their weapon they will have no idea why this actually happened. Which is probably for the best...]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...Since apparently Big Mama isn't up on the whole thing where being shot with a .300 Win Mag is supposed to actually harm you in some way.]]

==Heckler & Koch PSG-1==

While not usable in the game, the "press X" flashback after defeating Crying Wolf shows Sniper Wolf's death scene in the original game, with the defeated sniper holding her signature [[Heckler_%26_Koch_G3#Heckler_.26_Koch_PSG-1|Heckler & Koch PSG-1]].

[[Image:H&KPSG01.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSG1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sadly, the static and blur filters thrown over these flashback images mean this is the only frame of Wolf's PSG-1 where the barrel isn't distorted.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM8 Sharpshooter==

A [[Heckler_%26_Koch_XM8#Heckler_.26_Koch_XM8_Sharpshooter_Rifle|Heckler & Koch XM8 Sharpshooter Rifle]] is used by the character "Ed," a member of Meryl Silverburgh's "Rat Patrol" FOXHound unit. It is never available to the player.

[[Image:XM8sharp.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch XM8 Sharpshooter Rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8Sharp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ed checks over his XM8 Sharpshooter. Note Ed's weapon is fitted with the same Insight ISM-V scope as the other members of his unit, rather than the x4 magnifying scope the Sharpshooter variant is supposed to use.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8Sharp-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl, Ed and Johnathan demonstrate the capabilities of the "System" by taking down three FROG soldiers in perfect unison, using their shared senses.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8Sharp-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hearing a mysterious sound coming from all around, Ed and Johnathan apprehensively aim their weapons at particularly scary-looking parts of a derelict building.]]

== Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle ==

The [[M14_Rifle#Mk_14_Mod_0_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle|Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle ]] (Referred to incorrectly as the "M14EBR") is a modern variant of the [[M14 Rifle]]. It is used by PMC marksmen in-game and can be purchased from Drebin. It has semiautomatic and fully automatic rates of fire and can be equipped with a suppressor, laser sight, and flashlight. Its fully automatic fire mode makes it very useful even in short range combat, and the fact that it's available early on, combined with its extensive list of modifications, makes it one of the best guns in the game. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR with a Harris bipod and vertical RIS foregrip - 7.62x51 NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"M14 EBR" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the first Act, rebel soldiers are shown trying to storm an urban area guarded by a PMC fireteam, including sniper / spotter teams; the snipers are armed with Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifles.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A second sniper team, with the marksman also armed with a Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR.]]

==Mosin Nagant Sniper==

A modified [[Mosin Nagant]] sniper rifle with a paratrooper stock and pistol grip can be purchased from Drebin in-game. It is the same rifle used by The End in MGS3 and is modified to only fire tranquilizer darts, though in this game this also includes fictional "Emotion" darts which cause targets to experience one of the game's four psychological states (Cry, Rage, Laugh or Scream). This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:MosinNagantM9130Sniper.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mosin Nagant M91/30 Sniper Rifle - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mosin.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Custom Mosin-Nagant on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mosin-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake shows off The End's Mosin Nagant, which Drebin acquired somehow.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mosin-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the bolt of his Mosin Nagant, correctly shown as the turned-down bolt handle of a sniper version.]]

==SVD Dragunov-S==

The SVD Dragunov-S, a modernised, shortened version of the [[SVD Dragunov]] intended for paratroop use is seen in the hands of militiamen and rebel snipers in Acts 1 and 2. The weapon cannot be customised or mount any kind of suppressor, but the ammunition is relatively cheap and the weapon a semi-automatic rather than bolt-action, making it a middle-of-the-road weapon. The scope features an error: the number in the stadiametric rangefinder indicating the height of the reference target is "10" rather than the correct "1.7;" either that or in Snake's world shooting at 32-foot tall monsters is more important than shooting at infantry. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:SVD-S-Rifle.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Dragunov-S shortened sniper rifle intended for paratroopers - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SVD on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nobody had expected Snake to disguise himself as Venom.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As ever, Snake can't stand the idea of having a round lazing around in the chamber of one of his long guns after going to all the effort of reloading it, so gives the charging handle a yank to send it on its way.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As with the other sniper weapons, the SVD's scope has two zoom levels, the reticle slightly altering to take account of this. This is low-power...]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...And this is high. Note the windage / lead marks have changed.]]

==VSS Vintorez==

The [[VSS Vintorez]] appears in the game, and can only be found in a room in Act 2; it cannot be bought from Drebin at any point in the game. It has an integral (non-degradable) suppressor, and like the M14EBR is capable of fully-automatic fire, though its shallower 10-round magazine can become a liability in close-range firefights. Since it uses the same reticle model, it duplicates the Dragunov's error of showing the reference height for the target as 10 metres instead of 1.7 metres. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is capable of firing tranquilizer rounds in multiplayer only.

[[Image:Vss1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|VSS Vintorez with PSO-1 scope - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|VSS on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Out and about in Millennium Park, Snake aims his VSS Vintorez.]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake uses the scope of his VSS to help out his friend. "Well, that's a load off my mind. Thanks, Snake!"]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the VSS.]]

=Machine Guns=

As was the case in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'' with the [[Stoner 63]], player characters firing machine guns continuously will yell in classic ''"[[Rambo]]"'' tradition. Weapons in this category all have a strange ammunition display quirk; the ammunition bar only shows fifty rounds, with every tenth round marked white. This will scroll as the gun is fired and only count down when 49 or fewer rounds are left on the belt.

==Heckler & Koch HK21E==

The [[Heckler_%26_Koch_HK_series_machine_guns#Heckler_.26_Koch_HK21|Heckler & Koch HK21E]] is seen in the hands of a rebel militiaman in the early portion of the Middle East section of the game (Act 1). In a conversation that can be overheard if the player remains hidden or has earned the trust of the rebels, he claims that it is an enemy gun, yet strangely none of the PMC troopers in the level are seen using it. The rebel militiaman also refers to it as "the very latest model", when in actuality the weapon was designed in the 1980s, some 30 years before the events of the game take place. It can be stolen in this location, or can be purchased via Drebin like most other firearms.

[[Image:HK21E.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK21E - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-HK21E.jpg|thumb|none|601px|HK21E on the item menu. Note that it has the 5-vent handguard of a regular HK21 and a shortened barrel like that of an HK11 or HK23.]]
[[Image:MGS4-HK21E-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel soldier brags about his "laundered" HK21E, ignoring several rules of firearm safety by waving it at his friend, even if his finger isn't on the trigger.]]
[[Image:MGS4-HK21E-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads an HK21E as a FROG trooper self-incinerates nearby. It's never particularly clear why they do this, so it's probably nanomachines. Note that the belt of the old drum vanishes just as Snake detaches it; this is the new drum being put in place.]]

==Kalashnikov PKM==

The [[PK Machine Gun]] is seen in the hands of militia and rebels in Act 2. at the time this is obtained, this gun is a good 40-50% more powerful at close range than any other automatic weapon. However, ammo is uncommon and expensive and it can't be customised.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKM with classic (most seen) version of the flash hider - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM.jpg|thumb|none|601px|PKM on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake opens up on Pieuvre Armement PMC soldiers with his PKM, angered at the PMC's name being so hard to spell.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|His fury abated, it's time to reload.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The rebel soldier thankfully realizes that Snake pointing a SCAR-H at his groin is just the old man's way of saying good morning.]]

==M60E4==

The [[M60 machine gun|M60E4]] is used by the PMC operatives in game. It can be equipped with optics, foregrips, laser sight, and flashlight. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is the only weapon of its type in that mode.

[[Image:M60E4-mk43.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60E4 Mk.43 with Picatinny rails, RIS foregrip, and ammo belt - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M60E4 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sights up a Pieuvre Armement PMC soldier armed with an M60E4.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake revisits Shadow Moses, bringing a touch more firepower this time.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having foolishly alerted the million billion Dwarf Gekko which have apparently colonized the Tank Hangar, Snake does the only reasonable thing, whipping out his M60E4 and getting started making a big pile of scrap metal.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Werewolf PMC appears to be trying to deploy more Dwarf Gekko drones than a potential enemy has bullets.]]

==Mk. 46 Mod. 0==

The [[FN_Minimi#Mk_46_Mod_0|Mk. 46 Mod. 0]] can be purchased from Drebin; it is mislabelled as a Mod 1, but has the 12 o'clock rail on the handguard that is not present on the Mod 1. It features the same customisation as the M60, but it's much lighter and fires the less powerful 5.56x45mm cartridge.

[[Image:Mk46.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk. 46 Mod. 0 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk46.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Mk. 46 Mod.1" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk46-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake starts to reload the Mk. 46 by pulling back the charging handle, giving a good view of the 12 o'clock rail on the handguard; this shows the weapon is actually a Mod 0. Despite its inclusion, there is no accessory that can be mounted on this rail.]]
[[File:MGS4Mk46Mod0-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake unloads his Mk. 46 on PMCs while atop Drebin's Stryker.]]
[[File:MGS4Mk46Mod0-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Mk. 46 in the hallway at Shadow Moses where the Cyborg Ninja's infamous massacre took place.]]

=Launchers=

==FGM-148 Javelin==

The [[FGM-148 Javelin]] is found in Act 1 and can be purchased from Drebin. It is erroneously shown as a SACLOS device requiring full-course guidance by the operator, with Snake discarding the entire launcher including the CLU after every shot and pulling out a fresh Javelin from more or less nowhere; it also cannot be used in top-attack mode by the player. Most of the time it is used by NPCs it is seen being used in an incorrect direct-fire mode; in real life, even shots fired in this mode start their flight with a rapid climb, while in game the missile flies straight forwards. The only time it is shown firing correctly is during Act 1, when a group of hidden PMC soldiers will fire missiles in top-attack mode to destroy a rebel BMP-3 IFV if the player protects it for long enough.

It is never at all clear ''why'' it operates the way it does; presumably, the lack of lock-on capability is to separate the weapon functionally from the Stinger, and the SACLOS guidance intended to be reminiscent of ''MGS1'' and ''MGS2's'' fly-by-wire "Nikita" missile launcher, but this doesn't really explain why the resulting mechanics were given to a Javelin launcher rather than a fictional ATGM system.

[[Image:Javalin.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FGM-148 Javelin - 127mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FGM-148 Javelin on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake moves into position with a Javelin during the second Act, preparing to provide the rebels with a touch more firepower.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sighting up a PMC Stryker through the scope of the Javelin. In theory, it's possible to top-attack by guiding the round up and then down, but this offers no meaningful advantage over direct fire.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With the Stryker destroyed, Snake reloads by throwing the entire launcher away and pulling another one out of thin air. Apparently it doesn't occur to him to re-use the $80,000 Command Launch Unit. Note that Snake can carry up to ''fifty'' complete launchers; this means his invisible backpack has a carrying capacity exceeding one ton.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sights up a PMC Javelin operator during the first Act. With due diligence, it's possible to escort the mildly suicidal BMP-3 past every launcher...]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...Whereupon a hidden Praying Mantis soldier suddenly remembers how the Javelin actually works.]]

==FIM-92 Stinger==

The [[FIM-92A Stinger]] can be purchased from Drebin, and is also found in the back of the truck in the Nuclear Warhead Storage Building, Floor 1, in Act 4. Unlike previous games where it was reloaded in a completely unspecified manner, in ''MGS4'' Snake will discard the launcher after firing and pull another one from thin air. As per series norms, the Stinger is incorrectly shown as a strange all-purpose missile, able to lock on to aircraft, ground vehicles, and even infantry.

[[Image:-0976t.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIM-92A Stinger - 70mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FIM-92A Stinger on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With a determined look on his face, Snake clutches a Stinger as he advances on the Confinement Facility. As with the Javelin, being old apparently doesn't stop him lugging two thousand pounds of Stingers around.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake readies a Stinger as his previous one fails to take down a PMC helicopter. Reloading before impact broke the previous round's lock-on, leaving it to fly off aimlessly.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The helicopter is not nearly as lucky the second time around.]]

==GP-30==

The [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-30 grenade launcher]] can be attached to the AK-102 and AN-94. It can be found in the Advent Palace Hotel in Act 1, in a secret room at the start of Act 2, or bought from Drebin. It can be used in multiplayer on the AK-102 if Drebin Points are enabled. The GP-30 correctly does not share ammunition with the other 40mm grenade launchers (as it uses caseless VOG-25 grenades, which are incompatible with 40mm NATO grenade launchers); in game, it can only use high explosive rounds.

[[Image:Gp-30 ak-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GP-30 grenade launcher mounted on AK-74 - 40mm & 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102.jpg|thumb|none|601px|AK-102 on the item menu, fitted with a GP-30 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GP30-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads the GP-30 mounted under his AN-94 assault rifle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GP30.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake finds a GP-30 in the Advent Palace Hotel. As noted previously, this "Custom Parts" box item is used to represent any accessory weapon or weapon accessory.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM25 Mock-Up==

An early mock-up of the [[Heckler & Koch XM25]] made for demonstration purposes is shown in game as the actual weapon. A semi-automatic grenade launcher chambered in 25mm, it fires airbursting HEAB (High Explosive Air Bursting) rounds, which function rather like the PK rockets in ''Battlefield 2142''; while the weapon is held normally they are simply impact detonated, but scoping shows a display with an always-on rangefinder. Pressing up or down on the D-pad freezes at the currently displayed range, with further presses adjusting the detonation distance up or down. It can be found on the catwalk of one of the control towers in Act 4, and is the only heavy weapon usable during the motorcycle chase in Act 3.

[[Image:Xm25 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM25 mock-up - 25 x 40mm. This is a non-firing demonstrator which looks substantially different to the final version.]]
[[Image:ATKXM25.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Final XM25 for comparison - 25 x 40mm. The version in ''MGS4'' was clearly based on the former.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25.jpg|thumb|none|601px|XM25 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires his XM25 in over-shoulder mode; fired like this, the grenades are impact detonation only.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Using the scope, on the other hand, allows the HEAB rounds to be used properly. The two range figures to the right are the range to the object currently being aimed at (white) and the current detonation distance (red). It fires in impact mode until the D-pad is touched to fix and then alter the range. The launcher "forgets" the set range if Snake stops aiming down the sight.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his XM25 as he tries to ignore what Johnny Sasaki is currently doing nearby.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM320==

A mixture of the early version and later version of the [[Heckler & Koch M320|Heckler & Koch XM320]] grenade launcher is the underbarrel launcher for the M4 Custom and XM8 rifle; it lacks the MP7-style folding front grip added to the production M320 and has the early style trigger guard, therefore is correctly labelled in the game, even if it makes little sense in-universe for it to still have an XM- designation. It can be purchased from Drebin, and is also carried by some PMC members in stand-alone form in the South America portion of the game; it cannot be used by the player in this form. The XM320 has four ammo types; it can fire HE rounds, white phosphorous, stun grenades and smoke rounds. The attachment is also available in multiplayer.

[[Image:XM320.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM320 - 40x46mm. Note lack of a front grip, added only to the production M320. The version in-game uses an earlier version of the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SpaceshipM320.jpg|thumb|none|601px|XM320 grenade launcher mounted to an XM8 rifle on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M320-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Assaulted by Pieuvre Armement PMC soldiers, Snake loads a white phosphorous round into the XM320 mounted to his XM8.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M320-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He stops being assaulted immediately afterward.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M320-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Later, he encounters two more PMC soldiers defending the Confinement Facility with their standalone XM320s. Thankfully, PMC soldiers can only use high explosive rounds in their launchers.]]

==M72A3 LAW==

The [[M72 LAW]] is used by a small number of rebels in Act 2.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW - 66mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M72A3 LAW on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake comes across a rebel soldier with his M72 at the ready during the game's second Act.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Taking aim down the sights of an M72A3 LAW. Or rather, the sight; the weapon is incorrectly shown with the player's point of view in front of Snake's right hand, using only the front sight with the rear one not visible. To actually do this, Snake would have to be reaching back over his own shoulder with his right hand.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake discards a spent LAW and extends another; the ground model is actually a closed tube, meaning the tube instantly collapses as it leaves Snake's hands.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As Drebin moves to give Snake a shot of suppressor Nanomachines to let him use non-ID guns, two low-detail LAWs are visible in the weapon rack of his Stryker. These are low-detail because they are part of the Stryker model itself rather than copies of the normal in-world model.]]

==MGL-140==

The [[Milkor MGL]] appears as the "MGL-140," it is used by Raging Raven and is acquired by Solid Snake upon defeating her. It shares the ammunition reserve of the XM320, and can use the same four ammunition types: HE fragmentation, white phosphorous, "flashbang" stun rounds and smoke rounds.

[[Image:MGL32.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M32 MGL in desert tan finish fitted with Armson OEG reflex sight - 40mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MGL-140 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raging Raven flies overhead during the introduction of the B&B Corps in the first Act, showing off her MGL-140 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Later, in the third Act, the MGL gets a closeup as Raven fires a grenade at the van Snake and Big Mama are escorting.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Finally getting her boss fight in Act 3, Raven has her pre-battle speech...]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...During which, for reasons known only to himself, Snake doesn't shoot her. Perhaps he's marvelling at how this isn't even the weirdest thing that's happened to him ''today''.]]
[[File:MGS4MilkorMGL-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake collects Raven's MGL-140 after defeating her.]]

==RPG-7==

The [[RPG-7]] is used by the rebels in the first Act, and a large number of unlocked RPG-7s are present throughout the first stage, seemingly primarily to give the player some quick Drebin Points due to their high trade-in value. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is the only one of its type in that mode.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG.jpg|thumb|601px|none|RPG-7 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel aims his RPG-7 during ''MGS4's'' first Act.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires on a Stryker using the PGO-7 scope of his RPG-7; the illuminated red dot at the aim point is obscured here by the flare of the rocket's sustainer motor.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake starts to reload his RPG-7, showing off the PGO-7 scope.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake finds a box of RPG-7 ammunition lurking around in the rebel base in Act 1. This is the generic pickup item used for all rocket launcher ammunition.]]

=Thrown / Placed=

==Airsoft gas charger grenade==

A grenade with a thin, smooth cylindrical body is used as the model for both the "flashbang" stun grenades and the game's fictional electronic warfare "chaff" grenades. This appears to be based on a grenade-shaped gas bottle for Airsoft guns, such as the one shown below. Stun grenades can be found throughout the game or bought from Drebin, and stun all enemies within a fixed radius who can see them while also causing an instant alert if there wasn't one already. The Chaff Grenade is treated as a "secret" weapon; only a handful can be found during the entire game, usually in out-of-the-way places, and Drebin never sells them; they are basically a short-duration EMP-like effect rather flimsily explained as strips of metal which are spread throughout the entire current area via magic. Using one temporarily disables security cameras, alarms and enemy radios, and temporarily paralyses any drone vehicles present. This lasts until the magic fades and all the strips of metal return to wherever they came from in the first place.

[[Image:DAM116A101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|EAIMING "M116A1 Distraction Device Grenade," an Airsoft gun gas charger built to resemble a hand grenade. "M116A1" is actually the US army's code for a simulation hand grenade with a paper body, used in training.]]
[[Image:MGS4-StunG.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Stun grenade" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-ChaffG.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Chaff grenade" on the item menu. M363 is actually an obsolete anti-infantry canister round developed for the 76mm guns of the M4 Sherman and M41 Walker Bulldog tanks.]]
[[Image:MGS4-StunG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After FROG soldiers knock a hole into the Advent Palace Hotel's bathroom, they toss a stun grenade inside, visible next to Meryl's head. The explosion, if looked at, turns the screen completely white; this can be simulated by looking to the right of this image.]]

==M112 C4 Demolition Charge==

Remote-detonated C4 charges are available during the game, and can be placed on the ground or objects and then detonated in the order they were originally placed. Precisely what attaches them to surfaces is not clear; the charges can be fixed to non-magnetic surfaces, and lack any obvious adhesive.

[[Image:M112.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M112 demolition charge]]
[[Image:MGS4-C4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"C4" on the item menu.]]

==M18 Smoke Grenade==

The [[M18 smoke grenade]] is usable in the game, in a default white version and four special "Emotion" versions which produce coloured smoke which affects the emotions of enemies caught in it; Blue for Cry, Red for Rage, Yellow for Laugh, and Green for Scream. The M18 is also the basis for the "fat" versions of the Stun and Chaff grenade seen in the ''MGS1'' nightmare sequence.

[[Image:M18red.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M18 smoke grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M18 smoke grenade on the item menu. This grenade produces white smoke.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18-Emot.jpg|thumb|none|601px|One of the four coloured "emotion" smoke grenades available after completing the game once. This is the yellow "Laugh" grenade.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Faced with the rebel BMP-3 in the first Act, the Praying Mantis PMC soldiers decide that discretion is the better part of valour, one throwing an M18 smoke grenade to cover their retreat.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the Act 4 ''MGS1'' nightmare, Snake is surprised at finding a security camera in a top-secret base as he brandishes a "Chaff Grenade" based on an M18. Due to PS1-era graphical limitations, the grenade is bigger than his head.]]

==M18A1 Claymore==

The [[M18A1 Claymore]] mine is used as a trap in several locations throughout the game; as usual in the series, the mines use a proximity detonator rather than the real weapon's tripwire, although they lack the optical camouflage seen in the first two games which made them invisible.

[[Image:M18a1 07.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel mine]]
[[Image:MGS4-Claymore.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M18A1 Claymore on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Claymore-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake spots a Claymore in the lobby of the Advent Palace Hotel, deciding that practical jokes by the staff must have really got out of hand.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Claymore-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luckily ''MGS'' series standards still apply, and Claymores are apparently both extremely hot for no readily determined reason and can be stolen by crawling over them.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==

The [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] is available to the player only, and creates a burning cloud of white phosphorous which ignites enemies on contact.

[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|200px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-WP.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-WP-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake looks down the iron sight of his MP5SD2 at a case of WP grenades; this is the generic pickup model used by every type of grenade in the game.]]

==M67 Hand Grenade==

The [[M67 hand grenade]] is used by most enemies in the game and can be used by the player; it is also part of the armament of the "Gekko" bipedal IFVs, which can throw grenades using their manipulator tentacles. As with the Stun and Chaff grenades, it seems the in-game model was actually based on an Airsoft gas charger bottle; the shape of the grenade body is distinctly incorrect for a real M67 but matches several gas charger models.

[[Image:Baseball.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M67 hand grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-M67.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M67 hand grenade on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M67-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Drebin shows off a magic trick he presumably uses at ''really'' dull parties.]]
[[File:MGS4Grenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A better shot of the M67. Note the unsplit pin, another clue that the grenade was not modelled from a real grenade.]]

==Magazine==

A 30-round STANAG 5.56x45mm magazine can be thrown to distract enemies. One magazine is added to the stock every time a weapon's magazine is fully depleted; regardless of the weapon, it will always be shown as this type when thrown. Unlike ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', the reloading animation correctly shows Snake retaining the old mag during the reload rather than discarding it and then having it in his inventory anyway.

[[Image:MGS4-Magazine.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Magazine on the item menu.]]

==Mk 2 Hand Grenade==

During the PMC commercials before the game proper begins, two live-action combatants are seen duelling in mid-air as the camera sweeps around them. As they move close, the one in white reaches down to produce a [[Mk 2 hand grenade]], with another attached to her belt. Mk 2 grenades are also used by Genome Soldiers in the ''MGS1'' nightmare sequence if Snake enters a vent during an alert.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mk 2 hand grenade|Mk 2 "Pineapple" high-explosive fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the PMC commercial, one of the fighting-or-something women produces a Mk 2 grenade from her belt.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grey object visible above the Genome Soldier's left hand is the fuze of a Mk 2 grenade. Since the ''MGS1'' soldiers always have a rifle in their right hand, they are shown pulling the pins with their mouth; apparently Big Boss' superior soldier genes include some for superior soldier teeth.]]

==Molotov cocktail==

Molotov cocktails, referred to as "Petro Bomb" in game, are used in place of grenades by rebel soldiers in the first two Acts, and can be picked up by Snake, functioning as less effective versions of the WP grenade which ignite on impact.

[[Image:MGS4-Molotov.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Petro Bomb" on the item menu.]]

==Valmera 69==

An Italian Valmera 69 bounding anti-personnel mine is featured as the "S.G. Mine," with SG presumably standing for "Sleep Gas." These contact-triggered mines instantly knock out anyone who triggers them, including Snake himself, though they can be triggered with gunfire or defused by crawling over them or picking them up with Metal Gear Mk. 2. Some are found in the Advent Palace hotel in the first Act.

[[Image:130705-004-42B40A6D.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Italian Valmera 69 land mine (centre).]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"S.G. Mine" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apparently showing up as hot on thermal isn't enough for these mines, which are also concealed through clever application of a bright blue body and a big silly light on the top.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the unlikely case that Snake manages to trigger one, the entire mine jumps into the air; this is incorrect, as the Valmera, like most bounding mines, has an outer body containing the bounding body and propelling charge; only the bounding body should jump into the air.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake does not have time to consider this, due to the loss of his entire Psyche gauge and the resultant urgent need for a nap.]]

=="S.G. Satchel"==

The "S.G. Satchel" is a manually triggered gas bomb which Snake can place as a trap. It appears to be loosely based on a blast-resistant anti-tank mine such as the Italian VS-3.6 anti-tank mine; the ridges on the device's body are typical of such mines.

[[Image:Vs-3.6anti-tankmine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|VIS-3.6 anti-tank mine.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Satchel.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"S.G. Satchel" on the item menu.]]

=Mounted Weaponry=

==BGM-71 TOW==

The bipedal "Gekko" unmanned weapons are sometimes equipped with a launch unit for two [[BGM-71 TOW]] missiles on one of their weapon mounting points. These weapons are never usable by the player.

[[Image:Tow 07.jpg|thumb|none|400px|BGM-71 TOW mounted on M220 tripod - 152mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-TOW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake is ambushed by a "Gekko" unmanned vehicle crashing through a wall, equipped with an M2 Browning heavy machine gun and twin TOW launch tubes.]]
[[Image:MGS-TOW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After Snake successfully evades the easily-fooled Gekko, they are called away.]]

==Browning M2HB==

The [[M2HB]] is mounted on Stryker APC and MGS variants and HMMWVs in game, and is also the principle dorsal armament of the Gekko bipedal IFVs. They can also occasionally be found mounted in fixed emplacements.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Praying Mantis PMC's "Gekko" unmanned vehicles, armed with a Protector M151 Remote Weapon Station and twin BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missiles. The Gekko also mounts a lighter machine gun in the "beak," but this is completely concealed by armour and impossible to identify.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Strykers in ''MGS4'' also mount the Protector M151 Remote Weapon Station, equipped with an M2 Browning heavy machine gun.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Pieuvre Armement PMC Stryker is seen at the start of the second Act.]]
[[File:MGS4M2HB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake mans a Browning M2HB on top of Drebins Stryker at the end of Act 2.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the third Act, the Raven Sword PMC makes extensive use of HMMWV ("Humvee") light trucks armed with Browning M2 heavy machine guns. While the Young Snake disguise won't get Snake by these, apparently Colonel Campbell is allowed out and about after curfew.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The combined US Army / Marine taskforce sent to deal with Liquid Ocelot on the Volta in Act 3 turn up in force, including a number of Mark V Special Operations Craft, each armed with four M2 heavy machine guns mounted on the sides of the rear deck.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Liquid Ocelot's boat in Act 3 is a Swedish-designed Combat Boat 90 modified to mount a turret with what appear to be a pair of tank cannons. More normal for the class are the twin M2 Browning heavy machine guns mounted in a compartment forward of the helmsman's position, and visible here behind the FROG soldier on the left.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun cameras on Shadow Moses in Act 4 are based on the M2, with a shortened barrel and a rather undersized drum.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sneaks up on a mounted M2 Browning during the game's second Act. Knowing Snake's stealthy ways, it will later find it has much less ammo and is pointed in a different direction, and will never figure out why.]]
[[File:MGS4M2HB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2 Browning mounted on Drebin's Stryker.]]

==General Electric M134 Minigun==

During the second Act, soldiers of the Pieuvre Armement PMC are seen wearing suits of powered armour equipped with [[GE M134]] miniguns on their right arms.

[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two power suits are visible at the top of the shot, both with arm-mounted miniguns.]]

==General Electric M61A1 Vulcan==

Secondary armament of Metal Gears Rex and Ray is a pair of [[M61 Vulcan]] 20mm rotary guns; Ray mounts them on the tips of the two wing-like underwater propulsion units on its shoulders, while Rex mounts them under the projections either side of the pilot's "beak." While the latter is claimed to be 30mm by the game, Metal Gear Rex has not changed size since Otacon called them "Vulcan cannons" in ''MGS1'' and the weapons are not large enough to be GAU-8s. The battleship USS ''Missouri'' also mounts M61 vulcans in her Phalanx CIWS installations.

[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg|thumb|none|400px|General Electric / General Dynamics M61 Vulcan - 20mm.]]
[[Image:Phalanx.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GE M61 Vulcan in a Phalanx mounting - 20mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The damaged cover of Metal Gear Rex's left-hand gun shows it to be a six-barrelled M61 Vulcan, despite the game labelling it as a much larger seven-barrelled 30mm GAU-8.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As in ''MGS2'', Metal Gear Ray's Vulcans are mounted at the tips of the two propulsor "wings," forcing the vehicle to position itself incredibly awkwardly to fire. Here, Ray opens fire on Metal Gear Rex in the finale of the fourth Act.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the final Act, Snake's base of operations becomes the USS ''Missouri'', which is recreated in loving detail and the subject of many dramatic shots. Here, a shot of the ''Missouri's'' flank as she approaches the submarine arsenal ship ''Outer Haven'' shows off her Mark 12 5-inch/38 calibre dual-purpose guns, angled RGM-84 Harpoon launch tubes and two of the M61A1 Vulcan cannons in Phalanx installations on her superstructure.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As Outer Haven launches a volley of Harpoon anti-ship missiles at the USS ''Missouri'', "Mighty Mo" responds with her dual-purpose guns and Phalanx installations.]]

== Kalashnikov PKT ==

During the first Act, the rebels assault Praying Mantis PMC positions with a Russian BMP-3 IFV. The BMP-3 is the world's most heavily armed IFV, packing in a 2A70 100mm low velocity gun / missile launcher, a coaxial 2A72 30mm autocannon, six 81mm 902V "Tucha" smoke grenade launchers and three [[PK Machine Gun|PKT machine guns]], one coaxial and two bow-mounted.

[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun with 250-round ammo drum - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:MGS4-BMP3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The rebel BMP makes a grand entrance, firing off its bow-mounted PKT machine guns.]]
[[Image:MGS4-BMP3-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|If Snake has been nice to the rebels, this is a happy sight; if not, it may be time to be ''really'' stealthy.]]

==M224 Mortar==

During the first two Acts, a number of [[M224 Mortar]]s set up by rebel forces can be found and used by the player; these are aimed with a HUD indicator showing the round's trajectory, ending in an area-of-effect circle at the point of detonation. They have infinite ammunition.

[[Image:M224-60mm-mortar.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M224 Mortar - 60mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mortar.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake discovers the hard way that the mortar wasn't designed to be used as a pillow.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mortar-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vowing to never speak of his bad sleeping experience again, Snake decides to dispose of any witnesses, dropping a 60mm round into his M224 mortar after sighting up a hapless PMC soldier manning an M2 Browning.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mortar-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake admires his handiwork and shows off his amazingly flexible definition of "sneaking mission."]]

==M230 Chaingun==

PMC hybrid helicopters based on the Boeing X-50 Dragonfly aircraft / helicopter concept are armed with a chin-mounted [[M230 Chain Gun]].

[[Image:Hughes-M230-Chain-Gun3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hughes/Alliant Techsystems M230 Chain Gun - 30mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M230-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PMC attack helicopter comes in to support Praying Mantis troops during the first level, showing off its chin-mounted M230. While these helicopters appear many times during the game, they never receive a name.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M230.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sights up a PMC attack helicopter with his VSS Vintorez as it fires its chaingun at rebels nearby. This is unlikely to end well for him.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M230-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the PMC hybrid helicopters in "jet" mode. They are never encountered like this during gameplay, only during the early cutscenes of Act 1. It's worth noting that the real X-50 Dragonfly program was axed due to "inherent design flaws," with neither prototype ever successfully transitioning from rotary-wing to fixed-wing flight.]]

==M240C==

The [[FN_MAG#M240_Machine_Gun|M240C]] is seen mounted coaxially on the remaining Abrams tank in Shadow Moses Island's tank hangar.

[[Image:M240C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M240C vehicle coaxial-mount version - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M240C.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake admires the remaining Abrams in the tank hangar, standing under the M256 120mm L/44 main gun. Note the CIS mounted on top of the turret right of the commander's Browning M2; apparently the magical elves which have been maintaining Metal Gear Rex since the island was abandoned took time out to update ''MGS1's'' M1A1 to A2 standard.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M240C-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view from the upper walkway of the tank hangar. ''MGS4'' doesn't take sides on whether the Abrams in the first game had two Browning M2s as in ''Metal Gear Solid'' or an M2 and an M240D as in ''Twin Snakes''; the remaining tank in the hangar has no loader's weapon at all.]]

== Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B ==

Liquid Snake's crashed Hind-D can be found in the snowfield around the Comm Towers in Act 4, with the chin-mounted [[Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B]] gatling gun buried in the snow. Other Hinds can be seen in the PMC advertisements at the very beginning of the game; at least one of those seen, however, is a Hind-A which would have a different, single-barrel chin gun.

[[Image:Yakb.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B machine gun - 12.7mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Hind-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake finds the crashed Hind-D in a corner of the snowfield. "Bad dog! What did Snake tell you about destroying the helicopter?"]]
[[Image:MGS4-Hind-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During one of the introduction's confusing PMC commercials, an Mi-24 Hind-A is briefly visible circling two people in vaguely Middle-Eastern dress; it can be identified as such by the early "greenhouse" side-by-side cockpit rather than the later twin bubble canopy. This means it would mount a single-barrel gun rather than a Yak-B; it is included here for the sake of noting this.]]

=Other=

=="Rail Gun"==

The fictional handheld railgun used by Fortune in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty|MGS2]]'' returns in ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' attached to the quadrupedal armour of B&B Corps member Crying Wolf; the weapon is mounted to the "Beast" armour's shoulder, and can only be used when the cockpit is open. Following the battle, the railgun is made available to the player for free; it features a 3-step charge up activated by aiming the weapon and a digital scope with a charge level indicator. The gun no longer has the issues with runaway firing described in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', where it was stated the project was cancelled for this reason and only Fortune with her "good luck" could use it effectively. Despite the railgun being roughly the size of a motorcycle, it apparently still somehow fits inside the foot-tall Metal Gear Mk. 2.

The railgun itself seems to have been created using either the same wooden motion capture prop as the one used for ''Metal Gear Solid 2's'' MoCap work or a reproduction of it; the design incorporates elements of a number of experimental and prototype high-tech weapons, but the weapon as a whole is a work of fiction.

