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Talk:The Hurt Locker

2010-03-09T11:15:51Z

178.92.190.149: /* The helmet covers */

==M4A1 pics==
Aren't some of the M4A1 pics a little unnecessary. Like five of the publicity stills barely show guns and the ones with stamps on the lower right look like crap. I vote to have them removed. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Well, if you won't do it, I will.-protoAuthor

==The helmet covers==
I know the military seems awesome and all, but they screw up sometimes too. They don't always issue the right shit, like the Marines in Generation Kill were issued the wrong camo for desert operations. Especially helmet covers. They are really bad on those. So it doesn't designate that hes EOD, it just shows that the Army screws up -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
:Except that the Marines in the 2003 were issued woodland camo because the USMC already were replacing the desert camo and the woodland camo with MARPAT. Hence that Iceman was wearing MARPAT and so were the officers. The Army replaced the Desert Camo and the Woodland camo in 2005 so it's unlikely that in 2007 (the year the movie takes place) there would be still camouflage needed replacing. It's most likely that the Prop Department didn't have enough UCP helmet covers. The Prop Department also screwed up by giving a lot of soldiers PASGT helmets. By 2007 the MICH TC-2000 Combat Helmet had completely replaced the PASGT helmet.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, the USMC was issued MARPAT in 2003, but per the Army, the Woodland and DCU were officially no longer regulation at the end of October 2006. Even from that time, it took months for soldiers to get gear completely replaced. A rule of thumb ever since the American Civil War and one that applies today is that it takes about a YEAR from an official change to filter down to all soldiers in a theatre of operations.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:28, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

*The woodland cover is probably just a stylistic choice on the part of the director to make Sergeant James more distinctive from the other members of the team and to enhance his "outsider" status. As for the PASGT helmets, The Hurt Locker is an indie film that was produced on a limited budget by most action movie standards, so it is far cheaper just to outfit everyone in the background with the existing PASGT helmets rather than to purchase genuine or replica MICH helmets. [[User:Markit|Markit]]
:I agree. Makes more sense.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

:I'm sorry, I can't remember where the movie specifies when it takes place.-protoAuthor

::* Definitely right about the military screwing up, or sometimes new kit taking longer to get in service. I worked with US troops in 2007 that were still using mixed camouflage and ALICE gear. Out of a whole battalion I think like 5 guys had all the new stuff. Hell, sometimes it depends on what base you get issued your kit at. I got my tans in Winnipeg and got the old desert boots, everyone who kitted in Edmonton got the new ones. - Nyles
:Sometimes they don't even issue people the correct sidearms due to limited supplies. For example, My cousin was issued a very old M1911 when he joined the Navy (He now has a privately owned Desert Warrior)and many of the people that he was with ddn't get the M9 either-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:43, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Could be worse, we've used the Inglis Hi Power so long we don't have anything else in stores but 1050 Sig P225s we bought for MPs in the 90s. I wasn't even supposed to get one until they dug up a few more spares - I was literally last on the list to get one, the two guys in my section with names later in the alphabet didn't! Couldn't even get a shoulder holster because all the senior officers got them all.
:Alright, I found out that this movie is set in 2004. Won't UCP be a inaccuracy?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

::This movie isn't set in 2004; it's set in 2007, the same year it was filmed. I'm not sure why people think it's set in 2004. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:::Well, rotten tomatoes seems to agree with me. [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hurt_locker/ RottenTomatoes page] .
"In the summer of 2004". Mark Boal was also in Iraq in 2004.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

::::Rotten Tomatoes could be wrong, too. They aren't exactly the official source. It's possible that whoever wrote the entry just assumed that because Mark Boal was in Iraq in 2004, the movie was set at the same time. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::NPR agrees with me too. [http://http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105964997].--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:39, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:Saw it again today. Yeah, it's set in 2004.-protoAuthor 05:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::The reviews indicate 2004, but iirc there is no explicit reference to that year in the movie, unless there was a scene that I forgot.--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 07:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

How about the beginning caption when the movie opens that says "Baghdad 2004". Maybe if you pay goddamned attention when you watch the movie, you'd know this!
:::Little off question. Why most hi-speeds ignore helmet covers? Pimpin'?

