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Talk:Heckler & Koch P30

2010-12-02T23:25:11Z

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There's a P30 on the Burn Notice page as well, and, from a recent publicity still, it looks like Weston may be carrying one now. I'll link to the picture on the Burn Notice discussion.

Weston definately has a P30 in the picture

You might want to check guns that have been identified as an HK45 -- the HK P30 is often confused with the HK45.

SnakeDoc

Is this a full size or compact pistol??
:: Well, it is smaller than average, and it has a full sized variant called P30L (longer slide), so yes. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 11:40, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

:: It is roughly the same size as the USP Compact.

ok thanks for that i though that the P30L might of been similar to that of the longer slide glocks (eg. G17L) making the P30 full size. From all the photos and reviews i have seen it didnt look as big as a full size and i started getting confused, so thanks for clearing that up. It is a very nice looking gun.

Talk:Heckler & Koch P30

2010-12-02T11:30:52Z

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Talk:Casino Royale (2006)

2010-11-30T13:27:46Z

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Could someone identify the automatic weapons used in the final shootout in the sinking building.

JNA

Response from Anonymous: Two of Gettler's thugs are using H&K UMP.45s with laser scopes and silencers. They are clearly UMP.45s due to their forward handgrip and straightened clip.

:::UMP40s also have straight mags and you can put a forward handgrip on almost any submachine gun with rails. I'm not saying they're not UMP45s, but if that's all you're basing that on... -Funkychinaman

:Tsk, Tsk, Magazine. A clip loads a magazine. A bolt action rifle like a Mauser 98 has an internal magazine which you load with a clip, or stripper clip in this manner. Now, if you refer to a magazine as a "clip", that would mean you would be loading a clip with a clip. ?? Now you can't load a clip with a clip because then you'd be smacking to en-blocs or stripper clips together like an idiot. And you can't load a magazine with a magazine, that also proves to be a problem. But you can load a magazine with a clip. See the confusion in using improper designation? -GM

::Also, I really get sick of editing pages to replace the word "silencer" with "suppressor". -MT2008

To be fair several suppressor/sliencer manufactuters use the term "silencer" to describe there product, such as YHM, AAC, AWC, Gemtech, KAC and HTG. Also while speakaing with various employees of the said companies at the SHOT Shows, they often use the term "silencer". Gunner313

:I think the point is you can never really fully silence a gun, but you can suppress it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:22, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

::To silence a gun 100% I would think is nearly impossible, but to lower the noise of the shot to below human hearing is probably feasible, but not practical. The "silencer" would be so large that the gun would be extremely barrel heavy, and the bullet would have to be subsonic prior to exiting said silencer. All these limit the gun's effectiveness, and lets face it, the point of a suppressor is to attract less attention to yourself when firing. At the range you'd be limited to, you might as well be holding a sign above your head saying, "I have a silenced gun!" At least that's what I think. Anyone care to comment? -Tal379

I wasn't talking about the definition of "silencer". But on the note of a " silencer". Example; on a two stroke motocross bike the rear portion of the exhuast is called the silencer and the front part the expansion chamber. No the silencer doesn't completey muffle the sound, it just reduces it. Yes it would make sense to only call it a muffler, but many words used to describe a product do not describe what it actually does. One last example off the top of my head refering to what an item does; ram air induction on a production vehicle doesn't ram air into the engine, it simple allows an easier path and an adaquate amount of air to reach the air/fuel mixture area. But it is still called ram air. You can't take the word "silencer" or any other name of a product and expect it to be an accurate representation of what the product does, it is just a name. Gunner313

Gunner. The ram air effect that you says doesn't do anything, on a 600cc motorcycle the ram air effect at speed can increase the engines power by as much as 8-10%, compared to what it has when stationary. So it does RAM air into the air box.
How do you think the Ram Jet engine on the SR-71 Blackhawk works? Rob the Fiend

What does bond do when he's putting away his P99? it seems like he decocks just before he puts it aways yet this gun is a DAO and lacks a decocker from what i can see. what is he doing exactly?
--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:39, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

@FIVETWOSEVEN: you´re talking about the Prague scene? well he is just decocking it, they´re several variants of the P99 and Bond is using the P99 AS (Anti-stress version) which has a decocker on the slide...

:Bond is not using the P99 AS in this movie; he's using the first-generation (1990s) production model, the oldest version. He isn't actually decocking it; the foley editor just inserts the sound of the gun being decocked. Sound editors tend to be ignorant about how guns work, which is why you often "hear" actors cocking non-existent "hammers" on Glocks and other such pistols in movies whenever they're drawn. This is the same case. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

:That´s right, he is using the first generation P99, and Walther changed the name of the current production P99 to P99 AS (that´s why I used the term "Anti-Stress"). But the technics (single/double action trigger) are the same on both weapons, and as a owner of a first generation P99 I can say that there is a decocker on the frame. And Bond is obviously using it as he puts his thumb exactly on the position of the decocking button and presses it down, which makes sense to carry his gun safe after using it. If you watch the scene in slow-motion, you´ll recognize it! -[[User:REAPER|REAPER]] 04 February 2010

A P99 from the movie was photographed and uploaded here. If you look at the left side view, just in front of the rear sights, you can see the decocker button. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 23:37, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

the unknown pistol looks like a H&K USP or Mk23 to me

'''Unknown Pistol'''