[[Image:MGS4-Railgun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Railgun" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake continues to make a mockery of the idea that he keeps his inventory in anything resembling a backpack.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the railgun; note the magazine in Snake's left hand is proportioned like a pistol mag, since it only contains projectiles with no propellant.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake uses the scope of the railgun to sight up a Gekko hanging from the ceiling in Shadow Moses' casting and rolling facility. The horizontal bars fill in as it charges, while the lower vertical bar is an ammunition counter.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With the Railgun slung over the right shoulder, Crying Wolf's quadrupedal "beast" armour manages the entirely impossible feat of stopping and then lifting a Caterpillar D9 bulldozer with an Israeli-standard up-armour package. This vehicle weighs as much as a main battle tank, and no matter how strong the "beast" is its legs would dig into the ground before it could ever hope to pull this off.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Three Acts later, Crying Wolf takes aim at Snake in the snowfield on Shadow Moses island; strangely, in this cutscene the railgun has an analog zoom on the scope rather than the two-setting digital zoom it has when Snake uses it. This is also the only time the railgun is seen with the armature extended when it isn't being charged.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake hefts the railgun as he prepares to take on a force of Gekko bent on destroying Metal Gear Rex's hangar. Despite that he could barely lift it when he picked it up after defeating Crying Wolf, he uses it just fine the rest of the time.]]

==Tanegashima==

A Japanese clone of a Portugese muzzleloading matchlock arquebus design, this is basically a joke weapon that can only be reloaded while standing, taking a lot of time to do so for only moderate damage and accuracy; costing one million Drebin Points, it's a very expensive joke at that. However, there is a one-third chance that when the Tanegashima is fired outdoors it will instead fire a gigantic whirlwind which knocks enemies down and scatters items everywhere. It is extremely silly.

[[Image:TanegashimaGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Japanese "Tanegashima" matchlock arquebus. Tanegashima was the site of the first contact Japan had with European traders, and these firearms were copies of traded Portugese guns.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Tanegashima" arquebus on the item menu. Note this weapon is rather ridiculously placed in the "assault rifle" class.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aims down the iron sight of his Tanegashima arquebus. Note that only one end of the match is lit; typically on a real matchlock, both ends would be lit in case one was extinguished accidentally.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading involves a suitable amount of fiddling around with the weapon's ramrod, followed by a series of hard-to-make-out actions which are presumably refilling the flash pan, resetting the serpentine and replacing the match.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sometimes it's even worth it.]]

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Talk:Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

2011-10-25T23:43:47Z

Crimsonsguns: /* M4 Custom RAS */ new section

== Airsoft 1911 ==
Are you absolutely sure the airsoft gun wasn't based on the gun in the game?-protoAuthor
:What are you talking about? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 04:10, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
::You say the custom 1911 was based on an airsoft gun. Are you sure it wasn't the other way around?-protoAuthor
::I also agree that the gun isn't based off the one in the pic for that weapon. Aside from it being an airsoft gun, it is a compact version of a 1911 when Big Boss's 1911 was a fullsize. Also, the slide serrations are slanted wheras the ones on big boss's weapon were vertical like those on the original 1911. Neither one has anything to do with the other, I think the image should be removed.

the 'source' for the statement 'Big Boss's gun is based off a custom airsoft' is http://crimsonsguns.tripod.com/gameguns.html

However, I view this with a huge degree of skepticism. For starters, as mentioned, the barrel/slide seems to be longer on Big Boss's gun. But even if it is based on an airsoft gun, the airsoft gun itself is based on a standard real-world 1911 with real world features. So it's just one step removed from raw, hands on research. But then again, I don't think most game companies actually buy real versions of the guns they are modeling, they just look around for photos of them. It's like saying 'the model for the gun in this game isn't based on a REAL M-16, it's based on pictures of an M-16'

That 'source' mentions that the gun was produced by Sheriff Co. Given that Sheriff is mentioned in the MGS3 credits it's actually quite likely that it was in fact modeled off an airsoft gun. However, the one in the picture is obviously not the one in the game.--[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 19:44, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I know that Western Arms did an airsoft version of the MGS3 custom 1911 after the game was released. I wasn't aware of an airsoft gun like that existing before MGS3 was released. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:30, 2 July 2011 (CDT)

== DSR-1 ==

It can also be found in South America when following Naomi's trail, just follow the wrong footsteps from the point where you can also find hand trails. You will hear Naomi crying for help (from a radio) and a sniper will wait for you to come. She has the DSR-1 with her.

== In game pistures ==

Someone needs to post ingame pictures of the guns.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 23:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

this shot gun (http://www.gunsamerica.com/926290644/Guns/Shotguns/Ithaca-Shotguns/SxS/Ithaca_NID_New_Ithaca_Field_Grade.htm) looks alot like the "twin barrel" in the game.--[[Special:Contributions/184.35.22.22|184.35.22.22]] 22:34, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Mark 23 Mod 1? ==
''According to the Metal Gear Wiki, the gun they used as a reference in MGS4 is actually an experimental "Phase 2" model that is currently undergoing testing by the US Navy.''

No, actually it says that ''the SOCOM presented in MGS1, MGS2 and MGS4 is in fact the Phase II model handgun submitted for trials in the USSOCOM Offensive Handgun Weapon System (OHWS) competition around the later part of 1991, and not the actual production model of the Mk.23 Mod 0''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 23:37, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

::I wrote that -- the differences were the LAM, front serrations on the slide, markings, and the hammer looked different too. By the time the Mk23 was received in May '96, these details bad been changed; both for the military and civilian versions of the pistol. Overall, they're mostly aesthetic changes. -- Orca*

==Screenshots needed==

This page needs someone with enough effort to add pictures for all of these guns. -GM

:I can't do screencaps, but I did add some details about some of the weapons such as where they can be found and such. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

:I would agree that a game with this many weapons would be much better with more relevant screencaps, especially ones without watermarks. More relevant information about the guns themselves would also be welcome.

==Why the strange biases towards certain weapons and calibers in this game?==

It seems odd to me why the weapon/caliber selection is so odd in this game. Metal Gear Solid has been one of the best game series to prominently display the real names of every gun in the game, but I have to wonder if some of those companies Kojima got permission from paid him to underplay the abilities of other guns in this game.

For the calibers, it seems mighty odd that the Glock 18c is the only 9x19mm pistol in the entire game. Not even the rebels or militia use older 9x19mm pistols, which is very odd because you'd think that of the vast majority of older pistols that escaped the worldwide mandatory ID lock systems that is mentioned in the game's backstory would be 9x19mm pistols. Not even something like a Beretta M9 is used by the PMC troopers, even though it would be a nice free choice to have in Metal Gear Online.

The game also strangely features 7.62x51mm Battle Rifles where they aren't the most appropriate, such as how the PMCs use the FN SCAR-H even in the confines of urban ruins (as in Act 1) or an intact city (as in Act 3). Only the South American countryside in Act 2 would be an appropriate location for those Battle Rifles in the hands of general troopers. You'd think that Kojima with his weaponry knowledge would give them assault rifles/PDWs/shotguns instead while in urban operations, but that's somehow not the case.

Did H&K and FN pay Kojima to include (and in turn, advertise) their products a great deal in this highly-anticipated and wildly popular game? FN has the Five-SeveN, the P90, the SCAR-H, and the FAL all in the game, while H&K has the SOCOM pistol, the MP5SD2, the XM8, the G3A3, and the HK21E. Colt products and their users by contrast don't get that kind of exposure--Colt M4s are rare, and Colt M16s are completely non-existent in this game. I also think it's telling that the FN P90 has its 50 round magazine, a combat sight, a flashlight and a suppressor, but its competitor, the H&K MP7 has only a red dot sight and is stuck with its 20 round magazine (not its upgraded 40 round magazine) according to this game just can't compete.

Contrary to what some posters on this wiki have said elsewhere, I don't believe this game is biased towards the latest and greatest weapons in general, as several weapons here such as the Vz. 83, the FN FAL carbine, the G3A3, the MAC-10, the Mosin Nagant, the PKM, the RPG-7 and the SVD Dragonuv are quite old.

Kojima definitely spent some time doing weapons research for this game, but did he ever come out with a reason as to why the game chose such odd additions to its arsenal? His personal favourite gun is the Barret M82, something not suited for general combat, so maybe he himself doesn't know as much as the ingame info might imply. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 00:50, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I think the same arguments could be said about any of the Tom Clancy games like Rainbow Six Vegas and it's whoring worth of H&K weaponry [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

It would seem to me that if HK and FN paid Kojima off to showcase (or "whore out", whichever you reading this prefers) their tech, weapons like the XM8 and SCAR-H wouldn't be seemingly outclassed by the M4. You can kit the M4 out with anything and everything, while the SCAR-H lacks a suppressor and grenade launcher (severely hindering its flexibility) and the only thing the XM8 gets is the grenade launcher. Heck, the M4 is pretty much a CQB, grenadier, and designated marksman carbine all in one package (and I typically use it as such, often foregoing the actual ''sniper rifles'' in the game in long range combat for the M4 equipped with an ACOG). If HK or FN had paid him off, it would seem logical for the M4 to be totally outclassed in-game by both the XM8 and SCAR-H. Not only those points, but the M4 and the 1911s (I say 1911s collectively because cutscenes seem to automatically replace every non-1911 pistol in your inventory with the Operator) are implied to be Snake's signature weapons this time around. If he were paid off, why aren't the Mark 23 and XM8 or Five-Seven and SCAR-H his signature weapons? Also where's the PSG1, the so-called "greatest sniper rifle in the world" (or so HK says)? And I also feel the urge to point out that the HK21E has '''0''' modifications for it as well as a ridiculously slow ROF, which makes the M60E4 ''clearly'' superior to it. Now, I'm not exactly ''defending'' either company here, but it just seems to me that if they had paid Kojima off, the biases pointed out here would be far more extreme. As it stands, I just think Kojima wanted the weapons he likes the most to be the ones players used the most. Regarding the "old" weapons in the game, they may have seen a few years, yes, but FALs, G3s, Dragunovs, PKs, and above all the RPG-7 are so ubiquitous today that we'll be seeing them on modern battlefields, ''especially'' ones in the Middle East, for decades to come. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 08:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

:Actually, now that I've spent some time thinking about it, the M4 and M1911 in MGS4 may not actually be Colt products at all. After all, didn't a court decision in real life rule that an M4 is a type of firearm and not a Colt trademark at all? It's kind of like how an "M1911-style pistol" is also a type of pistol, not a Colt trademark which is why there are dozens if not hundreds of kinds of "M1911-style pistols" for sale on the general market today. I wonder if Kojima asked Colt to use their trademarks and got rebuffed for whatever reason, which might have caused him to withdraw the M4s from the PMCs and substitute FN SCAR-Hs until someone told him he could just call it an M4 (though not a Colt M4) and avoid copyright infringement.

:On the issue of customizability, I think the M4's customizability compared to, for instance, the XM8 and FN SCAR-H is a bit of laziness on the part of Kojima. I don't think there's any reason why they couldn't just stick the M14 EBR's suppressor model on the end of the FN SCAR-H or G3A3 and turn those two into suppressed firearms, for instance. They could have also stuck the M4's suppressor model onto the AK-101 or XM8 as well (in my opinion the XM8's integral red dot sight in MGS4 is easier to use than the M4's, being a great deal less claustrophobic than the M4's version). Something like the FN EGLM would have been nice on the SCAR-H (or the SCAR-L had they bothered to give the PMCs assault rifles in urban areas) but unlike the M320 or GP-30, would only have gone on one weapon (unless the SCAR-L was included) and possibly not have been good on the cost-benefit analysis. But my point, that the customizability of many of the weapon systems (where are the PSO-1 scopes for the AN-94 and AK-102, for instance?) is more an artifact of the design decision than the reality of the weapons in question. Of course, even with the full "real-life" customizability, the M4 would still be the only one capable of carrying an underslung shotgun, which I think is unique enough (though I bet the XM8 could have gotten one had it been adopted, and I'm sure one will be designed for the FN SCAR models if it proves itself in the field enough).

:Oh, and one of the reasons why you can snipe with the M4 is because the game over-emphasizes headshots and doesn't implement ballistic physics for bullets. If it did, bullet drop would come into play (especially since the M4's short barrel means that less velocity and energy is imparted to the bullet, resulting in less effective range), moreso with the M4 than the FN SCAR-H or M14 EBR for instance. I think the game would have been more fun if helmets were stronger (for instance, 5 helmet hits from most pistol weapons to kill, 3 helmet hits from 5.56mm weapons to kill someone, or 2 7.62x51mm/PDW ammunition hits, or 1 9x39mm/shotgun slug hit), forcing the player to aim for the exposed face or neck to guarantee a one-hit headshot kill).

:I only mentioned those weapons as "old" so as to defuse claims that Kojima was only focussed on the "latest and greatest."

:It would have been nice if a PSG-1 and FAMAS (both weapons used in MGS1) showed up in the game for old time's sake, but that was not to be. Still, that doesn't resolve the question of why HK's PDW (the MP7A1) is so inferior to FN's PDW (the P90) in this game. Even the wikipedia image of the MP7A1 shows it with a suppressor and 40 round magazine, along with custom optics. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 18:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

::Play on a higher difficulty level. The strength of the PMC's helmets varies. On the easiest level, a single 9mm round will punch through. On the highest level, it takes a couple of rounds of 7.62 NATO to punch through. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 08:50, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

One imagines a general switch from assault rifles back to battle rifles would occur in a world where you might reasonably expect to encounter extremely tough infantry armour or power suits; given the nature of the PMCs as private entities, being "equipped for anything" is probably a selling point. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:23, 29 May 2011 (CDT)

:Sure, but if you're really "equipped for anything" you'd issue what's needed for the environment. And the PMCs in Act 2 (South America) still use the SCAR-H CQC even though in open countryside that barrel length is more of a liability than anything else. Even the Leftist insurgents are using full-size G3A3s in that stage. In a battle rifle, the shorter the barrel, the more of the cartridge's energy goes to waste as useless muzzle flash and sound. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 00:09, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

::To be fair, Pieuvre Armement also have more support weapons than any of the other PMCs (snipers, HMGs, grenade launchers, and a lot of mounted guns) and it looks like they were primarily hired to defend key government structures rather than fight it out in the open. Perhaps with the SCARs they just got a bulk discount, or given it's a private entity it could just be one of the directors like the look of the weapon / someone was impressed by the salesman's spiel / someone was sleeping with someone else / whatever. Out of game, it makes some sense; it means you only need one set of gestures coded for NPC / rifle no matter what level they're in. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:19, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

:If Kojima's aim was to make the FN SCAR-H a "this is one of the signature enemy NPC guns" type of thing, then that does make some sense, but that doesn't even cover how many Pieuvre Armement troopers can be found patrolling in the open, sometimes ambushed by Leftist insurgents, or the lack of customizability options for the FN SCAR-H.

:Furthermore, if Kojima and his team could afford the time and money to put the KAC Masterkey on the M4A1 Carbine (an accessory that can be mounted on no other weapon in this game) you could just as easily do the same kind of work and stick an FN EGLM grenade launcher to the SCAR-H (it uses the same swing-out cylinder as does the M320 grenade launcher, so the animations would be largely the same), to say nothing of a suppressor or the LSS underslung shotgun for the XM8. And why not rip off the Mk. 14 Mod 0's suppressor to use on the SCAR-H, G3A3 or the FAL carbine? Before you tell me "they don't have barrel threading," neither does Snake's Operator pistol, his very first suppressed lethal weapon. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 15:31, 30 May 2011 (CDT)
::Uh dude, Snake's Operator does have a threaded barrel, did you even look at the pics... - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:41, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

:I stand corrected, the thumbnail made the threading blend together into a featureless grey. Regardless, my other points stand. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 15:55, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

I think the idea was to make players want to use the M4 over other weapons (I guess to emphasise it), so the SCAR couldn't be as good as it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:07, 31 May 2011 (CDT)

Noteworthy is the fact that the Masterkey in reality doesn't come in a rail-mounted version like is shown in-game. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:44, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

== Mk. 23 Mod 0 ==
I just have to ask this; why does Snake like using the H&K Mk. 23? I mean, from everything I've heard/read about them, the USP compact tactical variant is much better, so why doesn't Snake use that?--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 16:00, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

He uses it because the designers wanted him to use it. And if you've ever shot a Mk23 you'd know that it is vastly superior to the entire USP series in every possible way other than weight and weight shouldnt be an issue you're looking for a combat handgun.
-Double Agent M

:Um, yes, weight ''is'' an issue in a combat handgun. Weight is ''always'' an issue when it comes to the weapons and gear used by soldiers. That's why the Mark 23 ''failed'' as a combat handgun and lavished on supply shelves instead of inside holsters like the various 1911 makes and even the entire USP series. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 08:55, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I've been meaning to ask this for a while now on the HK Mk. 23's page, but since this was brought up, I might as well ask it here: why ''was'' the Mk. 23 made so big and bulky in the first place, if its performance could have been replicated in the smaller USP series? It's close in size to the Desert Eagle despite firing a smaller (and more combat-practical) cartridge. Was it to ensure ruggedness, resistance to salt water damage, and reliability? Or something else? It's always puzzled me about this pistol that is one of the signature weapons of the Metal Gear Solid series (making appearances in 1, 2, and 4). Of course, it could be that Kojima just thinks it's a "cool gun" . . . --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 20:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Its weight helps counteract recoil, the elongated barrel improves accuracy, and right out of the box it can be fitted with a suppressor and a LEM. It's bulky enough so that if you need to you can beat a man to death with it. It's a fantastic combat handgun but where it loses out to Berettas and Colts is in complexity. Because of it's raw size you cant just whip it around and the controls can take some getting used to. It's not intended to be a back-up weapon, it's designed to supplement and compliment a shooter's primary firearm.
-Double Agent M

:Supposedly the USP Compact Tactical can mount a suppressor and Laser Aiming Module, but only has 8 rounds in .45 ACP. Also, as a "Offensive Handgun Weapons System," the SOCOM pistol supposed to be usable as a primary weapon when killing is supposed to be done discreetly, such as many situations in the Metal Gear Solid series. On paper I can see why it's better, but if the hands-on experience of operators deems it as "uncomfortable to carry and use," then their complaints trump the on-paper benefits.

:Of course, "uncomfortable" and "hard to use" is a bit of a relative term, since training and practice can certainly acclimatise someone to almost any well-designed weapons system, but that takes time, money, and perseverance. Given that handguns are hardly a primary weapon system anymore, and the majority those who do professionally use them as such (such as average beat cops) don't train with them to be expert shooters most of the time, I suppose ease of use is a major factor because it's the easier way out instead of spending time to get used to a better-on-paper but less-user-friendly weapon. If "better-on-paper" mattered more, wouldn't the FBI be using Glock 20 pistols instead of Glock 22 pistols? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 16:48, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree with you. :) But I'd still love to get a hold of one and try it for myself. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 13:23, 16 April 2011 (CDT)

:: "It's not intended to be a back-up weapon, it's designed to supplement and compliment a shooter's primary firearm." <-I love this kind of thing. Sure, a pistol that's a foot and an half long with a suppressor and weighs as much as an empty MP5 is a much better compliment to your primary weapon than it's weight in extra magazines ''for'' that primary weapon. Think you needed to lay off the HK propaganda there, "Agent M." To actually answer the question, they used the Mk23 because it's huge and blocky (same reason Meryl got that 50 AE Deagle), so it's easy for the player to see it in Snake's hands and for the PS1 to render it. Simple as that. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:42, 16 April 2011 (CDT)

:::I've heard from a lot people who actually own MK 23s and they say that their excellent weapons (and no, it was not "HK propaganda"). - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 13:23, 16 April 2011 (CDT)

::::From what I've heard, they're excellent weapons in terms of accuracy (which comes from being gigantic and heavy) but not something you'd want to take into combat; they're too big for a backup weapon and not capable enough as a primary weapon. Also, anyone who drops the cost of a Mk23 on a pistol is going to have thought it was an excellent weapon ''before'' they bought it, otherwise they never would have done so in the first place. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:56, 24 May 2011 (CDT)
:::::I would buy one, but hey, a four pound .44 Magnum revolver feels like nothing in my hands, and I'm only a medium-sized guy with not much of a build. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 17:43, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

== Meryl's Desert Eagle ==

Just how "combat-effective" would the ballistics of Meryl's long-barrelled Desert Eagle be? What might the effective range be, and would it regularly penetrate the body armour of the FROG troopers she faces? Or would she be better off with an 40-round MP7A1 (to go with the theme of "biggest to smallest" weapons of the Rat Patrol) when fighting the FROG troopers in Advent Palace and Outer Haven? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 15:51, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

*I've got an Airsoft Desert Eagle (bought many years ago, mind) that came with both barrels, and it's weighted to the point you can see what a bad idea it is: it's ridiculously front-heavy with that barrel extension, and I imagine with a scope as well it'd probably weigh as much as the MP7 anyway. So maybe it could penetrate body armour and maybe it couldn't, but you'd still have better ergo from using a 1911 duct-taped to the head of a banjo. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:21, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

:Okay, so that Airsoft model exactly duplicates the loaded weight of Meryl's long-barrelled Desert Eagle? That's rather interesting. Even if it couldn't penetrate the body armour the FROGs seem to be wearing, would the impact force be enough to inflict blunt trauma on the FROGs, such as broken ribs, concussions, or the like? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 22:15, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

Well back when I did Airsoft, I played for functionality and being simple. Sure my team and I decked out our guns, but nothing more than red dot sights, and vertical grips. Because it isn't real firearms, we tried to not equip like we would a real weapon because it's not the same thing. Lighter is always better. The less we have to carry, the better. That being said, I would never get an Airsoft Desert Eagle to shoot in games. For fun, yeah. It'll be cool to run around the woods with the 10in barrel and a scope mounted on it, but you wouldn't get any good range with an airsoft pistol anyway, even if it is gas powered. Now a REAL Desert Eagle, I'd get for fun, but that's only after I get my more practical guns first.

Anyway, I think from a character standpoint, Meryl's character is supposed to be a "tough chick" so what's the iconic tough guy gun? A Desert Eagle from the action movies. I don't know if the .50 AE could go through body armor [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:42, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

:Yeah, I just use it for plinking spiders because I have a high ceiling. Bought it because I was a teenager and it was a Desert Eagle, I will make no excuses on that front. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:48, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

::lol, I also bought a Airsoft Desert Eagle when I was a teenager and I still have it. :D - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 17:50, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

:::Well, living here in Comrade Elizabeth's Glorious People's Republic of Englandstan makes it easy to hang on to it since if I'm reading this correctly I couldn't legally sell it anyway. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:13, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

::::lol. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 07:49, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

:Well I admit before I knew anything about the M16, I was very anti-gun kid in early high school. Then when I got to know guns, I thought the M16 is this Vietnam piece of crap that jams all the time and the AK is the ultimate assault rifle until I grew up and got a more objective view of guns. When buying my first Airsoft, I bought a P90 cause I was a fan of Stargate...then I discovered a P90 Airsoft is useless, inaccurate and has terrible range. So I went and bought an M733, and then realize that you need a longer barrel for range and accuracy and that evolved to my M4 type rifle. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:59, 6 March 2011 (MSK)

One more thing; does the reloading style Meryl uses in the fight inside Outer Haven's computer room have a name (where she jams one of her magazines into the crook of her knee while firing with her other hand, before reloading an empty Desert Eagle with the magazine held in her knee)? I see so many adds for shooting schools with patented styles around I have to wonder if this comes from one of them. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 22:11, 21 June 2011 (CDT)

== Tanegashima rifle ==

Why isn't it on the page?

:Thanks to Evil Tim's hard work, it is now on the page. However, there's something that remains to be investigated; I've heard conflicting reports about whether or not the Tanegashima arquebus will always fire its "divine wind" (translated version of the Japanese word "Kamikaze") tornado if you fire it in the opposite direction of the wind in a singleplayer level. That could be something worth looking into. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 07:15, 2 June 2011 (CDT)
::I'll check up on that; I'd just heard it was a one-third chance per shot. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:51, 2 June 2011 (CDT)
::Nope, nothing to do with the wind direction, I tried with and against the wind, and in the end it just went off at random like usual. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:17, 3 June 2011 (CDT)
:I see it was just a rumour then. Still, I'm puzzled as to why you didn't take a screenshot highlighting the extreme silliness of the weapon; it would have been worth a chuckle to see a screenshot of PMCs caught in the tornado flying in a spiral while dropping far more items than they could ever carry in real life while collecting their "frequent flier miles."--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 12:57, 4 June 2011 (CDT)
::Well, I accidentally selected Solid Normal rather than Big Wuss Easy, and it's hard enough getting the Tanegashima to do its thing normally, nevermind trying to check how it's affected by the direction of the wind while being shot at. I'm doing enough stupid things to burn through rations as it is :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:58, 6 June 2011 (CDT)
:I see; I guess not all of us have the time to learn how not to get shot up less in this game (here's a tip; going prone or crawling is the best way to use your Octocamo). Would have been nice to see PMCs flying in a big spiral anyhow on this wiki. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 22:43, 6 June 2011 (CDT)
::Well sure, I can be pretty sneaky when I'm not doing stupid things like seeing if I can get a Gekko to throw a grenade at me. Same as I'm trying to avoid wearing the Octocamo hood even though it's good for your camo index, because it also makes Snake look really stoopid. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:42, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

== Someone needs to finish this page ==

This page is how old and no one has finished it? Someone needs to start doing it.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Well I don't have this game and it's a chore to get all the screenshots second hand [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I've got a much better capture device than I used to, so I could probably do this at some stage; the main problem is I'd have to record it first (since the software with the Dazzle crashes every time I take a screenshot and BSODs the entire computer if I try to take more than one); I'll have a crack at it next time I'm off work. Don't want to just stand in a corner looking at the same thing for every gun, that makes for dull page. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:34, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

:Please do. Stealth camo would be useful to take screenshots of weapons in the hands of NPCs (such as the MP7 or the like). --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 00:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

::Still on this. It's going to take a while before I have time (especially since I'll need to record some of those billion hours of cutscenes), but I haven't forgotten. I'll probably get Twin Snakes and cap the whole series, since doing PS1 MGS1 without first-person aim mode for caps would be a bit pointless. "Look, Snake has a FAMAS! Down there in his hands...oh just click on the damn image and press your nose right up to the screen." Only thing I really need from that is a comparison shot of the Abrams, since the original game's one had two M2 Brownings instead of one. Also I've got an MGS2 trailer somewhere showing Snake with a FAMAS, so I'll have to add that to the 2 page. I'm hoping I can find a picture of the wooden prop version of Fortune's railgun that they built for motion capture. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:31, 16 April 2011 (CDT)

:Good to know. I'm looking forward to a full version of this page. I would have finished the MGS2 page myself, except that the PC version I have (the official KONAMI port) is somewhat poorly optimized, with some textures missing or improperly rendered (and what do you mean, KONAMI, that we can't use the mouse to aim in FPV or duplicate the pressure sensitive button functions from a PS2 controller with a keyboard?!). Also, the FAMAS in MGS2 is only usable on the demo version of MGS2 (though it does show up in some cutscenes in the Plant chapter for some strange reason). Did they reuse the MGS2 Demo FAMAS for the Twin Snakes? Perhaps you can find out. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:54, 16 April 2011 (CDT)

::Yeah, that'd be worth checking. I heard GIAT (it was still GIAT back then) got very precious about their intellectual property after they realised people wanted to put the FAMAS in games (they're the same about model companies and the LeClerc, Tamiya had to stick their logo and "officially endorsed" on the box of their LeClerc kit) and I think that's why Konami pulled the FAMAS from 2 and never had it turn up again even in 4. Probably they couldn't say no to using it in a remake since they'd already said yes the first time. I've still got the demo of 2 (only reason anyone bought ''Zone of the Enders'', after all) and the FAMAS isn't in that either; it goes from the start of Tanker to the end of the boss fight with Olga, and only gives you the M9 and USP. It was only ever in the early trailers showing Snake on the Tanker. I heard there's some other changes like the guys in the Warhead Storage room using ring airfoil rounds rather than just instakilling you with a radiation leak if you were spotted. Also, you didn't miss anything with the pressure sensitive buttons, trying to half-hold the fire button to aim a rifle in first person was terrible. Apparently the "Tanegashima" is a Japanese copy of a Portugese arquebus design (sayeth Wikipedia, anyway), so I'll have to add that to the page too. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:19, 16 April 2011 (CDT)

:Well, copyright is a sticky situation (go look at one of my earlier comments here and notice how there are no Colt products in this game, despite the presence of an M4A1 Carbine and an M1911). Ubisoft got around it because the FAMAS appears in Rainbow Six Vegas 2 by its real name, so why not MGS4? And I was wrong; the FAMAS is coded within the MGS2 demo, but it is only accessible [http://youtu.be/MxfMCXcpGx8 via a code]. And actually there are a few uses for the pressure-sensitive buttons in MGS2--without them you bang your head against a locker ventilation grille when trying to look out, alerting any nearby enemies. You also can't aim an assault rifle without the pressure-sensitive controls, which made controlling them on the PC next to impossible. Another problem is you can't lower a pistol without firing it if you don't let go of the aiming button gently (I got around this on the PC version by unequipping my weapon). Finally, the distance you throw grenades is determined by how hard you press the pressure-sensitive button (but they were almost useless anyway since throwing a frag or flashbang grenade automatically causes an alert upon detonation and frags have a small damage radius). All this made for a frustratingly bad PC port, which is why I caved in and got the PS2 version afterwards. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 15:20, 16 April 2011 (CDT)

Well, made a start before realising I'm going to have to crop the borders off every image by hand. :( Ah well, they're just placeholders anyway just so we can get rid of the IGN watermarks and have actual game images. For now they can keep the borders and I'll replace them all when I do this page properly. I hope you appreciate my sacrifice, I had to uninstall Vanquish to get these. Stupid 40 gig PS3. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:35, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

Good work so far Tim. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:40, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

*Ok, I'll put up the explosives later today (since we don't have them at all). I'm fairly sure the railgun qualifies as reasonably believable; it was actually built as a physical object (a wooden MoCap prop) and looks like an XM25 that's eaten its Wheaties. And then everyone else's Wheaties. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:29, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

Anyone remember where the PMCs with standalone Masterkeys show up? I think it's somewhere in Act 2, but I can't remember if you have to cause an alert or if they're just ahead of where I stopped recording (partway through Confinement Facility). Also, don't worry, the shots aren't all going to be from Act 2. Also added a spoiler warning since, well, I can hardly ''not'' have a shot of A Certain Person holding the Patriot, and the fourth Act being on Shadow Moses is kind of a spoiler too. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:07, 29 May 2011 (CDT)

:There's definitely at least one in the Confinement Facility, check out about 10:50 of this video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg87rbI3CXU#t=10m50s], there's a guard with one who shows up with one at the right edge of the screen (pretty sure he always respawns there with a Masterkey). --[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 15:27, 29 May 2011 (CDT)

::Naw, that's an XM320, he's one of the pair I've got a shot of in that section. You can hear a "phut" rather than a shotgun blast when he fires. But I know there's people with standalone Masterkeys somewhere, because I remember being puzzled at why on earth you would create such a thing. (edit) Ah, MG Wiki says there's one at the gate of Vista Mansion. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:05, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

:Also, considering all the shit that fits inside Metal Gear Mk. 2 (50 Stingers, 50 Javelins, 50 LAWs, a Barrett, a railgun the size of a pony, etc) why does it never occur to Snake to hide inside it himself? I know they kind of joked about it with Snake being able to pocket a drum can that's bigger than he is, but still. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:36, 29 May 2011 (CDT)

It's called a "Hyperspace Arsenal." I would be all for a realistic mode that forced you to carry guns that are too big right from the beginning of a mission rather than have them delivered by the mini-Metal Gear, or have you collect them after a period of time after "requesting" them at a cache location dropped off by Drebin, or else only be able to transfer/launder/buy ammo just after meeting Drebin in cutscenes. Still, that wouldn't address the other realism issues this game has, such as how the NPCs are indestructible--shouldn't shooting them with .50 BMG weapons or high explosives blow off limbs or reduce them to ludicrous gibs? And what about the octocamo system; wouldn't the human eye only be realistically fooled if Snake was hiding in foliage or else, quite some distance away, lest the enemies spot his outline and start shooting at Snake?