== I removed bootleg images ==
I deleted the bootleg images that were on the page. The user admitted to me that they were bootleg, being truthful and forthcoming is nice, but I have to delete them. Any images taken from a screener or a bootleg are illegal and thus cannot be on IMFDB. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== WHY ==

why has someone deleted someof the pics.for exmple the beretta 92sb, the glock and the m16a4. someone should delete some M4 pics there is wayto many
:Look at the post right above yours.-protoAuthor 00:27, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

: oh sorry. but with the beretta it showed a perfectly clear pic. you could ID the guneasily. the glock pic was a good pic anyway

== Watermarked pic ==

Putting this picture here until I can find one that doesn't have the watermark on it.

[[Image:THL M4A1 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|James and Sanborn open fire with their M4A1's at a pair of insurgents attempting to hold Eldridge prisoner. They manage to kill the pair, but Eldridge is hit in the femur thereafter.]] --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Rank Issue.

I believe Renner's character wore Sergeant First Class (E-7 - Three stripes up with two rockers below) chevrons. This is a rank that is one grade higher than Staff Sergeant. Also, SSGT is not an abriviation used by the US Army as SSG is used instead.
:SSGT is Marine Corps abbreviation. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 23:28, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

SSGT may be a USMC designation but this movie is about US Army Soldiers, not Marines.

== Glock? ==

Is that a Glock 23 or 19? im so bad with glocks :(

Talk:The Hurt Locker

2010-03-09T11:14:05Z

178.92.190.149: /* The helmet covers */

==M4A1 pics==
Aren't some of the M4A1 pics a little unnecessary. Like five of the publicity stills barely show guns and the ones with stamps on the lower right look like crap. I vote to have them removed. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Well, if you won't do it, I will.-protoAuthor

==The helmet covers==
I know the military seems awesome and all, but they screw up sometimes too. They don't always issue the right shit, like the Marines in Generation Kill were issued the wrong camo for desert operations. Especially helmet covers. They are really bad on those. So it doesn't designate that hes EOD, it just shows that the Army screws up -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]
:Except that the Marines in the 2003 were issued woodland camo because the USMC already were replacing the desert camo and the woodland camo with MARPAT. Hence that Iceman was wearing MARPAT and so were the officers. The Army replaced the Desert Camo and the Woodland camo in 2005 so it's unlikely that in 2007 (the year the movie takes place) there would be still camouflage needed replacing. It's most likely that the Prop Department didn't have enough UCP helmet covers. The Prop Department also screwed up by giving a lot of soldiers PASGT helmets. By 2007 the MICH TC-2000 Combat Helmet had completely replaced the PASGT helmet.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, the USMC was issued MARPAT in 2003, but per the Army, the Woodland and DCU were officially no longer regulation at the end of October 2006. Even from that time, it took months for soldiers to get gear completely replaced. A rule of thumb ever since the American Civil War and one that applies today is that it takes about a YEAR from an official change to filter down to all soldiers in a theatre of operations.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:28, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

*The woodland cover is probably just a stylistic choice on the part of the director to make Sergeant James more distinctive from the other members of the team and to enhance his "outsider" status. As for the PASGT helmets, The Hurt Locker is an indie film that was produced on a limited budget by most action movie standards, so it is far cheaper just to outfit everyone in the background with the existing PASGT helmets rather than to purchase genuine or replica MICH helmets. [[User:Markit|Markit]]
:I agree. Makes more sense.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

:I'm sorry, I can't remember where the movie specifies when it takes place.-protoAuthor