I'm pretty sure the unknown pistol used by Mr White is a suppressed Sig Sauer P226

OK:
# Sign your posts (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>)
# The gun looks like it has a rounded trigger guard, which rules out the SIG and the HKs. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 12:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

OK:
so what about a S&W Sigma as seen earlier in the movie.. that has a rounded trigger guard

Talk:Walther P99

2010-11-30T09:56:46Z

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==Additional Variants==

[[Image:DSCN0156-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Two-Tone Walther P99 - 9x19mm fitted with Kemmer Tech BA-5 laser sight as used by [[Kate Beckinsale]]'s character Selene in the film ''[[Underworld]]''.]]
[[Image:080702-walther16.jpg|none|thumb|400px|Walther P99 - 9x19mm used by [[Daniel Craig]] in [[Casino Royale (2006)|Casino Royale]].]]
[[Image:080702-walther15.jpg|none|thumb|400px|Walther P99 with a suppressor - 9x19mm]]

== Other ==
It's a pretty decent gun. Nice to hold, cool looking, and accurate. It's a bit heavy for a gun of it's size. I'd recomend this for your handgun collection. Here is a list of all semi-auto handguns I'd recomend.

* Glock 17,18
* Heckler & Koch USP, USP Expert
* Heckler & Koch VP70
* FN FiveseveN
* Springfield Armory XD
* Walther P99
* Kimber Desert Warrior
* SIG-Sauer P226
* Browning Hi-Power
* Smith & Wesson 4506
^
All of these are must haves

Who wrote this? VP70, FiveseveN and Glock 18 are military issue only. The full auto and brust pistols are illegal for the commercial market and the FiveseveN and VP70 are no longer in production. I think some little COD fan is trying to make smart with the people who actually know their shit. The P99 weighs just over 600 grams making itabiut as heavy as a glock and lighter in weight than a 92F, M1911 and most other non polymer bodied pistols on the market. Fucking Noob! --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:31, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
::You're wrong about the VP70. It's not military issue only. I have one (and owned it since the early 1980s) I have everything on that list except the Glock 18, the USP Expert and the 4506. Personally I don't see the allure of having everything, except it's fun to mess around when you're bored. I'd still take the Glock into a gun fight before all others, unless there are specific requirements that other models will have and advantage with. Also, the VP70 is the LOWEST ranked gun on that list. I DON'T recommend it. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:46, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:Actually I'm pretty sure the FiveseveN is still being manufactured and can be purchased although it is rather expensive not to mention 5.7mm ammo is also expensive as hell and is available to civilians. I don't know of any military that uses the Glock 18. --[[Special:Contributions/129.89.187.78|129.89.187.78]] 03:09, 14 March 2010 (UTC) (ThePotShot)

Who pissed in your goddam cornflakes this morning??? Give the kid a break, he's having a little fun. So shut the fuck up AND stay quiet unless you have something constructive to say, got it?[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]

== James Bond ==

Since James Bond has went back to using his old Walther PPk in Quantum of Solace, do you think he should have sticked to his old gun that whole time or use the Walther P99??? (Please note that this is just a matter of opinions.)
I think the P99 is something nice to be changed, 7 rounds of .32 .vs 15 of 9mm, you do the math. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 03:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:I never thought this switch to the P99 made sense, other than some marketing for Walther. He's a secret agent, it'd make sense for him to carry a weapon designed to be concealable. I can understand if he went for something bigger on some missions, like the dam mission at the beginning of Goldeneye, but overall I'm glad he's back with the PPK. If the producers want to appease Walther, I'd be okay with him switching over to a PPS or something. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 06:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Funkychinaman that Bond should carry the Walter PPK every where because is concealable. on mission he carry's a wonder 9 handgun, and his PPK as aback up handgun.

I'd like to see him equipped with both, PPK for concealed carry and P99 for when he needs extra firepower and concealing his weapon isn't an issue. I don't really like the trigger guards on the post-2004 models though.

Yeah same here.. i don't like the new ( post 2004 )trigger guard. They should of released the newer models with the same trigger guard as the Generation 1. It changed the look of the P99 too much.

I believe it was in the novel "Doctor No" where he switched over to the PPK, he was also issued a customized S&W .38. The PPK was for discreet concealed carry, and the S&W was for more serious,heavy work. In the movie "Goldfinger", on the raid on Goldfinger's factory, Bond used a Walther P38. David.

'':The only thing about the PPK is that it's strongest available caliber is .380 ACP, and it only has a 7-round capacity. Just going off of the kind of trouble that Bond usually gets into, that's not a gun I'd feel comfortable with. The PPS in 9mm or .40 would make more sense, and indeed, I found myself watching Quantum of Solace initially wondering why he'd regressed back to the PPK. As far as the P99's concealibility (sp?), compared to some other full-size guns, it's quite concealable, given the amount of firepower it can hold. For something requiring deep concealment, though, use a PPS.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 03:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

==Decocker==
Some versions of the P99 are DA/SA, so do they have a decocker or does the weapon have to be dry-fired to return to DA trigger. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

Talk:Casino Royale (2006)

2010-11-30T01:21:28Z

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