In any case, do you think you could also include tidbits on which guns need to be laundered and which don't need to be? It'd be a nice tidbit, since the entry already includes which guns are available in multiplayer and which aren't. I'm very much looking forward to seeing more great screenshots of this game's guns--do you think it'd be possible for you to equip stealth camo and enter First Person view so we can see NPCs with holding their guns up close?--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 14:06, 29 May 2011 (CDT)

:I'm afraid I don't have stealth camo (I can never resist firing LAWs at Strykers :() but I tend to prefer wider shots with things actually going on in them; just focusing right in on the gun makes the page rather dull to look through, IMO (I ''hate'' those CoD page images with everything cropped out but one corner of the screen; just imagine if you took the shot of Dirty Harry holding his revolver in the "do you feel lucky?" scene and cut out everything but the revolver). Also, I'm fairly sure the player and world models for weapons are exactly the same in this game. Still, it's not that hard to get close when you're recording video rather than taking individual screenshots, and it's even easier to get close to the totally broken Raven Sword AI in Act 3. Plus you can get great views of almost all the PMC weapons in cutscenes anyway. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:53, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

I didn't mean cropping the images so that only the guns are visible; I was just saying that with Stealth camo you could get within punching (or kissing) distance of the various NPCs in the game so you could get good pics of them holding their weapons without the annoying black-screen parts from scopes or the HUD marks in the centre of the screen if you use Snake's binocular's or the mini-Metal Gear's camera view. Also, could you please please please make a screenshot of the FROG firing her DSR-1 at Big Mama followed by the latter's "I'm fine" despite not wearing any body armour? I find it one of the more unintentionally hilarious parts of the game. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 16:15, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

:I'll be sure to get that, yes. Though for me the funniest sequence was the part before the "guns of the Patriots" part, where the US Army were pointing guns at Liquid Ocelot's boat and making clicking noises for so long it became ridiculous. Of course the Foxdie scene was funnier, but probably intentional (Snake and Liquid do the "Fox..." "...Die" bit, Liquid Ocelot jumps up and runs away cackling ridiculously and Snake responds by falling over). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:05, 31 May 2011 (CDT)

Heh heh, it's funny how after the "Guns of the Patriots" scene, Drebin's prices fall flat on their faces with a permanent 50% discount until the end of the game. Of course, that raises the question about why Drebin's prices never go up; wouldn't the complete lock-out of ID-locked firearms mean that the services of gun launderers like Drebin would be more in demand than ever (resulting in a huge price increase), even if just to keep the Rebels who use naked guns from killing all the ID-locked gun users? It's just another entry in the long list of this game's realism problems. And of course, the first FOXDIE scene is another manifestation of how wrong it was to let Kojima direct the game, since he's so firmly stuck in MGS1's shadow the plot of MGS4 is so firmly stuck in the first game's mold. Of course, that's got nothing to do with the weaponry in the game, but I'm still looking forward to this page's completion nonetheless. By the way, have you seen Ocelot's "THINK AGAIN!" ability in Metal Gear Online yet?--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 21:47, 31 May 2011 (CDT)

:I must admit I've never played MGO. As for Kojima, I think he was at his best in MGS3 when he was making a tribute to something he loved (the old spy movies that had inspired the series in the first place, with their cool gadgets and ridiculous villians) and he's at his worst when he's trying to force out a game he seems to have regarded as his obligation; I remember that he didn't really want to be involved in 4 and only came back on board after the fans raised a stink about his being absent. He strikes me as a lot like Lucas, who was great when he was making a tribute to the old-fashioned sci-fi he grew up with and hideous when he was left making something he didn't really care for except as a way to make money. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:57, 1 June 2011 (CDT)

Funny that you mentioned George Lucas. I have to wonder whether or not Kojima took some inspiration from Lucas when he decided to make his newest, completely over-referenced MacGuffin: nanomachines that do almost everything, from track biological functions to serve as ID keys, even form the basis for mind control or emotional manipulation. Kind of reminded me of Lucas' "midi-chlorians," since the two of them are both blood-borne squiggly things. Oh well, the fans, like everyone else, don't always know how what they want isn't necessarily what they need. And even the greatest of us can succumb to "Creator's Conceit," whereupon one starts believing in the delusion that "because I made this best-selling piece of media, I can change it however I want, heedless of the needs of believability, plausibility, realism or even my own previous work." Ocelot's "THINK AGAIN" ability in Metal Gear Online can be seen in full force [http://youtu.be/XM7yc5Gf_OU here]. You should give Metal Gear Online a try if you have the money; its training mode is great for taking pictures of the unique characters and their weapons, and it is the only mode where you can use the ballistic shield, or hear the various multiplayer characters do their Rambo impressions while firing an M60E4. Once again, a hearty thank you for your hard work. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 07:26, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

:I think I'm immune to stupid depictions of nanomachines after playing the two ''Deus Ex'' games, expecially the second one where you apparently have a nanoforge in every weapon that makes the relevant ammo type out of a universal base material ''as you fire''. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:53, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

:Also, I'm trying to remember: I know there's no flashback of Vulcan Raven, but wasn't there one of Sniper Wolf that showed her PSG-1 at one point? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:59, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

::The various flashbacks in Act 4 can be found [http://youtu.be/81A3yb_FATg here] and [http://youtu.be/aznWCpBYkKQ here]. You can check those out at your leisure. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 12:50, 4 June 2011 (CDT)

:::The links you're posting don't work [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:59, 6 June 2011 (CDT)

::Pardon me, they're fixed now. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 21:13, 6 June 2011 (CDT)

Right, that's me out for today, getting sleepy. Got a lot more caps to get off this Act 1 video, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:13, 3 June 2011 (CDT)

:I think if you see Sniper Wolf's PSG-1 it's part of Crying Wolf's death scene or Naomi's (I seem to recall there's an X button prompt when Otacon is getting upset about that whole thing where everyone he displays the slightest affection for dies instantly), which that doesn't have. Regardless, been a little busy, but should have some new caps up soon. I'm trying to get everything with a Browning M2, so IIRC I still need the Stryker MGS from Act 2, the Humvee in Act 3 and the derelict M1 tank in the hanger in Act 4. I'll finally be able to take that "Incomplete" down once I get a shot of Rex, Ray or one of ''Missouri's'' Phalanxes. Also might see if I can ID those two giant cannons on Liquid's boat, at least in a caption. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:10, 7 June 2011 (CDT)

::I was right, you ''do'' have an X button flashback there. There's also a painting of Big Boss holding his old Mark 22 in Big Mama's church, because it makes sense for one of those to be there. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 21:12, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

Having never had a chance to really pay attention to the Vamp / Raiden fight until now, I must admit I laughed my ass off at the part where Raiden has both arms pinned to his back and so blocks Vamp's arm and then throws him using only his teeth. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 20:36, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

Ok, going to be redoing all these caps soon (seen [[Dark Sector]] for why, comparing the new shots with the ones of the Spectre and G36; I've now got an official Sony component cable, so the red after-image from my third-party cable on the [[Bodycount]] page is gone). Going to be kind of "fun" trying to get the same shots all over again, I'll probably be updating all the basic weapon images tomorrow or so and then starting on recording the levels. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:53, 24 September 2011 (CDT)

:The things we do for this wiki . . . well, I'm glad you're willing to get more screenshots over something that isn't very visible on the thumbnails. Are you talking about the red-tinged edges that can be seen on some of your screenshots on the Bodycount page? That's known as chromatic abberration, but I can't see much of it on the MGS4 screenshots myself. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:01, 25 September 2011 (CDT)

::Naw, the red was just why I was holding out for the Sony cable, that's why it isn't on the Dark Sector images (I now have it). The reason I'm going to replace these images is they're taken using a much lower-resolution capture device than the one I now have (a Pinnacle Dazzle rather than a Hauppage HD-PVR). You'll see the difference. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:45, 25 September 2011 (CDT)

OK, here's the difference:

[[Image:MGS4-1911Cus.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:MGS4-M1911Cus-HQ.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
I'll resize the rest to 1280x720 or so rather than all of them being as big as that one, it's kinda unnecessary when they're only shown on the page at 600px anyway. The weird effect at full resolution is how the pause menu is actually supposed to look, to those not familiar with MGS4. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:50, 25 September 2011 (CDT)

:YES. Better resolution is ALWAYS welcome. Looking forward to seeing more MGS "gun porn" in HD, as well as seeing some other issues resolved (such as whether the M10 and M60E4 are closed-bolt firearms in this game or their original open-bolt versions, just how Old Snake holds the M10 in a two-handed fashion with no foregrip, suppressor, or strap to put his offhand on, etc.). --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 07:01, 25 September 2011 (CDT)

::If Snake is holding the MAC-10 in a two-handed grip without the aid of an foregrip, suppressor, or strap, he would hold it in a Weaver-stance or a CAR-stance. I saw a screen shot of him using the MAC-10 and he held it in a Weaver-stance like a handgun while utilizing the stock, which makes good practical sense. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 18:28, 25 September 2011 (CDT)

:I see. Regardless, I'm surprised that Kojima didn't slap on a "modernizing conversion" for the MAC-10 in this game, such as made available by [http://www.max-11.com/ Lage Mfg], which in short makes the gun much easier to handle by increasing the length of the barrel and handguard to add space for rails (and their accessories), a foregrip and folding buttstock, along with a mechanism that reduces the rate of fire to 600 RPM from 1100 RPM. This sort of conversion kit would essentially turn the MAC-10 into a close competitor for the HK UMP, except that this "MAX-10" version would be easier to instinctively reload since the magazine goes in the pistol grip. Too bad that the only .45 SMG in this game just isn't that good; whatever else can be said about the MAC-10, ergonomics were clearly not emphasized in its original design. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 10:45, 2 October 2011 (CDT)

::From what I know, the MAC-10 has inferior reliability compared to the UZI and pretty much any other SMG design. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:07, 2 October 2011 (CDT)

Just a couple of new images tonight, going to do the rest of this video tomorrow. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:44, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

Oh, and here's Otacon explaining why the AK jammed:

[[Image:MGS4-Otaconsez.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Also, there was apparently more than one cartridge in the chamber. That might have been a problem too."]]

[[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:48, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

:I think that's pretty cool he explains what possibly happened to the weapon, you don't get that in very many games. But it still doesn't explains ''how'' this happened to an AK, I could expect that from an AR, but an AK? Like I said on the page, Snake must have REALLY bad luck. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:25, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

::Well, he's not the only one, I noticed at least one of the rebels struggling with the charging handle of his AK during the same sequence. It must just be ''really'' bad ammo. Maybe it's special ''Far Cry 2'' ammo made from blasting caps and dynamite. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 15:36, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

:::I think you just solved it mate. ;) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:20, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

Had a few problems with my footage being blurry (not in the shots I actually uploaded, mind) which I think is my old PC. A suitably beefy PC should be winging it's way to me in the next couple of weeks. :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:45, 4 October 2011 (CDT)

:I've already had my new beefed-up PC a couple of weeks. :D Now I'm counting down the days for BF3. >:B - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 18:09, 4 October 2011 (CDT)

::Then let us do as men have done for centuries and compare the lengths of our, um, computers. Mine's going to be an i7 2600K overclocked to 4.6 GHz, SLI 2 x 1,536 meg GeForce cards, 16 gigs RAM, 120 gig SSD + 3 terabyte data drive. I imagine it'll just be able to scare Crysis into running. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:05, 4 October 2011 (CDT)

== Screenshot requests ==

I know Evil Tim's busy, but this might be a good opportunity to let him know what screenshots might be appropriate to showcase each weapon.
*Five-seveN pistol: Old Snake commits "sexual assault" at gunpoint by holding up a FROG trooper with her own pistol while patting her down for items, along with the "crotch grab" move.
*MAC-10/G18C: Old Snake tries out for a movie of "Bonnie and Clyde" while performing a drive-by shooting from Big Mama's motorcycle.
*M4 Custom: For some reason, Old Snake has taken up the habit of shooting this carbine while holding it sideways.
*Shansi Type 17: Big Mama gets her awesome on by shooting up some Dwarf Gekko drones with her Type 17 pistol.
*MP7A1: Isn't there a PMC in Act 2 carrying this weapon who is distracted by a Playboy Magazine?
Sometimes funny screenshots make entries on this wiki all the more entertaining to read. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 13:09, 4 June 2011 (CDT)

*Might try that
*Almost certainly going to do something like that
*When does he hold it sideways, again?
*Yes
*Yes

Also, totally going to show how you can kill a Gekko with the SVD. Just a note: you don't have to call him Old Snake in every caption. The game only calls him that occasionally and he's "Snake" the rest of the time, and it's not like this is MGS1 and there's two people potentially called "Snake" (even in that case, they always call him Snake and his brother Liquid, so there's only minimal potential for confusion). I could see there being some issues with what to call Big Boss in 3, but this guy is still Snake. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:06, 6 June 2011 (CDT)

:I call him "Old Snake" because that's the name above his lifebar, and because that name clearly refers to him in the MGS4 time period. Of course, if you really want to be pedantic, it could be argued that Liquid Snake and Solid Snake should have called each other Liquid and Solid instead of Liquid and Snake (I think the latter combination was chosen because it sounds less silly). If you prefer to just call him Snake in the article, feel free to change that part pack. And Old Snake holds his M4A1 carbine sideways once when engaging the Pieuvre Armement PMCs who are taking Naomi away after headshotting Vamp. Another US Marine aboard the Missouri holds his M4A1 Carbine while trembling with fear as the Dwarf Gekkos execute a boarding action right outside the Missouri's bridge. That's all I can remember right now. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 22:37, 6 June 2011 (CDT)

Oh, and if you want to show the Vulcan Cannons on the Missouri battleship, shouldn't you include the dramatic close-up shot of its CIWS cannons firing like hell trying to intercept the swarm of anti-ship missiles launched from Outer Haven? The one available now only shows the CIWS cannons in a distant shot. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 21:58, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

:The one you're thinking of is a rather dull closeup of the installation from the ''rear'', I wanted this one because it shows the main guns and looks awesome. The Phalanx shots are exclusively taken to show off ''Missouri'', the installations can piss off. :P [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:15, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

Incidentally

[[Image:MGS4-M61-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Ray should not have been allowed to use the hydrocutter as it's opening attack. >:( Also, just noticed that half the "Street Fighter" attacks use the beak to grab Ray, even though it's where Snake is sitting and at least two of them would clearly kill him. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:08, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

== Question ==

Do real suppressors degrade like in MGS3 and MGS4? I think not, or at least it's ''very'' exaggerated in these game. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 11:50, 6 June 2011 (CDT)
:old style wipe suppressors do degrade over time. Maxim type supressors and supressors designed after the 1960s don't degrade. You will have to clean them out after combat load but with the lenght of most computer games it should not be an issue as there isn't the time for junk to build up to the point where the supressor will fail. Basically if you take the time to clean you equipment every so often things should't go bad. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 21:32, 6 June 2011 (CDT)
::Thank you. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 21:45, 6 June 2011 (CDT)
:Yep, suppressors in this game are another problem with its realism. The wipe-style suppressors in MGS3 would indeed degrade, sometimes after as low as 5 to 10 shots. Modern suppressors can last for thousands of rounds of semiautomatic fire, but less if fully-automatic fire is used.
:In reality, detachable suppressors fitted to weapons with supersonic ammunition (Drebin doesn't sell subsonic versions of normally supersonic ammunition, such as 5.56mm NATO, 7.62mm NATO, etc.) would not be as stealthy as depicted, especially at the ranges you fight at in this game. Try dropping a phone book from a height of 5 feet (or 150 cm in metric) onto a hard floor that is not covered by a rug or carpet--that's close to what even the best suppressors can do. At most of the ranges you shoot at in this game, real people would definitely notice (if not necessarily know where you are) and would immediately trigger a caution phase unless your first shot killed someone who was all by his lonesome. Suppressors can't deal with the sonic boom caused by supersonic ammunition, either, which can alert people. This is why the quietest suppressed weapons use subsonic ammunition (such as .45 ACP, or Russian 9x39mm ammo, etc.), or a special integral suppressor (like that on the MP5SD2) that slows supersonic ammunition down to subsonic speeds. Even that doesn't do anything for the clacking noises caused by the cycling of a (semi)automatic weapon's action, which is why the tranquilizer pistols in MGS2, 3, and 4 all use slide locks to eliminate that.
:Another problem is that suppressors, by slowing down the hot gas from fired rounds, cause a gun to overheat faster (because the slowed gas has more time to impart its heat to the weapon). Again, this is generally not a problem unless you forgo all fire discipline and keep firing in full auto; then you might have reason to detach an overheated suppressor and put a new one in place. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 22:08, 6 June 2011 (CDT)
Last ime I helped put rounds through a MP5 with a detachable supressor it took a bit for the supressor to cool enough that it could be removed from the barrel. Of course we put 120 rounds through it with mostly magazine dumps as we were just testing the guns funtion.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 22:36, 6 June 2011 (CDT)

Thanks guys. Well a suppressor is not meant to suppress gun fire so people in the same room can't hear it, it's meant so people in the whole building and in the city outside the building can't hear it. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 12:46, 7 June 2011 (CDT)

:Oops, forgot to mention that another way to remove the "clack-clack" sounds of a firearm's action (which can be louder than a suppressed gun's muzzle blast if the suppressor is good enough), aside from slide locks. Any type of round cycling that needs to be manually operated (such as bolt action, pump-action, etc.) will eliminate that sound. Too bad the DSR-1 couldn't be suppressed in this game; combined with its bolt action you'd get a very powerful, quiet, and lethal counterpart to the Mosin Nagant tranq rifle. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 00:45, 10 June 2011 (CDT)

== Just checking something ==

Of the M4, Drebin says "The barrel's free floating, of course." Now, you can see from the shot of Snake firing that even the ''handguard'' isn't free-floating, but isn't it a contradiction in terms for a direct impingement rifle to have a free-floating barrel since the barrel ''has'' to be touching something other than the reciever, namely the gas tube? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:08, 12 June 2011 (CDT)
:I hear of free-floating barrels on AR-15s all the time, I think "free-floating" means nothing but the receiver (and the gas tube) is holding the barrel in place. At least, that's what I know. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 13:36, 12 June 2011 (CDT)
It could be a bit of "Kojima nonsense" that snuck its way into the script (kind of like how Drebin claims the PMCs love to use the M4A1 Carbine, when in fact none of them do, and the game gives you the impression that Drebin is just foisting off old, obsolete stock onto Old Snake). After all, are we really supposed to believe that Fatman from Metal Gear Solid 2 built his first atomic bomb(!) at age 10? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 13:56, 12 June 2011 (CDT)
::I guess it could also be a translation error of some kind, since there's a few of those knocking around; I've just got to the first case of them mangling a symmetrical sentence by having Naomi alternate "fate" and "destiny" rather than just saying "it" the second time. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:41, 14 June 2011 (CDT)
:Or it could be Kojima's notoriously inconsistent stance on the realism/unrealism scale, especially when it comes to weaponry. First in MGS2 they let us render any enemy limb useless in a single lethal weapon hit (a feature that never returned), but in that same game they let us use the Stinger Missile Launcher indoors (even though that kind of weapon would cause a cave-in or flooding in the Plant chapter). And now they ask us to believe that in some scenes, professional PMC operators can't hit Snake when he's in spitting distance (such as after he shoot Vamp in the head in South America). That scene might have worked if he was hiding some distance away using Octocamo, though. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 21:07, 14 June 2011 (CDT)

Oh, and one more thing about the M4A1 in this game; why would you need to have a free-floating barrel on an automatic carbine? Wouldn't it just be simpler to insert a longer barrel, which would increase both accuracy and the bullet's effective range? Or, if you have the resources, you could always use better rounds (like the real life Mk 262) which have both longer effective range and accuracy than the standard 5.56mm NATO rounds in service now. That speech of Drebin's just makes him look like a "used car salesman"--it reeks of hucksterism. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 10:04, 21 June 2011 (CDT)

== Unknown pistol ==

Any idea what this is in Johnny Sasaki's leg holster? USP, maybe?

[[Image:MGS4-UnknownPistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Unknown]]

[[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:26, 14 June 2011 (CDT)

:Wow, even I'm a bit stumped, it's almost featureless. o_0 - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:12, 14 June 2011 (CDT)

::I was going by the features it doesn't have, more. It's got a horizontal base to the grip while holstered, which rules out any 1911-based pistol, but it doesn't have a beavertail bigger than the one on an actual beaver, so it can't be a Desert Eagle. It's obviously not any pistol that's available in the game unless it's a very small Mark 23, and a very small Mark 23 is called a USP. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:25, 15 June 2011 (CDT)

Also, am I hideously mistaken or is the Mk. 46 Mod 1 actually a Mod 0? The handguard doesn't look right for a Mod 1. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:01, 15 June 2011 (CDT)

:Based on what the model looks like it could be a featureless USP or P226 (it's too small for a Mark 23), but without the said "features" it's almost impossible tell what it is. It could also be just a generic "holster stuffer". :P (P.S. what's the deference between the Mk. 46 Mod 1 and the Mod 0, I've only seen the Mod 0?) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:59, 15 June 2011 (CDT)

::The forearm of the Mod 1 lacks the rail at the 12 o'clock position (FN Herestal has pictures of the Mod 1 on their website [http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/family.asp?fid=FNF055&gid=FNG008]). There's probably other differences, but either Google is failing me, or there's no info about on the Mod 1 upgrades on the entire internet. --[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 18:48, 15 June 2011 (CDT)

:::[http://www.fnhusa.com/mil/products/firearms/model.asp?fid=FNF059&gid=FNG008&mid=FNM0039 FN USA] says "improved receiver pins, a feed tray with retention pawls and a vented handguard with improved heat shield and three MIL-STD 1913 rails." Now, I've checked the reload animation and you can see it's got a 12-o-clock rail on the handguard, so it's a Mod 0. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:05, 16 June 2011 (CDT)

::Also, of those two it'd have to be the USP, the SIG would have two screws visible holding the grips on. What I can tell you is the shape is intentional; it's ''not'' the same model used in PMC holsters; the ones I checked have a diagonal base to the grip and therefore are obviously supposed to be a GSR. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:34, 16 June 2011 (CDT)

Just to add these:

[[Image:MGS4-FROG-Holster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FROG holster weapon, probably Five-seveN]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PMC Holster weapon, clearly GSR.]]
[[Image:MGS4-UnknownPistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another angle on Johnny's weapon, and one where they seem to have forgotten to add that delightful skidmark to his trousers, too.]]

Incidentally, ID'ing this one will take us up to 76 weapons with only one not ID'd (the land mine). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:25, 16 June 2011 (CDT)

But it doesn't have the finger tip-shaped slots at the mag well to be a USP ether... In the last pic of Johnny the pistol now looks like a stubby Desert Eagle because of the way the grip looks. :/ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:53, 16 June 2011 (CDT)

:Well, there should be some closer shots of it when I finally get off my ass and get around to recording and capping stage 3, there's a lot of closeups of the Rat Patrol members at the end of that one that should settle it if it actually is something. Interestingly, Meryl also has that holster as part of her uniform, but hers is empty (Deagle the first has a horizontal chest holster). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 16:24, 16 June 2011 (CDT)

[[Image:MGS4-UnknownPistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

Think this is the best shot you're likely to get. Now, I'm going to bed, I just spent hours recording the entire third Act and at least half of the fourth and it's 3am. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 20:57, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

:Looks kinda like a Desert Eagle with the beavertail milled down, wow this is hard. :/ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 23:27, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

::Seems it's actually a Mark 23, since Raiden's character weapon (aside from a heap of pointy things) is a Mark 23, and he has the same holster. Holster looks to be very similar to [http://airsoftbb4u.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=402 one of these]. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 19:10, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

:::You could be right, but still looks off from a Mark 23, I see a metal tang on the grip like the Desert Eagle. Err. -_- [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 21:04, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

::::Might just be a mistake in the model. It's certainly supposed to be a Mark 23 (it's Raiden's only gun in multi), but since they never draw them (unlike FROGs and PMCs, who do draw their sidearms if they're disarmed), there was probably no obligation to actually put a drawable gun in there. I can't remember if Johnny pulls out his sidearm when they're defending the door or not, I'll have to see if they'll actually settle it for us or not. Otherwise we'll just have to say it's an inaccurate Mark 23. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:09, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

:::::Johnny does use his sidearm there. He uses a GSR. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:11, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

== Note about the M4 and the "big PMCs" ==
They ''did'' use the M4 in early builds of the game [http://ranger.gamebanana.com/img/ss/srends/thm__2863-.jpg] [http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o58/God-of-Reapers/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-p-1.jpg], but it was changed to the Mark 17 at some point for some unknown reason. Snake even got ''his'' M4 by taking it from a PMC in an early trailer. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:11, 29 June 2011 (CDT)
:Regarding the Patriot, wouldn't it fall under the same hideously ill-defined "PDW" label as the XM8 Compact? It does rather seem that PDW just stands for whatever your marketing department wants it to: HK definately called the XM8 compact a PDW in sales fluff, and invented the term because they didn't want to call their compact MP5K the MP5 Kurz Kurz as far as I can tell. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:14, 30 June 2011 (CDT)

:On the subject of the M4: the article mentions that the handguard isn't free floating like Drebin says. However, I'm pretty sure the rail is carbine length KAC URX which is free floating. Also, the MP5K-PDW isn't a compact MP5K; it's an MP5K with a stock added. --[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 09:01, 30 June 2011 (CDT)

::Look at the shot of Snake firing the M4 into the camera and you can see there's a circular cap on the front of the rail handguard which contacts the barrel: a KAC URX doesn't have such a cap, which is why it's free-floating while this one isn't. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 15:42, 30 June 2011 (CDT)

PDW is indeed something of a term that is a bit too nebulous. I've even heard the term applied to the select-fire variant of the Mauser C96 being described as a PDW since it could mount a shoulder stock and used ammo that was "armour piercing." Still, the question I raised earlier on this page as to the point of mounting a free-floating handguard onto an M4A1 carbine remains--isn't a free-floating barrel mainly for sniper or designated marksmen weapons, not for CQB full-auto weapons? And wouldn't greater long-distance accuracy be achieved more simply by using a longer barrel or enhanced ammunition? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 13:09, 30 June 2011 (CDT)

:With regard to free-float rails: there's more to it than just accuracy. Keeping the rails from contacting the barrel means that any accessories mounted on the weapon will be affected less by the vibrations that occur during firing. This helps keep vertical grips and the like from coming loose, and any optics/lasers/IR designators mounted on the forearm will have an easier time retaining their zero. --[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 15:12, 30 June 2011 (CDT)

Well, that does make a bit more sense, but it still sounds like the sort of thing a National Army wouldn't issue--though it wouldn't be out of place among civilians or Private Military Contractors. Don't National Armies train for accurate semiautomatic fire whenever possible from anything that isn't an LMG, and if you fire enough fully-automatic rounds to affect the zero of accessories mounted on the handguard, doesn't that mean you're doing something wrong? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:07, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

== XM8 Compact ==

Why is the XM8 Compact under the SMG/PDW section? PDW or not, 5.56x45mm should go to the Assault rifles. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 07:37, 1 July 2011 (CDT)

:Yeah, I was considering moving it to go with the Patriot. I'll do that tomorrow assuming someone doesn't beat me to it, and I'll remove "PDW" from the other heading since it's such a vague, useless class of weapons that seems to include everything gun company marketing departments feel like including from SMGs firing pistol rounds to compact assault rifles. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:37, 1 July 2011 (CDT)

I'm not sure about that; I think PDW is still useful to describe select-fire SCHV (small caliber, high velocity) two-handed firearms using proprietary rounds purpose-built for armour-piercing properties, like the 5.7x28mm, the 4.6x30mm, the 6.5x25mm, etc. that aren't (machine) pistols. Having said that, I would agree about how the label can be abused (the MP5K-PDW should have just received an "A" designation such as the MP5KA6 or the like). Still, I have to wonder if Akiba was given the XM8 Compact to show that Meryl "wears the pants" in their relationship--at a 9-inch barrel length, the XM8 (ultra)compact carbine is shorter than Meryl's long-barrelled Desert Eagle, which is 10 inches long.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 10:08, 1 July 2011 (CDT)

:The trouble I have with the PDW label is either (a) it just means SMG so there's no point including it or (b) it includes all the stupid things that are called PDWs but aren't SMGs. Sure, the SCHV rounds aren't all used by pistols so not all PDWs are ''technically'' SMGs, but all PDW rounds are dimensioned like pistol cartridges and most have pistols designed and / or manufactured to shoot them anyway. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 04:42, 3 July 2011 (CDT)

The funny thing is, if you really want to be pedantic, an SMG is really just a select-fire pistol-caliber carbine. In my view the PDW label is still useful for a narrower class of weapons than most users of the label think, and should only be used if the weapon meets all of the following characteristics.

*Proprietary PDW rounds are designed from the ground up as armour-piercing rounds (piercing Level IIIA ballistic armour or lower), and resemble miniaturized assault rifle ammunition (by virtue of its dimensions and spitzer shape) rather than traditional pistol ammunition. So by this definition the PP-2000 would not be a PDW since it's still using 9x19mm rounds, just in an armour-piercing configuration.
*A stock and foregrip must be present on the weapon for it to be considered a PDW, since both simplify aiming (which is very important in a CQB situation). So a select-fire Five-seveN or C96 are still not PDWs (instead, they are just armour-piercing machine pistols) since it lacks the ability to have both of those features. An MP5K PDW has both a stock and foregrip but doesn't meet the first requirement, and is therefore just a compact SMG with a folding stock and small foregrip.
*A true PDW must have select-fire or fully-automatic fire capability, otherwise it just becomes a fancy carbine like the PS90.

You have to admit that PDW is a more convenient acronym than something like SCHV SMG or the like. We could just go with something like "AP (armour-piercing) SMG" but that would bring stuff like the PP-2000 back into the mix. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 21:27, 3 July 2011 (CDT)

::Actually, an SMG is a super-light machine gun firing a pistol round: remember the category comes from the first world war before the concept of an intermediate round even existed. And the problem is most users of the label include most companies that say their weapons are PDWs; there's such a huge number of bad examples and so few good ones that it isn't really worth using it, IMO. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 21:42, 3 July 2011 (CDT)

:My google-fu's rather weak right now, but aside from H&K marketing derivatives of the MP5 and XM8 as PDWs I don't know of companies that are marketing SMGs or compact assault rifles with the PDW label, when in fact they don't meet the requirements I outlined earlier. Maybe you could point me in the right direction? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 23:32, 6 July 2011 (CDT)

::Wikipedia says the Jatimatic was marketed as a PDW back when HK invented the term, and since the 5.7mm has realised its friends would still like it if it came out as a pistol round anything that fires that is basically a subgun in the normal sense of the term. Magpul's PDR Shirow-gun fires a full-sized 5.56mm, the Chinese QCW-05 fires the 5.8x21mm pistol round, the VBR-Belgium PDW fires the 7.92x24mm pistol round...It's fair to say most things called PDWs don't qualify in the strictest sense. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:00, 7 July 2011 (CDT)

:The "Shirow-gun"? And here I was thinking firearms designed for Ghost in the Shell at least made some sense, even if their service pistol caliber choice was a little iffy on the stopping power side (BTW, the Seburo Firearms page should not have been removed from this wiki). PDW rounds fired out of pistols seem a little iffy to me as well; if HK had to cancel its UCP for "inadequate ballistics in a pistol platform," what makes the Five-seveN/QSZ-92/VBR 7.92 Glock that much better? In any case, the Magpul PDR is just a compact bullpup carbine in 5.56mm NATO, and the 5.8x21mm round (how is this better than the 5.7x28mm round again?) is a miniaturized version of the Chinese 5.8x42mm assault rifle round, which makes it a PDW round. Maybe we could compromise and call them "CQDWs" for "Close Quarters Defensive Weapons" to show how they are meant to be stowed in "Close Quarters" and are most effective in CQB range as well, given their shorter cases compared to full-size assault rifle rounds? Making a poll on the forum asking whether or not the PDW label should be expunged from the site might be useful as well. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:23, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

::Again, though, I don't really see the point of using a label that's just going to cause a lot of confusion with not-examples and pseudo-examples. Anything that is categorised as a PDW in the strictest sense is basically an SMG firing AP ammunition. Not using the term rules out all the various pistols and assault rifles that would otherwise sneak into the SMG heading through the vague backdoor marked "PDW." It's sorta like having a category called "Dogs / mammals" next to one saying "cats" and expecting cats to not end up in the dog category. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:05, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

:I lol'ed at what you said about Akiba and Meryl. :D - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:15, 1 July 2011 (CDT)

Yep, then Akiba tries to "man up" by getting the Barrett M82A2, but then finds he can't "last long." He definitely would have lasted longer if he had gotten something capable of "sustained fire" instead, like the Mk. 46 Mod. 0 coupled with an FN P90 of his own, so either he or Meryl could use the LMG for covering fire while the other goes out to loot P90 magazines from dead FROG troopers and keep wreaking merry hell as long as possible. But no, Kojima had to saddle Akiba with an incredibly impractical Barrett M82A2 (only really useful for killing larger Gekko drones and annoying unmanned Metal Gear RAYs), his old XM8 Compact and a GSR. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:23, 1 July 2011 (CDT)

== The MAC-10 in this game ==

Is it an open bolt (the original version) or a closed bolt version? An open bolt version wouldn't need charging after reloading, and wouldn't need to be racked unless the trigger was held down after the last round fired (after which you'd just pull it back to ready the weapon). If the MAC-10 in this game were a closed bolt version, then you would need rack the bolt if you were loading from empty and would indeed eject a round if one were still in the chamber if you racked the bolt. If Old Snake is ejecting a round from the MAC-10 after a mid-magazine reload, then wouldn't it be a closed version? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 22:27, 6 July 2011 (CDT)

:I'd have to check. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:09, 7 July 2011 (CDT)

Another thing you might want to examine is the M60E4; it's still an open bolt weapon last I checked (partly because open bolt weapons run cooler than closed bolt ones, an advantage on an LMG since it means you don't have to change barrels as often). Also, is the M60E4 supposed to be the "very latest model" that the rebel in the Middle Eastern Militia Safe House was boasting about? It would make more sense than an HK21E, since some PMC machine gunners use the M60E4 and it is "the very latest model" of its kind. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:45, 7 July 2011 (CDT)

:Again, I'll check. In the latter case, I imagine the "very latest model" was probably supposed to be the XM8 LMG: it's the only version missing from the final game. Perhaps they gave the guy the HK21 instead because their playtesters would always kill him to get themselves a free 5.56mm machine gun with a built-in optic. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:30, 7 July 2011 (CDT)

Please do. Your considerable efforts on this page are much appreciated. But it wouldn't be the first time a game has used closed bolt versions of weapons that were originally open bolt; Rainbow Six Vegas 2 uses a closed bolt version of the MAC-11 machine pistol, for instance. And the XM8 LMG was always a strange one to me; while the other variants had good advantages for reliability and ease of use for their roles (since their sights didn't need zeroing, had more durable/reliable parts, along with infrared laser pointer/illuminators built into the sight), the XM8 LMG does not have a quick-swap barrel (unlike the M249, for instance) and is a closed bolt weapon which would make its heat buildup more problematic, despite the tougher barrel. In any case, all the game devs had to do to make the XM8 LMG would be to stick a Beta C-mag on the Marksman version of the XM8, since you can't use bipods in this game. The XM8 LMG would have been great in Johnathan's hands, and the standard carbine would then be given to Akiba. Even so, giving that boastful rebel an M60E4 would still require that you spend the money for accessories on a new game, so it wouldn't be as imbalanced as an XM8 LMG.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:34, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

== The "PMCs love the (M4)" line ==

In my edit I did NOT specify which voice track language I was referring to (for all I know, that line could also have been in the original JP version). What I was commenting on was how the recording for that scene was probably done before the decision was made to have the PMC guys use the SCAR-H rather than have them actually use the M4-type carbines (as seen in the preview images someone posted earlier). While not wrong to begin with, the fact that they didn't go back to re-do that scene based on the new weapon assignment leave me scratching my head. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 01:26, 7 July 2011 (CDT)

:Yeah, but it's hardly the only strange mistake made in that scene; Drebin also says it has a free-floating barrel even though there's clearly a circular end cap connecting the rail handguard to the barrel, and also that the US Army uses it even though in-game they don't. It's hard to say if it's something that used to be true, a mistake, or just Drebin playing salesman and hoping Snake doesn't notice the more obvious BS in his pitch. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:43, 7 July 2011 (CDT)

== Just found out something interesting... ==

HD remakes of all the previous games are apparently being released on PSN and possibly Live in November, so I'll hold out for them before screencapping those pages. Apparently they're going to sling in ''Peace Walker'' for PS3, too. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:15, 9 July 2011 (CDT

:Are they going to retexture MGS2 and MGS3 for this collection? I hope so, because MGS2 is horribly bland with its textures, far more than MGS3 was. I'd do MGS2 myself, I don't have a capture card and the PC version I have is not well programmed for PC graphics cards, so you often end up with a lot of graphical errors. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 11:48, 9 July 2011 (CDT)

::From the sounds of things it's going to be retextured MGS2, retextured MGS3 and probably retextured Twin Snakes running in the MGS4 engine. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:02, 9 July 2011 (CDT)

:::That sounds cool. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 13:53, 9 July 2011 (CDT)

Last I heard it was only for the X Box 360. Good news that it's being released on the PS3 as well. Might mean that we're going to see it on the PC (fingers crossed). --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:10, 9 July 2011 (CDT)

== Drebins Camo Trousers ==
hi guys, wondering if anyone can tell me that make/pattern drebins trousers are, i mean obviously they are desert but im not sure what brand.