::* Definitely right about the military screwing up, or sometimes new kit taking longer to get in service. I worked with US troops in 2007 that were still using mixed camouflage and ALICE gear. Out of a whole battalion I think like 5 guys had all the new stuff. Hell, sometimes it depends on what base you get issued your kit at. I got my tans in Winnipeg and got the old desert boots, everyone who kitted in Edmonton got the new ones. - Nyles
:Sometimes they don't even issue people the correct sidearms due to limited supplies. For example, My cousin was issued a very old M1911 when he joined the Navy (He now has a privately owned Desert Warrior)and many of the people that he was with ddn't get the M9 either-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 20:43, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Could be worse, we've used the Inglis Hi Power so long we don't have anything else in stores but 1050 Sig P225s we bought for MPs in the 90s. I wasn't even supposed to get one until they dug up a few more spares - I was literally last on the list to get one, the two guys in my section with names later in the alphabet didn't! Couldn't even get a shoulder holster because all the senior officers got them all.
:Alright, I found out that this movie is set in 2004. Won't UCP be a inaccuracy?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

::This movie isn't set in 2004; it's set in 2007, the same year it was filmed. I'm not sure why people think it's set in 2004. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:::Well, rotten tomatoes seems to agree with me. [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hurt_locker/ RottenTomatoes page] .
"In the summer of 2004". Mark Boal was also in Iraq in 2004.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

::::Rotten Tomatoes could be wrong, too. They aren't exactly the official source. It's possible that whoever wrote the entry just assumed that because Mark Boal was in Iraq in 2004, the movie was set at the same time. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::NPR agrees with me too. [http://http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105964997].--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:39, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:Saw it again today. Yeah, it's set in 2004.-protoAuthor 05:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::The reviews indicate 2004, but iirc there is no explicit reference to that year in the movie, unless there was a scene that I forgot.--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 07:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

How about the beginning caption when the movie opens that says "Baghdad 2004". Maybe if you pay goddamned attention when you watch the movie, you'd know this!
:::Little off question. Why most hi-speeds ignore helmet covers?

== I removed bootleg images ==
I deleted the bootleg images that were on the page. The user admitted to me that they were bootleg, being truthful and forthcoming is nice, but I have to delete them. Any images taken from a screener or a bootleg are illegal and thus cannot be on IMFDB. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== WHY ==

why has someone deleted someof the pics.for exmple the beretta 92sb, the glock and the m16a4. someone should delete some M4 pics there is wayto many
:Look at the post right above yours.-protoAuthor 00:27, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

: oh sorry. but with the beretta it showed a perfectly clear pic. you could ID the guneasily. the glock pic was a good pic anyway

== Watermarked pic ==

Putting this picture here until I can find one that doesn't have the watermark on it.

[[Image:THL M4A1 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|James and Sanborn open fire with their M4A1's at a pair of insurgents attempting to hold Eldridge prisoner. They manage to kill the pair, but Eldridge is hit in the femur thereafter.]] --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Rank Issue.

I believe Renner's character wore Sergeant First Class (E-7 - Three stripes up with two rockers below) chevrons. This is a rank that is one grade higher than Staff Sergeant. Also, SSGT is not an abriviation used by the US Army as SSG is used instead.
:SSGT is Marine Corps abbreviation. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 23:28, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

SSGT may be a USMC designation but this movie is about US Army Soldiers, not Marines.

== Glock? ==

Is that a Glock 23 or 19? im so bad with glocks :(

Talk:Resident Evil 5

2010-03-09T11:08:03Z

178.92.190.149: /* My biggest problem with this game */

== Additon Weapons: ==

Though not seen but confirmed: (Asking for confirmation on other weapons.)

Six to Seven pistols can be obtained including a .357 magnum possibly a Colt Python.

Currently there is seven pistols (including magnum type weapons), these include the Beretta 92FS, H&K USP, SIG P226, Beretta M93R, S&W M29, Desert Eagle, S&W M500. Unknown weapons such as the Beretta PX4 and other weapons have not yet been found. [[User:Draco122|Draco122]]

There are several secret weapons that can be obtained as well. According to a recent Gamepro article, these weapons range from new to old tech. It is unknown how many there are.

Also, several shotguns (unknown number) have been confirmed. This includes a single barreled pump action (possibly the one we've seen in pictures.), a semi auto and a double barreled shotgun. It has also been confirmed there will be a three barreled shotgun that can do extreme damage.