[http://images.wikia.com/metalgear/images/c/ca/DrebinMGS4.jpg] --[[User:Sike|Sike]] 10:48, 14 July 2011 (CDT)

Pattern would be something like "desert tiger stripe" and there's a similar-looking set of trousers [http://www.tigerstripeproducts.com/original_desert_tiger_stripe.htm here]. His look to be bleached a bit lighter or something, but it's the same basic pattern. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:04, 14 July 2011 (CDT)

== A minor controversy over the Operator suicide scene ==

The English voice actor of Old Snake, David Hayter, caused a minor controversy among gaming journalists and the MGS fandom when he said he [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rH-cYUiogI didn't find Old Snake's reluctance to commit suicide to be believable]. Now that the relevant screenshot is in this wiki entry, I thought it deserved some explanation. In David Hayter's words, he says ''". . . Snake would put a bullet in, and put [the gun] in his mouth and just pop himself, like he's killed--he's killed how many countless thousands of people, and he's going to shake because he's going to kill himself? I didn't agree with that at all and begged them to change it . . . ."'' --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 22:05, 29 July 2011 (CDT)

:Hm, I don't really buy that. He's killed ''other'' people, sure, but confronting the end of your own existence and what might come next isn't going to be easy unless you're incredibly secure in your convictions as to what will happen (and Snake hardly strikes me as devoutly religious) or too stupid to comprehend that's what you're doing. It's not like it's a spur of the moment "I have to do this" thing, after all. Mind you, I really don't think we needed to see him going down on the Operator for quite as long as he did. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:45, 30 July 2011 (CDT)

Even so, I think he's used to fearlessly facing death, even if it's virtually certain (such as when he faced Metal Gear REX before Grey Fox intervened in MGS1, or during his hopeless duel with Fortune in MGS2). And "going down on the Operator"--that's a nice wordplay. Still, I think it's a little disappointing how what comes next is available at any difficulty--it would be more of an incentive to play on harder difficulties if you only got the complete scene after doing something such as completing the Boss Extreme difficulty or getting a Big Boss emblem. Otherwise, you'd only see:

*Old Snake smoking a last cig before fading to black and the last gunshot after finishing Liquid Easy.
*The scene where he sucks his gun off (again fading to black with the last gunshot) after finishing Solid Normal.
*A short cut after the final gunshot showing the gun and its smoking barrel in Old Snake's gnarled hand, fading to black after finishing Big Boss Hard.
*And the complete ending scene after finishing The Boss Extreme.

It would also have been a nice touch if you got to see the ghostly forms of all the people you killed throughout the game or the people Old Snake couldn't save (which means, at a minimum, Liquid Ocelot, Naomi and Big Mama) surrounding Old Snake in the cemetery as he puts the gun in his mouth, as he will join them in death very soon. Such a scene would be a nice reference to the Sorrow's River in MGS3. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 13:42, 30 July 2011 (CDT)

*I don't know, facing almost certain death is different to facing ''actual'' certain death, especially when it's for something as abstract as the human race rather than something as concrete as someone right in front of you. Also, in both those cases his other option was being killed by the thing he was facing, so he ''didn't'' pick the "certain death" option. Also, given Naomi's record for telling the truth, he's probably worried that shooting himself would just make the bullet ricochet off his superior genes, kill the person who was ''actually'' going to cure the disease and overpenetrate to also kill the world's most adorable kitten which was behind that guy. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:18, 31 July 2011 (CDT)

I think the best real world explanation on why Snake's Operator locked back when he had no mag was that he could have possibly pressed the slide release up and hence locking it back by accident. I've seen people accidentally lock the slide back when they accidentally push the slide release up with a loaded mag in. It could have just been the mistake of the animator that they drew a mag follower when there shouldn't have been a mag inside the gun [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:56, 25 September 2011 (CDT)

== Operator ==

I think Snake's main 1911 is closer to a TRP Operator than a standard MC Operator. It has a Target cut rear sight, full length guide rod, extended magazine well and front strap checkering. Standard MEUSOC 1911s like the MC Operator and the Kimber Warrior don't have these features. I know it's not a huge difference but I think it may be worth mentioning.
:I just realized that TRPs are usually bushingless. I think it's more of a frankengun with features from both but I still think it's closer to the TRP so I changed the picture. Hope no one minds.
::I think we'll stick with the MC, it's heavily modified from either regardless of what it originally might have been. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:57, 31 August 2011 (CDT)

== screenshots ==

I've taken some screen shots from MGS4 of most of the guns from a side on view I've uploaded a few as an example. The first is snake loading a cartridge into the breech of the thor, the second you can see the compensator working on the G18C, the third is snake screaming Rambo style. [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:THOR_breech_load.jpg]] [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:G18C_working_compensator.jpg]] [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Rambo_Scream.jpg]]
I've got more like them if anyone wants me to upload them just want to see what you think. [[User:Whatmename|Whatmename]]

You couldn't have taken bigger screen shots? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:31, 2 October 2011 (CDT)

:<s>Certainly doable, yes. I'm going to be re-doing all the other shots when I have some time off work next month, I'll pick those up at the same time.</s> Edit: oh, wait, that wasn't Excalibur asking me to take bigger ones. Nevermind, I'll take bigger ones of those things, Whatmename, don't worry about uploading yours. Best that every shot comes from the same capture device and method, it makes the page look tidier. Besides, we don't really need side-on shots of most of the weapons since we've already got the inventory images for that. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:09, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

I think that screenshot from the G18C shows that the muzzle flash doesn't quite fit where the compensator port is supposed to be. I think the only video games I've seen that correctly emulate the compensated muzzle flash are Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1 and 2. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 22:21, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

== M4 Custom RAS ==

Regarding the confusion regarding the RAS on the M4 custom.

The in game RAS resembles two offerings from KAC, the Carbine RAS and the free floating RAS.
[http://www.knightarmco.com/mod_weapons_1.htm Knights ArmCo RAS]

The carbine RAS replaces the standard handguards and is secured with the default delta ring and end-cap.
The free floating RAS replaces the entire handguard, including the delta ring; replacing it with a visually distinctive locking ring. The end-cap in not employed.

The in-game model has the locking ring from the free-floating RAS but the end-cap from the carbine RAS.

IMHO this was done so that the game engine wouldn't have to render the interior surfaces for the RAS and barrel.

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

2011-10-25T23:36:21Z

Crimsonsguns:

[[Image:MGS4poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'' (2008)]]

''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'' is a 2008 stealth-action / third-person shooter video game directed by Hideo Kojima, developed by Kojima Productions and published by Konami. It concludes the saga of the character Solid Snake (now known as Old Snake). Set in the year 2014 following the events of the previous games, the storyline takes Snake through a series of warzones where rebels are fighting hired PMC soldiers as part of an ongoing "War Economy" engineered by a mysterious organization known as "The Patriots." Snake's mission is to uncover a plot by his old nemesis Liquid Snake, now seemingly reborn in the body of the gunman Revolver Ocelot, and set on bringing down the "System," an apparently invincible computer network which controls the world.

'''The following weapons can be seen in the video game ''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'':'''

'''Note: Spoilers are present in some weapon descriptions.'''

__TOC__ 

=Overview=

[[Image:MGS4-Intro.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Snake admires the place he's going to keep enough weaponry to outfit a company.]]
''Metal Gear Solid 4'' uses a split inventory system where the player character, Old Snake, can equip up to six weapons, which are then available using a quick-access menu; this is explained as Snake's "backpack," despite that he is not actually wearing one. The rest can be accessed via the pause menu, this swapping explained in-game as the TARDIS-like depths of Metal Gear Mark 2, a foot-tall robot which seemingly has no issues containing more or less every weapon on this page along with enough ammunition to destroy Belgium. Snake's currently equipped weapons each count their weight towards a total for all gear; heavy loads will cause his "stress" meter to rise faster when he moves around. Only weapons count towards weight; ammunition is treated as weighing nothing. This gets bizarre with disposable systems where each reload is a whole weapon in itself but all except the currently held one are treated as weightless "ammunition;" for example, only one of the fifty LAWs Snake can be carrying actually weighs anything for purposes of inventory weight.

Weapons can be found in the environment, but often feature biometric ID locks which prevent unauthorized use. To remove these, Snake can access a "gun launderer" by the name of Drebin and exchange points earned for the "war price" of repeatedly collected weapons, allowing him to purchase ammunition, buy new weapons and accessories, or unlock already collected ID-locked weapons for use. Drebin is explained as having an inside line to the "System" which controls the ID chips so he can replace existing chips with factory blanks (the process leading to the pun of the character called Drebin saying he sells "[[Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!, The|Naked Guns]]"), but in reality such an operative would quickly find himself driven out of business by rogue gunsmiths simply replacing the ID lock parts with the original mechanical ones and bypassing the "System" entirely.

The game removes the "Tactical Reload" option of previous games where unequipping and re-equipping a weapon would instantly reload it; weapons now actually have to be reloaded properly. The animations have an odd quirk: apparently between games, Snake has decided to start practicing the "Middle Eastern Technique" mentioned in ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' of always chambering a new round when reloading, even when performing a mid-magazine reload. Despite this being described as a pistol shooting technique, he does it with every weapon ''except'' pistols; they are correctly shown ejecting an unfired round when he does it unless the magazine was totally spent when he reloaded. This seems largely done to explain what happens to the "extra" round that was in the chamber.

The game features an accessory system for weapons, with certain guns able to be customised; this is rather inconsistent, with many weapons not able to receive any modifications at all while only a handful have more than one or two accessory points, the majority limited to either an optional suppressor, underbarrel launcher or taclight. The showcase of the system is Snake's signature "M4 Custom" rifle, which can accept the largest number of accessories of any weapon. Shotguns and most grenade launchers also feature multiple types of ammunition, and weapons typically feature selectable fire modes if they have them in real life.

Accessory tactical weapon lights are shown rather strangely in game; apparently Snake has a fundamentalist attitude towards light discipline and maintains it ''everywhere'', even in broad daylight. This means taclights will only be flashed on and off briefly regardless of what the player wants; the result is only really useful for briefly blinding guards if Snake points the light in their face at extremely close range.

=Handguns=

==Custom M1911==

Big Boss's highly customised [[M1911_pistol_series|M1911]] from [[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater|Operation Snake Eater]] can unlocked via entering a password. Being an unlockable "special" weapon, it deals more damage than the other .45 ACP handguns. The Custom M1911 can be fitted with its own unique degradable suppressor; it is not compatible with the ones for Snake's Springfield Operator.

[[Image:1911custom.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A reproduction of Big Boss' custom M1911 - .45ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-M1911Cus-HQ.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"1911 Custom" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-1911Cus-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads Big Boss' custom M1911, resisting his genes telling him to first have a three-minute CODEC call about how awesome it is.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mark22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In a painting in Big Mama's church, Big Boss brandishes his custom M1911.]]

==EAA Tanfoglio Thor .45-70==

The Thor .45-70 is a highly accurate and incredibly powerful single-shot bolt action pistol (referred to in the description as a "hand rifle") that must be manually chambered after every firing. It is Liquid Ocelot's signature weapon, both in singleplayer and multiplayer; in the singleplayer story he only actually fires it once, and his outfit does not display it openly as previous game did with his revolvers. It can be unlocked and used by the player by either earning the Foxhound emblem or entering a code, and comes with a unique red dot sight; this cannot be removed, and the weapon has no other customisation options.

[[Image:THOR .45-70.jpg|thumb|400px|none|EAA Tanfoglio Thor - .45-70]]
[[Image:MGS4-Thor.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Thor .45-70 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Thor-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Facing Snake on the non-existent Volta River, Ocelot pulls his Thor from an unspecified location inside his coat...]]
[[Image:MGS4-Thor-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...And prepares to fire the only shot he ever fires from it. Though in spite of his line, not at Snake.]]

==FN Five-seveN==

The [[FN Five-seveN]] is the standard sidearm for Liquid Ocelot's elite FROG special operations unit (FROG standing for absolutely nothing), and is also one of the weapons used by Dwarf Gekko drones. It can be bought from Drebin, taken from a destroyed Dwarf Gekko, or taken from a FROG by disarming them of their primary weapon and then killing them or knocking them out. Since it shares ammunition with the fairly common P90, it is unlikely to have problems with ammunition, and it has a large magazine. However, it cannot mount a suppressor, the only option being a tactical light. The presence of the weapon is a reference to ''Metal Gear: Ghost Babel'' and the ''Ac!d'' games, where it is Solid Snake's primary weapon.

[[Image:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN Five-seveN - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Five-Seven.jpg|thumb|601px|none|FN Five-seveN on the item menu.]]

==Glock 18C==

The [[Glock#Glock_18|Glock 18C]] can be purchased from Drebin, has a 33-round magazine, and oddly enough, is the only 9x19mm handgun in the game. It can be customised with a tactical flashlight. The weapon is a reference to ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', where Fatman's weapon of choice (aside from bombs) was a Glock 18, albeit with an 19-round magazine instead. This handgun is also available in multiplayer.

[[Image:Pistol Austrian Glock 18 with 31 round magazine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 18C - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Glock.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Glock 18C on the item menu.]]

==Heckler & Koch Mark 23 Phase II Prototype==

The [[Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0|Heckler & Koch Mark 23 Phase II Prototype]] can be found in the game in Act 4; its status as Solid Snake's previous handgun in the original ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' is noted. It is also used in the Raven Sword PMC commercial in the introduction, and is seen in the holsters of Meryl's Rat Patrol soldiers and Raiden. The SOCOM presented in ''MGS1'', ''MGS2'' and ''MGS4'' is the Phase II model prototype submitted for trials in the USSOCOM Offensive Handgun Weapon System (OHWS) competition around the later part of 1991, and not the actual production model Mark 23 Mod 0. It is distinguished by small cocking serrations on the front of the slide, which the production model, Mod 0, does not have. The Mark 23 mounts the distinctive blocky LAM under the barrel as in previous games, and can also be fitted with a degradable suppressor. The Mark 23 is the subject of a number of the game's "Easter eggs," including being found almost exactly where it was in the original game. This is the only place it can be found in the campaign, and it is never available from Drebin; the only other way to unlock it is via a cheat code.

This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is also the only firearm that the special character Raiden is equipped with.

[[Image:SOCOM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Tokyo-Marui '''Airsoft replica''' of the H&K Mark 23 Phase II Prototype - (fake) .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk23.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Mark 23 Phase II Prototype on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk23-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Old Snake:''' ''"Just like old times . . . "'' Old Snake holds his Mark 23 Phase II Prototype as he stands in front of Shadow Moses Island's tank hangar and remembers the good old days.]]
[[Image:MGS4-UnknownPistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny Sasaki (who actually uses a GSR) and the other members of the Rat Patrol have "holster stuffers" that resemble Mark 23, save for Meryl who for reasons best known to herself just wears the empty holster. The model used is fairly inaccurate for a Mark 23, having a metallic tang like a Desert Eagle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk23-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raiden uses the same holster model except in black, though he's always too busy using his sword and heap of knives to bother with his handgun. His cybernetic body makes him look pretty cool until you get to his feet which have high heels for reasons only known to Konami.]]

==IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX==

The [[Desert Eagle]], simply called the "D.E." is used by Meryl Silverburgh ingame. It can be purchased from Drebin, or occasionally picked up from the "Dwarf Gekko" drones (who amazingly have the strength to fire it accurately from one undersized mechanical hand). A 10-inch barrelled variant with a scope can be unlocked, and is also used by Meryl. A bizarre glitch is that when Snake reloads the long-barrel Desert Eagle, rather than just holding a magazine he is holding an entire second gun in his other hand. Additionally, there is a second glitch where Meryl's slide will lock back and she will not play the reload animation. There may or may not be a round loaded when the second glitch happens; her remaining rounds can't be seen, so it is hard to tell.

This weapon is available in the game's multiplayer mode, Metal Gear Online. Players using Meryl's character online who equip a standard Desert Eagle in the pistol slot and the long-barrelled variant in the primary weapon slot will allow her to switch from one gun to another when the first is empty, without ever pausing to reload.

[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|400px|none|IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX - .50 AE]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Desert Eagle on the item menu. Note Magnum Research's new barrel with a Picatinny rail. The rail cannot be used on this version, however.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Meryl's special 10"-barrelled Desert Eagle with a scope on the item menu.]]
[[File:MerylDEMGS4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl aims her Desert Eagle at Old Snake upon first encountering him. Despite likely wearing her balaclava up until this point, she removes it and does not use it for the rest of the game. The Meryl special character in multiplayer, however, can remove and re-don her balaclava at any time, as can Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl holds her regular Desert Eagle in the Advent Palace. She tends to use the normal one indoors, saving the 10-inch scoped version for outdoors. This relatively sensible choice doesn't really mitigate the bigger issue of using a pair of hand-cannons in the first place.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Desert Eagle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He then re-Deagles his long-barrelled Desert Eagle. This error is most likely caused by forgetting to separate the magazine and weapon objects in the game's files. Meryl's character in Metal Gear Online does not possess this glitch when reloading this weapon on its own.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first sight of Meryl's specially modified Desert Eagle is, oddly enough, on a monitor in the back of Drebin's Stryker.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|By only carrying two Desert Eagles, Meryl fails "rifleman" on two counts, though she might make a passable futuristic pistolier. Note the unusual holster necessitated by her 10"-barrel Desert Eagle's scope mount.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the "System" shuts down for the first time, everyone except Johnny Sasaki suffers a psychological breakdown; this includes Meryl, who drops her long-barrel Desert Eagle as she collapses.]]
[[File:MGS4DesertEagleLongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Screaming Mantis forces Meryl to hold her long-barrelled Desert Eagle to her head, which is a reference to the original [[Metal Gear Solid]] when Psycho Mantis did the same thing to Meryl.]]
[[File:MGS4DE-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl fires her Desert Eagle at FROG soldiers inside Outer Haven.]]
[[File:MGS4DE-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl and Johnny fire a brace of handguns at the FROGs, Meryl wielding her standard and long barrelled Desert Eagles, while Johnny fires a Desert Eagle he got from Drebin along with his SIG-Sauer GSR.]]

== Luger P08 "Artillery Model" ==

During the bizarre live-action introduction sequences, one of the channels shows a PMC advertisement with two people in Middle Eastern-style robes hovering in mid-air as the camera circles around them. The one in white is armed with a long-barrelled "Artillery Model" [[Luger P08]].

[[Image:LugerP08Artillery.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm. This is the long barrelled "Artillery" model of the Luger P08 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|One of the two strange combatants during the intro's PMC commercial holds up her long-barrelled Luger P08.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Luger, with the toggle lock visible.]]

==Makarov PMM==

The [[Makarov PM#Makarov PMM|Makarov PMM]] is used by the rebel "mark" Snake has to track during the third Act, and can be purchased from Drebin. It is also the sidearm of the Paradise Lost resistance group as a whole, though they are only seen using it in cutscenes. There is little to be said for it; it uses uncommon ammunition, cannot be customised or suppressed, and really seems to only be in the game to give the rebels in Act 3 a suitably Eastern European sidearm.

[[Image:Makarov PMM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Makarov PMM - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Makarov PMM on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Paradise Lost member draws his PMM as Snake enters their safehouse.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Makarov isn't exactly a Walther PPK, but then Snake isn't exactly James Bond, either.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Revisiting the Blast Furnace on Shadow Moses in Act 4, Snake takes on the army of Dwarf Gekko which now live there. Despite the name, the area does not actually contain a blast furnace: perhaps "Two Pools of Molten Metal Room" didn't have the same ring to it.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Makarov PMM.]]

== Mk22 Mod 0 "Hush Puppy" ==

In the third Act, a painting of Big Boss brandishing his M1911 Custom with his Mk22 Mod 0 (Navy modified [[Smith & Wesson Model 39]]) holstered is briefly focused on.

[[Image:Mk22 Mod 0.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mk22 Mod 0 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mark22.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Big Boss brandishes his M1911 Custom, with his Mark 22 holstered.]]

==PSS==

The [[PSS Silent Pistol|PSS]] can be found in several areas throughout the game or bought from Drebin; Drebin seems to have an odd fondness for this weapon, and it commands a premium price when found. It uses 6-round magazines with special "silent" 7.62x42mm ammunition, making it a lethal counterpart to the MK. 2 tranquilizer pistol (neither has a degradable suppressor).

[[Image:Pistol Russian PSS in 7.62x41mm SP-4 special purpose noiseless cartridge.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PSS Silent Pistol - 7.62x42mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|PSS silent pistol on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Literally two dozen yards from the end of the first Act, Snake uses his PSS Silent Pistol to make a Praying Mantis soldier silent.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The threat dealt with, he reloads his weapon.]]

=="Race Gun"==

The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racegun Race Gun] is based on Strayer Voigt Inc's 1911-styled double stack pistols; it is not even close to a modern high-end race gun, with only the choice of ammunition really distinguishing it as anything unusual. The gun holds 19 rounds in 9x23mm Winchester which is a moderately powered pistol cartridge; the game's version, for reasons which are never particularly apparent, uses rounds lightly loaded with smokeless powder, providing barely enough force to cycle the gun's mechanism. In game terms, this means the low-powered bullets will ricochet off hard surfaces and can be used for the "trick shots" showcased by Revolver Ocelot with his Colt Single Action Army in previous games; the result is basically just a gimmick gun for showing off, and is useless in practical terms thanks to its low damage stats (which appropriately reflect the stopping power of such underloaded ammunition). Once the game is completed at least once, the pistol will be unlocked automatically. The Race Gun cannot be customised.

[[Image:SVI_Infinity.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Strayer Voigt Inc Infinity pistol - 9x23mm Winchester]]
[[Image:MGS4-Racegun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Race Gun" on the item menu.]]

==Ruger Mk. II==

An integrally suppressed, manually operated fictional variant of the [[Ruger Mk II Pistol]], that fires tranquilizer rounds and has grips with a built-in laser sight and what appears to be a carbon-fibre barrel / upper receiver. It is given to Solid Snake by Otacon early in the game. After the game is completed, it is also able to fire fictional "Emotion" darts which induce one of the game's four psychological states (Cry, Laugh, Rage and Scream) in the target before knocking them out. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger Mk II pistol with professional Ciener Suppressor - .22 LR. This is a classic Silenced Pistol and this pistol has been seen in several motion pictures]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Mk. 2 Pistol" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Ruger Mk. II is presented to Snake using Metal Gear Mk. II's manipulator, Otacon seemingly having decided to give Snake two Mk. IIs for the price of one. Note laser sight grips.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the bolt of his custom Ruger Mk. II. This weapon is the successor to ''MGS2'' and ''MGS3's'' tranquilizer guns, and as in those games is manually operated.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After giving a Praying Mantis PMC soldier a hard-earned rest, Snake reloads his Ruger Mk. II.]]

==Shansi Type 17==

Used by Big Mama, this is a Chinese made version of the [[Mauser C96]], chambered for .45 ACP ammunition. The Type 17 can be fired in semi-auto or, incorrectly, full-auto (the real Type 17 never had select-fire capability), and uses a 10-round fixed magazine loaded with a single 10-round stripper clip. It lacks any customisation options (not even able the option to mount its well-known stock) and also cannot be reloaded until it is totally empty. It can be unlocked by earning the Hound emblem at the end of the game, or through entering a code. While this is the weapon Big Mama used in her previous guise as Eva in ''Metal Gear Solid 3'', it is not the same Type 17, since that one was lost during the motorcycle chase. Big Mama uses this weapon to destroy three Dwarf Gekko drones which manage to infiltrate her European hideout.

[[Image:C96-10.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Shansi Type 17 with unfired rounds and 5-round stripper clips - .45 ACP. The game version uses a single 10-rounder, common for other C96 versions, but the Chinese copies were usually issued with 5-rounders which allowed them to be reloaded once five or more rounds had been fired.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Shansi.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Type 17 on the item menu. Note the undersized fire-selector borrowed from the [[Mauser C96#Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer|Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer]] above and to the right of the trigger; the Shansi Type 17 in reality is not select-fire and thus has no such switch.]]
[[File:MGS4ShansiType17-0.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Mama continues to use the method of "Bandit Shooting" that she utilised in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'', turning the gun sideways to clear rooms in a horizontal sweep. This is probably the only way to take the impractical "Gangsta" style shooting and make it practical.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Shansi-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After taking out three Dwarf Gekko drones, Big Mama strikes a pose with her Shansi Type 17.]]

==SIG-Sauer GSR==

The [[M1911 pistol series|SIG-Sauer GSR]] is the standard sidearm for all four of the game's Private Military Companies, and is also used by the small "Dwarf Gekko" drones. Any PMC soldier disarmed of his primary weapon will draw his GSR; the weapon can also be purchased from Drebin or found in a side-room in the first Act. The GSR uses the common .45 ACP round, but is inferior to Snake's default Springfield Operator due to being unable to mount a suppressor (though it does have the advantage of a slightly higher magazine capacity compared to the Operator).

This weapon is available in multiplayer, and if the "Drebin Points" option is not enabled, the GSR will become the only lethal pistol available to players who are not using unique storyline characters.

[[Image:SIG-Sauer GSR M1911.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG-Sauer GSR - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SIG-Sauer GSR on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Investigating a group of dead PMC soldiers in a side-room of the rebel safehouse in Act 1, Snake finds a discarded GSR on the floor.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun rack in Drebin's Stryker includes two GSRs, two unloaded Glock 18Cs, and in the rack further down a pair of SCAR-H CQC rifles and two copies of Snake's M4A1 Custom; beyond them is a barely-visible AK-102 and a pair of LAWs. Several of these weapons are low-detail since they are part of the Stryker model rather than copies of the normal model. The two boxes between the pistol and rifle racks are the generic model for "custom parts" and are used for both weapon accessories and accessory weapons such as the GP-30 and Masterkey.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the system breaks down at the end of the first Act, a PMC soldier equipped with a GSR in his leg holster attempts to give Snake a hug. Note also the two large pouches for M67 hand grenades on his belt.]]
[[File:MGS4SIGGSR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny fires his GSR at FROG soldiers onboard Outer Haven.]]
[[File:MGS4SIGGSR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl picks up Johnny's GSR and fires it after he is wounded.]]
[[File:MGS4SIGGSR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mei Ling, Captain of the USS ''Missouri'' and returning support character from the first MGS, cradles her GSR as her ship is attacked.]]

==Springfield Operator==

A customised [[M1911_pistol_series#Springfield_Armory_M1911_-_A1|Springfield Operator]] is Old Snake's signature handgun in ''Metal Gear Solid 4'', and the weapon he most commonly has equipped during cutscenes; it is clearly designed to resemble the custom M1911 used by Big Boss during the previous game, though it is by no means identical. It is given to him for free (along with a [[Ruger Mk II Pistol]]) by Otacon early in the first Act of the game; Otacon comments that it was never integrated into the System, hence Snake's ability to use it before meeting Drebin. The Operator has the ability to mount both a tactical flashlight and a degradable suppressor, being one of only two pistols able to mount a suppressor and underbarrel accessory (the other being the Mark 23), and uses the very common .45 ACP round. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:PX9105MLP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Springfield Armory Loaded MC Operator - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Snake_.45.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Old Snake's Springfield Operator.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Springfield Operator on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Otacon presents the Operator to Snake, with the suppressor installed. Oddly, it tends to not be installed during cutscenes; while this might conceivably be done in case Snake has no suppressors left, Snake has no problem using it when he has no .45 ACP ''ammunition'' left.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Snake checks over his Operator after being presented it, first unloading it and examining the slide, then the fit of the suppressor, and finally pulling the trigger to let the hammer fall on the empty chamber.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He's soon merrily testing it out on the Praying Mantis PMC soldiers.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Operator; note the handle of his Stun Knife in his left hand. He frequently reloads weapons with this in his hand, as a nod to the CQC knife-and-gun techniques in ''Metal Gear Solid 3''.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Encountering Drebin, Snake keeps his unsuppressed Operator trained on the Gun Launderer, not eager to trust someone who hangs around with a weird hairless monkey thing.]]
[[File:MGS4OldSnakeSpringerOp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aims his Operator at Liquid Ocelot at the end of Act 1, unable to get a shot off due to his nanomachines being interfered with by Liquid Ocelot's failed attempt to login to the System using Liquid Snake's DNA.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aims his Operator at Drebin's weird naked monkey-creature "Little Gray" as he wonders where it all went wrong.]]
[[File:MGS4SpringerOp-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Liquid Ocelot:''' ''"When it comes to CQC, I have the upper hand."'' Liquid Ocelot holds Snake's Operator on him after disarming him at the end of Act 3.]]
[[File:MGS4SpringerOp-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Old Snake:''' ''"One last punishment I must endure: erase my genes, wipe this meme from the face of the Earth. This is my final mission."'' Snake puts the barrel of his Operator in his mouth when preparing to commit suicide, a scene that is viewable right from the beginning of the game and requires completion of the game to fully explain. This screenshot provides a clear view of the laser activation switch on the slide release, and the Bomar-style rear sights.]]
[[File:MGS4SpringerOp-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Unable to commit suicide, Snake fires the only bullet into random space. Note that the slide locked back on an empty magazine follower, despite the fact that Snake only loaded one round in the chamber and then pocketed the magazine. This means the slide should be in battery.]]

=Submachine Guns=

This category in-game also includes the "Patriot" compact carbine, but that weapon is listed under assault rifles due to firing an intermediate round rather than a pistol round.

==FN P90==

The [[FN P90]] is the primary weapon of Liquid Ocelot's FROG commando unit and is also used by Laughing Octopus in-game; since the FROGs are a common enemy in the game, ammunition is fairly plentiful. The P90 correctly features an integral reflex sight on the carrying handle, and also has three accessory mounting points, able to fit a suppressor, laser aiming module and a tactical light. Unusually for a game, the 50-round polycarbonate magazine is correctly shown as translucent, and visibly empties as the weapon is fired in first person. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and if the "Drebin Points" option is enabled, it becomes the most expensive weapon of its type in that mode, thanks to its ease of use and plethora of customisation options.

[[Image:FNP90Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-P90.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FN P90 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-P90-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Liquid Ocelot's all-female special unit, the FROGs, carry P90s as standard-issue; this is in part a callback to the Arsenal Tengu troopers of ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', who wore similar armor and also wielded P90s. As with the Arsenal Tengus, the gas masks of the FROGs are apparently fake and offer them no protection against gas-based attacks.]]
[[File:MGS4P90-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up on the receiver of a suppressed P90. Looking down while lying prone with any gun gives this type of view.]]
[[Image:MGS4-P90-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the "Guns of the Patriots" sequence in Act 3, a group of FROG soldiers on Liquid's boat manage the impressive feat of firing their P90s for twenty solid seconds without ever once being shown reloading, implying they somehow managed to fit 300 rounds into a standard P90 magazine.]]
[[File:MGS4P90-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FROG soldier firing her P90.]]
[[File:MGS4P90-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up on a FROG's P90.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5SD2==

The [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5SD2]] can be purchased from Drebin and is equipped with an integral, non-degrading suppressor. However, the tradeoff is that it is one of the weakest weapons in the entire game, and uses the surprisingly uncommon 9x19mm round. This weapon is available in multiplayer, but cannot be customised. The appearance of this weapon is a reference to the "Integral" version of the original ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' for the Playstation 1 console that was sold only in Japan, where it was available on the Very Easy difficulty and had infinite ammunition.

[[Image:MP5SD5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD2 - 9x19mm, The one in-game has the older S-E-F trigger group.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MP5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MP5SD2 on the item menu.]]
[[File:MGS4MP5SD2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming down the sights of the MPSSD2.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP7A1==

The [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]] is used by several of the PMC operatives in game. It can be first found and used by the player in Act 2 and can be equipped with a unique red dot sight or the ACOG scope. For whatever reason, the weapon is depicted ingame as being distinctly inferior to the P90, lacking any option to attach a suppressor, tactical light, or laser sight (all of which it can use in real life). It is also stuck with using a low-capacity 20-round magazine ingame (intended for use for when the MP7 is issued as a select-fire, armour-piercing, backup weapon you can holster), instead of its more appropriate 40-round magazine variant (intended for use when the MP7 is issued as a primary weapon).

[[Image:Hk mp7 b-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 with Hensoldt RSA red dot sight - 4.6x30mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-MP7.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MP7A1 on the item menu.]]

==Izhmash PP-19 Bizon==

The [[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]] can be purchased from Drebin; the game claims it to be a "new Russian submachine gun," even though it was twelve years old when the game came out and is sixteen years old in the game's universe; the version in-game is not even a current model, instead being based on the earliest production model. The version in game is chambered for 9x18mm Makarov, which translates into a 64-round magazine capacity. The Bizon cannot be customised in the game, though it can be used one-handed during the motorcycle chase in Act 3.

[[Image:Bizon1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Early PP-19 Bizon - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:MGS4-Bizon.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bizon on the item menu.]]

==MAC-10==

The [[MAC-10]] can be purchased from Drebin or found in Act 2. It can be equipped with a suppressor. Unlike most depictions, Snake actually uses both hands and the stock in-game.

[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|320px|none|Ingram MAC-10 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-M10.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MAC-10 as "M10" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M10-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires his MAC-10 during the motorcycle sequence of Act 3; apparently Big Mama doesn't mind him firing unsuppressed fully automatic weapons right next to her ear.]]

==Skorpion Vz 82==

The [[Skorpion_SA#SA Vz. 82 Skorpion|SA Vz. 82 Skorpion]] is used by Paradise Lost resistance members riding motorcycles in the Eastern Europe section of the game (Act 3), and is given to Old Snake by Big Mama in the same level. While called the "Vz. 83" ingame, the game shows it as being chambered in 9x18mm Makarov rather than .380 ACP, making it a Vz. 82. It comes equipped with a visible laser sight.

Its comparatively low magazine capacity of 20 rounds, low stats, and inability to be customised, coupled with the fact that FN P90s can be obtained for free much earlier ingame, make it arguably a weapon hardly-chosen by most players, so it's largely for the nostalgia factor in singleplayer (the very similar [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion]] made an appearance in Metal Gear Solid 3), though players can still take advantage of the fact that it's the submachinegun with highest lock-on in the game, being especially useful for one-shotting enemies during the Act 3 chase scene. Multiplayer, however, is a different story, as it is the only firearm in its inventory slot to be available free of charge (if Drebin Points are enabled) for non-unique player characters, as well as possessing the longest auto-aim lock-on range of any weapon in multiplayer modes.

[[Image:Scorpion SA Vz 82.jpg|thumb|none|330px|SA Vz. 82 Skorpion - 9x18mm Makarov.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Klobb.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Skorpion Vz 82 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Klobb-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Mama hands Snake a Vz 82 during the cutscene before the motorcycle escape sequence.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Klobb-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As usual, he inspects it before accepting.]]

=Shotguns=

Note: All shotguns in this game can use 00 buckshot, shotgun slugs, or non-lethal vortex ring ammunition.

==Remington 870 Custom==

A heavily customised [[Remington 870]] can be purchased from Drebin or found in the second Act; it comes with a Surefire dedicated forend WeaponLight as standard, and can also be equipped with an Aimpoint red dot sight or ACOG scope; if neither is fitted, it will have no sights at all, with Snake simply aiming along the top mounted-rail. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is the only weapon of its type in that mode if the "Drebin Points" option is not enabled.

[[Image:Model870P 14inlg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police "Entry Gun" with a SureFire dedicated forend WeaponLight - 12 gauge. The version in ''MGS4'' is further customised with a top rail instead of iron sights and a collapsible stock similar to the one used by the Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-870C.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"870 custom" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-870C-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FROG reels in confusion as Snake aims a pump-action RIS rail at her. "It's a shotgun, I swear!"]]
[[Image:MGS4-870C-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With the Aimpoint scope attached, the 870 Custom at least looks a bit more respectable.]]

== Remington 870 "MasterKey" ==

A short barrelled [[Remington 870]] configured like an [[Knight's Armament Masterkey]] is available as an attachment for the "M4 Custom" only, and can be found in the hands of PMC search teams; curiously, they have it equipped in a standalone configuration with a pistol grip and stock, raising the question of why they aren't just using a regular full-size shotgun instead. The inferior tube magazine capacity and lower effective range would make it far less useful than a full-sized shotgun for general use, and for close quarters combat or door breaching a purpose-built short shotgun would be a far more logical choice than issuing a rifle accessory which needs to be attached to ''another'' accessory to actually function.

[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:M4masterkey01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 carbine with Masterkey shotgun - 5.56mm & 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Kacsbsa.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Masterkey in standalone configuration.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4CMasterkey.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Masterkey accessory shotgun mounted to the M4 Custom on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Masterkey.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Old Snake's M4 Custom in full recoil as he uses his Masterkey to ruin someone's day.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Masterkey-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Satisified for now, Old Snake reloads his Masterkey.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Masterkey-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Attaching an accessory shotgun to a standalone grip is rather like buying an iPod and then nailing it to the side of a desktop PC.]]

==Saiga 12==

The [[Saiga-12]] can be purchased from Drebin. It is the only weapon of its type capable of semiautomatic fire, as well as the only one that uses a detachable box magazine (with a capacity of 8 rounds); along with very clear iron sights, this makes it distinctly superior to the other shotguns in more or less every regard. This weapon is available in multiplayer, but cannot be customised in the game.

[[Image:Saiga 12k-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Saiga-12K - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:MGS4-Saiga12.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Saiga 12 on the item menu, loaded here with less-lethal (in game terms, non-lethal) vortex ring rounds.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Saiga12-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Finding the Advent Palace hotel's kitchen infested with FROGs, Snake takes prompt action before an inspector shows up and shuts the place down.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Saiga12-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having done his bit for the community, Snake reloads his Saiga 12.]]

=="Twin Barrel"==

A [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun#Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)|sawed off side-by-side double barrel shotgun]], that can either be found in the game or purchased from Drebin. For some reason, Old Snake is restricted to using it with a one-handed grip. He can also only fire both barrels at once, though this is due to the shotgun only having a single trigger for both barrels.

[[Image:SS311A sawed-off-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed-off Baikal side-by-side shotgun - 12 gauge. Similar to the ''MGS4'' "Twin Barrel," though the latter has only a single trigger.]]
[[Image:MGS4-shotty.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Twin Barrel" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Shotty-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Paradise Lost member holds a sawed-off double-barrel shotgun on Snake as the old man breaks into their headquarters.]]

=Assault Rifles / Battle Rifles=

==AK-102==

The [[AK-47#AK-102|AK-102]] is used by the rebel forces in the Middle East section (Act 1), and is Solid Snake's first weapon in the game (next to Solid Snake right after the first cutscene after the opening). It can be equipped with a [[GP-30]] grenade launcher. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and if the "Drebin Points" option is enabled, the AK-102 becomes the cheapest assault rifle in that mode.

[[Image:AK102.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AK-102 carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102.jpg|thumb|none|601px|AK-102 on the item menu, fitted with a GP30 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In the first Act, Snake only manages a short burst from his original militia-issued AK before it jams up on him, leaving him to discard it. An optional CODEC call reveals this was due to faulty locally-produced ammunition.]]
[[File:MGS4AK102-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires the AK-102 at Praying Mantis PMC troops.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his second AK-102. There are two slightly different AK-102 models used in game; the "hero" version used only in cutscenes has modelled bullets in the magazine, while the in-game is empty.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Snake reloads the "hero" AK model, with a more detailed magazine.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Menaced by Gekko, Snake still has time to strike a dramatic pose. He discards this AK shortly after this.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Snake encounters his third and last AK-102. Finding it on the ground next to a dead soldier, he carefully checks it for booby-traps before picking it up.]]

==AN-94==

The [[AN-94]] can be found in a shack at the beginning of Act 2 or purchased from Drebin. It can be equipped with a [[GP-30]] grenade launcher. The game correctly simulates the weapon's unusual mode of fully-automatic fire by first firing a 1,800 RPM two-round burst, before cycling the following rounds at 600 RPM. While it is powerful and accurate, it features a very poor iron sight and 5.45x39mm ammunition pickups are basically non-existent, with only a handful in the fourth Act. Its presence is a reference to ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', where Russian mercenaries under the command of Sergei Gurlukovich were equipped with the AN-94 during their attack on the Big Shell; unlike its previous incarnation, however, the AN-94 in this game cannot mount a tactical flashlight.

[[Image:Russian AN-94 Abakan Nikonov 5.45x39mm assault rifle 3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AN-94 Abakan Nikonov assault rifle - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94.jpg|thumb|601px|none|AN94 on the item menu, equipped with a GP-30 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94-3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Snake holds an AN-94 fitted with a GP-30 grenade launcher as he waits for an elevator in the abandoned Shadow Moses base's nuclear warhead storage building.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|While waiting, he amuses himself by using the hideously tiny iron sight of the AN-94 to shoot at some of the warheads that the US military left lying around when the base was abandoned in an extremely sensible fashion. Apparently the alteration to his nanomachines that prevented him doing so before is long past its shelf life.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Luckily, the lethal radiation leak this used to cause has apparently also passed its shelf life and the warheads no longer care about being shot at, leaving Snake to smugly reload his weapon.]]

== AKS-74U ==

During the bizarre live-action introduction sequences, one of the channels shows a PMC advertisement with two people in Middle Eastern-style robes hovering in mid-air as the camera circles around them. The one in black is armed with an [[AK-74#AKS-74U|AKS-74U]].

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U (also referred to as the "AKSU" or 'Krinkov') - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AKS.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A strangely-dressed pair of live-action combatants duel in the air, one holding an AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A second shot of the AKS-74U. This seems to be one of those adverts where nobody can actually figure out what the product was after seeing it.]]

== FAMAS ==

The [[FAMAS]] is not usable in the game, but appears in flashbacks to ''Metal Gear Solid'', as well as the brief "nightmare" sequence of ''MGS1'' gameplay.

[[Image:FAMAS F2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAS-G1 - 5.56x45mm. Older version of the G2 with magazine and magazine release system from FAMAS F1]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAMAS.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Meryl Silverburgh holds a FAMAS on Solid Snake during a flashback to the first game.]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAMAS-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|During the nightmare sequence at the start of Act 4, Snake is treated to some authentic ''MGS1'' gameplay, with the guards still armed with their low-detail FAMAS-G1s as in the original. Note the screen border; this is authentic, and suggests this sequence is the actual PS1 code being run in emulation mode by the PS3.]]

==FN FAL==

The [[FN FAL]], labelled the FAL Carbine, is seen in the hands of the rebel forces in the Eastern Europe section of the game (Act 3). It can be purchased from Drebin like most other firearms in the game. Its battle rifle cartridge makes it more powerful shot-for-shot than the ingame assault rifles, and its low rate of fire combined with the long range of its round allows effective full-auto fire from a much longer range, but it can't be customised.

[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN FAL - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAL.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FN FAL on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having knocked out several Paradise Lost members, Snake brandishes a FAL he took from one and his Stun Knife, preparing to lay some CQC down.]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAL-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Paradise Lost group prepare to move out as Big Mama delivers a ridiculous speech about how first-person shooter games have trained her "children" to be soldiers. Good thing it's not third-person stealth games that did that.]]

==FN SCAR-H CQC==

The short-barrelled CQC variant of the [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H]], referred to under its SOCOM "Mk. 17" designation, is the standard battle rifle used by the PMC troops ingame. It can be found fairly early on in Act 1 (simply by killing, subduing, sedating, or disarming PMC troops) up to Act 3, and can be upgraded with various optics, an AN/PEQ-5 laser sight, a flashlight and one of two vertical foregrips; it cannot, however, mount either of the NATO underbarrel accessory weapons or a suppressor. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:2fff2537c0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H CQC - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk17.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The FN SCAR-H on the item menu. Note the fire selector is always on semi-auto.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SCAR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his SCAR-H.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SCAR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Praying Mantis PMC soldiers retreat as "Gekko" unmanned vehicles are called in to take their place.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SCAR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At the end of the first Act, Snake sneaks into the main base of the Praying Mantis PMC. Circumstances conspire to make this a slightly less bad idea than would normally be expected.]]

==Heckler & Koch G3A3==

The [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] is seen in the hands of the leftist insurgents in the South America section of the game (Act 2). It can also be purchased via Drebin like most other firearms in the game, but cannot be customised. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|HK G3A3 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Boatanchor.jpg|thumb|none|601px|G3A3 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-G3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake uses the ACOG sight of his SCAR-H to admire the trigger discipline of a rebel soldier with a G3A3.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM8 Carbine==

The [[Heckler & Koch XM8]] is used by the Rat Patrol and other US troops in game, curiously still called XM8 even though it has obviously been formally adopted by the US military in ''Metal Gear Solid 4's'' world. It can be found by the player in a secluded area in Act 2, but cannot be purchased from Drebin. The version seen in game has an early XM8 flash hider with the rest of the features of the later model. It comes with a built-in red dot sight and can be equipped with an XM320 grenade launcher, but no other accessories. Meryl's team each have different versions of the rifle, two of which are not available to the player; Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki uses the compact carbine configuration, Johnathan uses the standard one with a grenade launcher, and Ed has the designated marksman variant. The standard version of the XM8 is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:XM8.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:Xm8 rightmed.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Early Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm NATO. Note "duckbill" flash hider and lack of four oval PCAP holes.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SpaceshipM320.jpg|thumb|none|601px|XM8 with an XM320 grenade launcher fitted, on the item menu. Note it uses an early "duckbill" flash hider rather than the later model's "birdcage," but has the later version's PCAP accessory mounting holes in the handguard.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The XM8, as in real life, features a red dot optic as standard; here Snake uses it to take out one of the PMC soldiers guarding the power station.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the charging handle of his XM8 after a reload.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnathan has a lie down with his XM8 with XM320. This is what is technically known as a bad idea.]]
[[File:MGS4XM8-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US Army soldier tries to pull the trigger on his XM8, but the ID lock has been changed by Liquid Ocelot, rendering the weapon useless.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact Carbine==

The [[Heckler_%26_Koch_XM8#Heckler_.26_Koch_XM8_Compact_Carbine|Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact Carbine]], the shortest configuration of the XM8, is used by Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki, a member of Meryl Silverburgh's "Rat Patrol" FOXHound unit. While Heckler & Koch marketed this version as the "PDW" configuration, it fires a full-sized assault rifle round, therefore is classified here as a rifle. It is unavailable in singleplayer, but the Johnny Sasaki unique character in multiplayer can use it, and is the only player character in that mode who can select it at the beginning of a match or when respawning. In this mode, it retains the standard variation's red dot sight, but cannot be customised.

[[Image:XM8CC.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact Carbine with full stock - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8PDW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Old Snake:''' ''"You haven't even taken the safety off, rookie."'' '''Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki:''' ''"Careful, I'm no rookie! I'm a 10-year vet!"'' Johnny then bears out Snake's accusation by visually inspecting his weapon's safety rather than just flicking his thumb up and forward to ensure the safety is not still engaged or disengage it if it is.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8PDW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The result is fairly predictable, with Snake ambushing Johnny via CQC techniques before turning Johnny's weapon against him and his comrades. Note that since there's only one model for the weapon used in this cutscene, the safety is ''still'' on.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8PDW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny shows off the very "Future Force Warrior" look of the FOXHound unit's gear as he holds his XM8 Compact Carbine, including a backpack computer unit, a computer monitor integrated into his "shades," and a keyboard attached to his forearm. One very important piece of gear the Rat Patrol never wears, however, is a helmet.]]

==M4A1==

A customised [[M16_rifle_series#M4.2FM4A1_Carbine|M4A1]] is Solid Snake's assault rifle of choice and is given to him early in Act 1 by Drebin. In the first trailers, he instead steals it from a PMC soldier, and it is equipped with an EOTech 552 sight and a tan XM230 40mm grenade launcher. In the actual game, it can be equipped with an Aimpoint Comp M2 red dot sight, an ACOG scope, a Surefire tactical flashlight, an AN/PEQ-5 CVL (carbine visible laser), a Knights Armament Company (KAC) or TangoDown vertical foregrip, a Remington 870 Masterkey underbarrel shotgun, a H&K XM320 grenade launcher and / or a KAC supressor. The sheer number of attachments, combined with excellent accuracy, low recoil and the abundance of 5.56mm ammo, makes this one of the best rifles available for a good bit into Act 3. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

The weapon itself is based on the M4A1 carbine with a 14.5" barrel, tan A2 pistol grip and tan LE 6-position buttstock. It is equipped as standard with Precision Reflex Industries (PRI) folding front and rear sights, a Troy Industries CQB flash hider ("CQC compatible") and a KAC RAS. Though the latter is supposed to be free-floating, it is incorrectly rendered with a standard M4A1 handguard cap.

Drebin makes a series of patently false claims about the M4A1 as shown; he tells Snake the barrel is free-floating ("of course") despite that the weapon's handguard has an end cap, and claims the weapon is "popular with the big PMCs" despite none ever using it, and claiming it is "the official carbine model used by US army" even though in the fiction the US Army is shown to have adopted the XM8. In early preview shots PMC soldiers were shown carrying M4A1s, but in the finished game they use SCAR-H CQC rifles.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M4A1 Carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4CMasterkey.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M4A1 on the item menu, fitted with a Masterkey accessory shotgun. Unusually for a videogame, mounting an optic will show the weapon with the sights folded down rather than removed entirely.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake is presented with the M4 by Drebin when they first meet as a gift to welcome him to the services of the Gun Launderer. Always one to look a possibly exploding horse in the mouth, Snake proceeds to thoroughly examine it. Note that despite Drebin's claim here, none of the PMCs use the M4 Custom at any point in the game.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake holds his M4 Custom, giving a good look at the rail handguard, flip-up sights and the high-detail magazine of the "hero" cutscene model.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After a minor diversion involving Snake's old nanomachines preventing the weapon firing (via a component he apparently didn't notice while stripping the weapon), Snake fires the M4 Custom.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the non-cutscene M4 reveals a distinct lack of bullets in the magazine.]]
[[File:MGS4M4Custom-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake prepares to squeeze off a shot a Vamp with his M4. Note that the fire selector is properly set to semi-auto, but in gameplay selector is always set to full-auto, even if the player selects a different firing mode.]]
[[File:Mgs4m4custom.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of some of the available accessories.]]

[[File:MGS4M4Custom-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aiming his M4 at Vamp. Despite being right-handed, Snake does a pro job of setting up left-handed to remain behind cover, and makes good use of the wall for stability. Shortly thereafter he resumes his normal right-handed stance while turning the gun sideways, ejection port up, to fire at the PMCs guarding Vamp and Naomi.]]
[[Image:MGS4M4A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Old Snake wielding the M4A1 with an EOTech sight in early trailers; this accessory is not available in the final game.]]

=="Patriot"==

This custom full-auto-only AR-15-pattern carbine, seemingly based on an M231 Firing Port Weapon with the barrel significantly shortened so the whole weapon resembles a [[Rocky Mountain Arms Patriot Pistol]], is seen briefly at the end of the game. It can be unlocked by earning the Big Boss emblem after the end of the game or by a password. Its most notable trait is that it has unlimited ammo and never needs to be reloaded (the ingame reason is how its Beta-C magazine, misnamed in the previous game as the "feed mechanism," vaguely resembles the sideways-8 infinity symbol); it also plays part of the "Snake Eater" theme from ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' when aimed. It is classified as an SMG, despite firing an assault rifle round, which would in reality make it an ultracompact carbine. The Patriot cannot be customised ingame.

[[Image:Wm 1119951786543207.jpg|thumb|none|400px| The Rocky Mountain Arms M16-Style Pistol - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Patriot.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Patriot" on the item menu.]]
[[File:MGS4Patriot-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Patriot" being fired on the roof of Advent Palace.]]
[[File:MGS4Patriot-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Boss drops his "Patriot" in front of Snake.]]

=Sniper Rifles / Designated Marksman Rifles=

==Barrett M82A2==

The [[Barrett_M82#Barrett_M82A2|M82A2]] can be purchased from Drebin, is Hideo Kojima's personal favourite, and is used the US military forces in Act 3 and later by Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki during Act 5, a curious weapon choice when it is clear that a weapon capable of extended automatic fire would be much better suited to the particular environment he's literally being thrown into. It is also exclusively available to the Akiba special character in multiplayer.

[[Image:Barrettm82a2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Barrett M82A2 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Barrett M82A2 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US soldier aims a Barrett M82A2 at Liquid's boat from the side door of a helicopter during Act 3.]]
[[File:MGS4M82A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another US soldier aims his Barrett M82A2 off the pier.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He is one of many, many, many soldiers and Marines aiming at said boat. Strangely, most of them aim straight forward even though the boat is ''below'' the bridge they're standing on.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At the start of the final Act, Johnny Sasaki holds his M82A2 as he prepares to launch onto Outer Haven using the giant man-catapult which Drebin owns for some inexplicable reason.]]
[[File:MGS4M82A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny aims his Barrett M82A2 at FROG soldiers onboard Outer Haven.]]
[[File:MGS4M82A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny fires his M82A2 at the FROGs.]]

==DSR-1==

The [[DSR-1]], a bolt-action sniper rifle in a bullpup layout, is used by FROG snipers and can be bought from Drebin; doing so is rather pointless, however, since Old Snake is automatically given an unlocked DSR-1 at the end of Act 2, after he uses it in a cutscene to free Raiden from Vamp's clutches. The weapon is loud and features a fairly slow bolt-action; this along with a lack of customisation options places it distinctly behind the Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR and VSS in terms of versatility. The ingame calibre is specified to be 7.62x67mm, making it .300 Winchester Magnum. It is used by a few PMC and FROG snipers, the latter resulting in one of the game's more memorably unrealistic scenes in Act 3. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:Dsr1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|DSR-Precision GmbH DSR-1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR.jpg|thumb|none|601px|DSR-1 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the bolt of his DSR-1.]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the motorcycle escape sequence in the third Act, the game uses a "cinematic" camera any time Snake isn't aiming; at one point, a FROG sniper is seen firing her DSR-1 from a distant building. Note the FROGs place the scope against the side of their head rather than lining it up with their eyes; in addition, in this scene the DSR-1 ejects a spent casing immediately, without the bolt being operated.]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Mama reels from the FROG sniper's bullet. As noted above, if the player was using their weapon they will have no idea why this actually happened. Which is probably for the best...]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...Since apparently Big Mama isn't up on the whole thing where being shot with a .300 Win Mag is supposed to actually harm you in some way.]]

==Heckler & Koch PSG-1==

While not usable in the game, the "press X" flashback after defeating Crying Wolf shows Sniper Wolf's death scene in the original game, with the defeated sniper holding her signature [[Heckler_%26_Koch_G3#Heckler_.26_Koch_PSG-1|Heckler & Koch PSG-1]].

[[Image:H&KPSG01.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSG1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sadly, the static and blur filters thrown over these flashback images mean this is the only frame of Wolf's PSG-1 where the barrel isn't distorted.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM8 Sharpshooter==

A [[Heckler_%26_Koch_XM8#Heckler_.26_Koch_XM8_Sharpshooter_Rifle|Heckler & Koch XM8 Sharpshooter Rifle]] is used by the character "Ed," a member of Meryl Silverburgh's "Rat Patrol" FOXHound unit. It is never available to the player.

[[Image:XM8sharp.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch XM8 Sharpshooter Rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8Sharp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ed checks over his XM8 Sharpshooter. Note Ed's weapon is fitted with the same Insight ISM-V scope as the other members of his unit, rather than the x4 magnifying scope the Sharpshooter variant is supposed to use.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8Sharp-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl, Ed and Johnathan demonstrate the capabilities of the "System" by taking down three FROG soldiers in perfect unison, using their shared senses.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8Sharp-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hearing a mysterious sound coming from all around, Ed and Johnathan apprehensively aim their weapons at particularly scary-looking parts of a derelict building.]]

== Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle ==

The [[M14_Rifle#Mk_14_Mod_0_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle|Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle ]] (Referred to incorrectly as the "M14EBR") is a modern variant of the [[M14 Rifle]]. It is used by PMC marksmen in-game and can be purchased from Drebin. It has semiautomatic and fully automatic rates of fire and can be equipped with a suppressor, laser sight, and flashlight. Its fully automatic fire mode makes it very useful even in short range combat, and the fact that it's available early on, combined with its extensive list of modifications, makes it one of the best guns in the game. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR with a Harris bipod and vertical RIS foregrip - 7.62x51 NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"M14 EBR" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the first Act, rebel soldiers are shown trying to storm an urban area guarded by a PMC fireteam, including sniper / spotter teams; the snipers are armed with Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifles.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A second sniper team, with the marksman also armed with a Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR.]]

==Mosin Nagant Sniper==

A modified [[Mosin Nagant]] sniper rifle with a paratrooper stock and pistol grip can be purchased from Drebin in-game. It is the same rifle used by The End in MGS3 and is modified to only fire tranquilizer darts, though in this game this also includes fictional "Emotion" darts which cause targets to experience one of the game's four psychological states (Cry, Rage, Laugh or Scream). This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:MosinNagantM9130Sniper.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mosin Nagant M91/30 Sniper Rifle - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mosin.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Custom Mosin-Nagant on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mosin-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake shows off The End's Mosin Nagant, which Drebin acquired somehow.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mosin-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the bolt of his Mosin Nagant, correctly shown as the turned-down bolt handle of a sniper version.]]

==SVD Dragunov-S==

The SVD Dragunov-S, a modernised, shortened version of the [[SVD Dragunov]] intended for paratroop use is seen in the hands of militiamen and rebel snipers in Acts 1 and 2. The weapon cannot be customised or mount any kind of suppressor, but the ammunition is relatively cheap and the weapon a semi-automatic rather than bolt-action, making it a middle-of-the-road weapon. The scope features an error: the number in the stadiametric rangefinder indicating the height of the reference target is "10" rather than the correct "1.7;" either that or in Snake's world shooting at 32-foot tall monsters is more important than shooting at infantry. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:SVD-S-Rifle.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Dragunov-S shortened sniper rifle intended for paratroopers - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SVD on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nobody had expected Snake to disguise himself as Venom.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As ever, Snake can't stand the idea of having a round lazing around in the chamber of one of his long guns after going to all the effort of reloading it, so gives the charging handle a yank to send it on its way.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As with the other sniper weapons, the SVD's scope has two zoom levels, the reticle slightly altering to take account of this. This is low-power...]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...And this is high. Note the windage / lead marks have changed.]]

==VSS Vintorez==

The [[VSS Vintorez]] appears in the game, and can only be found in a room in Act 2; it cannot be bought from Drebin at any point in the game. It has an integral (non-degradable) suppressor, and like the M14EBR is capable of fully-automatic fire, though its shallower 10-round magazine can become a liability in close-range firefights. Since it uses the same reticle model, it duplicates the Dragunov's error of showing the reference height for the target as 10 metres instead of 1.7 metres. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is capable of firing tranquilizer rounds in multiplayer only.

[[Image:Vss1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|VSS Vintorez with PSO-1 scope - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|VSS on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Out and about in Millennium Park, Snake aims his VSS Vintorez.]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake uses the scope of his VSS to help out his friend. "Well, that's a load off my mind. Thanks, Snake!"]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the VSS.]]

=Machine Guns=

As was the case in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'' with the [[Stoner 63]], player characters firing machine guns continuously will yell in classic ''"[[Rambo]]"'' tradition. Weapons in this category all have a strange ammunition display quirk; the ammunition bar only shows fifty rounds, with every tenth round marked white. This will scroll as the gun is fired and only count down when 49 or fewer rounds are left on the belt.

==Heckler & Koch HK21E==

The [[Heckler_%26_Koch_HK_series_machine_guns#Heckler_.26_Koch_HK21|Heckler & Koch HK21E]] is seen in the hands of a rebel militiaman in the early portion of the Middle East section of the game (Act 1). In a conversation that can be overheard if the player remains hidden or has earned the trust of the rebels, he claims that it is an enemy gun, yet strangely none of the PMC troopers in the level are seen using it. The rebel militiaman also refers to it as "the very latest model", when in actuality the weapon was designed in the 1980s, some 30 years before the events of the game take place. It can be stolen in this location, or can be purchased via Drebin like most other firearms.

[[Image:HK21E.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK21E - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-HK21E.jpg|thumb|none|601px|HK21E on the item menu. Note that it has the 5-vent handguard of a regular HK21 and a shortened barrel like that of an HK11 or HK23.]]
[[Image:MGS4-HK21E-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel soldier brags about his "laundered" HK21E, ignoring several rules of firearm safety by waving it at his friend, even if his finger isn't on the trigger.]]
[[Image:MGS4-HK21E-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads an HK21E as a FROG trooper self-incinerates nearby. It's never particularly clear why they do this, so it's probably nanomachines. Note that the belt of the old drum vanishes just as Snake detaches it; this is the new drum being put in place.]]

==Kalashnikov PKM==

The [[PK Machine Gun]] is seen in the hands of militia and rebels in Act 2. at the time this is obtained, this gun is a good 40-50% more powerful at close range than any other automatic weapon. However, ammo is uncommon and expensive and it can't be customised.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKM with classic (most seen) version of the flash hider - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM.jpg|thumb|none|601px|PKM on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake opens up on Pieuvre Armement PMC soldiers with his PKM, angered at the PMC's name being so hard to spell.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|His fury abated, it's time to reload.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The rebel soldier thankfully realizes that Snake pointing a SCAR-H at his groin is just the old man's way of saying good morning.]]

==M60E4==

The [[M60 machine gun|M60E4]] is used by the PMC operatives in game. It can be equipped with optics, foregrips, laser sight, and flashlight. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is the only weapon of its type in that mode.

[[Image:M60E4-mk43.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60E4 Mk.43 with Picatinny rails, RIS foregrip, and ammo belt - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M60E4 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sights up a Pieuvre Armement PMC soldier armed with an M60E4.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake revisits Shadow Moses, bringing a touch more firepower this time.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having foolishly alerted the million billion Dwarf Gekko which have apparently colonized the Tank Hangar, Snake does the only reasonable thing, whipping out his M60E4 and getting started making a big pile of scrap metal.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Werewolf PMC appears to be trying to deploy more Dwarf Gekko drones than a potential enemy has bullets.]]

==Mk. 46 Mod. 0==

The [[FN_Minimi#Mk_46_Mod_0|Mk. 46 Mod. 0]] can be purchased from Drebin; it is mislabelled as a Mod 1, but has the 12 o'clock rail on the handguard that is not present on the Mod 1. It features the same customisation as the M60, but it's much lighter and fires the less powerful 5.56x45mm cartridge.

[[Image:Mk46.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk. 46 Mod. 0 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk46.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Mk. 46 Mod.1" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk46-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake starts to reload the Mk. 46 by pulling back the charging handle, giving a good view of the 12 o'clock rail on the handguard; this shows the weapon is actually a Mod 0. Despite its inclusion, there is no accessory that can be mounted on this rail.]]
[[File:MGS4Mk46Mod0-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake unloads his Mk. 46 on PMCs while atop Drebin's Stryker.]]
[[File:MGS4Mk46Mod0-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Mk. 46 in the hallway at Shadow Moses where the Cyborg Ninja's infamous massacre took place.]]

=Launchers=

==FGM-148 Javelin==

The [[FGM-148 Javelin]] is found in Act 1 and can be purchased from Drebin. It is erroneously shown as a SACLOS device requiring full-course guidance by the operator, with Snake discarding the entire launcher including the CLU after every shot and pulling out a fresh Javelin from more or less nowhere; it also cannot be used in top-attack mode by the player. Most of the time it is used by NPCs it is seen being used in an incorrect direct-fire mode; in real life, even shots fired in this mode start their flight with a rapid climb, while in game the missile flies straight forwards. The only time it is shown firing correctly is during Act 1, when a group of hidden PMC soldiers will fire missiles in top-attack mode to destroy a rebel BMP-3 IFV if the player protects it for long enough.

It is never at all clear ''why'' it operates the way it does; presumably, the lack of lock-on capability is to separate the weapon functionally from the Stinger, and the SACLOS guidance intended to be reminiscent of ''MGS1'' and ''MGS2's'' fly-by-wire "Nikita" missile launcher, but this doesn't really explain why the resulting mechanics were given to a Javelin launcher rather than a fictional ATGM system.

[[Image:Javalin.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FGM-148 Javelin - 127mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FGM-148 Javelin on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake moves into position with a Javelin during the second Act, preparing to provide the rebels with a touch more firepower.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sighting up a PMC Stryker through the scope of the Javelin. In theory, it's possible to top-attack by guiding the round up and then down, but this offers no meaningful advantage over direct fire.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With the Stryker destroyed, Snake reloads by throwing the entire launcher away and pulling another one out of thin air. Apparently it doesn't occur to him to re-use the $80,000 Command Launch Unit. Note that Snake can carry up to ''fifty'' complete launchers; this means his invisible backpack has a carrying capacity exceeding one ton.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sights up a PMC Javelin operator during the first Act. With due diligence, it's possible to escort the mildly suicidal BMP-3 past every launcher...]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...Whereupon a hidden Praying Mantis soldier suddenly remembers how the Javelin actually works.]]

==FIM-92 Stinger==

The [[FIM-92A Stinger]] can be purchased from Drebin, and is also found in the back of the truck in the Nuclear Warhead Storage Building, Floor 1, in Act 4. Unlike previous games where it was reloaded in a completely unspecified manner, in ''MGS4'' Snake will discard the launcher after firing and pull another one from thin air. As per series norms, the Stinger is incorrectly shown as a strange all-purpose missile, able to lock on to aircraft, ground vehicles, and even infantry.

[[Image:-0976t.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIM-92A Stinger - 70mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FIM-92A Stinger on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With a determined look on his face, Snake clutches a Stinger as he advances on the Confinement Facility. As with the Javelin, being old apparently doesn't stop him lugging two thousand pounds of Stingers around.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake readies a Stinger as his previous one fails to take down a PMC helicopter. Reloading before impact broke the previous round's lock-on, leaving it to fly off aimlessly.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The helicopter is not nearly as lucky the second time around.]]

==GP-30==

The [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-30 grenade launcher]] can be attached to the AK-102 and AN-94. It can be found in the Advent Palace Hotel in Act 1, in a secret room at the start of Act 2, or bought from Drebin. It can be used in multiplayer on the AK-102 if Drebin Points are enabled. The GP-30 correctly does not share ammunition with the other 40mm grenade launchers (as it uses caseless VOG-25 grenades, which are incompatible with 40mm NATO grenade launchers); in game, it can only use high explosive rounds.

[[Image:Gp-30 ak-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GP-30 grenade launcher mounted on AK-74 - 40mm & 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102.jpg|thumb|none|601px|AK-102 on the item menu, fitted with a GP-30 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GP30-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads the GP-30 mounted under his AN-94 assault rifle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GP30.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake finds a GP-30 in the Advent Palace Hotel. As noted previously, this "Custom Parts" box item is used to represent any accessory weapon or weapon accessory.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM25 Mock-Up==

An early mock-up of the [[Heckler & Koch XM25]] made for demonstration purposes is shown in game as the actual weapon. A semi-automatic grenade launcher chambered in 25mm, it fires airbursting HEAB (High Explosive Air Bursting) rounds, which function rather like the PK rockets in ''Battlefield 2142''; while the weapon is held normally they are simply impact detonated, but scoping shows a display with an always-on rangefinder. Pressing up or down on the D-pad freezes at the currently displayed range, with further presses adjusting the detonation distance up or down. It can be found on the catwalk of one of the control towers in Act 4, and is the only heavy weapon usable during the motorcycle chase in Act 3.

[[Image:Xm25 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM25 mock-up - 25 x 40mm. This is a non-firing demonstrator which looks substantially different to the final version.]]
[[Image:ATKXM25.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Final XM25 for comparison - 25 x 40mm. The version in ''MGS4'' was clearly based on the former.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25.jpg|thumb|none|601px|XM25 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires his XM25 in over-shoulder mode; fired like this, the grenades are impact detonation only.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Using the scope, on the other hand, allows the HEAB rounds to be used properly. The two range figures to the right are the range to the object currently being aimed at (white) and the current detonation distance (red). It fires in impact mode until the D-pad is touched to fix and then alter the range. The launcher "forgets" the set range if Snake stops aiming down the sight.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his XM25 as he tries to ignore what Johnny Sasaki is currently doing nearby.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM320==

A mixture of the early version and later version of the [[Heckler & Koch M320|Heckler & Koch XM320]] grenade launcher is the underbarrel launcher for the M4 Custom and XM8 rifle; it lacks the MP7-style folding front grip added to the production M320 and has the early style trigger guard, therefore is correctly labelled in the game, even if it makes little sense in-universe for it to still have an XM- designation. It can be purchased from Drebin, and is also carried by some PMC members in stand-alone form in the South America portion of the game; it cannot be used by the player in this form. The XM320 has four ammo types; it can fire HE rounds, white phosphorous, stun grenades and smoke rounds. The attachment is also available in multiplayer.

[[Image:XM320.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM320 - 40x46mm. Note lack of a front grip, added only to the production M320. The version in-game uses an earlier version of the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SpaceshipM320.jpg|thumb|none|601px|XM320 grenade launcher mounted to an XM8 rifle on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M320-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Assaulted by Pieuvre Armement PMC soldiers, Snake loads a white phosphorous round into the XM320 mounted to his XM8.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M320-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He stops being assaulted immediately afterward.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M320-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Later, he encounters two more PMC soldiers defending the Confinement Facility with their standalone XM320s. Thankfully, PMC soldiers can only use high explosive rounds in their launchers.]]

==M72A3 LAW==

The [[M72 LAW]] is used by a small number of rebels in Act 2.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW - 66mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M72A3 LAW on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake comes across a rebel soldier with his M72 at the ready during the game's second Act.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Taking aim down the sights of an M72A3 LAW. Or rather, the sight; the weapon is incorrectly shown with the player's point of view in front of Snake's right hand, using only the front sight with the rear one not visible. To actually do this, Snake would have to be reaching back over his own shoulder with his right hand.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake discards a spent LAW and extends another; the ground model is actually a closed tube, meaning the tube instantly collapses as it leaves Snake's hands.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As Drebin moves to give Snake a shot of suppressor Nanomachines to let him use non-ID guns, two low-detail LAWs are visible in the weapon rack of his Stryker. These are low-detail because they are part of the Stryker model itself rather than copies of the normal in-world model.]]

==MGL-140==

The [[Milkor MGL]] appears as the "MGL-140," it is used by Raging Raven and is acquired by Solid Snake upon defeating her. It shares the ammunition reserve of the XM320, and can use the same four ammunition types: HE fragmentation, white phosphorous, "flashbang" stun rounds and smoke rounds.

[[Image:MGL32.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M32 MGL in desert tan finish fitted with Armson OEG reflex sight - 40mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MGL-140 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raging Raven flies overhead during the introduction of the B&B Corps in the first Act, showing off her MGL-140 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Later, in the third Act, the MGL gets a closeup as Raven fires a grenade at the van Snake and Big Mama are escorting.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Finally getting her boss fight in Act 3, Raven has her pre-battle speech...]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...During which, for reasons known only to himself, Snake doesn't shoot her. Perhaps he's marvelling at how this isn't even the weirdest thing that's happened to him ''today''.]]
[[File:MGS4MilkorMGL-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake collects Raven's MGL-140 after defeating her.]]

==RPG-7==

The [[RPG-7]] is used by the rebels in the first Act, and a large number of unlocked RPG-7s are present throughout the first stage, seemingly primarily to give the player some quick Drebin Points due to their high trade-in value. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is the only one of its type in that mode.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG.jpg|thumb|601px|none|RPG-7 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel aims his RPG-7 during ''MGS4's'' first Act.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires on a Stryker using the PGO-7 scope of his RPG-7; the illuminated red dot at the aim point is obscured here by the flare of the rocket's sustainer motor.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake starts to reload his RPG-7, showing off the PGO-7 scope.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake finds a box of RPG-7 ammunition lurking around in the rebel base in Act 1. This is the generic pickup item used for all rocket launcher ammunition.]]