There are roughly four shotguns currently, the Ithaca Model 37, Benelli M3 and Striker which is currently named the Jail Breaker, the Hydra shotgun is the fictional shotgun with 3 barrels. [[User:Draco122|Draco122]]

All weapons can be upgraded much like the weapons in Resident Evil 4 in terms of capacity, damage, fire rate and reload rate.

== My biggest problem with this game ==

The intense gunplay is cool and fun, but when you come face to face with enemies with AK-74s and RPGS and turrets, having the ability to walk while shooting will go a long way, but the creators didn't want to do that because it takes away the intense quick aiming you have to do. Bullcrap. They did it because they don't want their game to feel like Metal Gear Solid 4 or Gears of Wars. I wouldn't have made this complaint if all enemies don't shoot back with full auto assault rifles. Bows and arrows and crossbows are ok, but when AKs are shooting at you, I like a better cover system and moving while shooting or aiming so I can peer around corners and take out threats. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 12:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Ditto here, there is nothing more frustraiting to just sit there and try to shoot back when one has trained IRL to shoot while moveing. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]
:I have to agree. While I hugely enjoyed the game, having to freeze while shooting kind of sucked. However, it'd probably best to stay put when blasting away with the Gatling Gun. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] 06:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
::I have to ''disagree'' 100%. Resident Evil is supposed to be a survival horror game, not Metal Gear Solid, Halo, or Gears of War. It's ''not'' supposed to be a shooter. The franchise I loved for so long has begun to die since the day RE4 was released thanks to incorporating too many shooter elements. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 02:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

:look, there's survival horror in the sense that you are having to feel the horror and surviving it. But the gameplay is not realistic. And RE5 is more action than horror. It's saying Alien is horror and Aliens is action horror. RE5 is more action oriented and should have the capabilities of the 3rd person, on the move shooting. Look, if the creators wanted more Survival horror in RE5, they should have made the theme and story less action pack genre and more like the previous games before 4. Give it a more scare aspect. Fighting hordes of enemies isn't horror, it's annoying [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
::::What a pussies

== Weapon Images ==
Can anyone get the Images for the weapons from the weapon upgrade screen that's between the chapters. I play it on the 360 and whatever screencaps I can make would be digital pics of a TV screen. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:Thank's ProtoAuthor for adding the in game weapon Images. I'm going to check my guide and start adding the various in game titles to those images.
::You're welcome. I just found those online and figured the article could use them. Hadn't even read your request, to be honest. -protoAuthor 19:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== SVD Dragunov is not a sniper rifle ==

Why do folks here keep confusing it as such? It is a marksman/designated marksman rifle.
:There isn't much distinction between DMRs and sniper rifles in terms of gameplay. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 02:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's classified as a "sniper rifle" ingame anyway.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 03:21, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

:The SVD has always been referred to as a sniper rifle. A DMR is basically as assault rifle with semi auto only and a specific barrel for better accuracy. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
The russians themselves said it was a DMR, are you discrediting the makers? --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 23:14, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but the U.S. Military and historians for years called it a sniper rifle. It WAS used in that role in Vietnam by NVA Snipers (as well as M91/30s) It CAN be used in such a role, however, in recent times, much more accurate (and larger caliber) weapons have been built. Calling it a sniper rifle is not ridiculous, though one can always make a note if they really want to be ultra specific about it on the various gun and movie pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

==Gold Edition==
there is going to be a new gold edition to Resident Evil 5 and i think there might be some new characters and possibly some new guns

[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/residentevil/images/d/da/Wesker_samurai_edge.jpg Erm...]--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:56, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

The only aspect of the Gold edition I like is the mansion level which is a return back to Resident Evil 1 where you have limited ammo and a more darker aspect. It's more scary than RE5 would be. You can even change the camera to a fixed position like the RE games of old. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

New guns: Barry's Samurai Edge, Barry's Revolver.

:Too bad this isn't for the PC version [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
Barry's revolver only makes an appearance when he does a special move, it isn't an equipable weapon.