=Thrown / Placed=

==Airsoft gas charger grenade==

A grenade with a thin, smooth cylindrical body is used as the model for both the "flashbang" stun grenades and the game's fictional electronic warfare "chaff" grenades. This appears to be based on a grenade-shaped gas bottle for Airsoft guns, such as the one shown below. Stun grenades can be found throughout the game or bought from Drebin, and stun all enemies within a fixed radius who can see them while also causing an instant alert if there wasn't one already. The Chaff Grenade is treated as a "secret" weapon; only a handful can be found during the entire game, usually in out-of-the-way places, and Drebin never sells them; they are basically a short-duration EMP-like effect rather flimsily explained as strips of metal which are spread throughout the entire current area via magic. Using one temporarily disables security cameras, alarms and enemy radios, and temporarily paralyses any drone vehicles present. This lasts until the magic fades and all the strips of metal return to wherever they came from in the first place.

[[Image:DAM116A101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|EAIMING "M116A1 Distraction Device Grenade," an Airsoft gun gas charger built to resemble a hand grenade. "M116A1" is actually the US army's code for a simulation hand grenade with a paper body, used in training.]]
[[Image:MGS4-StunG.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Stun grenade" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-ChaffG.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Chaff grenade" on the item menu. M363 is actually an obsolete anti-infantry canister round developed for the 76mm guns of the M4 Sherman and M41 Walker Bulldog tanks.]]
[[Image:MGS4-StunG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After FROG soldiers knock a hole into the Advent Palace Hotel's bathroom, they toss a stun grenade inside, visible next to Meryl's head. The explosion, if looked at, turns the screen completely white; this can be simulated by looking to the right of this image.]]

==M112 C4 Demolition Charge==

Remote-detonated C4 charges are available during the game, and can be placed on the ground or objects and then detonated in the order they were originally placed. Precisely what attaches them to surfaces is not clear; the charges can be fixed to non-magnetic surfaces, and lack any obvious adhesive.

[[Image:M112.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M112 demolition charge]]
[[Image:MGS4-C4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"C4" on the item menu.]]

==M18 Smoke Grenade==

The [[M18 smoke grenade]] is usable in the game, in a default white version and four special "Emotion" versions which produce coloured smoke which affects the emotions of enemies caught in it; Blue for Cry, Red for Rage, Yellow for Laugh, and Green for Scream. The M18 is also the basis for the "fat" versions of the Stun and Chaff grenade seen in the ''MGS1'' nightmare sequence.

[[Image:M18red.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M18 smoke grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M18 smoke grenade on the item menu. This grenade produces white smoke.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18-Emot.jpg|thumb|none|601px|One of the four coloured "emotion" smoke grenades available after completing the game once. This is the yellow "Laugh" grenade.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Faced with the rebel BMP-3 in the first Act, the Praying Mantis PMC soldiers decide that discretion is the better part of valour, one throwing an M18 smoke grenade to cover their retreat.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the Act 4 ''MGS1'' nightmare, Snake is surprised at finding a security camera in a top-secret base as he brandishes a "Chaff Grenade" based on an M18. Due to PS1-era graphical limitations, the grenade is bigger than his head.]]

==M18A1 Claymore==

The [[M18A1 Claymore]] mine is used as a trap in several locations throughout the game; as usual in the series, the mines use a proximity detonator rather than the real weapon's tripwire, although they lack the optical camouflage seen in the first two games which made them invisible.

[[Image:M18a1 07.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel mine]]
[[Image:MGS4-Claymore.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M18A1 Claymore on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Claymore-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake spots a Claymore in the lobby of the Advent Palace Hotel, deciding that practical jokes by the staff must have really got out of hand.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Claymore-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luckily ''MGS'' series standards still apply, and Claymores are apparently both extremely hot for no readily determined reason and can be stolen by crawling over them.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==

The [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] is available to the player only, and creates a burning cloud of white phosphorous which ignites enemies on contact.

[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|200px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-WP.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-WP-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake looks down the iron sight of his MP5SD2 at a case of WP grenades; this is the generic pickup model used by every type of grenade in the game.]]

==M67 Hand Grenade==

The [[M67 hand grenade]] is used by most enemies in the game and can be used by the player; it is also part of the armament of the "Gekko" bipedal IFVs, which can throw grenades using their manipulator tentacles.

[[Image:Baseball.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M67 hand grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-M67.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M67 hand grenade on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M67-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Drebin shows off a magic trick he presumably uses at ''really'' dull parties.]]
[[File:MGS4Grenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A better shot of the M67.]]

==Magazine==

A 30-round STANAG 5.56x45mm magazine can be thrown to distract enemies. One magazine is added to the stock every time a weapon's magazine is fully depleted; regardless of the weapon, it will always be shown as this type when thrown. Unlike ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', the reloading animation correctly shows Snake retaining the old mag during the reload rather than discarding it and then having it in his inventory anyway.

[[Image:MGS4-Magazine.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Magazine on the item menu.]]

==Mk 2 Hand Grenade==

During the PMC commercials before the game proper begins, two live-action combatants are seen duelling in mid-air as the camera sweeps around them. As they move close, the one in white reaches down to produce a [[Mk 2 hand grenade]], with another attached to her belt. Mk 2 grenades are also used by Genome Soldiers in the ''MGS1'' nightmare sequence if Snake enters a vent during an alert.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mk 2 hand grenade|Mk 2 "Pineapple" high-explosive fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the PMC commercial, one of the fighting-or-something women produces a Mk 2 grenade from her belt.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grey object visible above the Genome Soldier's left hand is the fuze of a Mk 2 grenade. Since the ''MGS1'' soldiers always have a rifle in their right hand, they are shown pulling the pins with their mouth; apparently Big Boss' superior soldier genes include some for superior soldier teeth.]]

==Molotov cocktail==

Molotov cocktails, referred to as "Petro Bomb" in game, are used in place of grenades by rebel soldiers in the first two Acts, and can be picked up by Snake, functioning as less effective versions of the WP grenade which ignite on impact.

[[Image:MGS4-Molotov.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Petro Bomb" on the item menu.]]

==Valmera 69==

An Italian Valmera 69 bounding anti-personnel mine is featured as the "S.G. Mine," with SG presumably standing for "Sleep Gas." These contact-triggered mines instantly knock out anyone who triggers them, including Snake himself, though they can be triggered with gunfire or defused by crawling over them or picking them up with Metal Gear Mk. 2. Some are found in the Advent Palace hotel in the first Act.

[[Image:130705-004-42B40A6D.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Italian Valmera 69 land mine (centre).]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"S.G. Mine" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apparently showing up as hot on thermal isn't enough for these mines, which are also concealed through clever application of a bright blue body and a big silly light on the top.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the unlikely case that Snake manages to trigger one, the entire mine jumps into the air; this is incorrect, as the Valmera, like most bounding mines, has an outer body containing the bounding body and propelling charge; only the bounding body should jump into the air.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake does not have time to consider this, due to the loss of his entire Psyche gauge and the resultant urgent need for a nap.]]

==Unknown land mine==

An unknown land mine is available as a remote-triggered sleeping gas bomb called the "S.G. Satchel."

[[Image:MGS4-Satchel.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"S.G. Satchel" on the item menu.]]

=Mounted Weaponry=

==BGM-71 TOW==

The bipedal "Gekko" unmanned weapons are sometimes equipped with a launch unit for two [[BGM-71 TOW]] missiles on one of their weapon mounting points. These weapons are never usable by the player.

[[Image:Tow 07.jpg|thumb|none|400px|BGM-71 TOW mounted on M220 tripod - 152mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-TOW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake is ambushed by a "Gekko" unmanned vehicle crashing through a wall, equipped with an M2 Browning heavy machine gun and twin TOW launch tubes.]]
[[Image:MGS-TOW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After Snake successfully evades the easily-fooled Gekko, they are called away.]]

==Browning M2HB==

The [[M2HB]] is mounted on Stryker APC and MGS variants and HMMWVs in game, and is also the principle dorsal armament of the Gekko bipedal IFVs. They can also occasionally be found mounted in fixed emplacements.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Praying Mantis PMC's "Gekko" unmanned vehicles, armed with a Protector M151 Remote Weapon Station and twin BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missiles. The Gekko also mounts a lighter machine gun in the "beak," but this is completely concealed by armour and impossible to identify.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Strykers in ''MGS4'' also mount the Protector M151 Remote Weapon Station, equipped with an M2 Browning heavy machine gun.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Pieuvre Armement PMC Stryker is seen at the start of the second Act.]]
[[File:MGS4M2HB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake mans a Browning M2HB on top of Drebins Stryker at the end of Act 2.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the third Act, the Raven Sword PMC makes extensive use of HMMWV ("Humvee") light trucks armed with Browning M2 heavy machine guns. While the Young Snake disguise won't get Snake by these, apparently Colonel Campbell is allowed out and about after curfew.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The combined US Army / Marine taskforce sent to deal with Liquid Ocelot on the Volta in Act 3 turn up in force, including a number of Mark V Special Operations Craft, each armed with four M2 heavy machine guns mounted on the sides of the rear deck.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Liquid Ocelot's boat in Act 3 is a Swedish-designed Combat Boat 90 modified to mount a turret with what appear to be a pair of tank cannons. More normal for the class are the twin M2 Browning heavy machine guns mounted in a compartment forward of the helmsman's position, and visible here behind the FROG soldier on the left.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun cameras on Shadow Moses in Act 4 are based on the M2, with a shortened barrel and a rather undersized drum.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sneaks up on a mounted M2 Browning during the game's second Act. Knowing Snake's stealthy ways, it will later find it has much less ammo and is pointed in a different direction, and will never figure out why.]]
[[File:MGS4M2HB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2 Browning mounted on Drebin's Stryker.]]

==General Electric M134 Minigun==

During the second Act, soldiers of the Pieuvre Armement PMC are seen wearing suits of powered armour equipped with [[GE M134]] miniguns on their right arms.

[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two power suits are visible at the top of the shot, both with arm-mounted miniguns.]]

==General Electric M61A1 Vulcan==

Secondary armament of Metal Gears Rex and Ray is a pair of [[M61 Vulcan]] 20mm rotary guns; Ray mounts them on the tips of the two wing-like underwater propulsion units on its shoulders, while Rex mounts them under the projections either side of the pilot's "beak." While the latter is claimed to be 30mm by the game, Metal Gear Rex has not changed size since Otacon called them "Vulcan cannons" in ''MGS1'' and the weapons are not large enough to be GAU-8s. The battleship USS ''Missouri'' also mounts M61 vulcans in her Phalanx CIWS installations.

[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg|thumb|none|400px|General Electric / General Dynamics M61 Vulcan - 20mm.]]
[[Image:Phalanx.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GE M61 Vulcan in a Phalanx mounting - 20mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The damaged cover of Metal Gear Rex's left-hand gun shows it to be a six-barrelled M61 Vulcan, despite the game labelling it as a much larger seven-barrelled 30mm GAU-8.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As in ''MGS2'', Metal Gear Ray's Vulcans are mounted at the tips of the two propulsor "wings," forcing the vehicle to position itself incredibly awkwardly to fire. Here, Ray opens fire on Metal Gear Rex in the finale of the fourth Act.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the final Act, Snake's base of operations becomes the USS ''Missouri'', which is recreated in loving detail and the subject of many dramatic shots. Here, a shot of the ''Missouri's'' flank as she approaches the submarine arsenal ship ''Outer Haven'' shows off her Mark 12 5-inch/38 calibre dual-purpose guns, angled RGM-84 Harpoon launch tubes and two of the M61A1 Vulcan cannons in Phalanx installations on her superstructure.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As Outer Haven launches a volley of Harpoon anti-ship missiles at the USS ''Missouri'', "Mighty Mo" responds with her dual-purpose guns and Phalanx installations.]]

== Kalashnikov PKT ==

During the first Act, the rebels assault Praying Mantis PMC positions with a Russian BMP-3 IFV. The BMP-3 is the world's most heavily armed IFV, packing in a 2A70 100mm low velocity gun / missile launcher, a coaxial 2A72 30mm autocannon, six 81mm 902V "Tucha" smoke grenade launchers and three [[PK Machine Gun|PKT machine guns]], one coaxial and two bow-mounted.

[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun with 250-round ammo drum - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:MGS4-BMP3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The rebel BMP makes a grand entrance, firing off its bow-mounted PKT machine guns.]]
[[Image:MGS4-BMP3-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|If Snake has been nice to the rebels, this is a happy sight; if not, it may be time to be ''really'' stealthy.]]

==M224 Mortar==

During the first two Acts, a number of [[M224 Mortar]]s set up by rebel forces can be found and used by the player; these are aimed with a HUD indicator showing the round's trajectory, ending in an area-of-effect circle at the point of detonation. They have infinite ammunition.

[[Image:M224-60mm-mortar.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M224 Mortar - 60mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mortar.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake discovers the hard way that the mortar wasn't designed to be used as a pillow.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mortar-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vowing to never speak of his bad sleeping experience again, Snake decides to dispose of any witnesses, dropping a 60mm round into his M224 mortar after sighting up a hapless PMC soldier manning an M2 Browning.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mortar-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake admires his handiwork and shows off his amazingly flexible definition of "sneaking mission."]]

==M230 Chaingun==

PMC hybrid helicopters based on the Boeing X-50 Dragonfly aircraft / helicopter concept are armed with a chin-mounted [[M230 Chain Gun]].

[[Image:Hughes-M230-Chain-Gun3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hughes/Alliant Techsystems M230 Chain Gun - 30mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M230-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PMC attack helicopter comes in to support Praying Mantis troops during the first level, showing off its chin-mounted M230. While these helicopters appear many times during the game, they never receive a name.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M230.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sights up a PMC attack helicopter with his VSS Vintorez as it fires its chaingun at rebels nearby. This is unlikely to end well for him.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M230-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the PMC hybrid helicopters in "jet" mode. They are never encountered like this during gameplay, only during the early cutscenes of Act 1. It's worth noting that the real X-50 Dragonfly program was axed due to "inherent design flaws," with neither prototype ever successfully transitioning from rotary-wing to fixed-wing flight.]]

==M240C==

The [[FN_MAG#M240_Machine_Gun|M240C]] is seen mounted coaxially on the remaining Abrams tank in Shadow Moses Island's tank hangar.

[[Image:M240C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M240C vehicle coaxial-mount version - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M240C.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake admires the remaining Abrams in the tank hangar, standing under the M256 120mm L/44 main gun. Note the CIS mounted on top of the turret right of the commander's Browning M2; apparently the magical elves which have been maintaining Metal Gear Rex since the island was abandoned took time out to update ''MGS1's'' M1A1 to A2 standard.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M240C-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view from the upper walkway of the tank hangar. ''MGS4'' doesn't take sides on whether the Abrams in the first game had two Browning M2s as in ''Metal Gear Solid'' or an M2 and an M240D as in ''Twin Snakes''; the remaining tank in the hangar has no loader's weapon at all.]]

== Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B ==

Liquid Snake's crashed Hind-D can be found in the snowfield around the Comm Towers in Act 4, with the chin-mounted [[Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B]] gatling gun buried in the snow. Other Hinds can be seen in the PMC advertisements at the very beginning of the game; at least one of those seen, however, is a Hind-A which would have a different, single-barrel chin gun.

[[Image:Yakb.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B machine gun - 12.7mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Hind-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake finds the crashed Hind-D in a corner of the snowfield. "Bad dog! What did Snake tell you about destroying the helicopter?"]]
[[Image:MGS4-Hind-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During one of the introduction's confusing PMC commercials, an Mi-24 Hind-A is briefly visible circling two people in vaguely Middle-Eastern dress; it can be identified as such by the early "greenhouse" side-by-side cockpit rather than the later twin bubble canopy. This means it would mount a single-barrel gun rather than a Yak-B; it is included here for the sake of noting this.]]

=Other=

=="Rail Gun"==

The fictional handheld railgun used by Fortune in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty|MGS2]]'' returns in ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' attached to the quadrupedal armour of B&B Corps member Crying Wolf; the weapon is mounted to the "Beast" armour's shoulder, and can only be used when the cockpit is open. Following the battle, the railgun is made available to the player for free; it features a 3-step charge up activated by aiming the weapon and a digital scope with a charge level indicator. The gun no longer has the issues with runaway firing described in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', where it was stated the project was cancelled for this reason and only Fortune with her "good luck" could use it effectively. Despite the railgun being roughly the size of a motorcycle, it apparently still somehow fits inside the foot-tall Metal Gear Mk. 2.

The railgun itself seems to have been created using either the same wooden motion capture prop as the one used for ''Metal Gear Solid 2's'' MoCap work or a reproduction of it; the design incorporates elements of a number of experimental and prototype high-tech weapons, but the weapon as a whole is a work of fiction.

[[Image:MGS4-Railgun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Railgun" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake continues to make a mockery of the idea that he keeps his inventory in anything resembling a backpack.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the railgun; note the magazine in Snake's left hand is proportioned like a pistol mag, since it only contains projectiles with no propellant.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake uses the scope of the railgun to sight up a Gekko hanging from the ceiling in Shadow Moses' casting and rolling facility. The horizontal bars fill in as it charges, while the lower vertical bar is an ammunition counter.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With the Railgun slung over the right shoulder, Crying Wolf's quadrupedal "beast" armour manages the entirely impossible feat of stopping and then lifting a Caterpillar D9 bulldozer with an Israeli-standard up-armour package. This vehicle weighs as much as a main battle tank, and no matter how strong the "beast" is its legs would dig into the ground before it could ever hope to pull this off.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Three Acts later, Crying Wolf takes aim at Snake in the snowfield on Shadow Moses island; strangely, in this cutscene the railgun has an analog zoom on the scope rather than the two-setting digital zoom it has when Snake uses it. This is also the only time the railgun is seen with the armature extended when it isn't being charged.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake hefts the railgun as he prepares to take on a force of Gekko bent on destroying Metal Gear Rex's hangar. Despite that he could barely lift it when he picked it up after defeating Crying Wolf, he uses it just fine the rest of the time.]]

==Tanegashima==

A Japanese clone of a Portugese muzzleloading matchlock arquebus design, this is basically a joke weapon that can only be reloaded while standing, taking a lot of time to do so for only moderate damage and accuracy; costing one million Drebin Points, it's a very expensive joke at that. However, there is a one-third chance that when the Tanegashima is fired outdoors it will instead fire a gigantic whirlwind which knocks enemies down and scatters items everywhere. It is extremely silly.

[[Image:TanegashimaGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Japanese "Tanegashima" matchlock arquebus. Tanegashima was the site of the first contact Japan had with European traders, and these firearms were copies of traded Portugese guns.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Tanegashima" arquebus on the item menu. Note this weapon is rather ridiculously placed in the "assault rifle" class.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aims down the iron sight of his Tanegashima arquebus. Note that only one end of the match is lit; typically on a real matchlock, both ends would be lit in case one was extinguished accidentally.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading involves a suitable amount of fiddling around with the weapon's ramrod, followed by a series of hard-to-make-out actions which are presumably refilling the flash pan, resetting the serpentine and replacing the match.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sometimes it's even worth it.]]

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Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

2011-10-25T14:03:58Z

Crimsonsguns: Updated M4 custom article with more accurate information

[[Image:MGS4poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'' (2008)]]

''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'' is a 2008 stealth-action / third-person shooter video game directed by Hideo Kojima, developed by Kojima Productions and published by Konami. It concludes the saga of the character Solid Snake (now known as Old Snake). Set in the year 2014 following the events of the previous games, the storyline takes Snake through a series of warzones where rebels are fighting hired PMC soldiers as part of an ongoing "War Economy" engineered by a mysterious organization known as "The Patriots." Snake's mission is to uncover a plot by his old nemesis Liquid Snake, now seemingly reborn in the body of the gunman Revolver Ocelot, and set on bringing down the "System," an apparently invincible computer network which controls the world.

'''The following weapons can be seen in the video game ''Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots'':'''

'''Note: Spoilers are present in some weapon descriptions.'''

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=Overview=

[[Image:MGS4-Intro.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Snake admires the place he's going to keep enough weaponry to outfit a company.]]
''Metal Gear Solid 4'' uses a split inventory system where the player character, Old Snake, can equip up to six weapons, which are then available using a quick-access menu; this is explained as Snake's "backpack," despite that he is not actually wearing one. The rest can be accessed via the pause menu, this swapping explained in-game as the TARDIS-like depths of Metal Gear Mark 2, a foot-tall robot which seemingly has no issues containing more or less every weapon on this page along with enough ammunition to destroy Belgium. Snake's currently equipped weapons each count their weight towards a total for all gear; heavy loads will cause his "stress" meter to rise faster when he moves around. Only weapons count towards weight; ammunition is treated as weighing nothing. This gets bizarre with disposable systems where each reload is a whole weapon in itself but all except the currently held one are treated as weightless "ammunition;" for example, only one of the fifty LAWs Snake can be carrying actually weighs anything for purposes of inventory weight.

Weapons can be found in the environment, but often feature biometric ID locks which prevent unauthorized use. To remove these, Snake can access a "gun launderer" by the name of Drebin and exchange points earned for the "war price" of repeatedly collected weapons, allowing him to purchase ammunition, buy new weapons and accessories, or unlock already collected ID-locked weapons for use. Drebin is explained as having an inside line to the "System" which controls the ID chips so he can replace existing chips with factory blanks (the process leading to the pun of the character called Drebin saying he sells "[[Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!, The|Naked Guns]]"), but in reality such an operative would quickly find himself driven out of business by rogue gunsmiths simply replacing the ID lock parts with the original mechanical ones and bypassing the "System" entirely.

The game removes the "Tactical Reload" option of previous games where unequipping and re-equipping a weapon would instantly reload it; weapons now actually have to be reloaded properly. The animations have an odd quirk: apparently between games, Snake has decided to start practicing the "Middle Eastern Technique" mentioned in ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' of always chambering a new round when reloading, even when performing a mid-magazine reload. Despite this being described as a pistol shooting technique, he does it with every weapon ''except'' pistols; they are correctly shown ejecting an unfired round when he does it unless the magazine was totally spent when he reloaded. This seems largely done to explain what happens to the "extra" round that was in the chamber.

The game features an accessory system for weapons, with certain guns able to be customised; this is rather inconsistent, with many weapons not able to receive any modifications at all while only a handful have more than one or two accessory points, the majority limited to either an optional suppressor, underbarrel launcher or taclight. The showcase of the system is Snake's signature "M4 Custom" rifle, which can accept the largest number of accessories of any weapon. Shotguns and most grenade launchers also feature multiple types of ammunition, and weapons typically feature selectable fire modes if they have them in real life.

Accessory tactical weapon lights are shown rather strangely in game; apparently Snake has a fundamentalist attitude towards light discipline and maintains it ''everywhere'', even in broad daylight. This means taclights will only be flashed on and off briefly regardless of what the player wants; the result is only really useful for briefly blinding guards if Snake points the light in their face at extremely close range.

=Handguns=

==Custom M1911==

Big Boss's highly customised [[M1911_pistol_series|M1911]] from [[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater|Operation Snake Eater]] can unlocked via entering a password. Being an unlockable "special" weapon, it deals more damage than the other .45 ACP handguns. The Custom M1911 can be fitted with its own unique degradable suppressor; it is not compatible with the ones for Snake's Springfield Operator.

[[Image:1911custom.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A reproduction of Big Boss' custom M1911 - .45ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-M1911Cus-HQ.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"1911 Custom" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-1911Cus-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads Big Boss' custom M1911, resisting his genes telling him to first have a three-minute CODEC call about how awesome it is.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mark22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In a painting in Big Mama's church, Big Boss brandishes his custom M1911.]]

==EAA Tanfoglio Thor .45-70==

The Thor .45-70 is a highly accurate and incredibly powerful single-shot bolt action pistol (referred to in the description as a "hand rifle") that must be manually chambered after every firing. It is Liquid Ocelot's signature weapon, both in singleplayer and multiplayer; in the singleplayer story he only actually fires it once, and his outfit does not display it openly as previous game did with his revolvers. It can be unlocked and used by the player by either earning the Foxhound emblem or entering a code, and comes with a unique red dot sight; this cannot be removed, and the weapon has no other customisation options.

[[Image:THOR .45-70.jpg|thumb|400px|none|EAA Tanfoglio Thor - .45-70]]
[[Image:MGS4-Thor.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Thor .45-70 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Thor-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Facing Snake on the non-existent Volta River, Ocelot pulls his Thor from an unspecified location inside his coat...]]
[[Image:MGS4-Thor-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...And prepares to fire the only shot he ever fires from it. Though in spite of his line, not at Snake.]]

==FN Five-seveN==

The [[FN Five-seveN]] is the standard sidearm for Liquid Ocelot's elite FROG special operations unit (FROG standing for absolutely nothing), and is also one of the weapons used by Dwarf Gekko drones. It can be bought from Drebin, taken from a destroyed Dwarf Gekko, or taken from a FROG by disarming them of their primary weapon and then killing them or knocking them out. Since it shares ammunition with the fairly common P90, it is unlikely to have problems with ammunition, and it has a large magazine. However, it cannot mount a suppressor, the only option being a tactical light. The presence of the weapon is a reference to ''Metal Gear: Ghost Babel'' and the ''Ac!d'' games, where it is Solid Snake's primary weapon.

[[Image:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN Five-seveN - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Five-Seven.jpg|thumb|601px|none|FN Five-seveN on the item menu.]]

==Glock 18C==

The [[Glock#Glock_18|Glock 18C]] can be purchased from Drebin, has a 33-round magazine, and oddly enough, is the only 9x19mm handgun in the game. It can be customised with a tactical flashlight. The weapon is a reference to ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', where Fatman's weapon of choice (aside from bombs) was a Glock 18, albeit with an 19-round magazine instead. This handgun is also available in multiplayer.

[[Image:Pistol Austrian Glock 18 with 31 round magazine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 18C - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Glock.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Glock 18C on the item menu.]]

==Heckler & Koch Mark 23 Phase II Prototype==

The [[Heckler & Koch Mk 23 Mod 0|Heckler & Koch Mark 23 Phase II Prototype]] can be found in the game in Act 4; its status as Solid Snake's previous handgun in the original ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' is noted. It is also used in the Raven Sword PMC commercial in the introduction, and is seen in the holsters of Meryl's Rat Patrol soldiers and Raiden. The SOCOM presented in ''MGS1'', ''MGS2'' and ''MGS4'' is the Phase II model prototype submitted for trials in the USSOCOM Offensive Handgun Weapon System (OHWS) competition around the later part of 1991, and not the actual production model Mark 23 Mod 0. It is distinguished by small cocking serrations on the front of the slide, which the production model, Mod 0, does not have. The Mark 23 mounts the distinctive blocky LAM under the barrel as in previous games, and can also be fitted with a degradable suppressor. The Mark 23 is the subject of a number of the game's "Easter eggs," including being found almost exactly where it was in the original game. This is the only place it can be found in the campaign, and it is never available from Drebin; the only other way to unlock it is via a cheat code.

This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is also the only firearm that the special character Raiden is equipped with.

[[Image:SOCOM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Tokyo-Marui '''Airsoft replica''' of the H&K Mark 23 Phase II Prototype - (fake) .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk23.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Mark 23 Phase II Prototype on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk23-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Old Snake:''' ''"Just like old times . . . "'' Old Snake holds his Mark 23 Phase II Prototype as he stands in front of Shadow Moses Island's tank hangar and remembers the good old days.]]
[[Image:MGS4-UnknownPistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny Sasaki (who actually uses a GSR) and the other members of the Rat Patrol have "holster stuffers" that resemble Mark 23, save for Meryl who for reasons best known to herself just wears the empty holster. The model used is fairly inaccurate for a Mark 23, having a metallic tang like a Desert Eagle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk23-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raiden uses the same holster model except in black, though he's always too busy using his sword and heap of knives to bother with his handgun. His cybernetic body makes him look pretty cool until you get to his feet which have high heels for reasons only known to Konami.]]

==IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX==

The [[Desert Eagle]], simply called the "D.E." is used by Meryl Silverburgh ingame. It can be purchased from Drebin, or occasionally picked up from the "Dwarf Gekko" drones (who amazingly have the strength to fire it accurately from one undersized mechanical hand). A 10-inch barrelled variant with a scope can be unlocked, and is also used by Meryl. A bizarre glitch is that when Snake reloads the long-barrel Desert Eagle, rather than just holding a magazine he is holding an entire second gun in his other hand. Additionally, there is a second glitch where Meryl's slide will lock back and she will not play the reload animation. There may or may not be a round loaded when the second glitch happens; her remaining rounds can't be seen, so it is hard to tell.

This weapon is available in the game's multiplayer mode, Metal Gear Online. Players using Meryl's character online who equip a standard Desert Eagle in the pistol slot and the long-barrelled variant in the primary weapon slot will allow her to switch from one gun to another when the first is empty, without ever pausing to reload.

[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|400px|none|IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX - .50 AE]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Desert Eagle on the item menu. Note Magnum Research's new barrel with a Picatinny rail. The rail cannot be used on this version, however.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Meryl's special 10"-barrelled Desert Eagle with a scope on the item menu.]]
[[File:MerylDEMGS4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl aims her Desert Eagle at Old Snake upon first encountering him. Despite likely wearing her balaclava up until this point, she removes it and does not use it for the rest of the game. The Meryl special character in multiplayer, however, can remove and re-don her balaclava at any time, as can Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl holds her regular Desert Eagle in the Advent Palace. She tends to use the normal one indoors, saving the 10-inch scoped version for outdoors. This relatively sensible choice doesn't really mitigate the bigger issue of using a pair of hand-cannons in the first place.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Desert Eagle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He then re-Deagles his long-barrelled Desert Eagle. This error is most likely caused by forgetting to separate the magazine and weapon objects in the game's files. Meryl's character in Metal Gear Online does not possess this glitch when reloading this weapon on its own.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first sight of Meryl's specially modified Desert Eagle is, oddly enough, on a monitor in the back of Drebin's Stryker.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|By only carrying two Desert Eagles, Meryl fails "rifleman" on two counts, though she might make a passable futuristic pistolier. Note the unusual holster necessitated by her 10"-barrel Desert Eagle's scope mount.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Deagle-LB-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the "System" shuts down for the first time, everyone except Johnny Sasaki suffers a psychological breakdown; this includes Meryl, who drops her long-barrel Desert Eagle as she collapses.]]
[[File:MGS4DesertEagleLongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Screaming Mantis forces Meryl to hold her long-barrelled Desert Eagle to her head, which is a reference to the original [[Metal Gear Solid]] when Psycho Mantis did the same thing to Meryl.]]
[[File:MGS4DE-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl fires her Desert Eagle at FROG soldiers inside Outer Haven.]]
[[File:MGS4DE-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl and Johnny fire a brace of handguns at the FROGs, Meryl wielding her standard and long barrelled Desert Eagles, while Johnny fires a Desert Eagle he got from Drebin along with his SIG-Sauer GSR.]]

== Luger P08 "Artillery Model" ==

During the bizarre live-action introduction sequences, one of the channels shows a PMC advertisement with two people in Middle Eastern-style robes hovering in mid-air as the camera circles around them. The one in white is armed with a long-barrelled "Artillery Model" [[Luger P08]].

[[Image:LugerP08Artillery.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm. This is the long barrelled "Artillery" model of the Luger P08 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|One of the two strange combatants during the intro's PMC commercial holds up her long-barrelled Luger P08.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Luger, with the toggle lock visible.]]

==Makarov PMM==

The [[Makarov PM#Makarov PMM|Makarov PMM]] is used by the rebel "mark" Snake has to track during the third Act, and can be purchased from Drebin. It is also the sidearm of the Paradise Lost resistance group as a whole, though they are only seen using it in cutscenes. There is little to be said for it; it uses uncommon ammunition, cannot be customised or suppressed, and really seems to only be in the game to give the rebels in Act 3 a suitably Eastern European sidearm.

[[Image:Makarov PMM.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Makarov PMM - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Makarov PMM on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Paradise Lost member draws his PMM as Snake enters their safehouse.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Makarov isn't exactly a Walther PPK, but then Snake isn't exactly James Bond, either.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Revisiting the Blast Furnace on Shadow Moses in Act 4, Snake takes on the army of Dwarf Gekko which now live there. Despite the name, the area does not actually contain a blast furnace: perhaps "Two Pools of Molten Metal Room" didn't have the same ring to it.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PMM-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Makarov PMM.]]

== Mk22 Mod 0 "Hush Puppy" ==

In the third Act, a painting of Big Boss brandishing his M1911 Custom with his Mk22 Mod 0 (Navy modified [[Smith & Wesson Model 39]]) holstered is briefly focused on.

[[Image:Mk22 Mod 0.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mk22 Mod 0 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mark22.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Big Boss brandishes his M1911 Custom, with his Mark 22 holstered.]]

==PSS==

The [[PSS Silent Pistol|PSS]] can be found in several areas throughout the game or bought from Drebin; Drebin seems to have an odd fondness for this weapon, and it commands a premium price when found. It uses 6-round magazines with special "silent" 7.62x42mm ammunition, making it a lethal counterpart to the MK. 2 tranquilizer pistol (neither has a degradable suppressor).

[[Image:Pistol Russian PSS in 7.62x41mm SP-4 special purpose noiseless cartridge.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PSS Silent Pistol - 7.62x42mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|PSS silent pistol on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Literally two dozen yards from the end of the first Act, Snake uses his PSS Silent Pistol to make a Praying Mantis soldier silent.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The threat dealt with, he reloads his weapon.]]

=="Race Gun"==

The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racegun Race Gun] is based on Strayer Voigt Inc's 1911-styled double stack pistols; it is not even close to a modern high-end race gun, with only the choice of ammunition really distinguishing it as anything unusual. The gun holds 19 rounds in 9x23mm Winchester which is a moderately powered pistol cartridge; the game's version, for reasons which are never particularly apparent, uses rounds lightly loaded with smokeless powder, providing barely enough force to cycle the gun's mechanism. In game terms, this means the low-powered bullets will ricochet off hard surfaces and can be used for the "trick shots" showcased by Revolver Ocelot with his Colt Single Action Army in previous games; the result is basically just a gimmick gun for showing off, and is useless in practical terms thanks to its low damage stats (which appropriately reflect the stopping power of such underloaded ammunition). Once the game is completed at least once, the pistol will be unlocked automatically. The Race Gun cannot be customised.

[[Image:SVI_Infinity.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Strayer Voigt Inc Infinity pistol - 9x23mm Winchester]]
[[Image:MGS4-Racegun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Race Gun" on the item menu.]]

==Ruger Mk. II==

An integrally suppressed, manually operated fictional variant of the [[Ruger Mk II Pistol]], that fires tranquilizer rounds and has grips with a built-in laser sight and what appears to be a carbon-fibre barrel / upper receiver. It is given to Solid Snake by Otacon early in the game. After the game is completed, it is also able to fire fictional "Emotion" darts which induce one of the game's four psychological states (Cry, Laugh, Rage and Scream) in the target before knocking them out. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger Mk II pistol with professional Ciener Suppressor - .22 LR. This is a classic Silenced Pistol and this pistol has been seen in several motion pictures]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Mk. 2 Pistol" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Ruger Mk. II is presented to Snake using Metal Gear Mk. II's manipulator, Otacon seemingly having decided to give Snake two Mk. IIs for the price of one. Note laser sight grips.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the bolt of his custom Ruger Mk. II. This weapon is the successor to ''MGS2'' and ''MGS3's'' tranquilizer guns, and as in those games is manually operated.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Ruger-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After giving a Praying Mantis PMC soldier a hard-earned rest, Snake reloads his Ruger Mk. II.]]

==Shansi Type 17==

Used by Big Mama, this is a Chinese made version of the [[Mauser C96]], chambered for .45 ACP ammunition. The Type 17 can be fired in semi-auto or, incorrectly, full-auto (the real Type 17 never had select-fire capability), and uses a 10-round fixed magazine loaded with a single 10-round stripper clip. It lacks any customisation options (not even able the option to mount its well-known stock) and also cannot be reloaded until it is totally empty. It can be unlocked by earning the Hound emblem at the end of the game, or through entering a code. While this is the weapon Big Mama used in her previous guise as Eva in ''Metal Gear Solid 3'', it is not the same Type 17, since that one was lost during the motorcycle chase. Big Mama uses this weapon to destroy three Dwarf Gekko drones which manage to infiltrate her European hideout.

[[Image:C96-10.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Shansi Type 17 with unfired rounds and 5-round stripper clips - .45 ACP. The game version uses a single 10-rounder, common for other C96 versions, but the Chinese copies were usually issued with 5-rounders which allowed them to be reloaded once five or more rounds had been fired.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Shansi.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Type 17 on the item menu. Note the undersized fire-selector borrowed from the [[Mauser C96#Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer|Mauser M712 Schnellfeuer]] above and to the right of the trigger; the Shansi Type 17 in reality is not select-fire and thus has no such switch.]]
[[File:MGS4ShansiType17-0.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Mama continues to use the method of "Bandit Shooting" that she utilised in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'', turning the gun sideways to clear rooms in a horizontal sweep. This is probably the only way to take the impractical "Gangsta" style shooting and make it practical.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Shansi-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After taking out three Dwarf Gekko drones, Big Mama strikes a pose with her Shansi Type 17.]]

==SIG-Sauer GSR==

The [[M1911 pistol series|SIG-Sauer GSR]] is the standard sidearm for all four of the game's Private Military Companies, and is also used by the small "Dwarf Gekko" drones. Any PMC soldier disarmed of his primary weapon will draw his GSR; the weapon can also be purchased from Drebin or found in a side-room in the first Act. The GSR uses the common .45 ACP round, but is inferior to Snake's default Springfield Operator due to being unable to mount a suppressor (though it does have the advantage of a slightly higher magazine capacity compared to the Operator).

This weapon is available in multiplayer, and if the "Drebin Points" option is not enabled, the GSR will become the only lethal pistol available to players who are not using unique storyline characters.

[[Image:SIG-Sauer GSR M1911.jpg|thumb|400px|none|SIG-Sauer GSR - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SIG-Sauer GSR on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Investigating a group of dead PMC soldiers in a side-room of the rebel safehouse in Act 1, Snake finds a discarded GSR on the floor.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun rack in Drebin's Stryker includes two GSRs, two unloaded Glock 18Cs, and in the rack further down a pair of SCAR-H CQC rifles and two copies of Snake's M4A1 Custom; beyond them is a barely-visible AK-102 and a pair of LAWs. Several of these weapons are low-detail since they are part of the Stryker model rather than copies of the normal model. The two boxes between the pistol and rifle racks are the generic model for "custom parts" and are used for both weapon accessories and accessory weapons such as the GP-30 and Masterkey.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GSR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the system breaks down at the end of the first Act, a PMC soldier equipped with a GSR in his leg holster attempts to give Snake a hug. Note also the two large pouches for M67 hand grenades on his belt.]]
[[File:MGS4SIGGSR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny fires his GSR at FROG soldiers onboard Outer Haven.]]
[[File:MGS4SIGGSR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl picks up Johnny's GSR and fires it after he is wounded.]]
[[File:MGS4SIGGSR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mei Ling, Captain of the USS ''Missouri'' and returning support character from the first MGS, cradles her GSR as her ship is attacked.]]

==Springfield Operator==

A customised [[M1911_pistol_series#Springfield_Armory_M1911_-_A1|Springfield Operator]] is Old Snake's signature handgun in ''Metal Gear Solid 4'', and the weapon he most commonly has equipped during cutscenes; it is clearly designed to resemble the custom M1911 used by Big Boss during the previous game, though it is by no means identical. It is given to him for free (along with a [[Ruger Mk II Pistol]]) by Otacon early in the first Act of the game; Otacon comments that it was never integrated into the System, hence Snake's ability to use it before meeting Drebin. The Operator has the ability to mount both a tactical flashlight and a degradable suppressor, being one of only two pistols able to mount a suppressor and underbarrel accessory (the other being the Mark 23), and uses the very common .45 ACP round. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:PX9105MLP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Springfield Armory Loaded MC Operator - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Snake_.45.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Old Snake's Springfield Operator.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Springfield Operator on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Otacon presents the Operator to Snake, with the suppressor installed. Oddly, it tends to not be installed during cutscenes; while this might conceivably be done in case Snake has no suppressors left, Snake has no problem using it when he has no .45 ACP ''ammunition'' left.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Snake checks over his Operator after being presented it, first unloading it and examining the slide, then the fit of the suppressor, and finally pulling the trigger to let the hammer fall on the empty chamber.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He's soon merrily testing it out on the Praying Mantis PMC soldiers.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Operator; note the handle of his Stun Knife in his left hand. He frequently reloads weapons with this in his hand, as a nod to the CQC knife-and-gun techniques in ''Metal Gear Solid 3''.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Encountering Drebin, Snake keeps his unsuppressed Operator trained on the Gun Launderer, not eager to trust someone who hangs around with a weird hairless monkey thing.]]
[[File:MGS4OldSnakeSpringerOp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aims his Operator at Liquid Ocelot at the end of Act 1, unable to get a shot off due to his nanomachines being interfered with by Liquid Ocelot's failed attempt to login to the System using Liquid Snake's DNA.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Operator-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aims his Operator at Drebin's weird naked monkey-creature "Little Gray" as he wonders where it all went wrong.]]
[[File:MGS4SpringerOp-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Liquid Ocelot:''' ''"When it comes to CQC, I have the upper hand."'' Liquid Ocelot holds Snake's Operator on him after disarming him at the end of Act 3.]]
[[File:MGS4SpringerOp-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Old Snake:''' ''"One last punishment I must endure: erase my genes, wipe this meme from the face of the Earth. This is my final mission."'' Snake puts the barrel of his Operator in his mouth when preparing to commit suicide, a scene that is viewable right from the beginning of the game and requires completion of the game to fully explain. This screenshot provides a clear view of the laser activation switch on the slide release, and the Bomar-style rear sights.]]
[[File:MGS4SpringerOp-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Unable to commit suicide, Snake fires the only bullet into random space. Note that the slide locked back on an empty magazine follower, despite the fact that Snake only loaded one round in the chamber and then pocketed the magazine. This means the slide should be in battery.]]

=Submachine Guns=

This category in-game also includes the "Patriot" compact carbine, but that weapon is listed under assault rifles due to firing an intermediate round rather than a pistol round.

==FN P90==

The [[FN P90]] is the primary weapon of Liquid Ocelot's FROG commando unit and is also used by Laughing Octopus in-game; since the FROGs are a common enemy in the game, ammunition is fairly plentiful. The P90 correctly features an integral reflex sight on the carrying handle, and also has three accessory mounting points, able to fit a suppressor, laser aiming module and a tactical light. Unusually for a game, the 50-round polycarbonate magazine is correctly shown as translucent, and visibly empties as the weapon is fired in first person. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and if the "Drebin Points" option is enabled, it becomes the most expensive weapon of its type in that mode, thanks to its ease of use and plethora of customisation options.

[[Image:FNP90Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-P90.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FN P90 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-P90-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Liquid Ocelot's all-female special unit, the FROGs, carry P90s as standard-issue; this is in part a callback to the Arsenal Tengu troopers of ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2]]'', who wore similar armor and also wielded P90s. As with the Arsenal Tengus, the gas masks of the FROGs are apparently fake and offer them no protection against gas-based attacks.]]
[[File:MGS4P90-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up on the receiver of a suppressed P90. Looking down while lying prone with any gun gives this type of view.]]
[[Image:MGS4-P90-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the "Guns of the Patriots" sequence in Act 3, a group of FROG soldiers on Liquid's boat manage the impressive feat of firing their P90s for twenty solid seconds without ever once being shown reloading, implying they somehow managed to fit 300 rounds into a standard P90 magazine.]]
[[File:MGS4P90-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FROG soldier firing her P90.]]
[[File:MGS4P90-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up on a FROG's P90.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5SD2==

The [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5SD2]] can be purchased from Drebin and is equipped with an integral, non-degrading suppressor. However, the tradeoff is that it is one of the weakest weapons in the entire game, and uses the surprisingly uncommon 9x19mm round. This weapon is available in multiplayer, but cannot be customised. The appearance of this weapon is a reference to the "Integral" version of the original ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' for the Playstation 1 console that was sold only in Japan, where it was available on the Very Easy difficulty and had infinite ammunition.

[[Image:MP5SD5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD2 - 9x19mm, The one in-game has the older S-E-F trigger group.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MP5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MP5SD2 on the item menu.]]
[[File:MGS4MP5SD2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aiming down the sights of the MPSSD2.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP7A1==

The [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]] is used by several of the PMC operatives in game. It can be first found and used by the player in Act 2 and can be equipped with a unique red dot sight or the ACOG scope. For whatever reason, the weapon is depicted ingame as being distinctly inferior to the P90, lacking any option to attach a suppressor, tactical light, or laser sight (all of which it can use in real life). It is also stuck with using a low-capacity 20-round magazine ingame (intended for use for when the MP7 is issued as a select-fire, armour-piercing, backup weapon you can holster), instead of its more appropriate 40-round magazine variant (intended for use when the MP7 is issued as a primary weapon).

[[Image:Hk mp7 b-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 with Hensoldt RSA red dot sight - 4.6x30mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-MP7.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MP7A1 on the item menu.]]

==Izhmash PP-19 Bizon==

The [[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]] can be purchased from Drebin; the game claims it to be a "new Russian submachine gun," even though it was twelve years old when the game came out and is sixteen years old in the game's universe; the version in-game is not even a current model, instead being based on the earliest production model. The version in game is chambered for 9x18mm Makarov, which translates into a 64-round magazine capacity. The Bizon cannot be customised in the game, though it can be used one-handed during the motorcycle chase in Act 3.

[[Image:Bizon1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Early PP-19 Bizon - 9x18mm Makarov]]
[[Image:MGS4-Bizon.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Bizon on the item menu.]]

==MAC-10==

The [[MAC-10]] can be purchased from Drebin or found in Act 2. It can be equipped with a suppressor. Unlike most depictions, Snake actually uses both hands and the stock in-game.

[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|320px|none|Ingram MAC-10 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MGS4-M10.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MAC-10 as "M10" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M10-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires his MAC-10 during the motorcycle sequence of Act 3; apparently Big Mama doesn't mind him firing unsuppressed fully automatic weapons right next to her ear.]]

==Skorpion Vz 82==

The [[Skorpion_SA#SA Vz. 82 Skorpion|SA Vz. 82 Skorpion]] is used by Paradise Lost resistance members riding motorcycles in the Eastern Europe section of the game (Act 3), and is given to Old Snake by Big Mama in the same level. While called the "Vz. 83" ingame, the game shows it as being chambered in 9x18mm Makarov rather than .380 ACP, making it a Vz. 82. It comes equipped with a visible laser sight.

Its comparatively low magazine capacity of 20 rounds, low stats, and inability to be customised, coupled with the fact that FN P90s can be obtained for free much earlier ingame, make it arguably a weapon hardly-chosen by most players, so it's largely for the nostalgia factor in singleplayer (the very similar [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion]] made an appearance in Metal Gear Solid 3), though players can still take advantage of the fact that it's the submachinegun with highest lock-on in the game, being especially useful for one-shotting enemies during the Act 3 chase scene. Multiplayer, however, is a different story, as it is the only firearm in its inventory slot to be available free of charge (if Drebin Points are enabled) for non-unique player characters, as well as possessing the longest auto-aim lock-on range of any weapon in multiplayer modes.

[[Image:Scorpion SA Vz 82.jpg|thumb|none|330px|SA Vz. 82 Skorpion - 9x18mm Makarov.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Klobb.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Skorpion Vz 82 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Klobb-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Mama hands Snake a Vz 82 during the cutscene before the motorcycle escape sequence.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Klobb-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As usual, he inspects it before accepting.]]

=Shotguns=

Note: All shotguns in this game can use 00 buckshot, shotgun slugs, or non-lethal vortex ring ammunition.

==Remington 870 Custom==

A heavily customised [[Remington 870]] can be purchased from Drebin or found in the second Act; it comes with a Surefire dedicated forend WeaponLight as standard, and can also be equipped with an Aimpoint red dot sight or ACOG scope; if neither is fitted, it will have no sights at all, with Snake simply aiming along the top mounted-rail. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is the only weapon of its type in that mode if the "Drebin Points" option is not enabled.

[[Image:Model870P 14inlg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police "Entry Gun" with a SureFire dedicated forend WeaponLight - 12 gauge. The version in ''MGS4'' is further customised with a top rail instead of iron sights and a collapsible stock similar to the one used by the Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-870C.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"870 custom" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-870C-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FROG reels in confusion as Snake aims a pump-action RIS rail at her. "It's a shotgun, I swear!"]]
[[Image:MGS4-870C-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With the Aimpoint scope attached, the 870 Custom at least looks a bit more respectable.]]

== Remington 870 "MasterKey" ==

A short barrelled [[Remington 870]] configured like an [[Knight's Armament Masterkey]] is available as an attachment for the "M4 Custom" only, and can be found in the hands of PMC search teams; curiously, they have it equipped in a standalone configuration with a pistol grip and stock, raising the question of why they aren't just using a regular full-size shotgun instead. The inferior tube magazine capacity and lower effective range would make it far less useful than a full-sized shotgun for general use, and for close quarters combat or door breaching a purpose-built short shotgun would be a far more logical choice than issuing a rifle accessory which needs to be attached to ''another'' accessory to actually function.

[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:M4masterkey01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 carbine with Masterkey shotgun - 5.56mm & 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Kacsbsa.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Masterkey in standalone configuration.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4CMasterkey.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Masterkey accessory shotgun mounted to the M4 Custom on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Masterkey.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Old Snake's M4 Custom in full recoil as he uses his Masterkey to ruin someone's day.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Masterkey-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Satisified for now, Old Snake reloads his Masterkey.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Masterkey-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Attaching an accessory shotgun to a standalone grip is rather like buying an iPod and then nailing it to the side of a desktop PC.]]

==Saiga 12==

The [[Saiga-12]] can be purchased from Drebin. It is the only weapon of its type capable of semiautomatic fire, as well as the only one that uses a detachable box magazine (with a capacity of 8 rounds); along with very clear iron sights, this makes it distinctly superior to the other shotguns in more or less every regard. This weapon is available in multiplayer, but cannot be customised in the game.

[[Image:Saiga 12k-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Saiga-12K - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:MGS4-Saiga12.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Saiga 12 on the item menu, loaded here with less-lethal (in game terms, non-lethal) vortex ring rounds.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Saiga12-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Finding the Advent Palace hotel's kitchen infested with FROGs, Snake takes prompt action before an inspector shows up and shuts the place down.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Saiga12-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having done his bit for the community, Snake reloads his Saiga 12.]]

=="Twin Barrel"==

A [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun#Short barreled Side by Side Shotgun (Sawed Off)|sawed off side-by-side double barrel shotgun]], that can either be found in the game or purchased from Drebin. For some reason, Old Snake is restricted to using it with a one-handed grip. He can also only fire both barrels at once, though this is due to the shotgun only having a single trigger for both barrels.

[[Image:SS311A sawed-off-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed-off Baikal side-by-side shotgun - 12 gauge. Similar to the ''MGS4'' "Twin Barrel," though the latter has only a single trigger.]]
[[Image:MGS4-shotty.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Twin Barrel" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Shotty-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Paradise Lost member holds a sawed-off double-barrel shotgun on Snake as the old man breaks into their headquarters.]]

=Assault Rifles / Battle Rifles=

==AK-102==

The [[AK-47#AK-102|AK-102]] is used by the rebel forces in the Middle East section (Act 1), and is Solid Snake's first weapon in the game (next to Solid Snake right after the first cutscene after the opening). It can be equipped with a [[GP-30]] grenade launcher. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and if the "Drebin Points" option is enabled, the AK-102 becomes the cheapest assault rifle in that mode.

[[Image:AK102.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AK-102 carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102.jpg|thumb|none|601px|AK-102 on the item menu, fitted with a GP30 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|In the first Act, Snake only manages a short burst from his original militia-issued AK before it jams up on him, leaving him to discard it. An optional CODEC call reveals this was due to faulty locally-produced ammunition.]]
[[File:MGS4AK102-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires the AK-102 at Praying Mantis PMC troops.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his second AK-102. There are two slightly different AK-102 models used in game; the "hero" version used only in cutscenes has modelled bullets in the magazine, while the in-game is empty.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Snake reloads the "hero" AK model, with a more detailed magazine.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Menaced by Gekko, Snake still has time to strike a dramatic pose. He discards this AK shortly after this.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Snake encounters his third and last AK-102. Finding it on the ground next to a dead soldier, he carefully checks it for booby-traps before picking it up.]]

==AN-94==

The [[AN-94]] can be found in a shack at the beginning of Act 2 or purchased from Drebin. It can be equipped with a [[GP-30]] grenade launcher. The game correctly simulates the weapon's unusual mode of fully-automatic fire by first firing a 1,800 RPM two-round burst, before cycling the following rounds at 600 RPM. While it is powerful and accurate, it features a very poor iron sight and 5.45x39mm ammunition pickups are basically non-existent, with only a handful in the fourth Act. Its presence is a reference to ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', where Russian mercenaries under the command of Sergei Gurlukovich were equipped with the AN-94 during their attack on the Big Shell; unlike its previous incarnation, however, the AN-94 in this game cannot mount a tactical flashlight.

[[Image:Russian AN-94 Abakan Nikonov 5.45x39mm assault rifle 3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AN-94 Abakan Nikonov assault rifle - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94.jpg|thumb|601px|none|AN94 on the item menu, equipped with a GP-30 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94-3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Snake holds an AN-94 fitted with a GP-30 grenade launcher as he waits for an elevator in the abandoned Shadow Moses base's nuclear warhead storage building.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|While waiting, he amuses himself by using the hideously tiny iron sight of the AN-94 to shoot at some of the warheads that the US military left lying around when the base was abandoned in an extremely sensible fashion. Apparently the alteration to his nanomachines that prevented him doing so before is long past its shelf life.]]
[[Image:MGS4-AN94-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Luckily, the lethal radiation leak this used to cause has apparently also passed its shelf life and the warheads no longer care about being shot at, leaving Snake to smugly reload his weapon.]]

== AKS-74U ==

During the bizarre live-action introduction sequences, one of the channels shows a PMC advertisement with two people in Middle Eastern-style robes hovering in mid-air as the camera circles around them. The one in black is armed with an [[AK-74#AKS-74U|AKS-74U]].

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-74U (also referred to as the "AKSU" or 'Krinkov') - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AKS.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A strangely-dressed pair of live-action combatants duel in the air, one holding an AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A second shot of the AKS-74U. This seems to be one of those adverts where nobody can actually figure out what the product was after seeing it.]]

== FAMAS ==

The [[FAMAS]] is not usable in the game, but appears in flashbacks to ''Metal Gear Solid'', as well as the brief "nightmare" sequence of ''MGS1'' gameplay.

[[Image:FAMAS F2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FAMAS-G1 - 5.56x45mm. Older version of the G2 with magazine and magazine release system from FAMAS F1]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAMAS.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Meryl Silverburgh holds a FAMAS on Solid Snake during a flashback to the first game.]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAMAS-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|During the nightmare sequence at the start of Act 4, Snake is treated to some authentic ''MGS1'' gameplay, with the guards still armed with their low-detail FAMAS-G1s as in the original. Note the screen border; this is authentic, and suggests this sequence is the actual PS1 code being run in emulation mode by the PS3.]]

==FN FAL==

The [[FN FAL]], labelled the FAL Carbine, is seen in the hands of the rebel forces in the Eastern Europe section of the game (Act 3). It can be purchased from Drebin like most other firearms in the game. Its battle rifle cartridge makes it more powerful shot-for-shot than the ingame assault rifles, and its low rate of fire combined with the long range of its round allows effective full-auto fire from a much longer range, but it can't be customised.

[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FN FAL - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAL.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FN FAL on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having knocked out several Paradise Lost members, Snake brandishes a FAL he took from one and his Stun Knife, preparing to lay some CQC down.]]
[[Image:MGS4-FAL-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Paradise Lost group prepare to move out as Big Mama delivers a ridiculous speech about how first-person shooter games have trained her "children" to be soldiers. Good thing it's not third-person stealth games that did that.]]

==FN SCAR-H CQC==

The short-barrelled CQC variant of the [[FN SCAR#FN SCAR-H|FN SCAR-H]], referred to under its SOCOM "Mk. 17" designation, is the standard battle rifle used by the PMC troops ingame. It can be found fairly early on in Act 1 (simply by killing, subduing, sedating, or disarming PMC troops) up to Act 3, and can be upgraded with various optics, an AN/PEQ-5 laser sight, a flashlight and one of two vertical foregrips; it cannot, however, mount either of the NATO underbarrel accessory weapons or a suppressor. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:2fff2537c0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H CQC - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk17.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The FN SCAR-H on the item menu. Note the fire selector is always on semi-auto.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SCAR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his SCAR-H.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SCAR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Praying Mantis PMC soldiers retreat as "Gekko" unmanned vehicles are called in to take their place.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SCAR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At the end of the first Act, Snake sneaks into the main base of the Praying Mantis PMC. Circumstances conspire to make this a slightly less bad idea than would normally be expected.]]

==Heckler & Koch G3A3==

The [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] is seen in the hands of the leftist insurgents in the South America section of the game (Act 2). It can also be purchased via Drebin like most other firearms in the game, but cannot be customised. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|HK G3A3 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Boatanchor.jpg|thumb|none|601px|G3A3 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-G3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake uses the ACOG sight of his SCAR-H to admire the trigger discipline of a rebel soldier with a G3A3.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM8 Carbine==

The [[Heckler & Koch XM8]] is used by the Rat Patrol and other US troops in game, curiously still called XM8 even though it has obviously been formally adopted by the US military in ''Metal Gear Solid 4's'' world. It can be found by the player in a secluded area in Act 2, but cannot be purchased from Drebin. The version seen in game has an early XM8 flash hider with the rest of the features of the later model. It comes with a built-in red dot sight and can be equipped with an XM320 grenade launcher, but no other accessories. Meryl's team each have different versions of the rifle, two of which are not available to the player; Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki uses the compact carbine configuration, Johnathan uses the standard one with a grenade launcher, and Ed has the designated marksman variant. The standard version of the XM8 is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:XM8.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:Xm8 rightmed.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Early Heckler & Koch XM8 - 5.56x45mm NATO. Note "duckbill" flash hider and lack of four oval PCAP holes.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SpaceshipM320.jpg|thumb|none|601px|XM8 with an XM320 grenade launcher fitted, on the item menu. Note it uses an early "duckbill" flash hider rather than the later model's "birdcage," but has the later version's PCAP accessory mounting holes in the handguard.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The XM8, as in real life, features a red dot optic as standard; here Snake uses it to take out one of the PMC soldiers guarding the power station.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the charging handle of his XM8 after a reload.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnathan has a lie down with his XM8 with XM320. This is what is technically known as a bad idea.]]
[[File:MGS4XM8-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US Army soldier tries to pull the trigger on his XM8, but the ID lock has been changed by Liquid Ocelot, rendering the weapon useless.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact Carbine==

The [[Heckler_%26_Koch_XM8#Heckler_.26_Koch_XM8_Compact_Carbine|Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact Carbine]], the shortest configuration of the XM8, is used by Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki, a member of Meryl Silverburgh's "Rat Patrol" FOXHound unit. While Heckler & Koch marketed this version as the "PDW" configuration, it fires a full-sized assault rifle round, therefore is classified here as a rifle. It is unavailable in singleplayer, but the Johnny Sasaki unique character in multiplayer can use it, and is the only player character in that mode who can select it at the beginning of a match or when respawning. In this mode, it retains the standard variation's red dot sight, but cannot be customised.

[[Image:XM8CC.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM8 Compact Carbine with full stock - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8PDW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Old Snake:''' ''"You haven't even taken the safety off, rookie."'' '''Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki:''' ''"Careful, I'm no rookie! I'm a 10-year vet!"'' Johnny then bears out Snake's accusation by visually inspecting his weapon's safety rather than just flicking his thumb up and forward to ensure the safety is not still engaged or disengage it if it is.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8PDW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The result is fairly predictable, with Snake ambushing Johnny via CQC techniques before turning Johnny's weapon against him and his comrades. Note that since there's only one model for the weapon used in this cutscene, the safety is ''still'' on.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8PDW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny shows off the very "Future Force Warrior" look of the FOXHound unit's gear as he holds his XM8 Compact Carbine, including a backpack computer unit, a computer monitor integrated into his "shades," and a keyboard attached to his forearm. One very important piece of gear the Rat Patrol never wears, however, is a helmet.]]

==M4A1==

A customised [[M16_rifle_series#M4.2FM4A1_Carbine|M4A1]] is Solid Snake's assault rifle of choice and is given to him early in Act 1 by Drebin. In the first trailers, he instead steals it off a PMC soldier, and it is equipped with an EOTech 552 sight and a tan M230 40mm grenage launcher. In the actual game, it can be equipped with an Aimpoint Comp M2 red dot sight, an ACOG scope, a Surefire tactical flashlight, an AN/PEQ-5 CVL (carbine visible laser), a Knights Armament Company (KAC) or TangoDown vertical foregrip, a Remington 870 Masterkey underbarrel shotgun, a H&K XM320 grenade launcher and a KAC supressor. The sheer number of attachments, combined with excellent accuracy, low recoil and the abundance of 5.56mm ammo, makes this one of the best rifles available for a good bit into Act 3. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

The weapon itself is based on the M4A1 carbine with a 14.5" barrel, tan A2 pistol grip and tan LE 6-position buttstock. It is equipped as standard with Precision Reflex Industries (PRI) folding front and rear sights, a Troy Industries CQB flash hider ("CQC compatible") and a KAC free-floating RAS, rendered with a standard M4A1 handguard cap, most likely to reduce rendering loads.

Drebin makes a series of patently false claims about the M4A1 as shown; he tells Snake the barrel is free-floating ("of course") despite that the weapon's handguard is clearly not a free-float type, I is is and claims the weapon is "popular with the big PMCs" despite none ever using it, and claiming it is "the official carbine model used by US army" even though in the fiction the US Army is shown to have adopted the XM8. In early preview shots PMC soldiers were shown carrying M4A1s, but in the finished game they use SCAR-H CQC rifles.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M4A1 Carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4CMasterkey.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M4A1 on the item menu, fitted with a Masterkey accessory shotgun. Unusually for a videogame, mounting an optic will show the weapon with the sights folded down rather than removed entirely.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake is presented with the M4 by Drebin when they first meet as a gift to welcome him to the services of the Gun Launderer. Always one to look a possibly exploding horse in the mouth, Snake proceeds to thoroughly examine it. Note that despite Drebin's claim here, none of the PMCs use the M4 Custom at any point in the game.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake holds his M4 Custom, giving a good look at the rail handguard, flip-up sights and the high-detail magazine of the "hero" cutscene model.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After a minor diversion involving Snake's old nanomachines preventing the weapon firing (via a component he apparently didn't notice while stripping the weapon), Snake fires the M4 Custom.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M4-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the non-cutscene M4 reveals a distinct lack of bullets in the magazine.]]
[[File:MGS4M4Custom-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake prepares to squeeze off a shot a Vamp with his M4. Note that the fire selector is properly set to semi-auto, but in gameplay selector is always set to full-auto, even if the player selects a different firing mode.]]
[[File:MGS4M4Custom-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aiming his M4 at Vamp. Despite being right-handed, Snake does a pro job of setting up left-handed to remain behind cover, and makes good use of the wall for stability. Shortly thereafter he resumes his normal right-handed stance while turning the gun sideways, ejection port up, to fire at the PMCs guarding Vamp and Naomi.]]
[[Image:MGS4M4A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Old Snake wielding the M4A1 with an EOTech sight in early trailers; this accessory is not available in the final game.]]

=="Patriot"==

This custom full-auto-only AR-15-pattern carbine, seemingly based on an M231 Firing Port Weapon with the barrel significantly shortened so the whole weapon resembles a [[Rocky Mountain Arms Patriot Pistol]], is seen briefly at the end of the game. It can be unlocked by earning the Big Boss emblem after the end of the game or by a password. Its most notable trait is that it has unlimited ammo and never needs to be reloaded (the ingame reason is how its Beta-C magazine, misnamed in the previous game as the "feed mechanism," vaguely resembles the sideways-8 infinity symbol); it also plays part of the "Snake Eater" theme from ''Metal Gear Solid 3'' when aimed. It is classified as an SMG, despite firing an assault rifle round, which would in reality make it an ultracompact carbine. The Patriot cannot be customised ingame.

[[Image:Wm 1119951786543207.jpg|thumb|none|400px| The Rocky Mountain Arms M16-Style Pistol - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Patriot.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Patriot" on the item menu.]]
[[File:MGS4Patriot-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Patriot" being fired on the roof of Advent Palace.]]
[[File:MGS4Patriot-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Boss drops his "Patriot" in front of Snake.]]

=Sniper Rifles / Designated Marksman Rifles=

==Barrett M82A2==

The [[Barrett_M82#Barrett_M82A2|M82A2]] can be purchased from Drebin, is Hideo Kojima's personal favourite, and is used the US military forces in Act 3 and later by Johnny "Akiba" Sasaki during Act 5, a curious weapon choice when it is clear that a weapon capable of extended automatic fire would be much better suited to the particular environment he's literally being thrown into. It is also exclusively available to the Akiba special character in multiplayer.

[[Image:Barrettm82a2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Barrett M82A2 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Barrett M82A2 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US soldier aims a Barrett M82A2 at Liquid's boat from the side door of a helicopter during Act 3.]]
[[File:MGS4M82A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another US soldier aims his Barrett M82A2 off the pier.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He is one of many, many, many soldiers and Marines aiming at said boat. Strangely, most of them aim straight forward even though the boat is ''below'' the bridge they're standing on.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Barrett-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At the start of the final Act, Johnny Sasaki holds his M82A2 as he prepares to launch onto Outer Haven using the giant man-catapult which Drebin owns for some inexplicable reason.]]
[[File:MGS4M82A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny aims his Barrett M82A2 at FROG soldiers onboard Outer Haven.]]
[[File:MGS4M82A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnny fires his M82A2 at the FROGs.]]

==DSR-1==

The [[DSR-1]], a bolt-action sniper rifle in a bullpup layout, is used by FROG snipers and can be bought from Drebin; doing so is rather pointless, however, since Old Snake is automatically given an unlocked DSR-1 at the end of Act 2, after he uses it in a cutscene to free Raiden from Vamp's clutches. The weapon is loud and features a fairly slow bolt-action; this along with a lack of customisation options places it distinctly behind the Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR and VSS in terms of versatility. The ingame calibre is specified to be 7.62x67mm, making it .300 Winchester Magnum. It is used by a few PMC and FROG snipers, the latter resulting in one of the game's more memorably unrealistic scenes in Act 3. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:Dsr1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|DSR-Precision GmbH DSR-1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR.jpg|thumb|none|601px|DSR-1 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the bolt of his DSR-1.]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the motorcycle escape sequence in the third Act, the game uses a "cinematic" camera any time Snake isn't aiming; at one point, a FROG sniper is seen firing her DSR-1 from a distant building. Note the FROGs place the scope against the side of their head rather than lining it up with their eyes; in addition, in this scene the DSR-1 ejects a spent casing immediately, without the bolt being operated.]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Big Mama reels from the FROG sniper's bullet. As noted above, if the player was using their weapon they will have no idea why this actually happened. Which is probably for the best...]]
[[Image:MGS4-DSR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...Since apparently Big Mama isn't up on the whole thing where being shot with a .300 Win Mag is supposed to actually harm you in some way.]]

==Heckler & Koch PSG-1==

While not usable in the game, the "press X" flashback after defeating Crying Wolf shows Sniper Wolf's death scene in the original game, with the defeated sniper holding her signature [[Heckler_%26_Koch_G3#Heckler_.26_Koch_PSG-1|Heckler & Koch PSG-1]].

[[Image:H&KPSG01.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-PSG1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sadly, the static and blur filters thrown over these flashback images mean this is the only frame of Wolf's PSG-1 where the barrel isn't distorted.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM8 Sharpshooter==

A [[Heckler_%26_Koch_XM8#Heckler_.26_Koch_XM8_Sharpshooter_Rifle|Heckler & Koch XM8 Sharpshooter Rifle]] is used by the character "Ed," a member of Meryl Silverburgh's "Rat Patrol" FOXHound unit. It is never available to the player.

[[Image:XM8sharp.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch XM8 Sharpshooter Rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8Sharp.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ed checks over his XM8 Sharpshooter. Note Ed's weapon is fitted with the same Insight ISM-V scope as the other members of his unit, rather than the x4 magnifying scope the Sharpshooter variant is supposed to use.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8Sharp-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Meryl, Ed and Johnathan demonstrate the capabilities of the "System" by taking down three FROG soldiers in perfect unison, using their shared senses.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM8Sharp-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hearing a mysterious sound coming from all around, Ed and Johnathan apprehensively aim their weapons at particularly scary-looking parts of a derelict building.]]

== Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle ==

The [[M14_Rifle#Mk_14_Mod_0_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle|Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle ]] (Referred to incorrectly as the "M14EBR") is a modern variant of the [[M14 Rifle]]. It is used by PMC marksmen in-game and can be purchased from Drebin. It has semiautomatic and fully automatic rates of fire and can be equipped with a suppressor, laser sight, and flashlight. Its fully automatic fire mode makes it very useful even in short range combat, and the fact that it's available early on, combined with its extensive list of modifications, makes it one of the best guns in the game. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR with a Harris bipod and vertical RIS foregrip - 7.62x51 NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"M14 EBR" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the first Act, rebel soldiers are shown trying to storm an urban area guarded by a PMC fireteam, including sniper / spotter teams; the snipers are armed with Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifles.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A second sniper team, with the marksman also armed with a Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M14-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR.]]

==Mosin Nagant Sniper==

A modified [[Mosin Nagant]] sniper rifle with a paratrooper stock and pistol grip can be purchased from Drebin in-game. It is the same rifle used by The End in MGS3 and is modified to only fire tranquilizer darts, though in this game this also includes fictional "Emotion" darts which cause targets to experience one of the game's four psychological states (Cry, Rage, Laugh or Scream). This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:MosinNagantM9130Sniper.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Mosin Nagant M91/30 Sniper Rifle - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mosin.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Custom Mosin-Nagant on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mosin-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake shows off The End's Mosin Nagant, which Drebin acquired somehow.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mosin-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake operates the bolt of his Mosin Nagant, correctly shown as the turned-down bolt handle of a sniper version.]]

==SVD Dragunov-S==

The SVD Dragunov-S, a modernised, shortened version of the [[SVD Dragunov]] intended for paratroop use is seen in the hands of militiamen and rebel snipers in Acts 1 and 2. The weapon cannot be customised or mount any kind of suppressor, but the ammunition is relatively cheap and the weapon a semi-automatic rather than bolt-action, making it a middle-of-the-road weapon. The scope features an error: the number in the stadiametric rangefinder indicating the height of the reference target is "10" rather than the correct "1.7;" either that or in Snake's world shooting at 32-foot tall monsters is more important than shooting at infantry. This weapon is available in multiplayer.

[[Image:SVD-S-Rifle.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Dragunov-S shortened sniper rifle intended for paratroopers - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SVD on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nobody had expected Snake to disguise himself as Venom.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As ever, Snake can't stand the idea of having a round lazing around in the chamber of one of his long guns after going to all the effort of reloading it, so gives the charging handle a yank to send it on its way.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As with the other sniper weapons, the SVD's scope has two zoom levels, the reticle slightly altering to take account of this. This is low-power...]]
[[Image:MGS4-SVD-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...And this is high. Note the windage / lead marks have changed.]]

==VSS Vintorez==

The [[VSS Vintorez]] appears in the game, and can only be found in a room in Act 2; it cannot be bought from Drebin at any point in the game. It has an integral (non-degradable) suppressor, and like the M14EBR is capable of fully-automatic fire, though its shallower 10-round magazine can become a liability in close-range firefights. Since it uses the same reticle model, it duplicates the Dragunov's error of showing the reference height for the target as 10 metres instead of 1.7 metres. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is capable of firing tranquilizer rounds in multiplayer only.

[[Image:Vss1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|VSS Vintorez with PSO-1 scope - 9x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS.jpg|thumb|none|601px|VSS on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Out and about in Millennium Park, Snake aims his VSS Vintorez.]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake uses the scope of his VSS to help out his friend. "Well, that's a load off my mind. Thanks, Snake!"]]
[[Image:MGS4-VSS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the VSS.]]

=Machine Guns=

As was the case in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'' with the [[Stoner 63]], player characters firing machine guns continuously will yell in classic ''"[[Rambo]]"'' tradition. Weapons in this category all have a strange ammunition display quirk; the ammunition bar only shows fifty rounds, with every tenth round marked white. This will scroll as the gun is fired and only count down when 49 or fewer rounds are left on the belt.

==Heckler & Koch HK21E==

The [[Heckler_%26_Koch_HK_series_machine_guns#Heckler_.26_Koch_HK21|Heckler & Koch HK21E]] is seen in the hands of a rebel militiaman in the early portion of the Middle East section of the game (Act 1). In a conversation that can be overheard if the player remains hidden or has earned the trust of the rebels, he claims that it is an enemy gun, yet strangely none of the PMC troopers in the level are seen using it. The rebel militiaman also refers to it as "the very latest model", when in actuality the weapon was designed in the 1980s, some 30 years before the events of the game take place. It can be stolen in this location, or can be purchased via Drebin like most other firearms.

[[Image:HK21E.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK21E - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:MGS4-HK21E.jpg|thumb|none|601px|HK21E on the item menu. Note that it has the 5-vent handguard of a regular HK21 and a shortened barrel like that of an HK11 or HK23.]]
[[Image:MGS4-HK21E-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel soldier brags about his "laundered" HK21E, ignoring several rules of firearm safety by waving it at his friend, even if his finger isn't on the trigger.]]
[[Image:MGS4-HK21E-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads an HK21E as a FROG trooper self-incinerates nearby. It's never particularly clear why they do this, so it's probably nanomachines. Note that the belt of the old drum vanishes just as Snake detaches it; this is the new drum being put in place.]]

==Kalashnikov PKM==

The [[PK Machine Gun]] is seen in the hands of militia and rebels in Act 2. at the time this is obtained, this gun is a good 40-50% more powerful at close range than any other automatic weapon. However, ammo is uncommon and expensive and it can't be customised.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKM with classic (most seen) version of the flash hider - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM.jpg|thumb|none|601px|PKM on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake opens up on Pieuvre Armement PMC soldiers with his PKM, angered at the PMC's name being so hard to spell.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|His fury abated, it's time to reload.]]
[[Image:MGS4-PKM-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The rebel soldier thankfully realizes that Snake pointing a SCAR-H at his groin is just the old man's way of saying good morning.]]

==M60E4==

The [[M60 machine gun|M60E4]] is used by the PMC operatives in game. It can be equipped with optics, foregrips, laser sight, and flashlight. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is the only weapon of its type in that mode.

[[Image:M60E4-mk43.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60E4 Mk.43 with Picatinny rails, RIS foregrip, and ammo belt - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M60E4 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sights up a Pieuvre Armement PMC soldier armed with an M60E4.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake revisits Shadow Moses, bringing a touch more firepower this time.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Having foolishly alerted the million billion Dwarf Gekko which have apparently colonized the Tank Hangar, Snake does the only reasonable thing, whipping out his M60E4 and getting started making a big pile of scrap metal.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M60-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Werewolf PMC appears to be trying to deploy more Dwarf Gekko drones than a potential enemy has bullets.]]

==Mk. 46 Mod. 0==

The [[FN_Minimi#Mk_46_Mod_0|Mk. 46 Mod. 0]] can be purchased from Drebin; it is mislabelled as a Mod 1, but has the 12 o'clock rail on the handguard that is not present on the Mod 1. It features the same customisation as the M60, but it's much lighter and fires the less powerful 5.56x45mm cartridge.

[[Image:Mk46.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk. 46 Mod. 0 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk46.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Mk. 46 Mod.1" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk46-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake starts to reload the Mk. 46 by pulling back the charging handle, giving a good view of the 12 o'clock rail on the handguard; this shows the weapon is actually a Mod 0. Despite its inclusion, there is no accessory that can be mounted on this rail.]]
[[File:MGS4Mk46Mod0-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake unloads his Mk. 46 on PMCs while atop Drebin's Stryker.]]
[[File:MGS4Mk46Mod0-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his Mk. 46 in the hallway at Shadow Moses where the Cyborg Ninja's infamous massacre took place.]]

=Launchers=

==FGM-148 Javelin==

The [[FGM-148 Javelin]] is found in Act 1 and can be purchased from Drebin. It is erroneously shown as a SACLOS device requiring full-course guidance by the operator, with Snake discarding the entire launcher including the CLU after every shot and pulling out a fresh Javelin from more or less nowhere; it also cannot be used in top-attack mode by the player. Most of the time it is used by NPCs it is seen being used in an incorrect direct-fire mode; in real life, even shots fired in this mode start their flight with a rapid climb, while in game the missile flies straight forwards. The only time it is shown firing correctly is during Act 1, when a group of hidden PMC soldiers will fire missiles in top-attack mode to destroy a rebel BMP-3 IFV if the player protects it for long enough.

It is never at all clear ''why'' it operates the way it does; presumably, the lack of lock-on capability is to separate the weapon functionally from the Stinger, and the SACLOS guidance intended to be reminiscent of ''MGS1'' and ''MGS2's'' fly-by-wire "Nikita" missile launcher, but this doesn't really explain why the resulting mechanics were given to a Javelin launcher rather than a fictional ATGM system.

[[Image:Javalin.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FGM-148 Javelin - 127mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FGM-148 Javelin on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake moves into position with a Javelin during the second Act, preparing to provide the rebels with a touch more firepower.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sighting up a PMC Stryker through the scope of the Javelin. In theory, it's possible to top-attack by guiding the round up and then down, but this offers no meaningful advantage over direct fire.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With the Stryker destroyed, Snake reloads by throwing the entire launcher away and pulling another one out of thin air. Apparently it doesn't occur to him to re-use the $80,000 Command Launch Unit. Note that Snake can carry up to ''fifty'' complete launchers; this means his invisible backpack has a carrying capacity exceeding one ton.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sights up a PMC Javelin operator during the first Act. With due diligence, it's possible to escort the mildly suicidal BMP-3 past every launcher...]]
[[Image:MGS4-Javelin-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...Whereupon a hidden Praying Mantis soldier suddenly remembers how the Javelin actually works.]]

==FIM-92 Stinger==

The [[FIM-92A Stinger]] can be purchased from Drebin, and is also found in the back of the truck in the Nuclear Warhead Storage Building, Floor 1, in Act 4. Unlike previous games where it was reloaded in a completely unspecified manner, in ''MGS4'' Snake will discard the launcher after firing and pull another one from thin air. As per series norms, the Stinger is incorrectly shown as a strange all-purpose missile, able to lock on to aircraft, ground vehicles, and even infantry.

[[Image:-0976t.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIM-92A Stinger - 70mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|FIM-92A Stinger on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With a determined look on his face, Snake clutches a Stinger as he advances on the Confinement Facility. As with the Javelin, being old apparently doesn't stop him lugging two thousand pounds of Stingers around.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake readies a Stinger as his previous one fails to take down a PMC helicopter. Reloading before impact broke the previous round's lock-on, leaving it to fly off aimlessly.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Stinger-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The helicopter is not nearly as lucky the second time around.]]

==GP-30==

The [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-30 grenade launcher]] can be attached to the AK-102 and AN-94. It can be found in the Advent Palace Hotel in Act 1, in a secret room at the start of Act 2, or bought from Drebin. It can be used in multiplayer on the AK-102 if Drebin Points are enabled. The GP-30 correctly does not share ammunition with the other 40mm grenade launchers (as it uses caseless VOG-25 grenades, which are incompatible with 40mm NATO grenade launchers); in game, it can only use high explosive rounds.

[[Image:Gp-30 ak-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GP-30 grenade launcher mounted on AK-74 - 40mm & 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-AK102.jpg|thumb|none|601px|AK-102 on the item menu, fitted with a GP-30 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GP30-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads the GP-30 mounted under his AN-94 assault rifle.]]
[[Image:MGS4-GP30.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake finds a GP-30 in the Advent Palace Hotel. As noted previously, this "Custom Parts" box item is used to represent any accessory weapon or weapon accessory.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM25 Mock-Up==

An early mock-up of the [[Heckler & Koch XM25]] made for demonstration purposes is shown in game as the actual weapon. A semi-automatic grenade launcher chambered in 25mm, it fires airbursting HEAB (High Explosive Air Bursting) rounds, which function rather like the PK rockets in ''Battlefield 2142''; while the weapon is held normally they are simply impact detonated, but scoping shows a display with an always-on rangefinder. Pressing up or down on the D-pad freezes at the currently displayed range, with further presses adjusting the detonation distance up or down. It can be found on the catwalk of one of the control towers in Act 4, and is the only heavy weapon usable during the motorcycle chase in Act 3.

[[Image:Xm25 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM25 mock-up - 25 x 40mm. This is a non-firing demonstrator which looks substantially different to the final version.]]
[[Image:ATKXM25.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Final XM25 for comparison - 25 x 40mm. The version in ''MGS4'' was clearly based on the former.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25.jpg|thumb|none|601px|XM25 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires his XM25 in over-shoulder mode; fired like this, the grenades are impact detonation only.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Using the scope, on the other hand, allows the HEAB rounds to be used properly. The two range figures to the right are the range to the object currently being aimed at (white) and the current detonation distance (red). It fires in impact mode until the D-pad is touched to fix and then alter the range. The launcher "forgets" the set range if Snake stops aiming down the sight.]]
[[Image:MGS4-XM25-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake reloads his XM25 as he tries to ignore what Johnny Sasaki is currently doing nearby.]]

==Heckler & Koch XM320==

A mixture of the early version and later version of the [[Heckler & Koch M320|Heckler & Koch XM320]] grenade launcher is the underbarrel launcher for the M4 Custom and XM8 rifle; it lacks the MP7-style folding front grip added to the production M320 and has the early style trigger guard, therefore is correctly labelled in the game, even if it makes little sense in-universe for it to still have an XM- designation. It can be purchased from Drebin, and is also carried by some PMC members in stand-alone form in the South America portion of the game; it cannot be used by the player in this form. The XM320 has four ammo types; it can fire HE rounds, white phosphorous, stun grenades and smoke rounds. The attachment is also available in multiplayer.

[[Image:XM320.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch XM320 - 40x46mm. Note lack of a front grip, added only to the production M320. The version in-game uses an earlier version of the trigger guard.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SpaceshipM320.jpg|thumb|none|601px|XM320 grenade launcher mounted to an XM8 rifle on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M320-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Assaulted by Pieuvre Armement PMC soldiers, Snake loads a white phosphorous round into the XM320 mounted to his XM8.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M320-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He stops being assaulted immediately afterward.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M320-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Later, he encounters two more PMC soldiers defending the Confinement Facility with their standalone XM320s. Thankfully, PMC soldiers can only use high explosive rounds in their launchers.]]

==M72A3 LAW==

The [[M72 LAW]] is used by a small number of rebels in Act 2.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW - 66mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M72A3 LAW on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake comes across a rebel soldier with his M72 at the ready during the game's second Act.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Taking aim down the sights of an M72A3 LAW. Or rather, the sight; the weapon is incorrectly shown with the player's point of view in front of Snake's right hand, using only the front sight with the rear one not visible. To actually do this, Snake would have to be reaching back over his own shoulder with his right hand.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake discards a spent LAW and extends another; the ground model is actually a closed tube, meaning the tube instantly collapses as it leaves Snake's hands.]]
[[Image:MGS4-LAW-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As Drebin moves to give Snake a shot of suppressor Nanomachines to let him use non-ID guns, two low-detail LAWs are visible in the weapon rack of his Stryker. These are low-detail because they are part of the Stryker model itself rather than copies of the normal in-world model.]]

==MGL-140==

The [[Milkor MGL]] appears as the "MGL-140," it is used by Raging Raven and is acquired by Solid Snake upon defeating her. It shares the ammunition reserve of the XM320, and can use the same four ammunition types: HE fragmentation, white phosphorous, "flashbang" stun rounds and smoke rounds.

[[Image:MGL32.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M32 MGL in desert tan finish fitted with Armson OEG reflex sight - 40mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL.jpg|thumb|none|601px|MGL-140 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raging Raven flies overhead during the introduction of the B&B Corps in the first Act, showing off her MGL-140 grenade launcher.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Later, in the third Act, the MGL gets a closeup as Raven fires a grenade at the van Snake and Big Mama are escorting.]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Finally getting her boss fight in Act 3, Raven has her pre-battle speech...]]
[[Image:MGS4-MGL-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...During which, for reasons known only to himself, Snake doesn't shoot her. Perhaps he's marvelling at how this isn't even the weirdest thing that's happened to him ''today''.]]
[[File:MGS4MilkorMGL-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake collects Raven's MGL-140 after defeating her.]]

==RPG-7==

The [[RPG-7]] is used by the rebels in the first Act, and a large number of unlocked RPG-7s are present throughout the first stage, seemingly primarily to give the player some quick Drebin Points due to their high trade-in value. This weapon is available in multiplayer, and is the only one of its type in that mode.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG.jpg|thumb|601px|none|RPG-7 on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel aims his RPG-7 during ''MGS4's'' first Act.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake fires on a Stryker using the PGO-7 scope of his RPG-7; the illuminated red dot at the aim point is obscured here by the flare of the rocket's sustainer motor.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake starts to reload his RPG-7, showing off the PGO-7 scope.]]
[[Image:MGS4-RPG-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake finds a box of RPG-7 ammunition lurking around in the rebel base in Act 1. This is the generic pickup item used for all rocket launcher ammunition.]]

=Thrown / Placed=

==Airsoft gas charger grenade==

A grenade with a thin, smooth cylindrical body is used as the model for both the "flashbang" stun grenades and the game's fictional electronic warfare "chaff" grenades. This appears to be based on a grenade-shaped gas bottle for Airsoft guns, such as the one shown below. Stun grenades can be found throughout the game or bought from Drebin, and stun all enemies within a fixed radius who can see them while also causing an instant alert if there wasn't one already. The Chaff Grenade is treated as a "secret" weapon; only a handful can be found during the entire game, usually in out-of-the-way places, and Drebin never sells them; they are basically a short-duration EMP-like effect rather flimsily explained as strips of metal which are spread throughout the entire current area via magic. Using one temporarily disables security cameras, alarms and enemy radios, and temporarily paralyses any drone vehicles present. This lasts until the magic fades and all the strips of metal return to wherever they came from in the first place.

[[Image:DAM116A101.jpg|thumb|none|300px|EAIMING "M116A1 Distraction Device Grenade," an Airsoft gun gas charger built to resemble a hand grenade. "M116A1" is actually the US army's code for a simulation hand grenade with a paper body, used in training.]]
[[Image:MGS4-StunG.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Stun grenade" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-ChaffG.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Chaff grenade" on the item menu. M363 is actually an obsolete anti-infantry canister round developed for the 76mm guns of the M4 Sherman and M41 Walker Bulldog tanks.]]
[[Image:MGS4-StunG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After FROG soldiers knock a hole into the Advent Palace Hotel's bathroom, they toss a stun grenade inside, visible next to Meryl's head. The explosion, if looked at, turns the screen completely white; this can be simulated by looking to the right of this image.]]

==M112 C4 Demolition Charge==

Remote-detonated C4 charges are available during the game, and can be placed on the ground or objects and then detonated in the order they were originally placed. Precisely what attaches them to surfaces is not clear; the charges can be fixed to non-magnetic surfaces, and lack any obvious adhesive.

[[Image:M112.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M112 demolition charge]]
[[Image:MGS4-C4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"C4" on the item menu.]]

==M18 Smoke Grenade==

The [[M18 smoke grenade]] is usable in the game, in a default white version and four special "Emotion" versions which produce coloured smoke which affects the emotions of enemies caught in it; Blue for Cry, Red for Rage, Yellow for Laugh, and Green for Scream. The M18 is also the basis for the "fat" versions of the Stun and Chaff grenade seen in the ''MGS1'' nightmare sequence.

[[Image:M18red.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M18 smoke grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M18 smoke grenade on the item menu. This grenade produces white smoke.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18-Emot.jpg|thumb|none|601px|One of the four coloured "emotion" smoke grenades available after completing the game once. This is the yellow "Laugh" grenade.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Faced with the rebel BMP-3 in the first Act, the Praying Mantis PMC soldiers decide that discretion is the better part of valour, one throwing an M18 smoke grenade to cover their retreat.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M18-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the Act 4 ''MGS1'' nightmare, Snake is surprised at finding a security camera in a top-secret base as he brandishes a "Chaff Grenade" based on an M18. Due to PS1-era graphical limitations, the grenade is bigger than his head.]]

==M18A1 Claymore==

The [[M18A1 Claymore]] mine is used as a trap in several locations throughout the game; as usual in the series, the mines use a proximity detonator rather than the real weapon's tripwire, although they lack the optical camouflage seen in the first two games which made them invisible.

[[Image:M18a1 07.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel mine]]
[[Image:MGS4-Claymore.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M18A1 Claymore on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Claymore-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake spots a Claymore in the lobby of the Advent Palace Hotel, deciding that practical jokes by the staff must have really got out of hand.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Claymore-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luckily ''MGS'' series standards still apply, and Claymores are apparently both extremely hot for no readily determined reason and can be stolen by crawling over them.]]

==M34 White Phosphorous Grenade==

The [[M34 White Phosphorous grenade]] is available to the player only, and creates a burning cloud of white phosphorous which ignites enemies on contact.

[[Image:M34 2-1-.jpg|thumb|none|200px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-WP.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M34 White Phosphorous grenade on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-WP-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake looks down the iron sight of his MP5SD2 at a case of WP grenades; this is the generic pickup model used by every type of grenade in the game.]]

==M67 Hand Grenade==

The [[M67 hand grenade]] is used by most enemies in the game and can be used by the player; it is also part of the armament of the "Gekko" bipedal IFVs, which can throw grenades using their manipulator tentacles.

[[Image:Baseball.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M67 hand grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-M67.jpg|thumb|none|601px|M67 hand grenade on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M67-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Drebin shows off a magic trick he presumably uses at ''really'' dull parties.]]
[[File:MGS4Grenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A better shot of the M67.]]

==Magazine==

A 30-round STANAG 5.56x45mm magazine can be thrown to distract enemies. One magazine is added to the stock every time a weapon's magazine is fully depleted; regardless of the weapon, it will always be shown as this type when thrown. Unlike ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', the reloading animation correctly shows Snake retaining the old mag during the reload rather than discarding it and then having it in his inventory anyway.

[[Image:MGS4-Magazine.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Magazine on the item menu.]]

==Mk 2 Hand Grenade==

During the PMC commercials before the game proper begins, two live-action combatants are seen duelling in mid-air as the camera sweeps around them. As they move close, the one in white reaches down to produce a [[Mk 2 hand grenade]], with another attached to her belt. Mk 2 grenades are also used by Genome Soldiers in the ''MGS1'' nightmare sequence if Snake enters a vent during an alert.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Mk 2 hand grenade|Mk 2 "Pineapple" high-explosive fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:MGS4-Luger-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the PMC commercial, one of the fighting-or-something women produces a Mk 2 grenade from her belt.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mk2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grey object visible above the Genome Soldier's left hand is the fuze of a Mk 2 grenade. Since the ''MGS1'' soldiers always have a rifle in their right hand, they are shown pulling the pins with their mouth; apparently Big Boss' superior soldier genes include some for superior soldier teeth.]]

==Molotov cocktail==

Molotov cocktails, referred to as "Petro Bomb" in game, are used in place of grenades by rebel soldiers in the first two Acts, and can be picked up by Snake, functioning as less effective versions of the WP grenade which ignite on impact.

[[Image:MGS4-Molotov.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Petro Bomb" on the item menu.]]

==Valmera 69==

An Italian Valmera 69 bounding anti-personnel mine is featured as the "S.G. Mine," with SG presumably standing for "Sleep Gas." These contact-triggered mines instantly knock out anyone who triggers them, including Snake himself, though they can be triggered with gunfire or defused by crawling over them or picking them up with Metal Gear Mk. 2. Some are found in the Advent Palace hotel in the first Act.

[[Image:130705-004-42B40A6D.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Italian Valmera 69 land mine (centre).]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"S.G. Mine" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apparently showing up as hot on thermal isn't enough for these mines, which are also concealed through clever application of a bright blue body and a big silly light on the top.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the unlikely case that Snake manages to trigger one, the entire mine jumps into the air; this is incorrect, as the Valmera, like most bounding mines, has an outer body containing the bounding body and propelling charge; only the bounding body should jump into the air.]]
[[Image:MGS4-SmokeMine-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake does not have time to consider this, due to the loss of his entire Psyche gauge and the resultant urgent need for a nap.]]

==Unknown land mine==

An unknown land mine is available as a remote-triggered sleeping gas bomb called the "S.G. Satchel."

[[Image:MGS4-Satchel.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"S.G. Satchel" on the item menu.]]

=Mounted Weaponry=

==BGM-71 TOW==

The bipedal "Gekko" unmanned weapons are sometimes equipped with a launch unit for two [[BGM-71 TOW]] missiles on one of their weapon mounting points. These weapons are never usable by the player.

[[Image:Tow 07.jpg|thumb|none|400px|BGM-71 TOW mounted on M220 tripod - 152mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-TOW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake is ambushed by a "Gekko" unmanned vehicle crashing through a wall, equipped with an M2 Browning heavy machine gun and twin TOW launch tubes.]]
[[Image:MGS-TOW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After Snake successfully evades the easily-fooled Gekko, they are called away.]]

==Browning M2HB==

The [[M2HB]] is mounted on Stryker APC and MGS variants and HMMWVs in game, and is also the principle dorsal armament of the Gekko bipedal IFVs. They can also occasionally be found mounted in fixed emplacements.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Praying Mantis PMC's "Gekko" unmanned vehicles, armed with a Protector M151 Remote Weapon Station and twin BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missiles. The Gekko also mounts a lighter machine gun in the "beak," but this is completely concealed by armour and impossible to identify.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Strykers in ''MGS4'' also mount the Protector M151 Remote Weapon Station, equipped with an M2 Browning heavy machine gun.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Pieuvre Armement PMC Stryker is seen at the start of the second Act.]]
[[File:MGS4M2HB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake mans a Browning M2HB on top of Drebins Stryker at the end of Act 2.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the third Act, the Raven Sword PMC makes extensive use of HMMWV ("Humvee") light trucks armed with Browning M2 heavy machine guns. While the Young Snake disguise won't get Snake by these, apparently Colonel Campbell is allowed out and about after curfew.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The combined US Army / Marine taskforce sent to deal with Liquid Ocelot on the Volta in Act 3 turn up in force, including a number of Mark V Special Operations Craft, each armed with four M2 heavy machine guns mounted on the sides of the rear deck.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Liquid Ocelot's boat in Act 3 is a Swedish-designed Combat Boat 90 modified to mount a turret with what appear to be a pair of tank cannons. More normal for the class are the twin M2 Browning heavy machine guns mounted in a compartment forward of the helmsman's position, and visible here behind the FROG soldier on the left.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun cameras on Shadow Moses in Act 4 are based on the M2, with a shortened barrel and a rather undersized drum.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sneaks up on a mounted M2 Browning during the game's second Act. Knowing Snake's stealthy ways, it will later find it has much less ammo and is pointed in a different direction, and will never figure out why.]]
[[File:MGS4M2HB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M2 Browning mounted on Drebin's Stryker.]]

==General Electric M134 Minigun==

During the second Act, soldiers of the Pieuvre Armement PMC are seen wearing suits of powered armour equipped with [[GE M134]] miniguns on their right arms.

[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two power suits are visible at the top of the shot, both with arm-mounted miniguns.]]

==General Electric M61A1 Vulcan==

Secondary armament of Metal Gears Rex and Ray is a pair of [[M61 Vulcan]] 20mm rotary guns; Ray mounts them on the tips of the two wing-like underwater propulsion units on its shoulders, while Rex mounts them under the projections either side of the pilot's "beak." While the latter is claimed to be 30mm by the game, Metal Gear Rex has not changed size since Otacon called them "Vulcan cannons" in ''MGS1'' and the weapons are not large enough to be GAU-8s. The battleship USS ''Missouri'' also mounts M61 vulcans in her Phalanx CIWS installations.

[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg|thumb|none|400px|General Electric / General Dynamics M61 Vulcan - 20mm.]]
[[Image:Phalanx.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GE M61 Vulcan in a Phalanx mounting - 20mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The damaged cover of Metal Gear Rex's left-hand gun shows it to be a six-barrelled M61 Vulcan, despite the game labelling it as a much larger seven-barrelled 30mm GAU-8.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As in ''MGS2'', Metal Gear Ray's Vulcans are mounted at the tips of the two propulsor "wings," forcing the vehicle to position itself incredibly awkwardly to fire. Here, Ray opens fire on Metal Gear Rex in the finale of the fourth Act.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the final Act, Snake's base of operations becomes the USS ''Missouri'', which is recreated in loving detail and the subject of many dramatic shots. Here, a shot of the ''Missouri's'' flank as she approaches the submarine arsenal ship ''Outer Haven'' shows off her Mark 12 5-inch/38 calibre dual-purpose guns, angled RGM-84 Harpoon launch tubes and two of the M61A1 Vulcan cannons in Phalanx installations on her superstructure.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M61.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As Outer Haven launches a volley of Harpoon anti-ship missiles at the USS ''Missouri'', "Mighty Mo" responds with her dual-purpose guns and Phalanx installations.]]

== Kalashnikov PKT ==

During the first Act, the rebels assault Praying Mantis PMC positions with a Russian BMP-3 IFV. The BMP-3 is the world's most heavily armed IFV, packing in a 2A70 100mm low velocity gun / missile launcher, a coaxial 2A72 30mm autocannon, six 81mm 902V "Tucha" smoke grenade launchers and three [[PK Machine Gun|PKT machine guns]], one coaxial and two bow-mounted.

[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun with 250-round ammo drum - 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:MGS4-BMP3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The rebel BMP makes a grand entrance, firing off its bow-mounted PKT machine guns.]]
[[Image:MGS4-BMP3-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|If Snake has been nice to the rebels, this is a happy sight; if not, it may be time to be ''really'' stealthy.]]

==M224 Mortar==

During the first two Acts, a number of [[M224 Mortar]]s set up by rebel forces can be found and used by the player; these are aimed with a HUD indicator showing the round's trajectory, ending in an area-of-effect circle at the point of detonation. They have infinite ammunition.

[[Image:M224-60mm-mortar.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M224 Mortar - 60mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mortar.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake discovers the hard way that the mortar wasn't designed to be used as a pillow.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mortar-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vowing to never speak of his bad sleeping experience again, Snake decides to dispose of any witnesses, dropping a 60mm round into his M224 mortar after sighting up a hapless PMC soldier manning an M2 Browning.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Mortar-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake admires his handiwork and shows off his amazingly flexible definition of "sneaking mission."]]

==M230 Chaingun==

PMC hybrid helicopters based on the Boeing X-50 Dragonfly aircraft / helicopter concept are armed with a chin-mounted [[M230 Chain Gun]].

[[Image:Hughes-M230-Chain-Gun3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hughes/Alliant Techsystems M230 Chain Gun - 30mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M230-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PMC attack helicopter comes in to support Praying Mantis troops during the first level, showing off its chin-mounted M230. While these helicopters appear many times during the game, they never receive a name.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M230.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake sights up a PMC attack helicopter with his VSS Vintorez as it fires its chaingun at rebels nearby. This is unlikely to end well for him.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M230-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the PMC hybrid helicopters in "jet" mode. They are never encountered like this during gameplay, only during the early cutscenes of Act 1. It's worth noting that the real X-50 Dragonfly program was axed due to "inherent design flaws," with neither prototype ever successfully transitioning from rotary-wing to fixed-wing flight.]]

==M240C==

The [[FN_MAG#M240_Machine_Gun|M240C]] is seen mounted coaxially on the remaining Abrams tank in Shadow Moses Island's tank hangar.

[[Image:M240C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M240C vehicle coaxial-mount version - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-M240C.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake admires the remaining Abrams in the tank hangar, standing under the M256 120mm L/44 main gun. Note the CIS mounted on top of the turret right of the commander's Browning M2; apparently the magical elves which have been maintaining Metal Gear Rex since the island was abandoned took time out to update ''MGS1's'' M1A1 to A2 standard.]]
[[Image:MGS4-M240C-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view from the upper walkway of the tank hangar. ''MGS4'' doesn't take sides on whether the Abrams in the first game had two Browning M2s as in ''Metal Gear Solid'' or an M2 and an M240D as in ''Twin Snakes''; the remaining tank in the hangar has no loader's weapon at all.]]

== Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B ==

Liquid Snake's crashed Hind-D can be found in the snowfield around the Comm Towers in Act 4, with the chin-mounted [[Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B]] gatling gun buried in the snow. Other Hinds can be seen in the PMC advertisements at the very beginning of the game; at least one of those seen, however, is a Hind-A which would have a different, single-barrel chin gun.

[[Image:Yakb.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Yakushev-Borzov Yak-B machine gun - 12.7mm]]
[[Image:MGS4-Hind-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake finds the crashed Hind-D in a corner of the snowfield. "Bad dog! What did Snake tell you about destroying the helicopter?"]]
[[Image:MGS4-Hind-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During one of the introduction's confusing PMC commercials, an Mi-24 Hind-A is briefly visible circling two people in vaguely Middle-Eastern dress; it can be identified as such by the early "greenhouse" side-by-side cockpit rather than the later twin bubble canopy. This means it would mount a single-barrel gun rather than a Yak-B; it is included here for the sake of noting this.]]

=Other=

=="Rail Gun"==

The fictional handheld railgun used by Fortune in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty|MGS2]]'' returns in ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' attached to the quadrupedal armour of B&B Corps member Crying Wolf; the weapon is mounted to the "Beast" armour's shoulder, and can only be used when the cockpit is open. Following the battle, the railgun is made available to the player for free; it features a 3-step charge up activated by aiming the weapon and a digital scope with a charge level indicator. The gun no longer has the issues with runaway firing described in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', where it was stated the project was cancelled for this reason and only Fortune with her "good luck" could use it effectively. Despite the railgun being roughly the size of a motorcycle, it apparently still somehow fits inside the foot-tall Metal Gear Mk. 2.

The railgun itself seems to have been created using either the same wooden motion capture prop as the one used for ''Metal Gear Solid 2's'' MoCap work or a reproduction of it; the design incorporates elements of a number of experimental and prototype high-tech weapons, but the weapon as a whole is a work of fiction.

[[Image:MGS4-Railgun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Railgun" on the item menu.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake continues to make a mockery of the idea that he keeps his inventory in anything resembling a backpack.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading the railgun; note the magazine in Snake's left hand is proportioned like a pistol mag, since it only contains projectiles with no propellant.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake uses the scope of the railgun to sight up a Gekko hanging from the ceiling in Shadow Moses' casting and rolling facility. The horizontal bars fill in as it charges, while the lower vertical bar is an ammunition counter.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|With the Railgun slung over the right shoulder, Crying Wolf's quadrupedal "beast" armour manages the entirely impossible feat of stopping and then lifting a Caterpillar D9 bulldozer with an Israeli-standard up-armour package. This vehicle weighs as much as a main battle tank, and no matter how strong the "beast" is its legs would dig into the ground before it could ever hope to pull this off.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Three Acts later, Crying Wolf takes aim at Snake in the snowfield on Shadow Moses island; strangely, in this cutscene the railgun has an analog zoom on the scope rather than the two-setting digital zoom it has when Snake uses it. This is also the only time the railgun is seen with the armature extended when it isn't being charged.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Railgun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake hefts the railgun as he prepares to take on a force of Gekko bent on destroying Metal Gear Rex's hangar. Despite that he could barely lift it when he picked it up after defeating Crying Wolf, he uses it just fine the rest of the time.]]

==Tanegashima==

A Japanese clone of a Portugese muzzleloading matchlock arquebus design, this is basically a joke weapon that can only be reloaded while standing, taking a lot of time to do so for only moderate damage and accuracy; costing one million Drebin Points, it's a very expensive joke at that. However, there is a one-third chance that when the Tanegashima is fired outdoors it will instead fire a gigantic whirlwind which knocks enemies down and scatters items everywhere. It is extremely silly.

[[Image:TanegashimaGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Japanese "Tanegashima" matchlock arquebus. Tanegashima was the site of the first contact Japan had with European traders, and these firearms were copies of traded Portugese guns.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Tanegashima" arquebus on the item menu. Note this weapon is rather ridiculously placed in the "assault rifle" class.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Snake aims down the iron sight of his Tanegashima arquebus. Note that only one end of the match is lit; typically on a real matchlock, both ends would be lit in case one was extinguished accidentally.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reloading involves a suitable amount of fiddling around with the weapon's ramrod, followed by a series of hard-to-make-out actions which are presumably refilling the flash pan, resetting the serpentine and replacing the match.]]
[[Image:MGS4-Musket-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sometimes it's even worth it.]]

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